Bussin' With The Boys - NFL Wild Card Reaction: Buffalo Bills Easiest Path To Super Bowl? + Philadelphia Eagles Collapse

Episode Date: January 12, 2026

On this weeks Monday NFL recap, Will Compton, Taylor Lewan and Greg Olsen break down NFL Wild Card Weekend, playoff momentum, and the biggest performances from around the league. The Packers vs Bears game turns into a full breakdown of Caleb Williams playing out of his mind, making unreal off-platform throws and showing why he’s already one of the most exciting quarterbacks in football. The conversation shifts to 49ers vs Eagles, where San Francisco continues to win despite dealing with key injuries, knocking off an Eagles team that arguably has the most talented roster in the NFL—raising serious questions about Philly’s future and playoff ceiling. Then it’s Bills vs Jaguars, as the boys give flowers to Josh Allen, breaking down why he’s the best player in the NFL right now and how he single-handedly willed Buffalo to a playoff win with his arm, legs, and leadership. If you love NFL playoff breakdowns, quarterback talk, Wild Card reactions, and unfiltered locker-room conversations, this one’s for you.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What up? Killing. There's nothing I love more than mid-game tweets from Will. What do you say? Hey, you gotta start tweeting back mid-game. What did you say? There's nothing I love more than the mid-game tweets and texts from you guys. Are we rolling, Mitchie?

I love it. Boys, I need to find somewhere the sun right now. I have my shades down, humble brag, my automatic shades, and I'm getting blasted by the sunrith. And I don't know where to stand. It's bringing out the color in your eyes, though. Take a few minutes. Do whatever you got to do. Yeah. That's nice.

Hold on. What game did you call while we're waiting for you to figure out your life? I called. He was the early one. I called Panthers. Panthers Rams? I called Panthers Rams. Yeah.

I know, dude. It's like I sit there and I even try and time it up to when Greg might, might check his phone. Yeah, because the thing, too, is like. I'll check my phone during my game. Why? Yeah. When we're on ESPN with Rolofsky, like, every break, he immediately goes to his phone and then you go in after the show

and you're on Twitter kind of just surfing and you see her lofts. He's been tweeting back at a lot of people and I think that would be a great bag to add to your game. It's like, oh damn, Greg, he's so insightful. You know Greg's got a different process. Yeah, Greg is a no-nonsense process guy.

Greg's a guy that hated social media and he's like, that is so lame. You guys shouldn't be doing that, like focus on ball. And now he's found himself in a world where like, I kind of have to. Yeah. And I hate it. Am I wrong by saying that?

No, I mean, I definitely am involved in social media during the week. I try to, social media is how I keep up with news, trends, pop culture, just everyday life, entertainment. So like I'm, I don't engage on social media consistently. But I view it. I consume it. I'm not a great, I don't create a lot of social media content, but I do absorb a lot of it and find a lot of it amusing, stupid, funny, you know, everything in between. But yeah, the last thing you can do during a game, in my opinion, maybe some guys do, is like worry about what's being said on Twitter or what people's critiques are, what people say is good, bad, momentum, you know, all that.

So, I mean, I obviously see the tweets after the games and I have people that now like send them to me, which is a way I get a lot of my storylines is now people are in on the kind of joke and send it to me. but the idea of like reacting to social media during the game blows my mind. Dude, because I feel like the worst thing too, and correct me if I'm wrong, Greg, but say you were just to like scan your phone, it might even just be, it could just be text messages. But if you get something that is like maybe either egregious or abrasive or about something called, then you're like, think, that's like on your mind then when you were about to go. That could make sense.

You're about to go back on TV. You might not, like, you might not even be thinking about it as a reason why you don't. But I'm just, you know, I'm. I'm just spitballing because I'm like I'm trying to time it up when you might go to commercial and I might have like something with momentum momentum. Hey, you got to talk about momentum. Hey, the Brams had all the momentum when that game started. Dude, they had all the momentum. And then it's crazy though. It's just, you know, you guys have really opened my eyes to not only the idea of momentum and how important it is, but for something that's so important and that everybody is just so desperately trying to grab onto. it's just amazing to me how it's so ever fleeting. That's the part, you know, for something so important, that everyone's trying to capture, nobody can actually maintain it.

That's the part of it that I find so funny. Yeah, dude, momentum is the golden snitch. Like, you're not just going to get that thing all the time, always. Like, eventually, like, someone's getting closer to the snitch than the other person. It's just a back and forth. And whoever grabs the most momentum at the end of the game, they are the winners. I was listening to you, I can't remember what game was. Oh, you know what?

It was right after the game last night, the 49ers game, 49ers Eagles. And it was just three people sitting at the desk in the middle guy. He was a coach for the Steelers for a long time. Bill Coward. Yeah, Bill Coward. He's sitting there,

and he literally is just speaking on the idea of momentum and how it's not a quantifiable asset that you can possibly have, but it's so real. It is real. And he was like, it's as if he listened to you speak about how momentum is like,

so not a thing in the beat of our podcast. He's like, I got to prove, like, I truly thought he was like sub speaking to you on national television. Maybe he was.

Maybe he's a huge fan of Bustin with the boys. I could see it. He just loves the Monday. Maybe he just loves the Monday recap. Yeah. You know, listen, I'm not,

I'm not anti it. I'm not, I'm not close-minded. Um, you know, I think we watched a whole weekend of football where at any moment in time, if we pressed pause,

one team had all the momentum and that was so critical to their future success and then within two to four plays or at most a possession or two somehow that momentum that was so critical to grab onto somehow the other team got it and it I don't know it just I don't know it's just to me so it just feels lazy it just feels like I don't know what else to say so I'm just going to fill this in with this non, no one can tell me I'm wrong. No one can prove to me I'm wrong, but in no world can I prove that it's right, you know. Well, you just, again, there's moments where you have the momentum and then boom, you can lose it. Bam.

Like Carolina gets in that game. They don't get back in the game if my, or if the Rams continue to build a momentum and the ball just doesn't hit Puka in the head or hands. Yeah. So if they had all the momentum, why do Pooka's past all the momentum? Why did Pooka drop the ball? Puckoo is not mad that he dropped the ball he's mad because he hurt the momentum

You flew too close to the sun You flew too close to the sun There's this fine There's this fine balance of having the juice It's like when Drake May they do that little speed option And he pumps it on the D&D falls for it He goes up to get a first down Like this juice comes in your body

Like oh I'm playing with the I'm starting to feel it I'm playing with this different level of swag But you can't fly too close to the sun Get over your skis and think everything's a cakewalk You still got to execute And then the moment you have a lapse, a lapse, and it can happen like that, momentum gone. That's the thing, man.

Think about all the practices, the games that you've played in your life. When you walk out and you're like, bro, I really can't miss today. That's momentum. And you start bowing out a little bit. And all of a sudden you're like, I'm feeling myself. Oh, yo, you see Greg? You see him on the outside block right there? Oh, my, he just caught a nice little thing.

Took a little farther. But he's feeling himself. He's feeling himself. Then all of a sudden, through the hands. That's how you kill momentum. Yeah. You had momentum and it got killed. Or maybe, Greg, you as a coach, you got a couple plays that you would like to get to,

maybe in the right situation or circumstances, your players out there, they start creating this momentum to where you're now loosening up a little bit as a head coach and you're like, I'm dropping this play on them. And then that play works. And you're thinking, hey, I'm kind of in my bag right now versus if you didn't have momentum, then maybe your own feeling is like, okay, maybe I don't go to this play right now. I'm getting a little more. I'm getting a little bit more in the box.

I'm kind of handcuffing myself a little bit, but you get to free yourselves from the cuffs whenever you start sparking a little bit of momentum. Right. Does that make sense? Jaguars, Jaguars. Yeah, that's so, I mean,

the Jaguars had won, what, seven straight, six straight-ish? What did they finish the season? Six and O? I think they had an eight game. Is it an eight? Okay, whatever it was.

Um, it felt like they had all the momentum. Yeah. Obviously didn't play out. I love that I love that you brought that up Playoff football's different 8 game winning streak right it's a reset like you can start Oh so got it

Hold on guys I need I'm gonna like I gotta write like a board of all the rules And we need to do that we'll hit that in the offseason for you for sure Yeah that's an offseason project Like mid April we'll have a breakdown of like this is how momentum works where we're gonna have a full Q&A But if you go in the playoffs your eight game winning streak That's a great momentum start to have But just like the movie F1 like you're starting in different places

now. So you might start at the front of the pack with your momentum, but it all depends on how you drive that game. Now, I believe the Jaguars were running at like 6.1 yards per carry, but they were toting the rock pretty nice, and they got a little pass happy. Liam Cohn is great of a coach as he has been the entire year, might have hurt his team's momentum because Trevor Lawrence himself wasn't having a momentous day. Does that make sense? Can we feel good about that? Yeah. I mean, it sounds like that's the answer to all of this when you don't when you're unhappy with the results it's because you didn't capture or you lost said momentum and when you do have momentary success the reason for it is that momentary momentum but if it could lose you could lose it at any

moment yeah it's you know it's yeah i i guess i'm starting to really learn how just utterly ridiculous it all sounds. No, no, no. Momentum is not the... Listen, I believe guys have confidence. I believe athletes feel more confident than others. We've talked about that. I feel there's a mentality that's

built through processes and routine and yes, I believe good practice matters. I believe good practice habits matter. I believe building out your pregame. I believe all those things from a comfort level put players in a better or worse spot to go out and have

success. I'm not saying at an individual level these feelings are not real. They certainly are. I've experienced those same moments of doubt and fear and holy shit, I've forgotten how to catch the ball. I hope he doesn't throw it to me. And in other games where I'm like, he could throw it at my ass and I'd catch it. You know what I mean? I can catch

it with one hand behind my back. Yeah, because you got some juice. He's got momentum. But I'm not going to sit here and say that there's this big collective universe of this energy that no one can sense called momentum that is somehow coming and going and losing and great i don't know i don't catch a ball drop a ball make a block miss a block catch a ball drop a ball is but every time people talk about momentum it it it switches sides three thousand times a moment and everyone's trying to capture this

arbitrary thing but they haven't quite figured out how to hold on to it great do you have a best friend yeah when you're around your best friend do you feel like a man I'm so stoked to be around my boy right now. That's how I feel when I'm on this show. Okay, great. So, all right, well, you probably won't get this in this show, but let's say you're with your boy and you see him. And then you walk away and you're like, man,

my boy didn't really feel like my boy did it. He kind of felt like he was a little off. Something was a little different about my boy. You felt that before? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So individually, that's called energy. You take 11 energies and then another 11 energies. That's one collective energy.

And that's, that is essentially the nucleus. of momentum. So when you're feeling, everyone's got their different energy, their confidence is, hey, I hope he doesn't throw the ball at me, that's someone's energy, that they're vibrating at a lower frequency.

And then there's the Greg Olson that he can throw it on my ass. I'm going to catch you every time. That's a higher frequency now we're looking at, right? And then collectively, as a unit, there's a percentage point that goes up. So based on all the guys, you could be riding at 70% energy,

80% energy, but you don't want to get too high. So just like the universe, you can kind of take out for people that aren't religious, Hey, instead of saying God, let's say universe, now all the things are the same. You can basically do that with energy and momentum the same way.

Am I off kilter in that? You're saying a little something right there. Say it a little something you agree with or something a little something that like, oh. Something that I buy because I believe in momentum. I think where we get stuck because everybody's sitting there listening in the comments, this has just been a debate show on momentum. I think we all understand.

And correct me if I'm wrong, Greg. But momentum is arm and arm. with execution. Ooh. Like, I know from my seat that I sit in. I believe in momentum. I also believe in execution.

