Bussin' With The Boys - Mike Vrabel's Thoughts On The DeAndre Hopkins Signing + His Growth As A Head Coach

Episode Date: July 18, 2023

Recorded: July 17th 2023 | On this week's episode the boys hit a quick intro because of how massive our guest is. They hit everyone’s favorite segments, Shoutout no free shoutout and Pet Peeve of the week so do not worry about missing those. Following the intro, the boys sit down with Head Coach of the Tennessee Titans, Mike Vrabel. Vrabes is one of the boys as he was one of the first guests of the show. The dynamic between Coach Vrabe’s and the boys is interesting as they have both played for him, yet they are all boys and bust each other's balls. The boys immediately get into Vrabel’s process of taking over the Titans. Will and Taylor have been very vocal in episodes before that they did not like Vrabel in his early years as a head coach. The boys bring that up to him again and Vrabel reflects on the growth he has had and what all he has learned since becoming a coach. Will and Taylor do not hold back on telling some hilarious stories about them being terrified to go into team meetings after a bad practice. The boys also address the biggest news from this past weekend as DeAndre Hopkins is signing with the Titans. They ask Vrabel what that process looked like trying to get a stud wide receiver like DHOP on the team. Vrabel also addresses the narrative of this season being a rebuild for Titans saying that he never looks at a season with that perspective. The dynamic and chemistry that these three have is so fun. They are able to have the serious football conversations but then are immediately able to switch it back joking on each other and trying to out Alpha the other. Vrabel made himself very comfortable on that coach as you’ll see throughout the episode. At one point though, tensions got a little raised when the question was asked who would win in a fight, Vrabes or Will. Tune in to see what happens. Enjoy boys. 1:25 Previewing Vrabel pod 6:23 Shoutout no free shoutout 15:02 Pet Peeve of the week 22:25 Talking about moments in the Vrabel pod 25:44 MIKE VRABEL INTERVIEW STARTS 26:36 The boys are up for a Barstool Award 27:50 Vrabel’s growing process in becoming a head coach 31:58 What rule has he hated the most that has been implemented 36:25 His process in taking over the Titans 42:12 When Will got cut by the Titans 48:53 How Vrabel felt about them starting Bussin and if he’s a fan 58:10 DeAndre Hopkins is coming to the Titans 1:00:53 Are the Titans in a rebuilding year? 1:01:56 AJ Brown trade and what it’s like in the War Room 1:07:17 The transition to getting a new GM and what that process was like 1:10:32 Todd Downing DUI process 1:12:12 Will went to training to camp impersonate Vrabel 1:24:11 Vrabel missed Beer Olympics 1:28:30 Year 9 or Year 10 and getting a workout with the Titans 1:40:17 Next step for the bus 1:42:51 Being compared to Belichick 1:53:10 If you could coach any team, what team would it be? 1:55:46 3 toughest players he’s ever played with 2:00:46 Beating the Bills after not practicing 2:05:09 Twisted Question 2:07:23 Could he beat Dan Campbell in a fight Chevy: Head to https://barstool.link/ChevyBarstool and check out Silverado and all the Chevy Trucks Cars.com: Go to https://barstool.link/cars today. Georgia Boot: Use code BUSSIN for 20% Off at georgiaboots.com Twisted Tea: Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today at https://www.twistedtea.com/locations Duke Cannon: You have to try Duke Cannon, so for a limited time, we’re hooking The Boys up with 20% off your first order at DukeCannon.com with code “THEBOYS20” BodyArmor: Buy BODYARMOR Now on Amazon!For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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starts off awkward feel a little uncomfortable because you know we like legit don't even know how to start it because rabel does have multiple personalities when it comes to me and will at one moment he's your best friend the next moment he's like there's no question you verbally I was a question of my mind that I felt like he wanted to fight me. At one point in the spot. When he was talking. Yes. That's the Ohio in him, though.

He's like, yeah. I think he's starting to get serious. He fucking wanted those. I thought you were getting serious too. No, I did. Once I saw the look in his eye, I was like, okay, let's come. It is a small quarters. He's got a long reach.

Like, got to figure out my distance. Yeah, but all is fair and love and war. I think you'd handle that. The problem would be, Vrab would swing first because I'm thinking of my head, like, what am I going to do? Fucking just try to go after Vrabs right? know? Yeah. Yeah, that would have been...

You know what I mean? That'd have been a tough fucking... And then I feel like if he's swinging first, I'm at a disadvantage because he's got reach. Like, you've seen him try to mess around at practice with guys. Long-arm, motherfucker. It's a healthy respect. I'm sitting there. I was like, fuck, dude, he's...

Right, take it easy. We're joking. He's got to get in the body real quick and you handle your business. But it's about getting to the body. Right, right. Get into the body, get into the ground, fast. But I really truly enjoy that podcast through and through. Yeah, I know in the beginning, it's hilarious.

I can't even like remember the beginning. But yes, I was feeling the same vibe. Like when he sat down, I'm like, you know, where do we kind of, what do we start off on this? And then there was like 10, 15 minutes of us just peppering him with serious questions. And he's like, when the fuck did you guys get serious? Like, when did that happen? And I was like, all right, yeah.

It's not a respect. It is because there's a lot of news surrounding the Titans right now that people want to get into. Yeah. And Vrab is somebody who, you know, we feel like we have the relationship and the rapport with him to where he'll answer those questions. So you kind of, I'm thinking of myself. Like, it's good to ask those questions.

I feel like he'll give us more than what he would, you know, anybody else he's talking to. Yeah, I agree with that. But yeah, man. Sitting there in the most fucking alpha posture of all time. Just, he was laid out all over the couch, the table. He was getting cozy on this damn class. He's making himself at home.

Yeah. He's the best, man. It's just funny how the relationship is built, like, over time. Like, it's like I was excited to talk about some of the old stories, but even as I was trying to deliver them and I'm thinking about them, that's when the nerves are kicking in, like, Hey, have you seen some of the Kevin Byard clips? Yeah.

Like, Because it was a body session that I hated you. Yeah. It's, it was awesome, man. I feel like we need to get to this pod. ASAP, but let's hit some tier talk and,

not tier talk. Shout, no free shoutout, that, Pepi. That's good. Let's do that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do shout out,

no free shoutout. Boys, in the back, do we have any shoutouts back there? Hang on, what'd you guys think of the pod? Epic. As a Titans fan, it's so fun to be around Rable.

He's, We were just talking about it, like, probably the coolest and best coach in the NFL. He's my favorite Titans coach ever, second being Jeff Fisher. But Brable is all the time. If you're a Titans fan, you're going to absolutely love this episode. JP? Yeah, you know me, man. I heart Titans fan.

Love Brable. Was a big Patriots fan during his time there. Was a Texans fan when he was with the Texans. So it's been, it was cool. Great, great football talk. It was cool to see. y'all's dynamic because we always hear about it via group chat and we got to see the group chat come to life, which was dope.

What did you guys think of the dynamic the whole time? Could you feel definitely at the beginning? Definitely at the beginning. Throughout the pot are you feeling like, you know, you can tell there's a couple things I'm sitting there talking through and I'm like, I was nervous. The beginning 100%. It was like, oh my gosh, because right before the pot, right before you got here, Will's like, y'all know, I mean, when rape shows up, I'm going to shell up ASAP.

doing every day. And then it just folds out in real time. You're like, yeah. We said something and laughed about it. And then I was like, but you guys also know me. Like,

right when Vrabe shows up, I'm about to shell up. I did. It was nerve-wracking. Like, there was a point where we started talking about 2018, how Braves was an asshole.

And then you looked at Braves and goes, these are his words, not mine. I'm thinking, oh, fuck. Am I speaking out of turn? Like, literally in my own head.

Once you said, you said, like, unfair, I think is the word you said. Like, there are some times where you were unfair and then that's when I looked over and raised. I'm like, those are his ones. Just let your boy out to hang, dude.

But it ended up. It went exactly how our group chats go with him. Yeah. It's just awkward, then it's fun, and then it can get serious at times. It was... Yeah, oh, we all know we're clearly joking. Let's continue to have fun and banter back and forth.

Oh, wait a minute. Is something getting serious in here? Oh, wait a minute. I don't know if I want to respond to this. Yeah. Hey, are we cool? Can't just walk away. Can't just leave the chat, put your phone down.

You just get told, like, stop being fucking sensitive. And I'm like, What do you mean? No doubt, dude. No fucking doubt. But yeah, let's hit the shoutout, no free shoutout and pet pee for the week. JP, shout out, no free shoutout.

Oh, do you not have one? Oh, ma'am. My shoutout, no free shout out goes to, it happens in the spring in the summer, probably more so. Actually, it happens all year round. But my shout out, no free shout out goes to a good, hard sneeze

when you truly just feel that from the chest. And it just feels clear it out. You feel like, God, I needed that. So that's my shout-out, no-free shout-outs. Hell yeah. Mine goes along with our activity from last night, but shout-out-no-frey shout-out to free concert tickets.

Damn. It is, it's so elite. Once you get in the venue, you're like, okay, I didn't spend any money on tickets so, like, I can spend as much as I want to on some beers or, like, a merch item, whatever. And I'm Friday night. I went to ascend to amphitheater with some friends for Young the Giant. And I don't even really care for the band that much.

Like, they're good objectively, but they're not in my daily rotation. And I thought I was going to get a free ticket and didn't. And I ended up paying $80 to go to this show that I really didn't care to be at. So getting the free ticket to blink was, I felt like it leveled it out. I like spent like $40 and $40. Yeah. But yeah, shout out to free concert tickets. And obviously that was going to be my shoutout as well.

but I'll change my shout out but I just want to add on to your shout out. Like I want to give a shout out to the Predators because Brandon who works with the Predators, he works with their media group. I reached out to him about possibly purchasing a suite for the event. Hit me up on Wednesday and he's like,

hey, do you still need a suite? And I was like, yeah, he's like, call me. I called him. And he goes, hey, I went up the chain of command. Predators want to thank you for everything you've done for us and we're going to give you the suite for free. And I thought that was like cool as fuck. Like it was just awesome.

Like going to see Blank obviously my favorite band of all time and all that. I was like very, very grateful for that. So shout out the National Predators as well. The whole organization. They're incredible. So that's my add-on to Jacks. My shout-on, her free shout-out this week. It's pretty simple. Just getting a new hair, just a fresh haircut. Just feel like a new person. I feel like you got a little bit of your swagger back. Just feel more confident in yourself. Shout on fresh haircuts. Yeah. Garrett is like the number one culprit of that. Nice one, Mitch. Willie? My shout-out, no-free shout-out goes to picking a good booger.

Go on. Picking a good booger. I feel like if this first, when people first absorb that, it's kind of like, oh, shit. But also, I think we all have to understand at this point that literally 100% of people pick their nose on the sly or they get caught. But there's nothing like picking a good burger. Like when you got, there's different boogers now. When you got them dry boys, like right at the top here, and you can just, kind of get the thumb out with it.

There's ones that kind of hang back a little bit, and you've got a nice little lag when you get it pulled down. It kind of just like weirdly comes out deep from the nostril, and you're like, yeah, that might be a PR. Yeah. But then there are some downsides. Like when you get the ones that are kind of just running, and they're all around your nose and you feel like you just can't,

it's like a never-ending trying to get it out. That sucks. But all in all, I've always been a massive fan of nose picking. So my shot, I know for a shot, I was going to go to picking a good booger. I think you open a lot of people's eyes with that one. in a positive way in a positive way

because you know picking a boogers of faux pa yeah I feel like it's yeah I feel like it's like there's it's like a massive closet fan base right and you just kind of need that one

like you know fucking picking boogers is we all do it oh him too yeah and it's all good yeah I love that my shout out no free shout out is gonna go to the nod you get from another man

as you walk by on the sidewalk just everything's fucking understood you don't even know him you've never spoken to him in your entire life but you see him and you guys just give the head up or the head down and you just keep going about your business but every there was a whole conversation there a whole fucking car said a lot without saying anything at all exactly

i've actually thought about that recently like the relationships you have with people without knowing their name what they do like anything about them but you see them you know throughout the week whether it's the gym coffee shop whatever but you have that kind of that nod of just like yeah what's up bro what's up you just yeah even you've seen him a couple times or for me i'm a big like hey, how's it going guy? Sometimes you're just walking. Maybe I'm walking the dog because I keep up my hand out like this.

And I look at a guy and he fucking looks up at me and we catch eyes. We just both give one of those. It's like, brother, you have a fantastic fucking day. Like, what a deal that is. So that's my,

that's my shadow. That's a solid one. Thank you, thank you. Isn't it funny too on the bugger thing? Hey, have any of y'all ever seen me pick my nose? Yeah. You have?

Do what? Oh, J.P.'s used that one before? Oh, CTE, man. Chalking up. Continue, though, on your thought when you put your boge. My thought was going to be like, okay, say you have seen me, but I think it's funny, too. Like, I've never really seen you guys do it, but we all just know that we all do it. Isn't that wild? Ooh.

I don't know. I don't know about that. What? Oh. Like, no, you can't have this. I mean, you're cleaning yourself as it. Yeah. Yeah.

Now, I think when there's one, like right where the bone is, and it's right up there, like, almost blocking, like, airway. And you kind of get out there and you just scoop that thing out. But you're also... Yeah. That slide out, that little hangback. In the shower, you're, like, essentially washing your hands. I feel like already.

No, but it doesn't give that, like, picking your nose is low-key, in a very minimal way, like a Q-tip in your ear. Like, you get that shit done. You're like, oh, fuck, like that. My day got better. I felt something good about that. In the shower, it's like, you're just taking care of business. You're cleaning yourself.

Sometimes you feel one up there and then you, I don't know about you guys, but I'm thinking myself, let me stop. I'm going to take some private. I'm going to get some peace and quiet before I get this boy out. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not, this isn't one you just picking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's something in there.

There's something in that one. I want to take my time with this one because I don't want it to be rushed. Dude, one that I love, because I don't know if you guys get this, but I'm like right at the base in the middle. Sometimes it'll get a little raw. Like, you do that and like it kind of scabs up a little bit. I get that change of the seasons. Yeah.

And I've had that recently for like two weeks. It's been bugging the fuck on me by my right nostril. But it'll get like backed up in here. And I'll find my private space. Start digging around. And you kind of feel it like gathering together. Feel the edge of the scab kind of comes where you're like, you kind of want to peel it and feel.

Yeah, yeah. But if you start to rip it a little bit, you're like, oh, fuck. Yeah, too, now I'm in pain. It's a bleeder. It's a bleeder. But you kind of get the boys all congregating together in one unit. And then you give a, and that fucking explosion that comes out, it's like. I don't know about the explosion part.

Really? I've never done that one. Oh, that's just a big bugger. Get, collect them all and then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're like kind of in there and you're like, you go in for one because you know one's there. But he's got a couple of buddies with him. You didn't know about. You walked into a room.

