Bussin' With The Boys - Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff First Round Games W/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

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Where do we even start? That's a great question. I know. You seem conflicted. Mentally, you're in a lot of different places right now. And that ad read was not one of them. It was not one of them. But a pro does what a pro does.

He does what a pro does. You ask where we are. I'd love to know where you are. It's more of like I'm thinking of all the headlines that have been going on. This is like you come in at the shop and we just get on the show. So we haven't had time to sit here and talk about all of our little, the internal dialogue that's happening, whether it be Michigan, whether it be, you know, the portal movement, whether it be.

Nebraska Hoops. Nebraska basketball. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Nebraska, Michigan's sitting at the top of the Big Ten. It might be a fun March. So that's where my that's where I am currently. And then I'm like, what are some things to ask Josh about that I want to learn more that I want to learn more of?

Here's the best part about that question you ask yourself is you don't really need to know what you need to ask Josh. I called Josh seven times this weekend. At least. And one of those times he answers the phone, we start talking. He goes, hey, let me just take over this conversation for us. You're going to ask me this and I'll answer it like that. And then you're going to ask what about this because you're a smart guy. We think the same way.

So I'll answer the question like this. And truly, I'm like, he really is checking all the boxes I need for this conversation. It was so bad. You called me. And let's say you called me at 9.31. And I had a 935 meeting. And you ever be in a conversation with someone where you know what they're calling for? You know where it's going to go.

Let's just cut the time in half. And you know it's way longer than the four minutes you have. Yeah. I'll ask the questions for them. Then I'll answer him. So he just sat there. And I just walked him through his conversation. And at the end, he said, that's pretty much it.

Have a good day, man. Yeah, and you know what? He made that meeting. He made that meeting. I did not know about. Do you see the fodder I was building on last sign on Twitter? Somebody tweeted Josh Payne as the king of knowing stuff five minutes after it gets reported. And I just said, amen, dude.

It was after that Jurassic Park water gift. That's been circulating this week. And really this season, you know, both of you could help me on this because I do in the group text, which is encrypted so no one can get into it. I do occasionally tell you guys what the water gift means. Have I or have I not bad at 1,000 on that this year? I think you have. I've let you know. So, like, you can vouch for me.

You can be my alibi because I can't let the public know what the water gift means. Like last week, I found out DeBore was going to put out a statement. I thought it was going to be on Friday. So I put out the water gift on Friday. Now, it turns out they didn't release it until Sunday. The T-Rex wasn't as close as you thought, but you knew it was there. Yeah, it was big T-Rex down. You didn't hear them.

That's why the water was moving. So, yeah. Yeah, people have been claiming that I'm engagement baiting. I don't even know how to turn monetization on on Twitter, so I still haven't made any money off of it. But I am engagement baiting and click baiting. What is your statement to people saying that you're engagement baiting? Isn't it farming?

Farming, whatever. It's been a good crop yield this year. It's been a really good crop yield this year. Are you engagement farming or not? I prefer engagement farming because if you go click baits, baiting, then they start calling you click bait. Yeah. And then Alex hit you up and says, can we make a t-shirt out of that?

And I say, that's not what we're trying to do here, Alex. We might have to make that. Yeah, you might have to do that. Exactly. I can't be a good conscious profit off of that. Just a glass of water. It sits right there. Anytime my hater comes out, like a hater comes out and tries to go out to Josh,

we just threaded underneath by clickbait plate. Clickbait here. And you know what makes him such a pro too is I ask him straight up, what is your statement about it? And his statement really wasn't even a statement to claim whether or he was clickbaiting. He just likes the phrasing of the names better, which brings us into the Michigan thing.

Which brings us into Michigan. Because Kenny Dillingham and Kailin Dabor, Kailin-Diborkems comes out of a statement. Alabama fans, geez, he put out a statement. He said he had a press conference. And then as a Michigan fan, we would look at it and go, well, he didn't really,

he did kind of like laugh and say yes about 2026, but 2026 is January 1st. Yeah. What happens January 2nd? And then Dillingham's like, I'm all about people in my camp. Like, well, I don't know. Like, I'm here for my people

who are in the trenches of me, all these things, mental warfare, but doesn't really say, I'm for sure going to be at ASU. So Michigan fans are sitting there everywhere, sitting the house on fire being speculation saving, this is going to be, one of these guys are going to be our guys.

They're witnessing games being played. Like, we know as players, like, anytime, like, when agents got hold of us, like, there's a way to go about the game with your messaging, with your words, and everything else. And it's like, even though DeBoer put out the statement and had the presser

and was answering questions in the presser the way he was, Like I wasn't completely sold that he's sitting here. He's like, he's not shutting it all the way down. Right, which is smart. Even if your goal is to stay exactly where you're at. Like, don't just shut it down. Now you lost all leverage.

Yeah. He talks about the way the team is handling the distractions. He's not, yeah. Where is everybody? All right, so I used to, when I would watch coaching searches happen, and I had nobody to talk to, no source, no nothing, I would just watch it purely as a fan. I would think that there was this huge game being played behind the curtain.

which to a certain extent there is, but the game doesn't work the way you think it works. All right, so we fast forward to modern day. I've observed it this week. Just as an example, I'll go over on the Michigan On Three site, and I'll look at the message board, because I love to see what fans are saying about it. And I love to try and match it to what I may know to be true and see what's real and what's fake. All right, so there's been this working narrative this week. You guys have probably dealt with this too.

You go on your show or you go on whatever platform you have. People know that you know Kenny Dillingham. People know that I know Kenny Dillingham. Anytime you advocate for a guy you know, that's misconstrued as, oh, man, he's like he's in on whatever the mechanations of this search are. And he's lobbying for his guy to get a raise and he's using Michigan as leverage. And like, I know the truth the whole time. And the truth is, I've talked to Kenny like five times in the past week. At no point, did anything even remotely coming close to that ever come up?

Same thing with, like DeBore, same thing with Alabama. It's just if I'm talking about Kenny Dillingham publicly, it's because I think he's a pretty good coach. I think it would be fun to watch him go to Michigan. If I were Michigan, I would pursue him. That's kind of it. We're sitting here, we're recording Wednesday morning, December 17th. I have no idea how the Michigan search is going to turn out. I don't know if Kenny would take the job if they offered it to him.

I do know he would listen to it because anyone would listen because it's the Michigan job. But if anyone is sitting there thinking, oh, this is as simple as Michigan offers DeBoer, DeBoer says no, and then it's just Kenny's job. It may turn out like that, but it's not Kenny's sitting there frothing at the mouth waiting for the job offer and just anxious to throw the deuses up to Arizona State. He's got a really, really firm root system at Arizona State for many different reasons that are unique to him in Arizona State. So he may take it if he gets offered.

