Bussin' With The Boys - Jelly Roll
Episode Date: April 14, 2021Recorded: April 12, 2021 | Rapper, singer, reformed drug dealer, self-proclaimed white trash piece of shit, and NASHVILLE LEGEND: it's the boy Jelly Roll! After way too long, Jelly and The Boys finall...y figured out a time to get on the bus together, and it yielded the miraculous pod we all knew it would be. The three boys start out with some classic dick talk, followed by a quick brainstorm session where Jelly Roll comes up with a BIG business idea, and then Taylor shares a story about catching his mom doing something he wishes he could unsee. Next, Jelly takes The Boys on a deep dive into the music industry and explains why labels are milking artists dry and how his next deal could change the way artists do business forever. Then, The Boys explain how NFL trades happen, why certain moves sometimes get leaked to the press before even the players find out, and they discuss the ins and outs of negotiating contracts in the league. Finally, Jelly opens up about his dark past (including missing the birth of his daughter while he was in prison) and how it prepared him to handle the success that he has found in music over the years. TIER 1's: Lock in for the boys. Find a Tier 2 and tell them that this is their chance to step it up. This episode is almost 2 HOURS of solid pod, and it's comin' in hot as soon as you press play. ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Canopy Fan: You can save 15% today! Go to https://barstool.link/CanopyFan and use coupon code BUSSIN and save 15% with free shipping in the lower 48! Dynamism ONE Championship: ONE on TNT II airs this Wednesday night right after AEW Dynamite at 10pm ET/PT Georgia Boot: Head over to https://barstool.link/GeorgiaBootBussin and use code BUSSIN for 20% off...For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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How big does Chubbies get to?
I think they do it's just Chubbies.
I think it's just Chubby.
I think it's just chubby.
Okay.
There's a difference between chubby's and fatties and I get left out right between that
mark.
You should make fatties.
Yeah, that's it.
Come out of the line.
Yeah, absolutely.
You're small as a double X.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
That's it.
The small stuff.
Yeah, baby.
You're welcome.
We'll take 10%.
you ride with that.
Yeah, 100%.
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But now to the episode, Jelly Roll, he was phenomenal.
Bussing with the boys.
Oh, I mean, strong lead up, and then it's over.
You got to watch her as the show.
We're not giving you anything else.
Sponsored by them?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm not officially sponsored.
DJ just sends me boxes of it.
Oh, DJ, we're on the basis.
That's my boy.
That's my boy.
That's my dog.
Really?
You don't know, I'm calling him DJ.
I'm calling my bad DJ.
You know what?
So you've met him.
You've been around the guy.
You know what?
I haven't met him.
We've just talked a lot.
So, you know, he went to,
he went to school here when it, like his earlier teenage years.
Oh, I didn't know that.
And he found the music and was like, he hit me up with a message one day.
It was just like, look, man.
He did his voice messages a lot.
And he was just like, look, man, I understand.
Like, a lot of people, this was like real early, like 16, like 2016.
I hadn't done nothing substantial.
Right.
But he was just like, look, man, I understand your breed of guy from Nashville because I live there.
He was like, just keep picking at it.
People won't get it at first.
But when it translates, it's going to go.
Really?
And, dude, like, rocked with me ever since, man.
That's very cool.
Dude, he's probably the coolest relationship I've ever had with like a celebrity.
Yeah.
I mean, he's like the celebrity.
not like be cool of celebrity.
He has no reason to fuck with me, though.
Right.
Like, he gains fucking nothing.
Yeah.
From taking the time to message me and send me bottles of fucking.
He,
he didn't really have to fuck with anybody.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, he kind of just, he's unfuckable with.
Right?
If a poll comes out, he's unfuck withable.
Yeah.
If 46% of polls come out and they say, yeah, we'll embrace him as our next president,
we had two issues.
We had one not issue.
The Rock's that popular.
And this dude doesn't have a platform.
He didn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
about you might he might say no one can have babies anymore and everyone's like all right 46% has
already said yes so that's really let's get four more isn't that crazy yeah like he's 46% and we
just got a new president right mean it wasn't like close to election time they started campaign
people always like already three months and they're like yeah but what about the next guy yeah
we get duway johnson ready dude that shit is i mean this the whole political thing has gotten a little
it's gotten fucking wild but even when trump was in office shrek dick yeah it does it was the worst
I can't imagine the smell of that dick.
Yeah, swamp nuts, right?
Yeah.
That's what I tell people.
That's a swampy fucking dick, man.
It's got to be.
Ain't no manscape fits in that.
No man's getting a nice plug.
You like that?
I like the plug.
Also, I see that the time's rolling,
so I'm assuming that we're rolling.
And that means that you are now in Bustin with the boys.
We're a jelly roll,
and we are presented by Chevrolet.
Chevy.
Chevy.
I forgot to tell you they were trying to get away from the name Chevrolet.
Well, we'll just cut that then.
Just cut that one way, huh?
But we were on here briefly, I mean, I'm sure the first minute and 12 seconds caught it,
you talked about sucking Shrek Dick and then, um,
you said something else about sucking dick.
Yeah,
you've had two.
Within the last five minutes,
you brought up sucking dick twice.
I called somebody a cock sucker and you've been stuck on it every street.
Well, you thought yourself a cock,
and then you referred to you said, do you suck cock?
Either way, because you were like, who's the cock sucker?
Yeah.
It was almost as if like, guilty.
Yeah.
I was like, well, fuck.
I'm not.
Like, you caught me in and I transitioned.
The dick was in my mouth at the time.
Are you, so what's with the oral fixation?
Is that like a thing you've always been into?
Is dick sucking or?
No, no.
I mean, I love having my dick sucks.
Okay.
Right?
It's way less, way less exerting for a big fellow than actually fucking a girl.
Yeah.
Right.
You can hit the starfish, but yeah.
Being a big dude, you know, if I had to pick between getting the head or fucking,
it just depends on whether or not I get to lay still either way, right?
Yeah, yeah.
But if I've got to, like, physically mount the horse, yeah, I'm going to get my dick sucks.
Exactly.
It's a lot of movement.
I mean, for me, even will.
Yeah, it calls me sometimes and I had sex
I was all how to go. He goes, I'm just exhausted, man.
She just, she never said stop.
It's just ridiculous.
It's close to being a chore.
It really is.
No, for sure.
I feel like when you're like 15, 16, whenever you start losing your virginity.
For me, I was at the lucky age of 14.
Had no idea what I was doing.
I'm sure it was awful for her.
Oh, I wish it was somebody's mom.
I had a friend with a really hot mom.
I'll dive into that later.
But you start getting to that.
It's like, how high can you get those numbers up, right?
If you're like the guy, like, you've had sex.
How can you get the numbers up?
You're trying positions.
you're reading books on commasutra you're trying to figure out life oh for sure you're on that dial up
internet yeah you're on the dial up internet looking up weird shit giving computer as aides back then that
that type of shit and then you fucking i mean then you get yourself a snorkel you yourself a turkey sandwich
you go down on somebody for 45 minutes like you start to figure out what it's like to be a lover yeah no
absolutely and meanwhile you have no idea what the hell you're doing now you fast forward i'm 29 turning 30 soon
will's in his 30s mid 30s i'm not sure how old you are i'm close to split the difference
split the difference depends on
And it kind of becomes like, you kind of look, you're doing this sway, this dance.
And it used to be the dance of love.
But now it's like, how are we going to get this done?
Yeah, for sure.
And how fast can we get this thing done?
How can we both be not hate each other about how this ends?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
But as efficient as possible.
Yes, absolutely.
And get to sleep.
Yeah, because you've got to get your eight hours.
As soon as you're done, that's what they said about, some guy had a bit on Lewis C.K.
When he did the jerk off thing in front of women.
And the comedian said, like, the least, like, violent seeming person as a person after
masturbated.
Like, after you're done, you're kind of
it's on you and you're just slumped
over, kind of sad.
You look like, just feeling disgusting.
Oh, that was, Chappelle?
That was the best kid ever.
He's like, I was hilarious.
He was like, I'm just saying, you'll come on my stomach.
Yeah.
Just fucking now you're just kind of, all right.
I've always wanted to be on this podcast and could have never
predicted the first five minutes would be so pornographic.
Oh, you couldn't have predicted that?
I mean, I knew.
I knew I was going to go deep, but Jesus Christ, I thought we'd wait to like the 40
minute marks.
Yeah.
Just completing that.
I thought we passed the Taramana around.
It looks like y'all got a Jack sponsor, too, because it's all you got.
Y'all got some real sponsors, dude.
Yeah.
Y'all didn't go for the little shit, did you?
Hey, he wasn't like such and such CBD.
You were like, we'll take Chevrolet and Jack Daniels.
Yeah.
You know what I wish.
I wish it was that easy.
People just don't want sponsors.
We're like, get out of here with the peasant bullshit.
We want the top dogs.
They play a little cat and mouse.
But we got their ass, dude.
The Chevy joined on.
This is the second podcast being presented by Chevy.
Dude, congratulations.
It's been a cool world.
I thought that was cool.
When I seen the Shepie
like the post, I was like, there's no way
that's real.
Yeah.
There's no way that's fucking.
I thought the same thing.
Yeah, I was, yeah, it's got to be,
you got the pillar.
I like the pillar.
Yeah, that's not how you say it,
but that's exactly what it is.
The pillar.
And you call it.
Pillarlet and you get on me on.
I say this mother's fucking.
This mother's fucking.
This is a middle motherfucker.
Listen, this guy's a lot of life.
You called your sponsor,
Chevrolet.
Yeah.
I get mad for saying pillar.
A pillar, I mean, yes, both are very fucked up.
But a pillar.
Where are you picking that up from?
That's not Nashville.
That's a roleism.
It's like Winder.
A WIT?
No.
We're not going to do this.
You're already jumping into shit that you're going to start to establish
Winder, Pillar, Knife.
What's next?
You know what I'm saying?
So it's pillow and that's a window.
And we have sponsors, but we can't afford AC.
What do you call?
How do you say, how do you say wash?
Washer.
Warsh.
Texas.
You say Worcher, huh?
I say Warshire.
Yeah.
It's kind of, some people in Missouri said that to Worsher.
I can get up.
We're not that far south.
Yeah, you start getting that Cajun stuff, but even Pillar's not Cajun.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I like the way you say it.
I don't too.
He's the first person that ever blatantly hated on me.
Yeah.
He doesn't hate it.
Right.
The fucking grammar.
That's good about being.
You know what I'm saying?
When you're a chain like this, I don't know if you've heard, but Derek ran for
2000.
Oh, sorry.
I did her for 2000, and I helped the minimum amount to get credit on the score.
So I can kind of do what the fuck I want.
Your post about it was funny, but the change is not what gives you the right to do whatever you want.
It's the outfit.
I appreciate that, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
Any man that showed up like that is confident as a mother-fiance.
Thank you.
I, um, yes.
It's weird, too, because my penis is so small, but like I am very confident.
Dick size doesn't determine confidence.
Thank you.
I would be here.
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
There's a small minds of turtle hair that hasn't posted.
It just looks like a button on a coat, doesn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure, it's bad.
If I squeezed too tight, it wouldn't even look like a button.
That's tough.
It just completely goes.
Yeah, we can go on all day about how small our penises is, but I feel like...
We're still circled back to this, dude.
I've already come in the room and said, what are you listening to?
And the 13-year-olds are now getting in trouble?
Chevroletes listening.
Oh, go.
Hey, present him by, not for long, Chevolette.
Yeah, Chubbies, dude, we're not sponsored by Chubbies, so no free shout-outs,
but they sent this, and it was kind of fire.
She kind of had to wear.
right it's fucking bro when you put it on you're you're into it the minute i put it like this is the look
oh this is a vibe and then i shaved my entire face i had the worst jaw line this side of the
mississippi but i thought with a mustache i'll just look this five rock for a little bit dude i think
it's working for you i appreciate that for what my opinion matters i think i think it's rock
well right now it's the it's important i mean there's what seven people in here it's top seven
most important opinions right now i agree yeah for sure i think they'll comment if you really
fuck with the outfit, leave a comment,
let us know what you think about chubbies.
I appreciate that.
Let us know what you think about chubbies.
How big does chubbies get to?
I think they do it with 3x.
I think it's just chubby.
I think it's just chubby.
Okay.
There's a difference between chubbies and fatties
and I get left out right between that mark.
You should make fatties.
Yeah, that's it.
Fat.
Come out of the line.
Yeah, absolutely.
You're small as a double X.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah, baby.
You're welcome.
We'll take 10%.
We'll try it.
We've got a good idea.
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Now, can we get back to this fire episode with us?
Absolutely.
Let's do it, baby.
The, well, speaking of chubbies and fatties I've seen recently, obviously I'm a follower on the Instagram.
You have been working out, dieting, and doing all that.
What brought that on?
I lost quite a few pounds.
You wouldn't believe it, but I've lost a little weight.
You look good.
So I don't want to get deep because I like to joke like we've been joking.
We can go back and forth.
Yeah, it was like, you know, I was like, you know,
I battle with depression naturally, right?
Like it's something I've dealt with my whole life.
And not touring for a year really fucked with me.
It was like more than I thought it would.
Like when they took touring away because of COVID, I was like, dude, I was already fat.
But I mean, I just blimped up, dude.
I just, I mean, I just, I didn't like, I didn't realize how much a part of my
genetic code it was.
I gained like a hundred something pound.
Wow.
Really?
You know how hard you got to work to gain that much weight in a fucking year?
That's tough.
I mean, like, I had to.
like vigorously.
Like, I mean, I almost had like set a goal of 7,000 calories
a fucking day to do it.
It was rough, right?
I don't know how it happened.
I was just,
I kind of lived in denial the first four or five months.
I was like, oh, we'll be on tour in October, whatever.
Yeah.
And it just never came back around.
So the beginning of this year, I was like, man, I just fucking, you know, I don't want, like,
I tell people all the time, like, I pick on myself.
