Bussin' With The Boys - Kenny Dillingham On Why Arizona State Is On The Rise + What Makes Him Different Than Other Head Coaches

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

Recorded: April 15th 2023 | In this episode of our Arizona State spring tour, we sat down with head coach, Kenny Dillingham. Coach talks about what made him think of the idea to have Will and Taylor as head coaches for the spring game. He dives into how he has to creative and innovative when it comes to recruiting tactics to let 5-star recruits know that it is okay to go to ASU. Dillingham talks about his start in coaching and how is now assistant head coach, Charlie Ragle, got him into it all. Coach gets into how the Arizona State job is his dream job and this is exactly where he wants to be and doesn't plan on leaving. He has a vision for where he wants this program to be with the upgrades to facilities and getting more NIL money. In this interview, it is very obvious how fired up he is to be here and the buy in is definitely there. By the end of this you may be a new Arizona state fan. Enjoy. :37 Recap the spring game 3:15 How of you compete with all of the schools that have tradition 4:29 How do you sell ASU when money isn’t poured into your facilities 5:14 What made him want to do Bussin Spring Game 6:30 How do you change Tempe from a NFL town to a College football town 7:33 What made him to get into coaching 8:49 What is the relationship with Ragle since he used to be his coach 10:14 How does he see the season going since they’re only predicted to only win 4 games 11:18 Why ASU is your dream job 12:46 Why does ASU have the stigma where 5 stars shouldn’t come here 13:52 What does he attribute his success too as such a young head coach and what has helped him gain that mindset 17:03 How does he use social media 19:34 Anybody in the PAC-12 that he would lose to a fight in 20:55 Has he ever/would you ever think about the NFL 22:35 First place he is attacking once he gets the funding 23:45 How do you go about using NIL in recruiting 25:00 “Activate the valley” meaningFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We'll drop this one last. Battle of the boys, spring game champions. That one hurts too. Team Maroon, team competition. I'll tell you, I'm never won in ASU Stadium. I'm never won in Sun Devil Stadium ever. I've state championship, dummy 38 to zero. Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl, dummy like 44, 13 against Kansas State.

But this one hurts the most. A state championship and a bowl game, and this one hurts the most. Go back to Arizona. Where I'm from? Shaptown. Coach Dehlehem goes to Shaftown. Charlie Rego's my head coach. And it's like, I legit thought you guys were going to really make it so I could win.

Yeah, we're about character. I needed to win. The other day, I lost this quarterback challenge. And like, you can just tell Taylor and I, low-key are super competitive against each other. I've been glad about that quarterback challenge, I do have that. Yeah, you do have that. And loki, when we put the headsets on everything, I was just telling the boys, like, hey, we got to win this fucking game. You guys understand that, right?

I haven't catching too many Ws, dude. I feel like an L was in my future. I had to take one. Yeah, what was it at the end? 1715 and they're fucking, I'm kneeling at the coordinator. I'm like, no, we're not taking a knee. We're running the ball.

He's like, my boss. He's like, my boss said we're taking a knee. And so I run out to the middle of the field. I'm like, hey, we want to score. And he's like, go ahead, go score. Like, what do you want to do? And the guy was like in the knee formation or victory formation. I'm like, score, just run to play and score.

And he's like, hey, I'll throw you a fade. No. That's how that happened. I know. because as soon as we, I knew you guys were to knee and I literally thought to myself, Will's going to go try to run this thing up because it was in the red.

We were within the five yard line. I know. I was like, no, wait a man, we're not taking a knee. We got to run this thing up. He caught it too. Dude, he did catch it. That was good. I caught the ice bath.

I thought that was sweat. That was the start of a coaching career. One and O. Yeah, dude, I would not be a good coach. I found that out today. Your coaches try to take over for me. Like, you call on the place, I'm like, yeah, let me get this play.

they call one and then all of a sudden they start calling the other place. I'm like, hey, hey, what's the play? And the coach wouldn't listen to me. He would just be like, just say it. I probably called two plays. Yeah, that was probably why they didn't win. I mean, to be honest, if they were to listen to you, I mean, I think you would like that.

