Bussin' With The Boys - Gary Vee On Vulnerability, Success & Leadership + Derrick Henry's Free Agency

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

Recorded: February 8th 2024 | In this weeks episode, Taylor rips a solo intro as Will is in Chicago for the Barstool Combine. In the intro Taylor hits on the boy Shane Gillis hosting SNL, Machine Gun Kelly's newest song and his thoughts on where Derrick Henry will end up. Following the intro, we were able to sit down with the one and only, Gary Vaynerchuk aka Gary Vee. The guys dive into the start of Gary Vee and how he got to where he is now. He gets into how obsessed he is with the chase rather than the final product, talking in the sense of how he wants to buy the Jets. Gary also gets into how he has never felt insecure when it comes to business and to never get too high on the praise from fans because there is always people trying to knock you down a full pegs. As we all know, Gary Vee is never lacking on energy and throughout this pod you can feel that. Enjoy. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 4:06 MGK Listened To Taylor 4:59 Cam Newton Is A Massive Man 7:53 Shane Gillis CRUSHED SNL 21:05 Another Bad Question Followed By A Better One 30:45 Where Will The King's Next Reign Be? 45:11 Normalize Dudes Hyping Up Dudes 50:39 Master's Of The Air 57:02 GARY VEE INTERVIEW STARTS 57:05 Gary Vee's Impact On Bussin 57:54 Early Days Of Gary Vee 1:00:19 Process Better Than The End Goal? 1:05:46 "I'm Almost Like A Cat" 1:12:57 Quantity Of Content 1:14:55 “Imagine If Your Family Died” 1:18:03 Being Vulnerable As A Boss 1:21:02 Imposter Syndrome AKA Insecurity 1:23:45 Live For The Cheers, Die By The Boo's 1:26:38 How Many People Actually Truly Know You? 1:29:12 Guilty For Being So Lucky 1:32:39 VaynerSports Involved In NIL 0:00 Intro 4:06 MGK Listened To Taylor 4:59 Cam Newton Is A Massive Man 7:53 Shane Gillis CRUSHED SNL 21:05 Another Bad Question Followed By A Better One 30:45 Where Will The King's Next Reign Be? 45:11 Normalize Dudes Hyping Up Dudes 50:39 Master's Of The Air 57:02 GARY V INTERVIEW STARTS 57:05 Gary V's Impact On Bussin 57:54 Early Days Of Gary V 1:00:19 Process Better Than The End Goal? 1:05:46 "I'm Almost Like A Cat" 1:12:57 Quantity Of Content 1:14:55 “Imagine If Your Family Died” 1:18:03 Being Vulnerable As A Boss 1:21:02 Imposter Syndrome AKA Insecurity 1:23:45 Live For The Cheers, Die By The Boo's 1:26:38 How Many People Actually Truly Know You? 1:29:12 Guilty For Being So Lucky 1:32:39 VaynerSports Involved In NILFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Bustin with the Boys. I'm glad you're with me right now. Listen, during our time here, we always have a great time, and it's because of you guys that check him with us every single day. Now, some of you are already here for Gary V. Mitchie and the boys do a phenomenal job of putting chapters on this whole thing, so you can jump right to that. But if you're going to stick with us, these are the things we're going to talk about

today. Things that I love, Machine Gun Kelly's new solo is out. Cam Newton, dummies a bunch of fathers at a seven on seven tournament and we talked about, we talked about football. More specifically where Derek Henry's going to end up, Shane Gillis and his monologue at SNL

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I had a lot of fun doing it. Will was not in the shop today, but I hope you guys like it. Big hugs, tiny kisses. YouTube was four months old when I started my show. So, like, it wasn't like people, like, what you're doing now, people are like, oh, podcast can hit. Right.

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You are energized when you get there. Just like I am today, boys. It's Monday. You're viewing this on Tuesday, and I'm electrostag to have you. Before we started the show, I had Mitch. I made him pop on Machine Gun Kelly's newest single. Just let me go. Don't let me go.

Don't let me go. Now, sad boy song. And I gave you guys my whole spiel about Machine Gun Kelly and R2 interactions. It was like Ye and Yang. One was great, one not so great, but not that way. It was flipped the other way around. I love this man's music. I think it's absolutely incredible.

I had the opportunity to tell him. His album, he put out tickets to my downfall was the best album I've heard since 2003, Bleak Winnet II self-titled album. So with that being, so you guys get a chance to go check that out. Because, no, no free shout-outs, but, you know, the boys are going to tell you what he likes. and that's what I like, dude. So if you don't like that, too bad, you're watching the show. That's what I like.

What else is going on? Cam Newton. You want to pop that video up for me real quick, Jackie? Because I've seen a couple things. The big news, the big news about Cam Newton right now is, first off, anybody who's seen him in person, looks like a damn action figure. He goes to, he's in what? He's at a youth football camp or something like that?

Some sort of camp. Yeah, like seven on seven. Seven on seven camp. The softest version of football you could possibly be a part of a couple of hardos want to go in the paint with Cam Newton. Now, thank God for the roots coming out of his hat. Because truly, when you watch it at first glance, you know, that man's really handled himself a bunch of couple of boys around there,

which is nice. But then you start to notice the details. And you see that this dude with the flat brim hat ripping around, getting pulled away by people. He's literally reaching to take somebody out. And his hat hasn't even moved. Now, it tells me two things. One, the dreads really help keep the hat on.

And the second thing, maybe there's not enough circulation to his cranium because we've all had a hat on that was one snap too tight. Mitch, you definitely know about that. It's hard. It hurts, right? It's a bit of a deal. No, it's not comfortable. But do, shout out, shout out Cam Newton, man. Because I don't know what happened for this to happen.

I don't know what series of events took place for this man to get in a fight with what looks like. kids, young adults, I don't know. But they must have done something real bad to piss them off because Cam Newton's constantly in the light. And for you to switch up like that in a hurry, you need to do something in a big way. Did you guys see the video? Yeah.

What did your boys think about it? Cam Newton, Big Dub or Big L? Big Dub. Yeah? It's like four guys on one. I want to know how old these kids are, though. Because they look little. Yeah, I mean, Cam Newton's also like 6'6

and, like, you know, a huge man. So he makes anybody look like. The way you said man just now. I mean, he's a big boy. He's a big boy. He's definitely not fighting, like, youth teams. I think these are, like, probably parents of kids. Yeah, I can see that.

I definitely see that. People are all talking about his hat not coming off. You can see the hat looks custom-made to where his dreads were cut through the top of it. Yeah. It's held on pretty tight. It's like Groot with style, dude. I like that. It's a nice deal.

Mitch, what do you think? I think it's one insane. for Cam to even be attacked like that. Yeah. But like, I mean, he he wasn't even like throwing any punches or anything. He was just like throwing people off of him. Right. Those people were flying. You know what he was doing? He's a big boy. Yeah. Becoming Superman, bro. He's becoming super... Massive.

Yeah, he's a dude, he's a big cat. Beautiful calves on him. Beautiful calves. When you're doing NCAA 14 creative player, and you just put 99 on everything and the dude's like 240, the legit just made Cam Newton. Except my mind. dude was always white because I thought we had to beat the odds even on this game you know guys sometimes I make a black dude sometimes I crush a black dude get a little light skin guy in there uh what else dude what happened this weekend you know what else happened this weekend the boy Shane Gillis the boy Shane Gillis did S&L now I was at earnest's house before this whole thing started

and I thought it came on at 7 o'clock eastern 6 o'clock central him and his wife and their kid they want to go to dinner. So I'm like kind of low-key being rude, rushing everybody through dinner because I truly want to see this monologue because I think to myself, Norm McDonald, if those of you don't know, he was on the cast of S&L,

he did the weekend report, and then was fired. And he has this incredible monologue. I believe it was October 23rd, 1999. The reason why I know that, I looked it up last night. His monologue is essentially shitting on SNL the entire time he's on SNL

because he was fired for not being funny, but a year and a half later, he's asked to host the show. So is because he's not funny or because the show actually sucks. And he finishes with the patented line that's supposed to be, hey, we have a great show for you tonight,

but he says, hey, we have a bad show for you tonight, so stick around. And he goes at the entire cast and everything. I was on the phone with Ernest after the whole thing yesterday. And he had a great point. He's like, he probably studied that monologue. Because what an incredible situation it is for Shane Gillis to truly have the ascend he has had.

And I know people come at us, all the time about, hey, get out, yeah, you're glazing hard on the boy. Get off. Shane's nuts. Dada, da, da, da, da, da, like, listen, if you're able to have a homie that crush his life, you should be able to give flowers to the homie. Now, Shane is an absolute, or past five minutes, he's an absolute fucking stud. Everything, the guy that you see on the stage doing his thing with the little, the shrunk shoulders and all that, that's him.

100%. He's the funniest guy in the room at all times. He's the one of the wittiest people ever met. And he came on that stage, and what he didn't do is change himself. And I think that is the coolest fucking thing. Did you guys see the monologue, by the way? Yeah. He didn't change himself.

Dude laid down three gays, one retard, and said Cracker on live TV. Like, and then congratulated himself during his monologues. Yeah, I said Cracker. Like that is, and that's the thing, too, is this is another point that Ernest brought up. And I keep bringing him up because these aren't my original thoughts. These are just things that I also agree with. Like, S&L itself, the show it is now, it's been on for 49 seasons,

is an iconic show. Like, everybody loves S&L or the idea, the concept of S&L. If you're a writer or a comedian, I'm sure at one point your goal was to get an S&L, but the show is bad now. It's not as good as it used to be. It's got to be incredibly tiring for writers.

