Bussin' With The Boys - Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff Semifinal Games W/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, we are finally in the semifinals of this game. We got two games left. Miami versus Ole Miss, who would have thunk it? Oregon versus Indiana, a remiss that took place in the Big Ten earlier this year. Now let's go to the standings. There's only two games left, and now there's only two individuals left. Will Compton has been mathematically eliminated for holding the prize of the one spot in this show. It is just down to me and Josh Pate, separated by one game.
Starting point is 00:00:27 We had a lot taking place. Nebraska. Just last night, we're filming this Tuesday morning. Just last night, they had a quarterback. Now they do not have a quarterback. There's transfer portal stuff going on everywhere. Josh Pate is here. Well, Compton is here to break down his emotions and everything. Let's have a hell of a show. Please do me a favor and just subscribe. Let's have a hell of a show, boys. Big hugs, kind of kisses. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
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Starting point is 00:03:32 There's a lot to talk about in the show. I've never walked in the room with more to talk about than I have today. There is, I know that a lot of this revolves around this man sitting between you and you and not. Yeah, he is the main character. No, no, no. That's about the 14th.
Starting point is 00:03:46 teams we got in the college football will playoff. We don't want to take away from their stories. It's about the kids. It's about the kids. It's about the kids. It's about the kids. About the kids. The kids have let you down. In the words of Josh Payton, you weren't wrong.
Starting point is 00:03:56 They were wrong. But they were wrong enough to where you are mathematically eliminated from. I'm a one in three last week. Yep. Someone will break that down for me. You picked four games. One was correct. When Alabama got blown out?
Starting point is 00:04:12 Alabama got blown out. And by all the trashy. I went three and one. What are you looking at me for? You, I've never seen you so strong on a game. And by the way, great pivot because now I'm off of you. I'm on him. Alabama plus seven and a half sitting right here looking at me. That was easy work, man. Insane. Hey, do me favor. This was your opening ad copy. Could you read the words I point to? Gambling is for entertainment.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I was not entertained. I was not entertained during the Rose Bowl. It was entertaining. How peak was that post-game video? In my personal experience, maybe Taylor has a different experience. I've never seen you feel more confident about an Alabama team in a game. Even though they gave you their resume there at the end of the year. Since we've known you, you've always done a great job.
Starting point is 00:05:08 We've said early in the year, we said in the year, we said in the year. Something about Josh Pee's bulletproof. He always has a way of even when he's wrong, he seems right. Like he has a way of like even when the shrapnel and everything's coming at him. It doesn't affect him. This is the only time you've laid your neck out on the line only to be placed in a guillotine and be fucking chopped off. I'm looking up at my own body. You're looking up.
Starting point is 00:05:29 You are floating away towards the sky and looking at what you've displayed for yourself. And you chose an Alabama team that came back against Oklahoma. And that was good enough for you to ignore the SEC championship. That was good enough. They came back against Oklahoma. and you're like, that's enough for me to get my homer brain to finally be like, Alabama's a beating Indiana. Taylor, but did they come back against Oklahoma or did Oklahoma kind of?
Starting point is 00:05:56 I think Oklahoma kind of. In my defense, there is no defending me. I tried to get skinny and I couldn't. On this one, I didn't say the kid screwed up. I just, you know, I lost the game. But we were really, really emphatic. Excuse me, I was really emphatic about that last week. And we made the whole social reel.
Starting point is 00:06:18 went out there, tag Ty Simpson. By the way, really silent when they lose a game, Ty Simpson. Yeah, you got to live and die by the sword. He'll learn that with age. Yeah, you have his back and they get blown out. I got, I got nothing. I'm just left standing here holding the back. Celebrations going on.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I'm kind of picking Indiana, knowing Ty is going to see it being like this is, you guys, you wanted this. You wanted the wolf, the whole thing. Give him the fodder that Ty needs to win this game. Give him the motivation he looks at and he goes, good. The boys have my back without having my back. You hated going three and one. I hated that.
Starting point is 00:06:47 You hated winning that game. I would have much rather gone two and two. Much rather gone. So you and I were sitting there and the semis evened up. I like to think that at the end of that game, which was about five and changed to go in the first half, as it turns out. But I like to think at the end of that game, those kids are on that bus ride home. Kaelin DeVore is on that bus ride home. That staff's on that bus ride home.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Somewhere in the back of their minds, not only did they let down their families, their teammates, their staff, their university. The conference. They let me down too. This is pretty historic. They didn't let you down. They let your wife down. They let my father down. They let your father down.
Starting point is 00:07:29 That's who they really let down. Who calls it like it is. Calls it like he sees it. First time I met him, he looked me in the eyes and he goes, you're the dirtiest son bitch I've ever seen play football. And you didn't disagree?
Starting point is 00:07:38 And my heart sang. To me, that's a massive compliment as an offensive lineman. Like you want to have a scumbag mentality. And he said it right to my mind. Right to my face. A lot of people would say it behind my back, not knowing that I would take his a comment.
Starting point is 00:07:49 He looked me in the eyes, but he's a roll-tied guy all the way. All the way. Do you think your judgment got messed up with your family? No. No, but I will say. He has- Blinded by bias.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I was blinded by bias. I was blinded by wanting to be right in the preseason. In the preseason, I wanted to be right. I did pick Bam in the preseason. I picked Oregon in the preseason. They're still alive. I have long since bailed on both of those predictions. So I wasn't really so much worried about that.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I think maybe there was a part of me way, way, way back in the back of my mind that just still needed to see Indiana win as a big favorite in one of these games, like the long resting. Everyone else will the buys losing. They won. So I've never had Kurt Signity on the show. Has he ever come on this show? Has he ever come on bussing? No, yeah. I think he actually declined us, right?
