Bussin' With The Boys - Mike Vrabel On Leaving Titans, Drake Maye's Rookie Journey + Mack Hollins Goes Barefoot | Bussin'

Episode Date: August 5, 2025

In the intro, Will Compton and Taylor Lewan talk about the fast-approaching NFL season, top league headlines, and entering full-blown dad mode. They also wrap up their summer internship program, bringing fan-favorite Big Cheese on for one last ride before school starts. The episode kicks off with a must-hear Mike Vrabel interview. The new Patriots head coach opens up about his firing from the Tennessee Titans, his brief stop in Cleveland, and what it’s like rebuilding the Patriots' culture. He even shares stories about Jameis Winston’s locker room energy and his goals for New England in 2025. Next, the guys sit down with rookie QB Drake Maye, the Patriots’ 2024 first-round pick, to talk about his NFL Draft experience, becoming the starter midseason, and how Coach Vrabel keeps him on his toes. Then, linebacker Robert Spillane joins the show to share his unbelievable journey from NFL open tryout to landing a $33 million contract. Spillane reflects on his grind, early years with the Titans, and passion for football. To wrap the Patriots stop, Mack Hollins (aka the Barefoot King) hops on to talk about why he never wears shoes, how a random meeting with Australians shifted his mindset, and how close he came to retiring from the game. This episode is packed with exclusive NFL interviews, underdog stories, and real-life inspiration — from Vrabel’s coaching philosophy to Drake Maye’s rookie development and Mack Hollins’ unique lifestyle. Don’t miss it. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro2:52 It's Coming, Football Is Almost Here16:04 Bussin Live Show18:20 Spooktober Is Right Around The Corner26:41 Terry McLaurin & Micah Parson's Want OUT39:43 Training Camp Tour Is On49:36 First Internship Program Is Over1:03:41 MIKE VRABEL INTERVIEW STARTS1:03:43 Coach Is Late1:04:26 Getting Fired From The Titans 1:06:09 Coaching Jameis Winston 1:08:44 When Did New England Become A Possibility?1:12:41 A New Coach Vrabel? 1:16:49 Implementing His Culture Again1:18:22 Excited To Meet Cardi B?1:19:07 Which Vrabel Are The Patriots Getting?1:23:17 Patriots Problems Last Year1:28:18 The Boy's Don't Like His Drills1:32:22 The AJ Brown Trade1:33:20 Vrabel Got Bodied By His Rookie1:36:01 Bud Light: What Would You Do Anything For? 1:38:20 DRAKE MAYE INTERVIEW STARTS1:38:44 Team Keys When Talking To Media1:39:16 Josh Allen Comparisons1:39:54 Draft Day And Time With Vrabel1:44:29 What Does Vrabel Get On Him For?1:51:25 Taking Over As Starter1:53:33 His Weekly Routine1:56:51 Welcome To The NFL Moment1:57:59 ROBERT SPILLANE INTERVIEW STARTS1:58:14 His Journey In The NFL2:03:10 Stonewalling Derrick Henry2:05:03 Starting For The Steelers2:06:24 Signing With The Raiders2:08:17 Coming To The Patriots2:11:46 TJ Watt vs Maxx Crosby2:14:07 MACK HOLLINS INTERVIEW STARTS2:14:08 His Outfit Isn't For Show2:15:13 The Culture In New England2:16:34 His Time In Buffalo2:17:03 The Barefoot King 2:20:41 Likes/Dislikes About VrabelSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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a lot of the a lot of the hardos want to argue that it's already here will it's already happened chargers lions I understand that enthusiasm

I do because I think this is a I think this is a great time to start prepping your significant others your wives for what is to come right

right right you get to where it's preseason everybody's excited I mean I flip back and forth on the preseason game, the Hall of Fame game, but it's not like I'm sitting there watching it. You see it, you see the excitement, you scroll the apps a little bit,

see everybody else's excitement, because we've worked really hard to get here. But this is the opportunity where you start the warm up before the workout. The massage. It was like, and intercept that real quick. You tune on the game. We've been in the situation.

We've been in a preseason game, and you know those guys don't want to be there. If you see the- Yes and no. You see, yes, yes, yes. The cats who are, like, you know. Yeah, first rounders. You don't want to be there.

The cats that are not, are not walking for a job to have their job. They're sitting there going, these motherfuckers got us in the Hall of Fame game. We got to do an extra one of these things. And also there's a bunch of hungry Roberts, Blanfton's rip around there going, I'm going to absolutely ruin someone's fucking life this afternoon.

And that's going to get me my dreams to come true. Be somebody's nightmare. In Ohio. It's like, Charles, we were upstairs changing Scotty. We were up there jumping off the furniture. And I was like,

Hall of Fame game tonight. Football's back. There's a game night. It's July. I look at my watching. It is July. And it's just you start planting the seed. You're like, oh, football's on the night.

We've got to have it on. It wasn't really on. But you start the domino effect and start getting them warmed up to what this schedule is going to be like. Yeah. Preseason games are sporadic. My two kids walked into the main cave the other day and I'm sitting there. And they go, Daddy, what are you watching? I was like, I'm just watching a little something.

They go, oh, good. We were hoping it wasn't football. And I said, it's good. you mentioned that because we're not too far away kids and we'll be watching and like no dad please don't they caught themselves a punishment got them back in line now we're getting ready for football season put your nose in the corner right now hall of fame game thank you for let me punish my children so i can get ready for the football season yeah i'm excited let me ask you this tell me would you potentially be excited to be the hall of fame game the first game being in camp

Great question. Never had the op. I don't hate it. Now, I think both teams, they probably had to report early for camp. I think so. I think that's usually, that would suck,

but if you have a game... But usually the report early happens with a new coach, and either one of those teams have new coaches. We're talking with the lines and the charges for those of you who did not... who live under Iraq and don't know football's bad. Yeah, yeah,

because I'm sitting here thinking it could be nice if you have a preseason game that early out of the game because camp gets a little cut a little bit shorter. Yeah. Not like shorter, but you know what I'm saying. Yeah.

The scheduling around it. Yeah. The types of practices. The day you have to travel. Yeah. You have to get out there. And a lot of guys, the guys who are kind of solidified that they're going to have their position for that year. This is an, that's like an off day.

That's like a, okay. Hey, we want you to play 10 snaps this game. You stressed out. You warm up, but you're morally joking around. You're thinking, I just got to, I got to operate for 10 snaps show that I'm, you know, putting the work in, blah, blah, kind of get my, you know, get a little WD40 in these joints of mine and get moving. But then it cedes. It's jokes, it's camaraderie after that.

That's the vibe. That's what you want. How thankful are you that you were not out in this heat at training camp? Can I be honest? Be honest. I miss it. Right now. And these last like four or five days seeing how hot it was and being like, yeah, waking up in the morning

and not being feeling obligated to be somewhere immediately at 6 a.m. is a nice bonus. But there is not a better feeling than getting done with a two and a half hour practice. A couple guys are cramping in the corner. You're drenched in sweat. You're taking off your stuff. You take your socks and you squeegee them and sweat just drains off there. Smell your cleats a little bit.

Yeah, you get a little whiff because you like your own scent and not somebody else's. Yeah. And you sit there and somebody makes the remark, boys, this is the farthest will be away from the next practice. And there's a piece of you that goes from, I have been in hell to holy shit, he's right. Then the giggles start to happen. People get on their phones. Boys in the locker room start to jell. having each other. You might stumble across a friend who just came from the Redskins and you have

a cannibola buddy and you're like, let's do the extra mile. Let's get ready for tomorrow with this sauna with this cold tub. And that to me is fucking awesome. It's the it's embracing the suck together. It's like yeah. Like I sit here now. I'm on a bus. Our air conditioning is working. That's new. But it's like and it's great. Like we have a great life. Our life is amazing. But I trade this shit in right now to get out there for a couple more snacks. I don't know if I share that same sentiment anymore. I'd trade the shit out of immediate. I miss everything you just said,

but I miss it with my younger body. Yeah. Like knowing where I'm at now, it's like I touch that heat outside, get sticky right away. Like there's a little bit of softness that came with this comfort. No doubt.

To where it's like, I would not trade what's going on right now to get back out there in a training camp. You know, your boy, I'll kind of an expert in finesse in training camp. Yeah. You're an expert for messing a lot of things. I'll say this, dude.

When you go to camp and you wake up in the morning, like you wake up, the alarm goes off and there's your anxiety immediately. You go into the meetings. You get like pre-taped if you do tape. You put your braces on. If they're making you wear braces, you got the pants on. You got your bottoms fully done. You got your shoulder pads, the jersey on.

You go in the meeting. Coach goes over, hey, this is what's going to happen today. We're going to do a 9-1-7 period. We got one-on-ones. And this time, we're going to hit individual. And individual day. we're going to do those things. At this point,

your heart rate is truly skyrocketing. Because you're also like, I got to get my pre-practice routine. I got to get this body. And a lot of coaches like to hit them fucking jaw sets. You're like, I need that extra five. Especially when you're in years seven and above.

You're like, I need that extra five. Let me loosen and lather a little bit before I get out there. But a lot of your mind goes to, for me it was first team period. Okay, I got to operate there. And then those one-on-ones.

Or it's just you and another guy in front of you. And you know, it's tailored towards the defense. they're pinning their ears back. The cadence doesn't really anything. And you're like, if I can succeed in this category and this category today, everything else can go fuck off. That's where the anxiety hits.

Now go back to what we're saying before of like after practice. If you're able to check those couple of boxes where you're like, I got better today because I focused on these things and I saw myself improve. Winning and losing the reps or whatever. But like my hands were better, my set was better. My feet were better. I got out of my stance a little bit faster. Whatever you were trying to work on, you hit those.

man, that's like a rest easy moment. And you're like, okay, tomorrow we're going to watch this film. In your mind, you've already watched film 50 times your head, every bad snap you've had. And you're like, I'm going to work on these three things tomorrow. And then you go to a meeting room. They tell you the other things you already know. And you're like, tomorrow I'm going to knock that shit out of the park. And then you go to bed.

And buddy, you don't sleep better than after a hard day of camp. Yeah. And knowing that you get to go into, you know, your position meetings and, what am I trying to say right now? Defense offense, defense offense. Team, not team meeting. Yeah, offensive defensive meetings. And there's just like a hard time.

He said defense offense. All he had to do was flip those two words for him. Got the brain was going on there. And you get to kind of sit easy knowing like, oh, play's about to come up. You know, get a little compliment. Right, right, right. Like this one was good versus the anxiety of like, fuck, I fuck this one. Yeah, vice versa.

Yeah, that's the opposite. Because when you do have a really bad play, let's say I can take a- Coach is going to, how is coach going to coach this? How is he going to go off on me? Because if you have a bad play early, my brain would go to, you got to finish extra hard today. So when coach reams your ass, there's a couple clips where maybe we have a big explosive play

that you also see 77 run down the field quite a bit. And you can look at that and be like, that's the effort we need. That's all you need to get back on track. Football players are words of affirmation guys. You hate to admit it. But when they walk into that team eating room, you're looking for the words of affirmation.

You need them. You're looking for a pat on the ass. You're looking for a good job. and you're dreading the fact that you might get up what the fuck are we doing here the age old we're paying you how much to do this that's always the gut-wrenching situation

yeah yeah yeah when you yeah I'm going back to the time where you got spun around by JPP yep which you loved yeah I mimic that for Vrabel at the rookie show that was tough and also I will say this by JPP hell of a move hell of a move with eight fingers I will say like he was

Fun Taylor round in practice. Buddy, he hit me with an inside move, and I was like, oh, he's going inside. And I went hard inside. And then he went back outside. And I literally did a whirling dervish, turned around. And he was at the quarterback, hits the bag, sorry, hits the bag, and goes, and I did that with one hand.

I thought, fuck, he got my ass. Because I was thinking to myself, I'm going to body him. And now I'm going to say, maybe if you had two hands, it would go a lot easier for you. I had a little something in my arsenal up top. And then all of a sudden, it didn't go the way. didn't go the way I wanted. Yeah. But I will say when we played Tampa the next year, I remembered that play.

And I watched that play over and over again. He didn't get my ass in the game. So that's called learning. That's called learning. Someone who's also learned a man from Ohio was in the rap game for a long time. Something happened between him and Eminem. All of a sudden changes genres and revitalizes punk pop. And now he is the official 2025 CFB anthems.

Let's give a round of applause for MGK. Single-handedly bringing back the greatest genre of the 2000s. The greatest, I think that's not arguable, right? You heard what he's doing now? All right, Jack. Sorry, I like it, K. I don't know why. That was crazy.

I don't know why I said that. That's crazy. I know why I said that. Say it again so people know what you said. I said touching kids. You said it again? Touching kids. Oh my God, dude.

I'm, yeah, I think he's doing like justice maybe single-handedly bringing back pop punk that's a crazy statement m gk he has and Travis barker brought back that genre there were people doing that but they were the faces and the voices that brought that genre back now you got black 182 out there killing it you got five black guys doing a pop punk music and they rip shout out paradox they rip they rip yeah and they do i've seen uh them do a live show like a little clip of them and they make jokes. They reference the fact that they're black when they make jokes.

They make jokes about them being black when they too. I love it. But you're saying MGK the white man is bringing it back yeah I am. I am. JP, do you want to say anything about this? The black guys can get mad about Elvis Presley about we, you know, they do cool shit that we take the cool

shit. It's no longer cool shit so they have to make new cool shit and then we know we try to do that cool shit. White guys have been pretty steady on the pop punk. We've been pretty steady. We've been right. That's our fastball. True.

That's our fastball. And MGK started a putter, and MGK brought it back. Don't bring up Jimmy Hendricks. Just throws Jimmy Hendricks on the screen. Don't bring up Jim. Don't do that. That's rock.

So we like the song. That was going to say, Song of the season is MGK. Song of the season, MGK, college football. Can we play 10 seconds of it? Play 10 seconds of it. I don't know if we're allowed to.

You know Will hasn't heard it. We can't play it under. I saw the little theme. Yeah, I saw the little real. Touching the banner in Mason Blue. For the guys in the back who could not hear, I know Taylor's opinion on the song. Is the song good? Yeah.

With the real that it's doing, like the little hype video. It just gets you excited about college football coming back. It's very good energy. It's not like some motivating song, but it's like a good feel good. Let's get excited. Let's get excited for college game day coming back on Saturday. It's big noon kickoff. Just getting in the spirit of.

college football. What do you think it's been the best college football anthem that there's been? We're coming to your city. That's the college game day. Gonna play off, gettals and sang you a country song. That's the college game game. Yeah, I would need to. Yeah, we would need to see.

If you pull up a few, that's, I remember one was centuries, centuries was by Fallout Boy, walk on water by 30 seconds to Mars. Walk on Water was so good. Those two, those two I remember. I can't think of the others because they've been doing it for like

damn near 10 years now. Yeah. Damn near. Damn near. Speaking of damn near damn near football season is what it is. The Bustin Live show. September 19th, which is also will be coming to Lincoln, Nebraska, September 19th.

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That'd be great. It's the boys. Yeah, but we secretly have Jared walk out first and then no one follows them. So it's just Jared. That would be elite. That would be elite. We can think, thing something. You know he's listening to this. Somebody's going to send it to him. Ain't no way he listens to the intro. If we talk about him, he's got a guy, he's got a guy that shoots him what gets said. He probably does. Have a guy, man.

