Bussin' With The Boys - Drew Brees On Journey From Purdue To Saints + Zack Baun On Eagles Super Bowl & Skattebo | Bussin'

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

Recorded: October 20th, 2025 Will Compton and Taylor Lewan are back with another episode of Bussin' With The Boys. Will kicks things off by looking back on his wild weekend with the family. The boys then jump into some Shoutout No Free Shoutout fan submitted #TierTalk and break down the latest episode of ‘Chad Powers’ starring Glen Powell. Then the legend himself, Drew Brees, hops on The Bus to talk about his journey from being overlooked in high school to becoming one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. He reflects on his college days at Purdue, his shoulder injury with the Los Angeles Chargers, and how everything changed when he landed on the New Orleans Saints. Drew also opens up about coaching his kids, what it’s like watching today’s young NFL quarterbacks start right away, and shares stories about working with Sean Payton, and some of the best offensive weapons he’s ever played with. Later, Zach Baun joins the show to talk about life in Philly, what it’s like facing the New York Giants twice in three weeks, and the energy inside the Philadelphia Eagles’ building. He opens up about his mindset during a contract year, gives his thoughts on Wisconsin football, and reveals a few locker room gems from RuneScape sessions to the legend of Big Dom. It’s one of the most packed Bussin’ episodes yet with legends, laughs, and plenty of ball talk. Tune in, grab a Bud Light, and ride with The Boys. Big Hugs & Tiny Kisses TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro1:56 Will’s Time With The Saints 5:32 Weekend Recap19:35 Shoutout No Free Shoutout29:10 #TierTalk38:16 CHAD POWERS42:07 Fresh Set Of Downs50:13 Pet Peeve53:09 DREW BREES INTERVIEW STARTS53:41 Being Will’s Teammate54:08 Having No Offers Out Of High School1:02:51 Lessons Learned At Purdue1:10:41 Hurting His Shoulder With The Chargers1:19:40 Getting To New Orleans1:25:14 Coaching His Kids1:28:04 What Teams Were Interested Other Than New Orleans1:29:16 His Thoughts On Starting QBs Right Away1:35:37 Bo Nix Sean Payton Relationship1:37:46 Thoughts On The Saints This Season1:39:34 How Is He Keeping Care Of His Body Now?1:42:58 Best Offensive Weapon He’s Played With1:49:15 Bud Light Question1:51:48 The School Of Sean Payton2:00:11 ZACH BAUN INTERVIEW STARTS2:00:54 Zach Baun v Cam Skattebo2:01:51 Energy In Eagles Building2:03:25 Playing The Giants Twice In Three Weeks2:05:17 Mindset Last Year On A 1 Year Deal2:08:11 Thoughts On Wisconsin Right Now2:10:14 Exciting Whites2:13:09 RuneScape Fanatic2:15:24 Vic Fangio2:16:00 Jalen Carter Is Scary Dude2:18:21 The Legend Of Big Dom2:19:25 Bud Light QuestionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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with Drew, with Drew Breeze. Well, you rock for a good, we had a strong 10 days, man. Yeah, there's a couple times after practice. I go, I'm trying to make some conversation with him. He's taking some business calls. I'll catch you later. Yeah.

We'll talk shop later. But the effort was put in there. Yeah, yeah, effort was put in there. Quality of quality. Yeah, we enjoyed a couple hot tub moments. I had one with him and Tays. I don't think, oh, Drew, and Taysam Hill.

You're in there. Got a couple laughs. One of the days they were talking about, or we were talking about how Taysam Hill could squat like over 600 pounds, which is insane. I haven't got to see it because we were in training camp. We're grinding. Boys are grinding. Yeah, this is back into training camp too.

But everybody was talking about how Tassam Hill could squat over 600 pounds, and I'm sitting there. Like, that is insane for him. All the positions he plays, J.P. said it. maybe the greatest athlete, maybe the greatest football player, pure football player of all time. But the squad over 600 pounds is ridiculous. Disgusting. Yeah.

And this is the origin story. These 10 days is when you're back started, correct? No, my back started. Raiders. Raiders. That was later that year. Okay. So you're sitting there at the time thinking, man, I should put some weight on my back too.

Take some hell. If you can do 600, I can at least do 300. Yeah, I could get 300 at that time. Easy. Maybe four. Yeah, I could get four. If you were going and he did a full warm-up, core engaged, the whole thing Dobson would do with the legs,

how much do you think you could squat today? Right now? Today. Oh, I wouldn't. No, okay. Hypothetical, you have to get me. I wouldn't, like I couldn't. Yeah, because your back would be fucked up the next day.

I'm saying, like, totally warmed up, hypothetical. What can your legs handle today? 1.35. Once? 10 times? Yeah, bro. Like, my back hurts when there's a bar on my back. Like, I, it doesn't matter how warmed up I get.

Right. There is pain in my low back when there's a bar of my shoulders. Okay, I'm sorry for asking the question. You kept trying to reward it. Like, I'm just super worried up. Yeah, I'm just saying, maybe I'm a hypothetical different world type of thing. It hurts. It hurts.

I'm a goblet squatter. I hold a dumbbell in front of my chest. Hell yeah. About 70 pounds. Oh, so you big dog stuff. Yeah. Some would, yeah. Some could say big dog.

Some could say like, man, he's really fell off. Because at Nebraska, I was over 500. I was an over 500 guy. Now we are shooting the Bus with the Boys episode before their weekend recap, so we're not really into the whole Nebraska thing. We haven't got your thoughts on it. Should we wait?

No, it's just... The weekend recap, we're going to wait for the weekend. People out here that are listening right now, obviously my weekend kicked off with the Nebraska L on Friday night. You can check all that stuff out. We covered it on the football recap show that came out yesterday.

We talked all things football on the recap show that drops on Mondays. Here, we're here for some more fun, get some good interviews, spooky stuff, catch up in the old Chad Powers, maybe some shoutout, no free shout out, some pet peeves. People's been begging for those segments to come back, the tear talk we have going on. But yeah, how was, let's start off, let's go ahead and start.

You want to start with my weekend, your weekend? Go ahead. You're already talking? Listen, we all saw what happened Friday night. We talked about that yesterday. And we're going to talk about it again. And here we go again. We ain't going to talk about it.

We're all eyes on Northwestern. And we'll say this too could be a positive. long term for Nebraska. Yeah. Right? I'm thinking about Northwestern. Got you. So for us on this bus,

that's not thinking about Northwestern, could be a positive. But tell me about the weekend, dude, Vandy Game. It was a great weekend. Weirdly, weird, fun, great, all mixed together. Saturday we went to, myself, Charo and Rue.

We went to the Vandy game. We went to the Fall Don't Lie tour with Josh Pate. They were out there at Vanderbilt for Vandy LSU. And I told you guys, I said this yesterday, but I've been telling everybody that LSU was a bunch of frauds. And we got to see it in person. We got to see it in real time.

Cade McConnell, that clip of Cade McConnell going around where he bodybags a couple guys. But we had a lot of fun. Got to meet Josh Pate's wife, Savannah, just a wonderful person. Had a lot of fun. Roo, she's still out on mascots. Doesn't fuck with him. The tiger tried coming up and messing with her. I'm like, hey, there's her favorite little stuffed animals.

A tigie. She calls him TIGY. And I'm like, hey, Tiger, there's Tykees big brother right there. Like he wants a high five and stuff like that. And Rood just stone face like just like, you know, slowly looks over at me like that. What am I supposed to do here? I'm like, hey, she ain't about it. She ain't about the.

Yeah. She's not about the mascot situation. Yeah. Yeah. You want to give my high five? You know how you're like demonstrating it in front of her. Like, hey, he's good people. She's not having it.

Wasn't about it. And that is 100% my kid's fault. Your child has that fear. Yeah. Yeah. The mass. She's scared of mass. She's scared of mascots.

Like anything that's, a little too bigger demonstrative, she's not about it. The Michael Myers is really what tipped her over sideways on finding that mask back in the closet

and then yeah, wind just popping up in front of her face with the mask. With the, how to train your dragon mask just gets in her face and starts pushing it around.

It was over. It was over from that moment. And yeah, Will and I are sitting them bean bags. I'm just like, God, I feel guilty.

My child is a wound your child. There ain't nothing you can do about that one. Tough, tough, tough. It's just kids being kids. Right. when's done it to her sister she kind of just takes it in

we're all about the spookiness in this household but go ahead we had a great day at vanderbilt and shout out the staff at vanderbilt they did a great job hosting us we had awesome seats we had some pregame field passes Sunday Bill Compton is now married my dad got married so we made a trip out there Saturday night we had a stream this was on Sunday Saturday night we had a stream Tennessee Alabama I'm sure we'll get into that once we get the boys

involved but Sunday flew out oh man got married so got to make you know got to go out there old Farmington Bontare Missouri see some friendly faces some some some familiar faces and then we flew back Rube puked on the plane that was abysmal I'm talking Team America Exorcism style oh no shit I almost started puking it smelled yeah it was she she like she was like lean back and then she puked on herself and we're like Ruper it's okay and then she just starts puking in the middle and it's everywhere yeah you know Charles trying to say it's all right sweetheart i'm going oh my god

this is couples retreat when Vince Vaughn's with this kid and he poops in the toilet and he goes we don't got to say nothing to the flight attendant we know this was a bad deal yeah this one smells everywhere it's brutal fly back that day and then take the wife we go to a Dermott

Kennedy concert any Dermott Kennedy fans on this bus I know like I know of him great artist oh hang on I'm pretty sure one of the first times we met you were like of Corey, you were trying to clown on me and you were playing your music, he were like, I bet this is the type of shit you like.

And you turned on Dermott Kennedy. He stays on the playlist. He's good. Charles obsessed with Dermott Kennedy. I've always liked Dermott and getting to watch him in person. It was all time. Very powerful, very powerful voice.

At the Ryman. He started to do some, you know, where they'll like take the mic away and he's just singing to the crowd. Like both of the artists, the guy who covered for him halfway, or the guy who went out who opened for him, not covered for him, open for him. Both of them did like the acoustic version where they're singing to the crowd, very intimate.

It was awesome. He's awesome. Dermott Kennedy was awesome. And so, yeah, very jam-packed weekend, very fun weekend. All in all, 4.5. Nice. Yeah. All right.

Not bad. Not bad. My weekend, phenomenal. Obviously, we do the stream Thursday night, wake up real early. last year before the northwestern game i took win to a mission game her first mission game we did the whole thing like it's a it's a true brainwashing experience when you do with your children because it's like you land there's no nose on the weekend it's you want candy go ahead yes we go to benny's benny's there he's like albanian or something but he's all about letting the kids do he's like got the kids in the

back room like making their own pancakes making their own hot chocolate he's just bringing out food over and over again, he's bringing out like shots of like scotch that he's got in the back. It's like, this is a diner, Denny. Like, Benny, what are we doing? So the same thing takes place this weekend. Willow is juiced up. Like five, six days before, I'm showing her all the things we're going to do. I'm pulling up photos of the MDN.

I'm pulling up photos of the Diag, all that like the central campus area. And she's like, can't sleep two nights before. Can't sleep the night before. We get on the plane. She's fired up just me and her. And we land, Dave is essentially our chauffeur, the entire weekend. We go in the first place we go to is Benny's. Get right there. You guys all been there. We go around the corner. Great spot. Shout out, Benny. Sitting that back booth.

Benny's got Willow making her own hot chocolate. He brings out pancakes, brings out hot dogs, brings out this little cheese plate that he sets on fire in front of Willow like it's a five-star Michelin, Michelin Star restaurant. And it was awesome. Willis stuff's her face. Then we go to the M-Dend. And Willow was, when I'm looking at, showing her the M-Den photos earlier in the week, she sees a cheerleading outfit and she is gassed up on the cheerleading outfit she like she wants it she needs it as bad as she wants to breathe so we get there they don't have her size and it's like we've gotten the stuffed animals we got mama mug we got cissy a mug we got key chains we got the whole thing like everything's michigan wolverine but if we don't get this fucking chewling outfit

essentially this weekend is ruined we go in the back some guy helps us out we we sift through we find the seven and eight we get this onesie dress thing that is that is that is that is like the cheerleading outfit, she is over the moon. Immediately, as soon as we buy it, can I wear it? Can I wear it? It's like, let's just wait until tomorrow. Because it was kind of chilly, and I'm thinking, I don't think. I don't think Willow is going to be able to wear this during the game and not be freezing. Turns out of a 75 degrees. It was absolutely beautiful. After that, Pat Collins, a friend of us, we go to his house, do s'mores. We do a little bonfire. We got spooky stuff everywhere. We got seasonal beverages.

Very nice, intimate, like spooky. His wife, both kids. Willow, it was awesome, bags of candy. And then the next day, get the outfit on. I'm looking at the weather, it's like, all. Willow does not care about watching the football game at all. Could not care less. We're on the sideline. She's asked me where the cheerleaders.

Like when are the cheerleaders going to be here? Got to go get the flake. Yeah, and so we got a bunch of photos. First cheerleaders pop up. I'm like, guys, can you please take a photo with my daughter that give her the pom-poms? They're very sweet to her. Willow is grinning ear to ear on it. And as we're going around to get our seats, some staffer

because Willow's under 18, obviously, like, hey, she can't be down here if she's under 18. So you need to go your seats. While we're going there, staffers see some more cheerleaders, Willows, like, we're not going anywhere to get photos with these guys as well. Get the photo done. Get up in the stands. We end up sitting in, like, Jen Pop area, which is the view is nice because we're like 25 rows back.

So I can see the whole field. I can see what kind of personnel we're in. I'm, like, dialed in. Problem is, a lot of people want to get photos, want to talk about anything other than, you than Michigan football. Really? That's going on. Anything else.

With Willow there? With Willow there? They're trying to get photos. I'm like, well, you'll stand by grandpa for a second. Smile. People would like, you know what I mean? Like kind of see,

kind of back, hey, just quick photo. I agree. I agree with your daughter. 80% of the people were very aware of Willow. Hey, I know you're with your family. You mind if I get a quick photo. And I get the quick photo. They're like, so man, man, ESPN, huh?

Yeah, man, it's sick. We have a lot of fun. And we go to the experts. Oh, how is Will doing? Is he dead? It's like, yeah, I think he's going to be right. I texted him last night. He didn't text me back, but I know that's he sad right now, you know?

So like those are the conversations taking place. Then it's like I'm sitting in these stands and I'm trying to watch a football game. Will it wants a pretzel. Great, we'll get a pretzel. Will it wants popcorn. Grandpa will take you to get some popcorn. Like you guys will dial it in. Finally, I sit there and I think my phone, I'm like,

you want to place some, you want to look at Daddy's photos on his camera? And I had to give her, I had to put the phone on her so I could watch the game. I'm looking back at this older couple. I'm like, this is great parenting. am I right? They're like any way to get it done. And we watched the game the first half. I mean, we broke it all down in the weekend recap.

But overall, 4.5, man. Sunday. 4.5. Yeah, Sunday I get home. We get home Saturday night. Do we do this stream? Sunday, Tailen has for Nature and Nurture. She has like this farmer's market and she takes the kids,

does like, you know, child labor laws. We probably get CNS called on us. She has them dishing out seeds to everybody. And the kids sold like $200 in seeds. So, yeah, yeah. They got asked. it you're good. Taylorin texted me.

She's like, I just told the kids to take these seeds and ask people to buy them. And it worked. Sold out, sold out of the seeds. So shout out Talon. And her business savvy. Yeah, we're not really selling any seeds. You know what? We got to activate the kiddos.

Right. Activated. Get out there. Start it going, go as adults to buy them. They won't say no to you. Dude, when I was eight, my mom used to work at this place called Harold's in Cave Creek. And she wanted to teach me the value of a dollar. So I busboyed with her for a day.

Made like $200 in that day. Just sat there and talked to the. older people. So in the middle winter, so all the snowbirds were there, didn't understand the value. After that, I was like, money's easy.

