Bussin' With The Boys - Paul Bissonnette and Ryan Whitney | Creating Spittin’ Chiclets + Christian McCaffery Retiring?!

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

Episode 295 Featuring: Paul Bissonnette (Biz Nasty) and Ryan Whitney (Hosts of Spittin’ Chiclets) join Will Compton and Taylor Lewan in Chicago Barstool HQ for an epic podcast of Bussin’ With The Boys. Biz Nasty played in the NHL for the Pittsburgh, Penguins and Phoenix Coyotes. Ryan Whitney, another former professional hockey player spent a large portion of his career at the Edmonton Oilers. Will and Taylor discuss the differences in Hockey and Football with Biz and Whit. While also diving into the idiosyncrasies of playing professional hockey. Are puck bunnies real?! How do contracts work in the NHL, as well as farm teams? What are the differences between pregame fits in the NFL vs the NHL?! The Boys then dive into some CFB talk with the SEC vs Big10. Would any of The Boys ever want to coach? Standing on business when talking to GM’s and Taylor and Will’s Michigan and Nebraska Teams’ futures. Enjoy the Episode, Big Hugs.. Tiny Kisses! 0:00 Intro 0:57 We Are Not On The Bus 1:27 Please Subscribe 3:23 Taylor Has Been MIA In Vegas 4:16 Taylor Is Looking For A Truck 7:50 Tough Weekend For Nebraska 15:21 Michigan Is Riding High 22:12 Panic Time For Titan Fans? 33:15 Aaron Rodgers Is Back 35:41 LeFluer and Malik Got Their Revenge 39:26 “Carolina Is Still Dead” 42:52 Watching Football Is Expensive 43:54 Taylor Might Be Calling A Game?? 45:17 It’s Cool Going Back To Your Hometown 55:14 Spooktober Is Upon Us 59:26 Tune Into The Locker Room 1:01:57 SPITTIN CHICLETS INTERVIEW STARTS 1:02:41 Biz Will Always Be Comfy 1:03:52 Are Puck Bunnies Real? 1:04:44 Is Hockey Better To Watch Than Football? 1:10:25 Difference Between Hockey Plays And Football Plays 1:18:34 Are Playoffs Redundant? 1:20:52 Derrick Henry Leaving The Titans 1:22:55 How Hockey Contracts Work And How The NFLPA Helps Players 1:27:29 Football vs Hockey Pregame Outfits 1:31:27 Naschville Predators Preview 1:35:22 Big Ten vs SEC Atmosphere’s 1:37:59 Swifties In The NFL 1:42:22 Getting White Whale Guests And Getting Guys On The Pod 1:47:25 Having RFK ON And Getting Political 1:54:46 Getting Into It With GMs 2:01:51 Is Aaron Donald A Mount Rushmore Player? 2:04:27 Whit Has A Source Saying CMC Might Retire?? 2:05:23 Will Loves Luke Kuechly 2:10:15 How Spittin Came To Be 2:18:49 Would Any Of The Guys Want To Coach? 2:25:42 Other Aspects Of Life The Guys Want To Explore 2:29:14 Shoresy 2:33:15 How Do Canadian Players Feel About American Players? 2:38:22 Twisted QOTWFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's doing some good numbers right now. Is it? Yeah. I have love. I was just happy because to me, every time I go to Vegas, it's essentially like, please God, boys watch this so I can keep going to Vegas as much as possible.

Right. The minute those numbers start to drop, the rest of the boys are like, do you still need to go? And it's like, mentally, yes. I actually, I genuinely have an issue with playing cards now.

I genuinely have that addictive personality. And it's really just affected me in a big way. But yeah, the vlog, I thought Jackie, JP, everybody who put their fingers on that editing process did an amazing job.

because it's a lot of fun to watch going back to you were reading the Chevy Cervado ad and right before the show we were talking about you being in the market for a big boy yeah yeah yeah you thinking about going so we had we we've we've had conversations about what trucks look best and I dude I love your ZR 2 I think it's so sick here's my problem I have a like a weird get one we could do get uniformed uniform trucks yeah I know you like unis that does fire me up a little bit But for me, it's like, I want a truck, but with just a little tailor twist to it. I want something that, you know, lets me say it's mine and it's special to me because I chose to do this. Now you can do that with the lift and everything like that.

But I see so many ZR2s out there. And the next. I, so, I see so many. I see a lot, dude. Like I said, Vegas, Arizona, I just feel like. People listen to the show. People listen to the show. People listen to the show.

They're going to talk about the ZR2. So they're like, I got to give me some of that. And it is a beautiful vehicle, all those cameras and everything. are incredible, but I just, I see so many of them out there, and I've always been a guy that admired a diesel. I've always been a guy that saw a cowboy on the ranch, getting to his diesel truck with his dog in the back and stuck to myself, fuck, he's cool.

I want to be cool too. So I think, I believe in my heart that the next truck I get is going to be a diesel truck, like a 2,500 or 3,500. But then we got onto this conversation. Yeah. And essentially, you'll find out that Will and I are probably saying the same things, just with different lenses of glasses on. But my thought process is when you see a 2,500,

you see a guy with a truck, you think, there's a man. That's a guy. That's a dude. Yeah. You see a guy with a 2,500, 3,500 diesel truck. You think all the things you thought about the guy with the truck, but just maybe like a little bit more.

Like, oh shit, maybe, hey, what's he up to? That guy is so handy. But the concept of it is, it's like, that man has a real blue-collar job. Yeah. And that's why I... Diesel. I think it fits your body type,

your size and all that stuff. You're a man. I'm a man. Contrary to popular belief. That's the perception I get. When I see somebody ripping around into diesel, it's like, okay, they got... They get their hands there.

They work with their hands. You know, what's the saying? It's like all hat, no cattle. Like guys with diesels, I'm just assuming they're all cattle. Yeah, all shirt on trousers. They got to go with the cattle. Yeah.

I'm with you. If you're ripping around in a diesel, I'm thinking, you know me too well to know that I have no cattle. Yeah, yeah, there's not a lot of cattle. There's no cattle. Yeah. No trousers, no cattle, whatever the bad version is. I'm, so you're calling me, if we're in middle school,

you're calling me a poser. I'm not taking it as an insult, but that's what it's happening right now. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And now go, now I have to go into the mental struggle of ways, waiting the pros and cons is,

will my best friend thinking of me as a poser affect my purchase? And honestly, it's 50-50 right now. It's a really a coin flip Or whether or not I change my mind But maybe I just want you to get a ZR too So I know we're just we got a duo going on I know that would be And you have

It's blacked out You have in my opinion The best one Because there's a lot of different colors You can have Yeah And there was one vehicle creator We won't say the vehicle creator

He was but he had a famous quote That said you could have any color you want As long as it's black Yeah And that is a tried and true statement For you when it comes to vehicles Yeah I'd like to get some tires on it

Some different wheels Tires and I like a little I like like a quarter and a half inch like space of the tires where they kind of come out of the wheel well as a little. It gives that bulldog look. Yeah, just a little.

Like you can't be pushing this truck around. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you on that. Do you want to talk about the good or you want to talk about the bad? What is it? It's your choice.

It's your choice. Good or bad. Let's get the bad news out of the way first. Nebraska. Dog. I thought you were going to go Titans. We'll talk about them too because that is,

that's the good, the bad, and the ugly. That's the ugly. Yeah. Yeah. I won't lie. I was very bothered after we lost. I took it like everybody else. The boys on the field,

then the locker room and the stadium, the fans everywhere all over the world. That was a tough loss for us. And it sucks because we had like 10 penalties, felt like we were a little self-sabotaging. We're going on the game-winning drive. The boy Dylan, who is a stud? Stud, he is the guy.

But we have a tight-in running open in the end zone. Going to the end zone, he just overthrows him a little bit. that hurt not near as bad as the miss field a wide left yeah we had about a 35 yarder to go up three very late in the game we didn't hit that we didn't hit that touchdown we had a 50 50 ball go up earlier in the game that turned into an interception in the end zone yeah great ball great going up to get it the defender made a great play he came down with an interception so it's like thinking of those things it sucks because we know we're the better ball club however we did not come

we don't shoot ourselves on the foot. We blow our foot off in overtime. Start with the penalty. Dylan's just getting ate up in the backfield. Like it was... Gobbled up, dude. Yeah, gobbled. No pause.

No diddy. Yeah, no diddy. That boy was running around for his life. Yeah, and it was... It sucked, man. Like, I was... I had a little birthday dinner. They wheeled in the TV for us

so we could watch the game. Everybody else was having a good time. I'm dialed into the football game. Yeah. And we lost that game and it was, yeah, it felt like any other loss I've taken on the football field because I feel like I'm just a part of this team. I feel like I'm a part of the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Yeah, but yeah. And as an outsider perspective, this loss, you guys have lost a lot of games in recent years.

Like you guys have gotten your ass beat so many times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like just where there's true. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. It's been so bad. But it's not the same. It's not. It's not, dude.

This is, you had a tweet you put out either Saturday night or Sunday morning. Like, I think we needed that and you're like, what the fuck am I saying? I'm so lost right now. That was still, that was like close to midnight on Friday night. So I was still trying to process the loss. Yeah. Truly, like, you got yourself a good ball club. Now, a Matt Ruel ball club plays good, hard nose, poised football.

To have 10 penalties is unacceptable. And the good thing is, maybe your boys in the last couple of years wouldn't have noticed that it was unacceptable. These boys, the ones in this locker room, understand that, hey, we're all disappointed and we all know why we're disappointed because the expectation is the expectation. And so, you're juicing me up with that. This is exactly what Nebraska needed. You're juicing me up. Unfortunately, guess what? You're not going undefeated anymore. Boo-hoo. Who cares? I had to deal with that a couple weeks ago. You what you do? You'll watch the film. You get after it and you play hard-nosed Nebraska football from here on out. And now, here's where I think your win is.

We talked about this on the plane. Ohio State has Oregon, then y'all, then Penn State. If you're going into that game 7 and 0, that's not a sleeper, hey, we'll watch these boys out of the way. Can't coast through this one. Can't coast through it. They're going to play an undefeated Oregon team. Flying across the country, Oregon's undefeated. Yeah, but I don't know if they'll be undefeated because they have to play Michigan.

I don't know when they play Michigan. They've been playing on one loss Oregon team just to cover my bases. Oregon's a good ball club. Then they play y'all, and they're like, oh, they lost to Illinois. They lost, they were 10-point favorites. They lost to them. That's a bad ball club. No, Illinois is not a bad ball club.

They said it last week. They don't know that. They said it last week. People in the Big Ten do not respect Illinois. They don't know the Big Ten probably watch this show. They would know that Illinois is not a bad ball club. They're a tough ball club. They take on the personality of their head coach.

They run the football well. They ran the football very successfully against us, which sucked. Sucked. Because we have a good defense. Yeah. But Illinois is not a team to sleep on. You guys got to play Illinois. Yeah.

That ain't just going to be it. That ain't just a fat W in the column. In the W column? In the W column. That just ain't a fat W in the column. You know what I'm saying? I hear what you're saying. Like you guys.

Hey, hey, hey. We can talk about my boys in a second. We'll talk about them and say we're talking about Nebraska right. You're right. It's a hard-nosed ball club. I'm with you. The makeup of this team, this is one where everybody in that locker room in those four walls, they are very disappointed.

They know that is not Nebraska football. That's not how they do things. They're going to get back to work because there is no time. to bleed out right now. No. No time to bleed out. Look your wounds quick. We got to show up.

We got to show because we're going into Purdue this week. We got to beat the rest. It is a bad week to be a boiler maker. Yeah. Well, Indiana, Indiana is not another team to sleep on. They're always a team that puts up like 50 points a game. Right. And they have like, you know, you think Indiana, they have the brand that's not very,

but Jamie was a great football team last year. That staff goes to Indiana. They're mopping. They're mopping folks. They killed UCLA, which UCLA played a tough game against LSU. now whether or not LSU is actually a good team. Is it to be seen? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But Indiana, again, is not a team to sleep on. Obviously, I'm looking at, I can't wait to bounce back. I hope it's we win Ohio State and stuff like that, but we still got to get better this week. You got to put Purdue in a coffin. Yeah, we got to put them in a fucking coffin. You're saying the same thing that everybody who watches this show knows. The Big Ten is the best conference.

We have a scrappy conference. The strongest, most put-together conference. Now, just not to gloss over it because we know we are homers for our conference, but the SEC at the top is tough. Yeah, at the top. Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Alabama. Yeah, Tennessee, Ole Miss. Tennessee beat the hell out of Oklahoma.

Yeah, handled them. Handled them. And I said to see earlier, I think Tennessee, I think Ball's Country's got a lot to be excited about right now. Yeah. We'll find out October 19th. Alabama. Alabama.

I wonder who they had before then. Yeah, same. Same. There's no, we have no. Pull that we can't monitor or nothing. Yeah. But let's just assume they don't play Georgia or Ole Miss. They might though.

Before then? I think they do. Go ahead, pull that up. I'll just keep talking. All that to be said, I see Nebraska upsetting Ohio State in a few weeks, which makes me really excited. I think that's a big one. Ohio State deserves, they just paid for their, you know, they paid for their success. And that's not an admirable thing to have.

You're right. They go to Tennessee goes to Arkansas next week and then they host Florida and then Alabama. So yeah, they should handle business. They should handle business. They got to. Now, I know Florida's shit. I know that it's a bad ball club down there. I don't know exactly what town it is, but that's a trap game.

You think so? For Tennessee. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it is college ball. It's college ball. Florida's ass. Everyone knows their ass. No disrespect to the gators.

I think Napier's on the hot seat. They're looking at cleaning house. Yeah. And so it's kind of one of those things like Tennessee just better buck up for that one. Just do what they did to Chattanooga and be up 50 points at halftime. That's what you really really want to do. Jaya, we got out of it. We feel good about Nebraska.

We feel good about the fact that you went to your birthday party and you sat there on your phone the whole time? But again, we're in a position where this type of team, this outfit that we have, we could easily be in a spot later in the year to where we look back at this Illinois game and say that was the best thing that ever happened to us. Right, right. Michigan. I know you're right and high. Yeah. And you know what? You're writing high to where you're saying we're going to beat.

We're going to mop Oregon. We're going to, you know. Who else do you got? You know what's changing? Mop Illinois. You know how much my narratives change? It hasn't. It hasn't.

I literally said, I said two weeks ago on the podcast right after Texas. You're looking at a 10-1 football team going against Ohio State. Right now, everything I said plays. Okay. USC comes in. They put Orgy in. Now, Orgy, we played football on Saturday. and just pretended like the forward pass didn't exist.

We played... Well, the 400s football. Yeah. We played how to win a game. Our defense put the way to the way it did. I mean, you guys went two minutes real with the run game. And won. And won the game.

This Mullins, Mullins kid, this kid started 20 games at linebacker for the University of Michigan, then popped on over to the opposite side of the ball and is now the featured back. I feel terrible for Donovan Edwards. I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I think he's an absolute stud. be just fine. That being said, Mullins is the cat that's now tooting the rock, had that thing

30 times last game for 159 yards. The kid is our offense right now. A couple that in with a little RPO with Orgy. What we want, Minnesota, we want to take that step. We want Orgy. I want to see Orgy in the air a little bit more. I want to see him showing some short to intermediate passes. You don't need to take top off. I don't care about Top's right now. But this is where he's got to show some growth. Right. Because you guys, number one, the defense smacked USC in the mouth. the mouth. But talking real is you want to see Orgy make progress in the passing game because even though you guys can win games running the ball and playing tough defense like you just did, when you go against the organs of the world, I mean, I'll go ahead. Illinois is undefeated right now,

but Oregon's Ohio states of the world, you're going to have to be able to throw the football. Yeah, you're going to have to be able to throw the football. It'd be insane not to believe that you're not going to be down by 10 points at some point in the season. Right. And you have to have the ability to be multi-dimensional to be able to push the ball down the field and score points. I completely understand that. I think everybody walked into that game

with Michigan being four and a half point underdogs and expected a Texas Michigan game. Like USC... Oh, for sure. Yeah, I thought USC was going to... Everyone felt that way, and I felt the haters feeling that way. Everyone was looking their chops.

