Bussin' With The Boys - Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff Quarterfinal Games W/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan

Episode Date: December 30, 2025

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Visit Fandle.com slash Busson. to get started. Where do we start, boys? Happy holidays. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas indeed. And we were talking about separation. He was lying the same on that one, huh?

Yeah, yeah, he said it with some, some, oh. He said it like he, he was telling more than just a, more than just us. Some people will walk up to the line. Some people will go over the line. Yeah. I'm an over the line guy. I was more so saying happy holidays, like, we're past Christmas. New Year's is coming up.

Let's combine them together. You were speaking of separation. I mean, it essentially is like we're getting into the new year. Could I present an alternate theory? I don't think we're going to separate. I think we're together. I think we're together through the duration. I agree, 26.

We're all together. But as far as this record goes, the fact that you're even saying we're going to stay together is the first domino piece to fall for us finally to separate. Yeah. One way or the other. But we could be together on these games. You think so? I mean, we got six picks left, right?

Four plus two, plus one. is seven. Yeah. So how much separation could happen? Yeah. Seven games. How much separation? I was talking to you about some pretty wild prop bets.

If we allow prop bets in this thing, then it's total wild card round. Yeah. But if we don't, because it would be unethical, I don't really think we're going to separate all that much. And to be honest, that's probably good news for me, because I'm 39 and 43. And you'll take that. Yeah. Kids have screwed up a lot for me this year.

No doubt. How's the ramen noodle Express doing? Ramanoodle Express is above 500. Ramanel Express is 77 and 70, which is not like, like crush it, quit your second job style winning percentage, but it's a winning percentage. It's kind of like you had a wash of a season, but you did gain, you did win some money. Yeah, we ended better than we started. Yes. You're able to get a few powerball tickets.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Some scratchoffs. I would never send Mimaw cigarettes back home because Mee-Maw never smoked. But I could send the fam some things back home with our winnings this year, depending on what your size of your unit is. And, you know, to each his own when it comes to bigger unit is. Yeah. I'm very, I'm curious, which I'm sure the entire audience is. What does somebody, what does Josh Payt? What's a guy like Josh Payt get for Christmas? I got, should we guess first? Yeah, that'd probably be smaller. When he walked in with that, when he walked in with that Q-Zip, I was that a Christmas gift? Yep. Was it? I think it was, yeah. So after all the Q-Zip talk from Oklahoma, you get a Q-Zip for Christmas and you got a Q-Zit for Christmas. What side of the

fence you guys playing on. Hey. Let's go over the line. Yeah, what color was it though? I got the cusip that I dealt with? I got a black cu zip. That's fair. Yeah, it had no OU logo on it.

Yeah, it was not crimson, was not cream. It was black. I got this hoodie from Christmas. You strike me as a guy that your wife looks at you and she's like, hey, what do you want for Christmas? And you tell her, I don't want anything. I want nothing for Christmas. Yes.

Is that correct? Unequivocally, yes. Okay. And I'm not lying. It's not the reverse psychology thing. I want nothing for Christmas. Christmas morning. Congrats, babe.

you got nothing but a smile and I'm really in my feelings about it. Yeah. That's okay. Okay. That's okay. No man is a failure who has friends. I have friends. I have everything I need for Christmas. Yeah. You saw my hoodie. Is that Christmas gift? Yeah. Yep. Are those pants? Also those pants look new. No, no, no, no. I've been rocking these. These are the green jerks. Maybe just they've been through the wash because they don't look like they've been worn hardly at all. Those are the green ones every time I see you wear. I'm going, hey, where did you get those? You're like green.

Yeah, green, yeah. Yeah, those are special pants. Yeah. Those aren't, those are October pants. Those are, those are comfy. You look cozy. Thank you. Extremely.

I feel cozy. Can I ask you this, pivoting to some more football stuff? What's your opinion of Kyle Whittingham? I think you ended up. That was him right there. Give me a second. What does he say? Oh, no, it's John O'Rahov.

He helped me win three fantasy championships in a row. Oh. Statistically, our chance of winning three fantasy championships. Championships was 0.058%. It was a one in 1728 chance. So that's history. We can talk about that in the NFL show. What's your opinion of Collwoodingham? Do you have an opinion that's different than everybody else's? Everybody else is pretty high on it, right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty high on it. I think you're better than you were two months ago, so you upgraded. Doesn't it feel like, doesn't it feel like the stuff that if you and I would have talked about Michigan in the second week of October,

The stuff that you would have begrudgingly said to me off camera about the overall state of the program, everyone's just freely saying in the open, now that you hired Cal Whittingham, good, we're injectington solid football culture back into the building. Good, we're reliable, we're stable, good, no one's whispering, no one's hesitant to walk around corners in the building. That's Kyle Whittingham. Yeah. Kyle Wittingham is just a football guy. Occasional motorcycle ride during the lunch break, hit a stake at 4 p.m. at his desk.

Wait room guy. Yeah, solid weight room guy. Loves to get in the gym a little bit. But you're absolutely right. All the whisperings, people behind closed doors, the losers' mentality talk. You get in small groups, kind of talk a little bit of shit. All that is now out in the open for everybody to see. And yeah, I think no disrespect, but two weeks ago, I think Michigan got better from a football, from a football standpoint, coaching standpoint.

And now knowing where we're headed, because Kyle Whittingham wasn't like the sexiest name in the world. I didn't know a whole lot about him or about Utah since he's been hired. I've just been on the message boards, just a search bar on Twitter, Michigan football, Kyle Whittingham, and just, I'm only seeing Utah and Michigan fans come together over it. It's very odd.

I'm seeing USC fans be like, hey, that's a hell of a coach, Notre Dame fan. People are all over the place. Like, this is a great ball coach, and Michigan's a whole lot better. So it fires me up. I'm cautiously optimistic. I was trying to talk to anybody

that would listen yesterday about it, but it's really like January 2nd, if we can keep this roster intact and add a couple players, might be in some futures, but that's next year. One question. So it's, as we're recording, it's Tuesday, December.

Let's call it January 1st, 2026. Let's just pretend it's New Year's Day, which it will be in 48 hours. New Year's Day, 2013. Is he the head coach at Michigan? Five years. Probably not. Probably 232. 2031, because he's got a five-year contract.

He's as old as he is. But I think it's about stabilizing, maximizing the potential of Michigan what it is. And then once he rides off from the sunset, it's, bringing it to where we get the best guy available again. But this is, I think it's the biggest knock on Kyle Woodingham is his age. He says he wanted to get out last year, but this team went five and seven or whatever their record was. They go through the portal, they go 10 and two. He feels a whole lot better about it.

I personally believe there was the private equity thing going on. He might have got pushed a little bit. He's a guy that would never say that and that's why you love him more for it. But five years from now, I think he maximizes this and he rides off the sunset, leaving the program much better off than Charon Moore did. And I think that's a massive positive because you get a guy waiting, you groom a person, a DC or OC, or you know who the next best guy is. And now Michigan's playing a couple of chess pieces ahead of everybody else, similar to when we

talked to Ed Ogeron, and he's getting the third-party phone call going to a gas station. Someone's like, hey, you're going to be the next head football coach. Michigan can get to that point. It seemed like for the last two weeks, Michigan was in a situation where they find out about the Sharon stuff, and then they're scrambling to find who the new guy is. There's a much of names being thrown around, and they landed. They fell forward, which is amazing. So that's my thought in the next five years.

Did you have any, when the announcement first happened, you didn't know anything about Kyle Whittingham? I knew that he was... Did you have like sadness since it wasn't your guy Biff? No, because to me, at first I was like, I just need to know who this guy is. Because when it comes to Michigan, where I'm kind of at with my fandom is,

whoever's going to be sitting in that sea, I'm going to support 100%. So whether it was Biff, Kenny, Kaelan DeBore, the kind of three names are really popping around last week. I was, yeah, I was fully ready to support them. Once his name gets named as the head coach from Michigan, I just think, I know he wins a lot. I know he's been at a program for 21 years as the head coach and maybe nine years before that as like an assistant coach.

He's won multiple Pac-12 championships. It's a school like Utah where no disrespect to them, but they don't have the resources to be a top 15 school football team year and a year out, however they are. And that's leadership and stability. And I'm like, oh, this is a guy that absolutely is everything. that Michigan needs right now. So within an hour of him being named as the head coach, reading about him, like, oh, I'm all about this. I actually texted Biff and I was like, what do you think?

This is after he met him. And he's like, this is the guy is exactly what we need. If the kids already respect him, I think he's the perfect fit for Michigan. So even Biff is like, yeah, this should be the guy. Hmm. Would you like to tell a very, very brief 50 second to one minute behind the scene story that illustrates this thing you did? You did the air quotes when you said Michigan found.

out. It was really what you're talking about is there were whispers, there were some rumors, but no one really knew, no one put the train cars together. There wasn't solid evidence of anything, but there were whispers throughout the season. Yeah, whispers throughout the season. I think they... Oh, I was saying, I was going to tell a story. Yeah, I was going to tell a story. I thought you said, you, for you, 50 to 60 seconds. It's a story that involves the three of us. Yeah. Okay, so, uh, let's say about a month ago, probably, maybe a month and a week ago. It was the first time I went to New York where you guys did get up. And we walked into the production meeting, which you have at 680.