Money's a joke, dude, this is the easiest thing in the world to get. Eight years old, my mom's like, god damn it. But yeah, man, awesome weekend.

Next weekend, first time ever, kids are going to Disney World. That'll be fun. Going at Disney World next Friday. Spooky season. Yeah, we're doing the same thing. We got the tour guide for the,

like, at the Pro Bowl, where it's like, they kind of, you get to hop, there's like the fast pass above the fast pass, that's above the fast, past thing and then we got Mickey Mouse's not so spooky Halloween kids are I'm so excited I might be

more excited than them they don't understand what they're about to see it's gonna be awesome so action pack spooked over core memory weekend loading yes absolutely two for Willow in a row we're getting on the plane to go back she's like when can we come back to Michigan and then she kept saying this bullshit to me honest she's like it's a miracle Michigan won what do you mean she's like I just can't believe we won I'm like All right, Willow. But we get home and win one to rewatch the game to highlight so we put it up on the YouTube TV. Like kids are dialed right now.

That's awesome. Yeah, we're definitely brainwashing the shit out of them right now. Yeah, it's going exactly how you want, Sharon. It's going exactly how we want. So yeah, I might have to make, I just, until the opportunity comes, like Rood now has been two years in a row to Vandy games, Vandy Dubs. Wait, was it a dove last year against Texas? Close loss. Close loss, that's right.

Competitive ball games in Vandy. Yeah. Yeah. Diego Pavia, her favorite player? Cade McConnell? Maybe, yeah, Cade McConnell for sure. Kate, I hated, you know, I know he listens to all of our stuff,

so I know he's listening right now. But we were bummed. We didn't get a flick. I was in on the end zone side, but it was LSU. We kind of got there 15 minutes before the game. Cade was hit me up after. He's like, bro, I literally, he's like, I looked everywhere, and I couldn't find you.

And I kind of told him, he said, they told me you were going to be on the newly renovated in. I was like, no, I was on the OG end. He's like, I probably looked like, an insane person going around. He's like, after we won the game where we scored a touchdown, he's like, I'm going up and looking around

everywhere to see if we can, I can find you because I knew you were bringing the fam. Damn. I know. I said, don't worry. We'll come to another game, bro. We got to his face. Well, about what?

Going to another game. We could probably make another game. They got a couple, they got some more. They got game day. This weekend, one of my best friends, Brad LeBron. You guys know the biscuit. He's getting married. Are you, Brad?

Yeah, shout out, Brad, but also, but also, yeah, football season wedding, and it's on Sunday, and it's in New York. What? Yes, bro. Listen, it's his day. They should be selfish, but what a selfish brick move, dude. I feel like you've been screwed on a lot of Sunday weddings.

Yes, bro. I mean, this will be two in a row. I kind of tell my old man, like, hey, listen, I get it, but you, I ain't want to come to this. On a Sunday? Yeah, on a Sunday. I'm missing some football. right now, dude. I know. Everyone always talks

about the weather. It's like spring has the same thing. They got the same weather. Fall is super nice. It's just and the Missouri one didn't bother me as much because it's close. But New York when you're, you know, you're from Missouri, I guess she's out from the northeast, but

Jesus, why are we doing it out in New York? And they got engaged and stuff not too long ago. Like they put it together fast. Hey, it's us to Jonas brothers and guess what? We have some big news. news news. We created our own podcast called

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Pretty incredible. Love Brad. Love the biscuit. He shot me a text with love if you came, blah, blah, blah. I'm not going to be able to make it. Disney World. Disney World. Disney World.

Will and I sat in the plane and I was like, I kind of feel bad. I'm not going to make it. He said, you ain't got to go. And he's like pissed off about it. You ain't got to go. That's like one of my best friends. I have to go. Selfish of Brad.

Well, it was more, yeah, I did say that. But I'm also thinking like, yeah, in your situation, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I do love Brad, though. And I know that, like, I know Brad's personality. and so like I just would I know that the next time I see Brad he's going to say something the next time and the next time and the next time it'll follow me for a few years yeah 100 and I just think like yeah I'm gonna have to deal with those bullets because my family and I were gonna go to Disney World yeah great guy I'll get him again I probably won't get him a gift but I'll text him hey congratulations on your on your marriage that's amazing should we get into a tear talk do we want shoutouts pet peeves where we want to go let's bring back shout out real quick shout out no free shout out yeah I uh I uh Do you mind? Go ahead. Shout out no free shoutout, pilot Bob.

Shout out no free shout out pilots that you think no matter what happens, I'm safe. The pilot we had from BNA to Tito Borough, thank you, thank you Fly House and JJ at Flyhouse. This guy gets on, he's probably what, in the 70s? Yeah. He's got over 30,000 hours of flying. I think he was in Vietnam. Two tours in Vietnam, four tours in Afghanistan. Boom.

and he's just generational flight fan talks to us he's one of those calm stoic like you know older gentlemen that just like make you feel safe no matter what we get done we fly in a tito bro he goes a little windy out there

but now the the risky part happens you guys have to drive like he just knows like flying he is it does not matter what happens on that airplane he's gonna take care of business when we get back dude

he's like hey glad to have you guys back he starts showing me his mother was a World War II pilot who was one of the only women World War II pilots who would take bombs and try to take out submarines and fly like really low. She's like this is the only woman pilot to do this

like Medal of Honor type stuff. Like it was, this is as we're getting on the flight to come back to Nashville. And so you sit there and I always usually fall asleep on flights anyway. But there's always a PC that's like, what if? And then I'm not going to go there and you go to sleep. This was one of those things where I took the blanket,

put it over my head and knocked out for pretty much the entire flight. You said he has 30,000. hours. He said, yeah, because I remember saying, you know, you're an outlier three times over. And he's like, yeah. That's over three years of life of. Yeah.

That's just he gets after in the air. He loves being in the air. You could tell what we're on ground. It's like you see someone with their sea legs. He wasn't really, he doesn't, he's got air legs. He spent three, he's like spent three years of his life in air, which is. Isn't that crazy? Just crazy.

Shout out no free shout out gushers, man. Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? Hell yeah. Got my hands on some red gushers yesterday. I kind of saw them. I kind of saw them. I gave Rua pack.

That's actually, I think that's probably why she ended up throwing up. But I was like, hey, Roo, this is one of dad-d-ass favorite snacks. Back in the day, we got you some gushers.

Go ahead and try you out some of those. So shout-out, uh, shout-out gushers. Shout-out, no free shout-out. Would you hit your hands on some gushers at this wedding? Were they, no,

just on the plane. They had snacks on the plane. And they had some gushers? Yeah. What a plane? Hey, shout out them gushers. Shout out. Fly house.

You food fly house? Yeah. God. Damn, that's beautiful. The only way to make it, like, we had the stream on Saturday night. We were having, we don't have child care. So we had to take the kids with us. If you're flying in from Nashville to St. Louis, it was going to be, that's an hour away

from where the wedding would be. The flights didn't work on flying out the morning of without like a, without like a, without like connecting flight. Yeah. And it's like, you got to take both kids with you. Right. For,

and we needed to get back for the Dermott Kennedy concert that we had booked forever. Trying to go to London in the summer. We just couldn't make it happen. She's actually going to London this week with Rue on a mother-daughter trip. They're going for like five days in London.

They leave. We're recording on Monday. They leave tonight. But we were going to go to London and see Dermott Kennedy in London. And since we couldn't make that work, I'm looking on my phone to see if he comes through Nashville at all. Just so happens he was coming to the Ryman. You know,

at that point, the summer he was coming to rhyming in October. I got those tickets. Wedding thing happened. Didn't want to break my wife's heart by being like, we can't go to Dermott Kennedy because I was like, we will go to Dermott Kennedy if we don't go to London because I was like trying not to go to London for 72 hours.

I'm like, sweet I listen. That is crazy to go somewhere for 72 hours. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I know it would be fun. I'm just the two of us, yada yada,

but like, come on. We can, we can do something closer so that way we get more time at said place. Right. Then spending half the time in the air. That's 16 hours in the air. So then when I was in that kind of pickle,

just had to make it happen fly out. I hit up clump. I was like, can you see what? Can I get a couple quotes for like just a day trip in and out? Because, you know, I'm going to the wedding. I'm pumped for my dad.

But there's, you know, Willie Boy's gone through his own journey with this process and everything else. I want to get back so I can still go to the concert. Couldn't leave that night of because we had the stream, Tennessee, Alabama. So kind of caught in a pickle, problem solved. Shout out gushers. Shout out gushers.

Shout out. The shot out fly house. That is, how nice? It was shaky because it was very windy yesterday. We were on a turboprop. Is that what it's called a turbo prop? Oh, you were to beachcraft. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it was shaky. It was dicey. Buddy, when I... Charles was down, going down like a WebMD wormhole. Like, she was looking up these pilots, the experience. I'm like, sweet. WebMD pilots. It's crazy.

What kind of disease do these pilots have? Oh, my God. But just going down that. GBT, I'm with you. Going down that snake hole of like, what's the risk and the 30 mile an hour winds because there were Gus yesterday. It was raining and Gus were happening in Nashville. A lot of wind and Gus in Missouri where we were going.

She's like, do you feel confident? I was like, yeah, I feel confident. We took a small little plane from here to South Bend, Notre Dame. Snow and everything else. Dude, that's, I might have been the same time of year when I came to see you. in Missouri a few years back. And I was on that flight. Because that little airport, you can't, you have to take a small plane to land in the airport.

You have to take a small plane. And the dude on the way back, I'm getting thrown over here. But I'm the only guy on the plane. I'm like, this is exactly when people die. Yeah. This is 100% when people go down. No bags. Just like, I got to get back to Nashville because of I'm still playing football at the time.

And the dude looks back and gives me the thumbs up. I'm like, I guess we're straight. And you look out the window and it is moving. Like, as we're landing in Missouri, like, Like it's moving and going a little sideways where I'm staying poised. But internally, I'm like, all right. Because Charles over there breathing, like all this stuff. She's like, we're taking our entire family.

And we're going to be on a small plane. She's getting super nervous. I'm like, we got only a couple options, sweetheart. Like we're either on the plane and we all go. You can stay home. I truly, it doesn't bother me. And I can just go by myself. I know you're probably thinking in your head, well, what if you die?

And then we're all. because I'm thinking we'll all go down as a family at least we all go down as a family. I was going to say that might be kind of a win, right? Or, these kids are kind of young that's really sad but like both parents? Yeah, yeah. Why don't we all just take the drink together,

you know, drink the coolie together and just fucking get out of here, you know? Or we cancel it and we got to spend, you know, 10, 12 hours in a car and we're going to have to drive to the wedding and we're missing Dermott Kennedy on the way home. And that was the deciding factor for Charles. I didn't have to go.

I was willing to risk death. I didn't have to go there. I didn't have to lay out those options. Fortunately, it's like we got connected. I'm breaking stuff down. I'm like, hey, I'm telling you, we're going to be all right. But even right when we took off from Nashville, because it was raining, it was starting to rain pretty good and the wind was going. Right when we took off and the wheels got like right off the ground.

That spot where it was just about to lift, you like felt the jerk sideways. Oh, no. And Charles got Scotty attached to her and she had her eyes were just closed and she's just breathing. Roos going, wee! It's so funny. Sit back there. These kids had no idea. When Willow and I took off, we flew Delta.

When we took off to go to Detroit, I had the thing down. Everybody had their like shades down or whatever, the window shades. And we're taking off. And Will's like, are we going to leave yet? I'm like, we're like 30 minutes into the fly. Honey, we're in there. She goes, right back on the iPad. I was like, all right.

Hell yeah. Does Charles get scared flying? No. She just gets, it's the whole family dynamic thing. Yeah. She'll get in her head about the family and then the small plane. And then she sees the two years. She's like, they've only been, you know, this pilot graduated in 2023.

This one graduated in 2021. This is our very first flight. They sent all the stuff. Will text me in the morning and I just start feeling like shit instantly. Like my morning was ruined because I'm worried for him knowing that they're worried because it's a smaller plane. And then the guy texted, he's like, it might be a little bumpy when they take off. All I'm thinking is your wife sitting there, close and eyes. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's the, it's like their first flight. and it's like, you know, on the small plane and everything else. I'm like, we're going to, it's going to be easy. And we're fucking, it's like Jurassic Park in the air. And when you get done that, it feels kind of dope, huh? Oh, absolutely. There's like a piece of you that's like kind of to survive something crazy just now.

It is wild. You're going to fly house to Brad's wedding? No, no. We're going, we fly out the early flight on Saturday morning. Oh, nice. So you can get a full 24 hours there? Yeah. We can spend some time there.

That'd be nice. And it's just you and Charles going? Yeah. So Charles going today, we're filming on one day. She's flying out to London. Spending five days there. So she gets back Friday. Friday.

And then she's going to get on a plane Saturday. Yep. That's rock star shit. Yeah. That is rock star shit. And a positive, too, about it being in the spot because I know I bitched a lot about this wedding in New York and everything else. It is at a Sleepy Hollow. Sleepy Hollow, I said Salem.

Dude, that does gas me up for you. You've got to do something fun and spooky. I know. I mean, you just got to walk around. Yeah. Yeah. Sleepy Hollow where Sleepy Hollow is. It's horseman.

That's great. You got to send me some photos. I got you. Yeah, I got you. Just that. Just some spooked over stuff. Let's get some tear talk, dude. This one's from Tom at Tom Rynette.

Hashtray Tear talk. If the states of Michigan and Nebraska went to war with each other, who would win and why? If the states of Michigan, Nebraska went to war. Yeah. I don't know. What's the pop there? I would think I would lean heavy in Nebraska. Just the blue collar, the gourier.

and spit the farmers out there. I'm going to go easy dub Michigan. Detroit. Yeah. Detroit, Flint. Like, and you talk about blue collar cats,

like this go up to the UP. Like, those people are survivors up there. Like, that's basically Canada. You're winning the arms race. Yeah, yeah,

we're winning the arms race. We got the outgun and outman. Yeah, there's some pockets now in Omaha. Gotta watch out. But like, and also, is this a neutral site?

Like, everyone just meets up in like Minnesota? And we go toes? Or do we have to like go to Nebraska? Is it an away game, an away war? That's a good one. Because if that's the case too, it's like... Yeah, you bring up those cities.

Like we're just, we're insanely outnumbered. Insanely. He was like to look at the population. I'm thinking, you're fucking dead. Detroit. Done. And also like, we go to Nebraska, it might have to be like revolutionary war style

where it's like everyone, you're going to see each other 15 miles away. We might as well just line them up, get some muskets in our hand and get a little drummer boy and get going after it. Some guerrilla tactics. going on in Nebraska. You come to the Nebraska. Nebraska is going to have to do some trench

warfare. Yeah, yeah. Tranch warfare. To win a different way. Okay. Let's get to and. Wait, so you're thinking Nebraska still? No, I, Michigan. Okay, okay, okay. Andrew at A underscore Hilliard 11. I want to hear the boys' thoughts

on things you kind of like about a sick day staying home from school, watching the prices right, or things of that nature. Let's have a hell of a Monday, boys. hashtag tear talk hashtag tear talk yeah I was never allowed to stay home from school I'd be going to school

with diarrhea if I had strep throat I'm at school I was just I was a kid getting every other kid sick yeah I wasn't much yeah can I feel that too bro my mom wouldn't anytime I go and then I'd be sick and I go to the nurse or whatever and she's like gotta call your mom my mom comes in she's almost pissed off at me oh yeah

because she's like you just worked the system to go home and I'm thinking I feel sick and she's like you you're going to school or if it's bad and they gotta take me because I have a fever. My mom would be tight going home. You ain't playing your game boy. Yeah.

I'd be trying to, I got to go take a shit. I'm sitting on the toilet trying to play the game boy. Trying to play some Pokemon. Got to catch them all. Oh, got to catch them all. My mom and dad would be like pissed if I, like,

you're waiting until this weekend to go to the doctor. Dude. Yeah. Parents, if they don't believe that you're sick, they put you in hell. You're no, no TV, no nothing. And it's the, hey, if you're really sick,

you should really rest. So just go in your room and lay there. Yeah. Some parents, I got some buddies now that it'd be like sniffles. And they're fucking staying home. And any time out here, oh, Chuck isn't here today, I just have one of them, my role like that dude ain't sick. Oh, he's kid home too.

