Bussin' With The Boys - Joe Staley

Episode Date: May 4, 2020

Recorded: April 29, 2020 Fresh off his retirement announcement, 49er LEGEND, Joe Staley, joins The Boys for a banger of a pod. Topics include NFL Draft reactions, some hilarious jersey swap stories, and Joe's thoughts on Alex Smith and the new "Project 11" doc. They finish up by listing off some of their favorite teammates and coaches, Taylor and Joe share a nice O-lineman moment, Will asks Joe about his podcasting ambitions, and much more. This is one of the more jam-packed episodes we've ever done, so crack a cold one #fortheboys and enjoy. Want to be featured in an episode? Share your questions, feedback, and whatever else using #ForTheBoys / #DontGiva and TAG US @bussinwtb on all platforms. Have a song submission for Pickin' With The Boys? Send an acoustic original to [e-mail] and we might throw it on our platform. ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/ Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com LISTEN iTunes: http://bit.ly/BWTB_Apple Spotify: http://bit.ly/BWTB_SpotifyFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah. Sad. You know that? And the other thing has been in Tupperware stuffed in the closet. Look at that. It doesn't look wrinkly. I got to make sure I get it. So there you go.

There you go. Right there. Over my shoulder. Always watching. Always watching. Judging, looking. Look at a baby. Look at the baby.

Look at the baby. Nice. Already started off with an old school reference. Let me put my blue blockers on to save my eyes. We're living. What a good. What a get-up you got going right now. I got the, what do you get your mask on, obviously, for the reasons?

Dude, just in case. Somebody comes to my house right now? Never know. I'm ready to go. Got to open the package. You never know. You need to rob somebody? Boom.

Right there. Life's easy, man. Life's easy out here in Nashville, Tennessee, bro. You're at Incinitas right now? Yeah. I'll be in Encinitas for a long time. So what's the deal? So, okay, anyone who's joining us right now, by the way, you're on.

This is it. We kind of just, we're doing it. We're on the podcast. now. Congratulations. This must be six Pro Bowls, Hall of Fame career. This has got to be top five for you. Yeah, this is probably, I mean, I've actually been wanting to be on the show since you started it, but I've never got the invite, so a little bit thrown for a loop there. I thought maybe, you know, Joe, you've known about the show for a minute? You know, we never actually hung out either. We were supposed to hang out all offseason last year, probably talked.

It plans like nine different times and it just never felt kept on falling through. Listen, I did a podcast yesterday with Chase Rice and I, me and Will, had to go in on him for big-timing us. Oh, don't even start. Don't even start. And he took it on the chin. And he took it on the chin. Did I big-time you? No.

Yes. Because you're here. You're here in the office linemen world. I'm somewhere guys. You see whose jersey is hanging up right here in the center. You put that up just now.

No, no. This has been, this is my office right here. And this is, you just have an office of helmets and pro quo stuff and then my jersey hanging over right in the middle.

Yep. He's proud of you. He's proud of you. It's just crazy out here. Let me, okay. I do, if I do say so, like if I played, if I was a rookie,

again, I would definitely have chosen 77. That's the best lineman number, I think. It really is. I appreciate you saying that. You know, because you don't think about it, too, because, like, you have a lot of surface area that's being covered, that you need to be covered by the number. And 7-4 is kind of, like, spread out.

And so it was always, like, weird on my stomach, and it looked weird. And 77 is kind of nice linear lines on the offensive line's stomach, kind of, you know. It's sharp and simple. It's like the Nike symbol, honestly. Exactly. It's just exactly what it is.

Always promoting. You're a marketer's dream. I tell you what, dude, I'm sponsored by very few things, but I'll sell my fucking soul for those things. Yeah. And you wouldn't, you wouldn't guess it either. I mean, you do look like a guy that is promoting everything at all times. Do I actually look like that?

So things are taking a time. Hey, that was tougher in the hearing. All right. I was in a rant. I had something going. I had to say this. Yes. Did we try to hang out several times last off season? Yes. Did it fall through every single time? Yes. Was it my fault every single time? Yes, it was. I'm keeping my head above water. I got a young kid. I'm just trying to figure out life. I'm not established like you. I don't got that. I can make all the excuses in the world. I fucked up. Look at me in the eyes.

Take those things off real quick. Let me see. Get closer. Get closer, Taylor. Get closer to the camera. Ah, fuck. Okay. I accept it. I accept the apology. Yes. So that's, it's important. It's important. Listen, if I let Will down, whatever. You know what I'm saying? If I let you down.

I don't know what you're saying. That's your guy right there. I'll tell you what Taylor Taylor's not that loyal Taylor's not that loyal Don't you fucking dare Hey what say when we get done like privately Hey man you know you know you know you know I didn't But publicly he'll just shame the shit out of me dude But hey man you know like you know you can take jokes you're good at taking jokes Dude I'm not what I say well that's not what I say

I'm actually the same exact way though Like will I would shit on my goodcheet the most Will has a sexual fetish He needs people to verbally assault him. This is it. Like, these are my words. That's not what I want. That's not what I fucking want, dude.

Hey, Will, you're a piece of shit. Hey, Will, go fuck yourself. Like, this is all, I don't want to do this. I have to do this for him. You're being a good friend. I'm being a good friend. If anything, I'm the most loyal friend person in Will's life to date, including his fiance, including his parents.

Yeah. Ooh, that's a strong claim right there. dude see i had i had both of you guys talking i'm gonna need i'm gonna need i'm gonna go ahead joe what did you say no i was saying that you're that entrenched and you're that loyal of a friend that you know those deep dark secrets about him and so that's how deep you goes with you guys right i said i just know i know that he needs that verbal assault some people need it that's that fires people up this he gets people going in the morning and if i if i have to wake up every morning and do it to will i will it's a phenomenal pod so far It's a phenomenal pot so far.

It came out of the gate's hot. It came out of the gate's hot. Just talking shit, just spitballing, not having anything. That's the bust, though, bro. That's busting with the boys, man. That's just what we do, dude. I'll tell you, you look like you lost some pounds already. Yeah, I'm like 260.

Oh, that dude, yeah. I'm, like, super proud, too, because I'm, like, that guy that weird guy, like, just discovered that I'm a vegan and I'm telling every single person about it in the whole world. So I'm like, anybody that asks like, hey, what are you doing? I'm like, dude, I'm working out, pelotoning, I'm losing weight. Like, you want to see a picture? Look at this. I tell you who set the bar, though, is fucking Joe Thomas.

Hey, he ripped out. That dude is ripped. He's the reason why I'm like trying. I'm like, always, I'm always just one step behind in my whole entire career. That's son of a bitch, dude. That's son of a bitch. If it wasn't for Joe Thomas, my career accolades would have looked. so different.

Yeah, but you think about it, he played for the Browns, and I don't think he had a winning season. Yeah, I did have more team success, but individual accolades, Joe Thomas set the bar very high in that regard. So when you retire, now that you've retired, like, you don't have to be like the team, like, I don't know if you know who Bo Schembeckler is, but at Michigan, it's always the team, the team, the team. That was his big saying. I'm from Michigan.

Of course I know. Yeah, I know, but you went to central Michigan. So I'm just making your- was it good enough? No, hey, hey. Listen, you're a six-time pro ball, but if you doubled mine... I became good enough,

but at the time, I was the shits coming out of high school. So you know both Shemith and the team and team. It's like, when you retire, now is it like, well, you know, yeah, team success is cool, but like, what about all my accolades?

Are you, like, kind of wish you did a little more individual stuff? No, no. You know, because I think you play football, obviously it's nice to be recognized for like all the hard work and like what you're doing individually. But especially as alignment, it's like you're just kind of entrained and my mentality was never like, I'm going to do what I can and make sure everybody notices me because that kind of mentality, I just, once I got in the NFL and we had started having like successful seasons,

I want nothing more to them to keep that train rolling because that feeling of like the locker room feel like going through a season. and playing in playoff games, you know, playing for games that actually matter. It can't replicate that with anything. So, you know, I'm most proud of, like, you know, being in the playoffs, winning playoff games every time we were there, you know, getting to the Super Bowl twice. I mean, those are experiences that I'll have for the rest of my life. And, you know, obviously, I wouldn't want to win, but, you know, this wasn't in the cards

for me personally. But, you know, the individual accolades are whatever. You know, I was the one thing that I was kind of proud of was the ultimate. decade team just because that was more like a career. Yeah, that's fucking sick, dude. That's awesome. It was so sick. Just like a career, that was like a career, you know, achievement, kind of like just people appreciating what I've done for my whole career. But as far as, like, individual seasons, no. It was cool. It's cool going to like the Pro Bowl and stuff just because I get to, you know, it's how I got introduced to you, meet a lot of different kind of cool people,

stay in touch and just kind of meet different people because I'm not, man, I play for one team my whole career. So I wasn't like making friends all across the league from, you know, getting to see different people and meet different people from different backgrounds, all that stuff. So it was a cool opportunity to kind of go down there and, you know, meet some of these guys that you watch on TV that you think are amazing. Yeah, I feel like, you being, uh, you being on like one team your whole career, like, I feel like everybody wants that. Everybody wants to play for the same team. Yeah, you're on that course. Was that? That you're on that course. Yeah, man, you never know. I might get cut tomorrow.

