Bussin' With The Boys - Oz Pearlman Leaves The Boys SPEECHLESS On The Bus
Episode Date: July 23, 2024Recorded: July 22nd 2024 | On this week's episode of Bussin' With The Boys, Will Compton and Taylor Lewan sit down with the incredible Oz Pearlman. Known for his mind-bending magic and mentalist feats..., Oz takes The Boys on a wild ride into the world of illusion, statistics, and the power of the mind/memory. Oz shares his personal journey from paying his way through College at Michigan to then earning a job on Wall Street and finally becoming one of the most sought-after mentalists in the world. He then treats the entire bus to a full on production of some of his most mind-blowing tricks. Card tricks, guessing pin codes and predicting this year's Super Bowl Champs.. Oz can truly do it all. We hope you enjoy this epic conversation with Oz Pearlman, exclusively on Bussin' With The Boys! TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 1:09 Taylor’s Bday 5:45 CFB25 16:35 Beer Olympics Is Out 32:42 House Of Dragon 38:31 JPs bachelor party 42:34 Reacting To ESPN’s Top 100 Athletes List 50:18 Interview Preview 53:22 Twisted Question OTW 1:06:41 Shoutout’s OTW 1:10:29 OZ PEARLMAN INTERVIEW STARTS 1:10:48 How To Pronounce His Name 1:11:32 Being On Wall Street 1:12:42 When Did He Know He Could Do Mentalism 1:15:42 Michigan To Engineering To Wall Street 1:17:00 Being On America’s Got Talent 1:21:38 What Is Wall Street Like? 1:26:52 Nervousness & And Upping The Ante 1:31:00 What Is The Pinnacle For Him? 1:32:40 Oz Teaches Us To Improve Our Memory 1:35:55 Let The Tricks Begin 1:39:59 Trick #2 1:46:31 Trick #3 1:53:20 Trick #4 1:56:53 Trick #5 2:03:18 MIND BLOWING Trick #6 2:12:45 His Stops This Year + Highlights From Last Year 2:17:10 Trick #7 2:22:48 Favorite Person He’s Performed ForFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Happy birthday, bro.
Thanks, dude.
Yes.
Happy birthday.
July 22nd.
You remembered.
1999.
That is correct.
1999.
Good year.
Strong year.
Strong year.
Strong year.
Very good year.
I'm happy.
What was your favorite part about being 32?
Man.
Just put them on the spot.
Favorite part about being 32.
You had a lot happen.
I don't know.
A lot of good stuff.
Last year was a great year.
Yeah.
It's a good year.
New gambling show.
Prosperous year.
Yeah.
Boys grew.
We have new guys coming in now.
A lot of gambling.
Really enjoyed game.
Probably gambling.
It's probably gambling.
Some awesome UFC events we've got to witness.
Just life.
I think at 32 was awesome.
And I can't wait to see where 33 goes.
It was a good time.
I like 33.
It's got a nice little ring to it.
And next year, 34.
3 plus 4 is?
37.
Nope.
3 plus 4 is.
7.
Which is my favorite number.
Yes.
So I'm getting closer to that.
It's just an exciting time.
It's an exciting time.
It's a fun.
It's a fun free for all age.
I can do what I want.
I got you a birthday gift,
but I forgot it at home.
Okay.
That was tough.
I did send you the,
I sang you a little happy birthday.
However,
I'll get you that,
I'll get you that gift.
Maybe I'll come by the house later today.
Or maybe tomorrow.
Do you want to give me a hint what it is?
You said it's a bad gift.
It's not a very,
it's not an impressive gift whatsoever.
That's okay.
It doesn't have to have like monetary value
to not be an impressive gift.
The fact of you thought of something special.
Okay, good.
thought that counts is all that matters.
Good.
You know?
I do have another gift in mind now because I feel like you were hinting to me a little bit
ago.
See, I knew you thought I was hinting.
You're into me.
What's that?
You were hinting to me.
No, I wasn't hint to you.
Throwing a hint at me.
I do appreciate that.
Do you want me to unpack what the hint was?
Sure.
What you think the hint was?
Yeah.
We were having a conversation because we're having an issue with the ads popping up for
this beautiful podcast.
And we're talking about CFB 25.
I'm literally saying out loud.
How great of a game it's been?
This intro is really taken away for me enjoying some CFB,
against you and maybe some of the boys after we're done.
And then I said, it's all I thought about all weekend.
It's really one of those games.
I'm so happy.
I'm happy.
It's not at my house because my family would be ignored.
Every single chance I got, I would go play that game.
And so the fact that it's in a place where I can't, like, just go get it and go play it.
Can't access it?
I can't access it.
I like that.
However, I think we figured out that you just have an Xbox one.
You don't have an Xbox 1 X or S series.
Yeah, which is what you need to have CFB.
Yeah.
But if, hey, I hear you.
I don't need to be here, dude.
I hear you.
I know, I hear you hearing me, but I want you to hear me that you're hearing the wrong thing.
Understood.
No.
I don't think you're understanding.
No, this is great to have for your wife and kids watching this.
I understand.
All right.
I'm picking it out.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
I got you.
I see what you did there.
I did.
Thanks, brother.
Thanks.
But yeah, dude, that game is, uh, it's conquered my mind without having been in my house.
Dude, it is incredible.
It is awesome.
And I was the one, and I think we can look back at the last.
few episodes before it came out, very pessimistic about the gameplay and it was going to be more
like Madden. I was on the end of show me, don't tell me. Yeah. Type of mentality. And they've
showed. I love it. I've watched a lot of clips on different things. And people, I just,
there's people, there's real gamers out there because I am not a real gamer. They're a real,
shout up, Kurt, Bankert. Okay. That's how you say it, right? Yeah. Who's that?
Bancourt.
He's a gamer.
He was a cute quarterback for the Packers.
Okay.
He streams a lot.
He's big in the streaming community.
And he is an absolute savage, apparently, on all football games.
He kind of teaches football through the lens of video games.
I think I probably stumbled across a couple of those episodes.
Because he's one of the leading forces of playing this game online.
It is, but he's probably one of the people that bitched about some of the glitches and stuff like that.
But I think the game is just awesome.
It's just an awesome game.
You're kind of the king of the shop right now.
I guess I am.
I don't know how.
I have no fucking clue how I am the king of this shop.
I am so bad at these types of video games yet.
I think you and Mitch are going to have to figure it out.
I did see a clip because you played me Texas A&M and it obviously didn't go your way.
I saw a clip being like Texas A&M is one of the worst teams to play with.
People have their opinions on shit.
Yeah.
Is that still your team?
No, it's Alabama.
Of course it's Alabama.
That's crazy, right?
Alabama, I don't even think the top five team.
Overall wise.
They might be five.
They're top ten.
I'll tell you what I was planning over the weekend and Shirm had it highlighted up there.
This number two, this linebacker for Georgia, is an absolute menace.
What's his real name?
Can I get his real name?
I don't know, but he looks.
Okay.
He's bringing it up.
He looks.
I mean, this kid.
Smale?
Small, Mondin Jr.
That'll be.
Shamel.
Shamel.
Shamel.
S-M-A-E-L.
S-M-A-L.
Smell Mondin Jr.
And I think Smale would appreciate me saying.
Hey, this young man is a thoroughbred in the game.
He's got to be, he's got to be a first round.
He's got to be a day one type of cat in next year's draft.
I mean, first off, this is a zesty-ass photo of this boy right here.
Dude.
That being said, he looks incredible.
This young man was just...
You see the hips popped out a little bit, that wrist movement.
That's strong.
He was running the double mug package.
Smile Monday.
Oh, that's fun.
He was running this double.
He was running the double mug package
to where he's up in the A gaps
and he's running cover zero every play.
And he does a great job as a linebacker.
Like knowing the slides coming to you,
he's not going to get the sack.
He bails right away.
Guess right?
I have no clue.
But he knew every time what receiver I wanted to throw to
in this cover zero.
And he would run and pick this shit off and take it to the house.
Was it a 3-3-cover-zero?
3-3-cover-0.
So I saw some half.
on the on the game like these are the best
double mug
it's a cross the board
it was Ohio State versus Georgia
and Georgia the number two kid
he was usually basically
using 3 3 3 double mug
and he was taking the defensive ends
and he'd take one to the strong side
and move it into the B gap
and he would have double mug
with the nose as well
yeah he was doing something
it was it was haunting me I wanted to put my controller
through the uh through the TV
so I'm thinking how are you running the same
double mug zero
yeah let's every fucking play
and the smale guy
I don't know him personally.
This is the first time I'm really seeing him.
But when you're a child and you think I'm going to start playing football
and you start seeing football players and you think someday I'm going to look like that,
smell is that?
Yeah.
He might be.
Hey, sure, him while we're talking about him too, like see where he's ranked as far as like
linebackers in the draft next year.
And where's he's from?
Dallas, Georgia.
There's a Dallas, Georgia.
Yeah.
Learn something new every day, boys.
But something new every single day.
But yeah, I've been rocking with Bama.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dude, it's hard to play with like a, you know, when you're playing online, they separate it tier one, tier two, tier three teams.
And there's probably only eight to ten tier one teams.
But dude, if you play with anybody in their tier two and you're playing somebody in that tier one level, it is hard to kind of move.
You have to be legit be skilled.
Yeah.
You'd be very skilled at the game to be able to handle that kind of process.
There was a cat.
I wish I could give them a quality shout out.
I didn't have my headset on, but he was kind of talking about.
to me through the screen and he's like he's like he said my username and he was like
is this will compton from busts with the boys and then he was like man you trash like you are
fucking trash you need to go back on this podcast and talk about this asshole but then at the very
end he was like oh the smelly rabbit the smelly rabbit can you can't catch the smelly rabbit he would
like intercept the ball and just start playing like all these little he would start changing his
voice and just mock me the entire time he said man I hope this is will content busting with the
boys he's like oh the smelly rabbit you can't get the rabbit you can't get the rabbit you can't
He's watching this right now.
So happy.
You've justified every single bit he's ever done in his head just by that.
And I was.
I was like clenching my fist just mad like this motherfucker.
He'd catch the ball right when he'd catch it.
Like, oh, I wouldn't even trying to go there.
Oh, do Robbie?
You try to catch a rabbi?
How many hours did you play this weekend?
Maybe 30 minutes.
Topps.
Come on.
Hey, hey, hey.
I'm picking up for it now.
30 minutes.
You played only 30 minutes.
Your family, ma'am.
I sent Garrett a screenshot because I saw he was playing.
I'll show you what I'm ranked.
the world right now.
There's world rankings.
Mind you, like at any given time online,
there's over 600, 700,000 people online.
It's not bad.
It's not a bad number at all.
Your top 50,000.
28,000.
And one.
28,001.
That's impressive.
You're 1%.
I'm getting, yeah, I'm getting better.
But here's what happens, too, in the online world.
You might score a touch on the open drive.
but they'll quit they'll quit right away they'll leave the game that's or you or you score and then
they throw a pick on their first drive or throw a pick in the first quarter whatever they quit so guys
will quit fairly quickly that's not the kind of generation we want no not at all so a lot of the stuff's
kind of padded you they're not like seeing the game through whatsoever are you one of those guys
no the only time i'll quit is like if they're up on me like 21 in the fourth quarter so that way
it's like i know i'm not going to come back and win this game so let's let me do us both a favor get out of
it and then I can get into another game.
Matter of fact, the guy who was telling me the Smelly Rabbit, he wanted me to quit.
He was like, bro, can you just quit, man, so we can both move on?
And I fucking played every snap.
Dude, Smale Bonden.
He's a senior.
He's at 89 on CFB 25.
He's a stud.
How is he at 89 when the highest ranked player isn't, no, 96?
Wait.
Yeah, because that Will Johnson kid from Michigan, he's the highest rated.
So I guess that all pans out.
That all makes sense.
Can I tell you something about CFB and I think where your faults are?
you're too smart you're too much of a football mind you understand the game of football too
much so when it becomes into a virtual reality world you are using motions doing hot routes and
not taking into account that this is a video game and you just kind of just got to press
button sometimes you're looking at coverages you're looking at you I'm also not a quarterback
I would also say I'm just not a good quarterback right now you're a man who's warden the green
dot before and so you have a lot on your plate and you understand tendencies you understand trips
you know two by two all of stuff
back offset where's the why at all of those things
motioning to figure out if it's in zone
or if it's man there's been so many times
but I'll just pick a defense because I don't really know defenses like that
I was always taught just to watch the safeties
and understand tendencies but never like
this is cover one two three four and so on and so forth
you all run Tampa two which is a very basic defense
and you'll be like oh you're in Tampa there you were in whatever here
oh you brought the nickel off the edge it's just like
you just see things that I think you start
playing a chess game versus someone who's playing checkers and that becomes your downfall.
I'm just not very good going through progressions. I get scared.
See ghosts. Yeah, right, right when my first one gets taken away, it happened with Mitch
last week. I was playing him. I was like, I get, I'll even know that somebody's standing there
and I'll still throw and think like, what if? And they'll still have picked the ball.
Literally Mitch stood, stood there in the, in the hook curl area. And I throw it right to him.
And I was like, that is the example. I watched you not.
even move.
You watch the defender not do anything.
You're like,
because in my head,
I'm bad at pre-snap,
this is where I'm going with the ball.
Yeah,
you don't want to be that guy.
You want to be a guy
that has a game come to you.
You want to be like water.
Yeah.
You want to flow with it.
You don't want to just be like,
this is where I'm going.
Yeah.
I'll also take you this too.
I have yet to beat Michigan in the game.
Oh,
even when you're playing?
Even when I'm playing online.
What's the deal with that?
I don't know.
It's those two defensive line.
Dude, honestly,
they do have a great deal line,
but what's his name,
Mason Graham.
Yeah.
He is such a stud on that game.
Yeah.
And I don't know how to stop him.
Yeah, he's really good.
For 79 kids really good.
Both those guys might be first round draft picks this year, like both top 20 picks.
Mason might even be a top 15 top 10 picks.
And no one Mason can get pressure up the middle.
Like you're not able to step up or do anything.
And he just tosses motherfuckers out of the way.
Yeah, dude.
Mason's got that question mark on ethnicity too.
You don't, is that, is he light skin or is that a white kid?
Oh, he's white.
You think so?
Oh, he's full on Caucasian.
I don't think so, man.
I think there might be a dash
or something going on in there.
That's a young man who drinks an ad lit all weekend.
Do you think so?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's a better picture.
I don't know, dude.
Well, just because he's got a little taper.
He's just trying to be cool with the boys.
You think so?
Yeah, I know so.
Can we look them up?
Can we look them up?
Can we look up as Wikipedia?
I want to see if this kid's full flat.
I don't know how many pictures you need to see.
I don't know.
I see tendencies to wear.
Well, he's white.
Yeah.
that's his
yeah
that's as wide as it gets
man even his dad's like
the like literally in the dictionary
you look up Caucasian mail that's it
yeah
his mom's got some Italian in her
Mr. Graham what do you do?
Sell insurance
No question about it
this guy
yep salesman
well
overall fun game
good to see white guys
making a comeback though
on the defensive side of the ball
am I right?
Yeah there's a bit
I saw on Instagram the other day
of some guy like he was doing jokes
about like cornerbacks
white cornerbacks
now in it. And he's like a black dude, but he's like
Joe pretending to be a white guy. And now
all the little kids want all the white little kids want to be
corners and stuff like that. We're making a comeback. The boys are making a comeback
is all I'm trying to say. What else is making a comeback?
Boys, beer games championship with the world. Let's give a round of
applause for that. We finally made it. We finally made it.
The ebbs and flows. Portnoy
yelling at you. You yelling at Portnoy. They were in Vegas.
We're now out of Vegas. We're back in the backyard in Nashville.
