Bussin' With The Boys - Pat McAfee Finally Comes On Bussin' With The Boys

Episode Date: February 2, 2022

Recorded January 21, 2022 | Three years in the making and the time has finally come. Pat Mcafee finally makes his debut on the bus. BUCKET LIST GUEST. During this pod you get to see a different side to Pat Mcafee with Will diving deep into all of Pat's past experiences that got him to where he is today. Moment of silence for what's about to be one of the best podcasts ever. Tom Brady retirement (3:25 - 8:04) Super Bowl Predictions (9:00 - 14:45) SUPER BOWL TICKET GIVE-AWAY (14:49 - 16:17) PAT MCAFEE INTERVIEW (23:40 - End of pod) How Pat got into the media game & leaving football (26:31 - 45:00) How Pat found his crew & his breakup with Barstool (48:00 - 1:05:07) Balancing all of his jobs & importance of his wife (1:15:40 - 1:29:16) What's next for Pat Mcafee, his relationship with Aaron Rodgers, and why he hasn't been on Joe Rogan (1:33:00 - 1:45:00) ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. WhistlePig Whiskey: Visit piggybackcraftcocktail.com for more info and make sure you grab a box in select stores Birddogs: Go to Birddogs.com and use promo code BUSSIN and they'll throw in a free Birddogs beanie NASCAR: The NASCAR Busch Light Clash at the LA Coliseum, Sunday February 6th at 6pm est on Fox. It will be one for the history books Roman: Go to www.roman.com/BUSSINBOYS now to get $15 off your first order of ED treatment.For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Good morning, Tier 1s, Tier 1s, Tier 2s, tier 3s. New people coming in, flock into this episode because we had on Pat McAfee, a goat, somebody who's on the media mount rush more, especially in the podcasting athlete turned media guy, media mogul. But welcome. Good morning. watching in the afternoon or in the evening. Good afternoon and good evening to you all. This is Bust with the boys. I'm your host, Will Compton. My co-host, Harold Luan, he is out in Arizona, getting some sun, soaking it up a little bit. I don't even know if it is that hot to be getting a tan out in Arizona, but I know when I'm FaceTiming with him, he has all the sunshine on him

right now, which it makes me jealous, because, number one, I'm insecure about how pasty I get. The worst part about being white in the winter months is like you start to get super pasty in your hands, like in your feet, below your ankles. I'm super insecure walking around the house. I don't want my wife to see my shit. I don't want my dog to see my shit. But that's funny, dude. Speaking of, it's crazy, the power move, Tom Brady,

just retiring on day one of Black History Month. Doug, I tweeted that this is, what you're watching right now is February 1st when I'm shooting this intro. We shot the episode with Pat McAfee on what, January 21st? But I'm sitting here like, you know, several minutes removed from making my tweet. Not a lot of people talking about Tom Brady retiring on day one of Black History Month, knowing that it would fucking take a lot of different turns,

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Adam Schaefter, all the suits, all the guys trying to get out front of it, be news first, be fast, not be correct sometimes, which happens a lot. But it was speculated that he was retiring last week. Everybody did their tweets. We all assumed that Tom Brady retired. He comes out, comes on, I think it was his show, right? Let's Go, the Let's Go radio show or something like that, the Let's Go Pod. Yeah, and he put out a statement saying that, you know, that it wasn't like nothing was fine. final. Right. That he's still mulling it over. He's still thinking about it, which I respect. Like this man, it's top, number one, it's Tom fucking Brady. He's the greatest player to ever strap it up. You can, everybody's going to argue best athlete of all time, this than the other. He's the best player in this sport with all the accolades that he has. He's the best accomplished athlete, probably of all time. I'm just going to say that out loud. I don't know if that's true. I'm sure people are going to have a lot more championships and that'll start, you know, that'll start something. Everybody's going to have all these graphics. But Tom Brady, as far as football goes, is the best football player to ever lace them.

up. And I think the way this man is with his companies, with his stuff off the field, with content, everything else, and what he's done for the game of ball, like this man should be able to break his own news. And I do think it's unfortunate that people in his camp, somebody leaked it. People are trying to be fast on the scene

and announce his retirement. And he had a retirement today on Instagram. I think there's more that's going to be coming because this man, go ahead, Blas. I mean, he left off 20 years of his career.

Yeah, this man left out a lot of New England. He didn't mention Kraft. He didn't mention Belichick. He didn't mention nothing with New England. I saw Portanoys Presser, which was funny. Like, he's stirring up all the Patriot fans and everything else. I think there's going to be something bigger announced. There's going to be a video.

Like, I think there's going to be some movie. You know what I mean? Like some climatic, climatic, cinematic. There we go, climactic. Some cinematic presentation. Trying to use big words. Don't even know what I'm saying. He still has a series out too right now.

man in the arena. Man in the arena. Still hasn't concluded. Right. I think there's going to, obviously, there's going to be a lot more to it. Again, it's Tom Brady. He's put in 22 years, not as a kicker, not as a punter, as a real athlete in the NFL. And I hate nothing.

I'm not taking away. I know weird shot. That's a weird shot, especially with boy Pat being on the episode today. But I'm saying, like, you see everybody who's played as long as they have in this game, and it's usually a punter kicker, somebody on special teams that's made it that long and that far. But the way time has lasted in this league, yes, There's been rule changes and things that's helped him out along the way from being protected. But to play that long and play that high of a level, like he's went out this year.

I mean, arguably one of his best seasons, man, statistically. But dude, shout out Tom Brady. We're going to clap. And then also, can we get a moment of silence? Tom Brady, greatest quarterback, greatest football player to ever, lace him up? Thank you. I think he's coming back. You think he's coming back?

You think he's going to pull Brett Far? I'll leave it at, I don't know if he's going to pull up. Yeah, actually, yeah. Tom Brady's going to come back, but I'll leave it at that. I think I don't hate where your head's at. I think as much as he's getting involved in the business world and stuff that he does from an entrepreneurial perspective, it's a weird connection.

Obviously the Patriots, Mark Wahlberg's a huge Patriot fan and not saying that they're working together. But the way that Mark Wahlberg is as an entrepreneur outside of being a movie star, I think Tom Brady is operating kind of in a similar fact. I think he wants to get more hands involved, get more involved himself personally and all the businesses and all the things that he has going on. And then I could see, as he does this throughout the off season, not be anywhere for OTAs, not be in the summer, just be all in on the

shit he's doing and make sure it's standing properly. I could see him coming back and obviously continuing to take over the world with everything he does. The only thing is in the man in the arena show, he says, he's like, I just can't imagine sitting on the couch and watching people on Sundays that I know that I can play better than and me being at home and not on the field. That's a good pool. I haven't watched that. That's a good pool, J.P. Watch out.

Hey, I'm into that. So that's where you're getting your, that's why you think he's coming back. Yeah, and hey, maybe he wants another Pro Bowl. Speaking of Pro Bowls, it is officially announced that Roger Saffold, Harold Landry, and Jeff Simmons have all been added to the Pro Bowl

with Kevin Byer. That's huge news for the boys. I think they're all deserving. But specifically speaking on Harold and Jeff, I think those guys should have been in the pro. Especially Jeff. Jeff Simmons was a fucking snub from the get-go. The fact that he wasn't a pro-bowler off the jump.

But Harold, he had a very good season. I hope any, you know, Jay Robby, if you're listening, if any of the people in the higher-ups are listening with the Titans, we got to pay the boy Harold Langer. We got to get that man his bag. But Harold and Jeff, man, I was stoked that they got in. Obviously, Roger, he's played for a long time. This is his first Pro Bowl.

So stoked that they're all in Vegas with Kevin Byard, who I forget how many Pro Bowls he has now. two, two or three. Three, right? Three and one. Two all pros. Yeah, he's been playing well, man. Yeah, all pro as well.

But that was phenomenal. Championship weekend, dude, listen, the Bengals made it. We got to give them their flowers. We got to give them their respect. I'm surprised that they fucking made it too like everybody else. But shout out to the Bengals. Yo, I'm a huge Joe Burrow fan. That dude has got to be the swaggiest player in the game right now.

Him after the game, like, he's just got that vibe about him. You see everybody kind of talking about it. He's got the cool. He's got the shays on. He's got the real chance. that he was talking about. He's just got all this stuff that you're just like, yeah, you kind of just want to pull for that

motherfucker. But in the locker room after the game when he's doing, what is it? Get the get get, get. Look at me. Trying to fucking dance on film. When he does the get-to-get and then he does the little head swirl with that smile and cigar in his mouth, I was like, yo, that is the fucking man right there. But

unfortunately, I'll be pulling for the Rams because I'm rooting for Matt Stafford. I'm rooting for McVeigh, Stafford, the boys that were on the Washington staff, when I played for Washington that's on, it seems like, mostly the offensive side of the ball with McVey out in Los Angeles. And also I think it's dope that O'Dell gets cut.

He's playing well now with the Rams. He's catching his groove. Von Miller got traded. My man was in tears getting traded away from Denver. Goes to a team and goes to a Super Bowl. McVeigh proven a lot of people, proven himself right, ongoing, being all in and going for a Super Bowl this year.

He's traded away a lot of first rounders. Jalen Ramsey, of course, my favorite player in the league. He's on the team. And then Matt Stafford, dude, like I'm just rooting for Matt Stafford because he's, he played so long in Detroit. He got traded to the Rams. It was a huge headliner. Detroit did him right by trading him to the Rams, a team, one of the teams that he wanted to go to with a quarterback, you know, guru coach like McVeigh and just the offensive mind that he has.

And, you know, there were a lot of headlines. Like, Stafford is he, he's an elite level talent. But when it counts, does he win those big games? Like, there's times where he's crumbled in the big moments. But he has all these elite level stats during the. regular season. Like, is he a Super Bowl quarterback? A lot of people arguing yes. A lot of people argue and no. And just the fact that he got traded and in that same year, he is now in the Super Bowl. Like, I'm just pulling for him to win, man, the stuff that him and his wife have

went through. Like, I'm just really pulling for that dude to win. In the future, Joe Burrow, like, I'm a fan of that dude's, all the swag and everything else. We'll be able to root for him for a long time. But I'm pulling for the Rams. I would love to claim the Rams growing up, St. Louis Rams, but everybody knows that I was a Cowboys fan growing up. But I, you know, when the Rams were in it, I would bandwagon like everybody else in the state of Missouri. But that's another reason I want the Rams to win. But that is the Super Bowl. That is my Super Bowl prediction.

I'm saying the Rams. I'm rooting for the Rams. What are you guys saying? JP, you're up first. Bengals are Rams? I'm rocking the unpopular opinion. I'm going with the Bengals. Just because we saw that one dude on Twitter, the former Marine, was it?

Yeah. He put together that super nice note about. the boys what it means to be a boy he wanted the Bengals T-shirt. He was like, man, this beats the world. That was really fucking cool. So that was dope to see. And then I'm pulling for Joe Burrow and

Eli Apple. So I want the Joe and Eli Apple. I don't think it's that unpopular. I think a lot of people want Joe and the Bengals to win. Like you got Zach Taylor. It's their second year. Last year, two years ago they won like two games last year I think it was four. And they go to the Super Bowl and prove, you know, they've

kind of been like, even though they're ranked what, they're seated four, I believe. But everyone's thinking Titans, well, not everybody was talking Titans a lot, but it was either Chiefs or Bills, right? But the Titans were always in the hunt. I mean, they were the one seed. They were fucking awesome.

And then you had the Bengals who were kind of like the dark horse, similar to the Niners trying to make that push to the Super Bowl, which is it sucked that they lost and the boy Kittle lost. Hated seeing Debo in tears after the game on the bench. But I don't think it's that unpopular to root for the Bengals. I think that's somebody that's like the underdog, right? They're kind of the underdog Cinderella story, been winning game, do whatever it takes, and they end up winning the game at the end of the day.

Unpopular on the bus. True. Very unpopular on the bus. We talked about making the T-shirts last week. People were mad. We had the Marine that, you know, said that nice, had that nice message, which I'm sure we're showing it on the YouTube right now. But, yeah, we had a lot of backlash.

And speaking of the shirts now, we were making both shirts for the Rams and the Bengals. and they are fire. You guys saw the Rams on that. I'm picking the Rams, by the way. What did you say? I said I'm taking the Rams, by the way. My fault, Blas, my fault. That's what I need you to cut in.

Like, hey, I forgot to mention the boy Blas. But the shirts, have you guys seen? You guys saw the text I sent this morning, the Rams shirts. Those things are fire, right? Fire. Yeah, the Ramshers are fire. I had to admit, they're fire. Yeah, the Bengals one's still being worked on.

We still need a couple. You'll see him today. It's Wednesday right now. so that we will be finalized today, but we're going to be boosting those on the internet for everybody to go buy and purchase. If you're for the Bengals boys, you can buy them. If you're for the Rams boys, you can buy them.

They're fire shirts. I know, trust me, I know it's fucking hard. Titans fans, I know. Trust me. I say trust me. Like, oh, you guys can fucking trust me. I'm like a snake, too, at the same time. But I understand the pain, man.

Garrett, Jack, they're not even here for the intro. They didn't even want to look at me in the face. They're sick that we're doing these shirts. But we said last week that we would make shirts for the Super Bowl teams. Like it's nothing against the team that beat the Titans and everything else. Like, you know, it's just business. And I think they're fire shirts. And we have fans that are in L.A.

We have fans that are in Ohio. They made it very clear. I had, it was a Marcus Bailey, the linebacker, 51. Marcus Bailey, shout out the boy, Marcus Bailey now. He was in my DM saying, bro, you have fans on this team of busts with the boys. Like, you've got to make the shirts. Like, people in Ohio, you know, they're all about the boys, blah, blah, blah. But we are making the shirts.

So go check the boys. out. What else do we have? What else do we have? Super Bowl ticket giveaway. Taylor, at this point, you will have seen. He posted a video. We are doing a Super Bowl ticket giveaway for the big game. We are taking care of expenses for hotel and airfare. If you need airfare, if you're in L.A. and you win, blah, blah, blah. But we were giving away two Super Bowl tickets. We are giving away airfare or travel expenses. And also included in that package is your hotel state. Well, you'll be staying two nights out in LA close to the stadium. But we are going to be taking care of you guys.