You never know what's going to happen. I might say one dumb thing on this podcast. It's all going to be over for me. I'll be knocking the door of San Francisco. I think they've accepted it. And I think your head coach welcomes it as well. Speaking of your head coach, how about him having the guy that was shit in the corner at the...

Dude. I sent that to him. He said it wasn't. It was Tyler, his son. Yeah. Oh, that was his son. Did he know? he goes it's Tyler he's not shitting he's sitting on a bar stool all I did was send him the

picture but oh it's Tyler he's sitting on the bar stool and in my head I'm like I feel it's a little weird that you were already ready for that answer the minute I said to you like you like he was on defense mode right away well I think everybody was probably hitting him up because I hit him up too like yo is he he's like no it's Tyler he's just taking a shit or he's not taking a shit he'd sit on a stool hey but have you seen him on barstool a few guys with us. The do is drafting. The draft was going on. It was happening. And he was playing Barstool feud with us, Family Feud Edition, the Barstall World, and playing with us while the draft is happening. So, Ray is definitely like about the boys, dude. He's about, he's about this stuff.

It's so funny, too, because if you, anytime I talk to him, I swear to God, the guy hates me. And then he goes and does, he comes on our podcast. He does Barstall feud. But when I'm in, I was in OTA meetings today, and, like, sure enough, he pops on the Zoom meeting because we're doing Zooms. And he's like, take your hood off. Like, he's on me. He's about it right away. Like, he gets on the boy quite a bit. But you never know, man.

John, John and Vrabel are like, John's very, like, I think a lot like the Patriots where he's like, doesn't like guys being too loud or too obnoxious. And I think John has just learned to accept my personality, my rambunctious outgoing personality and found in, like, not necessarily a need for it, but he's, I guess, appreciated it up to a point. But I think there's been a few times I've towed the line a little bit. That's your personality. That's part of it. Yeah, no doubt. But you're talking about, you're talking with the Pro Bowl and, like, meeting people.

It's like, I was telling Will about this the other day, like, how I got your jersey. And I remember because, like, dude, like, I've told you this before. I've looked up to you since I got in the NFL, like watching guys like you, Joe Thomas, Trent Williams, Tyrone Smith, like those dudes that have been like at the top of their game for a while, you watch those guys,

and you're just like, what are they up to? What are they doing? So I get there. I think it was like, what, two years ago? It was my third Pro Bowl.

It was your fifth or sixth? Yeah, my last one probably. I don't make it for the last couple of years. So it was your sixth Pro Bowl. And I remember I like, came up to you. We were talking a little bit

chatting up and I was like, man, I'd love to get one of your jerseys. And you're like, yeah, for sure. And then I left it alone for a day. I was like, all right, he's going to do it. He's going to send it over because people who don't know,

like, there's NFC locker rooms and AFC locker rooms. They're right next to each other, but like you don't really go in the other one. And we came back from practice one day. I was like, man, I got to put the ball in his court. So I went and signed my own jersey. I put it over your chair. And there it was just crossed my fingers from then on. Like, man, I hope to God I get a stately jersey.

And you deliver it. Yeah. Of course I would. I was very happy, very proud of that. I've had some really interesting exchanges over the years with people with that. Like Richie Incognito, I have one of his helmets actually right there. And I think all he wrote was like, I love you, have my babies, Richie Incognito. I got Richie signed a helmet for me.

And it literally says, I made you, you owe me everything, Richie Incognito. at least it's original I'm not that witty that come up with something like that creative on the spot or like that shocking that's it's like hey man all the best well wishes

yeah appreciate you in your career you're a style hey first time I met him he was like oh you're that undersized backer from the Redskins right yeah yeah he's like you know I'd fucking kill you right

Nebraska boys he's a yeah yeah Nebraska good. The dude is hilarious, man. That guy's a wild guy. He's a wild animal, no doubt. He needs some tranquilizers every once in a while, but he's a good dude. He means well. Oh, yeah. That's all you can ask for. He's actually very, very shocked because I heard stories about him throughout the years and meeting him for the first time.

I was very shocked at how, like, down to earth and nice. But he's like, he has a different side of him. He likes to party, he parties. It's all about having that balance, right? Like everybody likes to get down, have a couple drinks, extracurriculars, whatever you're into. Do it you want. But, you know, I think he finds a good balance. I think during the season he has a really good job of calming it down for sure.

Oh, yeah. But so you retire for four days, dude. How that, like, there was like a rumor, because I know Mike Sullivan, and you know Sully pretty well, right? Yeah. So, Soley's always been a big fan of you, and he's always preaching about how much better you are than me to me, which is always really fun. Yeah. But he was saying something to me like, you, there was a rumor going around, no question.

There's a rumor going around that you were going to like, you were thinking about retire a few years ago before your new coach came in. Is that true? And how that, why did you decide to stay if it was? Yeah. So we had just got done with two and 14 year. It was miserable. We were making a coaching change. Kind of gutted the whole entire franchise.

I knew there was going to be a huge turnaround, not even just from the coaching staff, but just roster. And I was excited about Kyle coming in because I had heard so much good things about him when he was in Atlanta. You know, they just came off with Super Bowl appearance. And so I was excited about him coming in, but I just didn't know, like, how long it was going to take. And my body at that time, I was dealing with a lot of knee stuff.

And, you know, when you're dealing with, like, chronic knee pain, it just feels like it's never going to end. You know, it's just like, oh, God, my knees hurt every single. day just getting in my position and coming out of my stance and like all this stuff like lifting you know getting drained and shit yeah it's just everything it's just uh taxing and so just like all right is this going to be a huge rebuild um you know my body's really hurt and i still want to play football but like you know i want to talk to these guys first and kind of make a decision so that was about at the extent of it and then once i met Kyle and john and they kind of like set me down um

that was a stunt me out and then we went oh and and I was like, what the fuck am I doing here? But then, man, we turn it around. Then they didn't. They're awesome, man. They're just like an unbelievable staff. And John, John has done a tremendous job, too, of, like, bringing in guys that, like, love football, you know?

So one thing to have guys that are, like, really, really talented, but he did a great job of, like, not only finding those guys, but piecing together a roster that was, like, full, dude, they're just excited about coming to work and playing the game of football and getting better. You know, they might not have, like, Rahim, a running back, like, dominated the end of the season for us. And he was a special team's dude that was just, like, really content on being a special team's ace for us. And then he would get a couple carries here and there in practice. But he was never one of those guys that, like, oh, man, I'm a running back. I didn't be getting the ball more.

It was like, hey, I'm a gunner, and I'm going to be the best gunner I can be. So he had found, He found like a lot of guys like that that just make football fun. And it was really funny too because when I first met with them, this is like exactly what they told me. They're like, we're going to bring these type of players in and it's going to be a huge turnaround. And it's going to be the guys that you, I think, are built like and that you want to be around.

And we're going to do a really good job to try to identify all those people. And then, you know, the first year is not going to go well. And then the second year, you know, hopefully we'll get a quarterback in here. and then things will kind of turn around a little bit for us. But that third year is really going to be the year we're kind of think we're going to take off. And it was like exactly what he told me three years ago.

It was like what happened for. That's pretty badass. How involved is John in like around like the team environment, not in the locker room, but just around the players or stuff? Is he around you guys a lot? Oh, yeah. He's always in. Yeah, he's always in there.

I mean, he's always in the locker room. He's in the meeting rooms. He speaks a lot to, like, like you have team meeting and stuff. And guys really, I mean, it's one thing to have the general manager in there, you know, because if he's not a player, but because it's John Lynch and he was a player at a really high level for a long time, you know, guys really respect his opinion on like, how do we approach this week and, you know, his input on, you know, different things that we have to focus on.