You thought I was one individual. It's actually multiple individuals. Yeah. That thing for me. And I can get them kind of together. kind of, you know, tie them up, and then if I can send them out, that to me is like a refreshing feeling. What scares me when I send them out?

What scares me when I send them out is that I'm not going to get to see him. Like, it might not hit my, when I'm like, I hit a snout rock and I'm like, damn, I kind of want to see the. Oh, you want to see it. I want to see the trophy. One of my number one lives in life is when I just get a random bloody nose, everybody's like, hey, man, you got a bloody nose. I'm like, yeah, I don't know how that happened.

Massive boogers with me. You always got to lie about it. Always got a lie. Especially when you're young, too. I feel like you just dig in that nose. You just start bleeding. You're like, oh, what's going on? You're like shoving fucking...

It's like the altitude or something. Yeah. We're in South Carolina. I don't know what the fuck happened. Being like a kid, like not to pivot, but like when you're younger, like farting. Like, getting a good fart out. Like a lot of people would be like, yo, don't do that around here. And then he's, as you get older, like, Hugh especially.

Like, just farting all the time. Like, you get a good fart out. Kind of like your stomach's hurting a little bit. Is this a shit? Is this? not a shit and then you let out a big fart, you're like, feel so much better. That's a fucking... It's similar to the booger.

Farts are awesome. Yeah. Those are scary parts. What a pod. Pet peeve. JP, do you have a pet peeve of the week? Yep. Peeve of the week? My peave of the week is you know, like, I guess there's two seats to the toilet.

Like the full cover and then the one you sit on. So it's the second one that you sit on when you're pooping. When you lift it up to go pee, and it doesn't stay up, and it just continuously falls down. It makes me so mad. Because that one in there's got it. It doesn't have it. It stops, but some, like, it has, like, a little bit of lean forward.

But you know you can trust it, you know you can count on it. Yeah, but I think what bugs me the most is that, like, people live in those houses, and they use that every single day and just, like, let that fly. And think the same thought probably every time. It's like, yo, it takes five seconds to fix it. this. Now, he's now fielded in the wrath of the stream everywhere. Clean it up later. My ass probably wouldn't.

No. Yeah. Yeah, it will happen to me probably and I'm not going to do. I got one. This might be our first ever seasonal pet peeve. Oh. So in the spring and fall, I do not abide by this rule. But in the summer and probably mostly the winter, my pet peeve is people who choose to sit outside at restaurants. in the middle of summer. I'm a sweater. I just sweat profusely, especially when I'm outside.

In Nashville, it's like 90 degrees. And someone who will make the decision to sit outside in the sun for an hour and a half while you eat, I might be alone on this one, but I remember when we were in Vegas and me, you and JP went and got breakfast to that spot. And they were kind of like pushing us.

They were like, if you want to sit outside, like it would be quicker. We're like, no, we'll wait. And then they're like, all right, come this way. But I don't know. I just, when it's too hot outside, I want to AC. I want to be able to enjoy my food. I don't want to walk out with back sweat and like, you know, pit stains.

But when that fall weather comes around and it's a nice crisp 70, yeah, get me outside in the scenery. No question. So, yeah, that's my pet peeve. You're not alone, Jack. My pet peeve of the week. It's something that I noticed last night and it happens a lot when you're out, like, at like, some sort of event.

It's the people that are just nonstop taking videos. that they're never going to watch again. Like, you can take, like, one or two of, like, maybe, like, your favorite songs. But, like, you shouldn't be recording the entire show because you're never going to watch it again. Like, live in the moment. Put your phone down. Have some fun. Like, enjoy the people around you.

Enjoy the scenery and everything. Like, you're not going to fucking watch the video of the concert through the phone again. That is no lie. That is no lie. I said zero photos last night. Yeah, I saw the text. And you were, and you probably had the best time ever. I did, except for that one girl.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, pet peeve for the week is women that get too drunk and then hit on you in front of your wife and steal your shit. That's an easy pet peeve. What's that? It's being handsome. My pet peeve is going to go along with the food thing. I can't stand when, like if you're on a date and you're order an appetizer

and the appetizer's uneven amounts of whatever it is. So, like, we got dumplings recently, and there was five. It's like, who's getting third dumpling? And so you kind of wait and you play like the, no, you got it. No, you got it back and forth. And eventually, you're like, yeah, I'm like, just give a six or four. Right. The quality.

Yeah. With that, we were at a sushi spot, me, JP, and Will in New York. And I feel like that happened every single role. And it was like, in my head, I'm like, I want this fucking food. But I'm like, all right, go ahead. Will. And then I knew Will got that one. I was like, all right, go ahead, JP. I'm like, I know I'm getting this next one. And I'm just hoping it's the best one, honestly, selfishly. I gave up that last real quick. I was like, y'all got it. That one fucking pissed me off, dude.

Sea urchin. It's gross as fuck. Just overpriced. It's really just a bugger. That's all that is. Yeah. You do yours. I'm still thinking about mine. My pet peeve of the week is going to be when you pull your gym shorts out of the dryer and your drawstring is tucked inside the fucking waistband. Not where it's like half an inch, but like three, four inches away. And you're like, dude, I got to fucking work to get this shit.

You're doing this, the whole way across until you finally inchworm that motherfucker across so you can get that thing out. And then you got to pull it. And then you got to restretch it. And then sometimes you get the twofer where the motherfucker goes back in. Oh.

You know you pull the drawstring out. And then you go to stretch. And then it slides back in. Yeah. And then it's sluts. eyes back in just, it doesn't even have, then it goes in just a little bit where you know it's kind of easy, but hey, bro, I just fucking did this with you. Like, why are we doing this again? Yeah, hoodies too. Yes. Hoodies too, bro.

Bad about that. Oh, one, yeah, one super long. The other one's on your fucking top of your head. And you're like, dude, what are we doing? Because shorts, I feel like you get some sometimes not favorable material, but you know, like, when it has like that little plastic tip to where you can kind of grab it as you're like guided through. Yeah. On the hoodie, when you're messing with like 100% cotton or something like that. I feel like the hoodie so much fucking takes so much more time. Yeah.

And it just pisses you off because I started like tying my, tying my hood. Oh, for real? Before I put it in the washer. That's smart. That's like, that's heads off off. That's a vet move. That's you've been in the game for a while and you figured that out on your own. Like I, I'm thinking of that matter to being sick and tired.

Yeah. Do you know what that plastic piece on the end of the shoelacer, your drawstring is called? Mm. An agla. And agla, yes. I had to look it up. to make sure I said it right. An aglet.

It's always a fun little. Oh, shit. Educational pod. Yeah. I know that. My pet peeve is when that green text pops up in a group chat. Oh. And you got that one fucking douchebag of a friend who has an Android,

Google phone. I don't even know what they're called. I don't even know what the other phones are called. But when it's not an iPhone and it's not I message, it's not light blue. When that green pops up, dude, it's like, I don't know. It's like when you, you know.

Yeah. You know what I'm fucking saying. Yeah. Amen. And then a video sent to the group or a picture. That shit comes in this big. Yeah. You're like, I can't even fucking see it.

Or when, you know, somebody likes it. And then it says, like, Taylor LeWan liked this message. And I'm thinking, like, Taylor's got an iPhone. I know it ain't him. Yeah. But it's the green text. When that green text pops up in a group chat, you're just thinking, who's the motherfucker that wants to ruin the day to day?

Yeah. They just got to. You just leave them out and tell them later. Yeah, it is one of those deals, ma'am. The green text messages just pisses you off. Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it kills all vibes. That being said, let's get to this my favorite podcast. I feel like he's dragon?

No, I'm just, I got to, I'm hungry. Oh. This is more me just feeling like I want to eat. Brabous and saying, angry, I feel him. Yeah. A couple times it's like coming. to a dad, he's like, what's next? He's just like, fuck.

I don't know. He loved that pod. Yeah. Yeah. They just tell stories. Or you like try and work on, like, you're trying to say something thinking you're going to get like the response you're wanting out of him. Yeah.

I was already thinking about, uh, when I was talking about bitching about the trash time going in for the bills game and he's just kind of like looking at me like. You're mad you're playing? Yeah. You know that's what I was about. Bravely. Nobody wants to do that. Yeah.

Nobody wants trash time. But I thought he, I thought he was for sure. you're going to react with the Belichick thing. I thought we were going to get him. I know. I know. Because my next thing, like when he started to say something about, I was going to make, so you know, you know what the nickname is. Because somebody did say that. Or it was talked about about him and then somebody asked him about it at an interview like the next week. Yeah, I haven't heard that a whole lot. I like that you brought it up because I want to see how he handled it. He handled it. He handled it. Unfortunately, like the best way you can.

Like, I mean like, I didn't even know. I never knew about that. Yeah. And for A be hype, dude. If like if I was a head coach and I just beat you at even some of your own games. I'd be on the sideline, like, hype as fuck. Yeah, I'm him. You'd be like, my home's out there, dude. I'm him. Shake that hand in after the game, just like, yeah, motherfucker.

There's Rayble talk shit, dude, heavy in games. I remember being out there in the play hasn't even started yet, and I could hear Rayble talking shit to a DB or a linebacker on the other team. Like, he's, that's him. So, but it was really enjoyable to have him out. We got to get him on again. Yeah. Yeah, he's good.

You think he's going to come on during the bye week? No. I don't. But he did say he would. Yeah. And so we'll send him a fine line. The good thing is he came late. So we have that over his head.

Yeah. Just for some negotiating room. We don't have to pay him anymore. Yeah. Technically. Depending what our price is for the fine. With that said, boys, please enjoy this episode of Bustmore with the boys with Mike Rable.

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And also, where you're going next is back to this episode. You know how it works, man? Get a little closer. Yeah, get close. I'm in here for the real thing. The real thing. Yeah.

I laid out last time. Yeah, you were real comfortable last time. But you're doing us a big favor too coming on here. You know, one of our being a big guest early in the pod. No, pretty much put you guys on the map. You think so?

I would say Delaney put us on the map. And then Jalen Ramsey put us on the map. go back and look at the content and the hits and the number of. Yeah, you can do. I'm proud of you guys. I appreciate that, man. Proud. Your social media managers doing big things now.

Proud, Papa. Yeah. How do we even start this thing? I don't know. I don't know. What do I get, is give me some. We'd love some water.

Yeah, we'll get you water. Some body armor. How has the summer been? So, you go to Canada? No, I'm going to Canada, August 4th. I'll be there until September 10th. Sweet.

And so we're going, we have a couple stops for training camp. One thing. Boston. So we're going, I think we're going to Raiders and Chargers. What do you got in Boston? The Barstool Awards. Your boys were up for an award right now.

What are you guys up? Best newcomer? Who knows, man? I think this is best pod. Rookie? Probably. Yeah. Best average pod.

You know what you're up for. No, we really don't. I know, we know we're presenting an award, but we're also up for an award. What are you presenting? We don't know. We don't know. We don't know anything.

Kind of how things roll. Yeah. It's not planned out, huh? No. You don't have a script? No, you know how it is. just go off the cuff, dude. Good.

From the hip. Baby's getting big. She is, isn't she? Funny. This is exactly how I thought the spot would start. Didn't she adorable? Our relationship with you is so unique, and Will and I would talk about it all the time, because you do a great job of being a head coach and then pivoting. Which one do you want?

And then being a boy. What's the best Flav? I guess it's better warm. Room temp. Room temp. It goes down better that way. But what were you saying? I was saying that this is exactly how I thought the pod would go.

Like at the beginning of this pod, just like getting into the whole thing. Because Brab, like, we've talked about this pot before, 2018 Braves and 2023 Vrabs are two totally different braves. A little more rough around the edges at first. Trying to implement a culture. So at first, bullets were flying. There is a bunch of smoke out there. We're just trying to figure out who the new guy is around here.

Knees Benhead on a swim. On a swivel. And so, And so you're thinking, okay, this coach is an asshole. I'm excited to see how you're going about. And then, but like, no, I get where he's going. As the relationship grew, it's like, you do a good job of doing this. You kind of, hey, you're like, in, out, like you're chirping and then you're being a boy.

And then you're yelling. It is a tough place to navigate. Is that, is that? From this perspective of being a head coach. And having played and having kids that are 23, 21, I mean, And it's like, what's enough, what's not enough, still got, you know, I think the one thing that I've tried to do is make connections, but still hold guys accountable, however that may be. Did you find that difficult when you first started?

Like, when you're at Ohio State first, right? Yeah, different. I mean, different in college. I mean, it's much different, but I don't think I coach any differently at college I did in Houston or here. I think it's just grows. Just like your guys' podcast is grown. There's more responsibility.

There's more appearances. There's more that you do, the higher up that you go. Obviously, you become a head coach when you came to the tights. Like, what do you feel like you've learned the most since that first year? That you can plan for a lot of things, but there's some things that you can't plan for. There's always going to be distractions. There are always going to be things. Just being flexible, being willing to say, hey, you're going to have to move away from your script.

You know, I think some of our best practices were the ones where we just went out there and we put the ball down, said call it, first and 10, second and three, third and eight, whatever it is. Now we're down the red zone or it's fourth down. I mean, those are where you, you know, that's where the games played. So I think realistically, it's just being able to adjust and be flexible. With that comes awareness. Do you feel like there are moments or situations in that first year that brought that awareness up that's like, I got to do it a little bit differently the next time. this happens. I mean, I think that that happens the other year in the first year to second year, you know, every year. You're always trying to learn. You're trying to figure out what's best for the team, you know, what's good for practice, what's good for certain player, veteran guy, young guy. I mean, I don't think you ever have any the answers. You know, you try to hire staff. You try to make changes and, you know, try to get everything perfect and then then go out and practice. But I don't know

if there was any like one moment. I mean, hell, our first game, it was an eight-hour game in Miami. Two-two-hour rain delays. That's brutal. Didn't cover that in the coaching manual. So, I mean, we wouldn't remember Matozac and Bakers were going up on the third deck to buy, like, mini pizzas. Really, really?

Guys were starving. You went night. You went night-nice. Yeah, I didn't remember that game. Yeah, I think going night-night-night. Up and out. I was out there. Knees bent head on a swim.

It was not on a swive there. But I was, you saw me, I was finishing the ball. But ever since that day. You were finished longer and a guy with the bar and, like, whoa. Yeah. All set. That was the blind side. That was when they put the blind side block in.