So I buy into, again, the messages we go back and forth on. I'm like, I'm accepting and receptive to the messages that you bring on busing with the boys when teaching football.

I feel like you're in a spot to where you're not necessarily wanting to accept momentum because momentum is there whether you want to believe it or not. I'll give you an example. So, listen, we got New Year's resolutions going on.

We got accountability buddy systems that haven't taken place day in and day out because we're not building each and every day we're not stacking days. When you have an off

day or you miss a workout let's say you want to get a sweat in 20 minutes every day. You're six days into it in the seventh day. You kind of something happens to where you're traveling. Oh yeah.

Have not gotten a sweat in and the conversation I will have with myself is I'm not stacking consistency like I'm killing my own momentum because now I'm in my head thinking I'm going to have to restart or reset

because it comes down to executing and building on that momentum. So momentum and execution are arm and arm. I accept the execution. I accept some of the analytics football talk that we have. I get that, okay, I need to buy into this because it does make sense to me. But you're not going to tell me there's no such thing as momentum because we all believe what we all feel it. When we get a little juice, we capture a little bit of energy.

Oh, I'm not debating that there's times where you feel you have all the energy. I'm just asking why then so quickly does it flip? when you miss an extra point. And you can't be able to three. If you had all the momentum, why'd you miss the extra point? Because that's a new energy being brought in. If you had all the energy,

why Pooka dropped the ball? If you had all the energy, why when it was 14, nothing wasn't it 28? Nothing. It's just such a... It's just so silly. Yeah, but look, look, this is where they didn't execute. You watched those games over the last two days

and thought, oh my God, the team that's in control and they just skated on. The games flipped a thousand times. The games went back and forth. I threw Drake May through a interception on the first drive of the game. Oh my God, he's MVP's done. He stinks.

Matthew Stafford couldn't complete a pass in the third quarter. All the momentum was gone. The pet, Stafford can't complete a pass. It's the worst performance of his season. And in the fourth quarter, he didn't throw an incompletion. So it just, I don't know. Like, when did he have it? When did he lose it?

Who took it? Did he lose it in the lock? No one can ever say they just throw out the team that's doing well is only doing well because they have the momentum. It's just nonsense. They've been executed. I know when I'm saying back. They're executing.

They're playing well. The right guard didn't jump off sides. I didn't miss the slide call. The receiver didn't run his route deep enough. It's football. there's a thousand things that can go wrong, I think, to just blanket statement when it goes right, they've got the momentum, and that's why it's going right.

And then when there's something that goes wrong, it's just because they've arbitrary given the momentum back, as opposed to saying, why is their past game struggling? Why is their defensive? Why is J.C. Horn and Mike Jackson playing so well? What are the coverages that they're using? What are they doing up front?

Are they blitzing more than they normally do? Like, that's my take on it. We all just sat there. and just said, man, this team's got all the momentum. They're doing great. We wouldn't need to analyze the game. We would just throw out these cliche, you know, they really came out to establish the run today.

Like, what? What? It's so lazy. That's a good take. No, it's just lazy. In my opinion, it's lazy. Now, I'm not, I certainly don't have all the answers. This is just one man's opinion of doing my job of trying to present context of a football

game that's very complicated and very complex and a thousand different layers of physical and mental and emotional individuals that are there I mean you guys know it there's a thousand things I think they just put this blanket label on the good and bad times related to a word that nobody can define is just lazy but you can feel it Greg yeah like you you know yeah were you not when the panthers threw that touchdown buddy I was sitting in that stadium Bank of America's stadium hadn't been like that in 10 years. That place was rocking. There was 78,000.

The scoreboards lighten. There's a laser show. Jalen Coker's in the back corner. Bryce Young's getting helped up by the official. They just took the lead. They had all the momentum. And then Matthew Stafford went, boop,

boot, boot. Touchdown. And then they lost. Yeah. Dude, it's like it's like you said, it's fleeting. It can happen like that. It's a fickle game momentum. It's a fickle game.

The, the, the, the destiny. if we're going to fulfill the destiny of this, the audience that loves to listen in and listen to Greg Olson come on and hear us talk back and forth on momentum, the destiny, if we're going to fulfill it, it's just Greg acknowledging that momentum's real. You just said it.

How the stadium, it hadn't been like that in 10 years, you're watching it happen. You're watching the juice. Oh, I'm not saying it didn't exist. I'm just saying it doesn't matter so much. People need to know, hey, the momentum we're feeling in this place right now, Joe. Do you see it? Can you see?

There isn't an ad. on an empty seat. Put your hand out, Joe. You can literally touch the momentum right now. And the audience of this show is going to just come up like Leona and DiCaprio. Like, there he is. Griggs. He's understanding what the audience feels when they're at home watching this game and being like,

oh, man, do you feel this momentum? Listen, we felt it. Oh, snap. It went the other way. Yeah. We felt it in the booth. I just want to know why, why in 30 seconds later after the kickoff that it left. Matthew Stafford.

Matthew Stafford. I guess. I guess. I don't know. It's fascinating. We're going to snatch the soul from these guys. Right. This is Pokemon. This is Dragon Ball Z.

This is you've gathered your individuals to help you. And if you just have a Matthew Stafford on the other side, it's like that guy at any moment can take your momentum and it can shove it up your ass. That's what you can do. And I got, and the best part about this is I have you guys and all of your trusted listeners pointing it out to me multiple times a game. And for that, I feel like we've won. We have not won. We have not won. We have no winners and losers.

We have no winners and losers. We have no winners and losers. It hasn't been successful until Greg Olson is on a broadcast and even just goes, a lot of people right now are probably thinking to themselves. There's a lot of momentum taking place. I just need you to mention momentum. And then we can take the next step. And if for God's, Greg, if you don't do anything else and just look at our text messages at a commercial break, you'll know the right time. Don't look at Twitter. People are haters on Twitter.

Hey, Taylor. Look at our group chat. Yeah, and I'm even calling BS on that because he was a no show last week on this show. Right after the weekend where we laid out the formula of here, here's when you inject momentum into the conversation. Right. When the Patriots go of seven nothing. What did I miss?

Tell me what happened. Great, dude. Hey, this is about us right now talking about Greg Nutt showing up on the show after he had the perfect opportunities of momentum in a group chat that you displayed perfectly. And we said it all. the show like here's what's going to happen. Yep. When New England scores and you're going to talk about this loss of the Buffalo

Bill is the best thing never happened to this team, whatever I said. And then we laid it out in the group chat. Hey, here's the quote that you're going to hit Joe with. If when the Patriots go of 7-0 and it was right there to the point to where I had to leave and I was taking my daughter to a birthday party and I'm telling her no sweetheart, we can't listen to the Frozen soundtrack. Dadda has to listen to this game right now to where I had it cranked up the drive after. I'm waiting to hear.

When's Greggy boy going to talk about everything we laid on the game plan? When is he going to execute all the things that he preaches? We are right there. Right there. And it never got mentioned. And dude, I am literally going outside. It's dusk. And I'm going to get the chickens and get the eggs and feed them for the nighttime.

And my dad texts me and says, Greg Olson is crushing this call right now. Ever since you've had him on the show and I see the fun you guys have, I love listening to Greg Olson call show. And my only text back, did he mention momentum? My only text back to him. Did he mention momentum? And my dad had to break my heart. He had to break my heart. This show lost all of its momentum when you decided not to execute on Sunday.

Exactly. That's fair. That's fair. That's not me. I got a whole year. I don't broadcast again until September. No. I'm done, boys.

What do you mean? We're done. Divisional round. It just goes to the four A crews. Oh, Greg. That's bullshit, dude. You're an A crew. You're an A crew.

You're a crew to us. Well, that means a lot coming from you guys, but I appreciate it greatly. But yeah, we're done, man. I'm like, today's like my exit meeting. And instead of doing my exit meeting with, like, I'm doing my exit meeting with you guys. This is the exit meeting. And honestly, hey, if you want to break it down, you have such great insight on the game. You do great job technically, both on the offense and.

the defensive side of the ball, if there is room to improve, allow the audience to be a part of your broadcast by mentioning momentum. Yeah, the audience as a whole understands the energy and momentum shifts. Speak to him a little bit. There is going to be a rocket ship of momentum

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Fair enough. I do have one question, a real question. Will. Before, because I know everybody's probably like, when we start talking about these football games. A real question. As you're like getting in, is this something that's just contractually laid out and you know no matter what at all times the last game is going to be called divisional round? Or is there a feeling or a sense that it might, that there could be an opportunity or a potential for you to call a game beyond the divisional round? No, it's all preset.

So whenever they went to the, you know, like super wild card where there's, you know, what is it, six games. Yeah. So the way the TV deal goes, well, this year. The main A crews go Fox, CBS, NBC, ESPN, and Amazon. So Prime. So those five. And then there's an extra game. So this year in the broadcast deal, it kind of rotates.

You know, CBS might their second crew might have gotten a game in years past. I want to say last year, like Peacock had a game. So this year, the six slots of Wildcard were the five regular networks, four networks and one streamer. and then Fox had the second, the sixth game. Like the Fox had the sixth game. So that's the way it worked. But then when it goes to the divisional round, it just goes to CBS, NBC, Fox, and ESPN.

So it just goes to the four main. So there's no, there's nothing you can do. It's not, there's no momentum you can build and then lose and then build it back and then lose it again. Yeah, yeah. It's just clear cut. You know we got the wild card this year. and that'll be it. So we've known this all year.

Is there a momentum that takes place in the offseason to where you are looked at as the A crew for next year? Or is that already kind of figured out contractually? Yeah, all these contracts are multi-year. So, you know, Tom's obviously under contract for eight more years with Fox. You know, so it, and then, you know, Romo's under contract and Aikman and Collinsworth, Herb Street.

then obviously all the crews, really the only networks that have like second, third, four, fifth, you know, down the line of multiple crews or Fox and CBS, just because, you know, we're the two networks that broadcast the full slate of games every Sunday. But yeah, all those, all those contracts, no different than playing. All those contracts are multi-year deals are laid out into the future and pretty clear kind of what crew you're on in those. How much longer do you have with Fox? My contract runs out next year.

So I got the 2026 seasons, my last contractual season as of now. Will, we talked about this too. I know, I know. He's going to be a busing guy in two years. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Momentum.

Am I allowed to ask going into your next deal? You'd be looking for, I need to be part of an A team. Am I allowed to ask that? You can ask that. You can ask me anything you want. This is the trust tree. Okay. Yeah, you know, I've been pretty, I've been very open and honest about all of that.

You know, I love doing this. I love talking ball. I love analyzing the game. I love calling the games. It's something now. I just finished my fifth season doing it. And I really enjoy it. You know, I've called playoff games and Super Bowl and, you know, some really cool moments.

And my plan is to do this for as long as people will have me and don't kick me out. You know, the reality about this world is there's only a couple of those top jobs, right? Yeah. Each network has one. And there's only really five networks slash streamers that are in the game as of now. So, you know, those seats don't become open very often. So you kind of, it's really just a waiting game and buying your time and just try to, no different as a player. You just try to do as good of a job as you can in the job that you have at the moment.

And you just hope over time people see it and believe in it and appreciate it. And some do, some don't, but you need one person that really likes the way you do it and feels that you can be an asset. And there's also a big timing element of that. Like, are you available? is the seat available. So for right now, I'm really happy doing what I'm doing, calling games.