I mean, he's really prevalent in that locker. I mean, he does a, you know, great job. he's not just like a figurehead. I mean, he's really involved in everything. So three years down the road, you're sitting there and you're like, oh and nine, fuck my life. The next year's pretty decent. But you got Jimmy G that offseason, right?

That second year after Kyle came in. No, we got Jimmy the first year in a trade. So we went 0 and 9 and then we made a trade right at the trade deadline. And then Jimmy sat for like three or four weeks. He had to like learn the offense. and the last five games where he sat for like two weeks and then like the last five games he played

and we went we ended up going five and out at the end of the season that year. Oh yeah, the legend of the G's that's what the Jimmy train. Everyone was about it. Hey and that uh that uh what was it was a porn star too he was out he was out with that I think that was that was that off season that he had that little porn star incident

and how much shit did you guys give him? Oh, a ton. And what was funny was like he was in the moment he was like, well, yeah, like, yeah, she'd talk to me and whether you're not going to respond. So, like, he didn't, like, even think it was like a big deal. Well, yeah, it's not a big deal, but, like, you got to know that you're going to be like, it's going to get blown up. He's like, yeah, I don't know. We were in that bar for like 10 seconds. I don't know why, you know, how even someone got even got a picture. So whatever.

I wasn't even say that's like so. He was like so. He was so. He was so. He was so. about the whole thing. Like, he did not care that he was in the news and didn't care about, like, whatever. It was funny.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. That's funny, dude. Look, everyone's got to make a living

a certain way, right? Yeah. I got a friend of mine is, his dad says that, you know, if someone's going to do it, why not you?

You know what? Someone probably told her that a long time would go good for her. If you make good money, not my profession. I don't, like,

you and I've never been in the locker together, so you've never seen this piece, but it's not worth filming. It's really just, it's, uh, it's a novelty piece. It's a novelty piece. It's like a four, it's like a four-cylinder condesivic. It'll run, it'll run forever, but if you want to get some more fast,

it's not going to help you out there. As long as it doesn't need a lot of maintenance, you're all good. Oh, dude, oil change every, every like 10,000 miles, dude. This thing is, it comes and goes. It always, it's always there for me. I know that.

There's abusive words there. I love that. Yeah, it comes and goes. Yeah, there you go. but so so jimmy's there jimmy's banging paw porn stars he's crushing it guy tears his ACL now you guys are like the down in the shitter but actually ended up working out for you because you got an absolute stud in nick bosa yeah yeah was i mean everything kind of fell in place i mean jimmy doesn't get his torn ACL week three and then our kind of season turns around we're not around the position

obviously to get nick um it was funny that year i remember we had this thing after training camps done. Kyle has like everybody, all the players and people that are on the football outside after training camps over and we break. If you make the roster, then you're invited to his house and he had like a huge you know bass to kind of end training camp. And so we're at that party. After the second, his second training camp and I'm sitting there talking with Robert Sala, who's our coordinator, and he's telling me he's like, dude, there's this kid in college. He's like, we're going to add him next year.

It's just going to be unbelievable. You know, it's Nick Bosa from Ohio State. Like, you have to see this kid. He's like, unbelievable. He's going to truly transform our defense. In my mind, I'm like, he's not a fucking shot in the world. We're going to get him. That means we're going to be like the number one overall pick in the fucking draft.

Like, I hope we go fucking add this kid at our thing. Yeah, yeah. And then it transpired that we ended up getting him and we ended up having a bad year. And then he was, yeah, that dude is special. You know, I was around... Is he that good? Dude, yeah, I was around Alden when Alden was tearing up a league. A freak?

Back in, like, 2011, 12, 13. And I never thought I would see a guy that was as talented as Alden was. But Nick is... Yeah, he's every bit as good as Alden was. And that kid is really special. I actually never played against his brother, Joey. But just watching him. It's like a, he's just, yeah, that kid's going to be unbelievable.

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Oh, they're awesome. They're awesome. I had a, like no cell phone policy. Yeah. Everybody just get fucking. Just destroyed, bro. Yeah. I had, because I had Mike Shanahan.

It's set up really well. So he got it, I think, from his dad, because his dad used to do it when he was coaching with the Broncos and the Redskins and all that. And the Redskins. So he did that, his whole time coaching. And I think, you know, it's awesome. Everybody looks forward to it. We had like a gambling set up. Shanahan was walking around in a shirt like you got on.

on it was like a Hawaiian theme because there's always a theme and dudes got like there's sushi platters coming around everywhere there's cocktail plates literally everything bro it's it's like you're where am i like we just ended training camp and then there's like uh yeah like fake it was like fake money a casino set up kind of a casino set up and they have the prizes too the prizes that are like yes dude i got season tickets like sweet tickets that for the entire year so you know i'm trying to make make a living on the peace squad yeah all you Sold them boys. Yeah, yeah, hey, be careful.

Be careful on this pot. Be careful on this pot. I don't know if that's it. But I remember getting it because I was like fourth in the rankings and people were getting like overnight trips and, you know, these big things. And I'm like hoping that I could get something that I can kind of. It's funny how competitive. It's good.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Trin Williams was walking around trying to like trying to fuck everything up, dude. I was so pissed off like being a young guy. You can't do nothing. Like, yo, come on, man.

You got everything. Like, look. I'm supposed to be here. I was like, there's that guy two that ends up with like way, way more than you think

anybody should have and you're like Yeah. What did you get all the Yeah, they're like scamming the fucking people. Yeah, I mean,

I was winning. Like, you get the fuck out of you. No, you weren't. Yeah. Yeah, we don't do shit like that over here.

Yeah. I only got to do that one year but Taylor, it's that like, it was the most fun, dude. Like that's the way to do a post training camp celebration.

Did I get on Braves about that, we got to have a big selling like that. That'd be awesome. Have a big boost fest with the boys. Yeah. They did the Christmas party up there like that here. I never been to the Christmas party, though, so I don't have any room to talk. It is what it is. You said Trent Williams, how did that whole thing go down when you were talking to everybody?

Did you tell the 49ers like, hey, like, I'm going to retire. Like, you should find a replacement for me. You should go get Trent? No. So, I mean, I was kind of going through the whole. process in the off season. I knew my neck was pretty, my neck was pretty fucked up during the end of the year. And it got pretty bad in the playoffs and Super Bowl. And so I knew I was going to have to go see a bunch of doctors after the year to kind of figure out what was going on. And so once I did that,

I was in constant communication with the with the Niners and stuff while I was doing all that stuff. So they knew that I was thinking about, you know, retirement. And then I set a deadline basically for myself to make the decision by the draft. And so I told, I think they were already working on it, obviously, and they kind of had a contingency plan, but they were expecting me to kind of come back. And then I told them, like a week before the draft, you know, I made my decision, talked to everybody, told it was 100% and to move on and do what they needed to do. And then I think they already had that kind of piece to fall back on.

And then, you know, once they got to work for me, they just move forward with it and able to get that done. And I think Trent really wanted to be with Kyle again, too. So you actually, so they were waiting on you to say, yeah, for sure. They actually had that thing all in place. I'm not sure exactly what, like, their timetable was as far as, like, if they already had it in place or whatever, but I know they had probably, because they were already aware that I was, there was a possibility that I was going to be retiring that all season. So I think they were kind of doing their, you know,

diligence on everybody and their options if I did. So once I've said, yes, they just, you know, move forward with it and got the deal of them. Yeah, well, that's a hell of an option to have to have, like, you know, one Hall of Fame guy go out to another Hall of Fame guy go in. Yeah, exactly. How much is that for the 49ers, dude? And they did it on like a trade that, like, what was like a third and a fifth round pick? Yeah, third and the fifth.

I mean, Laramie went for two first, and then they got track for him for a third and a fifth. How about that contract, dude? Did that not make you want to go, like, hey, I'll go for. another round. I'll do another lap, though. Hey, I'll do another laugh. Yeah, did you know this year was... Did you know this year was going to be the last year?

No, I did not. I mean, I didn't know... Because I didn't... I just knew that, you know, I broke my leg, whatever, and then missed some games, and I came back, and, you know, I had fucking had to get finger surgery of all fucking things and missed some games. And then...

