Bussin' With The Boys - Kalen DeBoer Talks Taking Over From Nick Saban + Implementing His Own Culture

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

Recorded: April 24th 2024 | In this weeks episode, the guys are back to recap the NFL Draft and who were the big winners and the massive losers coming out of it all. The guys have some wild takes coming out of it on who won and lost. Taylor then gets into his viral moment with his daughter that happened at the Preds game. Like father like daughter. Following the intro the guys finish up their spring tour by sitting down with new Alabama head football coach, Kalen DeBoer. He obviously has taken over for maybe the greatest coach of all time in Nick Saban and has massive shoes to fill. Will and Taylor dive into what the process was like with interviewing and getting the job. DeBoer said he essentially had 24 hours to make a decision and that was coming off losing the national championship. DeBoer then gets into what to expect from the Tide this season. He is trying to implement his own culture while trying to keep the old traditions that have made Bama, Bama. He gets into his first message that he gave the team and how he met with each of the leaders to talk about what they wanted to see this year. Overall, after listening to this conversation, it's easy to see that the tradition of Alabama football is in good hands. Enjoy fellas. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 3:25 Shoutout Our Sponsors 8:36 NFL Draft Recap 42:45 Nebraska Spring Game 46:44 Taylor At Preds 54:01 Dad Moments 1:05:27 What Stat? 1:11:46 Shoutout Core Memories 1:22:12 KALEN DEBOER INTERVIEW STARTS 1:22:13 Origin Story Of The Dad Hat 1:24:16 Did He Want A Son? 1:25:42 Coach Was A Bit Of A Baller Himself 1:27:02 His Transition Going From Playing To Coaching 1:27:43 Learning Throughout His Stops 1:28:11 Getting The Call From Bama 1:33:01 Massive Shoes To Fill 1:36:16 His Relationship With QB1 1:37:45 His First Time With Team 1:39:11 The Phone Call 1:39:57 New Alabama Offense 1:41:40 Recruiting Tangibles 1:42:58 New And Old Traditions 1:47:17 Tucked In Shirts 1:50:52 Who He's Looking Forward To Coaching Against 1:52:21 His Mentor's 1:54:04 His OC 1:56:22 Do You Keep Your Coaching Depth Chart Open 1:57:50 Post Game Rituals?For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That thing writes smooth. Why are you saying I drove a Chevy this weekend? Whose Chevy did you drive? I drove Will's Chevy. Yes, sir. He was kind enough to let me use it to move this weekend and it fit all of my big stuff, like my bed and my dresser and all that stuff.

And it was like riding on the cloud. It's nice, right? It was really nice. Bro, I told him the only stipulation because I got a text. I was like, hey, he's like, hey, I put the boxes by your garage. I was like, the only stipulation I need. The only payback I need is for you to get. get rid of those boxes you know your boy i'd get lazy at times boxes one of my achilles heel so i had uh

it was like a back extension box it's been in there for since december since december and i also put twenty dollars of gas and cleaned out your car a little bit too i did notice and i thank you for that what was that little thing that you put in the cup holder a little black it was like a black leather looking piece oh i don't know that was on the floor okay i didn't know if it's like something happened you're like oh let me just put this here i don't know what it is i was i told all my buddies that were helping me move. I'm like, do not fuck this truck up. Because it is my life, if it is.

It drives like a dream. It does. Yeah, it's fantastic. Going into Will's truck is like walking into a time capsule of the year prior. Well, you can literally find all the stuff, everything you need. Every piece of merch that's ever come out. Every sample of merch has ever come out. Old files.

I'm pretty sure I saw Will's last three years of tax returns in his truck last time I was in there. It's incredible. The amount of storage you can put in that ZR too. And it's a quick boy, too. a performer yeah oh yeah yeah before we start i do want to shout oh you had to go ahead no no go ahead i was going to say i want to shout out we uh tornadoes hit nebraska and iowa over the weekend some bad ones there's video footage out there they were crazy and uh so we did a t-shirt fundraiser to raise money where 100% of our net proceeds are going to i think there's four local charities in

nebraska and then there's going to be a local one in iowa and shout out everybody who showed up and bought a shirt and donated we raised 50 000 dollars almost 60,000 combined between Nebraska and Iowa. And not only that, who I want to shout out as a couple of our sponsors. Because look, I know we do a lot of ads at times and it can be annoying, but honestly, without your guys',

without you guys' support, the brand awareness that we have and the brand loyalty that we have, we are with a couple partnerships, Duke Cannon and True Classic. And the moment that we had posted about the T-shirt donation going up, the True Classic CEO,

hit up Taylor and myself, wanting to send boxes of shirts and clothing to these local charitable spots. And then Duke Cannon also hit hit us up wanting to send like they have these gun cases where they put a bunch of products, sobs, deodorant, hygienic products. Is that right? Hygienic products. And they're wanting to ship stuff. So not only did we raise a bunch of money to send to these local charities,

also resources and supplies from Duke Cannon and True Classic are going to these spots as well. So I just want to shout out those partnerships that were in because I thought, thought that that was major them, you know, seeing the boys post about the shirts and then wanting to get involved. It was, uh, it was awesome. It was really cool to see. So I just want to shut that. The thing that's wild about those two sponsors coming out of the woodwork. It's not like we reached out to them or like, you need to do X, Y, and Z. That text from a Ryan at True Classic just came in a group chat with like, it was literally like a book. Like that text you get when you're out with the boys from your girlfriend that makes you nervous, that big of a text.

Yeah. And it was essentially like, these are the resources you guys have that we can give, Boa ball, all these things. It was really cool to see. And that is, I mean, like, we'll say, we have a lot of sponsors sometimes. And Ryan's like, this is what a partnership looks like. And it just fires you up that, you know, the boys show up. I'm wearing all true classic stuff today.

You look great. Thank you. You've been doing nothing but reping the true classic. I love it. You finally found some jeans that. Finally. It's been my whole entire life. Yeah.

My whole entire life. 13th Christmas. Got some tight jeans. My brother got a pair of tight jeans. And I was like fired up about it. This was like when tight jeans were hitting the rage. Everyone was all. about it. Yeah. And I got a pair and I put those boys on. They didn't go past my kneecaps.

I was so upset. I thought I was about to change the game at my middle school that next day. And it did not work out for your boy. So thank you to true classic on that situation as well. Dude, the tornadoes were wild because I heard obviously the knelt boys. You see there? Yeah. I saw their stuff going. Yeah. And I saw that they're like, hey, we're going. I thought they said Kansas, but they're like, we're going to, oh, I've visited Oklahoma. We're going. There's like the worst storm in 10 years. We're going to go tornado chase. And I was following along because there was some interesting stuff and I'm seeing all these insane tornadoes and like 20 minutes later I go in the bird and you're like bro i know it was destroyed yeah I'm like oh my

god because I'm looking at their stuff kind of after the Nebraska stuff's going on and I'm kind of thinking like I mean I yeah I get their storm chasing but people are losing people are like losing everything everything which is uh yeah yeah different couple different worlds happening at the same time have you ever seen a tornado in your life um not close at all like that but obviously Missouri that you get a we get quite a few tornadoes but I've never actually seen one swirling like in front of my eyes

you just know when one touches down like Nashville a few years ago when one touchdown here in east like you hear the sirens and everything else but I'm not visually seeing anything you just you know the damage that those things fucking do did I remember I was in that Georgetown house when that tornado hit and we're like

Taylor and I were going to bed and there was she was looking on on Instagram she said oh there's a lot of like tornado warnings tonight and I was like that we'll be fine. Nothing's going to happen. I literally went to sleep. I slept through the alarms and everything. I didn't know why.

We could have died. Yeah. Could have absolutely died. Woke up and that was a crazy situation. Yes, bro. They fucking, yes. It's a good thing.

I feel like I've never actually seen one because then you feel like you're little close. It would be cool to kind of see one in action, but obviously if it's like in a field in a controlled environment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A field that no one cares about.

It's like state land or something like that. Right. Right. Right. Like, damn. Look at that. And the most politically correct way you could possibly say it. We'd love to see a tornado.

Because it would be cool to go storm chasing. But because, you know, it's like you and your old man, my dad all the time, everybody's rushing down in the basement. But my old man's like standing outside wanting to see the storm. And you're kind of curious. Like, oh, yeah, how close? Yeah. So everybody's attracted to getting as close as you can to death without actually experiencing it.

Right, right. And go to Arizona, there's no tornadoes or nothing like that. Have you, outside of Nashville? Was Nashville your first one? National was my first time ever, like, experiencing the thought of a tornado coming near me. Yeah. I think in Michigan one time there was like a siren that went off, but there was never a tornado the touchdown.

Yeah. I thought that was a myth. It's like that Midwest area. Oklahoma's like tornado valley. Yeah. Yeah. I can't believe people live there. Yeah.

It's a crazy, just you live in that area and it happens every single year. Yeah. You just know right around April, May, things are coming down the pipe. It's tornado season. That you can't control. Yeah. Just wild. Absolutely wild.

Other things on the weekend, the NFL draft took place. How do you feel like the boys in two-tone, blue did I didn't know how to feel at for I'm gonna if I'm gonna be as transparent as possible when that first round was going down we were up in Chicago I was praying cross crossing my fingers for Joe all obviously Chicago are not Chicago the Chargers take Joe all and I thought okay the next guy to get is that Ola Fashano kid from from Penn State because J. C. Latham really wasn't on my on my radar the only thing I knew about J.C. Latham is this fourth and five Michigan versus Alabama and I saw this kid at the combine and I

thought for how big this man is he moves really well but he played right tackle we have a right tackle so when i saw that pick come through my first reaction was fuck man did we get did we get the right guy and i worry because i have like what is it not postpartum PTSD from isaiah wilson and these top tier cc schools we all know like the top tier schools the top five schools and also like uh war mag too yeah well well yeah yeah unfortunately he was a guard he was a guard he was the pick before him he was to pick the year before me, 10th overall. But like these top five college schools, they get a silver spoon shoved way up their ass. Michigan included, don't get me wrong.

But like, and you're kind of like, your hand is held through absolutely everything. So you get worried about guys. But luckily, we're at the University of Alabama last week right before the draft. I'm going to talk to Tyler Booker. And that guy's conversation, how he held himself talking about leadership, talking about speaking things into existence, just like the process. and where he learned that was IMG Academy. Which is shout out that.

Shout out IMG Academy, Bradenton, Florida. I actually trained there for the combine, and they were kind of like, they weren't fully finished with everything, but it was, it's an establishment. Yeah. Like if you want to be the best, you need to go there. If you have the opportunity,

you have the skill set to be one of the best, that's the school you need to go to. And he was talking about how they have literally have classes on leadership. So J.C. Lathan, the first thing I do is I hit up the wiki, and I see that this kid went to IMG, texted JP the next day, like give me everything. anything you know about JC Latham.

He's like, checks all the boxes. So that fires me up now. The only thing that worries me is, I don't know what he played at IMG, whether it was right tackle or left tackle. And I know he played right tackle, starting for two years,

G, started two years at Alabama, at right tackle. And we need a left tackle. So hopefully, for me, personally, that's like the hardest thing in the world to do is to switch. It's like riding with your opposite hand. And that's just how my body works.

But I've been around other guys that can literally jump from one side of the next, no problem at all. So are they looking at, putting him at starting him at left time yeah i think they came out and they're like this he's he's our left tackle if there's a coach to do it man it's bill callahan no question i'm telling you this dude at times you sit back as a vet you're like man they got to you're basically like reliving their college days working with this guy but he is a o lineman whisperer yeah but he's young

it's like uh him and scuronsky he's got like a younger room a couple of vets that are early in their second contracts and everything else to where you don't have like an age vet who's kind of like maybe resistant to that type of coaching that type of style i feel like coach Gallin having like a younger room who are going to be the starters, he'll be able to mold them the way, you know, he's wanting to mold them for the offense. I've never met him personally, but I've all, like, an old line room is like the most unique room in the entire, on the football team. Everyone is so close, there's so many of you on the field at one time.

And there has to be like some sort of gel or some sort of chemistry between all five of you and the entire room. And the who sets the tone is the offensive line coach. So I hope Callahan is in there. And he sets the tone. The stories of the cafeteria table in Washington. with the boys from the old line room how they just kind of sit you're you know assholes tight because he just runs through the tape like he is the leader of the old line room great it'd be like

shitty can't play for me can't play for me can't do it you got to get fucking betty hands like all this stuff i kind of sound like he's italian he's not italian at all but he does kind of have you he's like that uh the eagles coach which one who's uh what's the name of the eagles offensive line coach dude i've met him at the combine he was awesome too but he literally talks just like that yeah but he's been there forever yeah just stoutlin He owns the room. This dude's OG also. He's a stud.