He probably does. Yeah, the live show is going to be incredible. That weekend will be insane. It'll be a lot of fun. It'll also be very tight, very, a lot of tightness going on. Me versus y'all. Me versus the bus. Taylor versus the

You have Matt Malone with you. Taylor versus the bus. Taylor, Juan and Matt Malone. This is Nebraska versus Michigan. Yeah. It's not Taylor versus the bus. In office bus,

it is. The bus I'm sitting in right now, it's Taylor versus the bus. I understand what you're trying to do, and at the end of day, it is Michigan versus Nebraska. I can't put the wing helmet on, although I wish I absolutely could

just to take a couple more heads. Yeah. It's my wife. And that's also the theme song from Good, the Bad, the Ugly, if you guys are wondering. Yeah, it's going to be a hell of a day. I literally am so excited for that.

I'm so excited. And then as soon as that's over, dude, it's spooked over. Exactly right there. It's spook. Made it through the game. Spooktober, dude. Right now we're what, 58 days away. If you're listening to this episode on Tuesday, we're shooting this on Friday, so it's 61 days.

I'm trying to carry the one a little bit. Is it 58, 57 days right now? Well, I looked it up right before we started the show, Sherman. It's not that impressive. I will say this about spook tover. It's an amazing time. It's incredible. I got bad luck during Spooktober.

There's anything, my right knee's got bad luck during Spooktober. 2020, what happened? Your boy tears it against Houston Texans. Have to get surgery. You have to be in Pensacola, Florida, forward knee. All right? 2022, first week of Spooktober, I have to get my knee fixed from the first surgery.

Now, fast forward to 2025. Your boy has trial for his knee starting October, Spooktober 20th. Ooh. I have two options here. The spookober curse. I have two options. I cut my right leg off and just say, hey, you're not ruining my spooktober.

Or I'm going to make the conscious decision when I'm in Pensacola, Florida. When this trial is going down, we still make time for the spook. We still get after it. Because the end of the day, you are what you do on a daily basis. And if I want to truly embrace spooktober, I need to be spooktober this year. I need to be it. Yeah. Are we going to hit a haunted house this year?

We got to hit a big move. I feel like there's some good scary movies coming out. There's a conjuring three coming out in September. Yeah, I think it's the final iteration. It is also 28 years later is coming out. Is it this year? It's already out. I think it's already out.

I might have to wait to watch that Spooktober 1. It's all right. I might have to wait to watch that Spooktober 1. Yeah. Because I want to kind of see 28 days, weeks, and then finally years. Because that I heard, I'm not a big like ratings guy, rotten tomatoes guy, but I love the fact that it has 100%. I've opened up at 100%. But I have seen some things on Twitter.

Twitter, apparently some of the zombies in this movie are hung. No shit. Like, like, McGregor hung. Yeah, disgusting. McGregor hung. Yeah. So I'm excited to watch it for sure. Yeah.

Yeah. I think they give anybody an excitement to watch it, dude. Yeah. Weapons looks like a spooky one. Weapons gonna be awesome. It already debuted at 100 on Rotten Tomatoes. But what about the critics? The critics.

Or not critics. What about the people? The audience score won't come out until it's actually hit box office, but the critics scores 100. that to me is my most anticipated movie of the year. I think I have such high expectations for it. If it lets me down, I'll cut off your right leg. You're a big ratings guy.

You're a big ratings guy. Love ratings. Aren't you talking about spooky movies and how like, if you get like a 75 is essentially like an elite movie? If you get a 75 or a 7.5 on IMDB with the audience in a scary genre, like you're cooking with gas. Got you. You're cooking with gas.

I like to make, I don't like to be pressed by other opinions. when it comes to my spooky viewing pleasures. So I get worried about the ratings. On the note of reviews. Are you okay? Hold on. The new naked gun movie. Did you hit record?

They hit record. Okay. Zombies are hung. The new naked gun, though, had 100% on Rotten Tomatoes with Liam Neeson. Really? Yeah. I don't think I've even seen the original naked gun. So I don't know if there's going to be people listening being like, that's Cardinal

sin, but I want to go see that. I've heard really good things about it. I'm not as big. I'm not a big critics Rodd Tomato. Oh, yeah, no, no. It's an audience. I'm an audience score. Oh, you're,

I'm audience. Will is a man of the people. He gives what the people think. Yeah. I'm somebody who's very easily entertained, so I pretty much enjoy damn near every movie. But I just like to know where it sits at, to know if I should be,

like if this is going to be a banger, or if it's rated lowly and I'm watching it, if it's rated lowly with the audience and I'm watching it, it's like I can, in my mind of my eye, I can see how they got there. The Transformers movies aren't rated that high IMDB and their gas. Exactly.

That's what I'm saying. I enjoy pretty much any movie I'm watching. It takes a lot to make you go. That movie sucks. Yeah, I just like knowing like, okay, I can see how they, I can see how they got to them. You know what movie I saw recently? No country for old men. Oh, wow.

I actually recently just watched it for the first time. I stopped. There's like 20 minutes left to the movie. I had to stop to put my kids to sleep. And I'm, I think I'm already sending out text like, have you seen this movie. This movie's absolutely incredible. I hated the end. ending of that movie.

Best one with the cow gun. Yes. I hated the end of that movie. Did you, I mean, obviously you guys got real big when I said I watched it the first time. It's one of the best villains ever.

Yeah, one of the best villains ever. I think the writing, Woody Harrell said, all the guys are awesome. They all do an amazing job in that movie. I didn't like the way the movie ended. Did you guys feel that same way

or you guys were totally fine? People like psychiatrists have done like studies and stuff on that movie and who's the guy, who's the actor's name? Javier Bardem. Yeah, who plays a villain? His character is the closest thing there's ever been to like a psychopath in a movie.

Yeah, I've seen that same stuff. I'm saying I love the characters. I love the storyline. I love the movie. But the ending, I was like, I feel like it does a disservice. I forget how it is. One of the other things it does that piss a lot of people off

is it killed the protagonist off screen, which is crazy. Yeah. I'd forgotten about that. Dude, yes, that pissed me off too. And I was like all this. And sorry, spoilers. But yeah, it's like Josh Rollins all of a sudden.

It's like, yeah, we found this dead body in this motel room. In El Paso, Texas. It's like, you, could we like, this guy's been hunting that guy for how long? Yeah. And he just gets murked and we're like, damn. I'm making myself, that's fucking wild. It's crazy. I literally paused it like right before that to put my children down.

I'm thinking I cannot wait to finish this movie. And then that happens. And I'm like, well, that's a little fucking weird. and then the last scene when he sees the girl and she's like, I know you're here, blah, blah, blah. And then he walks out the door. I like that part where it's like, it's the wife, correct?

It's the wife. Yeah, yeah. She goes, I knew you'd be here eventually. I think that the, what's the villain's name again? Javier Bardin. Javier Bardem. Bar dem. Bardam.

Javier Bardem. I thought he, I loved him. But then when he leaves, I mean, we're already given spoilers. And the car accident happens. Is this a new movie? He's like sticking out of his arm. It's like,

yeah. Yeah, yeah. The kids give him the Mr. Mr. Are you okay? He's like, give me your shirt. And he like takes the shirt and he wraps around and he walks off. And then it goes to the sheriff giving like a five minute monologue about a dream he had that doesn't make any sense to me. And then the movie's over. Make it make sense, Sherm. Call it. Call it. That's one of probably the best things in the movie. Call it. What are we calling? Where are we playing? Where are we playing?

for. Yeah. And then just gets murked. No, he lives. Oh, he does live, but the, the cop does it. The cop does not. Yeah, that's a, it's a great movie, terrible ending. That got me into what Willis was talking about how it's easy. It's easy for him to watch a movie and not be upset by things. It is a rage-based summer. That has been. We're going to take a quick break because we are brought to you by simply safe. What do you want to keep safe in your life? Your family, your kids, your new car in the garage. Traditional security systems only take action after someone else is broken in and that is too late. SimplySafe is setting the new standard in home security. With active guard outdoor protection, SimplySafe's monitoring agents can help prevent break-ins

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Titans, Titans. Titans. Titans. Tines. Tons too. Yeah, Micah Parsons, too. That's, I was surprised with the Terry McLorn one. I thought he was happy out there.

Maybe I think it's all coming down to contract stuff. Maybe some posturing, but to me it's like, we got to make him. Michael Parsons makes sense because you see Miles Garrett, Max Crosby, a handful of other guys signed the largest NFL contract, non-quarterback NFL contract in history over and over and over again. It kind of just keeps on going. And here's in him, Michael Parsons, he's with them in that same. If you talk about who's the best pass rushers right now, Michael Parsons,

his name's always brought up. And you got Jerry Jones out there in the pressers talking about, Do what? Calling him Michael. What did he call him Michael? Yeah, one of his press conferences. I could have been his accent or he could have just called him Michael, but he was like, yeah, Michael Parsons.

He's talking about like paying guys. He took like a subtle shot at deck at deck press got. Maybe Micah too. He talks about paying guys and, you know, we only had him for X amount of games last year. But I could see Micah wanting to get out of Dallas. Yeah, he took a major shot at Micah. He took a what?

He took a major shot at Mike. Right, right. so I could see him wanting to get out of Dallas. Terry, scary Terry just surprises me. I didn't know it was, it got to a spot to where he's publicly requesting a trade. I feel like that's also a wild time to be requesting a trade after getting your franchise quarterback and like going to the NFC championship game. And then actually your team actually getting better on paper as well. Debo came in.

Maybe he's going to get less balls. Maybe he's worried about that. They're two different kinds of players. I'm with you, but. Divo's a guy you just give him the ball and like, hey, go. And he gets after it.

Terry's to do it take the top off and just absolutely push all the backfield away from everything so then you can check it down to Dibo. But I think Terry is just looking for some financial security. And he's not getting what he wants. But Buddy, you have an opportunity

to make something massive happen in Washington. And everything you've said about the Washington media, the fan base, like they've been begging for this, begging for it. Their position well, I think it's the Eagles

in that division. Yeah. all day long. Yeah. They were dominant champions last year. I think the Giants take a step this year. There's not going to be, I don't know if they're going to be a playoff team,

but something about Scadabo and Dart. I need them to be a, like, ridiculous duo. Yes, I got Scadabo on the preseason all white team, the watch list. Is Ross not going to start, though? I don't know. No, I think he is starting. He's like, yeah. But I'm watching, I'm watching clips of Jackson Dart

and Scataboie walk out. together they're wearing opposite jerseys they have a nice little banter and it's like i'd like these two to be the faces in my franchise if i'm the giants i like this to happen i like scatabo to run angry neighbors who's a free yeah yeah dude you see some of the clips in a hill carter yeah aliens yeah right i don't know how do you think uh i like that that that that dart scadabo they just got a couple guys out there i'm really into loves the white guys yeah the uh i want the uh the giant's A good starting running back in Tyrone Tracy, too. He was a rookie last year, like, was a wide receiver,

transfer or switch to running back. He's a pretty good player, too. They need just need a healthy offensive line. For sure. They need a lot of things. They need a lot of things. They could. Like, they'll improve, but I mean, who are they going to jump over?

No, they're not jumping over. They're going to be fourth, but I think they'll improve as a franchise rule. They'll get done with their season and be like, hey, obviously not what we want, but I think we're taking steps in the right direction. Would you take their over and wins? What's that? Would you take their over? It depends what it is.

You can pull that up for me right now. I'll say this about Russell Wilson as well. I've talked to people that were at the Broncos with him, and they were kind of like really anti him the way he came in, the way he acted, his attitude. And towards the end of his stint there, you could see a little more humility, a little more he can see where he went wrong.

So if he still is trending that way, that'd be great for Russell, who's had all the experience, won Super Bowls, has had a great career. to get a guy like Jackson DART and teach him a couple of things. Because Jackson's got that, you got something about him. You know, you got a little something about him. Yeah.

Yeah, be interesting. What's the totals? On the Fanduals sports book. Analyzing? Analyzing. Five and a half. Five and a half wins. Pull up their schedule.

I'm going to, I'm going to feel that one out a little bit. Five and a half wins. I'm going to feel that one out. My gut says under. my gun says under commanders L Cowboys L Chiefs L

Chargers L Saints dub Eagles L Broncos L Eagle yeah we're going under they're going under

They got a schedule They got a gone So when I think when they finish this season They're going to look and be like That was a tough schedule Yeah we're getting better We're getting better In some areas

Yeah and I think you have a schedule like that With some defenses that are on that schedule there might be a time we're like, hey, let's throw the rookie in there and see what he can do a little bit. If he shows a little bit of improvement, you can have that Will Levis vibe that the Titans had a year ago where it's like, we got something here, boys.

But yeah, let's go under on that. Five and a half. Yeah. My God tells me. The G. Men out there. You think Jackson Darts showing up 5 a.m. every day? No. Like old Cam Ward.

Cam Ward is saying and doing all the right things right now without seeing any of this film. I'm excited to watch him play. Yeah. The juiciest Cam Ward video out there right now is when he's going back and forth the big jeff. Oh, is this the one that Callahan is talking about how he's he's talking shit while Callan's

calling the play and then talk shit and then still says the play out loud. That's a that's a veteran shit right now. He's doing what he's telling. So he's. Yeah. Jeff, no, Big Jeff is talking shit to Cam Ward. Cam Ward is talking shit back while this interaction is happening.

Callahan is in the green dot giving him the play. He finishes talking shit and said the things he wanted to say to Jeff while also retaining the play goes in the huddle says the play and it's smooth. It's like a 60 yard bomb. Yeah. That is the type of shit that gets you juiced up. Yeah. And it's like he's a little bit disrespected on the Madden.

He comes and he goes, good things come to those who work. Madden the next day goes, I feel like we fucked up after he dropped that bar on us. So they jump him up to a 72, which is still crazy. They give me crazy. Yeah. EA again, I think Madden and them, I think they do a great job of getting like trolling the world. I agree. I agree.

seems like Cam is one of the least talked about first overall picks of all time. As a Titans fan, that's where you want to sit right now. You want no media. You want no nothing. I don't think we have any primetime games this year, do we? No. Zero. Zero.

And it's like again, your national Tennessee. This is exactly where you want to be as a Titans fan. Wake up early. Get ready for your noon slate game and just watch the world slowly, incrementally get better. So maybe next year you got one or two of them, boys. But you want to live in the shadows right now. Gain your strength in the darkness.

