Bussin' With The Boys - Josh Pate Rides Texas OVER Ohio State, Taylor Lewan Backs LSU & Will Compton RIDES Nebraska
Episode Date: August 27, 2025Welcome back to The Locker Room! This week, we dive into the exciting matchups of Nebraska VS. Cincinnati, LSU VS. Clemson, Notre Dame VS. Miami, Alabama VS. FSU, Virginia Tech VS. South Carolina, and... Auburn VS. Baylor. We also dive into our game of the week, Texas Longhorns VS. Ohio State Buckeyes. Later, we dive into our Dogs Of The Week, Syracuse VS. Tennessee, South Florida VS. Boise State, and Colorado VS. Georgia Tech. Lastly, we create our Bet The Boys Parlay. New episodes every Thursday at 6:00 AM. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 14:14 Nebraska VS. Cincinnati 23:38 LSU VS. Clemson 31:27 Notre Dame VS. Miami 43:11 Alabama VS. Florida State 50:53 Virginia Tech VS. South Carolina 59:55 Auburn VS. Baylor 1:13:45 Texas VS. Ohio State 1:24:08 Syracuse VS. Tennessee 1:26:26 South Florida VS. Boise State 1:27:29 Colorado VS. Georgia Tech 1:29:06 Bet The Boys ParlaySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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You like this pretty bald head up here.
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Beautiful mustache.
But fellas, how are we feeling?
I feel like a million domestic, dude.
Dude, this has been, I think this is the first year where the dust is settled.
My first year being a fan of football, Josh, you don't know this.
I won a national championship with my team.
Yeah.
That was like my first year kind of diving into college sports.
Now a year is gone.
I had a year of turmoil where we couldn't pass the ball at all.
All right.
The only team we passed more than were like military schools.
Now I'm in this excitement.
I got Bryce Underwood.
I got a full slate of games that I'm excited for.
This is my, I think the first time in my life that I've been like, I cannot wait for the football.
season. I call JP on Tuesday to talk about South Carolina, and we're both in agreement that
this is the longest week of the entire year. Yeah, I can't believe I'm looking at these games
in my hand right here. Because sometimes in August, you'll find this as your fandom goes on and
you mature. You'll find that sometimes you get to the week one countdown and you say, I feel like
this one kind of snuck up on us a little bit. I feel like not a lot's being said about this team,
that team. You mentioned South Carolina. I've heard 30 different takes on Lenora Sellers.
I've heard people talk about Shane Beamer
and whether he can backload defensive talent
for it feels like a year.
I feel like we have very, very much saturated
the preseason talk
and we'll do a little bit more right now.
Yeah.
It's the energy.
Do you feel like that same thing has happened
with Oklahoma?
With me it has.
So I was doing radio last week
and I'm trying to figure out
because they're asking me,
hey, give us an under the radar team.
I've been on them for like half a year.
I've been on Mateer.
Like I know him better than his parents do.
So to me they're not under the radar,
but I got to think,
Are these folks just now talking?
Like if I'm doing radio in Dallas, are they just now talking college football?
Because if they are, they're going to think this dude's insane.
She actually thinks Oklahoma could be a top 10 team.
That's insane.
So maybe.
Depends on how in the weeds you've been.
It seems like it like March.
Everyone was like Oklahoma was bad last year.
They're going to be bad this year.
Then this Mateer guy transfers him.
And then in the last like month and a half, like Matur is going to be a Heisman candidate.
He's the guy, ball ball, Oklahoma's back.
Jackson Arnold.
He's gone.
like they just seem like everyone's now fully on the Oklahoma train.
Yeah.
And then they did that with Florida State last year.
And then what happened?
Like this, just to let people know how to watch the show, to let us know how to talk about
the show, it was this week last year where I turn on game day.
And I'm high on Florida State.
Everyone's high on Florida State.
And I listen to Nick Saban, who I regard is maybe the best judge of talent out there.
He says, I just went to practice.
I watch Florida State.
That looks like the best personnel I see in the ACC.
They're going to win the ACC.
see dive bomb crater into the side of the mountain no one knows anything let's no one knows
anything that's the best no one knows anything because you were saying before you you think you
see the board clearly today i will say nobody sees anything but nobody's seeing the field as
clearly as willy see is this weekend yeah i've been doing some deep dives deep dives some deep dives
on these teams just to give people a little teaser you guys see your boy decked out in
nebraska gear we're going to be talking Nebraska Cincinnati Thursday night we're a for the for the
haters in the comments to say, we don't touch the Big 12 outside of Taylor's monologue with Arizona
State. Josh Pady, he's an SEC Homer. We're talking Big 12 this week. And by Big 12, we're talking
Baylor Auburn. Yes, that's an SEC team. We're talking Alabama, Florida State, Notre Dame, Miami.
The convicts, the Catholics versus convicts. Rivalry is kicking off our college football season.
Virginia Tech, South Carolina, whom I miss, LSU Clemson, and then the main event of the evening,
Ohio State, Texas, which, by the way, there's a lot of noise around Ohio State.
right now.
Wow.
Big Noon kickoff.
Dave Portnoy,
ban from Ohio State.
I'm also reading that
Dave Portnoy's not
going to any of the Big Ten schools.
I feel like it's a massive wrench
in the plan for Fox.
Fox is also in the debate
with YouTube TV.
I'm asking the Auburn Baylor games
on Friday night.
That's on Fox, right?
Yeah.
I have a working theory
that could already be shot to death
by the time this is uploaded
that they're going to use that game
as leverage and they're going to let that game
go dark.
And if you're on YouTube TV
looking for Auburn Baylor,
to certain people standing behind me Friday night.
You don't see that one.
Then there's outrage, torches and pitchforks everywhere,
and they get it settled just in time for Ohio State, Texas, Saturday.
But I think Auburn and Baylor may have to suffer,
at which point the committee asks, come selection Sunday,
if Baylor's had a 10 and 2 season,
if we didn't see the Baylor game in week one,
can we really judge Baylor on that game in week one?
Who knows, man?
YouTube TV could keep Baylor in the playoffs.
How would you judge it?
Future college football commissioner,
how would you view that game if it wasn't on TV?
Don't you have to have multiple viewing options?
Don't you have to have a buddy?
Don't you have to have a backup plan?
You've had six months.
Don't you have to have at least some kind of dude who knows the internet
and the inner workings of it enough to get you a pirated stream?
That's not something we advocate for on this channel.
We advocate for responsible.
Absolutely.
Responsible gaming, responsible viewing, everything.
Yeah.
Got to have it.
Yeah.
I'm worried about it, though.
Should we dive in?
Yes.
My hands are sweat.
Do we want to quickly dive into the Dave Port and Oystaga?
and the Ryan Day or we want to leave that alone.
We can dive into it.
I get a little nervous because you and I
were trying to go to Texas Ohio State this weekend.
Yeah, the boys are trying to go.
Listen, the main event of the evening.
There's been one clearance.
College game day, big noon kickoff, fall don't lie, tour.
The boys are the Boston boys going to be able to get in this game?
We don't know.
I know 50% has already been approved.
Real content we put in to go to Big noon kickoff.
You keep saying in the main event of the evening.
This is at noon.
This game is at noon.
We sent in myself, Wilcompton, J.P. Hovey, Jack McPherson, we want to go to this game.
You get approved immediately. The three of us are kind of sitting in the rafters.
I think there's something that might happen where I don't know how much noise Ryan Day allows to creep into his office.
You kind of alluded to it before the show started.
I'm worried if he does allow the noise to creep in a little bit, even though he is a friend of the show because he's been on, we had a good time with him.
Friend of the show. He's a friend of the show. I have said nasty things.
and I think there's a situation where
Will, JP and Jack are getting on a plane
Saturday morning, early morning, and I'm
back at home hoping
got the YouTube TV Fox rights get dialed in so I can watch the game.
Don't you think a little bit...
Let me ask you this. Do you think you'd be the same way if you were him?
No.
You don't think it'd be the same way.
Absolutely.
So I can't disagree with you. You know you better than me.
I think a lot of the folks out there saying, man, Ryan Day soft, Ohio State soft,
I think if I put them in a similar situation
and they were to have just gone through, you know,
watching their neighbor to the North get investigated.
And then they watched their main media partner hire a guy
who is on record as calling him crying day.
Ten days out of the week,
I would look at it and I could say,
I can't do anything to take that guy off here.
I'm a little unhappy.
My media partner hired him.
The one thing in my control is,
at least I control access to our building.
I think I may be that small.
I think I would actually go that route.
You think you would?
So I haven't called him soft
because I actually think it would aggravate me enough
to where I'd say,
to my SID or I would say to my director of football operations, screw that guy. I'm not letting him in here.
But then I also think it's fair on the other side. Like Fox has got to make a move. Fox has got to
counter what's happening on the other program. You got Lee Corso's last day. And you've also got
Mac if you're doing what he's doing on the other network. So you had to make a move. I just think a lot
of times people get tied up into this is the football business. This is the football. It's the
entertainment business. You get paid eight figures per year because you're in the entertainment
business. That's why you make more than the lacrosse coach makes. So a little bit
bit of the trade-off is, yeah, you're all about X's nose. You kind of have to deal with
with stuff in that bubble every now and then. So I actually got no problem with what Dave
says about him. I got no problem with the measures they've taken. It's just fun to talk about
to me. I fare both ways to me. You brought up the entertainment. You're in the entertainment industry
as a head coach. Like a lot of people into the building, there is a path where Ryan Day can go
and have fun with Dave Portnoy instead of making Dave Portnoy an enemy. Unless in his mind,
he just personally hates him. Like he might, you know, he might just have the, we were talking about
before like an assistant or somebody come up, give him the information of what's going on
on the internet.
And Ryan Day could simply just be like, yeah, I don't like this guy.
Keep him out of the stadium.
And then go on about his business and football.
There's evidence out there that says he's got his pulse on everything.
Yeah, the evidence is Notre Dame Ohio State and South Bend when they get the fourth
and goal.
I can't, did they score or did they score?
They scored because there was 10 minutes.
Ohio State scored and Notre Dame had nine players on.
Hard, hard fought game, hard fought game.
And he's so focused on Lou Holtz.
then the flag gets planted after Michigan wins 13 to 10,
and they're so caught up in that
that they're even taking away from their own national championship.
And now this, it's like,
I understand you want to like keep the noise out of your building,
but this is not the way.
You're just adding more noise on the outside.
But maybe it's a boulder on his shoulder, man.
Maybe he just creates those ships and he might be thinking about it.
He might not be solely focused on it.
But I could see the other way.
Like for myself, once Dave gets suspended,
it's like if I was head coach Ohio State,
I could see myself just posting a selfie with just a shit-eating grin.
And you guys know it was me.
I don't give a little fuck.
Right.
And that's funny.
Yeah.
Ryan Dave did that right now.
I would wipe my hands and be like, that's a good move.