Starting point is 00:08:35 To the end of the year, hopefully. To the end of the year, but we're going to keep trying. We'll get Big Nettie on. But like right now we're 0 for 1, but baseball, that happens. Yep. So we're sitting around now and you got to wonder like do they change coaching staff? Do they change strength staff? What are they going to do in the portal?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Who's leaving? Who's staying? All this stuff. We got to regroup. Me and Dan Pate. We got some things to talk about. Alabama, there's rumblings behind the scenes about what might be happening in the Central Portal of Alabama.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Are you hearing anything out there? I'm hearing stuff with everybody. I got to hit up. Ty Simpson. I'm hearing there's a wolf looking for a new pack. That's what I, that's all, and it's just whispers. I haven't spoke to the young man, the young wolf. But there's just a couple of whispers.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I just want to know if you've heard those whispers as well. I think Keel and Russell starting a quarterback for Alabama next year. So that's what I think. But that may mean Ty Simpson's gone to the NFL. Like I still think that's what's going to end up happening with him. But I don't know, man. Because I don't, I've learned a long time ago, guys can be telling you, oh, I'm either coming back or I'm going to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Boom, they're in the portal 24 hours later. So, I mean, to answer your, to my question, I've heard the same rumors you have. I can't substantiate them. And frankly, with the portal, all I choose to do is stay out of it. And I'll text Pete Nacos if I really want to know if something's legit. Or I'll hit up a coach if I really want to know something's legit. Or I'll get a call from Will in the middle of the night if something's happening in Nebraska, which brings me to my next point.
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Starting point is 00:11:46 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.
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Starting point is 00:13:47 All right. The date is conference championship weekend. We're going to do the alt-cast. Big day. Career day for us. It's Alabama, Georgia. It's going to be a back-and-forth game and it's not. It's a blowout.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And we spend the entirety of the second half of that game holding ESPN microphones in our hand, not talking about the action on the field, but talking about whether Alabama belongs in the playoff or not. Some people think they should be in. Other people think they shouldn't be in. William is in the latter camp. He thinks that Notre Dame should be in. And the only thing that's going to keep them out is the college football deep state.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Fast forward 24 hours, the college football playoff committee reveals their correct rankings and their correct seating. I will still stand behind that. Notre Dame is left out. And Lou Holtz is upset and everyone in South Bend, Indiana is upset. And Will Compton is really upset. And he goes on a Twitter rampage about how the college football deep state, has worked to collude against Notre Dame. And to his credit, even though he was incorrect about it,
Starting point is 00:14:46 he stood behind his argument even through the playoffs, even when Alabama was being eliminated the other day. Emphatically, it was a, see, I told you so, moment. It was a big moment for you guys. And so after everything that he's done for Notre Dame, the dust clears and the portal opens. Nebraska needs a quarterback. At that point, after Will Compton has laid his life on the line,
Starting point is 00:15:11 for Notre Dame. Let's talk about what's happening in the port. Yeah. First off, that was a Van Gogh painting. That was. I thought we were... Jackson Pollock it and say, it always comes back to Notre Dame with Wilcofton. And this time it's bit him in the ass. Your loyalty got you killed. Everything I've done for that program, this is how they repay me. On the day on the day of January 5th, this is how they do it to you. What is... Talk to me as much as you can, because I know you're in the weeds in Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Yeah. You've got every coach and GM and AD on speed dial. I'm sure you know a lot more than you're willing to say on this show. So I'm just going to give you the floor. We'll sit back and just, I want you to replay your emotions for me Monday. We leave the office. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Great day. We leave the office. I'm having dinner. Wife and kids. You know, chaos is thinking. Plains trying to get rude to eat. Scott, he's being funny. Slaming stuff on the ground, throwing food on the floor.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Funny not funny. Phone buzzes. Buzz a couple times. Like, oh, what's going on? I see a Nebraska name. Come across my phone. Look at the Nebraska name. And apparently we're losing the quarterback that had just committed to us.
Starting point is 00:16:27 On Friday, when the portal opened, there was a non-contact clause that are a non-contact status that kind of came with. This portal opening of this player, Kenny Mitchie, the quarterback for Notre Dame, who was a backup to CJ Carr, big name in the portal. You're hearing a lot about him, how he's, you know, he can win with his legs, he can win with his arm. A lot of good things. This was Nebraska's number one target. So portal opens up, non-contact status, meaning what that usually means in this college
Starting point is 00:16:57 football world because there is no tampering period or anything else. But usually when somebody comes with that, they're close to a school. And I had learned that we were close to landing, Kenny Minchie. Go ahead. non-contact just means that don't contact him, contact the agent. I'm going in the portal. If I have a non-contact tag, that's translation for I already know where I'm going. Do not call me.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Got you. That's what that means. Understood. 99 times out of 100, we continue with the one time out of 100 story. Yes. And then over the weekend, Kenny Minchie, we land Kenny Minchie in the portal. He's coming to Nebraska. Big announcement.
Starting point is 00:17:31 He's committed. Big announcement. Graphics and everything. Maybe Nebraska's back. Maybe NACOs. I know on three posts about it, but it's public. acknowledge now that Kenny Minchie is coming to the what's up Boston Post it posted it as well you posted a graphic yeah you're welcoming Kenny Minchie to the big red even try Kenny Minchie
Starting point is 00:17:48 a text you're going to look fucking great and red got his number already no response that now looking back hindsight that should have been a red flag for a little yeah yeah so the weekend goes and everything set up we got our quarterback he is committed to the university Nebraska just pin has not been put to paper yet formality formality which again understand all that stuff I under when we were in the game it was verbal committed once you sign the deadline that's when you actually have them so Monday night rolls around and I get these texts and we're losing the quarterback and I'm learning about what went down to my knowledge what I understand the situation to be was that Nebraska was
Starting point is 00:18:26 told all weekend that he's committed because on the Braska side of it they are pushing and following up not pressuring but following up hey where is Kenny at with the contract like we got the contract to you on Friday morning when the portal opened up. We need him to sign that contract because, you know, Coach Rule the big, the big man are like, hey, when is the quarterback? When are we getting pinned to paper? Go ahead. Before you knew that the result that we know now happened, were you aware that this pen to paper thing was going to be an issue? No. You just thought we got our guys. I just thought, you know, you're laying your head of your
Starting point is 00:18:58 pillow. Yeah, business is still taking place. Again, I'm not, I'm not as tied into the portal stuff like, you know, like, like, like Pete was talking about. I'm not like deep in the weeds. everything that's happening in the portal. I might see guys names come up. I might see lists happening. I might shoot a text. Hey, what quarterbacks are we actually looking at? Let me know if you need any help with anything.
Starting point is 00:19:15 But so I'm just thinking it's all business-related stuff. He's going to sign the contract. He was supposed to visit on Wednesday. And to my knowledge, again, he not only wanted to come and visit on Wednesday, but stay and Nebraska and help recruit the rest of the portal, all this free agency that's going on with 5,000 guys in the transfer portal. And we get to, you get up to last night, And again, from what I understand it to be, the agent was telling Nebraska all weekend long.
