Bussin' With The Boys - Josh Pate Picks Nebraska To Upset USC w/ Will Compton + Taylor Lewan Rides w/ Vanderbilt Over Texas
Episode Date: October 29, 2025Welcome back to The Locker Room with Josh Pate, Will Compton, & Taylor Lewan! This week, we dive into the exciting matchups of Cincinnati VS. Utah, Georgia VS. Florida, Oklahoma VS. Tennessee, Van...derbilt VS. Texas, and Nebraska VS. USC. New episodes every Wednesday at 6:00 PM CT. Timestamps: 0:00 Open 7:10 Cincinnati VS. Utah 18:43 Georgia VS. Florida 28:56 Oklahoma VS. Tennessee 40:25 Vanderbilt VS. Texas 53:08 Nebraska VS. USC 1:07:00 Dog Of The Week 1:08:55 Bet The Boys Parlay See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Josh Pates here.
Yeah.
I've been told...
Wow, hold on.
Sorry.
You can't start to show flexing like that.
Just the little stretch.
You know why he's flexing too?
Because he's just addressed all these allegations on the Josh Pacea.
And you did a phenomenal job of it.
I've watched it with the clown and everything else.
Like that's going to be, you see the field differently.
And that's what I respect about you.
You understand that even in the future now, this clown knows is forever in that moment
because it will be utilized throughout time, which then you will be able to even have more fun with,
which then it's like bring on the allegations again now i can reset the allegations and talk about
these new ones i respect it when memos said they can't chase you if you don't run so if you just
sit there and like i said brian kelly hang on hand i said they can't chase you if you don't run they
can't chase you if you don't run i'm seeing it as you're running away from trouble i am embracing
trouble because i rubble's going to find me by starting the trouble and then running start the trouble
so then classic kid with fireworks pops it off yeah don't
away.
Just holding a Roman candle like this, then all of a sudden.
Exactly.
Yeah, so I may have probably overshot the runway a little bit on the Brian Kelly,
Notre Dame LSU take a few years ago.
It was 2021.
It was a message board.
Whomst amongst us hasn't gone a little sideways on a message board.
I have.
I know I have.
I've been a little sideways a lot of times.
As a paid freight, as a paid fan, seeing.
the message board post. First of all, I'm smiling, looking at it on my phone, just grinning,
thinking, this psychopath, bro, he was on the, just he had, he had a message board, and he's out
there still in the good news of Brian Kelly coming to LSU. Then they have this take that Josh had,
which he explained we all know about on the show. And I'm just sitting there smiling, being like,
I can't wait for him to take this head on. Buddy, I said, because the people were coming after him.
I'll see this Ohio State meme video or this Ohio State type of,
Troll, I guess. He'll like clip stuff from Page Show every now and then.
And he's always got a lot of traction coming after Pate saying he said this. Do you know which one I'm
talking about? Yeah, he clipped nine minutes of video.
And I hit him up and then my DMs. I said, I don't even mind you doing it. Can you not do like nine minutes of show?
Can you just do like the whole show? Yeah. It's just
just more viewers. It's free. I actually like that guy though. I talk to him every now. Yeah. He's okay with me.
I see him. Yeah. It's one of those, you know how the out your algorithm like stuff you're following with
college football, Pate, like the boys, all that stuff.
So I'll get to see these clips come across to where you're kind of just caught up in the world.
Whatever shit storm, whatever shit storm's brood for old Josh Pate since he is, the future commissioner of college football.
And a bulletproof commissioner of college football.
We hope.
We hope.
Time will tell here.
Right.
Time will tell.
My balls are in Notre Dame's court at this point.
We got to see how it's received.
As we're talking, it's just been 12 hours.
So we've got to see how the community receives it.
So far the feedback's been good.
Okay.
But I did claim that their program was a Prius.
trying to compete the Daytona 500.
I believe those were my exact words.
So Brian Kelly's been trying to win the Daytona 500 in a Prius.
Since then, my thinking has evolved a little bit on Notre Dame football.
Right.
I did sit there and watch and play for a national title last year.
I did watch Brian Kelly implode in on himself like a dying star at LSU.
So yes, my thinking has evolved a little bit.
You self-scouted.
You've got better.
You've understood like, hey, here's where we've got to get better in the offseason.
Yeah, I walked in the bathroom one morning.
I looked in the mirror.
I didn't like the guy looking back at me.
So I made some changes here
and then I put the clown nose on
to confirm those changes. But, you know,
it wasn't easy, but it was necessary.
Yeah, yeah. I'll be
frank with you guys. I put about
18 milligrams of my lip before the show started
and I'm floating a little bit.
Hell yeah, Doug. Welcome.
Where you're at right now, that's my baseline.
Then it comes to nicotine.
Yeah, what have we got there? Come on now.
You're right. Come on now.
It's disrespectful for me to even ask.
Shouldn't have you done that.
That's my bad.
When you wear a costume like this,
sometimes you take on some characteristics of a killer.
The first game we have on the list here
is a game I really don't want to talk about yet.
Because in my opinion, this is
the true classic game of the week.
Are we leading with the main event?
That's what I'm saying.
You want to set the fireworks off right away?
This is Tyson-Hullivan-0-1 p.m.
You want to walk on the park a little bit?
Yeah. Let's start with an easy one.
Do you mind?
Yeah, because can we just talk about the slate?
I know, did Michael Myers do a great job with the slate?
Yeah, okay, okay.
I mean...
Because I sit here, I see the USC Nebraska game.
We don't got to...
That's why I'm going to cut you off.
I just want to...
That's 18 milligrams getting ahead of the show.
But can't be real quick?
This is going to be real quick.
As long as it's actually real quick,
because that clip...
It's going to be quick.
Is that the clip you made?
Mitch...
That clip was hilarious last week.
If you don't know, go look.
So I just want you to know, I was thinking about even that clip
and how, okay, Willie, see, you got to reel it in.
Right.
A little bit for the USC Nebraska.
So give me 10 words.
Can you do it in 10 words?
I'm going to hold my breath during this take.
Let's see if I make it.
I'll do it with you.
No, we're not going to do the game because I have.
I have some stuff.
I have some data.
So we'll save the main event for the main event.
Is that 10 words?
I mean, I didn't count.
Under hit.
Let's talk about the slate in general.
I got two of my favorite teams on this slate.
Yeah.
Let's talking about the first one.
Cincinnati at Utah.
Cincinnati is the number 17 team in the country.
Utah is the 24th team in the country.
Utah being 24, Cincinnati being 17, Utah is favored by eight and a half points.
This is your team, Cincinnati.
I need to understand that 12 points in that game is 55 and a half.
Why does Soresby being doubted?
I don't know.
Everybody talks like, hey, Diego Pavia should be, you know, hey, he should be the Heisman favorite.
He should be the guy with the Heisman.
Mainly Diego.
Mainly Diego.
It's mainly Diego Pavia talk.
What does he got?
15 touchdowns, five interceptions.
He's got about what, 17, 18, 100 yards.
How about Soros?
How about Brendan Sorsby since they've lost to the Huskers out of week one?
That's a win now.
I'm sitting there looking back.
I'm like, this is becoming even more of a quality win for the Huskers if we take care of business and in the season 10 and 2 and we're arguing for a playoff spot.
But let's talk about Brendan Sorsby for a second.
Almost 1,800 yards, 20 touchdowns and zero interceptions since his lone interception game was zero touchdowns against the Husker defense.
This right here is trick or treat.
If you want a king-sized candy bar, it's Cincinnati plus eight and a half.
I don't know why.
Josh Payton will probably break down.
Why?
Because they're going to Utah.
Utah is frisky.
They beat the shit out of, like outside of their, what, double.
Texas Tech and BYU.
Texas Tech and BYU, they've basically mopped everybody.
They have a very good offense.
They even have a backup quarterback here.
Bird Fickland, who we don't know if he's the starter or not or if.
I think Dan Pierre is back.
Dan Pierre, yeah.
I think.
What happened last week?
Because it seemed like he was ready to go.
kind of just says like, hey, I'm going to sit this one out.
You know how those injury reports are.
Yeah, college is way different than the NFL.
You truly have no clue what's going on.
Remember Nutmire, we thought he was hurt before week one.
And we were right.
We were right.
We were right.
Yes.
The three of us collectively nailed that.
Yeah.
We understood.
But this is Cincinnati plus eight and a half.
I know they're going to Utah.
It's going to be a night game.
It's going to be everything says, I'm telling you right now.
This is Cincinnati Bearcats plus eight and a half.
They've taken care of business all year long.