Week 14, we're undefeated. They might flex us. If you're, yeah. Yeah, that's fair. And we will be undefeated. So go ahead. At NFL. Taylor,

you try to just not say weed right there. Well, I'm not in the team anymore. I do support and love the Titans a lot. I do support and love the Titans quite a bit. It's just one of those things that's like, you want them to do well? I feel like I do a, in my mind, do a better job of being unbiased when comes to the NFL because that's what I'm most recent

to and you can kind of like sit in a locker and be like this is the team we have and you know like what the expectation is kind of what your ceiling is and I remember being in college being like we're going to win the big then champion I'm coming back from my senior year because we're going to win the big 10 championship fast forward six and six buffalo wallings bowl right so you just kind of live in a world of delusion Kate in my pool being like we're Vanderbilt we're going to win the national championship and I'm like I know you believe that but I know it's not also not true and it's will not happen. No disrespect to the the to Vanderbilt but what it is. But just one more thing on cam war just with the one-liners today. It's Friday man. You know,

we don't catch a lot of Friday. True. Intros. But when it all shakes out and the dust settles in about a decade, it's going to go Warren Moon three, Steve McNair to two, Cam Ward one. All the way you win. Great. Greatest QBs. And Titans franchise the street. I love the excitement and optimism. And I very well could get crushed week one. It throws a pick, you know, first drive. I love how Jack just said all that and said,

all my dreams could go down the tank in the first game of the season. This is the first time I have felt so optimistic about a player, like actually confident. Like every year, I'm blindly optimistic. Yeah, I know that Mile High City, bro. Yeah, dude, we played in September. We played week one in Denver That shit sucks

Hard to breathe That dicks Only been in camp 10 days Yeah And an easy 10 days too That back half 10 days are the easiest 10 days Yeah we got

They have the best corner in the league Yeah They're finding something in Denver We gotta go Oh Bo Nix Taking that year two steps Sean Payton That'll be a tough

They'll for sure have growing pains But as far as like optimism and for the player that Cam Ward could be, it is sick being on the ground level and getting that. It seems like the team has good chemistry right now. Like they're having fun, which is also exciting.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Rippin' lips on Percy. Calvin Ridley. Rip and the cold tubs with the boys do a little cannonball in the cold tub. That's another thing. We need to get Cal Rydley on.

Oh, yeah. There's definitely things I miss, but I'm saying like, I'm thankful that I'm not out. I'm thankful I'm not doing it anymore. I left it I emptied the tank I left no doubt

every ounce of my being is out there on the field yeah here 1-11 we do need Calvin We left with an empty cup We need Calvin Ridley Yeah we need

He's been interacting On the bus He's been interacting With a ton of our posts On social So Get him on Jack All right Calvin

Come on man Come on my show Slid Dude you used to play for this team Yeah I didn't play With him And you host this podcast Yeah but he knows

who you are They got a statue of you in the parking lot In that wheelchair There's some rumors flying around The Titans and bust one The boys might be doing some stuff together this year Whispers They're just whispers

Wispers Are you gonna like say we then Are you gonna say like We're gonna be out there We will be with Titan The Titans getting after it We are the Titan We are to be the Titans

Are you Wii with Michigan or now? Yeah I'm way That's crazy We all know it took a couple years To get him we with Michigan It'll take a couple of years I took him. Yeah, if the Titans were winning the Super Bowl, he would say we too.

Yes, I don't disagree with any of the things you guys are saying. I'm for whatever reason. Don't know. Probably have to break it down, not when I'm in the middle of a podcast of why I'm not saying we, but I have a harder time getting too we. Maybe it's fresh. Maybe I did get cut a couple years ago. Maybe I'm in camp. I'm just talked about how I miss it.

I'm a little sad right now. Who knows? Yeah. I think you applied for an extra role as a zombie in that movie and you didn't get it. You know why I didn't get it too. You know what? get it too. I applied too.

All the boys hung out there. Obviously I looked around and going, fuck, I ain't going to get the cut in this thing. You're going to get a prop for the wand. Yeah. Jesus Christ. What's going on here with these boys? Man. All black zombies, man.

Yeah, dude. It's tough. Should we talk about how excited we are to go on our little tour? Yeah, let's rip an ad first. Let's rip an ad. Let's talk about camp. Let's talk about Ro. Perfect time.

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And we will be hitting, yeah, we leave Sunday, come back Wednesday night. You jump around, we're going to go to the New England Patriots, see the boy coach Frabs. Brabys, stretch, stretch, Hoss, Frank. Oh, stretch, I forgot about stretch. You can't ever forget about stretch. Can't forget about stretch. Can't forget about stretch. Can't forget about stretch.

Yeah. Then we jump to Philadelphia. We'll be doing some interviews in Philly and then we will go up north, north of the wall, to Buffalo, Buffalo Bills. Little Josh Allen action. All your Buffalo Bills fans out there. Some Billy Bean. I'll tell you now, I don't fuck with Blue Cheese. I hate blue cheese.

I mess with your franchise. I mess with you guys. I do not. I will not touch your blue cheese. Can I say something? Go ahead. Yeah, I try it. I hate blue cheese,

but I try it because we want to... I'm going to go out to Buffalo with an open mind on this blue cheese. Maybe I'll hate it, but I'm saying I'm going to go out there with an open mind. I will try it. My mind is not... Blue cheese?

That was so loud. That was a good one. I also needed that one. I was nervous. Frank, the head strength coach at the Patriots used to be at the Titans. Yeah.

I told him, I was like, hey, we're going to be in town Monday. We get in Sunday. Is he with the bills? He's with the Patriots. Oh,

calls me and he's like, we get in a pumping or what? I'm like, yeah, we'll get a pumping Monday morning. So slate us in for that, buddy. The boys were back at it. That's awesome.

Frank's out there. Harold Landry. Harold Landry's out there. Drake May, who's him and his brother, fan of the show. Bobby Spillane. Bobby Spillane

He loves football They actually do have a sick roster Yeah they got a good group of boys out there man Stefan Diggs But we'll be hitting interviews Will Campbell Be hitting interviews in New England Philadelphia and Buffalo

Those will be coming out You know we will Through the month of August Yeah through the month of August Yeah A little vlog Fun little vlog Yeah it's gonna be a good time man

Just kicking off our fall Dude this is kind of This is like a little appetizer It was like an appetizer Before the big kickoff Yeah August 28th How do you think

brave is going to go about our sit down with him i think it's going to go exactly like you think it is we will both be more nervous than we usually are for our podcast he will make some off-putting comments to us as jokes we will receive them we will think about saying anything like taylor looks like you're too skinny now it's like yeah rape looks like you took all my weight i'll think that and then i won't say that because at the end day it's still rapes so that's how i think he's going to go. Okay. How do you think it's going to go? Yeah, I think everything you're saying. I'm actually excited to sit down. I'm excited too. Like not a lot of, not a lot of nerves is trying to figure out where he's going to go. Because if he says the, uh, Taylor looks like you lost a lot

of waiter makes a skinny joke. I'll now be able to, you know how it gets. It's like, okay, now I'll, I'll go team Braves and make, hey, Taylor was going to say this about you, goes Braves. Yeah, you were. You absolutely. I don't doubt that at all. But you know, dude, it'll be, it'll be interesting to see him in his element there. And with Vrable, it's always, like, it's always on Vrable's terms. Like, we kind of have to figure out what mood Vrable's in that day. I think he's going to be in a great mood. I think he is too.

I think he's excited. I think he's excited. He'll sit down. 20 bucks says, he says, daddy's home is his first thing when he sits on the bus or sits in the chair. Yeah. That he made us. Yeah.

All those things will come. Yeah. You guys are welcome. All the success. Take a shot of my career. I mean, he took shot at the Manning Brothers for us. He goes, we're, funnier, less successful versions of the Mannings.

So, it was a shot at y'all. It was a shot. No, no, I take that. Those are. I thought it was a compliment. I'll take funnier and we are less successful in the Manning brothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he was hitting them a little bit.

You're funnier, he said. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my fault. I thought he gave us a compliment. My fault. Yeah, it was just a fact. Just a fact. We'd love to get some film room in with him. We'd love to sit in a team meeting and just hear him talk to them boys.

Or I'll just run the team meeting for them. Yeah, because I want to know what version of able, are we seeing 2018 first year of Mike Vrabble where he's trying to turn the culture around or we're sitting like a 2020, 2020, 2021 Brable where it's a little more relaxed he understands the product

he's about to put on the field with the boys. Yeah, I don't know. Patriots could be dangerous this year. Could be. They could be dangerous this year. Could be. But then out of, yeah, Miami the Jets and New England.

Traded Jalen Ramsey around. Their other corner just got ACL? Yeah, ACL. So everybody in their secondary training camp. Everybody in their secondary, no one was there last year. So Miami's already dealing with a couple of issues there. You got Buffalo who's just an absolute juggernaut. I keep thinking this.

I have to look more into it, but I think this is the Bill's year. I feel like it is. And then the jets are going to jet. I agree with that. I think New England's got a shot to be the two. I think New England has a shot to be the two as well. Because the dolphin, it's like they had a skitty last year. Tua has health issues.

They're back in. It sounds like they're having a lot of hard times there. A lot of people coming at his veneers. To us? Yeah. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new?

Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to us. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.

So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.

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Pooka shells, they said. Was that a Garrett or was that a... You read that somewhere. Yeah. He's got some nice new veneer. Look at it. That's a good smile. This is a show that's about some veneers.

We support veneers. We support veneers. Maybe a Christmas gift for all the boys in the bag. Just make them all get veneers. I'll take it. I think it would be a great gift from you. You know what? I wouldn't mind like a little something.

Yeah, I see Ernest walking around sometimes. You got like a goal at one point, didn't you? Oh yeah, I wanted a grill. I wanted like a one of those custom mouthpieces that was a grill. Yeah. Because I never really wore a mouthpiece. Oh, that, uh, D.B. Wear.

Because I kept thinking to myself, white guy from Cave Creek, Arizona, tatted dark visor in a grill. I think that's hilarious. You're riffraff. Yeah. I was actually became a riffraff. Yeah. I never got to do it, though.

That's why you're missing, man. You need that grill. I will say it was funny the first time that I was here in Vrable came on the bus because you guys were like hyping it up big time. I'm like, oh, this is going to be epic. And I was not thinking of coach player relationship at all. And right when everybody sits down, it just kind of goes quiet. And you are like, so how's it going?

I thought this was going to go at all. I thought there were boys with them. You know, that respect comes in. Yeah. And it is very much like Rabel decides how the conversation is going to go. So if like you start making jokes to really, he'll flip up and go serious on you. You're like, all right. And then it's like really when he's ready to be funny.

It's like, all right, I guess we'll joke around now. Also, the last time he came on, he kind of cooked you with that trash bag bit. Yeah, he did. Do we try and formulate something as a, I don't know what it would be. Maybe it may give him like a... Whatever it is, we have to keep it quiet. We can't say it on the show. You know, he's a tier one.

Stretch is watching right now for Brable. Cut this. Cut this. We're going to have to... Yeah, this is for the Braves episode. Right, but... Oh, that's right. This is for the Braves episode.

All right. Enjoy the Braves episode. We're able interview. We are, this is so retarded. Oh, shit. You could bring like a trash game. Like, hey, you guys forgot this or a trash bag. Like, yeah, you forgot this in Tennessee.

Like, we just wanted to make sure you got it. Like, kind of just, it's the same joke, but like, yeah, we could do that. But I don't know if you. I don't think we have enough room with the plan. I just don't know if you want to reuse that joke like on hand. Be like, oh, that's cute. Yeah, he'd get us. He'd get over something.

He's probably working on something himself right now. That's what I'm saying. He probably is going to be ready. for war. We should give him a bag of pink like dust. Go on. Did you see Stefan Diggs? He might be.

Never mind. Maybe I just hit like, we get in the Vrabble fits and then we're just like ripping a jewel like as he sits down. I think we should get in a Vrabble fit before this podcast for sure. That actually would be hilarious.

Yeah. Yeah, just vest. Fugged. You already both got the mustache. Yeah. Figure out what he's wearing that day. And being on it. picture of him be on the top of the shirt with y'all oh yeah i haven't said a perfectly good busting shirt is what he

did i miss rabelman i hope i hope jen comes she's not gonna be there i asked really yeah yeah damn it's gonna be good he uh he hit me up because him and stretch were watching film i don't know how they got across his clip but it was when you know i i forced him recover to fumble against the detroit's like at the goal line he's like stretch is trying to tell me you force his fumble but day kwan Dekwon loosened it up before you got there. He's right. I ended up getting credited with the stat. Dayquan was pissed after the game.

He's like, hey, I cause it phone. I know, but you're going to get the stat. And I was like, yeah, well, you cause a fumble. I'm saying, I'm acknowledging that you cause a fumble. He's like, yeah, but you're on social media. Everybody's going to think you did it. But I don't know what you want me to say. Of course, I'm going to hype it up.

Daycon, man. I love Daycon. What's he doing now? He's still playing, isn't he? I don't think so. He was on the bills last year. Somewhere. I almost said Chicago, but I don't think in Chicago.

Just put Dequan Jones. He put his Dayquins still playing. Shirm, what kind of. Can you go to all? Can we see if he's still playing? Jesus. It's Sherm. Shirm's got no problem putting up all the most weird stuff in the world.

Yeah, we need some information here. Shirm. Are you looking it up? He's with the bills. Okay. He's with the bills. We'll see him when we're in Buffalo then. Let's go.

Sherm. What else, dude? Our internship has come to a close. Yeah, that's a great photo. I actually just texted Columbus. I bring cheese on the bus. Yeah. It's his last day.

Yeah. So we had five interns, and we hired three of them. That's a big. That's big. We had expectations of hiring one for social. Yeah. But the boys are leaving with three. Big cheese.

He's what? Cheese is what, 19 years old? He's got to go back to school. He was talking about it. I said, buddy, you got to go back to school. You gotta, you don't sacrifice everything to join Bustin with the boys right now. You gotta, yeah, you gotta go back to school. That feels like forever.

I think you have to have a degree to get the job here. Yeah, yeah, we have. Gotta have a degree. You gotta have a degree. Bacades in camp. We hired Matt Malone, chef Jack, and Ryan Burrow. Good group of boys, man. Yeah, good group.

And that is the most blessing thing ever to be like, well, maybe hire one guy. Yeah. And then they're all great. We're like, we got it. We can't have this guy. Got to find a role. Made themselves,

made themselves invaluable. There was something that happened, was it two days ago? Where Matt Malone is essentially under Jack. Essentially. But then they raced. Weird. And Matt,

I believe, beat you in a race? Yeah. By like, a little bit. I think, hold on. I think if you,

Matt reached out with his hand, you went headbutt. I think it would have been a tie. And I'm wearing vans running at 30 years old, no warm up. 30. Uphill. I think it would have been a tie if he was faster than I thought it would be. I got Jack on the field, though.

For sure. You do, J.P. Yeah. Big cheese, big cheddar. Come on here, big dog. Chetty. A lot for cheese. You're sitting in the main chair, bro.

What's going on? We were just talking about how it's the, we were talking about recapping the internship and how it was your last day. Yeah, it's been crazy. Did you learn a lot? Yeah, I did. I did. Learn a whole bunch from these guys in the back. You did the most recent bussings. I thought you did a hell of a job. Thank you. I appreciate it. It took a lot of time. Shout out J.P. for helping the kid out. But yeah, it's been awesome. Who wrote those note cards? Was that J.P.'s questions? Were those your questions? We collabed on it. Yeah. Yeah, I would say he came up with a couple really good ones.

So yeah, we collab. When you were on, it's called Inside the Bus now. Yeah. When you were on Inside the Bus, you sat down with the boys and they said, give me one word to describe each guy sitting here. Can you go,

what was your original words for the guys? And then what is your new word for them? I stayed pretty respectful. Good. As you should. I might have gave Garrett some grief. I don't know what I, I don't remember.

