Bussin' With The Boys - Kyle Rudolph

Episode Date: September 7, 2020

Recorded: May 26, 2020 On today's episode, The Boys are joined by Minnesota Vikings' Tight End & 2x Pro Bowler, Kyle Rudolph. Taylor and Kyle kick it off with some dad talk, and he drops some knowledge on The Boys on what it's like being a father of 3. Then, Will and Taylor breakdown Kyle's time at Notre Dame, and they take a look back on how stacked the 2009 Fighting Irish squad was. Taylor & Kyle then relive a few of the classic games between Michigan & Notre Dame. Next up, The Boys get an inside scoop on the infamous story of Manti Te'o, Kyle reveals which school he would've chosen if he had not played for ND, and he also let's us in on a few behind the scenes stories from his first Pro Bowl. Finally, all The Boys dig into some current NFL talk. Specifically, how Kyle's roles have changed since he came into the league, his teammate Kirk Cousins, and he also addresses the controversial no-call push off against the Saints in their first round playoff matchup. This was a really fun episode with a true football guy, and an OG Stoolie. Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Resubscribe/Rate/Review. Enjoy! ALSO: A lot of great visuals to go along with the pod today, so make sure to head over to our YouTube page where we drop video episodes every Tuesday @ 6pm CT https://www.youtube.com/bussinwiththeboys ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/ Website: https://www.bussinwtb.comFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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at 1 p.m. I'll tell you what, we made, we made leaps and bounds today, Kyle. I was putting my daughter down and she's been going through a little bit. I don't know how old are your kids. Three, three and one. Three three and, oh, you had twins? Yeah, we have identical girls that are three and then one-year-old boy. I'll tell you, I dated twins when I first got here to Nashville. And, um, scary stuff. Scary stuff, man. Both of them. One was more serious than the other, for sure.

But it was kind of a weird gig for a second, man. It was weird. But Twins is crazy. I didn't mean for this kind of turn. I apologize. I actually feel awful for even saying that. No, not at all. It is crazy, though.

Like, you know, people all the time that have kids, they're like, oh, you know, three, you know, two, you got to entertain them all day long, blah, blah, blah. And twins, like, it's like, send them on their way. As long as you don't hear one of them screaming or yelling or crying. Like, you know, they're hanging out, having a good time entertaining one another. And I have to chase my one year old around all day because he's a monster. But the girls, they just hang out. That's crazy, dude. Would you, like, could you imagine yourself in high school,

like, looking at yourself now and being like, yeah, man, I'm going to have three kids. I'm going to have twin girls. No. And one, there's no twins, like anywhere in my family or my wife's family. So it was like we were at our first ultrasound. And the ultrasound, on tech was like, oh, you guys got twins in your family? No, what was that like? What was that like when you were sitting there where you're like, oh, my God, dude. Like, this is about to be a bit of a deal now. Yeah, it was, it was crazy because, you know, we, we knew we wanted to have kids shortly

after we got married. And so, you know, the fact that we found out we were pregnant, not a surprise. And it was actually, while we were out in L.A. in Hollywood, I was training. And she, my wife, it was having complications. and she was like, oh, you know, I probably had a miscarriage. Like, let's go to the emergency room. We went all over Hollywood trying to find an emergency room. And it was like four hour wait, six hour wait, eight hour wait.

And we're like, all right, screw this. We drove to Orange County, which, you know, 45 miles and ended up taking three hours. So we probably said to stayed at the first emergency care center. And then we got the ultrasound. And they're like, oh, no, heartbeat's good. Everything's good. And the ultrasound type looked at us sideways and was like, you guys got twins in your family? We were like, nope, she said, you do now.

So I literally remember sitting there like, oh my God. Please be too much. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, no question. Dude, I wanted boys so bad. I really did. And I was kind of like on the fence. And I was, you know, hey, if we a boy or girl, it's totally fine.

In my head, I'm crossing my fingers big time for a boy. Like need that out there, playing a little catch with the old kid. Hey, listen, don't do drugs. Listen, those are bad for you. Like that's the best parenting tool you have is this sit there. Listen, no means no, just what it is, my buddy. All right, you know what I'm saying? Right.

We'll catch. And I found out I was having a girl and I started sweating my guy. I was like, things are just different now. But I think it was the best thing for me because like, I don't know about you, but it definitely slowed me down, maybe more patient, help me understand a little bit more. Oh, no. I wouldn't trade having twin girls for the world.

And I remember, you know, fast forward 10 weeks after we found out we were having kids and we found out the gender. And, you know, first one's a girl. at the time we didn't know they were identical. So they actually thought they were fraternal. I'm like, that's okay. Like, there's still one more. Like, maybe we can have boy and girl and we can knock this thing out one try.

