Bussin' With The Boys - Josh Pate & Taylor Lewan Pick Michigan vs Ohio State + Will Compton Says Vanderbilt Upsets Tennessee

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Welcome back to The Locker Room with Josh Pate, Will Compton, & Taylor Lewan! This week, we dive into the exciting matchups of Ole Miss VS. Mississippi State, Alabama VS. Auburn, Texas A&M VS. Texas, Vanderbilt VS. Tennessee, Ohio State VS. Michigan, Georgia VS. Georgia Tech, Miami VS. Pittsburgh, Arizona VS. Arizona State, Clemson VS. South Carolina, Florida State VS. Florida , UCLA VS. USC, North Carolina VS. NC State, Oregon VS. Washington, LSU VS. Oklahoma, Virginia Tech VS. Virginia, and Iowa VS. Nebraska. New episodes every Wednesday at 6:00 PM CT.    Timestamps: 0:00 Open 6:00 George Kittle BODIES Will 9:00 Josh Pate Lane Kiffen Troll 22:00 Pat McAfee Calls In 26:41 Ole Miss VS. Mississippi State 34:14 Alabama VS. Auburn 41:00 Texas A&M VS. Texas 53:21 Vanderbilt VS. Tennessee 1:03:28 Ohio State VS. Michigan 1:25:27 Georgia VS. Georgia Tech 1:27:00 Miami VS. Pittsburgh 1:28:00 Arizona VS. Arizona State 1:29:24 Clemson VS. South Carolina 1:32:08 Florida State VS. Florida  1:33:43 UCLA VS. USC 1:35:00 North Carolina VS. NC State 1:35:34 Oregon VS. Washington 1:37:16 LSU VS. Oklahoma 1:38:05 Virginia Tech VS. Virginia 1:38:38 Iowa VS. Nebraska  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to another episode of the Lockroom. I'm Will Compton. I'm here with Josh Pay, Taylor-Lewan. Boys, rivalry week. Throw the data, throw everything out the window. This is all about pride. Maybe you're a fan somewhere thinking your team doesn't have a shot. Say your old Miss Mississippi State,

Mississippi State fan out there. For some reason you think you don't have a shot. This week, you have a shot. With all the drama around Lane Kiffin, there's a shot. Bama, or maybe you're an Auburn fan right now thinking, you have no shot. Bama's playing to get in the SEC title game. You have a shot, Auburn.

Texas A&M, Texas is going to be fire, Vandy Tennessee is going to be fireworks. And then we have the game. Looking at my guy over there. The only one that matters. The only one that matters to a certain somebody. It is going to be the most exciting game of the weekend. And also, maybe you're a Georgia Tech fan thing.

You might not have a shot. You don't have a shot against Georgia. We have 16 games we are breaking down today. Here's their standings from last week. All three and two. We're all sitting there right around here. So what do we do? We're going to throw 16 games in the machine.

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Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving. Big odds. You brought in your best friend today. Yeah, you said it's a rivalry week, right? Yeah. You said this is the week you throw out all the numbers. You throw out all the data. Throw it.

And immediately, I bring in numbers and data the models here this week. Three and two last week. Could have been four and two, which we can talk about in a second. But three and two, I got back over the hump and I leaned on the model last week. but I leaned on it from memory. This week, I mean, we got to create some separation. It's Tuesday also. We usually shoot this on Wednesdays.

Last week, Josh Pate was like, old Josh Pate does this. This Josh Pate's going here. This Josh Pate is model Josh Pate. And I like that. That's good. You guys switch something up. You've been two and three for every single week. And now look at you.

I went Moneyball last week. Yeah. And we could have been. Did you go, Georgia Tech? No, I went. You guys wanted Georgia Tech. I went Georgia Tech. I went Georgia Tech as well.

But when you watched the game kickoff, did you immediately have regrets like I did? When I looked at the game on the thing, I thought the same thing as when the game came on. I'm not watching this. Yeah. That's exactly what I thought. And here's another thing. When the ball kicked off, did you think the same thing I did immediately regret? I got no interest in this.

I got to be honest with you. I have to be regret this. No. Oh, yeah. Hey, by the way, guys, I got coffees for us. Curtis of Lindsay. Um, but earlier in the week, they're like, hey, we're going to go over SMU. We're going to over Louisville. Yep.

So Tuesday night, I got the coffee. computer got the double chins out I'm looking I'm trying to find as much data as I possibly can because I don't have something I can just plug stuff in and just say okay this is my answer I got to do the old-fashioned way you should get one of these yeah I should I want to get one of them and I'm like okay SMU is my answer that's where I'm gonna go for the game I'll wake up at 7 a.m. and I had a text from clump being like hey we're gonna go pit Georgia Tech are you good with this Josh and Will already said yes and then you had a text that said with Josh already said yes and I said yes because I just assumed

Both of you had already said yes. God, bless. All the while, what was the logic? Clump, what was the logic behind the shift? What was the swerve for? Microphone. Just felt like, you know, it was going to be a great game. And Pitt was going to upset Georgia Tech.

So I thought you guys had just been locked in. Luckily, Will did take the money line and did hit the pick. But, uh, SMU Louisville's terrible game. I'll tell you exactly what happened. Monday, I go to him with the sheet and I go, why are we going over? S&U Louisville. And he's like, well, there's not a whole lot of great games this weekend. And I go, all right, we can just take it.

I go, well, then we won't have as many games. It's like, yeah, we'll have four games to talk about. And then that was the end of the conversation. And it ends up, I get a text on Wednesday morning. That is 7 a.m. two hours before we shoot the show. That is exactly how it went down. I'm driving to work. And I start sweating.

As I'm driving, I'm like, man, maybe we shouldn't pick that game. I think he's right. And then I sent the text out to everyone. And yes, sorry. If we wouldn't, if we would only have four, we'd be all be sitting here two and two. There's nothing worse than a win. Like this one, we get rivalry. week we get separation Saturday once again because we have what 16 games thank you very much i

appreciate that this is eight-in-row spars let's just throw darts at a board courtesy of josh pay model oh this is gonna be listen we can do this show this we find week 14 robbery week there's only one game on the slate that matters there's only one game one i'll give it a i'll give a point five as well for iowa Nebraska after the way george kittle treated you on national television yesterday that is crazy i'm sitting there it's i forget what time it's i forget what time it's It's maybe about 10.30 at night. And I'm studying for these games. And I think I'm looking up because I got a lot of fun facts about some of these rivalry games.

Some good history. And I'm sitting there and I'm breaking down UNC, NC State, trying to find a little nugget. And all of a sudden, my TV is sitting at volume 8. And I see Scott Van Pelt on and all I hear is like, I know you want to address your buddy from Nebraska. We'll get into that later this show. And I just like look over to the TV. What though? Is he really about to turn it all the way up to 32?

Sit there and wait. Sit there and wait just for him to say just for him. I was like, I know he's going to come with some heat against Nebraska. George Kittled did a great job. He cut a great promo. That was a WW-type promo. Which you know he loves. Yeah.

Is there anything you'd like to say back to George in this moment? We'll find out come Friday. Because he's setting himself up in a bad way. Why's that? He's sitting there talking about the Penn State. You guys lose to Penn State by 30. And I'm thinking of my head. You think we practiced one rep last week against Penn State?

like this entire focus these last two weeks has been on Iowa football. You guys, the scout team was actually just drawing up for Iowa Hawkeyes. Yeah. What Penn State was to Nebraska last week, it was sort of like the Illinois, eastern Illinois to Alabama.

Yeah. You know, like your Samford to Texas A&M. It's just a tune-up week. Yeah, that was a meaningless game and we approached it that way. Oh, you're like to get the Narduzzi approach. Yeah, there we go. They could beat us by 100.

Yeah, you don't give a shit about Penn State. You did take Nebraska as a lock last week. However, irrelevant? Last week's behind us. It's whatever. It didn't matter, but he still put it in our show. I'm just a fan. I'm like, yeah, we're probably going to mop this team.

And then I find out afterwards, oh, we didn't practice any reps against Penn State. Because you didn't make yourself the story. You stayed out of their business last week. Yeah, like I'm going to do me and I'm riding with the boys all day, 24-7, 365. The funniest thing you've said throughout this entire Iowa, Penn State doesn't matter, is the scouting thing. Because Iowa's playbook is about as dense as this. So for you guys to take an extra week of scouting, the same four plays they run. Yeah.

And then it's just drill, physicality drills. They have three runs and then three more runs and had the exact same blocking scheme with the quarterback running the ball. All they need to do is break one because that's what they did last year. That's all they broke one play. I think it was a screen to the running back. They took it to the house. The biggest play, their only play of the game.

And they ended up beating us. That might be the most boring game. And I don't mean that disrespectfully. Yeah. It's like you just got to play great defense and whoever scores three first. I would Nebraska this Friday is for the sickos. Like they just wants to sit there. They want to watch punts.

They want to watch defense. We need Nebraska's run defenses show up because it's matchup and the trenches. It's scary hours. Yeah, because they got a good guard and tackle that are like all big 10 last year. I think they're like all American preseason as well. Yeah. It'll be fun. Iowa hate week.

Iowa hate week. So I guess there's one and a half games that matter on this. late. I got a couple bones to pick with Josh where we get rid of it. I'll sit back. The troll job he did with Lane Kiffin. A fan of it or not a fan of it? Not a fan. Okay, explain to me why. Because I fell for it. Okay, let's talk. Do you want to talk as if Josh is not here right now? Or do you want to add him into the conversation? We can do that. I look at Josh Pate and this is the, this is my North Star of college football information. Dana. You hold him to such a high standard. I've been following this man for what, two, three years now. Yeah. Don't go ahead.

I've been following that man for two, three years now, and I'm in the lure. I'm in his Twitterverse. Like, I'm in the, I'm in the no with the jokes. Yes, I'm a fan. Yeah. I see when haters say stuff and I'm thinking myself, I know what he's going to do here and he does it. Like, I just, I feel like I know this man's playbook. So when he came out and tweeted, whatever he tweeted about Lane Kiffin, like I just found out

where he's going, all I got to say is, wow, whatever it was, I'm like, if there's one man in this game that would know that answer, and then, would feel comfortable enough to tweet something like that, it would be Josh Payton. So I'm thinking, this dude knows, so I text him. I'm like, where's he going? Not a response. See him hit the tweets a couple of times. I was just like, hey, where's he going?

And he hits me with whatever I said on busing yesterday. Yeah. Read the text. Let me see here. Just take a minute. I'm looking this up. As I take a minute to look, again, make sure you are subscribed to this channel. Make sure you're leaving comments throughout this episode.

We're going to have a lot of fun, talk a lot of ball. He responded when people tell you Lane Kiffin is the world's best troho. Always remember there's at least one better. Can I ask you a specific question? Yeah. Between remember and theirs, is there four dots or three dots? Four dots. Okay. So you got the same one. So I saw it and I have not like, I have heard whispers about the hip here with this job, peat guy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, mostly from you and other people for the last couple of years. Yeah. But until Georgia, I'm sorry, Oregon versus Ohio State. last year when we met him and you're like, yo, you got to meet Josh Pete. I'm like, why don't I keep knowing that Amy?

