Bussin' With The Boys - Josh Pate Picks Arch Manning & Texas Over Oklahoma + Will Compton & Taylor Lewan Ride With Oregon

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

Welcome back to The Locker Room with Josh Pate, Will Compton, & Taylor Lewan! This week, we dive into the exciting matchups of Michigan VS. USC, Texas VS. Oklahoma, Ohio State VS. Illinois, Alabam...a VS. Missouri, and Indiana VS. Oregon. New episodes every Wednesday at 6:00 PM CT.    Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 7:52 Michigan VS. USC 19:55 Texas VS. Oklahoma 30:53 Ohio State VS. Illinois 40:42 Alabama VS. Missouri  51:08 Indiana VS. Oregon 1:01:05 Dog Of The Week 1:07:20 Bet The Boys Parlay See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good afternoon, ladies gentlemen, and happy Spooktober or efficient week two Spooktober. Do me a favor as you're watching this show on YouTube. Subscribe, unsubscribe, resubscribe, leave a comment. What should you leave? I don't know, a pumpkin because it's Spooktober. Let's take a look at the records last week. Three and two across the board for everybody. So everything, so we don't know stays the same.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Myself in first place, 18 and 14. Josh Pake, Commissioner, he's batting 500 right now. And sweet little Willie, he's down 14 to 18. Good thing about this is everything's real close. A lot of weeks left. We have a lot of games to go over. Michigan, USC. Michigan travels to USC.
Starting point is 00:00:35 And then our game of the week, Indiana, at Oregon, Dan Laining versus Kurt Signetti. There's rumors going around that Kurt Zignetti has leaked text messages about what he said about Dan Lennon. You'll find out on this show. Again, subscribe and subscribe. We subscribe. Spooky season, this is the Lockroom.
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Starting point is 00:02:28 And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was hungry. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis keep coming to him. He's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love.
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Starting point is 00:03:53 More so gambling. But you know, every conversation that William and I have about Nebraska has happened in your presence. We have never talked about Nebraska behind your back. I don't believe that. That's, you're calling that a lie. Knowing Wilcocton, he's a guy that gets you in the corner and he'll talk about the Huskers, whether you like it or not. Similar to what he said a couple weeks ago about chef Josh. Like that is,
Starting point is 00:04:15 Chef Jack, excuse me. Chef Jack. Josh, staring out of Josh, is a Jack over there in the corner. But when we were, we guys were saying you're like, you love Nebraska this week over Maryland.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I feel very confident about Nebraska covering its Maryland as well. Until you said it's your favorite pick of the week. Because a few weeks ago at the Buston Bowl, it was also your favorite pick of the week for Nebraska. Which makes you think, haven't I doubled down on being guarded before I ever say something like that again? Now it does.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yeah. Now it does. I wasn't before, but now you've really, you've really sold me. Can I tell you this? Both of you. I would like to tell everyone in the room this. So a high level mustache type, an executive at a media company, text me last week. It was Wednesday night. It was like 8 o'clock. The episode had just dropped. He said, you know what, man, you guys are great chemistry on that show. It's a great mixture of there's enough meat on the bone for the analytical types. There's enough humor for the casual types. Not that we're just looking to attract casuals here. But I said, thanks, man. And then I was sitting there thinking to myself as I drove in this morning.
Starting point is 00:05:13 It's really easy to have fun and be lighthearted the first half of the season. But then you start looking at the records every week. Then the pumpkins come out. And you try and lock in and you tend to get a little more serious the second half of the year. So what I think we have to do is we have to guard against that. We have to be the right level of serious, but also the right level of fun. Because what do we have if we don't have fun? Yeah, and that brings me to the commissioner's poll.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Good level of serious, good level of fun. Georgia Tech top 10. Haven't lost the game. Over Missou, who's undefeated. Sell me on why Georgia Tech is over Missouri. And look, this is very small. It's 10 or 11. Like you said, with one and two, Ohio State, Miami, you can swap them.
Starting point is 00:05:56 But why in your brain is it, am I going to troll the country with this one? No, no, no, it's not that. I'm just nodding along with your statement. I'm not saying yes, you're right. Okay, so talk to me about how Georgia Tech's what, too bad. Best wins are Clemson, who we know about now. They're not even in your poll. Wake Forest, they escaped that game.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Then you look at Missou, beating Kansas, beating South Carolina. I would say that those couple wins would outweigh what we know about Clemson now and a little, you know, kind of a fluky game there at the end with a Wake Forest team. So last night, when we were putting the commissioners poll together, I was sitting at our table and our studio. And there were two of them. One was one that you're going to bring up. The other was this. It was Missouri and it was, who did you just mentioned, Georgia Tech?
Starting point is 00:06:45 So it was like coin flip either way. So eventually we take five minutes on it and I said, just put them down in whatever order. So that was basically the extent of what it came down to. Would it make you feel better if I flipped them? Yeah, it would. Well, I can't do it because we already made the graphic. You can put out an official statement. You can pop a little note to screenshot.
Starting point is 00:07:04 We could do that. We could do that. But the good news for Missouri is they got Alabama in this. week, which we're going to talk about in the show. So if they beat Alabama, no one's arguing them or Georgia Tech. They're like solidly in the top 10, top eight, top six, whatever. All right. So you can go ahead and talk about the second question I'm going to ask because I don't even need to ask it. All right. So I'll read his lines on the prompter here. How could you possibly have, roll it Cincinnati over Nebraska? And it's a great question. All right? If it were week two
Starting point is 00:07:32 or week three, we would have to strictly honor the head to head. We have gotten six weeks into the season now. So I've got a little bit more than just head to head. So I looked at Cincinnati last week and what they did against Iowa State. And Iowa State at that point was in my top 15. And I thought they beat them. It kind of had like a Miami FSU vibe where the final score was way closer than the game was. So pretty emphatic result against Iowa State. At that point, I think I had them a little bit behind Nebraska. So then that bumped them a little bit ahead of Nebraska. So I think the resume overall has enough meat on the bone where there's a little bit. little bit more juice in the Cincinnati corner to where I didn't go head to head. Because if they
Starting point is 00:08:11 were just equal, I would have gone head to head. I would have put Nebraska ahead of Cincinnati. Right. Just take Cincinnati's resume at three points and that's Nebraska. That's right. So just something to think about next. Just something to think about. We got to take care of business down in Maryland. But we have a lot of great games we're talking about here. We got Michigan, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, Ohio State, Illinois, Alabama, Missouri. We got Indiana, Oregon. We got some dogs of the week, which, by the way, your boy is six and one on his dogs of the week for the year. What's, is Josh paid six and one as well? Five and one.
Starting point is 00:08:41 We're both five and one. Two and four. Taylor, two and four on dogs, parlay. We lost to parlay last week. That's a hand up my fault. I moved the line Nebraska minus 16 and a half. They should have covered that. Michigan State had a trash touchdown at the end of the game.
Starting point is 00:08:55 But let's talk the first game of the week. Wasn't Michigan State up 21, 2014? Yeah, and then the Huskers woke up 24 unanswered. Gotcha. Got you. Not cover the original line. Ah. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:09:06 We're talking about the parlay line movement we had here, right? You guys are doing great in win-loss categories that don't count towards the show. I probably need to do a better job of focusing on my parlay and my dog on the week. I just put everything into these five games that we talk about every single week. And look, I'm moving off the Huskers for everybody this week. I got a different team to parlay. That's big of you. That's big of you.
Starting point is 00:09:29 First game you talked about is near and dear to my heart. It's Michigan at USC. is favored minus two and a half. This game is at night in the Coliseum. And total points in that game is 57.5. I would love to just go on a rampage about Michigan and how they're going to dominate. And I do think toughness beats pretty,
Starting point is 00:09:49 nine times out of 10. But Jordan Maiava, the quarterback for USC, he does great against the Blitz. Who bits is the most in all power for, Michigan? So his, I think, his completion percentage against the Blitz is like 87 and a half percent. He's only taken one sack. So there's a lot of areas, if you're a Michigan fan,
Starting point is 00:10:08 to be nervous for this game. This is what I'll say about that. Everybody that USC has played from a blitzing standpoint is a pedestrian defense compared to Michigan. It doesn't play Derek Moore, who's going to be a day two pick, Jayshott and Barron, who's going to be a day one pick.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Both of our linebackers are going to get drafted in the NFL. We got a front seven that's willing to murder you. And we got that safety. What's his name, Hillman? What's your favorite player in college football? Brandon Hillman. Brandon Hillman. My God. Couple of that with Bryce Underwood going for,
Starting point is 00:10:34 270 last week, running for over 125 yards against the number one rush defense in all the country. I'm obviously biased in the situation. I'm going to take Michigan money line. I'm biased. I understand that. I'll let you guys break down the logic of everything else because right now I can't look at it any other way.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But I am nervous. For me to say I'm not nervous is... Everybody that's watching at home right now, I think can smell it through their screen. Yeah, I am... This is... Tears are a little rattle. He's not even trying to actually sell us on Michigan.
