Bussin' With The Boys - Mike Alstott

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Starting point is 00:01:46 House cleaning? House warming? House cleaning? The boys, I don't know if you guys saw last week, but we got a cease and desist from Budweiser. As you guys watch this episode, I'm, I mean, that's, we've, I guess that's been covered up for a while, but we're sitting on a Budweiser bus, boys. So I hopefully that since we bought the bus, like, we're safe from that. But the fact that the boys are canceling us, our merchandise.

Starting point is 00:02:15 So if you guys see, and that's another thing, I know we're running a sale right now, has nothing to do with getting cease and desist, but, you know, anything you guys see with Bud, Budweiser-style logos, you know, they're going to be discontinued. And there's a lot of murmurs out there. People talking about collector's items selling on eBay. You know what I mean? NFTs, the whole thing, the whole shebang. So if you guys are listening right now and you're like,

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Starting point is 00:04:47 or would just take a photo of the truck and let you let everybody know that you're the hardest work in the room. So, yeah, now that we're done with Chevy, back into this Budweiser gig. Dale Earnhardt swinging for the boys. He tagged, which might not seem like a lot, but maybe it does. Because I want to say Budweiser, Budweiser sponsors Dale, and I want to say Dale is, I want to say Dale is like a part of Budweiser. Yeah, I think like, that was like a Bud-like gig.

Starting point is 00:05:20 Yeah, overall, when I say Umbrella, when I say Budweiser, the umbrella Anheiser Bush is the one giving us that cease and desist. I wouldn't be surprised that Dale was tied in there. Yeah, he's fighting in for sure. I mean, he's been with them forever, right? I got a message that night from a couple of the local boys that it's been making its way up because they obviously, you know, would like to get something like that fix.

Starting point is 00:05:41 I mean, it just makes the most sense, bro. Like, like I said, I've been on butt heavy. It's a huge compliment. I know the first day when I found out, I'm like, boys, we got to see a Cs and Csendezs from Budweiser and Alex comes up and just dast me up right away. I'm like, well, why is that? He's like, bro, that's awesome.

Starting point is 00:06:02 Like, we've made it. That's a nod. Like, yeah, that's a nod of respect, dude. Hopefully, you know, either way, the boys were pivoting. Shout out the boys at the pivot. We are rebranding a little bit. We're making some new logos, some new designs, some new brands. You guys will probably have seen them by now since you guys are listening right now on Wednesday,

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Starting point is 00:08:16 We will be in Nebraska this week. So if you're listening right now, we will be in Nebraska tomorrow, Thursday and Friday, doing some fun shit, making some good content with the boys, doing like a watered-down recruit visit to where Taylor and, and I think we're going to slide into some of the unies. We're going to see some of the new facilities being built. We're going to sit down with a couple players.

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Starting point is 00:09:15 What do you got, Alex? We also just crossed, as of this morning, 150,000 subscribers. Really? Let's fucking go. We've been doing solid, man. It's incredible. It's like, it's incredible. to know we were at three years ago.

Starting point is 00:09:30 In Blas, I know you're in that parking lot with us. It's just nuts, man. And it's been a lot of fun. But, yeah, this Boston Football Spring Tour, 22, brought to you by Chevy. That would be coming at you. Nebraska this week. Michigan next week, next, like Friday and Saturday.

Starting point is 00:09:48 And then we're still figuring out the foundation to go out to the University of Tennessee to watch a spring practice, to make content, to have fun on social media. Drop you guys these, interviews on YouTube, and that'll be a lot of fun. Also, April 24th, the boys are doing their first live show at Zanies. April 24th at the Comedy Club, Zanies, in Nashville.

Starting point is 00:10:10 Our show starts at 4 p.m. I'm telling you guys this now, there are no more tickets. I want to say we sold that in five hours. Again, fucking incredible. Taylor and I got to figure that shit out because we can't just go up there. It just go up there. Hey, so what do we do? What do we talk about?

Starting point is 00:10:27 But we'll have a lot of fun with everybody in the crowd. But yeah, that is on April 24th. That's awesome shit. We're also going to do this little free shout segment. I want to say I hear the boy outside right now. Hopefully he gets ass in here. But now we will get into, we had a legend on Mike Allsott. I mean, it's pretty set in stone right, the greatest fullback of all time.

Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah. I mean, him. We talked about what, Lorenzo Neal. He was a monster. Dude, watching Allstate highlights growing up, like, and I was a white running back growing up in the Little League playing around. So Mike Allstead is who you watched in the NFL. Were you a neck roll guy?

Starting point is 00:11:08 No, but when I created a player all the time, Matt and I was a neckroll guy. But I was like, when we played outside, you know how you always pretended to be players? Yeah. I was like Emmett Smith, Eddie George, Terrell Davis, TD. But the only, like, white dude that Toad Tote the Rock was Mike Allstott. And just bulldozing dudes. But he was awesome, man. Mike, he came on.

Starting point is 00:11:29 We had a really good time. But we get into, I think what was interesting is him talking about the differences in Coach Dungey and coach John Gruden. What else? We got in some good Rich Basce's stories because Mike, he's got, we have a lot of people in common. Basacea got started, was getting started while Mike Allstate was in the league. So there's a lot of coaches and stuff that he was telling a lot of funny stories on. But what else, what other things were we getting into in that episode? How soft the NFL is.

Starting point is 00:11:58 Oh, yeah, that was tough to sit there. We're kind of feeling each other out. Taylor and I are both sitting in our chair is kind of feeling like this motherfucker wants to call us soft as fuck right now. Because he talks about, like, the landscape of what off-seasons look like now compared to how they did it back in the day.

Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah, we talk about some CBA stuff, how it's evolved over time. But you could tell he's a... He's straight blue collar, dude. That dude, you know back in the day he just wanted to drink beer and play football. He's coaching high school right now, too, right? Yeah. Yeah, he's coaching high school down

Starting point is 00:12:28 outside of Tampa, correct? Outside of Tampa, Florida, I believe. But it's an awesome episode. You guys will love it again. Subscribe to the pod, follow the pod, subscribe to the YouTube, all the fun stuff. And enjoy the episode, man. Bustin with the boys. Oh, you even got the hat on. I don't see these numbers rolling, boys. There we go. I got a weird complex about these numbers. What do you mean? Well, we're not rolling unless that time is rolling. So now I know we're rolling. Oh, we're rolling?

Starting point is 00:12:55 Because it's a difficult thing when you start a problem. podcast and I just met you for the first time. We're both playing this limbo of foundation. This is it going to be a real friendship? Or is there like an hour and a half thing we're going to do? And, uh, but then you start talking about stuff and it's like, well, we should wait for the pod. You know what, what is it?

Starting point is 00:13:11 It's like we go through that time right there, the whole time? Yeah. He's got a smaller brain. The time allows him to know that we've started the podcast. No, I know. Yeah. Conkeys. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:24 He's like somebody to go into the timer there. Help for that. You know that? Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of help for a lot of things I need to look into you right now. No, you know, I'm kind of, I have my issues, too. Yeah. What do you do for it?

Starting point is 00:13:36 Try not think about it. Well, that's one way to go about it. It's a fullback thing to say, too. Yeah, it's all right. Oh, this? Just the arm thinks it's the wrong way. That'll be fine, slaps it back into place. Would you expect any other answer from arguably the most iconic fullback of all time?

Starting point is 00:13:51 Just like, so what do you do about it? I just don't think about it. Who else is, who else to be more iconic? The only person has a chance is... I don't know. I just don't want to disrespect anybody, but... Who's the dude from 49ers? Kyle, you...

Starting point is 00:14:02 Oh, yeah, my bad. I should have lost that. Big Niners guy back here. But Eusechek is like, he's like... He's way more finesse. But he's definitely like a dude that's like... Yeah. You watch him.

Starting point is 00:14:13 You know, my buddy that... And, yeah, low Neil, Lorenzo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's a... He played with me in a year. He's a good buddy of mine. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah, that, uh, you know, he's true and true. fullback right there, you know what I mean? Yeah. Kind of like us, me, or even the other guys, you know, I don't even think he's can touch the ball in the 18 years, you know what I mean? Really?

Starting point is 00:14:35 You're talking about O'Neal? Yeah. Because he was just a blocker. Yeah, but he would get this and that, you know what I mean? Yeah, but you were so pretty, I mean, you mowed motherfuckers down. Yeah, you're a tank.

Starting point is 00:14:46 You're not, how humble you are, but like, we're over here being kids. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, I'm talking. You would go to a target when you were playing back in day, and the kid would be like,

Starting point is 00:14:54 Mommy, that's a train. Yeah. You know, like we're doing that right now just in front of you with you. Yeah, no. And we're 30. The old. The old. Hey, we're 30 right now.

Starting point is 00:15:02 The old Madden games. The late game days in the 90s. Yeah. Yeah, this is a good run. But here, let's talk about you guys. How are you doing? No, dude. It works.