I pick on other fat people because, like, fucking whatever, right?
But it's low hanging fruit, right?
If you ever see a dude that's like dealing with.
with real obesity, that's like somebody dealing with a real addiction.
That's like somebody dealing with like a real like they're dealing with something.
Like this is not like, just quit eating fatty.
It's like, yeah, well, tell your mama quit fucking sucking dick or tell your cousin
quit shooting heroin.
Like it's not that fucking easy.
Tell your alcoholic dad just stop today.
You know what I mean?
Like just tell them just put the bottle down.
He's been drinking 30 something years.
I'll just drop it today, won't he?
So it's like when you see that there's something deeper rooted there.
And I was like, man, I need to.
I call it my last mountain.
I overcame poverty.
I came out of a sit.
When I started making music, Taylor and Wheel, let me tell you all something, boss.
Nobody said I had a chance.
I mean, they bet the farm against me.
I was too big.
Now, hold on real quick.
Why did they say that you had no chance?
Because there's lots of people that look all different ways.
Now.
That have been.
Now, I want you to think about, do you remember there was a time in professional wrestling
where everybody was yoked and had a six-pack?
I don't know if you remember this era.
I don't know if you remember this era.
or like you had to look like, you know,
it was before like the Stone Colds was yoked.
But I mean, there was a moment where you had to be a Hulk Hogan looking guy.
Yeah.
Or some sort of a gargantuan of a man.
You know what I mean?
Like there was a moment there like there was a moment in music before the internet
where before all the littles and weird rappers with face tattoos and all that shit.
Yeah.
Was before all that still.
That, you know, there was like, well, we can't sell it to women.
Back then it was late night TV.
We can't put you on TV.
You're too big.
Your voice isn't.
cool enough. You need a signature tone
to your voice. Your voice isn't, it just
won't work. The voice doesn't match the look.
The look doesn't, you don't dress
rock and roll enough or you don't dress rap enough. I was too
rock and roll for rap. I was too rap for rock and roll.
There was just so many things that they were like, it's just not, you just
don't have a chance. It's just, you're just wasting your time.
Now, is there a specific they that you're thinking of
what you're telling us right now? Every label. Well, I never
signed a one. I got turned down by every label
from here to California and back.
Yeah. I mean, every label in the United States.
has told me no at one point in time.
And round of applause, I got every label
sitting on the desk right now.
Let's fucking go, boys.
Round of applause.
Every one of those labels,
my lawyers got like eight offers
right now sitting on the desk.
I'm like, fuck all of you.
Yeah.
But it's like I was in a place where I overcame,
but I overcame that mountain.
Like I figured that out.
I knew I had a cool voice.
I just knew the right people I had to hear it.
The song content,
dude, I make music for like,
like, y'all are like the working NFL guys.
I make music for those people.
don't make music for it.
Motherfuckers aren't singing about what I sing about.
You know what I'm saying?
This is a totally absurd thing to be singing about.
Now, give me an example of things like that.
You came in, Lyle's call.
Yeah.
Like, think about, like, besides this really somber, sad songs like Adele, hello, which
was still about a lost partner.
Yes.
Right.
Most of those songs involve heartbreak or country of the dog dies or something like that.
But it's never like, yo, I'm battling my demons.
Yeah.
Like, that's the shit I'm talking about.
I'm making music for, I joked.
with the label dude, he took me out to eat at Kane Prime.
And he was like, I can't believe the people in this restaurant don't know who you are.
I was like, I promise you every cook does.
Before we left, every fucking dude in that bad kitchen came out and took a picture.
Really?
Yes.
Ballet dude.
Jelly Roll, we parked your truck up front.
You know what I'm saying?
I was like, I didn't expect the motherfucker buying the steak at Kane Prime to know me.
But I expected the motherfucker working at Kane Prime to know me for me for sure because that's who I'm fucking with.
That's my guy.
You know what I'm saying?
But back then, people wasn't making music for these dudes.
You know what I'm saying?
There wasn't nobody writing music for a group of people that don't have people writing music for them.
It was like a rare thing back then.
And it's, I mean, it became more acceptable because of the Internet because now you just fucking run into everybody, right?
Yeah, TikTok and all this things.
You have millions of view is no problem.
Yeah, it's a subway in fucking New York is what the Internet is.
You're running everybody now.
But back then, that wasn't the case.
I overcame that.
I overcame coming out of the situation I was in.
I overcame real drug addiction.
We all are dealing with a dude that'll have a shot of tequila with you at noon now.
There was a dude that would have showed up here on a four-day bender sipping codeine and snorting cocaine right off your table.
Like, yeah, let's talk about this on the podcast.
Yeah.
I came over and came all that.
Now, I just got to get this fat up off of me.
That's my last mountain, baby.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to get it off.
I lost it before and gained it back.
And then, you know, I played yo-yo with the diet shit.
The Jonah Hill?
The Jonah Hill diet.
Jonah, where you're changing sizes every 15 minutes.
Yeah.
I dealt with that.
Oprah Winfrey to go back to the 90s for you.
Yeah, that's it.
Yep.
Oprah did it first.
She made a popular.
90s.
Yeah, back to the 90s.
So these other rappers that are kind of talking about all, now I'm, let's just put a line
in the stand right now.
I don't know much about rapist or what rappers do, right?
Like I listen to music.
I've obviously heard the baby masterpiece and all those things.
But if you're talking about these other rappers, I'm seeing like thousands of these, I don't
say little guys, like these little, I don't want to say kids, but these little guys who are
tiny dudes, face tattoos.
you got the Takashi 6-9 guy like they're all rapping about the same thing and I feel like the the code for
rapping is hose money sell drugs murder people yeah for sure and then that's kind of like the
the melting pot of yeah the big main things right obviously they go in different areas and so
what changed between then and now were these other people that had face tattoos also that
were allowed you to kind of be opened up by labels or was it you persevering through the walls
It was persevering.
It was just putting out content.
Yeah, it was like just like constant content.
That's why I'm a fan of y'all's show, right?
Like I watched y'all build this thing from something small and can't like, dude, we joke about it.
But fucking you got a Chevrolet sponsorship.
Yeah.
This is fucking huge.
Right?
It's like when you started this or when y'all started this, there's a lot of people right now rooting for y'all on the internet who feel like y'all's sponsorship is their sponsorship.
They're that invested in there.
So like our dude did it.
Our fucking guy did it.
Me and Will was having to talk about how the NFL and the podcast balance each other
and how, you know, what's important to him and I don't want to get deep into that unless he does.
But we talked about this before you came on the bus.
And it was like there's a moment where people are following what's going to happen with Will.
Right.
Right.
They want to know.
Like, who you playing for?
He has his own free agent watch.
But it just gets bigger, right?
Because people become invested in that.
You know what I'm saying?
And I just did it the same way.
I just put out a lot of music, Taylor, and just continued to build.
I didn't mind
one thing I didn't care about
most people do is I didn't care to brick
No what does that mean
Yeah what does that mean
Yeah I didn't care to flop
I didn't care if I put something out to shit the bag
Right so you're saying if you put something out there
And people are just shitting on it
It's just how many you know what that fucking sucks
But down to the next one
How many episodes it is that you'll put out
That you feel like nobody gave a fuck you were doing it
I'd say we're still waking
To figure out if somebody actually cares truly
Right
I just think that's not it out
I mean there were a few in the in like the first season
and where you're like, you know, you don't know if anybody cares.
And then after you get past the surge of like, all right, a couple football guys are doing a podcast.
That's awesome.
It's like you knew you're going to have some initial viewership, but how could you retain them?
Or it was probably going to drop off like a lot of stuff that's like, oh, let's see what these guys are about up?
Just regular old jobs.
Yeah, because like I said, the subway in New York, the internet, what's new all the time?
There's things are, it's a revolving door of fame in the 15 minutes you get.
Yeah.
And so it was going to be, oh, a football player started a podcast.
That's cool.
now it's over,
or is it going to be able to become a little more longevity,
which we found out that we do have a great base of fans.
Nashville is a place that you never know.
I mean,
I would never think in my head living in Ohio or living somewhere
that like Nashville is a great place to start something
and have amazing support,
but it really is.
Oh, yeah.
People here really care about the things that people invest time into.
Will and I invest in time into this,
the franchise and the fan base here,
and it's paid off with this and it's slowly growing.
Right, and it continues to grow.
continues to grow.
And there's a mother way you do it and feel like it's deaf ears, but you just keep pushing
because you know what to grow, or you latch on to the few people to fuck with it.
And that's what I did.
I could not care that it was flopping.
Now, is that something you were born with, or is that something you had to obtain?
Because a lot of people, when they see things on the Internet, it's tough.
You can see 10 nice things about you, but then you see one that's negative.
And a lot of times that I'll put somebody in the tank.
For someone listening to you right now, how do you compartmentalize those things and figure out,
okay, I must stay on my path that I'm on.
because I think a lot of times with the younger people,
younger adults, us,
we look at,
we want to be successful, right?
Everyone gets to see Instagram.
You get to see,
you get to go on an export page
and see what Sylvester Stallone's $110 million house
and this guy's jet in that.
And everyone sees the success,
but no one sees the trials and tribulations.
And it's almost comical to people
when you start something new,
how bad you are at first.
It's like acting or doing stand-up comedy or anything.
When you start to do those things,
you're probably shitty at first.
Right.
And it's like, oh, this fucking guy is trash.
Oh, yeah.
And then eventually you get a Dane Cook.
You get a Joe Rogan, a Chris DeLea, those types of guys that can get on stage and make people laugh.
But it's fighting through that.
How did you, how were you able to do that while you're battling addiction while you're battling weight loss, weight gain, all that stuff?
You know, having a kid at a young girl, how old's your kid?
My daughter's almost 13.
You're always 13 years old.
Having a kid.
Yeah, I was young.
Yeah, at a young age.
She was born when I was incarcerated.
So it was even more like harder on me.
And I want to make sure and bookmark that because I definitely want to.
hit that as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But for me, man, it was just like, I didn't, I joke about it because it's real.
I just had like blind faith.
Like you ever just felt like you were supposed to do something?
Yeah.
No matter what was like, I just felt like I was supposed to be a voice for the voiceless.
I believe that.
I didn't care how much it flopped.
I didn't care what people told me.
The in and out, like I just always, for you was probably football.
All roads came back to football, right?
Like, no matter what was happening.
life you had this thing that was your fucking thing.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Music was my thing.
I just couldn't accept no for an answer.
I was just like as long as I can keep putting out music, it's got to connect.
I just really believed it.
I never had a lot of moments I wanted to quit just out of sheer depression.
Or just like, fuck, it just maybe it's not.
But I just, dude, I just, I couldn't imagine not having this thing in my life.
And when you see people shitting on that thing that you have, because for me, it's, it's,
when I see things on Twitter, let's say.
And I've grown out of this quite a bit.
But if I see someone say, hey, Taylor, you're a piece of shit person.
You're a bad father and you're a bad husband.
To me, rolls off the back.
No, I'm not.
And you don't know me well enough to know whether that's true or not.
But you see me every Sunday playing football.
So you can say I'm a dog shit football player.
Like, oh, is that grounds a stand on?
These people hear your music.
And so they say your music's dog shit.
How do you get past that?
Confidence.
So here's my thought, right?
If you don't like my music, you are either just a fucking, that's just hating is in your genetics, right?
Two, it's maybe not your cup of tea, but you got to acknowledge the talent.
Like, I'm cool what you're saying, hey, man, I get it, but I don't get it.
It's not my thing.
Sure.
You know, like, you know, I don't expect a fucking Kenny G fan to just be like, you're
fucking great.
Yeah.
I expect them to be like, I don't get it.
You know, but it's like you acknowledge the talents there.
Three, if you don't like my music, some fat dude fucked your wife, period.
Somewhere down the line, some fat chubby motherfucker came in and swoop your bitch up
and you were just a hating motherfucker.
Yeah.
Because of that you just grudge every dude that's,
just by that,
you know,
it's like,
I just know that about,
because like,
I know now,
there was a stage where the shit was horrible.
Like,
man,
I'm really,
I believe what I do is good music.
I believe it's not for everybody.
I tell people,
I might not be your cup of tea.
I'm a strong shot of tequila.
That's okay.
Maybe you're not a shot of tequila guy.
You should go get you a macchiata.
I get that.
But don't hate on me because I'm not a
Macchiato, motherfucker.
You know what you're getting.
Two, I've been a piece of shit my whole life.
I don't care.
I grew up.
You know what my nickname is Jelly Roll?
I was fat as a kid.
My mama called me Jelly Row.
She calls me Jelly to this day.
I walk into my mama's trailer.
Hey, Jelly.
You feel me?
And I say trailer because I bought her a house and she moved out of it because she
wanted it.
I got her what she wanted.
That you can take the pig out the mud, but not the mud out of the pig.
Sure.
You feel me?
Absolutely.
I walk in my mama's trailer.
Is that my jelly?
She's just excited.
I've always been a fucking fat kid.
Yeah.
So it's like, I don't, that shit don't bother me.
You know, it's like I dealt with all that before.
It's like everything that was going to hurt me in life has already happened.
You can't hurt me.
It's already happened.
I went through it all.
I've been to prison.
I've had an overdose.
I almost died.
I've been shot.
I've been stabbed.
You think you calling me a name on the internet hurts me.
Man, fuck you and your mama.
Yeah.
How about that?
How about if you see me at a gas station to say that to me, I slap the shit out of you.
You know what I'm saying?
As certain as I stand here, dog.
I will slap the
motherfucker out of one of them guys
and I know that in my
I know who I am
they don't know who they are
yeah that's why his picture
is like a fucking Pokemon
on fucking it
on fucking TikTok
and he's talking shit about me
you know what I'm saying
like I will slap the fuck
out of you dog
in front of your mama
and then kiss her in the mouth
that's what I'll do
you're big like mama joke
assault and sexual assault
all in one
you're big of going after the mama
yeah
that's an old jail trick
don't act like you want to fight
how about fuck your mom
you really want to fight
if that don't make you
want to fight, you don't want to fight.
