Bussin' With The Boys - Matthew Ramsey

Episode Date: April 27, 2020

Recorded: April 22, 2020 Matthew Ramsey, lead singer of the world-famous award-winning country band, Old Dominion, joined The Boys (digitally) to pull back the curtain on his musical roots and what he's been up to during quarantine. Topics include Matthew's unbelievable story of how he got his first publishing deal, how Old Dominion was formed, the band's writing process, why Kenny Chesney is a Patriots fan, and more. Finally, wrapping up on a feel-good moment, Matthew & The Boys talk about how they handle interactions with the homeless and the importance of giving to charities that are making a difference across the country. Want to be featured in an episode? Share your questions, feedback, and whatever else using #ForTheBoys / #DontGiva and TAG US @bussinwtb on all platforms. Have a song submission for Pickin' With The Boys? Send an acoustic original to [e-mail] and we might throw it on our platform. ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/ Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com LISTEN iTunes: http://bit.ly/BWTB_Apple Spotify: http://bit.ly/BWTB_SpotifyFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm a fan. I'm nothing more than a, a critic that doesn't deserve an opinion. What's, are you in Nashville right now? Yeah, yeah. Dude, what's this quarantine thing like for you? It's just absolutely wild. Brutal, I had to cut my own hair.

Why don't you just let it rip? Dude, I was driving me crazy, man. I don't doubt me? I've had long hair before. Yeah, we start without you. Dude, I was doing, I've been growing this out for like a year. It's been about a year like now. Like, now's around the time it's been a year.

And I hate it, but I'm just going to keep it riding, dude. I'm going to go, I'm going to go a mullet for like a month when I cut it. But that's really like, I can't stand long hair. It just gets in your face. It drapes over you. It's annoying. It tickles your face. I had a long time ago.

I had like super long hair and it was terrible and super curly. Now I can't stand it anymore. Well, dude, you're a heart drop. Like every damn song you guys sing is about, you know, people love, you love another girls. I actually have a question about one of your songs. One of your songs, and I should have probably a way to get more into it, but we're doing basic chat until Wilson's down. And you're your songs, break up with him.

Yeah, yeah. You say, I know you're not in love with him, break up with him. Is that him a real person and does that guy know what it was about him? Man, that song is not a real story. It was just something we were doing to, like, make ourselves laugh. We wrote that, like, in the middle of the night, in a van, really driving. It was when we were traveling around the country in a van. And everybody was asleep.

It was probably, like, two in the morning. And we had been kind of jamming on this thing at Soundcheck earlier in the day. And I was listening to it on my phone. and it was like two in the morning I had this idea for like a one-sided phone conversation song and I Trevor was awake in the back bench of the bus or the fan at that point and and it was like 2 a.m.

So I went back there and I was like, hey, I got this idea. And so to keep from waking everybody up, I just started whispering it into my phone. So that kind of like, yeah, that kind of like set the tone for this creepy, like, hey, what's up thing? And then we were just laughing, we were just laughing our asses off in the back of the bay. And that's all that was. And then, man, we've had so many people that would come up to us and say, like, that song made me break up with my boyfriend.

No shit. Oh. Yeah. And couples, mostly we get couples that come to us that say, like, we're together because of that song, because I played it for her. She broke up with the dude, and aptitude with me. So we're we like to focus on the matchmaking element of it rather than the home wrecking element of it. I'll tell you what? When you when you started doing music, was this like what you wanted to do? Was it like I want to be a country singer? Like that was your genre you want to go to growing up or did you kind of fall into it in a certain way? No, I kind of fell into it. I was um, you know, in high school and stuff. I was in like rock bands and grunge bands like with the band.

I was in, wanted to be Pearl Jam, and, you know, just like stuff like that. And then moved to Nashville, really, to be a songwriter. I didn't really want to be an artist. Wasn't really coming down here to, like, try and be famous or everything. I was just trying to come down here and write. That's the loudest bird of the bird. No, I love it, dude. He's perfect out there.