I've got a great crew. We call some really cool moments, obviously playoff games and whatnot. So I'll, you know, the rest of that, there's really just like a, an element of you just got to see

how the market opens up. There's a whole lot that you can do. Yeah. If hypothetically, since we're playing the trust tree game, let's just say like a Netflix, got like a slate of games. Like they were,

they were now a part of that group of CBS, Fox, ESPN, all that. and they're like, hey, we need an A-list crew for a game and you're an exclusivity deal with CBS. Would you humor the idea? Let me ask it in a way that you can actually answer. Would there be a buyout that kind of takes place if they were to buy you out and go to like Netflix? Or how would that work if hypothetically there was an option for you to be an A-list guy?

Yeah, so certainly you would entertain those and have to dive deeper into what exactly the role is and the slate of games. And, you know, it's easy to label something as an A job, a B job, a C job. But you really have to just get a framework of what games are you broadcast and what's the platform, what are the days, how many of them compensation. You know, there's like anything, there's elements to the job that make some more and less, some more appealing and some less appealing. If those A level jobs come up, you have those conversations.

Fox has been really clear and open. and very positive with me about like, they want to see me get a job, right? Like, kind of, it's like every head coach that has that really good coordinator, you know, if that coordinator at some point one day earns the opportunity to be a head coach, those head coaches say, you know,

the good head coaches say, we want to create an environment that we can showcase you and get you to the level that you wish to go. And that's how Fox has been to me, both publicly and behind closed doors. So I've been appreciative of that. And if those,

opportunities present themselves, you know, for obviously you would explore it, no different than you would in any other industry. I love that. All right. Now talking football. Hold on. I just want to know real quick. How long do you want to do this before? How long do you want to do this? Like is it until retirement? Troy Noon's. He says you're doing it forever. I want to know what you think. Troy. Yeah. I mean, my plan right now is to, you know, I'll be 41 in March. So I'm relatively young in the TV world. I might be younger than will.

Well, how old are you guys? I'm 36, relax. I'm 34. I'm an old podcaster. I'm a relatively young TV analyst. I guess. You know, I don't know if I have like a set number. Am I going to do this when I'm 70?

Probably not. But I don't see any time soon that this is not something that I continue to pursue and continue to do because I love it. It's fun. It keeps me engaged in the game. I've learned probably more in the last five years than I did in 14 years of playing. The conversations, the access, who you get to talk to, picking the brains of some of the best football minds in the league. I've learned and stolen information from people way smarter than me. And I think that's being able to identify who those people are and what pieces of what nuggets they're giving you that are really good. I think is the key to success in a lot of ways.

And that access that we get as TV analysts has been really fun in that regard. I love that. I do love it as well. Don't steal stuff on the internet. People gatekeep a lot on the internet. Oh, they do? Yeah. That stuff out there.

So, Greg, in your opinion, the games you've watched, because we still have Houston and Pittsburgh tonight, which team do you feel like has the most momentum coming out of the, our weekend it's a great question it's a great it's a great it's a great it's a great question you know i think you know what's so hard other than last night's game which felt like probably beginning of the fourth quarter it felt like the patriots had all the momentum and they weren't going to give it back yep um i feel like that's so outside of the patriots who i felt like won that game handily i had no point that i think the chargers were going to

score a touchdown, let alone two touchdowns to come back. Their offense really struggled, and the Patriots defense was awesome. Your boy, Vrabel, his plan on defense, the way he handled those end-of-game drives over the two-minute warning with the substitutions in slow playing and draining clock. And he really handled the end of the game. I thought he should have went for two to make it 14, but outside of that, I thought he really handled the end of game really well draining that clock on that last possession of the Chargers. the other games were so close, right?

Like, I think you can make an argument that we could have the Panthers and Philly and the Packers could just as likely to be playing next weekend as the teams who won. So I'm not sure if there's a clear-cut favorite. Right now, I think Seattle's sitting pretty good, sitting there a week rested with teams coming to them after having the buy. I think the Rams probably for a non-divisional team probably have the best path. I think they'd much rather go play Chicago coming off that win against the Packers then go play a rested division rival in Seattle that they, you know,

have had two big games against already. So I would say probably the Rams have the best path to the NFC championship. The Rams and the Seahawks would be my bet. Although every time we count out 49ers and McCaffrey and Shanahan, every time we say they have nobody left and they have nobody left and they have no Nobody worth the shit. Our boy, we got to pour one out for our boy. Yeah, that was hard-breaking.

That's what I was going to bring up. So heartbreaking, man. Heartbreaking. I hate it for him. I tried FaceTime on him this morning. He didn't answer. I get it. You know, do I see Seattle, San Francisco going to Seattle and beating them decimated?

No, but we've also canceled, you know, called, you know, counted them out the entire season. So I guess anything's possible. But that was a really bad answer, but I don't, I don't think there is a favorite. I would, I guess if I had a. say it'd be the team that didn't play and it would be Seattle. See, momentum. If you're just looking at it from a strictly momentum standpoint, strictly, hard to not look at the Chicago Bears and go,

that team's got a lot of momentum right now. Based on, yeah, based on the second half being down 213. But what if there was a decline because there's like an emotional letdown? Like how do you quantify that? Very, very real, very real. And like momentum is not a foundational piece. peace. It's something you gain after just like putting down your foundation as a team. And the Bears as exciting as they are and how much momentum they do have. They are a team that needs momentum

in order to continue their playoff run. Like, dude, have we seen a better throw in recent years in that fourth and eight by Caleb Williams? I mean, that was the most incredible throw. I've personally ever watched live and been like, oh my God. This kid is absolutely amazing. And then to go to the next play and have his feet set perfect pocket presence ball high and tight and deliver a ball that sails away from him it's like man if he can just when it when it's when the pockets clean and you're just stepping into your throw like a normal quarterback if you can if you can acquire that skill he be the most dangerous quarterback in the NFL I can teach that I can't teach the first one you can't teach that that that's incredible what he did and he put it perfect

where it needed to go. But the... We'll work on his footwork in the pocket in the offseason. No doubt. You can spend all your life. And that throw he made to his left, off the ground, both feet,

dropping it over his own defender into the bucket on the biggest play of the season. There's two guys in the league that can do that, maybe one. Yeah. And he hit the Jordan logo while throwing a ball. Like it was up, it was perfect. Yeah.

Like, dude, it's... I have become this. Sneaky highlight play of the weekend. I don't think enough people are talking about was McCaffrey's catch on the reverse pass. I didn't see that. The catch on there, you were saying sneaky athletic the way he caught it?

I think that catch in any, you know, we're spending so much time on John Jennings and the throw and the play call, and rightfully so. The catch that McCaffrey, anyone who's ever tracked a ball over their head knows that the ball that lands on your backside ear is the hardest catching football because it's like the Willie Mays, right? It's like behind your

helmet. Then you factor in that ball is thrown by a receiver, 40 yards down the field on a rope in 35 mile an hour winds. Yeah. That ball in the air probably moved six yards. That's crazy. And for a running back, now I know he's unique, but for a running back to track and catch that ball in that moment. I think people just looked at it as like, oh my God, what a throw, what a play. Yes. That catch is so ridiculously hard,

and I don't think people have an appreciation for how hard that was. That catch, the Caleb Williams throw, we saw some plays this weekend. Colby Parkinson's catch to win the game. Yeah. We saw some individual plays that are like, the difficulty level is like through the roof.

Yeah, jaw dropping. Because even on McCaffrey's catch, too, there's that there's that split second of being in a blind spot to where you're kind of throwing your hands at it yeah it's the hardest catching it's the hardest catching football yeah no CMC is unreal staying on the uh the packers bears game did you see the stat that came out with uh you know the in their two games like how many points the bears scored in the first half it was a total of six collectively in their two games and then the second half is like 68 second half in overtime yeah 68 points I mean the fact that the packers were up 21 to three and then you go back you know when

they did take the lead and missed that extra point. It was funny because you said like a momentum, you said something. And I replied under your tweet, like Packers got all the, Packers got the momentum right now. And then I was like, wait,

they just missed the extra point. Missing two field goals as well. Like a collective seven points they left on the field. Yeah. Just, you should have just taken the points though. Yeah, brutal way.

Yeah, take the points. They tried to take the points. I just don't know why the points, they didn't get the points. I know, I know. But a brutal way. It's so crazy.

A brutal way to go out for the Packers. Yeah. Yeah, and it's just, I think they're also the point differential for the fourth quarter this year. Like in the first half, it was, it's, you know, minus something. And then the fourth quarter throughout the totality of the year, it's like plus 122. Yeah. Like, they are, if they could just figure out a way to do that, the whole game. The whole game.

Yeah. But they're two momentum-based. There are two momentum-based bears. Well said. Well-set. Thank you. I thought that called two by Ben Johnson on the last touchdown, were he, they come in, they go tackle over, so the tackle is set to kind of the trip side?

No, was it, was it, it was the pump screen in the fringe area. Lovelland? Yeah, to Loveland, to where they have the tackle over, because they did it earlier in the game to where they have more. No, I think they threw it to DJ Moore, didn't they for the touchdown? Yeah, I was going to say, I thought it, yeah, I thought it was a receiver. Yeah, they threw like, they threw like, bubble, they threw like, unbalanced bubble pump. Unbalanced.

And DJ Moore was wide open for a touchdown. Yeah, because earlier in the game, they set it up. Like, as you guys know, they get the bubble or they get the screening out on the perimeter, tackle screaming out there. They go tackle over to get Big Boe even closer. And then they throw, they fake the perimeter and then go up the field to score a touchdown. I thought that play call was incredible. Yes.

It was peak. Based on the way you described that play, it's the same play that took place in the Bill's Jaguars game. When they did like a bubble screen and I think it was Knox, he went to fake block. And as the guy bit, he just ran up and it was right there for a touchdown. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, some of that play cards. coaching does matter. Look at the four teams left in the NFC.

I mean, look at, just look at who they are. McVeigh, Shanahan, Ben Johnson, Mike McDonald. Yeah. The best, the four best. Coaching matters, quarterback matters, play calling matters. It just matters. Yeah. Staying on the Bears, Loveland.

He has had, I think, after a week six, like, he's really good. He's incredible. I would love to hear, like, your personal breakdown of Colston Loveland as a tight end. I'm glad you asked. So I've always thought there's two camps of NFL tight ends. And this is not a knock on anybody. This is just the reality of the position. There's two camps in the tight end world.

The first camp is, while not easy by any means, the first camp is you are going to be the product of your system in the fact that play action, you're going to catch a lot of like slam flats on bootlegs. You're going to catch play action, shallow drags and crossers. and I'm just going to scheme you open. A couple checkdowns in the passing game on third down. And next thing you know, you look up at the scoreboard.

And you got like four or five catches. I always looked around the league and said, there's probably 30 guys in the league that could have had those catches. There's nothing unique about your route running. There's nothing unique about your separation skills, your leverage, your choppy. There's nothing really unique other than you were in that position and the play dictates you getting the ball.

The next level of guys, right, the Kelsey's and the kittles and the kittles and, you know, Brock Bowers and now this next generation, Colston Loveland, et cetera, et cetera. They then can go above and beyond and they can be flexed out wide like Colston Loveland and run like a fade comeback to the front corner on a defensive back for a critical play on the front left corner of the end zone. He can run separation sail routes and pull away from safeties and track the ball in space. Like those are the guys that you want to find because, yes, they'll catch a couple flats. catch a couple easy checks, a couple OTPs.

Those are, trust me, they all count. I caught a million of them. Can you go above and beyond the play call? And when it's just, hey, you got this route and it's not the perfect look and you got the wrong leverage of the defender, can you flip that leverage? Can you separate? How do you get in and out of the breaks? How do you high point contested catches?

Can you make the plays that aren't just schemed open for you? Those are the guys that are the top tier dudes. And that's Colson Loveland. I thought that coming out of college when they drafted them. Now, we can make an argument whether you draft a tight end 10 or, you know, is it too high, too low? But the bottom line is the dudes a stud. And there's a handful of guys in the league that can play both elements of NFL tight end. And of all the young guys, he's one of the few.