The way to win is we will post it. I don't want to say stuff right now and butcher it. But I believe we are coming up with a hashtag. You're taking a screenshot of being subscribed to the YouTube channel. And you've got to take a screenshot of leaving a comment in this episode, right? Like we're going to say, the Pat MacVee episode, leave a comment, take a screenshot that you're subscribed, take a screenshot that you've left a comment. It's not that hard.

You're going to use a hashtag, I believe, on Twitter to show that you did these things. and that will be your proof. And making the proof is free. There's no downloading an app. There's no buying merch. There's no buying this. There's no buying that. This is a free get in.

So if you're subscribed already, just take a screenshot of you being subscribed, leaving a screenshot of you making a comment in this video in this episode, and you will be entered into win this randomized giveaway. We're going to do the randomized wheel that we did for the giveaways for Black Friday. So yeah, be on the lookout for that.

I think it's already out there. I know I'm getting ahead of myself. but as you're watching, you can trust the boy. Baby update, and then we will get into the Maccfee stuff. I know a lot of people have been asking them to baby update the boy. We just had an appointment, a baby appointment yesterday. We are at 32 weeks, I believe. She's getting the...

It's moving. The certain cramps. I forget what they're called. Like the bridge cramps or something like that. It starts with the B. I don't know why you're supposed to be typing in. Because you're supposed to be typing in. Fucking, you're back there for Alex right now.

You're supposed to be typing on the computer. Not making me look stupid up here. Talking about, look at this man. You must not have been listening at the doctor. I was listening. I know it starts with the beat. But it's crazy, man. Her belly was up and I can actually see the kid, man.

I can see the little girl move around in the stomach. Not just feeling and feeling that kicks of stuff, but you can see her move around. And I'm stoked, man. I can't believe that I'm about to be a father. She's due at the end of March. March 27th is the due date. But mom's good.

The baby is perfectly healthy right now. Everything is smooth sailing, knock on wood. But it's awesome, man. We're in a cool spot. We're in the third trimester. We're getting to the end. And the boy's about to be a father. I think it's going to be a rude awakening.

No more dicking around. No more laying in bed for, you know, minutes at a time, tens of minutes at a time in bed, fucking around on my phone when I get up. I think I'm going to have to wake up early. I'm going to have to get on my David Goggin shit, dude. My jaco willing shit. Get up early and shit like that. But yeah, playtime's over.

But I'm excited, man. You guys are going to help, right? Yeah, for sure. Hey, you'll be able to celebrate Father's Day this year. That's right, man. Oh. Hey, I'm so stoked. I'm stoked, man.

About Father's Day or? No clue what I'm getting into, but about being a dad. Oh, yeah, yeah. Just being a dad. He said about Father's Day. All right, we are going to get into Pat McAfee, dude. We finally had this man on. This was an incredible conversation.

I think Pat was somebody who has obviously been on our buckle list because of all the influence he's had on me on social media personally. I'm always watching what he's doing. Because the blueprints of success are always out there. And you always find people that you kind of latch on to and watch from afar that kind of influence how you move a little bit. Pat is very much somebody in my life that is like that from afar and meeting him in person for the first time and getting to host him on the bus. And I think it was really cool too for Pat to sit down because he's always hosting the masses, dude. he's always hosting, you know, up to 75,000 people watching at a time on Pat McAfee's show. And shout out to the boys out doing the Pat McAfee show because obviously they wouldn't,

he wouldn't be who he is without his team and what all the boys do out there. Specifically, hey, special shout out for Tone Diggs, dude. Special shout out for Tone Diggs. I know you're a fan of whether it's playoff. Willie the boy, what we got going with Bustin with the boys. But it fired me up. It got the blood flowing out. I went from 6 to midnight when Pat told me that you were a huge fan.

But shout out to all the boys out there. I think what you guys do is incredible. But Pat is always entertaining the mass. He's a shitload of people. He's always talking about all the other headlines going on, trying to have all the, you know, not hot takes necessarily, but he's peeling back layers, allowing people a platform to speak and kind of talk about what their truth is.

And he does all this incredible stuff for everybody else. I think it's really cool that he got to sit on the bus, and we got to listen to him talk, talk about a story, his journey tells stories. Dude is hilarious, man. Evan Foxy came, beautiful young man, by the way. Heard's awesome. That jaw line and the hair? The beard?

The barber? Yeah, the barber? They got a barber in house. Hey, that's fucking crazy. That's wild. That's when you know you've made it. But he's got blue contacts. I saw he's got a little bit of fakeage to him.

Kind of like my teeth. You know, I feel like I noticed blue contacts. You didn't have to put that in there. You just throw a subtle shot at him Foxy. He's too perfect, man. He's got to have some kind of... Will was a little insecure when he can't. As I have my fake teeth sitting up here.

I'm just scared of my feet. everything else being too white. Oh, man, I love it. But I think it was really cool that he got to sit up here and tell us a lot of stories, man. And I think it was a really good episode that you guys will enjoy. We got it right from his Wikipedia page because this man does way too many things to try and just rattle off the top. But he's an American businessman. I think he might have put that in his wiki page. Sports analyst, podcaster, professional wrestler, does color commentating for the WWE currently. But he's been on ESPN Fox. He's been on all this stuff, do college game day. All of it. man. He's done color commentary

for football, for college games, for the Mac on Thursdays. Or, you know, those schools, we'll just say those schools on Thursdays that play on Thursdays. But he's done it all. He's been, he had a comedy tour while he was playing. He started his show, I believe, while he was playing. I think he'll lose to that. I don't know for sure if he had a show while he was playing. But he was a comedian, had a comedy tour going on,

very successful. The dude has been successful at everything he's touched. And we dive into a lot of it. We talk about where the seat started, retirement, when it all started to come together. while he was retiring, joining Barstall, breaking up with Barstall, his wife, the phenomenal job she does with fur, the brand,

the dog shot out of the good boys and girls out there. But we dive into a lot of it. You guys are going to enjoy this episode. I believe we're going to run an ad before this episode starts. But without further ado, here is Pat McAfee. Oh, hang on, before the ad, before the ad. Subscribe to the boys.

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I know my Taylor, he called. He's like, bro, I'm so hype for you and I'm so fucking jealous that I don't get to be there because obviously the divisional round. This is Friday, January 21st. Taylor's got a big game to win tomorrow. Taylor's got a big game to win.

And the boy, you know, he's got a big matchup, too, against Hendrickson. Hey, Hendrickson. He's got a motor. Strong too, but, hey, the boy's got a motor. Hey, that's what I've seen. Finesse.

He's an athlete. Yeah, he's an athlete. He can move a little bit. He can bend. Yeah. But. Good wobble. He's rich.

Dude. For a reason. You know, he's fucking good. I miss, I'm bummed. Taylor isn't here, but I'm excited to see you. First thing I said to you, it's great to see you. Then, then, those are the whitest teeth I've ever seen in my entire life. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, really are. In real life, they are. whiter. You look better than I could have ever expected. It's an honor to be here, dude. I'm going to blow smoke for a little bit. I have to. You're kind of like a bucket list guest. And I'll tell you why. When we started this thing, we're sitting on this bus. Like bus with the boys doesn't, isn't in our minds. Podcasting isn't in my mind unless I'm listening to your shit. You're like an, you're an athlete that turned podcaster and obviously we'll get into all the media stuff.

But we are sitting on this bus. You have a small part in that influence of all of this happening because of all the shit that you've done outside of it. And it's just, it's cool as fuck that you're sitting here. Like, you know, Joe Rogan's another big one. Like, all the people you listen to that influence, we were talking about it. And you're like, bro, people were doing it before me and blah, blah, but there's all the blueprints of success out there. But your blueprint has been one that has influenced this bus heavily. And I could not be more stoked that the boys on the fucking bus.

It's an honor. And I remember whenever you guys were kind of. starting and I immediately became a fan. Like, immediately became a fan. You guys, because I don't want to say there is numerous Will Comptons because there isn't, but I've met your type before, you know, the high motor, shredding, I'm not sure it's going on. But you are hysterical.

You are. You're very incredible. You have a great energy and aura about you. And Taylor Luan has the same type of thing. Your guys' energies together is a beautiful thing. So I've been a big time fan. So I'm lucky to be a tiny part in your eyes of this entire thing. it's an honor to be here. I wish it was like 7,000

degrees like it was in the OG, right? I mean, it wasn't the original. You don't wish it was never, man. That's the type of stuff. Back when you had to worry about the generator shutting off and the lights go off and it's like, all right, hang on, this happens at times. We got to go, a train will come by and by all right, everybody wait for a second. Hey, but that's that type of grit that you guys have.

That is, bro. You know, that not... I'm glad people remember. You know, you do got to remind people that we came from the gravel. Like, from the gravel park. My show was in the basement for a while. I mean, we were in the basement. We had actual ghosts, I think, floating around. I mean, There was shit popping off. So this place is really cool.

I got a chance to see it, by the way. You guys are crushing it. I'm incredibly pumped to be here. We're growing a little bit. But, yeah, I was telling Blas right before you guys pulled in. I was like, boys, you got to remember. We were going to do a certain amount of episodes in the summertime. Because we finally got in touch.

We finally scheduled a call and we were FaceTiming and everything. And I was picking your brain. And you were saying, bro, if you're going to do it, you need to do it consistently. The biggest thing in this game is consistency and showing up. up because you're going to have an audience that loves you guys and you want to show up for them each and every week. And so if you're going to do it, don't just do it for the summertime, try to backlog for the season. And that next few weeks, dude, talk to Taylor about it.

We're banging out like 12 pods in one week trying to get this thing in so that way we can last throughout the year, all because of your advice on saying, hey, don't just do the summer. If you're going to do it, do it and do it consistently. Oh, that's dope. Well, that's a real thing. And I think, you know, you guys executing and being able to do that many shows is all. also a talent because a lot of people get, you know, burned out or sick of whatever they're talking about. But I think in the digital media space, and obviously, like you mentioned, there is many people

before me, before us, before this whole thing. Dave, I mean, Big Cat and Eric, obviously, joining once the churning money comes in, and then you look at Rogan and Simmons, and there's people that have been able to make money in the past, but consistency is a big deal. Like being able to show up and just keep showing up, I think is the most important part because in this particular world, people view you as a friend. Right. So if you show up for your friends, like normally they're going to be better for you.

And that's like something I've always kind of taken it. I don't think like our crew is that talented, but we'll fucking work, you know? No, no. Don't keep on the boys, back. Foxy's incredibly talented. I mean, you guys got these awesome cameras. We got an iPhone rolling in this thing.

That's what Foxy uses. And shout out to Tim Cook, you know what I mean? And Steve doing their thing. But I just think like just showing up is a big part of this entire thing. And I'm thankful you guys did. Who was your, so I'm sitting there talking about how you influenced our show. Who were people that kind of influenced you to start taking that,

started picking up that curiosity and being like, yo, I want to go this route of, I don't even know if you thought about media at the time or just like humor and just being you in front of everybody. So I think like in locker rooms I was always pretty good. You know, and I think I played soccer most of my life. Then I got into football, like my junior year of high school, but I always got along with basically everybody.

Like, I was always pretty okay. And in Pittsburgh, we always played football. So I played football growing up. I knew football, but I didn't play organized football. I played soccer. I was supposed to make it. Then once I got in the football community, it was interesting. Like, I got a chance to experience a whole different group of humans.

When I went to West Virginia, I mean, we had some dogs on our team. I mean, we have guys still in jail. We had guys that were going to jail. And they were all, like, my friends and, like, family. And I remember late nights, like, in living rooms. after the party. Like, it was, it normally ended with me telling stories with like a lot of my guys, like my teammates, and we either smoking something or just trying to pass out. And that kind, that kind of rolled into like the locker room where I would just, and I was always very

comfortable speaking with people. And I always had a pretty good memory about things that happened. In my recollection of stories of things and the way I would tell them was always a big hit, no matter if somebody was from Compton or if they're from Bel Air, like there seemed like there was always a group of people that I could talk to. So I never really thought I was going to get into the media world, but I always thought like, okay, I do seem to get along with most people. So that's a cool thing. And then when I got arrested, you know, when I got arrested, I got buried.

I mean, they aired my mugshot on local television, Indianapolis, like 150 times. It was the by week. So I went from nobody knowing who the fuck I was to getting arrested and everybody in Indianapolis knowing who I was. I went to Walmart that night with my dad because my dad drove out. hung up on me while I was in jail. He got your one phone call. I called my dad. He hung up on me because he didn't want to pay for more minutes is what he said. He drove out and I was suspended for a week. We go to like Walmart or somewhere to like pick up some stuff and it was like one of the first times I was recognized

in Indianapolis. It was like you're the swim. Like that's what I was kind of known. So I had to get on Twitter basically to like kind of change the narrative and Twitter was like it was like a fish to water like Twitter is where I'm supposed to be. So I would interact with everybody. I would start doing my thing and it just kind of grew and grew and grew. And then I got an opportunity to get on some microphones with like the Bob and Tom show. And then, you know, I found Big Cat. I was a big fan of Big Cat. I was a stand-up comedy special. I sent him an actual DVD. I was like, hey, Big Cat, let me know if you like this or not. And he was like, yeah, nobody's ever sent me a DVD in like 20 years, but like this is the whole thing. So it just kind of all, it just seems like it all just kind of fell

into place, but it was never like the plan. Right. When did the, when was the seed planted for, because obviously you had, and we can dive into the stories, too, of the, whether the falling out with the GM, I was kind of reading up on some stuff that you had like that. That dude did not like me. You did not find me comical. You took to Twitter as well on the GM, right? That was after you fired. So I didn't, I think it's bad ball if you bring negative attention to the team,

like while the team is in season. Like, I never did media. When I was in the season and I would tweet or do anything, it was never like that would make the team look bad or, like, that was just never my thing. Like, first of all, I'm the fucking punter. So why am I, I should not say anything about anything that could get anybody into trouble. But whenever he came to Indianapolis, I was already a pretty well-known.

I think I was like number two jersey seller at the time whenever he came in. I'd already done a comedy tour. People had already- And that's from comedy and Twitter. It's all from my Twitter. Yeah, it's all from my Twitter account. Yeah. And then Bob and Tom helped me out a lot because they're a big-time local show.

