Bussin' With The Boys - Jelly Roll Reveals His Weight Loss Journey with Ernest + NEW FanDuel Sportsbook Partnership

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

Recorded: February 23rd 2025 | Bussin’ With The Boys is excited to announce our official partnership with FanDuel, marking the start of our independence era alongside America’s #1 Sportsbook. Country Music Icon Jelly Roll and Nashville’s best songwriter, Ernest join Will Compton and Taylor Lewan on the bus. In this action-packed episode, Will and Taylor dive into hot March Madness discussions before shifting gears to promote Bert Kriescher and share exclusive updates on Shane Gillis’s appearance on SNL. We give you sneak peeks of the new BWTB website and tease an upcoming UFC Vegas vlog, while also hinting at another Meat Eater vlog on the way. The conversation heats up as we debate a potential paintball outing for the entire Bussin’ Crew, including a surprise visit by Delanie Walker at Coop’s brother’s bachelor party where he even snagged some hardware. With a spoiler alert for Severance and the latest NFL news setting the stage for this fall, the episode then transitions into an in-depth interview with Jelly Roll and Ernest. This segment spotlights their independent streak as musicians, Ernest’s journey into producing his own album, and the boys’ reflections on Jelly’s health journey, as they discuss the evolution of music from the rich history of the Grand Ole Opry to the dynamic shift from rap to country and the creative process behind crafting hits versus giving songs away. This wild mix of sports, music, and pop culture promises plenty of laughs, so be sure to like, subscribe, and hit that bell for more from Bussin’ With The Boys. As always, BIG hugs, and itty bitty lil kissy poo’s!   0:00 Intro :50 Welcome To FanDuel 6:31 March Madness Is Almost Here 13:12 Shane On SNL 16:17 BWTB Website Coming Soon 18:09 UFC Vlog Soon 22:17 Meat Eater X Bussin 24:32 Should The Boys Go Paint Balling? 28:58 Delanie Pulled Up On Coop 30:31 Taylor Has Cheating In His Bloodline 36:50 SPOILER ALERT Severance  45:51 NFL News 56:51 The Next Chapter 1:18:09 Jelly & Ernest Preview 1:20:28 JELLY ROLL & ERNEST INTERVIEW STARTS 1:20:53 Jelly & Ern Are Back 1:26:03 All The Boys Are Independent  1:32:16 Ernest Producing His Own Album  1:36:50 Jelly Roll's Health Journey 1:57:24 Taylor Introduced Jelly & Ern At The Opry 2:03:55 Who's Next In Country Music? 2:06:01 Knowing The History Of Country Music 2:08:49 The History Of The Grand Ole Opry 2:11:25  Transitioning From Rap To Country 2:15:49 Jelly Is A Main Stay On American Idol 2:20:17 Will Stood Jelly Up In Hawaii  2:29:36 Art Is Way Cooler High 2:33:10 Favorite Studio? 2:42:39 Commercial vs Private Flights  2:50:54 Police Escorts 2:52:50 UFC Fights Are The Best Live Sports Events 3:04:04 What Makes A Studio Cool? 3:08:10 Feelings When A Song Doesn’t Pop Off 3:13:16 Choosing A Song For Yourself vs Giving Them Away 3:21:52 Bunnie Loves Jelly’s New Testosterone LevelsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And Minnesota. I was watching out of here. I think this is going to be the best March Madness we've ever had. Because we've never had this many good teams, this many teams close to each other. And Missouri could easily beat... in Auburn or a Florida, Duke could beat anybody. These teams on the West Coast, they could beat anybody. And I feel like we have not had this many high-level teams in college basketball in a long time.

That fires me out because obviously we're kind of blockheads when it comes to getting in college basketball. Absolutely. Our first crack at it was last year with March Madness. That was a shitload of fun. I'm a massive fan of like first to 10, them little like live bet, them live prop bets. But because JP's saying that, I'm like sitting here interested. Why is it, why could this shape up to be the best March Madness of all time? Because I feel like every year you start to get that itch.

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And I love the thought process of live betting. The first of tens, all that stuff, just keeping everybody dialed in. It's going to be a hell of a time. Are we going to do a bracket challenge? Have to. Yeah, have to. Got to. I know.

With bets. Yeah. On Fanduel. No, we should do a challenge and maybe a punishment. Nothing, no shaved heads. Here comes with the punishment. Here comes with the punishment. Okay, well, off the top of your head, what's the punishment?

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No shit. Well, we got a week at least to decide on punishments before we need to get brackets submitted. Get those things down then. Maybe, you know, for our sake, maybe some scouting. Yeah. The SEC tournament is in Nashville. Right. Because I'm hearing the SEC conference is like this is the best conference.

This is the best a conference has been in forever. Yeah. They haven't won a national championships and went to 2007, Shirm. Oh, it's been a minute. It's been a minute. Oh, eight, oh, nine. So you could possibly say the SEC might be due. Very due.

They're due. They're ready. I'm hearing they got like 12 teams that could be in the tournament. That would be insane. I think because of the, not everybody has a lack of knowledge on college basketball, but since there is an overarching lack of knowledge of college basketball over Bustin with the boys, maybe J. Rod could like build out a nice little presentation, have them compile everything about college basketball and present it to the boys. That would be good.

God. Or just get like super fans calling in just to tell us why, what to look, like what story? What story is resonating to why it could be their year? Yeah. Maybe get an expert analyst on the pod to break it down a little bit. What should we be looking for? Who are you kind of rooting for? Right.

I got to know these storylines. I got to know what's going on. The rivalries and all that when it comes to this college basketball in the March Madness. But this is where I'm going to take the opportunity to lean on these tier ones. And if I, hey, boys, we all know I'm a little green. So help me out understand this basketball thing. And I'll just, I'll ride whoever. I'm like, I'm a blind horse.

You just take me every you want. Put the halter on, walk me around camp. We're just looking to win bets. Dude, that's all we want to do. On the fandom. I don't care if it's, I could put my name on the thing, but if we can do it together, boys. That's what matters to me.

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Yeah. That was funny. Dude, his, on his clips, when you see him do his crowdwork, it's, he's incredible. He might be second to none. He's so funny. When it comes to the crowd work as well. Guy is top, top tier funny. Willing to blur the lines anyway.

Yeah. Another person who blurs the lines made a second. the parents on SNL. Let's give a round of applause for the boy, Shane Gillis. Monologue, hilarious, walked into liberal territory and decided to go super Trump on all of them. Clips were funny. Not the clips. The skits were hilarious. Like the couple of beers won. Couple of beers. And hey, just a little bump. A little bump. That shit is so hilarious. It hit me. For those you who watched the last podcast, that resonated with me big time. That was a hell of a skit. A hell of a skit. It was awesome.

When they're guessing the suspect, the black and white side on the news? That was-3-0, we're up 3-0. The buzzer-beater one was crazy. Like her name, Lakeisha Thompson. No, my God. Bouser be there.

Yeah. Yeah, he killed. He seemed much more comfortable. He was like, he was in floest in that one. I was, did you watch it? I didn't watch it live. I was just seeing all of it on, on social media, on the X app. He killed it.

I was busy, I was busy gooning on PubG with Sherrne back there. We were running duos on PubG. How to go last night? We didn't get a dinner. We didn't get a chicken dinner. But we did get a two. We got a third, a five, then a couple top 15 finishes. But we were, we were out there throwing some lead.

So you guys are like an above average little duo. I would say, when I'm not playing selfish, we ride. Like, we can cook. Poetry. I've never played PubG with either one of you. I've never played Pub G in my life, but I have played Call of Duty with both of you. And the small sample size I have with you, Sherm,

is you're the most selfish player I've ever met in my entire life. Not a team guy. He goes rogue a little bit, but sometimes you need it. When we're on that map and you just decided to take the bomb and run into the water,

I was so confused. Was anybody else playing with us on the bus? Or was it J-Rod and Koo? I think it was Jared and Kookew. Yeah, essentially I would just grab and search and destroy. I'd grab the bomb, and then I would seal dive into a swimming pool and get the entire squad to then submerge underneath the water.

It was for vibes. But it lost us the game. Bro, it lost us the game. No, not at the end. And they'd be doing the countdown before you start off and you can kind of look around at all the players about to play. And the shrimp's just like rolling on the ground and like looking in the air. Not saying a word.

Just bagging. But just all these guys like standing there with their guns, then one dude in the corner spazzing out. Yeah. Everyone's like, hey, we're going left. And then everyone goes left and you peeked to your right. You just see one guy trailing off by himself. And it's just germ.

I do. I hone it in in PubG because it is a bit higher stakes. It's a longer game. I don't know. But I do get on the mountain bike and I go a little crazy with it. But Will's been coaching me up,

helping me be a better team player. Coach Willie, man. Yeah. You get him honed in. He's a weapon. Yeah. I mean, I see the way he offers.

When I die very quickly in Colorado duty and have the luxury of watching him. Yeah. He knows how to fire a rifle now. Yeah.

He knows how to use a weapon. He knows how to swing it. Yeah. It's just will I lock in will I take it serious? Right. To help get it up. Yes.

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Yeah, yeah. You saw me a little rocked up. A little row action down low. Another sponsor. Ooh. It's kind of nice. But yeah, a lot of exciting things, dude. A lot of exciting things.

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Can we say the website? Can we do that, G? Yeah, it won't take anywhere yet. BWTB. BWTB.com. Simple. Simple. Simple.

BWTB.com. Keep it. Yeah. You go there now and what is it? It says like, don't miss your seat on the bus. No, we change that. We clean it up a little bit. I like that, man.

We're going to be a lot of content coming out real soon. So next week, we go to war yet again. Power Slap, Jack and I will be at Power Slap, will be at UFC. Obviously we'll have all the bets for you guys and all that. Gonna be an exciting time. Main card, Alex Pereira.

This man, and I'll tell you right now, I'll give you a little spoiler alert, Alex Pereer will be in my parlays. He will be in a solo bet as well, and it might be a knockout, because what I witnessed, last time this man stepped in the Octagon was truly incredible. JP knows what I'm talking about. This dude with the drums, the music, the bow and arrow,

which he may or may not stole from me, the screaming, the stare down, the leg kick, all of it, dude, I got Alex Pereira in a big way.

JP. What do they have those odds at right there? Pereira right now is minus 120. And what's Encloth? Minus 106. It's, dude, this one,

UFC is tough to bet on anyways, just because everybody does have a puncher's chance, but Anclov is a, he's a beast on the ground. He's a big dude. He has some, manhands on him. I think Pereira is going to win, but this will be a fight.

I think we won't have seen this Alex Pereira before in this fight because he won't be able to be the normal one, I don't think. Tell me why we won't see this Alex Pereira. He's going to be better, I think. Because a lot of people are out there talking on him. Like, you know, I think somebody tagged you in that video as well, that fan. He was like, what's one MMA fighter you think you can beat in a fight? He's like Alex Pereira.

He's like, I'm a college wrestler. guy doesn't know anything about wrestling obviously he does know a lot about wrestling he works with glover teshero but i think we're going to see uh his ground game elevate and he'll get it done he'll probably i think he will knock him out but it i wouldn't be shocked if onclav does like pulse and you're saying if oncloth dove it's going to be on the ground right yeah god and gagey's fighting as well yeah yeah against fizziev which is a rematch and who won the last that's gagey go back to those odds Mitch Gachie right now is plus 104.

I just want to write Gachie because I saw him quote tweet that video of him getting knocked out in that in that... In the hallway fight? Yeah, where he's like pulsing on the ground. Yeah. I mean, that shit is crazy. That's the max hallway fight, correct?

Yeah. Point into the middle with the last 10 seconds left. Because Holloway kind of pieced up, Gachie, he won that fight. That fight was pretty much over. He could have ran away for eight seconds. But Holloway to sit there, point in the middle of the ring

and be like, show and still give him that little bank on the chin was incredible but dude for that reason i don't feel as good about him because i feel like with these guys that are a little bit older obviously he's still young in normal people world but he's like he's taking the big knockout and the fall off happens fast yeah i'm with you i'm saying i want to write him just because i love how he just leads into the fray of like yeah you guys can see me just seizing out on the ground right now yeah he's like this is why i do it. This is why I do it.

What you say like, win by your sword, die by your sword? He's just fucking shaking on the ground. God, that's fucking crazy, man. Yeah, it makes me want to go Gachy too. I don't know much about this other cat. Like, can you, yeah,

can you tell me a little something about it? Give me a spark nuts version of this guy. He's a fun fighter. Got it. And so it'll be fireworks. Better on his feet? Oh, yeah. Not with a name like that, dude.

That guy's a grappler with a name like that. Is he a tough to say. Physiiff? Yeah. I mean he's good he's good all around he's maniac yeah oh I've seen a little scenes thing on him he is a little fucking Wolverine yeah so we're seeing finishes in these last two fights it's gonna be fireworks yeah this is going to be a hell of a weekend I'm gonna I think I put out a couple bets I'm gonna put out some bet with your heart bets

and then bet with your brain bets but and we'll we'll just we'll have both of them they'll be separated you guys will know which ones or which but I think we got to put something on Gaichi for sure just to see the heart to fight the soul this is why I do it while pulsating the ground you've won me over you've absolutely won me over and then after ufc the boys will be out in Montana again later this month we'll be doing a collab with meat eater so Steve Rinella will be in Cal shout out the boy Cal what was their dog's name again Buford was it Buford no I don't know his name it's a great name yeah that was a good Steve hates his dog.

Yeah. Steve. It seems like a lot of people were hating on the dog too. I like the dog. I know the dog was one of the most well-trained dogs we've ever seen in a couple of the comments were like,

this dog's not trained at all. I'm thinking, you've not met my dogs. You haven't met Waffle. Yeah. That'll be... Or we can't say. The meat eater, yeah, I don't know if we can't say what we're doing.

Let's leave that up in the air. Yeah, it's a fun one. There's levels, right? We went duck hunting last year. We're hitting a new level this year. But going to be hiking involved in that kind of... That's a bit of a bit of...

deal quarter mile I said quarter mile I go oh is that a lot no yeah is there a deal oh they said they got a lot of snow this year that's what they said Montana dude be going there the first time was a little nerve-wracking because you know how these men's men were going to be ended up being the most hospitable individuals of all time like Steve Ronella is one of those guys that you're just like you want to impress him in some way you want them to tell you good job we didn't get that last time hopefully this time we'll get something like that but there's So there's a comfort factor about walking back in there and being like, we're going to see the boys now, not meet the boys. Yeah, coach is hard.

Coach is hard. You get after us a little bit. If we're being dumbasses, tell us we're being dumbasses. But he thinks highly of the boys because I told you all last week, I sat next to the guy at church that owns the land in Montana that we're going to. And he was showing me the text. And he was like, I have the busing with the boys guys coming out to the farm. The guy sitting next to me was like, who is that? He was like, there are these two guys that used to play in the NFL.

they're really funny, you need to check them out. They're a good, they're a good time. This is Steve. That's Steve says that. Yeah. But they don't know anything about like tools or anything. I didn't know. No, we don't know shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are worthless. They don't know shit about tools, but they're funny. God. Feels good. It feels great. It's a good feeling. Not a lot of emotion, so just knowing he sent a message like that. He's heartwarming.

Which is exactly how you'd want it to. You wouldn't want to say it to your face. Like you'd want to hear from somebody, a game of telephone, be played. So you can hear something. one thing shirms got up here do you want shirm to ask a question because I know he just dies

to get this off every episode let it out I think the er sorry hey should we all go paintballing like as a group that could be fun it could be a good vlog opportunity

we get it sponsored thoughts you want my real thoughts yeah this is a no brainer even if there even if there were no cameras and there wasn't a sponsor, whatever it is.

Pain bowling is so fun. I did not think that's how you were going to, what you were going to say. Really? Yeah, you want to hear my real thoughts. I thought, he's about to shoot this down so hard. And I'm going to have to come in after daddy just hit the kid at the dinner table. I'm like, hey, listen, he's just stressed out right now. Like, it's going to be right.

Are bonito fish big? I agree 100%. We should absolutely go paintballing. Get done up, put the face paint on, all of it would be awesome. It'd be nice. There is like a little army base around here. If we could figure something out about us versus like six, seven cats that are like legit. No, no, no.

You don't want that. The way cats operate on the paintball field. Bro, would that not be so much fun? You're a tall target. Yeah, but I can give myself a little spots now. Not at all. Y'all forgot about my stories, dude. I can get hilarious.

You don't need to worry about me. Y'all need to worry about me. I'm telling you right now. I'm an issue out there. Have you hit paintball courses? Once. And I was, I was average. It is so fun.

I know I'm going to get better than the second time. When one of your boys growing up would have like a paintball, a paintball party and just you and the dads would travel out to a course and just play all day long. Like it is so much fun. Yeah. I feel like Bonterre's like where the courses are. There's some courses out there. Yeah.

There's some courses out there. You said travel out to a course like went around the block. Dude's loved it so much like you just play. You just go off in the woods somewhere and set up, set up shop and play. Yeah. They're fun, bro. And then it's like your first time playing. So you're like, you'll get.

get cammoed up or wear too much clothing and then just the afternoon hits and it's like what are we doing then you're out there with t-shirts on it hurts a little bit more a lot more actually but it's fun man but you do not want to get with going against some special force you know or even some paintball team like you get pegged and it's over and they're flying yeah yeah yeah but i'm talking the quick trigger out there you're trying to set up you know you know your boy i'm not the geron let me let me defend this a little bit because i still feel good about it we should go out as a group. Have a little fun. Let the amateurs play a little bit. Grow up,

figure out the gun, figure out the weapon, who's good, who's not. I think eventually, it'd be fun to see if we could just get one of them. Like, you know how they do like hostage situations? Maybe we're the host, like the, we're the bad guys. I don't know, I don't know the right term to use. We're the bad guys. And they got to get us. I think that'd be so much fun.

Especially if you're getting banked once, like, here's real bullets, Will. we're not going to die yeah i know but here's the problem we're going out to this course and we'll probably be renting all of our equipment for the most part these people come in and they have their own weapons they have their own everything right and i'm telling you the paint is flying they're trigger fingers yes so you're getting hit with an automatic i mean the trigger finger yeah you're getting hit like it's an automatic i'm with you i'm not saying like do i'm still down i still didn't be a lot of fun we'll get out there let's get out there just a little us. I can see the, we're getting a little pushback. That's all right. Let's get better. Let's

become a good team. Something I have heard is that the rental, uh, baseline has gone up. They used to just hand you a tipman A5 with like a regular hopper that wasn't electric and stuff. I've heard that it starts cracking while you're shooting. Like my shit's not working. Then you're just getting pelted. Yes. I've heard that the baseline for rentals has gone up. So that's a good sign. Also, I think you guys should draft the boys. Y'all should be team captains. Y'all should draft and we should do at least one Bustin with the boys on Bustin with the Boys

Capture the Flaggame. Agreed. 100%. We'll have to get Delaney. There'll be a punishment at the end. Need Delaney. Need Delaney. Yeah.

Gotta have Delaney. We should just do it on his property. Which one? Clay or Delaney? You guys see Delaney's That's what I'm saying. That Barn Dominion? The Barn Dominion.

Oh my God. 13,000 square feet looks awesome that man's been up to we got to pull up on him I'm thinking I have to take down a couple trees just doing his own thing because he pulled up on Coop he did for uh it was yeah was it coop's brother's bachelor party correct shout out camp shoot out the boy camp dude coop got his first tattoo yeah talk he's officially tatted he came over to the house did all the crew come no no no I was bummed too yeah because I like rushed to the house to get there at two o'clock and he showed up solo my Hey, where's, where's your dad?

He's like, no, they didn't come. That is a funny-ass photo. Oh, my God. He got first? Of course, bro. I love how. Coop asked Delaney on Thursday if Delaney wants to pull up to the go-karts on Saturday. He said he asked all the boys and they couldn't do it.

And then he kind of like half-assed asked me. He's like, I know you probably can't. I was like, dude, no, I have two kids. Like, I'm not going to, I can't. It's just last minute because one of their boys in the bachelor party dropped out, right? so they were looking for an extra fill in. But I did tell him. I was like, you should hit up Delaney.

He's like, you think he'll come? I was like, Delaney loves that F1 place. He will for sure go. And he goes and wins the whole thing. That is hilarious. And he responded to Coupe within like 10 minutes. Yeah, I'm there. Yeah, I'm a pull up.

There's Jared. Dude, we should go do that as well. That would be so much fun to do. Airsoft field too, indoor Airsoft next to that K-1. The honor, the honor system, though. The honor system. Airsoft's a little different because you can't like see where you got shot, if you got shot. We do have cheater bloodline in this in this bus.

Man, I've been trying to. For those you joining Buzzard Boys for the first time, we do a dad combine every year. That'll come out in April, May. Yeah. No, no. Yeah, late May. It looks like out the one that we've done. We do it every year.

We do it every year, man. Late May early June. Yeah. A story is old. time the dad combine we uh and dude i've yes i like i blur the lines a little bit when it comes to board games all these different things but i've noticed that i've been told that about myself like let me make a change man let me be different we do this dad combine and uh we have to mow a lot by the way there's no award there's no punishment if you get last place it's just like dad's hanging

out having a good time and dave comes over to me and goes we're going to win this for sure like yeah what are you talking about i goes don't worry i already took care of it so So we start mowing and their lawnmower turns off. And I'm like, I don't think anything of it. Later, he goes, I cut off their gas line. I'm like, you understand. I feel like the father in that situation talking to it. Like, you know when your dad's like, hey, you are representing me when you go and mess something up?