They're very tough.
One of the better offenses in the country.
They're in the top third in basically every category.
This is Brandon Soresby.
He takes care of the football.
Turnovers have to happen.
He's not turning the football over.
Cincinnati's covering this game.
Your boy Willie C.
Might get a little frisking and go money line because I've just believed in the
Bearcats.
Of course, I believe in any team that beats the Huskers.
So I'm going Cincinnati Bearcats plus eight and a half.
Brendan Soresby.
And number two, that D tackle for Cincinnati?
Big boy.
Big boy.
He's good.
I mean, I've watched one full game of Cincinnati.
In person.
In person.
And I'll be honest, I didn't see a whole lot of the boy.
Didn't see a whole lot.
Johnson.
Johnson was out there.
Who was he playing?
I believe it was the Cornhuskers.
The Huskers.
They kept him at bay a little bit, but he will recap it.
He's a hell of a player.
He's going to be, I think, a first round, second round pick.
And a lot of people don't like the nose three technique body types wearing single digit numbers.
Personally, I'm a massive fan of it.
Do your thing, Bob.
Yeah, especially you.
Dante Corleone.
Oh, I don't know he was a mob boss.
Because when I was looking at it, when I...
I don't know he was a mob boss.
When I was trying to remember his name last night,
the last name Carlione is just so badass.
Yeah.
Big boy, too.
Italian dessert had the sound of name.
Cincinnati plus eight and a half.
Can someone check is Cincinnati Central or Eastern time zone?
That's Ohio.
That's Central Time Zone.
That's a Central Time Zone.
It's Eastern.
Eastern.
It's Ohio.
It's Eastern Times zone.
Good call.
Good call.
Because once you hit Notre Dame, it's Eastern.
This is.
I've always remembered it.
I always get a little fucked up.
with the thing and the movement.
Indiana, that part of Indiana over.
Then you set it back and forth.
Onward.
We have a 1015 body clock kickoff for Cincinnati here.
Those kids stay up that late and play football when they were growing up.
I don't know.
Half of them are named for a life after football.
Corleone, that's not a 10-year NFL veteran.
That's a guy who's going to be doing other things in a few years.
Right.
Money laundering.
Sometimes, sometimes.
Your words, not mine.
Sometimes when lines look really, really funny,
I have the first instinct you do.
It's like, are you serious?
They don't even have to win.
They just have to keep it under eight and a half or within eight and a half.
Give me those points.
And then I think to myself, self,
October's over, bud.
We don't, we don't, we don't, there's no grace period.
October's over.
It's called Vember now.
What game are we talking about?
We're talking about Nebraska, Nebraska, USC, right?
We worked on.
You know what, but let's take a pause after that.
Let's just go Utah and Cincinnati.
All right.
Good, good call.
Hey, 10-15 kickoff, local time for Cincinnati.
Yeah.
So anyway, I'm thinking about Dan Pier coming back, I think, a quarterback for Utah.
Good quarterback.
Yeah, he's a really good player.
Probably hasn't hit his ceiling yet this year because he's had, you know, some injury stuff to deal with.
Do you know the model?
Have you met the model?
I've met the model.
I love the model.
There's been a couple glaring the wrong team's favored.
Blips.
Blips.
Just blips.
So that's my reservation on the model.
We talked about Texas Tech.
Is the model the wrong team favored in this game?
No, no, no.
The model actually looks at Fanduel and just nods and smiles.
The model has Utah power rated as the best team in the Big 12, even above Texas Tech.
Is that due to Texas Tech being their third quarterback now?
Possibly.
But Texas Tech's quarterback's coming back this week.
So no, we've got the starter baked into the model.
The model's just looking and saying, hey, don't give up on Utah.
Don't give up on Utah.
So I'm looking at that.
I'm looking at the line.
Line makes no sense to me either.
So my instinct, if I did not have the model by my side, I would be taking Cincinnati.
I think they're going to pop their best game of the year.
I think Utah is going to spike, play their best game of the year here.
And I just worried that Sensi, if they go on the road here, like Utah is really good.
I think they're one of the highest man coverage rate teams in college football.
And so it gives a different look than any defense that Sensi's played so far,
respectively, respectively.
It gives a different look.
I think Utah's going to win the game by double digits.
So I'm going to take Utah to win.
I'll take Utah to cover.
And after that, we come out of it.
Maybe even during the broadcast, someone slips in.
We should have seen this coming.
You know, the model has Utah as the number one team in the Big 12.
I don't know what network.
The only argument I have on the heavy man coverage, which can play in their favor, is Nebraska was the same way.
Well, I want to say, yeah, yeah, Nebraska was the same way in week one.
And also, when you're a lot of man coverage, that's where those dual things.
threat quarterbacks can you know the one thing Sorbsby did do really well against
Nebraska was he was gashing us on the ground but how many points are they
score 17 there's a low scoring game 20 to 17 I can count on you but again zero
touchdowns one interception that game and look the look at the way Sorbsby like
there's no doubting hey he's he's gonna he's gonna come back is he gonna hit his
stride he's dealt with injuries like he's been hitting his stride he's taking care of
football he's now mastering his craft through the air with that run with the
run game with defenders with their back to you chasing around covering you. I'm just
trick or treat. It's all I'm saying. What we do know is no part of you whatsoever is rooting for
Cincinnati to boost your strength of schedule. That's not in play here at all. Zero bias. None
none whatsoever. More of maybe Cincinnati is tough because I hate that we only beat him by
three points. And now it's like, oh yeah, they were tough. They wore that squad. They are that squad.
Taylor. Go ahead, Mike.
this get we've Utah has been on the slate a couple of times yep I think both times I
win against Utah and I'm 50% right now on that to the Texas Tech Utah game you were
saying earlier in the year those are the two teams you have to watch for when it comes to
the big 12 I still hang my hat on ASU and then Utah has what's it called the holy war
yeah versus BYU minus turnovers that one and it just didn't it just didn't work out the way
we needed to we didn't realize the holy war would it was just that obviously I sat there and I
watched Nebraska and Cincinnati and since Cincinnati has gone on an
absolute run. So I did lean in the same way minus or plus eight and a half possibly a money line game
for Cincinnati. You got away with words and the fact that you were talking the way you were,
then all of a sudden you hear your voice way over there and then you stayed right in stride because
you know exactly what you're talking about and you know how you're feeling. I'm not going to look
at the records from last week because I am sitting at the top so I shouldn't trust my opinion
more than anybody else's. I'm going to go with Utah to cover. I'm sitting with you on this one.
It's a big number. It's a big number. Do we know what we're doing? Did you see his take? You know what
weekend it is?
It's Halloween.
Yes.
I think this is the time where you take on the spooky.
You take on the spooky lines.
Halloween at altitude, 10-15 local time kickoff, I'd be scared.
I'd be scared.
Altitude is scary.
Yeah.
Weather is kind of crazy all over the country.
We haven't even looked at the forecast.
We haven't moved to the forecast, but I know in the northeast there's weather because we've got to worry about that.
Weather.
Weather.
It's Salt Lake City.
But yeah.
But also, weather moves.
Does weather not move, Josh?
It does move.
It moves.
It moves west to east.
You should know that you chase tornadoes.
Yeah, I know or not.
I hate that I have to teach you about weather.
But it moves always.
Salt Lake City.
Northeast gets a little crazy.
Well, it is Salt Lake City.
Weather moved.
Yeah, we're talking about it.
Yeah, we're talking about it.
We're talking about movement.
He has a way with words, but also don't forget about it's Brian Kelly Ellis.
You take it a couple years ago.
Hybrid.
As far as I'm concerned, you put the clown nose on, you're all right by me.
You dressed up for Spooktober.
It's all I can ask.
It's like bankruptcy.
It's life's great reset.
You put the clown nose on.
It's like social bankruptcy.
It's a get out of jail free call.
Chapter 11.
Oh, you have debt? Not anymore.
Not anymore.
I'm bankrupt.
I do want to thank the production team for, I believe they saved us in one game.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
Tell me about it.
Because the line moved for Mississippi State.
That's true.
To seven and a half.
It went from six and a half.
We took Texas.
Then it moved to seven and a half right before kickoff.
There was no public, you know, but all I'm saying is we did have Texas to cover.
They did not cover.
But I will take the extra win because in my head, I'm seeing one in four.
Yeah.
So for our per pie, which is the plural of per pie,
purpose, Texas wins, but for the rest of the public, they didn't win?
Because of our timing.
Right.
Yeah.
I think that's fair.
Just goes to show it's never, we are always right.
