Bussin' With The Boys - John Crist Talks Why Comedy Has Gotten "Easier", Evolving With His Fans & Why Comics Are Choosing Youtube Over Netflix

Episode Date: May 9, 2023

Recorded: May 8th 2023 | On this week's episode, Will is missing unfortunately because the boy has pink eye so Taylor goes solo with comedian John Crist. The boys get into how Crist started/got into comedy and how he originally started in Church. Following that they get into the differences between Skits vs. Sketches, how to not steal another comedian's jokes, the reason SNL gets away with all of their edgy jokes, as well as when he realized he really needed to start working at his craft in comedy. The guys then get into how to keep evolving your comedy. Crist talks about how your audience will change with you and therefore different things will be funny to different age groups. Along with that, different cultures will find different types of comedy funny. Finally the boys get into a deep conversation of trying to find your “why”. The boys get into the feeling of having a fan coming up to them, and saying that they have helped them through a tough time or the reason they got out of depression. The pod is all over the place, there are some good laughs as well as come conversation that will really make you think. 8:00 John started comedy in church 14:05 Andrew Santino saved his career 16:14 Taylor interviewing Jeffree Star 19:20 Finding that line of what's a joke and what's not 24:59 Does he get jealous of other comedians and their art 25:46 Sketches vs Skits 32:49 How do SNL jokes just fly by and not be canceled 42:18 Crist doesn’t curse in his show but is still wildly popular 50:23 Why did he leave LA for Nashville? 53:58 At what point did comedy get really serious for Crist? 55:18 TikTok is the problem with comedy now 56:30 The never ending process of evolving with your fan base 1:11:28 How the feeling of making people laugh is so intoxicating 1:20:45 John’s teaches Taylor about the Amish community 1:30:11 John breaks down comedy to the most simple terms 1:46:35 How Jerry Seinfeld paved the way for comedians 1:52:03 Crist has some words for Comedians on TikTok 2:02:09 Is it a right of passage to get canceled as a comedian and why he got canceled 2:08:47 His special is coming out and why comedians choose Youtube over Netflix 2:17:50 Fans coming up to you and saying that you helped them or they idolize you 2:33:14 Why do the things that you do / what is your why 2:46:04 How he came up with the title for his special SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Head over to Chevy.com to learn more. True Classic: Get 25% OFF @trueclassic with promo code BUS at https://trueclassictees.com/BUS ! #trueclassicpod Sports Clips: Next time you need a cut, come to Sport Clips and get a head-turning haircut from the Pros in Men’s Hair Duke Cannon: You can pick up these hardworking products at DukeCannon.com and use code BUSSIN10 for 10% off your order.For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But you might be looking at me going, hey, where's the boy? Where's the other set of teeth that we love to look at every single week? Boys got pink eye. He got the stank in his eye. A lot of people think it's because of his daughter. Will is even saying because of his daughter, I am willing to go on this mic right now and say that it wasn't. That was 100% a self-inflicted wound by Will.

The boys like to play risk online. That's me, Corey Levin, Dennis Kelly, and Brad Labrott, I believe his last name is. Brad is Will's friend from Bontara, Missouri. Great guy, great individual, fun, just a good group of dude. However, Will likes to make fart jokes. We see it on the internet all the time. Halfway through this game, which is a four-hour game, by the way. I didn't get a sleep till late, but your boy's grinder.

He pulls a headset off his head, puts it down to his butthole, farts extremely loud, and then puts it immediately back on his head, Mike in his face, laughing hysterically at what he's done. And my man, is he paying for comedy? But boys and girls, that's why we love him so much because he's willing to sacrifice his body and his eyesight for the sake of the joke. So please, if you're sitting at home listening to us on audio or watching on YouTube, just give that man a round of applause real quick. Absolutely love that. Our guest today was

Chris. No, John Christ. John Chris. Comedium does a lot of sketches. I believe we had a conversation about sketches and skits and how you don't say skits. You should say don't want to say sketches. Great individual. Amazing time. Sometimes when you come and do these things by yourself and you're meeting with an individual that you haven't met before. You don't know how it's going to go. You don't know how the chemistry is going to be because let's call a spade of spade. Your boy doesn't line up with everybody. I'd like to. I wish I could.

I love to be a people person. But sometimes it just doesn't align. To me personally, this two hour and 30 minute podcast other than this intro that you're about to listen to was incredible. I was engaged the whole time. I was just learning about this individual, learning about the art of comedy, learning about his religious background, his Amish background of all things. I think he tried to swindle me on a haircut.

He had one saying that was the real deal. Holyfield, but I don't believe him for one second. Lots of laughs, lots of giggles. I think I had a couple of good ones. myself actually. And it's tough. When you have comedians on, there is this back and forth in your mind, this mental warfare you go through. You're like, they're funny professionally. Can I also be funny with them? Now, jury's still out. You guys would have to tell me in the comments on YouTube, tweet at me, hey, you suck. Aslo one. You're a piece of shit. Or, hey, you did all right for yourself because I love to

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please enjoy. Andrew Santino, he like saved my whole career. No, he didn't. It didn't. Interstantino. What a way to start this podcast. Yeah, really? Yeah.

Well, Andrew Santino, I was like doing a bunch of shows. Like, I was, like, I got this weird. Like, I wouldn't say it's a cult following. It's the opposite of a cult. But it's, like, I used to perform in a bunch of churches because my dad was a preacher. Yeah. Which is kind of goes along with cult, but you keep going. Not, I'm not saying church is cool.

No, no, no, no. I was going to say that out the junk. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to say, well, do you think every church, if they kept going, it would eventually become a cult? I don't know what the definition of a cult really is. It's kind of more of a fun thing to say because I think a cult, I think of like Taylor Swift Show. Yeah.

Taylor's Swift Show. Pauls Manson, like very similar. Like, illegal stuff. Yeah, I don't know about that. I think it's just like buying into something. And then there's always like some sort of concoction at the end that you have to take to kill yourself. Something greater than. Yeah, there's always a dead end.

Yeah. It doesn't end well. Yeah, it never ends well. It ends with a Netflix documentary. Yeah, one of the sad ones too. They're like, let's say a church is like a small church. They're like, hey, we want you to come here more and give more and volunteer more and be more. Yeah.

That's not a cult the minute they say you can't leave. When does it? Yeah. If you say, I don't think I'm with this anymore and then they don't. They're not friends with you. Right. That might be it. That might be when you cross.

That's definitely, I think, the cutoff point between relationships. Imagine in a cult is when they say you have to pay off whatever debt. You're not allowed to leave here. Yeah, I'm out. Yeah. That's when it's time. It's like an HOA. You need to reevaluate.

He's like, hey, I'm, well, I was doing all these shows, like, because I started doing a lot of stand-up at church. Yeah. And I was doing- Where you started? Yeah. In church. Yeah.

Because my dad's a preacher. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I watched your special and it was very, like, around religion. Yeah. To start comedy. Yeah.

To start comedy in a church seems like one of the scarier places to start. You know, you go to a zanis, you go to a random spot, it's like, okay, like, people are going to take and give whatever, because everything's kind of okay to do. In church, there's a lot of boundaries. Well, there's a lot of boundaries, but if you, like, grew up like that, like if you did stand up like at a, like at a football camp, not a football camp, like a coach's clinic or something, you would have more liberty because you know all the stuff. Yeah. That I wouldn't even get. He was like, dude, you know, when a guy's coming across and that three, four, and you're playing a four, two, five, and you're like, Yeah. What? Like what you just said didn't make sense, but I get it.

But you're dying, dude. But I got it. You're like, bro. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it was like. Because everybody's like a normal comic, not a normal comic, but like, if I do a, if somebody says we got to do a clean show. Yeah. It limits you. You can't do this, this. I got to get rid of this bit, this bit. And they were like, you do a show in church. I was like, yo. I was like, what kind? Yeah. Pentecostal Baptist? Oh, dude, I got. I got jokes for days. And then I was just going in there. And I was just just just. everybody was just like, ah, like they were, because my dad was a preacher, so it was like, I couldn't really get fired.

You know, if like, I couldn't really get fired. You know, if like the GM is like, I'm trying to think if the coach is like your dad, maybe, then you're like,

I can kind of come late for workouts because like, maybe in high school, not, but like, yeah, I get what you're saying. If your boss was the owner, yeah.

You'd be like, well, if I don't, I'm like, who's going to fire me? And he's like, so I was just like making all these jokes. Like horrible bosses when the guy's doing cocaine in the back,

He's like, yeah, I can kind of do whatever the fuck I want. He's fine. Yeah, he's fine. So I was like doing all these jokes about him in the corner. And I was like across the line. And like, but like ever like my dad and the pastor at the church at the time was all like, they thought it was hilarious because they couldn't really say it. But I was like roasting people in the church about how they were singing. And like everybody was like, dude, this is offensive.

But they were all like, it's hilarious. Yeah. So how did you market that? The church. I mean, I didn't really. I just like started. Showed up on a Sunday. Kind of.

They were like come do like. They were like, last 15 minutes of sermon. I would do the right after the worship, after the singing, before the preaching, there's like a guy that comes up. And he's like, hey, church picnic is on Saturday. You know, the food drive is on Thursday. You do all the stuff. And I was like, church picages on Saturday.

I'm probably just going to go to me girls or whatever. But everybody's just like, like, can he say that? Like, everybody's looking around. Yeah, in church. Yeah. It's not really, it's like. It's funny to say, to explain, it's like kind of like dirty or church. Yeah.

It's not in regular life. Dude, I was- I went to church yesterday, made a deal. I was on an airplane. I slide that in. Yeah, slide that in. I was on a flight back from New York. And I had A2, not to flex, but I had A2 on a Southwest flight.

Let's go. I got to board when they already finished the A1 through 30. So I literally sat down. I sat in the back, me and Will. He was aisle. I was window. And I literally said, Hey, buddy,

if this thing feels up, though, it's a full flight. Yeah. Everyone's gonna have their seat taken. I was like, if this seat's in the middle is empty, I got to go to church. I got to go.

That's my sign. Sure enough, dude. One fucking seat left. Really? One seat. And I was in. I was like, I gotta go.

And you're talking about like church and being like dirty for church. It's so funny because most of people in church have that humor. They'll watch comedy. They'll watch comedy to do that. Everybody, JP. Everybody.

He's a churchcoring. He's a funny fucking guy. And he thinks a lot of things are funny. Yeah. I'll be with a guy. Church, but in real life, bad person?

Yeah, horrible person. He's a bad guy. And so you just see him and you're like, wow, this guy's really just got the world tricked. No, you go to church and you see dudes on Saturday night

and they're out there drinking, having a good time. And then Sunday, it's like they've never done nothing wrong in their life. You know where all the church people are at in Nashville? Soho House. You think so? It's not a Nashville podcast,

right? Every time we do on our podcast, sometimes we talk about Nashville. And I was like, We don't know what you're talking about. Really? Because it's ever... Dude, I feel like Soho House.

I feel like... The Seahouse is everywhere, though. Belmead Country Club. The worst. Yeah. Or what's Richland Country Club? Yeah. That's where the churchgoers in Nashville are.

I feel like Soho House is more like artsy. Are you part of Soho House? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm insecure. Well, I'm insecure because I'm an artist. So they were like, hey, here's a thing for artists.

But you might not be able to get in. That's how you, they hook you. They're like, you might not qualify. You're like, well, I need to know if I qualify. Yeah. Yeah, so you actually got in there. How much is it for a year to be a part of a month? Too much.

Just call you, just forgive your parents. It would be easier. That's all necessary. So Santino saved. So you're at church. Okay, so I'm doing all these church. And Santino. You're doing well.

And are you only? I hate, I keep cutting off. But I got to know the full background here. You're only doing it for your dad's sermons? No, no, no. So I started. So you start branching off to other guys.

Yeah, yeah. Because like the church next door was like, yo, we'll pay like 300 bucks to come over here to do our like, youth camp or whatever. And comedies to start, before you get a fan base is next to near impossible to make a living out. Yeah. So then I was like, three, no, yeah. Like you would do a comedy club. You would work all weekend, five shows, and get paid about 600 bucks. Three nights. And you had to pay for yourself. Buy yourself and pull yourself up. So you're not making anything. No. So the church, First Baptist, is like, we'll pay you like a thousand dollars to do our like fundraiser dinner. And I was like,

Uh, yeah. No question. I'll be there. I'll be there. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be there. And so I started doing it.

And I started with putting these videos on social media and getting bigger and bigger. Doing like these. Like there's nobody else supply and demand. Why there's no one else to do it. There's a lot of guys that are, but there's like, it was like very. And so anyway, I was doing all these. And me and Santanao would become friends through comedy works where I came up and he would come through. And so I moved, uh, Denver.

Denver. Denver. I moved to L.A. And I was trying to get into the comedy store. The comedy store is like the Before Joe Rogan moved to Austin That was like the

If you got past That's like making the team If you got passed At the comedy store That was it You were the king And everybody, Richard Pryor,

all the greats have come to there So I was like Go and do these huge shows On the road at churches And making like I want to say What's weird to say I was making a lot of money

You're not flexing You're just saying in fact I go I was doing the shows church is making, oh, shoot. Yeah. You got to give myself into that. You're good.

You're good. Yeah. And then it was like going like wet. And like people, now I was doing like ticketed events. So people were coming to like see me because of these videos I put on the internet. And then I was like staying up at Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday night, staying up to one, two and three in the morning at trying to get in at this get in at the comedy store. And Santino was in there. And he brought me aside one day.

He's like, hey, dude. You don't need to spend your time here. He's like, you're already, he's like, he goes, we're trying to do what you are already doing. How'd that feel when he said that? Unbelievable. Yeah. And I never, I never went again. Really?

I never went again. Is it like, um. Because they were all trying to get past to get on a sitcom to get a TV show to sell tickets. Right. But I could already sell, I could go to Wichita and sell 3,000 tickets. So he's like. Fucking Wichita. Or whatever, not to roast.

No, that's perfect. That's a righteous gemstone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He goes, where they're at? Yeah. Yeah. Is it my feet? I don't know.

He goes, don't like. Like, we are trying to do what you're doing. And there's these, in essence, there's like, same with podcasting a lot of it. There's these people that love you. Just go to them. Yeah. Like, if they're like, we want you to host the red carpet at the Emmys. You're like, that's not really our.

Yeah. I still do that, bomb. I would be terrible. I always do that. Yeah, right. They'll take it. Yeah, but if it was like a, we'll be something. We'll be something that would.

Yeah. We want you to, I don't even know what the Met Gala is. I just see once a year people wearing goofy shit. And it's like, I'm trying to think of something that you would be like, disrespect. to your base by doing. I already did that with Jeffrey Starr. I didn't get that. I literally will do fucking anything, dude.

I'll do whatever it is. Cross that bridge already. People were like, people, when they saw the Jeffrey Starr thing, it was like, what is he doing interviewing this man girl? And then all of a sudden he said, like, the whole thing about pronouns are like, you know, this guy's not too fucking bad. He's not bad at all, actually. You know what?

Yeah. That's a smart bitch. Send him over this way. I forgot about that. Dude. What a wild. I saw an article today. about that, that actually people, like this football article came out that's like,

still saying, like him at a week ago saying that I'm actually dating Jeffrey Starr's still. Yeah. And that's a tough, that's a tough pill to swallow when you're married with two kids. You know what? That's the two. Well, a lot of comics do that. What? Because they make stuff about their kids.

Yeah. And they're like, well, this special. Wait, wait. They make stuff about their kids. They're like, well, they roast their kids. Yeah. And they're like, well, your kid's like, I can't stand this kid. He's like, this kid's going to become.

Christa does it all the time. He does it. He does it. And they're key being like Like not smart And like this kid's not going to be successful Not smart to the point We're like you know

But I guess That word I mean You can have like exaggerate That the Jeffrey Star thing That might be a little But everybody's like Too much for you

No but every No not Background I understand No not me I'm just saying everybody But you're why Everybody knows that's in It's part of the thing

Right Yeah But that's like That was a really unique Situation because The football community Football is a very homophobic sport, extremely homophobic.

Is it? Yeah. I mean, I guess. Nah, you're probably right. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, most homophobic. I don't know why I said I guess like we're having a, yes, I know it is. I've been in the locker room.

It's a homophobic sport. I would say number one, probably NASCAR. Yeah. If you're ranking them. If you're ranking. I would, but NBA's got to be up there too. I'm just going off of my experience. You don't know, JP?

What is that mean? This is somebody and me guys is sweet. This is why we took his mic. Yeah, this is yeah. Weed is just like, uh, the kid's term for Yeah, now. Oh, really? Oh, it's like, yeah, it's kind of like trendy.

Right. Man, imagine when the word sweet gets canceled. Yeah. Yeah. That's gonna be a tough little deal. They're coming for you first. No. Sweet factor would be done.

Yeah, no, the black culture came up with sweet. So it's kind of, this man's kind of sweet. Yeah. That means he's got. Exactly. Man, that probably explains. Oh, tennis. Brickett.

Yeah, he's, yeah. Is this the most homophobic sports? This is an article, yeah, where they're trying to pinpoint where it's originating from. We thought this was the original. idea. They're like, we already... Yeah, I can only go off of mine. Yeah. And so I legit, when that all happened, I had teammates reaching out to other teammates asking if it was true. And then only like my close teammate friends would text me and be like, hey, bro. What's going on here? Yeah. Oh, like seriously when they're bringing aside? Absolutely. Well, you have like a, your trouble

and kind of my trouble, I guess, is like you have like a joke and but also a serious business. Like you legitimately play. Yeah. That part's real. Yeah. That's, I actually step. I actually step. on the field. Yeah, some of this other stuff is a little bit. Yeah. It's a, I guess, a Fogazi, right? But you don't know where, like, you don't know where the line is about what this part's a joke. But then, like, once you get off, like, you're, you, if you make it to the league,

you have to be a dog. Yeah. An absolute dog and dead serious. But this side, you have to be a jokester. Yeah, it's funny you say that because there is a line. and that's the thing I dislike the most about sports is like finding the line because people think like to be good at your job, you only have to be serious

100% a time on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like people like with the podcast if you're like, oh, this guy needs to just focus on ball. And it's like, well, I'm not playing Call of Duty. Yeah, sure, yeah. Some guys put Call of Duty for seven hours a day. I just do a podcast for an hour, two hours a day. I think we have free, we got some free time. Yeah, we got some free time. We got a lot of boys in here too. Got a lot of boys hanging out. They take care of it. Got a lot of boys hanging out. What are you supposed to do? If you like a lot of, or are you allowed to do in your free time?