I like that. I like the sound. That's a good way for me to spend it. I would agree. It's a good way for me to spend it. But hey, we're in Tempe, you're home. You grew up here. You've been in so many prestigious programs.

We were talking about this a little bit before we came on camera is historically rich traditions at Florida State, Oregon, Auburn. come here and let's call a spade of spade, it's not. And so how do you compete with those other colleges that have all that history and tradition to say, hey, come here? Well, I think you just look at it. And tradition is just something that happened in the past. It has no effect in the future, right? But what happens is social media nowadays drives where kids believe they can go to school. So I believe I can only go to a school that ESPN tells me is of an elite status. And they choose those schools. When in reality, if 25 of the best players just chose to come here, three years in a row,

our roster would be top five in the country. It's very, very simple. So people need to stop living in this bubble that only certain places can win and come to a place that it's 70 degrees in April, 60 degrees in June, right? They bring the Super Bowl here. They bring the waste management open. They bring tons of concerts. Retired athletes move here. Right. Why would you not live here in a place that's the fifth largest market in the country. We have a player who has his own podcast, right? Why would you not choose to come here, right? Just because we may not have the tradition in 1996, right?

That's so short-minded. We're trying to teach people, right? We can be the tradition. Come here and be the tradition 20 years from now. How do you sell them on that when you walk around and obviously your facilities? Like all we talk about tradition and everything else, but even facility-wise and walking around, you can just tell that money is important.

poured into this place yet. No question. And, you know, the places I've been, this is actually, this is actually probably the middle of the road facilities of the places I've been at, shockily enough. It's not Oregon, right? And no place is Oregon. I don't think anybody's Oregon. Yeah. Nebraska. The support here from the, from the community and from the city is there. We have the ability financially to compete because we have the fifth large metropolitan area in the country. We just got to get everybody back involved in college sports. Yeah. How do you do that?

Yeah. Well, by winning games, right? And stuff we did today. You guys. Yeah. Yeah, what got you on to that? I feel like that was like, you know, I want to say innovative, but also I don't want to say innovative because it was us.

Like, what puts you on the trail to do something like that? Because we were promoting like, hey, where do you guys want us to go? And then all of a sudden you just, without a shadow, like, without any questioning, like, hey, we want you guys to come here and, like, coach a spring game. We want to build it around you guys because I feel like the majority of that coaches wouldn't do something like that. Yeah, one, I don't need to be the star of the show. I actually would rather be in the background, right?

So it's great for me. Two, right, what other schools did you guys go to? We went to LSU, we went to South Carolina, Ohio State, Texas. Texas. What was the other one? Colorado. Colorado, but we really didn't go to Colorado. We didn't go to Boulder.

And then where? And then here. Here. All five of those have something in common, right? Tradition. Yeah. Except for Arizona. Right.

So we have to be creative and innovative to get. get our brand out to change the narrative here. You guys were the creativity and the innovation and your guys is following in just who you guys are as people to create a culture here that we can change it and get those players necessary to be one of these teams that I want to build this program into. When you're looking at this town being, it's a pro football town, how do you get people to transition from pro football into college football? I don't think you'll transition people.

I think there's enough room for both. I think not everybody's going to be able to go to a Cardinals game on a Sunday, right? But I do think there's enough people that if you can't go to a Cardinals game on a Sunday, you can come to an ASU game on a Saturday. I think there's enough people in this city that we can have both. And people forget, ASU was here first. 30 years ago, the Jake Plummer era, there was actually, these plays, all the games sold out. Seven years ago, all the games sold out, right?

This town just likes winners because there's so many options, whichever team is winning is what they choose. Right? So we've got to put a product in the field that produces winning. And if we do that, the fans will come, the recruits will see it. And then the tradition happens and the rest is history. I mean, what was Clemson 20 years ago? Yeah. Clemson hadn't a 10-win game in 20 season.