I know everybody in East Lansing was feeling so great, Columbus, Ohio. Everyone had that game turned on. I know everyone was ready... Not only was... Everyone was ready to put Michigan in the ground. They were, they were. Everyone was, but also combined, it wasn't just the hater mentality,

but also what you guys have shown up until the USC game was kind of like, damn, like, yeah, this is a massive fall right now. What they're showing, from what they've shown. You go Arkansas State. Went by 10. Yeah, you win by 10 points. It's like, damn, they might not have a squad this year. Yeah.

Because when Nick Merck was on, it's like, you know, we're going around and you're potentially thinking in your mind, this might be a five-loss mission team. Right. I know you, I know you weren't wavering. I didn't text Nick too because his bitch-ass opinions were terrible on the bus.

Right. Terrible. Like for him and his old man. Just, uh, but the good thing about his old man, his old man sat there. He was,

I want to believe what Taylor believes. I want that feeling. And it's like, brother, it's that easy. You just turn off logic in your head and you just move on. Yeah.

Turn off logic. That's what I've learned being a fan of football. You can't, you got to be able to find the will confidence spin. You have to find the optimism. Right. And right now.

In a world where everybody wants to feed into that hate and just be pessimistic about everything. Everything I've said about Michigan football post-Texis is still in play. Nothing has changed. Nothing has changed. 10 and 1 football team. Believe Jack McPherson between Naps said that they're going to have a hard time with Minnesota. That's crazy.

Yeah. That's a wild deal to me. At the time. Right. It wasn't too much of a reach. If you took a face value, just Illinois plays Nebraska and Illinois beats Nebraska. You think Nebraska is in a lot of trouble. Face value.

Right. Now move on. Now you look at the bigger picture. Could be a Nebraska, Michigan Big Ten championship game. Could be. It's far off. Could be. You never know.

Yeah, you never know. You guys upset Ohio State. Ohio State drops two of the three Oregon, Nebraska, Penn State. Again, cannot just skate by Indiana. Rutgers is also undefeated right now. Dave, Rutgers is number two on Dave's Big Ten rankings. That's wild. Two or three.

They're top five. They've been around for a while. They've been in the football game for a while. All to say, we can't just gloss over the Rutgers in Indiana game. Yeah. We just can't right now. Are you talking about Nebraska? Yeah.

Absolutely. Because you're saying we upset Ohio State. You're going like four weeks ahead right now. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm a 30,000-foot view fan of Nebraska. Like, I, to be pretty honest, if I didn't know you, I would probably never think about the University of Nebraska once in my life.

I know you. And now my algorithm's fucked up and it's only showing me Nebraska stuff. So Nebraska's constantly on my mind now. Yeah. I just look at it as a general fan being like, that's the game you have to worry about. Right, right, right, right. Because Iowa looks bad. I still think of Indiana as lesser than.

I think of Rutgers is lesser than. I think of Minnesota is lesser than. And it's just I didn't have a whole lot of success in college football as far as a team sport goes. But we handled those teams. Right. But they were played Rutgers. First Big Ten game I ever played. Right.

shootout against Indiana win that game. Yeah. So that's all I got to say about that. Yeah. You know? Yeah. It's a war, dude. And the good thing is, we're almost the halfway point of the college football war.

Yeah. And you're in a much better place this year than you were last year. The good thing is, neither of our teams are, we are not even close to touching any panic button. You guys weren't after Texas. We are not after Illinois. Right. A team that should be touching the panic button in my mind, we're moving to NFL right now. but the Tennessee Titans.

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is called Sport Clips. It's a game changer. Let's get back to this episode. I think before the year started, you know, there was people counted out Tennessee, which now it seems like they're being proved right. Yeah, five and a total. There's some optimism, some underappreciated, unseen optimism going on because of they're bringing these receivers. You got Bill Callahan. The mistake I made was assuming that Bill Callahan was just going to come in and fix the

offensive line. Knowing that it's still a very young offensive line, and there's going to be growing pains, I do feel like the way that Will Levis, I mean, there was like six sacks given up today. My man was knocked down about eight times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the deal. I'm not scared about the offensive line right now. They had a really bad second half, a really bad second half.

But paint the picture of why you're not scared with the offensive line. Because I think they've showed glimpses of hope. They have done a good job for the most part of the run game in the past game. This game, you can throw this one out the window. They had some very glaring mistakes by multiple players in that offensive line. The one that comes to my head is, I mean, Nicholas Petit Ferrer, he got a guy on a wide nine technique. He turns his shoulders and his hips. The guy makes an inside move, clean, not even touch, sack.

And I think that caused a fumble, which caused a turnover. Those types of things, if I'm Bill Callahan, if I'm Nick, like, I'm sure Nick right now is probably on suicide watching in his house. Because everyone's been there before. I've been there before. Every single offensive alignment who's had a bad game knows that, like, you don't have stats. The only stats you have are the things that are bad. and he had a tough one today, statistically. But the errors are so easily fixable.

It's so easy to fix one or two things. Hey, don't panic set. Don't turn your hips. And when you say you're talking about technique. Technique. I'm only talking about technique. Because that's what the offensive line is it's a mental game. It's a physical game.

And it's a technique game. You have to be able to be really good at all three of those to be successful. The easiest thing to fix is technique. And I just hope that these boys don't take all, like don't let. their confidence gets shut down. And the outside noise filtering because it's flooding in there right now. But that's the thing that last few years,

the coach that we always talk about, but it refused to say his name in the beginning, Keith Carter, like there was never a chance to gather confidence unless you already had that instilled in you from prior success or you're just built like that kind of cat. Now what they have now, Callahan, you saw them in the first couple of games, firing on more cylinders than they have been in the past,

doing a great job of changing sets up, changing punches up, passing off games and slides. I think this is a great game for Bill Call on the show how good of a coach he is by establishing the confidence back in those guys that had a tough game. And then working on the technique on the football field. Because the stuff that I saw from Nick and J.C. And those guys is like, it's so fixable. It's so fixable.

There's one that J.C. had that. I was going to say, how do you feel like you've been watching J.C. a little bit? How do you feel like he's been so far? I think J.C., we have to remember he's a rookie. The kid's an absolute unit of a human being. But he, there's just little things that are so fixable that he will learn over time. I think the kid from what I can tell is a good head on his shoulders. But he had one today where the guy ran the hoop on him, ran all the way around and got the sack.

And what J.C. did was he got to the point of no return where he thought he did his job. And as the guy ran around, he kind of stopped on the play. And that's when Will Levis got out of a sack from pressure in the middle. came forward and then that guy finished. Those are the little things you realize, okay, this isn't, this isn't college, you've got to finish a lot longer

than you expect to and keep going to the echo of the whistle. All those things fixable. None of those things are panic button city. The things I did not like from the Titans today, like sums up with Will, and we're very pro Will Levis on this show. I love Will.

Everything I'm saying is truly out of a, just a critical eye. He's got the yips right now. He's forcing too much stuff. He's putting the pressure of himself. He wants to prove he's the man. Instead of just being like last year, we saw him thrust into a starting role because of an injury.

You kind of play with nothing to lose. Yeah, you play with nothing to lose. You play with house money. It's like, okay, you're a rookie. No one expects you to do well. You weren't the start in the beginning of the year. There's zero expectation on you. You go out and you have a game you did against the Falcons in his first start.

He does such a great job. He moves around the pocket. He doesn't lower his shoulder. it's like, oh shit, we kind of got a guy. Now we spend the whole entire offseason or like the only people that are excited are the people within Nashville, Tennessee. The small regional fan base

is so stoked on Will Levis. Part of me feels he listened to the cheers a little too hard. He got a little excited. Or just feels that expectation puts the pressure on himself. Right, and that's what I mean by feeling the cheers a little bit because when you have a piece of success

in the NFL and we've all had it and you kind of like chew on it for a little bit. yo this feels fucking nice that people think i'm the fucking man everybody loves that feeling or you feel like and or also you feel like you have to do that much more right and i think that comes when the season ends with will last year you you enjoy that success you enjoy that confidence you've had but once you get to that june or july slot that's when you start to be like i've got to prove x y and z to take the next step to show that oh it wasn't a fluke i am the man now you're putting way too much pressure on yourself when before we all know this you just got to stay here you can't be

doing this can't be doing that you just got to stay right here baby and keep that thing moving and i just feel like he's pressing the issue way way way too much and if will just took a minute took a deep breath realize he has all all the talent all the characteristics he came to be a good quarterback then he goes and does that but the mental game is very difficult sometimes especially when things are going your way when you're o and three now somebody tweeted this to me today or tweeted it and then puts on the Instagram. It said, bring back Vrabel.

And it's like, bro, that shit's got to stop right now. I am so sick of people pulling the fire alarm in the first moment of chaos. You go 0 and 1. A, it is what it is.

You go 0 and 2. It's like, okay, well, you played the Jets. A couple, yeah. And then 0.N3 happens. And now everyone's like, should have kept Vrable. Now, I will say this. And this is not a shot at Callahan.

But if you have Mike Vrable as the head coach right now, it's likely that the Titans are two and one. Only reason why I'm saying that is Mike Vrable established a culture and he got guys with lesser talent to win games late in the game and do the right things. That does not mean that Brian Callahan is a bad coach. I think Brian Callahan is the right man to have in this position, especially the way football is going right now. Derek Henry was getting older.

You couldn't just rely on the run 24-7. you knew that train was going to end. It's like selling a stock right before the peak. You're getting out, you're cashing out. I totally understand that. We have to give Brian Callahan opportunity to instill his culture and his mindset of what he wants. These are not things that are just going to happen immediately day up. Like they're just going to keep the Mike Vrable attitude and then add on whatever Brian wants.

That stuff that's, it's unrealistic, it's illogical and it's ridiculous. So if you're a Titans fan, you're like, bring back. Vrabel. Right now your record would probably be better of Vrable, but we're talking about long-term R-O-I. And I think Brian Callahan is that guy. You just got to give it some opportunity for him to instill. Hey, if it's a shitty year, here's the good news. You get a great draft pick. Now, you had a quarterback that I know people are thinking, oh, maybe not. You had a quarterback with all the attributes to be successful. You got a- With a year in the system. You got two top 15 picks on the left side of your offensive line. You got Dylan Radins, who's playing a hell of a lot

better. You got a center who has paid $50 million in his good ball player. You got NFP who's only growing more to his own. You got a nasty defense. You got a nasty defense. You've got receivers. You got two great running backs. Like you have the tools but you can have all the ingredients to make a pie. But if you don't have

the right tools to make the pie, then it's going to be a shit pie. Right. So we just got to give that time. This year I don't know. I don't know what to say. They got one more game. The good news is they play the dolphin sticks. week. And the dolphins have

not been looking good. Yeah. They have either a home game or do they go to Indy? I think they go by and then they go to Indy. Okay, so they have a buy week. They have a buy.

They have a buy. They kind of sucks. Yeah, that kind of sucks. Early buy. However, reset, especially if you get back on track with Miami. It's a massive game

because again, the South is still pretty wide open. I mean, the Texans lost a day to the Vikings, who Vikings, by the way. Sam Donald, bro. He is operating.

Just a resurgence of life. Yes, they can run the ball well, they can throw the ball well, that, defense under Flores is playing well. So the South is wide open. You have to get back on track and win this game against Miami. Yeah.

Lick your wounds with the bi-week, re-valuate. And then you play Indy, which Indy isn't, you know, they have their own issues as well. They have their own issues, no doubt. And like, yeah, with Houston losing today, AFC South's wide open. And to say like, hey, we're going to go and win the AFC South now, it's like, listen, just improve on the errors. Let's just win the game. Let's just win a game.

Let's just win a game and let's let's keep it moving forward. So for all the people, all the Tennessee Titan fans out there that are watching the show and are pressing the panic button Politely go fuck yourself for right now. I mean that a respectfully way trying to be funny, but like It's stop. Way too early. It's way too early and it's okay. A lot of new players, new staff, like it's still, yeah, it's still very early. Like, you know what?

Let's say it's worst case scenario. Great, we have the first overall pick. Like, and now you have more tools. More case scenario, which is over 17. Yeah, worst case scenario. Let's just say, let's just say what's number one. do need to unfortunately we're not on the bus and we can't hold jack accountable jack did say he would kill himself if malique willis won his revenge game in in the son stadium did you say jack needs to kill

himself i think there needs to be some type of accountability whether maybe hey maybe you a couple weeks ago when the guy said he would eat dog shit yeah maybe jack does something i think he needs to do something for some good juju because if not yeah it could put some bad a bad omen on the titans because i think jack in a lot of ways has kind of become a front man for the Titans fan base, given the platform he has on busing. Brought back the pain train. Brought back the pain train.

Yeah, all those things. He just seems like he has the loudest voice of all Titans fans. And I think he does, yeah, some accountability. If you're going to leave from the front, you got to leave from the front. Right, exactly. So maybe there needs to be a punishment involved. I won't go as far to say you need to kill yourself, Jack, but let's figure something out. I texted him right after I said, I'll say some really nice words for you at your funeral.

Yeah, I do your eulogy. Yeah, dude, I mean Jack's got to pay the Piper a little bit Yeah, we need something out of Jack What else? What else is going on in the NFL world? We got a... Jets look good? Jets look damn good.

Aaron Rogers is back and I That's another thing too When people are like Aaron, he's done It's like, what are you talking about? He's, yeah. He's just so dumb. It's so dumb. Their defense was playing well

Now granted it was the Patriots Right. But they have the pieces on defense. It's won the first game. That's got to feel good. That's got to feel real good. But Aaron Rogers with Brees Hall,

Garrett Wilson, even Mike Williams, he returned from, they got him in free agency, he came from the Chargers friend of the show. He looked good. So another weapon to go with him, Lazard, but yeah, the Jets,

the Jets could be picking it up. Just got a little something going. That fires me up because they're like, I don't know when the world became so 50-50 on Aaron Rogers of like not liking him and liking him. Well, you know, probably all the political stuff that Aaron gets out there on. Yeah, but who does it?

I don't agree. No. I'm with you, but you know how you, you know how fans are. They want you to love your football. Yeah, yeah. Shut up and throw.

Shut up and throw. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but the thing too is, here's what I like about Aaron Rogers from out off, off outside of football. He questions things. And it's,

who made it wrong to be curious about things instead of just taking stuff at face value? I wish I was more like that. People will just tell me shit. I'll see shit on Instagram, be like, yep, fact. It could be one way or the other. And I'll just look at you and be like, yep, that's exactly going to be the identity that I choose to project for me for the rest of the week.

Aaron chooses to question all these things. And he's an admirable candidate in my mind. I think he's a he's a cool, well-rounded cat. I mess with it. And he throws the football very well. Those are tight spiral. Yeah, he does. Those are tight ones.

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You did a 5K? today. Did you really? Yeah. Walked the last night. And something we glossed over that we didn't spend really any time on, but the genius that Coach LaFleur has at Green Bay. I mean, Malik Willis, winning games with Malik,

and I'm not saying like Malik's a terrible quarterback by any means, but I think everybody would assume that when they lost your love, that they were going to pop off two in a row and be flying around like they are. and him taking care of the football like he is and building an offensive plan that fits him and adapting to the players he has on the roster. I feel like Lafleur, you know, whether he gets a lot of credit,

I think he doesn't get enough credit because going to a no since losing Jordan Love, I feel like it's not, especially because they got Malik, like, what, three weeks ago? Three weeks ago from the Titans, the team they just beat. Right. Which is another thing that is fucking blasphemous. what does Malik Willis do, Willis do, Will.

He runs. He runs the ball. He's not a guy that is going to, like, at least from the time I was there, he was not a guy that dissected the coverages and understood where his hot routes were and stuff like that. And where his, you know, line was sliding to and moving to. So you have the blueprint of a guy that's been in your building for entire camp to see, oh, we should trade this guy. This is why we're going to trade this guy.

And then you let that guy beat you. the defensive game plan to me was nuts. Yeah. Just crazy. Like how is Malik Will is going to hurt you? Because he's going to hurt it by extending plays and using his feet. The fact that they have rushers going around him, no coordinated rushes, not a whole lot of spies, not running a whole lot of games. Like, to me, that was just insane.