Can you hunt? Can you? I think you can't do anything that wouldn't involve you getting hurt. So you can't like surf or like snowboard or do anything, really any other sports. Focus on your sport. Yeah, right. 100%. But you're talking about the lines like with your job, like where is your line?

Well, we try to do, we would try to do, we make fun of everything. And we would try to make, if that, if we, let's say we were making a joke about Kim Kardashian or. And then somebody, my agent came, I mean, this has never happened, but my agent came to me before the show is like, hey, Kim Kardashian's coming to the show. Yeah. And if I would remove that joke, that's the line. Like any joke I would tell about anybody, I would do it to them. Yeah. And we don't.

Would you say, hey, Kim's here? And then going on, Kim, that's what you have to do. And I was like, and I was thinking about not doing this joke because she was here, but I was like, I'll go for it. Yeah. Like, if we make a joke about Obama or Trump, I was like, if Trump was here, he would think that was funny. Who's a, who's a celebrity that you would have to, that would. come to your show and like five minutes before you go on, they'd be like, hey, so-and-so's here.

And you'd like, fuck, I love this. What would make you, like, more nervous? I mean, I'm trying to think of like, we had a, we had a, I mean, we had a good run of like Fauci jokes there. Yeah. So if Fauci came to your show, that would be a little nerve-wracking for you? That would be awesome, dude.

Just get them up there and be like, so tell us about that vaccine for real. Yeah, what's going on here. Yeah, just between us. Yeah. Mike's, the mics off. So it's like from a celebrity standpoint, do you think there's ever, because once

you're in the world. Like, I mean, you're definitely in the world. Like, you are a well-known comedian. Yeah. People know who you are. Anyone who follows comedy knows you are. Yeah. Yeah. And so there gets to a point, it's like, when do you stop looking at these other celebrities like celebrities and start looking at them as peers? As your buddies. Yeah. And so my, my question is like, what is that upro-ational? We're like, hey, that's still a big-time celebrity to me. Well, we wouldn't, we wouldn't go, I would never do anything, like, look up to anyone else that was also a comedian. So, like, if you're in the green room and, like,

I did a show with, like, Dave Chappelle one time I opened, but I can't be like, bro, can we get a photo like that? If somebody came in the locker room that was drafted and asked for a photo, you'd be like, well. That has happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, well, but it is one of those things. We're probably not going to be peers, but.

Yeah, it is one of those deals where you kind of like look at it. You're like, damn, this is kind of a wild situation. You see that true there. Yeah, yeah. Let me just that out there. Nine years. Nine years. Yeah.

I've had these little, doth. for a while. I saw a little flake hanging out the toe. I had to get that real quick. What's opening you and look, bro. Let me boy do a kick flip. But you look at Dave, you kind of, with Dave Chappelle, I kind of hope there's an opening. Hey, let's get everybody. Let's get a photo of everyone real quick.

And then you get as close to him as possible. Yeah, try to ease in there. Yeah. Let me get it right here. Then I started guy kind of shimmy into the middle. If he, I mean, yeah, I wouldn't. If anybody that's also, but the funny thing about comics is like, if you saw, if you saw Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise like, it like Kane Prime.

or something. You'd be like, yeah. If you saw any comedian, you'd go over the, ah, what's so, bro? Yeah, to have them up real quick. Because a comic is like you. Yeah.

If a comic is good, like, dude, Kevin Hart has not sniffed a commercial airline in 10 years. What a dream. More than 10 years. Yeah.

And you think he's, by the way, like Nate, Nate Pargatsy. Yeah. He lives here. He's one of our, He's like, dude, you have no idea how huge that guy is. But to the audience and to his like, his like topics are like very every man.

Yeah. And that's what's great about a comic. Connection is a major key. He's like, look, he's like one of you making fun of up there. Yeah. Corporations or the president or whoever. But the comic is one of you, very relatable. But you would never.

I mean, yeah. I was going to say Theo, but are we allowed to say that or not? You can say his name. I don't want to say. I don't want to say his name. His mic's got cut off. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, Theo is a very unique mind. And so when he started talking shit about me and Will, it gets into one of those deals where you're like, we're going to war knowing we're going to lose this war. Oh, yeah. Like, how are you going to get on a microphone against Theo Vaughn and win? Oh, yeah. That's going to be tough. Yeah.

It just works at a different speed. Yeah. Have you ever met another man with his mind? Never. I tell everybody. I go, dude, if you, I go, hey. this guy is like on another that's like unlike anything I've ever seen

everybody just like let it like just enjoy it for what it is I don't know what it is but it's incredible you ever feel like a love like you're obviously a funny comedian but do you ever feel like a level of jealousy to other comedians the way their minds work? Oh yeah

everybody does I think name a comedian that I'd be jealous of let's see I mean you just see the way their brain works and you're like Damn, bro. This actually just has it like that. Well, Andrew said, Andrew Schultz. He's a guy. He's the guy that... He seems like he's getting on top of the world. He's on top of the world.

And any other comic, by the way, I wouldn't say jealous. I would jealous of their art. Not jealous of the people know them. Yeah. I go, yeah. The Rising Tide lifts all boats. That's right. Everybody else does good.

It's good for everybody. If people love your podcast, let's go find more podcasts. Good for everybody. How do you, when you make those relationship with those types of guys, is there a level of, because like you say, a rising tide lifts all boats. You're looking at these other comedians. Everyone's got a podcast now.

Everyone does skits. Everyone does shows. Like, is there a level of when you... Sketches. Excuse me. Yeah, you do sketches. My fault. Your little skits.

Do your little skits. Yeah, my bad. My bad. A couple of your little skits. Yeah. I've seen a couple of those little skits. They're solid, dude. They're solid.

The football coach one? Classic, dude. It's a classic. That's what I do like a family, like a family reunion when I was like in middle school, like a skit. I go to skit. Yeah, but you don't do, you do sketches now. For the football one, but that, I bet that has made me, I mean, $3 million.

Really? Yeah, that bit. Don't know that number like that, too. I mean, I don't know how to say it like that, but I'm trying to put an estimate on. Yeah. Just as far as like getting that kind of attraction. No, no, no, no. It wasn't unnecessary.

But I'm trying to, the magnitude of, I mean, a kid came up to me yesterday in the airport. I'm like, dude, are you that football coach? I go, if they say that, I'd just go, yeah, you know, not in the game anymore. It's not the game anymore. You know, they let me go for that. They let me go for that. Yeah. But when you're with these comedians, do you, like, in the back of your mind, like, how do I do a sketch with this guy?

Like, you look at a Gillian keeps, for instance, those guys. Yeah, yeah. How do you get in there with that? Well, that's every episode. Everybody, you want to write, I like to write what's in my head and act what's in my head. And I like to get actors to play my things. Yeah. I've partnered up sometime with like Trevor Wallace,

Trey Kennedy, some other local comics to be in my videos. But I think we all look at each other as like, as like, you know, Michael Jordan wanted to play against the best. Yeah. Like a worthy adversary.

We don't look at him. We're like, oh, I hope he gets canceled. Yeah. I mean, no, we don't. Yeah. That one name that floated in your mind went out real fast. I'm not going to say that name, dude. You would hope that he, yeah, you don't hope that you would hope, you're like, you watch other people's stuff, right?

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You're like, oh, I could rewire this just a little bit and move. That's like that's like the golden rule, right? Wired it a little bit. Yeah. Well, so somebody came up and told me a joke like in the, you should say X, Y, and Z. It might like meet and greet or something ago. You should add this to that joke.

And I did it the next night and it crushed. I was like, like. Oh, for real. No, I didn't like it. That they were like a off-de-stress. street and they were like do this and it worked. And I don't like... This is an individual. This wasn't another comedian.

No, dude. But you were doing like some meet and greet. Yeah. And some dude comes up to you and goes, a couple of suggestions. Yes. And I handed you a napkin. I got to work and then I was like, wait. Well, that might work. Yeah.

And then I wanted to take you after that conversation. We were like, fuck, that might actually do something. I did it the next show. Well, yeah. But like that night where you like laying there in bed and just like, oh my God. It was a matinee and we had a late show. So I did it the same day. Did you crush?

And I hated it. I hated the person. Really? Yeah, dude, I got- Did you ever reach out to him and tell him, hey, thank you? No. Yeah, dude, forget that guy. No, no, no, no, no.

I think you should have voted himself. Yes, that's a great joke. I think you get, there's a little bit of, like, if somebody, everybody can, everybody has, like, gender jokes now. Yeah. Everybody. But there's a certain, if you do one, somebody else's is better, like, like, let's say Jim Gaffigan has, like, the, like, Hot Pocket.

He has the greatest bit of all time about. hot pockets. You're like, you shouldn't do a hot pocket bit. We're like, well, you can. Yeah. You're going to be embarrassed because his, if you have one better than his, go, go head to head with him. There's only one way to find out and that's to do it. Go for it. Yeah. And the gender thing, too, that just seems like, it's like S&L, dude. They just take whatever's going on in the world and they write sketches on that. Yeah. Yeah. And then, and also, but then they add this element of not being funny. So they're doing great. Yeah. Yeah. They got some hitters here and there. They have actually. They have a couple here and there that are good. Did, you know what I said. We

talked about this on our podcast, our podcast is the thing they do with the switching jokes for each other with Michael Che. That is so funny. Okay. That is funny. It is. I agree. But every, S&L is very progressive, very, you know, they don't make any jokes about.

I can see where you're leaning while we start this podcast? 23 minutes in. I found out where you're staying. Can we get this American flag back here? Yeah. Why is it off? Yeah. We have a handshake.

Yeah. Big 45 guy, but keep going. Anyway, this is not like about that, but just like, just think about it in the primaries and just, I'm just kidding. I was going to make up, I don't know what the primaries are or like the, yeah, yeah. I don't think anybody knows. No one really started following politics until 16. No. Who has that joke?

Who has that joke about like, we shouldn't, like, we know too many of the people in politics. Yeah. Like, we shouldn't in our day-to-day lives know who Mitch McConnell is. By nature of that job, you shouldn't know him. I don't know who said that, but I know Shane. I know. Is he that a joke about that? does a bit about how like nobody watched the primaries

and then like he's like my opponent's gay and everyone's like oh you can do that? Yeah. He's like he goes nope. You're like I don't know. You can just say that. He's flat true. Just watched him to scale the ratings

dude too. Like a be all end on. He won. Well I was going to say about SNL is that they're very can't make any jokes about any any of those and they did this little like like ornate like switch with like but like

all the jokes are, they're wildly racist, wildly racist. SNLs. You know, the joke swap, where the black guy and the white guy switched jokes. Yes. So I go, and these are all over TikTok, I go, so if a 10-year-old is like, like a black people, like gorillas or like black man can't afford to like feed his family.

You're going to land this plane. What I'm saying is, I go, all these jokes are wildly inappropriate. But you've just like kind of switched it. it up on us so you can now say a 10-year-old kid didn't know any of these things. Right. And now he knows all of those jokes. Yeah. I go, how are we like it, it's fine.

I'm a comedian. I like jokes. I'm into jokes, but don't say like, it's like a ventriloquist. It's like, I'm not racist. The puppet is. Yeah. Because the puppet is like, okay, but like, and you're like, come on. Yeah.

He's saying it. The guy. His mouth's not moving, though. He can't be honest. No, he can't be honest. No. He can't. not moving. There's no way he said it.

How clearly veiled is this? Yeah. You're like, oh, he's like, like, uh, Jeff Dunham is like Ahmed, the dead. Remember that? When you were, we were growing up, it was the terrorist. And he was like saying all this stuff that was so out of pocket. Dude, I couldn't stand him. Remember that?

I thought that was so annoying with the puppets. I never thought that was funny. And he was like this guy. And he was going, oh, come on. We shouldn't say that. I'm like, he just said it, dude. Yeah. And everybody's like, this guy rules.

It's not racist at all. That's so funny. Well, that's the S&L thing to me. It goes, but I'm fine with all those jokes. I think they're hilarious. Just don't grandstand as S&L. We're like, they canceled Shane, canceled Melissa Vius. And you were like, get him off the show because Shane, what do you have?

Like a, he had a racist tweet. Yeah. You want to read it out loud, Jack? Yeah. You want to read what he said to? We love Shane, dude. We love it. We had to do with armor, right?

There was armor and there was a weak point. That's what we can say about that. Yeah, yeah. That's what we can say about that. Which are like, but all those. You never want to work for Estenel. No, dude. No, I mean, unless, like, Republicans got in charge, then I would, yeah.

Nah, I'm just kidding, dude. I mean, no. No, I don't mind. I think everybody has, but when you say, like, I don't, like, you know, it's when a pastor is, like, we need to, like, come out against, like, my, like, come out against gay marriage. Then you find out he's, like, in a secret, like, gay, like, dude, I guess, don't. Item plane tight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess.

Maybe that's the, yeah, yeah. Everybody's, the S&L just sneaking under the radar. No one's ever been like, hey, super quick. By the way. Yeah. What you guys should do is you should just make a right-wing SNL. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you and a bunch of comedians should just get together.

Yeah. Fine, whatever channel is willing to take that leap of faith. Right-wing SNL. Yeah, right-wing SNL. Yeah, right-wing SNL. Yeah, right-T-N-Lat. Yeah, right-T-Wat TV. You tried to give it a run, I think.

Yeah. Wait, what about, uh, do you, I always hear that, like, the, um, like Gutfeld and stuff like that's like, it's like beats the Tonight Show by like double. What's Guttfeld? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Up Gutfeld. Gutfeld is like Fox, it's like Fox News,

like late night show. The Gutfeld, look up the show. It's like a, he goes, what's Gutfeld? And that's a while because you live in Nashville.

Yeah. Look up the late night, late night TV show rate, that show. You ever seen that show? Never. Really? Not once.

Look up the late night, late night ratings. All the late night, that's, he does like a panel show. Yeah. It's like goes up against all the late night shows. When you were,

when you were starting this, this comedy. Were you ever like, I want to be a movie star or I want to have my own show, like I want to be a talk show host where you would look at these ratings. I could do this. Godfell's number one. Number one in what? Late night. Late night TV. Yes. He beats S&L. He beat, no, he beats, look at the ratings right there. He beats Colbert. Two more and four million total viewers. And what is it? Is this? That's higher than the late show is COVID. That's higher than the tonight show. And what does

you do? It's like a Chelsea Lately type show. He just sits around. It's like a panel show. You just roast people. But it's conservative. That's what like, it's so funny that we're talking about this. Yeah, it's a while. I never thought we get on a topic like this. You're saying all the words though. I'm kind of just weird. You're kind of like, you're the one doing it. I'm down to have this conversation as long as I can

stay in the same way. We're going to clip this and use it against you. We're saying. No, no. Don't ventriloquist me. All of a sudden it's my mouth not moving. Be like, Taylor said this. I don't Jeff done a media Don't have you Jeff done of me Like when we

Put their turban on media He's not saying it the puppet is Yeah Like in the When I lived in L.A. When like that Hillary Trump election Was happening And like

Couldn't find a soul You couldn't find a Trump flag You couldn't find a Trump Nothing Right It was all in the basement in their house Yeah But everyone

It's the same with like It's same with like Adam Carolla He has a podcast Huge Like all the biggest podcasts They're like This isn't I'm not even You're speaking facts.

I'm just thinking facts. You're just speaking facts. Ben Shapiro, biggest one. Like all those guys, like Matt Walsh is a big, but you can't find anybody around. It's like, I love it. Yeah. Like Adam Carolla, he's like speaking just the most truth out and no one listens,

but the podcast is number one. Yeah. You go, what's going on? Right. Everybody has to be like the secret. I was going to say like the Underground Railroad, but that's probably not a good analogy. No, especially where we've been going. We've been going in this whole podcast.

You're trying to take the, conservative underground railroad. Bus with the boys can't. But I didn't say any of this, bro. I said none of this, dude. Underground railroad. That's a tough. Yeah, but keep going, dude. Keep fucking going.

No, no, no, no. I'm loving this. This is outstanding. It's like nobody can, nobody can, it's like, uh, what to be like, I mean, not anymore because they've kind of like somehow even come back around themselves, but like six, seven years ago, nickel back.

Yeah. I mean, that's not, it's a hack joke now, but like, Nickelback's the worst band ever. Everyone hated them. You know where they put. play when they come to town. Nissan Stadium. Right. Who's going?

Right. Everybody. Everybody. We got some nickelback fans. The Nickelback came on this podcast. I literally told them. When I was like 13, 14 years old, all my classmates were like, nickel back sucks. They're the worst.

And I'd be like, hell yeah, they do. I didn't know at all. I don't know three of their songs. They were all awesome songs. Yeah. But, you know. Nickelback's terrible. I'm a sheep.

Yeah. Turn on your Spotify, there's the top five songs are like, there's a lot of nickelback in here. So why do you think that is? Go ahead and dive into main. mainstream media and why that's a that's not real why so yeah well why is gutfeld the biggest and no one is having a hard time understanding gutfeld it's so okay it's like the tonight show tonight show yeah is it yeah that's a good way to say the talk show on fox news yeah it's on fox news yeah it's on late night it's like more like entertainment dream than actual talk to the you talk to the hardcore red

folks though they say fox news is liberal now too oh yeah they've even turned on it yeah all right so why why like we make it, we have these jokes at our show. I go, everyone is like in real life, like such a good person, but inside are like, I say my whole show is just the group text with your buddies out loud. I love that. That's all my show is. That's a great analogy. Yes. We're like, John, do you care about children? Yes, of course. Would you like to donate a dollar to help children? No. No chance. Would you like to write? Your meal is $7.98. Would you like to round up to help children? Nah, good. Good on that. No way. Everybody secretly is bad inside.

But you find a way in your, in your, just absolutely move on from that. You find a way to be a terrible person. Next question. Well, at the end of this, I'm going to invite people to get saved. That's the end of this. I'm going to convince everyone they're bad.