God, that fires me. When you alluded to it, but the fake fade come back to the pylon, that was the two-point play, correct? Yeah. The milk check. The milk check. Which is milk on milk crime. Milk on milk crime. That's heavy cream.

Yeah. That's not. It wasn't fun to watch. But the minute that Chicago lines up for a two-point play, and they're all condensed, you know, big formation, they're in like jumbo package, whatever. And they break out into, you know, whether it's an empty look or three-by-one, whatever it was. And they broke out, and I saw 31, which people are saying that was his only defensive play

of the season. White guy? White guy. 31 jogs out there. And I see Colson Loveland. And when it breaks out, I was sitting on my couch upstairs, my bonus room. And I just, I set up on my couch and I just go, oh, no. Because you know 31's also in hell.

Yeah, 31's also in hell. But nobody from the inside is also starting to fade out there. Like usually when you have some of those situations and maybe you're in cover one and man or rat and you're going to have a guy, whether it's steal somebody underneath, whatever it is. Some safeties you might be sitting out there. Like, I've been in those situations where, hey, if it breaks out and you get this look, Deshawn Goldston or Dante Wittner look over you know in game playing like hey if this happens

I'm going to I'm going to lean towards your side to help you out when I saw that wasn't taking place in the Green Bay secondary and this dude was on his own I was like oh this is a milk check right here my boy's going to get God and he got God and I hated to watch him should get an every team should get an additional timeout when random white guy

gets caught in coverage here's what I'll say to him Here's what I'll say, though. That's so fair. When I first came in the league, maybe you guys too, I think there were rules about that that don't apply anymore, right? Like, when we came into the league, I'll never forget. Like, there wasn't many, but if there was a white guy in the secondary, chances are you were going to go after him. But I think the Cooper DeGines are the world and those, I think maybe those days are changing, right?

Cooper DeGine, first team all pro, or first or second team all pro, like, you're not targeting that dude what was the other thing Riley Moss events what's that I said Riley Moss we're playing Riley Moss so yeah maybe maybe those maybe those rules don't necessarily apply like they did years ago think about every you know Taylor you know every defensive end every white defensive end earlier in your career what was the scouting report a gritty hardworking effort guy he's not going to stop so you got to stand on the whole time this guy he'll look right he not going to run a

by you, not going to win with speak. Yeah. I don't know if that's necessarily the case anymore, right? You've had Hutchinson and you got Bosa and you got all these freaking dudes that are defying that old school adage. So I don't know. I think I think we're moving past slowly, very, very slowly. We're still in the process to where there's an exception to the rule. Yeah. But the rule universally is still alive and well. Again, when I saw 31 go out there, I, I, I, sat up and I was like, oh no. It's over. Yeah, it's over.

And Greg, basically what you're saying is what we've been saying for the last couple of years is we might be up. White boys were kind of making a comeback in the secondary and that's, that's massive. They would have had to have, 31 would have had to have made it very competitive for Loveland to catch that football. For it to be like, we're seeing a good competitive rep out. But as we've already identified, that's a heavy cream play. Yeah, that's, yeah.

Yeah, white on white there. That's a tough matchup. But the point is there's very few tight ends in the league that are going to go out and run. Like I call those, like he's running real routes, right? There's a difference between running routes and running real routes. And that was a real route. And multiple times throughout the game, he's running real routes. He's tracking the ball 20 plus yards down the field in the air, downfield passing game.

Like, that is, there's a difference. Not all catches are the same. They all get counted the same. But anyone who watches it and knows it, they're not. all equal in difficulty and equal in ability and what you need to be able to do. Oh, buddy.

He's a stud now. Buddy, it's like, you know, you're in the milk section at the grocery store. There's a difference between organic grass-fed whole milk and the two percent or the skim milk by prairie farm sitting at the end. Yeah. There's just, there's levels to this. There's different levels. Well, I'm not

just saying he's good for a white guy. No, no, no, no, but listen. Right. We all know know what it's like when Did you see his, when the culture comes out? What do you do? You never saw his rookie talent show? No. I know what happened.

Did you ever see Aiden Hutchinson do Michael Jackson? Yes. No. You were saying that? Do you actually see it? You got to have any idea what I'm talking about? Hutch out there dancing on every commercial he's on. So I, yeah.

Hutch, so we got to start evaluating these guys. Like the first, they should at the combine, they should have these guys get up and say like, all right, you just got drafted, get up in front of the team room and show me because Hutchinson was awesome. I think he did like Billy Jean. Great. Turned out to be a great player. Colson Loveland sang some, I can't remember off the top of my head.

It was excellent. Like standing ovation, excellent. So I think the signs were there early that he was going to be a good player. We've all, all three of us have been in a moment where it's, whether it's college or high school. For me, it was college. When you come up, the culture comes up to you and be like, hey, you're pretty X, Y, and Z for a white guy. 49ers in the Eagles, man. I feel like the Eagles is a perfect segment for our taste of the off season.

Because the Eagles have had ups and downs all year. And there's always been this. They'll get it figured out. They'll get it. Don't worry. They have so much talent on their roster. Look at their defense and how great they are. They got two number ones at wide receiver.

They got Sequin Barclay. They got Dallas Goddard in the back who's the top five tied in, you know, top ten at the very least. And then they fumble the back against a team that loses George Kittle early. Trent Williams is playing injured. They have a bunch of guys just riddled with injuries and they fall. Is it finally time that we can just sit there and admit, hey, there was an issue taking place behind closed doors with the Eagles. Will I'll start with you.

You already know my stance. I don't got to admit nothing. I sat there in this battered as box. There's a reason that every time I came out with the top five in the AFC and top five in the NFC, that Eagles barely sniffed it because it was always going to be one and done in my head. It was always, like they have an elite defense. So Fangio and what they do defensively, you know they're going to be in games. And that went, it was sitting there.

The group chats were firing up and everything else to where Orloski was like, massive drive for this group chat because Jalen Hertz had the ball. There was a two minute drive. They were in position to go down there and win this game. But all year long, you've seen what's come out of that camp as far as what's going on internally and everything else to where you knew there were things going on offensively to where this team ain't built to win the Super Bowl. this year. They had an incredible year last year. They have a lot of great talent on that roster,

even this year. Like, they're going to be fine in the future. But I feel like you're really, you're able to dial in more of whether it's offensive creativity. There's so many things that went on offensively for the Philadelphia Eagles that the optimism is it's more glaring than ever because it's not like, oh, what about when we beat the Rams? Oh, what about when we beat the Buccaneers? And oh, what about when we beat all these good teams that they did beat in the regular season? But I feel like anybody who's who was diving in. which I feel like a lot of us were, but it was hard to just say this team is a pig with lipstick. This team is everything else because, again, they were continuing to win games in the NFCE,

which wasn't a very good division this year. But the fact that they did go one and done against a Niners team who's been ridden with injuries and you lose kiddle early, and you're kind of like, it was a tight game. It's like, are they going to come out of this and survive this game? But the fact that they did lose, it was one of those things like, yeah, this writing was on the wall basically all year long. We just had to kind of sit in the pocket because they were, again, they were coming out with wins, with Ws in the win column. And even though it was happening through field goal blocks and everything else, like, they're a very good roster and a very good football team.

But it was like, I'm sitting there. You know at the end of the game, I was kind of sitting there with a smile on my face. Like, Clumps, like, I'm surprised you're being so nice to me this morning with the Eagles losing. I'm like, bro, it was more of like, we knew this was coming. It was going to be just when was it going to happen? Was it going to be in the first game of the playoffs if they had home games and kind of had like maybe an easier stretch

get to the championship game? But in no part of my mind that I think this team was going to be built to win a Super Bowl this year. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's well said. I don't debate, I don't push back on anything you just said.

The only thing I would add is I've said probably on the show a hundred times and I do believe you never give up on talent to some regard, right? Because when you look at that roster and you factor in that of the 22, two, the dichotomy of the two teams, everything San Francisco has been through and the guys that are sitting up in suites and sitting in the press box and standing on the sideline

and street clothes that are like marquee star players. And then when you look at Philadelphia, only Lane Johnson, 21 of their 22 first game, week one starters were healthy, ready to rock in that lineup. Like that was the healthiest, arguably the best, you know, one of the top two or three rosters in the league. And for the most part, their top line guys were all there with the exception of Lane. So there's no question that's a under achievement, right? There's no question that getting knocked out by a team at, you know, losing a game at home, a team San Francisco, albeit they still got Purdy, they still got McCaffrey, they got, you know, two of the best coaches in the league and Shanahan and Salas. I mean, they still got stars, but that team is decimated.

That defense that they played against, that they couldn't score in the second half against, was playing guys that weren't on the team three weeks ago. I mean, they're down to like linebacker five, six, you know what? Like, it's remarkable what San Francisco was going to do. And at the same time, there's no question it's an underachievement. There's going to be change. It's not going to be Siriani. And I agree that he should not go.

I mean, he's won more than maybe anybody in history. Two several experiences and five. You're like, yeah. So that's a non-starter to me. Yeah, that's a non-starter to me. but there'll be staff changes for sure, especially on offense. Yeah. A lot of things that are getting me by surprise is people calling for the floor's job right now.

Yeah, that's so stupid. I think it's wild to even go down that road. And who was it? Coward, he brought up a great point. It's like Packers fans don't understand like the last 30 years. You've had Brett Favre and Aaron Rogers, and you've got two Super Bowls and one other appearance. You've been in the Super Bowl three times.

in those 30 years, and you're calling for his head already. Like, they had injuries. You can make an argument of Michael Parsons plays in that game. And it's, I just think that trying to get rid of the floor is crazy. To that point, let me ask you guys this. Say today LaFleur was let go. Who becomes immediately the number one coaching candidate in this hiring cycle? Immediately, one, it's tough because Harbaugh.

Harbaugh is also in there. So you don't think it's close. The offensive. No, no, I think it's, I'm not arguing that. It's not close. I think John Harbaugh is a phenomenal coach. I'm not debating that. You know how I feel about the guy calling the plays.

Yeah. Yeah. I think that becomes an extra check. I think you look at, you look at Philadelphia. Look since Nick Siriani took over. He originally called plays, gave it up the Shane Steichen. They go to the Super Bowl. They lose.

Stiking gets hired as the head coach of Indianapolis. He brings in Brian Johnson. They have a regression. He gets fired. They bring in Kellan Moore. They have incredible success. They win the Super Bowl. He gets a head job.

Now they promote Kevin Petulow. So since Nick Siriani took over, he had himself, Stuyken, Brian Johnson, Kellan Moore, Kevin Petulow. He's about to have his sixth offensive play caller. Yeah. It's not sustainable. Nobody has lost more coaches than Sean McVeigh. But guess who calls the plays? Sean McVeigh.

Every day. The only guy. that's called plays for Matthew Stafford when all these guys are leaving and all these guys are getting interviews and he's going to lose multiple guys this year, but you never lose him. So again, I'm not saying John Harborough is not a phenomenal coach.

His track record, his record, all that speaks for itself. I'm just saying if you have success which you plan on having, what is your answer to replacing your play caller over and over and over again? Right. It's a phenomenal point.

It really is. Because there's going to, it's Like you can say that and then also say, yeah, you know Coach L'Fleur and the staff's going to look back at how they went about everything in the second half. Maybe it's aggressive play call it, whatever it is. But that's something that you can learn from, fix, and get better at because you still have the foundation that's there, which is being Coach Loflure. Yeah, and you have a great roster. Like, your roster coming back next year is awesome. Yeah, Jordan loves a beast. Like you mentioned Favre and Aaron Rogers.