It's the rest of the world that can be wrong at times.
Yeah, they screw up.
Yeah, they do.
It's almost like we haven't done it, but we have to position ourselves as like the
Ramanuels Express to where, hey, it's same line.
You get this.
This is the line we're going with.
Values different by the time kickoff is.
All I'm saying is I still took Texas to cover.
in loss, so thank you guys for saving the one game.
Raise your hand if you have your own tab on Fandul.
Yeah.
So that gives you all the authority in the world.
We just got to do a better job being the authority.
On our end.
On our end.
Just got to talk louder.
Yeah, we got to talk louder.
Absolutely, unless you're Michael Myers.
We talked about...
So I'm so do, I feel better.
I feel good about that.
You feel better about that?
Yeah.
What about Boston, though?
Yeah.
Look at Boston.
Look up the Northeast.
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While we're doing that, while we're looking up weather in the Northeast, let's talk about the game in the South.
Number five, Georgia, at Florida.
Florida, Jeremy Clump, if you want to get in the mic too, we'll talk to you about Florida in a second because I'm here the biggest Florida fan of all time.
Georgia's favorite minus seven and a half.
Spooky line.
feel a lot better if that's more six and a half right it's a little bit of a comfort zone that's when
the boy gets you but it is spooktober so maybe this time to be on the side number in that game is 50 and a half
points i love to turn it over to clump i love to turn it over to clump for a big florida fan
what do you got for us buddy uh i don't really have much outside of we're still just focused
on the next head coach of florida which will be lane kiffin until i'm told otherwise according to
josh pay ask me about ls u we're going to skip that but who do you think is going to be the lsu head
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Ole Miss. I think Kiffin may stay.
Until Josh Pate tells me that
Lane Kiffin's not the next head coach at Florida, I'm keeping
hope, so. Florida will win this game outright
money line. Okay, all right.
Let's switch over to the biggest Georgia family
now. Jared Beeman.
Teams favored by
seven and a half points. You're traveling to
Florida by week.
After firing Billy Napier.
That's all I needed.
That's all we needed.
I like Kirby for Georgia.
I like Kirby to have the Georgia job.
Games in Jacksonville, last time I went to the game,
I got food poisoning.
I'm done with the game.
I will not go down there for minimum five years.
And people alleged that I got alcohol poisoning,
but I don't drink a drop of alcohol per year
because that is not what this is.
I legit got food poisoning in the stadium.
This was not a hotel night before situation,
in stadium.
Place is evil.
as far as I'm concerned.
Perfect week of the year to play this game down there.
And no one even tossed to me.
I just took it.
So I grabbed the rope here.
I think Florida's tapped out.
Coaching searches in October do a thing mentally.
And players in the NIL era are now worried about where they're going to be playing next year.
I like to think this team's playing for the Gator logo.
And I like to think they're going to be all in.
This was a preseason top 10 team, J.P. poll.
But the J.P.
Poll, like I did in 2021 on an LSU message board, may have whiffed.
I'm not perfect.
I've never claimed to be perfect, just close to it.
And this was my whiff.
So I'm going to take Georgia to win and cover,
and I think they may be about to put the pedal down a little bit.
I think Kirby Smart learned a lot last year from Ryan Day
about what it takes to start peaking in November,
start peaking at the right time.
Granted, you can come back at me and ask,
was Ohio State peaking at the end of November?
They were.
They were not.
However, they got over that hurdle
because they gave themselves some breathing room.
I think Georgia's going to get over.
This hurdle pretty emphatically.
win by double digits too.
I'm so glad you brought up Ohio State and we're not, do you think Ohio State wins the national
championship?
Are you offering them versus the field?
Do you think Ohio State goes on the run they do in the playoffs if that doesn't, game
doesn't happen with Michigan?
I don't think so.
Yeah.
I agree.
I'm also taking Georgia.
I'm also taking Georgia.
I think talent for talent, both teams, this is the most match of Georgia has been from a talent standpoint
on both sides of the field.
defense and offense. There's always the interim head coach, that little spike that usually happens.
I can see in this game, Florida getting up early given Georgia's slow starts. But Gunner Stockton,
I think he has more ways to win. And I think when you play Georgia's offense, you have to be very
disciplined. You can't, you have to set the edge. You have to swarm in the run game. And you have to be
very good in the perimeter because they love to use the perimeter passes and let their receivers,
you know, make moves and get downfield and have explosive plays. When it comes to Florida, I can
can see them doing that for the first 30 minutes of the game.
I don't see them staying disciplined.
I don't see them keeping their eye on the prize for a full 60 minutes.
And that's where I see Georgia pulling away.
Because I do, I think Kirby Smart, he understands that it's not September.
All you're going to do is just win in September.
All you do is just win by in October.
In November, you got to start showing this is who we're ramping up to be when it comes
to the playoffs.
And yeah, it's the dogs.
Georgia usually does that.
Georgia usually does that.
And Georgia has done an amazing job this year about just kind of staying in the
shadows similar to a Michael Myers like just stays in the shadows you don't really know he's there you
might peek over for a second you're like what was that and then all of a sudden he's gone
but sure enough towards the end of the season or the end of the movie he pops he pops back up and
start slaying people and I think they start that this week on November 1st well we don't have to
tell you that Georgia brought you in to talk to old miss via a television screen or before the
old miss game like you were probably equal to if not more so responsible than Kirby smart
himself, a lot of people are saying for getting your job. Just a little motivation. The message boards
are saying. Just to remind them that they are the Georgia Bulldogs. I don't think Florida will be up on
them at any point in this game. Just because if you're going to get up on Georgia and you're going
to start, let's just say start fast. The locker room, everybody's pretty laser focused
on what's coming to town and everything else to where, yeah, I agree with every, like,
everybody's thinking about who the next head coach is going to be. Players are thinking about
where they might go. Players might be hoping, like, I wonder who they are going to
bring in to see if we want to stay here with these guys or with this staff. I think they've been
two up and down this year. There's going to be some sickos out there. I know chefs the sicko about like
it's the swamp. Anything can happen in the swamp. Seven and a half points. Jackson. Oh, yeah,
Jacksonville. My fault. Brain dead. Nicotine. We'll just say the 18 milligrams. Yeah, 18 milligrams.
It is USC week. This is Georgia. Georgia minus seven and a half. I like them in this spot.
Just with everything going on, Napier getting fired. They just don't know what's going to happen there.
The team's not going to be fired up.
They're not going to be ahead at any point in this game.
Georgia minus seven and a half and they start.
They're going to have the SEC.
Are we going to have, here's what I want to ask you, Mr. Pate.
What kind of chaos are we looking at in the SEC, even the Big Ten?
There could be five, six, two lost teams in both conferences by the end of the year.
Let me counter that with a question about the ACC, because the answer to this is going to depend on the ACC.
The ACC inferior conference top to bottom, right?
Yes.
I think most people, they would agree with that.
But yet, we're looking at a situation where for some reason,
none of them actually play each other.
I don't know how it's possible.
It seems like no one in the ACC actually plays an ACC team.
So Virginia, they're rolling right now.
They got one loss.
It's an out-of-conference game to a conference opponent.
Don't even ask me to explain it.
That's just how it happened.
So if they go the rest of the way, they're a one-loss team.
let's just say they went out and they win the conference title.
They're going to be in the playoff by default.
They are not Miami.
Just keep Miami in mind.
What if Georgia Tech runs the table the rest of the way
and they go to Charlotte and they lose in the conference title game
and that's their first loss of the season?
That means they will have beaten Georgia en route to that, by the way.
Both of those teams are going to be in the playoff.
I still haven't mentioned Miami.
If Miami just does nothing more than win out the rest of the year,
they're 11 and 1.
They don't play in the conference title game.
11 and 1 Miami with wins over Notre Dame, USF, Florida, they're going to be in the playoff.
I just listed three ACC teams.
So what are we doing?
That's a quarter of the playoff field before we even talk about the SEC and the Big Ten.
Not to mention Notre Dame if they win out.
If Notre Dame wins out and we've got limited playoff spots and it comes down to 11 and 1 Miami or Notre Dame and Miami's got a head-to-head win over Notre Dame,
does Notre Dame get bumped out of the playoff in favor of Miami?
we got to have room on the shelf for these SEC and Big Ten teams, not to mention a G5 automatic qualifier.
The ACC could be the chaos maker, not the SEC or the Big Ten.
God, I love this game.
I love that this show.
Whenever you do other shows, there's pre-production meetings.
Yeah.
Take place and say, hey, this is what we're going to talk about.