You'll have people in a blender talking like that, dude. Hey, dude, this guy got a twisted up. The psychology that you have on people is crazy. But you look at, you watch your standup and it seems like, I mean, you do, like, I would let my kids sit down and watch it and enjoy it. And it's like funny. But it's like good PG-G 13. We got indoctrinate these kids early.

Yeah. But we're not talking about like, you know, Bill Burr or Gillis or, you know, these guys that are coming out there with the. Well, everybody, like, everybody needs to be themselves. Right. So, like, if you got a, I grew up, like, I just wasn't allowed to swear in my house. My dad was a preacher. We lived in the South.

We were homeschooled. So, like, I called my brother a butt head one time and I got my mouth washed out with soap. Yeah, good. I know. Yeah, you should do that too for your kids. I do. Yeah.

Well, so that's just how I grew up. And that's, like, kind of the worldview I see, the world. And so we need, we need all the comedians. We like, you take it from that way. I'll take it from this way. Super, like, Andrew Dice Clay's, like, all those guys that came before us that are very dirty. And then, like, some people are, we need everybody. And everybody's, like, comic comedy is very subjective.

Where, like, you could be, like, this is hilarious. You show your wife. She's like, I don't think it's funny. You're like, how? Right. It's very, you can't, you can't say another comedian's not funny. It's not funny to you. Yeah.

That's, like, football is objective. That guy's good. That guy's not. Right. Everybody, there's a. There's levels of gray's in some areas. There's that. But there is, there is a black and white, he's good or he's not.

And then once you get to the, he's good parts, like, how good are we talking? Yeah. Is he great? Yeah. I guess there's ticket sales and, I guess, followers, maybe. But I wouldn't even say that because some guys came, came around before, like, Zaney's. It's a very unique time of comedy because they're open every day. Every day of the week, it's sold out.

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, you got these like niche like podcasters and like, what was it? Not a good word. No, you're good. Yeah. We got close to being a bad word. Oh, neat.

Me. Wow. All right. I'm done. I'm done with that. Yeah. It was the puppet, dude. It was the puppet.

Yeah. You had these niche. It's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. It's sold out. These nice podcasts and comics that are like huge internet followings and like the lines wrapped around the building. I wouldn't know who they are. Right. But then you got these like killers on the weekend, not the weekends, it's different now, but you got these guys that came up in the game but don't have social media presence and are just killers and can't fill the place.

Why do you think that is? Just because social media plays such a big role. Mm-hmm. But they're great comics and sometimes you get a comic in there that is, that is, that's, that's, that's, you know, that. It has a huge following, but is not good at comedy. Yeah. But then that hurts comedy. He goes, I went to Zanis one time, and it was this guy that he didn't know what he was doing.

I mean, some guys that can fill it up will do like a Q&A. Yeah, but is there a time and a place for that, though, like doing crowd work and working on stuff? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, we had Steve Byrne on here, and he says he goes on. Legend. He'll just go and play, do 25 minutes and just do. Just crowd.

Crowd work. Yeah. The whole time. Yeah. He's one of the, if you ever seen Steve Byrne do it. when it's going. Yeah. Nothing better.

Would you say there's guys out there that came on the scene real fast, but they're not good comics if it's bad for comedy? Oh, yeah. What makes it bad for comedy just because somebody saw their show once? They're like, comedy's not for me. Okay, so doing a live stand-up show is, I've been doing stand-up for 12 years. I became popular, like, five years ago. So I had seven years of, is that math, right?

I had seven years of, like, going on the weekends and the bars and, like, getting honing the craft and making a good show sometimes guys pop off doing the skits yeah and then I had no idea that was that kind of a word I'm so sorry for saying that yeah yeah it's kind of like never again never again it's like I'm not gonna make another joke because I feel like I'm kind of on thin ice here on this no no you're this has been outstanding I really I've really enjoyed this especially because you don't like we never really like talked yeah we have yeah yeah and so we sit there once or twice but yeah and then he gets pink eye yeah on his own on his own accord like just decided that's tough it's into a mic

microphone on Saturday has Pink Eye on Monday. I think only we let him off the hook for that because he has a kid. Otherwise, if you're a single dude out there with Pink Eye, that's tough. Well, you're doing some crazy stuff. Yeah, that's tough to justify. I think that with the kid thing, I think you can get it that way. You have kids? I don't have any kids. I had two kids. I've never had pink eye. I've also. Yeah, but it's also Will's not here to defend himself. I'm not going to do that. This is what I was thinking on the way over is like, like we, there's like a lot of like celebrity pastors and stuff like that. Like a lot of pastors are becoming

famous now. And like they don't, like if they are not preaching that Sunday morning, they won't like advertise because they want, because if that pastor's not there, nobody comes to church because they want to hear the personality. So like,

does Will, like, does he want this episode to do worse? So he... Good question. Or does, if he's like, do this episode was like double in views, we're good with that. Like, He doesn't, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I don't know. Or does he want it to be like marginally worse but still charting?

Does do well though. He doesn't want it to be like double. I think regardless this was going to do well because you're on this spot. I'm saying out of pocket. There's your flowers. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think, I mean, I could sit here and pretend like Will Wood care, but I don't think he would, dude.

He seems. Yeah, he's doing it. We're all just trying to push the ship in the right direction. So, like if somebody like, like Jimmy Fallon's like out for two weeks and somebody hosted the Tonight Show and they're like, dude, you kind of hope ratings are down. Yeah. You would, in that situation, if you have any kind of ego. If it was an individual, if this was an individual sport and I was, it was like, you know,

just my podcast. And then I had to get out and Will came in. And Will was not in the podcast game or anything like that. And it just crushed it. Yeah. It's so funny. He's this. He's that.

And you're kind of like, and I should let him just have it, I guess. Just let him do it. Yeah. Like if you're not there, because like we had, we used to go to a church. in L.A. were the past, it was like Justin Bieber's church. And the very, very... He owned the church or... He owned the church?

No, he went to the church. It was like, you know, the Kardashians would come there and all the time. It was very... Cross point. But in L.A. Yeah, but, like, it's like cross point, but like real celebrities go there. Yeah. It's a little different, yeah.

Yeah. That's just was a weird... That was just a unnecessary. No need for that. No need. You pulled a little bit of truth there because national is like that. Come on. Come on. Yeah.

There's a lot of people out here thinking there's somebody that they're not. Tough. It's a tough. It is a tough look. But at the same time, sometimes you got to pretend like you're somebody until you become somebody. I mean, I guess. But like the biggest people in this town are like the kindest people ever. Yeah.

You see Brad Paisley. And who's the biggest in this town? Swift was here last night. It's probably Swift. She didn't live here. I don't think. I think she does. Maybe she does.

There was always rumors floating around. She lives wherever. She lives wherever she wants. He lives wherever she wants. Yeah. I don't know. Probably Swift. I've never.

Kid Rock. I don't know. I mean. I don't know if Bob would be a good example. I mean, politically, he's on the right page. Yeah. I'm just joking, dude. I'm just joking, though.

These are jokes, by the way. Yeah. No, they're not, dude. Before we got on here, dude, he took his, he took his MAGA hat off. He's like, oh, I'll do this thing. The guy makes a lot of sense. Yeah. It's all, I'm all connecting the dots now, dude.

I had a big flag in his truck as he pulled up, too. Came out, made a big change. Everybody, like, in. Well, hold on to stay on that. Who is the biggest person in Nashville, you think? I think he's in Texas I think Garth Brooks is in Texas Also Alex if you want to speak

Get the microphone Yeah You should know absolutely Garth might be it But yeah you're right A lot of people you mean Darth Brooks at like TGI Friday

He'd be like what's up dude Yeah There's no like the LA LA celebrity is different These people Like if you saw Brad Payton But they've all come through They've all come through Zanies

Keith Irvin Nicole Kim and Brad Pace Luke Brian They're all like what's up did That's awesome All of them Yeah, all of them. I love that.

There are all, yeah. Is there a reason why you decided to leave L.A.? Well. Does what we just talked about have anything to do with you leaving L.A.? That in the politics, apparently. I thought that's what you said. Yeah, yeah. No, well, politics and the celebrities.

So we would get, like, we would get, like, booking requests to, like, and we started, I moved here because we started touring by bus. So, like, we have, we had the whole. Southeast region. Yeah. That was you. You can go, you can go, you can do, like, national. Louisville, Lexington, Chattanooga, Augusta, Macon, Atlanta, Birmingham, Huntsville, like, every 90 miles is like a new market.

That's a good brand. That's only like three, that's like right here. Yeah. Like we did, we'll do nine, ten cities in Florida. Just Jacksonville, Panama City, mobiles in Alabama. But we go like, if you go west of Kansas City, we have six markets total. You got L.A., Las Vegas, Phoenix, Salt Lake. Portland?

Yeah, we do well in Portland. Sacramento. That's it. So it's much better to be in this area. Yeah, just because this is a true fact that you guys can look it up, but somebody told me, Nashville, Tennessee is a 10-hour drive to 75% of the population of America, of America. Because you can get all the way almost up to like New York. City, but you can get all the way up to Ohio, Pennsylvania.

I think that you'd have to get to New York City for that to make sense. Maybe. It's New York City in L.A., right? And then Chicago, well, you get to Chicago. You can get to Chicago. You can get all the way to Kansas City. You can't get to Dallas, but you get it all the way down and then all the way over. You still busing or you fly?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just out there in the bus grind. Do you have a tour bus? Yeah, we got home this morning. Really? Yeah, from where do we come from? Fort Myers. Does that, does that grind never get to you?

You're like, man, I wish I did something different. Oh, uh, no. Not, I love the doing it. Yeah. But I say, it's probably similar to football. They're like, yeah, the, yeah, the game's awesome, obviously. But like, come, when do you have to decide if you're going to do it again? What month?

Play football again? Yeah. I can take as long as I want. No, like, what a, like, like, JJ Redick would always talk about that. He goes, it's awesome to like, but I'm, I got to get my, like, are you, are we going to do this again? Oh, when you can go play games? The season. Like, the season ends in June.

Who, who season? If you're in the finals. NBA finals. Okay. All right. Okay. You said football and he said, you know,

we're going to have to go to school here for a second. Okay. Season ends in the middle, beginning of February. Yeah. If you're on a, let's say you're on a one year. If you,

all right, you look at your wife, you look at your, like, am I going to, are we doing this again? Yeah. It depends on injury. March, April.

Yeah, because April, like April 20th. Yeah, okay. It's usually when OTA start. And that's the, and when's the first game?

End of September. Beginning of September. September, like 11th. So everybody loves the games. I love performing. Obviously, it's awesome. But you go, all right. And there's a lot of country artists like in this town that are not like making like money. Like money, money. They go to keep like another album, another. It's just if you're not obsessed with it, you're done. So creatively, like, what kind of toll does that take on you when you're writing new jokes? Because I'm sure, I'm sure you were the funniest kid at the picnic growing up. Like you're always. always telling jokes and always had something. When you started, there's probably a nervous energy of just going up there. That last 15 minutes of the sermon and kind of just having a good time.

Got a heater in my back pocket. At what point did it get serious for you? And you're like, I got to really write stuff. I mean, I think when you start producing specials. Yeah. So then you produce an hour special.

When everyone comes to your show, like I got a special coming out this month, actually. And then, so hopefully the whole show is new. So if you watch the special, buy tickets, that hour has to be new from what you just saw on video. So anytime you release something on video, it's now cut from the live show. Because they don't want to see comedy's different from music in that way. You go see music play the hits.

Yeah, probably all the ones I know. We've all heard that we can sing a long way. Come to a comedy show. It's like, if I hear any joke I've already heard before, the element of surprise is all we have. That's why comics are big on like not 11 the cell phones and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, does that, is that like a worldwide thing with the cell phones? It costs a lot of money to do that.

Put it in the... Yeah, like Bill Burr did Fenway Park with the... I go... I mean, it was like two hours before everyone was seated because everyone has to put their cell phone in a... They give you this magnetic pouch. And they click it closed so you can still like... So that nobody wants there.

But who's going to watch a grainy cell phone video from a screen in the middle of Fenway Park? You know, sometimes you don't do that. I've watched a bootleg film. Have you? Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. People getting up and walking over and you're watching the middle of the film.

Like, get the hell out of the way. Well, the problem of comedy, now. is like all TikTok is just crowd work. Something going bad. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Somebody yelling out something out of pocket.

And then it's like, oh, like a prepared, like planned bit of social commentary is like, what a loser got like prepared? But you just go out there like, where do you live? And it's like, oh. And it's like, is this your wife? No, it's my sister. Or whatever. Yeah. Whatever that is.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of that. Well, that's the easiest because people don't understand comics don't want to burn material.

So you don't want to put it. Oh, so you have to have something holstered at all time. You don't want to post it because if you post it, they go, that's hilarious they come to the show. They don't want to see that. So if you have an iconic bit, you're hoping that doesn't make it to the internet. Yeah, but isn't there guys like, I always a big Dane Cook guy, which I feel like, every time I talk to a comedian, they're like, oh, Dink Cook. No. No.

Dan Cook has done a lot for comedy. Yeah? Yeah. So you're a pro Dane Cook guy. Well, yeah. I wasn't, but then I found out he voted Republican, so I was like, you know, I'm just kidding. No more. That's the last one.

No, no, it's not. That's the last one. But he would, he'd have, like, the Kool-Aid guy joke. And then, like, his next special would come out and he'd be like, say something about the Kool-A-9, everyone would just fucking lose their mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You do, like, if it's iconic like that, I mean, like, Brian Regan used to do, like, an encore. And then he'd go yell out old bits.

Yeah. I mean, you can kind of do it that way, if you have, like, transcendent ones. Mm-hmm. But you don't really want to I mean if you do in a bit like too long and people start like you can tell a joke has like diminishing returns if you're like obviously a lot of things are timely

so if you're talking about any COVID jokes now or like bro. What are we doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of them are done like

in a way that like about the side effects two years later or if you're talking about this guy driving his car and he was wearing a mask. What's like? dude, you're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that bit crushed.

That horse is dead. But that horse was running so hard. Yeah. So you're like, I'm gonna just, I'm gonna keep betting on this horse. Yeah, keep going until the wheels just absolutely fall off. That's like, that's like, a lot of athletes are probably similar. Like, dude, this was the move. I don't know.

This worked for me for so long. And you're like, dude, you got to, yeah. There is like, for my position, it'd be like being a pitcher. Like, you got to sit there. You have your fastball of how you handle a pass picture. And then you kind of play the game. I got like three, four moves. I just keep consistent.

Yeah, yeah. And they know. Yeah. Going in that type of thing. John Smoltz, I'm a big Braves fan and he came out of the bullpen. He's like, I'm going to start. That's a different, that's a different energy for pitching six and a half seven innings to like I'm going to just come throw some heat out of the bullpen and close this game.

Or rip it them. Yeah. Or Kobe switched his game up when he got older. A lot of people have adjusted their game. Yeah, you got to. Yeah. Sometimes, I mean, all the time catches up with all of us. Well, so like a lot of, so Dan Cook, so you go when he was, me, he was.

me and Nate Parguetzi had this conversation. Is it so hot here right now? My God. I just rocked to interrupt. I just rocked his hoodie. I know. I was looking at just. I can't imagine what he's going through right. I could. I could. That's not, is that my part of it. You want me to open it up for you? I don't know. Is it hot? That's right. That's right. But that's not part of this podcast. What a horrible time to interrupt you. Oh, no, I'm good. It's just lead paint. We'll be all right. Yeah. That was Jack's joke. That was Jack's joke. Oh, yeah. Well, all right. So, Dan Cook. If he goes, hey, dude, I was like, when I was like, when I was like, when he was doing arenas, you're making all these jokes about, like,

you know, drinking, or I don't know what he's talking about, drinking or hooking up with girls in college and all these stuff, but you got to understand, well, those people now have mortgages and kids in school, and, like,

they have, they are, so you have to go with them. Right. And you guys, for the pod, you're different. The stuff you were talking about at the beginning, now you have kids and families,

and it's, It's because your fan base is developing too. Yeah, they're changing. So you should change with them. Yeah. So it's not like if you were doing that. It's just like friggin the boys and we're at Whiskey Road. Like, dude, you got a family, bro.

Yeah. That you should also develop. Probably think about being a little more growing up then boys. So we got to, yeah. We should stop doing. We should stop doing what he just said. Yeah. They're good.

Yeah. Yeah. Let's get some strippers in here. All right. Well, we got to, yeah. At some point, we got to stop it. Dan took gun on stage right now and he was sitting there at 49, 50. however old he is.

He'd start to be talking about bitches. Yeah. Like, dane. Like, what are we doing? Dude. Someone pulls him over the side, like whispers in his ear. Yeah, he's like, hey, dude. That's got to be tough, dude.

If you... Because if you... The thing that always worked for you is now... It's outdated. And you go, what? Yeah, but you... But that's everybody, I guess. Like, a lot of...

Like, and I love... I'm probably one of the biggest fan. It was like Brad Paisley. He's like... You brought him up a lot. Have I? Yeah. I love Brad Paisley.

Yeah. Have I already. Ready? Oh, yeah, once. Okay. He sings this song like, uh, like, well, like, alcohol. It's like really like jingly, like country. Absolutely. And when you were, when we were like, when country was like not, you were like this is incredible. Like, uh, what's that song? I'm still a guy. I'm gonna miss her. I'm gonna miss. Is that Brad Paisley? That's right. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Like those like, you know, fishing, right? The girls are to leave them. And now you look at like, like, like, like, like, like, like, Morgan is doing and what Ernest and Hardy and Jellyroll.

And it's like, the genre has changed. So guys are talking about like real things and like you feel like you know them and addiction and struggles with. And you're like, dude, this is like, I feel like I'm at church right now. And it's like, oh, what happened? Like, because the whole thing changed. Comedy's the same. Yeah. It's like, bain, bang, bang, bang, bang.

In like the 90s, like, well, that doesn't. Right. That's the, we don't. You listen to old comedy. You're like, this isn't as funny as I... Yeah, like, what's the guy that had to, like, an arrow through his... I don't care talk. Steve Harvey, no, Steve Martin.

Steve Harvey, that would be a wild bit. That would be wild. And he was, like, doing arenas. Yeah. He was doing stadiums with these, like, hokey, like, bit. And you're like, well, that's what comedy was. Yeah. And so the whole, the whole, all art is always developing.

