Bussin' With The Boys - Greg Olsen On Tom Brady Drama, Coaching W/ Luke Kuechly & Being A Full-Time Dad | Bussin'

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

Greg Olsen hops back on the bus for another incredible episode with the boys. From coaching his kids and navigating the wild world of youth sports, to teaming up with Luke Kuechly on the middle school football sidelines, Greg shares hilarious and honest stories about parenting, competition, and dealing with tough parents. He opens up about his broadcasting journey, Tom Brady taking his spot, and whether he'd want his kids to play at "The U." We also get some Cam Newton love, a Bud Light hypothetical, and Greg throws some classic shade at Will. A must-watch for dads, fans, and anyone who grew up in a competitive household. HOWEVER, before the interview we get a full breakdown of Taylor's nightmare travel back from Canada and dive into Donald Trump wanting the Commanders to switch back to the Redskins, Dustin Poirier's final fight, NFLPA drama, and Shemar Stewart's situation with the Bengals. Have a day boys and enjoy this pod! 0:00 Intro2:00 Sherm Forgot To Record9:00 Taylor's Nightmare Trip Back To America28:15 Donald Trump vs Commanders36:36 Shemar Stewart Bengals Holdout41:00 Will Levis Injuries51:00 UFC 318 RECAP1:00:43 NFLPA Scandal1:12:06 GREG OLSEN INTERVIEW STARTS1:12:50 Greg’s Thoughts Of The Shop1:15:20 Coaching His Kids & Managing Expectations1:23:31 High School Sports Are Not What They Used To Be1:35:00 Playing For His Dad1:39:15 Coaching With Luke Kuechly 1:54:09 Dealing With Karen's2:05:40 Pushing His Kids Towards The U?2:15:01 Getting Your Kids Into Sports2:21:15 Tom Brady FOX Sports Broadcasting Drama2:26:42 BUD LIGHT QUESTION2:30:07 Cam Newton Gave Everything He Had Everyday2:34:00 When Greg Talked Shit On Will   SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS FanDuel - Sign Up for FanDuel: fanduel.com/bussin Check out FanDuel Promos: https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/promotions Must be 21+ and present in select states (for Kansas, in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino) or 18+ and present in D.C. First online real money wager only. $10 first deposit required. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire 7 days after receipt. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat in Connecticut, or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit GamblingHelpLineMA.org or call [phone] for 24/7 support in Massachusetts or call 1- 877-8HOPE-NY or text HOPENY in New York. Dude Wipes: For the Best Clean, Pants Down: use DUDE WIPES! Head to DUDEWipes.com or find them at Amazon, Walmart and other Major Retailers. Phorm Energy: Zero Sugar. Natural Caffeine from Green Tea. Mental Focus. Learn more at https://www.phormenergy.com/ NUTRL: Real Vodka. Real Juice. Real Tasty. Find NÜTRL near you at https://nutrlusa.com/find-product LUCY: Level up your nicotine routine with LUCY Nicotine: visit www.LUCY.co/BUSSIN and use promo code BUSSIN to get 20% off your first order. WARNING: This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Bud Light: Easy to Drink. Easy to Enjoy. Stock up now on Bud Light! https://www.instacart.com/store/brands/bud-light?ic_source=BWTB&ic_campaignid=2025 NotesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Bro. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Bustin with the Boys. This is episode 338. Before we start, are we recording. We are recording. We're 100% recording. 100% recording.

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Okay. Yeah, yeah, we're recording. Okay, all right, good. Thank God. Thank God. It's been a long day for your boy. It's been, I got up at 4 a.m. this morning, Pacific time out in B.C. We'll jump into all that. As always, Bustle with the Boys is presented by Fandall Sportsbook. Fandul is America's number one sportsbook.

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Let it be known that Will's side of the story is my side of the story as well. Okay. What's your side of the story? We're looking for true transparency in this moment. Listen, sunglasses coming off. Wow. We're going to look at them down the barrel. You have one job when you're working at a production company.

And you were recording talents such as Taylor and Will. There's one job. It's to get that. out to the public. It's to publish it on the internet. Yeah. What is the one thing that you have to do in order to publish that on the internet? You got to take a little one.

Press record. Have to press record. Got to press record. If you don't press record, nothing's going on the internet. Really? I hate to break it to you, but that is the truth. So if this is a company that lives in the internet and that's how we make money, pay for salaries, feed our families, we have to press the button in order for the

beautiful people that watch this show to be able to watch the show and then we monetize on that and then we monetize on it the kick in the gut is not realizing that not just oh maybe five minutes in we got redo the intro oh maybe 20 minutes in oh that kind of hurts but we can do it 57 minutes into the podcast wow holy hey hats coming off and I'm looking down the barrel I'm looking at the people at home. I don't know if I can, I want to look away, but I just can't right now. They have a car accident on the side of the road, 57 minutes. 57 minutes. And can I tell you something? Please. Your and Will's story is not the same. Oh, really? He said 45 minutes.

Oh, that was before we told him, no, it was actually 57 minutes. Okay. Okay. Yeah. His anger was probably going to be the same based on that 12 minutes. Oh, yeah. But my God. Yeah, dude. And honestly, it was to really break it down, like being in production, long as I have been. That is like, that's your first day on the job type of mistake. So it was so, such a gut punch that we truly sat there for around 15 minutes in silence.

Yeah, but that's part of Will story as well. It was tough. And then to brag on Will, this is not to get points, but to truly brag on Will. Can I just butt in real quick? Please.

Probably not the time, right? Oh, yeah, not the time. But I have to. Okay. I'm drowning. All right. You're drowning, but sometimes you just got to let the bubbles go, you know? Yeah, true.

You got to sink to the bottom. Sometimes you have to wait to the bubble stop, man, and be like, hey, reset. You sink to the bottom, you let your feet touch. That's when you can push off. That's when you can kick back down. Okay. So you're in a pool because I'm thinking of you in the ocean right now. Or the ocean, yeah.

Okay. But what were going to say about Will? Yeah, you just, he handled it very, very well. Because that podcast could have absolutely tanked with us having to re-record it. He swallowed the anger. He swallowed the frustration and said, we got to record a podcast here and put on an Academy Award winning performance

of I'm not mad at Sherman. Let's get this episode done. So kudos to him and great learning lesson. One of the hardest things in podcasts. I don't think we've really ever done on this show, but it's when you do something and somebody messes up and they go, hey, we're going to do this again. And then you have to recreate the energy you had

when you were first delivering the first thing, you were actually feeling it together. Yes. It's a horrible feeling. It was to do it once or like 10, 15 seconds worth, like a minute worth. Yes. And rough, but 57.

And I'm dressed up like an asshole because it was episode 007. So I said, oh, 007, that's fun. I'll wear a tuxedo. Yeah. Did he know you're going to wear that? I texted him asking him to wear a tuxedo as well, and he did not show up in a tuxedo.

Yeah, yeah, that sounds like Will. That sounds like Will. Did he even respond to the tuxedo text? Zero response to the tuxedo tax. That is also very well. On the first go-round of the recording of the episode, he, you know, check out this asshole to open up the podcast, which was funny, tongue and cheek, because I'm in a tuxedo.

Second time around, as he has swallowed all of his anger, he goes, Welcome for the dad's episode zero-zero-seven. Sherman's wearing a fucking tuxedo. And just a hard cut to me just melting in the chair. hurting on the inside. It was bad. Yeah, that's tough, man. It's like a step brother scene,

but it's like, hey, you know, Tuxio's seem kind of fucked up now, right? That might be the exact situation where you're like, God damn it, that hurts. It was so bad. Yeah. It was so bad. Can you do me a favor?

I'm going to, obviously, our boy will come that he's in Calgary right now. He's in BAMF. I have a whole story about my time in Calgary earlier today. While I'm doing that, could you please go on chat GBT and ask Chad GPD as a business owner, how they would handle, explain to them situation. And then as chat, how they would handle what you did as a boss and they were to compare and contrast what will did for you all right and see what you wouldn't you like better AI or will okay absolutely okay maybe a little homework during the show a little homework during the show I'll do that and I'll revisit it at the end up I'll tab it I'll save it and so when we're closing out we can end up Bing I love it dude so I'm for the people to look forward to before they get into this Greg Olson podcast that's wonderful let's talk about Canada boys now I was here two weeks ago a week ago a week ago

Something like that. Flew in. We did some big stuff. We couldn't say it in a nationwide fan do commercial. It was unbelievable. It was so much fun to do that. I fly back to Canada and I have a great time. Now, my wife, every single time, we go to Canada.

First off, it's so difficult to get her there because she's got, she's got her garden. She's got her goat. She's got her bees. She's now, she's just doing a whole bunch of stuff all the time at the house. She's always worried about leaving because when she leaves, what something always goes wrong. So it's hard to get her to go to Canada. But once I get her to Canada, she's just going to Canada. Canada, it's very difficult to get her to come back to America because she loves being with her

friends. She has nostalgia. Every corner we turn. She's like, oh, yeah, we used to pick cherries over then. I don't know why she's an English accent, but you get what I'm trying to say. She rips, dude. She loves it over there. She loves having a great time in Canada. But this time, I think it's like the first time in a long time that when we said we were going to come back, we came back, all of us together. Usually, like, I just go back. They spend another week, whatever. We fly back. So last night yesterday was my youngest daughter her fifth birthday let's give willow round of applause she turned five while i've been gone my oldest daughter win turned eight and willow turn five let's do one more round of applause for my beautiful kids amazing so maybe one more round of applause applause for somebody

who's birthday is today as you're listening to this episode stop round of applause for and comments for taylor luan happy birthday ah thank you that's very nice fie p That is very nice. I say, dude, Luan birthday extravaganza month. That's what July is. It's a great month, a fantastic month. So yesterday, we have an amazing day.

My 5-year-old, she wakes up in the morning. She has the same rules every time. Don't come out of the room until we say you can't, but you can let us know you're awake. Now, when we go to Canada, we stay in my mother-in-law's apartment. We've done for like five years, where it's literally a two-bedroom,

like 1,200 square foot apartment, me and my wife, both of our kids, and Ms. Tanna. And we stay in there. And it is awesome. We sleep with the ground sometimes. When we have a bed, the kids now have bunk beds that's next to a bed that my wife and I sleep in. Not a whole long time to have some alone time, if you know what I'm saying. However, it's a lot of fun, a lot of family fun.

We wake up in the morning. She's excited. It's like 5.36 in the morning. She can't wait. She can't wait. Taylor and I kind of give her the struggle like sweetheart. Congratulations. Your five, but like let's get another 15, 20, right?

Go and sit there. To a kid, to a five-year-old, that is six hours. that every minute is like days for those poor kids. So we finally get out. We have a little streamers up. She's got her balloons. There's a whole bunch. There's a big five kids.

She's still in the, I love balloons. Balloons might be the best part of my birthday. It's everything. We open up some presents. And then we go down to Ktown, better known as Colono. We go shopping.

We rip around. She goes in the store. Daddy, can I have this? Daddy can have that. And I'm like Oprah Winfrew of my damn credit card. Dude, I'm like, yeah, you can have that. You want that? Go ahead.

Get it. Yes, absolutely. Because what you don't know about. about me since I don't talk about my family a whole lot is my kids don't get a whole lot from me. They got enough stuff. And I try to tell them that all the time, listen, we're doing good in our family, okay? We're doing good. We're doing better than a lot of people.

And you guys need to understand that so you can't have X, Y, and Z. But she got this good for her, be happy for her. We're not going to always get this. So for them to kind of get whatever they wanted was a hell of a day for them. Go over to Talen's grandparents' house, their great grandparents' house. And we have this awesome party. there's a little there's a little bit blow a bouncy house all the kids from the neighborhood are ripping and coming over tail and's friends they all have kids around the same age it's amazing but sun doesn't set in canada until 11 p.m. and the sun's starting to set and I'm looking around I'm like hey what time is it and they're like 10 am I what what time do we board tomorrow 6.20 a.m. for an international flight okay so we hustle those kids in I'm still trying to be the happy dad hey congratulations your

five but at the same time I'm turning their little asses along like we got to fucking go all right need my sleep I don't get my sleep grumpy boy that's kind of how my equation works so get the kids in they don't go to sleep anytime soon we're packing we didn't even pack is that a spoiler for you jack i wasn't prepared for the day right wasn't prepared for the day that's kind of packing this morning in five no no no we packed we packed last night but usually adults like true adults not me and my wife would be like hey we'll leave it in a couple days let's start to put some stuff together maybe fold a couple things you know what we're going to do leave out a couple of outfits not us dude not us i'm under the bed scraping for shit going around and then i just randomly take a break

start petting the cat and tailing does shit for 20 minutes bless her heart doesn't say shit about it yeah yeah bless her heart didn't say shit so she's like low key i will tell you we do get a bit of an argument but not like a real argument like who won what who won oh let me explain the situation You can tell me who won. Because I do low-key think I won, but I'll explain how I won. So, like, as we're getting these kids packed in, like packed together. And it's like, all right, these kids got to go to bed. And my wife and Ms. Tanner are doing like the Spider-Man.

Like, who's putting these kids in nine-night? Right? Taylor's like, hey, if you put them nine-night, I'll finish packing. And I was like, okay, if I put them in the bed, I'll just go to bed right now. I'll just go to bed right now with them. So one of us is a little more juice. I hear. yes that's a great idea Taylor apparently that's not what she said okay it's not what she said so

they brush their teeth I brush my teeth I get the mouth tape I put it on and I put the kids asleep and I give them the whole been a great day it's time to go to bed but we want to do five minutes of this we want to do five minutes that politely I told them fuck no that's not happening politely but at this point it's like 11 15 now so I'm having a hard time I start laying in the bed mouth tape goes on. I put the little meditation music on for the kids so we can all have a nice little sleep. What do I wake up to?

A light beaming in my face. And she goes, hey, I said we're going to put the kids down. We're going to put the stuff into car. That way we can just get up in the morning and do it so we can all sleep longer. And I,

so right then and there, I've already kind of giving the equation of me. Not a whole lot of sleep. Grumpy boy. It's kind of a one plus one equals two type of thing. In my like days, waking up, which never happens. Anytime you wake me up and sleep, I'm pissed off.

If you wake me up in the middle of night, you're like, Taylor, I don't know why any of you would be sleeping next to me, but Taylor, I think somebody's in the house. I'd be like, dude, shut the fuck up. Like, they're fine. Let them kill us. Let's get some sleep. That's kind of like my vibe when it's like midnight, whatever. So Taylor gets me up.

And by the grace of God, my brain didn't trigger to, we're throwing hands. and went to let me be as quiet as possible, mad quiet, and get these fucking bags in the car as fast as possible. I walk outside, Miss Tanna being the sweet queen she is. She's like, oh, Taylor, it's all right, I'll do it.

I'm thinking, probably shouldn't have woke me up then, right? I grabbed the shit anyway. I walk the shit, dude, and I'm in just underwear. Do you want to put shorts on? No, I don't even say, no. I just grab the stuff.

I'm walking down the hallway in just my underwear. No tube sock like I usually have. It's just all by itself. Well, yeah, but I'm also My piece shirm Anyway, so I'm walking I throw the shit in the trunk Walk back and then I was like

Is that everything? Like well we're gonna get We're gonna keep these here In case we forgot a couple things It's like nope, went put them in the car Get back and like we're good Like yeah I don't say a word to anybody I go back and I go back to the bed

Put my mouth tape on As my wife's like walking in the room Put my mouth tape on and I fucking Go to sleep So did I win that argument? That's the question. I feel like the answer is yes. Maybe you did, but at what cost?

Woke up this morning. Actually, the family was got a vibe in this morning. So I think it's what we needed because it easily could have been a blow up that I don't know if anybody's ever gone to bed mad in a relationship. We all have. We all promise we won't, but we do.

But we absolutely do. There's nothing worse than fucking going toes or somebody be like, you know what, fuck this. I'll see you in the morning. Because you're fuming for the next 30 minutes. You're not even really sleeping. You're just quiet. And then you think to yourself, they might think I'm not asleep.

So I'm going to breathe heavier as if I'm going to sleep. I get petty as hell sometimes. But there's also nothing sneaky better than when you're like in the situation that you're in. And how you did everything. You packed up everything. Everybody else was feeling like, dang, Taylor is doing it all. And they know you're doing it out of spite. Yeah.

And there's a, the bad part of inside of you is like, good. I'm glad they all know that I'm doing this. and I'm glad they know I'm pissed off. And they're not going to get an answer until the morning. Yes, and they're not. They're going to have to wonder when they go to sleep. I hope he's better when these six hours go by and he's up at 4 a.m. or 5 hours.

