Bussin' With The Boys - Michael Chandler Talks About Dustin Poirier Fight & Being Next In Line For Conor McGregor

Episode Date: November 15, 2022

Recorded: November 14, 2022 | It hasn't even been two days since Michael Chandler and Dustin Poirier's WAR at UFC 281 and the boy Mike is already back in Nashville & back on the bus!! During this conversation the boys dig deep into the mental side of Mike's fight, if he would have done anything different, how he keeps perspective, and if Conor McGregor is next. Watching Mike in Madison Square Garden was nice but it is even better watching him on the bus for another awesome episode. Before the interview starts the Will and Taylor recap the Bussin' Bowl Weekend where we saw Jim Harbaugh and Michigan take home the first ever Bussin' Bowl Trophy (s/o Duke Cannon). The boys also recap all of the latest NFL headlines game from the weekend. Like, subscribe, rate 5 stars then go tell 5 other people to do the same! Intro (0:00) Bussin Bowl recap (2:00) NFL recap (11:00) Tier Talk (38:00) Michael Chandler Interview starts (51:30) ---- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ---- Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Rhoback: Go to https://barstool.link/RhobackBSS and use the code “BOYS” for 20% off your first purchase! Georgia Boots: Go to https://barstool.link/GeorgiaBoot and use code BUSSIN for 20% off WhistlePig: Buy our WhistlePig Bussin’ With the Boys Bourbon Whiskey at https://barstool.link/BWTBWP Gametime: Download the Gametime app at https://barstool.link/GametimeApp and redeem code BUSSIN for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply). Ridge Wallet: Go to https://barstool.link/RidgeBWTB to save up to 40% off through December 22nd.For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I don't know why you guys didn't start clapping. That is on. JP, what dipping sauce? Honey mustard? Joe was on this. It's fire. I know you're 10's on right now, but Bojangles.

But you can pause. Yeah, as you guys wanted about in the episode, you can pause. Yeah. Now, I got a question about this episode. Is this Jared Allen and Michael Chandler? Or is this just Michael Chandler?

Michael Chandler. Just Michael Chandler. Michael Chandler. I love that. I absolutely love that. Weekend update. Boys, we lived like we were back in college. It was an outstanding.

It was an outstanding time. The boys went to Ann Arbor. I thought we were staying on campus. was a bit of a bummer. We had to ride through some adversity here and there. In the beginning, even before we got in the flight, there was a touch of adversity. We worked through that. Overall, the vibes this entire weekend was absolutely

incredible. We went to Rick's American Cafe, and it was around 11th. This is the staple of our Friday night. We went to a Rick's American Cafe, and it's like 1130, and we knew we had a big day ahead of us. And Will leans to me and goes, hey, man, some guy just offered me something called cheese. Is that weed?

I go, buddy, he's talking about Coke. We need to get out of here. we should probably go walk outside the place. This is where I want to give my flowers to Nebraska. That fan base travels so well. For those of you who aren't going to Michigan, the next step is to go to Nebraska because that fan base is so incredible. The NIL deals they're doing there.

It is they were, we walk outside of Ricks and they're literally chanting for the boys or go big red, yelling, fuck you, Taylor. Like, it was a beautiful thing to see. Got arrested by a cop for fun this time. Nebraska travels well, bro. They travel well. They were deep in, in Ann Arbor.

Yeah. Like in each bar, like standing outside, wrapped around. I mean, it was, that was the only W we kind of took all weekend. Yeah, you guys traveled. You had a great time in Ann Arbor. Yeah.

Two great colleges, two great college towns, coming together, battling it over the bus. Yeah, and you guys did, like, you guys whooped our ass. It is what it is. We had to battle the elements a little bit. our quarterback got hurt in the second quarter. You can never, you get down to your third string quarterback.

It's kind of tough to overcome that. Yeah. Yeah, that's a tough deal. Michigan, they look good. They do look good. Their defense looks good. The offense is they have a great running game. They're doing for a, I think they take the big 10 this year.

They could. And like you said, like their defense, they're one of the top defenses in the country. And like, the score could have been way worse than it was. Like, they're obviously playing in the elements as well. And so they just basically ran the ball because they never, they were going to beat us, and they're moving the line of scrimmage the entire time. Yeah. bragging about it being against Nebraska. I don't know how much you can do that, but they're like, Michigan looks like a good football team. And Blake Quorum, I can't say enough good things about that fucking stuff. Yeah, and you actually got in his head too. You DM this man. Yeah, I was trying to get in the set early. I didn't know if it'd play against me looking back. It might not have been the best move because he's probably a little extra motivated to shove it in our face because he loves doing the whole eat the corn thing. And then I also, after the game, I was like, yo.

This is in the locker room. Yeah, I was like, did you see me talking shit about you? He was like, oh, no, I don't see that stuff. So I had to take a weird humble pie. Like, okay, you know, you didn't peep that. And then... Weird humble pie. And then what did he say, JPS?

He, like, walked out and faded out of the... Fated out of the locker room and just left me, just put me in a blender and kind of just walked off. He said, oh, yeah, I've been eating corn all my life. Yeah. And it just faded off. He walked away. That was so cool.

He didn't, like, turn and walk out of the locker room. He just continued to, like, shuffle and stay squared up by him. Eye contact the whole time. Eye contact, he goes, I've been eating corn my whole life. and just wasn't even like, he was smiling, but wasn't like trying to be funny. Like, yeah, I fucking got you, bitch. I'm him right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I am. And it was very, it was, it was really cool to see Nebraska, like the Nebraska players, we were on the sideline for the game. All the boys were on the sideline for the game. That was a nice little deal. But seeing the Nebraska fans, like literally, Michigan goes in the tunnel. We go down, and Nebraska's just like about to start coming the tunnel.

We start dapping the boys up. They're all loving on will. They're yelling bust and bull, all this type of stuff. And I had, like, four or five dudes, give me the no thank you, high five. Like, you want. just kidding, you're a loser, Taylor. So the hate was there. Flavor Flay was there?

The love. Out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. It was... It was cool. It was a cool experience. I liked... Pre-gaming before was unreal, too.

We went to the lacrosse house. Shout out the boys of the lacrosse house. Their ratio of men to women was about 17 to 1. But those boys didn't give a shit about nothing. They were kegan. They were having a great time the entire time. Their house... disgusting, dude.

I had to take a shit during that pregame. I literally went and took a shit and I thought, should I even flush this? This kind of goes with like the decor of this home. You know?

I'm mad though. They're like, hey, we got carpet. But the boys in LaCrosshouse, shout out the boys. They reached out to the bussing account and said, you guys got to come here.

It's going to be popping off at 1230. We show up casually late, 1235. It was electric. Then there's some frat party. We literally have to go to the game. And then there's this group of people, this girl with her boyfriend, she's like, we're going to follow some sort of a bunch of words that ended up being a frat.

And we walked like through these alleyways with them. And that place was going crazy to our backyard, like a dirt backyard. Yeah. Front to back. Front to back. But it was awesome. It was a good little college experience. You want to hit those things, right?

You want to get in the tailgating life. You want to sit what the college kids are doing. Yeah. Because you go back and you're like, I want to live like I'm back in college again. And like there's going to be a point where you're too old. too. I know there's some of you out there going to listen to that. You're probably too old now. Yeah. We're doing it being 31 years old. But it was a blast and well received.

We get paid to do it. We get paid to do it. This is alive. You guys have to go to the college parties. We have the best lives of all time. Don't break our arm over this. But to have like, again, we're going to look back one day and know that that weekend started a tradition. That's so cool. How dope is that, man? We had a trophy. We had a 40-pound trophy made. And they're playing for it. It's in a trophy case. I got a text from Zach Zenter to day. Can you send, can you show me right now? I'll show you right now, yeah. Boys are already put it in a trophy case.

After the game, we go into the locker room. And at first there was like, I don't know if we should go in the locker room. Yeah, I was just trying to step on toes. They hooked this up. I was just trying to be cool. You're Taylor Luwan at Michigan. We got to get in there somehow. We go to the locker room and all the boys are stoked about the trophy.

All the position groups are taking photos. Everybody's talking about it. Dudes are talking shit to me. Edwards number seven. He came up. He's like, hey, I told you we were going to get that shit. Just mad. I'm just mad.

He's like, you want to get a photo with? He's like, no, I'm good. I just wanted him to know he was going to take that shit. Dude, hey, hey, Edwards. He's going to have a long NFL career. That dude is about his fucking business. How cool is that photo? It's fucking awesome.

So I texted Abloff and I said, hey, can you have some of your media people? Just press the red button. I was like, hey, can you have some of your media people like take, like, good cameras and get a photo of that? Because I was going to post that before we even came here. We'll have to put it on the YouTube. show him this picture. That's fucking fired. Yeah, it's sick.

I'll send to the group right now. But it goes hard right next to Paul Bunyan trophy, because he's home and the brown jug. Now the goal is we just got to make sure that Sonny, the equipment manager, make sure that a trophy gets to Lincoln next year to be there on the field. I think you need to, that's like step three, probably.

Step one is getting Nebraska to sign off. Well, and the Michigan AD to sign off. Yeah, I'm not even trying to throw shade at Nebraska. Let me just put this down. What happened in Nebraska this year is extremely unfortunate. And for them to have an interim head coach and then go say, okay, we agree to this trophy game. It completely makes sense why they would take a step back from that. I get it.

I think you go in this off season, you make a great hire, get some good recruits, a couple of good transfers. You're starting to feeling really good about your football season coming up. Then they can sit there and say, okay, we'll sign for this. Once they sign, Michigan has already, Michigan has already said, hey, once they sign the papers, we'll sign the papers. like Jim signed it and we'll get the AD to sign it as well. So that's, that's literally the only like piece of the puzzle

we need to make this thing official official. Now, regardless, it's happening again next year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Regardless of what Nebraska decides to do. In September, they play in September next year. I'm stoked about that. Because that cold, buddy.

You already know like, it's going to be a hype train going in the season. I'll lay out what our schedule is going to look like after you get a peek behind the curtain in the springtime. Duff, dove, dove. Looking back, that was a bad move. At the moment, like, can you say we'll believe that or was he being a troll?

There's a big part of me that believed that we were going to be really good this year. Yeah, but hindsight's always 2020. You're right. You're going to have the same energy next year. Yeah. No, you're right. Yeah, this is going to come back. There's nothing to apologize for or feel bad about, like, I'm legit, look like,

like, missions going undefeated. They're going to win the national championship. Yeah, it's just tough when people pull out the receipts on you. Look at what you're saying. You're like, yeah, I do look like a fucking clown. Saying all that. that is hilarious. I am thinking back to when you were going,

you were like pre-capping the entire season or going over the entire season. Pre-viewing the other season. Yeah, what the fuck? Pre-capping. Pre-capping. He was pre-capping that season. Talking crazy, too. Talking crazy.

So the Buston Bowl was extremely successful. That was incredible. NFL. There was not a lot going on, but a dub's a dub. They don't ask how. They ask how many boys. and then Titans rode high on Sunday. That's a perfect Mike Vrable game.

Like they talk about all the inactives. The boys just don't bat an eye. They're like, oh, we prefer to play handicapped. Oh, Simmons is out? Good. Yeah. Oh, Cunningham's out? Good.

It is one of those things, dude. You just kind of, the boys love adversity. I don't get it. I'm terrified for when they have everybody back. I know. Because they thrive on adversity, dude. They absolutely thrive on it. I saw, no, I'm not going to say that.

but it was an electric game. I mean, they're up now. Like, what's the Titans record? Six and three. Six and three. And then... Same as the bills. Wow, that's crazy.

Same as the bills. The playoffs started this week. The Titans would be hosting the bills. The bills, now, we can probably... We can jump on. We can jump off the Titans train. That's six and three is incredible. They won.

Russell Wilson is top five cringiest people that ever walked this earth. Okay? They're not riding. The Vikings bills... The game, the Titans game is ending. I literally look at my phone. Will says, this is like one of the greatest games ever or whatever.

You, whatever you texted. And all the fucking negative vibes, people on Kirk Cousins, they're eating shit right now. He was going off. But Justin Jefferson's catching that game was maybe the greatest catch we've ever seen in our lives. And the first one that comes to my head is Odell's, right, his rookie year, against Dallas.

Yeah, but I'm saying that catch, one-handed, realized that I may have two. hands on it and all he did is lock his wrist and bring that shit down. That was, that was fourth and 18. With a game on the line. It's not first quarter. Yes, bro. Fourth and

18, I, like, dude, Justin Jefferson is truly fucking him. He really seems like he's him, right? He's the best receiver in the league. Yeah? I don't think you can... I don't disagree with that, but I also in my head I'm like, there's so many good receivers out there. Oh, for sure. I mean, another receiver on

that field was Stefan Diggs. Oh, he's a great receiver. Yeah. I'm saying everybody's shitty. If I'm saying he's the best, I'm just saying like, dude, he is the best receiver in the game right now. He's going crazy. Like, does anybody have, like, stats that's comparative to his?

Not only from a talent level, like, I think his stats are proving that as well. Going into overtime, he had like 170 yards receiving. finished with, like, 190. He was the, in his first three seasons, he has the most 100-yard games. He's 20, 100-yard games in three seasons. That's, like a record. Of anybody. He's insane, man.

And he tied O'Dell for the fastest games to get to 4,000 receiving yards. He's legit. And I've said a lot of dumb shit this year. But the boys, I did say the Vikings. I did say the Vikings for the NFC North. I do want, like, if people are going to come correct and shit on me, bring out that receipt as well. Yeah, Tyrake is going crazy right now. He didn't really do much his last game.

