Bussin' With The Boys - Kyle Larson Talks His Love For Racing + How NASCAR Contracts Work With Racing In Other Series

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

Welcome back to another episode of Racin’ With The Boys. This week we have the defending NASCAR Cup Series champion, Kyle Larson join us from San Diego. This was recorded before the NASCAR race in Coronado so he joined us via Zoom. The boys immediately get into Kyle’s love for racing and how it seems like he is hopping in a car every single day. This brings up the conversation of how do NASCAR contracts work with allowing drivers to race in other types of series/cars which is a very interesting conversation. The boys and Kyle now have a mutual friend in William Byron so the guys ask Kyle what Byron is like behind the scenes. Will asks the hard hitting question of, which Larson kid is the best at racing now. It takes Kyle a bit to answer the question but the answer may surprise you. Staying on the Larson family, Kyle’s wife Katelyn, is known to shotgun a beer or two after big wins. The guys ask Kyle how that all started and whether or not she continues to do so after each win. Finally the guys end off the show looking ahead at Sonoma this weekend and what it felt like for Kyle being the cover athlete for the new NASCAR 26 video game. All in all, this is another fun interview showing more of the personality of one of the best drivers in the sport of NASCAR, enjoy.   0:00 Intro3:51 Why Are You Always Racing?7:03 The Change In Testing/Practice 10:35 How Important Is SIM Racing? 16:15 Byron Larson relationship 17:54 How Do NASCAR Contracts Work With Racing In Other Series?20:25 Does Kyle Help William Byron With dating Advice?24:57 Which Of The Larson Kids Have IT?29:36 Kyle’s Wife Is A Beer Shotgun Queen32:34 Superstitions?36:07 Cracking Chase Elliott38:51 Sonoma Race Predictions39:44 Thoughts On Carson Hocevar42:56 NASCAR 26 Video Game Cover Athlete 44:30 Thoughts On Talladega Nights45:20 Becoming The Veteran/Older Guy In The Cup Series See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kyle, what's up, bro? What's up? Kyle, where are you at, dude? It looks like very tropical where you're at right now. Well, San Diego's right now. Oh, shit. Is there something going on there in San Diego? Just a little gathering Just a little gathering

Boys just hanging out Get a little Midseason vacay Yeah That's what it feels like Anyways Yeah What part of are you actually

Something just cut But are you in San Diego Like what Yeah Yeah In San Diego Are you like in a suburb area The Coronado island

Like we're the Next to the base pretty much Yeah Are you at that Hotel Del Coronado Yep buddy I went there so I grew up in Arizona I went there for a wedding when I was a kid and I was infatuated With the fact that there was a haunted room there and they have like books on it and stuff like that

Really? Oh, I didn't know that dude go in the gift shop there's like a room I think I don't know what room it is but there's like a whole room it's like supposed to like spooky and scary Okay, yeah, yeah, I'll check that out we got our kids here right now so they'd probably be in that Yeah, yeah, yeah probably probably don't want to do that you want to hit it because I feel like this guy This is we're talking to a legend right now. Yeah, I mean number one, welcome to racing with the boys we were talking with Kyle Larson, regarded as the most talented driver in NASCAR. He's attempted the double,

which is the Indy 500 and the Coke 600 all in one day. He's won two championships, including last years. He races for Hendricks Motorsports, which is like the Patriots and Yankees. Everybody welcome Kyle Larson to racing with the boys. Absolutely. There's only three of us,

and usually there's a lot more guys in here when they're in person. But, Kyle, buddy, we're reading over the notes. We're looking at everything. and I first off, congratulations on being regarded one of the most pure race car drivers of all time. I started to look through the notes and it's like, this guy loves racing.

Nobody loves racing more than this guy. And then Will starts breaking down your entire family how everybody's in it. But when you get to the point you're at where you won the Cup Series last year, there's obviously a big announcement we'll talk about in a little bit and you are racing 38 weeks out of the year

just in NASCAR, but when you have those breaks and those other 14 weeks or whatever it is, you rip around all the other places like what do you ever get burnt out ever? A little bit, yeah. This time of year, really, the summer gets crazy for me with all the dirt track racing that I do outside of NASCAR. So the last couple weeks has been pretty busy.

Racing, God, I think I race like 11 out of 14 days or something. Jesus Christ. Yeah, so it's fun. It's fun. Don't get me wrong. I love it. but I wish I could be at two places at once. You know, I wish I could be at home with the family sometimes while I'm at the racetrack race.