He may not get offered. It's just assumed that we understand the pecking order at Michigan is it's DeBoer and then probably Kenny Dillingham. For the record, I think that's why. what it is. I don't know that though. You could probably shed some light on that. Because you can see out of the Michigan hood a little bit more than the rest of us. We're just looking at the car from across the street. Yeah. I think the problem that Michigan has right now is there are essentially three or four

different camps trying to make the decision of what's taking place. So we had a congregation on bus one of the boys on money about if I was essentially if I could just do whatever I wanted, who would I go after who might have one be. And my answer would be Kenny Dillion. I've talked to guys that he's coached with. I've known him for a very long time. I know the kind of guy he is from an integrity standpoint character standpoint and so he would be a perfect fit to go up give some new blood to michigan a new energetic mindset can fix any offensive problem and then put a great defensive staff around him i don't know what that noise is but oh the dude's detailing outside it's okay no that's that's christmas christmasin's the voice you gotta love that's part of the show

this brings me back to the train when we're on the bus when we first started the show trade's going by i got a good story about that after you get if i was if i was if i was if i was just say, hey, I have to pick a coach. My coach is going to be Ken Dalyam. If I could just choose whoever it's going to be. Even Kailen, I think Kaelin, him leaving out there. Oh, you say over Kailen? Yes. Okay. I think he's, one, I don't think Kailen's going to leave. I don't think that's an option. In the perfect world, like, if it goes, then the thought process of how many of those aliens do you bring

from Tuscaloosa to Ann Arbor? Now all of a sudden, does Michigan go from like, what's going to happen to 26 to? We're looking at a college football playoff team. Like, yeah, that's exciting. But I'm talking about the next 20 years. who's going to be our guy. I think Kenny Dilling fits that profile for Michigan perfectly. But then I started to think about it more. And what Michigan has is a much bigger issue than who the next head coach is going to be at the school. They have no president. They have an interim president. The AD is kind of sitting there.

And internally, they don't know how long he's going to be there. The Board of Regents have a meeting. They decide, like, hey, he's going to be there for now, but there's no long term. So if you're head coaching, you're walking into a place that foundationally is cracked everywhere, my now thought is stick with Biff Pogie for 2026. Gary Moller was a head coach at Michigan in 1995. He had a situation go down where he got fired from that job. And the interim head coach was named in there.

His name was Lloyd Carr. And he was there for over a decade. Yep. So I've been told by players and by other people that the kids have all said, if Bif Pogh is a guy, we will stay. And so if you are. taking from a PR standpoint, we got to get this whole, like,

I've had people in the school be like, this whole Michigan man thing is dead. Like this isn't just outside noise. Like that whole phrase on Michigan Man thing, it is dead and we need to bring it back. What better way to bring it back then? If you sit there and go, hey, we clearly have more issues than just who the next head coach is going to be.

We need a top-down foundation who's going to be the leader of this ship. We're going to name Biff for 2026. By the way, you play Oklahoma, you play Indiana, you play Ohio State, you play Penn State, and you play Oregon. That's who you play next year. So that's an absolute gauntlet for a guy to come into losing 30 guys if he were to come in. If I'm hearing is true, make Biff the Intermed coach.

Use 2026 to find true leadership from a president standpoint to figure out what you're going to do with your AD. And if it's still the same thought process, let's say Alabama has the same season they do next year. It's like probably easier to get Kailin DeBore now, isn't it? If you're looking at Arizona State and it's like, okay, we want, we want Kenny, but Kenny's still has this belief that ASU can be this perennial blue chip program. Next year, if he goes eight and four again, the reality sets in. It's like ASU is unfortunately like it's a state school. It's not like it's not in Michigan.

It's not an Ohio state. It's not Oregon, Ohio State, Nebraska. It's not a school that like the world is talking about. It's really the region that you're sitting in. And it takes longer for guys to figure that out because a lot of coaches going to ASU. They fix the problems that take place. They have some level of success. They think, oh, this is the new norm.

And then a bunch of shit bags want to come into Tempe, Arizona, because the weather is awesome. The girls are beautiful, and you can party hard. And so it takes people longer to get there. So maybe you can get the same guys in the next couple of years, or next year, without the price tag being as high. That's kind of where I've sat since Monday when I was like, we need to go after Kenny Dillingham. I've kind of looked at it from like a more of a 30,000 foot view. And it's like, well, Michigan's got way more problems. Why not fix those problems?

It's a better look for the school. And Biff Pogie, every person I've ran across is like, these kids absolutely love him. And then just back him with resources. You still want to be competitive. Biff, bring in your guys, NFL caliber quarterback coach, a good O.C. Give these kids what they need from a development standpoint and play 2026. And it, fuck you, that's a gauntlet, dude. Like, it is a gauntlet.

So then if he goes seven and five next year, it's very easy to go, hey, we figured out all the pieces. Now let's go find our guy. What is your thought to that? I don't think, I think it's viable. I think there's a line on the piece of paper, so you have one candidate, three candidates, five candidates, and then there's a line. Wherever the line is,

that's the point past which you're not willing to go because anyone below that line is too big a risk relative to just keeping Biff. Yeah. I don't know how deep that line is on the piece of paper. My guess is probably four candidates deep. Let's just guess. All right, here's the problem,

and it's little apples to oranges, when you look at an interim situation in the past, versus now. Kids can say they'll stay if the interim is maintained. There's no way to hold them to it. True. There's no way. I agree. And if you say kids, let's say there are 50 kids in the locker room, 60 kids in the locker room. All right, let's say 32 of them come to you and say, hey, we're all staying. All right. That means you, the consensus based on what you've heard is every kid we've heard from says they're going to stay. Well, the ones who aren't going to stay probably don't have a lot of motivation to articulate that to you. So there's a reason why it's like people who only tell you you look good, man, you look good, you look really good. Well, no one really wants to lick you in the face and say, you look kind of hideous, man.

But there may be a lot of people in the room that think you're ugly. They just, you're not telling you. So it could be similar to that. And also, it could just be that a kid says one thing and does the other. Because once there's a difference between a hypothetical and Michigan having a press conference saying Biff Pogi is our interim this year. And then 13 schools coming your way, offering you as much, if not more than Michigan's going to pay you. and saying, we're set up to win a championship next year. You guys have to play that schedule with an interim head coach

that pretty much the whole world knows is only going to be there one year. That would be the pitch. That would work on some kids. And so I just don't know if you can afford to go that route in the portal era, but it still may make sense to go that route, if that makes sense.

That's why I think you really, if you put your crosshairs on Kenny, you just got to offer truly you can't say no. And there is a school of thought, by the way. I've talked to some people about this. There is a school of thought that if you're going to go hire a guy who's like top of the mountain, if you were trying to get Marcus Freeman or Kalin-Dabor or someone like that to come to Ann Arbor,

they're probably not coming there unless they have a full understanding of the 80s situation, the president's situation, they're going to require full alignment. There is a school of thought that a Kenny Dillingham maybe and Eli Drinkwitz, like someone like that, would almost look at that situation as a little more advantageous for them because they walk in and they get to be a little bit more the center of the world instead of the world already existing and them just being dropped into it. Now, I don't know if they think that way, but that's a school of thought that's out there.