But yeah, that's what you want. Dude, you want an older, heavier set guy running your O-line room that has like 10 key phrases, he says on a consistent basis where all the office line can go behind us back and make fun of the way he talks. If you have that, yes, yes, yes. You've got the first piece of the puzzle for the voice. And that is what they have. Yes.

Because it's not like a disrespectful, like Coach Callahan walked up on the conversation and be very much. Yeah. He runs that room. Yes. He runs that room. Yeah, absolutely. Biggest surprise has to be the Michael Pinnock's.

Yes, dude. The Michael Pinnock's grab. That is like the number one, I guess we'll see pick of all time. Because I understand the thought process of what they're doing because the Packers, right? Packers have done this for, I don't know, since they've been a franchise, it seems like. With Farr going into Rogers, Rogers going into love and having that type of success that they've had. But the Falcons have so many holes. The Packers, it seems like forever, have had a team established.

They've had, okay, we have a core wide receiver team. We have a core running backs. We have core defense. We know who our core guys are. We're pretty put together. We just got to make sure a quarterback is always waiting in the back lines, ready to go. With the Falcons, it's like every news article coming out about the Falcons going into this draft was we, they haven't had a rusher since Jonathan Abraham. They haven't had a guy.

They haven't had somebody that goes in, rushes the power. Someone you got to worry about a war daddy that you're like, boys, we have to block this guy. Yeah. And so it's like. And you pay 100 million guaranteed to Kurt Cousins. you're like, you're going in this season to win right now. To win right now. Yes.

And so why not add that piece of the puzzle? And I feel bad for Michael Panix Jr. Because the kid is an incredible talent. He's gotten through a bunch of adversities. He's had a couple of knee surgeries. But he still is extremely athletic, extremely able to move so well, can put balls on an absolute dime.

He was throwing to aliens. But like you see him all the way up until the national championship, dice people up, left, right, and center. And he played on a team that was an underdog team. for, I don't know, eight of their 12 games. And he can make all the throws, like, his pocket awareness and just feeling like when somebody's there and he can make awkward throws.

I just feel bad because he's going to be like, what, 24 now, probably going to be like 26, you know, depending on how Kurtz. 26, when he'll get his first start if Kirk Cousins plays out the remainder of next year's season. Right, right. Because another thought, too, I think Dan Oloskey was talking about it,

that other angle of having somebody to kind of groom and waiting in the wing when Kirk is done. But also they think that they'll be competitive and play good over the next couple of years that they would have a lower back half pick. And if you're trying to get a quarterback for the value, that's why they picked them at eight. Because they feel like they're going to be later in the draft because they're going to be good.

But the counter argument to that was, yeah, but if you're trying to win right now and you think you got your quarterback, why not surround him with weapons right now and not even worry about playing this long game of chess. But I guess, yeah, man, I guess we'll see in a couple of years. J.P., how do you feel being in an Atlanta falcon?

I love seeing Michael Penix in the city of Atlanta. I did see a hilarious movie. Hang on a second. I think. Yeah, I'm not hearing you. Oh, man, geez, got the bad one. I love it. I love seeing Michael Pennings in the city of Atlanta.

And I think the toughest part is the injury history he has, but it's also like Kirk, he is older. imagine Kirk goes down obviously that would suck but like he's an older quarterback the risk is higher with him he goes down now you do have michael pennix back there and black left-handed quarterbacks in Atlanta dogs are scared yeah not we said we're back humans are back dogs are not I saw this one photo was like the dog perked up eyes wide open yeah like Atlanta Falcons draft another or draft a black quarterback left-handed all dogs around Atlanta just perked up it was What doesn't make you feel good is the video of blank talking with the GM.

And his GM obviously is trying to give his reason why he did it. But also we don't know what's said. True. We don't know what said. But we can read body language. Does a lot. Do you feel like, though, if you're going to take a quarterback eight overall, like that high in the draft, like the owner wouldn't be privy to that before it happened?

You would think so, but you know what I mean? You just watch the body language of this clip and you're, you think, no, he had no fucking clue. He's pitching his ass off. Here's a thought process. Do you guys want to, at least one of y'all take a chance at trying to say what he's saying on here and do a little... A little lip-read? Yeah, but before you do that, hold on.

I want to have one more statement about Pennix. Because I saw this take, and it's not my original take, but I do agree with it, is when they brought Jordan Love into the Packers behind Aaron Rogers, if you look at Aaron Rogers' gameplay, it shot through the absolute roof. And it just made both guys way better. Kirk Cousins might be pissed and Aaron Rogers was noticeably mad about the situation Kirk Cousins' team has come out and said that he's pissed about it this could be something that like truly just elevates

Kirk's game competition because everyone shits on Kirk for his whole career is only one one playoff game but he's made all this money blah blah blah now I feel like this might be that little extra juice for Kirk and he's coming off in Achilles which is a very difficult injury to come off of and so you just draft the guy who's at knees

not Achilles all right let's give it this all right who's who's gonna put your headphones on there and do what stop messing with that guy all right go ahead oh

okay that's just them talking way too loud yeah way too loud that was insane I don't think you need it because it's gonna be the giraffe yeah it's literally them talking all right

go ahead you can watch you're you're coming in you're coming in ask me are you trying to watch the video through first I'm trying to watch the video through when you look at the $100 million we gave Kirk that's we print money America prints money

you've done that yeah you see the debt now when you look at Jordan Love what the Packers did with Jordan Love they sat him for a couple years I know he was 21 you're saying he's 24 he might not play until he's 26 but listen to me if we're competitive for a couple years now and we have a later pick in the draft we just got this quarterback early in the draft

and he can be our future have a couple years to play with him that fifth of your option you can sneak it on him you can sneak it on him any which way because he doesn't have four years of film. He's only got two years of film. So you can tell that fifth-year option on him. And we're going to be in the green if we're competitive. Do you think we're, he's like doing the little hand thing.

Do you think we have the talent that the Packers had when they brought in Jordan Love? That's a blank saying. Yeah, but I personally have no clue. You got, you got Kyle Pitts. Coach, that's a great question. Now, receiver-wise, we got a, what is it, Kenyon Drake? No, Drake London. My fault, Drake London.

Coach, you look at it. We got Drake London. We got Kyle Pitts. Now, I know he wasn't getting in a whole lot of stuff. separation but that's what we brought in coach morris teach these guys to be athletic quick on your feet teach these guys to get some separation we get at a be john robinson so we got the talent we got the horses that kirk confided to and panics can learn from and also the competition the cream rises to the top erin rogers was pissed off joy with joan love right behind him kirk cousins is now pissed off we flustered

their whole camp this is going to lift the ships of everybody you said twice as many words this whole entire video arthur blank literally makes one comment the whole time you know like you know like Like this video is great, but the video, what the video doesn't capture is Arthur Blank getting his attention. Like, hey, let me talk to you for a second over here. Just taps him on the shoulder. And he just starts going. Powerpoint presentation. You look at here, you look at there.

You know, he brought that pic. He held it to his, he called Michael Penix. And he's like, all right, yeah, yeah, we'll get it. We'll get it locked in. Yeah, absolutely. And then just sat there and waited the hairs on the back of his neck stood up as Arthur Blank, quietly just walked over. They're calling Pennix.

Like, hey, I know the pick is going to be known like when it comes across the ticker. but try not to say anything. We got to put some fires out before we make this pick, but just know we're picking you. Yeah. Dude, Arthur Blank is like the most gangster owner of all time too. I think so?

I had a meeting with them. And it was like two days after I went to Country Thunder and there's my voice is gone. I'm still hung over. And I went, I was in Atlanta and drive all the way into the city because they play in, they're in Flower Branch where they're like 45 minutes. I said, you know that.

You're a falcom. Yeah. And I go, I let I go into like the city of Atlanta. and there's like this old Victorian building, which is his office. And I go up and it's like everything is like really nice, you know, wood and a giant fireplace. And there's a guy on top of a black horse.

Yeah. And we sat down just me and him and talked and I could barely speak. I was like yelling trying to just get words out. And I thought, yeah, I'm not going here. It's probably not a shot. I'm going to make it here. But he does have that cool owner vibe and just keeps it calm. You see him too.

He's pissed off. His body language is mad. But he's at the hands in the pockets. brings a just does one of these real quick hand back in the pocket keeps it calm you know what says is talk to me yeah so why yeah yeah yeah so why would you do this explain this yeah then you got your boy uh joe walt goes fifth overall to your boy harball with the chargers i know you think uh joe you were talking about uh j c latham earlier going from right to left guys can kind of do it how do you feel like joe walk can can transition to that left side i hope he can i hope you can do it you know

him and I actually had a conversation. Hey, hang on, my fault. Transition to the right side. Got you. I don't know if I'm being 100% honest. I know that Joe sees himself as a left tackle. I know that he wants to play left tackle. How do you know?

Because I had the conversation with him. I talked to Joe about this and he's like, I want to play left tackle. I'm not, I switching over the right side's a difficult thing to do, which he and I shared that. And what I told him was when you would meet with these teams, tell them that. Like, don't just try to be yes. sir everything I can do X, Y and Z I can do it all for you all. If you want, I can snap the ball coach, whatever you want. If you believe

this is where your skill set is, then tell them that's your skill set is. This was at the combine, yeah. This is at the combine. And now Joe, he's going to, I mean, he's going to to run these shit out of the football. They're going to play old school, hard nose, three yards in a cloud of dust ball with Jim Harbaugh at the helm. They're going to be a good, that's going to be a good ball club.

Look at him just kind of hugs his girl like, fuck. Yeah. Put it in his arms as far out as he possibly can. I'm trying to look excited right now. I fucking hate. That guy right there at the beard. That's Tommy Condon. Son of Tom Condon.

Yeah, that's a sharp beard. That's a sharp beard. Handsome boy. They all kind of know the same thing. Like, yeah, your boy just hugged him right there. Like, hey, I know you're pissed, but just be happy, be happy. It's got to juice you up to the way Harbaugh comes out and talks about, people talk about, hey, we're going to get weapons.

Lyman are weapons. They're the tip of the spear. And he's like, it's the only position group that doesn't rely on anybody else. Yeah. I love that. Look at him. that big bear. He lives like a bear that's just going to scratch in his back on the tree.

Yeah. Well, hopefully it all works out. I mean, it's a gun. The kid's a talent. He's a stud. And he got picked fifth overall. He's a lot to be excited about.

But they got Rishan Slater. And that guy is a proven talent in the NFL. They're not moving him to right tackle. Yeah. Unless there's a conversation they have where, you know, where Sean's like, yeah, I don't mind playing right. I could absolutely jump over there and play right.

Joe feels more comfortable at left. But if it's me, no. Yeah. I'd be very, I would have been very upset because I lacked the skill set to switch my feet. Yeah. Joe might be able to. He might just not know how talented he is just yet. Just yet.

Just yet. But you know how it is. Like say it's, you feel like it's getting forced in those first couple days in camp. He kind of gets a little flustered. Yeah. It'd be interesting to know, like what is, how he would be verbalizing it like when he's in the locker. I'm like, I can't play right. You know what I mean?

Yeah. It's going to be difficult because office alignment usually have a hard time like expressing themselves. They're frustrations. They just kind of get internally mad and then call whoever they're close. closest with and then move on. There's not like a big blow up. Yeah. For the normal offensive line.

Don't be seen, don't be heard. That's the old line. Another thing that happened, Malik neighbors got a taste of looking at college facilities to NFL facilities and how different they are. Yeah. We'll go through these draft moments here, but you can see Malik neighbors dapping up the entire New York Giants organization,

just knowing that he's going, he's entering hell at the moment with Janiel Dones. I think you referred to him as in the press conference. Dapting up each guy. like, God damn it, just fucking put me down here. I'm going to make a lot of money for you guys, but don't disrespect me. I feel like that's the vibe

that Malik Neighbors is giving. Yeah. He's like, hey, I hope you guys know, I'm going to do this how I want to do this. There are two kind of football players when you walk and you meet the higher-ups in an NFL league, an NFL team. It's the guy that wants you to respect them immediately

and you're like dapping them up, big energy. Hey, coach, how are you excited to be here doing all that? And there's the other guys that's like, you need to respect me first before I respect you. Yeah. And Malie Neighbors is given off the, I need that respect before I start smiling around here. He's given off the vibe that I'm going to put in two really good years up front for you guys.

And you better be, you better be ready to renegotiate right away. Yes. You better be, yeah. We're going to renegoti after my rookie year. Yeah. Yeah.