But no, I enjoy it. It's, I'm still young. I'll be 34 next month. So I feel like I got to take advantage of these years. But just, yeah, race, enjoy it and try to do a good job. Can I ask why you are so accomplished? And obviously, it's like any veteran and somebody, again, you're in your 30s. like every athlete kind of goes through because it was the dream growing up right and then you hit

these spots where you do have a lot of have success you do have a lot of success and you can kind of control your schedule a little bit more why do you continue to race so much legitimately bro on here note number two the guy never stops racing he loves racing sprint cars midgets dirt late model special events racing your kids at the car if there's a race involved you're doing it why continue to do it when you kind of don't have to yeah no i mean yeah i don't have to but i think the few reasons why i keep doing it um number one is because i love it uh but then i also feel like it's a great tool um for me to to get better and home my craft um i don't know if you guys are familiar with sprint cars and stuff but there are 950 horsepower on a 1400 pound race car so

they are wild, fast, violent, all that sort of thing kind of helps, I think, for me, slow the stock car down, fuel-wise. In NASCAR, our cars have 670 horsepower and weigh 3,600 pounds. So the power to weight ratio is quite a bit different. So for me, racing the dirt track, the cars are crazy, the track conditions are changing every lap. The races are short. You know, they're only like 30 laps.

So it's just a different type of racing, but I feel like the aggressiveness really helps for NASCAR. And two, these days, we don't get much behind the wheel time. You know, we only have 20 minutes of practice, then you go into qualifying, and then you go race. So where that's different, you know, the schedule used to be, you'd have three hours of practice before you get to the race. You'd have test days and stuff. So now the opportunity to learn behind the wheelboat stock car is much less. So I try to fill that void by your racing the dirt stuff. When you're talking about you only get a certain amount of training per week.

Is that like a league NASCAR rule that's taken place where they now have like parameters on everybody or is it just kind of a universal thing? Yeah, no, it's been a NASCAR thing. Well, and I think the teams kind of ask for it as well because they were getting out of hand with spending money as costs went up. So it was, I think, in collaboration with NASCAR and their teams, but to set boundaries on testing and practice schedules. So, yeah, it's really just a way to cut costs. And it's definitely, I feel like accomplished that in a way.

But, you know, teams still find other ways to spend a lot of money. So, yeah, right now, I mean, I wish we could practice more because we've been trying to find the right balance on our race car here this year. it's hard to do that. You know, we only have 20 minutes of practice. So, but yeah, no, it is what it is. It's all the same for everybody. So you, and it used to be, it used, so you're saying you only get 20 minutes of practice now. And it used to be, what, hours?

You get hours to practice? So I would say 10-ish years, 10, 12 years ago, it used to be, for testing anyways, was like unlimited. So you could test every day of the week. So the Jeff Gordon's, the Jimmy Johnson, you know, Tony Stewart's stuff, you know, that generation, they were really busy, you know, testing during the week. And then you go to the track on the weekend. And you would get, for me, when I first started, let's see,

a normal weekend schedule would be like Friday morning. You would have like a, I don't know, hour practice. And then there would be a break. And then you would qualify that afternoon. And then Saturday you would have two, like hour to hour and a half practices. to dial in your race car and then you go race on Sunday. So, yeah, once COVID, once COVID happened, well, they completely cut out practice.

They just would show up in race. And that kind of, that kind of was, yeah, it was fun. And that was kind of a thing for a couple of years. And then now they've just brought it into where we just have, yeah, 20 minutes of practice, 25 minutes of practice, I guess. But one set of tires, like it's really, you don't, really have time to adjust on it you don't you know how you show up to the racetrack is typically pretty close to how your setup is for the race dude it's so uh the the COVID thing so interesting

and not practicing when Will and I were on the Titans in 2020 we had a couple week period where like a lot of guys were testing positive and we're supposed to play the Pittsburgh Steelers so that got pushed like four or five days we had to practice on our own then all of a sudden they're like hey it went into our biweek remember yeah yeah they ended up being like this is now your bi week And you're no longer playing the Steelers, you're going to play the Buffalo Bills on a Tuesday. And we just showed up on Monday, hit a quick walkthrough.

And then we beat the bill's ass like 42 to 10. Like it was insane to the point we're like, hey, maybe this practice thing is like, yeah, hey, coach, you mind if we don't practice anymore? It seems like we're the best versions of ourselves. As you, since you've been in the game for so long and like clearly you look at your background and like not only you,

but your entire family is just so involved in racing, when you see this transition take place of like, hey, you can kind of dial in your car as much as you want during the week, then you go in race. And he talked about the Jeff Gordon, the Tony Stewart, the Dales, you know, Jimmy Johnson, those guys. And now this new generation is coming up where they're only getting 20 minutes of practice a day or I think during the week. They're in the Sims. It's a much different landscape of how you prepare for a race. Have you seen a change in the level of racing as of recent since the COVID is taking place?

Well, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, I mean, how you prepare definitely looks a lot different these days. And especially for the younger guys coming in who aren't able to get in the real car and go learn it. So, yeah, a lot more SIM time. And not every driver is doing that. I would say you're younger guys, though, because that's how they're trying to learn. They're in the SIM quite a bit. But for like me, I don't get in the SIM a whole lot.

I've done it more this year. And I feel like it's helped for sure. It's just hard. I think when the common race fan here is a simulator, they expect that it's identical to the real thing and it feels exactly the same. It's such a great tool, which it's a good tool, but you don't get the forces, you don't get the feel.