You're like, yo. He had the aviators on. He was chewing the big league chew. He's the dude in college football. You got to meet him. So you like, bring me over Josh. You dab him up. Hey, this is my boy Tim.

Hey, good to meet you. And since that moment, I've been kind of following Josh Pate. And solely but truly, I'm like, I'm not as like in the world of the Twitter sphere. But I like, I watch from afar. And I'm like, wow, this dude really is. A man that holds himself above college football. Like he is like when college football is in a scary situation, they looked at Josh Payton.

But also good enough to know doesn't take himself so seriously that he will get in the gutter with some people and have some good troll jobs out there. The perfect balance of serious and focused to where a head coach would look at him like, I'm going to give us information because I trust him.

Yeah. But still like turns around as like, is a boy in one hand. You feel a level of comfort when he walks into a room. Got a lot of influence. That's the perfect amount of balance. So I saw Josh's tweet.

I screenshot it. I said top five clickbait. Dot, dot, dot, dot. Where's he headed? Eye emoji. An hour later, oh, four hours later, sends me a text. When people tell you, Lane Kiffin is the world's best troll, always remember four dots. There's at least one better.

I just remember, like, whispering under my breath is a cock sucker. Because I fell for it. I fell for it. Oh, you thought, okay, you saw the tweet and we're like. Well, Coop dropped in the group chat. He's like, oh, look, Josh Payton. Josh Payte tweeted, like, the guy knows now. Yeah.

I fell for it. Damn. Do you want to bring him back in the conversation? Yeah. That's what we bring him back in. Columbus also got the same exact way. I got a text that said, when people tell you,

Lane Kiffin is the world's best troll, always remember four dots. There's at least one better. So are you as quick winning as we think, or are you just have a roller decks of responses? He is, but I'm sure his phone was blowing up right when that moment happened.

It's going through group chats. Everybody's like, he knows, he knows, he knows. Yeah. Worst thing about this show when it airs will be, I sent that to like a dozen other people. They will see this and I will be exposed even further than I've been exposed this week so far. When you're on one though, when you got a good line, most of the time you give it to one person. I happen to be in that unique position where I thought I had a good one. 400 people were asking me the same thing and I just copy paste, copy paste, copy paste,

Lane himself hit me up, Chris Lowe hit me up. Like a lot of really distinguished true North Stars of college football hit me up. I didn't care. But when you two hit me and I realized what I thought was clear sarcasm, clearly a joke had not landed to the point where both of you took it seriously. That's when I went, uh-oh. Yeah. I will say it's like some of those networks, like they might have those reactions, but there's something where they're over on the other side of the line or they would get that joke when it comes back to you. like, oh, man, they didn't get it. Like, I missed. I whipped on this troll. You got it. Everybody.

Yeah. You got everybody. It's up to everybody you sent that copy and paste to now to when you send them a message. We just now have to be arm and arm and just respond back. Copy and paste question mark. Yeah, so it's my retirement from comedy. I'm done. I'm done until 2020. Yeah, I'm done. Yeah, I'm a journalist. You missed one. You got to keep swinging.

You got to keep swinging. Because you don't miss, dude. There's been so many times in this show. You've done a joke and it's hit. Do you think I should miss more so that jokes land? Yeah. Do you think that my, and of course I don't take myself too seriously, but do you think that my being above the,

the fray, my integrity, my self-proclaimed authority over this sport worked against me. I think it did. Yeah. So I think I need to back off that stuff about 25% intentionally with, maybe that's what I've been doing in every two and three weeks so far this year, so that I can afford to be a little more loose, a little more reckless, you know, get a little sideways and turn four. And not everyone looks at the car saying, oh man, is he wrecking? Yeah. No, it's just dirt track. I'm doing it on purpose. It's the hero's journey. Right. Let me ask you this. You said something in that, in that little monologue there that maybe you've been doing it all along with the two and threes maybe this is the new josh peat now that we see at three and two so you have to ask yourself this do you want to be a

guy that does whiffs on jokes and trolls the whole entire world but is positive every single week in the gambling or do you want to flip it and go two and three and always be able to read the room correctly can i think on that yeah oh yeah this is this is we can sit here all day we have nothing but time my second bone to pick with you oh oh oh fall don't light tour not going to the game not going to michigan oh oh oh i've been i saw I saw everybody kind of coming after you too. They're labeling how many times you went to, bam, how many times you all these SEC games you go to.

Instead of the Ohio State games. This is the only game that matters. And you got Ohio State Michigan, but the heat just how insane this game is going to be. Everything around it. The greatest rivalry in sports, but this robbery is at its peak right now. No one needs to explain to me how big the game is.

For instance, I've been to the last four, including a couple of years ago, when Michigan won in the state, snow in Ann Arbor. It's a noon kickoff. So you can get back to Detroit airport and you can get your flight home to Nashville. You see Taylor in the terminal. You say, hey, Taylor says, hey, because he's boarding the same flight as you.

You've never brought it up to his face until now. But he just kind of big times you there. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, he came and he had that one ready to go. I zoned out. I didn't catch everything you said because I was a point out and be like, oh, Jack went to that game, the snow game. And that's making his point.

You're saying you went to the snow game. I'm saying you became aware of me documented earlier today last year. But you first spoke to me two or three years ago in Detroit Airport. You remember it was the same day. You don't remember clearly. Let me inform you. Hold on, hold on. It was the same day.

Is this the snow game? It's the snow game, but it's the same day as the fourth and 31 Iron Bowl ending because the entire airport went crazy because we're about to board a flight separately. Clearly, you and I. are about to board a flight back home to Nashville, and that Bama 4th and 31 play happened, because I remember that was that day. So whatever Michigan, Ohio State game was that day,

it was the 4th and 31 game. Right now you have two mixed up, because the snow game I had it in my back pocket just now. I did not go to that game. Jack went to that game. Was that 23? Taylor, it was the game that we went to. I know, I know.

And then when you said the Alabama, Mitch and I were sitting in the terminal with a bag full of candy after watching the game, watching that 4th and, what, 31? watching that 4th and 31 in the Iron Bowl in that terminal so now I'm back with you Was the Snow Game 21?

Snow game was 21 I was also at that one And then I was at 22 And then I was at 23 I've been to the last four Yeah Which by the way We can get into how I need to be a better friend to you

Even though I didn't know we were friends At that time yet So it's really not my bad at all You need to go to the game You have to, have you been to last four Yeah You have to go to this one Oh I see where you're going

Yeah What was the energy Yeah what happened At the game or in the terminal No with the time No when you were saying what's up Oh I said, I said, congrats. And I said, hey, how are you doing? You can say, hey, man, appreciate it.

You know, like you would any other stranger. Do we know each other? Clearly no. So you, okay, so clearly no. So did, have we met before that moment? I don't think so. Okay, so a very handsome bald guy walks up to me in a terminal after my team just won, was it two in a row or three in a row? That would have been three in a row. Right? That was 23? Regardless. So I'm in a great mood. Mitch, he's a quote, quote, state fan.

We get a bunch of candy. I'm like, hey, you'll eat your feelings. I'll eat my happiness. Let's get in here and eat this candy. Understandable. And you come up to me. We don't know each other. And you just say,

congrats. And I say, hey, thank you very much. No, there was no very much. Oh, thank you. I say thank you. Thanks, bud. Like you would, any usher walking by, you just appreciate it, man.

Thanks. Thanks, bud. Pretty sure he brought you. Maybe a house. You see your stories following a part. We could be two years down the road right now. We could be two further years down the road. We could have had our first fights. We could have been two years down the road. If you would have walked up to me and said, Taylor, Josh, Pay it, great to meet you.

I'd be like, yo, I think I know that name from somewhere. Josh, what do you do? Oh, I'm the commissioner of college football. Like, oh, bro, you're the guy. You're the guy that people keep talking about all the time and you're on your way up. You're crushing here. Hey, have a seat. You see this fourth and 31 going right now at the Iron Bowl. Why don't you sit? No, get a little closer. Get in here. And then we get on my phone and we sit there. Bro. And that's how our friendship. starts. Friendship doesn't start with, hey, congrats in the game. Keep walking. Because you should play cool. And I would have loved to be your friend. Here's the problem. Neither of you,

neither of you are going to understand this because you're not introverted. You're not introverted. You're not introverted. I pretend I'm not on air, but I'm actually introverted socially. So it's just not my DNA to do that. He claims to be introverted as well. You're not. You're not introverted. You're introverted. There's no way. He likes, he likes his home time. He doesn't think so. His, uh, Will, will likes to recharge with himself. I do. Yeah. I don't like to be around, like, you know.

That's not being an introvert, though. When you walk into a room, you're comfortable in the center of the room. If you're going to be in the room. I'm never comfortable in the room. I'm comfortable if I know everybody. Hmm. That's when I least like it. You know what we can do?

We can take a test. We can do one of those acronym tests. Inneagram. Indianagram. Anyagram. I don't look like 150 questions? Eight wing six. Something like that.

With a moon. Isn't there a moon involved? There's another one, too. where it's like, you know, it's just like the alphabet, and you take four of the letters, you put them together, and you got an acronym. You said, that's astrologology. Right, the moon.

Yeah, I got no clue we're talking about. So you're going to have to run lead on this. Virgo, you don't know your sign? I don't. I know I'm a December, December 7. Pearl Harbor. Can somebody please look up what his sign is? You can bring up the date,

the date you were born in location, and they'll have this moon thing that, like, basically explains you perfectly. Yeah. There you're a Sagittarius. There you go. What's his sign? I know it's not a new thought.

That's not a new idea. But when I plugged it in. No, like there's like a Scorpio's a scorpion. A Leo's a lion. A cancer's like a crab or some shit like that. Like Sagittarius is like a unicorn or some shit. No, I think there's a centaur. Is there a centaur?

Wait, Will, you're born in September? Yeah, September 19th, 1988 and I. Does anyone have it? It's a centaur. A centaur. That's dope. Yeah, it is. But you having the introvert.

conversation with me, I fully understand how you would go, hey, congratulations, that's you really getting out of your wheelhouse and how comfortable you are. I laid myself on the line. It sounds like, well, from an introverts perspective, absolutely. Yeah. But if I saw somebody that I knew and that I thought to myself, I'd like to be friends of that individual, I'm also an extrovert. So I would definitely just come up on you. So as an extrovert, you saw me say hey to you. You received it, but really you ran it through your filter and decided, I don't know if I want to. Boy, say hello to Pat. Patrick? Pat, hello. Hey, tough doubt, bro.

Thank you. Yeah. No, it's been a hard-fought battle. I know. I'm eating vegetables. I'm on the non-n Thanksgiving Thanksgiving plan right now. Yeah, fuck that. I'm going to eat turkey.

I'm going to have mashed potatoes this week. He's right. Dude, that's a problem. Is I become a bully-e? I need to become the bullier. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Yeah.