I didn't get to see them play. But I do know that, that man, I saw a stat about him and, waddle and then they're like they're on pace as a duo to break all the records. Right, right. They got a good stable receivers. That is pretty, that is pretty incredible. Tyree Kill has 1,100

yards receiving already. Justice Jefferson has a thousand 60 but 1,100 yards receiving and it's weak what. Yeah. Yeah, but he's also got the ball 12 more times.

He's gotten open 12 more times. And he's played one more game, too. Oh, yeah, there we're in. One more game and... Yeah, I needed to keep going. Yeah, he's got 12 more yards. And a half a year or a game? 14 in it.

The most average yards of game goes to Jeff and Jefferson. These are the same, too. Their longs are literally the same also. I'm just stoked for Kirk, man. I just, like, I know he battles a lot of, like, criticism, and it's all fair criticism. It's like, they've played a weaker schedule. He doesn't win the big games. He doesn't rise to the occasion.

You go to Bill's Mafia, though. Yeah, you go to Buffalo. You're down. What were they down at a half? Like 2110? They were down 17 at one point. Yeah. Yeah.

Because Buffalo blew a double-digit lead. At Buffalo and coming back and literally you see all the chirps. And I was kind of thinking myself, fuck, man. They have played a week schedule like they're playing a good team. What about that snap on the goal line? Oh, with Josh? The quarterback center exchange? And it'd be a touchdown.

I mean, yeah, listen. That's brutal. If he literally moved a foot, the game's over. Yeah. But they didn't. But they didn't. That was a brutal. That's a brutal thing that go down.

That's a tough way to go out. That's a tough way to go out. And that's not the first thing that's happened with him. Like they also, that tights had a fourth down stop against him where he slipped. Remember? Yeah, but he got the ball and was trying. Are you talking about the sneak? Yeah.

Going in for a touchdown? Yeah. I'm just saying maybe stay away from sticks for a little bit, bills. Maybe. For a little bit. It's some advice that we could give here. To go into Bill's, like Bill's Mafia, their stadium, it's loud, it's obnoxious, it's crazy, and do that. That's a signature win for the Vikings to put on their resume.

It's going to help them the rest of the season. You can get that fourth and goal stop for the bills. Like the bills stopped them all fourth and short to just be hype. Like, we just won this game. Defense just won the game and the fumbling the snap. That's tough. That's tough. The overtime was insane too.

They literally walked down there and they took three. And Josh Allen was a man on the main. man on a mission. He literally ran for like, I think, 40 yards in that, like that last drive. And then you're legit like, oh. Shoulder down on Eric, on Eric Kendrick's? Yes. Put his shoulder down and Kendrick's gets his leg and he still hops for like three more yards. Like Josh Allen is. I mean, we're throwing this word around a lot, but he's him. Like, a, Kendrix almost got that ball out though.

But he did. A slow replay from the back. Or she's in hand grenades on that one, Bub. Went on the ball? That's a, that's a big motherfucker to bring down. Yes, he's massive. Yeah. And, I mean, that was just a cool game. Cool game to see.

How about Jeff Saturday? Dude, I'm actually so glad you brought that up. I'm bummed that they beat the Raiders. I hate, like, you know, I want the Raiders to pass back because the boys. It's all about Raider Nation. There's a part of me that one wants to see Jeff Saturday successful just because of all of the shit that went on last week in the media. Joe Thomas in Germany. Friend of the show.

Friend of the show. And I'm a individually, I'm a giant Joe Thomas fan. I think he's an incredible dude. his resume of his career, the guy he is, he's an amazing dude. He went on like a three, four minute rant about how ridiculous

this whole entire thing is. It doesn't seem that ridiculous. Like, that was such a staple win. Their offense looked incredible. Like, JT was back. Yeah. I think it's just big.

You know, I'm chewing on this. You're good. I'll keep going. But like for him, for him to do that, and when he was in the locker room post game and he's talking to the boys,

say, hey, we do this. Toughest team wins. You guys were the toughest team today. You guys showed X, X, Y, and Z, the way he was talking didn't look like a guy that's like not a coach. It looked like a guy who's been doing this for years

and was walking up. Jeff Saturday, like, I want Jeff Saturday to be so successful except for two games out of the year. You know? And unfortunately, we've already waxed that ass twice, so it's all over. So it's all good.

So it's all good. I mess with the Colts, though. I know Titans fans are going to hate me saying that. I mess with the Colts. I think their team, the way they're built is extremely, extremely tough. they run a good ball, they play good defense. Obviously, huge Quentin Nelson fans.

He sent you an amazing text today out of nowhere. But literally, I mess with the Colts. Like, Jags, Houston, it's not the same story over there, but I think the Colts are a legitimate franchise, and I'm stoked to see that he's doing well. The boys over there, Quentin Nelson, Dennis Kelly? Yeah, yes, absolutely. And hey, but Jaggs and Houston, Texan guys want to sit here?

They're more than welcome to, but they've got to defend themselves a little bit. I just think it's like, I understand criticizing the high. hiring process. Wholeheartedly. I understand getting to critiquing that hiring process of it all, but to continue to double, triple, quadruple down on, it seems like you're rooting against Jeff Saturday, like all the stuff that was going on. Like people are coming out with their own videos, like you said, Joe Thomas.

He's going for three or four minutes. Yeah, I think he was on like, good morning football or something saying that, right? Yeah. You see a lot of people like speaking out about it. Like, they want to speak out about it so much. but to act like Jeff Saturday wouldn't be like, it's not like Ursa just hired his buddy because he's just, oh, that's my boy,

I'm going to hire him as my boy. Like to be around a guy for 14 years and you see his habits every day, you see what he's about. He's an undrafted cat that made a Hall of Fame out of himself. That's been to the playoffs, I think he said 12 times.

Yeah. Who's seen a Super Bowl ring. Who's played with greats, who understands what greatness looks like. And again, like the daily habits. You're around this guy all the time. I'm sure, Jeff, if he didn't think he was big enough for the job

or wanted to take on that responsibility, he would have probably alluded to maybe this isn't the best route to go. But to be confident, like he said, I'm confident in who I am, I've been around greatness, I know I can lead men. You see it, they won against the Raiders. Like, yeah, you can argue all day long like it was the Raiders. Like, so what, they're still,

they got whooped by the saints. Other than that, they've lost every game. They're play away in every game, which is a funny thing to say. But it's not like they're an incompetent football team. Yeah. It's not just they're not incompetent. Like, the winning record doesn't show all the talent on that.

team. Right. There's a crazy amount of talent on the Raiders. Like, you still got to play them. Right. You still got to show up and play on Sunday. Yeah. The team to get a W and then you hear him post game in the locker. I hear him before I hear what everybody's saying. Like, it's just, you know, it makes me want to root for him because I do feel like he's in an underdog situation. He's got everybody kind of speaking out against him when he feels like he hasn't paid his dues in the coaching ranks, but the guy understands what winning looks like. Yeah, I don't know the whole this is a new world. Like things are changing every single day. Like this whole pay your due stuff. Like there's a whole different avenues to go down life

And it seems like coaching is now making a transition as well He might be a trailblazer for this whole entire thing But how much does it say about the players In the Colts locker room Who get Jeff Saturday as interim head coach Anyone with a phone knows Jeff Saturday Was getting drug through the mud the entire week They go out and play the way they did

Like shout out the boys on that They fucking came out and did what they were supposed to do That was that's that's cool as shit And assistant quarterbacks coach called the plays didn't he? I mean, yeah, I don't know the assistant quarterback's coach. If he's calling the plays. Right.

Well, he, Jeff had him. He's going to be the O.C. Everybody was mad about him jumping the line and doing all that stuff, which is like, you understand the criticizing part of it, but it's, you know,

like anything, you still got to show up and play. Like, let's see what happens. Right. And they win the game, bro. And it seems like the continuity, it might not,

it's hard to just say they have the continuity across the board. Like, I'm sure there's some holes just like there is and everything. Oh, yeah, always. But for them to come out again and get a win, I think is massive, bro. And I think it speaks to like, okay, it's not like he's just hiring his buddy to do something. Right. No, I completely get that.

And Quentin did. What a text out of nowhere. That was a really cool text by Quentin. Yeah. Because Quentin's not good on the phone. He's worse than me. Yeah. Like, he'll go months without texting or calling back.

Yeah. And then randomly he'll come out. And that was just a cool text he said. Yeah, he was like, Perryman was out, right? Perryman was out. And Martinez retired. Yep. He sent a nice text.

He talked about my playing. He's like year 10 in Caps Lock. Yes, that's exactly what it was. Yeah. We're playing against the Raiders. You played on the Raiders before. A couple of their guys were out. We need to see year 10, basically.

Yes. That was, hey, very well put. Which is, like, it is the week of year 10 if we're looking, if we're checking back on the receipts. Yeah, this is a big week for you. And I didn't bring it up in the beginning. And I think we just let the chips fall where they may, right? Yeah.

Because usually it's not Monday. It's a Tuesday thing. Could be. I'm like in one of those purgatory. It's like we're sitting there waiting. Yeah, you're in that Mormon waiting room. You're like, do you want to say anything? Like, do you want to, you just wait for it to happen?

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have ever worn in my entire life. But with that, back to the episode. Another bit of a deal, Packer's Titans this Thursday, boys, is the watch party on. Yeah, watch party's on. Watch party on at Acme Feed and Seed.

I will be there. Will TBD? I will be at Acme Feed and Seed. me feed and seed top floor? Second floor. We're going second floor. We're watching the whole game, right? I might have to put my kids down, so I might be a little bit late, but your boy will be there. We'll be having an absolute blast. Obviously, we'll have a bunch of merch out there.

All the merch that's coming out is going to be there, or we, what's not going to be there? We'll have mostly like Titan-centric stuff. Titan-centric stuff. Tighten-scentric stuff. Me, two-tone blue. We'll have it. Will this hat be there? It will. This hat's a hitter, too.

So all of you who won a new hat, this is the hat to get. Actually, I love wearing this hat. It's incredible. Yeah, but we're going to be there, dude. It's going to be awesome. Drinks will be flowing. Not so much for me because your boys, G-BOT. We're getting back on track.

But I will be there and just- You always pause it. This man with the pause. We won't even, we will not even. That he's pause right now. Look at that, man. Year 10 alive and well. What is that cheese sauce?

That's honey. That looks like, that looks like queso. Am I stress eating? Am I stress eating? You might be stressed eating. You don't have stress eating, Mitch? he's just shaking his head, yes. You might be stressing a little bit, but it's okay.

Like, if you finish that biscuit, work through your feelings when the podcast is over, you'll be all right. You're just anxious for year 10. I mean, it's not a bad thing. It's just a weird, it's a weird headspace to be in because you think you're about to leave. You're trying to have everything ready to leave on the bus and front, individual front, like, leaving the family.

Then you're like, I haven't heard anything yet today at a Thursday game. It's just like one of those things. It's like, do you, do you, like, like ruffle the failures, like, am I trying to just pack the truck up and go today? Do I let it come to me? Do you let other stuff happen first? Do you wait till Wednesday and be like, hey, what do we think the deal is now that I know I'm not going to go for another week?

There's a lot of those things. Yeah, it sounds like a lot. I'm completely, I feel totally normal. Like you were asking me yesterday, I was going to say I feel normal to talk about it because, again, like, we can be optimistic about something happening. And if it doesn't happen, you get a peek inside of like, yeah, we're stoked about something potentially happening. If it doesn't happen, life goes on.

Life goes on. We're living the best life ever. Like, it's not like you're walking into some, like, oh, my life can get so much better. Like, you have a cool opportunity coming up. But if it doesn't happen, you just get the backup back into your amazing life. Right, right, right, right. Exactly. Like, you have fun doing all the weekends.

Like, there's a part of you having the anxiety anyway. You're like, hey, how you found? I'm like, I'm low-key. Like, there's a little bit of sadness because I got a seven-month-old. We got the family thing going on. And you just, now that there's a, now that there's a, now that there's a get involved because there's nothing I've experienced playing football at all. Like, you know, being gone or being away from the family.

And you're kind of, I'm a little bit sad because it's coming up and I'm going to have to potentially leave. Yeah. Be away from Rue, Charo. I said, that's, it is hard. Yeah. It is hard. I almost feel like the situation is harder for you too

because it's not like, hey, I have to go to camp. Like, it's camp's happening. Like, you're gone from, then you kind of get acclimated. It's not really being around, like being like in your zone. And then you go in and so integrate yourself a little bit back into everyone's life while also being mainly focused on ball. Now you're going from being totally focused on Bustin and the family. to I got to be focused on ball voice.

Like, I know you're still going to be doing your thing on the bird. But at the same time, there's got to be, there's some sort of shock value that might come with this. That's going to be probably making you a little bit more nervous. Right. Yeah. And like, yeah, the nerves are definitely starting to creep in the closer it gets. You know what I mean?

Because it's all been fun. It's all been great. Like training has been going well and all that kind of stuff. But once it gets closer, like, damn, I might have to leave. Might have to leave here pretty quick. Yeah. Type of thing. And then you just don't know.

Like before I came here, Charles, like, so have you heard anything? I'm like, sweetheart. you know I would tell you immediately. Yeah, she'd be the second one to hear, for sure. That's how it works, boys. Yeah, after my agent. Yeah.

I will say, we'll keep an eye on it all week. This pot's coming out tomorrow. Hopefully, news will be happening before then. Yeah. Again, you never know. And if not, we're 10 toes down. We're living the dream no matter what. We're living the dream no matter what, bud.

