Bussin' With The Boys - EP #54 - Our Dads Join The Show! Parenting Advice, Birth Horror Stories & Fatherhood Lessons | For The Dads

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

In this episode of For The Dads with Former NFL Linebacker Will Compton, hosts Will and Sherm introduce the FTD Dads, chat through some hilarious childhood stories about the guys and ask some hardhitting questions about what Fatherhood really means — all while keeping the episode fun, fresh and of course, under an hour. The episode kicks off with Bill Compton giving his perspective on the Compton Beach Vacation before diving into some hilarious topics, including: Chef’s Hilarious Birth Story Deke’s Dad Getting Kicked Out Of Soccer Game Will Being Forced To Wrestle (OR ELSE!) Other highlights include: The Dads Trade Birthing War Stories Sherm Throws Some Hard Hitting Questions 👉 If you’re looking for dad podcast humor, parenting real talk, and a strong community vibe, this episode of For The Dads is a must-listen. 🎧 Tune in for laughs, real talk, and unfiltered dad energy. 💬 Drop a comment, share with your dad crew, and don’t forget to subscribe to For The Dads with Will Compton for new episodes every week!  PT6, Going Dark. —-- Timeline 00:00 - Happy Fathers Day from the FTD Dads!  05:51 - Checking with Bill Compton on the Compton Family Vacation 11:01 - Grandfather Super Powers are a real thing  13:12 - What was it like becoming a Dad for the first time? 17:52 - Asking the Dads if they wanted their boys to be athletes 39:55 - How much does life change with the second kid 47:49  - What are some qualities that the Dads see in their kids that remind them of themselves? 57:32 - What is something you wish you would have done differently as a father? 1:00:47 - Final messages from the FTD Dads     —--   For The Dads is for every guy who needs a place to talk, vent, and laugh about all the insane, hilarious, and chaotic sh** (sometimes literal) that comes with being a dad.    Hosted by Will Compton–NFL Vet, creator of Bussin' With the Boys, and proud dad of two. This show isn’t about expert advice and how fatherhood is the greatest thing on earth—it’s about embracing the love and suck of parenthood every day. From balancing work and family to battling the mental load, fears, and the moments that wreck you in the best way, we dive into it all with honesty, vulnerability, and a sense of humor. Cause at the end of the day... us dads have no idea what we're doing.   Alongside Will is his producer Sherman Young, a recently new father who’s currently deep in the trenches of Fatherhood and loving every minute of it. Together, they’ll break down everything that can go right and wrong (...usually wrong) when you bring tiny humans into this world.   Expect funny parenting stories, laughs, call-ins, advice, weekly themes, and the kind of conversations you’d have over a cold beer in the garage. Whether you’re raising teens or still Googling “how to install a car seat”, For the Dads is the ultimate podcast for dads who are in it, about to be in it, or just trying to do their best while screwing it up along the way.   -----   FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram:   / Forthedadspod  Twitter:   / Forthedadspod Facebook:   / Forthedadspod TikTok: / Forthedadspod   LISTEN iTunes: http://bit.ly/BWTB_Apple Spotify: http://bit.ly/BWTB_Spotify   ----- Olipop - Buy any 2 cans of Olipop in store, and we'll pay you back for one. Works on any flavor, any retailer. Go to https://drinkolipop.com/BWTB See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Do you want to open it? Yes. Well, hey, welcome to... for the dads. I'm Bill Compton. Related to Bill Compton. Glad to be here. Glad to be with Shirm.

He came in. Welcome P.T. Sickos or for the dad's episode. He came in and was so kind right off the matches. Gave you the warm as luck. He goes, we talk about you all the time back home, watching for the dads. And like, I'm so happy to see you. I was like, oh, my God. He forgot.

doing this until we were driving over here. He thought we were driving to the dad combine. And I'm sitting there, I turned the music down and I just go, you excited for the podcast? He goes, well, I forgot all about it. Oh, my God. And then I'm saying, I look at, I look straight ahead

and I go, you forgot about it until like, to like what? Like, you just realize it right now? He said, yeah. I said, all right. I said, how are you feeling? He goes, I'm nervous. I similarly if it makes you feel any better, So my parents were going to come in this week. Some stuff came up.

Unfortunately, they're not here. But my plan to my dad was I wasn't going to tell him until this morning. That he was coming on the show. My mom told me that is the best plan of action for him. Otherwise, he would have been up all night the night before. Would have been so nervous. Yeah, I just told him. I said, Dad, you can't fail on this podcast.

Like, there's just no failing. You know how big this moment is for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, the Hayes pretty much in the bar. We just tell stories. We laugh a little bit. I figure it's probably the point that I get discovered. Yeah.

Yeah. But hey, Papa Team 6, happy Father's Day. We have a Father's Day episode. That's when everybody's watching, right, on Father's Day? Yeah, this will come out the Wednesday before Father's Day. This is our Father's Day episode. Father's Day is this is, this Sunday is Father's Day. Okay.

This will come out. Yes. I got to get the brain operating. There's a lot going on. There's a lot of dad brain happening. Do you want some? Absolutely. We may need to pass that around as each dad is introing themselves. Bill,

you mind giving me a boost. We like to boost for our dad brain. But happy Father's Day. Sat repeat. BT Sickos. This is obviously a show where we embrace the love and suck of fatherhood. On this special episode, we are going to have our dads join us for a Father's Day episode.

You just heard from my dad, Billy C, We can now go around the table. We can go around the ring and get the dad introductions. We sadly do not have Papa Sherman. I hate that Papa Sherman. Papa Sherman, if you are watching, I love you. I miss you. I know you had something big pop up.

But we do miss you dearly here. A lot of FOMO not having Papa Sherman on. Jeff, you want to kick it off? Yeah. I'll kick it off. This is my dad, John. I'll let him take it away. What's up, PT, Sickos?

Yeah, yeah. Getting this thing going right. Jack pretty much said it all. John, aka chef senior, the man who taught him everything he needs to know about cooking. Some things he didn't. It's great to be here. Happy Father's Day, everybody. Hey, you are 100% his dad. It took about two seconds of him coming around the corner when I showed up this morning. I go, yeah. There's no mistake. And almost just the angle that they speak to where it's almost like a 10 degree angle down. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And the delivery of how they speak. And it's not, it's not the same voice, but it's the same cadence. Yeah. And accent.

It's like a voice that gets on top of the voice to deliver the message. Yeah. There's no hiding it. That's my boy. I'm his daddy. Loving it. John is the father. He is the father.

They came in the door and chef goes, Derek. Then I hear a little bit of a deeper voice. in the same tone and stuff. I was like, that's so sick. That's so sick. This is Chip. This is my dad. He has been PR trained.