Every single week, come up with new material. We're going to pack an hour of comedy with a small break for commercials and our singing guests, but we have to put five to six skits alive that are to make people laugh. Lane Super, a show that Lean Super Left

and Lauren Michaels who's been a part of this thing for the entire time, he can't go to Shane Gillis and he can't ask, hey, Shane, I need you to be yourself. I need you to use your type of bravado the entire time.

He just has to get Shane and bring him in and hope he doesn't. change anything about himself, which Shane absolutely delivered. I'm sure if you look up the numbers of the views, I bet you that was one of the highest viewed SNL shows of all time. And what does that tell us? It tells us that comedy is a place that is sacred to be able to say whatever the fuck you want. It should be the only place in the world, not the only place in the world. I'm going to take that back real quick. But it should be one of the places that regardless of what you say, how you deliver

it is the only thing that matters. This man in this world we live in, We're not going to get into all that stuff. But where the world we're living in now says the word gay three times. You remember your mom's gay little boy, your gay best friend, all that, and then talks about his cousin who has Down syndrome and says the word retard. And then hits us with a cracker after that. And then makes a black joke in between. That is the reason why Shane Gillis is going to be on the Mount Rushmore someday of comedy.

He refuses to change who he is. If you look in the back tube, this is the best part. And I hope you zoom in on this, Mitch, in the show if you're watching on YouTube, there's a girl with red hair in the back. And she, if you watch the entire eight-minute monologue, she does not change her facial expression.

She's livid the entire time. She's mad that this hot man is on the stage preaching. Now you can tell, and this is my favorite part about the entire monologue. You could tell Shane was nervous. It was, you could tell he was breathing heavy. I don't know if he had to walk up some stairs

before walking down those three stairs, but he was breathing heavy as if he went through some stairs. and he was feeling it out because he's now doing something in the public eye that he knows he has viewers that do not watch his shit and he's got to essentially make you laugh while still being himself.

So let's give a round of applause for Shane Gillis too. Like to me that was one of the coolest things you could ever do. One of the coolest things ever is host SNL but we all think back to like the Sandler days and the Belushi days and the Farley days and all like all those times like when we were growing up that type of SNL

Now the only guy I know from S&L is The White Dude and the Black dude Who Do Weekend Report and Keenan Allen Those guys to me And then all the other guys are Is that his name? Wait, no, there's Keenan Kell What?

Oh, so Kenan, what's the other dude's name? What's his name? The guy I'm thinking of. Kenan Thompson Which was from Kenan and Kell. You guys remember that? Of course. Hell of a show.

Good Burger. Hey, welcome to the Good Burger. Can I take your order? That, he's very funny to me. But I don't know the rest of the cast. And I was a kid too. that would sit down Saturday nights. Excited to watch SNL,

excited to watch the skits. That was something I always love, the mad TVs and the comedy essentials. That was on at my house. So it was very cool to see one of your friends go and fucking kill it like that, dude. Got a love, but do you both have anything to say about Shane and SNL?

Do you guys watch it? Yeah, I already asked you that question. Would you think? Yeah, I mean, it was good. I thought his monologue was really good. I think the skits are just, they were trying too hard to force the Trump stuff. It's always political or religious.

It's like, can we not just have fun anymore? Hey, can the boys just have a little fun out here? A little fun. I still think there was funny parts of the skits, but the monologue, obviously, there was some shock value in it. And I think, obviously, Shane did exactly what people wanted him to do. So, yeah, congrats to him for getting on there. I'm sure he was so nerve-wracking.

God. I used to be on that stage. And who knows, man. But I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the monologue. It was just, it was classic Shane. Classic Shane. Just going at his family the whole time.

at his family and doing that. It nicked me. It nicked me. I thought the Trump one was good. I thought the sneaker thing was hilarious because you obviously, Shane does a great Trump impersonation, but I think they did a good job of doing the Trump thing. And then at the end of it, like making fun of Biden as well. Yeah.

Like that's, that to me is where I think we fall, we fall off a little bit when it comes to like S&L in general, right? It's really hard coming out the right and then not so much jokes at the left, but I enjoy, I enjoy when people make fun of people. I like it. I don't like it so much when it's on me, but you eat it and you fucking keep moving forward. Look for your opportunity to tell me somebody real quick.

But yeah, dude, I was stoked for that. That absolutely fired me up. The, I tell you boys, my kid, I taught my kid the Batmobile in the rubber band. Have you guys seen that? You used to do that when you were a kid? I hate the rubber band, three fingers, two fingers. You ever did that?

I feel like that'd be a staple, dude. That's the first step. The next step is Tech Decks. And then your pants are halfway down your ass with the studded belt. But what is the... I'm confused on what the rubber band thing is. So if you take a rubber band, you put like a rubber band over the three fingers. And then you take your two fingers, go through one side of the ribband and over.

And then bend it... Oh, you get like a Batman... It turns into a Batman, a Batmobile type of thing. I thought you were talking about like the... just like getting your boys with rubber bands when you just like smack. Oh, no, that shit. I would not do that to my six-year-old. Win had to learn.

Yeah, when's got to learn quick, dude. We do have a thing in our house. Act like a bitch get treated like a bitch. that is a saying in the Lawan household. Our kids haven't heard that yet, but my wife and I, we definitely explain that to each other. But it's cool. Wyn's definitely at that age right now, dude,

where she's acting some type of way, like she's trying to find the line of being a little bit rude. And that, that pisses me off. Because I had, she's going to start testing you. Dude, she and she does. She isn't already. Yeah, but I'm finding, it's a cool part

because I'm finding my lane as a father. Like, I used to think, oh, I'll be the fun dad and I'll be this and that. When it's playtime, between me and Taylorin, I dummy tail in the fun, the fun category. I absolutely murder her. Like, I'm out there.

My kids are like, Daddy, pretend this. I'm pretending I'm that right then and there. But on the other hand, when it comes to discipline, Taylor's not as hard in them as I am. And I found myself in the good, like I'm a good, solid grumpy dad now. I do a great job of finding some grump in me. And my kids are starting to look at the look when they're not listening to mom, and I get one of these.

They just know right there and there. I got to go do what I was supposed to do. So I had to have a big talk with Wynn this week because she was, it was a full moon outside on Saturday. I don't know if you guys saw that. But they were out there damn near howling, bro. They were going crazy on the whole thing. It was a bit of a deal, ma'am.

It truly was kids, ma'am. And just it never stops. So when you two have kids, just make sure you're ready. Because there is no downtime. There's no chill boy. There's no time for Mitch to go make his crackers peanut butter and jelly. Dad, there's no time to leave work at noon on a Friday to go work out. Well, actually, that time will still.

be there because you'll be at work. Do we want to go down this road? We're just having fun, dude. I know. I know. I would, you need to look at my contract. Oh,

is your contract say I get to work at noon on Fridays? No, it says that I'm in the shop four days a week when I'm here five days a week every week. So, I mean, if you were on the business side of it, then I don't know. Or is required.

Yeah. The people that are listening now, if you're here for Gary Vee, great. We'll get to him in about 30 minutes. But I want you guys to know. that without you guys subscribing, unsubscribing,

sending it to your friends, commenting, all that stuff, we're nothing. We're absolutely nothing. We're just one big dumb idiot and his other big dumb idiot spewing bullshit into a microphone while nobody watches.

Without you guys, we're nothing. So, Jack, thank you for coming in five days a week, I guess, brother. I appreciate that. You're never off. We're never off. We're never off. What do you mean?

You take plenty off. What do I take off? Do you think I just go home and I fuck around? I don't think about this at all? I don't know. I'm not there answering emails, dude. I got a computer now. I got a computer.

You guys know what I might have coming up the pipe? We don't want to say it on the show. What number of computers? What's that? How many computers have you had? Is that the second, third? That's my third computer in 24 months. But that's not a bad number, right?

Like, how long have you had your computer? I still have the same computer from college. I'd hate to see the search history on that. Yeah, but I mean, I still have it. I haven't lost it. And I have the one that you all gave us. And I don't lose my stuff. I, uh,

Jack, how long have you had your computer? I got a new one, I think two years ago. But I, that's my personal computer. And then I've had this one for, I don't know,

probably the same amount of time. I think I got this one after I got my personal one. What's the point of having two computers? I bought my own computer. And then we started getting paid here. And then I got this one. So this one came like, I think, six months afterwards. So we're computer personal computer.

Did I, did I pay for that computer? No, I don't think so. Boston? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean, I guess in a way, maybe you did? Absolutely. Maybe.

100%. Probably Will more than you. No. I mean. Will and I get paid the same. Oh, I don't know. Every dollar that we spend, we don't make. I don't know.

I paid for half of that. Yeah, maybe. I paid for half of that computer. Yeah. Where are we getting that right here? Nothing, nothing, dude. Really, he's filibustering my own podcast right now. That's all I'm fucking doing.

I'm just trying to have a good time. Should we hit a Twisted question? We don't technically have one in the reads, but I think it's still fun. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. March 5th. Go ahead, Mitch. Oh, my God. You got to stay ready, dude.

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but it's kind of like a I don't know how to describe it say so the question is you're doing great so far by the way say your kid gets kidnapped and the only way to get them back is to kidnap somebody else's kid yes

but you never give the other person's kid back done I get my kid back though you get your kid back absolutely that is the easiest Taylor do you want your child back yes would you do anything to have your child I'll ruin another family's life to preserve mine.

Yeah, do another one. And some of you think I'm a bad guy for that. You guys don't have kids. Or you hate your kids. My kids rip other than when it's a full moon. Would you change that, Jack? No, and I don't even have kids. I just know if I had a kid,

I'm 100% doing anything in my power to get my kid back. But you have a dog that you love, right? I would steal someone else's dog to get my dog back. Do you steal somebody else's kid? Probably. Good. That's a guy with good morals. What about, kind of along the same lines.

