Bussin' With The Boys - Josh Pate Picks Conference Championship Games, Talks CFP Rankings With Will Compton & Taylor Lewan

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

Welcome back to The Locker Room with Josh Pate, Will Compton, & Taylor Lewan! This week, we dive into the exciting matchups of North Texas VS. Tulane, Duke VS. Virginia, BYU VS. Texas Tech, Georgia VS. Alabama, and Indiana VS. Ohio State. New episodes every Wednesday at 6:00 PM CT.    Timestamps: 0:00 Open 4:00 Josh Hits 500k Subscribers 6:00 Playoff Bracket 38:33 North Texas VS. Tulane 43:36 Duke VS. Virginia  45:46 BYU VS. Texas Tech 54:33 Alabama VS. Georgia 1:06:27 Indiana VS. Ohio State See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ladies gentlemen, welcome to a very special episode with the locker room. As always, my name is Taylor Luan. I'm a part of the show. The future commissioner of college football, Josh Pate, he was here. He had a massive milestone on his YouTube account. We'll get into that during the show. And then finally, the one, the only Willie Bobton, Wilcompton, he's with us. C&B conference championship weekend.

It is a beautiful time to be alive. The college football playoff bracket. It's all over the place. There's about three teams that are sitting on the outside looking in. We're thinking to ourselves, do they need to be in, not out, Maybe these teams, why are we doing G5s? I don't know. But championship weekend, this is what we're going to go over.

North Texas, Tulane. Biggest storyline coming out of that. Both teams do not have their head coach. Duke, Virginia. Everyone and their mother who loves chaos is focused on Duke. BYU versus Texas Tech. We saw this a couple weeks ago. It'll probably be the same result.

But you'll find out as Josh free breaks it down, Alabama versus George, the SEC championship. A lot of people wondering why does it matter with the new playoff bracket? We're going to get into that. A lot of juicy, good information. and a special thing happened during that game. Just stay tuned for that. Indiana, Ohio State, one and two for the Big Ten Championship.

It's a beautiful time to be alive. Let's look at the records from last week. Myself, three and two. Josh Pate, three and two. Will Compton, four and one on the day. He's making himself a little jump as we're closer closer to the end of the season. Right now I'm seeing at 500. The boys are sitting just below that rapid fire results this week.

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To celebrate our boys, to show, like, get interviews of guys where you usually have the helmet on. and you're not really getting to tell your story. People don't really get to know you like that unless it's in the locker room with the camera in your face and the microphone where you're not going to give bits of information. You're not showing a whole lot of personality

because you have the veil of football in front of your face. You allow the player and the people we have on the bus to kind of control their story and find ways to celebrate them and their success. We have somebody very close to us who had a massive milestone. Last night, live, in front of the world. And it was Josh Pate with the goal

of getting the 500K subscribers. He hit it live last night during his show and we have found a way to celebrate the boy. Bring out the balloons. Bring out the balloons. Look at that. That is special, man. That kind of says 500K.

That's amazing. Dude. Possibly the nicest thing anyone's ever done for me. The I do balloon is hilarious. And is this lead-based paint anchoring the balloons? Has to be. We know you're an old-school guy, paint. That's why we did lead-based paint.

There's a couple of zeros in there. The 500-K. There we go. Because that's just 50, which you still respect it, but 500 a little bit better. Hey, who's stood to thunk it? Whoop's to thunk it? Very quickly, I was told to pass along the message that the ring, the I do, is you accepting the role of commissioner of college football.

So that's official now. It's official. We have the power on this show. We have the power on the show. You have the power on the show. You have the power on the show. We, because we are your right-hand men, right-and-man, also have the power on this show. That's what the foxhole is all about.

You come in, you go, you do as you please. But as long as you're in at the right time, you're the guy. I tell you what, it's starting to seep in there a little bit more, Coach McGuire. Headed to the Big 12 championship game, but what's on his mind? Future Commissioner of College football. Hey, did you text him about that? Like, how did he just randomly was in a press conference. He was like, let me just shout out Josh Payton.

Yeah, like his SID hit me up and said, Joey just said this, which to me means you guys are just sitting around, you know, between practice out there He said that. It wasn't until an hour later, one of my buddies said, hey, cool shout out in McGuire's press conference. And I said, say, what now? And then I go and watch, and I'm just clapping in my car at the YMCA. I just took the caffeine water. Elbows are getting a little itchy, adrenaline's flowing. And yeah, so first coach, but probably not the last coach. Like now it's, you don't want to be first, but you don't want to be third. So like who's going to be second to publicly use their platform to do the responsible thing? Yeah. And the big thing is, is they're

probably going to win the big 12 championship. So now you have the big 12 championship winner claiming Josh Pate is the commissioner of college football. Now we need just two more dominoes to fall. Big Ten at SEC. That's it. We get those that you done. Just completely dismiss the ACC. Yeah, not even there. At this point, I mean, based on this college football bracket, right? Are we all kind of dismissing the ACC? I am. This year. This year. You denounce the ACC for 2025 season. I don't denounce. I think the only resume that's worth talking about is Miami's. But even then, Is it worth talking about? Because my whole thing last night.

Did you watch his show last night? I watched part of it. But my daughter, she was on a swing. She hit the back of her head. It's a whole story. Wow. The one clan's not having a good time on half of November. Because he's on his platform saying Miami has to be in over Notre Dame.

Over Notre Dame. Now there are photos of him. Oh, yeah. Notre Dame beat, or sorry, Miami beat Notre Dame. So yes, I agree with you. Careful. It's not that. It's not as simple. I'm speaking sarcastically. Of course you're right. Because you know, you

play the game on the field and you're thinking to yourself, hey man, if the resumes are like remotely comparable and we've played, shouldn't I get the edge? And then the Notre Dame calculator heads come in and like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, there's so much more you need to know. And you would sit there and listen to all that. It would take like an hour. And then you would go, well, that just made my head spin. But still, they played on the same field, right? Yes. And August. Obviously, obviously they're comparable. they're ranked right next to each other, right? They would just sit there with their mouth open,

and you would say, okay, Miami over Notre Dame. Really people overthink the room on this stuff because they have too much time to sit around and think. It really doesn't have to be that complicated. It can be if we didn't play, but if you and I played, and then our resumes look similar, like what a disservice to head-to-head results to try and speak over them?

Like one of the big talking points, I get it. If I were a Notre Dame fan, I'd be fighting to get my team in. I understand that. One of the talking points has been, well, yeah, head-to-head does matter. It is a data point, but it's not the only data point.

The committee needs to look at everything. They are, but the data points don't have to be weighted equally. Like if I got a head-to-head result and I beat you on the field, and then everything else is kind of shades of gray, the most common sense viewpoint in the world, like my sister could walk in and say, okay, well, let's just put the head-to-head winner over the head-to-head loser. It really is that simple.

Yeah. That's why she wins the March Madness bracket every year. She doesn't overthink the room. And in this case, you don't have to overthink the room on this. You've got a result on the field, and you should honor it. Well, the way it started is, what is it, Notre Dame comes out at eight, Miami's at 18. Like, I'm with you. When Notre Dame started O and two, you look at the rest of their schedule.

And the majority of college football fans is like Notre Dame's out. There's no way. We all know that they're probably going to sneak in somehow, but there's no way. They start off O and 2 against Miami, who was ranked 8 at the time, and then you lose the Texas hanging out. And we talked about it. Who's in it again, collectively four points of these two. teams. And you're sitting there. And you look at Miami and you are fired up for Miami because they were a top three team at one point. And all Miami has to do is handle their simple

ACC schedule. And could lose a game. Yes, and could lose one game. But they lost two games. Like if you look at Miami. Is it SMU and Louisville? Yes. Yeah. It's like you go look at Miami. Like just go handle your ACC schedule, which is the worst powerful conference this year. They played against when they played a cross-conference against big 12 teams ACC went one in six first big 12 teams like by far and away the ACC is the worst conference this year of the power for and all you got to do is go handle your ACC schedule not including a schedule that doesn't include Virginia

nor Duke who's both in the ACC championship Georgia Tech who was like a front runner in the ACC until they kind of pissed on their leg there at the end but those three teams were on their schedule it was SMU Pitt and Louisville and they lost to SMU and Louisville And their overtime, which one came first? Was it? It was Louisville first.

And then they lost to Louisville. And they lose right there at the end of October or right at the beginning of November to SMU and OT after losing to a very average Louisville team in the ACC to where when you lost the first one, you went from three ranking down to 10. Not that bad of a drop. But then when you lose to SMU, who was six and three at the time in the ACC, who lost a Baylor, who had lost a TCU, who had had had had some cross. over against other conferences, you lose the SMU, and then you drop to, what was it, like 18, 20, like Notre Dame, after they lost their first two weeks, they dropped all the way to 24. And it's not like they were making leap frogs bounds up to the top 10. Like incrementally, they climbed throughout the rest of the season because they skunked everybody that they were playing. A heavier

ACC schedule. I believe there was a stat as well. Notre Dame was the first team in the modern era to start 0 and 2 and still being the top 25. Is that a correct stat? Possibly. I wouldn't know that. I think so. I think they started O.E. Yeah, I believe they dropped all the way to 24. Yeah, 24. But again, you look at Miami, who is a good football team. I wanted, like, when Miami started off the way they did, it's like, it would be great. Miami makes this run.