When it comes to comedy, like, are you trying to always look towards the future and see, like, how things are going to change? You kind of just stay with what you know and you see. Because you do a lot of observation. and stuff. You see stuff. This is funny and this is why it's funny. From day to day. You talk about, yeah, you talk about like, you're like a joke about like the guy,

Derek Stroop is the guy that comes out on the road with me and he's been doing this joke for the last two weeks about about Bud Light. It's just been murder. Yeah. But that's going to be. In like three months, it's going to be over. I would, I mean, I would say easier than that.

Yeah. I would say maybe a month. Right. So you go, but you have to talk about what everyone else also is on their subconscious. If you mention something that everybody doesn't know about, like if you go, dude, a lot of comics get in trouble a lot with TV shows.

Like, if you're a Game of Thrones guy, you think everybody is a Game of Thrones person because you're in it. And then you're like, dude, freaking, I don't know the show, Calisi, and everybody goes, what? And you go, oh, shoot. And that's what a lot of the LA comics, they live in L.A. or the Austin comics,

and they're like, dude, this is killing. and then they go on the road to Wichita. Yeah. And it happens. On a table in Wichita. Yeah, they go, we just make, we don't know what this is. Right. Yeah, we don't have no.

HBO in Wichita? No. No chance. They don't even have the internet, bro. Yeah. Barely. They barely got it out there. Yeah.

But having like, like, I feel like religion. I mean, your whole stand up in Birmingham like that, you can, you can sit on that for a while. Easy, yeah. You know, that's like, that's been written. That's been around for a while. Religion has been around for a minute. Yeah.

out. But everybody knows. Let's see. Now, everybody knows what, let's say of, like, Christianity. Everybody in here. Does everybody know who David and Goliath is? Yes. Obviously.

Does everybody know what Noah's Ark is? Yes. Yes. And these are religious or not, I have no idea, but we just know it because I don't know how. Yeah. We just, how do you know about that? You just grow up and people tell you. Yeah.

You just, yeah. I feel like everybody at some point's been to church. Right? At some point. And you know, what else do you know about it? They meet on Sunday. You got to pay. They got to pay money.

Allegedly. Yeah, allegedly. Depends. There's a preach. I don't talk about anything that's too. Like, I have this joke about, this is like the most in-depth Bible joke, and you guys will probably all get it.

I go, everybody's naming their kids after Bible characters. Like, my name's John, named after John the Baptist. Me. And I go, I don't, like, I go, this guy baptized Christ. Like I used to coupon at Wendy's yesterday. Yeah. I don't, I'm not. Right.

And I go, my nephew's named Ezekiel. And like Ezekiel was a warrior. Like in the, like my nephew, Ezekiel, extreme peanut allergy. So if you don't know who that character is, you get the joke. Yeah. You're like, okay, he's like the. But there's a level of an explanation too. I mean, but if you said Ezekiel to me, I'd be like, yeah, it's a dope name.

You have no idea. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like if you go to like a trying to think, if you went to like a like earthquake, You know what earthquake is? Like the natural disaster? No.

Okay. Earthquake is, it's a good, that's the same thing. Same thing is Gutfeld. This guy knows nothing, dude. Yeah, this is, I don't even know why I'm here right now. Look up earthquake. You should have just done this show by yourself. A comedian, a comedian.

He's a comedian. He's one of the greatest of all times. But earthquake is a, a urban comic. Only black audiences. Right. Like, Kevin. It's good for you the way your podcast has been going, the flaking a black guy here.

Yeah, I tried to ease it. Yeah. He's my favorite. He's my favorite. He's my favorite. comedian really. You're out here like sprinkling that. African American. Like sell me. Yeah.

Yeah. You get it. Yeah. So urban comic. So, so if he he'll sell out a show everywhere. And this is like I would say Dave Chappelle or like Kevin Hart is like for everybody. Right. They've, they're not for so you got gay comics. You got Jewish

comics. You got Muslim comics. That's an urban comic. You got there's comics that are like they're in their 60s and they're just for, if you went to his show, there would be things like my show that you were like, I kind of get it. But if you were in that culture, like, if you were the core demographic, you'd be like, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen.

Right. And that kind of goes back to what you were saying about how like, it's not for, like, or he would be like, yo, you know, I'm not got it. I was going to. Yeah. That's good. First catch of the day. Whoa.

Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. He goes, hey. Like he would do. And you go, I don't really know. Exactly.

Yeah. Like, the black community loves this, like this, the little Einstein's. You know what that is? No. You got to start saying shit that I know.

No, because I'm looking dumb or dumber as this podcast. You know what that song is? Yeah. Okay, what is it? Whoa, dude. Hey, Mitch. Okay, Little Einstein.

I went to, I went to this that, like, it was like a, like, it was called the, I went to it to like, it was in my neighborhood. It was called the Universe Soul Circus, S-O-U-L.

Yeah. It's like the black circus. I don't, That's okay to say. I mean, yeah. It's called the Universe Soul Circus. Brother, you, this is, you're saying the words. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's go, that's what it's, it's like, it's like, and they came out to little Einstein's and the, yes. And, and the whole, yes, and the whole, everybody in there, I was the only white guy in there, everybody was going nuts. Yeah. Like, that was their theme song. And I was like, I don't, I wasn't a part of this. Right.

I didn't know what the song was. And everybody's like, right? So everybody has their, like, all the songs that I sang at the top of my special. If you're like in it, you're like, I can't believe he knows us. Yeah. And that's all great comedy. Yeah, get in the audience to. Of your people.

Now, if you're, if you. Your people. Everybody has their own. Yeah. Just turn into a pot of I'm nitpick every little thing you say. Yeah. Yeah. On that.

On that. Yeah. I already been canceled, dude. Dude, black culture is really the best culture when it comes. Because the laughs are harder. It's more theatrical. You ever had a black guy like in the airport like compliment your shoes? No, you see what I wear.

No black guy. I've had dudes crush me for these. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I feel like I wear those because one, I've had them for so long, but also I think it's funny. You know, all your teammates are black. Most of them, yeah. They think you're cool? Hmm.

It's a hit in this situation. Sometimes. You know, the best compliment you can get from a guy is, is just, hey man, Luan, you're pretty cool for a white guy. Last name. Yeah, you hit the Luan with it and you're like, you're pretty cool for a white guy.

Cool with us. Oh, I fucking made it. Yeah, you made it, dude. Yeah, the black comedy, I did, you know, Bill Bellamy. Yes. Remember that? Like, Bill Bellamy was like,

what out? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I played with a Russell Bellamy one time. Yeah, there you go. I don't think they're related. Well, that's, you can't say that.

I don't think because they're, yeah, I'm just kidding. He was, I was like coming up in comedy. He was coming to my local comedy club and I don't know what I was like very young, hungry. Like I was like, I want to go. I was like, hey, can I do like a guest set in front of you, which is pretty common? And he goes, yeah, you can do five minutes on my show. It's all black. Okay.

So I'm like, and I have never, I have never, I have no idea what I'm doing. Yeah. And I thought it would be funny if I dressed, like I dressed like in like khakis and like a button up. Like I thought new balance shoes like that real white dad. Yeah, to try to be more. And I was like I was kind of going to. And I was really, really nervous. There's 300 people sold out.

And everybody's there for Bill Belamy. And I go, they go, our next comic is a local comic John, Chris. And I woke up there. And I was like, yeah, this isn't really my demographic either. Yeah. they started dying. And then I go, I'm only going to be up here. I was doing like five minutes because I got to get back to being a waiter at the Toby Keith bar.

Yeah. It was across the street. And they were dying. Yeah. And I was like, yeah. And I was like, and I did my whole set and it was great. Everybody liked it. And then I got confident.

Uh-oh. And I know. I know. Yeah. And then the next show, they were like, we loved it. Like, come do the 930 show. Yeah. And I literally walked out like, ha-ha.

And they were like, no. Get the fuck out of here. Oh, dude. Yeah. Get this guy out of here. Confidence is a killer. Immediately, dude. I was like, dude, I'm shit.

Like black people love me. They're like, no, we don't. Yeah, get the fuck out of here. That first group's like, that guy's like, that guy, dude. Get him out of here. I was like immediately like, what's up? And they were like, bye, dude. I can't imagine there's a lot of black guys at your show.

Depends, you know. They got to, yeah, no, there's not. Wichita. Wichita, Burmah. It depends on the market. Yeah. But they do, it is, a black crowd will take you to hire, heights than a white crowd ever.

Elaborate on that. Ever could. Like if a black crowd loves you, they're standing up. They're running out of the room. Like, just way more energy. And that everybody will say that. This is all facts. This is all facts. This is all facts. They're all facts. Yeah. I would watch like Kat Williams. Oh my gosh.

He would tell jokes and people be like falling in the aisles and shit like that. That's the cat. Yeah. You see that energy. Even if you're watching it on old YouTube. It comes through. Yeah. And you don't even know what the joke is. My favorite comedian is Cat Williams. Is it?

That's why I started comedy, The Pimp Chronicles. I saw it when I was in Arizona at a house party. Great a state in the union. Somebody was watching and I go, what is this? And my dad was a preacher and I was like, this man is captivating

this audience like I've never seen before my entire life. And I go, I want to do that. Have you ever felt a situation like that before? Yeah. Or you've like, man, I really just fucking took these people to tell you. That's got to be the best feeling in the world, making people laugh.

Nothing better, man. It is. the live show, I mean, you spend 22 hours in Hampton Inn in Louisville. You know, like, this is brutal, but that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. We wouldn't be out here if it, if,

if it wasn't for, the live show is just so, so intoxicated. I can't imagine. It's unbelievable. We do, we do like a small live show. We did a little spring tour. Yeah, yeah. And even if you get like a giggle.

Yeah, that feels good. I didn't go. Well, I started. I started, like Jerry. Seinfeld has told this story about what's your what's your vibe on Jerry Seinfeld? I like Jerry Seinfeld. You do.

Because I've only heard negative things. Oh, about him as a person? I never met him. I never met him. I love, I love the show. Really? I love a show. And I think what he's done for comedy is it helped a lot of people.

Paved a lot of roads for a lot of people to come behind him. And he's a guy that's meticulous about writing and working. What do you say, go and finish your thought about Jerry and I'll try to remember this question. But he said Jerry. Well, he said when he was on his, he's told the story famously, he was on his story. stoop in his backyard with him and his buddy when he was like six and he they were eating milk and cookies is his story not mine you're eating milk and cookies and jerry said something so funny that the kid spit his milk and cookies out on to and he's like i want to do this the rest of my

life really it was so and it wasn't like now the shows are four and five and six thousand people but when when it was during covid and there was like 60 it was it was just as you know what i'm saying It's not, it's just, just making people to laugh. Making them laugh is still like you live for it. It's the same. Yeah, you hope there's more people and you're making more money. But that just makes it more complicated. This is like, what about it makes it more complicated? This is more things that go through. Well, yeah, there's agents and managers and there's a lot of stress about like ticket sales. And like, there's a lot of people to pay. A lot of people to pay and a lot of people that are, you know. It's tough looking at a top member and then seeing after everything happens. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we're like, oh, we're like, oh, oh, we're like, oh, oh, oh, we're. Oh, we're. Oh, oh, oh, we're like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, killing it. You're like, oh, yeah. We're doing, yeah, but it's, there's a lot of, you just started because the Jerry Seinfeld type feeling. You just wanted to make your buddy laugh and then it turned into your agent. It was like, well, you should, I mean, we, we had a meeting about like taxes or, I don't know, like, this is not why. Yeah. There's not why a lot of comics burn it all down and they can't.

A lot of people have podcasts, but you have to have this back-end knowledge of advertisers and you got to pay these people and you got HR and you got to figure the other side out. Creative has to kind of figure the other side out manageably enough. Or place people that now are. Yeah, yeah. But it's just more overhead. It's just more overhead. It's impossible to be an artist because now you have to do the other stuff.

Yeah. But if you become more well-rounded, it makes life a whole lot easier. That way easier. You don't have to stress about what you don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But at the beginning, you did everything. You bought the mics, I'm sure at the beginning. I bought, Will bought the mics.

I bought the bus. I bought the bus. And paid for like all this little soundproofing thing that hardly works. We always get complaints about our audio. People are like, hey. But now you got somebody else to do that. Yeah, boys in the back. I got, you know what? I never noticed. I never noticed. I didn't know the thing about the teeth until I see you up close. Yeah. They're nice. What do you think? They're nice. I said. I noticed it outside when I saw you. I appreciate that. Yeah. It's like a fully loaded bea. I don't let them give you heat about. No, no, no. Nice set of teeth. Listen, I look at the mirror every morning. smile. Turn off the lights I can still see my teeth. It's a great feeling.

Well, the teeth, that'll be the one thing. If you want to take, if you want to go 10 years younger as a guy, I'd go teeth. First. If I'm going to go 10 years younger,

depending on the issue, go hair. Hair, yeah. Yeah. If you start to bald or anything like that, that's the first thing you fix. Yeah.

But then teeth next. But now it's not really a thing. You know, like a jawline. You will fix it. jaw line? You go out a little bit of a... No, dude, I can't do that. I'll do a little something. Like, I've done Botox before, stuff, my wife. You go with the tan. Yeah.

You get a little tanning. Oh, yeah, you'll get a little talk. But doing a little that ain't it. That ain't it. That ain't for me. I'd rather just look like a thumb the rest of my life than have to do something like that. Well, you know, like, people are very like, like, Portnoy just says like, dude, I did my hair. Yeah. Like, that's like the way

to do it. Like... 100%. It's like... The less skeletons in the closet's better. Like, when people do stuff. You've seen Brian Rlecker? Yeah. Exactly. Yes. He went from being the shiniest head look like Mr. Clean.

Yeah. And now he's just got little, tiny little guys up there. Good for him. Good for him. You just got to get it done. Who's going to be like, wow, like nobody. Yeah. And if you come out in front of it.

Right. That's all about eight-miling yourself. Like, if you insult yourself enough, yeah, eight-mile yourself. We'll just kind of leave you alone. You can keep that if you want. You should use that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

But if you do use it, I do live in a trailer with my mom. Yeah. Oh, we got nothing. Yeah. You got nothing else. to say. Oh, he's got nice teeth? That's what you got to say. Yeah. You've really nice straight teeth. Thanks. I paid for

that. I'll take it. Yeah. Works really hard to get these teeth. Thank you. You were talking about... If you sneak out of like a... Like the paparazzi sees you coming out of the hair clinic and you're trying to... Trying to hide it? Yeah. Then they're kind of... You're one of those guys in the airplane from Turkey with that half cul-de-sac. Have you seen those videos? No. There's videos. Apparently guys will just go to Turkey.

Yeah. And they'll have like bandages over their head and they'll have like just a cold-a-cac because it's like way cheaper there and way more effective. Oh, really? Pull that up, Jackie. Oh, turkey. Oh, yeah. Yeah, those aren't hats they're wearing. Oh, really?

That's a bald guy. Just doing his thing. Gotta get in front of it, brother. Yeah, you got to get in front of it. What's too much? What's too much to realize there's really nothing you can do? Well, I mean, in terms of appearance. Yeah.

I mean, so. You're giving you another opportunity here. I think. What's too much to you? Leaving the door open. Yeah. I think you can do anything with your hair. You can do anything with your teeth.

I mean, but you don't want to go like, like there's always the, the, like, if you see something, are they doing it like ironically or seriously? Like, if you go down to outside of Huntsville, Alabama, we got a lot of fans on there, the guy comes with a mullet or he goes, oh, that's, that's a sincere mullet. Or it's like Theo or Morgan or like, or like, earnest. Like, that's like a, that's an ironic mullet. Yeah. Like crocs.

They're playing into it. Yeah, crox. You were like, oh, are you like seriously wearing crox? Or are you wearing crox because like LOL, these are nerdy. Yeah. I'm doing it ironically. You're like, what side are they on? Right.

Yeah. So I think of it. But hair's okay. Air's okay. All right. Yeah, I think you're good. Saved it, boys. Let's call.

Saved it. Yeah. I don't know if you see this little Mississippi waterfall out going to the back of the head. Yeah. He conveniently takes his head off. Yeah. Well, you were talking about Mullets. I wanted to make sure you knew.

who you were talking to. You know? I knew it. I didn't want to put your foot in your mouth. What are you doing it ironically? I guess so. Yeah, it's like a mullet. It's tough for me to like, yeah.

I got to town. But also I kind of did. It was like, I was at an online trip with the boys in Vegas and I won. Align trip. And so, and Will was getting, uh, and I go up there and I was, you know, a couple drinks in. I was like, going to. You know, high and tight.

I'm keeping it at all 2023. Yeah. At least. Got to. Yeah, but you can, here's what you can't do. Okay. If you wear like a cargo shorts or something like, you can't be like, right? Yeah. You just got to rock it. Because that's you now. You got to commit to it. It's the whole ensemble. You can't be like if you go out and no one notices the thing and makes it, it doesn't, you've got to commit.

Right. You were like, oh, like it's like a costume mullet. Like, look at me. No, you can't do that. It's never funny too when you point out what you're doing. You just give it like, it has to be seen. Yeah. I had a bowl cut. Yeah. I had a strong bow. Ironically. Or you looked that up. I had a John Chris bowl cut. my family's like Amish. Do you spend a lot? No, they're not. The family's Amish? There it is right there.

Look at that. That's me. Last year. That's not you. Yes, it is, dude. That's me. Look at that with that John Chris Facebook video there. Go back.

Go back. Yeah. That one right, they're on the left. It's a video. Down one. That one, too. Yeah, that right one. That's a video. That's me.

That's not. You're not doing that on. on accident. That's it on purpose. That's dead serious. Look at that, dude. That is not you. It's it is. No, it's not. It's a legendary cut, bro. You look like the girl from the Incredibles.

What the fuck is that? That's what everybody said. Dude. That's what everybody said. But I had during like the end of quarantine because my, I was like, well, let me just cut one like that because my hair would go, my hair would go like that. That's an Amish. My extended family is Amish.

I don't believe you. What do you mean? Yeah. Well, it's kind of appropriation, I guess, but it's my people. But if it's your extended family, that's not an appropriation. You're part Amish. We go down there for like for all holidays and stuff. We spend it with the Amish.

Yeah. Put the electronics off. Build a house. Yeah. Raise a barn. Raise a barn. Have you really spent time with the, are you being 100% serious? Because I can definitely fall into this trap.