He had had his own podcast at one point, so he knows what not to say and what two say. He's very ready for this moment. He's been thinking about it all morning. So he's a podcaster. He has had a podcast called Chip Off the Block, where the two of us did a little pod. And he was thoughts from the bench,

like my fake company back in the day. He was our head of HR. Hi, I'm Chip. I'm Derek's dad. I am not podcast ready. Thanks for having me, guys. This is great. Let's have fun.

Let's have some fun. You know, this was something we put together because we're having a dad combine in Nashville. We're bust with the boys. We host this dad combine. We have all the guys in the shop. We fly our dads in. We get our dads in. And we just have a day with our dads.

We capture it on film, have some content, have some competitions, some trivia, a lot of different things that just shows. basically it's an excuse to get our dads to town and hang out with them for a day. We feel like it's sick. We do it every year. This is our fourth, I believe, dad combine. Yeah. Fourth Dad Combine.

And knowing that we were going to have them in town that they were going to be in the night before, my dad drove in last night. Chip, you got in yesterday? Chip got in last night. John, you drove here. You probably allowed him. Did you allow him to drive your truck? He said he would drive on the way to Taylor. Okay.

You're splitting the splitting time. but we figure let's get the boys in let's get the dad's in for a podcast of Dad Pod leading up to Father's Day. So here we are. Do we have an opening question? I know there's a lot of, we're feeling each other out.

Maybe jumping into Deke. I would love to hear Mr. Compton's take on the vacation that just happened. We just got off an episode where you were talking about how awesome the vacation was. I want to hear from the old man. I mean, I had a great time.

It was, yeah, it started out with a, smart-ass video that he sent me. But it was helpful. I found a place and, you know, a couple days of sun and, you know, white sand and, you know, playing with the, playing with the girls, you know. And I don't get to see him as much as I'd love to. And it was just a great family time. I sent him the video because my dad struggles with just general direction.

A little directionally challenged. A little directionally challenged. Aren't we all his dad? We were going to go a lot of friends, though. We were going, we were already headed down to the beach, so he was going to fly in and operate kind of like on his own to get into the spot. Yeah. So I went out to like the side of the road and I was like, all right,

you're going to be coming from this way. Uber's going to drop you off right here. As you get dropped off right here, when you see this gate that goes up and down, you don't need it to go up. You can just walk around the gate because it was a car gate. Perfect. I was like, you don't need to go up and down. You just walk.

walk around the car gate. You're going to walk in. It's going to be literally the second door on your left. We're going to walk in here. Here's the letters. Here's a B. You're going to see a B and a, what was it, 27? 37, right here on the garage. That's the place we're going to be. You walk around. Here's the front door. I'm going to leave it unlocked for you. I walk in the house. You walk in the house. You bang a right, straight down the hallway. I'm going to walk down the hallway for you. This is your room. Whenever you get set up, I walk out the front door and I point down the driveway that we're on where you can just walk down toward the beach. I'm like, Dad, just all you have to do is walk straight right down there. We're going to be on the beach. You will find us. I'll even send you a photo from where we're at for when you do walk down, had them completely set up.

Bill, and how did that process work for you when you arrived? Did you have the video out and you just followed it to a team? I had the video out, yes. Yeah. I think I watched it once before I attempted it. Yeah. And it was B-37. B-37. B-3-7.

B-1. One letter, few numbers. Yeah. And this is a man. How many times you think you've been to the beach? That's what he said. He did say that. He said B37.

Yeah. Yeah. Two numbers, one letter. Yeah. How many times in totality have you been to the beach in your life? Three. Counting this weekend. Your mom and I went to the beach before we were married in Pensacote.

Oh. And then the other. two times are with us. Yes. In 30A. Yes. Yeah. Right there by Pensacola. Yeah. My old man, he's not like, he doesn't go out to the water whole lot, so he gets down to the beach.

Yeah. Immediately. Sure. So you can see, he's obviously lost like 60 pounds over the last, what, year and a half, two years? Two years. And he comes to the beach chair. And man, he gets the shirt off.

He gets ready to go. I'm fired up because I don't really see my old man without his shirt on. It's like back in the day when he's hitting the most muscular and everything else. But he gets the shirt off. He gets on the beach chair and doesn't put on any sunscreen and just lays out and sunbatze for like an hour. And I'm thinking I'm going back and forth in the water. And I'm like, I'm guessing he got, he put on sunscreen at the beach house before he came down here. So toward the end of the day, I'm like, I get in.

I think I'd get done showering and my dad's like, I'm some burnt to hell. I'm like, do you put on any sunscreen? He's like, I didn't for the first hour. I did kind of after I laid out. That wasn't a part of your video, Will, in his defense. The video should have said sunscreen, buddy. Dad, here's sunscreen sitting on the bed, lather up in it. Stephanie asked me, do you want some, let me put sunscreen on you?

And I said, no, no, I want to get a little bit of sun. Yeah. Yeah, you know. Get a little dark, you know? I don't blame you. And then the tingling started happening. Felt like the skin was getting tighter. I thought maybe I'll put some sunscreen on now.

Well, with the, a little too late. With the weightlifting and the most muscular background, I feel like the SBF5, like the tanning lotion, that might be the move. Because if you keep on hitting that SBF5 repeatedly throughout the day, You build a good tan. And you don't get burned. Build a good tan.

Build a good base. Yeah, well, back in those days, it was paint on tan. You know what I mean? Spray on tan. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. So just before the competition is when they rolled it out. You coat, yeah.

He had a little rat tail in the back. Yolly. In our garage, there was just be a blowup back when he used to compete. And he was stacked. How do the, I am starting to wait. witness the grandfather's superpowers with my own daughter, Scarlet. She will be held by anybody, but when my dad holds Scarlet, it's crazy how she can just sit there and not have to play with the thing, not have to move. She's so happy in his arms.

Do the superpowers translate with Rue and Skodzilla? Rue does a lot with me, you know? I mean, we're playing this morning, you know? I mean, she's grandpa, grandpa, and then, you know, like, yeah, I mean, I feel. When he came in last night, we had to keep big, Charles had to shush him to not talk too loud. Because he came in right as Rue was going to bed. And it was one of those nights where Rue kind of came out of her door to make sure I was coming up to lay with her and scratch her back or something. Like, hey, Mama, can you tuck me back in? And she's like, I just tucked you in.

And they were on the stairwell, grandpa's sitting on the chair. And Charles, like, shushing him to not talk. So that way Rue can't find out that Grandpa has arrived. Because then Rue would have been up for like another hour. It would have been Christmas morning. Yeah. I remember the first time my dad came to visit when we had Rue. You remember this?

