Bussin' With The Boys - Mike Vrabel

Episode Date: July 10, 2019

Taylor Lewan's worst nightmare comes true. Head Coach of the Tennessee Titans, Mike Vrabel, joins the boys on the bus to talk about his playin' days in college and NFl, along with his journey through the coaching ranks to become a NFL head coach. While Bussin', Coach Vrabel absolutely murders a member of the bus.Website: bussinwtb.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/  Merch: https://hangtn.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boysFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm so excited to have you on today. You know why? Because we're going to have a little lesson. You guys are little tiny puppies. You're just getting potty trained. And you guys are getting more responsibility as you go, and I'm really happy for you. What I need you to do, if you can listen to me, listen to my soothing voice. I need you to go.

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We're still getting them clicks, my babies. All right? So it's going to be okay. You're going to be okay because I'm going to hold your hand through the whole thing. Boy? All right. Our guest today is probably my biggest nightmare come true. My guest today, our guest today, the bustling with the boys, was Mike Rable.

the head coach at the Tennessee Titans. Not only is he a head coach before that he was with the Houston Texans for two years. Once as the D.C. And then a year before that was a linebacker. We keep going backwards. It's like a reel. It's like a Quentin Tarantino movie.

We're going backwards before we go forwards. So now we're going backwards even farther. Now we're at Ohio State. He coached there for, I believe, one or two years. Not really important because it's Ohio State. Nobody cares on the bus. So now we go back. And I'm going to just going a long way here.

The man played 14 years in the NFL. Boy. If you're thinking, how good is that? Well, the answer is the average in the NFL is three and a half years. So pretty good. Okay? Okay, he did pretty good. A lot of guys don't do as good.

So he did pretty good. All right, 14 years there. Played at Ohio State before. So you can tell he doesn't make the best life decisions. But I will tell you the man is very charismatic. He's a great leader. He's got a lot of fun conversation. He just absolutely butchers will.

It's very unfortunate to see it. And I'm looking at one of my best friends on the highway, like roadkill. And I don't know what to do. Do I drag him off the road or just let him suffer? Or just wait for that semi-truck to hit him again. So we know for sure he's dead. You know what I'm saying? Because he ain't going to make it regardless.

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bus and with the boys thank you boys big hugs and remember Danny baby just want you to know he's not going too good so you we've had to tape a couple You can only imagine Good ones, huh? Yeah, this bus was picked up in Mississippi So What were they using it before this? What were they doing with it before this?

It was a NASCAR bus Like they were taking it to different NASCAR events Yeah, just partying It actually ran? Yeah, he used to run And now it's Will's home We're trying to get it running again Call Jeb

Yeah, dude, Jeff will get anything going Joe got this thing, the generator running Good for Joe, we're rolling All right Thank you for coming on busing with the boys Will and I don't want to be here tonight We are We are we're about to go on a dark road

Let's tell the truth now Let's tell the truth who wanted to come on the bus I did Okay cool I wanted you to come on to You've been dodging me That's not true Daddy is home just in case you guys

Oh Hey Okay first off let's just hit it real quick All right I don't know if you see on a little the TV, there's three keys of success. Kill it. The number one most important thing, and I know

you can read, but I'll say it for you. It's our podcast, not a squad meeting. We're running this thing, baby. Will did a good job. Rashon, you're writing this shit down. It's important. All right. Number two, don't interrupt the boys.

You might be thinking, oh, this is a good time for me to come in. You're going to get met with a quick, oops. Sorry, we made a mistake. We interrupted. We're going to move on. All right. Hey, come on, juice. Don't start with that guy.

And Juice is already ruining the podcast. And then last thing, can't settle for field goals, Eagles game. Yeah, you were a bit of a hero that day. There you go. So we got two things. Did you put those together? I did. I'll do my best.

I understand that this is your podcast. I will try not to interrupt. It's our podcast. It's our podcast. I know. He just pays for it. You're in charge. I got it.

We already got shots fired. I love it, dude. Hey, but you had texted, you had texted Taylor and say, hey, when's Will going to stop dodging me on the bus? Right. I don't think I texted him. I walked in the offensive line meeting. Well, that's happened.

Well, it goes back way farther than that. If we first started this podcast, you were like, you kind of gave me like that, all right, so whenever you want dad on the bus, let me know. Because every time he comes in the old line room, he opens the door, and I never look behind me because I always assume it's him. Right. And he walks behind me. You know he's coming to a hair.

Yeah, he comes in. He's always got three in the trigger. Yeah. Ready to go. Three in the chamber, baby. Baby walks up, goes up right behind me, slaps the shit out of my back every time and goes, Daddy's home, boys. What are we doing?

and I'm just like, what are we doing that? What are we going over? But it's, I mean, it's a decent idea. I mean, summer ratings dip. You just bring daddy on and then let's see if we can get a little. We're going to get clicks. Early July bump. But the main thing is you have my number.

You've always had my number. I have. And I know you wanted to speak to Taylor, but Taylor told me and I'm like, I'm like, oh, that's a nice little fire. Like, when's Will going to stop ducking me about? I'm like, you know, the boy, he's got my number. We can, we can know, we can make it happen. Well, we go to camp July 23. and, you know, obviously a lot of things can happen.

The three of us or just the two of us? Yeah, right now it's just going to be the cure of us. Right now it's just the two of us. Hey, I'm not going to lie when he said we got Camp July 25th. Oh, is he just going to take a shot at me right now? Braybill's going to open the door and John Robinson right there with like your letter getting you invited. Oh, man. So what's going on with that?

You like Riley Bulla better? No, it's not that we like Riley Bulla better. We do not have to do this. We're not going to. No, no, we're not. Do you want to? And listen, if everybody wants to know the answer, it's pro football. A lot of those things happen.

That's the definition. It's the business. It's pro football. It's part of the gig. Guys, yeah, I get it. Willie's not in the room anymore. Like, it's pro football. It's the way it goes.

I still say it because it still applies. You're consistent. You're consistent. You're going from good to great this year, I can tell. We're doing our best. We're doing our absolute best. Hey, did you think about your funny subject matter, the way he wanted to be treated? Yeah.

So, like, you're my boss. And so I got, there's a, there's a fine, line, right? When I can tow and I can't toe. So I got to know, like, do you want special treatment while you're on here? Do you want to be treated like everybody else? I think you can ask me, whatever you want to ask me, and I have an opportunity to answer it however I want to. Okay, cool. God, he's, he's, he's, he's well-versed. Well, all right. Tell me about the first time you, uh, masturbated. How was that? You know the, you, you, we've been through this. It wasn't that great. He's, it wasn't that great. We've been through this. These are, these are our conversations

that go on in the old line room. and so you can't answer you can't ask a question that you already know the answer to tell me about the first time you lost your virginity what was that you already know that oh i don't know everybody has to rank one to ten it's like one to don't say that two some guys are like a three first off hey i don't know you i don't know the virginity story that's the old line gig when you're in our room it's just straight let me just tell you what jane rsian jane rashon jane listen to this religiously it was with my wife our wedding night it was a very special occasion so It was amazing. It was amazing. So special. I love that, dude. I love that answer. Five minutes?

That's a record setting for your first time. Oh, everyone just taking a drink of their whiskey. You got to follow up or no? What is that? I know you basically shut down both the funny, fun questions. Oh, what we got up there? So let's start from the beginning.

Ohio State. Okay. You grew up in Ohio, right? I did. What made you go to Ohio State? Were you like a... I was going to go to Michigan. What?

Yep. Oh, here we go. I didn't know that. you would call it Michigan lean up until the time I took my visit. And then it didn't go well. It was a bad one of those bad visits. This is back in when everybody took visits. Like you didn't commit until you took a visit after the senior year.