Eastern Time and it's Mike Greenberg head of the table and you got some production folks Hawks probably in there you got us three Schefters on the wall Orlovsky's on the wall they're on their way in like that's the production meeting setting and we got through the whole thing and then greeny said hey what about this Michigan job opening and he was saying those rumors aren't they and we ended up just kind of laying out for him what the situation was like we because no no no what happened was this is for the social edit later So Greenie asked about the job openings. He was talking about Florida and he was talking about Auburn.

He was talking about Penn State right before everyone gets up. Someone in the room who shall remain nameless said, hey, watch Michigan. And then everyone settled back in their seat. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, because Michigan's not open. This was before there was really a whiff of that publicly. And remember, he said, Michigan. Michigan's going to go like eight and four, nine and three. Michigan's, they're getting ready for the Ohio State game.

What are you talking about? And then everyone started to share sort of the rumors they had heard throughout the season. And the entire picture came together in that production meeting over like a five minute period and Greenie's jaws just on the table. And then sure enough a week later to the day, everything that we had said in that production meeting ended up happening in real life with the only added caveat, I guess that some stuff happened internally at Michigan that made it go public. There was a mechanism. There was an HR based mechanism. There was a legal based mechanism that made it all go public. And if I could have had like surveillance video, if we could have like a voyeuristic view of that production meeting, we just packaged that footage up. We could sell that.

Yeah, crystal ball stuff. We could sell that. Because everything that happened happened to a T. Because here's what was beautiful. Greenie is, he's a college football guy. But he's much more pro sports guy. Yeah. So he is in the weeds of the pro sports rumors and the free agency rumors and the coaching carousel and the NFL. And that's, that's nice and structured. When you come into the college football carousel world, It is a jungle with no parameters. It's like when a natural disaster moves through a town and everything just the civil society breaks down and you just revert back to caveman law. That's kind of the way a college football coaching search and college football coaching rumors are. And we were watching him every time you said something,

then I'd say something, then Will it'd say something, then Schaefter would say something, then O'Olafsky would say something. And everyone's kind of piecing together versions of what they've heard. We're all adding a rubber band onto the ball. And he's like, his mouth goes from this, to this to this and it was watching someone in real time get a sense of what it's like to live in the college football weeds instead of just to view them over in the ditch from the road we pulled him

in to the weeds i was going to say i feel like we we've brought some some more college football fascination to to greeny oh absolutely throughout the year throughout the season he's always been kind of curious and it really started like whatever was like third week in september and you came on and greenie was like who's this josh pay guy and then you did your segment via zoom And after you got off, it was like the commercial break. He's like, I think I like I like that, Josh Payton. I think he seems like he knows what he's talking about. Oh, and we were obviously giving you your flowers behind the scenes.

We're also shouting out our show much. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then every week, Greenie would get more and more enamored with Josh Payton's takes and what's taking place in college football. And I think the Michigan, the Michigan situation broke its back. Hooked him.

Yeah, between the weeks of the Michigan, LSU, with Kiffin and Ole Miss and everything else. Like that is, it's been prime time college football. popularity. As far as diving into all the weeds of everything that's going on. Yeah. Do you think there was any validity to Kalin DeBoer leaving Alabama? Nope. Zero. Nope. Did you, is this like, hey, we're going to talk about the outcome of the game after the game. This is what should have happened? Or did you know this had zero validity? I knew as far as I could know from talking to Kalin several times through the process it had zero validity. Okay. All right. That seems like a fair source. You know, I don't want to traffic in unsubstantiated rumors.

So in this new journalism 2.0 world in whence we live, you just got to throw your sources out there. So everyone's like, well, how would you know that? I talked to Kalin today, man. That's kind of how I know what I know. You may have a better source than Kalin DeBore on this as it relates to where Kalin DeBore is going to go. I'm just going off what the guy tells me. He's never lied to me in his life. So that's my, that's where I'm sitting right now.

Because you also lied to us sitting up here, talking about Marcus Freeman. Yeah, man. Let's recap. I've got it right here. Recap. I think the Giants are going to target Marcus Freeman and I think he will listen to them. The Giants have since targeted Marcus Freeman.

He probably listened briefly and said I'm staying at Notre Dame. Translation, you're a fraud. You lied to us. You lied to us. You lied to us. And I clicked baited him. Not sure what I wanted them to click on,

but I clicked baited them and I wanted, here's the harshest allegation. This is really the only one I care about. I wanted to push Marcus Freeman to the NFL. because you guys know how much I really traffic in the NFL. College football is a side job for me. I'm a big NFL guy. You're the pipeline.

If I can have it my way, I just build this gigantic funnel, and then I toss everything that's good about college football into the funnel to hopefully get it to the NFL. Piss on college football. Who needs college football? No, I want all the prized commodities, the great coaches. I want them all to go to the NFL. I'm going to lose the players to the draft within four years. Let's get rid of the coaches, too.

That's in my best interest. That's my business model, actually, to push all of the good coaches. and to completely kneecap all the great programs by pushing their coaches to the NFL. I'm glad you got that off your chest. That's paid state material. Yeah. And also Lincoln Riley.

They're all he does about him too. I'm not backing down on Lincoln Riley. Oh. That buzz was everywhere. Buzz was there. That buzz was everywhere. Buzz is no longer there. For this cycle, I would assume not.

Like the only way that would happen, and let me, which, when you look at my key shot, I haven't heard anything on this. Right. The only thing that would change that. The only thing that would change that is, if, which I haven't heard is the case, but if, like, he were to go the NFL route. I never hardly know about the NFL.

The only reason I knew about the Giants is because everyone kind of knew, yeah, the Giants are going to target Freeman. And that was the reports when it happened. So, yeah, other than that. But there was a lot of buzz about Lincoln Riley. Like, I was not on an island. If you know who to listen to, I wasn't even the only one who said that. So either everyone lied, we kind of collaboratively lied about it or no one really cares about doing that and there was buzz about Lincoln Riley.

But you're the guy. You are the guy. Yeah, I'm the face. You know about who to listen to. Like, if I ever hear a rumor, I just call you. Because I don't know anything. What's 22s? We'll talk about all of these conversations. Whether we give surface level, whatever, to the audience. We have all these conversations around the show. Like whether it's before the show, we'll be like, oh, snap, yeah, oh, I heard this. blah, blah, blah. We'll talk about it after the show.

But Josh, whether Josh says something, we'll just have this. Oh, yeah. Which just feeds it even more. He lied. Because everybody else in the same reaction as us. Oh, snap. When you told us post-show, I think that was the most mind-blowing concept we've ever heard. We're like, there's no, why would he, there's no way.

Just keep your eye on it. Keep around it. Throwes a grenade in the middle of our show. Yeah. Nobody was in the room. Nothing happened. Yeah, he had to put it back for a second. Should we get into the games?

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We got Alabama versus number one, Indiana. Indiana's favorite at seven and a half. Total points in that game is 48 and a half. I think it's opened up at six and a half, right? Yeah. Wait, what is it now? Seven and a half, according to the sheet that Ryan Nolan. That's interesting. That's an interesting development.

Yeah. Let me just ask one question. Then we can break the game down. What is the model set? Model says Indiana minus three and a half. There's a huge difference. Huge difference. Yeah, that's a big gap.

Huge difference. Is Indiana... I like it, though. I like Alabama to cover. I just don't know if they got... I just don't know if they have all 60 minutes to beat Indiana. You don't know if they have all. I don't know if they got the 60 minutes to beat Indiana.

Oh, man. I just. What'd you think, SEC paid? Ty Simpson comes on the show, does everything but howl in your face. You went out there, you stayed in New York, you went out there. One of the games you were able to get on the field for. Once Will heard we were going to Miami, he's like, oh, fuck, I don't worry, I'm doing that. You guys are supporting the college football.

Will's going to be in New York with his family. He stayed in Ashford. He didn't do nothing. He lied. Lincoln Riley went to New York. Two lies is in place on the show. But onward. What was I going to?

Oh, yeah. So Ty Simpson goes into Wolf mode, which ironically, you had a wolf after you in Norman. And he was on the field. He was on the field. Wolf mode. He's howling. He comes on the show afterwards. Calls both of you out.

Shame on both of you for picking against him in that round. Okay. And so you would think to yourself. You were on that graphic too now. He spared you. He sat in the studio. He spared him. I can't believe you didn't catch it last week.