I had to like have that talk with Dave. You know, you understand. People are thinking, oh, that's good because Taylor cheats. Now you cheat. B or I see what happens for. Oh, Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Weren't you hide that comment and think, yeah. I mean, he's 100% right.

Did you all hide stuff from them on the grill making too? Yeah, they had like a hammer or some part in the building process. I just found out about that a couple days ago, by the way. What? Then you guys started hiding parts at the grill. I don't think we did. You'll have to check the tape on that. Bill was just staying in there.

Yeah. Throwes it. Wait, I'm tripping. I thought y'all were hiding it. You were hiding it? No. Dave tried hiding something at first, but it was like an obvious thing. And then like later on when it was close,

I threw some part and I'm like, hey, they're going to need this part. Oh, yeah. I just threw like up under something. That makes me feel a little bit better. That makes me feel a little bit better. Look at us. And it is.

It's like, yeah, we're just mowing a patch of grass. We're just mowing a patch of grass. The damn mower won't start. A damn mower. Sounds like the gas. Now he's fooled, dad. I'm checking it. Bro.

Seeing Bill right now compared to when I saw him a couple weeks ago, it's just night and day. Last thing I'll do. Bill's breakdown. I think I go back to the YouTube video just like everybody else should do listening and watched Bill's breakdown

at the end of the day. He won the MVP. Bill, break us down. Nobody comes around. He puts his hand up. All right, one, two, three. Like, whoa, wait, wait, wait. People get a little bit closer.

He goes, red on three. Like, no, no, no, no, no. Trying to do the ultimate makeup for the questionnaire. Exactly. That is so funny. Dude, what a fuck. fucking legend. What a legend.

Dad, put your arm down. Red on three. No, no, no. Easy. Easy. You get all red. Oh, man. What else is happening? Are you serious? Talk about 14 being a great year. Anything cold.

You said, you lost your Virginia and pissed on her at the same time. Oh, yeah, man. So check out the annual every year. Dad Combine coming out real soon. Dude, can we talk Saturday? I haven't seen the show. Are we going to talk about the new episode? I think so. I mean, it dropped for everybody listening.

If you're on Severance and you haven't watched it yet, we can hit an average, but there will be spoilers. Because I've got to talk about this show, man. We got some guys on here that watch it and I feel like it'd be fun to break down a little bit. I think before Jack gets off, he should be the one to give the shout out to Mr. Milchick, because they have a point of connection now. Yeah, Mr. Milchek, VFL is a glorified. Tennessee Valls fan and alumni. It's awesome.

It is big to learn. We would love to, Mr. Milchek, if you're out there listening right now and watching, please check your DMs and comments. We'd love to have you on the bus. Mr. Milchick on the sideline? With Jack? Hitting the push-ups after a touchdown? The push-up party has been canceled.

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I do like their kind of interface when it comes to like. Isn't it in the new deal? Y'all have to do a dance. One of the TikTok dances? No, they said back of the bus has to do that, right? Oh, what's the back of the box? We already have those posts. It has to do the trends.

Yeah. Every, I think, week for the first two months and then once a month after that. They love how Shurm comes into the shop every day with a new idea. And the boys have to start back. with whatever idea he comes in the shop with. That's true. So Sherm has carte blanche on anything he wants to do with the boys in the back. How about this?

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Yeah. Okay, so Severance. All right, let me get off. I'm gonna sit here and you guys just let me know when you're done. I haven't seen the show. You gotta get on it, bro. It is the best show. the show in america right now shoressie season four has come out once i'm done with that i'll uh i'll

watch it three more times and then i'll watch severance you go ahead bro how about oh man i wish by the taylor's mike what's that yeah take my take my mic who's take a seat yeah i'll move i'll move join us back here taylor severance pod severance pod Taylor's got the camera You're going to start ripping some photos Where the switch says On off Hey shall we start it off

What are you doing up here Miss Casey Turn around I told you I was telling you in the group chat We're going to have to pull up on Milchick By the way this this bus If you haven't learned already We're massive fans of Mr. Milchick

The weirdness of this show is all time And Mr. Milchick just He's becoming one of my favorites on the show I mean yeah he's he started off rocky in season one but now you get to season two when he's the main manager and i feel like he's he's got a backstory that we need to hear about yeah i think he's going to switch up he's going to switch up for sure by the end of the series but i don't know how i don't know when he's just going to continue to learn that it's it's him against corporate he's just going to learn

that he's just a cod and a new puppy yeah he's the new puppet like when he's in the in the mirror grow grow like trying to dumb down his language because he says too many big words in his performance review yeah but it's awesome the way he talks but this episode that we just watched with jemma did y'all do you all have any idea what the numbers might be that mark ass and the crew is no clue about the numbers so i was seeing that you know how now are you watching a like a recap on youtube that's yeah on tic-tok actually love it yeah shout out ticke yeah and so this guy was saying that you know how jemma is going into all those different rooms right and there's something wrong with each one her hand is hurting when she's writing the thank you notes it's always Christmas also with the thank

you notes flashback when they're doing her and mark story she's like i'll write a thank you note mark's like you hate writing thank you notes that was in their normal one and then in her severed self she's writing thank you notes so there was a few things that she didn't like in her outside world that she was doing in her any world that she also didn't like and so what they're saying they're trying to make the progress and they think these numbers might be the progress to where she got she's getting severed into four different like people four different roles like the one that's doing Christmas all the time and that mark is the one that's doing it with these numbers and is like the one completing her severed like her severed brain into all these different people on things that she

doesn't like to do mark's the one fulfilling those to right to get you severed fully to where now like you don't have bad experiences ever in your life. Keir's trying to create a perfect, a perfect world where nothing is bad, but the only way to do it is to make these people do things they don't like and somehow rewire their brain. So it's like a programming system. Yeah. That's what I heard.

I just felt so bad for Gemma when she finally makes it to the elevator because I wanted her to drop that old bag that was chasing her. Like she dropped that one dude in the room. Yeah. And she's running. I'm thinking you can score up on this old broad because she probably signaled up to Milchek when she's going. running up the elevator.

She gets severed, goes off the elevator, and then Mr. Milchick just pops in. What are you doing up here? God. I'm going to need you to turn around and get back to the elevator. And she's curious about Mark S. Like, I've been down there long enough. Six different rooms. I mean, like, all the names, too, for the rooms that are so key that they show in the

shot. And then Coot brought up a good point that on Mark's desk, the little face thing of his, it says Mark S. Allentown. So there's got to be some sort of tie back to that room. To that room. for them because we've seen what cold harbor that's yeah that's and there that this is one that's going to change the course of looming forever right i'm curious too how the whole uh death is going to unfold with jimma because mark as in the chinese restaurant talks about i saw her body and then we see

in this episode with jimma the cops kind of come up to the door and i'm curious kind of what happens after that like what he actually sees now i thought because i thought he said to his sister at one point which by the way people are starting to say i think sherman might even first put me on this that his sister is bad and working with Lumen because her working with Lumen because her first reaction after Mark's thing went down was to call Miss Cobel even though she knew and they're saying this was like intricate detail when they zoom in on her phone she's using a droid Apple is very keen on not letting people not letting villains use their product in in Apple shows yeah in Apple shows so they're like because she's a droid I got a rewatch that's an Eastering I know

It's when you're sitting here talking with everybody. We do it all. Like once we're like, hey, who's watched the show? And we go into like the streaming room and just talk shop. Like you're at the workspace. You're teaming up with everybody who watches the latest episode where they show you a lot, but also show you nothing at all. And you're just talking theories the entire time.

And this is one of those shows. And the last crazy piece I saw was, you know, when they first meet and they're sitting down with each other and like she's filling out some paperwork or whatever when they're getting those IVs. Yeah. The top of her thing was Loomins. that's exactly what Kup was telling us in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When they were first going in to talk about doing like, were they doing IVF? Were they trying to do IVF? No, no, I'm talking about when they first met. Oh, oh, okay, okay. Like when they're sitting there and... At the library or wherever they're at? Then maybe I misunderstood the time of what Kup was talking about must have been that first time. I think Kup also said that.

Like when they're walking... There's been multiple times. He was saying like when they sit down as a couple to talk about meeting with somebody to help them get pregnant, that the dentist or whoever in Lumen he walks through. He walks past the screen. I think did you send that to us in that text? In a group text? Either you or Kube did.

No, I saw that on TikTok. And not to derail this conversation at all, but just a nerdy shout out that the cinematography in this last episode, they shot all those flashbacks on film. Insane. Anybody that is just like a fan of cinematography, a film, holy moly.

Like storytelling with outlines just like beautifully shot. Wasn't it the first episode with a new director too? Yeah. It's the first one where you don't see Ben Stiller. His name. Directorial debut. Wow. That director had been a cinematographer their entire career.

And then come on, directorial debut, crushed it. Yeah. What a crazy episode. Because they also, Sherm, I might need your help on this one because it was, I think, Gemma said to Mark asks, hey, like, where are you right now? And then his sister also said that to him when he comes to after he's unconscious. So that's another reason why they were saying. Oh, that they think that. Yeah, that she could be bad. You think she's tied to Lumen because of Ricken? I don't know, man. Or do you think she's tricking Ricken as well? Because they asked, the last time we saw Ricken,

they asked him to write the book for Lumen. I know. I still want to believe she's good. But, There is just a ton of, and I could be totally wrong for fans of the show, but they have mentioned that there's never been any shots of the sister by herself being angry with Lumen, not trusting Lumen. When she's around Ricken and she comes in, Natalie's in the room, like she's around Ricken. So she's like acting that way towards Natalie and then she leaves. And she's more upset about Ricken's writing that he's changing the writing, not really talking bad. about Lumen. It's a definitely out there conspiracy theory. It probably won't be true.

But it's fun to think about like, does she kind of know already that there's stuff going on that Jima and Mark signed up for this Lumen thing together? Because who have we not seen their outside world yet? Milchek. Is he the only person we haven't seen like

his Audi? Well, he's his whatever. Because he stays in their business whenever he's out of work. pulling up with fruit baskets. Yeah, he is just around the clock the entire time. All the time. But for how much longer?

I know. This Wong coming for that seat. I know. And did they ever change Mr. Vilchik's desktop? Oh, where he's like, yeah, yeah, where he's just fuming. I need that for him. Oh, right, right, right, right. I need that for him.

There he is. But yeah, if you're not watching Severance, get on Severance because this show is unreal. Oh, yeah. This show is unreal. All right, Taylor, you can tag back in. Oh, thanks, man. I'm coming back, guys. A Taylor crushed the photography back here, by the way.

He legitimately took some really good picks of y'all. Right there's a switch. Oh. How long we've been rolling, bitch. Yeah, yeah. I feel we've touched on everything. You know what's awesome is I have not seen severance. I know eventually I'm going to see severance.

The way my personality works is like, want to watch it and then a year from now i'm like bro have you guys heard of severance and the years will be like yeah it shows dope and then i'll try to talk about with you guys for a month and a half and then it'll be over just like suits um and the good news is i sat there on my phone and my 80s took over and i didn't hear a word y'all said yeah heard something about a desktop though you'd be into it man heard something about a desktop you'd be into it's it um a couple more things then we'll get out of here we'll get it to a very wholesome wonderful podcast and oge a couple of oges Stafford signs with the Rams. How much

is that contract? Do we know how much that was? Because I feel like he wanted 50. I want to say a source told me that the Raiders and the Jets Giants, Raiders, Giants, one of the New York teams, were offering

him 45 and the Rams were offering in 40. So sure enough, when we were talking about that last week, retire over $40 million. But I know that they met the Rams and Stafford they met over the weekend in person. I obviously struck a deal huge for the Rams.

There was a part of me for a minute. I'm like, man, are the Raiders? Is he about to go to the silver and black? That would have been huge. Him, Pete Carroll, Max Crosby, in Vegas, Allegiance Stadium. It would be nuts if he was with the... Chip Kelly.

Yes. What a crazy offense. I wonder how Matthew Stafford, 37 years old, would do it at Chip Kelly offense. Would be interesting to see Chip Kelly and how good if a coach he is to adapt to a quarterback that doesn't run. Yeah, but it's cool that he's sticking with McVeigh.

And they all worked it out. Because you saw McVeigh, he went on, what's their pod? Big Witton Fitton Fits. I think it's Witton Fits. Maybe, yeah, maybe it's. Great podcast. Those guys are all time. Ryan Fitz Magic.

But he was having a real candid conversation. It was cool to like listen to. I saw all the clips that were going on where he's talking about the Stafford negotiation, talking future, what you have to plan for. Fitz and Witt. Oh, perfect. Yeah, fits and wit. Good podcast, couple of, like.

Legends, great guys, Andrew Whitworth, one of the 77s. Yeah. Respect that man. Also on and off the field. Debo. But hold on, just on the Matthew, we'll look on the Matthew Stafford thing. Diana Rossini has her own show and she had Chase, is it Chase Daniel? Yeah.

On there. And you guys were talking about the whole retire thing. That is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life. The whole, if you're only going to get $40 million, you should retire. It made me rethink the conversation that we were having on the bus last week being like, yeah, okay, something needs. If your reason for retiring, it's just you're getting $40 million instead of $50 million. The only reason why you should ever retire from a sport is injury or you don't love it anymore. Those are really the two things that get out of jail free cards in my mind.

Like, I'm sure there's a couple of things I'm not thinking about. But to walk away when you're like, hey, we're only going to pay you $40 million for a year of working. And you feeling disrespected by it. That's such an astronomical amount because he's made so much fuck you money throughout his career. Yeah. It's different if it feels like, you know, you're trying to get $9 million and they're only offering you two or three. Right.

And you're just thinking to myself, like, what is it worth? Yeah, how much do I love the game anymore? Do I love the game enough to play for two? Everyone, if you play long enough, you will get to that point. But 40 is way different than two.

Way different than two. You know what I'm saying? And I just think, this Chase Daniel's cat, like I watched a video and I'm thinking, like, no disrespect to the cat. But let's speed up. He's a good dude.

Let's speed up the tone. Let's speed up the tone when he speaks a little bit because it does, I'm like, hey, where are we, like, let's get it going. And he's saying, if I was him, I would retire.

And I thought I got to turn the shit off right now. I was, that is crazy. We were messaging back and forth. He's like, yeah, I might went a little overboard. Okay.

Hey, he was laughing back and forth. He's a good guy. It's just like, bro. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Quarterback from a zoo. I mean, he was a satellite. Like Carol Kat. And he was kind of like one of those journeyman backups where he's getting a nice chunk of cash just to be the backup because he could, he could go out there and sling it.

Yeah. No, like more than that. No shit. He was getting, pull up chasing. He was making like 10 or 15 a year just being a backup. Maybe he would have retired for 40 Venn.

I don't know. But in the way, just when I saw that clip, and I went and rewatch the interview itself, just the Matthew Stafford portion. Yeah. It turned me off. It fires me up that you're saying. Great clip for the internet, though,

for everybody to argue over and break down. Fires me up that you're saying he's a good dude. Yeah, he made 41 mil in his career, Super Bowl champion with the Saints in 2010. And he played with one, two, three, four, five, six, seven teams. Yeah. Nice.

He's in that nice backup role. She's getting paid too. He was legendary in college. He was insane in college, man. Because then Blaine Gabbardt came right after him. Oh, so Missouri had a couple of, like, wait a year stretch. Well, and that was the crazy 08 season where it was between Kansas and Missouri for the Big 12 North championship representation. It was number one versus number two, Kansas versus Missouri.

Crazy. Because that you always say, Missou, Mizzu beat Oklahoma when Oklahoma was number one. And that's when they stormed the field. And Mizzu was just having a hell of a run. Mm-hmm. They were having a hell of a run. Yeah, but that's all I had to say about the Chase Daniel thing.

Fires me up that you say he's a good dude. You know him personally. Yeah. Because when I'm watching that, I'm just thinking, this is madness. You're triggered. I was sitting in our den. And I'm just watching the video while Jared's

getting set up for the Red Dead stream. I'm just like fuming on that chair by myself. Like, what the fuck are we talking about here? So good. Fire's been put out. Debo to the commanders. Go ahead. Debo to the commanders, I think that's a big move.

Now, Debo, he's got the injury history as of recent. But I feel like trading, just trading for a fifth round pick that's like big potential upside for somebody who's like a utility dog out of the back field in the slot, wherever you want to put him, the creativity and a Clingsbury offense. I think it's a big one for Washington. You just hope he stays healthy. Because they have other weapons too. It's not like it's just on Debo.

Right. I think that's going to make him even more dangerous. And it helps opens up those guys on the outside. Again, if he can stay healthy and he's got the chip, a boulder on a shoulder because he got traded for a fifth round pick, I think it's big upside. It's not a lot of – it's not a whole lot of risk because you know what you're getting. And again, you just gave way a fifth round pick. Right. Debo strikes me as a perfect candidate to add the boulder on the shoulder for a fifth round pick trade.

Like he is – that guy's going to take that personal in the best way possible, the utility weapon. Like, you're saying the word utility guy can often be seen as an insult when it comes to Debo. we were able to put him all over the field except for the starting five offensive line like he is a weapon that you have to account for every single week when he's on the field hopefully sustains those things not having so many injuries

like he did this past year but the dude is an absolute stud game cock go Cox but this is a perfect example of winning in the draft you get a guy like Jane Daniels where you're like you have a team that can win now we need a couple more pieces juice up the offensive line a little bit

get the defense to get in that that top 10, you know, get out of that middle of the pack range. You have the affordability to go and get and take on a large contract like Debo Samuel because you have a quarterback that's on their first contract in the NFL. If you're able to do that, these next three years for the commanders are going to be one you're like, hey, they can legit go and win it. They could go and win it. It's a nice window.

Yeah, man. A great window. And as long as Janis stays healthy, man, as long as he stays healthy because he does take some hits. He falls gracefully, but he takes some. hits. Yeah. He said, yeah, I had that, I was talking about that in the season.

Like, he does know when he's like out of, out of like, there's too many guys around him. So he gets down. But there's a couple he's getting like tossed doing somersaults in the air. And you're like, okay. How do we avoid those couple boys right there, you know? So I think the commanders are in a good spot. If you're a commander's fan, if you're a part of the commander's team, you're sitting there. You're smiling going, hey, we got a shot this year.

Looking at a good futures bet on the band of the bando's sports book. Yeah. Good futures bet. Let's just look it up on the Fando's sports book right now. Pull it up. While they're looking it up, the bills also, they've put their bid in for Miles Garrett. No shit. If they could land him.

Buddy. If they can land him. I know the bills. The bills are just in the spot where nothing matters. Nothing matters except for the Super Bowl. Right. Plus 2,000? Is this to win the Super Bowl?

That's for the Super Bowl. Plus 2,000. it might be time to jump in. It'd be fun to jump in and ride. Yeah, why not? I think this year we should do that too is all kind of pick a team that's out of our norm

and be like, okay, this is what we're going to ride with. When we started talking about the bills, that's why I started thinking about that because you want the bills to win it, man. You want the bills. Bad. Was this NFC? Nope, just Super Bowl.

I don't see AFC and NFC yet. Like division and conference. Got you. Got you don't take a little time. Yeah, drafts got to go by for agency, all that. I wonder if those are I wonder if those are odds before the Debo contract

or since the Debo contract? It's a great question. You would think it since. Yeah, I was going to say I bet it's I bet it updates very quickly in the gambling world. If it was that different. Commander Super Bowl champs.

Bengals are sitting there pretty high. They got to fix their defense. They've got to fix that defense. I think it fixed that defense. I think it fixed the defense. They can win it all next year. Question for Will Compton,

if the commanders win the Super Bowl, where are the changes you get a ring? Oh, is... 80, 20? Who knows? Probably a fat zero, a fat goosey. Oh, really? You never know.

You never know. You were a captain. Yeah. Who knows how they treat their alumni? We'll find out this year. I know if the Raiders won't, I'd probably get a ring. No shit.

The way that they treat their alumni? No doubt. Man. And I'm not saying all teams treat their alumni bad. I'm just saying like it's crazy. I feel like with the, with the Raiders email, the alumni email,

the access that they give them, just all of it. And if you're always reaching out. If you had the luxury of playing for a few teams like you did, you get to compare and contrast to these other teams. Yeah.

Yeah. We do not there. Who's rolling out the red carpet? Who's going to recruit? Raiders are number one by far to you. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Washington's up there because again, Washington is where I spent most of my career. That's where I have my best football memories. Besides. But as far as the luxury of recruiting. So that's 2018. Yeah

Dude we got a hell of a podcast for you guys today man Jellian Ernest Hey how excited bro Again not to just continue to harp on Fandall the boys going independent But this is this is the next chapter We're in it And for people who are curious about like you know

The whole the whole sellout The whole sellout headline people act like Barstow was Shooting with us in the gym the entire time Like we were standing this thing up Before Barstil, they identified a great asset. People called us sellouts when we were going to Barstool. Now that we're going independent, like, we're going fully independent. And for people who are having trouble wrapping their brain around it,

it's like here's an easy example as I can give. We were on the phone last week with our sales and everything else talking about, like what partners are going to be working with. Like this deal that ultimately we're in with people like, oh, money, this, money, that. Like, we're going to be making like over double what Barstow was able to offer off the few partners that we now have. Whereas last year, the offer that we have all encompassing for bars.

