Bussin' With The Boys - ERNEST & Jelly Roll

Episode Date: July 7, 2021

Recorded: July 5, 2021 | Second week in a row without the boy Comp, and Taylor called in the big guns to hold down the bus: ERNEST and Jelly Roll Things open up with Jelly Roll cursing out ERNEST for something he did to him on the 4th of July. Ern gives it back to him because they're both incredibly hungover, and they rip a shot to push through together (but not until after Jelly bows out for a clenched scurry to the bathroom). Next, Ern schools Taylor on how much work it takes to shoot music videos, Taylor expresses some frustration with HARDY bailing on what was supposed to be his episode, and we go on a ride for what may go down as the greatest ad read of all time. Then, the three share their fatherhood experiences, Jelly talks about his early drug-dealing days, and Sha'Carri Richardson's suspension which leads to a conversation about what place recreational drugs have in sports. Moving on, Jelly and Ern shine some light on the Nashville rap scene, what it's like coming up as a white rapper, and more. The episode wraps up on a more serious note. Taylor opens up about his ACL recovery process (specifically how it has affected him mentally), the boys all discuss Bill Cosby early prison release, and Jelly Roll gets real talking about his vulnerable Instagram post about his mental health. Lock in, boys. Let's have a day. ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy Silverado: The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Bearbottom Clothing: Go to https://barstool.link/BearBottomClothingBUSSIN and use code BUSSIN to get FREE shipping on your first order. Cannadips: Head to barstool.link/Cannadips and use promocode – BUSSIN for 50% off the California Roll Credit Karma: Visit barstool.link/creditkarmawinmoney to open your free account and start winning Instant Karma. SLIQ (Jel Sert): Go to https://barstool.link/SliqSpiritedIceFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's 2021. That's your friend. That legs thicker than a snickers in a bowl of oatmeal. You're going to shit yourself again. Are you reading the eye line? I'll run it. Is that the next one? No fucking waste.

Jelly roll. No fucking waste. You remind me of Kevin Hart's theory of if you show up late, show up energetic, and I'll forget you're like. That's all you had a fucking d-d-d-d-d-d- you can. You came in here on a swap. I was saying that when I walked in, I was like... Now, listen, Ernest wouldn't feel that way if he didn't just wake up in the parking lot. I got here early, I went to sleep.

Dude, this has got to be the most redneck podcast to be there. Easily, it's about to be, yeah. No question. Look at that sweater. You like this thing, dude? Yeah. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, it's got 77 on the back, which I don't really want.

Because I don't need people to know, like, who I am all the time. Like, right? I'd rather just do that. Oh, you're the guy, and I'm the guy. I'm a big birth year number guy. Oh, yeah? I think a classic 69 or... I'm a big no-number guy.

We have this dumb joke on this podcast that if you wear another man's jersey, he has the right to fuck you. I think we stole it from Crystalia though, so it's not really our joke. Oh, that is a Crystalita. We do. We probably snake like 95% of our jokes from Delia.

It's a compliment. It's a compliment to the Delia. That's a real deal with it, dude. All right. Yeah, yeah. When I showed up today, I was like, God, of course, I'm going to get in the group chat with the two boys.

and then you guys are going to show up on time, and I'm going to show up. You know my favorite part? It's 1154. Did I make it? You have a watch on? Yeah, 1054, actually. My favorite part was Taylor said, what time do y'all want to go? I said, anytime afternoon.

He said, 12 it is then. I could have been 1205. My bad, dude. I was thinking about going like that early piece. I'm only got up early twice this year. This is one of the two. This is as early as you've gotten up? Literally, twice this year I've gotten up this early.

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And happy fourth boys. Yes. Let's go. Let's go. This is outstanding. Two my favorite people in all of Nashville on the bus. Let's kick to it. What would we do yesterday?

You guys went to Ernest's house? Listen, man, fuck Ernest. He showed up with the 12-pack of Taramana. I might have to go shit water any moment during this podcast. I'm holding one in as we speak. It has been, listen, this dude, I showed up with some liquor, for sure. Yeah. But Ernest showed up with a truck of liquor.

Sure. I mean, a truck with tap cocktails on it, like beer. Four different cocktails in a beer. I was like, this is whack. He's got old beer truck. This sucks. Then I went to the guy. I was like, what kind of beer do you got?

He's like, oh, no, we're not doing beer. We're doing coffee. doing cocktails. I said, on tap? He was like, yep. Ernest has created the menu. And let me tell you where I get fucked, Taylor, in this situation. I want to hear it.

I am a straight tequila guy. I know my devil and I dance with it well. Yes. But Ernest tricks me for every shot I take. He's like, try this mojito or whatever the fuck it is. So I'm like, whatever. And then I'll finish it. Be like, what was in that?

He was like rumming such and such and such and such and such. I'm like, fuck Ernest. Yeah, dude. We'll take another shot. I'd be like, try this peppermint. What was the cucumber thing you made? Oh, He had a fizzler.

What was the fizzler? What cucumber things you made for dealing with? I didn't make them. This, it's a tap truck Nashville. No free shoutouts. They better, they better send us in check.

No free shoutouts. Better send a check, tap truck. Check on the way. But yeah, dude, they hands, they hand squeeze

and make all their own, uh, cocktails, put it in a tap or a keg or whatever and tap it and run fresh cocktails all night. Really? And we got blitzed. I mean,

I can't tell if I'm hung over a drunk. I'm in that weird gray area. Yeah. You wake up and you're kind of like, I feel there's no hangover here. Yeah. And then 2 o'clock today, it's game over. Yeah, yeah. So I kind of need to get ahead of that.

No question. Hey, or the dog, do we have any here? I'm sure there's some whiskey or something around here. Oh, we do guys? Do you guys want some of that to just, well, it's going to help. Do we do? It's going to help. Yeah.

I mean, I'm mine. Yeah, I mean, it is the 5th of July. It is my daughter's birthday today. Oh, it is? It's her fourth birthday. Oh, it's her first birthday. She's like, Daddy, come play with me. I'm like, no, dad's got you do a podcast.

I'm on the bus, man. But I'll be bad. What are you talking about Blas? Right there. Oh, Ernest is hurting bad. He knows what's coming. He knows what's coming. And it's cold.

Is it really cool? It would have been bubbling. It would have been fucking. No, that's cold for the bus. That is excellent. It's colder than I. Yeah, I do you want. Oh, that's a lot of bubbles.

Oh, man. I'm telling you, if I take a shot of this, I'm going to have shit for sure. Hey. I heard y'all got a shitter. We got a shitter now. Shai, we have a clap for boys. This is the only clap you'll enjoy.

I want to go back in time to the first time I got on this bus to now and how far things have come. We've really done it, haven't we? Look at it. We're now going to sponsor athletes from the NCA because they fucked up. We had a PSA last week about it. But more importantly, we got AC. And I think that's the biggest thing. Huge win.

But you've actually dressed down from the first time you were on the podcast. What were you wearing? The first time I was wearing like camo pants and a Hawaiian shirt and Gucci slides. I would have worn my Gucci slides today, but I left them in Colorado. Ernest is barely here. Let's just start that. I mean, he is literally. I pulled up and he was drooling on himself in his truck with his aviators on and the truck. I was asleep when he got here.

What happened? I just got here and fell asleep. He had a fucking truck pouring out cocktail. I also have a baby. So like, normally you get done with the party and it's like, I'm going to go pass out. But we got done with the party. He's like, now I've got to stay up until two. See, you're a better man than me.

Like, my drinking experiences really got cut in half. Maybe more than that. Gentlemen, I love you all both and I'll be right back. I'm fixing to go shit water water. Oh, you really? Dog, I'm telling you, this is brutal, dude. There's a first for everything. Get out of here.

Fuck, Ernest. I'll be right back, y'all. This is a thing to be. I'm fiend to go past a fucking water or something. Hey, time yourself. Shit through a screen door and not hit a walk. I'm so happy. What a blessed.

Dude, what a blessed opportunity for this. I don't think he has, does he have an idea where he's going? Is it really? I thought these were painted for some reason. This is actually dark out there? He's wearing all black to you, dude. He doesn't get a chance.

He won't be able to see himself. He might shit himself. Alex goes, you good, brother? God, do we have anything? He need, we? Eight minutes in. The first time Jelly Roll was on this podcast, he made three dick jokes in eight minutes,

and now he's taking his shit within eight minutes. Yes. The man just sets, he sets the tone on every single podcast. Yes. Yeah, I mean, you sign up for Jelly Roll to get the tone set.

You really do. When, uh, so I, you know what? We talk about heartbreak all the time with this podcast, what we go through on a day-to-day basis. And Will and I recently went through some heartbreak on it with our teammates.

Uh, AJ Brown stood us up and followed by that. Derek Cameron ghosted me. I asked if you want to come with the podcast for 30 minutes. I need no response until after the podcast. my God. It was hard for this episode. I'll forgive them because they're good at football, but I'll never look at them the same.

Yeah, you shouldn't. And then obviously last week, Hardy, Hardy says he's going to come on the podcast. He's all about it. Now listen, I don't know Hardy. It was my first impression of him was it was a voice text. I'm apologizing 16 times. I love the voice text. He's about that too.

Yeah. Yeah. He sends a voice text. Actually, at first he sent the text saying, you know, I say, hey, boys, were we thinking? let's go podcast Monday whenever you guys want we can do whenever you guys want to do it he's all about it correct if I'm missing anything at any time

you let me know so far so good all right thank you hardy comes back what probably 48 hours before the podcast is supposed to start yeah two days afterwards it was like hey sorry guys I'm so sorry I didn't and to his defense if he thinks

like a music video is going he should be able to get two hours but sometimes the production team is like, we need you here at 8 a.m. and the tail lights at 8 p.m. And that sucks because he's probably only going to be used. Yeah, he's probably only going to be used for two and a half hours of actual recording time. Now, are we allowed to say who is it with?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the Tyler Farr song. The, I think, I don't know. Really? Well, yeah, I think it, or it's not Tyler Farr, Brantley Gilbert, the worst country song ever, right? I think it's that song. Is it actually titled the worst country song ever? Yeah.

Well, I love that. Yeah. This is the worst country song of all time. And it talks about like, I don't like sweet tea. I don't like all these things. And if you like that, then this is probably the worst country. And if you ain't like that, that's probably the worst country.

I like that. Yeah, that's a good little deal. Pretty clever little joint. So they're doing a music video. How many music videos have you done? I've done, one, two, three, like five or six music videos? You've done enough to know the process. Yeah.

You've done high production, probably done low production. You've probably done everything in between. All the types of production. And it's really a 12-hour gig. Why? It's all day because, I mean, everything's getting shot a couple times at least. Yeah. And then, you know, there's a lot of hurry up and wait,

which is my least favorite thing about doing anything is hurry up, we've got to da-da-da-da. And then you wait. And music videos are like that a lot where it's like, be here, be here at eight. You're going to do hair and makeup. They cut out two hours for it. It'll take 15 minutes. or then you're sitting, you know what I mean? It's a lot of that.

That's what you're sitting around doing. God, I see, as a person who never does music videos, you sit there and be like, that'd be so sick to go do those things. I feel like after two or three, you're like, fuck doing these things. Yeah, I don't think people, people really don't look forward. Like, I look forward to, like, the outcome of the music video, and I think music videos are dope and the art behind it. But, like...