He's just amazing, dude. We just make it work here, bro. This is like, God. But, no, I just came down. here to be a small writer, really. And then it's in the band thing. That's wild. So you're in that show right now. Yeah. We could have just went on the bus, boys. I know. Just on the bus. The foreseeable future, we'll see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to have to do that. We're going to have to get on the bus somehow in the future. Oh, man, it's just parked right now. Yeah, it's fully stocked and parked. Oh, your bus. So, so like all of your, since you, like, you're part of like a squad. You get, you, you're, you're part of like a squad. You're, you're, you're

part of a band, like we've interviewed individual artists and stuff like that. So when you say like you're you moved here to be a songwriter, are you, are you mostly responsible for, for writing all the music for old dominion or is it kind of like a collaboration at the time? It's collaboration because that's what, um, Trevor who's in the band, he moved here for the same reason to be the songwriter and Brad who I knew from a lot of us knew from Virginia. We, when we were a lot of us grew up in Virginia and went to college and stuff in Virginia went to college together. Some of the guys did, and they knew Brad. Anyway, Brad moved here

to be a songwriter. So individually, we all had been working on trying to be songwriters. And we were writing together. We were writing all this music together, but playing in bars and stuff at night. Then we started to have success as songwriters for other people. So we started getting hits for other people, but we were all in a band together. Yeah. And people started going like, what is this band full of dudes that are writing songs for other people. Let's go check them out. And then that's sort of fueled our success. Oh, nice. You guys are all kind of writers. Yeah. Yeah. So we write all together. Sometimes we go in the studio, like the last album, the way we started recording that was we just went into the studio with no songs and just tried to write and record the song in the same

day. And that became a hit for us. So we all get together and write a lot together. Are you guys doing like Zoom stuff right now? Like just Zoom meetings and you guys got to write on Zoom? I can't do it. Like I've tried. Some of the guys are like it's hard for me to like get into it. I'm sure I will at some point. But some of the guys are writing over Zoom.

A lot of people here in Nashville are doing that. Yeah. We got a buddy named Ernest who does a lot of that stuff. He's got like they do like riders rounds all the time. And I'm not, I have zero musical talent at all. I'm not even appreciated. I've got awful. I've never even picked up a guitar.

but like just listening to what people have to go through in Nashville is outrageous. I mean, getting a chance to talk to, I mean, a bunch of people, the Kings of Leon guys, Thomas Red, those types of dudes saying what they had to go through is just, it's fucking crazy, dude. You got to slug it out. Yeah, dude, you're out there playing for pennies at Hockey Talks. Like, hey, I hope that God someone in those crowds willing to give me a little gig. Yeah, I mean, ultimately, man, you just have to do it because you love doing it. and whether it's gravy if it works, but ultimately you just have to do it because you love it. Where'd you grow up at, Matt?

In Virginia, it's this little small town called Buck Cannon, spelled Buchanan, pronounced Buck Cannon. It's about 900 people. And when did you decide to move to Nashville, just after high school? No, I went to college. Actually, went to art school at VCU in Richmond, Virginia. Yeah, I got you now. Yeah, we can hear you. but hey, the boys.

They just suddenly come in. Can you hear me? Yeah, just super, super casual and awkward. Dude. But after college, I decided, yeah. Are you a Redskins fan? Dude, it is so hard to be a Redskins fan. Oh, no question, no question.

I grew up, I grew up being a Redskins fan, and I try to hang on to be a Redskins fan, but they make it tough, dude. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. Who's your team now? What's up? Man, it's funny.

Well, you know, I would this, This was a great year for the Titans. But, you know, it's funny, like, when we tour with Kenny Chesney a bunch, and you end up playing all these football stadiums, and you end up meeting all these people, and it's kind of hard to have a team, you know, like, because you start, like, identifying with all of them. And, like, you're like, I know somebody from that team,

or I know this guy. Like, you start, like, just, that feels bad. I feel bad, like, rooting me. against people except for the Cowboys, I always read against the Cowboys. Yeah, no question. Cowboys can take rocks. Hey, I actually had a question earlier when we were talking about, you know, doing what you can to be heard or like to see if you just get a shot and stuff like that.

What's the best story or what's the farthest you've, like, reached to like be heard or like get in front of somebody? Like what's like the most like, you know, I went to that extent so I could be heard. It's sort of an epic story, but I'll try to keep it short. but there's a songwriters festival in Key West that they have every year. And the whole town of Nashville basically goes down to Key West, and it's this big festival. And I have kids, I have two daughters.