And they wouldn't tell us the second one. The ultrasound tech was like, no, I can't see, you know, and I can't guarantee that this is male or female. So I just, we'll wait until, yeah, we'll wait until 20 weeks and see at that ultrasound. So in my head, I'm like, holding out hope for four more weeks. like, okay, there's still a chance. We got a boy, one boy, one girl. And at 20 weeks, they're like, nope, it's two girls. Like, no chance.

And my wife's like, are you okay? Is everything okay? Two girls just out the gate, dude. Three to one in the house. Your wife's pregnant with twins and she gently just puts her hand on your knee and goes, hey, you want to talk about it? Are you going to be okay? Are you okay?

Even like as we left to the doctor's office, we're in the car. He's like, are you sure you're okay? Like, you seem a little upset. I'm like, no, like, I'll be, I would definitely wanted boys, but, you know, we'll figure it out. And now it's... We'll figure it out. I wouldn't trade it for the world.

Were you scared for twins again? Yeah. So that's what's like one of the crazy things about having multiples first, like your percent chance of having them again are extremely high. So... Oh, shit. Got the single, you know, with our son the second time. But, you know, my wife wants one more. I'm okay with one more.

I mean, she does pretty much everything anyways. I'm just here for support. but the chance of getting four and five together is very real. So we will never go for just five. Like if we get four and it's just four, that's it. I'm going to get snipped and we'll call it a day because I'm not going for five and getting five and six together. Now you're out of any standard vehicle and into the Mercedes sprinter or the 14

passenger Ford Eco Boost or whatever that is. So, you know, we won't be going for number five. That's for sure. You started getting that six range, that dirty half dozen look. You're, you're officially in that cheaper by the dozen kind of feel. You're waking up every day, just flopping pancakes. Pancakes are flopped ass everywhere, dude, just trying to figure out what the fuck is going on, man. It's terrifying shit. Absolutely circus. But four kids is a lot, man. I mean, if you, do you think there's no difference after, you know, one to two is the biggest adjustment, and we never made that adjustment because we came right out of the gates with.

two. So two to three, like my son, there were times you'd be like, oh, where's Henry? Like, oh, we forgot we even had a third kid because it's just one. Like one is so easy once you've had two. So I bet three to four is just adding, you know, fuel to the fire. Just making the circus a little more crazy. You might get, you might get, you might get twins though. Knock on wood, I don't want to put that on you, but we're okay with that because five, four, again, you go four to five, we're good. We can fit in any regular car has seven seats. We're good. We got the SUV. You add that six and now you've got eight people in your family. You're not fitting anywhere. Like dinner reservations, cars, like nothing is built for eight. It's game over. Say what? Two big contracts can pay for

something now. I'll tell you, two 30 pieces. We're doing okay. Says the crown molding in the background. We're doing okay. We're doing fine. Greek God's house, dude. You're like, who's house? Was that Socrates's house? You're living right there, dude? I don't want all of our money to go to college tuition, and that's for sure. I know, who knows what it's going to be like 18 years from now?

I'm sure with your genetics, your kids, at least one's going to get a scholarship. At least one. You got to get one, dude. Yeah, we'll put that pressure on. I'm either scholarship or student loans. You're like, dad, student loans. Like, are you kidding me? Yeah, you got to pay for it.

You got to work your ass on. I got my food for free. Come on. Hey, Taylor, if, if Kyle and I are twins, like, I got the raw end of the deal. My man sitting there, you got the fucking fireplace in the back, too, contracts. I got, I got to write our fucking title name on a whiteboard and red marker. Yeah, he's got plaster and, like, crown moldy, and you got drywall in the back, dude. You guys, and this futon that's just killing my back.

Like, hey, hey, big bro, I can get alone. I get something. I got you. The dining room has become my office. My wife, she's the one that actually uses the office that we have. So all of our like virtual OTAs and whatnot, I've set up shop out here in the dining room. So this is where I always have my iPad and do the Zoom. Do you stay in Minnesota full time?

Yeah, we're here full time. It's gorgeous now. This is the best time of the year to be here. The golf courses are in great shape. The lake is unbelievable. So it's a good time to be up here. Try to vacation in February and March, though. You don't want to be up here in February and March.