Yeah. I think the next year is when they implemented the rule. I think they implemented it after the game. After the game, they're like, we won't do that anymore. That was a wild situation. That whole game in general, because then Delaney broke his leg also. We literally go out. I think it was like two minutes left in the first time.

half when they had a rain delay. So we literally went out and had to do two minutes. A minute. To just start. It's like, we're in their practice and walking through in the locker room. Yeah. I've never been a part of a game where you're like, all right, just take your pads off. Everyone relax. We're not going anywhere for a while. It was wild. It was wild. And it was half time. Then we went back out. Another storm delay. It was nuts. Yeah. That was a while. You bring up, speaking of the rules, over the last few years, what rules, what rule have you hated the most that's been implemented.

What rule? It's a good question. I mean, I think that the rules have always, you know, I don't know if I hate any of them. I think that, you know, you talk about defenseless receiver. Like, I think the players have changed their behavior, I think for the good. I mean, you look at some of those NFL film clips,

even from like 10 or 12 years ago, and you're like, my God. Yeah. Like, yeah. But I give credit to the players for changing their behavior, lower on their target. I think that's a good rule. You know, we'll see where the kickoff thing goes.

We'll see how that it, you know, adjusts and does it affect, you know, the ability to return football? I think the teams will still, you know, I'm sure you have a take on it being, you know, we all played special teams. So kickoff still needs to be a part of the game and I think it will. But when you look at the analytics and the numbers, just trying to do something to help the players and the safety of it. So I don't know if there's been any rule changes that I've hated. What about as a fucking football player guy? Not as a head coach. Early 2000s dude.

Yeah, I'll remember if there was one year where I don't know if it was 2020. But because you always do a good job of like coaching within the rules and be like, guys, I fucking, I trust me. I hate it. I disagree, blah, blah, blah. But this is how we have to do it. I want to say it was maybe debacks or people coming in to cut. Yeah, climbing on polars or something like that. That was kind of like, man, what the fuck?

he want these guys to do. Yeah. But what, I mean, you look at that, and that hasn't affected the plays. I mean, these tackles and these guys can still get out on the edge, but the tackles didn't like when those guys would go low at them. And so what it's done is it's forced them to slow down, right? Because if they keep going, Taylor, then the DB just sticks and avoids. Right?

We talked about that. We saw Christian Fulton stick and dip underneath and make a play. But then if the lineman comes to balance and just gets in the way, well, then the collision isn't that bad. So I don't think it's affected. Really the one that's affected it has been on those slip screens where you used to have to go out there and throw and you had no chance. Yeah. You're just trying to get in the way. Throw it.

And so really those aren't having been really good players around league. And I think probably that one has been the only one that's affected, has been affected by that. The toss cracks, the perimeter runs and some of those screens, you know, hell, it's kept Ben's uniform clean for a couple years because he'd just go out there. belly flop. On the front side, every single time. It'd be just grass stain out there on the front side of those screens. So that one, and I think Taylor will agree that if you didn't go out there and throw it the guy, you just weren't going to be able to get the DB on that.

No, especially with all that space. If they're up a little bit more like path screen or something like that, it's a little bit easier, but they're out there. You're on truck or trailer or something like that. And we coach to them. We coach to whatever the rules are and try to help everybody and use them to our advantage. That's a good job. That was a good job.

Yeah, you're doing it around that. That was, you're, you're very well-spoken. Well, like, diced it up a little bit. Let's go. Yeah, as a football fucking player guy, which rule do you hate the most? Give me fucking three options. Like, I don't even, you know what I mean? Like, what are we talking about?

Quarterback, being around. Probably a thing for you as a player that was, like, hard to. Being around the knees of the quarterback? Yeah. When you're rushing, being a pass rusher? We pay these guys $50 million. After time, you weren't paying nobody. You were a player.

You were rushing the past. Yeah, I wouldn't know. like that one. You would hated it. You know what I mean? Like, but like you got to protect these guys. What do you want to see all the court? Nobody's going to watch. You told me to give you our options, brother. Okay. And I tell you, I don't mind the quarterback being protected below the knee and a, you mean, outside of pocket. Where are we going on a quarterback? Low. Thank you, Taylor. You're welcome. Yo. Thank you for, coachable. Thank you for paying attention in the team meetings. Yeah. Hey, we got to talk about

the team meetings. Like, that was your first year, the most terrifying shit. Because you listen to you're asking me defensive questions. You're all on the same meeting. Nuts, dude. Did you happen to listen to any of our Kevin Byard episode? No. I haven't listened to any. I only listen to mine.

That's... Okay. That's right. That's part of the course. No, we always... I've heard a couple hundred since then. Yeah. I was referencing the KB one because we were talking about how much, you know, it sucked that first year

playing for Braves compared to years, years later. It sucked. It was just you weren't used to it. That's your perspective. But we're saying as players, we go in the locker room, we're like, this fucking guy. Tough. Fair. Yeah.

No. You saying my opinion's fair? You saying but fair. But fair. Okay. Like. Or no. I wouldn't say you were extremely fair in 2018.

Here's what I thought. If I could. This is words. Hey, that's words, coach. You know that? Look, Taylor's thought. Get the bag. Get the bag.

No, don't get the bag. Don't get the bag. Jack, bitch, you were for us. I don't know how fair I am. I brought the rest of your stuff in February, February 27, 2003. Taylor was thanking the Titans for bringing their stuff. I do appreciate that. I brought the rest of the stuff.

Do I open this? There's nothing in there. It was just a prop. I just put it together. There would be something nice in a gift basket or something. Yeah. But 2018, here's my perspective, looking at it, zoomed out.

Great. New coach, head coach, implementing the culture, he wants to implement came from the Bill Belichick tree of the Patriots. You're walking into a very loose. Were we young then? Was 2018 we a young team? No, no. You had vets? Yeah, we went to young. He wasn't too young.

But a good mix. And I feel like Eleni was in there. College. A head coach comes in. He's weeding out the week immediately. He's cutting the grass to find the snakes. Triming the fat. Yeah. And I feel like that's where you went. At what point did you think, okay, I've got a good grasp of this culture. Because I respected

absolutely, and I've said this, before on record that nobody complained, nobody bitched. You know, we got buy-in from Durell, from Rack, all those guys on defense, and from the guys on offense. So Delaney, I mean, it was like, it was easy for me because it was like these guys, you know, I said they're going to hold the best players the most accountable. And we tried to do that. And I thought it sent a good message and guys didn't bristle, guys didn't like,

Because I think I tried to make it relevant to coaching. It wasn't just to bitch to bitch. Like, Taylor, we're going to get to the line of scrimmage. Whether Taylor wanted to get to the line of scrimmage, eventually he got to the fucking line of scrimmage. But that was our like little pissing contest when we first got there. Yeah, there was a lot of conflict before cooperation with you and me. But it was fine. Yeah, no, it worked out great.

Great. Yeah. But it was tough that first year. What's it like coaching a guy like Taylor and then coaching a guy like Ben Jones? Well, I think I respect. The one thing I have done is I've respect that there's a lot of different personalities and there's a lot of way to get your job done. And I have a great relationship with Taylor, great relationship with Ben.

And, but, I mean, hell, their opposite is going to be. I mean, it's like Taylor, I realized just, Taylor wanted a bitch, just the bitch sometimes because that's who Taylor was. But it wasn't like he never did the work. It wasn't like he didn't put the work in. It wasn't like he didn't run or lift or whatever. he just like okay Taylor we know you're here you don't really have to tell us that you're here we know you're here but it was fine and I didn't have a problem I mean it was like we asked him to do something

he did it he worked hard he ran he was at the front of the back you know I mean it was like so I didn't but that's who Taylor is it's like we respected it and you know want to lift this way okay yeah you know modified a workout who gives a shit just getting the weight row was that always I mean, that's fair. That sounds about right. I bring up literally you and Ben, you're sitting here. We were just talking about you. And then I think Ben, because you guys are very different.

Yeah. So it's almost like figuring out communicating with players when you're more so, not as much the coordinator or position coach anymore. When you're the head coaching you, you probably have to maybe listen a little bit more versus being like, you know, just fucking do this or run to the head man if you want to fucking change something. You know what I'm saying? I would always notice like, like if I'm a coach,

I'm confiding in Ben a lot more than confiding in me. Ben is like as trustworthy as they come, as tough as they come, knows all the plays. Literally he could, I'm correct me if I'm wrong, he could probably sit in a coach's meeting and offensive meeting and tell everybody what they're doing. As the center, you have to. You like inside linebacker, you know everybody's job, you know what the front's supposed to be, you know what the coverage is supposed to be. I mean, the center has to know where everybody's blocking.

I used to love when Keith would be in there and he'd ask like the left guard, the rookie left guard, what the right tackle has on, 18 watch row. And I'm like, thinking to myself, what fucking difference is make? Ben's just going to tell everybody what to do. No question. Ben, like... C, triple, man reach, let's go.

And then with, like, but looking at that, Ben's no longer on the team. Like, Brewer is a great football player. Correct. And he's like, you said it yourself, tough as a $2 steak. Not the best guy at enunciating, a little more quiet than Ben was. Like, is that something you've worked on during OTAs with him? Well, again, last year we went through a situation. where on a short week going to Green Bay on the road,

Brew had to play center four days. And I saw him over the course of four days, prepare, communicate, get those guys ready to go all the way up until we left the hotel from Green Bay. You know, those short weeks, you're cramming in everything you can. And it was like, that's exactly what we're looking for. You're going to be different than Ben.

You're going to lead differently than Ben. But we're going to need you to lead. that's what the center has to do in the offensive line. Bruce is awesome, dude. Have you been around, brew? I mean, a little bit. Yeah. The second time, what was that, 2021?

Yeah. He's just. Second stint. The second stent. Trying to work on a thing. Yeah, the second stint when you, you know, you had to cut me. And I didn't hear. It's a number.

And I didn't hear from you. It's a number thing. I didn't hear from you. We brought you back. Yeah, but I never heard from me the day of the cut. Oh, you didn't go to his office? We got to the next day. Yeah, but I never.

heard from you. You didn't have the stones to bring your boy in and cut him. You were going to be in the meeting the next morning. You re-signed you. I had to weigh my options. Oh, okay. Option A or option A. That's the way of my options. When you cut Will, you didn't bring him in the office or anything like that? I didn't get a phone call, you know, like, hey, when would you like to? No, I got snipped, neutered. That's a real fashion way, dude. But you've been doing it a couple times. They probably thought, oh, this guy's got tough skin. He's been here. Yeah.

It's just fucking brutal. For me, they had to massage me in. They're like, hey, we know this is going to happen. No, it's still fucking tough, man. I didn't get cut. We brought you back and then we elevated you after that. Yeah. Yeah.

Ravens game. Speaking of cutting guys, what's like the most awkward or is there a situation? There was a guy like just livid, yelling, screaming, mad, or like an awkward situation when you're cutting somebody. I mean, this is, you know, this is tough. We haven't been through it as a player. You know, you go all the way through training camp.

I mean, it's like, spent a lot of time with guys even more so than regular season. Like the training camp is like long days. You know, and it's just like you know that things are going to happen and you can only keep so many guys. And I think just, you know, you just try to put yourself in their position and try to be as respectful as possible and, you know, be as honest as you can. I think I've always tried to be honest. I think our organization has tried to be honest and say, you know, we're, we're, we're, we would like to bring you back on a practice squad, or there's been numerous times where we've said

we're probably not going to have a spot for you on the practice squad. And I think players at least appreciate the honesty so they know where they stand. There's never been a guy that lost their mind. I mean... You don't say names, but have you to have a couple experiences? I mean, it's always been, you know,

I mean, there's been, you know, in five years, there's been, you know, maybe one or two where, you know... Gets a little dicey. You know, called Jeb. Just not going to do shit Exactly It was all stretch No

Yeah It hasn't been anything I think the year before you got there Like 2017 Some guy got cut He went to the sauna Pissed in the Rocks in the sauna And for weeks

No sauna The sauna was It just smelt terrible in there So I think I was 12 And we had like an overnight Stay at like the Tennis and Racket Club Back in Akron

Ohio Like Friday night Like kids night or whatever And they locked the doors until like six in the morning. So he's like run around a racquetball courts or firing the, you know,

racquet balls at everybody. And so I remember in the sauna and some dude pissed in the sauna. And the instructor came in. Big meathead. And he wouldn't let us leave the sauna until, and I'm like, listen, I'm fucking fat and I'm sweating.

And it's midnight. You need to own up to this shit because we're, he kept us in his sauna. Like, we're just like, weathering away until the dude finally said, it was me. Like, thank God. And, like, we all went rushing out of the sauna.

What an embarrassing situation for that guy. To sit there with a bunch of kids and be like, I... Do you throw the one that pissed? No, I mean, I think he was like, he was probably older. And, I mean, I was like... You were still 12. Like... Awkward 12.

12's a tough year. 11, 12, 13 is just awkward time. You know, you know Brave growing up in Ohio, like, Brave's got some stories. Mullet. There's no question. Mullet. Rock the mullet. It was...

what was it like being a dad having 12, 13 year olds, finding themselves? You know what their search history looks like on the explore page. Yeah, it's like Chen, like three, four, five, six knocks. Like, if the door's locked, why is the door locked? We know why the door's locked. Long showers. Yeah.

That's fucking, that's a tough deal. Yeah. It sounds like quarantine. It sounds like quarantine. You ever caught one of them? You ever caught one of them tugging it? Hell no. I would deny it if I'd.

did. Yeah? So you did. No. No. No. It's definitely Carter. No.

I meant I've caught Carter, but not Carter talking it. Yeah. Not in the middle of the deal. Somebody else was probably talking to it. Hey, dad has got to be. As a dad, you're kind of like, hey, nice. But at the same time, you're like, you can't do that in this house. No, you can't do that.

I had one of those situations of my dad one time. Were you called you? Yeah, like, there was nothing like that. We were kind of just like kissing on my bed and her shirt was off. I was like a seamanier. We were just kind of kissing in the bed. He went into the mic was like kind of kissing. You know, I was just tearing up my denim.

I was kind of like, you know. And then all of a sudden I hear loud footsteps and I thought, oh, fuck, it's over. And then my dad walked in. The girl goes, you, get out. She gets out and he's like, hey. You talk about the walk of shame. Oh, she was rattled for days. but he kind of like, low-key gave me a fist bump.

It was like, you should have been working out. He should have been training for football. Like, gave me a whole talk of how to stay focused on ball and all that. Right move. It's kind of the deal, ma'am. Lys gentlemen, we interrupt this episode yet again for another ad read, and that ad read is one of our favorites. One of our favorites.

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That kind of is nice, though, a little nostalgic feeling because when we first started with Brae when the bus, we always had stuff like that. What? Trains going on train going by. Mike's going out. The gravel road. Nerves.

You guys have upgraded. This is nice. We're a better spot now. Yeah. I forget that the last time, yeah, you were like one of the first five episodes. Was it first five? First seven, eight. One of them.