And then they were a national show as well. But locally, they knew me from there. So whenever he got to the team, I was a pretty well-known person. And I don't necessarily think he dreamt in his life when he becomes a general manager. Like, oh, the punter is going to be somebody that is going to have a voice and be like somebody that the city likes. So he didn't find me funny. We had interesting run-ins he and I. But I feel like we always kept a very professional.

But that was like I had three surgeries and four years on my knees. My last year, I played with a dislocated kneecap for like the last eight weeks. What kind of surgeries are you getting? So, yeah, I had, you know, dislocated Patela, they had to move my Patella back into place and then build it back up and obviously, like, meniscus, and then some tears and some shit. Yeah, it's just all the little minuscule shit, you know. But it was just a lot of things that were just kind of pointing me in the direction, I think, like, oh, it's time to retire. You know, like, this guy unlike me. He got fired.

I put out a tweet about it. That did well. Then, you know, like, I was on a team longer than him, but I had already made up the decision that I was going to retire. Chris Ballard, you know, I don't think he wanted me to retire. And I was like, Chris, I'm already checked out of this thing. Man, you do not want me on the team right now. I'm going to go full gore here. So, yeah, just everything.

I'm a big, like, listen to the universe guy. And it felt like the universe was telling me it's time to go. I feel like it's probably a lot more detailed than that back in the day. If you have a better relationship with the GM, do you feel like, were you in the mental headspace of, like, you wanting to play ball so badly that you would have probably continued to play football and went through the knee surgeries? Or was it more of the...

route, you had curiosity of stuff off the field, just because I'm asking from a place of knowing what my type of story is as well. So like, I feel like every, and you had meetings and shit you had to go to, right? Right. What do you mean meetings? Like during the day. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I forgot. I'm like wasting away. I do. Yeah, you guys get to fucking trust waste, building board games and shit. I didn't do any of that. Like, I didn't play video. Ping pong. See, no, I played a lot of cornoles. So I saw your little boards back there. I got pretty fucking good. Like, I became I mean, I became a guy.

Like pretty good because me and Overton would play. Me and Matt Overton would play for like three hours because we had nothing else to do. And I would literally get to the point at this point where I was already doing stand-up comedy tours. I had a merch company. I was doing podcasts. And then I was just for six months out of the year.

I'd kick on Sunday. I'd love that. I love being a part of a team. I was very lucky to be part of the NFL. I love the NFL. But I'd just be sitting there with like thoughts and ideas all day, just sitting there like, oh, God, like I... So it was just like so many things.

You know, like, saying it's more detailed than that, I guess. But I'm like, like, everything just seemed to line up. It was like, yeah, it's time to move on. Now, if I would have failed, I mean, we're talking about a much different story. I mean, retiring after making a pro bowl and being shot up. Oh, buddy. You had, what, two years left on your deal? Yeah. And you could have, you know, you would have re-uped obvious.

I mean, you're what, 34? Yeah. I retired when I was 29. Yeah. Could have went a little longer. Vin and Terry was kicking when he was 44 or something like that. He was my teammate. Yeah, you could probably still be kicking now.

I asked to, so many times. I'm like, how are you still? You know, like that competitive stamina, I have a lot of respect for it. Because punning is, okay, so I'm going to go on the field when the offense fails. All right, so at home games, I'm getting booed when I come on the field. Yeah. And then at away games, I'm getting cheered for. And if we're down, 21, there ain't a goddamn thing I could do, but I'm just sitting there watching.

Like, hey, let's go, boys. Like, let's get back in this because if we lose this game, the next four days are going to be miserable. Like, everybody's miserable when you lose. Oh, bro, yeah. It got to, there was just so many things, you know, so I don't want to point to one thing. Like, the GM not liking me is definitely a part of the entire cake of like get me out of here. The days being Groundhogs Day with not a lot to do and me having like 7,000 ideas like, oh, I want to do this.

I think I should do this. We think we should do this. Oh, but I'm here and I'm punning for period, 15 minutes. And then I got to wait and do this whole thing. It was just, it felt like the universe was telling me like, hey, let's go and do this thing. I really, I really jive with when you're talking. talking about being in the building and your mind just constantly. Like last year, you know, I'm not on the Titans now.

But when I was on the Titans, I'm sitting there in meetings and I'm like checking my phone on the side, making sure blogs are going out or under the hoods. And in my head, like, I have my notes that I'm taking for like all the linebacker stuff, all defensive stuff, all that kind of stuff. But when I'm getting bored, I flip to the back of my notebook and I'm doing all my journaling for like busts with the boys. Should we do this? Should we do that?

And the NFL doesn't deserve that either, right? Correct. Yeah, like I had that going on too. Like, somebody deserves this job that this is a dream job for somebody. Right. Like, there's only 32 punters in a league. I do not want this to be my full focus. And then we think the NFL deserves like your full focus, you know?

Like, I'll take a paycheck, but also my teammates deserve me to be fully invested. You know, that's probably you too. I also think a young version of yourself wants that too, because me, I'll get, when I'm doing it, if I get kind of let down about doing it, I'm thinking about how much. much I wanted to play ball when I was the undrafted cat, the guy who, you know, was ready to die on the football field. Yeah. Around all the boys.

Like, if I could have died that death, that's the most honorable death you could have had, right? Back when you're brainwashing to thinking, I want to, you know. That funeral would have been dope, though. Yeah, die young, die hero, bro. Hey, listen, this dude died a fucking hero. Yeah. Did you see him bust the wedge this motherfucker? Tour d'all and caffeine just running through you.

It's all you wanted to do. So when I'm, like, doing that stuff, I'm like, man, I'm not. I'm not pouring into this the same way I used to, and I feel like that's bothered me, you know, in times where I do that. It's a little conflicting because I watch like Adam Vittieri, and he has, I don't take some like three and a half hours just a kick on like a Wednesday, you know, his warm-up routine to get his whole body right. And he's like fully committed.

He has people, body gurus coming in at night that are just beating the shit out of his body for like three hours. I'm going home, smoking so much, just chilling, having the time of my life. Getting in the pantry at nighttime. I wonder what I'm going on. I'm going on here. You know, and then I go in, and it's just like, all right, it's obvious that I love the game. I love my teammates. But I don't know if this is necessarily the right thing for me anymore.

Yeah, but it's hard to cut free from the, I mean, that guarantee paycheck there is pretty sweet. Paychecks are nice. Yeah. And just, I mean, it's what you've done since, you said, junior in high school. I mean, and it's what we've all done our whole lives, right? Like, you go, you prepare, for me, I got into the league of 23, but you prepare 23 years, obviously, you started like, I started like second grade.

But 23 years of just being like, I want to be in NFL. Helmet, Full contact football in your life? Like, we started helmet in fourth grade. Okay. I was a savage. We won't get into that. We only got. Roddow.

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. But, uh, you know we're fucking head-hunting. Oh, bro. And I was running back. So AJ, AJ has this line. He's like, uh, you know, it feels like I was putting a position where it's killer be killed, so fucking everybody's got to die, I guess.

That's basically. That's what AJ says. That's how you guys actually think. Like, that is actually how that's awesome. But you spent 23 years thinking I want to be an NFL player and like this dream of being an NFL player. And then you finally have it. And you're in it for so long. And like you said, like I'm looking at dudes who spent so much time on their body and stuff that I knew like, man, I was I was obsessed with doing this stuff.

And I'm looking at them now thinking, like, man, there's just got to be more to it than this. Life. Especially when you're older. Like when you're watching a Venetary or older vets and you're just like, man, they're still so super into it. Like, what is, how's that mental going to look when they're transitioning out of it and everything else? I feel like I look at, you know, and I'm not like talking down about it or anything, but the mental that I've been in, you just see how much more guys care about it. And I'm like, damn, I appreciate it. And I want to appreciate all these last moments I get.

Yeah. But, you know, I'm not the same kind of. Yeah, and I think it's natural for that to happen, I think, you know, for some people. But some of those OG motherfuckers, they're just like, hey, we're going to run through the wheels fall off, like actually. And I'm like, well, what happens? You scrape me off the fucking feet. What happens when the wheels fall off? I'll figure it out when I get there.

It's like, I think that's going to be a big figure it out whenever you get there. But, yeah, it's a... I think you know that now just because of the shit that you've been doing since playing ball, like... So much more busy now. Yeah. It's unbelievable. And being an entrepreneur like yourself, just the operation that actually goes into it, I think was has been eye-opening for me, even with the...

Just having one podcast show a week, like Buston with the Boys, and, like, having a team of five guys. You got a good team here. Good mustache on Cuzz's there. Yeah. Got a good squad back there. I believe old Cousie back there's got his own little business, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alex Lago, man. Yeah. We're checking you guys out. Oh, hey, he's fired up about... Let's give a round of applause for Alex Lagos, man. Oh, boy, Alex? You know Derek Murphy, too, who just grafted us and shoots him at you guys a lot, too. I don't know him, but, yes, I have seen him on the internet.

He's a talented. dude, right? Dude, he loves making that stuff for the boys, man. He's good. He's fired up when I shared that one. He's really talented. Yeah, and I shared it too. I knew it was his work.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was good work by him. I was going to wait for you, though. Wait for me on what? To share it. Oh, to share it. Yeah, and then I was like, I was not one of my guys. I was waiting for you to share it.

And I think I told you like, hey, I'll post this immediately after the show. I invited him to be a collaborator and didn't tell him or nothing. I'm just going to invite him. Just fuck it. Like, see if he sees it. In the middle of the show, too, this motherfucker's like, hey, I'm in the middle of something, dude. I understand you got your own life. He's like, hey, I got you right after this show's over.

I got it. Yeah, but it was, you got a good squad down here. And I think that's a big deal, too. I got very lucky. And, like, it's an honor for you to say, like, hey, you're a piece of our whole thought there because I'm doing a lot of these interviews with these motherfuckers that have no idea what we do, right? These old school media folks. Yeah.

And especially after the Fandold deal was announced, there's a lot of people that are interested, right? Like a $120 million man. Hey, let's go, a fucking runner. That's only one company and one partner, but... I don't know. It's stupid. It's too much money. It's way too much money.

But trying to chit-chat with people that are from the old school media world, you know, who just are like, oh, yeah, we'll just go to the internet. Like, we'll just go to the internet. We'll start doing it. It's like, okay. Yeah, you'll just go to the internet. I've seen, you know, I take... I don't...

I get along with most people, like almost everybody. And I want to see everybody make a billion. Like, I would like to see this place turn into a fucking billion-dollar operation. Like, I hope so, though. I want to see Barstool go and take over and get, like, writes to games and, like, really go. Like, I want to see everybody have succeed who works hard. Like, I enjoy seeing people work hard. Like, I enjoy it.

And that's what the internet is. It's like, hey, you got to fucking work. And I think, like, I was. At all times, too. You're always, the internet doesn't fucking stop, right? And if, for me, I go live every day, you do your thing a little bit differently and everybody has their own style. I have to know, like, I have to know basically what pisses everybody off at all. at all times, right?

Right. Because I have to know what pisses off the far left. I have to know what pisses off the far right. I have to know what fan bases are going to get mad about what. I want to know whose distress feels disrespected. Like the Titans fan base is the most we are disrespected in the league fan base on earth. So anytime I talk about the Titans, I have to remind people like, hey, this team feels as if they're getting

fucked in the conversation piece about everything. Like, that's just like kind of my style. So I live on my phone. I'm on my phone full time trying to learn. just trying to figure things out. But if you don't have a team of people around you that can, like, help you get there, these old school media people are like, you're the new blueprint, and we're going to see a lot more people do what you do.

And I'm like, okay, yeah, I think so. They're going to have to hit a home run with the people that they have working around them. Like Foxy's one of the best editors I've ever seen in my entire life, and he can do something in 10 minutes where it's like editing in the past takes, like, a big long time. And it's like sometimes you have to give up what your dream of what something looks like just to get something out in time. And it's just like, it's a different game.

And I think you've got to get real lucky with the people around you, too. 100%. So how do you guys all find each other come about? Aren't they like longtime friends? Some of them, yeah. So like Diggs grew up on the same street as me. He loves the boy. Hey, yeah.

Shout out all the boys, too, by the way. Yeah, yeah. High, Boston, Tone, Lord Zidi. Diggs. AJ. Hey, can we get an AJ Chan going? AJ. Hey, Jay.

Hey, Jay. Hey, Jay. AJ, AJ. You got to add Hawk in there. Yeah, you got to add Hawk in there because there's a lot of AJ's. There's only one motherfuck. He started. You started. AJ Hawk.

AJ Hawk. AJ Hawk. AJ Hawk. He's good. Hey, that boy, get the last one in there. No, don't edit that. Hey, that's good in an arena, too, you know, to be that the last one who's screaming. I do these Smackdown shows every Friday night and there's always like two to three that are like,

yeah. I'm going to get that little bonus yelling at the end. AJ's awesome. Yeah. AJ and I, we never played on the same team together. I was supposed to go on the Hotcast while I was playing. He had followed me on Twitter. So I think him and Aaron found me on Twitter at one point

because I was pretty active on Twitter. Nobody really knew about me. I didn't do any media. ESPN, NFL, nobody was really like, I remember back in a day seeing like Biz, who I love. I followed Biz for a long time. I fucking love his mustache right now. Working with Wayno.

I mean, he is. He's the fucking man, bro. I fucking love Biz. But Biz was in the run there back in the day. like the Twitter, the professional athlete Twitter account, right? Right. And then Ocho was doing his thing in Cincinnati where he was doing his whole thing. And I thought I had a pretty good Twitter account.

Like I thought my tweets were pretty solid, like, hey, but wasn't getting a lot of, you know, I wasn't getting a lot of pub. It was kind of just like an organic grow, which I enjoyed. Yeah. And once guys around the NFL started following me, I was like, okay, so people were starting to get it. And like, Aaron followed me one day out of nowhere. And I'm like, Aaron fucking Rogers follows me.

Like, I walked into the locker room. I'm like, boys. Bring it in. Boys, am I the fucking... Am I the guy? I mean, it's not like he follows 100,000 people either. So, like, I remember back in the day where I would get, like, I'd get, like, 100 followers.

