Bussin' With The Boys - Marshall Faulk On Playing For The Greatest Show On Turf + The State Of Today's Game

Episode Date: April 2, 2024

Recorded: February 6th 2024 | In this weeks episode Willy is back with the solo intro. Will gets to talking about our Nebraska spring tour trip and gets into how he has been having the itch to get back into ball. Given that it is almost Rue’s 2nd birthday, Will gives some fatherly tips that he has learned over the last 2 years. Leave some comments with more tips that you dads out there have. Following the intro we are joined by NFL Hall Of Famer, Marshall Faulk. The guys talk about his journey of making it to the NFL. Marshall talks about the moment he knew he was going to make it to the next level which is a wild story. He gets into how he felt about being traded to the Rams and what it was like playing with Peyton Manning and Kurt Warner. Finally the guys talk about the feeling of winning the Super Bowl and being inducted into the Hall Of Fame. Marshall is a legend of the game and hearing the stories from his time in the league is very intriguing. Tune in and enjoy. 0:00 Intro 4:59 Nebraska Spring Tour/Live Show 6:04 Willy X’s And O’s 13:23 Spring Your Content Release Schedule 18:48 Shoutout No Free Shoutout 29:33 Tier Talk 48:27 Dad Tips 1:06:55 Stephen Hawking Or Hellen Keller 1:11:37 Nebraska said he couldn’t play RB  1:13:23 The Start Of The “Athlete” Position  1:14:34 San Diego State? 1:17:03 Christian McCaffrey Wanting Help  1:20:05 His “I’m Going To The League” Moment  1:22:12 Going From New Orleans to San Diego And Maturing In The League 1:28:30 His Rival Back  1:29:04 The Harsh Truth Og Business In The NFL  1:34:18 Playing With The Sheriff 1:35:18 Greatest Show On Turf 1:43:28 Not Going Back To Back 1:45:18 Spy Gate  1:49:32 London Fletcher Stories  1:53:00 Compton vs Faulk  1:53:34 Steven Jackson As His Back Up   1:55:59 Father Time Catching Up 1:58:47 Has The Game Gotten Softer? 2:04:31 Best Post-Super Bowl Memory  2:05:55 Flavor Flavors Interrupting 2:07:19 First Time He Was Star Struck 2:09:59 Drug Free World 2:15:12 1st Ballot Hall Of Famer Theme Song: Some Of Adams Blues by Quaker City Night Hawks SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Chevy: Head to https://chevy.com to check out all the Chevy truck grit, build your own Silverado and check out what current offers are out there during Chevy Truck Season. DraftKings: Download the DraftKings app and use code BUS to play FREE for a SHOT at the ONE MILLION DOLLAR TOP PRIZE! Only on DraftKings with code BUS. The Crown Is Yours. Sport Clips: Sport Clips. It’s a Game Changer. https://barstool.link/SportClipsBSS ZipRecruiter: Go to https://ZipRecruiter.com/BUSSIN to try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE Twisted Tea: Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today at https://TwistedTea.com/LOCATIONS Dave & Busters: Every Monday & Thursday after 4pm throughout the tournament, Dave & Buster's is celebrating with all-you-can-eat wings and a $10 Power Card, starting at $22.99, terms & conditions apply. Discover: Check out Discover.com/creditcard to learn more about the service you deserve. https://www.discover.com/credit-cards/brnd.html?cmpgnid=dp-dbr-inet-lcs-ps-AT-%25esid!&iq_id=dp-dbr-inet-lcs-ps-AT-%25esidFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But welcome to the episode right before we got on this episode, I was talking to Mitch. Apparently he's been celebrating. he lost his intermurals playoff game. Is it flag football or two-hand touch? It's flag. Flag football. He lost the playoff game

and literally not even 12 hours later the next morning he's drinking espresso martini. He's celebrating, I guess, failure. I wouldn't say we were celebrating. I mean, I got my buddy Dave in town so we got to show him a good time. You don't think I have homies

that come in town that watch the game? When I were playing, then we'd lose. And my boys would be right there next to me. Hey, bro, they would be drinking, you know, They could do their thing, but I knew that we had to focus on the next week. You apparently don't have that. Well, that was the end of the season. Fair.

That's a fair point. And the end of the season, it's kind of like, all right, we had a good season. We had a good run. Lick your wounds for about two weeks and then get back, get back in the gym. Yep. And then we'll, we start another league next week. Dave, did you play it? Did you participate in this league?

I did. I participated in the loss. It was my first game in a while. It was good to be back out there, you know, get the good energy going, be with the boys, playing ball. What positions? I was playing center and linebacker. Center and linebacker. I was just the guy. Nothing of value to offer offensively other than just tossing the ball. It was a, it was a, a checkdown. I was a checkdown guy. I'm not going to do well. I'm not going to burn a safety, but you hit me in the flat. I'll put my

shoulder in your chin and we'll keep it moving. Okay. Damn. See you rock with some good, with some cool friends, Mitch. It is surprising. Why is that surprising? I'm teasing you, You're a guy's guy. You know that. You're wearing our spring game championship shirts. Battle of the Boys. What's up? Oh, the live show.

Live show this week in Nebraska. We will be in Lincoln, Nebraska. What's the theater called? Our producer does not know, and neither do it does myself. It's somewhere downtown. Yeah, I would like to get ahead of something, give you all week in advance.

I will not be at the live show. For those of you purchasing tickets, I will not be there. my engagement party back in Greenville. So I will not be there. Continue. And for everybody wondering, we did not get the invite to that engagement party. JP's like, hey, I don't think I can make this trip to the spring tour.

My engagement party's happening. It's like, you kind of know where you fall as a friend. I guess it is just business with this, man. That's a lie. I know. I do hate that you're not going. Nebraska's like... The best spot.

Clearly I'm biased, but I do. I enjoy. It's so much fun. going back to Nebraska. And on Friday, there's going to be a coaches clinic. Bill Belichick will be in attendance. He'll be doing a, he'll be speaking at the end of the coaches clinic. But I'm kind of getting like, I kind of want to be at the clinic so I can just listen to

everybody kind of talk ball and everything else. I feel like there's a void that's starting to fester up a little bit more personally about being outside of ball and being removed. And I'm kind of getting the itch of like, you know, wanting to, like, I'm asking Coach Rule, what is your meeting schedule with the players? because I would love to, like, sit in on the meetings and listen to some coaching and try to get some tips. Like, just, like, be in it.

You know what I mean? I kind of, like, miss it. And another, like, off of that, too, a new pod that I've enjoyed that I know nothing about. I know nothing about the game of basketball. But I'm a big fan of JJ Reddick, and his new podcast, Mind the Game of LeBron James. I've listened to those couple episodes,

and really I've just listened to the front end of the episodes where he goes over the terminology and kind of the exes and o's of playing the game and everything else. It's just giving me a little, it's giving me that itch to like want to be in it a little bit more. And honestly, to the point, and I would love to know your guys' take on this as well, people watching, leaving a comment to let me know your advice. But how people would feel like if I kind of did like a terminology, did some whiteboard stuff,

because the problem I've always had with like doing the X's and O's of football for everybody else is like JJ and LeBron, they get the copyright stuff. They get to use the footage. Like I don't think we're able to use the footage of the NFL. any capacity, or you kind of get nixed on YouTube. But if we're able to use, the way JJ does such a good job, like presenting and opening up and transitioning and just the production level, he's somebody I've always kind of followed to, you know, to get tips on. He does such a good job communicating with everybody and like teaching the game. I feel like it'd be really cool just in a, just from a

perspective of whether it's defense or he sits with LeBron. And basketball, too, you're able to kind of know every position, one through five, somebody like JJ. But if I were to, whether it's sit with a person, a safety, a corner, an offensive lineman, a tight end to kind of give all the different angles of, say, like, beginner fundamental X and O's, I just think it'd be cool. What would you guys think about that? I would say. In your, yeah, in your expert, content opinion.

I think it's cool. And I think that we definitely should, like, to me, watching J.J. Reddick and LeBron James do it together is awesome because LeBron James is a top, at least a top three player of all time doing this piece of content with JJ Redick who, I mean, obviously he had a great career, but at the end of the day, he's just another guy that played in the NBA. But he was still, I mean, so well known because it was college years. And he did. He played like, what, 12 years in the NBA?

For sure. But in the history of the NBA, J.J. Reddick's not a name that's going to be, it's not like some crazy name. So I would say as you're thinking about it and I know I'm like if I'm JJ Redick when he's coming up with this idea, it's probably crazy in his head like man, it would be sick if I could get LeBron to do it. So I would say sit in your seat. You think of a guy that's retired right now. It'd be like it'd be sick if Tom Brady would do it. That would be sick. And I think it's achievable. Yeah. What I think JJ's done so well at is as he's grown, he's obviously, I'm going to say better, but not as like a disrespectful thing.

I think he's in the 1% of like two professions, right? Or three, I guess. You got the podcasting world where he has his own business there. He's got the media world where he's on ESPN, the basketball world where he's in the top 1% of that. But he's done so well in his post-basketball career to where he stayed in such an X as and O's part of the game because he goes viral from being on ESPN and being like upset over fans talking about this. Like, do we care about basketball? and all the intricate details of basketball because he's obsessed with that kind of stuff. And I feel like he's done a great job of establishing himself there to where he has that credibility.

And I guess that's just maybe not, maybe like knocking myself down. But I feel like LeBron's known who he is. Like me, I feel like, yeah, does Tom Brady follow me on Twitter? Yes. But to sit there to get in something like that, I agree with you. I think that would be incredible because I think what's happening. happening for JJ or what's happened with him. Now you get LeBron because you know you're going to get millions of views

and everybody's going to tune in because LeBron doesn't just do anything. And so he's sitting one-on-one with JJ talking through stuff. That's where they kind of have the footage and everything else. Maybe the time would be a play because he's... I'm just saying if you go for it, I would encourage you to go big. I love that. And that fires me up. Yeah.

Because you are right. I'm thinking of like different avenues because I, of course, quarterback would be the right move. Say it's like a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Boys, if you're listening, I'd love to talk some ball with you. But, yeah. Go big. You're right.

You're right. You're right. What's the saying? Shoot for the moon. Shoot for the moon. You'll land amongst the stars. Yes, sir. It's our light, not our darkness, that most of frightens us.

Yeah. Come on. I appreciate that. And it means even more because you're in that polo coming fresh off church for the man i'll tell you this though what i had this shirt on inside out all of church and i had to get nobody nobody noticed no that's what pissed me off and i i had to go i went to the bathroom hey for everybody listen j j j j j p he doesn't cuss either he's got a little half word in there he was you can tell he was upset when he says that well dude i went to the bathroom towards the end and

i looked at the mirror i was like no shot i couldn't see my i couldn't see my button I was like, oh, no, I can't go back in there because I know the people behind me probably say it's stuff. Like, you see his shirt. So I waited. I was in the very back for the rest of the service, then finally I walked over to my friends.

I actually saw Walker Zimmerman. Oh, yeah. Shout out Nashville to the boy Walker. He was walking by with his kid. And he was like, oh, what's up, man? How you doing? I was like, good, man, you won't believe what just happened to me.

He was like, why are you standing out here? I was like, shirt was inside out the whole time, just now realized it. He was like, nobody said a word in there. Walking up on you, you're just, smoking a cigarette. Hey man, you're good, what you're doing? Ah, you don't know what just happened there, man. Yeah, that's why I'm in this polo. Never again. Never again. Um, but yeah, and for that last conversation, we'd love to know what you guys would think because I'm just kind of like, I don't know,

I'm almost like itching and get into some more football content and like trying to figure out, like, how to do it, especially if we'd be able to use, like, footage to break stuff down. And I don't know if it's like, like, like, Rolovsky, like Orlowski, like Orlowski would be a lot of fun to sit down with. He would be good. He would be really good with. that stuff. But when he was kind of, I was seeing his thing last week where he was giving flowers to Peter Schroger and then, and then McAfee on the McAfee show. But he would just record, like his iPad. Like, I wonder if that's something where we get, where we would get in trouble doing that. I'm not, yeah, baldinger. Yeah, baldie breakdowns. But again, he's somebody that

works with the network. So I'm, I just get curious if that's like, you kind of like get a pass for doing something like you get the copyright stuff or you're allowed to do it because you're like on staff in the media. Update with the spring tour content just to like let you guys know how we're going to be releasing this stuff because I know we were at Florida State last week and we had some awesome conversation with Coach Norville

he was a lot of fun to sit down with. We sat down with Braden Fisk, Peyton Patrick and also DJ Uyunga Glei Oonga Glei Oonga Glei. Uiunga Glei? Yeah, maybe it's Uiunga He was fun to sit down with. I also think it's Patrick Payton.

Yeah, what I say? Peyton Patrick. Oh, my fault. My fault, P. My fault, Pee, Pee. But those were fun conversations. Those interviews are going to be released next week. So if you guys are watching now, what we're going to do is Coach Norville.

He's going to be our main bus with the boys interview. And then we're going to be dropping those interviews with the players the day before. And is it the day after? Is it all going to be on Monday and Tuesday, Mitch? Do you have, do you know? I think we still have one. more episode before? No, but we'll just, we'll put, we might push that one.

We might push that one back. Okay. Or we might just do Norville that same week because what I don't want to do is I want all the Florida State stuff to come out when it all happens. Yeah. Because I know next week, just a tease or just a shout out who we're going to have next week. We had Michael Bisbing in Vegas as well and 300 is next weekend. So, right?

