Bussin' With The Boys - Jordan Clark Talks About Growing Up With His Dad, Ryan Clark & Jaden Rashada Talks His Recruiting Process

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

Recorded: April 15th 2023 | In out first episode from our Arizona State spring tour, we sit down with cornerback Jordan Clark and freshmen Quarterback Jaden Rashada. The boys get right into and Jordan talks about what is was like growing up with a Super Bowl winning father in Ryan Clark. He tells a hilarious story involving his dad after a poor game he had in high school. Jaden then gets into his wild recruiting process. Rashada was offered $14 million to go to Florida but eventually turned it all down. He gets into why he decided to walk about from that and why he ended up choosing Arizona State instead. This is a great interview to hear about the inner-workings of the NIL negotiation looks like as well as what it was life as an NFL players son. Enjoy. :51 The guys talk how are they feeling for the spring game 1:18 Why Rashada chose ASU and what happened at Florida 4:05 What was the draw to ASU and expectations where the program can go 5:43 What edge does Jordan have since being under his dads wing/training with him 6:44 Jordan tells insane story about his dad 7:39 Will talks about playing with Ryan Clark 10:06 Jordan believes his dad would stand Derrick Henry up 11:34 How Jaden has been acclimated to ASU 12:15 What about Coach Dillingham brought Jaden here 14:13 The guys give expectations for this year and expectations for their careersFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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EVs for everyone everywhere. Boys, welcome to the show. I appreciate that. I don't know if you guys watch the show very often, but anytime we have ads, I'm not a great reader. I didn't get into the University of Michigan because of my academics. So when I read, it usually doesn't go that well. So I appreciate you guys seeing greatness right there. How are we feeling today for the spring game?

Feeling good. Yeah? Yeah. What are your expectations? What were your expectations going into spring practice as far as getting better as a player? Shoot, my expectations, I was an incoming freshman. So I was just like trying to learn a lot. So I didn't know where it was going to take me, but I started picking up a little faster.

And, yeah, like, I'm happy where I am now. Just got to keep growing. Because you had a lot of adversity going in high school, right? Yeah, yeah. It was wild. What was your process like coming to Arizona State when before you were committed to Florida, am I right? Yeah. You're committed to Florida.

Obviously, there was a big story about you and massive NIL deals. Yeah. And then now coming here, which from my understanding, there's not really any NIL deals going on. Yeah. What was your thought process and that whole thing going through that? Yeah, my thought process, it was a little rough because I didn't understand it at first. You know, there was a lot of question marks going on. like but but honestly how i ended up here you know my my dad you know uh played here like 94

through 98 or somewhere around there so like i always grew up around the program you know just this was like the first college team i knew um you know i was i was just you know figuring it out and it just met more to be here and that's why like coach dillingham he's an arizona guy like he's trying to fill the room with people who want to be here so what happened at florida Yeah, so we're having at Florida was... Everybody knows the headlines. Yeah, everybody knows the headlines. From your perspective?

From my perspective, I mean, it was a... You know, it's just new to everybody. It's new to a lot of people, so... When you say new, you're talking about the NIL stuff, all the money, Florida, and everything else? Yeah, and, you know, it's just... It's new to everybody, so, you know, you got a lot of people, you know, included in there, so...

I mean, it's hard, it's hard to explain, but, but like, On the surface level, it seems like reading articles. You had a lot of money on the table. Yeah. Close to $14 million. Essentially when you signed, they didn't actually have that money. And then that's when you decided, oh, this isn't what you guys said it was going to be. That's when you decided to ask for getting out of your commitment.

On the surface, like reading from a third, like, yeah, right. Yeah, right. Outside looking in. Right. Um, I think a lot of that. just comes into trust, you know, all that stuff aside, you know what I mean. So, you know, when you're playing for somebody, you got to try to, you know, you got to trust everything around you and it just came down to trust and that's why I ended up here, to be

honest. Just interesting because you passed up a lot of money from probably a lot of programs. Yeah. That is an interesting financial decision to make. When you were in high school and you're seeing the possibility of $14 million, brother, I would shit my pants. There was no. there were no NIL deals at all.