I did say Mitch, I said hyphenated, big ass head yeah um i thought that was oh i said yeah um jack was always on twitter hyphenated of course um yeah from moving forward i think i think garrett would just be um helpful gerrit's a very helpful guy whenever i need him we have hey we're growing um um jp um um JP's open-minded. Very open-minded guy. Jack is fucking online.

He keeps saying it under his breath too. Go ahead. Mitch. Still, he's still got a big-ass head. High-havenated, yeah. That's as long as he can go. Shirm's got to be goofball. Sherm's a big goofball.

And then Jack, yeah, always on Twitter. You're still always on Twitter, man. Yeah. Still horny. How about your mentor, Jared? How do you feel about him? How's the process been of him teaching you?

He has been amazing. Every single question, I feel like I was peppering him all the time with like random questions and just like things that can get kind of repetitive. But he did a really good job with us. And we made, we bonded really well, really fast. Because I feel like our stories are kind of similar when it comes to getting a really cool

internship opportunity early on in our careers. And yeah, we bonded very quickly. And I feel like he did a killer job with all of us for sure. Nice. So, yeah, he helped me grow and learn a lot. We're going to miss you, bro. You're a boy for life. We're going to miss you.

I thought overall, just the intern. It was an incredible learning experience. For us, I hope you guys got a lot out of it too, but it was kind of new for us. Yeah. Chartered Waters. Right. And we kind of did just decide to do this internship. We had like a little with the two boys from Michigan, a little like, you know, okay, let's see how it kind of feels.

Let's dip our toe in. Went full on board. And it was like, all right, Jared, you run this entire thing. Yeah. And I thought Jared did a great job. Did a great job. Could have picked a better group of boys. Yeah.

Flew by, man. That first day we walked in and I was looking around. I was like, they brought five new guys in. There's got to be one odd one. I mean, Matt's got his own thing going on. But you picked five amazing guys. Jared did a great job hiring us. Yeah.

You crushed it, man. You've been with us for two months now. Away from home, are you excited to get back home? I am super excited to get back home back to see my family, see my friends and everything. But a little bit of my heart is going to be left in Nashville here. Is anything for cheese before we send them off? I was to say, what was some of your favorite moments from the summer? Because we did some cool shit this summer.

It was a cool summer. Amazing summer. Obviously, that first day coming in and just like Will and Taylor just calmly saying, yeah, we're going to throw you guys on the bus really quick. And I was just like freaking out. Like, I don't recall that at all. Freaking out. But obviously, Titanew was an awesome week.

Yeah. We did. We did go over. We did hang out Mitch's house. Yeah. We did watch the fight. We did watch the fights at Jacks. Yeah, I had a great time. I feel like you guys really brought me in. And I, the brunch too. Yeah, we had a killer. We had a killer somewhere. But yeah, you guys just taking me in and taught me a lot. So I had a great, had a great time. It's been sick, dude. It's been a lot of fun for sure. We did come a long way. from that first time you were on inside the bus.

Yes, we did. He did kind of, he grilled cheese me. He grilled cheese, yeah. Okay. My first experience with cheese, I walked up

in that little area where the old beer punk stuff is you guys had made like a little office for them and I grabbed this hat and I put it on and cheese goes, we fucking are fighting.

You don't wear a cowboy's hat. I go, what are you talking about? He goes, he took my hat. That's a cowboy. Yeah, he goes, he took my hat and put it on. I just thought to myself.

That was a bar. Close. I got. I got it. Just big dog meat. I just met him for like the first time. We fucking or fight. Don't take a cowboy's hat.

No doubt about it. Well, geez, we appreciate you, man. You did a great job. You were awesome, man. Boy for life. Let's give him around. Appreciate it, boys. Big Chetta.

Oh, my. He just fucking sunned you. Twice. Like, back to back. He smacked him on the leg. That's how he did. Hey, that's what he did on his first day, though. Good fucking riddance, man.

Get him at. That's what he did on his first day. He did, man. Yeah, dude. Great internship. Good three group of guys, two and a half, good group of guys coming in, staying with bus. Matt's got his, Matt's got his own bag, man. He is literally the only guy supporting Michigan with you.

That's not true. Coup is. Well, yeah. Coup is a Michigan fan. Have you talked to Coup, though? About it? Or about Tray McBride? Coup was saying he was kind of.

Coup did have a good time in Nebraska. Dude, I'm not taking anything away from Nebraska. Nebraska Lincoln is awesome. Fan base is great. The stadium's loud. The people are awesome. I think my team's better than your team. That's it.

I love Will. I love Nebraska. That's all. And we're going to find out September 20th when I'm the only one on that plane flying back with a big ass smile on my face. Y'all going to feel dumb. But Matt.

Matt's got his own bag, dude. Matt's got his own little deal going on. Up-ill battle right now. For Matt? Yeah. Yeah. And I told him, after two because when you guys raced

you guys walked in I keep hearing people saying Matt you cheated you cheated blah blah he's just like my arms along I don't cheat whatever he was saying Yeah well he also he said Fuck like seven times around my kids Which the first time's funny but it's like hey we can do that Second time I get it we all make mistakes

Third four fifth six seven time I'm like brother What are we doing? He's yelling it too But I brought him in I was like hey come here I go I don't know what bit you're doing but like the right now this first six months you have at busting with the boys is going to be the bed that you are going to have to sleep in so how do you want to represent yourself to these guys because eventually it'll just be there'll be the evidence and be like how's Matt Matt's like this no I'm not here's the evidence I was like you got to realize the bed you're kind of making for yourself right now because I'm watching it I'm just like I'm like this is a young ass cat but then I see the what is it under the hood everyone's like what's your pet pee? Matt goes JP the rest of him go Matt. So let's see what we're doing, Matt.

He's got high ceiling. You just see a lot of potential. Yeah, it's a lot of potential. He's a lot in a little bit. And at the end of the day, he's my guy. So I got, you know, me and him, I was like that too at a younger age. And then you turn 30 and you grow up, you know? You turn 30 and you grow up.

Just switches like that. He's got seven years. No, but I do think he's a, he's a, he's a younger age, and you're a younger age. like a good punching bag. He takes a joke well. But like the song of shit he says is just like so out of pocket that you're like, dog. Like I don't know if you live in like a perpetual bit or if you are literally just a huge

douchebag. Right. And I think it's half and half, but I love the end of death. But buddy, if you're, if you're. Guys, we got a love on him. His family's watching this. No doubt. And we're trying to get his family to call him and be like, hey, sounds like they do.

I think they do anytime we mention them. We got to condition them too. Yeah. But oh, yeah. And if like Matt is a guy that is good at taking a joke, that's great. But eventually, if you become the guy that's always the butt of the joke, it hurts eventually. Mitch, am I right? Yeah.

I mean, fuck. How often have you been like, I'm the butt of every joke? And it's like, yeah, it's fun for a little bit. But then it's like, holy shit. I mean, I've just gotten used to it at this point three years in. I mean, it is what it is. And like, but Matt seems more, he's like, dude, I don't know what you guys are even fucking saying. Like, where does this even coming from?

It's like, Matt, you put this on yourself. I don't know if I necessarily put it. on myself by saying. Hold on that. Matt's a really good thing that's happened for you. No, no doubt.

Yeah. No doubt. So let's just let that dog lie. Okay. I do like Matt. I'm just saying, I worry about him. I worry about him a little bit.

I got a bunch of sharks back here that might get his ass. The last thing I'll say about him, he said just a classic Matt euphemism today where he's like, yeah, I'm meeting up with my ex-girlfriend. I haven't seen her in eight months. He goes, things have just been too good recently. He goes, I need some chaos in my. life. I was like, are you to hook up with these? Like, no, no, no. I just need to stir the pot a little.

I was like, dog, what are you doing? I swear to God, I've heard that exact thing come out of your mouth. I'm telling you, as a reformed, as a reformed douchebag, but I feel this guy. I swear I've heard Jack say that before. That message right now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm laying out the the footprints for him. Right. And he's got seven years until he's got to figure his shit out. So the clock is ticking. Love the boy, man. Love them. Love our additions. We love Matt, Miss Malone, and he's in good hands.

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Enjoy these interviews. Until everything was ready. We got eight 30. Yeah. Okay. 820 set up. Ready to go. Just talking brave stories. Like the hat. Did we got a hat? You can leave me with a hat? You're not a big hat guy. Well, I might be. I like the rope. We'll get you hooked up. I do. I like it.

Carter likes him. Do you remember what you said to me when I was late for a team meeting one time? Yeah, thank God you're rich. And then what happened? I find you. Yeah. No other words were talked about. That's it.

It was great. We moved on. And so we're here. We were early. I was on time. 920. Stacey 920. Stacey.

Thank you, Stacy. Thank you, Stacy. Welcome to Bustin with the boys. again dude third time it was a charm good to see you back on your feet thank you yeah we don't think i don't think i was ever off my feet but well we're in tennessee yeah there's like a little browns consultant consultant we've all been fired yeah shit canned yeah go ahead taylor yeah don't get scared now yeah ask the hard stuff let's go back on my feet what took place in that conversation that led, because when the season ended,

everyone's like Braves is going to get extension. The rumor is that Braves is now going to go from my H.C. to actually have a little more of a GM role as well, maybe a little more power in the building. And then you walked into a meeting and you walked down. No, that wasn't a meeting. Those aren't meetings. You just get fired.

They just called you and fired you? No, you walk upstairs. Yeah, you just... How'd you handle it? I just said, give me an hour and I'll be out of here. I just want to talk to my staff. I feel like you wouldn't be a fun guy to fire. No, it was, I meant...

Again, everybody makes decisions. And any question? No, I got the point. I get the drift. So there was never like, hey, what do you think could have happened differently? Obviously, the Asian ground trade happened? No. No, at that point, no, there was no.

Again, it was no discussion. I heard the message and I just said, give me an hour. I'd like to talk to my staff and I'll box my stuff up. Just spin the cup. Yeah, don't I don't spit. How close were you to coaching in college? Because there were rumors throughout. Ohio State?

Not very close. Not very close. There were rumors about you potentially being the defensive coordinator at Nebraska. Not. Remember when I texted you? I was like, hey, what you had any interest? No, and what I text. I didn't even text back or no.

I forget what you said. No, not very close. No. And I love my time in Cleveland. I mean, I love being on the offensive side of the ball. I loved just getting back to coaching. Help the O-line, you'd have loved it. I bet.

You were in there? All the time. Telling guys to wall off on the backside of duo. Hey, just getting the way. You're the backside. Inside out. Deuce, near foot it. Was there anything during that time with Cleveland?

Backside hand in a sternum. Got to have it there. A little leverage. Man reach. Take them on the angle. You find them. Are you running the same offense in Cleveland? There were some similarities.

Yeah. Was there a time like just having that year in Cleveland to where you found or reignited some passion that you had that when you were you were at first head coach all the expectations all the pressure and then you kind of just go into a consulting role and kind of having more fun around cleveland i think that that's probably there's some truth to that i think there's some um reality to that i think you realize that you miss it you know and that you want to do it that there's nothing else that you want to do do do you have uh what do you feel like you learn from the first time as a head coach now coming into new england well i mean i think we learn stuff

every day. I mean, it's just going to be things that come up every day, situations, injuries, you know, I mean, we always talk about distractions are unavoidable. It's how we handle them. And so just staying flexible, staying consistent, you know, focusing on the guys that want to improve that are taking a message and those things that sometimes I let the, you know, the small majority affect all the other positive stuff. Yeah. You'd always say you can't fuck up my Friday, but sometimes you'll, sometimes they try. Yeah. No, I mean, they tried.

Taylor tried and all, everybody tried. I think sometimes you still got a little. My stuff was more unintentional. I probably did, but it was a good message. It was a good tagline. How did you do that development of you and James Winston running at the start of every practice? So they would go routes on air, right? And then they would go.

And I was like, I mean, I'm, I could push these guys a little bit, just goofing around. I'd wait to the last guy thrown and take off running and just trying to have some fun down there in the Greenbrier down in West Virginia. Have you ever seen a guy? What a spirit that guy has. I was going to say, have you ever met a guy? Never. Never. You think it's like, you know, two, three days in, this is a schick, right?

Yeah. Three, five, a week, two weeks, you're like, it's impossible to stay in character this long. This is actually really this guy is. He's the best method actor of all time. Yeah. I'm like, now this is just a stick. And I'm like, nope, this is, I loved it. It's awesome.

When did it feel like New England was going to be a real possibility for you? Well, I mean, just going through the process of interviewing and having teams reach out. He's doing the thing right now. The coach talk? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think after the season, like, that's when it heats up. You know, I mean, that's when people call.

How about this? How about this? So we get, so because the coach, yeah, yeah, the interview process, everything else. Are you leaving a good interview? Are you leaving like after you have a good interview and you're just thinking, man, what if I become the head coach of the Patriots? Hey, there's three banners up there. You reminded us all the time to where.

No, I didn't. 14 years in league, three Pro Bowls. What do I know? I sat in every single chair in this meeting room. You guys. We juice it a little bit. Taylor, listen, just stay in front of your guy. Listen, what do I know?

I've done it for 14 years. No, that is not true. You guys exaggerate that. You guys exaggerate that. What are you talking about? Hang on, hang on. I don't do that. That's not my shit.

He's not arguing with him. He's getting me right now. That's not my stick. But legit, legit, like, whether you're flying back or you're driving and you're just thinking, what if I'm the head coach of the New England Patriots? Yeah. I mean, I think that that goes through. And I think that the timing was right and had opportunity to come back here probably prior as

an assistant. I didn't feel like that was something that I wanted to do or that was what was best for me at that particular time. and then I think the timing was right. Was the interview process a little bit different with the Patriots because you have the relationship with Kraft? Called them up, say, hey, what are you thinking? No, I mean, they were all about the same.

They were all about the same. Yeah. I mean, as far as actually I met with Chicago, met with the Jets and then met with the Patriots and had talked to other teams, but didn't end up taking those interviews. Did any other teams offer you? Say, hey, do you like to have you?

Offer without an interview? No, like you. You end up talking to those couple other teams. Oh, no. I mean, I think that that, after meeting here, I think that happened pretty quick over the couple days. When you go out to practice and it's like, you know, fans can come in, the Jen Pop's watching, they're excited.

Do you ever hear anything about the 2019 season when you Bill Belichick's Bill Belichick? No, I mean, I don't hear anything about that specifically from the fans. Yeah. I mean, people are excited. I'm glad that they're excited and they come out and it's a good environment. We had a bunch of fans in the stadium on Friday. That would be a bunch up there today. They heard you guys were coming.

They did, didn't they? Yeah, they did. They're excited. I put it on the tweet. I hooked up with your boy, Frank. You ever interview Frank the Tank? Yeah, yeah. How smart is that guy?

Frank's awesome. He's an encyclopedia. I mean, it was like just... A couple times you're walking. You're like, where might this go? We just talk sports. Yeah. He is an encyclopedia.

You ever think about all the, about the age that I grew up Browns back then. He does. It's crazy. That was fun. Dude, I'm so fired. What else? Kids, everybody good? Everybody's great, man. Everybody's great.