Or publicly say or publicly do something where, hey, Dave, you can come in.
The only way you can come in is if you take a picture with me midfield with a national title trophy.
Yeah.
Or all these people that come in the media, they have to wear some sort of Ohio State thing.
Like if you're going to be here, you're going to report on the hollowed grounds of the shoe.
I saw another good idea where it's like.
You set up their set because they're inside the stadium, but you set their setup to where the national championship, the banner and everything else.
Framed up, yeah.
Framed behind them the whole time and just have them run the show that way.
But I think there's fun ways to troll.
Yeah, and if I'm Fox, I'm putting Dave just outside the building, like literally one foot away from the distance he's not allowed to walk into and just having like a sideline reporter type of vibe.
See, I think it's a lot more personal to Fox to me with them.
It's a lot more personal to Fox because they're sitting there having to play all their big games at noon.
Big Noon kick off the name of the game actually.
And I think it's worn on them.
Like it's, yeah, they get a ton of money for it.
Like the Big Ten's in a media rights deal with Fox.
And so they're already rubbed the wrong way by that.
Yeah, like, so you don't get to complain.
Now it's going beyond Ohio State to where it's saying that he can't go into the Big Ten stadiums.
Which they tried to pass off as protocol, which absolutely was not protocol until about 48 hours ago.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's on fire in that office right now because they got to appease it's like they, yeah, they want to operate, have Dave.
They're trying to compete with ESPN and stuff.
But they got to appease their biggest media rights partner in the big.
Big Ten's saying, no, this is where we're standing on it.
I'm just going to say, this is supposed to be all about Lee Corso this week.
It's supposed to be about him making a last headgear pick.
I have not heard anyone speak about it all week.
It's been all about Fox.
It's been all about Big Noon.
It's been all about Portnoy.
Been all about Ohio State.
So it's more guerrilla warfare, but I think it's been successful.
No publicity is bad publicity.
And the thing that fixes everything, winning.
Kickoff.
In this case, fixes everything.
What game we want to start with?
Huskers.
That's the main event of the evening evening.
Do you want to do that now?
Huskers?
Yeah.
Yeah, why not?
Thursday.
It's Thursday night.
This game picks off tomorrow.
This is the first game of week one.
Where is the, we have a little talking point.
Is that it?
Yeah, yeah.
You want me to hit you?
Well, it says Taylor and then it says Will or then it says Taylor.
Okay.
You want me to.
Yeah, I don't know where the card is.
Ryan's like.
You can borrow my card and then hand it back to them.
Okay.
Hey, guys, by the way, the boys are hitting the road.
We're tackling a little trip at Arrowhead.
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Of course, we're locked and loaded with our pick.
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know if you guys agree this has got Huskers written all over it this is a big year
just look at the optics stick with me here for a second Josh
Well, just look at the optics.
Didn't say a word.
Of this week.
That's like a Wilcomptonism lately.
Stick with me.
Listen to me.
Shut up.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
No, dad.
I'm talking.
Listen to me.
Fair.
I'm like, okay, all right.
But just look at the optics this entire week.
What superstars played at Cincinnati?
Jason Kelsey Travis, Kelsey.
Jason Kelsey.
Travis Kelsey.
Where are we playing out?
We're playing at Arrowhead.
What do you do to distract the public from this asswhip that's coming at Arrowhead on Thursday night?
Travis Kelsey coin flip.
You proposed to Taylor Swift.
Yeah, pretty selfish.
And make it about something completely different
to act like this game's not even going to happen.
We all know the optimism that's out there
with Willie C. Nebraska.
I'm well aware that we have the longest active streak
of the comment, this is our year.
I'm not dumb into knowing that about us.
I think it this year is actually our year this year.
You got Matt Rule in year three.
Everybody talks about the process of Matt Rule.
It's always year three.
Joshua talks about it on his show.
This is the formula.
Matt Rule in year three is when it starts to shake.
Dylan Raola, year two.
With Dana Hogerson,
JP knows Dana Hogerson.
He's got the headset on the sideline.
For a full year under his belt,
this is his team this year.
Not in the middle of the year.
This year, full offseason.
You got Emmett Johnson,
who is running the rock
and averaging over five yards of carry
toward the back into last year.
We need him to stay healthy now.
We do need Emma Johnson to stay healthy
because we have a young running back.
Our O line is beefy. Beefy. That rock old boy coming from Notre Dame. We got some size on the O line. We got guys on the outside. Daneke from Kentucky. Is it Niziah?
Close enough enough. Yeah. Just keep rolling. You're flowing. Niziah Hunter. Transfer out of Cali. We got weapons on the outside. Jacori Barney, one of the most electric
returners in all of college football. He's in the slot shaking it up. Defensively, we have a younger deep. We have a veteran
secondary. We got a young defensive line who I'm excited to see who's going to stand out.
on the defensive line.
Guys are high on this young Williams kid.
He's a freshman that's going to be playing.
He's a black shirt.
I love the Huskers.
You guys know I'm going to Huskers.
This is minus six and a half.
I don't know why it hasn't moved up.
I don't know why it's not minus 13 and a half,
but I'm taking the Huskers.
I am a little nervous about Sorsby,
quarterback from Cincinnati.
A little dual threat cat can always any dual threat quarterback
that can sling a little bit.
They can always cause a little trouble.
But I love the Huskers this weekend.
Oscars.
Scott Satterfield.
Oscars.
Scott Satterfield's just sitting there.
Third year, I think, at Cincinnati.
Line looks so weird.
I agree with you.
Line looks so weird.
I have polled the entire public,
haven't found a single Cincinnati better,
but they got to be out there at Fanduil somewhere.
If we could see under the hood,
Fanduel could probably tell us,
yeah, a few people.
One in Des Moines, one in Fresno,
they bet Cincinnati.
I am kind of worried
that what we are getting sucked into,
you know,
the Nebraska.
a contingent of the greater Nashville area
is that we're taking our season
predictions and we're kind of
projecting it onto the game because this is a game
it's not a season. So they can win by
three Saturday or Thursday or whenever it is
it is a night game though and they could
technically come through but then Cincinnati gets the back door like
vulture cover and so we're out money
but there's still one and O. I think veteran
dual threat quarterback
Tony White gone is DC
so like you're trying to plug and play there
a little bit younger D but like you said
Secondary should be good.
I think you may end up needing outscore them,
at which point the most underrated part of this Nebraska roster comes through,
and that's the wide receiver room.
Because outside of you, no one's talking about Nebraska wide receivers.
And I think the Nebraska wide receiver room,
even if Sensey has an uncomfortable number, 24, 27 on the board,
I think Nebraska can find 34.
So I like Nebraska to win it, and cover.
I like all the things both of you guys said.
Talk to him, Josh.
One thing I disagree with is this is not a game.
this is the season. This is every, every, like, since Matt Rule came here, since Matt Rule came here,
it's been like, don't worry about year one, don't even look at year two, year three is the time it's
going to happen. You're going to say must win? A quarterback that ends up flipping. This game.
Must win. It's a must win. It's a must win. It's a must win game for the Huskers. If we're going
to set the tone and I have to sit on a fucking bus every single year and hear the same comment on,
this is our year. A couple years ago, it was the best three of nine team of all of all time. Last,
Last year you would have thought the big moor, bad mower bowl was the national championship.
Because we lost a lot of very close games on the back half of the season.
When we were in position, I am.
I'm Huskers.
I think minus six and a half is disrespectful.
It gets me wondering what do they know in Vegas that we don't know?
What does fans don't know that we don't know?
What do we know that they don't know?
They must cover over 13 and a half here.
I think this is a year.
This is a statement game for Nebraska.
This is Raola's coming out party.
This is when the Nebraska Cornuccar fans final.
go to put their half a night and they finally have something to hang it on.
It was like, we are fucking here.
So after, you know what this show's got the biggest doesn't have?
What?
You're looking at them.
This brain right here that's seeing the field is clear as day right now.
I would love to, like I would love to have this, but this happens every single year, every
single year.
No, no, no, no.
The casual bus and fake and come and pop on, but that's hilarious.
That's, that's all wills.
He really is bought in.
I've seen it.
I've been around it.
I've lived it.
You're my best friend.
I see it every single day, every single day in the fall.
Hustra's get brought up.
This is the reason why it's different this week.
This is the reason why it's different this year.
I agree with you this year.
Every year has been different.
I need Cincinnati. I'm sorry, I need Nebraska to prove it.
I need it.
Every year's been different.
I wasn't singing 10 and 2 college playoff last year, was I?
I think you said 12 and 0 in March.
I think you said 12 and 0 the March before that.
Every year we look at you go,
it's not crazy to think.
We can't win the big time.
this year. You know I'm feeling a little different this year. You know that. You know that. If you know me
as well as you say, you know there's just a different feeling. I understand because there's a real
expectation out there. It's not like a hope. It's a real like, oh, this is something you can grab taste and feel.
You can put your senses on the Nebraska's because this year. If I can just, I'm with it.
If I could just insert something here, the difference this year is that I believe it.
Oh. That's the difference this year. Having said that. That's the way. That's the way.
Yeah, we believe in the brass.
Will is a bunch of papers, right?
Augusta Wynn comes and start flood.
You're the paperweight that's going to hold it down from this pick.
But how about must win on a Thursday night?
Just the must win label thrown on Satterfield Rule.
Do you want to go alt-line?
You know you can go alt-line on this.
You can lay nine and a half.
You can lay 10.
Listen, I will responsibly and personally put in my bet, which I will be moving the line.
But for the fans out there, we want to add the cap of respect.
Responsibility. Smart. It is Thursday of week one. It is Thursday of week one. I mean,
Rule's got a podcast. He's got all these transfer portal guys. He's got your, everyone's saying
Year three met rule, year three. You feel it out of the 40, out of the 44 of the two deep. Over
half is underclassmen. The development and the process is coming into play. Guys are making
guys are going to get their number called on Saturday. You look at that depth chart. There's a lot of
ores that sit around because there's going to be rotations. Nebraska's got a little bit of depth
right now. Here's where I want to see more than anything. The third quarter ends.
Fourth quarter starts, the offense, Nebraska's offense is coming in the field.
Royola is not on there. That's how much you guys are up. Comfortable.
That's what I want. We'd love to see that.
That's when I would sit there wherever you and I are sitting because I know the NFL is weird
rules, but they're staying will probably be sitting in a box somewhere and I'll look at you.
Fanddow's box. Fand those box. I put my hand on your knee and I go, you've done it.
Like this is something we can look at and on Monday we can be like,
Like, this is a real team.
Just, I'll be smiling in your year and so you'll see it anyway.
But the internal part of me, the compliment, the sentence I will love to hear.
The endorsement.
Is you guys look pretty good.
Nothing better.
That's what I want to walk away.
Nothing better.
Because if you look a backdoor cover, it's a tight game, like, I'm thinking the entire flight home.