All of a sudden, the culture changed. Coach Sweeney did a phenomenal job. Now they're a blue blood. Yeah. Why can't that happen here? That's true. No, that's fair. As far as for coaching, like finding your process here,

your senior year at Chaparral, you get hurt. You're dealing with that. You're trying to think, Regal was talking about you were going to come here, become a lawyer like your dad, and kind of keep moving forward. What made you pivot into becoming a football coach? Yeah, Coach Regal grabbed me and said,

hey, you should just try this out, start coaching, and I started coaching. And I just love the impact you could make on people. I love people. I love being around people. I'm a people person, right? All these exes in a nose, people think they matter,

and they do. You have to know what you're doing. But what wins is can you get people to come to come to, together and can you motivate people to do more than they normally would? That's what wins. All the other stuff sounds fun, right? Yeah, we're going to run power versus weak rotation, whatever that is.

That's everybody could do that. I could teach my wife, right, what good play calls are, right? I wanted a coach because I love seeing that it click for a player. I loved it when a player maybe off the field or on the field in the classroom, he couldn't get something or he didn't know how to be successful and then it clicked. And once it clicks, it clicks. And you know how to manage it, whether that's your, life and your work-life balance.

And all of a sudden, they're like, hey, you've got to find balance here. You're not balanced yet. You're not going to be successful. Then all of a sudden, it clicks. Like, I love, I'm addicted to that click. Yeah. When you have a guy like Charlie Regal who got you into coaching football, now you employed him essentially.

You snagged him from Idaho State. You're like, hey, come down to ASU when he was a head coach. Like, what is that relationship like now? At one point, he was your superior and now it's flipped. Yeah, I mean, it's just the guy I lean on to ask questions to like, is this stupid? Yeah. Like, we have a dance off in the middle of a scrimmage. Our scrimmage three, we paused for a dance off.

And I'm like, is this stupid? Like, I want to do it. Right. But is it stupid? Like, should we be doing this? We bring a basketball hoop out to the third practice. And then other practice, we have a shootout. I'm like, is this bad?

So I just bounce ideas off a ham. Like, I wanted to run one-on-ones in the middle of a practice. Like, 1-V-1 basketball. Yeah. He's like, Kenny, they're in cleats. They're not used to the movements in cleats. That would be stupid. So he's kind of the person that tones me down

because I'm the guy that wants to go 100 miles per hour all the time and everything. It's pretty terrifying. The guy like Charlie Wrigal has to be the one to say, hey, don't go for the last. When we was sitting here, he was saying earlier, he's their fifth year he was in part. So that's...

You can tell he's the speech guy, isn't he? Oh, he is. His speech is all time, brother. I was going to tell you. I know. Remember the one about the dog? Yeah, the dog. And I threw the ball and the dog kept running.

And then I threw it again, and the dog kept running. the dog never came back because he wanted that ball. You want to run through a fucking wall when he does that, dude. When you're looking at this program and you guys are expected, yours are predicted to win four games this year, how do you think going into this season with the development you've seen from Springball? How do you see the season going for you guys?

Yeah, I mean, I think our players, I haven't even talked about that because I think our guys are invested. Like, I think our guys, you heard Jalen say it earlier, what his expectations are, right? Not even close to the same. Because I don't think people understand or how much our team grew together. People look at 45 new kids,

45 old kids that are all probably selfish is what people think, right? Kids that just came here to get theirs. That's why you transfer, to get yours. And what they fail to see is the community, like you guys are mentioned in off air, that our kids are together. Like our kids, it's different.

Like, they're building a culture here for each other. And I think that's the secret sauce to winning in college. Look at Kansas State, right? Look at Utah, right? Look at the teams that win, right? It's the culture that wins. Yeah, and you can tell, too,

like when the kids were on here talking and doing their interview, they also alluded to you being excited, like this was your dream job. Can you talk about why ASU is your dream job? And if you, you know, if you're saying that and not planning on going anywhere else,

speak a little bit on that. Yeah, so obviously I'm born and raised here. I grew up going to games. You know, my family moved out of here. My parents when they were, you know, 50 years ago. My wife's born and raised here. We were neighbors in high school. So I grew up rooting for Arizona State. And then I coached high school ball here, right? Then I coached college ball here. And then I moved around the country, but this is always home. So home is home. Like, there's nothing like being home. Like, you talk about ultra motivation. Like, I used to clean up dog crap at Chaparral Park.