And that, you know, that's how it was. And so went to Notre Dame. I loved it. But it really wasn't in play. Michigan was still the lean. And then I took my visit in December. Next week went to Ohio State and realized that Ohio State was the, place for me. But I really just, because I went, I went to a football camp. I went to the Michigan

football camp with my buddies in high school. Just went up there, staying in the dorms, was out running around on the field. And they asked, this was when Gary Mueller was still the coach. And they said, Coach Mueller went to see him, I'm thinking, we didn't get in trouble already. We only been here like six hours. Yeah. And so then he offered me a scholarship just in his office. I had no idea. Like, I wasn't being really recruited or anything. And then he offered me a scholarship and played my next year and went up there on Saturdays for football games. And, It just wasn't a right fit. Just wasn't right fit when I got on campus.

Was there something specific that happened during your visit? Like the guys, you just didn't mess with the dude there? Yeah, the guy that they gave me, it didn't go well. He said he got sick. But then, you know, Lloyd, I would tell you this, Lloyd Carr's son, Jason, salvaged the visit. Yeah. He was phenomenal. And to this day, I remember the visit because of Jason.

So it was that bad to where. He wasn't my host, but he's like, dude, I know you're not coming here, but I'll make this night fun. And it was because of your visit when you change. your mind? Yeah. Wow. Because I think to me, the thing I told Tyler when he went to Boston was looking at colleges or even when now Carter's looking is don't pick the school because you have a relationship with the coach or you think the coach is cool. You've got to pick a school because of the players and the school. The players don't leave and the school never changes. But the coaches, y'all from $200,000 more, they're leaving. I don't care what they say in recruiting. I told every kid I recruited the same

way. If something else comes along that's better for me and my family than Ohio State, I'm going to go but Ohio State's still the best place for you and that's what happened I went and I'm going to to the Texas yeah and had to call and I went I left before recruiting I'm like I'm not going to wait till February 3rd to leave and go to the Texans I'm going to leave in January when you know the job is ready yeah and I told every kid that I was recruiting this is the best place for me and jan and carter and Tyler and Ohio State's the best place for you yeah you had you had a you had a good you had a good like recruiting story I think you told me who was it uh some linebacker that wanted to bring you into Ohio State and you like left the baseball game to like go see him

at Ohio State and you're like, listen man, like I'm not. He ended up at Georgia and, you know, it was just, you're at the beck and call of some of these guys and they're just, and he's like, I thought this would be a lot better. I was like, listen, man, I left the baseball game to come, like, see ya. Like, let's do the stadium tour where you want to go. But my kid over here playing baseball down the street. And you always kept a rule with the recruits that came in that saying you were going to, not that not that you're going to leave, but you're like, listen, like, it's the business.

I don't think you ever publicized to another player like, hey, there's a chance they won't be here. No, but I always told him, like, just because you may like me or you may like your position coach, like, that's great. But if you don't get in and see the players and hang out with the players, those are the guys that you, I mean, your best friends are the ones, my best friends are the ones I played college football with. And some of them from pro football, but obviously the ones that you, you go to college and you kind of figure out who you are. Like the high school is tough. It's, you know, a lot of kids, my kids moved around. They're in different high schools. but you get to college, you kind of figure out, like, who you hang out with, who your guys,

like what they like. And that's kind of where you figure out, you know, who you're going to hang out with and be friends with. I got you. And fast forwarding after college, you got, you, you were drafted in the third round, right? Yep. To the Steelers. Your transition from like, what happened at the Steelers that made you a longtime guy with the Patriots? So I think what happened was they tried to play me at D-Line.

I tried to play D-N in Pittsburgh. So literally my first year, I think I played six. positions. I played like three technique, five technique, outside backer, and I mean, I was all over the place. Just because you were kind of tweener. Because I was really mean. Correct. But I salvaged it on some role on third down in special teams. Then I was in a car accident and I lost like 20 pounds. And so they were like, well, we think you'd probably be a better outside linebacker. So I ended up learning how to play that position. Took a little longer. It took probably two years until I was ready to start.

By that time, Joey Porter was starting, and I was playing, but I was rotating. It was like to play a series each half. So my contract came up, and Belichick offered me less than what I got as a rookie signing bonus. It was just an opportunity deal. And Cowher was like, I think you, I can give you that money, but I can't give you the same opportunity. So then I took the opportunity. And you're with the Patriots?

How long? Eight years. Was that your favorite? that was probably your favorite stand well i mean obviously i mean it's where we had the most success as a team uh individually you know it was good i'll be honest with you have my first what eight years of four years of high school and four years of pittsburgh i was no longer than two hours away from my house where you're saying four years of college four years of high school yeah four years of college excuse me and then four years in the nfl i was no more than an hour and 45 minutes from akron ohio columbus and

Pittsburgh. So it was kind of like it was good for us as a family to get away and just it was us. It was us for Carter was born when we were up there and it was just good just to be able to get away and not have just friends, family being there every single minute. And a lot of your buddies came from the Patriots. I only say that because I saw you at the, I saw you in a picture at, what was it, the Kentucky Derby with all the boys. And I'm sitting there like, I'm sitting there chuckling like, look at Brayette. just with the boys that, like, that he played with me.

He's a head coach now that he's probably there. Like, hey, boys, remember when I whipped your ass this past year? You know what I mean? Did any of that trip and go on? Probably. I mean, a pretty good chance. I would imagine that that went on. But it's unique to still be able to.

I mean, suckup was a rookie when I was a player. Yeah, that's right. Kansas City. So it's kind of funny to look at him and see how he's grown and he's got a wife and kids and he's still playing. and I mean, he was a rookie when I was still playing in Kansas City. And Kay Lou. And Kay Lou last year, right.

You know, I think the one thing with the Patriots is the first year that I signed there in 2001, there was 26 new players on that team. Like Bill had completely just flipped the roster from 2000 to 2001. And Willie McGuinness was a holdover, Teddy Bruske, Thai Law, Lawyer Malloy. And we drafted Seymour that year. And Tom, you know, Brady was. was a holdover, but, you know, he really was just a backup quarterback. And then Bloodsoe got hurt, and I think in the third week, and Tom kind of came in, and, you know, we kind of got on a roll.

And I think we won nine games after Thanksgiving, if you can imagine that. Before Tom played, you could you tell he was special? You're like, this guy's a dude. And I watched him work. And I did think that he was a dude. He was a leader. He was a dude that when we went out in training camp and we had a night off or whatever, he was right in the middle with the boys and, you know, having a good time. And I get that that's changed over the course of his career and his life and, you know, his family and as he's gotten older. But I think you recognized early on that people would play for him, that guys would play hard for him. And we threw a lot.

We ran the ball. We threw a bunch of screens. Troy Brown had like 105 catches for seven and a half yard average. I mean, it was just we manufactured wins that first year. But there were so many new players that the Larry Izzo came in. And we had so many new guys that we didn't have a chance. chance. There was no other way than to come together with the holdovers that they had and then all these other new guys that Bill had signed in free agency. How did you how did your mindset change?

Like after after you playing with the Patriots for eight years and you, how long did you play at KC? Two. How much did your like mindset change like as you became more of a veteran in year after year like those last couple of years in kc how did they differ how they differ for you from patriots to kc you kind of know you're on your back nine and obviously you're you're stacking up a lot of years but how much does your psyche and stuff change in your way you're the way you probably go about work doesn't change but you probably have to force yourself to do you know and i've and i've said this story before with um about how i ended up in kansas city i had a year left on my contract and and i wanted to finish up in new england and it was i'd like a new contract or or trade me and

and Bill opted for the trade. And he called me and said, hey, we're going to move you to Kansas City. And Piole had just taken the general manager's job. And so I said, I guess I should probably call Scott. And that's about how long the conversation lasted. Oh, snap. And I called Scott because I had a roster bonus to, I think, the next day. And he needed me to fly in and take a physical.

And, you know, Bill and I didn't talk for, I guess, the next two years. And then I started coaching Ohio State. And I asked him, I called him. And I said, what do you think about coaching? And, you know, we talked a little bit. still obviously close but you know i think when you get traded and haven't been somewhere for eight years you know there's a lot of emotion that that goes on you know half the family roots for them half the family roots right right right there's like some bitterness yeah i think so but then

you know that's why i try to have a lot of honesty with with players even now just haven't been through that but i but i was a i was a rookie that really didn't play that was a special teams player I was kind of that third four year purgatory where you're not starting, but you're, I got to make this roster every single August. I got to make sure that I'm on every special teams, and I know I'm a backup in more than one position. I don't know, Jen, we'll see.