Yeah, but.
Yeah.
And God forbid, like if Nebraska doesn't cover.
Don't talk like that.
Don't talk like that.
Right.
But this is a show that people are watching.
There's probably 13 Cincinnati.
90 fans that are probably tuning into the show right now.
Yeah, wanting to the sub or not some.
The majority 95% is probably like, when are they going to get to the next game?
We know Will's going Huskers.
Yeah, yeah.
I think, I mean, I don't think there was, were you ever not going to go Huskers in this game?
There was, there was a time where I was driving over this morning that I sought out the alternative
point of view because I legit wanted to know, I called a couple of buddies like, you're
betting Sincey, why?
And they taught me through it and I said, respectfully, you're wrong.
So no, I was never coming off Nebraska.
The same guy that I picked Iowa State last week on.
That's true.
I'm just saying there's a large portion of the, you know,
the viewing contingent that may watch this Friday when the game's already happened.
Imagine that world.
Imagine how we look one way or the other to the Friday crowd.
Yeah.
That's the best thing.
Looking like geniuses or looking like for the most part, idiots.
Because that's when the comments come in.
Yeah.
When someone has the benefit of hindsight on their side.
That's when the flood starts.
And it's usually naked.
It's easy, though.
It's easy to go from the nosebleeds.
Yeah.
We'll be all right.
LSU at Clemson.
Number nine versus number four,
LSU's, uh, Clemson has favored.
by three and a half.
The over under on this game is 57 and a half.
I feel like there, you know,
I feel like there's a couple different sides
in this conversation.
Yeah.
At least two.
Yeah, there might be.
Listen, Clemson, Davos, been there since 2008.
They've got a lot of their returning starters
having their entire offensive line comes back.
They got a nasty defense with a lot of depth.
They got T.J. Parker and Peter Woods.
A couple guys that can wreak some havoc on the defensive line.
they you look at this and you say well LSU's lost they haven't won a home opener since 2019
Brian Kelly's 0 and 3 in his home openers you look at the history and you would say this is a game
that looks like it's going to go Clemson especially in Death Valley you talked about a lot of
great points to say Clemson I know but that's what I'm that's what I'm getting at now we start
to flip the script a little bit we talk about Garrett Nussmeyer this cat is but he is a guy that was
NFL, the most NFL ready college quarterback.
Every year he tends to get a little bit better and better.
He's a guy from Louisiana.
He bleeds, you know, what is it, purple and gold?
Bleeds purple and gold.
They go out, they get Byron Brown from Kentucky and Nick Anderson from Oklahoma.
They look at their defense.
It was abysmal two years ago.
Last year they get a little bit better.
Now they finally got West Weeks back who had an ankle injury.
Love those Weeks Brothers.
Weeks Brothers crush.
Something about them white linebackers.
They got a couple of transfers.
They got two D&JN.
transfers, one from Florida State, one from Florida.
But the big one here is Harold Perkins,
Harold Perkins Jr. He's now wearing number seven for LSU.
He's a cat that can roll around and cause crazy havoc.
He tore his ACL versus UCLA last year.
This is the year that Brian Kelly has to get over the hump.
We talked about it in our futures, how they're like sitting in that third,
fourth, and Vandals future about winning the SEC.
Something's got to give.
Brian Kelly, his personality and LSU's culture personality,
they don't necessarily mix.
This is the year we're going to find out if he's the guy for the job.
I think this year they flip the script.
I think they go in to Clemson.
They finally get that monkey off their back about winning or losing their first game.
I like LSU here.
I mean, the biggest question marked to me is LSU's offensive line.
They lose two guys to the draft.
One guy goes fourth overall.
They're left tackle to the Patriots.
But at the end of the day, I think the star power,
I think that what they did, the transfer portal after Bryce Underwood,
decommitted from LSU and went to Michigan.
A lot of money started flying.
into LSU we got to figure out what the guys we're going to get I think this is the year the
LSU flips it deep breath so give it like a Lee Corsoism to him well the first thing I will
inform you is you mentioned Harold Perkins are you aware of what they're doing positionally with him
he's he's like the honey badger a little bit right yeah except that he's twice his size and so
they're playing him at like a star type position so you may see Harold Perkins do some wild stuff
this year and against Clemson.
You mentioned the offensive line,
completely agree with you.
This is the fundamental disagreement
I've had with LSU fans.
I put him at 8 and 4.
And that's, of course, crazy.
And I'm told that it's crazy
because they portled in a new secondary,
which I'll get to in a second,
but that their offensive line's going to be okay.
Okay, if their offensive line's okay,
we don't have to wait.
They don't play three tune-up games.
So they're going into one of the toughest environments
they'll play in all year.
I don't believe they're settled yet.
So to be very clear,
my pick is based
on the fact that I don't know that they'll have any semblance of balance Saturday night
because they didn't run the ball well last year. Joe Brady, I actually love the dude,
but he has not called an offense where the rushing statistics were outside the 100s.
And that's an unfair position to put Garrett Nussmeyer in.
Like my whole question, I wrote it down this piece of paper.
What does that less you require Gary Nussmeier to do?
Because if they require him to perform well, first and 10, second, five, third and two,
and they stay on schedule and he's looking to check down and he's got a complimentary tailback
tandem in the back field, and he's just,
He's just asked to make good decisions.
He can do that.
What he can't do is third and seven all night.
And that's what they asked him to do too much last year.
So I had, I think, 12 picks last year.
So I look at that and I say, if I don't fully believe in the offensive line yet,
and I do think Clemson's got NFL guys all three levels, I lean Clemson.
My one hang up with Clemson is last year, top 20, explosive offense.
They had nine games where they had five plus explosive plays.
But it didn't happen against the SEC teams.
in the three games against SEC teams,
they were 14 of 40 on third down.
So if they get past that,
like if they're really improved
and they do got a wide receiver stable
that I appreciate and I respect,
if they do have that,
I think over four quarters,
they affect Nussmeyer enough
to where they force the mistakes
that LSU's been so prone to in openers,
haven't won an opener, period, since 2019.
I think that's going to continue here.
So I'm taking Clemson, actually laying the three and a half.
I'm Clemson.
I'm Clemson.
You guys have talked about the O line.
It's like they lose four guys on their offensive line.
Last year it wasn't that great of an O line.
You got two guys that get drafted.
And it's like this is an O line last year, the talent that they had,
that they should have been in a conversation for like the Joe Moore Award type of talent.
This year, you already mentioned the two guys, T.J. Parker and Peter Woods.
Peter Woods is like a projected top 10 pick as a detackle.
You got T.J. Parker, first round protection coming off the edge projection coming off
the edge and you look at LSU's line they have two sophomores a freshman and two transfers going
against a veteran group in Clemson they got they're returning basically everybody on offense I like
club nick more than I do Nussmeyer I like dab on more than I do Brian Kelly and it's like the difference
with me of like is LSU going to show up this year versus you know the formula is there for
Clemson it's like there's a saying if you like something you pick it if you love something you
water it. I feel like at LSU, they've been trying to fill holes with picking transfers and everything
else. You look at Clemson, Dabo, he was getting punished for it a couple years back of not really
utilizing the porno. He's grown his entire team and they bring back everybody this year. Yes, I think
they're in a weak conference with the ACC, but I do think they beat teams like LSU. I think they're
very good this year. I think Klubnick's going to be really good this year. I like the talent that they
have you alluded to their wide receivers. They got like a three-headed monster. They have all the pieces.
They have a very good defensive unit, and I think they take Clemson,
or I think they take LSU down in Clemson.
Your boy is going Clemson.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Two on one.
Think about the O-Line, bro.
Think about, like, you got...
No, I'm with...
I wrote down on my piece paper, the question mark is the offensive line.
For sure.
Can you handle the veteran defense line of Clemson?
Imagine trying to figure that out on the road.
And you just, like, you put yourself in them rooms.
Like, you're confident.
You're trying to instill confidence.
Like, maybe it's coming from one of the transters.
Maybe it's a second-year sophomore guy that's trying to instill a little.
little bit of confidence. But there's there's a couple in there that know the T.J. Parker,
the D-Tackle that I alluded to, like those freaks of nature, you got Sammy Woods at the second
level. Like, they have elite type players that are going to fuck up this young offensive line,
especially, I think, in the second half. So that's why I got. I just think the mentality there,
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Josh, let you have the floor.
Man, this is a Sunday night game, so it's standalone, so the whole world gets to see it.
I think there's going to be a lot of focus on quarterback for both sides.
You got Carson Beck.
Like I always picture, a lot of people are going to watch this.
Some people are just coming back to.
the college football table, they've been gone since January.
And they're probably going to be surprised to learn Carson Beck plays from Miami now.
You were asking me earlier today, we were talking about Nussmeyer, and you were saying,
hey, give me an example of a guy who was expected to just continue to elevate and it flatline.
Carson Beck, that's a really good one.
This time last year, he's sure if our first round pick, Heisman favorite at Georgia,
favorite to win the national title, none of that happens, he's gone.
So you've got a good redemption story potentially set up here.
He's got probably the best offensive coordinator in the ACC, I think, in Shannon Doss.
trying to replace their top half-dozen pass catchers at Miami.
So that's not how they win this game.
The way they win this game is they have recruited and developed monsters on the offensive line for three years now.
They've got multiple NFL guys across the front.
I went down there and Washington practice last year.
Everyone's talking about Francis Malgoa.
And Mario says, look at this dude over here, 70.
It's Markell Bell.
He came from Juko in Mississippi.
He's like 6-8-360 at that point.
He said, you'll know.
know him next year. And sure enough, he's projected to be, I think they're starting
to left tackle this year. My point is, for all the attrition from 50,000 feet, I'm looking
specifically at Notre Dame's defensive front. If there's a solid edge that Miami has here,
which I think they do over four quarters, it is run in between the tackles. As a tail as old as time,
Mark Fletcher, Jordan Lyle, specifically Fletcher are a couple of guys at tailback that if Miami wins,
that's the name you circle. That's the one that ended up being ridden for
25, 26 carries, 208 yards, something like that.
You think, man, that's against Notre Dame?
Yeah, I know it's eye-opening, but that's what's going to have to happen.
Because at that point, if you do that, I can more than trust Carson Beck to make good decisions
complementary to a ground game.
He didn't have a ground game at Georgia last year.
He didn't have guys catching the ball for him last year.
So it's not like you forgot how to play the position.
If he gets that, and then conversely, you've got a first-time starter going on the road in C.J. Carr,
I think Notre Dame's receiving room is incredibly under.
rated, I don't know that its potential will be reached here because the other thing about
Miami's secondary is it sucked last year so bad that they completely overhauled it.
Talked someone down there last week. They said, we low-key think this could be a strength
of our team this year. So we feel plenty of good enough about it to go to war with it. I think Miami's
going to win the game outright. But that's what a coach would tell you about the secondary.