But when they get in these moments and Miami becomes Miami and Carson Beck becomes Carson Beck, they lost two games in a very average ACC schedule that they should have easily been able to handle. And they hurt their self doing that to where then when the college football playoff rankings open up on day one, and you could say that's where it sucked. it was kind of tough for Miami to get in the conversation. But Miami started at 18 when the CFP rankings came out after, again, their second loss to SMU. So coming off a loss, they get ranked at 18.

Notre Dame gets ranked in the top 10. So you're incrementally putting them closer together to where now they can be side by side, but you kind of, the whole system gets messed up. If you're sitting there and it's like, you just make a decision, hey, we're going to put Miami in over Notre Dame. Like, I agree Miami has this head-to-head win. But the head-to-head win, the only playoff caliber team Miami has faced is Notre Dame. And it came at the very end of August against a freshman quarterback who had his first career start at home on your home turf in Miami and you beat him by three. It came down to the last three minutes of the game.

So the way Notre Dame's played, the progress that they made, the way that they've been beaten every team by double digits. Carr has clearly gotten better. Offensive lines gotten better. Defense has been much better and opportunity to stretch their back half a ball. And Jeremiah Love, since that third week, he's looked like this Heisman winner or this Heisman candidate that we all, you know, you bet it on to be the Heisman guy before the season. But he is clearly debatably, arguably the best player in college football. And they have momentum with Marcus Freeman, a coach who, again, they lost in Northern Illinois last year early. But where did they end up at the end of the year?

The national championship. So we're sitting here looking at the college football playoffs and who would have the best chance to go get a national title. It's kind of hard for me to say, yeah, my. Miami should very easily, without a doubt, no debate should be in over Notre Dame. Versus because of what Miami did to themselves during the season in an ACC schedule, and the ACC sucks this year. Yeah, my retort to that is I would pick Notre Dame to beat Miami today. I was just so, so like no one needs to convince me they think Notre Dame is a better team. Favorite by five and a half.

Yeah, like I'm telling you, this is a guy. I'm a guy who believes Miami should be over Notre Dame and I'm going to grant you several points. The ACC sucks this year. Check. It's inexcusable. Miami lost those two games. No excuse for it. Check. I think Notre Dame's a better team than Miami. Check. All right. So the first two points, those are already baked in, to my opinion.

They were already baked in even going into this weekend or this last night when the rankings were released. You knew the ACC, not you, the committee knew the ACC suck. The committee knew that Miami had two losses. All that's already baked into the pie going into last night. And they're ranked within one spot of each other, right? Okay. So that's the current state of affairs. Then the other part of it is, all right, the eyeball test, which I think has carried the day for Notre Dame so far. Like I truly believe what's happened is they have gotten those people in that room. And there are enough people who just flat out say what all three of us just said.

We kind of just think Notre Dame is the better team to where that's carried the day. That's seesawed heavier than the head-to-head result has seesawed. The difference in me, I think, in a lot of people on that committee is I don't care about the eyeball test. That includes my eyeball test. We've done this show every week this year, right? Have any of us gone close to perfect? Yeah. And we even had a-

You came close to a perfect week last week, but even you went four-in-one, right? Which means no one's football acumen, no one's predictive nature is flawless. So if you could ever screw up judging a game predictably, why would I value your eyeball test or my eyeball test when we've got critical data and metrics that we predefined that are on a piece of paper? Now, you're right that they can't play this weekend. Neither of those teams can play this weekend. So, look, none of this is logic.

We're applying logic to an illogical situation already because that's just the nature of the college football football. Right. We wish the structure of the playoff is better. But I understand someone driving around right now or someone just hanging out and they're watching the show and they're thinking, all right, even having set all that word salad, if both of these teams are ranked where they are, neither of them play this weekend, how could one ever jump the other one? And the answer is it shouldn't happen. The answer, part B, is Miami should have already been ahead of Notre Dame in my opinion. But part C is, I think it can still happen because of the ACC Doomsday scenario that we have telegraphed on this show for like a month. We've been talking about this as a possibility.

But we're here now. Seven and five Duke could win the ACC Saturday. I hope so. And if they do, they're not going to the playoff because they won't be one of the five highest ranked conference champs. So you'll have the SEC's champ, the Big Ten's champ, the Big 12th champ. You'll get two G5s in there. And then it'll just be up to seven more spots for at-large teams. And I believe if Brigham Young loses that Big 12 championship game,

I think they would remove themselves from being the last remaining team between Notre Dame and Miami. And I think that would just put Notre Dame and Miami head to head on selection Sunday. And the committee would have to look at that if Duke wins the ACC championship game. The committee would have to look at that and say, well, we either put Miami in, or we don't put an ACC team in. And I don't really care, like, you're right, the ACC's hot garbage. It's terrible this year.

This system was not built to lock out power four conferences. It was not built to exclude an entire power conference at the expense of having multiple G5 teams in. Just not the way it was built. It's an ATM, and it's built to spit money a certain way. It's unpopular to say, but that's the reality of it. I think that committee could take another hard look at Notre Dame Miami, given light of that new situation,

and at the 11th hour jump Miami, and if you think that's impossible, Hunter Eurocheck has largely been a train wreck, the playoff committee chair, when he explains this stuff. But one thing Reese Davis pinned him down on last night is could idle teams move? Could there be movement between idle teams the final conference championship weekend?

And he said, yes, they could move. He refused to say that the rankings for teams that aren't playing this weekend are fixed. So they moved Bama up ahead of Notre Dame last night. So Notre Dame got one spot closer to Miami. If Brigham Young loses and they're nearly a two-touchdown underdog, if they lose, that's the last remaining team between Notre Dame and Miami, at which point on Selection Sunday, those two will be right next to each other.

And you're telling me that the head-to-head result with teams that comparable is not going to push Miami over the finish line. I believe it would. It could. I mean, how much is like money and ratings and all that going to play the play. You don't think so. You don't think so. You don't think any of the money matters.

That's a bridge too. Here's a brand like Notre Dame out of the, keep it a brand like Notre Dame out of the playoff. When they started at eight, like their system. Yeah. Their system, Notre Dame started at eight. They've been in the playoff the whole time. Right.

And you're going to say the way that they've been beating everybody handedly, that they're slowly just going to trickle out and then they're just going to be out of the college football playoff. Remember this. This past weekend, it's not like nothing happened this past weekend. Okay. Notre Dame's demolition of Pitt a few weeks ago, that was a really big talking point. Like that really boosted Notre Dame's resume. Remember that's a rank versus ranks.

Oh, you didn't care about that game though. Yeah, dude, game. Game days up there. Like, that's, that's all well and good. And you go beat them, I think 37 to 15 or something like that. All right. So the committee really said, man, that's great for Notre Dame, which it was. Miami just went and beat the same pit team in the same building by Moore. I didn't even hear anyone mention it last night. It's almost like it didn't even happen. So I'm not saying that should be. I mean, Miami has the day that they were up. Like, it's like, I want to say they were up, and they're still throwing the ball deep in the... Dude, did you watch Notre Dame Stanford? Trying to get this point. At this point in the season, you need to make that point. No doubt.

In the Miami, like, sitting where they're sitting at. Yeah, Notre Dame did the same thing against Stanford. They should. You got to run it up. It's not disrespectful to the game. It's respecting the system or acknowledging the system. I just think it would be bizarre. It would.

It would. It would. The way that they've mopped everybody throughout the rest of the year. since these rankings come out weekly, that they've just crept out. And now they're out of the college world. Yeah, to be inexcusable to try and explain it, because there will be no explanation. And your sin was you probably had Miami too low to begin with. Like, bumping them down to 15 would be okay.

Because you could still make the argument if Notre Dame's 8 in Miami's 15 on that Tuesday night, you could say the head-to-head doesn't matter yet because they're not close enough. They're not in the same comparative pool. We haven't had the chance to apply the head-to-head. And then when Miami creeps up closer, finally, like the light clicks on, and you're in the same comparative pool and the head-to-head matters and that's when Miami jumps Notre Dame.

They didn't do that. So if my theory is correct, they're going to have to do it after both of their seasons have already been completed for over a week. And then imagine trying to explain that. I know. And too, it's like across the college football

landscape, fans, players, coaches, everybody. When is the best time to lose? Early in the year? Yeah. And Notre Dame, they get collectively four points to a good A&M team, a good Miami team. They have a one-time-25 win. And they've done nothing but take care of business since then.