I'm not there watch party on Thursday, live and well. South Carolina this weekend. Tennessee at South Carolina, another tailgate for college little tour thing presented by Bojangles that we're going to go do. We're going to keep on trucking. As always. But play out Willie,

just know the boy for all the GMs that do watch this show, it's alive and well. I'm ready to go. You're a playoff team looking for somebody, call the mercenary to finish the job. And you see him eating this biscuit right now. He literally had a workout in today and fasted.

That thing's getting burnt away. It's already gone off. It's coming. Melting, yeah. Already got a shit. Already got a shit. Already got a shit. should we hit one of our favorite segments of the week?

I think we should. All right. I believe it's time. Bloss, are you ready? More shout out of the week. Try not to chew that on the mic. My shout out this week. The weather started to officially change over.

Drop below the 40s this week. So I went ahead and washed the sheets on my bed and immediately pulled them out of the dryer. Got into my bed. Was nice and warm, fell fast asleep, so my shout-out, no-free shout-out this week is getting into a warm bed when those sheets come fresh out of the dryer. Oh, man. I thought you might be going to sweater weather.

And I was going to be like it might be recency bias, because I spent 48 hours in Anna-Rimichkin freezing my testicles off. I would have had to be like, I don't know about that. But I like who you ended up with that. Jackie Boy, what we have, baby? My shout-out. No free shout-out of the week goes to the shower after traveling. We obviously have to get my.

The flight, we had an early one. And especially when you're on the road leaving, we had to be in the car moving at like 6.45. So you kind of sacrifice that shower for five extra minutes of sleeping. So kind of hold now and then you finally get back to your place, get a nice hot shower, getting some comfy clothes, watch the game, can't beat it. That's my shout out.

You kind of took mine a little bit. Oh, oh. Oh, drum on the bag. Drum on the bag. It's still, it's different, though, because it's a different type. a shower. My shower. Okay. November got to.

Yeah. It's a tough weekend for the boy. No, it's like, obviously, like Taylor said, we were freezing our ass off, being outside all day, just, like, frigging. So my shower is when you get back to the place and you take that hot shower to warm you up. And it's just like a shower you don't want to get out of. It's just super warm. You're like, damn,

I could stay in here all that. It does take a minute to get out of that thing, huh? And you low-key, like, you do this as you're trying to, like, get your whole body in the water. Yeah. That is so true. Dude, those shower heads, too, were literally hitting me like right here in the chest. I was like trying to get down. Same. But, yeah.

Yeah. It's a different type of shower. Yeah, that's outstanding. That's a good one. It's a good one. Garrett. My shout out, no free shout out. It's going to go to everyone on the bus.

We've been grinding lately. And this weekend was just kind of one of those. Like, you guys said it, like, you all have carved, like, a pretty sick life outside of football. And I was just kind of reflecting yesterday. So I wanted to shout out everybody on the bus. Buddy. Because we're balling. Nice work. The boys are balling. It's been fun, dude.

The things we get to do for our job are just incredible. This is awesome. JP, good luck. I know, dude. There's like a lot I could have pulled from this weekend. But the one I'm going to have to go with, my shout-out, no-free shout-out, goes to Gamecock Nation. I think you two got a little glimpse of it. We're walking along the sideline. And what do y'all hear three or four times? Hey, go Cox. Go Cox. They have no idea who I am. The Game Cocknation is rolling throughout the country.

country. You people did now. I'm telling you. You're not lying, but that's the one you pulled from this weekend? You heard you just heard Michael Chandler. Even though we lost, we didn't lose. We got Tennessee this week. So my shout-outs to game. We will be there too. We will be there. Whaley. My shout-out,

no free shout-out, goes to winning all your bets in a day, going undefeated on the board. I was 0-5 on college football. I mean, I pretty much lost everything. Jack is on my hit list. He faded me.

He asked me who the lock of the day was. I gave him the lock of the day. He went against that. Whether or not he's like, I didn't fade you. I was kind of thinking, like, he asked, Will, who do you got? What's your lock? I was like, Kansas State Baylor over 52. And then he just shows me at the barline night.

He's like, hey, you're not going to want to see this. And Jack won. I don't want to see this. Jack, like, won a lot. I was tight about it. But it's always darkest before the dawn, bro. Sunday comes around, 6 and 0 on my picks. And that little teaser we put out there, like, did we lose the Bet the Boys Parlay?

You hate to see it because it was Derek, the king, who is the king and he remains the king. But it's stuff that that's what lost us to Bet the Boys Parlay. But the teaser and all six to the picks, like I was. I was so excited to put the green check marks next to everything, especially going, being down bad on Saturday. So that's my shoutout, no free shout out. An extremely successful day of gambling. Extremely successful day of gambling.

My shout-out goes to staple locations. And what I mean by that is, is you live in a small town, you live in a town, there's a place you always want to go to and check out. And I got to experience one of my staple locations this weekend. That's Mr. Spots. We were there for the spring,

tour and literally the week leading up to this past weekend, all the boys were so fired up on going to Mr. Spots. We didn't hit just once. We hit it twice. Keith hooked the boys up. We had Philly cheese steaks. We had chili cheese fries. We had shakes.

We had wings. The boys, listen, the calorie count was up. But going back to where at one point in your life, you live or stay there, been there enough times where you frequent in this spot, there's a reason why them photos of me in college look the way they do. And that's because of Mr. Spots. I mess with Mr. Sposs, and that is my shout-out. That was a Mr. Spazz was fire.

Mr. Spaz was fire. And we did it right this time. We talked about it. We were hyped while we were eating. Like, hey, we ordered the right amount of food this. Yeah, because the last time was hurt. We were hurt. In the springtime, yeah, we were very hungry.

We ate there around 3 o'clock, hadn't ate all day. My mouse was watering. Thinking about it. Yeah, I need to swallow. Carnivore diet. And we ate way too much to where we weren't even prepared for the dinner at night at like 6.30 or 7. clock. This time, same kind of thing happens. We don't really eat all day. We go to Mr. Spots at

3 o'clock. We do our best to order the right amount of food. We bodyed it. We got six inch sandwiches instead of 10. We got the right amount of wings. We got the right amount of fries. We were living the dream. And then come dinner time, we were back to being hungry. And it was perfect. Now, the one thing that sucked, though, was dinner. It was a little tough. The experience was a little tough. The food was pretty good. That lobster bisque. at the chop house. Will's face first came down now? Dude.

Yes. So if you have the chop house in Ann Arbor and Main Street, then you order the lobster bists, they bring you a plate with little sprinkles of lobster on it. Sprinkles of lobster. Before they pour the bisk in there. And so the guy puts the plate down and will leans over and goes, what the fuck is this?

It's the bisk, bro. It goes, no. You got to lean back. And then they came in with that little tiny silver dish thingy and pour it all up in there. That was delicious. The food was pretty. good but man chop house that service buddy just took a very long time took us very long we were there for two and a half hours for something that you know i get being backed up but again it's it's it's

friday night right on a game weekend like let's take it up a little bit let's start operating at a high level absolutely let's raise the standard boys yes overall phenomenal weekend it was a great time and even the boys got donkey like you had fun right oh i had a yeah i mean my weekend was not going to be predicated on Nebraska, winning or losing that football game. I had to really set my expectation. But, yeah, I had a blast, dude. The thing I love so much about what you, like,

you're like, hey, the weather wasn't in our favor. I can pull up three videos right now from Twitter going, like, the weather's perfect. I prayed for this. Like, three, four times. Well, then they started the game. It's like, all right, this isn't helping the way I thought it would. Then we get some more hands-on balls,

like create some turnovers, run the ball a little bit better. Casey Thompson's your quarterback that was hurt. Yeah. Do you think he plays? You think the score's different? Yeah, absolutely. You think you'll win? Oh, I don't know about when.

I lean on my fundamentals, which is we have a shot. Yeah. Casey Thompson's a good player. He's just not playing because allegedly he hasn't hurt pinky, which is tough to hear. That was tough to hear out loud for sure. Yeah, but you got to call a spade of spade. It is what it is.

We needed him. You know, pinky. Outstanding, boys. Outstanding work. time. For cheer talk? Do we know, do we have a tier talk?

Wing sauces. Yes, dude. Let's do wing sauces. That's a good call, brother. That's why you're fucking back there, man. Good shit, Jack. By the way, Jack, did you love that comments I put on your Instagram?

Well, what happened? I had a photo with Chris Ryan, CB, our guy, who hooked up with tickets. Yeah. And he commented and I just said, appreciate you, fam. And Taylor comments,

L.O.L. fam, dot, dot. Like, he's just... I just think it's funny, dude. I don't mean nothing by it. I do it from a place of, like, love. I think it's hilarious. If you take that much,

hate it that much, I will stop doing it. But I love, like, seeing little things and just putting stuff under people's... You love being a hater? No. It's a hater.

I know Jack and I love Jack. So I say shit. Because I know Jack and I have that relationship where I can say shit. I've heard different. Oh, no. I'm just talking with you. I'm fucking with you.

All right. tear talk wing sauces. So the boys in the back are not going to a JP because his whole life revolves around glizzies and hot wings. That is basically my man's diet. So

he will... Will. Sorry. You're right. I got to calm down. You're right. You're right. That's on me. One thing I did learn about Will this weekend. I knew he was a snacker, but I don't know how much of a snacker will was. Every time we came back to that damn hotel, he was rummaging

through that snack drawer, bro. You were going crazy on that fucking thing. Fucking Pop-Tart one night. I literally looked at Will on Friday night and I go, hey, you don't need that Pop-Tart. Ah, man, you know, I'm going to get it. I'm going to just put it back. He's like, man, he looks at me.

After I hounded him for like three minutes ago, he goes, Taylor, I'm going to eat this. I'm going to eat this. And then I wanted to make myself puke after. Yeah. When you're drunk with a Pop-Tart, I feel like. Yeah, JP. Oh, sorry. JP is the fucking hot sauce guy.

Well, I was going to say JP came in the next day and literally sitting next to my bed. It was a Pop-Tart rapper, a white claw, and Tylenol. That's so awesome. Jay P, what you got for us, Bub? Dude, this is so hard. Well, I don't do that. I know. I just love all wing sauces so much, so I will start out.

Tier 3. No honorable mention if you love all those years sauce. I know, just because I thought, I'm going to be disrespecting several sauces. But my tier 3 is going to have to go to. This is the ode to Rick Ross, lemon pepper. We got to have some lemon pepper wings from Wingstack, preferably. Shout out Rick Ross, send this to him. Tier two, got to go with some sort of, like, sweet heat, honey barbecue type sauce.

But it can't be just strictly like the sweet terriaki or whatever. There has to be a little bit of spice to it. And then tier one, the OG original buffalo hot sauce with the wings. gotta have it with the ranch gotta have all of them with the ranch but if there's something about the buffalo wings dipped in the perfect ranch that just hits

so those are my that's my tear talk on wings Mitch delicious classic reliable tasty basic

underwhelming he just love the back of the bus Willie baby what you got it is hard I honestly I would have it we can talk about afterwards. This is very hard. My honorable mention, I'm going to give an honorable mention to all the ones I don't say.

But I want to give an honorable mention to the saucy, the wet garlic parmesan. I think there's a big difference in the way you do garlic parmesan wings. But them saucy boys my mouse water right now, you got to throw out an honorable mention there. And like the mango hop and arrows. of the world. I just, I want to get that one in there too. All right. All right. Well, all right. My, uh, tier three is going to be, and this is a battle between, this is a battle between one and two. This is a battle between one, two, and three.

My tier three is going to be, uh, Asian zing. The Asian zings from, uh, Buffalo Wall Wings. Those are my favorite sauce anytime I went to a Buffalo Wild Wings. but the Asian style. I'm big into the Asian style. My tier two, like the gold sauce wings. You talked about Zips? Yes. Yeah, the gold's there.

McDougal's has a gold sauce. That's very good. It's got like a little zingy tang to it. You know what I'm saying? But the gold sauce, my tier one, my favorite, is hot honey. Anything with that, that sweet heat, that hot honey.

Those are my favorite wings. It's bringing a smile to my face because I fucking, that's a good day. You get an order of about 18 of them boys hoping nobody wants to share with you because then you'd have to order six more

just to like kind of offset that and dipped in ranch. Hot honeies. Those are my tier one. JP? Relatable. Different. Solid. Tangy.

Flavorful. Wet. That wop. Okay. I would like to also give an honorable mention. And my honorable mention is going to Sweet Heat as well. I think there's a place for sweet heat.

I think it's delicious. And it was very difficult for me not to put it in my tier group. I think you get that sweet and you add that heat. Buddy, you're living the dream. I think it's incredible. Now, I like to also say all my wings, all the sauces I'm going to say, I need my wings extra saucy.

That's just how I like to roll. So when you're envisioning this in your head, know that all them boys are drenched. My tier three is spicy garlic. I think I love some heat, but for whatever reason, garlic to me is just a hitter. My mouth is salivating.

I was the same way. But for a wild wings, you go there. They were one of my go-toes for sure every single time. If I was getting wings, it was spicy garlic and one other that will be mentioned next. So that is my tier three. My tier two is garlic parmesan. I think it is so fucking good.

And once again, Buffalo Wild Wings, but also Mr. Spots, those fucking garlic pomichon wings there, they were so saucy delicious. Those are very good. Those were very good, Pomachon garlic, garlic, parmesan wings. Yeah. And then everyone. who's on this bus knows what my tier one is. If I was on death row, this would be part of my order at Zips.