He's one of those guys for sure. Yeah. But he kids, I mean. He's a stud. Yeah. All the Marvin Harrison Jr. stuff,

people were talking about this guy's number one in the draft. Oh, and then all of a sudden, that classic, the rumors start going around right before the, draft happens of hey this guy his yards after catch the way he's so sharp in and out of his brakes is like attacks all like everybody saying he's even though Marvin harrison jrison junior was the best wide receiver everybody saying he's the most explosive and most explosive

and the dude is a tank too yeah absolute tank so i'm excited they seem like they got their obj a bigger obj bigger obj time walk around we will only see him let's what's another draft moment oh uh i don't want to mess his name up oh lu fashanu oh lu fashanu oh lu for Sean Penn State left tackle mom's getting excited she gives him the big hug girlfriend's to the right of the mom she goes in for the hug little leg tap first team all-n-n-bba defensive team yeah the girl she's like it's tough to be in that spot right you're trying to be excited you're trying to maintain composure a couple claps you kind of reach over for the old leg touch yeah mom is just I mean look at look at mom just he's hounding him stop

hounding him I don't know if that's his dad next him but she's tapping him like hey get in here Everybody block out so his white girlfriend can't get in this because this is our baby boy. There, there she kind of goes in for the young. Hey, you can hug me, but not my boy. That's right. We're transmitting the energy through me to him. You're on a yearly contract just like he is. Don't you fuck this up.

Every single year we're going to reevaluate and renegotiate. Look at it. Helping him up. That is a big man. Some big legs. It's Olu, right? Olu, Ashana. He might be thinking like, okay, mom, you're hugging me a lot right now.

Like, let's stand up, get some fresh air. mom even reads it out of nowhere. It goes and picks that ball off. Stands up, hugs him again even more. Yeah, tight coverage. And poor girlfriend back there. She's just kind of waiting her turn. Feels cameras on her, I'm sure.

She just tried to make a step. And I think auntie said, nah, get back. Back it up a second. Auntie said back it up. Maybe the Jets drafted the wrong for Shano. They should have maybe taken the mom. She is out there absolutely making sure

his son is not even touched by that girlfriend. Incredible. True past protection the entire time. And keeps her at a bad. too she keeps her hand on old girl's leg like you just stay down when this happens you let us get it in you see yeah she noticed that little that little leg tap that's tough and then our boy now a really cool moment was uh braden fiske with the rams you can make sure it's not as well this time let's hope the rams call fisk here and this is what the second or third round second round second round

and the rams are trying to get is this going to be playing the same same time I'm talking. Okay, well then let's just wait. Just turn it off, Mitch. We can kind of just overlay the visual. But basically the Rams were on the phone with them fired up. They were trying to get Jared Verst because they took him in the first round. They were trying to get him up to the war room to make that call to him because the boys are going to be back

playing together just like they were in Florida State. But they have a cool moment when Verst gets on the phone and they're just high for each other and then they both just start getting emotional. Which is fucking awesome. Yeah, you get your boy back. your boys back in the saddle with you. What an amazing feeling that is.

When you go to a team, you're walking into, you don't know anybody. You're essentially going back to camp, making friends, hopefully you can find a couple guys and sit at breakfast with and have a couple laughs with, but you really don't know what's going to happen.

Going from East Coast to West Coast too. Right. And for Braden, being a small school cat, before he transferred to Florida State, being a kind of ripping it up at the combine, just shot up draft boards for him to get taken. He's going to love McVeigh, too. like what a fucking coach to play for yeah this is such a cool move by lesneed and mcvay to be

to something is so sacred as the draft they literally have rooms called the war room that they're in there and they're looking they have their little things okay this guy's off the board now who's our next in line what do we need all that stuff like they're truly like setting up the future of their team and for them to to call one of the guys they drafted just a year ago and bring them in because they know that they're boys that's it that's more of a bro move than i think people even realize yeah absolutely yeah but to see fisk have the conversation with the coaches and everything and it's yes sir no sir like every one of these calls is either a kid crying or yep let's get it yep yes sir yep yes sir yep oh unless the caleb williams call was a little

awkward yeah we can get into that a little bit too but i feel like caleb williams he's just a different cat different cat extremely talented i'm not getting on big cat's list yeah yeah you don't want to get on big cat's list yeah i promise you that you don't want to be on big cat's list but we can still the minute big cat said that everything before this was wiped clean because i have said a couple of things about caleb williams i'm not i'm not ruining that opportunity yeah i think Caleb Williams. Who's the receiver that they took? Roma Dunzee from Washington.

Yeah. Who's a stud. Yeah, the Bears knocked it out of the park with their draft. Yeah. Speaking of that, do you don't want to rank your top draft grades for teams? My favorite draft was probably,

number one, the boys where I started with Washington, Jane Daniels, I think he's going to be a stud. But in that division, the Eagles, you got a team that was abysmal on defense, more specifically the secondary last year.

And to go and get Cooper DeGine, just skip over their first round draft pick, but Quinyon Mitchell, who's an absolute dog, who attacks the ball really well, Cooper DeGine, cornerbacks with their first two picks and on a lot of big boards, top 10 talents that they got in the first two rounds, and then you get somebody in the edge.

What's his name? Is it Jalix Hunt? Will Shipley, just another gritty first-in, last-out cat. You get Jeremiah Trotter, Jeremiah Trotter Jr. as a linebacker, who Jeremiah Trotter Sr. was an animal at Philly back in the day. What's up?

He was a stud. And for them to get, I feel like they address a lot of their spots on defense to where a lot of people were calling for Siriani's head last year. Their defense played really poorly. And again, in that back end. Now you got Blankenship, DeGine, Mitchell, Darius Slay.

Say the best one. Cooper DeGine. Trevor Kagan. Trevor Kegan. and they get your boy Trevor Keegan out of Michigan. I feel like for good value in the fifth round. Great value of 172 overall. I mean, the guy you can watch the film,

obviously a dude that's limited athletically, plays in a phone booth, but he is a guy that loves football, loves to get after it, your classic hog, who's going to give you every ounce of effort he can possibly give on a day-in-a-day-out basis. And didn't allow a sack in 2023

and played eight consecutive games without allowing one single pressure. That is. And again, a Michigan man, coming from what's the trophy call where the entire line gets it? That is the Joe Moore Award. The Joe Moore Award.

They were two-time, right? Right. And Michigan played one of the hardest schedules this past year. If you look at the back half of the schedule, they played Penn State, they played Ohio State, they played Alabama, they played Washington. Right. So he's got the, he's got the O-Lyman Awards, the Joe Moore Award. So he's coming from a good old-line culture in Michigan and going to a great O-Line culture with Philly. And there's a lot of reports coming out of the combine of like higher-ups, GM saying that like these Michigan cats are,

head and shoulders above mentally where usually guys are at going from college to the NFL. And that's a product of Jim Harbaugh and the culture that he established. 13 guys drafted. 13 guys ready to go. Program record. That's awesome. I do like that. It's very interesting that you picked the guy, team that probably picked the most amount of white guys.

That's very well-confident of you. But also, just to play devil's advocate, you know, they're one of the rivals of Washington. I do feel like Washington had a great draft. But for the Eagles, again, to address absolutely. I think they traded up for Cooper as well. But to go after spots to where they need filled, I think that that's why they've been my favorite draft. There's nothing more heartbreaking to me

than when I saw Cooper Dugène fall into the first round. That moment that you, me, Stephen Shea, Rohn, and Brandon Walker shared was so nice before you got duped. I know, I know. Which sucks because it was coming from those kind of like, you know, those, I don't know, how to call them the credible bot uh ex profiles like the dove climb and the ML football

the JPA or whatever it was like that those are the ones I saw it on because they you know I would I would type in like if the Eagles are drafts I type in Eagles and then usually the most recent tweets are saying oh so and so they're they're getting this guy yeah it had been put up and then when we went back afterwards it was then deleted but your boy got duped and it was tough because you know based on there was a tweet going around last week that Cooper dejean was our Jackie Robinson. That was not a big moment for... That was not your tweet. No, no, no, no, no. People thought it was, but that was not my tweet.

But it was a big moment for, you know, our culture. We haven't had a first round cornerback that maybe ever or maybe since like the 70s. We haven't had one start. And so who knows if he's going to get to play corner, they're going to move him to safety. Can you imagine what it's going to be like for him to line up against AJ Brown and practice? Yes. After AJ getting paid. Yeah, this. Strapped.

AJ's going to give him hell. Maybe or AJ might not practice. AJ might not practice. He might not practice. He's one of the man. He's a man out. Might out. Might out work ethic him.

I don't know. Maybe. It might grind it out. He might know the plays coming before the play even comes. That needs to be the hard knock series. Philly. Is Philly? And not only that, Devante Smith got paid.

Yeah, but I feel like he doesn't talk like AJ talks. Yeah. AJ is a crazy talk. AJ is like that. AJ is him. Those rookie corners. Whether you had question marks on the Mitchell playing at a small school and against the competition, he'll be getting the best competition at receiver playing against the Eagles with Devante Smith,

AJ Brown and those boys. He's going to find out real fast if he's going to make it or not. Yeah, absolutely. Real fast. And you're going to start callishing your brain mentally when you do get beat because you're definitely going to get beat. And in the fall, if you're looking for a place to go to grab tickets, you can go to the GameTime app. That's right. Thanks to Game Time, the official ticketing partner of Barstool Sports.

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eat, sleep and breathe the game of football. And then what did they do seven picks later? They turn around and get arguably the best edge rusher in this draft. Best defensive player. Yeah. Edge rusher is exactly what I just said. Defensive player. Dallas Turner from the University of Alabama. Yeah, saying overall, they're saying this guy's a Will Anderson 2.0 type of guy.

Like you just cloned him and brought him over. You see the leadership qualities that Will Anderson has at the Houston Texans. He's bringing that to the Vikings. We have got something cooking up in Minnesota, the land of 10,000 lakes. It's going to be a special time. The other guys, listen. Don't know a whole lot of who they are. I'm going to be real with you guys.

But you know J.J. McCarthy. But you know J.G. McCarthy and we know Dallas Turner. These other guys, I hope they pan out. I hope they're absolute studs. We are going to have, I'm now a Chargers fan, a Vikings fan, and a Tennessee Titans fan. Yeah. I mean, look, JJ couldn't have went in. Out of all the quarterbacks, I feel like he might have went into the best situation.

You got Addison, Justin Jefferson, T. T.J. Hawkinson. Who's their running back? for Minnesota Madison Madison Madison Madison Madison you got a lot of weapons you got a solid old line

they built defensively because they got better with Coach Brian Flores being their DC but you couldn't as a rookie quarterback going in to a situation where you got coach Kevin O'Connell who understands quarterbacks a little bit of a quarterback whisper coming from McVeigh was in Washington

obviously is coach Kirk Cousins a lot coach West Phillips who's the OC like he's in a very good situation with a great coaching staff and a lot of weapons around. Yeah, the only player that you probably could argue is going to the best situation as a quarterback is going to be

Caleb Williams. Keenan Allen from the Chargers. They get a dunzee in the, what was it, the ninth pick overall and the kid is an absolute stud. And so he's got a whole bunch of weapons going into the situation with a fan base that is dying.

Right. Dying for some wins. To me, that though, you know, that comes with a lot of expectation, a lot of pressure. the first overall pick. I agree with you. He does. He's going into a good situation, but it's kind of like, you know, you're going into win now. Minnesota is like similar,

but I just feel like as far as a young guy coming into something, coming into a culture that hasn't been on fire the way the bears have. The thing about Caleb Williams is he's obviously a unique cat and I had my comments about him after the combine, but the pros of having that personality is it really seems like he does not give a shit. Even keel. Who's saying anything about him. Like he's going to paint his nails. He's going to do debaes. a million times he thinks that's super funny even though that wasn't a good Chicago accent. He's going, he's like buying in and also buying in the way he buys it. He's going to stay true to himself if he does have, he has the talent.

Now we just need to see if it shows up in Chicago. Another quarterback that had a phenomenal weekend. Dylan Rayola out of Nebraska. Do we want to hit on the Nebraska spring game? I don't, but you can. Any. One last thing for NFL draft. One last thing for NFL draft.

JP slowing me down before I started getting off about it. Just some kind of juice for all these high school kids coming out. In the first round, five, five stars were picked, 15, four stars, nine, three stars, one, two star, and two undrafted, or two unranked guys for the first round. It does. I mean, it isn't about how you start. It's how you finish. No question. And that's not even the finish either.

Right. Because it's a new start. Right. Turning of a chapter right there. That's the thing that dudes you need to figure out the most is like you've gotten drafted. You've gotten that call, especially the kids that sat in the first. first round like your bank account is forever changed but it's now it's proving that you are worthy of that bank account right you know what I'm saying now you have to play up to the level that you're being

paid it's no longer hey let's get the classes in order make sure we show up on time it's either you're going to you're not going to and that'll that'll dictate your career other than injuries because you'd be in a first round pick second round whatever round you're drafted in there's a whole other wave that comes in next year So if you don't start showing what you're worth out of the gate, like that's what drafts are for. Obviously, everybody's spotlighted, showered with love, just ass pads all over the place. You're making all this money, hugs, cries, all this stuff. And now, you know, rave, it's like, hey, it's not about how you get here, it's that you're here now. Right.