I lobbed it as clear as. I could to you last week. No, we saw it. We just didn't respond to it. Just watched it hit the ground. Like, oh my God, he's trying to dunk on us again. Here's what I'm trying to say. If you pick against Alabama this week,

you disrespect them and you hate Ty Simpson. So with that, continue your prediction. Yeah, that's why I like it. I like Alabama to cover. To cover. To cover. I'm thinking Alabama plus seven and a half. Yeah.

Minutes six and a half. I'm sitting there. I'm pounding my head against the wall. I kind of don't know which way to go. I do believe Indiana is going to win this game, but I'm like, does Alabama keep it close? Six and a half seems like a lot Now that it's seven and a half

We're getting a full point I kind of like Alabama Two score game now you're looking at Before it was a half They just went by a touchdown I can see that happening with Indiana You look at any of the defense of linemen Stephen Daly he goes out he has five and a half sacks

Celebrating with fans after the Big Ten championship Which is a huge loss Lanz on his leg all weird He was their best defense of lineman And then he watched a film of Indiana and their defense And they run a bunch of like run stunts On first and second down so it really messes up Alabama is already rushing for 3.4 yards per carry.

And they do a great job of zone blitz and exotic blitzes. And if you watch the Oklahoma Alabama game, Oklahoma in the first half ran one specific blitz over and over again in the middle of that offensive line. It was linebacker, or nose goes across the face of the center and the linebacker comes in. And for whatever reason, series after series, they cannot figure that out. So then you think, okay, Indiana's kind of got the edge and everything. Then you see Omar Cooper Jr.'s coming back who missed the Big Ten championship. We play in the first quarter. Misses that game.

And I think he has, what, 859 receiving yards? Am I correct? Might as well be 3,000. Might as well be 3,000. And then you see Ty Simpson. He kind of looks like between the years, he's having a trouble, a little bit of trouble in the first half, late in the second quarter or early in the second quarter,

throws the ball in the Alabama sidelines. Kind of a duck, but it gets him out of whatever fog he was in. They go back in, what, score 37 to 7 in the second half? So it kind of like, oh, is Alabama back? and then you add the point of seven and a half and I sit there thinking about we're talking to Ty Simpson and he's like he's a wolf he gets in my face he puts the graphic of all of us on

but only tags us and spares Josh Pate and I have no choice but to go Indiana covering minus seven and a half because of that and it's a piece of me it's like hey if Alabama wins then I've done them a favor yet again because it's clearly motivation Ty Simpson clearly watches the show

shouldn't be watching a gambling show clearly watches the show. He's a fan of the boys. Fan of the boys, but I hope he doesn't have, you know, one of the maps right now. He can't have that in college football. John Mateer, can't have that. Do you see this being anything other than a Ty Simpson? This is a, if Alabama's going to win, it's going to be a Ty Simpson legacy game. It has to. Because they're not going to be able to run the football. I was talking with Garrett, who's our roll tied tier one. And I'm thinking, I mean, 60 yards, that'd be improvement. That'd be what, something that you leave the game being like, well, at least we can run the football a little bit. But it's going to have to

be a Ty Simpson legacy game. And you're talking about what Indiana does well as they cut up the front. They also do exotic pressures, zone blitzes, everything else. When you do true zone dogs, you're still sending five men to rush the passer. Where Indiana does a good job is they do a lot of simulated pressures. A lot of things that we did with Dean Peas when I came to Tennessee in 2018, where if you're just rushing the passer and you're playing, let's just say cover three, four underneath and three deep, you're rushing four guys. Simulated pressures, you're bringing guys from the second level, but you're dropping a defensive lineman out. So that way you're still getting the simulation of a pressure that Ty Simpson is going to have to pick up on, but you're still dropping

an end, so you're still going to get that four underneath three deep look if you're talking about simulated pressure in the cover three. Right. Because people think when you bring a lot of pressure, there's clear holes in the defense. But by dropping that defensive lineman, one, Ty Simpson is going to react to, okay, someone's coming here, I can go there. But there's somebody replacing in that area as well, which can cause in turnovers. And Big Nettie, you know they're going to do a good job of disguising. at time so they can try and throw it off. And if they're cutting it up and getting after Ohio State,

Julian's saying in that offensive line, who's to say they're not going to be getting after Alabama as well? That's why I feel like if Bama's going to win, it's going to be a Ty Simpson legacy game. Right. Because you're also playing the Heisman Trophy winner, Fernando Mendoza, not John Meteer, Fernando Mendoza.

You're also playing a team who can run the football, not Oklahoma who can't run the football. A team who can run the football. Yeah. And the people, when I brought up Stephen Daly, him getting hurt, and he's clearly their best defensive linemen, but because of the, the stunts that take place on first and second down,

the simulated pressures, a lot of times a guy can come free. So when you lose your best player that you're usually scheming, because of these simulated pressures, guys have more opportunities to run free, which leads me to believe there's still going to be

an equal amount of pressure with Stephen Daley out of the game. And we can just talk amongst each other because we know he's going to go here in a second. But you're right, because when old buddy's out their best player on the D-Line, when he's out, they're not just true rushing all the time to where

it's like Jeffrey Simmons on the Tennessee Titans where he's just going to absolutely disrupt the entire game. We have to put multiple guys on it. Hey, we got a scheme against him because they are doing so much creativity with sending blitzes, sending pressure, everything else. That's where, yeah. And before we let Josh go, it's like, do we believe in Ty Simpson?

No doubt. That's the boy. That's the guy. That's our wall. That's high and Ty Simpson. Exactly. But when you can effectively run the ball and make yourself one dimensional, it's like, all right, can Big Nettie take all this time and be able to be like, okay, this is guy we have clearly

have to beat. So let's just make sure and disreesome. him, so he's never safe, make him get outside the pocket, and then, you know, have your guys play in the back end. Now you're not worried about the run game. But let me throw something at you. Please. Ohio State has a down game in the Big Ten championship. Down game? Down game. Ohio State has a down game where Indiana sneaks him. Indiana shows up. They've had some time off. They show up. And it's Indiana Notre Dame last year. When we were standing on that sideline, they get hit in the mouth. Bama runs away with it. I love what your heads at.

it's completely normal for you to think that way, but we're also looking at the year two. Some of the guys that were in that locker room against Notre Dame, their back, they understand the process of how the playoffs work. Before Indiana, there was like a, what a great story. One of the worst football programs in the history of the sport college football. They made the playoffs the first time. This Kurt Signetti guy, who is he? I don't know.

I've Googled him. Apparently he wins. Now they're in the year two of it. Fernando Mendoza wins the Heisman. It's a completely different attitude that's kind of taken place here. And to say they had a down game, I think Ohio State is probably going to go on a crazy little run yet again. And regardless of how Michigan was this year, that win for Ohio State was big for them. And they let them go, thank God that's done.

Because they clearly were the better team. They should have probably won the year before. However, they didn't. And now there's all this amplified pressure taking place for Ohio State. And they get a win the way they did against Michigan, it's kind of understandable that there'd be like a little, hey, we finally got the monkey off our back. Which makes me go, Indiana, like, they might not be as good as what we saw in the Big Ten championship, but based on one-dimensional Alabama offense and Big Nettie, his culture, his attitude, the way he talks about, you know, the process and emotions don't really matter.

We're working on fundamentals. And he just approaches everything the way a head coach should. It's like, I don't see these guys having a break, a buy, and then walking into this thing slow. They understand what that stake. And they understand that the logos that people are going to look at, regardless of the one being next to Indiana's, people are going to go, oh shit, Alabama's going to mop this team. And that's where Indiana catches the edge even more. Josh?

This is a tough show to do because we pick the biggest games. The biggest games have the tightest spreads. The tightest spreads mean it could go either way. It's tough to give yourself an edge. We're trying to see through the fog a lot of times when we're trying to make these pigs. This one's not that way for me. Alabama's going to win this game outright. So I'll take the points, especially if you're giving me seven and a half.

I love it. Both of you are doubting Tyson. Simpson. That's what you're doing. Nope. No, that's bullshit, Josh. Don't you put that on us? We said Ty Simpson is a dog. Their offense is one-dimensional. Let me tell you what a dog would do in this game. He'd win the game. He'd win the game. That's what he would do. It's good point. Dogs do win. He went on the road against Georgia. Did they have a run game against Georgia earlier in the year? Come on now. That was earlier in the year. He won the game. That was earlier in the year. I'm glad you're mentioning this, William. Do you want to know why I'm going back to the Georgia game?

Please, do tell. Sources deep inside the program tell me that Alabama's team will be as healthy as not just they've been since the Georgia game, but since they've been since the second scrimmage of fall camp. You haven't seen this team all year. And I get the added psychological benefit of the rubber band effect of what the final three quarters of that Oklahoma game did. You just summoned the Ohio State example, and it was good. I want to go back to the year before, the Ohio State Michigan example, where they lose, but somehow some way that ends up being the psychological rubber band for Ohio State and they go on a run.

