Bussin' With The Boys - Kyle Long Says The Hip Drop Rule Is A Positive + Brian Baumgartner On Why The Office Is So Popular

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

Recorded: February 9th 2024 | In this week’s episode, Will hits the intro solo as Taylor is out of town for the next month. Will get’s into his time in Chicago for the March Madness, our spring tour and the newest NFL rule regarding the hip drop tackle. Will gets so heated about the new rule, he brings on Delanie Walker and calls in Kyle Long to talk about it all. Following the intro, we had Brian Baumgartner, who played Kevin in the TV show “The Office”, join us while we were out in Vegas. In the interview Kevin talks about his love for golf and the people he’s met throughout playing. The guys then get into the show and how he deals with fans. He talks about how everyone feels like they have a personal relationship with him because of watching the show and his character. Once Kevin gets to know the guys a little bit, he really starts to open and have some good conversations. Enjoy fellas TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 3:22 Will's Chicago Recap 28:25 NFL Bans The Hip Drop Tackle 28:40 DELANIE WALKER KYLE LONG DISCUSSION 1:12:09 JP Is Back 1:24:47 2024 Spring Tour 1:33:37 Shoutout The Breeze 1:40:54 March Tournament Talk 1:46:54 Middle Seat Or Long Security 1:57:02 BRIAN BAUMGARTNER INTERVIEW STARTS 1:57:46 Most Underrated City 1:59:40 Death Row Meal 2:05:38 The Places Golf Takes You 2:10:59 Is He Over Talking About The Office? + Dealing With Weird Fans 2:17:17 Go Pack Go 2:25:52 Still Getting Star Struck? 2:27:37 Being A Part Of Something As Special As The Office 2:30:08 Did He Want It To Be Over? 2:32:57 Watching Yourself Act Is Weird 2:35:39 Any Beef On Set? 2:37:22 The Input He Had On Kevin Malone 2:40:30 Staying Close After 18 years 2:42:15 Brian's Shit Talking Abilities 2:43:35 Office Reunion? 2:46:04 Taylors Biggest Problem With Golf Theme Song: Some Of Adams Blues by Quaker City Night HawksFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We got into this race to 10 because I'm kind of sitting there. Number one, by the way, the draft king sports book at Wrigley is incredible. The vibe was awesome. All the boys there were like, it was a fun time. But I remember before I left, before I left when we were in the gambling cave, and I silently shotguned like two high noons at the end of the stream. Shane, Shane was texting me. He's like, I'm watching the stream right now.

He's like, you need to get the chat going. And he's like, shotgun, shotgun, something. silently but don't tell nobody just quietly do it he's texting me all this stuff and i was like okay because we ended up going back and forth and i go tell me to do something dot dot dot with the devil face like we're sexting and uh so i go and grab a high noon shotgun it do another one but before i left i just remember telling big cat bc i was like you guys talk about this is the greatest weekend in all sports gambling like will can't wait it was my first time i'm excited And I just get, I got absolutely murdered on everything that I was picking.

Dave, I mean, Dave's out here. He's gambling anywhere from like, his number was like $66,000 or a quarter million dollars. And just, he's losing the same amount or he's losing the same games I'm losing. Because I like look over back, damn. I beg, hey, I had 500 on it, man. That makes you feel any better. Ryan Whitney, he was down. I don't want to say it because we were kind of talking like,

how we're going to have some of these conversations when we get home. like hey how'd you do and kind of like depends on how you look at it yeah i put that i put that tweet out of my the conversation with charro like uh i forget what it said but it was like oh it depends on how you look and she's like how else can you look at it i was like well i have a beautiful family and i love my life so there's always perspective and everything but i lost every i lost so much geared up dave did you guys see the clip where he's like i've never said a team let somebody down the way that they've let you down just oh you gear up and And every time you show up, you just keep getting hit in the mouth.

He said, but I got to give it to you. Keep coming back. Which that'll forever be the case. We did get destroyed. The first couple of minutes, did you guys watch the game? The first couple of minutes of Tom and Aga just banging threes. I was like, yo, let's go. This dude's going to light it up.

But that fucking Taylor Cat from A&M, he was like six for six from three. I will say the tournament watching it has been a lot of fun because you just kind of, I don't know, you're just kind of in it. You're just keeping up with absolutely everything. We're in the gambling, the gambling cave on day two, day one. We were at the sports book. Truly there from tip off to the very last game. I'm talking, I'm getting back to the hotel like midnight.

Just thinking like, where did the day go? Like where at the time? We're literally just sitting there melting watching games. And when you have to wait, my whole thing is this. And you guys know how I'll get antsy and start wanting to bet drives in football and quarters. And just, I just, it's like you want. want to feel something so you put something in somebody's like hey let's do a race to 10 we hit the first race to 10 that we do and that was the worst that was the problem is we thought we were going to

bounce back we had some like plus 300 race to 10 and we were all fired up and so we just go from that moment we go oh and five race to 10 the rest of the day after winning that first one and we just kept doing race to 10 because if you when we would place our bets right like we'd be fired up like i don't dating the first game. We'll put it on dating. And then you kind of got to wait to the end of the game to kind of get into, all right, March madness, back and forth, sinking last minute shots, cover, this, that.

But in the beginning, it's kind of like, all right, how do we do something that we can feel this excitement right now versus we have to wait to the end of the game? Especially in the very first slate, because there's only like one game on, two games on. It's not like all four games going at one point in time. So we get into the race of 10. We start betting PFT hit.

First point, first points, who make it? He hit two in a row out of the gate. I'm talking like a plus, they hit a plus 600, a plus 500. And so we ride a couple of those. Thinking like, oh, what does he say? He's a gremlin. He's a gremlin. And overall, it was a great time.

I got abused. My unit has went up, has unfortunately, like, ticked up, which isn't a good thing. Gamble responsibly, 1-800 gambler for those watching, Draft King Sportsbook is the best. sports book out there. But yeah, it wasn't good. I lost a solid amount on Nebraska. You feel bad at all for not going to the game? You think the outcome might have been different had you been there? I don't know if the outcome's different. I felt bad all the way leading up to the game because I had talked to Rule, Coach Rule the day before. I was like, hey, I'm trying to feel Dave out.

And for those who haven't followed the saga, which we can get into the Dave and Buster We didn't show for this bracket busters last week. Dave reams us out verbally. We go, you know, we're going back and forth. I realize that I'm trying to go to this Nebraska game on Friday. Dave's going to be there until Saturday. And the whole time, he is under the assumption that I'm going to be there. Because even when we laugh about, we'll get to this hypothetical story.

So fast forward to, we're there at the draft, the draft king sports book. I had talked through it. I tried calling Dave the day before to be, hey, I got this opportunity. I got this op. Nebraska's got me tickets. Johnny Manzell's got me a ticket. He was a court side. Low,

it was like a low level tickets with Coach Rule. I tried calling him. He didn't answer. So then I sat on it more. And then I text Big Cat. I'm like, hey, I'm going to drop you a hypothetical. Big Cat then just FaceTime me. And then I also asked Witt, Ryan Whitney about it.

He was like, does Dave think you're going to be there on Friday? I was like, absolutely. He goes, I don't know if I would. He's like, but he's not going to fire you. So, you know. It'll all end up his content somehow. And I said, it's the unnamed show. I was like, when are you doing the unnamed show?

And he was like Friday. And all I put back was perfect. That was when in my mind, I was probably still going to go. I was kind of up in the air, but I was probably still going to go to the game. And then I talked to Big Cat, Big Cat's like, throw up the hypothetical to him. This is the exact same scenario, probably around 6 p.m. on Thursday. And sadly, Witt doesn't. I'm not going to say tattle.

He doesn't tattle. I was giving him shit for being like, you just ran the Dave and fucking tattled about our conversation. They flew together from Boston to Chicago. But apparently it had come up. The whole the week of the bracket busters. And he's like, he's like,

I don't think Will's going to do this, but he's like, no, no, no, I'm not going to tell you. And then Dave, like, brings it out of him.

He said, you have to tell me. And so he basically says it. So when Dave comes to the sports book, he sits down next to me. and he tells Big Cat. And he's like, ah, I just turned down these court side seats to Caitlin Clark. And he's like, and Jimmy Buffett.

Like, I guess he loves Jimmy Buffett more than Taylor Swift, he explains. He's like, and Jimmy Buffett, I had these tickets and I'm not doing it because I, you know, I said I was going to be here, so I got to be here. I know it's like a reunion thing. There's like some like a memorial concert, like some memorial concert, reunion concert, something like that. It's like, man, I caught pass on a couple big opportunities. But I felt, I saw this smirk on his face. that tip me off like he already fucking knows i'm thinking big cat outed me already i'm like bc what the fuck dude i look over to bc i was like and uh dave starts jave starts jave starts javid davs javid at me a little

and he's like and bk goes hey i think will has a hypothetical for you know i'm like okay we're doing this hypothetical at like noon or 11 a m like i got to be prepared that's when that clip comes i'm like hypothetically but at the time i think big cat has outed me already about doing this stuff and so i bring up the hey hypothetically let's say you played at a school for four years, sweat, tears, blood, and the school, they're offering you these low-level seats. Courtside, Johnny Mansell is going to be their court-side tees to go support them. They make you a full uniform. But hypothetically, you have this, you have this commitment to, you have this commitment

to be somewhere on that Friday. And a superior just ream this employee out, this hypothetical employee. If you're the hypothetical employee, would you take this opportunity to go cheer on your school for this once in a lifetime, like, bucket list, whatever I say? Mitch, you can run the clip if you want. Hypothetically. This is hypothetical. This is hypothetical.

Hypothetically. Let's just say hypothetically. You went to a school and that school was to give you portside tickets to go watch him in March Madness when they've never won a game. So hypothetically. Next to Johnny Mantell for the Nebraska A&M. In this hypothetical situation, if this guy were to go, this guy also, for whatever reason, I don't know. every reason. I don't know a situation, but one of his

superiors verbally ringed him earlier in the week. And he's thinking like, hey, should I go to this, Nebraska, Gade? I can't believe how Barbara this worked out. And Dave sat down and was like I turned out. Oh, I Mississippi State. Yeah, I didn't know.

How well, what worked out? No, that he... The hypothetical? He didn't know that he turned down the... Well, I just turned down, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm giving me... So, hypothetically, this isn't even a question he'd ask you about that. It's...

hypothetical is whether you'd even raise the hypothetical. But it's not. Right. Yeah, this is all hypothetical. Right. Because none of this is actually happening. No. They'd be crazy, right?

If you went? If they went, not me. This hypothetical person. It's crazy to even think in this hypothetical. I agree. I agree. Like, that he would have hypothetically called Ryan Whitney and been like, should I go to this game?

That would be a, no, hypothetically crazy. That's a hypothetical. I agree with you. Career suicide. Maybe Whitney hypothetically got the call. Maybe Whitney hypothetically got the call, and I hypothetically have these Cape Park tickets hypothetically, too, just to be like... But it's good that we were all to live in hypotheticals.

Yeah. Whatever you've asked it. That's crazy thought. That's a crazy thought. And Dave's like, no, I mean, I just turned down everything. I wouldn't go off. I was like, yeah, stupid idea, right? But we're kind of just,

we're kind of just messing around back and forth. And I was like, Big Cat, what the fuck? He's like, dude, I didn't say nothing. He's like, you know, Witt told me on the flight over. Like, oh, hey, you're never going to believe this. He kind of painted it a different picture against Witt. And then there was a commercial break. Dave was like, he was asking, he said, hey, so where's the game out?

I was like, oh, it's in Memphis. So it's like two and a half hours north. And that's right, oh, that makes sense. And he was like, what kind of tickets? And then the conversation kind of faded into something else. But it felt like he, like, if I would have truly, been like, yo, I do want to go to this game. Would it really be?

I mean, is it going to be, are you just going to make content? Are you actually going to feel some type of way? I didn't ever ask him that question, but I felt like he would have been, oh, bro, you can go to the game. But being there at the sportsbook and being like with Bizz and Wib, Big Cat, Dave, Rico buses in, Jerry, Brandon, Titus. Now I feel like I got a name everybody, so I don't leave anybody else.

Mintz, you get the fun, mincy. The mincyisms making, making money. And the vibe was just, fun to where it was like, I do, it's like I wish I could have been in both places. Because I thought it'd be funny, like if I'm in that full uni, just sitting sitting on a stream like around all the bar still guys wishing there would have been a better fight than what it was. Because Dave ended up getting mad because I got mad. We lost like another bet. And Witt had asked him like, Dave, what do you want on this next game? And I was like, don't even fucking ask him. Everything he says,

he loses. And he's like, I'm fucking right there, I'm fucking A&M, and fuck you. He's like, Fuck Nebraska. And so we had this back and forth. He ended up losing the first to 10, A&M, Nebraska. That's what made him walk out of the stream. And he, like, it was never, we never got to have as much fun with it. But, like, I felt bad because I felt like I let coach rule down. I called him.

I was kind of texting. He's like, bro, do what you got to do. He's like, I promise you, it doesn't, it doesn't bother me. I was like, all right, honestly, I'm probably going to hang back. And just cheer on because I was like, and guys were. kind of tell me they were pulling from the for nebraska like titus had been talking about tomenag all year guys like hey nebraska mom rooting with you riko brought his Nebraska sweat so part of me was like i'm not just i felt like i would have bailed on them wanting to root for Nebraska so i

ended up not going and the whole time rule is sending me photos empty share of dinner empty chair at breakfast he called he calls me on the bus with all the Nebraska fans and the donors and the alumni everybody's that want to know where's willy at where's where's where's where's I love Willie. I was like, why do you got to, yeah, why do you got to do this to me?

Yeah. Then Dave comes up and a little coach rule just immediately goes to battle. Like, hey, he said something like I'm team Compton,

not team Portnoe or whatever. So yeah, it did suck. However, in the middle of the game, going towards the end, like when they weren't making a comeback, I was like,

man, thank God. Like, I'm not there. I would have just been like sitting there looking full uniform next to Johnny.

The way he was tweeting, I was like, God, he would have been giving it to me the whole time. And I, There would have been nothing I could have said. I would have probably started yelling at the players, just projecting on them.

Do something. There's a stat out there that Nebraska has never lost a basketball game that Will Compton has attended. Not that that will make you feel better. Nebraska has never lost a basketball game that you've been at in person. Is that true? Yeah. I've been the two. Right.

I want to say the very first one I went to, they might have been, playing Kansas on my recruiting trip. Ain't no way we beat Kansas. Since you were a student, not your high school years. Like when you became Team Nebraska. Yeah, maybe my brain's not thinking of it. Like, yeah, at a game, I think we beat Texas that one time I was at a game. But since I started a room from a couple weeks ago, they just lost.

Like, maybe I'm fucking cursed. Like, truly, I might be the problem. Compton curse. Yeah, yeah, I know. I did root for Tennessee. I covered with Tennessee. I didn't publicly say it. Like, maybe that has something to do with it.

Because I just texted Jack quietly. And honestly, when I sent the text, I was hoping that Jack wouldn't be that, God damn it. I was so sick. And I was just like, you're lucky that I got a GBO. But I was just like, yeah, you put GBO. I was like, oh, that went better than I thought. Because JP's out there putting Compton curse.

And I truly am losing. Hey, Jack, we went from losing getting whooped in the basketball game to Jerry and I on the iPad. We got the NCAAs on the rest of the rest of it. wrestling tournament because we had a couple guys. We had five All-Americans, which is, I think, the most. But we only have one guy go to the semis. Love it. Who's the one seed? Who's a monster? And he's in the semis. He's going to wrestle like right after Nebraska loses the A&M. And I'm like, on the wrestling. We got Love it. So I'm watching the wrestling match with the semis. He gets upset.