That was, I will tell you, that was like a breath of fresh air. When we asked you to come on, you're like, yes. Because that's like the biggest. nervous thing is when you add. I was absolutely terrified. Yeah. We had Travis Kelsey on last week. And he was talking about when he started his podcast, how Andy Reid would feel. And then Andy Reid went on. He felt a whole lot better. And that literally was a massive, like, win for us when you came on.

Obviously, you boosted the numbers. I hate giving you flowers. I know. He knows. He knows. He did. But you did say. About fucking time. Yeah. You did say you would cut off your dick for a Super Bowl. Now, if we're going in order, that year we went to the AFC championship between the Baltimore Ravens game and the Chiefs game, they asked you about cutting your dick off and you said no. And so do you feel like you ruined our joke instead of Super Bowl?

I said that or whatever. I don't know. You implied that was a joke. I was excited. I got caught up in the moment of the pod and I was, like I said, I was just trying to give you guys some clicks. You did. You really did.

That was nice. I want to say like, because Jalen came on after him, right? I can't remember. I believe he did, but then... Let's just say the bar was set. Yeah. Put it that way. And then it gets beat.

It gets beat. I'm okay. How did you feel when we had started the podcast at first? Because it was fairly newer, especially for players doing it then. Because you guys had just paid Taylor a boatload of money. Appreciate that. I mean, I think we just said, just can we not do it during the season or whatever it was? I don't know.

We did have a sit-down conversation about it. Yeah. I don't know if it was kind of view or... Because the Delany one podcast. popped off and that was like an IV story that he told. And it's like, oh, Titan's training room, IV, whatever. And so you had to make an example about like, hey, guys, they can take anything that you say and make it into a report.

Right. And it's just, this is a long conversation and wherever it goes from here. But the point was of the players is it gets going to get spliced up and it's going to get cut and edited by these guys. And, you know, who knows what's going to come out. You know he wanted to say something. I did. You wanted to say something.

I did want to say slap dicks. But you didn't think, you know, you didn't have much of a thought on at all. You didn't really care? No, I didn't care. No, I mean, I was like, thought it was going to fall flat on its face, but, you know, I didn't care. I really had no idea I was going to have. I mean, I was like, see how this goes. But I didn't care.

I don't think I had, like, a, I mean, it gave me, like, it was. There was like free ammunition. I could just give you guys shit at any point. That was tough. Yeah, I was, yeah. Literally the first year, every team meeting, I was like, man, I hope something doesn't come out about the pod. I was just praying about it. Man, you, you took your time.

You, I mean, you did it a few times. I didn't want to, like, wear it out. I wanted to make sure that it was worth it. The second time around, I feel like I was more nervous about it for the second stand. Because I'd have to come in. You had been going heavy on social, and then it was like, I was at the Raiders. Look at my clicks. And I came back.

I got you. pretty good that that time. God, you're talking about your little presentation. Yeah, presentation. But you would watch, let's not get a twist. Now, you watched, you watched all the content. No, I didn't. You would come in the next day.

Hey, Will, how was the Wendy's Burger? I have people that do that for me. No. Here's why. Hang on. There's no way. Here we go. You know how much, how many people we have on staff that do that?

Raves. Here's what I'm going to say. Hang on, I got this. I got this. Okay. So the first year. I guess he's in charge. Listen, brother.

I don't let him do it. I guess he won a power struggle. I know who won the power struggle. No, I have a real life example. Are you giving him back to him? I'm just, no, I'm fucking, hey, make sure the boy is not. Don't let him. He's getting you right.

You're right, you're right, you're right. You're right. You're 10, you don't have the balls of stuff. Don't wait. Brable? Well, hey, Teen Keys, you saw in the group chat. Don't let him get too confident. Don't let him get too confident.

I know. But we were about to play Washington. And Lafleur, like, had me in a meeting when they were breaking down like what the defense is doing because Minoski was still the D.C. Yada, yada, yada. And Braves was in the meeting.

And we're like sitting there. Blaine was next to me. Braves on my left. And there were, I won't say any names with Braves showing me like a couple of stories. Like, look at this, motherfucker, dude. You know, this shit is so, you know, either this ain't true or, you know, it ain't going down like that.

And he's like, he shows me his phone and I see that my man's on Instagram. So from that moment, I always knew, like, of Raves, he's a, he's a, Tier 3, man. He's a little closet. He likes the content. You surf the web and that's okay. I don't like the content, but I like to know what's going on. And you also like... That's a little bit of a different story than you were just saying because usually do you have people for it. Well, yeah. Will's doing real world experience. Because he poured his fucking heart and soul into that story.

At least I got to give him a little credit. Is it not true? The first blog I wrote, you take a screenshot. Can't wait to read more from the shitter. I did. I mean, I just like to know. so I can have some ammunition. Any of my tweets, if I get out of line a little bit with Twitter or I get too much on the moral, like on the moral, like, oh, what are you the fucking?

Yeah. Moral police. Now, you said something. I remember. It was something about like, we can go back through. Tell me about the Darren Bates thing. Your mindset after.

Well, that was, that was more so, that was like a different example. And I was fucking terrified for my life because I had taken the video of DB in the locker room. We had the linebacker room, like, if you were injured and you were like doing walk through, but not practicing.

You kind of know what you're trying to do as a player. It's like, I see you trying to take these walkthrough rest, but you're not actually trying to fucking get in there practice. So you would essentially, I bought this neck brace off Amazon that you'd have to wear around if you just did the walkthrough and not to practice. And so when D.B. had his yellow jersey on for a walkthrough that when he came back in the locker room, I threw it out of my, hey, you got to put this on. And I was, like, filming it in the locker room.

Vraib hits me up, like, maybe 9 o'clock at night. It was a little bit later. I'm sitting there and watching something. Right before bed. Yeah, and he's like, he sent me, he sent me the link. And then he goes, you think this was smart putting out essentially like, you know, something injure related on the internet. Media rules.

Guidelines. Not rules. Yeah, guidelines. I might have asked something back, just feel it out. But just like my heart's beating right now, my heart was pounding out of my fucking chest, dude. Yeah. Like, God damn it.

Like he's going to, you know, I'm going to be an example tomorrow. Like, I don't know if he's actually, you know, in, like, like mad or not like that because right that's the whole like in out like Taylor I like I like that however Taylor was doing that thing because our dynamic was always we were always boys outside of the season and anytime I'm your player in the season completely different it's just like there's like we had that breakfast remember that breakfast at the renaissance yeah you got me the full continental yeah you bought that continental breakfast for me yeah I had some Cheerio yeah fresh fruit I remember that cereal he's

took me around town, the city's. This is like, he was trying to court you to come in. Recruing. Re-agency visit. He's courted me around. Like, you know, the president, the playoffs. It's popping off on Broadway, like it goes down here. Day 30. He's hitting his. Quick Continental, 15-minute recruiting spiel. You do the same thing for DeAndre Hopkins? Here you go.

Don't. It still hurts just as much. But yeah, there was always that dynamic. So when he sent me that text, because I don't hear a lot out of him unless there's just something funny that Vray wants to come over and like say that in his mind he's telling me as a joke but in my mind I'm thinking like I got to make sure I'm a player in front of him versus the person he probably thinks that I could be like behind the phone or something like that so he'd come up and like tell me a joke and then I realize like I'm like you know I laugh or whatever but I'm just thinking man this motherfucker plays an insane level

of mental warfare with me yes then when he texts me I don't know if he like thought it was funny or he thought, like, no, I'm actually pissed off, but I know you guys. Like, I know, you know, you just didn't know. So I was terrified to go on the meeting the next day. And he did. I mean, of course, I see things that you guys put out there. And then I think when there's really good ones and they're really funny ones, then I'll take the Twitter once every six months to.

Yeah, you do gracious with your presence. Throw one back across. Yeah, I feel like your Twitter just exists to body mirror will. That's it. We've been getting your followers up, though. You're welcome. I don't. Because at first you had it.

You had the daddy's game. giving you clicks. I'm giving you views. Don't use my name for followers. You guys would tag me and all this shit. I'm like, stop tagging me. But now that it's... Get off the Tiff. Now it's shifted to where it's like... Stronger, Will. He's like...

No, no. We got a fucking... We gotta fucking... We gotta get this man down. Now it shifted to where we can shout him out and help get, you know, our favorite head coach up some followers. We're helping the Titans. We're helping the Titans from a distance. But DeAndre Hopkins.

Is it official? Is it official? Not official. But he's coming. I would imagine that as soon as he signs, it'll be official. I mean, yes. Yeah, he's coming. It's officially official, unofficially official, unofficially. It's unofficially, I think we've agreed to terms.

In principle. Was there, we talked about on the bus, was there a fear because of how Julio Jones worked out, getting a guy like DeAndre, different players, obviously, different people, different mindsets. Again, anytime in free agency, you know, I think, you know. Yet you have to have some working knowledge of the player. You know, they are as a person, who they are in the building, whether one of your coaches coached them, whether you knew them. Because just for the million reasons that we talked about with the culture

and what's it going to be like and what the expectations are. You know, sometimes free agency is great. Sometimes, you know, it's not. So there's always things that you have to be careful of, you know, that just spend a lot of time with these guys before you draft them, whether it's combine, Zoom, spend a day with them here in town where you bring them in or you go work them out on their campus. And you just don't have that sometimes in free agency unless you've been with them.

So we've got some coaches on staff that have been with Hop, me included. So we obviously feel good about it. He's obviously a stud player. But was there any like hesitation given some of the high profile free agents? you've signed in the past that didn't necessarily work out? And then do you have to basically de-recrues yourself from that thinking so that way you can probably... Yeah, no, I mean, I don't think whatever happened in the past with another player is going to apply

to this particular player. And if things come up, we'll have to, you know, work through them. But, I mean, we wouldn't have signed them or wanted to sign them if we weren't confident that, you know, he'd help us. Did you talk to him about blocking? We've seen the Houston tape. I can see in the team meeting now. Yeah.

I mean, I think that... What are we doing here? Again, you get what you emphasize. You get what you emphasize. Yeah. And I think that, you know, I'm confident that he'll do what we ask him to do. And certainly that's not going to be his number one job is the block. It's not going to be trailing's number one job.

It's not going to be, you know, Kyle's number one job. So, you know, we have to do a better job. I can coach speak you to death, but we've got to protect the quarterback so that we can, you know, throw the ball efficiently. You don't have to throw it 50 times to win, but you've got to throw it efficient. Yeah. A lot of noise saying the Titans are in a rebuild year. Um, I don't ever think that in this league. I don't. I'm never going to believe that. I think that our guys will prepare, our guys will fight and guys will, I think we've got a chance to beat anybody. How do you feel like this roster is different this year than has been, like, you know?

Well, I mean, we had to move on from veterans. I mean, you get to a point where that's what happens in this league, whether it's me getting traded to Kansas City, you know, going into my 13th year or having to move on from some players or making decisions. I mean, that's how this thing goes. And everybody's aware of it. So I think that's the first thing, you know what I mean? We've got some veteran players that are.

I've been with for, you know, the five years that I've been here that we had to move on from and other players as well. So I think that's probably the biggest, you know, it would be the biggest difference. But every year, there's always change every year. When you were, when the whole A.J. Brown thing was going down. He was in contract negotiations. You had a press conference take as long as I'm the head coach, AJ Brown will be on this team. And then all of a sudden he's obviously on the Eagles.

Sure. What was that? Well, I mean, obviously, as a head coach, you want every player that you think can help you win on the team. And certainly had a great relationship and still have a relationship with AJ. Yeah. But then sometimes in the business of professional sports, you know, things go a different direction. And that's where they went. Happy for AJ.

Happy for his family. And, you know, we got compensated and now we'll have to, you know, Keep doing it without him, just like we tried last year. What's the war room like in a situation like that? When that night is unfolding and happening, obviously they have cams in there. They try and capture reactions, but what's it like in that kind of situation?

No, I mean, a lot of those conversations go. You want to put the mice on that or something? You're all right? Tendinitis. Yeah. I should have brought my knee sleeve. That, um, the, uh, new, like the monarchs, man.

You got to be ready to go at any moment. You got some wide feet, brother. Yeah. And pizza feet. So a lot of those conversations go on. Some of those go on before like you're on the clock, right? So we traded whatever we traded this year. And, you know, you kind of have conversations and, you know, that's, those don't just happen in the 12 minutes or 10 minutes that you're on the clock.

A lot of those times it's, you know, talked about before. and, you know, ultimately, once they were on the clock, you know, they made the deal. What's the, do you have any more on, AJ? I want to, like, I want you to take me in that warm. They're like, what was it back and forth? Do you remember, like, their first offer? Who called who? Um, I would say that everybody calls everybody in this league two weeks leading up to the draft.

Yeah. I promise you. Coaches will talk. Coach starts at the combine. I think GMs will start calling each other. So to say like somebody called somebody, I don't ever buy that because they all, you know, are talking about, hey, you know, you're willing to move up, you're willing to move back. And then you just start trying to, you know, figure out where things may go or players or draft picks. And then, you know, there's conversations all the way up to the draft.

And then it's, ultimately it's, you know, if we like the deal, we'll call you when we're on the clock. Does it usually happen where if the Titans are on the clock, are you guys more likely to receive calls or send out calls? Well, I think it's hard to send out calls when you're on the clock because then you're probably, you know, I mean, then you pretty much, I don't know what kind of value you're going to get. Yeah, you just refer back. You just have to look and see what's on the board and see, you know,

what somebody's willing to come up and give you for a pick. All right. You know what I mean? It's like if we're sitting there at, you know, 57 or whatever, and somebody has a player, you know, they'll call a couple out. Like, hey, if our guy's there, would you guys be willing to move back? Sure. You know, and if they don't call, you assume that you're, the player that they wanted got picked,

you know, and then it's like, well, who are you taking? Well, we're not, you know, maybe we want the same guy. Yeah. You play that game. So that's kind of how it works, you know, in those later rounds. When you were leading up to the game against the Eagles, obviously you probably had a big emphasis on they have a great receiving core they have a great offense across the board when you get in the game and you see a jay doing what a j's doing is there

a part of you that's like man good for him uh maybe not that maybe not right then and there yeah fuck no you know i mean but um because i try to look yeah i mean i try to look back and see you know that game was a one score game and and we jump off sides in the red zone and we get pushed back and we don't, you know, finish the drive off. And then it just kind of snowballed from there. You know, the quarterback got hit and, you know, fumbled. And, you know, we couldn't do anything to stop them on big plays. But I don't know if I looked at it right, that and there.

I wouldn't say I'm happy for AJ, but not certainly that day. He's a touchdown. He's a sported touchdown. And they called it back. Not that day. And then he did another one. Yeah. I mean, I'm sitting there like, holy shit, this guy's just on a mission.

