Bussin' With The Boys - Josh Pate, Will Compton HAMMER Michigan-Oklahoma OVER, Taylor Lewan: Bryce Underwood Is GENERATIONAL

Episode Date: September 3, 2025

Welcome back to The Locker Room with Josh Pate, Will Compton, & Taylor Lewan! This week, we dive into the exciting matchups of Vanderbilt VS. Virginia Tech, Kansas VS. Missouri, South Florida VS. ...Florida, Iowa VS. Iowa State, and Michigan VS. Oklahoma. New episodes every Wednesday at 6:00 PM CT.   TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 4:00 Weekend Recap 31:26 Vanderbilt VS. Virginia Tech 36:36 Kansas VS. Missouri 47:27 South Florida VS. Florida 53:21 Iowa VS. Iowa State 1:01:48 Michigan VS. Oklahoma 1:16:22 Dog Of The Week 1:18:15 Bet The Boys ParlaySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to another episode of the locker room. It is week two of college football season before I go any farther. I just want to thank everybody for subscribing to this channel. 2,000, 2,000 new subscribers, new eyes and ears listening to this show. Thank you guys for enjoying it, and thank you for hitting the subscribe button. Listen, Rocky Week 1, I take you over to the board. The NCAA is trying to run out Kalin DeBoer for the abysmal performance by Alabama. Willie C. going one and six.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Josh Pate going three and four. Taylor Luan going three and four. We tasted a little blood in our mouth and two things happen when you get a hit in the mouth. You wake up in the next morning. You keep going. You show up and you keep moving forward. Or you fold like a lawn chair. Last time I checked, there's no lawn chairs on the locker room.
Starting point is 00:00:45 We're talking all ball this week, boys. We got the JP poll that just dropped. And surprising note, before you go crazy in the comments, he's still got Texas at number one. And the generational talent of Arch Manning at number one. The AP poll dropped. And we got a big slate of games this weekend. Generational quarterback Pavia goes on the handle V-Tech,
Starting point is 00:01:04 goes on at Virginia Tech. I think that's going to be a spicy game. Jalen Daniels, generational quarterback. He goes at Mazoo Battle for the Border. You've got USF going down to face. Generational quarterback DJ Lagway. Then you got Battle for the State, Iowa at Rocco Beck. That is a generational quarterback, boys, at Iowa State.
Starting point is 00:01:23 And then the generational quarterback matchup of the weekend. You got Michigan and Bryant. Underwood, the rising star, going to Norman, Oklahoma. They're known for two things. That's sooner football and tornadoes. A couple of Josh Pate's favorite. They take on generational quarterback John Mateer. We're happy you're here.
Starting point is 00:01:42 If you enjoy this show, all we ask is that you subscribe. Let's get this party started. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin.
Starting point is 00:02:14 And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called. Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. And nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the... the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on, a Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman. Multi-million dollar house,
Starting point is 00:03:27 Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud. But how long can this alliance last? Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the Aihar Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, fellas, before this generational show gets started, guys know the drill every Saturday. Fandol's got us boosting. It's called boosting with the
Starting point is 00:03:52 boys and it's exactly what it sounds like a profit boost for college football every single Saturday. Crack open the app. Tap in your, tap in your boost and boom, you're cooking. We're talking real teams, real Saturdays and that extra payout to make your wins hit harder. You're already betting college football. This is all part of it. So if you're not boosting with the boys, what are you even doing here? Okay, head to fandul.com forward slash. Did I get set up? Head to fandul.com forward slash boston to download the app.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Lock in your boost this Saturday and let's have some fun. A couple housekeeping items. Generational show. Generational show. Housekeeping items. This show, you're watching this. If you like college football, you love NFL. We have the NFL portion of college football or NFL portion of the locker room.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Also, Thursday night, the boys are streaming. our first stream in the gambling cave watching Philly versus the Cowboys is going to be a hell of a time. Unfortunately, Josh Pate won't be there. Saturday, the game we'll talk about today. Oklahoma. Michigan at Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Big game, massive game, not only for myself, but in the entire country. Some people are saying it's bigger than Texas, Ohio State. Some people are. Some people are actually saying that. I don't know if you heard. We'll also be streaming that game
Starting point is 00:05:09 that is at 7.30 Eastern. On to the show. How do we feel, boys? I feel good. Where'd you get that card? Ocean, you didn't have this card? Is Taylor Will, Taylor Will? Opener.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Oh, then you read that one real quick. The locker room is presented by the Fandil Sportsbook, number one sportsbook in America. I'd listen, we hit it all. Responsible gaming, though. This is about responsible gaming. Check out Fandil.com slash RG or the Responsible Gaming section in the app
Starting point is 00:05:35 to learn more about staying in control of your game. It took all of me to stay in control. Yeah. The bleeding that was happening over the weekend for myself. Look, I can't do. do it for them. I thought I was seeing the field. The picks were there but I can't get inside their bodies and play
Starting point is 00:05:51 for them. You know what I mean now when I say I don't make wrong picks. My picks are right, except if kids or coaches or officials screw up, how am I supposed to be responsible for a kid screwing up or a coach or an official screwing up? We can't throw the ball for him. We're standing there at Texas. Ohio State. We can't throw the ball for him. How do you stay poised and in the pocket, Josh Pate,
Starting point is 00:06:11 when we're talking about screwing up of preseasoned Josh Pate, This is the, maybe you might have said, don't quote me on this, but maybe this was your quote. This is the nastiest Alabama team I've ever seen. This is going to be beyond far and away the national champion this year. And then they go and lay a goosey to the point to where even the computers are trying to delete the film. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Well, are you suggesting week one wasn't nasty? Week one was nasty. Very nasty. Feel like I nailed that one. I got no clue. I got nothing for you. I got no clue. We were at the Ohio State game.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I was driving home. So the game's on, but I'm listening to it. So I'm listening to Joe Tess lay out a magnificent generational call, by the way. Three buttons undone on the button down with the gold chain in the booth. Unfortunately, production got in his ear and he had to button a couple of them. But Alabama came completely unbuttoned. Yeah, I had no clue that was coming. That's just a whiff on my part.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Now, 11 games left to go. Mathematically and only mathematically, they're still alive. My prediction's still alive. But I got to go to Georgia in less than a month. So don't feel great about it right now, but crazier things have happened. Not much crazier, but crazier things have happened. If we were able to time travel and get back a couple of weeks where we're making our preseason predictions, are you still going with Alabama? There's nothing that I saw Saturday that made me say, oh, in retrospect, I should have noticed that.
Starting point is 00:07:32 So it would be the exact same prediction. I'm dead serious. Like it sucks. Like what, two scrimmages you said? Seen and practice. No, I know the program pretty intimately felt like. Like all the boxes were checked. But he sat there.
Starting point is 00:07:44 He said he was sitting with a scout going, who's that guy? Oh, yeah. He'll be a first friend. Like you got to understand. The way you talked about the secondary, I was thinking to myself, like, this is an NFL. So you got to understand. When you go to an Alabama or a Georgia or an Ohio state scrimmage or something like this, there are a bunch of scouts there.
Starting point is 00:08:00 A bunch of former coaches. They're a bunch of former players there. So oftentimes you'll find yourself standing on the sideline talking to half a dozen people who even if you know nothing about ball, you know they know something about ball. Right. It was consensus. It was everybody saying, this is a pretty good looking team right here. This has a chance to be a really good looking team.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Defense flying around, pads popping, and none of that was exhibited Saturday. So you either ask yourself, did your eyes just thoroughly lie to you? Or is that a one-off? But I don't think it's a one-off because, like, some of the stuff that they showed Saturday is, it's not just misalignment. It's not just dropping a ball. It's not just stuff that you rectify in practice the next. week. I don't think. Yeah. I don't know where I am. They got outcoached. They outcoached every single
Starting point is 00:08:47 fast. There was one drive. They had three different plays that looked the exact same with a motion, which ended up being the jet that took. They took the left side of the field all the way down for like a 40-yard rushing touchdown. They set that up multiple times, watching the safety shifts from one side rotate over the linebackers falling the pulling garden tackle. They did that three or four times, gaining two, three yards and then busted 40 on them. It was bad because Jesse Palmer, I think, was doing color on the game. And I'm not watching it live. So I'm listening to it live.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I've gone back and watched it later. I've put myself through that several times. But Jesse Palmer, there's almost this inhale and depressed exhale. And he goes, guys, it's the same play. They've already run two or three times. Guys, it's the same play. I'm just putting it on the telestrator for you. But if you've seen this before, it's because you just saw it like four minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:09:32 They just ran the same thing again. And I was listening to myself driving down I-65 yelling, what's happening? What am I missing? You can't be watching it. That's irresponsible. So, yeah, I don't know what to say. It's like, I don't know the truth to everything that comes out, but there were like some tweets surfacing about players having DoorDash late at night, like one in the morning, sneaking girls in the hotel.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Yeah, one, yeah, one, two, three. And if I, if I take that at face value and I connect it with the effort you see on the field, the only way this gets turned around is if there is actual, player leadership in the locker room. Like if there's actual guys who can stand up and say things and everybody kind of listens and they start kind of gut checking themselves. Because if not, you're just in this world to where you have a loaded roster, four and five star guys.
Starting point is 00:10:25 And if these guys are about their business, the way that face value is and the product that they put out on film, like it's just going to get really bad. And all these guys are not all of them, but a lot of guys are just going to transfer because they're going to think it's not them that's doing it. Because their ego is so big, so they're think, we're just going to go somewhere else. But that was the big concern, like after the Alabama loss and all the things, oh, Booster sent me this. This tweet came out here.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And they're trying to get to the bottom of what's the culture like with DeBoer and everything else. So that was my, that's kind of my, like, instinct on it all. Yeah, it feels like things are spiraling in Tuscaloosa. And you don't have a guy like Nick Sabin to kind of keep everything rained in all the time. Right. Right. I'm not saying DeBoer can't do that. But you know when Saban's there, if that tweet comes out about, you know, the middle of the night, early morning, like there, there's no question that shit like that. One, it's probably not true.
