Bussin' With The Boys - Howie Roseman On AJ Brown Trade + Cooper DeJean, Lane Johnson & Jordan Mailata Talk Eagles Fanbase

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Recorded: August 6th 2025 | The Boys are in Philly for the final stop of our training camp tour. We start off with the Eagles GM, Howie Roseman, plus Cooper DeJean, Lane Johnson, and Jordan Mailata. W...e kick things off with Howie telling an all-time Marcus Mariota story of getting his career back on track before diving into his Philly journey. He gets into all of the drama surrounding Carson Wentz, and how he drowns out all the noise from the Philly faithful. Howie then dives into the blockbuster AJ Brown trade with the Tennessee Titans. He talks what was all going on behind the scenes and how close the trade got to not going through. Howie gets into some of his biggest mistakes along with how tough it is to keep his entire staff from getting poached Then Cooper DeJean hops on to talk his breakout rookie year and finding his place in the DB room. We get into his draft process, NFL Top 100 reaction and his favorite play of the year, which may surprise you. The boys bring up Coop's new podcast "The Exciting Mic's" and how that his been going for him. Keep a look out for the boys joining Coop on the pod. Finally, Lane Johnson & Jordan Mailata roll through. Jordan shares his wild path to the NFL from starting in the international program to being a staple on the Eagles offensive line. Lane talks his time with the Eagles and how much longer he would like to play. The guys get into some "rookie hazing" that the o-line does for the new guys as well as the Eagles Christmas album with Jason Kelce. The boys loved their time in Philly and wish nothing but the best for the boys who hopped on the pod. Big hugs and tiny kisses. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro1:33 HOWIE ROSEMAN INTERVIEW STARTS1:48 Helping Marcus Mariota4:22 Being In Philly For Almost 30 Years5:57 Carson Wentz Fiasco10:19 Ignoring The Philly Noise12:26 Building Relationships With Players14:34 Trading For AJ Brown20:45 "Exciting Whites"23:11 Did He Enjoy The Super Bowl Win?27:20 Regretting A Decision30:02 Keeping Your Staff31:58 Bud Light: What Would you Do Anything For?34:10 COOPER DEJEAN INTERVIEW STARTS 34:27 Tempering Expectations?35:22 Finding His Spot In The DB Room37:28 Exciting Mic's40:07 Philly Fanbase41:21 His Draft Experience 44:16 Favorite Play Of The Year?46:41 Eagles Defense's Depth51:16 Pet Peeve Of Coach Sirianni56:50 Is He Superstitious?59:42 LANE JOHNSON JORDAN MAILATA INTERVIEW STARTS1:00:08 Jordan’s Journey To The NFL1:06:02 What Are Camp Necessities?1:07:24 Lane Transitioning To Philadelphia 1:08:05 Rookie Hazing?1:11:11 Was Jordan Culture Shocked?1:12:14 Pet Peeve Of Coach Sirianni1:15:50 Eagles Christmas Album1:18:43 Is Lane Done?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:38 Howie Roseman, Lane, Jordan Milata, Cooper DeGine. Big hugs. Tiny kisses. Go ahead, Willie. Start us off, babe. You're good. Is it working? I'm live.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Oh, yeah. Live but not live. Live but not live. Perfect. Howard Roseman, welcome to Bustin with the boys. It is an absolute pleasure having you on. Thanks for having me. For first story, we had, we sat down with Marcus Marriota in Oregon.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And he was kind of talking about his entire career and his journey, his highs and lows. But you were a staple on one of his lows where he was having a really tough time in camp. And he talked about he was doing a scrimmage in the stadium. And he was like putting balls in the ground. And there was a moment to where you pulled him aside and helped connect him with, was it a sports psychologist? Yeah, the way Marcus phrases it is that you went up to him and was like, hey, we can obviously something mentally is going on. a physical issue. Let's get you a therapist. Let's get you somebody that can help you off the field so you can succeed on the field. And he was very compliment of you basically saying you,
Starting point is 00:03:39 you say it. Like it was a moment that, yeah, that helped give him more life in his career. We watched with him. And you saw him. I mean, I think for us, it's, you put up a little bit closer to your face. I think it's easy. We're like, really, like, we're just studying movement. Like, that's what we do. Because a lot of times when we're scouting players, like, we don't know what they're being told. We don't know what the scheme is. So we got a study movement. And when you saw Marcus, you saw he could still throw the ball. You saw that he was still an explosive runner, but there was something bothering him. And so for us, all we're trying to do is develop our players on and off the field and try to get the best out of them.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And when you see a guy still has ability, but there's something going on, you've got to figure out, is it physical, isn't mental. And, I mean, that to me, the best thing we can do for our players, like, see them have success. Like, that is an unbelievable tribute. And so, unfortunately, he's in Washington. most guys to have success, you know, certainly the guys that are here. And so when you see those guys, whether it's, you know, Lane or Jordan, you're just with those guys. And think about, you know, Lane, Juko quarterback comes to Philadelphia, fourth pick in the draft. And now, like, you know, his whole life's in Philadelphia. And he'll go to the Hall of Fame playing for one team. And then
Starting point is 00:04:48 Jordan, that story. And just the way that kind of, we took him and basically said for two years, we don't care how he looks. We're going to develop him over a three-year period. He's on the roster. We're never going to cut them. And we'll see where we are year three. And lo and behold, year three, we go to Pittsburgh in the COVID year. And all of a sudden, you know, he's forced into action and playing lights out and really hasn't been off the field since. And you also see those guys off the field, you know, Lane, three kids, you know, Jordan married, you know, and you see those guys. It's pretty cool. Yeah. But you talk about like Jordan, you, you draft a guy. You say, we're going to give you two years. We don't care about that. We just
Starting point is 00:05:24 care about developing you. To be able to do that as a franchise, you have to put yourself in a position to afford having that 53rd, 52nd guy be like, we know he's not going to play. We just need them. You guys have done such a great job in the draft. What are you some things about you that have set you apart other than literally being here for 25 years? Yeah, I don't know, you know, fortunate to be surrounded by really great coaches, great players and great people throughout the building and kind of all kind of knowing what we're looking for. And if we can find talented guys who love football, who want to be developed, because this is like the only, I've only done this, I've never done anything else for a living, but I imagine you go to
Starting point is 00:06:01 different areas and they're not expecting 22, 23 year old guys to be the best at what they're doing. And sometimes we put so much pressure on young players to be at the top of their game. And we got to understand, like, they're coming to a new city. They're coming into a new league. Like, we've got to develop them. And I think for us, that's a huge part. It's like an understanding that the best is yet to come for a lot of these guys and giving the patience to know. that if we can get their best football out of them, even if it's year three, even if it's year five,
Starting point is 00:06:31 we're still getting the best out of them. And that's really good. I mean, listen, we love when they play well as rookies. You know, our guys last year's rookies played really well, which is huge. But there are, everyone's different and timing for everyone's different. So I think that that's really for us is understanding also what our coaches are looking for because I could love a player, but if he doesn't fit what we're doing offensively or defensively and we're not going to see him in positions to have success, he's not going to look very good. So I think, For us, those are all the key things that we're looking for to try to be successful. It's brutal to only have you for 15 minutes because you've been here a long time.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And I think it's sick that we get to sit down with the GM. And you've had so much success here. A lot of highs, a lot of lows. Definitely lows. And I'm super curious about you personally, what you felt like you learned about yourself during the whole Carson Wentz, where you pay a massive extension. You end up drafting Jalen Hertz, which was a huge. That came with a lot of controversy, a lot of question marks.
Starting point is 00:07:27 You're taking a shot, are you taking a shot? And then you go on to trade Carson. What do you feel like you learned about yourself during that era during that time now that it's in the past? Yeah, I think it goes back to really starting with Coach Reed. And we had an unbelievable staff. I think eight of his assistants ended up being head coaches. So yeah, the experience of working with all these guys, you know, Harbaugh, Spag, Schumer, you know, just naming a few Childress. All these guys who were kind of learning from him and kind of growing together.
Starting point is 00:07:57 the same in a front office, you know, Jason Light, John Spitech now, Brian Grigson, Matt Russell, Tom Heckert, all these guys that we were, I'm sure I'm forgetting a few, that we were together through that part. And we were really like just picking each other's brains and really trying to learn and develop together. And we had a lot of success, but we really never got over the hump. And so we had lost five championship games during that period of time, which was hard. You know, and really only a four championship game. in the Super Bowl. And so there was a lot of adversity and just watching how Coach Reed dealt with it and how he dealt with everything that was going on and always just keeping fighting and keeping getting back to work and continue to prioritize what he thought were the main things in building the football team. And then, you know, when he left, myself having adversity because I was very fortunate. We were winning and I was with people that I knew for a long time. And then, you know, I had a public adversity and, you know, I got my legs kind of cut out from me and had having a chance to reset and learn a lot about myself and understand that when I had the job, I got it really young, was I doing
Starting point is 00:09:05 the things that I really believed in, my vision for building a football team, my vision just around myself with the right people. And I looked at it and I realized quickly that I wasn't. And I just really spent the year going on a journey meeting a lot of people, a lot of people in sports, a lot of GMs in sports, great GMs in sports, in football and basketball and baseball. I went to Europe and then also business leaders. And just I think that perspective was huge for me and understanding that every single person who's had success has tremendous adversity that they have to face. And you can't really have tremendous success unless you face tremendous adversity. And it sucks.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You know, it's not fun. But it's the price of being successful. And so, you know, then we come back and I come back in 16 and all of a sudden we win the Super Bowl in 17. And, you know, 18 and 19 are pretty good. we get our ass kicked again in 20, you know? And with that was the decision where we drafted Jaylen because the quarterback's most important position in sports. And unfortunately for us, we had been in seven playoff games and I think Carson had played nine snaps, you know, and our backup quarterbacks are playing in playoff games. Our back of quarterbacks were playing
Starting point is 00:10:14 in the Super Bowl, you know? And so for us, we need to make sure that position was right because we had a good team. And, you know, what we went through that year, I think it really helped build this next version of our team that had success and going in 22 and losing in the Super Bowl, heartbreaking loss in the Super Bowl. I mean, heartbreaking loss in the Super Bowl for all of us. Myself included. I thought it was bullshit. You think that was a hold? You know.