Yeah, I just think if you're a decision maker looking at wherever the line is, like you have your top four or five candidates, and you're being kind of imprisoned to the thought of, I'm leaning to stay Biff Pogie because the kids want them to stay. Like, to me, that that's a recipe for disaster. Unless the decision makers truly believe that Biff Pogie is a head coach, he's head coach caliber, like it's a guy. that they want, not at all.

Like, you take into account a little bit that the kids want them. If you're leaning like, we want Biff Pogh to be the guy, then you have the sign-offs by the players. Like, that to me is like secondary. That would be like a secondary part of the decision if I'm looking at who I'm going to bring in as the next head coach. What did you just get done saying about Sharon? Not you, like a lot of people got done saying this about Sharon.

They were saying after the USC loss, after the Ohio State loss, they were just looking at the situation saying, if Sharon were, if our job was open right now, And Sharon was on the open market. Would we hire him? And the answer was pretty much no from everyone. I'd ask the same thing about Biff. If the job were open and you're free to go anywhere you want to and you're just working with an open pool of hiring candidates,

would Biff be the guy? If the answer is no, you shouldn't be your interim. Unless it's a really drastic situation. I feel like it's becoming, it does not feel like for Michigan, it's a very drastic situation? There was a tweet that went out. Like, this Michigan scandal is the biggest scandal in college football since the last Michigan scandal.

Like at this point, I just think like it seems like there's a lot going on. And I'm sure there's a frame of thought from Michigan. It's like everybody's just associated with the last five years. Let's get him out of the building and just start fresh. Yeah. Which I understand. I'm just trying to think of what is the best long term move for Michigan. Because let's say Kenny does take the job.

I'll be wording from. We all know Kenny. Like we want him to be successful. Is he going to have, is he going to walk into the mission that we have right now and truly be successful right away? I don't know that answer. as opposed to if you give a guy a year, Biff, and it's like, hey, you get to lose for the year, you understand, we understand, you got to take this,

and we're going to all limit our expectations on everything because you've got to let up a schedule, and we're going to find the right coach, and it could be Kenny, and going into 27, well, now you have your president, you have your AD, he's been the choice. All the boosters are behind it in the world that we live in now with NIL. Now it's coming into a much more foundationally put together school

as opposed to this kind of mess that's taking place. Yeah. But it goes back to your thing of, do you want to be a center of universe or do you want the universe to exist and be dropped into it? And that's just basically their mindset. Because whoever is the next guy, I just want them to be successful. Yep. And it seems like this is, I've gone from, this decision has to be made before Christmas. If you're going to hire a coach, like whether it's DeBoer or Dillingham or whoever, it does need to be before Christmas.

But if it goes on past that, we just got to punt because no one's going to transfer, none of that. It's like, just keep these kids together for a year or as many as it'll stay. that say they're going to stay and keep it moving. I'm just thinking in Biff's shoes. People want me to have the job. But it sounds like I only have the job for a year. Yeah. Think about who Biff is, though.

Coach it like a rental car. Yeah. Like Biff is a self-made multi, tens of millions of dollars guys, started his own hedge fund, got into coaching, coach high school football because he just loves high school football. Met Harbaugh started doing offensive line drills in a hotel room. with him on a dresser and he's like you're you should come and work with us he's been a part of it goes takes a job at charlotte doesn't work out for him comes back as like this analyst type of guy like

dude's not doing it because he needs money or legacy he wants to eat coffee hoggins ice cream and hang out with his wife kind of need that at michigan right now kind of need a guy who's going to eat too much ice cream and hang out of his wife right it kind of might be perfect for michigan right now so but i don't disagree like is biff going to walk away from this and he's going to have a bunch of calls for the head coach? No. Yeah. He's not. But if kids are saying they're going to stay, which you're absolutely right, there are guys that are going to leave. Why not just keep this dude in here for a year? And a kid might feel some type of way, but I'm telling you the way these agents and their teams operate behind closed doors. They make that pitch to him. Like,

you can't, you can't trust what's coming out of these college players mouths nowadays. No doubt. No doubt. I would love to see the domino fall of DeBoer because then we have a whole then you're on Lane Kiffin. We have a, oh, well, yeah, I guess potentially Lane, but then you have a whole other drama series opening up with the University of Alabama. And poor Alabama, who's really had Nick Saban forever, goes to get to a guy who was at Washington,

played in the national championship, and like, all right, we're set for the next two decades. And then all this shit goes down up north and they just get uprooted. Poor Alabama, man. No, no, there ain't no, poor Alabama. They got cradled into this college football playoff that we're about to talk about.

I will remind you guys if you were to check the odds. It's cradled. It's cradled. I would remind everyone, you know, the New York Giants job is still open, right? Yeah. Mike Tonlin. Well, Marcus Freeman exists, too. Dude.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey. I'm a big fan of Freeman. This is a paidism that doesn't just, it doesn't just casually. Yeah, that doesn't just get casually thrown in here. This man doesn't give a shit about the NFL. He just brought up the New York job. Right.

Out of nowhere. He had to Google where that was. Yeah. The New York Giants job is open. You guys know they built MetLife Stadium. And you just brought up. You guys know they got a new stadium out there. We're driving from New York for all people watching.

And we're gonna get back to that just again. We land in New York right now. We're driving by and would you say you're like, man, how long is MetLife Stadium here? And we're like, I think it's been here for a while. Like over, he's like, no way. And then you're longer than 10 years. Oh, for sure. That just shows how much you just, you see their letters NFL.

NFL. He thought the MetLife Stadium. I'm a venue guy too, man. I know my venues, but I just, I lost track of time. MetLife is the kid who you saw when he was a baby, and then he shows up at family reunion, and he's 13 years old. He's got a mustache, and you're like, where did the time go? Yeah. I look at MetLife, and he's

my 13-year-old cousin with a mustache, and I wonder, where did the time go? Yeah, where you have a pulse on everything is the college football world. Again, you just went, you just went out there, hey, the New York Giants job is still up, and you never cared about the New York Giants job. Now it seems like you know a little something about the New York Giants job.

If you have it's your cousin. I just think Marcus Freeman is going to be in play for the Giants job. I think a lot of people in the college football administrative world know that slash expect that. The agency world know that slash expect that. Not a done deal. I'm not going Schefter. We can press him and kind of corner him when we get up there and we can ask him what he knows about this. But my whole point is if it's even a remote possibility and it certainly is, then that means the Notre Dame job may be open as well. So the coaching cycle is not close to done yet. Because you don't just bring up Marcus Freeman as something you saw surface level on a message board or Twitter. I think the world just ended. Yeah, I hear that. I think that was it.

We're dead. We're just living on our own. So this is what it's like, huh? Yeah. You know a little bit more. Not a whole lot more. Not I'm saying you know, enough to know like this will be a serious that Freeman, New York. Yeah, he's going to get a serious look. It's a serious. Absolutely. He is getting a serious look. Yeah.

No, what I don't. So I, when it comes to NFL job openings from the college perspective, I have racehorse blinders on. I have like one angle I can see it from. Yeah. So I have like one sliver of the pie. The rest of the pie got no clue about. Got no clue.

