Bussin' With The Boys - Maxx Crosby Talks All-Pro Snub, Why He Wants Tom Brady In Las Vegas + Championship Weekend Recap

Episode Date: January 31, 2023

Recorded: January 20th 2023 | On this weeks episode the Boys recap Championship weekend and some of the Twitter drama that happened over the weekend. Is the NFL rigged??? After that we join the Boys in Las Vegas as they are joined by the Boy, Maxx Crosby. Maxx graciously lets us into his house and hang out with his dogs. He dives into what goals he has set for himself long term and what he feels like he needs to do personally to improve for next season. Maxx also explains what it was like having Antonio Brown and Davante Adams as teammates. The Boys then ask Maxx about the Derek Carr situation and how he felt about it + Maxx gives a monologue on how he wasn't an All-Pro that could make you run through a brick wall. There may be more Las Vegas Raiders fans after this episode. Biggest hug, tiniest of kisses. 0:00 Intro 10:00 NFC and AFC Championship Recaps 56:50 Stressful time before getting a contract 58:50 How long does max want to play and he will know when he's done 1:00:00 Maxx’s goals as a player 1:02:30 Players maxx looked up to growing up 1:09:30 How Maxx ended up at Eastern Michigan 1:13:50 What other coaches and teams say about Maxx 1:22:00 Stats don’t always show how well you’re playing 1:28:00 Taylor against Chandler Jones and what makes him so good 1:31:40 What it's like playing under Josh McDaniels 1:36:20 What are the little changes the raiders can make to improve next year 1:42:00 What Maxx can do better to prepare this offseason 1:46:00 Does Maxx feel the need to be more of a vocal leader this year 1:58:00 How do you keep guys focused during the season given you’re in Las Vegas 2:00:00 The Derek Carr situation 2:06:00 Who does Maxx want as his QB next year 2:11:00 Was Maxx the biggest All pro snub in the league 2:18:30 Tier Talk ---- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/ FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ---- SUPPPORT OUR SPONSORS Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. NASCAR: The Clash | 2/5 | 8:00 PM EST Blue Nile: Save up to 50% at https://barstool.link/BlueNile WhistlePig: Buy our Whistlepig Bussin Bourbon Whiskey at https://barstool.link/BWTBWPFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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to the people of Kansas City. Whoa. I don't want to start off a pod like this. It's been a long weekend. I had a nice little family trip. There's a lot of great games going on. The internet was exploding with all bunches of information, but one thing that's been holding true,

like there's the mayor of Cincinnati that fuck shit up. There's the whole city of Cincinnati that fuck shit up. But I feel like it all started with Wilcompton in August. Uh-oh. I don't. It's hard to say. It's like everybody's doing their picks, right? Who's going to win the division?

My hot take of the year was that, and I am getting it crammed on my throat right now. No pause. It was that the Kansas City Chiefs will not make the playoffs. That was my hot take. Now they're in the Super Bowl. The boy, yeah, I know, I know. The boy, I've probably wore the silver and black for a couple years for a couple seasons. And so it was like...

Best uniforms. The Raiders were like on paper set up to like win the Super Bowl. the off season, right? They won the off season, as I'd like to say. The Chargers were looking nasty. Kaleel Mack, you got bossy, you got all these boys. Herbert, he's got another year of development. He's slain, he's got long hair.

Yeah, and even the Broncos, they got Mr. Unlimited. Yeah, that division was like, everybody was calling it like the SEC of the NFL. Like, that was the division, right? Crazy shot. That's a crazy shot. Before, yeah, before the season started, that was the superior division in football. And they, Kansas State lost Tyreek Hill. They traded to how we kill the dolphins.

They seemed like maybe they were going through a little bit of a reboot. And what was they lost to the Bengals last year in the AFC Championship? Oh, was that the, yeah, yeah, yeah, by three points. Yeah. And so that was like my hot take of the year. When you have a hot take, you got to make it spicy. You know what I mean? And that was a spicy, dude.

Mui caliente hot take. And I feel like it gets a little put up there a little bit more because there's a lot of like, the Husker fans, the Kansas City Chiefs are like their pro team. So, you know, people were like saving their receipts. When it got dicey for me is when it's like the minute they won the division, everybody just kept blown up that fucking tweet. Like, hey, take this motherfucker, like grabbing my hips and just thrusting away at me. Thrust it away.

Eating his words. Holt fiction, gag ball in your mouth. Exactly, exactly. And so from that point, I needed them to lose in the playoffs. Yeah. And they haven't. No, they haven't. So I don't understand, like, why I would necessarily need to say an apology.

I was wrong. I think the best thing, you were wrong about the hot take. I was very wrong. I was very wrong about the hot take. And like throughout the year, of course I'm going to lean in to more and more. Like that's fun.

That's the internet for us. And yeah, I mean, it's been crammed on my throat. I was very, very, very, very wrong about the Kansas City Chiefs. Until now.

Right. Now, here's what Kansas City needs to be weary of. I might be taking the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Uh-oh. I think that's what I got to do. Oh. so you're playing a big game of chess right now. I don't know.

You're sacrificing the queen to win the game. I don't see, I don't know that. After last night, like, I was in a haze. Like, man, I'm truly in a slump. I can't win anything out there in the sports book. The last two weeks, I've been non-existent. I haven't been able to give the people value. And people are quick to forget the big winners we've had all year long.

Like, we've won a lot throughout the regular season in the NFL. But after these last two weeks, people are coming at my head. Like, this dude, just talking. nonsense, he bets emotionally, like, this is why you fucking suck and, like, a lot of hateful, yeah, a lot of hateful stuff going on. There's a lot of Roger Goodell-Burner accounts out there just coming after my neck. Yeah. But I'm thinking to myself, it's gotten to the point, bro, that I'm like, how do I fade

myself? You know what I mean? Like, how do I truly fade myself? Because if I try to think, like, okay, I'll go for the Chiefs next week, but am I, in my heart of hearts? Is that what I'm doing? Am I going to say? Or is that another emotional?

personal bet. Right. I'm like, I can't trust myself. That's what kind of funk I'm in right now. Yeah. I don't even know how I can trust myself. I'm like, man, I really, I need to figure out how I fade myself. I don't know.

I've been watching a lot of like Star Wars Yoda videos, like trying to get to the depths, trying to go to the fundamentals, like go to the forest, like, literally try to like get to know myself a little. Yeah, hit the swamp up. Yeah. Get to know myself on the deepest level to know, you know, what is going wrong? You need to go back to hell. You got to go back to hell.

get back up. I know what it's like to suffer. And that's where you're in right now. You're just in a hell. And you just keep suffering through this. I think that big W is coming for you in two weeks. Two weeks time. We need.

We don't need nothing, brother. Yeah, I'm with you emotionally. I'm with you as your friend. Like, I'm here for Will Compton. But when it comes to you pressing tap on the barstle of sports plug, like, buddy, that's your own battles. He said, no, no, no, no. This is not we.

Not we. Very much. But it's like, did you guys back me this weekend on my bets? I did. Oh, Bloss is upset. Jack, that's what I want to know about because Jack's been known to turn his back on me. But Jack, it seems like Jack knows when to turn us back on you because I've seen it happen. I've seen Jack look at you putting your 17 leg parlays in.

Look over at me and he goes, watch this. And then winks, watch this. And hits that. And then he does the exact opposite. And I see you at the end of the day suffering, kind of like we saw Corey Levin. after day one in Vegas. Yeah. And I see Jack willing to buy the drinks that night.

Prosperity. Yes. Falls into his lap. Yeah. I didn't, I haven't been on the best street the last three weeks. So I'm kind of in the same boat, but I didn't take your plays, but still ended up losing. Brother, you went hard this weekend, huh? Yeah.

Justin came in town and took it by surprise. That voice. He said like content. It was a movie out there in the streets, huh? Yeah. Yeah. So I'm still trying to get back to 100%. the voice makes it seem a lot worse than it is.

Nah, brother, you just live in that hell, bro. We're all just in hell right now. Yeah, you couldn't have said it better. We are suffering, but for a greater good. For a greater good. And that's the number one thing to think about. Bo, you're going through shit? Just think, I'm going to suffer through this,

take the most out of it, and I'm going to keep on moving forward. And like Michael Chandler likes to say, we'll see you at the top. And I think your top's coming in 13 days. I tell you what, when you said you need to go back to hell, it's like I couldn't have been more motivating. It's like the only way,

through, the only, what is? The only way to it is through it. That, yes. But that's your line. I just helped you. I just guide the words. I mean, it's, we all pull from lines. Like, that's not even actually my line. No, but what's original, right? It's like what goes back to our conversation? Is there any original thoughts? But you're right. Like, when you said

you got to go back to hell, I was like, yeah. Because seriously, last night, I'm right. You don't go back to it, dude. You've already taken the elevator down. You've hit the bottom floor. You're there. You're standing up. The door's open. And the flames are around you. Some badass looking dude with some horns. I say badass, because I think of Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny

when he's going after him that do look kind of cool. I know it's the devil we're talking about but the shit looks dope. You're there. You're staring him in the eyes. He's laughing in your fucking face. Right.

And I'm trying to figure out the wrong things. I'm not looking directly at and being like I need to go through this. No. I'm trying to figure out how do I figure this out but that's not, the answer is right in front of me. And dude, one thing that you really need to think about

is what a lot of people in the NFL are talking about in the NFL right now is what do they know that we don't? Is this world, world we're living in, this simulation that we're living in. Matrix. Is it real? Is the NFL who is, your words, or you've told me this, this is your, you go and say

the entertainment thing. You say it? You say it, yes, because I don't want to butcher it. Look, who's going. You want to answer that? No. We'll hit him up after. Yeah, we do have to talk to him.

We do need to talk to him. My wife last night was like, how much did you lose this weekend? Oh, tough question. Because I know you lost last weekend too, and I just, I was like, I was like, like taking myself a missed before Ben, I could just go, Sweetheart, ask me after the Super Bowl. He's like, no, seriously. And I'm like, I'm being serious.

We're not talking. We're not talking about this right now. I don't want to go through this right now. She's like, man, it's really like that. I was like, sweetheart, I've lost every fucking one. Every one. Yeah. And it's because I just get two.

I just, the picks, there's nothing I can say there. I was wrong about the picks. But once it comes to parleyes, man, I get too horny for them parleyes. You do love parleses, but you do pick some parlays. I look at it. I don't bet. I don't know how to bet. I really have never placed a bet, but I look at your bets on Twitter.

I'm looking at the numbers. AJ Brown, 49 receiving yards. Does that not happen? You think there's no fucking question. Joe Burrow, one and a half touchdowns. He's going to throw a two in this big game? He's going to slain that motherfucker, dude. Absolutely.

See it. Joe cool, right? He does a spinning thing. God. He does the fucking spinning throw. And you think he's going to do that shit in the game. And I'm looking at. I go, man, comp is really about to set it the fuck off.

Yeah. He was legit. He was almost in the teens when it came to legs in the parlay. But you're hitting a hat, a baker's dozen of them boys. I know. He'd have been a millionaire after that shit. When that thing was reading plus 650, I was like, people are going to be fired up.

It would have been huge. And buddy, the worst thing people can do in slumps is to start getting in their head and maybe I need to take a break. The only thing to beat a slump is to keep swinging through it. Yeah. Keep swinging through that shit, dude. You just keep swinging that back because guess what? dingers are coming.

Yeah. So what? Dude, you went 0 for 4 in a game. It's a, betting is just like baseball. It's a game of failure. You just fail a little less

than everybody else and you're a fucking winner. Now, you just got a little bit of a slump. But your percentages, you're still making the All-Star game. You're still a fucking stud. You're in the Pro Bowl.

You're in the All-Star baseball game. Yeah. You're a stud, bud. And don't let anybody tell you different. But enjoy hell, dude. Enjoy the suffering you're going through right now because it's going to make that pinnacle so much better.

And I can't wait to see it. Now, but we really need to figure out is the NFL rigged. Embrace the suck. Is the NFL rigged? Was Brock Purdy really hurt? Was he really hurt last night? I'm just saying about the things that were going on the NFL.

You're starting to say, is Brock Purdy part of the NFL being rigged? What's not? Is Kansas City that loud where they have to redo a whole entire play? Kansas City is fucking loud. Mitch in the corner. Just hit me with a quick yes with a sharp neck turnaround. I'm sure we did. Can we not look at the film?

of the fucking sky cam and see if the, if the ball hit the wire. Did Tony Romo almost say the N-word on TV? Like, there's a whole lot of shit. It's like that goes into the NFL being rigged. Hey, Tony, you're going to say this exactly. Yeah, no, I don't think, that's a joke.

I don't think Tony did that on purpose. Or on accident. I don't think he was even, that was even a thing. I don't think he did it on accident. I don't think he did it at all. I don't think he did it at all. I don't think he did it at all. What is happening right now?

You're saying you don't think he did it all. I'm backing up because I don't want to, you know. I don't think it was an accident. I like Tony. I think Tony's a stud. I'm just trying to fucking cause a little chaos here. Is the NFL so interested in New Heights podcast and how much they're doing so well

that they need to have both of the Kelsey brothers in the Super Bowl? I kind of like that. Now, if you want to pause on that and just put it there for a second, boys, we got a modern day warrior movie going on right now. We got Jason Kelsey, the fucking bully dog, the athletic, strong,

get right in your face, first round knockout, off its alignment type of individual. And then you got the finesse guy. The guy likes to ground and pound a little bit. He knows jihitsu. Travis Kelsey probably doesn't look like a high school teacher, but if I was going to put them in phrases, I'd be like, okay, this is the high school teacher, and this is, and then Jason Kelsey is probably Tom Hardy and the Marines.

Travis is not Tom Hardy. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying, Jason to me is Tom Hardy. I think Jason's a school teacher. The reason why, his office line mentality, dude, he's a dog right now. Jack, take it easy a little boy. Will knows about the voice. We're trying to get you back to I'm saying Jason Kelsey is Tom Hardy You're saying the opposite Yeah, because he's more the wild card He's more of like, you know

Yeah But if you look at their play Jason Kelsey's obviously a much more physical football player than Travis Kelsey Both extremely talented Travis Kelsey one of the best items Of all time in the NFL If one were to be like the school teacher

And to be about their family And we're gonna win this money You know for like that kind of cause I'm not thinking about that I was thinking about that I was thinking about just strictly NFL in that box gameplay Yeah

You got these two. It centers the bulldog. And you know in two weeks, those two, the Kelsey brothers, who are probably the most notable family in the NFL. They have to be since the Mannings were in town. It was the Mannings. And then it was the Questonbury family. And now it's the Kelsey family.

But boys, don't get it twisted. We're sitting in an octagon right now. We're sitting just outside of a while, about to watch two brothers, go at it, go face to face. And at one point, one brother will have the other brother on the ground saying, I love you, just quit. I love you. Don't make me do this.

And they're going to have to fucking do it. They're going to have to do what needs to be done in this game. And it just adds to the story, the Andy Reed Bowl, right? He was the head coach of the Eagles. Now he's the head coach of the Chiefs. We got shit coming up in this game that fits a massive media narrative that would play into the fact that a Disney movie and play into the fact that the NFL being an entertainment entity

may in fact be rigged. I don't know how you do it. What do you think? Do you think the NFL's rigged? I don't. I don't. All the games I've played in my life being able to play those games in the NFL

I never once thought. Man, they're just at the guess. I do think play calls sway a certain way, right? When I first got in the league, it would sway towards the Colts with Andrew Luck in there. It would sway towards the Patriots.

You kind of did feel that playing for the Titans, especially when you're losing a lot of games. No one gives a shit about the Titans in that situation. Now, the argument to that is, is if you're the Bengals and you're the Chiefs, what does it matter who you see in the Super Bowl there? Why do you need to make sure that the Chiefs make the Super Bowl? Because Cincinnati fans rip hard.

The mayor is out there calling for a paternity test the week before, which massive fuck up by the mayor. Massive. You do that shit today. Like they win that, Cincinnati wins that game. You do it today. He has a cool little binder. He opens it up.

It looks very formal. Is there a paternity test to make sure that Joe Burrow is the father of Patrick Mahomes? You do that. you gave them way too much shit. But both of those fan bases are going to travel. Both of those fan bases are starving for Super Bowls. And I say starving even though fucking the chiefs have been there, what, three of the last four years?

Insanity. And they've won one. But they're just fucking starving. You're a flyover state. You're ripping it. That's all you got, allegedly. It's fucking one of those deals. Cincinnati's never sniffed one.

So why not put Cincinnati in it if you're going to make sure the game is rigged? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think it was. I think it was scripted before this game even happened. You know what I mean? What are you talking about? You're talking about what they were talking about? I don't think it comes down to this week.

Who do we want to win this game? I mean, I personally think, like, look, remember the video where you're, like, pointing at all the refs? You tried to take it from us. You tried to take it from us. Yeah. Now, it sads me to see you drop to your knees for the league. No, I don't do that.

No, I don't do that. We're not going to cross. We're not going to pause right there. Haven't you ever wondered why? Don't do that. Have you ever wondered why? Offenses. We're both sitting up in our chairs.

Haven't you ever wondered why offenses script the first 15? Yeah, because you have a game plan. These are the, these are. NFL, same entertainment entity as registered as the WWE. And I get that. And listen, I will play into big brain thoughts. I'm telling you. I will, I will be a sheep in this situation where I'm like,

the purity of the game still lives in my mind. Devante Smith. He, that was an incomplete pass on fourth down. change like that right there because they went on to score and they just got on the ball, you know, snapped it like it never happened. And then after commercial break they come back. Oh man, this was a, they didn't show any replay, no, none of that type of stuff until after commercial break.

You don't think there's something going on there? I think that is pretty fishy. Block in the back. After the punt for the chiefs, there's a block in the back. A blatant block in the back. A blatant block in the back. It doesn't get called. Now, all I'm going to say is this.

