Bussin' With The Boys - Jeffree Star & Taylor Lewan Address Dating Rumors, Talk What It's Like Hooking Up With Famous People + Reaction To The Super Bowl

Episode Date: February 14, 2023

Recorded: February 9th 2023: On this weeks episode the boys react to the Super Bowl and maybe the most controversial penalty in Super Bowl history. They also recap their time in Arizona. After that, two completely different worlds collide as Jeffree Star joins this week. He and Taylor address "their" trip to Wyoming (No, it was not actually Taylor). Jeffree speaks on different rumors that he has been involved in and what it is like hooking up with other famous people. They dive into why/how Jeffree started his own makeup line and the business behind it all. Plus they talk about what it is like being on the internet 24/7 and dealing with the backlash from it all + why Jeffree decided to take a break from it all. This episode is unlike any other episode of BWTB, so strap in and enjoy the ride 0:00 Intro 15:00 dinner controversy 29:15 Super Bowl reaction 47:00 how everything started 52:10 NFL can be a little homophobic 55:05 what made him want to do the wyoming trip post 56:40 how did you become Jeffree Star 57:40 was it difficult to be on the internet all this time 1:01:40 how do you figure who’s gay and who’s not 1:04:15 when do you think it's appropriate to understand the gay community 1:09:00 how did you start your platform 1:16:50 how did you get your confidence in all of this 1:17:40 quitting youtube 1:19:00 where do you find your fulfillment 1:24:45 the next thing for his brand 1:27:00 Kardashian makeup battle 1:30:40 mascara gate 1:34:00 illuminati talk 1:38:00 dream hookup 1:38:30 hip hop community is weird when it comes to hook ups 1:45:30 does he miss life before fame 1:47:00 how do you deal with hateful comments SUPPPORT OUR SPONSORS Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to gametime.co, enter your email, and redeem code BUSSIN for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply) NASCAR: Daytona 500 | 2/19 | 2:30 PM EST. Learn more at https://barstool.link/BSSNASCAR2023 Fitbod: Get 25% off your subscription or try the app free at https://barstool.link/FitbodBWTBFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, buddy, we're going to do this? Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Buston with the Boys. You can tell that we are in Zoom. We're feeling a little tropical, more like a little bit. We can hear you, Will. Guys.

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Barstall, by the way, Barstall put on a hell of a show all week long with the Barstow content house, the live shows, the mini-gall, the high production. They absolutely crushed it. I think we did. We were talking about it the other day.

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And Christian McCaffrey's coming on this podcast. You guys like comedians? Burke Kreischer, Shane Gillis. You like golfers? Max Homa. You like cosmetics? Well, we got an episode for you guys today with Mr. Jeffrey Starr. So there is.

The boys are checking a lot of boxes. You like gays? Perfect. Jeffrey Starr is coming up shortly. And here it is. It's beautiful. you did not make the episode. Was that a political stance not making the episode?

Or were you up to something? No, there's some values that I have that I like to stand firm on. And now I'm just fucking around. So I missed the Jeffrey Star. So for everybody out there listening, obviously, I've been playing a nice little angle out there on the internet that like I drew a line in the same with the Jeffrey Star thing. Your boy, we're about to be in Cabo in like, what, 48 hours Taylor?

I was having a debacle with my passport. I would have had it by now like a week ago or a week and a half ago, because I was about to have Mitch. I was about to have Mitch drive down and like pick this thing up, but there was a debacle at the Atlanta passport agency. We're traveling out here and I had to get an appointment in Tucson, Arizona. And the only appointment available was Friday and nine in the morning. So I had to drive two hours down on Friday morning to Tucson.

I make my appointment at nine. I have, you have to wait basically three hours to pick up your passport. Well, they took four and a half. So by the time I was on the road to come back, it was like, one on 30, two o'clock. And I had to drive straight to the Burt Kreischer. Something's Burning, which, by the way, that's fucking awesome. We got to do that.

Yeah, I had to drive straight to that show. I mean, at the end of the day, I was just driving and, like, enjoying some alone time, which is kind of nice. But I missed the Jeffrey Star episode, which I was bummed to do that, because obviously all the fun we've been having the last couple weeks. And I missed the Fred Warner episode, which I'm so bummed because he's, he's the best linebacker in the league. So I was bundo of missing those.

So that wasn't a everybody questioned it. It was not a political stance on, what am I trying to say here, avoid Jeffrey Starr. But I did have some foam boat. You know, you were hitting all the content. It was blown up. TMZ, you can talk about that. We went to a party later that night.

Drake's party, not deflects, but also the flex. And TMZ cameras were all over us. That story with Jeffrey Starr. this whole thing in the past couple weeks with Jeffrey Star has been nothing short of a 10 out of 10 content run for the boys obviously you're the main character in this whole thing Yeah dude I feel like the Drake thing was insane First off we've already talked about how much we hated it

Because just standing outside I'll use your analogy Like it's like the zombie apocalypse And we're all just trying to get the vaccine And the only safe places inside Drake's concert And it's like I'm on the list I'm on the list It's like just makes you feel grimy And I'm going to tell this story because I want it out there

because I feel I always have that weird that I mean where I have to get in front of it there was a moment when we were going from gate to gate and Will says to me Taylor, George is getting people and George Kittle

so we like jog over there and we get it and George is letting people and you go yep yep he's good and he's like the last one's this person right here he cut off the last person before me and I go ahead

I go hey George and he looks back at me and he just kind of goes Taylor it's not personal man I'm so sorry and kind of just walks into the distance and I was like probably the worst feeling I've ever had with another player in the NFL another player that I know and I'm actually friends with that was that was a tough L for me to take

and I never want to feel that pain again then three minutes later I'm just sitting with the boys hanging out cameras are in my face fucking going crazy like flashing blah blah blah I'm disoriented I'm definitely I did not I hope that video comes out because I have I have no idea how I look I was like so all over the place. And they're like, Taylor, are you dating Jeffrey Starr? Is Jeffrey Starr a good kisser? And I'm thinking, hey, what the fuck is going on right now, bro? This is all, this has become bigger than all of us.

All over me tweeting, am I in Wyoming? And now people are like fucking, I mean, there's some, there are some people that are thinking your boys are an ally of the community. And then there's some proud boys out there that are like, you're a fucking disgrace. You're a fucking disgrace to everything that's happening. And my whole thing is like, brother, we just did a podcast and reached out a little video, but I don't want to give too much of that way because it is an excellent, it is an excellent

interview. Jeffrey Starr is a extremely unique character. We all know that. And it was a very, it's a very interesting interview because navigating it was difficult. I said to him on multiple occasions and told the boys after like the boy talks in and riddles. Like he doesn't really finish sentences. He doesn't really like give you too much detail about stuff sometimes. So not knowing this individual and just trying to learn about them.

And like, I'd be, I'd be lying if I wasn't sit here going. Is this like a, they them situation? Is this like a, how do pronouns work? This is just a whole different world that I'm so new to that I was trying to like be, you know, respectful about, I guess. And then he was incredible though. Like absolutely nervous? I mean, oh yeah.

Yeah, that was probably the most nervous I've been for a podcast. Besides, like probably when we first started doing them, we're just kind of like trying to figure out this whole bustling with the boys thing is going to work. But it was definitely one of those deals where I'm like, I, like, you know,

like he's doing us a solid by coming on the pod with all this stuff surrounding him and the NFL players and people thinking it's me or somebody else or who is it. And he literally was like, yeah, I'll fly in. I'll fly in for the game and I'll come on your show and like was at no point was difficult. It wasn't like,

oh, we can do this time. They say yes and they move it a bunch. They ask for, like he asked for a bunch of things. It was just like a solid, smooth deal that ended up blowing the fuck up. And so I think people are in for an absolute treat. It's going to be, this is a fun pod.

And I think it's going to be funny to watch me try to navigate what the hell I'm doing. Because I really didn't know what the fuck I was doing the whole time. Yeah, and you were solo, dolo. I know. That was more nerve-wracking. But honestly, I was a little more nervous for the Fred Warner one. Because Fred's a linebacker, you're a linebacker. and I was kind of excited to be like a fly on the wall in that conversation.

I like watch you boys talk ball and I like chime in when I could. With the Jeffrey Star thing, you and I were both, we would have both been in the same situation. The only positive would have been like maybe you thought of some things I'd been of. But I mean, I was just all I was, my whole game playing was going to try to get you guys to kiss for a clip, like try to get you like a peck on the lips. Like, and can we get it for content?

You were going to be like, no. Like, why would I do that? And I was in my head, I was going to be like, dude, dude, for content. Like just for like a little video, just to like tease it like really lead into this. And then in my head you'd be like, why don't you do it? It's just for content.

You just want like a little clip. And then I would respond with my zinger like because I'm not gay. We would all share a laugh. But that was literally my only plan of action because I got to, I was sitting back watching the world go into chaos with this whole Jeffrey star thing. And you get to have fun and lean into it. And Jeffrey was a boy playing into it with us like messing back and forth. I'm like, when do you guys get back from Wyoming?

Whenever you, you know, when can I get on the point? can I get on the pod and do all this stuff. So that was probably the only part I was like bummed about. But to go back on the TMZ thing, JP, were you guys still there? Yeah, we were still there. When all the cameras came up? Yeah. You know, how nuts was that?

It was literally like, it was truly like a paparazzi moment. It's like we're standing there in the dark and then all of a sudden lights come on. And the first question, like as the lights shined all over Taylor was, are you dating Jeffrey Star? And you hear Pete just people chirping in the back. Are you dating Jeffrey Star? Have you guys kids? blah, blah, blah. And it's like, holy shit, this is like one of those

celebrity type moments where they're trying to like find some dirt, just like put out there for the world. Dude, and Taylor, Taylor crushed it. How, when everybody ran up on them. Like, what's going on? What's going on? I guess check out two days. You can find the full thing on Bussing with the boys. Yeah. Well, I just said a video. I'll let's say a video. It was like, could I even say it right? You did. I sent a video that we can hopefully put in the YouTube so the fans can see

exactly how you reacted. You know, I was, I, all I remember is being disoriented and be like, don't say, like, don't say no, because then it ruins everything. Like, I, like, it's all like, hey, come, come watch the pod and figure it out. You know, but it was even higher because, remember, I got a text from, I won't say his name, but from a player who's been on the show and texting me one-on-one, be like, hey, will, for real, like, on the low, is this stuff, like, true? and so I'm like showing Taylor and Taylor's like golly

and so then you got the paparazzi moment that happens after and it's just like this whirlwind I'm like have I have I taken this thing way too far there was that fear for sure I was like holy shit like I'm officially like is he gay is he not and it's like it's funny

it's funny when you're in the locker room and you do some shit and guys like hey yo yo chill chill chill chill but like now it's like oh people like I'm gay. You have the dominant I had teammates.

Joey Kamasta too. I know, but Joey like that, I mean, everyone could see that was like a fun little deal. Then like the whole thing of me turning around the bathroom was like, people were like, he was the fucking guy.

He is. And it's like, I go you'd rattle off a bunch of reasons why I wasn't. But listen, like you guys aren't to see the episode. Like, it was, it was just a wild situation.

Because I had teammates, teammates hit me up being like, hey, people are, like people are texting me. Like, you are trolling the world right now. People are texting me asking me if it's true.

Like if you are, if you're gay or not, we go into, we finally get in the Drake, the Drake thing. One of the first people we see was Derek, Derek Henry. And Derek's like laughing.

And honestly, when this whole thing went down and it started blowing up, because we went to something's burning with Burke. And like, as I'm getting miced up, Jack, like, runs up with his phone. He's like half a million views already on his TikTok.

I was like, oh no. I legit was like, I fucked this up a little bit. And one of the first people I thought was Derek. I was like, Derek's not going to know the joke. He's not going to understand the joke. He's legit going to think I'm like this.

And it's over. Derek sees us. We're like grabbing a drink when we first get in, comes up, sees the boys. And he's like, he's like, dudes. I got like 50 people texting me. A.J. Brown texts me. Ask me if it's true. This person texts me.

Ask me if it was true. And Derek, Derek was like, no, he's trolling everybody. He literally said, no, Taylor's just, it's a joke. He's trolling you guys. And for me, I'm like, okay, good. if Derek can figure out the joke, then we're going to be all right. Yeah. If he can understand, then it's all good, dude.