Are you a portal guy? You know, any direction Nebraska might be going in the portal? I got Pete Nacos's number. What do you want to know? I just want to know who could be on the target list. I'm sure all the top quarterbacks are. Yeah, see if NACOs can give me a swords beats number. If you heard the name DJ Lagway,

would you feel excited about that or nervous about that? Excited. Yeah? Yeah. He was on Josh Pate's top 10 SEC quarterbacks list in the first season. Number one. Did you see Josh Pate do his, hey, we're going to look back at our predictions for the year?

Talk about Ofer. Yeah. No, I'd be excited. I think any quarterback that has the ability to be like a dual. threat, possibility and can sling the rock around. It would be wild to see DJ Lagway. Yeah, let me just warn you. In a Husker jersey?

Let me just warn you about potential. Potential is like hope. It's a really, really dangerous thing. Don't fall. Don't fall for it. Can I tell you something? Yeah. You said those words, he didn't hear one of them.

Yeah. Because this is, that is, just will in a nutshell. You got to make him show you. You said some of him and there was three years here and three weeks from now, we're going to pull, literally, the start of the new year, we're going to pull up in Nebraska Cornhusker schedule. And you go, boys, my crazy to say 10, 2, 11 and 1s off table?

This is not a floor we're standing on. That's 10 wins. Okay, that's the floor. I do nothing but... We're going to win the Natty. I do nothing but consume potential. Hope is a fickle thing, Will. Be careful.

No. We went 7 and 5 this year. You know the potential and hope I was buying into before the year started? Yes, you do. You know what the exciting thing is? 8 and 4. Floor.

Floor. Floor. Floor. You have the schedule next year. You got a one too? Yeah, we play them all. That would have been catastrophic. We play them all as well.

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So, hey, we're starting True Classic Game of the Week. That's what I'm hearing right now? College Football Playoff. College Football Playoff. True Classic Game of the Week. Every Saturday's got games, but only one fits just right. This is the True Classic Game. But we go at number nine, Alabama versus...

Number eight, Oklahoma, Kailen Boar v. Brent Venables. Oklahoma won their last matchup, 23, 21. Right now, Alabama's favored in Norman. And the total points in the game is 40 and a half. William oh me you can go to I'm going to Oklahoma I'm going Oklahoma and people are probably out there saying like wise will will's anti Alabama now I'm not a anti out my fight has never been against Alabama my fight has been against the system because it's broken and it's nothing but corruption yeah crimson

corruption crimson corruption they just happen to be part of it because they did like the way that they ended the year they got you know they had their big bad you know father, big conference in this situation, come in, deep state college football, swaddle and put a pass in their mouth, tell them it's going to be okay, you're not going to fall a lick in these colleges. We're going to protect you as much as we can protect you because we have another mission and that's the ACC and that's squeezing out Notre Dame football. So my fight's always been against the system. Not as much Alabama. They just happen to be, they just happen to be, you know, that target that I'm looking at. But I got, go ahead. No, no, no, no. I'll let you

finish. I have Oklahoma here. Because Oklahoma's at home. I'm kind of favoring these teams that are getting to play at home, getting that juice, the energy that they'll have in Norman, Oklahoma. I'm envisioning a healthier Meteer because we saw the way Mature was going, your favorite before the season started for the Heisman. I just, I think a healthy mertier. And then I also just think something is up with Ty Simpson.

You look at his, the first part of the first, the majority of the season, he was throwing for about 70% completion rate, 2,800 yards, 22 touchdowns, 2 interceptions. A Hizman candidate. A Hizman, a dude who is in the Hizman conversations. Love me some Tye Simpson. Keeps the ball high and tight. Don't forget Alabama. Keep the ball high and tight.

I've been an Alabama guy throughout the year when I picked you. But over the last three, Ty Simpson's thrown for 54 percent, averaging 160 yards of the year, four touchdowns, three interceptions. And we got to watch. We watched the SEC championship game. And something just looks off. Could be injured. And so my mentality is Alabama going out. to Norman, Oklahoma. I like Norman. I like a healthier material that they're going to continue

to stop Alabama's run game. I know Oklahoma doesn't have much of a run game either, but I'm rolling with the Sooners. It's a small line. They don't want to run. Yeah. And then again, if you're leaning on Ty Simpson and I'm of the belief that something's up with Ty Simpson, I'm just not, I'm not getting in that foxhole with Alabama. Okay. And if I've had this stance of Alabama shouldn't be in the college football playoff, I'm kind of sitting there seeing if they're going to drop this game. I almost need him to lose so then I can continue to beat that drum that they made the wrong decision. This has nothing to do with the choice you're making of which team. But if Oklahoma does beat Alabama definitely adds to a spicy storyline.

Definitely adds to a spicy storyline. I've never been a believer that the playoff results have anything to do with the selection process, i.e. last year, a lot of people thought SMU shouldn't get in. I thought they should have gotten in. They got their doors blown off in round one. I still thought they should have been in. It's just they played a much better team on the road and they lost. But you get judged on your body of work in the season,

not retroactively what you did in the playoff. So having said that, I slightly lean Oklahoma, but I think I've got a better side on this. I think I've got a better angle on this. And I think it's the under at 40 and a half. I feel the best about that. Because I do agree with you about Ty Simpson. So last game, when these two teams played about a month ago,

they got their offensive production. Bama outgained them 406 to 212. They had a 23 to 12 first down edge, but it was the turnovers, and they weren't freak turnovers. They were forced turnovers. Oklahoma did a great job, punching the ball loose, taking the ball.

And I wonder if Alabama's taking a top 30 caliber passing attack into Norman. On paper, it says they're number 23 in the country, but we watched them the last month of the season. I was going to say, on paper, it's kind of helped fluff them. As well as they performed in the first, what, eight weeks. So you've had two weeks off. They are getting Josh Kwaivas back, Parker Brailsford at center, a lot healthier. You're hoping you get healthier.

If they are, like if that switch clicks again for them, they could throw for 300 on Oklahoma because they already did. So did Ole Miss. So did Tennessee. So that's been done a few times this year. My concern is twofold. Number one, maybe it's still not there, in which case you're talking about winning with 17 points on the board and hoping you hold them to 13. And then secondly is Bama's been dominated in field position against Oklahoma and also against Georgia. Against Oklahoma, I think, oh, you had four drives starting Bama territory.