It's nice. Two weeks from now. Okay, yeah. So that'll work out fine. Yeah. We'll do, because we want to do BISB right before UFC 300. He was a fucking blast. Talk about charisma.

He was a lot of fun to sit down with all of his storytelling. But ultimately, all of our spring tour content is going to be coming out every week starting next week. We did Florida State last week. That will come out next week. And we're doing Nebraska this coming weekend when we're there on April 5th and 6th. We're going to be sitting down with Coach Ruhle. We might have a quarterback sitting down with the boys. A big interview coming up.

And those will release the following week. So we'll get that stuff rolling out week after week. Florida State 1st, Nebraska 2nd, Oregon 3rd, Alabama 4th. And for those with the live show stuff, again, everybody last week who came to the meet and greet had a fucking blast with you guys. Thanks for showing up. And again, apologize about all the live show stuff, how we had to pull the day before. That was a very bad move on our part. We should have let you guys know sooner, as soon as we found out, because it was kind of like a, you know,

we didn't know until like that week leading up to it was kind of up in the air about the live show and then sponsors that were involved with the live show and then hey it'd be good if taylor taylor is present and then i was like okay if we can move this show one of these shows being the florida state one if we can move that to like a national one for when the boy does get back it'd be a lot bigger because i feel like at times we have a big following i mean people love that we came out to florida state but again like last week whether on twitter in the episode like selling like 30 tickets. We kind of shoot ourselves in the foot because a lot of tours, if you think about it, say a comedian or I'm ignorantly going to say like a local band, like you plan your tour

around where your biggest audiences are at first. We plan our spring tour around getting into new markets with college football. So Florida State is an example. Oregon has another example. Alabama's closer to Nashville, so I'll be curious to see how that live show, how that turnout is. But we base our stuff around the content shooting at these colleges and where we shoot ourselves in the foot is we obviously we don't we're thinner audience-wise when we go to different corners of the country so we're not we didn't have our live show in florida state we moved that to Nashville we're doing one in lincoln because that's obviously your boy um and then in alabama we'll see how that one turns out so we have those three live shows

Nebraska this week april 5th we have uh Alabama that's going to be April 23rd April 23rd April 24th one of those dates and then the Nashville one we're trying to figure out the space we're going to use and we will be announcing when we'll be doing Nashville. So all those live shows will still happen. Shout out to the boys who showed up in Florida State last week. We had a lot of fun, drink a lot of, drink, a lot of twisted tea and had a good time with you guys. And so that's the update on all the spring tour content. What else do we have? Should we hit a, you know what I didn't do? I didn't hit that Chevy Reed. But we have Draft Kings. The Greens at Augusta will soon host golf's greatest players in Draft Kings is bringing

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I see Mitch back there. Oh, yeah. Shout out the espresso martini, Mitch. I got one. I actually do have one. Okay. Because the past two days, I usually, don't have allergies, but now for whatever reason my eyes have been, they've been itching.

You saw how my eye was getting swollen in Florida State for all the farting. I was going to say, we were filling that room up with gas. Worth it. I'd do it again. But now my eyes have been itching a lot. And last night, I just had a good, healthy, slightly painful sneeze that just felt so nice once I finally completed it. And I like, you know, had boogers kind of hanging out of my nose after it. It's where you got to wipe it off a little bit after. But yeah, just shout out. A good, hard sneeze that clears you from the sternum all the way up into your nose.

Bro, and sometimes it's enjoyable when you just do three sneezes in a row. Yeah, but if you hit four, it's annoying, like to everyone else. Right, but if you're kind of sitting, chilling on your own. Yeah. You're kind of enjoying like, okay, this little sprinkle coming to my nose again. Like, why am I sneezing so much? and you just boom. Look up at the light.

Yeah. How many sneezes do you think you get before people can stop saying bless you? I think you got two. Yeah, yeah, that's how I feel. How do y'all feel? I mean, my mom will go on, like, when she sneezes, it's not ever just once or twice, it's like six or seven. You just kind of let her have that, like, a sneeze.

Attention seeking. Sneeze attack. Those are the intention seeking sneezers out there. Attention sneezing. And we'll just wait until she's done sneezing. and they were like, bless you. So, but because we... Right when she hits one,

or you're like, hey, is this going to be one of those? No, it's always one of those. So we kind of learned that... So you just say, here we go. Yep. Mom, do your thing and we'll bless you when you're done. Stand back. You remember that little, uh, the people used to say like,

hey, when you sneeze, you die for a second. Like, your heart stops beating. So that's why they say, God bless you because you were like coming back to life. No, but I like that. You like that, huh? I, uh, somebody, I think I was in like middle school when somebody told me that they're like,

hey, you know why they say, you, right? Like, God bless you. It's like, so it was when you sneeze, your heart skips a beat. Like, you die for a second and you come back. So I was like, hey, but so say it again. Say it again. What do you say when I sneeze? Bless you. Bless you, right? Yeah. Like B-L-E-S-H. I mean, yeah, if you're like, yeah. That's how I say it. Bless you. But I feel like it just runs together. Bless you. It's just always caught my ear. What was a... I say bless you. But yeah, you get people too.

It's like, bless you. They see this again, bless you. You kind of say it like, you bring it down like, all right. Move rooms if you're going to do this again. Yeah, attention seeking. Like, okay, what are you, what's going on right now? They say it again, you just got to say, hey, that's enough. What's going on at work?

Okay, bless you again. All right, come on, man, shut up. You're around with somebody now if you just get upset with them. sometimes I'm like that with Charo She'll like hit a third one I'm like Are you good? I'm going to watch TV Yeah you need me pull the car over

Fuck Mitch what do you got I'm gonna go with the low hanging fruit I don't know if you're shot when your boys come into town You just kind of We had a good time It's been a minute since I've seen Davey And

This trip kind of happened Like on a little bit of a whim But he stayed up with this all week It was couch crashing and then we were able to hit the town pretty hard Friday night and Saturday night. And it's always a good time being with him. How do you take care of you, Dave?

Did he feed you each night? Like, what are we working with at the pantry in the fridge? Out of respect, I did do a grocery run because I was there all week. So that's the least I could do. At least I'm keeping the boys' pantry stocked. Oh, you were stocking him. I was stalking him.

You notice and you're like, hey, is everything okay? Like, I'm going to go shop. His snack selection pretty much blows. So I really had to upgrade him in, like, the granola bar category for sure. Popcorn, you know, get a little skinny pop in there. White cheddar, age white cheddar. It's like crack. That is.

Yeah, that's a good pool. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt about it. Pantry suffers like that, Mitch? Because you don't even eat actual meals, right? No, like my, it's bad. How old are you? 25.

I mean, I guess that's... I'd be 26. That'd be 26. I guess that's like I feel a little on par But I mean I mean I just got to like Take the time to go to the store And like pick some good shit out

I just like get the necessities Like my peanut butter, my jelly My granola bars for lunch Like you're rich crackers Yeah my wrist crackers I need to get like vegetables and fruit And meat I have meat

What kind of meat do you get? I got some of that chicken got some ground beef. One thing I get a lot is Italian sausage. That's how you mean. I'm staying stocked up with the meat. I need to make a cost of a one. One bite. Everybody knows the rules.

Yeah, it's sausage, boy. But I told you all I started that oats, a little oats, a little concoction. So I'm kind of taking a little bit more care of myself. Morning more, the morning oats? Yeah. He's got the morning oats coming out of the fridge. You talk about how he takes care. He's been taking care of his body.

And then within the next 20 minutes is a pandemic. Express arrived. That is what happened. Dave, you got a shout out? Hey, I've got to say, you've been crushing it on the bus that far. It's like you've just been one of the boys. Everybody wants to, I literally, I've just met this man. I'm a listener, man.

I'm a listener. I'm a huge fan of you guys. Shout out, no free shout out to the bus, man. I'm really happy to be here. Thanks for having me. Let's fucking go. Let's go, man. I don't necessarily, I don't have one.

That's not going to cut it. It's not good enough. Shout out no free shout out. April Fool's jokes. No, bro. Rue turning two? Probably the sack race. Yeah.

Yeah. Shout out. No free shout out to sack races. Mitch run the clip. Hello. Thank you, Joe, girl. As you guys saw, I leave everything. I leave everything out on the field during competition.

Honestly, my wife had to stop me. I wanted to get in against the kids because I saw them do the first heat. And I was like, all right, I'm sweet out all my drink. She's like, babe, like, you're not. Like, don't go out. there on the kids like you don't have to do everything for content i was like okay you are correct those facts are true and then we get out there the adults tailon's like we're going to do an adult sack race and i see some of the boys get out there i'm trying to get chanler out there he of course pussy's out um

but i see randall cobb and his boys his sons were winning the kids ones and i was like i got i got to i got to make a stand here we can't let the cob sweep the board now on that race everybody thought randle cobb won that was a photo finish i think i think think I'd give myself the nod. If you saw the clip, I'd go down hard. I start off, I'm like, okay, how am I going to do this? There's five of us sitting here. I'm just going to go quick.

How is my low back going to do in this situation? I'm kind of going out here, dry, no warm up. And so I start going, and once we get halfway through, I realize, you know, I can fucking take this thing home. And so I start picking it up and going, and I'm just lunging and reaching him, bro. I just, I get hard. Bro, I get hard. Whoever's filming.

And I think it sounded like Brie Chandler. She said, oh, my God. But yeah, I don't know if you shout out to sack races, man. By the way, I was either, because I was texting with Randall, I don't know if he commented this on the Instagram post or texting me this, but he was like, hey, sack race at Beer Olympics. Maybe you do a sack race at the end of Beer Olympics, like do it in kind of the final, the finals, like part of that heat.

Is he coming? Yeah, I told him to come. He needs to come on the bus. Yeah, he's down to come on the bus. We're having some fun conversations about the Jets, the Packers, because he's been on the Jets, the Packers, Houston, Dallas. So, yeah, I think Randall would be awesome. Bray has really good Roger's stories.

Yeah, Zach Wilson stories. He's part of all that. When Will was telling me about the sack race yesterday, I asked him, I was like, oh, he kind of looked like you won. Did you win? he was like I don't know they're like

I think but they were saying Randall won or something but they were like hey man they were all there but he was mad

they said random one for some reason I don't know I stayed quiet about it but I did ask Charles like hey you thought Randall won that

like I could have swore I got him he's like yeah I mean it was close me it was just sack race but yeah

shout out no free shout out to that we can dude let's tear talk it is when is this this drops on

a Tuesday, which is exactly April 2nd. Let's talk about April Fool's jokes. We're going to tear talk, our favorite April Fool's jokes on the internet of all time. And we're going to start with Mitch right after we talk about

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All right, now we'll take our, you can do the little whatever. Mitch, we'll just take our little break and look up our favorite. How long have we been going? 28 minutes. Perfect. This is fucking, God, God, Will, you did it again. Please leave that part in there. All right, all right, all right.

So we're doing our Tier Talk, Best April Fool's jokes. It's going to be kind of a mix. We have some ones that we remember on the Internet. We're going to talk about a couple classics that we've done ourselves. something that we've seen, some that we've heard about. We will kick it off. Mitch, are you ready to do yours? You ready to your list? All right, Mitch.

Best April Fool's jokes. All right. So I'm going to start with an honorable mention. This is one that, like, one of my teachers told me that he did in high school or college for, like, his senior prank. They got four pigs and, like, let them into the school. And they numbered them one, two, and four. So when they found, like, the fourth pig or the pig with the number four,

They were like, where's the third one? So kind of like a little with all. There's actually only three pigs, but it's numbered up to four. Yeah. Kind of a little something like that. That's why it's an honorable mention. That's a good little prank. Anytime you can do stuff to the school, man.

Like if there's any, you don't know how big our high school audience is, but hey, you get a couple, get a couple bangers here. And then my tier three will, because this one, it doesn't, it takes a lot of effort to kind of do this. and like you're kind of an asshole if you do it. But like you're saran wrap the toilet. So like there's like you're just the layer of saran wrap that's clear right over like where you sit and pee. That was one of mine.

And when you pee on it, like you're peeing on the saran wrap, it just sprays pee everywhere. And you're just immediately pissed off because then you've got to clean out piss. And you're saying that's at the urinal or are you talking? No, that's on like the toilet. Like we could do it to. You would do it under the seat? Yeah. So if you said to.

the shit you're just sitting on shiting on this right real quick yeah yeah what the fuck starts hitting your tain

a little bit you start smelling it oh my so that's tier three and then tier two I feel like this is a classic is it star 69

or star 67 it's it's one of those it could have been both of the like no caller ID right literally prank calling people

that one's just a classic did you have a go-to prank call I didn't per se because I was kind of nervous to do it But I just kind of We would try and like Just make our own story based off ones that Roy Mercer I know I've talked about Roy D. Mercer

On the podcast Roy D. Mercer this like incredible He's like a radio guy who always did like these incredible pranks Do you know what I'm talking about? Roy D. Roy D. By God Mercer It sounds familiar You got to get you If you don't know who Roy D. Mercer is you are

Yeah, I got tap in You are not tapped in, bro That's why I said I got to Yeah But then So my tier one This one It's a really quick one

But when it happens to you Your stomach immediately drops It's like when someone Text you or like Come up to you He's like Yo did you mean to post that And you're like

Oh shit Like what did I just post something I shouldn't have Like maybe you were Nice little quick one Talking to somebody Like that Maybe things were getting

A little bit A little freaky or something and you you... Hey bitch, got the photos out there. And somebody comes up to you and you like,

oh, did you, did you mean to post that on your story and you're immediately like, fuck, like, what did I just do? And you like, go and like,

everything's there. And you're like, oh, you're such a... But that immediate anxiety that hits you is like, your brain just starts going everywhere.