Starting point is 00:11:05 JP and I sat there before the show and it's like, this is the game. Like if you don't win this game, it's all right, eyes got to be on 26. Because you got the quarterback yellow things, but this is the game. It's like, who are we going to be? Wow. And I'm nervous about it. Because you know you're going to be a hard state the end of the year. The part that I hate is that like you drop this game, it's all eyes on 26.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Like there's still so much. We're in week seven, but still all eyes on 26 for me. So the only. loss you have is Oklahoma. It's an out of conference game. Should have won that one. Out of that's debatable. Out of conference game. Should have won that game. First conference loss. We're moving on to 26. Listen, man, it's, um, you got to beat USC's ass here. I mean, you look back at the last, the last time we played. We could not throw the ball. We had no four pass. We had it turned off in our settings if you're playing a video game. And still 290 on the ground. And we put,
Starting point is 00:11:56 and we did a two minute drill at the end of the game to win. And we just ran the ball up the middle. USC has gotten bigger on the defensive side of the ball and the offensive side of the ball and the offensive side of the ball and the trenches. The boys have grown up a little bit out there
Starting point is 00:12:08 on the West Coast. They've gotten bigger. But you put it on the Illinois game and it's like, oh, there's the game plan right there if you are a tough football team to beat USC. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:19 What's the matter with you? I'm just nervous. This is me and my fandom being like, bro, I got to have it. GTHI. Last time I watched this team go on the road,
Starting point is 00:12:29 was it Nebraska? Was that the last road game? And I mean, I had the pleasure, the distinct honor of standing next to you. I've never seen a chest that big. I've never seen eyes that wide. I've never seen confidence ooze out of a person. And they validated your belief. And now Lincoln Riley?
Starting point is 00:12:48 Lincoln Riley has you shook? Lincoln, you ran for 290 without the forward pass last year. I can't be my true self in this situation? I just expected more from your true self. I listen, regardless of who else is. sitting on the set. Nebraska was a much less talented team much more beneath Michigan.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Oh. I knew that and their game plan showed that. Hurt people, hurt people. That's what's happening right now. That's truly like, I've said that vocally. Like I just think Nebraska wasn't there from a talent standpoint. USC matches up well against Michigan. I gave you the blitz stat.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Lemon, they're getting another wide receiver back. Their quarterback can run the ball as well as past the ball. They have a good offense. And so I'm excited to watch this defense stand up. But then I watched the Wisconsin game. There's a lot of holes when you're blitzing that much. Wink Martindale,
Starting point is 00:13:35 he's blitzing more than he did last year, and I was getting a little nervous about that. So this is like a nervous game for me. Luckily, I'm not playing Saturday. I get to get off a plane because we're going to get back a real fast clump from Red River robbery. I'm going to rush my ass home.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I'm going to put that thing on, and I'm going to be excited for every single snap. But as I sit here, I can't, you know, I'm looking at my record. I have a standard to uphold for the people that are watching me 18 and 14. I just think, listen, I am biased. I'm in a blender about this one.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I think it's going to work out for us, but I am a little nervous. Do you want to go? Sure, we can talk some ball. I think Michigan's a good football team. I think when I was watching when I was going back and looking at the USC Illinois game, like USC fumbling on the first drive. Illinois, one of their scores is a double reverse touchdown. USC had a massive play, a touchdown called back for an illegal man downfield.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And when they had to have it, USC got very lucky with the fumble recovery before half time. Buddy was down. His elbow was down. USC gets a football, but there's 49 seconds left before halftime, and they go down 65 yards. They don't punch it in. They're inside the 10. They end up, they end of the game when they had to go up one, they're marching down the field fast. I personally think USC has too much offense for Michigan because Michigan's going to have to keep up. And when we sat on the show and talked about Illinois USC and it was like, you know, I basically just said, why not Illinois? We talked about how they would have to make it a phone booth game. because they can run the ball pretty well.
Starting point is 00:15:01 But honestly, it wasn't even very much like a phone booth game. Like Luke, Altenheimer. No, no. Stick with Altenheimer. Altenheimer. Luke Altenheimer is 20 for 26, like 320 plus yards. Like he's got some good dropback game where he's slinging it around, painting it near the sideline, everything else. And when I watch Michigan's offense, there's not a lot of true pass game.
Starting point is 00:15:23 It's you've got to move the pocket. It's play action. It's perimeter. It's run game. And I just don't think offensively, they're built to kind of keep up with USC because in my opinion, USC's going to score. So when I look at this game,
Starting point is 00:15:36 and then I look at Justice Haynes, you look at he's got, what, 654 yards on the season? Five carries of those go for like 305 yards. Like half of his carries are from five carries, five explosive plays where he's untouched running to the end zone. So I just, I feel like USC, and here's just a stat too. USC since
Starting point is 00:15:59 22, since Lincoln Raleigh showed up, as a home favorite, they're 18 and 2. After a buy week, they're 5 and 1. That's a paper popper. Yeah. I just, I like USC in this spot. I think Michigan, I think they're a little too inconsistent right now on offense.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And right now it's like, if I want to go Michigan, I'm kind of hanging my hat on a couple of just explosive plays happening because they'll have three and outs. You know, they'll have just drives that are kind of weird, whether Bryce is overthrowing a little bit, a receiver dropping a football. So I'm going to go USC here. Marsh five-star freshman, four receptions for 80 yards. Donovan McCauley, six receptions for 112 yards last game, pushing the ball down the field.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Yeah. Pushing the ball. So you mentioned the explosive plays from Michigan, and I've been caught in this trap before. I've been caught in the trap. He has. Hey, as long as so-and-so limits the explosive run, like I'm, I, been caught in that trap of let's take Justice Haynes one or two long runs away. What else did he do? Oh, otherwise he was 2.7 yards per carry. And then he pops two explosive runs on me and
Starting point is 00:17:06 it's irrelevant. Like if he does it every game, it's irrelevant. So last year in this game, Michigan had touchdown runs of 53, 41. They had a 63 yard run to set up the game winner. So they had it in this game last year. They had it without a quarterback that was any threat to throw the ball last year. Now you at least have a threat to throw the ball. You got a good tailback, tandem again, but you really got a good lead tailback. What I am very curious about is what if USC grabs a lead? What if they can just get up 17 to 3? What if they force Michigan into a really unfamiliar spot, a spot that I don't know if we trust them to come from behind.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I don't know if we trust them to throw the ball to win the game. But that's game script stuff. So if it doesn't start that way, if it's just a standardized game, what I have trouble doing is I have trouble blindly trusting USC to win a fist fight. If you could turn the game into that, which Michigan will because it's their identity. Very rarely do they face one of these teams and not at least insert the physical element into the game. Most of the times they win those games. At the very least, they insert that element into the game. So the one thing I remember about the Oklahoma game is Oklahoma got after Underwood a little bit.
Starting point is 00:18:14 They pressured them a little bit. And USC is not going to garner respect defensively, nationally. And that's okay. They are a top 25 pressure rate team. So if you can't run the ball on early downs, They do have the ability, if they earn the right to rush the passer, they do have the ability to pressure underwood. So I'm making the case for USC, but then I remember the Nebraska game.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Namely, afterwards, you're laid out behind me. I'm at least able to sit up, but I'm on camera talking about how Michigan did it to me again, how I picked against them again, how I had a Michigan problem. So I've worked on my Michigan problem. Quietly, I don't want to be labeled a hero, but I've done the work off camera. I've done the work in the dark. that I can come to you in the light and say, if I'm going to be wrong here, I'm going to be wrong riding with Michigan. I'm taking Michigan to win the game. It feels so weird for the words
Starting point is 00:19:03 to come out of my mouth. I'm taking Michigan to, it feels, it feels something. Yeah. I'm taking Michigan to win the game. What is what life's all about is just feeling something in general. Yeah. Good, bad, a little dopamine. You got to feel something. So if we go down, we're going down together. I love that. I love having you on my side for this one. And it's very fitting that Will takes USC in this but hey, but hey. It's not personal brother. I know it's not. You like the shiny object. Is it? It's more like, like, if this game was at, if this game.
Starting point is 00:19:29 This is not a personal, I don't think it's personal at all. Go ahead. I was just going to say, if this game is at Michigan, I'm probably going the other way because I just think these teams, like we have so much evidence of, outside of like a team like Ohio State. But you have just the evidence of teams just struggling, especially more so in the first half when they're traveling to a coast game or West Coast is coming to the Midwest.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Or you look at Maryland and West. Washington last week. Washington ends up getting that game, but it was 20 to nothing going into the fourth quarter. And again, it's just like the USC's offense. I just watched them. Like, they have some really good players. I think they're going to have a good plan and have a bad taste in their mouth losing a game they shouldn't have to Illinois and having a buy week to kind of sit on it. But yeah, should we go to the Red River shootout, Red River rivalry? We should. So, yeah, I heard you guys having the conversation. What is the correct terminology of that? When I was born...
Starting point is 00:20:24 Future college football commissioner, he's a historian now. When I was born, the game was called the Red River Shootout. Okay. Somewhere along the way, it got changed. But I never changed it. You never did. So in my mind, it's the Red River Shootout. The banners can say whatever they want to.