Like kid was our boy too that, like, lived with Chuck. But it's like we were all just friends. Like they weren't brothers. Nothing. He was just living with Chuck at the time. And they'd be like, both of them were sick. It's like they're fucking at home right now playing 2K basketball. A hundred percent.

Bontair, yeah. Okay, back on. Yeah, that is, yeah, you know, everyone had those friends that when they weren't there, you're like, I know this motherfucker's having the best day. And his name was kid. Kid feels, I gave him that nickname in middle school. JJ Kid, he loved JJ Kid. He'd wear like wristbands around his calf with shorts.

I loved him. I loved him. Hey, this might not be a popular take. Two D's. I hated missing school. was never good in school but hated. So boring. Buddy, it's boring and like all your friends are there.

So when I see with these kids, it would be more like high school. Like these kids, you'd be like, I'm skipping class. I'm going, I'm thinking, bro, I want to go to class. It's cute girls in there. My boys are in this class. Like, I want to be around. I want to be around. I always wanted to get the 97% 98% attendance rate.

Go on the field trip at the end of the year. Get an award. We never had that. Never had that shit. I would have been in there every year. Yeah. every year with the sniffles we had a we had a girl at our high school graduation she was also our valedictorian lany anneson shout out lany perfect attendance all the way k through 12 no way

k through 12 it was the first time in our like school's history it's first time in american history truly they have this whole plaque and everything but there's like uh doctor's appointments that you could like miss uh like a class and it still counted you know what i mean of a full day but she made made it past like five periods at least every single day, which is crazy. That is nuts. That tip of the cap to her. Tip of the cap. Yeah.

Tip of the cap. Tip of the cap. Yeah. The whole sickness thing. How are you going to be if, how are you going to be if when Rue and Scotty are come up to you like, dad, I don't feel good. Like my stomach hurts. Oh, they'll go to school.

Rue didn't have the fever symptoms, but Rue had hand mouth foot and her ass was at school. It's more like checking with the teachers and everything else That's insane There is a thing too Like you check with the teachers And there's a level of they're not contagious If they don't have a fever And they don't have like sores in their mouth

They just kind of have the reaction of it Scotty had the fever and everything else Rue just kind of had Had like the dots and stuff on her foot And everything else But they were like already scabs And that's like a sign that she's not contagious So it's like we checked with the teachers

But it was also one of those things like I saw Charles I was like She needs to go to school she's feeling fine. I'm like, I'm with you, but this, it kind of looks weird. It kind of looks like a bit of a deal. And she's like, put shoes on her and everything else. And that's where I'm like, we're on the same page.

I just need more of a push because I'm like, this seems like it could be a deal. And once I drive and drop her off, I'm like asking the teachers and everything else and everything was all solid. But they'll go to, yeah, they'll go to school. You're putting your foot down? Like, no, you're just how you're going to show up every day? Like, this is, this is a discipline and a principle that you embody and you have to establish when they're, little because I know that's how that's how my parents were with me like there wasn't a there was no getting out of you know trying to be sick or anything else there were times where you're absolutely

dog sick and you just can't go to school um but yeah as long as as long as they're not like running a fever and everything else like if you're feeling bad it's like okay if you got like a little cold like to me you're going to school well we got to be in the hundreds before that conversation takes place of like do they miss school oh of a fever yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Big time. Same, my mom would do anything she could to get me to school. Like, I had to be actively vomiting or have, like, a one-on-one fever.

So, bro, one time when I was, like, younger, I applied nine or something like that, I did not want to go to school one day. And I tried to play sick, didn't have the fever, heard about the penny thing under the tongue, tried that, didn't work. That night, I took it one of those little green, like, Army Soul. with the little musket and it had like the little point to it and I kept putting into my nose and tickling the back of my nose and sneezed and I kept sneezing and sneezing and sneezing to where my mom came in like let's just call it an hour later and she's like hey you're not going to school tomorrow like it sounds like you're really having a hard time I'm having a really tough time didn't sneeze the rest of the night because it went right to sleep right after that they had to know yeah bro I would um they had to know I was lying yeah I got that I had that thing like touching my brain at some point my eyes are like welting up while I'm like I gotta get out I had no idea why I wanted to get out you were doing a COVID test before the COVID test yeah exactly I was in the OG one when they

take a hard right turn I feel like a sneeze is so easy to fake I just love that you're like no we're getting the real yeah I was like water pouring out of my eyes and it was just like one side to it my right side of my face was just like all red and I was like totally fine I had to put myself in a situation where it's like I couldn't I needed somebody else to be my my alibi And so after dinner one night, I'm like, I'm going to take a shower. White's like six years younger to me, but he's young enough to where he's shower. And it's like, all right, you guys, you help Wyatt shower, everything else. And I house a bunch of applesauce in my mouth and I kind of hold it to where we're showering.

And I just pretend to throw up all over the shower. So that way White could leave the shower and be like, oh, yeah, Will was thrown up. And I can kind of milk it a little bit. Like those were. And it goes in the drain too, which is genius. Yeah, yeah, to where she can't check it. All she has to do is trust White. and kind of going off my body language.

White's young enough, he doesn't know. True, acting skills. Yeah. That is elite. Elite. Do we have more tier talk, Shirm? We do, but just because of time we're thinking we may kick it to Chad Powers.

Okay. All right, let's kick it to Chad Powers real quick. Oh, Chad Powers eight years after flushing his promising college football career down the toilet, hot shot quarterback Russ Holiday, tries to resurrect his dreams by disguising himself as Chad Power is a talented oddball who walks on a struggling South Georgia Catfish Bay Catfish South Georgia Catfish based on Eli Manning's Eli's place a segment from ESPN and Omaha Productions.

This comedy event will take viewers by surprise with a comeback story that everyone can relate to. Chad Powers is now streaming with new episodes Tuesday on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers, terms apply. Um, listen. Have we, have you seen the latest episode? Have not. Okay. I am, I am fired up though that, uh, like we were streaming too and you saw a couple comments in the live chat being like, yo, Chad Powers is actually really good.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's, it's tough to oversell it, but we genuinely feel like this is a good show. Yeah. This show is genuinely good. So after they play Tennessee, they beat Tennessee. The last episode that came out was the spooky, they go to Spirit Holley. Halloween. He loses all the stuff. They have to go. Russ Holiday gets a gun and then finding all

the stuff on the floor. They ended up getting back to the hotel where he sees the girl. What's the girl's name again? Ricky. Ricky. Don't know why I always forget that. Ricky, Ricky and Russ Holiday, not Chad Power, see each other at the elevator. And Ricky's like, oh, I know who you are, blah, blah, they go back and forth where you see like one of his little lingering at the elevator for a minute as she's coming up to do bed checks. He runs up. They end up getting saved. That next day they beat the Tennessee volunteers. So this next episode that takes place,

they are 5 and 0. They're ranked like top 10 in the country or something like that and college game day is trying to do a like interview featured piece

on Chad Powers. To where Chad's like, you know, having a really hard time he's throwing up during it. It's a whole deal. A whole deal.

One of the top quotes. Remember we said like the wolves was a great one? Yeah. This one they're like, who's like really influenced you? And he just, looks he's like uh Benjamin Franklin

so good so good they talk him into it you see Ricky starting to like Chad Powers a little bit but does Ricky like Chad Powers if she knows he's Russ Holiday it's a whole back and forth man they have a nice little moment while they're watching film together great show well done show Chad Powers Russ Holiday decides to himself in this show which we don't see any further down at that the only reason why bad things happen to Russ Holiday is because he's Russ Holiday if he's always Chad Powers from here on now. It seems like only good things happen at Chad Power. So he's essentially saying, I'm no longer Russ Holiday. Chad Powers is who I am. He's even looking up

like how to get plastic surgery to change his face look like that forever. And so now he's having this identity crisis, turmoil, bipolar type multi-personality thing that's taking place back and forth. Oh, I love that. So it's good. It's a it's fun. There is a crazy wrinkle in this episode. We won't spoil it fully. Yeah, don't spoil. Don't spoil. Even Taylor talking about that right there. I'm not saying that's a spoiler, but I'm just thinking on my head, like, the writers, what a platform and stage for these writers to like

make something out of something that, again, we'll say again, people felt like it was half, like beating a dead horse with the Chad Powers and Lee, like, Manning stuff. And it's like, what is this? What is this Hulu show? And it's honestly, it's a good show. Delete that highlighted thing so Will doesn't see it. Okay, yes. Yeah, delete. Delete. Delete, delete.

Delete, delete. Delete, delete. Because, Bonnie, I forgot about that. Here's the segment Russ Holiday takes somebody down I'll say that Takes down abroad At the ball All right

Easy easy That's almost say That's almost say That's all we're saying That's all we're saying Here's the segment That we do have From the show

It's called a fresh set of downs segment Where we spotlight One transfer portal player Current or past Who wasn't playing ball well Or was buried on the depth chart

And all they needed was a fresh set of downs In order to spark their redemption story And turn their college careers around This week's Fresh Set of Downs

segment player of the week is Cade McConnell, Vanderbilt offensive lineman, the left guard. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. Friend of the franchise. Was the number 10 player in Oklahoma, valedictorian in high school, went to Minnesota originally, transferred from Minnesota to Vandy,

and he's one of the best offensive guards in the country. We have a little clip that we can show you where he is body-bagging LSU Tigers. Cade McConnell was also summer intern for Bustin with the boys. Yeah. I did not see that class. Summer interned a bus with the boys probably.

And it's your first time seeing it, Mitch? Probably was a beneath him internship. Valid Victorian, the whole thing. No disrespect to all of us, but also disrespect to all of us. Kate is kind of the one who helped catapult the entire internship program operation. Yeah. Because he was DM and us, but he was DM and Sherm to where Sherm kind of had like, like, hey, I see that there's this O-Lignment at Vanderbilt.

He's been talking about me about an internship, like he needs a certain credit or something like that. it'd be fun because he plays college football. He's at Vanderbilt. They had a good year last year. They could be tough this year. Dude seems like he would love to be for the brand. He says he'll do whatever it takes, whatever he can do for the brand. We hire guys like in operations and production and social, like specific people like in those lanes.

And we were kind of just adding like, yeah, we were going to do K the whole time. He was kind of going to just be our football guy who joined the boys. But he came in and he was like the most surprising. We hired a few people from that litter. but he was like a stud. Like somebody you just wouldn't expect like okay, offensive alignment he's doing it for a credit

he'll be fun banter he'll be good around the vibes he'll be good around the shop but he's cutting clips he's doing everything to where it's like yo he's you're gonna be special no job too big

no job too small guys on scholarship he's at Vandy they're a hot team he's getting an IL money and he comes in here and acts like he's doing janitorial things

he's cutting clips he's doing literally whatever it takes to be one of the boys it's unbelievable Can we break down this play for saying to go to the beginning of this play? This is a special play by Kate McConnell. You see they got a little, so they're like in this like three, four look right now. So they're fanning out the left tackle and left guard.

Kay McCownals playing left guard. They're fanning out. So these two guys are man. The end, who's a four eye, he's going to go out towards the tackle, basically allowing Kade to go back in. But Kade played a little bit. The way he bodybags this four eye technique, go ahead, let him bank him bank. and then right here, that's amazing. You see the Will linebacker.

He's dropped into coverage, so you know he just helps out your left tackle. That's a win for him on that side. He could essentially be done and just kind of hold space. The fact that he's going in to handle the center after that too, because a lot of times when one guy drops another way,

there could be blitzers coming the opposite way, so you have to bang a lot of guys back. This is heady football. This is valid Victorian football type shit right here. That gets me juiced up because he's violent. The thing that fires me up is his feet are incredible here. He's got extension on his punch.

He's violent with his punch without getting over his toes. And he's banging back. And when you're banging back, you're not like taking over the block. So you can throw that shoulder into it. Football porn. That's football porn. I don't know where he is. That's six to midnight.

That's you talking about 49 from Minnesota last week. I don't know the situation. But like, you brought that up in the stream where you're like, that's football porn for a linebacker. You're definitely intentionally going out of your way right there to bring up 49. No, there's no, you didn't have to do that. It's why well talks about Luke, Kigley. Yeah. This is, I don't know where he's...

First off, that's not true, but go ahead. I don't know he's ranked on the NFL or anything else, because I know he's a junior, he's got another year and all that. But if there are scouts that are watching tape, whether they're watching Diego, whatever cats they're watching at Vanderbilt, or on the defensive side for LSU, and they're watching this game,

that right there is a clip to where it's like, say he's not in the top ten, whatever it is. That's one where it's like, who is this kid? Right. And his name starts to... get in some conversations. That's name stuff. And if he put some consistency behind that, like,

this is a clip you will see on draft night, on draft day, whenever he does get picked. In the top time. Look at him here as a junior against LSU's defense. Yes. I may be wrong here, but I feel like I've heard some Joe Moore talks about Vandy's offensive line. Could be.

They're playing incredible way, man. They're playing amazing. I don't know what the stats are coming out of the LSU game, but before the LSU game, they were averaging over six yards per rush, which was number one in the country. Unbelievable. What's crazy about Vandy's O'Line and Cade in general is he switches sides each, like every other play. Which is insanity, by the way.

He doesn't play just right guard or left guard. They switch all the time. So within one series, he could take three, four snaps at left guard, three, four snaps at right guard. Dude, that's insane. That is, that is, I kind of hate that. He had another. Yeah, you hate that, but I just love how it's like, he's just thinking, just fucking have me in the game. Like, I'll swing it in which way.

They move the tackle, too. They bring the guard and the tackle. So, like, he sticks with the one guy. They just switch each time. It's the way Vandy runs their offense. That's crazy. What they need to do, Katie McConnell needs to transfer to Michigan next year if he's got one more year.

What was saying? I was going to say, we're watching Vandy LSU, and my dad was going, hey, that's your old's guy. That's Cade. That's 70 that sprung Diego for that touchdown run. They had up the left sideline. Yeah. He had a nasty block on that one, too.

He was head hunting. Boy, it was flowing right there. Yeah. There's another clip of him going viral, too, when he pulled from right guard and he came down and just completely ran someone over

that fires me up Cades are getting some love love, bro. One last talk about this clip two years ago when LSU played at Vandy there was an LSU offensive lineman who essentially

did the same thing to Vanity defense and it's cool to see that script flipped and it's even cool that's our guy that did it and I hope too that this photo is what's kind of sitting here while we talk about them

because just look at demon just a specimen specimen next to Cade a couple of dogs out there Yeah, it just makes you realize how fucking big Kate is. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy that those are two, the same things.

Those are both humans. Those are the same. Right. Like, those are both mammals or whatever, whatever we are. Like, that's crazy. They're both of the human species. They're both males. Yeah, like, those are both, like, if there's a litter of dogs, like, oh, like, that one's related to that one, like, in some one way, shape or form, like, those things are related right there.

That's crazy. Those are both homo sapiens. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. Yeah, the one of the less, a little extra, you know what I'm saying? And both, it's so funny you brought up the dog litter thing, because if they were both looking...

You got a little cap locked on those four letters at the beginning, huh, Shirm? That was your joke. Shirm told me that joke before. Anybody who gets mad at me for that joke? You got a little less sapient. Yeah, yeah, a little, yeah. One's got more sapien than the other. The dog litter analogy that you used, they would both, if they were shopping for dogs,

Cade would be picking the one that looked like Cade and Jared would for sure be picking the one that looked like Jared. He's like, let me give that one a chance. I love you to take this one home. Yeah, he's cute. He's like he just needs some cuddling. He can jump on the bad. Cade wants like a big fucking dog, Jared's like I'll take the little. Yeah.