What's up, Pat? Patrick, I need you to do me a favor right quickly. if you can. Yeah, I have no interest in picking Ohio State in front of my good friend here. So I'm going to outsource it to you for later in the show. Ohio State, Michigan, do you have a pick yet for this weekend? Hey, Pat, Pat, Pat, you remember our text exchange from last year. Don't make the same mistake. Don't make the same mistake. Done. Done. What a time to turn it around. You stand up, shirt off, starts singing Mr. Brightside,

we're going blue. What an up? What it up? What did he say? What he said? He didn't say nothing. Done, done. He didn't say nothing, right? He didn't say nothing.

He didn't say anything. He didn't say anything. I heard him whispered him, but it had to be, it was probably the Wi-Fi. Yeah, yeah, he didn't say anything. Fair enough. Here you got you. Okay, that's fair, Pat. Uh, no, we're home.

Absolutely. I would love to. Okay. Okay. Yeah, that works. It's how we out right now. Yeah, that'll work. You have for the next.

Okay, sick. Good luck out there, boys. All right, brother. See you, Pat. I think if we went back in time and I was fully aware of Josh Pate, I would have made a different decision there. But maybe I'm just so, I'm blinded by happiness in that moment. I'm not my, my best self. It was the day.

So it was the day more than it was me. Yeah. Yeah, I would, I would say that. Because I love where we're at now, but just thinking the fact that we could be two years ahead of where we are now, I can't go into that thought process. It'll just make me sad. That was a long day, too. Yeah, it was a long day, long day. Long day.

We have fun. Got a lot of games to talk about. A lot of games to talk about. A lot of games to talk about. There's only one game that matters. There's only one game that matters on that. Shall we kick it off? Let's do it. Let's do it.

Any more bones to pick with Josh? I have no bones. I think we emptied the clip this morning. Glad I wore white. Bleeding everywhere. I would like to point out and you guys, no one noticed it. But no boot. No boo.

No reason to give a round of applause for that. Fuck out. You can't do that and then be like nobody do anything. You guys don't have to. It's called sarcasm. Did you beat gout? Do you think you beat gout? No.

I think right now, I'm not going to say what I was just going to say, but I think I'm on the mend. Today is judgment day. I got vans on. I woke up this morning. I got it to bed and I'm thinking myself, please God, no pain when I put these feet on the ground. And there was no pain. And so I started walking. I was like, I want to put these vans on.

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Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Here we go. We got the Egg Bowl. Old Miss at Mississippi State, the line on this game, Ole Miss is favored by six and a half. The over under on this game is 62 and a half. We have an announcement happening after the game where Lane Kiffin's going to go. This is about a big of a moment as it gets for Ole Miss. They're going to keep their head coach after the game's over, has all of this drama. Is it going to affect this Ole Miss football team who's sitting there priming ready to go for the college football football football playoff? If they win this game and Lane leaves as Ole Miss, you know, what's the playoff look like for them? Right. People are kind of saying

they want them out of the playoffs if they don't have Lane Kiffin. Which is crazy. I mean, regardless, that's still a playoff worthy roster, is it not? That's a great Josh Pate question. Look, I think so. Yeah, I think so. I think that's more talk than some. than the actual committee. I mean, do we really think the committee chair is going to get on the TV on Sunday and say, we did like this team, but now that they haven't lost a single player but their head coach is gone, if he's gone, by the way, then sorry, it's over. You're dead.

Bye. Welcome. Welcome home. Brigham Young. Just as an example. Do we really think that's going to happen? I don't think that's going to happen. What I do think is it's going to be a moot point because I do think Ole Miss is going to win this

game and cover because I kind of view Mississippi State is out of gas, which of course they would want to have said live on air or recorded, whatever we are today. And I know it's going to be in the hype video and I know it's going to be shown around the building. That's okay. I'm down for providing fuel for an entertaining game Friday. I just don't know that we're going to get it. I think Ole Miss, they haven't been a victim of the distraction like other teams have. Other teams have had their head coach in the headlines and whatnot and they faltered down the stretch.

Old Miss has just gotten better. And Lane would tell you, hey, it's because my locker room's kind of unaffected by this. Like my players are zoned in. They know they could go anywhere year to year too. So it's not like the old locker rooms. It's kind of a new age locker room. And I know he said that at his press conference yesterday. And a lot of people scoffed at it.

You can scoff at it all you want to. Look at their results. Their results kind of bear out what he's saying has some legitimacy. Maybe it's just an Ole Miss thing. Maybe it's just a lane thing. I don't know. I think they're going to win and cover. So I'll take Ole Miss.

I'll lay the points. And the model agrees for the record. I'm going to also take Ole Miss for the distractions. I mean, Lane Kiffin, everybody in the world could have packed it in. That locker room could have had all the distractions of the world. They'd have a reason to drop a game here and there, and they haven't. They've just gotten better. I think it's competitive for the first half.

And then Ole Miss just really puts the gas on. And it's over in the second half. Fun fact about the Egg Bowl, started in 1944. It is the 10th longest uninterrupted series in the United States. Don't you think it's strange that we were smack dab in the middle of World War II as a country? and somewhere in Mississippi, someone said, we got to name this bowl game. We got no one here to play right now,

but we got to name this bowl game. Why the egg bowl? Why? I've known that answer. Do you have it? Fun fact. No, I was mainly just Wikipedia pages. Didn't they call it like the golden egg?

I don't know the reasoning behind the naming of the egg. You know what I mean? Did the chicken come first? The egg come first. Right, yeah. Let's just go with the egg here. As is this rivalry game name, no one knows the end.

They're just like the chicken out of the egg. Yeah, I would say that's the biggest storyline around this game this week. What's the origin story of the rivalry game? Lane, if we got time, we can get to that. But really, we got to get down to more pressing matters. I'm taking Ole Miss minus six and a half. I think that it's what an opportunity Lane Kiffin has to become an absolute legend. I like to believe, I've went back and forth.

All the boys around the shop, like, is he leaving? Is he staying? I'm putting a post, hey, you got everything. Why I move the goal post? Then it's like, I hear that the NIL, The money depth is way more at Florida or LSU. Ole Miss is working to make it as perfect. They've given him everything he's wanted.

Ole Miss puts out a statement. He's going to make a decision after the game, after the Egg Bowl concludes. Then you got another leak that comes out on Sunday or Monday where it's LSU. Was it LSU has $90 million or was that one, Florida? Either way. Either way.

There's a leak coming out saying all this money's there. They're prepared to offer him this deal. and part of me just wants to believe that Lane Kiffin is dragging everybody along and he's going to choose to go to Ole Miss after they win the eight bowl. He's going to choose to stay home and he's doing everything he can

to drag LSU in Florida along because they are opponents in the SEC and he wants to set them up for as much failures they can feel before these dominoes fall and he goes back, he stays home, he stays at Old Miss. Like, what a legend

I love that this man could be. I love that. Love that. But if he goes elsewhere in the ugliest way possible, in the worst way he could have possibly done it, he will have ripped the hearts out of the chest of Ole Miss, that fan base, that school. There's no way he's getting out of the situation without heartbreak taking place. Right. But it depends on which heart he wishes the break. There's an easy story right here for him to just be this hero. Yeah. It's true hero villain right here. And being a troll, I mean the second best troll, according to Josh Bates copy and paste text.

by him dragging along LSU and Florida like this is the best job you can possibly do. Get these guys to believe, believe, believe, and then National Sunday is what, December 3rd? December 2nd at 1159 announced that you're staying at Ole Miss.

Yeah. Go as far as to even after the Egg Bowl or maybe right before, whatever. He just lets Florida and LSU know he tells both of them he's going. He's going to. I like that. Leagues happen and then Saturday, boom. Staying at Ole Miss. Yeah.

How about this? I had a vision now. So if we're right, if Ole Miss wins and they cover, let's say they're up 10, they got the ball, Mississippi State's got no timeouts, 55, 54, 53, they're taking knees, they're pouring the water on the sideline. What if the cameras caught him, drenched, high-fiving everyone, and you just saw him go like that right there, and then put his phone away? And then two hours later, it was reported Pete Nacos on three sports.

Lane Kiffin sent a group text, or maybe a copy-paste text, to be. both Florida and LSU moments before the Egg Bowl ended, informing them that he's staying at Ole Miss. And you go back and you look at the footage and you realize he sent that text before the clock at zero. That's beautiful. That's Lane Caffeine texting me. No, it would be, it'd be nuts. I am interested to see what decision he is going to make. Do we want to go on record as predicting where we think he's going to go? I, of course, no, but do we want to go on the record as predicting? Yeah, you start. I wrote it down.

Makes you say, wow, huh? Do you mind? You're going to. Yeah. All right. Is it what you thought? I want it on record that I'm predicting he stays at Ole Miss. Hmm.

I want it on record. Before or after I showed you what I just showed. Either way, that's where I was going before. And I got to stay in 10 toes down. Okay. A lot of people have been saying that. Right. The flip right there.

A lot of people have been saying that. That individual woman here. The old bait and switch. The old bait and switch. And hey, the job could be open. Oh, I think that job is 100% open. 100% open. All right.

And Scouts honor, we will all be honest about what we had predicted next week when we have an answer. Yeah, I'll keep this card. Okay. We have a second game on deck. We have Alabama. We got the Iron Bowl. Alabama at Auburn. The line on this game is Alabama minus five and a half.

The over under on this game is 47 and a half. A fun fact to lead this thing up there. first meeting was in 1883 and in the early 20th century Birmingham was the leading industrial city of the south in production of pig iron coke coal and manufacture of steel booming which led them to name it the iron bowl yep yep we know the name of that one we know the origin story of the iron bowl played it in lianget field for a long time do we want to get Garrett up here maybe give a couple words? If he's prepared, if he's ready to go.

Sorry, do you want to get Garrett up on the mic? Garrett on the mic? What's up, boys? Hey Garrett. I'd like to put it out there that I think Lane Kiffin is going to stay at Ole Miss as well. I think he's dragging Florida and LSU to deep, deep waters

just for the bit. But for the Iron Bowl, we all know what this game means. This is a win. An issue. in for Alabama. You also have to walk into the most voodoo place in the entire world. Auburn started it last week by starting a true freshman Duce Knight playing the mind games.

They also announced this could be true or false, but now they're saying that they're going to start a different quarterback for this game. So the head games have already started. We know what we have to do. Will said it last week or a few weeks ago for the Oklahoma game. They got to wake up. They didn't wake up. taste your own blood again.

Hopefully this is just belt to ass like it should be. And we get in and then we take care of business from there. But big game this weekend. It's probably the biggest game that's coming up this weekend, especially on Saturday. If you're a college football fan, you know how big this game is. It is the biggest game in college football every single year.

So roll time. Wow. Well said, Garrett. A lot of people believe. believe that. It is a great game. When you guys were talking about your first meeting, that fourth and long,

Alabama, Auburn? Fourth and 31, that was a true, like, where were you moment? The field goal that Auburn returned for a touchdown. They've had some iconic moments in this game.