That was my job when I coached. I drive by Chaparral Park on my way to work. So when you talk about all those things that add up, and then with my families here, I believe this place can win championships. I believe the city, what it's growing to, what it can become, all we have to do is teach kids, it's okay to come here.

That's it. Because if you showed up here, you're going to be like, dang, I want to live there. That's not a debate. You just got to teach to people it's okay to come here. That's it. It's okay. Don't listen to the media.

Come here. Live the life you want to live. Live the life retired professional athletes live in Chandler. Right. And let's go do something special. You say like, you're kind of juicy. Yeah.

The phrase you're used to is like, tell them it's okay to come here. Why do you think ASU has that stigma of being like, hey, if you're a five-star guy, unless you grew up an ASU fan, don't come here. I think the media chooses what's okay

and where's okay for people to go. I think when you watch TV, when you look at Twitter, they tell you, they tell these five and four stars, you can only go to blank. You're too good for blank, right? That program's not good enough in history for you. Why? Like, why? Like, that doesn't make any sense to me, but it's the narrative that these kids hear all the time is, you're too good for this. You're too good for this, right?

when in reality, they should be finding where they want to live, right, and what people they trust. That's it. And if you get 25 elite players living where they want to live with coaches they trust, that's an elite team. Just like that. It's a very, very simple process. But you've got to break the narrative. Yeah. When you're, as a head coach, being such a young head coach, what do you attribute your success to at such a young age?

because there's a lot of coaches out there that are in their 50s, 60s that I've never sniffed a head coaching job. How did you get to this point in such an early age in your life? Yeah, I would say I have a bad, I'm very bad at not being honest. So everybody thinks, oh, young, energy players coach, right? That's what the players think,

players coach, right? But I'm also the dude that tells you what you don't want to hear. Like, I have no problem saying you can't play here. Yeah, you're not going to make it. You're not going to play for us. I have no problem saying that was lazy crap. Yeah.

Like, that doesn't bother me. That's just how I was raised. So I think the combination of my youth and understanding that kids haven't changed, right? People say kids have changed. Kids have changed. Just like the narrative, right? Oh, these new kids are different.

No, they haven't. Right? Adults have lowered the bar because they think kids can't hit the old standard. So they just lower the bar, lower the bar, lower the bar, lower the bar, and then you hit the bar. No, you can hit the bar that's always been set, just do it in different ways. kids like social media now. Don't hide from it.

We have people saying, oh, social media is the devil. Hide from it. No, embrace it. Show them all their tweets of people calling them the worst player on the planet so they get used to it. Don't tell them don't look at it because they're going to. Like, you have to embrace the new age that we are in, right? And then find a way to hit the same high bar in a new era. And I feel like I've been able to find a balance.

And then I genuinely care about people. Like I have relationships. I have group chats with all my former quarterbacks. I think they can feel that. I think so all those three things combined. Have you, go ahead, sorry. I was just going to say, where do you feel like you've picked up on those things over time and over your career, like what philosophies or what things have you read, what things have helped kind of cultivate that mindset about it?

I think one, I mean, Coach Regal, I mean, he's a guy who cared about his players. I mean, he would do anything for his players, but he coached him hard, right? He was passionate, like he brought it every single day. So getting to see under him at a young age, we had another guy from a football standpoint, Conrad Hamilton, right? who was an unbelievable defense of coach, right? Also a coach of Chaparral. Yep, also a coach of Chaparral.

Yeah, we had a squad. Dude, yeah. Yeah, we'll get on that later, but we had a squad, right? It was probably the goat squad of all time in the history of high school football. But that's just my personal opinion. But I combine that with guys like Mike Norvell, and I think I've learned more what to do, but I've learned more what I wouldn't do along the way. Like, hey, I love this, but I don't like this.