You know, come down to the third preseason game when, you know, we've got to play, and we'll see what happens. And so I've been that guy. Then I got an opportunity to be a free agent. It wasn't a cash free agent. It was an opportunity free agent. It wasn't, hey, take the month. take the biggest contract. It was take the best opportunity. And then, you know,

worked my way into a contract where I was a player that was making good money that needed to perform, that needed to make sure that he was earning that contract. And then I was a veteran player who probably, and not probably, but who wasn't as good as he was when he was in his 10th or 11th year that had to be a leader and try to get Tomah Lee and Derek Johnson and, you know, some of these guys, Jamal Charles, Ryan Suckup, for example. We were at a young team in Kansas City, but that somebody that had to lead and try to be a coach on a field. Yeah.

Yeah, because being at the, like being at the, I'm sitting here about the, being with the Redskins for five years and you go and like they don't, they don't like, you know, a deal doesn't work out. Or you guys come in, you guys offer some Redskins don't want to match. And you're like wanting to go back. You're like, you know, you're on the phone. You're like yada, yada, yada, this, that the other. And when you go to a new team, like that bitterness.

you were talking about, you're kind of like, you know, half the family roots for them. You kind of, you're, when we played them last year, like, I mean, hell, I was in the, I was in the meeting room with you guys. Ready? Carter had West, they played the Saints in 2000 and, I guess it would have been nine, Monday night and Castle and Matt and Lauren came over and Jen made dinner on a Monday night and Carter came down with a Welker jersey and Jen's like, take that goddamn jersey off. And he's like, I'm not, he's like, Welker's my boy.

And Jen's like, no, we're not rooting. We're like, this is a route for the Saints night. Yeah. And Carter's like, no, like, Welker's my boy. I'm like wearing his jersey. So it was, but that's kind of, we always, half the team will root, half the family will root for the warriors and half the other team will root for the Raptors,

just so he can have some banter in the house. Yeah. Did you know you were always going to coach? I think I probably did, but it did, you know, I was so focused on trying to play. And I think like you guys, and when you get done playing, there's so much that you want to do in the office.

season and obviously trained, but whether you want to travel or hang out or catch up or whatever you want to do, go back. In our case, we went back to Ohio. And I tried not to really think about it, because when you start thinking, I think about your next career, then you're really not thinking that you're finding as much football. Yeah. And so I didn't really want to think about that until I probably got to Kansas City. I was like, okay, we probably ought to find out what we want to do after we get done playing. Yeah. And that's when it started to hit is when you're at Kansas. And And then it kind of all, it really happened fast. I was doing the Players Association.

Yeah. We were in the kind of the CBA negotiations, and I was on the executive committee. So we would fly to different places in the country and have meetings for a week. They would always change it up. We'd go to Washington, New York, Minneapolis, and Chicago. And that would all come in on, like, Sunday.

And then you'd be gone until, like, Thursday. And so I knew that as soon as we put pen to paper that I was going to retire. Well, on Memorial Day, Jim Truss. got fired at Ohio State and they named Luke Fickle the interim head coach. Well, Luke was coaching linebackers and he was the defensive coordinator. So Luke on May, whatever, I don't know, 21st or whatever it was, the Memorial Day fell in that year needed a linebacker coach. Right. And there weren't a, you know, a lot of guys have already had jobs and everything else.

And so I was like, man, I need a reason to retire. And he came over and talked to Jen and I about, you know, just wanted to make sure that she was on board with, you know, what the time, you know, it's going to be a different schedule and everything else. And you guys are tight. Yeah, no, yeah, he was the best man in my wedding. Yeah, he was the best man of my wedding. And now he's at Cincinnati. And he was also my host when I went to Ohio State.

So he did a better job than the guy at Michigan. I guess so, man. I got to call Michigan and they messed up a little bit. That's crazy. So when you transition and all that, like, how did Jen handle those hours? Because when you're, do, like, college coach, that's crazy hours. And it's crazy that you're putting your job under fire with 18 to, like, 22-year-olds. I don't think that she's certainly.

didn't mind the season hours. The hours that kind of catch you off guard are the ones in the spring where you're gone. You literally get on a plane Sunday and you're gone until Friday because it's spring recruiting. And it's Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Florida, Atlanta. It wasn't like just going to Akron and just like going there and driving back. That was the tough part where I realized like, man, like the season is the season. The schedule is identical as a coach when you're coaching college or your coaching pro. Except for the fact that, you know, I may check in on a couple guys or text them during the week at night or something like, but in college it's, it's 25 text messages or direct messages

on Twitter. It is. You get home and even though you might get home at seven, you're sitting there at dinner and a kid's direct message in you or texting you're like. Yeah, do I really want to do this? Dude, how much does it suck like stroking like the high school kids off? Well, it's really become an issue. And I think that you look at all the guys and not that everybody, you know, a lot of five stars make it and a lot of five stars get drafted in the first round and become great players.

A lot of five stars fade away and you never hear from them again. And, you know, it's the reason why our league is it made up of guys from Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Pennsylvania, and maybe eventually we'll get down in Nebraska. Yeah, like, let's need to the fifth of the second. And then second, no, second podcast. Alabama and Greatest comeback of all time Against Rable They go from everywhere

Praxanmally got hurt You guys come back of all time Against Rebel And so I can't say shit I was one and three They develop Everybody develops at different levels

And You know I think that that's It's called de-recruiting Like these parents nowadays And they're so involved And these parents are taking pictures With their kids On these recruiting visits

And jerseys And stuff like that And I'm thinking They have no idea what it's really about to happen as soon as they sign. Obviously, I did. I was a player. I went through the recruiting.

I got there and, you know, they tried to beat the shit out of you. And then I did it as a coach. And it's called de-recruiting. And I remember being on a visit at Boston College and sitting there and listening to the parents say, oh, my gosh, you should have seen Johnny in the championship game. He was amazing.

And the coaches are like, oh, wow. And I'm just rolling my eyes and I'm thinking, don't worry about Tyler. He's been derecruited since birth. Like, I've told him he sucks since birth. I've just de-recruced the shit out of the people. You don't have to worry about Tyler. He's been de-recruited, so you don't have to worry.

He sucked. He can barely block and don't worry about him. But we call that de-recruiting. Yeah. That's got to, I can definitely see you have it a hard time with that. Well, you have to pump him up to get it because you know the other guys are good, like, Clemson, and you get into a recruiting battle, it's like the kid's going to start. He's going to have a single-digit, you know, defensive linemen.

It's a single-digit. He's going to start. It's going to have 10-sats. You know, you just promise him the world. just because you know the next guy is doing the same thing. And you just say, be honest with him. Like, you might play. We're hoping that you play.

And I don't know. I didn't do it long enough. I only did it for three years and, you know, got some good players and got some guys in one other places. Yeah, you raise those ranks pretty fast. Like you went NFL, college, boom, right to the pros and now you're here. Well, I think you try to do the best job at the job that you have. And then, you know, I've never, you know, there's a lot of guys that work the phones in

college. Like they're calling right now, hey, you know, I heard so-and-so may get a job. If he moves on, man, I'd love to be your defensive coordinator. Like, I never call, you know, there's a lot of guys that work the phone. I've never called anybody. You don't do that. I've never called anybody. You know, Bill O'Brien got the job with the Texans, and he called me after the bowl game at Ohio State. You know, we had a little break after the Orange Bowl and he said, you know, I'm going to take this job and would like you to be the linebacker coach. And Jen and I talked about it and decided that, you know, going back to the NFL where we spent 14 years would be the best thing.

And then was the linebacker coach? And then, you know, Chip Kelly called and asked the interview as D.C. Went out there, interviewed, decided not to take it. Stayed with Houston. That was at Oregon? No, that was at San Fran. Oh, okay. That was at San Fran.

He called me. I was on a chairlift in Utah. And I got the boys on either side of me. And Jen's back at the lodge. Hello. And he's like, I want you. I said, I don't have a single notebook. I got snow pants.