And I was a stay-at-home dad at this point in time. So I was trying to raise my girls, and then I would ride at night and everything. And a big part of any business, obviously, is networking and getting out there. And I just couldn't do it. I couldn't, like, get myself in front of it. of the right people. I was frustrated. I was broke and shit, you know, and I knew that if I could get down to Key West for this festival, that I could spend four days down there, like getting in

everybody's face, right? So I said, if I could find a plane ticket, I'm going down there. So I had a buddy who has a brother who is a pilot for American Airlines, and he gave me a ticket. So I had a free ticket down there. So I went down there. I packed a small bag because I had no place to stay. I don't care. I'll sleep on the beach. I'm going down there. So no place to stay. I go. I land and I'm literally walking down the street pulling my bag. And this buddy of mine is like, hey, I didn't know you're coming. Where are you staying? I was like, I don't know. And he was like, I got an extra bed. You can crash in my room. So I was like, great. So I had a free room, free flight, free room. I bought a box.

of granola bars to eat. Standard. Yeah. People like were buying my beers and stuff. I didn't pay for a single beer or whatever. And you'd have to wait like until about three in the morning at this open mic thing to get your chance to go on stage and play a couple songs. So I was down there

and the house band at the time was Brothers Osborne. They weren't Brothers Osborne at that point, but they were a band called King Billy at that point. King Billy. Yeah. I like that. That's a cool name.

So I waited until about three in the morning and got up on stage and told them, you know, the chords of the song and we played the song. And that performance basically got me a publishing deal off of playing that one song. And so. No way. Yeah, yeah. So then on top of that, Nashville was full. flooding. It was like 10 years ago. So there was a big flood in Nashville. And all the flights back

to Nashville were canceled. So I go meet some people for breakfast. My buddy was like, hey, come meet me for breakfast. So we're sitting at the table. And I'm telling everybody this whole story about how I've come to QS and spent four days and no plan and no money and nothing, you know, had this big epic night. And there's this dude sitting at the end of the table that, that I didn't know. And at the end of the story, he was like, well, hey, man, I've got a private jet. And there's an empty seat and we're heading back to Nashville in the morning if you want to get out of here, bro. Let's go. Bro, you're broke ass. Your broke ass is like, I just got to get down to Key West. Snakes of flight,

snakes free beers. And then you play an open mic. Who came up to you? What was the dude? It was like some guy or girl was just like, hey, I like to. you did there, like, here's my card type of deal? It was, no, it didn't like happen quite like that. It was just because, like, I started getting all these phone goals. Like, what did you do last night? Because everybody's talking about your song and everybody's talking about what you did. So it was like, it just started this buzz.

And, you know, I started getting phone calls and finally got the deal. And then you're writing songs. You're writing songs out there for other girls to break up with their boyfriend. friends and you're wrecking homes and now you're a home record dude congratulations bona fide home record dude i love that that's epic well that's got to be like the biggest high ever like you're like i got this dream i got this goal you're basically stay you're put your thumb up trying to catch a ride to key west and then you get the gig that's got to be a crazy high that like that meth probably couldn't even get you and so you catch a PJ and you've been chasing that thing the whole time oh dude

and you're sitting there smoking a cigar feet up chilling on a P-Jet. Did you know how to play it was? Was it a fat boy? Yeah, we were just drinking, we were drinking tequila and playing Tom Petty songs on guitar on the way. Get the hell out of here, dude. Yeah, that's awesome. Hey, hey, this song would be way cooler if Tom Petty was actually on the play and killing it. Tom Brady and the heartbreakers just out there. Oh, yeah, man, you play music with me too. What's your name? Tom Petty, nice to meet you. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's that. Hey, Matt's just like, yo, where in the fuck am I? Yeah. I was kind of like that.

You guys. Dude, that's wild. So, okay, like, let's stay on the same timeline. We do a horrible job of staying on topic of this podcast. By the way, you're coming on our bus when this is all. This quarantine thing is up. So get ready to go around two with us. I'm thinking, so you land in Nashville.

How mad is your wife you've been gone for four days straight with two kids? That's what I was wondering, too. Like, what she pissed? She got to be hot to get down here. Oh, yeah. It was not good because, like, our house was flooding. Like there was like my dad. And you're hungover.

Oh yeah, I smell like tequila because I've been drinking it on the plane. And my dad had to drive down and like pump out the basement and everything. So it was not the best scene, but it turned out. Oh, dude. Okay. So your wife's pissed, almost divorced back in the game. You did it. You just held up this sheet of paper just in big bowl letters publishing.

