Bussin' With The Boys - Ed McCaffrey Says He'd Give Up His Super Bowls For Christian McCaffrey To Win One

Episode Date: February 10, 2024

Recorded: February 8th 2023 | Boys we are back with a special episode to makeup for our terrible audio episode on Tuesday. In this episode we are joined by the original "Great White Hope" and 3-time Super Bowl champion, Ed McCaffrey. He is here to give us his thoughts on his son, Christian, playing this years Super Bowl. The boys start off the episode addressing some of the stories that Christian told us during last years Super Bowl. Will and Taylor ask Ed about how he would tape Christian's jersey and that if he got jersey tackled, that he would ground Christian. They get into how Ed would take Christian out of class on game days to go get an IV during the middle of the school day along with all of the other things he made Christian do to get ready for his games. Ed tells some hilarious stories about why he did what he would do as well as some funny stories that resulted from doing these things. The boys end the pod talking about this years Super Bowl and how proud Ed is of Christian and try to get some predictions of the game. One of the final questions that they ask Ed is if he would give up his 3 Super Bowl rings just so Christian could win this game. His answer may shock you. Enjoy this special edition episode fellas! 0:00 Intro :20 The Best McCaffrey 1:20 The Number 13 Conspiracy 5:15 Happiest Dad Of All Time 6:50 The Wild Thing's The McCaffrey Kids Had To Do 15:00 Health Freak? 19:12 The Rise Of Terrell Davis 24:50 3 Is Better Than 1 28:00 49ers Family 34:07 Playing With The Greatest DB/WR Of All Time 37:40 Learning From The GOAT At WR 44:00 Winning His Super Bowls 47:02 Lawrence Taylor Tails 52:30 His Favorite Plays Of Himself 57:45 Being Called Out By A Coach 1:02:55 Super Bowl Predictions 1:04:15 Christian McCaffrey Foundation 1:08:45 Would He Give Up His Super Bowls So That Christian Would Win This One?For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You know, it varies by the day. My wife and I joke around about it. It's whoever happens to call us back to quick. on that particular day. Really? So you're kind of like Dion. Or whoever's got something pretty important coming up.

So last week was Luke, my youngest son. He's played in the senior bowls, getting ready for the combine. This week, Christian's got a pretty good game coming up here, right? Who's consistently at the top of the charts? It varies, man. It varies.

You know, obviously you love all your kids the same, but there's some that you're more happy with in any particular point in time. Yeah. And so right now they're all good. Yeah, they're all on the good list right now. You got to love that, dude. It's got to be hard juggling those three kids at all times.

Got four, right? got four brothers. Max is the oldest. Damn it. Then you got Christian. Well, I was trying to follow your math. Five plus eight is 13.

And now I thought maybe there's something to your math with three kids. Do you want to hear that? You know, occasionally I have forgotten one of my kids in the past. I accidentally left him in the car for a couple of seconds, forgetting they were falling asleep in the car seat, lost him in a store one time.

So, hey, you know, all is forgiven. I appreciate that. Yeah. Do you know why we were talking about the number 13? Because that's how many years I played in the NFL. Of course, it's not about me. Now, what? 13.

Nice. That's a nice. That's a good reference for it. know Brock Pretty's number. What are we talking? I'm trying to follow this math. So the whole conspiracy, obviously you know Taylor Swift, you know, she is dating somebody on the opposing team that you're saying. I'm aware of it. I've been, yeah, I've heard reports. The Swifties have like come up with this crazy conspiracy theory that Taylor Swift's favorite number, well, they know her favorite number is 13. And obviously, Super Bowl 58, five plus eight is 13, 49ers, four plus nine is 13. Wow.

49ers are the one seed, chiefs of the three seed, 13. Taylor Swift, if she goes to the game, it'll be her 13th appearance at a Chiefs game. If she makes it back from Tokyo to Vegas for the Super Bowl, it's roughly a 13-hour flight. Right. So it's kind of... Right. A lot of things are stacked up against your son right now.

Was there a movie? I don't think it was 13. Was it 23 with Jim Carrey? Remember that? There was a movie where they started connecting the dots. It's like, well, you know, 12 and then ate one bagel, and that's 13. And they just started making all these random connections that mean absolutely nothing.

Yeah. But it's fun to talk about. The 13 killer is wearing a 9-1. I know a lot of hotels don't have a 13th floor. That's true. Right. Which is odd too because really, you know. You know if you go one level above the 12th floor.

Yes. They use it for storage or something. Yeah. It's there. It's a whole thing. Have you, what's your thought process on Taylor Swift right now? You anti Taylor Swift because of the week? You know, my wife is like her biggest fan.

And nobody has supported her relationship with Travis Kelsey more than my wife. Defending her and Travis to people who are the football people that don't want to mix entertainment and football. I'm like, look, football is entertainment. It's live entertainment. It's real. But those two worlds have collided, and there's no going back. And it looks like they're happy and healthy. Like I'm in Andy Reid's camp, but it comes to that.

They're happy and healthy. More power to them. But Lisa has so many Taylor Swift songs on her playlist when she goes jogging every day and actually bought this piece of artwork from Stephen Wilson, this really cool artist that she likes. It was a whole Taylor Swift piece of art that hangs in our piano room. But, you know, not listen to as much music this week. I'm going to put it on the cabosh for about a week.

Is your wife aware? And then we'll go right back to listening to it. Look, she's one of the greatest artists in the world. She puts together. She puts great. She's great for the end. One week ban. Is that too much to ask?

Is that wrong? If you ask a Swifty fan, I bet you they say yes. Is it okay? Is your wife aware that the government kind of set up their relationship? She's not aware of that conspiracy theory. You guys are into the conspiracy theory. So it's just one. The conspiracy theory is like the whole idea behind them.

Like people who truly buy in and it's like there's lizard people down in the sewers of Washington, D.C. Yeah. To me, I'm not like subscribing to that. I'm not like buying in buying the t-shirts, but I do love the conversation. I love the idea of being like, JFK, inside, big foot. 9-11 was an inside job. It's like, oh, my God, let's dive into this a little bit.

I love to hear people passionately tell me why. This is a real thing, and then loki buy it towards the end. I think I saw one of those lizard people in a field trip I took in eighth grade. So there may be truth to that one. Well, you haven't heard about 13. Yeah, live in Colorado. Oh, if you walk through the airport? Oh, yeah.

through DIA in Colorado, they brag about it. They got little weird sculptures and signs all over the place. I mean, the Denver airport's a little. It's kind of shaped like a whale. There's talk about underground facilities. I mean, there's like the conspiracy because they have all that land surrounding the airport. What do they do out there? A bunch of billionaires own real estate out there.

And it's said that they have bunkers in that area. It's pretty bizarre. When you start to look at some of the artwork and some of the science, and they kind of have embraced it. We got our evil blue horse with the red eyes outside the airport. Have you seen that thing? It's kind of cool. But, you know, is there something to it or not? not maybe they're like just trying to be so obvious about it but it really exists i don't know as a as an

athlete growing up you have the 13 year career that you have like when you're younger and you talk about you know i want to have sons i want them to be like me i want to be athletes and now it's transpired CMC we know what he's in you just mentioned luke being at the senior bowl getting ready for a combine you have to be you have to feel good fully grown knowing that your offspring or basically succeeding journey. Yeah, you know, as a parent, you know, you want your kids to be happy and healthy. Whether they play football or do anything else, you want them to be happy and healthy, chase their dreams. It just so happens all four of our boys ended up playing football. And it's been Christian's dream to play in the NFL and then eventually playing a Super Bowl, his whole life.

So as a parent, whether your kid's a musician or an artist or they're into, they're an engineer, or whatever they do, right? You just want him to be happy. And so I'm happy because he's happy. it seems like that's a very well-polished PC answer that you would give to anybody who's having it's, hey, as long as they're happy and healthy, they can do whatever they want. But based on our conversation with Christian, it seemed like it was football or nothing.

Really? In the McAfree household. You heard the story. It so wasn't football or nothing. No, look, we always ask them to, I don't even know, I've heard this one, but whatever they're doing, be the best at that. Right, we're big in like, you are what you do.

Right? And if you do something, you are how you do it. So if you're going to do something, do it to the best of your ability. So we've always emphasized that, but it didn't have to be. Football could have been anything. Like there was a couple of times where maybe they wanted to take a season off of not playing a sport. And we're like, great, get a job. I don't care what you do.

Get a job. Join the chess club. Anything you want to do. But you're not just going to sit around doing nothing. So, you know, you are what you do. Go do something. And when you do it, be the best you can. When you play a team sport, no matter what it is, you got other people that are dependent on you.