Uh-oh. after watching that Netflix, what is it, that special of that NBA referee, you know what I'm talking about, that NBA referee that was like, he's like, if there's a game, he's like, I can control it if it's like within three to five points. Who's to say the human element that's out there? Like, there could be referees in the system that are like that. She was Joe Jackson. I think it's very fun to play into the NFL as a real mentality.

You can just continue to just make up stuff. What about why the ball is placed here? Why is it placed there? I do think there's like, you know, I don't ultimately think the game's rigged. But it does suck how often the referees are controlling some of these games. Yeah. Because, you know, some of those outcomes don't look that way. You know what I mean?

It's like if they get that Devante, that Devante Smith catch, right? Now, they did a tremendous job, getting on the ball tempoing. Let's get this snap off. Devante knew right when he got up. He starts doing that hand gesture. Let's get on the fucking ball before anyone even thinks this isn't a bad catch. Because anybody was worried about, he won't. and snagged it and kept his feet in bounce. He was nowhere close to being out of balance.

But that's ultimately what people were looking at. They didn't see the roll over and everything else. Right. He did a great head job, heads up play the entire offense, getting on the ball snapping it. But if they are able to review that play, that was on, that was on fourth and three. Fourth and four. Yeah, yeah. Fourth and short to where it's like, boom, that's the Niners football. Yeah. And then maybe Purdy doesn't get hurt. You know, I want, I'm curious on the MRI as I come back with Purdy. because if you're out of the game, you're in the, I was almost saying national championship game, and then you ultimately come back in, you're kind of warming up on the sideline. He probably tore his elbow ligament, UCL.

UCLA. Yeah, UCL. He probably tore that, maybe a Tommy John or something like that. But it's like, man, you got to figure, you got to find a way. What I got upset about is the way the Niners didn't continue to try and win the game. Blossom looking at you because you're a massive Niners. fan. But the fact that you just continue to run the ball and ultimately give up, were you able to catch? I know you're flying back. I was at the airport. I was flying back.

I was in Salt Lake City. Yeah, I was too busy getting those Legos. Yeah. And I know I'm starting to talk about the game now, but getting back to the NFL being rigged. I don't necessarily think it's rigged. I just, I, it sucks that the referees control some of these outcomes way more than I feel like they should be. And I know it's not fair to say, but there needs to be a level of like when the game's on the line, these type of situations now when Patrick Mahomes gets knocked out by 58 that late, that is a flag that should have been called.

That's just what the fuck it is. I'm dude. Young cat, too. Young cat, had a great game too. It was low-key balling. He was doing really well. But you got to kind of, I think at a certain point in the game,

you got to let them play. Let it get a little more physical. Let it get a little more chippy. If there's a little more hand fighting out in the outside, let that happen, a couple tugs here and there. Like, don't influence the game so much towards like third and 14,

first down. now you're third in 23. Like that is just tough because it's like you're now like if it's a blatant over the top getting knocked out after three feet of in the gun you've got to call that. But let's get a little loose with the rules

when these boys are a massive crunch time in a massive game like this. It's week six. You want to call a petty hold here and there? Go ahead. Do your thing. That's the way the game is. Those are the rules. But you're in the AFC NFC championship, dude.

It's like you're this fucking close to the Super Bowl, like let the boys kind of just figure it out between themselves. Yeah. Like, there's a big fight at the school. And the principal goes to run in and one of the teachers goes, no, let them figure it out. Like, that's what we need. That's what we need for the refs

to do a little bit. But here, what about the flip side now? What if that hit happens out of bounds and you're a Chief fan thinking we'd be in field grunge and we end up winning that game if they were to not call that. You know what I'm saying? That's where it goes to the grave of what I'm saying is if it's super blatant like that was. 58 hit that, that was

for lack of a better word, an extremely idiotic play by number 58 for Cincinnati. Now I know he's probably waking up this morning. There's probably... Lissing with the boys. He's probably got

some real rough DMs from some Cincinnati fans. And you know he's his own worst critic in that. Like, he... Absolutely. There's a beautiful clip of B.J. Hill

sitting there with the young individual. I wish I could remember his name. If we could look that up... What's his name? A sigh? Okay, his name's a sigh. B.J. He's in his eyes.

And, yeah. BJ's like, let's ask a different question. He's answered that question. Let's ask a different question. The man made a mistake. It's not the reason why you guys won or lost the games. You saw Butt Kiss or whatever the fuck his last name is. Bucker?

Who's the kicker? Bucker? You saw him hit that thing through the uprights, no problem. If you would have attacked on 10 more yards, 15 more yards, he's still smacking that shit to the upright. I don't know if he is, bro. He didn't hit the middle of the neck. He didn't put it right over?

No, it went over, bro. It went over. Yeah. Bro. He didn't put it. He almost missed it. A kicker, he just pulling out A kicker is just putting out

different clubs, bro. Instead of taking a three wood out, he took the pitching wedge out and just lop that thing in there. Five yard compared to a 45 yard as a big, you know, it's... At home, big game. He's a phenomenal kicker.

I say he's making that kick. It's going to O.T. Or it goes to O.T. Now, but there's a lot of things that could have happened in that game that go the other way. Well, if Petrieu Mahomes doesn't fucking just have an absolute

James Winston against Oregon in the national championship game where he just flops that ball, that ball just flops ass in the air. What if that doesn't have? happen. And then chiefs are winning anyway, you know? It's just a whole bunch of things that could have happened in this game. It's not the kid's fault because of one play. It's idiotic, it's stupid. Objectively talking about that play. It's like, yeah, it's you can't. It's one, it's one play,

right? There's 60 plus plays on both sides of the ball in every single game, including special teams, you know? This is fucking is what it is. Chiefs will be tough, though, man. Do you think, I think you take the Eagles without question unless their receivers can come back. you got juju smith schuster with a knee you got uh who was um number 17 he had a little pelvis deal right miko hardman has the pelvis okay so we got we got ankles knees and hips right we got ankles knees and toes we got we got all the fucking deals patch from holmes giving him two weeks the ankle he looked just fine on that motherfucker dude he was out there slinging the ball he is the youngest goat he that is what it is dude you saw his playoffs in a championship his touchdowns in championship games.

He's got 14. Tom Brady's what, 20 or 21? He's already second on the list. He's already past Joe Montana who's had what, who had seven games I believe? He's already young league go to, dude. And we use that phrase a lot. But he really is.

But if you don't get, yeah, he is the MVP of the league. You don't get, which we need to go back to that a little bit because I think he's getting some Michael Jordan-esque type stuff when it comes to the MVP. But he doesn't get those receivers back. Did they are having a bit of a struggle of time? The Eagles, top to bottom, arguably are the most well-made team in the NFL aside from the 49ers. Those are the two best, like, as far as like position by position, depth, strength, the best team in the NFL.

The Eagles should win the Super Bowl. They should win the Super Bowl. Now, I think we've all been put in a situation where Patrick Mahomes is turning to Tom Brady. You don't doubt Tom, ever. Father time, the whole thing, can he win it again? he's going to make a big run. What if he can't do this or that? He's getting too old.

Oh, he's got an ankle injury. These types of things. You can sit there and look at it, but you never doubt Tom Brady. And that Patrick Mahomes is now in that upper echelon. Bro, he's so fucking good. He's so elite. He's so smart. He's so good with the ball.

He dice his motherfuckers up playing backyard football. He does some crazy shit spinning no look passes. You cannot count him out. On paper, the Philadelphia Eagles should win the Super Bowl. by probably 10 or more points. Yikes, bro. I don't know about that. On paper, bro.

She just came out of the tougher conference to argue. That's what you can argue. The AFC top to bottom is the tougher conference. I mean, the NFC, like... Yeah, you have a handful of teams of the NFC, but the Eagles had to go through all that. I'm saying from a personnel standpoint. They have better wide receivers.

They have a better offensive line. They have probably an equal D line. Top to bottom is a better team. And I know you're playing. Look at you're wearing the jersey. I mean, I got to represent. You got to represent. And I respect it.

I'm looking at everything just on paper right now. Well, the, did you see the spread and how it, how it, we were. How it shifted? Yeah, because it was the Bengals minus one and a half and then it ended up going chiefs like minus two or three. The line opened up with the chiefs like minus one and a half, two and a half. And it's now flipped. So the Eagles. What you're about the Super Bowl?

Now the Eagles are now favorite. I mean, like the Eagles top to bottom, I think are definitely. a better team. Definitely a better team. But I mean like Andy Reid going against his old team like you said you can't count out Pat Mahomes. There's going to be a big rest

couple weeks for the first. I know. You gotta hope those MRIs come back today that they're getting right now in Kansas City. Those things come back negative. They look good. Hey, it's a little, hey,

it's not a high ankle sprain, it's a low ankle sprain, we're glad you took it off. Let's get ready to play the Super Bowl. Hey, your pelvis, it is a bit of a deal. Maybe we should look at the off season, but you can play type thing. And the knee

a juju. That was a weird little that was a weird little deal. I thought he blew his shit out when it happened. Everybody that is able to play, whether it's at 70%, 60% every player is going to find a way to play. Find a way to play. Lane Johnson, playing on a torn fucking groin.

And he was doing very well against Nick Bosa. Now boss, I've seen it. People have said it before we started this podcast. People are talking about Lane Johnson being a false starting. I will literally tell you from experience. Every single game I have played in the NFL, there was always a tweet of

why is Terrell-O-1 always fall starting. He is timing up the snap incredibly well. Yeah, he's moving while the ball's probably being clinched by Jason Kelsey's hand. Buddy, that is an outstanding elite move by a tackle to get out of a stance against elite pass rusher. That's going to fly every single time. If you're not early or late, that's how it works in the line. Having a snap count, a jump on the snap count in the NFL is so critically important against elite pass rushers Lane Johnson did nothing wrong there

nothing wrong and you can bitch you complain and moan the whole time listen that is how the game is played you gotta know the rules and use the rules to your advantage Lane Johnson is doing that and he's doing it extremely well

he's a stud I want to say somebody who's even out there breaking down that rule like there is some there is some wiggle room in that to where it's like proving what he's doing is not actually illegal But no, he's a stud, man. I mean, playing on that torn groin, torn off the bone,

like that's fucking insane. His shit's black and blue right now, dog. With the Super Bowl coming up and you got two weeks of rest, like every player's going to fucking do whatever it takes. Whatever it takes. Playing the fucking Super Bowl? Bro, 2019, we're this close. Yeah.

This fucking close. That's what I'm curious was going to come back with Purdy, just because it's like, man, what, I wonder what happened. Man, and you got to think, too, like, if you don't want somebody to be injured, but if I'm Brock Purdy, I'm like, please, God, something be torn. Yeah.

To give the benefit of a doubt, I'm going to assume he probably tore his UCLA, like, ruptures his U.S. Which is a Tommy John's? Yeah. I know a couple pitchers that got Tommy John surgery, who literally got Tommy John surgery, and then came back and pitched faster. It's one of those deals where it's like,

it's almost better to tear it. I think it's like a six-week rehab or something like that. No, it's much longer than that. Really? Yeah, the UCL is like the ACL of the elbow. Maybe I saw the wrong tweet. Yeah. It's not a UCL.

If it's not a UCL, it'll be six weeks. But if it is, it could be anywhere from 10 months to almost two years. But to go back, like I said, I didn't see the game. I saw Will's tweets. And it does seem like if you're just running the ball and that type of situation being down by that much, just toss some sloppy out there. Blas, how'd you feel as like a Niners fan?

Because seriously, like, the fact that they're, they ultimately, it's almost like everyone knew that they were at a disadvantage. It's like, hey, the deck is stacked against you. Everybody kind of knows that. You lose your four-string quarterback to a concussion. He's got to go back and get checked out. He's out of the game. Brock Purdy comes back in.

You almost think, can you do underneath throws? At least fucking try. Short to intermediate. All the double reverse stuff that was going on, man. It's like, what are you guys trying to do? It's the top of the fourth quarter and you're just running the ball and time is running out. Like, at least try to throw the football. Like, at least try to die in honorable death.

Knowing your, trust me, everyone in the media is going to ultimately talk about how they were, it sucked. They went through four quarterbacks. There's no winning that game when you're down that much. But at least fucking make an attempt to get back in the game. Yeah. By letting. Throw Kiss to the Gaffrey out there, dude.

Right. CMC. He threw that one time. I let it fucking spin. He threw, you know, nobody was around. But Kyle Juice, anybody. Like, who wants to try to throw the football out there? He's fucking can do everything, it seems like.

Right. Like, George Kittle. Let him rip that motherfucker around a little bit. At least try. Everyone knows, like, it's almost like your, what it seems like objectively. Like you're like the kid who's pouting and you're like, well, I already know I'm going to lose this game.

Like let me continue to just shove the face and the pillow of the fact that we are going to lose this game. Right. And it's like, yeah. I'm going to prove like this is already. I'll take my ball and go home type of five. Yeah, exactly. Like, okay, you guys want me to keep playing. I'll still keep playing. And then they're like, come on man. Yeah, that is exactly what it is. We all know that fucking kid too. It's like, bro, don't ruin that. You lost. Like, get over it.

Yeah, at least make an ever, bro. That's what I was talking about. And I wonder if that plays in a, uh, Kyle Shanhan is an offensive genius. He's a fucking stud the way he gets it done. But when you're an office genius, you'll look, but you think you can become invincible. Running double reverses and stuff.

I didn't see the plays, but maybe they were trying to be a little too pretty at the end there. Yeah, I mean, ultimately it's like, okay, we're going to have to run the rock, which, again, you knew you had to lean on the run game more, but fuck, you know, the Eagles are just over there, like, let's just stack the box

until they show that they're even going to throw the ball. Like, let's fucking engage eight in the Madden playbook. Like, send everybody. Until they show that they show that they, they're just going to try to throw the football. You just can't beat that. But hats off to the Eagles, though. They're a fucking tough team, man.

They started the year hot. What was the 8-0? And we're sitting on the bus talking about how they were, like, riding the bikes after games, getting ready for a Thursday game. Like, you could just tell their juice and their vibe and their energy in that locker room was top-notch. Jalen Hurts giving those post-game talks to the whole team. And you just see everybody locked into it. Locked the fucking early, too, which is crazy.

I said you knew a team, like, this team is going to be fucking tough to deal with. He gets hurt late in the year. They actually battles some. diversity dropping, I think they were 0 and 2 without them, right? Going into the playoffs and it's kind of like, you know, are the Eagles going to be good? Are they going to be this? Are they going to have a low getting the buy week and then lose the

first round, the divisional round? And they've shown playing the Niners and I know that the Niners, I like didn't have their quarterback, but also to still show up and fucking put an ass with it on that team, they're still a good football team. The Niners are. It's not like you got some amateurs out there playing football. Right. The Eagles are fucking tough, man. They've been doing it all year. They've been

doing it all year. How about Kavon Tibbet to tweeting out, bro, the way they look, we're better than the Niners. And then Joe Staley coming in with an absolute 15 second K.O. And if they hit Kvon, you probably watch. Stop with

the fucking, who are you comments. It's funny the first time, dude, but let's find some legitimate chirps to put on somebody. You don't know who Joe Staley is? I don't believe that for a second. But what I would do, if I don't know the individuals, I would Google the fuck out of them. Find that wiki. Find that one little space,

Maybe they had like a indecent exposure or some type of shit that happened when they were younger. No, no, no, I don't know. I was going to say, I'm just saying. They got some little shit that, you know, happened back in the day. Like, Joe got his eye like fucking broken, like his orbital bone. Yeah. It was like broke. And he had this dope-ass, like, blacked out visor when he was playing like his last couple of years.

But you can fucking say, hey, you can't see shit because your eye. Something. Like, let's not do the who the fuck are you thing anymore. Who are you, bro? That's moved on. That's, like, if you're, bro. Yeah, if you're truly trying. to like say you're trying to do that.

That's like, why wouldn't you just reply with the who are you, bro? When you quote tweet and then you're like thinking you're getting him back. Yeah. And then everyone again continues to body bag. And Joe even comes back with another body bag, dude. It's like the little gift. He's dead. He's dead.

Like you got a butt of Joe. You got his ass. Hold on. You lost that one. Yeah. And he brought up the four sacks. Oh. And then Kayvon comes back and goes, I think he just sub-tweeted right out into the abyss.

But it was like I really didn't know who he was or something like that. laugh out loud or something. It's like, okay, you're not taking the loss. He's doubling down on that, dude. You really doubled down on it like a champ and move on. You made an attempt to try to say, who are you, bro. You realized it did not work out the way you wanted it to. You had to default to the, I really didn't know who he was. It's like, okay, if you're truly playing that game, then you would have Googled or something in the beginning.

Yeah, you need to Google, you need to do a little bit of homework. And it's not like someone's talking to you where he says some shit to you and you have the thing on your feet and go back, bro, you have the power of the internet. You can literally get any information you want. You can literally look up as family members' names and use those. There's a fucking low-blow shirt, but you can at least use that instead of, bro, who are you? You can have a little fun.

Have a little fun, dude, that's what it is. Kaye-on, Forcax is in great, bud, but it was a rookie year. It seems like you had a lot of good splash plays. Hopefully you don't run into a sophomore slump like a lot of players do their second year. Let's not drink the Kool-Aid just yet. Let's keep ripping.

Let's have a good off-season and let's come back when you make a Pro Bowl next year and then reignite this flame against Joe. Because I'm going to let you in a little secret, buddy. If it's not for Joe Thomas, Joe Staley's the first ballot hall, Famer, right? Joe Staley is a fucking stud and will be a Hall of Famer someday. He's a staple and already an electrifying franchise.

He's winning the battle of who's who in the zoo type of vibes. Let's get back in the lab. Let's fucking grind it out. Let's put a good solid ear of tape on there. Get yourself one of them Pro Bowls. Head over to Las Vegas and play some tic-tac-toe with the boys. Maybe a couple of dodgeball games. We're wearing the cool jerseys, having a good time wearing some glasses.