And I've just kind of marked off all the things I wouldn't want to do as a head coach. Because at the end of the day, people know fake. That's one thing I firmly believe. People know fake, people know real. People know if a head coach walked in, if I walked in and gave her speech like Charlie Regal and said, we're going to chase the dog, I'd be laughed out the roof. I'm 5'9. I'm unathletic.

Like, I'm the goofball. I got no chance to give that speech. If I give that speech, I'm a fraud. I have to play into me. as a head coach, the culture is going to be what I am. Because if you're not, people feed off of it and they know your full crap. Yeah. Phenomenal energy.

When you're talking about kids looking at Twitter and you're like, go ahead and look at the negative comments. Have you ever showed players? Have you ever gone into a team meeting room and been like, hey, they're saying this about you? Not yet, but we have showed what they retweet and like. Yeah. So I do just from like, hey, I just scroll and this is what you like. So if somebody is trying to draft you or hire you for a job and they look at your Twitter, this is you, bud.

Just know that. Right? That's hilarious. Exactly. So I do some. Or all the positive ego feeling shit that they get tweeted at and they like or retweet and stuff. It's like, hey, you know, the whole quote, live for the cheers died by the booze. It's like, you know, the moment people say bad stuff about you, you're going to, we know

you're going to be looking and feeding into that because you get so hyped to like and retweet and engage with everybody who you want to see, oh, look what so-and-so said about me. Correct. I mean, there was a year and years past, just as an example, I pulled up my name for my team and scrawled at all the hate so they could see, look, this is what people say about me, calling reverse on the minus 10 that was a TFL fumble. Probably not a great call, right? Look, people hate me. But horrible call. We were the number two offense in the country, right? So they loved me, love me, love me, love me, hate, hate, hate.

And the whole goal is like, you should love the process to get better. And the best players have ever been around loved, like the football. Like they found a way, even if they didn't love ball, they found a way to fall in love with being there. Even if football wasn't their passion, they found a way to compete one-on-one and talk crap enough that they found a way to compete. So it's, can you block all that out? Look at it. Because you're going to look at it. You can't hide from it anymore.

So let's embrace it. But then keep the main thing, the main thing. Laugh at it. Like, yeah, you're probably right. You should have cut that ball. I agree with them. Yeah, you should have. You know, but you don't take it as a negative.

Take it as a laugh. Like, joke about it. When you're going through recruiting process of Arizona, how do you get guys, what's your selling point on ASU over something like U of A or anywhere else in the PAC 12? Well, I think for us specific, one, we don't recruit versus U of A. Yeah. That's just, that's a no-brainer to come here. What do you mean by that?

That's a no-brainer to come here. Oh, like, they just ain't. Yeah, that's a no-brainer to come here. Yeah. That's not a debate. Yeah. And I'm going to. that.

Mark's a hate that. We got to clip that for Mark. And I'm going to be here. I mean, you're choosing a U of A or ASU with a guy who's passionate about actually being here forever. Yeah. It's not a debate because you know you're going to play for me. Jed Fish, who's a really good football coach?

He's a really good football coach. Really good football coach. If you guys had gotten a fight, who do you think would win? Oh, I would win. Yeah? Oh, yeah, I would win. Yeah, I'm 32. And I am fiery.

Yeah. I will bite ankles. You did just say you're unathletic and goofy. I'm unathletic, but I'm fiery. And you could hit me over and over again. I'm probably, I'm gonna go all day. You're gonna be like that dog. Yeah, I'm gonna be like the dog.

You're gonna have to kill the dog. You're gonna have to kill me. Yeah. I don't like to lose. Anybody in the Pack 12 that you think could whoop your ass? Let me go through this. I mean, I don't know. I mean, to be honest, you would think Dion.

I mean, he's a professional athlete. That's me being real. He lost his toes. Yeah. So you don't know how that kind of hinders. I don't know, but I would just think. I mean, I think he just benched like two, 25, 20 times or something. I don't know.

You really do that? Yeah, I was pretty impressive. What bench? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's always been... Talk to him about that. He's always been a bench press cat. Sometimes he'd do videos right after he gets on hit the bench press. Really? Drop some wisdom on you.