No, no, no. All right. So my great, my great grandparents were acting living Amish. Yeah. That's like. Talking about horse, buggies, the whole thing.

No car. Enders. Yes. Got it. Yeah. Like farming, churning butter, all that.

Okay. So my parents were what's called Mennonite. The Mennonite is like, they're still, they have electricity, but they all,

like, we're very, like, pacifist. Don't believe in war. Don't believe in, like, modern medicine.

Like, kind of like, everything's very, like, healthcare and we don't believe in that. Yeah. It's a,

and then my parents met at Mennonononononon college. and then they kind of not abandoned. Menonite college? Yeah. You could just go there and get sick? Like what happens?

Well, that's a good joke. I appreciate that. Yeah, so you guys, yeah. Yeah, so they met there and they kind of, then my dad started like a non-denominational church. Okay. But our family, our origin. They went to Mennonite church or school.

Like, this really isn't for us. Yeah, so the Mennonite... leave it, there's not coming back. Oh. And that, some people would say we're border on. Bolt. Yeah. That's where my mind went too.

Yeah. So if you, so if you're Mennonite, or if you're Amish at 18, you go on what's called Rumspringer. You know what that is? I think Rumspringer, yes,

I do. Let me try to explain it because I have to salvage whatever I've done the show. It's when you, like, go and like, do regular people stuff for a while. And then you come back, right?

Yep. Is that fair to say? I don't want to sound like, I don't want to sound insensitive, But that is, they... My people, very offensive. Yeah. But no, you're right.

But they're not going to watch. They're not going to see it. So it's kind of all good. You know? Yeah, yeah. Kind of like the most fair people to make fun of. They like, like, they go do it like heathen sinful. Don't say regular people.

Make them sound like the worst. Yeah. And make the homage people sound good. Okay. So they go and do demonic shit. And then they come back. Okay. Got it.

A couple of satanic rituals. They ripped back to that. That wasn't it. Yeah. More like, more like get an iPhone and like get on Tinder. but yeah so anything goes during what's it called rum springer

yeah look at the definition of that RU M springa is I think that's how you said yeah found that out Jack with an A on the end there's an A at the end you missed that joke but all right no I didn't miss it it got there a little late but I figured that out

Brum Springer uh yeah no one's gonna get that joke but that's unbelievable there it is right of passage during adolescence yeah hey hey there you put that down dude Take that down. Amish teens smoking a cigarette.

Crazy. There's a show called Letterkenny and they do a whole episode on this. Oh yeah. There you go. Yeah, yeah. So basically, traditional activities like volleyball swimming and ice skating. Oh, yeah. Get loose.

Ice skating. So picnics and hiking. Yeah, what's up? That's awesome. Parties, let's go. So these kids go, how long do they leave on Run Sheper? All right. Well, I shouldn't speak on behalf of the community, but the Amish, the, their,

once the internet kind of came, like you could, like, they had it going for them when there was no, like, you couldn't see what like other cities were like doing. Yeah. Yeah. So that kind of like. And then Facebook hit, MySpace hit.

Honestly, to be fair, a lot of religion, like once the internet and you're like, wait, what are they doing over there? Yeah. And you're like, wait, what are we doing? Right. Like, and there's a lot of like, if you watch those like LDS documentaries, they were like, they have to like control the kind of information. because then that's how you kind of get loose.

So there's a lot of, we do shows and like Amish people come. You go, how do they figure out about me? So they left at 18, you're kind of free to go. And then traditionally you get a year or two. Oh, wow, you get a long time. But now there's like Amish people that are like 35 and they just haven't like decided yet. They haven't returned.

But no, they haven't left because you have to decide at the end of it. So they're getting loose. with the rules. It sounds really loose. Because you said in the beginning of this, you're like, Amish, when you leave, you're out. Colt. Your words might mind. Okay. But if you, yeah, so they're like, we're like, we're going to lose everybody. Right. If we don't loosen up the, and a lot of religion is like that too now. Like LDS are like, all-D-S are like, all-D-Sor like, we've got to loosen up on some of these rules. Yeah. Or else. Right. It's not, just a new guideline to get into heaven. Yeah, yeah. Right. New book comes out. Like, hey, oh, hey,

listen, boy. I had a joke about that in my show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's all. So it's like, you're like, how does this Amish guy have a cell phone and like, like, He's driving like a Chevy Tahoe. You're like, well, he hasn't made his decision yet to join. Because once you join the church, then you're in control of the bishop. The bishop can say, you can do this or can't do this. But if they say, hey, you have one year and after a year, you have to decide, everybody's going to. They're going to go.

Everybody's going to go. If you're 18 years old and you leave for a year. Do they have, like, get it at an allowance? Are you saving up shekels? So what are we doing? Is that too much? How can I not say stuff? And he's allowed to say that.

No, they're not going to see it. We want to do. What are you talking about? This is where I feel safest. That's the Bible. I actually feel the safest I have this entire podcast. Of all the things you said. You guys should have heard of some of the stuff we had to cut out.

We'll release that. We'll release that as a bonus podcast. We've been it for four hours. No, they don't save up shekels. They're like corn and vegetables and stuff. And then they go and sell it? They just stop off town to town. Well, you go, I mean, you go to like, if you live in, you go to like,

If you live in, like, we do, we sell a lot of shows and like, like, we did a ship Shawana, Indiana. It's like a look up ship Shawana, Indiana. This guy's looking up a lot of stuff. You got Jack working today. Yeah. Shipschuana, Indiana, we sold like 4,000 tickets there. Yeah. That's the town.

There's only 4,000 people. Yeah. More horses than people. Yeah. Yeah. People, because they were like, like, yeah, see, there's the, there's all the Amish people right there. Yeah. They do have some cool fits.

Yeah, they got the style. The face of here that throws me off the most. And you know what? They are, they cannot, you can take a photo of them. But they can't acknowledge, you can't ask them to be in, because they aren't acknowledged technology.

But you can take a photo of them. I don't know why my mind went to Hasbola with that. Wow, dude. What? What? You know what Hasbola is? Of course. We talked about a lot of time on our podcast.

Yeah, Hasbullah's the goat. Yeah, that's what we say. But we were, we were in Vegas and we made. met him. Yeah. And like, some lady wanted to take a photo with him.

He's like, I can't take a photo with you. It's different. He just can't take a photo with women. He's Muslim, not Amish. I know, but I'm saying that we're talking about religion too, right? Dude, unbelievable. You don't think I pieced that together a little bit, Jack? It sounded like you're just saying he doesn't take photo.

No, because he said the photo thing. And I thought, oh, Hasbullah does the same thing. He's been a good pivot. Who knows? He's been quiet for an hour and a half. And that's where he decides to get in. He just got back from Key West. You see his tan?

Yeah, he looks fantastic. He looks great. He's a little tired. Yeah. He's a little tired right now. You're actually making him look a little too much. Well, what's the, what's, it must be a similar belief then. Getting tan?

No, about. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Why can't he take, he can't pose for a photo? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know anything about. The guy that can't post the photos. He's pretty active on the internet.

Yeah. Pretty active on the internet. So these people, you sold 4,000 tickets to the show. Yeah. And they just, like, how did they know if they don't have the internet? It's a little loose. That's what I'm saying. And it's everybody like, you kind of have like a buddy that has like.

Yeah. And I'm kind of like like, I would be there like, I'm not their people obviously, but I'm one of them. I come in peace. Right. Maybe that's a good way to say it. Maybe. Yeah, they know that like I'm not going to like swear or I'm not going to say anything that it's going to make them uncomfortable. But I'm still going to push the limit in terms of like stuff that the thing is funny.

Doing knowing that people knowing you're not going to push the limit or curse and stuff like that. Do you ever feel like that pigeonholes you a little bit in your comedy? Or do you like that where you said? I like it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, clean, healthy fun. Oh, yeah.

I mean, we still go after people pretty hard. Yeah. But the thing about everybody says everything's very like PC now these days. How was, it must be impossible to be a comedian. Mm-hmm. I go, no, dude, it's so easy. Oh. Because it used to be like back in the like Sam Kennison days as an old, like a generation before us comic, three generations before us.

you had to go, like before YouTube, if you said like something about like, you like the stool and you were like having, it was like, that was a woman and you were like, it was like, I can't believe he's doing this. Right. Right. And it was like so foul and so like shocking for someone publicly. If they bang a stool. Yeah. And they were like, this is wild. And then like YouTube came out. And then like we all the darkest, weirdest, weirdest, naughtiest, most everybody's heard it. Yeah. We've heard it all. So it's not. So it's not. that's not really there's nothing shot

like Liza Lampinelli remember she came out she was saying all the like it was why and that comedy is not like now the line is like so backed up to like comedy

all comedy is just crossing the line so the line used to be way over here so you'd have to yeah big leap now all you have to say like like that dude's like probably not a female and it's like ah

because it's right here and all you have to do is just cross it there and that's it. That's all you got to do. And then everybody's like, yeah, it's just crossing the line. And the line is brought way back. Yeah.

So now you just have to be like, I don't know, that kid's got a fake gluten allergy. And it's like, ah, whatever you're like, you're like, I can't believe you just said that out loud. Right. Because you're not, this is, we talk about this of the show. This is the only, at least in my lifetime, where anybody, we just saw it at Barstool with, like, anybody in my crowd can tweet something and get, fired. Yeah. Like, you can get fired from your job by saying about either side, if you're a boss or somebody says, I'm uncomfortable with, so everybody can get fired for saying stuff now. Right. So now it's the easiest for comedy. Yeah. Like, what's his name that they got fired from Barstool? Yeah.

It's like, we didn't really want, we, our hands are kind of tied here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So everybody is like, they come to the comedy show because like, these are the only guys that are, no one else can say it. It was funny. I mean, it's not funny that Mincey got fired, but it's, it's, it's, it's, Like Dave sitting there and be like he didn't do anything wrong. It's like he did say the N word. And that's wrong. But like saying it by accident. Yeah.

I don't know. That was tough because I don't know if you've ever met that guy. I've been around like like probably three, four times. And dude doesn't seem like he's got a mean bone in his body. Yeah. Seems a little like something's wrong. But he's like definitely like he's funny and he's like. Yeah.

Funny guy and engaged guy and it meant no malice. Yeah. Yeah. None. And have you seen the video of him saying it? Uh-huh. You can tell. There was his, he immediately.

easily went into a deep dark hole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody else got, somebody, I know, sports, was it cricket or something, baseball? I fired last week for the same thing. Oh, for real? Oh, did he? But he was talking about. Tony Romo during the AFC championship?

He said it? He didn't say it. But he, he, uh, he thought it. It was the, it was the Chiefs versus the Bengals. And I think the Chiefs run offense, they throw it out. He's got three yyes over here. It was like, he probably, wasn't going to say it, but the fact that that went so viral so fast,

everyone's watching, dude. Everyone's watching. The, like, obsession, it's like peak American culture. It's like to be, like, and that we were talking about that on my, like, because we all went to the, we were in Tampa two nights ago and then we had a show and then we went to Morgan Wallen. Yeah. Best artist. I'm just kidding. Yeah. I do love Morgan. But he's a guy, too. Like, he said it. The same thing. Yeah. But he said it maliciously. toward a white person. Yeah.

And it's like, first off, brother, there's a whole lot of different words you can say. Yeah. Like, you call a white guy a cuck. That's funny. And that's, like, kind of just move on for a lot. Yeah, but in like. And then his, but then his music with the charts. Unfortunately.

Which is wild. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's only because you're like, don't tell me, like, you can have your moral judgment, but don't tell me me what mine should be. Right. And then that, that's what happened in the Morgan situation. But if you, if you, like, in terms of, like, in terms of, like,

Caleb Elliott, who's a comic that opens for us, black, he's like, you don't understand like the black culture. We don't like know Morgan. Like on the, on our list of like priorities to like for like Morgan Wallin saying the is not in the top 1,000. Really? Like I do a bit about about Lady A. I was like, they were like, we're going to stand up against racism. We're going to change our name. Like no black person knows who Lady Antibal. is. Maybe Darius Rucker, maybe. Right.

Like, no, but, like, knew more when he was hooty. Yeah. Imagine, like, going into, like, city council and, like, we're going to stand up for races, three people in skinny jeans and cowboy hats. Right. We're going to change it. Like, what are you going to do it? It's his own bit. Everybody goes, we're going to change

our name from Lady Anabellum to Lady A. And somebody goes, what's the A stand for? You're like, oh, well, still Anabellum. Yeah. No, it's still staying for racism. We just shortened it up a little bit. Like, imagine how disrespectful is that two the African-American community is like you think

like we like I always talk about how like we don't white people like we feel real bad about like racism we don't know what to do we're like I don't know we'll just make J.Krom stay far and black I guess well that's all that it?

They're like what? I know I feel like white people are just that solutions they have for racism are wild it is a wild thought process like no but like there's like we feel some level of like killed. So like we're gonna, we're like, well, us trying to speak for them is the problem.

Like, right. They were like like, like, still doing it. Yeah, still doing it. It's like trying to fix it. It's still the problem. Kind of. We're going to cancel Aunt Jemima. Black people are like, that's my aunt. Now she's unemployed. Shoot. Oh, man. Yeah. You're like, why people are trying to solve racons by doing white. Yeah. Just doing whiter shit. Like the most, the most violent. This is true. The most violent Black Lives Matter protest. were in Portland. You know where no black people live? Portland. Portland.

Right. Look it up. Portland is the third, you know, to look that up, but look it up, Jack. Diversity,

least diverse cities in America. Really? Portland is in the top five. What were the four others? I can't imagine them. Let's look it up. Most white cities or least over. Most white cities.

Hey, don't look, I don't look, I don't want that on my history, bro. It's on Jack's history now. JP's computer. Oh, it says JP's computer. Whatever number one is, John will be there in a week. I think actually my demographics more over here.

I have sold out for me. Some rule spot in Pennsylvania. Oh, Arizona's in there. Yeah, there you go. Oh, these are small cities. Lincoln, Nebraska. Man, if Will could just be here right now, man. That's not surprising at all.

Boise. Yeah, Scottsdale, El Paso. El Paso. Scottsdale is very white. Oh, Paso is Latino. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's border country, El Paso. Look up least diverse cities in America. But yeah, the point is, like, you're like driving down to these rallies and your Subarus and like soy lattes and you're like, we speak on behalf of Black, but you're like, what? It's wild. And it's funny, like when all that stuff was going down, being in the locker room and seeing like, like not all the black guys, but like a lot of the black guys were like, hey, what are we doing?

What do we doing? Yeah, what do we do? Some guys, I mean, not everybody. Everyone would share their stories and everything. And it was nice to hear because I've never been pulled over by the police and go, oh, man. I've never in my life done that. But I thought like every single black guy had to deal with the situation. There's half dozen dudes that literally told me.

Like they weren't publicly saying they're like, I've never been worried getting pulled over. And I'm not saying like it's just. It's just very like, you have another black guy. You know what we're doing right now? What? We're doing it. We're doing it. We're doing it.

We're two white guys in a podcast trying to figure out the issue. Yeah. Is there any six white guys here? Okay, yeah, got I got it. Well, by, like, uh, ladies and gentlemen, we interrupt this episode to bring you yet another ad read and it's going to be great for you. We've already talked about the true classic teas, but now we're going to work on the top of that dome.

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And it'll be traditional on the quote right or whatever like oh here we go with this but my my good one it's a comedian of mine black guy that comes out with me he goes that was actually very helpful like for my daughter who's black is like to have a band-aid that it's like our skin color the band-aids are always our skin color we just and it always she said subconsciously just always taught her that she was other than they're like a band-aid that is her skin is like i go like he's like he's like he's like he's I go, oh, yeah. Yeah, but it's very,

all the white people are like, cancel it. Like, some of the things have been very helpful, very helpful. I mean, that Band-Aid doesn't always fit the skin tone. You get the middle of January. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That Band-A is a little tough. Yeah, Jack's got it. Yeah, Jack's got it right now.

He's got a band-ed color. He's got a different band-ed. He's OG band-aid. He's O-G-Band-D. But, yeah, I can make fun of, like, it's, like, all comedy is, is just, is, is, saying out loud the things people are like, that's it.

Yeah. And if you can verbalize it in a way, they're like, dang, bro. Like, that's hilarious. That's all. And it's very, it's very helpful because everybody, especially during, like, quarantine, when everybody's kind of like, and that was the most, you can't say anything. And when, that's when, like, every comic, every comic is, his shows are sold out now. They're all sold out

Because everybody's like They are the only guys saying it Right They're like you go Like they're like You have to like You can everybody can be like In the airport

Like you gotta be six feet apart In the airport But then when you're sitting right Like A human It goes Yeah What?

But they don't know how to like verbalize this thing Make a joke about it They're like this seems like What? Yeah But they don't Yeah they get mad

Yeah they get mad They don't know how to quite really synthesize that into humor. And humor is very helpful in a way that is like, makes it funny, but like it's also therapeutic. Like I always talk about like my, my girlfriend, like I'm, she thinks I'm a man so I know stuff.

Right. I know, I know nothing. Yeah. She's like showed me her like dashboard like in her car or whatever. He's like the light is on. And I was like, I don't like, it was like a tire. It looked like a tire with like a.

lightning bolt in it. Oh. Yeah, but I was like, I don't think the tire's getting electricity. Like, I didn't know what. Blasor answer. Boss goes, it's the tire pressure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boss was in the military.

He's a real man. Yeah, he's a real man. But it comes from, like, I always say, like, it comes from like a, that's a joke. Yeah. It comes from real insecurity. That I, like, if there was like a bunch of dudes, like, look, is that your car was like, I was like, yeah, let's look at. I have no idea.

Right. I don't know how to start a grill. I don't know nothing. Right. Domesticate cat. Yes, dude. But that's a real insecurity of mine made into humor and everybody laughs and it's kind of like, yeah, it's helpful. Yeah.

It's helpful. It's like, I don't know. It's a level of therapy for you. Yes, and a coping mechanism. Yeah. 100%. There you go, I don't know. I don't know.

It's so. Because who needs to actually go learn the stuff when you can just mask it with humor? Yeah. Exactly. You're welcome. Todd Glass has a bit about he goes, you're these kids don't know. Like who and how many of y'all know how to change your oil on a car? one, two, what are these guys in their 20s?