You don't want to get pretzels? No, no, no, no. He didn't get pretzled. Hey. That was. We've got to look up where that kid's from because we've got to say face a little bit that hopefully he's not from Nebraska because it truly could not work out any worse that it's a fucking Nebraska guy getting spladdled. How do you wrestle your entire life? Like spladle is something that you laugh about as a kid and you kind of get your butt, you kind of get your partner in it at practice and be,

I mean, that'd be sick if we can get some kids in this one day. And you wrestle your entire life. You never go over a spladle like in practice or train full. it or anything you kind of just like if it happens like it's like a once in a lifetime off you wrestle your entire life just to get spladdled on national television in the NCAAs at you're you're you're a d1 wrestler at the university in Nebraska and you're just sitting there like you even see the look on his face there's nothing you can do what do you just sit there on the iron cross like what do you do just start throwing elbows and just get decuited and

I can't go out like this what would you do You just rip apart. Brock Hardy, man, where's he from Utah? Yeah, that makes him a little bit more sense. He's freshman. He's going to be, he's going to bounce back. But I feel so bad for Brock that he got spladdled. And that truly is like my Nebraska fandom in a way,

especially when I'm hard press for the boys. God. Apparently our baseball team's doing all right, though. I do want to start room from a little bit more. Because I will say what, you know, I know, yeah, I know we're joking and having fun. But one thing that March Madness, like, it was doing for me in the moment as I'm like root for teams and pulling for Nebraska and everything else, it makes me kind of like want to be like a sports fan, like just follow the team and be a sports fan and all the sports. So you can just be like, you can just be riding with the boys. J.B. I feel like you're like that. You're like that for the most part, right? Basketball, football. Do you, does Bama have a good baseball team?

Yeah, right now we do. What's the record? I know Tennessee does. You got Tennessee solid at baseball. Hell. Got those boys dialed. Basketball, baseball, football. It just seems like a fun thing.

Like, we should, if it worked, the timing works out, I don't know for it will because I think it's in the month of June, but we get out to Omaha for the College World Series. It's such a good time. We go in college. It's such a good time. I didn't realize that being there for you guys during college. Yeah, bro. Be awesome.

Like one of the few things a year that the state of, Nebraska had because when I was in college we didn't have the hay market like the spot the vibe that we go to now like when we go down to Lincoln it was mostly just O Street like you'd end up at the brass rail every time or the bar the bar but now Nebraska has more stuff to offer but every year you'd have that summer you'd have the lull in the summer to where you got to be there for for training and everything else but they would always have the college world series out at Omaha and it's a it's a blast we should we should probably just go out there that'd be a good vlog regardless what teams are in I would assume maybe one of our squads might be out there.

I bet, yeah, one of the teams will make it this year. I got to go all in on bowling. I know we have a historic, like a true legacy program. Like we're a true blue blood in bowling. I think like 20-something natties. Look that up. Look that up, Jack. Nebraska bowling national titles.

This one says Nebraska bowling has won eight national titles since becoming a varsity sport in 1998. Eight? All right, maybe not 20. 1998. Oh, 11. 11 national championships. Don't let them get upset this year. Establish themselves as NCAA's premier bowling program.

Finish runner up four times and is the only program to qualify for every NCAA bowling championship. They need to send you the uniform. Bro. What's their uni look like? That's true. That's a great point. Because as I'm going so hard for Nebraska basketball, there's a part of me that, yeah, I have to. I have to.

the shorts the skirt everything get DMs from all these girls saying please do not bring this to our sacred lane everyone's like I was like how's the best of a baseball team doing everybody's like please stay away because I and I feel for him bro because man

I truly felt like a jinx um you want to hit this so we can put it at the front of the episode and then we can hit an act flag now we're already 20 minutes in okay so let's do yeah let's do it yeah let's do uh what a ask we have let's talk about draft kings the greatest sports book imaginable the thrill excitement of march mania is here in draft king

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The crown is yours. Yesterday, you guys are listening to this now. Monday was an off day for Marchmania for the tournament. Sunday I went one in five. The day before that, where was I Saturday? Saturday I kind of laid low. Honestly, I won a couple games Saturday, but I just stayed quiet about it. through my fucking guy, the high schooler that was, he was like,

hey, Will, I've watched the stream the last two days. I've got to help you out. I think he gave me, I forget what he gave me. Who? I can't remember. But he gave me like two winners, and I won that day. I won two bets that day. But if you look at my record on Thursday and Friday and Sunday and combine them,

I think I might have went five in 20, five and 21. Not good. So for those listening, I will be given my picks. And trust me, I've accepted the responsibility right now that I will be the fall guy and I will bet these games. I won't just say it because I feel like the universe, the gambling gods, for whatever reason, like I got to be the one they just got to kick and stomp on.

So I will put in money so that way it's true. I'll give my picks. I would recommend these aren't guarantees. You can never say anything like that. I would recommend fading me so you guys can make money and be profitable. I'd almost rather do that, take on that response. Then continue to just think like this is it. This is where I'm going to get back. I'd rather just be a loser for you guys so you guys can win. Will you guys do that? unless it's Tennessee.

Yeah. How do you want me to handle Tennessee, Jack? Just stay away from it. Okay. Don't text him about it. Honestly, though, I won. Yeah, you did win. I don't feel as nervous about Tennessee because you've supported them wholeheartedly in the past,

and it's never been an issue. So I almost feel like the gambling gods are torturing me? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, just, oh, God. I saw, hey, by the way, you saw Chancellor Plowman, pressed charges on, oh boy, got him, got him arrested. Gandhi is queen. She rides so hard for the university.

You know what I'm talking about? Gary J.P. There was like this, who did they play the other day? Who, Texas? Yeah, Texas. This Texas cat just throws, like aggressively just. Oh, that's real? They really pressed charges on them?

Yeah. Well, the tweet I saw, yeah, it seemed like it was no shot. He did it to the other player, right? Texas threw down to Tennessee guy. Yeah, no way. No way they actually pressed charges. It's just a flagra foul. You think I'm getting trolled?

Yes. Classic case of college, classic case of, last in case of Will. All right. Let's stay away from Tennessee at all costs now. Hey, did it happen? No. Press charges on that.

I think you're talking about the NIL situation that we had going on like a month and a half ago. She released the statement against the state of Virginia, but you're talking about the actual player and what's the play girl about? I saw that tweet. Whoever crafted the tweet did a good job. He got to ride the plane back on the team, but he will have to appear in court. And I remember looking at the video like, damn, they can really do this? Like, it just seems like what? You can press charge on every football play. What's his name, uh, uh, Devanti Adams? Oh, yeah. We hit the photographer. I mean, pushed him a little bit.

Yeah, I'm not, yeah, I'm team Devante, but. Breaking news. The NFL has banned the hip drop. No, are you kidding me? I knew that was going to hurt you. That's a stupid fucking rule. Let's hear you. I don't know.

They haven't said anything on specifics. All right, sorry to interrupt. I got, after this hip drop penalty came out, I had to work the phones. We got Delaney here. I wanted to get Delaney. He was coming to visit the boys. He actually broke his leg on the hip drop tackle. So we got Delaney here, someone who has had experience with the hip drop tackle.

And we're also going to have special guest Kyle Long. He's been somebody who's been very vocal already in social media saying that this is a great rule, yada, yada, yada. He's already chirping and trolling the defensive players about, hey, learn to tackle better. So we're going to get him to. Then we should probably have a good little debate and argument about it. But are you kind of like pro hip drop? Like take it out? You know it's weird.

I'm kind of on both sides of the fence. I feel like since it ended me. Hey, when you came in, I was like, bro, what do you think about this hip drop tackle? He was like, that's how I broke my leg. I'm like, damn, you didn't see it? I'm like, oh, yeah, damn. I forgot the time that went down.

Yeah, so, I mean, I'm biased. I feel like that's how I ended my career pretty much with that tackle. So, yeah, I hate it. I think that it's a bullshit tackle, but is it something you can teach players not to do? No. I think it happens in the game, and you never going to know it's going to happen until it happens to you. Until you're just, and then you don't even know what's happening. You're just reacting, like, we'll get, we'll get Kyle on because he's got to fucking, he's got to hear this stuff too.

I feel like he's going to be chirping kind of. He's going to be pro new rule. Yeah, I'm sure. So we'll be able to figure out wiggle room here, but we're going to take a minute. Next time you see us, Kyle will all three be here and we'll all be ready to argue about this.

I can't wait. We might have to get up and reenact the same shit. Yeah, that's, yeah, that. Because that's true. You don't know until like, you're not, like, in my brain, I'm not thinking, damn, I'm beat, let me go to the hip drop tackle.

Yeah. It's like, damn on beat. Just get them down. Get them on the grass. Get them on the grass. I understand that when I played on special teams, I'm sure someone, that's why I don't want to say I'm pro with the rule,

because they can probably, this is their new internet, they can pull up 100 clips of me, hip dropping cats on special teams. That's right. You did do teams. So you kind of know, yeah. Yeah.

So, and I know if you beat me, I'm dragging you down. Like, I'm going to put all my weight to drag you down. It's not that I'm trying to land on your ankles. I'm literally just trying to get you. down. So I understand that. That's why when a buddy broke my leg, I wasn't even mad at him because it was part of the game and he was just trying to get me down. And that's pretty much what it is. But is it a good rule? I mean, how many ankles have we seen get broke in the last

four or five years? Enough to make that a rule? I think it's enough to make that a rule. You think there's enough? You think it's enough? I think it's enough. I just feel like it would be good to know the data, I guess. Like I could be talking out of term without understanding all the data. I'm just thinking, like, to me, it seems like it doesn't happen enough to make it a rule. You're saying like there's been enough to where it could be like, okay, that could be looked at. It's been enough. It may not have been where they broke their ankle, but it's been significant injuries where guys...

But I wonder what percentage of guys get injured on a hip drop tackle. You know what I mean? Just like, okay, we've seen enough. injuries, but how about the ones we haven't seen that haven't been injured? True. But they're saying it. So some of the highlights I saw y'all post earlier, it was guys who got hit, drop, tackled it, but didn't get hurt.

They popped right up, but it looked it like they got hurt pretty much. Kyle, can you hear us? Yeah, you guys talking about cheesy tackles or what? Okay, here comes ex-offensive lineman Kyle Long. Yo, I got to give a shout-out to my man right here. One of the best tight ends to ever do it, and me and him have never really had any crossover and I laugh so fucking hard every time I get Compton on the set with old D-Walk over here. So funny, it's good to be on here with you, bro.

Oh, same here. Thanks, man. Hey, so this would be a nice little roundtable discussion because Kyle, you're already making your sounds out there on social media trolling what you do best. And I think it's absurd that this is a rule. Now we have Delaney here who broke his leg from a hip-drop tackle. That's what essentially ended his career. He can never really get back right since that tackle. But he's kind of on the fence of being like, yeah, it's a bullshit tackle,

but also like that's the nature of the game. Why do you feel like it's such a good? Why are you out there being like, oh, this is a good rule? This is a positive rule. Do you know the data? We're cleaning things up. It's not like we're changing the framework of the game, bro. We're taking a play that happens once a game and more.

Now we've seen it happening more. Guys see that it works. I mean, obviously, we can get a guy down. You take their legs out. You drop on the back of their legs. bad things happen. But look, it happened once a game per game in the NFL. So we're not, it's not like changing the game. People love to bitch about Taylor Swift. They love to bitch about things that happen once a game. It seems to be a theme around NFL fans. And I just think that if you're a real fan of the

NFL, you want the best product on the field. In order to do that, you want the starters, the elite players on the field. Who's going to get the ball at an astronomical rate compared to other guys? The stars. And if they're getting tackled at a hip-drop tackle, things could happen that are bad, your team is without one of the best. Now, I'm a football fan on Sunday. I can't bet on X, Y, or Z team because all their guys got hip drop. Right, but essentially it's still going to be a part of the game. It's like injuries will still happen and now it can just be penalized so it can actually decide it probably, like the chances of it are like you said, it's one tackle the game and the chances of it actually happening in a critical moment is low. But the moment it does happen

and somebody doesn't get injured and a hip drop tackle is made to keep somebody short on a crucial third down, it's going to piss everybody off because now the game is now in the hands of the referees. True. Like, do we have the data on a hip-drop tackle? The game would be in the hands of the tackler, right? I mean, there's a certain number of tools you have as a football player. And as an offensive lineman, there are a certain number of ways to skin a cat in regard to run blocking

and pass-blocking. There were certain things that were globally accepted as legal. There were certain things that they were in the gray area. And there's certain things that you as a defender, when you see guys do it, you say, that's fucking dirty. I wish it wasn't even in the league, but it's part of the league. So on the other side of the fence for you, there's certain things that are acceptable. We can all agree that should be out of the league. This is one of those things that I think is a non-negotiable thing.

Like, we're going to keep guys healthier. It's not telling you you can't hit guys hard. As a matter of fact, it's not even a hard hit. It's a hip drop. It's a lazy man's way to get a guy down. Go put your shoulder pad and somebody sternum if you want to make a statement. How do you go, sorry, go ahead. So should we change the box of where we can hit a player?

Because now you're saying, go and hit this guy, put your shoulder pass in his stoner. But sometimes when you do that, you get a penalty from doing that too. If you hitting them in a certain area. It's unfortunate. It's the nature of the violent game that we play. And I mean, we've seen so many terrible things happen to guys. That's what we've had to trim the fat, tweak the margins. And this is something that we're going to have to play with.

Is it one of those rules that's going to stick forever? I'm not sure. I think there could be a better penalty for it. Like you're saying, this is one of those things that people are going to get bent out of shape over, but it's a trial period. Our game goes through this. The only thing that's constant in the NFL is change. And I know people are like, what would Dick Book say about this?

Well, the game that he played was drastically different than the one that we're all in love with during the football season. So I hope that people can come to an agreement here eventually, but I'm just really glad that player safety is obviously being prioritized. The union made a statement saying that this is not what the union wants. As you're talking about player safety, they even went from that angle and said, yes, player safety taken into account, this is not a rule that we want to see come into play. And I guess, again, you do a great balance. You have the, you're well-spoken, you're well-set about all this stuff, and you also have this troll side of you.

Because it's like, no one ever, it's not a lazy way of tackling. It's just you don't know you're in the situation until you're in the situation. Like if it's, Delaney and I were kind of standing up walking through it. It's like if it's third and seven and I dropped to the six, he catches it at four, his backs to me. Yeah, long stride, short, short, short, shoot. But the minute he makes a move, if he gets outside of my body and I'm trying to keep him from getting to the first down marker, I'm not thinking, okay, shit, he beat me a little bit. Let me go to the hip drop tackle. You're just thinking as a defender.

I'm trying to get him to the grass. You're just reacting however you can. It's the same thing with blocking, bro, when I line up and try to block. a guy like Julius Peppers, I know that there's going to be plays where I'm going to tow the line of illegal because I have to try to get the job done when I'm running. Okay, Delaney, you get a, you get a wide nine out there rushing and the coach says stay inside out. The next thing you know, you're too inside out. So you got to run this guy by. You got to put your hand on his hip, maybe give him a little wrench at the top of the rush. This isn't illegal, but it's gray area

stuff. We've found out, or at least I've formed the opinion of the hip drop tackle has no place in our game. Now, there's certain things. that Chris, my brother and I disagree on Greenlight about when a block when a block is over, when a guy should take his hand off the hip. And that's the stuff that's always going to be argued about across party lines here. And there's things that Delaney and I are going to agree on. And there's things that Will and I are going to vehemently disagree on. But that's the beauty of this game. We're passionate. We love the game of football. And hopefully this is another step towards making our game better. I think it's a step in the wrong direction. I think it's a step to making a game

better. Just like you said, you want to see the star players on the field. You want to see the star players on the field. I don't come to see the third string tied in play. You get what I'm saying? Like, that's what the NFL wants. They want their starters on the field. And we got to protect the starters. Obviously, this is something that they feel is hurting a lot of key players. And we've been seeing it over the past year. It's an offensive league. Truly, like literally every rule goes in favor of the offensive. People are some people to swallow, Will. It's an Offensive league. It is.

There's some sports out there that are jealous that it's a football world we live in. Yeah. But that's just the cold, hard truce and the realities. People like to watch, you know, points put up on the board. You don't go to the strip club to get chicken tenders, Will. Okay? Okay. You want points on the board.

No, people love seeing people separate the ball from the ball carrier. Those hits are gone. You barely land on a quarterback the wrong way. There's such a gray area there. I hate that. I do. Well, that's part of it. It's like learn a tag.

tackle better. Oh, don't have a lazy way of trying to get after the quarterback. See, that's not a learn to tackle better situation. Oh, don't follow. Maybe we're valuing the safety too much. I mean, I think some of these guys can get panicked on the ground a little bit and have the weight drop on them without it being a brain shot, an ACL shot, or that Tibb fib hip drop, you know? So as a fan of rushers, Chris Long's my brother, bro, ton of sacks in the NFL. Howie Long raised me. That's my dad. I love getting after the quarterback as much as anybody. And I love the violent hits.