And Bama didn't start a drive past their own 25-yard line. So Oklahoma just tilted the field as hard as I've seen in any big game all year. Georgia did something similar to Bama. If they could correct the field position stuff and if their offense is just a touch better, you don't need a ton of points to beat Oklahoma here. Everyone knows that. Bama's defense has been playing really, really good. good ball. It's just that their backs have been put against the wall by the other two-thirds of

the team. So if they can play a standardized game, I would probably like Bama to win the game. There's no guarantee I get that. What I do think I'll get to a low-scoring game. So I'll take the under at 40 and a half. Do you think that John McTeer, him getting healthy and having these three weeks to rest his hand, when he heard it and we knew what the injury was, this is an injury that, the only thing that fixes this injury after surgery is rest in time. Because before he got that injury. He was sitting there at a Heisman front runner. You're your Heisman guy, correct? He was the front runner when he got hurt. Right. He was the front runner when he got hurt. And he was a guy that was dynamic with his legs. He could put the ball anywhere all over the field to go

throw it deep to the sidelines on a missile, a little arc on it. Like he was doing things like, oh, this guy is a first overall pick top 10 type of guy. Now we've gotten these 21 days for him to sit, rest and do some rehab on this thumb. When he comes back, you're kind of rooting for him because you're like, oh, what a guy's got. Like he's over in Chipotle talking shit. being like, I'm playing this week. I'm doing all these things. And so we've kind of seen them, they lose to Texas, and then we kind of all just forget about Oklahoma and they just, you know, continue to win and do their thing and then make it in the playoffs. The thing that's the biggest thing for me is, one, they're at home. They're a great team at home. Alabama,

watching their skid the back half of the season, like just kind of not put it together. Their top 23 offense, but then we watched them against the SEC championship. We watched them against South Carolina. We see all these things kind of take place, and it's like, all right, they're getting healthier, but they're not as healthy as they can be. The questions with Ty Simpson, like we love them. High and tight, he's dabbing the boys off as the game's about to start.

But I just think a healthy John Matier in Brent and Venable's defense is the thing that gets this done. So I'm half with you. The first half about coddling, swaddling, and loving on a baby and having them be Alabama, I'm out on that. And I support you and good luck with the Crimson. the Crimson Colt, not my, not my fight.

The fight isn't against Bama, the fight is against the system. Okay, fair enough. So you believe the system's right. You believe the system's, you're a system guy. You're a system guy. I think the way we talked about the system,

I think Alabama's in that, the way I believe the system still should be made. We agree. So I don't think Alabama. He says process is broken. Process is part of the system. Process is broken. Alabama, fix the process.

And I'm assuming our brains, because we think very much alike, based on the conversation I have, where Josh Pay took it over and asked all the right questions. I think Alabama's still in there. But based on how they finish the season, John Mateer getting healthy, I like John Mateer.

I like Oklahoma. If Alabama wins this game, remember when we were doing the alt cast, I said like 37 different times because there were 37 different instances where it was warranted how bad Bama was missing their tailbacks. Not because they were going to run the ball for 4.8 yards per carry

because they couldn't incorporate tailbacks in the passing game. All right, so Jan Miller's back in this game. So that's a really, really important thing to watch, along with Quavis being back and along with their center, Parker Brailsford, not dragging a peg leg around trying to start. So if Bama does win, that's why it probably happened. But I just feel so good that at least one team is going to have their offense really throttled,

maybe both of them, down to the point where I think the under is the safer play for me. And then also, Oklahoma's just got to do, like, keep to themselves these last couple weeks. Yeah. It's been about just John Mateer getting healthy because we understand the hand and the rehab. A lot of is just some rest and everything else. But they've just been able to work in the lab, be in the weight room.

Nobody's talking about them. Nobody's bothering them. Alabama, you need all of these things that kind of, you're hoping this gets back on track because of what we saw in the first eight weeks is something going on with Ty Simpson. Not to mention too, DeBorge is being in all of these,

in all this conversation with coaching. There are distractions going around, and I have no doubt that the Alabama teams handled it well, but we all know that that can play a factor. And then you've got to pack up and go on the road to Norman, which again, I think will be a big X factor for Oklahoma on Friday. Josh, is there a possibility that Alabama goes on a scorched earth type of thing like Ohio State did last year? I don't.

There's an outside chance. If they were to get the guys healthy at the right time, then they could look like the passing attack that they looked like earlier in the year. But remember, even when they were humming, like it's such a fine needle to thread. They were still winning close games. The Vandy game, I know it was a double-digit game. The Tennessee game was a double-digit game. Those, like, turned on one play.

Yeah. There was a pick six down there the goal line in the Tennessee game right before the half. So they still have to, like, thread the needle. But the answer to your question is yes. I'd have to see it to believe it. Is it? The answer to the question is yes. You believe Bamba could go on a run and win the national title.

Here's what, here's my question. He was their original picks. I know, but I also want to pretend. I also want to pretend. Like, part of me thinks like, does he think that they can really win the national title? Or does he know his dad? Savannah watches the show. They have, they, they, they, they, they like, themselves in Bama.

He knows the truth, but he's like, I gotta go home. You know, I got to, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta let him know that there is an outside. An outside pulse. Wow. What's up? Wow. That's heavy. With what, in regards to what?

Josh got it. Let him answer the question. He's asking a lot of deep questions about Alabama here to be an anti-system guy. There was a question from the audience that is kind of leading me to believe that maybe it is a little more personal between you and Alabama than you've, let on. There's some, there's absolutely some personal ties in it because everybody sits up here and they're all so pro SEC about everything else. I'm the guy. It's the system protected Alabama to be in this college football playoff. The way that they ended the year, they are not a team in my

opinion that should have been in the college football playoff. So knowing that, knowing that that's my feeling on perspective of watching the game, understanding the system and everything else, do I think that they can go on a run and win the national title? I don't think that they're a football team that can win the national title this year. Josh. Clump just handed me a trivia question. Name the first team left out of last year's college football playoff. Taylor.

Alabama. That would be correct. This man talked about, I'm against the system. I'm not against the Crimson Guide. And all it took was one question to pull the thread. And you'd be like, I'll be honest. SEC bias. Switched up.

Everybody sits up here. Every single person sits up here. Who literally sent on the bus in the beginning of season going, SEC has the most death. And my mouth, my jaw hits the ground. I'm like, bro. What happened to you? We've been a pro, like,

it's been very clear. We've been biased Big Ten guys this whole time. You're like, bro, what's the truth? And now it all comes back. You just mad that the elephants back in. This is blowing my mind. Buddy, your words produced mine. Yeah.

the system the system I can't be more clear here I'm here you're talking to me brother I know I got you the system protected Alabama to stay in the college football playoff except for last year when the system

boxed Alabama out hey come here I'll tell you this right now the system did not protect Alabama Alabama earned the right to play in the SEC championships when you have multiple other team and I gave you I gave you I I gave you your chance. I let you speak.

I let you speak. I can do the back and forth thing if you want for a little bit. I can't be interrupted. I'm sorry. Talk to me about how you agree with the system of college football. I don't agree with how the totality of the system works. But if we're talking strictly about Alabama, Alabama was given the right to play in an extra game.

And for you to hurt them so bad that they can't play in the playoffs now would take away from all championship games. So if you're saying, hey, we should get rid of championship games, then we can have a whole new conversation. But as it sits right now, you can't let Alabama be out of the playoffs after Ole Miss and Oklahoma and A&M are also in, and they weren't good enough to play in the SEC championship. This is a much larger conversation because it involves several different teams to where if you can't sit there and see that deep state college football, there was zero, zero punishment for that ass whipping in the SEC championship. And then you saw punishment going on with other conferences, the Big 12, BYU, at large rankings. I'm not talking about the college football playoffs.