Starting point is 00:20:36 The field can be spray painted, whatever it wants to. It's the Red River Shootout in my household. I love it. Hey, well, do you know, Michael Bolger has got this fun idea. You play for an ultra? It's like the fun little competition's going down. It's simple. It is this simple.
Starting point is 00:20:48 You want to play for an ultra. For us, in the shop, around the shop, it's been rock, paper, scissors would you like would you like another go to play for an ultra right now right now right now so this is yours yeah i'll be right i'll be right back with that shoot yeah one two three shoot god damn one two three shoot okay one two three shoot but that hey that's what it's all about bragging rights superior taste better when you're a winner superiors worth playing for yes micha lup ultra superior light beer and that pisses me off, not the beer, but what just happened? How do I go in the stream room and dominate everybody?
Starting point is 00:21:29 And then this shit's got to happen here. Back to the episode. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we, How do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title.
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Starting point is 00:23:58 And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us
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Starting point is 00:24:40 So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Texas's favorite one and a half last week. How does that happen? How does that happen? Last week you hated Texas. How does that? There were some narratives created out there. I mean, telling the truth.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Whenever time I turn it on Twitter, there were people saying Josh Pate hates Texas. Hates them. He thinks Arch Mating is a bust. He actually doesn't think any of the meanings were ever actually that good. They were held up by their teams. I should go right for the New York Times. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:25:08 That's what I should do. Anti-Texas. You got the Red River shootout. You're choosing to not go to it because Texas is there. Texas chose for me not to go to it. Texas screwed it up. I didn't screw my trip to Dallas up. Texas screwed my trip to Dallas up.
Starting point is 00:25:23 What's that mean for you in this game? Texas is going to win. Texas is going to win the game. Make no mistake about it. I wasn't a Texas hater. I was a Texas truth teller last week. I've been an Oklahoma truth teller all year. Did we not sit around this table in the preseason
Starting point is 00:25:38 and have me tell you, give me John Mateer for the Heisman. Did I not tell you in the commissioner's poll? Give me Oklahoma top ten. Did I not say these things? Did I not say last week? Texas is in trouble in the swamp. In fact, give me Florida to win the game outright.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Did I not bear the burden of being labeled a Texas hater last week? The answer to all these questions is yes. So I think what that makes me is an authority on this game. Because I quite literally haven't been wrong about either of these teams all year. The sheriff is in town. So we walk into that. Actually, you guys walk into Dallas. I'll be in Missouri.
Starting point is 00:26:15 But people walk into Dallas on Saturday. They've moved this game to 3.30 Eastern. 2.30 Central, used to be an 11 a.m. kickoff, whatever. You're so much an authority, like, you don't have to go to the game. You're just sending us to the game. Yes. I'm dispatching you to the game. Yes. Texas has struggled offensively. Goes without saying. All right, the same principles that were in play for Florida last week. The reason I like Florida to win is because when you sucked doing something a certain way, you have the least incentive in the world to continue doing that thing that way. I think Texas and their coaching staff,
Starting point is 00:26:49 expected a whole lot more out of this offensive line. But okay, you got what you got right now. But you still do have scholarship Texas offensive linemen there. You still do have a really highly paid staff there. You've got a sponge in your hand. You thought it was full of water. You didn't even have to squeeze it. Okay, well, it turns out you got to squeeze the sponge harder,
Starting point is 00:27:05 but there's still enough water in there. You're still good enough. Arch Manning quietly has improved. If he wasn't being pressured on like half of his dropbacks, it would be nice. He's having to bear the brunt of all the scrutiny. And Texas's offensive line is woeful. underachieved. I had a paper popper stat. Their tailbacks have done nothing. Like Texas running backs, nine rushes for 11 yards against Florida. So no one else is doing anything either. It's just the New York
Starting point is 00:27:32 Times doesn't want to write about Texas running backs or left guards. They want to write about Arch Manning. I don't think Oklahoma's run the ball worth anything either outside of John Mateer. Their tailbacks against power for competition under three yards per carry. That isn't even to mention whether Metteer is going to play. And if he plays, is he 100%. If he's not 100% Hawkins has to go, he was not good against Kent. I know they blew Kent state out. He was not good. So they need to win by scoring 17 or something like that and just need to hold Texas to like single digits. If John Meteer does play, I still wonder, is he 100%? And if he is even, I wonder if they have a complimentary enough ground game that Texas has to respect, the
Starting point is 00:28:17 Cap Buster plays. In other words, I wonder if those are there. Because if they're not, and they may not be there for Texas either, you just get into a slug fest. In those type of games, I just love the more desperate team. And I do think there are some plays there to be made for Arch Manning. So I'm going to say the same thing this week that I said last week. I said, I don't think there's a huge gap between Florida, Texas. And everyone thought that was insane. And then Florida won. I know the records and the rankings say otherwise. In this one game setting, Saturday and Dallas, I don't think there's that big a gap between Texas. And then we're Texas OU. I'm taking the more desperate team. I think Texas wins.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Brent Vinnibald's defense. Respect it. Respect it. Is this a struggling? You said the running back? Buddy, I feel great after that. You know how I'm obsessed with wounded animals at the beginning with? Like, I'm thinking, I think I'm going to. What an out of context clip to be taken later.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah, yeah. I'm obsessed with wounded animals. Yeah. I'm obsessed with wounds. Like Rob Zombie's Halloween. Oh, God. You guys remember that one? No.
Starting point is 00:29:14 We were talking about Spooktober. Rob Zombie's Halloween. I know he's got three movies. the yeah the Halloween where he kind of it was Michael Myers and he was a young yeah yeah yeah yeah it was you know that one got the most out yeah yeah yeah yeah it is spooky season yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it is spooky season yeah i was like you like texas yeah i was so up in the air about this game so up in the air like i i honestly i just didn't know which way i wanted to go it's like you got i love by the way the chapolte lake king you know you get on the reddit the channels
Starting point is 00:29:42 that are promoting that they they talk to john material you said hell yeah i'm gonna play in this game. Anybody close to John Matar, if it's up to him, he's going to play in this game. I hope he gets to play in this game because I want to see your Oklahoma team that you've been talking about all year long. Yes, you have called. That was beautiful, by the way. What you just did was beautiful. And I think, too, it's like, I'm so pissed off about the way Texas performed last week because I truly believed in that defense, that veteran defense that I was talking about. that's not only been top five this year but top five last year and i think it is i think it's one of those gut check situations defensively like when you're watching that film and then talking
Starting point is 00:30:21 about a game like oklahoma about how badly you need it i think they bounced back in a big way of john mityer or not so i was wanting to go texas again and you just absolutely sold me so which just leaves one give me oklahoma oh the suitors especially if matthier plays i love the read it. I love the Chipotle. I love Venable's defense. I think if you're... Love Dobson. Yeah, I love Dobson. If Texas hasn't been able to operate against these other teams, how they're supposed to operate against Brent Benneball's defense. Wow. I mean, Arch Manning, he's had a tough one. I don't want to throw salt in the womb when it comes to the Manning family, friends of the show. Friends of the show. Friends of the show. But when I look at Oklahoma,
Starting point is 00:31:02 and I have to relive in my head how they kind of dominated Michigan and the way Michigan likes to play, they took their identity. They said, don't worry about that. We're going to put you in a blender for four quarters. I look at Oklahoma and I'm like if Matir plays 100% 80% 75% I like them pushing the ball down the field enough to win this game. It's a hand. It's a hand. But everything you also hurt because you bring up a couple of people that are related to the program right now. Correct. Matir is not only a handsome boy who can throw the ball over the yard who's got enough shake to be like a considered a dual threat quarterback. But he's a guy's guy's guy. Guy's guy.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Guys guy. Don't treat me like a quarterback. Yeah, I'm not quite a put weight on the ball. Yeah, let me put that. I'm gonna put that on my back. I'm gonna squat that. We're gonna get after it. Power clean.
Starting point is 00:31:50 He's a dude, he's got that like creatine vibe about him where he's all about the sups. He's all about a fat armed Friday. All about a good laugh. All about a good laugh. He's like one of those dudes that's like, as much as I hated him a few weeks ago, kind of falling in love with him right now. So give me Oklahoma. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And I also think too, like, you know, Sark. Not a stat, but give me Oklahoma. You know Sark is just, there's a little bit of, talk right now. Boyd there's a lot of talk right now. Sark's name getting tied a little bit. The James Franklin stats like you know they got a they in Texas you talk about desperation too like Texas has to have this game. Yep. There's Oklahoma. It's their record five and no. They're undefeated. They're undefeated. And you guys loved the wounded animal and we talked. You did the Florida thing last week
Starting point is 00:32:29 but a couple weeks ago you guys did Florida versus. Buddy, I've done I remember we were talking about last week I said the reason I'm scared to not pick Florida this week against Texas because. Yeah, yeah. This is going to be the week where they turn it around. But I was on them here for a couple weeks in a row, and I think they're a live dog, a live gator this week. Against A&M, in my personal opinion. By the way, just before we move on this game, big transitive property game.
Starting point is 00:32:53 About middle of the season, you start talking about transitive properties. So let's just say, for example, let's say Texas does go and win this game Saturday. Well, in terms of the transitive property, later down the road, that means the team that Ohio State handled in week one just beat the team that handled Michigan. What does it mean for rivalry week?