I was, like, super pumped. Like, because back in the day, you could see, like, every single follower you'd get. And I'd be on there. And for 27 months, I wasn't able to drink after my public intoxication because I went into the substance of abuse program where I was getting drug tested eight times a month

for 27 months, like 216 tests I took. And I couldn't have any alcohol in my system, nothing. I had to stop everything cold turkey, and I smoked now. I mean, I was a smoker and I was quite a drinker. So I had to stop everything, basically. And all my friends that I hung out with, a couple of the dudes that are working with me now, like we were partiers. Like, that's what we did.

And we would go. And I was normally one of the drivers of the going. So whenever you have to stop that immediately and all your friends are still going out, I got a little, you know, isolated because I went out with them one time. I was like, I'll just drink water. And I was like, oh, I'm the fucking worst. I need to get out of here. I am bringing everybody down.

So I just kind of invested in Twitter almost. Like, I was just on Twitter. I'd answer everybody that tweeted me. I'd basically comment on everything. And then once I see, like, people follow me, I'm like, holy shit, be cool, be cool, be cool. And like, when Aaron followed me, I was like, don't follow him back yet. Like, wait. You know, like, wait until, like, tomorrow.

And, like, AJ followed me. And, like, J.J. Watt followed me. Like, people around the NFL started following me. I'm like, oh, this is pretty cool. At least they're recognizing somehow. And I never forget, AJ invited me to be on the Hockcast. And he was playing. I looked that up last night.

He was playing at the Bengals. I think he was playing at the Bengals. And he invited me. I'm like, yeah, cool, man. I'm excited. Like, I'm pumped because he went to Centerville High School, which is where my holder from college went. So he's from Ohio.

We all know what a white Ohio guy is like. Yeah, Brable. Yeah, exactly. We all know. They're all the same. Yeah. Every Ohio person is the exact same. So I knew we'd probably get along or whatever.

And we had set up for me to do a show, and he got cut the, the, he got cut either the day we were supposed to do it or whatever. So we just didn't talk to each other. Like, I was like, oh, well, the guy got cut. Like, probably not the right day to do the interview or whatever. We didn't know each other at the time. Yeah. We didn't reconnect until like two years later.

And we, it was at the Barstow Tailgate Show at Ohio State. And it was our first show. We were staying at some frat. And AJ was supposed to come on. He was the local guest for the Barstall Tailgate show. And we hit it off pretty quickly. I mean, we had quite a day. And then we got a chance to do Laces Out podcast with Jerry Thor.

And every time we get on a microphone, it's pretty good because he is just, he's Ohio. He's completely Ohio. He's a smart ass. He's a toxic. He's hilarious, bro. Super toxic. Super toxic. So, like, that's, I met him on Twitter. The boys came through an internship announcement whenever I retired for Barstool.

Everybody basically, other than Nick. So what started was you and AJ? Or you had something kind of going on. No, I was doing shit by myself. And then, like, when I retired, I was going to build my own app. So I was going to build my own app And I was just going to charge like a buck a month And I was just going to put out podcast and shit

I'm like, ah, this is cool And then I'll go on tour Because I'd already done like two tours I think I already had like 13 shows Under my belt in theaters Where I would rent the theaters and sell the tickets myself So like I already knew the business side of it pretty good And I was like ah fuck it I'm just going to go do that or whatever

And all my friends were like super pumped for me Like a lot of people are questioned Like you're going to leave the NFL to go do this I'm like yeah I think so And they're like well if it doesn't work You just kick I guess I guess I'm like yeah We'll see how it goes

and that's when Dave and Erica found out about it through Big Cat. They said, hey, why don't you join us? And I was very lucky to learn. And I think I told you that before you were getting into thing. Like learning from the Barstool brand about like what works, what doesn't work, the amount of time you got to put in, like, how you should treat your partners and advertisers and like how you should, you know, CPAs and all this shit. Like I learned all that from the bar.

So, like, I got really... We referred to him as a business university. Yeah, Ben, you were talking. Yeah, yeah. Pat mentored, Pat was mentoring me when we were going through all that stuff with Barstool and everything else. And you referred to him. Yeah. You said, I mean, you said a lot of good stuff.

I was, you know, surprised, given that you guys had broke up, but I didn't know much about it. Yeah, it was just like business stuff, you know? Like, it was, like, I think personally, I don't know. No, I just because we're in Indiana. So, like, I didn't want to move to New York. So, we were in Indiana. And we would go, we didn't really know it. We didn't really know everybody.

We didn't really know everybody. Like, we go over with chat with a couple people. Like, that's why I fucking love Caleb. Like, I think Caleb is one of the smartest, most brilliant, hilarious individuals of all time. And every time we went to New York, he was like super dope and super cool to us. Yeah. Rone as well, because he was normally with him over there.

And it's like, and Buddha Ben, who is no longer, like, the people we go over there and chat with, like, were super cool with us. But not everybody was like, because at that time, it was the old office. I think everybody was trying to make it. It was a rocket ship at that time. They just got the turn-in investment, and we were very lucky to be there at that time. But shit was flying. I mean, it was going very quick, and we're 700 miles away or whatever the fuck it is.

Just, that's why I don't think, I don't know. And I don't know how everybody feels over there, but, like, I got nothing but respect for the people over there. It was just like some business stuff that was happening that's probably going to take place whenever your five states over, just with how quick everything is. Yeah. I finally got to the point. I was like, I've already run my own business before I retired. I didn't retire. to like kind of guess on what's going to happen.

I'd rather just kind of do it myself here and see if we can go. And it's, you know, the guys from day one are still there, basically. Those are still my guys. Basically everyone, we've only added a couple people. A graphic designer. Dirty, who's fucking awesome.

He's been adding into the mix. That's about it. So what number was everybody coming in? Like, Tone, Diggs. Tone quit his job the day I retired. It joins you. He was with you since day one. Yeah.

That's fucking awesome. He was drunk whenever he did it. We got to have phone Diggs on this motherfucker. That was Super Bowl week. Tone is awesome. Tone grew up on my street. He grew up at the top of the hill, you know, the Italians. Oh.

Italian, they did. Yeah, Coach Diggs did okay up there. Pizza pie. Yeah, but he and I had chatted. He's always been hilarious. Like, Tone has always been a very hilarious human being. Yeah. He's a good salesman, though.

So he was selling, like, credit cards and all this shit back in Pittsburgh, and he was doing very well or whatever. But whenever I told him, like, I'm thinking about, retiring in doing this, whether I'm going to do it myself or at that point I hadn't figured out whether or not I was going to go with bar store or what I was going to do. And as the whole thing goes, you tell me, dude, I'll quit. I'll come on, quit. I'll do it.

I'm like, all right, tone, all right, I bet or whatever. And then the night I retired on Comedy Central or whatever, he screenshoted the email he sent. And he said, I quit. He just, he said, I quit. And he came out and enjoyed it. It was like, that was awesome. And my other friend, Nick Marado, the other Paison. I've been friends with him since high school.

He didn't grow up on the same street. He grew up on the other side of town. But he, same thing. He was like, if you do it, I'll quit or whatever. And then that night, they were like, all right, fuck it. We quit. Let's go ahead and do this. The night you retired.

Yeah. Fuck, man. And everybody else you said, you were saying you found through like internships. Yeah. Whenever we made the announcement for the first batch of interns, they all came through. We had a lot of people. Too many people. Too many people.

I'm not good. I'm not good at that. At what? Like, I'm so. impressed with what Barstle is done because of how big they got with how many fucking people they have. Right. And all these other companies, as soon as they get money, you see them just start like adding and adding and adding and adding and adding people. And I guess that makes you bigger. So people think you're worth more. Like I'm not saying Barstow hasn't quadrupled. I'm talking about

other companies that just add people just to add people. And then at what point do, you know, does, I don't know, for me, I'm better with a, I can't do a lot of people. I need a smaller group that's Like, hey, I'm not, I don't know. I just, I'm not great at people, like, if they're not all in, you know? Like, so, like, it's naturally going to happen that there's going to be beefs and clicks whenever there's a lot of people. And it's like, I don't like fucking, like, I don't fucking like that. You just like sticking with your squad.

Yeah, like, hey, we're, we're kind of all in here. We're like-minded. So, yeah, that's kind of all the same people from day one. We lost a couple of people, some very talented people. I wish I would have been able to make it work better. Like, I wish I would have been better at, like, making them a better part of the the show, like, because I can control that, you know, because it's basically me talking. So, like, if Connor, who's one of the funniest fucking people I've ever encountered in my

entire life, if he doesn't have a good week, it's probably my fault because I didn't give him an opportunity to do it. So, like, there's people that have been with us in the past who are either at Barstall now or doing their own thing where I do think about, like, I think I probably could have got them in a much better position without us. If that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Yeah.

How is your relationship with Dave changed since all of that went down? Like, was it one of those relationships where it was like Rocky when it all went down? And then through time, everybody's just kind of like, you know what, bygones be bygones. We're boys. I got nothing but love for them. And I might be just oblivious to this. But I think me and Dave have always been cool. I honestly, I don't.

Even through the breakup? I think so, yeah. I mean, I'm making that, I'm making up that energy because I, it's just, I've just scanned some of the stuff. No, I think he understood, like, what happened. There was a couple, because I was in a rev share, right? So, like, if a deal gets pulled out of my office for the New York office, like, that's direct money pulled out of our office. So it wasn't like a team effort rev share.

It was like, if you pulled something and then they might have pulled something that was bigger, it would overshadow yours, and then you would lose yours? No, it was like whatever we generated, it was just a rev share, like classic internet, you know? whatever our office generates if we get, you know, people's sponsors that want to come on, if our podcast get sponsors and we make money, it's a rev share, where they're guaranteeing a certain amount of money. So there was some new people that were added, I think, in the business side of things that maybe didn't understand the deal or know the deal or have any clue who I am.

I'm a punner in Indiana, these salespeople who are just added to the company or in New York City. Comedian, retired, you pretty, you know. No, I was a fucking, it makes no sense why I'm popular. It makes no sense at all. None. And I couldn't even imagine being a salesperson that just got hired to Barstool that is thinking to themselves,

okay, I'm going to sell. Am I going to sell like maybe the smartest, funniest person ever exists, PFT commenter or am I going to go try to sell this punner in Indiana that I've never met before? So I think stuff like that was starting to happen. And then we would have a deal and then for some reason

it would be a confusion. It would be gone all of a sudden. I'm like, whoa, like this is directly my money now that our company is like earning or whatever. So I think it was just things that were lost in translation. And whenever I explained that to Dave, I think he understood that. Then there was obviously the bubbly gang situation, which is another thing about being

five states over. That is a little bit interesting because there was Lewis Roberts, who is one of the most interesting people of all the time. And he was with the first salesman, I think, depending upon, I don't know. This is the story I've heard. So I think it's true. One of the first salesmen for Barstles Sports ever, like from Philadelphia, went up there to sell for Dave.

And after our first week at Barstall, we did our podcast. It did well. And then the next week we had no ads. And I had known the business that we're in a rev share. So I'm like, Dave, how do we have no ads for this thing? Like, I thought that's what this whole thing was. Yeah. So he assigned and Dave was like, you're right.

And by the way, Dave did us. Dave made a deal like within two minutes or whatever. That's what Dave is unbelievable at. And I think that's why the sphere of the Barstall University is a real thing. He assigned Lewis to us, though, to be our sales guy. He's like, this is my sales guy. Like, you can tell him to go fuck himself too if you want to. Like, if something comes through or they say you, they want you to say something or whatever,

he's a good guy. So Lewis became one of the only people we talked to at the off. Like, literally one of the only humans we talked to on a day-to-day basis. So Lewis, I get, he started a rosé company. And he asked me if I wanted to invest in it. And I was like, cool, I'll invest in it. Who's all investing in it? And he told me, I have, you know, and he said Barstall was investing in it.

Dave was investing in it. Some other people were investing in it. do you want to be part of it? I'm like, yeah, this is why I retired. Like, yeah, I would like to get into companies. I'd like to do this. Like, yeah, this is fucking awesome. Here we go. And then when we launched it, I was, Dave was not invested in it, I guess. And Barstle was not invested in it at all. And I'm like, holy shit. And Dave was like, I have to fire you.

And I'm like, you're firing? What do you have to fire me for? He was like, well, you're directly trying to undercut me or something like. I'm like, Dave, I had no fucking idea. I literally asked if you were involved in this like two, three times. and he was you know he and I have always been able to I think we've been able to chat like we've always been able to talk I think we have I don't know I have the utmost respect for the business he's been able to build and the way he's gone about doing it and his work ethic is fucking stupid too so I think we've always had respect for each other I think I'm not arm's and sure he would have to ask him but I think he uh I think he said on one of his shows that you guys had were in talks for a second potentially with the sports book before you went obviously your your huge deal what did you guys ever talk about the barso sports book and bringing, getting you back in some capacity, not back, but you guys partnering up. Oh, yeah.

So there was a show, too. Like, towards the end of there, I, you know, I thought me and Dave, if we had a show together would do well. Like, I thought it would be pretty big. And at that point, Sirius, too, was trying to figure out what they were trying to do. And there was a barstool radio deal. And Sirius only had one person that were paying in Howard. Right.

It was like, how long is Howard going to work? So, like, from a business side, it's like, you know, if me and Dave were to do a show, I think we could potentially, I think it would, would do well. And then one thing, I don't know, it didn't end up working, right? We're supposed to do business together. And then we do that Barstall tailgate show, and we had good chemistry together. Like, literally, I thought it was like a good show.

And I enjoyed being around him. Like, I enjoyed him as a human. Yeah. He is fucking hilarious. Like, what a ridiculously hilarious human. Yeah. We were in Iowa, and he said that the pizza at the gas station was too bacony or something like that. Okay.

So Trent's dad came in the next morning and like basically asked Trent why he's working for this man who thinks that something can be too bacony in the middle of Iowa or whatever and like Dave's reaction to all those things was cool was it Casey's? Yeah that's good pizza now.

Well it's too bacon Come on now. I mean they're having it a little bit too bacon He said gas station Iowa I'm starting to put it together and we were talking about Casey's here boys? Yeah but that was like a moment where like I it's just I have a lot of respect for him and I mean I didn't sell my company to Fandul I'm very thankful for her

Vendell partnership. They let us, you know, they let us do a lot. Like, it's really cool. And we can pitch ideas and they can tell us yes or no. But ultimately, they don't own us. So, like, we are still trying to win. And they are still trying to win. Yeah.

