Bussin' With The Boys - Josh Wolf Is Leaving Nashville, Likes When Babies Pee On Him? And The Difference Between Good & Bad Football Cultures

Episode Date: December 1, 2021

Recorded: November 29, 2021 | It has been a long time since the man with the most contagious laugh of all time was on the bus. Last time the boys saw Josh Wolf he was teaching them how to read ads, but times have changed. (1:00) Why Josh is leaving Nashville & how LA changed him (12:35) Josh's goal of having his nuts out on stage, lifting up another mans kilt, and dad advice for Will. (38:00) Will tells stories of being the oldest sibling and how he teased his younger brother out of reading. (55:36) Josh's Playboy golf tournament experience (1:19:40) The hardest Will has ever been hit on the football field (1:26:00) Andrew Luck's retirement and players struggling with identity after football (1:38:20) Difference between a successful team's locker room and an unsuccessful team's locker room (1:48:47) Will's favorite college and NFL coaches We would like to thank all of our listeners and people who made this past Black Friday the best one we have seen so far. Your support means more to us than you'll ever know, and we are grateful for each and every one of you! ----- EARN YOUR WOLF: Want to be featured on our Instagram Story? Screenshot this episode, tag @bussinwtb, and share it to your Story. The Boys will take care of the rest... ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Hooters: Visit https://barstool.link/HootersBarstool and use code BARSTOOL for $10 off $50+ orders Revitalyte: Pick up your Revitalyte Black Label today in-store or online at the Barstool Store and tweet at us or tag @drinkRevitalyte in your morning after stories Rhoback: Go to https://barstool.link/bussin and use the code BUSSIN for 20% off your first order! Vincero: Go to https://barstool.link/VinceroBUSSIN and use Promo Code BUSSIN at checkout for 15% off applied on entire order WhistlePig Whiskey: How do you give 100%?! Get your own bottle at barstool.link/WhistlePigWhiskeyBSS or at a local retailer.For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Second time on the bus. That's right. A new location? Yeah, dude. What do you think? This is a step up, man. Right? This is nice.

And that thing over there, that other trailer? The air stream. that we have? Airstream? Come on. We don't know what we're doing with it yet, but we'll get something going. Yeah. I was stoked for you to ask what's the address because I couldn't wait to give you a new address.

It was, yeah. And by the way, seven minutes from my house. Really? Easy. Boa, did I tell you, I'm moving? No. Were you moving? So my wife, the one thing that we love about here is everything.

The one thing that we hate is the weather. Yo, my wife was like, nobody told us there's only 200 days of sunshine. That 200 days of sunshine. the sunshine is a real it sneaks up on you it does and and so my wife is a she likes the desert so we're moving to Vegas oh you're going to Vegas I was thinking you're going to say Arizona or something you're going to Vegas yeah I'm not 900 years old I don't want to move to Arizona I'm going to go to sleep there I uh Vegas is still has a lot of the stuff that I like to do you know I can still work there I can fly in and out of there I love to gamble um and I you know

Are you good at gambling? What do you like to gamble on? It completely depends. When I'm high, I like the slots. And when I'm sober, I like crabs. And I like crabs because I like the community of crabs. I like the screaming. The energy.

I love the energy. There's always that one asshole that bets with the house. That dude is the most unpopular. You know what that dude? The dude who bets with the house is the same dude who tells you tomatoes of fruit. A tomato's a fruit guy. Nobody likes you. Nobody likes.

Tomatoes a fruit guy. And nobody likes a dude who bets with the house, you know? But I love craps. And I was just telling you when I take mushrooms, I like to play slots because I like the bells and the whistles. Rubbing your nipples. Yeah, he rubbed my nipples when I'm on shrooms. That's not a joke, by the way. I'm not just randomly saying loving rubbing your nipples.

Apparently, he says he likes to rub his nipples. I do. I do this a little bit when I'm on shrooms. But, but, and so not only that, dude, I'm an empty nester. My kids are old. Like the dream, not the dream, but the idea for Beth and I, my wife, is for the next five years, every year, we're going to live someplace different. I think Denver is next, although she's not going to like that weather. That's the one I'm picking.

And then we're going to find a spot. But like, we've been in L.A. We were in L.A. for 20 years. And I think it's kind of fun to just go live other places. Like, what the fuck? Why not? It is true. Do you know what I mean?

Like, I'm not got, I can do my. job anywhere. I can do my and so why not go see and do things that I haven't seen and done. So we're going to head to Vegas. So are you keeping a place here though? Yeah. Because I want to come back and do my show. Definitely going to come back into my show once a month. And I love all the people I met here, dude. Like I've been more creative here this year. Nashville brought me back to myself. L.A. took something for me and I didn't realize it. When I look back at who I was those last two years in LA, I'm embarrassed. Why is that?

Because I turned into somebody that I couldn't believe I turned into. You know, I'm a really, look, I'm a confident, secure dude. I'm confident in who I am. I know what I'm good at. I know what I'm not good at. I don't get bothered by what other people say about me. None of that shit. The last two years in L.A., you're surrounded by people who you perceive as more successful

than you, who have more than you, in your own mind. right and it's on your phone all the time nobody's posting their ls on instagram they're right you don't post the l you post the w's so all you think about is why this person has this and why this person has this and i was always comparing myself to the last two years i spent in l a i spent out of gratitude not grateful for what i did i've always my whole life been thought of what i do and what i can do i've never been a guy who thought about what i can't do and what i don't have anytime I thought about people or listen to people talk that way, I'm like, why the fuck would you focus on that?

Why are you focusing on what you don't have? Focus on what you do have, which is like a lot in perspective to other people everywhere, you know? And I had just become a dude who was wrapped up in other people's business. Is that something you kind of knew in that last year? Like different, or was there like an aha moment? So it was when you moved here, it came here. When I got here, I started to feel like myself again. is the best way I can put it.

And then I looked back at who I was and I just felt embarrassed. I was embarrassed for some of the things that I had said out loud. I was embarrassed. It's like some, why aren't I on this podcast? Why don't I get to hang out with this dude? Why aren't I getting booked here? And none of that fucking matters.

When I look at my life, dude, I got a good life. I've done some shit. I continue to do some shit. And post that weird shit. Yeah, man. I love it. I love it.

And so what? I complaining about. And Nashville brought me back to, yeah, just have fun. You get one ride on this rock. I'm not going to spend it worrying about how other people are living their lives.

I'm going to focus on what the fuck I do. And I like to have a good time, dude. Right. That's it. I like to wake up every day and be like, you know, what am I going to do today that's going to be fun? How am I going to dominate this day?

Yeah. And it's changed back. I've been more creative this year here than in the last probably five years combined in that way. Was there something about Nashville? Something about the people? Or maybe it was being around new scenery that... I wasn't surrounded by the business.

It wasn't people talking about it all the time. I wasn't inundated with it. It's normal people. When I'm... You know, when I talk to people during the day, they don't give a shit what I do or what... We're just talking about normal things. It's not always talking about...

What, did you hear about this person did this? Or this person got this or how you're going to book this? Or I didn't book that. it's just living your life, you know, which is what I always saw my friends do. I'm like, man, you guys look like you're having a good time out there. Yeah.

You know, and that's what it is. And plus Nashville has normal people. He said, normal people. These are normal people. Depends on where you are. This is like the date rape crew. Yeah.

Hey, Alex ain't like that way. Hey, hey, chit-jah. Falls out the back door. I'm not with this crew, man. But yeah, man. So I've really, I'm so grateful for what I've got back here, what I've got back here. And I'm looking forward to taking that wherever they go. But, but like meeting guys like you, man, like, and doing things like, this is a very cool podcast.

This is very relaxed. When I was here the last time and you guys, I never met you before. And you guys were, I was making fun of you guys for how you read the. Yeah, for reading that. Yeah. And I was like, these are just two normal dudes. These are just two normal. I've never met these dudes, and they're okay with me laying into them a little bit.

Like, oh, yeah. This is normal people who aren't caught up too much. You feel like there's not a lot of that in L.A.? Everyone's caught up in it. It's impossible not even if you think you're normal, you're caught up in it. That's it. Why didn't I get a spot of the comedy store? He's not funnier than me.

How come they got that slot? Who gives a fuck? Go do your job. Go do your job. You can't worry about any of it. that I stuff. And so I had been doing that. And now, look, I'm doing my last show, that big show that we do on December 15th here,

it's going to be bananas. But this December 15th? Yeah. But I would have... Are you sold out? I don't even know. I mean, you can use this. You can plug away. This is coming out on Wednesday, bro. Oh, it is? Yeah. December 15th is going to be... You've been to one of those shows.

In Zanis? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jelly Roll was there. That was the night. That was the night you threw up. Yeah.

Yeah. Waffle shit the bed. I threw up. Yeah. Waffle shit the bed, my bulldog. Shit the bed? Are you sure it was the bulldog?

Dog. I listen. They were pulling some joke because when I was telling the story, they're like, that's sad that you blames it on waffle. Yeah. But I had passed out, right? And it already sounds bad. It sounds like I shit the bed, bro.

You don't think you can shit when you pass out? No. But so I was, wake up in my my English bulldog waffles sitting at the end of the bed and I kind of like wake up and I see this stream going down from her butthole dude because bulldogs their but holes are like exposed yeah and there's like this trail going down from a bun I like look up and it was smeared down I look on the bed shit on the bed shit all over the floor she had diarrhea all over the floor it was wait a second and i had this was one of the worst hangovers I've ever had my life was with that night with you guys and jelly roll yeah you put them back bro that after that little after hours when we were just chilling at zanis oh and you and you're Jelly Roll just comes up with like these double shots of tequila. Yeah, yeah. We're putting him back. Mistake number one is thinking that you're going to hang with jelly when he drinks.

Right. That's mistake number one. Like, and I hadn't drank in five years until I met that dude. I had not had a drink in five years. Yeah. And you know how he is. Come on.

Hey, Joshua. Come on, Bubba. Yeah, come on, Bubba. And I'm like, he looks like he's having a good time. Yeah. But then you're like, you just do one. And his one shot is like a cocktail. It's like a full-on glass of...

Come on, Bubba for the boys. Come on, Bubba. Yeah. And you're like, ah, well, he's calling me, Bubba. I guess I got to do it. You know? But, like... And then that guy, that show is crazy.

This upcoming show, I'm being crazy. I don't want to tell you... I don't want... There's one... Something. I can just tell you there's a dude who's coming who won't let me advertise him or put him on the market. That's all I can tell you.

can you say it to us now? We'll just bleep it out. Uh, uh, oh, the boys, don't bleep it out. Uh, you guys will bleep it out?

Yeah, 100%. This is a for the boys podcast, man. Oh. Yeah, we're going to write, he's one of the funniest people I know.

And I know, he's written a ton of funny songs, just because he's a funny dude. Right. So you're going to come down. Plus some other, you know, Philip Sweet, my buddy from Little Big Town will be down there. Brooke Eden and plus Dusty Slay, John Christ.

Like, it is going to be a banger. And it's the last one, so we're going to, you know, I've been known every now and then to try to take my nuts out on stage and see if people, see if people notice him. You ever hung brains before? We used to play hang brains in college. You guys never hang brains? So we have no clue.

You've never played hang brains before? And I'm thinking, what the fuck is he talking about? So we used to... You don't hang brains in college, man? Yeah, we used to take our nuts sack out and walk into a bar. This was definitely pre-20201 where you could probably go to jail for it. You know what I mean? Pre-2021.

We're talking 2020. So we used to take our nuts out. And the last person who got his nuts noticed got his drink spot for the whole night. And I will tell you something right now. You know who never noticed our nuts? Women. You know who always noticed? notice our nuts?

There was always a guy who was like, hey, your nuts are out, bro. And I was like, yeah, man, I know, your nuts are out though.