I love seeing that kind of stuff. But there's some hits that are violent that ended injury more often than not. And the injuries take a long time to come back from. You're robbing not only your team from the performance, fans from the entertainment value, but these players are potentially taking care of their families. Well, yeah, you flip side, a guy getting cut from the team because he couldn't get a guy out of the grass because he's got to think, let me ride this guy a few more yards. I just gave up a master's play.

Hey, you know, we need to come after next and it's fucking pancakes then. If we're talking about body weight, we're trying to not make the game as physical. Anytime you see a pancake from an offensive guy and their body lanes on top of them, should we not be thinking about the safety defender at that point? Definitely not. You know what? You're right. And that's why I think that this offense, that's like if an offensive lineman gets flatbacked,

if I get bull rushed by Aaron Donald and I get planted on the ground, I don't think that he deserves to be pedal. I deserve to go take more reps in the weight room. Yeah. I deserve to go take more reps after practice in one-on-ones to get. my hand placement better to put myself in a position to where I don't end up in that situation. And as far as the rushers landing on the quarterbacks, I mean, get the ball out quarterback. Get the ball out.

You watch all these rushers that get pissed off playing against guys like Tom Brady. They're like, just stop throwing it so damn fast. Stop getting the ball out. So that's how you prevent stuff like that. I just think that this rule is going to decide a big game at some point this year. It will. Definitely. It will.

And do we know, like, do we know the data behind these hip drop tackles? Like, yeah, we've seen some injuries happen recently over the last few years. Obviously, we're kind of like zoomed in and spotlighting this hip drop tackle now that it's been coined. And what about the guys that we don't see get injured? Like, do we actually know the injury rate? Or are we just like, oh, whatever we can to keep a star player on the field? I think it's enough star has been injured for them to feel like this needs to be changed. That's the type of injury, Delaney, right?

Yeah, the broken ankle. Yeah, it's not just like, I got a low ankle. I got to tape this thing up this week. It's like, I have to go get MRIs and X-Rex regs. Yeah, yeah. Broken. Yeah, trust me, I hate that. Dislocated.

Yeah. Basically ended your career. I hate it. I hate it. But to fight for my defensive guys out there, like, everyone acts like this is some premeditated instinctual thing like in the moment. And it's not. It's like, well, fuck, how in the hell we have to be so specific in how we tackle now?

And there are some grayers where you don't even know what you don't even know what you. you're doing so you go to the sideline and coach's just like look man i don't know i don't know i don't i've seen yeah like you know vraib yeah brave's always pro the rule like hey that's just the rule now that sucks that guys will get hit in this tournament and it'll be called for like an upper i know because it's in the moment it's so fast and you can't review it and that's the thing like we've taken the we don't we're not able to go back a review like hey was this even a legal hit yeah yeah i just think it's a it's a it's a it's a sad loss for the defender it's a sad loss for the I think it's an important reaction, the distinction between the coaches that are going to complain about this and use it as a crutch and the coaches that find a way to improve their tackling.

You may see some units come out there with some really elite tackling tool belts, as it were, Compton. You know, guys who are trained up the right way. You know that's false. You know what happens here, Kyle. Guys are going to be going to practice now doing some extra stupid-ass drill that we're all like, God. There's definitely going to be some extra done drills. We're doing this because coaches just want to cover their ass and say that they're teaching. this. We know that's how it's going to be.

It's a cover-your-ass league, man. There's always that week. There's always that week, whether it's the, I think it's the spring where all the positions get to practice all the different tackling circuits. You know, it's like the big guys go to the crash pad and we're going to work on cutting corners. And it's the most fun 10 minutes you'll ever do in the NFL, I think. You're in mesh shorts and you're practicing tackling. You're 350 pounds and you're tackling dummies. Because in your brain, you're not going to have to. ever really be in that situation. You're just having fun with a new drill. It's like PE class for you.

For us, we're thinking like God. Nobody was more prepared for an interception than your boy, okay? How many tackles you got? I got a couple. I filled up like half a hand, I think. Yeah. Like three? You probably had a hit drop in there. Oh, I fucked up some guy on the Cowboys one time. I got to find it on film, but there was an inters. I was a rookie. So I was just like, fearless. After my rookie year, I just played safety on all the interceptions. I ran straight to the end zone. I directed traffic. But my rookie year, bro, I was out there just tackling motherfuckers. And there was one in the Cowboys game. I definitely got to find it was violent, bro.

You would have appreciated it. Yeah, I'm sure I would have. I didn't take you for the pro. This makes the game better. I really didn't. I opened up the bird. I opened up the X this morning. I saw your nonsense being spewed.

You're already battling the trolls back, trolling them even harder. Like this motherfucker man, who's a man note of violence, it seems like, anyway, wants to make the game softer. You know what? This is great discourse. I love the NFL, and I'm glad that we have something that we can passionately argue about. It's better than being bored with the game. No question.

Hey, so you're pro. This makes the game better. I think it makes the game better. I just think it protects the players that need to be on the field. And I'm all about having the players that need to be on a field, be on a field and player. You know me. When a second string guy came in third string, I'm like, who? Yeah, but that's because you just practice more during that year.

What do you mean? What do you mean? What do I mean? You had all the off days. You had every vet off day imaginable. Maybe your, maybe your bone would have been a little bit more sturdier had you been practicing all off season. Why are you thinking it was all jacked up?

They would make me practice every day. No, I'm not letting you have that. We got to go that route, the NBA route, where they give us days off. Like, they start like, I mean, we all got vet days. Like, if you're a dude, you've experienced vet days. And each team is different. But I think that if we continue to go in this direction, like, people can't see it for what it is.

We are moving in the direction of the National Basketball Association. We are going to have ridiculous contracts that we're going to be able to attain because the NFL has taken care of us with rule changes. And the techniques have changed to be able to allow for less, you know, less, not, I want to see explosive plays. I want to see less destructive plays. I want to see things, you know, I want to see the same roster every week, you know. And that's just not something that happens in the NFL. we need to move towards that and I think this is the league taking a step in that direction that was a big one I know college is getting softer by the day bro I just hope we all get

richer less destruction no yeah no no you're right you're right you're right you make very good points and I could just be the the the the old man mad that we're not we're not part of this league just yelling at the cloud yeah yelling at the cloud but delaney had a good point hey go ahead and talk about your olympics theory oh yeah I was saying I'm I'm and maybe in a few decades or so NFL could become a flag football league what you think? Because the Olympics now have it as have a sport they have it as a sport

it's like Mario Kart there's 50 100 150 CC there's got to be levels to this shit I mean the NFL has to be the NFL and we have to we have to be able to retain that brutal you know classic game which we're going to refine it's going to be classy but then we're going to have you know the two-hand touch league then we're going to have the flag league. Then we're going to have the women's league. We're going to have the 18 and under

Olympics. I'm all for it, Delaney. It's such a great game. And you look at games that have been like international sensations like soccer and basketball and it's just easy to pick up and easy to play. If you reduce the amount of equipment, it is going to open the doors for more people. And, you know, that

wealth gap is going to be closed. He calls a politician. I'm telling you, bro. I'm telling you. And for context, everybody listening, both of these guys, Kyle and Delaney that we're talking to in this distance, they both wear the shield still to some capacity so they can't talk as openly as freely as they'd like to. I'm a free-range chicken, homie. I don't know about you, Delaney, but, you know, they can slap whatever logo on my chest, but I'm going to be me. Me too. They like me because I say what I say.

That's why they keep your one hundred with them. I like this is great. Yeah, I like Kyle's take earlier. Like it's something that creates a good debate, a good argument, gets everybody. passionate and fired up about something because somebody I had already said a couple things and a few people are like you're still going to watch it's like well you know shit I'm going to watch it's my it's my favorite sport like I will always watch into Kyle's note on like there's going to be 18 there's going to be all these different leagues like I yeah I can't wait to hopefully be consumed by all these leagues and placing terrible bets to where everybody can fade me in those leagues as well our daughters could wear the shield one day they could represent our great country

on an international scale stage being able to play against other women it would be really cool it's just it's like a pipe dream of mine like uh i was sitting there looking at my rookie minicamp binder this morning uh i was going through some old shit and my daughter was fascinated with the drawings like the the routes and stuff you know we're looking at some flood concepts she's going to frustrate some people you teach you about the hey we got to start working on this hip drop we got to get the technique out of it. Yeah, we got to teach her athleticism so she can get her hips there so she doesn't have to hip drop. Yeah, yeah, my

fight is with the guys who are, who are in the great, who might not have the most ability and they get beat every now and then on a step and you just kind of think, God damn it, this is for your next paycheck, get him down to the ground. Get him down to the ground. Go ahead. Why didn't you run your feet? Like, yeah, that sounds nice. That's exactly what they're going to say, run

your feet. Yeah. What? Yeah, that sounds nice. Get your feet there. Yeah. Yeah. It's a step-door by Derek Henry. See, what happens is you're reached. Yeah, you get outside of your body. Like, yeah, well, that fucking happens in my world every now. You reached. Or they said, see you went rogue here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see how your feet got a little wide? Like, I didn't know that they were getting wide, but goddamn. He's running at me full speed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the want me to do? All right, Kyle, I appreciate you for jumping on. Hey, thank you guys.

It's good to talk to you, Delaney. Will, fuck you, and JP went up and all the boys, Jack Mack, all the homies. All right, brother, love you. All right, my guy. All right, peace. Oh, he's great, man. I love Kyle. And he did. He's choosing violence on X right now. He's going in everybody like, okay, tough guy. Why don't you put your hand in the ground and get better in tackling?

Yeah. For somebody who doesn't, you know, he's not necessarily a tackle guy. I mean, I understand what he's saying, though. You got to keep the game the way the game is, and we want to keep the starters in the game. Yeah. If the starters are not playing, it's usually not a good game. Yeah. We know that. You may have one or two backup players that may come in and just wow you and become the man after that. But as you know, I'm so much more. And it's just, that's the guy I was. But it's like the next man up thing.

Like, okay, yeah, he got hurt fucking the next guy. Yeah. Oh, of course. Next man up. That game's going to continue no matter what happens. Of course, like you look at the DAC incident when he got hip drop, broke his ankle. Who was the quarterback that came in after him and kind of bawled out? Remind us.

Cooper Rush. he came in. Remember he came in? He had like three or four good games after that went out like, but nobody wanted to see Cooper Rush play. You get what I'm saying? And that's unfortunate. Fans want to see Dak. They want to see Dak. Ownership or their monies went. Want to see Dak. Yeah. So you know, this is an ownership rule change as well. Yeah. I mean, the competition committee, they said it was unanimous. Yeah. It's like, because they're looking at it like, okay, we paying this guy 10 million a year, 15 million, whatever it is. And he missed that year because of a hip drop tackle that ultimately breaks his ankle or tear ligaments and he's out for a whole year.

They still going to have to pay that guy whatever he's worth. Right. And he's not only that, but they also won him on the field being like, yo, you, you, you, it kind of fucks up his career. Like even when he comes back from injury, we hope he's still going to be at ease. Yeah, you better hope because I came back, played five games, was a monster them five games. I've won't have four games and then that fifth game in Denver I got took another hit

to the ankle and it was a rap I couldn't get back on the field it was just like you know you hate to have those stories but that's what happens yeah and the way again we were like joking about it but the way this will be coach

it would be like some of them bullshit but ultimately I can see like you know Vrab any head coach that I've had just being like this is part of the game now trust me I'm with you guys I don't disagree that this sucks but no matter what

we gotta accept it and figure out a fucking way to get him to the ground. If we have a bad penalty, you know, the first ones, until it gets crucial, it's going to be like,

fuck, what do you want us to do? Okay, so what's the penalty? What is the penalty? 15 yards, yeah. I'll say, what happens if you do it more than once,

that same player? Is it an ejection? Or do you get ejected out the game? Do you, so it's like a face mask. So you get, a 15 yard? I think it's just going to be a 15-yard,

automatic first-down type of thing. But if you get, keep, I'm just saying, like, what, if you repeat the same? Yeah, if you were repeat Fender, what is the, what is the penalty? Like, are you, do you get kicked out of the game? Is it a sportsman like? What is it? That would suck.

I mean, because that would change, right? I mean, what have you got a superstar, defensive player? Yeah. Are you throwing them out of the game? You throwing them out of the game? Yeah, I don't know. Are you able to look that up, Mitch? We got it.

That is actually a good argument right there because now you're going to save the offensive player and take out the star defensive player. What's the difference? Especially if nobody got hurt from the hit drop type. Especially if no one got hurt. Like what sucks is, okay, it'll be a penalty and it'll be thought of like fuck. All right, well, you try to do this. But nobody's going to, you know, this is something that you can consciously change.

I don't think so. Until like you'll probably see it years from now. Not that it really gets changed, but to where it's like, hey, you're hurting. by trying to tackle this way. Yeah. At first it'll kind of be seen like, hey, try to try something else out. Something else. But nobody's going to get like mad at you the same way you would of like, you know,

if you're repeating a holding call. Yeah, yeah, get the fuck out of the game. Or jumping off sides. Yeah, the violation will result in a 15-year-old penalty flagged in games by Troy Vincent, the NFL is executive vice president of football ops strongly implied last week that it is likely to be enforced similarly to the use of helmet rule, which typically leads to warning letters and fines in the week after the game rather than flags during the play.

Oh, wow. You get in fine. You're getting fine. From doing something that's an unintentional, instinctive nature of get this guy out of the ground. So as soon as you see that flag, you know you're getting the FedEx. Yeah. Damn.

Yeah, that sucks. So, that is what, again, if you go over the other side, it's like, that is what it is. It's going to become part of the game. Like, it's going to be talked about the same way these hard hits that are up top. Hey, this dude's getting fine. All that sucks. But it's got to go vice versa. to say we throw interception.

Offensive players do not tackle every week, every day. That is going to be a common issue for offensive players trying to tackle defensive players on interceptions. Watch, I guarantee it. Hey, let's hope because that'll be what I want to argue. Hey, where's the penalty? I'm just trying to fight for the guys that they're tackling. Like, there ain't no, you wish it was perfect every time,

but it's just not. It's not. Jeff Miller, the NFL executive, president said that there were 230 instances of tackling technique occurring during a game last season with 15 players missing time as a result. That's a lot. What is that? Yeah.

You're talking a 6% injury rate? For star players. Hang on, hang on. Is that what that said? Star players? What's being? Yeah, what we talk? What we consider it as star players? It just said 15 players, but as we can read. We add. As we can account, most of them will start players that went down. Yes, we all love the hit drop, but what you may think are the drag from behind. Tackles where he falls and is still a tackle.

This is only that tackle where the player is lifting themselves in the air and then falling on the legs. Pulling himself to him. Like he pulling you and then dropping down. Like who, so are we going to hire, you know, how these coaches be hiring this specialist to come in and teaches how to tackle? Oh, somebody will. Somebody will. Some karate specialist, type of dog kind of guy. You know, they come in.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's fucking hilarious. And then you're fighting with knives. Yeah, you're like, oh, yeah. That's going to help the hit drop tackle in some capacity. Oh, that's so crazy. It's about to be a lot of mistackles. I don't somebody, yeah, Darius Slay, it's about to be a lot of mistackles.

Of course. I don't, I don't think there will. I think it will continue just to happen. Like, I don't, like this to me wouldn't change any part of, of my game. And then if it just happens, it just happens. Same. You know what I mean? Yeah, I wouldn't go into the game worrying about it. Like, if you beat me and I tackle you from behind, it is what it is.

Because they're talking about the lift and then the legs coming up, like, more than likely, you're stronger than me. And I'm just, unfortunately, I end up getting lifted by trying to fucking bring you back down. It's the point of when you grab him, you're trying to stop him from getting the extra yards. That's what it is because you kind of like, you know how like, it's almost like tug a war. you kind of lean back and you pull. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Well, you're trying to use any part of your like leverage and weight and like the self-awareness you have with your body. You're just like, this is what feels the absolute best to get this motherfucker down right now. Right now. Because that's all we're thinking about is like, you don't want to go back inside like, damn, right, got you. Because again, the tackle we're referring to where you got that couple yards space and your backs to me, I don't know which way you're necessarily turning,

but I know I'm going to lunch to try to get you down. And the minute it feels like you're going the opposite way, you're just outside of your body. So you just think by any means necessary. What we used to call the slingshot? It's like a slingshot. You just kind of use their momentum. And you're just pulling.