How you like them apples? Yeah. How do you like apples? You like that for this? Slaps it on there, dude. Is that Matt Damon? Yeah. Is that Matt Damon?

Yeah. Hell yeah, dude. Fuck, yeah, dude. Thank God it. It's like an idiot right there. And before we go on to the next topic of the pod, which I hope you're thoroughly enjoying. Shout out Matthew Ramsey.

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but we're not, we haven't performed like a band yet. So then we start kind of writing together a little more. And then we do start, like it was pretty shortly after that that we started. We had our first, actually it was my first, I signed that deal. and then once you get a batch of songs, your publisher wants to make demos, right, so that you can pitch them out to other people and the guy that I signed with

had heard us play some a couple times and was like, hey, why don't we just use your band, the guys you're playing with to make the demo? So that was the first time we were actually in a recording studio and we made this thing and we kind of were looking at each other going like, man, this sounds like a band. We sound like a real band.

band here. We should see where this goes. So that was like right after that that we really started to form a band. Yeah, I can assume that like like, I mean, if you went out in your own and you have to go get a band, I feel like the courting process to go get like a guitar player has got to be kind of awkward. Like, well, how does that even? I can't imagine go to some guy, be like, hey, so like, how is a free turkey sandwich and a bus tracks and tequila sound for you to play with me while I make all this money? Right. Exactly. I don't know how those guys do it. man, but you know, I wouldn't do it, but I don't know, a lot of people do, man. I guess, again, it comes back to wanting, you know, really loving it, I guess.

So was everybody pretty on board right away? Yeah, because honestly, man, nobody really thought we were going, you know, it just sort of happened. Nobody was really, we weren't even really, like, making this, like, hard run for it. We were just kind of having fun, you know, like, we were playing in bars. We would drive, like, I had a minivan. we would drive to like Alabama and whatever and play and you know make 40 bucks a piece. Like, you know, we were like, oh yeah, 40 bucks, you know.

And we were just having a good time. And so like it just sort of like over time slowly, more and more people started coming. And then like we started to get like a song on XM radio and it was like getting bigger and bigger. And so it truly was like a natural thing that happened. I mean, every record label, we took meetings with every record label in Nashville. They all turned us down. But we just kept on doing it. Love that, dude.

To final. Yeah. So finally, we literally had a song on the radio and Kenny Chesney invited us to go on a stadium tour before we ever got a record deal. So all of that, then they finally were like, okay, I guess we need to sign these guys. So was the Kenny Chesney, the big breakthrough? That was part of it. Yeah, that was kind of the kicker that. made them go, I guess we need to.

We need to sign these guys that are already on a stadium tour. They're doing all right. Yes, you just put the cart before the horse in that regard, huh? Yeah, we definitely kind of backed into it a little bit. Hey, that's killer, dude. Hey, there's more than one way to skin a cat or whatever the fuck that phrase is. I don't know. Yeah.

I'm thinking, so anyway, is Kenny a football fan? Yeah. Who's his team? Man, you know, he's buddies with all. He's buddies with the crafts, and the Patriots are, that whole area is so awesome to him. What a sellout? Who's not buddies with the craps? You know what I'm saying?

Dude, that's crazy. I feel like it's so more and more common, like, people are like, oh, buddies with the crax. It'd be great to us, too, man. We played a couple Super Bowl parties for them, so. We're buddies with them, too, man. I'll tell you what. We'll be buddies with them if they give them a call. I'll tell you that much.

We'll sell out a second for them, boys. He needs me to go to massage parlor. I'll go, dude. That's crazy. Twist your arm, huh? Matt, I gave you a loaded question because the thing is, is at the facility, our head trainer, his name's Todd Turricelli.

Shout out Todd, dude. He's an absolute stunt. Shout out Todd. He's been boys with Kenny Chesney for a while. So Kenny's in and out of the place all the time, always getting rehab. He's got shoulder stuff, all that, all those kinds of things. And so I thought in my head, man,

this guy's got to be a Titans fan. And I don't even. to think Titans even crossed your mind. He was like, oh, well, he's a friend with the Kraft family. So, yeah, yeah. Gig now. The front runner, they're like, I'm going to sit in my head. It's the same thing, though, man.