I'm like, yeah, why are you looking? You know, yeah, why are you checking? Wait on the chicks, man. Yeah, but, so hang brains,

I've always one of the hang brains on stage and just see how long it takes everyone to be like, it's not tightly, it's not sad, it's not sure, so we might do that.

I mean, what are they going to do? Kick me out. I'm moving. Yeah, well, yeah. So you're,

you're moving. when you're leaving ASAP, you're leaving soon. I'm leaving December 17th, so two days after the show. Yeah, listen, the only reason we're not leaving December 16th is because I'm assuming I'll be so fucked up on December 15th after the show. We're going to hang out in the bar. You should come, dude. I'll come.

It's a Wednesday. It's a school night. I feel like my reservation is coming from feeling like we're building this rapport and this little relationship we have going to right now, and you're leaving. You're leaving. I'll be back. When? I'm going to come back once a month to do the show.

and I film things here all the time. Like we've been, we've been filming like bananas here. So we'll be back. I filmed my special here. Like, I filmed two specials over the past year in Nashville. Where'd you do that? I did one at Zanis. And I did one during COVID.

I had to do it in a sound, in a studio, sound studio. This was so weird. Sound studio, everyone in masks, everyone's six feet apart. Only 20 people. So I just saw their eyes doing this. it was weird i couldn't tell if they were laughing or having convulsions like it was so bananas i couldn't hear anyone laugh and i've watched the special and my agent's like why aren't you putting those clips out on youtube i'm like it's telling jokes in silence i mean it's i'm into weird and i don't

really but i can't even watch it you know it's it's a tough thing to yeah silent jokes is like although I did eat shit for a good 15 minutes the other night I was trying these new jokes I don't know what the equivalent in sports to eating shit is I mean I'm but it's like you are trying something that you think is going to be great and it's not like you're like there was one joke I was ready to do and I was like this joke is murder murder

crickets crickets what do you do in those moments immediately my butthole went and I was like oh no I basically I you know honestly what I do because I'm very present on stage I ask him

I go what didn't you like about that hey we're going to take a time stop the timer we're going to stop this right now what did you not like about that joke I go what didn't you like about that and one guy goes everything and I was like okay well that I was like, what this is such a, I love fucking around on stage, dude.

If you come to my live show, every show is different. On Friday, we were in Huntsville. And my buddy Philip from Little Bigtown came down. And he was playing with me on stage. And I wrote six different versions to this one song. And I was like, well, we got a live audience here. I was like, I want you guys to be my focus group. I'm going to play all six versions.

And you guys will tell me which one's the best. Like, I like doing stuff like that. So I don't mind stopping the show and being like, why did you think that sucked? Yeah. Oh, they'll tell you, too, when you ask them. I'll tell. I did one story that I love. I go, who thought that was too long? I'm just curious.

And, like, half the crowd was like, way too long. And I was like, I'm sorry, I asked that. I'm going to tell it exactly the same next time. I thought you guys enjoyed it. But I, yeah, man, I like doing all that. I like the fact that when you come see me, you know you're not going to see that exact show ever. That's my, I get bored too easy, dude.

If I did the same hour every night, imagine doing the same pile. podcast every week. Yeah, I mean, it seems like it'd be boring. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Now, some people are. But you're in front of a crowd.

Like, we're not in front of a crowd. You know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like if I was doing something like that, I wouldn't mind sticking to what I know. Oh, hey, they laughed at that? All right. 45 minutes.

Yeah, cops telling the same jokes 10 years later, man. He's on stage. 45 minutes. 35 minutes. You're going to see the same. It's at 25. I'm not doing a brand new hour. that 25 minutes. It's what keeps me engaged. It's what makes me have fun. And if I'm having

fun, you're having fun. And if I'm bored, you're going to be bored. That's just it. You know, so how do I keep it good for both of us? You know, I bring people on stage with me. I practice one woman on stage, one night and her boyfriend broke up with her when she was on stage. On the way onto the state. So I do this bit where I play I want it that way by the Backstreet Boys. Yeah. And then I'll bring three people on stage to do interpretive dance behind me while I do it. It's just weird and fun. And the best dancer wins their server $100.

So I give the server right away $100. And I'm like, great job, right? The guy goes, if you go up there, I'm breaking up. She came up on stage. Dude, dumped her from the crap. Dumped her from the crap. Did he get up and leave? Yep.

Left her there. Would you tell her, it's all good. Look at Joe. I go, she, yeah, she was. cute. So I go, who wants to give this young lady a ride home? And every dude who looked like that was like me. That's me. I would like to do that. Yeah, is that a freebie? Yeah, I'll take that one. I've had, yo, and weird things happen to my show. A couple weeks ago in Dallas, I had a dude show up in a kilt in the front row. And I was like, why are you wearing a kilt, man? And he goes, I wrestle

in East Texas. I do like, he had red hair and a red beard. And I go, oh. And he goes, you know, I do the whole Irish thing. I go, that's fun. And I was like, you know, I do the whole Irish thing. I go, did you wrestle today? And he goes, no. Why are you wearing the kilt? And he started to shake his hips like this. What are you doing? He goes, things get sticky in Dallas. I just like to keep him loose. And I was like, oh, what the fuck? And I go, he goes in the front row, I go, but are you wearing underwear? And he said, I'll tell you what I tell everybody else. You got to lift it up to find out. And I said, I want to tell

you something. You're challenging the wrong guy. I would, are you telling me you're going to let me lift up your kilk? And he said, yeah. And I go, and there's going to, might be human dick under there. And he said, that's right. I go, I'm in. So he leans. Hey, hang on, hang on. There might be human dick in there. Yeah, I'm fucking in. Yeah, man, because that's going to make it weird. I'm on board for making everyone uncomfortable. That, I like that, right? So he leans back and he spreads his legs wide. And he goes just like this. He goes, get in there. And I was like, but that's aggressive, bro. But you're into it. Yeah. He was trying to, yeah, man. Let's go.

He was trying to make me uncomfortable, which I can't have. So I tried to make him uncomfortable. When he sat back and spread his legs, I dropped right to my knees. Then he leaned back and he goes, do you have to do that from your knees? And I was like, yeah. So I reached down and I grabbed the kilt. And on the outside, cool is cucumber. But you know when you're so nervous, dude, it's like your butt holes gasping for breath.

You know when your butt holes like, get us out of here? Come on. His butthole now. His butt hole is like, come on. It's like it's eating your underwear. Now it's breathing. Yeah. Pulling everything in.

And so, so I lifted up, but I didn't know this about the kilt. Two sides of the kilt. One side is just more kilt. And I go, oh, that's just kilt. And he goes, yeah,

I hide the treasure on the other side. I was like this fucking shit. And then I. This lepriccon looking motherfucket. I lifted up the kilt. human dick yeah human dick human dick and it was a red-headed situation i'd never seen one of those before it was a lot brighter than i expected it to be and this dude was all potatoes no meat you know what i mean like he his dick looked like it fell asleep on his nuts just his dick look like it was blowing a bubble

you know just decent confidence though knowing you have that you're working with that and it's like hey do what you got to do i love the confidence and you know what it was and some people like that was terrible, right? I'm like, are you kidding? That was the opening of the show. He said, are you kidding? I hadn't told a joke. That was great. 15 minutes in. I'm like, we've, rooms blown up. We've seen human dick. I've never seen a red-headed situation.

And I've never seen, I truly looked like his dick was blowing a bubble. I had never seen, I had never seen a situation like that, like the nuts were tight and large. And the dick was just like, it was like, just, it looked like it was just winking at you. Yeah. Just like a tiny little, like a belly button, like a double belly button, dude. But it was amazing.

Yo. We're back to Buss with the boys, the old days, man. But yeah, I, I like stuff like that. It's weird. It's weird. You like weird shit. I like weird. Yeah, I don't need to see Dick at every show.

Just everybody, everybody's listening. Well, I guess I'll come to a show. No, I don't need to see. That was a one-time thing, everyone. You know what I mean? Was it? I mean. Yeah, right, right, right.

Yeah, by the way, you get an invitation to a party of my house, must wear kilt. What? Oh, bro. I like it, man. I like to keep things a little weird, you know? Yeah. So come to the show on the 15th.

So how was your Thanksgiving then? If you like weird shit, how was Thanksgiving? Thanksgiving was good. You know, my son, you met my son. Yeah. He was here. My daughter was in town. You know, I had a little, I've been having just a tiny little health thing

that I've been trying to figure out. I oh yeah talk about that so he Josh came in with these you know his style of sunglasses I guess you tell me these glasses don't match these shoes they definitely match and you're a weird cat so it all makes sense yeah this all checks right doesn't it okay it looks like a creature from men and black with those glasses on but I um maybe about 10 days ago 12 days ago I started to feel a little thumping in my kidneys my right kidney And I was like, but sometimes the road, when I'm on the, and I've been on the road a bunch trying to work this new hour because I just did my hour. And so on the road, I just don't eat that healthy.

And I felt some thumping and I was like, maybe I'm dehydrated and drinking too much coffee. But I just started, I was sweating from everywhere just for no reason. And I was like, that's not healthy, you know. And so I got back home and I had a bite to eat and my eyes swelled up. My feet swelled up. And I was just getting really just tired. My eyes also under here, it felt like I had been burnt. Like it was to the touch, like hurt.

And so I was like, what is going on in big black, not just normal, almost like I looked like a WAAE wrestler. Like I had makeup on and swollen. And I was like, this is bananas. And it basically was with any kind of meat, salt, sugar. I basically was down to raw potato vegetable. And one of the doctors and your blood tests which should come back tomorrow. But, you know, the worst thing you can do is Google.

WebMD. Oh, my, Google. They might as well just come up and say, you're about to die. Yeah. But you don't have long. No, everything. I'm not a dude who needed to lose weight.

Right. And I think I probably lost, depending on what time of the day, six to eight pounds over the week. Fuck, man. But you, you, I mean, You've only known me since I've been here. I was a dude probably stopped pre, like at quarantine.

But up until quarantine, I was a dude who walked around 180, 9, 10% body fat all the time. I've been, when I was younger, not jacked like 200, but I've been jet. Like my dad's 85, man. This dude shoots below his age and golf. He looks the same. Like, I got good genes. this is the first time I've ever felt and looked like this before. So it's really bananas.

But not being able to eat especially high at Thanksgiving, that was a real bummer. Nosey has an issue, gets high and goes into Thanksgiving. Yeah, listen, I'm no quitter. You know, I'm not going to let a little kidney problem take away my good time. But it's the same thing. Is the same stuff currently happening? Yeah, it's going down.

So you already eat meat, salt? sugar right now. Like, no, dude. If you, if I ate a piece of meat right now, it would just, it's almost immediate. It's almost immediate. Like, I can feel it. Like, I can, I'm, I'm aware of my kidney at all times. It's like a dull.

And so the dude gets me my, he'll get me my results tomorrow. And we'll see. I mean, I've done too much Googling on it. So there's a myriad of things that it could be. So you're nervous. No, you know what? And I actually Googled it just so I was like, it's almost just for information. But I don't get nervous because there's nothing I can do about it.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. If I worry about it, I don't think it's going to make it any better. I'm not a doctor. So I can't fix it. I can just wait until I get the results and go from there. But I'm not going to spend, I can either worry about it and not know until tomorrow or not worry about it and not know it until tomorrow.

And one sounds way better than the other. but I, for sure, I don't need to, I don't need to get down to high school weight. Do you know what? What are you waiting right now? I'm probably at 158. What's the last time of you were 158? I don't know, man. I would say, eighth grade?

No, I was 175. You were at once in? No, no, no, no. I was, I was 180 as a freshman. I would say I was probably 160, 16, 165 as an eighth grader. So seventh eighth grade. middle schools when I was 155. That doesn't make me feel great.