You know, so it's a cool relationship. It's been a lot of fun. But it's a three, four-year deal. Vandal, who knows what the future looks like for anybody in this space. I think there's going to be acquisitions. Wild Wild West right now in the- There's so much money. I think there's going to be acquisitions, though.

know, let alone the platforms that are coming into play. I mean, Amazon's got the NFL rights. They have so much money. What are they going to want to do? Right. You know, so who knows? Who knows what the future looks like. Oh, I know.

We had a fan question. This is appropriate from Elliot Hooper. Dave said he taught Pat everything he knows about gambling. Is this true? And Dave has been. There's been a clip that's one around. I've seen it recently too. He's like, I taught that man everything about gambling.

So that was the first, that Barstow Tailgate show. we were traveling around and he was gambling. And I had never gambled before on games. I grew up around Italians, so I knew that it happened. But I didn't know who or why. We would pick those college games. And I would just pick the teams just because of the names or how I wanted to say the name. Like, yeah.

I was like, how do I want to, I knew nothing. I have no idea why any of these teams will win or how they won't. But Dave was like winning there, you know, he was winning. And I'm like, okay, cool. Yeah, I want to bet alongside you. Like this will be my first experience. you know, because watching him like either sweated or experience, I'm like, yeah, I would like to feel that about a game that I do not care about.

You know, like I would, I like, you know, so I was like, go ahead and I'll just ride alongside you. He's like, all right, cool, you got it. So he called his bookie to say, hey, I'd like to double my max, which I am now now know as a fully grown gambling adult is a wildly aggressive move. I mean, that is, that's not good. at all to do that. And then he told me the amount of money it was. And I was like, holy shit, I am not, are you kidding me? And he was like, how much are we talking? It was a lot. It was a lot. How much we talking? It was a lot of money. It was a good amount of money. And I was like,

I can't, no way, I can't do that. He was like, well, what are you going to do? And I was like, I'll do, like, I forget it. I forget, I said like a half or whatever. So then he was doing 150% then because it's max now and I was picking up either like the last 50%. So he, he, definitely up to the amount of money he was betting because I asked him to do so. And there was no way I could have fathomed he was gambling the amount of money. I mean, there was no way. And it was like, I can't do that. I am so sorry.

I felt so bad. I still feel bad about that. I mean, now he owns a book. So, I mean, he's got to, he's definitely okay. He's talking about losing like $500,000 on certain, like during a bet before. We were watching some. Who gives a fuck game? I remember.

And we were in this. It was maybe like a frat house. No, it was just a house, I think, in Virginia Tech. And they had these TVs set up. It was hilarious. It was, they had these wires going in from everywhere, and the Wi-Fi. It was a college house.

So these games were coming and going. And these were two teams that I, I mean, I couldn't even tell you their names right now. I don't even think I knew their names when they were playing. He had a grotesque amount of money on these things. And he was getting actually upset. I'm like, you don't even know that kid's fucking name. Like, who knows what that kid did last night? That kid's playing it.

Who gives a fuck university? I mean, there's reasons. That kid could have been drunk for the last 72 hours. That kid could have done any of these things. And to have all that money riding on it, I was just so fascinated by it. But yeah, he is, I mean, he has to be one of the most legendary massive gamblers

in the history of gambling. And it is partially my fault. And I do, I do feel very, very bad about that. I do. I have apologized to him numerous times about it, too. So is he the one responsible for teaching you how to gamble? I mean, he got me in. into it. At this point, though, I've found my own

couple groups. You know, I've found my own things that, but yeah, I mean, he was my first real mentor. He was my first baptism, I'll say, into sports gambling and mentor, yeah, that would be a good one too. And we won. I mean,

he was winning there for a bit. But I don't know how he's putting that much money on these kids that I ain't ever heard of. And we never heard from him again. We never heard from these kids again. Right now, we have no idea where those kids are. Those kids are selling, something somewhere. And he had...

The amount of money he had on these kids was just mind-blowing. But yeah, it was awesome. It was cool. And, you know, now he's a book. That's insane thing. I know.

That really is. It's been incredible, like being with them, what has it been now? Two years? You need water? You want water? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He knows that. So it's probably... Hey, hey, trust me. You're sitting there talking and I kind of see the radio. I'm like, man, how fucking high is Pat right now? All day, every day, man. Mostly. I mean, you have to be.

You know, you have to be. I enjoy that. I enjoy the... marijuana. You an edible guy or what? Yeah, whatever, yeah. Just whatever. Yeah, I'm hoping to get into that business pretty good. Are you in that business? I'm going to try to. I enjoy doing that type of stuff. I hope so.

You probably already know, you know, you probably got some boys already in business, so you're probably taking care of. No, so that's the thing. Like, I travel for Smackdown so much. So whenever we go to a state where it's legal, I'll head directly. I mean, we are talking A to B to dispensary. and in these legal places, it is so awesome. Like, this Medmen company, they fucking got it. They are like the Apple store of dispensaries.

And then I've been to some other dispensaries, and it's like you're walking into a closet with a couple lights on. It's like, oh, you were selling illegal fucking weed, like a month ago. And we haven't changed anything. Like, the air conditioning's on the side. So I'm trying to get in there. I think there's a right way to do it and a wrong way to do is what I'm saying. I think it is a, I think it's a very sophisticated business.

Yeah. We went to a dispensary out when we was in Vegas, and that shit was nice, bro. Dude. How awesome will life be when that is just all over. Hey, what are you doing? I'm going to go get high as fuck right down there. Yeah. What is it?

Oh, it's a cafe. It's right on the street. Yes. And then I got these, they got these weed drinks. Oh. I haven't had the, I haven't dabbled in a weed drink. Oh, so I can chug drinks again, you know, and it's like taking me back to outer space. It's pretty cool, man.

It's, I really enjoy the business out of it. good, I think. All right, so through transitioning with bar stool, you're essentially climbing. Hey, this is smart. What, what we got? The topics? Oh, yeah. The boy, the boys, Alex hooks it up, man.

This is a really, this is a smart build, I'd say. A well-oiled machine. Yeah, I think it is. That's really smart. I can't do that stuff. I can't have something staring at me. You just fucking talk the whole time, just right there, arms crossed up, moving around. You just talk the entire time.

Yeah, it's just like we have a paper, I guess, with some... Does that not exhaust you? Every fucking day, bro. Pretty long, yeah, the pretty long days. At what point are your... Yeah, 100%. Not as much as a boomer. What are the vlogs called?

America's hardest working man? Yeah, I mean, that's not... There's no bullshit. Not as much as a boomer or sison. Who's that? Yeah, exactly. That's a great question. Are we talking boomer?

Like, okay, boomer? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we are. Okay? Same thing. No, he's, he was former quarterback. He's on CBS. He's one of the, that's hilarious.

You are hilarious, dude. Bring it up. Bring it up. Well, for what it's worth, I didn't know who Boomer was until we started saying, boomer is the hardest working man in sports. So after the deal got announced publicly, you know, like, too many people reached out to me. Like, too many people reach out to me and were way too nice.

Like, people were so cool. And I tried to answer everybody. That is fact, too, because you ended. I ended up getting back to me probably 72 hours later, but you kind of just know the dude's probably getting bombarded. I legitimately tried. I didn't sleep. I tried to answer everybody back,

and you were very nice, by the way. I appreciate you doing that. But a lot of people said, like, wait until you hear who you hear from. You know, like, all the people you thought were, like people were going to say, your family now that they know how much money have or whatever. It's like, okay. But once these people started reaching out to me,

I was, like, pumped to hear from these people. Like, I actually was, like, thankful for the people that were reaching out to me. I was like, hey, great to fucking hear from you. I hope life is good. And I tried to answer everybody. And then I started getting too high. I got to the point where I was like, well, if I answer these people, but I don't answer this person, these people are going to tell this person.

So now I got to fucking answer this person. Yeah, but you're up in the cloud, too. So I didn't sleep. Like, I was in a hotel in Los Angeles because I had smacked down in L.A. So I signed the deal, announced the deal, hop on a plane, fly to Los Angeles. I'm all by myself. I do the show from a computer in a hotel room. Yeah.

Okay, after the deal signed. And I get all these texts, and I try to answer everybody. I don't sleep the entire night through. I'm texting people. I'm excited. I'm pumped. Holy shit. Life is much different now.

It is crazy. But I heard and saw basically everything that everybody said. And Boomer was very happy for us. I recognize Boomer now that he's up on the screen. Legend. Legend. Legend. Legend.

Boomer. Boomer. Boomer. But yeah, he basically, his take was like, you know, with how hard he works. He deserves that type. It was kind of his angle was like he works harder. than like us or me. Like that's kind of how I took it.

So now we just referred to work ethic as being boomer asycin standard. Okay. Are you working as a lot as a sison? Because I think that's the biggest shot you can take at me. Like honestly, it's the only thing I think I'm really good at. Is what? Working. Oh.

Like I'm just going to go. You'll talk about your appreciation videos. Like, you know, you'll see all the appreciation and gratitude, but you also see behind it. You remember everything. I feel like you remember everything that anybody has said. Yeah. That's kind of tried holding you back.

But you just find that little smile. You're kind of speaking to them, too. Huh? The smile is, you know what I'm saying? The smile is kind of for them. Like, here I am now. I think about a lot of people, yeah, when they lay their head down a night

in their pillow talking with themselves. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's cool. Those are cool moments, too. Those people are cool. Real estate, yeah. I'm so appreciative.

You're thanking everybody, but you're thinking, hey, all you motherfuckers that were saying some shit, too. Now, there was a lot of people in my life that weren't mentioned in that video, you know, and they saw the video. Yeah. I think they saw it. But I genuinely believe, like, and I used to be a lot more of like one of those, like, oh, is that right type person.

And then, you know, like, I'm just going to avoid said person, but I am going to make sure that person has to have a conversation with himself at some point. Like, oh, I was wrong there. You know, like, I used to be a lot more. Like, now literally as I'm getting older, I'm starting to become like, I don't want to say more forgiving of people, but I think more forgiving of people and just being like, oh, they're just idiots. Like there are so many idiots.

And I think we're, I'm an idiot. I'm an idiot. I'm an idiot. You know this though. You're in the NFL. Like the fucking highest level. There's some shit that happens where you go like, how is this the NFL? Like, you know what I mean?

There's a lot of that stuff. And then once you start peeking your nose and like seeing every place, you're like, how is this? You know, like you start like actually asking that question. It's like inspiring almost though, you know? Right. Whenever you're like, oh, this person has a chance to do all of this, well, I have to fucking be able to at least do something like that.

You know, so it's like I think as I've gotten older, I've realized that like everybody is just kind of their own smart and mostly dumb and a lot of other things. And you're figuring it all out along the way. Yeah. And if they're wrong. Quicker. Yeah. And if they're wrong, like it's cool. Like if they thought I was going to be an idiot, which I am, like they're probably right at the time, you know?

Yeah. So I'm starting to get a little bit more mature. Mature. You hear that? Okay, yeah, I feel you? Yeah, yeah, I think so. When you're like, when you're going into all these different issues, because, bro, you do, in the beginning,

were you just doing a couple podcasts a week? What was the show like in the beginning? Were you daily from day one or not obviously not day one? How many times? Three times a week. I think we're on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I think. You're Monday, you were three times a week. Then you obviously dabbling college football,

all the hardest, America's hardest working mansa, Fox Sports, ESPN, W, W, you're wrestling, you're commentating. You're doing all of these different. things, bro, and you're like a Swiss Army knife at the highest level in all of these avenues. No, no, no. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I know. You're very humble.

You're very humble. Everyone watching, know that understands your story, which is a lot of fucking people, understand the humility that you bring with yourself. I know you're humble. But me talking, my interview, I'm asking the questions. Oh, this guy stinks. All of these things. Do you feel like you've got to sort of reinvent some things about yourself when you're leaning into all these different

industries because you got a personality of wrestling because the first time you're coming out and doing all the wrestling stuff on Twitter, it was even weird for me. I'm like, I mean, obviously this Adam Cole thing's fake, right? Whoa. Hey, hang on. Oh, I hate that guy. Adam Cole is a scumbach.

The push in the studio when it was kind of happening and you, it wasn't known that you were going to wrestle, but it's like, they're setting this up for fucking wrestling. Whoa. Oh, Ty has colloid. What does he have? Colitis. Colitis, dude.

Still, from that day. Bad back? Is it? Is it... You see the cherry has to sit on? Is it tough? Like, knowing, okay, I'm going to have to kind of invent myself this way for this moment of time. No.

I just went in Rome. Dude, I literally, that's literally how I think. I love that. Yeah. I feel like that's more of a question that I'm asking to you, but it's a question I'm asking with myself, too. Hey, look at that little introspective. Yeah. Look at you, dude.

We're having a moment right now. We are. I'm the high one. Yeah, I know. But once you said... You're asking questions for yourself. I know. We said, oh, nah, dude.

I'm like, oh, this is great. No, but I need the year. It's real, though. Like, I don't know. I do stuff, like, just because I think it's like, cool. Like, I want to do it. I want to try it. I think I'm okay.

Like, if it comes to brain and speaking, I think I can get to it. I think at some point, I can give it a go. I'm not going to be at an elite level. There's Adam Claw. I'm going to call it. I mean, what? That should have been a loss of. How about social distancing, too?

This is in the middle of a fucking pandemic. This guy's pushing people. That's unbelievable. Bad guy. Okay? Obviously, I'm worried. What goes wrong with that guy? What a moment, dude?

2.475 million. Speaking of... Holy shit. I haven't seen that video in a long time. Hey, good for that video. You're all over on YouTube. No, it's wrestling. Wrestling is big on there.

It's also nice... So when I do wrestling, I feel like I'm dabbling into a different group, right? And we do it. And when you do college game day, I think you're doing a different group there. When you do get up, you know, I think you're doing a different group there, people. And you also can do different things. Like, when I do get up, it's awesome. It's just like, all right, I can just turn this up to 4,000.

Right. You know, because that is what they're trying to do. And it's in the morning show. It's like, I have a take, and I am writer than everybody else, you know? And that is what it is. So it's a fun, like, I don't say, like, it's like a fun thing to do. Like I enjoy doing it. Like game day.