What crime would you commit to, like, if you committed this crime, then it can never happen again. Like, in all of humanity. Yeah, that's a good one. But you have to commit the crime yourself. Yes. Okay. My first thought is murder.

Wait, so the question is, you commit the crime and it's... It'll never happen again once you commit the crime. Like, for eight. anyone in existence, you're like, you like one small bad thing to clear like a bunch of. Right. No, saying like, it's like, if you, like you tell us it, if you, you have to murder somebody and then murder will never happen again. Forever. For everybody.

Or like. Everybody ever. So essentially I fall on the grenade of whatever the thing is. And this is the answer. Because a lot of people are like, oh, I don't know. Because what if I, I have to do this then. Think of the worst thing. The worst crime ever.

The thing that affects people the most. I don't have that answer. That's what I'm doing. that's what I'm going to do. And it's going to, I'm going to look like a terrible person. But it's kind of like one of those. Do you take one person out to save 100? You know what I'm saying?

The railroad dilemma. The railroad dilemma, yes. If I, I don't want to say what the crime is, but we can all use our imagination on what the worst possible crime is. Right? Mitch, you thinking about one? Say it out loud. Say it out loud, Mitch.

Jack, say something bad. What? Any crime? The worst crime you could possibly think of sex trafficking. I would sex traffic. Don't clip that. Don't clip that. But just listen, hear me out, dude.

Yes, it's a horrible thing. And that is the reason why. How many times, Super Bowl is a big one. Every super, that's like the biggest time of the year for sex trafficking. If I commit one sex traffic, just one. And I know it's terrible because I've ruined that person's life. I'm now viewed as one of the worst people that's ever lived in the entire world. It never happens again, ever.

So I'm a hero. But it's like one of those things, is it known that it'll never happen again? Or is it just, it's not like a said thing like Taylor committed this crime, therefore it'll never happen again. It's just one of those things that just never happened. Right.

I just know it never happens again. I never get the credit for obviously stopping sex trafficking. So you wouldn't necessarily be a hero. You'd be a hero. I would know. I would know. But isn't that what it's being a hero is all about? Huh? If you live for the cheers, you're going to die by the booze.

For me, if I know I could stop sex trafficking, and all I have to do is commit it, which sucks, right? We've already identified that it sucks really bad. We hate that. If I commit that, I'm going to go to jail and I'll be murdered very quickly, right? So my pain and suffering will be out. But there will never be sex trafficking again. All the kids, all the girls I'm going to save, I might be the best dude ever. Would you guys change anything?

It was a good speech, right? Yeah, it was a great speech. Yeah. What would you do, Mitch? I feel like you said Super Bowl and what immediately popped in my head was the like mass shooting. That would, I mean, just thinking about. Yeah, you'd have to go mow down some cats, huh? Yeah, that would be terrible.

But like the fact that it's, there's, it's happening more than we actually know. So like, I think that's a bit ridiculous. So I think that would be something I would maybe do. But here's a good thing. On this bus right now, Sex trafficking is gone forever and mass shootings. Forever. Jack.

What's the final, what's the final ring? The final stone. I'm going to OD for the boys. Oh, shit. Yeah. No more drug problems. But I think you have to be committing, or you commit to crime.

That's crime. So you would just OD? I guess so. I mean, if it's going to save, I mean, it's the biggest epidemic right now in America is the opioid crisis. so. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, there's a lot of answers you can do. I just don't feel comfortable saying most of them. Right? Right. But I'm glad you guys said mine. Yeah. I'm glad you guys said mine. Do you want me to say one for you?

For me? Yeah. Do you want me to say one for you? Go ahead. Start to the C is the first word. Second word is an R. You know what he's in? Oh my God.

What was that back there? I've not been feeling. I don't want to say it. I don't want to say. I feel too uncomfortable. saying it. Grape. Oh,

I think he said C. Yeah, the first words of C. Oh, yeah. You're not going to do that? No, I mean, I just, let's, I don't want to even. We're not having fun anymore. We're not having fun anymore. I'm not having fun talking about it.

I thought what this podcast is about. We've got to have a good time. So let's just rewind that back. We're not going to cut it, but we're just going to pretend like it never existed. Your boy over here doing what he's doing. You guys said it. If you didn't hear it, don't rewind it because I don't want to repeat it.

Mitch is shooting everybody. And Jack is, oh, damn. I feel like Jack, you got out the easiest. But I'm also saving probably the most lives. Yeah. I know I am. You know you are. You know you're saving the most lives.

I mean, taking illegal drugs. It's not prescribed. Unless you're in Oregon. Yeah, yeah. I feel like that's a cop out, right? It's illegal to take drugs that are not prescribed. But you have to be. be arrested for it.

You can be arrested. And then OD? Yeah, but you're not going to be like, oh, dead guy OD, put some cuffs on them. Get some fingerprints. I'm saving the most lives. So regardless, I'm the biggest hero or not. Yeah. No one.

It's okay. Now, on this bus, we don't condone drugs, right? No. No, we don't. But stick with me here. If Jack ODs and no one ever can OD again, we could all just start taking drugs, right? So I'm a hero to a mini. It's a mini

One dude's You know Start smoking some crystal meth And be like Thank you McPherson That's big dude It's big This question is really

It doesn't that just take away drugs Might have to rethink your answer Jack I think we're thinking too deep into this at this point Yeah you're right We did a good job of switching it up Going back to happen a good time That's what we want Yeah

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like, the next ad I read is definitely going to, like, fall apart. That's a tough ad. Yeah. There's a lot of verbiage.

There's a lot of verbiage. And I'm glad you're recognizing that, Jack. That's just kind of, I'm a words of affirmation guy.

That's my love language. And for you to do something like that in a time like this after what the conversation we just went through means quite a bit to me, brother.

Um, let's talk a little football for a second, dude. Obviously, it's like we're in a big dead period about football. Free agency is coming around the bend. One guy I want to talk about specifically,

the king, Derek Henry. Where do we think Derek Henry is going to go? Because I know there's a lot of places saying Baltimore. So let's take Baltimore out of it. There's two places in my mind that King Henry needs to go to. Do you guys want me to go? And then you guys give me an answer or you want, what do you want to go first? I only have one in mind that I think is probably the same

as yours and it's Dallas. Dallas is one of them. Yeah. I think I was going to say Buffalo. Yeah. Buffalo is a good one too. But I think they have Cook, right? Yeah. Is he a free agent? No.

No. Then maybe Derek's out on that. That would be a great thing for him to have. The thing that Derek is not his favorite thing to do is zone read. Like he doesn't like turning his shoulders away from the line of scrimmage. He likes to get downhill. He likes the outside zone, the duos, the doses, the inside zone type stuff. So any kind of RPO is kind of tough. And I feel like Buffalo utilizing Josh Allen has more of a difficult time.

just doing some downhill run game type stuff. Under center, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, Dallas is one of them for me. First off, guy lives in Dallas in the offseason. He, having the star, even if you're an Eagles fan, even if you're a Redskins fan or commanders fan or a Giants fan, wearing the star in your head is one of the coolest things you can do as a football player. That brand that Jerry Jones has created is one of the most incredible things ever.

But Tony Pollard, I don't know if he had a great year or, whatever, but getting Dak Prescott opportunities to just hand the ball off once in a while and not put so much pressure on him automatically puts that team into the discussion they're always in in week eight, week nine of the season. Week eight, nine of season, we got Dak as an MVP, we got Cowboys winning the Super Bowl, this, that, and the other. They have a great football team. I don't think McCarthy's a guy there. They should put Mike Brayball there, but that's a conversation for a different time. If you bring Derek Henry to the Dallas Cowboys, you have legit contenders there. That's what you have.

the Dallas Cowboys. And all it takes is the piece of Derek Henry. You have an outstanding offensive line. Tyrant Smith is a free agent, but he's getting older anyway. He's been on the same contract for like 15 years, it seems like. He's still got a lot of fight left in him. I believe he'll go somewhere in play. But like we all get, look at my knee, look at me, dude, you get old and you get out of it

eventually. You're going to find a little younger there. But Zach Martin, still kicking, still crushing it. Very strong, great gel, great continuity on that offense line. They got weapons on the outside and a quarterback that, regardless of, you know, some people's beliefs can sling the ball like no one's business. So you put Derek Henry on there, dude. You've got to have him on there.

If he goes there, I'm telling you the Cowboys are making a big run at the playoffs in the NFC. The next place, and this is me just thinking from the roots that I've been a fan of for a while. You see the shirt I'm wearing 2024 champs. These aren't even available at the shop, but we should do a day this week. You know what we're going to do that. This week, wait for my tweet at Taylor-Lewan 77. these shirts and the Michigan Championship clothing will be on sale for one hour

at store at barstoolsports.com slash bustle with the boys. That's where it's going to be. Already? Right after they went live, right after they won. After they went live, then we took them down and not get C&D. Then we put them up for an hour and took them back down and we didn't get C&D.

So I'll double check on that. If we're not C&D right now, I'm going to put these things out here at some point during the week for one hour. So keep a close watch. not if you're a Michigan fan. But that brings me in everything I'm about to say. The Los Angeles Chargers would be an incredible place for Derek Henry to go.

Who's a new head coach? One of the goats. Harbaugh. What does he love to do? When they played Penn State in the second half, Mitch, you'll know those because you're a Penn State fan. How many times they run the ball? 30 times in a row. They did not register one pass in that game.

We know there was a PI type of situation. I don't even get into that. They love to run the ball. They love to impose their will. The charges, you think of them, you think of Justin Herbert, you think of Keenan Allen, who we've already brought up once

in this podcast on accident, and a bunch of the weapons they have Mike Wallace. They want to throw the ball. They want to be a high-flying offense. What did I mess it up? Mike Williams. Fuck, dude. Mike Williams, excuse me.