A couple of times. Well, 30 pieces. Get yourself a nice little jet, fit the kids on there. Get down to where you're going. We'll call them 30 pieces. Not quite. Hey, Mr. 30 piece himself, dude. When we saw you in Miami, we know you came down on like a little citation X right on in there before the games. Hey, do you see his hair too, how sleek it was and everything else? There's a, there's a picture of you they got a fine when you're playing at Notre Dame and when I was looking you up yesterday. Look like you're an extra from American History X. You look like an absolute skin hat, dude.

You used to go bet. What's that about? So spring game, we had St. Baldricks. One of my roommates was like head of the deal. So we would all shave our heads the week of the spring game for the kids with cancer that had the bald heads. And so they shaved them with just like the regular clippers.

And then one of my buddies was like, dude, you should totally bick your head. Like, it's already all the way down. Like, just go ahead, clean it off the rest of the way for the spring game. And that's honestly, the last time I shaved, I shaved my face with the Bick and also my head. And that's the last time I've shaved my face with a razor. Like I just won't do it.

I, whenever I get my hair cut, get my beard trim and carry on. Yeah, it is what it is. I mean, it's a nice thing you did for the kids, but also it's, you know, that bickin. It ain't fun. It ain't fun. Another place that wasn't very fun was I was watching some videos of you. I think it was 2009 or 2010. It was like your last year because you left as a junior, right?

Yes. Yeah. 2010 was my last season at Notre Dame. Yep, 2010. I remember that I was a redshirt sophomore. We were playing you guys. And like three minutes left in the game, the boy just catches a seam route up the middle,

thought you just put it away, didn't you? You thought I'm a hero. So literally, I remember going to the sideline, tired as shit. I mean, I've never run 95 yards in my life outside of maybe the 110 you run in the summertime. Right. And sit on the bench. It was like, remember that game?

It was just the weather was just awful. It was like on and off rain, cloudy. And sure enough, we scored. I don't even know, we went up by less than a touchdown because then Dinarg proceeded to march right down the field and end the game with the touchdown. But sun comes out. It was like, oh, this is going to be awesome. We're going to have a great time tonight, go to the bars. Well, like I said, Ginnard with issues on tide, goes right out on the field and makes everyone on our deep.

defense effect standing and dried cement and it was that was it. So it was a short-lived. This is awesome because I just sat there and watched him go right down the field and scored. Denar was the most electric, one of the most electric football players of all time. Most underrated electric football player of all time. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah, yeah. That's kind of a thing, right, Will? Yeah, yeah, no, that made sense. And that actually reminds me, you guys did have some bangor little rivalries in that little era, like Notre Dame versus basically Danard Robinson.

Basically. The year before we lost on the last drive of the game too. That's what I'm saying. Right down. Tate 4C. The ultimate fuck up. Yeah.

I'll tell you what, I don't know what Tate is doing anymore. That kid was out of, he was out of him. You said what? He said lost on my last possession of that game too. Before we go into the next topic,

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one and three, like one and three versus everybody. Nebraska. Notre Dame. I think I lost one and three. time and that was the year you guys went to the national championship game. You weren't there anymore, but yeah, that's, I feel like that's how I was. I feel like I was one and two against everybody. One and two against you guys. One and two against Michigan face. Um, one and two. Yeah, sorry, three and out. I was three and done, dude. Yeah, one and two against Stanford, one and two against USC. Like,

we literally were one and two against everybody except for Purdue, but pretty much everybody's two and oh, or three and all whatever it is against Purdue. What made you choose Notre Dame? Sorry, Will, I may interrupt you. Zoom podcast. This is for both of you guys. This is what it is Zoom podcast. It's all good.

This is for you guys. Who do you think is the more story program out of Michigan and Notre Dame? It's an easy answer. Here's an easy answer. So you guys have more wins, don't you? Well, yeah, no question. But the big house,

and don't play humble with me, Kyle. Don't come on this thing with your crown molding behind us and play home. Neither one of us have won a damn thing in the last. 20 years so yeah we're both yeah we're hanging on to all those yeah we're hanging on to our 1988 national championship like that's the last time we wanted the car who are you saying oh i'm saying that's for sure um but you know i have my reason he's like my mind can get

we'll go we'll go ahead what's your reason we'll give me one reason um well and i'm not even certain i think we may have passed you guys in a win so we need wrong wrong is it? I don't know. I just wanted to say that. We got, hey, you guys go at it. I'll look it up.

Yeah, you look it up. No, but I will say one of my first college visits was Michigan. It was actually the first rain delay in Michigan history. Might have played a reason why I didn't go to Michigan. We had to sit through a 30-minute rain delay against like central Michigan or something.