Starting point is 00:19:42 We're just going through the contract. Everything is all good. He's committed. He's coming to Nebraska. I have a lot of clients right now. I'm dealing with a lot of transfer portal stuff. But Kenny Minchie is coming to Nebraska. Question.
Starting point is 00:19:56 You're watching Titanic right now. It just hit the iceberg, but everyone thinks it's okay and they're going back to sleep. And they're kicking around the iceberg on the deck. And everyone's still laughing. But what they don't know is they're dying and they'll be at the bottom of the Atlantic in two hours. As it turns out, that's the part of the movie we're at right now. And also just to point out, because I love the movie Titanic while this is going on, Jack and Rose are on the bottom deck in a car, Jack being Minchie, Rose being Kentucky,
Starting point is 00:20:24 and they're making love right now. He is, this is the fiancé. So as it unfolds on Monday, Nebraska again follows up. Can't disagree. Go ahead. Play. Nebraska again follows up. Where are we at with the contract? Pinned the paper. When is it happening? I'm still redlining everything again.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Busy season with clients. Stall tactic. The next phone call that takes place to my knowledge is that Nebraska gets called. Kenny's going to Kentucky. He did not know Kenny was going to do that. And that was the last phone call. He never called Coach Rule. He never called Coach Rule back. and that was basically what happened.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Nebraska couldn't get back in the conversation trying to figure out, hey, can we counter what's going, like, what has happened? It's like, hey, he's going to Kentucky. So essentially, you see it as we got blank checked by Kentucky, we got outbid by Kentucky, but we were never able to get back in the ring of Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:21:22 So I'm sitting there taking all of this stuff in. Josh paid alludes to it. I call him, and he's like, what's going on? I was like, I'm standing in my bedroom right now. All of the lights are off. That's when you stop. dinner, table eating. You paused there. And I thought you were in trouble. I thought there was an actual medical situation or perhaps like a home invasion situation. Because you just said, we got big issues.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I'm standing here. My family's downstairs. I'm staring out at the front yard. All the lights are out. Then it just sizzled. And I said, do you need something? Like, what's going on? And there may have been some other mentions that I don't think Lee Lee we can say on air. But then you let me know, kids weren't in danger, wife wasn't in danger, home wasn't being invaded, it was actually something much worse than that. Can you mention that age in fuck Nebraska? This type of stuff happened when you and I were coming out of high school before NIL, before those things, where guys were committed, they're fully in it, day of letter of intent
Starting point is 00:22:20 happens, and they decide to flip their commitment at the last second. Yeah. That does happen. So here's, yes, that happened. There's a little bit of, there's a lot of difference in the structure of how things are set up now because you've, back then, yeah. you were paying guys under the table, there was no like payroll, there was no budget, there was no set cap. And some people still laugh at the concept of a cap in college football, but technically
Starting point is 00:22:41 it exists. But the bigger picture thing is people need to understand the way college football roster construction works right now, there is no more portal after spring. This is it. So you just had your signing class and you've got your portal class right now. And what is it? Like the 16th of January. Once kids are in, that's the deadline. You got to have your roster set for this year. And this dude slash his representation slash his camp just took what 72 or 96 hours from mat rule in Nebraska where they thought they had quarterback figured out and they'd allocated the money the resources to that position that then the rug gets jerked out from under you and so you got to go back to square one on the most important position on the field and you just you may have seen other
Starting point is 00:23:28 guys come off the board that you would have had a shot at in those 96 hours because you took someone at their word. Yeah. So yeah, it's not a good deal. He had a no contact tag too. So that's the other thing is Nebraska is sitting there not thinking anyone else is talking to him. He's committed to Nebraska. No one should be contacting him.
Starting point is 00:23:48 He there, that camp is reaching out to Kentucky. Kentucky is not reaching out to them. My understanding of the no contact tag because when I first saw it, I think we, hey, guys, we all know that stuff's bullshit. Hold on, but listen, my understanding of the no contact tag is do not contact me. personally contact my agent. No, that's just don't contact. But it's really just a tag. There's nothing legally. It's not bound by rule. What clumps say and what is right is that's the equivalent of like if I'm at the end of a dead end road and there's only one road, there's no side roads off this main road and I get word that, hey, you've turned down this road. There's only one place
Starting point is 00:24:23 you could be coming. And that is to me at the end of the road. That's the do not contact tag. The do not contact tag is once the kid goes in the portal, he's got do not contact and you've given word through him or his representation, he's coming to you, you view it as just a formality. You're like, you're letting the boosters know, you're letting your staff know, hey, we got him. We'll see when he makes the announcement. Oh, by the way, then the announcement happens. And so then you're doubly told you, we got him. It is so far in the back of your mind that that could go wrong at that point, that it's not even a concern. So that had to be a bombshell for them in that building. Bombshell. And I think like, obviously over the weekend, there was a
Starting point is 00:24:58 handful of more quarterbacks that were in that top five, the 10 range that committed to another school or transferred into our school. Yes. When I got the information from you, I went on the transfer portal just to look at how people are evaluating quarterbacks, went to the quarterback section, scrolled through. So our boy, Sorsby, Texas Tech, Levitt, looks like he's going to LSU, correct? That's what I heard. It seems like Kentucky was in the running for Levitt.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Which tells you that Sam Levitt is not going to go to LSU because this Minchie kid, Kentucky must have heard from a good agent that he's not going to go to Kentucky. He's going to go into LSU or somewhere else. So I start scrolling down and I'm seeing this person is transferring here, this person. transferring here the first and highest available spot I saw Dylan Rayola you think do you think at number seven maybe some maybe so it was Dylan Rayola transfers to and there was a blank space it was the only one I think it was like two guys within the top 10 quarterbacks I'm like hey maybe you have to maybe you have to go back to what you know hey we've all
Starting point is 00:25:55 We've all seen a nasty go forward. We've all seen a NASCAR race. Maybe I need to re-follow Dylan on Instagram now. Hey, about all that stuff. I said some, this is Adam Sandler. Baby, I'm sorry. I didn't mean. Oh.