And I think those are good lessons when you're young. Yeah, but the approach of which, I mean, Christian, he did bring up, you get, you get tackled by your jersey. Grounded. That's players. No sodas. That's a player safety. That's your player safety.

He told the stories of you walking on the woods and finding a crushed soda can and coming back and be like, hey, what do we got here? I'm sure everything's been embellished, man. My kids tell stories about me. I don't know how much of it's true or not. I hope most of it is not true. But look, you know, it's like, hey, the carbonation while you're playing and sugary drinks, you know, just limit them during the season before you play a game. tape in the jersey like horse collar used to be a thing there was no horse collar that was just a tackle people used to grab you by your jersey and drop on the back of your legs that's a dangerous play they outlawed it in the NFL right they're even talking about having that drop tackle hip drop yeah hip drop right so for me it was player safety I saw a kid in little league get hurt pretty bad someone grabbed a back of his jersey and then body dropped on the back of his legs broke the kid's leg and I'm like I don't want that happening to my kid you know what from now on you're going to have your jersey taped down you will never get jersey tackled and if you ever do you know you're you're going to hear about it for me, but I'm the one taping it.

Grounded. Do you ever get your jersey tape? You got them taped, right? Oh, yeah, absolutely. So you know the advantage of having your jersey tape. And at lineman, you don't want guys grabbing you and you don't want to get beat. But when you're a running back or a ball carrier,

you don't want to get grabbed and tackled from behind and potentially hurt. But if you've ever watched your equipment manager have to tape your pads for you. I hope you thanked them because it's a thankless job. It is not fun, two-way tape in a jersey. And I did it for all four my boys all the time. So did you ever?

I swear to you, I swear many more touchdowns, because of that because I've countless clips of people trying to grab for the jersey and slipping off you're the reason for their success not at all did you ever but I was the reason they didn't get jersey tackled yeah did they did they did they ever get grounded for getting jersey tackled um I think Christian did once yeah or at least seriously reprimanded and then he seriously reprimanded he told the car right home no AC during the summer and no speaking yeah windows rolled it was one of those like once we got in the car I didn't have to say anything he already knew right there was a couple I didn't even say a word we just drove home in silence

Hey, that's such a, that's a good dad. Yeah, you know him as a dad too. Like if they play baseball, it's like, hey, no swimming on game day. Yeah. Of all those little things you're not allowed to do. And you, so, I mean, obviously you play 13 years in the NFL. You were known for being like one of the greatest blocking wide receivers of all time, a tough guy that would lay out over the middle, make acrobatic catches.

When you start having sons, is there, like, a thought process of like, do I need to instill this type of toughness in them? or did they come out of the womb fighting? Well, luckily, I think that was just their mentality early on. They were serious competitors. They competed with each other. I think it's good to have four brothers in the same house. So they compete with each other. They compete with their friends.

And then in games, yeah, they were super competitive. Lisa, my wife, super competitive. She was an athlete. And, you know, again, it's just, if you're going to do something, be the best you can at it, right? Why go through the motions? And so they were always kind of wired that way.

It was expected of them, but I really never had to nudge him too much in terms of being competitive. ever a moment they like stub their toe and you're like come on man you're better than this they're crying no i have a six-year-old daughter and she stubs her toe and i have that feeling yeah you're look at it's fine and i don't say that out loud but i feel it internally i take i i still my toe in my hotel room on the table and i thought it broke my toe and i was giving myself that talk yeah yeah dude it's all right you've played in the n-fell you're tougher than this stop winding over your stub toe but i think

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during school for them to get an IV? Yeah, a lot's been made about this whole IV thing. Yeah, I did. But not every game. So I did it for night game. So the first high school game, they played at night, right? Can you guys remember back in high school? It wasn't that long ago, right?

You got to actually go to class. Right. Like, you're up at like six in the morning. You're lucky to eat something before you leave the house. You're on your feet all day. You're eating cafeteria lunch. Then you got another three, four hours. And then you don't come home.

after school. You really don't have a proper dinner. And you're on your feet all day going to class and walking around. Like, can you imagine the NFL? Like, hey, put in eight hours and then let's go play the game. No, we don't do that. Right? We're in the NFL. It's all about ball. So at night, a lot of the kids on the team would cramp up. Like, they're playing under the lights. They've been on their feet all day. And they're dehydrated. They didn't eat or drink properly. And so, you know, Christian cramped in the first night game he played in. I'm like, all right, you know, you're dehydrated. I'd like to think you'd drink enough fluids throughout the day. But it's hard to do. And he's like, you know, he's in on offense, on defense, on special teams.

He didn't come off the field. So he's one of those guys. It's not like you're playing 50 snaps. You might be playing 115 snaps. And in the beginning of the summer, it's hot. I mean, in the beginning of the school, you're right in August. It's, you know, 90 degrees or 80-some degrees. So, yeah, when he cramped up, I'm like, you know, let's get an IV.

And he never cramped up ever again after getting IVs. You're welcome. I will say this. Hey, you got to love the philosophy. We did have. Internally, like, sat in a room by himself and like, all right, this is what we got to We did have one bad experience where I regret it in my decision to get him an IV. It was before a state championship game.

And I'm like, you know, by this time, you know how it is. If you think it works, it works. But I think IVs do work. But this wasn't a night game. It was like an afternoon game. Probably didn't need the IV. But he's like, are we going to get an IV? I'm like, yeah, we're getting the IV.

I'm like, he's going to be locked in, right? He's going to feel like Superman getting this IV with electrolytes. It's just a basic, you know, saline solution electrolytes. Whatever, no big deal. But our doctor that we went to was out of town. So I'm like, you know, they got IV places all over the place. We just went to like a strip mall, like outside IV place. And like this place will do.

How hard is it to give an IV, right? It's not too difficult. So we go in there, no problem. We'll set him up. We'll get him the IV. I'm kind of on my phone texting. He's like, hey, dad, dad, I look over. He's got like a softball size lump in his arm.

Went through the vein? Well, they didn't hit the vein at all. They were pumping saline underneath his skin and it was just swelling up. And I'm like, oh my gosh. So I call the nurse practitioner and she comes in and she said, oh, it's okay. It's just saluted. and starts pressing down on it to get it to go away. And so my heart rate is up a little bit because I'm like, we got a game in a few hours.

Like this is the day of the state championship. She's like, I'll try. I'll try it again, right? I'll try it again. I'm like, I'm a little nervous because I'm like, I don't know these people. And, you know, it's an outdoor strip mall. I don't know how it shouldn't be that hard. So she tries it again.

And dude, she hits a vein and blood, it's literally splattered up to the ceiling. There's blood splattering everywhere. And I'm having a panic attack now. I'm like, oh my gosh, like he's going to be low on blood and forget the IV. Like, he's losing blood. It splattered all the way up to the ceiling. And the look on his eyes was just sheer shock. Like, what just happened?

So I'm like, we're good. We're good. You know, let's just go. So, you know, he's still got this lump that's slowly going down, you got blood on the ceiling. I'm like, oh, my, it's like we have a game in a couple hours. So we're out of here. So we leave, didn't get the IV.

And Christian makes fun of me because he's like a believer in me, right? He's like, dad got me the IV. This is going to help me. and we get in the car and he's like well we're going to go somewhere else for the IV and I'm like no dude it's it's really all in your mind it's overrated just drink a lot of gator yeah yeah drink a lot of gatorade yeah it'll be fine that is incredible drink a lot of body armor actually is what you should be yeah yeah oh nice plug by the way zero no this stuff is delicious I love body armor do you uh you still follow like a lot of like health things and you kind of dive into like the biohacking world at all um I wouldn't say biohacking but I I do get my blood levels tested every year and I want to make sure that my hormones are balanced and my blood levels are balanced and also you know you get in your 50s guys you guys are still so young man I love hanging out with Christian's friends by the way this is cool um but but you know you get older unfortunately I don't have all my friends with me man some of it so early detection is important

getting yourself tested is important and feeling good man leave healthy as long as you can you know you guys heard the horror stories about former football players and all the difficult physical challenges they have. And so, yeah, man, get tested often and early and do everything you can to feel good. Was it when you were, you talk about like, you know, guys who stopped playing football and they kind of go downhill a little bit.

But like when you played, a lot of the rules have changed since then. A lot of like a lot of bigger hits and stuff. Was there ever a point where you started seeing maybe some of your former teammates going downhill? We were like, I got to make sure I can do everything I possibly can than not, for this not to happen to me. Absolutely.