Now, Tailen did most of the packing, I will say. Okay, Tailen did. We'll go with the 70%. Story. Yeah. No, no, no. I said she was doing. I even said I took a break.

I took a break. I took a break. We got to listen to the whole story. I did take a break to pet the cat. But yeah, dude, woke up this morning. randomly. What happened? Earlier when you were talking about the cat, you were like,

yeah, then I like randomly started petting the cat. Dude, for real, I saw the cat. I'm like, let me just get my hands. Like, my brain was like, this is a huge opportune time while everyone's like trying to pack for me to pick up this cat and go sit on the couch. And then my wife would walk in and I'd feel like the guilt. I'd go, babe, look, he's cuddling.

Babe, check it out. She said, oh, it's sweet. That's nice. And you could just tell her, and she's like, this motherfucker just being an idiot. Look you though Now I'm happy I pet that cat After getting woken up like that

Yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah pat my suitcase dude Pat my suitcase and I went and got the dirty laundry And I was like oh what do you know it It's all my clothes And like one pair of biker one wins biker shorts So yeah I did a couple things And I also cleaned up the little party

It's not important dude people are not that Interested in the fine details of my story Because it's my truth The morning 415 wake up We gotta be out the door at 430 All right Willow by young

wakes up like a goddess like a goddess like a little angel pops up i'm ready i can't wait for the day when exact opposite sweet girl wonderful girl just had a really hard time but i'm like get the fuck in the car dude we got we got a we got a roll we get in first flight from clona to calgary wonderful not even a bump on the flight it was one of those we kind of just like sit chill play 2048 and rip and it was nothing to me land tail's like hey we have global entry you should just rip because i don't know how customs are going to be and i had it with a sweetie i've been in this airport a hundred times like it's not going to be a big deal i turn the corner to start going to customs lines out the door my flight takes off in an hour and a half and the lady

there's a lady walking by and goes um if you guys are it's a two hour wait so if your flight leaves in less than two hours you're probably going to miss your flight i'm thinking the same thing as everybody else what about my flight right you just think about me me me me me and i think and with sucks for me as some dude turned around he's like hey for the boys bump me so now i can't i can't get emotional right now because he's going to tell the story about how taylor lost his shit on the poor lady who's just trying to give the information so i'm like all right whatever hanging out lady right behind me is like excuse me i'm on the national flight but well she goes that's between you and the flight you make it or you don't and i'm thinking to myself that sucks that really sucks for all

of us but you got kind of sun just now dinky sweetheart But he turns around, he's starting to talk to me. So I'm kind of getting a little like, oh, fuck, dude. I got to sit in two hours with this guy just talking to me. We're both gen pop boarding. And then all of a sudden, one of the guys walks over and goes, American passport. And he's like, yeah, American passport. And he goes, you go this way.

And I'm like, oh, we're about to go. And I go to walk with him. Guy hits me with the, he goes, all good here. I go, oh, no, I got a American passport too. He goes, no, you just wait in this line. And the dude looks back. Dude looks back does this. Shrugged me.

Not a disrespectful shrug, but a shrug nonetheless. So Taylor is Canadian. Yeah. Oh, no. I'm not going to sit here and tell you guys my truth. Oh, if this to happen. My American boys coming at me right now? The passport didn't work.

Damn, dude. Anyway, I'm going to let that one roll off the back. It's been a long day. Would it have been more disrespectful if that guy just walked off without giving you the shrug? Like, just been like, you literally didn't mean anything to me, actually. Right. Like the shrug probably feels-

Looks back goes, I'm not even actually subscribed and just keeps going. I'm actually a part of my take, fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would, uh,

yeah, I guess no shrug, like he would just forgot me in the wind, like I was nothing to him. That would have been tough. That would have been really hard. I stand in line.

I'm about halfway through this line. This girl, and I'm, this is not saying, what kind of, I'm not trying to say anything. I'm just talking about the, like, this is her,

this is her look. Purple hair, nose ring, tattoo. right behind me. She, this chick, almost said a different word, this chick thinks we're in

rush hour traffic where she's just going to take her vehicle, her body, and go around mine at some point. Her body, her rights. Her body, exactly. You know, you're doing the weave on the line. You're doing the weave back and forth.

You're sing that thing. And some people like to go around the wide way. I'm realizing quickly, I got to take the short fucking corners and catch the inside before we keep moving. because this chick's kind of like feeling me out.

Like she's shoulder to shoulder me at some points. And I'm thinking, do I have to say something to this girl? But I don't want to get Karened. Not judging a book by its cover. Not judging her books by its cover. But I thought to myself, I might get got. You know, I might get got. She doesn't have, she doesn't have headphones in.

She pulls at her phone. And she goes, hello? Oh yeah, you're right there. I see you. I look back, dude. This is a true fucking story. I said look back. Her phone's like this.

No. She's why I see me. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be right there. I'll be right there. Gives me a little shoulder. Dude, I'll show you again. Gives me one of these. Oh, sorry.

And kept going. Dips under the thing. And people will be kind of giving her like the, the what the fuck palms up. And what are we doing? What are we doing? She just dips and just goes, sorry. She's right there.

She's right there. Gets to the front of the line where some dude is like, oh, dad and she's like here's my boarding pass and he's like oh all right and he she's like too far of me before i even saw the conversation like could hear the conversation but respectfully fuck that bitch that was one of the nastier things i've ever seen done all time scumbag all time all time that that that's literally probably four episodes of curvy your enthusiasm your whole trip yeah yeah no shit no shit i got one more two

too. So I get through the, I'm going through the security line and then they have to go through the customs line. But I get to the security line and I'm at the point where it's like it converges. The priority people, the Gen Pop people, the Nexus people, everybody in between. We're converging on this one line. There's one guy who's just getting started by a bunch of angry faces. He's doing the, he's doing the, all right, yep, okay, all right. Okay. I get here. I get here. He goes, boob, hits me. I need you to stop right there. And it's, Now he's not being rude, but I'm thinking, dude, come on.

He goes, you with them? I go, no, he goes, all right. And then does the whole, you guys over here, you guys start going. A lady, I don't know why it's the ladies. An older woman, probably in her 50s, gives me a disrespectful shrug. A smirk.

She walks by and she goes, because it was kind of, I did the whole like half, I was like half a step in when he touched my chest. And then she sees that happen. She kind of gives me the, ooh, sorry. Wouldn't want to be you. Sorry.

So I finally get through security. I rip, boom, boom, boom. Put my shit up. Don't take your shoes off. I'm like, that's so fucking dumb. Can't wait until Trump changes that. I heard he was going to do that. I put my shit in the security thing.

It goes through the little security thing. And I get through. I start briskly power walking to the custom section. I get through a weave, one weave, one turn. And wouldn't you know it as I'm about to hit my second turn so I'm facing security? Same lady. The 55 year old who gave me the shrub. she's turning the corner

because her shit got stopped she catches eyes with me and I go yes I hit her with that sucks doesn't it and I made my fucking flight dude so round applause for

making my flight that's it that's my day they got left behind no I'm just kidding you said fuck them gotta go no this is where

once again Taylor's a true adult. Talen has global entry and so do both of my kids. They got a burger. They hung out. They got snacks. Taylor calls me every tenets like, you think you're going to make it. You think you're going to make it? They end up holding the flight for me and literally everybody else

in customs. Me and this Czechoslovakian guy, he and I were talking. He's like, I can't do the accent, but he's like, I love Nashville. He's like, I love Nashville. We started talking about Nashville for a minute. So, yeah, dude, it worked out. It was good. But also, fuck that girl with the purple hair in the nose ring.

forever unacceptable forever and once again for those you getting triggered I'm just explaining her appearance I'm not trying to say anything at all yeah that's it yeah that's it

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Not the best area of town. Not the worst. I've seen worse, but definitely not the best area of town. All right. UFC 3. You know what? UFC 318. Great car.

amazing. Poir-H Holloway, went down to the wire, just like we all kind of saw going to happen. I do want to talk about Donald Trump. Just for a moment. And this is not like a political stance. I know a lot of people call us the MAGA podcast.

I just want to just comment on the fact that he's basically threatening an NFL team and giving them restrictions if they don't change your name back to the Washington Redskins. That is, without a doubt, just funny. That is objectively funny. everything else well the this isn't that and he's a bad don't care that is funny that he's just like we're gonna fuck your shit up if you don't change it back to the redskins this is not three or

four years ago we're ripping common sense whatever your stances whatever your stances on the redskins here's my stance uniforms and logo goes hard a lot of history there all right if they want to bring it back she would be sweet shit would be sweet that's my stance. Now, am I Native American? According to my 23 and me, I do have a little sprinkle. But according to the poncho, you are a Native American.

Yeah, dude, I am Native American. And also, this photo that I hope Sherman puts up, uh, for those of you watching on YouTube, we could tell Trump hasn't played a whole lot of ball in his life, right? We could tell by that stance, everything, probably hasn't played a whole lot of ball.

Especially when he calls it, the Washington Redskins football team. He's mixing both names and putting it together. It's objectively funny. Onward. JP. How do you feel about it? Initially, when the Redskins got their name taking the first time, I was like, this is stupid. And then, and I hated the Washington football team. It was my least favorite name of any NFL football team of all time. Once week 12 hit, I said, this might be the greatest football team name of all time. Really? Why? I have no idea. I just love the basics of it and like how different it was from everyone else. And it's just hilarious, the Washington football team.

Who do you play for? The Washington football team. Which one? Exactly. And so I think that they should go back to the Washington football team, ditch the commanders, ditch the Redskins. Washington football team for life is my vote. Yeah. So right now, one vote to the Redskins, one vote to the Washington football team.

One vote to the Redskins because I believe the actual native tribe that is native to the Washington, Virginia area. has already come out and said that they want it to be changed back to the Redskins. Don't quote me, but quote me, I believe that they truly have come out and we're like, we took great pride in that. So I'll give my vote to that. Okay, I like that. I like that a lot.

I'm fully Redskins, tradition, honor. I'm with it. I don't hate your take. I like your stance on it. It's from the perspective of the jerseys and the logo. It looks so clean with those uniforms. If there was, yeah, if there was an issue with some native tribe that was, you know, took offense to it, then sure. Like, I understand that.

But if there is like a local Washington chapter of Native Americans, they're like, this is our history. We love that. Why are we, why is it probably a bunch of white people going and saying we have to take it? And I'm glad you brought that up. Whites are the problem in America. You guys are the issue. You guys, you people. We're trying to get better.

clubb whitey uh my stance on it is whatever will compton decides i think we go with as former washington redskey take it out of your mouth what do you that is the craziest what do you like what do i like washington redskins that's just like my childhood i feel like i still struggle to call them the commanders it's like i talk about washington it's the redskins so

you got to bring it back the the old school starter jackets washington redskins ones they're they're amazing so They go so hard. They go so hard. They go so hard. And I feel like it'd be a good moneymaker for them, too, because they've already sold all these commander uniforms, boom, boom. And then you rip and go back to Redskins, new names, new identities, new NIL.

Let it go. Oh, I'm getting a word from our producer right now while we're hitting record. After this, we have a special announcement. Yes. Once we are done with Commander versus Redskin talk, there is some break. We do not have to end this talk and go straight into breaking news if we still want to talk Trump But we do have some breaking news daily He's talking to Trump and man you're gonna make me stop talking about Trump huh?

Last thing I'll say I love Washington football team like Utah when they got the expansion team for the hockey the what the Utah hockey club And it just said it just said Utah across the side those uniforms went so hard were they to where are they the yeties now? No Not even they were no they were gonna be the mammoths Oh that's right were the and a little side note our buddy thomas friend of the show he got hired to sing and produce the Utah chance so when they score it was Utah Utah Utah yet is and it's just saying and me my friends went and did background is like crowd noise like we were going to be in oh no way and then they

went back and they changed it so they scrapped the whole thing so no more Utah yet but it would have been sick we got to get that at least once in a game I know Utah stand up I think it might be Utah mammoths now, but I like Utah hockey club and Utah Yeti's over Utah mammoths any day. But those jerseys, their color schemes, phenomenal. Yeah, color scheme's solid. I usually don't go for that like Carolina Blueish. Like, I'm not a Carolina Blue guy. I'm not like a bright color guy.

I like my colors be a little more blended, you know. But yeah, Redskins all the way. And what Trump said was funny. Onward. UFC, oh, nope, special announcement. Special announcement. We talked about it at the beginning of the episode. July is a huge month for several reasons. But I would say maybe the most important reason

is there is a very special birthday if you're listening to this on Tuesday. Can anyone tell us whose birthday it might be? Is it my birthday? Should we tell them in song? Happy birthday. to you happy birthday

you you oh happy birthday dear Taylor this is beautiful happy

birthday to you a steak steak cake a steak cake a steak cake or a steak cake or a red meat king

you know Brock Bowers is so does stay Brock Bowers is sick right now dude good to see you by the way man where's this from lemmix let's take a vibe man first bite at 34

technically if you're watching it is right fun fact I was not a red meat king in Canada your boy went kind of crazy you were a GMO king

yeah I did yeah I was an ultra-processed king Oh, god, here Man, that happens Great to cut Come on Come on Get your ass out here

Look at that Oh Look at that boy A nice little piece of fat on there Come on Come on I know this is not a good take But I like a medium steak

I do I know You listen to that Are you driving to work right now? Mug bang You liking a medium steak Joe Burrow here remembered that you said that in the last episode

with Brock Bauer so we ordered it medium for you. Dude, Joe Burrow! What a dog, ma'am. He's such a dog. One more bite, one more bite. I know we're doing the intro for a show right now. So one more bite, though.

There is a lot of stuff going on in Cincinnati with the Bengals, not necessarily with Joe Burrow, but Shamar Stewart, while you're chewing, I don't know if you heard about this, but that first round draft pick, he still has not signed, and there are reports that he is, or it's confirmed that he's back,

at Texas A&M training. And I guess there's some loophole in the system where if he doesn't sign, he could go back to Texas A&M for another year. Is that real? Yeah. Because NIL, I believe, has now opened up to where these players can be paid for their name image and likeness, it no longer takes you out of amateur status. So if he has not signed with them, he is still considered an amateur and could go back to

college. We're going to talk about what you pronounce that in a second. Dude So he can just go back Dude He could just go back How sick would you be For the Bengals fan right now

And let's say he goes back And he plays And then goes Okay I want to go to the NFL now And the Bengals go Oh okay great Because we drafted them No no no no no

No way He is back in the draft And he has to be redrafted I wonder if the Bengals Get any consumption for that I do No idea Compensation or consumption

Whichever one you want I love that. Gets him. Banging I'm doing it over here, got you thinking, huh? Dude, that is, first of all I think there's a peppercorn steak, pepper in my eye.

That would be fucking nuts. Nuts. He was their first round pick. He's been sitting out. And for those of you don't know, first round picks, it's all slotted. The number is what the number is.

You're not going to get more. You're not going to get less either. There's a tiny small verbiage. I know we talked about this when he was at OTA, told me out but my rookie contract, I didn't sign until like two days

before camp started. And my agent's like, hey, you might have to hold out. I'm thinking, this is the most insane should I've ever heard of my life. Luckily,

I went to camp, but dude, that would be so tough. Because if you've watched quarterback, have you guys watch a new season quarterback? No,

I've seen me watch. I'm not all the way through it yet. But we know how the season, how the season went with the Bengals. And you're watching Joe Burrow, like you're rewatching him just completely light up the NFL and watching other teams

also. score 40 and then they haven't gotten necessarily better from a personnel standpoint at all and you're trying to add this kid to give you that extra kick because you need some defensive players you got troy hendrickson who's a disgruntled employee and you're like all right well we got to find a guy that's really good that can you know from a pass for a standpoint so we can get to the quarterback so these corners aren't dying living out there on the island their whole entire lives if i'm if i'm jill i'm more mad than anybody i the front office the owner everything's be pissed but if you're joe burrow and you have the talent that you do you need a defense around you

and my question is since we're in we're in uncharted waters with the nfl how are you responding to the to this player if he does inevitably sign and comes in for camp what if he comes in week three what if he comes in halfway through camp these guys a rookie he's already going to get hazed a little bit what happens now with these 10 year vets are saying they're being like yo bro go fuck yourself Because even though this is a business, there's still a level of like camaraderie and teamwork and having a teammate and having your boys back. But how are you going to have your boys back

if you're like $10.4 million isn't good enough or the language isn't actually perfect? It's like, brother, I don't want to get corporate, but eventually you got to go out there and ball the fuck out. You got to get it done. And it's like, OTA is like, your contract is guaranteed. Oh, he's signing orders 10. is 10.4 million dollars.