Whereas, like, I'm rooting for Miami, but you lose those two games in the ACC, bro. And then I'm wanting to watch both teams, like, in the college football playoff. I want to believe in the talent in Christopal, which, by the way, you know, Pate's had Chris St ball. Like, he's tied in. He's tied in. Yeah, he's got the numbers you need to have to be tied into the Christopher. Yeah, I don't see a photo with Freeman post-games where they're kind of talking shop a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it's like, I just think of Coach Freeman, like, it's like, Carson Beck, Carlson Beck, like him in the big moment on the big stage. Do we really think Miami's going to do some damage based on what we've seen? Based on his season, in the biggest moment, the biggest stage, he actually did answer that question. It's when they went behind the closed doors and they had to play the shitty ACC schedule. They're like, I'm just the bed a couple times. Because the biggest game they played was Notre Dame at the beginning of the year and ever had the questions of Carson Beck. Was it a Carson Beck problem?

Or was George the problem Carson Beck? And Carson Beck came out there. and lit up Notre Dame. He became the Heisman favorite for a little while. Yeah, and then those defense events, they ate on C.J. Carr at the end of it. Those four picks against Louisville. Well, hey, so you want to play the game at the committee plays?

That's, that will, that's in a different room. That's the lights are off. That's like. That's practice field. Right, that's practice. Yeah, that's not stadium. We're talking about the lights are on. It is week zero, week one,

and we're all so excited. Look at this match if we have, this resurgence of a rivalry between Miami and Notre Dame and these two guys coming out of it. A freshman and Carson Beck, who's trying to resurrect this career out like last year was a heisman i think he was a frontrunner last year right yeah yeah he comes into miami and dices up in the under dame while everybody's watching and then nobody's watching

and he fucks up it's like does that really matter that much so you put him back on the big stage and we've already had him on the big stage is he's not just going to do it again because i'm i'm willing to say i think if we sat here we went notre dame miami if notre dame can or so Miami can find their way to get up in a game those two those defensive ends eat that off its line yet again Because that's not just, hey, the offense line's gotten better. Look how much better. Look at the talent they've played against. Yeah.

And then it's like, you're going to sleep if you're the left tackle and right tackle. And you're dreaming about those guys. You're like, oh, shit, I got to see them again. I thought they were a thing in the past. I thought I never had to touch them again. Now of a sudden you're going to see them on a neutral field where the same shit is going to happen. Can I also say one thing? All right, the Louisville SMU losses.

I don't have to try and defend that to make Miami's case. Like, I think I can bake those losses into the pie and still make the pie presentable enough. People talk about all unranked losses like they're the same thing. Like you could lose to Akron, who's number 130, or lose to Louisville, who's number 28. People just talk about them like they're the same losses. They're not the same losses. Like Louisville and SMU are not elite teams. They're not terrible teams.

They're just okay teams. So when you lose to them, it ought to- The best G5-Fiance. Yeah, like it ought to have the impact on your resume that losing to an okay team would have. Both of them. It's not, we lost to like ungodly, terrible teams. We were four touchdown favorites or anything like that. And the other thing is what I'm about to say, I don't believe should matter, but the committee uses it all the time

so I could weaponize their logic against them. You want to start talking about specific injuries and what teams were at one point. Well, Isaac Brown, who's the best player in Louisville's team, tailback, was still healthy when they played Miami. Then he got hurt and they fell off down the stretch, which makes their record look worse. They're ranked when Miami played them. And they were probably a ranked caliber team when Miami played them. Again, I don't believe in this logic. I'm just saying since the committee disingenuously uses this kind of logic, I feel free to use it. So you're saying that the committee used the logic of when these teams played, they were ranked therefore? Here's what the committee does. The committee does not actually decide the rankings,

a computer does. The committee then slaps their name on it, and they go on TV and like reverse engineer logic to excuse a way or explain rankings that they themselves are not responsible for. And the reason I know that to be true is because we're in coaching season right now. So we're in coaching search mode and Florida and Auburn and LSU and Ole Miss, Penn State, like they've all been wrapped up in this stuff. You can go on Twitter every 10 minutes and hit refresh and get new leaked information about coaching searches, right? And you just sit there and wonder like, wow, so much of this information comes out.

And these athletic directors, they're involved in that process and all the information leaks. Yet you're putting athletic directors in a room to decide the rankings and no information about the process ever leaks. Do you ever wonder how that's strange, how information from something that should be way more highly classified does leak, like a coaching search, but when it comes to 12 or 13 of you in a room where you're allegedly hot, like hot-headedly debating the rankings, dude on TV last night said, man, the Notre Dame Alabama debate was intense. The fourth down. Oh, dude, it was so intense. Why don't, why don't those details ever come out? No details ever come out. It's because they're lying to you. And a computer spits that stuff out. And then they just kind of

slapped their name on the side of it. And then they have to go on TV and try and explain the rankings process, but they didn't really take part in it. That's how you get this garbage like, well, you know, Alabama, they were up 17 to nothing at one point versus Auburn. Yeah, but they were also tied at one point versus Auburn later in the game. Yeah, they ran the ball okay. Plus it's a rivalry game. Boy, that coordinator really made a ballsy call on fourth down. These are not data points. This is just minutia. This is stuff you see. say, it's like when your mom just was too tired to take you to the park when you were growing up and she said, mommy's got a lot of stuff to do tonight. She didn't have anything to do. She just

didn't want to take you to the park. She could have just told you we're not going to the park because I don't feel like it. The committee could just say, these are the rankings because we say these are the rankings. But instead, it's so much stuff that doesn't matter, that shouldn't matter. It's so incongruent logically. You could take whatever he said last night about Alabama. And I could twist that frame of logic to excuse away anything. I could put Texas at number seven somehow, some way, using the bent logic that Hunter Eurecheck and not just him, but like all of the committee chairs, have used in the past.

So to say I have a little bit of an issue with the process would be accurate. Yeah. I think if Miami gets in, just the more of a case where the power of the future college football commissioner would be alive and well, Miami all of a sudden gets in after he releases his clip and stance on Miami getting in over Notre Dame. Hey, I'm not a Notre Dame to join a conference guy. I don't care what they do. I agree. I'd fine with them either way. However, this is one of the first times they may have to pay a price for not being in a conference.

If they were in a conference title game Saturday, we're probably in. Because I think Alabama's in regardless because they're playing in a conference title game. Notre Dame would probably be in regardless. Miami would probably have to sit at home because you'd be sitting here talking about Notre Dame earning the right to play in the game. You get that extra data point, like win a conference and you're in, of course. But I think even losing a conference title game, especially a big one, like the big one, like the big. Big Ten or the SEC, that earns you a little bit of a bump in the committee's mind. Yeah, I think last year when the, or whenever the 12-team playoff came out, it was like, hey, this five-and-six slot, that's kind of Notre Dame's forever.

Right. Because they get to live in this independent world. But one thing you brought up with the committee and using old games when teams were ranked, so like a team played a team that was ranked at that time. Now they're no longer ranked. That's a reason why this team should be bumped up higher. If that is logic that the committee is using, why isn't Vanderbilt in then? because they don't apply it evenly.

But that, yeah, because the logic that the committee would have just said, then Vanderbilt has four top 25 wins and one top 10 win. And they're 10 and two. That's because they selectively apply it. Yeah. And so I'm looking at the thing last night. I understand the Miami-Nitur-Dame argument. That's not near as interesting to me.

It's like, why is Vanderbilt sitting behind Texas? And everybody's answer is, well, Texas beat Vanderbilt, but Texas is nine and three. Right. Vanderbilt is 10 and two in a conference that you've said is the most stacked middle pack conference of all time or at this point. Yeah, I do think the SEC has the most depth. They have the most depth. They've gone through the SEC. They've won the SEC. They've beat Missouri when Missouri was ranked in college game day was there. They beat South

Carolina when they're 11th in the entire country. At that time, it was going off of the skill players they had coming back and the run they had last year. And so at that point, I think we all viewed South Carolina as a possible contender in the SEC. So why is Vanderbilt being hurt and put it 14 when I think they should be in. And I think it's not in so much of the Miami and Notre Dame argument. It's more of like that's where this G5 thing, I keep coming back to it. And I'm like, these guys. Yeah, no matter what, I'd love to see all these teams just be in a playoff so you can watch a play.

Because you put Vanderbilt against the Tulane of the North Texas or all these other G5 teams. It's like, put them in their conference. Just put Vandy in their leagues. Yeah. You don't have to have them head to head. For all that, for all I care, put Vandy in the ACC. Like, Vandy's run in the ACC right. Now, and they're a top four lock.

Yeah. Top four, they're undefeated 11. Probably do the same thing in the Big 12, to be honest. This year, probably it's them and Texas Tech in the Big 12 by a fairly good margin. Yeah. I mean, yeah, Texas Tech to me is just there's Texas Tech and then there's a big gap and everybody else. The hard part is when you're sitting there arguing like Texas, Vandy, Texas did beat Vandy. Vandy was coming back, but that could have easily been a blowout by Texas.