But when I was coming to... back out of my neck and my back were like starting to really like hurt a ton and I was just thinking that it was because I was out of football and I wasn't really playing. I was getting get back into it. And then it just kept on progressively getting worse. So I knew that I was probably going to have to, you know, get something done or like, you know, probably going to have an injury or whatever after the season to deal with. And then when I went and saw these doctors, though, it was like I realized how serious it was. And they were kind of like, you know, if you continue to play, you're going to really do some long-term damage.

So it was kind of a decision, basically, with a bunch of different opinions and all that stuff. Was it more of a structural thing or it was like a nerve? You don't need to go into the details of it. But like, was it like you were getting a bunch of stingers or were you like just couldn't even turn your neck? It was all of that stuff. I mean, it was a bunch of stingers.

Like when I was playing games, it got to the point where in the Super Bowl, like I'd made contact with my head with anybody. Like I'd have from the base in my neck down to my back. I'd have like this a zing and like my arms would go numb. But I know, basically it was like I had herniations at like a bunch of different levels and then really severe stenosis. And then the guy was like, you know, if you're going to have to, you know, continue to play

football, you're probably going to have to have neck fusion surgery at multiple levels. And I was like, I'm 35 and I got kids. I don't want to not be able to turn my neck for the rest of my life. So that's crazy putting that into perspective, huh? Yeah. It's got to be. It was kind of a shock because I wasn't, like you said, I was not expecting it. And so I wasn't like telling anybody like, hey, man, this is my last season or whatever.

It was just like kind of all came suddenly right away. Yeah, you can tell it was a shock to a lot of people the way Kittles video to you came out. Yeah. No, Kittle. I thought, I mean, if you just watch that video, say you have no context, you just watch. watch George Kittle's video. Like you just, maybe you just came over here from America and you watched George Kittles video. You're thinking, oh, this guy must have died. Exactly.

Hey, this is Joe. Stay with him. I was like, I, it's really nice. I just, I didn't die though. I mean, I'm still going to talk to it, man. Hey, yeah, I know. Yeah, shout out George Kittle. He came on too, but I was watching. I was like, man, it was really good words by him. It was awesome. But I'm sitting there like, yo, this kid, I mean, this is like a funeral speech, dude. Exactly. That's why I was telling my wife, too, I was like, I feel like, one of my best friends from the league, I don't know if you guys know, Daniel Kilgoy, he played for, he just got cut from Miami though, but he was with Miami. I played with him for like eight years in San Francisco. And he was, so he was down in Miami, like, packing up his house. And so he has a kid and he's a wife, and they're up in Tennessee. So he's by himself down in Miami packing up his house. And he's drinking throughout the day when this whole thing is going on. Saturday. And so he's like texting me. He's like, dude, he keeps on sending me like pictures and like a video of like when we were playing together and stuff. And he's like, man, just going through like these old times, man. It's just like, you just had a special career and it was like, you know,

real cool. And then at the end of like the day and the night, he's like, starts texting me like, man, I don't know why I'm just getting so emotional over here. I can't control it, man. And I like, and I like FaceTime him. And he seriously was sitting there in his house drunk off his ass crying. I'm like, dude, I'm not fucking dead. Like, I'm just retired. I just love you, bro. Dude, that's crazy the amount of people you affected, though. That's like people legit think you're dead now. I know. Hey, he's alive. He's alive, guys. He's alive. He's alive. He's in the power now. He's got to feel good, though. It's been four days. One longer than Jesus. You did it. I did it.

That's a nice. It's all jokes. I'll joke by the boy. That's why tell me that? It's got, that's crazy. Sorry, sorry. It's got to feel good, though, knowing you've impacted people in that way. Like, you know, I've read some things the past few days on you. And you're just known as like, you have all these accolades, six pro bowls, you've played 13 years, you've been part of this, part of that, you've done.

Everything is an individual, but you're also like the ultimate teammate. And it seems like the ultimate friend to allow. of these guys. It's got to feel good knowing that people are like paying homage. You know what I mean? It was really actually pretty overwhelming this weekend because I don't know. It's like, and I think a lot of people have like similar experiences that you just, you don't really understand or you don't aren't aware of how you're being watched and how you're affecting other people. You know, I'm not trying to, the way I act and communicate with people is not because I'm doing something and trying to like, hey, when I retire, I hope you guys remember this and say

nice things about me the way you are. So you're not really aware of like how people are perceiving you. And you just, you know, I've just always tried to treat people with respect and, you know, be a friend and a teammate for them and try to motivate, motivate them in different ways when I was playing with them. And it was really kind of overwhelming because you didn't realize, I guess I didn't realize how impactful some of my, you know, words that I would say to some people or just the way that I acted and carried myself in the building were to some people. So, you know, that was really cool. You know, definitely was meaningful for me just to, you know, kind of reminisce and go over a lot of stories. And, you know, it's a long time, man. 13 years is a,

there's a lot of people you come in contact with and meet and, you know, tell you'll have a, you guys both have a similar experience, you know, when you guys are done after a long career, it's just going to be a weird transition because realize how many people that you've been fortunate to be around. Yeah, I can't even think about that right now. It's like, I've thought to myself about like, man, what happens when you retire? Like, what are you going to do? It's like, you just think like, especially when you're in high school and you realize, like, football is what you want to do, like, you just think that shit lasts forever. You're like, oh, I'm just going to play football. then eventually I'll just die.

And that'll be it. And I could, apparently, because everybody gave me the, yeah, yeah. Hey, we got the footage. We got the speeches all prepared, dude. The eulogies everywhere. It's sad. Sad to see you go, man.

Sad to be talking to a ghost right now. I know. It's crazy to think, though, like you spend 20-something years of your life preparing for a career on average at last three and a half. You fortunately play 13. Taylor, you're going to play a shitload. I'll play 14. just yeah and then when you're done like you said you're what 30 30 35 you're 35 years old like you know

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R-H-O-B-A-C-K-com. You're welcome. 20% off, code bus. Amir Abdullah, he's a running back with the Vikings. I was talking to him the other day on like Instagram Live. And we were kind of on this topic. And like you said, you basically start over. We start over in a sense, right? But we've reached the pinnacle.

Like we've ridden this roller coaster that's just, we've had this chase to get to the top. and we've gotten there. And it's like you get done and you're trying to find like that next passion that's going to take you on that ride again because we've experienced something that, you know, very few people do. And a lot of athletes have so much trouble transitioning because it's like you just

can't. It's like chasing a high. It's like you got to refine, reignite some passion that you've studied in one area for 20 some odd years to get to the top. And then when you're done, you got to, you got to like,

I don't know, use everything you've learned and try to try to, try to find a new passion in your life that kind of gets to that level of the how you've been at before if that makes sense. Yeah, 100%. I think that's really hard to do. I think it's a lot of people that I've heard that have been retired is like have given me the advice of like don't try to chase that because it's almost impossible to like recreate that. You know, you're going to have to have like competitive outlets and stuff like that in some capacity.

But, you know, to find that unless you're going to become like a musician, you know, it's we're entertainers and basically what our sport is, it's like entertainment that we, you know, entertain the masses. We're moderating gladiators and there's not professions that are out there that you're performing for millions of people at what you do. Right. So, I mean, I think it's going to be key to find some competitive outlets and all that, but I don't have any kind of dreams of, you know, chasing that high again. You know, I lived that and it was definitely a fun ride, but I think, what I'd like to do, obviously, is like, use all that knowledge that I acquired over the years of just, you know, trying to play football at a high level and try to, like, use that knowledge and try to pay forward to, you know, guys coming out of college and, you know, do, like, some training with them.

And then I think maybe down the road, I could get to get my wife around that a little bit, but, you know, try to get into coaching. I think it'll be fun. I'd probably be, you know, I'd probably start out as, like, a grunt guy, be, you know, and then I work my way to be an assistant offensive line coach for the Titans, make Taylor's life a living hell. And then because all the positive work that I did with him can get him at a long coach job. Hey, we'll get you in that you. So that's Soie's job right now. You're trying to take Soie's job.

By that time, hopefully he's an O-line coach or at OC somewhere. Yeah, man. I mean, if you walked in the door and you're like, hey, what's up? I'm your online coach. I'm like, fuck. He did it. He fucking did it.

He said he was going to do it and he did it, dude. That shit would be crazy. I'd fly it. Buckle up. Your fucking joyrides over. Yeah. Hope you had fun, Leone. Well, shit.

I mean, if you're a couple of years out from doing that, you start as a grunt guy. I'm saying, at least got four or five years. I'll be in year 12 or 13 then. That would be perfect. That would be perfect time. I can I can guide you gently through the the twilight of your career. Did you?