And then once you do that, then we can start chirping Joe again. But Joe Staley, I'll give him 1-0-0 on that fight right there, dude. Who are you, bro, with the dot, dot, dot, too. Now, I will say, I like how Tibido plays the little villain because he was the one who did the Snow Angels next to him. Kirk. Nick Foles, right? Oh, was it Foles?

Yeah, next to Foles. And then went over the, did the night and night. I liked me a little villain play similar like Eli Apple. It's like you're just out there fucking swinging. You got to be the most hit guy in the NFL. But you do got it. You need to be a little bit more correct other than the Who Are You, Bro. That was kind of, that was weak.

This is constructive criticism, buddy. we're not coming at you, we're just trying to help you. Another version of Eli Apple. Yeah. Another version of Eli. Yeah, yeah. For real. I don't understand why everybody hates him so much.

I need to, people need to let us know. Like, talk shit. And for him not to be like an elite player, that's the angle people try to come in. But it's like you need those people and those stories. You got to have the villains, dude. You got to have the villains. You got to have the villains. You know what I mean?

Yeah. And I agree with you. It's like all the noise Cincinnati was talking the week leading up. And not even the Bengals themselves. The city, the way that the city was talking about the Bengals. even when I made I put I was like I think the Bengals are going to win I was like fuck this is not going to turn out well because

you know the chiefs just like Travis Kelsey at the end kept those fucking receipts you know those boys like see you guys at Burrowhead Kelsey afterwards know your role and shut your mouth your brony just fucking ready to go that's that's elite that's that you play the game yeah we're 40 minutes into this thing let's do a quick addery

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and a race break performance from Wiz Khalifa, dude. Tune into the Clash February 5th at 8 p.m. Eastern. I got confused her for the time for a second. I was like, man, it's eight now. At Wiz Khalifa's fire, dude. We got to get him on the pod. He would be big time. In high school, so are we here, Joe.

So we smoke weed. That was a hinder back in high school, dude. We don't care who sees. Did you see Joey Bose out there? That's a tough. That's another, I'm glad you brought that up next because that's another tough L. That's a very tough L.

You know when you got to pull out the I'm fucking rich bitch card? Like you lost. Like, you really, the fact that's like, man, you really got triggered like that. I know. Bro, you're, Joey, you're so good at football. Yeah. You're so good at football.

And you are probably, 1A1B with the Kelsey brothers as far as like... The Bosa brothers and the Kelsey brothers? Yeah, they're like the family, the NFL family that's going on in the NFL's. So, buddy, like some little bitch-ass Philly fan who literally scrounged up just enough change to sit in the nosebleeds is coming up to you chirping you. He actually said he could afford it.

You said he could afford it. You're doing the churping out of the Eagles fan. But I'm saying... You better respect the good Philly Eagles troll. No, the Philadelphia fans fucking ripped, dude. I am saying, if your mindset is, I'm going to hit this dude with I'm rich. That's obviously where his mindset is like,

this dude barely got enough money to get these tickets. If that's the mindset, then just live with that knowing, like, listen, this is a fan of a game that you play coming up to you trying to get something out of you. Just let that shit ride. Maybe dab the kid up and say, hey, good luck today. Pussy?

And like walk away. Hit it with the pussy, dude. You hit it with the pussy real quick, dude. Everything gets a whole lot better. Because once you say, dude, yeah, I can do this and afford it because I'm rich. And also... No, what he's saying right here,

he goes, are you filming this for your little butt buddies? Snapchat for your butt buddies on Snapchat. Like that's funny. I was going to say, that one you kind of give that first round. You're kind of like, oh, that's funny. But then when he goes over the house, Joey, you got that. Look at that. You fucking loser?

Dude, I love the Boser brothers. And his dad in the back, too, is such a legend, dude. He was at, he was in Miami for Rough and Rowdy. Yeah. When we signed with Barstool. Like the first weekend. Like, just chilling by himself. now he's walking back in.

The battle's over. And now he comes back. When you come back, dude, it's fucking tough. That monster finger, too. Jesus Christ. Yeah, dude's got some fucking paws on him. Yeah, guys got some serious myths. Joey, he should have sniffed that show out from the get-go.

Yeah. And especially he's walking, that's what, at least 20, 25 feet away. Joey, what do you? Wait, what he's saying? When do you guys play today? You guys aren't playing today? Like, Joey's being a fantastic brother, dude. He's wearing another uniform from a different.

team to support his brother. I got the whole family around. His dad was the first round pick in the NFL. Dad, why don't you go and grab the collar real quick and say, hey, let it be. You know? Yeah. Just let that thing ride for a little bit.

Or like when you're walking in there, you just turn around like, hey, what was that? Yo. That really did it? Trill really got you fired up. Like, you're in Philly. Like, you should be embracing. Bro, you should know.

Philly goes fucking hard. I think the fans were egg. They were egg and other fans from the, from the Niners. Right. And people probably think it's classless. Dude, I love that shit. You want to be.

be a part of a fan base that is so fucking ruthless. Low-key, other fans are scared to go there. Ohio State, Mitch. Ohio state's a fan base just like that. Allegedly, if you have a Michigan license plate in the third weekend in November on Saturdays, your car is getting flipped over. You're getting that shit spray painted.

That shit's getting ate. These are all just war stories I've heard from the past. But that is the kind of fan base you want to be around and be a part of. That's huge. Yeah, there's a part of me that wants Philly to win just to see the city burn. Yeah.

Celebration. You go fucking crazy. Yeah. It'll be like the end of it. scene of the Joker, dude. There's just cars going, people are hitting, they're just going crazy, masks are on, going fucking wild.

Did you see streets last night in Philly? No. No. Like a thing they say is like grease the poles, so like people don't climb them. People were already like on top of the, like the poles. They were on top of the bus stop things. Like there's little like where you sit and wait for the bus. They were breaking them.

Like they were acting like they won the Super Bowl already and that they have it like they just got to it. I know. I was hoping for a little bit of a mama mentality from one of the teams, but they're all so excited. I was hoping one guy like Pat Mahomes would be so job finished. Don't think so. Job's not done yet.

That's how Jalen and Devante Smith are. Are they like that? Nah, because they... Yeah, yeah. Dude, hey, Jalen's story? Like, I'm a fan of Jalen, bro. I'm a fan of Jalen. The way the whole, everything went down at Alabama.

Phenomenal Oklahoma quarterback. That's Oklahoma. That's for Oklahoma to claim. I don't like how Alabama tries to claim them. But, and then... You quit on him, Alabama? Go through, yeah, go through the adversity. On national TV.

on the biggest stage in college football. Yeah, Rich Eisen had a great appreciation thread for Jalen Hertz. But man, his story, the way he kind of went through that adversity, going to Oklahoma, everything else, getting into the league. When they had a top, when did Wins get drafted? Top three, top five? Yeah, top, yeah, okay. Was it top 10?

I thought it was like higher than that. Anyways, he comes to an organization that they still had that Wince mentality coming out of it because Wince was coming off that injury. hey give him another year you had the COVID year yada yada yada yada and see he was number two overall but yeah you have you coming into an organization where you're not actually seen as the man yet

and you had a lot of people still right for wince in that moment but to take over the way he has bro to take a man like you can tell he is a true fucking leader yeah and like he's I'm a huge fan I'm a massive fan of fucking Jalen Hertz man shout out the boy come on the boy dude come in the pockets come hang out with us dude yeah but no

We'll be in Arizona next week. Yeah. They're going to be tough, bro. I mean, Jalen wheels and deals, and he's got pieces around them, and they are just fucking... Elite pieces. And you were saying it earlier. AJ and Devante only combined for, what, 60-something...

Yeah. ...receiving yards? I mean, they were running it fucking down their throat over and over. What I was taken back by was every time they got in a 4-by-1 formation, whether it's a bunch near gun, you got trips to your gun, all of it. They're literally just running the RPO. They're just running the ball. And they were getting gas, bro.

And I'll say this, the trenches that Philly has, they fucking move the line of scrimmage. Big time. They move the line of scrimmage. Similar like how you guys were in like 19 to where Derek was getting that two-yard head start going into it. Yeah. But they're like moving the line of scrimmage, bro. It was, it was wild. That's an elite offensive one.

And they just kept running the same shit. There's one series that the Eagles just got on the ball and flipped the card. they went, you know, they just, they literally just flipped the formation of the other side and ran the same play and fucking go down and score. That's wild. I think that's going to be a big thing in the Super Bowl too.

Because Kansas City's offensive line, bro. Both Bengals and Kansas City are just tough O lines right now. Bengals. Then the Bengals? I don't know, dude. I know on paper before the year started, people were high on the Bengals because that's what,

everybody was like, this is, this is the area we need to fix going in the next year. But they had a bunch of starters out as well. for Joey B. They had three starters out for the last two games. And this squad they put together for the divisional game against the Buffalo Bills was running all over them with dudes that were backups.

And they go to the AFC championship game, obviously Chris Jones, which another incredible story, dude, this dude literally tells people he feels like he's the reason why they lost AFC championship last year. There was two sacks that got away from him at the end of the game that could have sealed that entire win. And then a true, like storybook fashion, he gets the sack

on that third down. After they made like a third and 17 a crazy fucking third down conversion to go in to what you think was going to be a game winning field go for the Bengals. It's crazy. But yeah, you got to, especially with Mahomes on that ankle,

like they can rush the passer over there in Philly. They can rush that passer. You know Mahomes was fucking, and they were saying he was putting four to five hours in on that ankle all week long. Like, man, tip of the cap to the boy. Yeah, legend.

Even though he was out there limping at times too, but bro, battling back on a high-en-ckels. That one, he, like, rolled out to the left and then threw it and then landed right on his back foot. And he hopsed like three times wincing in pain and then fucking gets his funny little jog going. He's got a funny-ass little jog. He's got a funny little jog going.

And then that last play to get that little first time ultimately when the penalty happened, boys are scooting for it, like, that's fucking, that's awesome. That's cool. That's like that warrior shit you see in movies. Like fighting for every yard, doing everything you can to will those boys to the Super Bowl. And they're fucking going, man.

As fans of football, not the whole thing you have in Kansas City. Just in general, the game we're about to watch in 13 days' time is going to be incredible. It's going to be worth every single dollar to go to that game, to watch it, to get together with the squad, have the barbecues, the chips and dip, everything, sit there and watch elite football being played. Two elite teams going at it. And all the different stories. behind the Super Bowl with Andy Reid, the Kelsey Brothers, everything, man. And they're talking more like, you know, the Philly way, like the organization as a whole,

taking the chance on building through the draft with Jalen Hertz. You know what I mean, versus trading, going out there and making a big splash. You take a couple lumps or a year's worth of lumps. I forget how many, how many seasons they have where they weren't what they are now. But now they're back in the fucking Super Bowl? Because there's a stat too in the last, I think, what is it? last 20 years or all the teams at how many times they've went to the conference championship or the Super Bowl it's like the Patriots and the Eagles are up there they're like

the standard on how to build an organization I want to win the Patriots will be back you don't think they'll be back he says I hope not Mitch goes I hope no man they need that Bill Belichick don't Brady who's a better coach Bill Belichick or Andy Reid that's that's that's the argument we're getting into especially Philly or Kansas City wins this Super Bowl. Yeah. I think it depends. I mean, how many championship has Andy Reid won?

Is it? Yeah. I think that's, it's kind of hard to debate, right? Yeah, it is hard to bet. You're right. I thought he had more than that. Yeah, it's like maybe, you know,

if Mahomes wins this one, like, obviously he'll be talked about with Tom Brady and people will, like, argue that to the death because, you know, Tom's got all those Super Bowls. It's like you can't yet until he gets like, that's seven piece, right? You say five, right?

Say Mahomes gets five. What would this be for Mahomes, too? That's what I'm saying. It's almost like, who's better Tom Brady or Mahomes? Like, well, fuck right now, like, recency bias. People like high on like Mahomes, Andy Reid. You forget what Tom's done for the game. Yeah, you kind of forget what Belichick and Tom were doing to the league for like a decade.

Right? Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Two decades. 20 years. Yeah. Just literally the Super Bowl went through Foxborough.

Right. That's fucking crazy. That was just the new. You're right. That is a too early comment that I made there. Who's better Andy Reader or Bill Belichick? Bill Belichick is the go. Yeah, he's, yeah, because remember like earlier in the year, too, I was like,

when did they rename the trophy? Renamed the trophy. Yeah, I was just thinking about that. One did they rename the trophy. But you have a down year. People forget, man. You have a down week or two gambling on sports. But people forget how successful you were throughout the season.

See? And that brings us back to hell, boys. We're in hell right now. Should we hit the shoutouts? We should hit either the shoutouts or the episode we have today. Max Crosby. Fucking stud. We had the opportunity in Las Vegas, Nevada, to go to his beautiful home.

He was very excited to show us his home. It's a beautiful home. Not only is the home beautiful, but the vehicle is sitting outside of that home. He was equally incredible. Had food waiting for the boys, water, pizza, wing stop, had a nice little setup. His dog's got three dogs. One dog is a horse. The dog's fucking massive.

Massive. Massive. Big teddy bear, though. Big teddy bear. But he looks at you and you literally put your fist up to it like near him. Like to go pet him. He could just swallow my hand whole right now. Yeah.

Like, thank God. It's not an aggressive dog. Yeah. Yeah. Thank God. Remember when I walked in, Max was like, just look straight. Like, don't look down to react to him. And I, like, walk in the front door and I'm just, he's like, fucking right up here to me.

And I'm just like, fucking scared to me. He's like, I'm just fucking with you, man. But it was great. We talked about his process, how he takes thing. There is a big, there will be some goosebumps in this episode. Yeah. The way he talks about his process, how he takes things, puts the chips on the shoulders and keeps moving forward.

You know, I don't think we talk too much about the sobriety struggle at all, because I think you guys have gone over that before. Yeah. In the first episode, when he came on the bus, he talks about that story a lot. Yeah. It's very well. It's out there. It's out there for people.

If you want to go check out the first episode I did with Max, there's articles written on it. Yeah. And low key, this is my first time meeting Max. But knowing Will and Max's relationship and then, you know, me and Max, like, speaking to each other via, like, social media. And then Will, what he has to say about him, I feel like I literally knew Max. Like, we were dabbing him going, yo, this is the first time we've ever met. He's a good dude.

This is good dude. We played Pig after. I'm not going to tell you who won but it went well for a little bit for a little bit bro it went well What was out there Duncan Did you see him Duncan on the internet last week?

Yeah I saw that And I really thought to myself This is exactly what he wanted people to see Yeah he's so happy When he was getting warmed up Putting his socks and shoes on he's like Oh there's a camera out here Perfect dude

He needed people to know Yeah He needed to bring down the house with these boys Yeah Just a fucking grinder dude Who gets after it seems like an outstanding leader too Dave Ziegler and the Las Vegas Raiders

are very lucky to have him. The guy's a fucking grinder. Talks about the Derek Carr situation just a little bit. You know, the whole pro... The All-Pro stuff. The All-Pro.

Yeah. It's a phenomenal podcast and a cool setting, too, because he's in the comfort of his own home. Every once in a while I hear his newborn baby up there crying. His wife is incredible. He's got a good thing going over there in Las Vegas.

One thing we talk about, too, that I was interested in was the process of what it could possibly it'd be like being a rookie going to Las Vegas, Nevada to play in the NFL for the first time. That's got to be crazy. Like, that's got to be so hard. All those, there's a lot of temptation out there.

A lot of temptation. A lot of bells and whistles going on. A lot of bells and whistles. Keeping guys focused on what's what. Yeah, a lot of ways you get caught up, especially like, you know, not that Nashville doesn't have stuff too, but the two places are just so different.

Yeah, so different. Yeah. Literally their phrase is what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Like, if you were to go to the Buffalo Bills, if you're there as a rookie, compared to if you're a rookie in Vegas, very two different ones. Very different. Very, very different.

But it was good, though. He talks some shit, too, which you always got to respect and enjoy it. Which is nice. Which is very, very nice. With that being said, should we do shout-out, no-free shadow? I think so, brother. All right, listen. Shout out, no-for-shadow. This week, to save time to get you to the Max Crosby episode, we are going to X-Nay the Boys and Just Me and Will are going to go. This segment is going to be sponsored by Whistle Pig Whiskey Whiskey.

specifically the Bustin with the boys whistle pig whiskey. Now you're probably wondering what am I going to taste when I get in there? You're going to put that thing up to your lips. You're going to sip it a little bit. A little bit of heat up front like a cracked pepper type vibe, right? Like, ooh, what is that? As it slowly goes down your throat, it's going to feel like a hammock, slowly drifting you in the wind on a hot summer day.

And as you start to feel cozy and comfortable, it's going to go down to the stomach and sit so nicely on the top of that tummy, buddy. You're going to be feeling good for two to three hours. I promise you. You're going to like what you taste. With that being said, Let's do shoutout, no free shout out. I'll go first, except for the fact that I have completely forgot mine.

So, Will, you are going to go first. Mine is, this is a good time. Mine is simply a well-time fart. When you hit a well-time fart, like, you know, and I just said a well-time, when you get that perfectly timed fart, whether you're with your boys, you know, maybe with your girl, who knows. I don't know what rattles your cage with that one. But when you're around the boys and somebody has a well-time fart, bro, you just have a good laugh. Like, it's a good chuckle.

You know what I mean? Sometimes it's even more than a chuckle, but the vibes surrounding a well-time fart, especially when you've got a lot of people, too. Yeah. Maybe it gets a little quiet. You know, you romp it a little bit. I don't know. Just a good fart goes a long way with me. You got some good gas.

Yeah. You get some good time gas. Yeah. A good fart goes along with me. So that's my shout-out, no-free shout-out. I think another one we need to throw in there. That's a shout-out, no-free shot. And that is, if you are listening right now,

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Store. dot barstoolsports.com. Yeah. And then, you know, go to the Busw with the boys merchandise. That was a good. Shout out, no free shout out. My shout-out, no free shout out. goes to the anticipation of a first kiss.