It would be their golden wings, extra saucy, extra crispy. Those to me are the greatest wings of all time. The greatest sauce of all time on a wing is specifically Zips, golden sauce on wings. I think this has a hyphen bad breath. This one also has a hyphen mouth watering. Saused. Grippy. Fire.

bitch made I'm just kidding a good great great jp just fucking fucking put the whole thing

I saw him say some shit oh my my criticism on yours I would have enjoyed a more specific tier two

I know you kind of paintbrushed it because a mango hobanero and then a sweet spicy like you know those are different levels of like heat too

yeah I personally never been a big original guy I could get drug for that but yeah like original buffalo mild medium any of it I try it's just I'm just not it's not a big fan unless it's like a

homemade shit you dump obviously Frank's hot sauce but a shit load of butter that like really offsets that like hot sauce tastes butter wings yeah there's a butterwing hit it for traditional buffalo wings I don't hate it at all

I just thought like when you hit were like the base of all the shit. You know what I'm saying? Of all the wings, you like hit the basic ones. But they're all good. Yeah, I mean, you get two garlics.

Yeah, I, yeah. Well, you had two garlics. What are you talking about? He said spicy garlic. I'm getting this and one other than I'm on. Oh, yeah, I did. I do, but I fucking love garlic. That would be my question.

What's that? You said, no matter what, you're getting a spicy garlic and then obviously the golden wings. No, no, no, I get the spicy garlic and the palm garlic. I like garlic, bro. I think that is so good.

So if you got golden, Parmesan garlic and spicy garlic on a menu, which two are you getting? I'm just getting golden double up. You can only... You get two flavors. If I got two flavors, I do golden and I would do Parmesan garlic.

All right. But if you listen to my tears, you would know I'd pick those two before I pick spicy garlic. I know. I just threw in there. I'm getting spicy garlic with one of these other ones every time.

Oh, yeah. I said the next one I'm going to say. Yeah, but I can totally understand why my list would be a little skewed with the garlic. It's just my palate. I love a garlic. I'm a garlic guy.

Wings? It would be a good engagement one. Because everybody's got there. It was on short notice, too. I know. Yeah, that was good. That was real good. Dude, I love hot honey.

I love hot honey. I can't believe Zipsman, you're two. That's crazy. What do you mean? Made my two? Like, not one? Yeah. Yeah, they're solid,

but truly if I see like a sweet heat or a hot honey, like that is no matter what always getting chosen. Oh, what's it called? What's the place we always go to, strike out? They got some sweet heat there. It's really good. That's probably their best one on the menu.

They actually have a good lemon pepper. Their lemon pepper is, yeah, I'm not a big lemon pepper. But his lemon pepper are saucy. I'm just not a dry rub guy. And usually lemon pepper is dry rub. Yeah. Garlic parmesan can be dry rub. You got to really make sure.

I know, you got to really make sure they're wet. They're like, they're like, they're like cook them with garlic and them makes me so mad like your wings are so overrated that is going to be a hot take but I agree wholeheartedly

yeah didn't they let you make your own they let you combine sauces yeah but they already got it on their menu too because we did the sweet heat with the

dipped in lemon pepper we did one time oh shit I hope that's Karno that's what that's carnivore yeah I don't know if that sauce is

a awesome episode with Michael Chandler he came on It's been 48 hours since the fight. He came on. I mean, he's got the black eyes. He's got the cut. Like, we dove in to absolutely everything.

We talked about the fighting IQ stuff. We talked about people talking about him being a dirty fighter during the fight. Just his perspective on it all, which you know is always A plus. But I feel like we covered everything. Yeah, in a short time. There's really no fat on this podcast. Yeah. So before we get into that episode, though, we're going to read this ad.

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All right. So when we were at Ann Arbor for the inaugural Bus and Bowl, we did see that photo that Sports Center put out like Michael Chandler's transformation. And then May, we were at your house that day. That was the party. That was the party. And legit, they caught you on an angle, no question. Maybe an exhale too, but hey.

The most extreme style of like, like Mike, didn't look bad at all. But you literally were, uh, you were rocked up. You were rocked up then. People were like, don't even realize you were rocked up. I was pushing out my stomach.

I was doing the dad impression. Yeah. You know. Pushing that down. We were throwing the football around too. Yeah. Well, we had just beat you guys in bags.

Yeah. Who's we? Russell. No, I don't think, uh, me and Russell. They came back. Right?

You guys came back. Yeah. Yeah. Because we were up big, weren't we? We actually, we were up three nothing. We were up three nothing. We had to stump them and let them keep playing.

Yeah. nothing and then we were deaf we were up i think 13 nothing like it was it was a big you guys rally big time boys got cold but the the after photo where you see like go ahead i don't even know that you see like the yeah the ripples of your like the amount of weight that you cut you look sick you look like uh if you would use that photo of you to teach people anatomy this is this is where this muscle is yeah because brie was with all of her medical schooling and stuff, she's like, yeah, you look like a cadaver or whatever they, yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's, uh, it's always good to show that stuff on fight week, too,

because also obviously launching the fitness app and stuff, it's like, you know, hey, this, this is attainable. But obviously, I'm a professional athlete. I train, you know, twice a day, freaking 12 weeks to look like that. You got to be proud of that photo. Let's be, let me just, yeah. If I saw that photo and my face is on that, I'd be like, I'm not, I don't own a t-shirt anymore. Well, yeah, the ab implants help too. Yeah, there's no question. Yeah, are you liver king in it? Actually, I am going to go carnivore in it for the next like two months probably.

Really? That's how I stayed so lean. I came into this camp really lean, actually, because I was carnivore for like two months straight. Yeah. Last time I had a rib eye and some butter. Write that down. I'll be doing the same thing now. Yeah.

Look like Mike Chandler. Yeah. Zero carbs. You look good, though. I feel good. Well, now we're on the mic. I still wanted to get that one in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel good. I feel good, you know. Part of it. Because when you're watching, when you were watching the fight, and I want to go through everything like your thought process. Because I thought when you walked out, you looked, we were all saying the boy looks loose. You looked like there was not a piece of stress on you.

But during that flight, my boy, you started leaking heavy. You started putting all of your blood on the back of that man's head. And seeing that fight and then seeing you now, I would say you look fantastic. Yeah, I was in a hyperbaric chairman this morning. It helped. And I do heal really quick. You got the face mask.

I saw the face mask photo where you got the, you know, you're taking care of your face a little bit. I put the face mask on a couple times already. Iced a couple times. Tons of anti-inflammatories. A lot of tumor. Cucumin.

Cercumin. Just pump all that like crazy the next week or two. Do you like a little bit of stuff? Do you like wake up and you're like fuck? Oh, dude. Yeah, I sneezed in like my core just from just from bearing down and kicking, barren down and punching,

barren down and getting punched. neck, jaw, abs. I mean, everything, head to toe, basically. Everything hurt. Was there anything that didn't hurt? No. Pied blood after, which is normal.

Oh, really? You said it's normal? Rabdo. Yeah. Whenever you go through those hard, like, yeah, those 15 minutes, it was almost like 13 minutes or whatever it was. So, yeah, just get a little blood in your urine

just to make you feel alive. Have you peed blood before? No. It's a very, painful experience. And there were people of mine. Mine wasn't painful. Mine's just red.

One time it was green. I don't remember, I don't know why that happened. You say it was green? It was green. I don't know. Was it after an IV? No, it was after just after one of my fights. Really?

I still need to ask, I've asked numerous doctors and medical professionals. Like, I have no idea what that was. Me neither. But I'm still alive. I just, I can't believe you're here on the bus right now. I'm like looking at you. I'm always on the bus, bro. Two nights ago, we're in a fight.

Landed yesterday, yeah. How have you been feeling, like, since the fight, like mentally, not, obviously, not physically. Like, you just talked about that. But, like, mentally, how have you been? Dude, good. I mean, not to downplay a loss because, man, you know, we're winners. We want to win what you want to do. But, dude, I, we've talked about this before.

I had, I'm in my second career now. My previous career was outside the UFC. A new career is inside the UFC. Inside of the UFC, I have fought five of the toughest dudes on the entire. higher planet at 155 pounds. The who's who of the guys who compete in my weight class. You're going to win. You're going to lose. When you lose, if you lose in a way that I did with a fight like that against the number two guy in the world, I think there's a lot of people that think my stock continues to rise. And now we just kind of sit back and see, you know, what happens.

Once again, it's not always about the wins and losses. It's about how you made people feel. I think people felt something, people feel something, not just, you know, at MSG, but around the world. The highlights are everywhere. I think people appreciate my contribution to mixed martial arts. The sport of mixed martial arts, I think, is better with me and the UFC right now, and things are going really, really well. I spent the last 24 hours hanging out with my family, took half to school this morning. So all the teachers that I always see and they're like, hey, how are you? Yeah. I'm like, I'm doing good. How are you guys doing? Good to see you.

I'll pick them up today after this, walk over there because it's a nice day and then see all them and a lot of them have seen the fight, I'm sure. So it's just fun, man. Life is good. Feel great. It's a weird thought process thinking about you going to see like your kids and the teachers because that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen for everybody. Like at so many schools, teachers are seeing just notice. You respect people that are working in regular nine to five jobs in and out. look the same every single day. And then these teachers know your kid, so they have some sort of personal bond to you.

I'm sure they're sitting there paying the $55 or whatever it is for a pay-per-view, watching you go. And so you just, and the way you just around people, the way you operate and the way you hold yourself, when you're around people, people root for you.

Like the boys, when we were at the brown jug after the game, there was one individual who was a thrower, shot put, whatever he does for Michigan. And at first it was fun. Because he didn't know we're boys with you. And he's like, I got Porier and I'm like, sure you do.

So we're stripping a little bit. And then he really started getting into it. And I was like, there might be a UFC fight in this, in this brown joke right now. Yeah. I know. Your personality, how you operate is it definitely, you humanize the game to people. Like when people watch individuals fight or play football or hockey, it's all like, these are heroes.

These are individuals that it's unattainable. And then when you're around, you're like, you make it more human because of how, like, you don't act like you're better than everybody. You have a very, you're very calm and stay right here at all times. And it's a very impressive thing to do with all the success you've had in your life. Well, thank you. Yeah. I mean, I didn't, I, yeah, it's, it's funny too because when you're in it, you don't really think about the success.

I don't know. I don't really think about the success that much. I'm just, just kind of living. You know, I'm kind of like going, doing my thing. Hey, what's my job? My job is to be father and husband. It's like going to training camp. Then it's be a fighter.

and also come home on the weekends be father-husband but you know it's cool like I know Taylin because Taylorin was there for everybody who doesn't know Taylorin your wife was there was awesome so I was glad that she got to

He was looking electric Will even pointed it out Well you see how hot your wife Looks like oh thank you so much They had so our stylist Our mutual Yeah So much

He's like bro look at my wife I was like come on buddy, they said a picture of Taylorin and Brie and I was like, look at these. Yes, I was like, yeah, they were all decked out because Krista was there. She got her makeup done. So they had Megan Fox's makeup artist

come to hotel. They all got all dolled up. She went over to the venue with us. She was taking care of. And I heard this the first time that Bree was escorted with you. First time. And Taylor's like, oh, I'm kind of just like here being escorted and it's his experience for the first time. It was. And

it's not because we don't Want Brita B. They're escorted with me. She actually, she gets, because you go to the fights, and I'm always later on the card. So you watch those first 10 fights before me. You see dudes get knocked out. You see arms get broken.

You see guys who are supposed to win, lose, and this anxiety level just starts rising and rising. So she likes to get there. If I'm fighting at 11, she likes to get there at like 9, 30, 10 o'clock. Yeah. But this time it didn't really work out that way. She, we wanted, it's New York. It's hard to get around.

I had security with me at all times. A guy named Drew, nonstop. I couldn't leave my room without him escorting me somewhere. So I was like, hey, let's have you with me. Why don't you guys come over to the venue with me? They came over to the venue like three hours early, which is not normal for her. So it was good.

It was very, very cool for her to, we walked in the arena hand in hand. She was looking foin. And if it happened, it was good. It's fun. Yeah, I just, I think it's, it's wild because you've obviously been on the pod, what, four or five times now? You really come on pretty much after the fight's over, and it's very much, like, appreciated.

You're willing to come on, like, this fast after a fight, especially when this is going to drop tomorrow. But I'm just curious, like, you... Each time you've came, you came after a win, you've came after a loss, you've said all this stuff. Like, the way you grab a hold of perspective is, like, it's very admirable. Like, I think you're, like, one of the best dudes out there. I love hearing your perspective on everything. I think you rub off on us. Like, I just always appreciate it, but I want to dive inside your head.

Like, after that fight's over, you can spin it any way, the entertaining. I lose this way that way. But are you just like, fuck, man, I'm so goddamn. It gets so fucking close because you coulda, there's parts where you're like, you know, you get gas in the first round because you had an opportunity. You're like putting them down. This motherfucker's just taking shots. We're literally like, and I know Jack was like rolling the phone on us in the back

we're like we're starting to jump like it's about to be over and for whatever reason that motherfucker just wouldn't go and you're out of it you're obviously you're obviously wearing yourself out more because you're seeing the opportunity you're trying to finish him you're trying to wrestle him even more down so you can get on top of him and stuff and when it just doesn't happen are you just like before you grab the perspective or you just like fuck man like when is it gonna just flip when's the ball going to just bounce my way for a second in one of these big situations where you're like right fucking there because what you're like it was also similar with oliver right like that first round, I'm at Will's house.