A little scamper. That little chaper over here. You know, demons swinging in the air right now just thinking he's got a, he's got a German Shepherd, doesn't he? Yeah, German Shepherd. He's got Miss Pickles. What's his, uh, he's got a couple of bigger dogs. Miss biscuits. Ah, no.

Yeah, Miss biscuits. Hoskis. Shout out Miss biscuits. Huskies, though. Oh, my gosh. Did we want to get into, uh, Drew Breeze? It'll be on with us any second. Do we have anything else we want to hit in the intro?

Any pet peeves, any, anything. Uh, yeah, shout out. No free shout out this weather. It's finally broke. It's here. It's here. Yeah, bro. I got a pet peeve.

On the flight home, there was a family. Uh, one of the, There's a little kid behind me that was just kicking my chair a whole time. All good. Like I know what it's like to have children on a flight. And to me, it's like, listen, it's an hour flight. I can handle this little massage chair in the back, just kicking me back and forth. That's no problem.

But I look back for a second. The mom, she's just staring at her phone while this kid's doing that. And that's what I'm thinking to myself, honey. Like, we got to teach these kids things. It's not the kid's fault that he's taking the thing. He doesn't know he's doing the wrong thing right now. The dad notices after he is, I think he's Indian, he was something, he was something. He had a hard, hard accent on it.

And he, we go to get off the flight and he goes, oh, I'm not going to do the accent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to do the accent. He looks at me and he goes, my kid, my kid was kicking the back of your chair. And I was like, oh, yeah, it's no bad day. He goes, I'm not sorry. And I was like, you're not sorry? And he goes, I'm not sorry.

And I was like, I assume there's a language barrier going on. here that's a crazy thing to say but by peppy is that mom on her phone you know if he's phone on the flight i think he probably was sorry he probably was probably he probably had to be had to be was he said i'm not sorry i'm thinking you're just you're accidentally just putting a knot in there was he mean mugging like the whole time he was more he was more of a stone face killer yeah yeah he's more of a stone face he definitely was not sorry he was just trying to be a dick oh why but i didn't say nothing i was just chilling i think i think it's because like you did you like turn around?

No, no, no, I gave I was sitting there and I had a little gap right here and I'm looking, I'm talking to, I'm talking to Willa and I kind of gave like a peek like a little peekski and I just see the mom

chinned up doing her thing and I thought, oh, that's kind of crazy. I feel like when you learn the English language you know like not that's like in Borat

like you learn what not means. Yeah, there you go. All right. Borat got to figure it out quick. Yeah, boyat, if anything, the word not was a mainstay for him. Yeah. What?

You learn what not mean. Yeah, maybe fuck that guy, dude. I'm on the side. Like, I'd be pissed. No, I'm with you. You know what I did? Didn't say shit. Got off the plane.

Got off the plane? Yeah, what am I going to do? I beat up some Indian dude. Anywho, it's getting, uh, Drew Breeze? Drew Breeze. Drew Breeze, then Zach Bond. All right, gentlemen, as always,

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You got me? All right. What's up, man? What's going on? Dude, I'm looking over this, and I obviously am very familiar with your career, but Super Bowl champion, Super Bowl, 34, 13-time Pro Bowler, 2004, NFL AP, a comeback player of the year, 2006, NFL Walter, Peyton, man of the year, 2008 AP Off, it's a player of the year, 2011 NFL AP off, it's a player of the year, like, buddy.

I mean, you missed one. What I miss? Former teammate of Will Compton's for 10 days, for 10 days. So, of all those accolades, talk to me about what Will Compton did for you in your career. You know, just lead by example, you know? I mean, I always thought I was the first guy in last one to leave, but then this guy comes to town and just tries to show me up. Oh, stop, Drew.

That's him. That's him. That's us. That's us. That's you guys together. Making me look bad. It's devastating. Devastating.

Where should we start? We have a lot of ground to cover. Let's start at the beginning. Okay. Let's start at the beginning. Talk to me about growing up. getting no offers at a high school. And it ended up a boiler maker.

Talked to you about that process. Yeah. So I say this, look, man, you grow up in the state of Texas. Obviously, football's a way of life, you know, for a lot of small towns, you know, everything shuts down for Friday night lights. You know, I definitely grew up in that atmosphere. My grandfather was a longtime high school football coach down at Gregory, Portland High School, Portland, Texas, outside of Corpus Christi.

for 38 years. So, you know, as a kid, we would spend our summers down there. Basically, me and my brother were water boys for his football teams. So as a kid, man, I love sports. I mean, I was all ball, right? Just a gym rat. Football, basketball, baseball, you know, track, cross-country, tennis, soccer, like, you name it, just any sticking ball.

And honestly, going into high school, I was three-sport athletes. And if you asked me to put it in an oral. order of which sports were my favorite and maybe that I was kind of best at, it was baseball, then basketball, and then football. So you could play on the basketball court. Yeah, I was, I would play the point, but there was a better point guard, so I played the two. I was a shooting guard. But at baseball, like I was the three-hole hitter, through right, batted left, played short, but there was a better short stop, so I played third. There's a theme here. Yeah, yeah, better guys. So I just shifted positions, you know.

But yeah, bad in three hole. Model my swing after King Griffey Jr. Ted Williams was my favorite player of all time, the Splendid Splinter. So, yeah, really it was like baseball was my trajectory. That's where I really thought I would end up, you know, hopefully having a chance to play at the next level, either college or get drafted.

So even throughout high school, like, I'm playing baseball, I'm playing basketball. And yeah, I'm playing football. But, you know, hey, I was starting B-team quarterback on the freshman team. and now I'm the backup on JV, and I don't think I'm ever going to play. And there was actually a moment my sophomore year, midway through training camp, like hot, Texas heat, brutal. My mom picks me up from practice, and she can tell like I'm down in the dump.

So we pull into the garage, and she's like, what's wrong? I'm like, mom, I think I'm going to quit football. Like, I just don't think this is my path. I feel like I'm kind of wasting my time. Like, I'm playing behind this guy who's a phenom, you know, and he's going to be the heir apparent starter on varsity. so I'm just going to ride the bencher for the next couple of years. Why wouldn't I just focus on baseball if that's where I really think my path is?

And she's like, I mean, do you love it? I'm like, yeah, look, I love the competition. I love having the ball in my hands. I mean, I love the quarterback, you know, position, everything that comes along with it. Love being out there with my boys. But I just don't think I'm ever going to get a chance to play. And she's like, you never know when your opportunity will come. So just stick it out.

But first off, you made the commitment for this year. Like, so you're locked in. We can reassess at the end of the year, but you never know when your opportunity will come. And so sure enough, a week later, like going into my JV sophomore season where I was just going to ride the bench, the starter gets hurt in the final scrimmage. He tears his ACL. So, man, he's out. And all of a sudden, I'm thrust into the starting job. And the rest is kind of history there with football.

Like, it just took off. We ended up going 10 and 0 as a JV. I played really well. And then all of a sudden, it was like, okay, you're like, you're going to be the guy. Like, you're going to be the starter on varsity. And ironically, like, this is 1995. We go into my junior season of high school football. I went to Westlake High School, Austin, Texas.

It's a perennial powerhouse. Yeah. Like, always quarterfinals are beyond big school in state of Texas. But we had never won a state championship. Like, we'd always gotten really, really close, but never won one. And, like, this was our year. Like, the best team we've ever had. And we are rolling through the playoffs.

And in third round of the playoffs, I end up coming off of a bootleg, get hit. come down my knee buckles and sure enough I've torn my ACL ACL ACL lateral meniscus and so like all of a sudden now the whole reason I was starting was because this guy in front of me had done that and I had taken his job and so now all of a sudden this happens to me and this is like December of 95 and so or excuse me it was December of 95 yep and so now all of a sudden not only did you know that kind of derails our playoff run but then I missed the

basketball season and I missed the baseball season. And you're a junior, right? That's when you get recruited, right? That's your junior year where, and this is what everybody's kind of looking at you and thinking about who they're going to offer and all that stuff. And look, look, I was not an impressive guy to look at. Probably still not. Six foot 170 pounds, right?

Like nothing prototype about that. And so then even going into my senior season, you know, I gained about 20 pounds just from working out in the rehab process and all that stuff to come. back, but still six foot one 95 running a 528 boys, 52840 with the big clunky knee brace. I was not a real impressive guy to look at, you know? Not the guy that the recruiting coordinator is going to go and be like, hey, man, I got a gem for us, you know? Yeah.

Six foot 190 runs a 528 with a big old knee brace. You're going to love this kid. Yeah. Do you feel like offers and stuff would have been there had you not torn your ACL? Because, again, you're like, did you go on to win a state title your senior year? Yeah, look, we, like, I guess the accolades were there. Like, we went 16 and 0, we won a state championship in the biggest school of the state of Texas. Yes.

I was the 5A offensive player of the year in the state of Texas. Yes. Right. As big as against. So all that would tell you, okay, man, maybe he's got a little something. Yeah. But again, like, I think everybody at times gets pretty enthralled with the measurables, right? like the prototype look and I was certainly not that guy like I was I was I was I was I was a

multi-sport athlete right so I was I mean I think if you just kind of looked at it the way people look at it now I think that's a really attractive thing now is that they look at hey does this kid guy play other sports does you just know how to ball knows how to ball loves competition that sort of thing I think I checked all the boxes there but certainly the measurables weren't weren't there and so when it came down to it um I ended up getting recruited by two schools. It was Purdue and Kentucky. And the situations there were that both of them had new coaching staffs. So with Kentucky, Halmummy, I don't know if you remember this, how mummy, he was kind of part of that air raid offense. And that was really starting to take off

like mid-90s. He came from Valdosta State to Kentucky. And the quarterback in Kentucky at that time was Tim Couch. So Tim Couch was my host on my visit to Kentucky. And basically like these guys, kind of painted the picture for me. First of all, they were like, you can play football and baseball here. You're going to come in. You're going to back up Tim Couch because nobody's beating this dude out. He's a phenop. He's a stunt. He's going to play for two more years. So you're going to red shirt, back him up. And then he's going to leave early for the draft. He'll be the first pick. And then you're going to start for three years here in Kentucky. You're going to play baseball. I was like, okay, that actually sounds pretty attractive. Yeah, that sounds like a nice deal.

Yeah. And then I go to Purdue and Purdue had Joe Tiller, who just came from White, Wyoming. And they were running the spread offense. And he said that they were going to recruit me at Wyoming, but they're like, there's no way we're going to get this kid up to Wyoming. But then when he got to Purdue and it was Big Ten, you know, maybe a little bit bigger program. I was like, okay, now we can go after him. But he was shocked to hear that I didn't have any offers, really. So it came down to Purdue and Kentucky. And honestly, I chose Purdue, mainly because of the academic reputation, but also playing in the Big Ten. The quarterback prior to us, was a guy named Jay Rogers. He's actually the D-Line coach for the New Orleans Saints right now. But he was on a quarterback for Westlake High School. He went to Indiana University, so IU, and I played with his brothers. And so we would get together on the weekends to watch him play. And I'm watching play against Michigan and Ohio State and all the big boys.

And at the time, like Big Ten was, I mean, all those schools, I think, was where everybody aspired to go and play with or against. And so I remember seeing that saying, all right, I get, you mean, you're telling me I get to play against Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio, State, Penn State, Wisconsin every year and get a great education. And I was like, sign me up. So that's why I chose Purdue. Dude, that is awesome. What, are there, were there any other moments? Like, clearly you were able to, that moment you had. You said, was that with your mom where she was asking you saying you're going to finish out the rest of the year. You have that moment with your mom and then your opportunity kind of comes. And you're kind of forged through the fire on understanding these lessons at a young. age. Like, were there any lessons or moments during your time at Purdue that carried you into the NFL as well to where maybe you got tested or maybe it was another moment that you're able to look back on and see that, hey, I'm glad I stayed true to the process here? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, so many similarities like, you know, high school, I talked about West Lake high school, like, we moved into that district my freshman year. And ironically, it was because

my mom, like, we lived all over Austin in a bunch of different parts of town. My parents had gotten divorced when we moved to Austin. So it was kind of a tough time early, just as they were kind of trying to find, you know, their rhythm. And but at the end of the day, my mom looked around and said, okay, what's the best high school that's going to put my kids in the, you know, best position to succeed athletically, academically. So she chose West Lake High School. It was basically like, all right, I'm moving into the district so you can go to school here. And I remember showing up that day one, my freshman year of high school. And literally they were like, okay, who wants to play quarterback?

and like 40 hands went up in the air, including mine. And I looked around and I was like, dude, I am never going to touch the field, right? It was kind of similar at Purdue. Like, yeah, I get recruited, but I get recruited alongside two other quarterbacks, right? That were highly touted guys from the Midwest, big-time recruits, coming to play in the spread offense, right? Like, that was the big allure. You were going to throw it 50 times a game. And I show up.

So there's seven guys there to play quarterback, my true freshman year. So once again, it's like, oh, gosh. You know, I'm going to end up, you know, holding a, being a tackling dummy here for a few years before I maybe even get the chance to step on the field. Well, I ended up kind of becoming the backup quarterback to a fifth year senior, my true freshman year, and played in about seven or eight games. One of those being in a critical moment against Michigan State, Nick Saban was a head coach there. Like, our guy was not playing well. They benched him. They put me in.

I'm kind of like, you know, the young freshman going to come and start slinging it. I had no idea what I was doing. I threw a ball against tip, gets intercepted. They pull me back out, put the fifth year senior end. Ironically, we go down and score like two touchdowns in the final two to win the game. But like plenty of moments there where, man, you're just questioning whether you belong. You know, I think there's always, especially those moments as you kind of tick up levels, you know, from high school to college to the pros, they have those moments of like, man, like a little bit of self-doubt, like, do I belong here?

And it's a bit overwhelming. And it is where you just have to, it's like you got to do. just trust your training, trust your instincts, and trust the process. And, you know, a lot of self-belief, but also just, you know, the overcoming of adversity. And feeling like if you do things the right way, good things are going to happen. And then you get to the point where you almost mean you embrace, embrace the adversity, you embrace the challenges. Look, there were some defining moments in college. I'd say one of the biggest ones was I ended up winning the starting job.

my sophomore year. So we open up the year at USC, kind of a big, big moment, first start in the Coliseum against the USC Trojans in 1998. We end up losing that game, but I kind of felt like,

okay, man, I'm, you know, I can do this. And then we end up playing, I think it was Central Florida and Rice. We get wins there.

And then all of a sudden, it's kind of like leading up to this big game at Notre Dame. Notre Dame is top 10. And this is like dream come true, like going to play at Notre Dame. Yeah. I'm a sophomore.

Like this was one of the whole, reasons that I chose to come to Purdue was to be able to play in games like this. And for 58 minutes of that game, I play absolutely lights out. Like, I just, like, I blacked out and just, and we end up, like, we're beating the top, a top 10 team in the country as little old Purdue coming into Notre Dame. And then, unfortunately, in the last two minutes, like, we're just trying to just ice the game, just get one first down, Notre Dame's burning timeouts. So we get to third and 10.

And coach constantly kind of like, hey, I'm going to call a pass play. I'm putting this thing in your hands. Like, let's go get this first time and go win this game. And it was kind of like one of these rollout plays. And I'm throwing the ball over the middle to a guy. And I just let the ball sail a little bit hot. And it kind of tips off his fingertips. And Tony Driver, the free safety picks it off, runs it back to like the two yard line.

They kick a field goal to take the lead. And then we have another now two-minute drive to try to go win it. And I throw another pick. So basically two picks in the final two minutes. And, dude, when I say, well, first off, Purdue had won at Notre Dame in like 30 years, okay? And so I'm sitting here looking at all the seniors in the locker room and everybody's like crying and just, you know, like we had fought so stinking hard. And I was sitting there going, dude, you are responsible for this pain. Right.

I mean, like we all have these moments. Right. And it's like and and and then, but and then we, insult to injury. Like we, we now ride the bus back to Purdue. We bussed up to South Bend for this game. It's only like two and a half hours away. So I'm riding the bus back to Purdue. And I'm literally just staring out at the cornfields, you know, in Indiana.