Starting point is 00:26:09 I can't, I can't. I know there's lists. You're scrolling to see what optimism there could be with Nebraska. Like, I obviously I want us to be a good football team. Right. You're doing the same thing I'm doing. You're on the phone with a bunch of Michigan people. And you're, every time I see a wide receiver enter the portal.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I'm like, let me see a thing. staff. Guys, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what do you think about this guy? What do you think about about that guy? But I'm also trying to talk about in a way to where I'm separating myself from, like, again, I want Nebraska to win. I want us to get all the best players in the portal. You wrong us. I'm coming after you. Right. But just something that's just, it's always bother me. I know it's always going to continue to happen. I just feel like it's a, it's like a lost cause. This time last year, in one of these games that we're going to break down, Ole Miss Miami, Ole Miss.
Starting point is 00:26:55 will start a quarterback that was at Ferris State a year ago. D2. Don't let anyone tell you there aren't better options out there for Nebraska. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, that's beautiful. And so there's two things you've done beautifully. That and allowing us to get away from you, how hard you are in Alabama right to wheel for the last 30 minutes. That was wildly impressive because you deserve a lot more talking to about what took place last week.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I'm not about getting what I deserve. I'm about getting what I want. Yeah. And that is completely fair. So we get to the festival. We interrupt this episode to bring you form energy. Form Energy delivers best in class taste with natural flavors and zero sugar. Form Energy has natural caffeine derived from green tea and comes in a variety of flavors like
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Starting point is 00:28:10 Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you
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Starting point is 00:30:12 Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. The Fiesta Bowl is taking place. Number 10, Miami. Who would have thunked it? Whomstead of thunk it? Whomstead of thunk it? Whomstead of thunk it? Will said that Miami shouldn't be in this game. He sure did.
Starting point is 00:30:30 He said Kenny Minchie and Notre Dame should have been in there. Back up. That's right. You wanted Kenny Minchie in the playoffs. What did I say on, yeah, and also Miami. What did I say on the broadcast? The ass whooping was happening. Alabama should not be in the college football playoff. Put Notre Dame in Miami in the the college football playoff. When I posted before the college football playoff rankings came out, I had a, here's what I think they're going to do. Here's what I wish would happen. And nine, nine and ten were Miami and Notre Dame and 11 and 12 were Alabama and BYU.
Starting point is 00:31:03 So you say what you want. I never said that Miami wouldn't belong. When I argued Miami being out, it was when the argument was just out of Notre Dame in Miami. Wow. Crazy. Just go lose to Louisville, lose to SMU, whatever. Yeah. Miami's fair three and a half. Notre Dame beat Ohio State. by 10, it just proves that Notre Dame. Miami's favorite three and a half. Miami's favorite three and a half. 20 points they gave is 51 and a half. Will, what do you think about this game?
Starting point is 00:31:31 I believe Notre Dame would meet both these teams. Is that going to, are we putting that up on the board? Are those wins? Yeah. I like Miami. I like Miami. I think Miami is the most physical football team that's left in the final four in the college.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Were they the most physical team in the playoff period? I think the answer is also yes. Yes, I would say yes. I know you did a great job kind of break it down. Hey, when people were trying to come after you saying everything on Miami was better than Ohio State, you were absolutely right about the beef that this Miami team has on offense and defensive line. Like Bain, Mesidor, who's, is it Moten? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Moten. That front four, the way they can apply pressure while keeping the back seven, playing coverage, disguising, simulated pressures, all the different things that that Miami defense is allowed to do. who is a Keante Scott who had that pick, that pick six and took it back to the house, dude, they are physical. The back seven will knock your dick in the dirt, bro. They're the most physical
Starting point is 00:32:28 football team. And I love everything about the story of Ole Miss. All four of these teams are something that I love about all of their story arcs. I love that Ole Miss is winning in spite of their head coach. I love that they conquered the Beast in Georgia when they lost to Georgia with Lane Kiffin on the
Starting point is 00:32:44 sideline. I love the high-powered offense. This is an offense that hadn't scored less than 30 all season long. The quarterback, dual threat cat, can beat you the most dangerous. Josh Pate has said it, the most dangerous quarterback in the college football playoff.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I love all of that stuff about them. I think Miami is going to have their handful, is going to have their hands full defensively trying to stop this offense. But I do lean on the physicality in Miami. I lean on the defense that the saviveness that they play with. And I love that Carson Beck has played
Starting point is 00:33:11 with poise in the college football. He's taking care of the football. Fletcher's came alive in the run game. He's averaging, what, 130 across these two games? games. And then last week, it's like, hey, if you're Ohio State, you take away who in the receiving core of Miami? Malachi Tony. Malachi Tony. And he still got, he's still at five receptions, but other cats are coming alive on the outside. And you just see a team that's
Starting point is 00:33:33 fully taken on the identity of their head coach. And I, I love the way Miami's been playing football. I love the way Ole Miss has gotten to this point. I think it's going to be an awesome game. I just lean on the physical and the defense of Miami to beat Ole Miss. Total is what? 51 and a half. Turning away from the spreads, huh? Yeah. You like the under?