And we're like, oh, this is over. And this is the way the game goes. Sometimes stuff flips on a dime. Like, not only after, but like, after that first round, you had him. He was in that corner. You literally, it was like he's won the first round. We knew that. We know he's won the first round.

Well, he bounced back in the first round. He bounced back at the end. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, bounce back. You tell both these dudes are gassed. You're just like, man, oh, Mike just comes out early in the second round because you could tell dudes are gassing. And again, like, um,

I'm always at a boost this morning explaining to people. I'm like, dude, you're trying to like wrestle, be on the offense wrestling this guy because you had the opportunity and it just takes so much out of you. I apologize. I kind of stole your thought. No, no, no. We went back and forth on that. Basically, it was like,

not only your thought process after when the experience is concluded, but just in the middle of the fight, like in that first round, how it went, where was your mindset at? What were you thinking? And then also at the end what Will was trying to say, is where like when you're like damn is like when is this going to bounce my way because there are those two fights now off the top of my head where we're talking about a whole totally different situation where oliver you knock him out that's done that you could have took pourier out done and it's just this is not like a slight like oh man you couldn't finish i'm just saying like does that weigh on you yeah it does because well and that's that's the other thing too like when you talk about you're fighting the best guys in the world and the best guys in the world aren't just They aren't just technical.

They aren't just good fighters. They're also extremely tough. You know, and not just tough. And they're also just, they've been, whether it's luck, whether it's chance, whether it's just genetically, they're able to withstand the beating that I put on them. And same thing with me as well. I mean, like Porre said after the fight, it surprised him how durable I was. We're just, when you're in there and you're in the spirit of competition and you are,

something wells something up inside of you, you are outside. side of yourself. You are not, I am not Michael Chandler sitting there. I am a being that just has an indomitable spirit and you don't, you don't go down. You know, like, like you said in that first round, pouré was hurt. I went for the finish. It obviously, you know, had to throw everything at them. But I do remember after the fight, too, because they bring you back. And, you know, everybody's just, you know, don't hang your head. You know, we hear that all the time, whether it's a hard fought game, whether it's a hard fought hard fought fight um but you know you just yeah it's just it's sad you know i cried cried like a little baby um which is also just awesome too it's awesome moments that you get to

enjoy is it painful of course but it's also just like when when the high of the of the victory or defeat or the high of the competition comes down and it starts to starts to hit and it's over and you miss it you know you miss it you miss that that opportunity that you had whether you missed the opportunity to win, but also you also just miss it. You yearn for that competition that we just had. Um, you know, and the high comes down, the adrenaline comes down and the human emotion starts getting into it. And it was, uh, it was sad, but it was also beautiful. Like, it makes you feel alive. I said that in the post fight press conference. And everybody's like, no, you don't need to do the press conference. You don't need to, you know, you're fine. You don't, you need to go to the

hospital. You need to, I was like, no, I'm good. I told him, I don't want to go to the hospital. don't need to go to the hospital. I get on the microphone, win or lose. And because I think that's what people want to see, too. I mean, somewhere between the craziness of the competition and the guy that I am inside the cage and also just the person I am outside of the competition is the kind of the real me

where I've talked about living on both ends of the spectrum of crazy, just the crazy juxtaposition between the two. And man, it's just this is my story that I'm writing in a masterpiece that I'm painting for my sons to be able to see someday, you know, and they're going to say that's who my dad was, and I won't have to tell them because they're going to see it all. They're going to hear it all. They're going to be able to watch it all. Yeah. It's going to propel them and push them towards what they want to be. Yeah, I think. But it's freaking, yeah, it sucks, man. Sucks losing, but, but did I lose,

you know? I mean, I saw what, what Talen said to Bree, too. It's like, yeah, I lost, but I'm winning. What you said. I'm winning. I didn't win, but I'm winning. I'm winning at the game of life. I'm winning at, I'm winning at being the guy in the arena that everybody can point fingers at, laugh at, throw venom at that can make fun of and make memes about. But here I am, 10 toes down, pumped up about my life. Love my family. Love my, love my calling, love what I get to do with two black eyes, possibly a broken nose.

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You let you, again, like going and doing the press or after, like, doing this, you know, within 48 hours after, like, you allow people to look behind the curtain on it. And it is like a roller coaster ride. Like, it's not like you're taking all this time to, like, find the right thing to say or the right way to do it or this situation. There is no right time and there is no right thing. Yeah, it's cool because every, that's what every human kind of goes through anyway. Like, they're always battling in for you to, like, show yourself no matter whether it's sad. It's the crazy. It's the human guy.

I was a being here. I'm crying at this point. I'm bleeding death taxes and Mike Chandler bleeding in. fight is forever. But I know, I think it's I think it's really cool, man. Again, like I appreciate you sharing all this stuff because I'm just always super interested.

Like, at the end of the first round, when he catches you, are you just like, motherfucker? Or in that, like, I'm thinking sometimes, like, say you're on a long drive defensively. Yeah. You know, you're like, in the beginning, you're juiced, you're going, and say you're in the middle of a game. Right.

Sometimes when you get backed up in the reds on, you're like, fuck man like hopefully somebody else makes a play or hopefully they fuck up to where you're not like we're not always so programmed to be the most positive person in that time frame like the human side kicks in fatigue makes cowards of us all like was there a moment you probably it probably wouldn't happen but is there a moment and after the first round you're catching your breath like motherfucker like I need to come out here because this is kind of what I have left in the tank and because I'm starting to bottom out condition-wise because you threw so much at him in that first round. Like, I'm curious what goes on in those, like, when you're wrestling, you're up somebody

after two periods and a third period's coming, and you kind of feel then coming, and you're like, I need to either make something shake or try to, like, to me, is he in that last round? You can tell he's kind of leaning. Like, let's just, let's get through this round versus like, let me. Because he's winning, yeah. Because he's winning. Yeah. Like, does the strategy in those moments change?

Because you're just feeling your lungs, you're seeing, you're feeling the blood. Like, he kind of shook me. the end yeah no and that's and i think that's been the biggest criticism of me and how i fight um and people will call it fight IQ but i think it's just it's my spirit it's who i am like i've i've never once thought okay let me just get through this round i never once thought hey let's play it safe i've never once thought let's hit the brakes a little bit and would i probably win more fights could i have been a world champion if i've done that probably um but it's just not who i am you know so after the first round second round i wanted to get a takedown got the take down

got the take down in the second round beat them up a little bit on the ground at that point my nose is gushing i mean that's the other thing too i mean fatigue makes cowards of you all and you're talking about fatigue when you can breathe through your nose and your mouth i didn't breathe through my nose the last you know 11 minutes of that fight you know my mouth wide open yeah with the mouth wide open too yeah that button gets a little bigger yeah that button gets a little bit bigger. And Dost, and Porre is a, he's a very precise striker. He's very good at, he's very good at just pinpoint accuracy, punches and bunches when he gets guys hurt. You know, he wasn't, wasn't able to, to finish me on the feet, obviously. But yeah, it's, dude, it was just, uh, Madison Square

Garden is beautiful and it's amazing, but it sucks so bad. I still didn't hear my coaches. Can't hear a thing. your lungs are shaking from just the atmosphere in there. It's absolutely, I don't want to fight there ever again. I'm now 0 and 3 there, you know? So, yeah. So it's just, fourth one though.

Unless it's Connor next year. We'll see. You know, but, you know, I, it's, it's,

it's the craziest place to fight ever. And it's, it's, it's, you can't explain it. You know, I'm sure there's a, arena or a stadium you

have played in where you're just like this is this is different but Madison's for a garden is that you know it's so hard to compare the two things because it's the most obvious difference is it's team sport versus individual and there you can't get I can't get cues from the sideline like do this differently like

there's a break there's an intermission between each play yeah 36 between each play yeah but there is there are stadiums obviously like Kansas City of Seattle those you just know it's going to be a little bit different like in 2019 against the Ravens it just it's allowed but there's you prepare for that because you know what you're going into so there's a different cadence

there's a different way we know what we're about to do there's things tannihill or mariotta would do and say to make sure you know what you're supposed to do in that play so very difficult to compare those things but so you are you Vegas or bus guy now I well first of all I have to fight in Vegas like I still haven't fought in Vegas yeah fighting in the UFC now my fifth fight in the UFC haven't fought there yet so that would be I have to fight in Vegas but before I hang up the gloves. So, yeah, I need my next fight easy me in Vegas. But no more MS.

We'll make it happen. We'll call some people, JP. Call some people. Yeah, yeah, it gets JP. Call them. What do you think about some of the people that feel like you were fighting dirty in that fight? Like, people talked about you hitting them in the back of the head. You're obviously, like, when you're gushing blood, you're getting someone on his face.

I think it's fucking, you know, awesome. The fish hooked to try and submit them out. Like, can you speak on that? Well, the blood thing, the blood thing, first of all, that's not dirty or illegal. And second of all, he had me in a triangle. My head was over his face and my nose was gushing blood. Was I trying to clear my nose and trying to breathe and trying to survive? Yeah.

You know? So if blood was going to get on his face, sorry, my bad. But no, yes, I did. I thought it was fucking. Well, no, first of all. It looked like he was like, you were making a painting. You were making a Jackson Pollan painting on his face. Well, it's like, well, hey, if you're, if you're content to lay there and you're content to try to get this submission,

nobody, I knew it wasn't going to get it, but he was just going to lay there and he was buying his time. You're going to, you know, get rained on. And possibly, you know, the snot rockets were going to come out because it was just gushing and it was all coagulating inside there. And also I'm trying to breathe at the same time. You can hear me still sniffing. And you're fighting and you're both trying to kill each other.

Exactly. You know, so it's a little bit, you know, all three of those things you just brought up are a little bit unfair for the armchair quarterback to say. the back of the head thing did one or two of those punches catch his head, yes, after he turned his head but I was catching his ear with every single one of them.

That's why the referee was there watching the entire time. Yeah, you guys had a full on monologue. He said, watch the back of the head. As soon as he did, I said, I caught his ear. And then after that, was there any more punches to the back of the head? No. All of them were clean except for maybe one or two after he turned his head.

And that's actually a part of mixed martial arts that we are told if a guy turns his head, if the guy turns his head in order for you to punch him in the back of the head, you get those one or two shots. You get those one or two shots because you didn't do it intentionally. The actual head moved. It was ear, ear, he turned back of the head. Okay, now there's your warning.

Don't hit him in the back of the head anymore. So completely fine. The fish hook thing was not a fish hook. A fish hook is on the lip and on the skin. It was actually on his mouth beach, which I actually thought was his chin. I reached down and grabbed here because I was going. gonna pull the chin up. Connor saw where I was training it a ton that week. Reach down, grab the chin, lift the head, and go for it. I thought I had his chin.

But it turns out I was in his mouth and I didn't really realize it until he bit down on my hand. And I was like, oh, shoot, okay. And at that point, my elbow was stuck on the, you know, so I mean, you're also. You're in the fucking. You're in the middle of it, too. Bullets are flying. You're both trying to fight while also trying to like, all right, I have, you know, you're just, you're all trying to, like, figure out your gas thing, too. Like when he's turning his head or when he knows he's trying to try and get you in a submission, he knows he's probably not going to get it. You're probably just trying to sit there like, I just need to catch my breath for a little bit. Right.

Also, there's the times too where it's like people can watch it and they can watch stuff in slow-mo and they can say, oh my God, I can't believe he did that. Yeah. And you're like, when you're on the line or you're taking it doing a tackle, you don't know where your hands, where your feet are, what you're grabbing, what you're just, you're in the moment. You're in the motion. You're in literal hand-to-hand combat.

So you don't know what your hands are. doing what your feet are doing. You know, if you blatantly headbutt somebody, okay. If you blatantly punch someone in the nuts, yeah. But these things where you're grabbing and you're, you know, there's times where you're grabbing a guy's glove and you don't realize you're grabbing a glove. You think you're grabbing a wrist. Because you're not really, you're not thinking clearly.

So. I'm sure the ref understand that and they're somewhat knowledgeable. That's why they're there. Their eyes are on it and there's warnings. If you're grabbing a glove or you're grabbing a mouthpiece, you're grabbing whatever, then the, then the ref steps in and he's, okay, shoot, okay. Sorry. Yeah.

So, I mean, I'm not that worried about it because people who know me know I'm not a dirty fighter. Like, we're in the heat of combat as well. So it's like, whatever. When, uh, so you were talking about armchair quarterbacks, but after the fight, it did seem like there was some sort of tension. I feel like, boy, you got in your face and then all of a sudden said something super nice to you and you kind of just gave him the Dap up and walked away. Like, yeah, that was after. Yeah, after the fight. What was that whole experience like?

Because you're, like, I don't know. Did you say this publicly? Because Taylorin told me you're like, hey, I was going to shake his hand no matter what. Did you say that publicly? Yeah, I said that publicly. And then I went over to do it. And then I'm, yeah. And then I don't really, I'm not the kind of guy who's going to, you know, he and his cereal right now.

He, he, I feel like he could have been a better sport about the guy that he just beat coming over to him to congratulate him. And he wasn't. So I walked away. So I said some choice words walked away. He kind of chased me down to like, because he knew he was being a D bag. Yeah. And then he kind of tried to squash it. Then I kind of trolled him a little bit.

I chirped at him a little bit. Good. And then, and then. You need a beak. That's necessary. You know, you. Yeah, that's a necessary. He loves my chirp.