Hey, I'm going to ask you this question, make sure you have an answer.
There's none of that.
You come into the shop, you flex a couple of times.
We talk, we joke.
We talk about rumors we've heard.
And then we go and shoot the show.
And for him to ask you a question like that and be fully prepared,
it just shows why he should be the commissioner of college football.
He's got his finger on the pulse.
Got his finger on the pulse.
It's very scary stuff.
Didn't even think about the ACC.
Didn't even think about it.
I'm just thinking about the chaos in our conference and then the FCC.
I'm trying to think if there's a fourth team over there.
There may be a fourth team.
I don't know.
In the ACC?
Yeah, that's at least three of them.
I was listening to Bud Elliott the other day throughout like a four scenario,
which the world would end before that.
happenless be real. But yeah, he had like a fourth team. I can't remember the standings off the top
of my head. Man, that would be crazy. Yeah, you've got to like legitimately, it sounds fun at Halloween,
but when we turn the corner into November, it starts to get real. Like if you're sitting there
and you're in Nebraska, if you're sitting there and like you're going to be Georgia or like one of
these at large teams and all of a sudden, wait, you're telling me Virginia just by way of not
playing anyone all year. Not even an undefeated Virginia. They lost to NC State and somehow. And
they're scheduling conference opponents in non-conference games.
That's what I was trying to allude to.
That is a non-conference game.
So Virginia's still undefeated in conference play,
even though they lost to a conference opponent somehow.
If those teams start vulturing playoff spots from these like SEC teams
that just stabbed each other and crawled over each other the whole year
and there's blood all over the place and their jeans are ripped and they finally got there
at 10 and 2 and a committee member says, yeah, Virginia, sorry.
Do you imagine?
Oh, it's going to be beautiful.
Chaos.
Absolute chaos.
Miggle of Ultra.
Superior is worth playing for.
Superior Light beer.
All the things.
I'm four and six.
Our records four and six are my favorite scissors.
Are you ready?
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I'm ready.
Superior light beer.
Superior bragging rights.
Do that.
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Got it down to one.
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Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers.
And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts.
We're starting a trend.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names.
of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
where people could call in and say,
Hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
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We don't care where you hear it.
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presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the
hips since high school. Now a redacted amount of years later. We're still joined at the hip. Just a little
bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back
of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer?
Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just take it.
What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a...
rap album?
Oh, I would.
Come on.
Could you believe?
I would buy it.
Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake.
That sounds delicious.
Oh, you're lucky.
I'm not a drug addict.
You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic.
You are.
I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on.
Oh.
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Defying the Odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game.
His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin
Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the
playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they
don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.
He has to guard Julius Randall.
And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense.
And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too.
Steve Nash would get that thing.
That man, hell get the flying.
He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball.
Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah.
You figure it out real quick.
Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball.
So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Let's talk about this.
Let's talk about number 18 Oklahoma and number 14, Tennessee.
Tennessee's going all black.
Last week of October, Spooktober.
Going full, all black.
Tennessee's favored minus three and a half.
Total points that game is 56 and a half points.
I'll start.
This is Tennessee.
Oh.
This is, to me, this is Tennessee.
Love John Mateer.
Hated what he did to my Wolverines.
Every Power 4 team they've played, the most points they've scored is 26 points.
But wait. But wait.
There's more.
But can I just offer you one thing?
Go ahead.
Oh, you just lost last week, right?
Yeah.
They lost the Ole Miss.
This is desperation time for them.
Yeah.
Backs against the wall.
They got to have this one.
And that doesn't sway you.
OU in a bounceback spot, that doesn't sway you at all?
If the quarterback was healthy, it would absolutely sway me.
If their run game was consistent, that would absolutely sway me.
But I think Josh Hyple is one of the best
offensive play cars in all of college football.
They're going to get points.
They run the ball better than Oklahoma does.
They are better at explosives.
Joey Aguilar has been ripping the ball all over the field.
The defense, obviously the secondary is not great,
but that brings me back to John Mateer and his hand.
This is not an injury that gets better with time
while you're still playing.
This is an injury that you have to rest, do rehab,
hit the little spider web thing and get that strength back in your hand.
Like, he's still playing well,
but he's not playing like we saw him.
when he was a Heisman front ladder earlier in the year.
And that's why I like Tennessee.
I like it at night.
I think Rocky Top's a very difficult place to play.
I watched it versus Alabama last year.
Incredible game.
I think this is the nail in the coffin that Tennessee puts in for Oklahoma.
Do you want to go?
You want me to go?
I can go.
I love Tennessee here just because it's dark mode.
This is where this place is going to be rocking.
Nealyn's going to be rocking.
Tennessee, I, Oklahoma just doesn't have enough off.
to keep up with Tennessee.
Can't will they score against Tennessee?
I think they'll score against Tennessee.
Because Tennessee, it's like if it, you know,
if it flies, floats, or plays defense on Tennessee,
you lease it, you don't buy it.
It'd be nice to have, but it's not in the budget for them.
So they're a very poor defense,
but they're the number one offense in the country.
They're the best offense in the country too
when it comes to first half points.
If you just look at Oklahoma, like their last three games,
like they're only averaging 19.3 points per game in totality.
I just don't think they have enough offense.
I think with the environment, the dark mode and everything else.
I like Tennessee here.
I don't see how Oklahoma gets it done unless it's just purely survival instinct,
and they find a way.
Find a way.
But you're not going to slow down this Tennessee offense.
And it's, do you think Oklahoma can win in a shootout?
We saw it last week with Old Miss.
Like, Old Miss is a very high-powered offense.
Tennessee has an even more – Tennessee has even more power on offense.
And Aguilar, too.
He's done for how many yards, Jack?
$2,400?
A lot.
A lot.
Like three or four games.
games over 350 yards.
2344, what, 18 touchdowns.
Make it 19.
To me it's just I don't think Oklahoma can win in a shootout.
I don't think they have the offense for it.
So for those reasons, I love Tennessee here, and it's blackout.
It's just, it's dark mode.
This place is going to be electric.
It already is, but it's even going to pick up another tempo.
Before Pate goes, because he's going to have the best analysis on this,
is how does Oklahoma win this game?
And it's got to be talent possession.
It's got to be John Matar with his legs.
legs and that defense playing out of their mind better they're already a great defense but
playing even better than they usually do against an offense that's going to score no matter what
all right well let's work from the back to the front how does oklahoma win the game per
volkest this is not my stat this is our friends over at volkest tennessee's defense averages 12
miss tackles per game you got burks and setegna there at oklahoma yeah not great they can turn
seven into 70, as Mee Mall would say, so they can take it to the house. That's part one.
Part two, Tennessee is terrible red zone defense. Oklahoma excellent when they get down there.
So break tackles, capitalize in the red zone, but Tennessee is going to score.
Sort of the veil got pierced last week of the Oklahoma secondary in Ole Miss.
Chambliss had 315 passing.
And then Chambliss can extend with his legs better than Joey.
Joey's not a statue.
But Chambliss can go east-west a little bit better.
So I think that bought Ole Miss a lot of business offensively, but they're going to get theirs.
Because Tennessee's got the number three passing offense in the country.
So they're going to get theirs.
Veil is broken.
This is not some impenetrable fortress of a defense like they looked like they were on paper last week.
So if it comes down to trading points, and that's what I think it'll come down to, can Oklahoma do that?
Pre-thumb injury with John Matier, I would have said yes.
Post-thumb injury, he's gone from 63 to 57%.
completion percentage. He's gone from 303 yards per game to 191. So there's been a precipitous drop
off there. I don't trust their ability to trade points. However, go back to the question I asked you,
this is a competitive character spot. You just lost. Your competitive manhood's on the line. You got to
go on the road to get the job done in conference. But that was what you were always going to have to
do if you were going to make it to Atlanta and play for the SEC championship. This is the paper
Popper. Oklahoma under Brent Bennebill's awful loss. They're six and eight. I think this is Tennessee's
spot. It's a clean sweet. It took me on a roller coaster there. That was nice. Yeah. Also, the locals there
in Knoxville will tell you maybe the loudest the place has ever been is the Bama game when they
beat them after the 15 year drought. But if it's not that game, it's when Baker Mayfield and Oklahoma
came into Knoxville, what, like a decade ago?
2015.
No one even knew.
Oklahoma fans didn't even know who Baker Mayfield was yet.
And then he goes to Neal and they come back from the dead.
Out of conference game.
They come out back from the dead and they win and kneeling up until that point, just rocking.
And that's when everyone knew, wow, this dude, and this team's for real because no one was going to go in there.