As long as you don't care if I show up in snow pants and a t-shirt, he's like, just let's talk ball. So it was really the best way to do an interview. Everybody comes in with a presentation, a booklet, and a book, and a package, and a PowerPoint. I rolled in there with a couple bar napkins, a couple notes on a bar napkin. You're lying.

You had a bar napkin? Swear to God. That's awesome. Because I said, listen, I owe these kids at least the rest of this trip. It was like a two, maybe two and a half day ski trip. And I said, this is our first day. Like, I cannot come out there. until these guys get on a plane back to Houston.

And then I'll fly to San Fran. And so they flew back after the trip, which was like two days, it was like Saturday, Sunday or whatever it was, and then I went out to San Fran. Didn't end up taking it. But my point is, you just do the best job and the job that you have,

and then usually people come find you. Yeah. You do have a really good agent, though. We have the same agent. We do. We have the same agent. It's unfortunate. You guys can both be CIA guys.

Well, you for sure could be a CIA guy. I don't even. even know what CAA is. Creative artist agency. It's the C agency I'm with. John Robinson. It's one of those Uber, Uber agencies.

We're just the best, man. Who do you call it? Who's in charge? Tom Condon, baby. Oh, yeah. That's my guy. Is he? Yeah.

He's the man. Pat's like my day-to-day guy. See, Pat's the guy that he has to get to, like, under. And then who do you call when Pat's not available? Who do you call? I call it. Jonathan Hurst. No question.

I've never talked to him in my life. Really? Oh, shit. That's the love all my boy. when you when when you started to get older and you started to realize like man like it i i i don't got it like i used to like what was that transition that was that was jen because i think to myself i'm like i'm sitting here year five going into year six and i'm thinking like technically i'm you know over the hill or on top of it i guess

and then that decline starts like for most people right like 10 people start to show a little bit or like even i think it all depends i mean i think genetics has a lot to do with it training and and just a lot of luck but honestly it was just Jen, we went out to San Diego, and I was with the Chiefs. And they had Ryan Matthews. He was a rookie running back. And I probably had eight miss tackles. I mean, I couldn't catch him.

I couldn't tackle him when I could catch them. And I came back and I landed. And I got home and it was late. And she was like, how much longer do you think you can do this? Oh, Jesus, Jen. That's tough, Jay. And I said, Jen just being a realist. What year was this for you?

Probably 2010. I think it was probably 2010. it was the year I retired and I was like I don't I go was it that bad she said you just didn't look like you were you looked when you were like 28 I said well neither do you but I'm not telling you to quit I'm not telling you to quit oh man she's our number one supporter on bustle with the boys too is she a very bad a yelp review coming up that was I mean she was just like how much longer and I was like I don't she's like I don't you just don't look the same and she was you know but she's seen I don't know and now that I'm coaching I mean she's seen probably 400 NFL games I mean whatever

18 years in the NFL, 19 years in the NFL, 20 games a year, whatever it is. And she's seen plenty of games. It's got to be a kick in the dick, though. You're just like, you had this big dream in your whole life. I think that's important to find somebody that is honest with you. And that's a great, I mean, she's an amazing wife. I think that it's not somebody that sits in strokes you off and like, oh, you're so good. You do everything perfect.

And, I mean, it's honest. I mean, there's when it's, when it's bad, it's bad. And it's, you know, hey, I come home now. And she's like, what was LaWan doing? I said, I don't know, Jen, why don't you ask him? Yeah, we can definitely see that. I'll definitely see in that meeting conversation. I'll have some for his ass on Monday morning.

There'll be times like, it's a week, I have a weekly text from you during the season. It's like, hey, Monday will roll around, but hey, you know, decent job on this, work on that. And then, hey, nah, it could be better this way. Like, it's always like, you're constantly like running the train, man. You text everybody that or is it just? No, I do. I mean. It's just between us.

It's just between us. Okay, that's what I thought. For now. He never, never, never texted me. Until the next guy gets a podcast. Besides he said, hey, hey, next guy gets a podcast. Besides, he was like, hey, great job on the skit. That's about it.

You're still living the skit, man. That was the last time we texted. That was one of the best. Until you asked him. If we wanted to sign you, that text? I didn't. I didn't. I've never asked that, dude.

Get the. That group chat. That group chat. Did you think that was coming? So for everybody that's listening, like Braves texted us a picture of a son and his buddy at a concert, right? It was during CMA Fest. Yeah.

And his buddy was wearing a for the boys shirt. Yeah, it was Tyler and then his buddy. For the boys. His buddy. Center. The center on his team. And then me and Will are together. We're at the house hanging out.

And we just start killing. Like, not really me. It was really Will. Started like photoshopping suckups, your face on suckups body. The three of us laughing. And I said, I immediately regret. Including Will. I was like, he's for the boys.

And you sent the picture of, uh, you pointing at Riley Bolo, you're like, is he really for the boys? And then I crop the picture of Rabel's head on Suckups' body when we're walking to the plane. Yeah, you also had a picture of you and him during the Miami game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, remember. Yeah, I said, remember these days? Yeah, I said, remember these days? Dude, that's so funny.

You said, I immediately regret texting you guys. Yeah, and I sent a, what is that? There it is, dude, that is hilarious. That's so funny. That's you able to zoom in on that, P.P.? Yeah. Oh, dude, that's hilarious. That is funny.

So how's this thing been going? I mean, how's the review? I mean, I have, I apologize, I haven't listened to one episode. Well, where can I get it? That's fine. That's fine. Is it on Apple? Is it on Apple or a podcast?

It's on everything. Yeah, it is. It's on Spotify. Yep. Okay. You pop it on the way home. Because I'm going to get in that RV tomorrow and I will listen. Dude, Arthur's a solid one too.

Arthur's amazing. Dude, Arthur's a solid one. So I caught that. So Jen told me to listen to that, live and die in L.A. Have you heard that podcast? No. Right. So this is like this crime.

So Jen's a big podcaster. Well, she has been lately. But it's like a true crime thing. And this girl will just check it out on Spotify. We'll check it out. We'll give it a good look. I think it's like the number two. It's 15 million people.

It's probably 15 million more than listen to your podcast. 14.999. Pulled up to live and die. I don't need to see busing with the boys. Do I get a T-shirt or what I get a shot class? Yeah, you get a T-shirt. We'll get you a T-shirt. Great.

Got you that. Does it have a stain on it like yours or no? This one is a stain? Not to sweat mark. Oh. I sweat, man. I'm a sweater. Yeah.

The red was happening. I was like, I definitely can't wear a red around break. Check it out. What's up on? Live and Die. Which one did you say? Is it about murder mystery or what? Yes.

So it's like a true crime deal. And the guy takes you through. He's like a writer for the Rolling Stone magazine. Oh, that's dope. And he does this like interview. He works with this like private investigator because the LAPD just basically, they just close the case and they're like, yeah, whatever. We can't figure out who did it.

Oh, no way. So this dude like goes on this like manhunt. Yeah. Dude, Jen's a podcast. Shout out Jen for being. a fan of buss I don't think Fan of Bustle with the Boys

I thought you said She's discovered I thought you said she listened The buses with the boys To make you feel good That make you guys feel good Do you ever watch that Do you see the Ted Bundy film

On Netflix? Yep That shit was wild It was whack We do Yep Which one of the tapes The tapes of the movie

I haven't listened to all the tapes One but the video of Zach Ephron playing him It's crazy He's like To the very end is like I didn't do it I didn't do it

And at the end of it At the end of it writes hacksaw on the smoked up stuff or whatever, the steam. That's crazy. They say that you walk by like 10 serial killers in your life. Like you just by just walking by people. What do you think about that, Braves?

People about just walking by cereal killers all the time. What the hell was that? Welcome to the bus. I'm with the boys. I kind of wonder like this whole thing with like the fentanyl and stuff going around last week. It was like two weeks ago or whatever. Like we're 30 people OD or something. It's like they put the dust.

It's in like cocaine, right? You've been in Nashville? Yeah, yeah. I'm in Nashville. Oh, we sent that on TeamWorks. Did you send it on TeamWorks? Yeah, we sent it out on TeamWorks. Oh, my God, dude.