So that's my tier one. And that is my tier. I love that. We did that to Travis. Right, right, right. Hey, you meant to post that last on your story? He was playing it all,

but he was like, I was like, hey, I'm just fucking with you. He's like, man, I was thinking of my head, like, yo, did somebody post something when he was out here in Nashville tied in you? Hey, you meant to, you mean to drop something in your story? I saw you kind of got it off there late this morning. He's like, ah, you know, he was just trying to play it cool. And I was like, I'm just fucking with you.

Dave, you got something? You want to get in the mix? Yeah, I'll get in the mix here. Tier three is kind of a classic one. Like, you cover your buddy's car or something in Post-it notes, and they got to go through and they blow all over the plays. Then they can get banged for littering if they don't pick it up. So it's a total, it's a total inconvenience for him or her.

And my tier two just would be like me and my boys, you got to do it to the very irritable teacher, but you hide like important items that they need in the classroom for the class period. Delay it all. I don't want to have to watch this PowerPoint. Let's screw their clicker, like just totally inconvenience her in her day. and then a tier one is actually something I did to a roommate. My roommate loads R. Kierig before, the night before, just so he could pop the button,

whatever, have his coffee made. Well, I replaced it with a Papa John's garlic pod one time. And he wasn't paying attention. You know, he sets his coffee, lets it go. So the boy had a sip of just straight garlic water and said it was horrible. That's solid. a good execution. Yeah, yeah.

It was definitely a very starting. He's got to be a little distracted to where he's not looking. It's premeditated. You know, I had to be down there and made sure I was having a conversation with him so he didn't see it or any of that. And it worked out. It worked out in my favor. Nice list.

That's a good list. JP, what do you got? I'll do my honorable mention will be just any time your friend falls asleep and you just start stacking stuff on them. I don't know why. I always think it's hilarious. They fall asleep and you just put like 10 pillows on them. and one time in college, one of our friends fell asleep,

and he fell asleep face down, and we spread peanut butter on the back of his leg and we're, like, putting crumbs that were on the ground in it. And this guy, he was nasty, man. He went to the gym, and he didn't notice the peanut butter until he got to the gym. Like until he had to change? No, no, no.

He didn't even change. He woke up, went to the gym, and then he texted us, did you guys put peanut butter on my leg? Dang, you just now finding out? Right. Or like when you take a marker and just, you know, obviously draw dicks on your boy's face. Yeah. I love cock.

That's like... I actually have a photo my phone, Mitch. I'll give it to you so people can see a reference. Sorry, Logan. Yeah. The middle school sleepover pranks are brutal. My tier three was, I think, whatever Mitch was saying. saran wrap.

So you can saran wrap the toilet or you can saran wrap the doorway. The person's like a head legs. They're walking and they just smack the saran wrap, which is a fun one. And then there is Tier 2 auto-correct. You can change, like say whenever you type the word the, you can change somebody's phone to where it could say like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like something that, you know, you know, like, is part of their language in texting. Yeah. You go on their phone and change the word to...

So say if you do it to your parent who's super conservative, you'd be like, anytime they say the, it'll say, I love Joe Biden. And so they'd be like, hey, you know, what's the? And is I... Why does this keep changing to this? Happy transgender day. Right. Oh, yeah, that is today. We're recording.

A prank we did on my mom. I think I mixed these up. This is actually two or two. My brother, he's super savvy with phones. And so he was able to text my mom from an unfamiliar number. And he was texting her as if he was somewhere in our neighborhood and was dialed in on my mom. And he's texting it. And it's like, why is there like a white truck in front of your house right now?

And we're all in the room of my mom knowing my brother Sam's doing this. And she was not saying anything at first because she doesn't want anybody to panic. You just sit here on the chair. She gets up, goes to check. She's like, this is so weird. We're like, what's going on? She's like, nothing. And then the next text is like, you should sit back down.

She's like, okay, guys, this is really freaking me out. She's like, here, look at this. And she's showing us the text messages. Are you guys playing it up? Oh, yeah. You guys still like, oh, we're like, it's probably Alex, my oldest brother. Like, it's probably nothing. Like, he's probably here because it's around Christmas time.

Yeah. She's like, this is just really weird. And we just got her an Apple Watch. So she was setting up her Apple Watch during this time. So she's thinking it has something to do with that. And so my brother, Sam, who's orchestrating this whole thing. Every now and then he's texting her, it's all connected. Like, your watch is all good.

Yeah. And so she's like, They keep saying it's all connected. And then she's like, you know, the message will say, you know, like you need to put your dog inside before something bad happens. It's all connected. She's like, what's connected? Are you guys a break? Are you guys laughing at this point?

No. Or were you guys kind of spazzing maybe looking out windows being like trying to figure it out with her? We're like, mom, you got to stop texting this person. Like, they're just messing with you. And then where we couldn't hold on any longer was. I literally, I got my brother's phone that he was texting it with. And I was like, Mom, let me see what's going on on your phone. I walk over there and I take a photo of my mom, like this angle, me to you.

And then I give the phone back to my brother. He sends her that photo. She said, no, no, this is too far. How did they have a photo of me? And we start dying laughing. God damn it, Mom. I just took that photo. You should know it's us.

That's a good one. Now we consistently just hit her with the it's all connected. randomly. Just a lifetime of callbacks to it's all connected. And then honestly, yeah, I'll just, I'll leave it at that. That one, that last one was your tier one. Yeah, tier one. And that's a, that's a good fucking friend.

Mine, it's like you were singing before we did the tier talk, but you got the classic rubber band around the, around the, what do they call it, a little faucet gun. Yeah. A little hose, a little faucet hose. That's an all-time one. My honorable mention is be like, you know, you know, when you find, when you get one of your boys

and you just like, we were at school, and you guys probably done this mission, I'm sure you did it. But you just kind of find the weakest one and you like grab them, you like undress him naked and like throw him in the shower. Yeah, totally. I just wanted that for a potential clip. I just run that out there.

Yeah, those are good. I mean, we did do that, but it was the top three. He wasn't naked. He wasn't naked. He wasn't naked. He wasn't naked. He wasn't naked. He's in his boxers kid. Oh, man, I can't wait to send this one to kid because we did. Like his name was kid. Yeah, his name was kid.

Kid Fields. I love basketball from Jason Kidd. Oh, got you. Yeah. Did you ever do the one in, like, the locker room where you get like a cup of water or the guy just got out of the shower and you just throw baby powder on them and they got to reshower? No, but that's solid. That's a nice little locker room prank. That was like a, that happened to me as a freshman in high school.

Like, the guys would just, like you would get out of the shower and they would throw a baby powder on you and then you had to reshower. It's just a major inconvenience and you're just covered in. baby Potter. By tier three, I got a couple good internet ones. We can run you guys these videos. But the first one is when there's this like airport prank to where on April Fool's, this airport would take somebody that came in the airport and would have them printed on a newspaper. So if they came in there at security, they're getting this newspaper printed out. And they're doing a green screen of like an interview, say like breaking news. So and so they're dangerous and armed. Stay away from them. Report them if you see them.

And so the person would come through security and they would sit. And the guy who would have the newspaper would try to intentionally find a seat and put up the newspaper in front of them. They would like kind of glance and look at it. I'll let Mitch run the clip. On the metagality. The people are going to follow the person. Weinlich, circa, 6thous.

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jacket. Dringent is this woman, she has been since yesterday on the frontmettk on the

flukes. The fluechews is unrechewarting and a very dangerous dangerous dangerous. Good morning. See you stressed?

We see them stressed out? There had me what for you. That's my tier three. I felt like that was like an all-time video of an incredible prank. My tier two is the teacher one I was looking at before we started this. There's this one to where they preface it.

Again, we'll show the video. But they say that the teacher, there's a classroom policy, if your phone rings out loud, you have to answer it and it's on speaker. Okay. You might want to, um, okay, okay, thank you. Um, thank you. I'll call back later.

Thank you. Hey, I want to publicly apologize. Um, that's okay. I've, I've been expecting this and. Okay. I already know what I'm going to name the baby. The first name will be April and the middle name will be four. And my tier one, the best prank that I've pulled off is my April Fool's joke two years ago with Rue being born.

She was due on April 20, or on March 27th. Her due day was March 27th. So she was like a week late because she was born on April 3rd. April 1st rolls around and like my wife, she's having trouble sleeping and everything else. I'm kind of sitting up early in the morning. And I'm just like, you know, it's April Fool. It's like I should just do this fucking baby prank. Like, because everybody knows when I'm about to have a kid and everything else and we're all hyped up about it.

And so I put out a tweet like seven in the morning. After laboring all night, she's finally here. I can't believe this perfect little one is ours with the white baby emoji. Willa Earleine Compton Born at 632 AM 4-1-2020 You Are My World It's a photo of this black baby

And what's crazy? Stephen Chey Stephen Che of course He like responds Congratulations buddy I hope everybody is doing good I said we are all good She's a daddy's girl for sure

And Taylor even hits me up Like hey congratulations Bob I was like bro I'm fucking around I go well Well, it makes you think I will make that post and put it on social media and not like already have let you know that Ruiz came in.

And he was like, dog, I'm so like thankful. I'm like thinking to myself like, did Will really just post a photo and like he hasn't told me yet? Like, you know, on some friend stuff. And but that's my tier one, the black baby prank. Because it was going so nuts.

Like it gets into the, oh, you're racist crowd. Not crowd, but it's just like the audience that doesn't know you or know your humor or anything else. I want to make everything about race, but even though the joke was about, like, Dan, you better get a double look at that.

That's not his kid. But that is my, that is my tier list for April Fool's jokes. Speaking of that, Rue, she does. She turns two on April 3rd, and I was thinking, like, yo, for any expecting dads out there with daughters, I've, you know. Yo, great call, Mitch, producer Mitch. I should read an ad before we go into this.

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So probably around that 12 to 14 month range. All right, here we go. The power of the secret. This is a great tip for fathers out there. Really parents in general, I'm trying to help my wife out and perfecting this craft. But the many you can teach them about telling them a secret, like whispering to them. And they're kind of like caught off guard like wise dad whisper. into me. And I beg, Ro, do you want that to tell you a secret? And she was like, come over. She'd

like, yeah. I'd beg, no, no, no, you got to whisper. You got a whisper. And she'd say, okay. And then whatever you want them, whatever you want to get them to do, they're all ears. So she might be starting to cry or panic a little bit. This is real life experience, boys. And she's spazzing out. You want her to take off her clothes to get her in her jammies. But she's pissed and run around. She wants to jump. She's got the zoomie. She wants to have fun. You immediately just go to, Hey, hey, do you want me to tell you secret? Come on, Mitch. Hey, do you want me to tell you secret?

You'd be like, all right, come here, come here. You got to whisper. You got to stay quiet. And then they lean in and you're like, you're like, hey, it feels weird that I'm whispering right now on the podcast. But immediately, they'll go from freaking out to they are all in on executing the secret.

So that is the power of the secret. No matter what, you have to, you have to whisper. You have to get them down to your level. And I promise you, they will go from 100 to fully focus and ready to execute whatever that secret may be. That is one in the toolbox for you guys. This is for dads. This is for dads as well.

If you're home, do bedtime routine together and ultimately take turns who does story time. Like my wife and I, we do a good job of doing, we do our morning routine together, and we do the bedtime routine together. So if I'm somebody who's reading the stories at nighttime, this is not only good for being a dad, this is also good for being a partner,

being a husband, is you do the routines together and then you alternate who does. story time. So that way, me around my daughter, she's used to seeing, she's used to seeing your old man, because you never want to get behind the change. You never want to get behind the sticks to where it's like they're all mom everything. They're all, you know, mom feels like she's just always in the trenches because she's the only one who can handle any type of chaos. Like the baby always wants mom and never dad. This helps you be around at all the moments of the day, whether it's the morning routine, the nighttime routine, all of in between. Also going off that,

eating dinner as a family. Charles, she's done an incredible job of holding us a count. able to do dinner as a family. I myself would like to have been lazy at times and then I'll just hey Rue if I might want her to in my head because I'm lazier will allow her to watch say Miss Rachel and then I'll go put or I would want to go put the food in front of her and allow her to eat and watch TV. That is a massive no that Charles never wanted to do. She always wants her to hey no screen like limit screen time she gets like around an hour a day of like watching Miss Rachel or watching something or whether we do movie night on Fridays. And Charles done a great job of making us or setting the expectation that we do dinner time, like as a family. So we make

her plate, whatever the wife cooks, maybe your boys on one of the factor meals, whatever it is. We're always sitting at the dinner table, eating together. And on the dining room table, I would highly recommend Ryan Holiday's daily dad. Each time while we're eating, Rue now, she even tells, she even tells Dad Dad, Dad, Dad, Read, and I'll read whatever the daily, the daily where it is from the Daily Dad. I highly recommend the Daily Dad from Ryan Holiday. Pizza Friday and movie night. You have your yearly, your annual traditions for holidays and everything else.

Your boy, we love to do Pizza Friday and movie night. I've obviously been a big proponent of Pizza Friday. Last week, my shot-on-no-free shout-out was Home Team Pizza. That got your boy hooked up with a free pizza and a free six piece of those buck-eyes and garlic bites.