Starting point is 00:15:14 To go back on the head stuff, has that been a problem for you? Is that stuff that you really do pay attention to? You see guys? Like, headstuff recovering from football after you played for so long? Yeah, no, I think probably the beginning of, you know, the pandemic, 2020, right? It was something I really focused on. And then the pandemic had it. And then my daughter, you know, she was like kind of like, not vegan, but more organic.

Starting point is 00:15:40 And kind of getting some shit going on. And, you know, the thing was I kind of got in that realm. And then with these guys, with TISA, you know, Doc, who's the creator of this, he kind of got that. So I'm anti-aging, you know, worried about now and, like, taking care of your body and stuff like that. And you'll see it. You'll see yourself. You know, I'm 40 years old, man.

Starting point is 00:16:02 So it's like, man, I spent a lot of time and trying not to get seriously, like, Alzheimer's and dementia and fight that shit. You know what I mean? It's a scary thing as you get older for sure. I mean, I'm 30, 32. Yeah. And I'm thinking about it all the time. I was telling one of my buddies back there when I finished the season, there's like two or three weeks where I'm like, I'm like, from a cognitive standpoint, I'm not projecting. my sentences as well. I'm not like cognitively like saying like you're getting older right.

Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah, you get it. Definitely that hurt to hear by the way. I definitely. You think you're going to be young forever. No, no question. When you're like 15, 16 years old in high school and you think, I'm going to do this for rest of my life. And then you like get older and you're like, you're so brainwashed in the world of football, especially high school, especially college. Then when you get to the NFL, you kind of get a view of like the business and how it really is. But when you're in college. It's a little different. I think with, what do you, how many years are you in now? It's going to be nine. Wow. And you're similar, right?

Starting point is 00:17:01 Mm-hmm. Just finished nine. Yeah, we're 10. Like, your 10 boy, right? We might be chasing year 10. Yeah, no, that's cool. But it's just, it was a different era when I played. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:10 I mean, it was just like, you know, the business side was there, but we really didn't, you know, look like that. You know what I mean? You looked at it more just like the love of the game standpoint, you feel like? Yeah, love of the game. especially the guys I played with, man. I played with some, my teammates were amazing, you know what I mean? You know, we had Derek Brooks, Runday Barber, you know, we had sat, we had Lynch.

Starting point is 00:17:31 I mean, we had all these guys that were just like unbelievable hallfamers, but, you know, we were really boys, you know what I mean? Yeah. We were tight, you know, and stuff. And it was kind of cool. And that's what I missed, you know what I mean? Yeah. I missed that. I missed the locker room.

Starting point is 00:17:42 I miss, you know, I didn't get, you know, I didn't get the money you guys got, you know what I mean? It was fighting. I would have played every year, though, man. Because I had like, my last four years, I believe, last three or four years, you know, I was on a one-year deal. I'm a retired this year. I'm retired at this year. And I would have played until, I would have been like Brady and played until, you know, whatever. And so, you know, I blew out my neck and it was done.

Starting point is 00:18:05 You know what I mean? So it was great though, man. You guys live it up, bro. It's pretty freaking amazing. When the neck thing happened and they said, hey, you're done or you had to make the decision for yourself that you're done, like, what was that? How did you feel? What was that process like knowing that, like, hey, the dream's over? Well, first of all, 03, it happened.

Starting point is 00:18:22 The first one happened, right? So I go out and get... What exactly happened? Okay, so I herniated 5-6, C-5-C-6, you know what I mean? Yeah. Hernated it. So I actually was coming through and was going to take on the DB and stuff like that. And then obviously Joe Jervish comes in and I'm already going at it, right?

Starting point is 00:18:46 and he goes in, he's like, blocked that guy for out, and I hit him, I blew out his knee, I popped my neck, and, uh, yeah. One special. Yeah. Yeah, so it was that, then... Did you have neck problems before this? No, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 00:19:01 It's kind of like a Zit, just ready to burst, you know, volcano radars, you know what I mean? Just, big thick one, hits the mirror when you pop it. Oh, shit, right? Yeah, them high school boys. Mm-hmm. That one right in the bridge of your nose, right? Oh, man, that's the worst, man.

Starting point is 00:19:12 Can't be a good. So, um, a long story. short is I we have a bye week um it was getting memorized going through all that stuff and monday um monday we have we have a we have a monday we have a we have a monday we have a we have a game i don't know what i don't i'm out i haven't practiced right yeah the thing is once i got loosened up warmed up my neck didn't bother me at all yeah it was only when i woke up and i'm like yeah yeah yeah yeah turn over in bed or anything like that anyway long so short is i fly up to Pittsburgh and I meet Maroon

Starting point is 00:19:46 was a doctor for the Steelers right? So I go up and say I I had the big old film right carrying it in the airport go up there and I go one thing to him I go I go, yeah you're going to need some surgery I go okay can I go back do I have any risk of paralysis he's like no I said I'll see you later doc

Starting point is 00:20:05 I got on a plane get a private jet back in plane got an escort to the stadium I played that Monday night no shit he needs your paralysis No. Duceus. Appreciate you. Hey, thanks for nothing. You know who's...

Starting point is 00:20:18 Go ahead and send me that bell. You know who his trainer was at the time? No. Torcelli. Oh, really? You were boys of Todd? Oh, the Thai is best. He's the best, man.

Starting point is 00:20:25 Dad is the best. I was messing with him. He was like, he's the... I was supposed to text him and I was coming in town. He's in town? That Broadway got a hold of me, man. Oh, yeah. How long have you been in town for?

Starting point is 00:20:42 Saturday morning. Oh, really? Did you go at the game on Saturday? Yeah. We kind of made it, you know, with you guys and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. That hockey stuff, man.

Starting point is 00:20:53 That was talking about. He's like the toughest player he's ever been around. Said he literally never come off the field. You only came off because you actually like tore your MCL and you just couldn't really do anything. Said you were also pissed at him for at least a week because you had broke your thumb, I believe. And you looked at Todd and said, do not tell Coach Dunge or I will kill you. and Dunjy apparently was in the training room and you can help put the story together

Starting point is 00:21:15 but Dunjy comes in and tosses he just feels Mike staring at him the entire time and watches him say it and he goes Mike didn't talk to me for at least a week Oh no shit! No shit! No, yeah, I recall that one. I mean, yeah, that was our relationship. You know what I mean? And I wasn't worried about Dunya

Starting point is 00:21:33 so much that I was worried about Gruden. You know what I mean? Because, you know, he won't put you in the game plan or something like that you hurt And so like that you don't know what's going on, right? And I'm like, you don't tell all these guys. You don't tell anybody. And I go, you tell my running back coach, he's cool.

Starting point is 00:21:48 And then he'll sneak me in and play. So I look like I'm practicing until I'm good for Sunday. You know what I mean? Yeah. So you're on film. But that's cool. Yeah, Todd, man. Hey, I need a couple of vitamins.

Starting point is 00:22:00 Can you got them and stuff like that? You know, during practice. Yeah, no, bro. Yeah. Cool, good. Cool, dude, man. Yeah, Todd's all about helping the boys out, huh? He really do.

Starting point is 00:22:08 He'll do whatever it takes to make sure the boys can make it to Sunday. bro, he's the best. He really is. He really is. Really cool. And again, we built the relationship. His family grew up, same age as my family and stuff like that. So it's like, we all were in the league at the same time with the other.

Starting point is 00:22:21 You know what? Cool dude. He's a great dude. Yeah. But so what's your guy's the story? How much time he got? Yeah, no. Like, what I was saying, though, is like, how's the off season work now?

Starting point is 00:22:37 So the way you explain everything, I mean, it's a lot. the way players are, I feel like it has obviously changed a lot. And you can see it from a bird's eye view anyway. But no, but it's like us. It's like us. Like, you know, we'll pass my mind. I always had like fat February, right? February I'd take it off.

Starting point is 00:22:55 I'd eat, you know, anything, right? Fat February. And then March 1st was my like, boom. You know what I mean? Yeah, and stuff like that. So. For me, we were kind of talking with this before the podcast. It's like as soon as the season ends, it's two weeks.

Starting point is 00:23:08 Yeah. And I'll be what. whatever, do whatever. And that's my probably favorite time of the year. It's the best time. Tacos, nachos, huge Mexican guy. Oh, yeah, yeah. Love it.

Starting point is 00:23:20 Margaritas, tequila, do whatever you want. And then you, I feel like towards the end of those two weeks from me, I get like this, you start looking in the mirror and you're like, ah, what's going to happen here? Like, what are we doing? And then you feel like you got to get back after it. Two weeks is, if I go any longer than two weeks, I really start to get jittery. No, yeah. So then when you work.

Starting point is 00:23:39 work out though like for us we're all at the facility we know the whole the whole off season the whole team a whole team yeah it's not like that at all close not even close we're all there man i mean everybody was like we are straight coach for uh frank perano he's a great dude he's great straight coach but i think the way it is now at least how i feel is like you spend six seven months in the same building yeah with the same guys over and over again when the season ends i don't want anything to do with that building right right i want to get the hell out go recharge the batteries, get back to neutral, and then come back in April, May, whenever OTAs, mandatory minicamp is, and then just know that you're fresh in camp and kind of ready to go.