It's the same thing as I was saying earlier, though. Like, he's probably got relationships with all of them because, you know, he, like, fills those stadiums up year after year, and he knows all of them. That dude is, though. Like, man, they, it's, it's insane. And he's got such a killer vibe, like his, dude, he, he, him, like, Uncle Cracker, like, even Toby Keith, yeah, definitely Toby Keith, have kind of like crushed like that beach country vibe.

If I need a drink, you know every swinging dick south of the Mason Dixon whenever they get to the beach, their first thing is to crack open their favorite beer, get their Instagram pick with some Toby Q's, some KHS, your own cracker in the background. But you're right, though. Like, I didn't even know the Uncle Cracker song

was about like cheating until like I just got, until I was like late 20s. And I actually like said the lyrics out loud. I was like, oh, I literally just sang the song because I loved it. Right. Because you're a basic white guy and that's, you know what? Exactly. Exactly.

Just basic white dude brainwashed by the country out there. Killing it. That's epic, dude. So you guys play with Kenny, these companies that were just dragging their feet the whole time, are like, all right, I guess we'll sign these slapies now. Yeah. And he guys are crushing it. You guys are heartbreakers now, killing the game.

Doing good, man. Cannot complain. It's pretty incredible, man. you guys have blown up what's you like what is is there a song that you guys made that like man this means a lot to us like this is the one like that maybe you wrote that was a big deal to you or is it all kind of like a like I don't just a a a whole bunch of thoughts built into one from each one of you guys and then all of a sudden it's kind of a hodgepodge and it changes but you know one-man band was the song that sort of like that took us to a different level like

And you never can, like, predict why that is. But for whatever reason, from the moment we played that song, the crowd went insane. And we were like, well, it was a noticeable difference. So then we started talking about, well, maybe we should, you know, make this song a single. And before, like, we even really made it the official single, it was kind of out in the world. And people were singing it louder than they sing some of the songs that are our actual hits. So one of the reason, man, that song really stepped up the game for us and has been incredible for us. So that one's pretty.

The reason, like, first off, one man band is my favorite song by you guys. And I think it's so easy to sit there and relate with it, right? Like, everybody at one point in their life's been solo. Everybody at one point has been the situation where, like, man, I wish I had someone to be with me and, you know, using your guys' artistic vision to talk, like, kind of bring that back and like, hey, I'm on their stuff. stage by myself and I wish I had someone to sing a harmony with me bang bang trash hotel rooms all that it's a very cool way that people are like oh I can get on board with this you know yeah I mean it's it's no secret why you guys have had so much success you have you're extremely talented your lyrics are pretty unbelievable like you guys are crushing them I said before I'm a fan

thank you man I appreciate no words yo um has there ever been has there ever been like a a song, I always like when I ask musicians this, where you feel like you're writing for a reason that's more mainstream because you're like, people are just viving with this kind of vibe more than what you actually wanted to want to write about. Yeah, yeah. I mean, sometimes, you know, like when we made our first album,

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were you on the, I was on your Instagram earlier. Old Dominion's Instagram. You guys just came out with a documentary. Yeah. Can you can you talk about that a little bit? I actually right before we got on here, it's like 10 minutes along. I sat and watched it and that thing that thing's awesome man. That thing's inspiring. I don't want to like add or use my own words. I'd like you to explain what your documentary is about why you wanted to do it. And yeah. I think that. Yeah. Yeah man. It's you know it's started with with the music video idea, which was for our single right now, it's called Some People Do, which is, you know, it's a little bit. It's a little bit. bit of a departure for us as far as like you know we talk about like hooky hit song type of things this one's like a ballad and a kind of a tearjerker and you know it's a heavy song and uh we met this dude jason snidman who is like a hair and makeup guy uh we met him like on one of our first like

official photo shoots and he was the dude that was like helping us get dressed and fixing our hair and everything and we just clicked with him he's just a super cool guy and so So for years, we used him whenever we could. And as we got to know him, he started telling us his story a little bit. And he's an addict and recovery and, you know, how he used, you know, he went into this program. And it taught him how to be of service for people. And he's this extremely talented hairstylist. So he goes out and helps homeless people and gives them like haircuts, cleans them up and talks to him about sobriety.

and he can take him to you know he takes them on trips to rehab and you know he like really works with these people and makes him feel special and so we're thinking about an idea for the video he just popped into my head and thought like wow this would be a cool feature for the video but it's hard to like tell all of that in a three-minute music video so we did a little bit longer version where he allowed him to kind of tell his story and and what he's doing you know, in his community to help the homeless population. And just an amazing, inspiring dude, man. He's, he's an awesome guy and just a great vibe to be around and just makes you want

to be better. So we, like, went down there and helped them out one day and just followed them around. And we literally just went down on Venice Beach and L.A. And set up some tables and brought a bunch of pizzas and had boxes of T-shirts. and he had a whole team of hairstylists and barbers, and we just were there, and people would walk up and go, what are you all doing?