Win and lose. The chirps are necessary. You know, because I mean, yeah, and that's, that's part of it, too, man. I don't know. I'm just, I love winning. I don't like losing, but I also don't really care that much, man. I always say it too. My God still loves me.

My family still loves me. And I still love me. And the boy still love me, whether I win or lose. So I'm like, I'm secure. and myself, and I think a lot of people can't really accept that or think, or they think that it's, they think that it's not genuine. So all I can be is authentically myself. Yeah. Have you, how did it take you to get to that point where you always like that? Really, listen, I love myself. My family loves me. God loves me. Or was it, I hate losing more than I

love winning at some points? No. I mean, I, I, uh, I mean, I was insecure for a very, very long time. I had a very lowly view of myself. And we've talked about my, self-image and my self-image problems for years and years and years. Never thought that I would ever even come close to being here under the bright lights and cameras and Madison Square Garden and fighting for titles and stuff. I think it's just been, we underestimate how long it takes to get to that point. And we're all just continually evolving beings who are being, just being chipped away and molded by all of our experiences, you know.

I think when I was when I was younger I just wanted to win win win um and now I'm just like I love winning and I I train I think I train harder and I prepare harder than everyone else I deserve to win and then but when the bright lights come on and then it's time to that cage door closes it's not even really up to me at that point in time you know the the the outcome is going to take care of itself so then I also just throw throw it kind of out there and let it fly and, you know, I could, I could be probably a little bit more strategic as we talked about, like with an Israel, like an Israel out of Sonia or one of these guys. Don't be that strategic. Yeah, it'll get boring quick. Yeah, you know, and, yeah, I mean, I probably could have won some more fights, but I am who I am. I've enjoyed my run thus far and I'm going to keep on doing what I do.

Why not? Why not try? I was just going to ask. I was just going to ask. I try and be a little, if you watch the tape over and over and you say, could I be closer to a title or be a champion? probably why not look at that, hear what you're saying, watch the tape and be like, here's how I can be a better fighter in the octagon versus just going out there and letting

the, you know, all the adrenaline take over, letting yourself take over and trusting more of like the preparation that's going to go into the fight versus like allowing just this crazy ass iron mic step in there and let it all, you know, the ships will fall where that makes. It is electric. Like when you fight, there's a reason why you said it in your last fight like you're what everybody wants to see. And it's amazing. But there has, like... Yeah. Why not be smart? Why not be smarter about it?

Because I don't think it's as easy as a lot of people think it is as well. I think, uh, I mean... I'm, I want to ask why, like, you say, yeah, probably, and throw out the, anybody else thinking it versus you just sitting there and self-scouting yourself. Why, why not approach it in a way that would benefit you more? for like going for a title being better with the gas tank just you know well i think i think in those moments and in those exchanges where we say okay well i hurt poria in the first round hurt charles in the first round had i not been fighting that way that explosive that fast that in your face that foot on

the gas pedal those those opportunities would never have existed and you're going to see two guys i'd be on my back foot more which takes me more of a defensive stance instead of an offensive stance and most of the time, me being offensive has worked out more often than not. So it's, I mean, you also have to, you have to play to your strengths and your gifts as well. I think I'm, I think I'm faster and stronger and more athletic and have a lot of speed. And just the tenacity to be able to, in those moments, one, one guy starts to break and one guy starts to kind of conquer, if you will. and I have to be able to get to that, that place with all the gifts that I have, you know, but I'm more, I'm more saying, taking a round off like some guys do, you know, I would rather,

I guess not rather, but I just, it's not in my nature. Because you're probably, it's all, just trying to think, like, I'm trying to think your fight, like, there's not a lot of things other than, like, when you're getting gas, your hands are down and you're just thinking, like, you can tell, like, you can tell the man's tired at the end of this first round. Right. And then in the second round, you're probably like in your offensive nature, hey, I got this much in the tank right now. I got to take him down, an awesome take down. I guess I'm just trying to think, like, how do you look at it? And you're like, okay, I need to,

if I'm running out of the gas in these moments, do I look at some of the training or some of the conditioning that's happening? Because I'm such an offensive explosive type condition level fighter versus a more of a steadier pace start to fight. Do you look at how do I get a little bit more condition? If I'm going to be this way and play to my strengths, Do you end up going back and kind of like, you know, maybe I need to change my training up a little bit? Yeah, and I think I have changed my training up a little bit. So regrettably, I think as a guy who, as the actual fighter who is in there competing, I don't, I wouldn't say that my competition, my competition course of action is exactly like my training either. But it also, I think mixed martial arts is different than a lot of sports too, where the competition is so much.

different than the training that it can't even be it can't even be portrayed to the average to mimic yeah it's it's almost impossible it's impossible in any arena let alone madison square garden you know so that's that's the other aspect of it too that's a little bit i mean it's even bewildering to me i look at it i'm like yeah i didn't exactly train like that i'm not upset about it i'm not regret it regretting anything um and it's almost just impossible to do it, you know, because I've actually, my, I've toned down my training a lot. If you guys saw the way that I trained compared to the way that I fight, it would, it would blow your mind. I choose my three, four training partners that I spar with.

They're safe guys. I'm not going crazy. I'm not in fighter flight mode. It's light. It's technical. I'm not taking damage. And then I go out in the fights and it's completely different. Straight fighter flight.

Straight fighter. Yeah. It's really just fight. It's going to go. There's no flight. running to the octagon or just going to the octagon the gate closed is like yeah it's got to be so hard to like crack the code on figuring out that those type of exactly and maybe i'm a maybe i'm a pretty interesting science experiment that we'll look at someday and people will break it down and say you know why does

that happen but also you only get which is crazy you only get i think the fear of me under achieving because i look at i look at this last loss i look at my previous losses wins. I don't think I've ever underachieved. I think I let it all out there, put it all out there. I fought well. Did I make some mistakes? Of course, we all do in every, every game, every fight, every everything. But I've never under, I would never say I've underachieve. I'm not, I'm not upset with my performance ever. So I think the fear of, of the fear of that guy who sits in the chair in the medical tent after a loss and say, man, I freaking, I did not put it all out there

tonight. I did not go for it. I did not, I did not fight like a... The guy who kept pulling to the ground and trying to do the... A little, you had a little spin flips. Yeah, exactly. Like, I would, I would be, I would be, I would be, I would be so embarrassed of that. I would be so let down of that. And I would be so, I would be so regret that

so much more than, than the me who went out there and went out on my shield. Yeah, but you So you talked about like the evolution of yourself. He dealt with a bunch of insecurities in the beginning of all this madness when it was starting. The self-doubt, the way you looked at yourself in the mirror. And obviously that has evolved and become more and more and more. I think what Will is, where's trying to get at is those opportunities you had with Charles and Porier, like you can still have those opportunities, but maybe in the second round. Because gas things are all the same in the beginning.

Everyone's full. You come out the way you do. Listen, I'm a guy that knows nothing. watch you. I've never wrestled in my life. I'm a fan. I like to sit and share on the boy. So everything is grain of salt with what I'm saying. But instead of, you know, wearing him down, seeing where he's at, you can still be offensive. And then maybe that second round, you have that. He doesn't have the same gas think he did in the first round. Maybe you get that finish. Is that like, does that ever like come over your head is because I think what

we're getting hung up on a little bit is taking a foot off the gas or like taking a round off. And I would never expect you to do that. I don't think you would ever make that compromise to yourself. My thought is like, why not just play some chess a little bit that first round. You can still go hard and go hard in the paint knowing, okay, I'm going to tire him down in this X, Y, and Z. And then in the second round, we finish business the way it needs to be finished. Yeah. But I think I'm saying. Yeah. I'm okay. All right. I'm personally, like, when we talk about the science project, I feel like in fighting, it is hard to kind of put your finger on, but I feel like if I'm putting myself, like if I were happening to be a fighter

who's had your matches, I would just be frustrated on figuring out how can I put my finger on how I can either finish these fights or not like, I do get, because you look at the last fight and it's hard to think, how would you do something different? You saw an opportunity to put him out and you tried your fucking damnedest to put him out

that he catches you, you're fucking, you're tired, then the second round happens. It is what it is. So, yeah, it's just, I just love being in your head. I want to ask as many questions as possible. Well, I think also. You've obviously been on the pot a lot. We've talked about the,

the wins, the losses, and everything else. I want to know the selfish fucking Michael Chandler that's thinking about this thing and be like, fuck, I do X, Y, and Z. I'm just curious. Yeah, no, the hard part about mixed martial arts, too, or fighting, just a fight in general is it's like you can find yourself either 100% offensive, but if you're not 100% offensive, then you become 100% defensive or somewhere in the middle. And it's hard for me when I'm in the middle or I'm in the defensive posture, I start to

overthink things as well. And I don't want to overthink things when I'm in there. I'd rather just get in there, get in there and get into the craziness of it. Because I also know who I'm also fighting another human being who has a breaking point, who has self-doubt, who has, who has, who has the second guessing of themselves whenever they see me, they feel my presence, they feel my pressure,

they feel, you know, so there's, it's a, it's the mind game, the physicality, the technique, the fear, the one-punch, K-O, the one-punch knock, the one-punch kick, the one submission you can catch somebody in, the wrestling, the dog fights. It's just, it's a beautiful sport. But if I'm not 100% offensive and 100% putting foot on the gas, it's tough to, you start to overthink things.

So I think maybe that's a crutch of mine. Maybe that's something I could have worked on, but I'm also a little bit too far gone to. think about that now. Yeah. Again, I respect the shit out of it. I'm just... Not too far gone, but we could all grow.

We can all get better, but it's... We're just super fucking curious how it all goes down, because even listening to you talk right there, it's just the methodology. Like, I'm not going to allow myself to think I'm going to get the fight started. Like, I'm going to deal with all these things. I'm going to get this thing going. I think you do a great job. Obviously, everybody in your corner, we just sit there and everybody wants...

Everybody wants to see you fucking win, just like you do. And so when you sit and look at it, like, fuck, you got to, gas there, not because of a, like, a conditioning level, but because it's like, it's hard as fuck to finish. If he didn't go down and you're having to wrestle him and he's kind of just stabilizing and trying to catch his own breath and you're just trying to wrestle him to the ground, be offensive and it just doesn't happen, yeah, it's like, it's hard, it's hard to be like, how do you even fucking get to a level of training to get there because you kind of can't?

Because you're in such a fighter flight survival. I'm trying to end him. I'm trying to do whatever possible. And how can you actually mimic that without just being like, fuck, you just need one of those shots to land and he just goes down. Well, that's the thing, too. I mean, well, and that's where we talk about, I forget what you were saying earlier, but there's a little, there's a piece of luck in there as well.

I mean, there's a piece of luck and chance where, I mean, if one of those punches lands a little bit higher, a little bit lower, a little bit harder, a little bit different angle. I mean, I remember in the fight, I was like, I'm about to finish this dude. Landed four or five shots on him. He doesn't go down. I'm sure he thought the same thing about me, four or five shots, lands on me, nose is bleeding like crazy. You don't go down.

There's been times where you, you're going to. you hit a guy and he goes down and you're like that was easy i felt like i didn't even hit him and you feel like sometimes you're hitting him with a baseball bat and a two by four in there it's center block as hard as you can and they don't go down so it's it's uh and then all of a sudden then you're left with okay shoot we got two more rounds left we got four more rounds left we got whatever and it's it's uh that'd be the scary part for me yeah personally yeah like me getting tired i'm just like oh fuck yeah that's i mean that's that's the scary i don't i don't remember being too tired in this fight i remember being very tired in a lot of fights i don't remember

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I haven't seen the fight by the way. And I don't really remember the fight. You were literally, you had the best seat. So, yeah, you were there. That's what's crazy as I, like, believe you. It's like, I'm sure it's hard to even remember all this stuff. Oh, yeah. You don't remember, you don't really remember things.

You don't really remember a thing. Because I'm sitting there, I'm like, I mean, both of you guys are very fucking tired at the end of that front of round. Yeah. And I feel it was in war. We're kind of sitting there like. Buddy, we have the hands going. We're moving around.

We're like grabbing each other. It was a bit of a deal. Okay, so the first round, you finally get back to your coaches. You can't hear a thing in Madison Square Garden. What are they telling you? I remember Henry saying, because if I remember correctly,

the end of the first round was not great in my, in my... That's where he bounced back and made him, and he snaked around. It'd be... You think he snaked around there? Like, maybe.

I don't know what like the point said. Like, Mike was laying in massive blows. Yeah. I think you touched him more than he touched you. Just the way that first round in, and it's like, okay, thankfully that round ended. Right. So, it might not have been enough at the end of the first round.

And it was kind of like, thank God they get to... I remember looking at that Cloxian 5, 4. I'm like, please God, just get to zero. Because there was, you had him and then he caught something. So yes, absolutely. So you get back to, you get back to it. Henry, is it? What's Henry talking about?

Henry, because I think the way that that first round ended, that's when he was like, okay, well, don't get into a brawl in his mind. So he was saying, you know, go out there, get a takedown. Should have worked the body more. The distance was going well. He threw a lot of straight left hands that weren't landing. I was getting out of the way to those. I wanted to step off land a right hand.

We worked a lot of that. That didn't really happen too much. I think I might have landed one. But yeah, they were more just like, hey, let's, Let's try to secure this next round. Go out there, get a take-down. We've got to take-down. Second round.

But... It was a nice takedown. I don't remember. I need to go back and watch it. It was a good take-down. We might try to do, like, a breakdown of the fight. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, why?