That spread is what it is because of what these teams have been this year, but I'm not trying to look in my rearview mirror to pick the Rose Bowl. I'm trying to look in the windshield. My entire premise from my belief that Alabama is going to win this game outright is because I believe the team that will be on the field or rather the performance level that will be on the field will benefit, number one, for having jumped in ice, cold water and survived it last week. And then you kind of feel yourself a little bit. Number two, I think the Stephen Daly loss is even bigger than you guys just made it.

You pointed it out and you talked about it. They haven't had to play a series without that guy all year. If you go back and watch them against Oregon, you go back and watch them against Ohio State, he's constantly in the backfield. If I give Ty Simpson any time to throw, the only other set of receivers that Indiana faced, like Alabama has, is Ohio State. Ohio State, like, was very hesitant to even use that part of their weaponry, which I think would be different a second time around if they,

played them. But the other thing that I think people are forgetting here is Alabama's defense carried them while they were banged up. Then they go into the Georgia game and they're totally crippled. And the Georgia game is the lasting impression even above the Oklahoma game that I think a lot of people have in their minds. Even though that Oklahoma game just happened like two weeks ago, I really think most people, when they picture Alabama in their head, some people probably even still remember the Florida State game from the beginning of the year. But you really remember that Georgia game because the mind thinks in terms of worst case. Like what's the disaster? The best case scenario for Bama this year has been winning close games.

The worst case has been the whole wheels come off. All four of them come off like they did against Georgia. I don't think any semblance of that team is taking the field this week at the Rose Bowl because I've got Josh Kwaivas back. I've got a healthy Parker Brailsford. I've got L.T. Overton back. They thought medically that guy wasn't going to play again this year. And remember, he's not coming back from injury.

He's coming back from medical. So it's not like they're trying to ease him back in with an ankle or a knee. So out Indiana's best defensive front player, enter Alabama's best defensive front player, and in Indiana's closest games this year. You're talking about a five-point win against Iowa. You're talking about a come-from-behind win against Penn State. You're talking about hanging 13 to beat Ohio State. These haven't been blowout games. I think Alabama's team will play at the highest level that they've played at all year.

Therefore, I think what we're going to see is not indicative necessarily in their worst moments of what we have seen. And the other thing about Indiana, their talent, like their best skill set has been high-level execution, which will buzzsaw you through a regular season. The one thing that I worry about is the same thing growing up as a Braves fan that I worried about with Greg Maddox. Greg Maddox was the ace of my staff. And he was a craftsman. And he never hit 95 on the gun, but he didn't need to. And he'd win like 18, 19 games in the regular season.

He's the professor. He should sell him. I don't need to sell you. I don't need to sell you. I don't need to say. I want to beat you. Look at my record. I need to beat you. He said we weren't gonna do it now he's trying to do it.

Well, just safety. I am in Alabama plus seven and a half. They get in the post-season? It was always Alabama plus seven and a half. Hey, you're not going to Indiana? No, I'm saying Indiana. I think Indiana is gonna win, but I think Alabama's gonna cover. You are gonna win. That's the irony of all this.

You are gonna win. I said it right before. Like, I said it honestly at the very top. I thought I talked to you and knew it. He started talking to, I'm thinking to myself, oh my God. Yeah, but hey, he has, he has, he has, he, think about it. Think about who his preseason national champ was.

Alabama. Alabama. Think about, like, what kind of equity he has in Alabama winning this game. Think about what kind of equity he has in this storytelling. Think about his family. Think about his wife. Yeah. His wife.

His wife. His wife is dad. You're one of the dirtiest players I've ever met. Why would I even listen to you talk about my dad? So, hey, if you're so confident in Alabama, take Alabama money line. Already did. Okay. I tell you this show.

What the fuck? Yeah. So this is what it's like to be on an island. The problem. The problem. No, actually. What's with you? You get to the playoffs.

This used to be like one of your religious part of your show prep is I'm listening to my words parrited back in my face because you've listened to my show. That's exactly what I stopped doing it. Now a sudden you ghost my show. Yeah, had to. Had to. Because you say things so beautifully and eloquently, I can't help but just keep it in my head. And then it comes out of my mouth. in a less beautiful way.

And I just can't do that. So I decided... Then when you called him on it, he's probably thinking, okay, I got to... Yeah, I texted, I texted judges and hey, I'm... By the way, I don't mean to do that. It just kind of happens. We left that day.

Everyone's laughing in a great mood. And then I looked down to my phone and it's like, I can tell there were tear drops on the phone. If you texted me this apology, I'm like, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. That's kind of what happens. I wanted to stroke your cheek.

Like, it's okay. It's done, man. No. I had to find a new. Let me tell you about Greg Maddox. He would get to the playoffs and he'd get let up in the playoffs. And it's not because Greg Maddox was a bad pitcher. It's because he had to rely on craftsmanship and high-level precision to overcome raw power that he lacked.

I'm not saying Indiana lacks power. I'm saying they lack elite athleticism. And because of that, they're so fundamentally sound technically they just out-execute folks. When you get to the postseason, that can win. But they've got to actually do what Bama's been doing all year. They got to walk the tightrope. That's what Indiana has to do. They don't have this massive athletic edge.

They're playing a team in Alabama that's had to live that way all year. And they're playing a team in Alabama that really doesn't get crowbarred down to a halt if you take away their ground game. Because they haven't run the ball anyway. So I think Alabama is going to be very, very efficient throwing the ball. Weather could be horrible, by the way. Weather could be horrible here. A lot of people have theories on who that helps. And a lot of times it's just a wash.

A lot of times it's a wash. I always love, if I've got a deep receiver core, I always love that those guys know where they're going and the defense doesn't. And I think from a reactionary standpoint, a lot of times bad weather or a wet track works against the defense a lot more than it just helps the run game.

You got seven studs for that. Yeah. So I'm going to take Alabama to win up right. If you got Burger King hands, no doubt. I don't know the size Ty's got. You know what I mean? You've got to be able to grip their balls.

I'll be honest. I don't know how the rest of these things are going to go. Wow. But I have all the games I'm praying Indian. Not because of Thai. I love Thai. He's doubting Big Nettie. Indiana Twitter's going to eat this up.

So you're on this show, you're taking Alabama Moneyland. Yes. That's all I needed. That's all I needed. Because if I hit that L category, I won't. I started laughing when he was talking about who's the D-Ly lineman coming back for Bama? L.T. Overton.

When he's like, he's not just coming back from injury. I was in my head opening. He was going to say he's coming back from death. Yeah, I talked again. about it yesterday too. He's back. I was all on Alabama yesterday. And then for whatever reason. Oh, hey. So you were mentioning, hey, if they get 60 yards on the ground, like, that's a good day, right? For Alabama, got some good news for you. I'm just looking at Fanduil. Over under 77 and a half rushing yards for Alabama. What are you taking there?

Don't have a strong feel on it. Because I think they can run it for 68 yards and win. Like, I think there's several pads. I don't count on Alabama to run the ball. If they ran it, That would just be a crazy added bonus to me. I think if they rush for over 77 yards, it's something like Ryan Williams on some orbit motion or something like that ends up breaking off 35. And then the rest of the game just looks like a normal Alabama game and they have 84 rushing yards,

but half of it comes on one play and it's probably in the hands of a receiver. So say all that to say, I don't have a feel on that one, but I'll take Alabama Money Line. Alabama Money Line, Alabama plus seven and a half? Yes. Indiana minus seven and a half. Onward. What game would you like to go?

What's your next, Josh? Let's go to the Sugar Bowl. Sugar Bowl. Ole Miss versus Georgia. Georgia's favored by six and a half points total in that game is 55 and a half. This team played before. Georgia scored 17 points in the fourth quarter. All miss scored zero.

43 and the 4335 final, right? Yes. Nice little shootout, fun little shootout. Fun little shootout. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, every drive. Georgia never punted. wanted. Ole Miss had touchdowns in their first five drives. Trinidad Chambliss's first SEC road start. They played obviously earlier in the year. So that was in that. This was pre-Georgia

defense coming alive all of us. Yeah. That's true. This is pre-Georgia getting to the quarterback. Yeah. Some say in Georgia circles, the latter portion of this game is where their defense turned to corner. I don't disagree with him. Kirby's trying to downplay that. He was like, oh, I don't even remember how the end of that game went. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. So something flipped. a switch in the Georgia defense mentality. And they started getting after the quarterback, or at least started affecting the quarterback a whole lot more. But I think that this is the most dangerous quarterback in the playoffs.

All the teams included, Ty Simpson, Julian, say, and we got the Heisman Trophy winner Fernando Mendoza in this tournament. If there was one that just scared me, it would actually be Trinidad Chamas. Because I don't know what his ceiling is because he's ascended all year. He can do more with legs, arms combined than anyone. And the only one who would challenge, that's really Dante Moore.

at Oregon. So I think this is a really unique challenge for Georgia. The reason I'm going to go Georgia, and I actually went Georgia minus the points. I like Georgia minus up to seven. So we can get six and a half right now is I always just blindly trust Kirby in these spots. Remember the Georgia Texas game when they played them in Athens. And at the time, like everyone was trying to say, ooh, man, Texas getting hot. Texas coming out of the by, like maybe this is the time. And Georgia just shut him down. And my entire premise for taking him is Kirby's not going to get beat in this spot. And that's the same way I feel about these games.