Starting point is 00:33:15 That's a rock paper scissors situation. Time out. Just because one doesn't mean it beats the other. Go to that scenario again. All right. Transitive property. You said transitive and I was trying to like weirdly google in my head. I was doing the same thing.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Like I got to figure out what transitive means by the time. Yeah, yeah. And then when he brought up three games, I was like, okay, Ohio State beat Texas, Michigan. There's a corner of the internet. Texas beats Oklahoma. Texas beats Oklahoma. I'm more saying this so I know that I'm right. You can say, okay, that's correct.
Starting point is 00:33:42 If Texas beats Oklahoma and Ohio State beat Texas and Oklahoma beat Michigan, what does that mean for Ohio State Michigan? And what it means is Buckeyes by 90. That's what it means. There is no other way. Here's your problem. Remember all that therapy you went to about having a Michigan problem? I got a Michigan problem.
Starting point is 00:34:00 We need to move on. Even we're picking a game that has nothing to do with them right now. You're still picking against Michigan. This means Ohio State by 90. I feel more comment about Michigan now than ever beating U.S. See because you really don't believe you're just saying it because you said in the past. Look, back in the early days of the internet, one of the first things that happened is porn. But another thing that happened was people figured out how to talk about the transitive property on message boards.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And this took off. There were people who knew ball. There were people who didn't know ball. The didn't know ball crowd just started talking about the transitive property. They thought they had football licked. Well, if A beat B and B beat C, how could C possibly beat A? And then C would beat A. And they would be like, this makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:34:41 How could this have happened? What happens because the ball is shaped weird. And you score in threes and sevens. And last week doesn't matter this week. So I always love to have fun and just throw the transitive property in people's faces. And then when it pans out, you just talk about it like it's science. That's a beautiful way to backtrack on everything you just said. That's correct.
Starting point is 00:34:58 A transitive property states that if a first item relates to a second item and the second item relates to the third item in the same way, then the first item also relates to the third item in that same way. That's what I said. Yeah. That's exactly what I said. The definition is more confusing the way you framed it to me. But there's nothing too. Like when somebody throws a definition and then you check it and that definition is the exact same as the internet. To me it's like, oh buddy, you operate at a different level. Yeah, it's Francis Ellis on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Yeah, like I could put definitions together just with a, you know, I can try to throw words at something and be like, oh, that kind of makes sense. But when it's spot on, a lot of respect for you, Josh. I'm texting Sark. So what you're saying, Sark knows now. If Texas beats Oklahoma, Ohio State by 90 in November. Minimum. Speaking of Ohio State, speaking of Ohio State, Ohio State goes to Illinois this week.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Number one team in the country against the 17 team in the country. Shaky number one team in the country. Ohio State is favored by 14 and a half. The over under on this game is 49 and a half. Fellas, how are we feeling? Because I'm going to be honest. I like Ohio State. Three scores.
Starting point is 00:36:06 You like Ohio State three scores against the? Illinois. Two scores and a point. Okay, which would make? Go for two. Go for two on one of those. I like, I hope and pray Ohio State wins this game. I need them to be undefeated for that lost by 90 that you were referring to. But Illinois, 14 and a half, for me, it's just too many points. It's a lot of points. At Illinois, Luke Altenheimer. He is one of the more underrated quarterbacks in college football. And I agree. They have a great operation of a dude. They do a great job of sustaining drives. Their defense is good, not great. And you look at Ohio State, if Texas is who we think Texas is, then they don't really have a, Ohio State doesn't have a huge win or a big
Starting point is 00:36:53 like, hey, we beat those guys this year. They're in a bit of a dogfighting the first half of their game against Ohio. They end up covering in that game. Well, actually, they tied that spread 28 points, but it was like 9 to 9 or 9 to whatever. I just think, Illinois, Illinois, Brett Bilema, they get embarrassed by Indiana. Just because they came and have righted the ship a little bit, doesn't mean that taste isn't out of their mouth. Ohio State wins this game, but Illinois covers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I don't mind that thought to me. It's like I'm kind of, I got hit in the mouth last week with a pick like this. And it was Mississippi State A&M. I feel like they're kind of begging you. Yeah, you move the line and still lost. Yeah, they're kind of begging you to take this line. Exactly. I didn't move the line.
Starting point is 00:37:34 The line moved. Oh, you took a, okay, so you saw. It was 14 and a half, and then by Saturday it was 16 and a half. So you jumped on. I just jumped on because Pate's like, you know, they could be just begging you to take it. Yeah, they kept on turning the rod. You watched film, watch this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah. And so I'm learning from that, and I just think, yeah, that's the sole reason why I'm taking this game. I do think Illinois is underrated. I think there are a good football team. I think Ohio State's a different beast. Defensively, they are a different beast. You can talk people can have conversations about the offense all they want. They do what they have to do in games.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Matt Patricia is incredible out there. That defense flies around. I like Ohio State here because, again, when I was watching the USC Illinois game, Illinois is going to need turnovers to go their way. They're going to need a couple trick plays in there. I just think Ohio State's going to be ready to go. They're going to go into Illinois, and I think they cover this. I think Illinois plays very similarly to Washington in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:38:31 They're not as mobile at quarterback, but they still utilize that RPO. He's reading that linebacker. while they're running a quick slant. And a lot of those plays that Washington had where they pushed the ball down the field on that Ohio State defense, they were successful. Between the 25 and the 25,
Starting point is 00:38:44 very successful about getting the ball down the field. And when they got in the red zone, they're in the red zone three separate times, they only come away with six different points. I like the culture of Brett B. Lemae a little bit more than I do in Washington. They play a similar game on offense
Starting point is 00:39:00 that seemed to be relatively successful in the chunk of middle of the field versus Ohio State. And that's why I think, I mean, you look at Ohio State's run game. They're like a three-back system. They got a running back, his name's Bo Jackson. He's got half as many yards as Justin Hayes, if you're, Justice Hayes, if you're wondering.
Starting point is 00:39:16 But they just don't, they're not like a, they don't have a dynamic pass game and run game. They have one or the other based on the game that they're playing. And I like Illinois, they seem a little more of a complete team. They're not as good, but they're good at both, as opposed to being a good one or the other. there was a random score in my head that kept floating around because the number's 14 and a half right the score 20 to 6 kept floating around it would be so brutal because again ohio state will have gone
Starting point is 00:39:44 in there and do what they do they will have done a version of what they did to washington where illinois has no shot offensively all day struggling to cross the 50 whatever but ohio state has so few possessions right now offensively they just grind the game to a halt which is beautiful it's not a knock on them. It's a knock on laying the points with them because you're worried, can they pull away? The one thing I do think is I think they know, and I think they have structured the entire first half of their season to bring Julian Sayan along at a proper pace because they know they're not going to get challenged after Texas. So they can kind of treat this as fall camp, although don't let Ryan Day hear that. I think they'll add layer and layer and layer week by week. And I think they
Starting point is 00:40:25 realize we're going to have to throw the ball to win a national title. We're going to have to utilize this wide receiver core more than we have if we're going to actually win the big 10 if we're going to be to Oregon one day if we're going to go into Michigan to beat Michigan if we're going to win in the playoffs so one of these games and maybe it's this one I think just you mentioned that hasn't been there the run game and past game at the same time one of these games I think that's going to kind of click and I'm going to semi bank that it's going to be this week so I'll actually take Ohio State and lay the points but there's a solid 20 to six game in there somewhere where I'm just you can't be serious you held them to six and we still didn't cover I'm going to roll the
Starting point is 00:40:58 I don't feel confident on it, so I won't be betting anything on this game, but I'll take Ohio State to win and cover. Okay. Responsible. Yep. Responsible man right there. That would be nuts. Do I get some credit if I say 20 to 6?
Starting point is 00:41:11 I mean, it is on the record. It is true. Do we give them something? We'll put a star next to your name in the lost category. Yeah. Called the game exactly and lost. Congrats. Right. You go three and two again.
Starting point is 00:41:21 We'll put a star next to the two. Yeah. We'll just give it an extra. Give them an extra what? Just an extra W. Three, two, and one? Hey, what's that one? I called the exact score
Starting point is 00:41:30 they don't want a house day game. No, he didn't follow it. He bet against himself, but he didn't call the score. He did call the score. It's going to be an interesting game. And also, they hate the past game.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I mean, they got too nasty wide receivers, two first round pick wide receivers, but they didn't really do a hole. Yeah. It's not like, oh my God, they're blowing the doors out these guys. And I kind of like, too, watching and moving the ball
Starting point is 00:41:49 because they weren't that successful clearly in the red zone, but you have some tape to learn from. You know what I mean? Patricia can get a little, you can get a little salt in the defensive room. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:59 It was either a pump return or a kick return that Ohio State fumbled the ball. Yeah. Put them in a short field. It still came with only three in that situation. Right. Treating the boys like they lost going out to Washington. Yeah. The things we're saying together are making you feel good about the pick that I'm going against,
Starting point is 00:42:13 but it also makes me feel good about my pick. Yeah. You know what makes them feel good at Ohio State? What? Is knowing they hired Matt Patricia, because their D.C. left them to go get 40 plus hung on him at UCLA. I think that's what makes them feel good. Can you imagine how?