I'm talking about at large rankings. If you can't see the puppeteering that was happening to manipulate the system, squeeze out another football team that I won't name because everybody's like, oh, you want Notre Dame in the college football playoffs? No, no, no, no. You can sit there and look at it and be like, they got squeezed out. And if you look at everything that happened, all the insurance policies that were put in place to make sure that happens. Virginia couldn't win the ACC title game. I don't know how else to explain it. I know it's getting directed to me. It's just Alabama, SEC bias, everything else. But this is a much

larger conversation because the system failed this year. The system was broken this year. Can I tell you something? You just talked about the system and how much it's failed, but not one time brought up why Alabama should be out. BYU was never in it. Hold on. BYU was never in it. Notre Dame, I understand your argument. unfortunately your argument is incorrect. Notre Dame, Notre Dame lost to Miami and they had a head-to-head against another team

and Miami beat them by more later in the season. No, okay? So. Time-out time of what was that? What was that last part? Miami beat them by more. That played no factor in Miami getting in the playoff. Miami is in the playoff not because of their head-to-head win

Miami's in the playoff because Virginia lost the ACC title. I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree. That's what ended up happening. However, if I sat there, I said, look at it. Taylor, who should be in Miami and Notre Dame? It's clear Miami should be in over Notre Dame. Yeah, yeah. It's not best. That's just where, yeah. It's not best. It's most deserving. Alabama didn't do nothing. Yeah. All right. They had the right to go play in the game. They had the right to go play the

championship. They earned it over everybody else in that conference and they get their ass whipped, no doubt. There's, if you take them out of the playoffs, it's dead. And that's crazy. Alabama did nothing wrong here. BYU was never in it. They were a placeholder for these G5 teams and you and I are very aligned on how G5 should not be in it. So BYU, you can just crumple that throughout the window. Miami, Notre Dame, I understand your argument, but the reality is you're talking about best. I'm talking about most deserving. Both of our arguments play if we live in those worlds. Oh, okay. But Alabama did nothing to you. I see where I was wrong and I see where my anger has been zeroed in on Alabama being in. And me going as far as it's,

say they should be in the college football play. Hold on a second. And that is where I spoke out of both sides of my mouth there. Because when I'm making the argument about the system at large, it came down to, hey, there's also a world where I can see Alabama as long as they fall back a slot, but there was zero, there were zero repercussion from what happened. What we saw in championship weekend. You hear that? So I agree that my anger got very much directed toward Alabama. My anger got very much directed toward Alabama. But the system at large broke. I think we're Okay, I think we're okay. No, he was doing the deep state college football thing. We can't shake hands? No. You apologized. I'm like, oh, great, that's growth.

It's not over. Let me shake his hand so we can come back together. No. You're still mad? No. Okay. All good. Yeah. All good. He was doing the thing, right? He was doing the deep state college. So you're on Oklahoma. Yeah, Oklahoma. For a multitude of reasons. I'm on Oklahoma. I think Oklahoma is the better for me. Because I think they're going to win and you're on the under. I have no idea what just happened. dealing him no it was a it was a 205 area code number they heard some stuff was happening on the show anger directed at the crimson tie couldn't shake it's weird argument but i i see you're in so it's it don't don't like that like that's the problem like there gee because you said no you

said i you by you saying i understand will's brain just heard it's okay for me to do what i just did and we can't have it when someone's when someone's wrong we it's okay for them to sit in it no no no i See, you did this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back, you did this. I got too zoomed in. I got two zoomed in. Because my zoom out, it wasn't when I'm talking about it all at large.

Again, really, the at-large ranking protection that happened in the ACC and the ACC is. Is where my anger is about the system. Can I take a wild guess at what game you're taking, who you're taking in Miami, Texas, A&M? Notre Dame. Notre Dame being both them teams right now. I don't know if you're my love. Yeah, I know. It was kind of sad to watch Marcus Freeman

tap him on the leg at the Heisman ceremony and be like, we'll love for him to stay at the year. He just smiled and nods and he'd be the way. It's like, buddy. He gone. Wish you boys the best. Yeah, wish you the best. But Freeman, sounds like he's gone too.

May both be gone. Who knows? Go to that brand new stadium at MetLife in New York. Brand spanking new. Next game. Let's go, man. Nicole Boltro? Superior bragging rights for Superior Liberia.

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Yes, we will. You guys have fun, man. I keep forgetting that you're not going to do. I love my family. I know, I have a couple masters. ACC biased. Yeah, Wilson, this is a great opportunity for you to be like, I'm not going to these games. This game's in South Bend, Indiana.

This game's in South Bend, Indiana. It might mean A&M, neither of these teams deserve to be in. Notre Dame should be playing in this football game. A&M lost one game. To Texas. At the end of the year. Fraud alert. Fraud alert.

Columpe, I'm pushing my heart out back. I'm going to text you. Do you have a hard out? Do you need to go? The hard out is not hard enough to where I can't change it. So let's just continue. I just, once we talk deep state college. That hard out didn't think of those parts.

I had to move my heart out back. Yeah. I don't have a big feel. I lean that, again, in this first round, especially between the games with Oklahoma, Alabama, I lean in favor of the team that's playing at home. So I'm rolling Texas A&M in this situation. But I'll be, I mean, Miami has weapons. They have the defensive line.

They can get after the quarterback. So yeah, but so does fix A&M. Yeah, so does A&M. So does A&M. He wants to run the ball. Miami does a great job against the run.

Which quarterback's going to show up? Which version of which quarterback's going to show up? Marcel Reed. Who do you have? Honestly, I go back and forth. I really did not make a decision until I sat in this chair and as I'm even speaking right now,

I don't really have a decision. A piece of me wants to go Miami. Now, the bias in me of not having a whole lot of respect for the ACC right now is really infiltrating my brain because I'm sitting here with the SEC and it's like, yeah,

people want to handle, Texas A&M because their schedule is really shitty, but it's still the SEC. And it's a lot faster pace. It's Kyle Field. It's, I mean, it's the cult, wait, what? He doesn't think that you said that. He thinks that that was planted in you by the deep state. It's still the SEC.

No, I'm alive because he just looks over at Gary, like, because it's still the SEC. It is the SEC. And it's like, there's a piece of me living in Nashville for a long enough time. It's like, yeah, that shit is pretty fast. They do operate a little differently. those defensive ends can really get after. That defense flies around. Marshall Reed can use his legs.

We. What, we? We play some good ball down here. I'm just waiting for we to come out of your mouth. That's when it's done. It is not we. It's not we. It is not we.

It's still they. They do a great job playing football down here south, down south. They do a great job. But, I mean, Miami's done a really good job against mobile quarterbacks all year long. Oh, yeah, tell me about it. I know. I've literally watched that. I got that information from your prediction show on YouTube.