They also lost to Alabama. The logic of it could have been a blowout like. we're not we're sitting there and Texas goes out as this big lead everyone's like vandy cannot come from behind they're not built that way the first quarter there's tweets going out saying this game is over that was fun it was cool to it was exciting to talk about vandy for a little bit vandy comes back and at one point we're sitting there watching an onside kick for them to kind of recover but yo they might actually fucking do this judge the football game for the four quarters that it is right you just the test the entire game because you can't just

say hey they went out to this massively and it wasn't Alabama up 17 yeah that's how dumb it is to say, well, they were up 17. Texas did the same thing against Mississippi State coming back from a date. Exactly. Yeah, and then Texas, they were on the wire with Kentucky and Mississippi State. Like you're saying, it's like, well, if that's a factor, then we should put that in also. If with the depth of the SEC conference, because I do think it is the deepest conference this year, now at the end of the year, you look at Vanderbilt's resume.

They beat one, one top half SEC team, only one team in the top eight. And it was Missou, with Zollers, a third string quarterback. Everybody else, when they had their shot against Bama and Texas, they lost. So if you're sitting there looking at all the SEC teams, because how many are in there right now? Four? Is it four? Is it four?

Olema, Oklahoma. Yeah, four. Four. Alabama, yeah. So you got four teams in there. Couldn't that same logic be said about A&M? Yeah, but A&M has one loss. So when we're sitting there picking the game last week and you're kind of looking at who A&M's face,

all of their wins have been against bottom half teams. are fine playing a top half team in the SEC, but A&M was undefeated. Now it's like you have the entire resume of Vanderbilt, and if you're putting it against Miami, Notre Dame, and then Texas is in the conversation, if you just look at Vanderbilt as a whole as a 10-and-2 team, because I think it sucks, a 10-and-2 SEC team. It's going to be on the outside.

They're going to get screwed. They're not going to get into the college football playoff. But if you do look at their resume as a whole, they beat one top-half SEC team, and it was Missouri, and it was Zollars as a third string. See, you're never going to sell me on the fact that going to Neeland Stadium and beating Tennessee last week, week is not a top half SEC win. That is a, that's a big time one. Tennessee, they ended up in the

bottom half. That's just, Will and I are arguing the same points a different way. The same way you were saying you could you can misconstrue everything the guy said to put Texas at seven. You're saying look at their, look at their wins. They only had one top 25 win and it was Missouri ball, or one top 10 win. No, not not yeah, yeah. But if I'm looking at the schedule of where do we sit in week one where we had South Carolina, Missouri, all these other. teams were sitting in top 15 or above top 20 and above and they played those teams when they're ranked in that position because at the time the whole world viewed them as that way i i personally think there needs to be more weight put on that like you look at a south carolina win now no disrespect

jp but it doesn't hold a whole lot of weight back then when it when it when they played it was a massive this is like the organ penn state thing yeah it was 11 south carolina versus vanderbilt their first true test are they really going to get it done are they were really contenders in the SEC they won that game and everyone's like holy shit vanderbilt man look at them now south californa had the things that happened to them injuries happened throughout the season the running back from louisville but i look at how did everything start how did everybody kind of view these teams from a top 25 standpoint and when they played when they played did they have a number next to their name if they did that counts for something extremely holistically i'm i've always been a huge

proponent of what you're saying of defining the value of a game and a win or loss at the time it happens Absolutely, because if injury, go ahead. But also, how can I, how do I not know that the Vandy result started the precipitous decline of South Carolina season? Like, I can't prove that, but you can't prove it didn't happen. So I may be, like, I'm being punished. My strength of schedule could be getting punished because I beat teams, just like Oregon. Oregon goes and beats Penn State. Penn State falls off a cliff.

Well, Penn State's not falling off a cliff if the Oregon loss doesn't happen. They still have a top 25 roster. Yes. It's evidenced of how they played against Indiana. But Oregon's getting punished because of what they did to Penn State. So, like, with exceptions, I'm always going to say there are exceptions to this rule. With a few exceptions, I've always been a fan of defining that. And that does mean that you may play South Carolina in week four, and I may play them in week 11,

and we both beat them by the same score, but you get more credit for it than I do. That may mean that. I think that's okay. It could mean that. Right, because things happen, things take place. That's what makes football so amazing. The thing that starts in week one is never the same in week 14. That's what makes it awesome.

I think we solved everything. I don't think we solved shit. We're just talking in circles. Talking in circles and I know we're going to get to this game the last thing. It's going to be nuts. We get the 2G5 scenario in. I kind of hope it happens now. A couple of 17 plus points.

Just so we can all be mad. Yeah. At the end of the day, we're just angry that these teams were arguing about, arguing for like just handle your business. Right. When you're expected to handle your business. Because if this happens, we have the G5 teams in and the option for us, to fly, even with Josh, and go to Oregon versus some G5 team just to watch Oregon mop them.

I'm going to be sitting in our room being like, guys, we got to go to Oregon to watch this bloodbath. Get with the Atlantic and have a little good time and just sip some wine. Probably in the second half. Yeah. Probably leave, yeah, at halftime. That was great, great playoff game. You're really trending right now towards having two first round games.

Really, if you think about it, look at all the projections. You've got, you got, like, Notre Dame, Texas A&M. You got Oklahoma-Bama, and then you've got two games where the spread will be close to three touchdowns, which is insane. Yeah, SMU Penn State from last year. With teams at home. Last thing before we get into this border, then we'll go quickly. But Penn State coaching search. Are we still, am I still waiting on a call?

Hey, and congrats to BYU. I know. It's weird. Keeping their boy there. Sure. I mean, that's big for BYU. It is big. Keeping their guy in there.

Just from my understanding of the timeline and everything else, shout out Liam Bluntman. I was following him very closely. Yeah, dude, he seemed like he had a little, dialed in a little bit. It seemed like it was right there. They were at the goal line with getting him to Penn State, and then BYU gets their boy, they pushed the team eating, they're all at his house, they're all talking into it. Money's coming elsewhere from these companies.

What is it, crumble? Yes, crumble cookies. Crumble cookies. Crumble cookies, crumbled. For P. For BYU. Like, big dogs coming in the room with the blessing of the church. Coming in the room, throwing out massive contracts.

He throws up with the blessing of the church. Yeah, with the blessing of the church. He went, crumbled cookies, went more American. Prime Evil on Penn State. Yeah. Then American Prime Evil itself. Then literal Brigham Young did. If you watch American Prime Evil and then you look at Crumble cookies, you're going to be like... That's like the modern day version.

Yeah. Exactly. They're scalped. They scalped Penn State. Spoiler alert, but yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have any clue what's going on with Penn State? They don't. How could I? They don't. I've spoken my piece on Matt Campbell. Apparently, they're not targeting him. But then again, they don't know who they are targeting. It was Brian Hartline at one point in time.

But which, by the way, that would have been the move. That would have been. He's a UCF now. It's a real dereliction of duty, I think, by the athletic director up there. I don't know if he's going to have his job much longer. And you guys have never heard me call for someone's job because I don't really do that. But I don't know how. Like, this is a really, it's not an elite job.

It's not Michigan. It's not Ohio State. It's not Oregon. But, dude, this is still the Penn State job. You can't convince me that this thing's been turned down this much just because the job's not good. It's because of who's running the coaching search. And if you can't run a successful football coaching search, number one, you don't deserve your job as an AD. Number two, don't fire your playoff caliber coach before you have a pretty good idea of who you could go get to replace him.

So to answer your question, yeah, keep your phone close. The call could come. You've got experience in the Big Ten? I do. You know several coaches? You know several coaches. I would hang up on them immediately. I know a way I'll be in a nitty line. Oh, so you're out.

I'm out. No amount of money. And that story hasn't been told publicly. Yep. Breaking news. I have declined the Penn State job. I haven't heard anything from my sources of what's going on or if. my source even has a job anymore.

Yeah, hey, the low key though, Mitch, fuck your source. Right? Hey, is everything good up north? Everything good in Michigan. I really don't know. At this point, me saying anything would just be feeding into Twitter sphere.

There you go. There's allegations. There's allegedly, a lot of allegedly being thrown around in the Michigan world right now. It's more exciting to look at and just, if you just separate, if I separate myself from being,

an alumni, someone that played there, and I can just sit back and kind of wash the chaos in the shoes that you kind of do, that's where I find more enjoyment. If I go, I'm like, this does not seem, it seems more scary than anything else. Yeah. It's scary world. We'll see. We are also brought to you by Form Energy. Form Energy delivers best in class tastes with natural flavors and zero sugar. Form Energy has natural caffeine derived from green tea and comes in a variety of flavors like Scream and Freedom, Grape, Smash, Blue, Blitz, Orange Fury, and it's perfect for those who put in the work. If there's somebody who wakes up early in the morning, gets a workout in, full days worth of work, and then come back home and still give it your all. You are a

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Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,

and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris.

Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on class. Jenchian went. I mean, she went down to three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck.