Starting point is 00:33:54 Scared ball. No. You like the over? Yeah, I think I'm going to take the over as my pick. Then why not take Ole Miss plus three and a half? Because I still think Miami's going to win. With the over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Ole Miss is defense. They're light in the ass in the second level. I'm always looking at that second level. Always looking at them thighs in the second level. They do have a defense so where Miami can keep up with them in this game, and it's going to come down to Miami making some of those big plays defensively, getting after Chambliss and trying to get him to the ground when he is being dangerous on the outside. I could see it being a high school game in Miami just coming out on top.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I was at the SMU Miami game earlier this year and Kevin Jennings went off. He was hurt too and he went off against Miami. Now, I'm going to tell you straight up, I think Miami's playing at a way different level now than they were in that game. It's probably a wake-up call for him. All right, so over 51 and a half is going to be my pick. If I picked against the spread, it would be Miami minus the points. my question is, is this game played like in structure? Because if it's played in structure, if there's not a ton of Trinidad-Chamless circus plays like he had against Georgia,
Starting point is 00:34:58 I would love Miami to cover. I probably love the under at that point too. But the thing about that is when you think you've got a two-way disadvantage on the line of scrimmage, which Oleness does here, there's not much incentive to play the game in structure. So there's incentive to just wildly fire until the chamber. are empty. And at that point, you tip your cap to Miami if they just leaned on you and they won the game. Here's what would make me nervous a little bit. We've long since documented on this show, Miami's done a really good job containing mobile quarterbacks. Trinidad Chamblis is not the kind of
Starting point is 00:35:28 guy who's going to rack up a ton of rushing yardage. That was never going to be his game. His game is extending plays like you saw against Georgia. Maybe occasionally he runs for a first down. Carson Beck doing that too, by the way. But what would make me nervous is Miami's ground game against really good run defenses has held up in the playoff. They had 28 for 175 against A&M. That's a top 40 run defense. They had 37 for 153 against Ohio State. That's a top 10 run defense. Old Miss is 65th. So there is a world where if Ole Miss does not come out of the gate hot and the game just settles in, that Miami just settles in. And they just start leaning and it's a methodical game and it's over in three hours and eight minutes and Miami wins and they move on. And you end up saying,
Starting point is 00:36:12 wow, that was kind of boring. That was kind of anticlimactic. The one problem, potentially, with Miami getting the game they want is it compresses the game and it builds a trapdoor situation where Ole Miss does nothing early. Miami just starts running the ball, grinding the clock. They're up seven to nothing. They're up 10 to three. You get to halftime and you think this is utter domination on the stat sheet. But the scoreboard says it's one possession because that's how those games go. That's a four-quarter approach and you end up stretching it at the very am. The trapdoor comes where you've done, you've seen Ole Miss do nothing and it's late third quarter and Miami's up like, you know, a possession, maybe 10 points or something like that.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And then all of a sudden the fact that Ole Miss is number four in the country in explosive plays, number three in the country and catbuster plays happens and it validates and just out of nowhere, boom, boom, and you look up and you are dominating, you're out gaining them, you've got all the advantages on the stat sheet and it's tied. And at that point, your strategy has worked against you. Because you've run the ball, you've grinded clock, you've condensed the game, and it's the fourth quarter, and we each got two possessions left now. And they figured out a way to tie it up. And at that point, Trinidad Chambers can do one special thing and beat you. So I think it's a big mistake if Miami starts good, and then they try and grind the pace to a halt.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I really think they've got to be aggressive. There's no reason for me to look at Carson Beck against this Ole Miss team and think anything other than he should be a weapon. Malachi Tony should be a weapon. You talked about getting a few more receivers worked in. Our run game, we should be balanced. We should be able to hang 35 on them if we need to, and there's no way they're scoring 35 on us. So I think Miami, even if they get off to a strong start,
Starting point is 00:37:54 got to keep scoring. Got to keep scoring. And that's why my strategy is over 51.5. But I think Miami's going to win and cover. Miami's going to win and cover. So your bet is over 51. My bet is the total. My heart is with Miami minus 3.5.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Got you. I agree with everything you guys said, especially when it comes to the track. like Miami has a massive edge on the offensive line side of the ball and the defensive line side of the ball. The thing that gives me a little bit of pause is can Ole Miss run the ball effectively in this game? And it's not about Trayette Chambliss dropping back, scanning, surveying, and passing the ball to the field. It's behind the line of scrimmage, like you said, extending plays when these defensive defense on the back end try to plaster,
Starting point is 00:38:36 someone gets loose like they have the entire season against Ole Miss and he makes big plays down the field over and over and over again. Couple that with Ole Miss using a lot of tempo in this game to slow down that defensive line and make them run east to west over and over. By the time of getting that third and fourth quarter, I like Ole Miss. That's where I get worried. Because I really think like we've we've questioned Ole Miss throughout this entire process. We've watched them, we've watched their head coach take all his coaches from LSU back to Ole Miss, back and forth as the weeks have gone on. Lane Kiffin is leaving LSU bowl games early. he's making his coaches come back to do recruiting visits
Starting point is 00:39:14 while also they're trying to game plan for a semi-final playoff spot and the only thing these kids have done is just exceed every expectation out there. I feel like America's like rooting for this. And I sit there and one of them. Yeah, I sit there and I'm like root for him against Georgia. Lucy, the running back is a dog. Yeah, Lacey.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Lacey the running back is a dog. Yeah, Lucy, Lacey. Lucy Nicotine's incredible. Dude, there's, I think in this game if Ole Miss can do what they've done, the entire year, aside from, I believe it was Washington State early in the season when they kind of had a sleeper before a big game. Close game. Close game. Sleeper before a big game. I think you're going to put Miami situation to where Carson Beck, everyone wants to talk
Starting point is 00:39:52 about Carson Beck and how at the beginning of the season went, a little stumble in the middle, but it's been great since then. He threw up 156 yards in the last game. Miami has- I don't feel like people are saying like he's out there bowling, like he's doing what he needs to do to win the game. On the show, somebody not Will Compton said, you look at Carson Beck as a weapon in this game. I think if you use Carson Beck as a weapon in this game, you have a high probability of turnovers. Don't you think he was used as a weapon last game? With his legs. But I think with his arm on third down, he was a weapon too. We're doing it for 156 yards. True. They were very effective yards. You saw him with that shoulder last game, right?
Starting point is 00:40:31 I did see it. Putting that shoulder down on some boys. Weight room. I think they run the ball really effectively. I think they've proven that you said the stats right there. I, I I think if Ole Miss can turn this into a game that Ole Miss wants to play, where it's 50-30 and a third width and 100 yards long and allow to make these defensive linemen run east to west throughout the entire game and tire them out and extend plays, have some explosives here and there, but get them 10, 12 play drives.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I like Ole Miss in this game, and I'm taking Ole Miss to cover three and a half. The other part of the trapdoor theory, I'm glad you mentioned that, because part of the trapdoor theory is, hey, Miami's up at the half, but you look at the stat sheet and Ole Miss ran 3rd, 39 plays.
Starting point is 00:41:12 And the 39 plays involved those defensive linemen on the field and you converted some third downs and you just made them stay on the field and you're looking and you're saying 39, hmm, what's about to happen in the second half? Because the thing about big dudes that you'll notice that doesn't apply to DBs or wide receivers is once their tank is empty, their tank's just empty.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Right. They don't reload. Big dudes don't reload, especially defensive linemen. They don't really reload. And so once they're gassed, they're gassed. And that's what worries me. And that's why I think even if it's a lower scoring game to start out with, I still like that over. Because I think at some point, if you even get a fraction of what Ole Miss did against Georgia,
Starting point is 00:41:50 there's going to come a time where that game turns loose in the second half, maybe early fourth quarter. And that's what makes me nervous. So I still like Miami because I think they can score too. I just think they may have to score because they give up a little bit more than they're used to. Right. But if you look at both teams, you're like which team has to score? who do I feel more comfortable with producing seven as opposed to three? What team are you picking in just that situation?