And those ass pads and all that, the minute you put on the helmet, it's over. Right. No more ass pads, none of that stuff. Like, you need, it's now time to go to work. And it's such a crazy thing that I don't think people talk about is. if you are picked in the first round of the NFL draft, you're riding that highlight crazy. You're getting more text messages than you've ever had in your entire life.

You walk in, everyone's dapping you up. That first practice is going to be a tough practice. Everyone's going to be gunning for you. All the defensive ends, if you're a tackle, they're all going to be gunning for you. They want to show that, oh, you picked him. I can make the team off this guy by beating him. Right.

You have coaches are now going to be harder on you because the expectation is higher on you. There's a whole lot more that comes into it. So when you leave that first practice while trying to digest a whole entire playbook, it is very, very different. And the first moment you walked in, dapping everybody up getting coached hard. It's like your lifestyle is not outside of the building where you're doing autograph deals, you're doing marketing deals, you're getting hooked up all around the city, all these people want to do all these things for you because your lifestyle is going to be in those four walls,

basically all year long, especially as a rookie. But so Nebraska's bringing. Boys, anybody who saw the highlights, obviously I posted a couple highlights, our quarterback room and even Harburg, all the boys were throwing some dimes out there but seeing this 18 year old he's 18 right, he should be going to the prom Dylan Raola

looking at the maneurisms, the body language sitting in the pocket the man looks like you know, I don't want to put an expectation on but Patrick Mahomes. He does kind of play Patrick Mahomes. He's got the body style and he's wearing 15.

And he's wearing 15. Just poise. He looks good. Fellas, I'm, we might have a real shot. At what? Playoffs this year. Playoffs.

I've already put in my futures, plus 1,500, Nebraska, to make the college football playoff. Do what? I thought so too, but maybe everybody was kind of watching the spring game and the odds already changed. I think it's wild that Nebraska, I watch some of the game. And the defense is throwing in blitzes. They don't care about, they're like showing all.

all the things that they have. Usually these spring games are like preseason games where you're kind of just, and we're gonna run a four down front, keep it base the whole time. We'll mix in some zone with some man and that's it. I mean, look at that throw. It's a good throw.

And he went what, like 10 for 17, 183 yards. It's two touchdowns and interception. I'm not sure. He had a great stat line. But also, brother, listen, he is, and this is just an observation. He is doing a spring game. versus a team that went five and seven last year.

Time out. Okay, just to correct you a little bit. He's a spring game versus a defense that's returning eight starters and a defense that was ranked top 15 in defensive scoring, total yards, and rush defense. Just FYI. Yeah, but Big Ten, what? They won the national title last year.

Yeah, Michigan won the national title. I don't know if the Big Ten can claim that. Okay. We don't have to do that. I'm not going into that with you again. Either way, great showing for Dylan Raola. And Nebraska fans should be excited. Yeah, they should be.

They should absolutely be excited. And tornadoes touching down and we still got over 60,000 showing up, just ready to die, just ready to bleed red. You guys had a lot of people at that spring game. Yeah. I'm telling you, man, we were looking nice. We were like, did anybody else watch a spring game? I was just checking. I know it was the talk of the day.

The draft was going on, but people were talking about this in Nebraska spring game. On my timeline anyway. I do follow a lot of Husker accounts. That is, yeah. He looked really good That dime he threw in the back Right of the end zone I thought was a really great throw

The one he threw a long one in 19 Yeah That's the thing too is we got some color out on the edge now Didn't have a whole lot of depth of receiver We had some guys, some walk-ons that you need on your squad But you got some transfers coming in You get a little color on the outside Guys making plays attacking the football

It seems like we're gonna have a little bit more depth This year with the big race Okay you said it once And then you doubled that and said color again Yeah well that just is what it is Yeah but you can't say color Okay, we got some more black guys There you go

That's way better But you're sitting on a bus With six white dudes That went to some NASCAR games That probably you've A lot of this bus has probably heard A lot of mean words No, I'm with you

But this is a podcast That brings the locker room to life Do the boys in the locker room Not say that There's too many white guys on defense Yeah, yeah yeah And they're like hey We need a little bit more soul out there

Yeah, no I get what you're saying I know what the locker room says But I feel like it would be unfair to the viewer We got a couple guys out there Allies That might want to come after Wilcompton and I just want to make sure that I'm protecting my boy I know who I am

That's the problem I don't want people to find out I need my Look at the throat god I think that's Harburg dude I mean he's out there bawling Just elevated cats To the pylon

Michael Kett and Pennix Kirk Cousins Dude's just elevating dudes Yeah man I'm telling you You had a a speak out of big moments On the weekend Win Rebel with the Chug Yeah dude that was

I mean, the amount of text I got, the amount of text I got, like coach Vitello from the University of Tennessee, the head baseball coach, he's at the game and he sends me a photo of the big screen, just being like an awesome moment just took place. Taylor, chugs a beard, daughter, chugs the water. And look at Wynn, just being a showman, just like her old man. But everybody, dude, everybody was hitting me up. I mean, what a fucking awesome moment.

Dude, that is a bit. I don't let's go out the wrong way. that was the most proud moment I've had as a father. I don't want that to come off the wrong way. But, dude, we sat down. So it was supposed to be me, Tailing, Wynne, and Willow go to the game. Willow ends up getting a fever so she can't go. Something going around Nashville, Tennessee.

And I was like, okay, well, I've already told them I'll go and I'll chug a beer and do the whole thing. And so I have to go. She's like, well, take win with you. I'll take win. And Wynn, you see the paper in her hand that she's holding. She made it go predators. Like she drew that the whole way there. It was fired up because I was like, hey, honey,

we're going to be on the big screen. People are going to see it. I mean, daddy daughter moment. Yeah. Taking them to the game. She was, she was loving it. We get in our seats and I'm thinking,

to me, I'm thinking like, hey, this whole like, just chug a beer thing is getting a little, it's getting stale. Like, you can't just chug a beer, and there has to be something more. But you know, you know what the people want when you're at a Nashville president. Terlewan in a Nashville predator.

Yeah, you got to chuck a beer. So I go to win and I'm like, dude, I'm going to chug this beer and I'm going to pour it on my head and then you drink that water as fast as you can and she was kind of like I don't know dad like she was nervous right like she didn't want to answer the call

she didn't know how well it was going to go with this out and the other a lot of people and I was like honey when people see you drink that water they're going to lose their minds and she's like are they really I was like yeah it'll be legendary she's like you think so I was like yes so they text me they're like first

first TV timeout 14 minute mark we're going to put you guys on. And so as it's ticking down, we get to 17 minutes, boys are going back and forth, Vancouver scores, Predator score. My heart's starting to race. I'm getting nervous hoping my daughter answers the bell. Because if I point to her and she's just like, no.

I'm like, fuck. The camera just stays on her. Yeah, it just stays on her. And so I was really nervous. So we went over the game plan a few more times. Kate Daddy's going to check the beer. I'm going to pour it in my head. And then I'm going to point to you.

And when you see me point to you, that's when you get the water as fast you can, drinking this fast skin she said i'm not going to pour it on my head i said you don't have to yeah so i'm looking at my phone and the way yeah bro she just and the stand-up too yeah dude look at this kid's smile when i pick her up does everybody cheering because i was i was watching the tape like watch this what you hear the pop bro look at that face true true happiness it was it was dude it was so amazing to see her answer the call like that it the biggest cheese of all the time i was Dude, the pop from the crowd too.

Beyond myself. Because people were fired up that you were doing it. But then when it went to her and she started, you just hear this second wave eruption. Then you pull her up and everyone just goes nuts, bro. It was fucking awesome. Dude, I was sitting. So when I saw, when the timeout was happening, they started showing people and I was like, well, I can't just be looking at the jumbo trauma in my head, like, try to make it look as organic as possible that you don't know you're going to be on there, which obviously I know, you're going to be on there. And legit, I'm looking down.

I hear cheering. And I look up and it's, I'm like, oh, boy, still got some juice around here. I love that. So I do the whole beer thing and it was like, and then when, when started drinking the beer, it went like 30 decibels up. People lost their fucking mind about it.

Dude, the whole way home, the whole, like I literally walking out and some cop stops me and he's like, the way you smell right now, you would go to jail immediately if you got pulled out. We wouldn't even breath of lies you. I was like, dude,

I had the one. But like, you did just dump that. Yeah. But dude, she, we're in the car. on the way home and Wyn's like,

Dad, I should have poured the water on top of my head, shouldn't I? She's like already re-evaluating the film in her head. Like it was, dude, it was so cool. It was seriously like one of the coolest moments as a father. Dude, I bet.

And to see people be like the ultimate daddy daughter moment. Yeah, that was awesome, man. I love it. And look, I don't know if you've seen any comments but I saw a couple words like, oh, the drinking in front of your daughter, don't fuck those people, do you heard the crowd,

you heard the roar. Like, that is such an awesome moment. We were leaving. We were walking out because I had to get home her family dinner night, Sunday night. And we're like walking after the first period and people are stopping when to give her fist bumps. Love that dude.

You slam that water. Kenucks fans, Predators fans, everybody. It was like all about when Rebel the War. That's going to be a core memory that lives up there forever. Yes. Was it movie Inside Out? Have you seen that movie? Inside Out.

If you've not seen it? Maybe. It's about a little like 10 year old girl and she has like these, her emotions are in her head and like the stories about her emotions. and they're like evaluating poor memories. Yeah, it's a fucking banger. That's a good one to put off a Rue. Yeah.

Because you'll tear up too. It's so good. They have a new one coming out also. I think this summer. That fires me up. Yeah. And it's all about the core memories. Like, their joy's in the middle, jealousy, sadness, anger, envy, like all these other things.

Oh, I love that. And you just see them all kind of working it. And the next one's about a girl going through puberty. And I'm like, really nervous to see that. Oh, dude, don't say that line. Take her to the moon for me. You watch it. You're like, oh, my God.

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Things are going to wild. And you can watch the horse race right there on the app. So you get everything covered on this DK horse app. God. What a time. But yeah, dude, that was a... Great dad moment. It was a huge dad moment.

And should we go to dad moments? Yeah, we can talk dad moments. I got a few right here. I got a few with some dad talk. Go ahead. Do what? Yeah, I'll flip my hat around. I'll flip my hat around.

I'll get some dad. By the way, we still got our dad merch up. There's boy, mom. The boy mom hats are still available for those wanting to get their mother, uh, their wife or anybody who is, uh, pregnant and it's going to be a boy. We still have our boy mom hats and merchandise up in the store right now. Uh, our girl dad hats father's day is coming up in about a month, a month and a half. So for all the girl dads out there, all the dads, we have dad hats. We have girl dad merch, boy mom merch. You can get all that stuff.

But your boy, my wife, she is in Paris for, nine days. So I got the kid. I got Rue for nine days. I had her over the weekend. We had a lot of good times. A lot of good moments. I'm talking coffee shops. Pizzerias. We went and split a burger in a milkshake over at Joy Land. Phenomenal burgers, by the way, over at Joy Land. Wow. And by the way, my man over there said any time he was, we want him to come cook over at the bus. He's down to do it. We can get some cater. We can get something worked out. But dude, playgrounds. And by the way, we did have some playground drama. And tell me, I want to know your thoughts because I feel like this is where I'll struggle as a parent

because I feel like everything is personal with kids. I was trying to do the thing where Roos playing and to where I'm not trying to be around her at all times because she loves like when dad's involved with stuff. I'm trying to like sit back on the bench and let her kind of. You're trying to enjoy your time too. Yeah, well indulge the play. She indulge the playground on her own. She starts climbing up a bunch of stuff.

And she's climbing. There's these couple kids who kind of sit at the top and wouldn't let her come up. and I'm like sitting back, but I'm immediately festering inside. Like legit, remind myself to just kids or just kids. I see one like patter on the head and they're kind of talking to her. And I don't know what they're saying, but I'm only envisioning like the worst stuff. Right. And then they kind of walk off and Rue, she's so sweet and shy.

She kind of just stands there and then she kind of looks over at me and I just kind of do one of these things. And she finished just climbing up, but it happened a few times. And how do you view that stuff? Because I get kind of angered. Like I get like, you know, when I put Rue up and then she wants to go down the If it gets climbing on the slide, I kind of just indirectly talking, oh, don't worry, sweetheart, you wait your turn because this kid's about to go down the slide. And they're climbing. And then they kind of just sit on the slide because they kind of know she wants to go down and they don't want to move. Yeah, they're being shitheads.