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on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We'll see what happens. Shall we? Yeah, let's dive in. Let's dive in. North Texas, Tulane. Big time matchup, winners going to the college football playoffs.

Oh. Tulane, underdogs. North Texas, favored by two and a half. The over under on this game, 66.5 points. Both coaches are gone. Both coaches are gone, by the way. I mean, they're leaving. They're coaching the game.

Both coaches have taken new jobs. Good. So who's bought in more? I'll tell you what, when I went after the G5 thing, I had two text messages about it from people that went to G5 schools. Cody January and Sean January. Both went to high school with them. They went to North Texas. January.

January. The January brothers. By the way, Sean, January back in the day, that 2006 state championship team from Catch Shadows, over 100 tackles, middle linebacker. Just a salty white boy. Paper bones, though, could never stay healthy. Anyway, they text me and they're like, how could you come at our team like that? And I said, hey, brother, this is just the reality. So for that reason, I'll be taking North Texas

It just seems like they got more heart I got more hate from them So I'll take them Because to be honest I don't give a shit about this game I will not turn this game on I'll check on it I will

I probably won't even type in my safari bar North Texas First Tulane to see the score pop up I'll find out on the show next week I'll find out on the show on Sunday when I see Selection Sunday and I'll be like Oh, shit.

Oh, they won. North Texas won. Oh, shit. Tulane won. That is how my life in this game is going to go. 66. Take the over? Yeah, fuck it.

Dude, I'll take the over. These guys got bad defenses? That's the strategy. That's the strategy. 66 and a half? Yeah, I'll take the whispers. I got whispers over here. Take the over.

Give me the over. And that's the kind of stuff you're getting on the show, the hard hitting facts. I don't fucking care about this game at all. So it doesn't leave us. I know I know Clump was excited about this. When he posted the games, he's like, we finally get to talk about Drew Mesta maker. Drew Mestamaker.

Better than Zolars. Yeah, better than Zolars. You know Will didn't care too much. He was looking at his phone about it. 3,800 yards, 29 touchdowns, four interceptions. Never started a game at quarterback in high school. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember that dude.

He was not a starting quarterback on his high school football team. And now he is one of. And now he's a freshman starting quarterback for North Texas. He's a redshirt freshman, yes. That's amazing. I think he played in their bowl game last year. I think is how that worked. Because Kublick had the game.

That's G5, baby. Yeah, I remember this. That's G5, baby. What did you say? I didn't listen to anything. I saw Drew Tech from Darylovsky and I. So Drew Mestemaker didn't play quarterback at all in high school. He was a backup.

And now he's a starting quarterback, a redshirt. freshman he's a freshman for north texas and so i'm saying that's g5 baby he's been slinging the rock i'm saying good for him that's pretty crazy he didn't play quarterback in high school didn't play quarterback he wasn't the starting quarterback shows up to north texas and they're like hey wretched for a year we don't this is chad powers we don't got a quarterback we need a guy and he's just like i can throw it a little bit like you he is chad powers this guy is chad powers all this is telling me is i could have played quarterback at a group of power five or group of five school you know your problem is Mitch you're talking to him you matured too late wow I feel it no no and that's not even like if you

missed the money when if you were you now at like 17 18 buddy you're G5 yeah you're G5 and you're mad at me watching the locker room like this motherfucker don't respect us and you're right yeah you're right in this figurative imaginative thought process you are correct give me the over give me the over I won't go to Safari to type in the search bar. I'll just click on the ESPN app and just see what scores are for the games. Oh, and if I even see too late, I'll go, ah, on the USB. That's what I do too.

Safari. I have the ESPN app too. Top 25. Oh, I just go to Florida. Alabama, Georgia. Oh, shit. Just like, oh, hang on, 2025. Yeah.

That's happened so many times to me. Dude, me and technology, huh? Break this one down for us, brother. Don't break it down. I really did pull in this morning. I'd rather spend more time talking about the Penn State coaching service. Yeah, we're good. So this is going to be really quick.

Time me, 20 seconds. I pulled in this morning and thought to myself, both coaches are on the way out. I think that disproportionately impacts defensive staffs, and therefore I don't think there's a total high enough where I wouldn't take the over. And I did not know that you guys were going with the over, but I will take the over with you.

So it's an over train. I have a live show Friday night in the middle of this game. There's zero chance. I can watch it either. So I'll just have time on things. If you didn't have a lot, you would watch it. Yeah. I'd check it.

Yeah, yeah, you check it out. So that went over. Therefore, the total goes over. There we go. Yeah. Also, speaking of driving into places, thoughts and prayers with Kathleen, onward. Duke, Virginia, Virginia favored in this game by three and a half points. There's Duke again.

Just keeping the line close like they have all year long. The overrunner on this game, 57 and a half, the ACC championship. Which we've already talked about that. Power four. Power, not powerful. It was a Power three. and they're kind of puttering in the distance. Power two and a half, yeah.

You know this game happened. This game was a blowout already. Like a few weeks ago, Virginia played Duke. Virginia was, Virginia lost the turnover battle and still blew them out. The fact that this number is what it is blows my mind. Then I pull up the model the other day, and the model has Duke winning the game outright. The model lost chaos. Like, I don't get it.

The model is chaos. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. But I'm taking Duke to win the game. So the ACC Doomsday scenario, not only is it me sort of wishcasting, the model backs me up on this. He has Duke winning outright. Is it three and a half? Yes, three and a half. Yeah, I'm taking Money Line. I'm taking Duke. Give me the points.

Take me the money line. I'm taking Duke. Take two plus points. But I will take Duke to win the game outright as well. I have. I'll do Money Line. Give me Duke Money Line. On this show, I've brought up Duke on two separate occasions. They were favored against Illinois and one other time. as my, I took Illinois as my dog in Georgia Tech.

I was right both of those times, betting against Duke. This is my first time betting forward, Duke. I'm thinking Duke plus the points. I'll be sprinkling that money line up. But for the sake of the show, my standings and me being scared, I'll just take Duke plus three and a half. Hey, hard hitting shit on those first two games, boys, huh? Hard to beat a team twice.

Hard to beat a team twice. Make a little ultra, right? Superior's what we're playing for. We've been doing this Rock River Suisse thing. It started to be, it started to be fun. Now it's getting serious. What's the record right now? Mitch or Clump?

Is it... 8 and 7. I'm leading 8 to 7. So this is an opportunity for me to get up to or will the even a salad. Are you prepared? Yeah. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.

Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Superior is worth playing for. A good game. Yeah, good game. Yep. Hoo! Back to the episode. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers,

and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? New news. We created our own podcast. called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.

We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay.

Genshin win. I mean, she went down at three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open.

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We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Next game, American Prime Evil, BYU kept their coach versus Texas Tech who want Josh Pate to be the commissioner of college football. Texas Tech favored by 112, according to my sheet. Do you guys have the same thing? What? Oh, it probably means 12.

And a half. No, no way. It's 12 and a half. I think they're favored by 112, according to the sheet. So Texas Tech favored by 12. Total points on that minus 112. Oof. Oof.

12 and a half. Yeah, 12 and a half. BYU's got the plus one. Got you. And then the total points in that game is 49. A half. American Prime Evil, it always comes back to that. This team has been on our show more than I think any of us expected.

We are a BYU show. We have become a BYU show. you show. And I'm not going as far as Crumble Cookie. Yeah, we grossly mischaracterize everything about the program, everything about the culture, everything about the church. But, you know, we are. We are the way you show. The blessing of the church. Nasty work on that. And I'm going to continue to do it. Joy McGuire, that high flying offense, that incredible defense, what is it, Rodriguez, the linebacker? Jacob Rodriguez. Jacob Rodriguez. Through pick last week. Ah, probably why is that the Heisman race. Yeah. I'm going to take the, I'll take them,

minus 12 and a half, this is going to be a three touchdown blowout win. This is putting, this is the before, like when I was at Michigan, the first couple of years with Rich Rodriguez, every Friday night we do our team meetings. We have our meal. We have clam chatter that had this historic, like famous clam chatter that all the players would come back to get. You can only get it when you're a player at the campus in. Then after that, we would sit and watch a movie. It'd be gladiator Friday night lights those types of things. Before this game, Texas Tech is playing the entire series of American Prime Evil, and they win this game by 28 points. Or they're terrified and no, they don't even show up.

Two options. I'm going to take the one where they bow up. Fight a flight. BYU, you got a better shot this time we're on. Could we see some more chaos? Model loves Brigham Young. I have no idea why. I have no idea why. Where's the model at on BYU? It has Texas Tech winning by eight.

Like it thinks it's a huge cover probability edge for Brigham Young. This is one that you look at and you're like, oh, I bet this game. I wouldn't. I don't agree with the model. that means I just don't bet it. Okay. A swing like that, that's like ramen noodle express. Yeah, it would be.

How do you flip? So Brigham Young's got to flip something that happened the first time around. They had 60 rushing yards total, first time around. They were minus three turnovers. Brigham Young's got to run the ball. They got to win turnover battle. That's how they've done it all year. I do think they're playing their best ball.