Yeah.
That was always my joke.
It's like, oh, you know what?
How about your mama sucks dick?
Yeah.
And it's mine.
And it's nasty dick.
And I've got herpes.
Oh.
You want to fight now?
Okay.
You don't want to fight.
You don't want to fight.
You were just talking.
You know what I'm saying?
Because if I say something about your mom and you don't hit me in the mouth, you
didn't want to fight.
First, for sure.
Okay.
That's real.
Somebody says something about your mom.
You're going to find.
No.
See, that's what I was.
I wasn't going to disagree with here.
I was going to let that one ride and let it flow.
No, no, I don't lie out of me.
You let's a very disrespect your mom.
I haven't really talked.
I like, I haven't really talked to my mom like that.
You know what I'm saying?
No, it doesn't have to be deeper now.
We don't have the relationship that you wish you had, but no, someone says your mom sucks.
I'm like, well, you probably don't know her.
She sucks dick.
Yeah, she has.
Yeah.
You know, I know for a fact she has.
Now, do you think.
I found a picture one time when I was in her, uh, yeah, it was tough.
That's a tough.
Do you want to hear that story?
Yes.
You can't start that story.
I know, I know, but I do, I want to hear more about you and I know there's only a finite amount of time.
Let's talk about your mom.
So when I was 13 years old, my grandmother gave me a gun.
It was a 38 special, black with a brown handle.
My mom goes, well, you're 13.
You can't have a gun like this.
I relate to that kind of white trashery.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We'll get along real well, though.
We came up quite a bit, both of us.
So I go back, go back to my mom's house and I check this out.
She's like, give me that.
You can't have that.
What are you fucking doing?
So she puts it up.
and god damn i can see the dick now
so
one day she goes out
it
it's
that
that was a brother
moment if I didn't
I can see the thing now
he did it
he did it real slow
he went
I know
it shocked me
I felt I felt the universe
fucking ground me back
so my
uh
My mom, we grew up, I grew up in a ranch and my mom's working the ranch or whatever.
It's like a place for horses.
It's not really a ranch.
And I'm like, fuck, I'm going to go find that gun.
It's my gun.
It was a gift.
It was a gift.
I'm going to be taking it with me.
So I go, I'm going through everything, right?
I'm going through drawers looking, feeling everything.
I get to her nightstand.
I open that up.
I grab it.
It's like glass with a bunch of things on.
It's like shape like this.
I'm like a dildo, but I was 13.
I didn't know that it was a dildo.
Right.
Put the thing in my hand.
put it back in the bag
put it back
didn't even clean it
to feel terrible
to this day actually
and then I go through these drawers
and you kind of start
feeling around
you can even feel
like a playing card
or whatever
kind of brushing up
against the dresser
yeah
and you can't
what is that
and you kind of grab it
and it's
it was a Polaroid
and I trip up
my wood is
and it just
immediately infused into my brain
it was
it was outside
okay
it was a
my mom was wearing a
a floral
type of top
like this
this cemented in your mind
this penis it went up
and a little bit to the right
oh he had a curve
it was big and it was handsome
you know what I'm saying it wasn't like a grimy one where you go
well come on it's kind of gross it was like that's a good looking dick
you know and she this is this
this is the penis this was her
this is her
like that
The tongue was touching the tip of the penis, dude.
It fucking, it was, I went quiet.
I went mute for the first time in my life.
A week goes by.
My mom's like, hey, why aren't you talking very much?
I'm fine.
Walking to the other room.
And then one day, she's like, too, that's enough.
Like, what's going on?
And I'm like, I don't want to talk about it seriously.
Just leave me alone.
And she's like, quarrying me.
Like, now we're doing the drug.
I'm trying to get around her.
And she won't let me get around her.
And she's like, tell me what the problem is.
And I said, do you want to know what the problem is?
And we power walk to her room.
I take out the picture
when I showed you, I said, this is the problem.
And she fucking lost it.
And the worst part about the whole story was,
she was wearing the same fucking shirt then
because she wasn't the goddamn picture.
And that is the problem.
And that's a...
And literally, I was telling...
I told this story to some of my teammates
a few years ago.
And then my mom came to a charity event.
It was when Houston had the floods.
And so my wife put a charity event on.
And my mom came to the charity event.
And I go, Mom, you're not going to believe the story
I'm telling the boys right now.
And she goes, not the dick.
story again, Taylor.
But she knows.
She knows the fucking thing that I talk about.
And so I'm sweating.
Is this your first time saying it on the podcast?
It was the first time I've ever heard that story.
No, it was tough.
I'm sweating profusely.
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So that was that.
But let's get back to what we were talking about with you.
Oh, the fight your mom thing.
Yeah.
In jail.
Well, those more, I'm all right.
I'm good, thank you.
It was, we were talking about the whole fear or thinking about having confidence about everybody kind of shitting on your stuff.
Yeah.
And learning how to do that and coming out.
Yeah, and it sounds like you don't, it doesn't matter anymore.
And it's a huge win because every label that told you to go fuck yourself is now sitting on your desk.
Listen, man, it's all.
It worked out.
Now, how does that process work?
Talk to me like I'm five and tell me how, how did you get a label, you cut a record.
Yeah, why would it be fuck all of you when you have every label now?
Now you get the kind of pick.
So here's how this works, right?
Labels come in and finance the records.
And have y'all ever talked about this with a musician?
I mean, Ernest's closure.
I don't watch the music.
I watched Ernest.
Ernest has dabbled with it a little bit, but I mean.
This is the most organized we've been.
Yeah, the way the way you said finance.
We're, dabble in and out and get out.
We're keeping this thing besides my mom's dick picture.
Yeah.
This is a straight line.
The word finance hit me.
Yeah.
So continue.
Right.
So it's like, the label finances the record.
Yeah, the label finances the record, right?
And because of that, they own the record.
Mm-hmm.
And 100%.
Well, not 100%.
There's a deal involved with it.
So, like, let's say that it'd be like you say, let's say we're going to do a busing with
the boys out.
I'm like, oh, let me sign y'all.
We'll do it under my shit, right?
And I'm like, okay, check this out.
Here's a deal, y'all.
I'll finance the record.
And I'll give you an advance if you need it.
Like, if you need a draw or I'll give you an advanced go, advanced go cut your own record.
Right?
So I'll be like, yo, here's a half.
a million dollars, go cut your record.
But we're going to do a, and we'll promote it, market it on the label side.
We'll do everything for you.
All you got to do is turning the record.
We'll pay for the videos.
We'll pay for everything.
But on the side of it, we're going to do a, and this is a generous deal now, we're going to do an 80, 20, 70, 30.
Me gets 70, y'all get 30, okay, for me financing the record.
And we're going to do, but we're going to recoup the million dollars or half a million dollars at the rate of the deal.
let's say a million because it's easy man and at the rate of the deal this is where they
fuck you young artists please listen i am giving away game i could charge for this this is where
they fuck you they charge at the rate of the deal so that means that every dollar that's made
i'm going to take my 70 cents out of it and then i'm going to apply your 30 cents towards the
million dollars you owe me right and see what i'm saying once that's paid off you start getting
then once that's paid off you start getting your 30 cents now think about that for a second as far as
just us as grown men, like a bank loan or like a homie loan, right?
Like just your homie gives you $100,000 and go, man, I don't know.
Fuck, give me a 120 back if you can do it in three months.
Yeah.
We're talking about somebody making $700,000 and their million dollars before you participate
in any of the money.
So if the whole project costs it a million, like you, they take out their $700,000,
then your $300,000 starts to pay.
for the rest of the expenses.
And then whenever it gets you get,
basically whenever you get the $0 million.
Yeah, right.
Whenever your 30% pays the million off,
then we go into a $70.30.
But where the labels fuck you is,
it's an unlimited line of credit when you're doing well.
So young artists don't realize what's happening, right?
So they're just like, hey, man, I want to shoot a video
and have a helicopter and jump out of it like James Bond
and blow a car up the label.
It's like, no problem.
It only costs a quarter million dollars.
Here's $250,000 more.
Then these art.
Artists started getting a situation where they're never getting royalties on their records.
Now, the label owns the masters of the record.
Now, the Masters is the right to sink something, to put it on a TV show.
The Masters is the right to where it lives and doesn't live, to break it down in a beat format,
to whatever they want to do with the master recording, right?
Artist doesn't own the master.
He's only participating in the royalties of the album.
When I say 7030, that's a strong deal.
It's a lot of artists on Music Row right now with 95-5s.
95,
so you don't make nothing.
So how do you make money then?
And then,
um, touring and merch.
So how does touring work?
So how does touring work?
And then they got this new thing called a 360 deal, which is called ancillary participation.
Which means now, not only do I want 95% of what your streaming does.
I want 15% of what your touring does.
Gross.
I want 15% of what your merch does.
Gross.
I want 15% of your appearance fee.
Gross.
I want 15% of.
of everything you do gross.
So, okay.
And the name, they'll on your name, Taylor.
That's deeper.
Imagine now, not only do I own this.
So you don't own jelly roll.
I own, oh, I own jelly roll.
No.
If you were to sound, I went on jelly roll.
Yeah.
So if I wanted to go open a jelly roll bar,
I would have to ask their permission to put my name on the bar.
And pay them their role.
And pay them 50% gross.
Or more.
Yeah.
Depending on what the deal was with the name,
because the name could be a different thing.
So not, like, the Jason Aldeen bar down there,
the Florida Georgian line bar down there.
I don't know there.
I don't know.
deals, but based on one of the things you might be saying is that could be owned by the record
label, actually.
What's really happening is they took a licensing deal, so they have nothing to do with these bars.
Dirks is the only one I know who's pretty hands-on.
And the licensing deal could be 15% of the world, the net, the net world, the net of the year.
Now, when you say Dirks is pretty hands-on, he's the only one that you know that's hands-on, what
does that mean that he's more hands-on?
He's in his bar.
He actually has equity stock.
Okay, got you.
where the other guys like Jason Al Dean's bar could be
Ernest Bar in five years.
When his licensing fees up,
Ernest will probably be the biggest artist in Nashville.
I hope.
That's our boy.
Let's hope.
Let's hope.
So let's say Ernest.
He's one of the boys.
So let's say Ernest is the biggest artist in town.
And they go,
okay, it's no longer Jason Al Dean Bar.
It's Ernest Bar.
You know,
I'd love to see a day where music grows is Ernest and Hardys.
You know what I'm saying?
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Where the Broadway is the new guys, right?
You know,
so it's like, and then they come to them and say, hey, man, we'll give you, you know, for your name's sake, we'll give 15% of the net of what this thing does.
Depending on the label deal, the jelly roll bar now at 15% of the net of that, let's say that bar makes my net is $3 million, 4 million a year.
The label comes in and if they own my name, like I know one artist in town, I cannot say his name.
We'll talk about it when the camera's off.
Sure.
That literally gave up his whole name.
That label could just come right in and take them $3 million.
just like that.
Like that.
That's tough for that.
Holy shit.
He doesn't own his own name.
That's hard to hear.
And it's his government name.
It's not like jelly rolls of moniker, right?
Yeah.
You know, like, I mean, imagine like Taylor LeWan, Will Compton.
Like, I own the name Will and William Copton.
Yeah.
That's the name I own.
Anytime you put Will Compton on something and try to sell it, I'm allowed to step in and flex and go,
hold on now.
You know, I own the name Will Compton.
We should put something out about it.
I need 30 cents down a dollar.
My mama calls me Will.
This is the name my mother gave me.
My father, I was named Will like,
fuck back. And he gave that individual,
he or she gave away that
opportunity now.
Do you feel like, how are these things not
Sorry, I want to get this off because I want to make sure
I ask it? How are
how are artists not getting together and saying, well, this
is obviously unfair? And how
is there an artist union? Is there a way
that you guys can start unionizing
and negotiating not just one genre
like rap, but all genres to
say this is how we're going to work labels from now on it's a 50-50 or a 51-49 label and it's
going to be x-y-and-z and kind of put more in a fine print kind of like our cb a is right so what
they're going to end up doing is labels will turn into distributors in the future it's already happening
right like labels certain distributors like Spotify like Apple music yeah what they do is they
like big loud yeah exactly exactly and they're service turns into what well they're
doing more distribution than they used to so like where universally used to be record
deal or no deal.
The deals I have on my table from these labels are distribution deals.
And this is probably my manager comes like, I fucking hate you.
You got to work on this podcast and just start telling all the business.
But it's like, he's a fan of the body, by the way.
Yeah, yeah, he's a huge fan.
Shout to the boy.
Yeah, yeah.
What's up, Caleb?
But they'll be like, yo, check this out.
They'll be like, hey man, we'll distribute your record to all the DSPs, digital service
providers, Spotify, album music, etc.
We'll work the record.
Yeah.
We'll use our relationship and our in-house offices stuff for,
I can't legally say the percentage, but let's pretend it's like 90, 10.
Yeah.
We're pretending, though, right?
Right.
You see what I'm saying?
So let's just say, like, it's just something that cool, that unheard of, 90, my way, 10, their way.
Yeah.
That's what the deals I'm getting now.
Hypothetically, if a percentage like that were to exist,
per the non-disclosure, I'm not allowed to say.
But it's something of that nature, you know what I mean?
Where I was willing to take an 85, 15, them getting 85, 6 years ago.
ago when I was dead broken just needed help.
Right.
And that's where they catch these artists and fuck them.
Yeah.
On there on there.
They see the towel and go, this kid's going to work.
Let's invest in them now.
Let's sign the deal now.
Let's put them in the huckle buck.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's tie them up for four or five, six, seven albums, something crazy and I'm fucking
70-30.
So the distribution, if it's changing to distribution, how are the labels going to go now
monetize that and make sure that they get their same things?