Drop some philosophy on you. That's awesome. So no one's beating you except for Dion maybe. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I'd have to... Kyle Whittingham is... The way his team plays, I don't know any of these guys yet, but the way his team plays,

I wouldn't want to get in a steel cage with him. You're usually a reflection of your coach. How physical and... tough you are as a football team so the way his team plays i wouldn't want to get in a ring with him his guys play hard has the NFL ever been something that you've thought about not really i like the i like making impact on kids i like seeing kids like the switch yeah yeah it's not as much about the football as it is about the people do you think you would ever dabble in the nfl no you say not really it's like what if you have great success at arizona state which let's just say five within

in five years, you put a couple years together, and then the NFL starts to poke their head in on, like, hey, let's get you up to the big leagues. Yeah, I want to be here. And throwing a bag at you. Yeah, I want to be here. I mean, at the end of the day, I always tell people, like, there's a certain amount of money to make you comfortable, right? I am way in that number. Then there's a certain amount of money that's just what are you going to do with it, right?

I mean, here I'm way beyond comfortable. So at this point, like, I am very, very happy and I plan on being here. Like, I want to build this right. I want to build this for the long haul. That's why we're not cutting corners. I mean, especially culturally. Like, we're not cutting corners culturally building this the right way. What fires me up, and you can ask your question, but I was just going to chime in and say,

what fires me up is that I believe all the stuff he's saying. Yeah. And we were part of year one. Yeah, that is a good point. The first spring game. His first year, we're here. years, though, you will get a call from us. You know, this will be on repeat.

Yeah, absolutely. Over and over. It was come here in the fall for a game, like a tailgate or something like that. Yeah, that'd be cool. That would be fun. Anytime we can come to Arizona. I'm down. Well, you guys will be on the Raiders, so you'll just be able to drive right down.

Yeah. We do have rules. We have to play together this year. We are a bag of a deal. When you start winning here and the money starts coming into ASU to really beef up this facility, where's the first place you're attacking? Yeah, I mean, I want to get an. An indoor right behind.

We have a bubble over on the other side. I want to get an indoor and the fields moved over here, which is already part of our plans. But obviously, that's going to... Where did you put it? We're going to take out some of the parking behind. Yeah. Behind this, and we'll put an indoor right here,

taking out that building, and then two fields back there. So that way everything's kind of... Yep, everything's right here. That's awesome. So that's step one. But my first step in terms of fundraising and money is fundraising for our players in NIL.

Everything I do right now is for our players. They said they wanted better food, got him better food. said they wanted better snacks, got them better snacks. Right? You guys ate the food today. It's pretty good. Right? They said they need NIL that haven't had it.

I fundraised almost every night for NIL. Like every decision we make is players. And if you keep that the main thing, that players win. That means everything you should spend money on should affect the who, the players. So I ask them, what do they want? Like, what do you guys want? You want this? You want this?

You want this? and that's how you get buying. With NIL, how do you attack that? Because you're basically always playing for agency now. How do you, says a free agency is about to start right now. Today, the portal opens up, yeah. How do you go about attacking that? Yeah, one for us, I tell people, if you don't want to be here, leave.

Because I firmly believe culture wins. So it's, you don't be here, leave. That's fine. I really don't care. Like, go. I don't care if our three best players are under the portal. I wouldn't want it. And I don't believe that's going to happen because we've built

a good culture here, but I wouldn't beg them to stay because that's how you build a bad culture, right? And on top of that, I tell everybody, my job is to bring in somebody to beat you out. Yeah. Because that's the best for the team. So it may hurt your feelings if I bring in four players and they beat out four starters. But guess what? There's another 85 guys who are on a better team. So don't be selfish when I make this team better. And I challenge them. I just tell them that. There are no guarantees on this team. Every transfer we took, right? They weren't promised anything. Zero transfers were promised to start. We're promised in I owe money. We're promised anything. It was coming here, compete, win. Same thing with everybody on our team. It is win and

earn your keep. I feel like we've basically hit all the big. I want to hit one more. You use the phrase activate the valley. What does that mean? It just means get everybody involved. Like show up at the spring game. Buy season tickets. Show up. Because the one thing that we're You know, you don't have that six national titles. Yeah. Right? You don't have the three national titles that you have to be able to show recruits as people care.