And just the in-state rivalry aspect of the world. The in-state rivalry, who's going to own the state? Yeah. And like, been so good at Auburns have these like weird peaks and massive valleys. But even when they have these valleys, it's like a competitive game and it comes down to like this last play at some points. And it's, it's exciting. It's going to be a fun game to watch. I think there's a lot of

people in the South that are really excited about this football game. I got, I think Alabama's going to cover. I think, you know, the voodoo games and mindsets, Duce is playing. Now he's not playing. He freezes out. Who's going to be the coach there? Everybody wants Lane Kiffin. There's no way operating season Lane Kiffin. And I just think, Kailin DeBore has fully understood the expectation and what he needs to do, especially if this is a winning, get-in game.

Like, if they lose this game, their season is over. Yep. And they are done. And I think that, that alone is enough to propel you into, like a lot of times Alabama, when they've fallen,

it's been, they've been undefeated. They're, you know, they're sleepwalking to a game. They've kind of steamwled everybody. They have the old Nick Sabin teams. This team, knows like if we don't get this done,

then everything we work for is just a wash at this point. And so I like Alabama in this game to cover minus five and a half. Yeah, season is a failure. Yeah, season is a, they have so many things on the line. Season being over, you're playing for a conference title appearance. You're playing for a college football spot. This is, this week is all hands on deck. And in the Iron Bowl where the juices are already high.

Now it's even higher for Alabama. I got them winning and covering. And I like the Alabama Crimson Tide. Is Auburn going to ruin their season? Well, they can. I think the Jordan Hare Stadium voodoo stuff works against Alabama, but not in the way people think. People think, oh, that place is haunted. I've been to like a dozen of these games at Jordan Hare Stadium.

I'm well aware of what they're talking about. And Bama hardly ever performs well down there. But if you think about it, if voodoo was real, if black magic was real down there, the last two times Bama's gone down there, they have actively reached into Auburn's chest, twisted their hand, and pulled their heart out. Indiana Jones. That never would happen if you were cursed in that building. So I would argue maybe the dynamics changed. Maybe the talk should be, is there some kind of extra hurdle psychologically?

Auburn's got to overcome. Auburn's got to clear in their own building. No one said that this week. That's the way I would be thinking if I were tasked with providing the motivation, providing the talking points in the bulletin board material. But we're just tasked with picking the game. So I'm looking at what the model thinks because I brought it along with me this week. Model loves Alabama.

We got to get one of those. Got to get one of those. Christmas right around the corner. Models got Bama winning by 10. I think this number is low for two reasons. The Oklahoma game, firstly, has really made people look at Alabama as maybe a little wobbly, with good reason, but minus three turnovers in that game, which is a stater from a predictive nature that we think is randomized. And then the other part of it is what we just talked about. There's this thinking that, Manjuron Hare Stadium, like rivalry week.

That's a different game for Alabama. And so those two aspects have brought this number down to where I love it. I think Alabama, are you laying the point to win and cover there by over a touchdown? I think it's great value. However, that is all contingent on them starting relatively fast. Like they don't need to be up 14 to 3. They just need to start decently. No early turnovers.

Not that situation where like Auburn's got a two to one time of possession edge going into the half. Because then you're out in the deep end. It doesn't matter what a computer model says. Black magic, voodoo is real. But if they get out to a decent start, yeah, I like him. Because I think Auburn's ability to score is going to be pretty limited. Because the hidden aspect of all this stuff is Bama's defense has played really well. Played really well.

And as much as, you know, one quarterback looked good, deuce night last week. I think this is Ashton Daniels game. I think that was always the plan down there. It's to sit him for, I think it was Mercer last week. Sit him for the Mercer game. It's essentially two weeks to prepare for his Super Bowl. For Auburn's Super Bowl, this is really what. they have to play for.

They're trying to play spoilers, the beauty of rivalry games. I think, I think DeVore and Alabama will go in there and get the winning cover. I love it. Easy Alabama as well. Hey, I'm thinking out of Alabama as well.

Okay, so all lined at this point. We got Texas A&M. This is a big. Texas A&M at Texas. The line on this game, Texas A&M is favored minus two and a half. The over under on this game is 51.5. What is the model think?

Model thinks the number is almost dead on the money. We got A&M winning by three. Okay. Okay. And that's in Austin. By the way, no real fun facts on this one. Oh, yeah. I was, I was doing my best here because obviously Texas A&M leaves in, what, 2011 or 2012 to go to the SEC. That's when the game kind of stopped. It was played for a while.

It was the first time it was being played in 13 years. Yeah. Except for last year. Yeah, yeah, they played last year. Yeah. But in Austin. But they did have a long span when Texas was. I fucked up.

My fault. When Texas was in the Big 12. They were trying to get it back like in 2000. 18, I want to say the Texas student body had a vote for how much they wanted to play A&M. It was like a 96% favorable. We want this game back. And they did the same thing in early 2019, I believe in February with A&M. That favorability was like 86%.

There's this gentleman from San Antonio, a rep in San Antonio that was trying to write a bill. Didn't get it kind of died. The governor stepped in. He was trying to get a bill to pass. It kind of died. But then once Texas joined the SEC, the rivalries back and well. So they were trying to student by. they were trying to take it into their own hands in like again around 2018 it was kind of dying out they

couldn't get any widespread traction on it but now that they're both back in the conference we're getting this beautiful game and with implications at texanm being undefeated who have they played the SEC people are asking myself included hoops Texas on kind of a hot streak right now with arch manning like throwing the ball around the yard we'll get into that but this game this game is huge because tex is going to be out there hey we got a three loss we got a resume that shows that we should be in the That's going to happen. I love the chaos aspect of that and also as Texas A&M can they beat one of these You know above the toward the top SEC teams because who they beat? Auburn Mississippi State Florida Arkansas LSU South Carolina

Strategically leaving Missou out of there. Mizzou's a three loss of him but Mizzou is kind of their best win back up quarterback Backup quarterback yeah, missou yeah So where you going I'm going Texas I think this and I'm gonna go Texas money line I like Texas a lot this game I like takes a lot. Arch Manning, here's a fun style with Arch Manning in his first seven games, his first seven weeks. Four of them, most of them, he threw for under 200 yards. Since throwing for 132 against Kentucky, starting game eight, he's done for 346, 328, 251, and 389.

He's had 11 touchdowns and two interceptions and at least 30 attempts in each game. He's threw over 40, a couple of these games. And again, in those first seven, he only hit 30 attempts twice. So they're letting him throw the ball around. The problem is Texas A&M does have the highest sack percentage in the country. They will get after them a little bit. They're solid in the trenches. They have a good offensive line, good D line.

It will be tough, but I like, I love Texas money line here. I think this is the first loss Texas A&M is going to taste. And then there's going to be a little bit of question mark, a little bit of doubt about this team. Being a top four team in the college football playoff, they'll have a chance to prove it in the SEC championship. Probably against Bama. I think A&M loses that game as well. Wow. You're saying ban is frauds.

A&M. A&M is frauds. I don't think A&M's frauds. I just don't think they will maintain this level that everybody sees them at. Like I think they're a great team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they're a great team. You think an inferior schedule has propped them up a little bit.

Yes, yes. Wow. Making them a little fraudulent. Yeah, in that aspect of the top tier, a little fraudulent. But I'm not saying like this is a pig with lipstick. Like they're not a good football team. I do respect the resume that they have. They're not as good as people say.

making them frauds. Again, with the schedule that they've had, if you look at a preseason, this is going to be, this is a tough schedule. But now the way the year's played out, I'm like, all right, I feel like I have a couple of question marks with A&M. They've earned the right to be in all these conversations. They've earned the right to be undefeated. Marcel Reed's earned the right to be in the Heisman conversation. But I just have a little question mark about Texas A&M. And I think it starts to get exposed against Texas this weekend. You asked me one time, how do you sit there and talk about college football alone for an hour and a half? I feel like if we weren't here, you could have gone.

on another hour on this game. I've never been more proud of you. We're recording early in the week. You preface this entire prediction by saying, I really got nothing on this game. Actually, let me just slip a few things in there. And it's five minutes later. It's seven minutes later.

I know the origin story. I know Arch Manning's last four games. I know the political scene in the late 20 teens in the state of Texas and how this game was tried to get back, but then the governor stepped in. I don't even feel like you exhausted all your notes. I still feel like you got bullets in the chamber. You made a really good pick.

on the game, you just expose Texas A&M as total frauds. Well, also saying they're not frauds, but then explaining why they are frauds. I'm just saying there's nothing about them that's real. I hate everything about it. Not frauds, respectfully, they can die this week. Not only will they die

this week, they're also going to die next week as well. You know, he's talking enough for you. You picked a championship game as well. See ya. Will A&M still be in the playoffs? Don't know. A&M's going to lose her next two. Jeez. Marceau, he deserves to be a high-star position, but he'll lose these next two games in a big way.

If you thought the South Carolina first half was something, wait until it plays out over four quarters. So with the utmost trepidation, could I take Texas A&M to win this game and cover? Could I just present the counter argument? Absolutely. What's funny, before you do say that, I was looking at you, I kind of went from Taylor to you,

and just in the background, it caught my eye when you just that random shot that went South Carolina. I just see JP in a blur in my mission just shaking his head back there. JP's a king of like sitting out of my sight, and I just hear him multiple times on the show. That's crazy. Making loud, lip-smacking noises. Like, JP's the king of, like,

just having a soundboard behind me. And so I know exactly how JP feels how the show is going at all times. He's like an actual audience member out there to where he's giving you reactions and everything. When he's getting, what? When Josh was talking to me about whatever the airport situation, I'm explaining my side,

I just hear Jeeb go, it's crazy. Wow, dude. Wow. He always... He'd hear him just quietly go, what? And he's not miced. So you can't hear him on the feet because he's not miced. We hear him.

But when I dropped the South Carolina line, all I heard was... It's just the deflation. Okay. The way I look at this is, I've said, like, in five different A&M predictions on the show this year, I've said, man, I love that they've won different ways. They've won like a 17 to 6 game or something like that against Auburn. They won the 41 to 40 shoot out against Notre Dame. So they had like all seriousness.

They had that terrible first half against South Carolina came all the way back. So they've had to come from behind. They've had to win the slug fest. They've had to win the shootout. This kind of game's where I think that pays off. Like Texas on the road is really, really iffy. Texas at home's good team. So you've got to go in their building.

You've been skating on thin ice. It feels like a little bit, but you've kind of made it. But what you're worried about is the Oregon thing from last year. What if they're this year's Oregon? What if they peaked really early? And then they fade late. Which is a valid concern. I think that Texas has three losses for a reason.

And when I have a team that I think has multiple ways to beat you, including that pass rush, I know that's going to travel. And I know that that can give the Texas offensive line fits. And I think there may be a world where we watch this game if A&M wins in coverage where we say, man, like that first half against South Carolina sucked in the moment for them, it may have been the best wake-up call. It may have been like the jumper cables to the nipples, which you need sometimes. You need those sometimes.

And I think that was what that game was. So I think they're going to go in there. Not an easy win at all. Four quarter game. I think they're going to win. I think they're going to cover and they're going to go to Atlanta. If we'll see where you go. If I'm wrong, if you're right, I don't think they go to the SEC championship game.

I think the tiebreaker is Georgia would go. I believe that's how that works. Is that true? For SEC guys, is that? So A&M loses, Alabama wins. BYU's never come from behind conversation that we get checked on real hard. So we got to make sure that is correct. Can you look that up?