He's earned so much like blind trust. It's not blind, but he's earned so much trust in my mind that I think about him in these spots. This is where their season ended last year. That was the Notre Dame game. They got beat like 23 to 10. That was Stockton's first start because Beck was out for the year. You still got Gunner Stockton. But now I've seen him in several big games.

Tennessee game earlier this year. They needed to score 40. They did. They needed to score 40 against Ole Miss. They did. The Alabama game the first time around he lost, but then he played really, really good football the second time around. The Texas game, he played really well.

But the Ole Miss game was his best game. So if Georgia can win, score in 20, yeah, that's great. That probably is a game that favors them. But if they need to get up into the 40s, I trust that they can. They're playing on a fast track. They're getting Colby Young back. Their wide receiver. It's so weird because you normally get to the playoffs and you're thinking it's a war of attrition.

Who's left? But you've got some of these teams. Bama getting Oberton back. You're getting guys back if you're Oregon. You're getting guys back if you're Georgia. Not to say they're not banged up because they are. But I like Georgia to be able to win probably still a pretty high scoring game. Honestly, I don't hate over 55 and a half.

Are we allowed to take a total as our pick? If you'd like to, go ahead. I would prefer to take over 55 and a half as my pick. So that's on the record. But then off the record, just us talking. I would also lay the points with Georgia. Georgia's gotten a whole lot better throughout the year. They have everyone was knocking up for starting so starting slow and the second half turning it on and just being able to will themselves into beating people

I I think George is probably gonna win this game I love the storyline of the head coach being like this is Charlie a Weiss's offense Yeah, you could tell the entire team is like fuck Lane Kiffin we're gonna show him and meanwhile Lane Kiffin's at the LSU bowl game He like leaves earlier and everyone's up in arms about that just made his appearance yeah, but I I just love the story of these kids being like we're a bunch of misfits We have no leader stability taking place right now. Our guy left, left us during a playoff run. So I'm going to take Old Miss with the points. Everything you said about Trinidad Chambleau,

I don't have a whole lot to hang on my hat other than that because Georgia has turned it up quite a bit. And this is more of a hope than it is a breakdown. Yeah, I would love to see an upset with Ole Miss just in the college football play up, the spirit of the playoff and Ole Miss's story and everything else. I just, for me, I'm taking Georgia with the points just because it's more of the Kirby Smart. It's like this team.

Been here so many times. So many times. Right. Like this spot is part of the process for Georgia. The preparation for playoffs and being in massive bowl games or national titles, SEC championship. Like, it's always part of the process for Georgia. And Ole Miss being kind of being new in this spot and also without, with all the drama that surrounded them. I'm just, I'm leaning on Kirby Smart in Georgia to cover in this game, especially the way they play.

the last like five weeks defensively coming alive, getting after the quarterback, Gunner Stockton in these moments. Yeah, I like Georgia. I like Georgia to cover. For both of you who are on Georgia, does the break hold any weight for you when you kind of look at Oregon and Ohio State last year? It does, but again, Kirby's smart.

Like, whatever break that they've had, like, you've had bowl preps during bowl games where you've had long breaks or a month off at a time. Like, to me, it's like Kirby's smart. just understands this situation at all times year in and year out to where anybody who walks in that building in that program as a freshman they just this is all that they've known so they know when their head coach is going to be hard on them when they might be getting you know an off day because of injuries even though kirby smart you got an injured team you got a what a scared team what do you say a few

weeks ago before it's like when they were talking about if you're injured and you don't practice you have uh you end up having a scared team like i just i just believe in kirby smart so with that It does a little bit, but again, it's like Oregon. That was Oregon, Dan Laning, is kind of their first experience in that moment and coming off a very pissed off Ohio State team, losing the Michigan, thumping Tennessee, then they get Oregon where Oregon's had zero prep.

It's kind of the first year of this 12-team playoff. But again, with Kirby Smart, I just, I don't really have much doubt that he's probably handled it as good as he possibly can coming off that SEC title. Yeah, I will say, like, my answer is, yeah, with the teams coming off the buy. It's just a blanket concern for me.

I never know. I could say the same thing about Indiana. I could say the same thing about Oregon. I'd say the same thing about Georgia here. I just never know. And there have been stretches of Mike Bobo's career where slow starts have haunted them. There have been stretches this year

where Georgia struggled with that. It was a little more early in the season. But then the other thing, I think you got to avoid like the recency bias a little bit of the last two games you saw Georgia play was Georgia Tech and Alabama. And neither one of them. had like an existent offense at the time they played Georgia.

And so Georgia just shut them both down. And that could fool you a little bit into not thinking highly of the defense. I think highly of the defense, but maybe overinflating it a little bit. And then all of a sudden you face a different challenge. And what the first two possessions here for Ole Miss are the same way that previous game started? Right. It's 14 nothing. So then the other thing, I don't know that this is able to be quantified.

I don't want to overlook this because I was just thinking about this. So this game last year, Sugar Bowl last year. for Georgia specifically. Think about this experience. There's a terrorist attack in New Orleans. So they bump the game back, I think, a day. Kirby Smart's dad dies while he's at the game, while he's in New Orleans for the Sugar Bowl.

And then from a purely athletic standpoint, their season gets ended. So going back to New Orleans a year later, like what must that feel like for them? What must that feel like for him? That cannot, you're glad you're there, but like from a competitive. competitive PTSD sort of standpoint, that's got to do a number on you.

It pales in comparison to what people who are actually victims of a terrorist attack had to deal with, obviously. But in football terms, that can't be the easiest trip. I'm pretty sure there were three other semifinal or quarterfinal spots they would have preferred to go if they had their choice. But here we are, New Year's night. It's a good point. A lot of options. Over, Ole Miss, the points, Georgia to cover. This might actually...

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Oregon favored two and a half. 12 points in the game is 51.5. That dropped, didn't it? Wow. Okay. Carry on. Dan Lanning back in the playoffs versus Texas Tech. A team that people say bought their entire,

they bought their entire team. Would they Joe, would they not? and in the Bay 12th get themselves a buy. They're in completely uncharted territory. Oregon's at least been in this position before. Number one run defense in the country, yeah? Mm-hmm. Check up Rodriguez.

Yeah. Oregon, one of the best run offenses in the country. Mm-hmm. Dante Moore. Had a nice tune-up game against a G5 team that will not be named. Since then, every starter has transferred. Yeah, only the logo remains. Only the logo remains.

All the players are gone. Dante Moore looked great. Will? Oh, can, before you go. Oh, no. I don't know who this is from. It says, don't forget Oregon spent a fair amount of money in the portal as well. Get our name out your mouth.

I don't need to that last part was necessary. Wow. Yeah, that was a little aggressive. So Oregon is pretty active in the portal as well. Just before the whole world claims that Texas Tech, a bunch of portal merchants. A lot of money. More than Texas Tech, right? That's what some say.

People are saying that. These are not public records. Yeah. I can't FOIA this information. Right. This is all allegedly. Oregon doesn't have Nike and Phil Knight, right? Yeah.

Over $40 million into their roster, yeah? It's all allegedly. That's a lofty number. That's a lofty number in this economy. Is it culture or is it Laining or is it De Niro? Wow. You know? Because you kind of lean Texas Tech

because I haven't heard a whole lot of Joey McGuire saying a whole lot about Dan Lending. It kind of kept it quiet a little bit. And Lannings said this game should be in Lubbock. Which is, I think, a great move. And also just a, is it bold-faced lie? I never knew. Always kind of skimmed through a bull-faced lie.

You don't want to play this game in Lubbock? He's saying it because he knows that it can't happen. And he knows it's what the spirit of college football needs is everybody who have a buy get to host a playoff game. He is right about that. I'm not disagreeing with him in principle. Don't you wish this game was in Lubbock? Yes, I'm just saying if it was in Lubbock, I doubt Lending opens. I doubt Lending opens this presser and says, ladies and gentlemen, tell you what I'm really happy about.

We're going to Lubbock, Texas. Isn't it great? Don't you love it? I highly doubt that would happen. Yeah. But McGuire's kind of, he kept it quiet, yeah? Yeah, he has. I think so. There's a little something I got.

No. Yeah. Stop. Because when I think of Joey McGuire, I think of Texas Tech, you know my love for Jacob Rodriguez, his quads, the physique, yeah, the mustache, everything that run defense has going on, going against a victim of the deep state.