Pizza Friday and movie night. Roo, every Friday now we'll be, hey, Hey, you know, Rue, you know what day it is. And she was like, piece of friday. And doing like a weekly, weekly little family tradition that gets them fired up. Give them chores. You get them, you make them a part of your tribe. This was something I wrote down that I feel like is very good.

So after dinner, it would be like, let waffle out of the pantry because we'll make waffle eat in the pantry. So that way she's not, you know, she loves to eat anything that's dropped on the floor. And sometimes she's gotten some bad shit in her mouth to where she's like drooling or vomiting. So we have to make her eat in the pantry. But one of Rue's chores will be like, let waffle out of the pantry after dinner time. or any mess room makes with her toys, she knows she has to clean it up.

Or if you have trash as a parent, dad's great tip, you have trash. Once you teach them how to go throw their trash away, your trash is now their trash. A great chore for them to do. Interrupt them until you love them. That's a sweet little gesture. That's just a nice little breakup.

I learned that one on Instagram. Exercise before everyone wakes up so you can be a part of the morning routine. I know myself, honestly, I've had a bad week of working out, meaning it's been non-exist and I haven't worked out this week. But anytime I feel myself in a much better mood, a much better way when I do working out first thing in the morning. So I'll try and work out before Rue wakes up.

So that way you're able to be a part of the morning routine. So if you're able to be part of that morning routine and you got to, you know, if you're, if you're, if you don't have to leave for work too early, you, I base it around all that stuff. Workout, morning routine, then I'll come hang with the boys at the bus. What else do I have? Another little queasy one. I feel actually weird saying this in front of you guys. Love on their mother in front of them. I feel like that's really good,

especially for the girl dads out there. You get to like set a standard and kind of should be the role model in front of them for hopefully what they look for one day and a spouse and not some deadbeat, dysfunctional ass clowns out there. That's it. That's what I got.

Another one that I'm just now thinking of that I was using today is going off the power of secret, the power of being like, hey, can I ask you a question? Because sometimes, like, say I'll go home. Right now it's Sunday afternoon. I'll go home. If mom puts her down for her nap, she's like,

she almost expects mom to be there when she wakes up. Or if she's not wanting dad for some reason to wake up, I'll like come in and she'll be like, for whatever reason, they'll just be weirdly fussy that you might be there or they're just upset when they wake up. You quickly just immediately, hey, hey, Roo, Roo, can I ask you two questions? And you immediately get their attention? Boom, first one, the one that I always default.

to you, how was your nap? Was it good? Did you have a dream? Or who did you dream about? And they tell you a story. But that gets them, that gets their levels. If they're fucking weirdly having an episode or just spazzing out for no reason, you simply interject and say, hey, can I ask you two questions? And for whatever reason, that makes them feel like, oh, dad needs me for something. Oh, mom needs me for something. So those are my dad tips on my first two years of parenting. Hopefully there's dads out there. If you're listening and you're like, oh, he's on some game or You have another dad tip. Drop them in the comments.

We'd love to know. We'd love to build this dad club together. But those are my dad tips, boys. Any that you guys might know about from your old man or something that you might have had as a kid that you're like, hey, this would be a good. Any tip of advice, student of the game, I'm always down. JP, I feel like you usually have something.

You usually just have some for me, just sometimes just out of the blue. And I'm like, oh, that boy, J.P. hit me. That one video I said, oh, my gosh. That's a great one. It was basically like... You're here to be memories for your kids. Yeah. That was a banger.

Which is incredible. Run the video, Mitch. Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm better with like ages five through kind of like probably 18. But I think with the young kids, because my fiance, she has some young nieces. I don't know. I have a pretty easy time getting into like the mind of like. little kid so I can play the games with them.

And it's like if you're playing like freeze tag or, you know, like if they touch you, then like you can't move your arm. But then the only way you can move your arm again is if they touch it. So then it comes back to life and they start freaking out. But I think something probably good for, because I feel like dads maybe sometimes have a harder time connecting with their kids. It's just like getting, you just get on the floor with your kid and like that's where you play. Because that's where they're at.

And anytime you go to their level. Yeah, you go to their level. And it just, I feel like it makes everything easier. I don't have kids, but. Yeah, no, you're going to crush it. You'll crush it. Yeah. You'll crush it.

Dave, I barely know you, but I feel like you'll crush it. Thank you. But no, for sure. Oh, we got to, your boy, we'll get you aclimate between that two and five. Because, you know, Roo, our JP came over yesterday. So we had to shoot this, we had to shoot this stuff for Shell gas station, shout out. No free shout out. And this morning, when Rue woke up and we're like, you know,

what you dream about? And she honest, like, she'll just rattle off everything from her memory. Right. Her grandparents, like, she'll just start, she names everything. And then she'd be like, Jopi, Jopi, you're Jappy. Let's go. And then she'd be like, like, when we went downstairs and I pushed in the car and we played like Chase or something like that, and she was like, Japie, Jopi?

I was like, yeah, you play with Japie yesterday. And I was like, oh, he's not, he's not coming today. He's not coming today. Dang. You'll crush the dough. We'll get you accolombed between two and five, but you're spot on. Honestly, I feel like when you say like dads, they can't connect with their kids as well, I just, to me, in my opinion, I feel like it's like just one of those ingrained societal things that's kind of like, you know, dads aren't necessarily in the mix for all the little things that mom does all the time. Right.

Like I know, like talking to my dad, it seemed like he didn't really change many diapers. Yeah. So I knew my mom was always like, she did everything, right? or if something's going on, it's like, oh, tell your mom or something like that. Versus like my wife, she does a great job holding the line on like, hey, I'm in this thing for a partnership, not a, I do all the motherly roles.

Yeah. In her opinion, it's like bullshit that like mothers are better nurturers than men. I think like mothers are better nurturers than men. But I also think the truth to that is like, yeah, I don't think there's always that effort put in from the male side of like being on their level and being intentional with doing stuff and making sure you're a. around in all of those moments. So that way, you know, you're just part of their life.

Yeah, it's like kids are, I forget what the exact quote is, but it's like kids are the only people on this earth that like strive to have a relationship with you. Yeah. Like of the seven billion people in the world, only your kids are ones that are like all in on wanting to be a part of your life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like it might like Jordan Peterson might have a clip.

Like, you're their number one relationship, like all they want to. a relationship with you. Right. Which is true. And going off the video that you said, like, we're here for their memories. There's another video I saw that's like they say that kids can't remember anything before four. So they were talking about the gift of the gift is them being there for you and your own memories up until then and embracing it. But all the dad shit, bro, it is the greatest thing in the fucking world.

It does get hard at times. It very much does. But it's been so fun. I can't, you know, knock on wood, trying to get more. How do you feel about, like, technology and stuff when it comes to kids? Uh, I don't know. You're saying, like, allowing them to do screen time or allowing them to use it? Well, like, one thing that I see a lot, and it kind of pisses me off,

because I remember, like, growing up and stuff, like, the parents will, like, they'll be, for example, when you go out to dinner and they just give their kid, like, an iPad or their phone or like a little play pad or whatever and they're just locked in on this and like you're just essentially like on a date with your wife or whatever like when I would grow up like when we would go out to dinner

we would play hangman or like we would get the coloring sheets and my dad and I or my parents and I would like we would color when we play paper football and like flicking stuff like I say I hate when you go out to dinner you just see little kids locked in on a device and like not having that like conversation

and stuff with your, like hanging out with your parents and stuff. No, no, I agree. I mean, Roos, you can't play hangman right now. Well, no, I'm just saying like. Flick football. But, yeah, getting the coloring sheet. We, like, obviously, like when you're, whether you're around friends and

sometimes you just learn things like you don't want to do, like, as your partnership, like some parents, they do the, we've, we've known friends where they have their iPad. They have headphones. They're locked in and they're just obsessed with the screen or like playing the game where they get fussy, so they just give them an iPad. Roo, yeah, we don't have her doing anything. for Rue, it's literally like, Bluey or Miss Rachel. It'll be like a little before dinner and then maybe after dinner,

depending on like how she is. Because usually we try to get her to go outside. So that's when we can like throw the ball with waffle. But I mean, like, Charles does a great job like when we're out and doing stuff. Like Charles has been somebody from after doing the like maternity leave stuff, like not wanting to being like intentional with like, hey, if I still want to go do these things out and about.

Like I'm just going to bring Rue. versus basing everything around Rue schedule. It's like we have the structure around Rue, but bringing her to all that stuff, like when we brought her to Italy and everything else, like getting her in activities, like for socializing. Like she does gymnastics, she does ballet. Obviously, I dropped that sick highlight tape on ballet.

What else does she do? She does swimming lessons. So she'll be busy like three out of the five days of the week, and then on weekends, it's like in the morning times, we always go out to eat or we always do something, whether it's make breakfast and make her a part of it. But as far as like screen time and everything else, it's kind of like it's one of those things that I feel like you figure out

in your partnership with like how you want to raise them because I do feel like Char and I are try to be very intentional about the things that we do with Rue to where when we say we take her out to eat, like, yeah, she's not really. The only time we would have her look at a video on the phone and she likes to watch herself, whether it's when she did trick or treating, that video was hot for a while.

Or I put the highlights of her of ballet. so that way we can do her hair. Mom can do her hair. Braided or whatever. You just play that in front of her. But yeah, as far as iPads, phones and stuff like that, we don't, we don't, like, I guess, allow that. Or if we're on the plane and she's sitting in the middle seat,

we have, like, a backpack with, like, whether it's stickers, putting on the books and some interactive play things that she does. So it's not like, it's not like I have, like a strong stance. Like, I think that's all that's ridiculous. What do you got, JP? Is it my shorts? No, I'm just. I was just taking a photo.

Okay. Usually you got like Oh, we'll tweets from this spot Anytime the phone goes up And JPs behind the phone I'm like oh fuck What's about to happen? But it's not like I sit there

You know, different strokes For different folks Like I know every parent's trying Doing their best But I know like we do try And think about screen time Like we're around Bakhtiari And they have their little one

They're like oh we don't do any screen time And so it makes me think in my head Like oh should we Should we go from whatever screen time We do to zero And I wonder why this and you get caught up in comparing which I think sucks but no the stuff that we do uh yeah yeah we it's not like again they answer your question yeah we're not big proponents in all the screen time stuff

and if she does do it we hope it's like like blue he has their like 10 minute episodes and miss rachel's like very interactive like learning education um it'll be way tougher when they're older i think that's the tricky screen time yeah which it's kind of like i don't necessarily know i think it's just as you go you try and learn and make the best decisions you can because we grew up differently than everybody else, right? But at the same time, the world's ever evolving. And so it's technology. So technology is going to be a part of their life.

And so I feel like it's just like trying to be intentional about what styles of technology they're using, how they're using it, making sure you're not getting into things that they shouldn't be. Like you see the stuff quiet on set coming out and about how, you know, and just the predators out there and everything else going on. like being in their lives to where you're keeping them

or trying to guard them or keep them from making bad decisions. But ultimately, I think it's like, you know, trying to instill in like your core values and doing all this routine stuff, like really being intentional in their lives. And if they tell you something, be like, oh, I'm really glad you're talking to me about this or encouraging conversations

so that way they feel like they can pick your brain and I feel like they have to hide stuff or have to do different things. It'll be interesting and that makes me nervous. But I don't know. Florida is trying to sign about. Bill. Maybe Desantis did sign it, but, and it would be so hard to enforce, but I like the sentiment of it, but no social media for kids aged like under 15. It's like illegal, which I think

would be super beneficial. Yeah, yeah. There are a lot of like pros of that. And I would be interested to hear like the arguments against him because I'm sure there's like fair points. But with, in my head, we know how we know how we were when we were young. And we just, if we had all this access and everything else, we would love it and be obsessed with it, but there'd be a lot of things that just wouldn't be good for us. You know, I feel, I'm thinking about how I was back in the day, like, who knows what I would have been up to on social media? That could have played against the places we are now.

I have no clue, but yeah, that's, it's all fascinating with that technology stuff, man. But let's get into Marshall Falk. How long we've been going, Mitch? Hour 15. There we go, hour 15. This was longer than anticipated. I thought I was going to have to just come up with different things. But we, you know.

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20 Stephen Hawking's, but their chairs go 30 miles an hour, or 10 Helen Keller's with pistols? And just to educate me, how the color is blind and deaf, yeah? Yep. With pistols? Yep. Wait, wait, what does Stephen Hawking have?

He has. I think Stephen Hawking. He has... It's 20 Stephen Hawking's, but their chairs go 30 miles an hour, so they can hit you. Oh, yeah, I'm dumbying him. Yeah, because to me, it's like, you got to take one below. And right when he's about to approach you,

because all 30 of those chairs are coming at you, you just, you jump. There's fucking inshull. There's 20 of them. Yeah, but. But you jump on the first one and put his shoulder right into his chin. All those other chairs are going to come in. I mean, fucking these wheelchairs,

they're going to have to figure out how to back up and turn around. I'll be sleeping them while they're trying to figure out how to maneuver. And you knock one wheelchair over. They're out. Yeah, literally just, oh, they all ran into each other. Start picking them up and flipping them on their back. I mean, 30 miles an hour is pretty fast. But once again, they're all going to try and collide.

It's not like they're going to, unless they're trying to scheme. I'm still going to sleep all the Stephen Hawking's. It's only eight miles per hour faster than Tyreek Hill. I think that Helen Keller's. Yeah, but they got pistols. They can't hear that, you know. Maybe they're shooting themselves. They'd be spraying.