Jordan Love is a monster. Yeah. Like he is good. And you look at the development again, even to Coach Loflour, like, you know, like, you. like, you know, fighting for Coach Willis for, but look at what happens when you lose Jordan Love for a few games and you got Malik Willis coming in. Like, what was his reputation when he got to Green Band?

And look how this dude performs and operates, even when your superstar quarterback is not there. Just to speak of Malik Willis's development, like I was with him his first year at the Tennessee Titans, and the dude didn't know the plays. He didn't know the checks. He didn't know where to go. And it was very clear and obvious,

which ended up having to let him go. And you see him come in now. It's like, that is a product of Matt, Matt Lafleur. Yeah. And that's just, it shows how much he does for quarterbacks. And I love the take on the play con because you're absolutely right. It's great to have like a CEO type that can handle like,

like Serionic can clearly handle the personalities. I know him and AJ had a little back and forth in this last game, but he handles personalities really well, which is a big thing for a head coach. But having when people leave and the product you put on the field doesn't change because your ability to take on things, that's unbelievable. That's what you want right there. And we said this about your boy,

Vrable, when I called their game in week 18 against the dolphins. This is just my opinion. If you gave me a magic wand and I was an owner and I got to hire my staff, my number one would go out and find you, McVeigh, a Shanahan, Liam Cohen, an offensive mind who also can communicate and lead and coach the entire locker room and not just call plays, right? Like, I don't want a play caller as my head coach.

I want a head coach who's a play caller. Yeah. The second best option is Vrable, right? Vrable CEO type, highly organized, has been there before, has had success. You saw him handle the end of that game last week because he's not in the headset having to make every single schematic call, right? He's letting coordinators call. He's managing the game, managing the managers. The advantage that he has, especially on the offensive side of the ball, where it really matters,

is he has like the bounce pack former head coach play caller and Josh. McDaniels. That's a very unique standpoint where Drake May is a potential MVP candidate and Josh McDaniels is most likely not going to interview for a job. Right. So if you can get like the former head coach who's kind of had his opportunities and now he's bounced back. That's Andy Reed with Steve Spagnola, right?

For all the success that Andy Reid has had, only Matt Nagy has really gotten an opportunity to be a head coach unless I'm forgetting somebody. Yeah. On the office side of the ball. Right. Spags. on the off, and then Spaggs, who's been the architect of that defense, which I would argue is the only reason they had that long sustainability because the offense started the fall. Spaggs got all those young defensive guys and took them back to the Super Bowl in year one. Spaggs interviews, but does anyone really think Spags is going to get a head coaching job? Right, right. He could. Do you think that's, is it way more, is it way more offensive than defensive? In your opinion, as far as the calling of the plays goes?

I just think it's easier to find defensive coaches. I think defensive coordinators and former defensive head coaches get fired more frequently, and they're just available, right? I mean, you look around the league at guys, I mean, let's just look at this playoff cycle. In just this season, you got Robert Sala. He just become, the 49ers defense really struggles last year, and Robert Sala becomes available the year before that, Steve Wilkes, former head coach.

was available. Yeah. You know, you look at Vic Fangio, former head coach, was at the Dolphins. Somehow the Dolphins let him walk, and he just becomes magically available. Flores. Flores.

You know, it's just Jonathan Gannon now becomes. You know, he took that first year that the first year that Philadelphia went to the Super Bowl that they lost to Kansas City, Shane Steaking got the job in Indy, and Jonathan Gannon, who was the D-Corps, he got the head job in Arizona. he just got fired. So he's going to be someone's dec Coordinator.

You just go on and on and on. I think, I'm not saying defensive coordinators is easy. But Mike McDonald has had incredible success in two years, and he's about to hire his most likely Kubiak's going to get a head job. And now in two years, he's going to have, after two years, he's going to have to have three different coordinators. Yeah. Yeah.

Grubbs made it one year. He fired him because he didn't like it. He went back to college. Gets Clint Kubiak, who's just available because they, They all got canned in New Orleans, and he has a great year. It lasted one year. He's got to go find a new guy now. How about Ben Johnson?

He's got Dennis Allen. I was going to say Dennis Allen's another one. So you can just go on and on and on, right? Like, there's just more of the veteran defensive guys to become coordinators than there are offensive guys. Because chances are if those guys are probably still head coaches somewhere. Yeah. It is wild. Let me ask you, you think Josh Allen.

and this Buffalo Bills team is going to get over this hurdle of having to travel to Denver and face this defense. Yeah, I mean, I'd rather play Denver than at this point. I think I'd rather play, if I'm Josh, if I'm Josh Allen, as good as Denver's defenses, I think if I had to pick, I'd rather play Denver in Denver than New England than New England. Right? I think that's a better matchup. So I think them going in the divisional round to Denver,

I think I'm on Buffalo. I said, all right, I can do this. I mean, am I sitting here saying they're going to guarantee? I don't know. I've said all year I'm not giving up on Josh Allen ever. I don't care what the roster looks like. I don't care what their game flow looks like. The defense, do they have any weapons?

They got Josh Allen. And he is a generationally talented, unique, not just quarterback, just all-round football player. And I mean, you saw it clear as day yesterday. Yeah, Josh Allen, dude, he is, he's truly one of one. Like, if he's on the Jaguars roster, that game is, it's a blowout. It's an absolute blowout that takes place. And it's no, that's, I feel like people that would say, oh, Trevor Lawrence, like,

no, I'm not trying to disrespect for Trevor Lawrence. I'm trying to give massive flowers to Josh Allen, because that's the scary thing about this Bill's team is you can run on them. They have the number one pass defense, which is great, but you can run on them very easily. Their wide receiving crew is probably a bottom five wide. to receive and crew in the NFL. Gabe Davis just gets hurt yesterday on a hit that it seemed like he, I know this is an allegedly, but it looks like he had another big, massive knee injury and had to get

helped off the field and then carded to the locker room. So they're decimated once again in that position group. But Josh, dude, he has the ability at any point to put the cape on and run through anyone. He can be anybody. And this is Bo Nix's first time walking into a playoff situation, regardless of it's at home or not, like that pressure is different. You see it with Drake May a little bit With the score of that game

He played well But it wasn't like You know throwing points on the board Over and over again So I could definitely see Josh Allen Going into Denver And catching them in a bit of a lull I don't know like how old that team is

But just knowing that their quarterback is In his second year In the NFL like that gives me a lot of room for pause Thinking like Josh Allen really has The easiest path he has had Ever to make it to the Super Bowl Yeah The Denver's defense is for real.

They are for real. Their defense is for real. There's no question. And Sean Peyton can coach his ass off on offense. Listen, I'm not saying any, you get to the divisional rounds. There's no such thing as an easy matchup. There's no such thing as a good matchup. There's some that are better than others on paper.

So, yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, I can go on and on about how good Josh Allen. I mean, look at what Brandon Cooks did. Brandon Cooks wasn't even on the roster a couple weeks ago, and he had the play of the day. He kept their season alive with that long explosive down the middle that set up the end of the game. What's crazy? You know, the tush push and all that. What's crazy is that tush push you brought up like the bills were on the side of banning the tush push last year. Yeah, it was ironic.

And then they ran it for what, six yards? Yeah, that was unbelievable. Unreal. To the point where they didn't score and I'm thinking myself, that's actually a really good thing. They didn't score. They probably should took more time off the clock. But it's like, that was insane that you were able to do that just now. But also like the Jaguars and Will, you got to give Will a lot of credit because, you know, I think it was early, like middle September, he's like, bro, I'm telling you the Jaguars are a sneaky team. And me and my Tennessee Titans brain is like, no, they're not. And you watch that game and we've already talked about the wide receivers. But every time the wide receivers caught the ball, they're getting tackled immediately. Open space, the first guy is bringing them down. Like they're an extremely well-coached football team. And I think where they lost it was getting into the past a little too much with Trevor Lawrence, who clearly was having a non-momentum type of day.

like their momentum was clearly on the run game. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They stay. Fair enough. They stay sneaky. But yeah, that defense now is serious. They're good.

Yeah. Yeah. Josh Allen's just a freakazoid. Yeah, unreal. And, you know, it's like you're sitting there. We got to watch so many good games, so many lead changes. And when Jacksonville took the ball, it's like, all right, this can be like a Trevor Lawrence legacy game.

Yep. And to see the ball hit the hands, get tipped up and get picked off on that first. First play. Oh. That's like heartbreaking. Oh. And then everyone's going to put that on Trevor Lawrence, but it's like...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they get this... I'm just glad it didn't backfire on Buffalo because I think they would have taken some heat for how they handled that goal line situation. Yeah, right? You take as much time off the clock as you can because they had all their timeouts, right?

Yeah, so Jacksonville had all their timeout. Well, no, Jacksonville only had... No, Jacksonville was out of timeouts. Right. Jacksonville took their last timeout on the tush push that originally was ruled a touchdown. Then they ruled correctly. that he was down short of the goal line.

Instead of taking a 10-second runoff, Jacksonville elected to use their final timeout. So there was like a minute and two, and they were at a timeouts. And the broadcast talked about it, and everyone's sitting at home, it's like, you know, you saw Verrable do it a couple weeks earlier in the season,

took a knee slash, like, just fall down. Yeah. You know on first down Jacksonville is going to let you score. Right. So can you take, can you just fall down and leave it and say I got second goal, third and goal, fourth and goal. Even at Jacksonville now, once you run that first play and you run the play clock down, now Jacksonville's going to try to have a goal line stand because their opportunity of possessing

the ball now is irrelevant. Buffalo had timeout, so they could have still run timeout and handled the end of the game. So fortunately for them, it didn't matter. Trying to run off another 30 seconds, 30 to 40 seconds is probably the right move. But again, we judge all of these decisions. the outcome and when the outcome goes your way nobody talks about the decision and that's just the nature of the business yeah and it's bro could you imagine if they took that approach where they kind of just fall down take 30 or 40 seconds off the clock call a time out and then go for it you know

two three times don't get it and get stopped the conversation we would be happening right now would be the that's the post game press conference right that's the post game press conference now yeah and it's a that's a perfect example of of like having the stones to do that. I don't think head coach is thinking that at that moment. They're probably just thinking score. No. Yeah.

No, I don't think McDermott seriously consider doing it. I think, again, it's easy to sit here now and say coulda, should have. The part that's hard to predict is you anticipate on first down that Jacksonville is going to say let them score. But what you don't want is say they don't. Say they blow up your center. and you try to take a knee and Josh Allen gets knocked back and now instead of first and goal at the half yard line, it's first in goal at the yard and a half, two.

Say you lose a yard. Now you're like, holy shit, it's second in goal from the two. And now Jacksonville hunkers down. So like I think there's always that fear in the back of your head. It's just a lot easier to say, we scored, we gave them the ball, I trust my defense. And if they go down and kick a game tying field goal, or God forbid a touchdown.

You stand there and say, hey man, our defense has to play better. We got to do a better job in two minute, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's an easier conversation. People are more comfortable.

We've seen that happen a million times. Could you imagine, to your point, of blowing first and goal at the half because you got cute, that fear is real. Yeah. That's a good, like I can see that being a Friday,

Friday tape. Friday tape going over a certain situation. Because another one that I was hitting Greg on was, I want to say it was the, was it the Niners? Niners, they were up by four. They score and they went and kicked the extra point. And I'm like, hey, you go for two there, right? Like it was in the fourth quarter. You go for two there to try and make it six instead of four because you're kind of in no man's land with four and five, four and five point.

Try and go for two and make it six because you, number one, just in the hopes of seeing, you know, if, if the Eagles were to score missing the extra point. but you also witnessed the Eagles missing an extra point earlier in that game. Yeah. That was one. Yeah, so that's actually a fun one. So you guys want to dive into that because it's actually a fun conversation. Okay. Yeah.