You done it too, or how many more we haven't? We're up in the air right now, but we're open to a third one. We're open to a third one. How's the Lawan crew? Did you guys go to Canada? Went to Canada, just got back on the 21st. Wynn, Willow, turned 8 and 5. So, Winn just watched Harry Potter for the first time yesterday before we got in the plane to

there. What's that maker? your set third grade yeah third well second grade second grade the hold back held her back she got the little wand brain she starts reading a little bit i said i think myself you know what we're going to do you the favor that never happened for me we're going to hold you back a little bit good get you dialed yeah it's it's it's it's tough because you risk you go again you get three girls it's it's over yeah yeah yeah and he's the guy chased he was obviously chasing the boy was got the two is all right we'll do one more he's like yeah we'll have a little football player

Okay, or not. Yeah. Yeah. Can't just get it right like you did the first time and second time? And the second time. How the boys do? How's Tyler Carter? Tyler's actually at BC helping out O-line intern.

Yeah? Yeah, you helped out in the spring, and then they asked him to come back, help for the season. Nice. So he's grinding, figuring out that, figuring out the old. The coaching grind? Yeah, like just the whole, like, you know, when you play, you don't worry about. You see the diagrams, right? You don't realize where those run diagrams came from or where the defensive

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? And so it's on Vizio and he's like, that the first time I said, hey, can I help? And the guy's like, yeah, all these cards on Vizio.

He goes, I was there for four hours. I think I got three cards done. He's like, there's got to be a better way for this. And then he figured it out and, you know, and then Carter's back in Nashville.

How often does Tyler? Looking for a job. What is he doing? He's looking for a job. He graduated from Tennessee Tech, played baseball, and is looking for a job. Is he called the Pats?

No, he's not coming. He's not leaving Nashville. He's not leaving. He's staying there. You know he ain't trying to get his dad. No, he loves Nashville. He'll be up here for the games, but he just loves it. He went for a summer and was like hanging out in the equipment. He would, yeah, but he was awesome. He's past chasing jocks around, everything else. It's laundry. Is Tyler, does he pick your brain a lot for all the coaches of stuff? You know, he was asking about coverages as an offensive lineman, I think as a young one, you don't really worry too much about coverage. And now that he's drawing cards, he just wants to know, you know, coverages and rotation and whether the weak safety's down or the weak safety's

pressure and is he outside the end you know all the things that we would talk about um you know i think he's just understanding the game i think he's excited about helping the young players he was a developmental player um and so he's like i get to work with the threes there's some young guys that i think have potential so i think that there's some excitement there from from helping those guys does he want to coach coach with you one day i don't know about that you know i mean i just I think he wants to see if he wants to coach and if he's willing to go on this journey. What was the conversation like with him?

Because before we were going, I was trying to catch up to on what he was up to. And I just saw that July 30th, he was on injury reserve in 2024. And I assumed like, okay, he's out. So he, and Tyler just decided that he didn't want to do to practice squad again. That had been his, you know, his decision.

And again, that was his path. And I think he realized that he, you know, missed football, love football. and wanted to be around it and finished his degree. And in the process of doing that, helped out in the spring. And then, you know, they asked him to come back for the season. Was there any type of conversation between you and him? Or you're like, yeah, I know you don't want to do the practice squad again.

There was. There was like a coach and a dad conversation. Gotta wear different hats. I'm sure that was a tough for you to go back and forth. Well, it wasn't, I think a while ago it had. I mean, I told you, there was some things that I regretted, you know, growing up. When they were growing up, there was things that I regretted the way that I hand. handled it and was, you know, borderline embarrassed with things that, you know, just not being

able to differentiate the coach and the being demanding and then dad. And so by the grace of God, got past that and had another opportunity. And so it was a good conversation. It was, hey, here's what I would say to you as a, from a coaching perspective, here's what I would say to you as a dad. And so he made his decision. and I think he's really happy about it and, you know, see where this goes.

This coaching thing goes for him. Yeah, like Tyler, dude. Oh, he don't, yeah, he's harmless. The other one. He works hard. The other one is out of his mind. He's out of his mind. He's going to catch fire here.

Plenty of ink and they're, you know, I mean, they love the ink guy. I mean, they could thank Taylor for hooking him up. Joey, right? Joe, he was in town this past week. That is right. Anytime Joey's in town, I feel like Carter's over at the house. So at first it was,

I think you were like, hey, Carter wants it to get to make. You got a guy. He comes in, right? So we kind of got them hooked up. And then eventually it became, Joey texted me and be like, hey, I'm coming into Nashville for a weekend. I'm like, what are you doing here? I think Tyler had him come to Atlanta, too, for a couple guys or something like that.

Joey's just out there doing mercenary work for other guys, ripping it up. I got a question for you. Come on. You are, you're big on culture and painting a clear vision, whether it's a weekly game plan or whether you're coming in for the first time as a head coach and kind of painting how the organization is going to be. what is the best advice you've received on building culture whether you've been to fly on the wall witnessing something or you've kind of learned in conversation with the former coach uh here's what i've learned i've learned that we can have different personalities we can't have different mentalities and and at sometimes i've what's that buddy that's a bar

i just sometimes get caught up that we don't that that people may be different than me i think i struggle with that early on and and now i've realized that if the mentality is the same, how they maybe act off the field or what their personality is or they may not be, you know, I would say that we all kind of have this similar personality, right? Pretty close. But there's a lot of people and players that are successful that don't, and I have to be okay with that if ultimately their mentality is about the culture that we want to have here. I think that's what I've learned. When you say that's what you've learned is that growing pains as a head coach or is that more earlier in your, assistant coaching. No, I mean, I think as a head, like, as a head coach, right, whether it's, you know, just players that have different personalities, but still got their job done and did it the way

that we asked them to do it, you have to be okay with, you know, that kind of what their vibe is, just walking around, let them, they got to be them. You excited to have Cardi B a couple games this year? I don't know, I thought that, I don't know. I haven't seen her yet. I I haven't. Well, I'm sure we'll double date. I'm sure we'll double date. You, Jen, Cardi's, too Friday. We'll see.

I don't know. There's a level of excitement when you heard one of your plays is dating a famous lady. Like, oh, we have our own Taylor Swift now. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I don't, you know, I don't. You see the revenue from this past year, 16 billion extra in revenue. Yeah.

And I started trending upwards in Kansas City. You know, I don't know. I mean, I'll see. I don't mean, I try to meet everybody's family. family that comes and a lot of people come. If she's here, I'll say hi. I don't see how that goes. Fair enough.

You, um, there was a big, we talk about this a lot in the podcast is 2018, Vrabs was a lot different than 2022 Vraps. What Vrable are you, are the New England Patriots players getting? Or like, because you go walk into a place that has those banners on the wall. Probably somewhere between those two. Yeah. You know, I think you just learn. And again, you're just trying to set things.

things and make sure that, again, there's an individual role that the player is trying to create, and then there's the idea of building a team. And I have to try to combine those two, right? Do you evaluate that on culture, though? Like, if you walked in the Titans facility, and the culture was very, like, all over the place, very sporadic. We didn't really have an identity of who we were. When you walked into here, was there, like, did you get the same sense of, like, culture? I mean, again, I needed to, I felt like it was important to make sure, that all those systems and the programs and everybody around the players was sound, right? That there was a structure there that the support systems was sound and cleaned up.

And then we focused on the players, you know, because the players aren't around in February, everybody's gone. So it's like operations and video and equipment and training and player engagement, all these things that were set up that I wanted the players when they came back, that they were, you know, They liked what they saw. They believed in the program that we were building, and then now we're focused on the football side of it. When you're going and you get the call and you're like,

I'm going to be the head coach of the New England Patriots, were you essentially like Ron Bergeny getting the band back together when you went and got Stretch and Frank and all the boys? Popping up, rolled over. Yeah. Rolling over. Yeah. Calling stretch, like, hey, you get it.

And I was, you know, some of those guys you can get. Some of them you can't. Some guys are under contract. but, again, those people are important to me, and I hope, to the players. We had, they were part of our success and certainly, you know, stretches. He already's had a feature article in the Boston Globe. I heard. There's another one coming down the pipe, I heard.

Almost stretch. He's getting big, huh? He is. He's starting to feel himself a little bit in that office right next to years. He's looking for a window. He's getting a window. We're building. He got a window next door.

That article came out. It is. Those are his demands. But no, he's, you know, how important stretch is. It's the best. You know, Frank and Ryan and all the assistant coaches we were able to get Big T. Hoss. Hoss.

I think Hoss does a fantastic job. The O-Line room has got three good coaches in there. So just trying to give the players everything that they need. And, you know, we're big on connection. And we think that's important. And hopefully we can continue to do that. How about Bob Spillane? Bobby.

Getting another stint with Bob Spillane, him being undrafted, not making the titles at first. I told him the other day, I was like, I said, after you knocked the shit out of Derek, I said, if you, you stop hitting? He's like, what do you tell you? He gets serious. Remember when he smoked Derek?

Smoked him, bro. And so then I was like, after you smoked Derek, I said, you haven't hit anybody since then. He's like, what do you talk? And I was like, dude, I said, you're too easy, man. Just relax. I was just calm down. He's like, you try to get my blood pressure up all the time.

Yeah. No, but that's been awesome to see. He signed what, like a $33 million deal? Yeah, I mean, everybody's got their own journey to the National Football League. I know you've used that on the meetings. Yeah, we don't care how you got here. All we care about is what you do when you're here. I cut your ass back in 2018. Bobby, under, he was a rookie mini camp tryout. Yeah. Crazy. And those are like, you're doing those as like favors. Like, get the guy a hat and a t-shirt and send him on his way. And now here he is. Just came in doing his thing.

I know. I'm signing a contract. Got Harold. Who was you? You got Jack, Dr. Gibbons? Dr. Gibby. Yeah.

Which crazy now. We have a Gibson and a Gibbons. We have Antonio Gibson. So it's Gibby and Dr. Gibby. He said, one didn't go to, Jack's got the doctor. You got every answer in the book that guy. You, um, every year around this time, you pop up a film, the shit that gets you beat film

from the year prior. What are like three or four key plays you saw on last season? that you pull up in the screen, you're like, guys, this is the shit that gets you beat. Not being able to take advantage of bad football, right? Two-minute execution, those are big ones, guys throwing the ball to the official, you know, celebrating after a gain as the clock's ticking and you're 30 yards from field goal range. Ball security, right, all those things. I mean, it's the same stuff.

Yeah, it's the same. It's the same stuff. Just try to build an identity around. our effort in a way that we finish. You know, I think Taylor will remember it's hard to finish when you're looking back for the ball or you're directing traffic and all those things we talk about.

Absolutely. But taking care of football, right? Being able to take care of football, I still think fundamentals are important. I think technique's important. Offensive lines, a technical position. You know, and then, again, whether it's don't do dumb shit to hurt the team

or a softer, gentler version is making great decisions on and off the field. I don't know. We had some opportunities to have a scrimmage on Friday. Guys got excited, you know, taunting, free 15 yards, pointing in somebody's face, you know, throwing the guns up, all that stuff, just things that, you know, it would just, it's hard to be that good for all that stuff to not matter. That stuff has to matter. And we'll get there.

I'm confident that we will. There's always some good Friday tape. Yeah, we're not there yet. We're so far from Friday tape just because, you know, we're at the ground floor. Yeah. You know, we'll break out the first one. We did have a good meeting. We split the teams up.

We had a draft. And we put together like a draft reveal, right, for this scrimmage on Friday night. We had like a draft reveal. So we split the coaches up, had two separate head coaches. They drafted. Stretch and I were like the commissioners of the draft. And then they had,

we put all these funny pictures of these guys from high school and all this other stuff. And I was like Johnny Carson going through like on the reveal and they had the draft music. And I mean, the guys had fun. Like some, remember when you didn't know if I was like joking or not joking?

So I would be like, you can laugh. For sure. Yeah. We're still at that stage. We're still there where I'm like, Like, if it's funny, laugh. And I mean, I kind of go back and forth.

And they're not sure when I go to the joke. So I let it loose the other day. A lot of laughs. And it was, it was needed. Well, because you'll be caught in the middle of a, you're breaking down film and team meetings and you're roasting. And it's like, you know, you're like holding in your laughter because like, oh, this is a serious moment.

Then when you throw a joke, it's like. Yeah, then laugh, right? Hey, where are we at? Are we allowed to do this now? Is it? Because you will. You do like to. flip on a dime.

You'll sit there and you'll head on a swim. Right, right. You'd be like, Taylor, what are we doing here? We pay you how much? I'm like, this is awful. You're terrible. You're terrible. I didn't say you're awful or terrible.

I'm paraphrasing. And you'll be like saying all these things. You'll be like doing your podcast with your boy Will. Am I right, Will? I don't know. I don't like that just stray here. Yeah. What are we doing?

So you get it's a, it's a process. It's a process. Yeah. How many shows are you guys traveling a lot? Oh, yeah. Where were you before this? We had some time off. What was our last thing?

We knocked out tight-in-in-you at the last week of June. Yeah. And so then I went to Canada. You guys were basically the ball boys for that thing, weren't you? I saw you, like, run around. Yeah. Whatever they needed water. I know.

No job too big, no job too small. Yeah. What's all? I mean, it just looked like, I mean, every clip you guys were there, like with water, towels. It was hot. We were there to serve, man. I looked like it. You were serving.

We're giving back to the youth. Ball washing. You said Taylor, so it's going to be there? Yeah, we can hang out. We can hang out for sure. We can hang out for sure. We can't. Sure, we'll go.

Our cameras are there? Okay, good. Can we bring our guys? Yeah. And then what other teams? You've been to any other teams? This is the first time. You're our first one.

Then we got. Made in voyage, huh? This is it. Virgin territory. Here we are. He was always. Once you got hired, it was circled. We got to get out.

It's funny. Like, I don't hear that. You guys. back channel. Go back up. Like all you have to do is just text daddy. I'll text you back whether you guys can come. That's the problem.

We ain't trying to get these jokes. But we met Victoria out at the draft. We texted or we met Victoria out at the draft. She was awesome. Veronica. Oh, Veronica. I'm so sorry. That was.

Hey, it's all. Hey, you're going to muscle through that. But we met them at the draft and they were really excited. They were obviously seemed like you may have been talking about seeing some nice things. So we were like, yeah, we can't wait. I showed that clip where we'll, you showed them. them the clip that I sent about the cause fumble on the goal line.

Oh yeah. I told them about it. I didn't run a meeting and show them. I wanted to, but you showed the team? No, I didn't show the team. No. You showed any man reaches? Yeah.

Yeah. Man reaches from like, I don't know, like 18, 19. We had a pods drill in there. Yeah? Oh, probably not good then, yeah. Oh, you know what? It showed the fit drill and you got overextended and you got jerked. Remember the fit drill, the rock set?

Which can I be honest with you now that we're on the other side? Yeah. I think that's a dumb drill. I don't. I think the past is good, right? Because again, you're staying level, like, I'm never in this position. I didn't mean to stay level. No, no, I'm talking about not on the, not on the cutoff. No, no, no. On like just the rock set, right? Where we snap out. Also, also a dumb drill. Well, again, because you got overextended and then got jerked. It wasn't a dumb drill, it was bad technique.

Because if you and I are both going at each other, we're going and we're fitting and then we're setting, but they already know what's happening. And they know as soon as I said. Right, but I didn't say get overextended. and get your shoulders out over. There's a technique involved. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news,

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but yeah. You were kind of out over your skis. But you did show, did you show any like man reaches? Yeah, I did. I mean, I think we showed the pot. You could do this.