It's kind of all a little bit of an educated guess on if the physics are close enough. So, yeah, it's hard to put a ton of stock in it for me or confidence, but I like to use it for the road courses, especially just to get a view for the elevations and things like that. But then, yeah, I mean, for the racing, I would just say this race car, which came after COVID. 2020 was the first year of this race car.

It's changed a lot, the style of racing. It's super aggressive, overly aggressive in a lot of ways because the car is so tough and you can just, you can hit things and not, get a ton of damage. So that's something we learned early on and I think I'll use it to our advantages or even disadvantages, you know, sometimes. But so yeah, it's just, man, it's, it's wild out there. It's definitely way crazier than it used to be. And just, yeah, all of us, you know, racing like assholes kind of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can feel the, the oozing of some of the old school mentality. Yeah. It's coming out. You know, we got the Sims.

People think I would. I'd be like in a sim car and then I go to my boy and be like, this is as close as like I'm basically racing NASCAR if you're in the simulator. But you see the oozing of the old school mentality happening. How fascinating is it for you? Because you have a teammate William Byron who's been on racing with the boys a couple weeks ago. How fascinating is it for you from your vantage point seeing this dude come in, somewhat go from video gaming to racing NASCAR?

Yeah. Well, so that was like the irisings side of it. And yeah, dude, I don't know if you guys have been on ira racing at all, but like when I get on ir racing, I'm very average. Those guys are, those guys put in hours and hours of time on it every day. And they are so good. Like they are running to the absolute limit and understand the little tricks of the trade of the game. So they're really, really good. And, and yeah, you know, some of them.

them that are fortunate enough to get to race the real thing, it definitely transfers over. So a guy like William, and I mean, he's one of the best in the sport right now. So, yeah, it's an awesome platform to, you know, learn racing and then hopefully you get lucky enough to go do the real thing. So, yeah, eye racing has just gotten better and better. I feel like their physics and feel for the car sometimes relate. It's more to me than the NASCAR simulator. I don't know why that is, but yeah, it's just, it's a great tool for sure.

What was your first reaction when an eye racing guy was coming in the NASCAR? You know what it was. Was it kind of a chuckle? I'm thinking if it's us and some, I'm just going to say AI for just a lack of a better term, but some AI guy, some AI linebacker was coming in. It's like, okay, buddy, welcome to the big. Welcome to the big. Yeah, welcome to the show, but let's see your computer can handle this.

Yeah, yeah. What was your first reaction? Honestly, I mean, I don't remember exactly, but I have a lot of respect for those guys because when I get on, like I said, I'm very average. So, yeah, I'm like, you know, if they're that much faster than me on there, I mean, there's a good chance they could figure this out in real life and be really good. So, no. An I heart radio experience. You end up how with weekend gold tickets to Lassau Montreal. Thomas Rett. Mumford and Sons

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He's like, yeah, you should race eye racing as well. You race everything else. You miles will become the best at that as well. I mean, back before I had, well, back before I met my now wife and had kids, I was one of those guys on irasings all the time. And I was really good at it. But that was now 12 years ago. So yeah, like I said, I don't have the time to do much of anything outside of the real racing that I'm doing.

So I'm not going to spend any more time that I have to on a simulator. Will did bring up that William Byron was on this show on race with a friend of racing with the boys. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. You watch a couple of things on him. Like everyone, not everyone, but like people kind of give the, oh, you're having, you're a William on? Okay, he's a little more quiet, a little more reserve keeps to himself. just speaking for myself, he came on here and I was like wildly surprised versus the expectation

I was given and then what he delivered for me on the bus. What was it like for you and your relationship when he comes up? He does the ir racing thing. He's obviously gotten a reputation, be a little more reserved, likes his Legos, kind of keeps to himself a little bit. And then when do you break through that little defense mechanism of his and become good friends? Or maybe, hey, listen, maybe you're not. I don't know.

No, no. I love William. He's awesome. And I was not his teammate when he first came into the sport. So I didn't know him as well back then, but he's still the same William, like quiet and a little bit socially awkward sometimes, which is hilarious. And I love it. But he's just a really, really just great person. Just always smiling.

I feel like always happy. And yeah, he's just fun to be around. He's a good, quirky kind of guy. I've been out with him a couple times. And yeah, he's just fun. All my teammates, they're all, they're all cool in their own way. But William is, he's the youngest, too. So it's fun to like hear what he's got going on.

He's single, you know, so you always like to catch up on what he's got going on, go down there in Charlotte. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, he's awesome. I saw my boy Will flip the page, so I know he's going to change subjects and just a second. I have one more thing. I want to dip my toe back into the. this racing all the time, 11 times in 14 days. When it comes to like the NFL, when you sign a contract, you're like, hey, you're here to play football. So if you want to like do anything extra, whether it's like snowboarding, skateboarding, any, any type of other sport or any physical

activity, if you get hurt, your contract could be void in the NASCAR world when you're going out and you're racing these dirt tracks and you're like, these things are, you know, 950 horsepower, they're only 1,400 pounds. They kind of whip their little squirly. Did you ever get any pushback from Hendricks Motorsports or NASCAR as its entire umbrella company being like, hey, maybe tone it back just a little bit because we need you to be ready for the Cup series weekend and week out. You know you love racing. Yeah.