Who also might not even be there next season. That's okay. It doesn't change anything I'm about to say. They have been a team that throws the ball 45, 50 times a game, and they hardly run the ball. They use Austin Eccler in a very good way. Obviously, he's a back that can get out in open space and catch the ball, very different from

Derek Henry. He's a free agent this year. If you put Derek on that team with a left tackle that had, I believe, a bicep tear, but he's coming back with made a pro bowl in his rookie year. Absolute stud. Offens line that's gotten better and better each year. You put him there and you allow to take some of that pressure off, Justin Herbert, which we already know he's a generational type of talent.

love Justin Herbert. I haven't watched enough of his games to go plant my flag in the ground and say, this is the guy, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I know he's an absolute stud. I think he's got a massive contract too, right? Boom. So that tells you everything you need to know right now. You put Derek Henry on that team with Harbaugh. He gets to get with Herb,

that strength coach. He gets to have Jesse Minter as the DC to get that defense with all the stars on there to go up. We're talking about possible contenders in year one. That's if the boys buy into Harbaal's unique personality. That's what I think. I think If you're able to get Harbaugh, if you're able to believe in Harbaugh and buy in the way the kids bought in at the University of Michigan and put your pride and set it to the side and know, yeah, we're going to do some cheesy shit sometimes.

Who's got it better than that? That's not cheesy at all. But these very unique kind of isms that Harbaal has, if you can get past that and kind of just buy into his winning culture, Chargers. You guys could legit win it all. I'm a fan this year. I'm going to be a fan of the Chargers this year as well. Obviously, I'll always be a Titans fan. but I'll be a fan of the charges this year too

it's another team that I'm picking what do you guys think about that yeah I like Dallas I think Dallas would be my favorite landing spot for Derek I think he could utilize their office Tony Pollard so I think on his way out there yeah

I don't know it's gonna be sad regardless as a Titans fan I know but I'm excited to see exactly where he goes and like the longevity of it like does he go one more year somewhere and then hang him up or is he in this for like another three seasons type thing and you saw the way he was talking you saw the way he was talking on the bus i mean for him to go 10 plus years was he on year nine right now this is year eight you just finish year eight yes it's going to year nine going to

your nine if you're like a decade is one of the you know staple running backs the NFL is just it's insane already a first ballot hall of hammer yeah absolutely now you obviously we haven't talked about the Titans at all. The chances of Derek going to the Titans is very small. I got like minute. But we've said on his podcast, dude, he's like 600 yards away or something like that, a very achievable goal away from beating Eddie George's rushes with like a hundred less carries already. What's that? He has more than 100 less carries. He's got, I mean, I think he's got, he's got a hundred total touchdowns with his five touchdown passes and his three receiving touchdowns, but he has a chance to break, and he's already the best running back

in Titans, Oilers franchise history. I said Oilers, yes, I did history, but if he stays for one more year, it's truly cemented. There's no going back, no take backsies on Derek Henry. That's the kind of cat we're fucking talking about here. And that to me is cool, because I think legacy is a very cool thing. And obviously, Derek, regardless of what he does and where he goes, he's going to have the same kind of treatment Eddie George has when he comes, when he's obviously, obviously he lives in Nashville, but when he goes back to the stadium,

it's like one of the all-time greats. Derek Henry is one of the all-time greats regardless of how much longer he plays and who he plays for. But I just personally, and this is not, if you're a young football player, trying to learn the ins and outs of football, do not think like me.

Because I am a extremely, and I say this, it's a bad quality. I'm an extremely loyal cat to the franchise. Like to the Titans, like even if I could play football, which I cannot, I would have been like,

I only want to play for the Titans. You put on one uniform for so long You buy into something for so long I just wanted to be a part of that So going somewhere else Although the idea is cool like I mean Jersey Jerry would always bring up Hey go to the Steelers go to the Steelers

Like yeah that would be sick To play for the Steelers It'd be sick to play for Kansas City It'd be sick to play for all these other teams But something about The boys in the two-tone blue man The guys, the underdogs The constant underdogs of the NFL

That's where I belong That's where I belong Derek, he belongs to the highest bidder. That's what I mean, that's what he needs. Yeah, I just don't sickening. Dude, that would be sickening for the Titans fans. I mean, Stephen Nair did it. So, I mean, really.

Yeah. It's very much a normal thing for Titans players. The fall of the Ravens. It's weird. Seeing him in like those all black unis, I think it would be so hard. Yeah, I'd go hard with the dark vising and everything too. they have dope-ass uniforms. They have dope uniforms.

Baltimore just suck to living, man. I don't even know shit about Baltimore, but the times that I played there, driving through, and it's like never a good area around the stadium in any place you play. But like, damn, I drive through that. I was like, get me a crap kick and get me out of here, man.

That's kind of what I want to do when I'm in Baltimore. I remember when I went up for that second round playoff game when you guys beat the shit out of them. I was walking to Titans' Jersey. Thursday, and I remember a cop stopped me and was like, hey, man, like, welcome. I hope you guys have fun. He's like, whatever you do all day, he goes, do not cross those railroad tracks. He goes, don't do it.

He goes, there's a really big chance if you do that, you're not coming back. And I was like, no shit. I was like, all right, appreciate the heads up. But yeah, the bank is like smack dab in the middle of bad project areas. Which kind of adds, right? Kind of adds that cool shit. Yeah, because the Ravens do have. that type of attitude.

Like, I know people hate the Ravens in Nashville, Tennessee. I don't hate them like that. I just think I don't want to live in Baltimore. But I think, like,

Lamar Jackson, cool. Like, who's, Humphreys? Marlon Humphreys? He seems like a cool guy. They didn't see,

OBJ, who I think is a free agent, but like, they didn't seem like they have a cool squad. Ronnie Stanley. There's another dude that's on there that I think is like a,

a cool guy from what I know about. I've talked to him a few times. But, anyway, I think it'll be cool to watch Where do you think Justin Fields is going to end up? Part of me feels like he's going to stay with the bears. You can bet on it.

Hashtag DK. And partner. Hashtag DK. partner. He's like very good odds, like low odds to go to Atlanta. Yeah. Atlanta would be a good stop for him. I mean,

it's just tough because the guy has all the talent in the world. He just hasn't been able to put it together. Now is that coaching? Is that development? development is that work ethic i don't know the guy seems like he owns the locker room when it comes to all the boys the way his teammates talk about him i have a hard time with ohio state quarterbacks we've only seen one guy with one year of experience that's really shown that they can get it done and that's cj straub i think just they can do it ages the bears organization has

they've been abysmal historically been a shitty organization yeah historically well don't, since like the 60s. But they just, they haven't, if you look at their quarterbacks the past 20, 30 years, like there's nobody that really sticks out. I mean, they went to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman. Yeah. He's not really anything crazy,

but I think the organization did him wrong. So you think he should leave? You think they're going to take J.J. McCarthy and the first overall pick, and then they're going to bench him? I think they're going to take Caleb Williams. But I think Judging Fields should get out.

If the bears are going to move on from fields, they need to trade him before. Obviously, everybody already knows that. But the minute you pick somebody up in the first overall pick as a quarterback, that quarterback you had before, his trade value has gone in the dumps. Because they know you need to get rid of him.

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educated possible decision you possibly could. So shout out, draft king's sports book, hashtag DK partner. Do we want to hit a shout out, no free shout out? Mitchie starts off. All right, last week I

Shout out hugs With your boys this week Shout out giving compliments to your boys Just hyping your boys up I know sometimes Yeah, dude Taylor walks in with his sunglasses on Like I know last week

I'm like yeah you look like Maverick from Top Done Me rooster Rooster That's right With them And I could just immediately Just see your face light up

I mean I'm always there for you with the compliments You are dude But when you receive one From your boys too Like you're just like Will complimented my shoes one time. Like, you know, every time I wear these shoes, I'm like, hey, come on.

I know Will. I know Will likes these shoes. There's, there's like, just, you need to hype your boys up more. And I think it's some people, like, some guys might find it weird. Like, girls are doing it all the time. Like, you see it on Instagram. Like, you see all the comments. Oh, like, you're gorgeous, whatever.

Do, da, da, da. Why can't guys do that? Yeah, why can't guys coming on your Instagram and say you're gorgeous? Normalized dudes hyping up dudes. So shout out giving compliments. your boys. That's been a staple of busting with the boys for the longest time. But it's an oldie, and it's an oldie but a goodie, dude. There's always, by the way, it's an oldie but a goodie. Every time you get the chance to tell your boy they're doing something, right, it's great

because it hits you on the scale of, because we all like to shit on each other too, right? We just had a five minute deal about S&L and how it's fun to shit on your boys and it's not fun to get shit on. But there's a pendulum swing when you get to give your boys a couple compliments too. So when you do get in the nitty gritty of coming at somebody for going to work at it on Friday at noon. They know they're your fucking boy no matter what.

And that's the beautiful thing about it, dude. I love that one, Mitch. Jackie, what you got for us, baby? What do I have? Do you want me to go?

Yeah, go ahead. All right. Shout out dudes being prepared for a podcast. I'm just talking with you. I want to shout out Lucy. Listen to this. That's a breaker.

That's a breaker. I got mine. I just want to put another one in. The thing I've noticed about these Lucy's compared to the old brand I'd use, like these are more milligrams, but I keep these in way longer

because the flavor lasts for such a long time. I felt the same way while I was using them. My last ones, I was going through two cans a day. And with these ones, I'll go through one can a day. And it's a tremendous difference because it balances out. This is one more milligram of my last brand. My shout-out, no-free shout-out goes to

establishing family traditions. So... In October of this year, I think I mentioned this already, Taylor's grandmother passed away. And Ms. Connie, she was a phenomenal woman, Irish lady, lived on the same plot of land her entire life. That's not true that she lived down the road too. But she lived in this house that Taylor and I, when we first met, we bought it.