If your legs come up, then it's like, you're trying to do whatever you can. Yeah, that's actually called like a cow tackle. Like they use it in roping cows. Like you'll see it a lot where they get on the horns and then they jump put in the air and they drop back to get the cow. down. Yeah, yeah. You're talking about like on their head with like on the fucking horns or

whatever. And they're just trying to rip that motherfucker down. Yeah. It'll be, it'll be, it'll be interesting. I'm just curious because again, players are still going to get hurt. It's still going to happen. I'm ready to see when it decides a game and people are going to lose their mind. I feel like it's going to be a big problem the first go around. I think the referee is going to be just because they call it, especially in preseason. It's like they're testing it out. They're going to overdo it. They're going to overdo it. And the cat's going to be just like what fans are going to be like what is going on. Players are going to be like what's going.

Coach is going to be complaining about because it's going to be just a thing. They're going to emphasize it. Like we're going to do this in preseason so you guys understand that if we see it, we're throwing it. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm in two, I feel like there's something like that literally every year. Every piece of every. They're trying to overcall and make a point about something.

Everybody gets pissed off. Every year. Every year. This will be the new thing. I mean, they need to start making a point about. the rules on overtime because I feel like we make so much, we emphasize so many rules but we leave out the key factor rules

because I feel like if the 49ers had an understanding of the rule, I don't know. Talking about taking the ball? Yeah, or having the ball second? I mean, that's the off. But a lot of players came and said they didn't understand. understand the rule. I don't think anybody, I didn't, I don't think anybody understood the rule until

they just showed us during the Super Bowl of the graphic. And then in my brain, I'm thinking, I guess we all knew this. Like, yeah, yeah, that's the rule. I had no clue. I had no clue. I was like, wait, is that new? But that was new for that year, right? Yeah, I believe so. Because I was always under the impression, if you scored a touchdown, it's over. No, no, they changed that. You got a chance to try to score. touchdown and kick a field goal. But if the game with the clock ran out in that first quarter, it was a whole, we were playing a whole new game. So we would have played four quarters, no matter what, you would have played four quarters if no one would have scored. You get what I'm

saying? Wait, what? Here's what I thought it was on the, on the Super Bowl. I thought leading up to make sure guys had an opportunity, I thought if they had a field goal, the other team then gets an opportunity to score, whether it's a field goal or a touchdown wins the game. But I thought if you scored a touchdown, the opening drive, then the game was over. Nope. Because remember, that's what happened with the first year with the Kansas City and people got pissed. Like, how is that the game over? Kansas City only scored a touchdown.

It was like, well, if you score a touchdown, so if you kick a field goal, the other team have, they changed that rule because of that with the chiefs. So that's why I said the chiefs were so prepared for this rule because it happened because of them. So it was like, oh, if you score a touchdown, down the Chiefs has the opportunity to go down and score a touchdown and then we're going to keep going

until whoever win this game. I think the Chiefs were going to go for two. Yeah. They scored a touchdown on their drive they were going to go for two. Yeah. And that would end it. That would end the game.

Yeah. But this rule is only for like overtime games in the playoffs. In the playoffs only. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, all right, all right, all right, yeah, yeah. But in the regular season, it's the one if you score first, it's home.

If you score a touchdown on your first. Got you got you got you got. That's why. That's why they. That's why they were so confused. So, because you can tell San Francisco was thinking that the clock was going to run out and the game was over. And they, but it wasn't. Super Bowl's not going to end of the time.

No. How do you? No, because they kicked the field goal. They was up by three points. San Francisco was up by three points. So they thought the game was going to be over once the clock ran dead. That's why they was all kind of sitting there. And Patrick snapped the ball with like two seconds left, confusing them a little bit.

And nobody covered the flat. And that's how they won the game. Wait, so if that clock would have ran out, they would have ran another. Yeah, they would have did one more, another quarter. Is that right? Yeah, I swear to you, bro.

That's what I'm saying. These rules, we do so many rules, and we don't even know the rules ourselves. That's what makes this game more complicated because they really don't explain it. What Mitch was saying, that the head coach should be fully aware. I mean, he came out and said he told the team,

and then other players said he never told his team. But Brock came out and said he knew. Brock Bertie said he knew. He said, he's probably just covering his own ass with saying that. Oh, okay. At that point, you're not trying to be in the line of fire. It's like I could say some dumb shins you're back. Okay, yeah, yeah, I didn't know.

He felt like, like, your check was miced up. And he was like, oh, so these are the rules as they were portraying them on the big screen. A lot of people were learning in real time. I feel like just like the fans were at home. I was like, oh, damn. So, like, clearly Shanahan did not tell them. Clearly Shanahan didn't know. I feel like he probably didn't know because, like, Andy Reed knew.

They came out and said after the game, Andy Reed, they practiced that. They were fired up that the Niners took the ball first. They couldn't believe it. They couldn't believe it. They was like, wait, they just took the ball. You see how he looked when he said he took the ball? Oh, he was ready. Oh, we kicked that way.

He was ready. It was over with. They knew. I was like, oh. Damn, my dogs, they damn. Damn. Yeah, I didn't know that it goes to another quarter. Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying.

So these rules... Games changing every year. Every year. Every year, they're going to find something before they can find players. They're like, okay, now our salary is going up. We've got to find these guys even more now. Like, let's find ways to just take money from them.

Yeah. Pretty much that's what's happening. Yeah, yeah. Well, appreciate you coming on. We will, and again, this was a great interruption because the hip drop tackle rule just came out. But D, thank you for coming on. And by the way, people might be seeing Delaney

throughout the course of the spring tour potentially. Mm-hmm. The mule. Yeah, the mule. But all right, back to the episode. When you do a hip-drop tackle, the defensive player in his mind, there's no part of him that's thinking,

I'm doing something to try and hurt this guy illegally. Because, number one, every rule is centered around offense in football. Like, they get every fucking rule. When you're breaking down to tackle, it's not like there's, there's, everybody has this perfect idea of like, keep your feet tight, keep your feet hot, moving, long strike, short strides, shoot, all this dumb shit that you practice consistently all the time without taking into account that it doesn't, that it just doesn't, it's not a perfect

game all the time. You're not in the perfect situation in football. So when you're breaking down and going, right, and one guy, the offensive player, gets a step on you and you get a little bit outside your body and you are now sideways on the offensive player. And the whole thing is not only am I trying to get him to the ground, but I'm not trying to ride him to where he gets two or three or four extra more yards. You're trying to stop him and bring him backwards as much as you can. So if you get to the side, your first instinct is to pull so he doesn't gain more yardage. That is the dumbest fucking rule and I'm tired of the NFL

becoming so soft with these rules. They think they're protecting, but they're not. You want to protect, get fucking grass and not turf on every field. Every premier soccer team that comes to the U.S. and plays somewhere, they get natural grass put in to the field. And we don't take care of our guys like that. And they want to, they're going to angle from the side of safety. But it's just another fucking offensive rule that they think is dangerous. Like, yeah, it's unfortunate.

But that is football. That's the nature of the game. You really do. When you're like a little kid and you're playing football on the front, yard and the only way to get somebody bigger than you down is that. And when you're a little kid, you're not thinking like, oh, hip drop. It's like grab on, go down and just try to get him down. Like imagine, I'll use Derek as the example, but imagine like as Derek, Derek Henry gets lateral on you, right? And he's got the stiff arm. When you were in practice, you're being taught,

chop the stiff arm and then, you know, obviously grab him, get him with the ground. But you're already sideways, so you're you trap and you're not going to just keep running with the offensive player. Like, that is fucking insane, man. I might get back into the league. I would have never made it. You're talking about these cats having a step on your boy and you just got to get them to the ground anyway. How?

Like, you're within the five yards. You're within five yards of the goal line. I tell you big win for offensive players. Big win for offensive players. What are they doing with kickoff now? No more like surprise onside kick. It's the XFL. kickoff now where it's like

where everybody's within like 10 or 15 yards and that you just have the return are deep and the kicker like you kick it and then you're not allowed to run until the guy like catches the ball and then there's like in they're saying the new the new touchback is like you bring it out to the 35 and but I think the ball hits

in play and then rolls into the end zone it gets ball like the 15 or something I think it's ridiculous the 15 or 20. There's a whole lot more rules that go into the kickoff more than just a touchback or not. Can you type in new kickoff rule, Jack? Yeah. Like, everybody, everybody has to be in. I know, no, it is unfortunate. There are cats who are like bubble players that are, that get their name because they flash on kickoff or punt at gunner. I don't think pun's getting ex-was, but they flash on like kickoff, right? Because they're like the first guy down or it's truly

just effort. You can tell they're just scrapping for that first NFL paycheck. And that's going to suck for guys like that. All right, here we go. It'll be decided Monday, which is today. Okay, of the 22 players on the field of play, 21 of them will be the receiving team, will be in the receiving team's territory. That number will break down like this for the kickoff team. All right, the kicker will be by himself. The kicker will be set up, will set up the ball at his own 35-yard line. he won't be able to cross midfield until the ball is in play the ball will be considered in play if the returner catches it or if the ball hits the ground in the landing zone I'm assuming that's before the goal line or if the ball gets to the

end zone like rolls the end zone like you're saying Mitch coverage team will be lined up together the other 10 players excluding the kicker will be lining up on the receiving team's 40 yard line each player has to have at least one foot on the 40 before the play can start. Also, the kicking team has to have five players on each side of the ball so they won't be able to load up one side. As for the receiving team, their setup will be slightly different. Most of the receiving team will be at the 35-yard line. So these guys will be five yards apart. The receiving team has a five-yard setup zone that runs from its own 30 to its 35. Seven players from the receiving team must have their foot on the 35-yard line.

the receiving team can also have two more players who are in the setup zone, but who aren't touching the 35-yard line, those players will be lined up outside of the hashes. The receiving team can have two returners. I mean, go down. If you're someone who, you can, hopefully you can put this chart up. They say, here's a look at, here's a look at it if you're more of a visual learner. So it sounds like there'll be 10, 10 kickoff guys lined up on the opponent's 40.

and then the receiving team will be set up on the 35-yard line. So they'll be five yards apart. The receiving team will have a five-yard setup zone. So you know how you drop back in the coverage, setup, doubles, whatever it is. You only get five yards to do that. So you'll literally be setting up. They'll be 10 yards apart for when the play happens. Then you get two returners.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I guess we'll have to see how it looks. I'm sure they're going to run this stuff in preseason no matter what. Do we know if that rule is getting passed? It's not officially passed. They vote. They're voting today. day like as we're talking about it no fun league man that hip drop is is so bad that is such a bad

rule yeah you see jerry jones his paper yeah yeah yeah the scrote it had to be practicing his like it like it looked like when you just practice your autograph and yeah just scribbling all over it yeah that sucks man that sucks about the uh the hip drop tackle the hip drop tackle Um, in other news, J.P., he's back with us. J.P.'s back with Bustin with the boys. Made some good waves on, what was that, Thursday? Yeah, Thursday. Would you like to drop an official statement, JP?

Would you like me to talk about it? I saw, I saw you battling back and forth with some guys. I'd like you to go first. Okay. So, J.P. has a pure heart. And I think muddies his water at times when he sees some opportunities for content. This is a prime example. And I'm pumped that you went with it because there's a part of me.

I was like, once we started to get to, I'm up in the air and I'm like, have you tweeted it, posted? I'm thinking like, now is where he might think, like, I don't know if we should go. I don't know if he wants to go this route. That point, I had to go that route. Yeah, I know. Where else I'm just. I put it in the group chat, hey, here's what we're going to do. But I texted JP and I was like, here, I'll read the text to you guys.

Is that like 7.15 a.m. Yeah, I'm flying to Chicago. And I'm just caffeineed up. Lucy. It's Russell Lucy in my brain just ready to go. Here we go. Thursday. Yeah, we had a lot of texts.

Just fast forward on this part, Mitch. Well, as Will's looking for it, when he sends, he's like sending this whole thing. And I'm like already kind of feeling uneasy about it. And then I didn't respond for like two to three minutes. And he just, it's back. It would be hilarious. I'm like, oh, God. That's what I knew.

I'm like, I don't know if there's. Then he turned it back. I said, are you in the shop today? I can't remember when you leave because JP had a wedding. He's like, yeah, I'm there. I said, idea for you. Do it post today, quitting Bustin'Bus and going to happy hour at Dave and Busters. And J.P. goes, any ideas on how to make it funny or like non-ad-like?

Obviously, I'll try to brainstorm, but didn't know if you already have something in your head. And JP sent in, I already had a full caption. As very few of you know today is my official last day with Bustin with the Boys. legit a bit bittersweet feeling because I'm sad to be done working with the guys who have become like family to me but I'm also very excited for this next opportunity I can't say what it is but I'll have a video later this morning and I was like something like that and then you just go to Dave and Busters to make your video there excited to announce that I'll be at Dave and Busters for their free happy hour whatever the whatever the deal is blah blah

blah could be hilarious JP I got you oh man let me see here two options Because I go, you're like, due to recent events, today is my official last day of bus. And I was like, you got two options. Make it seem like we had to part ways because ultimately you were the point man for the emails where people try to battle over the decision or a new opportunity that you can't pass up where people go sentimental route. And I'm just thinking in my head, like, because after everything unfolded, what was that, Monday or Tuesday?

Was that Monday? Yeah, Monday. When we missed the bracket busters. and Dave went off, went off on us on the bracket Busters. Then we did the show and Dave called in and kind of gave it to us verbally. And then throughout that week, we're kind of over, we're trying to like, how can we make this right with David Busters? Because that does suck that we didn't show up.

But how can we accept what happened and fucking, you know, how can we be creative in doing something to make it right? And the next day when we come into the shop, I remember thinking about I should at least go take a picture. I come in, J.P.'s like, hey, you should go to Dave and Busters. Jack comes in. He's like, hey, we should go make videos and content of Dave and Busters. Everybody's kind of like on board that we need to go to Dave and Busters if we're going to make this stuff right. All the boys are telling us. So we go out that day and we do all of our Dave and Busters content.

We know getting messages from the high ups at Barsool like, hey, Dave and Busters, they're pumped about it. They think it's funny. Like, thank God you guys did this. Like way to basically GBOT, get back on track. And so I'm just continuing. to figure out like how we can we can play this up because you hear people talking about you know you read some of the comments on youtube from the video like you know taking bullets like i'm the only one taking bullets like nobody else is saying nothing like oh it seems like will's just smiling you can see what kind of guy is like he's not taking serious all the guys in the back are laughing thinking that this is a big fucking joke like no we are we were mentally in a blender but there's

sometimes you just got to like you got to be able to take it on the chin have a, not have a smile on your face, but ultimately, like, there, you know that nothing drastic of like, hey, we got to split up. Because at the end of the day, you would have thought we were a March Madden, you would have thought we were a March Maddenist podcast. Like, we're some college basketball podcast. We had never shown up on the Barso Bracket Busters. We'd always been told that, hey, this is going to be your team riding them into the end.

Now, this is obviously, it was a much bigger sponsored event, a lot more dollars behind it. We've been seeing some of the unfoldings about whether it's Mincy with the Combine or guys not showing up. Remember Titus got something for a big sponsored event. So there are things that feed up that have fed in the day's mind of like these motherfuckers just ever people fucking up when we have highly sponsored stuff. We've had our hiccups recently with whether it's the draft king stuff or not reading an email for the day of the Super Bowl that played up in us getting reamed. So you see all this stuff and you're just thinking like thank God we the boys figured out how to like make this stuff right because at the end of the day it's a content.

game. It's a content business. Like it's all media. It's all entertainment. Like how can we take this reaming and spin it into making more content off of it without being like dickheads without like, you know, going the routes, being silent about it. Like, okay, we kind of just took that. We're not going to say anything else about it. We're just going to be quiet. It's like, how do you make content? How do you have creativity and like make content with all the boys? Which we did. And everybody was very pleased to where I think Dave and Busters might be coming back around and working more with the company, with Barsu, with Bustin, because of all that stuff. So we fast forward into going to Chicago, and I just have this idea for JP because you see people like, why don't you have a fall guy?