Two out of five. Bloss is in his 40s. I can't tell sometimes. Sometimes Blosses in his mid-20s to me. Then other times I feel like he's got, he's in his 50s. I can't tell sometimes. You don't know. Depends how much sleep he's got before.

But then somebody goes, if you want to be successful in 20, do you want to know how to like recalculate a hard drive or change oil if you had to pick one of the two? Like our parents don't know how to use. a sundial? Like, because that, we got stuff to do this. So, a change into oil. Yeah. Sorry, keep going. No, does the analogy make sense though? Like, yes. Stuff we don't. The fact that you don't use a sundial. It just uses itself, right? Or like a compass. Or like whatever, like, or like a plow. Yeah. Like, we don't need that anymore because we got a tractor. Right. Like, if you had to pick a skill and you knew how to like change a transmission or like learn the TikTok algorithm,

to be successful, you would say a TikTok algorithm. Yes. Yeah. Society's developing. Yeah. But it's the old joke, oh, these kids, don't know, these old kids,

don't know. Every generation does that. Every, we'll do that in 15, 20 years. Yeah, and they'll do how to work. Don't know how to do nothing. They don't do nothing.

Yeah, because other people work for us. Yeah. Or not, no. Dude. Cut it, no, no.

Keep it on. Everything's staying on, keep it in. Yeah, for those three hours we talked about earlier. We'll make sure to take those out. You kind of went in a rant. I can't have that.

I can't get my show. I just, We'll set this up. So I'm going to be half to text him. Hey, dude. He's like, dude, I wasn't even there. I was like, yeah, but we got into some stuff. Yeah, we'll have to redo the whole thing.

This has been tough. This podcast has gone a bunch of different directions. Or like he takes, but he takes like the hard drive and he's walking out with his computer like at night. And I like jump him in the coming. Like he's like, what happened to the footage? We don't want. We don't have it. We don't know.

We don't have it anymore. I don't know. I'll tell you what. If you're going to not jump one of them, it's going to be Bloss. Yeah, that's the one. Just stays fucking right. He's also a cop. Is he?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude. That's a way to go. He's the guy. Well, you want to know if you're out. Like, if me and my girlfriend are out on Broadway and, like, something went down. Like, Jesus is going to be like, I'm with freaking this guy in the sandals.

Like, I'm not. Like, this is the guy that's protected. Like, I have no idea. Primal. No, yeah. It's going to get primal. Fight or fight situations. Yeah, yeah.

Kevin Hart has a bit about that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. About fighting. About fighting people. Yeah. And the girl always like acting up, being like, oh, he's going to do something. No, he's not going to do anything.

Yeah, he's not going to relax. I think Nate has a bit about that. Nate Bargatsi about how they were out on the lake. And then his wife was like on another boat. She was like, my ex-boyfriend over there. He's like, thanks for ruining my day. Like, he's like, I didn't get out on the bat. He's like, you want me to swim over there?

Right. And like help. Somebody helped me up onto this boat to fight him. Like, what do you want? What do you do? Yeah. Yeah. What do you want me to do?

Dude, all right. There's going to be a way. I'm going back like 30 minutes here, but I kept that question in my head the whole time that I was going to say. Oh, no. You said Jerry Seinfeld, you said Jerry Seinfeld paved the way for comedians. Yeah.

In a lot of ways. You said that multiple times in this podcast. How do you pave the way for comedians? And Brad Paisley paved the way for country. Yeah. Third Brad Paisley. Yeah. I don't think Brad Paisley paved the way.

I don't know. I like, all right. He's got a couple bangers. Don't get me wrong. But like alcohol. Alcohol and celebrity. Those all kind of came out of the same level. A couple bangers.

He has a thousand. He's got a thousand bangers. If you went to a Brad Pacey country, you would know every song. You would know every song. I don't think so. I don't think I know every single one. I know a lot of them for sure. Same with Blake Shelton.

I went to a Blake Shelton concert and I was like, I knew every song. I knew 30. You want to talk about a, I don't know if the comedy world is like this. I'm going to miss her. Whiskey Lullaby. When I get on. Is that a music video? Oh.

I make you cry now. And to put a little mud on time. Oh, this is just a list. Ticks, I like to check you for Ticks. All the same tone. Yeah, it is. Everything you just said was correct. And they're all number ones.

Yeah, yeah. It's just all one song, right? Put it in the formula. But the country music world, I don't know if comedians are like this, but it's like, they fucking, they have like a feeling like, this guy ruins country music. Like people on Luke Bryan for a while when he was selling out of arena. Yeah, this guy. This guy is the worst.

This guy's not it. Then everybody would go to it. kind of like you were saying with that show that I still even know the name. Remember they like kicked like Lil Nas X off the country chart? They were like he can't like whoever decides like right they're like no like Old Town Road

or whatever. Old Town Road was a hitter. It was a hit. If you play that song right now we'd all start yeah yeah it's a great song. They go no this is not whatever the box is of this is out of it. That's out I think that he came out of the song after that where he was like lap dancing the devil.

All right. Yeah, we can't. Yeah. I think country really had to be like, hey, listen. Hey, hey, hey, hey, we got to. We can't do that. Some rules here. Yeah, we got to have some rules here. Yeah, we got to have some rules. Yeah, get a little loose.

Yeah, get a little loose. They're like, that's outside the foundation of what we're talking about here. Yeah. Well, look at, I mean, Hardy has, like, it had moves, though, I'll give them that. Oh, yeah. Hardy has a lot of, like, and Jelly Roll. Yeah.

They're like, like, Hardy has a lot of, like, harder rock songs. But he's like, it was in a very cool transition right now. Oh, yeah. I'm not a rap guy. Yeah. But I've known Jelly Roll for a long time now, and I'm a big fan of him. And some of the songs he's coming out with, his trajectory right now is just insane. Great up.

He is impressive. I went and saw him at Bridgetown. Niceest guy in the world, too. He's incredible. I see that guy. I saw him at the rhyme. Yeah, he's the man. You know, one of my buddies, he was driving down the road the other day and he, like,

he, like, cut somebody off and this big truck drove by and it was jelly roll and he gave him the finger. Yeah. So, the jelly roll gave him the finger. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Niceest guy in the world, though. Yeah. Niceest guy in the world.

He's like, ah, I'm just kidding. I do love jelly roll. Nah. Jerry Seinfeld. You said he paves the way for a lot of comedians. Yeah. What do you mean by that? Like, how does somebody pave the way?

So, what Jerry Seinfeld did was cut, and again, this is just my, from where my past and comedy to where it is now, is Jerry Seinfeld was the first guy. Like, he would just, it was very meticulous about writing. He would just write jokes. He would go, he was the first guy to go, like he would do eight, nine shows a night in, in New York. He would bounce around all the comedy clubs and you would time it up.

He did five minutes here, five minutes here, five minutes here, five minutes here. And then when he did the, he said when he did the Tonight Show the first time. Now, comedy's different now that it was. When he did this tonight show the first time, he had run that exact set over a hundred times. Live. Yeah. And did every word, like he was like, switch this word. here. If you end, like, if you end the word, like, he was like, and that guy,

and that guy fell into the lake with his pants off. Or like, he was like, with his pants, you're like, you switch the joke around so it doesn't end on a preposition, like writing. And he's like, very, very technical. And the comedy, comedy's not like that anymore. But you don't, you never end a sentence on a preposition. Right. Yeah, look at a preposition. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like in, like in the basement. Yeah. Or like a, like, yeah. out above across after. Yeah, there you go. He don't even need Google, bro.

Yeah. Need Google. Got a half Google. Yeah. Where are you like, the very, you're like, why doesn't this joke work? And you're like switch it around.

Like, I was doing a joke about making fun of people that had the back, like people that died of COVID, like in heaven. I would like, oh, you need a West Boeheddle? Yeah. And I was like, but it doesn't work.

I mean, kind of worked. A couple guys back there. Yeah, okay. Yeah. But it did, it never. it's a week. I've done it for like the past three weeks. And I was like, I was like, it doesn't, it never like, is it because it because I'm trying to do accent, like I'm talking to a kid. Like I'm making a roasting somebody. And it's like, and I go, oh, you need a booster. Like,

and it doesn't. And you go, you think it in your head, you're like, this is going to murder. And it doesn't. And you're like, why? Yeah. Do I switch it? Do I take it out? Do I go, oh, does he need a respirator? Do I, what do you do with the joke to? It's like very, very, very, very technical. You listen, you recorded every set, listened to it, and you would write every single word. And there's a lot of comics like that now,

and there's a lot of comics that are literally the opposite of that. But the idea of like, you put one thing on, you do, no one should be putting anything on TikTok before being in comedy for five years. Because it's not good.

It's not good. And then they're going to be like, like, people don't understand how long. Do you think people, can be that good that quick? No. No. See, I think Lewis C.K. said you can't be a transcendent comic before 40.

Why is that? Think about all the greats. Because it takes that long to, like, develop a point of view and, like, something to actually say. Yeah. Because, like, he said Chappelle and Richard Pryor, were the two that were, like, in, they were prolific in their 30s. Because think about how long it takes. Think about all the greats.

Bill Burr, Lewis, C. Some of the best ones are the, the ones that are like, have a point of view. They're like, now there's a lot of good comics that are coming up, but it takes so long to like. Right. At the beginning, it's just jokes. It's just like, but I like.

Yeah. And then it's up there, you have some energy. Now you have something to say, like a point of view. Yeah, yeah. He has to be really smart to do comedy, especially the way Lewis C.K. does it. Dude, it seems like the way he breaks down life. Like his thing has to be, yeah.

And his bit about Narnia and Clifford, the big red dog. Unbelievable. Hilarious. Unbelievable. But they think that. I mean, I think that a lot about Theo. Yeah, I would agree with that. This is so, like, wild.

And to put it in like a, like the way the person's bright, like, if you're going to make fun of something, you have to be up here looking down at it to, to put it into context of what's humorous about it. Otherwise, like every comic, every person would be like the most common thing. somebody would send me that was not a comic, would be like, hey, if you ever watch one of those like commercials for a prescription and like the side effect seems worse. Yeah. And right, that's a very, that's, everybody can get to that. It's a very shallow, like, what? Yeah.

But to think that you are ahead of the writer, you are one step more intelligent than the person that is delivering this. Because they go, are you watching this? You're going to like cure the sniffles, but your like legs going to fall off. Yeah. You go, what? You have to be more intelligent than the thing. Yeah.

To look down on it to make fun. So like one of the best, every observational comedian is like thinking about things on a way different level than the internet. Yeah. Is there, is there like levels of comedy? Like, everyone has a different way of doing comedy.

Is there like levels to you of like what's like the be all end all and what's like, okay, this is a little easier. Like a guy, like, like, like, Bert Kreischer is fucking hilarious.

Yeah, yeah, but he is different than you. He tells stories. Yeah, he wouldn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? There's different genres.

There's different ideas. There's guys that are just say, say outrageous things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Versus a guy that's like, well, Jerry Seinfeld was very observational. Yeah. He made no political or social stances on anything. Which, you know, smart. Smart.

Right? Well, it depends on who you are. But like, like, the voices of like, like. Smart isn't finding, having, being available to every other. And everybody, yeah, there's something for everybody. Right. Burt is like a party, like kind of, it's everybody's drink, and it's not necessarily social comment.

He would say that, though. Like, that's not who he is. What do you mean by social comedy? Like, you would never make like a, like a, like, Andrew Schultz bit on abortion is like, you know what I'm talking? It's like so. I don't think I've seen it.

It's so, he goes, listen, he goes, I'm, what does he say? He's like, I'm, he goes, I'm, he goes, I'm, he goes, I'm, he goes, I'm, he goes, I'm, women can do whatever they want with their bodies. And like, you guys decide. Because when I get to heaven, he's going to like, what were you guys doing that? He was like, it was them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, he goes, like it wasn't me. Like, he goes, in essence, he goes, I. And then Bill Burr has a bit about it, about how he's like, it's like, it's like, well, it's not really he's like, yeah, but if you were, if I had a cake and I put it in the oven, and I was like, in 30 minutes, it's going to be a cake.

and I took it out of the oven. You're like, it wasn't a cake. Yeah, it was gonna be. Yeah. And it was like, no one can say that except a comic. Yeah. And you're like, like, if we lost, I mean, I'm obviously very passionate about it, but if we lost the comics, like, I don't know where the world,

lost the ability, like, the court jester in the olden days was the guy that was like kind of keeping the king. Happy. Honest. Yeah. It would be like, hey, like, these taxes are a little bit. Like, you have to have that guy. And everybody has that, if not a professional.

So everybody has that in their family. What a line to be a jester. Like, what a role to have. They'll kill you. Yeah, they'll kill you. But they also, if you were a jester long enough. They had immunity. Yeah.

They had immunity to an extent. Like, you had to, like, there was the line that you couldn't get to. Because jester is eventually, when they were done, they'd be rewarded like land. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All that stuff. It was a very prestigious job to have. that would be similar to like the the late shows like everything that goes on in the day there is six or seven shows at night and TikTok and now is like somebody's going to be keeping

you honest here right and that's that have you ever been in like a a TikTok or somebody posted and you think it's going to go one way and then the comments just yes crush it well no i i i appreciate the Jeffrey star i had a i had a shirt that says Jesus died for our zins yeah It was at a Zen in front of them. Yeah, yeah. I thought, this is funny. And Jackson said, take a picture. So I took a picture and it was getting murdered.

Getting murdered. It's not funny. No, yeah, no. They were like, this is across the line. Yeah, this is like, hey, you need to find God, brother. Like, it was, like, it was bad like that. But, yes, so the, that's the risk. I literally thought to myself, like, it's, obviously Jesus didn't die for our zins.

Zins weren't a thing then. People didn't have these little, these little deals. Like, I, in my head, I'm like, I guess. But also. But you are, you are. I went to church yesterday, but I don't go to church a lot. So I was like, maybe there's something I'm missing. So you're like, and that's what comedy is.

So you have this idea in your head. And now there's 2,000 people and you walk out on stage. Like, I think, you're like, you were like, there was no joke you were more confident in than that one. Yeah, I guess so. You were like, this will crush. Yeah. Everybody and everybody's like, no. Yeah.

You're like, what? Yes. And so that's the thing about comedy is like, do these comics get to say whatever they want? I go, no, they don't. They have to say whatever you. are already with. The comics, it's actually the opposite. But then, I mean,

there's so many, like, of those, like, anonymous, like, like, TikTok accounts that it's not really anybody. So no one can really cancel them. And it's just, they got, like, just nine million likes on something. It's just so out of pocket that if anybody ever knew that this was the person. You can, that's, but it's like, that's, like, on the inside. Like, that's kind of what everybody likes. Some sort of, like, cartoon or something like that or like some,

and it's like over the top. So whatever, if anybody, whatever anybody tries to push on the culture ideologically, and it was like, not really. And it's just like, that's what comedy does so well. It kind of keeps, it keeps the whole thing on us.

And even a group of like your buddies, guys do it great. That you're like, dude. Like if he comes home with like, like we had talked about it, if you're like, if you're going to like go to like the Taylor Swift concert and like you're like,

I got the meet and greet. And your buddies are like, Dude. Yeah. Like, what? I got the meat. Or whatever. Like, you're doing something.

Like, your buddies will, like, if you have a good group of buddies, they'll, like, roast you in a way to, like, kind of keep you in check. Right. In like a healthy way. You need that. You do. Yes. Because you're like, dude, he's getting, now, we lost him. There's a four.

So basically what you're telling me is bullying is we need that. That's what we need. There needs to be a level of bullying. We should be the title of the pot. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. Well, somebody goes, dude, if you're wearing something like, dude, are you wearing cologne?

Like, come on. Yeah. But no one's going to pull you aside. It would be like, hey, dude. Like, it just kind of like razz you a little bit. And you go, oh, I think I got it. Yeah. Yeah.

Because if you get pulled to the side, it's kind of like way more serious. You don't want that. No, no, no. You don't want that's like an intervention. Yeah. Yeah, that's when you have to make some real life. Do you do good about like if a guy's like drinking too much or like the guys don't kind of have a way of like.

You're on the bottle again a little bit, huh? What's that? You're just telling them, hey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Again? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, it's like a little early. Yeah. Like they'll just kind of throw. And then you go, yeah, your buddies will kind of be, yeah. If you don't have any buddies that are going to be like, all right.

Yeah. And you know you're right when they get mad about it. Like if they get overly upset. That's the comedy stuff. Yeah. Yeah. The only reason you're mad about this because it's true. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise it's not true. Like people, like people say, people have said like rumors about me being gay on the on the internet for since day one. You care to address those rumors? Which camera should I look at? No, no.

No, he goes, no. But I want to say. it doesn't bother me. You want to talk about it? No, I don't. No, I don't. It's all kind of making sense now. I don't care.

Yeah, I don't get. I'm not getting. I'm not getting. I wouldn't like, all right, listen. There's no like, all right. Yeah. The only thing ever offensive is true. That is true.

Yeah, the only thing, if they ever. That is a nice little line. If the only thing is ever offensive to anybody, if it's true, if it's now, if it's all truth and not humor, then they're going to get, they're probably going to cancel you. But if it's all humor and not, like, let's say like, the Big Bang theory. It's like just jokes.

It's not, there's not a lot of, you never watched an episode and called your brother. Like, do you have to see this episode? It's just like, but sometimes there's a, like the best memes are so true that you go, dude, I got to send this to whoever. Yeah. Or your group text, you're like, dude, this is so, they would love this.

That's the best. He talked about, you said being canceled. You said, and then earlier in the podcast, you said you've been canceled before? Do you remember all this stuff? Is somebody writing this down? No, brother. I just remember this? I'm just getting real good at this.

Good interview. Yeah, it's a good interview. I got canceled in 2019. Is it like a right of passage for being a comedian? You feel good about being canceled? Now, it was horrific then. Was it? What year was it?

2019. Oh, you were early. It was like right in the heat of it. I thought canceling really started happening in the 20s. Yeah, it was right in the, like, what was cusp? Remember about it. In, like, the great cancellation of the 20s. It was.

Yeah. It's like, remember, like, people were like in Hollywood were like, like quitting their jobs, like proactively. Yeah. They were like, dude, one time in college, I like hooked up with the guy, I'm out. Yeah. Because everybody was so scared. Remember that?