And we was like, hey, you just live, enjoy your life type of thing. And when I would go to Canada with her, I would always go and make time with Connie to go get some tea. And I would sit there. It would just be me and her. and she'd make me tea and we would drink it and she would just, I would sit there and just listen and she would talk and talk and talk and talk and I didn't see her a whole lot because obviously I'm traveling a bunch and I live in the States, but always a pleasure to be around that woman.

So she passes away. And one thing she always did for Taylund and the kids was, and even when Taylor was a kid was she would make like homemade spaghetti and meatballs. And so ever since then, every Sunday, Taylor makes noodles by scratch, like the flour, the egg, everything. She makes meatballs by scratch. She sets up this entire dinner. They all go out and buy red flowers because it was Connie's favorite color. And Wynne is in charge of setting up the entire table, which she takes the most amount of pride in.

To the point where Willow and I aren't allowed to be in the room, which hipes me up because that's less work for me to do, are like, weren't allowed to be in a room because she's so excited to show us. And every Sunday, we have this giant meal of just meatballs and pasta or whatever. And that fires me up because I think. think about it is like when I grew up, I can't remember one time, one time ever sitting with my mom, my dad, and my brother and having a family meal, not once. But I know that my kids, when they're older and they go somewhere, they're going to miss the meatballs. They're going to miss this and like the small traditions that, hey, what are your parents doing today? Well, it's Sunday. You know they're having their Italian dinner, the two of them right now or something like that. Establishing traditions,

I feel like it's like the best, one of the best core values of having a happy family. So shout out, family traditions. Thank you, boys. That was a good one. I'm going to shout out, finally, caving to your friends who's been convincing you to watch a show that you've put off for a while. In mind, the specific show is Masters of the Air. You haven't watched it yet?

Very, very good show on TV. Have you seen it? I'm caught up. Yeah. Last night, I watched like four episodes in a row. So I think I got like one more maybe. to get fully caught up, but it takes me a second. Like, I like to stay in my lane of shows.

And even, like, if, like, a guy you respect their opinion on whether it's movies or TV, tells you to do something, part of you just sometimes is not there. You're not fully invested. So last night, finally took the commit, jumped off, and it is a phenomenal show. And just that era of World War II and just kind of like how life is so much different and, like, it moves a little bit slower when they're just kind of in their off time. I really appreciate that kind of, like the charm of that era in the meantime while they're going bombing the Nazis. Oh, yeah, dude.

It's been a great show and I'm excited to see where it goes. Hey, for those of you had seen the show, this is a spoiler alert, but I'm going to ask Jack a question. What part are you on right now? I'm trying to think what was the last thing I saw because I kind of dozed off in the last episode, but I don't want to give away like anything. Because my specific reference is going to be somebody who's no longer that I... Yeah. Everybody loves. Yeah.

Everybody loves this guy. So I'm not sure exactly where we go from there, but I just want to get caught up. Tonight I'm going to get fully caught up because I believe there's six episodes out right now. Yeah, six episodes. The next one comes out March 1st. March 1st. And then do you know how many episodes there are in the full season? I don't.

I'm sure there's eight, maybe 10. Hopefully 10. I know. I'd hope to. Because, like, yeah, the show is amazing. And I, you guys know, I love, I absolutely am obsessed with aviation. And to see these boys in the air, bombs going off, coming back, most of them coming back, actually, sometimes only a couple coming back.

And their planes are like hanging on by a thread. And they're still able to get back home. Dude. It is insane. The intensity, because you got these old bombers in the 40s and the 40s and the, and the, during World War II, it's like six dudes on a plane. Two pilots, two gunners, a navigator, and then, oh, there's two more. One guy in the bottom with a little gun thing, which that's got to be the scariest one.

And in like that first episode, I guess there's like a breach in it. It's like negative 50 while they're flying. And he's just getting like frostbite in the tank. Bro, and all those guys, like imagine being like, I never thought about this, but being the pilots one thing, but being the navigator where bullets are just going off and you're like, Hey, Charlie, blah, blah, blah, blah. You got to, like, while we're getting shot. Like two degrees north.

Yes, bro. And you're like, tell us where we're going. Hey, Crosby, where are we headed? You're like, oh, and he's, like, freaking out, like, doing his little, that's got to be the most stressful job. Because nowadays, it's just fully automated. Dude, you got two boys in there doing their thing. But then they're a little using, like, a protractor and, like, a ruler to just make sure they're on the right degree of angle.

Yeah, and being a pilot, too, when, when all that flax's coming in, and you're just like, we're just going to fly straight. Straight through it. Just, yeah, and it's like one thing, like blows out one part of the thing, but the plane's still rolling.

Hey, engines out. Yeah, three engines are out. We got one left. Yeah, cut it off, start threading it. They just say the same shit every single time.

It's like, damn, bro. And you're just on the edge of your seat, like truly like heart rates at 120, watching these boys try to bomb a sight. It's just crazy. Crazy. So,

yeah, that's an outstanding one. Have you seen it, Mitch? Bro, you need a jump on that. I think the strategy of it, too,

They're going for like the ball bearing factories. Like they'll slow the production of all the war machines in Germany. Yeah, the railroads. Going for like the army bases. They're going for the like production sites that are the reason the armies are thriving. And I like the strategy aspect of that. Yeah. I, I, dude, my heart goes out to you though with what's his name.

Yeah. I don't, I mean. Same to you. It hurts, dude. It feels like it's not over. but I don't know we're gonna in your head though

it's like it can't be over because if that's the guy it's like there would have been way more of a we talk about it a story about it

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The way he gets after life, the way he approaches life on a day-to-day basis when he came into, this is in Vegas when we shot this, when he came into our suite to shoot this episode. He was on the phone, hangs up. Boom. He's got four or five cats with him. Very diverse group, by the way. Good for him. He sits down.

does the entire podcast as soon as he's up he's very polite shakes hands daps everybody up we get a photo and then he's literally grabs his phone from his assistant and he's back on the phone dude is an absolute grinder this guy he puts out he's all about quantity of content he's out there on a daily basis he's literally there at the shop on mute doing calls so people can just see the fact that he's working then all of a sudden he'll unmute it talk to the chat get some questions and that type of thing you're truly going to enjoy it i really have hopefully we get to do more things to gary in the past man because it was a really great time so please enjoy big hugs tiny kisses and before we start please for the love of god subscribe on subscribe resubscribe be a friend and tell a friend about this

show it's the only reason why we've been able to do all this cool shit we appreciate you guys so much enjoy this episode it seems like we're rolling right yeah good to go nice man to kick it off i i i have to say like you you've been a very indirect influence in like the ascendance of busing just I came upon you probably a lot of your stuff was getting in front of me like my first or second year in the league. Yeah. But just to give you those flowers, like it is, it's an honor to have you on the podcast. Thank you for saying that. It means, you know, this whole era now, because I was in it early, like it feels crazy to have a positive impact on people from afar. And so I appreciate that makes me feel super nice. I'm pumped to be on the show, by the way. Yeah, you talk about like obviously people seeing success. It's like that like, like, like,

that kind of dumb chart you see on a teacher's wall where it's like an iceberg and the tip of success and everything else is all the hard work and a lot of videos you talk about like from 06 to 07 how like you started to get into the content game

not knowing that's really that's what it is at the time but the struggle of doing 365 days before you get a call to go on a late night show like people don't understand like your wife's looking at you your friends are looking at you you're like yo Gary what the hell is he doing man

like he's just out here acting crazy and especially back then when I told everybody I'm going to do this YouTube was four months when I started my show. So like it wasn't like people, like what you're doing now, people are like, oh, podcast can hit. Right, yeah.

Like it's known. When I was like, I'm doing this, people thought I lost my mind. Like I, it can't be overstated. Like my brother, excuse me, my best friend Brandon and my dad, because we, and my cousin Bobby, the core of four of us who were running the liquor store at the time, I was the guy. I was buying the wine, I was selling the wine,

I was marketing, I was on the floor. And now I'm taking all this time, to record in front of a camera and put it on the internet, that would be like me telling you right now, listen, the three of us have to go to Mars, set up a lemonade stand, and it's gonna work. It was that far fetched to them. And so, yeah, but for me, my whole life,

you know, this may really resonate with you in a lot of the audience. I'm almost like reverse Alan Iverson. Like, I like the practice. I like the crap that no one's saying. It's a really important part to me. I enjoy when it's small. Like I'm doing Twitch right now.

Live streaming, are you doing it right now, actually, Dustin? A little something, in and out. But like in my office, I'm sitting in my office doing 10 hours of meetings and Twitch is running in the background, 90% on mute. And people are watching it, but not a lot. Like, why would you watch that? It's like almost ASMR for entrepreneurs.

I unmute a bunch, I do questions, I give away stuff, we hang out. But I watch it, I'm like, okay, hundreds of people are watching now, but I already know my brain. Tens of thousands of people are going to watch me go about my business day in six years. And like that gets me off more than anything. I love the hundred views, not the millions of views I have on social. I'm almost like, it's almost why I think I love the Jets so much.