Starting point is 00:42:15 It would be Ole Miss, but I will say this. Ole Miss may have the greatest kicker in the history of organized sports. That dude's once you, if you could fair catch the ball in the end zone, he's almost in field goal range. You need about 10, 15 yards. I feel like that dude would have been good from 75 the other day. Yeah, I like Ole Miss. I love the story too.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I love how Lane Kiffin is now like just actually trying to ruin. their playoff situation. He's like no longer hiding. At first it was like, let me try to be a little more sneaky about this. Now he's out of the bushes. He's out of the bushes just be like, hey, we're, we can't let them miss to win this. This can not happen. I love all of the stories of these four teams.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Yeah, absolutely. That are left. Yeah, my heart is, I'm worried about this next game we're about to talk about. But I do, I'm excited to watch this game as a fan and see all the ACC debtors, myself included, see if they are like, hey, They get something to stand out, hey, well, our ACC football team is in the national championship. And then this old Miss saga with Lane Kiffin and all the things he tried to do to derail them, can they withstand all the distraction? Yeah. And just can, and just be great.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And don't give the ACC that, bro. Like, just a very mediocre. Do you want outside of Miami? They have Miami. But it's the same thing. Now the ACC can sit there and say, our top is better than anybody else's top. Sure, yeah. Which is like, yeah, it's a whole other war for next year.
Starting point is 00:43:38 when we get after the season. I just love hearing the rumblings too, the U is back. You hear what Mario said about that? What did Mario say? So Mario, I was down there three years ago, and I was sitting in his office, and he just went on this tirade, which was off camera, and he's really good off camera.
Starting point is 00:43:57 He's okay on camera. Mario's a really good off camera. So he's just pounding Cuban coffee shots at his desk, and he's going off about the U being back. He said, I'm going to clean it up a little bit, but he said, I'm so tired of these people asking me when the U's going to be back. The U's never going to be back.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Because we can't ever replicate what we did in the late 80s and early 90s. Not because we don't want to, but because the entire sport has changed. It's impossible for anyone to do what we did in the late 80s and early 90s. I'm not focused on bringing the U back. I'm focused on building what the U is going to be. I sat there and I said, put that on a T-shirt. That's great. Well, that's three years ago.
Starting point is 00:44:30 So they've still had some bad losses since then. And like people have been up and down on him saying he's just a recruiter. He can't do this. He can't do that. A lot of cannot when it should have been has not. So now they're four quarters away from playing for a national championship in their own building, by the way. It would be a home game for the national title game. And he said it the other night.
Starting point is 00:44:48 They interviewed him. I think Scott Van Pelt had him on SportsCenter. He's got the headset on. He's right there. There's confetti still flying down. And he said a version of that. He said, I've not really been worried about getting the U back. That was another era in college football history.
Starting point is 00:45:03 We love the tradition. We appreciate it. We respect it. But I'm focused on building what the U. is going to be. That's the exact proper stance to have. He had it. It's not some new catchphrase that marketing gave him on a post-it note. Like, that's how they've constructed things down there. Because the only thing that this Miami team would have in common with those teams if they won the title was that they won the title. Nothing about the way these teams are constructed now
Starting point is 00:45:26 has anything in common with the way Howard Schnellenberger or Jimmy Johnson or anyone like that put those teams together back then. That's fair. Also, Michael Irvin on the sideline, belt ass. Belt ass. Ray Lewis showed on. Ray Lewis. You got to wonder who's going to be there this week. You got to wonder. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:43 The U's back. They're bringing the U back. Let's get to Big Nettie and Laining. You want me to read it? Sure, yeah. Big Nettian Laning. I have a nine and a half on the nervousness scale about to predict this game.
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Starting point is 00:46:41 Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
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Starting point is 00:47:31 Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite, unhumored me with Robert Smygel and friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand, because I think, competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris, every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win
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Starting point is 00:48:52 This is the Peach Bowl, Mercedes-Benz Stadium. Number five, Oregon versus number one in Indiana. Indiana's favored by three and a half points. Total in that game is 46.5. No one wants to go first. No. No one wants to have this conversation. Dan Lannning, friend of the show.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Signetti, denier, but soon to be friend of the show. Doesn't know it yet. Maybe the most well-coached football team in Bloomfield, Indiana. Bloomington. Bloomington, Indiana. Followed by the second best coach team in Eugene, Oregon. Are they, though? Yeah, they're good.
Starting point is 00:49:30 They're well-coached. Do you really think so? Situational, I think they're really good, yeah. And I hated situational offense within this last game. I hated it. I mean, Will Stein's partly checked out. He's busy taking your quarterback down there at Kentucky. God bless. They go for it eight times on fourth down. That's the new age of football.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Dude, I'm telling you. That is the new age of football. You're not about to tell me everyone's just out there going for it over half a dozen times on fourth down per game. It looked a little shaky. We got to get him on the phone with Greg Olson. I've heard, no, I'm not saying the analytics don't make sense. I'm not saying the analytics don't make sense. I'm saying, all right, forget the fourth down thing. That's a byproduct of, I think, some offensive inefficiency that they had in this game. So I'm kind of joking, but I'm kind of serious.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Texas Tech got some defense. But that's true. There was a lot of stuff that Oregon could afford to get away with against Texas Tech that would just bankrupt you against Indiana. Because Indiana can make you pay for that stuff. And, man, I'm telling you, I go back a couple of years. I remember DeBore was still at Washington, Laning, and Oregon played them twice. One in Seattle, one in the Pac-12 championship game.
Starting point is 00:50:33 And I was up at the game in Seattle. He goes for it on fourth down a couple of times. they don't convert and they lose and he just gets a drug in the media. And I respected him because he said we just didn't execute. Like I'm not changing my strategy. I'm not changing my formula. And that got borne out because later in the year they still go
Starting point is 00:50:48 forward on fourth down. But then they got to the Pack 12 championship game. And I ran my mouth all year about how Oregon in the rematch, they'll win it. They're favored by like 10. And they got beat worse that time than they did the first time around. And so this whole Dan landing in a rematch thing still got to see it. That's part one. But part two is the fourth down thing.