Well, they'll obviously have to start making less money.
money, right?
And the artist will be in charge.
It's going to happen.
We're the beginning of it.
I'm not saying this in an arrogant way.
I say this in like in the bottom of my heart way.
I think the deal that I'm going to end up signing that we'll talk about as soon as
y'all, as soon as I see that not running.
Yeah.
Will be something that I believe will go down in history of Nashville.
Like it'll be a turning point for artists where artists will start going into labels and saying,
And hey, man, I want the jelly roll deal.
Right.
If you can do it for the jelly roll, you can do it for me.
I really believe that.
It's the same thing they do in the NFL.
Right.
Now, for a player is to start getting more and more money,
they need the next guy up to have the biggest contract in NFL history.
Right.
You get those guys doing it.
And then that's how money gets bigger and bigger.
Yeah, there's always a bigger contract.
Yeah, there's always a bigger contract.
When I signed my deal four years ago, I was number one.
Now I'm not even close to top five.
I might not even top 10 anymore.
I have no idea.
But that's how you keep the money rolling
That's how you as a group collectively
Keep ball rolling in your direction that you want
For people to walk in and say I want the jelly roll deal
Yeah
Comparatively it seems like
There was a moment where people came in and said
And every short lived like yours
But there was a moment where people came in and say
Hey man especially lineman
They were like yo man we want that fucking Taylor Luan deal
Right
Like y'all see what tape you like motherfuckers gossip
Like yo you see what just happened with Taylor
And the issue like yo that shit's out there
You know what I'm saying?
The thing with NFL money is
when people say five year, blah, blah, blah, blah.
If someone signed a five year, $120 million deal,
everyone sees $120 million.
The most important thing is not your APY,
which is average per year.
Most important thing is guaranteed at signing,
and then your first three years money.
Right.
So that is the most important,
the most important thing.
Like, you don't have to be the highest paid dude,
but if your structure is good,
that's how you're bulletproof to make your money.
A lot of dudes just want to have the highest paid contract.
So they want that something 70.
So they say they have the highest deal,
get the cool poster,
you know,
maybe have a milk,
commercial or added a magazine and then two years from now you're getting cut but they're back
the years are the highest yeah and so those the years you're either renegotiating have a smaller
contract or you're cut right so it's a it's a it's a it's a finicky world the talent versus and even
in the even no it is yeah it's arts versus commerce man and i am dead set against uh
artists being exploited it's something that bothers me in my soul man like i hate to see an artist
when somebody like, you know, it's got to be like that with y'all, right?
Like when a motherfucker who's never thrown a football in his goddamn life tries to come in and tell you what you're worth.
And you're like, hold on, don't.
You've never fucking once in your life came out here on a Sunday.
Right.
You've never once had the fucking Alabama shakes I get out here.
You've never once dealt with the intensity I deal with out here.
And you're telling me what the fuck.
I'm working.
You want to put your value.
Because you went to motherfucking Harvard and know something about money.
You can suck my dick soft, dog.
This is fucking what I do.
Put a count on that.
it's like when people tell me like come in and you tell me hey man this is this is how this
should work man have you ever played a guitar yeah have you wrote a thousand songs and nine
hundred of them motherfuckers been horrible yeah don't talk to me i got a hard drive i got a graveyard
of songs i'd never play for y'all right now we're homies i feel like already fuck we've talked
about mother sucking dick and everything yeah we've got it we've got deep man i'm honest with you
when you're burning up right away though i feel like that's something you lead with so i don't
if it makes it super close or not.
I feel like it couldn't get no,
I wouldn't tell you a story of my mama sucking dick
or if I wouldn't go with you.
Yeah, I'm an open book.
But yeah, absolutely.
We're back.
We're back.
Full fucking circles.
40 minutes in this thing.
It's like, dude, I just, you know, it's like, I wouldn't,
I just, I just couldn't imagine a world where the artist don't have control.
It's time for the artists to take control in our business.
Yeah.
I don't want to see an artist get exploited.
You need some of those pioneers too that are like,
that kind of disclose some of the,
that as well because a lot of times guys just don't know what everybody else is doing like going
in the NFL you kind of know what structures you're going to get into there's minimums there's this
and that there's not that kid got slotted there's not that kid kind of playing in the field and scouts
just go by and see him be like oh let's take advantage of him and get 90% of it's pretty much like
IP intellectual property right similar with like podcasting there's like people brands who own an
IP and then also talent who owns their IP to where it seems like in the distribution world it's
more of like that split revenue deal like hey you still own
jelly roll and your intellectual property of it all,
but now you will work with a label that will kind of give you an audience
or give you more of an audience and throw money in the right buckets?
Right, exactly.
Is that kind of what it is?
Yeah, their thing is they are willing to offer what you can't get.
Because there are some things that are hidden behind relationships
that an artist can't have, right, that are just years of like,
like, like Spotify.
So go.
I don't normally watch what I say, but I got to, I'm walking like,
Use your example.
Spotify is close to being the new radio.
And there's going to come a moment where your relationship with the radio will determine where your artist gets placed on the radio.
Sure.
Right.
So I am fearful that the artists are going to struggle with that.
Like these big playlist, you know, because it starts to like, radio is becoming null and void.
Right.
Country radio exists because it's still a button pushing industry.
But it's becoming less and less, right?
Like we're finding artists on our phones now.
You're finding artists through friends, through Instagram.
TikTok, Instagram, all that stuff.
What do you mean by a button pushing industry?
What is that when you say country music is a button pushing industry?
I understand that.
This is crazy, Taylor.
They can go literally find a guy right now on Broadway.
Yeah.
Pick them up, bring him into office.
And say you're the dude now.
You're the dude, man.
Get this haircut.
We're going to put this on.
We're going to put you the best song writers.
We're going to get you the best song.
We're going to go to country radio and spend millions of dollars.
And you're going to have the number.
one song in the country on country radio
on the next 12 months.
So they get the picking shoes, but
couldn't any industry do that?
Well, it's turning less
into rap. See, rap was different.
Right? Because rap was found
in the streets initially.
You would find good rap songs
in the club, and then it would
translate to radio. So like
when a song got big on rap radio, we'd already
heard it in the club six months ago.
Radio was late. You see what I'm
saying? Yeah. Where country music is like,
a traditional country audience,
here's this new song for the first time on the radio,
not somewhere else.
Now, rap is now went to streaming and artist direct,
so you find the artist,
you find the song,
and then you grow with the song.
So now have the song like the baby's like the biggest rapper in the world,
but you remember when he dropped his first song
and you were riding with them through that,
where country music's not so much that way.
These guys come out of nowhere.
Come out of nowhere.
For lack of a better term,
it's more corporate in the country world.
Way more corporate.
Way more button done.
So it's like if I had a shitload of money and I was in the country world or a big label, whatever it is.
Excuse me.
And I wanted to be like, all right, this is the write-ups of songs.
Like you say you're a writer.
So if I want to, what do you call it?
Catalog.
You're right.
So if it's like, I'm going to go buy Jelly Rose catalog and then I'm going to find somebody that we can kind of control their intellectual property.
That would be the way to do it.
It's like, buy that.
Okay, had to spend X million dollars to buy that.
Yeah.
Costs a lot of money.
But let's go find this person that doesn't know who they are yet.
put it behind that song and then we kind of control that.
We're kind of betting on making money off buying your...
Absolutely.
Or a publisher.
So you'll have a publisher who will sound a writer.
Like, I love you, Ernest.
I'm sorry, I have to reference you because you're our boy,
and it's the easiest one to reference.
Because we all know Ernest.
Ernest is arguably, I would argue with somebody right now
that he's the best songwriter in Nashville.
He's on them lists that are like top three.
I'm just saying, right?
I would argue with anybody that Ernest is the best songwriter in Nashville right now.
and say Ernest writes a bunch of songs, right?
He turns him into his publisher because that's part of their deal
and Ernest gets a piece of whatever the publisher plugs, right?
Okay.
A pretty good piece from my understanding.
From what I hear, only I would assumptually know,
because I'm sure he's not allowed to say,
but I heard he got a good deal.
Yeah.
Speculation.
So it's like where y'all, that's where our business is different
than your business.
They hide us behind NDAs.
Mm-hmm.
Where you sign a big deal, man, that's just on ESPN.
That's everywhere.
You know what I said?
You can look up, you look up a little.
Oh, yeah, right away.
where we sign a deal and it comes with a sheet of paper that says you can never speak of this deal.
But let's say he got a good deal.
Okay, that makes a lot more sense because then people won't be able to go say,
I want the jelly roll deal.
You can't go look at the structure of contract.
Anytime we have an artist on too, we're always kind of curious of some of these deeds,
some of the getting in the weeds of it.
Yeah.
And it's just like you can never really get too far into it.
I say this with respect, man.
A lot of them couldn't get in the weeds, which bubble.
That's what I'm saying.
They don't know enough about their business.
They sign a deal.
They have behind the house.
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
They don't know what the fuck's going on.
Yeah. Sometimes it's not about being smarts, but having the right people around you that can teach you those things.
Yeah, for sure. You know, dude, it's a, did you ever watch this old trailer park show called Myrtle Manor?
No, I know. I know. How sure you've seen this? It was great. So I met with the dude who owned the IP for Myrtle Manor, right? Are you pulling this up?
I thought he was going to say Trailport. We had a whole time. Yeah, welcome to Myrtle Manor. So this old man owns this TV show. Oh, look, it's got all kind of gossip and shit. People went to jail since then. This is good. So this was the show, right? And I did their theme song for like, C.
season two.
Just like click on any of that shit.
So anyways,
they would have this moment
where I did the show
and I met with the owner of this show
and he went behind the television station.
I love the tell his story.
And I've never told it publicly though.
And he
like trademarked the IP for the show
behind the TV people's back
because he owned a trailer park
called Myrtle Manor.
You see what I'm saying?
And then when the TV show came to him about it,
he owned all the intellectual property
for the Myrtle Manor
shit. So I only even get in a few seasons because of that
because he like completely took over.
So did they put a spin show on there that wasn't the same
that wasn't called Myrtle Manor but was the same premise?
No, they did the show called Welcome to Myrtle Manor.
But what he did was he bought, he owned the trailer park.
The trailer park was called Myrtle Manor, right?
Yeah.
So when he knew the TV people was coming while they were still negotiating the deal,
he goes in trade parks, Mertle Manor.
Trademarks the logo because it's his trailer park.
He's like, I'm not going to let y'all do the artist thing, right?
And come in and fuck me.
So this guy who owns a trailer park is,
an absolute genius.
It's a fucking genius.
Did for him.
But I referenced him to tell you the story.
He changed my life one night.
We got drunk together.
And he said, I never made it out of high school.
And this dude owned half of fucking Murrow Beach.
I said, well, that's crazy.
He said, let me tell you a story, man.
I hired a young kid that came out of Yale to run my business for him.
He said, one day, some other guys were in the office talking about where they went to college.
The young kid looked at me and said, where'd you go to college?
He said, I told him, I didn't go to college.
the kid said, you didn't go to college?
He said, no, he said, at all.
He said, I didn't go to high school.
The guy said, how do you run this business?
He said, because I was smart enough to hire a motherfucker that went to Yale.
Yeah.
You know, and that stuck with me.
100%.
That day, I'll never forget that conversation with that dude.
This old man was sitting there shooting fucking pappy,
fucking getting wasted with me in the middle of this trailer park.
Fucking multi-millionaire just gaming me.
And I was soaking it up like a fat sponge.
I was like give it to me, Papa.
I want it all.
Because I was like super early in my career and trying to figure out what I was going to do.
Yeah.
And I just stood by everything he told me the importance of owning your IP,
the importance of owning your name, the importance of ownership.
Don't sell it out, because I was like,
I was thinking about taking a bad production deal back then.
You just trying to get your name out there.
I just, anything to get my name out there, dude.
I was willing to, you know, like, like I was just so desperate to not be,
I was so desperate not to sell drugs anymore.
Yeah.
I was like, whatever it takes not to risk.
Tax-free business, though.
I didn't want, I, dude, I wanted to be in my daughter's life.
Sure.
It was a super sure of tax.
Me and Don was talking about this on the way in my camera guy.
I said, so I got arrested.
I don't know if I could say this or not.
I couldn't if you can't.
But right down the street from here,
when that neighborhood used to be before they, you know, made it nice.
Gentrification.
Yes.
Yeah, that's the word.
Yeah.
Before they gentrified the neighborhood over here.
Yes.
Oh, I almost said it.
But yeah.
I fucking got caught with a half ounce of crack over here was the last time I went to prison.
and I sat in prison for almost two years.
That was the year my daughter was born.
The baby and mother was like seven, eight months pregnant then.
Really?
Yeah, so whenever I came home, I was like, man, I just want to do whatever it takes
not to go back to jail.
I had a reason not to go to jail for the first time of my life.
Yeah.
And that was a turning point.
How many times before then were you in prison?
I don't know.
I probably did seven out of a 10-year stretch.
That's tough.
Fuck, man.
That's fucking tough.
How, you hear, like, I went to a holding cell one time for breaking probation.
hardcore, I know.
But, and they were...
I think he was pretty gay, so you were on probation.
Yeah.
Can we hear that story?
Twice, actually.
Yeah, I slapped the kid and stole his iPad, iPod.
But he wasn't talking about your mama.
No, he did it.
Actually, the way I broke probation to some kids that said some of my mom, that's what I did.
But that was before the dick pick.
When those seven to ten years, when you're in prison, you hear all, like, obviously,
you watch documentaries and you see this guy goes to jail and he's just, you know,
unsuspecting.
white dude, whatever, and then he's like, you got to be with a crew.
You got to be with the white supremacist cats.
You can't be with the black guys.
Can't be like all this different stuff.
Is this shit really run like that in there?
In some prisons?
Yeah, for sure.
Tell us a good prison story.
Oh, no, dude.
Let me tell you a story.