Let's calm down. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, back in up to like the early part of my career, yeah, I was not allowed to run the dirt stuff. But then like each year kind of went by and I would get a little bit more, a little bit more. And like I said, back then, the schedules were a little bit tougher to even do as much as I do now.

But yeah, when I joined Hendrick, again, that was during COVID. So there was no practice. And I think they were accepting of me racing for all those reasons that I mentioned earlier because I feel like it makes me better. And when I came to Hendrick in 2021, we had a phenomenal year, won 10 races, the championship. And so I think that really showed them that it's not a distraction. I think that was the main concern for my car owner before. And then even, you know, Hendrick with their drivers who wanted to raise dirt back in the day, that it would be a distraction more than it would help.

But the good season I had in 2021, I think, showed them that, yeah, to me, it helps everything. So, yeah, there's the danger part of it and the risk side of it. And for sure, I mean, sprint cars, there's guys getting injured every week. and you hope that you're not one of them that does. But yeah, I think, again, I think Hendrick Motorsports is accepting of the fact that it is who I am. I love doing it and it makes me better and they're willing to take the risk along with me. Can I tell you something?

That was a phenomenal question. Hey, thank you. Yeah, yeah, because I love learning that it, there is always, even it's like even, this is a stupid example. But when we were doing the pod while we were playing, it's like the level of distraction, you feel like you would cause the team. and then once you kind of break through that bubble, that's awesome to learn about it.

That was a great question. Thank you, William. That means a lot. I appreciate that. On the, going back to the William Byron, you mentioned the single, you mentioned him being single,

kind of getting, you know, trying to get a feel. Do you ever give him some game to finding, like, a wife that's in the racing world? Because you have one. Like Caitlin, she's shotguns, beers. Your kids, they drive as well.

So you kind of have like as good of a setup as you possibly can to chase your ambition and racing, because everybody on the family kind of knows what it is when it comes to racing. Yeah, well, I wouldn't say that I have any game, so I'm not going to. I'm definitely not able to help him that side of things. But, no, I think William is a very picky person. That's what I've learned about him as being his teammate.

He's very, he knows what he wants. And so, yeah, I think his window of finding the right, the perfect girl for him is smaller than a normal single dude living in the city. So, but yeah, that's what makes it fun, I think, you know, on the plane ride home from the races to quiz them on how, on how it's going. But he's also, I think it's tough for him because he is so, like, locked in on racing and focused and does a great job with,

you know, the simulator stuff and just studying that I don't know if he, I don't know if he can balance all of it out of finding a girl. perform at the top level like he does. Dude, yeah, but if there's any man out there that has the ability to get him a girl, a wife, whatever, it's you because you're the guy, your wife, she's about it, your kids are all racing,

you got a brother who's doing dirt tracks. Like you are so, like we've said so many times, like so integrated, your wife's got to have a friend out there that loves the game as much as she does. And she's like, hey, this William Byron kid. And you know, too, like when you're a young Thundercat

and you're out there, you're on the prowl, you're doing all these things. It's not like, I'm almost assuming he probably didn't know he was going to have the situation that he does have until like you're in it, your years in it, you have kids with them. And then you're kind of sitting back. You're like, thank God my wife is like, she's in the racing mode. Like my, thank God her brother's a stud and sprint cars. Like you kind of got a great perfect storm where your kids race now and you kind of don't realize until you're already in it. Like the only thing you bring up that I'm like, yeah, but the Thundercat part is I don't

think William Byron, it doesn't sound like he's really, he's looking. It sounds like he's just this guy's a professional type of cat. But yeah, true, but also just talk, speak like with for Kyle, obviously I'm speaking for him. She kind of don't know you have to set up. You can do that until you're like in the, you're in the professional world, guys got there. You just see how everything kind of unfolds when you start to get experience in marriage and having kids and everything else where you're like, oh, I kind of have a family that think God we're all ingrained in racing. Because I'd feel bad if she's rocking with the kids back home. My kids aren't in racing. she wasn't as much of a racing fan.

I'm doing all this racing. Now I'm successful, so I kind of feel a dad guilt to be back at home. It's like everybody kind of just knows the job. Everybody kind of knows what it is and they all love it, right? Yeah, I mean, speaking for my situation, yeah, it's, it is perfect. Like, yeah, I'm so fortunate that my wife grew up around racing and she gets to grind. She knows it. I mean, her brother ran on the World War of Allot tour for, gosh, 10 years.

they race way more than I do. They're 90 nights a year. So, yeah, she understands the grind. And then my kids, yeah, they're into it. And yeah, just having, I think, a partner that understands your profession is great. And that's maybe not for, yeah. But I was going to say that, that's maybe not for everybody. I think I feel like William is the type that, like, he kind of, it seems like he wants a girl that's,

does, you know, knows nothing about racing. So, yeah, I think it's just kind of whatever you're into. But thankfully for me, mine knows everything about racing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quick break from the episode to bring you form energy. Form energy delivers best in class taste with natural flavors and zero sugar. Form energy has natural caffeine derived from green tea and comes in a variety of flavors, like screaming freedom, grape smash, blue blitz, and orange fury,