In that situation, the kicker had already missed an extra point. He had missed multiple extra points all season long. That specific moment, that team, yes, I think I would have tried to go up by six instead of you score a touchdown on me. I'll hope that you yank the extra point again. at least gives me a chance, right? If I'm up five, your kicker, you know, his kick doesn't have any real bearing on winning and losing.

Yeah. The next level to that conversation. So put that aside for a second, because I agree with Will. Put that aside. The next conversation is a little bit more in depth. And this is where the argument of kicking to stay up five because you don't want to be up four, being up five is better than being up four. So the guy, let's say he makes the extra point.

Right. The notion comes down to do you feel more comfortable getting a two-point conversion or stopping a two-point conversion? Right? Because when I go up five, everyone goes, well, you want to be up. The argument for kicking the extra point is, well, I want to be up five because I'm up four. Now your touchdown puts you up three. If you go down and score on me, you go up three. Now field goal ties the game.

Okay. But if I, but if I'm up five and you score, you're going to go for two to try to go up three anyway. So you're either going to be up one or three. Yeah. So do you want to defend a two point? Do you want to kick an, do you want to go for a two point, defend a two points? So that one, there is some layers, but there's a lot to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like you're making the decision to just kick the extra point because it's like, hey, if we go for this two point conversion and fail, and we're still only up four, their extra point puts them up three. Do we want to, yeah, do we want to defend? We feel good about defending an extra point versus stopping them on a two-point conversion. Correct. A lot of, so many layers.

So many layers. Another situation too, and Green Bay, into the game when they're driving and their offensive linemen goes down. You got to find it. You got to get off the field. And he knows what his injury was, but unless you're done,

I remember I, the court's got to come out or you got to be dead. We were playing Tampa We were playing Tampa one year And William Goldston Who I have a lot of history with He like

After the end of play Kind of like flips me over his shoulder And elbows me in the testicles And I'm like rolling around the ground And I'm not realizing It's not competing my brain Like you're in four minutes You have to get up right now

And they blow the whistle They come out and I just got hitting the ball So I run over to the sideline And Rabel tore me up part about that in team meetings. So it's like no matter what, unless there's a bone out, you need to like not have that clock stop at that point.

Right, right, right. That is like the conversation that coaches are telling you. Like you better, the stretch or something better be happening. You better be dead or some massive situation. Because that tends to get a runoff, kill them. You know, that take and take a runoff, like you could always play like, what could have should have, what could have happened? It's like, I think there's a really strong chance that Packers win that game then.

Possibly, but they're just, again, they're able to operate a little bit. with just knowing you got 10 extra seconds on the clock. Yes, exactly. Whether or not they score, it's like every backup, everybody has to be so in tune where if you do have a situation like that, my man's crawling off to feel in,

they're yelling and they're cheering for them to get off on the sideline, the backup better be ready to just to sprint in. That's the entire operation of everything. They're like variable definitely teaches and coaches, but everybody being so dialed in, in tune and prepared for a game so that way you can manage the game

to the best of your ability. Because it sucks that he got hurt, but you got to find a way to get off that field, or you jog down just to survive a spot, whatever it is, you just gotta find, you can't stay laid up on the ground. And then when I saw him walk off, I'm like, oh, he just,

this motherfucker. That's, you can't have that. Can't have it. No doubt. Dude, Miami. Killing it. You did it. You're in the national championship.

And you were out there for the game. That was fun. Yeah, I went out there just for the quick up and back and it was awesome. Dude, I mean, Krista Ball, the whole thing conversation we're having a couple weeks ago about it. I just can't believe that Miami, who, what, they finished third in the ACC? Yeah. Has just been doing it, man. And I literally get into the dance. Bro, I was on ESPN and Greenie looked at me and he goes, uh, it's two minutes

left in the game. Carson Beck has the ball in his hands. They have to score to win a touchdown. What happens? And I go, Ole Miss will go to the national championship if that has happened. And I basically kind of just throw Carson, uh, Carson Beck under the bus. And only to see, him do that exact situation and put it in my face, bro. Just dot it around because it was the perfect. I want to say maybe there was three minutes left because me, JP and Clumper sitting up there. I'm like, this is Carson Bex got the ball.

This is what we went over. It's essentially what we went over and get up earlier that day. Earlier that day. I'm happy for it, man. It's been a fun ride and I hope they can pull it off one more. You going to the last one? Yeah, we're going to take the family down. We're going to go down there and ride it.

Did you tell Chris Ball? Just tell them, don't upload anything to the cloud. Have you been seeing that? No. What does that mean? There's like whispers and rumors and allegedly that Indiana has like an advanced Conner Stallion's operation going on. Oh, oh, yeah.

Oh, I thought you were talking about something different. My kids told me about that. I don't buy it. It's like hacking into comms. A lot of things, like stuff to upload with the cloud. Like there's a lot, there's a conspiracies and people are tying it. Mark Cuban, he's an owner of Catapult, the GPS system that, basically the majority of teams use.

And when that data gets uploaded, a lot of stuff going on. That would be tough. I'm staying out of it. I'm not saying it's truth. I'm not saying it's truth at all. I'm staying out of that. All right.

What do you think Miami's chances are? Like, are you, right now the line is, I think, seven and a half. Indiana is favored by seven and a half points. The last time I looked at it. How do you feel? We got all the momentum. I don't think you do.

I don't know. Momentum. Momentum is. Did you see that asshole? Big Nettie put on landing. We got all the momentum. We got all the momentum, boys. Eight and a half favorite now.

So Indiana's gone to eight and a half. Even better. Is it? Now they're gonna lose their momentum because they're getting high on themselves. Yeah, they're flying a little too close to the sun. Like the Rams almost did against Carolina. All right, Greg, you're the man, bro.

Thank you for tag for rock. All right, man. I'll talk to you guys, talk to you next week. See you, Bob. Appreciate you. Love you. Love you, love you. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to interrupt this episode

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But did you see it? Have you seen it? I saw Carson Beck. Have you guys been seeing it? Well, the stuff coming out with the, not coming out like it's truth, but the stuff that's going on the whisper.

We were texting about that, weren't we on Saturday? Yeah, yeah, I did see like, I think it was Friday or something like that. Like I saw like an account that I, I,

it was like Indian has an event scouting, Connor Stallions kind of taking place. And I went to the account and the account had like three and a half thousand followers. And I was like, nah, this to me isn't enough to. There's more accounts,

I will say, whispers have been there, but more underground. This was the first weekend to where I feel like profile, like people out there are talking about it in a louder, with a louder voice. And again, I have no fucking clue. I'm not, because I've loved the fantasy about like talking with all the Indiana fans, seeing what they've done,

how they flipped and turned the program around and potentially staring at a 16 and no season. I think we sleep on the fact that we might not witness a 16 and no potential season with the parody and everything coming to college football. So the history that Indiana is making I've loved the story I've loved everything else But it's hard

You see everybody going back and boy Miami now you're picking it up Because again you got all the banter All the fandom kind of arguing back and forth and debating articles being written out Defending it So you just see the noise getting louder The noise is growing

Where people are already figuring out a way To put an asterisk on Indiana's One national championship Already trying to Already trying to And dude if you're just sitting back As a fan and people are really breaking down That Indiana when Kurt Sidney took over

Indiana football was a losingest football program in D1 history ever. And he has lost two games in his career. Yeah. His career as a head coach. Like, if they win this national championship, there's already an argument in my mind to be like, is Kurt Signetti the greatest head coach of all time? And that includes Nick Saber.

There's, dude, just think about it. Like, Nick Saban, Nick Saban, he went to the championship to LSU, correct? Person of the moment. Easy, but I know. This is, and I will, that's a. perfect thing. This is a prisoner of the moment type of thought process. But just stick with me here and whoever's watching and listening. You can comment your opinions. This is just the avenue I go down. Is Nick Saban, he was at LSU, right? He wins a national championship. Goes to Miami, comes back.

He doesn't, he goes to Alabama, which is always got great players. Always. They have four or five star guys. Indiana, and the stat you brought up in ESPN is incredible to where these schools have like 60-something blue chip players that are four and five star guys. Indiana doesn't have any five stars and they have seven four stars and they're the they don't make mistakes. They know every situation perfectly. They have a quarterback that was like a like a two star three star coming out of high school. He's a surgeon. He's a surgeon. And it's just there's no way to look at this and look at the roster talent and be like, oh, Kurt Signetti. Like he might be the greatest of all time. He might be the goat.

I think that's where it separates because I would die on this hill that this is the greatest coaching job we've ever seen, like a turnaround season, stuff like that. But the separation would be the sustainability and longevity. I mean, Saban, seven college football national championships. Like, they started winning those natties at Alabama when he was there, like starting in 2009. You got 09-20, 2011, 12, 15, 17, 20.

The sustainability and culture and everything that he built. Like, there's a legacy factor that he has there. The legacy right now, Indiana finishes 16 and 0, the legacy is going to be statue. Like, I'm sure there'll be a movie about this one day because it is unreal. Again, when we're talking to these Indiana fans, the gratitude and just they're so hyped to be there just to cheer on their team. They travel very well. And all of them across the board is just that it's unreal to them. One guy was like, it's like a dream on top of a dream.

It's like a dream beyond a dream. Oh, he's inception. Yeah, yeah. And the way his eyes are moving around as he's trying to. explaining. I'm like having conversations with the fans and they're just, they're all so nice and so appreciative and just so fired up that this has happened with their school. Like it's, it's unprecedented what Chris Signetti has done at Indiana for in these first two years. Right. So for him to be like the goat of college football. I love the framing of this might be the best, what you say,

coaching? Yeah, the greatest coaching job we've ever seen. That greatest coaching job we've ever seen. And that is, I think, already done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We go also the outcome of this national For sure, yeah, I feel you. To go from the worst to arguably the best. And again, the last thing, anything that they won of substance was 1945. Yeah. And when we were talking about on ESPN, it's like since 2000, they've had 20 or 21 losing seasons. It is incredible what this team has done.

The thing that I saw, I saw, was it Josh Payee? He's saying that Indiana has the nicest fan base of all time. You telling that story just now. And it's like, these fans truly are living in a world of gratitude where like, we're just so happy to be here as opposed to maybe some other fan bases that have been, you know, we should. We need to be in this position. That's kind of program we are. I wonder how long this success needs to be sustained for the fan base to change to be like, yeah, yeah, this is what we do. You know?

They have a four-loss season. Like, well, I think we need a can signet. Dude, I think he's lost his juice. It would be crazy to see because I really feel like this fan base, I'm so happy that they're getting to feel this moment because I'm sure if you're like, if you're born into being an Indiana Hoosiers fan, you're probably given a certificate being like, hey, this is a good therapist you could possibly have. Trust me, it's not going to go well, but this is your, this is your, and now you get to live in it, which is just mind blowing to me. And again, like in America, football is the most popular sport. Like just imagine being like generations. A dude was wearing. wearing a bracelet talking about how it was his dad's and how much he just loved football in Indiana football even though they were no good and he's now wearing it because it's like a generational thing and the thought of like I'm here because I know he'd want me to come to this game like the most popular sport in America and for all all you've ever known your grandparents

everybody all you've never known is man we'll never get to like sniff success the way we see all these fan bases have fun to now it being a spot to like hey family pack your bags we are going down to Atlanta to watch us in the in the semifinals of the college football playoff. Now it's like we're going to, we're going to this national title like this is crazy. Who knows how long this will last? This is insane the feeling we get to have rooting on this football team. Some would argue before Indiana has gone on this run. The biggest thing in Indiana is the Brickyard 400 or the Indy car race that happens there.