Yeah. Because if you made him one dimensional, like, hey, we're going to keep his cat in the pocket and make him throw the ball, it would have been a whole lot better. But when you're allowing him to run and do all the things he has, now he's had the opportunity to throw these intermediate throws. and he had nice touch. Yeah. He looked really good today. Yeah, bro. Really good.

Like, again, Lafleur, having the creativity with the screen game, building play action, like putting Malik in positions to win. And him taking advantage of the opportunity. Because, again, it's like, okay, when you see them beat Indianapolis last week is Malik's first game. So there's really not a whole lot to operate off of. You don't know what kind of game playing you're going to get. You can assume that it's going to be Malik, you know, them running the ball 30 plus times with Josh Jacobs. but going into Tennessee,

it's like now you have a week of film to kind of prepare. Like no way they're going to get away with doing stuff like this again. But again, like just speaking to that creativity from Lafleur, I just feel like flowers need to be said and given.

As much as we want to critique and pull apart all the tightness. Yeah, because we were based in Nashville. Right, we are based in Nashville. I'm glad you rang me back in because you started with giving Matt flowers and then I just critique the Titans. Yeah, yeah, you're like the divvy

but also like, yeah. Dude, I mean Matt, he was OC for one year of the Titans and he was so great and the Packers were like, we got to have this guy. Yeah. And he's proven to be the dude over and over again strategically using his players. It's like, okay, yeah, Aaron Rogers, of course they were going to be

successful. Jordan Love, damn, they got lucky again, they found another one. But then Jordan Love goes down and you got a backup in Malik who just showed up with a backpack on. Right. And you think to yourself like, exactly what you said. The Colts go and they think, oh, they're going to run the ball 30 times and then Malik has a good game

and they end up winning the game and that's like, that usually happens once and then they start to get figured out because there's a week of film and you start to understand the strengths and weaknesses kind of like how I view of the Panthers right now like they come and they get their win

and it's like a lot of times with a quarterback change or an interim head coach you fire a coach and the interim head coach ins comes in usually that team for whatever reason just wins the next week I have no idea why the locker room just rallies around the back of quarterback

for whatever reason and it's like the Panthers are still dead like it's just no shot it's not happening Andy Dalton, dude, I'm stoked for him. Right. That's awesome.

I can't believe the Raiders dropped that one, man. I know. And they got handled too, which was surprising. They go across the country and get a massive win against the Ravens, big time underdogs. You think they're hosting Carolina. Carolina's now got to travel across the country. And it seems like their organization was blowing up because they bench Bryce Young. Kind of out him.

They go with Andy Dalton. And they go in and drop one against the Panthers, bro. You see Antonio Pierce after the game? Yeah, I did. was a badass quote right as the game went along it seemed like guys started to make business decisions we will make business decisions moving forward as well yeah i don't know if that's sound the alarm there should be a little bit of a panic button that you're saying something that that quote is a quote in week three of the NFL yeah you know what i mean usually you're thinking usually

you get something like that back half the year if you're kind of out of it we're going to see who's really who really wants to play football who really loves football you know those speeches if apes about that business someone's getting cut on Monday. Yeah. I better see per Adam Schefter someone getting cut from the Raiders. Right. I better see that.

Right. And you know with AP too, like the way that kind of culture, that leadership is, like he wouldn't just say that unless they all kind of identified a player or two that they're thinking about. They're like,

we got to get this guy out of here. I wish I did a better job watching that game because I was at the Titans game today. Yeah. For like the first time and forever. But yeah, dude, it's, you've got to, like the thought, it's just crazy to me that dudes do that.

make business decisions. Yeah. I would love to know which player or two, however many, whoever he's thinking about and kind of go watch that, yeah. Max would tell us. Yeah. Max would tell us. Who was it?

Go check the All-22 and then see a couple of these plays. Yeah. Because, you know, I mean, if a coach is saying that now, again, I don't know if it's like, this is bad news for the season or this is like they've identified, they're getting rid of the poison in the locker room and it'll be beneficial. I'm sure it'll be beneficial. Sounds like AP's going to cut the grass and find the,

the snakes. Right. That's what he wants to do. Right. Because you can't be having that poison in the locker room, bro. You can't be having dudes getting small groups talking shit. Yeah. That's how losers work. Yeah. Right? Old rabe. Old rabelism. Dude, we saw it with his quotes, man. I'll give him that. Yeah.

I will give him that. Always stuff with his quotes. But yeah, dude, he just, I hope that, I want the Raiders to be successful so bad because I think that's such a great franchise. And a dude like Max, who who's just a killer. You know, just lays it on the line every Sunday. Sunday every day.

And Bobby Spillane. I want to give some love to Bobby Spillane. Yeah. I love football. I love football. I love it. Dude plays with his hair on fire because I was watching their game. I was breaking down their game on the old All-22 last week, then versus the Ravens.

And old Spleasy, man. He plays, bro. Like that, huh? Yes. Plays hard, man. It makes plays. Put me on game with his All-22. It's like watching the iPad.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So NFL Plus premium. Hey, no free shout-outs NFL Plus premium. Yeah. But you get on there, you can watch basically the coaches tape. You can watch the side angle, the back angle, and it's like watching film. Oh, I mess with that. I just started doing it last weekend.

Low-key, I'm kind of falling, just falling in love with that. You just feel like you're back in the film. I'm like actually breaking down situations. Yeah, so do you have on your phone? Yeah. Oh, so you can just watch film on your phone. Tablet, laptop, whatever. Yeah, you can watch it.

Like, if I pull up my phone right now, we could watch the All-22. Did you see? So, talking about subscriptions and everything, Did you see the stat that came out about to watch every single NFL game this year? It's like your monthly bill is like $399 a month. No. I mean, they got me because I got a ball.

The streams have finally got us. The streaming era. Because remember like it was like Netflix came out and it was like you get this. It's $8 a month and you get all these movies. And they're like, well, we're going to do it too, but we get these movies instead. And now it's like. And you're thinking, okay, for probably a total like 30, 40 bucks. Like I'll just get these streaming services and get rid of cable.

Yeah, which we all did. I remember when you told me you got rid of cable, I was thinking myself. Apple, I don't want to watch cable. Literally, I think two weeks later, I called, I was like, hey, shut it down. We're done here. Yeah. Yeah. But now, the door hitching the ass on the way out.

Now they got us. Now we're fucking. We're going to go back to cable. You've got to have basically every streaming. I know, because it's the platform. It's the Peacock. Because it feels like every platform is bought some type of game. I know.

Even Netflix got a game this year. Oh, we got Thursday night. This one's on Sunday. Oh, the holidays this year. It's going to be on this platform. Monday night football here. Yeah, yeah. Hey, there's rumors out there about Netflix.

I might be doing that game. Do what? Netflix has a game on Christmas. Did you say you might be doing that game? Yeah. What do you mean? Like there's, like, I'm on a short list right now. Of doing the game, like color commentating?

Not color commenting, but probably sideline. Oh. It's kind of nice, right? Boys in with the Netflix? I think it'd be kind of sick to do one game color commentating. One game. I think you'd be great at it. I think so, too.

I mean, if Tom got 300 mil, like, throw me two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'll be one game. I'm just saying, I like to check that out. You could call a game, especially if you're prepared. You're prepared you can do it. Yeah.

It's easy money. You're like a dad. You're prepared you can do anything you want. Yeah, but I just, I know my boy. Yeah, I mean, we did that little, that playoff thing. You had your ESPN debut. Well, not debut. You've been on it before, but you were at the desk doing first take.

Yeah, the first take was the most intimidating thing, especially when you get on the monitor and you see the king himself, Stephen A. Smith right there. Yeah. And I just think to myself. Get up and first take. Yeah. Get up.

Crush it there. Do we talk about that? No, because we've been away, bro. No, I saw you the next week. No, we were away. What? That was week one. Maybe we did.

Yeah, we kind of, maybe didn't even talk about it. There's been some things we missed. There's some things we missed. There's rumors. We got to Jersey retired, you know, high school. I know, bro. That's got to be so sick. And the key of the city?

Yeah. Can I tell you something? I wish it was a key. It is. I know. No, I wish it was like an actual key in like a glass box. Like one of those cool like 1800s keys like truly, you know? But you ain't going to do like even if you had just a true key.

It's not like you're like unlocking the door anywhere. I know, but I just kind of was hoping it would be a metal key. Not your basic janitor key, but like an old school like. Yeah. I don't know. I think of British people like in London with his big ass keys. Like that's what I was thinking of. Yeah.

But it's still dope. Yeah. The symbolism of it all is sick. I mean, it was crazy. Yeah. It was crazy just because, like, I forget if I said this on last week's episode, I don't think I did. But the place where we grew up, like Bon Terre, Missouri.

Yeah. And knowing that I did the ceremony on Friday night, I went to the RJFL, my community of football league that I grew up playing in on Saturday morning. And Dave, the owner of that league, he was saying a lot of nice things I guess. gave a little speech and everything like that. Nice. But just knowing to go back on that weekend and kind of have like a full circle moment, just knowing the place that we grow up, I was kind of telling the parents and the kids,

like we don't grow up close to an NFL team or a college team. We had the Rams that was over an hour away. You have the Mizzou Tigers. They're about three hours away out in Columbia. But you don't have direct access to athletes that you grow up watching on TV. Your inspiration comes from the guys you watch on TV and the voice. varsity football team. Like I had a poster of Jeremy McDowell, who was our quarterback, who went to the 1997

state championship. My parents won this poster, this frame poster at an auction. There's this photo where he's just, he's in his pads and he's just holding the ball, like his little individual photo. No shit. It hung up over my bed growing up. PJ Jones was a linebacker I wanted to play like because he had the records and everything else.

But you grow up being inspired by the guys you watch on TV in the NFL, obviously, and then the varsity football team. And to come all the way back, your boy just turned 35, and to be speaking to the league that I grew up, like playing on the same grass that they did, and getting the key to the city, the Jersey retired,

and all that stuff, and knowing that I am one of those guys that those kids look up to is a super cool thing that I definitely do not take for granted. And it was just a very cool full circle moment for your boy. It really was.

That's fucking awesome, dude. Tor, if I went any longer here, a little, little emotion could probably hit the old eyeballs. You know what I mean? Yeah, we can't have that. Dude, there is nothing better than high school football. There's not.

And for anybody to think differently, man, like, I went to two different high schools and I cherish both of those high schools. You got to go back. You went back to a game this past Friday night. And I actually wanted to ask you this question because a part of me, like, felt weird. Like, even when I went to the Titans game today, I felt weird too. Because you think about, like, you know, you watch TV and stuff like that and you watch like high school football TV shows or whatever

and there's always like the guy who graduated five years ago still comes to all the games. Yeah. And even though like I'm 33 years old and I have not been back in Arizona in so long, going out, I kind of felt like, you know, maybe someone was like, what are you doing? Yeah.

And I shook it off because it was so cool to go on like, the Catch Shadows Falcons are 3 in O right now and they were playing Boulder Creek, which was like a division above them. And they smacked the shit out of them actually. It was like, they were tied at 14 when I got there and they're up three scores by like halfway through the third. Yeah.

And it's like, it's cool, man, because you literally look at the field that they're playing on and you look at the stands. And even though things are not the same, it's like, I did, like my journey started at the same place

that these kids are starting right now that I'm literally twice, twice of some of their ages. And it's just cool to like, see them look over and tap somebody's shoulder and be like, I stay on the one. Yeah. And that to me was like,

I was like, that is so, it's just surreal. Yeah. So like, we had the, conversation. I don't know if I talked about it, but October 18th, I'm being put in the Catcher Chattas Hall of Fame. Let's go. First one. First guy ever in Catch Chetis Hall fame, by the way. First inductee.

And I believe his name is Rob Gilmore. I need to double check his name on my phone, but he like reached out to me and told me I met him for the first time. They're doing like this parade on Friday morning. He's like, hey, if you can get there, we'd love for you to be like, uh, what's it called? What's it called? What's a thing called when you're like a homecoming king? No. It's like a, uh, you're going to get Oh, the grand marshal, grand marshal of like their float or whatever. Yeah. And he asked me to know, I'm thinking of myself, yeah, they'd be sick,

but also probably of me was like, these kids are going to be looking like a 33 year old waving. Like that's kind of, but dude, I know, I know, I know, I know,

I know, I know. Like, everything you're saying, you're about to say, like, trust me, I had to have that conversation of myself. Because for whatever reason,

it's not ego. It's like a, it's almost like you just, hey, I just don't want to be too much the center of attention, even though you guys are technically celebrating me. It is weird because you go back to a familiar spot. And while they, like while I'm watching the game,

I see a lot of familiar faces, like guys, people I went to school with. And they're coming up and like, hey, my son, he wants a photo with you. And there's a, there's a weird part because it's like you know, you know those people that you went to school with and they're, you know, they're there. And I feel like it's just like an internal, like insecurity thing of just feeling like it's, you're too much of the center of attention around people that you, you knew very well at one point in time.

You almost play the mind game of like, are they talking shit? Like, are they being like, look at them. Yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

That's really cool though, bro. Yeah, it's sick. Because again, if I'm a kid, bro, like I would be looking up to you just as well. Like, I want to accomplish. I want to be the same person. Like, he did it. I want to be another guy who did it.

Right. Not a lot of people get to do it. I want to do that. Like, you're an inspiration. You know what I mean? You're a motivation. No, it's crazy. it's a wild deal

and like you going back like you already got inducted the Hall fame that you've been there done that that's your first first ballot with that first ballot

and but now you're like the Jersey retirement the key all that's like you've essentially reached the pinnacle of success of

every high schooler like that is unbelievable because everybody wants the gold jacket right every like which three years

we'll see where I'm at you'll see you know eligible for the whole thing right right right Right, right. And then everybody obviously college, Hall of Fame, all that stuff, they want to remember with their college, but like, dog high school. Yeah, you do it in high school. There's just nothing better than high school. Because high school, it's like, that's when it's at its purest form of football, of sports.

Yeah. People, the boys legit, just playing ball. Yeah. And like the love of the game, chasing a dream. Shadows, dude, their fans were packed. I know, you guys got to be, you guys got a high school that loves their high school football. Yeah. And it's just, it was just really cool. And I'm super grateful for it. I'm stoked for you. Like that was, it's just like, it's just dope.

Yeah. It's awesome. And I gotta, I gotta shake off whatever that, you know, and I tell you what was weird too is all these little kids running around. They're in high school.

Because you, like, I was with Nick Bennett, who we were talking about earlier. And Nick, he would, he would catch a shout-up to me too. And he's like,

bro, you know what's crazy? He's like, all these kids walking around, look how young they look. And he's like, it'd be crazy for you and me to think that we didn't look that young either.

When we were that kid. It's crazy. Seeing you're like, man, some grew up braces comes up to me. Was the game this slow back when I played, it felt like it was just bullets flying everywhere. Bullets flying. And they do.

They look so much younger. It's like there's, we, you felt like you were like a man as a senior in high school. Right. I just even walking through the stands and like the kids' student section. Like I just to myself, I was like,

I shouldn't be in this area. Like I feel like I'm going to catch a case. Like, you know, just being too close. And it's just, you know, it's just,

it felt so weird like, oh, you're old. Bro, that's what you are. You're just an old guy now. And you come back and we live the glory days. What's funny too is that Catat Shadows. I was ass.

I was actually terrible at football there. Cactus Shadows was that the first school? Because your Sheparral was my second. That's when I had that crazy, insane three months or whatever, or three weeks. But yeah, I was like not even good at Cactus. I was never the best player on my football team. Right. When you were on the D-Line, you're on the wrong side of the line of screen.

Yeah, obviously there was some issues. Shout out, shout to Grady. for fucking everything up. But still, bro, it's just, it's crazy to go and, like, see, like, you're talking to the parents and you're sitting in a place where you're like, I used to talk to those kids. Like, I used to be hanging out with those kids. And now I'm at a place where I'm talking to the parents. Yeah.

And I identify more with the parents, obviously. Right. And it's just crazy. Yeah. You know, everybody wants to be McConaughey from Days in Confused. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it, man. It was not for me.