Taylor, he could be a fill in. He could be a fill in too. He could be on the bus. Yeah. Honestly, because Will and I were talking about this. When you and I were texting after you're retired, like, and you were like, hey, get me on the bus. I was like, that's so crazy. He wants to be on it.

And I was like, I know you've done a lot of, like, publicity. city stuff like I see you in the Pepsi commercials you're doing TV shows and all that like why not do a podcast dude it's easy it's fun you can do a specific football one but you just talk shop and you can teach those that those younger kids before you transition to being coach oh you guys are offering me a job right now on there there's no reason that we can't bust with the boys like the boys can't be branched out in different areas you know what I mean where does it stop I mean you start at a knee and then all of a sudden you got four or five more guys, and then it's just busting with the group of boys.

Busting with the boys, though. You know what I'm saying? Maybe it's something different. Maybe it's like, I don't know, I can't think of it right now, but when Taylor was saying that, I was like, because me personally, I knew you, I knew you were a good football player, but since you were like on the West Coast and San Fran,

I actually identified you and followed you based on your YouTube videos back when I was younger. That's how I knew who you were. I thought you were a funny cat, thought you had solid jokes. You kind of did the whole YouTube channel thing. You know, you're kind of an OG. You've been around the block a while. You know what I'm saying?

And I always thought you were really humorous then. And that's how I got to know who you were just based on your locker room presence and doing like, you know, doing little skits, doing little wits. I used to, we had a guy that was doing the videos for the Niners at the time. And he asked me to do that. And they didn't cut anything. So they just like put whatever I did. And so I started kind of like pushing it.

At first it starts off and you're just kind of like, you know, you're just interviewing your teammates and you're asking them, whatever. But then they start, you know, I start throwing a little like sarcastic joke in there and they don't cut it. And then I'm like, okay, I can get away with some more here. And so then it just turned into like basically me roasting my teammates. And they used to like not cut that at all. And so I tried to bring it back.

I cut it for a little bit and stopped doing it because we were losing. And I was like, that's kind of bad shit. Yeah, there you go. That's tough. Taylor faced that this year, dude. I was that, our guy, we're 2 and 14, and we're out here joking about everything. So I kind of took it away for a while. And then I started bringing it back, and they started, you know, the times of change

and everything kind of like PC now. So they started cutting a lot of like the stuff that I would put in there because I don't know, they thought I was like being too, you know, mean to my teammates or whatever. So, you know, whatever else was going on and loved it. But I think they just didn't want to put it on the official channel. So I just stopped. Guess who doesn't cut? Guess who doesn't cut it?

We don't. We don't. Bustle with the boys, we don't. You can be one of them. Hey, Joe, watch this. Joe, watch this. Penis. That's going to be on there.

Penis, penis, penis. Vagina, vagina. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, hey, penis is fine, but vagina, I don't know, man. That's a little heavy. Hey, you heard variable talking about cutting his purple-headed pattywagger. Hey, he, man. Dude, it would be so.

easy for you to do a podcast so easy. The Joe show 2.0, like Pat McAfee's show 2.0. You guys have the best setup of any podcast that I've seen, though. That little thing that you guys have, the bus, the visual. Not a thing. It's a vehicle. The optics on that are unbelievable. Yeah.

It was, where did you find that? I don't remember whose idea it was, but it's the best idea anyone of us have ever had in our entire lives. Listen, Taylor, I don't shy away from giving you the credit that you deserve, bro. Taylor found that bus. I said no at first because I'm thinking, how do we get equipment? Because when we found it,

it was behind a garage. Like over in Nashville, like one of our buddies, shout out juice. You saw the bus. You saw the bus. And he's like, hey,

you think you guys are going to buy this. Like, you know, that could be cool. I was like, I don't want to, but I know when Taylor sees the bus, he's going to want to buy it

because that's the boy. We went out there and Taylor's like, oh, this thing fucking rips, dude. He's like, yo, we should buy this, right? I was like, ah, you know,

I kind of started, And no, I'm one of those guys. I'm like, I don't know, man. How are we going to get everything on there? Because it wasn't, like, it was a shit. It was a shithole rusted. Waspies, beehives, everything. Families of squirrels.

Right. And Taylor's like, we'll fix it up. We'll do the inside. If it doesn't work, I'll just have a fuck. I'll have a bust to myself because I'll take this thing. And I was like, all right, let's do it. And Taylor handled, Taylor handled the crew to get on there. Shout out Jeff and the boys.

They decked it out. We bought furniture and stuff for it and the juice in them at cardboard films. They got it workable for a podcast. And it is, dude. It's a fucking hit because the boy Taylor wanted to take a shot on that thing. Dude, that thing is all. It's just a diamond in the rough, dude. It's painted basically, it was painted red.

Now it's burnt orange because of all that sun damage. It's like absolutely, it's perfect. Earnhardt, Budweiser on the side with the big eight. But I tell you what, there's stickers on top. of that bus that are like as bad as racist as they get we had to cover them up we did like purple tape and like put it and like taped it all up it was so bad dude but it's been awesome like it's it's so much fun to do it's so easy you get to meet the coolest people it's it's a blast dude you you would thrive strictly um like sports or you guys just do like anybody that's interesting

anybody that's interesting we did chase rice yesterday we've had we've had Dale Earnhardt on a couple weeks ago. I mean, I mean, everybody. We do, we do anybody. We've done, we've done MMA fighters. We've done football players. We've done singers, songwriters. We have like a side thing now called Picking with the Boys that like comes out twice a week,

which hasn't come out this week. One comes out tonight. Let's go, Alex. Shat it Alex. Shat it Alex, our production Twitter guy, fucking it up. Shout it Alex? Yes, Alex. Woo!

You fucked it up. Yes. Anyway, we have like a little thing with the boys thing with senior song letters get on here. And they play original music, dude. It's a blast. It's like, it's so fun. And we got a good crew of people that helping us out, too. Even Alex, who I just shit on.

And Alex is just taking it. He's in mute right now, dude. Just cursing me out. Joe and the boys. Joe and the boys. Yeah. Joe Show 2.0. No, it's not there.

He's out, Will. He's out. They, it's recruiting is never over. Recruing season is never over. We got his number now. As soon as this thing ends. As soon as this thing ends, dude. Yeah, I think about it.

I'll think about it. I just want, I just want you to have it. If I can be comfortable in my house, I mean, I'm. Beautiful. That's the beauty of it. Yeah, but once this whole thing ends, that's going to be a little bit weird. We're going to have me like just over a loudspeaker or like floating above you on the computer screen just being like, no, no, no, no, you'll have your own thing.

You'll have your own thing. dude it'll be yours but we're just partnered so it's just like you're branding you're building it out we're building this beautiful thing with each other busting with everybody hey people helping people that's powerful stuff that's that's right that's my mantra is it okay who i like that wedding crashes it is wedding crashes okay so you have you've had it's so hard to figure out exact questions because you've played since fucking dinosaurs were alive yeah what would you say what was your hardest super bowl between, you've been in two, right? Jesus.

This last one. But you've been in two Super Bowls, right? The one against the Ravens and then this one. Yeah, the one against the Ravens and then, yeah, this last one. I don't know. Actually, they're both really tough. I mean, the first one was just so hard because we were so close. I mean, we came back.

We were down 28 to 6. Came back. You had the momentum. We had all the momentum. We had that drive at the end of the game. We had like a first and goal from seven. And we were all in the huddle like, seriously like, dude, we're about to be world champions.

We're just gonna, you know, get this ball in. And then it didn't happen. And like to be that close and lose. But then this last one was the same way. We were up 2010, seven minutes left and kind of fell apart at the end. So. Fuck. Yeah, like if you want to rather get like blown out

in those situations than, uh. Well, the lights went off in that first. one. Mm-hmm. I mean, fuck. If the Tennessee Titans beat the Kansas City Chiefs, the AC championship game. God damn, dude.

Who wins that game, the 49ers or the Titans? Who's that? We were dominating. I heard you the first time. Stop repeating yourself. You're wrong. And I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why.

Were you hoping the Titans one, Joe? I walked into that one. The Titans, we have the same. the same exact offense. Yeah. We had Nick both of them. Very dominant, I guess the run. Derek Henry

is hotter than hot, dude. Yeah. He was hotter than hot. He was like, what's his name from Zoolander? Shut down every single running back. Kay? Hey. Hey, Joe. Kay.