But maybe they'd be shooting each other, though, JP. Yeah. Yeah, y'all never been in a shootout. Yeah, Stephen Hawking, like, yeah, we'll be dropped. Well, yeah, I think I'll drop 20 Stephen Hawking's before they can get typed out whatever their strategy is when they communicate with each other. Even if once they hit you I can take the hit

Yeah You're talking about what 20 mile an hour or 30? 30 Yeah 30 miles an hour is pretty fast Yeah but Again you don't

You don't believe in yourself Against 20 Stephen Hawking's I'm just saying I like I You like your chances with 20 pistols being fired 10 It's 10 Stephen Hawkins or 10 Helen Killers Yeah but all it takes is one to hit you bro And you're down

You could get you hit by a chair and you're going to be down. You're not going to be dead. Yeah, you're not going to be dead. It's like once they hit you, then, like, what are they... You're just going to keep running you over. It's not like they're at 30 miles and hours immediately. They're going to have to build and have some acceleration. They're going to have to maneuver out of their little short space.

And I do well in tight spaces. I played 10 years. I fell off a car going 20 miles an hour. Same. Fell or jumped? I was... My girlfriend at the time was, like, started driving. and I, like, just playing a joke,

and I, like, hopped on the back of her car. Oh, Jesus. She forgot I was there for a second, and then, like, sped up, and I started sliding and hit the payment. Yeah, but that's you hanging on to a car. Imagine you're taking off 30, and you fucking got Stephen Hawking.

You're behind him choking his bitch ass out. I would hit the little... And then I'm on the wheelchair. Yes, bro. You sleep, one of them pull him off the wheelchair. You got the chair. roadblock Yeah, yeah, I'm doing it.

Give me Stephen Hawking. Give me Stephen Hawking in a massive octagon. Steve in the afterlife, Mitch. All right, on to, if you've held on this long, thank you guys for supporting the boys and watching along. Make sure you're subscribed, commenting during the episode. Here's Marshall Falk. He was an incredible interview as a young Missouri boy growing up.

Obviously, I was pulled in a lot of different directions. Whoever was winning was usually who I was rooting for. and when the Rams became the greatest show on turf, everyone was a Marshall Falk fan. So this was an incredible interview. It was really fun to get to sit down with somebody that you grew up kind of watching who was a superstar in your area at one point in time.

So without further ado, Marshall Falk. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Marshall Falk. Let's give a round of applause for Marshall Falk. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Absolute legend.

You just flew in just now, yeah? I got in, yeah, earlier today. earlier today i grew up an hour south i don't know if you're familiar with festus or farmington missouri yeah yeah but you're a legend bro thank you you are a legend and it was it's a it's a pleasure to have you on our podcast right on man uh you right before the show we were talking and uh you saw the Nebraska shout out the big red but you mentioned that osborne coach osborne uh-huh was the first coach and he was he was honest like first day i i was there You sit in with them and this before you go to your position meeting.

And he asked, you know, what, so what do you, what position you think you can play here at Nebraska? And, you know, like, this is the early 90s, Nebraska rolling. Yeah. They rolling. And the only reason I took a, I took a visit because Mickey Joseph, who's from New Orleans as well, had just became the quarterback there. And I was, and I thought, because I'm right in between Mickey and Vance.

Okay. Vance Joseph is Mickey Joseph younger brother. So I'm in between them two. And I was like, man, if I go, I get a year to play with Mickey. And then I'll play with Vance because I thought Vance was coming there. But Vans ended up going to Colorado. So did Nebraska offer? They did.

They did. But I had to play corner. Really, man. I mean, you were. Like, I mean, you were an athlete. Listen, man, Coach Osborne is a legend. Yeah. When he was at Nebraska, they turned out so many athletes, so many first rounders.

So, I mean, he knew what he was talking about. I was pretty good corner, but I had to love, I had a love for playing running back. So it's a little different. Was all your offers kind of split? Like, teams wanting you to play corner, teams wanted you play running back? Most of them wanted me to play corner. So is that probably the biggest reason you want to say? Well, no, no, no, because on offense, they were lazy.

And I'm going to tell you what happened after. So I play quarterback receiver running back. But on offense, I was just a corner, cover corner. So they couldn't tell what I played on offense. And right after that happened, about, let me say, right around maybe 94, 95, they created the position called athlete. So when you recruit a guy, you recruit him as, you just get an athlete. Yeah.

Because they realized, damn, if we'd have got him in here, found out he could play multiple positions. But back then, they had to recruit a position, you had to play a position. You couldn't just be an athlete. If Tom Osborne would have came in and been like, listen, you're a hell of an athlete. We see you play all over the place, utilize you in ways no one's ever seen before. You're going to Nebraska?

It would have been easy. I mean, it would have been an easy decision. I mean, Nebraska was like cream of the crop. Early 90s. It's a good reference to Cornhusers. I mean, 88, 89, 90, they were dominating fools. Man, hey, that's got to feel good to hear, dude. It does feel good to hear.

It sucks that we didn't, you know what I mean? like I was born and a quarterback. Yeah, it happens. I went to the University of Michigan, so I have to ask it, Michigan offer you? No. Who's in your top? Who's in your top? Michigan wasn't recruiting, you know, they weren't recruiting in the South like that.

Michigan, Michigan, Notre Dame, they had that idea of they wanted people who played in cold weather. That's the kind of, they didn't understand the difference in speed in the South versus the North. Who is your top three and why did you choose San Diego State? San Diego State wasn't even in the running. It was Nebraska, Miami, and Texas A&M. So why San Diego State? I took a trip out there. I was like, I want to live here.

This is nice. Plain land, you take the 163 down. You're riding. I'm like, I've never seen anything this beautiful. And the only thing I could think of, yes, I get to spend maybe four or five years at a school, but I get to live here the rest of my life. And so I live in San Diego. You still live in San Diego?

I still live in San Diego. What part of San Diego are you living in? La Jolla. La Jolla? Yep. So when I was training, I would be in Lucadia, Carlsbad, in Sanita's area, dude. Awesome. It was, we'd stay, like, on the bluff, hang out, like, just a way of living out there.

Like, Southern California really just can't beat it, dude. Yeah, I fell in love with it. My trip out there, I just, I fell in love with the city. The school's so open, and it's just like, and then it was like a melting pot. Like, I mean, and I was, I had never been around any Asians, any no Mexicans. I was like, there's everything at this school. Like the diversity was unbelievable.

What was the process like going into the draft? Because you were number two overall, right? Number two. Number two overall. Talk about that because obviously like running back now, you got somebody in the top 10, it's like, oh, that's a big leap. Like back when you were a running back,

like the running back was the premier spot that you drafted at, you signed guys, like you built around the running back. Guess what we didn't do in college? The running backs that got, drafted early that you see going one, two, three. Guess what we didn't do in college? We didn't share the back field.

You watch college down. You got three and four guys playing. I'm like, who's the guy? You can't tell who the guy is. Yeah. So if you don't step up and demand, look, hey, I want to carry the ball 20, 25 times a game. And then you're not going to get it. The position, and I'm saying it, the position has been devalued by the guys who want to share time.

Even in the pros, these guys, guys come out. Man, I never wanted to come out of the game. I didn't want somebody taking my spot. Right. And now it's like two run, two carries, like they'll let somebody else then. Right, right. It's got to make you appreciate a guy like Derek Henry then. Yeah, well, Derek Henry, Kristen McCaffrey. Kristen, uh-uh, don't come in for me. Right. I saw, I actually read recently, I think there was just an article on it about CMC talking about how he's connected with you in the off seasons or you giving them advice feedback i think it was like you and ladenian tomlinson taking care of your body just kind of being like christian's kind of like that that style

that you were where you're you can do everything you can catch out of the back field you can line up at receiver you can run the ball um talk about talk about meeting him and and how you've been uh kind of i guess a mentor uh during his career i mean i i wish i could say i was a mentor the kid is such astute. And obviously, we know his father is. The pedigree is dear. But what I love is, in today's game, very few guys reach out. I got it. I know. And the fact that, you know, he'll call and he'll ask certain things. And he's not asking for pointers on how to hit the hole. And he's like, how do I,

longevity, you played 13 years. How do I do this? How do I do that? What did you change about your workouts when you got to this age? What did you, you know, the things that you want to know to like next level, which is how to maintain your body, how to take care of yourself. And that's what he's doing. It's not about what happens on the field. It's about what happens off the field. And he's smart enough to understand the game is going to be played. You just got to be out there to be to play it.

No question. The best, the best, the best, when you have talent and you see it, the best ability is your availability. That's, yeah. With going back to San Diego, San Diego. state when you're having all these big offers and you just go to a place and the location to you is like oh this is where I want to be like was there any family members that was like listen you have an opportunity to go to the NFL here are you sure you want to go to san Diego state you go to Miami but but Miami yeah yeah but 90s but listen and and I'm gonna be I'll be honest with you guys

on my high school football team in four years I probably won like six games like we were we sucked like you couldn't tell but everybody we played like you could like I I scored on when we played against the really good teams. Like, I wasn't on a good team. So it wasn't like you saw in me, oh, he could go to the NFL. It was like, people didn't know. Right. They didn't see it.

So when I got to San Diego State and, all right, now I'm not playing running back, receiver, quarterback, DB, kicker, punter, return kicks, punts. Like, when I walked on the field in high school, I didn't come off till halftime. Yeah. You was kicking and punning? Oh, yeah, I did everything. And when the kicker was okay, I held for him. So I did everything. So they didn't really get a chance to see.

So I get to San Diego State. Now it's just like, that's all I do is play running back? Oh, my God. This is easy. Are you kidding me? I get the rest while the defense is out there. Oh, man, I'm going to be fresh. Way easier.

It was like night and day. So if you didn't know in high, school. For me, I tell the story that I got offered by Utah State going into my senior year, and that was like, okay, I'm going to go to the NFL. Like, when for you, we were like, okay, I'm for sure. Maybe not going to have the success that you eventually had, but like, when did you know, like, I'm going to be an NFL

football player? My second game in college, literally. First game didn't go well? First game, I didn't play much. Yeah. And I got in. It was like we played, I think it was like Long Beach State, and I got in. and I had a couple of good runs and then I, you know, tried to do a little too much and did a spin move

and the ball flew in the air. Yeah. I was like, oh my God! And then the next game, I don't play the first quarter. First play of the second quarter, our starting running back was the punt returner. He gets hit in the thigh and he's out.

And coach grabs me. my face mask. The only thing he says is hold on to the ball. And so from right, right, hold on to the ball. Yeah. So I end up playing the rest of the second quarter, the third quarter, and half of the fourth. In that time, I'd rush for 389 yards and seven touchdowns. Who were y'all playing? Literally. People get mad at me because they, because after that, like, I think after that year, shut down the football program.

It was the University of Pacific. Literally. You ended it entire program. Literally. That's what they say you. You shut down the whole program. That is nuts, man. All right, we interrupt this episode with Marshall Falk to bring you Dave and Busters.

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So I leave San Diego. I go, I fly to Indianapolis for the combine. It's cold. It's like this time of the year in Indy. And it did. It just had like one of the worst blizzers. And I never been in snow. I'm like, oh my God, it sucks.

This is awful. I would never live here with the second pick. Indianapolis coach, take bars of fuck. I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah, take us through your thought process. Probably pumped second round or second overall but at the same time you're like damn I got to go to Indianapolis man I was just like that's all I was thinking about was the wintertime I was just like man it's how cold it was when I was there so I was happy that we played indoors but at that point in time they didn't have an indoor practice facility oh I see you out there in the wintertime yeah yeah my first year my first year we didn't have indoor practice facility so it was a it wasn't it wasn't as bad as I thought it's it's so different when you you're you, like, in college how you see things to, in the pros, like, you grow up real fast when you, like, you're a rookie halfway through the season.

It starts to get, starts to get cold. And you're, you're in the locker room. You're in the huddle. And he's grown men. He's like, grown-ass men. They're like, like, my job's on the line. Hold on to the ball. Yeah.

You're like, man, this, this guy got to feed his kids. Like, like, the game for some people, it's not really a game. It's like it's their livelihood, and they take it serious. And that was, that's like a, that's like a whole other transition seeing the game for what it is. But make, but trying to make sure that it's still fun for you because the fun can go out of it real quick. That's got to be like the hardest thing, though, is realizing how much of a business it is, especially like high school. Like all your boys, like you win in six games, your entire, but every single Friday, the boys are hyped up. Yeah.

After, I don't know how it was for you boys, but hey, it's like how we're going to find a 12 pack of beer after this, you know, chase a couple girls around. thing. But you're all kind of like doing doing your thing. Then you go to college and it's like a little more, obviously more serious. But like no one's got, no one's married. No one has families. You're still like all as a community going and doing the same thing across San Diego. You're all chasing the NFL. Yeah. And you're all chasing the NFL. You get to the NFL. It's like now you're like now. Now, it's like now you're like now. How difficult was that for you to like kind of? They go. They do their business and they'll leave. And you're like, oh, you want to, you want to hang out? They're like, no, dog. What are you talking about? I'm going to go see my family. Like how difficult was that for you to like kind of. like realize and keep the fun when it was so business. Yeah. You obviously like you've got to have the right support system around you. Because a lot of the dudes in the locker room, they're not, when it's over, you're not going to play Madden.