So we worked with what? 30 different partners. Yeah. So at times we felt like we're just saturated with our content because we're making so many. Hey, we sold this. But you also see in the comments too, people like, hey, why there's so many ads? Why is there so much this? And it's like we weren't in control of that process.

We do. We're told. Yeah, we do. We're told. Contrary to popular belief, we were good soldiers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We were incredible soldiers. We sit there, lay on the grenade. Yeah. Yeah. So getting to be picky, getting to kind of just do our own thing. And again, we're making the website. We're going at it with our own merch, but just to kind of be a little bit more selective with our partners in the future.

We're able to do that. We have full control. And we get to do it to support of Fanduil. And I mean, it's fucking exciting. That's awesome, man. It really is. It's going to be a fun few years. See where we can take this thing, run around.

See what we can do? I mean, the boys talking in the back of the bus. There's some whispers of a short bus. podcast. Yeah. Working title. Working title. Working title. As of right now, short bus podcast. Comments are, comments are flooding in saying, I need it. Like I need to breathe. Oh. Okay. Mitch. Oh. I mean, I'm not, that's not me saying. That's the comments that are saying. That's the comments. Would you love to see? That's all that is. The tier ones are out there. Yeah, I mean, we're fired up. Who knows? Maybe our episodes get some numbers.

Well, Mitch and his competition with episodes And other brands Yeah I mean if you're not Fighting for something To get to chase after Then what are you doing it for? Amen

The love of the game man It's a poor graphic Get on it, Coot Hey Mitch is acting different Hull over Mitch is different Put the glasses on Put the glasses on Damn

Hardly fit Yeah no doubt You better get those back From before they break Yeah, kind of hurt my eyes. Will you say, G? We can cut it if not, but do you all want to tease the video that y'all are working on? The video will play at the start of this episode.

Do you want to talk about making it? The video is fun to make. And, boom. No, like making the video, it's like you know going into the video, it's going to be a big announcement. You're wanting anybody, whether it's the tier ones, the stoolies, people who love the, who follow the podcast industry, people who just want to know. our story. It's like we wanted to craft a video that kind of like told our story. So getting to go back to where we shook hands at the best walk Chinese restaurant, getting to go back to the gravel parking lot,

the shed behind the abandoned church, getting to hit all those spots. And the guys who were shooting to Shirm, J.P., Jared, guys who hadn't fully grasped all the history with Bussin before we became where we are now. It's like we wanted to kind of capture all of those things in that video announcing our, you know, awesome partnership with Fanduil. So that's kind of like what we were wanting to hit on. Yeah, that was really well put. There's not a whole much to add it for that, but like the, my favorite part of making that video was between takes kind of reminiscing on

the gravel parking lot, all the, the train that's going by right now. Hey, every bus with the boys podcast, you're going to get the train, then going to the shed, walking inside the shed, it's literally like a time capsule. Like our old Celtsor, our, uh, Hunter Briley, our, one of our first sponsors, being able to see all that, it's like literally nothing changed. We left and no one's been in that shed.

Since we left like three years ago. It was unlocked. And then, yeah, the church, the abandoned church, it was just, it was awesome to film. It was a fun, like, full day of really being able to break all this down and seeing it and then watching it come together the way it has, man. It's awesome. And anybody who, like, tunes in for the first time, if they're, like,

fans of Jellywell or Ernest, or they just seen, like, some rumblings going on about I was going independent. They just want to check it out. Like, it is a great snapshot to see, like, how these last five years have gone with Bust and with the boys. And it's just, it's cool to see this next chapter. and what's going to happen next? We don't know.

We have an idea. But there's just so much opportunity out in front of us. And we're excited for everybody that's joining this whole thing. And just talking about some of them old stories, like renting a fucking generator. Yeah. Just a save cost. Yeah. Like, hey, let's rent first because we don't know.

We just don't know. You don't know where shit's going to go, man. You don't know. No clue. And I remember thinking like, like in the beginning, we'll put in, you bought all the cameras and mics and everything like that. I just paid for the bus and to gut the bus and get it all kind of done up. And I'm thinking to myself, man, if I can make this $10,000 back, that's a good investment. Like this, it'll be a fun, good investment. And to see it truly turn into a career, it's awesome.

And it doesn't happen without people watching every single week, subscribing, unsubscribing, commenting, all those things. And seeing where the industries went to and I'm not saying like we were the pioneers and any of this, like who knows if people were pulling and spoke from it. But just to see where the industry's at where athletes are now having podcasts like it was so foreign at that time yeah because again the only true inspo as from athlete to podcast media was mackafee and mackaphy being a pro bowler having the big time contracts that you know he talks about like his comedy tour like he had a lot of things going already that allowed him to just be like oh this is going to be the move to retire because i have shit i can do he saw in front of him yeah he saw in front of him

where it's like he's like i can make this money like this is no big deal to walk away to where i know me personally, I'm sitting back. It's like, you're kind of going like, hey, we don't know if this podcast is even going to take off. Like, let's figure out if you can play football while trying to stand up some podcasts. Right. And just seeing it all unfold the way it has with just the inspiration and the blueprint of a Pat McAfee.

And also when you look back like JJ Redick in the basketball world, but there really just wasn't anything going on and see where the industry is at now with athletes having their own thing and doing their own collaborations, whether it's podcast, content, vlogs, YouTube channels, whatever it is. It's just cool to see that we took a shot back then because it did. It very much felt like a shot that we were very insecure about it first.

And there's a point in this video, it's very quick where you see me and Will talking in a team meeting and Brabel standing in front of us, pissing off Braybel. I cannot stress to you how much anxiety took place when we were sitting in team meetings when the podcast first started.

Well, it wasn't even we. Yeah, it was. It was me by myself. I'm an unemployed free agent. Will was unemployed for a year. And then they'll walk in during OTAs after Delaney Woff. talking about almost dying from an IV and walking in the trainers are came to me like

you're a fucking piece of shit like what are you what are you trying to soil us for and I'm I'm not trying to so obviously he's just you told a story he's alive and then you go into a team meeting and Vrable pulls up a clip of me and will sitting on a bus with Delaney in a gravel park in our first episode our first episode he's like guy listen I it's great you want to start your media thing that's awesome but like let's just remember the keys when we're talking where we now that you are the media let's talk about the keys, how we handle ourselves. And you're just sitting there, there's a hundred people.

Upper management, guys, like guys that just got drafted. There's 93 players and then, you know, another 20, 30 staff. And you're just feeling you're all alone. And everyone's like, what the fuck is Taylor doing? What an idiot. You just sit there. Rule number, like, rule number one is like, don't do anything that hurts the team. Right.

And Delaney tells a story about almost down. And not only did he tell the story, I doubled down and said, yeah, me too. Jags game, Thursday night football. I remember feeling terrible because too much air got my IV. And we're like, that's why you need to get like third parties with IVs and stuff like that. You kind of just put the training room in such a tough spot. Just absolutely. And then when you went to the Raiders and you called me and you're like, dude, there's this cat, this rookie named Max Crosby who's like about the show.

Yeah. And just thinking like all the way across the country and, well, yeah, in Oakland at the time, there's people that are watching the show and embracing it. And then us being, and I don't know. we are not tasting the bubble outside of Tennessee right even though I wasn't on a team when I'm sitting and watching you guys because again that was their year that was the year you ended up going to the AFC championship but you started off like two and four like when I'm sitting there watching you guys lose all I'm thinking about is fuck man I hate that we got to put out another episode and like I'm like I don't even want to ask Taylor to do an intro not only that the first

season bust world the boys came out I was suspended for the first four games sitting at home and they're like this fucking guy in his podcast you rather do a problem I'm I really want to be on the field. And dude, the second guessing, the being like just scared about everything. Like Will and I would get off the bus. We would do like three episodes in a row to backlog for the season. And we on our car rides home would be on the phone. Like, what do you think about this?

What do you think about that? That was kind of stupid. No, it was fine. I think it was fun. And it's like this game of insecurity of us trying to fit a puzzle piece to see where the next thing is. And I don't know if it's like a lot. Like we always go back and forth. Like were we the first like players to start a podcast?

Or are we not? Like let's just say for like we were. Let's just say we were. It's so cool to see now in 2025 that everybody's got a podcast. And whether we were a big piece of that or a small piece of that, like it is so cool to be a part of like the changing of media and to sit on this bus and be able to change the landscape of media, whether it's half a percent or 80 percent. It's just it's awesome to give the voice back to the players. And the players taking that and being like, well, we, everyone. wants to tell our narrative why don't we tell our own narrative that's why busts with

the voice has been successful is the people that come on they sit here they talk to us they say things they feel comfortable to say things with us then they get off and they're like i didn't like this isn't this we don't keep it and say oh sorry you said this so it's going to come on the show it's like let us work with you to make sure that you feel comfortable coming back on again and again yeah that's why you see so many recurring guests on bustling with the boys so it's awesome it's awesome that you guys get to see that three four five minute video of how this whole thing started just a snapshot of, yeah. It's because, again, it's like, we stood this thing up.

It wasn't like, we pitched an idea to a network, and then you go in and they own all of your stuff. We were able to position ourselves in a great spot to where now it's like reaping those benefits to where the number one sports book in America wants to be our presenting sponsor on Bustin with the Boys. They believe in us enough to put all their shit on our shit. Yeah.

And put us on their app and be like, please help us grow this brand. It's like, how fucking cool is that? And, you know, we've worked with them. I mean, for a couple months now, we've been in talks, figuring out how we're going to launch and everything. Like, it's going to be fucking awesome. It's going to be awesome.

And it's going to be, it'll be fun, man. Yeah. And with the boys, too. Like, this crew that's sitting in here. Like, there's going to be a vlog dropping, I assume, this week or soon, about how the boys have been able to feel a similar impact that we have from the deals we've got. Yeah. They don't say too much doing the vlog.

Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. But yeah. And obviously, you boys know how much we love. you we we tried to explain it to you and we all sit down on this bus and talk to you guys like you guys have been like such a big part of how bus from the boys has been successful it's just because will are in the mic like do editing the videos like late nights like planning all these things

out will and i being idiots at times and fucking stuff up having to redo custom socials having to go back because we put the the kick on a couple years ago and getting yelled at by dave and all those things like thank you for everything we really appreciate y'all what's what's what's what's been your most frustrating moment with with the boys with us yeah yeah i mean i feel like this one's like a because we're kind of telling them i know we're it is we do this we do that it's like i want to i do i would love to know the the easiest one is whenever you need will and you text him he doesn't answer but you see him tweet like 20 times yeah it's like i look you know what let's stop this game I'll co-sign that

because I will I'll say you bye to Will and I'll be like oh fuck I forgot to tell him this and Will and I are way differently I'd rather much rather call you than text you because I'm just like

hey real quick boom I'll call and we just said goodbye it's been three minutes and he won't answer and then I'll see him tomorrow and there will be no answer I'll have to ask that question

the next day now do me do me do me and get it over with I just Mitch I said mine before and I was the first one to say and I felt awful for doing it.

What was yours? Mine was the same thing that G said but I will knows that I have like so much anxiety texting and so he does his best to respond back to me. Look at you tearing a big stick. Do me, do me, JP, do me.

Do you? For you uh, like I don't know, maybe like a it's not a crazy big one but if ever there's an influx of ideas it feels like we need to do this this this this this and this and in my head i'm just thinking of the editing of all of it and the amount of hours of editing does not match up with the amount of days that it would take and so it feels impossible so i'm like i don't know how to i don't know how i'm going to please this guy

that's fair that's fair big ideas guy yeah but i think uh and mitch could probably speak to this too because it was frustrating and it wasn't even so much on y'all as it is just the nature of the business but like getting the text at 11 p.m. like hey we need to take this out of the podcast and then having to come back up here stay till like 3 a.m. before and let it export and everything and then even if like yeah stuff like that but I also will say y'all handle those like our mistakes very well and like yeah I mean y'all y'all are really good. good about handling our mistakes and being kind of like gracious or

showing grace with those and on a positive yeah great uh shit sandwich that served right there yeah that was nice kind of makes you forget about the the critical eye

yeah like I say something nice and jack over there stroking that mustache even waiting for an opportunity they got too much I mean I don't have much I mean I feel like well if you could guess you would know and it's what Mitch says when I text you over and over for videos. And then you like, you're like, yeah, I got you.

And then it'll be two days later. I'm like, hey, about that video. But no, I feel like, yeah, you guys are gracious with us. So I think we can be too. And we also are all around each other constantly, like in such tight quarters. It's bound to get a little heated sometimes. But over the last five years, there's never been something that's like dramatically made. I find people angry.

I mean, maybe, but I think everything's cool. I love it. I love it. Sheram, you got anything? Do you remember you in your first nine months? Yeah, I don't know with that sample size if I really do have a good one. Nothing that was like super big. I feel like with Taylor, we had a ton of communications through DMs before I was full time.

And so that communication was like super helpful with the types of memes and stuff that was making with them. You are big on calling. You're also big on voice messaging. I love the voice message. Which is so helpful. And it's changed a ton since I'm here in person. But to that point with Will, it was more so just a text of the broad idea. And then you send them the meme. And he's like, not what I'm looking for at all. And that's like all you get back. And then you're like, oh, well, I can, what would you like to change? No, it's good. I already posted something anyways. We're all straight. I'm like, oh, damn. But now that I'm here in person, like you're big on face-to-face.

You talk a ton when you're in front of somebody will. But, you know, yeah, you can pick something apart in the text. There's nothing wrong with that. Pick it apart. All right, all right. I had to dig for something. That was all I could come up with. The cool thing, like what JP was saying is like the graciousness and stuff like that.

It's like some places you're like, hey, you're, like, hey, you're. we need you you need to cut this out they're like hey cut this out and it's like they don't know you don't understand they don't understand like what that means for us but you like will has been or taylor texted multiple times like hey this sucks but you're gonna have to go cut this out i know it's ass but like you got to and it's just yeah and like even a couple weeks ago when i And then I came back and I sent Will like, hey, maybe we need some of that little food for the boys. And then you ended up hooking it up. But it's like you guys know that it's like kind of ass that we have to go do it.

But and it like so it makes it easy. Like, okay, they know. They're not like, hey, just go do it. They know like, hey, this is going to. I know this sucks. But you kind of land the plane easy. Mm-hmm. Mm.

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So you're waiting on them to give you the green light on reaching out the sponsors versus trying to just go in. and take as many sponsors as possible that we're working with you. And it is cool that True Classic's coming with us. Like when we first got in touch with him, I just remember the CEO, Ryan. Like I had a massive order for Christmas for my brothers and my dad.

I spent like over $1,000. He identified. He's like, oh, that's bust with the boys. Ends up sending a bunch more free merch. And they end up coming on with us just because of that big purchase that was made. And so knowing, like, we have a cool relationship with Ryan and knowing that he's coming with us, that he's bringing True Classic with us.

It is big time. I mean, from head to toe. Taylor's talking about the jeans, the sweatpants, the shirts, everything. Hold the sweatpants out a little bit more. So how much stretchy that is. You can see the calf definition. You're wearing nothing.

You're basically wearing nothing. Yeah, super comfortable. And he just got sending us these new shirts. They've kind of done some new material with the T-shirts. Yes, bro. And it is big time. We're fired up that they're coming with the boys, working with the boys.

Because it's like even if they weren't, we had started wearing True Classy. before they came on as a partner. True Classic kind of fucked up because if they said no, we're not going to go with you guys, I'd probably still just wear true classic. Yeah.

Yeah. But, you know, Ryan, by paying us because I'm still going to wear it this shit. And also, dude, what I love about Ryan is like he understands, like the giveaway game, like the pricing, everything. So like, I'm sure in the next year, there will be so many true classic giveaways. Oh, yeah.

It'll be massive. Like when the, a big memory that comes in mind is when the tornadoes were happening in Nebraska, he's sending a shitload of product everywhere in Nebraska when people were affected by that so he is massive on the giveaway he's just he's just a guy's guy

he's a guy's guy and if you want to feel a guy's guy's guy while wearing guys guys guys stuff go to trueclassic.com forward slash bussen that's BUSSS I am true classic dot com forward slash busing let's get to this episode this is a special episode for us

we were kind of like hey this is the big announcement podcast who should we do should we get this big time guy we've never talked to guest and then we started talking a little bit more and it was like why don't we get a couple of people that have been on the on the bus several times oh geez not only our OGs if there's like being around us and our homies but they also have ascended to new heights that are crazy jelly roll is conquering the entire world earnest has 11 he's written 11 singles and has one sing uh sorry 11

number ones and has a number one himself like very well known that earnest is possibly going to be the greatest songwriter in Nashville history. Like right now he's the greatest songwriter in Nashville. Everybody wants to one with them. It's, Hey, you want to get earnest in a room with you. He's that type of cat. And you guys see Jelly Roll everywhere. We had the opportunity to Grand Ole Opera.

We talked about that last week's episode, but like this guy, you see him. You see how humble is, how nice he is. And you see his journey with the whole weight loss. You're like, is this guy really like that? Jellyroll is every bit of that and more. Like, he's always great to the boys in the back. he treats us like family like he is an amazing individual so

he dies into all those details talks about the insecurities with it and everything so this is a big one on his weight loss journey for sure a big one and he's I mean Ernest made a joke but he looks like a before in a before picture but like he truly he has made such a big change

like you could see his face is starting to shrink his body he's just starting to wear himself better and so I'm excited I can't wait to see in a couple years like where he's at he might be just jacked who's the dude from remember the Titans you know the big head heavy guy. I forget.

I don't know his name. But that dude had a similar weight loss journey. He was on Rogan like I don't know how long ago but he has like a legit six pack now. Ethan Supply. Ethan Suffley.

How lovely you type in my name is Earl. But he. Great show. Great show. Fantastic. You see this is the, how insane is that? Have you seen this guy before?

Have I seen like this? No, have you seen this action? Yeah. Yeah, I've seen him but I didn't know he looked like that now. Yeah. Dude's made some big changes in his life.

Anyway, that being said, jelly roll is definitely on. that trajectory right now. Let's enjoy this episode. Thank you, Fandul. Thank you everyone who watches this show. Please subscribe, unsubscribe, re-subscribe, and then comment. Big hugs, tiny kisses.

You're rolling? Y'all want to rip these things off or what? Rip what off? No, you're solid, dude. What's you drinking on? Lemon waters. Mount Malik and check yourself. Jelly is oldest time. Come on here with that gallon lemon water? Keep that stomach.

You see the lemon floating around in there. Yeah, you can show it. Paupie. You can show we're, we're, uh... I feel like lemon water would just feel nice. Dog, first thing I want to say is that there's no way... Have I ever... Is this always been the couch? Yeah.

Yeah. And I've sat here with you. Hey, we're tortured. This is different. Damn, bud. I weighed 40 more pounds than I do now, too, last time. Yeah, dude. We had to have been like, yes.

I think we were just like that. I miss you. By the way, feel free to get closer to it. There's room. Hey, we've got room. for Jesus. Jesus would have to be anorexic, but we have room for Jesus. Room nonetheless.

Listen, my wife, you say that all the time. We lay in bed late tonight. We first got together. She'd go, look, we cuddle until we go to sleep, but after that, we need to leave some room for the Holy Spirit. That's how she played it out to me, like, our first night together. I was like, gangster? Gangster?

Like, oh, back-to-back sleeper? I know we got the duo back on the bus. Yeah, they're back. O.G. boys. So somebody's sitting over here? What do you mean? When you had both of them on? Because I think that was during my honeymoon.

somebody or I mean trust me I would have opted probably to do that I think so many do we're trying to talk to earn I'm gonna have you look back at that episode and see if we just left Will's as if he was here in spirit yeah let's see what yeah let's see what it was looking like no there's where there's no no dude I'm wearing I'm dressed like Rocky Balboa I'm wearing a gray old you're confused I have been on this bus so much yeah oh yeah you're right there was a time where it was just me and wheel that's what I sat there and There was the time where it was me, Taylor, and I think Ernest was seen. Yes, we did a three piece.

Yeah, because obviously, you know, me being so much fluffier. There was one time you came on after my Fourth of July party. I know when I almost shit myself on this bus. You actually, yeah, you had to go and leave. I had panicked shit. Yeah. I never forget that shit the rest of my life. You were moving.

It looked like I passed a weed basket. It was so bad. Yeah. Yeah. It is crazy how much y'all have been on this bus. We built this bus. Yeah, we built this bus. Because when we first had you on, you were going viral.

Both you and me are like, ah. That's like row 33 on a Southwest flight. That's 33 D and E on a Southwest flight. And we can't wait for our little wafers. God damn. You boys are like different human beings. Different human beings. Look at us.

God damn. You miss your hair? No. Do you miss your beard? No. Kind of looks sweet in that photo. I don't miss anything. I don't miss anything about that guy.

I don't miss it. I don't miss that guy. I don't miss it. Dude, how much different is it looking at that photo, really? That thing, head the fish's pecker out of his stomach.

What? I did he have a lot of my stomach. What? What did I do? God, what would I know about your pecker? God damn. But we're fucking back.

Yeah. Completely. You know. Same guy. Same guy. Same guy. You were looking at jelly. Jellie.

You look at a completely different human beings. Oh, man, yeah. God damn. How long ago was this episode? Two years. Two years? Couldn't have been two years. Earned did look smaller there.

Two years ago. Oh, you're saying the opposite. Maybe it was the black. Maybe it was a lot. You're saying I've gained weight since then? Two and a half years. Yeah, two years. What a start.