My bad. He's 18.9 million dollar contract. Am I saying that correctly? And that's projected. But yeah. Projected, whatever. You're the 17th overall pick. You get hurt in OTAs.

You don't be there. You're going to be fine. They're going to take care of you. Now, there's three franchises that everyone kind of warns you about when you're going into the draft. The Bengals happen to be one of them. It seems like they're taking a step up when it comes to becoming like a better franchise. But, ma'am.

Tough look. Tough look. What's a tougher look? This? or Will Levis getting a shoulder done? Just a couple of days. And Jack, I'll turn it over to you for two reasons. One, massive Titans fan.

Two, this steak is talking massive shit to me, so I'll have one more bite. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I think that the Will Levis is shocking as it is. It's not that upsetting to me. If anything, it's great news. Because Will Levis didn't do anything for us

this past year. So, and I'm kind of done trying to stick up for him. So why is it being announced now? I think I saw you tweet about this Taylor as well. Why is it being announced now that he has to go miss the entire season?

Did it happen recently? Is it from his last injury? I'm just confused on that aspect of it. But per my tweet, I'm pretty sure I said, I'm sure there's a good story for why he did this late. I'm too done the note right now. And it could be staring us all in the first.

face. Does anybody have an idea of why this would be it? Like his contract's still going to be guaranteed. He's not going to get cut. Like he would be, everyone's thinking Kim Ward's going to be the starter. He will be the backup. I know he wanted to get traded for a minute. But like, just like the doom, they were talking about a kiddle that went in for Greenlaw when he got hurt and then Greenlaw started to come back in the game for the 49ers. He throws a pity party for himself, gets cut the next day. It's like, buddy, you could have made money for another team. There's 30 one of the teams out there looking for you. I do. don't know the logic behind this.

Maybe it was a situation where, hey, shoulders is a little banged up. It doesn't look like you need surgery. Let's give a little TLC. It's going to get better over time. And maybe they just miscalculated situation. That's putting a lot of pressure on the training staff over there. I know the Titans have a great training staff.

I know Todd Torres-Seli just retired, but it's weird, man. It's weird that he's stepping into this being like, yeah, what is it, July 21st? And if you're watching this, July 22nd of my birthday. And it's like, I'm going to, camp starts in three, four days. and you're just going to go and dip out on the team, like something just doesn't give. And I feel like if it is feelings being hurt, which we're only speculating at this point,

that his feelings are hurt, he knows he's not going to be the starter. We had these strong, we were all optimistic and excited about the Will Levis era starting last year. Fast forward, 365. Now we're all disappointed and a little upset with how that whole process turned out. It's okay to have your feelings hurt.

However, zoom out a little bit. Realize, just because you're in Nashville, Tennessee, and it feels like the weight of the world's in your shoulders and all the radio stations are talking about you and how you're this or that, you're a bummy of Jack McPherson on the biggest podcast in the world saying I'm not sticking up for him anymore.

He fucked that guy basically. That's loud right now. That is loud right now. But the farther you get removed and the more ability you have to zoom out of the situation and be like, okay, this team, this fan base is upset with me. Can I logically look at in the mirror? Can I look at myself in the mirror and be like, yes.

I see where I made some mistakes where they probably don't trust me with the football anymore. Yeah, we could probably look at that. We got a little yippy last year. But go to a new place, new coaching staff, new ideas, new morals, new coaching techniques, new way they talk about you. There's a way to work through that. Marcus Marriota was on this podcast talking about how he got the yips where one off season

when he was at Philly, he was sitting there and he couldn't even throw a slant route. And then he got the coaching staff, the GM, go up to him, they nurture him, they love him a little bit. Marcus is now in the league still a backup, but he's one of those guys that came in for Washington last year. and absolutely crushed it. So if this is a situation where Will is doing this because his feelings are hurt and he wants the noise to go away, brother, the noise is only going to get worse. Now, if there's a good reason for it, which I can't see right now, then good for you. I mean, your time was ending as a starter in the NFL, but also, who knows?

Like, you don't know what's going to happen in Cameron worth of the whole season. We saw it happen to Joe Burrow in his first season. We saw it happen to a lot of rookie quarterbacks in their first season. They get hurt. Things happen. So he could have come in the field and made himself some money. Tough look, dude. It's a tough look.

I like him too. I'm a fan of him as a person. So that sucks. But, you know, we're all going to make decisions we're going to make. It doesn't seem like from all the Titans reports out of it. It doesn't seem like the Titans are upset. It doesn't seem like it was a bad blood, like type of situation. And a lot of people I know just in the replies,

are like, this is something that he tried to work on. And it just didn't take enough time. and he actually had to get surgery. And so the Titans seem like there's no love lost, which hopefully that's the case. But only the Titans and Will Levis know. Only the franchise knows and the fan base is going to do what the fan base does, right? They're going to be upset.

They're going to say a whole bunch of things. They're going to be nasty boys on a podcast sometimes. But I will say one thing. Like as a starter, I don't want Will Levis playing for the Titans. As a backup, yeah, I would like him a lot to be behind Cam Ward, give him, you know, any kind of advice or first. year kind of pitfalls to avoid. But we have Brandon Allen and Tim Boyle as our backups.

And that's, that's scary. If Cam Moore goes down. Scary fucking good. So who's your head coach? Yeah, I mean. Who's your head coach? Callie, but. Cali, baby.

And then when Joe Burrow went down when Cali was the quarterback coach, who stepped in? Browning. And what Browning do? Kind of dice the motherfuckers up for a bit, didn't he? Kind of went off a little bit, didn't he? So don't, don't, don't hit? and my boy boiled now. I mean...

Don't hang on boil! Hey. Got my guys out there, Allen and Boyle out there dishing that motherfucker. I hope it just doesn't get to that point, but it does seem like all speculation from I am, but I think Will Levis knew his time was up,

and they maybe gave him the option, hey, you can go get this surgery, and it makes it look like we're not benching you as opposed to you taking an injury. I don't know. That is something that happens. Those conversations take place. Save the ego a little bit.

Who knows? He comes back. It's only ego. They trade them. I don't know. They keep them, but I don't know. It's Cam Ward season. Cam Ward season.

Cam Ward season. Is it too early to look at the schedule? What's your expectation, McPherson? I don't know. It might be too early. I still, I feel like I'm really enjoying these last few weeks of July before. Yeah,

potentially my whole fall is ruined. Like, it can take them. Your fan, yeah, your fandom's in a tough spot with volunteers. From falls and Titans. And Titans.

It's scary. So I'm going to hold off on predictions right now. Okay. But, you know, I could see us win in the AFC for sure. Yeah. What up this episode to bring you? Dude wipes. Are you fumbling the ball when it comes to getting a confident clean back in your zone?

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no i decided hey might want to not not do that bad idea haven't beat him ever it's great it's great for content so i was more pushing it harder than anyone yeah yeah you know how it is this is the game here's the game we're playing see where we're at yeah that was tough that was a tough look for will and then dave putting our little group chat up i mean dave has only been supportive of will Compton. The words Dave has said, regardless of tone, if you just read him on a transcript, they are very supportive of Wilcompton. Yes or no?

Yes. Yes. So don't be mad. Listen, September 20 is coming, boys. I can't fucking wait. I can't fucking wait for September 20th. I joke two F bombs right there back to back. Okay.

Kind of close. It is kind of close. This is since 1962. Yeah. Listen, boys. What's that last matchup? What's the score on that one? Let me see.

Zoom in a little bit. You know my eyes are bad. Yeah. Ooh. Yeah. Oh, 457. Does it say where it was at? Let's see.

At Nebraska. Hey, man, it's going to be a fun fall. It's going to be a fun, fun fall. Right? Yes, sir. His birthday weekend, we get to celebrate him, get him a meat cake. It'll be awesome. That'll be awesome.

We'll love him up. Friday night we'll love them up. We'll oil them up, you know. Do a little live show, kicking around a little bit. Huh? A couple of BLs for the boy, huh? There's no telling what happens

if they lose that game in that type of fashion. If they lose that game in that type of fashion, we're taking different planes home, boys. We're taking different planes home. Like, it's fun to poke and prod at will, but this one just feels like it means more. I think it would break them. I think it would.

It would break me if I was said. Because we're... And that's coming from a guy who's gone through a lot. Yeah. Got through a lot in his life as a Gamecox fan. Dude, if the Michigan beats Nebraska again, after the way Will's talking for a fourth year in a row, we've got to...

No joke. We got to sit down with him. And what's it called when someone's on drugs? Intervention. We have intervention with him. Yeah. And we have to legit something to... and be like you need to stop doing this it's too it's too much you're doing it to yourself you're doing

it to yourself and he knows that to an extent but then i always think like he knows what he's doing but then a piece of me he's like does he really though does he actually know what he's doing scary time man scary time to be alive if your last name is compton all right because he has i don't even think he understands how much is riding on this it's tough let's get into uh ufc 318 Yeah. Let's get to UFC 318. Listen, I was, boys in Canada, third world country up there a little bit

when it comes to internet connection. I was having a tough time. Having a tough time. Ended up catching the Holloway fight. We did Taylor's pick, Will's pick, obviously, Taylor's pick won. We went Max Holloway. I didn't love that I won.

Because you kind of wanted little Wayne walks out, Porier, you know, diamonds out there for the last time. All of New Orleans are standing up, clapping this guy, between rounds, they are loving this man. But it seemed to me, Porter was old, he knew he was done. Max Hollow was quicker, faster, stronger.

And it wasn't close. It wasn't. There was a couple times that he kind of clipped him a little bit, and everybody's got a puncher's chance when it comes to the UFC. But even when they're on the ground, I feel like Max could have probably finished him in that first or second round. And it just didn't, it seemed like Max is like, he can't go out like this.

It felt that way. It kind of felt like he was just like, this dude's a legend. I respect a shit out of him. This is supposed to be his night. I'm actually ruining his night right now. Let me get up with this boy. Because when the fight started,

I'm sitting with a bunch of talents, friends, and family. And I even said, I was like, if this goes all five rounds, it goes on the last 10 seconds, they do the point at the ground. It'll feel a little stage to me. And sure enough, we got there the fifth round. And he, Max Holloway points at the ground.

Dustin Poirier gives him the nod. and Dustin O'Fourier just puts his hands up like that the whole day. He's like, I've seen this story before. I'm done. Yeah,

I've seen that one too many times. Big fan of both of these guys. I thought it was very cool how Max Holloway took the mic from D.C. Hey, I'm the champ, whatever,

who gives a fuck. UFC, it's on you. This thing's about Dustin Poria. He is not my night. Not my night. And that's cool. I loved the highlight reel they showed. Thank you.

Dude, I don't know about y'all, we all getting teared up a little bit watching that? Especially him, man. Like, Dustin's just been through so much. Yeah. And his journey, like, there's no reason he shouldn't have been unified champion at some point.

And honestly, I mean, I wanted to see him go out on a win. But him going out, how he did is like, that's Dustin's fight game. Yeah. Like, that's his career. Yeah. And it's, and he's never been like out of, he's always like a very good winner and a very good loser. Except for when he came after Mike that one time. Yeah, how weird was that?

I know. That was, that was. We let that go because it's, you know, he's out of the game now. Yeah, put a pin in that because I do want to mention something about Mike. But go ahead. Oh, but, you know, I'm just like, it was a very pourier way to go out. Like, he always took the hard road and his last fight was as hard as it gets. So respect, man, diamonds are forever.

I'll miss him in the UFC. We watch him grow up. I hope his life after fighting is as good as it can be. Let's get a moment of silence for Dustin Porter. For the diamond. Thank you. but I bet one that's tight um

you did pourier coming at mike and then patty pimlet after the fight coming at mike Mike's the nicest guy in the world and he's been like these guys are talking about him like he's a dirty fighter Mike are you a dirty fighter

is there something you're doing that I don't know about because it seems like these guys are like they hate him but they love him like he's a great guy but he's in the ring he's an asshole right he's a dirt bag odd It's odd. Very odd.

One of one of Porreys guys, he asked me, he's like, what's Mike really like outside of fighting? It's like, is he a good dude? I'm like, dude, there's honestly, he's like one of the people I look up to most in my life. Like he's an awesome person. From a character standpoint. Right. They're like, oh, really? Like, are you sure?

I'm like, yes, I would die on that statement. And it just doesn't make sense to me. Yeah. He must do something. Yeah. He must change into something else. He hit some hard too. Nobody likes getting hit hard.

I know it's, I know it's, I know it's, July 22nd when you're watching the show. But I cannot wait for UFC at the White House. Have you seen some of the possible cards? And Dana's already said it's way too far out. I think he even said John Jones is not going to be on. He can't be trusted.

He can't be trusted with that big of a thing. But I saw John Jones, is it Aspidol? Aspiral. McGregor, Chandler, which we all thought it was dead. This is the only thing in my mind that's like, this shit could actually happen. Yeah.

Because I think he went back in the testing pool, no? He did. Boys, can we get Chandler McGregor? Do we think it's going to happen? I don't think so. Logic. And I wanted to. I want that fight to happen just like everybody else says.

But at some point, like, when do we kind of, when does it get, like, old? I think it's old? No, I'm saying, like, when does McGregor's, like, schick of, like, I'm going to fight again and then he doesn't. Like, when do people just, like, stop caring? at some point. Do they ever? Or, I mean, it's Connor McGregor. Like, I understand who he is and what he's done for the sport, like,

probably biggest combat fighter ever. At what point does he get old? He's got 8-1 million paper views. And I'm going to watch it, no matter how many times he fights, if he ever does again. But I'm like, at some point, we got to get this on paper.

Yeah, you want something's got to give vibes right now. Yeah, I'm just starting to get a little frustrated, but I want to see that fight. And this is, it was unfair for me to ask you, this question right if we got done talking about the Titans and the Bulls. Yeah. It's unfair. Mentally.

Yeah. I'm just thinking. I can't expect you to come and give me a positive answer about anything. Yeah. J. But you think it's going to happen? I mean, this is the only way McGregor comes back is if it's at the White House. I think him dropping his meat pick out there.

It's also trending in a good direction. Yeah. He's been in the wait room. If you saw the photo, there was a dumbbell attached, which is insane. Shut the fuck up. Is it? It has to be. of the, like...

How long as you look at this photo? Well, no, you gotta know the content you're talking about. Yeah, I know your guy. It's film room. Yeah. It's one of the core values of Bussing with the boys. No doubt. Film room. I love it. But, bro, I got, I mean, I'll have to show it to you.

It's crazy. Is it weird that I'm ready? No. Is it odd that I'm ready? You should be ready. Oh, that's what it is. Is it Tomahawk? Tomahawk.

It's this is it. If your kids are watching. No, don't. I showed them. What do you guys think? But, dude, I think if it's going to happen, this will be it. If it doesn't happen on the 4th of July next year, then he's never coming back. I agree with that statement.

Yeah. And if you're Dana talking about John Jones, you can't be trusted. Like, do you trust Connor McGregor? John Jones will be on that card. Oh, you think it's a little reverse psychology? Yeah, he'll be on it. He's got to be on it. He retired for four days?

Yeah. shit I'd retire I come out of I'm going to retire for that too I also saw potential Islam versus Ilya if he's trying to get that third belt Triple champ

Yeah no shit If he like still has both And he's going for the third I think After watching After watching Ilya live He has to give me a reason To doubt him

I really believe He's beating everybody Beating fucking everybody I love that What else is on the docket Do we have anything else we want to talk about Sky Sheffler Yeah

1997 days 4 masters same as Tiger Woods Incredible get him a round of applause Is he the goat then Does that make him the goat Not yet Not yet

A lot of golf level And I'm here to get the opinions about golf Because I don't know shit about golf He's well on his way He's on his way Right he's on the correct path at this point I think what should be looked into though Because I'm not too sure

I gotta believe Tiger was probably younger Which is this like kind of getting I love Scotty chef but it's kind of getting like watched in the headline of their first and fourth majors were this far apart but tiger was probably like four years younger too that's crazy so but i hope scott it can do it that'll be awesome something about tiger woods too even as a kid like i never watched golf right but for some reason even i like i knew about tiger woods everyone knew about tiger woods it would be on they were like that guy i think the main thing that they have in common and it may be a huge difference in how they have it in

common, but Tiger Woods was so separated from the game, having his own game just right here and his own level of what is good enough, that it separated him from everybody, whereas Scotty is more like, what is most important to me is being a good husband, a good dad, a good son, like, that's what's important, not all these trophies. So it's kind of funny. They, they juxtapose each other, but they're also the same. Wow. Different, but the same. Mismo, Mismo, pero differente. Mm.