People in the SEC looked at that and said, they're dead.
And Oklahoma said, no, we're not.
Baker Mayfield said, no, we're not.
this is the first time
OU's been there since then, right?
Yeah, now it's a conference game.
Hypoe played at Oklahoma.
It's his old team,
and I think there's a certain, like,
like bloodthirst in Josh Hypo's soul for this game.
And this was a game.
They won last year,
but they never really drove the stake through the heart.
It was kind of a weird game.
Jackson Ardle gets benched.
This is the one where he really wants to hit the tombstone,
pin them for the one, two, three.
Tennessee by double digits, maybe.
I don't know, but I'm taking Tennessee to win.
Wow.
Cross the board, Tennessee.
Jack back there.
If, I know the trend this year is firing coaches.
Oh no.
Is Oklahoma in that position they lose this game?
Because the noise before the season was Brent Ben and Bulls kind of on his last leg a little bit.
Not quite Billy Napier, but still, hey, if he doesn't get the job done, which I'm assuming the job is competing for an SEC championship and the national championship, or at the very least making the playoff.
He's prepared to say something.
He's moving the table.
Like, you're Josh King.
You just turn my eye out of regular seat.
Now I got the exit road in Southwest.
So what do you got?
It sounds like you've been on the message boards.
Listen, I might keep my ear to the ground a little bit.
Sounds like you've been vibing with the diehards, the P1s.
Because they would tell you yes.
They would tell you already.
And we got the car built here.
We just need the right guy in the driver's seat.
Maybe BV's not the right guy in the driver's seat.
Now, I look at that and say, that's a little psychotic.
We've got to pump the brakes in the car just a little bit.
We've already fired James Franklin, who was fresh off playing for a conference title and going to the playoff last year.
I don't think it's time.
I don't think if he loses here, it's time.
I think some position coach changes.
Like, you're only as good as your staff is.
And I think they may have some, how should I say this diplomatically, deficiencies on their offensive coaching staff, not Ben Arbuckle.
Should be a future friend of the program, not Ben Arbuckle.
But maybe a little bit downstream of him, maybe some changes.
That's okay.
I don't think it's time to pull the plug on Brent and Venables.
But that's me talking.
You asked me, I gave you my answer.
If I give you my login, well, you don't need one.
You got your own, obviously.
And you start surfing the OU message boards.
Maybe a different tune.
Okay, let's play the crystal ball game.
It doesn't work out.
They lose this game.
They drop a couple others before the season's over.
They say, Brent Venables, your time is up.
Is the next head coach of Oklahoma also coaching in this game this week?
No.
Heipel is in Tennessee to stay.
Yeah.
think so his name's starting to come up it is with lSU right it is but also you brought you're at the
point i was trying to i was thinking about getting to which is he he played there he played at oklahoma
he loves oklahoma he was a sooner does he though i don't know does he love oklahoma
that's the oc i think if oklahoma was on fire right now josh hypo would look at it and say
i got nothing guys i can't help you i'm dehydrated dugal water next to him yeah i got nothing sorry
I'd love to, but I got nothing.
I can't help you.
Okay.
Yeah.
So hype will stay unless he goes to LSU.
He's staying unless he doesn't.
He's staying unless he doesn't is a great way to put it.
Yeah.
I like that.
I'm confident that we'll nail that prediction.
Let me go check the boards.
I'll check the boards and I'll get back to you.
Let me set up the two-class in the end of the week.
You're confident that you'll nail the next head coach at Oklahoma?
No, we didn't know.
He's confident that we just nailed the take about what will happen in Oklahoma.
Got you. And in Tennessee, technically.
And to be honest with you, I have some thoughts about who the next coach in Oklahoma would be.
But it's irresponsible to talk about that as long as Brent and Venables is there.
Can we have a fun conversation after the show?
Yeah, I don't see why not.
All right.
Just a couple of gals chatting.
Just a couple gals chatting.
All right.
Two classic game of the week.
I know Will Compton's thinking about Nebraska.
I'm going to go to two classic game of the week real quick.
So hang on, hang on.
Are you nixing in the Nebraska game?
No, I'm not mixing it.
I want to give it.
It's time.
Okay, okay.
Because we saw the clip.
It's not a surprising thing.
Will's taking Nebraska outright.
Yeah, but that's not how or why.
We all know you're taking Nebraska.
I want to feel it.
I want to sit in it.
I want to get my popcorn.
I want to sit back knowing where I'm going no matter what.
I just love that you.
You want to give it its time.
I just love that sentence came through the studio at like 58 miles an hour and a 45.
And the blue lights came on before you even put a period on the end of it.
It's like, no, no, no, no.
This isn't happening.
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This is not that,
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Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news, new?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called,
Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to a...
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's actually...
Extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Before Jonas Brothers was...
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up.
was a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.
And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds.
Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
And finding ways to win no matter what.
He's the smartest player to ever play the game.
His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before.
And he knows.
without Luca and Austin Reeves,
I got to manipulate the game.
We get a player's perspective
on the challenges of the playoffs.
I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,
he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.
He has to guard Julius Randall.
And then he has to give us everything
he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense.
And when IT's friends stop by,
like Quentin Richardson,
we dive into some playoff history too.
Steve Nass would get that thing.
That man, hell get the flying.
man, he running up the court, licking his fingers
why he got the ball, like,
after you go through a training camp with that, I say,
you figure it out real quick.
Get your ass up and down the court,
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Every Saturday's got games,
but only one if it's just right.
This is the true class.
the game of the week. We got number nine, Vanderbilt. They traveled to Austin, Texas against
number 20 Texas. Clark Lee for Steve Sarkeesium, Texas is favored in this game, minus two
and a half. Who would have thunked it? Total points that game is 45 and a half.
Josh, what are you thinking? I was talking to our friends at Van Duel yesterday.
Yeah. I asked them, take me back to the summer. Put these teams on the neutral field.
What would your line have been? And they said, Texas minus 21 and a half. I said, take me to today.
put them on a neutral field again what is the line they said vandy minus one so we've had a three
touchdowns perceptional swing on this game from it's not even it'll be november by the time
this game is played but it's just been two months of the season it normally takes years
to perceptionally move a matchup three touchdowns so that's where we are here we don't think
arch is going to go he's in concussion protocol he got pulled over yesterday
if you've skimed Twitter.
Sad.
I can't confirm that photo's real, but I assume it is.
He's not going to play.
So it's Matthew Caldwell.
No one knows anything about him.
Texas fans don't know anything about him.
He was at Troy last year.
He's not a freshman.
He's a senior.
You know my backup quarterback theory.
I've told you guys.
I floated it to you many times.
We've workshopped it off camera.
Let's just talk about it on camera.
In a college football locker room,
especially one that has high expectations
and a lot of high profile athletes in it.
I've always believed it does something to you to galvanize you when your guy goes down
because you know collectively we got to pick up some of the slack.
And oftentimes in college you find a team overperforms with the backup in
because everyone has taken it upon themselves to shoulder a little more of the load.
That's part one for Texas.
Part two, this is a defensive oriented team, right?
They had 38 hung on them in Starkville, Mississippi last week.
They got dunked on.
Brandon Walker got dunked on.
Everyone got dunked on, but they got out of there with a win.
They did.
Brandon Walker didn't.
They got out of there with a win.
So they come home, and they've got a pride in performance spot defensively.
Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt come in.
Missouri beat them everywhere in the box score last week, but they won on the scoreboard.
They dominated in the red zone.
Missouri crossed the seven, they're crossed the 50, seven times, and scored 10 points.
And so Vanderbilt goes into Austin, lines under a field goal.
It's a huge manmaker spot like competitive character test for Texas.
If Texas loses, they're out of everything.
If Vandy loses, they're still not out of the playoff picture.
So it's one of those classic Vanderbilt wants it.
Texas needs it spots.
People are questioning whether Sartch should call plays,
whether he's even going to still be the head coach at Texas, reportedly.
I think Texas is going to win this game and cover.
I think it's going to be an ugly dogfight game.
I think Texas is going to find a way games played in the low 20s,
probably like 2316 type game, Texas finds a way to win and cover.
That was well said.
Well said, absolutely.
I'm thinking that it's beautiful.
I wanted Texas in this game.
Now I feel like I need to have Texas in this game.
Because I'm just all in on the backup quarterback theory because the focus and urgency that every player, like you said, takes upon themselves to pick it up a notch.
And not to mention the backup quarterback knowing that this is a moment for him for all the preparation he does as the backup.
Even coming in that game and throwing that touchdown.