Two years ago. You still had a job two years ago. He's a starting, all you. Talk about I looked better there. So, Julia lost a bunch of weight. Rosie O'Donnell there. You know what I love about this? It reeks of real friends.

Thank y'all boys for having us back. Hell yes. I love y'all. Even just the first episode of the conversation, I was like, this is how we would talk outside the bus. I mean, this is the launch of our independence. It wouldn't feel right if it wasn't earned and jelly on it. This is it.

It's 1776 today, dude. Yeah. We just wrote our Declaration of Independence. We're rolling now. We're going. Good job. Declaration of Independence. Let's talk about it first.

You all live there. or y'all want to do it separate without us? No, no, we'll live there. This is awesome there. Congratulations, man. Listen, I know not that y'all, y'all were in a great deal, but there was a time in my life that I was in a bad deal. And getting out of that deal made every ownership decision after that, every independence,

every next move means so much more to me. And I wonder if that's how y'all feels sitting here today like the fucking bus is back. God, that's a great question because you did you, we were in a great deal before. Like, Barstow was awesome to us in every way. And it was a difficult decision to like kind of go into it. independent. But once like you once we saw the path, it was like, okay, this, the bus, nothing's changing with the show. Like there's the show is going to be the show. But like the opportunities that it presents with, the access to other places to go to being able to. Because like Barstool is unbelievable.

But there's also a lot of red tape sometimes. Like if you try to do stuff in the NFL or colleges, stuff like that, because they've been around for so long and they've pushed the boundaries. A lot of people don't understand like, especially when we first started. They didn't really understand how bar Stool is not trying to hurt people. They're just trying to be real about conversations. And then as like towards the end of our deal, people were really starting to be like, okay, barstool, people are training more towards the barstool world. But this is going to be awesome to like find new people to like kind of be a part of this

thing, go and see like different events that we've never gone to before, have that type of access. Also acting as a complete independent. Yeah. Like that's, you know, like that's a, that's a cool thing. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like me and Ernest were just talking about it to throw Ernest, throw Ernest under the buses is that Ernest is producing his next record.

And in my eyes, I knew Ernest was a producer three years ago when I got him to produce son of a center, four years ago. Ernest didn't quite know it yet. You know what I'm saying? I'm one for one. So we're having the coolest moment ever right now. Ernest is like, you know what?

I've decided to produce my own records. I was like, fucking I screamed that four years ago. But it's so cool now. Ernest's sessions are different. Like he's not locked into a writer's room now when he texts me and now. He's like, yo, I'm at the studio. He's at the studio.

Now he's producing records. Yeah. No shit. It's pretty fun. I mean, it's going to be with other produce. I'm going to co-produce and bring other people in. But, like, Joey is so busy and they're launching the rock stuff. They're going all in on rock.

And because of him, like, I feel confidence in being empowered to just state my own opinion in a studio. I'm no, by no means, a mix engineer or even an engineer at all. I'm not the guy at the computer. I, like, I hear the music. I want to pull the band together and sing the parts and stuff like that. those are, that's what I'll bring to the table as a producer. And you're producing your, your next album right now. I'm about to start.

Yeah, we just did, we got the Cadillac sessions coming out, which is with all my guys. I started a record label. I started a record label. Let's fucking go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you. Celebrations all around. Celebrations all around. Independence, baby.

Deville Records. So, uh, I've got Chandler Walters, Reese Rutherford, and Cody Loden. And we went and cut like 16 songs. each of the guys got two original songs and did a cover. I did like three or four originals did a cover. I got a Snoop Dog feature on there. We got Miranda Lambert, Jake Worthington. There might be one other last minute that comes through.

But yeah, we're going to launch it all together. I'm going to put these guys on as best I can, and then they got to go out and make it happen for themselves. Now, did you have kind of these plans in place before your independence kind of set off? Just talking from our experience, it's like, yeah, the Fandual Deal got us away from bars. stool but you're sitting there it's like once those conversations started to take place and you

realize like oh we can collaborate and kind of work with whoever and the phone's kind of blowing up and we can kind of pick our brands when you said fan duel out loud just now part of me was like we got we got to cut that I know I feel like it's weird to even say fan duel and the cats out the bag with everything else but did you have like there's where some of these plans in place or you're like all right I'm going independent I do believe in myself I'm not independent I'm still in partnership my label it's still Big Loud records and then my my joint my joint venture with Big Loud is is the Deville records. So as an artist, I'm still signed to Big Loud Records, and I'm just going to take on some of the responsibility of bringing my, presenting my album to the label. Like, have some of your own creative

direction? Yeah. And they've always given me creative direction, but I think this, this is going to be without Joey Moy, which is scary because he's the best. He is the best. He's the best. And what is, Joey is a, he's a producer. Producer. And literally, literally on Billboard Hot 100, he's been number one for almost, I feel like, years. Yeah, really. From starting Nickelback to Florida Georgia line at their peak, Morgan Wallin. You know what he's done? Why I respect Joy Moore, and I think he's the best, one of the best to ever do it in any genre.

Ever. Is that he's proved ever, Alzheimer. Yeah. Is that he's proven he can do it over and over again. And he creates sounds around times and artists. Mm-hmm. Like, think about how different Nickelback sounded when we first heard Nickelback. think about how different Florida Georgia line heard

when we first heard Florida Georgia line think about how different Morgan Wallin sounded when we really got into the dangerous record you know what I mean like we've watched this dude make the biggest artist on earth Hardy four times over Hardy's rock sound like that's Hardy Spirit Hardy songwriting Norway where he wants to go

but that's a guy that can create a stone cold country record but also knew enough about a nickelback record like yeah we can put out a metal record you know what I mean this dude is like that is what to me that's like the range. When you have that kind of range,

like fuck you, man. That dude's fucking the goat. So this guy's staying with the times and also finding the new times. Always. So we look back at the 20s and the 10s, we'll look back and be like, yo, that was Joey essentially.

And that's what he's doing. Look for the next wave and it's going to be rock and roll and Joey Moy's going to be right behind it. Really? I promise. You know I got a rock and roll voice. I know.

Don't leave me hanging on. I know. But watch, I'm calling it. Rock and roll is next in the big. Do I have a camera? Oh, you got three. Yeah. Oh, damn.

I never saw you. Never did. I've been looking at this guy and nobody's looking back. That's why you said, they're everywhere. I've been talking to this. I've been talking to the fucking. I was like, all right, if there's one camera point you. What are you talking about?

I'm doing making direct. I'm breaking the fifth wall. I didn't even know what was there. That it is nuts. It's nuts. It's nuts to see you guys blow up the way you guys have. It's been the relationships that like I was saying, trying to say before like when we had you on, you were going viral for doing fake cracking open beers.

Yeah. I love when that makes it's annual. turn. Yeah. And it goes every time. Yeah. It'll go forever. It goes every time.

And then jelly and I were talking about this at the Grand Ole Opry sitting in his car while I was like in panic mode. They're coming. They're coming feeling. I was too many vitamins. Oh yeah. But him saying, I remember sitting there with somebody at a truck place and be like, hey, you got to have this jelly roll guy on.

I'm thinking, we just started this podcast. I don't know who this is. I don't really listen to rap. And then Shob comes and you just rolled with him. Yeah. And you were just such an awesome dude. We're like, yeah, well, for sure to get this jelly roll guy on. and then look where we are.

Five, six years later. No, true story. Life has changed so much for everybody. And it was in like pajama pants. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The gravel lot days.

Now look at you. Just keep from me. Switched up big time. He had the shades on. I was hammering mimoses out of a, out of a Yetty cup. I had a big thing of champagne and orange juice was just hammering mimosa. Ripping up. I'd like to say Ernest is growing up, y'all.

It's been really cool to watch. I've grown up. I mean, he'll still, you know. There's a lot of room to grow. but I've grown up. Yeah. He left room for improvement, of course, but he's doing great. I'm moving vertically on my, on my chart.

That's all you need. That's it. That's all you need, man. Yeah. Yeah, Geronimo. Here comes the crash. So when you're starting to produce this album, you're about to do it. Like, how does that process go?

Like, have you written everything already? And now you're going to go in? I'm just now starting to write. All the Cadillac sessions is done. We got the Masters back. That'll come out sometime this spring. But for my album, I just now started wrapping my head around writing it. How sick was it with Snoop Dog?

I mean, that is, when you were in the first team. I only met him because of Jelly Roll. I mean, that's all jelly. He created that relationship because he's Jelly Roll. And then Snoop came to Nashville to pop up with Jelly Roll. And I tell people all the time, I was like, I didn't follow my nose backstage because that would have done me no good. It always smells like Snoop Dogs backstage.

But I went to where the most security. was and I was like you haven't told you this that's the best way to go I went to where there was a bunch of security and I went to one guy and I was like is Snoop back there and he goes no and then the guy that knew me

comes back from behind him was like he's back there I was like all right so I weasled my way back to the door there's one more guy and I was like my name's Ernest I just played out here I'm opening for jelly can I meet Snoop? He opened the door he's like Snoop you good and he's like yeah come on i go in it's snoop his camera guy and like two other people uh it's like oh my god

this is literally the moment i've been waiting hey man come here all hey uh can i you might have you care if i maybe can i smoke with you can we smoke and dude he's like yeah for sure he pushed me on top of the little mini fridge he pushed me some weed and a backwood and i'm like hell yeah i know how to roll can't find the seam dry dry wood so i'm just i'm just just sitting there. I was like, bro, this shit's not cracking. I'm sorry. I know how to roll a blunt. I swear to God. Yeah, he's like, it's all good. He hands me his. We smoke. And I'm like, I was like, can I show you a song I just wrote? I wasn't even pitching him a song. Snoop had a blunt lit. Think about how Snoop this is. And Ernest said, can we smoke together? He just gives

them a bag. Yeah, roll your own. He was like, yeah, get out. Yeah. Yeah. And then that said, but that didn't work. So, then we're sharing one. I'm playing. I was like, can I show you a song I just wrote this week? and he was like, yeah. And so. What you got to love about Ernest. He's halfway through a blunt with a stranger. He's just like, hey, pop off that Bluetooth right quick. It wasn't even Bluetooth.

I was like, put this to your ear. I'm like, put my phone. No, I'd not. Why does it leave him back here? Immediately put Snoop in, whoop, whoop, you're going to demo jail. And he, the video you see on Instagram is him listening to it and we're catching a vibe, smoking. And then he was like, run that shit back. wanted to hear it a second time.

He's like, I need your number earned, send me that shit. And so he just lived with it for a couple weeks. I sent him a video from the Cadillac sessions when we were shooting. And it was like a video of my Coupe DeVille pulling up in the drive. And it had that song behind it. So I was just showing in the car. And he was like, I need that record. And I was like, I need that record.

I'm launching this label. Boom, boom, boom. But do you want a verse? And he goes, Blue Heart, Blue Heart, Blue Heart, Fire emoji, Paul Print, Paul Print. And I took that as a yes. Hard yes. And I sent him the session and like three days later

he sent me back his verses. And now he's going to come to Nashville and shooting music video. No shit. That's amazing. The record's crazy. Snoop is awesome though. That's insane.

And it's also the balls it takes to walk into a room with a stranger and be like, can you mind listen to this? It's just crazy. How is very high and nervous? About how many hits artists has wrote though? What's,

what artist on earth don't want to talk to Ernst? Is Snoop verse in this world? And somebody goes, Ernest. You've tried with Chalers. He don't want to talk to me. You never know, dude.

Tyler's all right. I'll call. We'll see if we can get them on the phone. You are. You're the gatekeeper for everybody, huh? Well, he was nice to me. I'm saying, I like him. Tyler, I'm not even going into that.

Tyler, I love your music. I shook your hand. It's all good. Tiler, you're the best. Come on, we're the boys. We'll talk about it. Anyways. Yes, we will.

Dude, also like Feathered Indians fire But anyway Unbelievable song I'm I'm a You're all man Yeah

Yeah, I love that record Dude I sing that I sing that thing And my wife in the kitchen I beat the brakes off of it All the time The song or

Both You know your boy losing weight I got my testosterone I got some energy I used to You're disappeared. Hey. Hey, what's your test out right now?

What numbers? Dude, I get tested this week, but we're guessing it's probably like 556. Let's fucking go. Motor up. Dude, I started it like double digits. No shit. My estrogen was so high. Double digits?

Wait, double digits, dog. They'd never seen it. It would say. Listen. Hodes the world record. Judge was a little of transition. I had to take another test because they didn't believe it. They were like, this is crazy.

Really? Dead ass, dude. And I lost a little weight and six months later took another test and I was like 120. Wow.

Had to feel good to see those three digits. Even then I was like, oh, I'm getting there. They were like, we'd like to see you in a thousand. I was like, ooh, I'm not there.

Nowhere. And my estrogen was, as you could guess, super high. And we're looking at testosterone, you got estrogen. You know what I mean? And the funny thing,

I want to get an estrogen test. I want to know. Just that one. You want your testosterone too? No, no, no, no, just the estrogen. Tell by up here that you've got a little more of the most. That's the first tale.

It's right there in the boobage. You know what I'm saying? Don't think of it. Yeah. Hey, I saw Ernest the other night. I walked in door wide open to his room. He's just sitting there.

Shirt off, chilling. I've seen him do it on stage. I'd be shirtless. 30, 40 pounds heavier. It's fucking a festival. 50,000 people. Ernest does not get it.

Live it, man. I love my body. Look, Ernst's shirt. Yeah, Ernst. Australia, that'll happen. No, that is so funny. In Australia, this is a, this is a, the reason that ended up happening is because two days prior at the outside festival, they were all screaming shooey, shooey, shooey. And two songs in, I was like, fuck it.

I did a shooey, drenched my shirt in alcohol, took my shirt off, threw it into the crowd. And then my next song was, uh, ain't as easy, which is like a slow. sad songs. I had to do the rest of my 45 minutes shirtless. I mean, I got sad songs. I'm holding guitars and I'm looking like that holding a guitar. I'm thinking, good day for flower shops. Be a good day for t-shirt shops. Yeah, there it is. Look at that. What a look. What a commitment. Way to own it, dude. That's all time. We spend enough time on this double-digit testosterone. The people listening, like, the highest level is like, what, 1,200? I think so. I don't know. For you to get medically, like if football players are below like 290 or 300 or something like that, like three times, like they test that way three times, you can medically get prescribed testosterone because your testosterone is very low.

Yeah. For you to be double digits, like that is, I've never heard of that in my life. It was unreal. Whoa. And then it was, now we're getting way more even. I got another blood. This is my first blood test. I'm like, I'm doing every three to four months.

And I was doing every month. I'm doing every three to four just because I see what's happening. So it's like, that blood ain't going to tell me that my body's not showing me. Right. You know what I mean? Does that make sense now? Yeah. Where there was a time where I had to watch it all the time, like, just make sure we don't have any heart markers going. When you're 550 pounds and a full-blown alcoholic that does cocaine, you got to worry.

And that combination is crazy. That was happening for quite a while in my life. I feel like a drug dealer could have told you that. It was great. You know what the drug dealer is like, you sure? Yeah. It was just like, no. You want how much?

All right. Okay. But it's been cool, man. I started with Gary Breck. who was the first person that came in and really like got me right. And then I've been working with, since Gary Split, I've been working with ways to well down in Austin, Texas. Brigham and Dr. Denise, they do Burt.

They do all the, all the Austin homies. And they've just, dude. And the cool thing was she came in on some really cool stuff. She said, look, we're going to go back to grassroots with you. We're going to get off all this stuff. We're going to take a little testosterone. And she gave me a metformin. Because I still haven't took the shot.

And for the record, I want to be clear about this. It's not that I'm against the shot. Like anybody out there that's struggling with major obesity, if your doctor believes that the shot is the way for you, I think you should take it. You're talking about that, OZMPIC? OZMPIC, I don't know what they are, whatever they are. I think there's more than OZMPIC.

But any one of those shots, if that's actually can, I think it, I know people around me that it's changed their life. My problem was it had one side effect that everybody had the same side effect. It was indigestion and acid reflux. the way I've treated my body, my stomach is the worst thing I have gone. You know what I mean? So I was like,

I can't afford to fuck my stomach up anymore. Like, I'm to a point now I won't take antibiotics when I get a cold. I'll take an antibiotic shot, but I try to bypass the gut because I focused last year on really reset my gut.

So that's why I didn't do the shot. So she was like, look, your insulin is through the roof up. She was like, at least take a metformin. It'll start helping you. That's it. That fast. Testosterone started going up.

Estrogen started coming down. Natural. I didn't have to do an estrogen blocker. or nothing. It just kind of naturally started. She was like, trust me, the titty number is going to come down when the pecker number goes up. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense.

That's a layman term way for me to get it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's been working, dude. It's just been that. And I'll tell you something else. And I'm really speaking more so to y'all watching this, anybody who's dealing with real obesity, like super obesity. There is

no getting around food in and food out. You can, I don't care what diet you try to chase, whether it's keto, whatever works for you, works for you, but it only works for you because your body is burning more than it's consuming. It's that easy. You just have to be disciplined in that. That extra recess cup that you think don't matter.

If you do that four times a week, that's an extra 2,000 calories going into your diet that you don't want to think about. You know what I mean? It's like these are the little things. Like I had to cut out. I had to completely change my relationship with food in every aspect. I had to get very, I have to treat food that. the same way I treat cocaine now.

Like, I don't want it. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying? Only on a weekend. No, no, no, no. Can't wait for this analogy. Yeah. Break this is watching down.

Instead of having four bucks, just one bump. And that's only four X's four less bumps a weekend. I can sell a baloney sandwich for 40 bucks. I love that y'all known me long enough when I said that y'all were all looking like, I wonder where this is the turn. And for the first time in my career was the right thing. I got a treat it. I got a treat cocaine.

He said in such a moment, too, I got to treat it the same way I treat cocaine. Yeah. I don't want it. When they first showed me this picture to the left, y'all, I thought somebody had distressed my face. Y'all know, I didn't know I was out here looking like that. But, dude, even your skin, your skin looks healthier.

Like, it's a crazy change. Yeah. Yeah. You're happier. I'm way happier. Yeah, man. I'm so much happier. Let me ask you this.

You've done a bunch of, like, you've come the bus lots of times you've had the lemon water you're saying i'm changing these same changing that but like for whatever reason you'd stumble what was it about this time that puts you on such a consistent drive man it's funny at the very beginning of this journey i got on the bus last year about this time talking about this and i'd love to go but i can't wait to go back and watch some of that to see where my head was at the beginning of it because a year later i can tell you that what it really came down to was two things one i knew i was going into my 40s and i knew that nobody at 550 pounds lived to be 50 I've seen very few 600-pound men at 50 years old.

Like that was that obvious. And I was like, oh, this is crazy. Like, that means I wouldn't see my son graduate high school. Like, I started looking like that. That started getting like mortality more than I care to admit had something to do with it. Like genuine, like, dude, I'm going to die. You know what I mean? I could feel it too, though.

Like I was so fat, I couldn't sleep comfortably on any bed, any situation. I never had energy. I just, dude. I mean, I was getting flat disgusted with myself, like every facet of myself. And I'm already fight with these demons anyway. So you start adding like, you know what else happened? Man, this is probably too honest. But I always thought that when I got to the success that I'd like all the mental problems I

had, all the addictions I had would just like disappear. Like, ah, I made it. I'm out of the neighborhood. I've got money and financial security. I'm just like the world's going to turn into butterflies and care bears and fucking hallmark cards. You know what I mean? And it wasn't that way. Instead, it was more pressure and more shit.

And I just dealt with it the way I dealt with all the pressure my whole life, eating, drinking, drug, and all that old shit. So I just started getting. And then just little things. I couldn't wipe my ass. At 550 pounds, dude, it was a fucking workout, dog. I would have to put my arm on the wall and turn a little bit with making sure the wall would keep it that way. You know what I'm saying? And there were time.

No shit. You have no clue what a 550-pound man has to do. That is fucking wild. Having to make sure your arm stays there. I want to reenact this for y'all. Just your rest doing this gently while it's all pinned up. I hope that's enough. You got to put wipe your butt.

And then he looks at it's like, oh, this is a bad shit. I'm going to wipe a lot. Did we not early on? See, like, look at this. Look at this. This big dude down here, middle page, that dude right there, he's not wiping his ass out. For sure, that dude's 650,7. He's just sitting on it.

For sure. He's just fast, about once a week, someone comes and cleans them. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. The bidet was a game changer. Yeah, it's crazy. The bidet helped me so much. So, so much.

We love a bidet. Yeah, but a bidet is also a guessing game. You know, I'll pass a tissue. I guess I'll do this. You put the spitz on there for a while. I hope it's getting clean. I know, you know, you still, you still have to make sure. You got your one wife to make sure.

You're like, okay, I got it a little bit more work. Yeah. I'll say this. Let me get up on the wall. You got to put the shoulder there. So I'll show you, dude. It was insane. I had to do it for so long.

I went to do it the other day out of habit. I was like, I don't have to do that no more. I can just fucking wipe. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy. Fuck, yeah. That is so awesome. And eating clean, too, you probably get to experience some ghost shits where you don't have to wipe very much.

Yeah. No, no, no. Well, you wipe twice and you're like, at my, it's, I'm wrong. No, they're awesome, dude. Get them big old fucking, big old fibry-looking lords. Ghost wipes is a great band name too. I'm living.