Starting point is 00:51:08 So last week, you go for it eight times on fourth down. You convert four of them. There were a lot of arguments that maybe you kept Texas Tech in the game by not converting. So the answer is, of course, to execute and you convert and you're good. But there's another thing that could creep into play here. You're watching the film of Alabama and Indiana. Kalin DeBore just egregiously goes for it on fourth down on his own 30-yard line. They don't convert, and the dam breaks on Alabama.
Starting point is 00:51:35 So you've got your fourth down experience against Texas Tech. You've got people experiencing fourth down failure against Indiana. You've got your entire career and your ethos and your DNA. How are you going to handle fourth down play calling, fourth down decision making in this game? Because the best thing Indiana does is they force you off of who you are. Like there's no world where I think Alabama is making those decisions against Georgia or Tennessee. But Indiana made them feel the pressure and make those decisions. And so these decisions, these game decisions, these third and fourth down play calling decisions,
Starting point is 00:52:09 I wonder how different that looks in this game. And then the other thing that I wonder is, is there enough looseness in the puzzle? Like, are there enough blank pieces in the puzzle of Indiana? Or are they just fully put together? Because the puzzle that's fully put together, that's just, there's no loose ends, there's no blank spaces, there's no weaknesses, in other words. Which means you have to either be as good as them, and execute or you just got to be more talented than them
Starting point is 00:52:38 and execute at a relatively high level. And I just hadn't seen anyone do it this year. So I think the staff edge goes to Indiana because I don't care what Dan Lansing says. I hate that you have staffs, including his, that have multiple coordinators on their way out the door. You will never convince me that's not an issue. And I think conditionally,
Starting point is 00:52:59 once we get out of the playoffs and you start to get some truth serum and some folks anonymously, I'm not just talking about Oregon here. I'm talking about a number of stats. You will hear that this was a huge impediment to people's preparation and people's game week execution. You will hear that.
Starting point is 00:53:14 So Dante Moore, I think the game falls on him. Dante Moore got picked off a couple of times, I think, in this game the first time around. He's second half, too. It's because their average distance to gain on third down was over six yards. So they got to get him in manageable situations. They had five third and nine plus situations.
Starting point is 00:53:33 So third and fourth down, I know it's always important. It's the most important out of any of these playoff games for Oregon in this game. So if anyone can convince me, they're going to execute it that high a level. I would pick Oregon. But they didn't against Texas Tech. I think Indiana can put the heat on you every bit as much, if not more, than Texas Tech. So I'm just done doubting him.
Starting point is 00:53:59 You got his number. I don't. I don't have Kurt Signity's number. He's never texted me. but I know not to doubt him so if Dan landing needs disrespect if Dan landing needs doubt if he needs a face to look at in the mirror other than his own he can look at mine because I may not be doubting him I'm just believing in the other guy more so I'm gonna take Indiana to win I will take Indiana to cover so Dan Lanning looks in the
Starting point is 00:54:31 mirror and he sees a doubter and it's Josh Pate It's unfortunate that he'll also be in the Taylor-L-Wan. Oh, my goodness. I believe Indiana is the best coach team in all of college football right now. 13 points that Oregon got came from four turnovers against Texas Tech. Indiana is not going to give you those types of opportunities. Dan Lannning, as much as I love him, you're right. He's a super aggressive guy who's going to live and die by his own sword.
Starting point is 00:54:57 You pointed out the couple of years ago against Washington, Killing DeBore, going for a fourth down. If I'm strategically going against Indiana, and my office, is not getting off to a good start, and I know how they can kind of just trudge down the field, running the ball, RPO is passing the ball. I'm going to flip the field on them and make them go the length of the field. I agree. I don't know if Dan will do that. I agree.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Because he's shown that. And you, I mean, you said all of it. They were horrible on third down last time. I think he got sacked. How many times? Six times. In the first matchup. I think three of 14 on third down, maybe.
Starting point is 00:55:32 I think that number goes down a little bit because of the injury that took place to that, that player that I can't remember his name right now. But you're not going to get four turnovers against Indiana. You're going to have to go the length of the field. You're not going to get him on some petty. They jumped off sides. There's a free five yards. So we're going to take a shot down the field. Dante Moore to win to win this game, Dante Moore has to be elite. Yep. It can't be your run game. It can't be 6.7 on the ground. I know their rushing stats weren't great in this last game, but a lot of that comes back to how many times he was sacked. It does. Even the sack adjusted, though. They were under two yards per carry. So,
Starting point is 00:56:06 They suck running the ball even without sacks. But if you take out sacks in the Indiana game, they were near five yards per carry. They did not run the ball terribly against Indiana the first time around. That's why the key, I said it eventually falls on Dante Moore. That's all predicated on your run game being able to do enough of what it should be able to do. Like Bama had nothing running the ball in Indiana. You should have something. Not a whole lot, but you should have something running the ball against Indiana.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Stephen Daly being out for Indiana ended up not mattering against Bama. Maybe it matters in this game. Maybe this is where that shows up. I don't know if it does. And based on my pick, I don't think it does. And it breaks my heart for Oregon. It breaks my heart because I'm a massive fan of Dan Lanning. And then when he looks in the mirror of doubt,
Starting point is 00:56:48 he's going to see both of our faces. We'll find out if there's three faces in front of them in just a second. But they have to do things we haven't seen on film in order for them to be successful against Indiana. And because of that, I have to go with the safer bet, which is I have to pick the team that I've seen do it on film, which is Indiana. Do you remember landing post-game against Penn State?
Starting point is 00:57:08 Yeah, coked out of his mind. Not really coked out. People are going to take that and run with it. Good old-fashioned Coca-Cola Classic. Yeah. Polar Bear style. That has to pale in comparison. You know he's watching.
Starting point is 00:57:20 You know how he has to feel. And he's seated like I am right now because he knows there's one man who can save him. There's one man who can pull the nose up on this before it craters into the earth. His name is William Compton. his nose is cratered into the earth. You're kidding me.
Starting point is 00:57:39 No. This, hey, but here's a positive. Before even breaking anything down. This is exactly what Oregon needs. This is exactly what Oregon needs to win. One, two, three on Indiana. It's crazy. Welcome to the show, boys.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I've been on this for a week longer. All good. I'm happy to have you. But this is going to help Oregon win this game. There ain't much to break down. You guys laid out scenarios where the game could be played like four different ways. every outcome screams Indiana.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Not a whole lot of fodder from Big Nettie, the name Big Nettie, texting me other than he knows I'm his daddy. Yeah, that was it. And he... And I sit there and read that and I'm like, he is his daddy. Like, Big Nettie is big bro, and Lannning is little bro. In this situation.