Like you're not going to hang out. Yeah. And your priorities start to change and you start to understand how much of a business it is and you have to start. You have to start. You have a game is fun and you're getting paid a lot of money and it's a business. they expect you to do your job. And if you don't, if you don't do the things you're supposed to do, the fun can go out of

it really quick. Yeah. Really quick. How do you feel like your professionalism and like, you know, acclimating yourself to the league as a running back developed over time, especially as a younger guy, like you were alluding to, you know, talking with Christian about like maintaining your body and everything like that? Like how did you develop as a pro in the early part of your career? That, what I told him and the things that I say to him,

Emmett Smith told it to me. Thurmond Thomas told it to me. Ronnie Harmon, like, these old heads, if you ask, the veterans will tell you what to do. Like, they'll give you the information on how to have a long career and how to last and how to how to continue to be productive in your latter years. I mean, it wasn't a hard thing. Actually, what is hard is early in your career, making sure that you do an offseason, you remain in shape.

you don't go party with your boys late in your career making sure that you value you value the time that you get the train and and don't oh i got to take my kids here i got to go here with the wife the the time that we get those 13 years that i played it's like a blip in my life like it was such a fun time but when i look back at it i was like man that seemed like so long but it was it went so fast so cherishing in the moments that you have and the responsibilities to to making sure that that you are the best that you can be. It's a responsibility that you got to take on because when I'm in the huddle,

you know what I want you to know when you're looking at me? That you can count on me. I want you to know that I did the things that I was supposed to do in the off-season to be here and I got you. And I need to know you did the same thing. Yeah. Was it difficult for you to ask for that guidance

and help from those older guys? No. Uh-uh. No. So I'm the youngest. I got five older brothers. I'm the youngest of six. And I learned, you know,

I learned by, watching them and asking them and I didn't have to repeat they paid the dummy tax I didn't have to pay it yeah no it's fair being the youngest you kind of have to go about it like the humble way because if not the older your older brothers are humble you yeah we're both we're both the oldest uh go ahead well no did you have one yeah I was gonna say uh was there ever like somebody you reached out to for help that was like you got to figure out for yourself no because I was select I was always selective what I did was I I made sure that I formed some type of relationship with the person before I engaged and asked for help. And I think that's what you do.

You just call somebody up and say, hey, you don't ask them about their life. You don't find out about anything that motivate them. You don't find out if y'all have any commonalities. You just ask them. I mean, that's kind of cheesy. Call somebody you get to know them. And that's what Kristen did. He say, hey, man, I'm a big fan, huge fan of yours.

Always loved your game. Like we had a conversation about where I was at in life and what I was doing and how things are going before we got into anything about ball. Yeah. And I think there's just a respectful way to go about it. Who is that rival running back that you always just kept your eye on that you like is? All of them. All of them. Every back that I took to, I didn't care where you were drafted, how good you were. I wanted to be the best running back on the field.

Actually, I wanted to be the best football player on the field, period. That's what I always taught about. I never looked at it as a position. Like I always looked at myself as a football player. Like I was never, I wasn't a running back or receiver or slot. Like I didn't want labels. I was like, I can play the game. I'm a football player.

Right. What was I going to ask? So tasting the business for the first time, like you get traded to St. Louis. Before you get traded, you have some turf toe that you're battling the couple of years before. You did your homework. Look at you. Bro. Hey, listen, man.

You're Marshall Falk. Like I grew up here. You're on the, you're on the. man cover, you know, seeing the jerseys transition to navy, blue, and gold, like, you're Marshall Falk. So, yes, I know a little bit about you. But tasting the business for the first time, like, walk us through that. Like, because, you know, you're drafted second overall.

Like, you're the man. And then all of a sudden you get traded for a couple picks to St. Louis. Like, talk about that relationship and kind of seeing the business for what it is with Indianapolis. Yeah. I was ready for change. And I think in Indianapolis, they were as long as, because my last year there in 98, I almost did a thousand thousand.

Like I was like, we sucked, but I had an amazing year. I almost did a thousand thousand. Yeah. You know, and we only won like three or four games. So I was putting in work. But what they realized was that people were still following me.

I was the leader. And they wanted it to be Peyton's team. So moving me kind of took a security blanket away from Peyton, which actually allowed him to grow up because the next year, they went 13 and 3. And he took charge of the team. That was kind of his leadership way. But for me, that happened.

But in the move, accepting the fact that it was time to go. And it's kind of like I kind of needed it in a sense. Because when you walk into a new locker room and there's guys and it's like, you got trading, you got this big contract, they're looking at you, you're looking at them. And it's like, it's like, who the hell is this guy? Who does he think he is? and you go from a locker room to where you're proven

to a locker room where you have to prove yourself and it puts you back like it gives you that edge back I got that edge back and I was like okay I like this I got to earn their respect before they believe I can lead them and if you accept it like that then the business is easy to deal with how long does it take you to earn that respect in your mind

I mean obviously it's extremely established I'm sure it didn't take very long but I mean the boys on this year both It actually took, I'll be honest, it took a few games. I'm going to tell you, so we were, we were, I think we were 6 and 0, and I barely touched the ball. And I had not won games in the NFL without touching the ball that much. Like I think the first game, I touched the ball 12 times, the next game, like 13, maybe 15.

But we go, we're, I think we were 6 and 0, 5 in 0 or 6 and 0. And we're in Tennessee. We're playing the Titans. And they're giving us the business. You know. It's a real ball club right there. They're giving us the business. A established ball club.

It's a hard-nosed ball club. I'm just telling you, we go into the locker room. I go to Mike Marce. I say, Mike, I understand you being your dishes. Just come to me. And so we come out. We come out the first like five or six plays. The ball goes to me.

We score. And so I kind of took over the game. We're down like 21, 21. 21, maybe three. And we ended up tying it up 24, 24. And they got the ball, drove down and kicked the field goal in overtime. But they had not seen, like, I literally took over the game. And that's when they were like, okay.

Like, all right, now we see who this guy is. Right. Before that, you know, I was just like, I was coasting. I hadn't really taken over a game or played up to my potential because I was just a started office. I was doing, you know, five, eight, 10 yards, 20 yards, score a touchdown here. It didn't, we didn't need to dominate. But like, I was like, Mike. Feed the boy. Like, yeah.

Have you always been a guy that's like, hey, give me the, give me the ball? Or was that like, was that a new thing for you to do to kind of like, that takes a lot of, that's going to go in there and that was always. But my personality was like, if we're going to, we're going to win if I have the ball. That's like, if I'm getting the ball, we are going to win. That's like, that was always my personality. That's like a standard textbook personality trait of a skill position guy that you need. Probably so. You need that. Like, AJ Brown, playing with him with the Titans.

Like, he was a guy that, like, he's not getting a lot of catches. He's like, do you all want to win or not? Like, you need to give me the football. And a lot of guys can look at that as, like, selfish guy. Not thinking about the team, but, like, you want dudes to have that kind of confidence and that kind of like. At that edge. Have that edge of being like, I can truly make a difference any point in the game at any time.

Yeah, I went about it at a little. little different because I mean should I play with ice Bruce Tori Holt so I was always like Mike look no problem like we start the game you throw it no problem but when it get real when it get real like hey you know where to go hey yeah like like he know when I started looking at him like hey yeah let's get going score a little too close yeah yeah what was it like playing with uh Peyton just coming into it was fun man it was fun it was fun it was fun it was was fun. Like, watching him learn the game.

Because he had all the attributes, but the speed of the game was just a little different. Like, your first year for a quarterback, it's moving fast. Like, faster than you ever thought. And he threw a bunch of interceptions. And, I mean, we used to walk off and he used to, oh, I just didn't think the guy could get there. Oh, I didn't think the guy could get there. And then one time, I was just like, hey, Peyton, it's the NFL. Everybody can get there.

Yeah. Like, it's a little different, man. All these dudes are dudes. Man, they were at some point in time, they were the best person on 18. All of these dudes in the league, like, they're dudes. With obviously that rookie year throwing all those interceptions, did you expect him to have the career that he ended up having? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, you could see it. You knew it immediately. Because it was all, like, every mistake was a new mistake, and he didn't make the same mistake twice. Once he made that mistake, he filed it away, never made the mistake again. I love that. Let's dive into the greatest show on turf. talk about that year

we have a Tennessee Titan Nashville native a yard and a half you want a hug Hey Jack give him a hug That newspaper shot reaching

I'll give you a hug No talk about that year man And the rise of the St. Louis Rams It was literally I remember being in that locker room You know from the start of the season and I think it was like, I think it was Keith LaTalat.

Like, why not us? Like, why not us? Literally. Like, why not us? Why can't we dominate the league? And everybody was like, huh. And like that literally started.

You could see guys, because the Rams had a lot of good draft picks, but they just couldn't put the pieces together. And it was, because they had drafted what, Orlando Pace, Gwen Rinsstrom, Isaac Bruce, Todd Light. All of these dudes are first rounders. They had guys that were still on the team that could play.

And, you know, it just hadn't happened for them. But the willingness to just buy in. And we started this thing with celebrating as a team. Like, it started in practice. it didn't matter who caught the touchdown we were going to celebrate as a team it didn't matter who got the sack we were going to celebrate as a team

and that started to feed into the identity and then we had this special teams coach that was like he was the best I'd ever heard get people ready to play I mean and he used to use a lot of war analogies those are the best ones

and ask guys to go and tell him what to do and it used to get people was so fired up. I mean, I didn't even play special teams. I sat in the special teams meetings just to hear him talk. No shit. And he, man, Frank Gans was like, he was one of the best special teams coaches ever played. And in that mantra of us, everybody was like, we got to go to work if we want to do this. And that became our whole thing. Got to go to work. Got to go to work. Got to go to work. Got to go to work.

When you, you guys, so you guys are feeling the juice, you're celebrating. team and everything. Like when did that like, all right, the momentum is in our favor right now. When did it turn into, oh, legit, we can win a Super Bowl this year? After we lost to Tennessee, the next week of practice, how we showed up. I had been a part of teams that lost games and showed up. Like, it was nothing. showed up piss mad like working hard you can see the lineman like o line d line they were in

fights with each other it wasn't the it wasn't the it wasn't the i'm i'm doing defensive scout team or offensive scout team and i'm just getting in your way it was like they were trying to kick each other's butt and and and i was like man these dudes these dudes hungry man and you could you could start to see it and we um i think right after that we played the Niners and the Rams hadn't beat the Niners in like 11 times. And we blew them out. Like literally blew them out. And that's when it was like, there's something here.

There's literally something here. Then having that pissed off team after losing the Titans, how hungry were you guys to play them again in the Super Bowl? We couldn't have had a better opponent. Literally. Could not have had a better opponent. Damn. Came down to the last play too.

Could not have had a better opponent, man. And it was like, if you go back and watch the game that we played them in Tennessee, like that game was just as hard fought as the Super Bowl and to watch the effort of Eddie George and the late Steve McNair, like the effort. Like, watch the last drive. Steve McNair is leaving it all out there. I'm talking dog tired. And this dude is finding a way to stay up, fight guys off, complete pass.

and, you know. What was your vibe like on the sideline, seeing him drive down? Yeah, last play happening. I'm going to be honest, man. I was like, I was so calm because I just didn't think, I was like, I knew a little bit about Fisher. I was like, there's no way he goes for two. Because if they scored, they were tie.

But there was no way he was going for two. You know that route was ran wrong. That route, if that depth was just a little bit more. Oh, yeah. As a touchdown. But that's it, though. The discipline of the game is sometimes what causes, all the times is why you win or lose, the discipline and how you do stuff.

Mike Jones. Yeah. He's the owner who had that final tackle. You also play with, I got to play with him. Oh, stay on the Super Bowl. Stay on the Super Bowl. I play for the Titans. 2019, we're two quarters away from going to a Super Bowl.

Tell me that feeling of running out of the tunnel for a Super Bowl to literally. achieve a world championship. That moment, is it... Man. Because you, like, obviously, extremely successful. Like, you've literally done everything you can possibly do

as a football player. But, like, the opportunity to achieve, like, the holy grail of a team sport. Like, what is that... Was it a moment massive? Or was it, like, how hard was it to stay, like,

kind of composed, just running out of the tunnel, knowing win or lose is the last game of the year, and this is a legacy deal. I didn't even try to stay composed. Smart.

Like, what I did was, I allow whatever was going to happen to happen and that I was going to be able to gather myself and play the game. That's literally when I ran out of the tunnel, I was so hyped. Like I started hyperventilating. I had to go to the sideline and get some oxygen.

I was like so excited because as a kid, like my friends, I'm from New Orleans. We're playing in Atlanta. I got so many people at the game. Like people that spent the last to get there because they grew up. That whole Super Bowl check trying to get everybody in there. And I'm thinking about my boys when we, you know, as kids, every time, it didn't matter

what the score was. Oh, shit, the street lights coming on. We got to get home. This play is to win the Super Bowl. I'm like, I get a chance. Man, you're crazy. Like, I was not going to hold anything back. And, you know, by the time when I ran out, I'm like, I'm amped.

And I tie my, I wore myself out. I'm sitting on the bitch. I'm like, I got to catch my breath. Yeah. came a long away from not coming up the field in high school. Literally, I started the game off tired. And it took, like, I had to catch my second win just to go out and play. That's how much adrenaline is going through your body to play that game.

What a moment that would be. You're the MVP that year, too, right? No, that was Kurtz. That was Kurt. You were second to Kurt, right? That's wild. Like, Kurt was no. Kurt Warner's number one.

So three years in a row. So Kurt won. I was second. I won, he was second. Kurt won, I was second. Three years in a row. To a guy who was filling grocery bags. Amen.

The best grocery bagger in the business. No question. Details, details. Details were never on the bottom. Like, he knew what the hell he was doing. Yeah. What was it like playing with him? Hey, best man I know, man.