Starting point is 00:10:43 It don't matter. Yeah, there we go. I beat myself off. We watched a film. It was a little tough. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I didn't think it was catchable pass, but, you know, that's the same.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But it is what it is. Yeah. What is? Well, I think about it every day for the rest of my life. I will, but it's okay. It's okay. It'll keep me going a little bit. But I think all of that really helped us rather on 2023.
Starting point is 00:11:07 You know, the shit we went through in 2023 as a team, the shit Nick went through and he had to go through publicly. And I think it's good for you. It's good for you. It's good for you to be humbled. This game is a humbling game. Every time you think you got something figured out, you get your ass kicked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And so, you know, that's always the humility in this game. I think it keeps you working really hard. Yeah. You hear about all the time how players, like coaches say it, up top says it. You know, it's like ignore the noise, ignore the noise. It seems like, and I mean this in the most positive way possible, Philadelphia might be the noisiest fan base of all times, in the good times and in the bad times.
Starting point is 00:11:44 For you, how do you, when things are not going away, you refer to the 2020 season. Shit's not going the way you want to go. I'm sure this fan base is losing their damn minds in a lot of ways. I think I've a dead baked potato still in my office from someone who told me to take the potato and leave. I didn't really understand that, but I figured I'd keep it a little bit. It's a dead baked potato in my office. You should frame it.
Starting point is 00:12:08 You should put a little with those little 3D glass boxes or something like that. But do you, how important is it for GM and how do you ignore the noise when maybe you're part of one of the loudest fan bases that are trying to tell you how to do your job? Well, you know, quite honestly, like I want to fight, you know, and I wish I was as big as you guys. And I could fight everyone when I get mad, but I can't. So I can't read it. I can't see it because if I do, I'm going to want to react to it. So I mean, these guys know, like I'll tell them, just tell me what I need to know. And they refer to my whispering crew of people come to me and say, hey, did you see this? They wrote this. Because it's hard not to get mad. It's hard not to be defensive. It's hard not to, you know, try to fight back. So I just, I just ignore it, you know. I won't listen to anything locally. I won't read anything locally unless I'm told about it because I do. I get emotional about it, so I just stay away from it. And I think that allows me to do what I think is right all the time. And at the end of the day, we win or we lose, you know. And that's the greatest thing about this game, about this sport, is the scoreboard matters. And so we'll be judged by what our record is, how we finish our season.
Starting point is 00:13:19 and nothing else matters. I think that's the most important thing is we got to understand, you know, if we don't win and we want to debate about the moves we made, it's not going to matter because they're not good enough, you know? And if we win, you know, that at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:13:35 that's really the most telling sign. You seem really personable with the players. Like you're rattling off Lane Johnson and his kids, Jordan, being married. For you, how much of an emotional process is it when you have to make a hard decision. Like an example that comes to mind is when Malcolm Jenkins was let go,
Starting point is 00:13:55 knowing what he means, how hard is it to weigh what a guy means tangibly, intangibly to a team versus also the business sense of cap space and everything else? And you have to make those hard calls being the GM. Because it's like a spot
Starting point is 00:14:08 that nobody really envies because you have to have those hard conversations. You know, I feel a little bit like in the Godfather movies would you rather be liked or respected. You know, you want to be both. But at the end of the day, my job, I'm not always going to be liked.
Starting point is 00:14:19 You know, the first thing we do before we start a season is we're cutting 37 guys, you know, so we're basically telling guys they're fired. So I think the most important thing we do is be honest with our players and tell them kind of where we stand at all times. And we can get close to them. I like getting close to them. I like caring about our players. You know, I feel like their fingers on my hand because at the end of the day, anyone who walks through here I'm responsible for, you know. And so if they do something good, I'm incredibly proud.
Starting point is 00:14:46 If they're going through something, I feel a part of that. that doesn't mean they're going to be here forever because at the end of the day we got to win. And I got to make some tough decisions. But if we do it with respect, if we do it with honesty and integrity, we could do those things. I mean, we had to trade a player last night, you know, who was part of our Super Bowl team and like being here. And, you know, I just tell them why we did it. And I don't have to agree with it. It doesn't mean we don't like you.
Starting point is 00:15:11 But sometimes to get something good, you got to give up something good. And I can't tell you that every time the player walks out. and there's hugs and respect. I'm sure they're upset. But if we can do that and be honest with them and tell them. And I say all the time, you know, I wish I could play in this league. I can't. But I've watched it for a long time.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And this is what I see. And this is what I'm thinking. And this is the reason we're doing it. And I think if you do that enough, it may take time. It may take a year. It may take two years. But eventually they'll appreciate the honesty. I love that.
Starting point is 00:15:44 That is awesome. How in the hell did the A.J. Brown trade? When you got that phone. At least that. Howard? Well, you know, at the time, I'm not sure everyone felt that way. You know, I think AJ, one incredible player, and he was a guy that really, we had spent so much time on going into the draft and really fucked it up by not taking him in the first round. We should have. And then you get an opportunity to bring him here and in this city and how he's fit in, and the kind of player that he is and just a different kind of receiver, you know, like.
Starting point is 00:16:18 some guys, they hate to be tackled, you know, some guys that are really hard to cover. When he put those two together, it's freak show city, you know, and that's the kind of player he is and the person he is, how he's fit in, and the things that he's done to fit into this community, him as a teammate, being named captain here. I mean, incredibly proud to see that. And so, you know, a lot of times you're bringing guys and a free agency is hard because you're bringing them into your culture. their veteran guys. It's different when there's rookies,
Starting point is 00:16:51 and you can raise them from the beginning. But, I mean, seamlessly fit in. Obviously had a relationship with Jalen before that, but having him and Devante and their relationship and seeing two guys who are selfless, they just want to win. And I think you see that. You know, if AJ has a great game,
Starting point is 00:17:06 Devonte is the first one congratulating him. When Devonte has a big game, AJ is the first one congratulating him. So it's a beautiful thing. Take me into, if you can, the war room, as those kinds of trades are going down, you're sitting in the first round, who's calling who first? Do you call the Titans first?
Starting point is 00:17:20 Titans call you first. Yeah, I mean, in that situation, John Robinson, heck of GM, you know, I feel like still should be a GM in the National Football League. You know, I understood where he was and financially what he was trying to do and really trying to figure out a way to make a win-win situation because we had a quarterback at the time on a rookie deal. The interesting thing was that we had the trade done, the terms agreed to in the morning, but we had to get a contract done with him. And so, and at the time, we started with three first round picks in that draft. We traded one for a future pick with New Orleans. We still had two.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And basically I said, John, like, if we can't get a contract done, like, we can't do this trade. Like, we can't trade you a one and a three for one year of a player. You know, we got to get a contract done first. And so we trade up and we get Jordan Davis. Our contract's still not done. And John's like, well, what are we doing? You know, what's going on here? And so after we picked Jordan 12, I think the pick we ended up trading,
Starting point is 00:18:17 was 18th between 12 and 18, I'm trying to finish the contract. And so nobody knew except a couple of people that we were even doing it because I said, imagine this falls apart. Like, I'm going to be the GM who can't get a deal done with AJ. And so at that point, when we finished it, it was about pick 14 and the deal was done. And I turned to Jeffrey and Nick and I said, we're going to surprise our room when we're on the clock. They don't know anything about it. And so, you know, when we get ready to pick, I'm just going to say, hey, guys, you know, we're picking AJ Brown, and they're all going to look at me like, what the fuck's going on, but they're going to be excited as shit. And so it was really fun. It was great energy. It was really like, I can't even get to five on the amount of
Starting point is 00:18:59 people who knew in our building because of the contract situation. It was cool. That's a hell of a story. Yeah, it was cool. Not so much fun when, you know, we're trading up getting Jordan Day. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
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Starting point is 00:21:04 When it's that big of crunch time, where you just basically get on the phone with the agent and agent, like a three-way call, be like, okay, we got to move here. Yeah, it's basically like you can't mess around. I think the longer I'm doing it, the more important it is to just be up front, you know, and just basically, you know, this high, low game, it doesn't really work. You got to really tell people where you're coming from. And so there really shouldn't be a lot of time where you're going back before you're starting high, you're going low. Like it doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Like here's what we think is good for the player. Here's what we think's good for us. Let's do something that's win-win, you know. And that's what we're really trying to do in every trade that we're doing. every contract we're doing. You know, I like it when teams, when we make trades and teams get what they want out of it too, because, you know, it's a fraternity. There's not even 32 GMs because some owners are GMs, but you look at it and you want those guys.