And so obviously, you hear all the talk about head trauma. I think a lot of athletes also, you know, the rules are different. They protect players a little bit better, but it's still a collision sport. You know that, right? You know, there's drug and alcohol abuse. There's depression. There's all kind of things that former players go through once they retire. I think today's players are so much better educated.

They've heard the stories of players that came before them. They understand how important is to take care of the body. You're looking in phenomenal shape, man. How much weight have you lost? 60 pounds. 60 pounds, right? And so all the linemen I played with, our team's lost a bunch of weight and gotten. Not all of them.

Not all of them are with us, but a lot of them got in shape. They knew that, look, I got to lose weight and be at a healthy weight and feel good. I want to feel good moving around. I want to be healthy and I want to live a long time. So you're proactive about it, right? Not everyone is. Some people, you know, it's drugs, alcohol, it's eating too much food, getting overweight, and just being overweight alone causes a lot of problems.

But I think today's athletes understand it. I think they do a better job, especially Lyman, and taking care of themselves once they retire. Yeah, it's unique with offensive linemen. It seems like every offensive lineman kind of goes this way. and then the running backs and receivers and corners keep eating the same way and they see them like it flips a little bit right

yeah and so were you a weight gainer or a weight loser I was I was a weight gain guy always you always had to gain weight my first weighing at Michigan I was 254 pounds oh wow you're redshirting because you had all the weight and I would do you know wake up 3 a.m. have like pasta like a chicken alfredo from like a pizza hut yeah and like scarf that down and go do a workout at 6 a.m. throw that up and then they're just like

shoveling food in me over and over again. So when I did inevitably stop playing, it became like, oh, this is easy. I'll just start shedding the weight, and it came off relatively fast. Yeah, I have that argument with a lot of different people. My brother was a kid who was real skinny, and he was a basketball player, and he always had to gain weight, and he's like, dude, it's so much harder to gain weight than to lose weight. And I'm like, I think it's harder to lose weight, because I was like 238 in high school and had to lose weight to play receiver, even going into the NFL, probably played at 220, 222. So I was constantly trying to lose weight. And so for me, I always thought it was harder to lose weight, but it's a healthy

debate in the NFL to be elite at your position, you need to be at least within a range. Some guys have to gain, some have to lose, but I think the ones that end up healthier were the lighter ones that had to gain. Even though it's hard to do for you, you gain the weight, it's easier to shed it because you see some guys gain 100 pounds, and you're right.

I know DBs and receivers that put on 100 pounds. They don't even look like the same person. It's just not healthy. Yeah, one guy that comes to my mind is, you remember DeNard Robinson from Michigan? Yeah, yeah. We're looking a little thick now. I'll call Dinar, and I love my boy. I love Dinar, but, you know, he stays on a little bit now.

I feel this pain, man, because I need to be lighter than I am, but at one point I was way, you know, 30 pounds heavier than this. And I'm thinking, you know, I don't feel good moving around. It's harder to work out. And you just know it's not healthy. You put yourself at risk of so many different illnesses and diseases. And like, I want to be around. I'm watching my kids play ball.

I'm watching, you know, my wife is in great shape and energetic. I mean, I got to keep up. Keep up. You're on busing with the boys. I want to be around for me. Yeah. You got a gym around. I'm still hanging out with my son's friends.

Yeah. Just chilling on the most comfortable bus. Yeah. Sat in over here. Which way is Terrell Davis went? He's in great shape. Really? You've seen him lately?

No. Oh, TD? Yeah. I ran into him in Colorado. Oddly enough, I was walking across the street. And he like sped his car up and hunked the horn. I thought I was going to get hit. I was just TD messing with me.

Yeah. Just saw him in the middle of the street. Screamed out white lightning. Yeah. And then I said, you know, I cleared some traffic. for him like I took pride in doing when he was playing. But no, he's chiseled. Dude, how about his the way he started in the league? Like kickoff, right? Like special teams? I was there, man. He was like the sixth string running back. And I felt sorry for him. I didn't really know him. Like,

there's his backup. He was a late round draft pick out of Georgia. And he was sixth string. And they were, you know, back then, if you were a scout team running back, that's the worst job in football. Like, here's the first string defense. We're going to practice our stuff. And let's put the third string line in in training camp and run our six string running back behind him on every plane he was getting tattooed like just annihil it and if he does well it's like no come back run it again yeah oh no it's what we're doing boys you're gonna get this way going it's all set up for the defense so i i didn't even know him and i felt sorry for him and then one by one kind of like your story right guys start going down guys start getting hurt we were in Tokyo japan playing the 49ers and he almost left

if he spoke japanese he would have left but he went down to the lobby tried to asked for cab. They weren't understanding what he was trying to say. He was like, okay, forget about it. He was going to leave. He was literally going to leave Tokyo. He was like, with six string, he's getting killed in practice. He's like, I'm not going to make the team.

There's no way. And then he made that play on special teams. I think something clicked. He's like, look, I don't care. I'm just going to hit somebody. Flew down on the kickoff team, blew somebody up. Next thing, you know, a couple guys go down. He's the starter.

He's a Hall of Fame running back. But he was that close to leaving the team, that close. That's a wild sound. Yeah, I've never heard that part of it. Have you seen the play? No, I haven't in the play. I mean, he just folds this dude. Flies.

And then, like, if you do, whether it's the NFL films or something out there, they, like, kind of talks about it or his story. Maybe it's a football life. I don't know if he has one. But everybody's like, you know, turn their head like, yo, who is that? Was that Terrell Davis? Like, who's that kid? Yeah.

And then he, yeah, freaking goes on. It was like the start of his whole thing. Yeah. Origin story. Back when you could get like the, you know, you could do like big running starts on kickoff, right? Oh, yeah. Like not even, now you got to stand there. I think that was five yards.

And that was. that one might have been like 10, right? Yeah, you could get more than that. You could go back as far as you wanted, but usually you were 10 just to time it up, right? Yeah. But that was like a whole training camp worth of just anger and pain and hostility that he took out on that one play, which really changed the court. I think he would have been great no matter what, but for the Broncos, it changed the

course of his career. Wasn't Shannon Sharp a similar story? He had to play special teams a whole bunch? Shannon was a really good tight end. He was already an all-pro tight-in when I got to the Broncos. So I know, was he undrafted or late-round pick? He was a late round week, but I thought he was like a core four guy. He did.

He didn't make his hay that way in the beginning. He definitely didn't get fat. He might not. Have you seen him? I just saw him today, man. He got bigger and stronger than he wasn't. Yeah. Yeah, he's in, modern medicine, man.

You know, I like to try to make it, I'm getting older. I try to make excuses for not being in better shape than I see Shannon. I'm like, oh, you're killing me, dude. Yeah. You're killing me. That dude. We were at a party last Super Bowl. He's always been that way.

Yeah. Yeah. Seventh round big. Yeah. We were at a party last Super Bowl and he was there. And obviously, Shan, he's a fantastic personality. He's crushing life on so many different platforms right now. But he was at that party, and he's wearing a shirt that he knows is a size too small for him.

And he looked, you got into stare at him like, bro, you look amazing. He's an action figure. Yeah. He literally looks like an action figure. It's... How fun was he to be around training camp? You see this stuff with the Ravens, but I'm sure he just has that personality. He was so fun.

It's like you guys, you guys are naturals on the podcast. Like when he's out there talking, that's him. He was that way in the locker room. He was always cracking. jokes, making fun of people's clothes and having fun. And, you know, I was always a more serious guy, but I loved Shannon. And we had this guy, Keith Burns, and they'd play off each other a little bit and crack jokes.

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And that is a guarantee. Back to the episode. As, let's just say hypothetically, the 49ers win the Super Bowl. How long do you wait until you tell your son you have two more than him? Oh, I will never say that. You know, I never, you know, I'll be so happy first off if that happens. I will be the happiest person on the planet. I might be happier than Christian for him and for the 49ers.

This, you know, obviously I love Christian. He's my son. This has been a dream of his. But also, this team feels like family to me. There's connections with the coaches and the general manager that goes back into my college days. So that would be incredible. But I never, you know, having played football in Denver and with my kids playing football, I don't have any Lombardi trophies.

My rings were in safety deposit box. I never wanted them to have to think that's what I need to be able to do to be successful. Yeah. And it doesn't mean that's right or wrong answer. I'm just like, whatever they do, it's their experience. It's not about me. It's about them. I'm here to love them and support them.

If they have football questions for me, I'll help them as much as they can. Get them with the IVs, tape up their jersey. Why are you wearing jeans at school? Yeah, yeah. Exactly. But it's really about. What weights in the socks when they weigh in there. that a little more.