Yes, I do. Just like voluntarily like, I'm out. It was so scary. It was so scary. That was like after like, like, Cosby Harvey Weinstein era. Those are two big ones. Those are easily canceled. And then, and then what happened was.

Cancel, that's criminal charges. Like, that's a totally different thing between canceling somebody. I think what, I think what... Like, this guy fucked up and said this and like, this dude gave people pills. Yeah, that's a little different. Those are like two different lines that we got to figure out. Like, all right. There's a pendulum swing there.

Yeah, but then I think when, when, when, like, it happened to Aziz. Remember that? I remember Aziz getting canceled. I don't remember what he got to... Yeah, because it was like, who went on like a date and then, like, they were, like, back at his, like, apartment and there. And then everybody's like, wait, this isn't that. Yeah. And they were like, all right, we got to have some kind of like, they were like, and then, yeah. But then when I got canceled, it was everybody was like texting me like, dude, welcome to,

welcome to being successful. Yeah, welcome to the club. I go, oh. The lead singer of Nickelback called you. Yeah, he's like, hey, welcome. We've been here. We know these waters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is, it is, when's the first time anyone ever said anything like came for you on the internet? Horrific. Yeah, it's a terrible feeling. Now it's fine. Yeah, I guess. I mean, you... Vince thing did kind of rattle me.

Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, yeah. But it did kind of like... I'm a little more of a easily rattle. I'm not a comedian. Yeah, yeah. What about Will? No, Will is finding a way to not be cancelable.

How? He did it April Fool's joke and he was a black baby. And it was fucking hilarious. And you look at it and you're like, God, I hope he... I hope I have a co-host after this. Yeah, yeah. Nothing happened. You're like, dude.

I have Jesus on his shirt. I was like, this fucking guy's a problem. You're like, I go to church. Yeah. I went. that's a video he posted What was the name he put on it? Earleine.

Willa Earleon Colton He posts that People are in the mentions being like Congratulations Oh my shit I was like oh my God He didn't get canceled

He didn't get canceled Somehow let him go I know Lamar Jackson retweeted him Yeah I think that's when Lamar Jackson And Will became boys That's so fucking funny dude

Yeah yeah yeah The closest I'll get to being canceled is probably after this podcast. Really? Yeah. All the ventriloquist things you've done to me during this. It wasn't me. Yeah.

I'm over here with my mouth not moving, but also, Taylor said that. He didn't say it. That's cut out. Like, you don't, you don't appear on any of like, like, it's just half screened the whole podcast. We just, yeah, the clips are just like a black photo with the audio behind it. And like, they interview people on like cocaine cowboys. Like your mouth is like different.

You're like, that's not even him. Yeah, it's not even him. What, you don't have, we can cut it up. but what did you get canceled for? I probably should have been home. I was, you can look it up. Blackface it? Yeah. No. I don't know, dude. I'm asking.

Well, I was performing in church. I was doing a lot of shows in churches. And I was drinking a bunch. And I was like, like, like, like cooking up with girls and stuff. Not hooking up, but like, just being not a Christian pretty much. Oh.

That's really. Can't look it up. Yeah. I got, I can't. Legally, I can't, I had a special. on the biggest, I was set to come out on the biggest platform and it got canceled. I can't legally say it. You can't legally say it? Still to this day.

Really? Yeah. I mean, damn. It's like, yeah. You kind of ask you the question. I was like, why would I ask this question? Yeah. Well, that's the thing about it.

It's like, I don't know. It's like, it is what it is not. It's same with like the, the, I just, M&M to myself, a mile to myself. Yeah. That's what you got to do. That's what you got to do. One time, I was getting a lot of penalties in football games. And I had like three against Kansas City Chiefs.

Yeah. We ended up winning, thank God. Yeah. But I had a whole bunch of reporters after it. I've been like, hey, what's it? And I was like, I'm the problem. Yeah. I get lots of penalties.

I'm an absolute liability out there. Just started rattling all these things. And I was like, fuck yeah, dude. You know that. I left. I was like, thank God I did that. Yeah. You should know this because you go to church.

But you know the story about, I'm going to say yes regardless. There was a prostitute and they were going to like stone her. Everybody circled up in the community to stone her and then it was about to go down and Jesus was like, you without sin cast the first stone.

And everybody dropped their stones and kind of walked away. I do know that story. Anyway, we're going to put a link at the bottom. If you like to donate just a couple dollars, that would have been the time, dude. That would have been the time. They're like, dang, we're eating, bro.

Yeah. Missed it. No. Yeah, there you go, you without sin cast the first thumb. And that's like the, that's like the everybody's favorite Bible verse. It's like what, what are we going to? Like publicly we like to. Because if somebody is here, you are here.

You don't like, we like to bring celebrities down. Level people out. Now we, at the beginning, when you start a podcast, everybody was like, yeah, and then you get a little. Okay. I don't like him up there. Yeah, yeah. You need to relax. Yeah, okay.

I don't like this. did not have to work at Staples anymore, but I don't like the fact that you have a nice car. I don't like this because now it's a reflection on me. I get that. Yeah. I get it. I feel like, boys, do we have any questions in the back before we wrap this thing up? Two-hour podcast.

Did you think it would go this long? That long or short. I would say, that's probably about right. Yeah. Right in it. What's our longest one? Probably sure? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. But I didn't say a word. Oh, yeah. I just sat there and let the man work. And you had Eric. I don't know what I'm my back sweat and asswood right now is insane I don't know I don't know what's under this I'm gonna take it off in the middle yeah yeah I think I got a little yeah I do my special is coming out this week yeah we're announcing it this week

it's called John Christ would like to release it release a statement I don't love it yeah what's it uh what's it on a YouTube yeah that's crazy about that is everybody's doing there's on YouTube yeah I've noticed that everybody why do you think that is taking away the the power from Netflix Well, you can't, it's easier to share. Yeah. And comics all, we all have, like, if you're a, you're a movie star, you don't have a live show revenue stream. So you have to just get the money from the streamer is what it's going to pay you.

That's going to pay your bills. We have, it's like putting out music in a lot of ways. The live show is where you make that generate all your income. So you just want, as money people can see that as possible. And sometimes if you go to one of those streamers, they say you can cut, we'll let you cut 10 minutes worth of clips. You can't have it.

We have it. And you got to, like we got offered from like one of the smaller streaming platforms for like a sizable. And they were like, I go, yeah, I can't. I'm not telling everyone to go get Paramount Plus. Or not them, but like that was a knock on that for no reason. That was a shot.

That was a shot. It's okay. And I tried to end up making a shot. They were like, well, wait. We did we. Paramount Plus taking strays. You're like, what? We don't know.

Like, how am I going to? I want this thing to get out. Right. That's all you wanted to do is so people can see it. Yeah. And you're like, if it goes over there, you're like, yeah, dude, I love it, but no thanks. Yeah. I'm not going to be or something, whatever to see you.

I'm good. Yeah. Exactly. No, no. I'm not mentioning the one it was. How do you feel from a confidence level about this? Like, where are your nerves at when you're releasing a special? Like, this one coming out.

Is it like, hey, fuck, I hope people like this. Oh, no, no. It does as well as before. No. It's, I mean, it's all been workshopped alive for,

you hope people, sometimes the algorithm won't, it won't get seen. Yeah. Not that it's not good. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

But you have a large presence on YouTube and all that. You'll be right. Yeah, you'll be right. You always gonna be out of you. And this is where you use your networking situations

to tell your comedian buddies. Hey, will you please post this? You post it. Yeah, yeah. I'll post it. Well,

the thing about it is, thanks, dude. Is when I, when I, when I was, uh, well, Yeah, I just get, yeah. When I was,

I had a couple followers. Somebody said on TikTok, they were like, hey, because when Louis C.K., he did like Madison Square Garden like a couple months ago and some girl on TikTok was like, okay, so apparently Louis CK is like

uncanceled now. Like who decided that? Right. Like, you know who decided? Comics. Yeah. Comics. Joe, Rogan and Bert.

And he went on. Comics literally uncanceled him. How did they do that? Because they put him on everything. All the biggest comedy pods took Lewis C.K. And everybody goes, ah, we love him. And comics uncanceled me. I was canceled.

And the mainstream media wouldn't have me on anything. And then Theo had me on his pod. Nate Parcatsy had me on his pod. Andrew Santino had me on his pod. Ryan Long, all the biggest pods. And then everybody, now my stuff was everywhere. And they were like, oh, he's back. Yeah.

which is awesome. That is unbelievable. And now if you go on... That's America right there. It really is because you go on the Tonight Show. Tonight Show has 1.1 million... If I had a... If I made a video and it went that small,

I would hang myself. Not hang myself. That'd be horrible. Yeah. That would be horrible. If a video did that amount of views, I'd be like it's a failure. 1.1 million.

A big one. Yeah. And they have millions. Have we ever had a video? grow over a million boys? Yeah, you have. Of course you have. Checking. Let's go. Make sure I get to live another day. I don't know. That was like, feel yourself

territory. I want to make sure I was below the line. It was going to put you in the being talked about a monk in this country. Going on James Corden? I was just taking shots at everybody.

You're like, I need to get my message out. I'm going to go on Good Morning America. No. You're going to go on somebody's pod. Joe Rogan's the biggest platform in America. So there's, yeah, Joe Rogan. And if you can never get on Joe. Have you been on Joe?

I haven't been out, yeah. You and Joe boys? We're not buddies. I don't know. You don't know? You never met him, never shook his hand. I like his podcast. Yeah.

This podcast is great. Yeah. Number one in 93 different countries. Is it really? Yeah. Isn't that just wild? I think it's unbelievable. Yeah.

I think it's unbelievable. He's a, he's a guy that can just really project, like, project guys in stardom. immediately. If he says I like this comedian, that person's, they're sold out. Yeah. Well, it's, it is, it is, and you guys probably the same. If you say, like, hey, uh, these, like these, or I don't want to do one of your, somebody that you sponsor. Yeah, they're, they're fantastic. But if you go, hey, like your voice, your pot is big. Ours is, like, you can affect other people's lives. Yo, Rogan, if he says, hey, everybody needs to stop eating at so and so because it will affect

them. Yeah. heavily. Like bankrupt. Heavily. And so we, on a much smaller level, you'd be like, hey, don't. Like, you can promote the things you like, the people you like, and the products you like, and not the other stuff. And you have in some kind of clout, not cloud, but you have some kind of people listen to what you say. That's why advertisers come here because you advertise and people buy it.

Yeah. Very simple. Yeah. But that's also a scary thing because there's a lot of people out there that don't have the best intentions. I do, I'm a big Joe Rogan fan. I think a lot of things he says, he's always in a growth mindset, which makes me think, okay, this is a guy I'm willing to follow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But popularity doesn't always equal credibility. Yeah, true. And so it's like a lot of times when people have a voice, it's like, that can be nerve-wracking. Especially if they're preaching the wrong

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Rate five stars. I don't know why I'm saying that. Let's just get back to this episode. I love you guys. Free Spitting. I had a joke in my show. I think I said it like, hey, like, you know when you tweet,

if you're about to tweet a swear word, it's like, are you sure you want to say that? You know, they should be like, if you're like, like, we are living on foreign, we are living on stolen land. It should be like, do you, are you still on your parents' cell phone? Yeah, yeah. Just like pop up. Ask you a question.

You aren't you, like, we, we stand with Ukraine. I was like, have you paid taxes? Like it just should be like, are you, you shouldn't be saying this. Right. Like a lot of celebrities are like, we listen to them. And I don't think Joe really has, he's more like just very inquisitive. I mean, he does have a side. He's got a side, but he also does a great side of playing,

great way of playing both sides. Yeah. Like, he's not just going to be hard. Yeah. Right or left or whatever, whatever subject it is. But he would, he would make, he would make fun of the people that are like, Joe Rogan or die. Like, I don't know what I'm talking.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. The people that do that about y'all, they were like, dude, these guys, you're like, I don't know, we're just trying to like, we think stuff, but we're not positive. Isn't it wild when people, like, people come up to you? And they're like, I fucking love your sketches. I love your comedy.

I love listening to you on your show and your podcast. Because people come up to me sometimes and it's like, why? You save me or like to question. Yeah, yeah. That's the most wild thing to me. A lot of that. You were like, hey, like I was going through a hard time and you and Will because of like your guys' chemistry or vibe or whatever. Helped me.

Yeah. And I think, man, that's just crazy that that's a thing. That exists. It's just wild. Yeah. But you, I mean, we talk about a lot that on our. podcast about like we are just trying to like people are like hey I got this diagnosis or I'm going through a divorce and like the two hours on your podcast every week is like a respite from some

kind of pain or something like that you everybody and you know a lot of famous people whether musicians or artists or like I like Tiger Woods I flew out to Southern Hills and Tulsa to watch him last year. He came back and he was healthy enough and I go, this, odd to say, but this man has brought me, I don't feel like I'm going to cry. Like it brought me, not really, but like so much joy. Yeah. On Sundays, seeing that guy in the lead was like. And the iconic outfit. Gosh, and walks out. And you're like, dude, you've just like, like, there's so many. There's so many bands that like when I've been depressed, you're like, that they helped me. And, and if you see, if I saw Tiger Woods, you realize, oh, this is uncomfortable because we're on the other side

of it sometimes. And you're like, oh, like, if I're like, dude, if I try to verbalize this, the tiger's like, yeah, too much. He's like, dude, I'm just trying to like sink some puts because like, yeah, I don't, what? I'm trying to get, I'm trying to keep my own life in order, clearly. Right. Like, don't look up to me. Like, watch. watching an athlete, watching Steph Curry or like, it's like the gift, is it like from God or something? I don't know. It's a wild thing. You want to, you want to worship, not worship in like a religious way, but like idolize somebody else, but you don't want to be idolized.

A man, a man is not made to receive it. Yeah, like the idea of, yeah, yeah, I agree with that. The idea of somebody coming to you and essentially selling you, I idolize you is. I'm very uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable, but like if you just took it for what the comment was, it's like, wow, that's amazing that I was able to give you something that I wasn't aware I could give somebody. Yeah. Like, you just hope a regular person on a day-to-day basis, like I want to affect my wife and my kids in a positive way nine times out of ten. Sometimes they frustrate me.

That's where the one comes in. Fair. But like for people, like we were in Colorado, dude. And Will lost his mom. And this guy came up. And Will's been very vocal about it. and the struggles at all. We've added a couple good cries in the show.

And he's like, this dude comes up because I lost my mom around the same time you did yours and you just helped me. And you could see Will does a good job of accepting compliments, which is a trait that people need to have. Definitely. Yeah. But it's also like one of those like, I just can't believe people listen and like want to be a part of this life because we sit in front of a microphone. And to help. It does some, I mean, that you are like, like, obviously like very, very rich and that's part of it. But like, you know, I do all right.

I do okay. That's, but if you don't, if you're like on like your S-Bed or something like that, you're like, you wanted to, that's why it was so hard like when during COVID is nobody was like working. And you're like, I think that if you, the simplest job, right, you will say you work at McDonald's and you know how to run the cat. So a guy comes in, he's been working hard all day. He's hungry. You have the means and the knowledge to make a meal for him and give it. He pays you for it. And that you are helping.

You feel like you're contributing to the, and that's the simplest of all jobs. But you feel like you're a part of helping the other. Helping society. You're being an active member of society. Yeah. And when you're everyone's just alone at home and you're like, man, we need to. go like there are other rewards for it obviously you can feed your family and you can take care of you

and you've had a but you're like well that's what I that's what we're here for yeah thank at the end of it if you want if you were like wanting the praise your cult leader yeah if you were like you should worship me yeah you should worship me yeah what yeah what that'd make any sense if you if anyone the highest compliment anyone could say to you

be like yeah like will like that that means a lot to We work hard. Yeah. We work hard and we spend a lot of thought into who comes on this show and what we say on this show and sometimes we're just making stuff up.

But we do, we do care. You do care about the listeners. You care about them. Oh, 100%. Obviously, you can't do everything for anybody. You can't go visit everybody's, you know, but you do care. There's always like a massive struggle with when success happens to you

because it is like a drug. Whether it's sports, comedy, acting, anything, like you feel that sense of like, holy shit, I'm doing something that not a lot of people get to do. Yeah. And then as you get older and stuff like that, it's like, you start to realize there's so many other avenues and things you can do in this earth. And then you realize, oh, I only have one shot at this.

One shot. And then like, you're like, how can I do everything? But then once you start pulling your bandwidth apart, essentially, you're like, how do you make sure not only doing as much stuff as possible, but you're doing stuff meaningfully? Yeah. And that is, that's a thing that I struggle with all the time because I'm like, I want this podcast to do well. I want like, I want all the things. I want all the things.

Yeah, everybody does. But like at the same time, it's like, what's the most important thing? And that's like, what you really have to get down to? And like, that's where you have to do the work. Yeah. It's tough. Jeffrey Starr. Yeah. Sometimes you gotta get down and dirty. Get on all fours and just bite the pillow, dude. Yeah, it is. Yeah, I guess you just, okay, you don't say bite the pillow. Whoa, dude. He can't say bite the pillow? We're both. People think we're both gay. We're like, You're like, Hey,

we both have an equal investment here. A couple of queens hanging out right now, dude. Now it's like, whoa, that was the line after everything. No, you do,

like you do, like, we don't got to get serious again. All right, I was going to take it back there. Yeah. You don't have to do. Yeah.

No. That's the best part about a podcast, brother. You can say, you can bounce around. Bounce around. You have to, if somebody says,

hey, did you're, you're, you're, you know, crying in the meet and greet and say, I was, you're like,

you want to dismiss it because it's like if you thought that you deserved that would be a wild place I don't know what you gotta be out of your mind you got to be ill

mentally ill to think that that like thank you what or like to be like yeah you're welcome you can say you're welcome I get but yeah to be able to sit there straight face to be like good I did that you know

you're like what yeah yeah yeah it is a wild out thought. To be like if you to be used I guess by by God or to be people love like watching you and like listen to you and you're like well I mean you're like I'm just trying to keep my own like the idea that people are somebody like hey we drove like we took a week we all flew here for your show right like that's an event what paid money for a flight yeah but they they they they have watched your material and deemed that to be a decision that they would like to make.