Fibery laws, dude. Just sit down there, just peeking just out of the water for you. There's a quote in the, that I heard the first time I went to Alcoholics Anonymous that says, something along this line is that people only change when the pain to remain the same is greater than the pain it takes to change. And I hit that moment in my life. That's the truth where I was like, I have everything. thing I want and can't enjoy it at all

because I've allowed this addiction food thing kill me and immediately it was like just snap and also having a no compromise mindset like I do not I have not ate something with bread in a year

like this in fact I'll give some super obese people just one real tip right now that'll change your whole life today is if it's baked fuck it anything that has to be baked don't fuck it's that easy unless it's chicken

I was gonna say that was on my head too but anything that it takes anything that takes flour anything that involves bacon like that fast you cut so much stuff

like everything that's really tearing your stomach up and carrying that way the unnecessary calories that are just sitting on you I just got rid of that it's kind of that easy but it's a non-negotiable

for me Taylor yeah like non-negotiable last year correct me if I'm wrong too but you were also talking about potentially having kid as your health journey kind of started and something that kind of got you in check and staying true to it yeah now we announced that on this podcast me and bunny's journey into having a

baby and we're still right in the middle of it and feeling bad talked to my that was that was the call I had this morning was with a doctor about that so that's it's getting good that's awesome I can't wait to have something more to say because it's such a stressful journey as y'all know yeah you know what I'm saying you've been through something similar so it's like you when you get finally you don't want to get too excited but anytime you get a little good news you're like I We're trending right. But I know that like I told Bunny, she, you know, she worries that time's against us. But the way my health is right now, time's only for us.

Like for the first time of my life, time's not. I spent my whole life, time was against me. Like, time's for me right now. You know what I mean? I'm buying time for the first time. Dude, you were talking about, like, death, like getting 50 and guys being obese and being over 500 pounds and not living in their 50s. Like, I'm sure maybe you guys felt the same way, but there'd be times where I'd

like think about our relationship. Like, yeah, I love the hell out of jelly. like I hope he I hope he's around to enjoy like more moments with him because you do think about like yeah this dude is massive like he could he could show up like you would never be surprised if something popped up the next day on the internet or a headline like jelly roll past away it wasn't it wasn't the way thing too it was like your habits yeah so like we yeah we would sit there be like like yo obviously love the guy no I was pouring gasoline on a flame that dude right there to the left I keep looking at him I thought that face was distressed you got to realize that I don't I didn't see that

like that's something else I want to talk to my big people about is that you don't you might you don't when you get so in it you know it because you feel it when you're fucking can't wipe your butt but you don't see it that way you know what I mean like when you start seeing it now you look back at it it's like drug addicts bubble like anytime I've been around a drug addict

that was really in that stuff I wanted to be like if you could completely sober you could see you right this moment just for one second you would be so lost and disgusted with yourself, you would change. You would stop what you were doing right now and check into a rehab. Like, I know that because I know who you were

before you looked like this. You don't know you're out here looking like this. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I didn't know I was out there looking like that. You know what I'm saying? I have no clue. Yeah. And trying to have that conversation

with somebody who was on drugs at that time. You couldn't. Listen, I wasn't. It's the best feeling. And that's the best thing. I want to say it's the best thing in the world. But it's a feeling you're like, there's no issues right in this very moment.

And there's shame in it too. So it's like as soon as, you know, dude, people used to, I felt so bad, I used to watch my wife get berated online where people would be like, if you really loved him, you wouldn't let him be this fat. You know what I mean? And she's like, do y'all understand that my husband is a fucking poor street kid that's a little honorary? You know what I'm saying? Like, he's already a little fucking anti-establishment anyways and he's already in his shame and his guilt. Like, it's hard to talk to people about what they're the most ashamed of. And that's why I'm starting the Losers Run Club was important.

me. You know what I mean? Like participating in these 5Ks and like it was important to me to lose the weight in front of everybody. Man, I don't want to make this whole podcast by my weight, but it's the coolest thing happening in my life. But it's like I remembered I would watch people be so ashamed of how big

they got celebrities and they would go hide and lose the weight and then pop back out like, knew me who this? You know what I mean? And then they could never really connect because people always like, this is weird. You know what I mean? For me it was more like, no man, I was so fed. I I have lost all of this weight and going to lose another 100 pounds.

The best part is we're still, I was so fat that I'm still fat. I was so fat. Think about that. I was so fat that I'm sitting on your bus right now, 375 pounds, and we're proud of me. It's a before and a before. It's a before. And he's giving game. And I'm giving game.

You're going to get right with this. Yeah, it's like, yo, but it's. I see it now, and I want people, I want that, because I want people to follow with me. My goal in life more than it's ever been right now is that I hope people that are challenged with severe obesity and food addiction are watching what's happening with me

because they're watching it. I know it's like, it's hard. I give you a guy that made me want to do it. You talk about things that inspire me? My buddy, I should shout them out. His name's Greg Sanford. He was a bondsman of Nashville, Tennessee. I think he's a bondsman of Williamson County now.

Oh, no, he's a real estate agent. But we're still really good friends. Greg lost 180 pounds or something a couple years ago and I watched him do it I sat beside him I was 500 something pounds

and I watched this guy and he didn't never push it on me he would invite me to hang he would invite me you know he just kind of preached to him he tried to hook me up with his nutritionist I'm like I lose it when I want that shit you're on

but I remember watching him do it and being like fuck man I have no excuse not to do this you know what I mean like I just watched the dude older than me and not as big as me, but

you know what I mean? A big dude lose a lot of weight. It was like, I hope people are seeing that you can watch my whole tour last year, me and Ernest shooting basketball. I'm 60 pounds heavier. I didn't disappear to lose the 60. I did it slowly over the weeks. Right. Your lifestyle has been so consistent.

You live a healthier lifestyle than me by far. Thank you. Yeah, no, I mean, I felt like a lazy piece of shit so many days on the road. I'd write, smoke a joint, right? Stretch, walk outside. Jelly's getting back from like a run drinking this. It'll be four in the afternoon.

I've had three meals. And I don't see jelly like, where's my banana? Yeah. Yeah. And so I admire that. And I, you know, I haven't changed my life. I live by a meal plan. I should do it.

Hey, overtime, do it when you want. My dude will be here at about, yeah, about an hour, about an hour, 15 minutes. He'll be right here to drop off a meal. I'll eat before I leave. I'm eating like a. Regimenting in like that. For sure. I mean like pro athletes.

If you had a crystal ball. But I'll still go eat sushi. That's the cool thing is that one. I didn't do neither. This is the last one to talk about is, I swear. I'm so sorry, y'all. But it's just imagine losing this much weight, never getting to talk to people about it. I didn't want to chain myself to like, I knew that baked food was just hurting me.

Like it was just not good for me. Like drugs are not good for me. I don't do good with them. I'm a worse person. You know what I mean? Besides that, I go eat. Like, I'm not weird. Everybody right now is like, hey, we should go grab sushi.

You met me for dinner? I'd go. I met Ernst for dinner. I don't have no problem. Like, I'll go out and eat a steak with you. I'm cool with all that. Like, I don't live in a, I'm not imprisoned by this no more. Either way.

I was once in prison to the weight. And then I watch people who lose the weight get in prison and not being able to do normalish things. You know what I mean? But it's like, I just don't have to eat a dessert. I don't have to eat the bread when it comes. I just, you know, like, give me a steak and a fucking potato. Yeah, you go to a steakhouse though.

When you first sit down, you're hungry and that, that bread comes out. That's the hardest part of mine. It talks so much shit to you. Ernest had a Logan's deal. Of course. That's the hardest part of my day is when the Fred comes out. When I seen Ernest with the Lerndes deal, I was like, they don't know this. We went to eat it at Logan's one time.

Those butter, uh, little, whatever those are, those little buns. The butter rolls. Oh, no, really. Anywhere there's a butter roll. It comes out like a honey butter? Yes. You know what? So, so on the other end of that spectrum, I have found myself going to Loveless a lot lately.

Loveless Cafe. If you're just, if you're watching this and you've never been to Nashville, I'd encourage you to go to Loveless Cafe. It's worth a drive. It's about 40 minutes outside of downtown Nashville. It's an old little country cooking, meat, and three. It used to be a bed and breakfast. Yeah, it was the only stop between Nashville and Memphis. True store.

And so everybody, musicians, everybody would stop there. It's a famous homemade biscuit, some chicken, stay the night. But now, I mean. The biscuits are. Biscuits come. All the different. Gets and marmal. The biscuits come out.

And the fruit comes out so fast, too. They bring it. As soon as you sit down, here. comes hot biscuits. Yeah. And you're telling me, this is self-control. Having ate one at a year. Yeah.

That's a lie. Hold on. I lied. My wife made me gluten-free biscuits and gravy for Christmas morning. Oh, that's incredible. It was fire. Yeah. Those things come out hot.

The butter melts on it effective immediately. It's a ready to go. Look at the jams, the jellies, the marmalades. I mean, they give you choices back. They'll bring you biscuits before they bring you a refill on your drink. That's the plate of biscuits you want to drink. That's a weird. That's not.

It puts you down there. That's not a stock picture they're selling. That's a picture somebody took. It dropped that plate of biscuits off and we'll get there. It's a fried chicken. Yeah, it's all good. Fried chicken and they have a sneaky hot sauce. That's really good there too.

You like love us? I like Love Us, yeah. Thank God. Did you smoke this morning too? Will looks hot. No. You're hot. No, not.

That was just... I was just still high from smoking with you at the opportunity. That was anytime I smoke with you. And it's like, you don't want to say no. But you just keep passing it. You said no to me. All right. I got too high.

I mean, JP was Jay P knows what I'm talking about We're also just sitting in the car Bro, we get out of your Jelly, we get out of your car We're having such a good talk JP goes, hey, go ahead and sign us off

We'll go right in front of the Grand Ole Opry sign And I'm thought my guys, great time we're having it And all of a sudden my body's like, you know how high you are right now? I was like, holy fuck All right, that's it. I'll see you guys later

And I'm driving home, dude. I was, I just blinked And I was back in my house Like, yo, how fuck? I don't probably do it. You know, your safest drive home. home at you're probably going 35 miles an hour

maybe man I just got home on my way home on my way home from the evening tonight also high I I ended up driving through the airport twice I got off the airport I got loose I got loose and then it's that

getting back to win a lot again it's happening I'm like damn it I'm pulling through the airport so I had to go through the departures I come around I'm like okay now I get on 40 missed my turn go straight through the departures again I do this twice. I'm like, no.

But I'll be honest, that Terminal Nashville sign throws you off on which one. Big time. You have to do it a bunch. It is tough, dude. It is tough. Great outfit the other night, Taylor. Thank you.

Appreciate that, brother. That jacket's done so much for me. Yo, the lean, though, the Matthew McConaughey. I appreciate the lean, man. I was high enough that I got home and went straight to my last time. Look at him. Yeah. That's the most poised anyone's ever been on the offer.

Yeah, that's when I introduced you, Jelly. When I introduced you, Ernest, I was so nervous before. I was sitting there. Your team. Your team gave me size 12 point font, long-ass stuff. And I'm like, oh, my God. I'm not a great reader as it is anyway. Did you hear what Taylor said or I told him to say about nominees?

Yeah, this joke went over real well with the back of the stage. Dude, I tell this joke and no one in the crowd laughs, but I hear a bunch of laughs behind me. I'm like, he goes, here we go. You say two-time CMA something, nominees. And I go, say, you know what nominee means. And he said, you know what, and you know what that means. And I was like, look back and I hear a bunch of people laughing back here. Everyone's like, yeah.

Lost three ACMs and a Grammy. Ernest. Welcome in, buddy. All right. Yeah, see you. Dude, the Grand Laughey, I thought I'd been there before. I haven't. And I walked in there and they were showing us the history of all that when people used to dress up and pretend to be like rednecks because that country music wasn't like labeled yet.

But Dolly Parton's dress when you first walk in, it was awesome to be a part of. of you all seem so relaxed i would be shitting myself we've done it a few times but dude the first time i ever did it i was a nervous wreck even stepping in the circle and sound check just like knowing the energy and the history um i still get nervous especially when i mean i get nervous every show but that one's still doubled yeah but the stage we're comfortable the original wood because we've been there enough it feels this is the cool the original wood from the rhyming yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah original grand old opery where it first started at and they brought that wood it's the most famous piece of wood

in the world besides maybe trigger the guitar. Yeah, no his art. You know what I mean as far as yeah, right? Tommy Lee. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think we have any of the arc left though. Arc's gone. No, it's a legendary spot though, man. It is, man. And they, they were like... You feel the history.

Jordan was showing me around and saying a bunch of things, kind of giving a quick tour, but the whole time I'm thinking to myself, this is insane. Yeah. How many legends have that come through? I even had like a green room, which I was like, all right. Let's fucking go. There's nothing cooler. There is no greater gift in country music than if you are asked to be a member of the grand olig.

And who was buddy that you ended up bringing out that you just, Brandon Lake. And he was his first time. That was his debut. And he had like five, six people with him, but his agent was walking around. And JP and I talked to him and how's your boy? He goes, he's locked in right now. You can tell, like, watching y'all, I was like, these seem like veterans who have been here,

who have done it, like understand. Obviously, there's a pregame jitters. But even walking past his room, he's like sitting in there. I'm like, this guy is mentally going through it right now. Dave, you're at the Grand Ole Opry, man. Also, when you come from a different thing, and I understand that because I did, that's the talk we had the night before was like, I knew what it felt like to me to grandstanding on that stage

because I came there representing an entire culture that had never been represented properly on this stage. And he came in like, he feels the same way. Like, he's blown away at how country music is receiving this Christian. record. You know what I mean? So like he's there nervous, like, talking to me a little bit like, you think they're going to like get it? I'm like, it's the grand old opera. Everybody was on their feet. What are you talking? You're going. When he was seeing his last song. Look at him. Look at that. That's a praise and worship service happened to the

grand old opera. People were up standing. I saw one lady shaking in the corner. Like, they were actually like getting after. No, it was one of the coolest. And I've got to see some really special debuts, dude. Like some really, I played there 11 times now. dude's got a voice on him too he can sing it's not fair one of the hardest guys I've ever had to sing with respectfully like I spent so much time learning that song to make sure

that whenever I came in the studio I was ready to blow along you know what I mean because I knew just how special his voice was too but more importantly dude he's a dude man I gotta get him on the bus bro he's not what I love about him is y'all know my faith and y'all also know I've been outspoken about my issues

with the church. But he is, he just loves people. Like he truly is what Jesus stands for. He's just a good dude. Like, one of my people was around him, I was doing an interview at Apple Music with Kelly and Kelly Cuss in front of him

and was like, oh, sorry, Brandon. And right then I was like, he's the only Christian, I don't feel that way around. Like, you know, you get around Christians and you say something a little crazy and you're like, oh, my bad. You can get a little tight. You know, like it's the polar opposite with him.

Like, he loves you wherever you are in your life. Like he makes like he came to my bar and sung at midnight with me this song. Like he hung out at the bar with us all night. Him and his whole crew. They wasn't weird. They didn't feel like outliers in there. They didn't separate themselves from the bar. Like they were in everybody's conversation hanging with it. Like it was really cool. Like that dude's different man. He's he is going to make the word of God digestible to so many people who have been afraid to take a bite of it. I'm so proud of Brandon Lake, man. That's awesome. Being around the cat. that you guys have been around, obviously, you guys have blown up big over the last five years.

Like, who's, who's, who's, who's an up-and-comer? Ernest has got his pulse on this more than anybody because Ernest introduced me to Jake Worthington probably three years ago. And he was like, this dude is going to be huge one day. And two, a month, six, three months ago, I'm watching TV and he's in a Hennessy commercial. Yeah. Right? He's in a full-blown Hennessy commercial.

And I was like, that's just Ernest, Ernest, Ernest always sees it early, man. Yeah. I'm pretty good at seeing it right because like even Brandon, I didn't see the brand of thing coming because I don't know about Christian music. But that dude is already selling out arenas and stadiums. I mean, he's probably the biggest Christian act in the last decade. Who's got a crowd? He's got a five without him. He does.

Yeah. Sorry, I don't want to blow his. But yeah, he's such an old soul and has such a great. He's got one of those generational voices. Like when you hear George Jones or Merle Haggard or Keith Whitley, Tracy Bird, those voices that are just going to cut for forever. That's Jake. Zach Topps's another one of those. Of course,

Zach Topp's popping off like a baby. But Zach Top's popping off right now. He's on fire right now. But he's going to be able. I was seeing him on TikTok three years ago too. Just doing low lives. Yeah. But he's this kid.

There's been a little whispering about Zach Toppe in the back of the bus. Listen, this kid's the dude. He's a great kid. He's a great singer. He's pure. He writes the way he wants to write. It sounds like authentic old 90s country.

He knows his country music history. He knows his country music history like me and Ernest do. But more important. talking about just a voice and an attitude, he's going to be here. Yeah. We're not going to hear this I Never Lie song and then be like, where did Zach Top go?

You know what I mean? Like, it's going to be the opposite. This kid's fixing to happen. We're watching this kid on the front side of a big run. And I want to remind y'all, I sat on this same bus right before the Big Morgan and Hardy and Ernest Run started. And I was like, we're watching the front side

of what is going to be a really big run. it's a tsunami that's nowhere near stopping right this is the beginning of a Zach Top run for sure hey Errin you you're saying the and he knows his history like how big is that in the community because I've also heard like when people talk how well post Malone has transitioned into the country music world I want to say I heard something similar even with post oh yeah yeah yeah yeah you said that bro you know what in the grand scheme of things

I guess it doesn't matter but it's something that matters to me and I appreciate and gravitate towards the people that does matter to and I feel like it is our responsibility to like when I talk about gospel is like put people on I like doing covers of old records to keep those songs alive Jamie Johnson said it too he's like as as country singers it is our responsibility to keep the spirit of those before us alive through songs whether it be writing in that spirit or covering those songs those songs are meant to be sung like they don't have to just belong to like Merle Haggard died. That doesn't mean his songs have to, you can't go cut his songs. The songs exist. The lifespan of a song has no cap on it. It's going to outlive all of us either way. So my second grand old opera performance I sung Wayland ever. Because it was important to me that I, one, when I did it the first time, I did it like, they'll never bring me back because you just saw I thought about everything. Then I was like, this is a one around the sun for me for sure. And when they brought me back, I was like doubling down. Let's sing some whaling. You know what I mean? Because I believe,

like he said, probably the grand scheme, it don't matter. And to the community, you know, it matters to some. Yeah. But like, like, I just love country music, though, like always have. So I just naturally, like he said, we flock towards the people that, because like, dog, you've been out with me. I turn every bar into a hockey tongue. As soon as I get into a bar, hook me up.

We're taking, hook up my phone or show me where the touch tunes is. And I'm going to put $100 in this thing and run this the gauntlet on y'all for the next two hours. It's going to be a jip, it's going to be a hockey talk, you know? and the first thing I noticed about Post was he's the same guy. Yeah. Like we now find each other after like Saturday Night Live when we did that when he did the Post Nirvana thing. It's probably, you know, dude, that was probably one of the biggest things happening in his career. Think about how big of a career he's had.

Yeah. And that night there's all these parties out there. Me and him instead ended up with Theo at a dive bar. No shit. Bumping country music all night because we just, we knew it. We like, that's the us. That's the party we want to be involved in. Yeah.

And we knew there wasn't going to be another party in New York City that was going to be playing Merrill House. staggered or Zach Topped. We'll sit on the porch at losers till four in the morning, hooked up to Bluetooth playing old Hank Williams songs. Playing old Hank records. It's really cool. But his artist, though, Chandler is, I think, got a chance to be huge. Chandler Walters.

Yeah. That's all in that Jake, Zach. That era's coming. You could just feel that. Chandler's got that Gary Stewart, Vince Gill thing going. Special man. I don't know who those two people are, but I'm with y'all. See, but it's my job to go look at mine.

Yeah. It's your job to tell me to go look at him up. Can I say something cool about the opera again? When I was 10 years old, I went to the Grand Ole Opry for the first time backstage. A girl that played for my dad, her dad was the steel guitar player. My dad was a basketball coach in high school. Her dad was a steel guitar player in the Opry band. And so he knew that I was like getting into bluegrass and I had a banjo and was into music and stuff, third grade.

And he was like, you want to come to the Opry? So he took me to the Opry. We went through that whatever, the 10th. walkway signed in catering back there i sat around while they did sound checks i stood side stage and then in between set changes like in the intermission he took me out to stand in the circle as a 10 year old and i got to look out and i was like i want to i want to be here one day and do this and it was always a lifelong like more than anything else any award anything else like i want to be a member of the grandeloptery my mom and grandparents like that that's one everybody can wrap your head

around to me that's like you made it if you're a member of the grand oloffrey yeah and like it just yeah it means the world standing in that circle the next time i stood in that circle at my grandelopri debut was almost 20 years probably to the date because it was in january which would have been basketball season but i was 30 years old and it was like wow the full circle the opry just is special to me yeah that circle's intimidating it don't get no i'd man but it's cool like uh you brought back the opera back up the coolest part to me that night was watching both of you on stage together seeing after all it was awesome for sure to see you two standing up there doing your thing like it was like I just kind of sat back from the side being like yo my boys are kind of just they said they were

gonna do something and they went and fucking down those our first time sharing the opera stage we stood in the circle together it was cool too when you were singing and then you stepped out of the circle and like invited our head that was yeah it just seemed well polished it seemed like yeah it was awesome circle because that was just some nerdy shit yeah yeah between us we I forgot people were there. They're really just in that one little space the whole time for you guys. There's room for them to do that.