The whole world's coming to an end. Then all of a sudden,
you date two guys with a dream.
and a drive and it happens we have three episodes coming out we'll already talked about that
this was the most fun beer games we've had in the past three four years it's been going on for
four years it's been filmed for three years and two years is a real production now this one has
obviously become more but this was so much fun everybody was about the cause so many different
teams we checked a lot of diversity boxes which you really need out bust some the boys you look in the
back of our bus we got a lot of white cats back there it's nice to see a little bit of diversity
A lot of gameplay back and forth
We had female representation
It was a great
A great time
Some upsets in there that I think everybody will enjoy watching
Yeah
It kept puking
Yeah
Very exciting
Obviously you saw us in socials
The PMT guy surprised us
We told them you're out
Wasn't a disrespectful thing
It was truly us being like
At the end of the day
We just want people
Who want to be there
We want people to take part in something
That's special
And believe it's special
And want to make it special
They show up in there's dope
like uh looked like a one of those party buses you see down on broadway they pull up on one of those
they come out the vibes were high the entire day will have himself an extremely good showing on
pm t that evening uh big cat i bruised big cat big cat's cheeks yeah don't in that pool there was
a strong thrust in there a strong thrust what was making me hurt for what were you trying to do
two weeks after what's that what was happening were you trying to throw them in the pool or i think
that was either jp or jack was like hey it's time for somebody to
be going to pool.
He was going to like dominate it.
I was like there's only one man.
I hurt my back doing that by the way.
Yeah.
My back.
My back slap so hard.
Yeah.
But I wanted him to know.
I think he knew.
He found out if he didn't.
He found out if he did it.
It was just a good time, man.
And there's a,
I love that still photo of like there's like eight arms wrapped around my head.
But I still have big cat and you're in there too.
It's just like a, it just looks like a lemon party in there, man.
I grab Hank and give him the dishwasher where you have the,
I didn't know that happened until I saw the clip.
That was the wildest shit I've ever seen.
And Hank just not fighting at all.
You see his body just go limp.
This poor head has not seen sunlight in months.
Look at this.
He's not even doing anything.
He's just taking it.
Because he was trying to stay out of it.
He was trying to stay out of it.
He's just.
It was a good time.
You guys will enjoy this content.
It was fun.
just sitting there thinking, yep, that was me last year.
I'm so glad that the torch has been passed to somebody else.
Chris Long's in a different atmosphere.
He's not even available mentally.
Just a really fucking good time.
Look at you.
I know.
Hairline looks tough there.
That's all right.
That's an angle.
Hey,
you're a handsome guy.
You're a handsome guy.
And the good thing, too, no disrespect to Hank.
This is not a disrespectful thing to Hank.
But if you put you and Hank next to each other,
you're looking a whole lot better.
So that's a dub.
I guess, but he shaved his head.
He shaved his head.
Like he had to shave his head.
Because he was going bald.
You're not going bald.
He's got a little thin enough time.
No, I don't think Hanks going bald.
He lost a bet.
Oh, the Celtics one.
Oh.
No disrespect to Heng.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Heng.
That's not disrespectful.
And the fact that I said, no disrespect,
he can't take disrespect from that.
That's just how it works.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But a great time.
Are you going to watch?
You're going to watch all three episodes?
We were just talking before.
I joked about not watching it.
But I'm for sure going to watch it.
It was interesting because security apparently
left at like four or five o'clock.
And so towards the other night
There were people in my in my
backyard that I didn't even know
I'm like who you guys with
They're like
And at that time
Drunk Taylor was like I don't care anymore
Dude do whatever you want
It was a rare form
It was rare form
I'm hoping everybody else was in rare form
When I see episode three
If I remember correctly
Sherm said I go up to Stephen
And give him a genuine say like
Hey like we gotta get this going
Like when are we gonna play the championship
And we were just
We just played the first round
of the championship in that. Sorry we had to cut that out.
Yeah, that's tough we had to cut that out. But
you will see Will Compton
in a, he's just bought in to being drunk.
Yeah, yeah. You're bought in. Yeah.
There's no, and the most beautiful thing about you in the situation is you're not
trying to hide, you know when people get drunk and they're trying to like pretend
they're not drunk, which makes them look more drunk, you were just full on drunk.
Full I'm drunk. The photo of you laying on the ground with the air,
that was something else.
The Chandler at the end of the night laying down sleeping on the,
in the driveway.
Yeah, Jack.
One of the most funny.
Leaving upstairs.
We're sleeping upstairs in the recovery room.
One of the most iconic.
One of the most iconic videos.
That was the best clip we had all day.
Right.
And we had to see Mike two days later.
Me and Mike actually resolved our beef over the weekend.
What happened?
Oh, you're going to grammar please me.
Yeah, yeah, dude.
I'm 33 now.
Yeah.
Mike, Mike and me buried the hatchet.
He actually buried the hatch with me.
But him and Tony Vitello,
who's the Vals baseball coach, both went to Missouri at the same time.
and one of my friends is good friends with Tony
and they wanted to connect them.
So I sent the numbers in exchange
and he was like July 17th or 19th, whatever it was.
It was the day that Jack and Mike buried the hatchet.
He's like we can continue being friends again.
So it looks like we're back on the...
This is a good vibes podcast, man.
I'm happy for you.
I'm very happy for you.
Yeah, dude.
It was such a fun time.
It was and we took time to get the cold tub in between events.
Yeah, which is a small.
move in the beginning in the beginning yeah it was just fun man jp you got in didn't you yeah you've got
the cold tub everyone just bought into biohacking yeah well and just getting hammered just getting blacked out
uh as of right now i'm still retired you're retiring you're not drinking anymore uh i i don't like
the phrase not drink anymore but i'm retired from beer games i think really i think i think but
it's also july 22nd so it could change i think as we get close again next i think the competitive
juices will come out.
Yeah, maybe, maybe.
I just think, man, you know, I've been at the top of the mountain in this chugging thing
for a while now, and it feels good.
And so why not go out on top and just, you never know if somebody would ever beat me
for real.
Because I know, and I, I don't know why it's Asian to me, but there's an Asian cat out there
somewhere that at any point could take me down.
Yeah.
I don't want to see that day.
It's so wrapped around my identity.
Yeah.
Yeah, Asian.
Except for whatever reason, he feels like.
that's what it is. Yeah, there's an Asian. I remember like seeing videos as a kid of like,
just Asian guys slamming water. And they would take like big like waters and they just
put the whole thing in there. I thought that would beat me. So for whatever reason, the ethnicity
that would beat me out there. Yeah. Okay. So you're retired. I'm retired. As of right now.
Moment of silence. Tara Luan, greatest sugar of all time. Thank you. Oh yeah. If you retire,
I'm going to have to find a new teammate.
me we host i'm trying to compete
james nil
yeah jesus nio
you're trying to get back out there
all right i'm back
i stand i have a strong
opinion on let there has to be
less beer i know and i
have a strong opinion that you're wrong
right but i'm saying
we don't we should not have to do a pitcher
of beer for flip cup
why
because the game when you actually play the game
for fun hanging out with friends
you never put that much beer in flip cup
it's not a chugging it's not a chugging game
here's the way I look at it and people anybody in the comments
Taylor we drank 16 and a half beers within an hour
here's the way I look at it and anybody in the comments
if you feel differently and feel more than welcome
boys in the back feel differently if you feel differently
if you feel differently say anything
I believe the quantity of beer consumed
is an equalizer throughout the day
so when you do the chug everyone's in the same playing field
based on Flipcup, you could be out in the first round and save yourself for Beer Pong
and then Beer Ball at the end before the championship rounds.
The people that make it very far in Flip Cup, they're awarded points.
However, they're more drunk equalizing the playing field as the day goes.
So if you do really good in the beginning, and now there's a level of strategy.
Do you want to do that well in Flip Cup?
Do you feel really good about your beer pong abilities and your beer ball abilities?
If you do, if you do, then you, you,
just kind of, hey, let's maybe throw this one.
We'll stay more sober and be ready to go in these situations when these people are more drunk.
So I think there's a good equalizer situation when it comes to that amount of consumption that early.
But I'm thinking if we consume 16 and a half beers in one hour, we could figure out a way to where that number is maybe sitting from 10 to 12.
Like we're still getting drunk.
And no spoilers, but did that stop the boys?
No.
Did that equalize out?
But we were great.
We were in flow state the entire day.
There was a different aura.
But that's the thing, though.
I can't, like, we get into maybe the back half episode two, episode three.
Like, I'm going to have to watch that like I'm watching a movie for the first time.
And I would just, in the future, I would like to, like, be able to recall these moments.
Yeah, but that's the point.
The point is middle-aged men drinking a lot, a lot of beer and doing dumb shit.
It's probably easy to say when you're six, seven, 260 pound, bro.
Yeah.
Because it doesn't seem like you were blacked out.
You weren't that.
you chose to put yourself in that position.
They asked me...
What do you mean?
I was being blacked out?
That's you on PMT.
Oh, okay.
When the thing was over,
Bate Keg goes,
hey, Will's coming on.
Do you want to come on?
And he was,
it was like a courtesy,
hey, do you want to come on?
But I was like,
I'm good.
Because I knew in my head,
if I go on PMT,
there's no way that ends well for me.
Because even as drunk as I was
still being able to recall the whole night,
I could,
I saw the clip that JP sent.
My voice doesn't sound sober.
I know I probably did some,
some of this type shit
during the,
the day that I'm not going to be proud of.
But that's drunk Taylor's drunk Will.
That's not who we are.
No, no, I know that.
So when those skis.
But I'm saying to have more, to have more fun that I remember.
You had fun.
No, I know.
But I want to remember it.
Like, I want to be drunk, but I don't want to be blacked out to where I'm like,
what happened?
I didn't know.
No spoilers.
We were supposed to have a sleepover too and you didn't sleep over.
Yeah.
Like, I would love to be the cat at the end of night,
ready to play some video games, order some late night food.
Not passed out.
we gotta have one of those guys
buddy that was just you this time
but we could yeah because take some
take some uh some charcoal
pills
what are your guys just thoughts you think it should be a pitcher of beer
for every absolutely every game that we play
Mitch stop shaking you like that dude no
so I attended a beer Olympics over
4th of July and they've been doing it for like
seven years and they had a really
good format for it but there was
four drinking events and two non-drinking
events and I think that could be a way
where you can really space it out but the
best thing they do is their finale and it's called the slow bike race and it's a course that they
track out on this driveway and it's whoever can ride their bike the slowest time through the course
and like if you take a step off you get deducted you actually add time and it's the last event so
by the end of the day the people who compete for your team are just obliterated but it's so funny
watching people try and ride a bike as slow as possible and like crashing and they also just space
it out where you drink a lot, but you have time in between where you sober up maybe a little
bit. So maybe next year we add in a couple of non-drinking events to where it spaces out.
And then make sure that the last event is not a drinking event because it was so painful
watching that finale. I cannot imagine. Y'all, you're going to have fun watching the end. I know that.
But the championship round shouldn't be wrapping up around like what probably seven o'clock
It was eight o'clock it finished at nine so finish at nine ten hours yes
16 and a half in the first hour i don't think regardless if you're drinking pictures or not if you're
drinking from nine to nine it's unavoidable yours you're going to be plastered you're going to be
done no matter how much beer you're drinking if you're drinking for 12 hours you're going to be drunk
i have a sneaky suspicion there was p ed's going on during that event as well i'm sure there were
What do you mean by that?
I mean, you guys, you guys were biohacking.
No, no, no, no.
PEDs performance enhancing drugs.
Yeah, I know, but are you saying?
Cocaine.
Oh.
You think people were hit some cocaine?
It just seemed like when I was kind of in a day state halfway through the day,
it felt like there were some people staying a little more straight than me.
And I was like, what are you on?
I was wondering how you had so much energy at 11 at night.
It was a wild deal.
People, it seemed like people were taking advantage of the open.
space out there.
Yeah.
I mean,
Waka Flaka.
Just an all-time.
Like,
for the boys.
Yeah.
Was about it from the get-go.
All he wanted was burgers and glissies there.
Yeah.
All he wanted was all he cared for, man.
It was a fun time.
I really hope you guys enjoy it.
It was a blast to do.
Through all the hardships and everything,
it was so much fun.
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Are you watching House of the Dragon?
No, Tailin is.
I got to get on.
Taylor is watching?
Taylorin's watching.
I got to get, we got to connect.
Hey, sure.
you're watching.
I was told,
I was told the dragon scenes
of them fighting
is like the most
insane shit
you've ever seen your life.
So great.
See,
smoke is out?
It's been incredible.
There's way more dragons
than I could have ever imagined.
And I feel like such a nerd saying that,
but it really is glorious.
Hey,
and if you're somebody who enjoys
binging shows,
you do not need to watch
Game of Thrones to watch House of Dragon.
Is this base,
what,
several hundred years before Game of Thrones?
Yeah,
almost 100,
exactly.
I would almost say...
Almost 100 years before Game of Thrones.
Yes.
Okay, okay.
So not several hundred.
Yes.
And if you haven't watched Game of Thrones,
I wish that I had never seen Game of Thrones before and started with House of Dragon.
God.
Because it's so good by itself.
I think Game of Thrones is better.
But it introduces so many ideas with like the Targaryan family.
And you have a bunch of lore and backstory that isn't in Game of Thrones.
I don't know.
It's just, it's doing the books.
justice is what I've heard
I've never read the books
I'll have to take a deep dive because I forget who
the Mad King actually is like in the timeline
but I hope we get to the Mad King era
I don't know if it's going to be a house of dragon
or in a different side show
but the Mad King the Targaryen
before Game of Thrones that Game of Thrones talks
about recalls to a lot during Game of Thrones
yes so he is like
three kings away from
where we are right now so they were
three kings forward
yes like the Mad King
is the great great grandson.
Okay.
That's good to know.
And you know, I was telling you this before we jumped on here,
the little hooded chick.
What's her name in Thrones?
Her last name's Rivers, because she's a bastard.
But I don't remember her first name.
You don't remember her character's name in Game of Thrones?
Oh, Melisandra.
Yeah, Melisandra.
Yes.
That's who that little hooded girl is, I'm telling you.
So Will thinks that the witch of Heron Hall is Melisandra in Game of Throne.
Thrones, which is a huge leap.
No,
when you,
that's a hundred years...
When you say the witch
and Helen Hall,
are you saying the chick
with the black hair?
Yeah.
No, no, not her.
She's wearing the red hood.
She's like,
she's had a couple
cameos,
but she's not like a
prominent character right now.
She just made a couple scenes.
And she's wearing that little...
She's wearing her little red hood
and the gown and everything else.
She's...
I'll have to show you after this,
but I'm telling you,
I bet you that that's Melisandro.
Because Melisandro in Game of Thrones,
she's like,
hundreds of years old and the necklace
keeps her young. Yes. And I'm just
saying that I think that that is her.
Okay, I'm way more about it. I'm way more
about it. I thought you're saying. No, I'm not saying
that. No, no, no, no. I was like, oh yeah, Will, that's a good idea.
No. No. There's this, there's this young chick who's got the red hood on
and everything else, like the little Jedi hood. And I bet you that that is
Melisandro. Okay. You're telling me I don't have to watch Game of Thrones before House of
Jared? No. No.
Because this time is way before a Game of Thrones.
I might have to buy in. It's just the shows for me, man.
I found myself, because we had this conversation before about movies or shows and you're more of a show guy, more of a movie guy.
Shows, when they snipe me up, I have such a hard time getting out of that chokehold.
Yeah, it's the best part.
I'm up so late. I think about it so much. And then all of a sudden, it's, I just don't get sleep.
And that, those characteristics right there is why you have to watch Huston the Dragon.
Because you talk about, you talk about rabbit holes, you can go down.
I know, and I have enjoyed our conversations about suits we've been having.
Yeah. And just how I'm still not done with that, it's been like two months.
You can't have Taylor's watching.
You just catch out and watch over there.
I know, I need to.
Because it's two seasons, right?
It's all the second season right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And is there like a timeline on this, are they saying?
16 episodes of consumer.
But are they an hour?
Yeah, but.
16 hours of wash time, boys.
and with my brain, the way my brain works,
I'll do that.
You're saying you'll do that within a week.
Yeah, unfortunately, if it grabs hold of me,
because I did put House of Dragons episode one on one time,
and it came and it said the same thing,
like this is hundreds of years before, blah, blah, blah.
And then the same thing that kind of took me out of Game of Thrones
took me out of this is like,
I just felt overwhelmed by how many storylines
I felt like I was about to get into
that I had to put it away.
Like, I need undivided attention
if I'm going to buy into something like that.
But the issue is,
once I give it undivided attention,
then the intrigue takes me.
Yeah.
And it takes me into a fucking corner.
The web is not as wide.
Yeah.
For all the different little storylines.
It can be created that way
and you can start to piece stuff together
just for people who are die-hardth Thrones fans.
But it's not like as confusing as like Game of Thrones.
Like Game of Thrones, you need to put in a good,
give it a good two seasons.