And I hand Rue to him. Hey, can you hold her real quick? I remember he just holds her and sets her on his knee. And then I think she was, she was being fussy, right? And I'm like, well, dude, dad, you got to do something with her. Like, give her a little rock. Give her a little, like play with her a little big. He's like, hell.

I'm not the greatest with babies. That's okay. Some of us are. You feel like you know you're going to do something wrong. You're going to hurt them or something. You know what I mean? I think it was said best by Delaney Walker at Taylor's Pool Party where I was just looking for a free hand to tighten the screws on Scarlett's bottle.

And Delaney happens to be the closest guy to me. And I go, Delaney, hey, do you mind holding Scarlet just for a second? You go, I don't do other people's kids, man. And it's nothing against you. Like, I just, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? I was like, all right. I was a little squeamish at first about, well, you know what I mean?

They handed him to me in the hospital. I wonder if I wanted to know if I wanted to cut the cord. I'm like, no. But I cut it, you know, and I didn't get it the first time. I'm like, Jesus Christ, you know. Is there anybody more qualified than me in there, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

Wait, so Will was the first born. Oh, yeah. Correct? That could be a really fun just kind of going through the story of like delivery day with each one, these dads. What was it like becoming a dad? It's great. I mean, it was the best feeling in the world. I always say that that's when life begins.

Yeah. It's when you have your, you know, your first son. Let's get off the emotional stuff today, guys. Okay, okay, okay. I've been watching too many of these episodes and we're not, we're not, We're not going there. We're not crying. And you don't have to say,

us with our dads. This is a fun day. Crying's a choice. Crying's a choice. Do we have any stories on y'all's end of delivery day for your boys? I remember Jack, I remember both boys, but Jack especially was made a big entrance.

We waited forever, of course. And then he decided, I think it was three in the morning. Water breaks. And we're living up in, you know, Plano, Frisco area.

Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, I'm in, I'm dad mode ready, man. I mean, the shit's packed, ready to go, camera, everything. I'm like, let's get in the car. We're doing 95 miles an hour down the North Dallas tollway. So I call the Grand Prix, basically. I was about to say, that's a fast one. You've been at 3 o'clock in the morning.

Yeah, so it's wide open and I'm pushing 100 miles an hour. She's telling me slow down. I'm like, I got it, I got it. You know, it's just full panic mode here or two, which I said it wouldn't do. Yeah. And we get there and then we wait, right? So then Jack's not ready. So we had this guy named Dr. Carlos, who was the chief of surgery there at the hospital and a great, great OBGYN.

Turned out to be by the time Jack was being delivered, he said it was the hardest deliveries he's ever had in his life. They had to take one of those suction. And I don't know if I would allow this to happen again, like looking back, if I could go back and change anything, you ever see Jack with a little bit of a cone head? you know, there's a reason for that, all right? That wasn't natural. But Dr. Carlos straps on this suction cup looking thing and literally puts, you know, I don't see.

Yes. Yes. And wedges him out. And you're just standing there on the side of the bed. My mouth is open. I'm thinking the poor wife, you know, just going through it, you know, and I'm trying to do all I can to just encourage and say it the hell out of the way. The doctor pulls out of plunger.

Ultimately catchers. We're going to get this boy out of here. I don't know what's going to happen. I mean, this is scaring the hell out of me. You know, and eventually he got it out. And he just like shaking his head. He goes, because I've been doing this for 24 years ago. He goes, that was the hardest delivery I've ever done in my entire life.

Come on, chef. Straight to the NICU, baby. How was he, was he a big baby? Pretty big. Yeah, pretty big. It's big bone, do we call them. Come on. Yeah.

Strong. Yeah. Yeah. Good frame. So I have back issues from carrying this boy around half of Texas. That is a chef entrance to the world. It was a delivery to remember wherever Lisa is right now. Thank you, honey. You're amazing.

You're the best. Thank you, Lisa. Blessings to you. Great job. So it's a wonder I talked to him to a second one somehow, but we did. A few years will kind of make you forget things. Oh, yeah. So, Chip, I'll pass it over to you, buddy.

Thank you. Derek was our second one. And so I was well prepared for all the things in the operating room there, Sharm. We knew what he was. We knew already had his name. He was pretty simple. Easy birth. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, if you can believe it, he was actually the smaller of my two boys coming out. We like to tease him that the Schwan's man had something to do with. with it. I look my parents are 5, 5, 5 and I'm 6 foot. Hey, hey, hey, Derek, we're talking to the Schwan's truck. Yeah, dude. Yeah.

We used to get Schwans all the time. Yeah, we did. The yellow truck that come by? Yeah. Yeah. That's hilarious. We were a one-income family and we were eating Schwann's steaks and I always wondered why. You're welcome.

You're welcome. And I did notice that when I came in, I was like, hey, deep. I was like, hey, D.ke's got height on him and I met your brother as well. Yeah, you got five, ten. Yeah. On a good day. Come on. Chip, were you a sports guy growing up?

To a degree, yeah. To a degree? Softball. Like when you're having, when you're having, you're the second older brother? Yeah, my older brother's about four years older. So we both played soccer and things growing up. My dad was more of a pool shark as a kid than a sports player. So on that, we have dads.

it's so many boys in the family. For you guys, what was the degree of wanting your boys to be athletes? As they're growing up, like as you have the first and second, like me, Cody, obviously why it came like six years later, but when you have a couple, a couple boys,

and you're kind of observing from afar, like this is going to be my athlete. Like, what was your position with Derek on you thinking he's going to be athletic? What was your position on chef? Thinking and wondering if he's going to be, be athletic? I guess my position was, yeah, I wanted them to play something.

And, you know, get them into as much as it can, throw it on the wall and see what sticks. He tried baseball. He wasn't very good at baseball. Basketball. He tried hockey once. I only had to pay for one session of that. Did you cry? I cried my hat.

Oh, no. He came up to the glass. His face was so red and puffed out inside that helm. And I was like, yes, I don't have a hockey player. Hockey's expensive. I knew. So then one day I came home and his mom said, hey, I signed you up to help coach. I was like, okay, fine.

I'd done basketball. I'd done baseball. I said, what is it? She said soccer. I don't know a damn thing about soccer. you know, but I knew it was cheap. All you had was cleats in the kingwires. So I said, let's go with soccer.

But that seemed to be the one that stuck to the wall. That's the one he played through college. So, I mean, it was a good choice. But, yeah, I wanted them, I wanted him to do something. Yeah. Something sports. And then he chose the most expensive position in soccer goalie. Yeah.

Yeah, you know why? Can I tell you why? Yeah. We moved from one age bracket to the next, and I told the whole group, I said, okay, guys, I need a goalie. We're driving home. Derek says, dad, I'll be your goalie. I was like, okay.