I tell people all the time. Like, I'm talking not just football player, but like person. You meet him? Like, so authentic. So authentic. And just enjoy. playing with him. He only got upset with himself.

It didn't matter who was yelling at him. He maintained who he was, and he always stayed in his person and who he wanted to be, like a man of faith, always. Not going back to back. Spigate, Patriots taking it from us, from the Rams.

From us. St. Louis Rams. You were a Cowboys fan. I was a Cowboys fan, but you're still, Like, you know, when the city team wins, as a kid, you're on that bandwagon. You know what I mean? Like, Marshall Falk was on the cover of Madden.

You pretended to be guys like Marshall Falk, Trill, Davis, Eddie, George out in the front yard. But back to the question of not getting that back-to-back Super Bowl against the Patriots. Talk about that. Yeah. That was a tough one, man. You know, for a while, I hung on that loss more than I did to win. you know and and and um you just you just you know you got to let it go you literally let it go and and that's that's easy to do when you play sports you know you don't you don't really

know how to really maintain what you need in order to enjoy the wins it's so much easier to go down and be pissed off about the losses so much easier you know because it it it becomes fuel to your fire You know, you use it to, like, get stuff done. You know, really when you're the best, you're like, oh, I'm going to work out harder. You know, it's like, it's harder to work out harder when you're the best. It's easy to work out harder when there's some adversity or something's up against you. And so, you know, I really had to, like, work on.

Like, I got to let this go. Like, I enjoyed winning the Super Bowl more than I did losing the Super Bowl. Why am I not talking about this as much? Yeah. Do you think there's any. true to the spy gate? I mean, let's just let's just say this. It's not one spy gate is two spy gates.

There's all kinds of stuff that, you know, it's, but in this, in this business of professional sports, you know, Al Davis used to say it. If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying, man. And some people, some people, you know, you find that you, you, you find a way to get it done. And in the game, in between the lines, it ain't holding if they don't call it. Right.

Yeah, but spying. If they don't call it, they got to call it. Right. The league has to throw the challenge flag on itself. Yeah. And they ain't never doing that. Yeah. We're not going to be baseball.

Remember that. Baseball got some tainted. Yeah. League ain't doing that. No, they're not. You're not going to see no asterisk buying these Super Bowls. Trust that. When you,

come back to, obviously you didn't play in Las Vegas for a Super Bowl, but during Super Bowl week, like, is there a piece of nostalgia every time you come back and do all this stuff? Always. Always. Always. Just the memories of, because when you're, actually, when you're, like, so

when I was in the league, I would not come to a Super Bowl until I played in one or until I won one. So I never came until until then. I came in 94, and then I didn't come again until after 99. until after the 2000 season. So you're always wondering when you're playing,

like, what's happening? What's going on out there? What's, like, what's, what's happening? Yeah. And now being on this side of it, I'm always thinking about, like, man, what are they talking about? Like, what are they game planning?

What's the scheme? Like, like, the guys, what are they planning on? Because you talk about how much you're going, man, after we win this, after we win this, here's what we're going to do. After we win, oh, I can't wait, I can't. Like, you're manifesting your destiny. And so you're talking about it. You can see it.

And that's why when you lose, it hurts so much. Yeah. There's obviously a lot of passion in your voice. Like, where did you get this championship mindset? Has it always been since you were a young child? Or did it have to develop over a process of elimination of trying new things and kind of having to pivot if it, okay, this mindset, this way of this body of work is not working for me right now. Like where did you get to

what we're seeing right now? When you're the youngest and because of age, size or whatever, you don't get the win, it burns in you. Like I, so basketball is my first sport. And my brothers, they all play basketball.

And my two brothers that were really good when I got big enough, they wouldn't play me so they didn't want to lose to me. So it's literally just, it's just a competitor in me. Yeah. You know, I compete. at everything. Everything that I do, I compete. And I'm always competing against myself. I'm just trying to get better. I'm just trying to get better. I'm trying to live life better. Trying to be a better human every day. There's got to be like a football players or anybody who plays a sport in general. There's got to be like this insane competitiveness of like about you. Like I feel like it doesn't leave any part of your life. What about it? What now are you like the most competitive in? Um, probably golf. Yeah? Yeah. Big golfer. I love golf. I love golf. It's it's the most,

mentally challenging thing that I've ever done in my life. Like it's, you know, I've never been so mad and disappointed in myself for not being able to mentally focus at something that doesn't hit back. You know, it's like, it's crazy. If you could play somebody, a celebrity in golf, just to know that you could beat them, who would it be? To know that I can beat. Not know that you could beat that, but if you wanted to prove yourself, like a guy like Michael

Jordan, we know he plays all the time. Tiger. Like, I would like to play Tiger in a match and beat Tiger. You think you beat Tiger? I'm saying, I would like to play Tiger. Yeah. And beat him. You just think Tiger. Come on, man. Like, really? Have you seen the clip? There's a, there's a Barstow podcast called For Play, and they did a long drive competition with Tiger. Have you seen that clip? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's on his knees. Yeah. Incredible.

Out drives him? Out drives him? That is just crazy. Do you got any good, uh, I got to play with London Fletcher, like his last year. But did you have any good London Fletcher stories? Because you was You was with him when he was young, like undrafted. Like he always had this look at his eye. He kept it in his entire career. But do you have any good London Fletcher stories?

So the best, this is my best. I don't know if we named them dot com. Dot com. So we started calling them dot com. But here's how I met London. I was on the coach and we had a joint practice because Jim Moore, he and Dick Vermil, they coached together at UCLA. So we meet at Champaign, Illinois.

have a joint practice. All right? And we get ready to do one-on-ones. And like the starting linebacker comes up. I don't remember who it was, and I came up. And I come out the back field. I run a route, catch the ball. Then we move to the other side.

I come up. The other starting lineback came up, caught the ball on him. And then it's time for me to go again. And the linebacker that's up is. like we're in number 66. And I turned around. I'm like, can y'all get somebody else in here? And it was London.

It was London because it was his rookie year. And he was like, you don't want to go against me. You don't want to go against me? I'm like, look, man, I ain't trying to get hurt messing with no rookie. All right? All right? And two years later, I'm playing with him. And we line up.

And he reminded me. He was like, hey, I know you don't notice, but I was number 66 when we were in camp. I said, okay. Did he ever, did you have your strap you in one-on-ones? Oh, no, not, never, no, he couldn't, not, no. But, you know, Paz-Pro. A linebacker back such a cheap one, right, right. Paz-Pro, you know, Paz-Pro meeting him in the A-Gap, catching him off the edge.

Yeah. He won his battles there. You know, I put up a good fight and I'm supposed to lose that. I'm just supposed to occupy your time. Right, right, right. I'm not supposed to win. I'm just supposed to get in your way. Yeah, die of slow death.

Yeah. Yeah, but one-on-one, no chance. I told him, I said, listen, here's the reality. The reality ain't whether I'm going to catch the ball. The reality is you're not going to touch me. In this drill, me winning is whether you touch me or not. Has there been a linebacker to strap you, whether it's in a game? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. It's, listen, it's going to happen. Right. I mean, it's, yeah, it's happened many of times. But, but, like, we're talking situation. Right. You know what I'm saying? If it's third and I got to win, whatever that is, it ain't happening.

Now, you can catch me on second down. You can probably catch me, you know. But if we're calling a play and this play is, it's third in this. And we're going to, they're calling my route or a play to me. Unless they double team me, like, and take me out and make the quarterback not throw it to me. I'm winning. That's just, that was. like guaranteed.

I mean, you essentially, I mean, you were like known for the fall route coming out of the backfield running vertical. I know that was absolute hell for any linebacker to have to do. Just cover Marshall out of the backfield. Listen, what are you thinking about? You're like, okay, is he going to break in and you're going to break out? Right. And the minute he runs by you, you're like, oh.

Are you strapping down? Marshall? I mean, you know, I'll get him every now and then. You think so? Yeah, I mean, I'm going to get, I'm going to have my day. I'm going to have a moment. Not out of ten times I'm going to win? I'm going to guess right at some point.

I'm going to guess right at some point. The other time, I fell down. Come on, I'm going to get, I'll have to guess, but I'll guess right at some point. Then that's when I'll stop playing. You know what I mean? No, Marshall, you know, get somebody else out. I'm not trying to get hurt against somebody like you. Dude, you were talking earlier about always wanting to be the running back, like, never

leave the field, be that guy at all times. Talk about, like, when Stephen Jackson was coming in and you start splitting carries and splitting reps in the later. part of your career. Like, how was that for you? So the story is different than that. When they drafted Steven, I had a conversation, because Stephen and I

had the same agent. And I said to Steve and I say, look, here's the reality. And I told Mike, I said, here's the reality. If you want the job, you got to beat me out. I'm not giving it to you. Like, I'm not, you have to take this job. And I told him, I said,

the only reason why that's the case is in this huddle the best guy going to be here for these dudes. And so if you beat me out, you're the best guy. That's it. But I knew I was, you know, I was, I think I was like 32, you know, and I was like, I couldn't play whole games anymore. I needed, you know, I needed to kind of split time a little bit. You know, I just, I wasn't the back I was.

Right. I once was. So, um, it was. was it was good he learned a lot um you know i i sat down with him and went over film and talked about here's what i see here's what i'm thinking this is my pre-step read you know whatever whatever i could teach him i taught him yeah you know just just in not like taking them under my wing just i want when he's in there i want him to have what i have and how i see things for the other 10 guys in there so And he was, he was awesome, man.

He never, I mean, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're playing behind, you know, guys in his 11, 12th year. Right. You know, and it's like, shit, you can't win the job. That could mess with your confidence, you know? Yeah. It's a young man's game. Yeah, that started to mess with your confidence. And the only thing that kept me in the game was because, you know, like, the mental side of the game.

You know, mentally, mentally, I just, I didn't make many mistakes. And when you can, when your mind is sharp and you can not make mistakes and you can be efficient with carries, always get positive yards. Although you don't hit the home run the way you used to and you're not, you can't do all the things that you used to do, you can still be effective. How was the, how was that process when you started to figure out, okay, I can't hit the home run. I am losing a step. Like father time is starting to catch up with you. Denial. A hundred percent, right?

Oh, yeah. You're in denial. When did the denial turn into acceptance? Maybe the season before my last, so the 12th year. I had a series of games that, I mean, I never got tackled by the first guy. And so it happened probably three or four games where single guy ran up on me. I put a move on him and he got me. and I was and I was like

and I was like man you know huh you just you're thinking like oh that was a good type he barely got my leg oh he barely oh he he hit my leg and it hit my other foot yeah and those are things that

that first guy wouldn't even touch me right and just a few years before and now and now yeah and now I'm getting tackled by the first guy to me that was like you know that's like a wounded animal out there. I'm like, listen, there's blood and water. There's no way. I talk too much smack

when I play. Like, there's no way. I'm gonna be out here and I can't, I can't make the first guy I miss. I'm in trouble. You were a shit talker on the field? Oh, yeah. Who's some of the best shit talkers you went against? Johnny Randall, Rodney Harrison,

straight hand talked all day. Oh, Sapp. Oh, my God. Sapp wouldn't shut up. Yeah. That would not shut up. It's impressive to see a big guy that doesn't shut up. You know, you can kind of motor around that much and keep the jaw sets going the whole time.

Right. Sap was the one. And he had an issue with this guard that we had, Frankie Garcia. And he talks back to him the whole game. Call his name out the whole. Every time we was in her, Frankie, I'm coming to get you. I'm coming.

Frankie, look at me. Anything you're saying to Frankie? Hey, Frankie, it's okay, brother. We're here for you. Yeah. Oh, well, the first time it happened. He was like, Frankie, Frankie, and Frankie, Frankie and I'm looking this way.

Frankie's back as to say, Frankie, he's talking to you. Oh, shit. Frankie, you gotta do something, Frankie. You stand up with yourself, Frankie. I know you hear him. He's talking to you. And offensive linemen, a lot of those dudes are soft-spoken cats. Was he a talker?

Was Frankie a talker? Was he kind of keep himself? Frankie didn't have nothing to say. Frankie's a kill him what kindness kind of guy, huh? Something happened. Frankie was playing somewhere else and him. and sap something happened yeah and they had issues and when uh that's when anytime sap played him regardless of who he was playing on he he got after him damn how it's a bad guy to have on your

back how do you uh how do you feel like the game has gotten softer since you since your guys's era i wouldn't say softer they just they're they're they're playing smarter now in playing smarter what they've done is unfair to defense you know guys are running across the middle like their Bambi. They can't be touched. They're trying to play brave. Like, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, dude, stop running across the middle.

And you're going to get up talking smack to somebody because they can't hit you unless you look at them. Like if I always say, if I ducked, that means I saw you. Yeah. So that creates helmet to helmet. More helmet to helmet contact happens when the guy ducks. You're a linebacker, you're going in. He duck.

Bam, helmet to helmet, flag on you. Right. They've put too much of this. responsibility on the defensive guy. The quarterback throwing the ball not protecting his receiver. The offensive coordinator calling these plays, putting these guys in these kamikaze situations, none of them are responsible. And given a lot of interpretation up to the referee.

Yeah. Putting them in a difficult position. Yeah. And listen, any hit that looks bad, they got to throw a flag. Got to. They have to. Yeah. What were your guys' off seasons?