You have to be able to go to a game in the fall and see a sold-out crowd and see an environment that you want to play in because that has a huge effect on prospects. So if we want to be where we want to get to, if we want to get to where we want to get as a program, which is recruit the best players to come here so we can be the best team to come here, they need to show up and see a sold-out crowd with butts. seats. They need to see people active on social media. People think it's stupid. No, it's not. Our recruits love being retweeted by our fans. It shows love. We need everybody in the Valley to be activated in the fifth largest valley with one school. All these other large, and all these other

large cities don't just have one school in a one hour radius. They all have two schools. We're the only one with one. If everybody can get behind us and get activated, financially with what you can give and then put your butt in the seat, show up, right? People are going to realize we care. And if people realize we care here, we're going to be pretty dang good.

It seems like the right man, the right man for the job here. I feel like ASU is in good hands, folks. Coach, we appreciate you coming on today. Now, now if you drop, if you don't even win four games, we might have to come back and ask about that. But so far, like, I'm sold.

That's fair. Who's your first game? Our first game is that we have four home games. So our first Pact 12 game is USC here, week four. So. Four. That'll be a tough one. Week four, USC at home.

We play Oklahoma State week two and then Fresno State week three. So we've got a few good games here at home to start. So I'm hoping it's 105 all four of those games. And I'm hoping we kick off at noon. Hell yes. Absolutely. Yeah, this has been awesome, man. Thank you.

We appreciate you. We're rooting for you, man. We really hope everything works out. You know, let's, I mean, Maybe you'll have to defend your trophy next year. Maybe. I would sign up for that right now. I need that trophy.

We can make that happen. I'm not going to touch that. We need a little Will Compton right there on the side. Oh, like put some on the side. Yeah. We almost got you a second place trophy that was just like a car bus. That would be so funny. But we are in your pocket.

You can win your pocket. A little silver short bus to go on a key chain or something. Yeah, this is awesome, man. This has been a great time. Awesome. I feel like there should be a punishment for me for losing. We were bummed because somebody goes, because on the pod, we were like, we'll figure out what the bed is.

So what, so what does the loser, would the loser have to do or give or anything like that? I was like, man, we didn't get around to doing it. Don't say that, bro. Don't say that. I think you're wrong. I think the loser should have to donate his watch to ASU NIL. Oh. I think that would be phenomenal.

We could figure out some NIS. I'll take it. you what next year, not to watch. You had not to watch. You had a good day in Vegas. Yeah. Yeah, but that's my money. I'm going to have to keep that, keep that train a lot.

But yes, we will be back. And I think there should be some sort of NIL bet next year. Between you and me, loser has to pay a certain amount. Yeah, as long as we, as long as it aligns with whatever happens this year, like what just just happened. Okay, how much do you want me to pay this year? I don't know. Just say a number, but no, next year, it's got to be the same thing.

Because I'll pay whatever. You can think about it. You don't want to say a number right now? Because you know money gets me. Yeah, money gets me queasy. You rolled in the escalate today. Yeah. He earned that.

There's a reason. There is a reason that I would escalate just had for him, bro. Hey, you're soft now. You don't got that grit anymore, brother. No, we had. I don't even got to explain myself. Me and the Rav 4 with that seat all the way back. The big case.

The big case. Oh. If there was a rap for and then the escalate, I'm thinking the big case, the carrying case for all this equipment, would go in the escalate. Mitch was the one in charge of it. Mitch is on Team Compton.

The whole thought process was, we're going to be riding in separate cars. Like, now's the time, now's the morning we shouldn't be hanging out anymore. We need to separate. So I was like, let's separate Team Compton, team Lawn. And then I look at this big case,

and I'm like, hey, we should get the escalate. There's like, oh, I see what you're doing here. I buckled them in a seat and everything, dude. I was hot. I was hot. But yeah, Coach, we were. appreciate you. If you want us to come back for a spring game, we'll absolutely do that. Awesome. Absolutely.

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