Luckily. No coaches, you're not going to walk into a coach who's office. Luckily. You're right.
That's why I don't talk to coaches about it. So you like the idea of Miami having an overhaul of
transfers into their secondary and be like, okay, that's going to gel.
But you look at LSU and their transfer portal and how much they've done.
And you're like, I'm not so sold on that.
Well, the difference is I'm looking at C.J.
Carr trying to throw against Miami's guys on the road versus looking at Kade Klubnick
throwing against LSU's guys at home.
So there's a little different gap in experience level there.
Different gap, but C.J. Carr has been throwing against the number one past
defense in the country coming out of 2024.
C.J. Carr has been throwing against the number one defense when it comes to
takeaways.
in 2024. I like Notre Dame here. This is my iPad game. Oh, wow. This is my iPad game.
Because Miami to me, you get excited about Miami because number one, it's Miami. You got the
you. You got the documentaries that have come out. They've gotten a little better each year.
But again, they were the number one offense in the country last year. But the majority,
a lot of that offense is now here in Nashville, Tennessee with Cam Ward. And we think all of a sudden
Carson Beck is going to be the guy that gets them over the hump. I agree with you on the O line.
They returned four out of their five guys.
They got this cat from Holmes Community College.
Markell Bell.
He's 6-9-340 unit, built like a submarine.
But Miami's been the team.
Miami's been the team where it's like, you know, you've got the dog that barks at the gate,
but the minute you step in the gate, they don't bite you.
Oh, wow.
I feel like that's what Miami has been because they have talent.
I don't doubt that they're going to have talent at the skill position.
It's Miami.
They're always going to have talent.
But I think when you compare both the offense of Miami, compared to the offense of Notre Dame,
what I also like about Notre Dame, what is something that they did really well and was top
10 of the country last year, running the football.
They returned four guys that have starting experience on that old line.
The new face is at right guard, not on the edge, not a tackle, it's a right guard.
It's a freshman.
Keep him in a phone booth.
Yeah, it's a freshman name, Gerby Leonard.
He's six, this boy is six seven, three 35, at right guard.
going on this offensive line, that can run the football really well.
And you already alluded to how good and criminally underrated their wide receiver unit is.
And you got your Heisman favorite, Jeremiah Love running the ball of the backfield.
And this is a steady operation.
This isn't, you know, we've hit the portal.
One of the fancy words that come out of every year now with all these different teams is we've revamped the room.
We've overhauled the room.
Not Notre Dame.
These are top five recruiting classes year in and year out because it starts with Marcus Freeman in the operation.
He's built since he got announced as a head coach in that weight room and everybody went absolutely berserk.
Then you go on defense.
Again, the number one past defense in the country last year.
They returned five out of their seven on the back end.
You lose Xavier Woods.
But is his name, Jeremiah Moore?
Jeremiah Moore, an up-and-comber quarterback who supposedly he's set up to be the next star filling in for Xavier Woods who got drafted last year.
But they returned five out of their back seven.
They returned seven out of 11 of that elite defense that they had.
last year. They got guys up front. I agree with you when it comes to Miami's offensive line.
But when you look at Carson Beck and the teams he played last year and when he performed,
this is a guy who can turn the ball over. He's also a guy who can have a nice looking stat record.
But when you look at who he played, when he's playing Massachusetts, Tennessee Tech, Georgia Tech,
Auburn, Tennessee was the one where he played against a solid defense, 18 touchdown, zero
interceptions. But when you're playing against quality defenses in Texas, Alabama, Florida,
to Ole Miss. Even Mississippi State, Kentucky, where he put up goose eggs across the board,
12 touchdowns, 18 turnovers. Carson Beck isn't even close to the player that Cam Ward is.
And I think against an elite level past defense that Notre Dame has, I like Notre Dame. I love
Notre Dame. This is my iPad game. This is the game I see as clear as day. I'm talking baptism
under the water. Give him a rosary on the way home type of baptism. I love Notre Dame in this
pick. There's not a whole lot you can say more, say more than that. I got some stuff I want to say.
That's pretty incredible.
I think all the things he said about Carson Beck,
he loses the spring because he has the UCL, the Tommy Johns,
whatever that is.
Their defense was a slow start and extremely inconsistent all last year.
That's Miami for you.
To think that they're going to be that much better is a little wild.
I think when you look at Mike Denbrock, what does you want to do?
He obviously knows he's going to have a strong run game for all the reasons you said,
my heisman pig, Jeremy.
But you go and get a couple of wide receivers.
And then you have CJ Carr sitting there who's going against the best past defense in all of college football.
He's the grandson of Lloyd Carr, legendary Michigan football coach.
Connecting the dots.
It's in his blood.
He's done it day in and day out for his entire life.
He is welcoming this opportunity.
I think not only you're going to see a strong run game from Notre Dame,
but I can see Denbrock getting the boys spread out a little bit,
take love, put them in the slot,
have them in those third and manageable type of situations.
And any time you want to be successful in football
and you're going away to a place that can, may or may not be,
a loud environment, you got to pack a defense, you got to pack a run game.
Those are the two things you got to put in your lunchbox, and those are the two things that
Notre Dame has.
Defeits and run game.
And by the way, it was Leonard Moore for the Notre Dame Irish on either tapping in.
That's a big saying by you.
I like C.J. Carr, I like C.J. Carr, I like C.J. Cardout, Duke Carson Beck in this game.
I think he's going to have a nice deal.
That's a headline.
That's a headline.
That's a headline.
Well, look at the, look what's happening.
All the stats you said about Georgia. He leaves Georgia for what reason.
Sounds like because he got a little two in love.
He didn't keep the main thing, the main thing, and cash.
Like, you got money and you got girls, two things that'll take out your foundation.
Yeah.
He's on your podium.
He's got a chain on him with a turtleneck.
He's in Miami.
Like, he fits the mold of Miami a little bit more.
He doesn't have the team to back him up.
CJ Carr's got better pieces around him.
I think he's got a stronger coaching staff around him.
He's not only going to have a hand the ball for a world to love, but he's going to get guys outside.
He's going to have a couple of nice places to make him go.
hey this kid who's this kid and they're going to watch the locker room go oh shit i know he's
the grandson of lloyd car oh this kid he's got in his he's got to take care of the football i trust
that his arm is probably better it's not it would be hard to beat riley leonard and throwing the ball around
but he's got to take care of the football and operate the same way like riley did a very good job
at that i do want to challenge one thing on the defensive the overhaul of uh of mainly the secondary
they got six portal guys that came in that are playing defense on the back in they're back five
They're five in the secondary.
Four out of the five are transfers.
And three out of those five in the secondary are also sophomores.
So I don't doubt that they're that they're very athletic.
They got some youth, which could be a positive, but they're also very inexperienced.
And they're going to be working together for the first time.
Again, the word overhaul and revamp, they might, the talent level might be there.
But I'm interested to see this unit perform again with a lot of new faces and a lot of youth.
So you mentioned Beck last year, how it's performing?
level didn't scale, which you were right about, probably a lot to do with their O-Line getting
caved at Georgia, which it did several times last year, against your Texas's of the world and leading
the league by a mile in drops. So I would counter with your Notre Dame run game. No one needs to
sell me on Notre Dame's offensive line. I watched a million of them get hurt last year and
performance level never dropped. Just incredible job developing and coaching. I watched the tailbacks.
No one needs to sell me on the tailbacks. I would tell you in the interest,
of, you know, exploring scalability of performance against the better teams.
They played Ohio State, Georgia, Penn State last year,
and yards per carry dropped to four yards, a little under four yards per game.
So, if Miami is what I think they could be defensively,
then maybe that ground game doesn't click,
and maybe you've got to lean on a guy who did not lock down the starting quarterback
position until about a week and a half ago in camp
a little more than you thought you'd have to lean on it in week one.
That's actually how I think the game's going to go.
That's why I lean Miami.
I like it.
You're talking about bow constrictor.
Miami will be a little bow constrictor on that run game.
A little bit.
It's going to be a fun game.
It's just if I'm thinking about where I'm going to put my coin in the Fandale's
sports book, it's like you got crystal ball.
He's went, what, 5 and 7, 7 and 5, 10 and 3.
This is fair.
The staff versus staff is fair.
Yeah, staff.
And then you got Freeman, who's went, what, 9 and 4, 10 and 3, and then 14 and 2 coming
off a national title run.
Like the operation over at Notre Dame, even though a quarterback won a job a couple
weeks ago, just feeling like how that culture is operating.
You mentioned the old line.
Like a lot of guys getting hurt, the talent, not diminishing.
This is a veteran group this year,
and the crazy thing about the veteran group is nobody's a senior.
So they develop, they build that old line.
It'll be fun, though.
It'll be fun.
Yeah, it'll be fun game.
So you're Miami.
I am Miami.
Notre Dame.
Notre Dame.
Love it.
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Alabama Florida State.
Alabama at Florida State.
Alabama's favored by 13 and a half.
The over under on points here is 50 and a half.
You have to stay on this one very long?
So I assume everyone's going Bama.
Yeah.
Are you going Bama to, is everyone going Bama to cover?
That's my, my gut tells me yes.
The thing that I'm curious about with FDUESA,
Florida State because they just dropped off last year. They did a massive overhaul. They thought
they revamped the talent room and everything else. They're kind of doing the same thing this year.
What I'm curious about, Tony White, Terrence Knighton, and there was another coach too, left Nebraska.
They go to Florida State. I believe the special teams coordinator there still. Yeah,
special teams coordinator there, John Papooges. What was Jean Papooges doing in 2012?
What was he doing? The defensive coordinator at the University of
in Nebraska. So I got some cats down there where I'm curious how this Florida State team is going
to be. I feel like people got them out of absolutely everything. I think they're going to be a lot
better than people anticipate. But as far as answer the question on the 13 and a half, am I confident
enough to go Alabama 13 and a half here? I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it because of your
monologue on Alabama last week and the talent and the depth and I am a massive fan of DeBore.
I think Ty Simpson's going to be good. And they got frequent.
everywhere and I think they're poised and pissed off and ready to go coming out of this year
because you end the season losing the Michigan last year and again I think it's just the
mentality is going to be coming out of the gate setting the tone because they're not in a position
of people have them as favorites everywhere like for the season but I don't think they do in the
building and I think they're going to be looking to approval point coming out against
Florida State so I'm going to take a minus 13 and a half but I'm very curious to see how
Tony White turns around that defense because he can do it fast yeah Alabama will
we went there for the spring practices they were talking about how much more relaxed
kailan de bore was compared to compared to next seven you can see there all their shoulders
kind of out there's music being played you're allowed to keep your shirt untuck there was a whole
lot of a lot of looseness it's kind of like when you give an inch you take a mile you mean last
year right this is last year this is last year this year I think they have they have that chip on
their shoulder the way they ended the season it's not it's not what they want you look at
florida state Florida state 2023 they go 13 and no they end up not making the play
because their quarterback breaks his leg they take them out they're real mad they have a lot
They have a lot of guys transfers, so they bring a lot of new players in.