And I'm just like, all right. This is like, you have a choice here, right? Like you can just go in the tank as a result of what just happened. Or you can, you know, freaking bow up, stiff upper lip, man, and show these guys what you're made of, right? And so look, a tough week of practice, but it was just like lock in, focus. This has to be your best performance. And we come out against Minnesota, and I think I went 31 to 36 for 522 yards and six touchdown. Oh, yes, sir.

Every single game record in Purdue history, that next game. And it was kind of like one of these misty, eerie day, like Midwest fall days. But it was just like it all kind of came together. And it was one of those, I don't know, it was like those one of those proven moments to myself. They're like you can, you can overcome one of these kind of devastating moments that mentally could really mess with you, right? Absolutely devastating comments. And if you come back that next week and just absolutely put your best foot forward. And I don't know, it just proved a lot to myself.

Yeah, two picks in those last two drives. You're definitely, you're trying to ice the game. Yeah, you're putting that entire game on yourself. Like, fuck, maybe I am who they think I am. Right. Right. Maybe my mom was wrong. I should have just played baseball in the entire.

Like, you're going way back in all that. Let me quit football. I should have quit the whole entire time. Dude, what was like being a sophomore and having that happen at the end of the Notre Dame game. Were there any like seniors? How was the leadership in that building at that time? Were they like coming up to you and checking you, putting their hand on your shoulder? But hey, it's going to be all right? Or was it like leave the kid alone and see what he does? No, no one's coming to save you vibes. No, I would say we had pretty good, we had good culture on

that team. And we had a good group of guys. And honestly, we had we had, we had guys that had been kind of beaten down for a while. You know, like Purdue hadn't had a lot of success, you know, up to that point. You know, 15 straight losing seasons or something like that. and just a lot of dysfunction. You know, when Joe Tiller got there, he had cleaned house on a lot of guys, you know, like that was a really tough first, you know, spring ball where he was honestly trying to run some guys out, right? And just make sure that he kind of kept the right guys. And so everybody who was there, like, had earned their right to be there.

And it was because they were great leaders and were great, you know, they had formed the culture. And so, man, I did have plenty of guys that. put their arm on me like, hey, man, we got you. We believe in you. And obviously, that means a lot. But I also knew I had to prove it to him. Yeah. So just for more context, everybody that already knows Drew Brees, but just going to say it again, six foot, you know, less than 200 pounds, around 200 pounds. You tear your ACL. You got a bum, you got a bum ACL over five seconds in the 40. You still get drafted in the second round to the chargers. You tear the shit out of your shoulder. Can you give us a look inside your mental, your mind during that process? Because in your

career, in your journey, you've had to trust your instincts. You've had to stay true to your beliefs, what you believe in everything else. Can you give us a look inside that moment when you tore your shoulder with the chargers and how close you were to potentially not playing ever again? I think you failed the physical later on as well. Like, give us a look inside of that story of overcoming that adversity. Yeah. So, uh, That was, at the time, man, that was about as devastating as it gets. Because that was truly a moment where I felt like my dream was just being ripped away, like that I would never play football again.

And look, my first five years with the San Diego Chargers, man, there were plenty of ups and downs. I came in as a rookie and backed up Doug Flutie for a year. Yeah. Which was to have Doug Flutie as a guy to learn from and as a mentor for four years, because he ended up then backing me up for three years, was so pivotal for me in my growth development and for my career. But during that stretch where I was the starter, I was benched three times by Marty Schottenheimer. For various reasons, you know, sometimes it was turning the ball over too much.

Sometimes it wasn't getting the job done. Sometimes it was just, hey, we need a spark. I'm going to throw Flutty in. there, but like nonetheless, for a young guy who's working so hard to establish himself, you know, as the starter for a team and gain that respect and that belief from my teammates in the organization, man, that's a shot to the ego, right? And like never had I had a moment in my career where I truly lost confidence. And there was definitely a moment or two during that stretch where you would say, like, I lost confidence. Like, I was just not sure if I could get

the job done, right? And yet, man, had battled through that and, you know, spent off-season just dedicating myself to being the very best leader that I could be quarterback, like, looking at my diet, my sleep patterns, like, ever like I was leaving no stone unturned. And finally had kind of reached this point, 0405, where okay, like, I am now a good player in this league. And I'm clearly the starting quarterback to this team and earn the right to be the franchise quarterback for this organization. Yeah. And then going into the very last game of the 2005 season, which was the end of my contract. So it was like, okay, I made it all the way through.

Yeah. I've proven it. And now is the opportunity to get the commitment from the organization long term. You're our guy, despite the fact that they drafted Phillip Rivers, you know, two years previous, who is now my backup, like, man, I am going to be the guy. And then that very last game against the Denver Broncos, you know, I come out of a pile jumping for a fumble, and I have this dislocated right throwing shoulder. Literally my arm is stuck like this.

It had dislocated out the bottom and it was just stuck like that. So I remember walking to the sideline. It's kind of like one of these rainy days. And like my body's in shock. But I know exactly. exactly what it is. And I know the gravity of the situation, you know. And I sat there as I'm walking off the field. I literally thought to myself, this is the last time I'm ever going to put on a charge of you for him. And then I get to the sideline. I was like, you know, this may be the last

time I ever play football again as the doc is like, you know, lethal weapon sliding my shoulder back into my socket. And even, you know, a couple days after that, like I go see Dr. James Andrews, who was the preeminent, you know, orthopedic surgeon down at Birmingham, Alabama. And literally he's looking at me like, hey, you have so much swelling in that shoulder. I really don't know the extent of the damage. Like, just let me get in there and figure it out. And then I'll kind of tell you when it's done. So like literally as I'm going under for surgery, I still don't know what's going to happen or even the gravity, the whole, you know, injury. And I end up coming out of the surgery and he's like, well, you know, he goes, if I, if I had to do that surgery a hundred

times, I couldn't do as well as I just did it. That was his message to me. So I was like, okay, that's what I want to hear, Doc. I'm like, what does that mean? He's like, he's like, look, you have a long road ahead of you. Like, it's a minimum eight months before you're even going to ever start to be able to throw again. He's like, I put you back together, but man, this rehab process is going to be a bear. And you're going to have to learn how to throw again, right? And there's kind of some non-negotiables about the rehab as we go along here. I mean, I was trying to push the envelope as much as I could.

But here's something interesting that happened in that, during that chain of events. So I actually, going into that last year, my agent had recommended that I get an insurance policy. on my shoulder. I mean, or basically just on my, you know, my body, my career. Right, right. Like, hey, you know, you have the chance to sign a long-term contract, which would be worth a lot of money. If something happens to you this year, you should get like a Lloyd's London contract, uh, insurance contract, just in the event that something happens and you can't play. So there was a moment where I had to make a decision as to whether I was going to collect the insurance policy and never play

again, where I was going to attempt to play again and void the insurance policy. Which I'm sure the insurance policy was probably a pretty hefty amount. It was good. Do you care to share that number at all of what that insurance policy was to show? I think it was like $5 million. So I think it was $5 million. That I could just take the $5 million and walk or attempt to play again. And again, there was no guarantees, right, that I would play again.

But I was like, you know what? Ripped that thing up, man. Like I just, I feel like God's got me. And this is, this is, even. even though this is the path that I wouldn't choose, like this is, this is the one I'm on, and I'm going to be better for it. And I think that's, that's really the way I look at that ACL injury with my, with my knee in high school.

You know, at the time I thought, hey, this is devastating. This is the worst thing ever could happen to me. I'm missing, you know, the basketball seat, the baseball seat. I'm not going to get recruited. Like, yes, did it alter my path? Maybe it did. But, man, it molded me, strengthened me. It made me stronger in my faith.

It did so many things for my path and my direction that, you know, at times that we leave it up to our own devices, you know, I think that's when, you know, we realized that, you know, God has us right where he wants us. And it's all for a reason. It's all meant to mold us in a lot of different ways. And both those injuries did that for me. And look, I never would have ended up with the Northern Saints and had that incredible, incredible experience, incredible run, incredible journey that we had there over the course of 15 years.

And obviously that became about so much more than just football. But I never had the chance to be a part of that if it wasn't for going through those things. Yeah, man. How long did that rehab process take in totality? Man, the shoulder was a solid eight months. So surgery was early January. And literally, I wasn't ready until week one of the season. So call it early September.

You know, I went through training camp, but I was on a pitch count. You know, so I was, you know, kind of ramping up. 20 throws and then 30 throws and then 40 throws. I mean, I can remember my first couple throws. I'm sitting there throwing a slant and just dirt in them, you know. And, you know, you can ask Sean Payton. Sean Payton's looking at our quarterback coach who had been with me in San Diego. I was like, hey, are we seeing the best of him right now?

And my QB coach would be like, hey, no, there's more there. There's more there. Just be patient. And truly, it was one of those things where it was like, if I threw 40 throws in a day, maybe two or three of them were good. Really? Then the next day it was four or five. The next day it was five or six.

And then seven. And then it just gradually each day. So truly trusting the process and not getting frustrated and just knowing that, man, it's just going to keep getting stronger. It's going to keep getting better. And the irony with that whole thing is like, honestly, I came back so much stronger. Like I'm saying like a stronger arm, like a stronger. lower half, like better mechanics, like everything came back better. And it was probably a result

of literally having to like rebuild the foundation for throwing again, like literally having to learn how to throw the football again. So mechanically, it was almost like, okay, any deficiencies that I had before, I can correct them now because I'm literally like rewiring the system just to get back on the field again. I got a, so I got kind of a two-partner here because we kind of brushed over the insurance policy a little bit. I want to know like who you talk to in that process, how long of a thought process it was before you're like, listen, $5 million sounds great, but I'm going to keep betting on me. And then also, how did we get to New Orleans from, you know, having the shoulder surgery playing your last game as a charger? Yeah. Well, it's a main conversations were with my wife

and then with my agent. Um, yes, my agent was Tom Condom. Um, shout out Tom. Same. Oh, Tommy. Yep. Yeah. So, you know, I think it was, you know, with Tom, like, man, Tom was always so just kind of poised, even keel. Like, Tom, I always felt like, you talk about an agent, you just feel like has your back, man, at all times. And, like, I think as devastated as we all were that I was just in that situation, I think Tom, if anything, gave me a ton of belief that I could come back and not only play, but, play at a high level, you know. And, and so it was just reinforcing what I, what I wanted to hear. You know, I just, I just wanted, I just wanted to feel like I just had everybody in my camp, you know, and everybody that was there to help push me to be, you know, the best that I could be,

but, but certainly, you know, just be unwavering, you know, in that belief. And he was one of those guys, of course, my wife. And so, yeah, I think at the end of the day, it became an easy decision. Like, I'll always regret if I don't, you know, make a run at it, you know. But I think all that is to say that, like, just the reality of the situation with my shoulder. Like, if you ask Dr. Andrews, he would tell you that he didn't think I was going to be able to come back and play again. Right. Even though he put its back together as good as he possibly could is like just the probabilities are not good. Yeah.

I just, he had never seen that injury in a throne ever. Like that was a bull rider's injury. When a bull rider gets his arm caught in the rope, this is what he told me. That's when he sees the dislocation out of the bottom, right? That's gnarly, man. That's gnarly. 360 degree tear to the labor. And so I have 13 anchors in my shoulder.

Like literally I would do rehab and it would sound like a cold rubber band. It was these anchors. in my shoulder. Yeah. Like just ringing in my ear. That's like a vivid memory of rehab. And for, and context for people,

I tore my shoulder as well and it works like a clock. Like I had 12. Like 13 is something extra has to be happening to your shoulder for him to have 13 anchors. So here's a thing too. So Zach Thomas had surgery

the same day that I did with a similar injury. But you guys playing linebacker, they're going to fix you differently because you're not required to have all this external rotation. We'll have tightness for our lives. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're going to tighten you guys up, right? Because you don't need all that, right? We're just right here. Yeah, exactly. But for a QB, rotational athlete needing all this external internal, like it's got to be stable enough, but loose enough, you know?

So it's like, it's walking this delicate line, right? Dude, yeah. Through the rehab process, it's just about building the strength and around that joint to protect it. But, yeah, I mean, it was like, a work of art as I think about what Dr. Andrews had to put back together and perform. Dude, that is incredible.

Again, like you've given that perspective, too, like, I'm not even thinking about it on Zach Thomas, like having similar surgeries and they got to do it a little bit differently because of quarterback, linebacker and everything else, and just you still overcoming that. And I appreciate you sharing all that with this too because I know, like, if you're young, like, I'm 36. I want to say you started to take off when I was, like, in high school, right? Like wasn't it like when you're having like the 4,000 yard seasons, isn't that around like what? 07, 08, 06 maybe?

Yeah. 06. 06 was our first year with the Saints. And that was really the start of the run. So even at my age, like I remember like there were a couple moments where I'm getting reminded that you played on the San Diego Chargers. I'm getting reminded your actual Labrum story came up during my rehab process on just guys. It was like you. I want to say Rich Gannon was another one.

but you're like learning about these things about like Drew Breeze that you that everybody knows of as a Hall of Fame quarterback like anybody young that just watched you basically your saint's days has really you know they could be hearing this for the first time just be thinking oh shit he played on it's always the oh shit he played on the chargers oh shit Philip Rivers was a backup him for a couple years oh he was behind Doug Flutie like the Drew Breeze that we all know right now right it's crazy so I appreciate you walking us down those those old memories Yeah, that's a little bit of memory laying there. But, man, every one of those.

Like, look, I consider myself really lucky from a coaching perspective, Joe Tiller in college, who was so influential for me. Marty Schottnheimer with the San Diego Charter, Sean Payton, with the New Orleans Saints. So pretty rare that you would just have, you know, that level of stability, you know, at each level. And each one of those guys, I just have lessons that continue to ring in my year, you know, each and every day, especially as now I'm coaching, and I'm coaching my kids and other

kids and just, you know, a lot of my style has been modeled off of those guys. Yeah, we have a lot of guys. We have Clay Matthews on one of our locker room show that comes out on Thursdays, and we also, and just hearing about these coaches and how their approach to these kids, what is your approach with your children? Are you hardest on your kids, a little easier on the other kids? We have Greg Olson. He's coaching his school. They actually just run. I love watching Greg stuff. I know. The irony is he's coaching middle school football. I was coaching my eighth grade Pop Warner son this year,

and I coached Pop Warner the last two years, too, for my freshman son. Yeah, it's, I would say my style, well, first off, I think it's very hard for a parent to coach your kids because it is very natural to try to overcoach them, right? It's like you feel like every lesson that comes to your mind to teach them, you just like, it's just coming out at all times. want to coach him like on every play. And that's where it just becomes difficult is blurring those lines between like dad

in the house and then, you know, I'm your coach. I can't tell you how many times I've had to look my son the eye and say, hey, so right now I'm your coach. I'm not your dad. Okay. I'm your coach. So listen to me. Right?

Do what I say. Yeah, yeah. But I'd say this. Like overall, I'd say I'm pretty intense. but I try to be intense with my praise as much as I am intense with my correction, right? So it's not it's not just one-sided. I would say I also I also try to really put each kid in the best position to succeed and try to find moments where you can put them in a position where you are able to give them praise.

I find that so many of these kids, like to watch their growth from the start of the year to the end of the year, like is monumental. And I think that's where we see the sport of football as just being like this creator of men, right? And good young men. There's just so many life lessons to be learned through the sport. and it's almost like you're just looking for those moments that you can set up in practice or in a game that you can immediately spin back to being a life lesson. And then I think like that recap at the end of every practice

and the recap at the end of every game are probably some of my favorite moments. It's like, hey, you kind of go around the circle, all the coaches, hey, what did we learn today? And man, you just try to take something that happened to practice and then bring it back to life, right? Like the effort of some kid or, you know, you know, whatever it might be.