But I only played at the big house once. It was right after they put the box. on both sides. So when I went on my visit in high school, there weren't the skyboxes, and then they were there. That place was rocking. Like I said, we lost on the last session, so it was a great game. Another one where we scored late in the game, and then y'all answered and ended it right away. But I think we have more national championships than you guys, so I can hang our hat on that one, even though most of them were in like the 40s and 50s and right after World War II. Yeah, Michigan doesn't have a lot of national championships. I think we have 11 national championships

and one came after 1942. So it's a little tough. Michigan, Notre Dame, doing their best. The stats are in. Oh, what is it? All right, what are you got? And this is because you guys played against each other.

Like, if we're throwing, we could throw Nebraska in here too, but we won't do it. Games played 44. What were we going to say, Kyle? I was going to ask if you guys were even in the top five in total wins. No, no. Oh, no.

No. We're close, though. We're close. We're up there with Natties. All right, here we go, win. or games played 44. Michigan leads 25 to 18. Well.

Most home wins. Michigan 15. Most road wins. Michigan 9. Neutral site wins. There's only been one. Michigan 1 and 0. Biggest,

biggest blowout is Michigan in recent years, 2003 and 2007. 38-19-19-19-old. I remember the 2007. 38-0-0. that one. I remember watching that one. That was my senior high school. And it was, I think Notre Dame was like three and nine that year. Jimmy Claussen got sacked like 14 times in the big house. And John Sullivan was snapping the ball over his head. It was bad. I remember watching that

one. That was brutal. Jimmy Clausen was like the truth at Notre Dame. He was like the, he was like the next coming of Jesus. He was touchdown Jesus. So my my sophomore year in 2009 on, on offense, We, Golden Tate, Michael Floyd, running back super underrated, had an unbelievable pro career in Detroit, was Theo Riddick. Theo was like super shifty. Armando Allen was a running back that played in the league for a while. Myself and Tyler Eifert at tight end, I mean, we had like four dudes that were either a thousand yard receiver or pro bowler in the NFL just on offense. And we went six and six. That's wild. If that's not coaching, I don't know what is.

We couldn't stop a nosebleed. I mean, like, you know, like I said, we lost to you guys on the last drive of the game after scoring to go up with like a little over a minute left. If we had the ball at the end of the game, you know, we had a chance to win it. If we didn't have the ball at the end of the game, we usually have just scored,

and it was either we got to stop. The six games we won, we got to stop. The six games we didn't. Obviously, we know how that ended. You guys had some play. players on defense too, though. You guys had Harrison. Stefan Terry was a little later after you, Manteo was there, him and his girlfriend. He had 12 players on defense all the times.

That's a good, hey, that's a good little, that's a good little. What was your genuine reaction when you found about the Manticail thing? When that came to light his senior year, what was your genuine reaction? I had been gone for a couple years, but that was the national championship year, which my class, a lot of my buddies were still there as fifth year seniors. And I remember them kind of throughout the course of the year. Like that storyline started maybe even the Michigan game. I think you guys played at Notre Dame that year.

And Manty's grandma and girlfriend passed away that week. And so obviously it was just like gaining steam, gaining steam. And a lot of the guys on the team that I were talking to were like, this guy like, it's not even, he doesn't. doesn't even talk to her. Like, this whole like girlfriend thing, people keep making it a huge deal. And then, you know, once the media gets told of a storyline, it's kind of hard to backtrack and be like, oh, well, I really don't have a girlfriend. So we'll just ride it out. Never thinking that this girlfriend would come out to be a guy that you talked to on the phone three times. So you, you couldn't really

backpedal at that point. But yeah, so when when the story came out, I wasn't surprised that it was kind of all fake, because there was some, you know, wishy-washy feelings from some of my buddies that were there when it was going on. But to hear how the whole thing was kind of put together was pretty funny. Dude, you're like a unanimous All-American, probably first-round pick. And what do you, what do you not even FaceTiming? You're not even, you're not even FaceTiming with the girl. You're just regular dial-up phone calling this person, whispering something. Runner up for the Heisman. Yeah.

At Notre Dame, runner up for the Heisman. And you're like, you're like, it's kind of hard to back pedal, but he didn't, he didn't just not backpedal. He cried on national television.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he fully bought into, he needs to be acting somewhere in Hollywood. That's exactly what I said. He bought in.

And once he bought in, he rode that wave, like you said, he went all the way. I mean, I had to imagine, like never, what he, they told me that he was at the college football awards,

you know, the Home Depot Awards or whatever that they do in Orlando, I think, and just racking up the awards. I mean, had an unbelievable season. And his phone rang from like the number that he associated with his girlfriend that apparently passed away. And it was like, oh, shit. That's when it all started to fall apart. Oh, my God.