You're with the individual. You might be on a first, date, second day, even a third day, and you guys are playing the limbo of who's who, what are we going to be? What is this going to turn into? And you're hoping you got your little, you can feel your heartbeat and your throat

as you lean closer and closer. Me personally, I'm a horribly time kissing individual. I get so nervous. I get so caught up in it. I kind of almost ask sometimes. Hey, can I kiss you? Yeah. I got a bono right now.

You might have, you might have we can. Low key, there's blood flow everywhere but my head. I don't know how to focus on the. type of situation. So that perfectly timed, you're sitting there, maybe it's a, it's a, what's that movie with the two dogs are eating the spaghetti? Lady and the Tramp, dude, maybe you guys are both eating one long strand of spaghetti and he slowly just move closer and closer and things just time up perfectly.

The heartbeat's going so crazy. You can't even really gather what's going around around you. It's just you and that other individual. You slowly lean in. And those lips touch for the first time, buddy, what a fucking moment. You never get another one. You never get another first kiss. So my shout out of your shout out goes to the first kiss.

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Have a ball. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Bustin with the boys. Obviously we are not on the bus right now. We are in a pristine location. Unknown. Unknown. In Las Vegas, Nevada, at the home of the legendary Max Crosby. And if you're at home right now,

go ahead and give him a round of applause. We'll do it too. Appreciate you guys. Buddy, this is an outstanding place. I appreciate it. Yeah. When did you move into this residence? We moved in May.

I lived about three minutes away before. And me and Ray, Rachel were looking at houses for a long time. And it was a very stressful, very stressful situation. You know, we're going back and forth arguing. I'm done. You know, I was at the point where I'm like, I'm done looking at houses. Like, until I get my contract, like, I'm done.

And then all of a sudden, my boys come in town. We're going to the UFC event that weekend. And Rachel's like, there's this one house. We got to see, you know, whatever. I'm like, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done looking at houses. She pulls me in the car.

We're going. We drive around the corner and that was it. We literally put an offer on this house that same day. Really? And it's this house. There is like a weird transition. Was that? I said he knew that bag was coming.

You knew the bag was coming. But when the bag is not secured yet, you do start playing the game of like, man, I wonder what I could get. And you start, you get on the Zillow app and you're looking at the things. All right, this is what I can get right now. But if I get this contract, I could go and get that and that. 100%. It's a crazy game you play in your head.

Yes, it's the best. Was that like a stressful time for you? Like before contract stuff was like... I wouldn't say stressful. Like, it was honestly like a good stress. Like, you know the situation. Like, it's hard. You don't know.

Like, you want to get to your number. Like, you're really hell-bent. Okay, on this, boom. I'm not going below this. But then in the situation, like, when it really came down to it, you know, you're never going to get exactly what you want. But at the end of the day, like,

I got enough where I don't have to, You know what I mean? I don't have to worry about money anymore. So like that's the ultimate goal. But it's, you know, for me, it's not really about the money. Like my, I've always heard from coaches, everything. Like they're like the second contract is what the NFL is all about. And for me, like I've always thought about, I always try to do above and beyond. Like, my goal is to get a third contract. Like I want to be the highest paid in a few years. Like that's, that's my ultimate goal. So like this contract was a big deal for me. Like I'm set. But at the end of day like I want to reset the market so like that's like my goal for sure one of my goals how long you

want to play 12 probably 12 to 13 just depending I honestly don't know but like I don't like we just talked about I don't ever want to step on the field and feel like like not like myself like that's when I'll know like if I get to that point I'm I'm gonna be done because there are there are players that like when they're younger in their career they play super hard like we were we were in the car driving here and like the adjective I think we used for you was like did you play relentland You play hard. And sometimes when dudes play that hard, they put some wear on the tires.

And then dudes get older and they have to change up their game a little bit. And you don't want to sacrifice that. No, no. You know, honestly, I've always kind of had that mindset. Like, ever since I, you know, started playing football, like, I truly believe there's only one way to play. And, yeah, if I'm playing and being cautious about jumping in piles and things like that, like, I probably shouldn't be playing.

And yeah, like I just want to look back in my career and be like, yeah, he put a great body of work. I don't want the last thing they remember is like my old ass trying to bend the edge and falling over and stuff. Like that's the last thing I want. You know, for me, I really want to go out on my terms because most guys don't. And that's kind of the hard thing about this business. Like, you know, I'm not in control. I don't know, you know, what's going to happen in the future. But like, I know the preparation I put into it.

I do everything I can to try to be at my best and be able to be able to. play that way. So, you know, that's kind of my, my long-term goals, but I'm just literally just trying to stay in the present. That's it. Yeah, it's almost like, how do you know? You know what I mean? Like if you're, if you end on a high note, right? The competitive nature in everybody is you continue to go. It's like, I don't feel like you would actually find out if you've lost a step unless you had a year where it's like, oh, damn, maybe maybe I don't have it like I did the year before, year prior. So it's almost like, how do you know?

Because you're also addicted to all the success as well. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, how do you feel like you would know? I don't know. I feel like, that's a great question. Like his old ass bending around the edge, I feel like that wouldn't happen unless it's like week 15 of maybe your last season.

And you're like, fuck, maybe I am slowing down. Yeah. No, that's true. You never, like, I feel like you're never going to know, like exactly. But it's just like, like, JJ. Like, I feel like it's a mental thing, too. Like, you know when you're done. Like there's guys like I feel like there's certainly like even I know Sean McVey like I don't know the all the story but like I know how he works and people talk about his work ethic like he's like when he's in it like 24 seven he doesn't stop and like people are saying he might take a break and there's rumors of that just because of how he is.

So like if I ever get to that point where I'm like sick of it and like I'm really not enjoying it and I'm you know I'm at that point where it's like I'm you know I've already I've given everything I got to it like it's time to do. just, you know, call it a career. Like, I know, I feel like I'll know when that day comes. Like, even JJ Watt, like, you've seen, he's bawling. Like, he had just had 12 and a half saxis here and he's just like, I'm done. But he knows. He kind of hit that limit. He played, what, 12 years? Yeah, but it's different, though. Like, he's, he's not taking big hits and running and put his shoulders and shit. So, like, that's different. Like, I feel like, especially playing up front, you know, Taylor, like, it's a lot and it's every single day in practice. Like, a quarterback's not taking any damage during the week.

They're not doing it during the offseason. Like we do it all the time all year round. So yeah, like my goal, like there's main goals I want to hit. Like I want to be the Raiders, all-time sack leader. Like that's something that's like big on my checklist. Like there's a lot of things that I want to hit before I'm done. So yeah, you know, I'm just going to stay in the present. That's all I can do.

But when that day comes, I feel like I'll know. What is the all-time sack leading? I think it's 107 and a half, Greg Townsend. So you're at 100 sacks. year 10 8 yeah let's say okay yeah let's say you're at 100 sacks

year 8 but you're losing a step but you need seven sacks to get that all time sack do you come back the next year to get to check your boxes where you feel like you're close you know what I'm saying I feel like that's different like if I'm in year 8 and I feel like I'm losing a step then maybe I'm not doing

something right you know what I mean like maybe that that's just you're so fucking relentless all the time like maybe you know no that's I'm still young like I'm 25 and I'm going into my fifth year you know what I mean like if I'm like just looking at it from like there's you look at the cobies the guys like that like they work relentlessly they were able to play 20 years I know it's a different sport but like even the NFL guys like I know injuries or injuries happen like that's a part of it but you know I feel like if you do all the right things you take care of your body do sleep well recover well do all the shit right you practice right keep keep ahead of things like you'll be fine and and that's how like I play I play I played almost 1,100 snaps this year. Like, I played a ton of snaps, but, like, I feel good. Like, I could go, I can start training tomorrow if I really wanted to,

but I have to force myself to slow down. So, like, I'm not fucking stupid. I don't think, like, I'm above other people, and I don't, you know what I mean? That's not how I look at it, but, like, I just, I feel like, if I just keep doing the right things where I'll be able to kind of control my destiny in a way. I was more trying to give an hypothetical of you're slowing down, but you're also right there on the cusp of a couple of those check boxes. Oh, I'm going to get that.

Yeah. I'm going to get them. I'm going to play one year, and if I go on out four sacks, then okay, it's time. But, like, I'm a definitely. Because, yeah, 101. You're right. I guess it would be like, you know, it wouldn't be like year 12 or 13. Yeah.

No, for a cent. How many seconds you got? Okay. That's pretty all right. What are other goals on that? What are other goals on that list? Um, there's that. Oh, my bad.

But it's your mouth. Um. There's a few. Like, I want to be in the Hall of Fame. That's something I want to be in. I want to be the Raiders, all-time sack leader. You know, there's a lot of things. I can't say everything, but like there's, like, the main goal is like, I want to be, definitely do that.

But I want to have a career where, like, when people look back, like, the biggest thing for me, like, the numbers and shit is cool. Like, the jacket, all that shit's cool. But, like, my main focus is, like, trying to impact the world. way the game is played. Like, I feel like in the NFL now, there's a, there's only a few guys that you really look at and are like, damn, he's just fucking, he's different. I don't know what it is, like, just the way he plays. Like, I watch, like, Chris Jones and, like, a Mikea Parsons and those guys, like,

there's just something different when they're out on the field. Like, it's like a presence. And, like, that's what I want to lead back. Like, when people look back and talk about me, they're not going to talk about the stats. At the end of the day, they don't talk about Lawrence Taylor, Sacks. They talk about when that dude is on the field, he's a fucking animal. And that's the way I look at it. Like inspiring kids.

Like, I want to be that guy that kids want to be like. Like, that's what matters most to me. So if it's six years and I feel like I'm losing a step, like, then it is what it is. Like, and I'll know I'm done. But like at the end of the day, like, I feel like the impact I leave on the game. Like I want to bring that back, like the old school way of playing football, flying to the ball, not giving a shit, like throwing my body. Like, that's what I feel like is missing nowadays for sure. from an inspiration standpoint

when you were playing at Eastern Michigan of all places and Ipsilani which is wild like we need to unpack like how you went there wild shot at the boys in red sorry I got out

he goes way better than Nebraska oh man until this year until this year when you're playing obviously the first person that comes in mind somebody you've already mentioned

like two or three times is JJ Watt was that like your guy at Eastern no not at Eastern I liked I was a big JJ fan like when I first started playing D.N. Like my first year playing D.N was, I was a senior in high school. So I was new to the position.

I'm like, what, who's the best at what I do? So like JJ at that time was like Superman. So I definitely, I like watching JJ. But there's a ton of guys. Like I love Jared Allen growing up. There's a, there's a ton. And it's not just defensive ends. Like I played growing up, I was a middle linebacker the whole time until my senior year.

So like, you know, I could go on and on. about different players. But yeah, I watch everybody and I just, I want to be, like, unique. Like somebody, not just another guy, another hardworking. Like, I'm going to be somebody that looked back. It's like, damn, like, in that time, like, this dude was just different than most dudes. Yeah, because JJ was one of those dudes who, like, fought through the fringe. Like, when I first got the Tennessee, I was like, that was when JJ was JJ.

It was terrifying. Yeah. And then, you know, he went through, like, a three, four-year spell where he, like, played six games, played nine games, like, didn't really play a whole lot. And he could have easily been where we've been, what we've been talking about was like, is he losing a step? Yeah. And he goes back to the Cardinals.

And like you said, he had 12 sacks this year. Yeah. But Loki was balling this year. It's a competitive. I feel like it's like a, that competitive fire. Also the fight of being like, this can't be the end for me. Like I need to make this comeback real. 100%.

But you're in it though. Like you're in your own. Like some people could objectively say like maybe you are losing a step, but I guess only you know. But then that's obsession of being so Uber competitive. Maybe you don't necessarily know it, but you keep going back. For sure.

And that's the thing too, guys. like the game you evolve like over time like especially like even if some guys are a little bit older that's the thing too like my game is from my rookie year to now it's like pull it you know what I mean I've gone it's not even like the same person I watch my film so even I feel like it's when you get older too like you see a guy like this I always refer to the NBA but like you see James Harden like he used to be dropping 40 a game every night and now he's like a pass first he's leading the league and assist because he's lost the step but he's also like the best passer in the league now and he's just evolved as a player so yeah i feel like that's the thing

like i have this vision of what i want my heading to look like and how it's going to be but like i truly don't know like i really don't know i just i just try to stay stay in the day bro and and if i can maximize every day and do what i do like it's just going to work out the way it's supposed to you know it's not that's not under my control what's it let go ahead no you're right i was gonna switch a subject but if you were staying on no i was just i was playing to like everyone everyone really has this like everyone's writing their own little story in their head and they're like they're narrating their own story like if I do this like it's going to look like this and like you're really watching yourself daydream of how it's all going to end everyone plays it out and you're right like a lot of

dudes can't go out in their own terms like a lot of people like uh like for me two ACLs in three years it's like I was on top of the world before that and I thought oh man I'm getting this jacket like we're going to keep going yeah and things just switch up on you you have to learn to pivot and be happy with what you've done yeah 100% what's it uh what's it like being Brian baldinger is one of his favorite players. I feel like my man is always shouting you out. Because of what you talk about the impact on the game, I feel like he does a great job of spotlighting that and showing that, the Commodore, whether or not you're getting the stat of a sack the way you affect the game. What's it like? Like having a legend like that talk about you multiple times

throughout the year. Yeah, it's awesome. You know, ever since my rookie year, for some reason, like my first game that I really got to play in was the Indianapolis game. I think it was week four of my rookie year. And he put a video out and he made up the condor nickname and all this stuff. And I was like throwing off. I'm like, damn, I didn't realize.

He's some juicy. He narrates that stuff. Good. You guys got some fire. The comment. The whole thing is classic. So it's like when he's first started doing that, like I reached out back to him and was like, man,

I was like, I appreciate it. It means the world. And then, you know, I just, as my career is gone, he's always doing videos. And now, like, we'll talk like before, you know, after a game, I'll be like, go watch what I did on this third down. Boom, and he'll check it out. It'll be like, and we'll just have conversations back and forth.

He loves. He's pushing the Commodore narrative. He loves football, bro. And that's the type of people I like to associate myself with. So, you know, like Marinelli and those guys, like, I talk to Marinelli to this day every day. You just visit him, did you? I was just saw him in Texas. I was just on the phone to them, like, two hours ago.

Like, he's one of those guys that, like, I needed my life to keep, like, everybody has those people. especially like in your sport that you like just have a different level of respect for and like baldy and like marinelli those guys like i constantly even when i'm not training like right now like i have a couple weeks to kind of get off my feet like just i need it like it's my part of like my addiction like i love playing football so having those guys just talk ball and and just feed me knowledge is is really cool how do you get the commodore nickname the condor condor excuse me did i say commodore did you say commodore i think i say commodore what He was a Commodore. I don't know. Oh, that's right. Vanderbilt. Anchor down, dude.

I mean, yeah, similar schools. Yeah, how'd you get that nickname? It was just from Baldinger. I think it was... That wingspan? Yeah, I guess the wingspan. You do have like a solid caveman, like, knuckles touching knees by here. And it's like, that's a big compliment.

The knee and her thoughts. That little fucking, you got them, them things are flying too when you're playing. Yeah, I've heard a lot of different weird names from my eyes from my eyes. watch your film. You see them. No, they're touching the right guard when you're playing the left tackle. See, that's the funny thing, bro. Like, and this is weird. And y'all, y'all can believe me or not.

But when I went to the combine, I'm like, you know, everyone's always told me that. Like, bro, you got long arm. Like, you're a long athlete. I went to the combine. I was like almost the bottom when it came to wingspan. No. They were like, I swear to God, they had articles. Ah, the Eastern Michigan.

Because, like, I did good at the combine. So people started talking about me more. But they're like, yeah, I don't know. His wingspan's short. blah and I'm like, wait, what? What was your arm length? It was like 610 wingspan. I don't know my arm length.

It was like, how tall are you? 6.5. Oh, I think it's a dub, right? If your wingspan is longer than your boy, I ain't, no, that's what you were. Yeah, you got them stubby. You got my wingspancy. He has a T-Rae.

He walks. Wrestler belt. He tries with his hands off. He got to pull his shoulders way down and get them hands away. I'm trying to hit that ball the other day in the shop and I can't, I can't get it started. I can't get the fucking. I'm like, fuck, I got to kind of bounce the ball a little bit. You do got them little stuff, but they make your arms are bigger, though, that way.

Like, if you have real long arms, your arms don't look as big. Yeah, but. I don't know. It's weird, bro. People in the football world would always stare at me down with it. You must have a small torso. Right? There's got to be something wrong.

You probably got a small torso. Yeah. I think I got wide shoulders that make my arms seem longer. I don't know. As you got no fucking. I don't know. You know, that's hilarious. I don't know.

It's weird. Okay. Eastern Michigan. Yeah. Like, how did you end up there? it's funny you brought this up. So yesterday, my D-Line coach from Eastern called me. And we're just chopping it up, talking ball and whatever.

And somehow he brings it up. He's like, yeah, you know, it's hilarious. You know, we've been interviewing a new D-Line guy because he's going to move to linebackers there at Eastern and they're getting a new D-Line coach. And he was like, Coach Creighton, my head coach, he started this thing in his interview process. He puts up five high school players film.

and shows the D-Line coaches and has them rank the D-Lyman. He puts like, whatever, one of the guys that are trying to recruit, he puts my film in there from my high school, like when I was in high school, and he puts like, you know, four other random guys. He said, so my D-Line coach, my old D-Line coach told me yesterday, he said every single coach ranks me at like fourth or fifth from high school day.

And I'm dying laughing. And they don't know that it's you. They don't know. And then they're like, yeah, you know, that's Max Crosby, right? And they're like, they all get awkward. Yeah, that's got to be a talk to you. It's awkward. You just got to sit there and that meeting and go,

I'm not getting this job. Yeah, it's over. But that's kind of like, bro, I was a late bloomer. Like, I was a linebacker all the way up to my senior year. Then we got these new coaches. And I had a big gross per, but like my body, I wasn't caught up.