The chase to finally get it is more interesting to me than getting it. When the Yankees won the World Series, I stopped watching the Yankees. but like the climb the behind the scenes there's multiple layers to everything you just said because we can go into the Jets thing where it's like when you finally get to the result your process has been all the way apart of like

is the fulfillment going to be there or you're going to look back and be like damn the process was truly the best part I already know the process the best part but you haven't bought it yet I know but sitting there with a green suit on signing the piece of paper

and you're going to be like that process was tight I own the Jets I believe that that that at 48, I believe that I'm very confident telling you that I already know. Like to the point where like I almost, and I'm gonna say this,

this may sound weird to a lot of people. I'm curious if I get some DMs or emails about this from people that have experienced this. I'm actually so extreme on process over the thing that I sometimes almost get like this weird, not depression, but like, I don't know, I'm gonna try to articulate it because it's what I do,

but like I'm almost weirdly scared of how not great that moment might be. Almost to let that, like I don't know, I'm so into the chase that getting it is like, all right. Like I don't, it's actually, I think it's a little fucked up

and I'm working on this. I'm trying to be better at smelling the roses and enjoying my brother, who's 11 years younger to me, has been very wise on this with me in my whole life. Like, we would just do these things

when he was 22. We started the company and like a lot of great things have happened over the last 14 years. And like he kind of, he's like, bro, like, good things would have. We sold a piece of our company to Stephen Ross, who owns the Miami Dolphins. Yeah. That was like a meaningful event at the time.

University of Michigan guy. I mean, that's right. Big event. Like, changed the course. Mainly I was very enthralled to do it because I knew for AJ would be money that really changed his life at that point being in his young 20s. Like, it was a real catalyst. Like, it hits the bank account.

It looks weird when you've got those kind of dollars in your account. You've been at it. Looks like a phone number with an area. You know, and I was like, I don't know. Like, I didn't even like, I don't know. Like, it's very consistent in my life. I just, I'm obsessed with the chase, and I think a lot of people listening can resonate.

Other people enjoy the winning over and over, and it is about the trophies and the success. I like the process. And by the way, I'd like to be a little bit better about smelling the roses and enjoying these big moments, but I just like the game. I like the practice. I like the grind.

When you say you work on it, how do you work on it? Meaning how am I working on trying to enjoy the roses by talking to your brother or stuff like that. By talking to myself about it. I think we all do that. Like I think everyone has an inner dialogue. We all talk to ourselves about shit.

Every one of us right now, us in front of the camera, the crew behind the camera, and definitely everybody's watching. We know some shit right now that we wish we were doing better or something that's bothering us. And you know this.

We all talk ourselves into a tipping point where we do something about it. Right. I try to get better and better at making, fixing it, or making it better happen faster than dragging it out. That's what I'm working on.

Do you utilize like a resource, like a mentor or a group of guys or a therapist or? Ish on all fronts. You know, I think not having a true, like my parents in a lot of ways are the only thing close to a mentor. You know, I need to be better at being a little bit more vulnerable with my inner circle. I was born in the Soviet Union. I came to America. My dad starts working every minute. He was never around because he was trying to provide for the family.

My mom was only 20 years older than me. I had a sister who was three years younger. And as long as I can remember, I'm talking like six, seven, my mom's like, you're the leader for your sister. And I grew up in the 80s. We'd go outside and play all day. So I actually had to keep an eye on her. And I was like eight and she was five.

And we're just in the wild. You know, back in the day, we did a different, you know, like crossing the railroads. I mean, we would cross the street. Cars are like kids frogger. Like, you know, like, and it was just like ingrained in my mom by my mom, like, you take care of her, you take care of her. I naturally had my personality, so I was definitely also like a leader amongst our friends. And so like, and then I started being very important in my family's liquor store business as a teenager. And by the time I was 22, I was running the business.

it's always been on my shoulders and I always felt like I was the guy emotionally and financially for everything that I've ever been a part of and so, you know, I didn't feel like I had permission for the vulnerability. I felt that if I showed cracks,

everything would tumble. And so that's the era I grew up in. That, you know, and honestly, a lot of it works for me. 95% of time, it works perfect. I like it. I want to take the last shot at the buzzer.

Like I want to be, I want the Montana versus Bengals moment. Like if I was ever a quarterback, please give me Super Bowl last drive of the game, go to win it. Like I live for that, right? I live for it. Even the pressure I put myself on

when I do something like this. This isn't Super Bowl game winning drive, but I walk in subconsciously saying, I'd like to say something that really helps someone on the other side. When you say that to me, when I first walk in, that's everything. Like, why wouldn't you wanna have a positive impact

on other human beings. It's the best. So I like pressure. I like putting it on me, but I'm very self-soothing, meaning, this is very left field, so bear with me, audience.

There's something weird when I see a cat licking themselves, like, right? I've always been fascinated by, I never understood why. I'm like, that's weird. Like I was, but I always would take note of it.

I was looking around. Like, yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry, everyone. But I'm really, like in third grade, ninth grade. I always wondered like, but. Yeah, I told him not to do the cat thing, he's doing the cat thing again. It's funny, the cat thing is like something a lot of people, Dustin, have you ever heard me talk about this?

Maybe once or twice, right? This is not a thing I bring out often, but it's been in my mind. There's something I really enjoy of when I most am feeling pressure, the most it's not going well, I kind of like going into like the shower and like just like thinking and like I it's almost like a action movie or like a superhero cartoon like I feel like I can fix myself you know like those sci-fi things where like the cut off the arm and the arm gets grown back in scene that's me emotionally like I get a lot of I have this thing where I'm able to do it right and I rely on that almost more than anything else and I'm not sure if I look back at this clip in 20 years

and be like that was naive I should have used and I can sense a piece of that. But you know, it's really hard when you're 48 and you're this happy. And you're not happy. I'm not happy because of my notoriety or financial reasons. I've always been like this. You know, I've always been happy because I keep shit simple. I think people complicate life. Like, you can have all the money, all the fame, all the sponsors. And then you guys are having a crushing week right now. It's cruising. I love watching you from a far building. But you know this. God forbid if you get a text right now and someone you love is in trouble

like health, like real shit. You don't give a fuck about this. And honestly, I think about that every day. Nothing I'm doing professionally matters. I'm completely detached from my success and notoriety. I just want the people I love to be healthy and good, I just want to wake up and play my game, which is being an entrepreneur.

I always envied. I always wanted to be an athlete when I was a kid, like a lot of guys. But then when I got older, I was like, wait a minute. Athletes go through this such hardcore transition. Like the thing you loved and were best at, you're going to stop in football, late 20s?

You're a child. If you're lucky, if it goes phenomenal, all-time phenomenal, mid-thirties, late 30s, you're a child. A 37-year-old that's watching this right now has no comprehension of how young they still actually are. Society has taught us the wrong shit.

like you're supposed to have your life figured out at 22. It's ludicrous. Like, I don't know. I think, I think, so these are the things that run through my mind and, like, are my emotional framework.

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rate five stars, buy the merch and back to this episode. It seems like the best, well, your best therapy is being by yourself with your thoughts. Yes. I'm my therapist, and there's something really powerful there. That being said, I've gone to therapy. I find it very valuable. I'm pumped. People are doing it. I love that people are doing ice bats. I love that people are doing, you know, meditation. I love that people are doing walks and exercise and reading and like, I think just like anything in life, everybody is watching.

Of the seven to ten things that we all know can make your life better, we all have a mix of the one or two that works best for us. My big thing to myself and to everyone is try them all and see what works for you. Like for, you know, and so I'm pumped when people sit and set out to meditate and that works for them. I feel like I'm meditating every minute.

I feel like I'm meditating right now in the meta of this interview. I'm locked in with y'all and the audience, but there is a part of me in the back of my head right now that's also kind of like zending out and was just like, isn't this great? Be grateful.

Like gratitude I think is a currency that runs heavy through me and I think it's something I want the world to be thinking about more because I think we spend way too much time complaining of what we don't have versus spending our energy on being grateful for what we do have.

You said something during all this about your process and everything. Talking about the cat and being like, I might look back on this in 10, 15, 20 years and be like, I probably should have gone about that a different way. Since you've been in the internet game for so long, you can truly go look back.

Yes. And essentially watch film on yourself. Your view is the way you approach stuff. What are some things you've looked back on in the past where you're like, okay, I can see where I navigated that incorrectly or not incorrectly, but I see things a little bit differently now. This is a great question.

And I really need people. you should be. It's a great question. It was really well done. It was pretty well done. It was very contextual to the moment. A little improv but macro. I thought it was really good.

The thing that stands out here and this I'm excited about answering as well, things are contextual. So I think a thing that people beat people up about, this is why cancel culture is so flawed. People trying to rewind shit from 29 years ago and yell at people for what is a social norm now, shit changes.

So when I was, making videos in 2008 and being like, yo, you gotta go hard at 9 p.m. to midnight. At that point, everyone was out of a job. The economy collapsed. And the internet was exploding. I was right. When someone brings it up now, 15 years later,

and be like, oh, people were burning out. I'm like, people didn't even know what the fuck burning out was then. People weren't worried about burnout. People were worried about fucking paying their bills. So I think a lot of what I look back What works for me that I highly talk to a lot of content creators, influencers about is like,

never say something you don't believe. The amount of people that say shit that they don't believe in, only with the hope of going viral, is a fucking disaster. No million views is worth looking back at it and being like you're an idiot. So the reason I don't have a lot of answers

to your question is because everything that's ever come out of my mouth, I mean. So I feel good there. But I think what's interesting is to look back at context. I think the things that I think about is, I think the middle, purple is the game. I think America's gotten way too red and way too blue. And purple is the magic.

So when I look at things back, sometimes I didn't create a hedge or a context point to my overall thought. So I'll give you a great one that's happening now. I'll break it fully down since we have a minute. As you two may know, and as some of the people who are watching who have seen my content,

I believe in volume of content. I believe it's crazy for you to do this show with me and not put out 150 clips from the show. But when I say 150, people take it, and I don't do a good enough job to say not 150 on Instagram. 150. For example, I think 12 YouTube shorts posts from this are important because if you title it properly,

YouTube's the second biggest search engine and somebody might watch a clip from this in three years and discover you guys. because YouTube works differently than TikTok. Then there's TikTok, then there's Facebook. Do you guys post clips on Facebook? Yeah, yeah. More, because it's a supply and demand issue right now.