But, but yeah, I don't think I'll ever get back. I don't ever want to work out the way I used to work out. So I'll never get back to 180 and doing that bodyweight shit. But I'd love to live around 170 and, you know, and be, like, I look like a sick kid. When I put a, I put a, when I put this hat on too big, like when I don't make it tight and it hangs down around my ears. it's a tough look you know what I mean yeah my when I did it this morning as a joke and my wife got down on one name was like come here a little buddy come on let me give you a hug and I was like that I don't like that come here a little buddy come on come on little buddy picks you up yeah

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Yeah, I've never heard. I've just seen that they have good wings. And when you're young, when you're a kid, dude, you're like so stoked to go. Come on. When you're 14 and you go to Hooters and you, like, you don't go to the bathroom the whole time because you're scared to stand up. Hooters has game day specials to keep you hydrated and filled up on your Hooters. favorites all season long. If you can't make it to Hooters for the game,

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Where are you both from? Oh, yeah. Are you psyched at? When's the baby come out? March 27th. Now, have people giving you advice and all that, stuff. Maybe there's been a couple, but the majority of people do are like, hey, you're going to get a lot of unsolicited advice.

And, you know, no one really knows. That's it. You're going to love it. You're going to learn as you go. And obviously, if you have questions, every friend's always like, you know, I'm here to help if you ever have a question. But people are going to try and tell you stuff and, like, no one's going to fucking know. Baby books are the biggest piece of shit. They just make you feel bad because you're like, wait a kid.

my kid's too and he's not doing this yet. So you think your kid's dumb or some shit? I'll for sure be that. I'll be that guy for sure. If they're not doing something by the age two and I think they should be. Somebody, you know, so. Like, hey, we got a problem. There was a, there was, we were in Jacob's preschool, my youngest son.

And, by the way, they hated me at that preschool. It was a, you know, we're Jewish, but we're not Jewish, but we used to call, it, it was a temple. So I used to call it the Jew school and they were they hated it when I called it the Jew school. And I was like, hey, everybody, we're having a good day at the Jew school. And I was like, don't call it the Jew school. I'm like, well, this is where we are. Yeah. You know, but there was a kid in Jacob's class who was around two and a half, three.

And he just wasn't that verbal. But physically, he was a dominant. And that, you know, people develop at different ages. But the mom was so harped on it. She was like, what do you think? I'm like, you know, if he's 14 and doesn't speak the English, I would call somebody. Right. he's two and a half he still sticks his finger in his asshole you know what i mean like give him a

fucking break you know what i mean like what are we talking about yeah he's two and a half i get so wrapped up yeah don't get wrapped up in that stuff and not like that when people if you think to yourself i'm not ready or i'm not sure if i'm ready or i'm not sure if i'm ready nobody's ever ready right when people ask me do you think i'm ready to have a kid it's like asking me and you think i'm ready to go to prison i don't know i've never been there before you've never been there either like that's the same thing. It's, it's an experience

you can't describe to other people. So like, but I would get all the fun stuff you want to do out before March. Yeah.

I feel like, you know, I feel like I do, I'm more of a home body. So it's not like, you know, everybody's always like, oh,

will, you know, your lifestyle is going to change a whole lot. And we'll talk about like stuff with buss in or you get to do all these things.

And I don't know, man. I guess I'll, I guess I'll find out when that happens. You will, this is the craziest thing. If I told you three years ago, there's going to be a human being who probably is going to shit on your fingers and pee in your mouth.

That's not what I'm not stoked about that. You're like, I'm, that's not going to happen. But there's something cute about it. You're different though, bro. You're the first time. I think we've identified you like some weird shit. The first time Jacob peed on my face, it was so funny. Because you take off his diaper and then the pee just comes straight at your face.

I was just like, I'm so glad my mom. mouth was closed. You know what I mean? I've paid for that before. Yeah. The thing, you know, the thing is, it's like. Craigs is, man. The thing is that, like, you're, you're like, that's so funny that that human just peed

on my face. But it is. It's just something that you, for whatever reason, now it's cute. Yeah. Yeah, you're not really, you're like, yeah, I'm not sure I buy that. Yeah, my buddy, one of my boys sent me a photo and he had like shit on his arm. He's like, oh, you got this to look forward to. And it's, we'll find out, man, I'm buckled in.

Yeah. What are you looking forward to the most? Do you know? Did you say if it was a boy or girl? Girl. Girl. Baby girl, dude. What I'm looking forward to the most?

I don't know. You know, since obviously I'm not a father yet, like I don't know what there is to look forward to outside of the stuff that people already know about, like their first steps or when they get old enough to start having a little bit of a personality, like in between one and two, all that kind of stuff. but I'm not sure. Those first couple months, I'm not going to lie to you.

That's what everybody says. They're boring. You're like, just keeping the kid alive. Yeah, people are like, it's the miracle of life. I'm like, well,

the miracle of life is boring is shit. You know what I mean? This is all he's good. This is it? Yeah. This is the whole game plan? Right. That first day you walk in

and they recognize you and smile. Yeah, that's what Taylor says. I'm in. Yeah. I am a hundred percent in. Like, but keeping them alive is,

that's basically, what you're doing. Right. For a little bit. Right. And a lot of people talk about the experience when you're first holding them. So I'm looking forward to that. But I'm trying not to hype it up too much because then, you know, then it gets that. I'm like, well, this is it? Is it? Yeah. Yeah. Right. You know what was weird for me the first time. So I was getting Jacob out of his car seat and he had poop around his neck and under his ears. I was like, this is when I was like, do I not know where your butthole is? Like how? How? Yeah. I broke him already. So I don't know if this, it didn't happen with my daughter, but from what I understand, it does happen with boys. When they're sitting, the poop is so explosive, it goes up their back. So he shot up.

And I was like, oh, I don't know what I'm doing. I called my mom. I'm like, he's shit on his neck. Yeah, she was like, yeah, sometimes when they're sitting there, it's coming out so hard in their buttholes, it shoots it straight up. shoots it straight up. By the way, I got to tell you something, I've always wanted to shit up. I'm like, that is a great skill to have.

Like, you know what I mean? And this dude's nailing it two months in. He's nailing it two months in, man. But I will tell you this is my best piece of advice for you. Don't sweat the small shit. Don't sweat the small shit, especially when they get older. You can't correct them. every time they do something wrong because that's all they do is something wrong.

Pick your battles. You don't want to be the person who's always saying that they're doing something wrong. Don't do that, man. Enjoy it. Pick your battles, what you want to fight for, and then remember that they watch you. They're not listening. Your dad ever give you those long speeches? Were they sitting and lecturing you?

Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember one of them? No, not really. But do you remember watching him do things? Do you remember seeing him? That's the thing. They're sponges.

So don't think they're picking up what you say to them when you're teaching them lessons. They're watching you. So if you're an asshole to your wife and they're watching it, that's what they're picking up. Not you saying you got to be respectful because they're like, well, I just watched that. Remember that they're watching all the time, even at a very young age. Besides that, good luck. I appreciate that, man. Good luck and don't give up on the edibles.

You're going to eat them. Yeah, people are like, you got to stop doing drugs. Nope, need more. No, yeah, need them more. Need them more. You, that's a bad game plan on your life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I appreciate that.

Yeah, man. I am excited. I think it's going to, it's going to be dope and it's, you know, having a baby girl will be, be interesting. Do you know, do you know? We want to have three. Three? Yeah.

You want to be outnumbered. Yeah, I didn't think of it like that, but yeah, essentially. You have brothers and sisters? Two brothers. Older or younger? Both young. Oh, so you were the asshole. I'm the big dog.

You did the shit to them. What's the worst thing? Yeah, but the middle one was the asshole. What's the worst thing you did? Yeah, but I'm the youngest of four boys. You know, they, let me tell you something. They used to put me in those fold-up couches and put me back in and put it back. Oh, yeah, I learned how to breathe like a prisoner, real, like real young.

Like, you could put me in a trunk right now. I'd be comfortable. My oldest brother, he, like, he was the worst. He used to like to scare me, right? Because I jazz hand when I scare it. And I make this noise. Ha! Right?

And that's their fault because they peeped me. So, but he, after a while, that noise wasn't enough. So he would punch me in the chest after he scared me. So it sounded like this. Ha! And he loved that. He was like, you sound like a donkey. Oh!

Oh! So I know you did some shit to your young brothers. Probably the worst thing I did. Maybe it's not the worst, but the worst thing I can think of right now. It was 4th of July, and I was kind of riffing off the, you know how you hold your ear up to a seashell and you can hear the ocean. Yeah. I was telling Cody, we had this, what were they called the little, the kids basketball goals? What brand are those things called?

No, not nerve. Little Tyke. It was like a little tight where it had the yellow, the white backboard, the red rim, the yellow like shaft. And so I had the yellow. Two shafts. I know, two shafts. I had the yellow shaft. I had the yellow shaft, dude.

By the way. I mean, by itself. Yeah, you took the goal apart. Neither long nor basketball hoop needs to be described with shaft. Shaft, I know.

I don't know why that's my word today. Shaft is the word today. But I take that apart and I just have the yellow shaft. I just have the shaft. Now tell him, hey, you put your ear up to this. You can hear.

I forget what I told him. I'm like, oh, you can hear stuff. And I lit like an M90, like fireworks. Addy put his ears up to that. And I close it in and it went off and,

you know, he cries and runs inside. and get my ass whoop, dude. But I love how you're like, I don't know if this is bad. This might be, I don't know. My brother can't hear anymore, but is that bad? Yeah, yeah. I'm saying some stuff could have been worse.

Like, Wyatt the youngest, Wyatt was six years younger than us. And Cody and I were like 18 months apart, so we're like a year apart. And he was, so six, it's too young for you to beat up too much. Well, maybe not. Okay.

I'm done off right now because I hear these motherfuckers laughing, and talking about, oh, 18 months. It's like a year. Grades. We were a year apart in grades. 18 months is like a year. I mean, it's not an Irish twin.

Appreciate that, man. I need that. I need that win. Yeah. But Wyatt would come in with like a Sibby Cup and stuff and Cody and I would just essentially bully him out all the time. He blames us for the reason he quit skateboarding because he wanted to like skateboarding. We like made fun of him for being a skateboarder. And reading.

And reading, bro. I know brutal. Wait a second. You teased him out of reading? Yeah, we're like, you know, why you read nerd? Oh, Lee, man. I know. Me telling the story, I feel so bad, bro.

Because we literally did that. What's his name? Wyatt. Wyatt's like, I never learned to read because of you guys. I'm telling you, you know, Wyatt brings it up all the time. Yeah, Will, Will and Cody bully me out of reading and skateboarding. Whoa. Yeah, one probably worse than the other.

Yeah, for sure. That's hilarious. And me saying it out loud right now, I'm like, man, I was an asshole. Like, that's such an asshole move. That's a terrible older brother move, man. It's older brother stuff, man. You know, my older brother. Because I can't read.

I'm just bullying them. Yeah, you're like, were you reading nerd? Push him down. Yeah. Did you ever do the ABCs? Were you sitting on a chest? Like, do the ABCs? No, no, no, no.

You know the ABCs, man. Did you ever do the ABCs? ABCs like where you would sit on his chest and you would pin his arms down and you would punch. Oh, yeah. You would punch him in the chest. And so right in the sternum. Yeah.

So my brother would do ABCs of fruit. And I'm like, there's no fruit that starts with Z. He's like, I guess you're fucked that. I'm like, I guess you're fucked. That's not how this is supposed to work. But he would do ABCs and animals. And if you, and if you pause for too long, he'd start over. This dude, he was relentless.

Oh, I saw one night, I had a friend over. This friend, my buddy's name was Gary Miles. And Gary was my buddy, man. But not the biggest dude. And so my oldest brother was babysitting. And I guess he was probably 15. And my brother above me was probably 12. And Gary and I were probably 10.