Starting point is 00:42:28 how high those feet are kicked up in that building, watching Penn State, UCLA, knowing Jim Knowles jetted on them. And they're like, we'll be fine. Talk about a butterfly effect. Ohio State loses their DC to Penn State. And because of that transition, getting hung 40 on them, now there's fear in Lincoln, Nebraska about their head coach going to Penn State.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Butterfly effect. Look at that. Butterfly effect. I'm just saying, isn't that crazy? Ashton Citcher, it's a great movie you should watch Butterfly Effect. It is. It's a phenomenal movie. Well, you got to bring the brass in this.
Starting point is 00:42:56 He got a journal, he reads it, he goes, and then he's in a different time period. Believe, Amy Smart is in that movie. Preston from Remember the Titans is in that movie. Football movie, you love football movies. Coach Rule ain't going anywhere. Speaking of Amy Smart.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Coach Rule ain't going anymore. I hope he doesn't. I love Coach Rule. I've been on House Rules. Briefly. Yeah, that's my guy. I've been on it, right? You were in the credits.
Starting point is 00:43:20 You were in the credits of the show. Just like Ryan Day is technically a friend of the show for Bus and the Boys. He's been on. Yeah. I'm just, this is a college football show. We talk about things going on in college football. One of the guys went to Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:43:32 And I'm saying there's rumors. I know there's rumors, but this is like a father figure to me. He ain't going on. He wouldn't do it. No, he wouldn't do it. Loves it in Lincoln. You're just saying that it is your job as a Big J. journalist to just pretend.
Starting point is 00:43:45 You've got to present the scenario. You've got to put it out there. You're saying no way it happens. Yeah, I'm saying no way it happens. And I'm saying it would be bad for college football if it happened. I can't have Matt Rule leave Nebraska. that would be bad for college football. He's not a bad for college football guy.
Starting point is 00:44:01 He's a good for college football guy. Lest we forget, the job's not open at Penn State right now. Less we forget. Two weeks ago, you were framing a couple questions to me. If they lose to Oregon, do you think about getting James Franklin out of there? And my thought was like, hey, if you're happy with your ceiling being 10 and 2, well, now the ceiling's no longer looking like 10 and 2. That 10 and 2 looked more like a lost to Ohio State and not UCLA.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Right. Now that it's UCLA. And now you got to play Ohio State. They play Indiana as well, right? And Michigan State, Nebraska, Ohio State, at Iowa at night is all of a sudden just a game that no one can look over? Yeah. Yeah. Aller, getting pissed off. You guys still in the hunt for the playoffs? What do you think? Anytime you have a response like that as a quarterback, it's like, oh, you guys are not happy.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I actually didn't even hear that sound bite. Did he really say that? Yeah, he was sitting there and they're like, are you guys still in the hunt for the playoffs? He's like, what do you think? Looks right at him. I'm asking you the question. I'm asking you the question. Wow. We interrupt this episode to bring you form energy. Form energy delivers best-in-class taste with natural flavors and zero sugar. Form comes in a variety of flavors like the screaming freedom, rocket pop inspired, grape smash, blue blitz, and the Orange Fury that your boy is drinking.
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Starting point is 00:45:45 Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Starting point is 00:46:53 Iowa to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be. Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex? Dating at 45. How can it be getting naked at 50 with the new guy?
Starting point is 00:47:18 That one's kind of hard, you know? Well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure. sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears or tears of laughter, and dive into it unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of my Coutura podcast network available on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about
Starting point is 00:47:49 defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and our And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.
Starting point is 00:48:16 He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stopped by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah.
Starting point is 00:48:37 You figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Number eight. Yeah. Alabama. Alabama. It might be going to Penn State.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Alabama at 14 Missouri. Alabama's favored three and a half points. Total points in that game is 52.5. I was one of the first people to sit there after week one and be like Alabama's dead. You hear the rumor, the Reddit rumors about 2 a.m. Guys are getting their Uber Eats along with a side of ass, and they're going up to their hotel room and doing whatever. They're being very loose about everything.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Sat on that bus, looked at G in the eyes, you guys might be done. And a lot of people in college football, only thought the same thing, but also we're kind of happy about it. The college football world celebrated saying it is down. The idea of Alabama being dead. They danced on the grave even though there wasn't a body in there. Right, just a dug hole.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Unfortunately thing for them is no one's in it. And I think Alabama, this is my favorite pick of the entire week. I think Missouri, they obviously have a great run game. The running backs leading all of college football in rushing. It's like 736 yards. Some of the only 100 or something more than Justice Hayes. But you look at who they've played. They haven't really played anybody.
Starting point is 00:49:54 No disrespect to JP. They played South Carolina. Where Jeff's Carolina was ranked. They beat them 29 to 20. Alabama goes and they beat Georgia like they always do, but they stop. They break Georgia's home game winning streak of like what, 23 games in? Pre-COVID? Pre-COVID.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Pre-covid. Pre-boosters. Yes. The last time they, yeah. So then they had Diego Pavia. They were 1-0 against quarterbacks to talk trash again. about them. He's a kid, man. He's just a kid. Yeah, he's just a young boy. He's just a kid. But they made him look like a kid during that game a little bit. Had a bunch of turnovers. I like the way
Starting point is 00:50:29 Alabama's trending. Killing DeBoer comes on the show this week. Friend of the show. Two-time friend of the show now. Two-time friend of the show. Yeah. I feel great about Alabama. The thing that does make me nervous we were talking about before the show, Missouri under construction, I was like, hey, they don't care about it. And I was like, Gary goes, I walked into Vanderbilt last year and they were under construction. Look what happened there. So that does make me a little bit nervous. But I'm taking Alabama to cover. I got Alabama covering. DeBoar is not a good construction coach.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Not a good, but he also wasn't a good coach against quarterbacks talk trash. He's wrote that shit. He's got to fix a lot of his trends. He fixed the penalized trend. They don't get penalized anymore. You're fixing.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Now you've got to fix the road games. You've got to fix the road game because is the Georgia game a fix? That's one game. There are one and five going into that game. It takes two or three. Does it take three? Does it take three?
Starting point is 00:51:19 Two is a streak. Is three a trend and two's a streak? I think it might be flipped. Either way. Either way they're not there yet. I want whatever three is. Oh, so you're with me. I think, possibly?
Starting point is 00:51:31 I don't know. Maybe. What was the? He's saying he might be saying... How's six by 90? Yeah. Bucks by 90. He might be saying until they get on that three game, whatever it is,
Starting point is 00:51:42 streak trend, he's going to make Bama prove it to him. Yeah, only way to get three is to get three. You've gotten two. This is the next one in the list. No, they've gotten one. since that right in that ship. Can I just say this, though? Georgia.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Vanderbilt. Yep. Vandy was at home. They beat Vandy. They lost to Vaglia last year. Yeah. Multiple quarterbacks have been to death now. Continue.
Starting point is 00:52:03 All right. So the third one would be the game we're talking about right now, Missouri. Yeah. I think they're going to get the third. Matt Rule's not leaving Nebraska. That's not happening. You don't think so? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Alma mater? Or will complex put it, alma mater? Alma mater. A tomato, tomator. Boys were watching too much cars. There's no way Altmaimer moves the ball in Ohio State. There's no way. There's no way it happens.
Starting point is 00:52:29 You don't think Altenheimer's going to get it done? Caleb Towns? I think Altonheimer presses the red button. There's a couple of nukes on them. Give me Missou here. I'm just waiting for a total. I was just waiting for a total out of the rafters. Do you what?
Starting point is 00:52:45 Do you have a score in that game? No, no, no score in that game. I think Alabama escapes a close. one against Missou. I personally don't like this spot for Alabama. You have two very emotional wins. Night games, Georgia, Vandy. Now you're going in.
Starting point is 00:53:01 You've got to be ready to go at 11 a.m. in Columbia, Missouri. Willys and Harpos will be rocking two great college bars. Fall Don't Lie Tour. Fall Don't Lie Tour is going to be there. Place is going to be rocking in Missouri. I can promise you that. I mean, if I will mount Josh Payton,
Starting point is 00:53:20 mouth open video too on just a bomb touchdown. Yeah. And again, Missouri, you can argue about if they played a team or not. They are number one in the country in rush yards per game, number one rush defense,
Starting point is 00:53:31 number one and third down conversions as an offense converting on 62% Amad Hardy. Like, you want to talk about a running back. Thanks more than just one to take him down. Bro. I got Jamal Roberts, too. He's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Yeah, he's averaging over seven as well. Both their running backs very good. But this is Ahmad Hardy. Let me tell you about Amad Hardy. $510, 210 pounds, and he's all 210. I bet he's $2.15 weighing in on Monday mornings when they're checking weight there. The dude is sturdy when he's coming through the hole. Like guys are not only, guys will have thick form tackles on this young man.