That was mercury waters. I'd gladly take the airport snub over getting a Brigham Young fact wrong. Because American Prime Evil, we know what they can do. We found out. That was a documentary all along. So Josh, if Georgia wins, Alabama wins and Ann Amble loses. Georgia's irrelevant. They're done with their conference schedule.

Okay, because it's not a conference game. But if Alabama wins and A&M loses. Alabama wins they're in. Georgia's in if Alabama loses and A&M loses. Ole Miss is win, Alabama loss, A&M loss. Texas A&M is win or Alabama loss.

How did Georgia and Ole Miss have the same outcomes? To be clear. You said... George's in if they win or lose but they need Bama and A&M to lose. They need both of them to lose? Correct. A&M needs to win or if they lose then Alabama needs to lose and Ole Miss also

needs to lose. Okay. So Does that make sense? If Bama wins and A&M loses, it's going to still be, it's going to be Bama and A&M. Lost. I don't know. I think that, the explanation. Okay, so A&M can still get in if they lose as long as Bama and. Okay, so A&M can still get in if they lose as long as Alabama or Ole Miss loses.

Okay. A&M is in with a win or an Alabama loss and Ole Miss loss. So they need both of those things to happen. So in other words, if Alabama wins the Iron Bowl, They're in. And A&M's in no matter what. A&M is in if Alabama, if they lose. If A&M loses, then they need Alabama and Ole Miss to lose to get in.

So like even if, so this would be if, let's just walk this through. So if A&M loses to Texas, brain damage. And Alabama loses to Auburn. It would be A&M versus Georgia, I believe. So who's in the SEC championship if Alabama wins? Alabama's in automatically if they win. A&M loses. That would be Alabama versus Georgia.

It looks like to me. Yes, that's correct. It would be Alabama, Georgia. Chaos. But honestly, if you think about it, if you're A&M, and I'm saying that they would lose the SEC championship in this hypothetical world,

you're sitting there as an 11-1 team not going to the conference championship game waiting to see what unfolds in the college football playoff. You're kind of in a better situation. Yeah. You don't buy, but... Unless, without a doubt in your mind, you're thinking you're going to go in and win the SEC championship,

which I'm sure A&M fans do believe that. Think about if Ole Miss wins the Egg Bowl, and Bama loses the Iron Bowl, and A&M loses to Texas. Ole Miss is going to Atlanta. We're not even talking about whether Lane's going to coach the playoff. We're talking about whether he's going to coach in the SEC championship game. Also, Mitch, you've got a really important email from the Flag Football Committee.

I'm not going to check that. I'm going to go A&M. I think I've been, I have to look back at the records, but I think every time, I've bet against Texas every time. Yep. And I've been successful every single time. Texas or A&M?

Except for, I bet on them for, I bet against Texas and I've been successful, except for the Red River robbery. Shoot up. Yeah. So I'll take A&M. I'll take A&M. I'll take Reed.

I love all the things you said about the how many times, how many ways they've won. He's fourth in the Heismanods at Van Duel coming into this week. This is where I got to have him make his move. Diego Pavia made his move last week. Diego Pavia has an opportunity to make his move this week. I think he has a chance to cement it if he goes off. Because they turn into a bit of an air rate off.

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The line on this game, Tennessee's favored by two and a half. The over under on this game is 65 and a half. Just a little fun fact, because I thought this is a fun one. I'm actually enjoying the fun facts. I didn't think I'd like it. Now I like it. From 1892 to 1927, Vanderbilt, when this game, the inception started of it, Vanderbilt went 19, 2, and 3 against Tennessee.

Then Tennessee goes and hires a gentleman by the name of, do you know, we're chef? Or do you know? Do what? We're talking about in 1926, Tennessee hires this gentleman, named Robert Neeland to quote even the score against Vanderbilt

and when Robert Neeland was the head coach in Tennessee because there's a couple years he took off but he'd come back Robert Neeland went 16, 3, and 2 I don't war I told you guys

they were starting rivalry game names in Mississippi coaches were going off to war yeah do you think you know it's crazy the year he took off they'd lose the Vandy yeah which makes you wonder did he regret it

Yeah. What's crazy is these stats that we, that you give, telling about how like 1900s, late 1800s, like boys were men. Yeah. And now it's 2025 and we're sitting here talking about college football. This is our job. Is it okay to, is it okay to boo a kicker publicly? I have, I borderline cried 15 times in the last three weeks because of gout.

These guys are going to war and working in like still meals. Their wars are maintaining the front light. Like there's cyber wars going on right now and we're sitting comfortably in this studio. We're just kind of hoping everything works out. We have no idea. But there's wars taking place right now via the internet. Yeah. A.I.

Crazy. American Prime Evil. Never more real. That's real. Daniel Paviev, he has a massive game against Tennessee. He will be, he will win the high school. It's going to be there to be had. It'll be there to be had.

Tennessee, Newland Stadium. We were there for the Tennessee Alabama game. It was probably the loudest environment I've ever seen. in college football. Diego Pavia, like he's taking the world by storm. His mom's out there grinding on a pole during a game going crazy. The whole Pavia family is just going nuts. Theo Vaughn has found himself in that situation.

I've been watching film with Vanderbilt, and I use this a few weeks ago, and I doubted them. The boys were in here yesterday, and they're like, are we just going to watch film and you're just going to pick Tennessee? I've been watching film on Bandi, and let me tell you, these boys have never been. been more screwed than they are this week. There's a lot of MAs on film, but I don't think there's a group of offensive linemen that play

the game harder than these five guys do. The transition they've had Diego through the air the last couple of games is the reason why I'm thinking Vanderbilt to cover this game plus two and a half. I think they're going to win. Oh, H. But I got, I think Vanderbilt's going to cover. Well, can I ask you a follow-up question? And you already picked, you already picked Michigan on the bus.

And I've retroacted you changed it. Because your feelings got hurt. That's not your true feelings. Anger is a mask of pain, is a mask of sadness. And you're sad right now, and that's okay. Onward. You're met at Clump. Like, be mad at Clump.

Go ahead. Tensions are high right here, Josh. You better pick Tennessee. I got to ask you a question. Go ahead. If Vanderbilt wins, they're 10 and 2. Do they make the playoff? Is your question?

That's my question to you. Not of Michigan beats Ohio State. Oh. Wow. Is that the scenario? I think I think it's a part of it. It's a scenario. There's going to be a 10-2 team that gets let out.

I know, but it's so, there'll be a lot of these teams that are like 10-2 will have these, you know. Miami. I have their arguments, Miami. Bring them young. You know what's going to happen if they don't get put in. But we don't talk about that.

Yeah. Like even if Ohio State beats Michigan, Vanderbilt being a 10 and 2 team, there's still a few different scenarios to where they don't make it. I think they're going to be pissed. I mean, they're going to be in a bad spot. They're going to be in a bad spot. Wow. Who you taking in this game?

Tennessee's laying two and a half. Is that the number we're going with? Models got him winning by three. I believe last week, I was very scared for Vanderbilt. Like, Kentucky's made a lot of noise. They had won three. a row Kentucky was quietly one of the hotter teams in the country that no one was paying attention to. Then you're watching, you're looking on Instagram and Diego's everywhere but Nashville.

And you've got Clark Lee involved in every job but the Vanderbilt job. And I'm worried about distractions. I'm worried about focus. They put the laser on Kentucky's forehead last week. There was never a doubt in that game to where, I mean, Tennessee just got a big win over Florida. Florida dead body of a team. So they just went down there and beat on it for four quarters. and that was fun, that was a nice tune-up.

I thought I was going to solidly be Tennessee here. As I walked in this morning, I'm only very slightly Tennessee. And if I'm only very slightly Tennessee, and Diego and Diego's mom and Theo Vaughn, everyone's riding over there. And a playoff spot's on the line. For all I know, Vanderbilt's never going to be in this position again.

I'll go with you. I'll take the points. Vanderbilt went outright. I can't believe I just. So just so Jack can hear this, Tennessee can win still. and we would still be right. Sure.

2726. So what we're picking, Tennessee, there's still an option where Tennessee wins. Yeah. But he just said right before you said that. He says, I got Vanderbilt winning outright. Oh, well, that changes everything. You are.

You are taking Tennessee to win and then banding points. Tennessee can't win if you take Vanderbilt out right. What's that? Jack is geared up ready to go. Geared up. Look, I, Jack, I do love you. Okay.

And I'm a fan of Tennessee football. I truly am. In this game, I'm rooting for a story. And the story that I'm rooting for is Vanderbilt over these last two years coming on the scene in college football and becoming a team you have to respect. And the only guy you can think about when you think of Vanderbilt, you can be on the East Coast, West Coast. You hear Vanderbilt, it's Diego Pavia.

And this dude right now is sitting in the top three in Heisman because he has about 3,000 passing yards, over 600 rushing, 34 total touchdowns. And he set up for a moment to walk in Neeland Stadium, one of the most hostile stadiums in the country. For an in-state, you know, probably isn't like seen as much of a rivalry. This year it feels like a rivalry because Vanderbilt's a good football team. And Tennessee doesn't want to walk out of that stadium thinking they just lost to the little bro down the road. Diego Pavia becoming the Heisman in this moment, having a game, whether it's anywhere three to five touchdowns,

having his moment where he becomes the hero. Vanderbilt becomes this story to where they're kicking in the door for the college football playoff. They might still be waiting on the outside, but that's the way I would love to see them in the year. To see Pavia end his career, to see potentially Clark Lee before he goes off to somewhere else. Not saying it's going to happen, but that is a potential. And what Vanderbilt has done over the last two years, I'm rooting for that because if I look at Tennessee winning, Tennessee, they want to win because they just want to beat down.

They want to beat on their little. They want to keep the stuff going. There's no, like, real thing beyond this game of Tennessee wins. And for those, like, for those reasons, that's why I'm going with Vanderbilt here. I'm going to take Vanderbilt. I'm not going to take him to just cover. I'm going to take him to win outright because I'm rooting for the story of Vanderbilt football, the city of Nashville, and Diego Pavia to win the Heism.

Because I think it'd be all time. And the point of the thing you said, like, after this season, Clark Lee most likely leaves. Diego Pavia goes to the NFL. And I think everything kind of resets back to where it was. There could be a clump in the, he's in the, gutter now with recruits and everything else. There could be a five-star quarterback who may or may not commit to Vanneville. But this he stayed committed to Vanderbilt if Clark Lee goes and takes a head coaching job somewhere else. And all to say if this five-star quarter, if say they have an awesome

recruiting class, say it doesn't reset and Vanderbilt continues to be a respected team in the SEC. It's going to be because of Clark Lee. Who's the, who's the other guy that they bring? Because everybody talks about Clark Lee, but who's the guy that also came with Diego? You got Tim Beck. Tim Beck. Tim Beck. Jerry Kill. Jerry Kill. Jerry Kill. Clark Lee. It'll be because of those coaches in Diego Pavia put them in this conversation. And they'll get to carry on that's legacy. That's a legacy.