But we were hot, dude. And we were getting used to move in Houston West. We were hot. Ham, hands are so hot right now. East and West, dude. I don't know. I think if Nick Bosa and I went to foot race, I think I beat Nick Bosa in a foot race.

It gives a shit about foot race. Just run your ass over. Well, laterally, I got to run. So I can reach you. Hey, hang on. Let me mediate this. Let me mediate this. Joe, were you hoping the Titans beat the Chiefs

to go to the Super Bowl? Yeah. Why, Joe? Why were you hoping? I thought it was an easier path to the title. I'm scared of that. That's true to that. You're scared of that?

Mahomes was very hot. Hansel, he's so hot right now. He's so hot right now. So hot right now. God. I'll tell you what, you know who else was hot? Derek Henry. He was.

He was very hot. Ryan Tanna Hill. Tennessee Titans offensive line. Well, you guys were kind of, yeah. I mean, you guys were like the light version of us. Yeah, I guess so. You guys were like, you trying to run the ball, and you guys ran the ball, but then we had to go and, like, ran the ball like 50 times in a game.

You guys would do it. You know, it was like 35. That was cute. But then we did it like 50. It was like you guys were just trying to like, you know, be what we already were. Right. Well, you could say that or you could say that you guys needed 50 times to win. We only needed 38 times to win.

We're more diverse. Yeah. But then we won and you guys lost. Yeah, but you guys also, who'd you play? Packers. first time head coach. Shout up Matt Lafleur. Absolutely love that guy.

Yeah, how do you shit on Matt, man? I didn't shit on him. I literally just said first time head coach. You dismissed him. You went, oh, your first time head coach. No, don't do that. Don't put it to my mouth. You did.

Hey, you did. I do not want words put in my mouth. Packers have very good defensive fans. I don't want to play them in two years or one year or whenever I played them. And they pinned this up with me with the stupid bandana on. This fucking guy was talking shit. like was it May late April 2020 I would say this when we played them and we ended up like

the game plan was kind of like that week was like we're going to have to run the ball to win the game and then we went out there I didn't know we were going to have to run the ball like 50 times and then we were going to be a high school game but I was so fucking happy because how talented those guys on the edge are I was like in an NFT title game having to go against these two guys that is just going to be fucking pass rushing and no passes coming like we better be able to run the ball.

So when it kind of worked out that way, I was just like, fuck, thank God. Oh, need that. That's definitely a feeling that all of its alignment go through, like, we're running the ball this week and back, right,

and then like under our breastwork, we fucking better have to run the ball this week. You know, anytime that's the key, I've also heard it the other way, though, where it's like, we're going to run the ball this week, and then the game comes and you end up having, like eight rushes

the whole entire game. We're like, what the fuck? What are we doing out there? What are we doing? Hey, you're in the cold tub, like we're supposed to run the fucking ball game. I remember one game we had in 2011 or 12.

It was JPP's rookie year. We were playing the Giants and they had JPP. Hey, that was all 10 fingers, JPP too. Yeah, I mean, that was all 10 and grip strength and crazy move, JPP. And then we had

O.C. Junior and Yon, Yore and I probably messed up his name. And then Justin Tuck. And I remember going into the game. And that was like, they were rolling. And I was like, shit, we're going to have to, you know, we're going to have to run the ball.

Like, you can't just sit back and, like, these guys pin their ears back. And we get into the game. We get our first 15 the night before. I'm not kidding you. The first 12 plays were five or seven-step dropbacks, the first 12 plays of the game. And I was like, what the fuck?

Oh, my God. I never had a night of sleep like that night. the night before that. I was going to say, you can't sleep when that shit comes up. It's like, oh, my God, what the hell? The night before when they pop it up and they're, like, they're, like, adjusting on the, on the screen to make sure it fits. All right, here we go. Yep. All right. First play, you're looking at it's like key right, key left, 64, 65, two jet, three jet. You're just like,

fuck, dude. And they're talking about, like, double moves from the receivers. And you're just like, Jesus, Christ, you're like a six-second drop back here. Coach, like, points you out. Hey, Joe, need you to hold up here, all right? It's going to be three jet. We got sale on here. You know it's seven-step drop. You know it's going to be a big deal.

And here's like, you got it. You got it. Hey, this is why we pay you. This is why we're paying. Are we not playing Khalil Mack? Are we, uh, are we, uh, is he not going to be on the field for the first player the game? Yeah.

Imagine if you said that like, hey, Joe, we're going to have to lean on you doing this on this three jet right here. Hey, it's Kalil Mack out? Oh, no. He's not what? What would fucking do it, boys? Then what the fuck are we doing? On the, on the other flip side, though, it's amazing.

how jacked up offensive linemen get when you do that first 15, like, script. And they're all runs or like three-step drops or keepers. And it's just like one after the other. And you're like, let's go. We're going to dominate. It's like, you're going to be fucking like all the pressure is off you. All the off of the life. Yeah, big time leader now.

Yeah, you go to bed. You sleep really well. And then it's like. First play the game. First play the game is like a boot. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Nothing juices you out more than a boot.

And you like make all your balls. Make your run calls at the line of scrimmer. It's like, oh, yeah, here we go. Hey, deuce, doce, doce. Guy fucking three technique digs in a little bit. You say, hey, stupid as the ball's being snapped. Dude, that's literally like so true. Every office alignment goes through that.

I'll tell you what I love too is that three step drops in like early in the game. Because you get to feel it. How am my hands doing today? Yeah. How am my feet doing a day? And you're like, boom, boom. Punch.

You're not afraid. to punch. You're not afraid to punch. Throw your hands. They go up field. It's like whatever. But on the flip side of that, though, is like when you have a three-step drop and you're like, all right, how much hands feel and you throw them and the guy like fucking blows by you or like throws him, you're like, oh shit. You put him out there and it's like, oh shit. He's fucking ready today. And you're like, you say something to your boy like, guy's a pussy, right? And your head, you're like, fuck, dude. I'm in for a bit of a deal today. I better lock this shit up. Some guy you've never heard of, too.

Oh, it's always that. It's always that. Yeah, yeah. Because when you play the dudes that are like the fucking, the Cleo Max, the Von Miller, is you're like watching, okay, Vaughn likes to spin every third time. Like he loves speed, speed, speed to spin. Okay, Cleo Mac loves the power. Off chips.

Loves the power. You watch all that. And it's like, all right, 57. I don't know what the fuck that guy is. All right, well, go to the next guy. And then like, you get 57 the first play of the game. You're like, I'm just going to get this guy. The quick two-hand punches his chest, no biggie.

Lay those fuckers out there. and he's like chop, stab, like swim. You're like, short corner of the first round. Like, what the fuck is this guy doing, man? Yeah, I had that experience with Everton's first year. Oh, your shit. He was a backup. He was like a third round pick.

And so we played him, I think. It must have been, I don't know if it was preseason or if it was like first couple of weeks. And so he didn't have any film out there. And so I was like not watching him. And he would come in like, he was like the rotational guy. So he would come in like every third series. And so, you know, I'm studying the guys I'm going against.

And then all of a sudden, you know, Everson comes in. I'm like, all right, not that you're taking it lightly, but you're just like, okay, no, you know, starter's not in. And then he comes out and I remember feeling his bull rush for the first time. And I was like, what the fuck? And then it got to the point where you're like, thankful that he's leaving the game. I'm like, what the – I'm telling, like, the other guys in the team, like, why is he not playing?

Yeah, yeah. Like third down comes up, first down, get like two yards, second down, get like two yards, third and six, like you're peeking. Like, all right, is he coming out here? Thank God. All right, we're good. You know what I'm saying? Oh, it's so funny, man.

All the other O-Lyman things, like when you break the huddle and you got guys that are like switching sides and one's obviously better than the other. Yeah. Sides all the time. And so you're sitting on a third down and you're just like, you're kind of peeking over your shoulder and you're seeing like who you're going to get. And then like you're like a huddle and you see. like Bond go to the other side, you're like,

fuck yeah, let's go. And your head go, let's go, let's go, let's go, hey, third and 12, we got this. Come on, McGlachie, let's go. Yeah, that's the worst one. You're like, well, like, I don't know about you, but when I play, like, as much film as I watch, I'm always like, I have keys in my head, like,

all right, with this guy, I need to get at least this many sets in before I punch, like, hey, watch this, maybe flash a play or something like that. Like, I'll have, like, a key in my head, like, all right, this guy but it's the worst like you're saying like you're in the huddle and they're like they'll stand right in the middle like where the nose is and so he's like looking waiting to see where the wide goes and you're like you call the play and you get up to the line he like looks and goes over there fuck dude all right all right we're doing this that shit's fucking crazy yeah and then when the quarterback at the line of scrimmage like flips the protection where you're on the

the man side yeah dude or like yeah you get like a chip you like a chip on the right side but you get your slide into your side. You're like, all right, fuck, yeah, dude. That's all good. Everyone gets what they need to hear. And then he, like, checks it. Hey, yeah, no, check Ron, Ron. You're like, all right.