So, anyway, not food good. You got to, you got to defend yourself a little bit. I can't help you. What am I going to go in on right here? He's my boss. He's, you know, I honestly, I try to throw you off a little bit. Oops. I try to throw you off a little bit.

No interrupting. No interrupting. It's for everybody. I should have, oops. I should have, oops. He's interrupted. You're interrupting. I will come on, dude.

He's slinger for the fences right now. I don't even know what. I was going to talk about. I'm going to get out of here. Fuck, I don't even remember what I was going to say. Dude, Buck.

Oh, fentanyl. Yeah. There's like people, that's like a big thing right now. People, they put like, that's like a powder that you put in like cocaine and stuff. Yeah,

because they said you like cut it up, but what is it going to do? Is it like a better high or is it just going to kill people? No, it legit is like a terrorist thing. Like it kills people. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

It has nothing to do. Because they said they were putting it in the weed and they're putting it in the meth and cocaine and anything. That's wild. It just kills people like It like yeah well I mean when you snort something Your brain That cavity goes up to your brain That's what makes you high

Yeah yeah I get that It must shut something down in the brain I don't know the science Literally I have no idea that then Jen sent me something And I went down to chick and I was like dude There's like 30 people who have died in a week in Nashville And they think it's because of the fentanyl They've OD'd

Yeah Damn Right there we're going to get tight Nashville Fetano You can cut it You sell it for cheaper Well, yeah, but you can cut it with baking soda, right? Or baby you want to kill somebody to make it cheaper.

Right. That's what Michael Jackson died of. Fentanyl all over those. Like dose of deaths in Nashville. Yeah, I had no idea. I didn't, you know. He's been living in the bus. It was a big Coke guy, too.

Been living in a bus. Just live in the bus. We're got to vandy and come back to the bus. Like, hey, Taylor, come over and do a podcast. Like, I can't today. So when does this run? When does this go? Years will go. We'll have Roman Yose next week.

Hey, oops. Yep. We'll have Roman Yose next week, and then you'll be on after that. Great. We, I got to be honest with you. I'm very impressed how you, how you answer. I thought to myself, I got to rattle you from the get-go, ask you the jerk-off questions and the losing your vagina.

And you handled it. I don't know why you keep looking at me. You're built for it. I mean, the media stuff. But the thing is, you can't come on the bus and give these PC answers. Every day. Do you guys understand? Yeah, but we're not those guys.

I talk to these guys from the day that training camp starts until the season. every single day. I mean, I talk to them more than I talk to my wife and kids. Think about that. Who's your least favorite one? Well, the easy answer would be Keherski. Yeah. Well, I love how you said his name wrong, too.

Yeah, Kerrski. Yeah, he did tell me that. I did his podcast. Karisky. Yeah. Who cares? I had no question. But he'll, immediately when this airs, I'll get a text.

It'll be like, oh, you said my name wrong. Yeah, yeah. He texted me like yesterday. Like, when are you going to come on my podcast? I was like, fifth of never, dude. I don't know. You know what, I do, I have to respect. They all have a job to do.

Right. They do. And I think that the biggest thing that I'll say about our media is that when I did that polar plunge for Special Olympics in February or March, whatever it was down at the stadium, jumped in this big-ass tub of ice water. Do you backflip? I did. That was impressive. And so it caught on and I was like, somebody was joking on Twitter. And I was like, yeah, I have Kerrerski come down there and I'll drown him in the water, see how long you can hold his breath.

And then next thing I know, we got like 10 or 12 people from the media all joined up and raised money to help they all jump with me or after me with the kind of they raised money for Special Olympics. So we do have great. These guys are on fire. Dude, that's Zach in the back, dude. He handles this stuff. I love how you got exactly what you wear to practice too. That's a squad meeting. That's exactly what you wear every single day.

No question. You got your vest. Look at the boy. Two inches away from just literally being a coma for the rest of your life. hitting the head harder. That was the second. So I jumped with the two Olympians, and my legs are, like, frozen. And then they're, like, backflip.

And I'm like, I can't feel my legs. I just are jumped in and I climbed out. They have, like, the paramedic. You see the dude, the paramedic, that's a paramedic in case somebody, like, goes into shock. In the red, that's already in the water? Yeah. There's Zach right on the left. Zach, who?

Go back. Go back. Look at you're kind of feeling yourself there with that back. Go back. Pause it. There's Zach right there on the left. Oh. The little kid.

A little Zach back there. Great job, Coach of Able. Oh, my God. So how did this idea germinate? Last year when we were in the cafeteria. It was literally, I think the first conversation was we should start a podcast. And the next conversation was, you know, it would be cool as like a hunger game thing with the team. Yeah, that's right.

Literally, like, it was like, Taylor was talking about doing. We didn't do that this year. Yeah, we didn't do it. Hey, hey, whoops. We didn't do that this year. Hey, yeah, I know you should have. That was actually, that was a fun little gig. It kind of, it kind of, oops.

Taylor was telling you about the Lion King deal. Yeah. And you're like shutting it down. And then that's when we're like, yeah, we need to start our own podcasts and do a own thing. I have a couple ideas that I want to run by you. Okay, yeah. We'll get back. We'll get back.

25th we'll run it by it. I have a question about a different thing that you might be interested in. Preds, Nashville Titans at the Sound Stadium, Slopage Softball game. Beautiful. Talking about kegs. I love how that's the first thing you say kegs. Well, yeah, we'll have kegs in the side. It's like a fun thing.

Sure. Bags. I'm all for it. You'll be into that. You join that? Great idea. All right. I'm running that by books.

We're getting that going. I think it'd be great. I'll play for the Titans. What's that? I'll play for the Titans. You can up. That's what he said. Yeah, you can definitely hump.

That'd be awesome. You could be the slow pitch shop a guy. Yeah, he goes, he goes, we'll let you. Oh, my God. I said the same thing. Taylor said. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty awesome for you.

No, but we would do, we would like, you know, you know how it is when you're in the sauna with everybody and just kind of all the locker room stuff that goes on. And then guys were like, you should do a podcast. Oh, other guys said that? Yeah. Yeah. You haven't listened to one, though, so. Yeah, you haven't listened to one. And you haven't, you know, you don't really come in the locker room.

Nope. That's for the players. Yeah, you sit in the cafeteria. You know all the conversations are going on the cafeteria. Did you see the new cafeteria? It's almost finished. It looks amazing. Is it awesome?

It looks awesome. What's to deal with the food that's going to be in, though? because it can look great. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about later. 25th? Yeah. Yeah.

20th. Yeah. There's some people here we don't want to know about what's going on there. I'll be, hey, I'll be texting. Hey, can I get a pass for the practice? Would you let Will come with the boys and do a podcast? Yeah, you can put them on the family. You can put them on the family list.

You can do that. Son of a little. Oh, dude. Will, defend yourself, dude. What comeback is there to have? Have you seen Monty Python on the Holy Grail? No. Okay.

That's the, worst thing you've done so far. But there's a scene where the guy gets his limbs cut off and he's still trying to fight. That's you right now. Have you seen it? Everybody's seen that movie. Have you seen Animal House? Monty's with a Y, right? There you go. Yeah. Look at dude, Zach is so on top of it.

They have like these guys, these guys are riding horses, but they're just like clicking like coconuts together. It's like a naked gun. Yeah, it's, well, you've probably not seen a naked gun either, huh? It's like airplane. God. You've not seen it. podcast with this guy? I know. Well, it's a

word, I'm like, I'm in a transition right now. I'm actually, yeah. I'm firing everybody. Is that you've seen Monty Python in the Holy Grail or naked gun or airplane. That's why this podcast is going to be good because I haven't seen that shit. You need to go off the goddamn bus. See the guy behind him? So this guy's pretending to ride a horse and the guy behind him is like So that sounds great guys. It's a great movie actually. It's a great movie

actually. It's ridiculous. Robin Hood Men and Tights. Have you seen that? No. Holy shit. Will. We need, we didn't cover. this at our breakfast last year that recruiting meeting we had? I was basically recruiting you remember that breakfast? That was just a little recruit. What hotel was that? Was that a Renaissance? Renaissance? Are it super eight?