Always have been. But, yeah, the... The act of doing it. I would rather act than, like, just do music videos, you know? I would rather have scenes and shit. Instead of a white backdrop and you're wearing all white singing at the camera. Yeah. It's like,

I wish music videos. I wish I could have that music video. I just got Tim McGraw. What's that Tim McGraw song? I went two point seven seconds on a bone name. Oh, live like you were done. First off, first time I heard that song, tears.

Yeah. Welting down. Written by Craig Wiseman. It was a great. It's a phenomenal song. Still is. Lives on forever. Yes.

But he, I'm pretty sure he's like an all white with a white backdrop. Black cowboy hat. A black cowboy hat. And it's just like slowly. placing things in the background little thing. Yeah.

And it's like, hey, Tim, let's hit that. Hey, that had to be a four minute, like four times. I guess the song's two and a half minutes. Yeah, but that's 15 minutes of work. But I'll bet you, I'll guarantee you that was a 12 hour day. No fucking way, dude.

But how many, oh, sorry, he was wearing jeans. He was wearing, I was really hoping for the all white words. He just floating head. They had the first iPad. He had the what?

The first iPad just popped up on screen. I remember my, uh, it doesn't that look like, like a crazy like a... Oh, you thought that was the first. I thought you were being serious. Like that's the actual first iPad. No. What are you sitting like that for, Tim? Go back. I'm telling you,

there's no way that Tim... Is this actually how the song starts? I don't remember it being like this. He's barefoot, too. Yes. You got to be barefoot. But the bootcut jeans. It's like the family portrait. Yeah, it is. It is like the family portrait. Yeah, the other three are still on the beach and dad's like, hey, let me go run over here and shoot a quick little

number. How'd you do? I feel like I gave birth to to a family of spider. Oh, regardless of killing Tim for the, he's sitting on a clear chair. You see the chair. Go back. You go back six seconds. You see the chair.

You're obviously the chair he's sitting on. Hey, Tim, we got this like great idea. We're going to have you suspended an air. Yeah. All right? You're going to hold a squat pose where you're doing your music video. We're just giving hardy hard time because he, he, I don't want to be that guy. We made the call to him to go on the podcast.

I knew I was your B player. Did you really? It's not even that. We were the C&D player behind AJ and Derek. No, no, no. Those were a few podcasts ago. Okay. Okay, I'm about to say, bro, we were like the fifth and six call.

I was the show. I don't want to open wounds, but you were my first text. Okay. And then I don't know. Here's the deal with Jelly Roll. Jelly Will came on the pod. Oh, had a great time with you. It was a wonderful, great conversation.

Can we talk about one second about how I just had to wipe my ass with dude wipes? Dude wipes was a sponsor. Was or is? was a sponsor of the pod. They did send us a check, so we'll still talk about them. Listen, let me tell you this. You don't have any toilet paper there. I don't know what dude wipes were designed for.

I thought it was something different than what I just used them for, but it also applied to that as well. Yes. When this podcast finally got a bathroom, it's everything I expected it to be. It had nothing in it at all. It was fucked completely out of toilet paper. It had a big thing of dude wipes and handset it.

It's busting with the boys. Bustin with the housewives. Somebody's those busts with the housewives they have little mince and toothpicks a fucking Yankee candle paper even if single ply

but I took what I could get So I feel like you'd rather have nothing than single ply Just know I'm squishing while I'm sitting Really? No first I'm surprised I'm bringing a 10 gin with me I fucking just shit out a whole

Mejito or whatever that shit was Ernest made me drink last What was the cucumber drink? We kind of bypassed that What was the name of cucumber Something? It was like a it's like a cucumber spreads.

I think it was like just white rum and like cucumber. Dude, I don't know. I only had one of them. What was the orange fizzler you had? The orange, well, the, was there an orange drink? There was a margarita. Oh, uh, margarita mohito. The cucumber was the fizz.

I think, so there was like cucumber soda, rum, something like that. But then at the end of the night, he was like, you're ready for the secret drink that isn't on the menu. Who's he? Who's this? The bartender. Okay. And I'm always ready for the secret drink getting on the menu. Well, why didn't wait to the end of the night?

Yeah, that's what, can we bust that out to start with? Yeah. So, but that was a blueberry vodka, blueberry cranberry vodka. Oh, it was fire. It's one that had a little bit of little bit. Incredible, with a little lime on it. You would assume the blueberry vodka had the blueberries in it. That's so good.

You would. You'd run that. But yeah, dude. At one point, Delaney comes up. She goes, how many drinks have you had? And I said, honestly, I was like, three and she was like no you haven't you've had one of all of the drinks on the cocktail list at least so that was five and then i started thinking okay and i had two of the mohita so and when i thought

three i probably had had seven and then we had about seven more what really he sounded like it was like that's how you would answer a cop how many drinks did you have a couple just a couple just immediately went into three well you had we had three shots as soon yeah it's always it's It's two or three. It's like, I'm willing, I'm willing to admit I've had more than one. But I'm not willing to admit I've had more than 10. We don't hit double digits here. So, sure, I'm very responsible, but thank you for asking.

So y'all were busting hardy's ass because he's doing something. Well, he's doing a video where he's been in the video. I'm not mad at him. I'm a little hurt because I don't know him, you know. You watch from a distance, obviously, when you're friends with you guys, you get to see everyone plugging on the Instagram. You see him kind of cruising around. And I'm like, what a cool.

opportunity. Get the boy in the pod. Ernest is a safety blanket in case he and I get on this thing and he goes it goes dead. Like we just sit there and stare at each other like there's no chemistry. He starts fucking doing the sirens. He starts pulling up, you know, recent events and shit like that. Well, I guess we'll hit a couple of these. So what do you think of this guy?

blowing up a toilet. Do you his hand off? Or whatever, you know, you get worried about those kinds of things. So I'm glad I had the safety blanket and then he dipped and then I don't know why I didn't think of you first. I actually do know why I'll get in that in the second. Oh, fuck. Well, Jesus, man.

Having a rough morning, Taylor. No, listen, we're going to air it all out and we're going to bring it out. We break it down and we build you up the way we watch it. You know what I'm saying? It's beautiful. I feel so great. I'm fucking in the reserves right now.

Hardy's got a music video to deal. I'm all about people making bank, doing the craft, right? So if you got to do content, go do your content, go make your money. We're making money on this podcast. We're making money on this podcast. You guys are making money. Thank you for coming. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? We're all making our craft right now. I'm losing money on this podcast. You guys are definitely losing something. I appreciate you all coming. I'm starting to have the shit again on this project. We're going to get at least 10 lights for that. John rolled through shit in our bathroom.

We have 10 diehard fans trying to get some feces out of that toilet and that clock. For whatever reason to have a marker, I thought about just John Hancock. You should have cocked it. That should be the new. It's Herbie Hancock. The bathroom wall should be the signature wall. That'd be cool until we have to end the lease in this place and not get our security deposit back. Or that is your security deposit.

You're like, no. You should give us a little bit more. You can see you sign this thing? Exactly. Yeah, that'd be badass. Yeah. But anyway, Hardy, I knew it was going to be this hard with you guys to get a full thought through. Hardy dips.

He's out. That's fine. I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. Right? And then I don't know why, but I was like, fuck, jelly roll and earnest would be an absolute dynamic duo, make it a trio. Yes. Put me in there, a little sizzle with a whatever.

Was this called tie-dye? Yeah. I thought I dressed a little spicy today. I got excited this morning. But then I was like, happy birthday to me. I'm like, get the fuck out of the way. Let me put this outfit on. Everybody you see, little boys.

Yeah. So I get to see you guys. And, but the reason why I didn't call the first time was a day or two after the podcast, I reached out. I said, hey, man, had a great time with you. Loved it. It was awesome. I got no response back. No way.

I didn't see that. I don't want to talk about it. So I was a little nervous texting you about coming on this podcast. But you were, you were hot to trot right away. I was like, fuck a guy. He let's go. We had to wait for his flyfish art that day. What was it with that?

Oh, yeah, dude, look, I didn't know how long that was going to be. I thought that was going to be a little 9 to 12 experience. But that ended up being 9 to like 3.30 with zero no. And with zero cell phone service. Like, I didn't even know what we, I woke up that day thinking I was like just chilling in a hot tub. And then they're like, hey, everybody, we're going fly fishing. And I'm like, I was with like three other songwriters.

and then there's like two other families who are sponsoring us letting us stay at their house. We're in Crested But Colorado, beautiful. But they're like, hey, we're all going. We got the slots. We're going to go fly fishing. I was like, I think I'm just going to chill. And they're like, no, you're going to want to go. You'll regret it if you don't.

I'm like, whatever. I'll go stay in a creek and get high and drunk. And that's what I thought. That's what I thought. But wouldn't you know that we get spread up and everybody's, you know, a half a mile away from each other? And I'm not the guy That has a cooler of beer or water Zill planning

Gum I didn't bring weed I didn't bring In Colorado? I thought of the end uprored on trees there My instructor had a pin Thank God that I got to hit a few times But dude I didn't bring nothing but a habit

And And I was in I was standing in You know most people would be knee deep water Beautiful Creek Looking at the mountains Like this is so nice And I'm like, when can I get back to service? I was like, this is pretty.

I've already soaked this in and I appreciate God's beauty. Right. Could use some cell service. Like, not catching any fish. Or a bottle of tequila. Party of one all day with no service. Yeah. I felt like I was on a youth group retreat.

So you didn't get in a pen. You catch any fish or anything like that? I didn't catch anything. Nothing. He didn't even catch a buzz. What do you do fly fishing at 3 o'clock for? I feel like. I don't know.

Apparently, there's a hatch that happens around noon. What's a hatch? I don't really like actual babies are coming out. All the flies show up and they're swarming around the water and that's what you're replicating with the fly on the line. Yeah. So, I mean, other people in my group caught fish. Lots of them? Like five or six, some of them.

I didn't catch nothing. Have you ever fly fish before? Never. You're probably doing it wrong. No, no. Hey, I will say I'm a natural. You give you an instructor. I'm a natural.

My instructor had me on fish. What the hard part is is the hooking them once they bite. Setting the line. Yeah, setting it is way harder than just like bass fishing. Because like, dude,

I don't know enough to tell you what I was doing wrong. I just know I didn't fucking catch any fish. So people are like, you're going to regret it. Here's a deal of people saying you're going to regret it. If you don't know what happened, you can never regret it.

So why don't you just say, nah, fuck that. I'm just going to stay in. I got your peer pressure. I got hard peer pressure into it. Because at the end of the day, I would have been the only one left that wasn't doing it. You looked like a real fisherman, though, man.

I thought this guy goes on with treats all the time. I swear it. I spent $200 that morning. You look happy. I told my daughter, I was like, I'm going to look like. Meanwhile, he took that picture of smiling. I was like, get me to fuck out of here as soon as it ended. I sent you all the one photo of me kind of smiling, but you should see the photos.

I took five photos. And I finally was like, you should probably crack a smile because I look, I look, I look pissed off, dude. I look pissed off. Yeah, dude. I look like a guy who doesn't have a damn water here. I'm just standing. Broke back Ernest, dude.

Broke back Ernest, right? Broke back Mountaine. You were mad as hell. You didn't know what you signed up for. That's what these guys are doing? Fuck, all right. He's hanging out there.

Whatever. Yeah. Well, goddamn. You ever been fishing? You ever do that? Yeah, we never, never did. Well, listen. I'd hate to cut you off, but we did start a new thing on the podcast.