You did, yeah. Couple pools out on the corner. You had a little bit. Couple toss crows. I was like, his highlights were like talking shit to a cornerback that was 35 years old. Run it again.

Teller, we can only run so many toss cracks again. I don't know how you get on the corner. Sorry. I don't know how you get on the corner. truck truck we can only get you on the taxi Uber can have to block the end a couple times No no no let's not do that let's not do that lift yeah let all I loved it perimeter playing man It was just fun to kind of be out there feeling like an athlete for a little bit it was nice

What have you what have you seen from when remember the the Tisambrello four eye cut off I was like this is how we're supposed to do it I should everybody actually great on the four eye I know great on the four eyes so we're showing some of that We showed you on the backside. Thank you. Getting vertical. You know. Cincinnati stretch cut behind you. All right.

Good. Yeah. Don't worry. You know, you just don't call you and tell you every time. You just hope you made enough of interest. We showed Will Slice in the Seven. Oh.

That was, Clinic tape. You talking about a O. Clinic tape. He didn't finish. He's got to catch the ball. Can you explain Slicing the Seven real quick for the viewers that are sitting here? Just transitioning out.

We were mugged up. We were mugged up too. We were down to the line of scrimmage. And they had, you know, it was double, double near a gun. or a weak side B. Week B. And running back went flat,

so you just know Eertz is about to run a seven route. We're an O.T. We're trying to win this game. Third down. And around the sticks, once I saw the flat route, I'm like, oh, I'm going to slice up under. So I'm inside.

I'm trying to go through the low hip to slice underneath the tight end. Slice it. Ball hits me in the hands. I drop it. However, third down, we're off the field. We go down. Corey Davis catches a touchdown.

We all celebrate in the corner. For the boys. For the boys. Yeah, for the boys. That was crazy. Yeah. That game was nuts. What you need to do, Mitch, on that clip is you need to have it on Mike's face as he's talking

because you could just see the smile. Will's explaining the entire. Proud. Yeah, proud. Very proud. But we had to, you've heard a story of his recruiting trip, right? We had breakfast at the hotel and then we basically did the deal. I was thinking about, you know, we basically negotiated that contract over breakfast, me and you.

He just had the same agent, right? Yeah. Yeah. It just wasn't a very big contract. Hey, stay strong. The most I had in my career, though. Yeah. Yeah.

That was bag season. You thought you were throwing out nickels. He was picking up dollars. But then they drafted Rashon in the first round. I'm sitting at a bar in Germantown. I'm like, fuck me. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know what time it is. Going back to the draft. Yep. And I'm sure I'll get a very... Probably. Yeah. I'll get the answer we're probably all expecting to get when the AJ Brown trade happened.

Yeah. And you see the video, you see you stand. I mean, listen, that is... But also two days before that, you're like, as long as on the head coach of this team, Major Brown will be a wide receiver time. Well, I didn't want to, obviously, nobody wanted to have him walk out of there.

You know, I mean, the contractual terms weren't going to, you know, it just, it didn't work out. And it's disappointing. The thing that I am most proud of is just still the relationship with AJ and players that I've coached, whether it be you guys or other players that, you know, continue to text or check in on. or just think about when they're in the summer

or what they're doing or their families or you see that they're having kids. Like I think that's important and I'm glad that that's still something that happens, right? That there's still some sort of relationship after, you know, after coaching them. Allegedly, there's some footage out there of, Will Campbell.

You getting put on your back. from old Will Campbell. Are there those? I mean, I'm almost 50. I'll be 50 in, I don't know, 12 days, 10 days. Did you expect that though? No, I just, you know what I mean? It was a four eye, right?

I was going into four eye and it was a backside cutoff and he got going and I caught my foot. I didn't get my second step in the ground. What am I going to do? I'll back up. Like, we all get knocked down. You probably loved it too. Did you mean, I didn't say that I loved it.

I just was like, that was a good rap, but I just, you know. Give him a pat. Yeah, me just get back on the line. let's go again. I mean, you got to get one back. You're like, yeah,

try to you. You know, you were an extra hard on that next one. Oh, yeah. You think you get to. I mean,

it happens. You know, I mean, it's not like, you know, you know, you know, he was more of three

that next time. It's not, we got to shade it in a little bit. Pad back. Yeah. It's not, it's not like, you know,

I was fine. I popped back up. Everybody else thought, you know what I mean? I thought it was a bigger deal than I did. You're seeing a lesser man would have stayed down.

I mean, he'd have never done that to me. Yeah, you're right. I mean, it was a good, it was a good block. He got into it, got the back hand, then the sternum, and I didn't get my second step on the ground, and I asked over tea cattle. Yeah, it was like six, seven yards. It was awesome to see.

We need that clip. Have you seen it? He showed it to us, but he... Will showed you a clip? Hold on. Somebody did. You're snitching, he showed you the clip. No, no, we haven't seen anything.

He has it on his phone. We haven't seen anything. me the clip. J. Yeah, JP. He was probably all gassed up. I'll get him back. Don't worry. That's what I'm afraid of.

Hey, he was, hey, where's it? Will. He was gasped. He was pumped. Yeah, he's like, hey, boys, once I get done with this little two-minute drill, I'm sorry, I'm laying it all out there, Willie. Well, he's like, once I get down,

I got to show you guys a clip that I think you'll enjoy. Yeah, I bet. And he had me over there. I was like, I know. He started to walk out and we're like, hey, you said you had a clip for us. He was like, oh, yeah. I'm like, I don't come over. No.

Era, we just do interviews. How are you? Trying to get it out, man. Come in. They laid it on the line for me. I got to go on the show. You got to come on the show. Yeah.

What's up? I'm good to see you, man. How fun. I just wanted to bust ball. No, I'm not to you. Oh, you don't want to. Oh, okay. We only have it for her.

I think we. Stacey's got the time limit. It's time. How about, so, Victoria at the time? We have, uh, Veronica. Veronica. Come on.

I got local media. Budlight. You know how everybody, anybody would do anything for a bud light, an ice cold bud light. What would Coach Vrable? No free shout-outs. What would Coach Brable do anything for? Can't say family.

Can't say family? I mean, obviously another banner up there. Like, that's... What would you do for that banner? We've discussed this already. I know. Yeah, but... But what else?

else? What else would I do? Yeah, for the banner. I'm going to work every day. I'm at cutting off any more appendages, you know what I mean? Like that's why we're doing this, you know, other than to provide for our families, it's to win championships. Like, you guys know this spiel?

We've been through this. You guys are trained. You guys are trained rats. Would you really cut it on? He already said on the second one, he's, we asked. Yeah, we're done with that. Well, yeah, because we went to the AFC championship. Stacy said that's it.

Boys, I want an honest evaluation of practice. What? I got to go. I got to work. Can I tell you something? I want an honest evaluation of practice. Obviously. And if I'm missing anything, let me know.

Let you know. Obviously, you got to create the evidence and build the legacy and everything else. But I'm legitimately so juiced that you were the head coach of the Patriots just because you're a hell of a player at Ohio State. You're a hell of a player in the league with the three banners and the three Super Bowls. And I hope, I hope, hang on, hang on. This one's for Jen, too. I hope you take time to just have.

perspective of how fucking cool it is. Well, I appreciate that. I will try to stop and smell the roses along the way. I hope you guys come back for a game. Promise? Yes, promise. On sideline. Can I get a, can I get a headset?

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Welcome the bus with the boys. Oh, Jesus. Come on. Start again. Start again. You know what? Keep it where to tap. You set him up.

You set it up. You set it up. Do you slap his leg? What's going on? How you doing? Hanging in there. Yeah? Oh, dude, we're doing great.

Give me Josh Allen vibes already off the top. I'll be honest with you. You got a nice little... He's a heck of a player. He's a heck of a player. He's a heck of a player. Give me the team keys when you're talking to the media. Talking to the media?

Yeah, Pervrable. Team keys. Yeah. Yeah. Speak for myself. Yep. No talking about injuries. That's correct.

No talking about expectations. Right? No talk about scheme. Don't talk about scheme. Is there another one? You're on it. You seem like there was one more. I do feel like there's one more.

I do feel like that was all of them. No comparisons. No comparisons. It's the same. It's kind of expectation of comparisons. Yeah, no comparisons. Same as when you all played? What's that?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you see yourself a lot in Josh Allen? Do you guys think you're very similar football players? Both mobile, tall, handsome, white quarterbacks? You know, he's the MVP. I think the comparisons are, I got a lot of work to do, you know, with kind of even giving the same, you know, stratosphere or atmosphere as Josh. So luckily, he's in the division.

So we got some good matchups looking forward to, but really comparisons. I'm just trying to be myself. And, hey, at the end of the day, if some people think that, I mean, that's a lot of, you know, respect for him. But I've got a lot of work to do for that. Let's pivot real quick on the sports, though. I apologize for interrupting you, Will. You and Josh Allen one-on-one pickup basketball who's winning that game. I take myself as a hooping.

Yeah? In hoops for sure. Do you think Josh Allen, the night before the draft, was in a YMCA, playing pickup basketball? Pat, did Pat tell you that? We have our sources. Time-out, time-out. What are we talking about?

So, Drake, the day, it was in Detroit, correct? Yeah, in Detroit. The day before he gets drafted, first-round pick by the New England Patriots, he's at an indoor gym at a YMCA playing pickup basketball with a bunch of Jen Pop just trying to get work in. What was your stats?

What was your numbers? My brothers were in there so we had some good competition but just get the nerves and you're going, you know. You and the brothers you get picked. I don't know if we'll,

you know, kind of being at the draft being out. I'm not sure. You get nervous. You get nervous. Whether you're there where the draft's happening or you're sitting at home,

it doesn't matter. Yeah, I mean, I was nervous. I had nerds for three days. Let me ask you something. Disappointment. Was there a piece of you ever throughout, like, when you were going to the draft process of day one hit, you're like, what if, though? 100%. I want to say Bill Belchick got some projected guy.

He was like in the lower rounds, and he drafted him in the second round. And on the first night, the Chargers called me being like, I kind of forget what the hell the conversation went, but I'm like, maybe I'm a day two guy. No shit. Then they drafted Man Taiio. Damn. Manta had. He was a great player. I played longer, but he's a great player.

Yeah, he had to build, though. Yeah, he had to build on him. Sturdy. Were you surprised at the Patriots drafted you? I think I was just pumped. You know, kind of the feelings. You just want to get drafted somewhere. So I was really just pumped.

I think I knew there was a chance, possibly here. What a great legacy of this place has been. And hopefully we're trying to get back to that. What's the first several months been like with Coach Rabel? Yeah, it's been awesome. I mean, y'all know. It's hostile now. Oh, we know.

It's awesome. It's hostile now. You got to bring it. and leave your egos at the door. I'm sure y'all, I'm sure you check y'all a few times with personalities of y'all too. But I think, you know,

we watch old film with Big Taylor was in there, watching a pod drill. We were watching you over there. How was he doing? How'd I do? How'd I do in the pod? I don't know. I think you may got hurt or something.

Who knows? Oh, damn! You know, and when Brave was answering the question talking about how he had to drill up of you and pos and you got over leverage, I'm thinking to myself, you know, Ray was just loving the fact that he could kind of just bodybag you

in front of some other. And the fact that it's like, that's not for anybody else. Like I know five people on this football team. That was for raves and stretch. Yeah. And Haas. Yeah. Kind of laugh.

Be like, look at that idiot right there. No, but I saw the first pitch, dude. Come on. Oh, God. I saw it. Yeah. Bro, you kind of looked like good forms. He's like a little bit of Randy Johnson and then.

Just let it go a little too early. It was kind of, yeah, I had to bring my show. You know, redemption's coming. Really? I don't know if we can say the date yet, but it is this month. I'll be catching redemption. Where was that? What game was that at?

The redemption? No, the game that you just threw. Oh, that was in St. Louis. In St. Louis. And buddy, I'll tell you this. How old nerves? Free nerves? No.

I was like, I'm about to rip this thing. I'm about to throw this thing high 60s. Yeah. Yeah? Which was good for me. And I walked out there, buddy was standing behind the mountain. I go, just so you know, I'm going to rip this thing. He was like, didn't even say a word.

And then that happened. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, I'm still in disbelief. And I think I'm, like, kind of getting the yips now, too. Like, I'll go play catch. And I'll put a couple in Will's chest. And then there'll be one. Oh, buddy, I practice.

I make will every day. Really? I get to the shop. We do work. And then I'm like, come play catch with me. That's really bad. So we'll see. We'll see.

Have you thrown at first pitch before? No, I thought about throwing a curbed ball or something one time. You've thrown at a first pitch? Yeah, I haven't thrown one. But if I did, I'd throw a curveball or something. You're a baseball guy growing up? Yeah, baseball guy. You have a whole family of them.

You got a bunch. I saw one story where it was like, what was it, People Magazine, where your mom would make like 36 eggs for you guys and would just be a war? We got some big dudes, some big fellows rolling around. So a bunch of hooligans. Who's the most athletic in your family, you think? I'm probably my mom. I'm speaking for my mom.

You know dad's punching air right now. My dad's, he's old and fat now. You give it to yourself over the other brothers? Yeah, yeah. They'd say the same. They would? Yeah, they know what's up. Or are they just pounding the steering wheel right now as they listen?

No. No, my brother's definitely going to tune in. My brother's a big fan of the busing with the boys. Let's go. Pat were playing the Italians. I think was Collins there? Was Pat Collins there? Yeah.

He was there. We came down just to go meet his brother, just like because he was that big of a fan of us. And I was like, yeah, I'll go down there for sure, absolutely. And we met the night that night before at the Peg Lake Porker. Yeah. I got Troy Nunes. Exactly. Yeah.

Bring it back to Vrabs. I need a pet peeve. What pisses you off about Mike Vrable? Or how about this? Instead of what pisses you off about Coach Vrable, what would piss Coach Vrable off about you? Or what would be a pet peeve of raves that he has of you? not celebrating after we score. They did go viral, didn't it?

Yeah, he just, which I agree. I mean, it's hard to get in the end zone. Yeah. I think you saw the clip. We didn't score enough of them last year. So just getting excited. I think there's so much mental game going on in the game, you know, within practice playing QB.

So just getting excited when you do something good. That's tough, you know. I think I need to do a better job of that. Well, it goes through your brain when you score it first time. It's hard to simulate, you know, in practice when it's actually a real touchdown in the game. You know, it's easier to run down there with the boys. But, you know, the O-line's got. got to run down there like, oh, I got to run 15 yards back.

Chuck along. Yeah, it's tough for those guys. Yeah, cruising over there. Exactly. Celebrating after touchdowns. Yeah. I saw you throw a few touchdowns today in the red zone. Try to.

And I didn't see you run into the end zone and celebrate. Yeah. So is that a coachability thing or is that just, hey, this is not a team period? No, I think it was one-on-one. Yeah, it was one-on-one. Seven-on-seven. I think still get some excitement for sure. What were the things that y'all did back in the day he got mad at?