And he'd be like, you want a haircut? And they'd be like, yeah. And then, like, I mean, people started just coming, and he was, they were just, hair was flying everywhere, man. They were just gotten all these people here, and we were just talking to them and giving them food. It was, it was an awesome day, man.

It was really, it was really changed your perspective on, you know, the homeless population in general. Yeah, me personally, like I fall in line with that with that falling in the box of you think they're, they're wanting a dollar for booze or they're wanting to, you know, do bad. Like he mentioned it in the documentary too. In my perspective, obviously shifts like when you watch something like that. Honestly, like, throwing the boy a compliment, I learn more about like the homeless population stuff to like Taylor because Taylor and his wife Taylor and they're very big and in that community and providing things for them. And anytime we pull up to something and I know I'm just said, I know I'm giving you an oops

right now. But anytime we pull up anywhere and somebody comes knocking, like Taylor's always giving cash no matter what. Like, you know, he's got this quote. I'll let Taylor said, I don't want to take all of the stuff. But like those kind of things is when I started to shift my perspective and seeing Taylor. And then I saw that. I'm like, yo, this is, it's just really cool because you you truly just don't know where somebody comes from, what their story is. Like, yes, some might be a certain, come from a certain claw, but you have no idea unless you try to intentionally get to know somebody

or lend a hand, help them out. But that's honestly, like, kudos to both of you. Both of you are the biggest reason my perspective has changed, kind of in that world because I am guilty of being that kind of person that would drive up. Everybody, yeah. Yeah, for sure, for sure. I think I think everybody, to some extent, it has been down that path before because as like human beings, like we're like Willie says it all the time.

Like we survive in advance. We're just trying to get to like the next stage or to help ourselves up. And when you see someone panhandling or doing whatever on the corner, it's like, yeah, of course, like that person could go buy alcohol. But the reality is it's like our job as human beings. It's not to say you can and cannot do what I give you. It's here's my opportunity. I'm going to do my part just to help this individual, regardless of what they do with it, is up to them. But like, you've crossed that bridge into, okay, I put a handout to help this person up.

And it's like, well, the phrase Will is talking about is giving somebody a hand up, not a handout. And there's this guy who works at a charity called Home Street Home. And this guy was homeless, home street home. Yeah, he was homeless for, I think, six years. And I might butcher the entire story, but this guy now has a home, has a whole charity. He's raised, you know, I think, you know, over a few hundred thousand dollars. Wow. And what he goes is he literally takes people in that are homeless and gives them clothes,

gives them food, gives them shelter. He's working on building homes to these people that go in and the city of Nashville and kind of rehabilitate themselves. Because when you ask anybody on the street, like what percentage of people are homeless because of addiction? you would think it's in the 30s, 40s, 40s, and 50%, like those people, it's only 7%. Only 0% of people that are affected are because of addiction, which again is not like something you should ever, you know, it's not our jobs as human beings to judge those people. It never is.

And like, we're all super lucky. Like you said, like, what you do, you got to love it. And like, you got to go and play music and you got to like do the shit. Like you got to sit at the stand with one mic and there's. three drunk guys yelling at you on stage and you're just hoping to get a $5 tip. Like, we got to go through this shit of playing high school ball. You know, you try to go through college and make it and you're working, you know, it's pretty, it's such a crazy difference, but there is that work up and you make it

because you're good, but you also make it because you're lucky as shit. And a lot of people don't have that luck. Like, and I think, you know, you give somebody a dollar like, what's it to you if you have a dollar to get? Like, you know, it's not going to affect you. It's not going to affect me if I give a dollar out. Yeah. And the thing is, man, maybe they do go buy, you know, alcohol or drugs with it.