That's your information. I'm just relaying it out here right now. What did you mean? Tell me about it. You fucking said it. He stares you right in the face. Like he's telling you something. He's like, yeah. I was saying, oh, yeah, that's right. I was watching. You don't ever doubt how much I love you because you have no idea how many times this year I've sat here and watched you have the audacity to look me in my eyes and cite direct statistics off of my show. I almost hit you with 48 total yards of dual threat quarterbacks. And I don't even break a smile. I just nod. That's great information, man. That's awesome. That's beautiful. Wow. I mean, you got to say it once. Let me get to say it.

Who were they? They were Byron Brown at USF. It was the kid at Virginia Tech. It was... Kid in Florida. A DJ Lagway. They played him. They played Kyron Jones was at Virginia Tech.

They played two more Jennings. Kevin Jennings at SMU. So they played five mobile quarterbacks this year. The mobile QBs had 74 combined rushing yards against them. So I don't necessarily know. This is just kind of segue to my point. pick. I just don't know if Marcel Reed's getting it done with his legs, which means if they shut down A&M's ground game, it's Marcel Reed throwing the ball. Three multi-in-tie games

in his final five. So he kind of tailed off. Yeah, he kind of tell it off a little bit. That's what makes you nervous. But on the flip side, okay, well, Miami didn't really run the ball to the degree I thought they would this year to begin with. They're in the 70s and rushing numbers and A&M will shut you down running the ball too. But the difference is A&M has the number one sack rate in a country with home field at their back on third down. And so I ultimately think it's a Carson Bet game. It's a Marcel Reed game. And whoever can get the job done on third down without turning the ball over three times is the winner. And if that's your prediction, that's where I'm going, you're nodding your head. I assume you kind of sort of agree with that. It's a really

high variance crapshoot of a game. So I just took the home field team that I think may be able to run the ball more consistently, but I have no strong field. So I'm taking A&M minus the points. I have no strong feel in this game. Yeah, I'll take Miami. I'll take Miami. Miami plus three and a half. ACC bias. Show me something.

This is the last time I'm going to believe in them. This is it? This is it, man. This is the last time I'm going to believe in Miami. This is it. You don't want a playoff game on the road as three and a half point dog. You're dead to me. Nope.

Yep. 100%. Yes. That's tough. That's where I stand. Improved every year down there. Don't let Miami get blown out. Don't let them lose.

Don't let Miami get blown out. that would be a lot of what you would think is a lot of armor or ammo yeah but it still wouldn't matter they can lose this game by 21 points dude they still deserve being over over Notre Dame that's your opinion what's your is your is I told you my opinion is we're about to talk about some games that are even more extreme like JMU Tulane my opinion wouldn't even change on who should or shouldn't have made the playoff if one of those teams wins outright. I don't base my opinion whatsoever on what the outcomes of the games are. I look at your body of work and I decide should you or should you not be in the playoff. So we disagree in Alabama.

I think they should have been in. You don't think they should have been in. But either way you think, to me, you should etch your opinion in stone before the playoff game start. Because if it's not, that's like if you, if you call a play on fourth and goal on the five yard line, if you're a coordinator, Once you call the play and it's in and the play starts, there's nothing you can change. So it's ludicrous for a fan to get to watch the play to see if it works out before they decide if it was a good call or not. And I think selecting the playoff field is the same thing. You think what you want about the committee. Put yourself on the committee.

Make yourself the committee. How are you choosing the playoff field? You're not choosing it based on how you think the playoffs should go or that's not how you should be choosing. You're choosing it on comparable body of work or comparative body of work. And you're trying to get the proper 12 teams in. I don't say the best 12 because that's not how we currently decide the playoff or else two G5 teams wouldn't be in. So I think Miami should be in no matter what they do. They could win or lose by 30.

Same thing with Bama. But I don't think, or let me rephrase, I don't like that the structure allows two G5 teams to get in. But even if they lose by 50 or pull an upset outright, I would still feel the same way. So I don't care about the results as it relates to who should or shouldn't have made it. Yeah, it's more of the chaos that gets to ensue on Twitter, which is what I'm excited about. If you want to see chaos, let that Tulane Ole Miss game be close in the fourth quarter. That's when the chaos would ensue. You would see more bad faith arguments than you've ever seen in your life.

You would see more people pulling old takes up of you, you, you, me talking about the G5, and they would say, what now? That's why I already preemptively... Dude, what now. Fuck you. That's what's now. You just got to have it in drafts. You just got to have it ready to go. Yeah.

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Sure. Spread on that game is Ole Miss favored by 17 and a half. Not a big shot. Over under, 56 and a half. This game happened already. Blowout earlier in the year. What was it, 45 to 10? It already happened in Oxford. That was Elaine Kiffin-led Ole Miss team. All right, so when I break these games, it doesn't make much sense for us to just make the case for who's going to win. game. Old Miss is a huge favorite. The way I like to look at these games is, is there a shot the upset could happen? I think there's a small shot here. I don't think JMU has any shot. I think Tulane's got a small shot. They got better athletes than JMU does. So at least you, you know, you got the regionality aspect. You got coaching churn at Ole Miss. When this game happened earlier

in the year, Ole Miss got up quick, 23-3 at the half, and Tulane had to throw their game script in the garbage, and they just had to try and throw to keep up. So if they could have something better than four of 18 on third and fourth downs. If they're able to force a turnover, Trinidad Chamble has not had a multi-INT game this year. If that were to happen, I don't know, like turnover, special team stuff. If you were to be able to pop them early and make it a four-quarter game, yeah, I guess anything that could happen.

Outside of that, though, no, I think Ole Miss is favored, favorite big for a reason. I'm taking them to win and cover, actually. Because this is, if you think about the point spread here, sometimes in college football in the season, when you have these big point spreads, it means you don't have the favorites full attention. Sometimes it's a letdown spot. Sometimes it's a look ahead spot. This is one of the only spots in college football where you have these big spreads, but you also know the favorite has 100% of their attention on the opposition. So you get the full weight of that team, whatever it is, whether it's Oregon or whether it's Ole Miss.

And that means they don't stop. They don't let up. What they try and do is get out of the gate extremely fast and be up 35 to 10. 10 so that they can coast in the second half. That's what their goal would be. I'm going to take him to win and cover because I think all the motivations there. And you got a coaching staff trying to prove themselves. Like people are asking, oh, what are they going to be without Lane Kiffin? They didn't name an interim at Ole Miss. This is Pete Golding's team. Like he's, he is getting his staff in place. They're trying to prove that they're of the caliber that you need to be to be an

SEC staff. And it seems like the roster is behind it too. That's what I'm excited about. So I like him to win and cover. Yeah, I mean, I'm taking Ole Miss. Like I've been, I've been, I've been having the stance against the G5. This is like a predator. It's a predator. Just throw out the bait type of situation when I'm looking at these, the Power 4 games we have

with Oregon and James Madison and also Ole Miss and Tulane. Like I'm taking Ole Miss. They're at home. They've already beat him before. Golding, right? Yeah. Golding. Him having this team and going out

to prove something with Lane gone and all the little things that you see from the players sitting on the outside of it after all this Lane Kiv and stuff in full. and seeing the excitement they have to rally around the staff. I'm fired up to see Ole Miss. I think they could make some noise, depending on how big they win in this game,

but I think you can sit there and look at Ole Miss facing Georgia in a rematch, and I'm hoping to come out of watching this game against Tulane as excitement on what is going to happen when they play Georgia again? Because right now it's like, okay, whoever wins this game, Ole Miss is going to beat Tulane, you're just assuming that Georgia is going to win that game outright. But if they come out with some fireworks, I would be fired up for that game against Jersey.