Starting point is 00:54:06 And his body like doesn't move. He just keeps going. Like tackle after tackle, he is hard to bring down. And Missouri, like the way that they operate schematically on offense, they live in 12 personnel. They'll change the gaps on you, whether it's with one tight end, whether it's with both tight ends. I think you'll get a lot of one-on-one opportunities for Hardy in the hole, and I like my odds with Hardy. They move the ball very well. Prubula's a good quarterback.
Starting point is 00:54:30 He can win with his legs. He's got a pretty ball downfield. He operates very well and confidently. Defense, they can get after the passer a little bit. They are number 10 in the country on past defense. I like Missouri here. I like Missouri. I think it takes a moment for Alabama to kind of like wake the fuck up because it's 11 a.m.
Starting point is 00:54:47 and they've had a couple emotional wins. So that's why I like Bama here with, or that's why I like Missouri here with the points. So the first thing we have to answer is, is all of Missouri's stat profile legit? Which is what you have to ask about any team that really hasn't faced high level competition. Because they could be great
Starting point is 00:55:03 or they could be a total, you know, paper tiger, pun intended, whatever. So that's the first thing we have to answer. Because you're right. Like all of the, their number two total, their number one run, their number 10 pass. That's defensively for Missouri. Missouri. So what is Bama getting defensively? Like what are they facing defensively? Is Missouri really the number two total defense in the country? Are they really the number one run defense? Are
Starting point is 00:55:28 they even a fraction of that? So the scaling issue against a quality team, you can't know until you know. But the thing that I think about and what gives me the most concern for Alabama is for all the fear that people had about Bama being able to face Georgia, they actually should have about Missouri because this is a bigger challenge for Bama's offensive line than Georgia was. Georgia can't pressure the quarterback. Missouri can. Missouri's got players like Damon Wilson should be playing for Georgia, but he transferred to Missouri. Zion Young is a much better guy than what they faced against Georgia. It's just weird to say that because one's Missouri and the other's Georgia. So I see a similar edge here that Bama had against Georgia. Because Alabama could have and did at times
Starting point is 00:56:13 victimize Georgia's DBs. They should be able to. able to do that against Missouri. The difference is Ty had time against Georgia. Kept it high too. I don't know. Keeps it high. Maybe he has time against Missouri. But that's the great unknowable until we watch the game start to unfold. The game script, I think itself is very important because you mentioned Amad Hardy, Jamal Roberts, Booper Bula. All of those guys can run the ball. If you get up, kind of like FSU got up on you in week one and force Bama into obvious passing, come from behind type mode, I really worry about the pressure they can get on Tye Simpson. If you flip it though, and you've got a situation where
Starting point is 00:56:52 Bama's controlling and you can't use that ground game as much as you want to, love Bama. I am going to buy the slightest of margins. Bank on Missouri having a little bit of a scaling issue here against a much better team, but I'm terrified of the spot. That's why we're going up there because you said you're ultra-confident in it. I got no confidence at all on either side of this game. I'm very slight lean Alabama minus the points. Nothing would surprise me. Last time I went to Missouri, there was a walk-off field goal and they stormed it against Kansas State. So that's two times for a field storming would be either a streak or a trend for me at Missouri. I'll tell you what aggravates me, though, is they're shutting down the weight room Friday for Tebow to work out. T-bo needs the whole
Starting point is 00:57:34 thing? They're shutting it down. You're saying, Josh Pate, future commissioner of college football. This is. Can't share the same weight room as Tim Tebow? As we're recording. I mean, Eli Drinkwitz made it official. Just Tim and Jesus. Nobody else is a lie in there. Including me.
Starting point is 00:57:48 That's got to be a little bit ridiculous, right? It just, I'm not going to say I'm angry about it. I'll say I'm a little hurt by it. Yeah. Like, sorry for caring about my fitness too. Hey, Tim's not the only guy who wants to look out for himself. Yeah. So because of that, I think Alabama probably deals an L this weekend in Columbia.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And afterwards, Eli Drinkwitz has to look out. to think would it have been different had I been more hospitable with my weight room? It's just sad. It is sad. It's sad. We'll get this clip. We'll see what we can do with it. Yeah. I see all the numbers. I see all the stats you guys going with.
Starting point is 00:58:20 I was at a game earlier this year when the defense had a bunch of those similar stats and the team they were playing against rush for 286 yards. So until you've like played somebody, it's like all these numbers are going to be skewed. What game was that? I don't want to say. It's not personal. Oh, oh. But I'll give you a hint.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Head coach might go to Penn State. Just the head. Just nasty, nasty show. Not nasty. I'm not being nasty. What do you mean nasty? Just keep padded me on the head. This game with pat on the head, doc.
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Starting point is 00:59:18 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 00:59:34 So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call. about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
Starting point is 00:59:50 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
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Starting point is 01:01:00 They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears or tears of laughter, and dive into it, unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of My Cultura Podcast Network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:01:23 What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level.
Starting point is 01:01:38 that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,
Starting point is 01:01:53 he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. Hey, that man, hell get the flying.
Starting point is 01:02:10 He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's the next game? We got true classic game of the week. True Classic Game of the Week. Every Saturday's got games, but only one fits just right.
Starting point is 01:02:32 This is the True Classic Game of the Week. We got Indiana, number seven, at number three Oregon. Kurt Signetti versus Dan Lanning, Oregon favorite minus seven and a half. Total points in the game is 55 and a half. Week seven. Yeah, we're halfway through the season. Week seven. And yet again, we're asking about Indiana facing quality competition,
Starting point is 01:02:55 first elite team they've played all year. No disrespect to Illinois. The last memory I have really of Indiana is probably the same one that both of you think of. And that is we take off in Lincoln, nice competitive game. going on Illinois, Indiana. We land bodybagging. Yeah. Splattering. Whatever adjective you want to use. Yeah. They're zipping that thing up over Illinois. Insignetti, by the way, talk shit before that game. Sure did. And now what did he call? He called landing. He gave him some kind of accolade. He said like a young phenom really respects him. And he deadpanned it. He didn't laugh so you know it's a setup. He's basically, he's narrating their hype video in press conferences.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Yeah. But Indiana's hype videos never really circulate, so they just watch it internally. I've never seen an Indiana hype video. Me either. This will be in the Indiana hype video this week, but I've never seen one. So they went to Iowa. My point with the Illinois game is that's not the one to think about. That was at home.
Starting point is 01:03:53 They have gone on the road. They went to Iowa. This was a 20 to 15 game. That was a really close game. Didn't cover. And now, that was one of the six and a halfs. Yeah. It was one of your boys there.
Starting point is 01:04:05 It was six and a half. This one is not six and a half. This one is seven and a half. Yeah. Down from nine and a half at the beginning of the week. So a lot of money, a lot of people really love in Indiana here. I think I may be one of them. I think Indiana is going to really go up there and challenge them.
Starting point is 01:04:24 You know Dan Laining watches the show. I think in a way, Dan Nguyen... Go ahead say something about Dan Laining. Well, this is a young phenom coach. You know? Yeah. This is a guy... Let's go ahead and say why you're doubting him.
Starting point is 01:04:36 I can't confirm it. I'm saying I've heard some stuff about Dan. Oh, no. What I'm saying is, do you think Kurt Signetti closes fridges with his hip? I've heard Dan Lanning does, unfortunately. Like, isn't it low-key the biggest test of Dan Lanning's career here? Isn't this when we find out about Dan Lanning?
Starting point is 01:05:01 Isn't this when we find out about that entire organization up there? Because people are talking. People are talking about how, fraudulent the Penn State win is. People are saying, hey, big deal. The team that UCLA handled took you to overtime? Why couldn't Indiana handle you? Why couldn't Indiana do some business in your backyard? I am not those people. I'm listening to those people. Like I'm the messenger. You're kind of buying what those people are saying. Because you're taking Indiana. The people are influencing me. And we're picking games against the spread. We're not picking straight up here. So you can
Starting point is 01:05:33 go win by a field goal. You can go win by a touchdown. I just don't know if you're going to win by a seven and a half or more. If Oregon only wins his game by a field goal, is it really a win? That's a great question for the playoff committee. Yeah. Because it's like all these rumors swore around Dan and his hips and how he opens gatorade bottles
Starting point is 01:05:52 and Kurtzignetting using a Will Compton price, patting him on the head a little bit in a press conference. Listen. You only win that game by three. God forbid go to overtime. Yeah. I got so I don't know. again. So I got text
Starting point is 01:06:09 right after. So I had a tweet. I saw Signetti's press conference. I saw him talking about landing young phenob. Phenom in the college world. Love him. High respect for him. And I tweet. Signetti's lost his fastball.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Like this isn't what has made Signetti great since his time showing up in Indiana. This is a guy that talks shit. And not only talks shit, he backs it up outside of the Notre Dame game. Got the whole goop. Got all the stuff out there. Right. But he kind of, I felt like, he's lost a massive step. So I get a random text from an Indiana area code. And all it says is his wife calls me Big Nettie. Oh no. And I said, I said, excuse me, who is this? And then
Starting point is 01:06:50 another one rattles off. Dude's got a PhD and hype and an elementary understanding in the second half. I said, is this coach Signetti? And he said, a lot of respect for Dan Lannin, young phenom in this game. I love his highlights. You know who else loves his highlights? Incoming Ohio state recruits. I said, buddy, you got to stop talking about my boy like this. And then another one comes through. He recruits players like he's collecting rare sneakers all flash. I said, what does that even mean? And then he goes, all he does is recruit five stars. And I said, is there a punchline of this? He said, fuck Dan landing. And then three cigarette emojis came after that. I never heard from it again. I don't know if that's Ignetti,
Starting point is 01:07:32 Indiana Area Code. I'll be able to pose a screenshot for everybody. Are the Ducks dead? That's not good for college football, but that's terrible for Oregon. I think Oregon beats their ass. Again, this is another team traveling out to the West Coast. And I'm saying,
Starting point is 01:07:51 Oregon's going to whip this Indiana ass this weekend. Seven and a half, I love this pick. I don't think. And that's what you scare everybody that I love this pick, but it's an ass whooping right here. This is a SCO Ducks. This is a SCO Ducks.