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which one's like hey listen they all probably gonna be successful but this motherfucker right sorry not gonna Chris about kids yeah this one right here this one's probably got it I would say I would say my daughter

oh it's the old dad hey that's kind of kind of extra special yeah I well I just think she's I don't know it's hard to kind of compare them because they're different but Owen my son he's the older one he's good too but he's like I don't know he's this not mentally as

confident as she is. She is very competitive and she wants to do a good job in everything that she does. She races. She plays ice hockey and she takes everything super serious. So she'll sit down on the couch and study film and then you can like, because I think she's a girl too, you can actually, she can retain information a little bit better than. So, yeah, you can like talk to. her and then try to coach her and see her try to do it on the racetrack. So yeah, I think she's a step ahead of where he was at the same age.

But some kids develop at different speeds. No doubt. And Owen, yeah, and Owen definitely shows glimpses of like, man, I think he could be really good. So, but yeah, for right now, I mean, they're both so young. It's all about having fun in the racing. but yeah you can at least right now i can tell audrey is uh she's into it what are what are their ages uh so we have three kids we have um owen is 11 and a half Audrey just turned eight uh in may and then we have a three and a half year old boy who is

absolutely wild a little savage he's got a mullet oh yeah he's a savage yeah we permed his mola he's it matches his personality perfectly um he's crazy so i'm hoping to keep him out of a race car for a while because i think it'll be expensive because he'll be crashing every week i'm with you on that yeah owen's got a bunch of time 11 and a half you got a bunch yeah yeah and the pressure as an older as the oldest you kind of carry a different the second one i feel like even with scotty and roo roo has uh scotty just doesn't give a shit like she's just she's always ready to go right you know I mean. She's kind of has like a, yeah, she's splitting attention. She's vying for position. She's jockeying for position. Correct. In the household, as opposed to being that when you're

the first born, all the attention is on you. Like, oh, look how great this one is. I made this one. This is amazing. Yeah. Second one's got a little more to prove. And that, God forbid, that third one sounds like Coop's coming with some business. He's, he's ready to go. Yeah. And I'll tell you this too, dude, when you think about Owen, 11 years old, I quit baseball when I was young because I was afraid to get hit by the ball. I quit hockey once checking was involved. I quit football because I was afraid to get tackled. All right? I hit 15 years old. And now look at you.

And now look, I was a big physical boy when it all got said and done. So there's time and opportunity for Owen. I'm sure once you realize how your size was probably compared to others, you're like, okay, I got this. I gave you some confidence. I think what you said about your son too, like, oh, like he like the confidence, I didn't have a whole lot of that. And then really once puberty started, once the testosterone starts running through your veins,

like you have like a, not a confidence, but more of an arrogance about you. And it just kind of funneled into football from there. Yeah, I think you're right. I feel like I always say shy your kid because I if you're the, when you're the oldest, all the expectation is kind of around the first one. It might not even be expectation, but that's how the oldest one feels. Whereas the second one, you're just, you're ripping and roaring right behind. Like, hey, I'm coming for you.

Yeah, exactly. You have somebody, you have a paste car in front of you. Yeah, you in the middle one or the second one's mind, the oldest has always been the favorite. So it's easy to kind of just like gain some ground. Like, hey, I'm on your toes. Yeah, you do good. Yeah. Kyle, you have brother's sisters?

anything like that? I have a sister. She's four years older than me. She never raced or anything, but she was, you know, she was a great supporter of mine because she would,

I mean, had to go to the racetrack with me every weekend. But yeah, no, she was, she's a lot like my daughter, sassy and aggressive

and not afraid to speak her mind when other kids would get into me when I was younger. Dude, so Will's brought up your wife chugging beers after a wins every once in a while. Like you and your wife, let me just give you a hypothetical.

You guys are in a Coronado right now. You guys go to a belly up at a bar real quick. And a wild hair gets in both of you. And you guys are like, let's see you can kind of out drink the other. Which one of you is staying on the stool the longest, beer for beer? Well, I would say neither of us really drink anymore. She definitely doesn't. She all have, you know, a glass of wine or something here and there.

But so, yeah, she's kind of. outgrown her shotguning phase of her life she's uh she's about to be 35 so i think the hangovers hit a little differently buddy i'm with these days but oh so yeah no she uh i think only on special occasions will she will she shotgun a beer for so like the last one was the championship in phoenix uh last november so um and before that god i don't even know when the last time she shot guns so um but the fans i mean they they still think it's like a daily thing and uh every every every time. Literally every weekend, I'll have fans come up to me like, hey, where's your wife?

I want a shotgun a beer with her. She's just doing it all day long. Yeah, yeah. She's just waiting with a cooler right next to her and a sign like, can you outchug me? Yeah, exactly. But, no, she, not that either of us are great drinkers, but back when we did drink, I guess, I feel like I would be able to handle it better than her. We're both small.