Starting point is 00:11:19 You're thinking, oh, this is probably not true because this is a Nick Sabin culture. But number two, he's going to have this nipped in the buck because you know you see it year in and year out for decades that he handles business like that in-house and he handles it fast. And there's player leadership around it. It's like when that stuff's coming out with Kalin DeBore, it's like, I wonder what is going to come of all. this because if they don't get it turned around he's going to be standing on the sideline having the same kind of cameos that they were showing throughout the game where he's just kind of standing there like what are we about to do i'll say one thing my one of my biggest takeaways one of the things i admired the most about saving is that place was a disaster sometimes of chaos
Starting point is 00:11:55 behind the scenes and you never knew it because they kept winning right and the point is you're talking about viewing it from the outside and it's ultra discipline and it's ultra buttoned up and it's ultra intense and there's a standard they're playing too what really happened was they understood how to keep the main thing the main thing because they had trouble a lot they had off the field stuff happen dude their coaching staff was in turmoil a lot of the time yeah and i used to you get a glimpse behind the curtain and what used to fascinate me the most is i can't believe that this this this this and this is going on with this program behind the scenes and they look like what they do on saturday right but it's because they kept the main thing the main thing and the one thing that i noticed that's probably different now than when it was under saving is if you ever put the stuff on film that's some of those guys put on film Saturday, you'd never have to worry or fear the opponent. You don't have to fear Nick Saban. You'd have to fear your guys in the locker room. Some of the best fights I've ever seen were Bama player versus Bama player on sidelines during games. They're in Georgia, like 10 years ago now. They're up 38 to 3. They give up a touchdown run to
Starting point is 00:12:58 Chubb. Chubb had this like 100 yards per game street going, and that touchdown run put them over that. And I saw Jaron Reed and Ruben Foster going at it on the sideline. I saw Jonathan Allen getting after someone as confetti was falling after they beat Clemson and the national title because they had given up a garbage time touchdown. Coaches are having to separate guys. They're up 383. They won a national title in the other case. The season's over and guys are about to kill each other if they don't get separated.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And then you take that and put it in one monitor. And you take the other day and put it in the other monitor. Look at their sideline. Look at it. Does any guy look scared of the performance that he's turning in? Right. I don't care about the boosters 1 a.m. Dude, people will be shocked at what happens behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:13:42 It's the keeping the main thing, the main thing. Main thing wasn't the main thing there Saturday. That's what I wonder. Can you just turn a knob? They're still ultra-talented. They still, I think, got a good staff. But whatever getting the main thing back on track is, that knob turn, I don't know if it's as simple as, hey, guys, we had a player's only meeting.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Now it's all going to be good. Now we're focused. Because if it really is that easy, why didn't you do it before? And if it really does rectify itself and you're a freight train out, of control. I'll never forget that that week one result was real. It's in the tank somewhere. So I can't trust you because it may rear its head down the road. You got to go on the road again. You got to go to Georgia eventually. You got to go to on the road several more times. Like you're going to get put in the blender eventually. You're going to be down 10 in the first quarter again
Starting point is 00:14:25 eventually. How do you respond? Only way to change it's to change it. One thing that didn't get changed is your JP poll, the number one. That's true. Team in the country. Texas is still there. I'm not going to say you still got Texas there because you're like you're a separation from the model. Yes. So viewers tuning in. Explain the JP, the JP poll because again, you got Texas number one generational arm and Archmanning. Allegedly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Also explain that layer of separation between your JP poll and you. Yeah. Oh, the separation is I don't want blame. Got you. So that's the separation. This is your program. This is your thing. This just generates a whole bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:03 So I partnered with the data scientist like 10 years ago. All we wanted to do was create a predictive model. Every odds maker has this. It's just that not many people have shows where they display it. So all we wanted to do is we wanted to have a predictive-based model that spits out a number on a game. Same as a point spread would be for Fanduil. We want our own internal number. We use that number against the market to bet.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Every odds maker, every handicapper largely has one of those. So I put it out. Well, the public has a portion of the public, has no clue how to interpret that. For example, Texas plays Ohio State. other day. Texas gets stoned by Ohio State. They outgain them a lot of stuff like that, but they lose. All right. So if I were an AP voter, I'd clearly have Ohio State ranked above Texas this week. But in power ratings, Texas does not fall behind Ohio State for one reason. Texas would be a slight favorite on a neutral field if they played again tomorrow. I know that. I confirmed it
Starting point is 00:15:53 with Fandul. Just like with Bama, Bama's still ahead of Florida State. Bama, according to Fandul, because I had to hit him up before the show, would be an eight and a half point favorite against FSU on neutral field if they played again this week. Now, if that number got put, out, you, you, me, we could all bet Florida State. That's well within our constitutional rights. That's not what the J.P. Poll is just about putting the information out there and then do with it what you will. And if you don't care about it or you don't like it, it's not for you. Don't consume it. But there are a bunch of people who are unhappy in life out there, as you've noticed, who really love to rage out on the J.P. Poll. And all I want to tell that group is, it's not my fault.
Starting point is 00:16:30 It's not you. Don't get mad at me. It's not my fault. Yeah, I love that. I love that. Josh does an incredible job of weirdly staying bulletproof. I would not rank Alabama. I would not rank Alabama this week. They'd be unranked for me. I'd have Florida State ranked top 10. Because if I were an AP voter, I would go solely on your body of work. So I would make my preseason rankings because I have to for the AP.
Starting point is 00:16:51 But once the season started, I'd just wipe the slate clean. So like, why would Auburn not be ranked right now? Why would Georgia Tech not be ranked right now? So for all the folks out there in AP voting land who want to hate on the JP poll, Well, why do you still have Alabama ranked, period? Why should they be ranked, period? Conversely, why should Georgia Tech not be ranked? USF beat Boise.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Boise was everyone's preseason pick to go to the playoff from the G5. Well, USF beat them handedly. So why is USF not ranked? So I don't get the AP logic. At least mine has logic behind it, even if people disagree with it, and Fandu backs me up on it. At least I've got logic behind mine. Do you think the ACC is stronger than people think,
Starting point is 00:17:29 or the SEC is weaker than people think? I think the SEC is exactly what. people thought. I think Alabama's not what people thought. I mean, Auburn looked pretty good against Baylor. South Carolina beat Virginia Tech. Like Texas went and lost to maybe the number one team in the country. So you remember the other day when we were doing our season preview and I said the SEC is kind of like the Nashville skyline? There's not a big skyscraper there. It's just a bunch of pretty tall buildings. I think the SEC performed exactly like the Nashville skyline would perform. Some teams won. In fact, more teams won than lost, but there were a couple of high profile losses.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Emma being the biggest one. There's no shame in Texas losing to Ohio State, I don't think. That's not something that vilifies or justifies the SEC's claim. Like to me, if you want to talk about depth of conference, that South Carolina Virginia Tech game is really good. That LSU Clemson game is really good. Clemson is the number one team in another conference. LSU is not preseason, but they go into their building and win. South Carolina is probably viewed top eight preseason in the SEC, top six, top five according to some. Virginia Tech's probably six seven and something in here. That's a good comparative match up. And you had SEC over that team. So anytime you get into this, it sounds like you're carrying water for the SEC. It's just telling the truth.
Starting point is 00:18:42 There's no logic-based conversation to be had about the SEC because people either love them or they hate them. And either one of those people is not probably one to trust in a fact-based, logic-based conversation. But the point is, we're one week in. So I still got no clue what the SEC is. I just think I may know a little bit more about a couple of teams. I have both of those people in my body and my mind when I think about the SEC. That's chaos. Yeah. That's chaos. It's like I appreciate. I respect. I love the ball that comes out of the SEC. And then as a big 10 guy, there's things you hate and you want to see fail about the SEC, but you just, they're just battling at all times up here. I don't know what to do. Yeah, as this tug of war, it's like, do I be unbiased,
Starting point is 00:19:21 but I am biased? Like, what's the game? I'm not okay. You're not okay, but that's okay. Actually, they got a good product on the field right now. I like this, Steve. Yeah, because it's like a couple of weeks ago, you sat there on the bus and you said the SEC has more depth. And we're all looking around me, Jack and Gary look at you like, what did he just? For the last three years. That's the cat that appreciates the SEC speaking right there. Yeah, that's like the other wolf winning for a moment.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Yeah. And then we look at it. Yeah, maybe the body of the SEC is really good, but the head's not so strong. What if you just, what if we just misidentified what the head is? What if Florida's the head? just ran it. What if Oklahoma's the head? We just don't know. We don't think that. What if there is a dominant team? It's just not Alabama or Texas.
Starting point is 00:20:01 What if it's one of them? What if it's, say it for him. What if it's? Cottober is coming. Cogtober is coming. Got Alabama and Oklahoma in October. So the Cottober surprise will happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:14 At least once if not twice. We're feeling a lot better about the Alabama game. What do you boys make of the generational quarterback comments and all the slander, everything, the world. was on fire during and after the Texas Ohio State game talking about Arch Manning. Josh and I were having a conversation right before you did that electric intro that Jerry wanted to jump in in the middle of was like Olofsky came in and said, Arch Manning played against a really good defense and that's why he was bad. Well, if that is the logic, then Arch Manning is a bad quarterback.
Starting point is 00:20:48 But I don't agree with that at all. And I think early in that game, you watch Arch Manning when he was bad. He has a lot of time. His offensive line is giving a lot of time, and he chooses not to use his legs. And I think that, like, it was so apparent to me that it seemed like that was a coach thing to do before the game.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Like, Josh was saying, like, there's a 17 game season. Don't use your legs if you don't have to. Personally, for me... First play of the game, set them up for an easy completion. For an easy completion. For an easy completion. Yeah. I think if they go back and play that game,
Starting point is 00:21:16 Arch starts with his legs a little bit sooner, tires out that defense, east to west kind of like they did versus Michigan, and it opens up for them a little bit more. But there was no sustained drives, really, except for a couple in the second half. They went for it and fourth down in their first drive. They got that. They went for it again, didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:21:30 So it's like, there's a lot of things that could have gone Texas's way. I think Archmanning had a bad day, but it doesn't mean he's like not who we think he is, which is he's still a Manning. He's still the first overall recruit in his class. I think he's going to be all right. It's just a bit of a, I think it's a shock for everybody. Because I think we all sat here last week and were like Texas is going to be the team. We all picked Texas in Ohio State stood up and showed that their defense.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And Matt Patricia had no problem transitioning from NFL to college. showed a bunch of different variety of defenses that really mess with arch head. I'm pretty sure that I heard a lot of people after the game screaming about how overhyped Arch Manning was and how they're tired of the arch hype who participated in the arch hype. Now I don't consume a whole lot of generic like national college football media because I don't want it to sway my own opinion. So I was telling you I was a little bit out to left field when so many people kept saying oh, Everyone thought he was a generational quarterback, this and that. I don't doubt people called him a generational quarterback.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I just think the crowd that's yelling he's not a generational quarterback at the crowd that labeled him a generational quarterback, that crowd's way bigger. Like the one outrage today is way bigger. I know some people hyped him up. But like we were on this show when we were doing the preview even. You asked me, what are your expectations for Arch Manning? I said, I think he's going to be really good. I don't think he's generational. I don't think he's elite.