Starting point is 01:08:04 This is a SCO Ducks game. Have you ever seen one? We can't have the, Number one, what we can't do on the show, we can't let the fan base, we can't let Dan Lanning see anything that we just talked about. But I love the Oregon Duck. If you're the Oregon Ducks team, you're watching every one of our shows and making sure Dan Lannin cannot see what Wilcox has what Wilcox has read to the world. Dan Lending does not hear outside noise. No.
Starting point is 01:08:23 That's confirmed. I don't even know that he has internet. I actually, I don't think the whole state of Oregon has internet. I don't think they have it up there yet. That seems like a little bit of a shot. Okay. That seems the little unnecessary. No, no, I like Oregon.
Starting point is 01:08:34 The grass is green in Eugene. Very green. Very green. The amount of different kinds of trees they have up there. Great trees. I mean, Gene knows what I'm talking about. We sat there and basically hallucinated it under a tree for three hours. And we didn't take anything.
Starting point is 01:08:46 A lot of good trees. Just in the air. Animal House was filmed there. It sure was. One of the best movies of all time. You've seen it. Tell me about it. Great movie.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Yeah. Talk me through the plot. A lot of great trees in the movie. Yep. Oregon. Tell me about Pluto. Dude. Love.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Oh, yeah. That's the fucking man, bro. Hey, the man. I wasn't looking. I wasn't even looking. Hey, so you get it, man. Yeah, you get it. 100%.
Starting point is 01:09:14 As much as things change, they also stay the same. Week 7 last year, Indiana was undefeated. They wouldn't play to Ohio State. They lost that game by 15. I don't say it changed anything here. Oregon's going to mop the floor with Indiana. No disrespect. Great program.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Kurt Signetti, awesome guy. I'm assuming future friend of the show would love to go check out of Indiana sometime. Yeah. Am I right? Yeah, they pushed it down our throat. So I have nothing. I got to have nothing but respect.
Starting point is 01:09:38 I'm just when I'm looking at this game, I just see an ass beating. But a lot of respect for signetting the Indiana Hoosiers. Yeah, give me the points in that game, Oregon. Great. I'm taking them. I'm actually taking the points. Do you have anything to Sway us at all?
Starting point is 01:09:55 Can you hit me with one of these at all? Do you have a paper popper here for Indiana? I do you have anything? I really don't. All I'm saying is I think Indiana has the QB to keep them in the game, to trade points. Like, when we were talking about Ohio State and Illinois, that's one where if Ohio State's got three tuddies on the board,
Starting point is 01:10:14 I don't really trust Illinois to be able to trade with them. All due respect to Alenheimer. All due respect to him. Oh, He's going to say, Oldheimer. Underrated Doc. He's going to be a guy. He's going to slinging. Again, USC, you're probably not putting them in the powerhouse tier of college football,
Starting point is 01:10:28 but he was trading with USC. That's wonderful. He needed to. He didn't think he will against Ohio State. 20 for 26, 325. You just have that stat line memorized? Yeah, because I thought it was, I thought it was, it was great. It was great.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Great to play a quarterbacking out there on the football field in the Illinois. What would be great is if I went and looked at a stat line and that's not even close. And you rattled it off with such conviction. Boom, Almaheimir. Yeah, I just think they can trade points. So I think it's going to be a one possession type game. That's it. I think I got Oregon winning.
Starting point is 01:10:59 In their stadium? Yeah, in their stadium. $55,000. That's what I think, like, I feel we talk about a lot of. of these games and we talk like it's being played on a neutral site and it's not it's like dude traveling out there well yeah college game day's gonna be out there yeah sure is sure is sure is why they go man just like it was the last time that we were out there at a game but that was which was a one possession game yeah but that was Ohio State yeah oh it's just Indiana
Starting point is 01:11:21 this is just yeah did you did you text that back to the unknown number I need to yeah and you're just Indiana yeah lose my number three cigarette emojis three cigarette emojis Oh my goodness. God. I was like, I got to delete this ASAP. That's too much free time. We can't have Oregon Pee's in Dane. You know, Dan Lennie, he might not have internet, but he has a way to hack your phone.
Starting point is 01:11:44 He'll see it if you don't delete it. No, he knows. I tell him all time, brother, do not look at what's going on on the internet. He's like, gotcha. Is there a world? Is there a world where Lannin goes to states in the Big Ten, goes to a Verizon store, purchases a phone, activates it in the respective area, codes of the other big 10 teams and on that burner trashes himself to you before Oregon games and is such a psychopath that he still feeds off of you reading that on air because the answer is yes
Starting point is 01:12:15 and that's what makes me love the Oregon Ducks even though yeah that's that's the best I could come to switching my pick that's the closest that came to switch in my pick all right let's get into the dogs of the week dogs of the week some underdogs this week that we're liking that we feel like are live dogs. I alluded to mine earlier. It's Florida. And that's why the dog, dude, you missed them by a week. Will's against the spread trends with Florida. I'm over. I took them, what, two, three weeks in a row there thinking like this wounded animal, I'm telling you, this is a good football team. And then it's like, all right, I think they're actually dead. Poked them with the stick. They waited. They dead pulled me. And they popped up out of nowhere.
Starting point is 01:12:58 They passed me. They handled me. They passed me. They handled. They passed me. handled Texas. After that by week, I think they have some new life. I think A&M could be getting a little too big for their britches. I like this spot from Florida. Like, let's just see some more Florida magic. Running the football, lagway dicing them up, the defense being alive. Like I like Florida plus seven and a half this week at Texas A&M. Why not? Billy Napier, going to be the Florida head coach next year? Well, I keep telling, I keep being told it's inevitable he gets fired, except that he's not fired, which allows him to win a game every week. So he won last week.
Starting point is 01:13:31 I think I agree with you. They're going to keep it close this week. We'll see. Coin flip game. But Gator Magic is real. For all of what should be October for South Carolina, feels like I got to create a term for Billy Napier in October. Because maybe he's en route to saving his job twice in consecutive October.
Starting point is 01:13:49 That's a streak. Yep. Trend or a trend. One of the two. Billy Tober or whatever we're going to call it. I got bad news too. I heard that if Matt Ruhl doesn't go to Penn State, his second biggest pick is Florida. So Billy Napier needs to pick.
Starting point is 01:14:00 But it's got to be open. Just like Penn State. It's got to keep his job. It's got to keep his job. And then it's irrelevant because Matt's not leaving Nebraska because that would be bad for college football. That would be bad for college football. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Imagine Matt Rule going heel on all of college football? Because if he leaves Nebraska, he's a bad guy. Well, he's got his own show. Just go heal on your show. He creates his own narrative. God, he really is leaving, isn't he? Oh my, I didn't even think about that. He's got his, that's what the whole podcast is about.
Starting point is 01:14:27 House rules, I don't see an end in there. Oh, what an angle that is. You know what I'm saying about people make podcasts and it's like, you know. It's team specific. Yeah, team specific. I'm the head coach. I'm going to put like a Nebraska N in there or some sort of corn. So what you're saying is if he's wrong and A&M does win Saturday,
Starting point is 01:14:49 the Florida job theoretically could come open. Yeah. At which point you think a discussion would start to happen about potentially maybe possibly some candidates that would make certain people sitting at the table, not to mention any names, uncomfortable. I'm saying if they lose to A&M and Billy and Napier finally gets the axe. And Nebraska does what people assume happens in year three under that head coach. It's a horrible.
Starting point is 01:15:21 That's a horrible concoction for Nebraska. You almost want to lose if you're Nebraska. Like go 8 and 4, 7 and 5. And they, oh, I guess it's a year 4, Matt Rule. Well, they can't this weekend because the model loves Nebraska this weekend. The model of Nebraska against Michigan. I got UCLA plus 9 and a half against Michigan State. It's a little personal for me because I hate Michigan State.
Starting point is 01:15:46 And I, dude, Nico. Even Tennessee fans are kind of like, all right, good for him. That's good. That's awesome. Do they win this game? No, do they cover? Probably not. They probably, you know, they probably drink their Kool-Aid a little too much.