And Chris Long, he came up to, he's like, yo, that's the funniest thing in the world. But, you know, just another, like, respect. It's like all of your, uh, what is it, like colleagues, I guess, people that you're in the same world with, when they're coming up, they're like, hey, it's fucking well played. That's where it's like, okay, thank God. Yeah, people get it. But, like, I'd be lying. If we're not, I mean, we would all be lying to ourselves if we sat here right now and thought the whole

world knows that that was a joke. Like, there are truly NFL players out there right now that are like, yeah, Taylor 1's gay. Hey, good for him for, you know, coming out. Yeah, I guess. I mean, I don't play that shit, but like, yeah, good for him, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For all the, uh, for all the, uh, you know, proud boy type guys are like, oh, I'm done with the podcast. What a disgrace. Like, this is, this is good. This is a good line in the sand. It's like, all right, that's good for us, too, because that's not, that's not the type of crowd we need to be rolling with. Yeah. I know, but on the other

On the other end of it, Will, I feel like I've come off a little too liberal, I need to start doing some, some Republican shit. I need to go on the other side now. Because I feel like I'm coming off a little too much left. I need to go hard right for a little bit.

Hard, like, I don't know, some proud boy type stuff. Getting mad. You can go to Jeffrey's ranch and shoot guns with him. There you go. Once again, JP, there you go, and he did.

I think, Jack, was it you that said, Jeffrey was like, hey, come out to the ranch, we can do a vlog and stuff out there. He was legit, like, asking us to. Yeah, he invited us to Wyoming, said we could make a weekend out of it, do a bunch of content blogs, shoot guns, hunt, the whole nine yards. So maybe we will be Wyoming.

Maybe we will be. I feel like, hey, this is one of those things, though, like, we got to go as a group. Okay, because if I, if I want to say, like you're not me. Shut the fuck up, Will. No, dude. No.

Oh, yeah, but yeah, it was a wild deal, bro. It's been a fantastic week. And I'm bummed the boys are back in Nashville right now because I, like, it truly was so much work. Like, obviously, I work is so much fun. But when the time was to play, it was like so short-lived with all the boys. Hey, and, hey, shout out the boys too. Like, you guys absolutely fucking body bagged it out there. bodyed it, bro.

So everything. Switching from content house to Airbnb. Hey, we're going to go do the interview here. Hey, let's go to Radio Row. Let's do this. Let's do that. You guys crushed it. So, um, yeah, man, about some of the boys was out here.

I think we were in the headlines. Headlines too, like all week long. Like, Dave was obviously spouting at the mouth about the fucking dinner all week. Yeah. Do you want to talk about that? Like how you feel? Because I feel like I can give my opinion, but I love to hear your side of the story. I'll let the people hear your side of story from just Wilcofton.

Well, so we went to this dinner, this Barstool dinner. It was a, what was that? What day was that? Was it Thursday? That was Tuesday or Wednesday because it was the night of the ski show. Yeah. Wednesday. So we went out to this, to this dinner at this nice steakhouse, Dominic Stakehouse.

Shout out there. They had a phenomenal Australian wagon rabbi that I got off menu that I ran up the bill a little bit on as well. But thankfully, Dave and them gracious enough paid for. but we went to this dinner and we had this room. There was about 20 of us there. And I said, I was like, by the time I got there,

I was like on the other end of Dave. So not a whole lot of getting a banter with the boy, Dave, because we played. Oh yeah, because it was the mini golf day because we were bantered about mini golf and his mom, him and his mom just beating Taylor and I's asses

all day long on the course. And do we do this dinner, man. And it's, the dinner started at like 8.30. And we leave around. like 1130. The check comes. Let's just say the check came at 1135. I left at 1130. So we get done eating our meal. Like they already had apps there when we had arrived. And we're basically done with our meal probably around 10 o'clock, I'd say, I'd guess. And we're there hanging

out. I had Kirk Menehannehan next to me. Caleb. Caleb was there. Hank was there. I was sitting with like Jersey Jerry, KB. And we're all kind of done on our just like having a good time. What gets to be like three hours now? It's like 11, 1120, 1115. I'm like, hey, like, what's the move? What are we doing? Are we trying to go out?

Because fights, you know, there's like Bert Kreischer, Shane Gillis, fights, KFC. A lot of the bar still boys. They're at this bar called Paddies down in Old Town. And they went out there after Bert and Shane's show. And so I'm hitting them, I'm like, hey, where you guys are there? They're like, well, patty's come on out. And I'm just thinking like, what's the move? Hey, are you guys going to go out to that?

Are you guys stepping out, blah, blah, blah, blah. a lot of them were like no Caleb was like let's roll out Hank was like I'll go with you I'll get this Uber like are we good to roll like are we kind of just sitting around waiting for somebody to make a move because by that point we had about

three or four rounds of lavender towels come out to like you know those hot lavender tiles where you like clean your hands and face and everything else three or four rounds that shit you not that it came out so we're going to sit in there and I'm thinking like I mean it seems like everything's done and hindsight

I should have just looked down about hey Dave like is to check out or something like that because he was blown up about this fucking check debacle. But I didn't do that. I got an Uber. I was like, hey, the Uber's going to be here in a few minutes. Like, let's get ready and go out there and meet him.

So we got up. I walked down the table and I go over to Dave. And I really appreciate the dinner, man. And just FY, I got this steak off menu. He shook my hand back. And he said, oh, yeah, no problem. Then we banter a little bit about mini golf, about how he was talking about his mom.

He said, hey, my mom did not like you at first. I'm like, dude, I know. I was kind of figuring that out. but I feel like she came around there toward the end because I was messed with her and busting her balls throughout the entire little mini golf tournament. And then Dave and I bannered back and forth about how he got in my head, call me like,

oh, Willie, you can do it. I just, I go, Dave, when you said I just got to talk to him like a five-year-old, that's how you got to treat him. I was like, that's when you started to get in my head. We're kind of like laughing. And I'm like pointing as I'm like leaving the room. Apparently I leave the room, our little group leaves the room,

and he just starts going in. Is that not the most wildly disrespectful thing you've ever heard about in your life? and I hear it all and I'm thinking you know Dave if you were that pissed off why didn't you say something

like when I shook your hand and thanked you for dinner and was like up and leaving like hey Will like what are you doing like the check hasn't even came yet like I get I left before the check

but again this is a three hour fucking dinner and it's a massive table to where I'm on the other end we're not everybody's not in the same little group there's like little groups throughout the whole table and so I leave

and Caleb and Hank are starting to feel bad about it their anxieties rise and I'm like guys I got the Uber like just put it on me like I got you guys to come you guys are sharing a ride just blame me so they of course did not hesitate blaming the fuck out of me um let me somebody's fucking trying to all right sorry somebody was trying to call me um and they so they didn't hesitate they blame me and then I get there the next day in the whole content house is kind of blown up about the whole thing and I'm like what the fuck is happening right now I'm like is he really like upset about it so Dave gets done doing the KFC radio with them and I like you know do the whole thing. Like, hey, Will, you want to face the music on the act? And I'm like, fuck, I guess. I didn't know this was this big of a thing.

Do the whole thing. And I kind of see everybody's facial rash. I'm sitting next to Kirk Minahan. And Kirk's like, yeah, you probably should have waited. And Kirk's saying that, I barely know Kirk. Awesome, dude. I'm thinking I see his response. I'm thinking, okay, maybe I should go apologize to Dave.

That's why I start becoming aware of like, man, I guess I should have fucking waited a few more minutes for this thing to come out. So I go over to Dave, pull him aside. Of course, there's a camera, but I was trying to go with that out of camera. but just genuinely apologize. Hey, brother, that was a fucking dick-headed move last night. I was an asshole for that.

I had zero awareness on the situation. That's on me. And then he continues to lean into it a little bit. But I, you know, try to do my best to give him a real apology. And then these boys just run wild with the motherbird continually, continuously about like, these dumb fucking animal football players are so stupid.

Classless move. Blah, blah, blah. Then I started to figure out he's doing a little bit more content on it. So I see him later than I'm like, yo, are you still bitching like a fucking old lady about this thing? just being a child about it. But anyways, that was the whole thing on the whole dinner debacle, the whole dinner headline that lasted, like, ran its course

for like a good 24 hours, felt like 36. But that actually, you feel like I explained that well? No, I thought you did a good job explaining that. You did. It's just, what's your opinion? What do you think? I mean, obviously, you always want to wait for the bill to, like, get there, especially if you're not paying as like a courtesy.

However, like, what you have going for you? is three hours. It's a three hour dinner. It's a big table. If it was you, Charo, him and his girlfriend, then it's like,

yeah, you can't just leave. Yeah. Like, if there's like eight or ten under, like we're all going to sit there and you're not even, yeah, you're not sitting with him,

brother, like you got to, I think, let's say you did fuck up. Let's say you were wrong. Yeah, you win, apologize.

Let's just play the game. Hey, Will, you were wrong. You shouldn't have left. You went to apologize. Hand up. Hand up.

Lead from the front, right? Yeah. I think it's one of those deals Like if they want to keep playing it up From like a content standpoint Go ahead and do it But I wish

I wish Dave would have been like Hey man don't it's all good He's talking about a 10 year ban on the boys I'm thinking what are you fucking talking about Dave Over a couple minutes late Like I end up like Like being a coward about it too I looked at you genuinely shook your hand

And said thank you for dinner And if you've thought something type of way then Why not just address it right there Why not just like you're You're really gonna leave before the bill comes I would have like Oh shit. shit, yeah, you're right.

And I would have probably sat down done some little funny thing about it. That's my little fuck-up. But we just sat there and joked and then he talked shit when I leave the room. Like, what a pussy. I mean, it was a thing too is he does

have himself a little group of yes men around them that were like, yeah, Dave. Fuck him, Dave. I like Dave. We all like Dave. Dave, Dave. He does like to blow that shit up. And I feel like if Dave really sat there

and thought about it for real, and he'd be like, well, damn. he did just apologize and at the end of the day if it's like i apologize it's all good like you had to give the boy to have a shot at dinner you know he's yeah i mean he's clearly playing content game now like he like he's just you know how he does his face like he like says something a little wrong and kind of just like i don't even know how to explain it but then it just kind of looks like he knows he just dropped the little bomb and everybody just kind of reacting around him and shout out to him he's great i mean obviously he's been doing he's been in the content game for

so long he does a phenomenal job with it but it was one of those deals that kind of sat back when I was in the content house like, oh, people, people are telling us one thing. And then when he was around saying a whole different thing, I'm thinking, there's a lot of yes men in this building, which is great. Like, you need a handful of those guys, but you also need some people that let you see Devils Advocate once in a while. You need that. I'm not saying we're those people. But even if Ryan Whitney's a perfect example, like we were talking last night after the Super Bowl, it goes off on you on radio, on radio row or whatever.

Who talks about come up players? He's like, they're so dumb. They don't even, he doesn't get it. Kills us. Like, not only you are catching bullets, the rest of the whole community is catching straight bullets. You tell him three-hour dinner, and what do he do? You tell everybody what Witt did the minute you said it was three-hour dinner.

I said, hey, Witt, I saw you on Barcerania. You guys are tripping pretty good for not being there? And he's like, oh, are you guys not the dumbest animals on the planet, like in sports? And then I kind of agree with him. Yeah, football players are we are pretty dumb. But I was like, I was like, Witt. I was like, that was a three-hour dinner. And I, like, he was like, but did you even thank him or anything?

I go, I went over and I shook his hand. He goes, oh, he didn't say that. And then literally marched right over to Dave and then started chirping Dave and kind of being on the side of being on our side about it. That's a man move right there. That's a man move by the way. Witt realizes what he did. And he went over there and was like, well, what the fuck, man?

He fucking did X, Y, and Z. Yeah, because it is a game. Like, they're on radio and they're like, you know, it's fucking. They're, they're piling on. It just, it was shitty to just to be on the complete other side of it. The piles happening on me. I'm thinking, all right, motherfunkers. I think I was telling J.P.

or one of the boys, I'm like, you know, I got to start taking the gloves off a little bit. I got to start tripping back at these motherfunkers, dude. It's not going to just bully it. They'll just bully it. They do. They will gang up, dude. That's the thing.