Yeah. What you're laying it out is you could watch the Olympics or you could watch WrestleMania. But if you want the story, you're more likely to see it when you're watching WrestleMania. Like you want a WrestleMania ending instead of an Olympic ending. I mean, the Olympics is real sport. The Olympics, it could get sideways. A guy could win by 10 stride. you want the story. Yeah. And the story would be Vandy climbing the ladder in Neeland Stadium

and grabbing the belt with everything on the line. And you forced Big Brother to play spoiler and they failed in their own building. Yeah. Yeah. You want that. In Neeland Stadium too, that atmosphere is going to be electric, man. Yeah, it is. It's going to be awesome. So yeah, that's where I'm rolling boys. Onward. The game. Oh, this is it right here. The greatest rivalry in all of sports. Do you believe that? I will say yes. Yeah. I will say yes.

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Ohio State, I think it's 9.5 But it says in the card here. It went back up to 10 and a half. All right. Ohio State minus 10 and a half. Total points in the game is 44.5 points. Two teams, incredible defenses, one offense. They've got two aliens on both sides.

This game, this is 130. Do you want to give a- Can I, I do have a point? I was even going to try to interrupt you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Spoiler, I'm going Michigan money line. All right, we can do the pump up things, all that I want, but this game just means...

These two teams first met in 1897. They've played annually all but once since 1918. The one time they didn't was because of the COVID year. I have a few COVID stats that are coming up with these games. Go ahead. This game's been played at the end of the regular season since 1935. And in 2000, ESPN ranked this game as the greatest North American rivalry in sports. ever. Those were my son.

You got it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wish, like, the South kind of has some of these some of these fun little tidbits and stories. I feel like the Michigan, having all these games since, like, 1918, they played annually every year. Are you familiar? Every year.

Are you familiar? Over 100 years, bro. I know. There's a 136 meeting between these two teams. Root beer was made in 1990. Root beer was made in 1990. Thank you, JP. this day. Same year.

Hovey, last name, Hovey? Yeah, Evelyn Hovey. The same year that Evelyn Hovey was born, 1919. Incredible. Are you familiar with the 10-year war? The years, what decade was that? This is 19, this is 1969. Bo Schenbeckler's first year at the University of Michigan.

They're ranked number 12 in the country. They go in against the number one team, Ohio State, against Woody Hayes, Woody Hayes is the head coach. Some good years. Bo Schembeckler, his mentor was Woody Hayes. And so he left to go to the University of Michigan.

They were, I think, 13.5 point underdogs in this game. They go to Columbus. They have six interceptions in that game. And they end up winning that game. And that is like the first spark of what turned into like the 10-year war

that really set like Ohio State and Michigan off onto like this hated crazy rival. Like in that time, Michigan, every time they run out of their stadium, there's only one way in and one way out in Michigan City, and you've been there before. And they hold up the MGO Blue banner. And every football player runs, they tap the thing.

Ohio State comes out first, and they tear down the banner during this time. Like that type of way. Ohio State beat the shit out of Michigan one time, and instead of kicking the PAT, they go for two. Woody Hayes in his press conference after the game, they say, hey, why did you go for two? And his answer was because I couldn't go for three.

like that's the type of pettiness and the hate that's taking place in this game like the last the last four years mission has won this game before that Ohio State won 18 out of last 20 was that is that a correct stat 18 in the last 20 your boy was part of one of those wins like this game is everything and as much as you like you hate Ohio State the reason why there's so much hand both sides is there's a level of respect like last year I sat here with a shell of word saying we're going to go in there that we're going to shock the nation where 20-5-point underdogs end up being correct in that. But in that moment when you don't have a passing game,

it's like I'm kind of just saying things and like, you know, staying in the batters box for my team. They end up winning that game, going after Ryan Day. Like Brian Hartline, it's his first year being the O.C. He's done an incredible job recruiting the wide receivers. They're a wide receiver year. They have Jeremiah Smith, Cardinal Tate, who are, you know, top five picks in this NFL draft.

Are they going to play? Are they not? Jeremiah Smith does a podcast every single week. His podcast that came out yesterday. He said he's going to play in this game, is what you want to keep this rivalry intact. There's like a, there's so much that rides on this game. It's not just like this year. If Michigan wins this game, they make the playoffs. And if Ohio State wins, it's like they finally have done something that has taken their national championship away in a lot of

ways. People, every time when they won the last championship, they go to celebrate. Everyone's like, yeah, but you couldn't beat Michigan. You can't beat Michigan. And against a team that had no passing game made you play their version of football and you want and you cannot beat them in a toughness battle trenches battle so now michigan's a better football team they were last year we have a uh a quarterback that has gone on rich is in and said they you've never seen a quarterback like me goes up to lebron james says y'all never going to win again he's had a up and down year to say the least but our passing game is much better than it was last year uh they bring matt patricia from ohio state their defense is number one in all of college football. And buddy, as much as it seems like this is Ohio State,

like there's something about the winged helmet and Ryan Day and his ability, he just goes, he gets men and blacked. His brain goes crazy. And this is, this is, I'm just telling you, like there's not a whole lot of things you can say, we have this better or we have that better, but this game at home, this is Michigan. This is Michigan winning this game. There's a world where Michigan wins his game by multiple touchdowns. I mean, Julian's saying, is he not a freshman as well? Sure is. Yeah.

Well, he's a first year starter. He's a first year starter. He's a retro freshman. Has he had his freshman game? Has he played in the game before? No. Like, there's a world. He's in the Heisman conversation.

He's in the Heisman conversation. 80% completion rating. However, he's got two aliens. Like, there's a world where he just fucks up. The same thing goes for Bryce under. We're like, this game could go crazy on both sides. But this game, this game, this game, means Michigan, regardless of what the line says.

I think he finds out the experience of this game, but opening, freshman quarterback, opening with Texas, obviously seasons played out how they played out. But that feeling and moment that he had there, I think he got a taste. He got a taste of where it's not, this won't be the first time he's feeling something like that. It'll be the first one because he's experiencing the game for the first time. It doesn't come close to Michigan. Ohio State. I understand.

I'm just talking about for a freshman. It's the greatest library in all of sports. I'm talking about for a freshman walking into their stadium. Winter, spring, summer. You don't go a day at Michigan, right, Ohio State without hearing, like, we have to be in Ohio State's terms of the team up north or too scared to even say our name. Like, there's a ticker in the wait room that counts down to the second when we play the game.

Like, you are told about it over and over and over again. You can't step in these buildings and not spend a couple hours there without hearing about the team up north or Ohio State, any of the state. any of the stuff. It is, dude, it's everything. It's everything. We should have won it in 2012, 2013.

Now, I will say this. The line is what it is. If you guys want to go out, I'm not going to hold it against you guys. For the sake of your record or whatever, like, there's no bad blood. That's bait. No, I swear to God. Josh has bait. I swear to God.

Because I know your computer is saying the number is just right right now. So it's all good. This doesn't have to be a trenches game where I need everybody behind. Like this is you guys pick whatever you want. We've seen how the last four years have gone and I expected to stay the status quo for the last four years. I'm not, this is not, I'm not joking. I'm taking Michigan with the points.

Okay. Respectfully. Because I am rooting for Michigan. You're my guy. I want to see this. Like I would love to see Michigan upset Ohio State again because as a as a third party getting to watch this hate between both fan bases unfold. It's so entertaining to me.

And if it happened again, like, oh my God. There's just, I just think about Ohio State, and they're an incredible football team. Outside of last week the performance you guys had against Maryland, I'm thinking Michigan, like this game that's about to happen, Ohio State's going to blow the doors off of this team. The way you guys played last week and the momentum that's shifting towards this game, I do believe that Michigan has a shot to win this.

game. It's so hard to not sit here and think about the victory lapse. Similar to a few weeks ago when we were talking about Alabama Vanderbilt, when the minute they beat Georgia, there's not even celebration happening because they can't wait to get their pause on Vanderbilt because of all the circles that Vandy's been taken around Alabama. This one feels wildly different. You got kids at schools reenacting the scene of planning the flag in Ohio State. Like Ryan Day, for the ego of Ohio State to get involved in last year's game and try to win in a certain way physically because they knew Michigan couldn't run the football and they wanted to kind of prove a point versus like going out there and just winning the game and playing to your strengths and playing Ohio State football,

them walking away losing that game. This is a game that's haunted that entire team. You know, obviously for the last four years, but most importantly this last year, I do think Ohio State is just licking their chops to try and put both hands to get both hands around Michigan. throat, but I'm riding with you. I'm taking Michigan to cover, but just to caution Michigan fans, this Ohio State team, in my opinion, is going to come out differently. I can't wait to watch this game because, again, I want fireworks. I want chaos. I would love to see Bryce Underwood have a game because he had a stretch here before this past week where he didn't throw for a touchdown in a few games. Like, I'd love to see him have a moment because he is a specimen of an athlete.

Like, this running game continue to improve, like going against an incredible Matt Patricia. defense. Like again, people kind of have a question mark with Ohio State. They have an easy cupcake schedule. They've taken care of business against the spread. They kind of handled all these football teams. I think the biggest thing that it's hard to just, it's hard to talk about a team defensively, but this defense is for real. I'm excited for this game. Michigan with the points, this is going to be electric. This is going to be electric. Ohio State, the best rush offense they've played all year was Penn State and their 60th in the country. There it is. Michigan's top 10.

There it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we have six freshmen starting on offense. We don't have a player on our roster that's ever lost to Ohio State. And in Ohio State, they don't have a player on their roster that's ever beaten Michigan. They don't know the feeling. Like you're talking about hands around the throat. Like Alabama knows what it's like to choke out Vanderbilt with one hand.

Ohio State does even know how to even go about the process to beat this team. They don't have any player that knows how to do that because they have it in four years. to the point where Jack Soror seniors last year who could have gone to the NFL, multiple, stayed for their senior year because we have to beat Michigan. Michigan has 18 guys to get drafted by the NFL. We cannot throw the ball, and they still lost at home.

They can't figure it out. The opportunity's there. And the thing that makes this game amazing is, yeah, Michigan's won the last four. Ohio State wins this next one. It's like, you guys are the King of Castle right now. there's not like I'll sit there with my shell of a self and say yeah but we win the last four but it won't mean anything because the last game that was won was won by a hawk state and that's just how it is

there's not like you don't but with this fan base it never stops and never stops like if a hawley wins this game it ain't you're the king of the castle like it'll keep going that way but then it's just it's Michigan like if they can't win the natty they'll they'll be back that's what makes this rivalry awesome it's beautiful so many five sirs going to meet this game club god boy What do you got on this game, Josh? I didn't say a word. I sat here 10 minutes. Beautifully said.

I didn't need to add anything. But I could put my thumb up to my pulse right now, and it increased a little bit. You know how when you're sitting down, you can feel your heart rate? So I feel it right now with good reason. Everything you said about this game, beautifully, eloquently put, it's spot on.

I grew up in the South. I watched this game from a distance, but I didn't get to experience it until 2021. I've experienced four of these. Everyone has been a Michigan win. Some say I'm responsible for the street. I don't say that. Some say that.