Like, I really, really respect what they did to Utah, but what they did to Cincinnati was more impressive. What they did to TCU at home, to me was more impressive. And they just got incredible news. They sure did. Reaction from their coach of state? So you got to ride that revenge wave. You got to ride our coach's staying wave.

Boys, we win, we're in. You can't. So these are the paper poppers. Texas Tech in the first half. Their top three points per game first half, top two pass yards per game first half, number one in explosive passes in the first half. They did that against them last time too. But the thing about it is, for everyone who tries to find a way for Brigham Young to win this game,

like, oh, man, if they just even up the turnover battle, Texas Tech settled for five field goals. this thing too. Three of them were inside the red zone. So I look at 29 to seven the first time around. I was at that game, just not a close game, not really a competitive game. But I was thinking to myself leaving, this actually could have been so much worse. So for every progression to the mean that you expect from Brigham Young, there's also still a little catapult opportunity for Texas Tech to play their best ball. They didn't even play their best ball that day. I have, I don't, I don't know what the model seen. So I'm going to take Texas Tech. I'll actually lay the points.

with the blessing of the church I'm going to go be why you Wow really? Yes He hasn't seen American Prime Neville No he hasn't No I haven't in the queue I haven't seen Animal House either

That by the way Tomato It was a serious problem For the whole entire thing It has become a very serious issue Yeah yeah we did a thing Are we allowed to say what it was Fando we did a we shot a Fando commercial

They're updating the commercial with Fando We got to do some fun stuff yesterday In the shop Production set up everything in here It always comes back to Right and we were doing a bit And we'll have to wear a shirt that's a college football, right?

Or playoff football, something like that. And it was a scene from Bluto, an animal house of him trying to charge up the boys to take down the school after they get expelled. And the director is trying to explain to him, and I got to stop the director. I'm like, hey, Will, do you know what he's trying to reference right now? And he just has the same look he has in his face right here.

But his mouth was just a little bit more. He goes, yeah? You know what that shirt represents? And I was like, big state. And I go, God. Guys, he hasn't seen Animal House. The whole production crew stops in their tracks, mouths wide open. The director goes and types in YouTube the scene so Will can watch it.

To get some sort of inspiration to understand kind of what we're doing. He produces a commercial. He goes, have you looked at the script at all? I was like, no. He's like, all right, this shouldn't be too bad. And then they explain the whole, like the blue-dlo animal, the scene of everything. And I'm kind of just staying there. Yeah.

Was it over when the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor at that scene right there? And I kind of just looked and go, yeah, yeah, I got you. That's good. There goes, the joke about that is X, Y, and Z. Yeah, yeah, the joke of it. Yeah, Japan Bumperor Harbor was the joke. And I'm kind of just standing there. Oh, yeah.

So this ain't Penn State? Yeah, so we had to sit there through a six-minute YouTube video of all of us kind of just waiting and looking at our phones awkwardly while Will watches a YouTube video for him to get the premise of what this commercial is going to be. And then, hey, you fucking killed. You killed it after that, dude. I thought you were phenomenal. You see, yeah, he had to be Pluto.

And that was a lot of dialogue for him. Can I be honest? Go ahead. I have absolutely no clue what we were talking about. Are you? Have you seen it? Have you seen it? I have no idea where we were before that came up.

I've seen it. With the blessing of the church, I'm going to BYU plus 12 and a half. The house is in Eugene. I got a thing. Yeah. It's in Eugene. Tell them about that. That's what I'm saying.

It always comes back to Animal House. We're out there at Oregon. And Taylor's like, oh, this is the place. This is where we're shot. He's like, Will, do you know what we're talking about? I was like, no. It's like Animal House. Yeah.

They're like, oh, this scene was here. Will, do you know what I'm talking about? No. No. Animal. I made, Will, me, JP, and Garrett, we had maybe the best walk of all time, huh? Like, guiding around those trees? That was incredible.

We're going to this walk. Will meets up with us. And I essentially make all of us walk to this area where a scene was shot an animal house on the steps. And I go, hey, boys, look at it. Garrett's in awe. He's obviously the movie. J.P.'s in awe. We're just like, this is awesome.

And I'm like, Will, you get it? He's like, no. We meet somebody? It's like taking someone with the grand can and then just being like, oh, it's a hole. And you're like, all right, it's supposed to be beautiful. Is this the business school? Right. Yeah.

And then obviously the fraternity. But no clue where we were before that. Yeah, no idea how we got there either. What's the chaos that, like, that would happen if BYU were to win this game? Oh, don't say that. It'd be bad. This is Notre Dame's worst nightmare. Both, like pretty much everybody in the bubble area.

Like, I know we talked about Miami Notre Dame earlier today. But even if Miami doesn't jump Notre Dame, we are sitting like, less than 24 hours removed from the committee bumping Alabama up above Notre Dame. To me, that signifies Bama's not dropping no matter what happens Saturday, nor should they. So Notre Dame's sitting there at number 10. If Brigham Young loses like they're, you know, allegedly supposed to do, and Miami doesn't jump Notre Dame, like Notre Dame's good, they're in. But if Brigham Young wins, they're not taking Texas Tech out.

So two G5s and two big 12s would be in at that point. Well, the two G5s is contingent on the ACC Doomsday. Don't concern yourself with the G5. The point is, if Brigham Young wins this thing, you got to find spots that you didn't think you needed to find, and then you look at who's number 10 right now, because that's the cut line. And it's Notre Dame, and they probably drop out. Like this thing comes down to, in that scenario, Brigham Young, Notre Dame. It's not Brigham Young, Alabama.

It never was going to be. It's Brigham Young Notre Dame. I have enough respect for the Big 12 this year that I wouldn't see it as we got 2G5 and 2 Big 12. You would see it as 2G5 Texas Tech and a Big 12 is probably what you would see. Yeah. That's what I would see. Yeah. Texas Tech's like an independent.

They've worse in there. Again, the ACC, it just, they got a. They got to cut the cord, man. Wow. So you just don't want them to exist. This year. No, no, no, no. Not don't exist.

But again, it's like this conference. And you compare them against who you would relate them to is the Big 12. Again, Big 12 is 6 and 1 against the ACC this year. So ACC's closer to the G5 than they are the Big 12. In my... You're not wrong about that. In my humble level. You're not wrong about that.

No. And we all know about my respect level for the G5. And I agree with you on the ACC comment. So they're not far off. Yeah. And my respect meter, if that means anything to the Atlantic Coast Conference. Next game. Number three, Georgia versus number nine, Alabama.

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We're token. Yeah, look, we teased it. If we have to edit out, we'll edit out. But the boys, we get to cover an alt-cast for the SEC championship this weekend on ESPN. ESPN 2. ESPN 2. ESPN 2. Yes, P-N-2.

Yep, it'll be us three. Harry Douglas, teammate of ours. Were you on the team with Harry Douglas? I was not on the team. Nope, he got his ass cut before then. But, hey, hell of a teammate, hell of a lot of energy. Guys, incredible. Yeah, just a wild stray.

Wasn't he with you? Were you guys doing three years? I like to think Harry and I have the relationship. Okay. He's going to see this motherfucker. You know, he's going to laugh and giggle about that and have something for me during that. He played like nine or ten years. Oh, dude, he was a dog.

I played Atlanta for a very long time. Came over. Terry Robiski was in Atlanta. He became the OC for the Tennessee Titans and he's like, I need my guy, Harry Douglas and Harry Douglas and our call earlier. During offensive staff meetings and players, Harry Douglas and Terry Robiskey would just be in the kitchen, who's our OC and our wide receiver. They'd just be watching get up or, yeah, like, good morning football and like joking about

something. And they go, we got it, we got it. Yeah. Can I ask a question? Go ahead. Because this is really big news that you just dropped. This is massive news. You're telling me that while the main broadcast is going on on ABC, we're going to have our own alt-cast broadcast where the four of us are on the field at the SEC championship game, calling the action between Georgia and Alabama, two teams that have won 10 out of the last 11 SEC championships, playoff spots on the line, SEC title on the line, first round by on the line, and us with mics in our hands?

On the sideline? That's happening. See the action? Getting to feel the vibe. Breaking down ball, seeing what's going on the sidelines, injuries, fights, arguments, the whole thing we get to talk about it all. And some play by play from our boy Josh Pate, the future commissioner of college football. Oh, here we go.

Is this it? Mike Foster L1. How are you? Tell them we're live. Hey, we are shooting the locker room right now. I have a mic on. We can cut it. But I'm with Will Compton and Josh Pate.

And we just announced that we're doing the simulcast on ESPN2. Is that okay? Okay. Yeah. No, we're good. We can definitely say those things. We're good to go. We've gotten permission and we haven't had to ask for forgiveness.

So that's fantastic. All right, Foss. I'll talk to you later. Appreciate you. Bye. All right. All right. Yeah.