I interjected a little bit. But on the field, you know, it was their experience. So I wanted them to feel that way and I didn't want to set these ridiculous expectations. And not that it would have mattered, I think, because I think they have high expectations for themselves. But, you know, now I'm older. I'm like, I hope you do win. So I can maybe put up one of those.

Be proud to have one of those. Yeah, man. Yeah. One day. How awesome. Like, you alluded to it. Like, the 49ers feels like fame with a lot of connections. Like John Lynch, the Shannon.

to Shanahan's, you guys, like, it has to be just surreal that it's your son, coach Mike Shanahan's son, your, you know, your former teammate and John Lynch, like you guys are all kind of rocking the same team. Like, how sick is that? Boys are back together. Yeah, man. No, I just have so much respect for those guys you just mentioned. I mean, they are the real deal, right?

I mean, John Lynch was a teammate of mine at Stanford. He was played quarterback. I caught passes from him, and he was the real deal going back that far before he switched to safety. far off the difference in age. Maybe two years maybe. Okay. Yeah and he switched to safety after I graduated but I mean he was the real deal back then like a true pro already in college. One of those guys like in college this guy already has his act together. Yeah. Not everybody does. Um, but so much respect for him and then Kyle Shanahan watching him grow up and, you know, future

Hall of Fame coach Mike Shanahan just had such an important impact on my life and our families are close and then, you know, Brian Greasy was my quarterback and Bobby T's a legend and running back. and Anthony Lynn's my teammate. That's right. Incredible running backs coach and the Kubiak kids are over there. And I mean, you know, if you could go back and remember high school ball where you knew all those connections. You knew all the families, right? It's like, oh, you're all there, you know, tailgating and you know everybody.

That's what it feels like in the NFL. And I think that's rare. Like, unless you're on the team. Right. Like to be a parent and feel like I know everybody. Oh, that's a one of one feeling. It's such a cool feeling. It is, dude.

Like, you're a player experiencing that stuff. And now you're at this, you're, you know, you're a parent now, like, coming back to it. And you're just like, yo, what a life. I would be embarrassed when my dad would come to the games and meet the coaches and be like, hey, so how's my son doing? I'm like, that shut up to get the car. Come on, man. Let's go. You're probably hanging out with them, chopping it up, and they're just like, oh, this is one of us.

Because, you know, dad, it's like, hey, proud of your son. He's doing a great job. You kind of hit him with the basics as a coach. But with you, it's like they can probably give you a little more inside ball and talk a little bit more, knowing you understand the craft as well. And they know your personality. And he has the connections with GM coaches, head coaches, played with them. Like, that is really special. So with all that, all like this family style thing with the 49ers,

when Christian's playing for the Panthers and that trade, you see the trade finally happened from the Panthers, the 49ers. Like, what's your reaction? Yeah, I was ecstatic because I know Kyle Shanahan, I know what an incredible coach he is. And then I looked at the roster and I'm like, dude, this team is littered with talent. And I knew about all the guys we just mentioned, Anthony Lynn and Bobby T and Brian Greasy and the Kuwax. And all the other guys on the coaching staff.

And I'm like, this is a perfect situation for you. Kyle's going to know how to use you. He's a phenomenal coach. You know, you have a ton of other talent around you. You're going to get to be part of a great organization. I played for the 49ers. It's an incredible organization from Jed York on down. And so Lisa and I were static. Plus, we went to Stanford. It's in the Bay Area. I'm like, this is incredible for us. Easy flight from Denver. But Christian, you know, he's a team guy. He's like a loyal guy. Whoever his team is, those are his guys. He's a boy's boy. Yeah. So he was like, you know, hey, these are my guys. And I've lived here for five and a half years. And I know, I know. I know. our family is history, but I don't really, you know, Kyle. I was four during Super Bowl 33 running around in the confetti. And so Lisa, I were super excited about it. But then one of the first things he did was he had a meeting with Kyle. Those guys got together and talked for like an hour and a half. And Christian asked him a lot of questions. You know, why did you trade for me? How are you going to use me? He wanted to find out, you know, what his mindset was and how he viewed the game and him as a player. And Coach Shanahan, Kyle did the same thing. He's like, look, this is why we brought you in.

let me get to know you a little bit because even though our families had this history you know when you're four and another kids in high school you don't know each other so it was really like their first time getting to know each other and I thought that was pretty mature both of them it's like hey let's get to know each other I'll forget all this talk about our families man to man this is you and me let's find out what we're all about and after an hour hour and a half meeting I mean Christian called me up and said hey I'm in the right place this is this is awesome this was the place for me did you have any tip off or hint that That was in the works before it happened?

No. Lisa actually did a podcast with her friend Ashley and they brought on Peggy Shanahan and they joked around about the trade a few days before it happened. But we didn't know any more than anybody else. We're following social media. It could be the Rams. Could be the 49ers. You know, if you're an organization, you're not going to show your hand because you're in a bidding war with other teams. So nobody's going to tell anybody anything.

So we were very happy when we heard the news. That is awesome. That fires me up. Should we dive into the glory days of the Broncos? Yes. A question before we do get to those two Super Bowls in a row, like your first one was with the Niners, but you're with the Niners for a year. And do you feel like this is not, I'm not trying to, this is going to sound disrespectful.

But I know it was one of your lower statistical years. Did you get injured during that year with the 49ers? Yeah, because I was going to start over Jerry Rice, but then I had an, I tweaked my ankle, I think, in training. No. Look, I played for the New York Giants and I got there during a time that had a lot of adversity. Bill Parcells was my coach. I love getting the call from him on draft day. Hey, we drafted a third round. This is when camp starts. We'll see you there. Oh, it wasn't the red carpet treatment you get today, right? And I had to wait around on a rotary phone to find out if I was drafted because the television coverage didn't coverage every round. I was a third round draft pick.

So I didn't even know. We were off the television coverage. And then when I got there, he got, you know, Coach Parcells gave a great speech about how we just won the Super Bowl, so we don't really need any of you guys, but hopefully one or two of you can make the team and contribute. And so it was not a red carpet treatment. It was kind of shocking. Like, whoa, like I got drafted, but there's no guarantee. And back then, you'd see second and third round picks cut. Like, you weren't guaranteed to make the team just because you were drafted.

Fortunately, I made the team, but unfortunately, Bill Parcell stepped down. And he had some hard issues as it was reported and stepped down. And then, you know, we were one of the oldest teams. We just won a Super Bowl. A lot of guys started retiring. switching teams, new ownership and then new coaches and then new players and just all this adversity. So, you know, I love that team. Like, I'm a team guy too. Like, I love my teammates from the Giants. And we had, but then we had a coaching change and I got cut. And when I got cut,

it was a wake-up call. I'm like, man, I'm going to go to business school or law school. I don't know what I'm going to do. Like, I think I'll make a team, but I just got cut, so I don't know. And I thought, what do I want? You know, what kind of team do I want to go to? I'm a free agent. I got like four or five teams to choose from. And I'm like, I want to win a Super Bowl. I want to go to a team that has a chance to win a Super Bowl. So I took the league minimum and went out to San Francisco. I'm like, I'm going to try out for this team.

And there were 14 receivers, and they take four. Like imagine a team that only takes four receivers this year. But it's Jerry Rice, John Taylor. They had won Super Bowls already, right? Those were the starters. And there's a lot of 21 personnel. They didn't play a ton of three receivers. And then it was me and Nate Singleton.

But, you know, those guys feel like brothers to me. I was there seven months. like Bart Oats who started at right tackle, like allowed me to ship all my boxes to his house, took us in like we were family. Steve Young was incredible to me, got to learn from Jerry Rice. I see those guys this year.

It's like a reunion every home game at the 49ers. I'm dapping people up all my old teammates. I'm like, and it seems like yesterday. But I was backing up Jerry, so I didn't get on the field a lot. In the Super Bowl, I got in for a couple plays. Jerry dinged his shoulders, one of his shoulders. And I get in the game and I'm thinking,

I'm going to Disney World, man. Like I had one quick catch. for five yards and like I'm just getting heated up like I may be the one going to Disney world and then of course Jerry comes back and I go back to the sideline I think I had a special team tackle on kickoff but I was around I mean we had 14 pro bowl players we had the offensive player there in Steve Young the defensive player the year and Deion Sanders so I went against every day in practice so I'm backing up Jerry Rice the greatest receiver of all time and going against Dion greatest DB of all time for a whole year and I really think I got way

better because of learning behind Jerry and competing against Dion. And then that kind of set the tone for the rest of my career with the Broncos. Is that work ethic of Jerry Rice as sickening as it's portrayed? It absolutely is. He had this hill that he used to run. And the thing that was just amazing about him is his conditioning. And you don't always think about like your endurance, like football's kind of an anaerobic sport. It's sprint, stop, sprint stop, sprint stop. But he wouldn't slow down in the fourth quarter. and he could run for days. We had this rule in San Francisco, which we continued in Denver, where if you're a receiver, you had to catch it and finish 40 yards.