He for sure, like, he had like the tire. Woods effect because he was killing it he was going to be a first round jepic like unanimous first turn jepa there wasn't even an argument there all this stuff comes out still a second round pick right yeah charter second round pick but like career never got going i think that i honestly believe man taito was crushed by this fake woman like his his confidence was killed who like who he was his identity as a person was just totally taking thrown out the window and never really recovered from it no i mean you you hit the nail on the head like the whole tiger woods thing You know, just think about, like, how much of sports are just like that confidence that you have and going out there.

And when you're a runner up for the Heisman and you lead the entire country and picks as a Mike linebacker, I mean, like, you're just going into the game every week. Like, I'm a baller. Like, let's do this. And then when something, yeah, something like that happens, you got to be just shook. Everything's over. Everything's over at that point. I don't know, that thing blows me away. Because I've, like, weirdly been with Mantiaheo.

Like my, like, my career, like, barely been around him. Like, we played in the All-American game together. And it was, like, him and Matt Barclay, both wore number five. Both were our captains. And he was, like, the dude, right? And then the dude's been the dude since, like, before Marcus Mariotto, like, Mantiahua was, like, a Hawaii's mascot. Like, there you couldn't go anywhere.

That's true. He couldn't live. And then Marcus came and, I mean, Marcus can't even take a commercial. a flight to Hawaii, I don't think, without getting bombarded. You know, it's, it's wild. This episode of Bustin with the Boys is brought to you by Cuts Clothing. Listen, a T-shirt is a staple in the game. It just is.

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Did you, did you slay in high school? Like, I mean, I had an okay high school career. I, you know, I played in the Army All-American game. No, no, no, no. I don't care about football. I'm talking about you and, like you and girls. Tide end, probably a five-star. You weren't slaying like that.

Oh, that's a, okay, then I know why you went to Notre Dame. They got all the rules, right? You can't go in the dorms or nothing like that. I tell people all the time, like, you know, Notre Dame was a great place for me. You know, Catholic kid from the west side of Cincinnati. It was, I never grew up a Notre Dame fan, though. Like, I literally remember my first, my first visit at Notre Dame. I was like, oh, yeah, we'll check it out.

You know, I'd been to Ohio State, Michigan, some of the other big 10 schools that were all within four hours of home. And the biggest thing for me was going to pay for Coach Weiss who had been in the NFL, new tight ends. Because our position is one, like, no matter where you go as a left tackle, like, you know, there really isn't much that affects you blocking the guy across from you. Same thing on defense. Like, as a linebacker, you know, outside, yeah, you can be 3, 4, 4, 3. Like, that can play into it. But, like, as an inside backer, like, you need to go make tackles.

I didn't want to go somewhere where the whole recruiting process. Oh, yeah, we'll throw you the ball. We'll throw you the ball. We'll throw you the ball. Hey, guess what? We're going to put 40 pounds on you, and now you're going to block all the time. And to me, that's kind of how Ohio State was. You know, I loved going to Ohio State.

I went to the Ohio State Michigan game, one verse two, you know, unbelievable environment. But I looked at everyone in their tight ends, and they were all basically what I am now, 265 pound blockers. But I didn't want to quite choose that life as an 18-year-old when I still had the choice. So I knew Coach Weiss would throw the rock around and use a bunch of tight ends. Actually, Michigan, and not just to talk up Michigan, Michigan was probably, I would have gone to Michigan way before I went to Ohio State, but it was the coach car era. And, you know, Mike DeBoard was the OC, who was the tight end coach.

And, you know, they had three tight ends on the field most of the game. I was like, I want to play right away. So this would be a sweet spot. And then, you know, Coach Carr was getting ready to retire. And, you know, that was what took it off, took Michigan off the table for me. Well, yeah, thank God you didn't go to Michigan. Because if you went there with Rich Rod Regis. I think I would have three.

I think I would have had Coach Carr won, Richrod one. And who was the last one that came in after Richard? Brady Hoke. Brady Hoke. Yeah. Yeah. Rich Rod never used tight ends. He like, no.

Like he was 11 personnel. I mean, there's a tight end there, but the guy was, it was not, it wasn't like that. Kevin Coger, he was our tight end. He was a good tight end. I think he did a really good job. He's actually out at, he's a tight ends coach for the Green Bay Packers now. So he's doing, he's doing well, but it was never like, if you're a tight end, those kind of spread off.