You got to keep your head on a swivel when you're at bar. And KFC, KFC just on his knees for Dave about, I think it was an underreaction, Dave. Shut up, KFC. A little bitch. So basically it was all just a big It seems like it's a big misunderstanding that's been blown up And I feel like if people just listen

To your story and Dave's story They can figure out the truth somewhere in there Yeah I mean it you know how it is It's like all the bullshit out there on social media Like everybody's also having fun with it Like you know you lean in You get out your boots on the ground People are gonna love hey that shit's hilarious or whatever

Um one But you just don't know That's also why I love fucking social media It's just one of those things or I was on the other end and I had to get a little, you know, I had to bow up a little bit more

and fucking, okay, okay, who's who's who in the zoo around here? But it's gonna be fun now because I've said my apology. I've said all my shit. Anybody who listen, like you said,

listens to that story and doesn't think like, okay, this is a very good excuse. Everybody leans into it. Like, it's fucking no holds bars. Now we can have fun with it.

Right, right. Social media is a wild game and like one thing that I saw a bunch during my week that I was even aware of that, I probably should say something about is your voice trigger discipline on that pistol. That is something that...

Yeah, number one, yeah, like, dude, we had the gun on there. And I was even thinking, like, was that a gun? But then somebody's like, oh, yeah, they have, like, there's gun pages. Like, I'm thinking,

oh, yeah, I mean, I've fucking been on the grain. Oh, yeah. Well, before we posted it, I was like, Jack, is it, we can post it as there was a little bit of a conversation for a little bit, like, should we be able to... What's he doing? Some fuck is we'll be able to.

have fun. I'm literally, like, we were talking about, should we even post a photo with a gunball, it's like all, it all plays into the game of turning around. He had the silencer in the bathroom with buddy, that he was in Wyoming with. And so I grabbed a gun and I'm thinking, all right, there's no bullets in it. There's nothing in. I've checked it three times and I had my finger on the trigger. And I did get, like, I didn't see all the comments because there was, like, it was so many comments, so many. So, but I did. But I did. every once in a while I'll see like trigger discipline, like you're an idiot. And I'm like,

fuck dude. That's actually something I was zero percent aware of. Zero. So I apologize. I should have better trigger discipline. And that's it. I've said sorry now. He said, I apologize. I should have better trigger discipline. I should have had the common sense to take my finger off the trigger and not done that.

I'm a fucking idiot for that. And so next time I hold the gun, I will make sure and not do that. So I appreciate, I appreciate people. saying something to me because I would have never have known if it wasn't for just getting absolutely dummied on the bird for a little bit. Well, fuck, at the end of the day, it's like, you look at Taylor and Jeffrey Starson and their Taylor's on the gun, like, you know,

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So do you want to talk with the Super Bowl? Yeah, absolutely. like what a what a incredible like a top five Super Bowl that got ruined with a god like a god awful call that's yeah if you go rule book strict rule book frame the frame you're going to find what you want to find there's a penalty on literally every fucking play but at that moment in that moment and the rest did a phenomenal job up to that point of letting the boys play i felt like and to make that call I just, that's a fucking bummer. That is a fucking bummer,

but I will say I thought, the Eagles, Coach Siriani and I also saw Kelsey afterwards, Jason Kelsey doing an interview afterwards, like handling it all with absolute class, man. Like it was, it was really cool to see them handle all of their post-game interviews and I know we're kind of just talking about the game in that moment

so we can go back to it. But yeah, I just thought it was a fucking thinking tag call, man. I thought it was a thinking tag call, but the Chiefs played their fucking balls off in that second half. And Mahomes rallied from a like a 10-plus point deficit. Yeah, dude, watching what you said was perfect with the refs. The rest were literally letting the game being played as the game. Like, yeah, there was holdings that weren't called.

I know one specifically on the Chiefs. Redick fell down and he kind of buried him and held him down a little bit. Mahom scrambled between the right tackle and right. guard and dish it off and got like 10 yards or whatever and like but the game was being called consistently for everybody there was never like all the chiefs are getting calls or the eagles like all the people that are in the narrative of like uh all the people just want the chiefs to win like that shit was not happening at all until that fucking call when that call happened it was like not only yeah like you said frame by frame you're and get what you want if you're looking and

watching this game it just doesn't if you're reading a script the game is actually in a script that part in the movie does not make any fucking sense. Because the whole movie leading up to that point was letting the boys play. Minimal penalties, we're putting the ball down and we're letting the two best teams in the NFL figure it out for themselves. One's going to be a winner. One's going to be a loser.

The champion will be crowned. Like you said, it's a top five Super Bowl. It's incredible. There is running. There's passing. There's big plays. There's touchdown. There's special teams plays. Like, there's a guy, you miss a field goal.

Like, there's so much, drama packed into that 17-hour window or however long a Super Bowl is. And it's just like fucking, it was awesome. It was really good. Rihanna did a phenomenal job. The whole fucking thing was great. 10 out of 10-5 time show. They ruined it.

And I'm not saying they ruined it because I wanted the Eagles win. I didn't have a dog in a fight. I just wanted the game to be played and finished out by the players deciding the game. And that ended the game. That truly ended the game with you had a minute 20 or, um, minute 30 left in the game, and that call doesn't happen. Maybe they just kick a field goal. Or they score.

Because you saw they were trying to let them score. They throw out the white flag like, hey, let's let them score so we can go down and score and make the thing to overtime. Like strategically, Seriani did it correctly. He handled that letting them run. And then I'm not sure who had the ball. Was it McKinnon, number one, who ran it? I'm not sure.

And then he slid. I'd like to have to fly right. Yeah, right before the end zone. Genius. And it's, that's smart. well-coached football. Everything was going the way it fucking should for an electric

possibly overtime Super Bowl. And like, who didn't want that? We sat there with eight minutes left in the fourth. And then we started rumbling, we started whispering, man. Well, if we get an overtime, Super Bowl, this is going to be fucking awesome. Because that's one of those games. Like, not every NFL game is like this. That truly was one of those games. You're like, man, I'm going to be

bummed when this game ends because it's that fucking good. And the Chiefs, you know, it's just like Bill's chiefs a few years ago when they go to overtime. And the chiefs win the coin toss and they go win the game. Like, that's just how it works sometimes. Like, the chiefs could have easily still won. But I just feel like that one piece of laundry that went out on the field late after a play really put a massive blemish on what would have been a top five Super Bowl of all time. Yeah. And the fact that it was high scoring,

like I know everyone went like 35, 35, like these two teams are offensive left at all in the field. Defense, like they played well at times. Like the chief's defense having that opportunity playing in the first half to get them to get them kind of back in the game because the Eagles were beating their ass in the first half. Went in the halftime down 10 and then, dude, I mean, hats off the chiefs. Like they definitely fucking willed their way back and got back in it, took the lead late. But it was an awesome Super Bowl.

A halftime show was also. I know there were a lot of people chirping and it's like, dude, Rianna went out there and bang that stuff by herself. Not obviously with minimal, like there was dancers. there weren't costume changes. It's just like she, Ella, she like levitates up on a platform. And she just bodybag reminding everybody that she's like one of the baddest bitches in the world with all of her old jams. Spotify's going to be running, what is it, rabbit, rampant?

What is it, J.P. Oh, Rampid. Rampid. Spotify or Spotify. This is going to be running rampant for the next couple weeks because that's kind of the imprint that thing makes because every chunk she was playing. It's kind of like, oh, shit, I forgot about this one. I hope Jay-Z pops out. I hope M&M pops out.

Kanye Westpombs though, but nobody didn't. She absolutely murdered it. But yeah, if it wasn't for that call, and the whole call thing is only mainly for me anyway. Like the chiefs, everyone knows that that was a tic-tac call. So I would have just loved to see in the end of that game. But other than that call and the way that that game kind of finished, because it left kind of like a, well, that fucking sucks, man.

And taste in your mouth, outside of that, that was a 10 out of 10 Super Bowl, bro. I agree, dude. It was really good. I just wish that one thing wasn't there. I know. Who knows what would have happened, dude? Like, just like, let's say they'd go score.

They kick three in the Eagles. The Eagles could have just lost. They could have, they got through a pick. They could have got a football. Right, right. Well, they're going down to score to win it. We're all going to hit our bets and be happy, but. Yeah.

Yeah, they could have done that team as in me and Jack. Yeah. Like, I'm sitting there just like, I'm just truly sitting here enjoying being a fan watching this game. Like all of the stuff like, I wish, I wish we were in it. I wish Titans were in the game. I wish I was playing ball ball, ball. Like that, that ends the minute the game starts.

And you just like start to embrace like the, the show that is the Super Bowl. And it's just insane, absolutely insane. Up even to the commercials where the commercials are like people who don't even watch football, literally go and watch Super Bowl for the commercials. Like, it was such a good fucking game. And that shit just just ruined it. I mean, it doesn't take away from the Chiefs. Like, they could have easily.

is like they won the Super Bowl and even if that call wasn't made, they were probably going to win the Super Bowl the way it was going. The way the momentum was going, like they did, man. They like, they played their balls off in the second half.

They made good adjustments. That time of possession of the first half, 22 to 8, and then it took a little bit more control and didn't like turn the ball over and played better defense. They did. They played their balls up.

They definitely deserve. Like, they earned that Super Bowl. But it's not like I'm going to walk up and like a chief fan or whatever else like without being like, hey, for that fucking call. and you never fucking know. Like you guys didn't outright beat their ass because they didn't.

And I will be salty about it. I guess until next year when I make the hot take that they won't make the playoffs again. You're sticking to that, you think, huh? Probably. It was a fun little time this year. And everybody who listens, like, I'm still going to lean into that on the, on the internet and everything else. But everybody who listens can now see, like, oh, you know, Will's giving them their flowers a little bit. But that's just our inside secret on Bust with the Boys.

Because there's a lot of people who chirp that don't listen to the episodes, which makes it more fun. when I turned back. So all the Chiefs fans listening, yes, I just confidently gave you guys your flowers. But on the internet, we play a whole different game out there. A whole different game, brother.

Well, should we hit the shoutout, no free shoutouts? Yeah, we should absolutely hit out shout out for shots. We should have the boys today. So it is time for the greatest segment of the week. Shout out.

No free shout out. JP, we're going to start with you because you're just to the left of my screen, buddy. What do you got for us today? This week, I have a shoutout. but also could be a teaser for next week,

but depending on what you guys decided to do. But my shout out, no free shoutout goes to Taylor's high school guidance counselor, Dave Ziegler, because as we were waiting to try and get inside Drake's Super Bowl party, Dave walks out and he's like, oh, the busing boys, what's going on? Dave, how you doing?

He's like, you guys go in there, y'all leaving? We're like, no, we're actually trying to get in. And he goes, well, it was three, me, Jack and Gary. He goes, well, I mean, you can have my wristband and my wife's wristband if you want. Pop the wristbands off, gave it to us. Obviously, we were still down one, but so we didn't go in because you can never leave a soldier behind. But shout out to Dave. I love that.

Or even giving us the wristbands. He's the man. Dude, Dave's the fucking man. And because all this stuff with the Jeffrey Star is blown up so much, we're doing Jeffrey Star this week. Next week here you guys are to see Dave Ziegler. He was fucking incredible, truly inside ball. It's amazing. relationship incredible and I love that he loves the boys as well. Nice shout out. Not

for a shout out J.P. Willie. Yeah, that was a good one. And what a boy move. What a boy move by Dave in that in that moment because I'm sure you guys are fired up and be like, oh, the busing boys. Because there's masses of people. Like I don't want, guys, this is, this Drake Super Bowl party was out at like a hangar at the airport. Like, and you're pulling up. There's black cars everywhere. There's cops everywhere. There's masses of people begging to get into this thing. And I'm sure him coming out and just seeing you guys be like, oh, the buss and boys. then dishing you guys some wristbands. What a high-level boy move by Dave Ziegler. Massive.