You know how AJ is. He only needs, like, someone to say something a little off, let alone getting traded to feel like, all right, I'm about to go crazy on these guys. Yeah, I mean, I would imagine that knowing him that maybe there was, you know, motivation. Again, it's negotiations in pro sports, like, you've been through it. It's sometimes they go in different directions. After that game, the transition starts to happen for John gets fired. You guys bring in Rand.

You talk about that transition as the Titans were moving on from a GM that had been here with you the whole time to finding somebody else. Yeah, I mean, it was a great process. I mean, it was an inclusive process. Brought it a lot of great candidates. I interviewed some people in-house that had been. in here and then, you know, ultimately, um, went with Rand and, uh, I thought Amy made an amazing decision and it's been awesome to work with, brought in some great guys, brought in Chad Brinker and Anthony Robinson, you know, so continue to communicate, continue to talk,

uh, work through the spring. You know, I thought it was, the spring was really good. I thought we got a lot of stuff done. I thought, you know, our ability to work through the draft was really good. So just looking forward to see where we go here in training camp was it weird moving on from a gym in the middle of the season i mean we all work for somebody you know i mean and so it's like i i've got a i support this organization i support amy john hired you know i mean he was partly responsible ultimately amy had that final decision but john was a general manager when i got the job here so a ton of respect for him and a job that he did um you know and i think We all wish we wouldn't happen.

But that's, again, we're in professional sports and we know what we signed up for. When you're looking at a situation during this season after the... When did you guys get so serious and all this shit? Well, we had fun. We've been having fun. We'd be able to have more fun if you fucking come on once a year, but you hold us hostage every now and then to come on here. By the way, for those of you listening, this is the only individual

that's ever asked for money to come on this podcast. But what kind of money that I asked for? You wanted us to donate. For charity. For charity. And the boys showed up. Yeah, it turned into that, but. Yeah.

You didn't turn into that. You come from a great school of fucking negotiating. I know, yes, I know. I'm here, aren't I? You are here. You guys stepped up. But you're talking about the serious. Indy attire, too, which I think is awesome.

I did this for you. Like the man just, like you're a cartoon. If people see you like this, you just show up on the bus like this. I did this for you. I fucking love it. We get coat jersey out. Show him your gift. Year 10.

Joey and the boys. Joey, Jerome. Jerome stole that on today. So. I wish you to put year for the last name. I thought you'd want people, you know, they probably recognize you. They probably recognize Compton more than they do your face.

But anyway. To answer your question, we get Coach Vry Bonn, like, you know. Go? That's wrong. We got to ask. trust me. QB situation. Yeah, we can, we can.

Do you want to talk about that? We get to have fun. It's next on your list. No, that usually, that's like a teleprompter for dummies. It's a reminder. It's a reminder. We got to make sure. We got to make sure we get the, we got to, we got to make sure we get the PFT, the ESPNs.

Like they're fucking, hey, Mike Braveloon busts with the boys. He talked about this. Yeah. We have a job to do. Yeah, we have a job to do. We have a job to do. Green Bay game. Obviously, after the Green Bay game with Todd Downing, that happened.

I'm not going to ask about that because we know that. like the chronicle of Todd and how everything happened. But what was your process? Because obviously Todd was let go. Like when all that is happening, where does your mind go as far as like figuring out? Because some people are saying, hey, you got to fire this guy right now.

Obviously it happened after the season, like from inside the walls of the facility. Yeah, I mean, I think that those things are two separate situations, Taylor. I mean, we all needed to be better on offense. You know what I mean? We all did. Our players and our coaches, starting with me,

needed to be better on offense. Then again, the next situation that you're referring to is we're all responsible at some point for our choices, our decisions, and things that we do. So I think those are two separate things. I didn't feel like the right thing to do was to make a move, you know, at that point in time in the season.

And when the season ended, I felt like, you know, we needed to have some change in leadership on offense, and that's what we did. I think that's enough serious stuff. If you were to coach for... No, that's okay. But, I mean, we all do. I mean, every day it happens. You know, we try to talk about the decisions that we make, the people we surround ourselves with, and what the habits that we create.

And so the trifecta. The trifecta. What was the fun question you're about to ask? Oh, that. Do you remember a trifecta? No. Did you sit in our meetings? Rape, again, we can go back in our text messages.

The very first time I impersonated you, you texted that night. After that, you forgot everything else I've said. Like, oh, at least I know you're paying attention. Even last year I came in. It was tough because the guy, they, I thought you would be a little, come a little stronger. What do you mean? I thought you had a little bit more. I thought I had it with her eye heart, Jeff Simmel.

shirt like that shit was funny. It was funny. Pulling up the tape. It was funny. But I think he left a little bit out there on the field. Left a little meat on the bone? I think so. What do you think?

I mean, give me an honest evaluation. Me personally. It was hard to top year one. Yes. And last year it looked to me like you were just laying up too much. Like you weren't like going for the fucking green. Well, in my defense, hang on. I'm asking.

Let me. I'll do this. You're right. I think. Will being in the training camp the whole time the first time he did it, he knows all the repetitive things you've been saying. This time he's kind of plopped into a situation, getting some tape.

And he's like, do I fall back on the same stuff? Because he knows, like, hey, Rape's a little bit different. Right. He handles stuff a little bit differently. So I'm sure. New guys, Stretch is having to feed me. Like, I'm like, hey, what are some? I don't know.

You learn names and all that stuff. It's a lot of like. I thought it was really good. And especially the new guys that didn't see the first time, I thought they really loved it. Good. I don't know if it was really good. Right.

It's one of those things. You know what I think? You know what I think pops it off? Ripping a jewel. Mm-hmm. Not doing that. Why not? We stopped.

We, when we, we stopped? Yeah. He's saying he stopped. And your hands been shaking the whole time you've been in here. I know you haven't stopped. This is my shooting. This is my shooting hand. We were like, I came in the building very saying, hey, do you want to be coach variable again?

Like coming to training camp. Yeah, but hold on. Back up even more than that. that, like a week and a half before that, I went into Braves' office. And I was like, hey, we should get Will. It's so funny when he comes in expecting no and gets yes. No, you said, I'll think about it. You gave me the whole, I'll think about it.

When I say I'll think about it. Kind of like, you shoot me to the door. I'll either know or I'll think about it. Yeah. Shoot me to the door. And apparently he calls you like right after that. He's like, it kind of has a low voice talking too. Like, hey, Taylor just left him off. I didn't want to tell him.

I wanted to say no, but then tell you to set it up. So before the rookie show, I'm like standing out there with. Stretch. Like, stretch stands out there and waits for everybody to get in. And so it's just like, get inside. And like, usually we kind of hang out for a couple minutes. And he's like, go. And I'm like, why is this man pushing me so much?

And I literally had no idea there. You were surprised. I got fired up when you walked in. I got fired up. I was like, yo, hey, that's my boy. For the boys. He's like, this the guy is telling you about. This is the guy was telling you about.

The rookies did like a bad. It was an all right show. There was a couple of good skits in there. They did a bad bustling with the boys bit. And they did a couple of things. It was like, yeah, it's funny, I guess. Right. But then you came in a, you locate, save the show.

So was it the best you've ever done? I agree with you, no. But you did save the show. It was that bad of a show. Yeah, I mean, it was fun to do. I was nervous to do it because I'm like, hey, Stretch, you understand. Like, I need actual material from the inside. How sweet that new team meeting room?

Sick. It's amazing. And then we're back, like, putting it all together, like, going through film clips and everything else. Like, you could storyline it this way, that way. we're making up. You know, I was like, hey, let me get an I love Jeff Simmons shirt to wear in there. We have him. We're about to go out.

I was like, hey, brave, that was the one thing I wanted to clear with him. I was like, can I get one of your jewels? Like, can I hit a jewel when I get out there? He's like, no. Because I didn't have him in there. He's like, Jen said it too. Like, why not? Why don't you let?

No. And he was like, I let you in the building. Like, take what you got right here. Enough. Enough, enough. All right, man, whatever. That was a fun time, dude. Had a little lunch after.

Broke a little guy. Red. Yeah. Guys were trying to talk me out of the first time around, the very first one we did in training camp. The first time around, crushed. I still laugh at that shit. I still laugh. Because that one was like, I still laughed.

I didn't know. Like, nobody kind of knew. And I had a couple vets who were like, hey, you sure you want to do this? This is, you know. If you're making fun of the head coach, I'm thinking, yeah, I guess you're right. But that's what I'm going off. Which, when I say last year was good, I'm going off of that shit, which I still laugh at that. That shit, the first time you did it.

Bro. I don't even know what's happening. People were still laughing. into your next bit. And it's like, well, sh, quiet down. He's going again.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody's still laughing from the first joke, but you can't hear the beginning of the next one and just like, oh, everybody,

quiet down, he's keep going. Did you laugh during the show? I was in the corner laughing my ass on. Yeah, I didn't see him. I know you came down and you said something like 6 a.m.

Will or something like that. Like he hit him with a little something. I was down there laughing in the corner. It was funny. Yeah. Pulling up the old tape too, JPP. Just to body me one more time.

Yeah. You know what I wish to pee. Dude. No, he hit me with the... He hit me in the club. And I thought he went away and he hit me another way. Spun me. That was when I got the Vrable.

We're paying you for this? I thought, oh, I'm gone. I pat you on the back. You shit in my hand. Yeah. That was like, those are the things that you're like, man, camp. These poor boys, these rookies have no idea. When you go out to camp, those bad plays, when they go up, it's going to be...

The bad and the shit that gets you beat. Put you in a fucking blender. It's terrible feelings. Those are just reminders. Yeah, I'll tell you what. Those are teaching moments. But you know how the ego is in the NFL. Here's a, here's a funny teaching moment I look back on.

There is an undrafted free agent. Maybe he was maybe an ACC school. I don't know. But it seemed like he got paid a little bit of a signing bonus. I believe he was on D-Line at the time. I know this story. And Brave, you know, you're in there. You're hitting the tape post-practice and everybody's assholes a little tight.

You're like, man, am I about to make this fucking tape? Like, you always hate it because, you know, You're watching tape. We're in the AC. It's easy. Like, you just, you're at your most vulnerable. And this poor soul, like, either didn't get his hands inside or something. He had been, he had put a few seconds.

No, he got the shit knocked out of him. He got rolled up. He stacked a few bad reps or practices together. And Braves, like, you need to go home back to the hotel tonight. And ask yourself if you even want to fucking play this game. What? I mean, at least remember Dickerson? Yeah.

much as you hated him because he fought every place, but he fought you. Right, but he fought you. Yeah. And he, and he wanted to be there and he acted like whether he, he fought you. And the guy, he wanted to fight Taylor, you got into it after it. And I was like, okay, at least we can work with something. At least we can coach that. You know what I'm saying? There's like a passion, there's a fire, whatever. That's all we're looking for. What did you do? What did you do? Were you drafted? No. Right. So how did you act? your first couple years to try to make it.

Fucking grit and spit. Exactly. Prison rules, dude. Find the biggest guy and fight him right away. Well, no? No, I'm not picking on it. I'm not trying to pick a fight with Trent Williams. Well, no.

You know what I mean? But, but yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. It's hard. Like, that's what you have to do. Like, what's funny and you're just like, the poor soul, like, because Vrab, if he gets you for some reps in a row to where he can put a mini

highlight of you up. Low light. Yeah, low light of you up. You make it sound like they're all negative. They're not all negative. They're not all negative. This is us reliving our fun moments of Coach. No one remembers the losses.

Hey, take it easy. Take it easy. I know, but you're paying this picture just like. No, Braves, listen, you put the highlights up. You say, hey, we like this. This guy, that's good technique. So and so. When you ran off the ball,

when you ran off the ball and you were strong with your backside hand, I put it on there. And I was very grateful for that. Yeah. But I'm sure. When you walked to the line of scrimmage, I put that on there. Yeah.

Yeah. That is such a dumb rule, by the way. I feel I can say that now. Why are we running to the line of scrimmage? Because we want to... It's tempo. Yeah, it's tempo, but you can... That's the tone.

Look at everybody else in the NFL. Remember that one game? I said, we're going to fucking speed break 70 times in a row. Yeah. You're like 70. I'm like, yeah, we're going to start conditioning right now. We didn't, but we didn't. Obviously, we didn't do a speed break 70 times.

But we did it like 30. That's the change of pace you want. Let the boys walk up to the line. It's a waste of energy. You see teams that have won the Super Bowl. Every other team doesn't, do they walk up to the line. They get set because receivers got to run out. We got time to get up there.

And then you do a speed. break. It changed the tempo, puts a defense in a blender. There's a difference between walking, sauntering, and brisk walking to the line. You're not asking. Yeah, but you're not asking for a brisk walk either. You're walking. You're sauntered when I first got here.

Like you wanted everybody, and then while you're still getting set, we're snapping the fucking ball. When a pitch goes to the mound, he takes his time to throw some fucking heat. I was getting ready to throw my heat. Exactly. But when we had the penalty, yeah. Lost my shit. Jet's game. No quash.

God damn. That was when I was like, fuck, now I have nothing to stand a leg on. That pissed me off. Because we called a... He's fizzing around in his stance. Well, I don't really stop moving in my stance at all. Remember when you go, remember you'd go. Get them.

And then Sarah came over and then said, Taylor, if you keep moving your hand and he jumps, I'm going to get you. But I've never, I never heard of call him. I know? And you did say, hey, you just keep doing what you want. But if you get called, that's on you. And then you're done.

And then you're done. But there was never a talk about jogging up to the line. No, that was a non-negotiable. But I'm saying, you get into it. I love how you're in September. He did pay attention. Even though it didn't seem like he was, the non-negotiables, he knows with those. Yeah, I'm secretly coachable.

I know that. Not secretly. You, uh, come on, well, you're running out of time, Will. I'm doing God's work right. We're going into, we're going to good time and a half here in a second. You think so? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey.

Whoa. For three hours. You were late. You didn't read the fine print. Time and a half. You were late, brother. That didn't start. That started when I sat down.

Oh. We're going to time and a half boy. You better hustle. Yeah, but then we had to be with the mic. You're about 25 minutes into this podcast. Oh, fuck. We are. You are.

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He was golfing, dude. I know. And you know what's so wild? It went a lot longer than I thought. I was, after I finished. and I saw it was still going on. I'm like, holy shit. Can I even think about going, showing up, like, without a drink?

No chance, dude. We would have been, you'd have been like, I'm never heard of you guys again. Carnage. Yeah, we were black. It was wild. And the rookies were in a blender, too, when they knew you were coming. Like, were they? Oh, yeah.

I'd be like, hey, I let me go up to him. I was like, I know if we're able to talk to you guys. He's going to come. It's okay to have a drink in front of your coach. I'm going to go. This is the NFL. It's all good. Pro football.