And then you'll start to get on board.
House of Dragon starts to get you fast.
It does.
And the reason I think Taylor would like it
for the same reason you like Shoresy
because I feel like you like shows.
that have really good character development,
you kind of fall in love with the characters.
House of the Dragon is fantasy.
There's dragons, there's magic, there's knights.
But the characters are so much fun to like fall in love with,
to follow, to root for.
I feel like you'll love that aspect.
That is fun.
And I do have like a guilty pleasure
when it comes to like medieval times.
Like Skyrim, when that game came out,
that thing had me for a while.
I was out there blacksmithing for hours
just to get dragon armor.
Oh, yeah.
It was hours, bro.
Literally just sitting there.
You're sitting at boom, boom, hammering away.
Thinking this is really,
was going to take me to the next level of my life right here at this.
It's,
that's the type of shit that I have a weird obsession with.
So I don't have no idea why I have not fully bought into it.
You'll love it.
Need to.
Speaking of love.
Somebody, a little batch party?
A little batch party?
J.P.
For those of you who don't know who you should know,
J.P. is getting married.
less than a month from now
and you just had your bachelor party
how'd that go? What'd you do?
Why weren't we invited?
Because
Why isn't Taylor doing the wedding?
Why aren't I doing the wedding?
Is that what you're getting at?
I wasn't, but thank you will for just walking me into that
because my little brain didn't figure that out for a second.
We do have beef,
but let's not talk about your bachelor party first.
Bachelor party, we went to Folly Beach,
South Carolina, which is right near Charleston.
It was me and
eight others.
eight others in I, eight others in me actually.
Yeah, yeah.
And yeah, we got in Friday, went to the beach all day Saturday,
went to some of the beach bars,
and got in some classic late night FIFA NCAA gaming.
Temperes were rising because one of our friends did bring,
shout out Evan, he brought his PS5.
So we were gaming, had a nice little stat line with Nick Harbor,
my first game ever.
One half, seven catches, 359 yards and five.
touchdowns the dude I was playing against was horrible but it was perfect it was my ideal
bats are weekend because I'm all about the beach so we got out to the beach early on
Saturday played a ton of spike ball went into the water did some body surfing played some
soccer tennis and lost my voice then we went to my brother's house with all the animals
Steve Irwin Jr. yes and yeah man it was awesome we got to make that trip to your brother's
house it would be awesome y'all would love it
He's entertaining, too, like he's a good host.
Spikeball needs to make a comeback in a big way, too.
It's such a fun game.
Maybe the best beach game.
I don't know all the beach games, but I do love Spikeball.
Yeah, in my mind, I don't know if I can argue with that.
Without putting too much thought into it.
That is a great...
There's classics out there.
There's Bocci ball.
I think Bocci ball's over there.
I'm with you.
I don't fully understand it.
I understand it, but...
Bocci balls where you throw the little ball right,
then you try to get the ball closest to box.
It's rolling horses.
Oh, I love that.
game that's a great game better than spike
I mean not better than spike but I feel like it's a fun social casual game
yeah yeah kind of like you're golfing a little bit like you're not putting too much
effort into it competing yeah golf is really good bring me into liking it um I don't think
you can beat spike man I don't think yeah I know I think spike bowl is awesome but I think bachie's a
is a very quality game for the something's left on is going about knee deep into the ocean
bringing a volleyball if you have a group of friends making your little circle keeping it up somebody
yeah and then ultimately somebody always ends up diving either they make a sick play or they suck
and you get to chew them out yeah the diving around dude anytime there's like a body of water
and you're a boy you can just kind of jump in the water and dive around get in the pool dude
just like you're doing backflips underwater just like body surfing is so late body surfing
is a nice little deal you body surf I don't think so either he's not sure I'm sure
You guys know, I surf for real.
I don't know, man.
I served for real.
You all saw me in Hawaii.
I did it.
You for real surfed?
Yeah, I fucking served.
You liked that, huh?
Yeah.
Boys hanging 10.
I'll show you out to the bar.
Willie Slater.
Willie Slater.
He has no idea what that is.
No clue.
I'm just kind of looking around like, yeah, yeah.
Kelly Slater.
Dude.
Like the greatest American server of all time.
Of all time.
Okay.
Johnny Sunami.
Willie Sunami.
Johnny tsunami.
That's a great.
Great.
Bring back Disney Channel original movies, man.
We need that in a hurry.
Yeah, a little slated.
That's him.
He lives in Hawaii, right?
I think so.
I think he lives in Hawaii and he has like this little compound.
He's like, wakes up every day, surfs, does his little cold tub routine, works out in the pool, chills.
He just lives a dream.
He just lives his dream for sure.
He should have been on the top 100 athletes, actually.
Did that finish?
Yeah.
Michael Phelps, number one.
No.
Taylor Lawan or Will Compton.
Come on, man.
Obviously, that's mainstream media.
Michael Phelps, number one?
Yeah.
I mean, Michael Feltz.
Wait, well, yeah, why you say it like that?
I mean, he is.
Number one, bro?
Bro, he's like the number one.
He's one the most gold medals at anybody, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, but swimming.
And he did that high.
Yeah, it's swimming, bro.
Swimming's a hell of a sport.
We should get well in the floor.
I mean, I don't think I can swim?
I can swim, dude.
Bro, you think you need to swim like that?
I bet you got three.
Maybe four labs for you gas out.
Oh, actually.
That thing you instinctively do when you fall in the water?
I was talking to Sherm about it.
We should somehow do like a, you know how in track they'll have like the world record pace or swimming they have world record pace?
We should do a vlog where we compete against the world record base and see like the 200 meter dash and put Usain Bolt's world record and compared to ours or swimming.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like 50 free.
I'm down for that.
That'd be fun.
It just, it's just wrecking us.
That'll be awesome.
Michigan, man.
The smoking did happen at South Carolina at the university.
Yeah.
I mean, that dude's stay.
Shout out South Carolina one more time.
South Carolina really does have everything going on.
Who is the top five on the list?
Michael Phelps, Tom Brady, LeBron James, Serena Williams.
That's what I'm saying, man.
You're telling me Michael Phelps over all of them?
Maybe.
No.
Worldwide.
No.
You and I live in this small little tiny bubble of football and a little dash of everything else.
Oh, but this swimmer who's worldwide, you're going to be like, oh, they're the greatest athlete.
How many Olympic games did he go to?
Three?
Yeah, I'm sure he's the most decorated.
I'm sure he's the most decorated.
I'm not saying that.
So if you're talking about strictly athletes and I bring up Tom Brady, your argument is he's the most decorated.
But athletically, Michael Phelps is a better athlete than Tom Brady.
No.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, he is.
And I'm sure Tom would sit on here.
and probably say yes too.
Because he's won seven titles.
He doesn't need to argue for himself about anything.
Well, Michael Phelps need to argue for himself.
The most gold medals.
You're talking about decoration.
Michael Phelps is more decorated than Tom Brady.
And Tom Brady is known as a bad athlete.
That's why it's like such an anomaly that he's this, he's like that great.
The list is the most decorated athlete?
No.
Of all time?
Best athlete of all time.
You're telling me Michael Phelps is a better athlete than LeBron James.
So now you're going to switch to LeBron James.
Well, he's the next one.
Well, that's crazy because,
Where was Michael Jordan on it?
Because now that, would that put the end of the debate?
Yeah, of the 21st century.
Serena Williams.
Serena.
Michael Phyllis had interviewed.
Serena did interview.
She's like, if you took like the top 100 tennis players, male tennis players,
she would get the shit kicked out of her.
Do what, say that again?
Serena Williams was doing an interview, and I literally just saw this in a condensed clip,
but she was talking to somebody saying,
if you took like the 115th ranked tennis player male tennis player they would beat me
over and over again i probably wouldn't even score a point 6060 quick yeah 6 06 oh 6 oh quick
she said i don't know the scoring in tennis because i don't want to butcher it but so who is it
jokovitch jockovitch nidal federer they would stomp her they would stomp her yeah her
her word's not mine so they should be up so no then so i'm just saying the argument you're still
phelps in the front lebron james is an insane athlete in the longevity like i could see the argument
as far as strictly athletic ability.
So you think Michael Phelps
is a better athlete than LeBron James?
No, I literally just said.
I could see the argument for LeBron James
because of how much is your opinion?
I'm asking you your opinion.
I don't know shit about either of these sports.
For me to say, I'll just say whatever right now.
Michael Phelps.
He might have been the most committed athlete of all time.
Michael Phelps?
Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of hard to say
about everybody at the top of their sport.
No, I mean, he like legit on record training.
six days, six years in a row, didn't miss a day.
Like seven days a week.
10,000 calories.
Sounds a lot like my career.
Sounds like your NCAA football video game career.
Within a week's time.
Yeah, I put my 10,000 hours in.
Somebody who didn't put their time in?
LeBron.
Who else was on there?
I'm going off the dome right now.
Yeah, that was impressive too, JAPE.
You need a lot of credit.
Federer Nadell and Djokovic are like in the top 15.
Massey and Ronaldo
Which you could argue that there
As far as athletic ability
Yeah I'm just saying
The most decorated swimmer is not the best athlete of 21st century
That's all I'm saying
I think he's a great athlete
You're disrespecting swimming quite a bit right now
Compared to the other sports
1,000%
Simone Biles
That's a good one too
Yeah, a great one
Tiger Woods
Do you put Tiger in there at all?
You got to
athletic ability.
And this list he's on this list.
No,
I'm strictly talking about athletic ability now.
They're obviously putting in achievements in this as well.
Otherwise,
Tom's not making top five.
Michael's not making top five.
I've never seen Michael run or jump or anything,
so you're probably right.
But I'm saying it looks like they have different variables than just athlete.
Like they're saying,
like,
is their skill at their position,
how much they were like essentially ran that for however long they did?
Oh, I didn't know.
I wasn't taking that into account at all.
Christian Alando's 13.
That's crazy.
I know.
No, Messi's better.
Top five bodies.
That dude is fucking chaseled.
Top five body for sure.
For sure.
Like Shaq?
I love Shaq, dude.
Yeah, but athletic ability.
Patrick Maherty.
How fast is Shaq?
Bro, you need to watch young Shaq.
I might need to.
Once again, Cindy Crosby, have you seen a hockey player run?
It's hard.
What?
They're fast.
No.
They look like they're skating.
when they run.
I mean, they look like
they're skating for sure,
but the general hockey player is
fast.
There's a different breeds of human, man.
Lewis Hamilton was like 18.
He's your driver.
Do you think that counts?
I don't know who Louis Hamilton.
Who's Lewis Hamilton?
He's like the most decorated
F1 driver of all the time.
Where's Dale?
That's NASCAR, brother.
Is JJ Redick on this list?
Another beer Olympics.
Or beer games.
If Simone Biles wins as much she did in the last Olympics,
does she go higher on this list now?
She's like six or seven on this list.
She would go higher, yeah.
Payne Manning.
Should he be on the athlete list?
Should he be on the athlete list?
Definitely not.
You see, it goes on Tom, right?
Talking about a statue, flat quarterback with a brilliant mind and a good enough arm.
Peyton Manning right above Randy Moss.
Randy Moss?
Yeah.
Yeah, Randy Moss behind.
and manning when we're talking about athletes that's crazy I'm with you bro
there's a lot of white guys on this thing I don't know about this there we go
great athletes on that list no dude did I know we're looking at this list right now
but I am so excited for everybody watching listening I am so excited for you guys to
watch the mentalist those on this episode it was the most nuts podcast we've
ever had. It was the most fun
I've ever had on a podcast.
The things he did
to us
were fucking mind-blown.
And I said it on the episode.
This is, that was the craziest thing I've ever witnessed.
Yeah, I don't want to give it away.
And if you're listening to this right now, I really
suggest you go and watch this as well. You have to watch this episode.
It is insane, bro.
Insane.
And I love to see all you conspiracy theorists try to break down the shit he did.
because I don't think there's a way
the thing he did with us towards the end
even I mean mine
which I we've talked about this
bro he never saw my phone
he never saw my search
yours was wild
all of ours was wild
yeah all of them were fucking wild
yours is wild because he got the mistake right
yes that is insane
that's what almost makes me feel like
there was something
I don't know
that like if he hadn't got the mistake right
not a hater but i feel like i don't know their technology has come a long way and my my conspiracy
is that he has some program on his phone that he gets close enough he can identify what you're
searching or something along those lines because the mistake getting right that kind of threw me off
i don't know there was a conversation about why doesn't he work for the government i it has to be
something technology based right because he never saw our
phones, Jack. I know.
And he got
explained the Taylor's one. I know.
I'm not saying all of it. I was mind-blown
the whole time. I wrote that down on a piece of paper
my phone was not even... Stephen's ATM card.
I trust me. I'm not saying all of them.
The dollar bill. With the
cards. I'm with you guys.
That was the most nuts thing ever.
But why would he get the mistake right?
I'm just promoting
just a thought. I'm a
Oz Dementalist.
What is the same to us?
I love it
but someone's got to talk about it
yours was nuts too
it was crazy
he guessed the contact in my phone
that I picked beforehand
I mean
cut that
it was just wild man
it was such a crazy
crazy
deal
oh we didn't do any
tear talk or twisted questions though
yeah we should do this
let's hit a twisted question
Mitch you got a twisted question
yeah
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What do we have, brother?
Would you rather have to start a new job every year until you retire or a way?
only have one job for your entire career.
New job every year to I retire.
Because it depends on the job.
That's, yeah.
That one wasn't too exciting to me.
I think you just, at this point,
you just want to answer it as quick as possible
and make me feel as bad as possible as soon as you can.
No, there's been some good ones.
Same job.
What about literally three weeks ago when we had Kid Alon
and there was the grill and snake.
Give me the same job.
Yeah, I don't doubt that with you, man.
podcasting
coach
every day
do it till I die bro
to the wheels fall off
go to you can't go no more
bury me on the field man
new job every year
I think I would go insane
but it was the same thing
every single year
nothing you really look forward to
because you know what everything's coming
championships
chasing championships
yeah chasing championships
there's zero drive to want to coach for me
I'd be a terrible coach
I really think so
let me get a line coach
I'll get a line coach
help the boys out
mold young men
that's it
what variety of jobs are you looking at
no no that's why every single year
is gonna be exciting
what am I doing next year
yeah
I like that
you might be happy
you might have to move
every single year
that's true
I don't know
that wasn't the fine print man
I mean there's a lot of you can
you can pick this question apart
yeah
you know what I mean
it's like are we
Is it, are you getting a pay bump every year?
Yeah, every year is a new place, new location, new stuff.
Is it raining them?
Sucks for my kids.
But guess what?
Kids that are born into military families, they do that too.
And if it's good enough for keeping our freedom, it's good enough for me.
All of a sudden, are you wearing a helmet and you're doing construction trying to build a building?
Hell yeah, dude.
Learning new skills every single day.
You have the boys, I bet you a construction site, you're going to find the best group of boys there.
Hanging out.
Cat calling the ladies.
It's like camp eyes.
Every day.
Construction's awesome.
Yeah.
Construction is awesome.
I did it for half a year and the boys.
It was incredible.
Yeah.
The vibes were high.
Hang out.
I did landscaping for one day.
One day only.
My brother's a four.
Tell my mom to get me out of here.
And this man wants to talk about adversity.
You want to talk about bold and young?
How are you going to walk into a coach's office or a meeting room with kids that you got to
work your ass off every single day?
I try with landscaping, but only did for one day.
Yeah.
Look, it's the same thing.
It's like, I know I want to chase like,
playing football as a hard sport,
but I know I don't want to be pouring concrete.
Man.
Could I physically do?
Imagine being the best at pouring concrete, though.
You know?
Building a beautiful home that families are going to grow
and be nurtured and loved it.
Solid foundation.
Put insulation in the walls.
So when the storm comes,
they feel safe.
That's the type of guy I'd want to hire.
I'd be that type of guy.
I would be that guy for one year.
That's exactly what my brother does.
But to go back to what the construction thing
he's like a foreman on like on like some construction site
that means boss and the people he works with are not the boys
they're
all right tell us about the border they're not the
no they're like the people that like went to jail
and like this is the only job they can get that are reformed that did their time
they're just trying to make ends meet for their people
and they're bad workers sounds like
so he's around a bad crew
no he just he just got a bad squad
So fire the squad, get a new squad, dude.