Starting point is 00:22:53 He's not my Heisman favorite or anything like that. I thought that was fair. He still may be all those things, by the way. He may be better than I thought he was. Bulletproof. But he's not, I did not throw the G word out there. I did not go generational. So to me, when I watched what happened the other day,
Starting point is 00:23:07 I didn't get the outcome I thought I would. To be very clear, I thought Texas would win the game. I didn't think Texas was going to win the game because Art was going off for 3.30. I thought it was going to be a complete rock fight, and they'd come out on top because they weren't the team replacing both coordinators. I did think they'd have an end.
Starting point is 00:23:23 edget quarterback. So by that metric, I was very disappointed. I thought they had the motivation edge. Like those things didn't pan out. But I don't know. I just listened. I kept on seeing clips afterwards of all these national folks, a lot of whom don't, not Orlovsky, but a lot of these folks I saw yelling about college football don't normally talk about college football. So I know good and well, if they've taught college football the last six months, it's probably been archmanning. And now their big takeaway is, I'm tired of the arch hype, which they probably contributed to? They field that final. I just looked at that and said, what are we, you know what? It was good to see you guys. We'll see you come playoff time. It was good to see. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:01 The casuals. What's your thought? When I feel like the domino effect, because again, like, I'm taking whatever, like you see him as the favorite for the Heisman. So I'm like, oh, it seems like he's going to be a really good quarterback this year. I'm picking, I picked the Lenore Sellers for the Heism, but it's like the person in you seeing Archman, you see him, having the interview with Peyton Manning, knowing that they keep them away from, like, he's on a bunch of commercials, but as far as like doing, it seems like it's a kid with a good head on the shoulders. And so like, oh, wow, he's the Heisman favorite. Like, he must be the real deal, even though the body of work, like, has yet really to be seen whatsoever. And then
Starting point is 00:24:40 as you're watching the game and you're like, oh, man, yeah, he's missing some throws here. He's inaccurate, all these things. It's a massive stage for week one going into Columbus. All the hype behind them or premature hype, whatever this hype is that we're speaking about. Then as the game's going on and you start seeing the memes and just internet culture, seeing an opportunity. Again, it's not even really about the player. It's about everything else that goes on, the white black stuff. You see Shadur Sanders being brought up in these conversations when people are trying to argue.
Starting point is 00:25:13 So you know right there when you're seeing that stuff, I'm kind of chuckling and it's like, here we go. Yeah. You know what this is becoming to be about. But I see Orloskey tweet, imagine having a generational quarterback and keeping the training wheels on him for the entire game. That tweet starts going crazy. And I feel like that's a domino effect that got some of the other figureheads talking about it because then you have something you have, I think it was Jamil Hill. Jamil Hill.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Jamil Hill. Jamel Hill. There you go. Jamel Hill. She's like, oh, what are the characteristics of a generational quarterback? Getting that, everybody watching knows what I'm talking about. Getting that festering going. Which is so funny because people love to throw generational quarterback around,
Starting point is 00:25:58 but the minute it's like, someone's like, well, use it as a generational quarterback that didn't play well, it's like, well, what is a generational quarterback? Why are you calling him a generational quarterback? Everybody's generational until like now, all of a sudden we want to nitpick at what's generational? Archmany, you know why they're calling a generational talent because he's got the complexion for the protection.
Starting point is 00:26:16 We're having to North Sellers over here. I don't know what you're talking about. We're the North Sellers show. There's people out there. There's people out there. And like, guys are making a comeback. They're making a comeback. No, but that was kind of my whole breakdown.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Like, I think, again, it's a coachism for forever. You're never as bad as they say you are. You're never as good as they say you are. This is one where they're all going to watch the tape. I loved watching as presser where you, every time you see a quarterback taking the podium, You're ready to see if he's going to take accountability or how is he going to answer questions? And him saying like it starts with me, you know, I enjoy seeing that out of a player because that is how it starts. If you are an individual player like grading yourself, not trying to blame anything.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Oh, it was, you know, it was loud. It was this. We had a tough game. We didn't convert here. You saying it starts with me. I need to play better. Watching a player say that, I respect it. I think he's going to be just fine.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I think Ohio State. People didn't talk about that defense. enough. It's mostly about beating down Arch Manning. I think Ohio State, their defense is the real deal. Their second level flies in the football. They got arguably the best player in college football with Caleb Downs. Matt Patricia, we set it on bustle with the boys, forgot that this dude's used to game planning for the likes of Peyton Manning, Ben Rothersberger, Joe Burrow, preparing for Super Bowls. And that defense has a really good job of taking away things. we're not going to let them beat us
Starting point is 00:27:43 beat us with this guy or with this scheme. Patricia did a great job. Ohio State's defense did a hell of a job. I feel like it was just, that was a battle. And it was a week one battle, some sloppy play, misconversions on fourth down. Like, it was a week one football. It was a week one football game against two juggernauts
Starting point is 00:27:59 that are figuring out who they're going to be. I thought I keep saying Justin Sayans, but it's not just. Julian San's. Because every time I watch it, all his name's Justin Sayans. I'm just waiting for the just saying after that to go global.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I'm kind of getting off track here. But I thought he did a, I thought Julian saying did a really good job as well for his first start. It was a fun game to watch, low scoring. And I sit there, I'm like, I should have known this was going to be an under game. Should have known.
Starting point is 00:28:25 I feel like from now on, like the plan is week one, we go under. That's what I'm doing. Week one, big games go under. That's it. No more show needs to happen. I do love that you brought up Ohio State because there's been so much conversation
Starting point is 00:28:36 around Texas and their downfalls as a team. but like Texas, the defense is incredible, but that offensive line. Like that clip that you posted on Twitter of that double team. Moving him into the second level. Buddy had his foot planted. Churches.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Yeah, it's amazing. Couldn't have had better technique. Cairns inside and everything. And they just put the kid on skates and moves him back. Like truly football porn. Like you get that, you go six to midnight in an absolute hurry watching blocking like that,
Starting point is 00:29:01 which is, you know, obviously I'm wearing the colors I'm wearing. But in Ohio States, they're kind of, they've been shot up for being not the toughest team in the world. But to see them rogue gritting like that, it's like, that's fucking big tempo. When I had that clip pulled up, Savannah walks behind me, she sees it. She said, because she picked Texas to win the game. She goes, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:29:19 How do you prevent that? How do you stop that from happen? I said, that's physics you're watching. That's exactly it. You're watching physics right there. Right. And it's like, if you're able to do that consistently, you're not going to lose a lot of games. I felt stupid to go back to the Matt Patricia stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:34 When you look back on a pick, you got a pick wrong. one of the things I just whiffed on within that game is I didn't respect Matt Patricia enough. I didn't respect immediately the impact he was going to have there. Detroit Lions. He goes because he was a head coach of the Detroit Lions and he didn't have a good time there like he didn't do well.
Starting point is 00:29:51 And I think that's what everyone was like, ah, we're done with him. Yep. And it's like... Then they got him calling offense with the Patriots when he goes back to the Patriots. But yeah. Same thing. It's like, I'm such an idiot. Yeah, it's like the most overlooked thing that should have been the most obvious to all of us. Because they lost a high-level.
Starting point is 00:30:06 coordinator in Knowles. And that was a big story. Not so much who they back filled them with, which I'm supposed to pick up on that stuff. So I blame myself more than sorry. This is the blame. The AP Polkin or the J.P. Pole definitely not. Forget about the model. Forget about the model. And yeah, so I'm sorry, Matt. Can we take some picks? I feel, do we feel, is there anything else we need to cover as far as this person mission look day? I also want to apologize. Nebraska did not cover. I got everybody. I got a lot of DMs telling me they, they rode with covering. on me, you do have to know. If you're new to the show,
Starting point is 00:30:40 you have to know that your boy gets really spiced up for some Nebraska football. Yeah. I'd like you take them, money lines and some parlays, but I want to apologize. And my iPad game of the week, Notre Dame, Miami.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Whipped on that one, too. I can't play for the O line out there. That's right. O line, which is kind of heartbreaking. You thought they're going to lean on the old. You're like, how are they going to protect CJ Car, get him going a little bit? they're going to lean on the O line. Whereas I'm watching the game, it's like,
Starting point is 00:31:09 oh, CJ Carter's got some stuff to him. The O line, I feel like he's letting him down. Especially to do that last drive. I mean, there was like reports, the Soutland reporter is talking about how they're throwing up in the corner. Yeah. Their light gold pants were very dark gold towards the end. You see them huffing and puffing and Miami fans having fun. I don't know if those Miami defense vends are just generational talents. Ruben Bain. Generational. They seem generational based on those last two plays of the game. Because my God. Those white receivers. They had the white teckler like a whirling dervish.
Starting point is 00:31:35 dude, he was out there spinning around. He had no idea what he was doing. That's not a bad player. That's not a bad player either. Ruben Bain was like a rubber band that had been pulled the whole game. And then that last drive, they said, let it go. You just let it go. Who does?
Starting point is 00:31:50 What tackle in the country does anything about that? Who's dealing with that? Yeah, I don't know. Y'all can pick the best one. I'm just saying, I think he's going to struggle going one-on-one against four in a fourth quarter in a pressure situation. That dude hasn't been healthy his whole career, and he is right now. So you also mentioned when you think about O'Lion, you think of that Golden Dome,
Starting point is 00:32:09 may think about that this year. Yeah. Because that's not a bad offensive line. And Beck, like, hey, the disrespect, the emotion in his voice after the game. Cry. You could tell, like, those last eight months, it was not just the injury that affected him. It was all the noise. We said it, like, you're leaving a place for a girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:32:23 This was crazy. He's done two years ago. We've got a Lambo. We thought you're generational two years ago. You're not generational anymore. Hey, so. Now he's generational. Now he's generational.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Well, I mean, come on now. He's one and up. It's got to be. I think at this point it's safe to say there are more generational cornerbacks than there or not. We've never seen. In the modern era, I don't think we've ever had this many generational QB's. Do you think it's now if you're a bad quarterback, you're generational?
Starting point is 00:32:45 I think you've got a path to be a generation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think if you're good, it's like that's the new norm. If you're mid, if you're knocking on the door, yeah. Being bad, that's when you're generational. I do think we can all agree on this is going to, this is a generational college football season
Starting point is 00:32:58 because it's wide open. Yeah. I think it's going to remain that way too. First game. Yeah, generational quarterback, Pavia. Diego Pavia goes out to Virginia Tech. Vandy, we get all of our odds. We get all of our data.