A big stage. They could do whatever they want. I should have moved the mic stand even to get a better picture of it, but I was just so like the thought of me and one of my best friends standing in this circle together. And I got to do that with Struggle when he debuted.

But we didn't get to sing together. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it was like really, really, really cool. Get to sing a song we wrote together from Nashville. That was my first number one. first number one it's the song that got me invited to the grand old

opry you know what i mean like it's really cool there's a bunch of different layers you you like obviously like you went by snow at one point yeah back in high school yeah you've jumped into like the you've done like the emo music as well like i've done ever i've done all kinds of music but the one consistent thing songwriting yeah always no matter whether it be rapping making a emo song for fun country music i'm writing songs and i've i've always explored different avenues. Somewhat out of, like early on, it was out of rebellion. I didn't want to do country because, duh, you know, it's like everybody's country.

I'm from Nashville. I've always loved rap. I've always gravitated towards rap, word play, beats, the energy, like the confidence in rappers. And like, I've been able to take my ability to freestyle into the right and running. So, like, even if it's just picking up a guitar, I'm freestyle in a song. Yeah. It's just got melody and stuff in it. Yeah.

said that and then jelly that you were like you were a rapper and then at one point when you started transition into the country music you sat here and was like hey don't get a twisted i'm still a rapper yeah but it seems like you've really like both of you have found your lane in like the country rock era did you see it going this way or was just like once you saw the path was like oh that's clear mine's a little different than earnest because i didn't know i could sing so i was just doing what i thought my voice would allow for the longest you know what i mean but my love for hip hop extends way beyond rap, right? Like he says, like, our love hip-hop is deeper than just, I love rap.

Don't get me wrong, but man, I love their fashion. I love the hip-hop culture. Pop culture. I love, you know, I just love everything about it from graffiti to break dancing. Like, I was just always fascinated with these kind of, like, these elements, because they were all very rebellious. Like, even early hip-hop, like, the idea of, like, Biggie standing outside of his project building with a microphone and a DJ scratching a sample beat for him to rap over.

like it just always felt so outlawed to me, you know what I mean? But I always felt the exact same way about 1970s country music. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Different furniture, but it's all hardship stories. Ernest's same thing is that we've always been in the same house. It's just been different furniture. Yeah.

I've used that from him so many times. But it's like so, yeah, to me, I was just doing what the voice allowed for the longest time, frankly. You know what I mean? I didn't think I was singing on songs. I didn't think I was singing on songs. I thought it was more like, I didn't know the different, between a harmony or a melody.

You know what I mean? So I was like, yeah, this is more like harmonizing because I've listened to bone, thugs in harmony. So I thought anytime I did something with my voice that was little, no, no, no, no, I was harmonizing. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know. I was in my 30s.

The Ernest was playing bluegrass music in the third grade. I was shooting dice. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? It's like I didn't pick up a guitar until I was in my early 30s and didn't learn a motherfucker until I was 39. You know what I mean?

It's like, so it's been a little bit different for me, but the same thing, I think our kinship outside of just hip hop is songwriting. Because at core, I was just trying to write songs. Like in any form, like, whether I was harmonizing a hook, as I said back then, or I was rapping a hook or rapping a verse or had these kind of slow melodies. We just always writing in a notepad and shit, yeah. I would write anywhere.

I still handwrite everything. Except when I'm in a writer's room, like if it's three or four of us, because I'm not a scribe. So some more technological voice notes come in hand. Yeah, but it's like I still. even at my house right now, I'm planning the biggest thing of my career. I'm working on that project.

My nipple is mean. Right? Right. I'm working on that project. And if you go to my house right now, it's like a mad scientist. It's like handwritten notes all over my downstairs wall. I mean,

downstairs like my studio desk, my coffee table, my smoke room desk. It's just like I look like a science, look like a possessed man. It's just like I was taking a shower last night. In the middle of the shower, I don't call my wife in.

And I was like, text this to my computer right now. Because I was thinking about it in the shower. Like, I'm obsessing about it that much. So I still handwrite tons of stuff. Like, I'm still old school even in that regard. That's awesome. I'll still, like, write my wife notes. You know what I mean?

Like, yeah. I started back writing in cursive this year or two. It's a dude. It's crazy. When I realized my kid couldn't read cursive, I was like, oh, no, I got to write in cursive. It's only way to teach her. You know what I mean?

She's better at it than I thought she'd be. It's a lost art cursive. That little project you got coming up. Dog. It's going to be. It's the biggest thing of my career, y'all. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't even know where to go. Speaking of big things in my career, can I say this though? Can I shamelessly promote something on here? Go ahead. I came here with a small agenda. We all knew this. That's crazy, well. I don't know what's about to come out.

Beer Olympics. Yeah. I am the official artist in residence on American Idol this season. Let's go. It is unbelievable. Yes. Yes, thank y'all. Let's go.

I got this gig, the coolest way you can get it to. I hope they're not mad at me for telling the true story. But they invited me. They do mentors every year in Hawaii. And two different artists mentor a different group. And you mentor 12 kids. And I had been a fan of the show, so I was always tuned in and sung in a couple of the finale.

And I was there for the E.M. Tongy season. And so that's how I got the mentorship job with just being a fan. And then I did so good they called him. I know this sounds crazy, but we want to create a position where you do that the whole season. That's wild. Yeah, dude. So I think, when you look it up so I don't blow this, Bubba,

I think they, I think that's why I wanted to come right here at y'all's debut week too was because this is my debut week. I'm not on this episode, but I think American Idol starts this week, March 9th or 7th. I'm spitballing here. Don't leave me lingering too long, I'm dying. But it's coming soon.

Fucking, I don't, whatever, we're like, he don't even know when the fuck this thing's coming out. But I know the first three or four episodes, I'm not in because they whittle it down to the top 40. eight or 50, and then I come in at the top 50 and start mentoring through the whole season. That's awesome. So I'm going to mentor from 50 to whoever wins this thing. How long are we out there shooting?

I've already shot for like five or six, seven days now. We've been doing March night. Season premieres March night, ABC stream on Hulu. Dude, I am already biased because I'm so involved in this season already. There is so much fire on this season, dude. There is so much fire. There is so many just heart-wrenching stories. There's so many fun stories and happy stories,

so many great voices, never seen a wider range of talent on American Idol. I've watched every season for the last since I've been home and watched them from Ruben Stuttered forward. Like I've, but secret... The Rubin Stuttered, Clay Aiken, dude, let's go. Secret, secret pleasure was always idle. You know what I mean?

So to be a part of it, dude, is huge. I think that's perfect too, because getting on as the mentor role with like the final, what did you say, 40-something? Yeah. Like, ultimately for an artist, like everybody, everybody is good. Yeah.

And it's up to them to figure out how to kind of bring their story out. I feel like you're kind of the, you would be the perfect mentor for something like that. Wait till you see how much we're getting these kids' stories out. Like, how hard was that for you to do? Martin's short. Well, believe it or not, the, yeah, right? Damn, I've never seen it more in them. Right now.

Big Rubin dude. Y'all remember Big Rubin, dude? Oh, big room. Ray Thin' tin penny wears a Ruben stutter shirt to this day. Like, he's had it for probably 15. Dog, I would wear a Ruben Stutter shirt right now. Shout out, Ray. Look at them.

Oh, yeah, that's when they came back a couple of seasons ago. I was there that night. They came back and reunited, which I thought was crazy. Clay Higgins is good. Clay Higgins versatile. Yeah, he is. Ruben lost a ton of weight, and Clay Aiken looks the exact same. No doubt.

No doubt. How was it working with the artist, though? Like, was it tough to get, like, their stories out of them? Sometimes. Because, you know, I feel like a lot of artists, too. Like, everybody's very, like, I don't want to, I'm just saying emo, for lack of a better, for lack of a better word, but very, like, to themselves. They just want to create. They just want to write.

they just want to do music and to bring in their backstory and everything else, I'm sure it's probably hard to do. Sure, for sure, man. The coolest thing I get to experience with these kids are the difference between them and most things are they're green. Like these kids are like super, super, you know, these kids literally, most of them live more often than not hours away from a metropolis, had to drive to that metropolis for their audition.

You know what I mean? They're like closet singers more often than not. They're just great voices. and this is such a culture shock for them to like, the idea that I tried out for American Idol, I was bold enough to do it, and then I got picked and sent to Hollywood, is crazy.

You know, so like you're catching a lot of people who are just, you know, I always use the term green as a pool table, twice a square. You know what I mean? They don't know what's going on. Green is a pool table. Twice as a square.

Twice as square. Yeah. You having trouble with that one? Yes, same. Super green, super square. Got you. Got you. Got you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course. Nice. Dumbass. And just remember, we're the ones that smoked before this podcast. I saw Jelly in Hawaii and he...

I invited Will Compton. I was going to start this podcast this way, but I cut him a breather. Oh, yeah. I find out that Will Compton's in Hawaii. My wife hits somebody on my guy and she's like, Will Compton's there. And in my mind, Will Compton's on the island. Right? So I'm like, dude, tell them.

Whatever. I want to pull up on him. I got some pot. We can smoke. I know he's on vacation. He didn't bring nothing. You know what I'm saying? I was like, where is he at?

I want to go see him. I want to give him a hug. Also, let him know I'm doing a dinner tomorrow night. He should slide through. I'm here for America. I'm here with American Idol. So keep, now mind you this, I invite Will Compton to a dinner. No, no, this gets even better.

Lionel Richie's there. Carrie Underwood's there. Josh Groven's there. Luke Bryan's there. Ashanti's there You might have to cut that Ashanti too When I heard Ashanti

I was like damn I mean literally Who Ashanti is But the other ones I'm sick It's like literally Like I'm not inviting you to like I didn't

This is like It was just me Cardi dinner What did it? What's your point We're out of fucking island Oh that's a shot It could have been a dinner for two

You know what I'm saying You like her voice I've met so many men It's like they're all the same Remember that when he hit it With that Jarl rule Yeah you're not getting out of the rest of this story.

Yeah, but he could finish it. He said me out. Y'all know what happened. I just stayed you up. Hang on, to stand you up, I have to say yes. No, yeah, no, he politely declined. And I was just like, who turns down an American Idol dinner? And he blamed it on like, I don't know, parenting or something.

Something weak. We had just landed. So listen, it gets even better. I'm sorry to cut it off. But this is, yeah, you don't get to come. We don't hear your story. So it was just fucking, yeah, you stood us up. So I wake up the next morning

And the first thing I wake up and think is literally Man, fuck Will Compton I'm like fucking And that's how my guy comes to get me And we go to take off for our walk And buy the pool Play off Willie Dog Shirt off 10 a.m. sunburnt

Big white, look like he's going to play football With the big white things across the place Just he didn't want to get tan right here But everywhere else, shoulders on fire Chest on fire. He's been there eight hours He's on fire. and the baby is doing cartwheels y'all I see why wheels up energetic

Roo is doing backflips and feels like a kid's confidence man crazy last year I was like dude you're here I told him I'm here I was like I didn't think at the same fucking hotel I'm even mad or you didn't come to dinner it was at the hotel no it was not at the hotel

it was a block away from it was walking distance from the hotel got to live with the staff The rebuttal is we landed that day in the middle of the afternoon. So when we got there, we checked in the hotel. And we're walking off to go check out the sunset. And we see the American Idol stage you and put up. We're like, oh, shit, American Idol, like maybe some one-off or some side quest of American Idol out here.

Because I haven't kept up with all the American Idol stuff. I'm like, oh, that's sick. I wonder if like Ryan C. Chris and Kerry Underwood and them are out here. Sure enough, they start getting, they get introduced and start walking out. And then, like, as we're walking over to the, to the spot of the hotel for the sunset, I hear jelly roll. So I kind of like look back and see if he ends up walking out. I'm like, man, did I hear that right?

Because I don't see jelly walk out. I don't know how, I don't know how that went down. But I heard jelly roll's name. So I hit a bunny. I'm like, hey, is jelly roll in Hawaii? She's like, yes. And I'm like, let him know I'm in Hawaii too. I would love to link up with him and see him at some point.

And I get in touch with his personal assistant because he doesn't have a phone. He's like, hey, I can get you tickets into American Idol. I'm thinking we just landed jet like we just need a, we just need a check in. We're going to hit this sunset. We're going to reset. we're probably going to go bed early because we had both kids. And so I was like, no, I don't want any, I don't need any American Idol tickets. I just need to know, like, when I can see jelly.

Because if he's here, I've got to see him before we split up. I find out he's staying at the four seasons. I'm like, oh, this is perfect. He's like, we're also going to get dinner tonight if you want to go to this sushi spot at 9 p.m. I'm like, man, we're probably going to call it early tonight. But I would love to see him tomorrow if you guys have any open windows tomorrow. Here's our agenda. He's throwing me jelly rolls agenda.

He's like, we're going to go on ATVs. I'm talking to Charlotte. like, hey, I might go hit this ATV tour with Jelly Roll. But that day goes by, I just say like, oh, we're probably going to head in early. Like, I didn't know all of these people were at this dinner. Because, again, he's like, 9 p.m. I'm like, man, we're wiped. We just got done with the flight. Yeah.

But we just got hit. But we just got him, dude. I mean, you'll know one day. You got to a couple kiddos. And you're just like, all right, we just got to get set. And so the next day, I see him at the pool. I'm like, what up, Bubba? He turns around, he's about to go on a three-mile run or a two-mile run or something.

And I'm like, bro, when are you free? And so we ended up blinking up later that morning. He gasses me on the room and I'm just sitting there high as a kite, bro. And then his chef just comes over and gives him this plant of food. And then we have to depart. And I'm just left alone with a bakery downstairs. I can't get into that. Just like that.

Walk downstairs, you see a whisper's going all that food talking shit to me. I'm like, I got to eat something. What did you say to me? But I didn't know, I had no clue that all those people were. going to a dinner and I had no clue. Shouldn't matter. He sawed. He sawed him standing him up.

It's dinner with jelly, but he's like, you know, your assistant, and he was a stud. It was a Nick. Yeah. He's like pitching me, do you want tickets to American Idol? Hey, we got this dinner.

I'm just thinking like, I'm just trying to say hi to jelly. Like, I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to like rub elbows and get in the mix of everything he's doing. And so I didn't know it was taken, you know, I didn't stand you up. I'll let him know.

But that's how you know you're the home where we automatically offer you to get in the mix of everything. What do you want to do? You want to host? Especially when Nick is out, he's sick. Oh, when Nick hits me, you know, especially me and Nick have like a code language where I'll be like, yo, that's the. And then it's just like, this is what we're doing for the next week if you want to show up

to anything. Because that's kind of like, I have a thing I say where it's like, yo, whoever that is, tell them come to way. They're telling them all access. Like whatever we're doing, tell them pull up. Because everything's not always like that. You can't take people everywhere everywhere. You can't take everybody everywhere.

Dude, it just worked out perfect. Got the kiddos down for a nap time and all. I was in his room for probably two hours and we were just blazing talking. No, no. To come to Will's defense, though, I get it. If you fly in, you're what, seven hours different. I don't even know what the time change is. Yeah, it's probably 5.6 p.m.

5. We want to see it. We got the name with us. We're like, hey, let's get to the room. And you're like 4-5. It's like 9, 10, 11 in Nashville. Which route did you take? We went from, bro.

We took the first flight out at like 530 in the morning to go to Dallas. And then from Dallas, it was a seven-hour flight out to Hawaii. And we land there and we get there and rent the car and everything else. but it was 12 hours of travel for what it's worth, believe it or not. What is an hour and a half to Dallas? Yeah, I was like an hour, hour and a half to Dallas. And then you take the long one. Yeah, LA's not like that?

No, but L.A is more like, you know, you're going against the wind, so sometimes it'll be four and a half, five hours. You got another six. So you save like an hour and a half if you go to Dallas. Just go to L.A. or the Chicago way. Yeah, I think that's the way to do. Go to L.A. You get to the West Coast. Yep.

Get there. Yeah. Well, that's our plan to get to Australia. I'm already thinking about that next time. That's our plan. get to Australia is we're going to go to spend a few days in Hawaii and then kind of slowly skip our way down towards the thing about this on the way back we went red eye oh god brutal we went red eye on the way home our flight was like it like how did rude do dude she did solid but we were just a

shell of like you know I'm sitting there I brought a little sleep mask just see if I could fall asleep but you're just like staring at your black mask the entire flight back you don't know how much sleep you get and we're just operating I mean that was like 12 hour travel back but they did solid Rue and Scotty How does Raman travel? Great, no. I mean, he was never really a terrible traveler.

We went to the islands with him. Did y'all travel him from birth, though? We took him on his first flight when he was like four months old down to the islands. And he did good. Now he just chills. Like, he'll sit, watch his iPad,

have a snack. He doesn't really complain. Yeah. We had Moana. She'd just rewatched Moana. He's obviously fine on a private jet. Yeah, yeah. He chills.

He rolls up and down the aisle. Yeah. stewardess who's kind of frustrated but we're paying her so it's all good what a rough life dude yeah could you imagine pre pre-pred ipads with kids oh my goodness oh you can't get them color and color yeah color and color yeah color what are you being imagine that was us can you not imagine we had the dad doing it oh being a dad bro dog when they came with the thing where you

could move the two little things and then you shake it up to the edge of sketch That might as well have been an iPad That might as well have been an iPad Etchicoc. So we were to Canada and the kids at the iPads It was like seamless It was so easy

Jesus Christ That's autism right there Yeah That's a special time That's a waste spectrum That's on one of them Yeah 100%

Yeah Oh somebody redid Starry night on one Crazy I mean that person very artistic. That's what I was. Yeah. That is fucking insane.

Yeah. Van Gogh. I'd be stoked about a little house in a square box and triangle. Cut his ear off. So I didn't know who Van Gogh was. I know nothing about art.

And we were on the flight from Hawaii to New York after I left you because I had to go do the S&L 50 thing. So we had like one of those, you know, 10-hour travel days, you know, just straight travel days. So we're just sitting on a plane. cooking. Right? We're just like baking,

bacon. And I get high enough that somebody tells me this dude cuts his ear off. Yeah. For a girl. Yeah. No,

well, see, I didn't even hear that. I just heard it was just some crazy stuff. Did he mail it to her too? Mm-hmm. He cut his ear off for a girl and mailed it to her.

Is that why he went to the to the place where he drew all the stuff that ended up being the shit that really went. And he died before it popped off. Which is tough. Night over whatever it was.

Yeah, no, hold on, hold on. Almost all of them died before it popped off. Yeah, for sure. This entire That was him when he realized it all popped off. Is it a gangman?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. God, I love you, Ernest. Dude. You gotta be fucking kidding me. That's him. He can't believe it. Van Gogh.

So anyways, we got so high. And while we're on the way there, I'm getting so excited about this. We find out that the starry night painting was at the Mama. The Museum of Modern Arts in Manhattan. Okay. And it was like a block. walk away from our hotel.

So the night after Saturday night live, they opened it up for us after hours and took us and taught us about all of them. We walked to the whole mama. And you're pulling New York is crazy. Did you blow one in there? Yeah, he's got wild pulling there. We hit the rig.

We hit the rig. Yeah, we hit the rig. They had this like an immersive little deal in New Orleans one time when I was there for Van Gogh. And you put the little headset on and walked out. Yeah, it was pretty dope. But just as you get high before that? No, no, I did not.

I should have. It's way cooler high. All right. That's crazy. The thing is there's so many times when I'm at cool places and most of the time I am high but when I'm not I'm like

should have gotten high for this. Immediately. Not that I can't enjoy it without it but it's enhanced. It's like it's like turn it up just a little bit. It's like you can run in grass without cleats on but cleats definitely help and that's weed.

So weeds, wheat is the cleats for everyday life. My cleats never made me paranoid though. Sometimes I get too paranoid. Sober jelly would be like so this dude painted something and cut his ear off about a girl. Stone jelly is like,

you're telling me this dude is the most famous painter ever and he clipped his ear off for a chick. I was like, I fucking got to see this. You know what I'm saying? Like as soon as I was stone, I was like, tell me more.

Yeah. And he had a rival. I think his name was Gengen, Gagin. It spelled different. Gagistan. No, no, I was like, G-A-U-G-I-N or something like that. Fighting.

But he was like his, because his paintings are there. And they, yeah, that's it. Paul, but it's spelled, it says how you pronounce it's different. But this dude had some really dark shit. He was another one that didn't pop to.

He was more popular than Van Gogh, but it didn't pop until after he died too for real, for real. Dude, that's got to be the worst. None of them lived to see it. None of them lived to see it. Yeah. God.

Oftentimes. I think Da Vinci and Michelangelo are the only two that, like, lived to be like the heroes that we know them to be. The other ones were just like considered fucking wild lunatics, and it just popped. Yay, we may not live to see the shadow. of the tree with seeds in which we plant today. Chat GPT.

That's just chat ERN, brother. That came from the heart. Yeah, we've seen some Picasso's too. Yeah, it's just wild, man. Dude, have you ever been to Sonic Ranch? Picasso, his whole shit was outlawed, by the way. What's Sonic Ranch? Sonic Ranch is a, it's in El Paso, Texas.

Yeah, that's where I've been once, but ain't that where Co-cut El Paso? So I went out there, I went out there with Coe and me and cheese did for like three days. That place is an insane haunted vibe. On the old record or the one he's working on now? On the old record. And all the rooms are insane. But the guy that owns the property grew up on that property. His parents were murdered on that property, probably by cartel that's right on the border.