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Taylor looked seriously and said giving something we could all do more of Ernest said, yep. Oh, God. I'm going to shit a rattlesnake this time. Oh, fucking shit, dude. What a day.

What a day. Fuck, I just woke up. Did you just wake up? It's new. I set the alarm for 11. You set an alarm for 11. What does that mean? You and I live totally different wives.

What time did you go to sleep? I told my wife that this morning I was like, I bet Taylor woke up this morning, worked out, had breakfast. I was asleep. I was asleep. I was going to sleep at 6.15. Cussing artist. Yeah, yeah. That is so funny.

Is that what time you got back from Ernest? No, fuck no. Left it like 10. So what are you doing? Just trying to sober up. I bet you weren't. I bet you weren't. I bet you're trying to sober down.

Oh my God, dude. I'm just, I got the sleeping schedule of a fucking meth head right now. It's been the worst schedule ever, dude. I sleep from like seven to three. I'm dying at time. Yeah, I couldn't do that. I'm a big early riser. even if I stay up late and party

I wake up. Before I had a kid I wake up at like 6 a.m. Do you really? Yeah, I can't help it. I do struggle getting up early. I have to. I don't want to.

I have to. But I wish I was like that. Yeah. Because if you're like, hey, your kids are going to go somewhere for three days, grandparents are taking them. I'll sleep until 10, hopefully. Yeah, I can't do that.

You can't do that. No, I would love to. Oh, dude. How's your life changed since having a kid, by the way, Ernest, since the last time I was at Spock gets had a child. Yeah. Has had a child. Yeah.

They brought another one of these into the world. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, everybody. Yeah. He's going D1 for sure. He's like 10 weeks old right now.

And it's pretty awesome. All the cliches, I said this on my podcast, all the cliches I heard are dead on. But like they continue to be true. You know, everybody telling you before the baby comes, like, get all your sleep. Yeah. It's like, first of all, what's it going to matter? Yeah. Me sleeping now has nothing to do with the 38 sleepless nights I'm going to have then.

Yeah. second of all he's finally now like really following with his eyes and smiling and shit and all of that is like uh he's so cool yeah he's a cute baby he's at that age where he was fussing like

one he was out with us most of the day yesterday he fussed one time and it was like that cute baby fussed and wham! Like as opposed to like that two year old you just scream and cry. I got that thing going on right now. I know exactly what you're talking about. Totally different cry.

You know what I mean? It's that cute like oh that's cute he's even like you're like you're like you're like Oh, look, he's upset. You know what I'm saying? Are you upset? The guy's like, get the fuck out of my face. Yeah, I'm starving here.

When there are two, it's more like, Jesus, make it stop. I'll do anything. I got one that's turning one on the 20th. And she is, the kid is awesome. She's all time. We got a puppy. Puppies chew it on her legs and stuff like that. And she just back hands the dog and keeps her crawl going.

Yes. But she is the loudest child ever. I don't think she'll talk till she's six. So scream. I'll be eating and she'll just start screaming and I'll ignore her. And she'll just keep screaming and screaming. Finally, I'll look at her and she'll go, and she'll point out exactly what she wants.

She's got her own little form of communication. Like she is the loudest child. I've been around a bunch of other people and they're like, this is the loudest baby I've ever been. And that's the one year old? That's the one year old. She's awesome though. But you have one turn four or five today?

She turned four today. Okay. Today she turned four. Yeah, that's crazy, dude. That's starting to get to the glory. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. My wife and I were talking last night.

we're sitting there watching narcos. I'm working on my Spanish. You're going to know the right stuff to say, I promise. She made a point, like, we met, and then six months later, like, this kid was born. Like, she got pregnant, not born. Obviously, it doesn't work. That's not the time. I was saying.

Sorry. All the scientists. Sounds like God was involved in that. But six months later, she got pregnant. And it's like, we not only have her and I's relationship growing up, but her, she has also just grown up with us. And we've all like kind of, it's just crazy to see that she's four years old now. Yeah.

Watching when she's, and you get the like the cliche dads, right? You know, don't miss it. Don't blink. It's going to go. It's going to go away fast, you know? And it really does. It's crazy how like with her little babies. And now she's four and she's the bossiest child.

Did that fly though? Like, dude, it's, I can't believe it. Yeah. I mean, we've been married for five years now. And, uh, I can't believe we've been married for five years. Yeah. Coming up on five years in January. Isn't that wild?

Yeah. You have no idea how the time flies like that. And I celebrate our fifth wedding anniversary in August. Really? So look at us. We're all on the same page. But kids men, kids are cool as shit. Don't have them if you're not ready. Because it's a lot of work. Yeah, that's the way I approached it.

I'll speak from experience. Yeah, for sure. If you can be ready, be ready. Because I wasn't. Yeah. But it's been cool, though. She just turned 13. You're talking about time flying. This is like the first summer of hers that I'm like, even though I'm the cool dad. She's like, I don't care how fucking cool you are. I want to hang with the homies. Yeah. And I'm like, what?

I'm like the coolest. I am the homie. I'm the, I fucking like, you're looking for the homies? Yeah. I've been your only homie. There was a time she didn't know

homies existed. I was it. But she's like, yep, all that's cool, but I'm going to the ball with my home girl. Don't follow us. Don't come to the mall

and leave us alone. I'm like, they go to the mall still? It's a thing, man. That fires me up, man. Getting dropped off at the mall is electric.

I didn't know. It was real. The mall's bait time. You go to the mall with your friends. You look at all the stuff you can't buy. You just walk around for three hours. Such a waste of time. I don't know how it would be with a little boy, but with a little girl, it's a little

different because it's stuff they can buy. My son called me for money. You're like, fuck you. The daughter calls like, Dad, I just really want this cute shirt. And she's, I'm like, okay. Oh, yeah. I'm cash apping you now. And then I realize, like, why the fuck does my 13-year-old have a cash app call me?

So I can fucking get my bank account fucking molested every fucking month. You know what I'm saying? Jesus. I think of that much every month. See, my dad would give me like a $20 bill and take me to a dollar general. And I got to go in there and ball out. Yeah, you have like six bags walking out with $20.

Yeah. Yeah. I walk out like Jim Dangal. Genuine ostrich. No, there's three payments. This is, this is. Just giving a bit of good. The moment I knew I was going to go to jail at an early age

was when they gave me $20 to go to a dollar store across from Cameron Middle School on Murphinsboro Road right down the street. from here and I would go buy candy and then I went and sold it. So I'd go buy this candy and sell it. And the next day my dad was like, you need some lunch money? I was like, nope, I'm cool.

I'm cool. I was just flipping fucking candy money, dude. Business man. I was the fucking candy man. You got the blue airheads in the right pocket and red ones right here. You had the kid opening up the code. He's got all the shit you need. You got the moreheads, everything you need.

Remember how they had the store in middle school that you'd go and buy like pens and stuff? When I realized that was a thing, I took over that market. So then I had candy. He's telling school some of the pencils. I was, I don't know, fuck, 11, 12, 13. I was middle school, 7th, 8th grade.

You're doing the handshake exchange with a tutsy roll? I was like straight fucking huffer. Yeah, I had a whole thing going. And my brother tells me all the time, he was like, yep, that's when I knew you were going to juvenile, shortly thereafter. Sure enough, by the ninth grade,

it was dime bags of pot. Yeah. Better money in that than you. Oh, yeah, fuck it. It fucked the candy money up, and I could get high. Well, and you get in the 10th grade, kids quit giving a fuck about

candy and start giving a fuck about weeds. In the 10th grade, people were doing Coke. What school were you going to? Not Lipscomb. I didn't know about Coke until college. I saw that the first time. I was like, holy shit. Didn't know about Coke until Jelly Rolls first time on the bus.

I was in here sweating it out that day. Dude. I'm just sweating out. I can't get over the AC in here, man. How nice is it? Compared to last time? Dude, it's fucking. Listen, I just came here.

I was like, this is fucking. the fucking boys, dog. Jesus Christ, son. There's a fucking shitter there. They got a whole set built outside. Yeah, we got a nice little thing going on with the set. You're right. Yo, is the ice cream spot still two, three doors down?

So they used to... I owned an ice cream truck when I was in the streets. I shit you not. It was one of my coverups. And I used to come get ice cream from right here. There's a lot of drug dealers in this podcast. We're not going, shut the fuck up, man. Every ice cream truck.

Get the fuck out of the car. Hey, that's that snow cone mobile. They're selling snow for real out of there. Oh, dude, snow's in July. That's real. Right here around this new area, they had the, like, good shit. Like the sponge bobs and the door of these. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, that shit was bullshit, dude. You pull up, you see the picture, it looks awesome. You get out. He's got, like, one eye down here and shit. Where the fuck do you make the sponge bomb that, dude? It was generic knockoff. No, we had the hustle, man. This was the spot.

Dude, I just come over here, like, once a week and load the ice cream truck up. Load the ice cream truck up. Yep. Yeah. Hey, Jelly, I know we talked about this in my podcast, but speaking to juvenile, tell Taylor where you watched the Music City Miracle from. Is that why you plug that? Yeah. Hey, listen, for those of you that don't see my monitor, that's right here.

Alex just popped up. Jelly Roll was at the Music City Miracle, kind of. And I'm like, what a weird fucking segue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would I bring it up right now? No, I was there. I actually got to witness this. It was a historic day in Nashville history.

Right from my cell. in the B-pot of the juvenile facility. I could see it straight out the window. So I could see the other Megatron. Let's still back to the winder talking. What the fuck was that? We're not starting this shit today. What the fucking.

The fucking. Winder. You pulled that out of it. You've been talking, you've been enunciating everything. You live on the window. You sleep on a pillar. God damn it. Somebody bagged me up here.

I got you. I got you. But I've seen it right through there, man. It was fucking a magical moment. They had ourselves in the B-P. pod right there on the corner. Ernest Sands was like, you said, I was like, oh, dude, I was there. I was as close as you could get outside of the stadium.

I said, where'd you sit? He goes, juvenile. It was awesome, dude. It was a historic. Listen, my dad went to the game and he stopped outside the cell window and waved at me. I was like, what's up, Pops? Yeah. And then I went and watched the rest of the game and he was in there.

It was like the screen. You can see the big screen? Yeah, you can see the screen. There's a juvenile hole right next to the Nissan Stadium. Right next to the Nissan Stadium. Really? Yeah. I mean, like, in the fucking parking lot.

Like you could piss from porch to fucking entrance. What? Great building where y'all would pull into. Yeah. On the S lot? Yeah. Yeah, that's the juvenile center. Holy shit.

Yeah. Man, your boy, just learning shit every day. Yeah, for sure. Educational podcast. Yeah. I'm learning geographically.

What's going on? You should come with me next time I go back up there. To the juvenile hall? I'll go up to like once a year and sing songs and talking shit. Do you really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's awesome.

I want to go. Come on. Yeah. What are they? What do you just go in there? That's going there and talk to the kids. That's some kids upset in theirself for a little bit. To do that.

Nothing makes it. Listen, because when I was in there, it was like nobody like us ever came to see us. Right? So like, God bless them that Gideons would come and slide a Bible under your thing, which I appreciate.

And I read it, right? But they'd be like, have a good day, young man, in a suit and a tie. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't like nobody cool was ever coming in. Like, yo, let me talk to y'all about how shit can be okay for you.