And it's like, okay, 40 yards, right? So that means catch it and run a little bit and then stop. No, they had 40 yards. They had a cone for 40 yards. You had to sprint 40 yards after every reception. Nobody does that, but he would do it every time. And if we were not across midfield, Jerry would sprint to the end zone. So we literally had to start moving our drill closer to the end zone from the 40s.

so he would get back to the huddle in time for the next play, because he would score on every play. He did it all the time for the whole practice all year long. And I'm thinking his conditioning level is off the charts. He just doesn't get tired. So that was one of his greatest skill sets. His other greatest skill set was getting off the ball quickly. Nobody got off the line off the snap count faster than him.

It was like he timed it, and it was almost simultaneous. As soon as the ball even twitched, he was already off the line. So if he was a four or five guy and there was a four or three guy, he'd beat him five yards down the field because he was off the, off the line quicker. And then the other thing was after he caught the ball, he would catch it and turn up field instantly. So like all the angles for defenders,

you're trying to, he's going to catch it, then he's going to like maybe a little hesitation and then try to go up field. It was seamless. Like catch and go, catching go. So all those shallow crosses and short routes. And I'm like, man,

I want to be more like that. And then he would make routes his own. Like I was always thinking, run the route exactly the way the coach tells you to run the route. Right? And then I'd say, well, Jerry didn't run that exactly the way the coach drew it up. Right?

He ran a comeback, but he kind of bent it in on a post, and then the next time he kind of bent out and stemmed it up. I'm like, he's getting open every time, but he's like three different ways to run the same route. And so I started copying some of that stuff, and it worked. So, yeah, that was a great year for me. It was a fun year.

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you know makes a pro bowl great wide receiver he's like our only threat at the time in 2014 2015 and then the next tight end would come up and do the same thing and he would just get chewed out like you need to run the route correctly did you ever run into anything like that? Well no I'm having a flashback now I actually the first time I stole a route from Jerry was I was playing with the Giants and we played them in the playoffs and I got in the game but I was watching film to get ready for the game with New York but also watching their offense as well I was just watching a lot of film so I watched Jerry on their team run a comeback route the way I just described where we kind of took it a little bit the posting came back out of it and so I ran it that way against the 49ers

and I was going against Merton Hanks, who was an all-pro or at least pro-ball cornerback. And it worked. I got open and it worked. I'm like loving it. And I actually got yelled out by my coach for running it that way after the game. We lost the game. But I had a great game. And those routes worked.

So when I got there, maybe that influenced me to go there. I'm like, I want to learn from this dude. I think I can up my game. I started copying everything that I could. But not every coach will allow you to do that, right? I mean, some coaches are like you've got to run it a certain way. But I think the best coaches know to get open. against the elite defenders, you have to make the route your own.

If you just run a corner route, you know, you push it 10 to 12 and break straight to the corner, some dude's just going to run right next to you the whole time. If you don't create some kind of separation at the top of the stem or make it look like another route, these dudes are too good, right? And so I really help, I think it helped me become, grow from a good player to, you know, a great player, maybe. You brought up how like you guys lost a game, but you played well. How difficult it is as a player for people watching, like, when your team loses,

but you play amazing, like kind of trying to suppress that kind of happy feeling that I went off. Yeah. No, you guys know the game, right? So, I mean, for me, you know, some people play because of the thrill of victory and other people play from the fear of failure. It's like, I don't want to disappoint the guys on my team. Like, no matter, whether we win or lose, as long as I can leave this game and they know I gave them everything, that's going to have to be enough.

Like, I gave you everything I had. You guys know that. You watched the film. I gave great effort. I did the best I could, man. Like, no matter what happens, you guys. you guys know that. That was the most important thing to me. My teammates know that I gave them everything I had. Win, lose, or draw. It held nothing back. That's all I got for you. I gave you

everything. That's the most important thing. You want to win because it's so much more fun to celebrate, but, you know, it's the respect to your teammates, man, that means everything. Yeah. Is it true? I would hear that there were old war stories and maybe they're just old tall tales, but Dionne Sanders would tie his hands behind his back when trying to cover and trying to work and get better against Jerry Rice. Is that true or false? I can't say it never happened. I didn't see it happen, but I can't say that it never happened. That's a great way to... Fair answer. It's a great answer. Yeah. I bet those battles were just, you know, fun to watch. Like knowing Dion Prime Time, the style he is.

Are you surprised with his success as a head coach? Not at all, man. He's a competitor. He's incredibly smart football coach. And, you know, I really cherish that opportunity to go against him in practice every year. I remember at one point, you know, I actually had sprained my ankle in this charity basketball game. I warn my kids all the time, by the way, you know, don't goof around doing stupid stuff during the season yet. I learned the hard way because I played in a basketball game, spray my ankle, probably one of the reasons I got cut by the Giants in hindsight. And then I go and, you know, I have it all wrapped up like in a cast. And like as a receiver, maybe it's a little easier to get away when you're a lineman, but as a receiver, you need full ankle flexion to run.

And so I'm in this cast and, you know, they're doing everything. They're putting like emu oil on it, like maybe the root inflammation, whatever they can do. do. And it was like 120 degrees in Rockland, California at training camp. And I'm walking out there and like just in this cast, there's 14 receivers. Like first they put me in a bunk bed with like eight dudes. There's like eight dudes in a room in bunks like the size of this. I'm like, I had to go up to George Schaefer and say, dude, if you want to cut me, cut me. But I'm not going to stay in a room full of bunk beds with a bunch of dudes that I know are going to be here. And I thought he was going to cut me on the spot. But he moved me into my own room. It was nice.

That's a good power play. I swear to you, I thought I was going to get cut. But I'm walking out to practice, I'm like, look, I'm in these bunk beds, I'm in a cast. I got to go into Dion Sanders in this boot that I'm wearing every day. And I thought, you know what? If I beat him on one slant route, I'll tell my kids about it for the rest of my life. You know what I mean? Like just in practice, forget the game. And so that was kind of the mentality he had. So I took pride and going against him. He made me a lot better. I'd like to think that I didn't let him take plays off in practice. And I think that's why we won a Super Bowl and had such a great team. And it was the same, same with Jerry. Like I remember we would run sprints. And I was always fresher.

because he played a whole game, right? I mean, like 10 plays in the game, some special teams. I'm fresh on Monday. And so we do conditioning. I just, you know, sometimes I just go full speed just to piss them off. Then he'd start going full speed. We did that before the Super Bowl one year. You know, it's like end of one of the practice and we're conditioning just to get a little

extra running in light. But I'm like, I'm feeling good, man. Like, I don't play that much. I'm feeling great. So I just take off full speed. And so the next rep we do, Jerry and John Taylor must have winked at each other. And all right, you're going to go full speed. So they start running full speed.

Just in this after practice condition, I just hear Coach Shannon go, stop! I'm panicking. He's like, we don't need Jerry to pull a hammy. Like the week before the Super Bowl. Oh, no. I know it wasn't because of me. You didn't care if I pulled a hammy.

But it was just funny, but I liked pushing him, but Jerry would never shy away from a challenge. That guy was so competitive. It was unbelievable. He's still competitive. He's still at the game's running around, totally dialed into what's going on, high-fiving people. Like, he's just wired that way.

Do you ever get that slant rope? Yeah, I did. You did? Won a couple, well, when you have a whole season of practice, you better win at least one slant route. Got to. Any good shit talking stories with Dion? Deon, you know, he was the greatest teammate. He didn't talk smack ever in practice.

What about in the game? Like, you witnessed just being on the sideline and seeing Deon work. Well, I saw Deon, you know, they tested him a couple times early in the season. And once against Atlanta, they tested him. And, you know, he had played there. And he high stepped from the 50-yard line all the way to the goal line. While looking on the sideline. holding the ball up in the air. I'm like, oh my, like, not too many humans can do that. And the fact

that he did it against his old team, it was just absolutely insane. That's all time. Going to, you know, your next, your next Super Bowl, but Denver's, like John Elie's first Super Bowl, he was like 0 and 3 going into that game against the Packers, correct? And that was his first Super Bowl, right? It was. Yeah. And what's funny is I was like looking up, I was looking up this game and the Packers were favored by 11 points. Going the Super Bowl. Going in the Super Bowl. I think it was in the beginning of the week it was 14,

and then we stopped paying attention to it. But we had an agreement. We're not going to talk about it. And you mentioned Shannon earlier in the episode. Shannon's a talker. And for him not to talk any smack for two weeks is a minor miracle. I couldn't believe he didn't say anything. But we were dialed in the year before we lost to Jacksonville at home.