There's all kinds of shit going on there. But I think the cats are literally human spirits reincarnated there. They're all such a vibe. But there's Picasso's all over his property. He's an insane art collector. He's got Steve Ray Vaughn's guitar. That place, the energy in there is unbelievable. It's the kind of place you go lock down and record an album.

Yeah. Like when you got, if you got two months to work on an album? Yeah. It's kind of place you just go kick. Lock yourself into a place where two people are murdered by the cartel. Reincarnated cats. With reincarnated cats. I'm to do the cats.

Bro, I have two cats. I get the cats are like a different thing. But these cats, dog, we're like looking at me on some, I'm a human. was a human, this is my area, we're cool. Like, he got on my bed and would not leave. I was like, I opened the door. I was like, you have to go. And he just was kind of rolling around trying to slap at me, which you're probably just

like, oh, it's total cat behavior. But I'm like, dude, I'm like, dude, I'm going to go to dinner. I'm going to leave this door crack. You have to be gone when I get back. You're talking to the cat. I should have to be going. I get back. This is creeping me out.

Yeah. And the cat was just there looking at me like that when I got back on the, when I got back. It wasn't that cat. It was like a dark gray cat. And he was just staring at me like, you made it back. I didn't leave. And so in my mind, that's reincarnation.

That checks out. That checks out. Other cats would have just gotten up and gone. Yeah. Yeah. Two cats? You like your cats? I love how many pictures they have.

There's cats all over the property. It's all the people that have died in the vicinity. You die, you turn to a cat and stay at Sonic Ranch. Get to listen to Co-Wetzel music. Is it heaven? Is it hell? Depends on what you like. What's your favorite studio you've ever worked out of?

Mm. Castle was a good vibe. I'd say East Iris Cave is probably... The amount of time I spent in there is more than any other studio I've spent time in. But the vibe there allowed it to be the best time. The cave at East Iris. What about you? Dude, I got...

It's probably electric lady in New York City, but... There is what you pull over the meaningful point. Oh, yeah. Just listen to him. Where's the place you... Sound important. Yeah. I guess I...

Save me, son of a sinner. I just had too much history there. What was your favorite stadium you played in? I guess well, Arrowhead was. Yeah, what was your favorite stadium you played in? Yeah, what was your favorite stadium? Yeah, your favorite stadium. Because we played a couple now, too.

We have opinions. We all got a stadium under our house. Yeah, yeah. We have stadiums. Which you give my opinions now? Yeah, way they're much cooler. Yeah, way cooler. We didn't get paid nearly as much.

No. Loudest stadium I've ever played in was division playoffs, Ravens. Not loudest. Not loudest. Like coolest. Like, coolest. easiest walk from the this back of house stuff.

We got on the bus. What you mean? We just drove in kind of got to the locker rooms like right by the bus as always. Yeah. Yeah. You don't go walk through the bowels.

You don't see it. Like who had the best amenities for a locker room? Yeah. Probably Dallas. Talks the whole. Yeah, yeah. Dallas probably is.

Yeah. We ask you about something you actually know about. LA. Yeah. The guy fucking goes in. Fuck, I don't know, guys. What are you going to ask me questions?

He's like, we got off the bus and played a football You're a terrible guest. As an away team, I'd say AT&T Stadium. AT&T is the best. ATT, RAM Stadium is great, too. I'd never play in the new Raiders Stadium. His current Allegiance, dude.

So-Fi is awesome. The Raider Stadium is sick, bro. Like, you'll be at halftime and you'll come out. It's like coming out to a club. Like, Lil John was performing at halftime. He's got the lights are off. Lights are going everywhere. It is like you're at a club.

No, which is. I don't know. For this allegiance. This is Allegiance. Wow. Yeah. The Death Star. The Death Star.

That place is sick. It's so sexy. Seattle, the 12th man. With the Seahawks, that was great. That was cool. I don't know how the football team's going to be, but I think the Titans Stadium is going to be the coolest one.

It's going to be, as far as amenities go. Amenities go. Yeah. What they offer. I think they're going to have like a whole. They're going to have a club. Yeah. They're going to have a club at the top of the stadium.

I was already looking at some sweet. It's actually just a bar. It's actually just a bar. The whole time I love live music while the game's playing. You're in the stadium. Oh, that's sick. Yeah. It'll be.

Most hostile. is probably Philly. I can agree. Dude, I was at the Philly, Washington game, and dog. Going from the game to the train

and then the train was like, that's like you have to, that's like a sentence. You got sentenced to go walk with the Philadelphia Eagles crowd after a win to the train. And I've told me,

somebody's got a gun in the crowd while I'm just weaving through to, yeah, saw it on Twitter. You saw, I was in that crowd just weaving trying to get out of the traffic gunshots. I'm like, yeah. I'm out of here.

Dude, it's nuts, man. Like, I've told the story before, but my wife was wearing washing in gear and beer cans are getting thrown at her, calling her a cunt. Like, they hate you. Oh, dude, I saw it's awesome to play in because they hate you so much. They ripped a hat off of this dude walking with his kid. I'm like, they ripped a hat off through it on the ground. Yeah. I thought that

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Bo Jangles. We love you. Back to this episode. I hope they let me play this first. That's my dream. My dream is that they'll let me open to be the first concert at the new stadium. They will.

They don't name it after you. It's, man, it's, dude, it is like, it would mean so much. The jelly. I wanted to be the last show at the old. the original stadium. But now that I've got to do CMA and close it, I feel like maybe that itch got scratched a little bit.

That's going to be sick. Does that mean they said no as the last show in the stadium? No, no, no, no. I didn't even try. I didn't even try. I should start asking really. Because I can't do both. Yeah.

So it's like you've got to pick one there and that's a tough, that's a tough struggle. It's tough on the highlights of Derek Henry. It sucks so bad. That sucks. It's so rough. But that stadium is going to be insane. It is. It's going to be beautiful, man.

It's going to be so good. for the city. I just hope we can figure out a program. When do you think we'll have a Super Bowl? Probably quickly after that. Two years or years after that. I don't know how far in advance they do it. And that's my other dream. I'm going to prophesied it now. If they're going to let Morgan do it or they're going to let Garth do it.

And either one of them are going to fucking, God willing, let the local boy come out and do his verses. Just my first verse to save me just so I can say, I do the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. Like Dr. Dre did when the homies came out. Yeah, you're doing the Super Bowl. Let it be known here. Jelly Roll will play the Super Bowl halftime show. Because, I mean, who, you know, hopefully what I mean, my dream would be,

whether it's that they, when it comes to Nashville, they do a country music Super Bowl. And it's not even about an artist. Like, it cuts to Garth on one stage and he's doing friends. And then it goes to Reba and then Lainey and then me and then Morgan. And it's like, so 18 minutes. The whole landscape. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm doing a shooey with my shirt off.

Yeah. That would be the dream. I do miss the name of the Coliseum. I wish they would bring back the Coliseum. Adelphia Coliseum was the hearty. name. So is Gaylord. So that's the old Nissan behind it, right? Yeah, yeah,

it's literally right next to it. So it's literally on the bank. So the parking lot to the highway that is, that's where the new stadium is. They're dialing it in. Hopefully it's, yeah, I think it'll be unreal. It's definitely tailored around like Nashville culture, not just football. Yeah. Like they definitely have a lot

of things where people are going to want to go to the game because there's events going around the game as well. That's what Nashville runs into is there's so much to do in that city. There's so to do live music, so much talent. Yeah. And so it's like you go to, you go on vacation in Nashville,

but then you catch a game possibly. You know what they need to do is build the stadium like the BNA airport. You get off the airport and you know that you are in Nashville because they got all the local hitters. They'll have it like that there, I'm sure. I'm sure you guys haven't been in the commercial terminal in a while. It's really nice. I've been too much time in the commercial terminal.

Yeah. I was Southwest and I was seaboarding last week. I know, woe is me. But seaboarding. And it's always. the same shit. It's like, I'm gonna go back here. I got a flight too late. So I was like, okay,

I'm just gonna make B-line to the back of the plane and wait to get off. It's fine. I'll find a window seat in the back. I can deal with it. I find there's a girl sit in the aisle, empty in the middle. Perfect. I'm like one of the last ones boarding. I sit in the window seat. Window's really hot because the sun's

beaten down on it. And I'm like, okay, this is fine. And then... Are your eyes closed because you're reliving it right? I'm reliving. I'm reliving. I'm sorry. Keep closed. Don't let us to stretch. No, and I need to get out of that moment. But this dude's coming, he's like, he's not a super big dude, he's just a bigger dude, and he's wearing a big coat. And he could have picked 27 other middle seats and chose this one, dog.

And I was like, flustered when he says that. And it's like, we got this much space. We're doing great. Yeah. You're somehow taking up less space than this dude. He was like sitting like this and didn't take his coat off for a four and a half hour flight. And the sun was on my shoulder for a four and a half hour. flight and it's like he's obviously got both el both armrest and i'm like pressed against it so i've my

elbows gone numb at this point sitting right here i'm using my phone like this and it's just yeah it's a ward yeah you got alpha dog man yeah you got to fight for that elbow room early set the tone i just was a little too high to be confrontational fair you know you got slide that elbow hand right behind his yeah slowly press it up lift the elbow lift the arm thing up and like Excuse me for a second. Oh, my bad. Let's take this border away and see how close you want to get.

Yeah. I kind of, I favor that. Well, Will and I get on flights? We'll go. We'll put literally put all our shit in the middle and just talk real close for the entire,

like, until everyone's board. Yeah. And just be like. The cough. Making up stuff. A big cough. A big sneeze. Yeah.

Bums me out there getting rid of, you have to buy aisle seats or the exit row. Really? Exit row is not even all it's cracked up to be. If you are a bigger guy, low it down. For your long legs, sure. Watch yourself.

You're wider? No, it's a slimmer seat. It's the most... And it doesn't recline. You want to know a secret? And it doesn't move? You know the one that's like, has no seat in front of it? Yeah, the one Adam Bobo's always on.

Always on. Oh, you mean Bobo's seat? Yes. Yeah, I know the fucking seat. Dude. Going anywhere. Shut out. That's not even the best one, dude.

That's not the best one. It's the other side, one row in front of it. There's just as much leg room. You can put your feet out totally. I can put my feet out and you can do the recline. No, you can recline and do the little armchair off. Dude, just next time you go through there, look, it's like it's like taped out in the aisles. So it's like in the row adjacent and one in front and to the right of the Bobo.

It's all in the exit row. Yeah. The Bobo seat is actually maybe the third best seat on there. Really? Maybe, yes. What is the worst row? Southwest. Oh, first row.

I like the Air Force. No, dog. As a fat person, I've avoided it like the first row. plague. I don't get to pick my seat or the person next to me unless I had a crew in there and their seats, dude, no, sir. I'm scared here's what you need to do. When you lose all the weight, you finally lost, as a medal,

you need to go, just so you don't have to ask for the extender or nothing, sit wherever, just go on a flight. You would be the perfect person to sit by in the southwest. Trust me, dog. I do all the things. I'm 130 pounds away from doing a bit of some shit. He'd benefit on Southwest. He'd sitting there. We should fly together Southwest. You get two. I get one.

It's just us. It's like first class. My wife is a Southwest. The first row's nice. No, it's not. The first row is nice. The first one off the plane. The slimmer seats. If you're doing a shorter flight, if you're doing a short of flight.

And you can put your feet on the wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't worry about nobody in front of you. See, I got that knee. So if it's any longer than like an hour and a half, I gotta go exit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta go exit row. Otherwise, that knee gets a little too stiff.

So anyways, how's private air travel everywhere you go? Incredible. I know, he's the best. I know, because I got to hitch rides with you the whole tour. Hey. Do you have your own plane, though? Uh. Not yet.

That's an almost. He said, uh, you, did you get a plane, dog? He bought a plane. He bought a plane. He bought a plane. I need to take that shit from LA to St. Louis on Friday. I am not at liberty to say. You do just be giving out flights to you're like Oprah Winfrey with the flights.

Like, oh, hey, how you get home? Southwest, come with me. All right. Yeah, 100%. Bro, we, Jellia, at the UFC fight, we're like, hey, he's like, hey, how you fly at home? Like, oh, Southwest, like, oh, just hit you. ride with me back. I was like, oh, you'd have enough room? He's like, we'll figure it out. We get on the plane. It's him and his

nutritionist, and the plane is twice the size of this bus. Oh, yeah. The cabin is massive. Oh, yeah. You want a sandwich? Yeah. You want a sandwich? I love a sandwich. Y'all can use this. She had to go to the kitchen. She had to go to the kitchen and cook the damn thing. He had the thing hooked up, man. I was like,

damn, this is nice. It's a, man, it's been cool. It's the best. It's the best. It's a game changer. You know what happened was I was joking with Keith Urban about this. He was giving me some advice. Keith Urban's such a good mentor. Not even close. Him, Keith Urban,

Kid Rock, and Eric Church have been the most giving real advice to me. Like, literally like good, like good mentorship. And Keith said, look, man, travel day is not an off day. And I said, Keith, you think I get travel days right now? I was like, we

were, you know, like, we landed. Talking about, you know, how he was like, oh, we went to go see the sunset and rested because we flew all day. I flew the same flight landed and had to do a six-hour shoot. You know what I mean? Like, that's how tight the schedule is for me. Like, I would, I don't fly private this much because,

I don't want to, one, I shouldn't have to justify it, but I will. I don't fly private as much, because it's, yeah, it's like,

but I do it, because we don't have a choice. Like, there's no way I'm getting from Hawaii to New York and then doing a song that night in New York when I worked a night before in Hawaii without getting on a jet.

Impossible. It's crazy, my, logistically, it's impossible. Hawaii vacation, it took a shot right there. But, He's saying, well, I'm going to go see the sunset.

I'm working. Well, I'm on vacation. And he caught a stray. Sorry. You're fucking lazy. Still caught a stray. People go out and join their lives. It's changed my life, dude.

For sure. It's so much cool. We still fly commercial probably three times. Like, when we don't have to fly private, we fly commercial. But what a pain in the ass it is. Absolutely. We're private, dude. Yeah.

Once you've had it. So once you get on a private flight, you're like, I see what all the fuss is about for people trying to make money. Just the day for Nebraska and Michigan when we got to hit that. But the Taylor thing was actually one of those, we know, me and Taylor are hanging out at the fight. We're fucking, you know, it's the boy. So we're fucking, we're hanging and hanging, right.

Yeah, you should have, yeah, I know. He was a Charlie Hansom's wedding. Charlie Hansen's, yeah, dude. My chef was the plus one because Ernest couldn't come. I was like, Ernest, I got the coolest thing set up for us. I watched, I watched the fight from the wedding, saw you. I told me. I was like, bro.

I'm telling you, congrats though. I was like, between Amber, Dana and Hunter, we're going to have the best seats on Earth, dude. I was like,

we got to go. Like, trust me, this is going to be fired. We're like, we're going to go eat. We're going to go see the fight. We're going to come right back home. And Ernest is like,

fuck yeah, I'm in. And then he hit back. He's like, fuck, it's Charlie Hansom's wedding and I'm in the wedding. So the chef came.

So we're leaving. I'm looking at Taylor. I'm like, when are you going home? He's like tomorrow. I was like, What time's your flight? And he was like, if he'd have been like two, I'd have been like,

oh, maybe him and Taylor and are trying to like, you know, rassel around when I'd sleep in and go see the fucking Empire Stapel. I was going to try to wrestle no matter what. But you feel me? I'm like, I don't know. And then he's like, but he's like, yeah, it's like 8 a.m. I was like, Bubba, it's midnight. You might as well just get on the plane with me, dog.

You know what I'm saying? It was awesome. It was actually fucking chaos for me and JP because we like, we were like four blocks away our hotel. So we went and ran, got our suitcases and ran back. And then I'm like, dude, there's no way. Because you said we had to get there by 12-30 or something like that. The plane's like a bus.

You know that. It turns into a pumpkin after 12 hours. Right. Because the pilots have like these rules and regulations. So we were cutting. Dude, I thought there was no way we're going to make it. And there's, we had all of NYPD giving us a ride to the fucking airport. I want to talk about some of these escorts I've been in.

Crazy. Hey, I got to, I want to, we've never even got to hash this out because we just been in the escort and then we had to go work. That is some of the most intense. driving scenarios I've ever been in myself, found myself in we're like, yeah, in a police escort there's a cop in front of us, two cops behind us, and me and

Jelly Roll are passing a join around, somebody's ripping a dab rig in the back. Jelly Roll loves to wait until right here to stop. And I thought, but you know, the first two times I was in the car is like, oh, he doesn't give a fuck, he's just going to rear into cop. We'll get in the second SUV, the cops will have to figure it out,

we'll be on our way. I never thought we're going to jail. I was just like, oh, we're definitely going to have some sort of bang in with it. Yeah, there'll be some sort of bill after this. Eventually, I realized that, oh, he just knows how to whip. Like that's, I was like, bro, he's been whipping. He's going to be fine. He's not worried about it.

I think he probably likes it. I'm about shit in my pants. And I'm over here. It's like, there's obviously not a break on the floorboard, but I'm fucking, I'm like this while I'm still. And dude, it never, we never had any wreck. There was a close one, but it was a dumb ass who tried to just pull into the escort. It's like, but yeah, no wrecks.

got there smoothly. The cops all knew what it was because he's so good to each department. You'd take care of them. Gives them challenge coins. Probably makes a little donation. It takes care of them. Hokes it out. Yeah, and it's great. And we should have been doing this 20 years ago. I thought the same thing. I've been thinking that all the time.

I'm like, God, I wish I would have known. If I was nice to the police, they're nice to me. Yeah. Who would have thought? When I quit doing crime and I love the police coming straight from the underground. That's how I feel. It's fucking awful. Oh, no.

It's fucking nuts. That drive is crazy. Because you were a passenger that time, right? Yeah, yeah. Because the only city I won't drive in in New York, man. I trust that guy. Are you going to go to more UFC fights? Dude, I have...

So, Dana, I went to the apex. That first time when we hung out at the apex. And I'd been to seeing the Wybman-Anderson fight before, but I sat like in the nosebleeds and it was still crazy. But when we were in the apex and you could hear, you know, it's so quiet in there. You could hear flesh on flesh. Like, when that dude would hit a spinning kick, you would hear the thursday. going into the liver.

The heel. It was in, by the third round, you hear them dudes audibly, like crazy breathing. And I was like, this is nuts. So then we went to the,

we went to the other one. And that's whenever I caught the bug. I was like, I got to go to like one of the big, big ones. You know what I mean? And then when we went out to that fight, dog,

I've been wanting to go so bad. There is no greater life sporting event. No. Then if you're sitting in there, like, Jones kicked Steve pay in the liver.

Insane. That sounds shot through that arena. Like a shotgun. And then the pop, the explosion,

just you're so close to it. Also, you forget, like, John Jones not only being the greatest of all

time. I wonder how you feel about this because you're such a big man. But like, dog, I've seen John

standing right in front of me. He's big. And you're like, that dude is a scary motherfucker. dog because he's so humble and quiet and smiles in all his interviews like you know he's big and you watch him hurt people so you know he can hurt people got kind of a soft voice but it's still different

than when you're standing right from here to jp from him and you're like what in the oh he's a weapon of mass destruction okay yeah he's like taylor lewan size if taylor lewan did nothing his whole life but lift weights and fight yeah well you understand yeah it's crazy he's a he's like arguably yeah Would you have a box? No, dude. No. Did you ever get any good fights?

Yeah, when I was younger, I would get in some scraps, but I haven't. My last time I ever intentionally fought somebody was 2014, my first, like, three weeks here in Nashville. And since then, it's- Tin roof? Losers. Losers. Nice, dude. It'll happen.

But yeah, I used to be a little menace. I used to look for a way, look for a reason in any situation. Get out of your kid. That's such a hard video. But now-that-is-so disrespect. But dudes like John Jones who are like, you just, they're also nice and around, but you just know what they could do. It's like, that's got to be the best feeling in the world to be like, no one can really fuck with me if they tried. And it would take four or five guys.

We sat by each other at Power Slap. That was a vibe. Her power slap is crazy. See those cats going to full seizures? They can't defend themselves. No, you're just standing there. You're holding a padded stick behind you. And you're just gritting your team.

And they're like, nope, he flinched. Get back up there. And they're just standing there. It's like, Jesus Christ. I know. That's me and my band in the green room on a Thursday night. Dude, it is a zoo in there, too. Look at the wind.

That's so many different personalities. That's from his beard is from him turning. No, that's the Wolverine. That's the Wolverine's from Missouri. He's from Missouri. We interviewed this. PowerShep. One, we interviewed a bunch of guys, and the, the winner gets like $10,000.

This was just starting. Yeah. And we're like, hey, what are you going to do with the $10,000? I'm, oh, man, I think I'm a, my wife wants a new pair of tits, so I'll go to that. I'm like, okay, yeah, good investment. Perfect. Good investment. Good investment.

Honestly, it is. It is. It is actually. Last a long time, 20 years. Those things are good. That's it. You can spend two grand at a strip up tonight or spend 10 grand and look at a good pair of tits the rest of your line.

Yeah. This might not last forever, but this will at home. Let's fix the home life. No doubt. What did you say about your home life? The UFC, though, dude, the way they put us at, like, every time we go, I'm just like in awe about how close we are. Dog, I cannot believe.