What, uh, do you how much time we've been rocking here, bro? Oh, we got to tighten it up. We got to tighten it up. Is there anything else we want to talk about? We said Michigan's awesome. As you look up transition, just to let the people know, we're doing this collaboration. We got the spit-chickles boys coming up in a collaboration interview.

We haven't had the interview yet. However, we already know it's going to be electric. Paul Bissonette, Biz Nasty, Ryan Whitney. Last time we did an episode with them was on their show, and we all got baked right before. Yeah, it was so far. I'm down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Your boy is down. Your boy's down to do that. We should definitely do that. Yeah, we're going to get, so this episode you're going to watch. Because we've had them on separately on Bustin with the boys, but never both of them at the same time. But when we went on spitting, we got high. Yeah. So when you guys see us with them, we're going to be high.

We're being high instead. Anything else on this sheet that we didn't touch? Yes, there's one thing, dude. And I cannot believe. It's staring at me. I cannot believe. I didn't bring this up at the top of the show. This is the last episode before Spooktober.

Now listen to me, guys. I've given you the spiel before about when the weather takes, the weather goes down, you get out of the house and you feel the breeze, you walk back in the house, you put the hoodie on, the leaves are starting to fall and you just feel, you see a pumpkin next to you and you literally get chills. The pumpkin patches are starting, bro. You know they're coming and it's so exciting. Every year for the past five years, Spooktober, sucked ass.

Well, we had a good year. I want to say it might have been the COVID year was a solid year. No, I told me, but we were having some good fun up until that point. I told half of Spooktober because I think I told it. No, no, no. It was in like October 25th is when I tore my ACL. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had a good solid Spook-Tover.

We had some good vibes. That's what we played the Bills on Tuesday night too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, with the Michael Myers mask around the facility. So in the last four years, Sputober has kind of been shit. This year. This is the year it changes for us.

It's our year. It's our year. And here's what I will, I know it's going to be a great year. And let me tell you why. When we go to Oregon for Oregon, Ohio State, we get there on Friday. We're going to go to a haunted house in Oregon. Okay. We've got to.

Say promise right now. I promise. Yes. And any Oregon fans out there listening, please drop in the comments like where we should go haunted house-wise. Got to go haunted house. And then listen, it's not that hard. Every single day, I'm going to give you the ground rules for spook-tober.

October is now spook-tober. Like, it's October is dead. That's a non-negotiable. It's a spook-tober. Every day, you need to watch something spooky. Now it could be something as simple as a Disney Channel original movie, Halloween town. Great.

Or you could literally jump all the way up. to the exorcism or a demonic type shit. Everything in between. And you're probably thinking like some of these movies like, not insidious, but like Shutter Island. Not considered a horror movie, but there's got some spook to it too, Leonardo DiCaprio.

That counts. And you don't have that one for the whole time, but maybe a nice little snippet. And again, you can even hit your Charlie Browns of the world. You don't have to just scare yourself all the time. And if we were living back in the world for Arizona, it was 35 and 37,

Disney Channel Nickelodeon, they have a nice themed cartoons going on at all times that are all spooked. which is really nice. Another thing too, and this is more for you than it is for us, take some time out of your week to enjoy something fall. To get you,

and it's not about, Spooktober is not about checking boxes. It's about making memories to look forward to for the next year. It's about going to a pumpkin patch and being like, I had a great time going with my girlfriend, wife, kids to the pumpkin patch.

I can't wait to do it again next year. Right. I'm going to get that pumpkin patch. pumpkin spice latte I know I shouldn't there's a lot of sugar in there there's a lot of X Y and Z I'm on a diet but you know what dude

I'm looking forward to this and I'm only going to have it during Sputte over just once a week you got to embrace the spook somehow once a week whether like you're saying going to a haunted house going to a pumpkin patch buying yourself a pumpkin spice latte it's incredible whatever it is

indulge in something that embraces the festivities that are spooktober yeah dude if you're on Washington And then also throw a little decoration. That's rule number four. Gotta have decoration. Throw a little decoration. I got to hold myself accountable.

You need to because would you do last year? I had pumpkins last year. So if you just... That's the bare minimum. That is the bare minimum. Honestly, which is all you need. But as somebody who's going to stand on the front lines with my boy, you're right. I have to hold myself accountable.

I have to hold myself to a higher standard. But all that being said, rule number four, throw some decoration up somewhere in the house. So throw some decorations in the house, dude. That is... And literally it's about just the start of the holiday. season. It's the first kickoff because before you know it, boys and girls, you're going to blink and Santa's going to be at your house.

Oh, please do not skip over Thanksgiving. No, I say you're going to blink. That's getting you towards the end. Okay. Yeah, but Thanksgiving's fire. Yeah. Thanksgiving needs its time. Yeah.

So, dude. We need to figure out a shirt, too, for Spookover. Yeah. Sooner rather than later. Yeah. Yeah. We've had some bangers, though, in the last few years. I know.

I think I packed one. I think I packed one when we were coming out to Chicago. But yeah, dude. Fun pod. Got nostalgic. Talk some ball. Got to get back into my conversation in my head of, do you go diesel or not?

And how much is we're going to judge you? Good intro. Very good intro. You'll see us again on Thursday morning when the locker room. That's where we preview our football for the weekend. Who do you guys got this weekend, Michigan? We got the Minnesota Gophers. Minnesota Gophers.

Nebraska obviously. Cool mascot. Yeah, who knows. Yeah, cool mascot. We got the bullet. But we will be previewing all that stuff on the locker room. that show drops every Thursday morning where we preview we talk ball we talk gambling picks and again we have a fan calling segment did you see our fan calling segment last week i didn't it was

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want to talk about? Let's do this. Let's fucking roll baby. Yeah, yeah. How sick are these shoes? Oh, they're awesome. I mess with these a lot. I love. We're wearing the same shoes right now. I love these shoes. I love these shoes. I want to give you guys a disclaimer. So on the intro

Will and I were like Remember when we did the Chiglitz podcast We all just got banged up in Florida I gotta do it again So for everybody who thought we'd keep our promise We're hot Don't do Don't do

Dude He's like I gotta eat too Yeah bro and Did I kill us To get ready for this podcast You're like hey let's just Do this And then I delayed it for 35 minutes

You just bring a full plate of food And I was thinking to myself My God he's really living the dream right now Oh yeah I mean look at him He's got the The shower robot. Oh,

You're always comfy, Biz. He dresses comfy. Got to be comfy. Confzy and like marches by like a beat of his beat of his own drum. Yeah,

and can also I say where... Oh, are we on recording right now? Yeah, we're recorded. Oh, we're fucking... We already started the podcast. I was like, when are we hitting the fucking play button? I figured once he kind of mentioned

the intro to last their episode with us is we're going to get high with him and then he said we're high. Jesus Christ. Biz also has the ability to, like, he can wear anything and pull it off. Like there's outfits he can wear that if I wore

People would be like, what the fucks this? He's got the juice, bro. Yeah. Biz has got the juice, really? He's got the flare. This is very kind of you guys to start up this episode with a nice tire pop. You might get me a kill on this.

A residual, as they say. A residual. Hey, I'm going to be honest with you, but we're like 98% men. Oh. Oh, you think tricklets is any lower than that? What about the puck bunnies? I don't think they're listening. listening to a podcast from Bizz and Whit.

Yeah, okay, so let me just, let me phrase this. Maybe from Bid. You're cute. You're cute. When I was at Michigan, there was like, the puck bunny thing was so real. Like, there was just a group of girls

that were just all about the hockey boys. Was that for, like, that for y'all, like coming up? Yeah, like, it wasn't, uh, in junior where I played, it wasn't crazy. I think if you played for like the London nights and you're, and you're living in London, Ontario, where Western University is, it would have been crazy. Witt went to college, so maybe it was a little different in

college but fuck man and junior we had like curfew and shit we weren't even allowed to go to bars like especially when i was playing in sag in michigan drinking age was 21 like i was i was 17 18 and then turn 19 and then i was off to owen sound and buddy their owen sound is not where you go to meet women i'll just put it that way owen sound does not so obviously like football girls right yeah but i feel like there's just like different types like how I feel like football. Hockey games are better in sports. Hockey's better in sport to witness and watch than football.

Yeah, if we're going to change the subject to that, I agree. You agree? It's made for TV, so it's like maybe these girls enjoy like the live action. Bro, if hockey was more enjoyable to watch and they'd be crushing it in viewership. No, no, no, no, hockey is more fun to watch in person. Football is better to watch. My fault. I can't stand going to a live NFL.

That's on me. Hey, I went to a couple NFL games. You can't go to a live NFL game? It's brutal. Hey, they're brutal. Brutable. They're slow. product on TV is so much better

and that's why it is what it is. Okay, tell me this, there's 5 million timeouts. I get it, all the TV dough. There's very rarely in the NFL of good games. They're all blowouts, it feels like. So at least on TV, you're just clicking around, you're watching other games.

When you're at a game that there's 5 million timeouts and it's a blowout, it's like, this is not good. In my opinion. It's not a terrible take. It really isn't. Yeah, but on TV, it's unbelievable. Exactly. Exactly.

Exactly. That's all it matters. That's all it matters. Well, that's why it makes so much money. Hockey does not transfer over on television nearly as well as it is in person. It's like it's not even the same. Is there like a reason for that, you think? Well, they've tried to experiment with different camera angles and stuff.

And I just, it just doesn't work. You got to keep the original kind of pan at a certain level. And like in the NFL, you guys have those zip lines above. So it's almost like you're in the huddle and then it zips out. And then you're seeing, it's crazy. the technology and how they're able to do it. Hockey, they just, they haven't found a way. They've spent money.

They've had universities do trials. And it's too, it's because of the speed of the game and the constant movement, it's too much for the viewer. It almost like confuses them to the point where they're like, I got a fucking headache watching this. Like even Witt, they started doing the behind the net cam on the power play. And they would go and they would kind of just rotate it.

And even people complained about that. I didn't mind that angle. but it just, I mean, hockey's going to keep doing growing and being better in the States. I just think that it doesn't transfer over quite the bite that the NFL has. Has the NHL ever experimented with like a sky cam? Where they have it like trail behind and then have maybe like two cameras on both sides so they can follow the puck from top. There is something like that now where a camera rips along the above the glass.

And I think, I think it's pretty good actually. but the biggest thing would be NFL is so like the hits and how fast these guys are. It's incredible. And the cameras right down on the field. You see the replays. They got the full speed replays where you hear the crashes. Hockey because of the boards on TV, you don't see how fast they're going. But that's why if people go sit front row, like my father-in-law got tickets now behind the Bruins net,

and he's like, I cannot believe the speed and the size of these guys. but on TV it doesn't show. So that's why in person, I mean, I think the board's aspect is the biggest thing. You can't get right there like those cameras on the field in the effort. But hockey's in a great spot,

but I was going to say about football, I saw it today. I think Dante Barstow did a blog about the product being bad but how the numbers are, they're skyrocketing still, the NFL and the viewership and the money. It's like.

It's become like a show. It's become like the TV is like an event. Hockey is just pure when you watch. 82 games. But hockey on games, like, you don't really get a full understanding of how fast everyone's going. No. You just kind of, like you said, the lens where it goes back and forth. Football, I feel like when you watch it on TV, it looks so much faster than when you view it in person.

I was at the Titans game this past weekend, and I was sitting up in this suite looking down, and it was like, everyone's trying to just, it didn't seem like crazy fast to me. Well, yeah, and if you're sitting up high in an NHL arena, it's definitely similar to that where you can't tell, like, the physicality and the speed. but you're still seeing plays develop that you can't on TV watching hockey and it's just in person the best the best sport for me. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I like. I actually prefer watching it like as a former player. I like watching it from up top because I like seeing it all develop.

Like I don't need to be on the glass from like a viewership perspective. I kind of like being up top, no? I love it. And Will, would you say if you sat up high in an NFL stadium where the coordinators are, would you see plays develop? Would you realize right away when a guy missed an assignment? Like, do you know what in the game? Is it like hockey where you can see all how a breakaway happens ahead of time?

We're still pretty good, like, even if you're on the front row, I still feel like you're a good distance to wait where you're kind of seeing the entire formation. Okay. So I don't think like a, like not a whole lot. I guess you just get a better vantage point on the back. Well, I disagree with that. When we went and did the spring given ASU is so hard for me to tell who was who and what was going on. I couldn't see the far side of the field.

But when I was up there at that game this weekend, you see the formations, you see where protection breaks down. That's fair. You see people hitting gaps and stuff like that. Like, oh, you could see like, oh, the running back missed a gap there. Right, right, right, right, right. Or this guy, he, with his route. And you see it happen in real, like, right before it happens almost.

Yeah. Like up top, you see, in hockey at least, you see a pucket rimmed around. You see two guys take off. And you're like, dude, this puckets by this defense and it's pinching. These guys are gone because you've already seen him from up top go. Do you know what I'm saying kind of? So it's like, what you're saying to me is interesting, but like being a casual fan of hockey, the development of plays to me, it looks like just,

five guys holding a zone the entire time. Yeah, I have absolutely zero flu. And you're like, you're kind of just watching guys kind of work together. You really see it in power play. Like, where the four, how they kind of rotate. Like, I think that's fascinating. But when it's five on five to me, it just seems like, yeah, they're dukeing out. The two defensemen are just kind of chilling back there, kind of, hey, don't let you get past the blue line. And that's really it. But you guys actually, do you guys actually have plays like coaches yelling? Hey, Ron Twister. Um, there's face off plays. But there's, like, when you're on the ice, you're just like talking to your line mates and you're talking on the bench, like, go here

next time and you're all like it's like knowing what you're going to do before you do it there's not like plays live in action i think you kind of like there's systems in a sense of like how you play in structure and how you pressure teams in the neutral zone i would say it's evolved to where it's it's like it's very it's a lot more in depth now than it was like 15 years ago just because of the amount of video the amount of coaches like talk talks about like their neutral neutral zone forecheck and little things like that like um a power play zone entry where you might have a couple different options of how you like um you go up ice get control yeah so there yeah there there there's not as much as you think because it's such a reactionary sport but in controlled settings like

for instance a controlled breakout like you said off of a face off so there's certain situations of the game you can control and you got to like practice practice those in training camp like you would run plays like what's a control breakout mean because i'm thinking of myself like so so you're you're staying defense was behind the net and the center swings down and he either picks up the puck or he goes, the other team has kind of sat back. Once you get control behind the net, they're just going to be like,

all right, we have a set four check. We know how to combat what they're doing. Yeah, so if like the center swings, the defensive side of the coach, like on the defensive team, he'll say swing with that centerman. Some of them might say, like all of you five guys,

stand in the neutral zone and just kind of let them have it up there and then try to come up the ice. So it's, yeah, it's constantly evolving. And then like game to, game, you're getting a video breakdown of their power play, their penalty kill, and these types of situations, what they might do off face off, face off plays, their control breakout, their zone entry on a power play.