Yeah, we got to keep him safe.
I probably shouldn't have said that.
And we're not cutting it.
You can cut it out.
You can chop it out.
I think, I mean, what are you boys doing?
I'm doing every, I'm with you.
I'm doing a job every year.
If it was something that I really loved,
if I got to choose what that same job was for the rest of my life and I loved it,
I think I would stick with that.
Yeah.
That's the way if I'm on.
I'm with Taylor.
I'm taking a new job every year because you would be one of the most accomplished,
knowledgeable people.
And retirement is still on the table.
Yeah.
So you hit a retirement at 55.
You have all of these skills.
That's a...
He said...
You got a lot of identity capital.
He said a different job every year for the rest of your life.
Yeah.
Not like you get to retire at 55.
I'm just saying.
Because if you take the approach about retirement, you can become a master in one
craft and retire in your 40s.
To our point though, JP, having kids
and the kids, you like, they'll learn
the skill sets and be like, yo, my dad can really do everything.
It's called, I have a problem, I'm going to call my dad.
My kids cannot call me for anything.
Right.
I have no skills.
It's called identity capital.
And you would have a lot of it if you worked a new job every single year.
You wouldn't have shit, dude.
Yeah, bro.
I'd be a master or something.
I'd be climbing.
I'd be trying to be the best at something.
I'd rather be a jack of all trades, man.
Same.
Jared?
I mean, if you get to, if you like,
the job same job forever because there's not more than five jobs I would enjoy so after
like five of the new job every year I'm gonna start hating everything so if I get one that
I like I'll do that one forever yeah I mean unless you have like 50 60 jobs that you
would like to try which you might but I don't I I hate most things besides like this
I hate a lot of shit too I'm with you bro I know what I like I know what I don't like
look at a mirror hey that's look at them here Joe you're be grumpy by the time you're
34 years old.
I'm a happy boy.
You at times.
I'm a happy boy.
Jack?
A new job every year.
My ADD, that sounds incredible.
Yeah.
Just if you hate it, shake it out for 364 more days.
If you hate the, like, do you get to pick the job you're doing forever?
We don't know.
It seems like we're just kind of saying whatever we want to say.
I hate the hypotheticals.
You're like, we get way too invested in these.
I do love the hypotheticals that, man.
There's so much fun.
Because it's like if you're doing what you love,
Like why are you trying to change it?
And then in the next year you can be in something that you hate.
Yeah, but what I'm like eight years down the line and like you have like a weird falling out with your superior or the people you work with and you're stuck there forever.
Stuck there.
And then all of a sudden what you like in your 20s a lot of times is not what you like in your 40s.
You're single.
You meet a girl.
You got fall in love.
Do you guys break up?
She still works there.
Your heart's broken.
How do you survive that?
Yeah.
You get blacked out at the.
the company Christmas party and then you got to go back and you're just the guy who like pissed on the furniture.
Janice's ass to the whole time.
She feels some type of way about you.
There's a lawsuit going on right now.
You don't understand.
You can't get out of the whole thing.
It's a bit of a deal.
Can't get fired.
And that sounds scarier than almost the idea of getting fired is not being able to get fired and being stuck.
Weekend jail time.
You just lost all your days.
That's the way you wanted?
I don't think so.
There's a.
You want to change?
No, there's another question that kind of goes along with this.
Would you rather get paid a lot of money for a job that you hate
or get paid minimum wage for a job that you love?
Say that again?
Get paid like over six figures for a job that you hate
or get paid minimum wage for a job that you love.
There's a lot of variables that could go into that.
This is an easy answer for me.
Get paid more for a job that you hate.
knowing in my head if I'd grind this out for a couple of years,
I can stack enough on the side and I can dip.
Being something you love, you're just,
you're confined to such a small box for making minimum wage.
Like now you're worried about feeding your family.
This economy and this economy right now with this kind of inflation going on?
No shot, brother.
Give me the same figures.
Give me the job I hate.
Let me enjoy my weekends.
Three, four years down the road.
Guess what I did?
I bought real estate, dude.
I bought real estate.
I'm making passive income.
I'm out.
Yeah.
I mean, if that's what you get to do, for sure.
Because you can do the job that you hate.
You're making enough money to where you can parlay it into something that you enjoy doing
and build your own business.
Yeah, that's like one of those things where you got to have like,
I would have to add more stipulations because then you're like,
oh, I'll only work for three years.
Right, right.
That's what I'm saying.
Ultimately, you want to be doing something that you enjoy.
Oh, yeah, ultimately.
You're, you.
Crazy.
I enjoy in a doctor, folks.
Yeah.
Yeah, man
I feel like Mitch gets more and more hurt
every time we do this episode
What do you mean?
I hate being charged with stress depression
Those weren't terrible, bro
They weren't bad
No, but we never even said it
We never even lashed out at you
You just say, go ahead,
Answer Quake
And just make you feel
As small as possible
You made it this big
Your feelings are you
I didn't make it this big
You guys giving me shit for as long
I've been getting better at them
But for as long as you guys
have been giving me shit for him
Mitch, you play football?
You play football, yeah?
Yeah.
You have a couple of bad practices he didn't like.
Yeah, but not.
A couple of those you weren't a big fan of,
coach got on your ass a little bit.
Did you go to the next practice
after those practices you didn't like
and keep that last practice with you
or did you try to change the narrative?
Or did you keep the same mindset
you did after having the bad practice?
I don't need a motivational speech.
I'm just asking you a question, brother.
That's all.
We're here to help you.
Hey, we can pat you on the ass.
You can shit in our hand,
whatever you want to do.
We're here goes, we love you.
we just want you to be better
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this owes podcast man it really is like nothing you've ever experienced
it yeah no it is the best it is the best
and again high recommendation watch on YouTube
you want to see this shit go down I mean it was a spectacle
a spectacle this guy is a I mean honestly
he's just an incredible hustler
I can't understand how he did it
And you can kind of feel like...
How is it a billionaire?
Yeah, you kind of...
Yeah, you might be.
You never know.
And if not, I'm sure he can negotiate it up based on reading your body language and everything else.
Telling you.
With his skill set, he could literally do any job.
Yeah.
Well, any job?
I'm just saying, like, if he was in real...
You'd pour concrete?
He'd put the shit out of concrete.
And he would use his mind to get people to pour the concrete for him.
He'd be the best foreman around.
Yeah.
Right?
If he was in real estate, he'd be able to talk to the real estate.
estate agent read her body language and know that they're willing to go up or down based on the
conversation i'm sure he does that i'm sure he does that crazy deals that's a businessman like i've
never seen before yeah that's a mike ross from suits and not to mention we were talking about
with them afterwards but the dude is a runner like he gets he like wins these marathons
no yeah crazy yeah like what two he's got like two uh world or two records right
fastest times recorded so these aren't it's not something that a lot of people's
but he has a couple of Guinness Book World Records, yeah?
He ran all of Long Island, right?
That's what he said?
Fastest.
From the north part of the Long Island to the south.
He ran around Central Park the most amount of times in one day.
And the park opens at like 6 a.m.
But for his age division, he has won the New Jersey Marathon four times, five times.
He's a psycho.
He's got a psycho mentality.
He's got a Goggins mentality.
Yeah.
Because even on the time where it was fastest recording from.
on one side of Long Island to the other.
It was the hottest day of the year.
And he's like, good.
Yeah, he wanted it.
Jackal, yeah.
Good.
Yeah, the fact that him and Goggins haven't done content together, yeah, it's wild.
Because they both just ran and he did tricks while they ran together.
Do you think Goggins would like all those tricks?
No, Gagins would get pissed off.
I think, I don't know, man.
I think that would even break down even the most tough guy walls.
The shit he was doing?
Not Gagans, bro.
Gaggans would get pissed off.
Can't get in there.
Yeah.
I guess everybody's got a cryptos.
tonight, man.
Yeah.
Well, it's insane.
We,
should we get to the episode?
Let's get into it.
Let's dive in.
Let's just dive in head first.
Oh, yeah, but we still got to hit shout outs.
We still got to hit shoutouts.
You got a shout out?
You got some shoutouts.
I got a shout out in my head in three.
Shout out your birthday.
Shout out your birthday.
Shout out having a birthday, man.
Having a birthday, man.
Where it kind of feels everything's about you.
But also, shout out, no free shout out.
Taking your kids to the movies.
just you and them watching the movie all the way through.
I had my first experience.
Willow turned four this weekend.
Win is now seven.
And it's just we went.
We saw Just Pickle of Me Four,
which not a great movie.
Wasn't good by any means.
But they sat there and they watched it the entire time.
They enjoyed it.
And I sat there because I love watching movies.
And it was just nice for me and my kids to sit there and enjoy a medium popcorn together,
split between the three of us and just.
Hey,
have you checked out Inside Out?
yet? No, I want to, though.
Bro, you got to get one. I know. I tried to go see it yesterday at 2.30, but things came up.
So I did 4.50, despicable with me 4. But shout out, no free shout out. My kids' attention
spam. Shout out, no free shout out eating in a parking lot by yourself. Last week after we went to
the post Malone, a little post Malone concert, your boy pulled off in the McDonald's because
the draft for, what is it, the dog walk podcast, the boys in Chicago. Dogwop podcast was out,
so the burger draft was up. And so your boy was feeling a little.
horny for some for some burgers so I pulled in I want to get an old school one because I
had McDonald's a big Mac in a while so I got me a Big Mac also a quarter pound of the cheese
and I sat in the parking lot Nate and matter of fact shout out no free shout out to guys saying
nice truck yeah because the dude in the drive-thru was like dude I love your truck it's a nice truck
I was like appreciate it man I whipped off into the parking lot and just sat there just me
myself and I man enjoyed me a Big Mac that is a great shout out of free shout out oh
I've had a shot enough for shout out we talked about
last week. But shout out, no free shout out, night football games when the lights hit the
helmet. I think that is one of the coolest looks you can have Friday night lights.
I specifically remember Michigan versus Notre Dame, first night game, sign the winged
helmet with the lights on it. It just adds a new little level of umph to a football game,
man. I think that's a special little look. Off that too. Shout out. No free shout out. Oakley
visors. Go ahead. Expand.
That reaction back there, it's like nothing else needs to be said because everyone knows the aura of the Oakley visor when you're in high school, even some in middle school.
You want to get that Oakley Viour.
You want that O sitting up top.
Not any other design, nothing that's blank where you can get some cool mirror ones or some cuty little unique ones somewhere else.
You want the Oakley brand sitting on your visor.
That's why that reaction happened in the back.
Because everyone knows when you're a young, when you're a young cat coming in a.
up in the ranks in football.
The Oakley
visor goes harder
than everything else.
That is only facts.
Also, going off the looks thing
of playing football,
shout out,
no free shout out.
When you're in the locker room
and you're doing your socks
a specific way with the actual scrunch
you want, you put the bands on
the way you want,
and you have a vision
of what you look like,
and then after a game,
you see a photo of you
from the game,
and it looks exactly like you thought.
Whenever,
because sometimes, you know,
you hit the ground,
then you have like one,
like super straight,
but then one scrugged.
Like someone's always a little off.
But you have the exact look you want.
And maybe it's probably the first,
the only way it can happen is the first quarter.
But having that look you actually wanted.
The mentalist.
Oh, enjoy the episode.
Enjoy it, boys.
Subscribe, leave comments.
Have a lot of fun.
This is an incredible podcast.
And also make sure you leave that happy birthday comment
for the special boy over here who's 33 years old.
Thanks, brother.
Thank you.
Which, are we rolling right now?
Yes.
Okay, before.
Yeah, of course.
Let me make sure I'm d-inded here
What was it name?
Do not disturb
I just feel like he's up to something
I just feel like he's up to something
Let me just paint a picture real quick
So is it there's a lot of speculation on your name
Is it owes or Oz?
Dude, blame my parents, it's O's. It's like somebody owes you money
That's cool
So it's not a stage name
It's not like I made this thing up
It's Israeli so it's in Israel
If you ask somebody their name, it's Oz
And so that's how my parents kind of like
Said that's how we're going to say it here
Gotcha.
Now, I should have been Oz.
Should be Oz.
If you say it that way, you're right, I'm wrong.
Blame my folks.
Do you hate when people think you're Dr. Oz?
No.
I'll get paid like that, Dr. Oz.
I actually know Dr. Oz really well.
Do you?
We've talked about how he's like, it's like, I'm the OG version.
I'm like, I'm the new version.
Yeah.
I've done gigs where I get brought up and people think I'm going to be Dr. Oz
because they wrote my name is Dr.
And I present.
And I'm like, I'm not Dr. Oz.
There's no PhD.
You have no PhD behind your name?
No.
So you brought up making as much money as him.
You were in Wall Street for a little.
bit right it's true and I'm sure this gift you have probably helped you out quite a bit
is that cheating is that is that technically are you in the IRS uh no I'm kidding uh this guy
SEC are you wearing a wire here I am wire tailor see it uh no when you have gifts like this is like
why you leave wall street it definitely is useful it's very good for negotiations negotiating real estate
you'll like uh he won't go any higher I'm like you really how do you secrets I feel that's too
vague so far I think such a early vague question no but you you truly are clearly reads people yeah
What am I thinking right now?
That I'm full of crap.
And that you're scared.
And that you're not wearing underwear.
When you walked in, so when we set this whole thing up of you coming on, we were obviously
very excited.
Will's a big magic fan.
I don't know if magic is a difference.
It's kind of like magic.
It's like a version.
It's a subset of magic.
Got you.
It's not like supernatural.
I don't pretend to be psychic or have like, you know, superhero powers.
Yeah.
This is a learnable skill.
But the same way that I'm never playing linebacker, you know what I'm saying?
Like I'm not built for it.
Certain people aren't built to be good at this.
They can learn a trick or two,
but they're never going to advance beyond a certain ceiling.
I have a knack for this that I've kind of been working on for like 25 years.
When did you discover that this was a possibility?
Like for me, I never even knew you could become a mentalist.
I didn't know.
I thought that was like some Houdini stuff.
Like you go and you see these shows and people are incredible.
It's like, oh, they must just been born with that.
Right.
When were you like, I have this ability to learn the skill?
So I started with magic.
So when you think of magic tricks,
you think slight a hand, right?
Like card tricks, how do you do those moves?
And you know there's a trick.
When some dude cuts a woman in half in a box,
you know that's not really her getting cut in half, right?
You know, it's like an illusion.
So the same thing applies.
I started doing this when I was a teenager,
learning how to kind of manipulate people's minds.
And with magic, you're doing slight a hand.
I'm tricking your eyes, right?
My hands move in such a way that I'm deceiving your eyes.
What mentalism is, is I start to just skip the props.
I am able to just think of how you think.
and not need the cards or the props.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, it makes sense, but how do you...
Sorry, how'd I'm kind of...
No, it's not...
If you're using cards,
you're now in control of the entire situation,
but if you're meeting me for the first time,
which we have met for the first time...
Just now.
How do you know the way I think?
Well, I could have looked you up.
I could, once I meet you.
Also, it's a chicken or egg question,
which is you think, how do I think?
But I think how do I guide you to go
where I want you to go?
True manipulation.
If you could quantify
into a few skills of what it would take,
take to be in a position that you're in?
Like, what would those skills be?
Like, when you're a teenager, when you're going through Wall Street,
you mentioned negotiation, that's a skill.
Like body language, like, what skills would you quantify in your line of work?
One of my great skills was not being able to pick up any girls.
So at age 14, this became a very handy skill.
I was like, what can I use to accentuate my four-foot shrimp frame?
And I'm like, I'm not a good singer, but girls love magic tricks.
So that was one good thing.
I also like just getting attention and learning how there's that,
that, I mean, you had a comedian.
here we yesterday. We're talking about Samaril. Amazing. I don't want to timestamp this, but like
great comedians, man, that feeling with the audience where you get instant responses, right?
Like a movie star, you make a movie two years later. You see the movie in a theater. With what I do,
I'm getting that feedback from the audience every second. Like, I came right from a corporate event.
I would not have normally dressed in suit and tie. And in the corporate event, I never know what's
going to happen. I'm getting a feel from the audience. It's very exciting because you don't know
what's going to happen every time. It's not, I don't just phone it in. I try to kind of do things that I'm
jerk that work.
He seems like he seems like he'd be very good at the game
Werewolf.
Yeah.
Familiar?
No.