Little did I know. He thought goalies didn't have to run. Got 18 yards. That's it, cut. I've got to do anything else. Well, that's not the case. Yeah. But that's why he's a goalie.

I love that. Not with Coach Wyden. Goleys running. Yeah, Chip also holds a record for getting kicked out of my games the most out of any parent in our entire youth organization. Oh, Chip, you were like that on the side of the right. Oh, yeah, you can kiss the way as part of my ass collectively across the board. Other teams are like, whose dad is that? I'm like, I don't know, but he's a fucking douche.

I don't know. He started off explaining like, you know, I wanted him to do something. Like, okay, he seems like he's, he's anchoring on it. It doesn't matter. He doesn't care. He's not that the competition part. Like, I just wanted to do something. But hearing that he gets kicked out of games, it seems.

like you had the competitive juices were flowing. I've only gotten one red card. Okay. Okay. Oh, man. But I did, I did take a red card. How about you, Papa, Chef? Yeah.

Chip, I just want to say I was passionate as a parent as well, too. And I used to tell myself, I'm not, I'm going to behave, you know, and then something would happen and kind of just, you know, kind of get, you know, kind of get me going. So I can relate to that. We were the same way like, hey, you're doing something. Want you to be involved in team sports. Want you learn how to work with others, that kind of thing. But deep down, there was a there was a vicarious kind of element to it,

want my kids to be an athlete and play sports. We start off Jack and soccer. And I played soccer. So it seemed like the natural first start. We did a couple other tests. Yeah, we did all the kind of the basic sports football. I think we did a Titans camp for like a day. and it must have been 110 degrees outside.

And first time, maybe the only time Jacks had pads on. And, you know, he's lined up against like a 210 pound fourth grader. He's the only time he's a bat. And he was probably like a mini. I mean,

this guy I grew up with him. His name is Gavin Ballou, if you're listening. And like seventh grade, he was like, I think he maxed out. I don't want to throw Gavin and a bus. He's like 5'9,

like 180 in like eighth grade. The dude was huge. Yeah, it's a big boy. And he knocked the wind out of me. And then they never let, like, instead of getting like that, get your ass back in, they're like, oh, yeah, you don't have to play. So that's how I never ended up playing for. So that's the only time you had pads on in your life.

Yeah, yeah. Which is surprising to me how much of a Tennessee volunteer football sicko you are. Yep, I know. There's a. Did you know how far apart are you and your brother? Three, three years? Like three and a half. Who is the better athlete, Papa, Chef?

I would say, you know, on paper, Jack was, I would say Grant was probably a little more athletic soccer player overall. But Jack had just as good of a career. You know, yeah, I mean. Papa Chef, just the haze in the barn. Like who? The haze in the barn. It is what it is. That's, that's a, you know, I have to be careful there a little bit too.

They're both good athletes, very different athletes. Jack was kind of that big brawny guy. Grant was skinny as a rail, you know, but pretty nimble. When they're both like toddlers coming up, which one were you like, oh, this is going to be the... I thought Jack at first. I mean, Jack was just stronger, bigger, you know, and kind of had that vibe. And I mean, it's like any parent. If we're being honest, it's like, I'd love for my kid to play in the NFL. I mean, that's got to be a dream, you know, for that's what's what's what every parent wants. And then at some point, you start to realize that you see the writing on the wall, like, Maybe it won't be.

Maybe it's college, huh? Yeah. College, right? That's still in play here. Jeff or Jack. Yeah, and that starts to fade. And then it's like, well, maybe high school is fine. High school's good.

There's nothing wrong with that. Get the varsity team. I'm sure you'll be very successful professionally and something or other after that. So you kind of start to step it down with with expectations versus, you know, reality as time goes. Jeff, I love how you kind of got fired up when he said when you guys were coming up, he thought it was going to be you. well and then it sounds like little bro not only closed the gap your dad

had to rebalance expectations your thoughts I'll give my little brother I don't know what you I'll give my little brother the benefit because he was a very very late bloomer it wasn't until like senior year of high school he grew he was like what five seven going in his senior high school he's six three now oh my gosh

he's hollering me so now like when he comes home we'll get in fights and I I'd beat him up a lot as a kid when he so he learned to be scrappy and now he's six three and still like really scrappy like not a guy you want to like no i mean i'll still kick his ass did papa chef say jack doesn't want it he didn't want it he knows what he's starting to

i'll see him soon no my little brother is like he is i can't say it he's like he's a motherfucker because he just grew up really scrappy and now he's bigger in me So he likes to stay it up. He'll try to bow up on me. I'm like, hey dude,

I'll die right now to be with him. That's got to step in. A lot of pride there. Hey, we're going to be together this weekend. So maybe we could have a little match or challenge. Yeah, for the ball.

Yeah. For all this. We'll settle this once and for all. I like it. Bill, what about you? In what, respect. So in the respect of getting Willie C because I know he did a lot of travel ball

growing up. Was that an expectation that you had of wanting him to be in sports? Obviously with your weightlifting background. But was it something early on? You're like, hey, Willie C's kind of got it. Yeah. I mean, I feel that I was a very objective when it came to the kids. But was, With Will, he just seemed more advanced than the other kids. Yeah. The way he moved, you know, and things. And, you know, he always had pretty good size, you know, for a kid. And then once we got into the youth football, you know, he was, even, even in, I mean, after we got going in high school and stuff, he looked like a man playing with young guys.

Yeah. Yeah. And he's a September birthday, and you graduated in. you're born in when was I born born in 89 I was born in 89 graduated in 2008

yeah so you were in your grade he wasn't even old for his grade it wasn't like you were early bloomer yeah I was like on the earlier half yeah yeah yeah like old for the gray was more like uh June big time yeah

but no I think that I mean all the all the you know kind of the boys picked what they wanted to do I mean we he wanted us to do all the sports Yeah. Yeah.

Like it was, you know, you were hard on us. I was hard on you. But I mean, like, if he says, you know, I'm going to play football, then I'm going to be behind dad. And, you know, if he's going to train, we're going to train. Yes. Yes. I mean.

He'd come in and I'd be playing video games and he'd get on my ass about like, we need to go outside and train. And I'd be, because we go out there. He had me doing walking lunges. I'd be doing these duck walks with a bar on my back. when we had like an incline back in the back alley. And I'd be like doing these duck walks ass down to the ground,

just duck walking up the alley. And what is? I'm talking like box squatting, but like box squatting to make sure you get your depth to where you go down and you're like sitting back and then coming up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, because I mean, he had a background

in strength training. Yeah. In bodybuilding and everything else. and he was just big into that world. I remember we would order these VHS tapes, DVDs, Joe DeFranco, who's very well known out in New Jersey for like testing and just a training regiment that he would just, he'd have me on fairly young.