We're doing the thing. Who are we doing it with? Yeah. ESPN 2. It'll be me, Wilkhampton, Josh Payne, Harry Douglas. Will didn't play with him because Harry got cut. Hey, that is huge. It's massive.

It's a big deal. I mean, boys, the fact that we get to be on the field, the SEC championship, that big of a game like us, where it was kind of going, fan of college football. Hey, hey, who's the hater, not fun on Twitter or not? RIP. Yeah, yeah. The cat we had to. to delete, he's going to be punching air. Do you think he'll know?

Think he's watching. Oh, bro. Do you think the guy who had delete his own Twitter because of what you two did to him, he's going to find out or he's just giving up all football? I think it's really safe to say he's tuning into Chris Fowler and Kirk Herb Street. Yeah. I think it's really safe to say he's checking out the ABC feed.

I see him with basic cable, and I see him thumbing through old school with a clicker. And then it pops ESPN 2 and it's your face. And it's both of you, like cut screen, three pieces and the game's going in the middle and you two are talking and he just sees it for a moment and his heart rate goes to 120 just as quickly as you can't. He's Jesse

breaking bad. He can't keep getting away with this. He screams at the air. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hate it for him. Love it for us though. Yeah, love it for the audience. You want to tune in and watch us cover a game, the SEC championship from a different perspective. Our very first time doing it. Who knows how it's going to go? I'm sure it'll be a little bumpy at times. No doubt.

But this crew will figure it out. Right. Well, my phone won't brace it. Josh Payte, call on the game. Going to be great. Yeah, are we going to wear some? We're trying to figure out what the wardrobe's going to be. I asked that question in the production call. They're like, you can wear whatever you want. Because, you know, my move's going to be probably the same jeans I'm wearing right now

in a black t-shirt if we don't decide anything. But if we want to go, Wranglers with some sort of SEC get up in a cowboy hat, which I know you hate hats. Yeah. Well, the other thing to think about is. I'm trying to picture. It would be awesome. The other thing to think about it.

I like to fix your hand with a flannel t-shirt too, button down to hear. You can picture me however you want. I will. I do in a lot of ways. This is an indoors game. Like we're indoors right now. It is early December. It is cold.

You wear the T-shirt. You got to... Yeah. And buddy, is it not freezing in here? I got a hoodie on. I am so cold. When we started doing the show in week one in late August, it was rough. Yeah.

It was... Right. Exactly. And now we're leaning forward. I know. We should have a little fire next time. Can we build a fire? Why not?

Call Mike. Call Mike. Yeah. See, we can get a fire going. Yeah, but let's pick this SEC championship and see where our bias lies. Oh, yeah, yeah, let's fit the game. Garrett, would you like to speak? Alabama's won what?

Georgia's 1 in 7? Kirby is 1 in 7 against Alabama. 10 of the last 11th C champions were... And will be 11 of the last 12. Because math and both these teams are in it. That's an info. Fair enough. Yeah, another big game for the tide.

Earned our spot here. It's a place we've been before, obviously, as you guys just said. Um, my biggest thing with this weekend is that you guys are going to watch the tide in the SEC and I'm not. So that hurts. But I'm going to find my own way there. So I will see you guys there. Roll time.

So Garrett just took an opportunity to get on the mic to kind of be like, you guys aren't taking me. Yeah, that's exactly what that was. Call my car. Do we, do we take Garrett? I think we got to see what we can do. We got to at least give them a ride down. make that effort. Give them a ride down there for sure. We talked about it yesterday. I thought that was a no-brainer. We got to have confirmation. No doubt. And I'm bad about that. Is Bama going to be able

to pull off two in a row here on Georgia? It might be watching Bama, they've had a, they went through a big time schedule, they've earned their right to be here. They're going to stay in the college world playoff unless in some world it's like 55 to 7 and they just get blown out. And then you kind of have to consider, hey, does Bama fall out of the playoff after that? ass beating. I see them getting into the playoff about 99% of the time, but they've kind of like limped their way to this finish line, the way they've been winning their games, but they haven't been winning in a fashion to where you kind of see Ty Simpson. It hasn't been this. It's been high and tight, but again, the story with Ty Simpson is you're just barely missing on those deep balls.

Is that going to continue? Are they going to beat Georgia for a second time in a row? Georgia team that's been playing spicy as of late that's been putting the foot on the gas and looking like a team that can be, in my opinion, and the team that would compete with Ohio State for a national championship, does Bama beat them twice? It's going to be hard to beat Georgia twice. So progression, regression to the mean,

in a rematch, matters a lot. Bama 13 of 19 on third down. First time they played in Athens. Georgia was like two of eight. Both of those teams are top 30 on third down, just in general. Bama, huge edge that day. These are two huge, like, premier coaching staffs.

Bama, pretty huge edge that day. Georgia's pass rush did not get to Ty Simpson the entire night. Zero sacks. And not only, that didn't really even affect him all that much. Havoc rate been spiking for Georgia these last few weeks. Is that there Saturday? The two biggest game-breaking opportunities, one for both teams, is the wide receiver group. For Alabama, it's Jeremy Bernard.

It's Isaiah Horton. It's 17. Lotzier Brooks has come on as of late. Ryan Williams has been a ghost and can't really get a straight answer about where he's been. The deep ball thing is huge. Like they barely miss them. If they hit them, that fundamentally changes things for Alabama. They let Auburn break two huge explosive yards after catch plays on them last week.

Zachariah Branch is more explosive than any player Auburn has. So that's where it could break for Georgia. I also remember Bama's secondary sort of throttling down Georgia a little bit. Georgia ran it for over 200. And I expect him to have a fair amount of success running the ball again. But Georgia's center is probably out for this game. Both teams badly banged up. But Georgia's center being out.

How does it affect snaps? How does it affect run fits? Flow in the run game. Collapse in the pocket. Tim Keenan was injured and just coming back for this Georgia game the first time around? Playing like a stud now. And so not only is he like a two-gapper type, but he can also really collapse the pocket,

gives him a decent interior pass rush against a redshirt freshman center. The injury situation is probably going to matter as much in this game as any championship game we see Saturday. I am fundamentally of the opinion that it's extremely hard to beat a team twice in the same year, especially when that team is staffed and personeled like Georgia's. The model likes Georgia, I have literally no lean in the game.

So just because of the computer, I'll lean Georgia. It's two and a half, right? Is it still two and a half? All right, I'll lay those points. No confidence in that pick, no. It's going to be a great game. Over under 47 and a half. Again, we're going to be covering this game.

I was having the same thought when he was breaking it down. I was like, do we even pick a team? Do we want to do the Herb Street? Do we want to stay completely biased in this entire thing? Over 47 and a half. It's like when these two teams play. Unbiased. When these two teams play, I expect a physical football game for whatever reason.

When these two uniforms are out there, it's going to be the SEC championship. I think it's going to be two physical teams going at it. I like the over in this game. If I had to pick and see how this game is going to unfold, I picture the state of Georgia, everybody at home, just barking at the TV, because Georgia is going to pull off a win. I say the Georgia thing, too. I'm going to take the under, do it the over.

Over. I'm going to take the over as well. I'd like to see excitement. Everyone loves rooting for points in these games who wants the exciting, high flying. I see Alabama through the air, maybe making a couple of those connections that you're talking about that haven't happened as of recent. Georgia, in the other hand, I see them running the ball very effectively, especially going to go to Stockton, having an extra blocker in there, getting that done. Redshirt freshman center is a bit of alarming, but I like Georgia getting themselves in third manageable.

Overall, I see a lot of points having this game. I'm going to go to the over as well. All right. Great breakdown, boys. And it's gonna be fun. You think that was a great breakdown. Just wait till Saturday. Just wait until Saturday.

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That's because of true classic, look good, feel good, play good. Kurt Signetti versus Ryan Day. Indiana, Ohio State. Ohio State favored in this game by four and a half points. The over-under on this game is 47.5. I feel like four and a half is light. It's very light. It's extremely impressive that on a neutral field,

anyone can be within five points, just point spread wise, of Ohio State. But especially, especially a non-traditional, non-top-ten recruiting type team, like Indiana. Like that's such a monumental statement before the game kicks off. Ryan Day, best friend of yours now, shines in these moments. But so does Kurt Signetti. We saw him go on the road to Oregon earlier this year. Like that game changed things in my mind. It was last year, Signetti and Indiana went to Ohio State.

they got blown out, and they went in the playoff, and they got beat by Notre Dame. And it kind of fulfilled a lot of the preconceived ideas that they're mainly a product of an inferior schedule, whatever. This year, they look way different to me. I think they're a legitimate top five team. But you don't have to wonder. They went to Oregon and owned Oregon, and then they've shined the rest of the way. So if they can control somewhat the explosivity of Ohio State's offense, they got a shot to win the game.