Jack, or do you want me to go or you want Jack? You were in the middle for me, but Jack can go because you usually go second to last. Yeah, I can go. Mine is a two-part shout-out, but shout-out, I know if we shout-out to free stuff and also to CAA. Taylor being a rep with CAA,

we got to go to their gift suite while we're in Arizona. And there is nothing better than getting free shit, but not just like a key chain or a sticker, like some valuable things for guys like us. Loves sacks, rowers, you know, gold chain. You know, we want to talk about it too much. But yeah, shout out to Taylor,

shout out to CAA, and especially shout out to free shit. Can't beat it. Fuck yeah, dude. CAA the best agency in the world, dude. By far. That's it? Yeah, I thought you were going on it.

I thought you were doing something there. No. It's incredible. He said, by far. I'm just like, yeah, yeah,

it's good. That's good. Like salty. What did you got, Willie? What, what's the whole stuff you got today?

My shoutout, no free shoutout goes to pegging. I'm just fucking around. My shoutout, no free shout out. And I like this little detailed one because I thought of it on my drive down to Tucson

on Friday morning when I was missing. Like just anxiety high. Like, man, I hope this works out perfect so I can make it back for the interviews in the afternoon. But I'm driving the sun's out. My shout-on-no-free shout-out goes to not the visor that you pull and block the sun in the car, but the little sliding, the little sliding door, the little extension, and you get, like when you hit the side mirror or the side window and you got to move it out

because it played a crucial role in my drive home. And I just, that is my shout-out, no-free shout-out, that little slide door within the visor, you know, Am I saying all that right? Is it called a visor? I think so. I don't really know what you're talking about. I think so. I know you're talking about it.

It's the rear view mirror, but like the thing you pull down, but then the extension part. Yeah. When you're in the car driving, you pull down the thing to block the sun, you know, check yourself out every now

and then like when you slide it open, but that little extension on the side to help get that little extra sunblock. That's my shout-out, no-free shout-out. That's a solid shout-up upper shout-out, now that I figured out what it was. My shout-out,

For it's quiet for a second. Yeah, yeah, that's got to be a tough feeling too. Just wear sunglasses, bro. And I did have them next to me. That's what's funny. My shadow, no free shadow is going to be, it goes out the GBOT. You go out with the boys, you hit a vacation. You do a little bender on the weekend, Friday.

You do the drink thing. Saturday, you do waste management. Sunday you're drinking on Sunday. But Monday, you have a bait decision to make. Who are you going to be for the rest of that week? Because that's going to start off. what you're going to do for Monday through Friday and how you're going to get back on track.

That's what GBOT stands for. I felt like shit this morning. I didn't want to get up. I got up. I went to XOS. Willie and I went to XOS. We got that fucking workout in. We got shit done the way we're supposed to do

and start out our week the correct way. And that's just getting right back into what your daily routine is, no matter what the circumstance. And so my shout out of every shout out goes to getting back on track. solid. I still, like, even though we did work out, and I'm like, I know I can feel good about myself. This was one of the first times where I did the workout and I still like, man, I still wish I would stay at home type of deal. But I'm glad I did it. You know what I mean? I'm glad you drug me out. I was like, I texted Taylor this morning. I said, hey, what are your thoughts on, what are your

thoughts on being soft today and not going in? And, you know, just kind of being a little lazier and just staying at home. He's like, oh, I'm going to go in and knock this thing out. We kind of told the guy yada, yada. He's that kid looked, it wouldn't look good, and we both don't go. He's like, I'm just trying to go in and knock this thing out. So I was like, all right, I'll go. We went, you know, obviously bodyed it up, but it was a good movie. It was a solid one. There's a solid one.

Are we missing anything else, boys? I think we're good. All right. JP, anything? With that being said, boys, we are going to get into this Jeffery Star episode after this ad that you're going to see from either JP, Jack, or any of the boys in the bus. we will be back in our original seats next week. Big hugs, tiny kisses, and enjoy this. You very unique ride.

Yes, hell of a conversation coming up. I'm actually going to personally listen as well because I want to hear the entire dynamic of the show and all your questions and how I answer because I'm fired up that he did come on the podcast. Yeah, dude. It's sick. You're going to love it. All right, boys. We interrupt this episode to tell you about NASCAR and the legendary.

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Back to the episode. Well, as the boys are walking around, we are officially rolling on a very special episode of Bustin with the boys. What a wild opportunity for two weird fan bases to come together and become one. I know. Oh, you better turn that down. That's all right. Set design on set design. Mia?

We have to... Camila. Excuse me. Camila is ripping up, doing the lights and stuff like that. So let's just break down how this whole thing came to pass. You, when you decide you were going to come on this podcast, you're extremely, extremely helpful. A lot of times it's, hey, can you do this? You get radio sounds for a little bit.

You have been very communicative. Yeah. Yeah, from the get-go, which I truly appreciate. So about... Communication is key. Communication is absolutely key. Let's say a week ago, let's call it 10 days ago. Okay.

There is this room. this rumbling going around in the NFL community that some gentleman is with Jeffrey Starr on his way to Wyoming. You take a photo. I believe the first photo was this man's ankles with his van. His ankles aren't that strong, but he runs fast.

Okay. Well, that checks off my box. I am, that is one. He's a fast runner. Yeah. So during this, like now, the only reason why I find this out is people are tagging is Tara Luan in Wyoming right now. Sorry. No, I loved it. This got us to this point now, which I think is incredible.

We're in Arizona. And I was already coming to the Super Bowl. I've been before. I love it. It's fun. There's always fun parties. A lot of excitement. No doubt. So this is a great opportunity. Yeah. This is a great opportunity. So everyone thought that I was sleeping with you, but I'm really fucking one of your friends. Okay. That's the short version. That's the short version. You posted another photo of this gentleman wearing, was it Gucci? It was something designer with his back to it.

had a similar haircut to me. It was like this big denim. Right. Yeah. And so... Wyoming thing. And the color of the outfit does not match the team. I think people were wondering that.

That was a question too, because there's a gentleman that plays for the Cleveland Browns. And who's that? His name is Wyatt Teller. Okay. And that was a name that was thrown around. Sorry, Wyatt. I don't know you, but it seems like you're out of the woods.

I'm busy right now. I'm booked this weekend. Call her. Call him. Hit me up next week. No doubt about it. Yeah. So people are starting to remember the start.

to say things. I tweet out because this is a fun thing for me. Am I in Wyoming? Yeah. And you have humor and you actually can have fun with life. It's all about a comfortability, especially when you don't know what you are. I'm kind of just figuring that life out life out for myself. Now I'm married with two kids, but I will switch up in a second if I have to. Yeah. If life gives you lemons, you fuck those lemons. Right. That's what you do. So you, how did you see that tweet? Because you obviously don't follow me. You follow one person on Twitter. Yeah. I unfollowed everyone a few years ago for a mental cleanse because people were just getting too weird.

Yeah. Then you unfollow someone and you still like them in real life, but you hate their content and they take it personal. That happened with AJ Brown. He's a receiver for the Philadelphia Eagles now, but he wasn't the Titans. He unfollow me. I asked him why. He goes, because you play too much.

Wow. I took that on. There's no humor. It's getting blocked. He's about to win a Super Bowl probably. Yeah. So you're verified. So I saw your tweet.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's it. Yeah, that was it. I wasn't searching for it. I didn't know if people are tagging or whatever. Yeah. Then there was a lot of.

replies and then your name was popping up and I was like who is this? Yeah. What'd you think? Hot. Thanks. I needed that more than ever. It's been a rough week for me. Yeah. So you say you needed an invite and the game is officially being played right? We're officially playing this multiplayer game on social media. And thank you. A lot of the times. Yeah, she is a rocket.

Yeah. I do appreciate and she doesn't want your acquaintances or other fellow teammates. Their wives are busted. It looks like they just settled and wants the check kit. They didn't know what to do. Oh no. They're stuck. Is there anything that come, anybody that comes to mind specifically? Oh, God. What was the wife that got really mad?

That's definitely one of them. Yeah. Do you think she's, I actually don't know. Or Henry. Henry? Henry? Yeah. So people thought it was Henry.

Yeah. And she got mad. Yeah. There must be a lot of questions that relationship possibly. Definitely a lot of personal issues. Because why, well, see, the thing is that she wrote me before like paragraphs. And there was like, I'm going to use legal action if you don't.

How do you do that? You can't. She's just, I don't know if she made it up. Yeah. So I was gonna screenshot it and post that and be funny. And I was like, you know what? It's a new year. I'm just going to be quiet.

Oh, good. So I actually swiped, deleted the DM. 10 minutes later, the bitch is back. Because you can tell when someone deletes it because it vanishes. Oh, really? She was back with a little short blur. And I was like, oh, no, she's trying me. And so you went out to the masses to let them know.

Yeah. I just felt it was so annoying and insecure. And I never even heard of him before. Yeah. Yeah. He's probably so mad the next morning Like you dumb bitch Well I actually know my agent

My agent was I was on the phone with him Because once you and I started talking There was a possibility you're coming in the show It's a big deal And I was talking to him He says I have another player Who is in a similar boat People were tagging him

And he calls him at 1 a.m. Fucking pissed Why? Like why the fuck is this dude doing this? I'm not like that blah blah blah All this shit And then the next day he sends him my tweets

of like, listen, just play into it. Have fun and get over it. Yeah, because there's a level of like, listen, like people take themselves a little too seriously. You do. And that's what happens. So it's, if anything, this is going to be really good for the NFL and for us.

It is. Yes. We're mending bridges. Maybe I'll have my own seat at the... Possibly. One of the arena. Football is one of the more homophobic sports. See, that's what I heard,

but I've been to so many games and I've hung out with a lot of people and I've never had that experience. It's more in the locker room. Yeah, because you do, you try to do a couple things. You try to do a couple things to mess with dudes. Hey, I'm about that shit. Yeah, they get frustrated.

I know, because, yeah, that's, whoo. That's some psychological shit. Yeah. It's on them, yeah. That's actually, joke and laugh and normal, you're just a normal person. So if you get really weird or insecure or you take offense, there's some deeper things that they haven't dealt with. Yeah, so you think those individuals are fighting their sexuality.

Oh, my God, demonic. That's got to be a tough life to live and not live your true self. They're just fighting to suck a dick and they won't do it. It's like, try it, move on. Yeah. I try everything twice in life.

Exactly. That's what you gotta do. What's crazy is these random women have started DMing me. I went to college with, what's her name? Henry's wife. I don't know how to pronounce her name.

That's okay. Her name's awful. It's probably fair not to put it out there for her too, out of respect for her. Yeah, we don't want to get more mad. Yeah. I might put a hit on me. Maybe.

I feel like you've got way more connections than she does, though. even though I don't know Henry's wife. Can we pull that? We find out who it is? Thank you. I forgot her name. Oh, I'm not concerned.

Wyoming has a lot of land. A lot of land. You've watched Yellowstone, right? I've seen Yellowstone, yes. So when they go to get rid of someone, where do they go? They go to that border, right? Is it that Wyoming? It's real, yeah.

That's actually real. It's a piece of land where this is an awful thing. You're putting a lot of implications out there already. It's an awful segue. We're not talking about this. Yeah. Wyoming has a piece of land that has nothing to do with anyone. why? And you can get it.

If a situation came up where she pushed the line that much, she'd find herself in that piece of land. I don't think she's going to call the hit, man. But I definitely think she wants to Carol Baskin me. Like, she wants to get rid of me. Yeah. That's fair. Has anyone talked to Henry? Should we call him right now live? I don't have Henry's number.

His wife name is Sarin. And it's Henry who? Henry Anderson. How do I know that name is he? A defensive lineman played for the Colts? Played for the Panthers. dude, right? It's got to be a white dude. Hello, that's why we're here. Yeah, that is why

we're here. I don't know why. That was stupid. This is why this is a terrible show, and you're only making a better. Show the black guys that sleep with or NBA or rappers. Yeah. And that's also another homophobic community. So how do you wiggle yourself into that? The rapper culture, they try to be all tough, but they're all down for anything. All of them? No, I don't want to say all. See, that's where I'm going to pick you a little hole there. There's a small group of

dudes that just love pussy. And I love pussy too. I just prefer men. Men pussy. No, all of it. All of it. Yeah, I love threesomes, foursums, orgies. Yeah, because when we were talking the other day, you said I got back to this gang bang.