Yeah, yeah. So like, I don't talk about it much because I'm not like one of those pet me on the back guys. As I got more successful, I go back anywhere from one to three times a year. I think getting out is a big deal because a lot of those kids is like a statistic. You go in there like under 18, you're all, you're back in and out always. And nobody ever came in there and showed hope. You know what I mean?

Like nobody ever came in there that was cool like tatted up. Like fucking Taylor Luans in here. Fucking Ernest is in here like fucking cool people that they're like they can look at and be like, yeah, okay, this isn't like. Because they got some dude in there with a degree that's trying to tell you about how to make better decisions. You're like, what are you talking about? I don't know one person. You know what I mean?

I don't, you know, like, get the fuck out of here. But you get somebody they relate to and I just feel like that helps. So yeah,

we should go one day. Yeah, I'm 100% down with doing that. That'd be awesome. We used to do, this is kind of, kind of different, but at Michigan

they had Mott's Hospital with the Children's Hospital. We go there every Thursday during the season. And I was thinking about getting on that train again here somewhere in Nashville. I think it's,

I mean, those people sitting in those hospitals, those kids sitting in juvenile. Daymaker. Dude, you go out there, talk to him a little bit and it doesn't take any but five minutes of your time to change

their life possibly. I'd be super down to go do that. Let's do it. For those kids like how how did you and you're, how did you decide like I can't be in the shit anymore? Because I feel like drug dealing, now I've been watching narcos. I feel like what drug dealing like that's a hard business to get out of. You start making a lot of deals with people

and then people are expecting things out of you and you stop giving them what they expect. I don't know how that shit works but explain it to me. Well for me it was like the dream was my way out, right? I just, like, I got to the point where I fell in love with the dream of music so much that money didn't matter. And when that happened, my whole life changed. Because before that, it was like, I need money.

I don't care about nothing else. Let me go find money. Fuck a dream. Fuck a future. I need money right now. I don't care what it takes to get there. I don't care what problems come my way behind said money. I want money right now.

Then I got to the point where, like, the dream of being a musician was so much greater than any money could bring. that it was like, I didn't care if I was like, I remember pulling back to my neighborhood one time proud of like this 96 conversion van I had that I was touring out of. Yeah. I was proud of it.

I like pulled back in to see the homies. I was like, yo, I've been touring this thing. I just did 100 shows and I'm showing on my little sleep bed that I created in the back. Yeah.

And this is the same dude that once owned like 12 cars. Yeah. In that same neighborhood with like rims on them and shit. But I came back like happy like, man, y'all got to see this shit, man. Because in my mind,

the fact I just did a show Missoula, Montana was a fucking big deal. Yeah. Nashville rap artists, getting out of the city and going and playing shows out of the city, like, that's a big deal. And going and touring because there's a lot of, there's a lot of really good talent in Nashville and the hardest part that I've seen, and correct me if I'm wrong, but getting out of the city is the toughest part and it's tough to ever pop in this city without getting out

of the city. Why is it so hard to get out of this city? Because this city is viewed as a country. Yeah, yeah, we're just over. I just in the last couple years, like, started getting respected around town outside of the urban community, right? And thank you. Shit like busing. Shit like that has helped so much.

Ernest has been such a liaison for me on the countryside. Like, country artists would not fuck with me until Ernest did. Really? And I'll say it publicly, I don't care. When Ernest started fucking with me, we've known each other forever anyways. But when Ernest was like, I don't give a fuck what y'all think. This is my boy. He's a hell of a songwriter.

yeah he rass but he's bigger than that instantly the DM ping ping ping ping ping you feel me like it just changed everything like people started being like okay maybe this is worth I quietly built like a huge business in this town that never even got winked at because it was so different than what everybody else does musically here you know what I'm saying yeah so it's like he's right on the nose like for me all them cars they didn't mean shit the fact that I just went to the show in fucking bozeman fuck y'all man I'm fucking I didn't sell them but 65 tickets, but boy, they were 65 people to love me. Yeah.

You know, it was like, it was like, it's like when you have a bad golf game, but you par number three. They're like, how'd you play today, man? I mean, I part the shit out of number three. What that really says is I suck 17 holes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, for me, it was like the logistics didn't matter. I was on tour.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? The fact I was sleeping in this old beat-up ass van, side note to the fact I just went did 100 shows. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So for me, you go across the country, northwest. Oh, yeah.

And people know who the fuck you are. that's badass. That was huge for me. That to me is like when we went to a Will's wedding, I was in like, I went to a bar. We talked about in the last podcast and the owner of the bar knew who I was. I thought that's the coolest shit ever. I'm just like an offense alignment. You don't think outside of Nashville, anyone's really you get to fuck who you are.

And people like, you know, there's guys in my teams. There's guys all over the league that like don't care about that. But someday if you don't do anything after football in the spotlight, you're going to go somewhere, you're going to go to a grocery store and you're like a guy. You probably played sports before. Right. But no one's going to know who the fuck you are.

And I think people need to do a better job of soaking that in. How cool that is is that people care about you enough to view you all the way across country. They have totally different issues, different stuff going on in Bozeman, Montana than they do in Nashville, Tennessee. Right. And these people are still listening to you and listening to you and picking up on that. That's badass. That's insane. Y'all have also gotten big because of the podcast bubble.

It's crazy. A lot of people, there's people that I know that do not watch sports that watch this fucking podcast. Isn't that ridiculous? Yeah. For sure. Ernest is the same way. You don't know how many times a day now. From people I would never think would listen to Ernest

have came up to me like, you're not a goddamn concrete expert. I'm like, that's fucking great. That is fucking great. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, yeah, baby. No, you're not. But hey, I learned my lesson from you

because I got my driveway paved last week and I was pulling back up my street. And boy, if I wasn't about to take a right turn, and I was like, they just paved this. Park in front of the house. You know what I love about Ernest? His little nephew was going to do some of those snap poppers.

yesterday. Yeah. And this is how you know Ernest's got pride in that new driveway. He goes, oh,

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, on the sidewalk, not the driveway. The sidewalk,

not the driveway. Bro, they've got sidewalks in Nashville. On the little, the sidewalks yeah, to go up

to walk up to the door. Yeah, what's the walkway? The walkway, the walkway, the walkway, not a sidewalk.

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What's a gorilla thumbnail? Baby, it's a big old house. A big glob of... We did a horse fly. We're talking about one of those. Can't go gorilla thumbnail the horse fly. What the fuck? That's the same thing?

Those are synonyms. Yeah. Yeah. It's range. size. You know what's bigger? A gorilla nail or a horsefly? I'd have to see them beside each other.

Depends on the gorilla. We're talking baby gorilla here. Yeah. Yeah. We did a big old one. Have you thought about CBD at all? You ever try that? Yeah, yeah.

I've been working with Game Up Nutrition. Game up nutrition. Yeah, I love them guys, man. They're really good people. It's one of Nate Diaz's properties. They sent me some shit and I got into it. It's been cool. I'm a big fan of Nate.

the is how he doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't. That's not a press conference. Like under the table, like the smoke's not going to show up. The best part is when they asked them about it. His rep was like, yeah, that's his own cannabis line. You know what's crazy?

That that's the only state that he was allowed to do that in. Nevada? No, no, they fought in Arizona that time. Arizona doesn't care about weed at all as far as the athletic commission. So it's like, dude, I mean, what a genius way. And it was his own brand, the kill four to no nine.

Didn't he pass the blown off to somebody in the audience? Yeah, he does it every time. Yeah, for sure. That's amazing. God, I had a friend, this family I grew up with in high school, they, they opened up their own marijuana company in Arizona. They have the largest indoor grow. Really? And all of Arizona right now.

Gold mine. No question. True infusion CBD. True infusion 2.0, I believe it is.com. But they got CBD. They do all the gummies. I know, I guess, what was it? Kada dips, but not a fate of the gummies.

But they crank those things out like nothing. I've been to their, like, warehouse. Dude, it's like an operation in there. It's a highly functioning business. I'm going to go see a grow in a couple weeks in Michigan. Really? And one of my homies runs a grow, and he wants me to come by and give me the tour. And that's like one of my dreams.

I mean, I've seen a plant, but I haven't seen. When you see a lot in your place and it's just filled with plants. A factory. It's just dollar bills everywhere, dude. $100 bills. Oh, the smell. I love the weed from like places like Arizona and Michigan, especially though because we know it's indoor weed.

Yeah. You don't have a season that you can grow outdoor weed. You know what I mean? So you don't have to worry if you're getting something greenhouse or something off the side of a mountain area. That Mickey Mouse Snickle for it. You're getting some greenhouse, baby, for sure. Dude, that's just that as well. I wonder what they're going to do in the NFL about all that with marijuana stuff.

I hope they do. Case leads more talk changing marijuana rules. This whole marijuana thing is crazy to me because we go through the CBA, the collective bargaining. agreement. The NFL goes through that all like every few years or however, whatever long it is. The last one was in 2011 before this previous one two years ago. And it's just, if you think about it's a billion dollar businessmen and their lawyers versus a group of ex-NFL players and the lawyers we can afford. You know, so it's like you're never going to win the battles you want to win,

but it's it's crazy to me how many players wanted to change the marijuana rule. And the way it was before was, on 420, believe it or not, is when they could test you. They could test you from 420 to the end of camp, which is like 6.15, June 15. That's petty. Then they can't test you again until camp, and then you have two weeks of camp.

That's the time they get to test you. Now, if you're not dumb, you will, obviously, and you do smoke, it's like, Kay, just stopped smoking a month before April, 20th, and then if you don't get tested, wait until after camp. But guys were so busy trying to get the marijuana

to be changed and it got changed to they can only test in camp now so the first two weeks of camp it's like that's what the business thing comes into is like anything you give like anything you give up like you want you want more marijuana rules like like restrictions lifted on that you have to give up x y and z an extra game or something you know you don't know what goes hand in hand right but if they give you something they got to get something so it's i think it's a matter of time before it's legal through all sports especially when it goes wreck nationwide i think all the the conversation because of what's home girl's name that is not going to be able

to do the Olympics. I'm glad we brought that up. I think what I've seen just on social media, the conversation is going that direction of like she doesn't, that is not a punishment

to hands in drug. At all. Trust me. You win a couple sprints? I don't want to sprint. In fact, she wants to sprint after smoking. The best, the best,

the best means. I seen was a dude said that that makes that 10.8 second run that much more impressive. Yes. Like you're telling me she's a cannabis user and fucking, listen, that's fucking insane. They got to stop it, man. You got to, you got to, I think it's fucking. You know what I did respect was what Nike said. What they said?

They were just like, yo, we're backing her. Like, she was honest and we're going to back her. Good for Nike. Where most sponsors are like, oh, got a dip right now. Controversy. They were just like, no, man, she was honest with us. Yeah. For Nike to stand by that is a good.

I mean, that's a power company. It also shows you where marijuana is going in the direction. People don't see it as a big deal anymore. No, for sure. You know, I remember when I was growing up, it was like, Oh shit, that was terrifying. You had the dare. People come in, the cops talk to you about selling drugs.

Then all of a sudden, your own coke and heroin and all that shit. There was a dare tent set outside of GNC one day. And I was, I was walking in there. And she started to talk and I said, I'm using. I don't even know. I feel too bad to sit through this. Right. I'm currently high.

So let's not do this. That's a whole other argument, too. Like the whole war on drugs is like, my dude says it best, man. He's like, look, we need to accept that drugs won the war and figure out what to do now. So do you think all drugs should be? I think that. Legal.