Whatever they had me just basically like just bring energy whatever you do. Like, okay. Like I can figure out a way to do that. And it's just wrestling is just okay. Just talk about what is happening in front of you. But it is the most ridiculous shit of all time is happening. So like the natural things that are going to probably come are going to be pretty good. So it's like everything I just try to just enjoy and just like kind of just do what.

but, you know, you're supposed to do, it feels like. And when I did comedy that one time, like, I think, like, I won't do that until I'm only a comedian. Only a comedian. Because I watched, like, Chappelle and Burr. And I'm like, all right, I should never get on a stage again. Okay. From the way that they piece it together, the delivery, the story, the courage, the mission, everything they do is just so good. I'm like, I should never do that again.

That happens with some of the other stuff I do, and you'll see me. and that, like, kind of drift away from it. It's like, I should stop disrespecting this thing. You know, like, commentating for WWE is probably not going to be forever. Because although I feel like I'm doing good, like my way is not a way that is sustainable in that particular avenue. It's just how much over the top. So once I feel like my welcome has worn out, that's normally when I disappear.

Yeah, but I have a pretty good run. And there's some things I stink at, though, that, like, I'm like, I don't fully understand why. people are okay with me. Like what? Doing this. Like the rest in commenting there for me. I was terrible.

I mean, I was real bad. As a fan of the product, I watched my entire life, I was not good. I wasn't doing like what you were supposed to do, but people liked it because it was different, you know? But then as the people get past the,

oh, it's good because it's different. In fact, they're going to start, like, actually judging me. Like, if I, so I had to, like, get kind of good. And I'm not. To prepare. Yeah, exactly.

Nah. It seemed like you prepared a little bit. Well, that's interesting. How do you? you prepare, you know, because I'm, you prepare all day every day, right? I mean, you have to prepare all day every day. Right. I'll read something.

I'm like, oh, that'll be great for Smackdown. And then, or I'll read something on Twitter. I'm like, oh, that'll be dope for like a vlog or that'll be sweet for something in the office. You know, it's just like all day. You're just like all day. But yeah. You're like making a... I'm, I stink at a lot of things, though, but I get a good welcome buzz because I'm much different

than whatever the fuck was before. Right. What have you enjoyed out of all the different things you've dabbled in? Everything. But what have you, like, if you could pick a couple? What would you lean into if you could... I love my daily show. You do the...

Yeah, the daily show is yours. I'm talking like the Get Up, the color commentary on a, like, commentating for a football game. Oh, okay. Like stuff like that, college game day on Saturdays. Like stuff that you're not...

You kind of just dabble in, like you said, drift away. What are a couple things that you would like to go lean back in if you... The opportunity presented itself? So, like, I don't know if the opportunity who ever present itself with anything either,

you know, like that is something that's interesting. Because the people that are running a lot of these things don't necessarily like get me, but they know that people do. So that's an interesting thing too. Like, I don't know why people like you, but we know that people like you. And I'm like, me neither. You know, like, I don't really understand it either. So that's an interesting thing.

But like game day was the perfect. That's wrestling in football. Right. You know, so that was, that was like crowd, got a chance to talk to the crowd, got a chance to play with the crowd. Jump in the fucking water. And what if there was a log? Have we thought about that?

I did not even Because they told me late that it was not deep enough But by that point I'd already, I'm going. Not a lot of people knew. I don't think a lot of people knew that I was going to do that.

I'm not sure the audio people knew because I had a full pack on. I don't think the, I don't think the camera people knew. There might have been like one production assistant and might have like overheard a conversation of like when they were, will you do something on the pont?

with Dave and I'm like yeah yeah for sure where's the pontoon gonna be there like right over there I'm like I'd called a game at Baylor before and we did a shot on the pontoon and I was like at the game I was thinking oh I should go off the roof of this thing for sure like how many times you get to do that like that would be dope and then when game day happened I think Foxy was with me and maybe Zito was with me and we're sitting there I'm like I'm going off of that fucking pontoon for sure and I think CET it was like, go, like, go, you know, like a little bit of, cause a little bit of thing. So I think somebody had heard, you know, and that person was really cool.

I forget her name. She was just there for a couple weeks. But she was like, do you want me to go ask if it's deep enough? And we're like, yes, that's something I would have never thought of. I would have just assumed if the boat's in there. Right. It's got to be deep enough. But she was like, I'll go ask.

So she goes and asks. And while I'm walking to the boat, she's like, asking the person as I'm getting close and then he says no it's not deep enough and then she says no it's not deep enough to me as I'm getting on the boat and it was like hmm I think I got to go yeah I think I'm gonna take the chance

I think I still gotta go yeah but the water was not see through it was a river I could have died I could have impaled myself but that would have been fucking like used going out on the football field could you imagine if I went out if I went out doing a belly flop into the brassis on college fucking games day

that would get pretty good views Is that get more than Adam Cole? Yeah, that would get some fucking views, but you die young, you die a hero, bro. I didn't think I was going to live long anyways, but that would have been a wild way. I didn't even think of that happening, by the way. My wife was the one that told me afterwards.

She was like, there could have been a fucking log that just impaled you there. I'm like, there could have been, huh? Yeah. Dude, talk about your wife for a minute because obviously we talk about all this shit you do. And I know, you know, God bless my wife, too. Like, she puts up with me just, you know, being on the phone

or not being present at times and stuff like that. Yeah. Like all the shit that you do, how badass does your wife have to be in this whole entire situation? Yeah, she holds it down, man. She is awesome. She is really, like, because I, you know, I get sick of me a lot. Like, I get sick of me. Like, I don't know how anybody does.

Like, I can't listen to our shit much. I can't do it. So, like, being around me has to be a lot because I'm normally like this pretty much all the time, you know? Like, just how you do and keep it moving. And like, really, why do we even worried about anything for? Like, let's just keep it going, like this whole thing. So I can be a lot, I think, to a lot of people. I'm not easy to be around, I don't think, like on a regular basis.

So she is, like, one of the first people in my entire life that is, like, just, like, cool with me. Like, she just, like, understands me. We smoke together a lot. She holds it down. There's moments where she hates me, like, for what I do. And, like, she doesn't love that I'm on the road every Friday, especially after having a show for, like, all day. day and then the weekends are obviously designated just trying to watch every single game so you can know what the fuck you're talking about. So like she has to be fully committed as well and she is. She's the fucking best man. I'm very, very, very lucky.

And she has a foundation she runs and she's kicking ass with that. So like, what's the foundation called? For the brand. F you are the brand. Play off a for the brand. You see. Play off a for the brand. Yeah. Very smart. Well, you know, very simple, which quite a simple. And she is, basically, it's a foundation to help pay, yeah, for canine cancer treatments for families. So that's my dog Val right there. She was Sam's dog.

She was found in a kennel, half pit bull, half sharp A. She was a street dog before she was in a kennel. And Sam brought her into my life whenever we started dating. And that's the first dog that I've like, we've had like a, you know what I mean? Mom was connected. Yeah, first dog in my life. That's your goodest girl. Yeah, that is.

Yeah. So she got cancer. So she got diagnosed with cancer, and we took her to a doctor or whatever, a vet. And the price to get the treatment was like $6,000 or something like that. And they don't have insurance for that. And I was like, holy fuck. Like, obviously we were going to pay for that. We were going to do that because I love this dog.

Right. But if this was me growing up or my wife growing up, like there is no chance that dog is happening. So she put together an entire foundation with a couple of her girls to raise money, to help people pay for those treatments, basically. So it's like, it's a pretty cool thing, and it's all because of Val. Yeah, Val's had three surgeries now. She's the best, dude. How old is she?

Tough. Was that a tough question? 10? 9? 10? Okay, she's getting up there. She's living forever. That dog is going to live forever. But, yeah, that is. It's like a good girl, dude.

I've had a couple moments where I thought she was gone, though. You know, like, I guess she was going in for the cancer surgery or whatever, you know, and it's like, I was very worried about her. But, yeah, that's what my wife's the best. I'm happy you brought her up because she's also funnier than me. She is. She's the unsung hero, bro. Hey, she holds it down.

I mean, everything would be my house. An utter disaster. Right. I mean, I live. Sometimes I'll see the videos and I'll know, I'll know she's recording you and stuff. I'm like, I wonder what it's like, you know, to be her every day. Just being around fucking Pat, especially when you guys are fucking on the road, back when you were on the road. Like, it seemed like all the fucking time.

She traveled with us, though. She travels with, she'll take some of the two. trips. But yeah, she's... And then you go on vacations and sometimes you got to do something mid-vacations. I just put it in my own life, too, with my wife and stuff. And I'm just like, oh, man, that'd be hard to kind of navigate. Hey, babe, I know we're on this vacation and get away from work, but this big opportunity

is happening right now. Yeah, but, like, you know, those vacations are good forever. Right. Which I think, like, she is cool with, too, you know? Yeah. Like, we all understand, like, there's an opportunity here that not. Not a lot of people have. Yeah.

And I don't know why it's happening. I don't know how long it's going to happen. And future life's going to be dope, you know? And that's kind of like, and current life is cool too. Like we get a chance to do so many cool stuff. But Sam deserves, you know, all the praise that she gets. And I am very, very thankful for her. Hey, Sam, shout out to you.

Shout out to you for holding down. Shout out to Sam. We have a lot of animals, though. I mean, she loves animals. I love animals, too. Not as much as her. She loves it. It sounds like Taylor's wife.

They're big in the animals. They'll have like, you know, all different kinds of animals, too. It's like a goddamn farm out there at their house at times. And Taylor back, oh, we got three more ducks, dude. Like she saw them at... She saw them at tractor supply and we had to get the ducks, man. If we could get ducks, she would. I think, yeah.

They're building, like, little animal houses out there and stuff. She was feeding the raccoon, dude. I mean... You know, like, she is a very cool spirit, I'll say. She's... Right. Nothing like anything I've ever met before. She's awesome.

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You probably, it's all over. You're going to flow. I know, you know, this, that, and the other that you've been expressing. But what is the long-term goal? What do you see with the boys? I don't know. I am just going with flow, though, in that. I think that's an interesting thing for people because,

and I said this in the video, a lot of people are like super chess players, you know, like they're thinking to move out, close to Sillian, you know what I mean? Queens Gambit, dude, up on the fucking ceiling. You know, people are doing that. That's what everybody. Zooming out.

Hey, man, this is what we got to do this. And if we do this, we do this. And I think I do and we do that, like, hey, what's the goal? This. Okay, how do we get to this, this? And then let's execute this. But it is mostly mission-driven.

like, okay, let's get to this, let's get to this, let's get to this. Like, the sports book thing was pretty obvious. Like, that was probably going to be a good partnership to try and perform well for. You know, like, hey, let's let Fando know that, and they've lost money from us a lot. But, I mean, 69,000 people lost a bet last weekend because. I saw that, man. That's tough. Just taking them into the water with you and they didn't come back.

Nobody came back, man. Half a darn. Yeah. I was so, hey man, that would have been so cool. Oh, my God. The celebration after that would have been insane. You couldn't have told me nothing on that next show. If 6,000000 people would have hit one bet, a parlay that was plus a thousand to,

I mean, I would have been, oh my God. Anyways, we lost. You let him down. I did, dude. It was the ref, though. It was the ref. Always the fucking ref too, bro. Ah, it is.

They need to get that shit fixed. They really do. Hey, I think players are more vocal about this because we realize, like, how much gets fucked by some wrong calls. Bro, 100%. I think so. Like, I'm very loud about it on a regular basis.

Like, you know, these refs need to fucking tighten up. We need to figure this out. We need to allow technology to help these fucking dudes who have no idea what they're doing, obviously. Are you allowed on your daily show to have these refs, specific refs? Come on. I would love.

Face the music. I think that's what a lot of people want to see, too. It's like... Real accountability. Yeah, players got to go to press conferences right after losing, right after something emotionally driven. But these rest, they just get to skate on back. Oh, just walk out of there!

Now, listen, we are not saying you should throw anything at these refs. No. No, you are not saying that. I'm not saying that. No, no, we're saying... We'd like some answers. Yeah, we were just like... Some civil conversation.

And like you said, accountability, some ownership. Yeah. And making a fucked up call and being like, I fucked up. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, I hope we... get that fix someday. I do too. But anyways, no, a grand vision.

Like, I'm just, we're just living, man. I'll probably, I'm going to be a professional golfer someday. Like, we'll probably get into the golf content. Caleb, 51 strokes. Hey, he's gonna make it. I think so, too. He's gonna make it. And the foreplay guys that were always super nice to us. I'm fucking very happy that that show is crushing. They are such good.

They were always very, very nice to us. That was like, very nice to them. But no, we're just doing the show, man. Just doing the show? Who knows? Like, if you're 34 with, like, the most watch sports show on the internet. And it's like you got to have something cook. And I know there's going to be a day where I'm up to something comes back out on the internet.

And by the way, when that goes... With bothers the fuck out of me, especially my, hey, hey, what you got cooking? See, but when that goes up, that's literally when I find out like, oh, this is all right, this is what we're doing. You know, because ideas will cook. Like, there will be seeds that will be planted. Mm-hmm. You know, where, like, if we had the opportunity to do this, this would be cool.

And then maybe six months later, maybe eight months. months later, maybe a year and a half later, something happens. And it's like, boom, okay, we had that idea. Let's go ahead and do that. Now we can roll it. So then that's when the, I'm up to something starts. And then it's, it had been probably talked about before, but we just found the either the time to do it or the proper home for it to live, if that makes sense. Yeah. Like I want to get, I want to do live shows. I want to do live shows bad. Like going the road? Yeah, real bad. I was, toward around the country. Yeah. I don't know about how often, but I want to see the people that have really...

Could be seasonal. Yeah, I think quarterly maybe, yeah. Yeah. I think that's the right move. I think people want to. People are always asking. Right now people are just doing stuff too. I'm seeing people sell out arenas, you know?

Like, a lot of people are selling out arenas, you know? And it's like, holy shit, selling out arenas. Like, that would be a fucking... Imagine if we could give away like $10 million one night because we sold out a fucking arena? Like, that would be a crazy... Like, the things that could have... happen, I think. You know, that's what I really think about as opposed to, like, what the plan is.