Starting point is 00:24:19 Kind of get to the point where you're excited to be back in the building. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Guys carry themselves a lot like independent contractors now. It's not like, you guys saw it more like probably family team. A lot of different stuff. And I feel like now guys very much are... Leadership.

Starting point is 00:24:33 Like, I mean, I remember at the time, you know, there's a group of us like me, Dave Moore, or Jeff Christie, we lived in St. Pete and stuff. And he was like, hey, how can guys? We started just working out in Ote's time. And long story short is, you know, Donji brought us in. And said, hey, how can you guys are not there and stuff like that? I'm like, well, we're doing it now. But we made up a couple things and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:24:56 And I go, our families over there, our kids are there. We just drop them off school, pick them up and stuff like that. Because we knew he was a big family guy, right? So we need those kids on them. Yeah. He's like, you're playing chess with Dunjee. Yeah. But he's like,

Starting point is 00:25:09 All right. See tomorrow there, right? Oh, you got to text me that from the coach. Like, fuck, I got to go. So the coach would talk to you even if you guys, it was the offseason. Because you got your decision, you know, we just love to see around here.

Starting point is 00:25:22 And we're like, oh, does that mean, you know? So that's the type of coach he was. He was like, hey, let's talk about it. And you're old enough, you'll make a decision. Make sure it's the right one. Yeah, exactly. I was going to say,

Starting point is 00:25:35 it sounded like there was a whole lot of talk. Yeah, yeah. He'll hear you out for a second, but you know what the answer is going to be at the end. It wasn't like, yeah, yeah. What was the CBA like that? What was the CBA like when you were playing?

Starting point is 00:25:48 Because if that were to happen now, there'd be a lot of guys snitching on their coaches. Like, coaches aren't allowed to say, hey, you should be here. Really? Or make the right decision type of thing. Yeah, but there's a thing that's like, like anything else, you know,

Starting point is 00:26:02 volunteers mandatory. Yeah. Yeah. They don't have that rule no more in the NFL? They do for OTA. the OTA period of like April through June, right? Because then you have mandatory minicamp in June. But before that, it's like optional.

Starting point is 00:26:13 It's like OTAs. As guys got like, you know, when you guys use that card, you guys play that hand. You guys feel like you ever can get trumped anywhere? You know what I mean? Like this guy is not, you know, he's not a team guy. He's not this or not. Like that is a worry that you kind of probably play in your head a little bit when you,

Starting point is 00:26:29 if you were to not go. Now the last two years have been funky because this whole COVID thing. Yeah. So they're like kind of we're doing. like Zoom meetings and we're not really meeting together and stuff like that. So it's kind of been iffy making it, I think it's becoming the new normal where, hey, the first couple weeks of OTAs. Oh, no.

Starting point is 00:26:46 I mean, it's going to be like crazy, right? I think right now we're doing this around the Bush thing. How do you feel about how soft the NFL's gone since you've been playing? It is? I was trying to get there. Oh, no, no. I felt it. I was slow dragging it for a while.

Starting point is 00:27:00 But how much, are you disappointed in how soft it's gotten? Because you're one of those dudes. I mean, I think, you know, I think, I think, so. I mean, players kind of feeling it, too, while you're, it's soft, though. It's definitely a soft league in a lot of ways. But it's a weird dynamic because when I go... We didn't take off the pads. I know.

Starting point is 00:27:20 We didn't take off the pads. Listen, I get it. I love it. Maybe it would have gave me, you know, I would have had, like, you know, again, two, three more years, you know what I mean? Yeah. But, you know, I only did three days in college, bro. I know. Listen.

Starting point is 00:27:33 That shit's wild. Right. And that it's like... Fucking so much different. As a newer player, as a newer player, you would sit there and go, well, the money's better now. The quarterbacks are more protected and it doesn't hurt as much as on your body. So, like, it's kind of a win for us. Yeah, I know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:27:49 I'm not mad at you. You have this stern presence about you. I don't know. I know, I know, I know what I'm saying? You're the dungy thing with you and him? I'm like, well, we got going right now. What do you say? I'm going to go, yeah, okay.

Starting point is 00:28:04 At the end of it. You know what I'm saying? How do you guys about voluntarily not going? How do you guys feel? Yeah, you were like, fuck, maybe we should go. I think, I think, too, like when you talk about getting the extra two and three years, like, over time, past players have set, like, every generation helps set up the next generation in a way, right? But at the same time, it also gets a little softer because guys are now taught to see it more like a business

Starting point is 00:28:28 because you realize how the team uses all the players like a business. Like, you're on your one-year deal. Like, you're on your one-year deals in the back end of your career. and you're Mike Allsott in Tampa Bay. You're a champion, you're a pro bowl, you're everything else. And it's like guys before all of us come in and start setting up, negotiating new things to where it puts a little bit more of the, I guess, quote, unquote, power, for lack of a better term,

Starting point is 00:28:49 like in the hands more of a player. Because if a coach is to talk like that to you, it wouldn't matter to you. It doesn't matter to Taylor. But for bottom half roster guys, probably like myself, if I'm younger, back in my younger days, and the coach was like, yeah, we'll see if you make the right choice. I'm like, fellas, listen, I don't want to turn my back on you guys

Starting point is 00:29:04 because I know you want us to kind of hold out and not go in, but my job, I got to fucking go in. No, no question. And now it's kind of gotten to a place to where now the majority of players have figured, not are figuring out how to stand together a little bit more. And every year there's like a different challenge than something else. Oh, sure, yeah. I feel like that's how now the whole voluntarily be here.

Starting point is 00:29:25 You guys are playing the whole, like, business game, you know what I mean? A lot more than the way, yeah, you were talking about earlier. You're playing the business a little bit more than we're just focused on everything else. And so it's like, yeah, I get it. Yeah. Like you said, though, you're a rookie or young player and stuff like that. You're around and you're whatever and upcoming and stuff like that. You want to be seen, right?

Starting point is 00:29:44 Absolutely. Yeah. And how's the question, you know, hey, you're working out? Is it just when you come in, you look good, you look fit and stuff like that? They get you? Now, that's how it's been since I've been in the NFL. Since 2014, it's kind of been like, when after my rookie year, they'd beg, all right, see you in April. You're like, oh, fuck, I can do whatever I want.

Starting point is 00:30:01 Right. You know, going to a bender for a week and a half, wake up. Like what day is in it? And then you kind of get after it, you know? I mean, I just felt like that's funny. Yeah, no doubt. Broadway will do it to you. Broadway steals souls.

Starting point is 00:30:11 Right. It really does. It's like a little mini Vegas, like, more like a bourbon street. Yeah, right. It really is like that. A little cleaner, though. Like, how am I going to look on this podcast? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah. How are you doing it out? But there is, there is definitely a level of like, it's been this way since I've been in it. So for me to say, like, oh, it's gotten soft. Like, you know, not a whole lot has changed since I've been in it. There's one. time it was pretty cool.

Starting point is 00:30:35 Like, I was telling these guys earlier throughout the week or something like that. So I think it was 98, right before we going to the 99, NSC championship game. So in 1998, we were banged up in the middle of the year, right? And all of a sudden, man, we hit a, Dungee takes pads off. And I was like, holy shit. Well, what do you mean? Take out pads. You all right?

Starting point is 00:30:54 You got a fever and stuff like that, you know what I mean? He didn't care. He never changed his demeanor. It doesn't matter. Well, who was it? This next guy up, we weren't going to change. But all of a sudden, we were really banged up. And he's like, hey, take off the pads.

Starting point is 00:31:05 So we go on an 8-0 run, right? And, and... It's an 8-0 run? Well, what I'm saying, we went out of an 8-game winning streak, right? Oh, okay, yeah, 8-0-1. There was, like, and we're off the pads the whole year. And all of a sudden, I think it was like, I think it was week 16. We get our ass kicked in Oakland, like, you know, 50 to nothing or something,

Starting point is 00:31:23 like 34-0-0-0 or something like that, right? Pads on the next day, right? Oh, shit. It's just, you know, it's just... That's how, you know, I grew up in the league. You know what I mean? especially with Dungy. He was, right, we're not going to stray that plan at all.

Starting point is 00:31:38 Right. It was pretty cool. What's the difference between, like, Dungy and Gruden? Oh, night and day. Because Dungy, you guys, you guys were in the playoffs a lot with Dungy. And you guys, in 99, lost that championship game. Then you guys are, you know, getting the wild card stuff like that years after that. Then obviously, Gruden comes in, you guys win a Super Bowl.

Starting point is 00:31:54 But what are the differences with, like, Dungy and Gruden? Ooh, yeah, no, it's, you know, it went from, you know, how should I say it? It was a big difference. It was a big difference, you know. You didn't get in trouble with Dunjie. Otherwise, you're, you know, you're gone. We've seen guys.

Starting point is 00:32:19 You get a DUI. See you later. You have to team. Just like that. Oh, yeah. He was a big guy, man. Hey, you're going to do it all the time, not some of the time. And all the time is the off season, too.