So I should finish that sentence. Yeah, within reason, right? I think that if we can, I would much rather have, I had a, so heroin use has affected my family extremely personal. We talked about this on the podcast. We all know this, right? So it's like I fear, and I've lost so many people I love to overdoses, that I wish there was some way to regulate that. So I could not, you know what?

I mean, I understand there's always going to be a black market for it, right? But it's like I feel like there's a way to regulate it that we could solve so many deaths a year of overdose and fentanyl and restrictions of things that if we were just more open and honest to be like, man, we need to figure this out as a, as a, as a nation how to fight this and at least regulate it, right? Because to this day, the way pills are pressed, I won't take a percocet unless I, or a Lortab unless I get it from a doctor. Because I'm afraid of what it is on the street.

But these other people, which I also would only take a Lortab if I needed it, right? Because my drugs of choices are marijuana, liquor and the occasional sniffer, right? But I'm not like, you know what I'm not like, you know, I'm not like. Killing out. Right. Yeah. But it's like, but it's like, but it's like. I know people on pills that I worry about every single day.

And I'm like, man, I wish there was a way to regulate that. And I didn't have to go to sleep every night, wondering if tonight's the night you got a press pill. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Well, yeah, pills are such a scary thing because when you first start taking them, it's like, it's not like they're paying killers. You forget they're ever, pain never existed. Like, you just feel amazing.

Yeah. You know, you get in, the Titans are really good about it. They're really smart about what they give you and how they give you things. But there's, there was a point in time. And I know guys talking when they used to play in the NFL, it's like, if you had anything, It was like take a handful of these and you'll be fine. Right. Well, the issue is you start taking a handful of those.

And after a while, a handful doesn't do anything anymore. Yeah, right. You keep bumping that up, bumping that up. And then you're like, okay, you know, hey, you got to stop. Yeah. It's amazing how many pills you can end up taking in a day when your tolerance is. Yeah. Yeah.

I can't imagine. It's crazy and it's so easily accessible. Right. So I understand what you're saying. It's just that's a weird, it's a hard road to go down. And for me to be like, yeah, for sure. Because it's like, well, okay, what do you do then? Do you say, hey, you can, like, for me to look at somebody say, you can buy heroin now, it's, that's a crazy idea.

Well, in Canada, they have, like, clinics to where addicts will go just, like, to a minute clinic type facility, and a nurse will administer you a non-lethal dose because their problem was so bad. They treat it like a disease versus a crime. Really? And that, I mean, that's one option. Now, there's obviously, like you're saying, there's going to be a wrong side to it, of course. There always is. But what it all comes back to to me is. if we're just talking about weed,

you can eliminate a bunch of other bullshit, especially for NFL players and pain management and just athletes in general. I think weed is a great way to recover. I'm recovering today with weed. Not just weed, but like, I mean,

the CBD thing we kind of briefly touched on. It's like, I mean, that stuff is there's literally no THC in there, like not enough to get you high at least. So it is one of those things, like maybe you should start looking down more holistic ways of treating

these types of issues for players, but for anybody in general. My experience is my experience because I'm an athlete, right? So if CBD helps and it doesn't hurt, then what's the problem? I think that goes for any drug. But as far as this, what was the lady's name, Shikari? Shikari Richardson.

Shikari Richardson. Sad. It's a huge bummer. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to play devil's advocate. I don't believe what I'm saying, but it's like there are rules put in place. So if you want to run, you can't piss hot.

You just can't. Right. And this is coming from a guy that got pot for a P. in 2019. Like, I didn't know I was taking it, but at the same time, I pee and I still have to suffer

the consequences of what's going on. Do I think she should be able to run? No question. It's not like she had like, you know, some sort of drug that makes you fast. I don't know what makes you faster. You know what I'm saying?

Do you want to dope in like freaking blood transfusion. Yeah, exactly, doing all that shit. And I think that's more for endurance earnest, but we'll touch on that later. I think,

I don't know anything. When we're talking about the weed side, I can talk a little educated. We talk about running, exercise. Yeah. I'm just here to watch. been working out a lot, though. I did.

Oh, did. Yeah. I mean, I kind of fell off the wagon. Sorry, Wilson. Is it the volleyball or who are you talking to? Wilson is our trainer. That's hilarious. Sorry, Wilson's my best friend. I don't know who by Wilson is. Wilson is our trainer. No free shout. Wilson's our trainer. But yeah, I tried doing it the first couple weeks of having the baby. And then it was like, if I'm going to work out, it has to be like first thing in the morning. Got to be. And some of these, once the adrenaline of having a. brand new baby wore off and it was just fatigue and sleep deprivation when when the sun came came up it's like I don't want to go work out right now right so that's why I'm not an

NFL athlete well I mean it happens to everybody I mean if you don't work out in the morning for me if I if I don't work out in the morning getting up at in the evening time after the kids go to sleep is it it's a it's a really difficult thing to do yeah structures are very difficult thing to obtain but I get it having a newborn kid are you back working out full like completely yeah yeah I'm back My favorite tweet from you as a Titan fan was whenever you was like, fell, twisted my knee,

got straight up, walked off. I was like, Motherfucking. I'm back, baby. Reading the first half of the tweet, I was like, get the fuck out. Yeah, dude.

I was halfway through because I don't read ahead and I was like, it's gonna be bad. Oh, I see the board on the ladder there? Oh, shit. You do have a sidewalk. Look at them.

That's at Wilson's house. Listen, Earn is a fucking athlete trapped in an alcoholic's body. That's exactly right. I couldn't have said it better myself. Sling that ball too, dude. No.

But back when I was playing, I was an alcoholic trapped in an athlete's body. If you went back and do baseball again, would you do anything differently? Did you say I throw the first pitch of the sounds again? I didn't see it, but I saw you prepared for it. Yeah, if I were to go back and play baseball again, like at this age or if I could go back and do it again. You know what you know now. Now you're going back to you're 14 years old and you're starting over. I wouldn't have even worried about playing any position other than pitcher.

Yeah. Like I would have just really wanted to. be a pitcher only and not spend any extra time doing other things and probably would have put on more weight like which is ironic because back in high school and I think we talked about this I'm like I thought I was fat in high school and like was super self-conscious about my body image and then now you have a picture of him now I'm this size and freaking throwing almost as hard as I was when I was playing and I feel like I should have just put on some weight and lifted a lot more when I was playing but I'm thankful I didn't because I love making music yeah music is why I quit

baseball yeah so you don't regret anything no and I love I love now that I get to go I mean getting to throw first pitch at a sounds game is a dream yeah I used to go to sounds games at the old Greer Stadium all the time growing up really yeah that's like I've always wanted to throw a pitch out somewhere there was freshman year college and you thought you were fat there yeah god you look great I mean I don't know what's good the t-shirts baggy but you know I look good I look really good. That was my first mullet. We all, everybody on the team shaved their heads except for me.

I just shaved the sides. God, that's outstanding. You kept that going for a while. Yeah. I think it's great. I'm glad there's nothing you, like, there's nothing you can go back and doing Johnny Mansell. Stony, Bologna, senior year of high school right there. God.

I mean, solid. I would keep the hair, though, probably. I was writing wraps for sure that night. I know that. I knew something about that kid. Yeah, that kid knew jelly. are. Yeah.

I knew jelly. New jelly back then? Yeah. What were you doing? What year was that? That was 2010 or 11? Yeah. What were you doing 10 and 11?

I just got back from a little vacation. Yeah. State funded one. A court ordered one. A court ordered and state funded vacation. So I've always been a rapper. I've always wrapped. I've always been a local hip-hop kid.

So it's like... And you never did sports. I don't want to cut you up. If you were ever in a... sports at all? I played sports in early middle school. Okay, but they never really transferred over to high school. I'd already decided to be

something totally different. Yeah. In hindsight, wish I'd have took that route, right? You know, but I'd already the candy man had already advanced into stuff that was not football friendly. Yeah. I was already making those kind of decisions. He was selling pink footballs.

That's exactly right. That shows me how much of a little Druggie you are. But see, I was also, it's like, back then, I don't know if we touched on this before, if I've ever touched on this, but being a white rapper was rare. Like, you're old enough to remember the era of like, there was like a time where there was like four white rappers on earth it felt like. Right.

You know what I mean? Like literally. So it's like you think about me coming up in that era of rap. So all through Nashville, everybody who rap, black or white I knew. But if you were white, I really heard about you. Yeah. Like, because people would immediately come to me like, yo, there's a white kid going to this high school, you know, doodoo. He goes by snow.

That's this kid. You see what I'm saying? So I'm like, okay, dope, let me hear something. You know what I mean? Like, it just all kind of came. The Nashville hip hop community is really small, really small. So, like, everybody knows everybody. It's growing up.

It's like the country community. Yeah, it is. Like, I tell people all the time that everybody in the, there's a, there's a, there's a, a million singers and songwriters in America, probably more, that are just trying to meet 40 people. Because there's only really 40 people that make a fucking difference on that street over there.

You know what I mean? So it's like maybe 50. So it's like in our business, it's like maybe 30 rappers in town that are like really trying to chase it, maybe 40. I'm sure there's a lot more kids making music in the basement.

But there's probably seven that could sell out of club. You know what a six that can sell out a club? That's pretty easy to know who's who. You know what I mean? So yeah, came to me earlier and he was super dope. Ernest is like a rapping motherfucker. He sounds like he sounds like he's right fucking here.

But he sounds like you can just kind of do anything at this point. I thought that was a big like alternative punk rock kid and I was on his podcast and throws up, you know, some shit that sounds like taking back Sunday all of a sudden. No, no, no, he's a, the first time you put that thing on your tongue and pointed at me and said, do you want one?

I had a mental moment where I was like, is he tripping fucking ass? Because you went like this I was like, is he fucking going? He's wearing his dazing confused hockey jersey today. He was just reaching at fucking demons in a second dude. He showed up in fucking a dot-out.

You just got done recording a new album movie. You showed up super hype and I was like, maybe he's double dose of hot. That's the fucking day, son. Taylor Luke gone. Taylor, Loungon. Oh, listen, your boys are going to definitely not do so hot on this one.

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Yeah, let's go back and talk about this. I was terrified of reading these things out loud. I was like people are going to know I'm exposed. I can't read good, you know. You can read defense. I can barely read defenses. I said, Ben Jones, tell me what to do, baby. And now we read them all the time because why?

Sometimes you got, sometimes you got to expose yourself to get better. The best part is when you went, do-do-do. That's fucking, dude, who did that? My life is about just stealing people's shit. I think that's a Dane Cook joke. He talks about growing up. No, no, no, no. And he goes, that's the sound of growing up.

Dan Cook had a moment. Dan Cook, I've looked a lot into Dan Cook. When I was, like, in 7th, eighth grade, like, Dan Cook was the shit, like the number one comedian. He's a great cusser. He's a great cusser. Like, I know that sounds funny, but you know what I mean? Like, the emphasis he puts on cuss words.

Yes. He, like, fuck, it's really hard when he says it. Do you have you seen the things about him stealing jokes from people? Yeah. Yeah, that's a bummer. But I would, if I was a comedian, You got that from him too. Yeah, I still have jokes also.

He's still a joke from Lewis C.K. And there's actual conversation about them like in person. And Louis C.K. calls him out. And you see the jokes side by side. And they're fucking identical. And then Louis C.K. showed him his dick. Yeah. But he told him he was going to show him his dick before he did it.

So it makes a difference. Fair enough. And he's a big comedian. True. Speaking of comedians, Bill Cosby's out of jail. What the fuck's that about? How did he get out of jail? Didn't he like a roofie?