Starting point is 00:33:12 We get all of our stuff from the Fanduil Sportsbook. Vandy is the underdog in this game. Virginia Tech favored by minus one and a half. The over under on this game, 47 and a half. Boys, what do we like here? I think Virginia Tech is in what I like to call Wounded Animal Mode, Pure Desperation Mode, after that week one game.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I think they probably played a little scrappier to use a memoism than people expected them to against South Carolina. Like people look back at that South Carolina game week one. South Carolina ended up covering, needed the special team score to do it. They had to be a ball all their way to the win. And I think most people look at it and say, oh, boy, man, I think South Carolina just struggled a little more than I thought they would. Maybe Virginia Tech has something to do with that. So now they come back home. That entire coaching staff knows they're coaching for their jobs.
Starting point is 00:34:00 And they know what happened last year with this game. And so they... This is like a revenge game. I was seeing a couple quotes from the players. Like, this one circled for them. Got to... Well, Vandy's got a few of those this year that they're going to participate in. Yeah, very unfamiliar territory.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Because we're a boy, Pavia out there talking that shit. But he looked good in that week one. He did. He did. I actually think... Yeah, but who would they play? Like, he was routes on air out there. He still...
Starting point is 00:34:25 Still... Still... He was in the right place. He got himself. He was being shifting. He did Diego Pavia. The best way Diego Pavia does Diego Pavia. Speaking of the generational talent, I'm telling me.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Yes. But it was still, like, there's a lot of schools we're going to talk about today that played the school of the deaf and the blind. And Vanderbilt is not exempt from that. I need a generational performance from Kyron Jones. And I'm not going to get it. But I don't actually need that. I need enough from him.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I think Virginia Tech's going to ugly out of win here. I actually think they're going to win. They are, I'm going to lay the one and a half. I'm going to take Virginia Tech to win in cover. Revenge spot. A couple of them this year for Vanty. The first one, they fall in. I like a cut.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I like a couple things. We'll get to it. Because it's one or the other, I feel like. You can't lose both. That's correct. Can't lose both. Well, the generational quarterback wouldn't. Would never.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Never. I like two things in this game. I like the over, more than I do picking the game, over 47 and a half. And to me, the X factor is a gentleman we know very well. And it's Cade McConnell. Cade McConnell is the X factor in this game. Wow. And I'll be damned if they're getting their first test of
Starting point is 00:35:34 the season and I'm not back in the boy. Probably you two friend of the show, but Caine McConnell, he was an intern here. Boy of the show. Boy of the show. Right. And they're revved up. Generational offensive line talent right there. Cain McConnell.
Starting point is 00:35:48 He's the X factor in this game and I'm taking, I'm taking Vandy. Like the over, more than I do picking the game. But if I'm picking the game, I'm going Vandy money line. I love how you touch on the over. I like the over as well and I will also be going vandy. Something about Diego Pavia. Something about Cade McConnell. Something about Cade McConnell.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Like, Kay, so was it Tuesday? It might have been Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, it was yesterday. Today's Wednesday. Kate texted me, he's like, what is your weekly routine when you're in the football season? We get on the phone, we talk about the entire routine. He's like, I am not missing a step this year. And I was like, hey, whatever you do, make sure you do it consistently.
Starting point is 00:36:21 They don't put too much on your plate. This is a team that's re-energized. This is a team that packed out a stadium with their own fans in week one. Like people actually screamed. Yes. Where the other team actually had to go into a silent cadence. They got something going on here in Nashville, Tennessee, and I'm not going to be the guy to jump up the bandwagon
Starting point is 00:36:38 when I jumped on the bandwagon when they played Virginia Tech last year in week one. And they ended up going to overtime. Big dub and the bet for that one. I'll be going, Vandy. I love Diego. I love Cade Moore. I'm taking them. And for everybody hearing the applause that happened when I said Cade McConnell,
Starting point is 00:36:54 that's how good of an intern and how close he got with the boys during his two months. That's how you know. This is a Cade McConnell game. You talk to him. They're winning the Natty. Yeah. Well, we pumped the brakes with them on that type of stuff. We were literally, I looked at him and I go, hey, listen, you're in it?
Starting point is 00:37:08 I'm going to tell you right now that you're not going to win the Natty. With disrespect, but you just got to be able to zoom out a little bit. But with the strong performance of week one, whether it was against an elementary school team, it doesn't matter. The fact that they put the pedal to the medal, I'm going to ride with them in their first big test at Virginia Tech. Another reason why I like Vanderbilt in this, Vanderbilt has had one extra day of rest compared to Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech wasn't a nail biter. They got beat up a little bit by South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:37:33 in the offense line, defense line. They have less time. I just think, and also, Vandy played one and a half quarters. Like, those boys are fresh, and they already seem like they're in midsies and form. Midsies in form. Midsies in form.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Virginia Tech starts off O and two. Generational Vanderbilt football team. You think he's getting the hook? They do. The fan base does. Yeah. We went up this episode to bring you Mikulb Ultra, brought to you by Mikulib Ulcer,
Starting point is 00:38:02 of a superior light beer, the delicious taste of victory deserves something equally superior. Cheer on your team with Mikhailo Volta at 2.6 carbs and 95 calories. It's a superior smooth taste worth playing for. Mikhailobotra, superior light beer. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas, we invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range podcast throughout there. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 00:38:36 So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
Starting point is 00:39:07 But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athlete for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets,
Starting point is 00:40:06 meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levant this plant to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history.
Starting point is 00:40:29 You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody? coming after me. Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:40:42 or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, next game. Kansas, what? No, go ahead, yeah. Kansas at Missouri. Kansas is underdogs by six and a half points. What else? What's the game?
Starting point is 00:40:56 Over 50 and a half points. I need you to juice that game better. That crazy. Someone opened the door after we put the little thing, the sign? You put up a sign that said, do not come in, filming in progress.
Starting point is 00:41:10 You want me to do something better? That's my fault. I got distracted because a light shine in my face just now. I had a light shine on my face. The battle of the border, the first time these two teams have met. Kansas is at Missouri. Missouri.
Starting point is 00:41:23 First two teams they've met since. 2011. Since 2011. Kansas at Missouri. Missouri is 9 and 1 at home in their last 10 games. Missouri is favored by six and a half points. The total in that game is 50 and a half.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Will Compton, we'll start with you. And also, thank you for letting me do this. Yeah, great work. Because the way you did that, I'm like, this is a Midwestern battle right here. These teams haven't got to play. You said it since 2011. Buddy, the rivalry dates back to slavery.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I was going to ask, I read that. I literally read that this is a pretty big state. It's the oldest college football rival. I'm thinking of myself. So you're telling me the north and the south had a disagreement. This is our north south. Hey, listen, we got to figure out this football game real quick. He's the crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And then both have decent teams, the fan bases, they're ready to go. Yeah, so I did. You're like, you know, Kansas are six and a half point underdogs are like, hey. No, you are right. You are right. UPS pissed me off a little bit. I got distracted, my ADD kicked off in a bad way. Go ahead, comp.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I love the over in this game. Yeah. Love the over at 15.5. I also like, I love Jail and Daniel. I think he's a hellful guy. He's a generational quarterback, Jail and Daniel. And I just at the end of the day, I think Mizzou is deeper. I think they're faster.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I love what DrenCats going on there. He has a good culture there. This is a team that's been a double-digit win team the last two years. And if you look on the Kansas side, another reason I like the over there's going to be points in this game. Jalen Daniel, unless he gets injured, you're not going to be able. You can only hope to contain them. But Kansas has some second-level injuries going on at the linebacker spot. I see that, Mizzu exposing them a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:43:01 But again, I just think that the roster overall is deeper, faster than what Kansas has played thus far. It's going to be Kansas' first big real test. Same with Missouri as well. But I like Missou in this game, minus six and a half, but I love, I like Missoum minus six and a half, but I love the over. Can I ask you a question? A lot of over-talk in the first two picks of this game. Yeah, where's it coming from? Are you essentially being like, hey, make sure you put that in my record this week?
Starting point is 00:43:26 Or we're just doing pick-ups for the season? Or would you like the over to be a part of your record? Oh, I didn't even think about that. I was just, when I'm looking at the games, I'm like, gosh, how do I figure out, how do I find the way and find picks that I love during these? Because the six and a half points here at Missouri, it's a little scary. Like Kansas could pull this one off. They could definitely cover because, again, you've got six and a half there.
Starting point is 00:43:52 So then I see the 50 and a half. I'm like, these offenses are going to score now. You get a week under your belt. Kansas is a couple weeks under their belt. We're going to have some points. So that's why I love the over. But you're asking me, record-wise, yeah, no, it doesn't matter me.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I got a total I'm going to fire on later, and I 100% won it on my record. Okay. So I think we should count. I think you should just have to make a pick on the game. Okay, make a pick in the game, but if you feel as strongly as you do, we could be like, hey.
Starting point is 00:44:17 So, like, I want my official pick to be the total on this game. So you listen to me, my total should be the pick on this game. If that's what you're most confident in? That's what I'm most confident in. Over 50 and a half. I just want to know, on a side note, after everything went under last week. Where's the confidence coming from?
Starting point is 00:44:32 It's week one football. The assholes, everybody in the film room, there's an urgency that always comes out of week one to where, hey, I told you, we're not shit. We got to get the offense going here. You put us in the bad spot on special teams, defense. This is why we need you to do X, Y, and Z. Johnson, number zero, the lineback from South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:44:49 This is why you fall down in the end zone when you pick the ball off. You're not Ed Reed. You're not taking it 100 back to the house. You pinned us on the one or two yard. we got a safety that kept Virginia tech in the game. It's stuff like that, the urgency of coaching that happens, going from week one to week two,
Starting point is 00:45:04 to where everybody's dialed in, focused, and they're more locked in on what the game plan is going to be and how to execute it. I feel like players get more hyper-aware of situational football than just going out there and trying to execute on week one. Because everybody, you're fired up, your jitters, your butterflies, the little fear in your mind. I got to get the first head out of the way.
Starting point is 00:45:27 am I who I think I am, all of that stuff going through your mind. Now you hone it in a little bit more, you're a little bit more aware of the game schematically. That's why I like points in week. Also, coaches, they all live in the kind of the same world of only the paranoid survive. So when you're 10, 15 days away from your first game, you start implementing, hey, we're going to start doing,
Starting point is 00:45:45 these are a couple of runs we like against this team. This is what we kind of like if we're looking to this big game we have in week two. So in a lot of ways you're over practicing. You're over watching film. You're over being nitpicking on details of how running, Run games should go, motion shifts, all these different things to where you get to the game in a lot of times, which you said butt holes get a little tight.