Yeah. The hard part, and I know I was always very good at football, and I was solid at baseball. He didn't care as much for baseball. Wrestling was the sport. growing up because it was it was kind of like all year round and i wasn't near as good as cody yeah cody was a stud pretty much from the get go cody was six years old in place what sixth in nationals if yeah fifth in nationals like his first year wrestling how much younger is cody than you

he's a year younger than me 18 months younger than he was able to take you like at all i was always bigger i mean at wrestling yeah when he when we got older like he would uh yeah he would be me i don't think we ever wrestled. Okay. But I know awareness-wise, like, high school, Cody would a, yeah, Cody would have been. Damn, so he had it. Yeah.

I mean, like, I guess it could have been tight because I was bigger and I still, like, knew how to wrestle. But Cody was very, very good. Bill, what did that year look like? I forget what grade it was when y'all pretty much had to force Will to wrestle. That was his junior year of high school. Yeah. Yeah.

And just for the dads, I was, I had. to wrestle or I was grounded all winter. I mean, it seemed like a fair deal. And this is in high school when I was nice at football. I think we're all team bill on this one. It worked out. How did that work with you coaching any of his teams in slash some of that training that you did you did in the backyard and some of the wrestling work too. How was it coaching up Will?

Well, I did, I mean, once Will got to high school, there wasn't a lot, you know, I mean, it was like, you know, dad's not your coach, you know, type of thing. He'd monitor like my training. Training, yeah, I'd make sure that the, you know, if they're not doing certain things at high school that we're doing them, you know, in their garage and the weak point type of training, you know. But, no, I think I really, I mean, I know, I guess I was tough on you since you always refer to that. But just like the junior year of wrestling, though, I knew that that would help him. Build a lot of discipline. And it did, which you can say.

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Built a lot of discipline. His times, yeah, his times of the pro agility, you know, I mean, everything went up. I knew it was good for his balance. Fire now the whole. Yeah. I mean, wrestling hits your posterior chain like no other sport.

And wrestling is about the only sport that I know of, and somebody can argue, but I see that as a sport that transfers, actually transfers to other sports, you know. Yeah. And I felt that that wouldn't help him because he had combine stuff coming up. You know, this was the big year, you know, his junior year. You start, you know, that's when you got to start making a name.

Yeah. And scout and rivals and things like that. We had these camps coming up and it was like, there's no way we're going to hit that posterior chain like wrestling is during the winter, you know. And posterior chain, is that back all the way down to glutes? That's everything you don't see in the mirror. Yeah, from the butt down. Okay, okay.

Lower back down. The rule that my parents had to go off of everybody being team bill was if we didn't play a team sport, we would have to have a job was what my parents sold me. So like fully understand where you're coming from of like if you're not involved in something with school, like my parents are like if you're not going to be in a play and doing theater, you're not going to be on a sports team. You're going to have a job. Yeah, like doing an extracurricular.

Oh, yeah. It was the same in our household. And I kind of finessed them the spring before because I told them that I was going to play baseball. And then I just didn't play baseball because I had stopped doing track. Yeah. And then so I stopped doing track after my freshman year And then going into my sophomore year I said that I would play baseball

Because if I didn't play baseball Like they wanted me to do another sport other than football Yeah Because I kind of just started focusing on football And so when I finessed them It didn't obviously didn't go my way Yeah yeah And what kind of

Audience member fan were you Were you vocal at games? I think it was pretty common No he was yeah my dad was calm You seem like you would be be calm. Like if he coached us in like little league, like he was like on the staff, but he was never, he was never a guy on the sideline.

Like you, you know, a Bo Polini type yelling from the sideline, that stuff. It'd always be like one to one. Yeah, if he didn't need to be something. Yeah. Something needed to be said. It was pulled to the side. Yeah.

You know. Yeah. But he wasn't like even in high school, like when he talks about like monitoring my training, he was always very good about letting whatever staff coach, let them be the coach. and then I would just have to bring the programs home so he could look at him and they'd be like, we'll hit these things at home. But not in like he needs to go talk to the coach

about this way you should be doing in your strength program. That's very healthy. That's extremely healthy. It takes a ton of pressure off you and allows you to still operate as his dad but be there to help as well. Yeah. Well, and I think when you're involved in wrestling like we were,

you know, and travel the country, you know. Yeah. With wrestling, it's different. You know, I mean, parents, You don't see, I'll tell you what the worst was was baseball. You know, parents getting crazy. You know, baseball is crazy. I mean, wrestling, it's one-on-one.

Yeah. There's nothing mom and dad's going to be able to do anyway. You know what I mean? It's going to get figured out on the mat. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I think everybody was more chill at that, you know. I don't remember only a couple incidences where parents got crazy at a wrestling tournament. Yeah.

You know. But so I think that helped with. with everything. You know, I mean, I didn't. They're training, everything. You're, it's, you know, once game time, what are you going to do? Yeah. There's no need in getting too crazy.

Yeah. Wrestling was number one in the household. Like when I referred to the tough love and everything else, there's a part of me that's like, like playing in college at Nebraska, playing in the NFL, like, oh, like being proud, I know he is. Yeah. I think of times where it's like football growing up, you only played in the RJFL, we had six games a year.

So even though I was really good, the sport that kind of took over because it's not like he would go to my baseball games and watch, but it wasn't like an interest. He loved the physical, the nature, the physical nature stuff. He loved football. He loved wrestling. And so knowing that wrestling could be all year round. And we're talking travel wrestling, travel all around the country. Like Cody was for wrestling people out there. Cody was a triple crown winner for like, what was it, Tulsa, Reno. There's another one. Tulsa is a big one. Yeah, Tulsa's a huge. Tulsa's a big one. And I know nothing about wrestling, but I know that. And Cody was a stud. And I just wasn't. I was never, Cody was always a state champion. I was always like a silver. I would get silver.

I'd get second at state or third. And Cody would always win. And I was like I see Rue now. Like Roo's an emotional. She's shy. She'll be fast to cry. I do feel like I was like that as a kid to where it would take me. I wasn't tough the way Cody was tough.

So Cody in my eyes was always like. the favorite child to my dad because wrestling was just all year round all the time. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't until football came and we knew it was like my time to shine. But again, that's only like six, seven games a year. Yeah. So in the other sports or being good at baseball and wanting my dad to be fired up about baseball, it just wasn't. That was more my mom's cup of tea.

Would you say that's fair? Well, now that you have two children, you know there's no favorites. Ooh, what is that? What is that? That's a little olypop. Guys, it's no surprise. We got our Raspberry Sherbert. We got our Blackberry Vanilla.