Yeah, I loved his postgame presser. As a competitor, if you watch it through the lens of competition, you're like, yeah, this dude, what the fuck's he talking about? But when you are, like, out of it, you're like, everything he's talking about is so true. Because every time you are able to reach a goal that you've been seeking for a certain amount of time, once you get there, you truly enjoy it for maybe 24 hours,

not even. And then you're thinking about, how can I achieve something next? And it's just this crazy mental warfare that goes on. So good for him to have a good head on the shoulders, man. That's cool. Hang out with this kid right there. I love that.

I love that. Let's get us some nitty gritty real quick. Go back up to the notes for me. NFL Players Association. The leader. Lloyd Howell Jr. has resigned. Why? Why is he?

I'll tell you right now. Investigations, they've revealed that the NFLPA is, looking into doing a couple things. My man was taking trips, doing expenses. Where was he headed? Strip clubs. Expensing strip clubs, calling them business, what is it? Business things?

Is that the political correct term? Player engagement. Player engagement, Miami. I will say every time we went to Miami and played Miami, if that's what you call it, a lot of my teammates were doing some player engagement. The same as Lloyd Howell. I don't know, there's like a two-story one

that they have good food at apparently. As a football player, are you an independent contractor? Huh? As a football player, are you an independent contractor? Like, are you your own, you know, like fighters are independent contractors? Like, they're their own business. It's a good question. I think off the top of my head without putting a whole lot of thought into it, the answer is yes and no.

Like, yeah, you're an independent contractor because you are, like, you're a part of a team, but really like, that eventually a team won't want you. You got to go somewhere else. Similar to strippers. Wow. Wow. Maybe he was doing some. Yeah. Some study.

Yeah. Business. Yeah. How do they operate? Cash business. I get it. I get it. Flexibility.

That plays a lot in the NFL as well as well too. More aerodynamic. Less clothing. Yeah, I get that, dude. Player engagement. I like that shirt. I like that. Now, if you guys have watched a show for a long time, you know my opinion about the NFLPA.

Will and I've had a bunch of arguments about that. If you want to get into those, you can go find them yourself. But seems like I'm right. Seems like the argument is there. into I'm right and my boy j c treter resigns since i'm taking my family i'm getting out of here i don't know anything about if he was a part of or anything like that i truly have no idea i saw this on twitter per will compton's twitter when i was standing in line getting shoulder shrugged at in a nice way and a nasty way but shrugging back but shrugging back eventually so jays jrott

love the guy trained with him in carlsbad california for a few years awesome guys a absolute workhorse love him to death um um um Um, NFPA, you guys know how I feel about you. You know how I feel about you. Okay. That's all I got on that, dude. You guys have your own opinions on it. And this whole thing was per ESPN.

ESPN said this? Yes. All right. ESPN says, we're giving credit where credit is due. That's all I got, man. I don't even want to get in the weeds because then I start being nasty and saying a whole bunch of shit. Lloyd Howell, scumbag, just like the rest of them type talk. And I just don't want to, I don't want to do that, you know?

Can I ask. can I ask one quick question sure if you can ask me anything you want buddy as long as we're recording okay perfect first off jp are we recording recording you're good to go thank god

secondly taylor when y'all have talked about the NFLPA that was before i was here i don't have a good understanding of it and i'm truly wondering like what are what kind of decisions do they make for players like what can they do

that like affects a player's life in the NFL they're a union so they work all the benefits that we get and they work on negotiations. Like when the new CBA is, everyone's always talking about how we need to get more revenue based on what the owners get and the players get, how it needs to be 50-50 and players need to get paid more and all these things and fully guaranteed contracts. Marijuana needs to be illegal or un-legal. Those are like the kind of the hot topic headlines.

Those are there's a lot more other things they do. They spend a lot of money. They go to Hawaii every single year. They have about 200 players out. They spend money on that. You give about $13,000 a year to them. And not a whole lot comes up. you have the same three guys coming to your building,

tell you all the things you can and can't do. You get guys like Dennis Kelly am answering more comprehensive questions. They can't answer them. It's a shit show, dude. It is a shit show. And it's structurally the way the NFL is, everybody wants guaranteeing contracts.

You're not going to be able to get them because you have the 1% of the 1% in the NFL. Those guys are getting broke off, making a whole bunch of money. Those guys, they're great. They're solid. Then if your middle tier guys were probably talking about, you know,

we want guaranteed contracts as well. But the majority of the NFL is filled with guys that are rookies or guys fighting on the roster spy. So anytime you get into a CBA negotiation with the owners, any proposal given the PA has to bring to the players, which is voted on. So the NFL owners, all they have to do is like, hey, we'll bump up minimum wage by, you know, I think when I first got in the league, it was $420,000, hilarious number. And now it's close to a million dollars.

It might be like nine or might be even into a million now. Really? And so, yeah, so guys that are making minimum are making way more. How am I supposed to when I'm making $16 million a year, look at a guy who's making $500,000 a year and be like, hold off for the youth, for the people coming up before us. NFL stands for not for long. I understand why those guys bend the knee. I get it. I was lucky enough to be one of those guys are like, we should guarantee.

Listen, it's a great thought. But unless you have all the quarterbacks do it, it's not going to work out, man. And the PA itself too, like, my opinion truly started about the PA when my PED thing happened. And I literally, my wife sees the letter. She starts getting all freaked out. And I'm like, dude, judicial system. And it's before proven guilty. Like, we'll figure this out.

I didn't do it. Blah, blah, blah. I started going through the channels. I got to phone my agent. They're like, you're fucked. Like, there's no way you're going to get suspended. There's no way. So that was where my belief in the NFLPA looking up for our best interest.

Like, how are we going to have something this? And it's like, hey, you're responsible, what's in your body. I get that. You're also going to take supplements as you want to be as good as possible and feel as healthy as possible. So that's when my hatred for the NFLPA really started to snowball. Will, who was a part of the PA, he would go to the things. He's got a completely different perspective on all that.

So we've gone back and forth a lot. I would say this would probably lean in the favor of me saying the NFLPA is no-boingo. No-boingo. So that's just my, that's my thing. That's my little take on it. Two guaranteed contracts this year, Seattle's second round pick. He's the first rookie outside of the first round to sign a fully guaranteed contract. No shit.

Yeah. Nikki Manwari. I wonder what the language in that is. Maybe he got less money. Yeah, I have no idea. He had to get less money. Also, not necessarily a friend of the show, not necessarily a fan of me. Let's give a right of applause for TJ Watts.

Signed the largest contract, non-quarterback contract in NFL history. He deserves it. Guy's a stud. Guy hates my guts, rightfully so, but still going to give credit where credit is due. Guy is an absolute workhorse. Yeah. Stud. All right.

I think I'm good. You feel good. I feel good. Do you guys feel good? Feel great. Feel great. Oh. Chat, UBT.

Yeah. Yeah. Let me see. Okay, so we have a summary of what. So essentially, Taylor, I typed in very lengthy at the top of the top of this like a full thing you can click pause if you're at home and want to read that whole thing but i broke it down in full detail we'll read the real the the dogs the real dudes the tier ones have sat through this entire thing they've been waiting for this oh for sure and the real

tier ones definitely hit pause on that and we're like hold on because sherman could just typed anything in chat jp t so i tried to keep it completely uh unbiased impartial it's uh would you like to read it aloud taylor no no no you know i don't do well all right in summary Will should stay stay cool, stay funny and be firm behind the scenes he leads the brand

and part of the leadership is knowing when to turn a mistake into content and when to lay down expectations without damaging morale Sherman's mess up was big but fixable address it with clarity then move forward with even tighter systems and maybe a few laughs at his expense

I that is almost verbatim what will did we'll probably put it in chat gpt you said what we'll probably put it in chat gpt he probably did how should i respond how should i respond i like i like stay cool

and be firm behind the scenes but how do you like mood dictates a lot of funny mood dictates a lot of funny oh and that's why in the moment he just who closed his mouth sat there for 15 minutes silently. How much were you just in hell?

I stepped there silently for about 10 minutes and then I made a funny. I don't remember what I said. We'd have to ask Jeff and Will laugh. And then he like did want these types of laughs though and turned slowly to me. Turn slowly to me and goes, now is not the time. And I just go, absolutely, absolutely. And just get back on my computer. Yeah, it wasn't that good. He did laugh, though. Did you apologize?

After, afterward. You did apologize? Oh, that whole, hey, I'm going to stop saying sorry thing. You should have been there. Because I think I said sorry 20 times after we were done recording. And then spoke to him also after work and apologized maybe 10 more times, I would say. Okay. And it was a good combo.

All right. It's a good place. Can I be honest with you? Please. The lack of sleep with the flight and everything that's really catching up with me at the end of this podcast. Let's bring this thing home. Let's get the Greg Olson. Huh?

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Three-time Proble. on Fox giving you the breakdown each and every single week hailing from the you when the you was a you give it up for Greg Olson this is a long time coming I was just gonna say that I've never been on the I've gone I've been on with you guys been never on the bus correct do we do a zoom I don't even know if Taylor was part of it I did so because I was doing Tide in you and that was when it was in your guys's hotel it was in the hotel but it was yeah it might just this is 20 21 this is like I never been on the bus yeah how's it feel? It feels great. It's everything I ever dreamed of. Right. It's, it's, I really like

your whole setup here. The bus inside the shed. It's going on out here. You got a lot going on out here. It's, it has good, you can tell there's like a good culture here. You can, when you walk in this warehouse, you can just tell like there are only dudes. Just that work at this place. There's not one female within 40 miles of this place. There's trash over the place. You know what this looked like when I walked into my, so I got here for T. I got my two boys, 12 and 14, and my nephew who's 15, and our friend from home who's 12. And the four boys are sharing two double bed, you know, two double bed. They're living the dream right now.

When we, well, they're living a dream. Well, I'm sure we'll talk about the week. But we walked in, I walked into the room with my wife this morning. I thought my wife was going to throw up. When I tell you, there was not a square inch of carpet visible on the floor, clothes, wet towels, shoes, their cleats from yesterday's workout, dirty socks, all the shit they've given away here at T.U. That, when I walked into their room and I walked into your little shit, like, that's kind of, it was very similar. Yeah. We're just a bunch of teenagers with a double bands in a hotel.

You just got a lot more money. Exactly. A lot more bud light. There's expensive, expensive trash on the ground. What's the conversation you walk in that room? You know, mom's pissed. Mom's pissed. That's like a, that's like a, that's like a boys get up. Like, they're, you know, they're still sleeping. like in bed under we let ourselves in because we got a key and it's like all right fellas you got literally 45 seconds to like be out of bed showing some level of urgency even if it's fake even if it's like fake energy like you've got to be up putting stuff in the hamper putting stuff in your bag just fold the same shirt five times right like you don't even know what you're doing just you got to look busy and look active because if not you're you're done mom's gonna get you in her

yeah you're dead yeah you can't have that your boys um I'll be honest. They got some talent when it comes throwing a baseball. We're working on it. They could be better. You can tell they're working on too. Greg was, you know.

We take it seriously. Yeah. He was a father-fought. You are the ultimate boy dad. Yeah. I'm just, I have very little patience and I probably drive my kids nuts.

I just have very little patience. I'm good. If they told me today, like, you know what, Dad? Like, sports isn't our thing. Fine. Like, I don't need them to play sports. But if we're going to play sports,

we're going to play. We're just not going to, like, we're just not going to participate and be on the team and just be around. And what I do at practice is enough, but at home, I'm like more, if you're going to be on this team

and you're going to say you want to be good, I don't know any other way than just like, let's go be good. Like, let's go be as good as you can be. Whatever that is, you don't need to be a star, but like, I don't do a lot of shit half ass. So that's kind of like my big message to them. Like, all right, if you're going to, I always say,

like, if you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly. Like, if we're going to do it, let's do it. If you don't want to do it, no problem. We'll go to something else. All good. But like, if we're going to be on the team and we're going to want to go to week-long tournaments and we want to go travel to here and try out for this.

All right. If you want to do that, I'll show you what that looks like. But it's a lot of work. Was that what your childhood was like? Yeah. Was your dad very similar that way? If you're going to do something, we're doing it 100%. Yeah, so my dad was my high school football coach.

So picture from 19. He started coaching in the late 70s, coached Ironhead. Hayward coach, I mean, he coached some real dudes, coached me and all my brothers. He coached at my high school, public school in New Jersey, typical suburban public high school high school from 1985, the year I was born until 2013. He was at our school that we grew up going, that we grew up and went to. So picture traditional high school football coach. Hard, intense, all that picture it, that was him.

And we won a shit ton of games. He won 10 state titles. Like, we were good, but it was serious. Like we grew up going to summer camps and we slept on the floor of a dorm room in a sleeping bag. And we were working camps and that was our summer vacations. Like that's all we knew was football, locker rooms, water boy, ball boy. And then eventually grew up and played for him. But yeah, there wasn't a whole lot of just like casualness to our sports and journey as kids.

And I know it's not for everybody, but obviously I'm thankful for it because that's where I learned. That's where my whole foundation was laid. And you're trying to lay the same foundation. for your boys? Yeah, as long as they want to do it. Yeah. Right? So, like, I have two boys.

Did you have the same choice when you were growing up? Yeah, we loved it. Like, my dad did not have to beg us to go throw the ball, to go run. And we played everything. We played basketball. We played baseball growing up. I did track in high school basketball all four years in high school. So it wasn't like today where, all right, ninth grade, you're going to be a football

player. You're just going to do football for four years. Like, we didn't have that back when we were growing up. So we played everything. But, like, he never had a basketball. beg us. He never made us go to the gym. He never made us go out to the field. Now, when we went, it was hard. Like, looking back what we were doing in eighth, ninth grade, relative to the times that we were in. Like, it was pretty intense. Like, our weight room, we were lifting with the high

school kids. And it was four days a week in the summer. And it was hot. And it was sleepaway camp. And we were exposed to that since we were in middle school. But he never had him, he never made us go. It was never forced upon us. We loved it, but it was hard. And I'm thankful for that. Do you see the same thing with your kids? Do they love it? Are they all about it? I think they love it. I think we live in very different times, right?

I think we live in very, it's a very much more distracted world of youth sports. I think it's a lot more highlight driven. It's a lot more social media driven. I think there's a lot more pressure on these kids because they know every single kid, both around town and around the country now, who they are, what their names are, how hard they throw, how big they all, how tar they all, how many home runs they've hit. It's all accessible. Growing up, you knew who the star was of your town.

You knew who maybe the town next to you because you played against them and all your sports. That was it. Until I went to Miami in high school, for a summer camp, I didn't know what else was out there. Like all I knew was North Jersey sports. Yeah. And, you know, lived in a very, you know, kind of little bubble. But then the kids now, they're playing in tournaments at a state. You know, they're going to Texas.

We live in North Carolina. They're going to Texas. They've been to Florida, Georgia. They've been all over and played teams from all. over the country. So there's this, there's a bigger scale of like what good looks like at 12 years old, 14 years old. And it's dangerous. It's hard. If you're not, my kids aren't the biggest kids. They're not the most physical kids. They're not the big grown man at 12. Like, you go to some of these events. Your confidence can get shot pretty quick. Because you look around and there's a 12 year

old who walks in. He looks like you. And he's throwing 80. I'm serious. Some of these kids are insane. We saw a picture the other day of some five-star recruit 17 years old. And he looks like a 45-year-old man. Yeah. And it's just like, what's in the water? What's going on? Yeah. It seems like everyone's just getting bigger, stronger, faster.

I walk out of these baseball, basketball, whatever tournaments. We've done mostly baseball with the boys on like that level. And I'll be walking out. And mind you, they're 12, 13 years old. And I'm a fairly tall guy. I'm walking out of these parks. And I'm looking around. And the 12-year-old kid who just threw 75 on the mound who's 5-11 and dad's 5-9.

Mm-hmm. it's I don't know there's something in the water there's something going on PEDs this is going on listen I don't know what's going on

but there's something going on because kids I know everyone always says it wasn't like this in my day but it wasn't that long ago kids did not look like they do now to answer your question they love it I do think like all kids

they get caught up and like that's the best kid he's the best kid oh he got selected to this event he got selected to this fest Like, it was telling me, it's not a race to 12, but it's very hard to convince young kids that the moment they're in right now doesn't define their athletic career forever. Right, because it's a battle.

It's there right now. It's there right now. They're making these kids to be superheroes. That's our biggest struggle. Has there ever been a struggle for you, for your kids being like, oh, my dad did X, Y, and Z with his career. And they feel like they should live up some sort of expectation. I'm sure.