Starting point is 00:21:56 You want them to do well, just not at the expense of us. My last question, what is your favorite? Yeah, you heard that. So do the, what time is it? You know what? I'm okay because I got shit to do after this, so I can't sit in a, 30 minute team made in right now. So I'm, I'll tell next, but yeah. Your favorite, because that story was awesome, your favorite negotiating, your favorite negotiation win story that you look back on,
Starting point is 00:22:24 you're like, man, I'm proud of this. I'm proud of this one. I don't know. You know, I feel like at the end of the day, like anytime you get deals done and your players are happy and they're excited about the deals and they feel good about them, I feel like that's win, you know, it's never good. we're never looking to do a deal where players feel like they're mistreated or misrepresented or disrespected. There's no win in that. At the end of the day, you're then creating a culture where people don't feel appreciated and respected. So if you look at a lot of our deals on our players, they're at the top of the market. I mean, you go through our team and whether you're talking about Lane or J. Lynn or, you know, AJ, these guys are the top of the market. You know, when we're
Starting point is 00:23:09 doing them, earned, you know, they earn. the right to be that. So I think from my perspective, it's never good when when you're in a situation where people feel like they were taking advantage of, certainly not the players that you're counting on to win games to be part of your franchise. So I don't know, I feel like anytime we complete something and we get a smile from our player or they feel appreciated, I mean, I think those are the best wins. And I'm really not bullshit. I'm telling you, like, to me, you know, you have happy players. You have players that feel connected to this team, this organization,
Starting point is 00:23:44 and it gives you your best chance to win. You've done some incredible things here in your tenure, but one of the most incredible things you've done is put two white dbs in your backfield on defense. The exciting white. Incredible. Now, I know Reed Blankingship is in the last year of his contract.
Starting point is 00:24:03 What does it mean to the city of Philadelphia to have those two back together again? Oh, geez. Are we going to have the exciting whites in the backfield? You're kind of putting you on the spot. I mean, shit. We'll throw it. We'll think about $40. You think about how dumb I am that I actually let Reed become a free agent.
Starting point is 00:24:21 The guy had 412 tackles at Middle Tennessee State. I mean, 412. Think about that. I mean, that is unbelievable. And you're talking about a position that relies on instincts and ability to make plays. And we risk not getting him in the draft. And then Coop, you know, another one where it's like, you know, we're sitting there. there and we're thinking when we're picking 22 last year that he's probably going to be our pick.
Starting point is 00:24:44 We didn't think that Q would be there at 22nd, felt very fortunate. And then we just started trying to trade up. And again, those two guys and, you know, the amazing thing, unbelievable athletes, you know, unbelievable players, but even better people. And, you know, you look at our secondary and obviously we took some losses in our secondary, some veteran players who have played incredible ball for us. And we're going to miss those guys. But seeing how those guys work, how those.
Starting point is 00:25:10 those guys leads, the chemistry those guys have, as well as Q and, you know, our young guys in secondary. I think now, well, we started training camp before we signed Agba and now we just made a trade for guys who's going to be 25. I think we have three guys over 25 on our defense. And you look at our Super Bowl team in 2022, zero of the 11 starters are on our team. That's crazy to me. That's crazy. You know, thinking about 2022 and playing in the Super Bowl. And here we are starting the 2025 season and we have zero of them. Now, we haven't won a game.
Starting point is 00:25:46 So that doesn't mean it's worked out or it's good. But even just thinking about how quickly this league moves in that situation, it's just mind-blowing. But having those guys, having a bunch of these guys who played together at Georgia, the chemistry that they have, the defensive energy is unbelievable. Obviously, Vicks a heck of a coach. And I'm just really excited to see those guys play and get into action. You believe football season's here. We've been talking about it over and over.
Starting point is 00:26:12 It's unbelievable. Have you gotten to enjoy the celebrating the Super Bowl long enough? Are you ready for the season to start? You know, it's funny. You know, you talk about Philly, and I got four kids, three boys, and my youngest, about a week after the Super Bowl, was playing a travel basketball game about 30 minutes away. And, you know, his name's on back of his jersey.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And I came a little late, like, you know, we were doing free agency meetings. and my wife kind of looks at me and she goes, yeah, Carter had a little incident. And I said, what happened? And so she goes, asked him, so after the game and I don't know what happens. And, you know, he kind of played out of his mind for him. So I was proud of him because I'm a little hard on him. And I said, what happened? He goes, dad, like I get on the court and some adult yells at me, hey, Roseman, tell your dad to get to work and stop dismantling the Super Bowl team.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And I'm like, hey, buddy, you tell him. We just won our second Super Bowl. And she goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you telling this 11-year-old to say? See, I get mad. I was so mad about it. So, you know, I think from our perspective, like, it's hard to not continue to want to put your head down, work hard. At some point, you know, you'll be sitting on a dock somewhere and you'll think about all of these moments. But in this league, when you're in it, you want to maximize every moment because, you know, you got,
Starting point is 00:27:36 everyone's got an expiration date in this league, whether it's players, whether it's coaches, whether it's general managers. And so you've got to have that urgency. And the minute I lose that urgency, you know, someone else should take my seat. Yeah, I love that. You got another one?
Starting point is 00:27:50 I do before we hit the Bud Light question because I did. You brought a gift. I did. And you were saying that this is your Mezcal tequila company. Yeah. What made you want to start a Mezcal? Tell me about the process of doing it because I'm trying to not only give you a little bit of publicity, but also say thank you for the gift.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Oh, yeah. You know what? I love mescal and I would go into bars and restaurants and I couldn't find one I really liked. And I could go into a bar and order of 10, 15 to kills that I really liked, but I couldn't find a really great tasting one. And partnering with Jim Kramer, who's a huge Eagles fan, who had Mexican restaurants in Brooklyn and another guy who's a liquor industry, really superstar Tom Moss, and we have a great GM, Chuck Huggins. And we brought this mescal here, and it is unbelievably tasting. We got three different flavors, and I can't wait for you guys to try it and tell me what you think. And it's fun.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I mean, I can't tell you I'm doing a lot day-to-day with it, except when we have hard days and drinking it a little bit. You just need a little sip. The best thing about tequila, man, is it's hard days and good days. It's all enjoyable. Have you seen Deep Philly lore, the social media game? Last night, the trade happens. and you reminded me of it because you said fleeced earlier. But are you aware of the video that goes around with the mini men, Howie Clips?
Starting point is 00:29:11 Your Eagles fans are like backing you and they're like Howie does it again. And they got this video that goes around. It's just a highlight reel of you with Miniman. That looks like that picture. That video from 2005. I've seen the one with binoculars, you know. Howie Roseman does it again. He can't keep getting away with this.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Which is really funny because I was talking to Nick. and we were talking about like, you know, some of the biggest cons. And it's like, it's like when they flash to me during preseason game with binoculars, you know, it's like, like, there he is. He's like scouting the other team. And I'm probably like looking to see who's ass Nick is ripping on the sileon or something like that. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm scouting. Yeah, for sure. I love that the fans back their GM like that, that they have a go-to video that they put out there whenever you make a move.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Yeah, sometimes. That's right. Yeah, yeah. And then we have the other, then we have the other. time you know i'll be walking around around and i'll i'll see you know little kids going hey howie why did you make a trade why don't you get this guy or you know we'll hear you know i get this fucking howie you know is he going to do this fucking owie you know there's no honeymoon but you know what it makes you really uh have to have your game all the time is there ever a move back since
Starting point is 00:30:24 you've been here to where you're like the fans were right i was wrong yeah i think there's one that's pretty obvious, you know, one guy who in drafts going to the Hall of Fame and... Oh, Justin Jefferson? I'm not allowed to talk about players on other teams, but you know what? You know what? You know, at the end of the day, that's what I'm saying. Like, the mistakes kill me. Like, I think about the picks that we have and who we could have got in and, you know, the things that we did wrong. And it helps me get better. And, you know, I feel like I'm, I'm constantly trying to learn and be better and figure out wise, you know, wise. You know,
Starting point is 00:31:00 why is you make mistakes and why you're picking guys that you should have picked other guys. And so, you know, I feel like when you make a mistake and, um, and they're big mistakes, you know, the worst thing that happens is you don't learn from it. And so I really feel like, you know, if you don't make mistakes like that, we probably don't come back and, and playing two super bowls in the last three years because it really, uh, helped me understand. Like sometimes, um, you overthink things. Sometimes, you know, you're, you're looking to It's hard to fill needs in this league. It's hard to find good players in this league.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And so when you're staring at good players, you just take them. And the nature of this league, you can never have too many good players. I mean, we're trying to play at a minimum 20 games. We play 21 games. 21 regular season games, I'm 20 regular season. 21 games, including the playoffs last year. That's a lot of fucking games, you know? And depth really matters in this league.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And so when you have depth, that keep positions and guys are able to keep going, and maybe the difference between the first round by. and playing in the wild card round, which we all know is huge. And so every move we make, we're kind of going, all right, how can we tack on? How can we add more talent? How can we add more depth? You know, if we have two games where this guy's not playing, can this guy play at a high level? So maybe that's the difference between having the buy and not.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And that's how we have to think of every move. There's never a situation where you're going, we're good. You know, we're good. Only the paranoid survive. Only the fucking paranoid survive. I'm going to write that in my office. Right. You saw his eyes when you said that.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Honestly, seeing your eyes light up like that and fire. And for me, you know, you go to training camp and our scouts ask me, they go, what are you thinking about?
Starting point is 00:32:36 I go, my worst nightmare is that we let a player go and we don't know how good he is. My worst nightmare, you know, is that a guy plays five, plays in the preseason, someone claims him,
Starting point is 00:32:46 and he goes and has this great career. Like, we better know our team. Forget about everyone else in the league right now. We better know our own team. And we better know it in a way that it's the most important decisions that we make is who's here.