We only used that one for the later for a later for a year. Yeah, yeah. Well, we put you in the Super 8. Yeah. It wasn't in the Super 8. You know what I did on a Broadway? No, we're at the top. No, and you're not at the talk. Very, very well, we had a nice little breakfast. He took me around town. Really? He was talking to me about what goes on on Broadway. See, I don't know if I

can handle like a drive with you. Why? Dude, it was honestly, he tricked me. He fooled me from the get-go. Really? So you're like a good recruiter. Yeah, I was like... Anything other than what I was. I was like...

You know what the problem is? You're really aggressive. We're very... You and I are very similar. I could see that. But the thing is, you're my boss. I love it. Am I your favorite player you've ever coached?

Besides me? Probably. Probably, up around the middle area, probably not. For Will. That was Will, but now we're talking about me. No. You miss every time he break the hospital. and I'm like, get your ass to quit walking the line of the line.

Hey, but hey, let me get some. Where the dogs go to the pound, my baby? Dude, I fought in. I hear all about it. He comes by, hey, Will, man, you should have saw me today. You've been able to have me. He'd, but, hey, I have me break down the huddle. That's not true.

That's not true. Hey, I've been all my leader's stuff lately, my puppy. Hey, that's not true. Actually, it is true. I would say that. Leadership has grown this year. It has been more than ever. evident.

Love that. Hey. It's been a personal choice. It's been more than evident. I know what I was last year, and it was me, and I'm fixing it. It was like transitional. It wasn't transitional. It was me thinking I was better than I actually was.

We talk all the time. And it was funny because he's like, he walked by my office, and I'm like, Taylor. And he's like, I'm like, it's not every time you come in here, it's not like I'm not going to say something. Sometimes, though. bad but then i try to say hey this is when this is what we're doing good and uh it's been more than evident as far as just being positive leader getting guys going what do you think you're yeah i see you ball i see you ball got you up out of there nerd hey uh you said no he just got

you got you oh my god dude but i'm telling you we've actually had that conversation i was like because he was he was he was i told will when we met not enjoying this not enjoying this anymore boys All my close friends in the team that I get really tight with, either get cut or injured. Mettemberger, Campanaro, you? Yeah, I'm not really sure what to say. I don't know what to say either. So you're going from year one to two as a head coach, that's why I wanted transition to before you guys wanted to just take a little minute.

What do you think your biggest changes are as a head coach from year one to two? I'm trying to just be more consistent, and I don't know if I am. I'm trying to be more consistent in hopes that it carries over to the players and to the meetings and to the field. I make one week we're here. We're beating the Super Bowl champions. We're beating teams that make the playoffs that are winning playoff games. And then, you know, the next week or a few weeks later, we're not at our best. And so I got to figure out how we get and stay at this level, week in and week out.

So I think that it starts with consistency. I think that, you know, I think we pulled back. try to change the schedule a little bit in OTAs. I don't think we needed to run as many team reps as we ran last year because we're putting in two new systems and I felt like it was important that we got a lot of work at that and based on what I saw, I thought we had a productive spring and a healthy spring which is most important. So we change the schedule a little bit and so we'll try to do that in training camp as well. I think I know where some of the road bumps are, where some of the speed bumps are and I can try to avoid them. Not that, you know, distractions are going to happen

It's just how we handle them. But I think some of these things that come up, I was like, oh, yeah, I remember that happened last year. Like, whatever. Like, we'll just do this instead of what we did last year. Yeah. And when you say, try to be more consistent, you hope. Like, where would you find kind of those?

Just continue the message, you know, how do I allow guys to make mistakes? I think that's critical. Continuing to think about that is how do I let guys, how do our coaches, how do I let guys make mistakes? as opposed to just immediately correcting them. It's like, hey, what happened? What did you see?

And a lot of that is time sensitive. You don't have a whole lot of time, but if you can allow guys to make mistakes and ask them, hey, if they don't know, then you've got to fix it and you've got to teach them. But if they know, they're like exactly like, I got the second widest and I got buried down on the guard or got buried down on the tackle and the end spiked inside. Well, then he knows it.

He just has to fix it and go on. We don't have to sit there and teach our protection over again. I actually have a question that I care about. I know that it's half an interruption. So when you say questions, do your fans? So we put out something that, hey, we're having you on. Oh, nice. So people are going to tweet us and ask questions.

You'll probably see on Twitter when you open it up next. Yeah. You can retweet something if you want. Okay. Follow us with the boys. When you guys go through cuts and after that fourth preseason game, what, like, is it just you and John that says out? Or is it the whole coaching staff?

And, like, are you guys down in those last three, four, Will Compton's? Like, what do you guys do you guys say, hey, like, God. That is a great question. So there's always input from John's staff, who is the scouting department and the coaching staff, and I try to do my best to represent them. And we have meetings. And John and I listen to what the coaches say as far as it relates to personnel.

But at the end of the day, it's John and I that have conversations, and we are going to make the decisions. And I'm lucky to be included on that. He's got the final say, but I would say that we, you know, find a way to come to an agreement. So if you have, like, two guys on the fringe, let's say, like, me and Jack Conklin, we're on the French. Like, we're playing the same, blah, blah, blah. Like, it's really similar. And you're like, oh, we got to get rid of one of these guys.

Would you have, like, someone like Keith come in and be, like, kind of like that breaker vote? Like, you and John are split. And Keith's like, well, this guy's attitude or this guy's work ethic, those types of things. Well, I think that he would, I don't think we would necessarily, um, have someone else, whether it be the position coach or a scout, break any tie. But what we would try to do is look for special teams value, versatility, can this guy play another position?

How is this guy in a locker room? I'm just trying to look at examples that you could use to differentiate two players that are very similar. And I'm sure that money would even play a part in it. You know, when you got down to, you know, the six, fifth or six tiebreaker as far as with the player or is i mean this got to be the we're talking about the 53rd guy on the roster because if we're having this a harder conversation for these two guys maybe these two guys are better than someone else and so yeah you know yeah you're saying like

if these guys are so similar they're probably better than someone else and you got to keep the best the right 53 and so you have to manufacture and maneuver things around i got you does this guy have practice squad eligibility does this guy not you know i think there's a lot that goes into it. I had one more, but I forget already. When you're looking at these stats, which category, like which, it's probably Teddy, but which stat stands out like the,

not in total, like one play? Which stat are you looking at here? That was the most member of play. My rookie year. Oh, really? Your rookie year? Playoff game against the Patriots. Strip sack, Drew Bledsoe,

in a two-minute drill at the end of the game. We won seven-three. to go to the HACC. Left tackle or right tackle. Bruce Armstrong, left tackle. That's impressive. That is solid. So stats here for anybody that's listening.

I can't see this paper. Tackle 74. Do we really think that that's 74? Do we think that's that's 7,463? See how that line like cuts it off? I think it's a 74. Yeah, see that. That's definitely, that's, there's a little line there.

When they count quarterback sacks to the tackle and I had 57 of those. How'd you fit? Yeah. Well, okay, anyway, anyway, stats, 57, interceptions, he had 11. Forced fumbles, oops, oops, oops. He's talking, oops, not a squad meeting. Force fumbles. Roshan, write this down.

Force fumbles 19, receptions, 10, touchdowns, 10. Now, one thing I do want to talk about when you're talking about consistency, I've seen how you've shown consistency in our meeting rooms. Because when we go to squad meetings, I feel like I get a question every single time we had a squad meeting. Yeah. I don't know what did, I'm three rows back in them. right in the middle it's the middle you do it's the middle is but is it though because you got

jon i was gonna say is my dog jion still get him no jon gets a bar i love that it's uh it's it's it's k b it's k b to be like am i right k b and then it's it's rshawn for questions me for is a harold i'll tell you what you do do though is you get ben jones two to three times a year with the uh staring at staring at flies man got him in the and you're like hey ben what yeah what about this he's like Uh, uh, because he assumes that he's like, yeah, super smart center guy. Like, he assumes like, I'm not going to ask him. Yeah.