Like, not a fall guy, but why don't you have somebody checking emails? Why don't this? Why don't that? Everybody kind of having an opinion on it. So it's like, how can we lean into it more by having JP or having somebody to make content? I knew Jack was going to Chicago. JP, he kind of, he's seen as like a producer for all the stuff that we do. So I was like, how can we make it seem like JP's kind of a fall guy, but make it seem like there's quiet.

private conversations that happened. We're all good, but there's some undertone of JP kind of just moving on, but saying everything's all good, bust of her life, but also I'm excited for this. Basically, JP's kind of standing on business or I'm not going to be talked to like this in a private conversation. We're saving face by making it seem like it's all good between us, but there's a question mark of what the fuck's going on? You played it perfectly. You crushed it. I know you took a lot of people being like, okay, they were legit set. I'm getting a lot of of text. You show me. J.P. still getting a fuckload of messages. He has over 160 not the flux, but also flexed that his text message chain has been run up over this whole fiasco. Dave comes in

and sits down. He's like, hey, what the fuck happened? Did your guy quit? Did you fire? Like, what happened with this? What happened with this producer that's going on? And big cat's like, yeah, apparently it's a bit or something. And I was like, I was like, yeah. I mean, we're just making, we're making more content off it. Nothing happened. Everything's all good. He's doing a callback to now we're at Dave and Busters because the whole play of Dave and Busters was, hey, go to Happy Hour on March 21st. Whether you're working, if you're working that day, skip work or work from Dave and Busters. PFT had a tweet that sparked my inspiration from me. He's like, what a great day to quit your job and go to Dave and Busters. And so all of it kind of festered in,

let's do another callback to D&B on March 21st with all the boys. I saw your video like one eats, we all lead. All the boys are there at Dave and Busters, taking photos. I thought it was played beautifully. I know. I just, I feel like because I have a smaller following that I do, like, you know,

I try to reply to people like throughout the weeks, whatever, like build these little relationships with people. So then when that happens, I truly feel like I'm connected with a decent amount of my followers and they're sending me the nicest messages in the DMs. And I'm like, oh my God.

Then you got people who are in the gray who know you, who probably don't communicate with you all the time, It's kind of given like a, damn, I thought you were really gone. Like, I kind of can't trust you, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, and it just, I made me feel so bad. I mean, it worked. And shout out to all the new followers out there. I was going to say you guys.

But, man, yeah, I did. I felt, I just wanted the people to know that I felt bad misleading, misleading the people. There was, well, I did send JP a text. I said, your good heart is blinding you from the bigger picture. Which I thought it was good content. I thought it was good content. I'm like to continue to play into. Caleb text me, Presley, and said, brother, exclamation, point.

I was like, what's up? He's like, you're leaving the bus. And I explained it to him. He said, classic will with the death jokes. I was like, oh, I could just talk about the Theo Vaughn. Yeah, the Theo Vaughn stuff, which, by the way, I feel like hasn't gotten fully until we get Theo on the bus. There's finally a conversation to be had about how much of just a set-up joke that was that in his, in his, in his, following things. It's like, oh, Will's just a bad person.

Who fakes a death? Yada, yada, yada. But, yeah, I thought it was great. I went in when I got to draft to the sports book. There were so many people, like, Fasoli, he goes, he's like, dog, you fucking had me. He's like, I was, he said, I was so hurt. I was like, text me ASAP. Yeah. He said, I was so hurt to see that.

Like, other people like, hey, is that real? Big Cat was even like, hey, so what happened to your guy? But we were on camera, so I thought he was kind of just, he understood. of understood the bit. Fyte sent me a message. He was like, bro, it was honestly so nice. He was like, man, like, loved getting to chop it up with you. Like, let's make sure just because you're gone, like that it's not the last time we hang out.

Like, all the best. I'm like, God, Fyce is such a real one. Oh, I'm sorry to make you like the fucking goat that comes up for the, for the T-Rex in Jurassic Park just sitting there. Because another thing that sucks is if something ever does happen, it's like you almost kind of blew your water on the... I said, now I got to wait at it. least six months to play. Yeah. Hey, there goes my plan. I got to hold this one out a little bit more.

I thought the, I thought the content was good from it. No, we had a good little, good little get right, good little make right. We were owning into all the do what? We were owning the internet. Yeah. Yeah, we were, we made it, we made it into something. I was telling MB, I was telling MB and Jack Mack, I know he's in with like the draft king stuff or Dave and Busters. I'm like, hey, rumor has it. Like, you guys can now add in an extra responsibility, making sure the busing guys and guys know their information because I know we make you guys work overtime a little bit more now. And they kind of like laugh because they're like if there's an example of handling it, you guys would be the example for other brands handling it that way, which, hey, shout out the

boys, not to flex and put everybody else in a tough spot. But that's how we do it with us with the boys. But I appreciate you doing that. I know it kind of hurt your soul a little bit. I was following along the weekend when I would get in the reply, well, I'd see your replies. I was like, man, he's really trying to reply and make sure, hey, I will earn your trust back everybody. Another way to earn your trust back, Verizon. I'm always relying on my phone to keep up with the latest news, football, sports, JPs replies, and everything in between. Whether you're streaming

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And Dave and I are solid, like people who might question that Dave hates us or they say like, the boys are solid. The boys are solid. As long as we make content off bad content. Like you can rest assured the boys will be solid. Whoa, great fucking great by G. We are going to our spring tour kicks off this week. TBD on how we're going to release everything

because some of our visits are spaced out a little bit. Last year to give you guys some perspective and context, the years prior, years past, we've gone to a new school every week and released the content the following week within like a three or four week span. This year, we're going to Florida. state this week. Tallahassee, we leave, you're listening on Tuesday, we leave today, we're going to be

shooting content today and tomorrow with the head coach and some of the players with coaches and players. We go to Nebraska, like the first weekend of April. So not like, not bang, bang, not like right after Florida State. And then we're doing Oregon third week. Yeah, third week of April and Alabama the fourth week of April. So stay tuned on how we're going to kind of drop that content because we would like to have it bang we would like to have it back to back to back so you might not be getting florida state next week exactly um but also right now we do have some some some sad and good news some sad news is i believe we might be pulling the plug what's up gee the jp really quit yeah yeah the tough news is i think we're going to be

pulling the plug on this first live show. The boy Taylor, as you see, he's not with us right now. He got a massive opportunity, and he is out of the office for the next month. The boy is, we can't really say what it is, but he's on site, working on something, and he might be in the next TV star. That's what we'll give you.

Taylor's working on a TV series right now. He might be the next TV star. That's all we can give you. But Taylor is out for, for the next month. So the boy, he loves to do the live shows. I know we got to provide three of them. We will be doing the one at Nebraska

because let's just call a spade of spade. We got Coach Roolocked in for Nebraska. You kind of don't need the boy at a spot like Nebraska. Now we'll be moving to one where we're going to look to do because there's a couple, there's honestly a couple things that we kind of hurt ourselves on. We want to expand in the new college football worlds

like with new college football fan bases. So we're going to places like, Florida State and Oregon. However, when you go into these corners of the country where our fan base isn't that big, we're also doing, we also like to do live shows when we're on our spring tour. However, if we want to make good content for those fan bases in the digital world, you want to go to the organs of Florida States. But if you're trying to do a spring tour around live shows, like when comedians tour, you go into your niche places before you expand and build out. Our dumbasses, we'd be like, oh, let's do a live show here, let's do a live show there. We sell like four tickets.

to some of these spots because nobody has really any idea. Or they might, but they're not close enough tied in to where, hey, we want to get to a show. Or we're going to book a flight that fly to, where's Oregon? Eugene, yeah, Eugene. We're out in Tallahassee. Now we sold a little bit more than four tickets to Tallahassee. But not a huge amount. For those people who are going, who had bought tickets to the Tallahassee live show,

I know we're going to like do a make, right. Either way, we're going to be at Pott Bellies hanging out, mingling, having a good time at Pop Belly, just to have that engagement, that person. So if you, that personal interaction, so if you are going to Talhassee, you had bought tickets, like, we're still going to be there. We're just not going to be running this live show because Taylor, he can't be, he can't be a part of it because the boy had to take a last minute. And it is, it's a big opportunity for him. I'm fired up for him. He's going to do really good at it. He's going to knock it out of the park. It was kind of like one of those things. He was super excited about doing it. He didn't want to bail on the boys. And we were kind of just like, dog, you can't pass up this opportunity. He needs to go do this thing. So we'll be doing the spring tour at Florida State in Oregon.

We won't be doing live shows there because the boy won't be with us. We're going to be looking at doing it here in Nashville. So be on the lookout for those details, whether it's at, you know, the bar stool, whether it's at the barstool bars, Zanis, Riemann, any of these spots, be on the lookout. We're going to be doing one in our own backyard because we realize, like, we're idiots if we're just going to try to do live shows and all these different parts of the country without, like, obviously sprinkling where our base is the best. And that is in our own backyard with Nashville, with Lincoln, the Brackard.

Nebraska. So we'll be doing shows there. Just follow us at Buston WTB. Gee, anything I'm missing with that? We can cut this if I'm not sure, but those people that bought tickets will get refunded. Okay, so we know that that's going to, okay, perfect. Still coming out. I don't know this 100%, but it feels like that should be the right thing to do. Absolutely. And you guys get me hopped up enough, hand me a mic. That's why I was like, I don't want that to be misleading. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. You will be getting reimburse. You will be getting your money back. You get me hopped up enough. Come have a beer. And hand me a mic. You never know what can happen. We'll still be,

we'll still be hanging out. I'll be taking photos. We'll be doing 20 minutes. It'll be turned into a big time mean, greet, party together, all that fun stuff. We'll be doing that. We just won't be having the theatrics of a live show and you will be getting refunded your money. So, just FYI. Very good point. Gee, do not want to be, have muddy water when explaining that. You will be getting refunded for this, for this, if you bought tickets for the people who bought tickets. I think it was like 25, 30. Was it 40?

Did you jump up to 40? That would be a nice party. It'll be a fun party. Yeah, it was like eight people. But Will's doing 20 minutes of stand-ups. Come out. Yeah. JP's like, oh man, that sucks.

And we're going to pull up. Will just do stand-up. Like, I'm just some natural. Like, I've done my rounds. I have a set. Will's just do 20 minutes to stand-up. I believe in you, bro. It's not that I don't believe in myself.

You just know me. get insanely like right now if I even start to think about it the nerves are sky high because I want to do well like I want to have something for the people versus just sweating my ass off and just bombing speaking of bomb we have Brian Baumgartner on for the interview I know we've talked a lot about everything else our interview is Brian Baumgartner from the office he's most well known for the office he was a fun conversation that'll be a good time for those who are tuned in right now watching what else has anything whole free agency

sneed yeah welcome the titans getting uh what's his first name legarius legarius sneed he's a dog you think everybody think okay yeah you know because he be put he's a former chief

yeah he's a chief yeah you know I'm bummed out but that's good Tennessee's been having a quiet little they've been having a good off season they've been having a quiet little The whole AFC South has been really just Texans and Titans. Yeah, Texans will be good.

But, yeah, no, Sneed is a big pickup. Everybody knows the clip, too. I don't think we can use it because of NFL copyright. But when Sneed was just dogging Hill at the line of scrimmage, bodied him, bodyed him. No, but that's a big pickup. I know Jeff Simmons, he's happy. I know he had a tweet saying, like, help me, help you.

That's what you need. need them coverage sacks, just under pressure, picks. Any other movement in the NFL? I feel like I've been in a hole just, again, watching the tournament from 11 a.m. to midnight, so I hadn't really saw a whole lot of NFL free agency news. Do we want to hit our shout-out? No free shout-out?

Have some fun shout-out, no-free shout-out? And guys, bear with us. like we have a 50 minute interview 45 50 minute interview with brian um we're obviously running this intro right now but the boys we got ads i know you guys fucking hate the ads all the time uh but we love them we love the ads we especially love duke cannon because as always the boys have a special code for you just for the tier ones use code tier one t i er one the number one t i er number one on ducanon.com for 15% off your first order use code tier one again on duke cannon.com for 15% off your first order i was actually at

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And then you, it's like time to leave. So you go outside, hit your car immediately. You just get that cool breeze and like you're a little bit sweaty. So it like makes you cool off even more. But that as soon as you get outside, that breeze hits you. Like, yeah, I just got that working. Yes, sir. Shout out that breeze.

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Go ahead, Jack. One of these days, my shout-out's going to be when Mitch has a really good shout-out because it fires me up. I'm not saying, I'm not saying he's like missing a bunch, but when he hits one,

I feel like the whole state of the bus is just kind of elevates. It's like, thank God we're going to have an okay week. Right. But that is not my shout out this week. Maybe next week. I'm not actively living my shoutout right now, but my shoutout goes to the first day you get back to 100% after being sick.

I thought about this shoutout going out to Vegas. And then we didn't talk about it. We did obviously off the bus, but I got very sick in Vegas. So I don't know if I had to actively live through this experience to really own this shoutout. But I think tomorrow when we head to Florida State, I feel like I'm going to be possibly on the first day that I'm at 100% again. So I'm really hoping that's the case. But there is a very special moment when you finally get back to 100% because you all live through the same moment. When you're sick, you're like, God, I had it so good.

I had it so good at one point. I took everything for granted. I'll never take it for granted again. Just like I just make me be healthy and I'll be happy. There's nothing that could go wrong if I just could be healthy. again. So that first day being 100% healthy again after being sick to me is, yeah,

you can't beat that. So I'm praying it's tomorrow. It reminds me that quote, I think you go something like, oh shit. A healthy man wants everything. A sick man wants one thing. That's to be healthy. That's it.

Yes, sir. Put that on a quote graphic, Coup. JP, you got one? Yeah, I got one. one this morning. McDonald's brought back their breakfast bagels. And we were kindly

invited to a local McDonald's in Nashville to enjoy me and four others. Are you serious? Yeah, because we had been tweeting it out for a while. You're a content guy now. The McDonald's Nashville guy, he like tagged us all last week in

like their little marquee sign saying March 25th, bagels are back. So then we got like a little little group chat on Twitter and they were like, come out, like pick a location, come out. We'll hook y'all up with some of the sandwiches. Y'all brought champagne? Tommy Guns, I think his name is, right?

The Guns Show. Yeah. Yo, shout out the boy. Wait, too, do they bring him back just for you guys for like a day? No, no, no, it's back. It's back. Back, back. Oh, they brought it back just for them.

Brought it back because JP called for it. Oh, yeah. By the internet. Just to let the people know, I did ask him about the snack wrap. and it is in the works to come back. Do we know when? Do we have any? We don't know when.

Apparently the holdup is McDonald's wants perfection and they don't use some of the same ingredients that they were using back then in like the ranch or something. They were like it would have to be the ranch dipping sauce, but that's not what it was like when the snack wrap was hitting. So they're like they're working through it. I love that. His name's Clark, child Clark Gray. Shout out Clark.

Hey, that's hilarious. And the smoke show. That's this morning. I love that, man. Our insider on McDonald's. Snack wrap is in the works. You want to tip on how to do rants. Go to go to Home Team Pizza.

Actually, that might be my shout out. Have I shot out Home Team Pizza? I think so. Shout out Home Team Pizza again. Yeah, basically. Them are Midnight Oil. You get a midnight oil. Five guys.

We were a massive five guys. Again, I'm going to start shouting out all these local pizza spots. But yeah, home team is local. Oh, my fault. Five, uh, five points. Five points. I'm convinced if you got five in your name, you're a successful, you're a successful franchise.

Uh, but yeah, hey, home team, that's a true local spot. I'm talking they share, they share a space with like a, I think another pizza business, but they share a space where you got to walk up. It's, there's no storefront. I actually think that they're in the works of getting one. So they're moving up because they're expanding and getting bigger. No, they're a part of me. to like tell him like hey you need do you need any investors hit your boy up I'll be an ambassador

I already am he's like hey you mind if we use your stuff for our our Instagram was dog I was like dog do you guys are the fucking best their buck eyes are incredible I always get a I always get a little four pack every Friday they're little breadstick bites insane garlic butter oh fuck they are the real deal spicy Italian spicy Italian with the breadstick with the breadstick with the breadstick and get you a four piece of buck eyes that is your friday night my barber he they're not doing pizza thursdays because of the inspo he's like the it's it's fired us up to do more of the you know not get outside of the annual family annual tradition stuff of like holidays but get a weekly one going pizza Fridays boys home team shout out the boys at home team once again i'll also shout

out i don't know it's another shout out i can throw out there your wife getting you right before a long trip. Not to put my wife on the spot, but we love you, sweetheart. Oh, I love you, sweetheart. Oh, man. Florida State tomorrow. Yeah. I'll have to make sure my trips are now on the calendar.

Hey, sweetheart, you know I'm going here tomorrow. You're going for 48 hours. Well, that's Murphy's, bro. Yeah. Oh, fuck. Gee, you got one? Don't have one? telling you that brain will fail you yeah that c t-esb-n somebody's running his account right

ab's account who knows i can see it being him i think even under his name it says like admin he's got like an admin tag something that goes up under it i mean there's no way it's it's him running it's no way because it's that it's a funny it's a funny twitter follow right now i'll have to look i'll have to find it on my phone he only follows two people though on Twitter and it's his C-T-E-Svian network and Dick Bender. Assistant Men's Basketball, Coach Clemson University. Oh, Clemson's having a good tournament, JP. Really random to throw that in there.