It was a big moment.
Beautiful ball.
In OT, Arch goes down, which Arch, by the way, had a hell of a game.
He was throwing it around the yard, what, over 300 yards, a couple of touchdowns.
Texas did a great job getting back in that game down by, what, 17?
Yes, and think about this.
Just pause right there.
I'm sorry, one time out.
You're thinking if you're a Texas fan.
We're going to get Arch back.
It's concussion protocol, but he'll work through it, he'll be back.
If we can just survive this game, he's coming off his best game of the year.
Yes.
Maybe we get hot in November.
So we just got to find a way against Vanderbilt.
And if we come out of it, it's one of those, don't let Texas get hot type things.
And you got Wisner and you got the other tailback whose name escapes me at the moment,
which is inexcusable because it's Texas.
Baxter, both of them probably combined as healthy as they've been all year.
Texas has not been a great rushing team.
But if they need to eke out 115 on the ground here to take some pressure off Matthew Caldwell, maybe they do.
Go ahead.
I agree.
It's the team should be feeling like it's all on them and it's arm and arm every week because they haven't put a great product on the field.
But I don't know how to explain it.
It just naturally happens when you have a moment like this where arches down, you got the backup in.
And I just like Texas here.
I like Texas here.
I watched the Missouri game.
I watched the recap of the Missouri game.
The missing field goal, I was disappointed that Missouri could not get that win out, obviously, because I picked Missouri.
If Vanderbilt is having a hell of a year, I just, I like Texas here.
I like Texas.
And I like the thought that when you do watch that offense kind of come alive in that second
half of the Mississippi State game, that optimism of like if we can get through this game,
we could be hot going in the back end of this schedule.
I agree with everything both of you said.
This is a game that Texas should absolutely win.
The problem that I have is you play Kentucky, go to overtime against Kentucky.
You squeak out a win there.
And then you're down 17 in Mississippi State.
So you've had two games that you've had to rev Harrah.
hard RPMs, emotionally and physically.
And now you have to get up again for a team that no one expected.
You thought it would be a 21.5 point.
But now you're a neutral field.
You're actually dogs by one and a half points.
I don't think Vanderbilt played great.
I don't have the luxury of seeing there having like the PFF or whatever.
You can see the back view, seeing where guys messed up until this game.
Cade McConnell on the left tackle, whose name is escaping right now.
They came to the building.
He texted me last week.
Taylor's a position coach.
Yeah.
They text me like, hey, I would love to watch film with you.
And I was like, yeah, dude, we can absolutely do that.
Monday, 3 o'clock come by.
He comes by, brings left tackle.
We go through all 55 of those plays.
Their offense, from a blocking standpoint, it's pretty, it's not basic, but it is,
it's not the most complex offensive line.
Their offense, however, is extremely complex.
It says every single one play has multiple ways to throw the ball as well,
whatever, it's a bubble going out or a quick slam, those types of things.
And every single play, they're talking.
about how disappointed they are in themselves, how disappointing the coaching staff is and how they
perform. No one's patting themselves on the back after college game day came in, after Diego Pavia,
and this whole Heisman talk is happening. Inside that building, I've been told by the players
that they're not happy with their performance. They know what's in front of them and their coaching
staff is not happy with them. Every single play we went over, Cade didn't make an excuse when we
had a bad play. The left tackle didn't make excuse. They like, well, like, I was asked on this play,
here's why. And they would explain it to me why they did.
bad and how they can do better. They would talk about this receiver messed up here, what he should
be. So they have a very, a very mature understanding of their offense that a lot of college football
players do not have that I didn't have when I was in their position that they are. Seeing how hungry
they are, watching them just want to come and watch film with me when I don't know if I'm going to be
able to help them or not. I see what this team they know they have in front of them. They know what
the expectation is now is to play an SEC championship and win a national championship. I think they are
going to be up for this game. They're going to be going to be.
to win this game. I'm taking Vanderbilt.
Taylor, hey, the danger here is Taylor has emotional ties now.
I do.
Because when you're like the couple emotional wins for Texas, like my argument would be,
well, they have struggled offensively.
And when you watch that second half, like the optimism and energy of like, guys, this is
what we can be.
And then the letdown spot for that defense takes a lot of pride of being one of the best
defenses in the country.
And that was a very disappointing performance if you're sitting in the defensive room and
everything else to get an OT win. Like, guys, we escaped that one. Now you've got a very hungry
Vanderbilt team coming to Austin. Like, I just see it as this is just going to be a very hungry
Texas team in all phases because of the spot that they're in. I agree. That was a period.
Okay, that was a period. All right. I agree with all of that. I think if you're Sarkesian,
you sit in the team meeting room and you say, boys, like, this is the offense that we expected
to be at the beginning of the year years are finally hitting our stride. And everyone has a lot of
optimist about that because you know your defense prides them on being a top five defense.
and all of college football.
But if you insert the possibility of the crowbar theory per Josh Pate.
Oh boy.
And you're now going into half and you only have put three points on the board and it's a
seven three type of game.
That optimism and excitement that you had on Monday and Tuesday, are you still keeping
that or now is doubt creeping in from a player standpoint being like, oh, we were able
to do X, Y, and Z because the star is kind of aligned in that situation.
And you now shut down because you're like, oh, this is who we really are in offense.
And then the crowbar opens it up in the second half.
And the crowbar is already in the spokes,
and you're on your face, and your face all skid up.
Vanderbilt, no one believes in Vanderbilt.
Vanderbilt has one loss.
Everyone's still like, it's a cute story.
I think people believe in Vanderbilt.
Cade McConnell, those guys, there's nothing about,
they're like, I need nine more wins or however many it is.
They go play in a national championship.
They have, they are so focused,
and they know they're capable of doing it.
They have a great defense.
they have a super hard they have a super complex offense to defend against and they have a player at the
helmet quarterback that can make all of the things happen to where you're never truly out of the game
and i like vanderbell you're right i'm emotional i'm emotional i do you love those boys i'm emotionally
tied i went from hating on them because my banking account would hurt if i love them to now i've
accepted that my bank account is going to get hurt and i want my banking account to get hurt because i want
them to be successful yeah remind me the terms there's a level of bias they just have to make the
playoff they know god no they have to win the SEC and when
the national championship.
Oh, both.
They have to win the whole thing.
They have to win the whole thing.
They don't really have to win the national title?
Oh, yeah. Boys?
Yeah?
I thought it was just Natty.
Nope.
I was thinking at one point it was just SEC.
No, JP.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Yeah, win it all.
I thought it was just win the national championship.
I don't, I don't remember the SEC.
What I'm gathering is the terms were never really clearly stated.
But what you're being in the driver's talking going back and forward.
Yeah, being the driver's saying, all right.
They win the national championship, but don't win the SEC.
there's my hey yeah big deal ninja smoke i'm out of here sorry but hey good congratulations
i love it dude is it is it in the inside the bus vlog oh yeah so we can go back and see it
it so we'll have verbal comp we have some verbal so go watch the inside to the vlog go watch the inside
the inside the bus yeah i'll defer to the vlog it is what it is and if it says national
championship no s uc great that's that's that's the answer just for clarity Mitch the terms are in the
inside the bus youtube page yeah if you go to the inside the bus youtube page
We have a vlog at Taylor Luan's pool party.
Are these the ads?
I feel like it may be in there.
But anyways, go run it up.
I still don't think they're going to win the natty.
I think it's such an uphill battle.
I love it right now.
And I think they beat Texas, but.
Do you think alt line?
Would you lay an alt line on them?
They're dogs right now.
It's just us talking.
Yeah, it's just us.
No one's going to hear us.
I'm just going to go money or any band.
Per the show, I'm not going to tell the audience this.
i'm not going to tell the audience that i'm going money line for the show and the sake of the record i'm
gonna take them with the points but everybody's talking about sark leaving what if clark lee leaves
i think clark lee is gonna leave he's gone he's gone yeah i think he's out of he's out of there
yeah you got to sell high and if you're clark lee it's like yeah you've done it amazing you played at vanderbilt
that's awesome you've got them they're doing stuff they did yeah last time i did it was world war two
literally when they built the university right yeah and it's like yeah that's great but the sustainability i don't
think is there and the job openings that are there like of lane kiffin does or does not take one of those
jobs whatever job is open why not go snipe lee a lot of pretty girls out there why not take lee over
kiffin yeah you got you got your own pause button here by the way yeah he's been paused the whole
time yeah let you say it like that all right yeah yeah yeah we're back on the show yeah we're back on the
um let's get to just a game we interrupt this episode to bring you our profit boost token the boys
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number 23 USC, a top 25 football team. Did you call this just a game? Did you call this just a game?