And we were the better. game. We were the best team in the NFL right until we weren't. You know, we got upset by Jacksonville at home. They went on an incredible run, one like five games in a row. They beat us at home, but we were 14 and two, thought we were the best team in the league, took one bad game to get knocked out. So that next year, we were just totally dialed. You know, we went on the road every game. We had to go to Kansas City and Pittsburgh, win games on the road against really good teams with great coaches, and we found a way to do it. So by the time we got to the Super Bowl, there's no, there's nothing to say. Let's just go get it done. Nobody said a word.

in the beginning of the week we were 14 point underdogs, but we had all the confidence in the world. We thought we should have won the Super Bowl the year before, but because we didn't and got upset by Jackson, well, people kind of forgot about us. And they were like Green Bay had won the Super Bowl the year before. They were the favorite. And they were a great team.

I mean, they had Hall of Famers on their team, but there was no doubt in our mind. I can't, you guys have been around teams where you're confident, and it's not false bravado. It's like, we're really confident. Like, we believed we would win. And we did, but they were against a great team.

never made the chance to go to a Super Bowl, though, which was heartbreaking. We were two quarters away against the Chiefs, 2019. That's why great players, I mean, a lot of great players never get to one, or get to one and don't win one. And it's,

if it wasn't for Patrick for Holmes, and it's 4.85 running around on a two-minute drill, we would have got it done. It's not about me, though. It feels a lot like. But no, you know the feeling. Like, you know exactly how hard it is to get to these games and win them.

There's no guarantees, right? And it's hard work, it's determination, it's having all the right players, it's the coach is making the right calls. some of it's the way the ball bounces too. And it's not just like, like you think in high school when you're playing, it's like, oh, we'll get them next year, we'll get them next year. And then once you're in the NFL for a couple of years and you taste a little bit of like playoff success,

you think, all right, next year we're going to get over the hump. And it's like, that's not always the case. Sometimes you guys just might suck. There'll be a lot of turnover on the team. And so you have to take advantage of those opportunities while they're there. Yeah. Because we were the one seat in, here I go again, we were the one seat in 21. And we got upset by the Bengals.

And it was like, we really thought like this is the year. Like, we just, Derek Henry came back. back, all that, and we're like, this is really going to be the year that the Titans win the Super Bowl. I played on a team like that in New York, my first year. They just won the Super Bowl. That was the year they beat the bills. They held on the ball for like 49 minutes, right?

They beat the bills in the Super Bowl. And I'm with all those legends, Lawrence Taylor and Phil Sims and, you know, OJ Anderson was the MVP of that game. And they had a lot of the same guys back. And the expectation going into that season is we're going to win the Super Bowl again. We just won it. We're going to win it again. And we finished eight and eight.

Well, I was just going to ask if you had an iconic Lawrence Taylor story? There's so many iconic Lawrence Taylor stories. I'll share one with you. You know, it was frowned upon to hold out during training camp, but I was a third-round draft pick and held out for like eight days. So when I finally get there, it's in Fairleigh Dickinson University. And, you know, it's the old wooden lockers, and they have like your name and tape with a Sharpie written on the top of these wooden locker,

you know, ad hoc lockers they made at Fairleigh Dickens University's, you know, basketball gym, auxiliary gym. And I'm walking through. These guys already been through a week of practice. And it's hot and humid in Fairleigh Dickinson, in New Jersey in August. So I'm walking through, you know, it's a locker room. Smells like a locker. I keep walking through.

I look up at my locker and my name spelled wrong, of course, on my locker. But I sit down and sure enough, I'm between Lawrence Taylor and Carl Banks. I'm like, okay, the receiver from Stanford. How do I get between two all-pro linebackers? and I sit down and they were just finishing their first practice. But back then, like as soon as you signed, get out to practice. So they had just finished their first practice. I'm like making sure all my equipment's there.

I sit down. Lawrence's locker is just disaster. It was a messy locker. There are stories about, you know, the equipment guys finding game checks in the bottom of the locker. They didn't even know we're there. Things like that. I found out about that later. But anyway, I sit down and, you know, they both come back and I'm like,

Lawrence Taylor just sat next. Like I already know Lawrence Taylor. He's famous already, right, for on and off field. And then the other guy, you know, is Carl, He's like 6-6, you know, NFL Pro Bowl linebacker. They just won the Super Bowl. And Lawrence is like, hey, man, anyone see my cleat? He was like missing a cleat or something.

And Carl's like, no, man, I think this dude took it. And I've never met them. I haven't formally been introduced. And they both stand up as I'm sitting in my locker, and they're just towering over me. And they're like, hey, man, you got my cleat? And they're not messing around. Like, it seems like they're just going to beat the crap out of me on day one.

And I'm thinking my first day in the NFL is my last day. in the NFL. And then he's like, ah, I'm just messing with you and slaps me on the back super hard. And I'm like, what just happened? That's my, I just got here. I haven't met these guys yet.

First impression in the NFL. Yeah. Thank the Lord. The menace of Lord's head. Thank the Lord. They were kidding around. But he was smart. He had an incredible sense of humor.

He was very funny dude, and he was a great teammate. But in games, I do believe he's the greatest defender of all time. Like, I watch him in games and tackles would just quiver. Like, you're like, you got to help me out. Put a tight end over here.

running back something. Don't leave me one-on-one with this dude because he's just one of those guys like when he walks in the room he's the alpha and nobody questions it. Oh yeah, that's L. That's L. That's the alpha. Yeah. And he's one of those guys in the weight room. He just had like that natural, I don't know if you want to call it like dad strength that you would call it where he'd walk in and I never really saw him lift a lot. But when he did, I'm like, that dude's pushing like ridiculous weight. And this is the first time I've seen him lift. Is he lift at home or something? Like where's working out. Like, right?

And, you know, he's like 6-5-250-something runs under 4-5. You know, they had clips of him as rookie or running down as the gunner, just outrunning DBs to tackle the punt returner. And he's just a specimen. Some guys just have it all, man. He also had also another LT story. He, I remember one game, not all players are treated the same. You know that, right?

So, like, if this happened to me, I would have been cut in a second. But, yeah, I guess he was late. I don't know what the story was, why he was late, or what happened to his car. But he comes running out during the national anthem. They're playing the national anthem. And out of the corner of my eye, I see this guy running onto the field with his jersey halfway on, like trying to get the rest of his jersey on their shoulder pads, runs out during the national anthem, like missed the pregame, missed everything.

And then totally had a sack on the first defensive possession. It's like he didn't even need to warm up. Like he just showed up right before the game, gets a sack like nothing ever happened. Like you missed the whole pregame. Nobody said anything to him. Nobody said a word. No one said a word. No one said a word.

That's like the ultimate nightmare when you're playing sports is like you have a dream that you're supposed to get to the game but you can't get to the game and like the national life is going on and you're like trying to get dressed as fast as possible. But what would happen to most people, right? Yeah, you're getting chewed out. You're probably getting benched. Window or aisle, right? Yeah.

You're out of here. Whereas LT. Okay, LT, hurry up, man. Get your jersey on. Yeah. It's third now. Three guys are helping up tape in the jersey up. They're all in.

They're all in. We're getting ready to put. Yeah. He's here. Thank God. No, But he was, I mean, I was blessed to play with so many great players, and he was one of them. Like to play with somebody who's considered the greatest disposition or, you know, if not the greatest defensive player of all time.

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Subscribe 3, 5 stars back to this episode. You're going to slacked yourself, dude. You've shown a lot of humility. Obviously, when we introduced you, we start clapping for you. You start clapping as well. You're just a team guy through and through. I was watching a video with the Broncos, and there was like one of the reporters, somebody that works with the Broncos, and they're asking you your top three favorite

plays as a Bronco. Two of those three plays, you weren't even the one making the catch or anything. One was a victory formation, and when was you watching a teammate score a touchdown, I know you're going to win the Super Bowl. And then third one, obviously, was a great catch by you in the end zone. But what are your three, like, favorite plays of all time that you were, like, the main receiver for?