But it's the moment that you speak to them for a second. That's what we really like, that we really like noticed was how much they appreciated if you just took a second to ask them a question or ask them about their, you know, their, hair or ask them what their name was or, you know, just that interaction, you know, just to have them feel like. a person and not just someone to rush by, you know, go do whatever you will with the money. But, you know, if you give them that interaction, it's, they appreciate it so much. And it just kind of like you were saying, like one guy was like, man, he was kind of telling us

his story. He was like, you know, not everybody's out of here because, you know, they're addicted to something. Like, you know, it's like for me, it came. He was like, my wife had heart trouble. And it was either. pay for her heart surgery or keep a roof over our head. And he's like, we had to do this surgery out.

She died without it. So we did this surgery and we couldn't afford to pay for our house. And he ends up losing his house. I mean, it's just like you said, like some people don't have that luck. And it's like, so it goes a long way when you can just do whatever you can. It doesn't have to be a lot. Yeah, for sure. Did you guys make the documentary on that quarantine all this stuff going on?

I bet, Taylor. No, if this dude, anybody who's listening to this podcast, we are, the Wi-Fi out here, whoever's it is is getting absolutely trash right now.

So thank you for sticking along with us. I think, one thing this quarantine is going to teach us, I think is like, it ain't about just me or just you. It's about, like, it's about all of us. And because we've had to shut down the country

in a lot of ways, and the economy is absolutely getting blasted right now, there's going to be a lot more homeless people out. There's a lot more people out. There's a lot more people that are unemployed because of this whole thing. And maybe you've been a person that's like, you know, why doesn't this bum get a job? And you might be one of those people that are now, like, out there doing it.

And it's not about, it should never be about I'm doing better than X, Y, and Z. Like, you need to do the best that you possibly can. Everything else is whipped cream and gravy. I mean, not in that combination, but you know what I'm saying. Like, it's all, it's all about like you do the best you do the best you can. Yeah, a little gravy, little whipped cream. A little great. A little something, dude.

It's wild, dude. This whole thing's just crazy. And it's this, this quarantine. People are bitching too much. How many times in your life have you sat there and said, man, I wish it would just slow down a little bit. You know, having two kids, I got one more kid on the way. I'm about to have two kids.

And with my one daughter, I'm like, sometimes I'm just like, hey, I need a minute to calm down, to let everything just, and it never happens. And then this quarantine thing, everyone was like, oh, I got to be at home now. I got to do this. And, you know, jobs are suffering, money suffering. I'm very understanding of all that. But it's like, it's an opportunity for a lot of people to work on themselves from like a soul standpoint, from a mental standpoint.

This is the longest I've been home in six years. Yeah. And I bet like in a lot of ways, as long as you take it the right way, you'd be grateful, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was, you know, like you said, like there was a lot of times where I was just like, I need a break, dude, I need to stop. I need, this is going to kill me.

I need a break. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, I didn't mean that much of a break. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt. It's like the first. So you're treating it like snow nights. Oh, yeah, vacation. You're like, yeah, let's stay up.

Let's do shit, man. Yeah. Now it's like, hey, hey, we got to get out there. What's going on? It's wild out here. Dude, this shit is crazy. It's mind-blowing. And people need to take advantage, but people need to take advantage of what they can't control

because people, doing people bitch all the time. People always bitching about something. Yeah. Now, before we get out of the documentary segment, did it take you guys? Did you have all, like the music video and all that? I watched all that stuff. Was it only that one visit and you guys pretty much got it all, everything you needed? Yeah.

So we have this dude, man. His name's Mason Allen. He's the guy that made the video and the documentary. He's our, like, tour. He's like our tour photographer. for it comes around and he just goes on tour he's this young kid and he's extremely talented he's made some videos for us before and and so he went out to l.A. for a couple days before we got there and followed jason around and um you know shot some stuff but most of it was that one we were

just there for that one day most of it was that one day we just you know it was from you know we got there probably like 10 in the morning and we're probably done 10 at night Yeah. Now, and that's on YouTube? Yeah. Yeah, it's on YouTube. YouTube under, what's a documentary? It's, some people can change. Some people do. Some people do. Some people do. That's right.