Victim of the deep state, yes. And a cat that sat there on national television. and hit the crossbar right before the Bay 12- Got a lot of juice. Yeah, he's got a lot of momentum. A lot of momentum. He's got a lot of juice, a lot of swag. But I cannot help but think that Oregon

has been working for this spot for an entire year. I cannot help but think about Dan Laining, wake it up in a cold sweat over and over, at least once a week throughout this entire year, no matter what cliche bullshit, he tells the press conference on how he's felt since that ass-whipping that the Ohio State Buckeyes and Ryan Day gave his little ass a year ago because they're in this spot.

They were in this round that they were a year ago. This is everything that they've worked towards. This is where their season is supposed to start. And I also can't get out of my head the letter I got. No, you didn't get a letter. In the mail last night. Are you serious? I got a letter to the mail. Was it overnighted or was it standard business? It was just folded like this sitting in my mailbox. You got a drive by. Wait, this was not in an envelope. No. There was no postage. No. And I'll say, listen. Just to make sure. I'll just want authenticated. I just want to see. So this is a this is a letter. This is handwritten. Yeah. All right. Continue. It's real. So I don't know who it's from. Okay. You guys can tell me.

Because I'm leading I'm leading tech right now. Let's not go there yet. People have kept their mouth shut. Let's hear it out first. Knock knock. Who's there? Red Raider. Red Raider who? How many times do you think that pussy has asked his wife with shoes he should wear? this weekend. What's his excuse going to be when his sugar daddy fill night? What's his excuse going to be to his sugar daddy fill night when he loses with a $40 million

plus roster? So it is true. Don't forget the type of guy he is. He claps when the plane lands. He was the kid that would remind the teacher that homework was due. He plugs his nose when he jumps in the pool. He even plugs his nose when he gets in the shower.

No. Get off his meat, willy, see? How's that Big Ten butt taste. Red Raider fan for life, Joey Mack. Could be anybody. WrestleMania 17. Steve Austin versus the rot. Austin turns heel, wins the WWF, now E championship. Jim Ross is sitting at ringside and he's just screaming.

I thought I knew that man. I thought I knew Steve Austin. I didn't know how he felt at the time because I was a kid, but I kind of know that feeling now because I know Joey McGuire, or I thought I did. I thought I knew Joey McGuire. I thought I knew Joey McGuire. I thought I knew that man. But the Joey McGuire, I know, Joey McGuire 1.0, would not have done that. But Joey McGuire, 2.0.

Dart Joey? Playoff Joey. Playoff Joey. Playoff Joey Mac. Apparently has peeled off a layer. And what was underneath is something more terrifying that we could have ever imagined. This is Buffalo Bill, Dan Lannning, down in the basement in some pit. He just told Dan.

to put the lotion on the skin. Yeah. And it sounds like Dan has no other option. Which shoes you're wearing, Danny Boy? Oh, that's terrible. What if Dan just shows up in a pair of black jays? No color, nothing on them. I'm taking Oregon.

You know what? I said before that note, I was leaning Texas Tech. And the main reason was is no one was saying that Joey McGuire was keeping it quiet. People from Texas Tech were being polite about Oregon. But after that letter, ma'am. here's what I'll say if that letter

if Dan Lining sees that letter and then loses the Texas Tech that program might be done. Not only loses the Texas Tech but loses in the spot two years in a row I'm going to ride with my boy what kind of fake noise

we're going to get about Dan Lending and not being able to win the big one. Would it be fake at that point? Got lost to Indiana? Fake in the sense of Dan Franklin. Do you start No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Dan Franklin. Don't do that. Danny Franklin? Don't do that. I'm not doing it. I'm just saying that's, that's, people will do it. People will do it. Yeah, so that's fair. I love my boy. We don't do that. You're just saying if they lose some of the first tweets we will see on X is going to be Danny Franklin.

The AI, Dan Lanning's face, James Franklin's body. Yeah. Don't do that anyway. I'm not. I would never do that to my guy. I want to be very clear in that. I would never do that to my guy. but if that letter holds true and Texas Tech wins God forbid covers this tiny little line which they would do if they won. Don't take Texas they could win by one. Don't take Texas Tech to win but Oregon to cover. We've gone down that road once

this year. We don't want to take the dog on the money line but the favorite to cover. Who's that Iowa? Was that Iowa State? I don't think it's important. My brain doesn't go back that far. I don't think it's important. I think it's important that you didn't smile a lift when you said it.

Set it? Yeah, and just sat there. It was like, I'm standing 10 toes on this one. I'm taking dog money line. I'm laying the points, but I'm taking the dog on the money line. Give me Oregon.

Give me loyalty. Give me Dan Lannning to get this monkey off his back. I'm surprised you're not going with the Red Raiders. I was thinking about it. You even before the college football play, if you're like, I kind of want to go to Texas Tech. I know.

I think they're a little bit of a dark horse. I thought that. You told me something. What was the thing you told me? that I'm taking Oregon no but the gap integrity just whenever some get said to him there's a look that he has in his eyes

where it ain't coming he said so many different things like you got to help him out gap gap integrity oh yeah well so Taylor comes to me to break down line play a whole lot and so we were talking about gap integrity the other day and we were talking about just the style of play that Texas Tech

has incorporated very effectively in the big 12 this year and their their stat profiles like a silo just Big 12 teams because that's all they played Oregon State both of them played Oregon State back-to-back weeks there's a mutual opponent here and it was pretty much the same outcome so then elsewhere you're wondering all right what did they do well they did everything they did in the big 12 all right now they blew everyone out when they had their starting quarterback in big 12 play no one ran the ball on Kansas State ran it for 126 that was the best rushing output anyone had

against Texas Tech all year and yet the over under on total rushing yards for Oregon is 142 and a half. Well, it was. Now it's 144 after what I did to it. So I attacked that number because I actually think the biggest edge in this game is Oregon's going to be able to run the ball better than anyone has on Texas Tech. I fully understand that Joey, author of that note, will be taking this. And I'm not even alleging that they're going to put it in the hype video. Because earlier this year, I thought Kansas would cover against Texas Tech, foolishly. I was pretty vocal about it on the show that week. And then Texas Tech just ran it up on Kansas.

And then I got a text, not a letter, a text. And the text was from one Joey McGuire. And it was a video link to the video that they had showed the team the Friday night before the game. And my prediction was laced throughout the video. They did everything but put a clown nose on me. And so I understand what I'm about to say is going to be used. It's going to be leveraged. It's going to be weaponized inside the walls of the Texas Tech Hotel down there in Miami,

but I don't care because I really do think Oregon's going to be able to run the ball. And if they can do that, they have full balance and they'll be able to operate offensively and they'll put Texas Tech in a spot and no one else has. And that's in a dog fight in the fourth quarter or maybe even having to play from behind. Now, that doesn't mean they can't. It just means they've been so good this year. They haven't been in that spot. And I think they're going to get put in that spot.

And I think what we saw Ohio State do to Oregon last year, sort of hit the reset button in Oregon's mind. And everything was built on peaking at the right time. Because Oregon just kind of peaked during the season last year. And then whatever was left got served up to Ohio State. And Ohio State peaked at the right time. I think Oregon's going to peak at the right time. And I think they're going to go down there and they're going to win.

And they're going to look in the bus rearview mirror as they pull out of the parking lot knowing we could be right back in this building on January 19th, I think it is. Because where they're playing this quarterfinal game is where they play the national championship game. because college football playoff system is stupid. So you play in some buildings twice. God forbid we played these second round games on campus. We couldn't have that. That's got to change this year.

Dude, some of the get-in prices? So before I go, Oregon wins. My favorite prop bet of the playoffs is Oregon over total rushing yards, 142.5, which I think is 144 and a half now. It's my biggest wager of the playoffs. Period. We're going to have to all hit that. Period.

We're going to have to hit that. Now, the get-a-old. In prices for these games, something's got to be done. There are rumors on the streets that a couple of these games won't even be at capacity. Cotton Bowl, which we're about to break down. Orange Bowl, some of the get in prices are under $100. Rose Bowl, it's going to rain like five inches, but still getting prices is insanely cheap out there.

Now you may be thinking, oh man, you're the future commissioner. What do you have against affordable ticket prices? It's affordable because there's no demand because everyone's looking at the game saying, why would I pay money to go to a quarterfinal game, a thousand miles away? If we win, I'll just go to the next round games. And if we lose, I just paid money to go watch our season end. So either way, I don't want anything to do with that. Whereas these games could be played in where Columbus and Lubbock and Eugene and Athens.

That's where we could be watching these games happen on New Year's Day. Are you going to any of these games? I'm not going to a single quarterfinal game. If these games were at the locations you were just saying. Multiple. I would go to multiple. I'm with you. Yeah.

All right. He's like none of them. None of them. Oregon. Oregon. Oregon. Oregon. Big.

Oregon. How big? Big. Like 30? 40? 40? 50. What's the model say about this game?