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Day. We love you. Yeah, that is true. That is true. And now you know. Now you know. And Bill, that's a good segue into a question that I really wanted to, if we can, throw around all the dads again. Because that's a question that we

get a ton on this show is preparing for the second one what is it like when you have the second one how does that love translate across the board do we want to have all the dads kind of touch on their would love that i mean i don't know that i have the the words to you know but when the it's it was just like it boom it's just part of the family yeah you know what i mean i mean it's all of a sudden now you have a this other little entity and it's it's part of you yeah you know and and And usually, like, Will and Cody became very close quickly, you know. And it just, it complements everything else. I don't think there's any easing into anything.

It just, it's there, you know. Once your second one comes, it's, it's, you don't have to be ready for anything. It's, you know, it just happened. Yeah. You know, the feeling, the love, everything is there, you know. So. How about you, Papa, Chef? Yeah, I mean, I think for me, it just came naturally as well, too, right?

You just dive in and you love them. You don't love, you love them both the same, but yet you treat it. Maybe the way you treat them was always a little different for me. Like I knew the buttons to push with Jack or what would work, you know, and what wouldn't work. And same with Grant, right? Very different personalities is what we found out really quick with both of them. So one approach, and this is like kind of my managerial philosophy, too, but one approach, for one may not work for the other.

Exactly. But as far as the way you, you're kind of your, you're overarching way you love and support and show love is, is consistent, right? And the same with the two. Do you have like an example of,

pushing buttons for each of them? To where. No, I'm not trying to figure out of push chefs. I need some gay. Yeah. I am naturally curious. It's just like,

again, more like that manager, knowing what motivates them, no one had to get the best out of them. It was just very different for Grant versus Jack. I mean, Jack, you could be more direct and just kind of just tell them straight up.

Hey, man, you need to get your head out of your ass or you need to do this better. And it's very direct. Grant, very sensitive. The way he received information was different. And he could, you know,

he could clam up really quick. So I had to kind of just rethink my approach and the way I came at him and to try to get him to do what he needed to do. But the way I, you know taught him that and it was was different and just getting around it. I was just the approach is different. But Jack, you could just tell him straight up. Hey, man.

That ain't it. That ain't it, man. Stop that. Shit right now. You know, kind of thing. Yeah, that's, again, just just different approaches. But yeah, man, love is the same.

And then hopefully Jack, you feel the same or you don't. Does that feel right? He self-coaches. Yeah, were there ever pockets? Like how I think back to times where I'm thinking Cody's the favorite. Like are there pockets of time where you felt like little bro is getting a little bit more favoritism? My little brother can't do wrong. I still think that.

There's still times. And I love Grant. We're like, you know, of course, do like what all brothers do. We fight. We had a long period where we fought a lot. I would literally kill someone for this kid. I really mean that. But like there are still instances where I'm like they take, they're both younger, him and my mom are both younger siblings too.

and I swear I've been on the side where I'm like I can't get this one right. Grant is a very good natured kid. I was, uh, I think very good. Like I was serious in school. Like never gotten serious trouble. But I was definitely more of like getting into small things here and there where I get into

trouble and stuff. So there was always like a part of me that was like, oh dude like the little brother can't screw up. And I feel like all I do is keep getting in trouble and stuff. But part of that was Grant also didn't get in trouble because he was just a good kid. and I was just being at times of shithead. So it's like, you know, nothing to do but blame myself. But there was a part of it where I would sit there and be like,

this mother, you know, like can't do no wrong. Yeah. It is fun to hear both your dad and yourself touch on it because just in the office, like chefs self-speak and like self-coaching, like you, you are hard on yourself and I don't think like in an unhealthy way. But you very quickly will accept like, Like if you mess up on something, you're like, hey, I fuck this up and I'm going to fix it. And blah, blah, blah.

You're on to the next. So it's cool to see how that translated of like you really don't have to kind of. Yeah, to beat around the bush with chef. You can tell him, hey, that didn't work and that broke. And he's like, well, then I'm going to fix it. Yeah. Yeah. Like if this, if our shop was a football team, I do feel like chef would be in my world,

in my thought process, it's like much easier to coach. Very much so. Because you can just look at him. You can. And you already know he's beating himself up about it. Yeah. And you openly will ask me

with like edits and stuff, tell me if you see something, because I'll tell you right now, I already don't like this part and blah blah, blah. Like you're, yeah, that's fun. How about with you, Chip? I think our family resembles this family to my right here. My oldest always thought Derek was the favorite.

He just probably because harder on him, the older one, because of the way you had to try and get your message across to him, where Derek always seemed to absorb what you were trying to say. So when chefs over here talking, I'm like, yep, yep, Nico same way. Nico, you know, it took him a long time to figure out Derek wasn't the favorite. It was just how you received the message. Yeah. I can see that too.

Like when you talk about him trying to process the message, I feel that same vibe when you sit there and have conversations with Deke. But no, I think your dad said it very good. This gentleman said it well too. I can't add a whole lot to it except for the fact that I can feel chef's pain. me, go. The one thing I had, too, is, like, I always felt like the expectations were larger on me. And so I was sensitive to the things because my brother was very talented at, like, very talented at soccer. But I was, and he got varsity, I think senior year and maybe junior year.

And I came in freshman varsity starter. And so there were parts of it where I was just, I did excel past him in things that he kind of didn't have interest in. But because we were both playing soccer, like, my dad would be harder on me because I always had the dream to play in college. Nico just enjoyed soccer. So as I got older, I realized the difference was he was being harder on me because I told him my goal. And my dad's like, cool, if that's your goal, then get your ass outside and run. Like do this shit.

Yeah. Nico would do things because he genuinely enjoyed doing them. And as I got older, like the relationship with Nico has gotten different where I'm just like he's his own person. But you look at it as the younger brother and I'm like, well, we're both on varsity, but my dad's kicking my ass and I'm four years younger. Like, this shit should be impressive. But it's not.

Like none of it matters because. I had told them I wanted a goal, and they were holding me accountable to my goal. And so as you get older, you kind of see that perspective of it. But at the time, I'm like, well, this is bullshit. Like, no, like, I'm doing really well. Why am I not getting, oh, you want a cookie? Because you accomplished a quarter of your goal. Like, that's where you get with age with it, which is cool.

Yeah. I do have another follow-up question that's kind of a roundtable if we want to do that again. When I came in, Derek was it was Derek versus the printer, which we all know how the printer is at this office. Yes. And Derek did win. But the printer can, it can be absolute hell. And so Deke is knee-deep in that printer. And it's just me and Chip sitting there. And Chip goes, a lot of his mom's coming out of them right now. And so I now ask everybody. And we can start with Bill. Bill, what are some qualities that you see and will that remind you of yourself? Um, well, I'd say the way he is with his people, you know, people, uh, you know, the way he, the words I want in are just intertwine with people.