It's just a game. There's no title on the line. There's no label on the game. It's just a good
old-fashioned game. Two, two lost teams.
playing for hoping to keep their college football playoff hopes alive,
which is kind of seem like just a game
because we just talked about the ACC,
the Big Ten, and the SEC.
There's so many teams that are in the same position.
So I'm not going to put a whole lot of pressure on this game.
Taylor, do you and Josh want to go first
to let Will have his time?
This isn't a spot where I need my time.
Like, we know what's on the line.
Number 23 USC at Nebraska.
Nebraska is a dog at six and a half.
which means USC's favorite six and a half total points that game is 59 and a half points
squeaked out a win against northwestern USC
bad loss against Notre Dame run by Lane Kifton six and no after a buy is that a paper
popper is on your statute oh yeah Lane Kiffin's not the head coach is my fault
Lincoln Riley six he's six and no after a buy just a game don't worry it's just a game
I didn't know that stat.
You know how I found that out?
Somebody tweeted at us.
They're like, this is a paper popper stat.
Don't show Will.
And you're tagged in it.
You didn't really check it.
You didn't do background on it.
You just didn't do this true.
Saw it right there and I was like, I'm taking that to the show.
Oh, so we don't know if that's fact.
We have no idea.
Oh, you know.
We have phones, though.
Yeah, look that up.
Look that up.
Pretty close.
Pretty close.
He's been head coach forever.
So he's been a head coach twice.
The two buys his whole life.
Wow.
Ryan Nolan said that.
Ryan Nolan.
Okay.
So that's...
Let's assume he's 6 and 0 after a buy.
Let's assume that they've extremely high-powered offense.
And let's just assume that Jordan Maillata's only thrown four interceptions this year.
Well, those are facts.
You just cannot be serious with the name.
The left tackles of the level of Eagles.
You cannot be serious for the name.
You got to nail the first one or the last one.
Myava.
Dude, oh, I'm so sorry.
Myava and Milata?
You name the tackle of the eagles.
This is coming from Nutmire, dude.
Are we serious?
That's close enough.
I'm at least, I'm giving nicknames.
He's naming fictional people.
I'm at least naming football players.
Jordan, Myelava.
Do you know that it?
Well, I mean, it's Jade.
It's Maya.
It is what it is.
Foreign receptions.
Yeah.
Red Squiggly is under front and back of that.
Like, first and last name is Red Squiggly.
We've texted.
You see my errors.
unless I'm using ChatGPT.
But what is my office record off a buy?
That's what we really need to know.
He actually may be one and one off a buy.
He's just a player.
He might be.
Yeah.
He's just a player.
This game is everything.
This is what I want it, dude.
Let me get just, let me enjoy this.
We're officially in the playoffs right now.
It's going to be hard for me to stare at that.
We are officially in the playoffs right now.
Both teams.
Two lost teams.
If any Big Ten team, if any SEC team, you're going to have a chance to be in the conversation.
Let's say that ACC chaos happens.
If you're going to be in the conversation at the end of the year for the college football playoff,
you're going to have two losses in that column.
So we're in the playoffs right now.
And what an opportunity in Lincoln, Nebraska, on Saturday night, primetime blackout.
This is a blackout game.
All black unies, the crowd is going to be pumping.
And here are some facts I do have for you.
Let's just look at, because again, if you look at USC minus six and a half, people, you could potentially salivate over this line.
If you watch the Huskers all year long, if you watch USC, the wins that they do have when Michigan went out to USC.
But let's look at USC's history since they've came to the Big Ten and traveling to the Midwest or farther out east.
Some questions for you, Josh.
September 21st,
2024.
USC traveled out to Michigan.
Lost 2724.
October 5th,
2020.
They traveled out to Minnesota.
2417, Minnesota.
October 19th,
2024, they traveled out to Maryland.
Taylor, do you know what happened?
Mike Myers, do you know what happened?
Maryland 1, 29, 28.
September 13th, 2025,
they traveled out to Purdue.
You want to know what happened?
3317.
3-17, USC won that game, but they only beat Purdue by, what is that, what is that math right there?
16 points?
Didn't cover.
Scotty, my 11-month-old, could be Purdue by 16 points.
September 27th, 2025, they go out to Illinois.
What happened?
They lost Illinois, 34-32.
October 18th, 2025, they go out to Notre Dame.
What happened?
They lost to Notre Dame 34-24.
What do emu's ostriches and USC Trojans have in common?
Well, back in Harris County, we harvested them from meat.
There you go. They can't fly and they can't thrive in cold weather.
They're going to come out to Lincoln, Nebraska.
We're going to clip their wings in a very hostile environment.
Look at me, Husker Nation. You've heard Coach Rule talk about it.
We need everybody. Get sauced up.
Get as absolutely rowdy and as toxic as possible because we need everybody inside of Memorial Stadium
on Saturday night at 7.30 Eastern kickoff time.
Prime time, fellas.
This is a moment for no.
Nebraska football. Put all put the inconsistencies. Put the shit aside. We've struggled in one score
games. We've now won. I forget what our record is in one score games. Games we've won this
year in one score games. Forget what I just said right there. You win any way you fucking can.
USC is going to score, but the priority is when they get to the red zone, keep them at three
and not give them seven. Because I'm not assuming we are going to shut USC out. This is a very
good offense. I am nervous about this game because I have a lot of, I've watched USC a lot
throughout the course of this year. It's Huskers money line. It's Huskers money line. And put that
on my record, but everybody knows I'm doing that anyway. There's no reason to hide that.
This is fucking everything this weekend. Let me ask you a question. Ask. Tell me what these
numbers mean to you. 186 to 36. That was the rushing yardage advantage.
Minnesota had over you.
286 to 43.
That was the rushing yardage advantage that Michigan had over you.
My question is simply this.
Go back to USC versus Michigan.
They ran the ball to win the game.
USC's trying to win in the Big Ten.
This is a Big Ten game, right?
Yeah.
It's going to be November, right?
It's going to be 40 south of 45 degrees at kickoff,
and it's only getting colder.
It's going to be on the road.
All this stuff that,
Lincoln Riley has struggled with historically, that's the statement they got to make.
Now, part two of my question to you, no one knows Nebraska.
No one fights for Nebraska football more than you, right?
More than they could ever know.
They don't even know.
But maybe they will know one day.
They will know very soon how hard I fight for this program.
Emmett Johnson, 20 plus carries Saturday.
Yes or no.
Yes, you have to feed this man.
He's got to touch the ball, in my opinion, at least 30 times.
Because he is the number two player in the country.
entry in all-purpose yards with running backs.
Running backs receives all the skills positions.
He's number one in the Big Ten in all-purpose yards with over 1,000.
This is an Emmett Johnson ball game right here.
Nebraska, when Emmett Johnson carries it 20-plus times, three and O versus the power of four.
One and two when he doesn't.
Dylan Ryola has taken more sacks in the two losses where his tailback doesn't carry it 20-plus times
than he has in the six wins where he does.
I know USC's only in the 80s and past defense.
I know it's tempting to throw the ball to win here,
but they're going to try and run it on you to win.
You got to run it on them to win.
I will take Nebraska plus the points.
I'll ride with you.
We're not out of this.
What does the model say, Josh?
Don't worry about the models.
Do what?
That's the thing about the foxhole, though.
You can come to go as a police.
Can I come back in?
Yeah, you can.
It's the nature of the foxhole.
I made a vow to Will Compton.
two weeks ago, that I would sit and stand in solidarity when it came to Nebraska.
Even in the hard times, even in the times where there's more doubt.
And if there's ever a doubt game, it's this game to the casual viewer.
All the stats you've said, all the stats you said, I agree.
I think Johnson needs to get the ball at least 30 times this game.
You need to chew up time of possession like no one ever has before.
You need to use all of the game clock and keep their offense off of the field.
And then lure them into mistakes.
You need 92,000 screaming fans standing up and losing their voice as Will Compton does on a relatively easy Friday night.
I need you losing your voice by halftime.
By half time.
Begging the concession stands.
Do you have chicken broth back there?
Pumping noise.
Get the little designs with all those little robot flying things.
What those things called?
Drones.
Drones around.
Do it.
Bring the chipmunk out.
Doing the Freddie Mercury.