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All right, true classic game of the week. Every weekend's got games. Boy, one fits just right. This is the true classic game of the week. We got Will's favorite Miami versus Ohio State. It is at the Cotton Bowl. Ohio State's favorite favorite at minus nine and a half. Total points in that game is 41.5.

You weren't at this game. Miami beat Texas A&M at Texas A&M. I think the score in that game was 10 to 3. 10 to 3. Miami 1? Miami 1. That's why they're playing in this game. And the kicker missed, what, four field goals?

I don't put that all on him. We were playing in a hurricane. You felt it more than I did. You were way higher than I was. Yeah, it was. Was still the psyche. You think so? Yeah.

I don't think so. And that stadium goes straight up and down. Like we were on, what, the second highest level? And it wasn't that windy for us. And we were above the field goal post. Yeah. So it wasn't like there was a little vortex. You know better than me when it comes to.

And even if not psyche, if he happens to watch this show and he just hears that, then that could play into the psyche. Should I be? We should put a spoiler up for him. Like, if you're the Miami kicker, don't watch this part of the segment. Look, all right, so last night, I watched an NFL quarter. So that's why I'm talking an NFL. Wow.

Atlanta needed a 51-yarder. Remember that? Yeah. I thought the dude just piped it like as good a looking kick as you could possibly kick. I know there's a lot of kicks every week, but you split the uprights. The Miami game, I thought that dude drilled one. Like wouldn't change a thing about the way the ball came off the foot, about the snap, about the place, about to hold, and it's on its way, and then wind takes it.

Which is not going to happen because I have the forecast in my hand at kickoff in Jerry World. What is it? 70 degrees. Okay. Zero mile per hour winds. Wow. Is that because it's in a dome? Yeah, it's not even going to be sunny.

The little windows aren't even going to come into play. You're not going to open the windows. Because it's a night game. So who cares? That makes sense. So I don't worry about special teams. I don't worry about kicking from Miami. What I do worry about is Carson Be.

back. But should I? But should I worry about Carson Beck? I'm working on a theory here. And my theory is that Miami realized their teeth were clenched pretty tight defensively in that A&M game. And the only way they thought to themselves that we're going to lose this is if we give it away and we would give it away by putting the ball in the air and Carson Beck throwing some picks. And I just think they throttle play calling down. I'd, you will not convince me, put it another way. You will not convince me that Carson Beck is a liability offensively from Miami. If he is, they're going to get smoked in this game. So if I'm wrong, then it's Ohio State Altline. It's like Ohio State big. I don't think that. He's played a ton of ball. He's played in several big games. He's been a weapon more

times than not. I'm not saying like top five future draft pick or anything like that, but I'm saying I think they can lean on him to make plays here. And I don't know, man, there's so much talk about the physicality with Miami, with good reasons. It's a really physical team. It's a really physically impressive team. Ohio State Twitter is some of the worst in the world at hearing what you don't say. Earlier this year, I go to the Miami-FSU game.

I say, man, there's no team in the country that physically looks like Miami. They took it to mean there's no team better than Miami in the country, which I didn't say. Ironically, these two teams play each other now. I'm still going to say, look at it on the field. There's no team that looks like Miami. Doesn't mean they'll win the game, though.

They're a nine and a half point dog for a reason. But if you want to get really simplistic about it, you do the O line versus D line edge. You do the D line versus O line edge. There is at least an argument to be made that Miami has a two-way edge there. Slide edges like 52, 48, 55, 45, but I think you can make that argument.

I haven't said that about anyone else Ohio State played this year. I'll just say that. Quarterback experience edge goes to Miami. Who has the better quarterback? That one we could debate a little bit more and it's really situational. But I ended up going to-

Julian saying. Well, I think so. I think so. But Julian Sand has two aliens he throws to. That's true. If he throws it to it. I'm with you. I'm with you.

I'm just saying that would be the argument. Hey, you know who's calling plays in this game offensively? X factor. Ryan Day. Yeah. Yeah. Solid up and comer in the coaching profession. Ryan Day.

Friend of your program. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. Yep. Nope. Personal. Not a friend of Taylor. Taylor does respect Ryan Day.

Yeah. Respect. There's a respect level. But if I'm in Columbus, Ohio, I'm not. There's a respect level you have for him. I have a respect level for Ryan Dayland. There's no doubt about it. Not quite enough to look him in the eyes on the camera, but there's a respect.

You know, you know damn well how that bus works. You bite your tongue. You know how that bus works. But they don't. They don't know. You explained it. Eh. Me.

We're changing that monitor this off season. I got to have it right in front of the camera. Just look it up the whole time. I'm in. I am going to take Ohio State in the game for the same reasons I took Georgia against Ole Miss because I don't want to overlook the staff factor here and the staffing edge and having been there before. It's a big game program. This is unfamiliar territory for all of Miami.

I don't really care like 90s, early 2000s. Nobody on that staff in their current role, let me put it that way, has been this far out on the tree limb. Nobody on that roster. The only one is really Carson Beck. He's been there. with Georgia. That's why I think he's a strength in this game for them. It's the biggest point spread in the playoffs, and it's the game that actually intrigues me the most. Because if you start seeing the game get bogged down, it spreads out the window. The two best defenses that

I watched Ohio State play this year were probably Texas and Indiana. And they scored 14 and 10. Michigan. Yeah, but they took care of Michigan pretty handedly. Okay. We don't have to say it like that, what if it's that kind of game? Like, really, what if Miami needs 17 points to win? I don't think it'll be that kind of game, for the record. Like, I think Ohio State will probably learn from their mistakes in terms of approach against Indiana. And if they go down, they're going to go down swinging with those wide receivers. And that's why I think Ohio State will win, because I think they'll get plenty enough offensive juice here to where they don't condense the game and insert so much variance into the equation.

they don't let Miami take over. Also, Ohio State's not backing down physically from anyone. So it's not like I think Miami's going to overwhelm them with physicality. So wouldn't shock me if Miami won, will take Miami in the points. One possession game-ish, I will take Ohio State to win, though. Which I think a lot of people are going to do as a cop-out in this game, by the way. Take Miami with the points? Yeah.

I think Ohio State's going to blow them. I think Ohio State's going to beat by three touchdowns. Run it up. Big. Yeah, big. Compton big. What's the thinking? Big netty big.

So my thinking is, I think you're right. With Miami, I think this game's going to come down to Carson Beck. Like, Miami's going to, Mark Fletcher's going to have to have a big game. But do I honestly believe that they're going to have success running the football against Ohio State? Like, this is one of the best Ohio State defenses that they've had. They're giving up like, what, eight points a game? They haven't given up more than 16 points all year. Yeah, they're giving up eight, yeah.

Like eight points. Yeah, like eight points a game. And then I think about offensively what happened to Ohio State in Indiana. going against Miami, who, by the way, their defensive line, then get after your ass. They're secondary. I loved watching them fly around to the football against A&M. They got Keante Scott back from his injury.

They had him back in the NM game, so he's getting his feet wet. The secondary is opportunistic. I do love Ohio State this challenge going up against Miami's defense. But I think Ohio State giving up five sacks to Indiana is one of those things to where it's like them losing to Michigan last year. I feel like it's kind of the best thing to happen to them in the Big Ten championship. right before they get into the college world playoffs. Because the offensive line is going to be challenged.

They get to live in that, watching the tape, seeing the five sacks, get coached that hard, and then coach Ryan Day calling the plays. I think those are the two X factors for me. Is Ohio State giving up five sacks Indiana, which is the right thing to happen to them in that game, and then also Ryan Day calling plays offensively because we will not have seen the wrinkles

that he's going to put in the offensive strategy against Miami until the game is played, which I do think, I think gives them an edge with the heartline going to USF and everything else. So those are my two factors. Right. I like everything you just said. That's a big reason why I'm taking Ohio State as well. As Brian Hartline, is he with Ohio State right now? I thought I saw a clip of that. He's still in the building. But he's not going to be the play. No, I know that. Yeah. You know, he's a great wide receivers coach. He knows the offense. It's a big asset for them to have. I agree with everything you said. I just only think the X factor from Miami is the defensive one. If they have the ability,

to shrink the game down. Then you don't have to worry about Carson Beck, possibly throwing multiple interceptions. You can just run the ball, dink and dunk, like kind of chop away they did a Texas A&M, but that only happens if Ruben Bain and Company can get after it. But because of the Indiana game and them taking five sacks,

then waking up to a challenge taking place, Ryan Day with his play calling, you know, respect ma'am, very creative in his play calling. He's going to have mismatches everywhere. He's going to motion into mismatches, and that's why I believe Julian San, Cardale Tate, and Jeremiah Smith are going to have massive days.

Do you think there will be aggressive, wire-to-wire offensively? I do. So let me paint you a scenario. I think that's the approach they're going to go in the game with. If they're aggressive early, like everyone thinks aggressive play calling and they never assume the risk with aggressive play calling. Like that's the benefit of being a fan. You just think, oh, what could happen?