I don't know. Listen, I'm not trying to sound insensitive. I'm literally just trying to ask questions for all those people out there. So he was convicted, and then the Supreme Court has overturned it because there was a violation in his due process. So basically it was paperwork and the way that they're supposed to do things in court was not followed to protocol. And so he basically is out on a technicality. Had a great lawyer. Had a great lawyer.

Outstanding lawyer. Somebody get that lawyer's name for me. Future reference is important. So he's just out now. Yeah, he served three years. It was a three to ten years. sentence. Let me ask you this. He only served three years?

Well, he was only 10 total? It was a three to 10 years sentence. Yeah, 10 total and he served three. My question is this, what? Is it a spoof? Or was he really walking out of the courthouse doing, though? I saw that. That was like a couple years ago, though.

That was on his way to jail the first time. That wasn't him getting out of jail. That was him on his way. That was him on his way to jail. Yeah, for him. Like, no fucking way that's him coming out of jail. I was like, dude, I seen him. That shit, that was funny, though.

That's funny. listen. I was like, fucking, it takes a certain kind of guy to do that, man. I've never changed my stance nor my story. I have always maintained my innocence. Thank you to all my fans, supporters, and friends who stood by me through this ordeal. Special thanks to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court for upholding the rule of law. All right. I don't know if I'm down with that shit.

I don't know if I'm down with him getting out. That's crazy. That's, fuck, that's, he affected. How many people did he, like, it was rape, right? Yeah, I mean, it was allegedly. I think he was convicted Oh yeah OJ allegedly

I see now I see now so he was convicted But they had to throw it out because of Oh he was raped and raped Okay Allegedly he was like oh no Well then that's rape Oh dude that's fucked up man

Especially the guy that's on top of the world Like he's a comedic genius He is and he was clean comic Like he was a family comedian He was about not cursing Like that was his thing. Yeah. God, comedy is a hard thing, man.

Guys like Josh Wolfe and Theo Vaughn that's now moved to Nashville. It's like that's got to be a hard thing to go stand on stage and talk to people and make them. I think that's one of the toughest gigs, dude. It's got to be the hardest gig. Five minutes is a long time. Especially in this era. Yeah. You can't be a comedian no more.

Dude, you know what I mean? Like, dude, you used to be able to say whatever the fuck you want. And that was like cool. Now it's like, dude, they're trying to still a place for that. They're trying to cancel comedians. That's when the world went to. Oh, that's fucked up. Let that be a safe place.

Comedy, for some reason, is a safe place, right? You should be able to say whatever you want at the expense of a joke. Right. Like Pete Davidson lost his dad in 9-11. He makes 9-11 jokes on the daily. Like, you have to be able to laugh about some things, even if they are fucked up.

I've never had a publicist, Tyler. This is a true fucking story. I was going to save this for whenever me and souls at our podcast, but I can't hold it. I love it. I never had a publicist. I hired a publicist earlier this year. First time I ever hired a publicist my whole career.

And I was like, because I did bussing, I did The King and the Sting. I did, I was doing enough podcast. I was like, yo, I might be on to something. This might need to be a lane I need to figure out. So I hired a publicist. The first song I dropped 15 days after hiring them, I was like, hey, just so you all know, I'm dropping a song with a comedian. His name's Andrew Sholes.

I came on a bus right after we did this song. Yeah, no, you played it for us right after the show. It was a hilarious song. So I was like, yo, this is like, it's completely a satire, right? Like, it's completely a funny song. I send it to them. They're like, okay, cool. they go crickets on me for two weeks.

And I'm kind of hitting them like, hey man, this song's getting traction. Like, we should get some buzz. Like, show us like one of the biggest comedians on earth right now. Like, his rants are hilarious. Yeah, this should be kind of working. You know, can we get some publicity? They sent me a formal email refunded my money and dropped me as a client because of that song. Because of Open her up?

Yep. Oh, my God. So in true jelly roll fashion, I had a publicist for 14 fucking days that fired me. And only talked to him once. I talked to him one fucking down. What were they so mad about? I don't know. You know what's even worse was they would never even tell me what line did it.

It was just like they were just offended by the whole song. Yeah, they didn't have enough ink in the computer to tell you which line did it. Yeah, they were just like, you know, and I thought to myself, I was like, did y'all do any fucking research on who I was before y'all took me as a client? Like I say crazy shit all the fucking time. That's like, was like light-mannered shit. Yeah, right. Like fucking up.

I was going to fuck y'all anyways, then, for sure. You know what I'm saying? But not this, but not on this. I thought this was safe. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was like, yeah. Those people were supposed to have your back.

Yeah, I was like, God, man, Jesus. So from there I was just like, can somebody hire me kid rocks publicist? Yeah. He fucking does something fucked up every month and gets away with that. Yeah. We'll see. Good for the kid. Good for the kid.

I was saying, I was saying the other day that being a comedian, like, being a comedian and being an artist, like if I ever wanted to go dabble and stand-up comedy, and I have to completely ditch everything artist because that's the cancel thing. Like, I can tell jokes in, in like, certain settings. But like, if I'm going to go earnest doing stand-up comedy, can't tell jokes because then I'm getting judged as an artist when I tell those jokes. But as a comedian, you do have more free. Rap and comedy are the two places where you should be able to just like say things hypothetically and fucking to make a point or whatever to get a laugh. A lot of Cairns out there.

Oh, yes. A lot of Cairns. A lot of Cairns. A movie even coming out called Caren, right? Yeah, there should be. Yeah, the dude from, what's it called? Get Out? Oh, yes.

That's the same director. He's making that movie right now. But the whole thing is, it seems like it's literally in a suspenseful way of making fun of all these Cairns. Nobody named their kids Karen in 2021. It wasn't like the lowest year of anybody being named Karen. I dated a Karen once. Did you? She wasn't a Karen, though.

Top-notch gal. Didn't work out. Didn't work out. Life. Glad it didn't. Yeah. I couldn't deal with her in 2020. They were their name.

Hey, we got to change your name legally. We got to get rid of this thing. Yeah. Yeah, but that movie came out. Okay. Comedy should be left alone, man. I don't understand.

That's a, that's a big place that you should be able to say the most crude and most ridiculous things. And nobody's safe from getting made fun of. Yeah. Nobody. So one thing you touched on, Jelly,

is you said you did this podcast, Ernest podcast, King of the Sting. You said, I'm on to something. Why not do? your own. What, dude, I just, I just, I don't know.

I don't know. I've talked to them about it. I'm going to get y'all's guys. Yeah, no, they've definitely became mercenaries on you. Yeah. They're fucking, they're taking everybody over now. Yeah.

No, for sure. Yeah. They've stated flags around. Someone called a monopoly. Maybe a monopoly. They're taken down Nashville, dude. Take it down Nashville. But they do, they do good work.

I mean, it's, it's fast. Top notch. This podcast works so well now. We do it Monday. Cranks out Wednesday. The boys are on top of it always. Everyone back there doesn't outstand job. How long how fast the turnaround is.

Yeah, I don't know who your boy is in the yellow shirt. We just show up and talk. He wasn't, uh, I don't know who he is. Yeah. John, he was here last time. Yeah. He's not with the production company. I'll say that.

Yeah. But you should definitely do that's something that you have the talent to do that. It's not really a talented job. Like being able to sit and talk with friends is really all this is. Yeah. I don't know, man. Full disclosure, I have commitment issues. Yeah.

So I'm afraid. I would just... Hey, you ask Will, I'm the same fucking way. No, you're right. It's tough. Someone in this chair all the time. Having one and these guys know because they do my podcast, like, the, the best part of having them is knowing all I got to do is show up and talk and the rest is going to be

taken care of. Yeah. The hardest part is knowing I have to do this every week. Right. That's the week. That's the hardest part? Yeah. Which, if that's my biggest complaint, it's not that hard.

It's just like having, having that to do. And some days, like, I might have to do a solo pot a day. Like, personally, I probably would. would rather not, but I'm going to do it. I'm available. Sponsors. Got to do it. But, yeah, I mean, my only complaint is sometimes that I just have that on the schedule,

but they make podcasting so easy. I'll be honest, man. I posted this the other day, and it was about I deal with extreme depression. And it's something I fought since I was a kid. I saw that post. I saw that. You, we posted and everything. Yeah, it was a beautiful post.

It explains my, uh, my overeating disorder, my binge drinking behavior, my, my, everything it really explains me as a human and the problem with that is like I don't I don't think I could dude I have weeks that I don't want to fucking like talk to my wife she's my best friend she's like one of four things in life I am committed to music her my daughter my son that's about it yeah it's where the kind of where the commitment train stops you know what I mean it's like and I just I just struggled to have a muster a conversation with her so I just couldn't imagine like having that week to come in here and you know I never want to feel fake I never want to feel like coming here. For me personally, I feel like I'd have to come in and put on the clown makeup

that day. You know what I mean? Like just no. Or I'd have to just come in and be super vulnerable and crying fucking some poor guy that book for my podcast to just watch me have an emotional breakdown. I'm fucking over here coming off a three-day bender. I'm sweating out cocaine. I'm crying. Talking about how I want to change my life and I'm sick of being fat. And some guy from Sony record. Jordan Davis comes over with a smile shaking me. How's it going? You're like, look, honestly, kind of want to kill myself today. Some guy, some random artist from Sony records sitting next to me like,

it's going to be okay, big fella. I'm like, it's not. You don't know me. Right. Those are real, real problems. It's not just problems that you deal with on a daily basis. Everyone in the world has issues. I thought the internet would light me up in the fact that people were super receptive.

Yeah. It need to be said. Masculinity, whatever people decide masculinity is blocks out that much needed lane of conversation. And especially for funny dudes, we struggle with depression for sure. I mean, I have, and I'll text you like, I have as well for, you know, seventh or eighth grade on and it comes in waves. Everything does.

But yeah, I think that might be part of what I was saying. Sometimes I just don't want to go do a podcast that I don't feel like talking. It's like it's low commitment. Like for your podcast, I'll come anytime. Yeah. This is fucking dope. But like, dude, I just, I think, I don't know. I want to do some more of them.

You know, I just started doing these things. Right. Which y'all, y'all was like kind of the king and this thing. And here was like the breaking of it. Like, I don't know. That's what made me call the publicist. It's like, hey, man, the internet didn't hate me. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I was like, it actually was okay. Yeah. There was nice comments about me. You know what I was like, maybe we should do some more of me. It felt good. I like this. This was kind of therapeutic.

Yeah. You know, it's really cool. I do with guys like you were, especially with Irn because it's like, I had a moment where me and Irn were so fucked up during our last podcast. I forgot we were doing one. Right. Like I was just in there shooting the shit. And then we'd look around and I'd be like, oh, fuck, we're doing a podcast.

Yeah. Are we running? Like here, every time we start talking, I look at that screen and be like, fuck, we've been on for seven minutes. I should have shit before. I got shit. I'm like, fuck. I fucked up.

And I took a shot of whiskey. Oh, Jesus. Healthy out. Probiotic. Immediately just fucking release the demons within. Yeah. It was bad. I think it's something you should really look into, man, because it's not, it's not necessarily

like, you don't have to. be funny all the time. Like there's plenty of times in this podcast where it's, you know, I've had conversations. I've talked about my struggles. And I don't like, listen, some of the issues you say you're dealing with, I haven't dealt with before, but dealing with this ACL for the last, you know, going on eight months now, it was full on depression. Like there were, like for Will, I would come to do the podcast because I had an obligation to come do the podcast. I leave and I wouldn't talk to Will for the whole week. And I'd come to come to the podcast again. To the point where Will I'd have to show up in my house. But there's a place for being funny.