Like, I'm trying to remember, because we had All-Stod on. And he was talking about, you know, how the union, how it shifted. We asked for all this off time and stuff like that. Like, what were you guys, how long were you guys as off-seasons? Like, when did you have to report when, say your last game was in January? Yeah, so last game in January, let's say February, we started off-season conditioning. And right after the draft, off-season conditioning would be from February until the beginning of April. and then you would leave after April,

you come back right after the draft and do the first mini-camp, they'd have a, you know, if you were first and second year guy with the rookies, you'd do that mini-camp, and then the next week, they'd have the bets would come, and you'd do another mini-camp with the vets and the rooks.

Yeah, and shit, camp was six weeks long. Damn, man, we do that. I mean, we do have made. Soft. And I'm talking about two days. Oh, yeah. Had to practice two days. Not for real, real two of days.

Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah. Not like, Helmets only two. Yeah. Like my rookie year or two-day would be like practice in the morning with pads. We'll jog through in the afternoon. Yeah.

Nah, we were, we were full strap. Ten days in a row. Full tackle too. Oh, yeah, tackle to the ground. God, we all soft. Sure yardage and goal line. Like, live. Now, when you were Marshall Falk, MVP, Marshall Falk,

were you having to participate in all the two of days? I still did it. Yeah, I still did it. Yeah, you all were different. Because, like, that was, I always, my conditioning was how I beat people. I was, like, you, when we got to the fourth quarter, I know you didn't work as hard as me. I knew it. There's no way you worked as hard as me.

No way. What was, what was it like? You had, you know, you had the skill positions like yourself. You mentioned Tori Holt, Isaac Bruce, was all your guys' work ethics just, sickening like you're explaining. Yeah. We pushed each other. Like in conditioning,

like we were all, we race, we pushed each other. Like some of the stuff you saw in games wouldn't even close to what we did in practice. If you thought the greatest show on turf, and if you watched some of the practices, unbelievable.

Just unbelievable. The joint practices today are like the worst. It's like a war. I can't imagine what they were like when you played. Well, now, In today's game, that's all they have to, they understand if they get in the fight practice over. Yeah. Yeah, but it's also like there's not a whole lot of rules too at the same time.

Like there's not, you know, if you get in a little scuffle, like there's not, you have to worry about penalties. Guys are playing a lot harder and a lot dirty. I feel like joint practices are actually more difficult than games to an extent. Yeah. I don't know. Like for us, a joint practice was easier than our practice. Solo? Yeah, because a joint practice, I'm going against somebody who don't know me.

When you're going against somebody, when you practice against somebody who know what you do every damn day, you know how hard that is to defeat him? Yeah. Every day. It's like, the team you got to play in your division, you got to play them twice. That second time you play them, it's hard. And if you play them a third time, you're like, we beat him twice. Can we beat him again? It's hard.

But now you get to go up against another team that's like, oh, man, this is cake. This guy, I don't know my tricks. Right. Looking for an assist with your credit card but can't get a hold of anyone? Luckily, with 24-7 U.S.-based live customer service from Discover, everyone has the option to talk to a real person any time day or night. Yes, you heard that right. You can talk to a real human and customer service anytime.

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you're like hanging out with the most. Todd Light, Tori Hote, and who else? Oh, a guy that, so this is funny. So my backup in college was my backup in the pros. For real?

Yeah, a guy named Justin Watson. How to get to the NFL playing behind you? Like, if you said you never come up to, It just happened. No way. Was he younger than you? And then like you leave, he has a year, he's doing it. Uh-huh.

Gosh, yeah. Yeah, I left. So he was my backup. I left. He had two years. He was in camp with the Chargers. He was in camp with the Chargers, was on their practice squad for two years, and then got picked up when I got traded to the Rams.

You got any good, your best post-Supolmoney in that next, week two span after you guys winning the title. Oh man, just every everywhere I went I think I spent I spent the week down to Miami, South Beach rented a yacht like just The boys just on a bender

Yeah I mean I was I mean you got to remember I never won anything in football Like I never wanted I never wanted to pay football man You know what I'm saying? You never like I never I won a championship basketball baseball baseball I won state running track, I never won a championship in football.

And the first championship I went in football is in the NFL, I lost my damn mind. Now y'all must have been going crazy, too. Most money you spent in a night. So I was a smart part of you. You know, I didn't always take it on. I always had teammates with me. So we split the bill. We always split the bill.

No credit card roulette or nothing like that? I mean, that happened a couple of times. Yeah, but just make sure you didn't get got it. Yeah, I mean, you don't make sure. You know, I've, I've, yeah, I mean, it's happened. It's happened. What's the heaviest bill you've seen? One of the trips we took to Vegas.

Oh, shit. Marcia. What are, my man? What the fuck? What's up, my man? I have to come to you, man. Yeah. What's up, everybody.

What's up, bro? Flavor of Flavis, man. How are we doing? I'm doing. I've been seeing you, man. We saw you in Michigan, right? Yeah, Michigan versus Nebraska a couple of years ago. I had to come in here and score my own version of a touchdown.

Dude. Right here. How you doing, my brother? I'm good, man. I'm good. No complaints, man. I didn't mean interrupt. No complaints, no interruption?

I got to break out, man. You know what I'm saying? I just want to come spend some love, man. Probably see you probably late on tonight. Let's do that. Okay? My man. My man.

Excuse me. You're good. Welcome to Bustin with the boys, man. Hey. I take care. God bless you. Yeah. See him a few, Marshall.

Right on, man. Hey, I did see him back. I saw that chain. I was like, is that? You did? Yeah, yeah. Flavre just jumping in. Hey, what a way to end the show.

Yeah. How do you know Flavor Flav? Oh, man. You used to your board. Yeah, yeah. I know, bro. Yeah. He was on that yacht.

It's him popping in you. Hey, man. Me and Flav, we go back, man. That dude's a pioneer, man. Yeah. You got to love some Flav. Who's the first dude you were star-struck by? Him.

Flavor of love. Probably, I was in college. I just, like, burst it onto the scene. My freshman year the next year, and I went up to L.A. to watch Martin. and to get to meet Martin Lawrence, you know, like in the time when he was doing, yeah, Martin, oh man, I was just like, you know, I wasn't into the whole Hollywood thing.

Yeah. But to see, like, you know, most actors play somebody else, but Martin is Martin, like Martin is Martin Lawrence. So, like, you're getting to see the dude be himself. Yeah. It was just like, damn, this is this dude is, this Martin, man. He was like the first star star that I met. How about

I'll flip it Who was the first dude who You weren't necessarily Starstroke by it But you're surprised That they were super Like knew who you were Or was Starstroke by you

I'm trying You're like oh man This dude He knows who I am Someone comes up there I'm a big fan of you You're like bro You're you

Right Yeah Like Charles Woodson in here early He's like Oh yeah Bustin with the boys I'm just like Oh Charles

What we? Yeah I'm trying to Like We got a call I'm trying to think I think it was I think it was Jay Z

we got a call because he wanted to Jersey he wore it in a video he's in a he's in a like he's wearing a bunch of videos this was like you know late 90s J maybe early 2000 J

one of my one of my jerseys is in his video Oh that's a good one Like I was like me Like my jersey You know cats Cats from New York they don't want to outside his jersey when you're from New York they're wearing all New York and stuff.

Man, that's awesome. That is sick. Anthony, should we ask him anything before we head out? Is he still in here? No. Oh, absolutely. Okay. All right, we have, before we let you go, talk about a drug-free world.

Yeah, man. I know we've been having some good times here, but as you guys see, like, literally, I went to talk to some high schoolers. And these kids, man, they have no idea. They have no idea. Fentinolin drugs, what's going on. And they're curious. And a lot of the times, as you know, we were kids.

The many your parent or somebody said, say, don't do. What do you do? You do. Curious, yeah. And we've just taken a different approach. I tell people, go to drugfreeworld.org. We're not going to tell you to say, we're not going to tell you no. We're not going to tell you to don't do.

We're going to tell you educate yourself. like just like you use Google, go to our site, get the information. Don't let your friend tell you, this drug made me feel like this. And then you try it and you die. Right. Something crazy happens. Literally, we have educator kits, information, anything and everything under the sun that you would need just to understand before you try it, what's out there for you. What got you into that?

I just, I grew up around drugs. And listen, I made it to the Hall of Fame and I wasn't the best player on my team in high school. I wasn't the best player at my community. I mean, you seem like you played every position. I would almost assume that you were probably the best player in your school. You guys won six games. I wasn't, bro. You guys won six games.

You played every school. I'm telling you, man. The best guy sometimes didn't show up, you know. He was cool. He was smoking weed. He was cool. He was, you know, and then eventually, you know, that guy was the guy. you know after my rookie year i go back home he's the guy on drugs you know it's like so you know what do

you do how you let people know um i believe the best way to let people know is by educating them and giving them the opportunities to like hey at your own liberties go to the site drugfreeworld dot org get the information make the right decision was it just like an area that just touched you to be like i want to like get in the space or was there any i was always in the space i grew up around it yeah I grew up around it. You know, it, it, it has touched me deeply. You know, I've lost many of friends. I've had family members partake and have issues, you know, and, and recover, you know, to live a better life.

But everybody don't make it. Right. Everybody don't make it. How, you know, in your experience, do you approach conversations like that with somebody close to you that? That you would, you know, it's like you want to. immerse yourself into their world and try to help them out. But you struggle, like, bridging that gap. For people that are, like, watching right now,

I know I think of a couple situations in my circles where, like, you're just trying to find the lane of, like, getting them the help they need. I guess without, like, being, like, forcing yourself onto them. Like, in your experience, like, what advice would you have with that? What I say is, and what I'm always trying to do is, anything that we find ourselves needing in life, you got to find out why.

Like, well, why do I like that? Why do I need to do this? What is this masking? Because it's masking something. And if you can get down to the core, then you can solve the problem. And the reality is they might not want to, they might not want the problem solved.

They might like how they live. how they live their life. And when that's when that's the case, then you got to back off. Because until they are ready, it's not going to happen. You can't make it happen for them. I can't make it happen for them. They have to be ready. Yeah, that's like the hardest part, right?

It is. Yeah, just trying to get somebody to get out of their own way. And, like, backing up when you're just like, you know, you care about somebody and you're, you know. Yeah. Because anytime that type of situation where you're dealing with somebody that's using or abusing, it's like you want to help them, but usually with people that are abusing something. thing when you go and approach them with that situation it's usually met with resistance

and it ends up in a kill the messenger type of situation. Yeah. Do you go around and speak a lot? Oh yeah. Yeah. And, you know, the idea is that it's just street drugs. It's not just street drugs. You know, there's some prescription drugs that's out here. I mean, prescription drugs are a whole other ball game. Like, I mean, playing obviously, you get in there. They give you a couple pills.

Like, hey, this is you make you feel a whole better? You take it. You're like, oh, I get it. I understand why. people get addicted to these things and their lives end up getting ruined because it is, I mean, it's a deal. It is. It's a bit of a deal. It's awesome that you're going to do that too.

Like you were obviously pivotal and influential on the field, first bout Hall of Famer. And so you have influence beyond that. And it's really cool to hear that you go around and speak and try to, you know, advise and mentor and speak to kids because you're, you know, you're Marshall Falk, bro. You are Marshall Falk. Got to use the platform for, you know, others just,

other than just making money. Yeah. Yeah. You got to make a difference too in this world, man. No question, man. Last one, hang on, hang on right before he goes. First Ballot Hall of Famer, what was it like that knock on your door, however it happened? Were you expecting in your head?

Are you like, I am a first ballot hall of famer, so let's see how this shakes up? So I'm going to tell you the story, all right? It's just a true story. But this was before the knock. This is like you gather with your family and friends. they announced it. They brought you to the Super Bowl, and then you would go meet somewhere,

and they would do like a press conference, wherever that was for the people that decided to come. And I was so sure. Like, I was like, there's no way that I'm not getting in. No way. You know, that's all I kept thinking. And,

my agent did a deal with Anheuser-Busch being that it was in St. Louis at the time headquarters. And at the Butte Light Hotel, when the Bud-Light, when Bud used to be, when Anheuser-Bush was the when Butt was the beer, but-light was the beer at NFL, they had a hotel like the bottom floor. I mean, we packed it with two, three-hundred people that's there, you know, and we're watching. and I'm standing

and as they come on and they're getting ready to call the names the first time ever I thought what if they don't call my name I'm standing there like what if they don't call my name? Like we just got all these people here we're at the buttline hotel.

I mean and when I think back I'm like man that's like somebody saying no or running away at the altar. You know? I'm thinking to myself oh my God what if they don't call my name? You start looking tactically, like at all the exits.

Like, where's the easiest way out of here if they don't call my name? Yeah. I try to figure out. Yep. And then, man, like three names in, they said my name. I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, I got in your head too much. Oh, man.

And from there, from there, literally, they, wherever you're at, because you've got to tell them where you're going to be, car pulled up, takes me to the place, take me to the place where they're doing an interview. and on the ride, like your football life is literally planning your head from your league coach, your high school coach, things that people taught you, things, like how many people had been on this journey with you to end up, you know, in this place. Like, hold on, wait.

Like, there's, at the time, like, there's only 20, like, 16, like, 270, like, 275 of these guys. And I'm one of it. Like, are you kidding me? Yeah, man. Like, it starts to dawn on you, regardless of how confident you are, you look at it like, damn. Like, that's, you know, that's pretty damn neat.

It's forever, I mean. Yeah, yeah. And that's it. Like, in reality, that's all we want to do is be remembered. Right. And now to know that now to know, forever generations

can go identify with me as their relative or, you know, like, like that's, and there's a place. Yeah. In Ohio. Man, thank you so much. All good, fellas. Yeah, it's all good, man.

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