Starting point is 00:46:04 So now you're having that conversation to be like, yeah, we ain't shit. Boys, we got to let it loose. Now you have a short window to go prepare for these bigger games. That's when you see the athletes start to become athletes and not think so much in the back. And coaching-wise, too, to your point, you're throwing a lot of different maybe concepts
Starting point is 00:46:17 at the wall for week one. And then you're figuring out what you're good at. You're figuring out what your capacity is for your players and what they do. So I feel like that stuff starts to get tightened up That leads me into why I like Missouri, because you have Bo, Bo Prabula. Probula. And Sam Horn, they're kind of going back and forth. And the whole, like, you know, the old college football verbiage is if you have two quarterbacks, you have zero quarterbacks. If it's very unfortunate what happened to Sam Horn, you'm having the lower leg injury. You don't like that at all.
Starting point is 00:46:46 From a, if I'm, like, taking all emotion out of it, I'm looking at Bo Probula, seeing kind of what he did at Penn State before he transferred. They used him in the same way that they used Will Levis, like kind of like that running quarterback can move around. He was saying. situational, but they're in this battle back and forth. So you're essentially implementing multiple game plans for Sam Horn who has this certain set of skill sets and then Bo Pabula, who has a different set of skill sets. Now you're going into this Kansas game, be like, hey, we know this is our quarterback. We know this is his strengths. We know this is weaknesses. Not to mention you have a defense coming back that has nine guys coming back. And you also brought Damon Wilson over from, I believe it was Georgia, right? He had two sacks in their opener. Missouri's always been like a sneaky, like good team. Like I said it in the,
Starting point is 00:47:26 at the opening, like, they're nine and one in their last 10 at home. Like, their record at home is much better than their record is away. I like Missouri a lot in this game. I love the over as well because I think that Jalen Brown kid is going to be, is going to be a stud. The big knock on him was like, you know, accuracy issues, but also injury issues. Well, he's healthy, and he's got a couple transfers from Alabama and other places that he's going to put points on the board. But I like Missouri to pull this one out and cover. Jalen Brown's generational quarterback?
Starting point is 00:47:55 I think it's without question. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to get his last name right, but I'm going to say he's probably generational. He is probably generational, but whatever. I say his name wrong? Yeah, it's Jalen Daniels. You got to, what I say?
Starting point is 00:48:06 Brown. First name's fine, it's right? I'm an idiot. Yeah, but you guys get what I'm saying. You got it. He's a quarterback. He could sling it. Generational.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Yeah. I'm, um. I think you were trying to get me a dick Joe Conno. Wait, wait, wait, what's happening here? He's coming out for blood. Brown, Brown, Brown. Brown. That didn't play.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I'm sitting there, like, got to look over a club like, is he done. John, John, no. Jaylon, he's nuts. Is he Charmed? Yeah, Jaylon Brown. I will try to get you in a dig Joe before the show's over, by the way. I thought I was.
Starting point is 00:48:33 You're not exempt anymore. I know. Okay. Yeah. I fumbled the, I fumbled the, I don't even know what I was going to say. I loved Kansas in this game. They were my dark horse in the Big 12. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:43 This is why I dive on these games a little bit because the more I dove, the more I realized, I think Missouri is going to tilt this game. Hate the linebacker situation with Kansas, banged up. Don't love the green nature of their offensive line going into the, this environment, really fast defense, Missouri has too. Athletic, long, fast. I think quarterback runs going to be huge for both sides, actually. I think Prubula, I think he had 65 on the ground last week, but it was in central Arkansas.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I think he will probably end up grabbing people's attention who tune in to watch Jalen Daniels run the ball, and they'll say, wow, that Perbula kid can run the ball a little bit too. I actually think Missouri is going to win and cover. I do like the over, but my pick's going to be Missouri minus the points. Love that. So we're all in Missouri. We're all on M-I-Z-Z-O-U.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I might have to change. Yeah. Don't love it. Don't love it. I'd have to change, dude. How you separate it from the back? No. Not this game.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Not this game. Mine's the over. His is Missouri. I like Missouri, but I love. Love the over. Here's where I don't. Here's where I want to take a step back on the over talk and the pick-em talk. The records are going to get all fucked up.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Like, what if we have like a pick-um record? and an over under record. I think the way you guys do it is if you love, like Will's saying, I love the over, that's his pick. But I like Mazoo. Because you're still picking these games. They're all sitting around minus 110, minus 120 odds, and we're picking these games.
Starting point is 00:50:10 So like Willey B loves the over, that's his pick for the Mizzou game. Like Willie B personally, I'm still going to bet Missouri minus six and a half. But I don't, that's what my dad called me growing up. Willie B. Okay, you can't just start throwing Willie B. Will Brown.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I've voted for seven years. Cous and my cousin of Jayle Brown. I'm like, my man forgot his last name. He's a blood now. He's apparently a gorilla at a zoo that was named Willie B and my dad just... Yeah, the Atlanta Zoo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I knew him. Well, I met him. Well, I went to see him one day. I went to the zoo to see him. I met him. He's in Atlanta. You had a meet and greet with Billy B? Yeah, and then they had a baby and they handed out a bumper stickers that said,
Starting point is 00:50:47 Willie B or a boy or a girl. I had that on my bike. I know about Willie B. I know about Willie B. It has nothing to do with the show. But I know that way. Two things. One, good for that monkey
Starting point is 00:50:58 and two, good for Will's brain because I was worried about you for a second, dude. We interrupt this episode to bring you form energy. Form Energy delivers best in class taste with natural flavors and zero sugar. Form energy has natural caffeine derived from green tea. Form comes in a variety of flavors. Your boy is holding the orange fury right here.
Starting point is 00:51:16 You got Screaming Freedom. You got Blue Blitz, Grape Smash, and it's perfect for those who put in the work. If you're like my boy, Clay here, where you're somebody who wakes up in the morning, gets a workout in, puts in a full day of work, and still gives it they're all when they come home. That's form energy. You're a form energy guy.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Form energy, we do the work. Back to this episode. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, dude? Huge news. We created our own podcast called,
Starting point is 00:51:44 Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one, we're starting a trend. But this one.
Starting point is 00:51:54 one's extra special. So how did we how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it and well we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say hey Jonas and then I
Starting point is 00:52:21 wrote down on my little notepad Hey Jonas and I offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levant this plant to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:54:04 This one I have chalked up. South Florida at Florida. Again, generational quarterback and DJ Lagway. Florida is favored by 17.5. The over-under on this game is 55 and a half. My only note on this game is Josh Pate game. Nobody saw the board more. Clearly. Nobody saw USF more clearly than Josh Pate did last week.
Starting point is 00:54:28 So my only note, Josh Pate game, let you boys take the floor, and I'm just going to ride wherever he's going. You're not seeing shit. I'm honestly, I'm going to sit back and I didn't do shit at work for this. I didn't prepare at all. You guys handle it? I like DJ Lagway and the Florida Gators. 17 and a half seems to be like a lot of points.
Starting point is 00:54:48 UCF whooped that ass on Boise State last week. Did you watch the game? Which one? UCF versus Boise State. I watched clips of the first half. Yeah. Okay, the game, the score does not reflect the game. It was 10 to 7 before that fake punt happened.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And buddy, let me tell you, Boise State's defensive line was swallowing USF's office. I'm talking Bonnie Blue, swallowing them up. So we like Florida. We love Florida. I'm talking about like he had no chance to breathe. Now this cat, Brian Brown, am I saying that? Barian. What?
Starting point is 00:55:21 Barian. Good try. Yeah. No, that's actually No, nice fucking try, Barry this dick, where, dude? You're trying to get me. Kid show, buddy. You're right. I'm on edge.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I started talking about Bonnie Blue and the whole thing. Like, listen, USF's offensive line was getting absolutely destroyed that entire game. The quarterback for USF, I will not say his name because I'm worried about getting got right now. That kid is a, like, he not only runs hard, he's like a heat-seeking missile
Starting point is 00:55:53 when it comes to contact. He was looking for Boise State secondary guys, wanted to put them in the ground before he rushed for a billion more yards. I love his heart. I love what he is for college football. But DJ Lagway and the Florida Gators, they're going to stomp that ass in the swamp. That's what's happening. 17 and a half.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Can you sell me better than that? His name's Byron Brown. Okay, that's what I said. No, I just wanted to go, I wanted to swerve it just a little bit. Because I thought if we just swerve the pronunciation a little bit, that was my end. Yeah, USF's going to cover here somehow. Jim, by the way.
Starting point is 00:56:23 USF is going to cover here somehow. Yeah. Actually, so what you're saying is true. Like that game's not reflective last week of how it went with Boise. But I also, how do I know that I just saw USF's peak performance in week one too? Maybe they've got room for improvement. Florida's got some big ones on deck. They got a trip to LSU and a trip to Miami coming up.
Starting point is 00:56:42 And everyone knows it and everyone's gearing up for it. This is a game you get out of healthy. And I'm not saying that's what their mentality is. I'm saying that's kind of how the game ends up playing out to me. it's about a half a point too many. 37 to 20, something like that. Yeah, I'm good. Comfortable Florida win.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I think USF comes in under the number, though. I'm taking them to cover. Couldn't disagree more. Jake Slaughter, that offensive line, Jake Slaughter is a center for the Florida Gators. There's rumors sworn around the Florida Gators. Joe Moore Award rumors. DJ Lagway is going to sit back there.
Starting point is 00:57:15 USF's defensive line, I don't know if it was the camera angle, if they had them boys on 0.5 or what, but they looked like a bunch of string beans out there. They looked like they were not there to play D1 football. They seem like linebackers and safeties. They're smaller. They're going to get owned in the trenches.
Starting point is 00:57:29 DJ's going to sit back there, take a nap, have a cup of tea, wake up and throw for 250 yards. No problem. Three touchdowns. JP poll top 10 team, Florida. J.P. Poll. Yeah. Gotta have it. And I don't disagree.
Starting point is 00:57:44 JP poll number one team of the country, Texas. That's true. I don't disagree. It should be good this week, too. It should be okay. If he says voting, BAML would be off my top 25. Also, Florida, it's not on me. One of your points being Florida has like a bunch of big games in their schedule.