Yeah. The way he can, uh, lead people. Um, you know, I, I see that part. I don't see. Yeah, he doesn't have my temper. Thank God. He's more level headed, you know. He can get there sometimes, though.

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gets along with people and things like that you know yeah um his his ethic you know working out uh you know i see that yeah um you know he trains hard focuses on if he's got a goal he's he's all in you know very goal driven mm-hmm um but yeah i think it's very similar to the old man because i remember when he was bodybuilding and focus on training like he'd be measuring his food like he'd have a little scale measures vegetables measure the carbs, whatever meat, protein, all of that stuff. He would very be, if he's focused on something like he is 100% all in.

And if he has a bad day, it almost takes him off. It almost takes him off the whole thing. Yeah. I feel like I have that with me too. Like if I have a couple off days or I have like, all right, enjoy a few days. It's like when I'd come home and you'd enjoy yourself. And then it almost be like the reset's happening, but then you don't want to fully buy back into the reset because you've already fucked up your. entire structure.

You versus having like an empathy and a lean. It's like the hell with it. Yeah. Versus having like an empathy and a leniency to just be like, hey, just get back on the horse. So the whole thing is upended. You're planning, your ability to plan ahead on stuff has that was one of the very first qualities that jumped out at me about Will of I treat Twitter and social media as when a funny thought comes to my head, that's when I post it. I've always done that.

One of the first weeks in the office, Will comes up to me and shows me his phone and goes, look, I'm tweeting this right now about the Minnesota fans, and it's going to piss them off. Because Nebraska plays them in two weeks. They're going to start tweeting this. I'm going to have this plan to then hit them with that.

Then that's going to, and fast forward a month later, and it went exactly how Will thought it was going to go. And I was like, people don't just meticulous. That's not common. Don't talk about the planning ahead because my wife listens to this. So she'll be all right.

We all have our facets of it. We all have our facets of it. I think another thing with Will, and it reminds me myself, though, is like, for example, I can, I fully understand, you know, like working in a high tech world and antrical pieces like that. But the small stuff, I don't even give it any thought, like changing their tires,

stuff like that, you know what I mean? And he's the same way. He couldn't fix anything. I remember one time, Wyatt was talking about working on the car, you know? Yeah. And he looked at me and said, we didn't get that, Gene, did we?

I said, no. You know. Shout out PT Fix. Shout out PT6. Oh, I love it. And to swing back around, one thing I wanted to say, Shep had a good point about

when you're in management you can't manage everybody the same people don't react the way in it i remember with will wrestling you know i could go mike dick on him and he would fold he'd crumble you know what i mean well as cody that's what he responded to yeah and it's to the point where we brought in who became another family member scotty spidell and it was like here he go he's yours you know what i mean He was a high school wrestler and was just coming out of high school. And he had a gentle way with Will to where Will got very good at wrestling. Yeah. Very good technician.

But the way I approached him, and then full circle comes around, he picks Bo Polini for his college school. I looked mild compared to Bo Polina. I was about to say. Yeah. That's such a good note. It's my daddy issues, but I'm so about to say, insert picture of Bo Polini just. Yeah. We are running short of time, so we'll kick it off and keep on going around.

Yeah, yeah, it's funny. I mean, you guys have probably already just seen this. People have always thought Jack and I are just very similar, right? That's the observation with family, friends, casualty observers. Everybody watching right now. What you talk, the way you look, what your manner, you're, your mannerisms, but it's, it's funny, like, our, or even our life paths have mirrored, uh, each other in a lot of ways. Like, I feel like I know the mistakes Jack's going to make

before he makes them. Think about the, the, the second and third year of college there, right? For example, which I had the same exact experience, right? So not casting stones here. Same here. I was the kind of teetering and, and found away, right? And got over that hump. And I was on my way with life. And it's funny. I see a lot of similarities. And, and, and people will say, the same thing, whereas Grant's more like his mom personality-wise. But I think that probably mostly like just being socially at ease, I think is a trait, you know, that Jack and I both possessed together that is probably the most obvious. Yeah.

Yeah. I love that, Nancy. I think Derek gets a quality of friendship. I think he makes friends really well, really easy, which I do. and my wife makes fun of me for it. And some of Derek's friends we make fun of too. But anyway, I think that's one of the things he gets for me. This is my first time being with Chip in person.

I had Chip's number by what episode number for you, probably episode four? If earlier. I would assume the day I got hired. Yeah, Derek approached me and basically said, hey my dad Chip wants your number he has a question for you is it okay if I'd give my dad your number and he texts you I go yeah dude like definitely I thought this was just going to be some one-off thing chip and I have a text chain and if we're talking about like me being sensitive shirms like hey your dad texted me I had a good episode last week I'm like he didn't fucking text me shit

and you and you did I mean he like he texts me really kind of seven, we have combo back and forth. We do now. The original text was looking for where you threw your trash in the dumpsters. That's right. I wanted a dumpster finder, but what I got, I'll show you later, Will. Does he know that story? I give Sherm the number.

My dad's like, yeah, I want to text them and bust his balls and see if there's an app to find these dumpsters. I forgot about this. So I said, hey, Sheram, I need you to trust me. Like, my dad's going to find it funny. we sent a URL link to my dad that was the funny image of the large man with his penis erecting out. And my dad clicked the link and he said, well, he texted me. That's when he texted me. He said, you suck.

Basically, he's like, I had that in front of coworkers showing him the dumpster out. Is this the San Francisco Chronicle? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which he was a good sport about, but Sherman was like, I don't want to send this to a grown man that I've never met. It's cool, dude, trust me. My face was truly a tomato because I was like, I've never even, I've hardly spoken. to your father, but if you think this is a good idea to sit in this and they'll laugh, I'll do it.

Yeah. And now, hey, here we are. Yep, here we are. And I laughed. The funny response was Mrs. Whiteon. She's like, what is that? And I said, oh, Sharm texted me a dumpster app. I said, go ahead, open it up.

Oh, no. Oh, my God. No. Oh, buddy. Oh, no. She laughed like hell. It's just if anybody wants to know we're talking about San Francisco Chronicle Image

Just put that in on Google Yeah Inti 6 you don't have to do that search Don't do it There's dads already out there laughing They know what we're talking about They go honey don't look that up They got me with the link in here

I have one final question And Chip we can start with you We're all obviously growing up now And we're having our dads on this podcast Which I think is unbelievable I love that this is happening when you think back in fatherhood, what is something you feel like you wish you would have done differently?

No, and we all love each other. We're all connected. We're all glad and pumped about where we're at. But just for any dads that are in it right now, even for us, like what is something we should be more conscious of that we might not see that you would go back and back? I wish I would have done this a little bit different. On a lighter note, not taking as many red cards.