There's a place for, oh, dude, he's, I've, I've, I've kind of let my heart out to him in the last podcast when I did a solo one. So I'm kind of, I don't want to go, I don't want to double down. Yeah, no, I love, I love what you said about it. He's all time. Can I ask you a question? Did you have an identity moment with the knee? Was it like a scary moment for you as an athlete?

I have clarity. I, I, I clarity more than anything because, you know, football, since I was, uh, I was 14, we went eight and no when I was a freshman. And then my sophomore year, I made varsity. and I was not by no means like close to the best guy in the team but we went 15 and no we win the state championship and I did that and I was like oh I'm in this this is what I'm about and then going into my senior year I got my first scholarship offer from Utah State and I was like oh I'm going the NFL like that's riding's in the wall I know what I'm doing now and for so long since I've made that conscious decision of that's what I'm going to do it's been easy you know yeah there's been ups and downs there's been issues there's been bad games I've given up sacks got a shitload of penalties but like it's It's the playing the game has been easy for me. And I really, last year I was kind of going to the season. Like, how much longer do I want to do this?

You know, there's so many more lives live. I made a bunch of money. Like, I love entertainment. I love doing this. I love making people laugh. You know, I love doing like the CMT awards with me and Trace Atkins. I loved that. It's like, where is that stuff?

And then as soon as I got hurt, it was like, oh, this is exactly what I'm supposed to be doing right now. Like, I should, this is exactly what my feet need to be. I need to be totally present in this moment because it's going to be gone someday. And so there's been fear along the ways of, am I going to be the same person? Can I, you know, is my knee ever going to work again? You know, you get hurt the same time as other guys and you see them doing stuff I wasn't able to do yet. And I was like, fuck, am I ever going to be the same? And it's just made this process and coming on here and talking.

Like, it takes you out of whatever bullshit you're dealing with your life and able to sit here in front of people that you used to just meet and they'd ran a podcast for you. But now you can call close friends. And so I don't see these cameras. I see them back there when I'm doing a solo pod. I got to talk to you guys. And it's a chance to get away. And that's what I was kind of talking to you about is, is your ability to come and sit and talk and make people laugh is so special.

Like I knew you were a special person, both of you. From the minute I met you guys, Ernest sitting here in his camo fucking pants and I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? All I knew him was for was cracking the fake beer in the gym and making that Vingo viral. But watching you guys work towards your process. And it's good for people to know that people struggle. Right.

I struggle every single day. Every single day, something comes right from like, fuck, dude. I don't want to go to the gym for the third time today. I don't want to do my rehab for the third time today. I want to see my kids. But this is the life I've chosen. And to be able to come here and we get, you know, we did 45 minutes of just laughing. And then the last 30 minutes of us talking about real shit.

And it's like with your podcast, it's your narrative. It's whatever you want to say. So when people say things about you on Twitter or Instagram, if you want to address those things you're allowed to, if you want to, you know, sub-comments about this things, you're allowed to, you can do whatever you want in this thing. It can be happy. It can be sad. It can be anything in between. And in a lot of ways, this is really like, I don't want to say save me because, like, I wasn't near that point. But it was a huge therapeutic time for me to stay here and get out of my bullshit. Because a lot of times, like dealing with depression and you guys deal with depression,

I deal with depression. Everyone back there has been sad at one point. And this whole thing about, you know, there's a band called The Devil Makes Three and they have a line. It's like, hey, if you feel your pulse, this doctor will. give you this pill so you don't have to feel that anymore. And this world's so afraid of feeling. So it's like being able to feel and being able to show people that it's okay, look how much, look what I've done in my life. All the things you've done.

Talk about your catalog of the songs you've made and what that's worth. You've done that. That's unbelievable. But there's still so much hurt in that and around that all over the place. Sit here and talk it out sometimes. You got to cry. You got to cry. I almost cried talking about Will last week.

You see how special the guy is, you know? And so it's a, it's cool. to sit here, talk, and kind of ramble on. And you really start to figure out who you are in these times. Right. You know, and I think a lot of us would realize, like, you're still standing here. You get sad a week later, you feel a little happier because you can deal with adversity. We all handle shit differently, but you make it out of that.

You get better and better every single time. So, that's your question. I don't remember what your question was, but I fucking love... You would have... You would have what we decided is I'm doing a pop. Yeah, you should. I would subscribe immediately to your shit. For sure.

Don holler at the crew. You'll bring in your reach of people you can get on your podcast too will be of wide variety like mine, but like a wider reach. Just going further into wherever, whatever direction of your reach can go. Can I tell your father-in-law story right quick while you're talking about wide variety? I met Ernest's whole family yesterday. And I met his wife soon to be, I'm sure. father, so his father-in-law, right, Mr. Mr. Royer. Rob Royer.

Rob Royer. Legends. And I go, I go, I do gangster. Yeah. He's sitting down. I go, how you doing, sir? I'm Jason D. Ford. He called me Jelly, Roy.

He said, yeah. Seeing you on that TV program with Ernest. That's so old school and gang. Yeah. That's cool as shit. Yeah. He was awesome. By the end of the night, we were talking about his quailude experiences.

Yeah. About Rob. Rob's not jelly roll. Yeah, Rob's 78. He had a, he's lived like three different lives, but his first one was a rock star, and he was in this band, Bread. It had a bunch of hits back in the 70s.

Yeah. And his, his L.A., his L.A. drug story phases were crazy. Yeah. This old, this dude has been, he's like Larry David now in his life. He's like one of them old school dudes that, like, a plane could hit the building next to us, and he'd never put his drink down. He'd just be like, yeah, I've seen it all.

Seen it all. You know, just totally. He's actually the type of guy to tell you five minutes before the plane hits. There's probably going to be a plane coming here. It sounds like that one's not doing too well. You can hear the engine from a distance. That's funny shit, dude. Yeah, he's super old-school guy.

Sorry to cut. You just made me think about it. No, no, you're good. When you were like, Mike's shit touches a ride range of people. I mean, I meet a lot of people from both y'all's podcast that I didn't think would listen to either one of y'all. But it's fucking was real funny. here, Mr. Royer, which I know is your in-law, but still he's like, yeah, the fact he's so old-school,

he called it the TV program. Yeah. He'd see me on with the wide, the wide range, though, like no one, guys like Shob and Theo. Oh, yeah. I mean, being able to cross-pollinate those things, you're going to be able to take fans from everywhere. Yeah. So, I don't know. I think it might be a good idea.

It might be a terrible idea. You might do it for two weeks and hate me. Well, fuck it. We'll do it and see, right? That's the cool thing. You missed 100% of the shots you'll take. I've done way stupider ideas. Oh, Earn, you keep getting blessed.

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You must be 21 and up to purchase and consume. Please drink responsibly. That's probably f***s. That sounds like... It kind of... It kind of... Yeah, dude, I bet they're delicious. Listen, it sounds like some...

Ernest would be serving at the top. Oh, it says, please, no cursing at the top. No, it's please no cursing. you gotta do the whole thing again. I'm kidding. We have edit. That's what the boys are for. Hey, Barstall.

You're paying these guys to cut that up. Alex, let's play your company one more time. What's it called? Legos creative. Hey, I was at, I was at Bartako yesterday and some guys like,

hey, tell Legos I said, what up? Oh, swear to God. And I was like, I'm trying to take my daughter to the bathroom. I have no idea the fuck this guy is. I was like, oh, yeah, fuck yeah,

I need him with like a deuceus and like cruised out of there. sick. I think you like waited and wanted to talk, but yeah, you got fans out there, Legos. No problem. Anyway. I'd fuck with the slick-spirited shit. Sounds like something you'd serve at your Fourth of July

Yeah, I will next year. That'll be the ice in your cocktails. Yeah, we'll have the slick truck pull up, and they're selling dime bags out of it. I will never... I'll have two slick pops and a dime bag. I'll never let Ernest talk me into drinking like that again. Normally, it's me getting Ernest to drink.

Yeah, it is normally that. I mean, we were shooting shots, which was normal, but you were making me chase them. Not normal, because, like I said, you don't pour shots. You pour drinks and expect someone to shoot it. I said, I said, earn, that went down smooth. He said, the first swallow. Yeah, I took a shot and I go, gout, go, oh, my God. I just took three shots worth of alcohol in what we're calling one shot.

But then he's handing me these sweet drinks, man, I'm pounding on. My wife grabbed me and had a real husband-wife moment, said, you're going to regret drinking those mixed drinks with that tequila. I was like, they're really good. She was like, okay, just telling you. And I'm pounding them. Is that when I overheard you say, I'm already fully committed? Yes, exactly.

I was trying to figure out he's either fully committed to this party or mixing drinks. But either way, my man was committed. So he didn't have a commitment issue last night. Five commitments. Yeah, five commitments. I was 10 toes down at that point. At that point, I was exactly what that was. I'm like, no, I'm already committed.

I'm pounding these things. That's fucking going to have. God damn. Will talks about how after we did the podcast, you guys went to Zanis. Oh, yeah. And he grabbed his buddies, like, you got, like, after drinking with you. Like, you got to get me the fuck out of here. Like, ask a friend to me.

Like, you got to take me home. Yeah. Like, you're that kind of influence. I don't feel safe. I don't feel safe with this guy. Oh, dude. Me and Arnd had that moment on a golf course one day. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I had to stop. I don't drink a lot, but when I drink, I drink a lot. Yes, yeah, exactly. Shit, when you're on the podcast last time, I tried to say it three times, but, you know, we talk over each other. You had a whole damn handle with you. You were slipping that thing down, no problem.

Oh, no, I got drunk on the podcast. I know. I was there. In fact, my fear was Ernest was going to show up with one of my bottles of tequila left over. I was just going to say, how much tequila do we, because there were three empty bottles of, of, Taramana laying around. And one of them had, like, some in it. But I don't recall three bottles.

was getting drank because we had it we had stuff on tap when were those being drank we were getting trashed earnest that's what I keep trying to why do you think I'm in here shitting spiders out was Ray was shooting with you more than me though I was like yo man I gotta go fucking shit shit I can't believe you all did this

if I was hung over I'd say I can't come I'm not being facetious I pulled up to earnest like this with his radiators on and clearly drool hey He had the radiators on, dude.

Hey. Radiator. It's fucking hit, dude. The radiators. Radiator. Oh, oh, Coach Jones. I could clearly see him drooling himself. And I had a moment where I was like,

I need to get out and put this on my Instagram story right now. And I backed in and it woke him up. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Is that your big-ass black truck? Yes, sir. God, I was staring at the thing coming. I think that's terrifying.

Thank you, Bubba. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Big man, big truck. Yeah, baby. God, damn.

I'm proud. My wife and daughter did that for me for Father's Day last year. Really? Tight motoring? Yep. Donnie. Yeah, they did it all. I had no input in any of it.

Really? I didn't know they were doing it. I'd be pissed on my wife. The wife was so slick. She was like, yo, let me go fucking, I'm going to like get it service because we were dropping off her Jeep at the time. And she was like, yo, well, I'm dropping the Jeep off. Let me just take the truck.