Starting point is 00:32:59 and understanding the strengths and weaknesses. This is my last question. We'll let you get out of here. With all the success you're having, two Super Bowls in three years, we walk outside of practice, and it's like the depth that you guys have everywhere. Like you've assembled a hell of a team.
Starting point is 00:33:14 How difficult is it for you to keep your scouting department, your OCs, your D.Cs, like what are those types of conversations when you're trying to keep a guy who is essentially going to level up their life, become a GM, become a head coach, when they come to your office and saying, hey, I might have this opportunity, when your whole goal is, right, to keep this band that you've kept together the whole time. Like, what's your selling points to them?
Starting point is 00:33:33 Yeah, you know, I've had to trick my mind a little bit on this because I used to get mad about all the people we were leaving it. And now it's like it's part of legacy, you know, when you have people around the league that consider Philly an important place in their journey and feel like it helped them get to where they were wanting to go, it's pretty special, you know. And to see guys that you care about, be able to take care of their families and feel like, you know, what I learned. something in Philly and then you see them at league meetings or you see them at the combine. It's pretty special, you know, and I don't want to lose good people. Someone we get to bring back like Joe Douglas, you know, that's a beautiful thing, you know. But I think from my perspective at this point, it's a great compliment, you know, that people feel like maybe we're doing something right, that they want to take people that
Starting point is 00:34:20 have been here in positions to help us win. And, you know, so I'm proud of that, you know, we've lost a, we lost a, we lost a, we've a bunch of people again this off season on the coaches staff obviously with coach more i lost one of my scouts who have been with me since 2001 i mean 2001 and uh that guy you talk about being life deaths births marriages so it's crazy you know but at some point you know it's it's like your kids you got to let them go you know if they have better opportunities uh to help themselves and their family and so um i i hate bringing in new people because it means we lost good people but at the end of the day, you're changing people's lives too.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Yeah. It's pretty cool. The last question on every interview that we do is brought to us by Bud Light. You know that anybody would do anything, how anybody would do anything for a cold bud light. So good. What would Howie Roseman do fucking hot right now? It's so hot right now.
Starting point is 00:35:14 It's so great. For. Can't say family. Can't say Super Bowl. You can say Super Bowl. I know. I mean, that, that's an easy. But I want to trade.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I don't want to give up draft picks. I like our draft picks. I don't want to do that. Like I feel like you guys are trying to get over on me on a trade. I feel like this is spiteful, to be honest with you. I feel like you're fucking trying to prove a point that you can do a better deal with me. You know, at the end of the day, I can I please just have a fucking beer? Is that, is that so hard to give something? I mean, do I have to give up something? Because I like everything we got going on, you know? I like our picks. I want to win games. I don't want to give any of that up. I love it. And also, Dale Earnhardt was on our podcast and he goes, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I have everything I want. I've achieved everything I want. Like, I don't need anything. Which is got to be. In the most genuine way that was like, Dale is the most genuine guy
Starting point is 00:36:06 of all time. That's like drop the mic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so yeah, you've earned it, man. You get to keep everything.
Starting point is 00:36:11 We'll give you butt light. I want more. I want more. And I can't wait to see you guys again. Next summer, be back here. Hopefully we'll make you proud during this season.
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Starting point is 00:36:40 Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about, what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
Starting point is 00:37:01 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast.
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Starting point is 00:39:47 resubscribe. It just helps us that much more. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Dejean, Dejean, is it French? No, I don't believe it's French. I think it is French. I don't believe it's French. Dejean. Is it? Yeah, I think it means of jeans. You've done it 23 of me? No. You probably shouldn't go in there. Then the government would have all your stuff. I know. Let me ask you this. That's what I've heard. Let me ask you this question. You've had, I mean, you've resurrected a position that was extinct, the white cornerback. You're drafting the second round.
Starting point is 00:40:19 You make the top 100. You win a Super Bowl. What else? Made the all-white team. You've achieved so much in your short NFL career. Do you ever think to yourself, maybe I should have a down year on purpose, which type of expectations? I don't think to myself that.
Starting point is 00:40:34 No. No, I'd rather just try to keep it rolling. You know, try to go chase another championship. Continue to be a spark plug for our defense. you know, any way that I can be. You know, being young in the league, I feel like we got a lot of young guys in our locker room, which makes our defense fun to play for.
Starting point is 00:41:02 You know, but I'm just going to try and keep it going on. At what point in your life did you look around the secondary and be like, okay, I belong here? You know, I think it started at the University of Iowa. I mean, we had a couple of white DPs that started for us. Riley Moss. We had some shout out Jack Kern or Quinn Schulte. Those guys played safety for us. You know, so I never I never really, you know, felt like I didn't belong, you know, in the defensive backfield, which is good. You know, I was, Riley Moss came before me. You know, he taught me. You know, he taught
Starting point is 00:41:47 me a lot about the position. He got drafted in the third round, started last year. You know, so he led the way for me. I feel like you're in your, correct to me if I'm wrong because I feel like you know this answer. But where does your jersey rank in sales on the team? Are you number one? I do not know the answer to that. I don't think I'm number one. No, it's surprise you. What surprised you? Do you for you know the answer? No, it wouldn't surprise me. It's number one, brother. Is it number one? No, it's not. Big Dom said that. Yeah. Big Dom goes sick. I feel like it is safe to say.
Starting point is 00:42:20 No shot. That's what Big Dom said. I feel like it is safe to say that you are two young white DBs, what Caitlin Clark is in basketball with the WMBA, both from Iowa too. And what a compliment that you just got. That's sick. Something I do want to ask, and you can be honest with us.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Do you get hype when your basketball footage gets released and goes viral on the internet, especially in the locker room. The boys always, they always bring it up whenever it gets, it seems like it goes away for a little bit and then it always pops back up at some point. At the right time. But it's pretty cool to see it again. Those are my body accounts that I rip on social media. To reminisce.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Coup, he's a couple of burners. He might just pops it off on, there's just one account that just posts that every once in. He might retweet it. Well, how's the podcast life been for you? It's good. It's a different challenge. you know, my life's been all sports and, you know, so now I'm starting to get into, like, the media side of it with the podcast. I think it's been fun because we can have our, we can have
Starting point is 00:43:28 our teammates on, you know, we've had other people around Philadelphia on and just kind of get to know them outside of football and kind of give the people in Philadelphia like a chance to to get to know them outside of football because, you know, a lot of people just know us as football players around the city. So it's good to, you know, be able to have that platform to push out that content outside of outside of football. Is this something for you that somebody approached you was like, hey, you should start this exciting white, exciting mics, that'd be awesome? Or did you see like Jason Kelsey, he's around to practice and maybe, you know, ask him a couple questions about that or who showed interest first, the public or you? I think it was kind of, it was kind of my
Starting point is 00:44:13 idea that I brought to that brought to Reed. Obviously Kelsey's got his podcast with him and Travis, you know, but I felt like it'd be cool for, for cool opportunity for me and Reed. You know, us being in such a, such a passionate sports city, you know, and everybody wants to know everything about Eagles football around around the city for us to, you know, just kind of give some, give some insight to, to that and into who we are. as players on and off the field, which has been cool. Is that something you guys are going to continue to do during the season? I am not sure yet.
Starting point is 00:44:54 We might. We haven't talked that far yet. I know we got another episode coming out. What's today? Wednesday? Mm-hmm. Today is Tuesday. We got one more episode coming out Thursday. day and then we'll see what happens during the season. We might get one in before the season
Starting point is 00:45:18 goes. We'll see. I'd like to do it during the season. I think it'd be fun, but obviously you don't want it to get in the way of football. Kind of scary though, right? Because you think about, what's the biggest fear? If you sit there and you're like every player gets paid, every player has investments outside of obviously just playing the game of football, trying to make passive income, whether it's real state guys love to play video games but like to be out there in the football season which we had to deal with when we first started yeah it's sitting there and being in front of people's faces talking about stuff while all the scenes going on and I would love for you to dive into like the fan base of Philly but are they as crazy as people make them out to be in a good way obviously
Starting point is 00:45:57 oh yeah they're they're definitely crazy in a good way um you know they definitely hold you accountable um you know you hear it I remember my first I I wasn't playing yet. This was week two. This was the Monday night football game and um against the Falcons and Sequin had, he dropped that pass on fourth down. And I remember hearing people scream from the stands like they wanted to, they wanted to send him back to back to New York after after he dropped that pass. It was and it was it was week too. Um, that's when I kind of, that's when I kind of realized like, you know, these, these fans really are invested, you know, into, into Eagles football.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And then Sequin goes on to rush for 2000. And, you know, now he's a legend in the city. Bro, they, you can just tell they eat it up. Yeah. This morning we were out, we were getting out of our hotel. Some guys, like, half drunk. He's like, hey, it's Philly. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:46:54 You're staying downtown? So there's Will in there? Yeah. It looks at well. Just give them the flex real quick. It's like, holy shit, dude. Dude, when you're, obviously when you're coming out of Iowa, everyone's excited about you.
Starting point is 00:47:06 It's like, holy shit, there might be a starting corner in the NFL. And then people were talking about a first round pick. First white first round pick. Don't mean to make this all about race, by the way. He's not a kind of game trying to play. But when you're in the draft process, like, what was it like when the first round went by for you? Obviously it was difficult. But do you have types of conversations like Tom Brady talks about following the sixth round?