It's a whole new roster in 2024.
They go 2 and 10 the next year.
Same thing has kind of happened.
There's been 23 transfers that have come into Florida State.
One of those transfers is Tommy Gasolanos.
Gassianos?
Stick with it.
Stick with it.
Casinos.
Boston College.
He was at Boston College with Bill O'Brien.
They wanted to run the postal offense.
This kid's more of a backyard football type of guy who wants to run around.
a lot. A Mousin guy. Yeah, a Mouson guy. Exactly. He gets benched at Boston College. It ends up transferring
to Florida State. And if you have so many pieces, you have 23 new pieces across your team.
Mousin, who is a guy who wants to, he wants to play a little backyard football. He wants to call
a game like that. They're not going to have the joint points at this early. I think Alabama is
a stronger team from a talent standpoint. They have more continuity. They have the same feeling of what
they had last year being like, obviously that wasn't up to the Alabama standard. They lost.
as many games that last year as they did in nick saven's first year what happened in nick saven's
second year they go to the national championship game so i i expect to see a big turnaround from alabama
being just clear and concise uh you know on special teams offense and defense i think they they cover
this game i don't think it's close i agree with you i agree with you what i like to do on our show
when there's a favorite of double digits and everyone's on one side at least ask could the upset happen
Is there an outside, like, greater than 5% chance it could happen?
I would say, yeah, lines 13 and a half at Fanduil.
Upset could happen.
Vandy happened last year, so an upset could happen.
My question is always, how would that happen?
If you were to turn this game on and it was a dogfight in the fourth quarter,
probably what has happened is Florida State has duplicated the Vandy plan.
The Vandy plan was finding out early,
Bama's struggling with a mobile quarterback.
Bama struggling with option stuff.
We went 12 of 18 against them on 3rd.
third down. Wow, if we stay on the field, they can't have the ball. Malzahn knows Alabama
intimately got a long history with him. Kane Womack, who is Bama's D.C., coached for
Malzahn in high school up in Arkansas. So I think if Castiano, who is the transferer here,
talked a lot in the summer, if he just throws caution to the win, and frankly, I think they're
going to ask him to do some stuff Saturday that you can't ask a guy to do every week because
he's going to get beat to death. But in a one-game scenario, like you talked all springing,
summer, everywhere there was a microphone. He talked. If I'm Malzan, I look at him and I say,
did you mean it? He's going to say, yeah. And I'm going to look back at him and say, all right,
well, I need you to put your face really, really, really in the fan Saturday, because that's
the only shot we got. If that kind of stuff happens, if anything like the Vandy mobile quarterback
given Bama trouble, huge conversion rate on third down type thing happens, and Bama struggles with
turnovers on the road like they did last year, struggles with penalties on the road like they did last
year. They were very schizophrenic on the road last year. If that's still a problem for them,
I don't think it will be, but if that's still a problem for them, that's how it's close.
It took me a long time to say that. The path for Alabama is you line up and you realize
we're that much better than them. And you lean on them and you offensively stay on schedule,
take the crowd out of it, play action games working, run games working, get a lot of wide receivers
involved early. Secondary smothers, Florida State, makes them go on 10 play drives to score,
which they probably can't do. There's just so many.
more ways where Bama's 14 plus point winners here than I think Florida State covering. So I like
Bama to win and cover it. The example you gave of how Alabama can lose is the reason why I think
that they're not going to lose because they're aware of it. They're aware. Yeah. Right. They go into Vandy
last year. Nick Saban right there is like he says on a college game day. The only place that's not
hard to play in the SEC is Vanderbilt. They hear they take a personal pavia does what Pavia can do.
And so now they're no Florida state's looking at being like this is how you beat Alabama. And
Alabama has already identified, like, this is our weak spots, and this is how we can fix it.
I don't think this game is close.
Yeah, I think if you have the Fandual app open, Josh, this is why you're great.
I just want to tell you, I want to give you a compliment.
I appreciate it.
If I had the Fanduil sports book open and I listen to what you just said about how Florida State can make this game interesting in the fourth quarter, and I paused it.
Like, as a guy, and I know there's plenty of brains out there that will latch on any type of optimism, you could have easily sold me on why Florida State would cover him.
potentially win this game. I think that's a great, I think that's a great thing that you do,
is you're able to talk about the other side. And I'm like, yeah, he's making some good points here.
Like, maybe I do get a little spicy and go Florida State plus 13 and a half. I'm not going to.
No, we're not going to. But just the tip of the cap to where you had me for a moment. Like, yeah,
he could be. Then I dropped the, it kind of makes sense.
Then we dropped the yeah, yeah, Pavia, 12 for 18, spicy quarterback doesn't have that.
And you're like, you just line up and say, we're better than you.
I'm like, yeah, that's a good point too.
Yeah, all those stats.
And it's like, they are just better than them.
Well, the problem is what you said about Miami secondary,
Florida State's trying to do with virtually their whole team.
Right.
Against Alabama.
Right.
I truly, I am excited to see how Tony White does.
With that, it's the 335.
Yep.
JP Hovey Game of the Week.
Virginia Tech versus South Carolina.
This game is in Atlanta.
You got Shane Beamer, the head coach of South Carolina.
His father, Frank Beamer.
Like, legendary head coach at Virginia Tech.
They're probably sitting there having a couple of conversations.
I'm sure his dad's, hey, I'm rooting for a son.
I want it.
But there's a piece of him where it's like, hey, this is a win-win for me in a lot of ways.
This is a win-win.
Virginia Tech, Brent Pry under Brent Pry.
They haven't finished in the top 25 since, what, the early 90s?
Since I was in diapers.
Like, they haven't.
You said, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Brent Pry.
They had a run in the 2000s.
No, no, Brent Pry, his stint,
every year he's been the head coach,
they have not finished in the top 25.
That has not happened since I was in diapers.
I'm glad I got an opportunity to land that plan a little bit.
But you look at South Carolina.
Every year, JP and I talked about it on the phone,
they start slow.
They have the tools, they have the pieces.
They got this kid, Rasul Faison,
who up until three days ago,
they didn't know if he was going to be eligible.
They had the same situation of Diego Pavia.
Does the junior count?
Does the community college thing count?
Does it not count?
He's at Utah State.
He runs for 1,300 yards.
Nick Harbor, who was, you know, all-world everything on college football 25 because he was a 99-speed, had a lot of uncharacteristic drops, couldn't run the whole entire route tree.
He decides I'm not going to do track and field during the spring anymore.
I'm going to hang up my track cleats, put my football cleats back on and start refining my game a little bit.
Lenora Sellers, a lot of people are high on it, including yourself.
I believe, is that your Heisman guy?
That is right there along with Mateer.
Right.
That is my one too high-housman guy.
I forgot.
I blocked out when you said Mateer because I was so upset about that.
I think this is a game that every year South Carolina fans get upset about because they don't find a way to like step on their throat.
And this is the perfect game for them to sit in a neutral site location.
The head coach of South Carolina, his dad was the coach of the other team and he's a legend.
He's probably got a statue out there in Virginia Tech.
This is the game that South Carolina finally says, we're here.
We're going to put these pieces together.
Every year, South Carolina has players.
Like every time I got to sit around JP during the football season, it's like, oh, this guy played in South Carolina, that's really.
play and you're like it's pretty incredible how much talent they have there without the success
from a team standpoint shame beamer's a guy man he's a guy i think he he he takes the next step i think
they put their throat on virginia tech in this game put their throat on them i was looking at my um
and just to put out there too with fanduel uh south carolina is favored by seven and a half seven and a
half i think it's a total sucker number that's what i think it is i looked at my own numbers last
night. My own numbers do not agree with what I'm about to say. Like the model I use that we built
that's been so profitable for us over the years screams Virginia Tech plus the points. I just think
it's wrong. It screamed. Screamed it. The model spits out South Carolina minus five, which
differential two and a half points crossing a key number at seven is a really, really big. Yeah,
it's a really big. Listen, I consume your show, Josh. It might be like one off. Never that many.
Two and a half point swing. Yeah. So that's okay because the model's been wrong. It had Oklahoma
number 12 last year like how did that work out this out there in a turmoil like holy shit so every year
week one especially there's a number out there where it's seven and a half uh this is also Cincinnati
ooh only only six and a half why is Nebraska only favored by six and a half you either trust your
preparation and you trust your knowledge of the teams or you don't you can't let the board override
what you've invested six months of your life into learning
What I've learned with South Carolina, and specifically with this matchup, is Virginia Tech got gutted by the portal.
First thing.
Okay, Kyron Drone's big-bodied quarterback, he can run.
I think their tailback room is probably underrated.
And I think they look at South Carolina's front and they look at Dylan Stewart, like, man, Dylan Stewart's a stud.
Could be a net liability in run defense.
That's what separates him and maybe a Colin Simmons.
Colin Simmons is a plus run defender at Texas, whereas Dylan Stewart, maybe that's a little bit of a liability.
Here's the problem. That's where my optimism ends with matchup-wise, what could lean Virginia Tech.
I know everyone thinks Lenora Sellers is really good. Most people think he's great.
I truly don't know how many people have popped on tape of him last year.
Or not tape, just go watch games, go watch YouTube clips to remember how insanely good he is.
Like he took over the Clemson game.
And against this defense, especially if there's wide receiver talent which JP's vouching for,
above just that of Nick Harbor,
Nick with the Y, above just that of Nick Harbor,
if they've got that,
if they've got Faison eligible now,
there are so many things to me that scream South Carolina
that I told you before we hit record.
I'm not looking at it saying,
ooh, they got to cover seven and a half.
I'm looking at it saying,
I can't believe I get South Carolina
only lay in single digits
because I think they're going to win by double digits.
So I'm taking South Carolina to win in cover.
That had to feel good, JP.
And what you said's going to happen.
What you said,
the foot on the throat, they don't do it. The Old Dominion game is still fresh in everyone's mind.
You just sneak by teams. The Bama game, you let it get away. Referees stole the LSU game from you last year.
None of that happens if you don't leave the game in doubt. I don't think South Carolina is going to leave the game in doubt.
So I'll take them to win and cover. Yeah, I agree with all that. I agree with you boys.
The one thing I have a disagreement with is it's feeling like a win-win for Shane Beamer because you watch the any given Saturday documentary of the SEC and you sit there and watch.
Shane in his body language and the words that he's saying about like he wants to carve his own way
outside of his dad's name because Shane he's a Virginia Tech graduate a Hokie Letterman, the son of
Frank Beamer as we all know. This game hasn't happened in 33 years. Frank Beamer coached him in
1991 when they lost to South Carolina 28 to 21. It was Frank Beamer's fifth year as a head coach.