Have you played a game called Mafia?
A mafia?
It's like a group saying like a game night situation where people are dished out
cards and the idea is to identify who the bad guys are with a group of good guys and
try to kill off those people.
People are trying to lie and do all this stuff.
It's a big manipulation game.
Yeah, it would be fun with that.
It would be awful for everybody else.
We should get a game in though.
We should have to get a game.
Yeah.
I might have a deck of card.
I might have a card set in my backpack.
We've been looking for a deck of cards for.
an hour.
Now we're going to have to hit it after.
That should be so much fun for all of us to play one game of wherewell.
Let's go.
So where'd you grow up?
I grew up in Michigan.
You grew up in Michigan.
You went to the University of Michigan.
I went to Farmington Hills, so North Farmington High School.
Got you.
And then went from there in state to Ann Arbor.
Was there ever a different choice?
I didn't get into two other schools.
Okay, that's not what I wanted to hear.
Yeah.
So I wanted to hear that was the only choice for you.
It should have been my only choice.
But I think even if I'd gotten in, I wouldn't have gone to those schools.
And you did engineering?
I did electrical engineering.
Electrical engineering, and from there, you went to Wall Street.
Merrill Lynch.
So what was the transition there for you in college going to engineering?
I'm sure there's a passion behind that and then ending up on Wall Street and Merrill Lynch.
I kind of didn't know what I wanted to do.
So I wouldn't say fell into a path, but I was very good at math.
So I've always been really good at math since I was a kid, kind of like almost a math genius.
And so math came easily.
It's not that I love math.
I was really good at it.
So it's kind of a lucky blessing.
So I could do math very easily.
So when I started doing computer engineering, I hated it.
Just not for me.
And at that point, my sophomore year, I'm like, what can I switch into without losing all my credits?
Yeah.
So again, not the sexiest thing, but I'm like, I can do electrical engineering.
And I liked it.
And it was kind of interesting.
And it seemed like it'd be a good potential for the future for getting a job, which it was.
But it was not my passion.
This was not like my trajectory.
And if you asked my wife right now, she'll be like, he can't even change a light bulb.
Really?
Yeah.
Getting into mentalism, what was like the first experience that you had, like in college or Walshier or whatever, be like, hey, I'm going to start to carve out a lane.
So I was doing this.
This was my side hustle because I graduated high school when I was 16.
My folks had gotten divorced.
They moved back to Israel.
So I, and I was kind of out with my dad and stuff.
So it was like pretty messy situation.
But I had to pay for all of my schooling myself.
So I had to, when you asked me like why, it was like necessities the mother of all invention.
I was doing magic shows to pay my tuition and that another business.
but I was like my side hustle became my real hustle where at Michigan I was performing.
There was a place called BD's Mongolian barbecue.
Do you remember that one?
Yep.
And so it's gone now.
RIP, but I used to perform there every Friday for all the time I was at college.
Like a lot of people who were my years would have seen me.
And then I'm doing all different events.
I'm doing birthday parties.
I'm trying to pay tuition.
I was doing this the whole time always hustling.
You're working 24-7.
I was working somewhat.
I had like a side business in the summer.
me and a buddy installed and removed boat docks.
Wolverine Spartan boat dock company.
He went to Michigan State.
So we cornered the market.
Yeah.
Everybody, we knocked on their door.
They're like, who's the Wolverine?
Who's the Spartan?
They're like, I'm not doing business with him.
And he's like, yeah, screw this guy.
So we had a very fun dynamic there.
But I was always doing this, but not with the trajectory of, oh, this will be my profession.
More because I had to.
And then later, I don't want to call it later in life.
But in my 20s, when I quit my job, I decided to go after it and see if I could do this full time.
What was your first breakthrough moment?
It's hard to say.
I mean, my big breakthrough was I was on a show called America's Got Talent.
I got third place on there.
And that just like juiced up my whole career, that rocket fuel.
And then since then there's been some big things since.
I kept it going.
Who are the other two sons of bitches that took you down?
I know.
Dead to me.
No, they were great.
Honestly, that show, like I say this fully and I'm a competitive SOB.
Like I like to win in general.
I don't mind that I'd not win that show.
I don't even know if winning that show,
helps your career more than if you
it's all how you use it
right like you will play football look what you're doing now
certain things equip you for the future
in a different way if you win that show
the contract is much more
like it kind of owns you
for a few years they really well yeah
it's a different thing than if you just use the show and
use it as a launch bag what do you mean by owns you
for a few years you just you have to contract your
obligations okay right so like you got to do
stuff for the show I'm not saying anything bad but
if you win you have a lot more
responsibilities going forward
that if you're a singer might be great.
If you're like a different,
I'm a variety act.
So I have a very different business model
than somebody who goes and sells out theaters.
Okay.
It almost feels like you could have a really good performance
on Shark Tank and leave with nothing,
but then your phone's blowing up for other opportunities outside of it.
Or some people don't get a deal on Shark Tank
and then they're a billion dollar company.
Yeah.
I mean, that's happened a few times.
Yeah, no doubt.
So you go from Michigan, you go to Wall Street.
Yep.
While you're at Wall Street,
obviously this is helping you out quite a bit.
when did you go Wall Street to America's Got Talent?
10 years later.
10 years to be an overnight success.
You stopped doing Wall Street, then 10 years after that.
Really?
What did you do in the meantime?
Just made money.
Just like getting in those reps, like doing barn bat mitzvahs, birthday parties, you know, bridal showers.
I was like Mr. Bridal shower for like six years.
Every Sunday afternoon, I'm hitting bridal showers.
14 year old you is fired up.
Finally got it in with the ladies.
That's not bad.
I had just a couple years of being single between college sweetheart and current
wife and my only wife.
There's not, that sounded weird.
That was going to be the next question.
Honey?
No, wife, four kids, very happy.
Very busy home life.
But yeah, I guess that was the only time where actually between all of those times,
I was just the ultimate wingman.
My friends would just use me.
It wasn't even like a pretend.
They'd be like, quick, do some stuff to her and then leave.
I'm like, what?
So I'd be the guy.
Because I could just go up to any group and just, you know,
I know what you're thinking.
I know your ATM pin code.
And now meet my.
friends and they're like yes and then you're just ninja smoking you're just like boom you
you nailed it yeah you bring up your one of four wives like in these conversations
when you get into argument with your one of one wife yes when you get into argument like
that's got to be an unfair battle it's an unfair battle because she's a woman she's smarter and wiser
in every regard so i'm always wrong no matter what so they're the same place totally
The same plane baby is quick, bro.
Very quick.
Is there ever like a manipulation within the house?
And I don't say manipulation in a bad way.
I literally just telling her yesterday this joke and this trick that I thought was so great.
And she's like, yeah, just tell your magician buddies.
Like she is not, she is not the good sounding board.
No offense or she's amazing and everything else, but she's so over mentalism and magic.
Yeah, she's done with it.
She's been around 15 years.
She's like, I'm over it.
What was the experience like on Wall Street?
You know, you heard the stories not ever being on Wall Street.
Cutthroat, the types of people you mean.
You watched the movie Wolf of Wall Street once and you think.
to tell us for everybody.
To me, you did a lot of cocaine and owned a yacht.
And jerked off a lot.
All, everything.
He had jerked off all the time.
Matthew McConaughey was your...
There were quailudes, even though it was in the 2000s.
They were banned.
But no, um, that's a topical joke.
You need to know your history.
No question.
But I didn't mind my job.
So I wasn't in like a situation of every day I'm punching the clock and miserable.
I just simply knew.
And I think a lot of people that might listen to this or in that position of,
this isn't my future.
Like, do you know what I mean?
This is a stepping stone where I wasn't going to climb the course.
corporate ladder and it took time for me to end up believing in myself that I could quit
because you know you're getting a paycheck things are good it's very hard to tiptoe out of it a
lot of people once you get your lane you just get that structure and it's very easy to stay in it
and even if it's miserable if you can kind of coast so for me it was mostly it took some bravery
and some realizations and a few moments that were like kind of whoa aha moments to decide I'm
going to quit my job and go for it what gig did you have at Wall Street I wasn't really I was I
supported the investment bankers okay so I were
worked in tech because I was an engineer, but I would create like the apps.
Honestly, what I was was a pain in the ass for the people who I worked with,
where internally, after 9-11, they made data centers that were like mirror images
so that they can never have another 9-11 and destroy like the infrastructure of our country.
So they would have to have these things called contingency recovery centers.
A little boring.
So when some really smart 45-year-old engineer would be like, I need all of these servers
and to spend $10 million, me, some 22-year-old idiot torp was like,
we can give you $3 million.
Everyone in my company hated me who I worked with.
I was like a punching bag of bureaucracy.
So when we would then go out to happy hours,
they'd be like, oh my God, that's the kid who I hate on the phone.
And I do magic tricks.
And they're like, ah, you're not so bad, bro.
And so it was a great way to win people over
and create kind of camaraderie amongst people
that otherwise would not have liked me
because I was like a project manager.
And that built up where I started doing shows within the company,
higher and higher level shows where they'd hire me
to the point where at one point,
the CFO of the company who's like my boss's boss is 20 leagues up had me doing stuff for him
and I did a magic trick where I turned a dollar into a hundred dollar bill and he goes oh it's like
dude we got to get you working here and I'm like I do work here and he's like I was joking I like no
seriously I work at 95 green streets yeah and this guy looked at me and it's a flippant remark and he
goes what are you doing working here that for him was like he doesn't even remember it and for me
it changed my life yeah about a month later I quit I'm like what am I doing working here
what year was the year you quit 2005 2005 three years before the big crash
You knew.
Timing, man.
Everything in life.
Was there anything?
I just watched the big short.
Were you able to anticipate that?
Yeah.
I just watched the big short a couple of days, a couple of days ago.
And it is a very interesting.
Great movie.
The guy who's the high.
But in 2005 is essentially when they started to figure out.
Dude, I knew it full on.
It's like certain Ponzi schemes.
Like the Wii work, I knew about that one way early.
But one of my friends was Merrill Lynch guy who was trading derivatives and CDOs,
these collateralized debt obligations and explaining it to me.
And I'm like, this is total.
Like, right.
now I know for a fact this is going downhill at some point.
So really you actually knew.
I mean, I knew what's something to look out for currently?
I'd be buying Bitcoin still. I still am very bullish on Bitcoin.
Really? Yes. What's a, uh,
what's a, uh, it scares me. I think in 10 years you'll be happy you did. But yeah.
What, uh, what company out there in the stock market?
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Ticker symbol.
So right now I'm in something called the CNBC Celebrity Stock Draft, where it's like, I don't know, they get 10, you know, celebs or whatever.
And we're picking and I'm in number two.
I was in number one.
And I've done it twice before and I always,
I never won.
I always at the last minute got eeked out.
But I said to buy Carvana and Carvana pop by over 60% a week later like crazy.
I should have more money into it.
And I also put Bitcoin.
So those are the two bets I have this year.
Okay.
Bet at your risk.
At your risk, folks.
Don't yell at me later.
I know.
I kind of want to take everything.
There's a big like 50-50 me right now or part of me.
Trust you is zero percent.
And the other part of me trust you 100%.
110% like we're starting a cult.
Yeah, dude, I really feel like...
I told Taylor to shave his mustache right now.
He's like, I'll just shave half of it.
Just to mess with you.
Just to mess with you.
Because I don't trust 100%.
Just the edges.
What, um...
Just the edges.
We were talking before this.
We didn't really talk about how this whole situation came up.
We were obviously very excited to have you on.
And we didn't know what to expect.
We know you, obviously, you've been doing a big act for a long time.
So you're going to come here and talk a whole bunch.
When you walked into the room and took you five seconds,
to start playing with our heads.
Start sizing everybody up.
Sizing everybody up.
You had Will do a few things.
You had me write down a card and a question.
And then I actually ripped it up and put it in two separate pockets.
You're messing with my boy.
Jackie over here in the corner.
Anybody else?
Everybody.
Get ozed?
No,
nobody's been ozed yet.
Yeah.
We're just planting.
You've already done it because you've come in with such a presence.
You self-deprecating.
I shouldn't be wearing a suit.
Ha-ha.
This is big dummy.
And then all of a sudden you're just coming at us like of seven layers of smoke.
Right.
And it's very like nerve-wracking.
It's very nerve-wracking.
Do you get that a lot with when you go to these like different NFL places, these colleges and do these kinds of things?
What's funny is season one was very funny because nobody really knew who I was.
So the first season we went in, big shout out to ESPN and my boy Adam Schaefter who helped put all this together initially.
And then now it's gotten momentum where I think the teams see the value.
Yeah.
And you could speak to it yourself.
But in a lot of these settings, there's more and more shows not like quarterback, receiver.
Like a lot of these shows that highlight some of the.
players, but you get to see who they really are.
You know, we take the helmet off and not outside of press interviews and stuff.
And I think you get to see them act like real people.
Like Micah Parsons right here, great moment where he gets to just be, we're watching this on
video.
So it's just popped up.
But like, you get to see them act like kids again.
Yeah.
And I think for fans, that's an amazing thing.
Like Joe Burrow, you don't really get the real Joe Burrow.
I got him smiling, laughing, freaking out.
Like those moments are, I think, very good for the team and for the fans.
And so they've seen a value in it.
So season one we did it.
None of the teams knew what was going on.
I had to win them over.
When we came back last season, I mean, every single room we went into.
Like, dude, we know you.
We know.
Yeah.
Well, fired up and slightly nervous.
But also just, you know, you come in with that exact mentality of either total skepticism
or you're bought in or you're on the fence.
And my job is to kind of make you a believer or make it fun.
And it's perfect timing too in the middle of training camp.
It's like you have somebody like those come in the middle of training camp.
Like that is a very fun.
Yeah.
You want to boost morale, and a lot of these guys don't know.
They're on edge, you know, it's the start of a season.
You don't know if you're playing, if you're not, you know, number one in the depth chart.
And you don't know people.
You want to create that cohesion in the room.
The Joe Burrow one is my favorite.
The Joe Burrow one is...
I remember texting David Bakhtiari immediately, like when you did the Packers and just being like, bro, how real, like this had to be some theatrics in there.
The coach asked Jordan Love when Aaron Jones stood up in the middle of my show and asked me a question.
He's like, I got a question for you, buddy.
I was like, okay, what do you got?
Matt Lafleur was great.
The Packers were awesome.
Yeah.
Really good, really down-to-earth team.
You talk about the two different crowds, like one crowd you're walking into to win them over.
Now you're walking into crowds that they already know who are and they expect you to perform at a super high level.
Right.
From a mental standpoint for you, like nervousness.
You seem to have done the 10,000 hours.
Like you're the outlier in your craft.
What's more nerve-wracking for you?
earning the crowd's trust or having to deliver for the crowd that expects so much out of you?
I think it's upping the ante every time, right?
You can't like, you can't hit status quo.
You can't like just, oh, you were better last time.
No, I want to, I'm doing grand slam home runs.
Like this season, I'm going to try and up the ante where it's even crazier things than I've done before,
just things that are going to blow your mind and that are unexpected, like twists and turns,
kind of take mentalism to another level.
How do you figure out how to up the ante?
Like at times, are you ever just exhausted kind of over being the mentalist guy?
You remember Houdini.
Every room you walk into, it's like, hey, do something.
It's shockingly no because I'm like a Superman Clark Kent vibes.
When I walk in in no suit, people don't even know who I am.
They're like, are you an accountant?
The parents at my school, very rarely does anybody know my kid's school.
And then they find out like, seeing you.
One guy who I'm on a WhatsApp group with because we carpool, like halfway through the
school year goes, sends me a clip of me on Joe Burry goes, I just got sent this by six
real.
He goes, I thought you were just like a finance guy.
He's like, is this really you?
He's like, how do you do this?
I can't tell you, bro.
That is wild.
What is the pinnacle for a mentalist?
Like what is the overall goal?
At the end of the day, like you're laying down.
Your loved ones are all around you.
What is the major accomplishment that you want?
Like in hindsight?
And this and everything.
I live in the dream.
So right now I am like the high marauder market is here, but I'm competitive and ambitious.
So I think just continuing to up it where you're seeing this more and more like next year.
I've got a book coming out.
Hopefully a TV show.
More stuff with NFL.
I think I've aligned myself with sports and finance because those are my interests.
And also those are things growing.
Like live sports is the only thing growing.
growing on linear TV and streaming.