Oh, gosh, I don't even know. You mentioned the victory formation. That was Super Bowl 32. It was the Broncos first Super Bowl. And I got to be at that point of the V in the back and just watching the clock just slowly pixelate down to zero. Man, I think about it almost every day. It was like the greatest experience of all time

and just family running onto the field and just John L. he's crying and laughing at the same time as just the first Super Bowl Denver ever won. And what a blessing to be part of that. Like, you know, I'd won one Super Bowl with the Niners. It was kind of a backup role, but it was such a cool thing to win a Super Bowl with my teammates. But this one was like incredible. I mean, to see the look on Broncos fans' faces. So many had like generationally gone to games with their dad or uncles or families and some of them had passed and then finally the Broncos win and John fought his whole career for that. And we worked so hard and we were such

big underdogs, right? I mean, that was, that's tough to be. You're not going to beat that one. I don't know. I remember some of the plays I made. I don't remember all of them. People sometimes remind me of plays. I don't remember making because it was always, you know, make a play, turn the page onto the next. So I don't know. I don't have favorite plays of myself. I have favorite memories. And usually, you know, those around the big games and the Super Bowl's, the one you mentioned about Rod Smith caught a touchdown against Atlanta. That was such a big pivotal play in our game that helped us win. And I get to see that play because I, you know, he was in front of me and I get to like chase him down the field and watch him.

score. But so much that happens in those games you don't see, right? You're doing your job. You don't see what everyone else is doing unless you go back and watch the film. And one of the interesting things about Super Bowls is the season's over after that game. So I've probably watched those games less than any other games. That's awesome. Somebody not

answering your question is my favorite thing that's ever happened. That's my favorite non-answer episode ever. If you put them all up on I pick them if you put them up, I don't even I don't remember half of them. Really? Yeah, I guess there was a good one against Green Bay. Anyone that was a long than you know there's a good touchdown yeah that would be fun but um no i don't really i don't put them

in order i loved all of me even the blocks even even blocking in the run game like one of my favorite feelings was if td flew past me and like i knew i took care of my guy like i played tackle right like we're kindred spirits here so as a receiver hell yeah we are i wouldn't i wouldn't have got on the field if i didn't block like that's how i got on the field that's how rod smith got on the field so we'd have like these little side bets five 10 bucks dude i bet i have more declators than you and say hell no you won't have more decletors than me and then we'd like let's get our team let's get our head coach Mike Shanahan to stop the tape because he's going to have to because we're going to declet somebody in this game and we would just literally go for decleters but not just not just blocks yeah five or ten bucks

I'm like uh yeah he was on draft and I just yeah a little bit back then the light he's like in the middle of his career yeah you know a super bowl run about five you know it's funny though it didn't take more than that all right you're on man let's do it it was more of the pride thing right the money was nothing but um it was so fun and that was your my first year with the broncos they didn't play that much but competing with rod to get decleaders and just the the feeling you get when you're head coach when you're not one of the main guys on the team you're not a starter your backup when he stops the film in front of the whole team after the game and said oh wait a minute who's that over there let's check this out oh hell yeah there we go yeah all right we just look at each other

like all right um it was just such a fun feeling man ball was fun that's the best show i feel like shanan oh my fault no i was just saying in a team meeting when you when there's a little a pause you're and a highlight on you. And you get to go watch it through and the pride that just goes to your body. And then on the flip side, the low light when it's put on you, you're just like, please God, kill me.

I had one of those too, and you're right, it's the worst feeling in the world. You just feel like you've let everybody down. Yeah, and they don't, you know, Coach Shanahan would never embarrass you. He doesn't call people out to embarrass them. But he, like, he has high expectations. So we think we had a game against Cleveland

where we lost, and that happened to me, and you're right, I'm thinking, you know, I played pretty well. I had a pretty good game. Actually, statistically, it was one of my better games and he's like well guys this is what we need to do to get better and I'm like clip number three like diving for a ball in the back of the end zone that went off my fingertips and even to this day I'm like I don't know if I could have caught it but he's like

these are the plays we have to make and I'm like I'm like and when you know something about when you do an offense it's one thing but when the whole team's in there like the defense is in there the other side of the ball all the coaches it's like you I mean you feel like you let your team down you feel sick to your stomach but it's done in a professional way And it just makes sure that you don't exhale, right? Nobody, hey, even if you had a good game, you have a play in this game where you could have done better. That could have been the difference in the game. We need to make these plays to win.

And that was the expectation. But you're right. The feeling you get is just nausea. Yeah. I feel like Coach Shannon, and he always, he probably, it was probably obviously throughout his career. But I felt like he always did a good job of calling out, you know, calling out guys in team meetings and hyping them up. And whether it's the low lights, having the teaching moments and everything else. but he would always like spotlight guys

basically in all of our team meetings like every day. Like I remember my first call out of I was just on practice squad and I played, it sucked. I had the fullback tied in linebacker and I got to stand up and he's just talking about, you know, all the different things that I would have to do and everything else. I just remember it was like the best feeling in the world.

Later that day after practice he tried talking me into fullback and gave me some runaround story about how some linebacker went to fullback in Denver. And from that moment, I intentionally played poorly as a fullback. because I did not want to go to the offensive side of the ball. Yeah. So I think you have a good feel for how Kyle Shanahan coaches,

because he does it in a very similar way. He speaks to every position on the team. But you tell me, as a defensive player, when your head coach, who's your offensive coordinator, knows your job and your responsibility and talks about it in front of the whole team, does that gain him a little extra respect than a coach that might be a figurehead

who isn't sure exactly what you're doing on your side of the ball? Yeah, I felt like Shanahan, because he would float around all the different position meetings as well. And I felt like he had just as good of a grasp defensively as he did offensively. But yeah, when you'd get a call out like that or understand it like, okay, he knows all these things that are going on.

It was like, it was cool because when we were like growing up, like Denver, I mean, we were like, what, 10, 11 when those champions? So you guys were like, you know, in front of everybody. Like you just remember the Shannon Sharves, the Terrell Davis, DeVey, McAfreys. And Coach Shanahan being that Super Bowl winning coach, getting that one year was just super cool because you'd see him on TV all the time. It's like, oh, this dude's your head coach.

Yeah, I'm glad you got to feel for that because that's the – Kyle, you know, he made this team his own and, like, things have changed offensively, scheme-wise, but he takes the same approach, and then I have to be a football coach. I have to know everybody's assignment. I'm going to watch every position meeting. I'm going to know offense, defense, special teams. I'm going to have team meetings where I talk about offense, defense, and special teams in front of everybody.

And I think what it does when you have a coach like that, It makes everyone kind of sit up a little straighter. It makes everyone respect him because they know he knows their assignment, you know, on their side of the ball. And they believe in them and they trust in them. And I think that's what you're seeing with the 49ers. Earlier when you were talking about that first Broncos Super Bowl, the way you guys felt like you should have won it the year before going 14 and 2, you lose one to Jacksonville.

And there was just that confidence of like, hey, there's nothing to say, we got to go out win the Super Bowl. It doesn't matter if you guys were 11-point underdogs. I feel like that's a very similar situation around right now with the 9-1. You go in, you lost Brock last year against the Eagles, like you were a team that you probably felt like, oh, we're going to do it this year. And then you don't. I feel like that expectation for the 49ers this year is like, hey, there's like nothing to say like we have to take care of business against the Chiefs. Yeah, I mean, there's no talking doesn't do anything, right?

And I think, you know, the Chiefs have been to a few Super Bowls, right? They're the same way. It's like, hey, they know that nothing you say is going to make a difference. You got to go out and play. And I think the 49ers understand that. I do think, you know, when you have a young quarterback and different players on your team, it does mean something when, you know, if you lose a championship game because your quarterback got hurt, and then you play the same team week 13, and then you go out and beat them pretty good,

I think that builds confidence, right? I think when you're down 17 in the championship game and you're like, we're facing the biggest comeback in championship history, and then you come back and win the game, it does give you some confidence. And I think when you get into the big game, the Super Bowl, right, you do draw on that. Hey, no matter what the score is, we're never out of this. no matter how this unfolds, you believe in yourself. We don't need to change what we're doing. We've been here before.

You hope everything goes well, and you got the lead, and everything goes great the whole game. But if it doesn't, you don't blink. You don't have to change what you're doing. Yeah, and they also haven't put four quarters together yet. Like, they have not done 60 minutes of football coming together a couple of years ago, losing the same team. Like, this is just breeding a get-back year.

Let's hope they do it this game, right? Let's put it all together this week. because defensively, if we can put the second half of Green Bay and the second half, Detroit together, that one game defensively, then offensively take the second half and put that together. It would be one heck of a game. But I'm looking forward to it, man. It's going to be a close game. Two great teams.

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But whenever I watch my kids games, it's like, look, I'm a dad now. I'm taking off my coach's cap, putting on my dad's cap. I love you. I'm here for you no matter what. I'm be cheering for you on game day. And, you know, hopefully it goes well. Do we got a dad hat for him? It would have been great.