I mean, their basketball team has been all their. They got the movie Hoosiers. But like still like that's that was the biggest thing that everybody. in Indiana would look forward to. Now it's like they have a football team. Yeah. They got a ball club. It's incredible.

A ball club that like I'm trying, like Miami has things that could definitely equalize the game, but I don't see a lot of avenues for Miami to win this game. Like outright win. It is so rare for a situation like this for these Indiana fans for this program to not only have this turnaround, but to also not be the sweetheart in the situation. they are beating people's asses. Like they're the big dog walking. And fucking Signetti goes,

we don't just beat top 25 teams. We beat their ass or something like that. Like he is calling shots, the Google me, the hang- That shot was called, I think before they got Wooped by Notre Dame last year. Yeah,

which is funny. Yeah, because somebody tweeted that, like, never wrong just early. Yeah. Because now they've had like five top 10 teams that they've just mowed down over and over.

So yeah, it's fucking wild to see. And Kurt Signetti is the perfect guy that if you're not a fan of just watching the storyline, he's the perfect guy for you to hate. Yeah. He's perfect. You've got, you've got his antics and notions and soundbites along with Fernando Mendoza's like, unquestionably jovial, exciting. Like just, you could just tell he's just so happy to be there.

And it's funny, man. I've never heard the Heisman be called a team award before. I've never heard the MVP be called the team award before. Fernando Mendoza hit that three or four times in his, in his Heisman speech. Now Drake May and Matthew Stafford, I've both heard them recognize the MVP as a team award. And I could be totally off on this. I've never heard that before. To where it's like, this kid's really just making it all by the team.

This kid is really what football should totally be about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. That juices you up a little bit. I know Miami's going to obviously have an uphill battle. They're eight and a half point underdogs. gonna have to be a fiscal game. Like if they got them anywhere, it's at the line of scrimmage.

I'm between Bain and Mezzador and then on the offensive line, the size, bro, like getting the watch and see. And we were up in a... Yeah, tell me about that guy. We were up in a suite. Like, we got to see him warming up pregame and everything else,

but even up in a suite and I'm sitting down there and it's the left tackle. I forget his number, maybe number 70. I'm just like... I'm looking for this size. No, no, Miami. You know, like Maui...

Yeah, he's gonna be a first round pick. He's like a top 10-time. Are you talking about Oregon? No, I'm talking about Miami. Isaiah, they have like a first rounder guy that's number 61, but just the size and the beef of this Miami football team is wild to see in person. I don't know if the whites that are making of the white jerseys, the uni's making them look massive,

but like this is a massive football team. And they just, they obviously have the skill, they have talent across the board. But what they have up front and that defense plays salty now, salty bro. They will have to go up against Indiana who has been surgical in both offense. and defense. They are physical.

I remember it's like they were talking about them going out to Oregon the first game, the defensive coordinators on Twitter, responding back to people talking about how they're undersized and this, that, the other. Like that's a physical team who plays very well with their eyes. They're always insanely prepared. Before that Oregon game, that red zone defense had only allowed 23 attempts in their red zone across the

entire season. Their offense got in the red zone like 68 times, but they only allowed 23 attempts in their red zone. red zone and only allowed from those 23 attempts six touchdowns there haven't been a team outside of like two games where they allowed more than one touchdown Oregon got one or two there late in the game when the game was already done and over but the defense for Indiana is for real Mendoza is a surgeon they run the ball well bro that running back I'm forgetting his name number eight oh black black yeah running behind that line of scrimmage they push piles he

finds lanes like they are physical. They celebrate hard. They just seem like they have the most fun that they know they're out there whooping team's asses. And Mendoza puts the ball in perfect windows, bro, in perfect spots. Hey, how about the back shoulder throws those I was telling you about? And bro, every time I was out of it, I'm like, there's that back throw to number 13. Yes.

Serrat. When I was watching the film before we did ESPN and talk about it, I'm watching, I'm like, I'm watching, I have to talk to you? Because I have no idea how you defend that play. How if you were in one-on-one. and you're in press coverage, and you get a corner to turn his shoulders to the opposite side, to his backs to the quarterback,

there's no way to defend that play, bro. And Fernando puts the ball in the perfect spot every time, and I'm watching from Vegas. I'm just sitting there being like, I hope Will is, like, seeing this in real time, because I was very vocal about it. Like, this is the way they march on the field. I was like popping up every time.

It's like, there it goes again. And it can be well contested. Sarat just has, he has incredibly strong hands. Bro. Like the dude still comes. comes down with it. It's so impressive. Surratt's from, he transferred to JMU. He's from St. Francis, which is a school in Philly.

They are declassifying from D1 to D3. That's how kind of bad that they are. He transferred from there to, I think, JMU and then came with Signetti to Indiana. So he was like a D1A guy, and now is just routing up five stars. Dude, and they have the ability, like, is it Omar, Cooper?

Yeah. Like that kid also, like, Like they, when you talk about the game of momentum, like a lot of these cats, if they were to be at a JMU still or other schools, like not having this sustained success, the confidence you got to where Sarat knows every time I run this go, this back shoulder go ball. He believes in his heart and far. He's going to catch it every single time. And that to me really means something is to have a player with confidence, aka momentum that we joke about with Greg all the time. Like, it's, it's so beautiful to see. And bro, did you see the clip?

You were at the game. But did you see the clip of the defensive end for Indiana, putting that move on Isaiah World? Yeah. Oh, my God. Inside move. Isaiah does a great job taking over. Then he goes back to the outside.

And when Isaiah World turns his shoulders, spin back in. And it's like Kevin Hart's comedy special when he talks about shack falling on the ground during basketball games. It is literally, he's like, oh, no. And literally falls, hits his back and lays on his back for a second. And even the way he gets up, I'm like, is he hurt? Yes. Like, it is. it was like it's a great athletic play by that kid but you can tell like he knows what he's doing

from a rush standpoint like you can see he's like his shoulders are turned out this is when I make the counter the second counter move back to the inside and I'm watching it like my heart obviously goes out to Isaiah like he's you know he's a homie but that's one of those plays you look at and you're like he just got you buddy and that is a that's just it's it was surgical bro what that do was able to do. It was truly surgical where I'm like, yeah, I don't see a flaw anywhere. And it's crazy to see. Miami's going to have to play a clean game too. I feel like the whole like the bad boy mantra everything out. They had some bad penalties and they got same they got Miami. Oh yeah.

He got saved with one where they end up pushing Chambliss out of bounds. Should have been a roughing. But yeah, that kid ended up smoking his head on the bench because they had the little the shade covers. I saw it in real time. Like, God damn, that kid got fucked up for a second. Yeah. I was hoping Trinidad

would pull it out of his ass at the end, man. They came close. I mean, that was a pass interference at the end of the game that you went on the helmet. Clearly a pass interference. Like, I was sitting there too

like this would be so great to have this just be on the old Miss band wagon because I really was. But ma'am. Yeah. Everything was going exactly how I needed to go for Ole Miss to take care of that game.

Four lead changes in the fourth quarter. Crazy. Like, dude, it was nuts, man. And, like, as much as I'm like, dude, how are they allowing Ole Miss to just be in the position to throw a hell merry like this? I would have loved to have seen another play. Yeah.

Because it's, what, a 15-yard penalty? Would have loved to have seen another play. Just nuts. And then two days later, Trenton and Jamblis's appeal to behalf of six years gets denied. The day after. The day after. Come on, man.

Come on, man. For him, me see, I'm coming back, all this you're like how awesome is that and then he gets cut and you're like hey man sorry about that you're not going next championship and also you're done playing college football it's like what the fuck yeah see ya bud that sucks man that sucks

I mean I have this tear talk loaded up for you guys should we get some tear talks I have a question before we go into the tier talk tier talk for Mitch Carsley hashtag tear talk have you guys seen this stuff surrounding the 49ers in their practice facility yes bro it was in the group chat last night I sent it in it is something

to seriously think about. Again, I'm not like an electrove whatever physicists. All good. We know we aren't either. Right. But like you know my background. It is something. It is like the studies and shit that's been on it's like, yeah, if you actually think about it where Niners are known as being the most injured team. It's all of these soft tissue tendon, uh, like injuries. Like if this is a real like thing, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah. I mean, it is real. I like, I'm saying. Like to me, to me when I see that, I'm like, man, that fucking sucks. And I hope they have like some progressive thinking healthcare physicians on that team to where they make a big deal out of it to ownership. Yeah.

Because when I, when I look at it, like with the EMFs and the 5G, all that stuff, like, I'm a firm believer. Like, you got to get as much of that off of you as possible. I think it really does mess up all sorts of things. That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't know exactly what it does to you or what exactly happens. But like, that's why I'm saying if it is a real thing. like the science, which it seems like it does back it up.

It's like you guys need to figure it out. Right. We don't know enough about it, but we know it's 100% fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Like, if you're like, hey, Taylor, we'll break this down for us, we'd be like, really, we don't have a time. We'd be like, check out this Twitter thread. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But, dude, there is a real thing about, like, grounding and having, like, I don't know if it's like magnetic stuff in your body.

because I'm just going to sound fucking stupid now. It's all good. Hey, we just know it's a hundred percent fact. Yeah, we just know it's a fact. You're right. We're not going to break it down, but let me try to break it down. We shouldn't break it down. I saw a tweet of the old long snapper for the Niners, like from years ago.

He's like, like, Tabor or something else. He's like, look at the trees on the side of where the electro plan is and then look at the trees across the street. The trees where the electro plan is, no leaves, everything's dead. The trees right across the street full of leaves. It's like, yo, there's something happening right now. I'm not a scientist or whatever, but it's like, hey. With a picture example right in front of our eyes.

Yes. Right. Right. Right of our faces. You can literally see which tree is happier. It's like, hmm, that one. And it's like, if that was that fucked up and the thing right next to is what we're talking about. Yeah.

Fact. All I needed to see was the electrical engineer with the EMF reader. Yeah. With him sitting out there outside? Yes. 2.3 is like, hey, that's max on this reading that a human should be. around 2.3 of whatever the signal is, you don't want any more than that. And he's on the practice field and it's like 8.4, 8.7, 8. I'm like, okay, that's real. That's evidence. That that's

not safe. Regardless of injury. Because it has been the last three years, man. It's always been these crazy injuries. Who's the linebacker in the Super Bowl? Drey Greenlaw. Drey Greenlaw. Just, yeah, Achilles. Obviously, George yesterday, but Trent had this soft tish. Everybody's been hurt. CMC with his Achilles. Yes, bro. That is a good one, too.

That is a good one. Something to think about. All of the ACLs and stuff that's happened out there, like. Well, Brock Purdy, it was a, that was a contact injury, though. But either way. Either way. Could have been weaker. Yeah.

Yeah, that's a good. That's a good thing. It's not like it has to happen in San Diego. Francisco at a home game this is like these dudes are practicing on this field every day every day they're at this facility every day yeah man so like where do you if you're in san francisco which is like Silicon Valley tech you know the tech mecca of our our universe in the united states like where do you go if you're going to move if you're going to be very serious about this and you're looking at as ownership for san francisco where do you go i don't know i think

that's a good call getting a giant eras tag and and drape it over. Yeah, just put those tags, just literally all around the building all over the facility. Just move your practice facility. I mean, that's a billion dollar team. Like, just move it.

That's a hundred million dollar move, I think. They are a billion dollar team. Wait, that's, we're talking about 10% now. But I mean, you can. There's got, there's got to be some kind of, you got to come with a solution. Yeah, got to come with the solution. Can't just say these billionaires,

got to do this. You got to come with a solution. But like, I feel like, if you are ownership and you see this like, Oh shit. You're not going to like your team is seriously suffering because of said problem. But if you don't want to hurt your bottom line. Which they, which the teams and like owners and people don't necessarily.