Like, bro, my knees were hurt. And I was slow twitch as fuck. Like, if you watch my high school film, you'd be like, yeah, I'm not surprised you went to Eastern. Like, I was surprised I got a D1 offer. They were the only D1 to offer me, bro. They're my only offer in general. So, like, I got that offer.

I jumped on it, committed, and boom, and then, yeah. Were you a basketball guy? Yeah, I played basketball. You were a B-sohn. Yeah, I could hoop. No easy buckets. You play in the paint? I was, I was like a, you know, like a stretch-for kind of guy.

I could shoot the ball. Come on. I swear to God, I'd rather shoot than be on the block. Like, I'm not a back-to-the-basket guy. I'm catch the ball at the top, move, get to the lane, hammer that. You're a pain guy. Absolutely not. You can't jump.

I can rebound, but like I'm not back to the basket, old school George Mike intics. Can you dribble? Well, I'm not going to hype myself up. But I've, the Serbian, my mom Serbian is, it's translated to the court. Can you do the jibble between your legs? Can you dunk? Can you do the thing? We go right there and I'll windmill in there.

Can you do the pool? I'm talking about the other hoop. We have a court back there. Is it even regulation? That's probably eight feet. Yeah. Yeah, it's got to be eight feet. Can you do the thing where you bounce the ball and you pick your shirt up?

and the ball goes in and you slap it and it goes around. And one mixtape. I don't think I can do that. You think you're the best basketball player on the Raiders? Yeah. I think guys would tell you that too. Really? I'm not going to hype myself up, but we've all played it again.

I see you over there getting a little, you keep like twitching a little bit. I can get wiggily. Yeah. Like you're a little triggered that we're kind of questioning your basketball. Yeah, it hurts. But it's normal for, you know, being a white guy. They will always question you at first, but then you go on the court and you fucking hammered on someone's sad. You had to get yatted everywhere.

It changed. Yeah, it changes. Yeah, dude. you are you are a tatted is uh what's it like playing defense being white is that tough um i remember when taylor calls you oh he's just another normal white guy out there on the feeling actually will told me that story i forgot that even happened explain that steer my feelings what happened that day because i don't remember when saying that to you remember no i really don't you told me my whole focus in that game was uh you when we were playing the raiders you literally

told me we were pulling up and you're like Was Max the guy where I said, look, he's just another white guy. No, but I, yeah, yeah, because you've told me that story, but I don't remember in the moment saying that. I just remember him saying that to you. We finally got you guys here together. Max will let me down on, like, how much money?

I think I, oh, wait, no, no, I was telling you, I'll give you $200 per sack you got on Taylor. It was something like that, yeah. They run a lot of... Hey, I got the Titans back this year, though, so I was proud. And I let very able know about it. Did you really?

Yeah. What did you say the braids? I was talking the whole game. You were just sitting there on the sidelines and his knees. And you all tried to run that weird reverse boot shit And I just fucking shed it Great, we had great play calling Yeah, it was like on a third down

And I just jetted Smoked Tannahill And I looked to the sideline variable Just look He was right there I was like stop running that shit at me Stop running that shit And he's like okay

Shaking his head and shit That's a Braybaud He's like okay But I fuck with Vrabble bro He's one of those coaches This is random off topic But he like he texts me all the time He's cool as shit

He was my coach Of the Pro Bowl last year Max Crawford v. The Titans. He's playing the long game. Yeah. You got to respect that. That's their contract. You just got to build relationships.

You never know. Bring you to Nashville with the boys. I don't know about that, but. You would be fantastic in two-tone blue. You never know. You never know. But yeah, I'm happy why I'm that. You joined the boys in that show, wouldn't you?

If they didn't want me here anymore, yeah, of course. But I think it's going to work out just fine. Dude, Rabel. You don't know Raibol, like, we know Brable, because he'll go in meetings like on Wednesdays and Thursdays and pull up tape and just dummy guys

like just verbally assault them and I remember playing I think it was that your rookie year we played in Oakland that's what we played each other he would put you on the film and there wasn't really a bad thing because you play hard

and there wasn't a bad thing but he's like this loud mouth motherfucker like just like circling him was like this guy he can't fucking touch the quarterback fuck this guy like going off about you

the whole time and that's got to be a great feeling because I've had the same thing with like Bill O'Brien and Bill O'Brien be like, A, 77, he's a fake tough guy. And that hurt every time. Every time. Remember Gunther in the defensive meeting that week?

What did he say? It was like the same kind of stuff. Similar, yeah. He's just a talker. He's going to try to get in your head. He's going to try to chirp you the whole time. It's funny, but that's like I have, you know, how the NFL is. You have friends on all different teams.

You know a bunch of guys. Like, that's the funniest shit when you sit there and talk after the season. They're like, yeah, in our meeting, you know, we circled you and just kind of hearing what other teams have to say about you. like that's interesting you know everybody has their own kind of perspective on who you are as a guy yeah there's some teams that think i'm the biggest piece of shit on the planet like really of course like he's he's so loud i'm loud and he when he makes a play he's like showing what motherfucker yeah yeah i can't help myself i love it like i'm loud but that's like there's there's certain

teams that you could tell like they're trying to fuck me up like the niners team like the niners coach and all them they like buttered me up all week they're like man besides bosa he's you know he's probably the best guy. Once we got to the game, they tried to send the fucking house at me, bro. They were doing, bro, just different, weird, like the Niners blocking, like, the schemes and shit they do, I've never experienced

anything like it. Like, bro, they were tackle, tight end, both going down, and the guard would fucking, like, they were coming at angles. You didn't even know where the fuck they were coming from, bro. It was just different. But, like, that's the thing. Like, that's the coolest thing about the league is, like, being in a position, you know how it is. Like,

you're on an island the whole game. You don't even have to worry about it. So like that's your responsibilities. For me, it's the opposite. I know they're going to be sending shit at me. And it's like, it's a different type of challenge every week. And all the offensive coordinators, they all got a different way of approaching it. And it's, it's cool because after the games, they'll talk to like, yeah, we're trying to fuck you up and we're trying to do this. And I'm like, oh, you got me on this. But I fucked you up on that place. So it's cool, man. That's what that's what the league's all about. Yeah, Kyle Shanahan's so good. He's a stud. I was watching their first playoff game. And the,

The blocking seems are wild. Wild, bro. Like, there was, what was the play? Oh, they, like, the tight end, like, went out on the end and then, like, flashed the end as if he wasn't, like, he was going to block him, then went away. Then Trent was there. That was when McCaffrey had, like, that long, like, 55-yard runs. But the blocking scheme was just so unique. And it's simple.

Because you look at it from an office line, I'm like, oh, they're just running this play with, like, these two little different things. Yeah. But they do such a good job of opening up holes. Yes. They got studs all around I was gonna say yeah that helps as well When you got fucking Like between Debo and McCaffrey

Like those In open field there's probably There's not you can't name anybody really better than that Like you got Tyreeks and shit like that But like McCaffrey and Debo Like in open field they're fucking electric bro Dangerous Yeah what's it like playing against Tri Williams

He's a stud He's a stud he was fun though We had some good battles Did you get one on them? Yeah I got a couple on them I didn't get a sack on them But I had a nice little QB hit on the little inside move.

You let me. It felt good. No, we were talking. He's cool as shit. He's talking, like, just having conversation. But I usually, I'm a line up on the left. So, like, I'm going against the right tackle most of time. So once I went over, like, we knew, like, Trent's going to be on an island.

So during the game, we kind of schemed it up. We're okay, Max, you're going to play a little bit more on Trent because you'll have more one-on-one opportunities because they're going to probably chip with the right tackle and stuff. So I got to rush against him a couple times, but I fared well. I had some good rush. He has some good. He's just a big motherfucker and he's athletic.

So it was a good matchup, bro. We got the best for each other a few times. It was cool. You were telling him that story on the plane about him and Deshawn Jackson. Just to his athletic ability, yeah. Like there was one off season where we were in OTAs and they were basically trying to narrow it down

who had like the fastest start. So like every group, I mean, very subjective, but 10 yards. It's kind of hard to figure out who wins every one. But every position group would go and then they would put everybody together. But the final two were DeShon Jackson and Trent Williams. Because he could just get out.

Like he's extremely athletic. They would talk about him playing basketball. They would talk about playing. He was massive upper body. Makes no sense. He's so talented. They said he would, when they would play basketball at the Y, that he'd play like Beyond the Arc.

He went and he'll dunk, like, do all the stuff. He's just like a super athlete, bro. He's a freak, bro. He really is a freak. What about McGlinchie? McGlinchie? That really tackle for the Niners. Yeah, he's a big dude.

He's a big guy. He's a little more stiff, but I feel like he's an underrated cat. Like, he doesn't get enough respect. Yeah, no, I thought he was solid. You know, that's the weird thing. Like, especially now, like, I'm, like, this year, especially. Like, I played on the left side majority of the time. And, like, early on, with me and Chandler were both going,

like, the chips would go back and forth. So I would have some more one-on-ones and shit. But Chan got hurt against Pittsburgh. And, like, the last few games, it was, Like, if I wasn't moving around, like, I'm getting, they're sliding and they're chipping. So it was hard. It was really fucking difficult to kind of get those true one-on-ones. And especially when you're not up in games.

Like, you don't, you know, it's a lot less, you know, it's a lot more predictable of what they're doing. So, no, I got, yeah, Mike McGlenshy, he's a big motherfucker. He was, he was solid. We definitely, yeah, we had a good little back and forth. It was fun, bro. That's the thing with the Niners. There's certain teams, bro, that, like, they just make it. really difficult for your D-line and shit to get off.

And that's always the biggest challenge. Like the New England's, like, you know when you're playing New England, they're going to literally do everything they can to try to stop this guy and this guy. And like Tennessee's like that too. I know Brable's come from the Patriot way too. So like I sit there and hear McDaniels, he's like, okay, Bosa right here. Every single time we're going to slide, we're going to boom, we're going to. And I already know going to the week, like I'm playing Bill Belichick.

He's going to try to fuck me up every play. In Tennessee, I know Vrable's not going to let me just go and try to wreck the game. and that's, I feel like that's as years have gone on. Like, that's been, you know, like in my game, like, having to evolve, you have to truly, like, you have to truly be on it every single play because they're bringing more than one, more than, more than less. It's got to be a hell of a compliment, though. Yeah, they're sliding to me and chipping me.

It's got to feel good. No, it's awesome, but at the same time, it's very frustrating. Like, that's, like, I feel like the biggest part. Like, in the past, like, last year, like, I was getting in my head because I wasn't getting, like, I was. getting a shitload of pressures, but I wasn't getting home. Like, there was like a stretch where I like had six games in a row where I didn't have a sack. I felt like I was rushing my best, but I wasn't getting home for some reason. And like, that's the thing as a rusher that's so difficult. Like,

there's no play called for you that you have to go earn every single stat, every play, every sack, every TFL. So, like, that's the challenge. And like, people from the outside world, if you're not getting sacks as a rusher, like, they think you're, you're like not bawling. You know what I mean? Like, Chandler was bawling and people were on his head. because his sack numbers were low. And, like, you feel, like, Chandler was the same guy last year that I was calling, like, bro, like, I don't know why I can't get a fucking sack, and he's helping me out.

So, like, having Chan here this year, like, I was getting a lot of sacks, and Chan was, you know, going through it a little bit. And, like, being able to be there for him is, like, it's, like, crazy, bro. It goes full circle because, like, Chan's a dude, I looked up to two forever. He's 100 plus sacks, and he's in year 11, and he's, like, going through it. And it's, like, it's tough because it just shows. like as a rusher, like this shit is really difficult. And you have to appreciate every single stat

and everything you get because like you could rush great for the whole game, but they could just be getting rid of the ball. They could be, you know what I mean? That's the tough part about it. But that's also like the beauty in it when there's a reason why it's actually like a big thing because it's not, everything's got to go right. They've got to hold the ball.

The coverage has got to be on point. Everything's got to be, you know, on point for you to get home. So. Yeah, Chandler's good football. Chandler is. Oh, yeah. I didn't, yeah, I forgot. Yeah.

I forgot. I forgot. Oh, you forgot. Chan's a fucking dog, but I love. As a human being, the dude's one of the coolest dudes that ever, man. When I was playing him in 2021, he had like four sacks that day. I gave up two of them. And there was like the end of the game.

At that point in the game, I was at such a low point. I was like, I just need to get the fuck out of here and regroup somehow. And he like rushed me. And he went to pull away and I had his chain and I tore it off. And he's like, oh, man, now I'm really mad. Now I'm really coming. I'm like, hey, man. like walking back to the huddle.

You have four sacks. You're all right. Like, just relax. Just relax. You're not enough for the month. I was, that was the lowest football moment. But low key,

even before I got hurt, I never played him well. He always played really well against me. Like, my second year, I played him. He was at the Patriots. And like the first third down,

dude, takes me in the back of the quarterback, strip sack fumble, return for a touchdown. That's how the game started first series. Why do you think he's always done so well? Like,

what do you feel like makes him, like, he's, uh, I don't, I think like if I were to play him again, I would, I would vary up my sets more. He's so long and he does a good job. Like it looks like he's always on a step cadence.

Like one, two, bull, one, two, three. Like turn those shoulders and he's really long too. So short corners are not good against him. Like if you get him to like nine and a half, he's got that capability to reach with the far arm and get that quarter of that ball out. So it's like he's got enough speeds where like I got to respect this, but also he can turn in power also. And then dudes that,

and I can't remember if you play like this or not, but like, he doesn't necessarily, like, play, like, sound run defense. Like, so you, like, when you're trying to shoot off the ball, like we do at Tennessee, he goes inside, like, he can jump around. Like, if he has that kind of freedom, like, that's an easy way to, like, second guess yourself.

And he's always been, he's always played me well. I think of all the players, ever played, like, he's been a guy that's always kind of have my number. Yeah. Even before getting hurt. He's a stud. Yeah, there's always those guys in the league.

Every year you're like, okay, I know this is about to be. Got to mark this one down. This is about to be. Yeah, like, I got to be on my shit. And that's, yeah, Chandler's just, bro. He's just unique, like how he explained. He's got, he's not fast. But he's got, like, he's not fast.

And he'll tell you that. He knows he's not. But he's just, he's so long. And he's so, like, he's just a different athlete. It's like his brother. Like, they're so long, but they're not fast. And they probably, they can't jump high, but they're like freak athletes. I don't even know what he.

explain it. It's just really unique. The measurable aren't there, but like the game film is way different than what you see, like, his combine numbers would be. Exactly. He just, he's just a unique player, bro. He was born to play football. A dude's a stud, bro. You met his brother? No, I haven't.

No. I heard he's going to fight again, right? He's fighting. He's got two brothers. Arthur Smith, he played in the league too. Yeah, the whole family. Whole family. And the pros. Yeah, it's Arthur, right? That's the coach of the Falcons. But am I? Who? The last name is Jones. Arthur Jones.

Arthur Jones. I don't know why I said Smith. What a fucking hitting. That black label not has hit in. Yeah. Because he was my teammate in Washington. Arthur Smith. I'm like,

that's not even the same name. I don't think that's the same name. What's Arthur do? Is he an athlete as well? He was a, he won a Super Bowl in Baltimore. Oh, shit. I didn't know that.

Yeah. He's the oldest, though. Yeah, he's the oldest. He didn't have as long as a career. But like that whole family is just a breeding grounds of athletes. All brothers in NFL. That's, he was. That's ridiculous.

Yeah. No, I think he's a stud, man. And you're right, he's like an anomaly. Like, you look at him. He's got, like, the size. Yeah. Like you, like, he looks like his, he must have a short torso as well,

how long his arms are. Long torso. But, like, he legit, like, does, like, incredibly wacky, very unorthodox, extremely unorthodox, but he just, he does well. He doesn't against me.

You mentioned earlier about the Patriot Way, what's it like playing for Coach McDaniels? What's it been like playing for Coach McDaniels transitioning from Coach Passachia last year? obviously you guys are super close. Passachi is a fucking legend. But then Coach McDaniels comes in. What's it been like playing for Coach McDaniels?

Honestly, my experience has been great. I feel like every time you get a new coach in, there's new expectations. And I feel like it definitely takes time to adjust, you know, as a whole. Like if you're halfway in, halfway out, you're not going to last in the way he coaches. Like he has a very specific way that he wants things to be done. He's all about work ethic, all about doing the extra mile.

Like that's how he approaches it. And I, like we talked about off camera, like me and him, we've had a great relationship ever since I got here. The dude, that's how I think when it comes to training and stuff. I'm always doing extra. So it's nothing new to me when it comes to that. But like I said, if you're a guy that's, you know, the normal NFL guy, they're not training all offseason. You know what I mean? They're doing it.

It's like it's hard. It's not like a normal NFL team. Like it's just different You're talking about the way he runs the operation? Yeah, just the operation. Like we're really working, bro. Like even during the season, like, we're in pads like late in the season at some point. I've heard there's some tough days.

Yeah, there's some tough days. But like that's just, that's what it is. Like, you know what I mean? You can bitch and complain about it or you can show up and fucking improve and get better. And especially in our situation, like, bro, we're 6 and 11. But like, we lost, we were in every single game, basically, besides New Orleans. Like, we lost every game by like less than a touchdown. So we're right there.

And that's probably the hardest part about it. It's like, fuck, we're right there. But we have great building blocks on this team. You know, we have Devante, we have Josh Jacobs, we have a ton of guys. It's just we're not there yet. But I feel like we're definitely like on our way. Like if things go our way, you know what I mean? This year, like we could have easily been a double deal.