Starting point is 00:47:27 He's like crying with his mom and dad holding a baseball bat thinking maybe I should have played baseball. Yeah. Like was there ever? Yeah. I mean, I was just the way the first like the first round went. for me, like, I had, this was, this was what I was scared about. I had all these people over to this place in, in my hometown and to not go in the first round. You know, that's, that's kind of why I was disappointed, just because I felt like I'd let them down, but that wasn't, that wasn't really
Starting point is 00:47:58 the case. You know, I was getting all these prank calls and stuff during the first round, which made it even, even tougher, you know, but then I was disappointed for a little. You know, but then I was disappointed for a little bit after the first round, but then, you know, that next day came and, you know, I knew I was going to go on that day at some point, you know, so I was just, I just looked at it as, you know, being excited for an opportunity to continue to play ball, you know, and I think it was a blessing in disguise, you know, ended up here in Philadelphia. You had a hell of a rookie year. What does it mean to you did get ranked in the top 100 amongst the players? It's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I mean, in the 60s, I told you out in the field. I was like, it could be a little bullshit that you're already that high, that early. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. No, it's pretty cool. You know, I guess I never really paid too much attention to the top 100 when I was in just watching the NFL.
Starting point is 00:48:59 So I don't, I mean, I guess some people, like, take it really seriously. Like, I've seen people on Twitter and all over the place. You know, they seem to, take it pretty serious but I mean I think it's it's pretty cool it's a cool honor yeah yeah it's awesome I mean your rank those are players so you sat there in December and they're all handed out the sheets yeah in the offensive line they all just do the same person for 20 and they pass yeah yeah I's gonna say I don't I don't know because like usually you just do your teammates don't
Starting point is 00:49:28 you I feel like that's how it is yeah a lot of guys do but as like Ben like Ben Jones our center he would always get we would sit there in a room be like hey who do we think the top 20 guys are in the NFL and we'd rattle them off and then we take like where there's nine guys in the room we would take that that one sheet and copy it eight times and then that that would be all of our votes oh really all of our votes see I think I think we just did it in like the the locker room and I think everybody just put each other down so we didn't take it as serious as you guys did yeah I guess what was your favorite play of the year last year favorite play of the year I mean it's got to be the like by me that made yeah probably the touchdown in the Super Bowl probably yeah that is tough to be you did have a
Starting point is 00:50:13 great form tackle yeah who was that on I think that was that was that on was that he had was it was it isn't that you guys's boy yeah that's our that's our boy dude we know what was it was shit he's big as shit that was that him yeah yeah I mean did you did you did you apologize to him after sorry mr. Henry no I did I did not happen to talk to him after he don't He's a good dude, man. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I've heard. That's what I've heard.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Don't want to get lateral with him when he's got that stiff arm ready to get. You can practice it all week, which I'm sure you did, but he ain't chopping the arm down. No, I did get him before he got gone, which is good. I mean, he had a rare catch out of the backfield. Yeah. And he was going to get a turn. He got his ass. Who was a player like this, like this past year?
Starting point is 00:50:58 You went on the feeling you're like, holy shit, that's so-and-so. Probably tomorrow chase. to Mar Chase watching him in college and Joe Burrow. I mean, really when I got here, like, lining up against AJ Brown was pretty cool. What a specimen. What a specimen is? I was a big, I was a Minnesota Vikings fan growing up, so, and Adam Thielen was a guy I liked to watch growing up because he played for the Vikings when I was younger, and I got to line up against him.
Starting point is 00:51:32 He gave me some good work. That's what I was going to say. We were talking about after practice. You said, Adam Thielen kind of gave you your welcome of the NFL moment. Yeah. He, uh, what happened? You're just like, look at us. Yeah, he just worked me.
Starting point is 00:51:44 He worked me. You just get paralyzed mentally like that's him. Yeah. Like, holy shit. This is, this is like my childhood idol who I grew up watching. No, but it was a, yeah, it was a rough game for the kid there. What week was that? Shoot, I don't even know, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:52:04 It was probably halfway through the season. I don't know what we do was. You're starting to get in the groove. You're starting to feel yourself. You're like, oh, I can play in the NFL. Yeah, and then I got humbled real quick. And it's crazy. But just a savvy vet, you know.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Another all-white team player. Yeah. Yeah. When you look at your defense, dude, like your defense align's insane. Yeah, you walk in the field and you see so many specimens. Guys that have either come from other teams, you see the second team guys. You're like, oh, that guy was a starter at X, Y, and Z. like do you realize the kind of team you guys have for this year again it seems like your depth is just wild
Starting point is 00:52:41 yeah i think uh you know how we did a great job of you know bringing guys in who you know at the positions that we lost um you know guys that are looking to to prove something and guys that are coming back um you know even hungrier you know we got a lot of young guys on our defense i think we might have the youngest defense in the league one of them um you know which is it we're which is good. It keeps the energy up. You know, everybody's hungry, you know, to be out there. But you guys, guys like Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Zach Bonn, who came on last year,
Starting point is 00:53:19 Nkobie Dean, Trott, everybody. And we've got so much depth and so much young talent on our defense. You know, it's, it makes it fun when you're out there on the field. Is there a guy on that defense? You just, I heard a couple things. I heard Jalen Carter. is a dog. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:36 And he's not one of those guys you really want to mess with. No, no. Is that the number one guy on the team? You're like, yeah, if he's in a bad mood, I'm going to stay away from him? Yeah, yeah, definitely. Never one.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Definitely. 100%. Stay away from... Talk about Quinnion Mitchell. He had a hell of a year last year as a rookie too. And talking with some of the staff, they talk about what a pro he is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:55 But what makes him such a pro? What's his routine? What's his mentality like? I think, you know, he's the same person every day. comes in, you know, and just does his work. It doesn't say a whole lot. You can get him out of a shell a little bit.
Starting point is 00:54:13 He's funny when you can get him out of his shell. But if you guys listen to his interviews, like he's, I don't think he's a fun guy to, like, listen to in his interview because he says the same things over and over again. Just because I don't think he really cares for that stuff. He's just focused on football. Like he literally, you don't, you don't ever see him, you know, outside the building. You rarely ever see him like out anywhere, like getting food or just anything.
Starting point is 00:54:44 He just sits, goes home. A hermit. Chills. He keeps to himself. But he's definitely an interesting cat. Not somebody you have on exciting mics. Oh, we already had him on. We already had him on. We got him. So this is where the experience comes in. We got him out of his shell a little bit, which was good.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I think the people needed to hear that. See it a little bit. If you could have one guest on exciting mics like, who's your white buffalo? Can't say us. Can't say us. Probably LeBron James. LeBron.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I'm a big LeBron guy. Or Tom Cruise. Tom's solid. Top Guns like my favorite movie. The first one and the second one. See, that's tough. I think the second one has a little more thrill. You know, but they're close.
Starting point is 00:55:34 They're close. I'd rank them one and two for my movies. Your all-time favorite movies? Yeah, 100%. I love Top Gun. I went and watched the new Top Gun like five times in the movie theater. Yeah. In the theater.
Starting point is 00:55:47 In the theater, yeah. Respect. To see it that many times? I mean, Tom is the man. The Dark Night is a great movie also. Phenomenal movie. Dark Night Rises also. Is that number three for you?
Starting point is 00:55:57 Yeah, 100%. The Dark Night. What's number four? Let's just keep this train rolling. You're a comedy guy? You just like these serious suspense movies. I like the suspense. I like the military style movies too. Like Den of Thieves.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Have you ever seen Den of Thieves? Good movie. Good movie. Didn't they just make a second one? They did. I don't know. There might be three now, actually. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I like them. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. we created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?
Starting point is 00:56:36 Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
Starting point is 00:57:00 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Lights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered. SportsSlice brings you closer to the action
Starting point is 00:58:05 with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs.
Starting point is 00:58:26 And on the Renee Stubbs' tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening. at Roland Garris, every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Jenchian win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win
Starting point is 00:58:48 on any surface, because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of I Heart Women's Sports. Military-style movies, the action. But Top Guns, by far, my favorite. Have you seen The Patriot?
Starting point is 00:59:14 No. Mel Gibson? I'm not. Buddy. I'm not a crazy movie guy, so. Fair, fair. But it's like, I guess it's like the earliest form of military movies. And it is one of those movies you watch.
Starting point is 00:59:26 If you doubt. I'll check it out. I could not be the best. You'll wash that. Yeah, we'll actually check that. We're awesome. Coach Siri. Oh, yeah, go ahead. I was getting excited about the Patriot. That's my bad. You go ahead. Coach Siriani, your favorite thing about him and a pet peeve you have with him. Oh, no. I don't know if I can do that. Pet peeve? You have to. You have to.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Favorite thing about him. He loves winning. Loves winning, hates losing. very passionate, very detailed, very detailed in the way he coaches. You know, sometimes he's like extra detailed, extra, extra detailed. Like in the team meetings, you know, he calls everybody out on everything, you know, that either you did wrong or you need to do better, which is good. I love that. And he also points out the good, too, which is awesome.