Starting point is 01:15:59 You understand they're like 60 college games on the board per week. You don't have to settle for one that you think probably won't hit. He ain't even trying to turn his underdog. Because I look at every single game and I like do my own little narrative in my head of each game. And I look at it. I go, all right. I take them. And I get to the show.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I'm like, I took UCLA. Plus. Not a letdown spot at all. When 24 hours ago, I sat there, I was like, that's fucking genius. So yeah, man. Let me get UCLA. generational talent, Nico, interim head coach. Beautiful.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Yeah, yeah. Beautiful. No chance. They're still celebrating that Penn State. No. No chance. No focused. Well, this is a meat and potato.
Starting point is 01:16:43 That's a blue collar program. UCLA? Yeah, notoriously roll up your sleeves, meat and potato, onto the next week, process oriented. There's a reason why their stadium's an hour away from the campus. Yeah. Distractions. Distractions.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Can't have it. Can't have it. Texas Techs looked really good this year, right? They're undefeated so far. Clearly the best team in the Big 12. Got a showdown next week at Arizona State. But there is the small matter of them having a game this week against Kansas. Kansas under Lance LivePole kind of quietly did what Billy Napier did last year.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Nose was diving and then they pulled it up around this time. I think they're doing it again. They're a 14.5 point dog at Texas Tech. I think this is going to be a knife fight. And I'm taking Kansas plus 14 and a half to get the cover to push Texas. Texas Tech for like the first time this year because they've won every game by 24 plus. And so I think this is going to be a good challenge for them. Then it's going to make some people doubt Texas Tech as they go to play Kenny in Tempe next week,
Starting point is 01:17:42 which is low-key exactly what Joey McGuire needs. They don't need to win every game by three touchdowns. So I'm doing him a favor by almost beating him, but not quite beating him this week. Kansas Plus 14 and a half. Texas Tech is also undefeated against a spread this year. They sure are. They've not only covered every single game, they've double-covered. And Fanduil, aware of that and even knowing that, this is the number they put on this game.
Starting point is 01:18:04 I trust them. I trust them to set a fair number for me. Now I'm going to take Kansas because I just think they're a little underrated. Trust our partners. Yes. They've never let us wrong. All right, quick break from the episode to shout out our boosting with the boys profit boost. If you don't already know, if you don't already know, the boys have a profit boost token available every college football Saturday.
Starting point is 01:18:26 that's a profit boost on any college football Saturday bet. Just open up the Fandale Sportsbook app this Saturday and look out for the boosting with the boys. PBT, that's a profit boost token. Back to the episode. How about the weekly parlay? Who is your dog's week? My dog of the week, Florida.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Oh, that's right. We're back on the wounded animal. Back on the wound up at the wrong time. My weekly parlay, I also took the wounded animal, Iowa State, after what only the Nebraska cornucers could do. They couldn't beat Cincinnati. I like Iowa State. You brought up that game how it wasn't it. The box score didn't say what...
Starting point is 01:19:04 It's 31 to 7 at one point, yeah. Dude, was it a... Cincinnati running back? Put his face targeting. Yeah. And that safety's chest out once but twice? I think the officials were so stunned. Second one was more of a runover, but that first was...
Starting point is 01:19:19 Yeah. Most guys, yeah. Most guys have been at the waist. That guy bends at the chest now. But I like Iowa State getting back on track against Colorado. Never been a fan of Colorado. Never been a fan. Colorado hater, anti-Colorado? Not anti-Colaroid. I'm just like, I just, when all the hype was happening,
Starting point is 01:19:37 and then they were like, you know, they retire the jersey of Shadur Sanders. One of the Colorado greats, yeah. Locks the Alamo Bowl. Like it's like, what are we doing here? What do we do? Let's retire a game in Bakhtiar's jersey. Taylor's sitting in his recliner just hate watching everything Colorado. I was like, I was like, I was iffy about them.
Starting point is 01:19:57 I was iffy about them and then I saw them in Lincoln, Nebraska and I thought, this is the worst coached football team I've ever seen. That was a bad time to see them. Yeah. That was a bad night to see him. They go to the ship a little bit, obviously. They had themselves in a Big 12 championship conversation towards the end of the year, but Iowa State. Okay. Rockville Becked.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Matt Campbell. For reasons related to players that don't play at Colorado anymore, you are laying the points with Iowa State. Yep. Which I hope you're right about. We need a rebound. We need them all day. You got to have it. So I'm taking Arizona.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Brigham Young's undefeated right now, and they're going to Tucson, Tuxin, as it's spelled. I am going to take Arizona. I think that they are going to win the game outright. So Fanduil is very generous. Our partners often are. They're giving us one and a half points with Arizona.
Starting point is 01:20:42 I will take them to win outright, gladly take the point in a half. So maybe they lose by a point and we're still right. I think they're going to win outright. I don't love the spot for Brigham Young. I don't know. shit about BYU. Have you seen American Prime Able? Yeah, yeah, I have. Ever since that show, I've been out on BYU.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Yeah. They give, give them a bad look. It's a great breakdown. This is one. Yeah, it's the breakdown. Just to follow up, I also don't know shit, but I did watch that show and that is, can't have it. Yeah, yeah. This is where I, it's where I just trust your, uh, from the start to. Trust what you're saying about Arizona. Yeah. No, no, it's, we covered, we covered Arizona when they went to Iowa State. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, I'll say, you know, some of them, BYU, I just don't file a whole lot of BYU football.
Starting point is 01:21:32 No shot of California. Super Soaker's out there. Yeah. I'm going Georgia minus three and a half at Auburn. This is one where it's like, you know. Wounded Tiger. Yeah, wounded tiger. At home.
Starting point is 01:21:42 You're right. You're right. Night game at Jordan Hare. Yeah. But. Great receiving. There's a, there's some stuff bubbling around college football, and I kind of just want to, I'm ready to just see some drama a little bit.
Starting point is 01:21:55 I'm ready to see, I would love to see Georgia to whoop this team. Then you get some Hugh Free's talk and Auburn. Oh boy. So I think Georgia's going to be ready to go. Hugh Free's, like Hugh Free's leaving, getting fired. People will be talking. I didn't want to bring this up. But if Matt Rule had a third choice.
Starting point is 01:22:23 It was Auburn. Auburn rules. Oh, great podcast show title. TM, that's ours now. Great podcast show title. That breaks my heart. It sounds like there could be a lot of dominoes about to fall. It sounds like in college football right now, we're the night before the 2008 crisis happened.
Starting point is 01:22:45 And all of America's laying their head down on their pillow, completely oblivious to what's ahead. And everything's about to take a nose dive into the ocean. And I feel like maybe just maybe with what's been set around this table in confidence today, in confidence just between us, that there could be some craziness about to happen in the coaching world. Not one, not two, but multiple jobs, a streak of jobs, if you will. Opening up, they said it couldn't be done anymore because they said NIL was making money real. And you can't afford to pay buyouts now because you've got to pay the players. So all these coaches are going to stay around forever.
Starting point is 01:23:18 And all of a sudden, we're in week seven? like these teams have half a season to go. Multiple big time names, multiple big time jobs, potentially coming open? God. Could it happen? It could. It's a big storyline.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Yeah. Yeah. I agree. You got another zinger with my boy? No, I love that rule. There's no zingers. I just hate being that guy that has to say all these things. But you know what you got me thinking when we're talking about Parley's?
Starting point is 01:23:48 This boosting with the boys' PBT winner from this past week. This person bet $5 on an 8-Leged Paralite that was plus $258,050 and he won. $12,907. Four money-line picks. Alabama over Vanderbilt, Florida over Texas,
Starting point is 01:24:05 UCLA over Penn State, Virginia over Louisville. They also took four different games, the totals under. Virginia at Louisville, Alabama and Vanderbilt and Alabama, Kent State, Oklahoma, Boise State, Notre Dame. A legs, 250
Starting point is 01:24:21 $28,000 plus $258,000. Hey, that's amazing. Florida over Texas and UCLA over Penn State on money line picks. Oh, I mean, you know, if you listen to you, yeah, obviously Florida. It should have been my parlay. It should have been your parlay. I mean, who takes UCLA over Penn State? A psychopath.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Yeah, an absolute sicko. Sicko. Makes you feel really good about my dog with a week pick. The guy knew Nico was a generational quarterback. Generation talent. Yeah. Absolutely. Man.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Boys, hey, great show. Great show. show great show have a lot of fun let's win them all good luck to you all thank you we can't all win them all but good luck to you guys we can all have fun somehow we're all gonna end up three and two again yeah separation happens in november that's fine everyone i'm still having fun in october yeah cocktover spook tober gault let up his schedule for our boy jp ovie he had a dream though and the game cogs don't know if you heard jp had a dream okay and in this dream they play what four top 10 teams and like the number 11 team in the country in the month of
Starting point is 01:25:27 October and the first week of November, which for our purposes, or purpi, which is the plural of purpose, is going to be October. Despite all of that, J.P. had a dream. And in that dream, it's 2006. And he picks up his iPhone. And he looks at it and he's got a text. It's not from Kurt Signetti. It's from Shane Beamer. And Shane Beamer says to him, Bro, let's run it back. Tell me what that means. Great show. Great show, boys.
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