Like when we played in college, we bring up the same thing all the time. It's like we could get a bagel but no cream cheese. Like all the NCAA rules were just wild and things just seem like they're the Wild West right now. Yeah. And they come here and this program, I like both of you to speak on it like,

ASU historically has not been one of those programs that are, you know, Nebraska and Alabama, Michigan type thing. What was the draw for both of you? Obviously, your dad playing here. And then where do you think this program can get to in your times being here in college? being here in college.

Yeah, shoot, in my honest opinion, like, Tim P, like, this is a big recruiting tool, you know? So, like, you win here, like, you can keep it going. And, like, who wouldn't want to live out here, you know, while... I 100% agree with that. Went in the PAC 12, you know what I mean. So, like, this is definitely a place you can win. And I'm sure you guys know, like, there's certain programs that can get to that.

You know, there's some programs that, like, you know, won't keep going. But I think this is a place that we can win and to keep going. on becoming tradition. How about you, Joy, what made you want to come all the way to AZ from Louisiana? Yeah, man, I spent a lot of time out here growing up. This is where my dad did his off-season stuff, you know, whenever I was coming up. So I spent a lot of time in the area, was familiar with it.

There were players in my position room that looked like me, you know what I'm saying? I'm an undersized guy. So it was big to me that I was going to place where they played people that were my size. You know what I'm saying? So I knew that wouldn't be a factor in deciding who was going to get on the field, who wouldn't. And then outside of that, I just love to him. bro. I love how close I am to Scottsdale. I love everything that this area has to offer,

you know, as far as, you know, social life, you know what I'm saying, the academic opportunities I had with the Kronkite school and all that stuff. So it was really an easy decision, no-brainer for me. What kind of edge do you feel like you have? Because I got to play with your dad for, I think, just a year. But kind of being under his wing growing up, I feel like I've known you because I've watched when Ryan would put out all those videos of all the training he was doing with all those guys. You were obviously in him a lot. You had a fro at the time moving around great feet.

But what kind of edge do you feel like you've had coming into the college level, like having a father like Ryan Clark? Man, it was everything. You know, it really is everything. In high school, man, my dad had me up at 4.35 o'clock before school working out. And I leave there and I go to practice. And then after practice, I'm right back at the gym after school. You know what I'm saying?

So, you know, just schedules like that, he kind of gave me the blueprint. So now whenever I'm doing the work that is to some people difficult, you know what I'm saying, or hard. I've been doing my entire life is the norm. So, you know, he's prepared me in really every way that he possibly could to, you know, excel at this level. Was there a level of resistance when he was waking you up at 5 a.m.? And you're seeing all the guys in high school?

Because we had Christian McCaffrey on here, and he was basically telling us a similar story about his dad. They were like no sweets. They had to be in bed at 7.30. Grounded if you got tackled by your jersey. Yeah, tackled by your jersey. You were literally grounded. And obviously, at the time, he hated it. But now he obviously sees there's proof in the pudding. Like, how was that?

when did you start to realize, like, oh, if I keep doing this stuff, it's going to pay off? Yeah, man, I'll tell the story. I was in my January, my sophomore year, I had missed, like, two or three tackles. And if there's one thing that my dad did when he played, it was he hunted, bro. Like, he was a banger. So I missed three tackles, and I seen him stand up in the stands and I already knew he's mad. And the next day, bro, he woke me up, and he brought out his Super Bowl helmet and his pads. And we did Oklahoma's for, like, an hour.

No, no, bro. Legitimately. Like, lined up across each other, like five yards away from each other. just ran into each other for like an hour. And I got yelled at, cut style, like, everything. And I was like, I was mad. I went home crying. Like, I was hurt.

How old were you? Sophomore in high school. How old was that? 15? Yeah. Yeah. I was about 15, yeah. How old are you now?

21. About six years ago. Yeah. Man, that is so funny. You know, you know, you know, R.C. I was just thinking RIS in that bedroom that night before he woke him up, just like this motherfucker's going to catch you dance. But I will say this, whether it was, um, walk through his jar.

throughs anything, even like being in the linebacker room or a linebacker coach would even point out Ryan because he was getting, when he was getting longer in the tooth and getting aged, something that he was always persistent at and professional. I was like he always took angles and worked his angles every day. And I'm sure you've talked to enough old heads that play with him, but he really was like that until basically he died out of the league. No teasing piece of boy, we all die. But everyone dies. Everyone perishes. But he truly like, I mean, he was a, he's a pro. He was a pro's a pro. You have that as an oh man, shout out R.C. That's my only shout out I'm going to give you on our platform.