So like we can't handle it very well anyways, but I would beat her. I love that. That reminds me of him telling that story about his wife, Shuckin and beers and fans coming up. It's like people see you just delete beers or you've deleted beers in the past and fans would just come up like, hey, I want to go one-on-one. And you're like, buddy, like I don't drink. Like I just do it every now and then.

Right, right. It just happens to be caught on film. Yeah, because I'm with you and your wife in the sense that like, in my 20s, buddy, like anybody who wanted to catch hands, chucking a beer, like we're going to go toe to toe to toe. right now. Now I'm 34. I'm going to be 35 in July. And if I even like, I went out with the boys last weekend and had a few drinks and I still feel like I'm recovering almost, almost two weeks later. It's like it's it just crushes your body. It's horrendous. I have, I wear a

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And it's for like, it's a residual effect too. It takes a, it takes a couple days to get back to green. It really does. It's crazy. It's crazy. I got eight hours of sleep last night and my recovery was still in the yellow. And I haven't had a green day since I went out, not the last fight, but the Friday before that, two Fridays ago.

Wow. It's like, we're sitting on Thursday right now. I love how we're talking in colors too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've had a green day in a week, man. Yeah, I need a few green day. You can tell we're in our mid-30s. Yeah, you ain't lying.

Dude, Kyle, let me ask you this. You got the whoop on, you're focused on your body. How are you with astrology? What does a waxing crescent mean to you? Oh, my God. I don't know what that is at all. What? I heard those guys talking about it.

I don't know, a couple months ago. And I'm like, what is this waxing crescent? And so I asked chat, GBT, like, what are these guys talking about? And, yeah, so I don't know if it's a thing or not. I don't, I guess I would need to pay attention to it more to see if it was actually a thing. I don't think it's a thing. Do you think it's the thing? I, dude, here's it.

I am, like, I'm a placebo guy. So if you give me something, you're like, hey, by the way, this will make you bigger, stronger, faster. If you just take this, but it's a sugar pill, I'd be like, I'm going to get bigger, stronger faster right now. Like, I'm the easy, my brain will just agree with whatever, whoever tells me the information first, that's going to now be my opinion. So I, to answer your question, I 100% think, 100% think the waxing crests is real. But you know, Kyle, like, he's looking up if it's true or not. But to him, it doesn't matter to it.

He's old school. He's like, let's get in the 950 horsepower. Yeah. And let's see how these are going to run this weekend. Yeah, my foot's heavier than yours. We're going to find out what's going on. You take your astrology bullshit and you could shove it up your asses. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He doesn't worry about size, dude. He's like, Virgo, that shit sounds lame, dude. We're not doing that. So when it comes to race day, you don't keep a right sock on, just a right sock? Well, I am superstitious. Let's go. Hey, let's get mysticians. I definitely, I do put my right sock on first, always, right glove on first.

And then, oh, another thing that's followed me my whole life in racing is ladybugs are good luck. I agree. So I ran a ladybug sticker on my race car my whole life. So from when I started racing when I was seven till now, there's still a ladybug on there. And on all my dirt track merchandise, we kind of hide a ladybug somewhere on this shirt. So yeah, those would be kind of my superstitions, I feel like. Would you say that a ladybug is your spirit animal? Sure.

Why not? Hell yeah, dude. Kyle Ladybug Larson? I like that. Kyle the bug Larson. I mess with that. Because, hey, spirit animals, my kids are all into that right now. They want to be wolves or, you know, the most intimidating, amazing figures.

Hell yeah, dude. Funny enough, my spirit animal is a ladybug. I did a tarot card one time. The first thing that popped up was a ladybug. It said, it's like, good luck and all these things. I'm like, all right? So maybe Kyle's your driver now. Kyle might be my driver.

I hit the old fendual sportsbook app on Kyle. He's leaking. Might have to hit it. I don't know. I don't know. I'd put your money on SVG. So these next couple weeks. Um, SPG.

SBG. SVG. Shane Van Gisberg. He smokes us on these road courses. Really? Oh my God. While Will's asking you this question. Knowing that he's the guy, is there ever any like, uh, above board conversations?

Like, hey, some one of us has got to kind of get him, kind of get him aggressively, not like, you know, get him out of the race, but somebody's got to kind of do something when we get in this race early. I feel like we do need to come together and talk about. it because it's it's crazy it's crazy how much faster he's been at so yeah he needs the wreck that's about our only chance you get william byron on it yeah yeah oh yeah i'll buy you a 10,000 piece lego set if you just take this guy out yeah there you go um and speaking of your teammates too we're actually supposed to have on chase elliot today and we're fired up because he's obviously a legend but everybody we've came with that we've come across has been like he's a hard one to crack he's a hard bubble to burst.

He's hard to get into the conference. Like what tips and advice would you have for us knowing that you've been a teammate with him for a while? I'm still trying to figure it out. So, no, I think you guys, you guys are fun.