I lost on the scorecards. Which one? All of them? Score cards, yep. I lost the first round on the score cards, which was good because that was one of my... I did have a moment of regret there when I was like... Because, because I think...

a couple people said that I had won the first and second round because I won the second round, I thought. According to the scorecard too? Yes. Two of the judges, I think. So in my mind, I'm like, shoot, if I was up to O, I should have been a little bit less gung-ho in that third round and played it a little bit more safe.

But to me, it was 1-1, and I'm not going to leave it in the hands of judges. I needed to go out there and try to put it on them. And then there's absolutely no way in hell unless you guys just no one gave out that fight was going to go all three rounds. Yeah. I just, I mean, you guys were, you guys were just getting after it. Getting after it. Yeah.

Which always happens was your fights. Like you're one of the most electric fucking fighters out there. It's just like, goddamn, I hear, I need to. You want them to, you want the ball to bounce your way. Yeah. That would be good. But also, dude, I got care less, dude. Yeah, I'm thinking, I'm thinking my own selfishness.

I don't even know my record. I'm thinking my own selfishness of like, we're at, fucking, God damn. I know. The boys, we were so hurt. Love your brother. We were so hurt. We were so hurt. Yeah. That's what you said.

But that's the truth. It is the truth. When you get to that point, too, where you're just like, dude, and even like just that, like, F mall. And even you where it's just like, dude, you're winning. Like, we're winning. As long as you're doing what you can with what you have, with your best foot forward, constantly, you're winning.

And it's going to work out, you know, whether you win or lose, whether you are successful or you're a failure. Yeah. Whatever. Like I'm not at the point now where I'm even worried about it. I'm living a dream. This is this right here is the happiest I've ever been in victory or defeat no matter what. Why?

Because I walked on. I left Bellator. I left the relative security of being the face of a promotion, getting paid great, great money, coming over to the UFC, making so much more. money for my family than I ever thought I would. So much more platforms, so much more everything. And it's it's just absolutely a dream that I'm living. So maybe that, you know, the big time Michael Chandler supporters out there like, God dang, dude, but we just want you to win, dude. I told all my boys you were going to win. I told all my friends you were going to win. You're going to be champion.

I'm like, that's cool. But, you know, we're fighting the, and also we're fighting the best guys on the planet at my weight class the best guys so if i'm not that i'm not that and i can sleep fine at night knowing that you empty the tank no matter what like i there's a you can't have regrets if you put full effort out 100% if you give everything you have there's no regrets yeah and i think that's where i'm i'm kind of trying to get at too that i can't really put into perspective and i people are probably just like dude you sound like a loser right now you're completely okay with losing you're completely okay with falling short and i and i i'm not but i also am because I think there's so much freedom in that. And I think there's, you can't, you can't live in

full freedom unless you're completely okay with losing as well, you know, and I don't want to, I don't want young kids to be like, oh, it's okay to lose because I want you to, I want you to work extremely hard. I want you to be disciplined. I want you to try to become your best self. I want my sons to know that I, it's okay to lose, but you deserve to win, you know, but I think in the deserving to win, you also have to, when you're putting your son, out there and being the man in the arena and being the guy who who puts himself completely out there you're going to take losses it's going to happen so dude yeah and you said it too like putting yourself out there like to go that hard you have to be willing to be able to look failure in

the eye if you're going to exhaust yourself that much because you in my getting to watch you being your friend and everything else you do do that so you're saying it and like yeah people the big mike Chandler supporters like if I'm sitting there fan of Mike Chandler yeah we want to go to the top why don't you want to talk about the goals of winning but like knowing you I like you put everything into everything so the fact that you come up short it's like you can sleep well a night because you know I am doing fucking everything I absolutely can and I leave it all out there yeah yeah and it's just uh but it's also just a metaphor for life man this is what we this is what we do and this is life in every single endeavor that we choose to go down, every single road that we choose to go down. And mine is

fighting in a cage and collecting scars and black eyes and broken noses. And, you know, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's my story and it's a beautiful thing. And it's an awesome platform. And I'm not upset about it. I, the sun rose this morning. Two boys woke up this morning. My wife woke up this morning. We got some coffee and life is good. And I'm on the bus. Fuck the rest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All, dude. Fuck them all, dude. That's what Bessachi, I would always say.

He would just, you'd just see a random message, fuck them all. Dude, I love it. You back, damn, that sucks. You didn't get, you didn't get the head coaching job. Who cares? Fuck them all. Yeah. And just keep it moving.

Yeah. And that's, yeah, that's the kind of freedom that you want to be able to live in. Yeah. I don't know. You seem calm. This is the calmest I've ever seen you. Like, it's from an energy standpoint for sure. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know what the future holds. You know, you just like, let's play. Let's play. Fox, what are we? I don't know. I know what the future holds for the next couple months. Enjoy the holidays, see what shakes out. You know, the title is, I mean, at this point, I'm not talking about the title.

But the, you know, the title fight's happening in February. You know, Connor's coming back. Eventually, I'm on the short list for that fight, I'm sure. But I don't know. Hey, that's the fight, right? That is the fight. I mean, that's, I think. Chandler.

I think at this point, it's hard for me to, I mean, Vegas. I'm not a big self-promoter, but like, yeah, I mean, I'm like, we're here. Yeah, we're, we're, we're, we'll self-promote you forever. I'm the, I'm the guy that, that people want to watch for sure. What do you want to see? Oh, me and McGregor fight international fight week of next year, July. International? Well, yeah, the UFC always does international fight week in July.

That's when all the people from around the world come to, Vegas watch the fight. Okay. I thought, yeah. It's usually, usually one of the biggest cards of the year. Usually they do one July and like November, like this Madison Square Garden one was the biggest,

the other big one that they do. And that's what, I think Chandler v. McGregor, July, I mean, I have all the, yes, to lose this last fight? Absolutely. But did my stock rise? I think so.

Do people want to watch me fight? Absolutely. Will people ever not buy the pay-per-view if I'm, if I'm on it? I think there's a long shot. I think everybody wants to see me fight. I'm going to sit back and wait and see how it all plays out. Wait for the phone call because I think without sounding too narcissistic,

I think I'm the guy that everyone wants to watch fight. And I'm not going to do it unless it's something that excites me and something that I'm willing to leave my family for. Yeah, because people don't know. Like, it's not like you're just hanging out and be like, all right, I got a fight in a week. I'll see you guys. But you have to literally go and leave your family.

Yeah. And basically just take over this. A completely different lives. Yeah. And it's a complete place mentally, physically and spiritually that that is absolutely draining too. I mean, just, you know, I'm sitting here 186 pounds sitting on the bus right now. I was just 156, what, 72 hours ago, you know? And of course.

Wild. Yeah. And of course, some of that is inflammation. And I, you know, stuffed myself after the fight, you know, and blew. I did have pizza. actually. I am not a big carb guy, you know, but I had pizza. My boy Jimmy picked up some raised pizza. And, uh, yeah, yeah. So we went back to, you know, I don't, I don't even like, it actually had too much cheese on it. I wish that we went light on the cheese. Um, but yeah, we went back and we had some

pizza and it was up until four in the morning because I didn't get back to the hotel to like two in the morning. Yeah. You know, it was just a late, late night. So it's been my body's kind of out of, out of whack off kilter, because I've been sleeping so perfectly, eating so light, eating so lean and all of a sudden my body's like yo bro what are you doing what are we up to right now i'm fasting today until like another two hours or three hours just to like let my body took some smooth move tea to clean it all out so maybe i'm less than 186 now but um and that piece out anyway i got swing yeah but anyways no back to that back i mean it's inflammation it's this brother 30 pounds you're speaking strictly to the rest of to the fight culture of like yeah maybe i did x y and z but

everybody else like, yo, 30 fucking pounds. People pause that and call somebody. He was like, hey, did you hear? He lost 30 pounds. He might get a text from one of his five, but he's like, hey, come on, why are you lying? Like, you know, some of that's inflammation. Some of that says it was like, 99.9% of everybody out there's like, yo, 30 pounds is insane. Well, it's a lot of it.

A lot of it was the dehydration and the rehydration. I mean, I was 175 within 12 hours. You know, drink two gallons of water and I'm almost 175. But, but yeah, going back to the preparation. And what gets me off of, what gets me out of the house, what gets me out of, you know, working on the other businesses that I'm doing and the investments and just the family and friends and beautiful life that I get to live. What's going to pull me away from that is something that excites me that I have to go,

be away from the family for that is going to, you know, take care of me and my family, going to continue to increase the platform. That's where I'm at this point. And I love fighting for the UFC. I just talked to Hunter Campbell yesterday, who's the number two in charge at the UFC base. basically. And, you know, I love them. I love the opportunity they have given me. They love me. Dana called me the Arturo Gotti of, of the UFC, you know, which is, which is true inside of the cage, I think, for about as accurate of the depiction as you could have. But it's got to be

something that really excites me because I, you know, I'm not going to do it for just anything, any fight and just another fight, you know. Yeah, that makes sense. Got to be McGregor. McGregor makes a lot of sense. We'll see what he says. It does. It does make a lot of sense. You heard it here first on the bus.

JP, you got anything with the fighting stuff? Our UFC correspondent, JP Hovey? More just a question. If you'd want to rank your opponents that you've had in the UFC, toughest to, I don't want to say least toughest,

but. Yeah, toughest to the opposite of that. Man, I would go gate you. toughest, Porre's second, only because, only because of the way that the fight went, because Porre was, Porre was very, very light on the ground. I think he was actually, I think he was resting a little bit under there. I don't know if he was really trying to get away a lot, which is actually probably really smart because I think he was, he was, he was conserving gas. There's no question. There's no question.

me while I was trying, while I was just trying to hammer away, which is very smart. Shows his veteran mentality. Then it would go Oliveira after that, then Ferguson, then Hooker. But the Hooker fight didn't really count because it was so quick. It wasn't even really that much. He didn't really get to show his toughness. Dan Hooker looked great this last fight. He needed that win.

Yeah, Dak Prescott's tweet tweet me. That's crazy. No, that's the revenge. I know. I saw Josh Keller. But, uh, deck Prescott revenge tour. Yeah, that's a crazy list.

It is a while. Yeah, I mean, hey, if I had to walk away right now, I'd be like, first five fights in the UFC, only five fights in the UFC. We did our work. Peace. I'm out. Barry Sanders. Say you. Would you, uh, who would you want to fight next if not Connor?

I don't know. It's got, like I said, it's got to be a big fight. Nate Diaz just left, but he could come back whenever. I would fight Nate Diaz. I would fight George Miles Vidal. I want to fight these guys at 172.

Probably healthier for you. Healthier, dude. And these guys aren't that big. I mean, imagine, bro. You're a tiny. Yeah, that was a thing. That's the thing. I'm not going to make.

And you're older. Like, it's not like you're some young, some young cat going to these tournaments anymore. Well, that's the thing. I'm older, but I've also proven that I'm, that I've, I mean, it's kind of like I've been there done that got the T-shirt, man. Like, yeah, I've never missed weight my entire life. I've never pulled out of a fight.

That's something I wear as a badge of honor. So, fight these guys at 170. These guys who are 155ers at 170. I, I would, it would be naive and somewhat delusional for me to sit here and talk about the title. I'm not, I'm not nowhere close to fighting for the title now. So I'm not going to, you know, fight five, fights in the top five again to try to get back to the title at 155 and all that kind of stuff do i think

it's still a possibility in the cards for me with another big win i could fight gachi again i could fight who else is in the top five there are you olivera you know i mean there's the olivera fight i like the olivera fight i would love that rematch i would love the gaiji rematch um but then you got these young hungry guys too that are coming in hafayel fazev who's actually a training partner of I think he trained with us for a while and went back to Russia or island or whatever. So, we'll see. I have no idea, boys. Where would you want to fight Conor at?

Well, wait. 170, for sure. At his biggest, at his baggist, and his most dangerous. He did put out a little picture that a day. 265 in the bank. He is looking rocked up. Yeah, I, uh, you be faster in a fight this is from Zach Deden

could you beat faster in a fight out of me and Taylor oh my god I don't know dude it'd probably be me it'd be harder answer that'd be hard it'd be hard I don't know I'm almost six weeks post-op ACL surgery I think uh how are you doing let's talk about you doing fantastic you don't need to worry about me and boss we're living I literally walked

a drunken marathon this past weekend and I have hardly any swelling in my knee so life literally could not be better right now. Dude, let's go. Yeah, it's been amazing. But who do you think would be in a fight? Me or Will,

who do you beat faster? Will? Only because I'm looking at you right now. I would definitely beat Taylor, dude. I would crush Taylor so bad. Probably, dude. There is film of me getting knocked out, so.

Oh, yeah. Twice. But not in a fight. Yeah, but not in a fight, though. I know. Yeah, exactly. There's film of me getting knocked out in a fight. You've been in a fight before Will?

Not really. Dang, dude. No. But you got ground game. Oh, I guess. Great wrestling, dude. Has tossed my ass around in wrestling so many times at this point. Great wrestling.

Yeah. Do you think you'd be, do you think he could hang with him in wrestling? Hang with Chandler and wrestling? Bring the eagle out. The crazy part of me says maybe. Yeah. I love that. Not at 190.