He gave you a whole bunch when he came on the show. I know, I know. I love Uncle R.C. I'm sure were you, did you live out there in Virginia when he was out there in Washington? I was sure you were out there with the orange chicken. We get a cheesecake factory? Hell yeah, bro. Hey, he's in now. Sorry. You're fired up by that food. Those are some good vies, man. Those are good times. And Ryan always hosted. I learned a lot with Ryan with like the IVs and massage therapists. And when we came out to Arizona, like being over, going over, going over,

What was it, PEP? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He looked a lot of, our, a lot of his teammates, a lot of us up with his people for being in the league so long. Did he introduce you to NAD and all that? No, NAD. First time I heard about NAD was out here with Bobo. Yeah, Nashville?

Yeah, Nashville. Yeah, not out here in Arizona, but yeah, Nashville was the first time I'd ever heard of NAD. But all this stuff with the IVs and everything like that, I feel like I was always surrounded by some good vets like Ryan who would come in and they would always open the door about, hey, come over, get work. here, get work there, have stuff set up for everybody. He was always one of them. When your dad took you out on that faithful morning, did Oklahoma drill. That's so funny. Did he still have it?

Or was he taking you out? Yeah, I was getting messed up the whole time. Yeah. He had his Super Bowl helmet on. Yeah, he had a Super Bowl. He literally had his... The helmet he wore in the Super Bowl, bro. I know him. I'm pulling it out of like the glass case. Yeah. Open it up, getting out real careful, wiping it down a little fast.

He ordered like a practice jersey that looked like my high school practice jersey with like the number out and everything. Yeah. Damn. Yo, I love this. That is hilarious. So after that day, what lesson did that teach you? Don't miss tackles. Don't miss tackles.

Don't miss tackles. How are you at tackling now? They're pretty good. You asked my teammates, but I think I'm pretty good. That's not the way your dad will answer that question. We had him on the bus. And we were talking about Derek Kennedy, who we were talking about before the podcast. And he was saying that he would stand Derek up.

And the hole. Knock on lie, bro. I think he would literally die trying. Like literally, like he would crack. He would, he is willing to die to do that. So I believe him. Do you believe he would do it? Yes.

Yeah, you don't, you don't think so. We're talking, you can't, I don't know why we're getting into this again. The majority, the majority of defensive players that would have a zero place to go lane against Derek, you're going to get Derek to the ground. Yeah, but you're, the way. you're phrasing it. If you're, what about you're in open space?

He breaks a hole. He's coming up. He's coming right out of you. Now we're changing the goalpost again. Like, yeah, we're changing this is, we're getting to this exact same conversation.

Yeah. You think he would Robert Spillane, Derek. You're talking about Ryan? Yeah. Doug, Ryan threw his body. Yeah, like, I'm not. I've never seen him.

I never seen a point. You need to type in Ryan Clark College. I'm not saying he's like the hardest hitter to ever come. Like he's some shanty or anything like that. But, I mean, yeah, Ryan is willing to risk, would have been willing to risk his life. Yeah.

To win in the hole. God, you gotta love that, man. He, I mean, I mean, Willis McGahey, he wasn't like, it's not like he was seeing him, but just, yeah, go watch some Ryan Clark tape. I mean, he brought the boom. I mean, he didn't play just 13 years undrafted, just, I don't know, floating out there. You know what I mean? Something wrong with, brother, for him.

He's so wrong with him. Some wrong with him. Yeah, I'm wrong with him. Jayton, how have you been acclimating? Yeah, I've been acclimating pretty good. like, I think living in Tempeed makes it a little easier, you know, being from California, like, it's not much different. I love it out here.

Like, I don't even miss home at all. Like, I'm not even going back for summer, like, no breaks or nothing. I'm staying out here. You got it out here. Yeah, no, like, you got everything you need out here. A lot of resources, a lot of, like, good networking. You know, a lot of good networking. Hey, I've been out here in Tempe.