Like I just, I find that those are the most valuable parts of coaching these young kids. I love it. You, we broke down the shoulder thing a little bit. Now we're in the process. You're going this eight month rehab where we don't know if you can play again. You've ripped up the insurance policy. Your wife's like, I believe in you. Tom Conant's like, I believe in you.

Tom Conant's paid to believe in you, yet you still believe that he believes me. What is his, how is he going out and what other teams is he talking to that ended up you go into the New Orleans Saints. Yeah, I would say because of the just, you know, unknowns with the shoulder and the fact that I think word had gotten out that, you know, I had a 25% chance of coming back and playing. You know, that was a, that was what the Miami Dolphins doctors had assessed with me. And they had told Nick Saban that. They had told the, the, the organization that. Because at the end of the day, it came down to the New Orleans Saints and the Miami Dolphins as being the two teams that were trying to bring me in as the starter.

There was a lot of teams that were like, hey, we'll bring you in as basically like a backup, and let's just see what you got, right? Let's see if you can come back. But the Saints and the Dolphins were the only two that were coming after me to be their starting quarterback. When you look at the NFL now, and there's all these talks around quarterback,

should they play as a rookie, all these young quarterbacks who struggle. Then you look at examples like Sam Darnold, who's in Baker Mayfield. Daniel Jones. Yeah, Daniel Jones. And clearly it was very similar with yourself. Like, what do you feel like you look at with these guys to where it's,

you know, everybody's wanting to either say they're not the guy or they're a bust or they just need to be in a better situation? Like, what are you seeing when you watch kind of these conversations unfold, pulling from your own experience, seeing these guys now have some. success after having a rocky start in the NFL? Look, man, it's a great, it's a great question. And it's probably, it's definitely an exact science because we see it, we see it succeed and fail a lot, right?

The first thing I would say is you just, you can't replace experience. And so the more experience a guy has, the more that you are going to see, um, what he's capable of and, and what you have. So I'll give you examples. Like, I, first of all, I think that. every NFL, any young player needs at least 40 to 50 high level starts before you're going to see, you know, what they're capable of. I think too many times guys get drafted and maybe they've only started for a year, year and a half or two in college, and they're expected to come in

and it just to happen. Like that's not reality. The reality, the reality, the reality is the reality. is if a guy has a limited number of starts in college, it's probably going to take him a good two to three years in the NFL before you're going to know what you have. And if he's in a situation where, look, as it is in most cases, most top 10-pick quarterbacks, top 15-pick quarterbacks are going to teams that aren't very good. That's why they're drafting that high. Or they have a lot of other holes to fill. And so it's just even more pressure that's falling on the quarterback position, right and everybody's got this win now mentality and man we don't have time like i get it but at the same time you also have to understand that man the maturation process for a quarterback takes takes a little time

the guys that do come in and maybe have more success early probably has a lot to do with the team that they're on and the system and the staff but also the amount of experience okay so like the rookies that came in and had success last year okay like the bow nicks bonyx started 60 games in college. Jayden Daniels. Jayden Daniels started four seasons. I think two years for Arizona State, two years for LSU, right?

Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy started 51 games at Iowa State, right? And every time they stepped on the field, they were not the better team, right? Like they were the underdogs. They had the chip on the shoulder. Like they had to kind of like, you know, gritty. So I think those would be examples of,

all right, a lot of experience. So better position to maybe have some success, you know, early in the NFL. but still a process. Is it still the same formula, even if they're having success early? Like, is it still kind of the same formula or system in your head to where it's like you still want to see a good 40, 50 high level starts in the NFL? Because people talk about, they try to break down Bow Nicks all the time.

Like, you played for Sean Payton. Everybody's like, this partnership, this is who Sean wanted it. It seems like Bo Nick has that mental, yeah, he has that mental fortitude. He has that kind of it factor on wanting to compete and learn and be really great. he also started a shitload of game. So if he has a down game, people, I feel like the conversation will be, well, he had all these starts. He's kind of as good of a product as he's going to be.

And it's like, well, there's still some separation from college to the NFL. Right. What do you see that situation like with like Bo Nix and Sean Peyton in Denver? Or an example like that. Some of it, too, is the style of offense that a lot of these college programs are running. Man, so much of it's no huddle, so much of its shotguns. and so much of it is RPO. You know, we're really, you're kind of pigeonholing the quarterbacks into,

in most cases, you're just reading like one person, or you're just reading like this small section of field. And so you don't really get a chance to learn a ton about coverage or even like, in other words, I don't know if your football IQ is where it needs to be, or if you've really been in positions where you've been forced to kind of learn all of those things, until you get to the NFL and then all of a sudden it is, man, the best teams are the ones that can get under center and run the ball. Like that's, you would know, Will, like as a linebacker, if you're exclusively in shotgun, I think that gives you, that gives you a lot more benefit than all of a sudden offense that is under center, we're going to pound it. Oh, here comes play action.

Right. opening up shots down the field. Oh, there's the screen game. Oh, there's the shotgun. Oh, we're going empty, right? Like this variety that you can throw at defenses in the NFL. If you have the ability to go under center and add that component, I think makes you much more of a problematic offense.

And I think from a quarterback perspective, it's a skill set that you need to have. Like I watched the New England Patriots right now on the Colts, two of the teams that are under center the most, and they're having some of the most success. and I think it's really benefiting those quarterbacks and Daniel Jones and Drake May. So I bring that point up just to say that I think a lot of these kids now are doing things in college

that then they come to the NFL and men they're having to do stuff that maybe they've never done before. Maybe they've never been under center. But man, that's a big benefit to have. I had a little bit of that learning curve when I came in the league. We were spread offense at Purdue, throwing the ball 50 times a game. I was in shotgun 90% of the time. I get into a pro-style offense with Likis.

Danny and Tomlinson and like a true fullback in Lorenzo Neal. And guess what? I'm under center like 75% of time, right? Having to turn my back to the defense on play action. Like I never, I didn't know what that was like. Right. So that took a little time. I saw that with Bow Nix last year because I know Sean Payton likes to do that.

So again, it's what's just where they end and then what are you asking them to do now? And just understanding there's going to be a little bit of a learning curve that goes along with that. Yeah. We'll brought up that, you know, the Bo, Nick, Sean Payton relationship. everyone always kinds of lean on like Sean Payton has found his new Drew Breeze, Bo Knicks, student of the game, true professional, very dialed in in his routine. Did you ever have a conversation with Sean Payton about the possibility of Bo Nix or as Bo Nix reached out to you and be like, hey, this guy's a really intense coach.

How do I get him to like me a little bit more? Like, what do I got to do? Like, have you had any conversations with those two about their relationship? Yeah, I mean, I remember talking to Sean a bunch during the draft process when all, you know, six of those quarterbacks were out there. And, you know, him talking about who he liked. And ironically, he loved Bo. He loved Bo from the very beginning.

And then Bo kind of fell in his lap at whatever that was, picked 12 or 13. And I think Bo has all the traits that Sean loves. First of all, Bo's a fiery competitor. Sean likes having a guy like that. Even a guy who's going to kind of snap back at him. You know, I think that Sean Payton comes from the Bill Parcells. World of Coaching, which is, you know,

Bill Parcells would get on you, you know? And I think Bill loved when you would come back to him with conviction, you know, about, about, you know, whatever it was. And so, Sean likes that type of a guy. And obviously, Bo, too, multi-sport athlete, a ton of experience, you know, knows what he likes. Definitely a learning curve, you know, with some of the things in Sean Payton's offense. And I think you've seen him grow and mature through that. Yeah, I've had many conversations with Bo too. I think just at the end of the day, just about like preparation and process.

Situation of football. I spend some time within this offseason. Great kid, man. Loves ball and wants to be great. You definitely see the mental four or two with Bo Nix, this last game against the Giants. I think they scored 36 and the fourth quarter. 33 and the fourth, man. Isn't that crazy?

Unreal. Unbelievable. Because you thought like I'm watching Jackson Dart and he's getting a couple penalties and that last thing. I'm like, this kid is really lighting the NFL on fire. and they score relatively quickly. It's like, holy shit, Bo Nix is about to do. And just two times.

Yeah, he's about to do it. If we go travel back down to the bayou a little bit, you got Spencer Radler. He's a first year starter, South Carolina game, Cog, J.P. Huffy, sitting on the bus with us. What are you seeing out of Kellynne Moore as his first time being a head coach at the Saints? Spencer Radler, seems like he has a lot of success.

Then he throws like two or three picks in a game, and they're kind of like finding their identity on offense. What do you see him from the New Orleans Saints right now? Yeah. Look, I think Spencer Rattler has a lot of unique traits. I think he throws the ball extremely well. I think he has the ability to improvise, to problem solve. He's taken off and run and made some exceptional plays with his legs this year.

So from that perspective, he has all those traits. I think he's got a little moxie to him. Look, I've always liked Kellyn Moore's systems wherever he's been. Been a lot of places has had to put together offenses for a lot of quarterbacks. And I think that's what he's been really good at, is putting together offenses that fit the strengths of the QBs and the personnel around them. I know it's tough as you sit here because you're like, ah, they're not a 1 in 16. They certainly don't look like a 1 in 16 when you watch them.

They've been in most of their games. Like most of their games have come down to a final drive where they had a chance to win, tie, certainly extend the game and find a way to win. Look, on the flip side, you look at the Tampa Bay Bucks, you know, They found ways to win. Unfortunately, the Saints just haven't, right? And their records reflect that. But I think they're building something there.

They've got a ton of pieces on offense. They've got one of the better O lines in football. Defensively, they've got a great core group of guys. Giving up too many big plays the last couple weeks. But otherwise, they have all the pieces, you know? So I think you just kind of scratch your head. They just haven't found ways to win some of these close ones. If somebody called you right now, if Kelmore called you, he's like, I need one game.

One game, Maddie, to show these young bucks what's what? Do you think with your competitive drive and you had, we'll give you three weeks to train, could you go in and be competitive in an NFL football game today? No, look, I would know, I would know where to throw it. I just don't know if I could get it there. Be laying, get the old. Yeah. If I turn on the tape, I know where it's supposed to go.

Right. Right. Right. No, that's one, that's one lingering effect from the, from the shoulder surgery back, you know, 20 years ago now was Dr. Andrews said, you know, hey, you're, you're, you're going to be on the fast track now for a degenerative shoulder. And, you know, at some point this thing's going to kind of take a steep dive. Then unfortunately, I think I'm at that point. Like, I don't, I don't throw with my right arm anymore. I actually throw left handed. I kind of started doing that towards into my career just with my kids because I'd come. home after a long day of practice and I didn't have anything left in the right arm and they but the boys want to play catch so yeah got to find a way you brought i throw i throw left hand and i'm hey i'm pretty i'm pretty mean inside of 30 uh with this left arm that's pretty fucking good dude you bring up a unique point though that a lot of a lot of players don't think about while they're playing is the wear and tear that's taking place in their body now that you've been out of the league for a few years now and you know okay my shoulder i was told it's going to be on a

fast track. What kind of things are you doing to kind of keep your body ahead of the chains so you don't kind of just kind of go downhill, not just a shoulder from a body standpoint. Yeah. No, great question. Look, I still love, I mean, I just love athletics and I love to be active. So, man, I play a bunch of racket sports. Like I play a bunch of Paddle, Pickle. I still like I like to mountain bike. I like to, you know, get in the water and do stand a paddle or surf. of course, just all the stuff that I do with my kids, you know, athletically. And then, look, I like to train.

I like to lift heavy weights at least twice a week, you know, especially lower body. Like, once you're a rotational athlete, like I never want to lose, like, you think about what you lose with the aging process. You lose the ability to go fast. You lose the ability to recover. And then you just lose the ability to do it, you know, day after day, right? you stay on top of. So like flexibility is important. So like yoga, Pilates, all those things to

make sure that I'm staying like pliable. I mean, I still get body work. And I saw in a cold tub, like religiously. And then honestly, just the staying strong. Like I want to, I want to feel like, especially part of this is maybe motivation because my boys are getting older and like they walk in the kitchen. They try to size you up. Don't walk up on me, boy. You know, like you got to. You got to, You got to keep pace, man. They're always eyeing you, man. Like, you know, so I feel like that's what motivates me. But I just want to, I just want to be able to do all the things I want to do for as long as I possibly can.

I used to use the term at the end of my career, prolong my prime. I was always trying to prolong my prime with everything I was doing. So, man, from a training, recovery, all that stuff, it's almost like I'm still playing from that perspective. I still have that same mentality. I love that. All right. eliminate some friends time to break some hearts best offensive weapon that you've ever had you got to play ladenian thalmelson jimmy graham alvin kamar darren sproles michael thomas you got to play with

a lot of specimens yeah who's your favorite offensive weapon you've ever played with i'll be honest with you man i might say darren sproles oh okay why did these bros uh would you want to cover sproles out of the back field no no when he was in philly and i would have him out in the flat when i was on the Redskins and he wouldn't catch the ball. I'd be like, hey, I'm really glad Sam Bradford did not throw you this ball out here. We pat each other on the helmet, jog back to the hull. I just, yeah, you know what?

It's like, you can have such a great defensive scheme, right? You can have such a great pressure or, you know, pass rush stunt or bracket coverage or whatever, you know, on tight ends, receivers. But like that running back out of the backfield, can ruin your day as a defense and as a defensive coordinator. So I just, I, you know, talking to our own defensive coordinators when we had Sprouls and then just watching, you know, his career and obviously what I know about him,

he was just such a weapon and a matchup problem. And like we could find ways to beat you in so many different ways with him. The other thing, too, was he didn't get enough credit as a runner. Yeah, no, he was not a big guy. I mean, he was 5-7, 180 pounds maybe. But here's the other thing, Will, like, hard to see him when he's behind linemen, right? Yeah. Like in the zone game.

So, like, he was slippery, slippery. And, man, the minute that he, like, one cut, found his lane, boy, he was gone, right? And then good luck open field tackling him. Yeah. So, like, for all those reasons, he just, he was a weapon that, I call him a generational player. Like truly, if you know how to use him and as durable as he was. And I'm not even, I didn't even talk about the special teams game.

Like him returning punts is one of the best punt returners, probably top three, top five of all time, all time. Yeah. So yeah, he was, he was special. And I think, too, it's like, people don't understand, like, especially when you get in the red zone and that half back option comes alive. you got to do like one or two things. Like as a coordinator, you're thinking, hey, Will or any linebacker. It's like take away the space, stay inside. But everybody knows this running back is going to win nine times out of ten.

So what do you got to do to kind of help with that out? You're going to have to give like a bam call to your edge rusher. So you're kind of taking the edge rusher out of pressure. So if you're aligning him too, hey, let's put him on the side where the best pass rusher is. And the backer back there's got to give him a bam call. He's giving a bam call. Pass rush is mad he doesn't get to rush to pastor. you're kind of arguing on the sidelines say, bro, I've got like, I'm not going to be able to

any linebacker. You're not able to cover this dude. And you're going to get, because they want to bracket, take away their stars everywhere else. But it's the fucking running back out of the backfield that's honestly the problem. Because you're not, and again, you're not lined up. You're not on the line of scrimmage to where if you're pressing or you're playing at, say, five yards, it's not like the fundamental coverage of a receiver. This dude's coming out of the backfield who can stem you before he even getting.

to where he's actually going to make his cut, which makes it insanely harder. Coordinators will try to put a safety down. Okay, let's get Willie Boy on the game, or let's get this backer who probably can't cover out of the game. You'll put a safety in. And they show you still 10 times out of 10. It's just not going to happen because it's not a routine coverage snap.

It blows my mind. It'll always piss me off. Drew, you can tell that Will is he's telling us with so much fortitude. He's just so, like, aggressive the way he's talking. No, no. But you know, that was the part that I forgot. Like, just from a pass rush perspective, And he is exactly right.

Like whenever Sprozy would line up in the backfield to that weak side, like all of a sudden that backer in a heartbeat is giving that call to the end to try to chip him all the way out, right? And that affects the pass rush, right? Drew, you know that Thursday, Friday, when they're going over Red Zone with Will, they're like, hey, you got Sproles this week. It's keep it inside. It was like, I got them.