And again, we live in Charlotte. Which, you know, obviously the bulk of my career, the bulk of my success was there. I think if we lived in Nashville, it would be different if we lived in, I think it would be different if we lived in a city that I didn't play the bulk of my career. The vast majority of the people in the Carolinas know me from my career. And yeah, when they come in or there are people going, that's Olson's kid, I hope he strikes out. That's Olson's kid.

He's not that good. He is that good. That's his daughter. I'm sure. Because they're comparing their kids versus your kids. My kid beat this kid. His dad was X Y, Y, and trust me. They want to beat our teams, and I coach a bunch of the kids sports.

I coach each kid for one season. And yeah, they want to beat us. There's no question. I'm aware of that. I make my kids aware of that because I'm not going to shelter them from that. Like, if you guys want to do this, A, the competitive landscape of sports has never been higher at the young age. It's just the nature of the world we live in, right, wrong, or indifferent.

And when you're around here, especially some of these people that they might not like me, they might whatever it is there's a lot of people that are not rooting for you to have success and you better be mentally strong enough that that does not waver anything you do but again they're young they're in middle school it's hard they're they're very influential it's a very unique world but uh we don't get it all right but i teach my kids we're going to compete our ass off and we're going to do all the work humanly possible in between your competitions to give yourself the utmost chance to have success. Whatever the result is from there, great. You hit three home runs. Great. You strike out five times. Did you do the work and compete your ass off and go out and battle? If you did that,

we'll fix the rest. But the second you stop competing, the second you stop putting the work in, the second you start feeling sorry. That's the part. I don't have a lot. I don't have a lot of patience for that. And you're learning, you're saying that they're learning about these kids from other states and everything else just through like social media. Which is true. It's like growing up playing travel baseball you wouldn't necessarily know like you you're still coming across like kids you were throwing 70 plus but you wouldn't see until they're warming up on the mound and be like oh fuck like this guy's pretty good you know the second the games come out you know hey will compton he plays for the ash gosh gosh select boom boom elite national i hope he doesn't pitch because taylor he throws eight

oh they know every kid on every team whether they're from california north carolina that doesn't matter that's such a crazy concept to like wrap your mind around because like Because games can be won and lost, like just before it even starts. Before it even starts. Because you're second yourself out. Because growing up, like baseball, like baseball, basketball, football. Like, you kind of just showed up and played. And you hear about, like, the kids that were really good at baseball.

They would start going to the camps doing things like hockey. My dad grew up in a dime in Minnesota. And my brother got really good at hockey. So at a young age, it was like, we need to go to all these travel events and do all those travel things. And for me, it was like, yeah, just keep playing sports and get a scholarship, great. If not, like, it is, it is what it is. Football is a little different. Football is a little different.

It's kind of like, because, I mean, it, it's, you mean, it. Until kids hit puberty and like kind of understand what they are and who they are, it's like you'll find out who you are in the future with that. Baseball, it seems like guys are getting figured out quickly. Basketball seems that way. Hockey for sure. Like it's crazy to me that kids go to a billet family. Like, oh, you're 14 years old.

You have an opportunity to make it in hockey. You're going to move up north to Michigan or Minnesota and you're going to go live with a different family you don't know. So you have a better opportunity to do this. Yeah. Can't imagine. Yeah, the culture of hockey is very unique. Yeah. That's the most, I don't know a lot about it.

We haven't been hockey family, but it's definitely the most intense, the most that kind of track, almost more like Olympic, like Olympic sports where these young tennis stars, these prodigies and golf tennis, you know, these young girls go live at IMG at 14 and there's these academies around the world for tennis and golf and all that. Almost gymnastics is kind of like that. Hockey fits in that. That's what's so cool about football, though. Like so on the other side of the coin, we coach our kids, both my boys on our middle school

football team. And it's just our school. 7th and 8th grade. Kids at our school. We got 50 some odd kids that come out for the team and we represent our school. Like, it's easy. It's what we, it's what I remember growing up. Like you just, right. It was no get this kid from here,

get this kid from here. How do we? Whoever showed up plays like whoever's on your school and comes out for the team, that's your team. And you just coach the shit out of them and see how good you can get. It feels like on a national, from a national standpoint, though, it is kind of shifting a little bit because you brought up IMG and these like bigger schools. that are essentially recruiting guys.

We had J.C. Treader, J.C. Latham, excuse me, J.C. Latham on. And he was in Wisconsin, right? And he was kind of doing whatever. And they recruited him to go down to IMG. And that's where all the four and five star kids go. And that's just, it seems like that's starting to go that way. It's getting younger. It's getting younger and younger and younger.

That used to not happen until you were junior in high school. Now it's happening as a rising ninth grader. Yeah. And now it's gonna move even younger now to the middle school kids are going to relocate. The thing that's unique about folks, football is seven on seven is kind of taking over that travel baseball, travel basketball AAU circuit where it is more, it's not school dominated. It's true travel ball, collect as many good kids, make your whatever seven on seven team,

and then go around to all these events, more of the AAU circuit, the EYBL and a, you know, travel basketball, baseball and all that. The wholesomeness, though, of school sports is still the strongest in football. That's where kids really get recruited. That's where colleges still know your high school coach. The other sports are losing that a little bit. And I don't necessarily love it. I think there's something special about playing for your town,

your school with your buddies, Friday night. You can't, it's hard to describe to a kid nowadays what that looks like. But like, I don't know how you guys feel, but like looking back on that, the highlight of my entire football journey. I had really fun times, great guys. There's something cool playing with your buddies. at your school, Friday night, in front of your town, and going to try to beat the town next door to you that you grew up playing against those kids.

Like, I don't know, man, I just don't think you ever beat that. Dude, you cannot be. I mean, just put it on K. Chasney, the boys of fault. That song doesn't get you fired up. You got nothing in your, you guys. Just the purity of the game, like, you don't know that a monster energy drink is bad for you, but you want to go to the gas stations with one of the horsey guys. You don't know that when you look back on your neck roll.

Yeah, if I take one of these, I'm going to have some more juice before the game. Oh, what's getting your ankles tape? That seems like, I don't know if I should. that seems kind of cool. You watch Friday Night Lights. Like the purity of the game in high school football, there's just, there's nothing like it.

And being able to play, be lucky enough to play every level of the game of football, the fact that high school is the best in our minds is great because everybody, every kid can go and play high school football and feel that Friday night lights. Where you kind of feel like you're the main event. And if you're lucky enough to grow up in a smaller town,

oh, that must be amazing. You cannot fucking beat it, dude. Like we, my sophomore year of high school, just a bunch of gritty, white kids, we go 15 and 0 and go to state down in Phoenix. And the town itself put up little signs a close for state. It's Friday night lights. It's the movies. It's the, that's real. It's amazing.

And you feel like for that moment, you're like, we are the main attraction. It's when you're like, you're, you're obviously extremely motivated in college and when you play in the NFL and professional ball. But when you're, when you're in high school, like, I feel like it's when you're just the most inspired. You know nothing about the business side of everything. You know nothing. You know nothing. I think about any of the bureaucracies that go on with depth charts or any of that stuff at the highest level in college. Like high school, it's like you are just the most inspired by players you want to be like, players you want to emulate.

Just live in the dream in your head a little bit on a Friday night. It is, it is the best. And you got even more pure form because like it was rivals in 24-7 where those are things. Just starting. Just starting. I was in its infancy of like rankings and player rankings and stars and all that. It was just starting when I was in high school. Because I remember going to like 24-7.

Yeah. And after every game, we didn't get a stat sheet ourselves. So I would like wait for that to load up to go. How many tackles did I really get? I feel like I got eight and it'd be like three. Like, okay, I can see how they got there.

But like, you know, I felt like I felt like I got eight. I jumped on a couple piles. I think I just a pile. I was a big pile jumper. Big pile jumper. They're like got the assist there,

boys, you're welcome. Got them down for you. And the guy that's doing the PA announcing. He just, he just found the closest number he can find. He's just saying your name all day. You're a hero.

Right. Exactly. On the tackle. But we're losing that. You talk about IMG and those academies. That's one thing. There's public high schools all around the country that kids are going to four different schools in four years. There's public schools that they're getting apartment buildings down the street.

And you can just move in, write your new address on. And you go to a new school like that. Florida's got school choice. You can transfer free of charge, go to any school within your county and not have to, no need to live there. Like, it's the Wild West right now. When I was in high school, I was going, I was in a small town, right?

I told you the state thing sophomore year. The next year we go like three and seven. We were really bad. And we played a school in Scottsdale, Arizona, and one of the coaches coached me in Papa Warner. And he's like, hey, Taylor, he's got the frame for being off its alignment. They kind of started doing the little recruiting thing. Yeah.

So all my dad did was go get an apartment. That was a block away. There you go. And now you're in the district and I started school like before the end of my junior year. You were ahead of the times. The head of the times, man. Best decision I ever made, I was heartbroken to leave my boys though. Of course.

Because that's what's all about. Yeah. The Friday, we had one Dairy Queen. And because the Cave Creek, Arizona, like, they don't allow any franchises. But like in the 80s, they're like, hey, we'll allow a Dairy Queen. That was a big deal for the town. So Fridays before games, we would go smack a blizzard before game. Go play thinking like, yeah, we're juiced up.

Yeah, I'm just trying to get my cows up. That's all I care about is you have a little more weight on. So I handle this double team a little bit better. And then after that, it's like, who's got a fake ID? Who's, that's it right there. Catching a cramp at the after party because you played so much. Yeah. And you're like, someone, so-and-so's parents are out of town.

Oh, I got stretching. Yeah. Someone's parents are out of town and so they got a couple racks of bud light. And we're going to get there and like, I'm going to hopefully get three beers in me and be like, this is, this is what maybe it's all fucking about. Where does life go from here? It does it. Just babies and memories after that. Yeah.

I got lots of them. Yeah. I got lots of them. Just listening to Headstrong on the bus. Fuck. The music, high school locker room music. Yeah. I think every high school in America, for the most part, listen to the same like six songs in those days.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, the amount of times you hear a thunderstorm. Oh my God. Yeah. But every time you should be like, ah, ha ha ha. You don't even really like, I wasn't like in high school. I don't know, like in high school, like we all like were in our rap phase where like everyone loved rap music. Top and Biggie.

Like that was our era. But in a locker room, like it didn't matter who was in the locker room. Like there was something about rock music. pregame. You wouldn't listen to that song in a million fucking years. But if you're spattin up did you guys used to get to the games early because you wanted to change your cleats?

Like did you guys have screwing cleats? No, no. I had Nike sharks and you could actually take so the Nike swish, they had like little colors and you could pull out the color and put it in a different color. So you guys are so much younger than me. Dude, the highlight of high school football was we were able to finally

use detachable cleats like you'd go. So like go before the game, meet all the other buddies in the team. We were going to get there early. I got to put in new cleats. My dad would buy like boxes of just detachable cleats. So like only the seniors could get like fresh ones. And you made the freshmen. They, they, they were down to like their nubs. You can see the metal coming through. But man, you sit there with those little keys. You change your spikes. The spikes were this big and you'd walk around like the tile lock rooms in school. Oh, yeah. It was like clink. Dude, thunder. Oh, he's the best. Like you got that one, that one coach.

on the staff that knows how to make a little highlight tape in the VHS and pops it in the thunderstructs in the background and you're seeing the tape from the press box. You be here. You're running for an 80 yarder. Dude, crazy. We're going to kill these. Crazy.

So like the end of the year banquet when like you're, I don't know about you guys like we had like a school like TV productions class that would make like a year highlight film that was like the season recap. Yeah. And you were just like at the banquet and you're like because you know the cheerleaders are there. The parents are there.

The freshmen. you're like, I hope they put on all my good play. And then they put on your good plays and you're kind of looking around him. And he's like, he's, life, that was, that was, wow, what the critical Greg is. Yeah. In my mind, I'm like, the only thing anyone in here is thinking about is that guy number four.

The main character. Big neck roll. Yeah. My shoulder pads were bigger in high school. You could probably find it. My shoulder pads in high school were bigger than my shoulder pads in the NFL. And it's not even. I think that's for most guys, right?

It had to be. Yeah. You can't even. I mean, I mean like who what is that that's a fucking unit that's what that is a unit that's a unit look at that guy the little two bar the little two bar I mean that's a that's an office alignment face mask if ever saw one what is that what surprised me to bust a wedge what surprises me about this photo is sleeves yeah practice that was our practice uniforms okay

so yeah I wouldn't wear it sleeves in the game but that was definitely practice no mouthpiece in Looks like we're practicing kickoff return. What was your saying it looked like kickoff return? Yeah. You're about, yeah, you're locking arms. You're locking the wedge. A lot of stars. I don't know about if you guys noticed the stars.

I see him. Is that, so that's me and my dad. Go, go to the left. That's me and my dad after we won our first state championship. That's my senior year. Big shoulder pads.

Your senior year. First one, we had lost, he had lost seven. Did it. No way. We finally won my senior year. Seven state titles. My older brother, Chris,

who was one grade ahead of me, freshman, sophomore junior senior year he played in four state championships they lost all four of them oh my god my dad my dad had won state championships at his previous school but that was his first state championship at our school that was my younger brother he played he played quarterback at miami he was nasty both my brothers were quarterbacks and uh i got the tight end gene fuck that is awesome your dad is was your dad one of those guys where you're always searching for the proud of you comment or was he Was he pretty vocal emotionally with you?

No, he was pretty quick to tell us. He knew we were good. His balance was immediately after the game, we're going to focus on all the things you didn't do well. And then like an hour or two later, it was going to be like, you guys were pretty good. Like you guys played your ass off. So he was going to coach first and fix all the mistakes.

You want to hear a great story about my dad? This sums up my dad. So, 2016, we have Monday night football against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Cam had gotten hurt the previous week. So Derek Anderson's the quarterback. If Derek Anderson played quarterback, he was going to throw every single pass of the game to me. Like that was just, it was just understood. It was the best.

I got him for however six quarters of my life. And he would throw every ball to me. So we go to Monday night football. There's my dad right there. We go to Monday night football. I have 185 yards on Monday night football we lost but I had 180 something yards we walk into like the little family section in the lobby outside inside the stadium like you know I say out of my wife and my kids and my mom and dad and everybody and in the late

in the in the mid of the fourth quarter we ran like a like a corner route to the boundary and it was a good ball and it was one of those like catch and the guy kind of rakes you like I got turned inside. He was on my back and I got turned inside, which I made my chest to the defender, caught it, and as I was going to the ground, he kind of raked me,

like raked the ball down and I lost it. It was incomplete on third down. So we could punt. We end up losing the game. Was it close? Was it close? Yeah, 1714. There were 185.

13 targets. So I walk in, you know, that's the best game I've ever had in my life. dad gives me a hug say hey what happened on that third down in the fourth quarter I was like I probably should have caught it yeah you know what I mean like and he wasn't saying it he was not the guy that was like dogging like he said it sincerely but like that's just how we grew up like and I was like yeah like I probably should have caught it like that probably would

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So my staff is me, my dad, Jonathan Stewart, Luke, and Todd Blackledge. You guys know Todd. He calls games at NBC, quarterback at Penn State. And your dad's on the staff too. My dad's been doing it with me for this is our fourth year. Dad's walking to the kids back, get you one of these.

So we did two years of Pop Warner, and now this is our second year at the middle school. So this is our fourth year doing it. Me, my dad and Luke have done it. There's a picture of those. Me, my dad and Luke have done it together for four years. Stu just joined us because his kids go to school with us. So you spotted him out.

You're like, hey. Yeah, I was like, Stu. Let's move it down. You need something to do. Let's go. Yeah. His daughters are little. But yeah, man, so we have a blast.

And we run real practices, though. We're fortunate that we have a big staff. For middle school, five guys. We sometimes have a six, like six guys on a coaching staff in middle school is like 100. So we're doing individual team take. off individual offense defense like we can really spread everybody out do a ton of individual work there was us last year getting ready under the lights at our school that was sick just focus oh dude it's the best we do pregame meal i'm watching everything so me and luke

are riding on the bus taking the boys to the game so it's just me luke and just like 30 40 middle school boys taping their fingers now it's like wrist tape up to their elbows they got they're putting eye blitz you know it's the whole Thunderstrokes in the background. Understructs on the background. Still, 30 years later, you only can play. Kids are like,

this song. This song, oh, it's like, you fucking respect this. If you were listening to this song, me and Luke are up there, we're fucking bashing our heads against the road. Someone's like,

complain. I was like, hey! Yeah, for some reason, you weren't allowed to talk on the bus like growing up. It's like, dude, isn't that wild?