Starting point is 00:32:30 When you're behind, when you're out in the community and stuff like that. that and you're doing all this stuff. And he raised us, man. I mean, you know, six years he coached me. He drafted me and then, you know, he takes over Derek Brooks and Lynch and Sack and stuff like that. Basically, again, there was, there was no, again, we're going to play football. We're going to be community people.

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Starting point is 00:35:02 first tank. Just use the code bussing now. That is code bussing. So when Gruden came in, we were, you know, Brooks is six years. I was seven years. I was six years. I think Lynch was 10. So again, there was, we knew it. It was our team, you know what I mean? Player-led team. It was. I mean, we controlled our stuff. It was, it was cool. A lot of free agents, they didn't make it at our place, right? You got to come in, you buy in, buckball, there's no selfishness. There's no talking shit about us. about players and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:35:34 It wasn't like that at all in my 12 years. Yeah. You guys ran the show out there like that. It was good, yeah. I mean, think about it, man. And don't get wrong. We had some loud personalities. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:35:50 You know what I mean? Yeah, but there's Warren Seth. Yeah. You got a lot of guys. You know, you had some loud personalities and stuff like that. And he controlled that. Yeah. People get, when people are allowed, get that mixed up for someone being an I guy and someone being for the boys or the team.

Starting point is 00:36:08 Right, right. If you're allowed, doesn't mean like you're not in it with all of them. So. Yeah, that's, I just don't feel like maybe, I don't know, you guys, you guys live it. Is it, is it not like that anymore? It's so, so. Is what? So everybody's so spread out.

Starting point is 00:36:25 I don't think so. I think, I mean, when I first got to the Titans, I talked about this all the time of this podcast. When I first got the Titans, it was the Wild West. People were just doing whatever the fuck they wanted or whatever the fuck they wanted. And now, really since if Rable has gotten in, the team is really taking accountability. It's all time. Dude, that's cool. It's crazy because I was just, I was with, uh.

Starting point is 00:36:44 You see these teams having success. You like the Patriots. You see them having success forever. And you're like, fuck, are we ever going to be even good enough? You know? Yeah. It's cool to see, you know what I mean? You moan down?

Starting point is 00:36:56 I'm not going to get there, right? Well, we need to get there a little bit. Come on. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. He sawed his ass down. I don't, dude.

Starting point is 00:37:05 Hey, hey, I don't, um, so, yeah, I was just a mad light. Humble cat, man. I was just a mad light and we were just talking about Vrable. You know, the guys out of Flick or Finch out of Ohio State back then, too, you know. But, yeah, that's cool, man. It's cool to see him do well. Yeah, he's definitely got that attitude that brings everybody together. I'm sure when you play the New England

Starting point is 00:37:33 It's pretty interesting, huh? Oh, you can tell Rable wants it so bad. Oh, yeah. But I think the last three times we played them or four times we played them, we've won three. We lost the last time we played them. Yeah. Pretty bad, actually.

Starting point is 00:37:44 But the first half, we were close, and we didn't have like, we were missing a whole bunch of guys in our team. Making excuses that right now? Yeah, big time. I was like, you know. I think when you get far enough away from a situation, you kind of say whatever you want that.

Starting point is 00:37:53 Yeah, yeah. You're no longer accountable for your remarks. I get it. I don't know, 2022. Yeah, it's true. That's true. The canceled deal. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:02 A little canceled deal out there. But I think Braybill has done a great job of instilling it, like that kind of attitude. Yeah, I know. A lot of guys in the team, younger guys in the team, specifically Jeffrey Simmons, the leadership he brings. And guys are really doing a great job. So. I could see, you know, he just, again, I feel he has that presence around him where you don't want to screw up. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:24 Play for your coach type of thing, you know what I mean? And Will touch on this for a second, but it's so different the way he is in the building and the way he is out of the building. Because when he first got to the Titans, everybody had like, this is like an asshole, always. Always got a lipparin,

Starting point is 00:38:37 sucking on a vape. Yeah. He walked by his car. There's a pet of marblos and that on his center console. Needs to be these. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah. He definitely, when you first met him, you're like, damn. Yeah, this photo, we took that on Saturday. Yeah, that was a whale in the day.

Starting point is 00:38:55 There you go. Look at that. I was like, Ray, what's up? You trying to sign me for a year 10? What are we trying to do? Dude, that's hilarious.

Starting point is 00:39:00 They start doing kick slides in front of him, punt sets. He's like, hey, drag hand, drag hand. And so, but like in the building, he kills Will when Will was on the team. Verbly assaults that poor man. And then outside the building, I think Vrable is, like, Will is his favorite player he's ever coached. Gotta be. He's got to be close. That's cool, bro.

Starting point is 00:39:18 And you're feeling that way on Saturday. I'd say what Saturday. It's just a weird mind fuck, dude. Like, you understand the presence he has in the building, right? And then we'll be in the off season. And I won't even be on the team. And I won't even be on the team. And he'll hit me up.

Starting point is 00:39:33 And what are you up to? Talk about our vacations and this and then. I'm thinking, I didn't know this dude really like mess with me like that. Just because he's like a stern. And then as I came back on the team for my second stint, he would. He would look at like my social media and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:39:46 I'm bringing up. Let's see what our social media marketer wants to do today or what he do last night. But yeah, he bust balls, man. You never want to be in a one of those verbal altercations with him. That's what Matt Light said. Well, it's tough too.

Starting point is 00:39:57 because if you kind of get on him too much, then he'll flip the script on you. And talk about how shit you can play. He'll be like, hey, listen, it's not that big of a deal. What are you making a big deal? And you're like, what are you doing? You know we're just fucking around right now. Yeah, yeah, like, hey, block so and so.

Starting point is 00:40:12 Yeah. All right, now you're just bringing up fucking tape. Like, God damn, dude. We were going to give up a sack three weeks ago. What will be? Kind of weird shots are raining down on me right now. Be a better linebacker than you were in week, too. It's like, oh, okay, that's a fucking end.

Starting point is 00:40:24 That one hurt a little bit. That one hurt a little bit. All right. Straight bullets, dude. Just keeping those holstered. How was it with you this year, man? You got to, you guys, you got to film you in. I haven't talked to my boy, Basashi.

Starting point is 00:40:36 You know what I? Yeah, so, Basachi, I went there probably toward the end of the year in November. He fac-signs me and calls me up because we had just bunched to each other's balls about saying happy Thanksgiving and stuff to each other. So he calls me up. I think he's calling me to, like, bust my balls again about something. So I'm ready to, like, give it back to him.

Starting point is 00:40:50 He's like, hey, are you in shape? I was like, I can play. And he goes, for real, don't fuck with me. Like, can you, could you play special teams if you had to? I was like, yes, I can play. And he's like, all right, I think we're going to work something out. Anyway, long story short, I end up going out to the Raiders. But being with Basachi when he was the interim head coach after everything that went down with Gruden, like, it was awesome being out there with him.

Starting point is 00:41:13 You know Basachi. He like, you would fucking like Mike all saw a wall for that man. No, no question. No question. He's the best, bro. I mean, you can speak more more. He wanted me to bring up. I mean, we call them muff-mouth and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:41:25 It would be a little goatee, right? And so... Muff-Mouth. Yeah, he came in. Yo, he said he's so he wanted to... He's like, ask him how I ended up locked out of my room at 2 a.m. the morning in my underwear. He said, ask him about that. Ask him about that.

Starting point is 00:41:41 What is that about? So we, we're at camp and then me and Jeff Christie, my center, I was hung out with you fuckers. I don't know why. You all I'm going to go. They're the best. The old linemen are the best, bro. You are, no question, man. But the thing is, we come back, we're in camp,

Starting point is 00:42:01 and we come back from across the street, and we had a couple beers, right? And so we're just getting feisty, getting on his door. So he came, we're banging on his freaking door, right? banging on his door. And all of a sudden he runs out and, like, freaking try it. He jumps at me and tries to take me out and stuff like that, right? He's a crazy motherfucker now.

Starting point is 00:42:20 He's a guy. He just jumps at him. He comes out of room where I was wanting to, and freaking tries to, you know, get his shot in, right? Yeah. And then go back in his room. The fucking door clowns is closed. He has no key.

Starting point is 00:42:32 I mean, he's wearing his underwear? Yeah, just in his skin piece. And, you know, he's going to go to the key. I'm like, you go to a key. I'm going to my room right here. You go to your own key. So you had to go all the way down and get his another key. And he comes out to get you.

Starting point is 00:42:44 And you're like, all right, fuck off. You go back to your room. And he goes, yes. He has, he had there in his underwear. Yeah. God, that's hilarious. He's fucking small Italian, man. just.

Starting point is 00:42:53 Oh, he's great. Is he a little like that? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's not that big. Yeah. He wears his, like, peeky blinders, the, what is it, the paperboy hat, newsboy hat? He wears that around the games. I don't think that's a technical term, but I knew exactly what you were saying when he said it.