Coach, no problem. This motherfucker's got to make me do this? I'm looking at Coach. I'm going to say that. You say that? Oh, yeah. I'm like, bro, I'm baming you. Like, this is what, if I get, say,

trips for a gun or I identify where I'm going to get got, right? Because it's not all the time, just the backs off set. But if I know I'm in this situation and I know this is what's coming, I'm fucking baming you, bro. Like, you're going to hit that, dude. Stop rushing the passion. Here's the other, here's the other story. And this kind of just rounds out the total package.

So we're playing the Niners back when they had that legit defense. This is like 2013. Oh, yeah, Pee Willis. And we have the chance to go down. beat him in the end. So right, we're on a two-minute drive. And then Sproles is kill him out of the backfield, this and that. And then there's this one moment where we call a past play that's a man-beater. And sure enough, here's Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman. Boy, hitting these A-gaps, right? And Sproleses, he's in the backfield. And I remember, like, right before the play, I said,

hey, bro, I'm not going to do this too often, but you got to bow. You just got to bow up on this thing right now, right? Like, you've got to step up and you got to handle this guy. So we can deliver this ball out of field in man coverage and go kick a field to win this game. And dude, he steps up and, oh, hey, those dudes were. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, that was the tandem for a long time. Yeah, one of the best tangoes of all time.

Right. That's who everybody was watching. And supposedly comes up and just bow, right, right in the chest of Bowman and just holds them off for long enough, right? So we can deliver them all down the field in man coverage like Jimmy Graham, he didn't field go range, kick this game winner. But again, like, that's the other part of being like a back that goes probably on, you don't unappreciated.

You know, you talk a lot about what they can do out of the backfield. You talk about the run game. But at times, they got to step up and deliver a blow on a guy and allow you to, you know, get the ball down the field, the big situation. And Spousie was always willing to do that at 5-7, a buck 80 against some of these, 250-pound dogs. Yeah. I love that.

Bud light question? Yeah, let's get it out of here. All right, Drew. We all know everyone would do anything for an ice cold, crisp bud light. If you could have a Bud Light with anybody in the world past or present, who would it be? Oh, wow. That's a good one. You know, I'm going to say, it's just the first name that came to mine.

I'm going to say Roger Stallbach. Roger Stallbach. Why him? Yeah. I just, we were at the Cowboys Commanders game yesterday. It was my son's birthday, and his godfather's Brian Schoenheimer. So we were there watching the Cowboys play. And I remember seeing Stalbach before the game.

And I was just thinking, like, one of the all-time greats, one of the all-time legends. There's actually a great story. I sang the take me out to the ballgame at Wrigley Field with Roger Stalbach back when I was in college. That's a story for another time. But anyway, he's one of all-time favorites. cowboy legend and I just saw him yesterday so that was the first name that came to mind. I love it. Hey, we appreciate it, Drew.

Thank you for coming on. Thank you for sharing all those stories. You're an absolute legend, Hall of Famer, all the fun stuff. What's up? We gotta get him on here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The boys in the back, they're saying we gotta get Drew on the bus. They're out over here just pointing at the chair on the bus.

We'd love to have you on the bus one day. But thank you for your time, bro. Absolutely, man. Thanks, guys. Appreciate you. Just give a round of applause for Drew. Appreciate you, Drew. I love you, Drew.

guys. Have a good one, man. Thank you very much. Yeah. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news?

We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.

So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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that you'd love to get into or just his least yes speeches yeah leadership just you look to talk about like he's like a Peyton Manning type right where he would just lose it on players of practice and like send him in the sideline. That's the thing too. Like him and Sean Payton, they were the first, that was the first time I experienced where,

what's it, Mike. Is this going to be still in the pot? Or are we going to cut this part? Oh, sorry. It can be in the pot. You feel like this is awesome. Yeah.

What I was saying to, where was I out? Help me out. You were talking about Sean, first time you experienced Sean Payton and Drew Breeze. Oh, yeah,

talking about his intensity and everything else. Like that was when I was on the same, That was kind of the first organization to where Sean Payton would stop practice at any point of practice. If something came up, like not just like he had this plan, but if a moment came up or say an incompletion or something happens, he's like thinking something, his mind of a situation this could be in and they all stop it or Drew would have one. Everybody stopped practice and we would all come up as a team and he'd be breaking down the situation.

So that's what I get fascinated because you also see clips too of Drew Breeze and Sean Peyton sitting there the night before a game like up late going through every type of situation. football. And I'm thinking of that type of schooling that Bo Nix is getting and it probably will, even though he's had so many starts, the difference in college and pros and everything else, to where he's still very much immersed in this school of Sean Payton to where he's got the effect of wanting to learn it. But as he continues to digest it, he'll like just continue to get better because of how intense and situational I feel like Coach Paton is. Yeah. And like you could see Bo Nix taking that next step because you're right. Like college and NFL are completely

different sports. So there is going to take some time, even though Bo Nix played 60 games or however many it was. But you see it in that last drive after Jackson Dart has that running for the touchdown. The way he is working the sidelines and with time in the middle of the field,

he's from a situational football standpoint, he's figuring it out quickly. Right. Because they know exactly the Yarlene they have to get to. You don't have like the red line on the screen that all of us are watching.

They know like, hey, our kicker's great best from this area, from this hash, he's working it. It's very impressive to see. Yeah. So that makes a lot of sense. You're talking about like Sean Payton sitting there. He sees a situation at practice.

Like let's break this down for everybody so they know the situation. Yeah. That's awesome. That's just good coaching. Get you juiced up. I can't imagine. When you're in those situations where there's like,

there's no timeouts left, you're in a double wall situation to where you're forcing them to throw the ball to the inside. They might gain yardage, but they're trying to maybe gain yardage and kick a field goal tour. It's like however much time is left on the clock,

let's call it anywhere between like 12 and 16, seconds to where it's like there it's a per second margin on hey this isn't good to call double wall yet or we're all going to this the call's going to be double wall to where in college the coaching staff might know this and the players don't but in the NFL like everybody has everybody has to know understand what's going on to where they're quizzing you throughout the week and everything else hey this situation happens it's very specific very particular we're not going to be able to rep it in the game we might run at one time and walk through every other week just to stay refreshed on it, but it's like it's those situations where all players have to

understand the situational awareness of the NFL. And you could tell the Giants were doing that in that last drive because at the one where Bo Nicks throws it to the middle of the field, it ends up getting them into field goal range. There's two wide receivers that are running similar routes where it seems like, oh, there might have been an MA. Yeah, like Cortland. Yeah. He's starting to Cortland Sutton. Right. And it kind of goes past him. But in that situation, if you're the, if you're able, you're the Giants coach, you need to be telling these guys on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, if we're in this position where I make him throw to the middle of field and we're in that 12 to 16 second mark one guy makes a tackle let's get two or three guys on top of him as well right don't get a penalty

but lay on them a little longer but lay on them let it drag out where they have to kind of push you off because they kick that ball with what two seconds left in the clock and what's that they spiked it right and so they might not be able to put themselves in the position to spike it if you have not just one guy on there but one two three guys where it's like we got to get this guy off That's just little things you can do When the seconds matter more than anything else And you're forcing the quarterback to throw it to the middle of the field Right, right.

I want to say there was a situation like that in college. Did somebody on here post a clip of like, you know, somebody catching the ball, he's on the ground And everybody's kind of like laying on him or diving on them. That was me that posted that And honestly it was taking a little bit Everybody was saying I was getting upset with the refs Really I was mad at our play call

But it was before the half We run a play. to hurry up and clock it and their players were laying on top of us blatantly. That was one where it's like, that's a little, that's where you're coaching. That's where you probably will see a flag because you've got to kind of, if you get the tackle, make sure you're on top and just take your time getting up, but it did seem like a few players were, they were just like shoving them down and then walking up. Right.

Which that is, that is a penalty. That is. Should have been. That should absolutely be a penalty. But yeah, it's that kind of stuff. That just changes one little thing. because if you watch that Giants Broncos game, like Giants own that entire game,

had it, and then Jackson Dart throws a bad pick late in the fourth quarter that lets them come back. I don't know what the exact score was. Wasn't it that many points too within like the last six minutes? Yeah, there were three lead changes in the last six minutes of the game. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal. Going into the fourth quarter,

Bo Nix had like 11 fantasy points, and then he finished with 39. Yeah. Yeah. Because I have him in my other league still lost. But when I saw him still have 30-something, because I'm like checking, I'm like, I'm checking the game through fantasy. And I did see him have like, he didn't have very many points.

Like, you know, Bo Nix, like Giants, they must be, they must be the real deal. And then when I saw it, I got home in time to watch the end of that game and they're like four total touchdowns. I got there right when he was running that like QB design run when they scored to go up. And then Jackson, they go down a couple, you know, calls. Like that PI calls a little, I thought, suspect that they called on Riley. Yeah, an exciting game. Exciting game. Exciting game.

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We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

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with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Welcome, Zach Bonn. Welcome to Bustin with the boys, bro. Buddy, first off, I know we got a lot of football to get into.

But that house, man, something about Forest Green for me really sets the tone. Did you build this house yourself? Do you paint it yourself? What's going on? Did not build it, but we did have it painted, yes. Nice, nice. Everybody's got to paint their house.

Everybody's got to paint their house. This is that front sitting room that you never use. Yeah, that's what I'm in right now. Yeah, get it in. That's dialed up, man. Bro. First off, congrats on the big win. Thank you.

Yeah, needed that one. G-B-O-T. Bro, so stuff to have you. I think you are phenomenal. I think it's super impressive that you're somebody that's been able to move from the outside. side to the inside. I do have to ask

Cam Scadaboo. Ooh. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. That's one of those guys you watch on film and you're like, dang, he runs hard. But you don't really know until you feel it yourself. So I'm glad we got him this week. Yeah. Yeah. I'll just say that. Yeah. And he caught you kind of sideways too. If I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt,

I know you can run. I know you can hit, but he kind of had you sideways. and just watch it from the side angle, seeing you go, go over yours. Oh, shit, that one, eh. Yeah, that was a run across the field and get my ass smack type play right there. Listen, we all got. I got to the sideline, I'm like, I'm like,

hey, did it look bad? Did it look bad? That's one of those. That's one of the way. When you're watching next week in the position meetings, too, like, you know, you guys had a tough loss, but just sitting there and a defensive meeting or a position meeting, you're just like, all right, go ahead, skip through this one.

Yeah, yeah. get to that plan, you just put your head down hoping we just, we just skip over. A couple of your buddies looking over here in the corner like, God damn, that happened to you? Yeah. But hey, yeah. What has the energy been like in that building? You guys obviously had a big week this week. Jalen Hertz throws for a billion yards.

Everybody's been saying you guys can't throw the ball. Everyone's like, hey, this is the best put together team, but we're lacking on deep. There's been so much noise on the outside revolving around the Philadelphia Eagles. What has it been like in the building for you guys, keeping the main thing, the main thing? Yeah, I think the noise in the media is a lot louder than the noise in the locker room. Like we get to the locker room and it's like, what's the big fuss? Like we're winning games for the most part. We're winning games and we're doing an overall good job.

So I think it's all blown out of proportion and just keeping the main thing, the main thing, is the biggest thing. Winning games. A couple weeks ago when it was the Giants and just from your vantage point watching it happen, the four tush pushes in a row to go and score. Knowing it was like, was it fourth and short or third and short? It's like, okay,

we're going to get two opportunities at these. You get it. You're on the one yard line. You continue to just do the tush push. I know watching it on TV. I'm sitting there. These dudes are really doing four tush pushes in a row. Yeah.

Usually I'm the guy that's like, yep, run it again, run it again. But after the third time, I'm like, all right, all right. We've got to try something different. But the thing is it works. And if you run a play that works, why not keep running it? Yeah. You got the Giants second time in three weeks this week.

What are some things? You can go and watch the film, but from you as a player being on that field when you guys played them on Thursday night football, what are the things that they did so well that made it difficult for you guys on defense? Yeah, I think just the theme this year has been, like, as defending champions, like,

we're going to get everyone's best shot. everyone's going to come at us like with their best game like their best game plan the physicality their intensity and that's what it was um that game so just combating that and coming with some swag at home what was the take like obviously it was a bad taste but is this a game now you you beat the vikings which was a massive win for you guys especially again with all the noise offensively the question marks even defensively you guys haven't played your best football i know you guys have had injuries but once that game was over against the vikings is there a like a salivation going on getting the Giants again this quickly after the loss.

Yeah, it's very rare that you play a team two times like that close. Sometimes it'll be like one at the beginning of the season and then one at the end. But to get them this close, it's kind of weird, to be honest. But good for us because we lost and we get to get our lick back. But yeah, just got to get after it, honestly. Because you know, like after New York wins that game in the fashion that they did do it, it's like you see it's like you got all the bulletin board material in the world to just to be like licking your chops for this game you got the you know the creatine Caucasian Jackson dark camp scataboo they're like scataboo's out there posing shirtless like he's going viral for head button walls and shit gets the hit on oh Zach Bonn I know you're gonna be pissed off brother ready to go come on man I got to we got to get our lick back we're too competitive in this game to to just lay down and take it like that buddy I want to talk to you

real quick about you signing a one-year deal for $3.5 million with the Eagles, your approve it deal. And you became an all-pro in that. Like, for all the players watching who sit there and they've been the situation where they know they can be this caliber of player, and they have to

go into a prove-it deal, like, what is the mindset, what is the takeover for you to go, not only become an all-pro guy, but be wearing the green dot for an elite defense who wins the Super Bowl. And then eventually, getting a, what was this? The number was too big for the piece of paper, a three-year, $51 million contract extension after that, like, had to be a lot

of ups and downs and thought process when you're leaving the Saints going to the Eagles. And that year, the off-season, what was that like for you? As an inside back or two. Yeah, yeah. Leaving the Saints, I had like two paths. I could have gone down. I could have, like, stuck with being a special team's guy and played my role and done a good job at that and played a long time, made some money.

But there was something in me that was like, man, I know I can play. I know I can play whether it's inside or outside. I talk with my agent, my wife, my family, and they're like, give it another shot. Like, don't give up on yourself just yet. And I didn't know what position I was going to play coming to the Eagles until I'm at the front door meeting the inside linebacker coach's hand.

And I'm like, all right, I guess I'm inside. Let's figure this out. And we had a lot of new guys in the culture here so good. So I just jumped right in and started winning games and playing well. Absolute specimen being a special team's demon because you can run. I'm sitting here looking right now. It's what am I seeing here? Holds his high school 200 meter record, ran a 21.5 at 220 pounds.

Like, are you somebody who's sitting there talking shit with the boys on teams when they're talking about who the fastest guy is? They never throw me in that conversation, but I always need to get my respect. Like, I'm fast too. But you can fly. You can fly. I also see that you played quarterback in high school through for about 2,000. yards and 20 touchdowns? Yeah, I played quarterback, but I was really just like small town athlete, you know,

get it in his hands every time I was running the ball. I would drop back knowing I'm about to take off and run. So it's a lot of a lot of rushing touchdowns. We got to work on him just talking shit like, yeah, I was that dude. Yeah, like yeah, but you know, I was small town. You know what he is? Like nobody. He thinks he's talking to the real media right now, as if we're going to do anything about it.

Is that mom, over-arrogate linebacker, thought he was the man in high school. bro if you're a cat i'm assuming you went both ways on the football field and you're playing quarterback dropping back and it's like yeah you all know i'm going to run but i'm still going to go off on you guys no matter what yeah there was some confidence there for sure yeah all right you know you got a little something you know he had the chin strap uh chin strap um buckles feeling like michael vick at times yeah what kid didn't do that mouth guard hanging out yeah that was me what uh what's your what's your thought process when you look at the big ten and you see the state of your alma mater, the Wisconsin Badgers

right now. I hate doing this. Ooh. But it's tough for Luke Fickle and the boys, man. What's going on there? I couldn't tell you, man. Let me ask you, when you think, when you think of Wisconsin football, what do you think? I think about run game,

offensive linemen that all could be in the NFL, just three yards in a cloud of dust until 60, 40, 50 happens. And I'm thinking, also thinking linebackers, your guys is defensive front seven. Yeah, yeah, I'd be thinking 13 personnel, 21, 22, extra alignment, corn-fed, Wisconsin farm boys. Yeah, the size of the Packers. Yeah, when you watch them now, that's not what I'm seeing. That's not what I'm seeing.