Yeah, yeah, to where I'm like, oh, don't worry. They're about to finish. And then I like look over at the kid and then they'll kind of finish. All right, sweetheart, you can go. But how do you handle that? Like in your mind, am I kind of overthinking? Because I feel like that's what her making friends and her getting bullied. I feel like it's really going to be tough. fear, right? Is that they're not going to make friends. They're going to get bullied. Yeah. For me, I do the same thing where I'll walk up, like, oh, honey, just wait your turn. This little boy's about to go. And then you kind of look at him until he feels so uncomfortable that another adult he doesn't know is looking at him, that he's going to slide down the slide.

Yeah. Sometimes I've had a situation where I was at a farmer's market and some kid was not being tight to Willow. And the parents walked up and I said some of the parents. I was like, I appreciate it. I like that. I was like, hey, do you, your kid was kind of being a little rough of my kid. your kid was trying to try a little something with my kid and they're embarrassed immediately and I'm thinking yeah fix your house but that's to me that's a good that's a good thing from a parent if they like feel embarrassed on my fall blah blah blah blah it's the ones where I saw one little kid maybe 20 months and what's starting to wonder off the playground and then like yelling up for mom and kind of like getting a little nervous to where I'm sitting up and I'm like yo where's his kids yeah and then I see her all the way over

on the basketball court I'm just thinking man this kid was kind of 20 months old yeah yeah you gotta stick around my Like so my oldest win, she's six. If she has a situation with a kid at a playground, she comes up to tell me, I'm like, all right, go talk to him about it. I have her go confront the issue. But if it's Willa, who's three, I'll kind of help her navigate the issue until she kind of sees how things go down.

And then when she gets old enough, I'll be like, all right, you go handle that problem. Because you get them to handle the problem, now they're problem solving themselves. Yeah. And you're giving them tools instead of just helping them. Right. Because the issue, and I already know it, like I'm like wrapped around her finger to where I just, she's so sweet. Like if kids come up and they want to go on the slide and they're behind.

behind her and they're kind of like they're being kids are like ready to go down the slide she'll like step to the side and let him go in front of her and stuff and she's kind of passive yeah but but i just it always just melts my heart when i'm like oh do i feel like do i feel like a situation's happening right now like do i need to jump in how old are the kids they were i mean they were older like one was probably four the other probably six the one that kind of patted her on the head and stuff and i'm just thinking like uh she's getting bullied right now probably not i'm overthinking this but we just kind of sits there all quiet and stuff I know but she's really coming out of her shell of not being so shy.

Yeah. She's just like, she's just loved life. Yeah. Ever since she's turned two, it's been really just been happy, Rue. Yeah.

And it's happy, excited, confident, comes up a little more like, just not just mom and dad. Right. When y'all at my house the other day and she was with J.P. hanging with you and J.P.

going out of the far. That was so awesome. Yeah. To know she didn't need to be by me. And so if we started walking to the goats, JP and Will comes out of nowhere. I don't know how you felt. But in my head,

I'm like, yo, go back inside, Will. ruin the moment JP did try to take it the moment he's trying to take it all for himself at one point going down to see the chickens

you guys were going down and I could see that you two were kind of just starting to go down so I had to be like Hey Roo you want to see some chickens She has chickens I'm back Hey the thing though is she's a JP fan

I feel like he kind of rubs the boy Taylor kind of being around Which is crazy It was the handhold Three times as much as you I know I saw the handhold She's a big JP fan JCP Jopee Jopee

That's crazy I mean, I don't know what to tell you. I put the work in. I've been around. He says I put the work in. It's just crazy. I'm just going to blame it on my tall stature. Maybe it's a little more intimidating.

And the fact that my, that Wynn started trying to scare her with a mask one time. And that's all she talks about. Yeah. Every time we go to Taylor's house, mask all gone. Yeah, the mask is gone. Upstairs.

Win. Upstairs. Win. Yeah, Winn had the mask on upstairs. Mask is all gone. When puts this like this, how to train your dragon, toothless mask on.

And essentially just runs at Rue. Yeah. Comes up over my shoulder and just is like lean up and Roo's face. Rood just starts spasing, dude. Spassing out. That's when you sit back and I'm like, oh, fuck. That's not, that's not. You gotta watch how Will's handle it.

And I go over to win. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, you know, you're just like staying calm, Roo, it's okay. The mask isn't real, yada yada, yada. She gets a little spooked. I don't know how big in the spooktover she'll be, which will be a little bit of work, I think.

It's got, it's, I'll tell you, that's my dad moment. Is, win loves it. Wynn loves it. My dad moment is this past weekend, Willow started really talking about Spooktober and buying in. Really? Not only, she started like, she's like, because I told her like, you'll be four before spooktober.

She brought up to her as though. Oh, you'll be four before before then. And that's like, been like the craziest thing to her that she's going to turn four before the next Spooktober and have no idea why that's a cool thing to her. But that's kind of where we're at. Yeah. And ever since I got back from Mexico, dude, it's like only dad. It's the first time ever.

It's been like, only dad. I only want dad She'll come in the room Like on the weekends I'll kind of be Get up in the morning I'll go do my little thing In the recovery room

And Taylor will talk in the room Be like where's dad And she's like oh he's not here And she's like all right And this peace out And come meet me up in the recovery room And I build shit And mom will be like

You want to play with mom No No dad Yeah Yeah That's got to see Willow's like super blunt too She just kind of like

I kind of like I kind of want you Like I was like Dad I want you to stay And mom can go with Wyn. It's like, hell yes,

but I can't. I have to go. Dad has got to chug a beer. Yes, yeah, sweetheart. Mom is awesome. Yeah, mom's great. Yeah.

Very transparent of my kids about the beer chugging. Like, dad's got a drink boost. Yeah, dad's got to drink for his job. Yeah. Yeah, and they fully support.

And for any dads that get a little nervous about watching your kid on your own because I know it's out there. Guys like, you know, it's like, oh, you babysitting the kid.

It's like, oh, no, I'm being a parent. But also, it's really not that tough. Man, And they, you negotiate with them better with mom not around. Yes.

Like they listen. Like, Rue has been all time. Not that she doesn't listen, but there's usually this back to back. Like, if I wanted to do something and she doesn't want to do it, she'll eventually say like, see mama, see mama. Mama holds you. And I'm just thinking, bro, you've got to, whether it's eat this, you got to clean up that. It's really not that tough, man. And I was, I was getting sappy.

I was watching an Instagram video. And then it was like, it was talking about tough moments with your kids. And he's like, the best advice I can give is picture yourself at 80 years old. when they're old and they're kind of looking back at these fond memories. And all you want is for them to kind of be complaining and be back in those moments. I'm tearing up, kind of watching this Instagram video just being like, I'm glad I get to have this week with Rue because number one, school board with mom. But also like it's been fun, bro.

It's been awesome. You got to sympathize, sympathize whatever it is. Empathize. Empathize with the people out there that have like three kids under five and they have to be solo. No doubt. Absolutely. I just have one. So that is a very good point.

And then the people left two, it's like, why did I ever complain about one? But it's one of those things I feel like if, you know, if I'm out with Rue, you know, I ran into a buddy of mine. And it's like, oh, you're not helping me out, you know. And his wife will be like, oh, Charles doing this. Well, maybe I can go do this while you watch the kid, yada, yada, yada. But yeah, it's, again, it definitely empathized with that. There was this cat who had there where he was like watching three.

He's like, oh, yeah. You know, you just, he's like the goal, the game is this. You just take them out to eat. You take them, whether you want to pack their lunch and you go out somewhere to where there's outside. That way you burn through time. You're all out of the house. You're not all stagnant and they're kind of having fun. And then next thing you know, it's time for bed or it's time for their nap when you bring them back.

So you just, you're always getting outdoors. That was kind of the tipy game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get outdoors as much as possible. Yeah. And there's like a study about like kids with their dad solo and their mom solo. And like kids naturally are like more comfortable with the mom. So they'll show all the emotion and not as comfortable with the dad.

so that's why they're like more listening and more agreeable. Maybe yeah, maybe some respect. Because when we go places, they'll be like these kids, man, sometimes. Like, they're a lot. And then she'll go somewhere and do something. I'll be like, this is nothing. I sit them down.

We have team meetings. I'll say, hey, team meeting. And they all run to the chairs. They know exactly where to sit. I'm like, here's what we're doing today. Yeah. This, this, this and this. Is there anything else you guys want to do?

And they give up and they have a couple suggestions. I'm like, yes, no, absolutely not. We go through that. And then we stick to the plan. And then if they start to get out of line, you just revert to the plan, hey, remember what we talked about? Remember we talked about this? Remember the team meeting. And sometimes they get a lot out of line, we'll have a sporadic team meeting at the park. I love that. Yeah. I love that. Setting the expectation. Yeah, got to, have to. Yeah, it's a must, man. What else we got on the do docket, boys? I'm excited about my shout-out. No free shout-out this week. If, you know, we wanted to shout-outs.

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Benjamin at Thick Eric on Instagram Okay Benjamin Thick Eric Yeah I don't know I don't know But when you die

What is one stat You'd like to know about yourself How many times I nutted That's a solid one I would like to know that How many think it is We're up there Yeah how many times do you think you have nutted

Oh about that's the question We just go to this Yeah I would say I'm an outlier I feel like maybe every guy I'd say we'd put in 10,000 hours Masters of your craft Masters of our craft

Master of the craft I don't know man Dude when Taylor and I first met We were talking about jerking it And she's like how fast do you think you could Do it yourself I was like under a minute And I put it to the test

With her watching? No I went to the bathroom Oh That'd have been kind of cool though 56 seconds TMI TMI, TMI. Were you allowed to get yourself hard first?

Brother, that thing. Yeah. I'm hard right now. I think stays hard. No. The part of the show where everybody leaves. What do we want to know? What's your stat?

I don't know. Do you guys have any? Like how many times you've pooped? How many times, like how many beers you've drank? Why do you say pooped like that? I know. It's like his boob comment that one time. Like, hey, it is.

Boobies. There's a lot of boobies in that movie. That's not a cooler. JP's always got fire ones too. I would like to know how many people I've met in my whole life. I think I'll be cool. What do you think your number is? Let's see.

I have 4,000 Facebook friends. What would my number be? Shaped their hand, introduce. Yeah. Just met though, not remembered. Right. I think you got it because there's a stat on like a million I think so think about college bro yeah that's true I was thinking more like I was really thinking probably like 15k

no no shot you're easily you bring up college though like that's a good point you bring up college trips with your friends hey what's up I'm jp how many times have you said that in your life that'd be a good step in the meeting greet last week there's 30 people there true met all them Yeah, I met Alabama. Boom. My engagement party, a lot of people I have never met before. Yeah. Your wedding.

There's going to be up there. There's going to be a lot of people you've never met before. Yeah. It'd be cool if there's a criteria on like positively impacted, like knowing how many people you impacted. I think it would be cool to know. Taking a step further. Instagram followers. On yours, JP is how many murderers I've met.

Ooh, yeah. That would be, that would be interesting. That's a good. They say you walk by like eight. How many killers you've met? How many people who have committed murder? That's a good one. Thanks, dude.

Two good ones. Don't forget the calm one. Yeah, can't forget the come one. I'm just piggybacking. I think those are great ones. The positively impact. Or give us something.

Bro, my brain's not operating at that level right now. How many times you made your kids laugh? Yeah. How many times you picked up your phone? How many blizzards I've eaten? Oh. How many Pee and Js I've had?

Yeah. How many crackers with peanut butter you've had as dinner? That number would probably be like... 10,000. None. Crackers for dinner would probably be maybe 20 to 30. Mega cap. Whatever number he said you were going to say that.

Yeah, no matter of what I said you were going to. That was a premeditated mega cap. P.B. and J's, though, that's pretty high. What about how many times you've said a curse word? Yeah. Like just a random one, like the or like. That would go crazy. That would go crazy.

Or um. We just, pop it out. No, I just keep, I keep, I keep, I keep,

you guys keep delivering one and all I do is think off of that one. There's no original thought coming to my head right now. As is life. How many original thoughts you've ever had? Zero. What about you, G? What about you,

Jack? Maybe like, I wanted to do how many concerts, but that seemed just like a pretty standard number. But maybe like how many minutes of music you listen to or how many songs you listen to in your life? how many dollars you've gambled in your life overall now when you say uh are you talking like when you put money out just on the table or the money you've amassed the whole time money out

the table how much you think you've done in the last year yeah i mean that's basically your gambling career yeah i bet it's up there it might be seven figures because other than that you just do kind of like definitely has like the boys trips where you're just you know you're ready to lose a certain amount of money. So you're there until it happens. Yeah. Yeah. And also like if you think about just playing, like when Jack and I go to Vegas, we'll be sitting at the table for probably 10 hours.

Some days. Some days. And you're just sitting there, Ben, an easy day. You win one, you lose one. Let's say you bet $100. That's $200 right there. Yeah. Yeah, I'd say, yeah, it's got probably seven figures. In the last year. Yeah. I mean, because you've won that much.