I was on a Zoom with my employees. So it was a mental gang bang. It was a mental gang bang. No, but I'm into anyone. Whoever's attractive, I'm into you. So when we go to this Wyoming trip, what made you want to tweet about that and do all that?

Is it for the fun of the game, for the love of the game with a bird? Yeah, it's fun. to cause a stir and he was down because he doesn't have any tattoos and I did this game before a few years ago and the person was discovered the next day because of their tattoos

but it was just to be funny so I don't know I just wanted to start off 23 letting everyone know we're here and we're about it yeah and yeah so no one has figured it out which is great yeah so he doesn't care

if anyone at the end of the day maybe found out later but right now doesn't want to be on the news So he's not openly out there. No. So we can take Carl Nazim off the list. He loves a vagina.

Really? Yeah. He just likes to try on a different thing once in a while. Yeah. Yeah. It gets boring. How long were you guys in Wyoming for? Oh, God.

We got snowed in. I felt bad because, well, obviously, season's over. Yeah. I'm the new season. So we definitely got snowed in. But, you know, we have a team there in ranch hands and assistance. And we got, we had a lot of fun. And is that like your residence is actually Wyoming?

I sold my house last year, finally. Is there a reason for that? You just wanted to... I have born a race from Huntington Beach. Really? I'm tired of California. I'm bored of it. You're over it.

Yeah. Dude, I'm stoked to have you because I know nothing about you. So I want to learn everything I like everything I possibly can. So in life, we're all playing characters. Yes. Right now, the character of Jeffrey Starr is a provocative, controversial one. How did... Birth.

How did you become that? So you grew up in Huntington Beach. Yeah, I've always just been fearless. So everyone else was like sun tanning and being surfers. I had like a tan-inch mohawk and I was very punk rock and I was going to all the shows. You played 282 fan. Oh, I love them. Yeah.

A fair band of all time. So I grew up with like listening to Hate Breed and Slayer and things like that. Which is a much different than the figure we're looking at right now. It is. Yeah. So when I went to all the shows looking like this, people respected me and I felt at home in the music scene. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

And so as you get older, what? how did this all come about? When you're wearing dresses, we got the hair, we have, we do cosmetics. Is that the correct way they say? Cosmetics. Yes, sir. And you have a cosmetics company in America. Oh, brother, you're crushing, you're crushing the game right now. Makeups might be everything.

But I did music for a long time. So I've been on the internet for 20 years since I was 16. That's a long time. Yes. So you found the internet as an outlet for you. All my successes, heartaches, headaches, failures. They've all been just thrown up everywhere. Yeah.

Was that difficult for you? you at first, like being on the internet and putting yourself out there because the job I'm in, you're out there and people are, you're being judged from a skill and a talent level, but not in a personal. You still care. There's ups and downs. I think I still get caught. I still get caught in the situation where if I play a game and there's 10 great comments

about me, but one negative comment. I tend to focus a lot on that negative comment. They blame you for ruining the game. Has that happened yet? Oh, all the time. I've played over 100 games in the NFL. I think it's happened over 100 times. That is the situation.

That's the world we live in. take it serious. Extremely. Like when their teams didn't make it the other day, the other day, what, a week ago, two weeks ago? About three, four weeks ago, right? It came for blood. Yeah. It is, it's really like that.

So do you, do you think you, in the beginning, struggle with the fact that people are seeing everything in your life being on the internet for 20 years where things can get dug up all the time, relived, re-vailed. I've been canceled 10 times. It's kind of like an after-party now. It's like a nice little, it's a season for you. Yeah, you're only canceled if you really let someone cancel you. Right.

I believe. Or if you actually do horrendous things, right? Yeah. There's been so many lives made up about me at this stage. I just don't care. You don't care. But in the beginning, did you care? Oh, yeah, of course.

Yeah. What was the hardest things for you that you struggled with people? Ooh. I think maybe not knowing who I was because in the old days, remember my space, like I really played into a character. So once I grew up, I let the real me out more and that's when I became way bigger. Yeah. When you say you struggled with who you really were, like who were you pretending to be

back then. Too outlandish. Like, shock. I was all about the shock value. Yeah. And you don't think you're still about the shock value. Maybe at a way lower level.

Brother, you, you were posting photos of you and an NFL player. Yeah. With a pistol and a silencer on it. Wasn't that cool? Yeah, it's badass. It's absolutely badass.

And it's like, that's very when it qualifies outlandish. I just love, at the end of the day, I'm a dude, right? I know I don't look like one sometimes, but I love gone sports,

it's hunting. I also love looking like this. So I think that it shocks people. And when did you find out that like, okay, if I just stick to my true self, then I'm solid? I've always been this way. Now you just said a second ago that you were a struggle with it for a little bit. No, no, that's very true. But I think just being me looking the way I wanted to be was just like this is who I am, either like me or don't. You know? Love that. Yeah. So I think, you know, and I'm not a snitch. So I think I'm still comfortable hanging out with me. Yeah. Because they know I'm not going to kiss and tell. How did you get into a position where you were titled as not a snitch?

Not a position. Well, there were positions. Time in the game. Yeah. Just getting reps after reps, boys. No. Yeah, I've just never, I just until I had a lot of rumors about me.

Like, everyone thought I fucked Kanye a year ago. Mitch brought that up. Mitch's girlfriend is a huge fan of yours. Did you fuck Kanye? No, he's so short. Ugh. Did he try to fuck you? No comment.

that's all I needed clip it boys and the interview is over yeah too short really what am I gonna do with that floss

I don't know come on stop Kim is so small shout out to Kim I love her she's so little I got it

yeah we're acquaintances right you guys have been around each other you're both in the same space yes and so during this space it could have been very easy

for a guy like Kanye to come up to you and try to catch hands yeah Mm-hmm. It was more so fun hooking up with his friends. Okay.

Fellow rappers, we'll say. Okay. I don't know. I'm a Scorpio. I'm a sexual person. And I had a nice, almost six-year relationship. And once that ended,

it was just back on the hoe train. You know? Back on the ho train for you. I was in love once. It was great. And now was time to get back to work. Yeah. Yeah.

I love that. So Kanye's friends. Yeah. They're in the game. Yeah. And it's easy for you. So, like, I feel like the gay community is tough. Because, like, you don't know who's gay and who's not.

Right. Did you, how do you figure out who's gay and who's not? In what sense? Like, if you walk into a bar, you walk in, you see all of us. Let's say Jack's gay. Jack doesn't look gay from the standpoint of, like, who you would say, oh, this person's gay. For a mustache ride. You know, yeah.

You do have a phenomenal mustache, buddy. Yeah. Thanks, fun. I needed that. But how do you weed through that? Because I'm literally, the reason why I ask these questions is because we live to completely different lives. Yes. And I'm literally actually sitting here trying to educate myself and the people listening.

Most of my friends, especially in Wyoming, I'll look like you guys. The gay population is so rare out there. Yeah. Yeah. But even before leaving here, because I've been in L.A. for 30 years, right? Most of my friends are straight. Yeah. And so how do you figure out who's gay?

You just ask. But a lot of guys can hook up and not be gay. They're just them. See, I think that's a controversial subject. I know. Like there's a phrase, you can be a painter. You can paint a thousand paintings and never be called the painter. But if you suck one dick, you're a cock sucker for life.

But what if you get your dick sucked and just like it? That's the game we're playing. A dude that likes getting their dick sucked. Yeah. By who cares who it is. I don't know. If you go back to the time of... It's so.

valid point. That is a good point. You don't have to complicate it. Yeah. We were really all put on this earth way back in the day as cavemen, right? And everyone was just fucking imprecating. There was no feelings and marriages and sensitivity and all this shit. We added that later. So men were put on this earth to fuck. And I'm that vessel.

It's just simple psychology. So when guys get bored of their whoever, maybe they want to go to something else or maybe they've never explored because of religion and politics and their, dumb parents teaching them that, hey, this is wrong and boys are blue and girls are pink. So now we live in a different world, I think. That's just not the case. You can open up your mind, your hands, your mouth, your legs, and you can just be yourself. It seems like religion is definitely like the key piece in that.

Like I've known people, I know an individual that was actually married at one point to a woman and was questioning a sexuality consistently. Let him went to conversion therapy because of from a religious standpoint. Oh, Lord. That's crazy. He ends up truly figuring out who he is. Yeah. And now he's gay and that's his, like, that's his deal. And he's super comfortable with where he is.

Okay. So. That's crazy. Yeah. But when do you think from a child's standpoint, when you're talking to somebody, they're a young, eight-year-old boy, like, we don't know. We have no idea what we want. We don't want.

I have no idea people who are gay if they say they were born that way or they came into it. Or they're going to be attracted to someone and they don't know what it means. Right. When do you think it's, it's like an appropriate time for to let that child, I guess, ask those type of questions and understand those types of things. They can ask them, but I think when a parent tries to direct them to a certain way, too young, not it.

Not it. Not it. If you're a daughter looks like a tomboy, it doesn't mean she wants to be a boy. I mean, she wants to explore her creativity and you should let her be her be her. Yeah, that's like a hard thing. Like the transgender thing is like, like, I just don't understand it. Yeah. So I just like, I do my best to be like, hey, people do whatever they want.

But I, they say like the brains not developed. There's so many layers. There's so many layers. Yes. All of you fucking hate it. No. It's just crazy. No, it's mentally complicated because our culture has made it more complicated.

Yeah. That's the problem. It seems like, yeah, it definitely seems that way because the brains not developed to 25. I might into all the other bullshit. I think. What other bullshit? The they and them. Yeah.

And all that extra shit that we added during the pandemic. Because everyone was so bored on their fucking houses. They just started to make up more shit. shit and more stuff, more stuff. Yeah. That's where the conservative is like me because I'm just real. Yeah, you do have a conservative vibe to you. You're not saying them. You're trans, your male or you're female. And you're standing on that.

So mad when I say that. How are you with they? What the fuck does that mean? As stupid is what it is. But you need someone like me that looks like me to say it. Because if you say it, it turns into you're homophobic. You hate trans people. You hate gays. And it's just how you feel. You don't hate anyone. You just think it's stupid.

Yeah, I could sit here. I can sit here comfortably on camera. and say, like, I truly just don't understand it. Yeah, and that's okay. But that's as far as I can go. Yeah, it doesn't mean you're a hateful. Yeah. And then you, like you said, like you are the perfect vessel for this type of situation. Yeah. Are you steamhead in that? Are you making sure that people know, hey, listen, there are no days and them? No, I haven't asked a lot about it because I love doing certain things like in the gun world or like, you know, and I go to a lot and do a lot of podcasts for things that not beauty related.

And I think that's what's fun. Yeah. You know. I got you. Yeah. Well, how did you start your beauty empire? Ooh. So I did music for a long time.

Yes. What kind of music did you do? So I was going to go to college to be a psychologist. Yeah. And then MySpace happened and I created a character and it went really big and viral before viral was a word. And I was like the first person to me, I call it me and Paris Hilton. We capitalized way back in the day on how to make money off of being a personality from internet and TV. Now, were you friends of Paris Hilton at this time?

Yeah. That's awesome. Still to the same. She's always been a real one. Really? That's awesome. I would love to see a photo of you two together. There's some on there.

Google. Do you know what that is? Good ones. You know what Google? Pop that up. Yeah. He's on OnlyFans right now. Yeah.

You said you're not on OnlyFans. Why would he be on OnlyFans if you're not on there? Are any of you actually subscribe to girls on there and it actually is usable or is it all a scam? I don't have an OnlyFans account. Someone's lying. It's a scam? I just don't. Like, I don't know. If you want to get off, why don't want to follow a creator and, like, pay the money and do all these things?

Like, it's just so... It's like cameo meets porn, right? That's like the whole idea behind it. So last year, they offered me a lot of money and I was going to do it. We shot some content. And then I was like, eh, this is not for me. Like, I don't need the money. No, yeah. Listen, we know. Yeah. Another thing to do. And I was like, no, that's not the route we're going. But if you're going to do it anyway and you're comfortable, why not? If you're going to fuck. Yeah, you don't mind being viewed fucking.