We could have won 10 games easily. But that's not the reality. You know, last year we won every single close game. And that's the toughest thing about it. It's like you can either overthink. think it and you know dwell on it and bitch about it but we went 6 and 11 that's our record

it's fucking it's not acceptable but I feel like Josh as a coach he's done a really good job for sure um go ahead no he just seems like uh yeah because this is like this is not meant to be a shot this is just like an observation like the raiders like really underperform for based on the you guys have an

incredible amount of talent on that team yeah and so how do you obviously without over thinking it what are the little things here and there that you guys lose by losing by seven you can now win by three like what are those little changes i think you know i've talked about this already um but it's like for me it's the standard like holding guys to there there has to be a standard set they can't just be you show it the practice you do the plays we're not going over we're not sitting here and you know you should watch the film and everybody should be graded you know are we really really

running to the ball like little shit like that i feel and that just how i have an old school mindset when it comes at like just the little details of run into the ball loafs like the shit we talk about like that's that's what i think's the difference you know at the end of the day like if the standard is not set in the offseason and ota's and shit like that is never you're never going to go on the field and everybody's going to be on the same page it's just not reality and that's where i feel like you know last year or the year before like when you were there like that's we got to that point at the end of the year. Like everybody was playing for each other.

And that's the new thing. And it's not like it's McDaniel's fault or anything. Like everything's new. So it does take time. And that's, you know, something as a leader. Like that's what I feel like I need to, you know,

take another step, you know, as a leader and being a captain. Like that's something I'm really focused on is building, you know, bringing up the other guys. The guys that really want to be, you know, really want to be great and be a difference maker, not just another guy on the roster to fill out of spot. Like that's, that's what we need. You know, I feel like, like you said, we have the. the talent in big spots, but like we do have a lot of things we got to improve on.

Like, you know, our D-line wasn't good enough. Our defense in general wasn't good enough as a whole. Like it wasn't, we did not play to what I, you know, believe the standard should be. You know, we've rushed a lot better the year before. We covered better. You know, there's little things that we got to improve on. So, you know, that's, and it's a group effort, you know, it's got to take everybody. And, you know, I feel like we're definitely going in that direction.

The second half of the season, we played a lot. better on defense. But that's just a tough part about it. You can go back and forth and we lost close games, but like either way, we lost. And that's at the end of the day, six and eleven, six and eleven is fucking terrible. So yeah, you know, I believe in them. I believe that, you know, we're going to keep building up the roster in a lot of key spots and, you know, just keep going in the right direction. But the main thing for me is a standard, bro. Like, we have to have a standard and there can't be guys that are halfway in and halfway out because you know how it is. You have fucking nine guys on the same page and

two or halfway out the door is never going to work. Yeah. Do you feel like that's what it was? The standard wasn't held the entire year because a lot of the talks and the headlines and the conversations was, you know, last year we ended up winning like the last five games. Yeah. And then you go in, you think you're going to build off. You have a new regime coming.

Of course it does take time. But then putting the year that you guys did put together, you keep alluding to the standard and everything else and half in, half out, do you feel like it was upholding that standard when you do look at it? Yeah, I feel, and like you said, like we talked about, it's not easy. You know, the way of, you know, how Coach McDaniels does it is not easy. We're working hard. Like, bro, we're in training camp.

It's fucking 100 degrees out around the field. Like, we're not practicing at 7 in the morning. Like, we're practicing like 10. Like, that shit, it's hot, bro. Like, people are dying. And then we're running gasters at the end. Like, it's not a joke. That desert heat.

Bro, that desert, that real heat. And so that's my point. Like, As a player, like I pride myself on my routine about doing it every day, no matter if I'm in a bad mood, if I'm feeling like shit, like showing up and trying to improve regardless of how I feel. And I feel like we didn't have enough of that this year. Just we didn't sustain it for a whole season.

You can do it in camp. You can do it in OTAs for the first couple months. But it's like we need a bunch of guys who are willing to sacrifice the whole year and be on point. And, you know, that's just a part of it where, you know, I feel like we're going to bring in more guys that are like-minded. And, you know, I'm trusting it's not my control. I'm just, you know, I just want to be a leader.

You know, that's my main goal. Lead the guys. Bring up the younger guys and show them the way. When you're saying, like, I have a standard for myself that I say every day, whether I feel like shit or I feel good, like when you feel like shit and you don't want to do it. Because I feel like a lot of people are going to hear that and be like, everyone goes through the same thing. Yeah. Everyone's got motivation week one.

And now all of a sudden. sudden it's week 10, you're like, oh man, I really don't want to get up and go do it again. Like, what are the things that you tell yourself when you're working through that process? Like, you wake up in the morning. You're sore. It's Wednesday. You know you're going into pads. You know it's week 12. Like, how do you make sure not only you set that standard for yourself, but as a leader, like you're saying, said that for everybody else?

Yeah. You know, the main thing for me is just, it's that foundation. Like, if you don't have a solid foundation going into the season, like, if there's a little cracks in it, that shit, the whole house is going to come down by, you know, halfway through the year. And that's, like, my main thing. I'm a very, like, I have an addictive personality. You know what I mean? I've an addict at the end of the day.

So, like, I use it to my, as a superpower nowadays. Like, there's certain shit. Like, every single day I'm doing the same thing. Like, normatags stretch every night before I go to bed, like, cold tub, hot tub every single day. You know, there's certain things I have to do, my meal prep, everything. So, like, even when I'm feeling like shit, I have to, like, every morning I know I have to do it. Like, it's an agreement I have with myself once the season ends.

And that's something I'm doing right now trying to figure out, okay, what can I do better? Well, how am I going to be better next year? What am I? Like, there's certain things I write down, like, I'm not breaking this. Like, there's no, there's no conversation with myself in my head, no matter how fucking bad I feel. So I feel like it's just, you know, the main thing is just being mentally, you know, obviously, you got to be mentally strong, but you have to just make agreements with yourself. Like, I'm not fucking breaking this.

And we'll see what happens. goes great if I play great whatever like that's amazing that comes with it but like if I don't play up to the level I expect like I know I did everything trying to do that so I'm not going to feel like a piece of shit like I statistically the numbers might not be there but knowing yeah if I put everything I have in a row I can't feel bad about it so but obviously that's not the case yeah yeah like and just trusting it so like that's what I always try to tell the young guys it's like like my thing this pass off season like what could I do better as far as going into training like the weird little difference I made.

Like I was going at at 8 a.m. and going to train. My agreement with myself this past off season was I'm going to be in the building by six no later every morning, 6 a.m. Monday through Friday. And that's fucked. That's not easy in the off season. No, especially Fridays when you get to go in later. Fuck yeah. And this is, I'm talking February, March, when there's no, I don't have to be there technically. Like, this is all off season. And I did that. So once the season got there, like that was like a, boom, I checked that

off. I did that. Like, that's, for me, that's where I get my confidence. from. It's a little shit that like nobody nobody's telling me I got to do this. It's little shit that like it's challenging as fuck in the off season when I I could sit here and sleep and get relaxed until 8 a.m. You know what I mean? But I'm getting up at 5.15

and I'm going and going and working out when there's nobody in that bitch. That's kind of what I, you know, that's just one thing. But that's how I pride myself is just like setting the standard. Boom, this is what I'm doing regardless of the situation, no matter how I feel I'm getting the fuck out of bed and I'm doing this. And that's where

all my confidence comes from and that's how I try to push the guys around me because I'm not like a big hoorah guy I'm not going to stand there if this is what we fucking got to do blah blah blah like I'll speak what I have to but like as a leader like I feel like at the end of the day the true leaders like they show they show that shit every single day and that comes to practice the weight room like that's so I try to carry myself and pry myself on because if you go and ask any guy in the locker room or ask Dave and ask Dave when you get there you can ask fucking coach McDaniels like they can say whatever, you know, I might be a dick sometimes, I might, whatever, but... Red head.

Yeah, red, beard, everything. You know what I mean? Super white. But at the end of the day, they can never say I don't work harder than anybody in that building. I think it's show. That's what I pride myself on. That matters.

Having non-negotiables is like a massive, a massive thing that people need to have. It's huge, bro. Even if you don't play sports. It changed it. Two years ago when I got that surgery, bro, I started doing that. It's changed my whole fucking life, bro. It definitely shows, and that's like me being there. You are literally there doing your shit every day.

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Yeah. So people know about that and understand, you know, how you come correct every day. Do you feel like you need to speak up a little more to fill more of that leadership role to uphold that standard that you were alluding to earlier? Yeah, you know, like I evaluate everything from my leadership to my play to my just my attitude, my presence, like everything I really sit down and break down. What can I do better here? And I feel like that's with anything. You know, I could, there's always room for improvement as a leader. But I feel like, you know, my third year when you were there, we beat the charges last game.

Like that was my first year being a captain. And I'd never been a captain my whole life. So that was my first time really being voted a captain. And so it was like I was learning a lot, you know what I mean, being in that leadership role. But it was different. It was a lot easier when I had a bunch of guys who thought like me, like Quentin Jefferson, Solomon Thomas, Yonick, like they're all,

like all of them are fucking crazy. Yonick legit. Yeah. Like they're all kind of crazy in their own way. But like that's how I am. So like I really didn't have to push. You know what I mean? We're all like they've seen how I work.

There wasn't negotiables. They're with me after the work. you know what I mean after practice running with me KJ Wright had a full squad yeah like I wasn't having to pull motherfuckers that's what I feel like this year it was different you know it's a lot different because a whole new team basically more use yeah a lot of younger guys a lot of guys coming from other teams practice squads and boom they're playing on Sunday with me so that's that was the challenge this year is like this dude doesn't fucking even I don't know this guy at all

I just met him two days ago and now I got to try to lead him you know what I mean like that was the biggest challenge this year is there was a lot of change a lot of different guys in and out ton of injuries so like it was a big challenge and I feel like overall it's like the hardest year mentally for me because I feel like I was playing my best ball and I really had a lot of shit that was going on we were struggling we're losing a lot of close games like there was a lot of moments where I could have just fucking lost you know lost my marbles and act out you know just fucking lash out but like I really had to sit there and just internalize a lot of shit and just be grateful for just being in this

situation because I can look at it and bitch about it oh I don't have you know I don't have have a bunch of pro bowlers playing with me i don't have this uh he has this and point to other teams well this guy's got that you know what i mean like i could do that but it's just it does nothing and it's that's what a fucking coward would do and for me it's like bro i trust what i'm doing i know i'm working like like no other and i trust in the end it's all going to work out the way it's supposed to if i just continue doing the right shit and like i look at guys like aran donald like bro he was in with the rams they sucked for years and he was the best player in the league but nobody was really talking about him, like, how they talk about him now.

But over the time, he's stuck to the process. He continued to dominate. And then by year, what is it, year 10, last year, he's in the Super Bowl, biggest moment. Everyone fucking sees Aaron Donald. There's no question he's the best. And he goes in the biggest play and fucking wins the Super Bowl. Like, that's the shit I think about.

Like, when I get those moments. Yeah, like, it's touchdown, bro. And he wins and gets home ballgame. Like, that's the type of shit I think about. Like, I can lose my shit right now and be like, well, fucking Michael Parsons is rushing with DeMarcus. and fucking, you know, he's got other, you know, whatever, but that's not, you know, that's not what it is.

My story is different than everybody. So I just trust that, bro, and I continue to just grind, bro. I work nonstop, and I trust it's all going to work out the way I'm supposed to. When you first get to the NFL, like there's a lot of distractions and guys, like you have no money, then all of a sudden you have a bunch of money, regardless of where you're drafted, like, it's more money than you've ever had. And that is difficult anywhere you go. But it's, I can't imagine what it's like.

being a rookie or a younger guy and coming to Las Vegas to play for the Raiders. Like how is that, how are you going to work through that process? Because that stadium, you can see it. You can see the strip. And it is a cool place to be. It is fun.

And if you're a young cat with all this money, like how do you keep guys straight during the season when you're not winning all the games you should be winning? That's a tough question. You know, everybody's different. And that's the biggest difference when you get to the NFL. It's not like college. You know, everybody in college, it's like, like even...

Yeah, it's a lot more structure. Everybody's on an even playing ground. Nobody's richer than this guy. It's like, this is what it is. You know what I mean? Now you get to the NFL and this is any city. You play with New York Giants here in New York City. There's always going to be that.

Like, I was in Ipsilani, Michigan, and I still found ways to get fucking lit and have fun and do all that shit. So, like, being in Vegas, obviously, it's amplified. But I feel like just having a solid foundation, bro, and good people around you, being around the right people because there can be, there's a, bro, there's a million people

that are going to pull at you and, hey, I got this for you, bro, hey, come into this club, I got you hooked up and then all of a sudden, two months later, like, you want me $20,000 from that one day. Right.

What? You know what I mean? And those commotas are skeevy, bro. Fuck yeah. So like, bro, I just, for me, it's just, I don't even, bro, I don't even go to the club.

I'm chilling all the time. I go to cigar lounge. That's the only thing I do. So I stay out of it. Yeah, I have a different, but yeah, for young guys, bro, it's hard. Like, if I was here as a rookie, bro, I don't even know what to fuck. I was fucking wild. Yeah, because I was going to say, like, you've been really vocal about your whole process.

Yeah. When you first came in the league, imagine if you were in Vegas. I'd be crazy. And that's the thing, like I say, like these rookies, I can't sit here and be like, stay in your house and do it. Like, because at the end of the day, bro, guys are going to go out. Especially if you're single. Guys are going to, especially if you're going to be out doing whatever you're going to do. It's just about being, being smart, bro.

Be cautious. Don't go out by yourself. Don't go out with people you don't know. Like you really got to roll with the people you trust and stay out the bullshit because there's a bunch of bullshit going on. Especially at that, where you go out to a nightclub,

you don't know what the fuck's going to happen. You know what I mean? Somebody, they see you, they know you're an NFL player, you're immediately a target. No matter what it is. Like they want whatever you got. And people are willing to lose

whatever they have to fucking get what you have. People will fucking rob you in broad daylight. They don't care. And that's just the thing, you know, for the young guys, just knowing who you're around and don't just be out and about. Right. It's normal. You know what I mean?

You're not. I think that's the thing I really, like, I still have to slap myself because I'll drive and pull up to a gas station by myself and the fucking big chain. I won't even think about it. You know what I mean? And that's now, like, as I gotten older, like, I truly have to like slap myself in the face. Like, I'm not, I can't just roll around and do whatever, like normal sometimes because people

are crazy, bro. You see it all the time. Guys, NFL players go to L.A. and get fucking their whole. shit robbed and taken and they're just going out there to go hang out with family it's like it's dangerous bro especially nowadays bro you see more and more of it all the time uh can you talk about when the switch with derrick car was made how how it impacted you and how you felt like it probably impacted the team in that moment if at all because obviously there was a lot of noise outside of the building

yeah um a lot of noise definitely outside the building um It was tough, bro. I remember that morning. Because D.C.'s been the defranchised guy since you've came to the Raiders. Yeah, yeah. He was all four years. He was my quarterback. He's nine years of the starter, which is crazy.

It doesn't happen. So, yeah, I'm sitting there. You're hearing rumors like, okay, is Derek going to get benched this week? You know, what is going on, blah, blah, blah. And you're just kind of hearing rumors, rumor. But you know how it is. You don't believe all this shit. You're just like, okay, we'll see.

And then all the things. the sudden, like, we went in that morning, and me and D.C. are always the first two guys in there, and we sit there and eat breakfast. So, like, squad is at eight. Like, we're in there at six o'clock, and we sit there and we eat breakfast together. We talk. We go in the hot tub. I go, take a dump, and then he goes and does whatever he does. You know what I mean? So I go in there, and D.C. wasn't there at the breakfast table. And so I asked Angie, who's there. She runs the kitchen. She's the best. Shout out to Angie. This is the camera.

I love you, Angie. She's the best. She always sits with us and watches it and just chops it up with us. And I was like, Angie, where's D.C.? Have you seen him? She's like, no, he hasn't been in yet. And that's in my head. I'm like, fuck.

You know what I mean? Something went down. So, yeah, like an hour later, I'm in my locker. I just got out the hot tub. And D.C. walks in. And he's looking at me. I just knew.

Like I just knew immediately And he just, whatever He gave me a man hug He's like, bro I don't want to make it look Like I'm, you know, quit on y'all or anything But like me and Josh talk Like I'm, you know, I'm gonna be

I'm gonna go home and for these next two weeks And you know, figure out my situation But it was like, you know, obviously They had their business behind the scenes And they've had an agreement So like it wasn't like he's just like Fuck it, I'm not showing up It was just like, you know, business.

So yeah, it was tough Like DC's my boy bro Like me and DC have been and always, you know, as friends, like, bro, he's a great dude. I love D.C., and he's going to, you know, somebody's going to have him as their starter next year. And hopefully I get to play against him and be dope. But I wish him the best, bro.

It's just, it's hard. Like, in this league, there's really, you know, you can play for a team for 10 years, give everything you got. Like, but unless you're like Michael Jordan or you're Tom Brady, like even Tom Brady, it's the same thing. Like, bro, he was in year 21, six Super Bowl, and he ended with a bad, relationship and they got rid of you know what I mean and there was kind of friction like

it's crazy bro at the end of the day so it's a business it's a business and that's the thing you got to realize it's not personal it's not like people don't like DC everyone you know everyone's cool with DC we love them but it is what it is you know Josh and Dave they got their vision of what they want and you know that's just part of this business man I and I trust them you know I'm on this team and they're my coaches that at the end of the day I got to believe in what they got you know what mean and what they're bringing and what they're doing. But at the same time, it's hard when it's your boy. And there's emotion to it.

So it's like, damn, what the fuck? And then you like, you want to get mad. But it's like at the same time, you have to understand both sides of it. And that's kind of what I've learned, you know, being in the league more. It's like you can't take shit personally because it's not personal, bro. It's a billion dollar business. And it is what it is. Dude, I've been around Derek just like a handful of times.

He's like the nicest. He seems like the nicest guy. Yeah, his great dude. Focus, kind, like charismatic, good dude. So he's gone. This is the off season. Hypothetically, who do you want to be the quarterback of the Las Vegas Raiders? Who do I want?

Like if it was just your world, they call you, say, who you want. You got who you want. You get to play GM. Now this will be taken out of context. People are like, oh, Max wants this guy, wants that guy. I'm just saying perfect world boss. Yeah, fun hypothetical. Fun hypothetical.