And he just, uh, just in mouth, mouth open, swallowing bugs, dude. Dude, you get tight, man, when, when brave calls on you. I'll sit there and know. I'll tell you what we did do is from my first year to now, probably the most stress I am during the season is walking to squad meetings. Love it. Because I'm like, I'm like, you know, you got it on edge. Because the thing, because you know him, it's like, hey, Taylor, we dot, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, question. now that's okay we'll find a different left tackle if you can't answer that one like let's let's go uh conklin

you know what you know what you're saying like john make sure we write that down hey john make sure we write that down find me a guy like this guy not that guy who can't answer questions it's solid going into squabbing it wouldn't be that because i'd be like last so i always like would see him hold his own coffee and plus you were taking notes and you want to be a coach and you will be a coach and you were i appreciate that yeah so dyes what that was part of our breakfast we had that on our breakfast That was part of breakfast. You do want to be a coach someday? Oh, my God.

Possibly. Possibly. Would you, like, what's the end game for you? Like, this, like. Oh, buddy. I got to find a way to try to start enjoying life. That's got to be tough of so much stress. Just it's hard to turn off, man.

Like, these next couple weeks. Like, yeah, I know we're going to go on vacation and watch baseball, but it's just, you know, having a switch to be like with the family and Carter's friends. And it's not just like. and not just sitting in a lot like a chair just thinking like. Just grinding through. It's easy. You've been doing the whole life.

It's easy. You go look at that and say, okay, I can do this all day. I mean, I enjoy it. I enjoy it. But there's still time where it's like I'll be thinking about what we're going to do and how we're going to practice or what Cleveland's going to do or what Indy's going to do or Jacksonville or Houston. It's natural for you and us to be football players. Sure.

It's all we know. For me, I'll have a two-year-old daughter, and I'm like, that is harder for me to do naturally than to be, to go and play football. Yeah, I think, but, you know, I've seen you with her, and you know, you love your girls, and that's the most important thing in your life. It has to be. And I think that, and I hope that the team and that football is a very close second. I try to do the same way. And so hopefully, you have to find something. Like, guys, you're going to play, and you're not going to need to work, but you're going to need to work.

financially you're not going to have to work, but you're going to need to work for some sanity and give you a reason to get up every morning and go do something that you love and that you can compete at or you know, that you don't have to just sit there and your kids are going to be in school and they're going to, what are you going to do? You know, so this was something that got me up and, you know, kept me motivated and kept me, you know, trying to compete, whether it being recruiting or game planning or whatever it is. If you are looking for ways to, you know, enjoy life a little bit more, You're doing a great job with that mustache.

Thank you. What, um... Getting mixed reviews, but I think it's grown. Don't say, Jen. I think it's growing on her. Yeah. Probably like I did in college where she was scared of death of me for, for two months, and then she finally came around. See, I just proposed a tail in five weeks.

That way, she didn't have a chance to figure out who you really is going on. This guy's a psychopath. This guy's nuts. I love it, though. Well, made you do it, though. Just a change up. Is it, though? Or did we, like, when we met I had a mustache, and you didn't, and now you have a mustache.

Does that, like... I don't remember that meeting when I thought about the mustache, but it was the season was over. I'd had the beard since God knows how long. And wanted to change it up. Looks good. I like it. You had the tickler or what? Anything right there?

A little soul? Yeah, a little something, though. Just trying to, I don't know. That's a total preference point. Is it? That's like a little sole patch? A little bit. Just added it.

You know, I just, it's too bare, whatever. shade down so we'll see i don't know you guys got the ink you got you got you got you got ink no no ink no you got anything none would you ever get a tattoo nope way past that if we win a super ball and i'm playing for you still we get my name tattooed in your body your name no what would you do um i would do something if you wanted to make a bed matt neely yeah he's shaking his head Matt Neely said he would cut off his dick For a Super Bowl For a one of Super Bowl

And I said And I have no problem saying No I wouldn't do that Would you cut your dick off for a Super Bowl? Been married 20 years Yeah probably You've got three As a player

I guess he'll be married for 20 years one day Would you If you came home If you came home holding a bag of ice And Jen was like How honey, would you do? She'd be like, I thought you already got fixed. I made the ultimate sacrifice.

I had to cut my dick off, honey. We're going to win a sewer roll. She'd be like, eh, all right. Or would she be upset? She'd probably be on board. She would be like, do you want me to do it? Do you want to do it now? Do you want to do it now?

I made the ultimate sacrifice. She's like warming up a knife in the fire, like getting ready to go. All right. This one is for Vrabel. It says, what characteristics in Marcus Mario do you also see in Tom Brady? Competitiveness. I think the one thing we talked about with Marcus in the offseason was as he goes into this second year in this scheme, is to have a much better presence.

And I think that as you're learning the offense for the first time like he has in the previous four years, you know, it's hard to have complete command of the offense. And I think that he showed that in the spring as an understanding and being able to tell guys, hey, this is what you have. If guys look at him with that look, like I'm not. not really sure what I have. He's telling him, you know, he's getting the alignments right. He's able to handle the pressures, the protections. And so I think that there was a much better presence this year going through the spring. So did you guys notice like the first couple weeks like

they were like making articles up after people came on here and people were like quoting everybody. Remember I had that conversation about the podcast? How we can sit here and talk for an hour or however long I have to sit here and talk. Then they write an article about it. And they use everything that I have said and will say as quotes, like they ask me a question. Right. And they've never, you know, will never have asked me those questions, but they're going to write an article

about it because of being here. And I do think that that's lazy reporting. I think that's lazy. You know, this is something different, but I guarantee you this week when I'm gone, there'll be articles quotations wrapped around it.

Yep. So you just say me, and it's done. It's easy that way. Taylor. Yep. Yeah, there you. Will? I don't know. I was trying to think. Yeah, that is a bummer, though, that you can't just say what you want.

You can't just, like, go about your business. And I said to that, and I tried to shut it down. You know, I mean, I stood up in front of the team. I was like, this is stupid. You guys shouldn't be doing podcasts. You know what? He's very supportive. There's no way he told him to that.

I said, listen, man, you go have a blast. But I understand what they're going to wrap an hour conversation. They're going to wrap quotation marks around it. Yeah. Yeah, I heard. And they're going to try to fit whatever narrative they want to fit. I could tell you. I was like,

yo, Ray will suffer the boys. No question. You could, I could tell while you were doing that meeting, you were trying to put it around like, how do I not say this is Taylor's podcast with Will? You know,

you're like, hey, listen, there's things up and then you and I locked eyes. You're like, Taylor and Will started a podcast. Yeah, but I think that it's, it's something,

you guys have to be able to do stuff outside of football. Like, you have to have things that you guys enjoy doing, and having a good time. I like the fact that you had teammates on. I like the fact that Chad Arthur on it. I mean, and hopefully that guys will, you know, come on. I mean, I don't know what the plans are during the season.

If you, you got any sponsors? Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Oh, my God. Not yet. You knew daddy was coming on tonight, boys. Dude, I'll tell you what.

I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad. Say what you want about Will. Say what about the bus? Oops, oops, oops. I was in the middle of hoops. I was sitting there and I was...

Go ahead. Oh, it was my turn? You can go now. Thank you. Say what you want about Will and who he is as a person and as a player. But don't take the dad thing from me. I love how you get to come on and humble this man. Call himself Dad, like his real dad's sitting in the couch right now.

First off. After he signed that contract and I wanted to try to take that phone he was on and I try to shove it right up his ass. when he's run out to practice and I was like daddy I'm daddy just so you know yeah I'm what a great and Taylor would look at me back he is my dad you I remember you dude don't admit that he is though I'm like okay let's go who said that you oh pillow talk you guys are pillow talking you want to get their pillow talking I'll tell you what I remember when I when I signed my contract and I was sitting there and I was just getting ready as business business as usual getting my cleats on

getting ready to go and you came over to me and you whispered and you said you're my favorite player of all time. No, I said. You better, you better never miss a block. And we're not chipping. Oops, oops, oops, oops. He's hooking because we're after I'm.