Starting point is 00:57:58 It was the biggest thing revolving around Florida was, yeah, they're a good football team this year. However, their schedule is so strong. We can't see them kind of making out of it alive. That schedule, when you talked about the strength of it, didn't include USF. True. After what USF did to Boise State, antennas are going up down in, was it Gainesville? Yep. Where they play?
Starting point is 00:58:15 Down in Gainesville, Florida, where they're like, hey, listen, I know we got this big schedule coming up with LSU, all these guys. But this team just beat the brakes off. Boise State. I could see it. I could pick that up. I'll go I'll go USF. Wow. Wow. I mean to be honestly if I was sitting in your seat I would go with the with the commissioner himself also. You need to know I don't feel all that confident I like I know I I sense that I love his confidence. I listen it can go either way here you could just take a total USF could cover just Florida can just take a total the pacification of America will just his kids just taking the totals in every I like them both. They're both great. Please let us come during our spring tour.
Starting point is 00:58:53 When we come see you guys. I'll take the under. The one point I liked was again at LSU next week. And at Miami. Back to back roads. This could be, you know, usually trap games come later in the year. But this could be like an overlooking coach is going to try to keep the assholes tight. But at the end of the day when you're you got a roster like they like yeah. Here's how I think of it. I'm going to go UCF to cover. I think about Florida. I think about Florida. Everything you says is right. Florida is up like 31 to three. games in hand midway through third quarter. It's just the kind of backdoor thing. USF's not going to stop playing because they need to earn style points because they could be the G5 team whose resume is being looked at. And so getting in just under that 17 number,
Starting point is 00:59:34 it's not the kind of thing where I'm thinking, oh, it's shot for shot and then Florida pulls away late. It's the kind of thing where Florida pulls away early and then Lagway's not in the game anymore and they're trying to rest up. That's a good point. The backdoor cover is. It's highly likely. game like this because of what you have on deck.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Yeah. You want to eat your starters out as fast as possible if it goes the way you're saying is going to go. Still, give me the Gators. Gators. Gators. Battle for the state. Iowa at Iowa State.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Iowa State favored by two and a half in this game. The over under on this game is 41.5 points. That seems like a carrot. Do you take the over? Never take the over in this game. You never take the over. No, not what I would. You never take the over.
Starting point is 01:00:18 debt taxes and Phil Parker's defense. That's fucking always a guarantee that Iowa's defense is going to be good. I looked at this game after watching Rocco Beck against Kansas State, and I was like, oh, I really like Rocco Beck, and then you see Kansas State and you're like, and maybe like, I don't know a whole lot about Iowa State, but I know a lot about Iowa. I know they got a bunch of corn fed boys out there.
Starting point is 01:00:37 They're going to play sound defense. They're going to be hogs in the middle. They got two guys returning Logan Jones and Jenny Dunker, who are all big 10 guys. Initially, I look at it, I'm like, dude, this is, this has got Iowa all the way. I get on the old computer there, dial up internet, but they're talking about this Mark Grunowski kid that they're really excited about.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Generational talent just transferred. Generational talent just transferred one to national championships. And I'm like, oh my God, is Iowa going to have a passing game? That's unbelievable. Then they play Albany or whoever they play. Read it. Read it. Eight for 15, 44 yards in a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Which tells me this. You could take John Mateer, put him in an Iowa uniform. He's going to have 44 yards pass. That is how Iowa works. Someone said, I hoped that Mark Grinowski would happen to Iowa. Instead, Iowa has happened to Mark Grinowski. No doubt. And you see him, he does his post game prep conference.
Starting point is 01:01:27 And it's like, yeah, I got to be better or happy. We got the win. It's like Iowa, Iowa, Iowa. They ran for 3.10. Yeah. Kirk Farnes never going to allow you to be like one of those quarterbacks. It is funny, bro, because the internet almost broke when he threw this five yard out of practice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:42 And they're like, oh, Iowa's got a quarterback this year. We're going. Like two years. He's not in the Big Ten Championship with a 310 pound quarterback being like, he's big as shit, but he can't throw it. You ever, and Happy Go Moore, when they're trying to get him under control, and he winds up, he's about to throw the putter, and then he looks over, and the Virginia lady goes, yeah, yeah. And then he rains it in. That's what throwing a pass is like in Iowa's offense. No doubt.
Starting point is 01:02:04 He's about to get a 20-plus yarder. Because he's rocking the 11. He kind of gives you Carson Winsfibes. Yeah. He's like 20 pounds heavier. He puts his head down. Like, he's a hard-nose cat. He's never going to come out of the game, even if his legs both stick it out of his leg.
Starting point is 01:02:15 No, no. don't make this play, take a sack, run upon it. We're going to win on defense. We've got to have it. 53 rushes, 310 yards, and three touchdowns. Bro, yes.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Yeah. I mean, they're a little tricky, dude. I mean, yeah, it's going to be, I got Iowa State. I think Rocco Beck, dude, he's played, you know, two games, one overseas against Kansas State. I think it's like his poise in the pocket,
Starting point is 01:02:39 his on-timing throws, where he's putting the ball. Like, they're running the ball well with Abu Samma. Like, They put him in a wildcat every once in a while when they get in that red zone. And it's like, they have a team that's like, oh, this might be your Bay 12 champion. They got a tight end.
Starting point is 01:02:53 And I hate telling you this stat. I hate this. It's not even a really stat. Benjamin Bayer. He's a six seven. He was a freshman, All-American. He was committed to Nebraska. He had injury last year.
Starting point is 01:03:04 This is his third year. When they asked him why he flipped his commit, his answer was, it's because I don't believe in the coaching set that's coming in in Nebraska. That was an, and right now, right now, as he was. And right now, as far as I know, he's been proven wrong. That's not a real stat. I made that whole entire thing that. He was committed to. He said number 44.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Hey, hey, I already said it's not real. Oh, yeah. I was about to slander this kid. Just saying, that's not real stat. That's the kind of thing. Hey, he was committed Nebraska. He did flip to Iowa. But also, Iowa State's got a kick group who just bombed the 6 to 3 yard.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Dude, give me Iowa State covering, covering this thing. That's so funny. The stuff that was going through my head. You go, we're the parents. We're the parents. I didn't know. It was already proven wrong. If I can get Wilcompton to kind of lose his cool
Starting point is 01:03:53 every single show, we're going to have a good, we're going to have a good 20 weeks. Because I was already face-to-face with this defender from Cincinnati. If you go check out the vlog, we just dropped. I'm like, pre-game paste-to-face with his DB talking about, hey, it's going to be a long day. And he's like talking shit to me.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Oh, yeah. Dinky. We were talking shit to the Cincinnati players, and then one of us at one point, step back and be like, we're in our mid-30s talking about. Hey, girl. It's just like,
Starting point is 01:04:17 And he kind of go back like, hey, I'm really sorry about that son. I was kind of fucking around. We're driving a good time. Love your word. Love your word. One guy said it's going to be a long day. He looked at me. He's beat my ass.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I thought to myself, he probably could. He did his tall as shit. What was it, 23 or something like that? Yeah, it's a big boy. Big boy. Big boy. Big boy. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:04:34 I like Iowa in this game. Do you really? I just like a gritty. I like a gritty win. Mud truck on fresh clay type of run game. Punt the ball well. Defense wins you a game. In their last 10, Iowa 7 and 3.
Starting point is 01:04:49 In their last 5 at home, Iowa State is 0 and 5 against Iowa. That's true. This is a factual stat now. I like Iowa. Again, for me, Iowa State, they win this game. They're onto something. With this staff. If they start a 3-0, they got a shot and stick with me here.
Starting point is 01:05:13 but I fucking hate that so much. Every Comptonism is stick with me here or listen. After this is a factual stat. It's not one of those other ones. It's a factual stat. You've got to find it to move. When I said, they're on to something. All I thought it was Bill Compton.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Just tell me something random. They're on to something. I'm thinking, what is that even? That's Willie Brown stuff. man. That's old I was Wilcovington Jr. That was the most sick. There was something. You got Iowa.
Starting point is 01:05:50 What are you talking about? I like Iowa. I do like Iowa. I got to stop, man. He's crying. I got to stop. Oh my God. Oh, but what I meant was like,
Starting point is 01:06:02 I don't want to hear it. Flying over to where they play at Ireland. Yeah. Handling business. You see Kansas State have a hangover last week. Like after coming back from Iowa, and you know how it is traveling overseas and playing games after that. We usually get a buy week in the NFL if you're playing overseas.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Not anymore. But handling business the way Iowa State did last week, I'm like, are they going to have like a hangoverish game like coming back from being across the pond? And if they don't, they beat Iowa and they control the border because I was going to be a tough team this year. There would probably be like a four, four or three lost team like they always are. But they win that game. I'm just telling you, they're all this. You got Iowa.
Starting point is 01:06:38 I got Iowa. I like Iowa in this game. Old fashion. What was the total points in that game? Forty one and a half. It's low. I kind of like the over because of Rocco. So drop us another stab with the, with the 21's your number.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Iowa 33 and one when they scored 21 since 2020. So do they get to 21? They're on to something if they do. No. They're on to something. They're on to something. Grinowski, he gets 21 on the board there. Passing yards or points?
Starting point is 01:07:03 He might not get 21 passing yards. Yeah. My brain is working one step lower. So in that Ireland game, in that Ireland game, Kansas State hit two explosive past So if they can do that, it's Iowa's game. I don't know that they can do that. So I'm in Iowa State. That home curse against this team's been real though. Yeah. So like last time I was, I've only been to this game once. It was at Iowa State. Huge hyped game. Ashton Couther's there. It's a really big deal. And they turned it over like four times that day. I was got this
Starting point is 01:07:31 habit in this game of just waiting to have the game handed to him. And so like that's where I got to trust Rocco Beck. But I do trust him in this game. So I'm going to take him to win. Close. Generational talent. Yes. Let's go. I like that. Oh God. That one Holy shit, dude. This is the main event of the evening. This is the main event of the evening. We got the true classic game of the week. Every Sunday he's got a game, but only one fit is just right.
Starting point is 01:07:55 And this is the true classic game of the week. I am wearing the true classic pants right now, 36, 36, if you're wondering, a little scoched up around my crotch right now. But usually you're not even seen a little ankle. It's very nice. They fit perfectly. Hey, we have this episode to bring you true classic. Talk about the Pima shirts. I'm wearing that bad boy right now.