This is a fun setting. I think you would crack him pretty easily. I've been around him a few times when he's been a great time. But I would say most of the time, he's like an old soul kind of keeps to himself. I don't really know what. He doesn't live in, you know,

So he lives in Georgia to those hometowns. Like, I have no clue what he's into. He doesn't open up a whole lot, which is cool. I respect it. Yeah, I think you guys could crack in. What gets him laughing?

Like, what gets him going to where you've seen him laughing and you're like, if you can remember, have the awareness of what you guys were kind of talking about at the time, you're like, oh, okay, he does have some personality. I don't know.

I don't know. He doesn't laugh a whole lot. We got to work it out for it. If his teammate doesn't know. Yeah. You guys had Bubba on, right? Have you had Blaney on yet? They came on together.

They had them together. They were great. Blaney is a second time friend at the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Second time for the show. So we had him a couple times. Last time we had him, he was clean cut like you are right now.

Now he's rocking a deep thick policy. It's nice. Yeah. No, I was going to say they're like all best friends, though. So, you know, they probably have great times together and probably could help you give you some insight on how to crack gendos. Maybe reach back out. Kyle's trying to get in their group.

He is. He's trying to get a good trio thing going. I wonder if they have a good trio thing going. I wonder if they have room for four. Yeah. You need to learn a waxing cresset before you get the invite. Just so you know for the upcoming race that will, this will come out next week. So this is all just like fluff that doesn't need to be in.

But SVG, he's minus 160 in this race. You're plus 2,700. Oh, wow. I mean, heavy underdog. Yeah. Heavy. Yeah. Plus is bad minus his favorite.

Yeah. He should be minus 270. Oh, really? Damn, he's got a lot of respect on this. Yeah, I mean, he's won like every road. He's won every road course race, I think, in the last like two years, except for Coda, he finished second this year. So, yeah.

Yeah. And when I say win, he's not winning by a small margin. He's winning by like 15 seconds. So. Might have to put a bag on SVG. How do you feel? Plus 2,700. I don't feel like I'm out.

I know that. I feel like he kind of, I don't even know if you should have said that. That was, well, yeah, you know what? Now that you go back and it's like, yeah, maybe I shouldn't have put, I just wanted him to know where he was at. He's going to have like five lady book stickers. I'm going to flip the bookies off if we win.

I like that. How do you feel about Sonoma? It's kind of as close as you get to, a home crowd. Yeah. Like, do you feel like you have a little bit of a superpower going into Sonoma? I like Sonoma. I would say it's probably my best road course for sure. We won a couple races there.

There was a stretch, I think, where I got the poll there, like five years in a row. So it's definitely my best one. In a couple years since we won there. I guess not really. I guess we won in 2024 maybe there. But yeah, I like it. And yeah, it's my home race. So get some friends and family there.

But more than that, I mean, it's just the Napa Valley is just awesome. Yeah, it's gorgeous. Napa does it work, dude. So I love going there and spending it as vacation. Really, these two weeks is something I've been looking forward to for a while. Home state, you know, beautiful weather, great food, great wine. So yeah, I'm pumped for it. Then you get to throw in some racing on the weekend is always good.

Yeah, it sounds like you being really good at this road course. Like what makes this one difficult or what like separates a great road course from just like a good one? Yeah. I think for me, Sonoma, I do better there because it's less corners. I feel like the more corners we get, the more opportunity you have to screw it up. So, yeah, Sonoma's only 11 turns. And then like Cota, I would say, is one of my worst ones. And it's like like 20-something corners.

But I'm not sure. Sonoma's pretty flowy and just got more grip. So I like that part of it. And then probably being at home, you know, gets your mind in a better spot. Get the juice is flown a little bit. We've asked every single, once I've learned about this individual, I've took it upon myself to ask about this guy every single racing with the boys we do. and you're an old school cat.

There's a piece of you that right there sits at the old dogs, and it's like, yeah, we like the old way things used to be. Just a piece of you might be in there. Every time I brought up the name Carson Hosevar to some of these racers, that's the exact reaction you just had. And it's like, yeah, you know, this guy flies by us see if his pants. He makes his own decisions, whatever. There's like a, because I know there's like an unspoken rule that takes place in all sports,

not just NASCAR, not just football, of like how to act with the older guys versus the young guys and all that. The respect game. What is your interactions with Carson Hosephor? I've been like. And if your son or daughter who's right there, they're more than welcome to come in if they like. This is our crazy,

crazy kid Cooper. Yeah. Oh, what I'm coming up. There is. Yeah. Yeah. Show your bullet. So shaking.

Yeah. Yeah. That thing, Daniel, kid. He's doing the dad thing like you in two seconds. Yeah. Hosevar. He's honestly, like, I respect his talent. I think he's extremely,

extremely good and fast. I think he is, I like his aggressiveness even, but I would say it goes overboard a lot of the time. And then for me, I don't know, he's just like, he's young, but he's just kind of like, he's, he's been more immature than what his age is. I have his little Twitch stream thing pop up on my Instagram feed every now and then. I'm like, dude, this guy's like an eight-year-old. So it's, that's where I lose a little bit of respect because I'm like, man, this guy's supposed to be like could be the future of our sport and just acting like he's eight years old. But no, I mean, he's phenomenal. I mean, he outruns his teammates by a lot every week.