I'm pretty sure you don't post on Pinterest. It's probably unlikely that you post on LinkedIn. LinkedIn, I would argue, is your biggest opportunity for your audience and how you roll. So when I think it, but I'll say in a clip, I'll look back and be like, post 40 times a day. And people take it as like, in their one channel and they're like, that's stupid,

or I don't get it, or I can't. Another thing that I've been thinking through, for example, because I've been speaking of volume of content for seven years, is I take for granted that I've made good content. You're making a good show. It has the potential to have seven or 12 or 15 pieces of content. I think of things now more, and I've always thought of it this way,

but I didn't articulate it, that it is a quality quantity framework. You should post 40 times a day over seven different platforms, if you have quality. Posting, for the sake of posting, is not going to do anything for anyone. So I think about those kind of things where in the speed that I talk

because I get hyper and excited, and the fact that sometimes it's limited, you know, you only have limited time, we're trying to get to a lot of stuff. Sometimes I don't finish out all the sentences or all the context. And that sometimes out of context, I'm like, oh crap,

I wish I had two more sentences because I know the audience took this out of context. When people were making fun of me of like, I was like, imagine your family being dead. And that went super viral in TikTok. I laugh at that because kids will roll up on me in the airport, like, imagine your family's dead. And I'm like, I realized that they didn't get the full context

of what I was trying to say, which is like, if you actually did, you could imagine how grateful you'll be. But out of context and then clipped or stitch, it can seem a little silly. So it's those full thought-out things that I leave on the table at times that I would look back on and be like, I wish I had three more sentences of context. Yeah, because what was that quote as like,

like shoot him in the fucking face or something like that. Exactly. I'm trying to make it in that talk that got clipped on. There was just a lot of like complaining. Like just complaining and complaining. So by the time I got to the 18th question, I'm like, I'm like, you guys are so entitled. Imagine horrible things.

Because horrible things do happen. As we sat here during this podcast, some bad things happen to people that is sad. they lost someone they loved. Like, bad stuff. And like, you know, I think about, I don't know how I'm not to think about that. Like, there's almost a billion people on Earth

that don't have access to clean water. Do you know what's saying that is? Like, like, I don't know, I don't know how not to, I don't know how to unsee that. There is literally 780 million people right now, predominantly in Africa and parts of India and parts of Asia, that literally within a 12-hour window

can't get to a cup of fresh, water. And then I have to listen to DMs about like why don't have a million dollars. Yeah. Like I just don't like, do you understand that every human being that's in Las Vegas right this minute for this week should fucking kiss the ground and be fucking thankful as fuck? They have nothing to complain about in real eight billion people in life. But that's not how life works. You live in your little reality. And when shit goes awry within your reality, it's annoying because you have it so good and you haven't contextualized the macro perspective of how remarkable you're there's no human watching this clip right now that doesn't have it awesome yeah but many

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Twisted tea is there to turn up your game day. Keep it twisted and grab a refreshing twisted tea today after you subscribe to this podcast. Big hugs, tiny kisses, back to episode the the the did you have something sorry yeah i was gonna go back to when you were talking about uh working on being more vulnerable with the with the people in your circle yes you obviously have a mind for business like that's what drives you in the process like you are obsessed with you love it you have a good piece out there and talking about balance like there's no balance do what you love like all those sorts of things but as like you you spoke to it too like being the leader in your household growing up being the leader being the leader of your businesses being the

leader of your family you do so well compartmentalizing and self-soothing and self-souzing and and everything else. How do you, like, talk about the times you got to check yourself with checking the pulse of the people, like, in your family, in your household, to where your drive and your balance might be indirectly affecting them in a way that it just, the wall has been broken down to be like, hey, me being vulnerable here, makes me feel better that I'm actually hearing this from you, Gary, because I didn't know you were actually going through that. And that helps the family grow with you because there's this bridge that starts to happen with your

work ethic. Yeah, I mean, I think it's still a work in progress. for me. And I also think people get comfortable in realities. Like, there's a lot of, like, peace of mind that I'm able to bring to the people I love the most by holding it fucking down. You know, and so, like, people love to

say to the alpha, I'd love to have you be more vulnerable and tell us. But then when you go there, it's like, fuck. And it's shake. Like, there's, it's a really fascinating thing that's happening in society. There's this big conversation of, like, we want our alphas, mom, grandma, dad,

uncle, whoever it is. boss to be more vulnerable, the reality is that there's a lot of insecurity in the world right now. And when the person that is your foundation starts to show cracks, people want to step up for that person, but often they're not the leader because they don't have the capacity to go there. I've flirted with vulnerability with everyone. I've also seen the reactions to it. Yeah. You know, we want more from bosses. Do you know if a boss went on and did an all company meeting if she or he just said, all let me tell you what I'm dealing with

and here's all my pains and struggles and concerns and we only have a month worth of cash flow so if we don't get this, people are scared shitless. Yeah. There's a real balance to this game. So I'm trying to find the purple.

Right. A lot of people are talking shit that they want their alphas to go more vulnerable, but they don't. If you really pay attention to what people want, and so like this is a conversation

that will play out in the next 20, 30 years. There's been a, there's been plenty of radicals, and demonization of alpha men over the last 20 years until we're in a war with China. I have a funny feeling that those alpha dudes that everybody likes to razz on, when shit hits the fan, they'll be cheering the fuck out of them.

Right. So that's just the way the world always worked. People just are very bad at history lessons. I love that answer. And I also love the Gary V Smirks that he gives. Yeah, when I know. Yeah. You get to line, that's a little, you know.

Yeah. The consumer can sit there and be like digest it for a second before it's the next sentence. The dramatic pause is a go-to. How about imposter syndrome? Somebody with your work-a. The new funny word that we've made it. Imposter syndrome, I'm sorry to interrupt. Imposter syndrome, you mean what we used to call insecurity?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The packaging of insecurity as imposter syndrome has me laughing my ass off and I'm glad I got to finally address it. I've said it maybe one other plate. Like, yes, what about insecurity? I was gonna say in your very like early stages like YouTube and you're taking your- Never. Not an escape.

No. And putting it out there in the status signaling. Not bad. Hitting on girls in high school, yes. I know what insecurity looks like, but not in business. Okay. The day I did that first- Social media.

You ready for this? The day I did that first video, in my head, driving home, I said to myself, I'm gonna fucking win this. I'm gonna be known. I'm gonna be the most important in wine business. Literally first one, because I knew I was gonna grind it. I don't know if I'm gonna buy the New York Jets.

You know why? I'm not fully in control, but I know I'm gonna give it a real fucking run. Right. You know, if the Johnson's put it up for sale tomorrow, I'm out. I just don't have enough money yet. But if they hold on to it in the range that I think they'll hold on to it, 18, 20, 16, 24 years, I'm in the mix.

I believe that to be true. So you're saying your foundation, your cloth was built, as this world of social media, comments, seeing negativity was there, but like as this stuff transpired and transcended in what as to what people... In high school, no one's opinion or peer pressure even remotely came to penetrate the way I walked around. I think that's the toughest environment.

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know it. This is fun to say as a 48-year-old man. In my late 20s, mid-30s, when I started being like, whoa, I was a weird kid in high school. I was friends with everyone. That was based on me not caring

that my cool friends were making fun of me for hanging out with my not cool friends. I didn't care. I wasn't willing to compromise on kindness. In the 90s, in New Jersey, in high school, there was no way to get to the upper echelon of popularity without being a dickface. You had to make fun of people.

It just was the currency. I wasn't willing to go there. And where'd you learn that? Like how'd you have that? How'd you have that in high school? My mom. My mom. Because it's like everybody deals with it.

I can't even think of myself being like, damn, you see somebody talk shit about how you played in the game. I'm thinking I'm in my 20s at this point. But in high school, that stuff, I'm just trying to imagine somebody that's just uncompromised about like, you know, I don't even know it. I'm detached from results even though I want them. Meaning when someone says stuff, I'm just, first of all,

there's a lot to it. Let's break it down. Let's, because we're bouncing. People shitting on you in social media should not be met with you being upset for you. It should be met with you being compassionate to them. Do you know how fucking sad a life is that you walk around the internet

and make fun of people or try to hurt people because you're in such a bad place saying that you guys suck at this podcast is a little endorsement hit for that person for a nanosecond to feel better about how bad they feel about themselves? All they're doing is tearing you down. They're just misery loves company you.

I swear to God, every single negative post that I see about me or in the comments, I literally, my brain fundamentally only says, man, I hope that person's gonna be okay one day. Not one thing about me. That has nothing to do with me. But there's a key to that. I also don't take in when people give me the flowers.

I'm appreciative as fuck. Live for the cheers, die by the booze type of thing. Bro, that shit, if I could, If we could get the kids, fucking forget the kids. Everyone who's watching this, every grown up to understand, if you become susceptible to the fucking cheering, you're dead because the booing will kill you.

I'm grateful for when people leave goat emojis. I'm fucking, I wish you could see what I felt like with your opening line on the show. It's like, thank you. It's so nice, but I don't think I'm special because you said it, which means I don't think I'm a piece of shit when you say the return.

I know who I am. The end. And unless you really, really, really, really know me, how the fuck can I even count it? Do you do you mean famous people that are universally adored are straight pieces of shit? Probably a lot.

Yeah, you always hear the stories you never want to meet your heroes. Right. It's real talk. It sucks. I mean, like, currently right this second, universally adored. They're the best.