Starting point is 01:00:33 You know, but I think he's a great coach. You know, he loves to talk his talk, which is something that gives you confidence as a player, I think. How about that pet peeve? There's an AB question. Let's get to be. The pet peeve. What's a pet? So, yeah, Rable, he'll, he's a Matt Collins.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Oh, he thinks he thinks Brable's gotten a little soft. Yeah. You can tell he wants to lose it, and he kind of hardises it in. He wants him like, hey, let it go. His term was the pacification of America has rubbed off. Yeah, yeah. Because it's so new. Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:11 But everyone's got it. Like, you know, you're in the locker room. A head coach does something, and then you guys all walk in the locker room, and someone's mimicking or joking about whatever the team keys or some sort of thing he always says. I think with Green Bay, LaFleurves, like sometimes with the speeches. Yeah. He's got some interesting speeches. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:27 How is Siriana with his speeches? To be honest, he really doesn't, like, give crazy speeches. Like, he, like, every time in the locker room, like, before games, he'll just, he'll walk in. He'll usually say, like, the keys. Sometimes, a lot of times he'll say the same tough detail together, break that down a little bit, and then it'll be on the players to bring it up and say something. It seems like you guys are really like a, player-led team in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Who are some guys besides yourself that stand out quite a bit to you from a leadership standpoint? I mean, Hertz, obviously the quarterback. You know, he's a good leader. AJ,
Starting point is 01:02:10 Sequan. Sequan's probably one of the best teammates I've been around. You know, in my time playing football. Just a down-to-earth dude on the field. And he's a lot of fun to play against. Off the field, he's just really, really fun to talk to.
Starting point is 01:02:29 He always has some interesting conversations. I don't know if you guys are talking to one today, but he'll get, he can get into some crazy stuff, you know, which is always fun, especially during camp, you know, to kind of break up the football stuff. You kind of just talk about random shit, you know, in the training room, which is, which is fun.
Starting point is 01:02:47 So he's, he's that guy. Reed, obviously, has been a great leader. not only for our defense but for me, you know, since I got here, he kind of took me in their swing, you know, which is pretty cool. It's good to know that Siriani, you have no pet peeves of Siriani. Yeah, I mean, seems like a pretty flawless. I'm only a year in, so. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:03:10 I feel like that's enough, it's enough of a resume to get enough sample size. Yeah, have your own pet peeve. We know where we're at right now. We're in training camp. We're zoomed in. And he's thinking right now to himself, like when the media sees this, I can't let him have yeah yeah syriani's a fun guy he probably wouldn't listen to this part and have a good chuckle or a good laugh he does seem like he seemed like a guy a little bit guys guy oh yeah oh yeah 100%
Starting point is 01:03:32 you have a beer with shirani would I yeah um I don't know if I can say this yeah yeah we don't want to do anything that's oh probably not he was it was after the Super Bowl oh yeah okay well you got everybody enjoyed a beer together anywhere during the Super Bowl yeah after Super Bowl everyone gets one beer 12 ounces bud light call it a day. Yeah, we were on a good time after the Super Bowl, though. I can't imagine. Post-game party. Have you physically seen the city of Philadelphia grease the polls? No, I've not. Actually, I've seen, I've seen videos, but I've never, like, witnessed it, you know? How often are you going into the city yourself? I feel like you can't
Starting point is 01:04:10 really get around. I mean, I live in the city, so I, uh, I mean, I feel like I blend in pretty well. Um, I usually just throw on a hat and, uh, you know, I'm just like a regular dude. walking down you've been to the rocky rocky statue yeah all right yeah you got some flicks with it we uh that's where the that's where the that's where the um parade ended the rocky steps and statue do you guys run up it yeah that was like one of the first things i did when i when i got here and toured the city was run up the rocky steps and i put the put the theme music behind it it's pretty cool you should make that part of your game day routine i know oh my that might be sick yeah that'd be awesome the day before the game or the day of whatever works in your schedule you're
Starting point is 01:04:51 schedule. And also it's like your legs too. I've never really walked up those steps. I wouldn't know how like how much of a it's not I mean it's not a whole lot on on the legs. Yeah maybe hit like yeah like get up at six eight yeah just get a little yeah it might be good to warm warm the legs up a little bit. You know visualize look around look at rock you think of all the things he's accomplished in his life. See this the city of Philadelphia. This is what I'm trying to do. This is what I'm trying to get down here. Do you have any like superstitions on game day? I usually like I usually get one like I do I got the same routine the whole the whole year and if we lose then I got to I got to switch something up in my routine but I try to do the same thing it's almost too much sometimes
Starting point is 01:05:34 but I try to do the same thing you know each and every each and every game day like I'll get there I have to eat exactly at four hours before the game go out and on the field two hours before I do my stretches and stuff before that. Handshakes at a certain moment. You know, so I feel like I got it down to, down to the science. Obviously, every year's different. So this year I'll have to figure out a different routine for those games.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Yeah, take her with it a little bit. Yeah. Do we have a same thing every game? Yes. Well, yes. I try to. It depends, depends what we're wearing on, like, jerseys and what they're wearing, you know, because as a defensive guy, you got to wear,
Starting point is 01:06:21 you know, you got to make sure you got the right gloves on. Yeah, blend in, you know, things like that. Tugging that jersey a little bit. Right, kind of sweat. It's a savvy move. Never know. Savvy move. Do we, we appreciate your time.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Appreciate you coming on. Don't we can't dive in it too much because we got to have them all on the bus. Yeah. Yeah. So that'll happen next offseason, but good luck this year. Stay healthy. Appreciate it. Best cheese steak in Philly is your last question.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Angelo's. Angelo's cheese sticks Mitch, how do you feel about that? Never been. Are you from Philly? Where at? Reading. Redding?
Starting point is 01:06:56 Okay. Delisandros. Not sure if I had it. I've had Del Rosses. You ever had Del Rosses? A couple of Philly guys. I don't think I've had Delis. Delisandros, no.
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Starting point is 01:08:05 Let's get back to this episode. Ladies gentlemen, welcome to the next portion of this podcast at the Philadelphia Eagles Training Camp. We are joined by two stout gentlemen. Big boys. Big boys. Offensive lineman. Lane Johnson, who just got in the 99 Club and Jordan, make sure I'm saying this correctly. Maya Lata, is that correct, sir? That's great. It's good enough for me.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Good enough for you. Yep. Make sure that mic's a little closer to your face. That's because we got to hear. This is a whole thing. We do a podcast. And so you want people to hear what you're saying. Seriously, sir. Obviously, Lane, you will get to you in a second. You're a stud. We love you to death. Your story, Jordan, is unbelievable. Being in Australia, playing rugby. You went and trained at IMG. Yeah, the International Play Apothea program was run out of RNG. So that's where I was for about three to four months. And halfway through that process, they said that was dropped eligible. It's like, cool, what's that?
Starting point is 01:08:56 They explained it to me and this crazy team took a chance on me. Was it seventh round? Seventh round. Seventh round took a chance on you. What for you was like, oh, I'm playing this game rugby in Australia. No one really cares about football, I'm assuming. You go and take a shot at this sport that you've never played before. Man, I was young.
Starting point is 01:09:14 I was 20 years old when I decided, you know, I didn't even turn 21 when I joined the program. I looked. Yeah. How old are you right now? 28. So, yeah, just turned 21 when I go drafted. I know I look 48. I fuck yourself well.
Starting point is 01:09:33 What was like for you when you see Jordan come in? Obviously, this big athletic bastard walks in the door. Jurassic Park. Jurassic. Yeah. Jason Peter. this dude but I was like I couldn't believe how well he can move at his size so now like even now like you look you see how lean he is it's like hey that's why we got to pay tariffs on him
Starting point is 01:09:54 that great ankle to give tariffs on him great ankle the cap ratio yeah yeah you're put together man yeah yeah I was kind of watching your sets out there yeah yeah crispy sets you get some crispy sets how long they take you to understand the techniques of pass setting angles hand punching run bits, man, double teams, scheme. I'd say probably
Starting point is 01:10:16 last year it was probably honestly, like the culmination of everything. Yeah. You start off hot year one though, right?
Starting point is 01:10:24 It was, now I feel like I was, start off hot year one, sorry. I feel like, you know, I'm more comfortable now my set,
Starting point is 01:10:31 my technique now. But I think it's just a combination of all the years adding up and getting to a point where you understand, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:40 the QB drop depth and knowing how much many, you know, kicks to go and just kind of get comfortable over time. And I think it was kind of last year just as just it all come together. Hell yeah. Man. Lane for you, uh, with, with Jordan, what was a couple early behaviors or things that he did to where you're just thinking like, uh, what the fuck are you doing? He's like, it's what we do in Australia? Uh, the F word is pretty big and it is the F word. I love the X and I told you that we got on here. The F word is pretty big in America, but,
Starting point is 01:11:12 the C word in Australia is the F word. So that was probably the biggest change that I learned from him. He was eating his little slurpy and he's like, I'm a big old cunt. Yeah, exactly. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Don't listen to this guy, man.
Starting point is 01:11:28 He's a silly. He used to say, you're a silly cunt, bro. I didn't know, you know, that was a big shock for me. Coming here, using that word and everyone, I was like, what did I say wrong? Yeah. And they have to educate me. And after that, I was like, all right, cool, can't say it anymore.
Starting point is 01:11:48 But no, he was a good time, Charlie, from the very beginning. Really? Yeah, I mean, he had to learn the ins and outs and, like, he had his growing pains. But there was like, like it was a preseason game here at home where he had, you just played lights out. And the sets were, you know, getting out of there. And I was like, damn, dude. Yeah. Because when you got here, obviously Jason was here, you were here.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Who were the rest of the guys? It feels like the Eagles have their guys for 10 years plus all the time. Yeah, I don't know if Kelly's already gone. I think Kelly already left, DK. Jason Peters is here. Big V was here. Big V was here. Tackle.
Starting point is 01:12:24 I think tackle was. You say Kelly was. Yeah, Dennis Kelly. Dude, how much. The war horse, man. He was my favorite. He was the ultimate equalizer because we had just a lot of different personalities in the room. But he was like the guy that came in.