The daily show will just continue. And then what comes from it will always, you know, kind of figure out as we're going to. Yeah. And the way, like, everything is happening with some out these arenas, like, whether it's comedians and they're putting on shows and it's an experience along with just the comedy, like, the possibilities are kind of like. You can make some dope shit. Yeah. Especially because I'm with WWE. So I'm in an arena every Friday, right? And I see, like, their roadies put the show together, the stage together, the lighting together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talking about...

I mean, there is always... No, no, no, no. Quietly... It's just a checkers move, right? Because you can move one... It's not a checkers move. Yeah, it is. It is checkers, because I'm not thinking, like, 15 steps ahead,

but it would, like, make sense if you wanted to do, like, live arena shows, you'd learn from a company that had been doing them for 30 straight years, like, every single week. Right. That would probably be a smart thing. And then if you also are a fan of it, you get an opportunity to do it. It's like, okay, this makes sense. sense to do. This is like a good thing

to probably get into. Big question I have. Why haven't you been on Joe Rogan? I don't know, man. Why don't you think you've been on Joe Rogan? I don't know. You fucking tell me, bro. You're trying to get on Rogan one day? Dude. I mean, you got you're on Rogan, bro?

You're in the circle of best friendships with the him and the Aaron Rogers and you can... Dr. Joe Rogan. Actually, I do believe we coined the name. Yeah, Dr. Joe. Rogan. I'm not saying some other brain wouldn't have thought of that but I do believe we were one of the first to go

oh fucking Dr. Joe Rogan dude because that whole scene but hey pal I got into the world of people hating each other and I'm not normally in that my internet existence I've muted out the proper amount of people of my Twitter

I've gotten back into blocking folks done a great job of staying in the middle making everybody laugh I know what everybody hates Hey, listen, nobody needs to be listening to me on those decisions anyway, so I'm just going to fucking just keep my shit to myself because I don't even know if I'm right. So I don't know if I should be telling other people that whole thing. So, yeah, that whole Aaron Rogers situation was wild, I'd say. I had people from every single socioeconomic class, every single political class, letting me know that I was the worst human on Earth.

And it was fantastic. Everything that's wrong with the world, man. Oh, dude, everybody. this guy's our fucking hero, right? This guy's our hero from one side. And then, oh, this motherfucker deserves to go to jail. He's killing people. I mean, you know, and then I'm in there,

and I'm allowing him to say this to a lot of people. So obviously, I'm killing people too. I'm killing people. What are you thinking when he's going off about that kind of stuff, too? So in my head, I was like, oh, this kind of sounds like, I was like, this kind of sounds like Rogan. And then he said, I talked to my friend Rogan. And I was like, oh, my God.

Like, he's actually in the clip, in the clip you see me like cover my mouth like this or whatever and it was because in my head right before it happened I was like this sounds oh of course he's friends with Joe Rogan of course he is like that whole thing that's kind of what it was and I've been very you know and I think being in a NFL locker room or football locker room in general more so than any other sport that I played I might be wrong in this like in NFL locker room has so many different views and beliefs the melting pot man whenever you get a chance to like go home into those people's

like cookouts or like go to those the gala or go to whatever and you see why they believe what they believe in like why they feel the way they feel or you hear and you listen to why people think the way they do it's hard for me after experiencing the things I was so lucky to experience in the game of football and get a chance to go travel to people's parties or houses or events it's hard for me to be a person just be like hey you're fucking wrong unless we have I don't know, what, 10 hours to discuss their entire life on how they got to this decision. And I don't think I'm going to be the person that's going to change them. Like, you know what, Pat McAfee's going to be the guy that's going to get me off of this feeling that I have,

that I'm willing to potentially get a fine and all this shit. Like, I just, I find it interesting. I was getting attacked by a lot of people for not pushing back. And it's like, he said he had a 500-page report. What the fuck? You're right. I've never read 500 pages in my life. Like, what do we even?

What are we even doing? It's like that spotlight, too, of like, yeah, but you have this platform and all these, all these people listen to you and you have this responsibility. Yeah, but I think like a show can also just be one that displays and showcases humans as who they are. Like, that's a form of entertainment as well, I think. Right. You know, so that's an interesting dynamic that all the big journalists came after me for. And it's like, I'm not doing your shit.

Like, that's your shit. Right. Like, I'm doing my shit. You do your shit of yelling at whoever. And whatever your opinion is, you do. my shit is, hey, do you want to learn about the two-time MVP back-to-back? Like, do you want to learn about this fucking guy who is maybe the greatest of all time at the biggest sport of all time? Like, do you want to learn about why he is the way he is?

Like, maybe we should just listen and, like, be like, you know, that doesn't have to be necessarily how I live. But, oh, it's cool to hear why one of the greatest of all time and the biggest sport of all time is the way he is. Like, that's just, I don't know why people can't just view things that way. Like, Charles Barkley came on and actually chatted to us about Aaron. mistake and he was pro-vax and he gave his entire reason and I was like, I actually thanked him. I'm like, thank you for saying that by the way

because everybody just assumes that... Everyone fucking hates me right now. Yeah, everyone hates me right now thinking like, I am doing this, but I just want to hear why Charles Barkley thinks what Charles Barkley thinks. This is a fucking legend. This is an icon. Like, whenever people come on my show, like I honestly just want to hear why

they are the way they are, why they think the way they think, what they think. Like, I'm genuinely curious about all that stuff. But when Ian Rappaport comes on, just like, hey, Ian, fucking give us some news, dude. Help us check out, man. You do the talking. Ian's the best.

We have some regular guests, like Chuck Bagano comes on weekly. Obviously, Aaron comes on weekly. Ian, like, the J.B. was coming on there. Coach J.B. was coming on for a little bit. That was awesome. He's funny, dude. He's a funny cat, man. I fucking wish, like, there's another guy.

Like, I don't know how. Because I don't talk college ball. Like, I'm not a big college ball guy. I don't do a lot of Jew coach. stuff. He knows NFL stuff, but like, I don't know. It's just like the fit wasn't great, but we were so incredibly lucky. It was great. The fit

was great for what it was, and we'll probably, hopefully have him back for next college football season. But there's a guy, like, I hope I see like super sexy. Like, he's one of one. Right. You can do it's one of one. Like, those give a fuck meters are just, not existent. They only white dude in Compton in his neighborhood.

Like, think about that guy. Like, we should, hear that guy. Right. I would like hear. He needs to be a vessel, a bridge. I would like hear that guy. And when he comes on, he says something that we don't agree with or a lot of people don't agree with, like, people tend to just attack me for it. It's like, listen, man, I'm okay with people saying how they feel. Right. If that's how they want to do and if I make them feel comfortable enough to be themselves, you can judge them however you want, but you got to know that there's a reason why they feel the way they feel, though, too. These people aren't just saying shit just to say shit. Like, they have their beliefs as well, those exist.

Even though you think they're stupid, like, I don't know if everything has to be a complete fight on why you don't agree with somebody. Yeah. Like, I just don't think that has to be a thing. Yeah, especially, uh, I just think about Aaron, man. But, dude, it's, my man's got some nuts on him to be able to come on and just every Tuesday and just talk about whatever he's feeling and talk about whatever he wants to talk about, just because you've been in all the locker, you've been in the team meetings,

not necessarily the locker rooms. The locker rooms are like, you know, hey, it, they support. what you guys, everybody supports each other with stuff that they do off the field. But you sit in the team meetings and the position meetings, offense, defense meetings and stuff, and you hear, I just know whenever an episode comes out with us, and I

know I've said in meetings where Rable's about to talk about my social media or my asshole gets a little tie-based on something that was said, and just knowing that Aaron goes out there because he kind of just can because he is the best in the world. Yeah. So he's just able to kind of be who you can afford to be, right? Right. Yeah. I mean, that is,

there was a couple of times where, or, you know, I got in trouble from my Twitter account or whatever. And I was like, all right, valid. You go in the next day? I was like, all right, that makes sense. Like, yeah, I can see why you're upset in this entire thing. I didn't mean to distract from the team, whatever. But Aaron, I think the only thing he does,

and I think what we've learned about him so much is it feels like he loves his teammates. Right. Like, it really does feel like he loves his teammates. And I don't know what he, I didn't know him a long time ago. I have no idea. And AJ has known him a long time, you know, obviously AJ Hawke has. and their interactions are awesome. But I feel like him just opening up about who he is,

there's nothing that you could potentially get mad at him about from a team perspective. Yeah. The couple of dudes I've talked to that are on the team, they say he's a boy. Yeah. Which is, you know, which is the stamp. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, he's a boy.

Yeah. That's all I got to see. You're talking at that goddamn party like Keanu Reeves, dude, with the push. I mean, Aaron's having a good time out there. And he enjoys the scotch. And I think he's legitimately one of the smartest humans that ever exist too. I think that is potentially a case as well. One of the smartest humans that ever exists.

Well, like not in the, you know, like, let's not put him in the... Talking about like introspective, self-awareness. Like jeopardy. Like, he wants to go, like, against the real... We're talking trivia and shit. Yeah, like, I think, like, smart, like, in that fashion, not, like, changed... Ah, he... I'm not going to speak for him.

Never, man. I'm not going to speak. He had a 500-page report done on... And he must have looked at it from the back. I would assume he looked at it. He has a book club. Now, I assume he's looked at the things. But, yeah, he's an interesting guy.

We've been, I've been, we've been very lucky to talk to him, but I've been very, very lucky to have conversations with him on a regular base. I enjoy him. I think there is. I have no idea when he comes on the show. Yeah. Sometimes stuff will happen with the boy, Taylor, but hey, yeah, we probably shouldn't, I'll just run this thing this week.

You know what I mean? Oh, really? So Taylor doesn't get any shit? Yeah, because it's like, you know how people come after you, fans by, oh, he's more focused on the podcast and he's playing football. And, you know. I knew if I had a couple bad games. Right.

And that's where it goes. And, you know, we always related to a dumb example of like, well, what do you want to do to do for a couple hours? Like, guys play video games, guys do this. It's like, you come on and have a conversation on a podcast. But, you know, the woke mob. I said that lightly. I said that lightly. Whoa, well, no, now you're getting me back into this.

He's getting me back into this. No, no. The opinions of Will do not reflect that of me. No, but, yeah. It's, yeah, it's off so fast. You've been, I'm just, we've, you've been around the team to where you just know how that dynamic can play out. So I just think it's dope that he comes on and, you know,

is able to be who he is because he can afford to be that way. Chuck Pagano told me, like one of the first times he met me, you know, and he became coach of the Colts, and he probably only knew me from my Twitter account, you know, like from outside of, I know this guy got arrested. That's pretty dope though, right? Twitter account? This guy got arrested, he has a Twitter account,

and he's an okay punter at that time. I didn't really know how to pun at that point, but I was an okay. I was an okay punner. Him, his first conversation with me was one, like, why don't you stop tweeting, you know? And I was like, uh, like, that's not how he said it,

but the way, like, he was basically telling me, like, how about you stop tweeting or whatever? And I was like, man, I just lay in my bed. And I just, I'm on my phone. Like, that's literally what I do. And if I, if I say anything or do anything that hurts the team, like, I'll put it down or whatever, you know?

Like, we had to have that conversation early. but Chuck was understanding of it and like cool about it. There's a lot of football dudes that would not have been like, no, actually, you're going to, you're going to not fucking tweet, okay? This is what you want to punt balls here. That's what you're going to do. And I think that's what you're referring to. Like that, once you get labeled a distraction, oh, I know.

It is over. Because I think for me, that's what, if I was going to play this year, it was going to be for like a team or a staff that I kind of knew and they kind of knew what was going on. Because like, Raybo, I had that conversation with them because there's a couple times where I was on P-Squod, so I was just watching the games and live tweeting and stuff like that. He's say, hey, just be careful. You know, you don't say anything that can hurt the team. And I'm like, trust me, I am.

I do not want to be on your bad side braves. And then besides you, when I go there, he's like, hey, you know, what do you plan on doing, like busing and stuff? I'm like, you know, we got a couple of things in the library that will just play, but I won't, you know, do anything that'll cause a distraction. He's like, all right, because people are aware. Coaches will come up to me. People understand.

Yeah. Coaches will come up to me by, hey, man, your Twitter. Your Twitter and your podcast, like, my buddy, he's, like, close with Pat McAfee. I forget the coach's name. Burbs. Is it Burbs? Yeah. Do you know who I'm talking about?

Yeah. Okay. Well, say, shut up Burrs, man. Yeah, yeah. I assume, this is Raiders. This is a Raiders organization? Yeah, Raiders organization. Yeah, yeah.

Burbs is a guy from the Colts, one over there a few years back, I think. Okay. Yeah, he's a good dude. He's been one of our early fans. He was like one of our first fans. He's like a good guy. He worked in the Colts and we're like friends. He's a good guy.

Okay, perfect. Yeah. Shout up Burrs, man. But you're right with saying like the people you know, like at other teams. When I retired, you know. I could still probably kick a ball pretty good one weekend if I had to or a couple weekends. The only people that would reach out to me in my retirement to potentially think about coming back with people that had known me in the past.

There's no new coaches. No. There's no new coaches. Hey, you know what? I want to sign up for the fucking Pat McAfee thing. Like, there's nobody reaching out. Like a team that I had zero connection with. There was nobody thinking like, yeah, we'd like to bring that guy to retirement to punt for us.

Right. Nobody was thinking of a comeback season now. I was going to kick this. Was this in 2020? 2019. Because you had sent me, you had went to a workout. Yeah. And you took a photo of your knee and it blew up on you after the workout. You're like, I was up to something, but I don't think I'm up to something anymore. When was that?

I don't remember a few years back. It was after the... I don't know if there was a few, bro. Two max. Yeah, too. Yeah, maybe a couple. There you go. A few three. Yeah. A few, few three, couple two. Yeah, maybe a couple years back, I was... So the guy that I was kicking, my kicking coach, basically. coming out of college. And by kicking coach, I went to his camps, and he was the only one that really helped me.

So he was my kicking coach. It wasn't like a full-time thing, though, but he was a good dude who I kept in touch. His name was Jamie Cole. He became the kicking coach for the Bears because the Bears had the Cody Parky thing incident happen. Right, with the double doink. Right.

Which was blocked. Cody Parkie got fucked in that whole thing. I mean, that ball got tipped. You know, it didn't go, it wouldn't want straight in. Yeah. But it did get blocked allegedly, and nobody talked about it until it was already gone. And who's old buddy from Chicago, Barstall Carl, maybe?