Pro football. As long as you guys show up, and yes, if you have a bad practice, he'll probably bring up, you drink it beer Olympics, but it's going to be all right. No doubt. And as I'm like walking away,

and one of them, I'm not going to say their name. He's like, I don't even know if I'm going to drink today. I'm going to wait until he leaves. I'm telling you, bro, mental warfare.

It is. The mental warfare. You kind of need it. You have to have it. Do we have any finishing thoughts on jogging up to the line, how we can just kind of shut that down? I'm not talking for me.

I'm talking for me. I'm talking for ruse. I'm talking for... They don't complain. The nice thing is about them. They don't bitch about it. Yeah, I'm the voice. I'm their voice.

Well, it's an old voice. That's the reason why it's gone. It's gone now. There's no more voice. He said it's an old voice. Did you ever last year think about, like, let's run it back? With... Me?

No. You? Oh. Titan started... I started to drop some games. It's like, hey, where's the... Where's the... juice that we need.

We were thinking about, like, just a little pick me up, like post Thanksgiving, get it back up and get, you know. It went through your mind. Having some joke. It always goes through my mind. Those long November days, it gets dark early. Yeah. Juice in the building.

You know, depending on your mood, you could be PMSing a little bit more than others. You know, it just, what is it? It just didn't work out. Yeah. Just didn't work out. Yeah. I had to weigh my options. Where are you training at?

Right now? Boost. Same spot I was training at when you texted, hey, are you ready to go? Or have you had one too many rib-eyes? That's a good crew out there, isn't there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You talk about Titans guys?

Yeah, just pro-guise. I'm there six in the morning. I don't see anybody. You get there early. Yeah. I'm talking wake up at 5.30. You know the deal. 6 a.m.

So that way you get back to do the dad thing. Putting that work in still. Working? Oh, yeah. You're doing them half-casters or what are you doing? You need me to hit a punt set for you. We could do a little workout right outside. Yeah, drag hand.

Need to keep my base a little wider. I know that's what you always coach me on. You get turned. You get turned sideways. But honestly, like, you always talked about the punch. I, from my skill set, felt like I was always better absorbing. Because, like, you always made fun of me on, my T-Rex arms. I disagree.

Like, you never want to, like, absorb when you have. have to go cover. You know what I mean? Like Taylor, if he's playing left tackle, like, okay, you can give a little ground and you can sink, sink. But Taylor doesn't have to shed and go 45, 50 yards now with Stoney. Guys got a hammer leg. I feel you.

I'm just saying like not everybody's built with arms like that you have. Right, but you could still, I mean, Bates punched. You got enough tip on me. I had four in one game, New York, 17 and 0. 17 to nothing. What are you talking about? I'm saying I've never given up a punt. I'm never giving up a block.

No, I wouldn't saying that you gave up a block. You're like, hey, DB, he shocks and he does. I was like, okay, you got tape with somebody who absorbs too. Right, but I'm talking about like the coverage. I'm trying to get you out there faster. DB's faster than you down there. You got to play to your skill set, brother. I'm trying to flow.

I'm trying to let somebody go down there and mess it up. And then overlap over the top. They, what is it? Shoot the bow. They pull their trigger. They miss. It stops their feet. I got a little bit more to work with.

Come in here and clean them up. Yeah. Get that tackle. Get the stat sheet. So do you really have nine? What's your 401 case? Is it say nine? It's nine. Yeah. Why? Did you have like a P squad year or what did you have two?

It's only nine? You had a P squad year and then after a few years. I had one P squad year. It turns into accredited year after you get vested. So the P squad does count now. After you get vested, they roll it back and then count the practice squad year. So are you counting the practice squad year? Oh, 100% of the time.

I'm going to let you in on a little inside ball here. This is not a road you want to go down with Will. Will and I got to an argument about this. I was like, so it's really eight. Right. That's where I'm at right now. I know. I hate the things that I agree with you.

And I got a full wrestling match about this. Relationship was. Why do you think eight? Oh, fuck. Here you go. Because it's you got to go out on the field for. I did. Three games.

On Sunday. Three games. I went out on Sunday. One tackle. Stat sheet. One game? 2013. Yeah, you need three games.

You need three games. So you think you need to play three games to be considered. Oh, you play in the NFL for a year. Yes. I think you're wrong. We can agree to disagree. I mean, I know what my pension says. It's nine years.

You're in the PA. You get the rules. So it's nine years. Because your ego wants to tell me it's only eight. I would argue that a practice squad year is even harder. I was not doing my ego. But like, if I played one year and was one game and I was healthy, I wouldn't be like, I wouldn't count that as a year.

Why not? You not proud of it? It doesn't, no, it's like playing one hole of golf and be like, yeah, golf today. Walking off the course. That's golfing. There's 18 holes. There's 17 games. You wouldn't play one game and then leave and say, I played a little fill this year.

Now, I don't, you'll have to help me out with golf. Your boys just chirped you. They laugh when I said, if you're like playing one hole and walk off. They enjoy this. They enjoy this. But I'll say in the golfing world, if you go throughout the entire year of tournaments or whatever, and one guy who's an amateur gets to play in one pro golf. tournament, they are now considered a pro golfer for that year.

No, I don't think they are. Are you a pro golfer? Fuck, no. You know what I mean? Like, you're losing me here. I don't know where your argument is. I just thought you got hurt. Like, if you got hurt, all yours is this.

You were able body. Here's yours. You were able body. No, I don't think that's right. That's your argument. No. My argument is, is if I was healthy and only played one game of a season, I wouldn't in my mind count that as a season.

I would count that as one game. Did you play in the NFL this year? Did you play? Yeah, there you go. Brad, did you play in the NFL this year? And you played one game and you got a tackle on kickoff? I would say, kind of. But I was on a practice squad and I got caught up one game.

But, I mean, I really wouldn't like want to like promote that. And I said, brother, don't worry about that. You fucking did it. You got that 401K. You got that burble. discourage yourself. You got that Burtbell pension plan? Yeah. Be proud of it. I don't think I could.

I don't think. I would say we're looking for year nine. I got to get a New Jersey. No, we don't have to. I'll tell you what we could do. I didn't, they changed that. You sent me to a deal. They pro-act. They went back and retrofit that, uh, that practice squad thing. That wasn't always like that. Are you talking about how they rolled those in? Yeah. I don't think that was ever like that.

I want to say Lorenzo Alexander was, he was, that was a pioneer for something like that because he had two practice wide years they only count one of them but uh no that's awesome i mean for guys that then once you become vested they go back and count that year for your pension yeah yeah so nine years looking for 10 nine years we had you do you want to work out we had 10 do you want to work out what do you mean like do like a workout you know i mean like we can set up a workout you're saying tightens bringing me in for a workout or yeah they're Yeah, I mean, or I could go, like, you know, work you out a boost, watch you a boost, see what it looks like in the morning.

Can we record it and be like, this is for Abe giving Will Compton a private workout for the potential of year 10? Yeah, I mean, you can put it on internet, extra 25, maybe 30, 40, whatever to count. Now it's like out of nowhere. For the kids, man. We can probably do 25 on that because I think are fine for 10 minutes late is 25. Yeah. No, it's not. It'd be tough to tell you why.

How many guys that I find? How many guys that I find on their first time being late? You got a warning letter. You got a mulligan. That is a breakfast ball. You didn't show up to beer Olympics. That strike one, two, and three right there. Did I not communicate?

Yeah, but still a warning. You're still getting the warning letter. I communicated. But after the show started. I communicated. It was not after. I'll look at my, you know what? We got receipts.

I'll check it right now. If I get this, if I get this text after 12, we got to have a conversation. Well, let's go back to this trial real quick. I get this route? No, you, no. You just sign me? You don't even have to do it.

No. Here's how we can do. You know, you just signed me? No, because I don't think that those legs will make it through to workout. Probably right. You are probably correct. What do you think about these legs? Like you've been working some squats?

Hey, that's a good compliment. Appreciate that. Been grinding? Okay. I'm glad you noticed. You work out with anybody or just by yourself? By myself. Do you think you get enough out of it?

Are you self-motivated enough to really push yourself? Yeah. Like you need to, like you did back in Nebraska. Cornhusker candy? Those are different. Cornhusker candy? 1157. No, I was so. 1157 got a call into an emergency meeting at the golf course.

So I text every afternoon. That's almost like I'm still going to come and do a show. Correct. Now you know how I feel when dudes text me that three minutes before the team meeting. And you'd probably still send him a letter of. But as a head man, you still got to make a decision. We're making the decision. We don't like that.

Chick will wait outside for him. Five minutes away from me, not three minutes. So you'd have been late regardless. I wasn't coming from home. Richland is by our home as well. I know. Tea time was noon. What do you think about a one-day contract?

For who? And then what would you do after the one day was over? Like have a formal announcement or? Yeah, like press conference at the Titans facility. You there, you talk on my behalf, talking about a player I was, potential ring of honor candidate. But he's somebody who wants to step down. He doesn't like the spotlight.

You only played like 14 games for us, didn't you? Crazy how much of an impact I've made. I know. In the community. It's probably why you guys sign a bus. You see free agents that did pan out. Because there are examples. Yeah, I'll get back to you.

I mean, I think that that's a good idea. We could certainly try to raise some money for charity and try to have a one-day contract doing Taylor. Do you like a little combo platter? I'd like to have my own. I think Taylor deserves his own moment. You speaking for Taylor? you speak

you speak for yourself You're right, you're right I think I deserve my own moment Okay, I disagree Why is that? Because You feel like you got to like What, catch 17 touchdowns

And have sacks and shit This league To like have their own For as much impact as you could possibly Make in 14 games you did But you need more than 14 games To have a longer day- Number one, 14 games is not

That's not, you're just saying that I am just saying that However many was it. I don't know, I don't know, maybe in the 20s. You think it was 20? I don't know. Well, you had 6.18.

I mean, I was, you didn't cut me in the first year. Okay. Well, I was just being funny when I said 14. They're about to find out. Yeah, I understand your humor. I get that you was, you know what? There we go. Oh, there's 12 games.

12 and 12. 24. 24? Hey, that's worth a. You put 12 together that 20 year? Hell yeah. Thank you. you thought you had me cut it on the Peace Squad for a while.

Something happened and somebody got hurt and I had to all of a sudden, like, do one walkthrough for Lamar Jackson and that offense. You ended up playing. Jayon breaks his fucking elbow in the game. But you ended up playing the Bronco game too. But he came in there Ravens. Dude, you remember that run game? Yeah.

It was brutal. Pullers, quarterback. Nuts. Just find a guy with the ball. That's got to be a hard thing to do. But he did. I will give you credit. Now that you told me that Jayon snapped his elbow and were like, Will, where's his helmet?

Vray was like, Vray was everything he could do, just not get me on the field. Oh, Jesus, God. You're a locker room guy. Blue guy. Yeah, your place is not necessarily on the field. It's in the locker room. He's a glue guy. You're a morale guy.

You're like a jester. What if we let you do like a bus, like a remote bus and doing it from the locker room one day? Do what? Like do a bus from the locker room. That's a great idea, but does that have a place? No, I was thinking about inviting you to the office and doing it in the office. We would have absolutely done it. But as you told me, my code access is retired.

I know. I would have to meet you. I'd have to let us in. Let's security know. My code will not work anymore. Compton and Luan will be here. Yeah, but I was figured I wanted to come see the new digs. What else?

Speaking of one day, one day. One day. You excited to speak for me someday? Where are we speaking? Whatever when I do, whenever you? when I eventually retire. You haven't? No, what?

Oh. I'm available. I'm sorry. We talked about the knees. We know where the knees are at. Yes. Anything you asked me, I'll talk you. Yeah, I want you to...

We're going to have a party? I want you to gas you up. We're going to have a party? Yeah, we're going to get hammered on the 50-R line of the Nissan Stadium. I sent you my press release the one time, the one night. You're like, oh, I don't get a press release. Yeah, well, you did say some really cool things about Ben. I kind of did get salty.

That was in my own emotions about that. And my press release, I came back with some heat. And I love that we're talking about this. Sometimes I feel a little awkward in that chat. It's like you'll have me as like a buffer to come in. When you two are talking, I'll just kind of sit there and watch the show. Like get the popcorn out. And I always feel like this is like the fucking British Bulldogs.

And I'm like just the one guy. It's like tag team. You probably think we're sitting next to each other. Right. You don't? You do a great job. You don't live with him? You do a good job of deferring.

You just, you do a good job of like, You have your own place? Here in town? He took me in during the free agency Part of the first year, but yes, I do have my own place now. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you.

Thank you. I have a family. I knew that, but I thought they all just stayed with. Yeah, we all just stay at the Lawan residence. That would be tight. I would enjoy that. It's like beer Olympics every day. Man.

You didn't miss out on a hell of a deal. I could tell. It was awesome. What was I talking about the, uh, You're probably talking about some with the group chat. No, oh, yeah, you do a good job of, if Will and I start coming at you, you'll... Then go at one. You do a good job of just putting a dead stop on it.

Which, Will and I will then text each other just one-on-one about it. I bet. But it's like, enough's enough. If I'm going in on one guy, I don't need the other guy, like... A team. But I don't feel like in that situation, a teamwork, really, it's supposed to be like, I'm looking for you to enjoy my joke on Will. Just like in the event that you would make a joke about Will, I would enjoy it as the other person.

You're looking for the three of us. I am. I'm just looking like a little pat on the back as opposed to like. I can respect that. Well, Braves coming after us. We got to like do something. He's mad at it as for some reason. Yeah, I can see that.

Boys unite, you know what I mean? Whatever. So what's the next step here for you guys, man? Where are we going with this thing? With the bus? Yeah. It's like a tiny facility during camp. No, we do got a, we got a training camp tour coming up.

we're going to a couple. Just a couple, like two. Two, is that a tour? Does that count of this two stops count as a tour? More than one. Anything more than one. Okay.

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That was Zig? Zig is the homie. You're the homie. Where else are going? You're going to... Why don't you slide into Patriots when you guys are in New England? So Bill can get us in? One word answers? Yeah, I get you in. Will Bill do an interview with us?

No. Then what we're doing? Like, no chance at all, you think? None. What do you think we have a better shot at? Nick Saban or Bill Belichick? Sabin. What's Saban? You know why?

Recruiting. Yeah, he's right. What do you think? Like, what is Bill Belichick in your phone under? Bill. Daddy. Is it Dad? It's Bill.

Papa? Just Bill? Just Bill. Is that the one nickname you hate the most? Bill or Vrabes? The nickname. Mine? Daddy? Baby Belichick.

I'd never even heard that. Oh, Vrabb, you've heard that. No, I haven't. Patriots of the South? Yeah. You guys, is that? No, no, it's not a thing. I probably pulled a video up.

Yeah, I don't hear baby Belichick much. That wasn't a play on me. Yeah, yeah, not me throwing that at you. Right. It had to feel good, though, in 19 playing the Patriots and kind of using rules to your advantage. It had to be a nice, fuck you. Felt great, whatever we can win. Big game.