I know. I saw Clemson. It just made me. Actually, you know what? For any Clemson fan that's listening, all you guys wanted your coach fired all year. Going into the tournament, you said, oh, no, we don't want, well, we want to lose in the first round so that we can finally fire Brad Brownell. Now, next thing you know, they're in the Sweet 16

and everybody's, I love this team, love this, I'll die for this squad. Shout out Coach Brownell. Just on their knees for them. On their knees. Like, this is not how this works. And that's what they're doing with Davo. So, Davo, watch out, man.

Your head's on the stick right now. Your head will be on a stick come December. I can't wait for football season, man. Shout out. Yeah, Ging the bag. Go ahead. Shout out Rand Carthon. and the Titans.

We got Calvin Ridley? Yeah. What? I mean, who do you draft now? Ridley, Sneedy. You know who to draft? Go ahead. Tell him, Jack.

What? No, we went, uh, Alt, dude. Left tackle? Yeah. Beast, Notre Dame. But who knows if we'll get them? Rock Bowers.

Joe Alt. That's, that's who I'd like. Joe Alt. If we get Joe Alt at seven, I think it isn't, Is that what we have seven? We get Joe out at seven.

He could potentially be like, I'm not saying the next Taylor Luam, but the next kind of player that could play in the franchise for a decade, I think. Right. Well, yeah, I mean, you want your first round cast to be a second contract type guy. Definitely. Did you? I think good. Or is it?

I think it's great. Taylor's first year, he got after it. True. First, like, yeah, first three. Really when he stopped going out. was when I think the first ACL kind of busted him up. So I think it was, tailing was the saving grace.

He found tailing and then he left all the boys behind. They kind of didn't know. You know that the boys were kind of talking like this guy. He fucking gets a girlfriend, just bales on us. What happened to bros ever hose? Mitch airing it out on it. Yeah, damn, man.

How are you going to? I'm not saying nothing. Come on, man. Kall, you back at the DMZ Carsley. Gal, you trying to bring him down? Oh, good for him. Say it into the mic then. Shout out Skrowski.

He was hanging out with Megan Maroney. Oh, man. Hearing it out. You don't know what his personal life's like, man. You got a wife and kids. Yeah. There was a bunch of people there, maybe they were just all mutual friends. Did you see Dion what he was saying about Shadur and Travis Hunter?

Yeah, saying that they're going to go. He was like he cited Eli. He said that it's going to be an Eli situation. I'm excited The Eli Because I know for me it took me a second Eli just basically said I don't want to go to

What was it to Chargers? Yeah Chargers Chargers were drafted him Eli said no Forced their hand Had the leverage And that's how he didn't end up on the charges End up getting drafted by the Giants

They just said no he's not What was no they took Yeah he took him And then they ended up trading They trade Eli and got Philip Rivers got you yeah apparently deion's saying that it's going to be a similar situation with shudur and Travis no he didn't really specify which one he said somebody's going to they're going to go they're going to both go in the top four right he goes one of them he knows isn't going to go outside of four

i would almost think that might be uh Travis and then shoulder i think you're going to that's where the whole eli situation comes in because he's got what four cities four teams that he's kind of looking at. I listen, I'm going to have my popcorn ready to see this thing unfold. Because it's like you can look at it as like, oh, what a petty, what a weird way to go about it? Like, that's stupid. That's gay. But also like, if anybody's going to have the power to pull something like that off, Dion, Dion kind of had a similar situation. He just knew he wasn't going to get drafted low. So he would go in the teams that were late in the draft at the combine that would try to interview him. And he just say, like, y'all are going to be high enough to get me. Y'all are going to be able to pick me up.

This was his direct quote. So gangster. Yeah, all this is subjective because I know where I kind of want them to go. And let's not forget Shiloh, but I know where I want them to go. There's certain cities where it ain't going to happen. It's going to be an Eli Manning. It's going to be an Eli Manning situation. You said that on a million dollars worth the game.

That fires me up. I'm excited to see how that goes down. I'm excited to see what kind of year Colorado has after last year. Like they started off hot. It seemed like they were immortals. Yeah. I mean, they essentially, in my, I in my opinion, believed that like Nebraska got a little deer in headlights. Like just kind of got fascinated by all the headlines and then beating the shit out at TCU. Then they became mortals after about four weeks, fairly quickly after Oregon said, nah, we ain't wearing a condom on this one.

But I am. I'm excited to see how the Colorado team kind of goes about it this year. what their record's going to end up being um anything else boys you got anything else to touch on twisted question uh can't wait cannot wait twisted tea is a refreshing hard ice team made with real brewed tea and 5% alcohol full of flavor and very refreshing twisted tea goes down smooth there's no carbonation which makes it easier to drink all day long twisted tea feels fun and celebrates extreme fandom on game day it is the perfect alcohol beverage for game day where they're tailgating in the the parking lot watching at a bar or watching with friends at home. Twisted tea is there to turn up your game day.

Keep it twisted with the boys and grab a refreshing twisted tea today. Mitch, Twisted question. This one comes from Max Merriquin on Instagram. I feel like we could maybe change this around because I feel like they're kind of, I don't know, we'll see. Would you always have your flight, would you rather always have your flight delayed or always have a middle seat? I think what we could switch that is, would you rather-

Come out? Read it again? Would you rather always have your flight delayed or always have a middle seat? Yes. No, I know. And that's that. That's why I'm fucking saying we should change it around. I don't know.

Would you rather... Losses, I guess, but... Would you rather always... Would you rather always, like, have a really long security line or have a middle seat? I would just never... If it's a delayed flight, I'd rather be home, even if it's being in a middle seat. And that's coming from a guy who's like, these are touching the seat too in front of them every time.

So. So long security line. In my brain, I'm assuming we still make the flight. But the anxiety is just sky high because you just don't, you're like, oh, God, do I ask these people in front of me? Okay, I'm going to ask them.

Never mind. I bicked out. I'm not going to ask him. Charlotte. Remind me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You're talking when it was me.

and Taylor, right? All of us. Was it all of us? You remember. Was this the one? Did Jack? Was Jack on there first? I fucked this one up.

Oh, God. I was the only one who was on the flight at one point because I had TSA pre-check, and then y'all got caught in a crazy line. And then I made it just barely before, and then they literally held the flight so y'all can make it on. now I was a testy time

was that was that the gear one too yeah where you guys got with the gear and jack just went just full TSA because you've changed it out now like you you understand you remember that situation but we got there with like yeah and you've legit you've 180

I think when we were where were we recently to where like you know you guys go you guys go I'll sit here with the bags like don't even there's no need to sit here and wait for me yeah Miami you guys don't even need you guys don't even need to you got all that um we got we got there with like 45 minutes to spare but like that the security line was very long

yeah what would you rather and it wasn't even it wasn't what we were running yeah it wasn't even the fact that because it's like yeah everybody can't stand there and do the it's like okay one person's going to ultimately have to do this but it's almost the not even thinking about hey i'm just fucking and look i was in the wrong and i've changed But I've been telling people for, I don't know how everyone on our team doesn't have TSA pre-check when we travel. I'm literally in the process of-dial. Minimum once a month, all of us probably. And none of us have TSA pre-check.

That to me is like you've had enough time to where I can only take blame for so much moving forward. No question. Because what's all changed? I did. And I fucked up. Is even all you guys being like, hey. Or we need a responsible traveler. Make sure to have a mic.

Be a responsible traveler and get TSA pre-check if you travel over six times a year. Fair, very fair. Our employer should pay for it, for sure. They will. If you are the one with it and you know you get through, I feel like that's always the case guy then. Fair. But also if I also think if you are the production side of the job,

that technically falls. on you as well. And I do it though. I do it plenty. That's also, we all, we all wear the same hats. And again, I, I, like a good conversation meeting to have to be like, hey, how can we find? I will. I will continue to help whenever I see fit. I'm not our bus with the boys driver, but I drive the car everywhere we go. I mean, so do I when you're not there. Exactly. When I'm not there. Jack, don't look at me when you're, when you're just looking forward. I'm just saying we've, it's, it's, we've been working in this situation long enough where everyone should have TSA pre-check. Everyone. Agreed. Agreed. I think that's a fair. Even if we don't, I will always help put that bag

on wherever, check it because I have a little bit extra time. 100%. I'm just saying it just helps. It helps your life tremendously. No doubt. I agree that we should all have TSA pre-check. You have to bring like two forms of ID. I actually have the links that I can send. us that I can drop because I got the links I got the links last Friday I went and didn't have the right paperwork oh yeah you had your appointment and I just was like you didn't you ever follow up no that is ridiculous he said it's not meant to be nope it is the best $85 you'll ever spend I yeah I agree with you there because it's even got to the point it even got like after a couple of those situations it got to where it's like hey what time are you guys getting there okay

we need to stop depending if we're going to ride with Will and Taylor I'm going to ride with Will and There's either a point where I'm like, okay, I'll be there and we can leave it this time, or you guys are like, all right, we're going to get there. Because JP tries to finesse the boarding time over the flight situation. Like, when does the flight leave? And he's always like, when does, when do we start boarding? Because I'm always an hour before flight time. JP tries to get an hour before boarding time.

But you're always A1. So the boarding thing doesn't matter. We're all in different field. We're all in different situations. We're all in different situations. We don't travel as one anymore. Something happens. Something changed.

No, this is a hell. This is, this is a hell. We've all realized how to survive and advance in our own, in our own terms. We're not a team anymore. Yeah, that's what we need. We need to just start all booking our own separate flight. Yeah. What's like to mean?

We all just show up at different times. What you're talking about? You're our logistics guy. No. You're in the logistics seat, gee. You are a logistics guy. Nope. You are.

That means I don't have to carry the case then. Because I'm, I'm logistic. Hang on, hang on. One issue at a time. One issue at a time. Hang on. Time out. Time out one issue at a time.

You are the logistic guy. Okay, we go post show. I'll just say you are the logistics guy. Okay, then hands on the book. Okay, that's a different problem. That's a different situation. Yeah. I'm the one carrying the case all the time.

That is facts. I'm fine with doing it. I do need to get precheck in order to get through the line quicker, but I'm the one who's always been carrying it. Oh, yeah, yeah. We got, we got, this is good. You know what? Yeah, is this fine.

These are some good issues to talk over. Yeah, we can discuss this. These are easily solvable. It seems like this is good that we're getting some of the rage, some of the stuff that's put down in the closet out. I feel like we might work through a lot of positive things in the next month while Taylor is gone. There's no question.

There's no question. We're going to come back about, you know what? We don't actually need you anymore. Hang on, hang on. We'll always need the big guy. That's a joke. That's a joke, guys. Calm back. I know.

This would be one. that we can all laugh and have fun with, but if the big guy's watching, we definitely need our guy. We need our guy. Well, just put it at the end of the thing. He ain't watching the whole thing. By the way, but can you give us a recap of Vegas what people can look forward to in the Vegas vlog? Yeah.

So, Vegas best three days of my entire life. No, I was sick, but we still got things done. A lot of gambling went on. Taylor once again comes out unscathed wins. an undisclosed amount of money that you will see in the vlog. We got to go to Dave & Busters, catch some of the Stetson game in March Madness, check out some of their new games, which was, even when I was sick, really fucking cool. It was a new high-tech David Buster, so to say.

We also got to go to UFC Fight Night and saw a couple really crazy knockouts. You'll see, saw some celebrities, one of our good friends that I'll tell you off camera was sitting next to us. We got to tune in the vlog to see it. um Dana was in a blender one of the nights um

we see there each night with you guys no I think one two nights maybe one or two nights um but not not every single night um and then they're

I'll have to confirm with Taylor or not but there might be a really sad part of the vlog so we'll see if that gets put in or not and I'll just leave it at that um but yeah very exciting um

Another Vegas vlog coming. Another Vegas vlog, man. Coming down the pipe. Hopefully there's just more and more. Yeah. There's almost people in the comments. Call for them. Yeah.

Just keep throwing them down the pipe. As long as you all want one of them, I'll go, you know? All right, we can get in this Brian Baumgartner episode. We hope you guys enjoy it. It's a fun one. I love his take on how he catches people taking photos of him. Yeah, the old, yeah, you guys will see. Before we get to a Cars.com, the leading digital marketplace that connects car shoppers with their perfect car,

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Okay, all right, ladies gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Bussing with the boys. We are with Brian Baumgart. I thought we were going to be on a bus. They look behind you. Life is full of surprises. You gotta get you to Nashville to get on the bus. Oh, really?

Yeah, it doesn't. Why didn't you bring them? Oh, it doesn't run? No, no, no, no. It's like a non. Novelty item. Okay. But it's not a novelty item is PXG Golf, dude.

And that's why you're here today, right? Did you like that? It's not. That was really well done. Did you see the pivot there? By the way, he was really nervous about that pivot there. Yeah, you almost left him hanging. I know.

That didn't do. Yeah, PXG golf. It's not novelty at all. And Greenville, J.P. over here, he's from Greenville. Oh, you're from Greenville? Dude, it's the best. Greenville, South Carolina. Have you guys been to Greenville?

We have not. but we hear about it once a week. I'm truly underrated city in this country. And let me just say this. And to the people of Greenville, I'm saying nice things. Remember that. My cousins lived in, I'm from Atlanta. My cousins lived in Greenville.

Shithole. Oh. It was, it was a shithole. And what I mean by that is, like, there is nothing memorable and no real desire to go. Like, there's no, like, we're going to Greenville to visit our. cousins and we're going to drive home that same day because there's nothing to do. It is now underrated city in the country. Really?

What changed? They rebuilt downtown. They put in a lot of like good restaurants and bars and people are great. I feel like they got a influx. It's not far from Clemson and Furman. So they kind of brought in a destination, I guess, for younger people to go and really good restaurants. Holes. Shout out to Hals is like the best. Shout out to Hulls. Yeah, I'm there six or seven nights for this event. I go to Hals.

Really? Six or seven nights. However many. It's always great falling in love with a restaurant and establishment where you just feel like when I go here, I have to see this spot and I have to have to have this meal. I have to do that. And they know I'm coming. And they know I'm coming. Yeah. Have you, have you been to Scottsdale, Arizona? I have. Have you ever been to a place called Zips Sports Grill? No. Okay. Well, maybe.

I don't know. No, you'd remember. Okay. So Zips, if I'm on death row and they're like, hey, you have one more meal, my meal is going to be Zips, golden wings, extra crispy, extra saucy, and then a Monaco Faccia. That is to me, like, everything as far as my meal. I don't say that to boast or to tell you a little bit about myself, I'm here to ask you, if you're on death row, what is your, what is your go-to? What's like the number one thing that, like, this is my favorite meal? Favorite meal?

meal place you got to go to this might be a good reference point for you to you're dying tomorrow choose your favorites my favorite restaurant well I will say because I'm kind of stalling because I'm thinking but I am very very much like you like if I

have a spot in a city I will that's where I go yeah I feel like I don't know if it's like some weird old timey mobster mentality like I know where the exit is I know where the back door is I know where the bathroom

I don't know what it is and if I find something good I'm like trying something new let me try something new you know what you like that's okay there's a new oh oh oh they have one there

where I live now I'm not telling you they just open steak 48 have you been to stick it's called steak 48 in Scottsdale steak 44 is that the only so a steak 48 is it that's a place we went with

that's a place we went with Caleb yeah no no no He's saying steak 48 at the place we went with steak 44. But no, but I think it might be the same. Really? Why the number changed? The Mastro family? Is that the store, steakhouse? Yeah, they do ocean.

All I know is that place is incredible. It's incredible. It's 44 is. I don't know about 48, what you guys got going on. Yeah, it's phenomenal. And so right now is that would be it for me right now. So what's the meal? What's the choice at steak 48?

Appetizer, entree. They have, well, steak. Yeah. Medium rare. Low-hanging fruit. Nice. It depends. Depends on how they do it.

I think there I go medium rare plus if we want to be specific. Yeah. Okay. Just a cool. Yeah. And fantastic, chilled, what do you call it? Seafood tower type thing? Oh shit.

Hey, we'd be good together. Yeah. We can eat food together. Yeah, okay. Perfect. We're big seafood tower, guys. Seafood Tower. Got to get the seafood tower.