Ooh, that's a good one. how many miles you've ran mine would be low well I think about the football games you've played your whole life and you're running at those times now that you say that what about how much weight you've lifted

as a combined total overall that's a good one man his in comments so what's the way that you'd want to know good question good question good job Benjamin thank God Benjamin

thank God for Benny shout out no free shout out you guys got some we shall jp can get off brother i got to pee all right my shout out no free shout out it's funny because win had her moment but i went to the preds game on friday and there's nothing better than the fan cam when it gets on to people i feel like it's the most genuine form of happiness that you see just see from everyone the camera gets on a little kid their face lights up they go crazy it goes on an adult they light up even the ones that don't like it they still smile because deep down they do like it yeah and so it's like hey let your inner kid out let it out don't be too

cool for school yeah so the fan cam and it hits at every sporting event so shout out to the fan cam shout out to the fan cam Mitch you got one uh so this weekend I was moving like I said earlier with um so like thank you for let me use your truck again but also my shout out no for is when you finally do move and you're done with the process and like you have everything settled like that feeling of like all right this is my place now and like you're all that stress of moving all of your shit is just done all right this is it this is my new my where I live where I habitate now so that I can't I'm looking forward to that feeling does that oh you're looking forward to I was going to say does that happen quick for you because sometimes I'm like what there's

there's other stuff that's not done that We still got to figure out that small. Yeah, I mean, I got a bunch of small stuff, like, left. Like, I enjoy moving to, like, being in a different spot, but the process of moving all your shit, I hate that. I mean, I'm sure everybody feels that way. Everybody hates that shit. But, like, I'm looking forward to being like, all right, this is my, this is why I live now.

Did you throw away a lot of stuff? I got rid of a lot of clothes. And I, like, the stuff that's still in my apartment now is just ran, literally just random shit. So I just, like, trying to get rid of some of that stuff because foul is already done moving. He doesn't have a lot of stuff. And it makes me feel like I'm a hoarder because I have a shit ton of stuff.

Let it go, man. I think it's a benefit, too, of, like, moving is you just start getting rid of a lot of stuff that you've been meaning to for the longest time you just never have. Yeah, so that's what I'm doing. My shout-out of a shout-out goes to, I guess, winning the approval of your friend's parents.

Yeah, I had friends. parents in town this weekend. And they're here for the marathon. One of my friend, Sydney, ran it. And so two sets of parents are in town. And you have that, like, first meeting where it's like, you don't know how the interaction is going to go. If they're cool, if they're going to approve of you, especially when you have, like,

tattoos and stuff, you like, meet the dad. And you're like, I got a nose ring, but, you know, I say yes, sir, that type of mentality. And so we saw them a handful of times over the weekend. And by the end of it, it felt like we were all just, like, good friends. And we're just having a blast together. shout out to the chances and the Warshishashevskis. So it's fun when you kind of like find a little bonding point between the parents and

your friends. You've never met them before. So I always like that. Love that. Do you got one, brother? Yeah, I got one. It's going to be a shout out to when you can successfully stick it to the man. I recently had to battle my current landlord over a situation where they're asking us to

move out sooner than our leases. So I kind of share some of those stresses, but eventually got my way by putting my foot down. Oh. And I will be able to pay movers. So sorry, Mitch. I don't have those stresses. But yeah, shout out to when you can just kind of dish it back to somebody who's trying to take advantage of you. Now, was it like a confrontational put your foot down? Or you were methodically. I, you guys would be proud. I handled this one perfect. Because I'm saying a frustrated G is not a G you want to be in a conversation. Handled it like you handled that override back from Alabama. Back to the hotel. Yeah. Why don't you tell the people about that when I'm done? I will. Um, no. So, long story short,

living in this house, I understand that by the end of the lease, there is a chance that they're going to want to sell the house. They call me in March to tell me that they're, that they're not going to renew the lease. That's fine. My lease is through the end of August. They call me April 1st to tell me they need me out by the end of May. So then I try to explain the inconvenience they're putting me in and that I would like the security deposit back in full guaranteed. And they're giving like the whole, well, if the house is in the right thing, I'll say, well, then I'll stay till the end of my lease. They're like, well, we really need to hit this window to sell. It's like, I trust me, I get what you need. But you need to play ball with me a little bit.

was very even kill they what they did not want to have anything in writing and so that helped me not you know get too intense in the conversation um are they paying for your movers yeah nice yeah and you're getting the deposit back yeah nice yeah let's well done gee stick it to the man neosis yeah bro solid yeah it's gonna go you win all around oh yeah i would send them something And they'd be like, can you call me? I was like, no. Like, I know what, if I did call them, I was like, hey, I need you to respond in writing. Right, right.

But we got it done. I'm excited. Well, I don't want to oversell this shot. It's a very simple one. But it happened when we were in Chicago because obviously we get back to our rooms around 11. We got to wake up for an early flight. But my shoutout, no free shot out goes to when your room is close to the elevator. It's in room 814, literally.

Right when I get off the elevator, it's right there. And obviously it only takes like a minute or two to walk to your room. But when you're walking long lengths, you're just thinking like you go down one hallway, you're around the corner, go down another one. You see that your room is down another corner. It's just like, God, you got to make a trip down to the elevator. But when your room is right there by the elevator, the convenience factor of leaving your room popping right on the elevator. And then when you get back, you're right to your room, getting to bed as fast as you can.

It's a simple luxury. It's a simple luxury. Yeah. Time. Yeah. All day you can't get back. Yeah, man. So shout out.

No free shoutout to your room being close to the elevator. Hell yes. My shoutout's going to be, obviously, I got to go to win and yesterday. But it's really about when I picked her up and the big smile on her face that she, like, truly have her having a core memory. My shoutout goes to core memories. Yeah. And having good ones with your old man. And that is, it was the best, dude.

It was truly the best. And that's my shout out, no free shout out. That's awesome. That's a wholesome. It's a wholesome shot. I have one that I think all of us will agree. but shout out to clump yeah it's been an absolute grinder for us one of our social media guys one of our social media producers uh jeremy clump he has accepted a job with yahoo sports so we were

fired up for him um just an absolute grinder this dude we were like his we were his fourth job yeah he had a full-time job two kind of contracted out jobs well three with ours and has just warped his dick off lost 100 pounds over the last year and he's now catching a break and getting a big time opportunity with yahoo sports so shout out jeremy clump man he's an absolute soldier dude from day one to how long has he been with us three two years uh i think two two football seasons two football seasons the last time i even saw clump in person was at beer olympics beer limel him last year yeah yeah and but dude the dude is just constantly grinding getting after and he's getting paid the way he deserves to get paid we're going to miss them but man what a stud yeah yeah shut out r i p love you clump

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it is a game changer. On the, what we can get to our interview. We had a, we got to sit, we got to go to the University of Alabama last week. If you guys haven't watched already, we had Tyler Bookeran, who's an offensive tackle for Alabama. We had on Jalen Milrow, who's the quarterback for Alabama. And we got to also sit with Coach DeBoer, who came from Washington,

and we talked with him about succeeding, obviously, arguably the greatest college football coach of all time and Nick Sabin. We talk a lot about his transition from Washington, going from that national title loss to getting the job with Alabama. Some of the culture wrinkles he's bringing in Alabama, I can already foresee a headline coming out about, you know,

hey, they're playing music now. They seem a little bit more loose at Alabama as the culture. You can see some stuff already being created out of that. But he talks about some of the new things that he's bringing in Alabama. What got him the job, succeeding Nick Saban. And, you know, in those interviews with the players, we asked them about how it's been in Springball with Coach DeBoer. So check those out.

You guys are going to love this conversation with Coach DeBoar. He was all time with the boys. But yeah, man, and shout out to the University of Alabama for letting us in. I know that we tried for a couple times, and usually it's a very, it's a tough place to get in. So we thank you guys for allowing us to see your facilities. A plus all around, like you guys crushed it. You guys, Tyler Booker gave us a tour. It was incredible.

Again, you guys are going to enjoy this interview. Oh, yeah, so without further ado, big hugs, tiny kisses. Make sure Alabama fans, if you were new here, make sure you're subscribed to the boys, leave comments throughout the episode. But yeah, Coach DeBoer. Looking for an assist with your credit card but can't get a hold of anyone. Luckily, with 24-7 U.S.-based live customer service from Discover, everyone has the option to talk to a real person any time day or night. Yes, you heard that right.

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Yeah, man, you need some dad gear? You want some dad gear? It's just like our, it's just like our, it's just like, I mean, I'm new, I'm still, so I'm sure it was something with the. When Will and I met, there's been a couple of dad things. Like some of my son. Oh, I guess what's, I'm starting? Yeah, if you get some good content.

Look at Delaney, directed over here. Let's go with Delaney. So the dad hat, there's been like a couple, like the, when I've signed a contract with the Titans, I like wore this boss hog outfit all white and I said daddy's here and so like a couple people in Nashville were calling me dad for a little bit and then when Will and I met that's how that's the origin story of the dad merch that's how it's starting that's how I'm telling this story how it's and then uh when this story origin stories my first time here the the dad you remember that right delaney that's right me yeah I love that I know that I know that is I know that is I know that is

a moment in time. It was a moment in time that I think of myself when I look at the dad hats. I think, wow, I really did that. Yeah. Yeah. And so when Will and I first met, I had a very young daughter and then the bean. The bean. And then now I have two kids. Will's got a daughter. So we came out dad hats, man. Because it's a, it's a culture. People don't know it. There's all these dumb jokes about will people know because they have dogs. You don't understand what it's like to have a kid to you actually have a kid. So it's like a nice little group. It is the best. Yeah. You're more than willing to be in the group if you want. We'll send you a couple of hats. I'm all in.

I'm all in. I got two girls. Girl dad. Perfect. We have Girl Dad merch. There we go. We'll get you hooked up. When you were, let's actually, by the way, Derek's calling me back right now.

Yeah. I wanted to make sure because Jack did video that. Taylor had a tough loss. Derek was texting and Taylor tried FaceTime and then he didn't answer Taylor's phone call, but he's responding and texting back and forth the whole time while Taylor's trying to call. Seven years, teammates. Seven years. Yeah.

I tried to pot it off. He's at OTA. trying to get his raven friends. Yeah. And stuff like that. What do you want to start? Oh, I want to start with your two daughters. When you had two girls, did you think maybe one more I'll go for a boy?

No. Honestly, no. I think once we got the younger one, I think we were all good. Certainly would have been fine with boys and looking back on it, though. And now being a football coach, I think it's actually a blessing, you know, having no pressure on any boy and having to play football and just enjoying who they are. And, you know, man, they love the game and they love being around the team and all that kind of stuff. And they both are of totally different personalities and totally different likes, interests,

but it's awesome being a girl dad. Were you, like myself, I was let down when I saw the pink come from the cake that we were having a girl. Oh, hey, not only we... That's true. No, he came, his wife came in with a cake at the bus. And when he saw that color, it was... There was no hiding it. It was true disappointment.

There was no doubt that I was going to get. It's going to be awesome. You're going to love it. But as an athlete, which I can't wait to ask you about because you were a stud at Sioux Falls, were you hopeful for the first kid? Were you hopeful that it was a boy? I honestly didn't have feelings one way or another. I really didn't.

Better man than me. Very politically correct answer. Strong, well-thought-out answer. He's not going to make anybody mad with that one. I think it was meant to be. That's the way I look at it. You have a few records coming up as a wide receiver. Do you keep a highlight tape close by just to let the boys know that you can dabble,

that you can dabble with the best of them? No, I don't. It's nothing like what these guys are here at this level. They would turn that on and have a few laughs. So I'm proud of what we did as a team, but that level was a little different. Record in yards, receptions, touchdowns? Stud. You played some semi-pro ball as well?

Yeah. What, as you were going through, as you were, as an athlete, going to the semi-pro ball route in that moment in time, are you sitting there, you're trying to gather tape to try to get to the next level or after you had a couple of years, you're like, okay, I just, I need to start making a pivot going into the next thing. Yeah, are you talking to football piece? Yeah, football piece. Yeah, from, from with the football, it was just, you know, indoor football there in Sioux

Falls, enjoyed a couple of years kind of right there at home. And I was already on into coaching high school ball. and kind of onto those type of things while I was playing. So, you know, that was just kind of a side hobby to be honest with you during those two years and got into the college coaching there at University of Sioux Falls and then kind of had to put everything else on on the back burner and move on with the career. Obviously, like coaching, you've done an amazing job. You're at one of the most prestigious universities of all time, but playing and realizing that,

okay, this is, the road's coming to an end of my playing career. Like, how was that transition for you? I know you were coaching already, but was there ever that point where you're like identity crisis or anything like that? No, I don't think it was at that level. I enjoyed the relationships. I enjoyed the friends. I knew that there was definitely a ceiling, and I had probably maxed out that ceiling as a football player myself. And so, you know, great times, but it was time to move on.