It was dead quiet. And then there was like that one assistant, hard-ass coach. Someone would like sneeze. Yeah. Like, can we focus on the games? Yeah. Why is he yelling at me?

Yeah, dude. But, like, Coach Olson's like. But is that not talking about the bus. Right? Yeah. The school buses, the yellow school buses in line up, you get in, you sit in the back, you'd snicker for a little bit. All took us one coach.

Be like, hey, we focused tonight? It's so true. Please tell me, please tell me you just take the buses for just the moment leading up to the game. And you're like, hey, we're not taking any time. Make sure you're tape. Make sure you're ready to go. We're getting off this bus. And we're whooping some ass.

Yeah, we're taped. We're taped before we get there. And then it's shoulder pads and helmets on on the bus. And we're walking off. the stairs. Oh shit. We're walking off the stairs. There's no locker rooms.

There's nowhere to go. But you don't just put the shoulder pads under the little storage area. No, no. We carry them on. Yeah. Put them on. Take care of your rifle. We're booted up.

Put your cleats on. We are walking off the bus locked and loaded. So last year, Luke and I are on the bus with the boys and we're going to one of our way games. And Luke's like taking attendance, like making sure we, because it's just the two of us, the bus driver. And we're responsible for all these kids. And he's doing attendance, and I'm talking the offense and defensive line about, you know, our combo rules and first play of the game is going to be whatever, and let's get off to a good start.

And, you know, 20 minutes later, Luke's like, hey, man, we got a problem. Because I'm looking back at the boys talking to the kids. He's like, we're back at school. I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, the bus driver just went completely in a full circle, and we're back where we started. We end up being 30 minutes late to our game. Me and Luke are sweating. parents are texting us where are the kids

they're waiting for us and Luke and I fucking coming in late with the boys because the bus driver got lost he got lost and just drove back. Yeah, none of us were talking, none of us were paying attention because we're all doing a million things and we did a full circle and we're back at school He's just thinking, I don't know where I'm out

I'm just going to drive back. You think he'd look back at one point and say like a also it's 2025 We got the, look at your phone It was uh And plug it in. Yeah it was uh That was the best Like that's the best part of all of it

Yeah I mean those kids have no idea How good they have it right now You guys went 7 and 1 last year We lost the first game of the season To a good team We lost the first game of the season And then we rattled off

And then you didn't look back No we we We got better as the year went on You only had like 30 kids on the team last year We got like 50 something this year All right the energy is building But we had a really good group Of eighth graders

They just hadn't played a lot of football before Like a lot of first time kids, we're teaching kids how to put helmets on, how to buckle chin straps, how do you do the clip on your shoulder pad? Like, part of our practice was like that. Like we had a lot of kids.

They just didn't know what they didn't know. Understanding how to get dressed is something that nobody ever talks to you about. I played one year, I played Papa when I was a corner, third grade. And I didn't play again until my freshman year. But I remember going to my freshman locker room. All the kids are like getting dressed. And I'm watching them.

Okay, I guess that's a hip pad. I'll put that on my head. And I had to like, I was like watching the kids on the last one dress. Remember how hard it used to be to put the pads in your pants? You get to weave the head pads weaving in. Yes. And then you get to college and you find the shorts that have the head pads that are built in. Yeah.

And you might be a little too old for that. You might have been playing in college with them things. We, we wore girdles with our hip and our butt pad. And then our pants, we would put the thigh pads and the knee pads in our pants. Yes. That's what we used to do. Now all of the pads are all built into the girdle.

Mm-hmm. So they put on it. They pull up a girdle, thigh, hip, butt, all that. And then they just put knee pads in their pants. And that's what the kids wear now. So it's actually pretty easy. Isn't it wild that like when you're in high school, it's how big can I look? Like I need the biggest thigh pad, the biggest knee pads.

But the older you get, it's like how tiny can I make these pads just so I can be bigger or faster stronger? It's crazy how much it changes. It's so true. It's the best though. There's nothing better. Do, are there any moments you still get a little bull in the ring in? and we don't. Oklahoma Drew?

I don't. I'll tell you, it's a good question, though. We don't do bowl in the ring. We don't do Oklahoma. Eye opener. You remember eye opener? We're like, one guy would go sideways and you would shuffle.

And it was cones and I'd pick a lane and we'd go. And like you're standing in the back of the line. Oh, I never did that. But like a ball carry would run sideways. You would shuffle. You'd shuffle. And then once I picked a hole,

you're going. I would go through them. So we did that growing up and you'd be in the line. And you're like, one, two, three, four. And you're like letting the kid go in front of you. He's like, the badass kid on your team is the fourth.

And you're like, one, two, three. Shit, I'm four. I'm not going with Taylor. All right. Will's going to, you know what I mean? Like, you're doing the math in your head. Like, there was a, like, you learned a lot of shit at football practice when we were growing up.

Like, that was your mom and dad was there. Survival the fittest. And if that coach, he didn't give two shits. He could have run you until you died. Like, no one cared. Yeah. We, we can't do that anymore. Parents are there.

How about the parents? How about the pursuit drill where, you know, we do. You got a runner going. You got a low pursuit. You got a high pursuit. It's like two on one. We do a lot of two. We do a ton of pursuit drill.

We had a kid actually break his nose bumping in first practice last week in the summer, no pads. But we just tag off and we teach in-in, out-out, setting edges, you know, who are inside hitmen, who are our forced perimeter players, like get them run into the ball. We do D-line. They go through their little station and then run to the ball, second level. secondary, backside guy, run corner. Like, that's our first drill we do on defensive day.

But we just tag off. We do a lot of teaching progressions of tackling, striking. We always talk like, we're going to hit guys with the screws of our helmet. Like, the helmets don't have screws anymore, but like that's how we learned it. Like, you hit the guy with the screws of your face mask. Got to keep the face up. Face up. So, like, we do a lot of that all summer.

We do controlled contact in practice. Like, we do a ton of, like, two-on-one combo. blocks we call them bazookas like ton of hip-to-hip bazooka like combo taking on strikes we don't go to the ground we don't like just keep it thud we keep it thud you teach you some good football we keep it thud and then in the game obviously we our goal with the kids and we don't shy away from this like our we tell the kids all the time we're going to fix you're going to take the wrong foot you're going to have a backside cut off and you're going to cross over and your stance we're going to have to fix your all that will coach when you come play our team

Our goal is when you're sitting in the stands on the other team, it's like, I'm not sure if I want my kid out there. This is fast. It's violent. They're playing to the ball. And I'm talking within the confines, we don't, like, no dirty stuff. Like, we don't teach, we have no patience and tolerance for any of the extra stuff. We finish, though. But we are playing, we always say to the kid, we're playing real football.

We're here to take a mother fucking soul. We're playing real football. We're not going to do it dirty, but we're taking their life. No, we never, we're not hitting people low. we're not teaching people to hit him in the legs like we're we have high school rules you're not allowed like there's no chop blocking there's no cup blocking like everything's above the way so

kids are protecting in that regard but like we don't strike with our helmets we don't strike with the top but we do strike with our face masks and we do block with our face and our hands are behind my hands my face is behind my hands and I'm striking coming off the ball I mean we're we're playing real football like our job in a year or two

these kids are going to be playing high school ball and we play in a very competitive league we got real dudes our running back just committed in Nebraska. Wait, wait, wait. Our Charlotte Christian high school. Okay, okay, got you. We're a K-12 school. Yeah, okay, okay.

So our high school, uprising senior running back, Jamal rule, just two days ago committed to Nebraska. Let's go. So hold on. The school you're coaching at is K through 12. So there's a high school coaching staff that is watching Greg Olson and Luke Keekely coaching middle schoolers. We're on that we share the field.

Yeah, but you know the high school kids are like, Like, well, why the fuck aren't they coach, you guys? No. We haven't, and I'm not just saying this. High schools are running practice like that. Hey, do you mind if we go over there? Do your procedure? No, bowling the ring.

That's what the fuck we're doing. No, he does a really good job. Chris James, Charlotte Christian is his school. He does a really good job. We're not a big school. We got 150 boys in a grade, 100 total kids. So we're not going to roll out there with 75 kids on a Friday night in uniform.

So it's a smaller group. But we got college-bound kids. We sent two kids in Notre Dame last year. Brian Young's kid, Bryce defensive end at Notre Dame 6-8 Monster Wide receiver at Notre Dame both in the same class

Micah they played in the national championship last year as freshmen I mean we got we put some real dudes into the league into the into the college we just don't have a million of them because it's just a small school Yeah Well when you're talking about doing thud

not taking guys to the ground what's the anxiety level for you on tackling quality tackling quality the first game of the year I want to see us play violent. Like we are going to teach. We are going to run. You might with, we might got to teach keeping our head up and striking back side. And we're big on like, we set firm edges. Like every one of our practice is. We are setting hard edges. Our inside, our inside backers, like our run and chase guys,

like some of our better players. Like we're all inside out hit men. We don't overrun the ball. If the ball gets outside the numbers on a high school field, like somebody really screwed up. Everything we do is perimeter edges, squeeze this field. and we are make them play as tight as they can. And when that ball hits, vertical, we are coming in hot. Like,

we are coming in striking inside hips and running through. So we'll overrun. We'll have bad pre-snap technique. We'll have false steps. Our linemen won't get off on the ball. We'll jump off sides. Like that normal, they're 13.

They're young. That stuff will happen all season long. We don't teach running full speed to the ball. We are not coaching that. Like, if you do not run full speed to the ball, and you do not. chase and you're not going to play. Like, that's it.

Love that. And we always tell the kids, this is not a big versus little. We have little kids who play. We have big kids who don't play. We have fast kids, slow kids. We got kids of all shapes and sizes. We don't care how good you are or whether you've ever put a helmet on before. That is not a requirement.

We don't cut. We had zero kids quit last year. The roster we started with in summer was the roster we ended with. If you show up every day willing to be coached and willing to learn, and do things to the best of your ability, we will find something for you to do. You might not be the running back. Get me juiced up right now.

But you might not be the running back. You'd run through a wall. Put me on your 13-year-old's team. We'd take you. You'd play. You'd think so? I can't find a job for you right now. But yeah, like when we, you know, we demo drills.

It's like, all right, Stu, you're the back. Show these guys the path of how we want to get to the edge. All right, Luke, he's going through the bag. He's teaching inside out, downhill, never overrun, inside hip trail. I mean, like, Luke is demonstrating and Stu's running with the ball, and I just get to stand there and orchestrate. Like, it's pretty cool. So that's your, that's clearly your day one opening speech is the full squad. You keep the full squad intact.

What is a Greg Olson half-time speech? Depends what the score of the game is. Say you're down. Say you're down seven. You shouldn't be down seven. We shouldn't be down, but we are. We have guys plopping ass, leaving their feet. So, so half-time is not finishing to the football.

Yeah, we have no patience for that shit. So, so. I'll tell you what halftime looks like for us. There's no locker rooms, right? It's grab the water. You know, one of the young seventh graders, grab the water, little carrier thing, you know, has like the six sections of the water.

Yeah. Bring it over to the bench, take your helmets off, sit down, catch your breath. We'll get them together. I coach the O-line and D-line. Like, that's my jam. I spend every day, every minute with the O-line D-line to we alternate offense, defense,

days back and forth. Most of our good kids play both ways, just because we don't enough kids. But yeah, it's offensive line. We, where our corrections, is it the front we practiced all week? Is the front different? Are we coming off the ball? Are we finishing? Or we get, you know, all just offensive line driven stuff? But then we take like a four and a half minute break because my daughter is on the cheerleading team. So we make all the boys stop and they got to watch the girls dance. So they come out and they do like their halftime routine. So like, I'm all over these

middle school kids and we're coaching our ass off. And then it's like, stop. And then I'm like dance mom. You know, I'm like dance mom watching. Talbot, good job, honey. Why the, why? We got to get firmer in our double teams and use the left. Hey, we got to set this edge, that ball. You know, and then you go back to like wearing the girls or like running off with their pom-poms. And I'm like, good job, honey, you did so good.

And then you're just like back wearing the kids out. So it's, it's a mix of both. Like, we tell the kids all the time. And we tell the parents, we, no one is going to love your kids more than us. No one wants to see your kids have more success than us. But we are going to coach the shit out of your kid. But we are going to get to the point where they trust us and they know we love them and they know we want to pour into them with everything we have.

Before you coach the shit out of them, you got to get to that level first. Because if not, it just feels like you're attacking them. And for these middle school kids, it's a different day and age now. Like, they're not used to being yelled at. They're not used to being coached. They're like, we got to make sure, like, we're not yelling at you because we don't like you. We're talking loud. It's football.

It's intense. You're across the field. We're not going to stand here. And I'm not going to signal into you. Like we're not playing baseball, right? Like, if I need to get a hold of the corner on the far side of the field, like I'm going to scream across the stadium. And everyone in the stadium is going to hear me.

But if he needs to be inside leverage because he's on a backside one receiver, like move your ass inside. And if you give up a slant, we're going to be pissed. Yeah. Right. Like, you're going to be praying for that cheerleading break at halftime. Oh, yeah.

They're like, I hope the girls haven't the dance. Hey, coach, I think they're coming out early. That's great. We'll work on the slant a little bit. He gives up a touchdown. He's like cheerily and coach, he's like, I will give you anything for this dance to go the entire half of the time. He's bribing the, he's bribing the coach in the corner.

In the crazy how different it just was like us growing up in the drills we would be doing compared to everything that you seem to be teaching with the squad now. Oh, dude. Like bull in the ring. We play duck, duck goose. What do you mean? You'd be holding the ball. You'd be holding the ball and you'd be going around the squad.

This is when we're like fifth, six, great. Oh, and like you tack and they have to chase. You take off sprint. Oh, buddy gets up sprints the other way and you just collide. You just collide. I feel so bad for the smallest kid in that circle because you know he's getting picked like seven times. That kid's going home that night. He's tired.

He's quitting. He's done. That's how you don't end up with the same roster at the end of the year's. There's a lot of basketball players made at football practice. No doubt about it. You know what? The gym's air condition. That felt good.

I didn't play much, but like no one ran through my skull. Yeah, exactly. That feels good. I get it. You talked about the parents. How you like, no one's going to love your kids more than we love your kids. They're going to trust us. You've had to have run across a Karen or two.

Yeah. And your time. How are we handling that? Our approaches, I over-communicate. And maybe to a fault sometimes, I don't do the whole, regardless of the sport, right? So you think of growing up in baseball after the game, the coach takes the team out in deep left field and it's just the coach and the kids. And then you get in the car with your kid and you're like, hey, what coach say?

It's like, um, uh, they're 12. They don't know what just happened five seconds ago, let alone relay an adult's message, good or bad and relay it. So like, I never want the parents to be dependent on the kids to know what I'm saying to their kids. So we do our post game stuff right there behind the dugout. I want everyone to come. I want people to come to our practice.

I want parents to sit in the stands. I want people to know. what we're saying to your kid, we would say in front of you. Like there's no secrets here. There's no, I'm going to tell your kid one thing, but then I'm going to say something else to the parent. Like we are very transparent in what we do, how we coach. We don't apologize for it.

Like, we are going to pour in so much of our time and energy into your kids because we love it. If you have a problem, not everyone's going to like what we do. You might not like the position your kid plays or how much he plays or as they get older, obviously playing time is a little bit different. At the young age, everybody plays. Like, we don't, like, we're not in the business to play eight kids and five of them stand on the sideline, you know, sit in the dugout. So we get everyone involved to the best of our ability and give everybody a role. I'm very clear that if a parent wants to call me and he wants

to talk through, like, I have no problem with that. You're the parent. They're too young to remove the parent from the process. Now, if I was their high school coach, college, I'm not going to answer to your mom about what we're doing. Like, that's just not the business. But at the young age, you have to engage the families. I want my kids coaches to communicate with me. Where does my kid need to get better? Where is he falling short?

Where is he doing well? What's his role? Like, I would love to know that because when I ask my kid, they don't know. So like, there's a miscommunic, there's a communication barrier there. So I have no problems with our families being super engaged, be around our practices, ask questions, see how we coach, see what we do. I encourage it. I like it.