Starting point is 00:43:07 You know, small Italians got the accent fucking old motherfucker you and he's got his little hat on and stuff. Got a gold chain absolutely has a cross on it. Yeah, he's no question about it. He's funny, man. When he first came in and he's doing his special teams being like at the old, one buck it was crap, right? We had all our team meetings in our locker room. And so everybody's got to be on a special team, so a special team's meeting, you know,

Starting point is 00:43:32 and stuff. I remember him talking with me. He was like, just scared and nervous and everything. He just came out of Clemson or something like that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like Gruden. Right. Bruton brought him in the league.

Starting point is 00:43:43 Right. I get on him all time because he's all nervous and he's stuttering and stuff like that. She said to bring that out. You always get on his ass. Yeah. Oh, I cannot wait to have this as a clue. Hey, besides you, man. He said, but he's, I mean, he said the same thing.

Starting point is 00:44:01 Like, we're talking about all the, like, off-season stuff, training, like, how guys are now, like what they were like back then, what they're like now. He was like, dude, he's like, he talks about Mike, like being there 5.30 in the morning, doing running back drills, then going in the way room all before the day starts. Jesus. And it's just so much different. And so, like, I sit here and it's like the same thing, right? He seems like one of those, like,

Starting point is 00:44:24 like, badass old school dudes that you're kind of like, damn, we're kind of soft in front of this, man. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like a feeling you have. You're like, man, am I worth it? Yeah, do you look down? You guys know I'm here, right?

Starting point is 00:44:36 You guys know what I'm sitting right here, right? Do you... Am I worth it in front of this man? We're having a therapy session. It's a joke. It's a joke. But do you, uh, maybe it's not looked down, but do you, uh, maybe it's not look down, but do you,

Starting point is 00:44:51 look down at players the way we are now. You definitely have been sitting in your living room before and be like, these fuckers are so soft now. I think what's interesting too, because you're a head coach, right? Yeah. Yeah, you're a head coach. So you're like instilling a lot of values and trying to like tell guys what it really is. But obviously, like we're kind of our generation is more the example for them now

Starting point is 00:45:12 and you're kind of trying to communicate with them in a good way. So I do think it's interesting, like how. Two each is on the type of thing. You know what I mean? You guys didn't create what the situation is. for you. So when I was, you know, coming up, you know, that's the way the situation was. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:45:27 Can't blame you, but, you know, you know. You feel like it's more like... Don't be that soft guy, you know what I mean? Right. Yeah, yeah. Do you feel like it's more of like, these guys need to appreciate, like, what they're actually getting to do more so than it is, like, hey, I understand everything's a business, but fuck, you guys are playing in the NFL and living your dream, like, love of the game? There's, there has been, uh, since I retired and probably in the last five years, I'm like,

Starting point is 00:45:51 Are you kidding me, bro? All right? You kidding me. You know, one situation. I don't know, you know what I mean? Yeah. The taunting rule is, I mean, it's like, man,

Starting point is 00:46:00 appreciate we to figure out because, you know, before you're over it, because I cried like a little baby when I told me I couldn't put the pads on them more, right? 34 years old, I'm crying in my room, you know, like a little baby. And you fuckers don't want to suit up and play.

Starting point is 00:46:14 So, during you, he's talking to you, no, no, no, no, no, just like, no, just, you know. You want to hear it. You know what I'm seriously? No, it's just in situations. You know, it's nothing, you know.

Starting point is 00:46:26 But again, yeah, no, we, we were, you know, work-hard, play-hard type of people. Yeah. Oh, that's what's nuts to me is because I'll, you know, I'll be hearing some stories and stuff like that. And talk about how, you know, you would have a few of the night before and be able to do all this shit. And it's just, it blows my mind, like, the fucking type of animal that is. I feel like there's a level of being clouded. Like, the more the world's, you know what I'm saying? evolves and there's so much more information given to us.

Starting point is 00:46:54 We know more shit about how to take care of our bodies. But on the other hand, like, if we didn't know any better, we'd still be doing the same shit. We would be drinking beers or whatever. And one thing twice about it. Like, we sit here and go... Doing double days.

Starting point is 00:47:08 After fucking getting sauce when, like, going hard and fucking with Basaja night or something like that. It's like, that is wild to me. Like, I couldn't even think about doing that shit. Some guy jumps at me in his underwear and the next day I'm just doing double days. Like it might came up, hey, yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:47:20 It might came up, hey, come. Taylor, you guys trying to, you guys trying to hit the bar? And it's like, hey, I'm trying to be ready for practice tomorrow. I can't function that way. It's like, all right, pussy. And then he comes out and starts. The will and be broken. You go up on Saturday.

Starting point is 00:47:32 You know, I asked me to come out with me on Saturday. I was like, hey, you're about to have a kid. How can you let's go out? Well, I didn't even have your number. And this is like, this is the first moment we've met, right? We would have known you were there. I'm sure we would all been together at some way. I didn't know you were there.

Starting point is 00:47:44 But we got out and got pretty rowdy. And, you know, as the game was in, I'm like, Will, let's go out. Let's go. As soon as you're going to have a baby and you're not going to be able to go out. I know. You have a leash.

Starting point is 00:47:54 Yeah. Oh, that's tough. Hey, it's hard. What are you going to say to that? I'm just saying I had been day drinking all day long, man. I knew what it was. Like, I knew when we went out, the fun, the peak of the night was at Nissan Stadium for us.

Starting point is 00:48:09 Yeah. We were so rowdy. We were yelling. I was already losing my voice. Thank God I got it back for this pod. But it's like, I knew if I went out, we were going to be standing there. It was going to be like 2 a.m.

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Starting point is 00:50:02 There's energy ones. So they're all herbs and supplements or stuff. There's CBD in them. So it's basically an alternative dip, right? And it has all natural stuff. And again, us dippers, you know, back in the day. You know, the stimulation is having something, you're lit and always

Starting point is 00:50:16 Yeah, that oral fixation. Right, exactly. So we have a healthy dip, right? No nicotine, no tobacco. Does he mess me up or no? Say it again? He's going to mess me up? I think you'll be all right.

Starting point is 00:50:29 All right. Yeah. I mean, we're talking. His threshold might be a little different than yours, well. I think you'd be all right. Fuck, okay. So again. We won't, we won't even, we won't mention the competitor out there.

Starting point is 00:50:42 We won't mention the competitor at all. But this is just like the healthy. alternative because everything's organic? Yeah, everything's organic. Everything's healthy. Everything's, you know, green tea, you know, and herbs and vitamins and stuff like that. And then there's some CBD in there. But there's different levels of it, right?

Starting point is 00:51:00 Blue cans, they're from more chilled, right? And then the green ones and the wintergreen and stuff like that, they have a little bit more, you know, natural. There's a pack of 25. There you go, bro. I don't know. I'm not a dipper. You don't need a dipter. Not a dipper.

Starting point is 00:51:12 You don't need a spit, though. That's the thing is. Hey, you know what I'm going to because fucking Mike Allstate is. Doctor formulated. So some of these have CBD in it? Yeah, let me think here. None of these here have it?

Starting point is 00:51:26 No. I'll get them to you. CBD is one of those things that... I'll get it to, but I really don't understand. It's wintergreen. CBD is one of those things I really don't understand why the NFL isn't like, go ahead. Go do it.

Starting point is 00:51:38 Like, just try it. Yeah. Because it's like... Everybody else has, isn't they? I mean, yeah. I don't know. I don't know enough about it to say yes or no. Here we go.

Starting point is 00:51:47 I do think that like... Hey, you don't need to chew on it, right? You don't explode in your mouth. You'd be like, oh. What do I need to just put in the left? How do you do it, Mike? I'll stop. Dude, did you happen to...

Starting point is 00:52:04 When was your last year? What year was it? Oh, 7, but I was... I had surgery, right? So we're getting back. You know how everything plays around with this? That's the world you get the... That you all come familiar with, right?

Starting point is 00:52:17 Topics. Right? And then all of a sudden, you know, you'll, you'll remember it later. You know what I mean? Yes. Right. But it's about, you know, again, getting old and maybe a lot of head hitting, you know what I mean? So, but I come back- Oh, buddy, you bang that fucking head.

Starting point is 00:52:33 Yeah. I mean, you did too. You're talking about. Yeah, for sure. But, hey, come on. Don't know. Come on. Yeah, I did the shoulder, ankle, ankle.

Starting point is 00:52:42 No. No, no, no. Don't disrespect me like that. Every time I start to get away from me. Don't disrespect me like that. College, NFL. I'll probably put Mike on his fucking back. Hey, yeah, this shit does.

Starting point is 00:52:54 Hold on, one more thing about the pouch. And I definitely want to get back to that. There's nothing in here that's going to, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, nothing. So what do you get out of it? Just the idea of being able to get off of, you. I'm trying to think of those bad thoughts

Starting point is 00:53:10 of what tobacco does to you, you know what I mean? Yeah. Right? Got that stimulation that I've been used to by dipping, you know what I mean? Yeah. Dude, when my dad would try to quit tobacco, he would put like raw oats in his mouth in his lip because at that, back then there wasn't an alternative. Obviously, now there are.

Starting point is 00:53:26 Plus it's healthy, brother. Right? Yeah. All right. Just asking you, Clay. I want to learn more about the product. He's supposed to healthy, brother. All right.