It's not just the taste. It's also the presentation of it. The presentation. Yeah, it makes you feel more special. People look, they turn their heads. When it comes in, you're like, yeah, I order to bed. Yeah, yeah, horseradish. Yeah, got to have the extra horse radish.

Have you ever been to a place called St. Elmo's? I don't know. My memory is also about, where is it? Indianapolis. Oh, oh. You're famous for that shrimp cocktail. Oh, yes. Indianapolis when the Super Bowl was there, actually.

Yeah, that's the only time I've ever been to Indianapolis. And the St. Elmo has a, has a shrimp cocktail there. When we played, like, anytime you go play Indianapolis, like, that is the place you have to go. It'll reroute your whole sinus system. So here's the thing. And I'm gonna make a transition here about this. Because this is what you guys are talking about is what I'm about. What I love is like either food or like products.

I was just talking to somebody about this knife store in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Because they do something incredibly well. They, they can't like you feel like they care. And I'm not just making this transition. But PXG is honestly, that's why I work with them. Like I worked with. not to mention any names a couple of the larger

more maybe traditional companies and it's not the same what I'm not saying anything but um they uh yeah it they call it Bob Parsons from Go Daddy fame

ex military guy he started this company because he wanted to build good golf clubs and he had the money to do it but like who does that you like you would think oh I'm going to go and I'm going to find the best. He's like, no, I love to golf. I'm going to build this company out of literally nothing, put my name on it, and try to make the best clubs that I can. And it's why I'm here. And it's,

and it really is applicable to what we've been talking about, like, whether it's a freaking awesome restaurant or some little product or craft or, you know, something that I love to do, which is golf, that they do it really well. Like, that's, that's what, excites me like in life it's like these places that you're talking about you think about indianapolis you think about st elmo's yeah right you know the details yeah it's the details and i obviously i'm not a i've played nine holes of golf is the most amount of golf i played at one time my life and that happened a month ago right i'm awful okay if you're going to take me on a journey of why pxg their clubs are the best what makes them the best to you i'll tell you a story so i i have been

doing this like i don't even celebrity golf You know, like I've, circuit thing. 18 years. 18 years. I play in tournaments around the country. We're talking about Greenville. Like that's a professional event that they invite celebrities to. I, they said, you got to try these clubs, black ops.

And I was like, you know, again, military reference. And I was like, okay, they send them to me. I fly to Orlando. I'm on the golf channel playing golf on Thursday. I played one practice round with them. I had the best round that I have ever had in a tournament play on, like in a real tournament, like on television tournament. And because they just, the ball just goes further.

Like you're just, you know, they're just better. Like, like, I've never hit the ball better. And so when they were like, hey, do you want to come to the Super Bowl and talk about the ball? I was like, fuck yeah. Like, I like talking about it and being associated with companies that actually just do good. Yeah, right, where'd you finish in that tournament? I mean, the next few days weren't as good, but the first day, the first day. The first day.

The first day, no, you know, this is, I was talking to, God, who was I talking to about this? It might have been, might have been Marcus Allen. We were talking about this, that people don't understand, and you guys are going to be the same way. I don't know if anybody plays. Golf, you think of golf as like drinking beer and driving around a cart and having fun, which it. Stogey's. is Stogeys, which it is, but like professional, like this is, this tournament, four days, you're walking eight miles, there's wind, there's rain, there's, like, it's cold, it was,

you know, Orlando was 40 degrees when we teed off on the second day. And I live in Southern California, I don't, it's like Arizona, like I don't play in the, if it rains, I'll wait till tomorrow and play the next 20 days in a row. Like, I don't need to play in bad weather. Just the, it's, it becomes really difficult. That's basically a way of saying it wasn't the club's fault. Yeah. I fell apart throughout the tournament.

Are you, are you a monster on the course? Like, are you pretty competitive? It's what I, it, the reason I do it is because it gives me that release and competition. Because I played sports as a kid. And golf is like, there is an equalizer to golf, which you guys would like, where, through the handicap system, like, you, you can play Tiger Woods. Like you can actually compete Given that you know how how many strokes you get off of the other like there's a whole system behind it So I can play with somebody

Way worse than me and we can compete Like against each other or people that are way better than me and it's yeah. I love it As long as it's for money You do have one? I have another good I was gonna ask like being like being an avid golfer and that being one of your big interest and hobbies like who are some of the coolest guys you've met like? I through the golf circuit and had all these celebrity tournaments. Well, that, so, I mean, that's another reason why I'm here is because so many people from, from your sport and others that I've gotten to meet, I mean, I was a huge sports fan. And, you know, at one point, this is a few years ago, I was like, let me check my, I think I had,

like, 18 out of the 30 starting quarterbacks numbers in my phone, which is just golf. like it was that was that we would meet we would play we would hang out and a lot of thing about sports a lot of the sports and this is again a few years ago a lot of the sports guys loved the office they would watch it on the road when it was on and and i'm a big sports so there was this sort of like mutual like i don't know right but it's got to be sick like knowing you're knowing you're a young kid like loving sports who's your team well so i'll i'll tell you this i was i'm from Atlanta and i was I'm now a Dodgers guy because I love baseball. But John Smoltz, Tom Glavin, Greg Maddox, that trio of Braves pitchers back in the 90s

and they're going to World Series and winning, I now play golf with Greg Maddox, Tom Glavin, and John Smoltz. And like my little self, and when I was talking to John Smoltz actually earlier this week, because the baseball guys, they go pro. so early. He's not that much older than me, but I'm still like in high school, a child living at home and looking up to him and now like, yeah, we play golf. So like that, like that is, that's probably the coolest like from little Brian like to now like, oh shit. Like I can have this experience with these people through golf. And, you know, obviously here, um, the relationships with,

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If you bring up the celebrity, you bring up the office, is there ever like, are you sick of talking about the office? Are you sick about people talking about the chili? I'm talking about the moments. Yeah. Because it was an iconic show, and it's hilarious. It's a show that you can watch and follow the storylines, but it's also a show you can put in the background and just get a giggle once in a while,

and you feel like tuning out to your real life. Right. And so people have so many feelings about it. Yeah. I'm sure it's got to get exhausting. Well, it's, look, the joke is, which I made, I made it a lot. It was last night, I was talking to, so I saw, I ran out of Tony Romo, who I know through golf, and his,

wife who is chase crawford's uh sister who i know chase for a long time and um she was talking about you know them watching the show and whatever like late at night and watching it in bed and so i there's like an intimacy i'd never i knew chase i knew tony i don't think we had ever met before but like they are watching me in bed right yeah like they are watching me in bed like and a lot of people like the number of people who say like I put it on before I go to sleep yeah like people are and so when they run in to me they feel like they know me yeah like I've shared these moments I'm not even being sexual by the way I'm just literally saying I'm not that's not where I'm going but I mean just like yeah me and them in bed yeah I don't know no that's good at gay but there's a TV between

The way we always talked about is like, I don't, I think that walking through a day in Vegas, Tom Cruise probably would not get approached as much as me. Because Tom Cruise is 50 feet tall on a movie screen and is like, like, he's there. I don't know why I used Tom Cruise an example. But you know what I'm saying? Like, that is like a movie star. And I feel like people would be like, oh, there's Tom Cruise. With me, it's like, let's have a drink.

Like, what are you doing? So, yeah, it's just different. Has anybody got a bad Brian Baumgartner experience? Oh, like bad for me? Yeah, well, just, you were in a bad mood or something and you feel like, you feel like thinking back, like, ah, they probably, they didn't get the real Brian. Well, I mean, look, I would answer this. I would answer it multiple ways.

There is a time, and especially we're talking about Vegas, sometimes the nights go long. longer here. There is a time everybody's done, right? Like I you're just you're done. You're hanging out with your friends and you're just done and you don't the time for pictures is done. And it's not like I'm trying to be a jerk. It's just like I'm I'm done. I'm just done. And later I'm like so that person may think that I'm an asshole. I try to always be nice about it. It's like you know, I'm not. But the the thing for me is. is taking pictures of me without asking. Like just staying on the side.

Like I'm a zoo animal. Like I'm at the zoo. I'm the monkey. And they're standing back like taking it. It's just so, it's just such a weird thing. bizarre. Yeah.

It's like there are plenty of pictures of me on the internet. Like if you need to see me, that's right. Like what is like, I don't know. That, that's the one thing where I'm like, I will get.

a little testy. Oh, so have you called somebody in you like, hey, put the phone down. Oh, you'll finger them over? You'll finger him over? And they just come tail between their legs. Oh, yeah. You remember if somebody run away? Yes.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Out of there. Don't want to be in trouble? What do you say when you figure them over? It depends on the circumstances. It depends on the circumstances.

The thing that I have done a lot is the come after I have seen them, like, you know, pretending to take a picture of their pasta at a restaurant, but I can they're clearly taking a picture of me. Yeah. And then I'll get up to leave the restaurant and they'll say, hey, can I have a picture? And then I just will as quickly as I can say, yeah, if you delete the ones you took of me earlier. Ooh.

Wait, I bet. Is that Dickie? Is that Dicky? I bet they just lose the color in their face. Yeah. But I mean, like, come on. Right? Yeah.

Taking a picture without, like that, isn't that weird? No, no question. And also in a social setting. And they're like, hey, check out this photo. I got a Brian. It's just you, like, talking to somebody, it's like, you know, is that exciting? That's what I'm saying. Especially if you're going to ask for a photo.

Yeah. Well, I think they think that they don't have the balls. And maybe they have a cocktail and they get some more balls. And they're like, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to ask him now. Yeah, yeah. It's like, I, I, the other thing that I feel like has, has changed. through the success of the show or whatever and I've joked about I feel like remember the original Terminator the Arnold Schwarz and you know and he would walk in and like I like be able to scan

a person is like that is a that is not like you know I feel like I walk through life that way I feel like I walk through like if I walk into a room yeah like like like just like okay like they're going to be trouble like they have no idea who I they're, you know, big fans, but look nice or whatever. Like whatever, whatever, yeah. When you were scanning the room, when you first walked in, how'd you feel about us? This one? It was kind of dark when I walked in and the light was in my eyes, so I couldn't really see.

That's how we get. I couldn't really see. I was expecting a bus and then it was a hotel room. Nothing. That's what we do, man. We throw you off a little bit. Yeah. No, I like it.

You go into the room, scanning. Go ahead. Hit me with the boys back there. Who's a threat? Who's not a threat back there? I like Greenville. I'm happy about Greenville. All right. Greenville is not a threat.

Although now he left. Yeah. Yeah, there he is. Is that a San Diego hat? Yeah, see, I would judge that immediately. Oh, because the Padres, not because you say you live in California. What part of California you live in? Yeah, Dodgers guy.

You like baseball more than football? Growing up, I played a lot of baseball. I would say now, now I follow football. I mean, I've, you know, done a bunch of stuff on end of football. NFL network. Like, I love talking about it. I love, I love watching it. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it is, it is the easiest to be able to see everything.

And obviously not everything, but, you know, in baseball, it's impossible. You know, I'm not, you're not watching 16 games every day of the week. But, you know, the way baseball spreads it out, you've got one game here. Yeah, I mean, I'm watching a lot of it, but I love it and love talking about it. Who's your team? Packers. You guys are the most spoiled quarterback franchise of all time, huh? Well, it's been a good run.

It's been nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Other guys are just, other franchis are just scrounging around trying to find their guy, and you guys just happen to fall into one every 15 years. It's crazy, right? I mean, they legitimately should have won two weeks ago. Yes. They legitimately should have won.

58 minutes. Yeah. they legitimately should have won and it was but it was I think for the first time in a long time it was also like

you know what they did good like there was no like disappointment I mean obviously in the moment because it was rough in the first half of the year and then they really put on I mean starting Thanksgiving

like they just started looking great defense started playing a little bit better but yeah it was fun it's the whole thing like expectation in the result like the expectation jordan love you don't know what you have yet ups and downs of the season and then they make it as far as they did playing the team that's in the super bowl now being like hey that was awesome luck to look forward to kind of like the lions like obviously a very big disappointment losing the nfc championship but you in detroit if you're a detroit fan you're like bro we are going to be good you have this

now feeling in your head like maybe we're the next dynasty right and then you and being your fan of a packers you're like dude we we get to go through another opportunity to be contenders every single year for the next however many years until we find the next quarterback yeah you know i will say this though and and i haven't i haven't talked about this so much i think it's very easy to be like it's the same it's like farv and it's rogers and it's you know now love but i think i think the other part that is surprising and and and it kind of feel good i don't know why that's such a lame way to say had, but I think with Favre, they knew what they had. I think with Rogers, they knew what they had.

And I think legitimately, if they say inside that building now that they made this decision to bring in love because they knew he was ready, that's a lie. I don't think it was the same this time. Now, I think they can look back and Goudicuns can say, like, well, you know, I drafted him. I knew what he had or whatever. But I, for me, that's a little disingenuous because I don't, I think they were very publicly unclear about what they had. But he started playing great. I mean, you can't argue with that.

Because you're saying, like, they knew and they were ready for Rogers to take over. It's just if Far would decide to come back or there'd be drama, and you're kind of just like waiting on things to play out. But they were very excited about Aaron Rogers. Whereas with the whole Aaron leaving and Jordan being there, it's kind of like, it's kind of like, Aaron can, you know, he can do it as long as he can. This will be really good for George. who actually knows what we have, but you got to be ready for, you know, as Aaron left. I mean, the other thing is, people talking about the Packers and maybe some people, jaded people saying, like, they're lucky or whatever.

Guys, like, resting, sorry, sitting a guy that you drafted for a couple of years maybe is not a bad fucking idea. Like why they're throwing, no disrespect to anybody, but if you're drafting high, you're shitty to start with. And so you draft a guy, you bring him in, you're shitty as a team, you can't protect him, you don't have playmakers around him, now he's getting his balls beat in and his confidence shook. And then you're surprised with three years later that we still don't know about him or we like he hasn't performed or you know he moves to Kansas and retires or whatever but like having somebody that you're I don't know if you guys agree with me or not but I sitting somebody I know you make a huge investment and you want to get

better as fast as you can but man bringing in a veteran I mean Jordan love sound you know Aaron and I know each other really well and I've watched a hell of a lot of Packers games and by the end of the season. Greenated. His tone, his rhythm, the way he does fakes, it's very Rogers-esque. Like, if you watch him now,

how did that, how did that, throw off the back? How did that happen? He watched him. He sat there and watched him for two or three years. Anyway, I, I love the, I love the passion. I love the tangents. There's definitely truth to that. I feel like

it's so circumstantial because a lot of it just depends on the organization, is the head Coach going to actually get an opportunity. Are they just going to cover their ass by throwing them out there and back, see, it's not us. It's you guys drafting this. Like there's so much political bullshit that it's circumstantial, but I do agree that it's only going to benefit the player. Yeah. And obviously, it is player dependent, but you're not going to have a tremendous amount of success if you don't have an offensive line to protect your largest asset and potentially best player.

I agree. They're not going to be good. Right. Yeah, but it's so tough with the NFL because there's zero patience in the NFL. If you look like the Panthers franchise, they're turning over coaches like it's nothing because everybody's so impatient and wants to compete. And if you have like your largest asset, you draft a quarterback in the first round, that's a lot of money and that's a lot of inpatient fans that have more access to you through social media

and you hear the noise so much more to where even though you're at this top exec or you're this owner and you should have the mental fortitude to withstand that, it's so difficult to go we're going to sit this guy for a year and let him learn and develop as opposed to like just throwing them in there. I hear you. Fuel by fire. And look, it's if you're, if you are the Packers, you have somebody good who's playing already. Yeah. And you're playing at a high level.

So, you know, I get that that's a difference. Were you bummed when your, when your boy left Green Bay? Oh, oh. Based on, I'm assuming the golfing conversations. Um, I. Look, I think that he was ready to go. And I think it was best for him, which makes it not, not, it's like sad, I guess, but sad in like a nostalgic way, you know, like that Derek Jeter play, you know, all these years for one franchise type thing. but I think the reality was he needed to go somewhere else

and he's been incredibly happy in New York and I mean let's face it they probably I mean not probably would have been playing here but they certainly would have had a chance to be playing here today and he got hurt and but it sounds like he's energized and ready to come back next year the Aaron Rogers obviously has been the guy that has been the headlines about the COVID stuff and ayahuasca

have you ever wanted to take ayahuasca with him I have not taken ayahuasca with it. Would you ever want to? I've not taken ayahuasca with him. You said, I have not taken ayahuasca with him. Fair enough. Fair enough. I've not taken ayahuasca with him.