I don't want any secrets, but if you ask me a question, just be prepared for the answer. That's it. And that's the simplest way to do it. And we've been very, very fortunate that for the years we've been doing this in all different sports and different girls, boys, ages, we've had really good families. Like people that I think in the beginning are kind of, this is a lot. Like, this is. And then after it clicks and they see the spark go off in their kid's eye and all of a sudden

the kids doing things they didn't think were possible. It's like, okay, just go. Keep going because the kids that's coming home to me after each day is a better version of my kid than I had when we started. That's our goal. And whether they're a better football player or not, that'd be great. But like confidence, character, how they carry themselves. Like our families will tell us, like, for these summer workouts,

we start at 8 a.m., Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursdays all summer long, 8 a.m. at the field. These kids are up 7 o'clock in the summer. Up downstairs, breakfast made, cleats on, come on, mom, we got to go. I can't be late to practice. If we only accomplish that, we're doing a great job in middle school football. Amen, dude, that's awesome. We're looking at eight and no this year? Yeah.

I'm going on the record. Oh, this is it right now? Joe Namath. Okay. Breaking news, bust with the boys. Our goal is to win every game we play. You're not worried at all about the other eight teams that might just grab this clip. No, we have some good, no, we have good teams.

There's good teams in our league. You've known to know you're coming. Yeah. We'll be ready. Yeah. You ever watch across the field, you see one of those boys that maybe a little more developed on the other team? Yeah, and you try to get him to come to your school. Hey, hey, you want to get, we got Luke Keechley over here.

I was you play lineback. You know who that is, dude? Hey, man. That's Luke Keekly. What was a recruiting process like getting Luke on your team to coach? Easy. I give free pizza. You got Luke would.

Yeah, Luke's as easy as he gets. We go free pizza. the amount of days Luke and I sit at like we have like our Monday routine we go to launch every Monday and we sit there and it's like salt and pepper shakers all right they come out in two by two spread how are we going to get the nickel to know which way he's going to go because there's no tight end all right hey how are we going to make the big call how are we going to set the front the kids only know to set the front to the tight end side they're not going to have a tight end this week do we want to like we're sitting there the amount of time and energy we are spending on

Third hour, 13 and 14 year old football. I don't know if I'm proud of it or embarrassed by it. We got to go out for a game this year. We need to go out for a game this year and vlog it. Yeah. Could we mic you up? That would be insane. It's a Christian school.

Okay. So we... Lay the foundation. What the flip are we doing out there? Gosh, dang. Yeah. Like... Cheese and rice, guys.

Come on. So we have to be careful. I remind my dad a lot. I'm like, dad. This is not 1990 public school in New Jersey. Where did no one even, no one even hurt. You said it and it never even dawned on anyone that you dropped an F bomb. Yeah.

We got to understand. The demonstrative things that coaches would say to your face, what do you think is the worst thing a coach ever said to you growing up? I don't know if it was said. My dad one time, remember rock'em sock and robots? Yeah. Where you'd punch each other and then someone's head would pop up and that's how you'd win. my dad one time

he thought I job it was a pregame walkthrough walk through high school I was probably a sophomore junior we're just in pants cleats helmets no shoulder pads so you're out there

you got your skin tight cut off on it's cut remember we'd all like cut our shirts in like your belly no sir oh you cut your shirt 10 years ago you'd have like a you like a dry fit but even if you didn't have a dry fit you'd have like an old school cotton tea

that just cut cut in raggedy cut off so we'd only have that on you thought you were jacked you weren't yeah you saw my pictures um yeah some of us were we weren't juicing yet um so i get back to the huddle and he thought i jogged hence it was a walk through practice so my brother overthrows me ball lands i come back we we huddled with the linemen's back to the line of scrimmage and then the skill players would stand in the front with their hands on their knees quarterback would call the play facing the line of cribbage. So lineman would call and go. So he's standing next to the quarterback facing me and I'm facing out with my back to the line. And I guess I didn't answer him. I guess he didn't like my answer. I

might have given like a smart ass answer about something or any uppercutted my face mask. A buckled face mask, a buckled chin, a buckled helmet. He punches my face mask and knocks my whole helmet, chin strap and all completely rockem sock him, sock him robot in me right off the top of my helmet. so I put my helmet back on and I ran the route next time full speed. But he was my dad. So he was allowed to do that. In a jog through in pregame, we won the game. How'd you doing that game?

Tone was set. The tone was set. The tone was set. The tone was set. Yeah, no. Hey, good game. We're good. We just had to set the tone.

I love that. You dad. Your dad overcomes you. He tells you were going after. He didn't hit me in the face. He hit my face mask. So he didn't hit my head and punch me in the jaw. I get him.

That's your dad. got your back man he didn't yeah skin to skin to not happen hey but he would always tell us he's like hey sometimes i got to use you boys to set the tone here because you're mine and i don't have to answer to their mother i don't have to answer to the other kids mothers i got to go home and i'll answer but that's in my own house holy shit yeah we were it was thankfully he's he's mellowed he he has not ever punched any of the kids including my own helmets off so that's a positive yeah that'd be a tough conversation to have right yeah that'd be a tough conversation to have right yeah that'd In 2025?

Yeah. A lot of flips. You're out of there. There'll be a lot of flips. Yeah, there'll be a lot of flips going on. Thankfully, we've been good. Thankfully, we've been good.

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How heavy are you pressing on them to go to you? Not. I'm not. Are there you fans, though? Oh, yeah. We love, I mean, I would love them to go there. And if they asked me, I would tell them about my experiences there. But Miami's not for everyone. Ohio State's not for everyone, right? Like, I think especially whoever. Michigan, Michigan, Nebraska, whoever.

I mean, my point was big school, small schools, private, public. Miami's a small little private school in Coral Gables, Florida. If you drove by it, you wouldn't even know it was there. It was great for me. It was great for my competitive spirit. It was great for my development. It was great for getting me outside my comfort zone and getting me outside of my box I grew up in.

But it's not for everybody. Like maybe I went to Ohio State or Michigan or Nebraska. And that might not have been for me. So I'm a big believer. If they ask me, I tell them all the positives that I had. But like they've got to find a path that suits their needs. And they've got to find a school. So if they were ever in that position and who knows if they will or not,

like they've got to go where they can make their own path. And if it's Miami, great. But if it's somewhere else, awesome. Like, I'm not going to tell my kids where to go to school. By that point, like, they've got to start learning, making decisions. I went to Notre Dame. I signed with Notre Dame out of high school.

It lasted three months. My first ever adult decision, I got there and I was like, oh, bat, not for me. And transferred to Miami before the season even started. So, like, you've got to go through some of those, you got to go through some of those moments. You can't just tell your kid, go here, to here, to here, to hear, to hear, to hear because they're going to grow up and they're not going to have any ability to make

decisions and if they make bad decisions how do you get out of it and get to a better one so would I love them to go there of course my wife and I both went there but I don't need them to go there yeah I mean I I I feel the same but you ain't going anywhere in the big 10 my dad went to actually went to college in Nebraska midland midland Lutheran college and oh yeah yeah yeah he's got a lot of Nebraska ties but uh yeah I don't know I don't know no You don't let your kids go anywhere in the Big Ten? I'm saying that you don't have to go to Nebraska. You're going to know that I want you to go there.

But you can go somewhere else, but it's going to be outside of the Big Ten. Yeah, they're not going to Purdue. Yeah. What about Michigan? They ain't going to Michigan. They're not going to Michigan. They're not going to Iowa. Uncle Taylor.

No, you ain't going to be Michigan men. No, no. First off, let's talk about what about education? Like Michigan is a top 15 public school in the world. I think we have the most academic All-Americans in college football. the bar is pretty low if the end stands for knowledge. Warren Buffett, the Oracle,

right down the road. All right. So you guys have different parenting styles. So you let him go to Florida State? Yeah. And you put a Florida State jersey on? Here's my take on like team allegiances and stuff. Don't get me wrong.

I love Miami. I have great memories. They were a big part of my journey. Met my wife there. our family, like love Miami, everything about it. If all three of my kids went there, great. Now, it's 100 grand a year, so they better be damn good at whatever they do.

But we'll still pay for it. But like, if they went to Florida, like, I'm not that guy that's like, you cannot say the word Florida State in my house. I played for the Bears. Yeah, that's a little too extreme. The Packers are sacrilegious. You know, in Carolina, it's like, Atlanta.

I'm like, do we really give too? I just, I'm not a big, like, team rivalry guy. I like people. Now, has that been a thing that you are now? But what about when you were at Miami? What was like Florida State? You still were Zoom down enough? Yeah, I mean, the Florida State game was huge.

Don't get me wrong. But, like, when you're in that moment, that's all you know, it's you and your boys. You drink the Kool-Lade. Like, you were fully invested in 80 global levels. But I'm just saying now, like, taking a step back and removing myself, like, Mario Cristobal is the head coach at Miami. He was my tight-end coach. He recruited me when he was at Rutgers with Greg Shiano when I was in high school.

I met Mario when I was a 16-year-old kid in high school. I went down to the Miami camp. He went to Rutgers with Greg, recruited me there, ended up coming back to Miami and was my position coach. Now he's the head coach. When he was the head coach at Oregon, I took my boys out to Oregon and spent some time with him and they all wore duck stuff. And was I a die-hard Oregon fan? No, but when they were playing, would I cheering that Mario had a lot of success?

yes. Like I cheer for my people. I cheer for I've gotten to know Ryan Day. Am I a diehard Ohio State fan? I'm not. I've never cheered for Ohio State. Ohio State beat Miami in that big national championship game and I was in high school and I hated it and I wanted Miami to win. But like I like Ryan Day. If Ryan Day tomorrow was the coach at Michigan or if Ryan Day went and became the coach at Ashkosh school, I'd want him to do well. I'm just not like so wrapped up blind into program and team and this. Like, school like my kids wanted to go to florist state that'd be amazing that's just i don't know i'm just that's just how i'm wired there's no right way to there's no right way to parent you can't judge other parents yeah i feel them on the relationship stuff but when it just comes to the kids going somewhere so who like who's the like the no brainer school your kids come home daddy daddy i'm so excited i just got my acceptance letter to here and you're going not happening like where iowa iowa would be one it would be yours yeah so you're So your kid comes in a couple years.

My kid, if Bustin with the boys were still had any type of relevance or if I could still do any damage on the internet, if my kid wanted to go there, they will publicly know where I stand. And Husker Nation will know. When the battle for the border is happening, they won't see me in black and yellow.

Would you pay, would you pay, would you still pay the tuition? If they said, Daddy, I love you. Do you have boys or girls? Girls. If you think you're telling you're fucking. Yeah, I know. How old?

They're young, right? Yeah, they're young. Roos three. Okay. Where's the fucking camera? Let me just, I'm mark, mark this day right now. This guy's so full of shit.

Because he has, do you have two daughters? Do you? Yeah. He's got two daughters. And if he thinks for one second, the 17-year-old daughter who comes in and gives Daddy a hug

and her Iowa acceptance letter comes in the mail. And it's her dream because her and her best friend are going to go there and room together and join a sorority and they're so excited. If you think for a million years, he's not writing that tuition check and giving her a hug and saying, I'm so proud of you, honey,

you're my baby girl. You're so full of shit. Because guess what? They're going and you're writing the bill and you're going to fake a smile and you're going to be there. You're going to be in Iowa City and be like, yeah, you know what?

This place isn't half bad. I'm happy for you, Citi. Listen. I'll go by an Emmy lines, but I'm wearing red. Listen. That's fine. Here's my final way. Don't tell me how to live my life.

This is my final take on this. This is my clearest way I can put it. If my kid said, dad, tell us where to go. It's down to our final three. We love them all. And Miami's in the mix. Obviously, I'm saying, let's go to Miami. Like, it's amazing.

It's like, yes. But if they came to me and said, Dad, Miami's just not for me. Like, I didn't, like the campus. I want to go somewhere bigger. I want a state school. I want, yeah. Whatever the, they and if it was Florida, Florida State, Michigan, Alabama or a community, whatever it was. Great. Go to college. Go learn. Be live your life. Get a degree. Make mistakes. Learn how to take care of your frickin dorm room. Yeah. Just I don't know. Like I didn't. I'm paying the bill wherever

they go as long as they're good kids. And I think too, like if if I had a son and he was good enough to go play college or whatever. I think a lot of it that would, I would think about two is like who's coaching them. Yeah. Like when I said to No Big Ten, it's like if they came back and they're like, you know, Coach Laining, Oregon offered, then you know in Coach Lainting. It's like, hey, that's a guy. That's a guy you want to be around.

Yeah. That's my point about people. A guy you want to go play around. Who else have we been around? I mean, Sharon Moore. I mean, even Dillingham. Yeah, Dillingham is a great dude. Yeah.

Oh, really a lot of the guys we've came across. You kind of can tell. I would feel a little bit different. If my daughter, if my daughter wanted to go to ASU. I'd have a harder time with that. Yeah, I was going to say. I'd have a harder time with my daughter going to ASU. Arizona State.

But like for me, son? I would tell him the same thing. I would tell my son, but listen, I'll ASU. If you ask my daughter. You're going to see a lot of beautiful girls. That's the reason why daddy didn't go to ASU. I'm from Arizona. I went down those streets.

I've been down Mill Avenue. And I've looked both ways. I didn't know which way to look because there's so many beautiful girls. That's why daddy went to Michigan. That's why daddy chose not because daddy wanted to go. to the NFL. That's what I would say. This is what you're telling your seven. That's what I'm telling my son. My daughter, so when we're having the conversation, I also have two girls, seven and four. I got a daughter. Daddy, I got one daughter too. So it's,

daughters are different. Yeah. My daughter, I, I've told the story of multiple times since this happened, but we're watching playoff hockey. And my daughter, my oldest daughter, she's not like, she's, she could be athletic. She's just, she's seven. I'm basically telling her, she's not very competitive, which is totally fine. But we're sitting there watching playoff hockey together and I'm like, sweetheart, you have the gym. You have the gym. genetics. You have like the ability like your mom's athletic, your dad, you know, you've seen the Wikipedia. I've showed you the highlights. Your dad's a dude. Yeah. That was a great corner. Right. Exactly. I was like if you wanted, you could play sports like you could get your school paid for you.

You could do all these things. Like you could really make something if you wanted to do this. And she sits back in this chair and goes, you know, them? I think I'm just going to be me. And that was the moment I was like, I'm not going to press her at all anymore about sports. Because she was always like daddy. You're always talking about sports. I'm like, yeah, because it's really all daddy knew growing up. So like obviously I'm going to try to get you into these things. But now that I know that, so if we're having the conversation at 17 years old and she has an acceptance letter from Ohio State and she's like, I want to go to Ohio State, I'm thinking, why would you want to go there? It's not a predominant, like educational school. Like it's not anything like that.

Michigan top 15 public school. You want to go to somewhere like there. There's a lot of other places. But if she wanted to go to Ohio State, I'm bent in the knee. I'm bent in the knee. We all sit. It's just the way it goes. It is the way it goes.

But I'll tell you one thing I will say, though, about. girls. I'm further down the year oldest is seven. My daughter is 12. She'll be 13 in the fall. So I got twins, boy girl twins. They'll be 13. They'll be seventh graders and then my oldest son is eighth grade.

So boys and girls very different, maturity-wise, whatnot. She wanted nothing to do with sports until probably like two years ago. Played like little soccer or with their friends, but like there was no training. There was no practicing. There was no going

out in the driveway. Like, she had no interest. So it was pretty much just the boys that were our sports experiences. About two years ago, she played for a little school basketball team, took a liking to basketball, started going out and like venturing into some more of like competitive basketball role. So now she's, when the boys do basketball training with the guy, like, she's out there with the boys doing basketball training.

She's in the gym. She prexes. She just went out for the track team at her school. Me and her just drove to Greensboro for the Adidas outdoor track and field. last weekend. And she's competing against some of the best girls in the country.

Granted, she's sixth grade. Not that she's winning, not that she's the best or anything. But like, all I would say is for the girls, sometimes the competitive side doesn't, at least in my family, it came out a little bit later.

When the boys were little, it was run around with a football in their hand and let's go play catch and daddy, let's go hit off the tee. It took her a little bit longer, fifth grade, give her take, fourth, fifth grade. But now she's as competitive

and as strong and as driven and as much of a dog as anybody. Like she is a horse. That juices me up. So don't give up on it. Yeah, don't give up on it.

I think a lot of it seems probably like... No, we didn't press her. Like, we had, we never in a million years thought she was going to really get much into sports outside of just like recreation, fun, soccer, or whatever. Yeah. But she's competitive. Like right now, like literally as we speak, my wife's taking her and the two boys, all the kids.

to, you know, Kula, you know, Brian Kula, trained McCaffrey and he works at Battleground Academy. Okay. Do you know that school here in Franklin? I've heard of him. Did you guys live in Nashville? Yeah, we live. Okay, I wasn't sure. I'm naming all these Nashville.