This is now Shane's fifth year as a head coach and I like to me when you look at South
Carolina, this is a team. We got to remember, this is a team nobody wanted to see at the end of the
year last year. My question is, because again, they got a lot of new faces. My question is,
what's the team going to be beyond Lenora Sellers and Dylan Stewart? Because outside of them,
you have two of the best players in the country, but who's going to step up in those other roles?
South Carolina is a team that you're not talking about when you hear the word revamped and overall
and everything else. I think South Carolina
Coach Beamer has a good track record
of developing transfers when they get on campus.
Kyle Conard is a great example.
Is it Demetrius,
JP, Demetius Davis?
Dimitius Knight, linebacker last year.
Those guys are two puzzle pieces that developed as transfers.
Kyle Conard was 15.5
tackles for loss, 11 and a half sacks,
three force fumbles. And that's because
Dylan Stewart is a freak and he's going to get all the
attention. Who's going to step up
this year? Is it going to be
Brian Thomas Jr. on the other side, the D-Tackle transfer out of Alabama.
His name is Monkele Goodwin.
Is he going to step up because he's got a lot of hype of coming out of training camp?
But who's going to step up when Dillon Stewart's taking all the attention?
And then Lenora Sellers, he's a freak.
He's one of the best, if not the best.
He is my highest-man picked to win it this year.
I like South Carolina.
I think they build on the secondary.
They were strong last year in the secondary.
I think they're going to play aggressive.
I think they won't Virginia Tech.
I hate that Virginia Tech has fallen.
the way that they have because in the 2000s with Frank Beamer,
I mean, you can give him Frank Beamer and a block punt in this game,
South Carolina is still going to win.
But the way that the VT Tech logo has just kind of fallen,
I hate it.
This would have been a game that South Carolina back in the day would be circling.
Oh, we got to get this team.
Now I think it's a smiley face.
So I got South Carolina.
I got a minus seven and a half.
I got a minus seven and a half.
I like South Carolina.
I'm excited to see who's going to step up on the defensive side
along with Dylan Stewart.
Well said.
So we're all South Carolina.
We're all South Carolina.
So everybody out there, time to fade the boys.
People are going to say fade.
Really see the curse, the curse.
People are going to say fade.
People are going to look at that and say that that's a square bet.
You're laying seven and a half.
They got you across the key number.
You're going with the big SEC brand.
And I just think you're overthinking the room if you look at it that way.
It's so fundamental.
South Carolina is that much better.
Even if you talk about Virginia Tech, all the transfers,
seven starters transferred out.
They switched, they hired, or they,
fired and hired two new coordinators.
I like,
Pry, is that his name?
Yeah.
I think he's on the hot seat,
but I don't see how this ends well at all for Virginia Tech,
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I thought up something that is like,
is a big deal and I think does play a lot of biases
is the SEC logo.
Sure.
Like the SD logo versus the ACC logo.
It's like, oh, you just assume that the SEC is going to win every single time.
And that's where I had trouble with this game, Auburn, at Baylor.
Because you got Hugh Freeze, who's on the hot seat right now.
You got Jackson Arnold.
I'm with you, bro.
Who gets laughed out of Oklahoma.
And every, like, when I went to Google, Jackson Arnold, what's going on with him?
It's like, everything is about what's his confidence like?
How is he's going to get back?
We've seen the highest of highs and the lowest of lows.
was like, what is this guy going to be?
And then you got a head coach,
he probably has a piece of anxiety himself
where he's got to go see his therapies.
He's got to sit down there cross-sling and say,
I'm having a tough time too
because everyone's saying,
get me the hell out of Auburn.
And then you look at them and it's like,
yeah, they have a running back,
Sawyer Robinson, he can run the ball a little bit.
They have an underrated Bryson, Washington,
who rushed for over a thousand yards last year in Baylor.
Like, you see kind of how Baylor can win the game
and that's keeping it in third and manageable,
running the ball, being successful that way,
using the RPO.
Blackout in Waco.
crowd's going to be live.
But then you got Auburn who has an outstanding wide receiver room.
You have a guy who has an extremely high ceiling
but had extremely low lows at the quarterback position.
And a coach that's like, you know, is he confident himself?
So you're dealing with confidence issues.
I think me personally, and I love to get more like a dialed an opinion of what you think.
But like when I look at Auburn, I think the game is what do your top 15 plays look like?
Because you have an extremely good wide receiver room.
you've got a good defense
or you have starters coming back
in all areas,
defense line,
linebacker and your secondary.
Your wide receiver room
is really impressive.
Can you get Jackson Arnold
to start develop
a little in-game confidence
very, very early?
And that's with high percentage throws.
That's your bubbles.
That's your checkdowns.
And then you got Coleman on the outside.
Maybe that fourth, fifth, or six play,
you go and throw avert
and just see if you can get him a back shoulder
just to feel out that confidence.
Because if Jackson can get confident,
I can see Auburn running away with this thing.
But I can also see Baylor controlling the clock, playing good defense, and really-
They were turning a lot of production from last year, a lot of guys.
I like Sawyer-Robertson.
Sawyer-Roberson's kind of nasty.
And I love the head coach.
Remind me his name?
Dave Aranda.
I love Dave Aranda, him going on the press conference last year talking about the scene
from Wolfram Wall Street.
You know what I'm talking about?
Beautiful.
Beautiful moment.
In American history, not Baylor history.
Yeah, in American history.
Just comparing recruiting to throw him midges.
on the wall.
Didn't even go little people.
Didn't even go little people.
Just get right over.
You say midget?
I didn't see the clip, so it kind of fires me up though.
Make him feel like they belong.
They don't want you thinking you're laughing at him.
He's like, that's kind of, you know, that's recruiting.
I got Sherm pacing in the back.
He's got a cut off Baylor, Baylor.
Baylor, what was it?
We pair of players.
Oh, yeah.
And he's got the backwards ad.
He's got the, and it's just like, I want to go Baylor for Sherm.
but I just feel like it's Auburn.
I feel like it's Auburn.
I'll let you go because I know you got a solid little breakdown of Auburn
and how this game could play out.
When I looked at in the spring,
you know how you know what the games are going to be week one
and you know you haven't broken the game down.
But you just think, I'm probably going to go Baylor in that one.
That's what I thought in the spring.
That's what I thought in the summer.
I got not glowing returns out of Auburn spring ball
about Jackson Arnold.
It didn't sound great the early portions of fall camp.
Very, very hit and miss, which, by the way, I expect it to be early.
I've looked at this as get in there, crawl over broken glass if you have to,
get the wind, get out, regroup and get ready for conference play down the road.
I don't think there's a choice where they pull away.
I think it's Auburn when somehow some way, best case scenario, it's a dog fight for him.
The more I looked at it, the more I said, which two units have takeover potential?
If there is takeover in this game, and it ended up being Auburn's O line, which is the most underrated part of their team, and wide receiver, gives them an opportunity.
Now, I got such low confidence in that because I have low confidence in Jackson Arnold.
That's a turnover prone player.
Freeze his system is turnover prone throughout his career, even when he was good at Ole Miss.
They turned the ball over at a rate that was higher than any other successful team.
They turned it over chronically last year.
So there's low confidence in this.
this, the way if I try and close the eyes and envision the game going is, all right, neither
sides have a ton of success or either both sides are having a ton of success, but neither is
pulling away. Auburn has such a good receiver room that when all else fails, you can
throw it up to guys. And I really think when you watch Auburn, if they win, which I think
they will, I'm going to go Auburn to win the game very narrowly. I think it's going to be a whole
lot more, just throw it up and let freaks make plays. And you watch it and you say, there's no design
behind this, that's just better athletes winning. That's actually why I think they're going to win.
They're going to take better athletes into Waco. It won't so much be they're going to scheme
them to death. They're going to out-athlet them just enough to get out-of-there with a win.
You're still going to have questions about Auburn. You're still going to find yourself saying they're
not going to be able to win in the SEC like that. And then Auburn's going to say,
that's okay because maybe we'll be better than this by the time we get to conference play.
We got the win. Now, if the opposite were to happen, it's a nightmare for Hugh Freed.
I'm just telling you.
Is there a chance he doesn't have a job?
There's a chance that that begins the terminal, like, trajectory towards him not having a job.
That is a place I know very well, and that is a place that needs this game very badly.
Are you going to be the one that puts Sturm on his back, on your back?
I want to, badly.
I want to sit there and look at Payton, like, not so fast, my friend, and talk about the Baylor Bears in a way of returning all that productive.
returning a team that is very excited to open their season on a Friday night. We're talking
Friday night lights. Blackout in Waco, Texas. Could be a blackout on YouTube TV. Could be a blackout on
YouTube TV. A lot of excitement because Baylor, Baylor's a contender for the Big 12.
I'm with you. I agree on the talent. Killed the fly. You got it? Yeah, I got him. No, you
didn't. There he is. Yeah, that's a liar. Oh, I'm looking for a body. He was on the bus.
I got no body over here. Never mind.
I saw him flying around.
I kind of wanted to hit a...
But just something tells me.
I know the state model can't predict turnovers.
But something just tells me you're going to try and establish the run
and protect Mr. Jackson Arnold.
But all you need is one turnover early.
Yep.
For that place to get rocking.
Yep.
For them to feel just a little bit of confidence.
I know we can't predict turnovers,
but the whole close your eyes thing,
I can see it happen.
And it juices up a sideline.
It rallies the troops and it puts just that little bit of pressure.
It's like Jackson, oh, yeah, he's got a high ceiling.
You talk about all the mental, where is he at mentally?
But what happens to that team when they get hit in the mouth?
What happens when, not even hit in the mouth, but one bad thing happens.
You turn the ball over, Baylor goes down the score.
This is a game I want to reach in it and I want to take the underdog.
I want to take Auburn and that's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to ride with the Baylor Bears and also who I want to cement this is not,
this is nacho man Randy Savage coming from the back end. We got our Baylor Bear. We got Sherman
Young. You say I want to reach in. He did. Take Auburn and that's what I'm going to do. I'm taking
the Baylor Bears. He sure did. He sure did. I said, holy shit. I'm taking Baylor. I want to reach
out. I want to take Baylor. Everything says Auburn is the better football team, but I'm going to,
I'm going with that turnover early in the game. Let me tell you one. And I like the same. And I like
speed on the outside of the other.
Dude, you're starting.
Are you sold?
He's starting to sell me like...
Are you leaning?
Do we need the last bit of tip right in?
Just like, have you read about
there's new slot receiver, Fondell?
Bro, they got some talent
on the outside.
Reach in and Fondell.
Yeah.
You know what Fondel?
I just wanted to say Fondell really slowly
would reach in. That's all I wanted to do.
Hey, let me tell you something.
Speaking of uncomfortability
at million a day.
Go ahead, Jaylor?
No.
Make our new guests feel uncomfortable.