Anybody who says they have a good prison story did not learn from prison.
Sure.
I used to tell people all the time.
This isn't like judging balls.
Oh, this one was way better than this one.
They all fucking sucked.
Never been the one I thought was cool.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, I could tell some funny stories, but I choose not to because in hindsight, none of that shit was funny.
But it was, it was, yeah, it diversifies sometimes.
I was in a state prison.
I didn't go federal.
So it's a little easier for me because I'm from Nashville.
I was born and raised here, hence why I'm a busing with the boys fan, a fucking tight advocate.
Let's go, boy.
That's fucking, baby.
Respect that.
Yeah, for sure.
Like, side note, thank you for what you've done for the city.
We've really appreciated having you, man.
It's awesome.
Well, that means a lot, man.
I appreciate that.
My prayer is a Titan fan, frankly, for both of you.
Not to put Will on the no comment spot again, but is that when y'all are both done,
y'all hang up the jersey here.
That'd mean a lot to the city.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's like-
Hang up the jersey wear.
In the bus?
Yeah, fuck, yeah.
Wherever you want to hang that something up at.
We finish our careers in Nashville.
I think, I don't know if I can do that, but I'll ask them.
The ring of honor?
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, George, Stephen Mayer.
I'm just here.
You know, somebody wants my name up there.
It's a Titan jersey.
Yeah, yeah, I feel you.
So I was a local kid, so it was like, I didn't deal with it as much.
You know, it was more like really culturally melted, you know, so I didn't have a problem in there.
It was pretty cool.
So I didn't have to deal with that shit.
But in federal prison, one of my best friends went to federal prison struggle.
And, you know, it was real bad there.
They played the race card and the state card tough there.
But in state prison, yeah, I mean, you definitely got some of that going.
But when you're, you know, dude, I could ride the fence, man.
I could sing rock and roll music, play a little guitar and I could rap like a motherfucker.
Yeah.
And I also had weed.
So everybody pretty much liked me in there.
Good deal.
Well, I'm glad it worked out for you in prison.
I'm glad you're out now.
Yeah, yeah.
It's way cooler working out out here.
No question.
But I came home and just wanted to figure it out for the kid, dude.
Yeah.
You know, I was just determined to figure it out for my daughter.
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What was that moment like with the first time you saw
your daughter? I mean, she was turning
to. Yeah, she's turning to her.
I met her. Uh-huh. It's when I really actually
met her. Yeah. Um,
you know, it was emotional, but
it was like a happy emotion, you know.
I was so glad to be in her life at that point.
And me and her mother had kind of fought through custody at that point,
or me even being able to see her because, you know, I mean, I didn't have the best, you know,
I'm a reform.
I wasn't a good human pre my daughter in general.
So I could understand her resentment towards me.
Yeah.
And, you know, it was funny.
I met her on her second birthday and somewhere around her seventh birthday.
I got full custody of her.
That's awesome.
So me and my wife have full custody over now.
She's at the house waiting for me to get home.
No doubt.
She'll be pissed off when I show up without the sign Luan jersey.
Well, we'll make sure that works out.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm a pressure about that.
Yeah.
She's literally was like, yo, don't forget that.
Yeah.
I was like, no, I got you.
We'll make it work for sure.
I'll come around.
Like, make sure you grab a bottle.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This might be long.
I want to make sure I'm tipsy.
When you were talking about how bad you were before your daughter,
was it pretty much just your daughter that changed your own mindset when you went into prison?
Yeah, man.
Or what, like, what kind of reflections were you like having with yourself?
I was obviously if you were a bad dude for a long time,
it's like, you know, what's that conversation?
like for you in prison?
It's just knowing that you have to do something different.
You know, even in prison, I wasn't sure I wanted to change in jail, at least, until they
knocked on the door the year she was born on her birthday, and the guard told me it was her
birthday that she was born, you know, your daughter was born.
He had no other information at all.
He didn't know her name.
When I think about it, I don't even know if he said it was a boy or girl.
I think he was just like, yo, your kids here.
You got a kid born this morning.
I was like, well, tell me more.
and I'll never forget the guard looked at me
through the little crack in the window.
You know, you've got the little slit.
Yeah.
I don't fucking know, man.
Just walked.
One wasn't really his problem.
Yeah.
He wasn't his problem.
He's just there getting, you know, fucking $12 an hour.
Sure.
But, you know, think about that for a minute like, man.
Oh, shit.
I mean, it's news of my whole life right here and I have zero information.
This is when she was born.
This is when it was a year.
She was actually born.
She was actually born.
Her actual, like, you know, because somebody calls the jail, like,
somebody dies in your family or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They bring only really bad.
news and some good news like a kid being born.
Normally it's only bad news.
Yeah, it's about where it stops.
You know,
your grandma dies, they'll come tell you.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's going to be hard when you're dealing with depression and you're in prison
and someone tells you someone died.
Yeah.
That's got to be a fucking hard deal.
You can't call or you're in a situation where you can't get a hold to nobody or you
can't get a pass to go to the funeral.
My grandmother died when I wasn't in jail.
Really?
Never forgetting.
You guys were close?
Mm-hmm.
We were close, but me and my father and her were close.
It just hurt me for my dad.
You close to your father?
Yeah, he passed away two years ago.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I tell you how much of a legend he was, though.
The tin roof on Demumbrian has got a plaque for him where he sat at the bar.
Really?
That's gangster.
That is gangster.
Right?
You know what I'm saying?
Because where he sat at that bar like five days a week?
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, they have a plaque right there, Buddy D. Ford.
They're sitting on the bar right there at DeMuroy Street.
That's a dope last name, too, DeFord.
Yeah, D Ford.
I like that.
Yeah, baby.
I like that.
I did some pretty shitty things in that bar, dude.
That's a good place.
Me too, man.
It's a good place.
Yeah, it's fun times.
I've been a few times.
I tried to talk willing to go out
and get drunk with me one night, y'all.
And he politely stiffed me.
He was like, in his defense,
I was glossy-eyed drunk when I asked him to go.
We were at like a comedy club
and I was like, you should go out
and have a drink with me.
And he was like, yeah, I'll hit you right up.
And I was like, I don't think he's going to hit me up.
Did you know what Dan?
Did you think about it?
Yeah.
You think about it later.
I'm going to hit you up.
I'm not going to hit you up.
Oh, I'm going to get to that.
Oh, I'll hit you up, bro.
When I get out.
But it is the fifth.
I was probably looking to the left of them, thinking I was staring them right in the eyes.
I mean, me and Shab.
That's the guy.
That's the guy.
That's the guy that got in Shab off up here.
And I was like, so you know, me and Shab had started drinking that day at like breakfast.
Yeah.
Because you guys had to get together too.
Yeah, we had to get together and did this king of sting.
And the difference was Shab, you know, went on about his day.
I just kept drinking.
I just went downtown and started bar hopping after I dropped them off here, like 1230 or one or whatever it was.
And by the time I showed up to his show, I was.
I was pretty, pretty crashed.
It was a good show.
It was really good.
I'm not in Zanis yet.
I got to go to Zanis, dude.
So you know, you know, I'm there this weekend.
You also come out.
Are you doing it?
Yeah, I'm doing it.
I'm going to be out of town this weekend, but I will, I'll hit you up.
Okay, cool.
Next.
Yeah.
I do it.
Yeah.
And I'm sober this time.
Jesus.
What are you doing at Zanis?
So Josh Wolf does Josh Wolf and friends once a month.
Yeah, we got to get Josh on this thing, bro.
Whenever, dude, I'll call him right now.
Yeah, that's what Brandon was saying too.
Yeah, that's what you want Josh.
Joe. Soles said he wants to come on when he's back in town.
Dude, yes.
Yo, is this thing right?
Hey, I appreciate that too, by the way.
No, that's my mind.
He was like, hey, we the text, oh, about doing bus with boys.
Like, I'm down in Miami shooting, uh, shooting this music video with Andrew Sholes.
I was like, oh, you're in with Sholes.
And he's like, yeah, I'll see if he wants to come on the bus.
I was like, hey, thanks, man.
I, cool.
Appreciate that.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
You know who wanted to come on the bus with me today?
We got drunk on a golf course last week.
I don't know if I should say that about him.
I got drunk.
It's a solid saying.
No one suspects
I don't remember if he drank or not
I was fucking trashed
Michael Ruse
Oh yeah
Ruse wants to come on
Yeah he was coming
He was your last year
He was yeah
He was very mean to me
My rookie year
But I've forgiven him
Really
Well I came in they essentially drafted me
To take a spot
Yeah because he knew he was leaving
The next year
Well I'm the way I've heard it
And I love for him to come on the bus
And actually talk about my rookie year
Because I know there's a lot of people
Who I was my rookie year
In second year
It's totally different person now obviously
they will sort of a bunch of stories.
But Michael, like I heard from another player that he was literally talking the day of the draft.
He's like, basically tonight I'm going to find out if I get an extension after this or I'm retiring next year.
Oh, shit.
That would be a nice little story to hear.
Yeah.
And so then they obviously, they drafted me, which is, I remember coming on a visit to Nashville and thinking, why the fuck am I here?
Like, there's no way they're going to draft me.
They just got Michael or in a free agency.
That turned out well.
And then Michael Ruse, who's been like, been there for, this going into his 10th year.
Eastern Washington cat, like had an amazing career with the Titans.
So, but Michael's a good dude.
He and I have talked a lot about it since then.
I always tell a story about when I first got drafted.
I DMed him on Twitter and was like, hey man, I'd love to like get with you, learn the playbook.
You know, I can sit down.
That thing still has been on red for a while.
Like I have not been able.
He has not said anything back to this day.
But he's a good dude, ma'am.
And we've like, obviously, I can't imagine the day they'd have somebody to replace me and how I'm going to feel or handle that situation, you know.
So.
I forgot what me and Will were going back and forth about that day, but he hit me and I was like, yo.
And I told Michael Ruse, I was like, yo, ironically, I'm out here with like fucking Michael Ruse.
Yeah.
I was like, yeah, but I'm going to go out there with a will and Taylor.
He was like, bring me.
I'm going to come with you.
Oh, dude.
That would be an awesome surprise.
I was literally going to bring him.
But he's like, yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
I'll hit you up right after this.
Hey, just stay out there.
We'll be done 20 minutes.
man. We'll get John next.
No, Rudy. He was serious, though, man. He's a good guy, man.
He's a hell of a golfer, dude.
Is he really?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaking of which, I have formally challenged Will Compton to a golf competition.
I don't know if you've heard this yet.
I have not.
This is big news, by the way.
Breaking news, y'all.
Me and Will Compton are going to have a head on.
We're going to pick a country club of his choice.
Oh, wow.
And I'm going to go out there.
Missouri, Missouri.
Take it to a par three out in Bontair, Missouri.
And this is going to be the first time.
time I get to spank a professional athlete in an athletic competition.
Oh, you're a beast like that.
No, I suck, but I just think I'm better than you.
I don't get less.
He was golfing this weekend with the boys.
I know.
That's when he, that's when he hit me.
I started my Taylor-Lawand troll.
There you go.
Like, hey, we should do this and gamble on it and vlog it.
I'm down bad, dude.
I'll go, I'll ride the car and sit there and watch.
Yes.
Just a shirt the whole time?
Oh, yeah.
I didn't know.
Do you golf at all?
No, golf are people that have made it.
I can't be golfing yet.
Okay.
I'm only 29.
Yeah.
I got so much more life to live.
What's what's making it?
What's the definition of made it?
I don't know.
I'll let you know when I've done it.
We got a lot of things to do still.
Golf is a, I mean, I don't know.
I had two kids, two young kids right now.
I can't find time to do it.
Right.
So much stuff.
And I'm late to everything too.
I would never make it too time.
Today's a perfect example.
I was a 12 minutes later.
This motherfucker told me to hear it too.
Well, they remember they texted and they were like, hey, it's crazy.
I sent them.
I must have been right after you too.
I'm like, hey,
Hey, reminder, 230, jelly roll.
Yeah.
I guess I told him two o'clock.
Because he went to he texts.
I was like, oh, man, I'm so excited.
I showed up on time.
I'm fucking ready, dude.
You're like, man.
I'm glad you're such a fan of the podcast, man.
That's very cool.
It's very cool.
You keep to your roots.
I mean, we're obviously not both from Nashville, but being a Nashville based podcast.
Oh, dude.
It's been awesome.
Very right to have you on.
I think y'all just represent everything that is Nashville too, man.
That's very cool of you to say.
It's been like fucking dope, man.
You've been like a franchise player, I feel like at this point.
Like, you're our guy.
Well, I hope to stay here for a little bit longer, man.
It's been awesome.
You always, when you think about going to the NFL, you always stay with the same team.
Can I ask you all a couple questions?
You drilled me pretty hard.
Sure.
Because I just want to know some stuff.
How does that feel?
Like, do you know you're getting traded or the story is true that sometimes people find out on ESPN?
Oh, that's true.
That's very true.
People do.
Guys don't find out until they see an Xenetam.
Is that for like a lack of a relationship or?
I think it's just the way things are handled.
Sometimes when an office ups and.
stairs, there's 15 and 20 people
revolving door of information. And a lot
of those guys have a Schaefter number, have a Rappaport
number. Yeah. And I think it's like, hey,
we're trading jelly roll to
the Bengals. Tough.
And so the as a change
information, some guy might have to tweet real quick saying
or a text to a Schaefter
saying we're trading so or so. Right.
So they give out the information, hey, run that
through the wire today, this, that the other, some
somebody might text on the side, text shifter,
hey, we're trading jelly roll. Yeah, to the
bangles. Yeah. And then those just more,
to put it on the ESPN or NFL network because then they need to be first.
Because it came up about you today, right?
My boy was like, yo, man, you got to ask Will what he's going to do.
I was like, I just watched the Arthur one.
He's going to say no comment.
Yeah.
I was like, but I want to accept that.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do with this year?