And that'll get it. Yeah, I got you. So whoever's listening, you want to watch a documentary, go on YouTube. And some people do is what the documentary is called. Dale, do you want to ask him or should I ask him? Go ahead. we need a favor all right

I don't even know I just make me nervous I'm excited matter of fact hey Taylor he could be the first one on the bus to do it what's that

picking with the boys no he ain't doing no taking with the boys Bob what's up he got to tell me he didn't need to pick it with the boys yeah

oh I know I know I mean dude I saw him I saw his Instagram he was a strumming the So basically what we've done is bustle with the boys. We have a segment called Picking with the Boys. And so like Ernest and a few artists, they basically send us a riff like, hey, shout out the boys. Like, thanks for having me on picking with the boys. And since everybody's quarantined right now,

they just like, you see artists doing all the time. They just kind of play and strum on the guitar. And so we created a segment called Picking with the Boys. And I'm thinking, are you thinking what I'm thinking, Matt? Like, I'm thinking the boy is a hey, shout out picking with the boys, baby. And you drop, you drop whatever beat you want to drop. It can be a original it could be something new that you made up but boom we jam it we put on Instagram that's it that's the favor yeah all right I'd do that for you and ultimately we want people to come on the bus to do it so like yeah we wanted to gain traction to where people like hey can we come on the bus to do because it's like a little studio setup

we have on this rusted bus you probably saw it and so I was saying hey maybe you're the first one that comes on the bus and hits it on the bus yeah man once all this way opens up I would love to see that thing there we go there we go thanks killer that thing absolutely killer. You'd crush it on the bus, dude. You'd murder it. How old are your kids? We'll let you get out of here in a second. We know these pods are a little shorter, but how old do you kids now? Yeah, I've got a kid, both of them are getting up there. Mine's 13 and 10. That's wild, dude. You're old. You're old, dude. You're old. You born in 77? Yeah. Hey, I tell you what, I know that beard's got some just for men in it.

It doesn't actually, man. There's a lot of gray. You're a lot. Dude, I don't. I don't, man. My mom even doesn't believe me. But no, there's too much gray in there for it to be just a minute, just a man. Taylor, back up from the camera.

He doesn't need to be in the shot. I'm looking, you know, my eyes are so bad. You got that salt. You have little crumbs of salt, dude. That's crazy. No, it's wild. I mean, I'm so stoked to have another kid. I'm having another girl, too.

So I got two girls now. I'm a big girl by Kobe. I'm like you and I'm like Kobe Oh dude it's the best man It's awesome The girls are the best man So what's next for Old Dominion? Oh shit

You guys had an album Dropping 19 Banger by the way You just got this little Go ahead Yeah hopefully we get back on the road Man you know like we're just like Like I said this is the longest we've ever been home

So it's getting kind of We're getting kind of itchy So we're trying to figure out ways To get our music out there and get some sort of performances out there to people while this is all shut down. And in the meantime, we're just going to be writing. And, you know, it's opened up a lot of space. So I imagine we'll start recording again here pretty soon for the next one.

Yeah, picking with a boy. That's a way to get your music out. Get you guys some traction. I know you guys dying for followers on Instagram. Almost a million. You guys are getting crushed out there. We'll help you out a little bit. We got your back, Bob.

Yes. So have you guys been making some magic while you guys are quarantined? Yeah, we've been working on some stuff. So we haven't really done much together, but everybody's kind of working on their own things. The quarantine album, dude, that's going to be the hot. I know I'm kind of excited about that. I'm kind of excited about like it changing how we make the music

to see how it comes out. Yeah, no doubt, man. A lot more stories, some storytelling music. I love it. Yeah, no doubt. Well, dude, hey, you crush it on the podcast. We really appreciate having you on, man. Yeah, man.

Thank you guys. Appreciate it, man. It's fun. You're a stud. I mean, when this whole thing's over. You got to make him a Titans fan, Taylor. We'll work on it, dude.

I'll tell you what we need to do is once this whole thing's, it's quarantine things over, come on. We'll hit another podcast, get a couple of your boys on there. We'll do a real one because this, this, it's so, it's so awkward doing a Zoom. I'm staring at you and you're like, it's your frozen and then just moving around the crazy, you know what I'm saying?

So it's, it's hard. It's hard to, like, you know, do the whole thing. So we'll get you on here. We'll talk you in to be a Titans fan, man. I mean, you live here. It's time to buy in. I am a Titans fan. I am a Titans fan.

Get you a 77 jersey. A buss him in advance. A buss him with the boy shirt. There you go. Send me that jersey, man. You didn't give a shit about that shirt, well. You don't give a damn about this shirt, bro. He said, yes, send me the jersey, man.

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