So you kind of get that five to eight minutes of video in the morning of the day of a game. But the thing that's hard about hockey is you're playing, you know, 31 other teams. So you have with different systems. So you have to have a team who kind of is easily able to adapt, like has hockey smarts and saying, okay, today we're not doing the same forecheck we were last night on the control breakout because maybe that centerman who swung for the offensive team went behind the net, grabbed the puck and it's fucking caprice off where he can actually go end to end by himself. So it is just like coaching is so fucking important nowadays just because of how good the league's gotten

and all these mighty details that you have to teach your players and then keep them reminded of as it goes. In football, do you base team to team change your defense? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The system that the offense is running or defense is running. Would there be a game, obviously it's different for offensive line. As a defensive player, would there be a game you're playing a certain defense

where you're not like in because it's that defense? You don't play that one. Right. So you have like bigger personnel and lighter personnel to work like you're in 21 personnel, which is two running backs in one tight end or 12 personnel or 13 personnel. Like those are bigger body personnel to where they're running at least double tight end. So you play more of a. base package too that have bigger bodies in there, three, four linebackers. There's a lot of teams

now just playing with two linebackers. But then when it gets lighter in the box, so you see with the chiefs, when they spread it out, there are three wide. So 13 personnel, or my fault, not 13, 11 personnel, when they're breaking out with a lot more receivers. You need more. Then you need more speed on the field. You need more speed on the field. So you swap out a backer with a nickel, you swap out of a backer with a dime. It's like chess. It's live chess. Yeah, yeah. Like, that's why I view football is like there's always a break and that's like all right someone won a battle here now what are we going to put on the field to best combat each right right and everything's situational so yeah like any given week you're starting off and you're breaking down the running game like first and 10

their play action off the run game their first and 10 or second 10 passes then as you get later in the week you're breaking down third down and not just third down but third down from what do they do from at third and one does this team combine one to three will they call it? any play will they just have a couple go-to plays in third and one so it's third and two to three third and four to seven and third and uh eight plus yeah they're all different situation how much time are you consuming a video setting up for that next week way more than you're on the field like hours and hours like you're if on wednesday if you go in the building your first meetings at seven a m you're watching film and either with your offense as a full team or in

your individual rules of the old line or linebackers and then you go to practice and then how long would you watch video at 7 a a a a 10 so dude how do you keep guys from not falling asleep no no like oh yeah you you deal with that all the time but that's like that's that's that's rookie shit like you that's that's unprofessional yeah the first time you you kind of start to doze off hey stand up if you're having a problem have a coffee or whatever that it's like that's the grind of the season it's not necessarily the practices or the games like that does wear on you eventually but like it's the constant every day and the redundancy of like Wednesday is the first install so you're doing your base packages the meat and potatoes of what we're going to do in this game and then the next

day you focus more in third down and everything in red zone and yeah red red zone and then Friday you go through like your two minute calls which is usually numbered one through 10 and one will tell you everything odd numbers are usually sliding to the right even numbers are sliding to the left you're going to memorize oh my god more than hot holy if you if you go into Take Adderall? No, but it's, dude, it's so easy because there's probably 20 real football players, 20 football plays in football. And I'm, I could be totally off of the number. But there are like, yeah.

I don't know. I just think it's funny to hear. There's probably, I'm probably 20 total. Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying like if you looked at like all your, there's all these different variations of those 20 plays. Base runs and base past concepts, there's, there's only a finite amount. So let's just say it's 20. But on top of that, there's like 50 different wrinkles to each play. How you're going to motion, where guys line up.

And then you're all obviously playing the other side too. How do they play off? Are they penetrators? Are they two gappers? So now you're thinking how you're getting to your combination blocks differently. These corners play press. Like we were talking earlier with blitzes. Like you're like, oh, if you're a left tackle and you see a guy coming off the edge, what do you do?

It's like, well, is it my assignment to get that guy? Or is it my assignment to take this guy I have on me? And if it is, I usually would take the team, like all the stuff, when we're as a team together, they would kind of give me their tendencies and game plans as a whole. And then on my own time, when I get home,

I would evaluate the individual player that most of my matchup is at. Which I'm sure, like, if you're playing the Saints and you're like, God forbid, it's second down, I have to go out with Alvin Kamara. Right, right, right, right, right. You're watching every option around Alvin Kamara has.

From your guys' standpoint, you're realizing like, all right, do they play more of a two-shell defense or are they a big heavy cover three defense this week? What do they do when you got them in a situation and we motion them out to empty? how do they adjust and empty? Does the linebacker, like, I prefer a check rat to stay in the box?

I don't even get what you're saying right now. Does the line, yeah, does the linebacker stay in the box? Chinese podcast? Yeah. But like you guys are saying, when you guys are saying centers coming for check, the guy stay in the gray zone and they come on up or whatever? The gray zone. So how many of your listeners like,

I'm calling it like you know, I'm calling it the gray zone forever now. Forever. What is it? The neutral zone. How many of your listeners? It's a neutral color. Yeah, yeah.

No gray area of your turn. How many of your listeners like appreciate you guys getting the weeds on the football talk or do you think not a lot of them understand it? Like how many? I ask it. Same thing. Oh, I asked the same question. Oh, I asked the same thing. When? Two hours ago. No shit. Yeah. Literally when we were all trying to answer. Hey, great minds, buddy. Yeah. You were legit there when we would ask. Yeah. I was about to explain. Sometimes we start getting in the weeds and like we'll get. I wonder to hockey people like. Yeah. They're like, we don't give a fuck. Tell us a kill story. Oh. Tell us a kid. I'm sure people to come that's a leave if they appreciate the football talk. Because I wonder the same thing. We kind of got in the weeds a little bit and even in the intro. But let me ask you this like playoffs.

If you're playing a team possibly seven times, how redundant does that get? Not really because the playoffs are so like incredible to be a part of. You're so fired up for every game and excited to go over the game tape. And if you win, let's keep this thing going. If you lose, like we can only lose three more times. So like, yeah, January, you're going through film. you're playing jersey, you're watching their power play and their penalty kill and yeah, you've got another game, it's game 56, but when you get to April and May and June hopefully, you're so

dialed in and excited and like cannot wait to get to the week every day. Do you ever think to, go ahead. I don't like the redundancy between that time. There's too many games. Too many games. 82 games before playoffs. If they put it down to 70, I think it would be the perfect amount because you would get a little bit more rested between games, so they'll be fresher.

the product will be better and every game will mean more and I think a little bit less out of conference like create that rivalry within the conference of like where you're clawing to get out rather than I just think 82 is way too much

This is off topic I just have to say this quick It's not really off topic But this is why I originally The Premier League soccer in England I was originally like What the fuck? There's no playoffs

But the regular season champ is the champ And the bottom three teams get relegated. That would obviously never happen but it's actually sick how they do it every game matters so much. Until it doesn't. Right. Until it does. What if one team is so far in the league? Like the last five

games of the season, they're like, oh, we're the champs. Well, I was going to say, too, like, what's interesting with, like, the team sports that go deep in the playoffs and have, like, seven rounds. Like, all your guys is, like the NBA, you think about it, they have a lot of games. The MLB has a lot of games in the regular season. Obviously, playoff basketball, basketball, playoff, baseball, playoff hockey.

Like it all seems to get really heightened around your sport then. To whereas with football, I feel like since you only play 17 games, like Monday night, football, Thursday night. It all seems like a spectacle. Every game matters. And I saw a stat that I think one of the last 44 teams or something that started 0 and 2 made the playoffs. So you get off to a slow start.

I got a run. I got a current football player question for you. Can I go into that? Go ahead. Yeah, yeah. why is it did they let Derek Henry go from your Titans? Like as a fringe football fan, I saw him the other day against Dallas. Yeah, went off.

I'm like, this guy, Tennessee, like, didn't play him at the end of the year that much and then didn't sign him? What the fuck? Yeah, I love that question, bro. You'll ask your answer it? No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, here's my, if I'm putting myself in the GM's brain of the Tennessee Tigers. Do you have inside info on this? No, I don't.

But this would be my assumption. there is only one back in the last 20 years that has outplayed their second contract and their first contract. That's Derek Henry. So if you're thinking of your ROI from a back standpoint, at some point it's got to end.

The market's gone so low. So you're essentially, my thought is this, like, Derek Henry was the Titans. Yep. And you know your ceiling was, at one point, maybe a Super Bowl when you had AJ Brown, Tanna Hill was firing all cylinders,

you had guys like actually killing it. But like, then AJ was gone. It was really more one-dimensional Derek. And you saw that. your ceiling was first second round of the playoffs like how do you get over that hump and their thought is is like if we bring in more speed everywhere to we're not so predictable we cut ties with derrick because we know that eventually that decline is going to happen it's just inevitable we get rid of him we we get our best ROI out of it and then we have like a team that can like throw it all over the yard

not working right now the risk being why not just sign up for like two what do you get what do you get well i think you got two years 16 so they couldn't well that's why what they do you do two years. You said to the client, so if he drops off in year one, it's like, fuck, I think he deserves a swan song. I mean, his last year, if he was played half the games, I think fans would have loved it. I would have loved for Derek to stay. I just think people were.

I think everybody would have. For nine years that I was on the Titans, it was besides the first two years, essentially the same football team every year. We're going to, give it to Derek. Yeah, give it to Derek. No, but like, we were a tough football team, didn't make a whole lot of mistakes, and we tried to get in third in manageables and get out there. If we got behind the sticks, it would be over.

And so we were just a team that would just grind you out for four quarters. I feel like football is the most cutthroat of them all. And like the loyalty is next to the one. I feel like there's a little bit more or a lot more in hockey. And you can sign these eight-year deals, which if you get- Yeah, I was going to say you get bought out. Fully guaranteed. If you get bought out, you get two-thirds of the deal.

If you're over the course of- James Neal hasn't been in the league for like half a decade now. He's still getting paid. Right. So they're wild. No, so what they do is let's say he got bought out and he had three. years left on his deal and he was making six million bucks you would get two-thirds of that so four million over per per year so three years 12 million over uh six years so twice the length of how many

years you had left so they kind of space it out so if he if he had three years left he get paid for six years but two-thirds of what takes care of the guy afterwards right yeah that's really spend it stupid and you get bought out some guys get bought out signed with a new team because They're bought out, not because they're not NHLers anymore, but it's just like... Hard cap. We got to get rid of money. This guy's still solid, but like you said with Derek Henry,

like he's getting older. You get bought out, get two-thirds. You sign with another team. You end up making more than you would have. A double dip. There's a double dip in the lead to you, but it's a one-year thing. Boy got the double dip. What's that?

I got a double dip. You got a small dip. A small dip. You got a small dip right. You went in the kitty pool. Yeah, absolutely shallow. Hey, but a dip nonetheless. Okay.

Yeah. But like, Will, because my brain is. not firing all cylinders. How do you double-dip? You just said it's allowed in the NFL for one year. You don't know how? You can, I think you double-dit-in-more, but it's like a year-by-year basis. No, every vested, like, veteran can double-dip one time in their career. So when I am as a vested player and I'm on the day one opening roster, like if the ball kicks off and I'm on on that unit, like my year is now owed to me. Okay. If they were to cut you and if they were

to cut you and you sign someone else. me, I would still get that salary that they owe me, and then I could still sign with somewhere else, and then you also get that money on top of it. That's a blessing in disguise. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was going to ask, though, as far as, like, that ruthlessness of the fact that they just snip guys, has the players association in football done a better job to claw back

at more, like, guaranteed and how, I guess, less ruthless it is from a guy who could play, you know, he could be gone the next day after an injury or something. Right. Yeah, the superstars get it, right? I'm not, you're not willing to. No, I just don't think they, I don't think, I think they, I think they can be way more effective than they actually are. Do you think that, knowing whatever, you think that comes from the guys making 60 million a year, though, stepping up on behalf of those guys? I think your, I think your problem is, is the degrees of payment are insane.

Like, on a team, you have three to five guys that are broke off, like, don't have to work again the rest of their lives. And then the rest of it is like, they're eating what they kill. is like you have your upper class and then a big middle class. The middle class is basically, yeah, cut out. And then a very, very large amount is the lower class. So when you get to the CBA negotiations, the collective bargaining agreement and like renegotiating everything, it's the same way as you look at politics. Like they throw out a couple of things like, oh, we're going to give a higher minimum

to rookies or guys that are, you know, under your four years. And everyone's like, oh, we got to jump at that because the majority of the league is like four years or younger because there's such a high turnover rate. And the average in the league is two and a half. You're doing it's so big, dude. That turnover rate has hit the NHL because it's way, it wasn't like that, like 10 years ago. I think it's a higher demand of athletes now, like are a higher supply of athletes. Oh, really?

There's more, I just feel like with all the access we have to social media and the training and all that, even when I was in high school, I see what these kids had. I was at my high school last week. And it just seems like their facilities are nicer. They just have a, they're putting a better position to be successful. Okay. So you just got kids pedaling out that are like, Like the, I guess the barrier of entry is kind of just done this a little bit more.

So they can cycle out that bottom, you know, 10-15. That's a good fear. And they're cheaper. Yeah, way cheaper. Which is what-like. Like the NFL is nuts. Like, you got to win like with the QB on his like rookie deal. Like, like it's five years.

That's the best position to be in. Before you got to pay him if he's a stud. Right. You got to. So it's, you're looking for your cheapest options. It's like with the Bengals, they when they had Joe Burrow and they knew he's going to be a star. It's like they're trying to pour, they're trying to pour more money into the offensive line and get him weapons with Jamar

chasing those guys. They're trying to just freaking around. A question about him, like, handsome guy, obviously he's got the world by the balls. He's a star quarterback. Like, I don't know if I want to, like, my star quarterback kind of walking in with these fucking outfits every time like that. Like, I'd run him just be a little bit more all business.

That's so hockey of you. What do you mean that's so hockey? It's like, it's like, this. Yeah. I thought you like, in hockey you've been, you've been raving about it. The outfit he wore tonight was kind of. I didn't see. That's what I'm saying.

It's like, it's like a white and white. It's a pink. I get, I get switching it up a little bit, but he's got like the frosted tips going. He looks like a Kendall. It looks like Eminem.

That little, that's going to, he's going through like an M&M, you know, Ken doll phase where it's just like, buddy, like get off your fucking Instagram grid and get the fucking playbook.

No? Am I out of my fucking mind here? I think Joe is like one of the guys you don't got to worry about like that. Is he struggling? Right, right, right. He's not playing well? No.

Joe. Joe just seems like a cat that's like dialed the fucking like he's a cat that's like dialed the fucking like they say Joe B plays chess against himself at his locker like he's just a different cat okay and you like you like how Austin Matthew shows the flare no I'm I think that I would be I would I'm saying that if I could have the ladder like if I could have like Tom Brady walking in like a tailored suit I'd rather it seems like that guy is just there for business rather than like worrying about this new like trendy um out fit. Hey, I love that you should be a coach. I love that this is coming from a guy wearing a robe. Right. Yeah, exactly. Bro, I wouldn't want me to be a fucking starting quarterback. I wouldn't want me getting the fucking water bottles to win a championship. Like, that's not me being a hypocrite either. Like, I was the guy who dressed like a guy. I'm saying I wouldn't want me leading the ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No? You get the old school. So I guess I was wrong in a sense of maybe in a certain case he's delegating his attention to like something that I would be like, eh, like let's just,

some fucking games here, but you're saying he's highly intelligent, highly committed, and I'm off base on that. Yeah, and if he's got a third thing, which, again, I'm not in the locker room, but if he has good relationships with the guys, like ultimately you want them influence and, you know, having influence on the locker room in a positive way.

Okay. You know, like, you want the locker room to feel good about the quarterback. And you don't care what other people think. Right, right. Well, and he checks all those boxes of intelligence. He's a good dude. You guys kind of got jammed up where you're like,

oh. Because he's, there's guys that, can just, they're just in that 1% of the 1% and they get the, they have a little, they have a different swagger. They can kind of do what they want. Yeah. But I feel like just being an outsider, like kind of casually enjoying hockey, I feel like that's a very traditional hockey mindset to have. Yeah.

Because they all, like you guys have to wear suits, suit and tie all the time. You put a microphone in front of 99.9% of hockey players. It feels like you guys are more team, team, team than football. And even talking to biz, well, cut that. But like, like, just talking to you guys. Like anytime there's a compliment dished your way, you're passing it somewhere else. Like, hockey players are like, don't look at me. Like, don't give me the comments.

Don't be a part of it. Yeah, that's why I got a little uncomfortable off the hop before I saw a reserve recording. Who? Suban. Oh, yeah. He showed a, he showed a lair guy. Yeah.

I didn't know, I don't know anything about his play, but it seemed like one of the things that kind of got him out of Nashville and like sent him somewhere else. Yeah, I don't know. I wasn't on that team. But I mean, he was, he was like a dynamic player. I mean, he would have these. end-to-end rushes, especially the early in his career in Montreal, the crowd used to like, love him.

He'd get the puck and they'd all like start like a small chant and then he'd just look, wind it up. He was like a legend. But I also feel like it, they actually let him be himself in Nashville and it was more towards the end of his time in Montreal when Bergervan came in. Teryan and him had some beefs that went like, yeah, like in between periods on some of those reality shows that might have followed the Canadians. He's, you know, he was giving it to him a bit. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So it was more as end time in Montreal. And I knew we were going to talk about the Predators at some point. Yeah, because we were talking earlier and we actually, we always do this every to a pod. We're talking to somebody. It's like, hey, just save it.