Whereas coaches have to think about what could happen on the other side. What if they're aggressive and they turn the ball over first drive? And they know, hey, we got a good defense. We got a good ground game. we could revert to just grind in this thing out. Do you think they go back into the comfort zone of doing that? Or do you think they still push the pedal down, even if things go sideways, open and drive?

I think they look at the Michigan game. That's what I was just going to say. They have a perfect example of that. The first drive, the first throw at the game, they run a – Jeremiah Smith runs a little crow route, gets picked off, and they still hold them to three. And then they come back and they just put their gas, their foot even more on the pedal, press it even harder.

And that is, I think as much pressure, was in that Michigan, Ohio State game because of the last four years. And then for just not go back to, hey, let's take a little off saying, let's run the ball a little bit. They were just as aggressive after that first play, the rest of the game. And I think if they get in that position in the first couple of drives, nothing changes for them. And I just think. And Julian Seine has done such a great job of taking care of the football as well. He's also throwing routes on air, which is, you know, you got two aliens.

It's not his fault because they have so much separation. But he's done an amazing job of like taking care of the ball and seeing comes. not getting, you know, deceived. Julian saying is still a stud. Stud. Yeah. You're starting quarterback for Ohio State, young guy. Right.

He is thrown to aliens. Right. And we get to talk, again, we get to talk about all the offense in the world with every game, a quarterback, play, run game, everything else, which team has wide receivers. And it's hard to always prop up and talk highly of a defense. And Ohio State has that defense. Yeah. So I love Ohio State.

And it goes back to every time we break. down Ohio State's games throughout the year on this show. It's been Matt Patricia and teams have to get into a position of we have to see what Matt Patricia is going to give us before we can truly have our own game. It terrifies me. They interviewed him yesterday at media days for the Cotton Bowl and he laughed during the answer as he said, we'll probably show some things we haven't seen this year. We'll just have to get to the game to find out what that is. I'm not Carsonback. But if I were, that would keep me up about 15 minutes longer tonight than I would. was going to stay up.

I mean, the keys are stop the run and take away Tony. That's true. Stop the run and take away Tony. And then whatever he has creatively going on, Patricia, in that defense, I think that's where, again, the game is going to come into the lap of Carson Beck and Kenny show up in the big moment or come back from behind against Ohio State. Forcing him to kick three if they ever get the opportunity to. I think Elijah Lofton tied in from Miami, if they were to win, has to have like a sneaky

strong stat line game here. Yeah. Because somebody outside of Malachi, Tony has to step up. I mean, the reason Ohio State is so good is because no one's really going to shut Jeremiah Smith down. But theoretically, if you did, they always have two or three other ones that could shoulder the load of a game. Miami, I'm not going to say they don't have that. They haven't had that on paper this year. Yeah.

One last thing about the kicker. You were on the field. You understood the win. I was up in the rafters. I felt the wind as well. Not so much, though. Everyone's going to look at how many kicks the kicker missed in the Texas A&M game. and they're going to go in the same thought process as you're in a dome, there's no win, nothing.

But if he misses that first kick, run him right back out there. Buddy, the mental fortitude won't. It'll be bad. I'm not saying it'll be good. But if he misses that first or second kick, if they're given the opportunity, or given the opportunity to make it into the red zone, because I think Ohio State has that ability to keep you on your side of 50 for 50 minutes of that game. They have that type of potential. If you have them kick in the first quarter and he,

misses this nine and a half should be a lot baby um you said the most points that ohio state has given up this year 16 right you know what the miami total point over under just team points here is on this game yeah is it 40 no no no no Miami team total just Miami 14 and a half it's 15 and a half where are you going under on that? Yeah. I think I may go over on it. Oh, you're thinking they're going to have the best offensive showing that any other team has had. It means Ohio State winning this thing 24 to 17.

Gets me a win. It gets me a Miami cover. It gets an Ohio State outright win. I mean, 24 to 17 seems like a plausible route for this game to go. I don't like the way that goes. I'm taking it Ohio State minus nine and a half. Let me ask this also. The winner of this game,

goes to the Fiesta Bowl to face the winner of Georgia versus Ole Miss. What do you think the odds are we get Miami Ole Miss in the semifinals? It seems so remote that it's the kind of thing that you dismiss to the point where you say, man, watch that happen. Watch that end up being the way this goes. And then on the other one, which would be the main event, you know, if Dan Lannning and Oregon do come out on top and I'm wrong on the Rose Bowl, you do know what that gives us in the semi-barnage, right?

Right down the road in Atlanta, we get son versus father. Dan Lening versus Big Nettie. And that's what we need. Those chances of that Ole Miss game happening? Low, but not zero. Probably the same as me getting three fantasy championships in a row.

I gave you the numbers earlier. If Miami takes down Ohio State, clearly right now they're the favorite to win the national title, but if Miami takes down Ohio State... It's wide open. It's wide open. Now, let me throw one more thing at you. What would happen?

Well, let me back up. The Big Ten this year is viewed universally as the best conference at the top, right? Which I agree with. So I'm sharing. Is it universally? I mean, there may be a guy in Tupelo and Mississippi who's just machete across the chest, SEC, all the way. Or your entire live show, all the fans of your live show. They came at you pretty hard.

They came at you pretty hard. I think they would disagree at the Big Ten at the top. is the best. You screamed at some of the fans. Well, they were being nasty. They were. And sometimes you have to raise your, you have to elevate the voice a little bit because so many people want to talk over each other. You just got to get that high pitch. I was just getting financial advice. You had all kind of obscenities being

hurled at you. That guy was incredible. So, but think about this. All right, so there's always like a possibility that you've just misread the room all year. The possibility is eliminated when you have a ton of cross-pollination. Like you have a ton of out-of-conference versus out-of-conference.

So in the SEC and the ACC, We've got a ton of examples of out-of-conference play to where you felt like you got a pretty good read on the SEC and the ACC. Big Ten and Big Ten, there's not a lot of that, but the Big Ten specifically, the best out-of-conference win for the Big Ten this year was Ohio State over Texas. That's in week one, 14 to 10 in Columbus. The next best out-of-conference win they had, I think, was Illinois overdued. So you're looking at what you're seeing and you think your eyes are telling you the truth. I'm admitting. I think this, too.

I think Ohio State and Oregon and Indiana at various points this year, maybe even now, may have been better than anything the SEC had to offer. There is always the possibility that you were wrong because there was a very incestuous sort of silo-based stat profile. And the way you would know you're wrong is early on if Miami's doing something to Ohio State you didn't think would happen. Maybe even they win. But if it's just a close game, then you turn on the Orange Bowl the next morning in Texas Tech's up 13 to nothing. And then you turn on the Rose Bowl and Alabama upsets Indiana and over the span of less than 24 hours, your entire worldview of what the Big Ten was this year could crash in on you.

So that's what I'm always careful of because we don't have enough out of conference games in college football. I wish we have more of them. So you still get to the end of the road sometimes and you just have to think you know about these conferences. That's a good point. You know what I mean, William? Yeah, I know what you mean. He's sizing it up. He's getting us ready to be like I told you.

He's also in an article. We are too. He's got some SEC bias. Yep. We're both Big Ten guys. Oh, what did you score? What did you score? Um, plus 20 something.

What was I? I wasn't as bad as some of them. Some of them were like, I mean you were right next to each other. What is, what is this article we're talking about? There's a, there's an article I believe it was from awful announcing. Oh. Yeah.

And they basically tier, they basically ranked all the bias in perceived bias. Perceived bias. media. Higher numbers, worse or better? Higher numbers are worse. Like they had they had like an unbiased list that was like from what zero to five or something like that like say they have a point bias or something or no bias at all. These are fine bomb was number one I think wasn't he number one like no no no with most bias. Yeah yeah yeah yeah like plus 90% SEC bias right and you guys were both 20 what was that? You were like 37. I'll take that number big 10. You're like 37 big 10 I think I was like 20 mid-20s or

I was something like that Big Ten and then Peyton was right below me I was 29 Josh was 27 what was I? Taylor you were 37 I'll take 37

and he was pro Big Ten Pro Big Ten pro-Beg ten pro-SECC yeah that's a great balance to the show and there was no negative like negative G5 they didn't even do that right no

that's all the different way HAT's G5 dude I'm fighting up for these games It's going to be a big weekend. Is this separation? There's two games. I took a total in the quarterfinals.

I don't even know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing as soon as the show's over. He's got over the rushing yards. Yeah, and he's got Miami to cover against Ohio State. I sure do. And he snuck in some props there. Snuck in some good props. You saw it coming from a mile away, though.

We're sitting over on the other side and he's like, do you guys do props? You can't if you want. I want to see what this is on before. Oregon rushing yards is now. dropped in 140. Ooh. So you need a push forward. Bad bet Pate.

Joey McGuire's letter. They're saying, Joey McGuire's letter got out. They're saying we're fading paint. Interesting. I like that. All right, good luck to everybody. We will see you guys next week.

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