George. Yeah, that was one of the most, that game was one of the most fun games to watch all season. Was that Ole Miss, George. Ole Miss, up two possessions in Athens and still lost. Still lost. In the fourth quarter. I don't have a whole lot to say about this game. Shocker. Ole Miss.

Win and cover. Yep. Oregon, win and cover. Oh, two for here. This is a two-for-one-spash. Wow. If two-laner James Madison wins this game somehow, I will donate money to their NIL fund. How much?

I don't know. Name a number. A million dollars. No, sure. You'll donate $100,000. Cut in half, call it 50. Cut in half, call it 50. I'm just saying, whatever it is,

and be like, hey. Yeah, okay, I'll donate $50,000 to either to Lain or James Madison if they can beat either of these teams straight up. And I will go and I'll dress up in the entire mascot outfit and sit on their dieg. And I will apologize to every student that walks by me for the greater part of a day. Will you shave your head too? Sure, I'll shave my head. What else?

I don't know what you're promising to do. I'll get a nose piercing. Like, what do we? What are the things? Oh, I don't know. I'm just wondering if I'm sitting there excited seeing too late potentially upset Ole Miss. I'm not sitting there longs for. I've still on this G5 thing for a minute now.

It's like, okay, now is judgment day. I feel more confident than ever that these teams will not win. So it's like, yeah, you can put anything you want up there. That's what's going to happen. So I got both those. So you're going to dress as these mascots. One of them is just a wave. Yeah.

The other one's a Duke. Yeah. Don't know. What the other one is. I guess you could throw on the little green wave outfit. Yeah. But 50K. And then if they both win, you're stroking $100,000 combined check.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's good point. Yeah. Summerall's doing that, by the way. I need donate $100,000 to Lane on his way out. That is. You don't like that?

Bro. I just. He said my wife and I, we already talked about it. He ain't doing that if he's leaving. He's like leaving anywhere. Did Lane donate to the P. H-R-Four school. On his way out.

You know, Landis. He operates on his own accord. And no coached in there. Like, yeah, I kind of feel bad that I'm leaving them. That's the type of team that's going to Ole Miss this weekend. Yeah. Broken. They're going to be so jacked up for the first three minutes of that game and then it's going to be over.

And also they're like, yeah, I told you guys. Didn't deserve to be here. You didn't deserve it. But your problem is with the system, not with the teams. My problem is, no. Yes. Yes. My problem is the system.

Like, if a G5 team, like we talk about it, 12 and blowing teams out yeah throw their asses in there that'd be awesome to see these guys don't deserve to be in sad onward you know you know when in Jurassic Park the water starts to ripple yeah and that's when the T-Rex is approaching but you know if you fast forward we spoke about this earlier this week when you fast forward a little bit there's another scene in Jurassic Park where all the sudden you look up through the Ford Explorer sunroof and it's raining and it's dark, but all of a sudden that T-Rex's head first rises up above the canopy of trees and it throws that little goat in the back of its mouth and it just crunches down. That brings us to the

JMU Oregon preview. I think this is going to be bad. I think it's going to be really bad. I hope so. Like paint the walls with their blood, splattering, Sarah McLaughlin special, scorched earth. Dan Lannning is using you as a tune up for Texas Tech bad. So I think I'm going to take Oregon to win in cover. I'm with you. Just another movie analogy. This is like when in Gladiator, where they just throw unarmed prisoners out in the Coliseum, where the outcome's already decided before the gates even open.

This is just for entertainment more than it is about competition. You're standing there on the field in Otson, and that crowd is chanting, kill. And Dan Lannin says there and goes. And they kill them. And they kill. And then they die. And then we all just tweet, are we happy with all that? Are we happy with what we just saw?

Do we feel good? Yeah. And this close to Christmas, too. Yeah. It's unfair. Oh, and then your coach leaves. Yeah. Because that was pretty rough.

You guys play terrible. I'm out of here. None of you coming with me. Good luck to you guys. So this will be an ass beating that we just, we feel uncomfortable watching. Yeah. Turn off at a half time. Yeah.

It makes you move around in your seat a little bit. Yeah. Maybe I went a little too far with this one, is what you start to think. So we feel good. So you're also on Oregon that went in cover? Oh, absolutely. All right. Which gets us one step closer to Oregon, Indiana rematch.

We would just be one round away from Oregon, Indiana rematch, at which point there's no way Lannie can afford to watch that show. There's no way that he can afford to watch. You reveal the text that I know you'll get that week. Who say he hasn't got it already? He's not me. I haven't been talking to Big Nettie this whole time. Yeah.

You may not be the only one's been talking to him. Knowing him like I think I do. Dirty guy. Dirty guy. My dad spots dirty players. I spot dirty coaches. Yeah. So we're already calling, you're already saying it doesn't matter who get,

we're saying it doesn't matter who gets to the next round. Texas Tech's going to be out. one of the SEC teams between Oklahoma and Alabama. Do you think that Oklahoma or Alabama would have a better shot against Indiana, which is just a mind-boggling sentence? But which one do you think would have a better shot? I got a theory on that. I would say Oklahoma.

Oklahoma? I think Alabama would have a better shot because Oklahoma is so offensively limited. If Alabama is playing Indiana, it's because Alabama's offense was good enough to go into Norman and win, which means obviously the offense sort of bottomed out and bounced back a little bit and if then you get them on a neutral field you give them nine more days to heal up maybe you get LT Overton back

in conjunction with these offensive players I just think Alabama's offense at its best is way more dynamic and can test your corners also a little bit that's being glossed over we're not breaking down Indiana but they lost one of their best defensive players for the year in the Big Ten championship game.

I know that's not really being talked about a lot you know and high-fiving those guys that was just a freak accent yeah just celebrating with the fans and the shirt on and they're like yeah get the cart what happened he just jumped in the air and high-fived a kid and his knee buckled yeah yeah it's brutal man I'm more thinking of like a grittier game like let's say john meteer's healthier and that does make a difference because we all again got to see him before he had that injury then I just look at more of like the two other phases of the game being defensive special teams and I think if you're going to compete against Obviously, Indiana is going to not have their best defensive player.

But the way you kind of watch that Ohio State Indiana game unfold, if I'm picturing that for the game against whoever be Alabama or Oklahoma, I feel like Oklahoma would just be better suited because they have defense to match their defense. They have special teams where you can play the field position game. And then again, you're just, you're more hopeful that a healthier John material, like just somebody's going to make a play offensively if it's not, you know, a defensive turnover and score. Playoffs are here. Playoffs are here, boys.

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