No, he knew what was coming.
Oh, he knew?
He knew what was coming.
But I forgot.
Make our new guests feel uncomfortable.
I'm going to reach my hand in the cookie jar.
Get Josh Payton.
He's like, I'm going to get Will Compton.
He was this close.
I know.
He was this close to take it.
Did you bite?
You just bit on that?
I was going to bite in a different way, though.
He kind of bit.
He kind of bit because you said on it.
Will's head turned like this and you say Fondon.
He just slowly looks at me.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
That's your one, Josh.
I forgot what I was going to say.
Next week, if I get you, I get you.
You're probably going to talk about the speed.
No, no, no, I was going to tell you this.
So you said what a turnover would do,
and you said what it would do mentally to Jackson Arnold,
Freeze was at media days and told us that he had instructed his defensive coaches
to allow practice to end on a positive note for his offense and his quarterback.
That's how they had scripted practice during fall camp.
Can I say one thing?
Give me Baylor Bears.
Hearing that.
Give me Baylor Bears because I cannot.
I can't have that.
When I'm looking at Jackson Northern,
I'm seeing all the articles.
Where's his confidence out?
How is he?
Mentosy, blah, blah.
A lot of people are saying,
you've got to worry about this kid
if he gets his confidence back.
It's real.
The fact that the head coach is saying,
it's real.
We have to finish practice
on a positive note
for this kid's mentals.
I get, I'm all about,
I'm all about people taking care of themselves mentally.
This game doesn't care about your fear.
It does not care about feelings.
I know damn well.
Everybody in Waco, Texas doesn't give a fuck about Jackson Arnold feelings.
Give me the Baylor Bears.
I'm flipping.
I'm flipping.
Come on, Sherman.
How are you feeling?
The nacho man, Randy Savage.
Let me get that mic, brother.
Oh my God.
Pate Staters, welcome to the show.
Talk to me.
Speaking of Pate Staters,
I'm here with the commissioner of college football.
Josh Pate.
He's picking the Auburn Tigers this Friday night
when they go up against those Baylor Bears.
Down in Waco, Texas, Auburn Tigers,
cup of coffee.
Not going to let it slip through my fingers.
You know why?
Because the Baylor Bears are the cream that will rise to the top.
If we're talking about Jackson Arnold
than making them comfortable,
Dave Miranda's got blitzes more exotic than the Amazon River, Josh Payne.
He's going to be getting in that kid's face all night.
But let's not talking about what's going on on the field.
Let's talk about what's going on in the crowd.
We got a blackout on the Brazos.
We got the chrome domes dripping gold all night.
And if you freeze wants a boat race by God, we're built on the Brazis.
And a boat race, it will be.
57 and a half is the over under correct me behind the computer if I'm wrong
smash the over
Baylor ain't going underneath 35 points all night
and I'll tell you one last thing
I love that you're talking about my coach
Dave oranda because the cream
the cream Taylor rises to the top
Dave or Randa's put six or seven head coaches into a coffin
and threw a casket.
Lincoln Riley came to Waco when he was coaching the Sooners
and he beat that ass so bad.
He ran off to the Pac-12.
Steve Sarkeesian came in.
Lost to Dave Aranda.
Mike Gundy in the Big 12 championship.
Dave Aranda's got a body count.
You know who's on that body count?
Tell us.
2016.
Head coach of Ole Miss.
You freeze.
Who's the defensive coordinator at LSU?
that kept them to 21 points.
This guy knows what he's doing.
He knows what's coming in there,
and the Baylor Bears are going to be walking out with the W
because the cream rises to the top.
Thank you, Nacho Man.
Does that, thank you.
Does that change your mind at all?
Yeah, well, it changes in my mind.
I'm definitely going to drink this cream.
You know, the game they beat Lincoln when he was at O.U.
Was so great.
Sherim, you remember this?
you stormed the field twice.
Twice.
They stormed the field twice.
I was on the field.
I know they stormed the field twice.
It does not change my mind.
But I'm in love with you.
I'm in love with everything that just happened.
Yeah.
I thought Sherman was going to have a heart attack halfway through.
Honestly.
He's like fucking,
the cream will rise to the top.
Good slate of games.
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Texas at Ohio State.
The Heisman favorite, Arch Manning,
takes on the defending national champions Ohio State.
Ohio State is favored at home,
minus two and a half.
The over-under on this game is 47.5.
Gentlemen?
Can I go on record saying,
I want Ohio State to win this game?
You, Portnoy, everybody does.
I want Ohio State to win this game.
I do.
I just look at the turnover at the O.C. and D.C.
I like Brian Hartline, actually.
lot. He not only is he a great recruiter, but friend of the show. Friend of the show.
Best swag in America on game. Best swag in America. Guy looks absolutely fantastic. I think he'll do a
great job. And plus he has aliens all over Ohio State's offense. Matt Patricia, I'm not, I don't want to
be disrespectful. I'm not like completely sold on him. Like, I know he was big time at the Patriots,
but then he kind of jumped all over the place. I didn't really see a whole big jump from him.
I look at Texas. The question mark there is their offensive line. They have a, they're putting a bunch of
new guys in there, but they have an elite secondary.
They have a kid that's been all world everything, a manning that can run.
Who would have thought that concoction even existed?
He's a Heisman front-winning candidate.
I think Texas is like a vampire going to sleep, man.
And the Ohio State put them to bed.
It's not a casket.
Body bag.
No, what do a vampire sleeping?
Not a casket.
Coffin.
Coffin these nuts, dude.
All right.
Listen, I think Texas loses to a,
Ohio State after a team that had an complete incredible.
Cough in?
Cough in these.
He didn't break stride.
He never broke trying.
He was trying so hard, dude.
The Baster, six and a half.
The basket six and a half.
Ohio State lost their entire defense, except for one.
Cough in.
Cough in these nuts.
Dude, you got got.
You got to fuck up.
He's thinking random words.
What are you mad about?
Can't give you that one.
Caleb Downs All-World Safety.
He's your main returner.
You lose all of your production.
The most pressures you got, your six guys, they're now gone.
Matt Patricia has to now go in and reinstall confidence and have, I mean, there's no doubt
that Ohio State's always going to reload everything.
I think it takes a little bit of time.
I think Texas, right now at this point, they have a more cohesive unit from the OC
standpoint.
I think Sarkeesian sees blood.
He needs it.
He's got to have it.
it, they already held Jeremiah Smith or one reception for three yards.
They understand how to neutralize him a lot of ways.
I think Ohio State is going to give their elix in this game.
I'm hoping this game is close.
I want Ohio State to win.
If the game is close, Ohio State will win this game.
I can see Texas.
I can see this being a disappointing week one where we're like, man, Texas just blew the doors off of them.
I can see that happening.
I don't necessarily see it going the other way.
That playoff game they had, every guy.
who scored a touchdown is no longer
on the Ohio State offense anymore.
Both the running backs are gone.
The one receiving touchdown they have with the Trayvon
Hendrickson, he scores a 75-yarder.
I think there's a lot
of turnover for Ohio State. I think
Texas has been waiting for this for a long time
and this is the team they lost you last year.
This is a get-back game for them.
If Ohio State wins,
it's a good look for the Big Ten.
So you got Ohio State minus two and a half?
No, I got Texas.
I've already said, Texas,
I want Ohio State to win, but I think Texas is going to win this game.
Okay.
If I'm sitting here and people are watching the show, they're like, I'm going to listen to what Terlouin says.
I would say Texas.
I can't go wrong by the Fandals, people.
Okay.
What's a vampire sleeping?
I can't give you cough.
I look at both of these schools.
They all got great talent.
They all got good coaching staffs.
They're all going to have good game plans.
If I just focus in on how this game can play out,
and if I'm leaning on the Matt Patricia's side of the defense,
you got Archmanning having his first big game,
doesn't have a whole lot of starts and experience
to where you're watching the film,
and it's like, this is how we're going to attack this kid.
Patricia's more of an aggressive play caller,
a lot of more man-to-man coverage and everything else.
I think when you get a good quarterback that can dice you up,
you're not going to want to sit in zone,
so I think this plays into Matt Patricia
wanting to implement this very aggressive,
style defense, especially coming out of a week one, but I think it plays into the hands of
Arch of Arch Manning and Sark. I think they're going to have great counters to everything they do
defensively. I think the wide receivers will get just enough separation. And I think if Arch
Manning is as advertised, which I think he is, I think he eats up this man-demand-man coverage.
I got Texas in this game. I'm taking Texas plus two and a half. To me, that's what it comes
down to because I think everywhere, everybody's good.
There's going to be new faces on both sides of the ball.
They've all recruited very well.
They have everything.
Each team.
They're poised for a big year.
You want to know who the quarterback's going to be on Ohio State side?
But again, I like Arch Manning as advertised.
And I think he has a lot of success against the man coverage that he's going to see this
weekend.
And Julian's saying, too, having his first start in this type of game.
I mean, what is it, the loudest?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
J.P's getting his third vehicle brought to him.
You're right.
Yeah, Julian's saying, like, it's like, what an uphill battle he has.
He's lost his running backs.
I mean, he has like an alien wide receiver, a guy you can just kind of go throw it up to.
But Texas, man, like you're basically inheriting a problem from your former family.
Like, Ohio State went and beat the brakes off of Texas this year.
They haven't forgot.
It doesn't matter if there's a different guy at quarterback, they have not forgotten about what the Buckeyes did to them.
I just keep hearing so many people do what you just did.
You just did.
I'm about to do it.
I'm about to pick Texas too.
And I just picture folks sitting in Columbus.
We just won a national title.
A returning or replacing a starter at Ohio State is a little different than what it is everywhere else.
Because you're replacing a starter with another stud.
Problem is Texas is that same way.
And Texas's questions, I think, are lesser than than Ohio states.
Halacious pass rush, edge Texas.
I think quarterback will be an edge to Texas, but who really knows?
I just guess on that.
There's a staff edge to Texas.
I love those dudes at Ohio State.
But, I mean, they wouldn't be able to call me a liar with a straight face.
If I said, you're replacing coordinators, one of them, like you said, with Matt Patricia,
not really a lot of college experience to begin with.
And then on Texas' aside, I consider Sark their OC.
Pete Kwiakowski's been there forever, and he's probably kept them up.
In fact, I know he's kept them up late this week because I've spoken to them about staying up
late this week, about trying to run the ball on him.
Special teams, man, Texas, Jeff Payne,'s got one of the best special teams guys in the country.
I just, I look at it so many different ways.
Like one thing people say all the time when these number one,
versus number two type five matchup type games happen is they say well either way it'll be a great
game i don't know that it'll be a great game because there's a world where you get this much
talent and this much uncertainty you throw it in a blender it could spit out 38 to 17 either way
i think it could be a blowout either way i just trust texas answers a whole lot more i guess
than ohio state's answers so like many other people i'm going texas to win and cover i think
the public would be like understanding of texas was a 3817 winner i think the public's a
little more unforgiving if Ohio State's on the winning version of that blowout.