Oh, shit. Everybody got mad at with me? Yeah, probably just being on social media. Yeah. Yeah, he'd bring up posts every now and then. He put up in team meeting. Yeah. There was one time where it was like, Darren Bates was injured,

and so he was sitting out of walkthrough. And in my brain, he was just getting one over. I'm like, oh, you're just wanting to chill. Like, you ain't in that bad of shape. So I bought this neck brace on Amazon, and then I took a video because he had like the yellow jersey on. I'm telling him, hey, throw this on, throw this on. the neck brace and we're kind of busting his balls in the locker room and i'm videoing it

i put it up on social and he texts him me later that night and he's that you think this was smart and dude fear just filled the entire part of my body as i'm sitting there looking on how i should respond back to variable kind of like is he kind of messing with me should i like send a joke back because we all know he's playing like it's all good and uh he put it up in the team meeting the next day my asshole was was tight my assail was tight you walk in that team meeting room it's really the first one when you come back for OTAs because everyone's kind of done their thing maybe you post something in January he knows

John Stryker knows and he will show Mike Rable Oh, Stretch is on it He's on it, dude He is dialed in I think Yeah, he's the op I don't think you understand How much of a win it is

For you guys to have Stretch on this team just yet Like you guys will realize How big of a win it is to have But he's definitely the op I had a time Bill O'Brien got fired from Houston And I was commenting on how I was like fired up about him getting fired

and Braves called me and chewed me out for like five minutes about how disrespectful that is and I don't know Bill and all this stuff and that was walking in the next day was very difficult. It was scary. But I saw him the next day and he like pat me on the ass and walked down the hallway.

So he's kind of always doing this and he just don't really know what to do. He bullies you until he knows you're broken a little bit. Yeah, yeah. And kind of all stepping on egg, walking on eggshells. And then that's when he buddies you up and he's like, why don't you laugh? It's a joke.

And it's like, Christ, I don't know. He was sitting here with us before y'all's practice being like, you know how it is. They don't know that I'm joking yet and stuff like that. So, you know, I'll tell him, hey, if it's funny, you can laugh in the team meeting room. I'm thinking, we're still there. We've known you since 2018. We're still like kind of when he walks in room, like, what kind of day are we have? That's how Brave likes it, man.

I saw the clip of you y'all about a fight in the bus. You like your chances, do you think? Against Raib? Yeah. I don't know. I got too much respect to think that I could take him. I saw it kind of start off as a friendly gesture. Yeah.

and then he's got a little real and it's kind of like he's just got the power dynamic of father's son, you know what I mean? It's like, hey, Will, do you think you can whoop your old man? It's like you just don't, you don't really go there mentally. And then when he bokes up, it's kind of like, he's a long, he's a specimen. Hands to scratch his knees a little bit.

You're saying, you're saying, baby, is your daddy right now? I'm saying he's got, that's the type of respect that I have for him as a human being. As a father. Yeah, yeah. Like, I see him as like a father figure. Yeah. Yeah. We, you know, we swap texts in the offseason. He checks on the family.

I mean he's like a mentor mine I love that so I just appreciate him yeah you know what I mean so I would say y'all like you know hey don't get sensitive on me braves like like I would you say y'all ship is different with raves between the two of you he likes will a lot more than me yeah he like he I think he definitely views me as like he coached me really hard when he got there and I was like he'll lighten up eventually and it never really happened and then I like got cut eventually and it's kind just not stopped. Will was like, they brought Will in. He was doing the Corps 4.

He was like light and did the Vrabel thing and that went over really well. And then once Will was out of the building, Brable was like, that's my guy. And I'm Will's buddy. But that Will is Braves friend. Does that make sense? Taylor was an asset that they needed to produce

at the highest level at all times. So when he get injured, I'm sure that kind of plays into the psyche of what his view was of the world like I'm an asset but I'm more of an asset like uh you know like one of those uh what was a jester you know first off gestures gestures gestures gestures uh the people that would entertain the king what's the animal that you keep they just like give you good vibes are there for you golden retriever no support emotional sport yeah yeah like my asset ability was like being the support

animal in the locker room yeah yeah and we'll you know just will it was a locker room guy so raves would always be like, we're going to hold our high, or our best players to the highest standard or whatever. That's like his phrase. He always says. And he would call me in his office, say, hey, what's up, Braves? I'm trying to be buddies. Yeah. Always trying to be buddies.

No. He'd be like, come in here real quick. He'd pull up some film. We just sit in silence for a little bit while I play some, a couple plays of me like not doing well. He goes, we hold our best players to the highest standard, correct? Yes, sir. Is that the highest standard? No.

All right. I need you to play better next week. Yeah, okay. And there'll be games too. I walk away from games, I'd like, bro, that was a game. I kind of have myself a little. You know, I think of like four or five plays

if I really put that guy in the dirt. I was good in protection, blah, blah. I felt good about it. And as I'm like truly feeling good about myself, I'm getting a text from Braves, be like, need you to be better next week. And it was always, it was always that. Will, I would sit over and watch Will and Braves be like,

how the fuck do I get to that? I just had to get a couple tackles on special teams. Yeah. Or slice of seven. Yeah, slice of seven. Once a game or something like that. Because when he sat here, I was like, hey man, you're showing some man reaches?

He's like, I showed a pod's real. Should you're getting over extension on a play action. There's some good clips. Just killing me, man. But that's kind of the difference in dynamic. But this is about this podcast. Yeah, yeah. You're doing very well and asking questions about us.

Now we're getting the five fingers. Yeah, I'll spend more time with them than I have. Take us through the process last year being thrown into the fire. Because on the outside, it seemed like when you got drafted, you were going to be somebody who was kind of like maybe groomed in on the sideline throughout the season. Then the season was going the way it was. You had Coach Mayo.

he was in his first year. Then you kind of get thrusts and thrown into the fire. Was that something that you expected? Or what was the learning curve as that decision was made? No, I think, you know, we had the Texans here at home. So it was a good, you know, in front of home crowd. You get thrown to the fire. I think it's something that you're like, man, let's see what I got.

I think it's, you go out there and you see DeNeil Hunter, Will Anderson, you know, we go out there in the first drive, and you're like, all right, this is the NFL, you know what I'm saying? Some specimens over there. Specimens. Especially a hunter, dude. Yeah, good guys. He was like a robot.

So I think, you know, from there, I think just ultimate confidence. I think that's what I think you kind of appreciate yourself. You do all that practice, do all this training camp, go out there and just a lot of bullets, see what you got. And, you know, I think, you know, the biggest thing is these guys, and we still played hard. You know, I think we were in some close games and, you know, season didn't go the way we wanted, but these guys fought hard. I think especially those guys up front, they fought for me hard. And, you know, the least I do was get back and go out there and compete and, you know, leave it all out there. So that's my approach to it and it's not going to change.

Was there ever a moment of discouragement during your rookie year? Like as you guys are out there and you're performing, whether up to your standard or not, you guys are losing close games? You know, once you really hit, I think kind of the, you know, 10 losses in the season, you know, it's tough. You got there and you're out there playing. You probably know in the back of your mind you're not going to make the playoffs. You're out there playing a, you know, a gruesome game and you're out there just battling.

And I think that's really what you kind of find in these guys. who can I really go to war with? And I think that's what, you know, I was trying to approach it myself. Like these guys are gonna see me. Am I still competing hard? And, you know, scrambling around and trying to make plays,

or just gonna throw it in the dirt and keep back up and punt. And so I think that's kind of, is what I kind of used last year as. You obviously wanna, you know, win more games this year and that's our plan. So I think everybody feels good now. So it's going into, you know, week one

to see when the real bullets go. Time to remember that rookie wall when you're sitting there in the middle of November, Possibly like walking into December. You know you're out of the playoffs. Like you say you're, you know, 10 losses. You're probably not going to pick the playoffs. Like you will not make the playoffs with 10 losses.

And you see these guys, you know, you're 21 years old. You got these guys that are in their 30s. They kind of know. So you see guys kind of talking about Cabo San Lucas all of a sudden. I'm going to go over here. What are we doing for a vacation? Like, what was that like from you from like just going from college to NFL? No doubt.

It's different. I think even the first thing I know is these guys got families. You know, it's not the locker room in college where you're hanging out. and going back to someone's place and watching football. Yeah, I think stuff like that. It's more like your families and you leave here. And like you said, that rookie wall kind of after the bowl season, you go straight to training and then you go straight to the draft prep.

So it's a long year, long years of these rookies. That's what I'm telling these guys in our team, Will Campbell and those guys, it's a long year. And I think from there you give up here to Boston there, been up here in the north and you get out of meetings at 5 o'clock. And next thing you know, it's dark outside and it's 15 degrees. I think that's a whole different element of the morbidness up here of the winners. So I think that's really right around your teammates.

And when you are in the building, try to make it as enjoyable as you can. And I think definitely you see guys, like you said, not checking out, but knowing kind of what's in the end and kind of the light that in the tunnel is not, you know, looking, you know, too bright. I think you can see that in the NFL, which is, you know, credit them. You guys want to, you know, have longevity in the years and, you know, credit their bodies. And, you know, you can see injuries is a big part. of the game. So there's two sides to it, but hopefully it's that situation.

Yeah. When you got a like your routine in your first year and you hit the wall and everything like that, what are some changes you're making for yourself and your in your daily routine during the football season? Yeah, I think that's a great question. You know, I think Jacoby Rosset was there's someone great for me to learn from, you know, a veteran this league played in a bunch of different offenses. He's the man, you know, just hanging out outside. We used to go to dinner. I think it's different. I got my wife up here now in the season, so it would be different having her up here. but really just it's about ball, I think trying to change,

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Back to this episode. Robert Spillane. Let's give him a round of applause, huh? Come on. I appreciate you guys having me out. Thank you. Absolutely. Dude. Welcome to Bustin with the boys. I am personally fired up. know Taylor's fired up as well, but just as an undrafted linebacker, you were a rookie

mini-camp tryout, like the gutter, the gutter of gutters. Brable was kind of saying, too, he's like the media camp trial guys, like, you just have them there to be bodies for the people you bring in, the draft picks you bring in, the other preferred undrafted free just that you bring in, you weren't one of those. You got what, an offer coming out. Where did you go to college? To Western Michigan. To Western Michigan, bro. And now, all the way to just signing a three-year, $33 million deal to be with the Patriots,

a second stint with Coach Vrable, we are fucking proud of you, bro. Stoked. Definitely come a long way. It hasn't been easy. A lot of trials and tribulations. You know, when you start as an undrafted player, they look at you as an undrafted player for the remainder of your career. So I still have that chip on my shoulder.

So every day I go out there, I tell myself, you're undrafted. You know, it's time to go earn it. When did you think you had, obviously you could tell you love ball. And we tell the story, we fill the story in the podcast multiple times of us sitting after, I think it was Pittsburgh. He had an interception. He had like seven, eight, maybe even ten tackles. And you're kind of walking by and we're like chopping it up in the corner, a little,

we're a little banged up. And I'm like, hey, man, kind of did your thing out there. And you kind of get a little nervous. You're like, I love football. And you kind of just kept it moving. And it's like, we joked and laughed about it. But, like, brother, those are the guys that make it. The dudes that sit there and they're like, you have to truly love playing this game

to be put in the position you were in the NFL and now to be sitting where you are now. But at what point was it that rookie minicamp? Was it after your first year? When were you like, oh, I think I can actually play in the NFL? I think our first practice as a team when I got the veterans in there after rookie minicamp and I saw what the NFL was, I knew I had a chance to make it. I had that internal confidence right away that I am undrafted. I'm the ninth man on the roster, the 90th overall, the ninth in the linebacker core.

And I feel like I can make myself good enough to be good in this league one day. But you get cut. Then you go on practice squad. You get cut, I believe in October, if I remember right. And then you end up signing with Pittsburgh in the next February, like after the season is over. So you're, you know, technically the saying is you're on your couch for the rest of the season. Did doubt ever creep in your mind? Make sure you hear the mic that will close to your face. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard. When you get cut and you spend four months at home, you go out to

L.A. for a tryout. They send you home without giving you a call back. You go out to Denver for a tryout. They send you home without getting a call back. Go out to Pittsburgh for a tryout. And just as we're walking on the field with six inside linebackers, they sign one of them. They take one of them upstairs and say we're going to sign you in front of everybody so i go out for the try out i'd leave without a call i in turn decided to give them a call back and give them a piece of my mind and say why the fuck did you bring me out here what what was the fucking point of bringing me out here if you already had your mind made up and it was that energy that fire that they saw in me and two days later they gave me an opportunity what are they saying on the phone so you call them

go hey patched me into mike tomlin it wasn't mike tomlin it was uh Kevin Colbert's son, one of the head scouts that invited me to the tryout originally. He called me, or I called him after the tryout saying, what was the point of you bringing out here? We just talked on the phone before I got out here. You wanted to give me an opportunity. And I felt like that's bullshit. You guys signed a guy without even giving me a shot. And he just, oh, yeah, we're going to, we're still looking at you.

We're still looking at you. I'm like, yeah, bullshit, whatever. Didn't expect to hear anything back from them. Two days later, they gave me. me an opportunity to come in for a 90-man roster spot and kind of worked my way through practice squad through special teams and then got my opportunity to play defense when Devin Bush went on. That when you decided to call them and give them a peace of your mind, is it like your

frustration was at an all-time high when you're going out and doing tryouts? Because doubt being the wrong word, more of like discouraged that you're putting in all this work, you're persevering, you're staying resilient, you believe in yourself, that it just get to a point to where it's like, I got to figure out why this isn't happening. Yeah, without a doubt, I wanted answers. I wanted, I felt like I was wronged. I felt like I had the ability and the capabilities to one day be a successful player in this league. So it really bothered me that I wasn't getting that opportunity. And I honestly believe if I didn't have that chip on my shoulder, I wouldn't be here today. Yeah. When you, when you go to the Steelers, you get on the 90-man roster,

put the dark visor on, by the way. That was a nice. touch. Those are very nice. Yeah. Headaches. Yeah, yeah. It's what it's all about. You go play the Titans again. And there's a goal line stand. And a lot of people, I believe there's another reporter. He's on ESPN. He talks about him and Derek Henry in the hole. He's taking Derek Henry out. Everyone always argues about it. But you actually stood Derek's ass up.

I know this respect to Derek. We love Derek on the show. But you handled business. Was that like you're coming out moment? For sure, my first career start against the team that cut me two years prior. Anytime you step on the field with King Henry, you have to give him respect and you have to bring it all. If you take a slight second of the playoff, he's scoring a touchdown. So I knew at that moment that it had to be there on the goal line with the team that cut me two years prior. All that worked up inside me and I was able to make a nice play on the goal line. You were legit Bobby Boucher out there.

I felt the excitement from everybody in the stands. My whole family took a bus from Chicago to the game. Oh, that's awesome. I had a lot of friends on the Tennessee Titans still at that point that showed me love after the game. So it was really a special moment for me. You put your face in the fan. Did you feel like as you were getting up to celebrate? I definitely lost a few years of my life.

In that moment, I definitely gave the good Lord a few years of my life. you have uh did you feel like do you a sting or anything like that yeah uh they call it a stinger but when you can't feel half your body and you're like trying to wobbly no shit i came off the field cam hayward rips me off the ground he's like oh spill sleeping get off the field so i run off the field and obviously you don't want to be wobbling coming off the field so i'm like oh my shoulder sore my shoulder and uh i guess that's all part of playing in the NFL So when you go to, as you're going through the Steelers, you get cut, you go on practice squad, you get cut again early in the year, you get brought back the next week.