Do you want to play football?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Are you retired?
Are you going to play the Titans?
Hey, I mean, I mean, here's the Navigating Waters will has to do.
The Titans have not offered him.
And if Will said, yeah, I want to be in Tennessee,
then there's 31 other teams that are deterred from sending him a contract as well
because they know he wants to be in Tennessee.
So he loses negotiating power.
You just lose leverage talking about.
You lose leverage.
Right.
So it's like,
but you can't say it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean,
of course I want to play for the Titans.
I love playing here.
Right.
But I would also play for other teams as well.
Right.
Right.
I just hope it's like, you know, it works out.
You just hope it works out.
The way he brought it up was because, you know,
obviously, dude, like invested interest as a Nashville kid, like,
we want you to stay.
Right.
like the spirit of the team, like just everything that,
what y'all are building here, you know,
which I don't think it'd break the band up.
But that's like my fear with y'all too in general.
Like especially with this particular platform,
it's like never break up the band,
dude, y'all get the coolest thing in the world going on.
Well, we both have homes here.
Yeah, we both live here and Will has been stated.
He's a very great glue guy.
And I think whether Will is with the tie-ins with somebody else this year,
that team's going to be lucky to have a glue guy.
The guy that can go in, get in a playbook in two days,
know the playbook,
get guys everybody in the right place smart cat but the reason it came up too he's like man if
it's my boy he but he was like yo man at least find out off the camera like if will's going to
split and i was like i don't know man the way i see this shit on the s p and he probably won't know
neither i don't think he's going to shoot me a text like just letting you know it's interesting you say
that bingles yeah yeah yeah i don't think you know i was like you never know that she could just be on
the spn it's interesting you say that and i'm speaking for will because i can more speak i can speak more freely
about the situation than he can because then it's a speculation but like you never like no one knows
so when a guy doesn't re-sign with a team it's never oh that motherfucker doesn't like this team
fuck him it's like well this that's how things worked out it's the business of the thing and they
sometimes teams even release when there's contract negotiations like we've offered will compton
to be the third highest paid linebacker in the NFL and he hasn't signed that what's that about
that's a negotiation tactic by a team reaching out putting the public eye so then fans put pressure
on the player to say,
hey, why don't you want to be here?
You don't want to be the Titans?
What's the deal?
And so it's a revolving door
and you gotta keep it.
That's fucked up is it.
90-10 them and fucking media.
I guess our shit is fucked up.
I guess it's different because ours is so,
you know, fucking cards to chest.
Yeah.
Yeah, and yours seems a little more,
not wild wild west, but it's like
no one knows of the chess game that goes on.
Whereas a game with the NFL,
you kind of understand certain figures
that are going to happen at least.
Like, again, no one's just going to come and fuck you and you don't know about it.
It's like they just have that access to tweets about their.
Like when I was on the Raiders and I was signing with the Raiders, I was up there not necessarily negotiating, but they had offered me a contract.
I look over the contract to get on the phone my agent.
I'm like, hey, they got this, explain this injury waiver to me.
And he's like, so essentially if you injure anything on your right leg, your right limb, they can cut you and not have to rehab you, not have to pay you, none of that.
So I wouldn't get the split of my contract.
I wouldn't get none of that.
So if I sign that, then I'm basically like, okay, yeah,
if I get hurt, you guys could just send me home and then I'm just sitting at home.
Is there a lot of clauses in y'all's contract?
I mean, it can be.
It depends on the, how the contract is set up.
Nothing that will necessarily, like, trick you too much because you have an agent.
Like, again, the game's a little more understood.
So your agent would be like our lawyer.
Yeah, he just kind of advise you.
He negotiates the deal.
Yeah, he'd be like, you know, this is, you know, yada, yada, yada.
That's essentially what it means.
And so I basically sat there like,
I look at that's not worth it to me.
I don't care to.
Are you allowed to say what the percentage this guy gets?
Up to 3%.
Okay.
Up to 3%.
Players can negotiate with their agent all the way up to 3%.
So they do have a standard on it.
Well, it's just a lot.
It's changed a lot.
No, it's kind of always been like, when Will and I first heard in the NFL, it was 3%.
And then in 2011, when they redid the collective bargaining agreement, first round picks
became like slotted now.
So it's like every person gets the same amount
and these specific things
every year goes up 5%.
So agents
took that and were like, hey, if you sign with us,
we'll give you 2% for the first contract
or we'll give you 1%.
And I think other agencies are doing that now.
But when we signed it was 3%,
and that's what it is.
That's how it's going to work.
Can I ask y'all another question? So check us out.
How many athletes
do you think, like in my
business, I can say 95%
of artists are really clueless of what's going on in their business.
How many athletes do you think are like that on that field?
What do you, what do you mean my business?
They really don't know the logistics.
Like if you sat down with one of these guys, like it's obvious both of y'all know your deals.
You know your leverage.
You know your bargaining power.
You know where you sit.
You get that.
How many of these guys could sit on this bus and would literally look at me and be like,
man, I don't fucking know.
It's tough.
It's tough to put a specific number on it because contracts in a lot of ways besides splits,
besides workout bonuses,
all the, like there's little things like that.
It's pretty cut and dry.
Like you know what your guarantee is signing.
And then every year after that guarantee is like I'm on three one year deals right now from here on out.
My contract's not guaranteed this year.
And each year from now on until my contract is up is not guaranteed.
So the team could cut me and not owe me any money.
I know that.
And I would say a lot of guys probably know how that works.
What I don't think guys know is when they see a big number at the,
end of their contract, they think, I'm excited to get that $20 million, I'd say.
I'm excited to get that $20 million in 2025.
But the issue is, is you make 10 here, 12 here, 13 here, and then 17, 18, and 20.
Well, that 17, 18, and 20 aren't guaranteed.
And these three small ones are, you're not going to get to that.
That's going to get renegotiated.
And so it's like, it's kind of knowing, having a good agent is very important.
Guys that negotiate their own contracts, I couldn't do it.
and I don't know how they do it.
I mean, there's the Russell O'Kung
who did half his contract in Bitcoin,
which is obviously now hindsight,
it's a pretty genius deal.
And then who's Richard Sherman,
he did his own deal too.
But, you know, for me,
I don't know how to look at language.
I'm not a lawyer.
I don't know how to go and sit there and do that.
And so you really rely on those people
to kind of negotiate that contract.
It's more like the financial literacy
when you do have the money.
A lot of guys don't have that.
Like the documentary,
30 for 30 broke isn't just a made-up documentary
that 70% of guys go broke within three to five years.
It's like that financial education
and financial literacy you have
once you start getting that money coming in
because you know when you're,
when you all of a sudden just make a bunch of money,
guys don't necessarily know how to act
and that's not, that's just everybody in general.
You just don't know what to do.
You can, but you know, there's snakes out there.
You got to vet them.
Like, you know, you kind of just don't know.
I can't speak for everybody,
but I do know like that's more of the thing
is like when you get offered to go to some of these financial literacy programs and getting
educated on money and budgeting and this and that, guys do need to soak that in because
it's not like it's fact that it's 70 to 80 percent of guys go broke within three to five
years.
You know what I mean?
Like when we're all standing in the locker room, hey, fellas, like I get we all don't
think it's going to be us.
But statistically speaking, seven out of ten of us are going to be that way.
Yeah.
So right before you walked on a bus, me and Will were having a conversation how artists
have this thing where they'll be like amphitheater acts.
not treat their money good.
And then later in life, you'll go see them at like the exit in.
Like when you see these legacy acts playing for 400 people at the exit in,
they're like, man, you would have been at the Bridgestone 18 years ago, 15 years ago, you know.
That was because of financial literacy, right?
Like they never understood how to take care of their money when they were getting it and went.
Because I told them our business is like yours.
It's a mountain.
You're climbing up it.
You're sitting on top for a very short part of time.
And you're coming down that, motherfucker.
Yeah.
You know, and it's what you do.
with your money in the intermediate and also knowing when to hop off the horse like i plan i can't believe
i'm saying this publicly i plan on selling my catalog when i think i'm right but you feel like yeah
well it's like you know it's like you feel that stock is like it's building a business and selling
a business what's your exit strategy when you're at the top right because if you miss it by a year
you couldn't miss out on millions of dollars potentially yeah for millions of dollars and and the problem
is too, you can go too soon.
I've seen some artists sell a catalog
and then write
the biggest number one in the country
the following year and go, man, you got
$17 million for that catalog.
And if you were waited until this year, you could have got $47
million. And that one song.
If that one song becomes the biggest
song on the planet, oh, like happy,
you remember Justin Timberle? Like, I'm happy,
clap a long, if you feel, or whoever
song that was? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not for real.
I'm sorry. I suck.
But it's like that song, but that
moment. Oh, it could change somebody's catalog
$20 million that year. Yeah.
You know, literally.
We're talking about something that could change. You know, it depends on how much of it,
they owned again, right? Yeah. They just own the
publishing. It could change a couple of minutes. What do you own of your
catalog? You're 100%? 100%. Good for you.
Masters. Let's go.
Yeah. Let's fucking go. Yeah, baby. Yeah, baby.
Everything. I own everything. That's awesome. Never let
nobody in anything.
Even my distributors, I do, I do really
short deals with. And, and when
when, like, you talk to Ernest about writing,
you sit in a room with a bunch of guys and guys
kind of throw all you put some music on, you throw lines for each other,
and you collectively make the song.
How does that look for you?
Is your catalog, you and your songs are what you've made?
Yeah, I've wrote on every song I've signed.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've never not been in the room.
And that's, I take pride in that, Taylor.
Yeah.
I take pride in that, Bubba.
You know why?
Because it's a lot of artists that I've seen get on your bus.
I'm going to do picking with the boys, hopefully today.
If they're ready, I'm ready.
Yeah.
But I've seen a lot of dudes get on this bus and sing a song.
They didn't write.
Right.
They weren't even in the room for it.
It'd be like you memorizing your favorite.
George straight song and then going and singing that motherfucker.
Yeah.
And to me, that's so disingenuine, right?
Like, there's no spirit behind it.
Especially if it's a song, like Save Me, or where you're talking about battles,
depression and who you are, the peaks and valleys.
Like, like, people, like, I would be of my favorite, if I found out Tupac didn't
write Dear Mama.
Mm-hmm.
Like, how much that would hurt me?
Yeah.
Like, I believe that song.
Like, I feel it.
I want to go sing it to my mama.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I feel that.
that and to find out he didn't write it, like, I couldn't even believe in the conviction he
tried to sing it with.
You know, it would hurt my spirit.
Yeah.
You know, like, so many of these artists don't even write the songs they're singing.
But I'll also tell you this, that's the difference between an artist who gets a real
fan base and an artist who gets a flash and a pan fan base.
That's the one where you get to the top and then straight down afterwards.
How many times have you known a song but not the artist?
A lot.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
And then you, for the artist disappeared, you didn't know.
because you liked the song, right?
You never got into the dude's music.
Yeah.
Right.
And then you think about artists like, we talk about those legacy acts.
Kid Rock, Fleetwood Mac, the quickest two to think of.
Yeah.
Guns and Rose, they're a list of them, right?
But Kid Rock always referenced because if you got into Kid Rock,
90% of the people that got into his music really got into the wormhole of Kid Rock.
You Kid Rock, man?
Devil Without Causes.
Yeah.
What?
Crazy.
And you kind of just see the journey.
of him too.
Dude, I could sing,
I've been sitting here just wasting time,
drinking, smoking,
trying to ease my mind.
Right now,
the song came out of 96.
Yeah.
I could sing it word for word.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I could literally sing I've been sitting here,
trying to find myself.
That's a fucking banger dude.
Take some time myself.
I need to rewind myself.
I could sing that song word for word
that came out in the 90s.
I went down the kid.
I'm a kid rock fan.
You know, I can name cold and empty.
I can name soft.
of his that never made radio.
They're just huge songs that in fact in my life.
None of the devil without a cause record made radio.
Right.
And we know it.
You know,
that built a cult following.
Yeah.
You know,
to this day,
he said he's going to plan on him and he did.
I mean,
no,
somebody I'm on now too is,
uh,
NF.
He's kind of like,
that kid is cold.
Yo,
I don't have the plug on him.
I'll admit it.
But he is local.
Yeah,
he is local.
He is local.
He,
um,
bro,
the,
the,
and that just depressive thing
continue to talk about
especially when you're successful now
especially when you're successful now
when you were talking about what you sing
about the first person that came to mind was NF
yeah yeah you can like listen to his album
and like feel what he's going to
and you create those bases those loyal
those loyal audiences that like understand
what you're trying to write about
and in y'all's world it's the bustling
with the boys guys it's the guys in the comment
on this video right now
the ones who
the tier ones baby tier one baby
those do
They're like riding with you.
NFs, jelly rolls, artists like that get to create that.
Co-wets a lot of Texas.
I think he'll end up with the number one song on country radio.
But if he don't, that dude is selling out baseball stadiums in Texas.
Really?
Yes.
You know what I'm saying?
I think I lost my fucking mind.
That dude is crazy.
Texas country is a motherfucker.
Cody Johnson was a great example of that.
Somebody who built a core following.
He'd go sell out arenas now.
He sells out the fucking Houston rodeo.
80,000 people.
That thing is a big ass road.
Is that the biggest radio in America?
Yes.
That's the biggest one.
80,000 people, dude.
And that dude's just now starting to break country radio.
Isn't that wild?
Man, you know what's cool, though?
He owns his motherfucking music.
It did for him.
That is cool.
And listen, man, that dude, I think I'm doing okay.
Man, that dude's going to buy an island one day.
I didn't really know about this whole world of like, I mean, I knew about it.
But then you got like pioneers who were trying to like recreate it.
And I've been following a.
Mike, Mike Studd and he's somebody that seems to be very much
His podcast is fire
Which one is that?