Not when I'm 190. Maybe one day we, you know. Just give me, you know, give me a little bit of time. But wrestling's fucking crazy. What about Cody? him and Cody wrestling yeah for everybody who everybody's listening

Cody is one of Will's brothers dude I don't know I'd have to tap in with Cody but Cody would Cody and me wrestling yeah you get about four you get about four whiskeys and Cody

he ain't gonna stop now he ain't gonna stop how much is he wait now I mean he's on the mat every day oh yeah he's coaching yeah yeah so he's got got that old man that old man

you guys are probably I don't know. He's not. He's, he's in the 60s, so it'd probably be tough since you're heavier and you guys are like good wrestlers. Yeah. But that'd be fun. Get him out here for Nashville for a day. We go to training camp. We just roll around on the mats a little bit. I'll wear a singlet. Or a mazoo singlet. He can wear his Nebraska singlet. Get the little ankle bracelets out there, green and red. Anglets, too. Yeah, the anklets. That'd be hilarious. That would be funny.

You dust him. I'll say it for you. I'll dust him. I'll say it for you. I'll d'clock. I love Cody to death. 14 and 1 probably. I wouldn't quite tech follow him. Yeah, I don't know. I, it just depends. I'm joking, Cody. I think it depends how much wrestling you do year round, right?

Yeah. I'm thinking of the technicality of just wrestling. I probably do more wrestling him. You think so? Well, probably. Then you probably would be, does he wrestle with the guys? Yeah.

He wrestles live with the guys? Yeah, Cody's thought of like, he, Cody's like wanted to, like, do the fucking little vet tournaments that. Yeah. Because he rocks with the purler circuit all year round. Oh, yeah. Yep. I'm still out of my league right now. So all those five, seven-day intensive camps and stuff like that, like, he still brags about it.

He's still like, you see the competitiveness in him about it. It'd be funny. You, you, I mean, you were a stud. I was. I used to be. Yeah, but still, you're still fighting. You still wrestle all the time. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Who knows? One day. We'd check it out one day. Oh, yeah. Well, for sure. Cody would want to wrestle.

Cody would do it. Like, yeah, if we called Cody right now, he'd be in four hours. Yeah. He would be like, you want me to do what? When I get done. When I get done fighting, I'm not going to do any more wrestling. Any more of that stuff. I'll probably just lift weights.

Just trying to think of itching. What else can we hit on? How's your walk-on, your app and everything going? It's going good. Yeah, we're still waiting to get approved by the app store. We're approved on Android, Google Play right now. But you can go to walk-onfit.com, get the web-based version. We actually, Connor, how many episodes do we do fight week?

Probably eight or ten. Yeah, we did like 10 episodes of all behind the scene stuff too. So you have following you through your regimen and everything like that. Yeah, so all of those videos are exclusively on walkonfit.com only for members. And obviously we have all of our training programs, diet, nutrition, supplementation, all my secrets I've picked up over the last 22 years. So all the boys go out there, subscribe, walkonfit.com. Hopefully it'll be done on your iPhone soon.

But you can go to walkonfit.com and get the web-based version, which look, will look exactly like the actual app. It's just not available on the app store yet. So Apple, freaking approve it, dude. I love that, man. Anything you want to talk about? I know we've basically put the spotlight right on top.

We've been peppering you the whole time. Yeah, you guys have. No, I'm joking. No, man. Life is good. On the bus. I want to ask about this carnivore diet. This last question brought to you by Roebuck.

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Back to the episode. Why carnivore diet? What's the benefits of doing that for the next two months? I just like, I like red meat. It's more just... It has to be red meat. No, I mean, you can do it. You can do chicken.

Yeah. I just think, yeah, chicken thighs are delicious. But I think red meat is just the best, honestly. But isn't red meat have a harder time digesting? Isn't that making more difficult? But I feel phenomenal just eating red meat. Last night I had just a huge ribeye with some with some butter on it, grass-fed butter. And actually, we had some sushi too.

They ordered some sushi. So I just had some fish as well. Yeah. But I mean, really, I do like 80% carnivore. I still eat a lot of vegetables here and there. But just it's basically just no carbs. No carbs at all. Carbs are the enemy.

Carbs are the enemy. If anybody wants to lose weight, go go a month without eating starchy carbs, bread, pasta, even potatoes and that kind of stuff. Just go off of it and see what happens. 100% off of it. 100% off of it. You don't need it. The food pyramid, which said what, 10, 11 servings of carbohydrates,

Yeah, that was the base. That was the base of the pyramid. Yes, it was created. You follow that thing too in elementary school. You're like, this is. Yes. It was created as a marketing tool for the agricultural industry saying we need this much wheat. It was made by a guy out of Minnesota who had ties to the wheat industry.

So it was just, we were sold a huge lie. That protein way up at the top to whatever of the top two. Second tier. Should be at the very bottom. bottom. Mainly protein, mainly protein, vegetables and fruits. And then, you know, if you're going to do dairy and stuff, which I don't do dairy. You say grass-fed butter. I try to stay away from dairy just because I will just follow whoever. If you're like, hey, this is the best route to go. I'm like, Don, I'm not touching dairy ever again. I pretty much just stay away from gluten

and dairy. But I mean, your boy. Yeah. But you're a big guy who's always trying to keep weight on as well, too. Not right now. Not right now. I think I'm at like 286. So I think I'm going to bump it back down. Probably try to get into 70s. There you go. 60s maybe. Nimbled. That's the 50s. That's the 50s. That's the 50s. You think the carnivore diet is like the move for all that. Just staying lean. I like, I mean, I've, I've liked it. I've enjoyed it. Yes. Staying lean for sure. And then if you follow like, you know, the two people really to follow, liver king, carnivore MD. So you are a supporter of liver. Liver. King. Not exactly.

But he's, not exactly. You're a supporter. He's kind of a, you know, he's turned himself, he's turned himself into a straight up, you know,

meme guy where he's just doing crazy stuff. But do I think that, generations before us ate a lot more organs than we do? Absolutely. Do I think organs have been demonized and carbohydrates have been praised, you know,

absolutely. And I think it's backwards. You know, eating nose to tail is, is, is something that should be looked at because that's, you know, generations before us ate that way.

You know, not being afraid of liver, heart, intestines, kidneys, I haven't ate testicles. I mean, we should ate some testicles. Yeah, they had to. Yeah, they had to. Who knows if they wanted to, you know what I'm saying? Well, but also, but...

Just a little bit of bread, it'll change your life. Yeah, yeah, in a bad way. Yeah. You should have sauce the spots over the weekend. Oh, funny. We had three meals the whole weekend. Two of them at Mr. Spots, which is like Philly Cheesesteak, wings, chili cheese fries, milkshakes. And then we went to like a nice little steakhouse, which is service, by the way.

Awful. Awful service. But the food is pretty good. Well, yeah. You're talking to a guy. I just had pizza the other night. So I still feel guilty. You're still feeling guilty about that.

You know, last time I had pizza was at our Memorial Day party or whatever party that was. In May? That was the last time I had pizza last night. Should I have pizza last night? And then, yeah, and then just tonight and then, or two, whatever, three nights ago, whatever night it was. And, uh, am I going back? It's not going back. So, straight steaks.

So carbs, zero carbs. Well, I mean, I get carbs. You get carbs from vegetables. You get carbs from vegetables. Um, I really enjoyed eating a lot of dates this training camp, actually, which obviously is sugars, which is carbs. Um, but it also helped me stay regular. But when I say carbs, I mean, when, what, when you think of carbs, you think of grains, pastas, reds, potatoes, those things.

Sweet potato, use sparingly a little bit. If you're training hard, the problem is everybody listen to this. Chances are they don't train hard enough to actually need that much carbs. So how do you keep your energy while you're working out? Fats. Protein. And mental and physical, intestinal fortitude. Of a Missouri boy. Fuck in Missouri, guys, dude. Show me, State.

Let's go. No, but I mean, I mean, I, I mean, I'm showing you. The UFC makes all of our meals throughout Fight Week and stuff. So after my way-ins and stuff, I was eating a decent amount of carbs. I was eating a lot of sweet potato and stuff. And I even questioned it. I was like, hey, I haven't been doing a lot of carbs. And he's like, it's okay.

Throw some carbs in there. So energy level felt fine for the fight. Whether it looked that way or not, I don't know. I'm sold. I'm carnivore now. Cakes. Next few months. We're grilling it out.

Send you a weekly updated pictures. There you go. Just send me a picture of your steaks back and forth. Every single time. You're on top. Only doing red meat? That's mainly what I like because I feel like it's so hard to find chicken that's not just pumped full of crap this one of make you grow a third ear.

Chicken's something like that jack kangaroo. You think it's hard to find chicken? We have the perfect chicken for you right now that this episode is actually going to be presented by. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah, Bojangles. Bo jangles. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God.

Holy cow. Jason, Jay. A little surprise we got here. Dang, there we go. Hand-bredded with joy. Hand-bredded with joy. That's what it says. Hand-Bretted.

Appreciate that. Appreciate that. What do we got here? I'm carnivore now. I can't be eating that breaded. Just kidding. A. Bojangles does hit, though. Let's go.

You don't about to open that thing up? Just want to take a peek? What's it talking about? Is that bo-Geney. Diet starts tomorrow. Dude. The diet started today, and I went off. yesterday, boys.

I went off yesterday. Has some shake shack. How good was that? Buddy, so I didn't tell you, boys, we got back from the airport. Atlanta in Nashville. Taylor and texted me, hey, can you pick me up at the airport at 1230?

Huh? Oh, really? Yeah, so I said yes, and I did it. So then I went to the best soft serve ice cream place of all time. Thank you. Yes, got a blizzy. What'd you get?

They had a pumpkin pie one. I was in the fall mood So I got the pumpkin pie one large Then I pick up Taylin Go to the house Get a little hungry Shake shack burger Prize

Gosh shake No way What kind of shake It gets worse bro Yes Yeah yeah They got some good cooks cream It gets worse

Then everyone's coming Like we have Not everyone's coming over Tilton had some family in town Her friend Natalie came over the house And we're like hey we're watching Yellowstone Yellowstone wasn't washed

But pizza was ordered and so it was Coldstone Creamery. Oh my gosh. You had a 10,000 calorie day. I went off yesterday and I kept by playing that little mind game. You know, we were talking the other day. Like, hey, it starts tomorrow. Like, it starts tomorrow.

So I'm like guilt-free eating. I feel like a piece of shit. Like, you feel so bad after eating pizza twice in the last six months. I'm like, listen to my day yesterday. That's a personal problem, though. The dude's got 30 pounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to eat.

I just lick my cold phone off. Yeah, his cold phone. Yeah. How good was it? I legit went a little crazy yesterday. I woke up today. Clear eyes, full heart. I'm ready to start.

I'm ready to go right now. Got a workout in, got buried. I don't know if you guys can fucking tell. I see the palm, bro. It was legs. So, yeah, it starts today. I haven't eaten yet today, though. What time is it?

Me either. 12. One. One. I got lunch at 1.30 at the house, boys. I'm about to call and be like, no vegetables. No carbs. I'm late for it.

about to have the easiest life of all time. Like cooking for carnivore? Yeah, steak and butter on top. You're going to eat a meal. Suvi, sear. Do you have to do butter? I get, I get, like, this is a weird fear, but I'm kind of, I'm kind of, I'm fearful of dairy.

I know what I just said yesterday. But I'm saying when I'm taking my, you know, listen, this man, ice cream days in a row. I'm not lactose intolerant at all. I've done my blood work and they're like, yeah, you're good with dairy. But for whatever reason, I'm like, I feel like there is also an enemy. Like when I'm going crazy like I did yesterday, I have no issue. There's no problem.

I'm not getting up in the middle of the shit in my pants. But I also, like, if I'm taking my shit serious, which I do now, I look at, I look at that butter. I get nervous.

It starts today, boys. Everything starts at some point, and it was always day one at some point. The first inaugural busombo bustle was Saturday. 800 years from now, they'll be talking about what a legendary trophy game this is.

But I had to start it sometime. And you can always pause it. What do you mean? You can always pause. the diet. No. But I'm saying you can't. You're saying no right now.

For me, like, the minute you break, you failed. You can't work like that. You got to have some fluidity with your lifestyle. I should be taking notes. My boys got year 10 alive and well. I'm just saying you can pause. Like, hey, I'm carnival. Guess what I'm carnival right now.

I might pause it when I eat this bojangles real quick. Yeah, when the bojing goes, yeah, when the bojingles, yeah, gets my system, you press play. You can play the game. You can play the other. But you can play. It is. It is, yeah.

That's not a diet. Every diet has to pause. You're confined by the way society has put these norms on our brains. Just start talking like a big brain in it. Yeah. Don't buy into the Matrix, dude. You're like carnivore. There's some fried chicken right there.

Eat it. It's meat. Yeah, but it's breaded. No carbs. We love it. We haven't had carbs, dude. Wow. I love Bojangles.

I'm obsessed with Bojangles. It breaks my heart to say I can't eat Bojangles right now. I was there yesterday too. Would you want to be part of the intro with us? Sure. I got to get the body work, though. You got to leave? Yeah, it started right now.

Oh, you can take off. You can take off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Chandler. Yeah. Thank you guys for having me. Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate you.

I know we're really diving into, like, meticulous things. I just, I'm just in my head. I want to, like, you're sitting here with the top five fighter in the world. I want to know all this stuff. and you've came on after pretty much your last three fights, three or four fights. Win or lose, we come on the bus. Yeah, and we do all the stuff.

All of that stuff. If you guys want to know more about Mike's mentality, I'm sure everybody who's followed along that's a tier one already knows it. I wanted to get in more, we wanted to get in more like the gritty details of like, you know, the side without the before the perspective, that little part in between. But I appreciate you, man. Thank you guys. Thank you guys for having me.

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