They should be.
Especially with Archmanning, like everybody in their mother that used to the cohesiveness
of the D.C.'s and the head coach, like everything, if there's going to be a blow, it says
the longhorns written all over there.
Do you think Sark or Ryan Day needs the game more?
See, that's where I lean favor in Ohio State.
I think Sark needs the game more than Ryan Day.
I don't think it's close.
I think it's Sark by 10 months.
One guy just won a national title.
Right.
Okay, one guy, if he wins Saturday, great.
But like, do the alternate scenario.
If all three of us are wrong, very rare.
But if all three of us are wrong.
And they're flying back home in Ohio State just got the win.
Here's what Texas fans start to say.
You, Steve Sarkozyn, had a shot against DeBoer a couple of years ago in the playoffs.
You lost to a lesser roster.
You had two shots against Kirby last year.
You lost, then you lost again.
And they put their backup quarterback in at halftime because we knocked the starter at.
You still lost.
You had a shot against Ryan Day in the playoffs.
You lost.
You just got another shot against Ryan Day.
You lost again.
Do we have a big game problem?
Does our guy match up in big game?
We don't play 162 games in football.
We play 12 of them.
So over the span of one Saturday, the narrative, which is an overused word, but in this
case, it fits the narrative around a guy, can start to shift pretty radically.
So you can say it's one game.
People can say it's one game all they want to.
Go lose the game.
Not even a conference game, but go lose the game.
On the road, in the shoe, against number one.
It'll be, you know, the 08 stock market crash.
Yeah.
Back in Texas.
Yeah.
I think it turns more into a Ryan Day situation before this past year.
Which is worse.
Not Franklin because I think Texas fans are crazier.
But people would look at his roster.
People look at Franklin's roster.
They've never said Franklin's got a roster that compares to Ohio State.
They got to squeeze every drop of water out of the rag to win a game.
They would look at Texas and say, you've got an embarrassment of riches.
You've out-recruited everyone.
You guys can portal like no one else.
You've got infinite resources.
If you can't get it done with all the resources at your disposal,
it would, in a way, be viewed worse than James Franklin.
Yeah.
And a lot of Ferraris in that parking lot.
A ton of them.
A lot of them.
Figuratively and literally.
Yeah.
There it is, Texas across the board.
I hope we seem right.
I feel really good about the weekend.
We do have our dog of the week.
Dogs of the week.
Dogs of the week.
What we're doing on Dog of the Week
is we're picking an underdog
with the points
so that way we can talk about a different game
or a different team that's out there right now
because the thing with college football
is once you get outside of the big games
or the spreads or a little more marginal
outside of that it's all double-digit spreads
money line, it's hard to be like this is going to be a massive upset.
It's hard to sit there constantly look at the bureau
and go, hey guys, listen, I'm going to take this underdog
that's plus 15 and a half.
Yep.
This is why you should take them
and then you lose you good hard-earned money.
Talking spreads,
trying to give you the best opportunity.
You want to go first?
I like Syracuse plus 13 and a half.
I don't.
On Tennessee.
Not to win.
I think Tennessee wins the game.
But I like Syracuse plus 13 and a half.
I really like Fran Brown.
He was the DB coach at Georgia.
Syracuse hires him to be the head man in the first year at Syracuse.
Look, nobody knows that Syracuse plays football up in the Northeast.
He goes 10 and four.
Tell it to Troy Nunes.
Do what?
Troy Nunes.
legendary Syracuse quarterback coach.
Okay, fair.
But Syracuse, historically, they haven't had,
they just went 10 and 4 with Fran Brown's first year as the head man.
And this is a guy that loves the smoke.
Dion talks about, hey, let's do, you know, we should be open up
and be able to practice against other teams.
You know, Fran Brown's on the internet being like,
hey, we'll be that team.
NCAA shuts it down.
But this dude, like, he has the swagger.
Right now, currently they have a top 25 recruiting class.
Like, he's talking athletes into, hey,
Syracuse is the best place for you to play football.
He's talking transfers at Notre Dame, Alabama, LSU, being like,
hey, this is a better spot to play because he knows how to develop
and get the most out of his talent.
I like Fran Brown a lot.
Again, Syracuse hasn't had a double-digit win season since 2002,
and he does it in his very first year.
Will Howard was a big part of that, but again, this is a guy who can recruit
and get people in there and he knows how to develop guys.
Comacord.
Comacord, my fault.
They're both, you know, the white quarterbacks.
Yeah, they're kind of same.
Ohio State.
Ohio State.
Yeah, Ohio State.
Yeah, yeah.
But I like Fran Brown.
I like Syracuse.
I like the 13 and a half against a Tennessee team who they're going to be very good defensively,
but I don't know who they're going to be offensively without Nico.
And they got a lot of new faces across the board.
O-line receivers are replacing the running back.
So that's why I like Syracuse with the points plus 13 and a half.
I love it.
You like that?
I've been on it all week.
Love it.
Steve Angeli, by the way.
New quarterback for Syracuse.
Transfer from Notre Dame.
Good player.
Competitive character of that team, trust it a lot.
Tennessee's not pulling away in that.
So Syracuse is going to cover that game.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, no, I like it.
I like it a lot.
You like it a lot of lot.
I've taken a strong position on Syracuse this week.
Okay, all right.
I would also like to take a strong position on South Florida, plus five and a half.
This is either a Thursday or a Friday game.
I want you know I'm taking it.
Boise.
No nothing about this game.
Who are they playing?
Boise.
They're playing down in Tampa.
They are, Alex Golish is one of the coaches that I've had circled for a couple of years.
Like Alex Golish was the OC at Tennessee, gets the South Florida job, been down there a couple of years.
He's taken Bama to the wire twice.
That's probably the only time people have really watched him.
I just believe everyone's looking at Boise and they just automatically pencil them in.
It's either them.
You default to them as the playoff team for the G5.
And if they lose a game, it's going to be when they play Notre Dame.
they're five and a half point favorite in week one.
Not 15 or 25.
They're five and a half point favorite.
I think South Carolina could be South Florida,
both of them actually,
but South Florida could be very sneaky there.
So I'm going to take them plus five and a half.
I'm taking it.
Vandul.
Fandle.
Yeah, I don't know anything about that game.
And to be honest with you,
I forgot where they had to do this until about 45 minutes
before the show started.
I threw a drop in the bucket here.
I looked at Colorado.
I said there's been a lot of distractions in the Sanders family.
A lot of distractions going on.
Jard Shilohel is out there throwing punches on tight end guys.
Dion just beat cancer.
A lot of people are not talking about the program of Colorado right now.
I don't know who is their starting quarterback.
It's going to be Caden Salter.
Caden Salter.
Everyone knows about Caden Salter.
I don't even have to.
He's salty.
He's salty.
He's going to be salty out there.
They're playing Georgia Tech.
They're dogs by four and a half.
I can see them being sneaky here.
Covering that.
I can see them.
Ask me how.
I have no idea.
Do you?
Nope.
Me either.
But this is one of the situations where
40 minutes before the show we had this.
And I was like,
I got too much going on with the other.
five games. I got to make sure and get something out here. I like Dion. I love Dion. I like prime time.
I think it's actually going to help not having his kids on the team either from a distraction
standpoint. That's an instinct theory. We kind of get right to ball, focus on ball, not worry so much
about nepotism. No disrespect. Not to be so worried about nepotism. So I got, let me get Colorado.
You guys with that parlay? That weekly parlay, huh? Do you like that pick at all?
No, man. I don't know why it's so low. That's why I've stayed away from it because I love Georgia Tech this year.
I love the spot for him.
Hey, Josh, I love Georgia Tech.
He loves Georgia Tech.
I'm talking, he sees him in the AC championship.
Yeah.
They did.
In Dublin.
In Dublin.
They took Georgia in eight overtimes.
They're spicy.
Do they still got the linebacker with the, uh, the, uh, they got everybody.
Everybody's back.
With that horse collar back there?
Actually, I don't know if he's back.
He's back.
He's back, Mitch.
Oh, yeah, he runs around.
He haunts in between the tackles.
Honts.
Don't get him dropping them coverage.
Yeah.
Never seen in thin air, though.
Never seen a thin air, though.
Never seen him playing thin air.
So there's that.
All right.
Okay.
Parlay.
Weekly parlay.
Yeah, I'm just trying to give us a no-brainer.
You want to talk to us about, you want to talk to me about Ball State?
Yeah, not much, but I want to talk to you about Ball State.
They're playing Purdue.
They're getting 18 and a half.
Purdue has 82 new scholarship players on the roster.
It's impossible to know what they have.
Barry Odom's the head coach there.
There is no way that he knows what he has.
Winning by 10 is a great day for them, Saturday.
day. They are laying 18 and a half, though. So I'm taking Ball State plus 18 and a half.
It is one of my favorite bets of the end. It is my favorite bet of the entire week.
Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. Okay. I like that. Pain state is going crazy.
Yeah, Purdue, man. I feel bad for Purdue. I'm going to go Montana State. They're a plus 27 and a half
versus Oregon. Why you ask? I don't know, because they were in their own national championship last
year. I ended up going 15 and 1. They got the Stanford transfer of Justin Lamson. Good there.
Dual threat quarterback. Guy like that. Oregon, last year, they started slow.
They played Idaho State, and they only won that game by, like, three points.
Took a little to get that ball rolling a little bit.
Get them mobile until what they were towards the end of the year
before they run into the bussaw of Ohio State.
Montana State's sneaky.
I think Oregon's also a team that, like, they know who they are as a unit.
They're going to get up.
Montana State's going to keep their starters in there because they're getting guys filmed, whatever.
And then they're going to pull their guys back.
They're going to let them play their game.
This is going to be a 21-point win for Oregon.
And I think Montana State kind of is like, you know, moral victory.
Good recall. Good recall from the start last year.
Yeah. Very slow start.
Very slow start. Very slow.
I'm going to ride with you.
Yeah, I mean, look, this is our parlay, so I got to ride with the boy.
I got to back my boy.
I'm thinking Oregon is his national champion, and then he's also going Montana State out of the week one of college football.
Yeah, Oregon, who also was the number one seed, won the Big Ten, and then was in a dog fight with Idaho State and two other schlups.
What was it?
Boise State, yeah.
Listen, again, I'm backing you.
Trust you.
Take a couple weeks to get Dante Moore, get him dialed in.
Got to ease in, yeah.
You're going to have a couple headaches.
There's always something in week one.
Stay healthy.
Always something going on in week one.
I love it.
This one, this parlay right here, Montana State plus 27 and a half,
Ball State plus 18 and a half, and Nebraska minus six and a half.
That totals out to plus 568 on the Fandu's Sportsbook, gentlemen.
What a time to be alive.
Great show.
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