So that's where I like to be aligned with things that are interesting.
I like to get people fired up.
I think sports and what I do go hand in hand because it's exhilarating
because you never know what's going to happen live.
You don't know.
Like you see this clip right now that you're watching.
In that room, nobody knows how that's going to play out.
There's no way to know what's going to happen.
It's not fake.
You could call every one of these players, call Tom Brady.
Tom Brady not know me before I walked in that room.
What is your book going to cover?
Like, are you going to give any kind of practical ideas to teach?
100%. So it's how to apply my craft, how to apply the principles of mentalism to your everyday life.
Like at work, at home, in your relationships, how could you read people more effectively?
How could your memory be stronger? All different ways that you can take my skills. And you're not going to be a mentalist probably tomorrow.
You know, most people don't want to. If you wanted to learn, you could do that from a different book.
But what are the skills I have that are transferable to you? How do you become memorable? How do you know if somebody's really lying to you or telling the truth?
Like stuff like that is very useful. So it's a mass market.
It's not designed.
What's something?
Hold, what does this book come out?
Not next year.
I'm going to have to give myself a copy of that.
Sign coffee.
I'll have to probably come back on.
I'll have to come back on next.
Go blue, Taylor.
No question.
What's something simple and practical that you could give?
Um, well, a lot of the stuff that I give is not, we have to get into, like, to teach
how to lie detect and things like that are going to take more time than what I can explain now.
It's why it's like a chapter.
But how to improve your memory is just one of the biggest ones that I can tell you, if you're in different lines of work where you meet somebody and if you're had the feel
feeling where three seconds after you meet them, you're like, I just totally forgot their name.
And now you can't even have a conversation because you're just like, oh, God, what was her name?
What was his name? And you're just like, so I have a tried and true way to for that in five minutes
around, never to happen again. So the key is you're not really hearing the name. You know,
on a shampoo bottle, how it says lather, rinse, repeat. You know, those, there's three instructions,
every shampoo bottle. So I call it listen, repeat, reply. So most of the time when you're hearing
somebody's name, simple trick, you're not hearing it. You're actually never taking it in. You're
thinking about what you're going to say next or what you're having for dinner tonight or oh my God,
my wife just called me and I'm forgetting this for the kids. You never heard their name.
So if you can make your mind a total blank and either look them in the eyes, look them in the forehead,
like do a trick or right when you look at them, you're totally quiet. And right when they say
their name, I go, what was it? Taylor? Do you spell that T-A-Y-L-O-R? Oh, got it, Taylor.
Oh, if you can say their name three times within 10 seconds, even just like that casual re-spellers,
say, oh, I got a buddy named Taylor.
That's so funny.
Great to meet you, Taylor.
You will now remember that name three to ten times more.
And then if you can even pay them a compliment, be like, Taylor, man, love that Western
show hat.
Now in your head, you attach Taylor to the hat or you see what I'm saying?
You create a hook.
So it's listen, repeat.
I repeat the name and then a reply with something that connects the name.
Three times within 10 seconds.
Easy.
Easy.
To put you on the spot.
Are you able to recall everybody's name of the bed and bust?
Everyone that I've met.
So I haven't met everyone in there.
So if I had met everybody 100%, I'd,
know their names, but I've only met, like, I met Jack, Steve, I haven't met everybody.
Okay.
Is the test, should we do this?
Yeah, I know, right?
Hard to remember.
It's all dudes with moustaches.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I told him I walked in, I'm like, are we shooting a porno?
I don't know where I'm at right now.
Yeah.
Boys go with names.
Obviously, Jack, who's next?
Say your name out loud.
Garrett.
Garrett, two R's, two T's, like the way this guy rolls.
Garrett with double R, double T, power mustache on Garrett.
Power mustache.
It's strong.
He's got the best facial hair in the game.
And behind, behind, uh, Garrett.
Mitch. Mitch, Mitchell.
Yeah.
But we're at the Mitch stage.
Like that.
We've broken through that ice, Mitch.
See that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sherman.
No way, are you lying to me right now?
You're not sure.
It's my first name.
Bro, that's my Starbucks name from now on.
I'm walking up.
I'm going, I'm Sherman.
Yeah.
Jared.
Jared?
Yeah.
One R, 1D?
Yes.
Best friend third grade kid named Jared.
Spelled with two R's and O and a D.
I got no one.
Who does that to their child?
Okay, not as bad.
Sorry to offend you.
Bad people do that.
JP.
JP?
All right, I think we got everybody.
Okay, well, at the end of the episode.
Well, you're leaving.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll come back.
We'll come back to that.
Check out bus scenes to figure out if you got it all right.
Right?
If they move around, though, it's very jarring because they all look the same and they're in the dark.
I wish the camera could catch this.
Except for Sherman.
I'll remember him for the rest of my life.
No question.
Sherms, shirms dialed in, bro.
I feel like this is.
Wait, wait, look.
This is a key moment.
Jack.
here, here, let's go over this
because I want to, Jack, I had met earlier
for a brief moment, right?
And if I, right now this is top of mind.
So when I say top of mind is you heard those names,
you know these people, and so I heard their names,
but I want to dig deep where if I say right in this moment, Jack,
right now, think of one of your best friends.
Can you do that?
Yeah.
Right, that boom, how could I possibly know that?
Are we an understanding?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
But look over here.
Will Compton is going, man,
maybe he knew would be here.
Maybe he looked up the crew.
Maybe if it's your best friend,
he could have gone on Instagram
until you just tagged in a photo right.
There's all these ways.
So I don't want the front of your mind.
I don't want something
that could have been looked up.
So I'm going in the back of your head
where you've got a name in the back of your head
that's picked absolutely at random.
And it's a guy.
Is that right?
Correct.
And I want to make sure that everybody knows
that you have not written anything down.
You have not said this a word to anybody.
Literally random as can be.
You picked one person that isn't even one of your best friends,
I assume.
And you got his name in the back of your head right the second.
Is that right?
Yes.
Let's watch.
Think, is it a first and last name, I'm assuming?
Yes.
All right.
This is not written down.
This is nowhere.
This is in his brain.
Is that true?
I want to make sure.
For everybody watching, I swear to God, this is random.
I want you to count the number of letters in this person's name just to yourself.
Please don't use your fingers or something.
Can we see him right now?
I don't know what the situation in the bus.
I'm trying to read his body language just like you.
Are people listening to this on a podcast a lot of them?
Yeah.
Spotify, Apple, YouTube, Rumble.
Okay.
So I'm going to narrate what I'm thinking.
So if you're not watching this and seeing this beautiful mustache and me in a suit,
I'll tell you what's going on.
So I watched Jack while he was thinking of this name when he thought of somebody in the front of mine,
then changed his mind to somebody else, went to the back of his head and he's seen this guy.
And I watched your eyes and it took you a little while to count, right?
If that name is quick, that name was Doug or Ben, it would have been fast.
But if it's Sherman, that's a struggle right there.
That takes longer to count.
And I watched your eyes and you went like this, did it.
And then you did it.
you broke it into two pieces.
And it felt like the two pieces were almost equal.
I watched you.
Was it seven letters?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
Oh, eight.
You just counted the second time and it's eight, isn't it?
Eight's actually...
Don't, don't say, don't, don't say it.
Not saying anything.
He was about to say six, but he counted seven.
He miscounted the first time because two of the letters are the same.
And so he wasn't sure and they were at the end.
And it's an L, but you thought it was one or two.
Russell, is his name Russell?
Okay.
Is it Russell?
Jack.
He's off.
Okay, so...
Well, hold on, stop.
Was that the guy you picked?
Was it Russell was the first guy you picked?
Am I right?
Incorrect, but I don't know how we go about this,
because I don't want to spoil anything else.
Hold on, hold on.
Don't tell me the other name.
But you looked at somebody and you changed and you went to the last one.
Were you thinking of Russell?
Was there a point at which you thought of Russell?
And you said, Russell Smith, is that his last name too?
No, but...
No?
Wait.
Wait.
Dude.
Hold on
Oh my god
What the fuck is happening right now
Is Russell Smith the last person you talk to and you're thinking of?
Show the camera
Show the camera
The first fucking name on the top of my contacts is Russell Smith
I'm not bullshitting
This is what was pulled up my phone earlier
This is the top contact on my phone
When he's telling you to scroll and stop
Yes it is literally
I haven't touched it
It's Russell Smith
It's Russell Smith
And there's only one else
Now when you in your brain
Was that the end result or are you being like
How did I miss this?
I didn't miss anything.
That's who he just told me he thought of.
I don't even know what's going on.
I don't know who he changed his mind to
Because I said don't do your best friend.
He thought of Russell Smith
And then he said, I don't know this guy well enough
So he was trying to think of someone else
But he knows that was who you're thinking of
That's why he's freaking out.
Who the hell is Russell Smith?
We can call him.
He's a guy went to college with
I haven't talked to it like three years.
That is fucking wild.
You know what?
I told you, if I, if we, you asked me about magic, right?
So magic, here, check these cards out.
Yours.
I don't know.
Check them out.
Are they mixed up?
Are they shuffled up a little bit?
Yeah.
Shuffle them up.
I don't want to mess around.
Shuffle them up.
Now, here's the expectation where a magic trick is if, if I say pick one out right now, right
Will and then he picks one out and then he puts it back and then I find it.
No, no, we're not doing that.
Come on.
That's below my pay grade.
I love doing that though.
It's good.
It's fun.
I'm not knocking it, but that I could do that.
So I want to do something unexpected.
Are they shuffled up?
Are they mixed up?
Yeah, they're your cards.
Make sure.
A couple.
I'm kind of nervous.
I'm shaking a little bit.
Whatever you're going to do?
You want?
If you want, I don't care.
They're not in some sort of order.
Here, put them down on table somewhere and push down and kind of like spread them out a little bit.
Everybody should be watching on YouTube and subscribe.
And this is all you.
He's got a deck card, subscribe and he shuffled them up.
It's your cards.
And what I want you do is take and you're not going to look, but you're going to move your finger across.
And whenever you get an urge, you like stop on one.
Okay.
Okay, like kind of go across and it's got nothing to do with me.
If you feel good about it, you just stop on one and it's got to feel right to you.
You got one?
I don't know where it is.
I don't, you take this card and what I want you just take it bring close to you.
I want to see it.
I want to see it very close to you make sure make sure that's here we can't see it just for you.
Oh, you got it?
Yeah.
Do you know what it is, Will?
Yes.
Do you have a pocket or somewhere you could sneak it to or there's just no way we could see?
Yeah.
Cheeks.
Okay.
Now, yours, I'm not going to hang a deck of cards.
You know, you get a special day.
deck of cards. Special one. I told you about this. It's an invisible deck of cards. Grab it.
And shuffle it up. Right. Look at the acting. Even though you know what? Shuffling doesn't matter,
right? You know what I'm saying? So can shuffle them up. Look at that. Look at that. That wrist action.
Okay, stop. And now you take, and this is what's funny, right? I told you that this deck of cards
is special. It's unique because shuffling doesn't matter, right? It's invisible. But they're all,
and I want you to just reach in the middle and just grab one out.
and look at it because that's your card, right?
You could have grabbed the top one, the middle,
and the bottom.
It didn't matter, did it?
Now, this is what's different.
There is no way in the world
that it could all know what it is.
And I forgot to tell you, here,
I'm gonna try to read your mind,
but you didn't even know this,
is that my goal was for you to read my mind, okay?
This is the weirdest thing.
So I want to show to read that,
and I'm gonna fold that up.
So this is not reading your mind.
I'm just to let you know.
You should have a camera again.
Yeah, but oh, I don't want you to see.
I should have done before you even did it
because that's the card.
I'm thinking about one card.
You got that card?
Yeah, not in the pocket.
It's right there.
Imagine it in your hand.
And I want you to just close your eyes.
My heart rate's at 91.
Think red, black, hearts, diamonds, clubs, spades.
Shuffle them up.
It's not even a real deck.
It's invisible.
Keep your eyes closed.
Lean forward for me a little bit, Taylor.
Lean forward for me a little bit.
Keep that mic in front of you.
Pull your hand closer to my,
my voice, bring your hand out, out, out, out, out.
And I want you to go ahead and close your eyes.
Close your eyes, close your eyes.
Keep them closed.
And don't open them.
Don't open them.
I want to open it so bad.
Invisible deck had you think of any card, random, just random, shuffle them up, plucked it out of the middle.
Don't open your eyes, but tell us what is the invisible card you're imagining your hands.
Say it.
Seven clubs.
Now, let me ask you a question.
I love this.
I love this moment.
Because it's exactly what I did with Jack, where he changed mine in the middle and he wasn't
sure.
and I can always get the thought in the front of your head.
But the one in the back,
what was that first car you thought of?
And you go, no one's going to get this one.
There's no one going to get that.
What was that? What was that?
What was it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tell us, yes.
Queen of Diamonds.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Take a look at it.
Get the fucking out of here, dude.
Shut up.
And then, and then I wanted you to see if you could read my mind.
I wanted you to see if you could read my mind.
You wanted to see if you could read my mind.
You hold this.
Look, I wrote this down before we even started,
before we even started.
take out your card
was that was that was that look at this
are these all different and did you shuffle these up and you
tell the audience again i swear to god
swear to god i don't think show show everybody
what was that card that you took out
and tell us what it is
or you know what you open the note at the same time
yeah you can show everybody open that note up
and read it and turn your card around what did i say
what was i thinking of jack of spades no oh sorry
can you guys not see that's really sloppy hand range
you guys see it's a five of spades sorry about that that's a five
show them and I thought it'd be the five of spades.
No way, dude.
That is a five when you really look at it.
Yeah, sorry about my sloppy handwriting.
Yeah.
Even though, quite frankly, if you wanted,
worst case scenario, I don't know if you guys can see this,
but if you wanted, if you were really sticking the mud,
I would take the five of spades,
give it a shake and chain it into the jack
if you really needed me to.
You know what I'm saying?
We would do that just in case, just in case.
Five of spades is right here in the middle of the deck.
Wait, seven, right?
Five, no, five.
Five.
What are you saying?
He just took the five of spades,
shook his hand a couple of times,
and turned it into the jack of spades,
and then it was in the middle of the deck.
How do you do that?
What are we doing?
We're busing with the boys.
Oh, my God.
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And you know what?
Here's what you do.
I want you to think of somebody.
This is the most insane shit I've ever been part of.
I want you to think of somebody.
Wait, hold on.
Hold on.
Wait, wait.
Will, we got unfinished business.
Okay.
I want to know how your mental process worked.
Did you know when you were picking the five of spades?
That's what I was thinking of because I had written that down.
You had no idea, but you just had a feeling to go on that card.
five of spades.
Sorry, my handwriting is bad.
I didn't even think that
could look like a jack.
Did that not look like a five?
That's weird when you said that
because I see what you're saying,
but it was meant to be a five.
How many teams are there?
32 teams in the NFL.
Yeah.
Is that right?
Yep.
And if I ask you, right,
if I were to ask you to pick any player
and you go through this,
how the decision happens
is fascinating to me.
Let me ask you a question.
I say to you, pick any player in the NFL,
32 teams, 53 players, right?
And you close your eyes.
visualize his face. Can you see this player as if he's sitting in the bus with you right now?
Yes.
Okay. Open your eyes. I think that you started with the player's position. Is that how you did?
Yes. Knowing Will is probably skin color. I think it's skin color? He laughed at that. Now you gave me a hint. That was good.
I think he started with position. Then you went to team. Then you went to player. 32 teams.
All right, I'm making this to go.
Think AFC, think NFC.
Okay.
I know.
I know.
Oh, my God.
You know what I'm so nervous right now.
I think something's up.
Something's up.
Close your eyes.
Okay.
Hold up.
No?
Hold up.
I thought the same thing.
For those of you who are listening, he's writing.
Keyword.
Look at that.
it's coming into perspective.
I want to show you this.
All right.
Open your eyes.
Think offense.
Think defense.
Think offense.
Think defense.
Hmm.
You know what?
Best offense is a good defense.
He went defense.
Right?
Yo, no, I'm trying to say just sturdy.
Do you see what's on this table?
Look down.
Do you see everything on this table?
Look down.
Cards.
We've got drinks.
We got everything.
When I say the number four,
what does that make you think of?
Do I say that loud?
Yeah, does four make you think of something when I said the table?
Right here, do you see it?
Corner.