But I want to know your thought on the Preds this year. Exciting season for the Reds. Yeah. Everyone I talked to is like, yeah, the Preds got a squad, a young squad and they just got buddy from the Lightning. He got a bunch of buddies from Lightning and Vegas. Yeah, so they got studs everywhere. And they kind of showed up last year in a big way towards the end, right?

Yeah. So Poyle handed it off to Barry Trots, who was there as the head coach. And like I would have assumed at one point it would have just been a complete rebuild based on where they were headed. But it's been a quick retool. Like they ended up getting in Ryan O'Reilly. They had three star players at each position, which does change the fact that like the full rebuild might not be necessary. Forward D. They got Forrestberg, Yossi and Saros.

Great three stallions to build. To build off of that. Absolutely. And then they go out and get Ryan O'Reilly, which I think that people might have thought he would have signed back in Toronto. but, you know, Stanley Cup champion, but on the back nine of his career, for sure. Like, I don't know how much gas he has left in the tank. But Bacon, obviously, a huge blast was getting Marshalo and Stamcoast

who are also older guys. So it kind of feels like a few of them have maybe been slighted. Like March or so got hosed in, in Vegas, and then Stamcoast with the Lightning. So they're getting these cagey old veterans and surrounding them with, you know, they got a couple good young players. Evangelista is a good player. Yeah.

So they kind of did this retool as opposed to a rebuild. And with goaltending like that and with a solid lineup and good KG veterans that have been there and done that, I think that they're going to for sure make playoffs. Like, and you never know, maybe they can go in a deep run. Like Stamco's proven champion, Marchesau proven champion, Ryan O'Reilly, Con Smyth, Stanley Cup winner, Yosey's All-World. And then Seros is an all-world goalie. So I think it's really going to depend on some of these younger players that are in limbo a little bit. and how much they can help the team.

And obviously, Forsberg, amongst those players I mentioned, are elite. He's sick. I think you had a 40s eight goal season last year. I know he's the man. He's a great dude too. 48 goals last year, right? He's sick. Yeah.

He's a big, fast, like, super skilled star. And shows up in hard times. Like, he can play that hard playoff style game. So not really sure what to expect from the youth, but hopefully whatever they do have from prospects to youth pops quick because like I said all these guys that are their leaders are really on the back nine of their career so let me let me say too i think obviously biz talks a lot about the no state tax teams they're one of them in the nachel everyone who asked me like favorite arena and a play in i kind of say Montreal or Chicago

like where should i go to a game in Nashville yeah that stadium and the fact it's right on broadway it's the best setup in the league like if you're want to see your team on the road Yeah, Vegas is cool. Go to Nashville. I love that city. They had the draft there in 2023. And I think Biz and I said it should be here every year. It's just where the rink is and how sick of a city Nashville is to visit,

it's a hell of a spot now to have players want to be there. If I was a Canadian, well, I'm a Canadian, but if I was telling a Canadian to head down the States to go get an American experience, I would probably say, go to Nashville for a weekend and then go taking a game of Bridgestone. as like a hockey cultural experience because I believe that that's what they set up there. I know I fumble fuck that off to start but I think you guys don't know.

They're fans. You later that place. Like a B plus. More so than sending them to Vegas first. Like the environment's crazy. I feel like for people from the South where hockey is not influential at all, they completely understand the assignment

of how to like get into the game, be about it, have the chance, buy in, steal the red wings, octopus day now we're making a catfish like right just truly it's a it's like a culture flush it's cc footballish for hockey yeah but but you're we're saying the first best and big ten's the best conference of college football not for fans but what you mean like the cc games like you ever seen 115 000 screaming fans down south so i went to a mission game it was awesome and now the big ten i guess is different you added in USC and you added in somebody else go right Oregon yeah organ so those two places

Actually, I don't know if USC's that sick of an atmosphere. Maybe I'm wrong. But then you got like Rutgers, you got like some teams where every SEC stadium. Am I wrong? Vanderbilt. You guys are very biased. You're both Big Ten. We're talking.

Vanderbilt, you're right. Is college football bigger than ever? Yeah. You guys college football is bigger in the South. You can't admit that? In our world, it is. No, it is, bro. It is.

You can't admit that? College football is bigger in the South? It is. I don't know. Oh, my God. Will. Hey, come on. Listen.

Are you doing? Are you? No, no. I'm really trying to think about it. This is going to go viral. Bro, think about this. First of all. Because you got Ohio, Michigan.

Yeah, you got Ohio, Michigan, Penn State. Even throw in Nebraska. Well, that's not a disrespectful. We want to be with the South. Nebraska, Michigan State. Like, you go to these schools in the Big Ten and you start to realize, like, people who who live around the region fucking die for all of these teams. Like, they're a bad.

it's different like down south like people are living and dying by their teams in big ten it's a way of life in the south it's a religion yeah religion's big that sounds kind of like both religion that was deep man you like that was you landed that plane excellent you landed that plane excellent you got you got you I thought I was gonna be as bad as my Joe Burrow in religion is like the same shit I thought you were gonna trump my Joe Burrow take and take the focus off me there you really you really came back I will If Joe Burr was 3 and O right now, we would all be sitting here being like, I'd love a guy.

My hair would be blown. Let me tell you something. Yeah, but he's not. What is he, oh, or one and two? Well, listen, one and two. I think he's about to go one and two. He's down 2813, with three minutes left in the third. And about six minutes before the game, I bet the Bengals and bought it to minus six and a half,

which made it minus 133 and hammered him. So I believed in him, but right now, they're going to be Owen three. I took Washington. No, they're going to be one and two, getting smoked by the commanders. You really. Yeah. Jaden didn't. Having new quarterbacks come in that are like, can run like that.

Yeah, bro. They just get dangerous. He's 10 for 11 in the game. Cala Murray did it his rookie year. Like, it's just cats that they're just deceptive on their legs on the ground. What do you make of all the whole Taylor Swift, the Travis Kelt stuff? Like obviously it's probably talked about way too much and too often.

I don't know if it pisses off your viewers when you guys talk about it. But like that kind of went nuclear. Like this guy is like gonna make like hundreds of millions when she's done playing. Oh bro, he's a superstar. Their podcast did like a $100 million deal I think. Yeah, yeah. New Heights did like 100 million dollars. Is the NFL paying her to like be at all these games you think?

Who knows, you could be some deep state stuff. You think so? Oh, whoa, whoa. But I don't truly believe that, but I love like a good conversation. Like sorry. Oh no, what's the like popularity from like a stats perspective like viewership, internet clicks. Is it crazy? The cap went up crazy.

this year based on revenues generated from 2023. And that had a lot to do with that. You got to assume that her audience is the one of the guys to ask if she's getting paid. Huh? He thinks I'm nuts for even asking if the NFL be paying for her to go to games. Yeah, but just because I think what her and Travis

have is real. So if it's real, she's going to go to the game. She's not like trying to look for it. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. She's going to support. Even if it was real, even if it was real and she's like the business woman, it seems she is, she would, she's at the game. It's popping that it's the biggest news

when she's out of game, you don't think she could be like, yo, I want to start getting paid for the CBS or NFL. Hell no, bro. She makes like billions of dollars. Yeah, rich people, they always think of ways to make a lot of money. Oh, yeah, but what do they... Maybe this is a big reach.

But the... If you're a bunch of people... If they're like, all right, throw a number ass, what are you charging? She's like, I want... I want two million bucks every game I go to. The NFL would probably pay it. I love this, too. The NFL would probably pay it.

If Taylor Swift is a like... Hey, can we have your fans vote on who had the worst take, my Joe Burrow or that one? I think we should have a vote. Who's going to walk the plank? Honestly, I'm going to walk the point. I'm willing to ride this stuff off. That's being a bro, man.

You took all the focus off me there. Thank you, thank you. No, but I don't necessarily believe it, but then I wanted to argue it. I want to see the NFL. Do you need Taylor Swift that your game's that bad that you're paying too much? Apparently, you're telling me the cap went up because of it.

Yeah, that's when I really went on a run. He goes, the cap went up huge after last year. The players must, like, tell him thank you, thank you, every time they line up across from him based on what he's doing. He looks unhappy right now, dude. Travis is under some hot water right now. He's sitting on the bench like this. He said productivity.

His first three games have been tough, like not Travis at all. And there's a new title. They got to all of them. We're basically saying, like, oh, we've got to see where his priorities are at. Like, this is the first time, I think since the beginning of Travis's career that people are like, what's going on with him? Because he's always been a thousand-year-old guy every time. And he's always been a guy that shows up.

Always a guy that shows up. Always a guy that shows up. Yeah. But I also wouldn't give a fuck till game eight if I'm like the Kansas City Chiefs. I know. Just get ready for the playoffs. Come on. Like we talked about the dog days during the hockey season game 56 to 62 or whatever.

Like his dog days, what's that? There's only six games. Hey. Buddy, it's late. Put it on the list for the fans. fans to talk about it. Oh, for fucks. Yeah, did both of mine outweigh wits.

I don't even don't remember where I was. I interrupted. The dog days, the dog days. The dog days for K.C. and him are like games one through four. They're like, fuck, man. He's never had a losing season. He's never had a losing year? Ever.

Yeah, it seems like, why could they not get another? What's their record? He might have been to the playoffs every year. They're three and on the team. Oh. And he proves my argument of not knowing the NFL, but saying, you're so dumb to draft these high quarterbacks and play him first year. I don't get it.

Let them watch and learn and practice and take a year in and then have them start. Mahomes did it. Brady was the argument against a C.G. Aaron Rogers did it. Arguez did it. Aaron Rogers did it. What? CJ Stroud's the argument, but for every C.J. Stroud did it.

Seems like there's 50 dudes. Yeah, but there's multiple guys. Josh Allen's another guy that was thrust in there. Joe Burrow was another guy got thrusted in there. Joe Burrow was the first overall superstar. I can see that. And he also had been. He made Manning.

He threw, he's got the league record for interceptions. I thought that was broken. No, he was, we had him on a couple of years. Oh, that was cool, huh? Yeah. Did you see him walk out in a Tennessee uniform?

With, uh, yeah. With, uh, yeah. Full pad, helmet on. He's a silly guy, he is so funny. Oh, you guys just had him on. Yeah, yeah.

It was probably the best episode we've ever had. Really? It was fun, bro. It was just like a legend, because you get like a white whale. I'm sure you guys got your white whales, but like you get one of them on. And it's good.

And you're like, just stoked to have them. But then he's telling stories where like, I wish we had three more hours. Oh, that's a dream. Yeah, because it was like, there were legitimate laughs.

And even when you tell a joke and he kind of giggles, you're like, I just made fucking pain man. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, he's feeding into the conversation, kind of like this is where like no one's really controlling it.

We're all just talking. Yeah. He was kind of about that. It was just great. And it was, man. How about it's doing, doing what we do? Like,

when you get an interview where the guy is just, Biz says, put a quarter in him and let him go. it's the best and it's like you're not you don't feel like I'm working right now yeah and then you add it to being like a legend you're like this is this is the best job in the world there's you guys worse dude than sitting with somebody and you have your little sheet just in case things aren't going well and by minute you got nothing i got no more bullets oh the whole i got no more bullets are the worst because but the good thing is i'm sure you guys do it is like when will and i have a little issue we'll just start bouncing off each other and kind of find something and then we'll just sauce it over and see if i take it off it off or

You pull your chair, just block them out. Bases at times we'll just start, like, fucking around. Oh, yeah. Oh, right. Yeah, who's got the smelliest farts on the team? Like, just, if you're going to fucking come up. Who's got the smeliest forts on the team? Yeah, like, legit, like, stupid shit at them if they're going to give me nothing.

Like, if you don't want, if you're going to give me two-word answers, like, don't, just don't come on. Right. Yeah, even if you are a big name. Do you guys have more issues with active players? Oh, yeah. I feel like, I feel like, we've gotten, like, better. at it and you also just you you make them shorter like if you get 15 minutes out of them the the youtube generation and the current fans do want to hear from these players so yeah even some but sometimes you you get these

like some gems like we had this arbor jack eye on and he was an hour and montreal fans are crazy he plays for the habs and that was one of our most listened to in a long time so but there's nothing better than when you get this like old veteran who doesn't give a fuck And he is just letting it fly. We had Eddie Shaq. This guy was an old school. Rest in peace. Rest in peace.

He passed away. Mind you, we had to delete like seven minutes of the interview because this guy was as old school as they came. But he didn't, like, he didn't give a shit. And he was telling us these insane stories about when hockey was in black and white. So it was like getting those throwbacks and getting those guys slinging it, there's nothing better. And when it's coming out of their mouth too, you just know you're like, oh, man, this dude, he's letting it rip.

And you know the fans are listening on their stereo and they're like, this is what we want. And they love it, bro. The authenticity from guys? When you get done, you just look at each other and you're like, what that was a fucking pot? You know, it's the best feeling in the world. You know every week your pod comes at the same time,

but this week especially, you're like, I cannot wait. You're checking it every hour, but like, yeah, they're going to love it. You got that personal enjoyment from it and you're, but you're more excited for the fans to hear it because, like, you were able to extract this and deliver to them. And it's just, like, it makes doing what we do. Like, that, to me is, like, that's the pot.

Absolutely. Yeah, you guys, like, oh, I listen to you guys, like, throughout the week every day and it's unreal. Like, I'm at work, and the time flies by. And it's, like, that's the best compliment. Yeah. Like, he's like, you just, like, so many hours, I enjoy listening to you guys to shoot the shit. It's just, like, I'm in traffic. It doesn't even feel like I'm sitting in it that long, like, because it's a good pod.

And you're like, that's the best compliment you could get. Yeah, just taking away from people's regular everyday life. Yes, yes. Or they're able to be like, oh, fuck it. Just shut the brain off for a minute. I just got to work. Let me throw on the boys real quick for a little bit. I'm going to rip this.

And then two hours goes by and you're like, God damn. You listen to certain podcasts and I'm like the same way. It's like, oh, nice. You can just chill, listen to this. You're looking forward to it. Yeah. If you follow in their lives.

Especially when you go in the hunt too and you're like, I always put like a Rogan one in. But like he had Tom Cigar on recently and like getting to know Tom and all that. I'm like, oh, I'm kind of look. I had like a big hour drive ahead of me. I'm like, oh, fuck, I'm going to put this on right now. Yeah. That hour went by like that.

Yeah. And I was like, Jesus. It's an unreal job. What we get to do. And when you get to meet those guys, it's like you want to say the same stuff to them because you want them to know that like, yo, you impact me. Right. And so when those people say it to you realize the impact you're doing to them

because you feel it with the people that we listen to. Yeah. I know because every UFC fight I ever go to, like the big ones, Rogan's there. Right. And I want to every time just kind of like go, I know we met before, bro, but like still the man. And like not in a creepy way, but just be like,

the same thing that people say to, you were just explaining with it is like, yeah. Like bro, you, I know you have the biggest podcast in the entire world, but I'm one of them.

I'm one of the people that listen to the show. And I just want you know that's cool as fuck. Yeah. And then dip out of there, but you never do. Well, you guys had on,

fuck, what's his name? Politician guy. Oh, RFK. Oh, yeah. RFC. I was going to ask you,

like, we kind of avoid the politics talk. Did you guys talk about politics when he was on? and like what do your what are your viewers think like does it does it create tension like do you get negative comments for getting political and like hey stick to sports i mean you i feel like you when you're in that world you're going to get comments no matter what but it was one of those things like taylor and i talked about like hey do we want a politician along yada yada yada but then we got back to

the question that we have with everybody else we have on it's like how do we bring the locker room to life like with this person so even though we might have had a couple like questions about politics like we're trying to talk to him and get out stories the same way you guys the same way we do with players, the same way with anybody that comes on the bus. And ultimately, you want them to feel good enough to where they're coming off authentically

like you were talking about when you find somebody that just story tells and it's just like putting a quarter in them. Because ultimately, the people who are watching and listening to it, like, they're going to love seeing that side of that person. And they might learn something. Right.