Anyway, so like they came down here. He's like a great track and field coach. Like, that's his specialty trained Anna Hall and McCaffrey and all these people from Colorado. He moved to Nashville within the last couple months. So like, they're there. She's there doing a hurdle workout with him, learning how to run. hurdles and they're going to do a speed day. So like she'll work now. Like she'll get after. Like a lot of it too with like young kids has got to be just feeling confident. Like maybe they're

a little insecure. They kind of shy away from maybe doing a sport because they, they don't know if they're good at it yet. I just like the idea too. It's like when you get you just getting kids obviously involved in sports, but you have something that you are committed to doing a place that you have to be, a place to show up. How you show up for the world. Like how to stay, you know, start getting in those areas of like discipline and everything else. It's like, hey, if you don't like doing it afterwards, we might find something else to do for you during that season. It could be anything.

It doesn't have to be sports, but something that you can commit yourself to because at some point you're going to have to start, you're going to have to start doing that. Like when you go to school and you're committed to your grades, you're committed to whatever your things are going to be. Totally agree. And again, we all just know sports.

So that's like the only avenue I know to teach those lessons. But we know it's the best lessons. Again, we're biased. We have an idea. It's the best lessons. We're biased. We haven't been exposed to. the arts to music to like i wasn't exposed to it i think a lot of people have great experiences

doing that and i think that's wonderful i don't know that world i didn't grow up in that world so obviously our life experiences to our kids are going to be things that we're comfortable with and we recognize because we got the values out of it so like our model with that is like we're not trying to do all this to become professional athletes if we were all trying to have our kids play sports to be professional athletes we should all just stop if that's the goal you're wasting your time. You're better off spending your time and energy doing other things.

It's all the other shit. Being accountable, being on time, doing something for other people, having an authority figure that maybe you don't like or you don't think's giving you the fair end of the deal. And it's not your parents in there trying to. It's different authority figure kind of coaching you up.

Totally. You're not going to talk crazy in front of the way. Where else are you getting that? Yeah. It doesn't keep them well-rounded. Like with my kids, it's like, hey, you have to have an art, you have to have a language,

and you have a sport. And right now their sport is like Brazilian jiu-jitsu. I'm sick. My daughter wants to learn Chinese because she saw how to train your dragon The dragon of Chinese things She's all about it And then hard they're taking classes

And stuff like that So it's cool to see these things That I know nothing about But like they're really enjoying it They're about it They have these like canvases sitting outside They're always painting and doing stuff It's just really it's cool

Because I'm like learning as I'm going too Totally. I would love my kids to be like that Like we stress trying to be well-rounded And then like I take a I take a look at myself And I'm like And you're there on a Monday with salt and pepper

Yeah, what do you do other than sports? So, like, I growing up, like, we did sports. Right. Like, we didn't go camping. You never went hunting. I can't tie a fishing line. I'm not the guy to call. Like, I always joke.

Like, the kids are, like, can we go fish in the lake? I'm like, yeah, let's call Luke. He lives around the corner for me. Like, Luke's the guy that needs to come put the lure on. Luke needs to come when your spool gets tied and nodded. Like, you don't have a dad that's good at that shit. But if you need a dad to come coach your team and you want to be good at that, like, I can be good at that.

Yeah, I can do that. I can help that. But outside of that, like, I'm not the guy to teach you out of pitch a tent. Yeah. Yeah. I know we have like three minutes before we have to get out of. So we have a couple questions. Let's go.

Broadcasting. You've obviously, you do, you crush it. You're very, I'd say the way you're able to express yourself to the viewer that's listening that might not a whole lot about football when you have a wealth of knowledge, you do a great job of letting the casual viewer understand the game of football in those three hours you're sitting in the booth. Thank you. Tom Brady comes in.

There's been a whole lot of. whole lot of conversations about Tom Brady, he gets thrusted in this role. Is there like a rivalry type of thing between you two? I know you've commented a little bit about it. But how do you feel when all this stuff is going on? And you've kind of put a lot of work in. And Tom being Tom kind of gets thrust it up to the top right away. Yeah. And again, it's not something that I've shied away from and I'm happy to talk about it and be honest with it. The simplest way to put it is like anybody, you guys in your world wanting to be at the top of the charts and you want to, that doesn't mean these other people aren't your buddies. It doesn't mean that you're

not also pulling for them to have success. Like everyone who's motivated to be a high achiever in any industry, whether it's in the podcast world or whether it's in broadcasting, whether it's in coaching, athlete, whatever. Ever since I've been little, I've always wanted to be good. Whatever I'm doing, I want to be good at it. And I'm going to do everything in my power to be as good. I'm never going to be the best. I don't have to be the best at it.

But I'm going to be whatever my best is, I don't, I don't really have, I don't know how else to do it. I don't like doing things that I'm not particularly good at. I don't enjoy that either though I am going golfing. But like, so when it comes to the situation with Tom and the games, I was very lucky that in my second year, the things went down the way they did with Joe and Troy leaving, that me and Kevin got promoted to being the top number one team.

And it happened to be a Super Bowl year. So we were going to call that Super Bowl. We called the Philly Kansas City game. But we knew going in that Tom, Tom had signed a few. future's deal in essence to be to be determined whenever he was done playing when he's going to start it but he had a deal on the table before i got elevated from the two crew with kevin to the one crew so that was the order of events of how all that went down so i knew going in i was going to call

the a crew for a year and past that was tbd it ended up being two years so i got the super bowl year one additional year and then tom came i really enjoy broadcasting i love love football. I love talking ball. I love talking to the guys. I love learning. I've learned more as a broadcaster about other aspects of football that maybe I didn't, wasn't as privy to playing in the last five years than maybe been 14 years of playing. I enjoy the process of learning. I enjoy the process of presenting the game to an audience in a fun way, in a cool way, maybe ways they're not used to hearing, whatever that is. Tom and I's relationship both professionally and personally is really good. But like, we've gone, I've said this before,

like, we've spent the day golfing together. He sent a hype up video to my team before their first middle school game last year, which was super cool. And the kids lost. We lost. Jesus. Tom.

Need a better video. We're going to redo it this show. We're going to reset. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to, I'll text. It's a bad case where people say, you guys don't have beef because you guys did lose that game. So that's really where the animosity comes from.

It's not taking my job. It's that we lost the game. I got a couple hype videos out there if you ever need somebody to step in. No, F bombs. Just flips. I got you. Just flips. Christian school.

Christian school. Kid friendly. But like, you know, we've spent a lot of time on the phone, you know, talking broadcasting, but also talking about raging teenage daughters. Like, we have a lot of other things in common that we've, we've formed a better personal relationships since he's joined Fox than we had when we were both playing. We knew each other.

We'd see each other before and after games. It was a very casual professional relationship. Me and him have spent a lot of time together, a lot of time talking professionally, a lot of time personally. I have zero animosity for Tom. I don't sit there saying I hope their broadcast stinks. I hope at all. That is independent from my personal aspirations of I want to take this to the highest level I can.

I want to call Super Bowls. I want to get to a top crew. I want to continue to elevate and see how high in the industry that I can get. Those things can both simultaneously exist. My ascension individually does not have to come at the expense of him. It does not have to come into animosity towards him. if he has a long career in this industry, so can I. Those two things are not.

So that's the way I look at it. I'm going to go in this year to hopefully have a great year and continue to present the game in a fun way. I have a great crew with Joe and Pam and my crew at Fox is awesome. And I hope to do this for the next 20 years. And what that looks like, I don't think, you know, what does this look like for 20 years?

No one knows. But that's my approach towards all of it. Love it, dude. Our very last question. You know, people would do anything for a Bud Light. What would you do anything for? Can't say family. I feel like if he did say family, he'd have a very good answer.

If he wanted to go that route. Doesn't have to. Yeah, I mean, family, I think, is probably at the top of everybody's list, right? Like, you would go to the end of the earth for your kids. And, you know, for as much as sometimes they aggravate you and they frustrate you. And, you know, they don't want to listen. At the end of the day, when you take a step back, man, that's what all of it's about, right? It's about your family and your wife.

and your kids and giving them a better, giving them a better opportunity than maybe you had and paying it forward and, you know, hopefully they go on to make great impactful lives. Like, I think that'd be everyone's cliche answer, even though it's the truth. I mean, professionally, I would probably give anything to go back

and be able to replay our Super Bowl. So 2015, we were 17 and 1. We won 15 regular season games. We were, we ran, we had a tight game in the divisional round against Seattle. We were up 30, nothing at halftime. ended up having to recover and on-site's kick. We didn't score in the second half.

Russell Wilson almost brought them back and beat us. We won. We blew the doors off Arizona. We scored 45 points in the NFC championship game. So, I mean, we had scored almost 90 points collectively between the divisional. It's a great picture. I look thrilled in the back. You know, so I look back on that season and there's a little like, wait, that was a wasted moment, right?

Like we were on the cusp of the most wins ever for a Super Bowl team in NFL history. We would have been 18 and won Super Bowl champs. No team had ever won 18 games and won the Super Bowl. And we were the best offense in football and we shit down our leg. We were terrible. We turned them all over a bunch. We didn't score. I think we scored 10 points.

We were averaging 32 a game. We scored 47 against who was the next best team. Record-wise was Arizona that year. I think they won 13 games. We beat them 45 to 17. I mean, it was a bloodbath in the NFC championship. But as you guys know, you get one shot. It's not best to five.

It's not best to seven. I would give anything not to win the Super Bowl. Like go back and just play it one more time. And maybe we were to lost again. I don't know. They were damn good. Denver was good. Knowing your mind frame about like effort,

finishing. Like if you're not going to do that, you're not going to play for my Papa Warner team. Yeah. It goes to your mind when you see Cam Newton, double clutch on that fumble. You know, I think to the outside world, and I mean this sincerely,

this is not me covering for Cam. If every guy I've ever played with, if there was ever a guy that you did not have to question his physicality, his toughness, his competitiveness, it was Cam. That's what a lot of, and that is not a cliche cover for him. Like, if he pulled up in the moment for that ball,

and he's talked about it. He's like, man, if I could go back, that's probably, I've heard him talk about on his podcast. Like in the moment that was not, I'm scared to go get hit. I'm scared to go dive down on the ball. There was a, as we all have been there in time, your reaction to what you see in the moment and feel and you're, it's hard to really even quantify what you do.

You react for 10 years. I watched that guy put his life on his body, his life, his career on the line in big moments, in meaningful games, in Wednesday practice, in training camp, all between. if there's one people want to knock him for a lot of things fine you you cannot knock him for not being competitive for not being tough and when it came time to going out there to play that dude played

his ass off every day he was unbelievable every day buddy and create a player you wish you would have said he would have traded in his MVP for a Super Bowl that's a longer conversation but short Short answers, yeah. I would rather he traded his MVP for a Super Bowl. No, I, I, again, there's always context with Cam. And those of us that have spent a lot of time with him, always can view the things that he says that maybe to the outside scene, but we're viewing it through a lens of 10 years,

now 15 years of being around him and really knowing him intimately, how he, how he thinks, how he responds, how he body language, all of it. Like, we have a very keen idea. of his good days is not like we really understood what made him tick and and he was the pulse of the team he was the he was the center of the locker room he was everything everyone saw from the outside that was genuine like he was like that he would run for a touchdown on the last play of inside run period on a Wednesday in week 16 we would have to make any quarterback pull play the last play of the period because if we were running it from the say the minus 30 and that

was just where the ball was marked. He would run 70 yards to the goal line, and he would put the ball on top of the fence, like he scored, and it was like him handing the ball to the stands, like that was his touchdown thing. He did that in practice 100% of the time for 10 years. We would have to change the script

and make sure that any play he would have the ball was the last play, because if it was play three, we'd have to wait for him to run 70 yards back and call the next play in the huddle. So when he was running, running back, the defense would go and we were off the field and the defense would do their period. And by the time he came back, it was time for seven on seven or whatever the period was.

Like that was every single day. So when he talks about MVP versus winning the Super Bowl, I think the point he's trying to lay out was he took such great pride in the season he had that year, winning MVP on clearly the best team up until the Super Bowl. The end versus there's a lot of guys that have won Super Bowls, but didn't have nearly the level of impact that he had as the reason you want. There's a lot of guys who have Super Bowl rings and were on Super Bowl winning teams. But that, in his, again, his message was, that's a big difference between I won our team a Super Bowl. I was one of the big factors of winning our team a Super Bowl. Right, wrong, or different. I think that's the lens that he was trying to present that by, but like, I think we all would

be like, hey, Cam, we love you to the end of the earth. But if we could have won a Super Bowl, you're going to have to take that one for the team. Yeah. I love you and you're my guy forever, but like, you're like, I lose Super Bowl. Yeah, let's go take that. We're going to have that. You were still great.

Yeah. You were still great. But yeah, man, it's a, so yeah, that would probably be, that was tough. Like we, and we never could find it again. You know, we had almost the same exact team in 2016 and I think we won six games. Yeah. You hear about guys that are young that make the playoffs early and they kind of like losing the divisional round or losing the,

the championship round and older guys like just so you know it doesn't always go like this you never know until you know because we we in 19 we went the a fc championship and we had essentially the same you guys you guys right here i know you're like to finish you're good i do love that you're good you're good to round of pause great awesome i sit here all day with you guys Taylor it feels like on maybe 70 percent of pods like at 2019 that he was that was that was our 2015 that you got to bring up as much as you can you have 10 points on the Chiefs. 80% of the time,

Willis wants to bring up his pick six in the Capital One game against Georgia. But he goes team up 13-7. You know what my favorite? Are we still rolling? Yep. Can we just address the elephant in the room? Yeah.

Me and you have talked about this, but I don't know if we've talked about this on the open forum. You don't like when you hear a story about your former self and you look back and you're like, don't love it. Like, not proud of it.

Brought me in the moment, didn't react. When I, what is this? This must be our, Oh, you just don't. Oh, tackle eligible. Do you score?

Did I? I got tackled on the one in that stadium one year. He came to tell you guys. You've told this story. We're playing each other. You're with Washington. And you knock a ball away from me. You just had like a little, like a little hook over the middle.

Or whatever. And you come through, broke on it. And you gave like the typical, like, it was a four-yard knockdown. I webbed him like Spider-Man. He gave me webs. He gave me, like. like full on. He was cut throat.

I mean, it was like every celebration a defender's ever done. Gotta get him when you can. Gotta get him how you can. So I just remember, and it was like the first quarter. It was not like third down game on the line. It was like the game started at one.

They ended up killing us that game too. The game started at one. I think this completion was like at 107. Nobody was even in the stand yet. And he's webbing me, Spider-Manning me. He's got all sorts of wristbands on. I mean, he's got a lot going on.

And I just remember turning around, and you've told the story. And immediately after I said it, I was like, God, that I felt real. Like that shit, that felt bad. I wasn't a shit talker, never really got into stuff with, like, my kids asked me all the time. Like, Dad, did you ever talk shit? I'm like, the whole game, all I could think about was catch my breath. And when do I get to go sit back on the bench to like regroup? Like, I had no time or energy to be into like piss and matches between plays.

I was exhausted. But not on this day. I was a say. It was early in the game. I was full of piss and vinegar, you know. And I turned around and I remember and I was something along the lines of like, Who the fuck are you?

Third string? At this point, I had some good years. Like, I was pretty productive and I was like, maybe feeling myself too much. And the second I said it, said it, he kind of looked at me with like that like, really, dude? Like almost a whole.

I say, man, I'll work for this spot. And I remember, so we get off the field and we come back on and we're in like a TV timeout. Yeah. And I was like, I just, it didn't fit. I don't know. I don't know why I felt. I was like a little pussy.

I guess I felt, I don't know. I was being sensitive in the moment, I guess. And I walked over and I was like, hey man, like, we're good. I shouldn't have said that. Yeah. Good play. Sorry about that. And Will was like, no, man, we're good.

We're good. You know, but like, and when you told, now, years ago, I hadn't thought about it. Like, I hadn't thought about it. Like, I hadn't thought about after. But when you told that story, however many years ago, on here and I heard it I was like I heard that was fucked up like I shouldn't have done that I was not proud so I just want to address it in front of the boys yeah all of you guys like that's how me I'm I'm proud that I fixed it in the moment I felt good about that but like

you were busting your ass and you earned that spot and that was not for me and it's the it's the shit talking moment I remember I wasn't proud of it yeah when you told that story I was like yeah that was fucked that guy bust that guy busts that I was like the amount of shit he probably overcame to be in that spot that day to play like I can't take that for him I was like that's a whole other three hour podcast we'll catch that episode too

but anyway I just want to make sure we're on the record here in front of all the boys like that's on me that's big that's on me dude love having you man you don't make your tea time we could have done this forever yeah appreciate you guys let's get a photo real quick

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