Then when Devin Bush goes down with an ACL injury, you get your number calls. And then that game, I think you go on, you have a few good plays. And that next week, Tomlin's in the press conference saying that you're going to be the starter. Take us through that process and what that meant to hear knowing that Coach Tomlin and the Steelers. had that trust in you to continue to be the starter. Yeah, knowing that they had that trust in me, it was all I needed to go out there and succeed. No one I had the trust of the 10 people around me.

It's a very safe spot when you're the middle linebacker of these defenses. You've got 10 killers all around you. So it seems very chaotic and a lot going on. But for me, that's like where I feel the most calm. And having the confidence of the players and the coaches in that organization meant everything to me to go out there and succeed. How they bring the news to you? They call you in the office.

play a trick on you or anything like that? Yeah, Tomlin called me in and he said, it's time to start living like a pro. We need to get you some new outfits. We need to get you a new car. You're our starting middle linebacker, so you need to come in looking like it, playing like it.

So it was kind of a fun moment for me and something I'll never forget. Did you listen? You go get yourself and I saw something? I was going to say you get a new car? No, I didn't. And that's probably why they didn't keep me around too much longer. Now you went on, you signed a free agency with the Raiders.

Did Pittsburgh not want you back? No, they didn't. It hurts to say that, and it hurts to feel like that because you felt like you made all these great connections. You felt like you poured your heart on the line. You felt like you did everything to be a good team player. But at the end of the day, this is a business, and they don't always want you back.

And it hurts, and it hurts, and it adds to that chip on the shoulder, but that's all I could do at that point was go out to Vegas, my one opportunity, no one else was calling. and go out there and ball. Who else was in the conversation when you were negotiating as a free agent ended up with the Raiders? It was the Raiders. It was just the Raiders.

So when you were going into free agency, what were those conversations like in your exit meetings with the Steelers as you're entering free agency? Before I went into free agency, they told me, go out, test the market, see what you get. We're going to offer whatever they give you. And we want to make you a stealer. We love you.

In your brain, you're like, this is where I want to be. So I called them, oh, I got an offer from the Steelers. or from the Raiders, like, I want to come back. What's the deal? And they were like, oh, good luck, good luck, have fun. So that's how it happened. And obviously at the time you're sick, you're moving across the country. But at the same time, you're so happy because somebody believes in you.

And that's all you really need. Like to have Patrick Graham out there, to have Josh McDaniels out there, Antonio Pierce, believing in me as a player and as a person. That's what gives me confidence to go out there and do what I do best. What was it like when, so was it March when I saw you at UFC? Yeah. Yeah. And I, like, Spillane, like, walks by me.

I'm just kind of like walking and he kind of like, he's like, hey, could you see you, man? Like Desmond. He goes, I'm going to be a patriot. And it just kind of books it out of there. I was like, he's just, you just beaming. Absolutely beaming about it. When Braves calls you, were you just so fired up about the full circle moment? Was he the one that called you or the GM called you?

Yeah, they offered the deal once free agency opened. And I knew I wanted to be a patriot. I knew I wanted to get back with Coach Vrable. I knew what type of person he is, willing to lay his life on the line for his players. And it's just an organization that you want to be a part of. It's a historic organization and a new emerging team with a lot of new pieces. And it seemed like a really good opportunity for me and my family. How does it feel for you when you walk out and do a scrimmage last Friday

and you see all six of those banners standing up there in the stadium? Yeah, it's pressure. But at the end of the day, that's why we come out here. That's why we love doing what we're doing. We love when these stadiums are filled out, sold out, rocking loud and excitement. And we're going to have a lot of that this year, and I can't wait to see what Pat's Nation is all about. Your second stand in free agency, same kind of question. Like when it was coming to an end with the Raiders, like who was in the market for you before you ultimately decided on the Patriots?

Like were the Raiders wanting you back? Not really. God damn. Yeah. What are you doing that locker room? Giving it is all. Giving it is all. He's out there with Max Crosby. You're going to have to ask Max because he went on the podcast and he said, you know, he's been in the office with the GM every day in the off season.

So I don't know what happened where the love loss was there. But at the end of the day, I have this opportunity here and I'm going to do everything I can to be a good teammate here and perform for the Patriots. Were there any other teams that were fighting for you before you decided here? Yeah, there was. Are you able to... Do you want to hear about it? Yeah, yeah, bro.

So this is a podcast we do. We like talking to people. Yeah, we like telling stories. We like hearing their stories. This isn't like a professional ESB and sit down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, there was a team in the West Coast. There was a team that I had recently played for and won in the mountains.

And they all showed big interest and were excited. So Denver Chargers. Titans? Close. That's very close. Did Titans call you? It's very close, yes. And then the Rams?

Yeah, well, we'll just say that was close. That was very close. New England said and showed me that they wanted me to come out here. It was a done deal. I wanted to be here out of the four teams that were offering. I wanted to be part of the Patriots. So I'm glad that we got it done here. And I'm excited to go out and perform.

You know, Sbellane, when we're asking these questions, everything we've asked so far is harmless but he's thinking himself what's that team meeting going to look like when this podcast comes out and Braves goes Blaine we're not paying you enough

you know what you want to be here no I'm so excited and glad to be here and we got a young team a lot of free agents join the team this year so it's going to look a lot different than last year and we're just going to go out

and continue to work what do you do my best to ask a question where you just won't give a bullshit answer. Oh, no. Are they all bullshit answers? No, no, no, no.

Keep the big questions going. You got the verbalism to speak for yourself. You're in it. I mean, I don't want to fucking say something stupid. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. No doubt. I am not a trained podcaster, so. You have to play the Steelers and the Raiders,

two teams that have elite pass rushers. What are similarities and some differences you see between T.J. Watt and Max Crosby. Yeah, two of the best in the league, obviously. you can see those contracts. Those boys are living right. They are working hard. T.J. is dominant.

Both on the left side of the ball. Both have the freedom to do whatever they want on a play. You know, if you have a non-dominant edge rusher, you tell them, set the edge. If you have Max and T.J., you tell them, do whatever the hell you want, because we know you're going to make a play. So playing behind those guys has let me learn how to play behind people that like to swim gaps like to find the ball i think tj has done a great job force fumbles interceptions max has the best motor in the nfl so he is unblockable for 90 snaps out of the game which is unheard of from a

d end i love it bobby we're getting we're getting the uh the wrap-up signal but dude again so proud of you i think you are a fucking awesome example for undrafted guys being a rookie mini camp trial guy to get all the way into your third contract which is massive especially just hit the linebacker spot, man. And I wish you well this year, bro. Stay healthy. Yeah, thanks for having me out. I appreciate it.

Love you, guys. Love you too, man. Pout of you, bro. Thank you, guys. Sorry, I hope I wasn't bullshit. No, I don't know. Win it up this episode to bring you roll. You having a hard time on your commute?

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So six years ago, I played Miami. Yeah. You know, it's 95 degrees, feels like 102. But the ends of this don't get wet. Yeah. When it's like flowing through, it'll sweat up here, but the whole shirt won't get wet so I can dry my fingers. And then every training camp now, I just do it.

I love it. Yeah. So originally there was function. Now it's pure style. Yeah. Because it's like 82 outside. How crazy is it going from a place in Miami to New England? And then you're probably in this training camp and you hear one.

One guy whispered, man, it's fucking hot out here today. And you're like, yo, shut the fuck up. You have no idea. I literally, the guys was like, it was like 93 the other day. It was like, I can't. I don't know if I can go. I'm like, what are you talking about? This is like, if we got a 93 degree day in Miami, everybody was smiling ear to ear.

Like, this is simple. Yeah, it's gorgeous out of here. Yeah, it's super nice. Like, y'all haven't even changed your cleats because they're soaking water through yet. Right. You start walking up the field and your feet are a little squishy. Yeah, that's what you know. That's a hot day.

Okay, we had a hot day, boys. Yeah. How's the process been with Mike and the culture and everything here in New England? It's been good. I think one of the biggest things. And I've been kind of in that New England style system of like work and get shit done. And I love that type of shit. Like the guy who works hard gets rewarded.

But having Mike who was also played, so he understands like when he says some shit, it's like, okay, he's actually probably done it. He's done some of the shit that he's telling us to do. So it works out. So okay, cool. I can hear where he's coming from because he's. He could pull up some tape with him actually doing it. He's not just talking out his ass.

Yeah, it's grainy as hell, but he did do it for 14 years. How many times has he mentioned that he's played 14 years in the NFL and team meetings? Team meetings. I don't know. When he comes in the receiver room, it's straight to the touchdowns. It's like 10 for 10 or 12 for 12, whatever it is. Yeah, even I can do it. When he first went to the Titans, this is AJ's first year.

He put up all the receivers in their stats from the year before, and it was like, I think all of them had like maybe total 11. and then his was 12 for 12, 12 touchdowns. He's like he outpaced him. What was it until I want to say it was in the middle of the second time around that I was there like 2020? Yeah. The room finally passed him in touchdowns. Which is it was something wild like that. That was a team.

That was a team. Big for the guys in media. How big, how big, how finally do you look back on your last year with Buffalo? It seemed like you had a lot of fun. I feel like you were in the headlines a lot more. Obviously, you've talked to it. You've spoken. about your feet at length, but it seemed like you guys had a really fun locker room in Buffalo.

Yeah, for sure. I had a lot of fun. The guys are great. Anybody who's played their kind of knows, that's really all there is is ball and city loves you. And if you work hard, it like kind of turns over. And we were winning games. And when you're winning games, no matter where you're at, it's freaking great. So yeah, I had a great time there. And I was able to be barefoot and wild and all that stuff. They just embraced it. And like, people start wearing no shoes in the snow. And I was like, hey, I'm not liable for any of that shit. Yeah. You go no shoes in the snow? Yeah, on the walk in, yeah.

Walk in no matter what the temperature is, I'm going barefoot. But if it gets below 35, I'm aware. Grounding. It's just, I don't know, I think the word I guess people use would be the Pucification of America. People are so soft now. Like, bro, do something hard for once. It's not even hard to wear no shoes.

But like, if it gets below 35, I'm not an idiot. Like, I'll put shoes on. But walking into games, no matter what, I have to be barefoot. How long have you been doing this for? Walking in the game is probably three or four years. Yeah. So I got hurt seven years ago, started training barefoot, found these guys in Australia called MMT.

They trained, they showed up to Philly. I flew him out, freaking barefoot off the plane. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? Same way y'all look at me. That's how I looked at them. Started training with them. And then like three, four years ago, I was like, what's the point of the shoes? Now I just don't pack them and shit.

Other than bathrooms and airports, it's the only time I wear shoes. Really? So you obviously go into a restaurant. They're like, excuse me, sir. If I'm by myself like this. And if they kick me out, so be it. But if I'm with the group, I'm going to wear shoes. I'm not going to screw the whole party yet.

You don't want to mess up the whole. Yeah, but by myself, I get kicked out of places all the time. That's an Uberita sport. He stayed in the sport. You probably have to be so thankful you found this group in Australia when you did. Yeah, I mean, I was like about to retire. Like I couldn't walk for a year. Like just came off the Super Bowl, just won a Super Bowl.

And then for six, eight months, couldn't walk. I was like, yo, I just was at the peak to can't do anything. What was the injury again? Groyant. So I had a groin. I had surgery. three months later toward the other side had surgery again and like couldn't walk couldn't get back from it and what was these Australians these barefoot Australians yeah what is the method behind having

um so they're called melbourne muscular therapy so muscular therapy is like their main thing body work but then they also do so i was doing whimhoff stuff i was doing like breathing exercises eye gazing where you like sit inches from each other and stare at each other eyes literally the first thing they did when they got to my house they blindfold me picked me up on their shoulders and started carrying me around the neighborhood and this is like philly and our season is not going too hot at the time so now they see my weird ass doing this and I'm like what's going on and they're like we just want you to know that no matter what like we got you and at that point I was like whatever I'm about to retire I'll do whatever y'all say and then within like three months I was back running again

and you know when you get hurt and you all of a sudden get that like oh I might be able to do this again yeah it freaking changed everything everything you're explaining to me sounds like the beginning of a cult sometimes the cults are right though I see that's how you know you're a couple days in. Sometimes a cold are right. You're a couple days is in already. I'm scared to even ask him which cult is right. Right, exactly.

She's got to know your Kool-Aid. Yeah, no doubt. But did you, so they're picking you up, they're walking around Philly, and all of a sudden you can, you walk and feel great a few months later. I mean, the body work is their main thing. So they did body work on me.

I would say between six and eight hours a day for two weeks straight. So I'm getting 40-plus hours a week of like bodywork, holding muscles, just completely releasing all the tension in my body. In their mind, your body's kind of like a plumbing system, and there's just clogs all over the place. So how can we help you unclog so everything flows properly? And that's what they did.

Like, you know, when you have a surgery, you wake up and your brain doesn't know what's going on. It just wakes up and it's like, oh, shit, this is completely different than what it was. Now just get fixed. And we're just so trained to, yep, you had surgery so you're good, but your brain doesn't know. It went to sleep and it couldn't really control or had pain somewhere and it wakes up and like, now it doesn't know what's going on. So I think that second surgery, you just kind of shut everything down and they were able to get me back on. For the last couple minutes, I would love to know what is your favorite thing about Coach Vrable? And what is one thing you don't, yeah.

That you think Vrapes could work on. Yeah, you think he'll work on. There we go. Because I was like, man, should I say hate? Growth mindset. I think what I love is that he'll get the competitiveness out of me. I love talking shit. I think he does too.

And it gets that, even though he's getting older and you kind of lose that T-level and that competitive. like I'm still a player. Yeah. But he still has it. He's got the edge. Yeah, he still has it. And you can get it out of him and it's great. Things that he could work on or improve.

Yeah, a pet peeve of yours. I feel like sometimes he gets soft on the guys now, you know? Oh, you think so? Yeah, I think he's good. I think it's more of a CBA thing than him, though. I think he wants to get us to work. But I think he's like kind of forced not to. And sometimes I look at him, I think he really wants to like spaz on dudes.

You know, like, if somebody came late, how, probably was before the CPA changed a little bit and you couldn't be as like strict a guy's I think he still has it in him and he wants to let it out but like I don't think he's allowed to anymore so you think he's lost to step you think he's got a little soft yeah right so what you're saying is the pacification of America raves is a part of that no not really it's like forced on him I mean like yeah he's a pent-up bull yeah like yeah like he really wants to just spaz on somebody for like coming late or like doing some shit that like constantly happens but he just like not allowed to. Yeah. Yeah. And I can like see it because I'm front row and I'm like,

I think he's about to do it. He's going to do it and he's like, I can't do it. You look at him in like a way like you're kind of sad for him because he's conforming. Yeah, yeah, he asked. Yeah. Let it out, man. Right. Because now it's like this Twitter age like fucking in 30 minutes it'll come out that Braves yelled at somebody and all the sudden. Yeah. Yeah. We got to shut the team. When you see it in him next time, you should just whisper, hey, Braves, do that. Do it. Do it. Let the shit out. Let it out. Back, bro. Do we got a, are we good? Are we good? All right, yeah, well, let's you do your thing, man.

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