Starting point is 00:53:35 Yes, sir. Yeah. But, uh, yeah. Besacci, what a king, man. You know, I'm really, uh, I'm sad for him. He tried, like, years and years and years to get. that head job, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:53:48 I mean, even like college, you want to, you know, he wanted to be the guy that he was this year, right? Right. I was just shocked they didn't retain him maybe for a night and another year and do what he did and through the circumstances he went through, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man, especially with the interim head coach, like, obviously is rare for what just happened. Wherever he goes, I mean, I don't know what he got paid, right?

Starting point is 00:54:10 But he got paid, like, handsomely to be just good with the Packers, right? and be the special coach. I mean, he's that type of quality coach. You know, he always has that HC, you know what I mean, next to him, you know what I mean? Assistant Head coach, you know? He's just a great dude, man. I mean, you love him, bro.

Starting point is 00:54:28 You love that. Everything Will told me about him during the season when we were watching that Raiders bangles playoff game. He'd fuck with you hard. Yeah. That means a lot coming from here. Mike, I'll stop. Thank you.

Starting point is 00:54:38 Just playing it up at this point. But no, dude, that's, I've heard only good things about him. He seems like a dude. He was telling me, like, the Raiders, guys would be like, he was really hard on dudes, but then we're just also, like, take you at the side and tell you how much he loved you. He likes to get after it. How did you explain that? Because he'll motherfucked the shit out of you, but also, like, you know how personal he gets, too.

Starting point is 00:54:58 I don't know, because I try to explain it to people. Yeah, no. It's like, oh, he's fucking tough on you. But at the same time, you just know. And I think maybe he's one of the reasons my neck hurt because I think he gets, he likes his white Russians and stuff, man. And then we were at the freaking, uh, when we went a Super Bowl, we had a big old party. I think he must have head buddy me 100 times at night. Boom, am I.

Starting point is 00:55:18 Really? He says he goes, ask him who had the hardest headbutt. Oh, him. He doesn't like sneaky, you know what I mean? You know, like... Just sneak up on you and headbutt you? Hey, Mike, come down here real quick. Bafia.

Starting point is 00:55:31 But, yeah, good dude, man. Family's great. Sounds like you guys got some good head coaches, man. That's cool. Yeah, very well, definitely. It's all starts, though, you know what I mean? I can't believe besides you didn't get a job, but, yeah. after everything you guys have said.

Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah, it's crazy too, right? Like, he was a generation before us and he's still got besides your stories and you still, I'm not the only one saying all this stuff or the Raiders players. Like you're talking about somebody who played for him in Tampa speaking the same way about him. Did you ever leak into playing with Adam Hayward?

Starting point is 00:56:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you really? Adam, yeah. So Adam was my like, I would say like Big Brother mentor whenever he came to Washington. Oh, yeah. Because he came to Washington, he was like, hey, come, man, if you're going to fucking.

Starting point is 00:56:13 in this league, like, you got to know how to play special teams. Because I also always saw a backer, but special teams was more of a learning curve because I never played in college. And Adam was, like, a savage on special teams. Yeah. You got any of the wild stories? Because that's a crazy one of the fucking team. He was a younger.

Starting point is 00:56:28 And if I did, I don't even remember, bro. I mean, just, you know, great dude, though, man. And that's kind of like how it was. Like, Shelton Corals are middle lineback when we won the Super Bowl and 03, right? Yeah. But he was a special team guy for, he was a special team guy for five years, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm.

Starting point is 00:56:49 And he came from Canada, but you linebackers, you better make your way as special teams. Yeah, if you're not a superstar like, you know, on Tampa, like Devin Weta Levante David,

Starting point is 00:56:58 but you're at somebody who'd be on special teams playing everything. Yeah, yeah. You guys get paid a lot of people of special team roles. You're a shitload of money and all these. Compared relatively, maybe to back in the day. Yeah. What's the special team are you getting paid now?

Starting point is 00:57:09 I think it depends. I think maybe the best got to look at would be like Slater, right, who's played on new team's. If you're somebody who makes their hay on special teams and you're there, say you're a linebacker and you're going not to be a starter and you're going to be a depth guy and you're just going to play teams, you're looking at probably two to four a year. If you're a stud.

Starting point is 00:57:27 Two to four. Coach. This motherfucker, he makes 16 a year. Oh, no, I'm mad at him too. Yeah. I didn't do nothing either. He don't even know how to have this conversation. He's like, I mean, is that good?

Starting point is 00:57:40 No, I'm actually asking, like, what's a million? $1 million in the last four years. What was it? The last four years I played for a million dollars every year. Yeah, man, he's so nuts, bro. How the market's just gone up like crazy.

Starting point is 00:57:56 Right. And you got, you know, him. No, I'm not mad at you guys being dead. No, no, the only difference is like when we were born. Like, that's like the only thing that is fucking different, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, of course.

Starting point is 00:58:10 Do you think... When you're born... You're playing right now. Like, you're just born later than you. And so I was like, the mark has just gone up. But if you were playing now, imagine if you're in your six right now. I don't know if it would be a, I don't know if the game would want my position, me in that way. You do you actually not think that or like knowing what your skills.

Starting point is 00:58:28 I disagree. I disagree. And here's why I think running the ball is actually coming back. Titans are doing it. Well, you see the way the Packers run it. You see the way the 49ers run it. Like, it's not power ISO football anymore. It's like wide zone.

Starting point is 00:58:42 but you still need that fullback. We had a guy, Tori Carter, 44, who's like young, was a rookie this past year. He's got your type of vibe. Work hard, play hard type dude and gets the fuck after cats. He tries to end dudes. Yeah, yeah. And I think he's, I think that is actually making a turnaround like five, six, seven years ago, it was, you're throwing 50 times a game.

Starting point is 00:59:03 Yeah, right. There's no reason to have a fullback. There's really no reason to have more than three tight ends on a team. You're in 11 personnel the whole time. And now it's really become, you know, The teams that are having a lot of success on offense, you see a good balance of running the ball and passing the ball. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:18 I think that's transitioning back. So I do think if you were playing right now, there'd be a big commodity for you. Yeah. What, uh, you got to step behind you, huh? Was that? Oh, Derek?

Starting point is 00:59:29 Oh, yeah, man. Did rolling ball, butcher knives. Holy, do what he is. Wow. It's wild, too. Well, the way he runs, because he's so big and strong that dudes take bad angles on him, and he's fast as shit.

Starting point is 00:59:42 And then guys are so worried about getting run over. He just gives him that little bank. It's unreal. No, it is. It's amazing being the size he is, speed, and then, you know, you know, do the things. It's crazy. It's wild like when you're,

Starting point is 00:59:56 because everyone's living their own movie, right? So, like, when you got in the NFL, you're like, it's a Mike Allstot world. And you're kind of like doing your own thing and trying to figure out your legacy. Right. And Derek's the only person. And while I have like these goggles out of like,

Starting point is 01:00:07 how am I going to, how's my legacy going to look? He's the only person I've seen being like, wow, that's fucking. cool to like watch somebody and be able to call them a teammate because you know like how great they're going to be. Oh, yeah. I think that Derek's that dude. He is, he's a dude that when it's all set and done, he's going to be the best, easily the

Starting point is 01:00:24 best running back in Titans history. Oh, yeah. Titans Oilers history. And then I think, you know, he's going to get it. Yeah. Yeah. If he didn't get hurt this year and listen, this is going to, Vrabel's going to murder me for this.

Starting point is 01:00:37 And that's where he pauses the tape and goes, well, then you shouldn't have said it. And now we're unpausing the tape. So he doesn't have to pause. the tape anymore. Hey, but that dude, if he didn't get hurt last year, I really, I mean, he would have murdered that record. I believe that, I believe that in my heart. Yeah, yeah. Because he was on a role. So,

Starting point is 01:00:52 and the dude's work ethic is crazy. That's good here. Oh, it's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's music to my ears. If Derek rushes for only, like, good, you know, you see these guys and, like, right, and blah, blah, but, you know, he puts it in. Oh, he puts it in, then, then

Starting point is 01:01:08 I'm like, if Derek rushes for, like, I know, 110 yards, He won't talk to anybody for a week because he's fucking pissed. Yeah. He'll rush for 60 in the first half. I'd be pissed off. I would just hit you in the back of the head. It's your fault.

Starting point is 01:01:22 No fucking down. Oh, dude, I'll miss a block and he'll get a tack on the back and he'll coach me this night. He'll be like, hey, what happened? Hey, what do you buy you for Christmas? This year? Oh, come on, you can't remember? No, I remember because he's heard this year. He heard this year, but the year before that he got his Rolexes.

Starting point is 01:01:38 Yeah. That's a nice little deal. Did you buy your house out there right now. Oh, hey, where's that Rolex? He used to go, he's a very watch watch. Did you ever buy your own Lime and Guests for Christmas? Yeah, yeah. We did different stuff, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:01:51 TVs or whatnot, you know what I mean? Remember? I didn't know. It's not been that good, you know? I didn't have, you know, that. But anyway, yeah, I took care of them. I was more like, just go out and hang out. Have some pops.