You're thinking of a cornerback, aren't you?
Do I answer?
Yeah.
No.
It wasn't a cornerback?
Corner?
Cornerback.
Did this person switch teams in the last year?
I don't think so.
Okay, I got to preface this because I think we have confusion here.
Are you thinking the same person?
You've got one person throughout.
You just pick a new person.
I'm thinking of the cat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I had, you think it's him, him, he's not a cornerback.
Not a corner.
Played for the Jets last year?
Yes.
Just switched.
Did you not know that?
Just switched to the Buccaneers.
Bryce Hall, isn't it?
Breeze Hall, yeah.
Brees Hall.
Is that not right?
He's on the Jets still.
He's on the Jets still?
I think he just traded the last day of the bucks.
Look him up.
I think he's spelled Breeze Hall.
And I did misspell and put Bryce Hall first.
in the Google search.
Is he Jets or Bucks?
My heart's pounding.
Just type in Brees Hall.
It should be on...
It's a prece Hall team.
It looks like he's...
All right.
Jets, good enough for me.
I didn't know if it was a trade.
I'll take it.
That means Brees Hall might be getting traded.
I heard it here first. I didn't mean that.
Was that really your person?
Yeah.
And I switched.
Who was before?
Don't know that one.
Who was it before?
I'm sweating in here.
It was Christian McCaffrey.
Oh, that was too easy.
I know.
That's what I thought was happening.
So I immediately was going to like a versatile.
Went from running back.
Yeah, running back.
I thought you were going to go Roberts Blaine.
That's funny.
I thought you were going to go to Roberts Blaine.
But he was talking fantasy draft.
I thought he was setting me up to pick Christian McCaffrey,
but I went a little more versatile.
I might you get in a maybe second, third round.
You want to do some predictions?
What predictions are you going for?
NFL.
NFL.
I think we might see a three-peat here.
The Chiefs, that's what I think.
Are you able in any capacity?
Right?
To tip off how you knew that.
Well, I didn't know it perfectly.
So I'm telling you, that's why I say it's,
you never know what's going to happen because it was close.
I misspelled it.
Sorry about that.
I'm having rough spelling day.
But why did I think Bucks?
I don't know who you thought of on the Bucks now.
It's killing me.
Is Will going to plan the Bucks this year?
I think so.
Will's coming back out of retirement.
Year 10 for real.
I mean, my mind's blown, even though he got the use,
were you being serious?
she thought I was thinking a cornerback?
I thought, were you thinking another cornerback?
I wasn't thinking corner.
I was always thinking running back.
But the fact that you landed on Bryceaw, Breece Hall.
And I mistyped and put Bryceaw first in my search bar.
And then landed on Breezo and I told JP, I was like, I switched my player.
I don't think he's going to get it right.
That is wild.
Are you in any capacity able to explain it?
No, I got to leave some mystery, man.
I got to keep exciting.
Can you teach us a small thing?
You taught us learning names three times, ten seconds, find a,
a word play in that
Jared,
double R,
double O,
double D,
whatever it was.
Right.
Is there anything
you can teach us
in the mentalist world?
I gotta think
that's a small little
that's a small little
that's going to take
longer than you expect.
That's the problem.
Okay,
okay,
all wait for the book.
I know.
I'll wait for the book.
Otherwise I teach you
a cool little trick
to do for the kids.
What does the stat
that I had to look up?
No,
I don't know the stat.
I was just trying to see.
You were just,
I kind of move you around.
Son of a bitch.
Do you watch his fingers?
I'm watching everything.
Yeah, because you asked me a question.
I want to know if he thought of because he changed mind like three times because he was with Russell Smith,
but he's like, I don't know this kid as well.
So he switched to the other guy he knew better.
That was the fascinating part about that one.
In fact, let's get, JP.
He had that Russell.
JP.
Think of somebody right now that pops in your head.
Somebody that pops in your, do you got somebody?
Got it.
Is it somebody they would know?
They would not know.
Everything's miced up in here.
Here's what you do.
I'm going to jot this down.
Get a scrap of paper and show the boys behind you.
You guys are going to watch me like a hawk.
Just this person's first name.
Bryce Hall.
Okay.
This is their first name and show the guy behind you.
Make sure that there's no way we can see this over here on this side.
Right now, J.P. is using a Sharpie.
And again, just to bring up my last search.
Like, I didn't close it out.
That's impressive.
That isn't.
Mitch, you got that?
You good, J.P.?
We're good.
Who saw it?
Sorry.
Just the back of the bus.
Back of the bus.
Hold it in half.
Hold it again.
Eat it.
No, I'm totally kidding.
You would have done it.
No.
Garrett would have done it.
That's commitment right there.
Mark, still put in a take.
They saw it?
Shred this sucker.
I'm staring at you.
Jack, hard eye cocking.
Is that thing ripped up?
Hold out your hand.
Rip.
Rip.
Are there any pieces left in my fingers?
No.
All right.
Do you have any idea who we might have just thought of?
No.
No.
I will guarantee you 100% just based on the body language, based on the quickness.
It's a guy.
Is it a guy?
It's a guy for sure.
A lot of dude talking here.
A lot of dude talking here.
A lot of dude thoughts.
A lot of dudes.
When you thought of that person, it's funny how I caught six letters.
So watch the same thing.
Think of your person.
And get rid of that in your hands.
You're comfortable.
Think of this person right now.
I'm not comfortable.
Yeah.
Right?
It's scary.
And I want you to mix up the letters in his first name and just grab one out in your head.
You got a letter in your head?
Yeah.
Now, they know who you're thinking of.
So I wonder how many of you did the same letter.
I don't think everyone did.
I think people did different letters.
People are different.
But most people, when they're thinking of the name of them, which I do with, and they don't
want to do the first letter because they think that might give away the name.
And so I don't think you did that.
You didn't do the first letter, did you?
He thought it's too obvious.
So you jumped in there.
And then you know what he did?
Somebody cuts you off in traffic, Taylor.
Your better self, you don't want to be like you, you, you, you, you don't say anything
anything.
You could feel it.
Yeah.
You could feel it at the road range.
You see how I just said.
I didn't even say the word, but in context.
You didn't even say, but you saw me bite my lip, F.
Are you the letter F?
Yes.
And then there's two of them.
It's Jeff, isn't it?
It is.
Oh, no.
And I was thinking like, man, I did pick an easy name.
That's crazy.
Man.
What's going on?
It's unbelievable, man.
That's nuts.
It really is.
Made me work.
Is it, is it, is it exhaustive for you?
You still got that five of spades?
Not exhausting, but sometimes, you know, you got to really focus.
And by the way, I'm still so blown away because,
my first search was Bryce Hall.
Who's Bryce Hall?
And I was like,
and then I misspelled it.
I go forward,
Breece Hall.
Sorry.
Because he had me,
he had me type out my own stuff
on my own search bar.
I wasn't showing him.
And I was thinking of the player
and I misspelled it first
and put Bryce Hall.
And then,
obviously that was the player.
Atlanta.
I don't know,
man.
It is crazy,
huh?
I'm still skeptical.
Taylor and I thought of three numbers
before you came in.
Lottery numbers?
No,
Just three numbers.
We were like, you know.
Who has the envelope?
Yeah, we have an envelope where we had three numbers.
And our thought was like you'd be able to guess what our numbers.
Who's not in this?
I got an idea.
Who's not even in this room right now that's associated with the show?
Stephen and Alex.
Yeah.
Bring them in.
Coop.
Coup.
Yeah.
You want me to get them?
One or two of them.
Don't leave me alone.
Don't leave me alone.
I need to take a wall.
So.
What are we doing here, guys?
Yeah.
How are you?
Grace.
Hey.
Bro, living the dream.
What's that?
You're going to be an accident.
Double girl dads here.
Well, you did, uh, you did, you have, you four kids?
I have four kids.
Girls boys.
Two girls, two boys.
You son of a bitch.
How'd you do, how'd you have boys?
Did you mentalize your wife at a time of day position?
Uh, no, uh, I don't know, you know, you know, you know, you know, which I have
looked up in a very extensive way.
Yeah, going for three.
Nice.
How'd you don't have two kids?
I see two girl dads.
I said it.
You said it.
Okay.
They coming in?
Yeah.
Just let everybody
Stuff all the boys
And Stephen coming on
Boys
So we had
Those some aggressively short shorts
Huh
Just go and scoot it on
Yeah
Coops can get the sleeper build
Built for radio
You asked me
You asked me another question too
Yeah yeah hold on hold on
You're asking me a question
Steve
Yes sir
I think of jersey numbers right now
Jersey numbers
Jersey numbers
Got it
Well you don't got it
We haven't done one yet
Okay
So I thought we were
No no
Stephen just relax
Sorry yeah
We're all in the
I'm very nervous.
I'm all in the same mental place as you.
Okay.
We've been doing football.
Thought of Breece Hall.
I said Jets, but then I switched over to Bucks.
I wonder why.
How about this?
Imagine a football player right now.
Actually, it's boring.
I already did that.
I already did that.
Let's do something good.
You said when I worked on Wall Street,
what would I do?
How could you use this to monetize?
Do you have any siblings?
I do.
Okay.
Why do it takes so long to answer that?
Because he's scared.
He feels the same way we all do.
Would anybody know your social security number?
My mom would, maybe.
Maybe.
Also, that's not really good to reveal on here
because you can't change that.
Steve's like, I might want to get out of the bus.
Would anybody know your ATM pin code?
No.
Is there any way in the world anybody could possibly know that
if you've written that down anywhere,
you told anybody if you were like, I don't know,
did you even make up your ATM pin code?
I did.
You made it up?
Yeah.
All right, watch this.
Think it's four digits?
It's, yeah, four.
Nice guess.
How'd you?
Will with the jokes.
Will with the jokes.
Holy shit.
Hey, that's going to be our clip to promo him too.
That's the money shot.
Okay.
Think of your ATM bank pin code.
And I want you to think of the first number in your head.
Trying to react.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, zero.
I already knew what it was, but I just wanted to see his face after you.
I was trying to try to do it.
Hold still.
Yeah.
Now, do you think this guy did something silly, like a 66666 or like an 888?
Like doing something ridiculous?
I don't think so.
No, not.
No shot.
No shot.
No.
Glasses.
Maybe Jack.
At 5 o'clock shadow.
This is a man who does a little bit of work hard, a little bit of play hard.
A little.
A little tiny bit of play hard.
Yeah.
So I think you did the first number and you like patterns.
I don't think it's a birthday.
I don't think it's somebody's birthday.
it.
Don't say anything more.
I'm wondering what it is.
First number.
Second number gets bigger
than the first number.
You move down.
That's true.
I know.
Think of the third number.
Think of the bigger or smaller.
Think this way or that way.
Are you going to be mad if everybody now knows your AT&B code?
No, that's fine.
I'm going to have to go change it immediately after this.
Think of the last number.
Yep.
9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
To clarify, you have never written this down.
You've never posted this publicly.
You've never said this anywhere.
Literally, there is no way anybody in the world,
including your mom, knows your ATM pin.
Is that correct?
That is correct.
Did the first number.
Trying to think where you went,
because it felt like muscle memory.
You went back.
You didn't go, close your eyes.
I might have missed this.
I want to make sure I write that number clear
so you don't think it's a J again.
I might have missed one number.
It's kind of like the briefs hall thing.
You asked me, what do I do?
I never know if it's going to work 100%.
You just never know.
I'm asking one last clue, but I'm already committed.
I think one of the numbers repeats in your code, doesn't it, Stephen?
It does.
Open your eyes.
You had never met me before I walked through this door, minutes before I arrive before getting on this bus.
True?
True.
What is your ATM pincode, one digit at a time?
One, five, two, five.
That's insane.
That's insane, bro.
There's no way.
Yo.
Get Portnoy in here next.
I want his ATM pincode also.
I'll split.
I'll throw a piece to everybody.
We might have to put you down, man.
There's no way.
I might not be leaving this bus.
You're a danger to society.
CIA just called.
They need me to solve some crimes.
What the fuck?
That is insane.
Why don't you work for the government?
Maybe my next iteration.
Right now I'm having too much fun entertaining.
Yeah?
Being on the good side.
I wonder how that...
What do you think, a good hacker or something like that?
Because when I'm watching you,
there's a lot of fluff, not fluff, but like you're putting on a show as well.
Like you know answers you're already and then you're playing around,
oh, don't say anything else.
Don't do this.
Not always.
Was there any game in that?
Yeah, a little bit.
Yeah.
It wasn't certain at all.
God.
I really thought I missed one.
So Stephen, I was staring your ass down when he was counting one through, one nine to zero.
me off.
Him just playing around.
Did I tip anything?
Did I tip anything?
Taylor?
Dude, him just being like that.
I did not.
You literally were like this the whole time.
All right.
Good.
I just one, two, three.
Because I thought the first number was three.
Which makes it even crazier that he just nailed it, which I got to go.
I need to get off the bus and go change my bin going right now.
So how did you even identify when he just stared and you were counting and you kind of
already knew that was all.
Is that one thing?
That's such a small.
It's a small little detail.
Jesus.
I want to know.
Please,
Sense.
Yeah.
Sherman,
you got cash on you?
Teach me.
I think so.
Sherman's like, let's go to my ATM.
I'm broke.
Who has cash?
I don't have any cash on me.
No one's got money.
We all got Bitcoin.
Yeah.
Oh, man, I was going to make it exciting.
All right.
Nobody?
I got my car.
I got.
Go run and get a buck.
Or a hundred.
We know it's a hundred.
Go get a buck.
Oh, he ain't got on.
You know what?
Give those a mix.
You did a good job before.
Dude, I'm fucking.
What's the birthday?
All right.
What do you got cash?
Why you have to do it like that?
You can just grab.
What does this guy have right here?
Hey, hey, hey, he just throws the bag on the thing.
Like, why do you got to do it like that?
Zero cash on.
Oh, there's money on here.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's make a busing with the boys.
Grab out a bill.
Oh, we had to do is grab one bill.
He comes up.
Boom.
He's got money and flowers.
Bam.
Not mine.
I want to touch it.
All right.
I want you take.
Take it.
I don't want to touch it.
I want to see it and nothing.
Take it over there.
Take the bill.
I don't want to touch it to be around it.
Hide it.
And I want you to take and write busting with the boys on it.
Don't look.
Do it over there somewhere.
I don't want to see a bill.
I don't see it.
You mix these up?
Yeah.
All right, Graham.
All right.
Let's do this.
All right.
Who has their phone readily accessible?
Do I fold it?
Fold it in half.
Fold it in half.
And I want you to take it and do, how many pockets you got?
What did you just do right there?
Nothing.
Nothing at all.
Four pockets?
Put it in one of them.
Pull up your calculator.
This is the one.
This is like the calculator thing is when I texted Bach.
Ready?
Yep.
How many people's birthday?
Birthdays do you know in this room?
I like the fact that he just cleared his browser history.
Anyone see that?
That was a problem right there.
Good work, Jack.
Good work.
How many people's birthdays do you know in this room?
Anybody?
Garrett's.
Garrett, you know, that's cute.
You know his birthday?
Okay.
That's good. All right. Tell me. Tell me. You know what, don't even say it. What month is he born in?
February. Okay. So put in two and then and then hold it up so I can't see it. So I don't know the day.
And if it's, if it's less than 10, if it's the third, do 03, but if it's the 28 through 28, so put in two more digits for his birthday.
Okay. I'm not adding anything. No, just put in like a three digit number. You good? You did it?
Now, Garrett, think of somebody whose birthday, you know. You got somebody? Take the phone from him.
And I want you to hit times.
You did it?
And now the month and the day.
Now, hear me out.
The month was like December due 12.01 or 1231.
You get it to try to make the number be either three or four digits.
You already hit times.
Put in that three or four digit month and year.
Let me know you've done it.
Do you do it?
You need a year?
No, no, no.
My bad.
Like just a month.
So you've got this times this and hand to one more person.
You decide anybody out there.
Who are you going to hand it to?
Did you keep up?
Hold on.
So if it's like January, it would be 01.
Yep.
You already did it, right?
You did three or four years of your number.
Okay.
Who do you want to hand it to?
Who hasn't helped yet?
I got to make sure I'm on Mike.
Who hasn't helped yet in the room?
I don't know if you see this.
But right now, Steve is changing his bank pincode as we speak.
He's on the phone with Wells Fargo being like, I don't know what the hell happened.