I have some great photos on my phone. We're in private jets, sucking dick, and all this stuff, and it was great fun. Thanks for taking those. But, you know, yeah, perfect lighting. Yeah, you do a phenomenal job of lighting. It would have been the best. If we had an extra one, that'd be nice. Make sure of all this.

Thank you. Yes, thank you very much. So you do all this content, you're on jets, we're sucking dick, we're having a great time. Penises are flying everywhere. And you think to yourself, I don't want to do Only Fans anymore. Yeah. Am that crazy? Yeah, why?

A secret folder on my phone because it just wasn't right, and my team was like, and my team was like, do you really want to do this? So I have an autobiography coming out at the end of the year. I'm working on a TV show for my ranch. I've raised 300 Tibetan yaks and I have camels and a full operation. And we, we sell meat. We're the biggest meat operation for yaks in America now. I've never consumed a yak before. The healthiest red meat in America. That's I felt this with everyone. That's what they said about bison. At one point, they said that about cows. I know, but the USDA is a liar. Just more, once there's more education. So I'm helping yak science right now with the University of Wyoming.

Yeah, you're slowly taking down the yak population. I'm vegetarian. Oh. I'm just kidding. I was going to be just trying to be unique in the situation. So MySpace comes out, you're like, hey, fuck the psychology thing. I'm done with this. Yeah, I mean, it just blew up.

So the music is what blew up. Yeah. Well, I think people, everyone just signing up to this crazy platform when social media was so new and green, it was the biggest site on the planet. And I was posting pictures, pretending to throw up cereal and all this fucking crazy shit. And I just became one of the number one people on. there. Yeah, you were a trailblazer for the viral community.

Yes. Before at all. So then I did music. You did music. And then it became I was... Were you any good? Yeah, it was fun. Was it... It was like Depeche Mode, punk rock, pop electronic. Got you. Yeah. Like a postal service type of vibe. Yeah. Okay.

We got really big, big independent. Then I signed with Acon. Convic music. There's pictures of me, Paracelt and Acon on Google. Is Acon? Shout out to Acon. Oh yeah. Hey, Kesha. Really? Hell yeah. And by Jack, Jack from the back, back ropes there. Keshwin went to Jack's high school. That's right. Tennessee?

Yeah. Wow. That's cool. I love it out there. Yeah. You see you out there for Beretta conference every year. Am that cool? So makeup got me into the gun world and all these cool things. Yeah. The head of Beretta, Mr. Beretta, his girlfriend is a beauty influencer in Italy. And she loves my page. So living in Wyoming, we can actually, you know, open carry, you can still carry.

You can have a silencer on your gun next to you in the seat. And it's normal. In L.A., you'd probably get shot and killed. Yeah, you can only have like three rounds in L.A. Anyway, horrible. So I post a Beretta and my cup holder with my Red Bull. Like, good morning, everyone, because I find that I can post these things now and buy them. So she sees it, shows him, and Barretta reposted me.

And I was like, this is my one shot, baby. So I go, hey, would you all want to do a custom pink gun for me? And they were like, yeah, when do you want to fly to Italy, we'll fly you here. Oh, no. We've done two projects now, and I'm just like, they're unreal. What was that process like going over there? Like other facilities? It's incredible.

Yeah. So they're one of the only gun manufacturers that are family owned still. So for 500 years, they're all the wars. They are stayed to themselves. Just kept it in the family the entire time. They do over a billion dollars in, sorry, in firearms a year. It was nuts. So I'm very big into guns.

Yeah, I figured that out in the small time. I did no homework on this episode. at all. So I'm like, I think like 120 now. So they made me a custom pistol and then they just did me a submachine gun at X-4. No, let me play devil's advocate. Let me be the person that doesn't like the Second Amendment. I like the Second Amendment. Let me play this. Who needs 120 guns? A collector. Someone that's filthy, rich, and fucking bored. Say less. Seems like you've done that. I'm so tired of that at that question. It's not from you. Just, well, it's the first time I've asked it. I don't need anything. I don't need, you know what I mean?

I want it. That makes sense. The American way. I know. People, when foreigners come and visit, they think it's so crazy at how many guns are in Wyoming. We're like 10, 10 per capita per house. For real.

It was like 15 houses in Wyoming. In America, that has the sanctions if the government took our guns away, which will never happen probably. That Wyoming is clear, clear and free. Oh, for real? Yeah, we're going to the pink bunker. You're not taking my shit. No doubt.

What if, what would you do if, if two guys showed up to your house. They said, and they're not there for that. They said, we'll get to that in a second. But we want all your guns. Put them in the back right here. Oh, they're trespassing,

so they're getting blasted. Hello. Stand your fucking ground mom. I would love that comment. Are you kidding me? Officer, I'm scared for my life. Bang. Yeah. Just like that.

Bang. See, I'd be scared about that. I'm kind of a pussy when it comes to that. No one's going to trespass. I have a thousand acres. I have big gays. and the security guard and cameras and motion detectors. Yeah, no one's getting any.

Yaks are really friendly to me, but they'll gore you. Really? Yeah. I don't know anything about Yax. I ain't got nothing. So MySpace is blown up. I feel like we're all over the place on this thing. It's okay.

MySpace is blown up. Things are going good. You're faking, throwing up cereal. You're doing a band that resembles Blinklin A2 meets the postal service. Some 41's touched in there a little bit. And throughout it all, I don't reach the success that I think I should be at. I'm signing. What numbers are we talking about to reach the success?

Like low album sales, but concerts sold out. There's thousands of people. The merch sales are insane. So I sign a deal. And it doesn't go according to plan. And I become a slave to the music industry like Kesha and like all these others. And I get controlled. Sheep.

And my career gets ruined. They don't do anything that I want. And they just dumb down everything. They like how crazy I am. And then they want to ruin my vision and make it like Disney punk. So it's just like. Oh. And that made you go to.

I was heartbroken. I was depressed. It was awful. I was in this little two bedroom apartment in NoHo just stuck. Like, what the fuck? So I quit, fired everyone. And I was like, I want to go back to what I love. And that's makeup.

So I asked a friend for a loan and I took my life savings that I had and made three lipstick colors. That was 2014. And now I've probably sold almost 20 million lipstick since then. And it's just been insane. Yeah. I started as just like a little whim on e-commerce on my little site. and it sold out in 20 minutes. I paid the guy back in five minutes.

That's crazy. And then I invested. A lot of these people that get new money, they just blow it all. They want to be cool on Instagram. They want the cars to close the jewelry. All that's great if you can actually afford it. And half of these people can't.

Yeah, they're leased. They're on lease. They're leased. They're leased. Because once the money goes away, she's fucking his homie. Yeah. They're all on lease.

What's her name? She'll probably be gone soon someday. That girl that was getting pissed at you, the NFL girl. I don't want to say her name again. I feel bad saying her name. I don't want to gas her, dude. Henry Anderson, sorry, Bob.

I'm heartbroken. We're going through this. If she's pregnant and she's ever bored and too tired and he needs a substitute, call me. Yeah. And then we can connect that. I have your number now. My DMs are open.

Open for business. What's scary, though, is since all this has happened and I posted my friend, other players have hit me up. No way, dude. I'll show you a few off camera. That's what I was going to say. You did say you're going to show. me a couple things as long as I'm trustworthy.

I don't know how I'm doing in that situation. We'll find out at the end of this whole thing. You're sociopathic a little bit. Psychology major. You are. You are a little. That is Tanner. He is absolutely sociopathic. Yeah. Like you don't like humans much, but you like animals. Yeah. Tanner likes humans.

Tanner's one of the guys. He's related or no? No. No. Tanner and I've known since we were five years old. Vigotine? Zin? Do you want one? Stop. You want one? What is that?

A pouch? Yeah, it's a pouch. Right here? Yeah. Oh my God, my ranch hands use this. They always need extra. There's salt to the earth people. You want to try one?

Absolutely not. They're outstanding. I've never even smoked a cigarette. Oh, that's right. We did have, but this is not a cigarette. This is a nicotine. Oh, no. I don't know if you follow biohackers at all, but they say that nicotine's good for focus and multitasking.

So. I also said that about anal. There it is. That's how I've created a billion dollar company. Through anal? Yeah. It's really worth a billion dollars? Or are you fluffing it up for us a little bit?

The makeup brand? I was in 800 million. I'll lower it. I'll lower it. That sucks. I thought it was a billion. I'll be modest. Not a billionaire.

It's the low millionaire at 8. What was your thought process when you decided I'm not making enough money? I'm not as famous as I want to be. Okay. I'm not as famous as I want to be. I'm going to go and take the sleep of faith and do Husmex. You've already said you're a confident individual, but there's ever a time you're like questioning.

Am I able to do this? I stopped being confident with the music. So I was like, wow, I really got to do something that makes me happy. Yeah. So I was like, I love makeup. This is what I've always been good at. I used to do makeup on celebrities and musicians and all these things. But I'm like, I want to create a line and be like the future of beauty.

So I started this brand. And then I saw what was happening on social media. And YouTube was really big back then, 2015, 16, 17, 18, and all that. Yeah. So I hopped on that train and became the biggest beauty YouTuber. I was like, let me just try this. And I saw it at the other people. people are doing and they're all so fucking boring.

They're all liars. And I'm like, what the hell? So I started YouTube. Now we're billions of views later. And I just quit eight years later. No way. Three months ago, I quit. Why'd you quit?

Burnt out. You don't seem like a person that gets burnt out easily. For as many orgies. I've done it all. For as many orgies? Yeah, that you've done. You feel like... A lot of massages after.

Yeah. You seem like a worker. I love working. Yeah. 24-7. Yeah. Yeah. And so you just, you're over the YouTube game.

It's done. I've done it all. I show. I showed every aspect of my life. So do you feel fulfilled? Do you feel fulfilled from a fame standpoint? Yes. You do?

Yeah. Is it everything you thought it would be? And what's that? Fame? Yeah, because I think when we're all kids, I would sit there when I was five, 10 years old thing, I'm going to be a pro baseball player.

I'm going to be famous actor or something like that. And then you see the internet and you think that all these things that these people have are fulfilling, and they're not that fulfilling. But no one wants to hear that when they're struggling. Yeah. I think Jim Carrey says,

I don't know like an asshole. No. When you buy everything you've ever wanted, it doesn't actually fulfill you. Yeah. Like it's fun, obviously. It's fucking awesome. You're looking like cosmetic Dan Bolzerian. Yes.

Less steroids. Less steroids. Yeah. Less STDs. Got zero. Jim Carrey has a line where he says that he wishes everybody can become successful and famous to realize that's not what really matters. Yeah. So you do all this shit.

You're extremely successful human being. You literally have an autobiography coming about yourself. You're a stud. Thank you. Where do you find? your fulfillment. Oh, so during the pandemic, I wasn't being fulfilled anymore. I had done everything I ever wanted to do. And I really wanted land and to be around animals and I really wanted to be a rancher.

I know it sounds so out of pocket, but I love challenges. I feel like nothing's out of pocket at this point. So I've already done so much what was next. So I bought a lot of land and I bought a few animals and then I saw the vision and just became obsessed with ranching. And then I was like, well, how do we make money? Because I can't just sit around and enjoy anything, sadly. It's my problem. and yak meat is such a niche market and it's so healthy.

I was like, I want to make yak meat. So. How did you find out it's such a healthy? Googling and meeting yak ranchers and like, where are the yak ranchers? Wyoming, Colorado, yeah.

Oh, for real. Yeah. So you were coming in there on their turf. Oh, yeah. Some of them are mad. I bet, dude. There's like 45 people that live in Wyoming.

Like, you pissed off of them at least. I know. They hate me. Do you get looks when you're walking down the street? You know, the town? A lot of people just want photos or pick,

you know. They know who you are. And they're really cool. People in Wyoming are really sweet. Like if your car breaks down, there'll be 10 people to help you. Or if you're in L.A., they're like, ha, ha, die. Yeah, yeah, dude. That's a lawless place.

Yeah. Do you think you'll ever go back to L.A.? No, I was there yesterday and I felt nothing. Fair enough. Yeah. That is a fair enough statement. Yeah. Shout out to all my amazing employees.