Yeah. Proud, though. You've been wildly successful as a head coach. And the NAA ranks three national titles. I think you were 65 and three as a head coach with Walsh. I mean, a two-time coach of the year. I think it was 25 and three with Washington. What do you feel like you've cultivated, whether it's values, philosophies, over the years to have that much, to have this much success? I always go back to when I was a player at Sioux Falls. We were two and eight my freshman year and we were 14 and no and National Champs my senior year.

And I knew what the culture looked like, what it felt like as a player the first year and also what it took to get there over those four years. And I always just remember that. And it was the relationships. It was the, you know, just the consistency. We got from the people that were in the building or on the team and just the work that it put in. And so it was fun, which allowed, you know, and I enjoyed the process, which, you know, I think our entire team did. And so I try to make that what we have here, you know, and wherever I've been. Try to make an environment or facilitate an atmosphere that's full of energy.

you know, that, you know, you can find the driven people, let them go do their thing, whether it's coaches or players, and they enjoy each and every moment. They enjoy each, you know, everyone that's a part of it. And just let's go have some fun. Let's cut it loose. Let's make the most of every opportunity we get. Turning back to your success at Washington, you were the only coach to go 11 or more wins in consecutive years.

And then you get the call from the Crimson Tide. You just competed for a national championship. What was your thought process when that first? phone call did come. Yeah, that was the timing of everything, I think, is what really makes it extra hard through all of this because my time at Washington is going to be, for me and my family, probably the best time of our life. You know, those two years there and the way we were embraced from the community aspect to

the team to just how much fun it was working with our staff. It was a special time that I know we all are going to cherish forever as a family and individually as well. But, you know, just the opportunity to come here to Alabama, knowing this program and what the history was all about and getting a chance to meet Greg Byrne and just really hearing the vision, understanding the interests and how excited he'd be to have, you know, me leading the football program. That meant a lot. And, you know, got a chance maybe over 24 hours to do a little bit of just kind of investigating and kind of really thinking it through and talking to a couple people that I'm close with. but it just felt like, you know, this is something that was too good of an opportunity.

And it's just been an awesome experience here these first three to four months. Is that how quickly you had to make that decision was 24 hours? Yeah, I mean, I pretty much had to make the decision if I was offered the job. Yeah. That's really how it comes down to, you know. And, you know, and I understand why, you know, in the, just the environment we're in, college football, the timing of it. You know, we're talking the middle of January.

retaining a roster. I just, the urgency that it needed to be to keep the program moving forward, I completely understood why, you know, Greg Byrne told the team, you know, give me 72 hours, you know, and, you know, that was, that urgency. If I was going to be the football coach, I knew getting down here and being around these guys and just being nonstop and trying to build these relationships and keep things together the first two weeks while I was here. while I'm building the staff was going to be critical for our immediate and long-term future.

Were there nerves involved in the interview process? You have your success of Washington. You're going after this Alabama job. There's always that kid in us that's like you go to the next stage, you go to the next thing. Were there any nerves involved in going after this job? No, not at all because I had a great place where I was at. Really, it was more about making sure that this was going to be a good fit, that this is going to be a place I could see myself being successful.

and, you know, people that I was going to be enjoying the journey with, you know, from Greg Byrne to, to others here in the athletic department at the university. So, in all honesty, no, because I was at a great place. And so, you know, it was just a matter of really thinking it through. And, you know, I think the piece that I truly try to make sure of was I wasn't getting caught up in the emotions of the ups and downs of what we had just been through with the season and trying to really take a step back in a short amount of time and have some perspective on everything. because, you know, we had had such an amazing year. And, you know, on a Monday night in a national championship, you know, the wins taken out of your sales. And, you know, you're trying to support your team and your staff. But, you know, I just wanted to make sure I didn't caught up in that.

And, you know, taking a step back as much as I could in the moment was important. You've obviously had a lot of experience being an athlete yourself, you know, you set records, you go to the NAA, you win national titles there, you uptick into Division 1 college football realm, you win a Pac-12 title, you take a team to a national championship. In sports, like as athletes, coaches, everybody in the performance world, you're always, you know, you're moving up the ladder. You're coming in to succeed somebody like arguably the greatest coach of all time in Nick Sabin. How has your experience moving up, you know, in your journey helped you kind of not see these

expectations, you come into a seat like Alabama and succeeding Nick Saban. Is there anything with that that you think about? Well, I think my journey in general is just something I'm super proud of because I've always focused on just where I'm at. And really, it's never been about getting to an Alabama or it was never even about getting even to a Washington or Fresno State. I mean, go on and on. It was about just coaching ball, loving the moment we're in, you know, raising a family and doing it with other people that had the same like-minded interest as I had in all those areas, both football and family. And so just enjoying that journey, enjoying that ride.

But I think coming here, I just can't say enough about, again, being embraced by the community. You know, Coach Saban, he's so respectful and how he's trying to handle and he wants to see the program. You can just tell he wants it to be great. He wants it to continue to go this direction and us continue to build on all the things he's put in place. And so he's almost been over the top respectful,

trying to keep that distance. And I want him to always know that, hey, this is our program because everyone who ever set foot in these buildings, and that's alumni, that's former staff members, everyone who made this place great, are always going to feel, I want them to be a part of it. When you play with other Alabama players, it's like they've taken a drug or something like that.

They're so obsessed with Alabama, truly. Like, there's literally times I walk into the cafeteria and Roshan Evans and Derek Henry are just pointing people, you lost to Alabama, you lost Alabama. A lot of pride, yes. They truly have, like, of any other team, the most school pride of ever seen anybody else.

And so now, like Will just said, you're taking over for a guy that is arguably, probably the greatest college football coach of all time. You're walking into a room where guys, when they commit to this school, they're expecting to win national championships, They don't argue about how many games they win. They argue about how many national championships they went.

Oh, you only got two. I got three. Which class was better? Yeah. Which class was better? Was there any point for you where you sit down? You sit in the nice chair that Nick Sabin once sat in and you go, oh fuck. Like this is, this is, I mean, it is, there's got to be a level of like, this is a lot of responsibility.

And you're walking into a room of these guys signed up to be coached by Nick Sabin. And now you have come in, you're like, we're going to run this. this is going to be our offense and keeping these kids around, especially with NIL, there's got to be a lot of tremendous, you know, pressure on that. Yeah, I mean, you know, you know what you signed up for. And I guess it just always goes back to everyone's human. And I think that being around these guys, you understand the reasons why they came here into this program. And it's Alabama football. It has a lot to do with Coach Sabin, you know, the guys in their commitments to be in here. But they are just so proud of this program. And they want to be the ones that carry on the legacy of

this place. It's been fun being around the alumni that do have that pride. I feel that. And it's, you know, it's not an ego thing. It's pride, you know. And these guys that are in this program that chose to stay here over the last couple months, they believe in this place and they know what we can accomplish. I have an appreciation that they understand that it's really about them and them sticking together. And the ones that stayed, man, they are, they are resilient. They're hard-headed in some ways because they, man, like, we got to win a championship. We got to chip on our shoulder. And, you know, people think we're going to fall off because of the transition and all that.

So it's been fun locking arms with them and, you know, helping them realize their goals and the reasons that they came here and help us through and make this progress. Jalen Milro was quoted by saying you proved that you were the right man for the job every single day during spring ball. What has your relationship been like with him? He's been special. He just has a heart of gold. He wants it so bad, both personally and also for this program. He takes on the responsibilities of being the quarterback at Alabama with such grace. He's there for others. He's willing to give as much as he can. Sometimes I'm just always checking in with him to make sure he's good because he gets pulled in a lot of different directions. But in the end, he loves getting out there. He loves the game of football. I mean, we've talked about that a number of times. He just loves everything that surrounds it from the teamwork and the leadership that is asked of him to, you know, just working on the daily skills. He loves the film. He just loves so much about the game itself. And, you know, it's fun being around guys that are willing to put in all the things and make the sacrifices needed to go be great.

When you walk into the team meeting room for the first time, what was your message to the team when you first took the job? That's a great question. Yeah, that was a Friday night. And I knew that this was a group that had been through a lot just in the past couple of days. You know, I don't remember exactly what that message was. It was a whirlwind for me and my family as well just a few hours earlier, you know, I pretty much been off for the job, you know, been through my emotions with in regard to, you know, everything of Washington.

So certainly I hadn't even come close to getting through that. But knew that the team just needed to hear that I was excited. about you know joining them meeting them where they're at and getting to know them and appreciated their patience because with all the noise that was around the program and and all the noise that they were probably hearing individually and you know being pulled in different places and going different different directions they just you know their belief in Alabama was something you could tell and feel right away and there's there's a connection with a few of the guys and I think those guys quickly just, you know, held the team in place.

There were some staff members here that did a great job. But, you know, that was a meeting, I think, just to get in there and tell them, you know, how excited I was to be a part of this special place. I have another one. Do you? I was just, I wanted to ask him about his very first phone call when he heard that he got the job. Yeah, I mean, I felt like it was. kind of going in that direction so it wasn't necessarily a surprise but it was uh you know i think it was

just more about being honored to to you know to have that responsibility to be the head coach here um it's just something again i won't take lightly and um you know had thought through you know the night before just if this opportunity came up working just talking through with my family you know um you know what that would all mean and uh you know the moving and the life changes and and stuff that we'd be going through. So, but from a program standpoint, it's just such an honor and a privilege. I want to talk about the big dogs for a second. The hogs.

How has it been for them transitioning in this offense? Because they obviously ran a lot of zone read with Jalen in the backfield last year, but it seems like you guys, from what I was told in the small little snippet, is you guys are going more zone, outside zone type stuff. How have they been picking that up? Because for me, transitioning from like a duo gap scheme type offense into like the zone was like, at one point I wanted to quit. I was like, this is horrendous.

And then quickly, I was like, this might be the best offense you can possibly be in. How have they handled that transition? I think it's been great. I think that really it's not that far off from what they would did before. It's just a matter of where your tendencies, where your priorities, you know, how many reps you're practicing a certain concept versus another compared to how they did it before. We certainly got to use Jalen's skill set and, you know, have him be a threat with the ball. as much as possible.

And so, you know, I don't feel like there's as many changes that maybe, you know, some of the guys. I think, you know, it's been seamless. Coach Cap has done a great job. He's well versed in all the schemes that we've done before, as well as being able to help the guys translate things, you know, that they had done technically, you know, language-wise in our offense. Just that translation, he's super, super sharp.

And, you know, his relationship with these guys, you can see it coming out as the spring's gone on. and just how much better they got from practice one to practice 15. I think it's probably the position group that if I had to pick one or two, they would certainly be in that mix as far as the improvements that they've shown here in the spring. When you're looking at, when you're recruiting guys, like everybody's got all the tangible things, the surface level things, what are some intangibles or some values or character things that you look for

like when you're recruiting guys to a place like Alabama? Yeah, I think there's, you know, you know, Toughness is always going to be something that I think is just critical of what doesn't matter where you're, I think the game was meant to be played that way. The championship teams have that mental toughness, that physical toughness that you have to have. But I think there's also the discipline, accountability along with just, you know, a personality that's kind of like a wide eye, just excited to learn, excited to grow, just feel like they haven't arrived and that there's a, there's not a ceiling that they're looking at and they're far from it. if they think there is. And so it's just a matter of, you know, growth mindset.

And, you know, guys who want to come in here and be a part of something, not just, you know, it's all about me. And, you know, so we always talk about in terms of our non-negotiables, being family, accountable, and toughness. And so, you know, I think a hit on all three of those. And just doing it the right way, doing it with class, integrity. And also, you know, while you're here, making sure we get that degree as well. A couple fun questions.

You got a couple? I got a couple fun ones. Okay. Give them a couple. Oh, hang on. Let me go one more. Serious boy? I might pick up one too.

Okay. What traditions of Alabama do you, that you've learned about that you're keeping and keeping part of the program and what are some things culture-wise, tradition-wise, do you feel like you're bringing to Alabama? That's a great question. And I think that everything, I don't want to say every day I learn something, but I think, you know, there's a there's been many times you're like okay i think i got this under i think i understand this i understand that you know what's important um what's been done for decades what's been done just maybe

over the last year you know and and understanding uh this was this sounds like something they really like but is it really a tradition you know and so um you know just i think guys just the pride they have in some of the simple things uh you know how they look and you know how we practice and you know tucking shirts in and for workouts and practice. I mean, those are just things that, just the pride of the place that come out. Obviously, there's the walk, you know, that we had and that's special. And, you know, seeing those guys do that, 8A was really cool. But, you know, the fourth quarter program is something these guys just really believe in. And so a lot of these traditions are things that just are, they're so accustomed to. And I could go on and on. But,

you know, keeping some of those things and still bringing in the things that I think have been good if it adds to our culture. And it's something that, you know, the guys might enjoy. You know, we're going to balance that between, you know, hey, these are really important aspects of Alabama football. And these are some of the things that have worked for me. And, you know, I'm not married to a lot of things. But I think it's more about the feel and the energy and what can we bring to,

to add to what's already here. Did I read something about Thunderstruck? Yeah, that's with the out on game day, you know, the walk. Is that you or is that a Bama thing? That's Bama, that's Bama. I mean, that goes, that goes hard. Thunderstruck goes hard. It is a good song.