And so my oldest brother, even if he was babysitting, he was torturing the brother above him, just hitting him and just completely fucking. And so my brother snapped. And he runs in the kitchen, he brings back a knife. Jesus, man. Big all night. And he goes, you do, you touch me. Fucking test me again. I'll stab you.

Touch me again. I'll stab you. And I'm sitting there like this. Gary's sitting there like this. And my oldest brother grabbed Gary and put him right in front of him. He goes, fucking stab me. I don't care. Go ahead and stab me.

And Gary's like, no stab me. Don't stab me. And he was like, I dare you to stab Gary. And my brother's like, I'll fucking stab him. And I'm like, what is going on? Everyone's just yelling. You know, Gary Miles never came back to my house. He was like, I'm out on your house.

It was three older brothers. It got, you know, three boys in the house. Oh, yeah. Bananas. Yes. There shit happens like that where you look back and you're like, what are we doing? Exactly. And we were like a wrestling family, all the sports.

Cody was a wrestler. So we were like, it's funny, we would like make brackets and we would have wrestling tournaments. And Cody and I would be on one side of the bracket. And Wyatt essentially had to be the opponent for us all the way until Cody and I got to the championship. So we would just be tossing why it for like 64 man bracket That's hilarious Oh bro I'm like 12 so why it's six Oh my God

We used to play a game in our basement And the basement was concrete obviously Called slow mo football Or you moved in slow. Never happens that way Well my brother always went fast mo when he wanted to get you to the ground Like if you were like trying to struggle And he just go

Blam And you were like Oh that's fat Looking back at it Makes me laugh That we were screaming That's fast mobe That's fast mode

That's all With We would also turn out the lights In the basement And he's grabbed two darts Oh And we You'd go

Ready go And you could just hear And you could just hear And it would It would land And something He'd be like I fucking heard that one

That was so close to me Somebody got hit One time my brother got hit oh my oldest brother which was a bad oh you heard him you heard a thunk

and nothing you just heard turn on the fucking light and we were all like oh we turn on light and there's big bro dart to the chest

yeah and now here's the good news just in case somebody got hit everybody had different colored darts so he knew who hit him and we I was just like oh I'm so glad that's not my color

I was like dude this is This is a win for me because my oldest brother gets with a dart. And then I get to see one of my other older brothers get the shit beat out of him because he just hit one with a dart. It was a good. It was a definitely. It's like the worst. The older brother, he wants to play the game, but he's going to beat your ass if he gets got it.

Like you know, nobody wanted to hit big brother. But he wanted to play because he threw it the hardest. When he threw it, you could hear it in the air. It was. And my dad had put up wood in the basement. So there was wood on the walls. You could just hear that. Yeah, dude.

He would stand up because I was probably eight at the time when we were playing this. So he was 14. Nobody else had gone through puberty yet. So he was humming missiles. And you could just hear him. Boom. I was always hiding behind the couch like, oh, my God. Like I'm too young.

I'm like, this is going to go through me. They're going to throw it. It's going to go through my body. I just wondering, why do I have to play this game? Yeah. Well, there's a bunch of games. I was like, why do I have to play? And they were like, come on, you're playing.

I'm like, this sounds real bad for me. Yeah, this sounds real bad for me. Dude, for the July, we would have like, we would, we would just pour gas out, light it on fire, and then you just throw, you would undo all the sparklers. Wait, bottle. Where, though? Pour the gas, where?

Like out in, like, a gravel, like out in, like a gravel street or something like that. Like the driveway out behind that, you know, the alleys full of gravel. We pour gasoline all over. We'd take apart all the sparklers and, like, roaming candles and stuff like that. And you would just throw all the fireworks in there and you'd run and, like, have a shield and stuff like that. A shield. Yeah, essentially. Yeah.

We did that. That's what. Trash can lids we used were fun during snowball fights. We, because you live, you grew up in Nebraska. Grew up in Missouri, but I went to Nebraska, too. So, yeah. So, yes. Yeah.

Snowball fights for me. And did you ever hide and throw them at cars? Oh, yeah. Did you have a car, ever have a car chase you? No, never had that. Oh. Oh, yeah, dude. When that car puts a brake light on and you're 12, you're like, uh-oh.

Yeah. Yeah, I was like 16. Oh, yeah, you were a little too old, probably. It'd be. Yeah, I wish they had gone here. This is the snowstorm last year. There was a lot of us. Where'd you grow up?

Here. They were throwing eggs, though, not snowballs. Well, we did that too. Oh, like hit a cop car. This isn't about me. This is about them. I'm knowing there was one. You were throwing eggs, though, bro.

Hey, hey, snow. If an egg hits my car, I think I'm madder than if snow hits my car. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 100% snow it's snow I've been hit

with an egg had an outdoor show I get hit with an egg in an outdoor show I get hit with an egg at the performers no

like and again I'm I'm not if it had happened a bunch I'd have been mad

but the fact that I have a story that I get with an egg on stage yeah I don't care Like anything that happens one time, like the kilt, that's cool ones. You know, I've had people throw up at my shows and try to stay at my shows, so throw up in a, in margarita glasses. This is serious.

I had this woman in the front row. I've had this dude finger banging his girl in the front row like this will. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. What kind of show is he running? So people know that weird is okay. But this was pre the talk of weird.

I was in Cleveland. and this guy was from, if the stage is back where those dudes are, the back of the bus, his table's here. There's one table in front of him. It's spaced out a little bit. And he and his girl are sitting here, round table, other couple behind him. I'm sorry about that.

He's not hiding the dittle. Like, it's not like, he looked like a DJ scratching a record. Like, that's how far away he was. And I was just like, and he was staring at me when he was doing it, which is some prison shit. I'm like, I don't need you staring at me. Was he laughing at your jokes, too? He was not, which is why he ended up getting kicked out.

I told him, I go, I said, I don't care if you finger your girlfriend, but you're going to enjoy the show. No, he got kicked out because he ended up talking at the table. And I told him on the way out. I go, listen, man, I didn't bother you when you were fingering your girlfriend, but you can't talk at the table because that's too far. And everyone was like, and I, when he got thrown out? That's the line? Well, because finger and your girlfriend is a victimless crime. you know what I mean

you're not bothering anybody well you were bothering the other people at the table the woman the other the woman who sat at the table was like this was the grossest thing I've ever sat next to the guy who was sitting next to her girl

I can't believe I didn't have to pay more for this ticket but uh yeah um that I like I don't want people doing it at every show I don't want to the dick at every show but I like something a little different

I'm all I'm on board for it okay what are you're on brum bringing on December 15th. I don't know, man. Sounds like I got to come correct. Should be surrounded. What's everybody,

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I haven't gotten to see. What's his, what's Larry's actual name? Dan. Dan, I haven't gotten to see Dan live. You haven't? No, man. I've messaged with him trying to get him on the pod. If he's...

You're talking about coming on if he comes to Nashville. He's a really good dude. Yeah. I would love to have him on. He's a huge Husker fan. The biggest. Oh, yeah. Our player, our, like, player entertainment room was by him.

Dude, ponying up some cash for the boys. His box is, like, crazy. I've been to see, I'd never been to a game. I think I told you this with the balloons. I was not expecting that. And. Because you went and saw Sue. Yeah.

Or you saw Sue being at the game. Yeah, that was down on the sideline, watching that told you, watching that around was like, I'd never seen a human pick up other humans. Yeah. With one hand. Like that double team and he would just kind of pick everybody. Bro, Sue. Sue one time, we were at a Saturday scrimmage.

We had this offensive guard, Ricky Henry. badass dude like you didn't you didn't really mess with Ricky he was a wrestler in high school like just an old-fashioned like you know country strong type of dude and he must have held sue or something but we're running a Saturday scrimmage and our coaches we're talking coach polini his staff they're real like you know holding up rules and holding everybody accountable and you know yelling and all this stuff sue man Ricky held sue or something and sue hits this man in the back of the head as he turns around and starts going back to the huddle,

Bob drops him right there in Memorial on a Saturday and everyone stops and it's quiet. Ricky's like down, knocked out. And they move the ball up, you know, hey, move it up 10 yards to go on to the next play. Ricky ends up getting up. Nobody says a word to sue, bro. What are you going to say to him? What's it like to be? I know.

What are you going to say? Well, bro, this dude was face down like a family guy moment or something, where he's just laying on a stomach. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm just like to play. So you're with the best athletes and you're also clearly the best athlete amongst, is that something that you all are aware of?

You're like, that dude is just another level even from us. Oh, yeah. Yeah, 100%. Like even in the pros, right, where you're like, we're the best of the best. We are the 1% of the 1% and that dude is still the 1% of the 3% are 1%. Yeah. Like Derek Henry seems like that type of dude also. Yeah, I mean, in person, that dude is a monster.

You know what I mean? Like some people look bigger on TV than they do in person. Derek is like, oh, that's an NFL player. I remember the first time I saw Calvin Johnson. I was like, oh, that's an NFL player. Megatron. For, yeah, the first time. Cam Newton pregame.

When we were in Carolina, he was out warming up. It's like, oh, that's a fucking NFL player. I felt that way, honestly, standing next to Grong. Yeah, he's a big dude. But he, I was looking at him, I'm like, this looks like, this dude looks like he'd be about this big without the weights. Right. Like, one of those dudes who's just massive.

Yeah. He was at, we were doing a Playboy golf tournament. How was that? Weird. there was a no cell phone room. So you weren't allowed to bring your cell phone on the course. Yeah, it was an interesting 18. I'll tell you that.

But it was, yeah, there was this one woman, she would put a tea in her butthole and let you hit off of her butthole. Hit the, you know, tea off of the butthole. And by the way, I've done that before. It's nerve wracking. You've been the one laying down. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. the tea in the asshole. Yeah, yeah, with one of those long drive guys.

Yeah. At the Ortiz golf tournament. This dude, it hit a ball 380 yards out of my asshole. It's kind of crazy. He just laying down there laughing like that too. Yeah, dude, it made me laugh. He was like, you turn over. I'm in, we're not doing it out of the dick, but we'll do it out of the asshole. Yeah. And by way, not in the butthole, just clenched in there. Like, I'm not putting the golf tea in my butthole. You got to put it in there. Not again anyway. You got to put it in there a little bit. You know what I mean? I mean, just, you know, to rest it. Right. No, it's between the cheeks, bro.

You're clinching it too, right? Yeah, it's between my cheeks. It's not in the hole. It's between the cheeks. Okay, so it's not breaking seal. Right. It's not breaking the seal. No.

Okay. That's what I'm picturing. No. No, yeah. Let me drive this. Put that tea in a little further. No, I'm good. Yeah.

But what's his name? Trevor. Trevor, I'm, I'm forgetting your last name. Con. Con something. Long drive. Yeah. There might be a video of him hitting a,

a ball in my... Nice pool, Alex. Nice. And so this dude, this dude will out drive you with his putter, by the way, which is really humiliate. He'll put it 280,

300. You think so? 280, 300 down the middle of the fairway with the putter. It's crazy. But, um... My guys are good. This, uh,

this Playboy Bunny, who liked to let people do that. Some dude missed. And just, hit her left cheek with a driver. Mm. Hard.

Because you know he wanted to show off in front of her. And just the noise it made and then the ball just rolled off. She made this nice. Her... Didn't even affect her like that.

She just took it. She ate it. Her ass cheek by the end because I was like, I got to go back and see. Her ass cheek by the end, dude, was... Oh, it was so blue

and swollen. And swollen. She was trying to laugh it off. Yeah, no, it's good. It's happened before. I'm like, no. Yeah, not that bad. Here he is.

He also can swing a stick, dude. Yeah. It's from the Ortiz. It would have been at the Ortiz golf classic. He and I have done a bunch of times together. We met at the Larry the cable guy one, too. This dude, legit. Real deal.