I don't say that. So I've said I have a Michigan problem. This has been the Michigan problem. I've picked against them four years in a row. I've had really, really good logic. But last year was the one that really messed me up a little bit. It was last year, if you put yourself in the shoes of Ryan Day, of Chip Kelly, of Jim Knowles, Like you've got a all-star cast of coaches.

You've got all-star cast of players returning. You've got an all-star cast of players. You've got home field. You've got sun. Like weather's not going to be an issue. I remember the forecast was bad earlier in the week. And then it clears up and it's sunny. It kickoff.

So that's not going to get in your way. And you're favored by three touchdowns. That was supposed to be like an afternoon that was a coronation. It was supposed to be an afternoon where, you know, Buckeye fans kind of came together. We're going to have a fun four quarters in the shoe. know we'll beat Michigan we'll finally get the stupid little streak out of the way and then we'll go on to the playoff when the game started to unfold last year the way it did and then you know

you're still like it's a it's a close score at halftime but i was in college station because i was going to the texas game and i'm thinking to myself in the hotel room they're going to pull away in the second half like good good for michigan for making this a fight and i'm sitting there at halftime like hey this has been amazing but the haws it will probably pull away in the second half like every logical person in the world thinks that because you hadn't played a great game. Michigan didn't even play a great game. That was the thing I took away from it is Michigan like clunked their way to a win as a three touchdown favorite, which meant Ohio State like there was something mental at that point where they really couldn't get over the hump. And when

that game went into the fourth quarter, puckermeter goes eight, nine, puckermeters at 10. And then you throw a pick down near the goal line. That's supposed to be ballgame. Michigan got close. This was a way bigger scare than we thought it was going to be. But Jack Sawyer, picked it off. That's why you're a senior. That's why you come back. That's his moment. He just defined his legacy.

This team's about to define their legacy. Three and out, Michigan against the ball. A couple of key third down conversions. Kick the field goal. Ohio State's done. I've never been more shocked. I don't think, given the circumstances, given the stakes, I don't think I've ever been more shocked,

watching the outcome of a game. And then I had to go on air the next day because I had picked Ohio State for the fourth year in a row. And I had to own it. And I swore to myself that day. Don't care what spread is next year. Don't care what the dynamics are. I will take Michigan.

I've never wavered off that. I don't care. I could give you 37 reasons why Ohio State should win this game. I could have given you 57 last year. I will no longer be proven wrong by Michigan winning this game. If I'm going to be proven wrong,

it's going to be because Ryan Day in Ohio State frankly do what they should do. So I'll take Michigan to cover. I'll take Michigan to win the game and have no problem doing it. 82% chance of snow. know in this game Saturday. 82% chance.

High of 30 degrees. And to... That's Michigan football. And you know, because Ohio State, they've been wildly successful. Like, again, they'll be in the same position again next year, I'm sure. But losing again to Michigan for a fifth time in a row. That's a half decade. We own them then.

That is, it's truly become a game where, yeah, throw, like, throw everything out the window. Like, you don't know. Like, there's this team. Now you can start talking about curses. You can start talking about this, that, and the other. Oh, I've already started. Nobody can wrap their mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But again, if it happens again, I don't see, I don't see how you get out of it. Kiff into Ohio State. Kiff into Ohio State. Maybe just a straight up trade. There was a coach. Like, do you think Ryan Day being fired gets brought up again if they can't beat Michigan? Which is crazy. And I love for you to talk about the article you read.

But there's a coach from Ohio State. His last name is Cooper, I believe. John Cooper. John Cooper. an incredible record at Ohio State. Incredible. He went one and four against Michigan, and he got fired because the standard is to beat Michigan at Ohio State. He lost his job because he had, I think he had nine, 10 win seasons, couldn't beat Michigan, and he got fired because of that. Ryan Day's record versus Michigan, one and four. Yeah, man. He could have, after this week,

the worst record of any Ohio State coach. There was an article last week that was essentially he was breaking down Jim Trussle's record, then how Urban Meyer takes over at Ohio State. Urban Meyer does what he does at Ohio State, and then the whole Ryan Day being on third base, like he's taking on a program where who knows it because he's going to live up to the standard. And the article basically proving right

that Ryan Day didn't live up to the standard. He exceeded it and created a new standard for how much he's won at Ohio State. But yeah, even that, like for fans who I think we're talking way too much about this game. They don't get it. And yeah, they don't get it. Or they just hate.

And I see that. Like I understand that world where you just hate seeing Ohio State fans and Michigan fans and all this pompous back and forth, arrogance. They're all hating each other saying X, Y, and Z. If you can just remove yourself from that and see this game for, yeah, this is the best rivalry for you never know what's going to happen. With all the history behind it, the 10-year war, coaches truly like, it will, it would get brought up, it will get brought up. Michigan beats Ohio State this weekend. Like, hey, do you fire Ryan Day? because you can't beat one football team.

I'm going to tell you that everybody across the board hates. They hate each other. I'm going to tell you, I don't, like years from now, when I think back about the 2024 Ohio State team, it would be impossible for me to think about the national title without thinking about the Michigan game. Right. And you would, you could come back at me and say, well, do you say that about any other team that lost a game?

No, no other team plays a game like this. But Ryan, I have sat every spring I go to Columbus, Ohio. Every spring, I sit face to face with Ryan Day, the past four years. I've asked him about this game. The past four years, he's looked me dead in the eye and says, that's part of being the head coach at Ohio State. If you can't beat them, that's part of it. I got to wear that. I've got to accept that.

I'll give him credit. He's never run from it. He's never ducked it. So he gets it. That's part of being Ohio State when you commit there. You know Michigan's on the schedule every year. You know what the dynamic of that rivalry is. They don't take kids that don't get it.

Nor do they at Michigan. So it fundamentally alters my viewpoint of your season if you lose this game, no matter what you do the rest of the way. And I know like a lot of Ohio State fans tried to comfort themselves because they wanted to win the national championship. So they tried to like devalue the impact of the loss. If it were Michigan in that position, Ohio State fans will be saying the same thing I'm saying right now.

So it's just it's just the logo that you're wearing on the chest that makes you take the respective side. Because you know good and well, if you're an Ohio State fan and you've run up four in a row on them, but otherwise they're rolling. And otherwise they went on to win a national championship. You'd be the first ones to say, couldn't beat us though, man. I mean, what does it really mean? If you can't win your biggest game, but then there's this man-made playoff.

Because this game, God created this game. Man created the playoff. So you can't win the game that's natural. You can't win the game that's been there since the dinosaurs roamed the earth, basically. Yeah, I mean, we created this college football playoff and it's really corporate. and you played in like these sanitized neutral site NFL environments. Good for you. You got a third chance. You lost two games because they expanded the playoff. You got another shot and finally your third time around the merry-go-round, it clicked for you. But you couldn't beat us. You'd be saying that to

Michigan. If you were an Ohio state fan and you had lost four or you'd won four in a row, you'd be saying that to Michigan. So I'm just telling you my viewpoint on it. I grew up in Harris County, Georgia. I had no allegiance to either team. It fundamentally impacts my view of a team when they lose this game no matter what they achieve the rest of the way. That's how big the game is. Hell yeah. Awesome. I can't wait. I can't wait. And I just want to give advice. Like if you're, if you're up there, you know, and if you're an Ohio State fan, you're a Michigan fan, and you win the game. Congrats to you in advance. If someone says, hey to you in the airport, chat them up a little bit afterwards. Yeah, chat them up. You never know. When a new friend,

can be around the corner. Yeah. All right, we're going to get into the rest of rivalry weekend with this rapid fire-ish segment. We have, what, 11 games? Yeah, we just got 11 games to go. Just hang there with us. All right. First one up. Do you want me to go through him?

Yeah, go ahead. Michael O'OBultra. Superior is worth playing for. Right now, the record is, I'm up. Is it 7-6 or am I up? I'm up two, right? I think Taylor's up two. I'm 8-6.

Against Will. I think it's 9-6. Time-out, time-out. We thought it was tied. Will, this one means everything. Now it's not a day. He's healthy now. Now it's time to take the governor off on this one.

Oh, yeah, now you got to take me out? Do you want to do the whole, I'm going this? No, no, no, no, no. Because that one, it's like, again, you were, we were talking potential surgery. We were talking potential, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this could creep up to a sharp. I can die. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This one, you're healthy, you're walking.

What is the record, eight and six? So right now, eight, six, superiors worth playing for, Michael Obrotra. Yes! I needed that one. I needed that one. Hey, superiors worth playing for, happy Thanksgiving. All right, first game up, we got number four, Georgia at number 23 Georgia Tech. Georgia is 13.5 point favorites over under 59 and a half.

So this game is considered clean, old-fashioned hate. In 1891, the first known hostilities with these two programs, Georgia, the University of Georgia, their schools magazine declared the colors to be old gold, black, and crimson for Georgia. And then there's one of their first coaches. his name is Dr. Charles Herdy, felt gold, the coach for Georgia, felt gold was too similar to yellow, and the yellow symbolized cowardice. Georgia Tech chooses old gold and white as like a slap in the face to Georgia. And then after their game, in 1893, two years later after this magazine and choosing the old gold and, hey, it's cowardice,

Georgia Tech chooses old gold as one of their colors to slap Georgia in the face. They play in 1893. Georgia Tech wins. And coach Charles Hurdy, the coach for Georgia Bulldogs, removed the old gold from their school's colors. You don't see that anymore. You don't see teams changing their colors anymore after a loss. 1893.

I love it. I'm so glad you went through and did this while George Kittle was bodybagging. Yeah, I know. It fires me up. I'm taking Georgia. I take Georgia. Yeah, Georgia 13 and a half. They're playing this game in Mercedes Ben Stadium.

Yes, they are. To give Georgia Tech $12 million extra dollars. The tradeoff is going to be George is going to win the game in cover. And they may be right back in that building the next week to play conference title game. Yeah. Beautiful. AACC, man. Next game, number 13 Miami at number 24 Pitt. Miami's six and a half point favorites over under 50 and a half. You boys take it. I got to do a forecast check right quick. I'm going to take, so not a whole lot of fun facts. This isn't like Miami's rivalries is Florida State. Pitt believes they're in a rivalry with Penn State and Notre Dame. So these two schools

playing this is just like a, this is just an ACC game. I'm going to take Pitt to cover here, six and a half. I'm one and one, uh, betting against Pitt. We're going to fight it on Saturday. I'm going Miami, minus six and a half. Carlson Beck, big game. Big game on the line. How is it going to be in these big games? So everything's on the line from Miami here. We saw Notre Dame go up there and handle pit. We've got temperatures in the mid-30s here, a slight chance of afternoon snow showers. We're going to watch Miami in frigid conditions with their season on the line. Just went up to Virginia Tech and handled business second consecutive road game seventh consecutive game they're playing I've had this one circled all year I've been worried about them but I will take Miami to win in cover

next game Arizona at Arizona State Arizona one and a half point favorites over under 48 and a half known as the duels in the desert they play for the territorial cup it's the oldest rivalry trophy in college football it's been known to have a lot of different nicknames the battle of Arizona the grand canyon rivalry not to be be confused with northern Arizona and southern Utah. Because I was just about to say that. Okay, yeah, go ahead. Desert Wars, Cactus War, the Phoenix and Tucson rivalry. The reason it was called the Phoenix and Tucson rivalry was due to both schools being

located in the state's two largest metropolitan areas, with Arizona State being in Tempe, Phoenix, East Suburb, and Arizona located within the Tucson City limits. I have Arizona this game. I'm taking Arizona State. Coach Dillingham, I arrive with you, brother. Also, Charlie Raygo. Yeah. Have you heard about Charlie?