I have 100 employees that ship makeup all day and help me run my business and make things come to life. If you're done with YouTube and all that. TikTok and Instagram or the new thing. The new thing. I mean, TikTok is obviously the future. I don't have to TikTok. See, I tried that game and you got to evolve. But you don't have to. You play sports for a living.

Not for long. I'm old now. Stop. I am. For my profession, I am a old person. Is he? I'm watch. Wow. How are your joints? All right. I had ACL surgery 17 weeks ago yesterday. Wow.

My second one in three years. Turn my head to the left too fast. It hurts a little bit. I got this finger. This little boy right there is still broken. the thumb. That's busted. Huh. But those are those are these cool war stories I get to tell now. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Hopefully the concussions don't like take me out.

And what, but you have a very successful podcast. So what's after sports? I don't know. That's a great question. I think, uh, the reason why, part of the question of fulfillment is I'm looking for the same thing as well. Married. I have two kids. That part of my life is extremely fulfilled. But, and this is amazing. I wish Will could be here because I think you'd really enjoy Will. Where is he? He is in Tucson, Arizona getting his passport. We're going to Cabo. on Wednesday. Oh, on Wednesday.

Yeah, you coming? I can. Yeah. There's an extra room. Yeah. Well, I was going to give it to you guys, but now that. What's the purpose of the trip? Hang out, relax.

Have you been to Cabo? Of course. You said, guess we're booked? Yeah, I guess we're going. Well, I'm friends with the cartel, so if you need anything, just text me. I will absolutely text you. I will absolutely text you on that. But that's, I do wonder, like, what?

See, we're actually crazy where we would go because we can. We will be there, the 15 to the 19th. Once Will gets his dick suck like that, he's never coming home. I don't know, dude. You know, I know. I can see it in his eyes. He won't come home. I can see in his eyes. Porn he will, dude.

There was a plan why God didn't want him here today. God saved him? Yeah. Man. I can only imagine how he would have to handle that situation. Yeah. Yeah, you guys should come. We're on Will's lap right now, I feel like.

You think so? Yeah. He used to have a smoke, do you have? He'd be making me some more. Have you seen Will? Not in person. Have you seen photos of him? Yeah.

Have you seen photos of him before his teeth? No. Have you seen photos of me before my teeth? No. No. You have your teeth done? Come on. I'm getting my teeth done in a couple.

Yeah, those are fantastic. But mine are like the best. They're not blocky or weird looking. Did you ever get worried about getting too white though? They don't look too white. I'm saying that that's like my fear because I'm getting my teeth done in a few weeks. Oh, are you really? Yeah, I'm very excited.

Who's getting it? Who's doing it? I mean? Some guy in Nashville, Tennessee. Do you have somebody for me that I should do instead? Yes. And they're in Atlanta and they're way better. No offense to your shitty dentist.

Look at that, look at that. Oh, wow. Yeah, he's from Bontara, Missouri. Yeah, give the boy his flowers, bro. Everyone on the I Am a Killer on Netflix is from Missouri. It makes sense. It makes sense. We will be in Tago.

No, my teeth are bad. What are you actually doing there, though? The wife's coming. Yeah, my tanner's coming, my sociopathic friend. He actually kind of lives in Cabo right now. My brother-in-law's coming. He looks at me in the eyes. It's like he wants to eat me, like, tear me apart.

I think he's maybe interested. Very domer. That's his teeth now. Yeah. It's a much, it's an upgrade like you've never seen before, huh? It's weird. Like went from a three to a seven. You think he's just a seven?

Yeah. Kids got ass, though. See, I like ass on a straight guy. Yeah. It's a must. Kids got ass. Uh-huh. But yeah, Tanner's going.

Quinn's going. My wife's going. And Will's wife is going. Who's watching the kids? My nanny's watching the kids. You know. I'm not right. What's that?

So privileged. Yes, absolutely. People watching my eight dogs right now. You have eight dogs? Yeah. And I have 300 yaks. Yeah, the yaks, I feel like you just let them out there. Moregles.

You can me check them every once in a while. But eight dogs sounds like such a ridiculous responsibility. They're little. They're Polarans. They're awesome. They're all a unit. They're a team. I'm a big Chihuahua guy. You don't like Twalas?

Dude, I think they're awesome. Get matching hoodies and shit. You don't think they're shit, though? But Pomeranians are like yaks. They're really diva and they have big hair and they look luxurious. Yeah, I don't like Pomeranians. I feel like asshole.

Wow. It wasn't all going to be sunshines and rain was with us. So what's going to happen? Are you still, you said I'm done with YouTube. Yeah. So with cosmetics,

where are you going with that now? What is the next thing for your brand? So the pandemic kind of fucked up the beauty industry and now it's finally coming back. Well, how did it fuck up the beauty industry though? That was great though.

You did well. No, like as far as like people were all stuck indoors and they weren't going. out. They weren't going anywhere. Everyone was wearing masks. They don't wear as much makeup. They weren't going out every night. They weren't doing get-readies. Um, and skincare skyrocketed and self-care. So I think everyone looked in the mirror and was like, oh, wow, I look like shit. Or maybe I should care about myself a little more. So makeup cell was really slumped. We did really great. I think because my brand's innovative. Our formulas are amazing. And I'm just

fucking crazy. So, um, but the future is just expanding this brand. We're nine years this year in November. It's a long time. That is a long time. Do you take a focus in your brand to make sure it's like more of the holistic side or beauty is the number one thing? What do you mean? Like you see

like if you take medicine for instance, people are now walking away from the standard doctors even from vaccines with kids and I give them all those complex things are going more holistically. The vaccine make you shake too? I'm just kidding.

Oh my God. I'm saying... My makeup brand is like vegan and la la la, la, but I don't dive into the crazy everything. I don't, yeah. I'm not Lanish. I can't have crazy boring packaging. And recyclable packaging is great. I don't know with that.

It's not for you, though. I was more talking about what's in the stuff. Oh, no. Everything's good and it's very clean. Yeah. Yeah. Man, I might need to get my hand on some of that stuff. No. Yeah, we don't test on animals.

We test on married guys, really. That's what some of the packaging says. I'll have to be your next plan. You don't torture bunnies. You torture men. I will be next. Yeah. We did talk about doing something like that.

I think it'll be very funny. Can you guys imagine him in a full face of makeup? I think I would look fantastic. You have really good. That's a good start. The base is good. I've been doing a lot of face stuff, so I thank you for noticing. Is your wife helping you?

Yes. I would not have ever known. Please do. Yeah. I told you before. Because a lot of brands, their shit sucks. And it's just some dumb celebrity. It sounds like your shit's the best and no other brand is even worth it.

He gets it. There it is. The Kardashians. Yep. They also do makeup and all that stuff. I sure do. Did they do it before you or after you? Oh, that's a...

Both. Because there's so many different ages now. Yeah. Fucking harem over there. Was there... You said you guys are friends. Was there a level of like... Is there competitive or you're still friends about it?

Because I have a huge brand, but I also review makeup for a living and people really trust me. So when I was reviewing the brand, I think I did. definitely tarnished and fucked up a lot of people's sales. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.

If you say it's bad, it's bad. They're going to believe you. Yes. You have 60 million subscribers on YouTube or whatever it is. It's crazy. Yeah. It's fucking wild. Yeah. Love and hate.

Love or hate. So do you, are you guys cool with that whole situation or is it kind of like a go? Yeah. Well, when we've all seen each other, it's normal now. But I felt, but imagine though you wake up, this is, I guess, similar to what's happening recently. And Kim's just sees a rumor that her husband's fucking. me. Like, that's probably annoying.

That's probably, yeah, we talk for her. Karen kind of made a joke about it. Which is the best way to handle shit. Why would you lash out when you know your man's not? Unless he is. He's been on a few trips and went baking. So. But you said you would never. You wouldn't even floss with that.

With who? Oh, I was going to my Henry. Oh, Henry. Yeah. Oh, Hennis. It always comes back to Henry. Dude, I feel so bad, Henry. I apologize. There's a few other ones I felt really bad for. Sorry, Cole. Oh, no. Look at Cole. Find out who Cole is.

Cole who? Is that the dude that's a tight end? For the Bears. I thought that was him. Really? Yeah. Maybe it is. It's not. It's not. It's not. Just kidding, Cole. It's not you. You give me a letter? Oh, stop. Come on, dude.

The world's going to explode. That's all I want. I'm just kidding. Oh, poor Cole. I was going to reach out to him and say sorry, but what if he actually wants to hang out? Then that's a dub for you and if you're interested. What does he look like? Can we pull him up? Is he? We'll see about that.

Yeah, I saw Buddy's tummy when you posted that photo I was like, Buddy was jacked up, whoever you were with in Wyoming. And he said he knew me. That makes it all so much more interesting. We'll tell him in Cabo.

Yeah, Cabo, 15th to the 19th. Have you been to Cabo? You've obviously been to Cobbo. You're a world traveler. It's not the greatest place. The mansion next door, do you guys available for me to rent? So, right there, dude.

Got some good beefy arms. Yeah, he's pretty hot actually. He looks like an all-American boy. Is this one single or no? Perfect, dude. He's low-key. Really? Hmm.

Who says that? Fucking Google. Google says I'm 6-1 and I'm 6-foot, so someone's lying on that. How are you? Just 6-foot. Just 6-foot? Yeah. That was a product of conversation.

I don't know why I'm not attracted to short people. Really? Yeah. Man. I feel like I need to get, I have to think of more stuff because this is awesome. but I also don't know what I'm not asking. Go ahead, Jackie. I'm going to repeat the question.

This is from our good friend Jordan Smith back home. Hey, Jordan. To ask Jeffrey if Michaela used fake eyelashes and her L'Oreal, telescopic, lift, TikTok, hashtag mascaragate. So for all of the men who have no idea what I just said, can you set the scene? Yeah. Please explain that.

I have no idea. Team player drama or team dramas. In the beauty world, there's personality dramas. and someone allegedly recently did a review. It was a paid sponsorship. And it said paid sponsorship really tiny. We can barely see it. And these girls are getting like $250,000 per post

from these brands, if not more. I would do that. Yeah, but would you, if your audience trusts you, would you lie to them, ruin your integrity, and just do it for the cash? No, I was just thinking about. Yeah, maybe. See, I wouldn't.

Well, it depends what I'm lying about. I wouldn't. I don't think I can lie about that would ruin the integrity if I am. kind of obvious. She still hasn't addressed it. So I say allegedly because there really is no final answer. I've asked for an answer. I've been put on red. Really? Which kind of gives us the answer we have. And what's her name, McKenzie? I can't.

Michaela's grave. I just think she lied in her ad. So it turned into this really big thing. And then I came out of the woodwork and said, hi, you're, you know, you're full of shit. Do you know this person? Yes. I'm the queen of review. and I felt there was some lies happening, you know? So I don't think these people should take a check because they already get so many opportunities, so many free makeup trips and brands.

There's so many things they get and they could do pay things in an organic way and not lie. They should just pay you. It seems like you'll give the straight answer every single time. Well, this is the mascara was actually great and she didn't need to lie. So that's why I don't understand it. People want to look better.

What's your worst product you sell? My worth? Yeah, what's the stuff that's not good? I can say we're talking about being on. us. Whatever your stuff sucks. None of it. No, come on. I swear. I swear, am I dead?

There's got to be one thing you just don't love. We have, we have, we have a year that I'm not a huge fan of. We shouldn't have made it. I'm not going to say. Wow. There's some gear that I just wouldn't wear. Huh?

I'm just saying. But I'm not the one. It's not for us. It's for the people. We're for the boys. More ways than one now. Absolutely. So there's nothing that you think isn't,

I'm so proud of my brand and all my formulas. I'm, think of anything where I'm like, ugh, because I only put out things I want to do and I can afford to make it exactly how I want, which I'm grateful for. Have you guys looked up the Twitter questions?

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Oh, I think my first product, I had no idea would ever turn that big. It was a liquid lipstick. There's only a few on the market at the time, which is a product that's liquid. It goes on, and then it doesn't move. So you can eat pizza. You can give head.

You can talk for hours. And the formula stays put. So my formula went really viral. It's the best one on the market. Still. To this day. Yeah. That was a great question, JP.