I think it's Barstall Carl. He had one of the most epic risk. How much fucking money do we have to pay you to make a fucking kick? It was one of the most epic things of all time, but they were looking for a kicker, I guess, afterwards. And Jamie Cole became like the kicking consultant there. And Chuck Pagano was the defensive coordinator there. So Chuck had seen me kick field goals in practice.

Jamie Cole had seen me kick field goals for a long time. So it was like a pretty, it was like a hate. Do you think you would want to maybe get back and kick because they thought that role in Chicago after what had happened would be a tough role? You'd have to be a pretty, like, confident human being, they thought. Like, that's what they were thinking there. And I think Chuck and Jamie both, like, were like, hey, if we could get this dude in and we could maybe he could be a guy. But I was going to have to earn it. I was going to have to, like, try it.

I was going to have to, like, compete against people. They weren't just going to, like, hand me the gig. I was going to have to, like, do the whole thing. And I hadn't got a kick in the NFL. And nobody had really had success punting and kicking in the NFL doing both. So I, like, I definitely considered it. It was one of those things where we had a very good show, very good business going. But it was like, nobody's ever been able to do this before.

That might be a pretty dope. Hell yeah. Maybe I could really do something. And then I went and did a full workout. And I'll tell you what, the ball was flying. It did look good. But, I mean, my knee, I couldn't even, I could barely get through the airport. I was, like, walking.

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So we had a rule at India, probably in Tennessee as well, the fine that we would get if we were to give our game jersey or whatever afterwards. So we never did it. Like it wasn't something that happened. I think the game has changed mightily since then, where everybody seems to be doing it there for a bit, aside from COVID. But we didn't really swap jerseys much, like ever.

Like the only people that did it, I think, were like, like maybe like Peyton or Andrew. Like, I think it was like only big thing. So me and Vinny never really want to do it. So we said clearly, though, I do remember clearly saying, hey, we'll sign one and send it, you know. We can't do it right now, game worn, but we'll get a jersey.

official jersey from the equipment room. We'll send it this week or whatever. And we did not. I mean, that was fucked up. That was really fucked up. I still, I mean, I have the utmost respect for Brett Kern, too. I used to watch Brett Kern's film. I'd watch Brett Kern's film.

He is a monster. He's a robot, dude. He does this thing, too, where, like, when he catches the ball, it's like almost, like, pulling back a trigger, like sets him up perfectly every single time that I try to steal. I tried to emulate it because he was such a robot. He is fucking so good. is really good. He and I have always had,

I think, good conversations until I just fucked them over and didn't send the... You're able to make it right? I mean, I will. Yeah, I've got to find a jersey. There's not a lot of McAfee jerseys out there. There's got to be some. I'm telling you, I don't even have any of mine. I can get up the cold soon and just get something made.

I should. Just a thought. I should ask them. I should probably get a bunch, though. Like, there's probably numerous people that I have said. 100%. So... Yeah, so I just picked up like 50. Titans jerseys yesterday at the Titans facility. He just gave them to you.

Yeah, that I had put in an order for, but never, the transaction never went through. This was from last year, but I was like, hey, can I come, can I get those 15 jerseys? Because Andrew Hawke, Andrew Hawkins. Oh, fucking stud. He would stud. He's got big brain, bro. Big brain. And when I was talking to him, I forget what year it was. It might have been the same year that we would get connected.

You got a roll? How far are we from downtown here? Not far. Ah, we're okay. We got a few more minutes. Okay. Yeah, we'll finish up. No, no.

Michael Cole just texted me, though, and said, are you working today? What's going on? I'm like, yeah. You say, I'm on bus with the boys, man. Yeah, dude. We got bigger fish to fry right now, conversation with the boy, dude. Playoff Willie. Hey, man, we were sad.

You got cut. I was sad, too. I knew, like, I knew what was going to happen because Basaccio, well, the first time I didn't know was going to happen. The second time when they brought me back in, when the dude did gotten COVID. He's like, I can only promise this week. And then I don't know how it'll turn out. I was like, oh, it's all good as long as we can get to the playoffs. And then we won that dramatic-ass game against the charges. And I won it so badly. We were partying in the locker

room, bro, dancing, having a great time. Dude, it's the best feeling in the world. Because that was a winning end game. And I was like, I'm sitting there with the boys and everything. I told Vesachia. I was like, man, I don't know what y'all are going to do. But I hope I get to stay for this playoff run. He's like, he's like, you know, I'll fight for you. But, you know, I wasn't able to get that far. Hey, but you made them, hey. Playoff Willie, I did my job. Yeah, you did.

You were a hired gun. Yes. We need to make the playoffs, boy. Yeah. One tackle, one almost fumble recovery. Excuse me. Or was it three and a half minutes of PT? Excuse me.

Let's go, dude. The number speak for himself. Three minutes is like two years of my career. You crushed it, dude. But Brett is, back to Brett Kern, though. I got a lot of respect for Brett Kern. I love, love Breckerman. I feel like you're making up for it with this failing him on the jersey.

Well, I completely forgot about it until right now. Like, you know, like the last, I forgot about it, obviously, immediately after the game, which is rude of me, very rude of me. Not a lot of people ask for my jerseys. So, like, especially other players. So it's not like something that I'd be used to doing. And also, I feel like a little bit of an asshole walking into the equipment room and be like, hey, by the way, I gave my jersey away.

I need to, yeah, another fucking jersey. I need to sew another one. Okay, need you to sew another one this week. Also, take into bottom. a little bit and tighten up the sleeves because I gave, you know, like I got to get the struck going. Yeah. So I got to hook up breath for sure, but I do love it. If you do end up taking that idea of like going and getting a few McAfee jerseys,

may go ahead and throw one in so we can hang up here at the spot. Be an honor, man. And what I was going to say is going to be a good thing about Andrew Hawkins, but he said every year when I got done playing with that team, I would ask for 15 to 30 jerseys because any conversation he wanted to have, whether it's building his network or business people or big minds. he's like, I always followed up the conversation with shooting them a jersey because that would be something that ingrained with them

and I would have in the network forever. Genius, bro. That's a good business move. Yeah. That's good business. He's intelligent, like super duper intelligent. He wants he has an Emmy, I think. He's going to get a Grammy.

He's going to get an Oscar. He's going to get the EGOT, I think. He's fucking incredible. Because he does stuff with LeBron. What is it? The shop. Unerrupted. What's their company? Spring Hill?

Yeah. Is that what it is? Spring Hill? They're fucking crushing it, too. Let's talk about money now. I mean, they are... I feel like that's like another... I haven't really heard of Spring Hill.

That's like a... That's a bronze. That's part of their... Yeah. They own uninterrupted and all that stuff? Yeah. Hey. That's big moves going on.

That's elite moves going on. Yeah, I'm excited to see their sports book deal. When... Yeah, exactly. I'm excited to see their sports... What's the... You said Spring Hill? Yeah.

Spring Hill. If I haven't heard of Spring Hale, it's like, oh, people must be doing something right if people can't figure out what the top dog company is. I don't know what that meant. I think you lost it. I'm saying I know of uninterrupted and all this other stuff. It's like the Disney, the one behind the scenes, right? Walt. You're talking about Walt.

Yeah. That was a miss. It's all good. No, no. No one had a reaction. I look over a pet and he was just, who was returning? I didn't hear a reaction from the back. I was like, okay, I did not explain that.

I missed stuff. I miss a lot of stuff, though. That could have been on me. I can't too, bro. Not just can't. I mean, I will miss so much, and then I'm catching up later. Comes back around and then you're like, hey. All right, I got to reference that again to let an old buddy know that I get what they just said there because I'm an idiot.

Yeah. It's life, dude. Those athlete-driven shows, what do you think happen to I Am Athlete? That was a great transition. I don't know. I have no idea. I was so intrigued by that. I was so pumped for them, too.

Like, I enjoyed that a lot. lot, you know, especially because they had ownership over it. They were running themselves. It was an independent operation. It felt like they were really growing and going. I had a lot. I love to. I think they're still going to go, by the way. Now the pivot's happening. Yes, bro. The pivot's happening. Ryan Clark, shout out the boy, getting involved. Shout out. And also, Shannon Crowder and Fred Taylor are hilarious human beings. Love them, dude. So I think whatever they do, they're going to be successful. And then Brandon Marshall has had to pivot, but I don't know. I haven't really, I guess there's a lot of talk about.

Yeah, I guess there's a lot of shit. Because they came out, the pivot was the truth. And you're sitting there, you know, listening to and everything else, and you can tell their stuff, like, behind, you know, they're growing men, they're professionals. They understand businesses, business and stuff, but something that had to have happened. So I could watch, you like watching that stuff. I like watching that stuff because I like just watching what goes on,

kind of moves being made, just being involved. And I like, like you said, Chaining Crowder and Fred Taylor, like Fred Taylor just has the vibes of that, that OG, the one you called Unk in the locker room. Yes, OG for sure, both of them. Fred came on the show was awesome. Channing came on the show. He was awesome.

Brandon Marshall came on the show. He was awesome. That whole crew is just really talented group. And Ocho is obviously Ocho. I mean, that is. He's the man, bro. No, man. Yeah, I don't know, man.

I have no idea what happened down there. But I don't like watching that type of stuff. Like watching what? You don't like watching I am athlete? No. No, I like watching I am athlete. I don't like watching like the drama. All of it going down?

Yeah, like I don't like knowing. I don't want to, like, I'm always just like, I like, I like, you know, I enjoy all of it. Like, I'm like, you know, I enjoy all of it. So I don't want to hear about it. Let's get to the point where we're, were, you know, passed it and having good times again. And where everyone's being back to being, like, successful and stuff, find the strides. See, it's like.

But it has to happen. They were such a good group. Yeah. They all clicked and everything like that. And you're just like, man, I want to know what happened to the boys, man. It's probably some business stuff, if I had to guess. I mean, you never know. And on the internet, it's such a wild, wild west right now.

You know, it's modern day gold rush the internet right now. Yeah. And, uh, who knows? I hope they, you know what? I hope they get back together, though. Yeah, I fucking love having you on right now, bro. Did you imagine? Especially being high.

But you wouldn't have had me on not high. He's like, yeah, I mean, who knows? I honestly do. Because I started like, I started diving into it a little bit. And then I was like, I don't want to, I don't know. And it'll probably all come out, right? We assume everything will come out. I think so.

But there's so many platforms. There's so many eyes. There's like some people have this thing where, well, we have to hate this person because they're in our same area or whatever. But like now there's so much content consuming. by so many people. Like I want to see everybody crush. That's all I ever like, like, you know, I hope you crush.

I have no idea why some of our shit goes. So I don't, I'm not the person that should be telling you what to do at all. Like, but I hope. Come on now. I know you're a humble fucking individual, but I mean. What works for me? I don't know if it would work for anybody else. I honestly don't.

And I only know my game. I don't know anything else. But what I'm saying is I hope everybody crushes. I hope everybody makes a billion fucking dollars. Yeah. That's really all. There's enough eyes, man. there's enough eyes, there's enough money for this.

For everybody to eat it. Yeah. For everybody to eat on the internet. Legit. There is. Now, granted, I just got a massive pizza, you know? Yeah. Like, massive pizza.

Massive, big one. Too much. Did you negotiate that deal? Because you used to be with CAA, right? Yeah. I did some business with CAA. And it's hard to sell a punter in Indianapolis, man. I think that's a difficult.

He's on the internet. He's popular. He swears. He's a punter. He's an Indianapolis. Indianapolis. Like, I think it was a hard sell. I think it was a hard sell. I think it's a hard sell. I think it was a hard sell for some people, especially if they weren't around me on like a daily basis. So I think it was a hard sell. So, like I have no beef with anybody. It's like, I'm just going to start speaking for myself, though. Like, I'm going to start speaking for myself for these people. So I would like to hear why some things are happening or decisions are being made. I like them to actually chat with me as opposed to a potential version of me. Right. That they're hearing about. So, I mean, it's going to be a detriment to our business for sure. for sure. It's going to be a detriment to our business for sure.

But it is like, it's pretty cool to be in those meetings, you know? It's pretty cool to like have a voice in there. That is. That's awesome, man. You learn, like watching Shark Tank, you're trying to learn. You know, like, you want to be on Shark Tank one day? Yeah, yeah, probably, yeah.

That's a goal, yeah. For sure. And that'll be dope. When somebody walks in with a billion-dollar idea, hey, you have $100,000? Yeah, here you go, man. You did all the work. And you start spitting game at them and Cubans.

Like, you know, you just kind of get the respect that your peers sitting up there. Like, well, Pat kind of knows what he's talking about. No, I would embarrass myself when it came to that shit. But, like, I mean, that is the greatest concept of all time. Yeah. Okay, what are we going to do? Well, we're going to have people that have worked their dicks off to build companies. Okay, they're going to walk right in here.

And they're going to say, hey, scared shitless. Please God, come help us for whatever reason we're not doing it. And all you have to do is write a check and then just ride the wave of... And ask for more. An incredible con. You go for 30%. I'm like, that's how these billioners are all fucking. and billionaires.

They're creating shows that they're getting paid for. And then they're getting people to come pitch ideas. It's just, it was, that show I have the, that show is an awesome concept, idea, execution, everything.

It is a glorious show. You got to get on it. We got to get you on it. This is the pitch right here. All right, I got to bounce. Dude, I appreciate you coming on, man. I'm so fucking grateful that the boy came on here. Foxy, you two.

All the boys out in India. You guys should all come one day, especially when we get Taylor, Taylor back in the Austin. Yeah, we should do. something, though. We should. What do you guys do down here? A lot of music down here. Oh, we can find stuff to do, man. Yeah, we should

do that. AJ should come, too. 100%. Not that I control A.J.'s schedule. Like, I tell AJ, dude, that doesn't mean that's going to happen, but I'm just saying it would be cool if A.J. was to be a part. Yeah, I would love all the boys that come down. Yeah, bring the whole squad. I appreciate you, bro. Thank you, man. This is really cool. Thank you for having me. This is awesome. I mean, I'm going to be late, I think.

Do your Smackdown, bro. He's got Smackdown to do now. This will be on the hardest working man vlog or something, bro. No, no, no. Yeah? No, no, no. New series. New series called We Don't Do Enough Blogs. Blogs. Blog. There you go.

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