It's a mentalist.
Just change it.
Who's got it?
Who's got it?
All right.
All right.
Here's what you do.
Should we go through everybody's name again?
because you don't believe me that I know everybody.
All right.
Jared,
think of someone's birthday.
You got somebody?
Yeah.
Okay, three or four digit number.
Here's what you do.
One last time.
Hit, hit times.
Big number pops up on the screen, doesn't it?
Yep.
Type in that three or four digit number.
So if it's a month.
Yeah, yeah.
You do it.
Three or four digit.
It doesn't matter.
I'm going to let you do it.
Who are you?
Psycho.
You did it?
Yeah.
100 times 100 times 100 is 1 million.
Fact check me later. Taylor's mind is blown.
So if you right now,
it can't be, right?
Stacks.
100 times 110,000, 10,000,
100s a million.
Hit equals.
You have to be over a million right now.
And you were February and that birthday,
I bet you're over 10 million.
Is it over 10 mil?
Do you want to tell you?
I mean, you don't have to tell me,
but it's like a guess.
It's like just numbers.
Am I over 10 million?
Yes.
Okay.
Here's what you do.
You shuffle these up.
Whenever you want,
I'm going to kind of have you yell out.
the word.
Stop.
Do you see what I'm saying?
I'm going to let them fall
and I want you say stop
whenever you want.
Stop.
Right there?
Try to hit it right at that moment.
Right there.
A little bit more.
You know what?
I have a better idea.
Take and I want you
do it while it's in your hands.
You see what I'm saying?
Take, I want you to feel it.
Listen to me.
I want you to be able to feel
so you lift exactly around.
Take the cards in your hands
and listen to me.
You can lift a little or a lot
but I want you to feel like
it's the right amount.
Lift a chunk.
No, no, in your hands.
You're in charge.
I can't do something for you,
but you got to do at least like a few cards.
You have like some oomph.
Does that feel right?
Feels good.
Are you sure?
Yes.
Put them down on the table wherever you cut.
Like put,
no, no, no.
Like put the top half, yeah.
Like wherever chunk you take off, put it on the table.
Take a chunk and then take the other half, turn it sideways and mark the cut.
Get it?
Boom.
Now watch this.
Is it over 50 million?
No.
Okay, so it wasn't December.
All right, all right.
Because then December would have been 12.
Anyway, Taylor's blind is still blown about a million.
Math.
All right.
I let the cards fall.
You shuffle them like crazy.
And you cut.
You said, I don't want you to do it.
You do it.
And now if you had cut one more card, it'd be different here.
Do you agree?
One more card different here.
Every single place would have been different.
So I want to see exactly in the middle where you cut.
And what I want you to do is one digit at a time.
Is it seven or eight digits?
That number?
Eight digits?
10 million something?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's do this.
One at a time.
I'm going to let you do it right at the exact point you cut.
Tell us what's the first digit.
On the, like the biggest number?
Yeah, the whole thing.
What's, what's it to start with?
Two.
Two.
What's the next number?
Dude, nine.
A nine.
What's the next number?
Six.
A six.
Okay, is that right?
This is getting too weird.
What's the next number?
Seven.
Seven?
What's the next number?
Four.
A four?
What's the next number?
Three.
A three?
Four.
Four.
One.
Ain't no one in the deck.
So how about an ace?
Does that work?
Oh my.
Now, that would have been a card trick.
But you know what?
Money, right?
You're in the NFL.
You make money.
Everybody likes to make money, but money can never buy you more time.
You can be the richest person in the world, right?
You only got so much time.
So what's worth more than money?
What did you say?
Busting with the boys you wrote you signed 100?
I don't even know what it was.
It's still in your pocket?
Yeah.
It's gone.
Check your pocket.
Do you feel when I see?
No, it's not the same one.
Yeah, it's the same one.
Check, check if you signed it.
Yeah, it signed.
You know who else signed it?
Who?
The government.
Do me a favor.
Read us the serial number of that bill on the other side, one digit at a time.
No.
Hold the calculator up.
Read the seal number.
Mitch, you want to...
Go ahead.
One at a time.
Jack, you want me to hold it?
Yeah.
Two, nine, six.
seven, four, three, four, one.
And there's a zero at the end, but that's an O for O's.
O's, man.
That's it, boys.
Hey, that's the most incredible thing I've ever seen.
We leave on a high note. We leave on a high note.
Brother, that was, thank you.
And look behind you, Breece Hall's walking it.
No, I'm kidding. Totally.
That was unbelievable.
Thanks, guys.
Thanks for having me.
You've been awesome.
Seriously, I just...
This is what they teach you at University of Michigan.
You know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying?
Were you part of the cheating scandal?
I was brought in immediately after the cheating scandal.
My episode aired the day after.
And people said, are you really O's Perlman?
You know, are you Connor?
Yeah, Conner's down.
Conner's down.
I'm available defensive coordinators who need to know what the other team's actually going to do.
Yeah.
Where are you going at this training camp?
So I might be a secret.
I don't know.
Oh,
because you know.
Yeah,
you're right.
Even if you could,
we want the boys to be surprised.
I want the boys to be surprised.
That's the reason.
How many stops do you get to go on?
A lot of teams.
We got a couple handfuls of teams.
So pro and college.
So I'm super psyched.
The college,
you know what?
I did Michigan last year,
my alma mater.
So that was really a special thing.
I told those guys,
you're going to win it all this year.
I was their good luck charm.
I'm saying they did it.
But I said at that moment,
I said,
we're going all the way.
We had a 15-0 season.
this year I'm excited.
I think the team that I'm going to go see
is also going to win the national championship.
Predict Michigan's schedule this year.
Yeah, I don't know about that.
I move.
I wish.
Because you got what the first,
how many draft pick did you get right in a row?
13, including Pennix.
Which is the craziest pick.
Now, are you a massive football fan?
I keep track of football.
I don't know if I'm massive.
I have four kids,
so I can't watch as much football as I would like,
minus getting in trouble.
But I, I would say, I've, in the last,
few years with all stuff I do for NFL
after watching so much game footage and know who the guys are
that I've transitioned more to NFL
but it used to be much more college
I will cut this part
but are you going to Titans?
I'm not going to Titans
not in the budget, I get it
not in the budget for the Titans.
Tell them for next year.
They're a little cheap.
I don't think they reached out.
Really?
I don't think so. A lot of teams have.
Yeah, this was an insane.
Look at we have, this is the first wave of every guy.
Interesting too because he went to the Bengals.
Yeah, and you also went to the Jets.
I did Jets and you had a guy go up and you said,
McCle Hardman.
He's going to win this year bowl.
He got traded to.
It's insane.
Then the score that was predicting the game, 3121,
became the number one most bet score on all on draft kings and fan duels.
That score from that went viral.
Look it up.
It's crazy.
And it was the number one most bet score.
Wait,
what did you say?
I had McCle Hartman come up.
You got to watch the clip.
I almost think you should put the clip up.
And I had a puzzle piece,
like a big puzzle that we dumped.
And there were hundreds of puzzle pieces all over the table that were different.
And I said, McColl, you know, it's muscle memory.
Like, so I had him put his arm down and sweeps them off.
Sweeps them off until he only got like 10 pieces left.
And I go, look at him and just pick any two pieces up.
That's what he did.
And there's behind him as like an easel.
And I said, look at those two pieces and go time, baby.
It's like you don't have time to respond.
Last 10 seconds of regulation, drop one piece on the floor.
And he comes over and I say, come on over with me.
And we take it out.
And that one piece fit perfectly in the puzzle.
The center is the only piece that worked.
all the rest of the pieces.
You could check it was of the Jets logo.
Do you understand it was a puzzle of 500 pieces?
And then I said to him,
if you make it to the Super Bowl this year,
and I know you're going to be in the Super Bowl,
McColl, that was the part that was crazy.
So you end up being in the Super Bowl,
not with the Jets.
And I go, who are you going to play?
And he goes to 49ers.
And then I said,
what's the score going to be?
And he goes 3121.
And on the back printed,
I printed 49ers.
You and the Super Bowl,
the 49ers, 3121.
So I guess the score that he did.
So when he predicted that and he got sent back
to the chiefs,
people were like, we're going to start betting the score
because we think it might actually be that.
Yeah.
So it was just a weird life mimics reality.
Or like, just art mimics life.
It was crazy.
Was that your greatest prediction?
It was, I mean, it wasn't the prediction.
I didn't get right.
But I did actually tell him that I thought he'd win the Super Bowl winning pass,
which was posted later because I DMed it to him a week before.
So it was like, we were DMing.
And he's like, dude, I don't even know what to say.
This is so insane.
God.
That's nuts.
Do we have any questions?
What kind of prediction can we get out of them?
What kind of prediction?
I mean, I'm saying that the Chiefs are going to win three years in a row.
Are you a Kansas City fan?
I mean, I like Kansas City, but I just think they're going to pull it out again.
Who are they going to beat?
I got to do my research before I say that.
I don't know.
Who's going to go to the...
Give us your college football playoff.
Foof.
I mean, Georgia's going far this year.
Who?
Georgia.
Who's going to be in the final four of the college bowl playoff?
No, I don't know all this.
Yeah, you put me on the spot.
too early in the day.
Too early?
Is Michigan gonna make the college football playoff?
For sure.
Is Nebraska?
I don't think so.
Oh no!
Bastards.
Before we've met,
before we let Dr. O's leave.
Does anybody have any questions back there?
Anything.
Steve just asked me why did all of his money
leave his bank account in the last three minutes?
There was one thing that we'd start.
So mine was you wanted me to do the card,
which you paid?
Hold on. Stop right there.
Let's do this.
He wants the challenge.
He wants the challenge.
I'm saying, if you're that good, then what?
So if you're that good, then how about this?
Hit me.
What's your question that nobody here would know?
Say it.
What's the question?
Say what's a question on your mind.
Not the answer.
I don't want to answer.
What's your question?
What was the name of my brother's first dog?
Jesus.
I mean, that was really this guy.
She'll have left before he said that.
Is that the answer?
No.
Yo.
Steve, I need you to do me a favor.
You ready?
No.
I want you to go outside of the bus.
There is a silver briefcase.
Silver briefcase looks like it has $3 million cash.
It looks like it should be handcuffed like a nuclear football.
Yep.
Go bring it to me, please.
You got it.
Is that that question you said, that's what you wrote down on the...
Hold on no more, no more answers.
No more nothing.
I want to hear one word.
One word, your brother's, dog's name.
Yeah, my brother's first dog.
First dog.
It's not your dog.
No.
That's weird.
It was not a family dog.
It was not a family dog.
Oh, but it's your brother's dog.
Okay.
Still alive?
Inside of yours and urn with the ashes of, no, I'm totally kidding.
That was super creepy.
Okay.
Avert your eyes for a moment as I bring out.
This lets you know everybody listening or watching
that this wasn't set up
and I had no idea
what was about to happen
or I had something prepared
but now I'm coming in hot
open your eyes
I mean
I said coming in hot for a reason
you'll see what I mean
my business card is right here
that's it bam
O's Perlman mentalist
if I turn this thing around
and the letters
that spell
your brothers
dog's first name
are on here
are you going to be
absolutely blown away
yes
yes right
Yes.
I'm going to ask you one question here.
Okay.
Is it a math question?
No.
Oh, you know what?
A math question.
Count how many letters are in that dog's name.
Don't tell me.
Just thinking the first letter.
Keep going all the way to the end.
See what he did?
No, he did a great job.
What do you do, Will, when you whistle?
What do you do when you whistle?
What do when you whistle?
You whistle.
You whistle. You go like this.
Right?
Do you know what that noise sounds like?
That sounds just like air escaping.
I guarantee you.
I don't know when you did it.
But you did this.
That's an S.
There's an S in this name, isn't there?
No.
There's no S?
No.
There's no S.
No.
I'm going to turn this around.
Think of all the letters.
Why did you whistle?
Is it because you whistle to the dog in your mind to come over?
You son of a bitch, I was.
Try it one more time.
Think of the first letter.
Okay.
Keep going until you get the last letter.
Did it differ at that time.
Rolled your tongue.
R.
Last letter's an R, isn't it?
Yes.
Yeah.
See that?
You tried to whistle, throw me off.
If I turn this around.
I guarantee your dog's name is on there.
Your brother's dog.
Do you want a bet?
What do you want to bet?
What do you want to bet?
You know, I'm 100% going to win this bet.
You know how I know the letters are on there?
All of them are on there.
I wrote every single letter in the alphabet, my friends.
That's called a power move, busting with the boys.
That is a power move.
What do you want to bet?
You betting with me?
Don't you bring a knife to a gun fight again.
My fault, dude.
You know what I said?
I said, I'm coming in hot.
Hold out your hand.
Whole alphabet's on here.
I didn't put a zero and X.
honest, is there a Z or an X in there? Because that'd be a weird dog. Max, all right. Hold up.
Bring your hand right over here. I don't know if you guys can see this. I'm going to bring
this in close to a camera. So you can see that the whole alphabet was written on here before we even
started. Can you see all the letters? Will, come on over. Can you see them? Can you see my hand?
Imagine that my hand goes on top and all the letters start to melt away, melt away, melt away,
until forget the bad joke. All it says is that dog's name. You ready? Yeah.
That would have been so sick, though, right? Oh my God. Yeah. I was. I was.
Look at the blue balls on Taylor after that.
Oh, my God, that would have been good.
You ready?
But I said I'm coming in hot.
So look at this.
Come over.
I think she had a camera closer if you want to see this.
Come on in.
I keep thinking it's over.
I don't know which one's going to zoom in, but look, look it looks like some of the letters are starting to melt away.
It looks like more of those letters starting to melt away until only thing left.
What does that say?
Flower.
That's the name of the dog.
That's the name of the dog and I wrote it down.
Flower, keep it.
Yeah.
Are you serious?
Dude, look at it.
Oh.
It's way more rip than I expected it to be.
We're going to have to do a little puzzle here, but I swear to God.
It's okay.
He's got a puzzle joke.
You said to rip it up so many times.
I don't care, man.
Yeah, keep it, rip it up.
You don't do that.
You swear to God in a flower.
I swear to God.
The dog's name was flower
We got to figure this out
We have to
Here's a corner
All right boys
I gotta hop on a plane
I'm gonna leave you to not sleep
For the rest of the night
Hey man
Thank you
Thank you
Good stuff gentlemen
Hey
Who's been your favorite
Person to perform for
I don't know
It's a tough one
Maybe President Obama
That was pretty cool
Yeah
So you've had
Shaq Mark Cuban
Yeah those are good guys too
not to knock either one of them.
Shaq is a big guy.
Have you ever revealed any secrecy to any,
to any single individual?
My wife knows a lot of stuff.
She knows a lot of stuff.
Would she know this stuff?
Not all of it, but most of it.
I mean, that calculator dollar shit.
You shuffled, you took the cards out of my hand
and you said, no, I'm cutting.
That's the most insane thing I've ever seen.
He took out a bag of cash in the corner of the bus.
if I remember correctly too.
Not even a wallet, a bag,
oh cash.
You, for the record, I don't even
know if anybody can read his handwriting right now.
It is a disaster. Oh, yeah, I see flow
right there. I don't see anything.
Are you writing in
Korean? I can't tell.
Keep this card. Keep the
flower card. That's a keeper right there.
Yeah. That's incredible.
Once we get this puzzle done,
we're going to take a photo of it and put it on
the episode. Dude, thank you so much.
Thanks, guys.
Unbelievable.
That was so fun.
We got JP, Stephen.
We got Mitch in the back with the headphones.
We got Sherman.
We got Jared, J-Rod, as I like to call them, right there.
We obviously have Jack, Garrett, R, R, T.
We never actually met for the first time.
So, no, you never told me your name.
I only got Steven's name.
What's your name?
No, I would have remembered it.
Cooper.
I was never told this.
So that's a party foul right there.
Dude, thank you, man.
I'm blowing away right now.
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and friends on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, it's Ashanti Plummer from Fud Around and Find Out.
This week, AZ Fud and I sat down with Step and Curry.
Step talks pressure, confidence, and what it really takes to stay great.
There's different categories, I guess, so I'm like conditioning, shooting drills where you try
to simulate kind of games.
Look at her face.
We have a love-hate relationship with those because you know you're getting something out
of it.
You don't look forward to those days.
Listen to butt around and find out on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