I got you a rental. Just, you know, you don't take care of your truck. Let me just go get the oil and all the shit done. I was like, okay, cool. they're going to be done Friday and pulled up Friday two weeks before Father's Day with her and Bailey and jumped out the whole truck was customized

Did she ever like hit you with Like hey you like this? You like that? No, she just did it on her own She did it on her own See that would scare the shit out of me If Taylor did that Taylor knows what I like

But like I'm very particular No dude I'm not as particular And my wife's got really good style So I just I just yeah She did a good job Yeah she crushed it man Her and Bailey and Bailey

picked out the bumper in the stuff and her and my daughter just had like our daughter had it because my she's raised her last five years my daughter calls her mama but they picked out everything do really they stitched the logo the good night nashville logo in the head rest that's fire i mean she thought about every little detail that was like i wouldn't have thought of even yeah down to like sound matting the truck and getting the right speakers for like how i'd want to hear mixes and tweeters and she really she really went above and like beyond and her reason for doing it was real though before this I had a Ford truck

that had like 273,000 miles on it. Yeah. And she would always go, we're going to get a new truck? Because she bought the truck for me too. I was like, when does motherfucker blow up? She was like, are you serious? I was like, I am going to. I was raised to drive cars until they explode. Like, this thing is going to have to catch

on fire on the side of the fucking interstate. And I'm going to have to be calling the ambulance before I stop driving. It's going to have to blow, blow up. Or get stuck in wet concrete. I'm the dumb ass that puts you I hate you. I'm the dude that would put a new engine in an old car. I'm that dumbass.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, just, the engine's gone. Well, let you buy another one. They're 10 grand. Well, put it 10 grand. You know, I'm that dude.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she was like, she was like, I want to customize it for you because I know you're going to drive this truck until it explodes. You're not the guy that like, oh, I've had this truck three years. I need a new truck. I know your personality. You're going to drive this truck. Keep that thing forever.

It looks beautiful, man. It's a mean truck. Well, everyone knows where you're at, for sure. Yeah, for sure. They'll know when it's you. Yeah. Yeah. It's a beautiful thing.

So I thought it was cool, man. Good deal. Well, we heard you pulling up. Oh, yeah. That is true. We could hear it. 77F100. My wife got that for me.

Yeah. But I did everything to it. Right. Yeah. She bought me the truck. It was my wedding gift. It was very cool. Speaking of Titan, you were working on, was it a Mustang?

Well, I'm in the works of doing that now. Okay. But it was something before that, right, that you did that triggered that one? I did that's the truck. You restored an old. Yeah, the truck. It used to be an old. well, can I even talk about this on the podcast

with Chevy? Well, you have your Silverado. You just didn't bring it today. Yeah, I didn't bring it today. Right. So before we were sponsored by Chevy, my wife got me an F-100, 77 F-100, like a ranger, like an old work truck. Okay. So I stripped it down. I, the Titan Motorian guys, stripped it down, painted it,

everything from top to bottom is done. So badass. I love it. I drive that thing. It's a daily, it's a daily driver. Those guys, it took about four or five months longer than I wanted to, but it's literally everything I wanted. and I'm super happy about it. Those guys killed in. No free shoutouts.

Phil, you better send me a check, buddy. Yeah, they did that. I've got elite restoring a Cadillac now. Elite Customs out in Franklin. Yeah. They're restoring an old 60, 60-something 71 Cadillac El Dorado. I make it a permanent convertible. That's a badass.

That's a badass vehicle. I'm putting hardwood floors in it. Really? Yeah. That's hardcore. I'm looking at a 2001 Lincoln Town car that I want to put 24-inch blades on. Fucking do it. And tent windows. South Side of me.

I literally, like a fresh lit ball. Hey, me, me and Morgan are talking about just going in, having like a 10 grand budget all in, and just getting a pimped out ride to go listen to demos in, like 212s in the trunk. Oh, yeah.

Just do it. Music Row needs that car on it. I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing 315s in the trunk of the Cadillac. Yes. We need to pull up together. I want to go all the way back to the early 2000s. I want to break windows.

Three 15s? I swear to God. I swear, dude, it's going to... I had them in an old cutlass one time. And I've wanted them ever... Of course you did. Yeah, I wanted them ever since. So I was like, I want to do this again.

It's outstanding. What are you going to listen to, bach? Money bag, yo. Money bag, yeah. I'm going to pull up... I'm going to literally pull up, just blaring. Yeah. Money bag, yo.

Before we go, what do you guys got going on next? What's next on the radar for you, too? I'm recording my podcast. podcast after this. Oh, yeah, okay. Music-wise, would you have already talked about that? Oh, I got to...

20-minute segment about it. Just being earnest. Oh, yeah. Her might just be starting to... Rolling with jellies coming out soon, too. I'm playing Myrtle Beach next weekend. Big Earns Little Beach bar tour, three shows of Myrtle Beach.

I'm looking to make that like an annual thing. Next year, it would be more shows. But Big Earns, a little beach tour will be a thing. I like that. And, yeah, just festival one-offs. and then some tour announcements will come out later. And then I'm going in the spring direct support for Chris Lane. We'll go all West Coast and all that stuff.

How long as the tour usually will? I have no idea. That'll go from like that the fall, it'll be fall winter. So October 31st through like December 14th. So a couple of months. Just going. Three nights. We go like, you know, Thursday, bus out Thursday at midnight, play Friday, Saturday,

be back at home Sunday, right Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, repeat. Just a grind. Weekend warrior shit. Weekend warrior shit. That's wild. Yeah. Well, good for you, man.

I'm super happy. I wish we could have that on, but we'll cut it. And then when you... Yeah, whenever it's announced and we'll run it. Yeah. That's awesome. What about you what you got going on? You just did whiskey jam.

Just did whiskey jam. Dude, I had such good time. Ward has done an amazing job setting that up. I'm so proud of what he does an amazing, amazing job. Yeah, no, dude, it was, uh, it was insane, man. We had a, we had a really big moment there. I enjoyed everything about whiskey jam. I love Ward.

Second time I got to play the parking lot party. totally different artists from the first time I got to play it so to see the growth was amazing. I think they said it was the biggest whiskey jam they've ever had still to date. And I mean, there was people outside I couldn't get in. It was crazy.

Really? It was nuts. I was so humbled. We got drunk and tell you how much I love, I say this all the time, man, but I don't, I never charge all the other rhyme that sold out, baby. Sold out in 15 minutes.

Really? That's insane. That's insane. That's what we're talking about that. 15 minutes. Jelly roll out the rhyming. Nashville hip-hip. done came a long way. The first

Nashville rapper to ever play the Raman. Yeah. The third rap act ever to play the Raman. That's awesome. Only preceded by Wutang in common. Okay. So I'll be the third third rap act to ever play the Raman. I think that if I had the numbers right, I'll be one of 10, less than 10 locals that ever sold it out. Really?

Like born and bred here in the Davidson County. That's on my bucket list. Yeah, for sure. That'll be cool. Sheesh. But yeah, man, we've been doing the same thing Ern's doing. We're doing the weekend Warrior thing. I'm back doing shows. They've been amazing. How nice has that been to see people back watching you? It's so good to see the world back normal. See people having fucking fun again. And it's, um, for me, it was kind of a kind of a culture shock because we were selling X amount of tickets before COVID. And that number's like

tripled since COVID. Why do you think that is? I think save me. Yeah. That song is outstanding. I mean, a lot more than saved me, obviously. There's a lot of other songs that did really well. You went mainstream over the course of code. of it. Exactly. Yeah. Like it became, Save Me

kind of put me in people's living rooms, you know what I mean in a way that was different. So, um,

been writing a lot, Ern's been writing with me working on my new records. So I, we discussed this. This is funny to do a follow up. I signed that deal. Okay.

I signed that deal. That's amazing. We did. We did have a hypothetical too. Yeah. How close to a hypothetical were we? The one we talked about off camera? The one we talked about off camera.

was it off camera? I don't either. You said something about like guys because people in the music industry get fucked. I'll tell you this. I think we talked about the real logistics off camera. Yes. Dead on.

Really? It landed right on. Congratulations. So your deal is now you're probably going to sit the tone for a lot more. It's the best deal on Music Row in history right now. Really? Yeah.

That's fucking big time. That's massive. That's huge. Yeah. No. So that happened. It's just been great, man. Just grinding.

It's just fucking. Just work and do right. I'm back. Not that I fell out of love with it, but I put out 30-something music videos last year and wrote two, 300 songs, right? I was, I don't want to say burnt, but creatively, I just didn't, I just couldn't write early this year. Yeah.

In the last probably month, I've been like, it was like a, it was like getting back excited again. Even you know how you get excited about something before you do it so you know it's going to be dope when you do it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when you're like a month away from your first writing session, you're like, oh, I can't wait to write a song. You know what I'm saying?

I'm going to write a song. I'm going to write a song. And then I got back in the studio and we've been cutting some demos. And as of right now, full disclosure, the front runner for my next single looks like me and Irn Daddy, this record we wrote the other day. Really? Just pulled up on a whim and left with the song. Yeah, in true earned fashion, he showed us.

This is so earnest, y'all. Ernest showed up in flip-flops, a button-down shirt that was wide open, blistering some burnt red, clearly, clearly intoxicated. beyond needing to be around anybody, including even me, shows right up, grabs a guitar, and goes, I got an idea, and he starts playing his idea, and

he finishes it, and I was like, how long you had that? He's like, I'm just fucking around. It's like, well, thank God I recorded it here. Let's finish that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And in true earned fashion, he's like, well, I don't really got time to finish it, but that's the idea, and he splits. You know what I'm saying? For all five minutes.

Like 10 or 12 minutes. Yeah, for sure. But we ended up finishing the record. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, dude. We're just fucking really getting it done, man. I'm excited. This deal is going to enable me to do something I've never done and is to take a swing at like, I don't know how to say it, like real playlisting, like real radio. Yeah. So it might be a scenario where jelly rolls on the radio. I never thought I'd say that ever. I never thought I would say that. I might be on the radio as talented as you thought I would make radio friendly music. Yeah. But the radio's starting to be more understanding of the kind of music that's darker. I make dark music.

and I'm blessed to have friends like Ernest who understand radio and understand me so we know how to get in a room and stay jelly roll but do it in a way that's commercially digestible. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So it's like that's the goal, man. I hope.

I'll send you something. I'll take you something to me and I'll take you to one me and honor working on. It's mad rough. Like it's super doesn't sound good. It's like just me and a guitar. It's like a demo. I'm sure you've heard a few.

It's a demo. but I'll shoot it over to you and see what you think about. That fires me up, man. I'm happy for both of you. Sounds like you guys are taking the moon, dude. You guys are doing it all. I'm excited for both of you. Thank you for both coming on.

Thank you for having us, man. Yeah, this is actually lived up the expectations. Yes, right. We were all in a group chat. Yes. Because we are, I don't know. I was worried you guys are going to show up hungover and this is going to be a dud. No, this is a scary.

Stop. But next time I say we fucking do us three and we bring Hardy. Fuck yeah. People can squeeze him in there. He's a smaller fella. We can figure anything. If we have to go outside to, we'll do it in front of the bus if we got to. I'll zoom in from outside of the bus.

This is our live hungover from the couch right outside of the bus. Man, it's cool. It's cool to watch you guys, especially being as talented as you are and having zero of that talent. It's fun to be part of it and watch from a distance and all the people you guys are associated with, man. It's very, very cool. So let's give it up for the boys. That's a big, that's a good pod. You are welcome fans.

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