Fun hypothetical. We're just having a little giggle time, dude. Yeah. This is a nice little time. Just boys hanging out. Tom Brady might be on the board. The boys and two dogs. Three dogs.

I don't even see a little one over there. Yeah, she's snuck in. Yeah, she's snuck in behind the tank, dude. Tom Brady? I would love to have Tom Brady. Hey. How, I don't know how that can be controversy. It's fucking Tom Brady.

It's Tom Brady. As a leader, as a fucking player. As the goat. As the goat. Fuck yeah. I would love to play with Tom Brady. Bro. If he came to, if you come to Vegas, bro,

have you met him? I'll fucking, I'll go to wherever he's at to introduce myself. The level of respect I got for him, but I was out this world. So, yeah, I would love to have Tom Brady. But we'll see. I don't know what's going to happen. But I've only met him when I played him two years ago.

It was the COVID year. And he was on the field. We played in Vegas, empty-ass stadium. We come in for pregame. And I always, like, early on in my career, I'd always, like, kind of walk around the field. And it was, like, a part of my routine in, like, my full, like, pregame outfit, like, just my fit.

And I'm walking by myself, going around, and then fucking Brady walks out of the locker and by himself. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I felt it. Yeah. I felt the aura. And I've seen him. We didn't say anything to each other at the time, whatever.

I was just walking doing my thing. He's walking. He's just kind of looking around, looking at the stadium, which is, in hindsight, it's kind of crazy. You know, it's just plodding out his next team. But, yeah. But anyway, so I talked to him after the game. He's, you know, obviously he's a great dude. He was super cool.

but yeah, bro, I would love, obviously, I would love that Tom Brady. He's a goat. He is the goat. Dude. Very few people you ever meet in your life have that kind of aura. Yeah, it's different, bro. But everyone I've met who has met Tom is like, dude, it was like a glow behind him. It's different, bro.

Yeah. He's like too handsome. Yeah. He's too handsome. I feel like he's had something done. Oh, yeah. But he had a classy amount. Like, he doesn't look like he's, like, you know my mangus Botox.

Like, it's, you know, them teeth ain't real. No. but I think he's done a classy amount of work. A high-class amount. He doesn't get like filler and stuff and like all, you know what I'm saying? I would like to know what's happening with his cheeks. Like what's going down with the cheeks? Yeah, you see Staffey baby?

Oh, no. With them. Yeah, I'm not going to even do it. He says some shit I can't say. But yeah, dude, he does because you look at pictures of him, and I hope on this YouTube right now we're flashing a picture of Tom from his book of here. Because my God. He had that rounded out face.

No cheekbones. No, it's different. Yeah, bro, he's different now. Bro, he's like 47. He's like 47. Dude. He's not 47. He's getting younger.

On the, uh, do you think he still got it? Sorry, I hate to cut you off. I know you probably, you're pivoting, but do you think Tom still has it? Absolutely.

I love that. I agree with you 100%. Absolutely. I hate when people... You think so? I mean, he's like mid-40s. It doesn't matter. They said that when he was 40.

You know, he's 46 now. Look how they got into the playoffs, bro. He was supposed. snapping and having comeback games he threw for 400 yards just two weeks ago they had a lot of injuries bro get receipts they had bro i watched football and tom could still play he's good they're their whole line was getting murdered this year and that's just out of respect they were the i think they were ranked last in the league like he was getting hit all the time they had a lot of injuries their backs were hurt like they had a lot of shit going on but it's funny you look back you see

what he did his last year in new england when y'all beat him he everyone said the same thing Oh, he's done, he's washed, he's done. And this is, I look at it, like, and I'm, you know, I like to write that little story. It's like, oh, well, it's going to be his last hooprata, you know, two, three-year deal, knew it, you know, in Las Vegas, Venezuela, go get a ring, be with the boys. He knows the GM, he knows the C.

It's just, come on, let's be real. Yeah, I tell you. And you got studs on offense, too. Do you get a line? Our old line was played a lot better than people expected this year. That's awesome. They did really well, well. led the league and rushing.

Josh led him rushing. Snapped. Chip on his shoulder. Devante went for over 1,500. We have Colt Miller, one of the best left tackles in the league. We got a lot of, bro, we got, we got a lot of tall guys for sure.

Do you think, what do you think, Josh Jacobs' future is with the Raiders right now? Because he's about to be a free agent? He's free agent, yeah. So I know for a fact that the coaches love him. Obviously, when they first came, we had three first round picks from my class.

it was Clee, Josh, and John Abram, and before the year, they declined all their fifth year options. So everyone's like, oh, fuck. You know how they are in New England. They don't value the running back, boom, boom, boom, boom. From my perspective, I know Josh. Like, me and Josh have been boys since I got there. And Josh is one of those people that, like, he need, like,

I feel like he needs that little extra motivation. Like, oh, you don't, okay. I remember exactly what you said. He's going to make you look dumb. And that's what I feel like this year was. Like everyone was saying, oh, it's New England. They don't value running backs the same. They'll just bring him in.

Josh literally was the best running back in the league this year, and you can't even argue it. Every category, yards per carry, broken tackles, amount of first-downs run, like he did everything. And so I'm extremely proud of him, obviously being one of my boys, but I think he's going to stay here, bro. And no matter, I don't know what that's going to look like, like if they tag or try to sign an extension, but I think he's 1,000% earned an extension.

Like the dude has been a pro-bler. I think this is third time now in four years. So like he's the dude is a dog. He's an absolute dog. You know, Josh, the shit he plays through, he's always banged up. And he's always about like, you know, I remember when we got our assail from the Chiefs.

Yeah. And he was so pissed about him fumbling, like early in the game. And just like, man, on the outside looking in, what do you feel like it is i'm like i just fucking got it like we just got our ass what type of deal but he's very much like in it he loves football yeah he loves ball that's what i talk about the guys like that the devontes we need guys that have that mindset no matter what the town level the duran harmon's the dude who really love football that's what you need in the building and josh is 100% that guy uh talking back just for a second on the on the dc situation was there ever a time

where you're like fuck man because there is there is a lot uh you know that, like, I think it was a statistic that was out there that the Raiders had been ranked like bottom-tier defense since he's been a quarterback. Do you, like, ever sit there? You're like, fuck, man. Like, you put a little bit on yourself. Obviously, you ultimately don't or you can't,

but you're just like, fuck if we could have just... Honestly, bro, I don't know how to answer that. You know what I mean? Early in his career, like, their defense is like bottom defense every year. Like, we haven't been the worst of the worst, but we haven't been great. but also you just look at it we've had three different D-coordinators in the last three years so like I think stability is a big thing as well and that's something you know having pat

graham back next year for the second year I feel like we're only going to get better and you know having Josh back like everybody if it immediately doesn't work they're like fuck it fire everyone vote that's the outside world and that's just you know that's natural because you see other coaches like dayball comes in boom giants playoffs will already want a playoff game like oh fuck why aren't we doing that he gets josh automatically gets compared to yeah immediately compare but every situation is different and so you know it is what it is you know as from the fans perspective it's like what the fuck fuck to him we're firing him that's how they think about every coach if you don't succeed right away but you know i feel like josh is doing the right thing it's just

going to take time for sure and i feel like we're you know we're going the right direction are you the were you the biggest provol snub in the league the pro ball. Or all pro. My fault. But the all pro. Woof. My fault.

That was tough. That was tough. My phone. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.

Hang on. Were you the biggest all pro snub in the league? That's not me to decide, but. You're a competitive motherfucker. Do you like? No. No. It's, that shit pissed me on.

I saw like you vocalize it a little bit or enough to be like, hey, this is a receipt I'm keeping. Yeah, for sure. But it's like anything else, bro. When I look at it, you know, you have this own story in your head boom this is how it's gonna go i want this i want this i'm gonna get this like this year bro if i look at like i made all pro last year a second team all pro i had eight sacks but i had a hundred plus pressures boom whatever and that was like you know from the outside

world everyone's like oh it was a fucking flash in the pan you're just doing it because it was a contract you needed to get a contract like i heard that shit all off season like okay it was like this big story book max told everybody about his sobriety story like it was just like people that's everyone had like oh it's just too good to be you true. That was his year. But like people, I feel like people in the outside world didn't truly respect me, like, fully as like a Miles Garrett or T.J. Watts, because, you know, they're all first round picks. They're all top ten guys. They're all consistently ballers. Like, so for me, going into this year,

like, my attitude was like, fuck that. Like, I'm, I'm that guy. Like, I'm going to be that guy. I'm going to be, because I'm always compared ever since Kalil Mack left, like, everyone talks about how the Raiders been missing a pass rush or missing Kalil Mack. We haven't recovered from Kaleel McLeaveen. And that's like something I take super serious, bro. Like, and I take offense to that shit. Like, but in a good way, I let it use it as motivation. And so, like, in my storybook, like, I have a lot of things that I want to do.

And going into this year, like, all right, how am I going to do better? How am I going to do better than second team all pro? Okay, I want to be first team all pro. I want to do, there's a lot of things, but I'm not like a big, like, number. I don't put a number on anything. Like, I'm going to get this amount of sacks, this amount of blah, blah, blah. For me, it's like, I'm going to fucking. improve. Well, whatever that looks like, I'm going to improve as a player and take it to a

whole other step. And I've, just from a film perspective, from a stat perspective, I did that in literally every facet. I have more, I brought, I led the team in tackles at the end. I have fucking 89 tackles. Like, I had 22 TFLs I led the league. I had 12 and a half sacks. It was like tied six. I have pressures. I was top three in the league. Like every category, like I took big strides. And for me, in my head, like my perfect story is, boom, I'm gonna start in the Pro Bowl again.

I got that. The last thing was all pro, and I'm waiting. I'm like, boom, I can't wait. And then all of a sudden, I look at the list, I'm like, what?

And like, I was shook, bro. Like, I was hurt. Like, you know what I mean? Deep down, like, that shit hurt my pride. I'm like, what the fuck? I got better, bro. I know I got better. And I didn't make it.

And that's like, that's the thing. in my perspective in my world like I wanted that was the final thing that I fucking wanted on this season you know we didn't make the playoffs

I knew we weren't making the playoffs like just from my personal goals and then I didn't get that and I'm like all right motherfuckers like the season went great but I'm not doing enough that's just the way I took it

and I know I got better like you almost forgot yeah but at the same time like yeah like I know I got better my goal was to get better I did, bro, everything in my power all fucking offseason. I did everything right. And then that was the last thing that I wanted.

And boom, I didn't get it. And so for me, I could sit there and bitch and go on Twitter. Fuck, that is bullshit. You know, you see guys all the time bitching about the show. You see just a couple games ago when a fucking dude had a meltdown and blaming the refs. And I see dudes blame it. Well, fucking O'Lignment hold all the time. Ruffs don't call it.

Like, I'll never be that guy, bro. I think that's, you know, shit like that. is so weak to me. Like, you're going to get held. Like, I know I get held all the time. You watch the Rams last drive against us where I was getting literally tackled. But I'm not going to go and double down and go look like a little fucking cry baby. You know what I mean?

That's not me. So at the end of the day, like the last thing I wanted was to get that all pro. But I know at the end of the day, like, I'm going to look back next year when I do everything I would set out to do and be like, yeah, the shit was for a reason. I needed that little, that little thing that's going to fucking push. me to do that extra little rap, the extra little shit. And it is what it is. Like, that shit pisses me. Like, it really hurt me.

You see him here. Hey, Dave, don't you like that? You know, that's kind of not for me to decide. He's like, hey, come on now. He's like, man, I'm fucking. Bro, that shit, yeah. I'm going to let you all know, bro. I'm not like that, but fuck that shit, dude.

No, like, I get it. It is what it is. And I can't do anything. Like, in my young self, like, I thought the same thing. Like, my rookie, when I was going, my rookie year, like, I thought I was going to win rookie of the year. I thought I should have won it. I didn't. But that helped me the next year. It's always something that every player needs that little extra motivation. And like, I can't control that. But at the end of the day, bro, I know, like,

it's all going to pay off. Like, it's all going to, I don't need to force it and talk on Twitter and do all this extra shit and complain. And what is that going to do for me, bro? It's going to make me look like an ass if I go next year and don't play as well. You know what I mean? Like, I'm going to do everything I can to be better than I was. This. here and that's that's what's going to push me so yeah it is what it is what is so if you're looking at it now like I was snubbed that pissed you off and I think that I got to work harder and do what are things little minor critiques you make to your offseason training regimen that might get you that all pro um I honestly I think that that's something I'm looking at right now before I start training

again yeah before I start training again I do it every year um especially these last two years is you train here Yeah, I train in Vegas. Yeah. Do you train the facility? Facility. Okay. So, yeah, that's something I'm evaluating right now.

Sorry, he's like, he hears my mouth in the microphone. Dude, we'll, bro. Anytime someone goes and starts talking, he opens his mouth like that. Shit's going on up, up, up top. And he's juicing me up, I can't. Put your lips together. You know what I mean? I'm just like, that's just me taking it in, I guess.

I can't fucking help. You say, you say. I got me I'm fucking fired up You know it was like a hype little deal right there Someone needs to cut that And put that a bunch of music behind this Spartan music yeah

It's like Drake dude I had somebody tell me I fell off Ooh I needed that Yeah I needed it But that's yeah For me like my routine That's something I'm a breakdown Like I've already talked to the strength staff

The nutritionist We've already sat down and boom This is what we're gonna do Little adjustments where I can You know improve on but it's not the work ethic part of it. Bro, I put in, I know I work fucking extremely hard. It's just about how can I make it a little bit better?

What can I do a little bit smarter? A little shit like that. And so like this second year, like going into my third year, there was a lot of big adjustments I had to make. And I felt like I took another big step. Like I added boxing into my off days instead of just doing strictly tubs and chilling. Like I added an hour boxing in that.

So there's something, you know, there's always going to be little shit. Like, I'm starting, I'm going to add yoga this offseason. Like, just adding a little shit. But, you know, I don't know everything yet, but just try to take that next big step. Because I know in this league, bro, like, if the biggest thing is the guys that continue to do it, and you know this fucking well being a pro boy doing it over and over, like, you either get worse or you get better. And, like, there's no in between.

You don't just stay the same. You don't, like, for me, it's, I can't, like, I can't even, I don't even know what life look like just in my brain if I didn't do all the things I was doing out. Like if I could just chill this off season, like some, a lot of guys do it. They're fucking chilling. And, and just take a step back. Like, I can't even sit. Like, I have to take this time off to just let my body rest.

But I'm still meal prep and stretching, Norma Tech and every day. Like, I have to do it for my own sanity. So, like, that's what it is for me, bro. Just taking that next step. I'm fucking, like, obsessed with the process because I know where I want to go. and I can't do it any other way. So I'm just fine-tuning everything, and we'll see what we got on the agenda this off-season.

That addiction becomes a superpower. Oh, yeah. It's real shit. This is an outstanding first impression for me with you. I'm very impressed. I'm glad you guys are finally meeting, too. It is crazy because I'm like, damn, I thought, I guess you guys haven't met each other.

Yeah, it's just crazy. Because when I saw you, you were waiting for us outside, which was a very kind of you, by the way, to wait for us. Of course. when we were pulling up. Next to the Rolls. I was like, oh, there's the boy. Like, I literally feel like we've met before.

100% and hung out. So this has been, and it's cool to see your mindset because you've got it, bud. I appreciate it. You got it. Everything but being white, like everything's going for you. That means a lot, bro. Taylor knows when I got to Oakland

and my boy checked in on me after my first day of school with the Raiders. And I was like, hey, somebody on the squad is like a fan of busing with the boys. I was like, it's Max Crosby. You weren't who you are now, Like, I don't know. Now looking back, that's fucking cool.

Yeah, it was cool. That's crazy. It was cool because when you went to... You like, hey, you're like, he's like telling something. He goes, no, this man's famous. I'm just kind of sitting there, like, nervous. Like, you know, first day in the video. Yeah.

Oh, you think there's somebody, huh? He's like, no, I'll rock with bustling with the boys. I'm like, yo, let's fucking go. That's a hilarious contrast to you going up to well being like, hey, I fuck with you guys. And then Richie incognito up being like, oh, I do bustling with the boys. Oh, I do bustling me. Just bullying. Yeah, bullying.

Yeah. He's just you fucking bully me. Bullion. What was it like playing with Richie? Shit, I love Richie. He's one of my favorite teammates I've ever had. The dude is he, like, you talk about work ethic. That motherfucker works, bro.

And like, the way he took care of his body, how massive he is and playing 15 years. Wide body. Bro, a fucking semi-struck. And he looks like he's 16 years old in the face. He's no stress. Like, he just, a dude is different. He's bent through a lot of shit and, like, just being around him. and getting to, you know, become closer with him.

Like, he was truly one of the best teammates I had. Like, take me under the wing, like, type of dude. Like, he was exactly that guy. Like, for some reason, when I first got there, like, we practiced, you know, we start practicing doing OTAs together. And, like, we started to, like, become boys because I'm fucked up in the head. Like, he is, like, I'm practicing hard as fuck. Like, we're not even in pads.

And, you know, I'm a rookie. I'm just trying to make an impression. And, like, I'm flying around the field. And for some reason, like, Richie, obviously is he's paying, he's paying attention a little bit seeing how I do shit and like he just we immediately clicked because he respected it just how I did shit and ever since then bro we became boys and I still like when he retired I went up and seen him like on his retirement and like me and him have always you know been really cool and he goes to all the freaking games I'll be on the sideline about to walk the game's about to start he'll be in there in a

polo back and fucking grab me give me a biggest hug in the planet and fucking throw my rib out because he squeezes the life out of me but he's yeah he I fucking I can go on and out about Richie, bro. He's a loyal, die-hard, just like real, real bro. A healthy, a healthy Richie is like one of the best friends to have. No, literally, bro. He is an incredible human being. Absolutely. What a massive fucking dog. He's a big boy.