Legit can just crush him. And it's embarrassing to be outdriven with a punch. You know what I mean? Yeah, but if that's what he's built for, you know. Yeah, that's true. Like, well, he's the best. Yeah, that's true. I'm, golf is not my, I think it's six holes too long.

I would agree with that. I would agree with you there. If it was 12 holes, I'd be out there. But who, what? Five hours? Fuck you. Right. Five hours?

Yeah, this is what he did, but it wasn't me. Look at that swing. Yeah, dude. That, he'd get, he lived. lifts up. A lot of torque, a lot of club. Yeah.

Just start talking. Yeah, a lot of shaft. A lot of shaft. A lot of shaft. This dude's all shaft is what I understand. But I agree with you because I'm like, I want to play scramble. Like, I don't want to hit my own ball the whole time. Like, I'm not that good.

And it's not that fun to do five hours of that. Right. Like, I'll drive over here and hit my ball. I'll wait on you to hit your ball. Like, I'm trying to be in the same cart. Yeah. I'm trying to get some, some beer. goings, a cigar, some music.

Yeah. Not take it so seriously. Dude, I play preferred lie, which means if I don't prefer for my ball to lie there, I pick it up and I put it somewhere else. Yes. A lot of times I play preferred lie and I'm like, I don't prefer it here. I'm going to put it on the green. This is where I prefer it.

My dad hates it. Yeah, I just want to hit it from here. Yeah, yeah. He's like, that's not the rules. I'm like, in this card it is. Right. That's why people have always, when they ask me, you live in Tennessee, I'm like, yeah. Like, is weed legal there?

I'm like, at my house it is. At my house Yeah, my house It's real legal It's always been legal Yeah Also I've said since I've been here

Getting arrested for weed in Tennessee Would be the best thing that ever happened to my career Come get me Every time I smoke weed live online I'm like come get me everybody Boo, you know where I live Why would that be the best thing that happened to your career Just good price

It'd be funny I'd make good jokes out of it I'd get a lot of stories from jail Oh shit By the way You know my son and I started a podcast together. Oh, really?

What's it called? Hey, man. Because I say that a lot and I say, hey man. And he, when we call each other, we go, hey, man. Hey, man. And so, but he told me the story in this lot, I'm dropping it all today. We have eight episodes. He went to that fucking Astro World concert.

Oh, shit, the one where people are dying. Oh, told me the whole story. If his girlfriend, at the time they said, because they were up against the barricade, they got there early to get up against the barricade. against the barricade. That was the good spot. And she had bruises around her body from just being smushed. Yo, Jacob told me this story about this girl. And so everyone's smushed like this. He's six three. Yeah. He's not tiny. He was lifted off the ground with his feet just like this, being moved around. He said, you know, he was looking around trying to find, and his girlfriend was pushed up against

the barricade. And he looked at one point to his left and saw this girl who had, when Travis came on stage, had thrown her hands up in the air to cheer. Well, she got smushed. So now her hands are stuck like this. And so, and she's being, Jacob said, it's like a boat, it was like watching a boa constrictor. Because every time she let out a breath, the crowd just closed. Right? That's why people pass out, because you can't breathe in anymore. And he said he just slowly saw her starting to just fall. Just go under it. And he was like, the problem is, if you went down, you were down.

Like, if you went down to get somebody, there was no, you weren't getting up because they were closing the gap. And he said, what the fuck? He said, two guys just reached down and lifted her back up. But he said there were times where like, you were being moved and you could see people underneath you and you couldn't help. Fucking crazy. But the story he tells on the podcast is like, what made him want to go he loves Travis Scott yeah but isn't that what he isn't that like not like that and for real because some people say he like uh he but that's condones that stuff

like he's like we want it to be crazy i think that's yeah he he wants that energy right that was what bringing those the younger crowd and that was what he was known for and and he'd been arrested on stage before in Vegas right or something like that where he had told people to break down a barricade. He got arrested for an inciting a riot. But that's good for his, who am I? That's good for his. But there's only one way for that to end when you just keep pushing.

Yeah. And so, but he loved the music. Loved the music. Was he thinking about that, though, going into the concert? He knew. He was going to be wild. Well, this is what. So, Travis Scott, they rush, and his girlfriend said right to him, we got to go right now.

And he was like, you're right. And so they had her, she needed a security guard to reach in and pull her over because she was smushed. And same with him. But, and he said that they just helped, they were helping pull people out. And some people, I was like, why couldn't they just get over the fence? And he was like, Dad. You're smushed from all sides. You're completely, there's no lifting yourself up over the fence.

There's too much, there's thousands of people of body pressure on you. I can't even imagine it. I can't even fucking imagine but you're like helpless he was like they both had like legit nightmares

for he had a night he was like I've been waking up seeing faces for a week wow bananas because you like to think like you would just start bodying people around

but it's just too many people yeah it seems like there's just nothing you can do imagine being on the ground like on your back like y'all about to go that's the crazy thing, dude. Like in war. Right.

You just get trampled. A hundred percent helpless. Even like, dude, I'm, you're a grown man. I'm sure you've never walked into a crowd and been like, I'm going to be okay. But you would be picked up and moved. If your feet got off the ground, that was it. Bananas. But to hear, yeah, dude.

To hear him talk about it was like, I couldn't believe he texted me the next morning. I went to sleep before at all. I'm so glad he, I didn't hear about it that night. Right. Because they get a text the next morning, he would have just been like, yo, he saw somebody get shot in Cleveland.

He came to visit me at a show. Yeah. And we were up in the hotel room. And I know he gets high, he knows I get high, but we don't get high to yet. He's a grown person who's allowed to do whatever. he wants. I'm just not going to get out. And so we were high in the room. And there was a cassidia place right across under the window, right below our window across the alley in Cleveland.

And I was like, go get us some casadias. He was like, hey, so he goes out and get some cassidias. In about five minutes, I hear, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, and if you've heard gunshots, you know the difference between a gunshot and a car back back. Right. I'm like, these are gunshots. And it's right where he was. Like the gunshot sounds right underneath the window where it was the longest walk to a window. Because I'm like, I got to look. I got a look. And I pulled back the shade and there was a body in the alley, not his.

And I called. I go, hey. He goes, yeah. I go, you okay? He goes, I just saw someone get shot. And I go, dude, come back up here. And he goes, why? I go, somebody just got shot.

He goes, yeah, but. they're not going to come back and shoot him again right and I go I don't think so he goes yeah I'm waiting for the food I go you hi motherfucker I've got I've got to secure this food he goes yeah everybody else ran so the owner of the place that I could have everybody's food he goes I'm bringing up four full bags I'm like yeah wait around bring up the four bags but it was crazy but he was so nervous that night he said to me he just growing dude he was 18 19 maybe he goes you mind if i lay in the bed with you i'm like not come on but he was like i can't believe i saw something shot but crazy dude like that dude is

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we threw a party at the house. And he goes, can I show a slide? Show. And I'm like, yeah, of course. I want to show you guys, you know, my friends and where we were. I'm like, that sounds great, dude. So he puts this slideshow together. And I go, you know what?

It was about 15 minutes before the party. I go, let me just take a look at the slideshow so I know what the feel of it is. So I get the vibe where we want to play it in the party. Because there's people from age 6 to 80. So the first is like him on the plane and him landing in Afghanistan and him and his bunk and his buddies. And then it just cuts to a video. And there's just these Afghanis walking near a dry riverbed.

And then there's a carpet bomb. And then there's no more people. And I press stop. I go, dude. We can't show that. He goes, why not? I go, that's actual death, right? He goes, yeah, but no blood.

No, that's not the line. I know the line is not blood. The line, let's call the line death. You can't show death. But nobody knows. I go, yeah, everybody knows. Nobody knows they were there at the bomb. Now they're not there.

Yeah. He was like, is that too far? He goes, yeah, you don't want to see the rest. I go, yeah, no, I don't see the rest. You don't want to see the rest. But it was so he had just been desensitized to what it was. And he thought the line was, well, it's not gory. So let's just show it.

I'm like, this is not. It's a six-year-old out there. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's a six, yeah. Now, I'm sure that a couple of my brothers would have been like, that was awesome. Yeah. But we're not showing that.

at the welcome home party. Right. That's so funny. Do you guys know Josh is a big Titans fan? Yeah. We were texting yesterday during the game. Yeah, I'm from Massachusetts.

So I texted him. So you're not a Titans fan. Yeah, not a Titans fan. I thought he was. Will, what the fuck? I thought he was the way he was texting me. I just texted. We should have watched this game together.

I'm not sure if you read that. You read that the wrong way. That is what he said. Hey, hey, and that is what I believe. I got to tell you, this might have been, this is going to sound real arrogant and New England alike. But the last couple years with Brady up there, we're boring for me.

This has been my favorite Patriots year in a long time. Why is that just because of it without Brady? It's exciting. It's exciting. I feel like, like, this has one of the, got to be one of the hoodie's best years. don't coming in you know they're in first place

the bill the with the bills team the Patriots are in first place with Mac Jones like this has got to be first coaching besides that first Super Bowl right up near the top and it's exciting for fans

because coming in I did not think this was going to be the team and who I never knew if Mac Jones was good or if he just had the two best wide receivers in college football ball that were just wide open every time I'm just going to throw this in the air and you're

going to run under right surrounded by an Alabama team right so I had no idea I knew if hoodie is drafted some dude in the front first round his quarterback he likes him he likes maybe he just didn't like cam that much but one of the two and so to see him right now playing the way he's playing and they got their running game this reminds me of that first Super Bowl team with a defense defense and they're going to run the ball and they're just not going to let mac jones throw interceptions right right they're not going to make a lot of mistakes they are good for sure granted yesterday was you guys beat a very watered down Titans team 100% boys got to get healthy and tanny hill is not right erin rogers you can't just throw any receiver out there and he's

just going to be like yeah i can make this work with him right right he nothing against him dude but he needs a little bit of help like the majority of the majority of the receiver majority of quarterbacks. Like the majority of quarter. There's like three that don't, right? And so to take every weapon away, like not just one, but everyone is got to be just brutal. Right. No question.

I mean, you're playing with backups everywhere. Like, how many guys do we have out? 17 on IR, right? Right. We hold the new record. Yeah, we hold the new record for turnover with different guys on the active roster, right? Of 84? Where are we at 85 now?

But yeah, bro. I mean, they just got to get healthy. But it's been interesting for sure just since Derek's gotten injured. And then they've had, you know, you have Julio, you have A.J. You have guys on defense, both starting backers on defense. Like, you know, you just have a lot of injuries right now. Outside of Derek Henry, who do you think is the biggest loss for that team that's on the IR right now? Offense or defense?

Yeah. I guess I would say defense. Man, what you think? David Long? Has to be. That's a... It has to be. It's wild to say after a year, but...

I know. You'd think David Long, probably on defense? It's noticeable now. He's just fast enough to get to the edge. Yeah. Which is huge. And Bud hadn't been playing either, right? I mean, Bud Dupree.

He's a big loss. What he did when he was playing? Yeah. That defensive line was... Right, right. When you got all those dudes working, Jeff Simmons, Autry, Harold Landry, Bud Dupree, going to getting after the quarterback,

like the team is definitely, they need a pass rush for sure. Because when they have a pass rush, it's not like their past defense is all pro, but they're very opportunistic around the ball. And you only get opportunistic when you have all that pressure in your face. How many are going to be back healthy for the playoffs? And do they have enough cushion to make into the playoffs for sure? I think so. I personally think so.

I think with the rest of their schedule, they definitely have that cushion. I think all the guys will be back by playoffs. I think Derek can reincluded. Because he broke his foot, and he didn't, like, fully break his foot either. Now, it's not like a compounded, like a compound fracture. Like, he had a very tough, like, stress fracture, big hairline fracture. He had to get a couple screws put in and stuff like that, but it's not like it's a terrible broken bone. And those things take, like, I don't even want to say six to ten weeks, but more like an eight to ten week injury.