Starting point is 01:08:11 It's got a little curve on the side. grabs the arms, grab the shoulders. See this chest right here? I don't got a big chest, but with this shirt on, I might be able to distract you a little bit. You can find True Classic at Amazon and Costco Sam's Club and Target nationwide
Starting point is 01:08:23 or online at Trueclassic.com, forward slash busting. Look good, feel good, play good. Let's get back to this episode. The game this week, number 15, Michigan, in Norman, Oklahoma. Bryce Underwood takes on John Mateer. Michigan is dogs at five and a half points.
Starting point is 01:08:41 total points tonight there's no way the total points this game is 45 and a half buddy it's 45 and a half and i love it i bet you do everybody and their mother has sat there and told me about norman oklahoma we got in march people in oklahoma sat and said oh we're gonna suck they're not good it's gonna be a whole year john mottier we got it but who knows something happened there's a brewing all of a sudden where we get two weeks away from the season all of a sudden Oklahoma is like the greatest thing since slice spread. John Mateer is the greatest quarterback. He's a generational, he's a generational quarterback.
Starting point is 01:09:15 That's what they're saying about John Mateer. And go back and look at him at Washington state. This guy's a fucking dog. He puts up numbers every single. I went back and looked at John Mateer. I went back and looked at him. 2022, red shirt wasn't good enough to get on the field. 23, sat behind Cam Ward.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Pick this kid apart. Yeah, 24, they played one ranked game. They played one ranked game. That was September 28. That was against Boise State. Yeah, he had his numbers. He passed for over 300 yards in that game. They lost.
Starting point is 01:09:43 But also, Boise State was the third worst and past events in the Mountain West. Then they have to go, oh, no, on the road against, you know, the freight train of Fresno State. They got that Doug, 2517. That must have been a real barn burner for your boy, Mattier. Hawaii at Washington State, my God, 42 to 10. They really craked it up on them.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Then Utah State, where they won 4929. And then who did they lose to? The same team that Michigan just beat the breaks off of last week. New Mexico who went five and seven last year. People want to talk about Bryce Underwood. Yeah, he just turned 18 about 14 days ago. And now this is the biggest game of his life. And it is because he's a freshman.
Starting point is 01:10:17 But this is also John Mateer's biggest game of his entire life. The pressure is on Oklahoma. I don't think it would disagree with you. Venet ball. He's got a hell of a defense on him. But if they don't win this game in Norman, they're in hell. They're calling for him.
Starting point is 01:10:31 They're getting the shackles and chains out. They're sending his ass out of Norman. If they lose this game, the pressure is. all in Oklahoma. Oklahoma could not run the ball against an FSC, FSC school Illinois status. They had 100 yards rushing their freshman quarterback, freshman running back, rush for 44 yards. Mission's got a run game. They've got a defense where the two things you pack when you go away, you pack a run game and you pack a defense. I like my Wolverines money line.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Make sure that's in my record too. Money on. I just, first of all, just to recap, where did Mateer play out, Washington State? Yeah. You recap the Washington State season. Talk about Oklahoma Sooners. Like this is a different roster. They got some cats. Yeah, you want to talk about Oklahoma Sooners?
Starting point is 01:11:14 Their office line, they were 0 for three on third and fourth down with two yards or less. Three starters out. Three starters out. They don't like the lean on guys. Their defense is great in the middle. They have a great detackle. But when you talk about trenches, best on best, you take in the maize in blue. Because they're not, you think they're going to, they have Michigan has eight guys.
Starting point is 01:11:36 And I'm not talking about a front seven plus a guy. They have eight guys on the defensive line that they love. They love to rotate out that they all have a lot of talent that can go and stay fresh in a game in Norman, Oklahoma, and put the pressure on this offensive line. John Mateer is going to get his. No doubt about it. He's going to have a couple of great passes.
Starting point is 01:11:51 He's going to run the ball really well. But when it comes down to the morrow of it all, Michigan does an amazing job of exploiting your weaknesses, and when the pressure is on them, they have never been a team to fold. They're underdogs by 20 points against Ohio. State when they couldn't throw the ball. They were hated and torn apart about cheating and then they had to go play Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State, Alabama, and then Washington win the national
Starting point is 01:12:15 championship. It is in the blood of the University of Michigan. Like them or hate them. When it's pressure and their backs against the wall, they swing no matter what. That's what I like about Michigan over Oklahoma. Let me know when I can get a minute. I mean, I got, I mean, you can just say who you got. I love the over in this game. I was going to say, um, You're right. You talk about packing a run game and defense. Outside of explosive runs from Michigan, they had a couple or a few. They're averaging. 3.3 yards per carry. Yes, averaging 3.3 yards per carry. Against New Mexico, who is the 130th ranked defense last year out of 132 teams in college football.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I agree. This is the biggest game for both teams. This is hard for me to pick with the line being a five and a half. I'm not writing against you. So if I love anything in this game, I'm going to say over it because 45 and a half for me, that one feels like. Yep. Fando's gifted us. Tell them.
Starting point is 01:13:15 That's what it feels like to me. John Mateer, Bryce Underwood, I love how Michigan went into the game last week and had an identity and a game plan of what they wanted to do with them. As far as moving the pocket, easier throws. They didn't run them at all. And let the O line eat.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Again, figure out what you're going to be going into Norman. They were exactly who they wanted to be that game. Bryce Underwood, He is a freak. He jumps out on tape. So does what? Could he possibly be? He's a generational talent. Okay. He's a generational talent. John Mateer, generational talent.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Both great quarterbacks. I'm excited to watch this game. I'm excited to see Bryce Underwood at Norman against an Oklahoma team that seems to be getting a lot of love from the national media. They do have a really good football team. I love the over in this game, so I am going the over. All right. Michigan's got this DNA that travels. Fact check, true. Venables, huge pressure cooker game. Fact check, also true.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Two potentially generational quarterbacks with the way we define the word, fact check true. So I think because both of them are put in a situation, both quarterbacks put in a situation here, they've never been in before. Mater's never faced this level of competition or the spot. Underwood just started playing college football five minutes ago. So neither one of them have been in this position.
Starting point is 01:14:27 High leverage situation, I think it's right for quarterback mistakes to decide a game. And I cannot believe this number is only 45 and a half. I think it should be upper 40s. And so I think short fields are going to be more plentiful than are expected in a normal football game. I'm going to slightly lean Oklahoma. I think the number's right. So I got really no feel on the spread.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I love the over. What's your model have for the? Right at five. Oklahoma minus five. Oklahoma winning by five. Yeah. Yeah. So I got no feel on that.
Starting point is 01:14:56 But you're like you may very well be right. I've watched Michigan and do that too many times. So I'm not betting against them. I just think someone's, someone's finding a way to 28, 31. something like that to win this game. So Dionne Burke's, that wide receiver for Oklahoma. Can't wait to watch him. Could be a difference maker in the game.
Starting point is 01:15:12 And I mean, Oklahoma missed three offensive linemen last week. I don't know that they get them all back. They didn't start the cow running back transfer last week. There's a lot of speculation about whether he'll play this week. What's his workload? Give me the over. Give me Oklahoma slightly. Give me the over.
Starting point is 01:15:27 We have a guy like that too. Like Burke, his name is Samaj Morgan number zero. Yep. He's a jet sweep guy, a lot of punt return, kick return guy. Chip Lindsay comes in. He's now raped. I mean, this kid can actually run routes. He understands concepts.
Starting point is 01:15:36 He's tough as nails. He's fastest shit. We got one, too. Yep. We got one, too. Hope he scores. Cowards, both of you. For what reason?
Starting point is 01:15:44 I want to pick. I gave you a pick. This is my team's biggest game of the year. No, it's not. It's their biggest game to this point. As of right now, what's bigger, New Mexico or Oklahoma? Hey, hey, buddy, listen, I'm riding with Michigan. I want you guys to win.
Starting point is 01:15:59 But as far as me picking a game. That's new. What? You know. I like that. I appreciate it. I love it. Listen, I've rooted for Michigan on several occasions. Don't do this. I have.
Starting point is 01:16:13 You know, big SEC, big tenure. I've said, I've said, I've said, I've said, you know that Will. Yeah, I've said, Will, was on the allegation portion of Michigan. That was Willie Brown. Yeah, I was Willie B. That was Willie B. Yeah, I'm still on the allegation, the cheating stuff.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Yeah, I think you're garbage. I still think you're trash. Hate your program. I'm pulling for them, though. Yeah. Yeah. Are you doing Will or is that also you? Honestly, I don't know. That's why you're bulletproof.
Starting point is 01:16:40 That's why you're bulletproof. Can you draw a line in the same for me? And I need Michigan to be undefeated when they come into Lincoln. So yeah, I want Michigan to win this game. Oh, you want to pad the resume. When they come to this game. Yes, I do. Why do I not?
Starting point is 01:16:56 Because you want to feel confident about Nebraska. Michigan goes into Norman, Oklahoma. Because let's like, yeah, like you're going into a hostile environment, a team that feels really good about themselves, a fan base, it feels good about a team, kind of. And it's like, if you are the casual fan, you're looking at, if you're not, if you're not a Michigan fan, you're looking Oklahoma and being like, that's the team that's going to win this game.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Yep. And it's like, if Michigan does do what a lot of people think they can't do, and Bryce Underwood is as advertised in what he's been paid. Uh-oh. Then you're sitting in, we're just talking about strictly bus and bull. We're shitting our pants a little bit if you're in Lincoln, Nebraska. No, bro. I want to see, like, the big, the thing that, what?
Starting point is 01:17:32 What? Go. I want to hear the rebuttal. I love this. I mean, is that not? I mean, if you love, yeah. I want Nebraska to be a great football program. The schedule that we have this year is very favorable. But I don't want, like, if you guys get beat and it's like an ugly loss against Oklahoma, and we end up beating you guys on September 20th, like, I still don't know what we got. And I don't want it to wait until USC or Penn State. And then we get whooped. And it's like, you know, you got this fodder, you got this, oh, we're undefeated, but we're not really an undefeated football team. I want you guys to be good, so we are playing against a good team on September 20th.