It's not tied in you. College. Yeah, exactly. You're not. It was a good move going to Notre Dame for sure. Yeah, I mean, you got, you were drafted in the, what, second round, 43rd overall, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. shout out the boys, Minnesota Vikings. We got you for like 10 minutes. Let's talk about your NFL career a little bit. Talk about some of the beginning. You made the Pro Bowl twice. Talk about your rookie year, your early years with the Vikings. So I think one of the best stories early in my career, 2012 season,

I was an alternate for the Pro Bowl. And Tony Gonzalez was the tight end from the NFC that made it. And I had no idea. I'm going to leave on yours? No, he's got. No, he's good. Oh, there you. So I'm an alternate for the Pro Bowl.

Our season ends. I think we lost in the first round of the playoffs. We had like four weeks before the Pro Bowl. And it was Tony and Jason in the Pro Bowl. I'm like, these guys are both going. I'm like, they go every year. It was still in Hawaii at the time. So I'm like, all right, it's off season.

You know, how it is. You start enjoying yourself, eating and drinking whatever you want. early in my career I played a lot heavier than I do now. Like I would, no joke would play at like 268 and let myself go a little bit. And sure enough, Tuesday of the Pro Bowl, I get a phone call that, hey, Tony's brother is graduating from the, I think, like, L.A. County Fire Department Academy,

and he's not going. So do you want to go? Absolutely, I want to go. Like, second year in the league, opportunity to go the Pro Bowl. Who cares if I'm 284 pounds? I'll run over the Pro Bowl. That's a unit, dude. That's a unit.

Like Antonio Gates and a white body out there, dude. Just massive. I mean, like, I see pictures from that week, and my face is like this big around. And so we go over there. Matt Cleo comes over later in the week as well. He was in an alternate. Trent Williams got hit in the head with a champagne bottle in the club on Thursday. So Friday morning, he had, like, stitches in his eye, couldn't see, couldn't put a helmet on.

They called Matt. Hey, you want to come over? he comes over even later than I did. And he was the opposite. He had a hard time keeping weight on. So we played in the game. He was left tackle at 280 pounds. I played tight end at 284.

And we end up having a good time. Great few days in Hawaii. But that's always laugh at people. And they asked, you know, what wait have you played at before? I'm like, well, I kind of played in the scrimmage at 284 pounds. But, yeah, it was a good time. Ait and drank a lot all week long. And people wonder why the Pro Bowl was.

competitive because they don't see the week leading up to the game. Yeah, the Pro Bowl leading up is it's the most fun thing ever, is it not? Yeah. And literally for me, like at that point in my career, I wish the league would take it back to Hawaii for that reason. You know, Disney is great and it's awesome for families. There's a lot more to do in Orlando. But in Hawaii, we all stayed at the same hotel. There was one pool, one bar. And literally I remember, you know, walking past Peyton Manning and Champ Bailey, Jeff Saturday, like these just absolute legends that I looked up to my whole life as a football fan. And they're like, hey, you know, my first Pro Bowl, go to the bar. Like, get us drinks, get us, you know, they had these fried chicken wings that were just absolutely ridiculous.

Probably had, you know, multiple baskets of them a day, which helped me get to 284 for the game. But just the camaraderie of like everybody hanging out from the time we got back from walkthrough at 1130 in the morning. until two or three o'clock at night. No one left the pool. No one left the bar. It's just a huge celebration of a successful year. And then the game is just kind of an afterthought. You go out there, have fun.

Don't get hurt. And if it gets close in the fourth quarter, let's win it because you get twice the amount of money. Right. Yeah. The game is actually the worst part. Like the best part, like you said, is the camaraderie with the bull is like getting to meet these people

you get to see on TV on Sundays all time, but never get to know them at all. that's got to be the coolest part. Yeah, and a story that, like, you can relate to this as a tackle. The last time I went in Orlando, we were, the AFC came back towards the end of the game. So we were in like two minute in the end of the game. And you have these Pro Bowl rushers on the other side. And I think Andrew Whitworth was at right tackle.

And he's like, I haven't been in a right-handed stance since, like, junior high. So if you could chip Von Miller on your way out, like, that would be great. You're not allowed to chip in the Pro Bowl. He's like, just run your route through him. Like, I'm like, I got you. I'll take care of it. Did he he did it? Yeah, no, like I ran.

Oh, that's awesome. What a boy move. I'd like go through or I was like, okay, if I'm going that way, I'll start outside of him and just slow him down a little bit. And but it was, you know how it is at the end of the game. If it's close, guys know, like, hey, we can get twice the money. If I get a sack or, you know, a winning touchdown, not only do I get twice the money, I might walk out of here with a new car.