Yeah. It's a classic football song. Yeah. What's a core value, not a core value, but what is like a non-negotiable thing that you brought with you to Alabama as far as a culture deal? This is how we're going to go about business. Honestly, there's, I mean, there's probably, the guys would probably, the guys would probably say there's a lot of things.

You know. What would the players say something that's, something, a wrinkle that's been thrown in? You know, well, actually, I can't think of something. The one that made some waves early in the spring was, you know, we play music and practice. You know, so that was something that had been done before. So not that I feel like you have to, but I think there's a lot of benefits that can come from it, you know, trying to, you know, well, first of all, the juice and energy, the vibe that can, it can create, but also I think there's ways you can utilize it for even, you know, distractions. Right. You know,

and so, you know, there's a lot of distractions on game day, right? Yeah. 100,000 people. There's music playing in the stadium. And so I think there's a lot of things we actually, and I tell these guys, I'm intentional on telling them the things that maybe I'm trying to do someday when I feel like they're even super locked in, you know, just cranking it up a little bit louder to see if, uh, see if they can work through that and, uh, you know, listen a little harder, um, you know, communicate a little better, you know, hand signals and stuff. You know, you always practice noise stuff, uh, you know, throughout the week, especially, you know, home and away, depending if you're offense and defense. But, uh, you know, those are just some

of the things that I think are, our benefits of that. Um, that was something that hit, uh, I know, the waves a little bit. Yeah. Our guys, our guys enjoyed it, you know, and enjoyed it. And again, it's been a positive. As players, I think we can all agree. The music is the both. The music is the music. Are you taking requests or is this a set playlist? We're not messing with that.

There's, we have specific people and it's been transferred on. Robbie, my guy from Washington, he started it. And I'm like, you know, we got to have the clean versions. We got to have the, you know, all that. We got fans. We got people. We got media. We got around practice.

But, you know, you know, that. And I think he's kind of pushed it on. And so they'll certainly take requests. Yeah. And at some point, I'm sure they'll get to themes of the day or themes of the week and, and so forth. So you had mentioned something about tucked in shirts and basically details of how you operate around the facility on the practice field and everything else.

Do you feel like you got those, you feel like you had some of those ideas when you talk all the way back to, I was on a two and eight team losing team. And then I was part of a national championship team when you played, like how those locker rooms look differently and what it takes to win. even if they, hey, I might sound ridiculous saying you have to have your tucked in shirt, but there's a way, I promise you, if you just trust me, these are the things that it takes over and over consistently to get to the top. You got to think Sabin's a tucked in shirt guy.

Got to. Yeah, and it's great. Nothing's changed. But being a part, I mean, we've all been a part of bad locker rooms. We've been a part of good locker rooms and what good culture looks like and bad culture looks like. We weren't a lot of heavy earrings. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I think, I think is what all these things, whenever you're talking about, you know, those type of, you call it non-negotiables or whatever they are, I think it always goes back to pride in who we are and that you're willing to be a part of a team. And it's not a sacrifice, but man, looking good for us is important. And this is one of the things that we think is about looking good and looking unified and looking the way you're supposed to when you're representing Alabama, you know, whether it's in the weight room, whether it's on the practice field or on game day. You know, and so, you know, what what your facility looks like and are you picking up after yourself, those are just like, those are classy things you should do as just a human being.

Right. And it shows that, you know, the simple things, we're not going to overlook those and just be out there and focus just on the football part. And, you know, I know many programs and many people have said this same thing. And I truly believe it, how you do anything is how you do everything. And those things right there and how you treat people. We're on the road. I have no doubt that these guys are going to, you know, travel well, you know, represent themselves in our program in a first class way, home way, wherever they're at on their own. Doesn't have to just be when we're together as a team.

But those values come out in those type of actions and those type of things that you feel are important to your program. How you do anything is how you do everything. It's a phenomenal quote. Phenomenal. You want some good fun questions? I'm excited to hear when he's, yeah. I'm excited to hear phone questions. Yeah? Well, I just don't want to...

I mean, I'm nervous, too. When you say you're nervous about... That makes three of us right now. Yeah. Just got passed down the line. Now the... The awkward silence is really important now. There's just playing everything out of the...

Yeah, because I got to... Because I don't want to be... I'm not going to be nasty, but I want to... I want to talk about... I do want to talk about Michigan a little bit if that's okay. But you've said there's pain there. And I don't want to go in a direction that this... This has been a fun interview.

It's been a good time. And I just don't want to ruin the interview. So I'll pivot. Please don't ruin this. I'll pivot. And we'll just talk about the SEC for a second. All right. A lot of bad dogs out here.

A lot of strong dogs out here. A lot of strong head coaches. If it really came down to it and you had to fight these head coaches, do you think you're losing to any of the head coaches? Man, I'm not even going there. I'm not going there. We won't do any of it. I'm smart enough. That's smart.

Didn't work. You pick one. I mean, they can go a different, I was thinking who's a head coach and this, you know, out of respect for the head coach, like who's a head coach you would love to obviously win the game, but you're, you've obviously competed in your own journey to get to, you know, Washington. Maybe it happened in Washington. Maybe it hasn't happened yet.

But that you would, you know, love to be across the sideline on. You kind of pinch yourself like, yo, I'm coaching against so-and-so. Yeah, I think a lot of those coaches are here. And I guess I even just. going back, you know, the last two years. It has so much respect for, you know, these coaches that have been doing it for many years, the coordinators working their way up, just very similar to the journey I've been on. And so I've stolen a lot of stuff, just like every coach does from everyone. We've watched the film. We've watched the, you know, cutups in the offseason.

And so, you know, you learn how, you learn what to do, you know, maybe not what to, what not to do sometimes, you know, as far as like handling your team, you know, publicly, socially and all that. So there's a lot of these just pretty much the coaches in this conference that have nothing but respect for. And, you know, I know that every Saturday, you know, you got to be at your best. And that's how it is, I think, at Alabama anyway. Everyone's going to bring their A game. You know, we've had conversations about rivalries and we've had a lot of teams and people that I know. they felt like Alabama was their rival, you know, just because, you know, it was such a big game each and every time that game was played. So I'm excited about, you know, lining up and, you know,

being challenged to be my best each and every week against all these coaches. Is there a coach that as you're progressing through your learning curve as an offensive coordinator or a head coach, whether it's a mentor or a coach out there that kind of jumped out at you when you're learning about situational ball and how to, you know, if you saw somebody else in a one way, you kind of dove into their tape all season long. They kind of helped you along the way. I think, you know, there's been coaches, especially when I was a coordinator. And after I'd been a head coach for five years at small college, and, you know,

I think about the leadership aspect and how, you know, Chris Creighton at Eastern Michigan was just, you know, I just learned so much on how bringing a team together happened there. I think about Jeff Tedford and how, you know, they were one in 11 before we got there. And it was, you know, we're not going to, we're going to take our guys and we're going to maximize what they can be. And the next year, you know, you're 10 and 4 and then 12 and 2 and really had nothing to do with bringing a bunch of portal guys in. It was taking who you had right there, believing in them, putting some structure and organization together. Some, you know, offensively I learned a lot, you know, during those two years there. And then, you know, Indiana, you know, being thrown in the mix there with, you know, just.

being part of the Big Ten and being challenged to be your best at the Power Five level. And so, you know, Tom Allen, you know, so, you know, he's just the passion he brought out, stuck with me, you know, and how he dove into the relationships with the guys. And so there is something at every place along the way. I think it's a lot of times the people you work with each and every day, the position coaches that I continue to learn from. I'm learning from something from our coaches right now, you know, hired amazing staff. And to me, that's the key, is never stop learn and never stop growing. Is that about your staff? Nick Sheridan. He and I played together in college. What have you seen

from him? From who? Sheridan? Yeah, oh, Nick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What have you seen from Nick? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, what have you seen from him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's, like, seen from him, like, seen from him to make him the man for the job to be the OC. Yeah, well, first of all, working backwards, he's done an amazing job this spring, um, just pulling everything together. Um, he's, he's more than ready for this opportunity. Um, you know, the, the, cool thing about him is that he he was patient you know there's opportunities he certainly could have had over the last couple of years you know because he is someone who is known as a very bright mind understands the game on another level

but we had a chance to work together in 2019 at Indiana and he you know from a from an ego standpoint or just an unselfish standpoint move from quarterbacks to tight ends and you know for me to come in and coach quarterbacks which I feel is a big piece of being an offensive coordinator, being in that room every day. You know, but learning and working with him, I remember just thinking how bright he was for considering, you know, his age

and how many years he had actually been at a high level of football already at that time. Then two more years at Washington, you know, where, again, he's just right there, you know, brings a lot of ideas, brings a lot of just game planning thoughts, helping you pull everything together. It's details, but it's also a big picture, all mixed in one. And then he's just such a great relationship builder. He's got great personality guys, I think,

enjoy being around him. He leads in a way where he's firm, you know, he's got his things that he feels strong about, but he also, you know, enjoys, enjoys, you know, just the camaraderie, and enjoys working together with the staff, and he's done an awesome job, having the entire staff all feel a part of it, you know, and that's, I think, been a big part of my success over the years is having, you know, the strengths of everyone and tapping into their strengths, you know, be why we were successful, whether it's offensively or as a full team. With guys that are working under you and you become such a cohesive group, especially with all the success that you've had, guys are eventually going to leave. They're going to go

to, you know, fine, they're going to elevate themselves and try to become head coaches just like you. When you see yourself having the success you did at Washington and inevitably will have here, do you keep something in the back of your head? Be like, all right, if this guy goes and I have these two guys in my head, is there always a constant game plan of a depth chart of who you would want to fill those spots? Well, in a way, it kind of happened here already. You know, Ryan Grubb was the offensive coordinator, you know,

Washington with us and coming here and then I got the opportunity to be with the Seattle Seahawks. And, you know, there are guys that I would love, you know, I'm strong on trying to keep the continuity of your system. Of course, the people is where it all starts. but the continuity of the system. And I know offensively, that continuity of our system will always exist because it's the system that,

you know, we've built over many years now. But both sides of the ball, there certainly is a method. And I've done this at Fresno, did this at Fresno State, did this at Washington, where there's some depth to our staff. Many guys who have called games as coordinators at the Power 5 level on both sides of the ball. both sides of the ball, guys who, you know, are just low ego willing to come in, be part of it right now.

And, you know, again, I hope we are so successful to where those opportunities come up for our staff. You know, that's how I got to the place where I'm at. And, you know, I'd be pretty hypocritical if I didn't say that if I didn't want to root for these guys to get their opportunity someday as well. Do you have a favorite postgame ritual after a win, whether it's a post game, like I always love to post. game cigar, post game beer, post game milkshick, post game burger. Big sandwich. Something with the family. Yeah. Maybe indulge on a meal.

Yeah, it's always with the family. It's always, and, you know, you play day games, you play night games, so it's never the same. But, you know, it's always with the family, you know, and if it's a day game, you'd love to have the staff over. And I think that's one thing I'm excited about here is just proximity and where we're all going to be living. You know, when you have that time, just continue to grow our. group together. I'm really excited about that. But, you know, I think you just get, you're so exhausted usually from a game and the things that go into it. Winning a football game at the college level is hard. I don't care where you're at. It takes everything and, you know,

enjoying it for that little moment before you flip the set Sunday morning and started all over again. I think that's a big part of the process. So trying to take a deep breath and just enjoying and what happened that day after a win is a big part of, I think, the process. I think we'd feel good, man. That was awesome. That was awesome. I appreciate you guys coming. Yeah, man.

All over the country and really appreciate you guys coming to see us. Yeah. I mean, I was nervous about being here. Yeah. I mean, you walk in the door and you look at a bunch of rings and watches. Just immediately. From just 1A.D. And you're like, oh, my God.

We're in the presence of greatness. Yeah. You're in the mecca. But thank you very much. Everybody's been awesome to us. And thank you for this interview. it's been incredible. We really do appreciate it.

I mean, I appreciate that respect because I know where you guys playing too. You know, and that says a lot about you guys. So thanks for coming and coming to join us. Yes, sir. Absolutely. Coach, thank you, man. And we'll hook you up with dad. We'll hook you up with some dad.

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