I remember coming out here and visiting from Michigan. And I know what the resources you're talking about. What was it like with Coach D? You talk about trust levels and everything else. What was it about him that brought you here? Because, you know, listen, everybody's going to listen and hear about you passing out 14. Probably everywhere down to $8 million that you're passing up from all these different schools to come play for nothing in Arizona State. What was it about Coach D and this staff?

Like what? I know your dad played out of here. But what's that trust level talk about that. No, yeah. So like a big thing, too, with me coming here was, um, You know, I noticed what it was before, like, as far as like the NIO stuff, and I was like, you know, it was making me realize what's really important, you know, because it really, like, made me happy, you know, and going through all that stuff,

like, it didn't make me, you know, it was just making things worse and worse. So I was like, you go somewhere. Is that stressful, yeah? Yeah, it was bad. Like, it was bad. So I had to go somewhere where it met more to me and where I could trust everybody in the building. So Dillie recruited me at Oregon my, like, in the sophomore year, whole junior year. And I almost committed to Oregon.

I almost committed to Oregon. And Dillie told me, like, he's like, just go take your visits. Like, make sure, like, this is the place you want to be. Like, he always, like, looked out, like, not even if it was in his favor. When I was committed other places, I was asking him, like, hey, what do you think of this? What do you think of that? And he was, like, one of the few coaches I had that relationship with. So when I got my release, like I kind of knew, you know, I knew where I was going to end up going because, like, yeah, that's somebody I trust.

He never really lied to me, like, ever always kept it pretty real. So, yeah. That's cool, man. He's a guy that seems like he has really, like, an incredibly good energy. Yeah, like he's a high energy dude. Yeah. We were walking through the cafeteria. He was yelling at guys from across the hall.

Just like, seems like a dude that's, like, young enough to still, like, relate with you guys. Exactly. I know we have to wrap it right around 15 minutes right now but just kind of like a two-parter like from an Arizona state standpoint where do you guys see the expectation for you guys going into this year

and then where do you think you can get to by the end of your careers here? Yeah. First go ahead, go ahead. Just for this year man, the sky is the limit you know what I'm saying just with the new energy that we have in the building and the new guys that we brought in

getting kids like Dayton here man, the talent that we have here and the opportunities that we have as far as our schedule this year, I think that we're going to shock a lot of people, and we're going to win a lot of football games. And I think we're going to be the beginning of a dynasty here with Coach Dillingham. And for me, I just want to win football games. That's all that's important to me.

Individual accolades don't really matter too much. You know, I want to play good ball always. But what I want is for this place to be return to the top. You know what I'm saying? I want to be top four, top five again, like they were some years ago. I want to do that stuff. I want to bring that energy back. So that's what I'm looking forward to doing.

Awesome. Yeah. I think, like, you know, to piggyback on what he was saying, you know, just winning, you know, how important that is. You kind of see, like, how important it is to everybody on the team, too, like, just with the energy coming in. So I think this year, you know, plans to win, you know, win as much games as possible. And really this year was set the tone for the years after that and just build from there. And I think this, like, I think this program, like, be playing for pack. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened this year and definitely not, you know, the next

couple years on top of that, especially with the older guys. They come in, like, set the tone, like, no egos, you know, helping a lot of the younger dudes out. And that always shows a lot about a team, you know, because been on, like, some team with individuals, you guys, you can't win, like that, no matter how talented you are. So, and coach is big on, like, tradition, you know, and having a culture, you know, so he's definitely trying to bring. bring that back here. And, like, yeah, I think, I think sky's really the limit. Like, I'm not even just saying that, like, we'll shock some people.

We appreciate you guys, man. I do want to know when one was the Arizona State in the top five. Yeah. Oh, whenever they played Notre Dame that year, they lost to Oregon State in the last game of the season. But, yeah, I'm just checking. Just checking. They said back to the top. I was thinking to myself.

Yeah, I know. You can fact check it. All right. You can't have me. Hey, appreciate you guys, man. 2014, 2014? Yeah. You guys were ranked what?

Okay, so not top. We didn't, you do that stuff. But that's what he's talking. He's like, he's trying to get them back in them. Back to the top. Back in those conversations. Yeah, we appreciate you guys, man. Thank you guys.

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