Now he stood up and everybody can see him too. Everybody's like, holy shit. He literally, he like, take my life any second. Oh, anytime you wanted. Max, I like, I came in the house. Before I came in the house and Max is like, hey, just walk straight. Don't really, don't look down. I don't make any facial expressions. and I'm just kind of like walking the house

and Max just starts laughing. He's like, yo, he's not going to do nothing. But the dude's fucking massive. Hey, watch the wires. Watch the wires, Dirk. There it go, buddy. He's just gonna, he'll be fine. He'll stand there for like five minutes.

He was assessing the situation before he came over here. He doesn't want to fuck shit up. Careful, dog. Should you do Tear Talk? Yeah, do we have? Let's take a quick pause. And then we'll come back to Tier Talk. Yeah.

All right. So for Tier Talk this week, we are going to do best. dog breeds. And I feel like best and favorite. There's a great line there because I'm sure you can look at the best dogs and it's probably not going to equal that with us. We'll say our favorite dog breeds

for our tier talk. Do you want to go first? Do you want me to go first? I can go first. No honorable mentions. My tier three is going to be Rottweiler. With a dog growing up, my parents first dog before they had me.

You know how parents do the trial run. Like, well, let's do a dog. We can take care of a dog. we can take care of a baby type thing. They had a Rottweiler named Conan, after Conan the Barbarian. They had him trained all the way up to, like he could have been like some kind of,

like the police style training dog, but he would have had to leave for like three months, but a very well-trained Rottweiler. And so ever since, like growing up with Conan, it was like I loved Rottweilers. My tier two, what I currently have, Waffle, English Bulldogs. They're just so like unique to me.

dude and like you come home they don't greet you they stay on the couch you go and like you have to go give them love they kind of just look sad and like but they love you they all they want to do is cuddle they got a couple issues yeah but all and all like i love english bulldogs my buddies would have would have them when i was growing up and i'd go to their house and i love playing with them and then rob uh rob dear dick on uh fantasy factor and everything when they had that dog and it was skateboard and everything else i just always saw it was the fucking coolest uh my tier one pit bulls. I know it's,

I know you love pits as well. I think pit bulls are fucking awesome. Yeah. I used to have, I used to have a pit named Boogie. I named my dog Boogie after Levanti David. Levante David's nickname in college was Boogie.

A little horny boy. And so I told, I told Boogie, I said, when I get my first dog, it's going to be a pit and I'm going to name him after you. So that's my story about having my pit. Then, you know, my girlfriend and I broke up out of, you know, guilt.

like you can have yeah we can You don't got to get it Yeah we can cut that part out But um Did uh Pit Bulls did Pibbles did Pibbles I think I think they're fucking awesome Is he's boogie?

Uh no No If you guys hear a baby That's Max's newborn She's a stud She's trying to get some time in on the pod You gotta respect it Gotta respect that

Yeah she likes to touch But um But that's my tier talk Now what the rule is You go around the room And everybody gives a one word answer on how they feel like your tear dog went, kind of like a judgment thing.

Okay, I'll let Taylor start this. Diseased. Jesus. Not a fan of Pitts. Magnificent. Fun contrast there. JP, what was your word be? I'll go ahead and echo it.

Swole. Mitch? Almost. Do you want to go or you want me to go next? I'll go. All right, go home, Bob. I'll go. Tier three.

I'm going to start off a little curveball. You know, the only dogs I've ever had are pits. My parents, they own little yappy little fuckers. I love them, but I never claimed them. I'm going to start Tier 3 with Dobermans. And the reason why is because they're excellent athletes. They're fucking terrifying. And there's something about them.

Every time I see a Doberman, you get a little, like you don't know what's going to happen. Is he going to kill me? Is he going to kill me? Or is he like, I want this dude by my side? Yeah. So every time I see a Doberman, I just have a level of respect for the dog that I felt like it needed to make the list because, you know, they're not loved on enough, I feel like. And they're feared in a way. But I respect them.

Tier 2. I'm going to have to go with Rottweilers. My teammates in college, a ton of them had Rottweilers. Cleve Farrell, he's got a Rottweiler, great dog. Super loyal. Big-ass Teddy Bear. but if they need to get the job done they'll get the job done.

So I respect the shit out of them as well. But number one, unanimous decision, pit bulls. I got three best dogs on the planet. They're loving. They're loyal as fuck.

But they will take you down if you cross the line. And that's the thing with them. Especially that big motherfucker. Yeah. My big guy, he's two pit bulls and one. Is he known like an X-L? He's an X-L.

So he's a pit and a American Bulldog. The other two are pit mixes. Yeah, so yeah, the thing with pits, bro, like they're super loyal, but they're big babies at the end of the day. Like, if they love you, they're going to just lay out, like they act like they're human in the house. And every time I come home, the response is always the same. So I respect their consistency.

I expect that they got the grit and they're dangerous enough for people, have a little bit of fear when they try to cross the line, but they'll always be there for you. So big shout out to pit bulls all around the world. Gritty. Yes. JP? Dominant. Dominant for JP.

Mitch? Tough. Alpha. Speaking of, dude, I wish the camera can catch that. Look at that. Man, did you try to rob this place and that dog's right there? Come here, Dirk. Dirk, come here.

All right. comes. That was the most Dan Campbell four answers I've ever heard in my life. Yeah. Grit, tough. Chevy Tahoe. You should just said Dan Campbell. We could have just said Silverado.

That would have been all. All right. My tear talk. Bro, he just walks loud. He's heavy. Yeah. All three of my tears are pit bulls. Okay, let's see. By tier three,

I grew up on a ranch in Arizona Every cowboy had this dog And it was the blue healer Those dogs would work cows They'd work with horses They'd work with sheep They do the job that needed to get done The reason why they're not higher on my list

Is because they are a rambunctious, energetic And if they're not trained properly They will absolutely ankle bite Any visitor at all times I love the way they look I love the way they get after it And they're hardworking just like the Chevy Silverado And that's what they must be in my life

list. I love that. That is my tier three. Taylor, I don't want to cut you off. But those blue healers look very similar to like German Shepherds, but they're kind of smaller,

right? Or am I completely chrater? Dirk is getting the business out there. They're shorter. They're like, they're shorter-haired. It's hard to explain, like any movie you've seen with a cowboy in it.

Smart dog. That's okay. Yeah, extremely smart and we'll go all day. Like, they'll go and work all day for you. But if you want to own one, you got to like,

you got to have some wide open spaces from the run. Yeah. my tier two this dog would have never made my list until I met my wife she has this dog I think I didn't know what to think of them

I thought they were beautiful majestic I thought scenery like up in the mountains with the snow I'm like wow what a beautiful dog but I don't think I'll ever own this one this dog is going to be the husky Siberian husky they shed like shit but my wife's dog Akira

does getting pets from hers like pickles on a sandwich she'll take them or leave them it doesn't really matter to her She hangs out, she does her thing. She's the most low-maintenance dog in the world, and it's completely changed my views on huskies. I think they're an incredible species of animal, extremely smart and very vocal.

And my tier one goes out to the greatest dog you could possibly get. When you go down to a humane society and you look around those little crates and gates and you see dogs staring at you, it's not just one type of dog. It's a whole bunch of types of dogs. And when you take a cocktail combination of animals and you put them together,

most of the time you're going to get the best combo possible. So my tier one is the mutt. The mix of all those animals, you put them together, they look funny most of the time, they are funny most of the time, and they usually have the best personalities. So the mutt, those pound puppies, are my tier one. Sure.

Unique. J.P. said politically correct. What do you mean? Why did you talk about the chihuah? I've never owned the number one. The gods here. The Lord is the true number one. Why not honorable mention it?

You love the chihuahua. I had him in there, but he's right. That's why I got a little up in arms as I thought, damn, I'm going to get it. I don't think I'm ready to take this right now. I'm not ready to take these hands on the internet. But I do love the chihuahua. I think the chihuahua.

is fucking hilarious. When I was a little kid and I would see the Ticarotapo bell dog ripping around the little short hair brown fellas I would always think to myself someday I'm gonna have this dog and I would have little matching outfits

maybe cool little glasses little chill boys hanging out now I have a stipulation for these dogs that I'm going to get someday I will own a chihuahua someday I have to make sure this has got to be an anomaly of a chihuahua it can't bark

and it can't bite other than that dude they're chill boys and they're outstanding. Maybe you should we do your one word. Boy's going to have a muzzled chihuahua. I'm not going to stereotype, but every chihuahua I've met

is the meanest fucking dog I've ever met my life. Number two in dog attacks. Yeah. So the chihuahua is the right number two of all dogs and attacks. Wow. That's, that's, wow. You want to redo your one word?

No, no. If you were going to have chihuahua, I was going to have high maintenance. It's suss. I know who I am. Anyways. Wow. Well, boys and girls, that is it a way to end of the episode.

Yeah. Shout out your Wawa. Is there anything else we got for Maxi? I don't think so. Were you guys listening throughout the episode and was intrigued to get a question out? I'd go further into anything he was saying. Mitch loves ball, so I'm kind of looking at Mitch.

I feel like he was getting a boner over there listening to you. Talk about fucking work ethic and shit. I love it. Our ESPN reporter, Mitch, wants to know what Devante Adams brings to a team. Devante Adams. The thing with him, like, I've been, you know,

you were there with the whole AB saga. Well, you came after. I came right after, but it was that same year. Yeah, it was that same year. So that was the first superstar receiver I ever dealt with. So I'm like, okay, this is, you know, you hear their divas.

So I got to experience that whole thing. So my first, like, initial thought was like, okay, I've heard nothing but good things about Devante. Like, just from the outside world. Like, you don't hear him talking, like, I'm the best, blah, blah, blah. Like, on the outside, he's not, he's never been that guy. So when he was coming, I was kind of, I didn't know what to expect.

I didn't know if he was, you know, what he was like, whatever. Get another A-B. Yeah, like, maybe another fucking diva. Like, that's not the guy you want in the locker room, regardless. And the day he came in there, bro, like, when I talk about everything I talked about, like a teammate you want, a dude who fucking practices the right way, fucking trains the right way. every single day he's that guy, bro. And he's one of the most humble dudes,

but extremely confident at the same time. He's not arrogant, he's not that, but he knows who he is. You know what I mean? And that's the level of confidence that a lot of guys can't get to because when you talk about Devante Adams, just immediately, oh, he's best receiver in the league.

Like, he's always in that conversation. So he's just a great teammate, bro, and he's awesome. Like, just being around him, I fucking love Devante. Like, he, I don't know, I don't know what to explain to bro. he's unique he's super fucking smart like he's just a different type of dude and you could tell like

there's a reason why he's different you know what i mean just the way he plays bro he has no fear he knows he's the guy and like he loves football and that's that's really all you can say about him bro he's i can go on and on but he's a he's a great teammate bro i love him to death and i've only known him for a year bro i fucking i've talked to him all the time like it's not like you know most locker rooms like sometimes you just talk to your d-line guys and stuff like that like Devante's one of those guys like he's one of my one of the best teammates on the team I talk to him all the time he's a captain he's just uh yeah he's a total package that's fucking dumb yeah he's a stud bro i fucking love that dude

he's a stud good question good work mitchie yeah oh shot slight shot that's okay that's okay damn Mitch we're always looking to improve we're gonna mine so yeah yeah if you can hear that in the background right now Durk is chugging. Yeah, he doesn't take in a single breath. He's getting after it, dude. On that, I totally forgot about the AB thing. As a rookie, what was that experience like for you?

Was it as bad as it seemed? Yeah, I bet that was wild. Yeah, like, I don't know what to explain it. So when I first came in, boom, I got drafted by the Raiders, we signed, like, we had signed AB, Richie, Vontes Burfick. like we like every big like you think about the craziest motherfucker they were all on our team so I didn't know what to expect the AB shit like AB is a person like if you

if AB sat here with us right now and you genuinely like it's just us in the room no cameras nothing you would love AB he would love AB you'd be like he's down to earth he's a great dude but the second he left the building bro you didn't know what the fuck was about to happen it was every day bro he would go what's up man hey man what up man Eastern Michigan blah blah. I played, you know, he played a central. Like, that was like my end with him.

That was a rookie. I'm like, I want to be cool with that. And so we were cool. But like, you would go home and all of a sudden there's something on Instagram. And then like as a shit started getting crazy because he came in, he burned his feet off. And then he had the helmet shit. So he was never practicing. He never was around the off season. We're like, what the fuck is going on?

He would show up here and there. But like, we would like a camera crew and shit. Like all this boys. He would bring a posse with him everywhere to the facility. This locker room, yeah, in the facility. It was kind of like a high schoolish, like you had some aisles, but not a lot of room in the facility locker room.

Like he had his own posse. So it was like, in the weight room, he had his own trainers come. So it was just a lot, bro. But you would never, like, if you just sat there, like, he really is like, he's not, I don't, I don't know, he's got his own shit. He's got to deal with, you know what I mean?

There's a lot of shit that's going on. But like, my experience, one-on-one with him, outside of the media, outside of that shit, like he was cool as fuck. But I don't know. He's got a lot of shit going on. But like, Vantes, like, Vantes, you would think about Vantes Bufie.

You're like, oh, my God. That's a fucking murderer. Right. He's the fucking coolest dude, bro. Like, coolest shit. He came right out to me. Like, at first I was terrified. I'm like, okay, this Vontas Burfick.

That's a bad motherfucker. Oh, yeah. I was, you know, I'm going to try to earn that respect. Like, I didn't even know how to talk to him at first. He was cool as shit. Great leader. like great dude in the locker like everyone fucked with him

and he was a real leader um he was dope and then richie's the same thing like obviously rich he's had his shit too like he's gone through a lot of shit but richie's a fucking great teammate so yeah my whole experience with everybody like you would think from the outside

it was like oh my god but like inside the building like ab was gone before the season like we were just waiting like okay is a be even gonna play like there was something after there's just always something and then he leaked like gruden's call on the fucking Instagram.

Bro, literally after he came up and talked to the whole team. He came up, bro. All the captains went up there. A.B. walked up on the stage. He apologized. We're like, all right, bet. So we're like, okay, he's about to play.

Like, fuck yeah. A.B.'s on board now. So everyone's excited. Bro, that night he posted the shit with Gruden and how, you know what? That is fucking wild, bro. The same day. And I'm a rookie,

me and clear, tell you, like, bro, what? He literally just talked about this shit He's like, I'm done with the games, man I apologize. Everyone's like, oh, fuck it, bro. Like, we get it. Like, everybody goes through shit.

So, like, I'm, that's, from my personal. Bro, I always give people the benefit of the doubt. So, like, I, this is A.B. Bro, like, he's going through his shit. But like, he wants to play. Everything seems 100% genuine, boom, boom, boom. Literally that night he puts on Instagram. Like, the whole Grood and shit, everything just like,

I'm like, what? And then by the next morning, he was cut. Me and Clear, in the. building, Mayock's walking up through the hallway with a smile. Because Mayok had to deal with all this shit. And Mayok really wanted him to be a part of it. Gruden, they fucking, they wanted to love him.

But like, there was more to it. You know what I mean? He was going. I don't know what he was going through. But like, and I pray for dudes like that. I don't know what he's going on upstairs. Like, it's tough. But yeah, like people were like,

it was like a breath of fresh air, bro. It was something every single day. And he was supposed to be our franchise guy. Yeah. Like we're bringing AB to fucking Los Vegas. Like the best. Bro, the best. He was so fucking cold.

I'm like, he's my team, bro. He's the coldest. And they said like when he's out on the practice field, like that motherfucker is running all day long. Running. And trying to do extra after. Like it just, it just seems like a bizarre. I've never seen anything like it. Was there ever a weird dynamic between Bontes Burrific and A.B?

Not at all. Really? Boys. You would think because he fucking executed him on the cloud. That's like everyone's like, though too. It's like AB was never the same after that hit. That's what people say. Yeah, they're like, oh, he got CT from that.

You know, everyone, that's what they're saying. Yeah, yeah, everybody does say that. Oh, they must fucking not, bro, when they came in the fucking locker room, bro, everybody was, everybody was cool as shit. Like, Vantes and him were boy. Like, it was no, there was no friction at all. Richie and A.B. were boys. Like, it was, when we were all just together as boy, like, as teammates, there was no issues.

But it's just, there was a bunch of shit going on in the outside. And it just, you look back. You're like, damn, what if? But you'll never know. Right. It's crazy, bro. Like, we've had A-B. We kind of had A-B.

Now we have Devante. Like, we've had some guys come in. It's just... Some cats. Crazy, bro. Some dudes. Dude, we appreciate you, man. This has been fucking phenomenal.

This has been a phenomenal episode. Yes, I've had a blast. I'm glad you guys got to come to the crib. Meet the dogs. The whole Shabam. It's been out of feeling. It was amazing. Some wing stop, some pizza.

You know how those, too. Yeah, wing stop pizza, waters. The boys. It's, you know, normal guests. It was a little intimidating pulling up. up and seeing what you got sitting outside. You like that? Yeah, it was nice.

Thank you. That was all, it seemed like it was perfectly manicured for that. Yeah, he's like, all the boys are coming down. He said,

yeah, my Porsche, my Rolls voice. Yeah, that's perfect. Like an episode of MTV Cribs. But it really was. Absolutely.

Yeah, you've earned it. And you're wearing the chain. And look at the wrists. Both of them. A little something. A little something. How many are you going to do a full body suit tattoo?

What are we talking about here? I want to get my chest. My upper back and my, like, I want to get my whole, like, torso down this off season. Hell yeah. My guy is moving to Vegas. He's from Boston. So, like, I usually only get to see him like once in off season, and we just knock shit out. But he's moving here in March, so we might get some action.

Yeah, get it right. Yeah, I'm trying to get like you. You got all type of shit. Yeah, we're covered up a little bit. I got work to do still. Yeah, for sure. There's work out there for you. Yeah, my legs, but my leg, I haven't even got back to him.

You have to see his chest. He's got a fucking cool little, uh, the bag on there. Yeah. Stag. I'm starting to have most of my torso done. I need to, there's a couple more pieces right here, but I have my whole back done. I need to get like a couple places.

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