Starting point is 01:02:06 You know what I mean? Yeah, have some pops. And when Cadillac rushed for, I was in a year, really, really? Dirty. Right? And he brought us some nice watches too. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:02:16 Yeah. Some. Like the move. The watch thing. Yeah, right? I told him, I was like,

Starting point is 01:02:22 you win that record. We need some Tesla. No. The boys need Teslas. He just laughed at me and walked away. And I was like, I'll think that as a hard maybe, you know?

Starting point is 01:02:31 Right. But, Derek, he's awesome, ma'am. He's cool. He's like, he's just different.

Starting point is 01:02:38 And it's, you know how, like, everybody nowadays is social media, everyone says, you know, God's choice. This guy's different.

Starting point is 01:02:43 Derek's just legit, a different dude. Right. No, yeah. You can see it. You can see it. And now, like, I think with all the instant gratification, if you have a good game when you were playing,

Starting point is 01:02:54 it wasn't like worldwide news. It was like, hey, you had a good game. Let's keep moving forward. Now, guys have one good game. It's all over ESPN. It's all over social media. Oh, this move. And with Derek, it just,

Starting point is 01:03:06 he just doesn't seem to phase him. Like, he's got the talent and the instant gratification, but his work, I think, is stupid. Yeah. And that's what people behind the scenes appreciate, you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, they see him and they talk about that, you know what I mean? Like you are.

Starting point is 01:03:22 Yeah. And stuff like that. But stupid crazy. He's got a good one, man. So you actually think, like, with your skill set, you wouldn't have been somebody that was valuable in this league today? I'm not. The way I see the offense is being played,

Starting point is 01:03:41 No. I mean, like, if I go to... Did you run for a thousand one year? Man, I'm, you know, I bring out some bad situation. I was 40 yards from breaking up. How many people, and this is... How dare you bring this up, well? I'm just saying, like...

Starting point is 01:03:54 I was 70 and 99, like 30 or 40 yards away from it, right? But because I look at it, like, man, how many people has ever broken a thousand yards in the NFL, right? Mm-hmm. I don't know. I mean... It's got to be worth of Google right there. Right. But the thing is, uh,

Starting point is 01:04:11 You know, it's so close, but, you know, we got the, we got rings and everything and made up for it, you know what? Yeah, I mean, you see offense is like what the Titans have and everything else. It's like, obviously, I think your value would still. Yeah, you know, you're taking an heartbeat. Yeah. We're thinking an heartbeat, no question. I don't know about that.

Starting point is 01:04:28 You got to ask the part of the other guy. Is the other guy? Tori? No, uh, your boss maybe, right? John? Or John Robinson? John Robinson? Yeah, John Robbins and the GM.

Starting point is 01:04:38 Oh. No, listen, I think. I mean, he's like, Mike Alstant wants to play, he probably would be like, yeah, a guy like that

Starting point is 01:04:46 who's just going to go and roll over dudes? I mean, I mean, dude, we've all seen the goddamn highlight tape. So go, going back to that.

Starting point is 01:04:53 There's literally, like, you can have all the town in the world, but you have the intangible of you're just willing to put your face on somebody and end them.

Starting point is 01:05:01 And so there's really like, there's no supplement for that. Like, you're going to make in the league. Listen, there's not, man. He always said,

Starting point is 01:05:08 and end them. Fucking end them. Like, if not, special teams and that did. And then you got dudes looking at hey, we got double this guy. Pick one and him.

Starting point is 01:05:16 I think that's what the beauty was of our team though. It was like everybody knew the role. Yeah. Right? Nobody tried to get outside their cylinder of their responsibility of that team. You know what I mean? And everybody kept their mouth shut

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Starting point is 01:07:29 right? So I did go back to Maroon and get the fusion. And I fused six and seven. Then I came back and played, um, so four, five, six. And I was going into seventh training, camp and knew it happened eventually just didn't know when again you know i um her needed a c3 c4 i and that's what that's what made me stop but again you know again what a great game you know this thing

Starting point is 01:07:55 is uh you guys are fortunate bro and you you know what it's pretty cool man you know what take it for everything oh i know man it is crazy like we've we've we've all gotten to play yeah at the highest level right football like a game you like you like you're out in the front yard and for me it was like there's so many guys and those kids they're like I'm like what's your list of schools right? Mm-hmm. You know me to contact whatever and it's like I just give me 10 or 15 and look at the list and like, you're kidding me.

Starting point is 01:08:27 Yeah. All right. Again, you're this level guy. So you know what I mean? We are that guy, you know what I mean? You know that I think a lot of people take it. When I got hurt, that's when I were. really open my eyes and said, you know what, I can't take this for granted.

Starting point is 01:08:42 Right. You know what I wasn't taking it for granted. But you just didn't understand when it's gone. It's gone. You know what I mean? And I was, you know, I was insane in my ways, though, that I would have played forever. Some people aren't like that. Kind of like, oh, boy, they just retired from the bucks.

Starting point is 01:08:58 Oh, yeah, the guard. Yeah. He's all pro, wouldn't he? Or a pro bowler? Yeah, you just said, see you later. I don't know why. I haven't heard of yet. Seven years.

Starting point is 01:09:06 We're talking about Aaron Donald retiring, too. Oh, wow. I don't know if he is. I was, I mean, the rumors or whatever is that he, that he's going to be like McVeigh. Like, McVeigh's coming back, apparently. If McVeigh's coming back, he's going to come back then. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:21 Yeah, you'd be like an Andrew Whitworth. You know, the left tackle for the Rams. He celebrated his 40th birthday in December. Then won a Super Bowl. After winning Walter Payton Man at the evening. Being in the trenches. Man, he was, holy smokes. That was an unbelievable speech, huh?

Starting point is 01:09:34 Oh, my God. Yeah, he crushed it, man. Dude, I mean, it was like, giving me goosebumps. He was like, Oh, bro. Yeah. He's a well-spoken man. He is, he's an incredible person, too.

Starting point is 01:09:45 Like, the first time I met Andrew was at the Pro Bowl, and I, like, brought, like, my family out. And I was like, let's go dinner on me. And there was just nice restaurant connected to the hotel where I, and Witt kind of stopped in, shook my hand, said hello. And I had, like, 10, 15 people with me. That's cool, man. And I was like, hey, everyone get whatever you want.

Starting point is 01:10:02 Like, it's on me, blah, blah. Well, the check comes. And they go, oh, Mr. Whitworth took care of it for you. And I, like, he just walked up to me. He said, hey, congrats on him. your first pro bowl. I was like, fuck,

Starting point is 01:10:11 how cool is that? Oh, that was really cool. Yeah. It was really cool. It was like him. It was him in year 10. I think Joe Thomas and year nine and me.

Starting point is 01:10:21 I was like, a kid in the candy stuff, these are the dudes. These are the two guys like you look up to and watch. And it was just awesome to be a part of. That first one was a cool one by far. That's pretty cool, man. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:10:31 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Hawaii was cool. We didn't do it. They did in Orlando. Oh, man. You didn't get to do it. No, no, no.

Starting point is 01:10:39 The first one I made was the year they stopped doing Hawaii. Oh, man. Hawaii was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Hawaii's beautiful. I mean. What kind of like events and setups did they have for you guys?

Starting point is 01:10:51 Just like kind of do what you want? So everything's right on Elani Hotel campus and stuff like that. And it's kind of off the strip and in the northern part, I think, of there and have a big old lagoon and everything like that. and just we took over the whole thing, the NFL took it all over, you know what I mean? That's awesome. So they had practice fields out there. And so secluded and stuff like that.

Starting point is 01:11:15 And it has its own private beach for, you know, families that take little ones to and stuff like that, whatnot, right? Or they had the pool and here's guys drinking at the pool bars, people in the beach, you know, just everybody was everywhere, was there. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Having all over under one roof is the best because then you get these guys who you played against or dudes that you look up to or guys at your position.

Starting point is 01:11:35 Like Orlando, right? Yeah. Like, everybody stayed at the resort. You know what I'll tell you this. And you guys, you guys being Orlando, oh, let's go see Mickey. Let's go see Minnie. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:11:45 You're going to Disney World, right? It was a cool experience from the standpoint that the, everyone was under the same hotel, which is really cool. And there was, like, kind of one bar. Right. So at night, we were all at the same bar, drink and having a good time. You need to meet a lot of guys and kind of make relationships. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:12:00 But they, like, Universal Studios. They'd shut down Universal Studios for a night. Oh, yeah. And so it was just you and the families. And no waiting in lines. nothing like that. They had, they did a really good job. They could open up more roller coasters, to be honest.

Starting point is 01:12:15 Because he like took me as part of his crew and stuff and we were out there like, oh, dang, it's all opened up Universal Studios and some of the stuff. They kind of shut it off. It's like, well, hey, thanks for bringing me, Taylor. This was great, man. That's cool. That's a great story about, you know. Oh, dude, he's, since that day, like, I've just admired him.