What Hunter and Dana do for you and me? It's unbelievable. Like, it is. is just Dana is like, you know what's, it reminds me of Rogan. Like they have that similar spirit of like, when you get in that ether and you become a part of that family, it's over, your family. You're in it. It's crazy.

Like how fast everybody is just like, no, this is our guy. Like, and listen, that dude to the right of Dana does not get enough fucking credit. No, he does not. He's a savage. is the motherfucking man, dude. Hunter is one of the best dudes. He's his business,

but his spirit, dude, he came to see my show in Vegas. He came in, and hung out the whole night. Like, just one of the dudes, man. He is one of the sweetest dudes, man. Hunter, Dana, I know y'all might not see this clip,

but we want you to know on behalf of the boys and jelly roll. Thank you. Yeah. A thousand thank you's is not enough. Literally. Amber, thank you. And I love y'all from a distance.

I remember when Taylor was talking about you went to what was it McGregor Diaz right? Yeah back in like 16 yeah I just remember like I never really had a bucket list but a bucket list thing was like being at a UFC fight in Vegas and knowing these seats that they hook you up with bro and you just walk out the tunnel and they go and sit you like right there

and you're kind of just looking over like yo how in the fuck did we get you know what else was crazy? Every UFC fight I've been to I have been in the front of front rows before it gets to like the media desks where Dana and like Trump sits Yeah. And so I'm like as close as possible.

The only time I haven't was when it was like Trump just got elected and it was Tulsa Gabbard and the whole squad. And we were like, we just had one behind. Yeah. But every time I sit there, I'm like, the entire cabinet was in front of you. Yeah. There was a time to do something nasty to America. That would be it.

You know, it was crazy. I didn't realize this. That's why J.D. Vance wasn't there. Yeah. Makes sense. Because I looked all night and I was so confused. I was like, why is J.D. Vance not here.

It'd be a great time to show unity. It's like you can't have the president and the newly elected president in the same room, especially when there's been an assassination attempt on the president-elect. Right. You know what I mean? But they could not.

Because I was confused because I was confused because J.D.'s like, like, seems like the kind of dude that would go and hang out too. You know what I'm not. He doesn't seem like, no, I'm not going to switch off. Yeah. That's correct. You were exiled for a fight.

Trump's like, sorry. He was at slap boxing. Yeah. He gets as far as far as like. Speaking of slap, I love dumping. He was like us watching from a far back fuck I wish I was there. Who's that one? Dumplin?

one of the heavy weights. He just did Hawaiian. They just had their second fight. Is that the Russian cat? Yeah, catway. He's the big, he's got a big beard. He's got a beard. I've never heard him talk. I don't know if he's Russian or white trash, but it all reeks similar to me. He's not rushing anywhere. The UFC, just to finish my thought the UFC thing. It's just crazy that there's probably so many people that should be sitting in those seats. Yeah, we get to sit there. Yeah, so many people. You look to you right. That one time we were there and it's like Mark Wahlberg's to a right. Mark Wahlberg daps me up now. He's like, hey, good to see you.

I'm thinking when we walked in the hotel and he's like, I, yeah. We walked in the hotel and he's that guy I love what you're doing yeah you're like there's no way that dude came is that dude of no but I'm I've seen the cat is after all these fights like guys get knocked out or whatever there's always this big gambling party at the fountain blue a high roller and they just they're just rolling around there swollen faces and everything yeah look I messed yeah that dude is you see why I like him doesn't that look like my guy that's the what that's the most of bear that looks like a roman sculpture yeah that looks like the dude I'd be a fan of you know what I'm saying go double and go Michael Angelo

Those cats are different, man. Different. It's blowing up. But yeah, dude, UFC's awesome. No, UFC's the best, man. I'll go to the biceps. Are those fake biceps? I mean,

I saw a glimpse. It seems like it's an obvious, yes. I'm going to talk about this. Synthal muscle man. Oh, my God. Nothing. Nothing. Like hitting him with a beach ball.

Yeah, that's dumpling too. He knew. He's about to kill this. little neck. That is hilarious. Look at this motherfucker. Oh my goodness. True classic t-shirt.

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Yeah. Shout out Roe. Shout out. So this shit works. It is fun. And I'm telling you what, boys. Not that I have the most problems. in the world. Maybe I'm a little quick on the trigger,

but I'm talking, you are rocked up. Thicker, longer, just keep talking. It's a game changer, is what you're saying. No, yes, it is a game changer and it's fun. You know when you throw one into under the tongue and it starts dissolving, you're just thinking yourself what's about to happen. But when it goes down, I promise you, it goes down.

Because quick on the trigger, I feel like, I can definitely sit there and be like, yeah, my poor wife. by the majority of people. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. We got to be in the majority in that one. Yeah. Unless there's a bunch of just slayers running around this town.

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Well, you're talking about this haunted place in El Paso. Bob. It should be a super nice, high-tech brand-new studio, not have the vibe. It could be an old, rinky, you know, smells like cigarette smoke and be the best vibe. Jim Henson and L.A. love that place. So much history there. Sometimes history, too. Like, you know what else I love about studios?

Even when they're, like, old. Like, I love that when you go into older studios and have that old original wood, they put. put it in there. Keep that. It's got that, like, never lose that feeling of that old studio would, man. It's, Jim Henson, though, dude, it's awesome.

So you know Keith Irvin bought the tracking room. Dude, John Mayer just bought this. I don't know, I don't know if that's public or not. But John Mayer just saved this place from getting bombed out. Yeah, he was like, he wanted to keep it how it was, like, just the musician in him was like refused to let them corporatize it

and turn it into something or what. That's where we are the world was cut. We are the world. That's right. We are the children. That's right there. We're facing what we're facing what we're facing. Yeah.

The tracking room in Nashville, Keith Urban just bought, and it is exactly how it's been for 30, 40 years. All these massive records have been cutting there. And I'm standing in there with Keith, and he's showing me a video of him on his, he's shown me on his phone, a video of him recording some of his biggest records, standing in the place where he is on this video. And everything's exactly the same. Dude, it was like Inception. I'm watching Keith Urban watch a video of him sit right here in the same chair and like the group. green walls behind and dude i'm like oh this is a head trip right those moments and like being an abbey road going to walk through the bow and like here in the they have like a reverb chamber

it's just like an old bomb shelter basically that they've miced up it's like those where where history is soaked in taking it back to the circle of the like the wood in the in the in the rhyming auditorium lived through so much history and so many moments and so much energy, keeping that spirit, literally keeping that spirit alive through studios. I think that's important. Like it's sad when they tear down Studio A and Music Row and put a restaurant in or something. It's like,

we need to preserve these because what we're doing, the concrete base that started what we're doing is recorded in these rooms. And I'm the type of guy that would love to go in there and soak that out. Yeah, those are the rebirth. chambers. Hold on. They got one in sound. Pull up sound in poor rooms,

A room. It's my favorite room in Nashville. Yeah. It's got a, it's got a reverb chamber that you've got to crawl in. A room? Yeah.

Like in the very, very back of it. So does that room look familiar to anybody here? Yeah, it did. You all ready for this? If that camera was turned the other way, and you see where that microphone is right there and this one right there?

Imagine there was a camera in front of it. that's where I shot Save Me. Yep. Yes, it is. That's where I recorded Save Me. It's where we wrote Son of a Center. It's where we wrote Son of a Center. That's where I wrote Save Me.

So of all the places you guys have been, what's number one? If you had to pick one, that was like this is. To work out of or been in? Got to go to videos. To work out of. Oh, there it is. Yeah, see? Yeah.

Same room. That room is my favorite room, man. That's the one where you got to crawl into the, into the reverb chamber if you want to get the big echoy stuff. Like, it's like probably the size of that door right there. But it's, So you got to kind of step up on something and crawl through it. I want to go work in fame and muscle shoals where a bunch of all the guys.

I have a dream to record an album at muscle shows, but to just like do it old school and pull up the bus and camp out for like two months. It's my dream. Yeah. We should go together. Wait a minute. Should that be our album? Yes.

Muscle shows. Yeah. And we film it all? It's not like everything you don't. Everything you do is film. I feel like we're in a think tank with them right now. Yeah, I kind of love it. Yeah.

It's just such a different world that we're even, we have no idea. Yeah, we should go to muscle shoulders and do that, though. I love to you. Or Abby Road. Yeah. What's it like when you feel like you've made something and it's going to be a banger and it's just not? Or it doesn't even make the album. It's kind of maybe a little shot to the ego that everybody's not buying in the same.

It depends on how you feel about it, though. It depends. Like, it's not always for it. It depends on what your expectation was of it. Well, have you ever had any of that's highly expectation with just you yourself? No, no, no. Early in your career and then you sometimes realize that the stuff you love is not. the stuff that is loved.

Yeah. So, like, very seldom has my favorite song on the album been everybody's favorite song on the album. So once you go through that a couple of times, you're like, oh, and then it makes it really cool because you know what that does? You still have some selfishness in your songwriting, which is important, I think. Like, I know that I'm writing for a group of people. I know that I'm trying to speak on behalf of us and I'm trying to tell our story to critical mass and pop culture. But then sometimes I like that I still am selfish enough to just write a song for me. You know what I mean?

think it's important as a song right on over i mean i mean i've ever even talked about this no i mean you're speaking like you know what i mean like every now and i need to write there are songs that i have that i've wrote that were literally for me like i needed to exercise something in that song and maybe i shared a little too much or maybe i said a name even but it's like i needed to get it out of me personally yeah that it's like i need it you know sometimes so yeah it's a lot i'm okay with it now will if i know that it's for me like i just accept like i like this song so if it doesn't go that's cool i get it but i like it you know what i'm move yeah there's like yeah there would be the first and only moment that's happened to me was early on

was i thought i was going to have somebody's next single they announced it to a room of people it's going to be the next single so that would have been like a big first radio single for me as a songwriter it ended up not being that and it was like that moment your expectations you just got to manage them and know that going in but like with in the case of morgan big song we've written a ton of big songs that aren't big songs you know you just can't pick and choose what's going to pop off. Only thing we can control, which we can't even help but do, is just write more songs. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. I will say this. I've had singles slip through that I was like, oh, damn, I wish that would have been the single. That happens all the time. Like,

similar to him, like, whenever you think you write a song and it's going to be somebody single, there comes a point where you have enough singles or enough things going on that you're like, oh, damn, I hate, I miss that. It's not like you're mad about it, but you're just like, damn. Like, post right now, I'm praying they pick losers for his next single. Me too. That's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's it's, you feel me? You know, we're both praying any picture. But it's like there's a chance they won't. It's a label thing.

We're not in charge of it. You know what I mean? But it's like, we're over here like, oh, it's showing that it should be losers. If y'all are seeing what we're saying, should be losers. Dog, I mean, that thing's streaming, dog. It's like almost 100 million on Spotify. It's like rolling. That's good.

So it's a, that's the thing, you know, like that's like, Kane, me and Kane's record haunted. I don't know what the next single on his album is. Because I'm on his album, I'm like, I'll give you one where it happened in real time. I've never told this story, but it's a cool story to tell. me and Cody Johnson, who's one of my best friends in country music, I love Cody Johnson.

That cowboy is one of the most authentic, real dudes, love you kind of dudes. I mean, he is the most Christ-like dude I met in the business. He is awesome. And we got to do a record together on his album. That's how much I love Cody Johnson. And I thought there's no way this isn't going to be his next single after the painter.

Like, as hot as he is, as hot as I am, as hot as this song is, like the meaning of it. and then his album comes out and I hear a song called Dirt Cheap. No. And I called him... Gotta just take your hat off to that one.

I called him and said, well, Bubba Won, congratulations on what's going to be an award-winning album, which it did go on to win the CMA album of the year. I said, because this album is unbelievable. I said,

but me and your dream of having a single together just died. He's like, why you say that? I was like, Dirt Cheap might be the best song I've ever heard. You know what I mean? I was like literally.

And of course, course it went on to be one of the biggest songs of his career you know what i mean it's like you know the hug you i told you so ass hug yeah it was a it was a motherfucker because cody's so humble he's like dude i'm not gonna win this thing he's backstage like mixing a cocktail or something like not a chance and i'm like bubba this is your year like you're fixing to take this thing i'm telling him that during the commercial break before they call it so as soon as they announced it i ran over to him and looked like a little kid like when he was standing to hug and his wife and i'm just standing there jumping away and as soon as he gets through hugged his wife i'm like me now hug me cody

Because I was so like, I wish me, that's what I whispered to jail. I was like, I fucking told you so, motherfucker. It's like, I told you. He's like, dude, whatever. Then he went up there in Rick Flair Woo. That's dope, man. But that stuff happens all the time behind the seats. You know what I mean?

Like right now, I hope Kane's next single is haunted. Yeah. It's obviously what I want. I'm on it. You know what I'm saying? I think it's a great song, you know what I mean? But he might have another song that's trending better or doing better, and that's just part of it too. And I want what's best for Kane to.

Like I wanted what's best for Cody. You know what I mean? And what was best for Cody at the time was Dirt Cheat. There's 500 big songs getting written today. And probably only two or three of them will pop off. Maybe. I mean, you got to think maybe two or three that are written this week. Yeah, we'll pop up.

Really? It'll be somebody's kind of maybe career moment for them a little bit. Or we talked about this when we were in 30A about like you pick it and choosing what type of music to keep for you. And they go, but when I was, when we're at Grindle-Ooperate, I'm reading you like 11 number ones and one for yourself. Like how, is it a level of selflessness or is a level of being like, this is not my, this is not how I want my brain to look. Not selflessness.

Self aware. Like for the first six or seven years of just, I was in the service industry of writing songs. And that was being selfless, but also hadn't really discovered exactly what I want to say and how I want to sound. So the moments that did feel like me, I kept along the way. and my real goal was stacking a catalog of songwriting credits and saying yes to rooms and getting in there and, you know, building that up as big as possible. Now, because of that success in songwriting, I have a little more freedom to focus on myself more, which is why I was locked in the studio last week. I just rented it out to write, focus on me. The same way that we ran out a studio to go in for months at a time for post, it's like, hey, instead of that, I'm going in for a week by myself for me.

for me by me. And it's like now having that freedom, I'm able to lock in on a sound. And I think this would be the first time I make an album with so much intention of time versus a collection of songs throughout a 12-month period that I'm like, okay, I have 17 or 18 or 30 songs,

whatever it is. Now it's like, okay, this is the allotted time I'm going to give myself to go in and make an album. I was saying this about Eric Church the other day, whenever I got to do the conversation with him was early in Eric's career before he dropped sinners like me, he had a song called Guys Like Me. And he just got a big cut on a Brandy record, I think, like his first number one on radio

or something with a Brandy record. And he was at that pivotal point of his career where, you know, he had to figure out what Eric Church was singing as opposed to what he was going to give to other people. And the cool thing was when I asked him that, I thought he was going to be like, oh, would what, you know, yeah, I knew what was for me and I knew what was for them. He was like, no, I kind of got put into the artist thing because people wouldn't cut songs that sounded so uniquely me that, you know what I mean, that they just couldn't cut them anyway, so they sounded so uniquely him.

What I think makes Ernest one of the greatest songwriters of our generation and artist is that he knows the difference between what he should be the vessel for and what he shouldn't be the vessel for. You know what I mean? Like, and is willing as an artist to pass up. hits because he don't feel like he's the right vessel for him. That's what makes Ernest special to me is to be sitting on a grenade, knowing it's a grenade, but knowing it's not the grenade you're supposed to throw.

That is such a hard decision to make in life. You know what I mean? But that also comes with knowing who you are as an artist. You know what I mean? That's why you can't pitch jelly roll a song. One, it's not because I'm that egotistical as a songwriter, which I am a little bit because I write songs. But it's that I know who I am as an artist.

You can't manufacture that in a room without me. You know what I mean? That's hard. Like, I'm that specifically me. I'm that particular about what I'm willing to sing, me personally. And I've had to pass hits. I've had hits in a room that I wrote on or hits that I wasn't in a room, but my boy was in the room was like, yo, you need to hear this song.

That went on to be a hit for somebody else. That I had to be like, man, I love it, Bubba, but I'm not the vessel for that song. You know what I mean? Like, it's crazy, you know what I mean? And then other songs come along that you're like, you talk your way into getting on because you know you're supposed to be a part of the vessel. That's the juxt position, right?

Like, when I hear hard fought, hallelujah, I'm like, yo, I need to be on this song. You know what I mean? Like, this song has got so much me in it. I relate to it in such a compassionate and deep way that I want to be a part of the record. And losers. Yeah, losers.

Another one, for sure, where I didn't write losers at all. But Ernest is like... When we were in that room, It was like the only person that could hop on this with posts. For sure. You know what I mean? So it's not an ego thing. It's just to know who you are as an artist thing.

And I think that's what makes earnest special. And what makes earnest special outside of that is being in a room, writing on a post Malone album and going, hey, man, we can't cut this without jelly roll. I can't not hear jelly roll on this song. I've been hearing it. I heard his voice in my head. This is a jelly roll kind of song.

Like, that's awesome. You know what I mean? That's also the test of his ear and the test of my artistry of like, when you can stand as an artist for so long as what you do specifically that sometimes people can't get around working on that with you. I don't know if anybody liked this part of the podcast

because this is real how the sausages make. Yeah, that shit's dope. Because especially, I mean, just listening from my vantage point, I enjoy listening to music, but to hear things that you're saying about being the vessel, not being the vessel, when you think, well, why was you just cut all the ones that you know are going to be hits?

But then it seems like you lose the identity of who you really are. And you're talking about locking yourself in a room being like, I found my sound and I'm thinking to myself what the fuck what does that even mean? Yeah yeah yeah

you know because I I'm so like green whatever the pool term it is but I don't even fucking it's hard for me to even compute because it's not the world I've lived in at all you got a key chain full of keys you're standing out of door

and finally one works yeah so how do you okay so if not if not what are the keys is it like you on a guitar is you on a piano is you just humming in your head no the keys would be

different directions to go with music like obviously I've played you every time of music I've ever made. The one that I present the most to the world and the one that I want to stand on and be 40 and 50 years old if I have to go sing at the opera is country music. Yeah. But you're talking about the album, you're writing.

But so the sound being, I've found that sound in the last two albums. I got you. Ernest loves old traditional. Yeah. No, yeah. It's awesome. So that would be in flower shops was that moment for me. I was like, okay, I love this.

This is a key on my key chain. If this is what's going to open the door. I got that. Save me is what was mine. But the flip side of that is a lot of artists don't know who they are. I guess that's why I'm talking about this. There's so many artists that have five hits or three hits. And you look and they all sound completely different.

They have no. He's just searching for a hit because he don't know who he is. You know what I mean? That's kind of like, you know, like if you don't actually, and that's what I'm preaching to the kids on American Idol. At some point in this process, I want you to find out that, this is what, who you are as an artist.

That's why I want you to tell your story because I think it's going to come from who you are as a human more often than not. You know what I mean? And there's the other kind. There are the ones that lab shopped that who they are as a human and who they are as artists are two different people

and it's theater. That's cool too. You know what I mean if you figure that out. But a lot of artists don't know who they are so they'll have a couple of hits. I'll name them off camera. And you'll be like, oh, that makes sense. I did hear that song,

but I wonder why I never heard from that dude again. You know what I mean? It's like because he had no true identity. where guys like Luke Morgan, like we know what a Luke song sounds like. When you hear a Luke Combe song, you know it's a Luke Combe song before Luke Combe starts singing.

When you hear a Morgan song, you know it's a Morgan song before Morgan starts singing. You know what I mean? Like, this is just what we know. I feel that. I do love the Time Capsule, as country music, you'd be ripping theirs.

That stuff is top notch. It's like you're going back in time. The emo stuff. I love that he did it. The emo stuff rips, too. Like, don't get me wrong. It's getting popular now, but I love that he did it before it's popular.

I love that Ernest was just like, yo man, he was in the middle of writing the biggest album in the world and was like, but on the side of this, I'm going to make some real honky tonk Roberts Western World music. You know what I'm saying? It's like, and I'm going to put that out as me for fucking fun, which is why I think Hardy's great.

Hardy could write a hit for anybody in this town, including himself. Hardy wants to make Hardy music. If it's a hit, cool, if it's not a hit, cool, Hardy wants to make Hardy music. And he's going to end up doing two nights at Madison Square Garden was. Yeah, for sure.

It sounds like you have to be afforded that availability though to be able to make hits for yourself or if you have to make hits if you have the talent make music for yourself it's a hit somebody else or just make music for yourself that's the ultimate i've won the battle it's like i can write for me and whatever i want if it's a hit great if not whatever yeah yeah it's uh it's a yeah it's a yeah it's a yeah it's a you got to sit out and wait your turn and work extremely hard during the time patience i loved it on the screen jellie's food is here yo i love y'all i told you i had a hard out one minute ago yeah Let's wrap it up, boys.

The double-digit testosterone. Super crazy, but I really do. Double-digit testosterone. Oh, you're going back to it. I'm just thinking the foods here. I'm just thinking of his health journey. I'm sure Bunny's been enjoying the higher testosterone. We're talking about it on the way here.

Bunny has probably benefited the most from my life change. You'd be surprised. Celebration for sex. For the first time and a long time, this thing doesn't smell. old sour. Holy shit. And we'll not be right-sack. My wife's been poised.

My wife's been putting goggles and a snorkelor on to go down there. It's fucking I changed for. I know you got to go. Thank you. Thank you for being a part of the first episode. Fendul. Fendule sports. Shout up.

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