He's got a second on now
You never know that one is fire
Yeah
The dude who's that lineman that was with Mike Tyson
Doing that podcast hotbox and he left
And he came on Mike Studs
But what's his name?
Yeah, yeah, yeah
That's a very insightful podcast
You know I love this music
So like when he was doing the music shit
You know so when they called me to do the King and the Sting record
Oh yo
This is a big shout out y'all
me and Andrew Shulles is this coming out Wednesday for real y'all yeah this Wednesday tomorrow
tomorrow Thursday whatever it is in April I don't keep up with shit like yet but whatever the day
yeah I don't I'm bad at that fuck them it's always Friday but whatever tomorrow and Thursday is in April after
the day y'all are watching this jelly roll and Andrew Sholes are dropping a record that's awesome listen
man Taylor you're a lot of song dude will have I not I sent it to you I sent it to you didn't I didn't
send you I didn't send you when I was down there no dude I'm gonna start sending you something else
You send me something else before you sent the...
Can I start plugging you music?
Yeah, absolutely.
Some other shit.
Ernest will send some sometimes.
Yeah, and I'm going to start bothering.
He sent me one the other day.
It's so crazy, dog.
The Flower record.
So crazy.
But anyways, me and Schultz are doing a song called Open Her Up.
And it is our assessment of the American need to open her up right now.
And it is a country song that I got old New York-ass Andrew Schultz singing.
And I'm rapping on it.
And it is a absolute slapper.
Before y'all sneakie.
out of here, you've got to let me play it for it.
Yeah, 100%.
You're trying to play it on?
Oh, wait, you need to have him.
No, I'll play it, motherfucker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
I was talking about picking.
Yeah, no, I'll play it on here, though.
I'll sing his part.
I'm like guitar guys outside.
He knows it.
Yeah, no, this song is crazy good.
That's wild, dude.
That's awesome.
This song is inside.
It's so funny, and it's so Andrews.
You say King and the Sting album?
No, no, no.
I did on that album, too, though.
That's what made me think about Andrewsawles.
I said, oh, fuck, I should plug that record while I'm here.
You didn't hear the King in the Sting album?
No.
There's a song with Jelly Roll, Little Brows, and Mike Studd.
It's the Thick Boy Anthem.
You'll love it.
I'm telling you, you will be...
The Thick Boy Anthem.
Pour it out my stomach and said, you'll love it.
No.
I love that.
You'll love it.
I'll tell you something.
You're going to fucking love that thing.
I like that shit.
You're going to love it.
Hey, you're going to be all about that shit.
It's on the internet now.
It's called Thick Boy Anthem is Jelly Row,
Lebrows, Mike Stud.
And it is a fucking beater, dude.
It is awesome.
You know, I did the whole, I did the Rat King song for Theo.
Oh, I didn't know that.
It's the legend of the rat king.
It's fucking hilarious.
Who thought of that fucking idea?
Hey, play that thing.
I want to hear it.
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i like that man on there they drop the record of
microphone. We dropped the Rat King
record on there. And that's your Shab,
like... Yeah, it's Shab. So he found... They did a white
rapper competition. And this kid,
LeBrowse, won it. He's super dope. He was the one with the first
person doing the hook. And, uh, they just kind of built a whole
record around him called the King and the Stingham.
Damn, dude. That's fucking tight. That's awesome.
Yeah, no, Shab, Shab is...
Shaw, he's always on it, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He hit me.
I was like, dude, I... It's like the Shoal song, man,
my music's so somber and serious in tone that I was looking for...
That's why I wanted to get on here with y'all, man. I wanted to
fucking, I wanted to spend the first 10 minutes laughing and making dick jokes.
Good.
I need that.
Because people like, I know I deal, I help people with addictions.
I know I help people with depressing.
Right.
But I also want to laugh, man.
I want people to know that, you know, it's like the music.
Sometimes you'd have this thing like, I don't want people to expect me to walk around with my face in the mud.
It's there.
It's therapy for you, too, to be able to laugh.
I get it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, it's like, man, let me come on here and fucking joke.
And you don't have to be serious all the time.
People try to be serious all the time or joke all the time.
You can pick one once in a while.
It's okay to jump ship once in a while.
It's cool to have a duality, Doc.
It's the circle of life, man.
It's why I think the Grateful Dead did so well.
I tell people, you're a Grateful Dead fan by chance?
I'm not a Grateful Dead fan, but I know Gary who's missing here today is a huge one.
It looks like it too.
You fuck with Grateful Dead or not?
No, I just know about their merch that we used.
There's shit, though, their merch, right?
So you'll understand this.
Their shit was a skull and a teddy bear.
Yeah.
That was the duality of the dead.
Right?
That's the brand I wanted to create musically.
I want to create something where you could party to it,
but you could cry to it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that was always my goal as an artist.
You know what I mean?
To be able to take it deep either way.
Yeah.
So that's what I modeled my entire shit after how the Grateful Dead was so good
about like guns and roses, right?
You know what I'm saying?
Like it shows the two different sides of, you know,
sweet child of mine and the fucking heavier shit, right?
You know what I'm saying?
The Paradise City shit.
You know, it's like to me, that was,
just what it was about. Sweet Chowd-Miles, Harold Smith, by the way.
That's all right. I wasn't going to say it. But thank you. You're a good man.
I am. Thank you for recognizing. A guy with his outfit like that, I wouldn't expect any different.
Right. But it was like the duality of Paradise City and the heart of shit. You know what I'm
absolutely. To me, that's what music's about. It's what podcasting is about.
Y'all make motherfuckers laugh and then you dig deep. You know, it's like, to me, that's the
shit that works. What's why we all love Joe Row? Yeah, you got Arthur Smithston on the bus one week
and the next week, Jellyroll. Couldn't be no fucking different, dude. I'm just glad I didn't get no comment.
you yeah yeah
no,
Arthur's all about them
no comments right now
I know dude
he's on a different wave
he's on a different wave
you feel like you had to find your voice
after you like
as you were getting going in
because when I was looking at
some of the stuff
I didn't know you
wrapped like Little White
yes my boy man
yeah
you know you remember Little White
I do not
like back in middle school
like in my sister
yeah
it sounds like fun
yeah
yeah
if you were a white
and you were banging
little white back in the day
dude
oh for sure
fuck you then right
yeah I wasn't
It's like tell me you're in your 30s without telling me you're in your 30s.
Right, right, right, right.
I can't believe you.
That's my boy, man.
He was signed a 36 Mafia.
He was the first white guy that hypnotized minds.
So I don't know.
Are you familiar with 36?
I know 36.
He's the one who signed them first.
They signed him first.
And this dude gave me my first real opportunity, him and a guy named Haystack.
And I love the white for this, man.
He took me on my first tour.
You see the split album right there?
Yeah, we did No Filter 1, No Filter 1, No Filth.
filter two and we're working on no filter three.
Oh, really?
So you're working all the time.
Yeah, man.
I put out 44 songs last year.
That's awesome.
You seem like you're always like featuring and like working with other artists too.
Yeah, man.
I just love to,
I love people, man.
I love to put the dots together, man.
I love shooting the shit with people.
I just, you know, I just love people, man.
I just want to work.
I just, listen, man, I,
God have been so good to me, dude.
I wasn't supposed to be sitting on the bus, y'all.
I was like, you know, there's a lot of people that sit on this bus that you're like,
no, he's supposed to be on the bus.
Yeah.
And there's a group of people that are going to comment like, that's my boy right there.
He shouldn't be on the bus.
He's speaking for us right now.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I was like, so for me it's like, man, let's just work, dude.
It sounds like you've got it all figured out, man.
It's not, I mean, it sounds like you have to follow you on.
You're going to.
Yeah.
That's fucking obesity.
But other than that, fuck.
We've fucking got it all.
Sounds like you get, you've got to figure it out, man.
And having the fan base you do, someone that follows you as tightly as you say they do is unbelievable.
That's awesome.
That's more important than if, like you said, a flash in the pan.
Yeah, man.
I tell people there's in the music business, you got a flash in the pan and a full blown fire.
And I thank God that I feel like I am creating a full blown fire.
It's never over, is it?
It's always a work in progress to do things, whether it's self-work, football, rap, music, anything.
There's never a finish.
Yeah, I really believe that my best songs are in my windshield or not my rear view.
That's awesome.
And if I didn't believe that, y'all, will I quit?
I'd stop today.
The catalog for 44-mill.
right now sell it for whatever i could get for right now if i didn't really like in my
me and my wife talk about this a lot man shout out my wife she's my rock she's helped me she's
changed my whole life i was dead broke when i met her and she she helped me so much but uh i tell her
all the time man i i wake up every day and i just if i didn't really believe that my best
song wasn't in the in the in the windshield not the rear view i'd have to quit today
i don't want to be that guy singing save me in 20 years and that's the only song you know me for
right you know what i mean i don't want to be that guy yeah i mean i'm blessed to be here anyways but
I'd rather ride out and play you don't want to be Sinatra
saying my way in Vegas
20 years after he said my
I would literally rather wait until you all started
your own podcast network quit music and y'all give me a shout
yeah you know maybe something bigger than a bus
because I'm a big fella we might be in the trailer
we might be in the trailer yeah yeah I like that
trailer park pimping might be going on that I was like
I'm gonna copyright that right now so when you come to my ass
I'll fucking y'all be waiting for that check you learned something
a little man or two
I did.
We'd be charging the 95-5.
You know, fucking question.
Hey, listen, it is fucked up a label
to do with NFL teams due to people,
but I would do it.
Yeah, I'm saying?
Yeah.
But changed all of our lives, though.
You know, you think about it.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Hey, you were bringing up your wife,
and it made me think about
when I was adding you earlier on Twitter,
and your latest tweet was just going after
some helpless little soul.
For what did he ask you?
He trolls you.
He said, how do you get a,
how do you get such a hot wife?
and fuck, what else did he say?
He had the nerve to say, how do you get such a hot wife
and I'm skinny and have no tattoo?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was kind of like
giving a backhand of compliment. And he's still single.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm still
the one that's single. And I just, like, dude,
it's two, only two you talk about, okay,
this is where I, full disclosure, the two comments
that bother me are never about me, right?
It's always when they attack my wife or my daughter.
And it's sad that we live in a world where even my daughter
gets attacked. Yeah, it's so fucked up.
That is fucked. She's got her braces and she's getting her
teeth fix and people will like be like what's wrong with your teeth like she's fucking 12 you
fucking bitch right you know what I'm saying like 80% of people had braces what are you talking
about my teeth were fucked at 12 yeah say saying you know what I'm saying it's like get the fuck out of
here you know what I mean but it's like he ain't kidding yeah this is it yeah he said he said uh
how'd you get such a hot wife I'm 26 have no tattoos and I'm not big like you and yet I'm
single as fuck like dude listen man no matter the waiter shitty tattoos I'm confident enough to
show myself because once again this dude has like a fucking like picture of like
YoCon or some shit.
You know what I mean?
Mr. Nobody underscored 28.
So most girls, I said most girls
don't give a fuck how you look.
They care how you make them feel,
which I stand by.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
And I don't say haters shit on social media
and crying because the fat dude gets the pussy
and he don't.
I love if I gave him some information at the end
gave him a little stick in the room.
Yeah, yeah.
It was like, listen, man, you should have to treat a lady, but also
the fuck yourself. Yeah, yeah. It's almost like,
dude, just listen, man, they call my wife
a gold digger. I was
ass broke when I met her.
Man, when I met that bitch,
I was down on my luck.
I'm telling y'all, dude, I didn't have...
You must have some game, dude.
Dude, listen, man, I was just me.
Put the boys on game now.
I got one guy.
Just, just, poor kiddo.
But, you know, just enough to slide in there.
You know, it's enough to...
But she thought I was an asshole
because I was kind of stiff.
I was also addicted to fucking codeine.
Sure.
Of course, I was an asshole.
I answered questions four minutes later.
I looked like, hey, jelly, three minutes later, I'd be like,
stop.
But it's like, she just seen potential, man, and she calls me, I'm like,
I was like her little fixer up project.
Yeah.
And she had money.
She had a house.
I was couch surfing before she let me slide in the bedroom, you know?
Yeah.
I got one night in that bedroom, baby.
It never got off that.
You hear me, dog.
I wrote that pony to town.
I wrote that pony to town.
I rode that pony to town.
Eih.
But, yeah, no, it just worked, man.
That's my, they call her a gold dig.
That makes me a little mad.
Because it's just like, it's just that hater shit.
It's like a lack of an education.
Low-hanging fruit type shit.
It's like, dude, come on, man.
Because you think, like, and also I'm insulted.
Like, you think a big dude, like couldn't pull a girl that looks like that?
Like, listen, man, my wife would be the first one to tell you, I didn't date ugly girls before her.
You know, like, I've always been kind of a, I wasn't like the smell.
Have you ever heard my fat people rant on TikTok?
I wasn't like the fat dude that, like, smelled his earwax and wore a Batman's shirt with his stomach showing.
Yeah.
I wasn't a fat dude on the scooter in Walmart.
I was a different breed of fat person.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah.
I'm fat, but I'll go, yeah, like, I'll get day drunk and go golf with you.
I can do everything but ride a roller coaster.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
And I would really like to.
They just haven't made one I can squeeze it.
Yeah, I understand.
How many times have you tried to have gone a roller coaster?
Dude, I tried to get on the thing to get the ring of fire one time.
Sure.
And, man, I was smaller.
Man, it just couldn't work.
One happening.
Man, I felt like Bowers are on Mars.
car dog when that thing was coming down
I was all hunched over my legs was stuck
in I mean I was just they could have
got it to click but it would have been the most
miserable five minutes of my life
yeah that's a long ass roller coaster that thing five minutes
yeah I don't know how long they are you feel that click
in your yeah you're rid one I understand
I'm guessing I can't understand what you're coming from
I'd love to ride boy yeah but it's like pretty much
everything else you know as a big dude I can do you know
roller coasters and commercial flights just are fucking against you
it's got to be like first class and
even then it's a little pressing.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a little pressing.