You have not taken it. I have not. If the option came to you to go on a journey. I have not taken ayahuasca. Okay. All right, fair enough. That's a fair question. That was a loaded question.

I would take ayahuasco with Aaron Rogers. Yeah? Oh, that was. Yeah. Yeah. Delete that. Delete those. Yeah.

Yeah. The way he answered the Aaron Rogers' question. you're like, oh, he's had that conversation with Aaron. He's trying to be like, he's trying to be do good by his boy right now. I think he was ready. I think, I, you know. These motherfuckers ain't getting me. Yeah.

Is that a surreal feeling when you're able to meet these, these guys your fans of? Do you, like, as a celebrity yourself, do you get that feeling like, oh, my God, that's so-and-so? Oh, for sure. Oh, for sure. Like, I, I, yeah. I mean, and, you know, it's sort of like, because the office has, you know, stayed so popular and, you know, people are still watching it it's even just some of the young guys who are starting out in the league now who are you know watched it or currently watching it or whatever um i yeah i mean it's yeah it's really fucking

i mean that like errin or uh josh allen or mahomes um kelsey you know those guys are are all playing and you know tournaments with me over the year and we're joking around and chatting and yeah Of course that's cool for me. All right, boys, we interrupt this episode to bring you Verizon. We are always relying on our phones to keep us up with the latest news of football, sports, trends, everything. Whether you're streaming games, searching live scores across the NFL or keeping up with major trades, I can always trust my phone to get me there. There is nothing worse than your phone glitching out during the game on the winning drive

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Visit Verizon.com slash barstool to learn more. Back to Brian Baumgartner. House, dude, it's got to be so sick knowing that the part of the office dynasty franchise, like getting to look back and back. man, we were really part of something that will be battle tested and last a very long time. Like, again, newer generations, like you come on. Oh, you ever watch the office? You've got to go turn the office on. And then people start watching it.

Like, oh, you're totally right about it. And then it will continue to happen. Yeah. It's got to be so cool to look back and back, man, we were part of something special. Dude, yeah. I mean, the crazy thing is that, and part of this is that, you know, streaming is on the newer side. but I mean it is the only show that I can think of in the history of television that got bigger once we were done. Like when we were on like, you know, won Emmys and, you know, we were NBC's biggest show when it was on.

So it was a hit. I'm not saying it wasn't. But we were not friends and we were not Seinfeld. We were not even cheers. Like we were not that and part of it was the way the show was constructed and I'm really not making a joke like I Spoiler alert like I don't look like David Schwimmer or you know are Jennifer Aniston and Courtney like this was not this is not we weren't on the cover of Vogue and Glammer magazine or whatever the big magazines are Fuck we probably couldn't have been on barstool if there was a magazine so

So we just weren't that but the fact that people found it and then it just kept growing and growing and growing and then it was around the COVID time when the stats came out and we were all like I mean the text like the group text was like insane because it was like

they released the streaming numbers and it was like not only are we number one but we're double number two and that's friends and then it goes down from the I mean, just the number of people who found it, like how huge it got once the show was done. That's the part that was surprising. I mean, I was always very proud.

You know, we did 10 years, nine seasons. Yeah, man. That doesn't happen a lot. But to be able to do that and feel really good about the show, like, that's awesome. But the fact that it's continued to live like it has now is like, I mean, yeah, it's crazy. When you get to the end of those nine seasons and everything's wrapping up, and there's truly going to be an end date. Now, some shows just to get canceled.

This one actually got to have a full lifetime. Where were you at as far as, like, were you ready for it to be over? Or were you like, there was more juice in there for you? You know, that's a really good question. I think that collectively, and this kind of sounds like bullshit. It sounds like too good to be true or something. The reality was Karell left.

Karell was there a long time and he was homing the show and I think you can make an argument that him leaving allowed some other things to happen. But we were going to continue to lose people. So there was a conscious decision like, I don't know if you know the show or remember, but like ER. Are we going to ER it?

Like is Klooney going to leave? And then Julianna Margo, like are all these characters are going to leave? we're just going to plug in a new cast member and see going. Yeah. And you've got a few people who stay, but a lot of people leave or whatever. Scrubs. So, so we were like, we, we had that story that we wanted to tell.

And the decision was we all need to be there, as many of us as we can't be there to kind of finish the story. And then once this, once that, the creator's belief was once this documentary that we're filming for nine years that never comes out, that once it comes out, then the show can never be the same because now these characters who have been just behaving, now they'll be behaving because they've seen themselves on television. By the way, Greg Daniels, who I'm talking about, he's an absolute genius because you look at reality shows now, not that I watch very many of them, but I know enough to know, you know, there's some real housewives or whatever it is, and then season two, they behave differently or they've gotten some plastic surgery or that,

because they've now watched themselves on television, they play to the camera a little bit differently because now they see how they come off or they want to come off. So their behavior changes. So his idea was, once these guys, this accountant named Kevin Malone, sees himself on television, he's going to he's going to act differently after that so that was that's why that that for him that was always the end of the show the show is shown the world sees it the characters see it and it's done when it with like reality tv show and people see themselves the next season they do they're looking themselves differently like you're saying as an actor obviously you're not supposed to change anything but from your your process of going about it how difficult was it for you to like see season one take those mental notes and then be like like, all right, I've got to be the same character with the new developments that these creators have made for me. Yeah, so I

may have never happened in the history of the show. That was the second good question. Can I go two for two? Yeah, you went two for two. Early on, you had some rough, but that was too. That's good. I bowels now. Deleted those photos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Leaded those photos. Yeah. So I-alwaska.

That I think any show that's it makes it what television uniquely different from film is that there is a development that happens right even like practical things like you're you know season three you get married like you know like you have a baby on the you know your characters have you know so so things change I think behavior starts to change as well and they're starting they write a different storyline You think about like, what do they call them? Like soap opera, like primetime soap.

You know, the stories get crazier and crazier is like they're each and everybody's having sex with somebody else. So they were still trying to find, I think, Kevin Malone early on. And they sort of fell in love with the writers I'm talking about sort of fell in love with the, let's just call it, childlike sensibility of him and started to write more to that. And, um, and so as an actor, you're like, well, how can I change? So I'll show this with you. I had a nerdy, uh, justification. Nerdy justification is there, Kevin Malone has never seen cameras. And cameras are now filming him. But as he becomes more comfortable, this is in the fake, the world of the fake documentary as he becomes more comfortable with the camera people and the sound people and maybe goes out

to have a beer with them after work he starts to feel more comfortable so more of his true personality comes out over time that was my justification yeah that was that was my person that was how i justified being able to do stuff i think for the writers they just were like this is this is funnier and fits in best with the other characters that we have so they started tweaking like For you, you're looking at it as like your craft. Like you're, they kind of want to write me this way. How can I kind of develop in my own right of how I can start to act a certain way and get more comfortable? Was there any, were there any big friction moments amongst the cast and the writers, like as you guys were in the middle and later seasons?

No. That's a good question too. But, I mean, I think that the, I think that the biggest thing was, you know, if you're a fan of the show and you followed it, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. The thing that caused the most conversation was the Jim and Pam relationship and the like, you know, because they were doing, and it was essentially the same thing as like Ross and Rachel. They're like on again off. Are they? Will they? Won't they?

That whole thing. And finding about, because people became so freaking crazy about that relationship. And so finding that balance between. Maybe there's another woman that Jim is interested in, but, you know, let's not disrespect Pam or like make sure that that is still alive because they know they're going to kind of continue with that. That was the biggest discussion point. And I've said before like nothing shut down production on a day. Then like we're going to have a big Jim and Pam scene today. And it's like, oh boy, we're going to be here a long time

Because they're going to need some time to figure it out Yeah, yeah For your like character development When you're like taking those risks and the justification of You're seeing cameras for the first time You're getting more comfortable battery went out again This is the kind of production we're deal with, brother. I hope you're going through that process

What's it like for you to have the writers write something for you And then you taking a risk to try something new and work through the process of like, hey, you envision it one way, they envision it another, and then how do you guys come to that common ground? Well, so the Greg Daniels, who I mentioned before,

he was from S&L. And so a huge component of the show was kind of an S&L model, which was, you know, you know, the cast of S&L, as I understand it, you're hired as a actor or you're hired as a writer, but oftentimes the writers,

like Tina Faye, starts to appear as a character or, sorry, starts acting as not just a writer. And actors will write skits and pitch stuff and whatever. And Greg believed very much. So like, you know, we're here in this hotel room in Las Vegas right now. Like, if we were shooting,

like if this were a real production, that where the lights didn't go out. And we were shooting. Like the writers for this, um, they might be over at Mandalay Bay. Like they're in another building, you know, at NBC Universal or wherever,

like in their writers offices and they would have some guy come up. We were all there. Like we were, we had an independent studio. We had two sound stages. The writers were there post-productive. I mean, editors were there. So it was like,

you could, if you have, had a scene off, you could just stroll over to the editing bay and look at stuff. And they'd be like, hey, what do you think about this? I've got these two different takes that you did. They would just, they would ask us, which in real television, like normal television, never happens. You never get asked by an editor. Like, hey, which one do you like better?

Or like the writer being like, hey, I'm thinking about the storyline for you. What do you think? We had in the summer, you know, so we would shoot a bunch of episodes. Then before you started the new season, we would go in. and talk to the writers. They'd be like, what do you, what do you see for your character this season? Or how do you, or we're thinking about this,

what do you think? Or how do you think that would? Yeah. So, I mean, it was total open dialogue. And most of the time, it's very much, you know, I can't think of the word, but it's very much like the writers are in charge, in television, the writers are in charge.

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Did it feel like all the cast members, like you guys are basically becoming this little family? Because you guys spent like all these years together. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. And we still, you know, we have our little group texts and stuff and we're still, you know, going back and forth. And, you know, people, not you guys, you would never ask something stupid like this. But like, who's your favorite? Like, who did you like the most or whatever?

And, and I'm answering that dumb question because I think my answer is. is, which is true, is like, we were so much a family, but like you treat your, your, your, your, your crazy aunt different than your sister or your parents different from your grandparents or whatever. So, like, you know, we've, a few of us, uh, John Cresensky and Rain Wilson and myself and, um, uh, Andy Buckley who played David Wallace and a bunch of the crew, we play fantasy football together. So like all, every fall still, we're like, we're now like 18 or 19 years row so we're just like shit talking about you know who's going to perform higher on a given week you know and there are other people i travel with vacation with and um do dinner and talk business and

so the relationships are just different but they're all still strong and good you talk about shit talking and fantasy football if i'm going to go on the golf course with you yeah yeah get a couple of those pxg clubs yeah and we get after it yeah what kind of expect from you from your process of shit talking no you no one can shit talk better than me. That's the number one tell-tale sign of someone who is not great at talking shit. Oh, that is? Yeah. To say that you talk shit? Well, someone notice, someone say I'm the greatest shit talker of all time. My first thought is probably not. That's a fair point. I could see you like taking a swing or whatever and just as you turn around to think like, did anybody see that? He just

did you the finger come over and give you a little tip. See, I can see myself in the short amount of sample time we've had, I could see us playing and me pushing the envelope. envelope a little bit and you go and come over here like hey that's what I'm not going to do that well here's the thing if you're if you're shitty which you admit that you are yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't shit

talk you there would be no reason to I would give you I would give you the only thing that you might challenge me on is I would give you potentially patronizing encouragement yeah but that's the best kind when you're about someone that was that was better yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah hey you really got a hold of that

one as a travels into the woods and kills a squirrel. Yeah. Yeah. You hit it well. Yeah. It would have gone far if it was straight. Yeah. That was a nice deal.

Right, right, right. Do you guys see the office? You guys having like some reunion down the line? Probably. Nice. You want to announce that right now? No. Good.

I don't have any. Yeah. I thought that'd be a ridiculous thing to do. Yeah. That would be good for you guys. Yeah. If I had an announcement. No.

Yeah. It's Super Bowl week. Let me just be honest with you. Guys, we're, no. I think the gang will get back together in some form at some time. That's what I think. You have to, man.

I watch friends. I see their reunion. And you just think to yourself, I think I was talking to you about it. But, you know, when we think about playing with our teams in high school, you think about your high school days. You had four years or you grew up with them.

You have your college guys, like your group chats that you stay in fantasy leagues and shit like that. And you reminisce on the old days. And you realize you're like, you're with these guys. You have these relationships. And you're with them for four or five years. In the NFL, you have your teams.

I was with Washington for five. Taylor, my best friend, I was around him for, you play. We played as teammates two years, and you know, all these relationships. And I just thought to myself, like, as I was watching the Friends reunion, they're all coming back together. They all went their different ways. They're all coming back. And it's just like, man, it's so cool, but also, you know, it's like this full nostalgia.

They got to spend, like, you guys got to spend, how many seasons, nine, ten years? Ten years, like, ten years, like, more than, like, double college, double high school, all of it, like around each other, man. More than double high school. Right. And so you can only imagine how intertwined everybody is. You vacation. You're just like, man, we had these moments.

And, you know, it's obviously only right to at some point in time down the line. Like, it all comes back together. You're just like, man, we had a hell of a run. Yeah. We had a hell of a run. But I think that is, I think it's just really cool. I think especially you get to, you got to be a part of something like that. And I feel like that's why you and everybody in that cast would be so approachable just out on the street.

Because it was such a relatable gifs, quote. all of it, man. And it's really cool that you got to be a part of that. Yeah. Yeah. I feel lucky. We really appreciate you coming on, man. Yeah.

This is awesome. Thanks. Thanks, guys. We ever get a chance. I want the actual bus. Yeah. Yeah, man. That would be busing.

There's some golf course in Nashville now. You got a... Yeah. You play Trubidor? Get that? Yeah. I got that. I have played Trubidor.

Actually. One of an opportunity. Come back, play Trubodore. Yeah. I like that. Should talk on the course a little bit. That'd be nice. Yeah.

PXG. You guys live in Trubidor? No, no, no chance. There's no chance. There's no chance. We wouldn't be allowed in? No. What?

You don't think we'd be allowed in? Maybe. Can I say my biggest issue with golf? My biggest problem with it. This might be a very important conversation. Oh, yeah, go ahead. It's not, it's like, I like the Trubadors. I like the discovery properties where it's kind of more casual.

Yeah. The thing that bothers me the most is when I walk into a country club or I'm in, I do some sort of event. I'm at a country club and they're like, hey, you could be a member. Do you want to be a member? and I just say, can I dress like this? And like, you need the college shirt, you need to tuck in. There's an attitude about it that that's what bothers me. Yeah, there's a, I don't disagree with that.

But I think it's, I think that's selective. I think it's, I think there is like, um, there are true, true, just like anything, like tradition, like there's a, you know, I mean, it's like it's been going on over 100 years or whatever. Like it's There's a tradition-based thing that is They need to get their head out of their ass I totally agree with that But I but I think it's also not like the the places where I am are

Not that way Yeah, that's why like an event like waste management Yeah It's such a fun switch up event Great for golf that makes great Oh I can be a part of that That's fun Chuck a beer throw it on the thing

Hole in one everyone goes crazy Yeah that is an awesome event Yeah But that's been my kind of of like hang up about golf. Yeah. The culture of golf. Like that you feel like it's stuffy.

Yeah, it feels a little stuffy. But it doesn't have to be. And that's what I need to, that's where I need to do a better job of changing. Yeah. And understanding that. Because our boys in the back, like G right there with the boys had on,

big golf guy. I loves golf. These guys play golf all the time. They try to get me in and it. And I always had this like golfers people that have made it type of vibe. Yeah. Well, this may not. This may not be, no.

I mean, maybe you had to. make it to be a troubadour, but I mean, I think troubadour is a great example. And there are a lot of other places like that that are like, we're, we're doing it our way. We're doing it different. And we want it to be fun and an experience. And, yeah, I mean, those are the places that I want to play, too. There's one here. You know, it's as exclusive as you could get, but that's the vibe, Shadow Creek.

here in Las Vegas. I mean, it's, it is, it is so fun and they make it fun. And, um, yeah, you just got to find places like that. You got to get you those courses, man. Yeah. And no doubt. Well, next time you're in Nashville, go to Trubidor. All right, perfect. Yeah. Brian, thank you, man. I'm in. Thanks for coming on the show. This is awesome. Cheers. This is awesome. Thank you. All right. Yeah. Hey, guys. It's us. The Jonas brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called. Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it.

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