Son of a bitch. He's sitting there by yourself. What's that? Won't miss all that. Dude. When you're on, though, when you're on, your hands are good and your sets fucking tight and you're like, you get that confidence in the second quarter, there's no high like this.

that. When you're in your mind, you're like, yo, no one can really stop me right now. Yeah, go ahead and slide right. It's like in the third quarter and you're like in the huddle and you're like looking up. I'm like looking up with my wife and like dancing. I'm like, this is fucking easy. Yeah, yeah, exactly, dude. I start that way in the first quarter and sometimes it goes downhill. Yeah. It's real tough. Every single defensive lineman comes on the sideline is always like, he just won't fucking shut up. Yeah. Who said that? Like, hey, I'm like, Every D. Lyman over the years has been like, he just talks. He's talking nonstop. That's awesome. Do you talk a lot in the field?

You don't say a word? No, I'm more like subtle jabs, kind of, like sarcastic. Like, what's your best? Well, like, I will know and he will know that that was not a good rush, but I'll be like, oh, dude, that was fucking, Jesus. I don't know how I stopped that. So I kind of sick stuff like that, but I didn't really talk. I didn't really talk a whole lot. Yeah, me either.

That was a great segment of offensive line play. Yeah, appreciate you coming in. Hey, I'm sitting up, like, sitting up in my futon, like my freaking low back gets tight. So when you guys were just, I just felt like, I'm like, hey, this isn't going anywhere. I'm soon when I just fucking sat back. I'm like, oh.

Just broing out some whole line nuances. I know, right? Shit. The night before we worry about it, as backers, it's just like, are we going to check the zone if these motherfuckers go empty? That's it? Yeah, the night before, what you sweat over, it's like any type of man-to-man situations that you might possibly be in. Because as a backer, you're like, you get to play in the box.

Just hoping that it's the blocking tight end and not fucking George's. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like, when they motion out and you know safety's blitzing, you're just like, you're like asking your decororning, like, hey, you sure, you know, you sure you want me to run out there with the old buddy, with the running back out there on island or the safety can go take and I can take his blitz. Damn. And last but not least, dude, my favorite ad read, I can't be biased because I love them all, but I have a little bias toward the manscaping boys.

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Actually, let me rephrase that. Let me stop that. Where's McGlensy at in that list? McGlinchy's up there. He knows that he's not the top, which kills him. Yeah, no question. But it's hard to, you play so many years with certain players. And, you know, a guy like Frank Gore meant so much to me in my career because of like

when I came in as a rookie, he was going in the year three. He just came off with 1,600 yards rushing. He, just an unbelievable dude. But then I saw, like, the way that he worked and, like, the example that he set for the team. And, like, he's the same exact person that he was as rookie year as he is in year 15. Just the work ethic that he had. Just watching him from a distance, you know, kind of just the way that he approached the game. He had a huge impact on my career.

Then he became a lot closer and, you know, more friends, you know, obviously, like, close friends once we played an eight. years together. But then that old line room, you know, we got so many different guys. You got like Mike Capote and Dan Kilhor, super close. And then, you know, McGlensy was like just a little brother. I don't have any brother as well. He was like probably what I imagined having a little brother was. He was this kind of guy that I would like, you know, give shit to all the time, fucking pick on all the time. But, you know, one of those guys that you tell him anything. We got to be really close. That's epic. Well, it's just a good dude, man. He and I were, we went surfing together a couple times in Encinitas and he was he only had good things to say about you.

Yeah, he better. What was your favorite locker room year? The favorite what? Your favorite room, your favorite year in the locker room, your favorite locker room you've been a part of? The year we had in 2011 was really special just because everybody, like we were shit forever. And none of us, a lot of the guys that were there had like not really excited. experience any kind of success. And then all of a sudden we went from being shit. Harbaugh got there.

We went 13 and 3 that year. So just like the ride of that, everybody kind of enjoying that, you know, that high you're talking about like just winning all of a sudden from being like shit football team to being really good. That was really fun. And then this last year, just as far as like the guys in the room, um, there was a really special locker room just because of the personalities and stuff and kind of seeing how people dealt with, you know, the same kind of thing. it was fun for me to be at a different perspective, being an older player, kind of already having an experience some success, but a lot of those guys had not, you know, like seeing how George's personality kind of came into his own.

And he starts having some success and the teams having success. And it was just fun coming to work. I still have two more. Taylor, you got any? Yeah, who's your, who's the best tackle in the NFL now, Joe? That you're gone. You. I appreciate that. That's all I needed.

Carry on. I'm not even lying, though. I mean, I'm not lying, I think. Do you really think so? Hang on, Taylor, you don't say it. You don't do any speaking? You really think Taylor's the best tackle? I'm not trying to do anything.

I just want him to stay out of it. I think you and I really like Boktiari's game. But I've known Boktiari since shoot, he was like a sophomore in high school. But I've always watched, and I told you this at the Pro Bowl, actually, but I've always watched your tape. Like I thought when you were a rookie, I thought you came in and was like, it was hard for me to watch guys when I was younger

because I felt like I was a smaller tackle before smaller tackles kind of came a thing. There was a lot of guys that were like 3.30, 3.40. And I didn't think I could really kind of like translate my game to what they were doing or take pieces from what they were doing. But when you came in, I always watched and studied what you were doing

because I thought you're like your hand placement and like how you punch and like you're always in balance like that's something I always envied in my my game and try to attain but I could never do it like like you could so I would say you and I really love the way that you play the game because you you play it like how I think it should be it's not like a focus on past pro or a focus on run game it's like a complete lineman you do both things well and I think that doesn't get talked about enough everybody just talks about like oh this guy's a great pass protector, and that's what makes a great tackle. But, like, you got to be able to do, especially in the offense as we play,

you got to be able to do both at a really high level than you do. So enough feeding your ego. Well, the interesting thing about why you said that, like, it's funny you say, like, you like the way I play the game because when I got to the NFL, I didn't use my hands very well. I kind of, like, just didn't use my length. I kind of just used my feet to try to beat the guy. But it's in all aspects of your life too, right?

Yeah, yeah, pretty much. I don't use your length, ever. Well, if I think you're talking about what you're talking about, there's no length to use. Yeah, your penis. Hey, she's pregnant. Yeah, that's what I was thinking about your saying. But when I got to the NFL, like,

Solie would take me into his office and make me watch your film about how to punch. He put on, um, it was the playoffs, it was you versus Green Bay against Clay Matthew. and he made me watch that film over and over again. The way you punched, the way you, if you missed, how you recovered, how you got back in it,

the way you ran off the ball. So in a lot of ways, the things you admire about me are the things I've learned from you, which is a cool, full-circle thing. Maybe that's why I liked it so much because maybe I sometimes just watching myself. You got to love yourself, man. You don't love yourself.

If you don't love yourself, who's going to do it, right? Exactly. I love that, dude. I appreciate you saying that. A, by the time this comes out, the documentary will already be dropped. But Redskins are doing a piece on Alex. Take a moment to talk about Alex and like playing with him and, you know, what you, what you think of Alex and what you're at.

Alex is one of the most, if you guys, you played with him, right? When you were in Washington. No, he was the year after I left in Washington. Oh, he was. Okay. So one of the most, like, unbelievable human beings I've ever been around. I was actually talking with him this past season. We played the Redskins.

I saw him after the game. And, you know, he's still going through, you know, a tremendous amount of rehab and everything and everything he's been through with his leg. And I even commented at, like, I stopped him mid-conversation. I was like, dude, I can't believe, like, how positive you are about everything that's happened and gone on. It's like you don't have a down day ever.