They do have to have a little bit more balance. It'll easily be the most balanced offense, like the most toolboxy kind of offense, that Ohio State seems so far this year. Now, they mean Ohio State's incapable of stopping them. It just means it's a different test for Ohio State. But so much can go right for them. They can control tempo. They can be converting third downs.

They can be tilting field position in their favor. If you're just hitting Jeremiah Smith for 80, if you're hitting Cornell Tate for 68, it doesn't matter. Because those explosives, you could win time. of possession two to one you're going to run twice as many plays as Ohio State it doesn't matter it just means they're scoring quick so you got to control that to have a shot it's a real big test of wills game because both of them have looked pretty unstoppable it's the beauty of conference championship Saturday i just ride with Ohio State in these kind of moments until further notice as as we documented last saturday morning very late in the morning yeah we're gonna bring that up

yeah i got to ride with Ohio State and lay the points i'm taking ohio state minus four and after I just, dude, I think this defense is so good. And even if, oh, right, even Indiana being able to move the ball, they'll be able to. I'm excited to watch Fernando Mendoza because he's kind of in a Heisman spotlight right here. Like right now, I feel like Diego Pavia, in my opinion, is the front runner, the guy who should be the Heisman winner this year. But Fernando Mendoza is going to be in a huge moment this weekend against the best defense in the country in Ohio State. I'm excited to see if they'll be able to turn three into seven because I just believe in Ohio State's defense so much. They're savvy, Patricia.

He's got all those guys, all these aliens playing with a higher IQ. They're very situationally aware. They're one of the best in the red zone at keeping teams out of the end zone. I just, I think Ohio State has too much. I think they'll be able to score. They'll be able to get seven compared to Indiana, who will be able to move the ball at times, but I think they'll have to settle for three a lot.

So I'm taking Ohio State minus four and a half. Not a lot of mobility in Fernando Mendoza's game. Has to win it with his arm. He threw for 215 against Oregon, 233 against Iowa. I'm of the opinion he has to do better than that to beat Ohio State? Are you in agreement with that? Yes. And if he does, he probably wins the Hysman. If he's thrown for, what, 300 and gets, what, two touchdown zero interceptions, I think that

would be, I think that would be enough. I know who my Hizman winner is. And he's out of the playoffs. Justice Haines. Yep. Yeah. Absolutely. Oh, really? No, Diego Papp. Oh, I was like, that's my husband. Listen, the thing, Matt Patricia is the biggest game changer that Ohio State's had. Obviously, the de coordinator goes to Penn State, bad, bad move by him. Brian Hartland, he gets elevated as the O.C. But the thing that makes Matt Patricia so difficult, he obviously has a lot of talent on the field. Every game, he has a rolodex of different defenses and different coverages that he can give you, that it's going to take Indiana a quarter, two quarters to really figure out they're doing.

And then by that time, it's halftime adjustments. So the thing you might have figured out, now Matt Patricia comes out in the second half with a completely different look and disguise of what's going on. So he has the ability to keep an offense in a blender for all. all four quarters. I had to lose a friend this weekend. I had to watch my team who's won four in a four in a row get brutally demolished and a completely uncompetitive game. I had to watch a kid that we spent $10 million getting throw the ball five times in the first half. Would have been a different game if we made you through a little more? I don't know. I'm not here to say, but that defense is pretty impressive. Julian's saying he's throwing routes on air

and it's not his fault. He's got the two best wide receivers. And now, of course, well, maybe Jeremiah Smith is the best player in all of college football. I spent all last year after Michigan had the biggest upset in Columbus winning 13 to 10. I spent every single game of the playoff saying this is when Ohio State falls. They're not going to get it. And they just went on a tear. And at this point, ma'am, they're 16 and 0 since the last time they play Michigan and Columbus. I'll take Ohio State minus four and a half.

And not to mention, you got to see them in a little bit of adversity for a minute against Michigan. Julian St. coming out that first series, throwing a pick, throwing a bad pick, and then bouncing back. Ohio State spent more time down in the Michigan-Ohio State game

than they did the entire football season. Which is just insane. I think they spent one minute being down the entire year before that Michigan video game. Michigan drives the field, does really good running the ball, kicks three. We get an interception on the first throw at the game.

Ryan, they said it in our show, I'm thinking it. We're about to do this shit again, holding for three. it's, you know, after that, it's over. Yeah. And again, just talking more about Coach Patricia. We played against Matt Patricia defense,

where we've been sitting in there with Rayble. We sat in there with any time you're listening to a coach speak from an offensive perspective going against a Matt Patricia defense. It's always they take away your best weapon. Like your best tools, that's what they focus on defensively. Because to your point, Mendoza, and not being very mobile in the pocket, front seven's always going to think we have to stop the run in every game that happens.

Right. So when you're able to dial things in on third down and play with that level of IQ that Coach Patricia is going to have that defense ready for, that to me is where they're able to squeeze Indiana. A lot of those conversations do they take place when you're playing against Matt Patricia when he hears what the Patriots is, if you're in an offensive meeting, they're sitting going, hey, this is kind of every defense that they've run this year. Based on our skill set, this is what we think we're going to have to run.

But we won't know until the game starts of what they're coming out. After the first series, we can kind of make adjustments from there. but expect these three or four kind of defensive schemes that Matt Patricia has run in the past to kind of stop our bread and butter is what we're able to do. And that's where you put Indiana in a massive deficit

because they have to wait until after the game starts to figure out what their game plan is. And that's what put it to Ohio State out. Right. Like if somebody's highly targeted on third down, you're going to assume Matt Petruz is going to take this away, so how are we going to win on the other side in this situation? And then there's 4D chess where he,

now he doesn't take that away, and he's messed up your entire game plan. So it's better just kind of await and see moment for them in Indianapolis like hey we got to find out what they're doing and then adjust from there and that takes a lot for Kirksonetti and a staff to kind of decipher and figure out from the get go yeah Ohio State man those sons of bitches good for them is it though dude the only thing that's changed for me is I I truly respect Ryan Day you lost me as a friend and gained Ryan Day no we're not friends you said you love that guy no it was

with sea bass and dumb and dumber, he walks up to your table, you threw the salt shaker at him, and then he called you out, and he hawked on your burger in, you caved. I watched it. That's fucking bullshit, dude. That's a bullshit comment. You saw the clip? No, here's what happened, dude. I said all these crazy things. And Ryan Day, who denied us, Ohio State denied us. What was it Sunday? There's no time for Ryan Day to make it on bustling with the boys. Ryan Day also has issues with Pat McAfee, allegedly. Pat was very vocal about that. Ryan Day in the middle season goes on Pat McAfee's show. Why?

Fucking victory laps. So what did he do when I always take a piss? And Ryan Nolan came up and said, hey, Will, Ryan Day, 20 minutes at 1130. Can you do that? And Will goes, thumbs up. It's like, yeah, he's taking a victory lap. And so what am I going to do? Double down.

Hey, you're still not a leader of men, even though you won a national championship and you just beat Michigan who's beating you four years in a row. I'm going to find something to pull out of the ether. No, dude. I hate Ohio State, but my God, he's proven me wrong in everything I've seen. everything I've said. He was born on third base, but he's elevated his team. He stole home.

He is he walked into Ann Arbor, Michigan, the bakehouse in front of 115,000 people and smiled as he walked down the tunnel and then beat our ass. So what can you say? Other than other than you had a win with humility and lose with humility. Hey, Coach Dei, I said a lot of bad things about you. You shut my ass up. Congratulations. When you guys are on the bus. We're not friends though. Hold on. We're not friends. Yeah. Well, when you guys were on the bus, friend of the show. No, friend of the Joe, I don't have his number. Wow. When you guys are on the bus, you know, the viewers at home don't know that when you're constantly looking up, it's because you're looking at a monitor. They think you were just too

scared to make eye contact with him. Some people were saying that in the comments. You're a comment reader. I did not know that. And I'm glad you made that clear because I'm looking up. And I just, his fucking smirk. Hey, Taylor, I appreciate you saying all those things. And it's just like, you motherfucker. And he's got me. I'm fucking, I'm in the cave. I got my arms chained up and he's just gotten. He's finally got me.

You already got blood flowing down your side. And every James Bond movie he finds a way to get out, I'm defeated. You got my ass. Until next year. He basically said, we're good, man. Throw a rag at you. Clean yourself up. Yeah, clean yourself up.

I just got myself off the bed. Said, thank you, Mr. Day. Dr. Day. Good show. Yeah. Subscribe, please. Yeah, tune in ESPN 2. This Saturday.

Yeah, yeah, that's exciting. We turn back to a positive. Kickoff is at 3 p.m. 4 p.m. Eastern, 3 p.m. Central, yeah. Who knows, man. Come hang out with us. Big, hey, it's huge. Massive.

It's fun, too. Being guys done this before. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's very nervous in the beginning. When's you get into? It's a lot of fun. Four and four.

What's that? Born for it. If we were calling Wimbledon, it would be nervous. This is the SEC championship game. This is, you're our quarterback. This is wheelhouse. I can sit there. A office line's doing pretty good.

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