No, they're not. They sure aren't. They do not treat their people. people well. Everybody that's close to them does not love them. I can go to sleep every night and put my head on a pillow because the more you know me, the more you like me, those are the results I see. Ladies and gentlemen, we interrupt this episode to bring you cars.com. Cars.com is the leading digital marketplace that connects car shoppers with their perfect car, celebrating 25 years of helping shoppers research, find inventory, finance, and sell cars wherever life takes you next. And whoever you're looking to be,

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how many people would you say really truly know who Gary V is? Zero. And let me break down where I was going with that. That's a context one. If you said that, hey, we're clipping that just so we can get the context. And then we'll have you come on again to explain that. Gary Vee about how close he is with this family.

Zero. I'm obviously going tongue-a-chee because I wanted to make two points. So they answered your question on that one, the way you actually asked it, probably 100. Yeah. Like if I'm going to like where I'm really going,

like would you bet your, like if they went to someone in that, if they went to Brandon Warnocky, my best friend who I've known since 14, and talk to every day and still runs WineTech.com. Like if they said,

bet your life on him, he would. Yeah. Like 100, right? 70 to 100. I'm very fortunate. Like, I always judge leaders of business

on the longevity of their team. We took a flight out here, a lot of the Vayner people. We've been in business for 14 years, 7, 10, 12 people that have been with the company for 10 in advertising that, has an average of two.

Like, that feels great. When I look, I'm like, man, I'm so proud of that. That's only a reflection of how much I actually care about them. So I would say 100 to the way you asked it. The reason I said zero was I wanted to make a point that I'm curious to ask you to. The thing that I'm most fascinated by is that the only person on earth that fully knows you is you.

Because you're the only person that's been there for every single actual thing. Everybody can watch this and you too as well. there's certain things that nobody on earth knows about you beside you. I think that's fascinating and I've been thinking a lot about it, which is why I wanted to throw out that fun answer. It's interesting. Yeah, you say the great point.

Like Taylor and I, we have this saying like nobody's coming to save you. Like, you know, if you think about it, you're the only one who lays your head on your pillow and I, no matter who's next to you with whatever stresses you have in your mind. And ultimately it is just truly you and you, like that one player game of you knowing yourself. Oh, in such a real way. One of the things that drives me is I feel a little bit of guilt of how lucky I got with my DNA, how lucky I got that I was born in a shit country and came to America with nothing

and had a really humble beginning because I think it's advantage, adversity's foundation of success, I believe that. And then on top of everything else, with those two good things already going for me, fucking the world gave me the best mom of all time that fucking molded and built me, I feel a level of guilt about it. I believe that Gary Vee exists because of that guilt. and gratitude.

It's a mix of those too. All I do is try to figure out how to do what my mom did for me. All I want to do with my content is build true self-esteem, not eighth-place trophy self-esteem, which is actually leading to a lot of insecurity, merit self-esteem.

And a lot of that led to me with me. I like myself. Most people don't. And it shouldn't be like that. Everyone watching should like themselves. They're just focusing on the wrong things. Right.

Parents are beating themselves up every day. Parents are trying. Of course you're not going to be perfect. There's not a soul on earth that becomes a grown-up that doesn't have plenty of things to say about their parents. It's the rules, no matter how hard you try. You had a unique conversation,

I believe it was a TED Talk type of situation where you're talking about like work-life balance is almost not existent, but just if you're trying in all phases, you're phenomenal. I think so. What's work-life balance? Everyone has their own rules.

Like I have friends that think work-life balance is nine to five Monday through Friday. Okay. Like, I have other friends that think it's nine to seven Monday through Friday. Okay. I have other friends that think it's nine to nine Monday through Saturday. Okay.

Like, as long as the people in your circle are cool with it, like there's all sorts of, there's a cost to everything. There's just real-life circumstances. Like, the big thing that I focus on is when I talk about shit, I'm not trying to tell everyone, that I'm right about what I'm talking about.

I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm trying to share observations with the hope that it helps someone. That's a very different framework. I don't think the thing I talk about is applicable to everyone. That's insane. I just think that I love observing

and have been doing it for a long time. I don't even talk from my framework. Most of the stuff that comes out of my mouth is not just me, it's what I've lived in combination, to what I've observed for the last 30 years because that's what I do for a living. I pay attention for a living.

That's why I have an advertising firm. I'm interested in the collective, but that will never be the reflection of an individual. Gen Z, with people like, Gen Z, son. I'm like, are you a fucking idiot? Do you know many Gen Z kids I know right now are grinding their asses off and have incredible work ethic?

And do you know how many lazy boomers I know? to just blanket paint these observations is wild. Are there rationales to why there's general statements? Sure. Are those things sometimes like pretty close to nons? Sure. Like I get it. But like nothing is directly one by one.

Right. That goes to one on one. You with you. Only you know. And you have to make yourself happy because you can't make anyone else happy unless you're happy. That's real. I love it.

I know. We're getting the spinning wheel of death in the back there. So come on, Brian. We're going to overtime. Can we go into overtime? You hit yours. I have another Gary, too, that I think would be a lot of fun. What's that? I said, no, he was talking about you.

Oh, no, you go ahead. I said, I also have one. I was wanting to get into, okay, you have VaynerSports media. Yes. You have your agency. Yes. NIL. Yes.

Getting into that, like you obviously represent, or your company represents professional athletes. The Vayner Sports has plenty of NIL and pro athletes. Yes. into the world of college. I just got off the phone this morning with a college coach. It's like, man, you know, there's always a new thing of like how the NIL is just out of control. He's like, bro, I'm telling you, every player in the end of year meetings sat, they gave a number and said if they don't get that number, they're going to get the world because they all have representation. I love it. What is your thought on the NIL world? Love. Here's why, not because I'm in the

NIL business. That's called capitalism. I love all my capitalistic friends. I've got such a fun answer for this. Ready? My life, because I'm in the business. Unlimited entrepreneurs, unlimited dinner and drinks with very well-to-do individuals who love their universities and are boosters to the universities,

complaining about NIL. Unlimited. I'm like, let me get this right. You are a real estate mogul. You had a free capitalistic American market to make money, and you loved it. You have benefited from, being able to have the market be an open market.

And now you're going to sit here and tell me that you like communism? What do I think about NAL? I think it's fair. I think the University of Alabama made a fuckload of money over the last 20 years. And do I think that the humans that directly impacted that

are entitled to an opportunity to be a piece of the action? I sure do. Because I love capitalism. and for every hypocrite that is into entrepreneurship and capitalism and fucking alpha this and winning and competition,

you better shut your fucking mouth about NIL because you are a fucking hypocrite if you don't like it, oh you mean you don't like that you liked it in the past because your college was good and these new rules may reset the deck that I understand. You're a diehard UT fan and you're sad

or you're a diehard noted, like I get it. Nebraska. I get it. I see it. I'm going for some razzies stuff. I'm trying to get some emotions. It worked.

You know, like, yeah, man. I think it's, what do I think about it? I think it's fair. I love it. And people that are crying about it, fucking buckle up. I love the answer. I love that. Now put yourself on the board of looking at the structure compared to like, you look at

the professional market in the NFL contracts and everything else. The college world is more of just anybody can leave at any point in time. If you're on the, if you're sitting on the other end of the table, that board, what would be your opinion about it? Let's push for contracts. You know what the best part about merit is? You can adjust. Notice how they're not running fast to contracts.

Why? It works for them too. That's a great point. He gave me the look, too, so it's almost like, Oh, 2024. Yeah, that sounds like that was a bangor point. If you don't like NIL, you hate America and you hate capital.

Go fuck yourself. By the way, by the way, and pretty non-debatable. I can't wait for the rebuttal to why not. It's either merit and capitalism or it's not. Hey, bro, that's, I mean... It's just binary. Yeah, yeah. Because I was always sat there.

I was like, you know, maybe some rules and regulations would be great. Literally it took this conversation. It was 100% right? I think of myself, I'm like, yeah, they do have to get it figured out because it is kind of a wild west. That's a wild west out there. It's the Wild West like every other business on earth. Because you're thinking about as football.

as football players, we look it as like, when we went to school, there's no and I'm like, there's got to be a sense of loyalty. These kids nowadays are both so soft. You have the kind of mentality. All it takes is one guy with a 30 second answer. And you're like, well, fuck, he, yeah. And let me, we're resumed.

Hey, with the little nod and a smile and the. Let me give me something. Let me give you a little something on top of it that you guys are going to like. Because you've met the OGs. You're doing that. And I get why you're doing that. What about the Hall of Fame offensive linemen?

who played an entire career and made less money than the seventh offensive lineman of every team in the NFL right now. Which is a great point because we had it. So we head on. Also, the economy was worse than. Yeah. You get out of here. You got a hamburger. You got a lot of it.

You're ready? Ready for this? Run the inflation numbers. Y'all did better. You're right. I see what's going on here. Medium of the house income now. It's like 270% in the last 30 years, though.

Yeah. Because we've sat with. we've had Ed McCaffrey on Marshall Falk. We had an older interview with Mike Allstott, and it's like they walk out of the room and you're like, man, we are in our world and the whole alpha, it's like, you know, we are so much softer

than what that generation was based on the things that we were doing out. And their granddaddies literally were playing at college football and then an hour later had to go to Germany and die. Like, I don't understand how people don't have history lessons. It's so funny. You see it even when I was playing. Gary, even.

I love it. We got Gary D. History lessons. Did anyone take history in fucking high school? What the fuck? Next time Gary comes in the show we need to put a camera behind you

so we had us look at it. I need more cameras like that. All right, now my team's yelling. I'm gonna get the fuck out of here, but I'm rooting for you guys heavy. Congrats. By the way, real flowers,

I also love your audience. I read comments for a living. The way your audience love y'all, the demo and just the vibe of this whole thing, it's real good. I'm so glad. glad we did this. Thank you.

Dude, thank you so much. This was an honor, man. Pleasure. This was a fun. Thank you. All the time. Thank you. Love you guys.

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