So why would you say, nah, it's not worth it? You know what I'm saying? Why take that from them? Like everybody that went to Taylor Swift, you're like, it's just crazy. If you interacted with her music and it affected you in some type of way and you're like, I'm going to spend $5,000 and you're like, that's, well, otherwise, we talked about our podcast. Otherwise, what are we doing here? Like everybody, like everybody's depressed.

Everybody's suicidal. Everybody goes back and forth on their willingness and desire to live. And if something makes you that happy. Yeah, that's worth doing. I get jealous of sometimes people that are like, like, if you're like, we're obsessed with the Titans and we got an RV and we go to every. I'm like, dude, I don't care about anything that much. Yeah. Like someone's like obsessed with NASCAR and they just go to, like people have.

followed our tour bus around. Like, like, call them stalkers, but like, I go, dude, I wish I cared about anything that much. Yeah. Like, that's exciting. Do you think there's a reason why you don't care about anything that much? Maybe you, you've, like, if somebody's stalking somebody, like, the worst thing about it is if the stalker was like, oh, yeah. Then you met him and you go, oh.

Yeah. Just a part. Like, I think you've seen the other side of it. Right. Do you care about anything? Who's the, the person, like, the concert that they were like, hey. Even if they're like, Eric Church is like my favorite. Like, and then I was like, uh, and then I go, I missed a pre-sale.

I'll get it in the night. Are you know what I'm saying? I was like, I would love to go. But I'm never. It moves you. There's never been anything for me in my life. Like your kids games would probably be the most important things that would exist. Yeah.

Yeah. I went to my kids play the other day. Yeah. You would miss that for the world. It was terrible. I enjoyed every single minute of it. Those kids were awful actors. Monotone.

It was a musical. It was terrible. It was terrible. Yeah, it's not good at all. But these kids gave it hell. And I was like just happy to be there. Good for them. I don't think there's ever been anything in my life where I've like stayed outside for,

camped overnight for, that you're, waited for a pre-sale to happen. About when you were young? No. I don't think I've ever had that drive. Like obsess over some. Yeah. Weirdly, I've always. When I was a kid, I was like, I want people to do that for me.

I was always like, I want to do something special enough to where people want to come to come see me to do it. whether it was ball or whatever at that point in my life that i'm thinking of yourself it was baseball i said we were at the uh we were did our show on at tampa on saturday night and and the morgan show was in town and we were talking about the meet and greet the meet and grids after the show my tour manager was like well we can just like run through the meet and greet like super fast so then y'all could get over there to the morgan show and i always said i go i would never forfeit the opportunity to live my own dream to go watch someone else to live there you know

your second great line of this podcast hey it did I go well even like open mics it was like small and I was working on my own craft and like hey the you know the

Braves are playing I go but I could do mine that's what you're saying a little bit you're like I want to and I there's nobody's music I love more than Morgan's I'm not going to shortchange

my fans that have come here and we'll do our show and when it is complete we'll go over there hopefully you'll make it over for that Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's what you're saying is you always wanted to kind of live yours.

That's exactly what I'm saying. I've always had like a dream. But everybody has a dream. You know, when they're growing up, they want to be a firefighter or, you know, astronaut or anything. It's just like, I don't know. That was always super important to me. And I've never had like a massive passion like that.

What if we should. If we should, if we should, if we have like a year, we should pick something. What should we do? Just to be like obsessed with. To be a band, a sport. Just follow them around. All our content. 10 online is that.

Follow somebody around. What's that? It could be organization. It could be, it could be a, I have to really, I have to really, it could be a hobby. It could be, just like, I'm going to be all in on this. I would go NASCAR. You would for real go NASCAR?

Oh, yeah. And you just follow NASCAR around everywhere. Oh, get RV. I'll get every, I mean, I don't think I would like, NASCAR groupie. Oh, yeah. All the, all the, all the, all the, all the drivers. Yeah.

It's such a good question. Because I don't like concerts. I don't like going to, it's not music for you. It's, what about sports? I've done sports. Yeah, wouldn't be. We're like, why is Willis just to be in the locker room? Yeah, exactly.

If I was like, I'm going to go hit every, every, go to every NFL stadium to watch a game. I've played in every NFL stadium. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, yeah. I don't know. Wouldn't choose gambling?

No, follow the best gamblers in the world around. Gambling, yeah. I don't know. I would want to be gamble himself or follow around. I would want to. Himself, like, assess over it. Learn every, every casino game and just go on.

No, here's why. Here's why. Here's why. I've had some recent. luck and gambling. And I think my ignorance is what's keeping me alive. Like, I refuse to learn anything more about black. If you go too deep, you might.

You start learning. It's like this is when you hit. I have a little card all of a sudden. It's like 16 versus you got to stay. I think that's when you lose. Yeah. What happened to Taylor? We haven't heard.

He don't text much. And that's a really slippery slope. Yeah. I think something like following, uh, something I don't even follow at all, like soccer. I don't follow soccer at all, but like to go to Europe and find just one guy who's a stud and just follow him. them around. And I think that would be cool to do because it'd be a world I am so, you just learn as you go.

And you're just immersed into it. I like people that are, I like people that are like obsessed with something. Yeah. Like the guy came to meet and greet last night. He goes, dude, I make custom range rovers. All I don't, I only make one at a time and I'm like two a year for people. And I go over and get them from Europe and we fly them back. And he's like, that's like, he's like, he's all his feed is range rovers. Old ones, army ones. And he kind. Like, he's like, he's like, He wakes up in the morning and he's just like, I got a reason to be here. And everybody needs that in some way. It could be your family.

If you're not waking up or like, like we had that, I don't mean to bring up Theo again. But we were. Yeah. Theo and Brad Pace. Yeah. There was the shooting that was in, I was out there because I had some families. They were friends of mine that went to Covenant. and I got those kids off at school all the time,

and I was kind of over there. And Theo, say what you want about him, very, very compassion, and it feels very, very heavily. And he's like, dude, where are you? And I was like,

I'm out here at this church, and he's like, and he came by. And we were just talking about that girl that, you know, I was like, why would you do something like that? And I go,

well, you know, the system hadn't quite worked for her. Whether the society hadn't, like, given her reason to, right. And with her,

I don't want to get too deep into that, but you go, why, Theo, why did you wake up this morning and, like, go to, like, shower and go work out? Why did you do that? Why did I, I was like, I don't know, I want to be here. I want to, I like doing comedy. I want to be as healthy as I can to be able to do it for as long as I can. If the system, you're like, why did you wake up? Like, we had a buddy that is a comedian that is like 50. It just had. like a very bad health issue. And he's never really made it in comedy. Very bad health issue. He was in the hospital for a year has like a million dollars worth of medical debt. And he can't do comedy anymore. And we're like, dude, let's get up and like go for a walk and like get some vegetables. And he goes, why?

You know, like. Yeah. He's like, so I can be here for 20 more years and. Yeah, because he lost his dream. He can't do it anymore. So you sell, well, dude, let's get up and he goes, why would I do? Why? Yeah. And you go, oh. I wonder why people are wired that way. Right. Why? It doesn't make, the covenant thing, I literally can't wrap my head around. Not just a covenant. Yeah, yeah. It happens every day. It happens every day.

It happens every day. Yeah. But you, you, I think to myself, if you're like this, the system, me and you and you and everybody in this bus, the system, whatever the, the, whatever the, the, the government or whatever you call it or capitalism has worked for us, right? We have, and we found a way to find a romantic partner, some of us more successful than others, but I'm just joking. Or like, and like everybody in here is like, Alex works like, hey, if we do this, if we, if we keep going, if we go in the right direction, more average, like we see the way. Yeah. Right?

And we can go on vacation. and better ones with our families, and we can, like, imagine if you were trying to be kept being, like, cast aside by the system, right? And you have, like, you, you try to, you know, get a date, and they're like, you try to, like, kind of start a business. Everybody's like, you're socially, everybody's like, like, everyone creates, commits acts like that in isolation alone. Right. And so you're just like, if everybody keeps pushing you a. side, like, the fantasy, you drive by that, like, door where they sell weapons and you go, huh, right?

In a very, very unhealthy, like, you go, oh, like, that person has power. Yeah. Yeah. The idea of, like, not having a why is really just such a big deal. Because you point everybody back here, everyone here is no one in here is working a cubicle job. Oh, yeah. They're all working and getting better at a craft every single day. But why did they have, why did you have the idea that you're like, I'm going all the way to the league?

Or like, I don't know. I don't know. I could have very easily been a person without direction at all. So could I. Yeah. And I was. I was very troubled in youth and I was in a lot of trouble legally. And then all of a sudden, like I just played football and my football team, my sophomore year, I ended up winning state.

And I was like, holy shit. And it would felt awesome. I want to do this. That's it. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. So we,

I was having a conversation with my buddies that works in inner city and a school. And I was like, I don't understand why there's like graffiti everywhere, graffiti all over the neighborhood. And I was like, why doesn't make any sense? That's just, it's why was anyone to do that?

And he goes, if you've like reached out for like help or like a voice and people constantly have been like. Yeah. And you never been rewarded. You never felt. Then why wouldn't you? Why, when you burn the whole thing down, you're like, it's pointless for me to be here.

And that's what suicide is. Yeah. It's why you go, I don't, I want to, why do I want to follow the rules? I want to, want to drive in the interstate. I don't want to get a ticket because I want to have a driver's license because I want to be able to fly. So I can, the rewards of the system has, it's worked for me. And you've got some validation from doing a thing. Yeah.

And you go, I would like to keep doing that. and if you're not if you're not on that if you what do you call it giving up you're like you should you should start working out or you should start taking care of your body why yeah well what do you think the answer is well I mean I'm a Christian so yeah that was part of my kind of

the kind of the North Star I guess for me yeah I mean finding something else I'm finding something to believe in something what do we doing here this got way too serious well yeah no I mean yeah But you're right. You're like... It's a good question to ask because, like, some people don't have Christianity or religion. And maybe that's not their answer for their why. It's like, you just got to find something to believe in.

For a reason. And if you... If you... Funny, back to Taylor Swift. If you're obsessed with Taylor Swift, you're like, well, if I take another shift at my job, I can maybe get the better seat or I can buy a better out. Or like, right? So you were like, well, if I work harder,

then I can, there's a reward of, but some, if you, that's what we're saying. If you don't have anything, you never got the validation of winning state. If you never, that's like just a, just a shot of like adrenaline so heavy. Yeah. There you go, I want to do that. That's what happened when I first made someone laugh. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the rest of my life.

And I get up and I want to meet with my agents and I want to keep myself together and I want to present well and I want to because I want to do it for as long as possible. and to help other people. And if you don't have a, what's the point, but even outside of, outside of suicide is, is addiction. It's like,

that's what it is. That's another thing, too. Addiction is, like, I've never, I've never, I've never been addicted.

But I have a very addictive personality, but I've always had the ability to sit there and be like, okay. Yeah. You're doing this too much. Yeah. Or you're doing that too much.

You should just take a break, and I do take a break, and then you feel a whole lot better. Yeah, yeah. The suicide thing, I mean, And there people, obviously, every single day committed suicide. And I, like, I've never once had that thought in my head.

It's such a hard thing for me to conceptually wrap my mind around. Somebody, yeah. Or somebody was going to, you know, do that. Because I go to the current, it's basically. It also shows how lucky I've been in life. Like, there's a, there's a wild amount of luck that you need to go along with talent or passion or whatever else. So you're able to achieve it.

There's a lot of guys, like songwriters, comedians that are tortured souls. Oh, yeah. And then they found the outlets that way to do that. It helped them. Football included. Like, there's dudes that run away. Football saved so many people's lives.

Sports saves so many people's lives. And you could see it in locker room sometimes. College, high school, everything. Like, this is like the only thing keeping this guy afloat. And you worry about that guy when he's done. You're like, what's going to happen to him when he's done? So he lost his, like, what do we, and a lot of guys are that. Yeah.

They lost their reason. What are we doing here? Well, the whole thing was working towards winning a ring. Yeah. Now we're done with that. And what are we doing? And then you go, well, what's the point of all of this? Yeah.

Like you've, if you achieved your lifelong goal. Yeah. Everything after that is just disappointment. And then you go, what are we going to spend another 40 years on this planet? Mm-hmm. Talking about, remember the, sounds horrible. Yeah. The best, if your best day was behind you.

Right. Right. That's what, yeah. That's a huge reason. I'm so grateful for doing this. Oh, yeah, dude. Because it's like you start this while you're in ball. And if I, if I'm always where I'm at now my career football.

Yeah. I didn't have this podcast. Yeah. My mental fortitude would be much less positive. I would be in a horrible. I would not be in a good position. Same. Yeah.

Because it consumes you. It truly is your identity. Yeah. And then we'd always say, hey, football's what you do is not who you are. That's bullshit. Like if you're going to, yeah, if you're going to become what I was able to get all the way in. You've got to.

It literally absorbs you. you. It's the point where I'll have conversations with Will or my wife and I'll talk about conversations three years ago. And, uh, like, they would say things that I would say, I can't believe I fucking said that. But it was all in the lens of because I'm a football player. I don't want to be viewed this way or viewed that way and that type of stuff. Now that seems so small to me.

Oh yeah. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, you're just finding something. And we're not going to be able to answer this question. Yeah, I don't think. But if anybody go, what's the reason to like, like, it's a weird. weird thing to say, but somebody told me one time, they go, I had a show in Detroit. And it was like, the guy came to me after the show and he goes, it was at a church. This is back in, I was back,

I used to perform a church as I don't do it anymore. But he goes, we have this girl that was like, she loves your comedy. He's like obsessed with your comedy. And whether this, this story is embellished from him or not, he goes, she was like suicidal. And she goes, well, John's coming. in two months or something he's come. So I want to like stay. I want to stay. I would like, I like,

not anything about me, but like I like that. I'm going to stay a lot for the show. That is a wild thing. It's a wild thing to hear. It's a wild thing to hear on this side. But you go, well,

back to Taylor Swift, you're like, yeah, but okay, if you don't have anything, anything that you're, you make range rovers or you make this table or you're like,

dude, I'm upset. If nothing brings you joy, I don't know quite what to say. Right? Yeah. There's probably a lot of people listening to this right now going, I don't have that. Like, where is that? Yeah.

And you just something. That's a, I was like having something on the, on the, like you're going into going into your doctor, you say you want to be on antidepressants. He's like, well, put a couple fun things on your calendar, get some sunlight, have a conversation with your parents, forgive some people. start exercising and come back in a month. Before we put you on antidepressants, let's try that first.

Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, what are you doing? And in the system, you look at the financial system, you're like, oh, I'm never going to get it.

Yeah. And also like, I don't know, it's tough. Have you ever been depressed? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Like the idea of doing anything

when you're depressed is one of the hardest things that do. And if you're not depressed, you can't understand somebody that is depressed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you've, I've had dark days and it's,

like, you know, I have to do X, Y, and Z today, but the thought of even getting out of bed right now is just, is just awful. Not doing it. Yeah. But it is, yeah, dude, that's a, that's a good little remedy right there. Like, put a couple of things in your calendar that you think, okay, this is going to give me something to look forward to.

Something to look forward to. Otherwise. Light. Yeah. Interaction with human beings. Yeah. Get around. There's a, I don't know if it's a documentary or like,

something that Jonah Hill put on with his therapist. I forget what that's called. It's called, I don't know, but the guy has like a peer. of things if you can achieve these three things. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like it's a relationship with yourself, relationship with people, and then I think it was relationship with a higher power.

Yeah. Which is a word that people really like, you know, for you growing up the way you did, it's like, that's so normal. Yeah, God. Yeah, but yeah, it's uncommon for a lot. Yeah, but it's, it's wild how uncommon is for so many people. Outside of our cell. Yeah.

To invest in it. Yeah, yeah. Invest in organized religion and what's going on. Yeah. And sometimes the answer is like, You don't have to understand everything. I think that's what human beings want to do so much is understand everything going on in the world. And that's not possible.

No. You're not going to be able to obtain that knowledge. Our brains don't function at that capacity. Yeah, but there is, there is, every day you're like, you look at like a flower or so. We're like, there has to. How'd that get made? Yeah, or like, God is like, something's going on here, you know?

Or you look at like another person that you're like these feelings of. love or compassion or ego, there's got to be a, this is beyond our knowledge of, no, 100%. We have the microphones. Yeah, we're listening to us. Yeah. Everything we say is true.

Yeah. But I think it's two people trying to sort that stuff out. And you go, I mean, there's got to be something else besides, isn't it, Jim Carrey that said, I wish everybody could be rich and famous. Yeah. They could realize it's not. That's not the answer. That's not the answer.

Yeah. Does help a lot of it, though. Yeah, there's no question. I'm just kidding. No question. There's a lot to look forward to. Yeah. No, don't give me wrong.

It's pretty nice. Who needs sunlight interaction when you got money, fame and wealth? That's our message, really. That is. Yeah. If you subscribe to this podcast, dude, you can achieve all that with our 10-step program. But yeah, dude. When's your special come out?

May 23rd. Yeah. Yeah. May 23rd. Basically on YouTube. And it's called. John Christ would like to release a statement. What was your process on figuring out that title?

I had like a couple of them. And then I was like, that one would be the most like, everybody was like, wait, what? Yeah. That one about you just asked. Yeah. The reason we did it. Yeah.

Yeah. But it was like John Christ. Yeah. And then with a question mark. They're like, oh, I got to tune to this. Find out what this guy's up to you, man. With a question mark, dude. Yeah.

Fuck, dude, you'd answer a lot of people's questions. It just come out like half with his show, be like, I'm not. And then watch like a bunch of people get out of it and leave the stadium. Ah, he's not. Damn it. You can see like, you know on YouTube, you could see like where the view count and then where you. Yeah, it just drops off. You literally just says the word gay and then it goes straight down.

That's hilarious. That's the next special, dude. Oh, you got it. The next special. Oh, man. Man, I'm, I was like, pleasant. I obviously knew this is going to be a great podcast, but I'm really grateful you came on here. It was a lot of fun.

I really enjoyed talking to you. Thank you, brother. Thanks for having me on. It was an amazing time. We'll have to do it again. But for those of you watching, please subscribe, on subscribe, resubscribe, all those things. Cheat the algorithm. And let's fucking, let's send this thing to the moon.

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