Starting point is 01:12:38 He was like, this man's our judge. He obviously, yeah, he's a good country around. He is. He's a good contrarian. Everybody can be having a conversation, and then he will come in with the perfect devil's advocate. He's like, I'm not saying I disagree with you guys, but what about this? And then just restores up the conversation perfectly. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:55 And he's been like that just, he lights out every time. Yeah, no doubt. With Lane for you, coming in, you have Jason Peters, you got Kelsey, and then you're, you're fourth overall or third overall? Fourth. Fourth overall. You're in a position where you're being around these guys. Hall of Fame cats, the leadership, and now you find yourself in year 13 now, the leader of
Starting point is 01:13:16 the room, 99 club. Like, how is that transition? How big of help were those two in developing you from a leadership standpoint? Yeah, it's just, it's a lot of fun when you're around, like, guys that are super high intensity like you are. Like, there's like lots of different personalities, but like Kelso's one, JP, Brooks was, you know, Brooks was a very serious guy. I heard he was a different cat, man.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Yeah, he was, you remember, like. He's kind of built like Saffold, just, you know, just you're around you're like, you're not from this planet. Yeah, yeah. Different. But their work ethic, their drive for the game, you know, and I think JP, as soon as I came in the league, you know, he could have been asked to me as seeing somebody who was trying to take a spot.
Starting point is 01:13:58 But I got stuck at right tackle and pretty much, you know, he was my mentor, you know, as far as like sets and how he played his style. And, yeah, just like we had lots of good examples, you know, Jason, Peter, Sean Andrew. Drews. We just have Evan Mathis, Todd Herrman's. We just, we've always been pretty, pretty loaded. Um, and had good teachers. I see you got the, uh, you got the, uh, you got the toe spaces on. You're going into a year, year 12, 13. 13. You're going into year eight. What are a couple camp necessities in training camp that are must dood in the bag? Dude wipes. Uh, yeah, dude wipes. Um, uh, element salt packets. Yeah. Uh, uh, element salt packets. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:40 that's one we added a we added one this year it was a camelback Camelback for the backpacks Yeah we got a hundred animals Coloring books from CVS Land and bought three of those So I'll actually I'll text you out some pictures later
Starting point is 01:14:55 That we've done You will put it on yeah I'm not bullshit and so I'm pretty proud of mine so So we've been doing that in a meeting sometimes When it gets stagnant But no man it's we've been having fun But no it's been kind of a grind this, you know, hopefully no Super Bowl hangover.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Hell, you know, we're getting the dog piss to be out of us. Yeah. It's been good. Who's the personality to break up the monotony at camp in the O'Ly room? Landon. This guy. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what?
Starting point is 01:15:22 We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra. special. So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm
Starting point is 01:15:48 originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then
Starting point is 01:16:04 I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Last night, a blown call changed a game.
Starting point is 01:16:22 This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines.
Starting point is 01:16:37 We go straight to the sword. the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaders to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
Starting point is 01:17:11 The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Jenchian win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. Yeah, she's an outsider to win the first.
Starting point is 01:17:36 French, me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Landon. I'd say, Landon. Landon, like, I've had my, I feel like I've had my days in the same. son and Landon. If Landon, I don't know. I'm trying to describe the guy. This is a different cat, huh? He has like the Chris Farley.
Starting point is 01:18:18 He has the John Candy in him. And he also has the Billy Bob from Varsie Blues in him. So all those three-ro-old. What a comment. That's an interesting cocktail. It's almost as interesting as Lane Johnson being in Philadelphia. You're one of the most country cats of all time. Where I belong?
Starting point is 01:18:32 Where you belong? Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska. How crazy of a transition was it for you when you first got here? Yeah, it was, I mean, football's obviously very serious in Texas, but I just feel like here the spaces are tighter. And so, you know, traffic when you get home, there's like kind of no hiding. So, you know, I remember coming home for some games a few times, people spot you in the car. Run up on you.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Run up on you. You remember Gruden telling you, whoa, talking about a spilly story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes you get in those traffic jams and hey, but I know it like it all comes from a place. Like they love football. They want to see us do well. And they'll let you know if it's not, you know, up to par. Joe, when you got to the NFL, what was your rookie hazing like?
Starting point is 01:19:15 What'd you have to do? What Lane put you through? What the Blues do? It was actually a great vet. They didn't put me through much. Just get the Chick-fil-A and Popeyes for every game, every away game. Had to get J.P.'s apple pie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Missed it one time. Found out real quick. Yeah. How'd that go? Fine? One of the worst scoldings I ever got from, I felt like I was getting scolded from my dad. Oh, you was getting a scolding for real? I was like, damn, man.
Starting point is 01:19:41 I should have drove to the one five miles away. That's something that he looked forward to the whole week. That was his one thing. He just looked for that before the flight. I was like, damn. Upset. But they didn't do much, man. Just made sure that there were snacks in the room.
Starting point is 01:19:56 What the hell you're going to tell him to do? Look at him. No doubt. Big boy. Like, whenever I first got here, like Chip wasn't about that. We didn't have much of the, you know, even the rookie talent show. We didn't have that name, so. You guys didn't have the rookie talent show?
Starting point is 01:20:11 Get rides at the end of training cat practice. Do you do anything as a vet to the rookies that come in? I do the same thing that I was put through. Apple pies? No, apopies, no apple pies. What's your, what's your tasty treat? What's your, what's your number one? My number one for.
Starting point is 01:20:26 What did you eat yesterday? You'll like this. Which one for dinner? Chicken fried steak or some yokey. some yogi yeah we've been doing mashed potatoes what have we been doing
Starting point is 01:20:39 all grottin potatoes oh grotton potatoes and then just like cheesy so we mix it up but I know he's never had chicken fried steak till like last year so he was like dude
Starting point is 01:20:46 this is amazing don't eat it every meal you'll be hey you won't be doing you won't be doing good but you'll be feeling good I love the bonding he spoils me man
Starting point is 01:20:54 I love the bonding over food just a couple of o-line hogs just talking food what do you have kind of sad because we're sitting in there with our chicken fried steak and everyone's looking at it outside.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Landon's one of those guys that gets up early in that sauna, you know, for weighing days, you may have to lose five, you know. Yeah. It's kind of good to. But we had a couple of cats with the Titans that would be like 16 over. It'd be like two in the morning and the head coach Malarkey would pull up the security footage of someone going in at two in the morning just to get in the sauna. Spain.
Starting point is 01:21:25 He was Spain, yeah. Quinn Spain. 100%. That's crazy. He put up at a team meeting? He put up at a team meeting. But who's this? right here. Let's say this guy really loves ball.
Starting point is 01:21:34 And it'd be spanish on the security camera walking into the sauna. And it'd be like 2.35 in the morning. Michael Bennett would do some shit like that here. Michael Bennett would be, you know, Dom would say two minutes. Everybody's got their shoulder pads on. You know, somebody may be taking a piss. Michael Bennett would be in there in the Epsons salt tubs and none of his shit on. He might come out there the fucking second series
Starting point is 01:21:52 of the game. I'm like, this dude here. Different cat. Entertaining. But it was a great player. To not have that anxiety, being like, I got a miss room on time. I envy I envied being around people that didn't have the anxiety that we had. Anytime I saw a guy that didn't care, I'd be like, how the fuck do I get more like that? Because I felt like I always... The DBs, the DBs have it.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Yeah. The DB groups have it. They're going to figure it out. They're going to be where they need to be. It just seems like they're never going to get there. It's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:17 What was the biggest difference between Australia and America for you? Like, biggest culture shock besides the word cunt. I don't know if there is, probably the fandom. in sports. Like I thought, you know, rugby fans or just sports fans in Australia were pretty diehard, but I think across America, it's just like a different level. Just a different level, man. Philly is a different bird.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Yeah, maybe that's probably why I feel that way. But, yeah, just the fandom across the whole country is so different. Before you found football, was your goal to play for the all blacks? No. I was born in Australia, so it would have been the wallabies. The wallabies? Yeah. All blacks.
Starting point is 01:23:02 The old blacks of the Revenian team full New Zealand. But everyone thinks, yeah, New Zealand and Australia, same thing. That's why I say it. It's just like Canada and America. Yeah, I was saying the same thing to the boys. They were talking about New Zealand. I was like, guys, it's not the same. It's not the same.
Starting point is 01:23:15 So I'm glad you were able to culture them, man. We asked us to Cooper. Pet peeve of Coach Siriani. One thing you love about him and a pet peeve you have with him. I love he does like a lot of insightful, like speeches. Like we hear like from a lot of different. We had Michael Johnson coming here in the offseason, but sometimes we get too many quotes from basketball guys.