So he's really good and he's going to be around for a long time and going to win a lot of races. I think once he definitely harnesses himself some and kind of can dial back that aggression a little bit and manage a race better, I think he can win multiple races a year. And he's close to that. He's definitely gotten better over the last couple of years. So yeah, I don't know him that well. So maybe if I knew him a little bit better, I'd have more respect. It's a perfect answer.

It's a perfect answer. Kyle, we know you've got to get rolling. We know you're on vacation. Just a couple sentences reflecting on being the NASCAR cover athlete this year for the 2026 game. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's cool. I don't know if it's been announced or anything yet.

It is the week that this comes out. So you'll be doing the burnout and stuff like that. Yep, cool. No, I'm really, I don't know, it's an honor. I think any time you can be the cover of a video game, I think that's really cool. So I'm surprised it's taking this long with success that we've had. But, no, it's cool.

When they reached out and let me know that they wanted me to be on the cover, it was definitely something I was proud of. Are you worried about a curse? Have you heard of the Madden curse? Like, anytime you get on the cover of a game, it's kind of, I don't want to put that out there, but. Well, I need to go back then and see who's been on the cover. Yeah.

And see how their seasons been. Then maybe, yeah, I'll get nervous. Which, hey, I've been winless for a year. So maybe this will, maybe this will be the thing to change it and be the opposite of a curse for us. Byron was on last years. Byron was on last years? Oh, no. All right.

He said, oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, that's bad. I'll tell you, he was, you put a couple. a ladybugs on there you put this you put the saw the right sock on first extra fast and the glove you should be all right yeah i know you got a i think extra ladybugs might be the thing yeah that's the yeah maybe a ladybug tattoo do you have any tattoos no tattoos but we might have to have to get a little

yeah you had counteract things real get some sage all of that last question i have very hard-hitting question we've talked about with everybody else on this show what's your opinion on talladega nights friend or foe of the show of NASCAR i mean i'm i'm i'm like like middle of the road on it. I love the movie. It's hilarious, but I will say I don't really think it's done as much positive to our sport as it's done negative. I feel like since that movie, the general public thinks our sport is a joke and they don't take it as serious. So, okay. So yeah, kind of a yin and yang opinion. That's my opinion, but I like to watch the movie. Objectively funny. Harts the sport that you're.

in that's what I'm hearing I think I think so okay all right Mitch at least at one time it's it Mitch do you have one before we let him go Mitch is an avid NASCAR guy yeah Kyle big fan um one question I have for you we just had a jesse love on this past week and he said the biggest starstruck moment he had was when he got to race against you what is that feeling like when these younger guys are coming up through the sport and they're looking up to you and they're like holy shit I'm racing against Kyle Larson like what is that feeling like for you well it makes me feel old for starters because uh because i that's it's it's definitely cool to hear about that but it's because it's not something that i've ever really thought about you know i don't really think

that i don't know i don't think of myself any differently than i did 10 years ago so um but yeah i mean i think it just shows like how young these guys are now coming up and and they've probably been watching me their whole life which is crazy so um because like i said i'm still only 34 but um No, it's neat because I remember those kind of moments myself. My first cup start, I remember, and I'll never forget, you know, being on the driver intro stage and, like, Mark Martin came over to me and talk to me. And I look over there and it's Jeff Gordon, there's Dale Earnhardt Jr. And Jimmy Johnson and Tony Stewart, like, I had never race with these guys before. So, yeah, it was definitely, that was like my only starstruck moment that I feel like I've had.

But yeah, it's neat to hear about that. You know, hear a guy like Jesse Love, who's, you know, at the top of his series, say that about me. So pretty cool. I think it's sick, man. You mentioned all those drivers that inspired you that you saw. I was like, oh, these are the guys that can't believe I'm getting a race with them. Then you got Jesse Love, the next generation, who grew up around a similar area of you in California, coming over and watching you his entire life.

And then being on the track and having that moment of like, holy shit like there he is that's the cat that was from an area that I'm from and now I'm getting to race against him that's that's badass man yeah no it's definitely neat it's pretty cool I think that's what's cool about racing is uh you can you can you can race through decades you know you can see a lot of different generations of drivers which is neat yeah that's awesome Kyle we appreciate you coming on man uh have a great time out west get after I will be placing a bet on you on the Fandoos sports book uh plus 2,700. You can't argue against that.

Yeah. Sonoma, he'll be, he'll be, the odds will be much better on this one. Shout to you and your wonderful family. It sounds like you just like hit it perfectly straight ahead. You hit, you've knocked it out of the park. Happy for your brother. Let's get you on the bus someday. Actually on the bus hanging out.

Just get a good true vibe taking place. That would be nice. Yeah. Kyle, thank you, brother. Let's do it. All right. I appreciate you, man. Have a good one.

See, guys. What a guy. That was badass. Yeah, it was nice. It was nice. Shout out Carl, Kyle Larson. We feel good, boys. We're solid.

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