But I think. maybe I let my passion into what he did go to extreme. I think as I get older, you know, I think my passion should have stayed more like your dads, you know, keep it to the sideline. Keep it, keep it to us. Because I know, and I watch you soccer a lot. And I know a lot of people are like, you know, they think they're doing the best for their kids by trying to be in the game. Let the game be itself. Let the kids be the game. Not that I was the most terrible person ever, but I could have been a better person. And I think, I think that's something I would, I would change. I love that. It's a great answer.

Yeah. Oh, gosh. There's probably a long list of stuff, but since we're running out of time here. I think I would have been harder on them in terms of accountability and building routines even on a daily basis. That's probably where my personality works a little bit against me. Probably a little too nice at some points works against me as a manager at times as well too. But I think just driving that accountability from making your bed and doing this and not letting it slide. And there's probably things I let slide over time that I look back and go, Yeah, that was a mistake. You know, is that fair?

I know. My parents didn't make me make the bed too. Yeah, I probably should have beat his ass more than I did. Well, said. Well, thank you. That's summarized perfectly. I think, no, I think I could have been a little more understanding, you know, a little less hard on him than I was. And I think, you know, I could have said a better example, you know, just all the way around.

There's that, that'd be a whole other show for tell the dad's out there what the hell not to do. But I'd say be more, yeah, more understanding and, you know, just enjoy the moments a little better. Great answers all around. It's 909 right now. We need to wrap. Is there any final message real quick, real, real quick that all the dads would want to say to their son, proud of them, love them, anything like that? We ain't trying to get it.

We ain't trying to get it. You don't have to. You don't have to. I will say I did when I did stop playing football, I did a podcast with Ben Newman on Bussing. And my dad had a message at the end of it. That was a surprise to me. And so he, at the very end of that episode, he just articulated. he's sitting on the back, he's sitting on the back porch and just like speaks to me through their

camera. If people want to know, if people would love to hear what he said. That is a great, that is a great video. We're emotional guys, man. Even listening to dads talk about their son, do you want to say, do you want to say anything about chef? I will cry. I won't go there. But I will say this that, you know, we didn't, it's, it's been a, it's been a great year with Jack. Like, we've gotten to reconnect over the last year. I mean, we was. He had in Knoxville for five glorious years. And, but we didn't get to see him. And obviously, he changed so much.

And right, he comes home. There's an adjustment period. We're getting to know each other. He's staying with us, save some money, right? We know all that. But I think the thing that's impressed me the most is his work ethic. He's the, he's really showing us a lot. Like, he's the first one out the door.

He's the last one, he's the last one to come back in. And he, you know, he's coming home and working. And he seems to enjoy it. I think that's the best. We're the most excited for us is he seems passionate about it. And he enjoys it. And I, of course, told him, I said, hey, very few people get that and ever in their career. And you have it in your first job.

So you've got something special. Give it everything you got. And he has. He's taking it run with it. So I think Lisa and I are probably most proud of that. Just to see the work, the work rate and see the energy he's putting into it. Oh, that's a good word. That's a good word.

I guess what I'm. most proud of is the fact that I wasn't all keen on the move to Nashville from Pittsburgh. You know, I wasn't sure what was going on down here. I knew there was country music. That's all I knew there was in Nashville. Barbecue. Come on. Let's go pockets.

But what he's accomplished down here, and especially now the last year, Yunnskaz have really, I think he enjoys not only life, but life with work, life with home. I think these guys have done a great job with him. Thank you very much. His mother thanks you too. So I think that's what I'm most proud of is the fact that he came down here on his own, did his thing, found you guys, and now he's happy. My only thing I wanted to say before we wrapped is loved this episode.

This was a ton of fun. Wanted to make sure that all the dads heard that y'all's sons are awesome. And getting to do this show with them is truly. a blessing. This is a really fun environment you get to work in and getting to know these guys and the stuff that we share on this show. It is heavy. Like there's a lot of tears. We've done a great job of avoiding them today. But being able to grow closer with them, get to know their hearts, and the PT6 community that's listening right now also getting to listen. I think that's why this show is successful. So just want to say to you guys, great job.

on raising these dudes and dad's rule. Well, I don't think we could ever, you know, tell our kids how proud we are of them that, you know, words could even cover. Yeah. So. That's a sign off right there, man. Hey, we need people.

We need PT6 in the chat. Just put three hour so, three hour so, three hour so, three hours. Because there's so many stories that come to mind that would make us laugh that I would want to know those types of laugh. laughing stories with them. Because, man, we have, we have to do this again. We didn't even get into, uh, I've never won the title. Having a, getting a shot at the title with the old man.

That, that story. And we could do so much more. We obviously, we got to get to the dad combo. Yeah. So we got to cut it short. But if PT sicko's out there, you want a three hour so we'll, we'll figure out way to make it happen. We'll get you three hours.

We'll get you three hours. So dude, this was awesome. Yeah, this was a lot of fun. I didn't know what to expect. Yeah. Kind of sat down. I'm like, so are we doing a game? Is it like what the moms did on Mother's Day?

I can, I already knew my dad. When he said that he was nervous and just realized he still had to do the podcast, I was like, fuck. And we didn't even need the dad jokes. You handed these out and said, if it gets bad, you just whip out the dad joke. Yeah, I was, why, why wouldn't the Sesame Seed leave the casino? now. Is anyone now? Why?

Because he was on a roll. Take out the trash. Have a good. Do you want to help? I got one. Every time I get to work, I hide. Why do you hide? Good employees are hard to find.

Oh, who, Bill? Bill? Bill? That's My New Year's Eve resolution to all my friends, is that I want to help them gain 10 pounds

so I can look skinnier Why don't vampires like gambling? Why? They get nervous when the stakes are raised. Do you guys have any dad jokes off the top? I got to save it for dad. It's okay if not. I'm saving for dad combat.

That's from Pomp. So you guys already have some. Oh, I'm sure there will be some later today. I'll just to finish it off, I'll leave it all with my dad's favorite dad joke. When people, I'm Sherman Jr. Oh, oh, yeah, these guys need to read. I'm so sorry. Yeah, yeah, Chef Senior.

Go ahead. I think I got a good one. Which superhero likes hummus the most? Which one? Which one? Peter Parker. Yes, yes. All right, take the shorter one.

Get them, Chip. How do farmers party? How do they party? They turn up the beats. Hey. Easy, Chip. Are you kidding me? Dick, what do you got?

A cannibal showed up late to dinner. He ended up getting the cold shoulder. Yikes. Oh, you like that one. All right, we do have to wrap. We got to go. Let's grab. We got to go.

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