He said, he said, hey, don't tell any of the guys this, but you're my favorite player of all time. And I, I just, your presence, being around you, I love it. And I'm so happy you sign this contract. And God willing, I'm going to get you a third if I can. And I said, and I said, and I said,

and I said, hey, Braves, I got to get out to practice, dude. I got work to do. And you said, can you just stay a little bit longer? I said you better block your guy every single play. And you know what we pay you? You better block them every single play through the whistle. And you know what the worst part is?

We practiced Tampa and JPP, like beat me in a play. And you said for the team, you're like, we're paying this guy how much? Dude, that was. And I was sitting there like, yo, dude, I'm exposed right now. Like, is it worth it? I was like, is it worth it? And then I was like, yeah, it's definitely. Definitely worth it.

I was brought up in a system where every player, including the best players, were held the most accountable. Yeah, I get it. That's how I was brought up. I don't know if it's right or wrong, but that's all I know. I'd rather you say you get on me about stuff like that, then I give up a sack and you'd be like, well, he's doing the best he can. Or there's some coaches I've had where you'll mess up or a player mess up and they'll sit

there and they'll bitch out the backup. Like it wasn't the backup's fault Like he was the it was the starter It was the guy that we're paying To do his job Don't don't yell at the backup Like that's the why he's the backup That's why he's the backup

Pro football fellas Come on now Figure it out boys Guys come in close break this huddle down closer It's pro football Have you like like the other guys No he goes Dude you're same thing

Get in here close like it's pro football I don't want to yell I never said that when I say Bring it in here closer I don't say it. Dude, you're like, that was like one of my favorite little bits. You've literally, you've literally done that. You like the other guys. Have you seen the other guys?

When the guys are, all right, guys, bring it in it. All right, stop. A couple steps back. Slow it. And then bring it a little farther. That's you. But you got to run it, man. You got to do your thing.

At least you guys are paying attention. Yeah. And you make fun of it. That's what you say when I did the skin. So if you have to play the sked at least. I don't have the footage. You don't have it? I never recorded it.

The other guys did it send it. Yeah. Yeah, AP's got it. We got it. APs are a video guy if you're wondering. It'd be like a party. It'd be like a parting gift. We'll send it to you.

In a fruit basket. On July 25th. Hey, remember when you let our team in special teams tackles? And I deactivated you for a game. With six and a half. Would you have seven? No, I was in double digits. Brett punts it out of bounds.

I could cover Brett's kicks. Brett can boom that ball. And it's out of bounds. It's like 50 yards out of bounds. Just closest guy to the guy that goes out of bounds. That's it. I got them. I got them.

Does that count? No, it doesn't. No, it does. Oh, yeah, it counts. Put me on special teams. Dude, you would never cover a punt. I'm faster than you. No, you're not.

Braves, help me up. Say your answer. Guess what? How's the hammy? Hammy's good. Hey, I'm in my prime brother. I'm ready to go. I know you said, ever like, okay,

Com's a little swole sound. The boy's staying in shape. It's because the shirt's so tight. I had to wear a shmedium. I do that's the one thing about punting I sit in and I try to tell these guys I said you it's so hard to be an they're an offensive lineman

and then they have to turn into a lineback or a safety like the skill set so I'm like why don't we have our offensive line coach like teach the protection part of it like the kick slide and everything else because that's that is true that is funny that is true that you didn't answer yeah yeah yeah who thinks faster

mayor well um like if you like how far I love the fact that you're thinking about it too Yeah, it's really bothering me. I can't wait to get on the field tomorrow, and we have cameras. I would say that if it's over 50 yards, I would say Lawan. Okay. Well, guess what?

I'll have it. What if it's 30 yards? I think we'll get you. Really? That's interesting. I thought it'd be the opposite. I think you'd get them in the longer. You think my top end is higher than his?

Short stuby legs. You get them a little. They, hey, they got a little. Monty Parthage. A little Barney-Rubble legs. These little, hey, these try-hard legs. They spin really fast as he stays in the same spot. That's you.

I can't tell you how many times we've shown the play against the Eagles, though. Which one? The undercut? Yeah. The slice? The slice. I should have picked that off. But I meant we showed it to him.

It's a teach tape. It's a teach tape banjo. Yeah, my favorite part about that play was Coach Peas's reaction in the locker match of the game. Him just, I just love Coach Peas. I think he's a stud. Talk about him for a second. Did you see the punt that he did?

Yeah, I was just going to bring that up. Dude, I did. I grabbed it off Twitter. I saw that the Titans tweeted in. I sent it to him. I'm like, yo, look at you out there moving around, dude. It looked like he caught a thousand pun. I mean, it was just.

He changed direction, too. Fingertips, boom, spike. I wish we had a film of Arthur Smith. I wish we put that out there. The back pedal. No, they had a video about it. The number one rule of catching a punt, never step forward first. Because you can always run faster.

It's like being an outfielder. Yes. And then you can. Center field, dude, everybody plays it at one point in their life. Figit out. Yeah. So the Dean is, and it was just awesome. And the reason I let off with that is the reaction from the players.

I mean, I thought they picked them up and I thought they were going to drop him and break his hip. Yeah, yeah. I thought something was going to happen to him. I mean, they hit him up in the air. I mean, but the excitement that the players genuinely had for Dean, they love them, they care about them. I know that they play hard. I obviously you guys played hard for him. They will play hard for him.

He's a great teacher. And, you know, it's not easy. You know, I got a lot of ideas, and there's a lot of things that I want to try to do. And he wants to combine with what he's done. And so that's always a good conversation that we have and a great dynamic. And, you know, this job would be difficult. You know, if Dean wasn't part of this, he was one of the first guys I called. And he was my coordinator in New England.

and obviously we had a respect for him and the guys in Baltimore. I mean, he's coached numerous Hall of Fame players. And again, last year, Ray Lewis went in and he sheepishly came and asked me, could he go to the induction ceremony? And I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, we'll get you a flight, we'll get you back, get you wherever you need to get to. And it was like during camp. And again, Ed Reed's going in this year.

And Ed Reed invited him. And he came back and he's like, you know, can. And I'm like, yes, of course you can. Like any of our coaches, coach Hall of Famers, and they ask him to come, you can have the day off during training camp to go be with a player that you coach that's going to the Hall of Fame. Yeah, because he was going to retire after his Baltimore. He was.

And you got the old boy to come back. Yep, it's recruiting. Was it really hard getting him to come back? Well, I mean, I think that he had set his mind up and that him and Mel, they have a vacation home or a retirement home that they enjoy spending time at. And I think that he was going to do a lot of that and go spend time with his wife. and then, you know, after, you know, I probably was a weak conversation or dialogue that we had. And then, you know, he made the commitment to join us.

And I'm glad that he is. Braves. Hang on one question. It's a fun one. Would you rather? Yes. So would you rather question? All right.

Answer this question or leave? Leave. Okay. Would you rather? Okay, we got to go back a little bit because picture yourself. rookie year you'd met jinn then yeah okay your mom and jinn bad shape okay you follow me a little bit i'm there you either have would you rather have sex with jen with your mom's subconscious or your mom with jen's body but your mom's brain your mom's one experiencing it say oh michael

Michael don't Michael don't grab me like that So I don't even I mean that I guess is a decent question I'm not really sure I'm going to end up having sex with my wife The body Hey you're not you're not wrong I chose

I choose the girlfriend too Yeah mom's got to go ahead We went home with a couple You know friends and their girlfriends To back home to my parents' house And we had gone out And so we were arguing Jen and I were arguing

And it was one of those like two more two in the morning arguments. Yeah. And she was like sitting on my lap, like crying and like she's like, why? And I was like, we're fine. And so my dad like walks out. And then he's like, he makes a U-turn. And he like goes back and she's like, oh my God. I think your dad thinks we're having sex.

And I'm like, no, I don't think so. The next morning he's like. And I was like, no, we weren't. It was like, no way. Fully closed. It was just like how it looked. At 2 in the morning. And she was petrified.

That's hilarious. That's awesome. In the family room. Like an ottoman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's where I thought you this was going. Like, you know, I was going to go to like in your parents' house or something like that. Yeah, yeah.

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