I got to kind of get in there.
You sell that catalog.
You'd be flying on a G6.
Yeah,
you're telling you.
You pick up all the plane you want.
Yeah,
for sure.
But I just got to be careful not to go broken.
How many years is it?
Five to seven?
Five to seven years.
Three to five years.
Three to five years.
I've got to be careful not to take enough commercial flights that I go broke that fast.
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What's a roller coaster like for you?
You're not fat, but you're a mountain of a man.
I'm tall, man.
It's really about the decapitation I'm worried about, not the weight.
But what about the ones with the cage?
Because that's what the ring of fire was.
It had the cage over the top of you?
Oh, a cage over top of you?
Oh, a minute then.
No, Paul. I love roller coasters. A cage over the top.
It was like a cage. You know, the one you get in, it's like a cave.
That sounds like a carnival.
We'll pull it up in a second.
I mean, because I can't ride roller coaster, I've never, like, been to six flags.
Yeah.
I must sound like a carnival.
I just go there and be sad.
I'm just saying, walk all my homies to the gate.
See, when you get back, take the fast pass.
I tell you what you need to do.
It needs to be the fatties clothing line and a theme park for fat people.
Man, imagine going around that circle.
For big people.
Could you imagine creating a theme park?
Yeah, that's a.
And that's the one I picked to get on.
Now that I look at it, what a bad choice.
Imagine writing that for five minutes.
That'd be fucking terrible.
After a minute and a half, you're like, can we get the fuck off this thing?
How long did it last?
I was, I was tripping.
They got to be like 45 to two minutes tops.
Yeah.
Oh, that's fucking, wow.
I was tripping asses of the night.
When it was at the Tennessee State Fair.
Oh, really?
And I was just tripping hard enough to be like, I want to get on this thing.
Yeah.
And then it just didn't want to have for me.
The, uh, there's one at, uh,
the one we did is fucking like the roof.
Just five minutes of that, dude.
Hey, what's the one we went to in Disney World, the Universal?
Hulk?
No, it was a small one.
It was like a Space Mountain, the Space Mountain.
That motherfucker, dude, I saw there.
There's a few times.
I would just, I sat on this for the entire ride waiting for it to be over.
It was so, it was, the ceiling was so low.
Because one of those indoor rollercoasters.
And people have gotten to captivated before.
People have fucking died on the Space Mountain or whatever.
Yeah.
So it was
People have died on Space Mountain
I think to look it up
I mean I'm all about being wrong
But yeah
Yeah
Yeah if you don't die on that shit dude
It's crazy
But yeah roller coaster's I'm all about that dude
I'm all about the stomach
Going out healing
It's in the list of things I miss as a fat person
Yeah
I'd love to do a roller
Because I don't have no fear of them
Like I jump off cliffs and shit still
When we go to the lake
Sure
Because like when we're on tour
We have a day off
We'll go find a lake somewhere
And we're in a boat
And take the whole tour crew out
And go find a cliff
And jump off of
And I don't know
Trip at
acid or shrooms or something great.
Yeah, the usual stuff.
Yeah, you know, casual Tuesday.
Yeah, this is the fucking thing.
So my head, fucking way.
My hair is touching the top of that.
Yeah, it is fucking.
Could you imagine taking that on acid?
What a trip that or just even like a thousand milligrams of edibles.
That would be your thousand.
You jump two zeros.
You take two zeros on that.
One thousand?
Ah!
You know.
It's a thousand.
Anything over 500 milligrams for me, but I start to get weird.
Bro, listen.
No one's just like a Stephen Hawking, you're by yourself.
However, I've heard you take 10 and get fucked.
Yeah, I mean, dude, listen.
Sitting there, you get the Stephen Hawking.
Yeah.
I took a smooth hundred on the way.
And I feel pretty nice.
I drank a couple shots at the Keelan and started feeling like, all right, I'm on the fucking bus with the boys.
You're out of the car.
I'm drinking y'all's athletic absence.
There you go.
I like that.
You did it.
What does it say?
I already died once in 98.
That's the...
Deemed unrelated after the festival.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Natural causes.
Natural causes.
Yeah, you just had a heart attack.
But that place is so much fun, dude.
You get a chance to get a universal.
You can pay this fee and have like a, like a chauffeur.
Like take you and the person that knows all about the rides and everything.
And you basically tour.
We had every single park in one day and rode every ride we wanted to.
Really?
Had time for doubles, too.
That's how fast you go through stuff.
Is it like faster than the fast track?
Oh, it's, oh yeah.
You take a van up to the back of the ride.
And then you go up an elevator and you're in it.
No, fucking.
And they stop to people, they go, oh, yeah, you two just wait real quick.
And then you fucking go right in front of them.
And you're like, hey, that's awesome.
And then all of a sudden, you like, I like to ride that again.
It costs.
You have to do seven hours.
10 hours.
It's saying it's 10 hours.
But it really wasn't like if you had a group of, if you had like a group of eight.
Yeah, it's really not bad.
Sorry, it's up to 10 people and it's for the day.
So, what, 2,500 divided by 10?
Well, I don't know the fuck that is, right?
Right, right.
250 per person.
Thank you.
Yeah, you get a little groove, dude.
That's no, that's not bad at all.
We had every single ride in Disney World.
Jeez.
Every single one.
Now, did y'all go like as a crew?
Taylor went to do with the film.
Taylor went to me with the Pro Bowl.
That's fucking awesome.
Yeah, it was right.
It was very nice.
It was very nice for him to do that.
I went to the Pro Bowl.
I took Taylor with me.
Yeah.
He was there.
I was there.
We were both there.
We were both there.
It's fucking, it's rad, dude.
We did Tower of Terror six times.
Now, listen, can we vlog it and make it an Under the Hood when I get skinny enough?
He's a huge fan of the Under the Hoods.
He was telling me that before the bottom.
Dude, I think, I think, like, y'all should do three on a week.
Yeah, I don't want to incorporate it in, like, regular life.
I can't.
I love that your video team was like, fuck you, daddy.
We're not doing no more of those.
I can see like Will just be like, hey, it's me.
All right, it's Wednesday.
Let me do it.
Make it a latte.
No, no, no, no.
Anyway, go to the bus now.
You've for sure
I can handle that three times a week
The other day with the boys, right?
You said what?
You've logged the other day
with the boys right.
Y'all golfing this shit?
No, I just posted on my story.
Bob.
We should have had it.
Yeah, we should have been doing that.
Oh, man, you're missing the mark.
I know.
That shit would have been dope.
Definitely so tough.
I'll find me a little lane with it.
Yeah, man.
I think that shit is fucking great.
So genuine.
And it's like, it's like the people like,
listen, man, it's personal.
Like, this is personal because y'all like
are really open.
But it's like, that shit is totally different.
When I seen you out there tinkering with the fucking generator, I almost pissed myself.
He probably did that two times.
Then he made Jack do it.
Yeah, but it was still.
He was like Jack.
He needed to get to get a fucking rip this thing.
But to me, it was just funny.
Like, here goes this fucking these two professional athletes that are like.
Oh, no, Taylor wasn't there.
Like a shit in the hood.
That was it.
I watched also.
Hey, you and I watched the same video.
We both laughed.
And they're like trying to fucking start a generator.
Yeah.
And I'd been here by then.
So I was like, I'd be there before.
They really do have a generator outside of that piece of shit.
It was funny.
It was funny when I sat down earlier
They were like I was like yo man
You think this seat's big guy friendly
He was like maybe not the bus
But the seat for sure
Yeah
He was like can't say what
This bus is one sneeze away from fucking going
Oh no for sure for sure
But we love it
We love it
I do too I just wish I'd brought y'all a sticker
I brought you a record
You put the record up here's the best
Here's the best thing about not bringing something
This time is we live in the same city
Yeah
You have Will's number
And if you'd like to ask nicely
You can have mine too
Oh yes
Listen thank you man
You're very welcome
Please sir
Yeah
I love the dick down in Dallas stickers
Yeah, he said those out
He's saying one of the pickings and then sent us a bunch of stickers
We had a bunch of sweet out
Three more
Yeah, tag teamed in Tennessee's right back there
Yeah, no dude, that dude
Figured it out
He released that record independently
For him
Makes me smile
Yeah
You have no clue
I know the implications of that
So I'm like that motherfucker go you
Motherfucker go you, motherfucker go
Make some money
Yes, baby, he deserved it
Instead of making somebody else
somebody that don't need it.
Let him get it, dude.
Seeing him sell out marathon was like,
dude, I just watched you sing that song
at Live Oak on DeMumbrian Street
for like 75 people a month and a half ago.
That's kind of like that fast you're selling out
marathon.
Dude, he was, you know what I tell people?
You know this then?
That song was a big song in Nashville.
Like before they recorded it and put it out,
like the song was popping.
People loved it on the Mumbra and they thought it was hilarious.
Really?
Like they requested.
it.
Oh, it's like that.
They played dick down in Dallas, and the song
wasn't even out. That's how you know you've got a big
record. That's a killer.
That's a great song. I remember doing the pod and you guys
being like, this song is number one
right now in country music. We played it.
I was like, it's the funniest shit I've ever heard.
No, dude, it was so good. I'm on the streets like
that. You know what I'm saying? I'm at debumbering
all the time, but I liked
it when I heard it. Yeah, yeah.
I was a bad at it. I just know where we record that's right
down the street, so it's always where we go get our
lunch at.
Yeah.
Are you still on Clubhouse?
No, a little bit.
I'm on there.
It's like it's kind of phased out.
It was as quick.
Yeah,
I was thinking it'd probably phase out.
But while it was there,
I definitely rode that pony as far as I could.
I got on there that one time.
Oh yeah,
we harassed you.
Yo, hey,
talk about casual Tuesday.
So it was probably like 10 at night.
And I'm in my bed.
Sure.
And I,
uh,
somebody had invited me,
like,
send me a clubhouse link.
So I click on it.
It talks about like making the profile and I hit yes and stuff.
And so I'm sitting on clubhouse.
I'm like, let's see what this is about.
So I get on Clubhouse and I'm in this room.
It says, welcome Will to Clubhouse.
And there's people in it.
Jelly rolls one of them.
And he starts like, welcome to me to Clubhouse.
And I'm just sitting there frozen.
Frozen.
You're like, I don't want to talk about this.
Yeah.
I don't want to talk on this thing.
But it was like for me to talk on.
And that was when I first got introduced to Clubhouse.
And yeah, and Jelly gets me.
Right on right away?
Yeah.
Jelly hits me up.
He's like, you know, you're supposed to talk on these things.
It's him and these just different guys across, like all from different parts of the country,
just talking about me, basically.
Yeah.
Like, oh, you know, you do good at this?
And, hey, Will, you're going to, you know, you're going to say something?
Like, we're just trying to say what's up.
You don't hang out?
I'm just sitting there, like, listening.
And I'm going to leave the room.
Like seven strangers at no will.
Because it notifies me.
Will Compton is having his welcome to clubhouse part.
I'm like, boom.
Hey.
It's like, what are you?
I text him.
Like, do you know what you're doing?
right now? Like, you know you're supposed
to like talk on this thing? This is like
you're coming out party. Yeah. And we're supposed
to explain to you how to use the app. You would crush
on that app. I still get on there.
I met like the publicist company
went up hiring. I met one of their people on there.
I met a bunch of people. It seemed like that
little part that those, you know, those few
weeks, like people were really hot on it.
Yeah. Like you get in some good, like groups and just kind of
listen to the shit that goes down. Don't you?
They're fin to open her up.
They're fin to open her up, baby.
Sameless plug, baby. Yeah, I like that.
So what's happening is people are getting away from their phones
and they're ready to open her up again.
I want to hear that song.
Yeah, the world is shifting, dog.
We're going to open her up, baby.
It's happening right now.
We're opening her up.
And the people are getting away from all that stuff, you know.
Oh, yeah.
Go check out the song.
It's Wednesday.
Go right after this episode.
We're about to finish.
It releases tomorrow on Thursday.
It releases tomorrow.
On Thursday.
But when we're got Wednesday, people are watching us on the premiere right now.
Oh, that's right.
When we finish up, go check out my man's song music video, right?
stories or bustling with the boy story will post it
it. It's going to be great. Jellyroll Andrew
Sholes, open her up, baby.
It is time.
Hey, cut this thing so I can hear the song.
I want to hear the song. Hey, yeah. Hey, jelly.
Appreciate you coming on, boss.
Y'all know what it meant to me, man.
You guys know what to do.
Subscribe, right five stars. Leave the comments.
Drop all the fun little comments.
Tithe like Father Luwan asked you.
Tide. Do your tithing. Go to our merch store.
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Bustle with the boys and buy up the merchant
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Shout out to the whiskey jam.
out of way.
Thank you very much.
That is a solid
hand,
can I get to
afford the boys
hat?
I've seen one
but didn't want
to steal.
Yeah,
absolutely.
It's probably
one of ours.
Yeah.
Sweat in it.
Perfect.
It's yours.
Yes.
We read our comments.
We had to cover
something up back there.
Yeah.
So shout out to the
boys and guys.
That's the only thing
y'all sell
that's not just chubby
clothes is the slides.
And we can hook
out fast,
dude.
Y'all slides sold out
fast.
Really?
They sold out
like a
Aretha Franklin ticket.
You just
We had a couple things coming on the horizon that are going to be, you like this fit?
Yeah.
Hey, you're going to like, you're going to like.
Oh, stop it, now.
Yeah, yeah.
And let's go in on fatties because chubby's don't get me.
Yeah, we're fucking gosh me.
Don't worry about it.
I'm a fan of y'all on and off the field, man.
This is an awesome.
Hey, appreciate you, brother.
Great.
We'll talk about all.
Yeah, yeah.
He's going great, though.
Yeah.
Love you, brother.
Thank you, man.
Love you, too, brother.
We just love you to each other.
I love you.
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