We'd just throw on the old dad hat. We also, I just got a package at the room that came in. I have a whole bunch of dad hats and bus and work. Really? I'll just picture him just saying that. I take off my coach, and then he just all of a sudden puts a dad hat on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice.

I love it. Yeah, me, put your dad hat on. No, but it's tough, man, because you, you know, anything I say. Oh, thank you. I love it, man. I got you. I am honored. I earned a dead hat.

Let's go. Thank you. But, you know, if I say anything, it'll be repeated. So I'm, I think, there's two great teams. What are you going to do? You guys have played ball. You came so close, right? And you've been in a lot of games, won some, lost some.

And, you know, we've watched a lot of Super Bowl. balls. So I'm hoping the 49ers, like you said, put two halves together and get it done. But I played in too many games, won too many, lost too many to make predictions. Can you talk about the Christian McCaffrey Foundation? Yeah, he started that a few years ago, and it started out helping military families. He is so invested in helping military families. And from, you know, military men and women that come back and need help after they've served our country, to helping their families. And I know right now there's some specific things he's trying to do to help them recover

and take care of their bodies and deal with their physical issues that he's trying to help them with, especially, you know, some of the Rangers and high-level military personnel. And so it started out helping them, and it's kind of expanded to also helping out children in hospitals across the country. You know, he had this kid, Logan, who's no longer with us, just incredible. kid who was in the hospital in the children's ward and all he wanted to do is play video games with his friends but you're sequestered you're away from your friends and there's it's really hard to play video games online with everybody and maybe the hospitals didn't have those units so he

created the logan bowl last year where kids and hospitals around the country could play with their friends on these consoles and so that's a really really cool thing that he did as well um so it means a lot to him to give back um you know Logan was buried and christian Jersey and in Carolina. And he had, he had such, like, dude, when that happens, like, it's tugging on your heartstrings. It had such an impact on Christian. I mean, he had more influence on Christian than Christian had on him. But, like, in his name, he wants to continue to be able to give kids that experience when they're

hospitalized for them, for their families. And so he had a Logan Bowl last year where a bunch of NFL guys competed online in this little playoffs and it was a lot of fun. But supporting military families and supporting, you know, kids and hospitals. across the country. It's always been really important to them. That's awesome. I know you guys, you also have some youth football, some youth football camps. Yeah, I've been doing a camp, gosh, since my kids were little. Originally, it was just for them and their bodies. It's just rolled a ball in the park and started getting more and more kids together. Put the ball down. Yeah.

Let's play ball. And then over the years, I just realized there's so many kids. I never went to a football camp growing up. I played basketball. Never even went to a football camp. Started playing at high school. I played Little League football, but just signed up for my team. Never went to a camp to learn how to play football and never learned speed training or sports performance. I'd like to teach some of these kids some of the stuff I learned over the years that might not have access to this type of stuff. So we bring in Lauren Landau and his sports performance staff. He was the sports trainer for the Broncos for a number of years, the strength coach, and now he's

at Notre Dame. But we'd bring in him and his crew, and they teach him speed training. Like, you know, a lot of kids didn't learn that back when I was growing up. I'm like, I want him to learn about speed training. And then we'd bring in celebrity NFL coaches and players to talk to the kids. the kids about their experience and about, you know, the importance of staying in school and getting good grades. And they'd share their stories. And then a lot of high school and college and NFL coaches love to coach. Some of these guys are no longer coaching, but they love ball. And so between

teaching the kids the game in a very safe way, teaching them speed training, letting them hear from motivational speakers, helping the coaches who want to coach, you know, work for four days in the summer. It's just a feel good for me. I just love doing it. Overnight camp? No, it's a four-day day camp and we have two camps during the same same four days we have an elite camp which is for athletes that really want to learn one specific position so you know older kids but still under eighth grade and then an open camp for anybody and we bring in a lot of kids from the boys and girls club and other organizations kids from military families and you don't have to have ever played football before there's no pads it's seven on seven and skill training and speed training that's cool

if uh if kids were interested in going to one of those where could they find that Sports eddy.com. Sports eddy? Yeah, Sports eddy, but it's SPORTS, E-D-D-D-Y. SportsA, like an eddy, like if you're a fisherman. Okay. SportsEddy.com. We've been doing camp for like over 20 years, and it's the highlight of my summer.

I enjoy it every June, 17th through the 20th this year. Kids flying from out of state. Some of my old high school buddies bring their kids from Pennsylvania. And a lot of people vacation in Colorado, and they'll mark their calendars for that week just so their kids can have some fun playing ball. Oh, that is awesome. Yeah, that is really cool. man. You got anything else? I do not. J.P., Mitch, anybody got anything for Mr. McAfrey?

The only way for Christian to win the Super Bowl was for you to lose all of yours. Would you do it? So, JP just asked if... Here, go ahead, JP. If the only way, the only way for Christian to win a Super Bowl would be that you lose all of yours. Yeah, I'm not getting in these hypotheticals. But, um, Hey, you gotta answer that question. You have to answer that question.

I don't have to answer that question. Yeah, you really don't have to, but yes, you do. Back down. Yeah, yeah,

yeah. Well, you guys think you can take me? Yeah, no. I still got some of the old man. Yeah, you're right, though.

I tell you that you care more about your kids and you care about yourself. At least I do. Like, so I want, I want so badly for him to have success in the win. But I don't, you know,

you know, I got my friends and my teammates and my teammates and Christian's experience back then and my family. But I would pay a, you know, I would give up a lot for him to be able to have that experience. Including your, just not your Super Bowl rings. I will give them all three of the Lamarty trophies in my office for him to win this one.

Let's go. Yeah, let's do it. I tell you what, I know you did that begrudgingly, so thank you. Thank you for dealing with us. No, no, it is, man. It's, I'm telling you. It changes your world. Yeah, you've seen some like gymnastics or ballet or something like that.

Yeah. And you watch your kids running out. I'm like, what wouldn't you do for your kids? I know, man, it is. It is really cool. Man, thanks a lot for coming on. This was all time. I couldn't wait.

Whenever we booked you, we couldn't wait to tell CMC, like, hey, man, we got your old man. I know that's going on. My phone's right here. I texted him. I said, we got you on. He must have been in practice.

All he said was Big Ed. That's it. Yeah, Big Ed. Not a lot of words. He got anything for me. Like, we can get you like cooking going. He's like, big Ed. It's awesome.

All right. He's focused. He's dialed. He's dialed. I'll tell you what, he, yeah, because the NFC championship game, he had that hit towards the end zone where he kind of went off the head a little bit. And I was like, hey man, that like, you could see him kind of like looking around, give me one. And you only would see Christian, do the give me one thing ever. So I text him after the game.

I was like, hey, man, saw the hit. Hope you're all good. Good luck in a couple of weeks. He was like, I'm fine. That was his response. I was like, oh, fuck yeah, dude. That got me fired up. Yeah.

No, he was fine. He needed to one. He never likes coming out. Yeah. No, he was good to go. He was ready to come back in. they needed them to. But that's one of the reasons it's great having two weeks off also, right? Remember there was a short period of time there where you only had one week off before the Super Bowl.

I'll never forget it. It was Pittsburgh in that particular game. And one of the receivers missed the game. Had he had two weeks, he would have been able to play. So I think it's good there's that week in between the game, the championship and the Super Bowl. I can't imagine the anticipation of having two weeks, though. Like obviously the excitement, we're going to the Super Bowl. Then probably by Tuesday or Wednesday the next week or that week, you're like, I'm still a week and a half away from playing in this game. Yeah. And not like getting so excited to where like you kind of blow your load on like

the following Wednesday. I'll tell you what, like by the time kind of Thursday practice ends, it seems like an eternity. By the time you get to the game, you feel like you've been waiting forever. Like these guys, if anything,

you got to guard against being too amped up because you're so ready to go and you've been waiting forever and you feel great because you haven't played in a couple weeks. And so that's one of the big challenges also like early on in the game. Don't get too amped up. And then also it's going to be the longest half time of your life. So you're going to have to eat or drink something and stay so you're ready to go and regroup in the second half. And we've seen some games, right?

Second half a team comes out flat. They've been sitting around for half an hour. So stuff like more longer, right? And stuff like that does matter. But it's a great experience, man. I'm so happy for him. He's been waiting for this moment for his whole life. And I guess to take the field with this team and see what they can do.

And we're happy for you. Thanks, guys. Yeah. Thank you, man. This is all the time. Yeah. Great episode. We've got to get the, uh,

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