Oh, this schedule seems kind of nice. Right. The only tough part is. is the Niners have been playing well, and so have the Dolphins. Hey, the Niners have been starting to play a good ball, too. So it's going to get, I think it'll get interesting for them. And then obviously, you'll play the Texans again for their last regular season game. But I think they'll be getting that revenge game in.

I love how people are sleeping on the Niners. Me too. Because. The Bloss is a Niners guy. Because a year and a half ago, or two years ago, they were in the Super Bowl. Right. And so, like, Jimmy J's back. playing better.

That's a good team, man. Their running game is legit. And running games travel. You know, that's why when Derek Henry's playing, I'm like, yeah, you got a good defense in that dude. Right. In December? Let's go.

Right. Let's go. Has Julio John's not been healthy the whole year? Pretty much. I mean, he's been pretty, it's been his hamstring, too, but he's been out a lot. I'd say the biggest loss on offense is, what, AJ, outside of Derek? Got it. Yeah.

AJ are just having a healthy old line weekend and week out because we're usually missing somebody. I got to tell you, man, I can't imagine playing on either side, either offensive line or defense aligned and ramming my head into some other dude and then being like, I've got to do that again 30 seconds from now.

Damn it. Like, that's it. The first thing I'm going to do is ram my head into this other dude's. Right. I mean, you're 150 pounds? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That doesn't make it. Yeah, yeah. Good point, yeah. You look like a little giant out there, like geared up and everything.

But you're telling me, I would run across the top of that. Yeah, 150. I wonder what the lightest dude to ever play professional footballers. Outside of a kicker. So outside of like a special team's like kicker punter? Can't be kicker like one of those martin. grammatica. I mean, you have to look at guys like Tyree Kill and stuff, right? But he's got to be

175. He's jacked. How big was that one you think? 1,85? Who? What about Danny Amandola? I think Tyreeks smaller than that. Oh, is Brandon Banks? Yeah, this is saying, I just googled the latest NFL

player all the time. They're saying Brandon Banks at 149 times. Originally coming into the NFL at 149 pounds. So, Brandon Banks was the lightest active player in the league. I say this every week. Every week. I can't imagine getting hit. First of all, the fact, I would be padded up.

The fact that nobody's got any shin pads on. Every time I see someone get hit on, what's going on? That looks like that hurts a lot. Josh would have the knee pads that sag over the kneecaps. I would have the neck roll. Yeah. I'd have the old school Steve Grogan neck roll. I'd have soccer shin pads on.

Are you kidding? Like when I see, because Derek Henry, everyone's going like a missile into his legs, right? Oh, you have to. This dude's got no pads from knee down. From knee, how does that not, you're taking a helmet to the shins, right? Yeah, but I don't think guys get smoked in the shins a whole lot,

like with a helmet. No? Because guys aren't just diving head first. Okay, we'll call it a shoulder pad at 20 miles an hour. I mean, I don't know. It's round down. Yeah, I mean, Okay, fine.

250 pounds, moving 20 miles an hour, hitting me with a shoulder pad. You got to think if your leg, if your cleat is in the ground and you take a shoulder pad to the shin, you're probably going to damage your knee and not really your shin. You know what I mean? And then if your leg is off the ground, it hits. It's just going with. Yeah, that probably doesn't hurt. Yeah.

I mean, tell me the hardest you've ever been hit on a football film. The hardest I've ever been hit? Yeah. What did you say? He said, shit last week. The hardest, I would say, where I looked the worst, was against Roger Saffold. Oh, you know what? Outside of, like, getting blindsided and, like, getting the air knocked out of me or something like that,

probably against the New Orleans Saints. I posted a video on this like a year ago, too. I'm going against the New Orleans Saints when I was on the Washington Redskins. I was taking off and tried just throwing my body into this dude. and I mean I went stiff Like taking a metal bat against a pole dude I'm talking I went stiff And I even tried getting up

Because as he hit me And I went like You know I went stiff and I was down He's like night night Huh? Did he say night night? Oh he said he goes So I was running right

Oh And I tried I tried taking off and lunging into this dude Yeah And obviously he smokes me And the dude's like over 300 pounds Just built like a brick shit house And I'm like

You know I like go stiff and down to the ground and he's like night night motherfucker you know that's some gangster shit I know dude I tried getting up to like talk shit but I got up and it was like I was like Bambi dude like a new deer coming out of the womb I started stumbling everywhere and everybody's like hey go down go down I just could even keep my shit together all right let me I can ask you a couple questions that was probably the hardest like I felt like yeah you know running into a body okay a couple questions what is worse afterwards from people teasing you in the locker room.

Going Bambi or stand down? Like what are they going to tease you about more? If they're going to tease you about looking like Bambi because they know that you've gotten up and you were like trying at least so they know it's all kind of like fair game. But if you were just laying there like you know when Taylor went out,

I don't think anybody's like joking, hey this man's out. This is just laying knocked out. And is night night motherfucker one of the best shit talkings you've heard? It's concise and to the point You know exactly what night night Motherfucker says it all As the play is happening Yeah

Now I'm going to ask you another question Because this What's your best night night motherfucker? Like what is the best You've hit somebody And have you ever had a shit talk moment That even rivals Night Night Motherfucker?

No Have you heard anybody say anything better Than Night Night Motherfucker? Not really. None that are so cut and dry Like he did get me. You know what I mean? Like one time I broke a pass up,

I've told this on the pop before from Greg Olson. And he's like, what are you like third string? But I broke up the pass. It was PVU. I'm doing the incomplete signal, man. Wait, do people talk shit about what string you are on the field?

There's an example right there. No, wait. I broke up the pass over the middle, and I like did the incomplete thing right in front of him. Yeah. And I webbed him like Spider-Man. There's some backstory there. But he goes,

he goes, what the fuck are you? What are you? Like third string? who are you? Yeah. I was like, hey, man, I work for this spot. Yeah, you're like, you know who I am? Yeah.

I'm the dude who just broke up that past. Myp-b-bip. Looking down, just webbing. Yeah, dude. That was your move? Yeah. Every time. Actually, matter of fact, I'm going to start doing that if a joke works.

I'm just going to fucking, I'm going to start webbing. Just start. Got them. They all start laughing and just start webbing the shit out. That, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that. But, um, but. But as far as, like, hitting somebody, maybe who's the little wide receiver for Buffalo? Cole Beasley?

No, it wasn't Beasley. This was back in probably 2016. He played for the Patriots. White dude, Wes Welker? Not West Welker. It's Hogan? I think it was Hogan. Oh, yeah.

I hit him once pretty good on third and short. But not a lot of, like, big splash where I'm knocking people out. Tell me one other question. Have you ever hit anybody and heard him go, like make a weird? noise? No. Or do jazz hands? Yeah. Have anyone ever jazz hand? No.

Love Josh's fascination with all the... Because I'm fascinated with the human condition. So the human condition, a lot of that is what happens immediately in situations. So in things you can't help.

Like this? Right. You can't help that. So I'm always in those situations, I'm always curious how people react. I love I just love that stuff. Like, I'm a strict people watcher at airports, and I just like it, dude. It helps me in my job. Right.

When I make, when I tell stories, I need to put a character in a story, I'm paying attention to. I'm paying attention to things that people do to make it more real. If I need to make somebody up, that person's going to be real. Right. So I need to know the way people react. You know? Yeah. You know, I bet you for your job, you need to pay attention to that stuff too.

Yeah, no question. Right? because you're like, oh, I recognize that so I know what's going to happen right after that. And that's what it is for me too. Like, but I like it. But funny noises and people getting jacked up, that's just the asshole on me.

Like, I like, you know what I mean? You're definitely always curious about what happens, like, in any sport, like people shit talking or moves that are made. But, you know, I, I'm buddies with David Ortiz. And I ask them the same questions. Like, who, on first base? Who's the best on first base? Right.

What guy was funny and who was talking shit. Every to a man, everybody says, Sean Casey was, when you got the first base for Sean Casey, he was going to make you laugh. That dude was just straight up funny. I like knowing that stuff. Guys like Kevin Malar, like, they'll tell you good stories. And for most of us who never get to sniff anywhere close to that level of, and for most of us, dudes who wanted to, to hear those stories and be like, They're just people. And they react the way we react.

And they're doing... Exactly. All that stuff about... People would be surprised about how much, like... People are like, oh, what's the best shit talking and do people shit talk a lot? People would be surprised about how little it actually goes on. You know what I mean? Like, I am more of like a goofy guy out there on the field.

Like, if there's something in between plays or I see another fellow white guy out there, you're like doing... You're like doing jokes with them. You know what I mean? And joking on guys, like, oh, hey, yeah, sweet play, man. Yeah. Really major career out here. Like, stuff like that.

But that's the good stuff, man. And I love, I used to love when they used to mic up Andrew Luck. And because people would hit him. Because he would get hit and he would be like, oh, hey, great hit, man. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. Thanks for doing that. Yeah. This dude is out of his tree.

Yeah. By the way, I thought he would come back. Did you not think he would come back? Just knowing a couple friends who were close to him and went to college with him at Stanford. They were set that he would stay retired. But there was a part of me that thought he would come back. There's still a part of me. I feel like that makes me think he would come back.

right? What was so, why were they so sure? Just because. I don't know, probably his personality, like, knowing him, like, knowing that his identity wasn't wrapped so much into football, like, being a football player. Because a lot of it, that's what it is, man. It's your connection with, like, you know, what you identify as. So a lot of guys struggle with leaving or they want to come back because there's fame

that comes with it. There's all these things that make them want to be back in that spotlight or be back in that identity. Well, I've always said, man, one of the hardest, I remember when people were made fun of Brett Farr for his retiring. And I was like, look, you have no idea what it's like to be called Superman, your whole life. Right. And then one day nobody gives a shit about you.

Right. Your whole life, people have been lifting you up, telling you how great you are, gunslinger, you're Superman. You are. When you're a professional athlete, you're these superheroes, for lack of a better word. Right. Right. And now one day, like that, is gone. I can't imagine how hard that is.

And not to mention when you get replaced by somebody like an Aaron Rogers, like you see that you were replaceable. I assume that that feeds into it that much more. And where are you getting that adrenaline from? Like all that stuff. So that's why I'm fascinated with all of that. Like I can't imagine, especially for guys like Farr. And to me, Farb was a dude who loved playing football, right?

but loved the fame as much as he loved football. And then when he left, people just didn't. Right, the game goes on without you. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who you are. Like it's sick that you are who you are, but everyone's still wearing the same colored gear the next Sunday and rooting for just different people, man.

And when you're on the sideline that year, next year to come down, nobody gives you shit. Right. The game's out here now. Right. It's like it's cool. They want to take a photo or something. But like you said, the game is going on out there now.