You're talking about like on special teams? Yeah, the punt. They do the delay a game, the off sides. They literally changed the rule the next year. Point, dude. And you know, Ravens over there chewing on his gum, probably a nicotine gum. Got that fucking looking at bills losing his mind. You had to be.

Yeah, you had to be fucking stoked on that. Did that fire you up? Yeah, that was a fire. Stretch was having a good time in the, uh, in the, in the headset. Yeah. Stretch was. Was that far, were you fired getting fired? Well, like, not getting fired up.

I was excited. I was excited. I would go on a road and be a big on a, Oh, God. Dude, you're like, you're listening. Hey, ask us some real questions. This is a mentor. A guy you played for and then worked under.

He's known as one of the greatest treasures of all time. And you beat him in his own game. When we talked about going up there, I said they have lost two games in January in like the last 15 fucking years. So it was a big deal. I mean, to be able to help the team win a damn game. We've always put the Patriots well. Win a damn game and also like, you know, Patriots have always done. Oh shit.

Going back there. He spent eight years there. You know what I mean? It's like... Finding the little details and the rules. Right. I mean, it was, of course it was a big deal. I mean, Tyler was able to come.

Carter was up there. You know what I mean? It was cool. You do that. Come on. You know what we want. I want the rabe on the sidelines sitting on the bench and I look and I'm like, man, I bet, like... You want the rabe on the sidelines that's mouth into the DB.

I don't even know who the fuck you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, talking shit with the boys, whatever. Like, I just, did it feel good? I didn't know who that one guy was. Oh, yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I don't know who it was either. But he was talking shit to Braves and he just mustache Braves.

That's who we want. He chirped. He chirped the wrong dude. He tripped the wrong one. He didn't come correct. No, I was like, no. I don't even know who you are. I didn't know you were miced up one day when we were playing Houston doing fucking two

minute over and over again on the half. What do you want to do? What does it? Yeah, yeah, but you know how that fucking sounds. I let me go up to him. You've seen the clip. I'm like, hey, what are we thinking about this next two minutes? Are we, like, playing regular, I'm thinking, are we playing regular ball?

Are we doing two minutes? Because it's only a one-score game now. And there's plenty of time on the club. You're not explaining to me. You're explaining to her. He's defending himself. I am. And you just go, we score.

And I'm thinking, I'm, fuck, that's a body guy. I think I'm not. Think I no one will ever hear that. And then sure enough, it's a clip the next week. It's good. I was like, God, damn it. Stretch gets okay, although. So, you know, how valuable is stretch?

Talk about, extremely valuable. Stretch the fucking flowers. You ought to get him on the bus. He won't. He has... He wouldn't... He would... Stretch those where the bones are buried.

There's no question. There's no question. He fucking does, too. Sitting out there, right outside your office, he's got no windows. None. He just fucking hangs out in there. None. I would love...

I love to say with him. Just watch games. All day. It stretch just a situational master. He is really, really good, man. Him and I watch a lot of tape together, watch a lot of game. He goes through. He helps me put that Friday tape together.

that thing's a gem. You miss it, don't you? I miss the Fridays every now. I might send them to you guys. I don't miss those faces. Like, just fucking, I don't miss that. Two for one specious. Yeah, the two, yeah, the two for one spash.

Why? Laid a dish. You didn't like that? I don't know. It just depends on the day. It just depends on what. You're tired? No, if you're PMSing or not.

Oh, no. It was always. You bet you'll be in on Friday and then you'll realize, like, you might come in on Saturday, Like, hey Friday. I mean, it's just depends if somebody's pissed me off. Friday night didn't know the way if he wanted. He didn't get that. Thursday night. It was, yeah. But like I tell him, like, they can't fuck up my Friday. You know what I mean?

Your Friday got fucked up so much. Right, but I tried to tell them that that they couldn't. And it was like somebody's going to more than got one. You would just fuck up everybody else this Friday, but nobody's going to fuck up yours. Right. That's not true. I've changed. You have. Hey, you have. Which is kind of what we went to in 2018?

I've changed. 2018, it was like, what Braves are we getting today? because there'd be happy Braves and then there'd be... Try to be the same guy every day. Yeah, but at 2018, we weren't that. I would say you'd be... We're all kind of feeling each other out.

No question. Kind of like the... Right here. Jogging up to the line, which I'm willing to go back and talk about it if you want. No, I'm not willing to have that conversation. That's okay. What did you ultimately do?

I went to the fucking line. No shit. I was getting yelled at. I'll tell you what. I will say this. It's mostly Keith fucking in the back all the time. That shit would make me so mad. And then another thing,

the jogging up to the line, and pre-pre-practice before the warm-up in the walk-through? I don't got to... Everything's full-speed to the ball of snapped. We don't even warm yet. Operation, operation, operation. Operation is great, but we're walking through.

I've already done a whole indie drill. The full speed... Adolf Carter over there, dude wants me to fucking rip around. The full speed to the ball is snapped was designed for your brain. Yeah. So that mentally you were operating at full speed, but when the ball was snapped,

It was just a light jog. Yes. Except for the fact. And also when people would wear tennis shoes or too much comfortable stuff out on the field. Yeah, you get hot at that. Full speed until a snap

because it's like, then he can say, hey, why don't you work? No, I never said that. I'm not talking about like a Saturday walkthrough. No, he's talking about Wednesday, Wednesday. Oh, got you, gotcha. Gotcha, got you.

We have full pads on. It's fucking human outside. And then I've already done an Indian a half. Plus a walkthrough going over protection. then we, or new in review as Keith would call it. Then we go to that and we're like, hey, we're jogging. And then Keith goes, that's all right. That's all right.

Keith goes, hey, it is a jog through, but I'll let you guys know, like we have to go just a little bit faster than D-Line, which you know that's going to cause a- It's ridiculous. You got to go one percent harder than the guy across from you. You got to think to yourself. How do they not see? Remember Tart's rookie year?

Couldn't run a play. It was a fight every play. Dude. Him and Levin, I'm like, something's got to give here, guys. Literally just trying to help each other out, jog through, stay on sides, stay off the ground, and know where you guys are going to. And then ultimately it's just like... And then we're going to fight in a fucking jog to you.

Just go stretch. And then we got to go to meetings after. And Keith pulls up the jog through, which is fine because we're going over if there's MAs or something like that. But he's talking about how our effort is bad in the jog through. And I'm thinking, what are we talking about here? No, I mean, I get that. You know, I mean, there's certain things where it's like,

the reason for the jog through was for us to steal reps. Yeah. Steal reps and not having to go full speed or live. And then ultimately, during practice, those same plays are going to repeat. And you maybe have a chance to fix it or know what's coming or storm alert. Yeah. I used to love that.

I love the storm. Wow. Win and doubt just yell storm alert. And then if you're wrong. It doesn't matter. If it'll put it up, said it. LER movement.

Storm alert. C-Y. C-Y-A. Taylor just told it all out there. Oh, yeah. I'm talking. Games, movement. It would blow my mind.

Because Ben, obviously, me, me, Roger and Ben would be very, would be very talking about. And Ben be like, you know, Nate, he didn't say a fucking word. Still hasn't. David Lee wouldn't say a word. Nick didn't say anything.

It's like, guys, you guys, you guys just be loud. All you got to do is be loud. Then I think you're doing something. On the jog to the line, I will say, like, if you're a defender and you're... Don't.

Please don't. Well, it is true, and you're a little bit tired. Intimidation. And you see a run to the line of scrimmage, you know. Thank you. Depending on the type of team you are. I'm the coach's kid. Yeah.

Coach's kid. Jim Rat. You're fucking right. Hell yeah. I get that in the fourth. Then call, what's it called when we fast break? Think about, and obviously the Titans have been good since then too. But when you guys went to, had the run to the AFC championship,

the way the run game is clicking or the Ravens that one year when we ended up beating them in the fourth and AJ or Derek's breaking all these tackles at the end and you're showing the highlights and then Derek buss and one guys this is what happens it is like, yo, the boys

are fucking juicy out there. You guys are coming off the bench. Yeah, when you guys went 9 and 7 you're going into each playoff game. Once you beat New England, that was kind of the one like as a fan perspective you're kind of like if they beat them, when you guys beat them it's like,

yo, they're going to fucking beat Baltimore. just because a lot of that juice and momentum, like... That game was a bloodbath, too. It was an absolute bloodbath. Yeah. Have you... The offensive line... The offensive line and the AFC championship run?

I mean, have you seen better ball as a unison? I love watching that line of scrimmage move. Dude. We ran the same fucking plays over and over again. Zorro. Even... Even... Quatro.

Zorro. Even to the right, odd to the left. Yeah. Just fucking run. And I had to hit high tower like six times. You know, it went 500. I tell her's a thick. He's a thick boy, dude.

And then what was it there? What was Brave saying? What was the hyenas? Yeah. Remember because Tom's social media dude, like, put on something about that. Being the lion or whatever? Taylor called me. Tom Brady posted something.

Right. That morning. Yeah. The hyenas and all that. So go ahead. Yeah. Taylor FaceTime me right after the meeting, I guess you did the hyena thing or something. It was just, I don't know, talking about how just juicy it was on.

It was a nice fucking. It was a nice deal. That clip was awesome that that Brady put out. And I hit at the boys up, I was like, you need to flip this. If we win, you got to flip this. And it was elite. What else do we have? What, hey, you guys.

I got one. Go ahead. If you take the Titans out of it, if you're going to coach one NFL team, what team would you want that to be? Oh, we're not doing that. What do you mean? Because there's 31 other teams. got one job. I can only coach one team at a time, man. Yeah, but you know, you play in Kansas.

We're not playing that game. We're not playing that. Steelers. No. Tennessee. I would literally, obviously, want to see this thing through, man. I, um, we'll get a new stadium. I mean, come on, dude, that thing's going to be sick.

Yeah. Like, sick. So that, that's my goal. You know, I mean, especially in a career where there's a lot of movement. And, you know, I'm proud that we've had some guys. here that have raised their family. You look at some of these coaches that have been with us for six years, some of them, that's a long time, in a long time in any profession, especially coaching.

So that's what I'm worried about. Yeah. Not where the hell well is what I want to coach. What about college? We do that. Fuck that. You would never do that? Because you know, Ohio State was, Ohio State was calling for days ahead.

You think you guys are gasped up on social media? No. Like, that is ridiculous. I'll tell you, if raves ever. What they're giving these guys to come before they're even on campus and, like, they're recruiting year-round in the transfer portal. And if this guy doesn't start, he's leaving. And, like, that's a lot.

Got it's a lot. Because there were a whole lot of creep. Got it soft, hasn't it? I don't know if it's gotten soft, but it's certainly... You got a man. It's a lot of managing. Uh-oh. Hang in there, Slim.

there's a lot of just stuff that you have to do with outside of football. Yeah. I mean, this guy, big NIL guy. I mean, I'd take money. He would be. There's no question. Big N.

See some of those cars? Those guys are driving? If you would have gave me money in college, I would be literally be dead. I really believe that. You see those cars? Yeah. I mean, him too. How is the NIL at Michigan?

They're doing a good job? Yeah, I mean, we're, you know. Is it? Okay. I have no idea how what they're paying players, but we see how they're doing right now. We see. And I tell you what.

They're doing good job. Yeah. I mean, they get that win in Columbus this past year is. Oh, yeah. Two in a row, right? Two in a row against Ohio State? Yeah. Big year this year.

I'll beat us in three years. Big year. You turn to put something on it? We will. Good. What else you got for me? Who are, give me the three healthest players you've ever played with as a player?

Played with. Brian Waters, last couple years. in my career. Seymour, Rodney Harrison. I said only gave me three, right? Give me a couple more. It seems like you're... I mean, Joel Steed was a noseguard for Pittsburgh, LeVon Kirkland. Dermonti Dawson was probably a low-key, one of the best players I ever played with. I didn't know anything about national football. He would reach, man reached three techniques. He was a center. I couldn't. It was amazing. He could move like that.

He could fly. I mean, talk about helmet speed. I mean, I saw Ted Johnson break a guy's helmet. Three, four defense. Just you lined up over the guard at like four yards and was like straight ahead, no fair dodging. Jamie Nails, like 350-pound guard for the dolphins. Ted hit him, and his helmet broke like an egg shell.

I was like, holy shit. Thank God that wasn't me. Seymour Harrison, are there any stories that you're thinking about like when you say their names? So we signed Rodney kind of like maybe right at the beginning at training camp or something.

Chargers had kind of cut them. And so it was like one of those early like full padded practices and Kevin Falk ran an angle route or something. I don't know. And Rodney like hit the shit out.

Like he hit him. It wasn't like a thud. it was like he hit him he fell right he didn't go low or right he didn't like leave his feet or hit him in the head or anything and uh everybody's like ooh the little fans all and Steve neal the former wrestler was like left guard he runs out he's telling rondy he's like you can't hit him like that right he's like shut fuck you i hit whoever i want o line coach comes out dante comes out and he's like man you can't hit him like there he goes shut up i'll beat your ass too old man Me and Bruske

looked at each other like, holy shit, we got one. We got one. He's got this. Savage. Jesus.

And we laugh about it now, but like, that's how Rodney was. Like, he didn't think he did anything wrong. It was Kevin Falk. He didn't, like, take a cheap shot on him.

Like, he just hit him. Me and Brew were like, we got one. You guys had a fucking squad. Yeah. Any, I mean, are there any,

are there any early Brady stories stories that? people might not know about? I'm sure there's plenty early Brady stories people don't know about. What's one? They're not going to. Oh, they're not.

They're not full. I'm going to speak for myself. Guidelines. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's the smartest player you've ever coached? From the Rafters. Rip it. JP says who is the smartest player you've ever coached?

I know my vote. Probably Ben Jones, Max Bola, linebacker Michigan State You had him at Houston, yeah? Really? That was out of nowhere.

I did not expect that. Just because I remember he didn't take a rep and he could play like seven positions. For real? Didn't take a practice rep. He was nice at Michigan State. Yeah, he was. He was just, he could play Mike, play Will.

I mean, he played like literally every position possible and then take one rep during the week. We'd just wrap everybody else. Ben, I think Ben's answer. I mean, Ben seems like just a coach front office guy. I mean, he's like, he's like the bridge. Yeah, there's no question. Yeah.

Like, I had a lot of... You know, who's doing a hell of a job for us is Luke Stocker. Yeah, I heard he's with you. He saw him a tight in you. Yeah. He said he picked it up. We're like, yeah, what's it like? What's it like?

He's like different. Yeah, different. He's done a great job. Has he? Transitioning quickly from a player to coach and he's into it and, you know. Is he full time now? Or is he still on like that? He's going to be with us throughout the season.