That is going to be the most.
electric stadium in all of America this Saturday night. And I think the Nebraska cornhusters
come out, not losing by less than six and a half, but with a win. Ten and two, your schedule's
gotten way harder. UCLA started to stand up a little bit. Iowa sneaking up on people. Penn State,
regardless of what they've done, they still got guys all ripping around. There's a, there's a lot of
battles left to fight. This one right here doesn't mean the most of you. It means the most to all of us.
And I will be going big red this weekend.
Money line.
Put it on my record.
Imagine thinking this is just a game.
Foolish.
This, it's not.
It's not just a game.
People are laughing like, I don't have a bit with that.
This is not just a game.
We're in the playoffs right now.
Are we not?
Think about it mathematically.
Hey, we need everybody.
Hey, we need everybody.
Don't embarrass us.
No.
Josh.
Are you willing to go money line?
Let me put it this way.
I'll do it.
I'll do it.
I've already said I'll do it.
I'll do it.
We've done it.
Just for the photo.
Hey,
soft hands.
And I mean that as a compliment.
Yeah,
using someone else's lotion lately.
Smart.
Man,
kiss your families.
We might not come back from this.
There will be casualties,
but we will come out on time.
There will not be casuals, though.
There will not be casuals.
Amen.
Oh, also.
This is the step.
This is the step for Nebraska right now this weekend.
We've talked about it for years.
Got to take the next step.
This is the step.
The one thing that matters.
This weekend, we solidify our future.
Yeah.
This game is the season.
We've talked about it.
Seven and five is no longer an option.
This is the game.
Oh, hey, we went and watched that Michigan, Nebraska game.
Michigan was on Ryola all day.
USC is top 15 in pressure rate
and Nebraska's in the 120s
in sacks allowed
The fuck is that?
It won't matter
What I'm trying to say is it won't matter
That was just a game
This is far more than that
I just want to throw out there though
And if you're Hogerson
If you're the O'SC
that we all claim Hogerson to be it
You see that game and your last game
You played it
Well the one he played against Minnesota
You can't put this in the hands
Of pass protection
Nope, that's why you got to run the ball
You can't put this in the hands of a five-star quarterback.
Like you've got to run the ball and make it ugly, muddy.
And when you do throw the ball, you're moving the pocket.
You have to move the pocket.
No, I don't think we're in a spot where we have to stay one-dimensional.
You can put the ball in the hands of Rayola.
You can't.
I'm saying not all game long.
You put the hands in the Rayola.
I'm just saying if we need a drive and Raolo's got to drop back and throw the ball, I am supremely confident.
This, your offense align.
reminds me of the 2013
Michigan Wolverines
offensive line
horrendous
terrible
and I say that
because I was on that
2013 Michigan
offensive line
we were abysmal
if it wasn't for having
a super mobile quarterback
the stats would be insane
we got to move the pocket
I think Rayola can fill a hell of a ball
I think he's a great quarterback
he's not a great quarterback when he's on his ass
so we've got to scheme up some good shit
here we will we have to i got to call this afternoon with hoverson do you yeah yeah
yeah every week every wednesday it's me and hoagerson talking game playing is that real red
zone two minutes situational ball is that real for the viewers that's real yes for the viewers that's
real yeah for the viewers that's real like the undertaker was dead my entire childhood i was a viewer
well let's hit the dog of the week let's get out of here huh this is why you left that game for the
last. If we did that in the first game and then had to do the rest of the slate, people might
have checked out. Checked out. That was everything and more. Make sure you subscribe. Please.
No point in resubscribing either. We've, I figured that out. Cal plus four and a half versus
Virginia, coast to coast game. Virginia Tech, yeah.
No, it's Virginia. Oh, you're talking about, I thought you're talking about last week.
No. Yeah, because they played BotTech last week and should have won and lost and I'm salty about it.
Cal, four and a half against Virginia.
They're playing both Virginia teams back-to-back weeks,
and they're a four-and-a-half-point dog
in both of those games.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Anyway, continue.
That's it.
Oh.
There's no pause.
I'm taking Maryland plus 21 and a half against Indiana.
Can't stand the way you say it?
I support it.
Yeah, I lost my card.
It's Maryland.
Oh, yeah, Maryland.
Maryland.
Yeah, it's not an amusement park at the state.
Another, hey, another little simple one, too.
You want to do a dog of the week.
How about a dog parlay of the week?
Cincinnati Bearcats with the points.
Oscars with the points.
Put that together for a parlay.
Sure, put it together.
The week one special.
Put it on the fun tab.
A, the week one special.
Like where you're heads up.
The Arrowhead special.
The Arrowhead special.
Yeah, I trusted Arkansas last week.
They let me down.
Mississippi State keeps getting close,
keeps getting close, keeps getting close,
maybe they finally go to Northwest Arkansas
and find themselves.
So I'm going to take them,
Mississippi State being them,
plus four and a half,
is my dog of the week.
You said that last week?
I took a peek at the ramen noodle express.
Can I have an understanding?
of what the ramen noodle expresses.
You have to go check it out.
I guess I will.
You know what, that's fair.
We've had a winning year.
That's all that matters.
We've had a winning year.
And on the ramen noodle expresses.
Oh my God.
Is Purdue Money Line?
Do we have a typo in our weekly parley?
Thank you.
I was gonna ask, Josh, you're in the foxhole with Will here at Nebraska.
Oh yeah, what do we got going here?
Wait, what did I say?
The weekly parlay?
Yeah.
I held your hand while Will put his hands on top of ours.
Oh, hey, yeah.
I didn't know that was in the parlay.
I was going to bring it up.
I said, hey, I took a pixie at the ramen noodle express.
I saw.
Oh, you were supposed to talk about that.
Yeah.
Oh.
I still don't know what's happening.
What's happening?
Do I dip on Nebraska?
Because of this one is untethered everything?
Let me say, in fairness to me.
Purdue.
I thought I could get 21 and a half.
Here's what happens.
I send my picks to clump.
And I just assume the number I want is there.
And I just assume he could pull that.
string. And instead, I'm getting 20 and a half. And this has, this has 31 to 10 written all over it.
You know it. I know it. Um, you do, are going to score 10 points on that defense? Yeah. Well,
it's, it's going to be defensive points, special team stuff. What? Well, I guess if it's,
I guess if it's written, I got to go with it, right? It says it just moved. It was 21 and
half even last night. Late movement saves me. Because I was look, I was looking at it too,
just for the fact that Michigan does, they don't, they don't, they don't cover a whole lot.
No, they don't.
They don't.
Okay, first off, the Michigan State no cover.
It was ridiculous.
But remember the Wisconsin.
13 seconds left in the game.
The Wisconsin game, I sat there and told you, as long as I can get 17 and a half, I'm good.
They beat him by 17.
If I can get 21 and a half here, which I can.
They're going to win by 21.
Not according to this sheet.
Give him 20 and a half, dude.
Give him 20 and a half.
Late breaking, 21 and a half.
That is not.
If you're on the Josh Pate tab, it'll be produced.
21 and the half.
Yes.
I'm not going to the Josh.
I'm actually boycotting
the Josh Patent tab.
A lot of boycotts around here
lately.
Thought we were against
Kansas culture.
A lot of guys coming to be in Foxhole lately.
Thought we were against it.
A lot of guys being bros lately
pretending.
I thought I was supposed to be
the serial killer here.
You just stabbed me in the back.
All I'm saying is
the models had a really good read
on Michigan this year.
Really good read.
For you to bring in the model
into this.
After you have said
you have a Michigan problem
and they go and do the thing
against the UFC
and all of a sudden you're jumping ship?
What's going to happen
in a couple of weeks versus Ohio State.
I'm sure you're...
I don't even want to talk about that.
No, no, no, no, no.
I don't want to talk about it.
That's post- Thanksgiving.
I don't want my mind to go there yet.
It's going to be hard.
It's going to be hard for me.
Us.
I'm over here.
My eyes are here.
That's crazy.
Onward, I'll take Minnesota.
Minutes 3 and a half versus Michigan State.
Why?
I can't stay in Michigan State.
And also, the games in Minneapolis.
I saw them play a game there a couple weeks ago.
It's tough place to play.
It is.
Apologies to Ryan.
I'm taking Illinois.
I'm taking Illinois, minus 12 and a half.
against Rutgers, his Rutgers team.
Love it.
You don't have to explain.
Love it.
Love it.
Minnesota minus 3 and a half, Illinois minus 12 and a half, and Purdue, that's going to be plus 21 and a half.
Don't put that on our, don't put that on Buston with the boys's tab.
It's in there.
Put it on Josh Pates.
Don't put it on our tab.
Plus 603.
It's in there.
I don't give a shit.
Plus 603.
Don't put it on our tab.
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