Like, he's just the most positive, good person, loyal human being that I've been around and he's like really inspiring to like want to make yourself into like a better human being he's an unbelievable dad and unbelievable husband a tremendous competitor like never pointed fingers it was all about the team you know he had that whole thing gone or he lost his job um Kat came in never made it about him he was like you know this is the best move for the team that I support it I'm going to do what I can do to try to help cap and you know then I'm probably going to move on. But, I mean, he was just a tremendous guy to be around. And I could go on and on about, you know, what Alex meant to my career, almost the same way as, you know, Frank was.

I can't wait to watch that documentary on Friday. That's, dude, he's been so much. So much. Like, it's unbelievable. I think it'll be really eye-opening for everybody to hear, like, exactly what went on with his leg break. It was, uh, so have you gotten to see it? Have you gotten to watch it? No, I mean, I'm just talking to him. Just talking to him, yeah. throughout the years and just knowing what he's gone through. Last, my last thing, and I hope, I hope you give me what I'm wanting. Who is your favorite, who's your favorite, who's your favorite defensive coach you've been

around? Jim Thompson. There we go. That's where I wanted to start. I wanted to start. Yeah, I didn't even have to, I mean, I don't even think about that. Yeah, that's where, yo, you had a, he was a head coach for you for a year, right? Yeah, he was.

Dude, how much fun was coach Thompson? because he's my favorite, like, non-linebacker coach that I've ever been around. Like, I love sitting at the cafeteria with that motherfucker. He'd be buttoned down Italian mob, like gold, his necklace, talking about hoagie sandwiches. You want to be just, he had all the wisdom in the world, dude. All of the other than John, Tim Thompson, Thubb Sula.

Yeah, just an unbelievable dude. I mean, he got to be around them. It's, like, hard to explain him to people that don't know him. But he's, like, the most caring coach that you've ever been around. He's always asking about your families. He knows, like, your whole entire background, your sister's names, your members, everything.

So he's checking in on you. And then just being like, dude, seeing him work as a D-Line coach and like what he was able to do with like Justin, Smith, Alden, Brandon, Donald, you know, Brayle-O-Frankland, like that D-Line that we had with R ball's ears, like, he is a tremendous, tremendous football coach. But just like a character to be around it. I remember his first year we had where, I think Singletary got fired before the last game and I think it was that year.

And then he came in for one year or one game and was like the interim head coach for the last game. We were already out of the playoffs and was just kind of like a whatever week. It was probably the most fun week I've ever had playing football because he was like, we're just going to go out there and just have fun and just like, we're fucking playing a game. Like, he gives a shit. Just go out there and have fun. He came there to the first meeting like in a suit. He's like sweating.

His fucking chains open. I don't know. He was a wild dude. Well, he had his press conference that everybody goes to, refers to and last set because he has all these one-liners and shit. I remember he pulled me aside. Like, I was going through a transition and he was like, you know, he was like picking me up.

He was like, hey, I see you work? I just want you see what I do out there with all them D-Ly linemen? You see how they're all in rotation. Like a few plays in. I put him in. I don't give a fuck. I got what you call fuck you money. They're going to tell me how to play my guys.

And just, dude, he was. so much fun to be around, bro. Like after training camp, you would know to go to the back and the equipment guys because he'd be back there drinking beer and stuff with, with Minoski. Him and Minnowski would be back there. Oh, yeah. Just tag team of beers, dude, telling stories. It was like the most fun to be around those fucking guys.

Taylor and I were like on these Zoom pods. We need to make them closer to like 40 minutes, but this is the fucking best. This boy's talking it up. Feature Joe Staley on the podcast. dude having his own podcast under the umbrella bustle with the boys can't wait there we i can't fucking wait here we go boys can be killer the recruiting always goes joe we're doing if i do that then if i do that i'll probably have to move to Nashville anyways because i got to be on that bus like this can't i can't just sit i mean you want to come to national be able to bus here

more you can do what you want to do i'll tell you what you need to do regardless next off season when all this quarantine bullshit is over you need to hop on your private jet or your helicopters, whatever you own. Cruise your ass out to Nashville. Hang out for a weekend. We'll get rowdy. We'll get after. We'll get drunk.

We'll go on the bus. We'll recruit you hard. That's a weekend, huh? I mean, I got nothing but time. You want to do a week? We'll do a week. We'll do a month. Three months goes by.

I call well. Hey, yo, Joe just won't fucking leave my house, man. I got to get him home. His wife's called me five hours. He doesn't put a shirt on in three weeks. I'll tell you what. in a year the way you're going to be looking if you get that Joe Thomas, when I'm retired,

I'm going to look better than Joe Thomas looks now. And that's not a competition, but it's just done. I don't know, dude. I think this. I think you will work just as hard, Taylor, but I think the way you're built, I don't know if you'll be able to be as ripped as that, dude.

What does that mean? I have more. Don't let people talk you down, Taylor. You can do it. I believe me. You know what? I'm not going to defend myself, Joe. I appreciate that.

Your chest. You know what I'm saying? you don't got like the shelf chest. Yeah, dude, these little, I got a little chest, but here's the deal. Like, when everything else shrinks, it's going to be beggar. That's true. When everything else drinks, then calves don't be beggar. I think your legs are going to be the same size, either way.

No, but yeah, probably I'll just be more proportional. Yeah, you'll just look way better up top. Dude, I used to be so self-conscious about my calves, but now I love my legs. I love them. Your calves aren't scrawny. They're nice. Don't repeat it. Don't repeat that sentence he just said.

Why is that? No, I love my legs. I love one. They have a little vein going down my calves now. I got tattoos on one side. What's your favorite part of your body, Joe? What do you love about your body? What?

My nose. That Owen Wilson knows, dude. That Owen Wilson nose, dog. Dude, that thing's wicked, bro. It's character. Exactly. You got, actually, I know we already, we ended the podcast, but we're still on the podcast.

It's kind of weird. What was a... You get your eye blown out or something like that, like two years ago? Yeah, Fletcher Cox. What did he did? Punched me. And we were, uh, it was actually punched you? Well, no, we were on an interception.

And so I'm over here. Ball gets intercepted like, you know, right over on the sideline. And so I take, like, the creative angle to try to, like, tackle this motherfucker that's running a four-two. And I turn around and Fletcher Cox is right here. And he just goes, boom. or it's in my head. And I don't know how he did it,

but his finger got through my face mask and shattered my orbital bone. Yeah, but you were rocking that visor after that for a little bit. That's pretty dope. That dope visor. Yeah, I tried. I tried to go like the Ladani and Tomlinson dark visor, but I didn't get approved for it.

Yeah, but what, what, how much is that fine, six grand? No, that shit's like 20-something. I'm not, I'm not about, dude, I was always, my whole career, like, followed every, rule to the T. Like, I'm not about giving my money up. I know you have a different, you have a different take on that. You love, you love giving money up and getting fined. I don't love giving money up, but sometimes I fight for what I believe in, Joe. I never fought. I had no, I had no integrity. I never fought for what I needed. I was just, I tell you what, dude. I got fined $30,000

for moving a ref's hand off my chest. I got, I mean, I bet there's a little more than that story. For cussing out a rep in my career. Yeah, I have a video of me cursing out refs. You tried to fucking ruin the game? You tried to fucking run the game. Sons of bitches. Here's the issue is like my voice isn't very dominant.

Like, I don't have a, if you heard me over the phone, it's like, oh, this kid's about to go through puberty. Like, I don't have like a Brian or Rackpo voice or something. something like that. I don't know if you know a rack, but Will does. And so when I'm yelling at people, it doesn't have the same like, um, is it's a shirt. I think he's not very intimidated. No, it's not, but it doesn't need to be. When I have that shelf chest and I retire, dude, it's not going to matter.

Yeah. Fucking. You know what I'm saying? Look at the boy. 260. 260. He sends me a pick of a tarps off. Take a shirt off, dude.

Let's see it. Take it off. Just take it off right now, dude. Take a shirt off. Take a shirt off right now. Why not? Show everybody. Show everybody that retirement, bro.

Not yet. Show us everything. Hey, you're retired. It doesn't even matter. Hey, show us everything, Joe. I don't miss the locker room that much. Maybe in a couple months I'll be Jones into the be in the locker room again. I'll get on here and just show my flesh off.

Can we get you to take a show of them and put Taylor's jersey on you right now? Let's see up. Just for promotional. This is just promotional. Let's see how it fits, dude. We got to see how it fits. Yeah, just won't see how it fits. This is just promotional.

This is just for Twitter. I got to get going. I'm good. All right, dude. We'll see you later. All right, man. See you, Joe. Hey, guys.

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