So, yeah. That's awesome. Is that something where he goes for like OTAs or a few weeks? He was, not. Just offer it? Mm-hmm. He was going to do the OTAs, the off-season, the whatever nine-week program, and crushed it and offered him a season-long opportunity. Would you hire Taylor?

No. I wouldn't be good at a coach. I would not do well. Next question. You can wear the fit. Yeah, I'd wear the hell out of the fit. What about just kind of like a console? What if I just come in and talk about man reaches?

No, why don't we just maybe Zoom? Come on. You just don't look at it. You're just going to walk around the building. I do. Just want to walk around, get my Johnson. The Zoom week. Yeah.

COVID. I don't think Tuesday night game against the Buffalo Bills. We did not practice for, what, eight days? For the Steelers. Yeah. So we literally had like three days of preparation for the bills. Transish. And then we beat the shit out of that.

We did. Was there a piece of you that's like, hey, we don't even need to practice? practice anymore. No. Not a rave. All of us. All of us were like, we...

Why do we even need to practice? Yeah. Remember we should? Like 40 minutes reintroduced ourselves and say, hey, I'm... And then we're like, we got to get out of here. We all thought, we all thought we're going to get blown the fuck out. Destroyed. Yes.

We thought there was no chance we're going to win. And obviously, you were doing a good job. Be like, boys, it doesn't matter. Any given Sunday type of speech. You did a good... Fire alarms going off at his house. Who gives a fuck? We'll play them anywhere.

We'll play them in the parking. lot type talk and we go in the locker we're like, we're probably going to get blown the fuck out. And we beat the shit out of them. Yeah, you basically just have like the fucking mentality like we all know the asterisk that comes with if you lose. So it's like there's nothing to lose, right? Yeah. It's like when you're

playing it and it's just a downpour and on defense you're kind of like just taking shots because you realize you're just going to be in there like, yo, it's wet as fuck, we're going to be slipping. And it was some turnovers early and next thing you know, they're running out the clock and Willie sees make a tackles at the end of the game.

Okay, I see. What? You were? You know, that is. You know, that is. Yeah. What? What? What?

Was that a jab? Dude, fucking, we know your humor, brother. I respect it. I respect your game. Don't get it twisted. But, uh... You better watch your fucking tone with me, brother. We can step out.

We can wrestle. We don't have to fucking step out anywhere. We can do that shit right in here. You've been grabbing that knee a little too much. You've been grabbing that knee a little too much. I'm letting you know, Will, Will bodybag you. There ain't a fucking chance. I will beat Will's fucking.

Move the mics. Hey, what's happening right now? He's thinking about it right now. No, I'm not thinking about it. He knows he'd have to get a one to him before I had him. I got my wherewithal with me. I think you take rave's note. Wrestling?

If you beat my, you come down, we'll fight. And then if you fight, if we fight, you can go do your podcast right in my office. For how many episodes? At the facility? Yeah. Where else's office? Home game for me. What are the boundaries?

What do you mean? like there's rules? I didn't know if you wanted a headgear. No. Or gloves or something. You got to wear a mouthpiece. You got to protect those chicklets. Those things are like sharp, dude.

Let's hit the twist. But hey, no, when he said got some tackles at the end of the game, when Has came up and it's like, hey, you're going to go in. I was like, Has, I don't fucking want to go in right now. I'm fucking, I'm stiff as a board, dude. It's over. Like we won. I want to fucking go in there and have some fucking garbage time. That's just a little side story.

on the type of guy you had that year. We know. Locker room guy. Your place wasn't on the field. Your place was in that. No, sometimes. Dapin dudes up. Having good conversations.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What else? I think we're getting close to the end, man. Getting close, boys. I think we got about 30 minutes left. The fuck we do.

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Are you still willing to cut your dick off for a Super Bowl? Nope. Nope. You guys heard it here first. Titans are not going to make the playoffs this year. Because I realized that the... Marriage is a lot better? No, it wasn't the marriage. It was right.

You literally said, been married 20 years. I know. And that just means, like, you'll figure it out once you guys have been married 20 years. No. That puts you on the map, dude. Like, that... I would probably... I'd cut that finger.

off. Show him the finger. I'd cut that one off to win. Can you lift that thing up? All the way down to the knuckle? Yeah, just the part that doesn't bend. Just a straight part. I mean, if you can bend, if you can bend the top. Yeah, I can't. Yeah.

But you're not cutting your dick off anymore. You're over that. No, over that. I grew up. Would you get a tattoo? Would you get a tattoo? Yes. Saying, I love busting with the boys on your low back. Ooh, I like that. No.

For a Super Bowl? For a Super Bowl? We're a Super Bowl for raves. They have laser team and out. That's my incentive to win a Super Bowl is to get that tattoo. Like, I would get a tattoo of like the boys, like a picture of the team, you know. Be in the picture? No.

We get rings if you win. We're part of the team. Yeah. We've done a lot for you. We've done a lot for your program. We've done a lot for you guys too. I know. Yeah.

I would get a tattoo. I'd get a tattoo. What would it say? We design it. Sure. We can design the tattoo. Within reason. I get three choices.

Done. And it's got to be like actually tighten. Yeah, absolutely. Big mitts. Those are easy myths, dude. I'm handling that easy. Are you guys talking about fighting like fighting fighting? I think that's what he is.

You know the whole Ohio brain it kicks in. It just goes into animal mode. It's fire or flight. Ohio people are doing it. We know what he's picking. Yeah. You got to let it calm down, but make no mistake.

If we go to the ground, you're going to be in trouble. Because you're a rassler? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And you're, you are older. I'm not, yeah, no, I get no interest in wrestling. Yeah.

Did you wrestle in, what's up, bud? Would you beat Dan Campbell in a fight? Oh. Would you beat Dan Campbell in a fight? I mean, sure. I think I could beat anybody in a fucking fight, except for like Jeff Simmons. You had to bring them up.

Had to bring them up. No. I meant we battled on the field. Christ. Who got the better of who on the field? I don't remember. If you don't remember, it's probably him. No, I don't, I would doubt that, I mean. He's a tight hand.

Did he play all with the lions? Or was he with the dolphins at all? Dallas. I know I played against him once when he was in Detroit. And probably that year against the giant, We used to scrimmage the Giants every year. We fights in training camp every year back of the day. That's another thing, too.

You're mixing it up, huh? There were. Yeah, I mean, there. The Patriots and the Giants used to practice every preseason. You seem like the type that would want to, like, you're wanting the mix up to happen. You were like that when we did with Washington and Houston. So the first time, I was a rookie and got drafted by the Steelers, and it was like, hotter than hell and it's humid down in the valley.

La Trobe, Pennsylvania. And mind you, we have so many, like, veteran players on the Steelers. Like, I'm just trying to figure this out. And I'm getting tired. It's a tight end. And he would start rassling. Throw them down.

Like, whatever. Dumb players were punching each other with a helmet on. You know, I mean, it's just, like, not really doing much. But anyways. So, like, you always come out thinking that you won, you know, like, I won the training camp. But really, just lost because you're so exhausted.

And the coach is like, no, stay in there. Like, you're not coming out. And go in the next play. And you're like, can't even move. So meanwhile, I've been there for like four months after I got drafted. And Greg Lloyd hasn't said a word to me since the day I got drafted. It hasn't literally, I avoided eye contact with them because it's just like, oh, shit, that's great. So I'm sitting in my locker and like my head's down.

I'm exhausted. And I see this, like, shadow come over me. He's like, yeah, next time what you want to do is you want to take your hand and you want to go up. on a neat. First time he talks to me is after I got to fight. Like I had to prove myself to him so that he was, I was worthy enough to talk to him. I'm like, Greg, like, you haven't said, I've been scared to death to you for four months and I finally get into a fight. I said, if I didn't known that, I'd have been fighting somebody in April. Yeah. Just so that you talked to me. But that was like, that was his like, you know, okay, this guy's like worthy of me talking to

him. And then we ended up being boys. earn your stripes. I guess. Mike Braver would beat Dan Campbell in a fight. That's what I heard. I mean, I'm taking Braves. I'm taking Braves. I'm taking Braves.

Yeah. If Dan Campbell's... I would hope. I'd be like, you know, Danny, I'm taking you. No question. You did bring up Jeff Simmons. Is that your favorite player of all time?

No, it's not my favorite player of all time. He's out there. No. Where am I out on that? Right outside of top three. You and Taylor are tied. I'll take that. I legit thought I wouldn't even beat top ten.

I'm stoked on that. So four? No, I just said outside of somewhere. Okay, so I'm back where I thought of it was. Just outside of top three. Yeah. Just like you said you were going on tour and you're going to two places. Well, we're doing a fall tour or two and there's five stops.

It's because we're on vacation too. Vacay. Yeah. Italy. Really? Yeah. Nice. Have you been?

Nope. Go to Destin, Florida. It's got an Italy vibe. That's that 30A. Yeah. That's a 38. At Nashville Beach, baby. the whole town goes down there

Taylor you got a place down there 30A Willie staying at I went there for the first time for the fourth Yeah I was it It was cool It was hot A lot of rules that I don't like

But it was beautiful And I really enjoyed it You are, are you really going to Italy? Yeah Nice Yeah, you'd be going Two weeks, yeah Sweet

With us It'll be fun It'll be us there How long are you going for Two weeks You're traveling around Do what? Yeah

going to like four or five different different parts and this is about as far as I get because I don't really know much. Our trainer stuck there. I guess they shut the airport down Friday. Oh, really? One. Big Mike. Mikey.

Big Mike. They shut the airport down, I guess. I don't know. That's wild. You probably lied. Just to stay out there a little longer. Todd told me this morning. Yeah.

Well, hey. I appreciate it, guys. Thanks for coming on. It was a pleasure. Thank you. And you are the man. You guys aren't going anywhere in my life. you guys are stuck with me.

Don't, the painting of the negative, like, you're the man. But I appreciate what you guys have done. And I think probably the most important thing is that you treat my kids well. The boys, they love you. And I appreciate that because I know it's like people are always like, oh, yeah, with Tyler a player, I'm like, I wouldn't want my son to play here. I know when you guys go in the locker room. Like, I didn't want, like, that's not fair to Tyler.

And people don't understand that. And it's like, dude, there's got to be a video. Like, I get it. You want to tell my kids, I'm sure my kids think I'm an asshole sometimes too. You know what I mean? But that was the whole reason. I was like, no, like, I don't. And being in the locker room, too, like, you build camaraderie off.

Right. And I don't want, like, that would be different. So it was like, but I do appreciate how you guys treat them. Yeah, Carter gave me right home one night after a comedy show. Yeah, yeah, the comedy show. One-eyed Willie. Yeah. Yeah.

I was like, hey, Carter, I really appreciate you getting me right home, man. This is awesome. I was like, let your dad know you took me home. That was a wild night. That was a fun night. That was a fun night. He said it was awesome. Yeah.

As far as like the back and forth with Carter and then we can get off. But it jogged my memory of we hit the Ravens game happened. Then I get to play the next week in the Colts. Trip, fall, have a couple bad plays that first series. End up getting benched that game to the next day. Carter is in my DMs buying our Black Friday thing to where I send a video

to where we do our video sending. He's like, hey, I want you to say it this way. And I'm literally, my head's already in the blender because I'm just pissed that, you know, that's how the situation went for me. And I trip, you do all these things, and you're just playing all these plays on your head. And I'm thinking, there's no way in hell I want to fucking send Vrabble

a Black Friday video. Do you remember that? You remember? I know you remember that. I remember you. I'm shocked I still had to pay for stuff. You don't have, God, don't do that. Don't do that. Just ask us. You'll be like, hey, and it's always.

No, but back then. No, I know. That was just Carter being fucking Carter. Oh, fuck. Spending my money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, spending your money and be like, hey, you have to make this video for your dad. I'm just thinking, your dad just fucking destroyed me for not understanding, um, ultra on the fucking goal line. It was just down my throat about it.

I was like, he just berated me, and you want me to send him a video? I was like, I'm sure he doesn't want to see me right now. What, did you give up a touchdown or something? Coverage? Were you the edge guy? The defense came over. The defense gave up. Were you to force guy?

I can't even remember. I think so. I think so. It was something up the middle. You were just mad that they scored. Oh, right. Because if you're the force guy, how you got to do is... I'm talking about, like, my back of over the carter, like, in my head as a player, you're just thinking, you know.

Is this kid setting me up? Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm like, yo, I tripped on a tight end. I fucking don't see something. I fuck up the ultra for Braves.

And you want me to send him a video being like, hey, thank you for buying her gear on Black Friday. That had to be tough. It was. I remember that too because you called me and you're like, hey, I'm starting.

I was fired up. Fired up. And I legit watched that first series. I was like, oh, no. I know. I mean, it had to be the same way.

It was for me in the Cardinals game. Yeah, I had a... It wasn't that bad. Dude, that shit was bad. His game wasn't that bad. Was that the worst game you've ever seen a player play? Live, yeah.

Yeah. Dude, you legit... Dude, that was shock at all, that whole game. Dude, you literally called me in your office. I know. He called me and he's like, hey, come to my office. I'm thinking, I might actually get cut. I really have no idea driving.

And you were really nice. You were like, hey, I want you to know, like, you didn't lose that game. Like, you did not lose this. It's a long season, brother. We're going to need to get back. Yeah, it was probably. the worst. I think I was talking to

I started Taylor and Mike on the way back from Kittlest. I was like, that was the worst day of my life, I think. There's no question. Dude, that that was like a it was like tough for the rest of the Oh, I bet. I remember who was it? Who was the OC? Was it Todd? Todd was the O.C.?

Todd was the O.C. And he's like, first play running behind you. Like he just, there was a couple of plays into, I had a couple screens. I had a couple like plays that I was like a lead blocker. And I remember calling you, going to get my IV. I'm like, hey, this, this game plan, I got like a lot in it. And I'm stoking.

I was like being most confident I've ever gone into a game in my entire life. And then after the second series, I was like, oh, wow. Dude, there's nothing worse. Sitting in the third quarter, just getting your shit pushed in for her. Just hoping at the game ends.

Yeah, like, hopefully, you know, there's a lightning and they're just, hey, we'll just end it now. You're just like, oh, my God, there's really nothing you can do. You look up at Ruse and Corey, and they're just looking at you back, and you're like, they can't say nothing.

That was fucking, nothing to say. That was rough. off. But that was really nice of you. I do appreciate the conversation we have. Well, I appreciate it. I'm happy for you guys. You guys kick ass, man. You guys are doing great. I'll get you on during the by-week, huh? As a repayment for not making the beer Olympics and then being late. I have, uh, yeah, sure, we'll make it work. I fucking love that, Braves. That was a, that was a from the hip, too. That was. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, that's some good. A lot of respect for you. Hell yeah, boys. Appreciate you, babes.

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