Like, you know, guys started playing hard at the end of the game. It's like a Honda Genesis or some shit like that. Like, what are you going to do with that? Like, it doesn't make any sense. The good business for me was, like, all the three pro Bowls I've been in, the AFCs won and one like handily. Like the last few minutes of the game is like, all right, well, this is kind of a wash.

It is what it is. In 2013, we won big. We scored like 60-something. It was a blowout. We were kind of chilling most of the fourth quarter. But then the other one in 18, we blew a lead. We had a big lead. It was raining the whole time, which it seems like it's raining every year in Orlando.

But we had a big lead, and then they came back at the end, scored. We got the ball to go down the field in two minutes. And then it just turned into super competitive. Like I said, the rushers were all rushing. I think Vaughn got the MVP getting multiple sacks at the end of the game. 2018. Yeah. I mean, I've never been to the one in Hawaii, but I mean, Orlando is a fun time.

like when you get to shut down the Universal Studios and like you bring your family and do the Disney and you have like your kids are getting the frontal line on everything like you have the fast fast pass yeah like that's that's so much fun dude I never been a blast the VIP tour at Disney was worth it

my girls were like one and a half at a time and love Mickey until we got to meet Mickey in person and they were absolutely scared death just freaking out and it had like a recorded voice So like it would talk, whoever was inside of it would talk and it would sound like Mickey. And it freaked my girls out.

They were not having it. But we used the VIP tour to do like you said, like the fast, fast pass to get in the front all the rides. It was a good way to do Disney. That's for sure. No doubt. I honestly don't think that I can ever do Disney a different way now. No.

As selfish as that sounds, like I will pay that extra money now to go do, whether it's Disney World, Disneyland, either one of them. For you like, when you're a tight end and you're used to catch you. like you like your second year pro bowl alternate like so many catches and then now you go into a different role the next couple of years I know you had a couple injuries but you're kind of put in a role like battle line play we need you to go and block we need we need to do more like max protection stuff from an ego standpoint how does that affect you is that like one of those things it's like you know I'm a pro bowl tight in I don't need to be like I need to catch I'm a pro

bower I'm the man yeah no I mean I would love to just be able to run around and catch balls I mean, it's what I've done for a long time. It's always what's been easier for me. Like pass blocking and run blocking hasn't been what I've done well for most of my career. So it's more of a grind for me. Like if, you know, I'm lining up against a defensive end or an outside linebacker, I just have to try hard, you know, because you're going to be way more athletic than I am. You're going to be way stronger than me.

Now you're going to be way bigger than me. So it's just, it's hard. You know, like I said, I want to run around and catch balls. I feel like, you know, I bring added value to our team in the past game, you know, especially down in the red zone being a taller guy, being, you know, a basketball player. There's a lot of similarities in red zone football and, you know, just going up and getting rebound. And so I feel like I do that well. And obviously, if we're getting sacked immediately or, you know,

we're having troubles protecting. It does no good if we have all these great design plays and I'm out running around. So I get it. There are times where I got to stand next to the tackle and here comes a future Hall of Fame rusher. We got to do what we got to do to win games. But I do.

I love running around and catching the football and making plays in the past game. Just put them in the back of the end zone and throw it up, do the rebound and kind of push off a little bit, go up and grab it, win a playoff game, beat the Saints. Controversial call. There you know. There you go.

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eligibility requirements and additional terms may apply let's get back to the episode what hey we talked about this when we were in Miami we're going back and forth from a defense perspective offensive perspective of the whole push-off thing. I feel like the Saints got slighted a little bit, their own rule they created the year before. What is your opinion? I have to disagree with you because the rule was put in for them.

So for the NFL to have a chance to vindicate like, hey, we put this rule in for you. It's a scoring play, so you don't even have to challenge it. We're going to review it anyways. And we're going to take the time. We're going to look at it. And they still couldn't overrule it. So that's where I know it's just football.

Like, yeah, you know, was I touching him? Absolutely. Was he grabbing me? Absolutely. But that's football, especially down in the red zone. Like, you know, guys are hand fighting all the time. And I've explained it a couple times the difference between like if we would have been close together and I would have pushed him away from me, that's, and it's what George Kittle

did in the Super Bowl. He was running right next to that guy and then extended the arm. If he would have just held him at arms distance away, that's what you're going to get away with that every time because your arms are already extended. Then you just, you basically like remove your arm from them and make the catch. If you do the opposite, if you create the separation instead of just keep the separation, they're going to call it every time because that's what they're looking for is the extension. And for instance, on that play, we were going back and forth. He was grabbing me and it was almost like, I know the ball's coming. You know, it's

cover zero, quarterback draw. The only outlet for us was to throw the fade on the backside. So I knew the ball was coming right away. And I was almost like, yeah, you can grab me like that. I would much rather have a smaller guy, create contact, try to grab me because they're way faster than I am, way more athletic. If they give me some space, they can close the ground, you know, in a split second. So once he started grabbing me, I was like, okay, I'll just let you grab me. I'll keep you at bay, and then I'll make a play on the ball. So that's my story. I'm sticking to it, you know, and it wasn't called. So therefore, it was not offensive pass. after review too.