Starting point is 00:58:28 There's no... And everybody knows we love Oregon. We love Oregon. Our bias lies with Laning in Oregon. Absolutely. What that fan base does, anytime we go out there. Animal House. Animal House.
Starting point is 00:58:43 You still haven't seen the movie. Got to watch it. But hey, Animal House. Master fan. Matt Kearney. Yeah. He's got the song. He's got the song.
Starting point is 00:58:53 He's got the song. He's got the Oregon. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. But, boys, it's heartbreaking. Yeah, it's Kurt Big Nettie. After all the things that he said. Not about Dan.
Starting point is 00:59:05 You can talk about a guy. You talk about a guy's family. You talk about a guy's wife. And the beautiful thing is a lot of times when people trash talk to you where they take shots at you in life, you don't get a chance to seek retribution. You don't get a chance to avenge yourself. Dan Lanning has a chance to avenge himself, his name,
Starting point is 00:59:23 his team, his family, his wife. His friends. Us. Yeah. But Kirk Bignetti is going to be across the sideline. He's going to look at Dan and he's going to go. and it's over was there a harder clip to come out of this last week
Starting point is 00:59:39 than when he did that to Pat McAfee? That's unbelievable. It was unbelievable. Rose Bowl. The first time he was ever in the Rose Bowl, had to be. Yeah. With,
Starting point is 00:59:48 in color TV era, certainly. And you know what the worst part of it was? You've seen Silence of the Lambs? Yeah. Okay, Hannibal Lecter, one of the famous things about him is when he was killing people,
Starting point is 00:59:58 his heart rate never got above 80. And so he's like beating a cop. to death, spoiler alert, he's beating a cop to death with his club, he's beating his head against the prison doors, and all the while he just has this look on his face like he's watching a TV show. Boring TV show too. That was Kurt Signetti. Kurt Signetti sitting there, finger gun in Pat McAfee thinking to himself, you have no idea what
Starting point is 01:00:21 I'm about to do to these kids. They finish the Rose Bowl, they fly back to Indiana. I've already forgot the city you've corrected me on. Bloomington. Bloomington. He lets his coaching staff go home and he stays at the office for six more hours, 68 more hours just to watch film and start breaking down Oregon because he's got transfer portal recruits coming in. Ends up signing half a doesy, including Nick Marsh. Whoever he wanted, basically.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Whoever he wanted. They, here's what. They're the frontrunner for real. Here's, no, they assigned, they assigned Hoover. They got Hoover. Yeah, they got Hoover. Yeah. TCU, correct? Yes. Fernando Mendoza ran the most RPO's in all of college football this year. Second place, Hoover. Most RPO's. He's getting his guy. He got his guy. This is what Danny Lennie has on his shoulders this weekend.
Starting point is 01:01:08 It's not the Oregon Ducks. It's not the Northwest. It's not his wife. It's if you let Indiana win this game and the transfer portal that we live in, we will now be living in a world where kids will give up some money to go to Indiana to be coached by Kurtzign. I think they already are. Hey, that's on Dan. That's 100% on Dan.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Dan loses this game. Hey, I got one more thing for you too. I got a text landing. I got one more thing for you. Now, let me ask you this. You hear some of the haters, believe it or not, not everyone loves Dan Lanning. Some people say about him, what is he won?
Starting point is 01:01:48 What does he want? You know, because to some people, if you haven't won a national title, you haven't won anything. I think he's in the James Franklin spot last year. Because they were saying that about James Franklin. James Franklin doesn't win the Big Ten title, but still goes to the playoff, right?
Starting point is 01:02:01 Hosts a playoff game. just like Landing did. They beat SMU at home, Oregon beat JMU at home. Then Penn State goes and they beat Boise in the Fiesta Bowl. Well, Oregon goes and they beat Texas Tech in the Orange Bowl. But still, you're not going to get credit for it. Because to the public, oh, those were games you were supposed to win. It's Penn State.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Go beat Notre Dame. Well, you can't. Drew Aller throws an interception, season over. And the haters were still, even after you won two playoff games, saying at the end of the day, what has James Franklin won? Mark my words. If Oregon loses this game, the haters will still say about Dan Lannning, what has he won? So throw that on his shoulders as well. Danny Franklin. That's what they'll say. Did you text him that? No, I texted. I said, Big Nettie owns you. Thumbs up. Thumbs up. I'll send him a follow-up and say
Starting point is 01:02:56 none of us believe in you. Thumbs up to both. It's thumbs up. Yeah. That's heartbreaking. I was really hoping one of you would go Oregon. Do you actually say that? Yeah. I was really hoping one of you would go Oregon. Because I feel extra bad now that we're all three of us are Indiana. It's going to hurt. Listen.
Starting point is 01:03:16 It's going to hurt. It's going to hurt. Pull the bandaid off. Pull the trigger. Get it done. You can't not recognize what this Indiana team is done. Most balanced football team, which feels like a like a cop out on talking about how much respect that this team has on the ground with Mendoza. the secondary the way that they play I mean they are they are that squad they're
Starting point is 01:03:41 elite and all the boring things in football yeah and that's what makes them excellent yeah they don't make mistakes a lot of best a lot of vets on their team yeah they're so sound and their techniques they're always in the right spots when they're breaking their routes their office line is always on the same page windows always knows where he's going even in the first first series of the game. Like you see the lead-up to the Rose Bowl and they're breaking down games of Fernando Mendoza played and he like shows a couple of plays from that game goes to Fernando Mendoza sitting in a collar shirt talking to the person whoever it was breaking down the stuff
Starting point is 01:04:15 and he goes, yeah, I'll be honest, I was really nervous and then we all just settled down and we knew we had each other's back classic Fernando Mendoza verbage. Cinema. Cinema. And they showed it two or three times, two or three games they talked about and two or three times he said similar things about being nervous calming down. Alabama starts, they get two sacks in the first series on the first two dropback passes. And it's like, yeah, they were probably a little nervous and they settled down.
Starting point is 01:04:39 And Fernando Mendoza, that computer of his, they just ripped it. Yeah, only team who's one with a buy. Teams with a buy are what, it was one in seven, yeah? Yeah. Which is nuts. Nuts. Well, fellas.
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