So I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to, I'll keep my comments to myself, but we need to win some games. You know, you don't have to say anything. I just know for me, like I was fired up for the fickle hire. He was one of the best head coaches when he left Cincinnati. So I'm sitting here completely surprised that he hasn't been able to get Wisconsin going because you guys have been good.

I mean, you guys whooped our ass. But you guys have been good for a long time. I feel like running the ball, playing defense. I feel like fickle. Like I don't know a whole lot about him other than how he did in Cincinnati. And I know he's like him and Vrable were they're best friends. So I'm thinking, okay, he's going to bring this chip on shoulder mentality, like this swagger, this no nonsense, all hard work.

everything else to Wisconsin. So I'm like, I'm shocked. I'm sure like everybody else is just that fickle hasn't worked out there. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Part of me was like giving him the benefit of the doubt, like, okay, he's got to get his guys in here to like, if we're going to switch the system and switch what we do, like we need different players. We can't have these big old old linemen running the spread offense.

So maybe just give it some time to develop and get some different guys in there. Exciting whites. You get to play with them on every single down. took the world by storm last year. They ended up starting their own podcast. Talk to me about what Cooper DeGide and Reed-Blakey ship are on the field. How are these guys, are they big communicators? Like, are these two dudes you hate, just let them go play?

I want to know about their play style. What kind of camarader we have in the locker room? Yeah, I'll start with Reed. Reed's the biggest communicator at the safety spot. He, like, demands the coverage aspect of our defense and a really good player. He knows what's going on. he knows what's coming. And then Coop is just a dog.

Like, I do it all. He's strong in the run game. Coming up, making tackles, can cover, hey, the exciting whites are doing their thing. Yeah, they are, too. You pop on the film, though. They are doing their thing. We're flying around.

We're putting together a good football team at the end of this year. What team am I on? I personally, I love to claim you. I love to claim you and say, Zach Bonn is, will be our green. dot on defense. Listen, if you weren't asking me and I broke this down myself in December, you'll be on the team.

And then from there, it's what happens whenever, you know, guys kind of see it. They're thinking, you know, I'm not on the old white team. I want to say, who is the, who's the safety for the Ravens? Who? Kyle Hamilton. Kyle Hamilton. I claimed him a couple years ago, but they were kind of breaking down the footage. and he sat on a plane right after the game

that he was a part of the All-White team. And I'm like, hey, buddy, we got you. Like, he went to Notre Dame. Right. You know, we get to kind of have them for a year. So it's more like, I'll put the ball in your court. I tell you what, we love to have you. I'm talking with World of Red Carpet out for your recruiting visit.

There might be a lot more ego and guys trying to figure out who's going to be playing on the roster. I can guarantee you a starting spot right now on the All-White Squad. You'll be there. You've got half the secondary already. You've got to set your parameters. I'm like, what are you doing with the mix, the mixed guys?

Yeah, it's usually if they say, it's usually if they say the word or not. They walk around, they're saying the word. It's kind of the language barrier a little bit. That's kind of my parameters. And I'm like, he seems like a type of guy who's going to be on the all-white squad this year. Are you, so you bringing this up,

are you saying, hey, Will Compton, I would like to be on the all-white team this year? I like to make that squad. It's you guys are the head coaches, I guess. Yeah, trust me. We got you guys are kind of dishing, dishing and dealing. I already got the pitch for you. You got Reed, you got Cooper DeGine.

Riley Moss is out there in Denver, super familiar with Cooper DeGine. You guys are communicating on the back end as well as any unit in the country. So, listen, we would thrive. We would thrive with you on the all white team. Hey, what's this? I want you to school me up here. What is this run-scape I'm hearing about? Rune.

Rune-scape. Rune-scape. What is this Roonscape I'm hearing about? You know, you did a shout out for the Eagles. There's social posts that's going viral. Yeah. You played it big time as a kid. Runecape's an old game that I used to play as a kid.

I think it came out like early 2000s, like retro, kind of like a World of Warcraft type game that I just found out they have on mobile now. So I hop back on and really been enjoying it. Did you ever play? Have you guys played? No, no, no, no. You could tell by Will's pronunciation of the game. he hasn't played the game but i also have not played the game you bring up world of warcraft are

you familiar at all with diablo no damn it no ask him about that asking about that dinosaur one oh ark you are you familiar with the game arc i've heard of arc i've heard of arc i play i played for probably 20 minutes and i didn't like it yeah that's that's fair because when you start you're basically in survival mode for the first 50 levels before you can essentially sustain a life with these prehistoric animals it's very difficult to do but i've i've found myself at a a very weird, weird world with Arc. My wife's, one of my wife's best friends, met a guy on Arc. They are now married in Canada. It's a long story. You have too much, you don't have enough time for it. We can talk some Arc. My problem with Arc is just that you could build up

all these levels, but some crew comes in and takes you over. You're starting from ground zero. Right, right. That's why you need this guy. Yeah, when you turn the game off, like, you're still like sleeping. You're alive. Right. You have to like essentially go to bed in the game at any point. And it's always, I'm not going to say the ethnicity that gets you. but there's one, there's one ethnicity that always comes and gets your ass while you're gone. Oh my God, too, too, too. I know you're right, you're right, you're right. But my buddy of my wife's friend, she got married to a guy named Joe who's like,

got to be top 50 player in the world. And we meet him via online. And now we're like riding around in jet packs. Like we're living. We're living, we're living Cush out there in the Arkworld. You got to come back and revisit for a second. I love back in like the Old Testament days, you're marrying for like, supreme protection.

Yeah. And she married into somebody who's a top 50 player in the world. That's exactly. That's exactly what she's doing right now. Talk to me about Vic Fangio.

What kind of DC are we? Is he like a players coach type of guy? Is he a hard-nosed cat? He's got a good personality on him. Like break him down for a way. Is he like, oh, he could be in a bad mood today? Let's not jab him a whole lot. Yeah.

No, he's kind of a players coach and like a hard-nosed guy. He wants everyone to succeed and do their best, but at the same time, he's like, going to get on you to do it. But it's not, it's direct and indirect at the same time. Like, he'll drill into guys, but then he'll also, like, throw a little shade or jabs.

It's all accountability is what it comes down to. Somebody I'm absolutely terrified by is Jalen Carter. Yep. Is there, is anybody saying a word to him after the Dallas Cowboys game from week one when the whole spit thing happened? Or is that kind of like, he probably knows we're just going to let the old boy be. He knew what he did. He knew immediately that what he did was wrong.

But yeah, we went up and talked to him. Like, you can't be doing that, obviously. But there was a time last year, and I'm new. So I don't really know J.C. It's probably game three or four. He does what he does and swims out of his gap to make a play. I get it. But in the game, in the moment, I'm like, you got to be in your gap.

Like, come on. And he's like, don't tell me how to play football, bro. And I'm like, hey, hey, go ahead. Hey, I'll make you right. Yeah, you know what? J.C., you're absolutely right. I should have been in your gap in that situation. I saw what you were doing there.

ZB.'s trying to do some, like leadership stuff. Like, hey, hey, hey, come on. Hey, I need you in this gap. When you do that, this is how it hurts the back in. Man, shut up. Don't teach me how to play football. Hey, Big Doug. That's on me.

You're right. You know what? I'll do that. Really, really good dude, though. Really good dude. Solid dude. Great football. No doubt. Sounds like a terrifying dude, but a solid dude nonetheless.

Like, this is a guy. I'm glad he's on our team. Yes. Yes. That's the guy at 100%. He's a really good dude. Yeah, as long as he's got my back. Right. As long as he's got my back. I picture like Zach Bond and like five other guys that way over 280 walking up to J.C. being like, you understand like we probably shouldn't spit on guys, right? And just kind of like waiting to see how he handles it. Or like when they're walking up to him like, hey, so ZB, you're going to say, are you going to say the first?

Like, are you going to start the conversation? Then I'll come in. Yeah, yeah. And then Zeeb walks up, he's like, hey, man, Lane wanted to tell you something real quick. I just wanted to let you know. Then just put Lane Johnson on the bus. Like, hey, you got to handle this. How funnyest thing is on punt up, like punt safe when we leave our defense out there,

just going up to the right guard and be like, hey, J.C., fuck his ass up. That poor bastards, buckling us just drop a little bit tighter. He bumps in there, right guard, and I'm just hearing that. And I was like, hey, big dog, like, you know, we can. This is punt safe. Yeah, yeah. I promise you, we are not running a fake right now. I'm not trying.

I swear to God. Dude, one guy that brought up J.C. and like the, hey, you got this guy, awesome guy, but definitely you don't want to get on his bad side. Big Dom was talking about him when we were at camp. You don't seem like the guy that Big Dom has to deal with all of the time, but how crucial is Big Dom to the Philadelphia Eagles? Big Dom is huge. He's got all the little insights on everyone.

He knows what everyone around the building is doing, who they're talking to, who they're hanging out with. He's intertwined not only with the Eagles, but like the whole city. He's in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm picking up what you're putting down, Sopranos. He might be. He might be, not confirmed. Not confirmed. That's exactly how he wants it.

He wants us guessing. It's one of those, I feel like Big Dom's like the noise could be super loud around the Eagles. The locker room, it's like it's louder than it is in the locker room. But if you want to know something, you just go up like, hey, Big Dom, do you? have this is everything kind of figured out with so and so or between these guys and just give you kind of like a nod yeah we got to take care of yeah dom's always a guy that's gonna be yeah i'm handle it i'm handling it no problem um should we do uh a bud light question yeah see budd like question all right zach people would do anything for an ice cold bud light no doubt um having a budd light

with somebody. Who is somebody that you'd love to sit down and have an ice cold bud light with, whether it's past, present, somebody that you just love to have a few beers with, some conversations, some fun. Could be anybody. Anybody. I'll keep it in the football world and I'll say, Darren Rizzy, the special teams coordinator for the Broncos. Yeah? No shit. Great dude. Great dude. Awesome dude. He was my coordinator with the Saints. Yeah. I would definitely have more than one Bud Light with him. Dude, he always had the vibes high when I was, again, there for a cup of coffee. You'd go into the special teams meeting and you guys would have shirts going on for plays that get made,

and everybody seemed to love this dude. And then when he was the interim head coach, what was it, a couple years ago where he stepped in? Yeah, last year. Yeah, last year. And out of the gate, I want to say the Saints, they ended up winning a couple games with them. It always happens with the interim head coach, except for the Titans. Just a great dude, just a great dude. Especially when it's a special teams coordinator, too.

So you two play together with the Saints. I don't know, possibly. I wasn't with you. I was like right after you. Yeah, because you were there in 2019. 2019 was when I was there in training camp for a moment. I was ready to light the world on fire, but, you know, I caught a little ankle sprain. A little ankle sprain.

Had to get that like sentence package. Yeah, they're like Alex Anzolone was down and they had, I want to say maybe a couple like inside backers that were down. So I ended up getting brought in around the third preseason game, went into the fourth preseason game to get reps at, like. like one base before we got ready for week one because they needed a base Mike Backer basically essentially until Alex Anzolone's shoulder got right. And then I went down in that fourth preseason game, which sucked because the vibes of the same seemed awesome. The locker room seemed to all time. And Rizzi, who was talking about like guys just everybody like that was a fun organization for the moment I was there. At practice was fun, everything. And then after that,

I got a little injury settlement. And then that's when they traded for Kiko Alonzo. And then Alex Zalone comes back nice with the lions like playing some good ball. Gotcha. But yeah. It seems like everyone that leaves the Saints is playing good ball right now. I know. All right. Everyone that leaves the Saints has a sea on their chest playing good football.

Yeah. And then the old guard, the captains like Cam Jordan and DeMario Davis, like they're still sticking around and it's like, fuck boys. We've got to put some good ball together right now. Two guys. Our teeth have been cut in this organization for too long. No doubt about it. Tough, tough times down there.

Zach, we. appreciate you coming on the show, man. This has been awesome. I can't wait for December when Will comes out with his all white, all black team. I'm assuming. I don't do, I don't do the other side. That's for everybody else. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry, all white team. That's right. Yeah. I think the line right now, the futures line is minus, what, 31.5. Black team? I truly, I don't think it's that deep at all. I promise you, we got a squad. And we get better each and every year. A new DB comes in the league. Yeah. Okay. Do you think that's where you're light? Always.

B department? I think, yeah, a thousand percent. I mean, think of what other position group are we potentially light in? Like, we're deep along the trenches. We got second level players. We got us, you know, tied in. We got guys like a wide receiver, surprisingly, we got some good depth there. Yeah, Puka Nakua.

He hasn't said nothing over the last couple of years. So, well, I've been able to claim him and get away with it. That's that. He's Polly, though. That's that in between. That is. It's in between. The Polly's.

the polly's our fair game. I'm thinking Polly. He was, what, a fifth round guy? Yeah. So that's easy. Grindr type of cat. Grindr mentality. Yeah.

Ran a little slower, a little slower 40. Like, just put the tape on. He's got game speed. That's when you know that's our guy. You know that's our guy. What we got to do is just filter, just filter this episode just a little bit more because right now we got Zach, we got Zach Vaughn. Yeah.

And it's going to come out and people about it. Zach, how do you feel about this? And it's up to you to be standing. You're going to be on a plane. on an away game. I know where I'm going. JC's going to come to and be like, man, what's this about? Dude, you got the ball of head.

You got a nice goatee going on. That screams. I got a Harley in the garage. Hey, Will. We like that fun. Hey, hey, we like that one. Is your hair growing back, Will? I'll show you.

It's grown back pretty well. I do have kind of the M set and it's a little lighter in the cul-de-sac here. You could land a plane on it if you wanted to. But we're coming back pretty strong. right now, in my opinion. Yeah. I like where my head's at. Are you going to grow it out?

Or was that like a test test to see if you had to shave it? My wife really wants me to grow it out, but I'll be honest. I really don't mind the short hair life. Even the bald head, I didn't mind the bald head. Look, what'd you think? Like, you're a fellow bald guy. Like, would you love me reping the bold squad? Absolutely.

It's all about the head shape. Like, if you got a solid head shape, you can, and facial hair, you can join. So you think I pull off the head shape well? I think it's solid. Once you get a little tan up top there, you'll be all right. That's the key. That's the key. Get some sunlight on it.

Dude, we appreciate you, man. Thank you for taking time on a Monday. Good luck this week. Get fucking get your guys's revenge back. Get the mojo going again. In the off season, we would absolutely love to have you on the bus so we can do a little bit more long form. We're not in the middle of the season.

Yeah. A couple things. We've got to, you know, you got to kind of, hey, we're having fun on the show, but also we're in the middle of the season. Right. But, dude, we'd love to have you on in Nashville and the off. season. Yeah, I got to get down there. Have to. That'd be sick.

All right, brother. Appreciate you, man. All right. Thanks for having me, guys. I love that. Thank you, bro. Thank you, bro. It is a pain in the ass to do this during the season, so it does mean a lot.

Yeah. Is this the first virtual one you guys have done? We've just started kind of doing virtuals. You're kind of, he's like the first player that we've had after a game virtual. We've been trying to get like college coaches will hop on. We haven't gotten any NFL coach yet, but we've kind of pivoted to where we're going to get some more virtual stuff just because people love talking football 24-7. Yeah, this season, it's either football or nothing.

If we put anything else out there other than the football, people are like, get it out of here. But yeah, you're the first player, so we appreciate you. Yeah. You guys are killing it, dude. I'm sorry, I missed you during training camp. Oh, you're good, man. All good, dude. You're good, man.

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