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For sure. Are you like this part, the podcast and are you kind of approaching this, trying to tackle it the same way you would have getting ready for a season or like how are you do you have any of the same in ways yeah as far as like putting everything together and like preparing on certain occasions yeah there is a lot of carryover

but as far as like seeing a podcast being a game day like that's not the same I'd say what I get out of the podcast is that camaraderie part that I know I mean I already missed not playing ball So I get that out of this. But as far as like preparing and taking what I did in football over to the podcasting world, like, yeah, I very much tried to use a lot of the same analogies, a lot of the same approaches, like as far as measuring things, writing stuff down, how you want things to look, like, you know,

the camaraderie factor with the guys. Like, you try and implement and do a lot of stuff because that, I mean, playing football, that's pretty much all I've known. I've learned a lot of good stuff. Like, you play, you're in sports, dude, and I've gotten to play in sports this long. Like, you learn a lot of, you know, characteristics. and things that carry you and help you in the real world. It's just getting over that aspect of, you know, that fame factor being gone,

which I do think every guy deals with on some kind of level. For me, like when I talk through it in therapy and everything else, a lot of it has to do and comes back to like being in the locker room and being part of something that's bigger than you that you're doing with other guys with you, a band of brothers, right? You have all this melting pot of cultures and different people, different colors, different walks of life. And everybody's putting, not that, not that you're,

putting it aside like there's something there, but you all come together over one common goal. And you're embracing the suck with each other every year, all year round, right? Through training camp, everything else, to go after a championship, there's selfishness in it because everybody wants to get paid. But when you're able to sacrifice that stuff and you're going through these gritty days with the boys and you're embracing the suck with them, like you're saying jokes in the locker room, you're going to those hot practices, those cold ones at the end of the year, late in the when you don't want to continue to go in and wake up at 6 a.m. every morning.

It's like doing all of that stuff is that common goal that you have with those guys. So when that stuff's gone, it's just, it happens like that. And for a lot of guys, it happens before they're ready to. Like if I wasn't podcasting, if I wasn't doing all this stuff, would I actually be ready to walk away from football? I don't know that answer. Thank God, like when I'm sitting there through those, these last couple years that when I was playing ball before I started busting with the boys,

I'm like consciously thinking that, hey, this is going to end soon, whether I like it or not. Hopefully I play a longer, but maybe I won't. It's like, thankfully I started thinking about that stuff. But even then you think about it,

it still happens and still bothers you. So, you know, being able to sit and talk through it with people, therapy, stuff like that helps you kind of figure out, like, what your attachments are, what you identify with as a football player,

like what you're going to miss the most and how you can kind of transition into the real world with it. So for me with Bustin with the boys, I know a lot of my stuff is like camaraderie driven, stuff with like other people go chasing stuff that's like outside of us a little bit more. And I get to scratch that with the podcast

because I get to sit down with guys like you. People who are out there in the real world competing, I get to sit down with athletes still and still banter with the boys. All the jokes and stuff that I love about the locker room. I still get it out of that. But guys don't have that man. Like it's tough for dudes to get out of it.

Do you think, it's harder or easier. So say for a guy like Favre or Joe Montana, like when you are that guy, do you think it's easier or harder to step away? Then say somebody who you were like, I'm sure there was people who will never play football again after last year and I don't know who they are

and have never heard of them, right? Right. Do you think it's easier or harder or it doesn't matter? I don't think it matters. Because everybody's got their own, everybody's in their own, like the whole cliche, everybody's in their own movie. Like everyone's in their own life.

Like people like Farv and these guys who are the guys can sit and talk about like, you know, I have all this pressure and this stresses and like it's all gone and I want this. But everyone just gets so sucked into what their issues and problems are. They're just different problems, right? It's like the saying that what was it, Alex that you were telling me, the worst thing that happened to you, the worst thing that happened to me? The worst thing that's happening to you is the worst thing that's happened to you. Right. You can't compare it to somebody else's because you only have your own perspective. Yeah, yeah.

That's right. You can't compare sucks. Right. Right. worst thing is the worst thing for you. My worst thing is the worst thing for me. And that's that. I agree with that. It's like, and people listening, like, the argument on that side, like having perspective is these NFL players are arguing about which person had the harder go of transitioning out, but they're NFL players. They're millionaires. They're all this stuff. But it's all the same

psychological stuff that's happening in the brain, right? Like, you're identified with something and stuff as something is ending the way you don't want it to. So, you know, it just depends on the guy. Like, Andrew Luck, he's that dude, right? But he's somebody who can say, there if you listen to him and I don't know personally so I don't fully know but he talks about he wanted to walk away because the way the mental side of everything was taking a toll on with his injuries and always having to be in the training room and all this and that and it just wasn't worth it to him anymore and he could be somebody who just has a perspective that this is not my life like I'm going to have you know I'm 32 years old hopefully like I've prepared all the way up until

since I was in second grade for this life that I've been living in football and now I got to live, you know, hopefully I get to live until 90. That's double a life outside of what all I've known was and that that was football. So like having the perspective that, hey, this is going to end and there's a whole life to live that has nothing to do with this. And I need to figure out how I let this go and separate myself a little bit. Not because I didn't love it, but because what am I actually loving? And a lot of it is the fame that you get caught up in.

But for guys who aren't known about, it's stressful because they want to continue just playing ball and they might not know what else to do. So some guys are still out there still training. They haven't been in the league for two years. And they're still like, whether they're going through the Canadian system or the arena system and they just think like once I get my opportunity, it's like the Kurt Warner, the Kurt Warner effect. Like he was bagging groceries and got his chance from being in the arena and all this other

stuff. Isn't there a show out? He's got a movie coming out. There is it, but no, there's a show. So how many people in the roster, 53? Yes. So I think they put together a show called a 54th man or something like that where they took the last person cut basically from every team

and they're putting a team together. And it's a show and they will, an offensive defense, do you know what I'm talking about? I don't think so. They're putting a show together and they're having these dudes just trained and so they'll have a full 11 on either side. And they're like the last person cut from every position, from every team. Yeah.

Something bananas. I was reading about it. I'll have to send it to you. Is it a reality show? Yeah, it's supposed to be a reality show. Yeah, I mean, all that stuff's interesting, dude, because the guys who are the guys, right, and have all of their ways of having to cope with things and something goes on with them and their lives, it's like those guys in a world of a guy who's been on bottom halves of rosters,

those guys never partake in worrying about making a team or anything like that. Like the day to day of worrying about how you performed on film and you're up at night and you're trying to study and like, man, maybe I'll get this play again. I wonder if coach thinks this about me. Since I didn't make that play, does that mean they've labeled me that guy for the rest of my career? What are they saying in those meetings? Like you just beat a dead horse assuming all this shit and fearing all this. this stuff to where you got to go out the next day and perform and be like, man, I hope I did that

much better to make the team cuts come around. You're wondering if you're about to get that phone call or not. Like they're just, they're different. They're different lives. So I don't think one's harder than the other. I think it's just ultimately it's all about perspective. Do you, do you, in order to have good chemistry, do you have to like each other, like in a locker room? Like, does it matter if they like each other or does it just matter if you play well together? I don't think it matters if you like each other as much as it matters on if you respect the teammate next year. Like you don't have to like everybody you play with.

But if you know they have your back and they know they are on top of their shit and you can trust them, I think more so it's about like trust, respecting the guys than it is about liking them. Because there's guys like, I wouldn't say I dislike, but I'm not going to go out and have a beer with them or anything else. But if I trust them and they do their shit

and I respect the work that they put into it, then it doesn't matter. I like them or not, I appreciate playing with them. So tell me, so out of all the teams you played on in the pros, if you could think of one, you were like, this team underperformed in a way, I didn't think, why would it be, what's the reason for that huge disappointment of a season outside of, is it camaraderie?

That's a good question. Is that a huge? Like, does that start to drag a team down if the locker room's just sour? Oh, absolutely. Now, which situation are you talking about to where we underperform? Yeah. And does a locker room get sour when you're underperforming? Yes.

So I would say my 2016 year, we had went to the playoffs the year before with Kirk Cousins and the whole you liked that when he had that you liked that video. So great. And we went on, we went on, it wasn't necessarily a run either. Like we ended up going like nine and seven and getting into the playoffs. But the next year, we essentially returned everybody. And Kirk was now the quarterback over RG3. They part of ways with RG3.

And we were about to have. Kirk Cousins. Is that the craziest fall from grace of all time? It's a wild one for sure. Is that the quickest and craziest? I saw him commentating in the booth this weekend. I mean, Vince Young's one too, right? I mean, Johnny Mansell.

But was Johnny Mansell? He was never had a good year. Yeah, he was not in the pros. Like Vince Young was like a rookie of the year and went 10 and six, right? And then to the playoffs, like, RG was like the same thing. Yeah, man. Wild, wild fall. Were you on that team with him when he was?

I wasn't on the team where he, they went to the playoffs and he tore his ACL. I was on the years after. I was there during his downfall and stuff like that. And it's, it's, it was difficult. But being on,

in that organization was the only organization I knew at the time. So a lot of it is like coming from Nebraska and coming from coaches like coach Bo Polini and all those guys and seeing how college programs ran. Like it's just different. Politics seem a little bit different in the NFL. And now that I've been on other teams, you see how dysfunctional it was on the Washington football team at the time. But I would say when we returned with Kirk and all these guys and these pieces we had in place that year after, it might have been 2016.

We ended up, I think, 8, 7 and 1 and not making the playoffs. And that was a year that I would have thought, like, we would have got it in the playoffs and done some damage for sure. Like, that was, I thought we had a good team going into that next year. But culturally, looking back, you just see things that were dysfunctional about that team. Like, you see what guys got away with, whether it came, whether it came with being at church. treatment or doing treatment all time. And a lot of things that equate to like small things, um,

that you just see like this privilege it creates with these guys where you can't really, really tell them otherwise. Yeah. Or confront them otherwise for being late to something. Or sitting down during a walkthrough. Uh, like all these, like all these little different things and nuances I look back on and I'm like,

you can see why we weren't a better team that we should have been. Like we were an underperforming team. And that's, and I didn't, you don't realize that until you are a, around a team like when I was on the Titans, like seeing the way Vrabel handles a lot of small stuff. Love him.

There's pros and cons on every team. What's that locker room like when you're underperforming? Blame game. You'll get on, you don't know whether to be the guy because, like, I prop myself on being like a smarter player, like knowing stuff that happens. And you get on those buses after the game and you see the divide start to happen because whether pass rushers is past rushers would be the guy. that talk about it, but guys want to get snaps

because, man, why don't they let us just rush for? Why aren't we blitzing more? Why aren't we doing? They start questioning what the calls are. Why are we calling this dumb call? Like, coach had me in this play when they're probably the ones who mess up the fucking play to begin with. Because if all 11 guys are executing the same play, it doesn't matter if you're in the right call or not. As long as you are all

on the same page, you can execute hopefully the way you're prepared, you can still win that down. But whether or not guys play well, they start, you see the blame game happening. The guy next to him might agree with them. I might know in my mind we probably shouldn't have been in that call

but is it going to it's not going to help anybody for me to agree with them. I have to play the other side of it just because we can't start dividing that way. We can't start separating like this. You got some guys who are quiet who just don't want to be involved with it

but that's when you start seeing it. And then it'll leak over in the practice. It'll leak over into the next days to where guys are, you know, bullshit and are blaming other things and depending on what kind of coaching staff you have, like coaches can succumb to the same stuff.

Who's the coach? At that time, it was Jay Gruden, but I'm talking about position coaches, like guys, assistants, all this stuff. Like, it's all a collective, man. So it's like you see the divide start happening in moments like that. When you lose and shit hits the fan,

you figure out who you are as an individual and also as a team because you see the way it gets handled. You see the way teams bounce back and know how to stick together and correct the shit that's going on. And you see teams that divide and play the blame game

and it just gets dysfunctional that way. Is, is, so to me, when you're a leader, coaches and stuff like that, being consistent and having a consistent message is really, and parent too, by the way, is really important, right? And one of the reasons I think hoodie's so good is he's like, you know, he's never had a team that's underperformed. Maybe, but they're still winning in 11 games, whatever. But the rules are the rules, and they're consistent. and it's team first and people get cut on ceremony.

I remember when he got rid of Richard Seymour. I'm like, this is one of the best defense of what are we doing? Yeah. But he's got his rules and what he sticks by and all that stuff. Do you think part of that, like a culture, is the consistency and the one voice and the message and all that stuff? Like what you're talking about is people getting preferential treatment. And I imagine that kind of stuff doesn't go over too well in a locker room

when you're like, this dude, like, this dude gets to do whatever he wants. Right. And, you know, does that? Yeah, no, I would say the consistent message is super important. Like, that's one thing I know I haven't been on the Patriots, but playing for Coach Rable, who's came from the Patriot organization. That's one thing that has always harped on. Like, there's always a team meeting to start the day.