Starting point is 01:12:32 I liked him before when I was a fan of his. Yeah, I've admired the guy. The what he does in the community, the way he does. the way he handles himself. How many years he is this? 16, 17. Oh, okay. Because I think he came in older.

Starting point is 01:12:42 He played a, he was like a fifth year senior. Okay. Then he got drafted. I think he was drafted in the second round. Played the Bengals for 11 years and then played at the Rams for six. I had two different lives. What's this story? Like, are you going to continue?

Starting point is 01:12:56 I think he read off the time. He hasn't said anything yet, but. I think he's, I think he's done like, while you go out on a Super Bowl. Yeah. He was on a Super Bowl and Walter Payton Man of the Year. Oh, yeah. There's no.

Starting point is 01:13:07 Oh no. He got hurt last year. Oh, right. Everyone thought he was going to retire then, and he comes back. Yeah. And he just plays. And you know what, dude? He played well.

Starting point is 01:13:15 It's not like he was like a liability. He played fucking good all year long. Right, right, right. Dude's played 239 games. Started 235 of them. I mean, that's incredible. Yeah, it's amazing. Do you guys got anything?

Starting point is 01:13:31 You know, I know we got to, we probably got to wrap up. Yeah. Here soon. What do you guys got for Mike? Seeing the game is softer today. Who are some guys that you do like, though? How they work out there? No, now you're putting me in a spot.

Starting point is 01:13:43 I don't follow that much. Are there any fullbacks that you look at that feel like are kind of like a style you like? I know they're kind of seem like a dying breed, but... You know, the kids from San Francisco, you know what I mean? Still keeping it going a little bit, you know, with the athleticism and stuff, you know what I mean? And get involved in the game.

Starting point is 01:14:03 but you know it's just I don't I don't follow it too much anymore I don't think I think I mean that's how I was growing up too man I was in my own world you know I mean when I was in high school it was all about high school football I didn't I didn't know anything about college or anything like that again you got to understand that thank God there wasn't cell phones back then you know I mean yeah I mean it gets your shit in trouble right no question we talked the other day about if there was Twitter when we were 12 we're canceled right game's over for us I've said to And then don't get me wrong, I wasn't it, you know, that at the same time is we got after it a little bit.

Starting point is 01:14:37 You know what I mean? That's also what you find out of boundaries. The way people can take it out of context. Oh, big time. Like we could be hammering and. That's our world. Everything's out of context. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:14:48 But anyway, it's like, you know, I had some, you know, probably that kid they were talking about. You know, I watched, you know, just, you know, big, bigger type of backs, you know, like your guy. Yeah. You know what I mean? I was kind of similar. know that way too. I'd never watch football growing up at all. Oh, wow. Yeah. And now I only watch it because I play it. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:11 Or because they pay $16 million to do it. Yeah. Probably should watch some film. Yeah. Make sure I can keep that job. It's a nice deal. That might be a good suggestion. Keep that thing alive. Yeah. Who are some guys that you used to get up for?

Starting point is 01:15:25 Like, who were some guys matchup-wise that you would go against going into the week and get hype for? Um... I don't get, I don't get hyped. I never got hyped. I got to the stadium five hours for the game. I went outside and played the goal post game and do all that stuff, stretched a little bit.

Starting point is 01:15:47 You know, just sit out there and just, I knew all the video guys from every stadium. I knew them all, you know what I mean, and stuff like that, because I was out there with them when they were going to test one, two, one, two, and shit, you know what I mean? Yeah. And, you know, I'm worried about me, per se. Did you ever talk shit?

Starting point is 01:16:06 No. You a shit talker? Mm-mm. No, like Ray Lewis or nobody? Mm-mm. So you just hit somebody, they say somebody and just walk back to the huddle? Um, no, you just say, what's up, I'll stop? And pay me any ass or something like, what's up?

Starting point is 01:16:20 So if I were to talk shit to somebody and they would just turn around and walk away, like, God damn. That man's a psychopath. Yeah, he can't get in his head. No, he's good. You know, Mike, he had the neck girl. He probably had the hip pads that went, the belt went through the hip pads. Oh, yeah. The butt pan?

Starting point is 01:16:35 But it's like, yeah, no. So, you know, I played against, you know, Earl Locker two years, two times a year. You know, played against, you know, I played a lot like him. It was good, man. It was good. It was like, you know, you just couldn't know how to, it's like anything else.

Starting point is 01:16:54 It's like playing in the same league you playing, you know, you know, exactly how that, and that defense ends going to be, you know what I mean? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But it's, it's good. good deal brother.

Starting point is 01:17:05 Hardest hit you took. Anybody that you, any play that you think about, you like, oh, he kind of wrong my bell a little bit there. Obviously, you don't tell him, but. There's a, my rookie year when I was in, my rookie year were in orange and white, right? So it was just the guy named Ron Cox. I mean, he was a defense,

Starting point is 01:17:24 he was a linebacker for Chicago, and he liked to lead with his head a lot, you know, I mean, so we met heads, and I was like, ooh, shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. I didn't remember the next play I had a head. ask. That's awesome. And I love that he's like, what was his name? You said Ryan Cox? No, Ron Cox. Ron Cox. I love it's like, it's not, people probably go say Ray Lewis, this is this.

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Starting point is 01:20:12 Yeah. And I understand why people would use these to kind of curve that appetite. Yeah, no, definitely. Yeah. So you just got to find your taste. They have coffee there. They have all getting crazy with a lot of them. It's pretty cool, though.

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Starting point is 01:21:23 What do you guys do the rest of the day now? Go work out again? Yeah. No. He said go work out again. Yeah. Dude, it takes a lot to look at this average. Right.

Starting point is 01:21:33 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, grind it out. Like, what did you do this morning? This morning, I just did like a lower body and then this afternoon I'm going to do like conditioning, speeding conditioning. Oh, yeah? Yeah. What was your 40 time? Oh, I'm glad you asked.

Starting point is 01:21:45 It was a 4-8. Oh, that's pretty good. Yeah, thanks. What was yours? Ooh. Was. Was a 4-8? Yeah, it is a 48.

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Starting point is 01:22:23 675? Yeah. But again, it was in... That's... And I'm learning this now, right? I'm learning this now because I'm... the more the better. Uh-huh.

Starting point is 01:22:36 The type of guy, right? The more the better, the more you're tired, you know. Right. I mean, that's how we, that's how we train. You know, I mean, it's just like old school. But again, all this is a scientific way of, you know, more is not better, you know what I mean? Right. And so, again, with the whole palometrics and all that stuff that you guys do, like you said, you know, you're going to use speed and condition, right?

Starting point is 01:22:59 Mm-hmm. I mean, that was not a hurt of, you know what I mean? when we were working out. I mean, we did some ladders and stuff like that. But, you know, again, you really emphasize a workout for, you know, speed and the agility and stuff like that. Well, you just spend a whole hour. We just incorporated ours and, you know, in some sessions, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:23:17 And the harder it was, the more you guys felt like you were probably doing something. Right. Right. Yeah. How hard is it touching, like, the way you play? I throw the shit out of the ball. What's that? I throw the ball a lot.

Starting point is 01:23:31 Really? Do you really? Yeah. I would not have guessed that. No. I didn't mean either. No, but my son about a quarterback, so I kind of got that. But no, we were inside, outside of zone team.

Starting point is 01:23:44 We'll do power game and stuff and counter game. But, you know, I like the, you know, we're no huddle. All signs and everything, get on the field, let's go and go after it. Very progressive. Yeah. Highly conditioned team. Highly conditioned team. Sometimes, yeah.

Starting point is 01:24:04 Yeah. I love it That's what we ran in Michigan The first two years Kind of just get used to it Yeah Look over, card, get down Right, right

Starting point is 01:24:13 You guys do the clap? We don't do the clap, no No, see, I've never did the clap But I always wonder like, How do people hear that when they're away? How do you possibly hear a clapping noise? You know what I'm saying? To get off the ball

Starting point is 01:24:26 Yeah, no cost No, I'm asking Maybe somebody else can tell us I've never played an end Yeah, I know Yeah, I'm always Let's go set hot Come on.

Starting point is 01:24:35 Yeah. So, but pleasure. Dude, yeah, this was a lot of fun. Yeah, we had a blast. Oh, yeah. Thank you. And when somebody was like, hey, would you guys want Mike Allside? I was like, yeah, we fucking want him.

Starting point is 01:24:47 Yeah, 100%. People ask us. I got to go call Todd and they got to tell him sorry. Yeah, you got to tell him sorry. Yeah, you got to hit him up. Because he goes, is he in Nashville? I go, yeah, man, he's about to come on the bus. Because I was asking my, hey, you got any stories for me, this and that.

Starting point is 01:25:02 And he's like, so he's in Nashville. He's like, he's supposed to tell me. Oh, fuck. He goes, he was supposed to tell me. I know. I told him, I said, hey, come to the bus. If you're in town, he goes, oh, we're at Indy. We're at the Combine.

Starting point is 01:25:12 So you probably would have saw him anyway. That's what you got to tell him. Yeah, I knew you. I knew he was in Indy. I'm a little better. What a big win. You know, he was in India, right? Yeah.

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