No. I was watching one of the games the other day, and they're like, someone was stepping in as a special team's coach. Apparently, Charlie Legals having health issues. He's had to step away. I called him, texted him, no response back, so I have no idea how Charles doing.

Oh, damn. That's heartbreaking, yeah. You speak out of me. You've told some good stories. Yeah, I'm without Charlie. I'm not in the position. I was in football. So definitely.

I think the wrong team's favorite here. Arizona State is going to win this game handedly. Mike, can you get in the coffee, please? One of those little black boys? next game Clemston at South Carolina JP will be in attendance South Carolina is minus two and a half

over under 46 and a half the Palmetto Bowl it ran uninterrupted from 1909 to 2019 making it the second largest or second longest continuous rivalry in Division 1 football only behind

Minnesota and Wisconsin and why they had to why it stopped in 2019 COVID. Yep. Minnesota, they have a trophy game against, I think everybody. It's Floyd of Rosdale against Iowa. It's the greatest trophy in sports.

No, it's not. It's the only trophy I've got on my set. South Carolina, taking them to win and cover. People have died in this rivalry, by the way. It's the way it should be. JP. Like, they do the Tiger Burn. Is it called Tiger Burn?

Tiger Burn, and then they do like a mock funeral for the cock. And in 2007, in an Ocean House, I want to say they were doing the tiger burn and it caught fire and people Yeah, there were casualties Could I just could I just 2008 did they do it again? I believe they talked

They switched it to tear down the tiger The tiger tear down or something like that I I realized they got back to burning Do what? Yeah yeah It only happened that year when that happened They're like all right let's just do the tiger tear down

And then the next year they went back to the tiger burn Probably lost huh We weren't 2009 That okay Wow Terry Bowden right Tommy Bowden right Tommy Bowden Tommy Bowden You have never really lived until you've listened to when William Compton

dead serious talk about a funeral for the cock And then you glance over and Clay Matthew's mouth is wide open Oh shit, please you. He's just what? What? They had a what for a what? Yeah. Fun fact about Clay, you know, he went 6 and O in our NFL show.

Well, you took a lot of favorite money lines. So no reason to clap. I'm going to take South Carolina. This is a ride with JP. This is you ride with your boys. Yeah. Do you feel like you owe it to him? Because I feel like I owe it to him.

Yeah, I don't, I think do I owe you? I don't own nothing. I owe it to you. I love you. I've said some things that make you deflate. I've said something that make you go, man, what are you talking about? I'm picking South Carolina to win. Shane's got to have this.

Clemsonsonson's been hot, but that's okay. People thought they were last year. South Carolina will win this game at home. They will defend the cockpit. Also, I don't know if you heard Jack in the corner here. This is insane. This is insanity. It's way different.

It's way different. Well, did you give your pick? It is. Did you give your pick? Vanderbilt, Tennessee is not a real rivalry. It's not a real rivalry. Next game. It's already because Vanderbilt's good this year.

Tennessee just lost them. Florida State at Florida. Florida, minus one and a half favorites. 51.5 over under. These two teams first met in 1958 and have played every year except 2020 due to COVID. I'll take Florida. I'm going to take Florida State. Wow.

You like what you've seen from them lately, huh? Yeah, I kind of like it a lot. And just knowing, like, there's just also bad taste on my mouth with clump and this Florida bullshit and this fandom and trolling and they got mopped by Tennessee. That's a good point. Fuck. I'm just taking Florida State. You know, we've seen...

They played Friday last week? This is the punple pond. Yes. Oh, yes. We're special teams exchange ever. They're dead. Yeah, I'll take Florida. You're going Florida.

we've seen some coaches sign extensions like Luke Fickle signed his extension and all of a sudden Wisconsin starts winning games. So they did announce they're going to bring Mike Norval back. The statement essentially read, we can't afford to fire you yet. We're going to let you hang around one more year. A little more wordy than that, but that was the gist of it. The model for some reason, and I don't know why, has this as like a 60% cover probability for Florida State. So that reason and that reason alone is why I'm tailing you because I feel terrible.

about this terrible. So this game, I wrote down all the spreads and everything else. This game right here, I have both team circle. Yep, because I don't, you know, I'm thinking, what we're gonna do you should put, a thing to my mind. Maybe put an X through both teams,

but I'm gonna, I'm so tired of this game not mattering. This game should be a huge game. I know. Florida State, I'll take them. Next game, UCLA at number 19 USC, USC, minus 21 and a half over under 59.5. So I searched far and wide for fun fact on this game and this is, this is all I got.

It is annually anticipated as the biggest college football game in the state of North Carolina. Oh. North Carolina? All right. Wait. You're doing my UCLA, USC? A UNC? Oh, was this UCLA USC?

Yeah. Oh, my fault. Hold on my next one on my, look, right below. Yeah, that's fair. Right below Florida State. Right below Florida. Yeah, this is when George came in and just shocked the world with me. Yeah.

What the fuck? So which one is this? UCLA USC. Before you give a... I don't, I don't got nothing on this team. I don't got nothing on this game. I'll take the Trojans. I'll take the Trojans to cover this one.

Let me see if I circled anything. Much different team at home. Such a dominant team at home. There we go. Another one. UCLA USC both circled, so I don't really... What's the model think on this? UCLA plus the points.

Think USC wins comfortably. UCLA plus the points. If it's 21... What are we getting? What number are we getting? 21 and a half? I'll take UCLA plus points. I didn't realize it was 21.

and a half. UCLA plus the points. There's still than a win, though. by two touchdowns. UCLA plus the points. Now will North Carolina at NC State. Oh, I headed the game.

The biggest game in California annually here. I searched far and wide for some fun facts on this game and this is all I have. It is annually anticipated as the biggest college football game in the state of North Carolina.

Wow. Let's see what I got here. I don't have anybody circled. I have on the right I have under written out. I'm taking the under. 48.5 is the over under. This is actually one of my favorite

bets of the week. North Carolina plus the points. All things are Florida plus the points. Yeah. Next game, number five, Oregon at Washington. Oregon is minus six and a half, over under 51.5. The Cascade Clash, the fight for the forest. They play for the John Barrett Cup.

It is one out of 25 of the most played rivalries in football history. Started in 1900. And in 1911, a quarterback by the name a wee coil executed the bunk play. The bunk play where he took off his leather helmet, his leather headset, hit it under his shirt and pretended that that was the ball. That's why we were on us. They got them. They got them.

Last week I said that Oregon, Dan Lennie, does not make a habit of covering. He's heard us a lot on the show. He obviously proved me wrong. texted him solo, said, hey, good win. Way to cover. Just thumbs up it. So I will take Oregon minus six and a half. What's the model like here?

Model thinks... Part of me kind of likes Washington. Model thinks the number's about right. Jed Fish's name is out there for some jobs. Just FYI. It's a little quieter. Look, if I'm going to mention Lincoln Riley's name, I've got to mention everyone's name,

only to be fair. Jed Fish's name is out there. I think Oregon kind of, you know, like the downhill momentum thing is real with them. This is a tough trip up there. I think defensively they're going to limit Washington enough. I'll take Oregon to win. And I'll take them to cover anything under a touchdown.

And I will say, I sat in Oregon's team meetings Friday. And a lot of the talk that, you know, people like you have been doing about their inability to cover. It's been heard. Oh, good. It's been heard. Love that. I'll go Oregon as well. Happy Thanksgiving.

Happy Thanksgiving. Next game, LSU at number eight, Oklahoma. Oklahoma minus 10 and a half over under 36 and a half. No real history here. Fun facts. Oklahoma, my son. 10 and a half. Okay. My notes here say Oklahoma minus 10.5. I think Oklahoma woman by two touchdowns. LSU season is completely mailed in. Half their players aren't playing. And I mean,

they got to go to Oklahoma for this game. I don't even think they're interested in making the trip. The newness is worn off. A little interim coat sugar high is worn off. War off quickly. I'll take Oklahoma. LSU may not score 10 and a half. So I think Oklahoma covers 10 and a half. Is this one of your favorite bets the weekend? It's not one of my favorites. Only a 52% cover probability, but I personally like it. Okay. Free my boy, BK. He's free.

Free my boy. I know I talk about my dad that way all the time. Second or last game, Virginia Tech at number 17, Virginia. Virginia minus nine and a half, over under 52.5. Is this a chaos game? I like a chaos game. I like Virginia Tech here to cover. Any notes?

No. That's bullshit on me. I'll ride for chaos. I'll do Virginia Tech to cover. I'll take Virginia Tech to cover. I think Virginia wins by about six or seven. Final game. 30.

The Commonwealth Clash. So what's referred to as? The final game on the slate, Iowa at Nebraska. Iowa minus six and a half, over under 39.5. Under looks good. Under looks good. So does Nebraska to cover. Fun fact about Iowa, Nebraska is people can stand in both states

by straddling the line in the middle of the Bob Curry pedestrian bridge. over the Missouri River. Whomst amongst us has it? Fun fact. Who's born in Missouri? There's 50 states that are connected and you can probably do that in most of them.

Straddle the line. But not on a bridge. Come on. Not on a bridge. Not over the Missouri River. Have you heard about the four corners? Yeah. Okay.

Who's born in Missouri? You said four states. You were born in Missouri. What's Willie C's record against Iowa? As a player? As a player. Three and one. Two and O.

Two and O. Nebraska. Plus six and a half. Nebraska money, just like last week, Nebraska money line for Willie C, for the people out there, everything else going on. Nebraska to cover. Will is 1 and 8 betting with Nebraska this year. But 2 and 0 against Iowa as a player. Yeah, that was crazy.

That was a stat that Clump just whispered in my ear. You know Clump. Clumps in deep water with this whole entire company right now. How am I 1 and 8? What's my 1? What's my 1? I think it was Michigan. Which one did I win?

No, you guys are favored by two and a half, and you guys won by three. That a boy? Well, listen, I'm going to get it. Will, Josh, what do you pay? Or Taylor, Josh. They covered against USC. Oh, no. This is it, man.

I'll climb in with you. I'll climb in with you. Nebraska. You ain't in Nebraska guy. You ain't a Nebraska guy. Give me Iowa. Give me Iowa. Lay the points.

No, I can't do it. Give me Nebraska. You're undefeated against them as a player. Give me Nebraska. 56% cover prop. Give me Nebraska. Six and a half, right? Yeah.

Give me Nebraska. Okay, I'll take Nebraska as well because, boys. Yeah, Iowa. Yeah. So I way, hey week. GBR. That's the show? Great show.

Great show. Great show. Big Oxy Kids is lead comments. We talk about a lot of games. There's only one that matters. Happy Thanksgiving. Travel safe tonight today. And let's win them all this weekend.

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