That RFK interview, I watched it. Like, the one thing about that guy that's cool is like he is so into the health of the United States and the kids. Right. So who the fuck's not going to be down with hearing his ways. That's a good point.

Like at least my wife's like, she's like, he talks a lot, the food that we eat and how much shit is in the food that we're feeding our kids. And how kids are just eating like, and I ate like shit like sugary cereal, but like he's, it's probably to me one of the most important things.

Like why is our nation so fat? We've gone off a deep end here, but you brought that interview up. And that's what about him. If you can't enjoy listening to at least his ideas of a good thing, then who cares if you hate it, right? Yeah, the cool thing about RFK is like,

I have friends that are on both sides of the fence And every time I brought up RFK Everyone's gonna like, yeah, I like them Like no one ever has like a really super divisive thought Brows about him. There's some people more on the left actually That are like, oh, he's a fucking kook Like he, you know, the brain worms, all this stuff

But every guy on the right I've talked to He's been like, yeah, RFK is the man. It's crazy. His voice like probably affects him from ever becoming president And getting ready for this thing, getting ready for his podcast, I went and looked back at old interviews and he had a regular voice.

Oh, really? Totally fine. He had like this... I know it's messed up. I just thought maybe he had a deep voice. No, he had a regular voice and then there was some sort of like disease that I'd like, he had like some sort of autoimmune disease and I'm butchering it that attacked his vocal cords. Oh, no.

And so it sounds like he's struggling to talk all the time, but really he's just, he feels fine. He feels like us talking right now. Oh, that's how it's coming out. No shit, eh? Which is crazy. So did you ask him about like how he even got into it and like politics and all that? Like, obviously his father was, so he kind of just fell in.

lime? The first 10 minutes was... His father wasn't JFK though. Do you know that? Oh, was it his uncle? Yeah, and so his father and his uncle were assassinated. Oh, his father was assassinated too. Keep in mind, guys, I'm Canadian. I don't know Abraham Lincoln was assassinated. You know Abraham Lincoln was assassinated? On a recent episode, no clue.

Yeah. I mean... Is that bad? No, no, not at all. I mean, yes, I don't know who like China's history. Okay, good. Yeah, I don't know the Canadian history or nothing like that. Hey, Biz was telling me that all the Canadians that watch us, Biz loves Trudeau, bro.

He was saying how much he's the man. He's all about Trudeau. I think Kevin O'Leary, to a certain degree, like most of what he said, I think it was on the Full Send podcast. He had a very good breakdown of like why he has this. He said he's successful in the sense he's been in power for nine years and that's a long time. And I don't think like as a person he's maybe malicious.

I just think he has zero clue what he's doing. And it's just like, yeah. Every Canadian, I, like, I, like, I, because, I go up to Cologne all the time and every Canadian I've met I've not met one person that likes Trudeau. Yeah, it's, I haven't really met any either and I'm in Canada DC now.

Right? It's kind of like, and there's all the trucks, all the proud boys. Literally, it's so funny, and I've told this. Canada and America are the exact same. They're the exact same. You guys just have stabbings, we have shootings. That's basically the only difference between Canada and America.

Because Canadians, Canadians look, Canadians look at me and they're like, you guys, is politics. are crazy, but then I, I drive down the street and there's like big, you know, Chevy trucks and there's like, fuck Trudeau with a bunch of stickers and stuff like that. Yeah, there's a little bit of that. It's all like, it's all the same. It's all the 30 million people versus 35. Yeah, but you guys are 100 miles within the 100 miles of the border. Like you guys are just our upper, upper states. I also wouldn't get that intense about it. It's more of like, I think that there's time for change. And if people want to elect them

and keep it, it's like, all right, well, fuck. I mean, I'm spending most of my time in the, in the US anyway, but all my family and friends are Canadian. So it's like, ah, they don't seem to, to want him there either. So that's just kind of how. I never, I never invest that much energy into it because, like, realistically, not much is going to change about our lives, depending on what happens. That's what I was going to say. For me, like, I follow it all and I have certain opinions, but I'm like, maybe it's a bad way

looking at it. Like, is my life going to change? Now the argument would be like, you should care about other people's. Oh, I do. But I do, but I, I do too. But I'm being honest, it's like, it doesn't change my life. really what's going on that much. Yeah, I just...

So why argue with people all the time? Like, I don't know. I enjoy the rabbit holes. I really enjoy, like, getting on Twitter, like hitting a search bar, typing one of the other end, and just kind of scrolling comments and sing. But, like, you know what to believe?

People just breaking things down. Do you even know what's, like, legit and real? No, and that's the thing that blows my mind. And I go back to the Rogan and Seguerah. They were talking about, like, what's real and what's not? I think if I Googled something controversial,

right now, I don't, and I would read it, I don't know if that's a truth or not. Okay, yeah, neither do I. So to me, it's like, how am I going to find out the actual answer? I might as will just, like, kind of sit back. You let your imagination. Yeah, play with the chaos in my head. And it's good to have a podcast. Just like not to get too seriously. Yeah. It is a fun little game. But that, that RFK one was so much fun. It was fun, yeah. When he was telling stories about his uncle and his dad and like growing up and the Redskins would come over to their house and like, the football players? Yeah, yeah, like the football players. Like the football players would come over and like when we're like no no not the football players

with war. I was, hey, there's like five people listening saying thanks for clarifying. No doubt. And the rest are like that guy's a fucking moron. I never having too many bullets. We got to switch it on somebody else. Hey guys, I'm not very intelligent. I never went to college other than Davenport University.

That was like in a portable and I took two classes and I slept the entire time like you would do during film. NFL. No doubt. Yeah, especially your book of year. Yeah. Hey, what stories he was telling him were just crazy, man. It was so much fun to listen to because he's telling things that we've all learned about at some capacity. Americans have learned about at some capacity. Like? Yeah, like he knows

his dad and his historical figures or his family. Yeah, I guess you're right. People are probably listening. You're about to break down the full episode. I know. I'm about the break it down. No, I think you would direct traffic that some of our listeners might go over. Yeah, the RFK podcast is great. Like, they talk about his dad's assassination, his dad and them going over to Poland.

It was an awesome time. Go check it out. That was a nice poll. Would it bring me back in there, dude? I was about to give it. No, Will had to, I think you were going to do. Well, that would have been one story. That would have been like a best of then direct more traffic. Anyway, we can move on.

I got a question for you guys. Like, what's up with the world? Like, it seems like you guys get into it with, with GMs. I saw the recent one. No, that feels like you guys have been toes with an organization or two. Yeah, we, we have been. And I guess it's like kind of, weird because biz and I got real no desire to be like causing a ruckus in organization.

But we seem to do it right year. But last year with the Columbus head coach, he ended up getting fired based on like a report and something Biz had heard and it snowballed when research was done into something where a coach was fired right before the season. And then this year, I talked about the Boston Bruins star goalie, Jeremy Swam and Young, maybe 25. I don't know exactly his age, but just became like a star in the league. He did. The last few years been playing with a great goalie who won the Vets on Boston. They had a two-man tandem. Well, they traded the other guy, Linus Allmark, and now it's Swamon.

But they traded him when he was unsigned. They traded Allmark, and Swamond didn't have a deal. So now it's going on all summer. Now training camp started, and he's not there, and he's not signed. He's holding out. I went on and was told the offer the Bruins gave him, which was an enormous slap in the face. He's looking for around eight years times. I bet you'd take 8.258.

and they offered him four years at 6.2 million. So he's looking for 64, say they offered him, what is that, 26? Yeah. I went on and gave that, and then I also mentioned that I'd been told that the Bruins hadn't been returning, like, his agent's calls and responding to a possible, like, re-offer or an offer given back by the agent and the player, and that he hadn't heard back from Don Sweeney, the GM.

And randomly, in the middle of his preseason day before, training camp press conference he was asked about swimming he's not signed he kept getting asked kept getting asked he's like I'm not going to talk about rumors but one rumor that was bullshit was uh the the the spitting up on yourself podcast

I loved it I love it and then I heard that I said we got him he goes I know yeah and so boom I'm like all right well now we're in the middle of this but it's kind of hilarious that a GM's talking about our podcast naming it a different name like we're in the mix but it's weird So he ends up saying

Yeah, and you know My son loves Paul Bicinette And he's a very entertaining guy And he goes into like But they're doing it for kind of clicks Is basically on paraphrasing what he said That's what they do They don't know it for facts

They shouldn't present it as facts Bizz didn't even say it I said it So then it's like all right Well we're in the myth We're in the middle level We've got to address it now Right and I

We did the episode drops Is this dropping Tuesday morning Yeah Ars drops It my resource live right now and we address this and um you know so go check it out go check it out go check it out go check it out and yeah and biz had a conversation with him and and there's evidence he called me there's evidence that he you know he's not a fan of mine so it kind of is is what it is but we are in the mix yes that's a long answer long answer that's how

we got in the mix and uh yeah just kind of like i don't know but at the same time we had two current gms on the same episode that's live right now So it's like if we got two GMs that are friendly enough and good enough to us to come on, well, one GM really doesn't like me. I mean, we're still doing pretty well with St. Louis and Minnesota, Doug Armstrong and Billy Garron coming on and talking about their teams. Right. Now, when you're talking, when you go out and talk about the player and, like, they offered

them X, Y, and Z, are you getting that from the players' camp? And if so, like, are you asking? No, and you wouldn't say who you're getting it from anyways. Got you. Like, hockey. I'm almost saying if you're I'm only saying if you're in rap before or Adam Schaeffler or Adam Schaeffield

he ain't giving up sources Yeah you can't The minute you say your sources You'll never get another source Right Right Imagine how many fucking sources Adam Schaefter has

Yeah He's got to have everything He gets every breaking Elliot Friedman similar to that In the NHL They're breaking the biggest news So they got mad sources And they're not

Not given in any of them Do you ever get worried about Like that player was like hey, why would you be saying that? Yeah, but I wouldn't say something, I don't think. Me saying what I heard, I don't know Jeremy Swamon, but me saying the offer the Bruins gave him, I know that that would never hurt him.

I'm helping him in a sense of like, everyone's like, that's the fucking offer they gave him. Right, yeah. If I was like, if I didn't know the guy, well, I guess I would say this, but if I'm like, I heard this team offered him 10 million years, he's not taking it so he'd look bad. I don't know if I'd share that.

Do you know what I'm saying, Ben? Yeah, you're more for the player than the coach. I wouldn't have a problem to say. Yeah, I guess if I didn't know him, I wouldn't. But I would be honest about saying, yeah, if you think you're fucking worth more, then I guess try and get it. But I think he's being a little greedy in this sense. Yeah, that's true.

If that was the case. But also one part of the story, too, it's, I think he was just frustrated. He completely fumbled the situation, which I think he's done. And then to go radio silent for three weeks in the summer. Which he denies, we should say. Yeah, which he's the. denying, that's just, that's what that's what the same source is saying. So we never denied the number. So obviously the source is legit. Why would he lie about the time that they, they didn't

talk? There was radio silence for three fucking weeks. You still haven't signed your star goalies. So what's going to happen? Is this going to get drawn out to December 1st? That could happen. And it's crazy, which would be crazy because if at that point he doesn't sign, he has to sit out the full season. Is that, is there a situation like that in the NFL where if your deal's not done by a certain game? You said week 10 to me earlier. I asked him this earlier. Oh, week 10? No, I have no clue.

I think Big Cat said it might have said that. Yeah, I'm not sure. There's only been a few situations where guys have sat out the entire year. I don't think there's a cutoff where you have to like sit out. Who was the biggest player to ever be like, no, not enough. I'm not playing this year. I mean, there was Levyon Bell. He didn't play the whole year?

He didn't play an entire year. And it didn't work out? The only person I've ever heard. He was in a boxing match too for like short money. Yeah, yeah. He was the man for real. Like he was the man. Yeah, yeah.

He got bad advice. He's such a unique style of player, too. He just, like, sat behind his line and kind of just looked around a little bit, then, win. Red it and then, boom, pal out of the cheetah. And that's like a weird way to play. But he was so effective. Trent Williams. That's what I was going to say.

Trent Williams is the only player off the top of my head that took a year off and came back and you're like, yeah, he's still him. Still the fucking man. He sat out of a year. Didn't accept the salary. Did he make more? Did he get what he was looking for? No, I mean, I'm saying that year he lost his salary, but because he hated

how Washington kind of bought some of his surgeries. Is that the guy in San Francisco now? Yeah. He's like the best offensive linemen in the league. To me, T.V. Trent Williams is the greatest offense alignment in the history of the game. He's the number one player ever.

He's a 99 guy in NFL. Having that be your position. Yeah, he's the man, dude. And it's like, the same guy you're talking about who sat out a year? Yeah. He's all one of the best? I think he's like, yeah,

he's on like the Mount Rushmore of offense. Wow. He's got to be. Another guy who's probably on the Mount Rushmore. If not the best, was that Aaron Donald? Oh, yeah. Was he the best pass rusher of all time? Such an argument.

Yeah, he's arguably the best defensive player of all time. Really? Who is the other guy that people would say? Lawrence Taylor. Reggie White was a monster, bro. I said it before him. What made Aaron Donald so effective? He was just this, like, massive human that pounds so bad.

How great he was in the short amount of time that he played? Like, he doesn't have, how many years did he act? Nine. Or he played one more year than me. But I'm saying somebody like that, like he could have played, he could have played at least 15. And showed no signs of stopping. No signs of slowing up. That's what I'm saying.

It's like Megatron for the Lions. He just was like, I'm the best. Why do you shut it down? That's it. The way he phrased it is, he's like, I've achieved everything I could possibly achieve in this game. Like, I've given everything. I'm topped out of getting everything. And I did it all.

Right. Bro, from the minute he stepped on the field, he was a Pro Bowl, all pro guy. From the minute. Oh, rookie year? He was, he was. the 13th overall pick, my year, was defensive rookie of the year, and then went on nine straight Pro Bowls after that, and I think six all pros.

Yeah. Three defensive player of the years. I might be two. Dog, I'm telling you, like, just a, for 10 years. For 10 years, and it was like, he played three technique for the most part, so that's on the guards, so tackle guard center. I know, I don't want to sound disrespectful. I'm just trying to explain it.

Like, and I would, when we would play the Rams, whether they were in St. Louis or in L.A., You just look at the guards throughout the week and you're like, you're fucked. You poor motherfuckers. And then this motherfucker starts playing on the edge every once in a while I'm thinking, God damn it. Did he ever get you?

Did he ever burn you? No, he never got me. But he would, it's very different. Like there's, with rushers, it's very unique for a guy to be able to play multiple spots. Like a guy like T.J. Watt, he's on the right tackle. He's one of the most effective all-time rushers of all time. His brother, JJ, could go tackle guard center, guard tackle and that is so hard to game playing because he essentially goes down the line in the

beginning of the game figure out who's got the y who's the week who's the week guy no fucking fucking takes them out the whole day oh no and so you get like my rookie guy i got tested by jj and luckily i had some success no shit and i was like stayed away he kind of stayed away after that i was like thank god because the dude was a fucking stud and he would just go find one guy and then after the first quarter where's uh where's what in that conversation top 20 all time oh he's top 20 for sure. Top 20 defensive linemen of all time. Yeah.

Someone at Barstool told me, sorry to interrupt, but quickly you'd appreciate this, that Christian McCaffrey might retire way sooner than people think. Why? Oh, man. We need him, man.

I would love, yeah. It was a straight up rumor, but I was like, what? And he's like, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. But I got a source at Barstool, so.

Yeah, but Barstow's got crazy sources. They've gotten, that's like the most insane place to grab a source. No, I don't. He's in these holes. That might be crazier than the Taylor Swift getting paid by the NFL. Hey, honestly, I was ready to give that legs.

I was ready to give that low. Yeah, I think that's a fun conspiracy thing. Yeah, I mean, he's a great white hope, dude. I guess I don't know if I would be surprised. Like, I know he's battling with an Achilles right now. He just flew to Germany to talk to a specialist. He's had a lot of injuries, right? No, not really.

Or maybe it was another country, but he's overseas. I think he had a foot one here. I think he's been hurt a couple times. When he was in Carolina, I think he had like a resurgence of health when he went to 49ers. I could be messing that out. You know who I love from that Panthers team was that linebacker, the white guy?