I'm with the boy, Will. I hate to do it to you. I know you're my boy, but I feel like he's right. Oh, no. I just, I just feel like for, like, if, if there was an opportunity to overrule a call, a game winning touchdown in New Orleans, where the rule was created, that was it. Yeah. No, I'm just glad I got you fired up.

I was actually, I was actually excited for the old Kirk on that one because he wins a playoff game. Everybody's shaming my man all the time about the big game. So I knew that one was huge for the boy. The dime that he dropped to get us down inside the five-yard line was one of the best throws I've ever seen. I mean, just absolutely absurd. And he played huge for us all year. I'd say it every time people ask, like, I literally just got done doing an interview before I hopped on here with you guys. And they're like, what does Kirk Cousins have to do to take you guys to the next level?

Right. And I was like, just do what he did all year last year. year and, you know, maybe one of the other 10 guys on offense can step up and play better. And, you know, just the quarterback's not going to go win games for you. There's 10 other guys on the field. So he does. He always gets a bad rap. But when you make that kind of money and you sign those deals, they're always going to point

fingers of the quarterback. They get way too much credit when we win and they get way too much blame moves. Well said. You, uh, I know we're running out. I know. When's your stop time? You're 145? Hard stop?

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and we officially joined up at Barstool, you were literally the first guy I would talk to. You were the boy. You were the guy. You were, Dave apparently has secret shirts that guys have that I need to figure out how to get. I want to know about your relationship. with Dave and also what if you have a good relationship with him obviously you know with this

call our daddy stuff like what's your what's your bit on that yeah so um really like it's funny because Dave was doing um they started the casting couch like San Francisco Super Bowl they had the bus and they had I think I was on with Dave and Big Cat and I'm not sure there was one other maybe Greg Olson was on like right before me and it was my first time like ever being introduced to Barstool. I didn't really read a lot of their stuff, the blogs back in the day. But all my buddies were like, dude, like they love tight ends and they have this bus RV that's parked somewhere in San Francisco. You have to find it and you've got to get on. So my high school tight end coach is a huge Stooley and it's been a Stully for, you know, the last 20 years, however long days been doing it.

And he's like, all right, I'll reach out. And literally, he's the one that got in contact with him. And they got the address where the bus was parked, showed up, did it with them. And, you know, we had a good time sitting there chatting. Then that summer, I had my charity golf tournament here in Minneapolis. And I was like, bring the boys out. Like, you guys will all be celebrities. Well, they thought they were just like a group.

in my tournament. And when they showed up, it was Dave, Frankie, Trent, and Riggs. And they all were their own celebrities. So they thought they were just playing in a group. And yeah, but I brought him out to be celebrities in my tournament. And, you know, at the time, you know, now that he's like, Frankie can't be a celebrity. Like, what the hell are you talking about? Like, no one knows who this guy is. Like, he's my cameraman. He's not a celebrity. So we had a good time at the golf tournament. And, you know, like we just, it's funny. Like I said, I wasn't really a big stoolie before any of that stuff. And then I try to get out to New York and see those guys and hop on the different shows and podcast and stuff. So, but yeah, I've kind of followed all the caller daddy stuff from afar,

but it never ceases to amaze me that Dave always wins. And like he just, it literally like as I read up on it as I watched some of his press conferences every time it comes out with the emergency press conference. I'm just like, why are you mess with this guy? He always, always seems to find a way to be the winner at the end. It's such a cult following too, right? Like if Dave says this, this is fucking happening. All of us memers, all this video guys, people are just pushing like, oh, let's get them. Yeah, all these videos just put ahead on a movie scene and, the winner's going to be Dave. And you're,

you're just getting crushed, dude. I literally, I, I can't think of anyone else in the world that I would want to, like, have a beat with or, like,

just because, like you said, all the resources of ammo that he has to just destroy you. Like, no, thanks. I'm good. I'm glad I'm team Portland.

Yeah, definitely team important. I got to stay on that team as long as you can. All right. Hold on for your life. No doubt. You appreciate you coming on, man.

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