There's always clear team keys. There's always a clear vision at all times. Whether it's about the team, whether it's about the offense, whether it's about the defense. Like there's always a certain message each and every time. And there's always a foundational message, a foundational why across the board with everything you do. And I think that is super important because whenever you veer off the path,

you can always get back on it because everyone knows and it's ingrained in them, like what messages are being preached at all times. The team keys every week might change. But again, you're always starting with something very clear. Yeah. Always. And getting that, with the Titans, you look back on stuff with Washington and you just realize, like, there was never a clear starting point or a clear message other than everybody, every team who preaches, we want to win a championship this year or this falls below our standard when it's like, what is the standard?

Right. I think that's what, like, the organizations, like the Patriots, the Titans, those Patriots I just know of through playing with the Titans and talking to guys. But those are organizations that I do feel create that standard and live by that code. Right. I'm trying to think how many, I mean, maybe the Steelers fall under that category. Right. I'm sure they do. I'm sure like, you know, there's a lot of great coaches out there.

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I'll see him take a shot. Hell, I'll take a shot right now. We got one opened up. College too, if you want. Well, if it's college, Bo Polini. Yeah. There's just no, there's no question. He was a fiery dude.

He was a fiery dude. And, you know, that was probably, that's like his con, right? It's like being a fiery dude. The dude, like, blacks out during games because he wants to win so badly. I don't think he understood at times the damage like you can do on young players losing it like that. Now, a lot of us knew where he was coming from because he wanted it as bad as us

and we always knew it was out of love. But I would say if he had a con, it would always be in those moments of being fiery. But other than that, dude, as far as standard and preaching just fundamental things and teaching you stuff and carrying over from not being in some of the time guy to being an all-the-time guy

and everything he preached, dude. I've just always, I learned a lot from coach bow i probably learned the most from coach bow as far as in the NFL oh man doesn't matter if it's a head coach or not you can be either position coach or head coach yeah man i've had some fun dudes i've had some fun dudes i would say um as far as like a leader among like men and NFL players like grown men who have lives outside of it's all business uh rich bassaccia from the raiders he would yeah he to me he he he has the pulse of a of like a team and a group as much as anybody I've like seen

and respect and stuff like that. Man, my favorite linebacker coach, probably coach K.O. Kirk Alvarez. He was my first one in Washington. And what makes for you a good coach? A dude who keeps you engaged. I don't know. I think it depends, man. You got to be able to relate to a lot of different personalities. I think you have to be flexible when being with. guys like I was actually listening to coach Bo on a podcast not too long ago he was I think he was on

was it Walk the Line the one out of Chicago Do you guys know a Barstil Chicago podcast like is one of their Walk the line I know there's a dog walk one too but I listen to Coach Bo because Bo came on I want to say in August and then he was in Chicago not too long ago but I listened to that just to hear what they were talking about because one of the idiot texts me like hey coach Bo loves you

so I was like interested to see what he was talking about but I remember listening to him say like like, you know, you could always coach, like Will, for example, like Compton, you can ask Compton, like I coach him that way, because you could coach him that way and other players would see it. I'm listening to this for the first time thinking, if I had truly fucking known that, I wouldn't have been so fearful around making mistakes sometimes as a player. But like getting in that psyche of a coach saying, like, you can coach this guy a certain way because he'll take it the right way in front of other players where other players might shell up. And he doesn't know

that in his mind he probably thinks I'm taking it so well but he didn't know that I'm sitting there like yeah I'm eating it but at the same time like fuck am I fucking up like what can I do better because sometimes I would be out there playing to not make a mistake um but hearing his perspective yeah I think that's what makes a I think that's what makes a good coach being fluid with a lot of different different things and and communicate different messages to different guys communicating the same message differently to different guys because everybody handles it differently. I do think, though, when you get to the point where your message is making people instead of, when you make somebody scared to make a mistake, I think you've gone down the wrong

path because now they're thinking. And so like, and not just for sports, but for anything. Like, you want people to be present in the moment and in feeling free to do what they've learned how to do. Right. But when you get people thinking, I better not make a mistake, I feel like that's a 100% wrong place to be. Right. But you can see, like, in our little example, with coach Bo talking about me and the way I thought of it, hearing that message compared to the way he's sitting there talking about the message,

you just see that it was just a miscommunication, like a misthought of what happens when that goes down. Yeah. To where if you're able to hit on those things between coach player, you know, parent kids, stuff like that, like you eliminate a lot of those things because you know, oh, I'm getting coached this way because it's more so an example for other guys and I shouldn't be reading into it like my psychotic ass is doing in bed at night.

Hard not to. I had a... Just watching film over and over like, man, was it? Like, man, was it that bad? I thought it was solid, but... I had a baseball coach in college, my baseball coach in college. Red line radio, my fault boys. Not walk the line, it's red line radio.

Shout out the boys out in Chicago. That's my mistake. My college baseball coach. he this was Texas and he was I don't know if he would say things like this he talked real slowly his name was slim and we were you know we played in san Antonio Texas and we were playing against his team one week and he goes all right boys gather around now uh this is a different team we're not used to playing team with hmm

he goes with uh and as soon as he pauses we're all like and he goes let's just say they got a lot of skill players and I was like God he was the most casually racist dude and we were all like

come on Slim like he was like they're skill players we don't have any skill players we don't have any just shit on you guys Yeah. He would tell us straight up, we don't, we don't have any skill place. Yeah. I'm fucking this guy.

But not a good coach. His message was all over the place. We had a coach also, Jeff Brown. I could be 100% wrong, but I'm not. He played linebacker with Jack Del Rio at USC. He was also a catcher in the Dodgers farm system. When Piazza was there, I believe. He was ahead of Piazza, but he got in a car crash.

He crushed both of his feet. You know all those little bones in there. And they never, he ended up gaining weight and he could never. He was an intense dude, but big. And he would meander. This is the best heckle I've ever heard anyone give the coach. He was man. And he, by the way, he had benched me.

He benched me a lot of times. He didn't like, he was like, he was like, there's no room to be funny. I'm like, what do you think? This is the best. baseball benches. We're supposed to be fun, you know? Yeah. He didn't like me fucking around too much.

But, and I had really long hair, which he hated. Opposing players called me Cher, which was funny. Because I had this big Jew fro sticking out the back of my, yeah. But he was meandering out to the mound one game. And somebody from the other stance stood up and goes, hey, sit down, coach. Your fries aren't ready yet. And I was like, oh, no. Because I knew I was going to be the only person who's going to laugh because I had

already been benched. Yeah. And so I started to laugh. He came back and he sat down on the bench and he looked down at all of us and he goes, I don't know why you're not laughing. That's the funniest fucking thing I've ever heard. And I was like, thanks, coach. He was like, not you.

I was like, got it. Yeah. He didn't not like me. But, but for me, like, he made people scared. Not me because I was never like this too is not like he's going to punch you or anything. But you could see people their abilities. It was harder. They were tense.

They would go into the box, not shoulders down, but shoulders up. Like they were already thinking about what he might say. Right. That's got to be a tough. Right. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, if fear is a factor in while you're playing and trying to perform,

like you're already at a disadvantage. Yeah. Because you're not playing with freedom. You're not playing with like the belief in yourself. You're not playing with none of that. You're thinking about what it's going to be like if I mess up. up. Like, what if I strike out, like, man, I hope I don't strike out. Or, man, you know, if I'm thinking about what my examples is like, man, I hope I don't miss this open field tackle.

I hope I don't miss this tackle. And what you grow to learn and understand in like sports psychology and psychology in general is that, like, thinking all those things, that's what you're going to manifest. Yeah. Because you're playing, you're playing scared. You're playing in fear. And instead of playing like, you know, if you do miss it, it happens, forgiving it, moving on to the next. play like having that goldfish memory as Ted Lassel would say we'll see we'll see when you're coaching your six-year-old soccer team i know come on ladies get your ass yeah damn it come on lady bugs my

ass let's go take it way too seriously yeah for sure i i had a bunch of those fathers i coached my kids baseball teams all the dads do man we had one kid one guy show up in those short gym coach Shorts all the time. All the time. There was one time. He said all the time. All the time, dude. There was one time he was, he would watch the game from the, from the, like the third base

side, squatting, like in the catcher's position or one leg up. And one day his kid, his kid got hurt on the field. He ran out to tell him to get up. And I'm out there. And we won't say this, we'll just call him Mr. Jenkins. he was out there and he was squatting down and he's like, come on, you gotta get up,

you're fun, you gotta get up. And, you know, the kid, they're kids. They're nine years old and they're gathered around.

And I just hear a kid from over my shoulder go, Mr. Jenkins, your penis is out. I was like, oh. Just another penis joke. Yeah,

I was like, oh. Penis joked in the pod. Yeah, I was like, oh, no, this isn't a joke. This is real life.

That kid is going to have me. I was like, hey, dude, he's right. Yeah, yeah, your penis is out. Your dick's out, man. The baby bird's out of the next. Let's, uh, let's get that. Just bringing it all the way back around it. Let's go.

Nice, dude. Well, buddy. Bro, I appreciate you coming on, man. December 15th, go look the boy up. At Zanis. You know, there was rumors that you were going to do some stand-up. Did you guys hear that? I heard that.

Did you hear the rumors? I brought it up. I told them. There was rumors that he was going to do some stand. I got nervous immediately when you were, you know, You know, Steve Burns also been trying to get me to come over and do stuff as well. Yeah, it makes no sense why you would. I agree with you.

I think it's the fear element that I ultimately need to get over. Yeah, like what's... But I do agree with you. Yeah. And I've been writing some subjects out of my notes now to see... Oh, yeah? I've been, you know, dabbling, doodling a little bit. Can't wait to see.

I mean, it's got to be a ton of fun because you know what happens on my show. You do stand up for the first time. I've been to your show, yeah. And then me and Steve Burns. take you in the back room and rewrite your set and send you back on stage with new jokes. You guys are out there with me too. Out there with you.

It's like training wheels, man. I know, I know what you mean. I do agree with you guys. Like, it's like you're stuck being a pussy. That's it. I mean, I wouldn't say that to your face, but Steve said it and he calls you a pussy. No, we got to figure something out.

Yeah, we're in. It seems like it'd be fun. I'm already nervous fucking thinking about it. Because people want us to do like live pause and something like man it's different like we're on the bus right now we got the boys like it's just it's a different element but it's so much fun man and then it will open up a part of your brain that you didn't know was there it just will it's fight or flight in front of live people right it's fight or flight man and so you don't got some go-toes and you're just standing up their sweat

well i'm gonna hey i'm out i'm literally just walking out you know hey thank everybody you know kevin clancy yeah what You know Kevin Klanz. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're doing a live show in April, right? He's done stand-up on my show in New York before. I was like, just come do some stand-up. And he was like, he was like, what, like,

you're so comfortable talking in front of people. He did great. Like, this is all it is. Just think that you're talking to these dudes. Sometimes I freeze up with them boys, dude. Yeah, that's right. And bring one of the next time one of these guys will get on. Which one of these guys would be the best comedian?

I don't know, man. I'll be better than you Oh There we go That's how you get on that Yeah that is right That is He knows what he's doing

He's smart He knows what he's in I've seen him When cameras come on He freezes a little bit Live's better than cameras I think Live is better than cameras

You think you can stand up No no I don't think I can't Pass the buck already Yeah Also you can do it Yeah he did He just called you a pussy

And he said I could do it better than you Yeah but he just said He wouldn't do stand up You guys are both trying to gas like I'm saying I'm not... Yeah, that's more situational, funny.

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