Starting point is 01:23:36 I'm like, hey, some bitches, we're out there shooting those threes and ducking because they didn't want to go across that middle. You know what I'm saying? Hey, you've been there. I agree. You've been there in those things. I'm going, hey, motherfucker,
Starting point is 01:23:50 I'm not dribbling no ball, brother. It's a different mentality. It is. It's a different mentality of this game. I remember Charles Barkley saying he went to a few practices. They tried to get him out of Auburn. or when he was in high school and he was like, man, fuck this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Went out there and, you know, you get hit the stern one time going across the middle. It's like, hey, okay, you got to make that choice. Do I want to stay with this or do I want to? Yeah, no doubt. Go basketball. You make a lot more money is guaranteed. Much better. Less anxiety.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Yeah, less anxiety. Yeah, more longevity. Cooler shoes. That peeve for you. Nah, I probably say the same. There's not much about Nick that kind of, you know, pisses me off. I think we see eye to eye on a lot of things. I was like struggling to think of a pet peeve.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I was like, uh. And then when he said that, I was like, yeah, actually that does piss me off. Yeah, that does piss me off. Seeing basketball plays up there talking. Tell me how you got to be tougher. I got to wake up every day and be tough. I'm not about to run up on a Ben Wallace back in the day or Rashid Wallace. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:51 You know what I'm saying? Those guys are big, so I understand. Talk to me about big Dom. Security Guard Dom. He had us in the corner telling us the biggest war stories I think I've ever heard. A good hour. To the point where I'm thinking myself, they ain't no way half this stuff is true. But he seems like he's, yeah, he might be connected.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Yeah, he kind of, he has a Joey Diaz kind of aura to him to me. Yeah. He kind of does. Has his storytelling is like really, you know, you get into it. He's super funny, but yeah, no, he's been here for 20-something years. 28, he was saying. 28 years. He's dealt with a lot of,
Starting point is 01:25:32 a lot of personalities on the team. Yeah. But he's pretty damn busy is what he is. A lot of it's getting passports that are lost. Drivers, I mean, this whole, you know, when they did the driver's license, you won't know. But did you, I had to do that. You had to?
Starting point is 01:25:50 Well, I didn't know if that, if you got yours. I had to stop from the bottom, get my loan is, my payments. You guys call the payment? Something like that, yeah. How was that? How was getting the car with that guy? I mean, it was easy. I got the wellness payment and got my license, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:04 What car did you drive? I drove in a, it was like a small, a little hatchback. Genius. Genius. A lot of guys want to pull up in a little hatchback. I pulled up in a little hatchback. Those cones. I failed my permit test three times, the written person portion.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Yeah, and then I, but I've, I chased that dress the test better. Aced it. Didn't get my license. I was 17, though, which is kind of a bummer. Kind of a bummer on that one. I kind of just, I tried to wing it. I didn't fail. I failed the first time.
Starting point is 01:26:32 It's just because I tried to wing it. And I was like, okay, I guess I'll study the book. Yeah, you get that little-ass book. Yeah, I was like, oh, my God, this is ridiculous. I was reading every page, every night. And I was like, oh, this is tough. Just like, good homework again. And then passed it the second time.
Starting point is 01:26:45 I was like, I was worth it. Yeah. When was the first time that everybody knew you could sing? Probably the rookie talent show. Yeah, they did. You was just sitting there and all? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Yeah. Yeah. He needs a promoter. Hey, we got to, we got to, yeah, what he did last night should have been, I guess they got recorded in there, but yeah, that was very impressive. Bro, we had a, we had a rookie one year in like 2015 or 16, and he started singing John Legend, playing on the guitar, singing John Legend. He started teams shut the lights off, phones came out, lights up. It's incredible when somebody's out there and they got some, they got some real vocals. That's what happened. You know how it's like real playful in the beginning. And then as soon as you started singing, oh, everybody got real quiet. He can sing a little bit He breaks throughout camp
Starting point is 01:27:31 We'd be in the hotel And he'd just be around Playing the guitar Singing songs The boys got you doing that Yeah A little guitar Locker room guitar
Starting point is 01:27:39 Community guitar In the locker room Yeah you can play a little bit We used to have a karaoke A little bit A little bit What was it like filming That Christmas album
Starting point is 01:27:48 Before you answered that question Two years before you guys came out with that I went to Will And I was like We should do a Christmas album He can't get off this It's true though It's true
Starting point is 01:27:56 I was like We should do a Christmas album. We're in Nashville. We should get a bunch of people and do a Christmas album. It'd be unbelievable. It was like, yeah, we'll look and do it. It's hard to get everybody to come to Nashville, record a song. And we were in our earlier stages.
Starting point is 01:28:09 We weren't operating. But wouldn't you know it, the Philadelphia Eagles come out with an album and I was punching air. Happy for you guys. Happy for you guys. He was also. I was so sick. I said we should do that. My buddy, I don't know what you want me to do.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Do it next time. It's not too late to do it. No, it's not too light. I'm going to have to do something different now. I've got to figure out a way to be original. But what was that experience? Who came up with the idea? Was it Jason?
Starting point is 01:28:32 Yeah. I mean, we, obviously he can sing. Jason loved to sing. I love to bullshit and sing. You can sing a little bit now. Don't sleep on yourself. You got that voice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I'm mid. I'm very mid. But the anxiety level was like worse than like before a game because at least I've had some practice. Like I, you know, you have what you have. But the first time we did after after a couple of shots, we actually felt kind of fun. You kind of lost track of the.
Starting point is 01:28:56 camera stuff but uh charlie just i felt like they're they had like a good chemistry just getting the set and you know the how the albums look just all that that came with it it was hard getting us all together before i mean all happened yeah really like jordan's out there he's going national i said yeah yeah that little clip you see is that charlie the gray hair guy it's like yes yes yes just feeling it yes yes so he was in there like holy shit he was in there he's very Like theatrical, he was the best. He made the whole project. Were you so fired up to just show out?
Starting point is 01:29:31 No, man, I was thinking, this is my confezer. Yeah, for me. It was just. I think Charlie heard, you know, I don't know they've been here to listen to what he didn't hear, but whenever he started singing, they're like, holy. Yeah. Yeah. Is that something you might want to do after a ball's over?
Starting point is 01:29:44 We'll see, man. We'll see. What do you? Go ahead, Bob. I was going to say, how much longer, how much longer you have in the tank? How long do you want to play? You got to make 20. If we win it all this year, hey, I can be done this year.
Starting point is 01:29:58 That's how I feel. It's on the horizon a little bit, the mortality of yourself? Yes, yeah. Just because there's obviously football, the career is fun, but you know, you're getting to live or, you know, life that's, you know, everything you work for, you're getting to enjoy now. But like whenever you're in it, you remember what it's like just you're constantly working and, you know, and that's how I feel when I'm in it.
Starting point is 01:30:21 But, no, I'm definitely looking, you know, next, couple years. I signed for two, so really this and next and really evaluate it. But, yeah, if we win it all this year, it could be, you know, last, you never know. You never know, but. Yeah, but you're operating at a high level. Exactly. 99 Club. Hey, but, yeah, where do you go from there? I mean, do you just, you know, just go back to being a guy?
Starting point is 01:30:43 Yeah. You know. How long do you want to play? If you had a crystal ball. Microphone on your hand. I'm good. I'm good with 10, man. I'm good with 10. You're on eight?
Starting point is 01:30:54 You said eight right now? I'm on eight. You guys are drawing lines in the sand right now. We'll see, man. I just want to get through this contract. I think it'll go like three to four years left. Yeah. I'll go from there.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Finish out this one. When you get done, will you move back to Australia? I'll probably say, yeah. Yeah, my wife's American. Hell yeah. I thought the gauge, like when you want to retire, kind of like in the off season, you kind of like, hey, I'll play 20 more years.
Starting point is 01:31:17 And then when you have a few days of camp, you're like, fuck this, man. I got fucking two days left. Yeah, it's not to ask somebody how long they want to play when you're literally. in the heart of August. I'm done, dude. It flux you whites.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Yeah. Yeah, we'll do this again in like March. And once we, like, you'll just be like, fuck it, dude. I'll play five more. I'll play six more. Because it would be awesome to see you make 20. That's only seven years, dude. That's only seven more.
Starting point is 01:31:37 20? 99 Club. That's ridiculous. Be 98 next year at 97. Like, you got a lot of room. I don't remember my name at the end of it. Yeah. You'd be calling yourself Landon.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Yeah. Landon. Just Lane just wheeling around in a wheelchair. He was a stud. I'm telling you. How old are you now? You really entertained us for a long time, brother. Good job, Lane.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Boys, hey, we appreciate your time, man. We love... Another, yeah. Best Philly in Philly. Cheese steak. Cheese steak, sir. Oh, sorry. Philly, best Philly cheese steak in Philly.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I'm a Jim's guy. Jims? Are you a big... That's right down the road right here? No, that's Joe's. A skinny Joe's. Excuse me. Are you a big Philly cheese steak guy, or do you feel like they're overrated?
Starting point is 01:32:22 Man, speak your truth. Go fuck yourself well. He's trying to set me up, motherfucker. No, no, I think Philly cheesesticks are a little overrated. He was trying to get your ass right there. No, I'm not a huge cheesecake guy, man. I think it's a good meal from time to time. I don't eat it, you know, every week.
Starting point is 01:32:37 Yeah. Chicken fried steak or a Philly cheesecake. She's son of a bitch. You just had it yesterday, didn't you? It just had a yesterday. Kind of nice little gravy on top of that thing? Because I had it yesterday, I'm going to go chicken fried steak. Oh, get them, Philly.
Starting point is 01:32:49 We'd have chicken fried steak. Hey, Lane, we'd have chicken fried steak every two. Tuesday in high school with rolls, mashed potatoes, everything. I'd make a little sandwich out of it. We'd be corn, potatoes. We'd have chicken fried steak and a roll. I'd peel off the roll, put everything in between. He would have loved it.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Would you have R.D. Mercos on the tape, too? Roy D. By God, mercy. How big a ball are you? Every time I hear you talk about that, nobody's even heard of him. I'm like, I've heard every day of tape. Yes. When his boy's shitting in the stall, we'd rip the CD.
Starting point is 01:33:18 We ripped the CD every year. My grandpa's, uh, uh, uh, The first time I heard that when grandpa had it in the truck. Have you heard Roy D. Mercer? No, man. Oh, you got to promote some Roy D. Burster. Country, Oklahoma. All right, guys.
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