Starting point is 01:18:11 When lose draw, I want to know what we got in Lincoln, Brewing in Lincoln, Nebraska. So you're wrong. I want you guys to play well. I want Bryce Underwood to be as advertised. I want to taste that competition on September 20th. I welcome it. I want it. It's a warrior's mentality.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Not a lot of it left out there. I think you're in the minority. It's a good word. Not a lot of it left. It's a generational mentality. You brought me back. Not a lot of guys who sit on here and say that you brought him back, you brought me back. Love the over. Yeah. I do what? Will you sprinkle Michigan plus five and a half? Yeah, I'll sprinkle for you. But I'm saying if we're streaming the game, yeah, absolutely. Dude, I'm going to be rooting for you guys. I'm going to be rooting for you guys. You can understand, it's a little different than the last couple of years. Like you've looked at me in the eyes on that bus and said, I want Michigan to.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Because, bro, there's just an arrogance that the Michigan men can have about themselves. I don't disagree. And I'm one of them. Yeah, yeah, to where it's like the padding on the Nebraska head. Let's make Nebraska mediocre again. It's like, no, okay, yeah. I hope you guys fail. This is Wilcofton coming from an abusive relationship, big pornoid coming to me.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Listen, you tried being Portnoy 2.0 as well. Well, listen, when you're, when I'm in Lincoln and we are playing for the bus and bowl, Yeah, I'm going to talk down to you a little bit. Just like you would talk when we're, whoop that candy ass, we got 60 minutes at your heart turned black. I get it. That was a good speech. It was a good speech.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Yeah, 45 minutes. I'm just saying, like, Dave can do what Dave wants in that situation. Yeah, have I had a couple of sprinkles of Dave on you, no doubt, but I haven't been that to you. You're not him. I'm not Dave. Yeah. And I have also consistently rooted for Nebraska. Are you sprinkling Michigan plus five and a half?
Starting point is 01:19:55 If you give me five and half, I'll sprinkle Michigan. I mean, it's there. It's on the field. I'll sprinkle Michigan. I'll sprinkle Michigan. I will hammer the over. Okay. So whatever you do, score 30 when you do it.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Yeah. It's a big game for you. Could you imagine Bryce Underwood? Like just being the generational quarterback? You wouldn't be alone using that word. If he goes in there and wins like that. This is the same guy, Brent Venables, who watched Tua smoke the SEC all year.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Get him in a national championship game. Lull him into a false sense of security between the 20s and just dominate him down in the red zone. That's why I think rushing yards, It's not actually the most important thing here. This is one of those like Penn State, Ohio State situations. Penn State runs the ball for 200 and still loses on Ohio State because between the 20s, they get theirs, field compresses.
Starting point is 01:20:38 They can't do anything down in the red area. That's Brent and Venable's entire MO. So like I want to see Michigan because there are going to be about three or four situations. They get plus territory. They get down inside the 20 decision making there. How much should they trust Underwood on the road? Michigan staff. And what can Brent Venables do to him?
Starting point is 01:20:53 Because that's really probably where our total is decided. That's absolutely where the game's decided. Jay Sean Barham. Garbage. Not him. The call. Garbage. Yeah. Okay. I agree. Ridiculous. It was absolutely ridiculous. And they went to appeal and they're like, nope, Big Ten even shut it down. And it's like, you can't tell me that's a little bit of targeting is really broken in college football. Really broken.
Starting point is 01:21:13 It's broken. You want to call that roughing? Whatever. That's a heartbreaking loss. And that is, I mean, that was the drive. There was three separate penalties on third down. So that was a strip sack fumble brought back for a touchdown. They called that targeting. They knew set of downs. Then they're in third and 12. They end up getting another penalty, getting in the first intent, which would let them get another seven points. When you look at the box score, that's your like, okay,
Starting point is 01:21:37 Michigan maybe not had the best day ever. I think on defense, we're solid, but we're very vanilla on both sides of the ball. I'm excited. Agreed. I'm Jack. I'm going. I'm Jack. I know.
Starting point is 01:21:47 I'm kind of jealous you're going. Bus and bowl? Let's talk about it. Are you going to the buss and bowl and are you going to my birthday? When's your birthday? September 19th. So, the Friday, that's where the live show is. We got Bustin Bowl on September 20th.
Starting point is 01:22:01 I'm going to verbally commit to your birthday. That's a verbal. That's a soft verbal. Yeah. I've missed so many of those birthdays. I can't miss this one. Not this year. Dog of the week.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Yeah. You hit your dog of the week. Oh, we still got dogs. Outright. Didn't even need the points. I think I may need the points this week. I would have been a statement win. Still looks the same on your win loss record.
Starting point is 01:22:26 You were cruising. You got the big new kickoff game, Ohio State, Texas, midway through the game. It's like, oh, USF. Yeah. Boy, you were standing in the, we were standing in the stadium and looking at the thing because I had Syracuse
Starting point is 01:22:37 plus the points too. And me and you were going back and forth, Tennessee took the lead. Cuse, back in the lead. We were right. We found out the scoreboard was broken. Tennessee was just pulling away. We went out and we were like,
Starting point is 01:22:49 Jack, you okay? Yeah, it's a great day, right? I'm been fine. You see the score of the game? I was like, what happened defensively? He's like, we're playing pretty good. I'm like, we scored multiple times. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Because we thought it was like 24, 21 balls. Back and forth. Jack was like, yeah, it's 24. four seven or something like that. Yeah. Oh shit. Yeah. All right my fault. Dog of the week. I'll be quick. Charlotte. I got them plus 12 and a half against UNC. Bill Belichick. These girlfriend, stilettos on the sideline next to the players, unless you're a cheerleader, it doesn't work. It's not going to happen. No disrespect to Bill Belichick. I love him. I love what he did with the Patriots for as long as you did. But you hear the things with the five-star recruits coming in
Starting point is 01:23:23 and they wait an hour, hour and a half for Bill Belichick that it turns out you can't go see Bill Belichick. Let's take you to the airport. All of those things. And then you see the result on the field, it's going to be a very short tenure for Bill Belichick. I got Charlotte covering 12 and a half. My dog is going to be Army plus 17 and a half. When you don't know what to do, who do you pick? You pick your country. Kansas State, what they put on film in the last two weeks, I have zero reason to think they're going to cover 17 and a half against Army, so I'm choosing the country, Army plus 17.5. Shout on Avery Johnson's family, and probably another fist fight on the horizon. Pavia's family too, getting in fights after the game. Yeah, but I heard Pavi's family was like
Starting point is 01:23:58 protecting their brother. I think that's as Pavi as you can. get. Wrestling family. I mess with it. Yeah. Like they were tarps off, bandanas on. They're out there getting, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:06 full of Nelson's chokes. I'm going to go to James Madison. Do what? Army did just lose to an FCS team. That's not a way to support your country, Mitch. Wow. Like, no one's history is perfect. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:24:18 We did some bad shit, but we're still the best. Give me James Madison, plus 13 and a half against Louisville. He's the crazy. James Madison fights all! Yeah. The NBA fight song just went on. Yeah, good timing, Delaney. That was beautiful.
Starting point is 01:24:35 JMU 13 and a half against Louisville. They lose by about 10. I love it. Quick potty break to shut up, boosting with the boys. If you don't already know, the boys have a 50% profit boost token available every college football Saturday. That's a 50% boost on any college football Saturday bet. Just open up the Fanduals sportsbook app this Saturday.
Starting point is 01:24:53 And look out for the boosting with the boys profit boost token. Back to this episode. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?
Starting point is 01:25:08 Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early, names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
Starting point is 01:25:42 And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Imagine an Olympic. where doping is not only legal but encouraged.
Starting point is 01:26:03 It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app,
Starting point is 01:26:24 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. Jacob met Levant to a billion-dollar fraud.
Starting point is 01:27:01 But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:27:25 weekly parlay. I'm taking Illinois minus two and a half. I love this pick. I love this pick because Josh Pink wanted to pick. I already took it. Then Wilcofton wanted to pick. You finding out I already took it. Duke, you paid your quarterback a billion dollars. I don't think it's enough. I think Illinois is kind of a disrespectful team in the Big Ten. Yep. Two and a half points. Two and a points. Take that. Run with it. Bielma. Run with it. Bilema. Hey, love that pick. I'm going Ole Miss minus ten and a half. Revenge game against Kentucky. Ten of half. Run it up. Run it up. Lane Kiffin. Who's a mincy? I had to watch that game with mincy after surviving Barstow when we were eliminated and he, I swear to God we're sitting in the house and he goes,
Starting point is 01:28:07 Taylor, I'm telling you right now. Old Miss is going to kill Kentucky. I put like two grand on the game. Yeah, and he was about to off himself. Mincy. You know who Mincy is? No, I know all too well who Mincy is. Mincy telling me this and I hate, I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah. I'm a little, I'm a little cooked up. I didn't watch too many rocking movies and be like, hell yeah. Did you think about that fan base, how pissed off Mincy was. That's what you know. need going into this. Did you watch the game with him? Oh, I watched the game with him. I actually had to go into a different room because he must have sounded like a jackhammer operator by the end of that game. What are we doing? Everything was just
Starting point is 01:28:37 the most dramatic thing ever. Three yard games weren't good enough for them. That was mad. Yeah. Give me SMU minus two and a half against Baylor. Baylor's going to start O-N-2. SMU. You want to talk about disrespected Illinois? What about them? Man, they played in the conference title game last year. Oil money too. Yeah, no one even cares about him. J-Pee-Pol's not even talking about him. J-Peeples not top 20. SMU, SMU Sleeper. Super Boys right there. I'll take them.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Money in that program. That parlay minus two, Illinois minus two and a half, SMU minus two and a half, and Ole Miss minus 10 and a half. That totals out to plus 583. Fanduil sports book. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Boys, do we have anything else? I do want to say one thing last year, last week. I did not hit the parlay. I did not bet the parlay. I want to let the fans know this week. I am betting this parlay.
Starting point is 01:29:19 This one feels good. Character move. Yeah. I want to be honest with our audience. Yep. Yeah. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Thank you guys.
Starting point is 01:29:26 See you next week. 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 plus and present in DC. Opt-in required. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply, including any token expiration and max wager amount. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling problem? Call 1-800 gambler or visit RG-Help.com.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Call 1888-789-77777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. Hope is here. Gambling helpline, MA.org, or call 80032750 for 247 support in Massachusetts. Visit www.m.md.gamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Call 1-8-8-Hop-N-Y or text Hope N.Y 46737369 in New York. Must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 plus and present in D.C. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable bonus bets, which,
Starting point is 01:30:26 seven days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.Fanduel.com. Gambling problem, call 1-800 gambler or visit fanduel.com slash RG. Call 1-88-7-8-7-7 or visit ccpg.org or visit n d gambling help.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit Gamblinghelpline, MA.org or call 800-3-2-7-50 for 24-7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-8-7-8-Hope-N-Y or text Hope, NY in New York. Hey guys, it's us and the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
Starting point is 01:31:00 I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
Starting point is 01:31:10 We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care. you hear it. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where SportsSlice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headlines. And we're going straight to the source,
Starting point is 01:31:46 the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicalife 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on, a Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman. Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud. But how long can this alliance last? Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me?
Starting point is 01:32:24 Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.