That was a fantastic question. Yeah. And so the liquid lipstick made me wealthy, I will say. It's a catapulted the brand. I love that. Yeah. Before we get into those questions, Mitch did bring up something about you being involved at the Illuminati. What about it?

I've heard you're involved. Are you? Absolutely not. I'm not near famous enough to do that. You don't have to be famous. How do I get in? Well, turn the cameras off. Cut that.

Like, make it go black For a second And then bring it back Dun dun dun dun Is the Illuminati? Is the Illuminati Is the Illuminati real? Yes.

Are there any other secret societies Other than Illuminati That maybe don't get as much press? Yeah, but they're evil And I don't fuck with them. Okay, so the Illuminati is not evil. They don't do Like blood

sacrifices. See, the problem is when there's people in control of anything, they get greedy, egos. so they ruin things and they make it evil. Care to elaborate? No. Okay. Fair enough.

And is the Illuminati, like, celebrity-based or are there politicians also involved with that? It's just money-based. And then the celebrities are used as a vessel. Okay. All right. How much money does someone have to make to be in? Or what you're willing to do to not be broke anymore. What does that mean?

Yeah. You speak in riddles. Like you give me just enough where I'm like, I don't know. You have to so I don't get my plane bombed or killed later, you know? It's your fear for your life when you're speaking right now. And it kind of turns me on. I love living on the edge. Like, you never know if you're going to get JFK'd.

That is. Have you ever worried about that? Has there ever been a time you're like, fuck someone might besides that wife? Mm-hmm. Yeah? She's not really going to do shit. Has there ever been in time? That you're cared of comments on that you were worried that people were actually going to try and kill you.

Was there ever a time? Maybe. I don't know. I mean, I tested the waters recently to see if you know who would come after me. How'd you test the waters? Just by saying a few things. What'd you say? Because I left LA and I broke ties with a lot of people and I stopped fucking with a lot of...

They were also in Illuminati. Yeah. So I'm still here. For now. For now. Yeah. What if I get killed on this trip? You get the last interview.

You're welcome. Thank you so much. That would be, hey, numbies for the boys. Numbies. We're actually the ones contracted to kill you and we just lured you into this podcast. Let's go. This is it.

How do you want to go out? How do you want to die? Full firing squad. While I'm nutting. Yeah. Do you have something covering your eyes, cigarette in the mouth or no? I don't know. T-bagged.

There's nothing like being teabagged on a Sunday morning. Yeah. Right before I turn. on the game. The big game. Yeah. When your boys playing in. Before the playoffs happened

because he's not going to make the playoffs. No, his team's fucking dumb. His team's bad. No, they're great. What was the record this year? Oh, my God. I can't. I can't.

No, no, I'm not here to expose a fellow player. You say what? What? I said his name. He weren't listening. Oh, God. Well, we got it. Run it back, boys.

Run it back. What questions do we have? Who's going to win the Super Bowl? Philadelphia Eagles. Oh. Yeah. Who do you think he won the Super Bowl? I don't know.

I really don't know. I was surprised those teams were the last two. Why? Kansas said you can't ever bet against and the Philadelphia Eagles are possibly the best most well-puted the last year. 19 and the chiefs were there? Sidion?

The Super Bowl was in Miami, what year? A few years ago? I went to that one. That was three years ago. That was Chiefs won. I was there. Yeah, it was fun. That was cool.

The Chiefs won? So do you think the Chiefs are going to win? Yeah. But a lot of my employees from my brand, love the Eagles. So they're... Why do they love the Eagles? Because they're from...

A lot of them from Philly for some reason. And they're... Terrifying fan base. I know. They're a terrifying place. What questions we have for Mr. Jeffers are? Who is your dream hookup?

Oh, wow. I can't believe. I didn't think of that question. I already had it. Wyoming? Yeah. They have several Grammys and they're in the hip-hop category. And they will massacre me if I say their name. Because they're also in Illumani. It's Jay-Z.

No. Uh-uh. Oh, about Jay-Z. Do you know Jay-Z? No. No. You're not in the Luminati then.

He's not in. I don't know what's going on over there. Hip-hop's weird. They're all weird. Why do you say that? They're all freaks. They're all into everything. And there's just a lot of weird stuff going on over there.

We should say more? NFL is a lot more safer. I feel like the NFL being safer. Like, in what way is the NFL safer? There's less games and trickery and weird shit. But what trick were we talking about? Is it sexual trickery? No, just like, like the hip-hop community, like the lifestyle.

Mm-hmm. It's just different. It's a way different game. Yeah. And then the NFL is not as much that game. It's more fun. They're more simplified. Yeah.

It's an objective, like, goal sport. Yes. Okay. What else we got? Oh. Go ahead, Mitch. This is coming from Mitch's girlfriend. She's okay with anything that happens.

Say we're making an O-F. How come you guys decided to get camels on the ranch? Isn't that crazy? That's outstanding. I've always wanted one. I went to Egypt before. I've traveled the whole world. And I think camels are so cool.

They're really smart, smarter than horses. And I'm like, what cool, weird shit can I get out here? Everyone has horses and cows and long horns. And I'm like, which is great. There's no camel. Yeah. No, but I have the two humped camels. So they're called Bactrian camels. Backtree and camels. Two humps. And it's all fat and energy stored in there. It's not water. That's what I was actually, I would have thought. There was water. There's no coconut juice or water in there.

Yeah. They're just really cool. They're an investment. They're really pricey and they're very exotic. How do they handle themselves in the wintertime? Great. Yeah? No problem. 25 degrees out today. Just ripping around. Yeah. How often do you travel? Like, how often are you away from your ranch? Lately, not a lot. But it's New Year. And I love. love traveling, so we're back on the horse. Okay. All right. Going back to when you got canceled 10 times.

Yeah. Why were you canceled? For old dumb shit, I said. Yeah. Same thing. And I think it was when the pandemic was like at its highest and everyone was really bored. And like, we're going to come for blood and rehash everything again. And it's like, oh my God.

People who were dead were getting canceled. Yeah. It was so bizarre. Poor Elvis. Oh, my God. For him. I think they came for Sinatra for a little bit. Elvis tattooed on my chest.

Really? Yeah. I got Sinatra tattooed on my hand. There you go. There you go. Do you like the movie? Yes. I thought it was fantastic. Great.

Yeah, that director does an amazing job. I told it. Absolutely. Peace, Lisa Marie. Would you ever want to do acting? Yeah, I'm really good at it. Yeah? So why don't you do it?

We're slowly talking. So we'll see. Do you see what I'm talking about when you say you're talking riddles? Yes. I do know that. No, so I have been branching out to certain things to ask questions, like what TV shows. You know, because there's always. casting calls and things and I thought acting

like a whole different role like imagine me on like sons of anarchy and I'm like a methed out biker gang you know what I mean I want to do something so left field and not look pretty. That would be outstanding. So you're talking to people that I'm not allowed to know and you're going to get that done. Do we have the same agent?

I don't know. Who are you with? Are you with? CA. So we'll see. Bam. I love it. They're outstanding. Why not WME? Not for you. Don't like the new management. Cunts.

Rodeo Drive. I want to do acting. I think it would be really fun. Yeah. Something really left you. What would be a dream role or an actor or an actress you want to work with? Leo? Oh, God.

Leo? Yeah. No. He's an Illuminati. Oh, God. Yeah? They spit him out. Oh, that's tough.

Not for Leo. I don't like him. He likes little girls. But I... Mm-mm. That's not for you. In your 50s dating in 19. 18 year old, that's not okay.

That's disgusting. Well, technically it is okay because 18, 17 would not be okay. I can't. But 18's okay. Not mentally. I'm a big Leo fan. I think his movies are great. I just think he's a date a little older and find happiness.

Yeah. I think there was a, oh, I'm not going to go to the rumors because I don't know Leo. Uh-uh. See, the helicopter said, uh-uh. No, that's not going to happen. Probably TMZ right now. So who would be, who would be somebody you'd want to work with?

Ooh. I like all these new, like, big shows. like euphoria and stuff like that with these new like the up and comers like the Austin kid I love him he's the Austin kid what's his character isn't it Austin of this character? Oh god yeah

the shaped head yes from that 70 show? No! That's a great that I fucking love that show that's a Fez I know Agnes I like these new people not I mean

or you can be like Johnny Depp I have Edward Sisser hands tattooed on me. That's my favorite movie. Johnny Depp is outstanding. Willie Wonka, are you kidding? Do you want his side during the trials? Yeah, of course. Yeah, it seems like everybody was.

Come on. Amber Herb seems like she really just like... Awful. Sheld herself the door. Awful. She really that bad. Do you know her? No.

Well, I'll say she's awful too. Then you're awful, Amber. Just from what I've seen. So Jack just asked, who are some celebrities you met that you had high expectations for that let you down and vice versa, correct? That's a good one. That is good. That's why I had a crew around me.

I never let people let me down as far as that. Because everyone always says, don't meet your heroes. So I met like Madonna and Britney Spears and all these people. And I never like expect them to be great. So when they are, I think it's awesome because I think there's so many egos and crazy personalities out there. Yeah. So I think meeting those like pop icons or even Lady Gaga for them to acknowledge me or even reach out like, hey, thanks for reviewing my product. Like you're fucking awesome.

Like that's cool. I mean I think they're still humbled. Yeah. So all the pop divas have been really cool. I really haven't had a bad experience. know that's shocking. But I think all the people that if I've tried to meet them and they don't want to, they just tell their publicist, I don't want to meet that crazy bitch.

And that's over. Yeah. So I really like that more than a fake hug. Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. I don't like me. That's all good.

I don't think I've ever had a bad encounter with anybody. I probably haven't met half the people you have, but. I don't spend that time in L.A. like that. You should. No, you just said it's a hellhole. Why would I go there now? Money? Everything.

There's a lot of business to do there. Yeah. I think there's a time and a place to go there, but to plant your flag in the ground and be there. If you're not already there, yeah, no. Yeah, that does not need to happen. What do you think? I thought you were going to ask a question. JPS, is there anything you miss about life, pre-fame, and all this?

I'm just thinking about how broke and miserable I was. Fuck no. Yeah. Yeah, being, having money is. I like being disruptive and I don't like peace and quiet. So, like, yeah. It's an outstanding question. I don't think I miss it.

anything. That's a great question. Is there ever a time that you're like just going to be done with everything and walk away? I haven't hit those feelings yet. Never? But you walk away from YouTube. I'm on the internet. 20 years on the internet. That's a long time. That is a long time. You're like me in the NFL.

I still love it. Yeah. But you got away from YouTube though. Does YouTube ever make it come back for you? I don't know. Right now, no. But a lot of the old YouTubers are trying to come back. Yeah. The viewership's just not there and the beauty space is ruined. So, podcasts are great.

great for YouTube, beauty, deceased. Do you have a podcast? No, but I don't you do one. I've been offered. Yeah, you should absolutely do one. I don't know the right fit. Hi, Barstool. I think Barstool would be,

Barstool would be great for you. I want to do like a Dr. Drew, like, sex show. Yeah, I don't even know who that is. Dr. Drew and Adam Carolla. Someone has to know what love line is. Brother, I'm tapped out in that mark. So if you're on social media, you go into your comments and it's just crazy.

It's completely hectic. Like on one side, it's extreme hatred, the other side. It's loving and a massive support. And we talked about it earlier, how you see 10 good comments and one bad comment. Yep. How do you handle the hate side? For me personally, I was chuckling because I think I've experienced too much online trauma where I just don't care. You're calloused over it.

Dead inside. It does not affect you at all anymore. No, I've just heard everything across the board for so long. I'm like waiting for some new insults. But no, I don't take it personal because I've never scrolled on any. any app and left someone a negative comment. I don't understand it. I just don't have that personality.

It's people punching up. Yeah, but if you don't care about someone or you don't like them, I guess it's just so easy to just keep going. Just stop and like, you know, everyone says waste time. I know writing something takes 10 seconds, but it's just such wasted energy. Yeah. You know, so I don't really care.

I've heard it all. It's outstanding. I hear it's a reflection on them and their misery and they're just lashing out at me because I'm successful in getting banged. bangbuss.com Free ad for bangbuss. Bangbros. Unless we got anything else from the boys,

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