They care about that more than I guess you could say the health. Right. They care about the bottom line more. So it's much easier to be like, find a new training staff. Like clearly these guys are getting hurt. Strength staff, training staff. You know, you just, you blame something that would be cheaper. Or find people that aren't on this podcast.

that are like this is 100% true people can be like that's 100% false we need huberman to break this down we need huberman to do we need that's what we need is hubby just get up uh brekha you need brek you need brek we also need that we need that red light his wife DME uh the other day asking about UFC stuff and I'm like hey where's that red light should I say anything about the red light band

I probably won't just for time purposes we could just do uh one tier talk this week this one we can read it out but I thought it'd be fun to pose the question to you guys guys, if you could only pick two teams to make the playoff next year, who would your two teams be? You want to read it. Okay, here we go. We got one from Jono Steele.

John O'Stele on X. Only two of the 12 teams that made it to the playoffs will make it again next year. Hashtag to your talk. We'll love to know what two teams he's thinking about. But if you only got to pick two teams this year's playoff, which is just easy cop out, Indiana, Miami. I don't know I mean yeah That's an easy cop out

No doubt What about GMU Seems like they have the easiest Path every year They have a guaranteed spot in there They lost it They lost it like They lost all of their stats

They always do Do they always do GMU always And they lost their entire roster this year They're gonna be good again I honestly That's a clean take I'll say

Miami And Texas Tech I like Texas Tech I'm not going Miami with you I mean, do they have a quarterback yet? That's what I'm saying.

You got Texas Tech. They're number one in the portal right now. Like Miami's going to be really good in the portal. Miami is by far the best team in the ACC. Like it's not even close. And Texas Tech is kind of operating that same capacity. Because you look at these other teams, the conferences that they're in,

the SEC and the Big Ten, you kind of see the parody that will be there next year in the college football season. I feel like Texas Tech's just going to reload. Miami's going to reload. They're by far and above the best team. right now in their respective conferences. Texas Tech does that they have the number three

transfer portal class. As of right now, Sorosby just transferred them there. Soresby's a dog. And yeah, I agree with you in that the Big 12 and the ACC are the lesser of the two, the lesser than SEC Big Ten.

So yeah, I like that take. Because you say Miami, I'm thinking, yeah, but they haven't been back in forever, blah, blah, but it's like, it is a 12 team playoff. And I think they clearly realized that like, we made it harder on ourselves than we have to be

by losing the SMU and Louisville. Like next year they're going to go in My biggest question mark for Miami is who's your quarterback next year They're losing Like a lot of people. And I haven't seen a whole lot I like I hope a Miami fans watching this right now Because I'm not familiar with what their transfer portal looks like right now

So if somebody in the comments can let me know That'd be awesome Because it seems like those are the two clearest pass-in Also do we keep forgetting in the ACC Who's run that for 12 years And that's Clemson They're losing They don't have a quarterback.

Yeah, but I think it's so easy for us to like, oh, Clemson had a bad year when they had had expectations to like win the ACC probably be in the position Miami's in right now to be like, okay, they're done. And it's like, dabbo regardless of what, you know, JP's bias has flood onto us, he's a good coach. And so there is that like there's Miami and then also Florida State and there's also Clemson. So you don't know. Yeah, yeah. But I think Texas Tech for sure. I love the idea of Texas Tech Sorespeed

Let's hit another one You want to hit another one? Just hit another one I got to pee real bad But yeah Do do Do you Okay so Dr. Boozler

Is Indiana The Best Story In all of sports If they win I'm thinking so Hashtack Teer Talk I feel like we broke that down I would be fully on board With Dr. Boozler

Yeah I think a documentary Comes out immediately Followed by a major motion picture Dr. Steve here Who is Matt Ryan going to select as the next head coach for the Atlanta Falcons

hashtag to your talk. This is RSD 4444 on X. Not a real doctor. Not a real doctor. Not a real doctor. More of a dentist. Yeah. I don't know.

I'm not, I don't keep up in this. I'm not savvy in the NFL head coach market. I know that Harbaugh is in there and if LaFleur goes in, apparently he's number one now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have a full pulse on the coaching carous. Because I know Matt Nagy's getting a lot of

looks Kevin's, Kevin's Tafansky, John Harbaugh. Yes, DeFansky would be a good one. Arthur Smith is in that. Robert Sala, everyone seems like he's going to get another shot at it. Kubiak. Like, there's a lot of great names out there. Go get Kubiak. Go get Kubiak.

Well, are you, if you're Kubiak and you're an offensive-minded coach, do you want to go take the Atlanta Falcons job? Fair, yeah. I mean, you can't put together two good knees between your two quarterbacks. Yeah, that's very fair. No disrespect to the boys. Like, there's just been a lot of injuries. There's been rumors.

I don't know if you all heard anything about Kirby Smart wanting to maybe flirt with the NFL. Yeah, I see. I saw Ryan Day, Kirby Smart, and also Sarkesian are all like very interested in the NFL because there's, I'm big on the Twitter spaces, my Michigan Twitter spaces right now. And the lower behind it is like something's going on behind closed doors at Ohio State. And someone tweeted that and then pulled a like from a couple of Ohio State players liking that tweet, which is adding to the. the allegedness of Ryan Day head of the NFL. I obviously want to beat Ohio State to ask every single year. I think it is a catastrophic

move for Ryan Day. I think he could be successful in the NFL, but I think, bro, like, you're going to be on a top five program every year. Like, you guys, you guys have money, you have the recruiting classes. Wide receivers think, wide receiver you. Like,

grass isn't always greener. I don't know what the pay scale is for coaches in the NFL. But I feel like you can make a shit ton more money as a coach in college. Because I feel like I think Kirby, Day and like, I think Sark, they may be close to like that tens of millions per year. They're both, I think they're both above 12. I could see all three above 12. I feel like that's way more money than you'd be making as an NFL coach.

I don't know. I don't know either. I really don't. I just feel like the ambition. I can see that from Coach Day. Like he's a younger guy in the game. Right. Like he isn't Ohio State his first like head coaching job?

Yeah, he was there. I think he... He was back in Hampshire for a minute. I don't know if he was ever... Yeah, but he came over in Urban Meyer. He was like head coach and waiting with Urban Meyer. Yeah. They had a classic...

Oh, honestly, it's been his big job. Right. Like, as far as his own journey and everything else, I could see him wanting to jump to the NFL and... But to go off of those three names, Kirby Smart, Ryan Day, and Sark, the three names that I've heard that you were just talking about, I think if anyone is going to try to take that step, Sark.

Totally. 100%. He's the guy. Kirby, like, bro, you're going to have... a statue. Ryan, you're going to have a statue. Like, you guys have got that. Sark is still in the, he always has great teams and he's always, I think he's a phenomenal head coach, but he hasn't won the national champions yet. There's box he hasn't checked that these two guys have. It's like, bro, don't try to be a guy that does everything. I would, I would sit with them in a room,

be like, you don't need to do all this. Like, this is the perfect world for you're staying because you could be in the arguments with the Kurt Signettis and the Nick Savants. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's a tear talk right here. Andrew Douglas. at Dougie 2424, 2004. 2019 LSU versus 2025, Indiana, who are you taking and why? I will say, I think it's a little bizarre thinking that this Indiana football team

is the greatest football team of all time. Have you seen the win by point differential? Yeah. Indiana has more, he has a higher point differential win than the 2019 LSU. Indiana's average win is like 31 points, and I think LSU's was like 26.

Yeah, something like that. Like there are, that we now have enough of a sample, because it was also, hey, LSU beat five top 10 teams, blah, blah, blah, blah, to win that championship. And now Indiana has also done that. And in this world we live in,

anybody who wins the national championship will beat five top 10 teams, you know? And the 2019 LSU team, I think the only metric that really brought down their average on that was the Texas game, their season opener, where they won by like two points. Yeah. I mean, bro, we're talking Joe Burrow.

I know, I know. Justin Jefferson. This, this, this, this, this, this, question last week was not near as interesting to me as it is this week. And I'm sure, based on what I think had the national championship is going to go, it's going to get a lot more interesting

at the end of this week. The teams that... Or the end of next week. The teams that that LSU team played, like their game against Alabama, like, you look at that game. I think there's 20 NFL starters who played in that game. Like, playing in the SEC back then before the Big Ten

has taken over these last couple years, I think is... I think it's not it's not apples to apples dude i don't don't disagree with you but when you use the argument of this alabama team had this many uh drafted guys that's where i fall back on if i'm going to fight for indiana it's like well we have to see how many alabama guys that they just beat by their biggest loss since 2000 whatever how many of those guys get drafted you know because indiana's playing like per do they're playing maryland they're playing whoa you're we're all on the same we're on the same boat yeah but i wouldn't you

Indiana and Maryland. You guys speak for yourselves. I'm not in the same boat as you guys. I do think Big Ten, it's like hard stop. They're the best conference. Yeah, but I'm saying. If they win the next championship again. Three, the last three national championships have all been Big Ten

and they've all been by different teams. Yeah. I wonder what the stat on that is. And I know, like, the little biasedness. I'm just saying like that is clearly to me, like right now, big ten runs college football. To where I think so much so that next year we see this top 25 will start to shift that a little bit.

Because the reason when people are so heavy on the SEC is like look how many top 25 teams we have preseason. And it's like okay. But you know,

when it all kind of ends up, it's like these teams should have been a rate rated higher. I'm just saying Mitch trying to talk about the lack of opponent that Indian is play I think is,

you don't use Purdue and Maryland. Like in the quarterfinals last week, Indiana was the only squad that had beaten three teams currently left in the quarterfinal. between Ohio State which was the best team in the country beat them in the Big Ten championship

obviously Miami just beat them Oregon twice killed Oregon the second time I'm more so saying for the point differential part yeah I'm not like I'm just saying oh okay I see you're saying that's what I'm saying is like that that point differential could be so high because they're beating Purdue 56 to 3 type thing yeah I'm I'm just, I guess, the seat that I'm sitting in right now,

I'm not trying to already, like, crown them in such a way to where we're making all these hypothetical arguments to where I'm almost, like, trying to tear down or go against what Indiana is doing. You know what I mean? Because I'm enjoying watching their season. Like when the guy's like, who's winning, and I'm thinking in my head, like, it's 2019 LSU. Oh, that's crazy. You want to hate on this Indiana team. No, I don't think you're there. I think we need to see the final result for this Indiana team.

You can't ever you can't but guarantees Miami I said earlier early early 2000s Miami team I'm thinking to myself 97 Nebraska 94 97 Nebraska didn't win the national championship 94 95 the Nebraska team in the 90s I'm just saying the 97 Nebraska Okay but just to be clear who won the next championship Michigan won that national championship but in all the arguments when people argued the early 2000s

Miami team it's always the early 2000 Miami team in like 97 Nebraska As far as like ass beatings, margin 2019 LSU is another one they use an Alabama team and that 2011 Alabama or something like that yeah they use Alabama and those because they were nasty oh yeah I mean yeah yeah I think we need to see a rap on this and then there I'm there's going to be a world where you break it down and I love the fact it's so crazy how the media works because we walked into these playoffs being like well Indiana they haven't played a whole lot of people it's going to be the same thing one and done type of situation and now they mop Alabama they beat Ohio State

They mop Alabama and they beat, who's, who they just beat? Oregon. Oregon. And it's like, is this the greatest team of all time? Like after a month span, we're now like, is this the greatest team to ever walk the earth? So it's kind of nuts. Should we get into, should we get out of here? Yeah, let's get out of here.

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