Luke Kikley. Oh, dude, that guy seemed like the best guy. If Will were to stand up right now, he'd be hard as a rock. That's his team. Oh, that's your guy. I think he's... He just seemed like the coolest guy.

He didn't get to play as long as he wanted to or everybody else wanted him to. Yeah, he ended up retiring. Yeah, from concussions. And, bro, if he legitimately could have been like the best linebacker of all time. I mean, Ray Lewis has an insane resume, but Luke was somebody who was,

His brain, though, right? He would see the play before it happened. And he was nails, though. He was nails, too, right? Bro, he would now, I'm going to be talking to foreign language. I love this shit. I love this shit. But I remember a Dallas game, and it was on Thanksgiving, I believe.

And, bro, they're playing Tampa 2. And when you're a Tampa 2 middle linebacker, you're the middle runner. So you're taking it all the way down the pipe. Bring it down a little deeper. Do you know what I? Yes. I know exactly what you're saying. Okay.

Cover two? So your collisions are going to be. be hard. No, no, no. So my cover two, I'm past first. I'm a past first linebacker and I'm running down the middle of the field to have the highest route. Oh, I thought it was running towards a line. I thought it was running towards a line. Off the snap, they had trips to one side. So three receivers. He runs up the middle. The three guy, the one he's closest to, runs down the pipe. So he is supposed to run with him. But he starts off deep enough to where he knows the quarterback's eyes. He's going to check it and then go to different color because he already sees that he sees that stamp of

two kikl is already on top i'm going to go to my next read he baits this deep dagger from the outside receiver he leaves the middle of the field and just i mean not guesses but uh but he could he knew it was yeah he knew it was coming picked it he knew that he baited the middle of the field and he took off and picks the dig route and takes it back for six that's like a quarterback yeah bro and then as uh like if If you're playing cover four and you got to carry that. That's like Ed Reed type stuff too, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And he has a safety, right? Yeah, yeah. I think he broke down a play exactly like you just talked about in a baiting sense because he watched so much tape that he knew that if he fake. Situationally, whether there's third down, whatever, he knew that that play was coming. And then like if you're in cover four and you've got to carry a receiver. So you're kind of like, you're kind of running to where when the ball's up, you're more so like looking at their eyes and playing their hands.

hands. You know what I mean? Because yeah, you got your back to the QB. You got your back to the quarterback. You're kind of underneath because, again, in cover four, you're more below the three receiver. But he was so good that a guy like me, you're trying to read the eyes and play through the hands because you're probably not going to be able to turn around and make a play

when you're behind a receiver. He was good enough to where he turns and picks the ball off. Instead of just trying to knock it down from him catching. Yeah, yeah. A series after that pick six that I just explained. No shit. Yeah, bro. Back to back series.

Yeah, he was a legend. Did he make plenty of money, hopefully? Oh, yeah, he made money. Yeah, he made money. Yeah, he made a money. But the thing about Luke that was so impressive. He seems like he ain't spending it either. Yeah.

He's probably driving a Volvo. Yeah. He did have a lot of concussions, but he was so physical in the beginning part of his career. And then once he started to have more head stuff, you could see him playing with his hands way more. Equally is effective. Equally able to shed blocks like to be, yeah, yeah, transition his game. To be, yeah. To go from that looky to vet and be more effective with less, it was.

Played at Boston College, right? Yeah, and he had like the record of tackles there. So, once again, I still don't know a ton about football. There was this old school running back. I think he was a white guy too for the Tampa Bay. Buckinghawksd. He was a fullback. I'll be scrolling through Insta sometimes and there'll be like a highlight clip of him.

I could, every time I'll sit there and watch it. He had the big brace on his like neck. Killing people, yeah. He was fucked. Like, was he like, Like, was he on the juice and shit? Like, what was wrong with the guy? Oh, who knows?

You talk about his playing days? He just like he, it seemed like they had late nights, woke up early for workouts. Like, he was part of an old school generation. Yeah. He's a, he's a classic cat that looks at everybody playing now and go, man, this generation's so soft. Yeah, well, we had him on the pod and he was saying that. He's like, yeah, I think you guys generation soft.

You're like, hey, hey, sorry, sir. He's sorry, Mr. Alston. I'm with you. You're right, though. I agree with you, sir. Sorry about the question. Mr. Allstead, I agree. I got a hose, boys.

What do I do? go ahead um here you hose and then when you when you come back i'll go hos unless you guys uh want to end this thing like what do you where were you guys we're at an hour right now yeah sure is that good enough i wouldn't just sign off since we have you both on i just sign off i think we're gonna end it no night uh hang on just go just let he'll go people okay sure i think too like we've had each of you on individually but having you both on collectively like you guys had us on and, you know, talk to the audience about our story.

Like, I would like to ask how you guys kind of got everything rolling. Yeah. I met with... Like his perspective, because he was still playing, right? You were playing? Yeah, okay, so from the podcast perspective, yeah. We should pin that until it gets back

so they can bounce off each other, though. Yeah, well, I'll tell you my side is, well, he got drafted by the Penguins fifth overall a year or two after I was drafted fourth round. So we ended up in the same organization. He played a lot more in the NHL, but the first year that I'd cracked the lineup, I got to play, you know, I was there for 26 games,

so I got to hang out with him and, like, never really connected with him that much in training camp, but he's just this fucking silly bastard from Boston. And through that short period of time, we connected, he ended up getting trading off. I played with his good friend, Keith Yandel. We kind of kept in touch. And then somehow ended up on a PTO together,

like a player tryout in St. Louis towards the back half of our career, when I never played another NHL game after that prior season. Yeah. So we were there on the PTO and we were just going to every meal together and hanging out and going out to the bar and having some beers. And we talked about this concept of creating a show together where you'd show up to the arena with your hockey bag. You'd crack it open in the hockey locker room and you'd have a six pack.

You'd never eventually put your gear on. You'd just sit there and tell stories and you'd have different guests on. And we thought the idea of like a YouTube show. So fast forward. I was still playing for another three years. He retired and he tweeted out like, hey, how about starting a podcast with a couple guys, one of me being on it. And I message him.

I said, hey, I'm not going to hang them up yet. And I can't start a podcast because I know how I am and I'll let it fly and I'll be fucking getting snipped before I know it. And he started one with rear admiral. And then Grenelli hopped on board. And by the time I retired and then did a film project and got one year of media under my belt and had been a guest on their show, Spitting Chicklets, he was like, hey, man,

like I talked to Grinnell, I talked to R.A. And we think that because you've been on and such a popular guest, you should come on full time. And it was the original idea. Like, you were one of the original guys. And so I'm like, yeah, like, and by the time I finished that first season and had that under my

belt of doing radio color commentary for the coyotes, I agreed to it. And the rest is history. I'd already had a Twitter base of a million people. So I also thought because I was comfortable on the mic and I already had an audience, it kind of just helped it grow that much more significantly

right off the hop where all of a sudden the people who are following me on Twitter like, oh, this guy's got a mic in his hands now all the time and he's letting it fly about anything. Yeah, I'll go listen to that. So I think at the time they were averaging probably what, like 30 to 50,000 listeners per point? I would have no idea.

Yeah, and it was, and then all of a sudden it exploded. We just, we gained momentum. And then after getting maybe 150,000 listeners on average, we were able to get our former teammate in Pittsburgh, Crosby in Halifax. And then we got Nathan McKinnon on that same trip. So we had these big milestone moments along with creating more vertical brands like the sandbagger. And it's just evolved over the last, I think it's been six and or seven years,

at least seven since I retired. So it's been magical and it's been unreal. and it's been a fun ride. And more importantly, like, we get to stay around the game and have a purpose when we wake up every day. Like we talked about earlier, like bringing these awesome interviews and getting to talk to these awesome guys

and bringing the fans a more exclusive inside look, like feeding what they want. So that was my rendition of how it all went down and I don't know what you'd have to say about it, witty now that you're back from Hosen. I told this story on the first time I came on the bus. It's pretty much exactly the same thing. And it's like, timing's everything.

Every time I meet somebody that asks about the pod, it's like timing's everything in life. You gotta get lucky. Podcasts as this thing began, I didn't even know what a podcast was really. They were so early. Did you try to start it now? It's just not, you know, it's not the same. We were lucky. We were not going to say we were first, but we were early on.

So timing's everything. He retires. He doesn't get in it right away. And like, who knows? Like, then I started with R.A. Right? Maybe he wouldn't have been in it had he already been retired. It said like, boom, then you got R.A. involved in it.

And then the way we met Grinelli, our audio broke. Me and R.A., one of the episodes, sat this close to each other, shared a microphone. And the audio ended up breaking or that might have been a different story. Either way, R.A. got an email that night. No, he'd gotten it a few weeks prior and ignored it. And then, and then whatever the receiver system R.A. had, it was janky. He was R.A. and like, you know, he just had it at his house. Like, this was mom and pop style, right?

And when it, when it broke, the, the episode. episode was obviously wasted. They've been talking into a mic for 50 minutes and nothing was being recorded. I'm sure, I'm sure Witt was thrilled. But that's when R.A. was like, oh, that kid reached out. And then boom, like Grinnell got the opportunity. Nice. And he's done. And Grinnell's evolved and learned so much. And it's just been an incredible experience. And like Witt said, very much a timing thing because podcasts weren't that popular. And, you know, I'm not saying we were the first hockey podcast, but we were the first one that I think that a lot of people had heard of just because of the reach that we had.

And also chemistry was important. And fuck me, you know, being in St. Louis hanging out with you, I think that we kind of understood that we were very much alike. And I play with Keith Yandel, who played over a thousand games. He's the Iron Man, another funny bastard from Boston. We're going to get him more involved in our podcast this year. He's one of my closest friends from home. Yeah.

That then played with biz and they became buddies. So I also He had been such good friends with Keith And I had met him first And then we're getting St. Louis I'm like We're true good friends And so it's like

This makes it a lot easier We also have honest conversations With each other too Like you guys am sure It's like That's being like good friends Like you gotta be honest about everything And we have been for the show

And for like us Yeah and I also like moving forward It would I We talked about the like building vertical Like we've done we've done game notes where Kobe Armstrong and Merle's, two of our buddies, who we also used to play within the Pittsburgh system. Like Army was already doing media and television.

Murals kind of got into it from the gambling side, but it's awesome and brings a whole different opinion and flair to, so they have their own like sister podcasts and they're going to keep evolving. Like I, Jans is going to get more involved with us where maybe when Kevin Hayes, his best friend, another player retires, they kind of come on board and we kind of want to make it. We kind of want to make it where we're all just snapping it around and get to travel around together. And we just have this awesome whack pack where we're kind of back on a team. You know, it's not just me, Witt, R.A. and Grinnell,

where there might be stories or relationships or experiences that Kobe Armstrong, Merle's, Yans have that are going to be different than us. And we want the hockey fans and fans of any sport to embrace all of it. So that's kind of where I would like to see it continue to branch. out and grow, but for the most part, everything we got going on right now, I'm, I couldn't be more thrilled about. That's fucking awesome. That was a long, that was a very long winded answer about what we going on.

Yeah, but it was nice. You painted a good picture. We were like, damn, it is kind of dope what they're doing. Yeah, right, right, right, right. There's obviously a lot of similarities between you two and Will and I. Would you guys ever bring on other NFLers, like to, like, as a part of the, like, the boss? I mean, we rock with Delaney Walker. Yeah, Delany Walker.

He does a locker room with this, our gambling show. Okay. They'll pop on the bus on spots. But yeah, I mean, we've definitely talked about stuff like that before, like scaling out the business and so if you can get athletes. Yeah, that to me is like, you know, I was in a dark place when I, when I, my last year in the NHL, after I left that PTO, I didn't have a deal. I couldn't even get an American hockey league deal. And I was like literally depressed on the couch to the point where like my muscles were sore and I'd never been like that before. So to kind of get somebody in the LA organization to extend an olive branch and for me to go on and win a call their cup, I just kind of feel like I would want to keep doing that to my buddies and give them that opportunity to where they can do it and have something after hockey too.

So it's going to be cool. I think it's going to keep happening for us and I really look forward to it. And like I said, I'm very grateful for everything we have. Would you ever want to coach? So it's funny you say that. I was going to ask in this interview, both of you, who do you think would make the better coach? I think that there's a possibility down the road that I would love to. But it's also like you got to start out at a lower level.

And by then at 45, 50, do I really want to ride the bus to all these games? Like, I think after this is all said and done, I think I'm kind of probably want to go chill. But you never know. I think that maybe would you win? I mean, you are with your son. Yeah, my son's first year might. six turning seven it's it's fun also at that age though it's tough like you know six and seven year olds eight year olds are not great listeners but i would love someday like you get to like 15 16 and you

see like legit like passion for the game yeah high school like i this this is uh like uh not a pipe dream but such a long way from ever happening but i could see myself liking it nchel a hl pro no chance these coaches you don't think you could be a i i i i'd de-coach at BU or would you want to? Oh, yeah, that's something that would be really, really cool to do. It would be really, really cool to do. I think that you could do that and balance that. But, like, not right now while I'm also doing this, but like someday.

But, yeah, that's something that's sick. But that's, like, those are good coaches making a ton of money that have done it their whole life. Like, that's hard. High school, you could more help out maybe, like, because I played in the NHL, but that's also, like, all of a sudden you go to a high school coach. Your son's trying out. You're like, hey, I'll help out coach. He's like, buddy, take a fucking high school.

You know? You know, I don't know. Like, do it for your kids. It's more like when they're a little older before they get into like high school hockey or something would be cool. I actually said recently, like sometimes it's hard. They mention how young they are. But I'm like, oh, I don't know if I want to do this. But you're like, you know what?

I don't know anything about anything besides hockey. Like, it was my life. It was so I'm giving back to the game. If I got a bunch of young kids and even one of them at the end of the season at eight years old, loves, not just as a better player, but loves hockey, like I'm giving back to the game. And coaching the NHL,

coaching the NHL, you are watching video like you were describing all day long and the travel and it's not for me. Yeah, just constantly breaking stuff down. To answer your question, Biz, I think Will would be, and not just a good,

I think he'd be an elite coach. Wow. I appreciate it, yeah, the way you'd be an NFL coach of your positions or like a, I think Will, yeah, I think very highly When it comes to the coaching category

I'm talking about real success Where he's managing all of the other coaches too? Oh yeah, head coach? How to handle a team? Wow, fucking Harry Knuckles, buddy. So if you look at Will's career And I'll gas the boy up for a minute, don't get weird Like neck up guy, like the reason why Will made it so long in the league

It was because of what he was able to process in his brain And he's taking all that and he does a great, He does a very good job painting a picture for you, even in telling stories or any type of situations. I know he can do that from a player standpoint, telling players where they need to have their eyes and coverages and stuff like that. And really does it get like,

like he loved, like you like, even play a warwolf? No. You ever play the game Mafia. It's like a card game where you're like, essentially there's two bad guys and the rest of us are trying to figure out who the bad guys are. It's like, it's a game of strategy.

Kid loves strategy, loves the game, risk like understands like the chess pieces that have to be made likeable cat easily easily could be a fantastic coach i don't know about you as a coach but i don't want to play you in battleship board game the way he's described yeah holy shit he's the second best risk i've never seen i was gonna say we have some fun nights playing risk you know what's funny about i got a hose quick is that uh i'm a hl you've seen a lot of examples or maybe more examples of of of the grinder of the guy who worked his dick off to get there and was maybe a fourth or a third-line player.

I'm not dog-new anyways, but those are the guys where it's like a superstar, like a Luke-Kookely. Keeckley. Not, this is just an example, but like maybe the game was so easy to him, it's harder to coach.

Whereas a lot of like third-line NHLers that were smart and like not just superstars with their skill, they make the best coaches. Yeah, because they understand. Maybe it's like NFL in it where you were like, you grinded, right?

Like, and you like had to know so much about the game to be successful like he's saying. Yeah. No, that's an interesting perspective. I could see you being a legendary high school football coach. Did I coach on high school football? Listening you talk about giving back to the game and stuff. Like coach on high school football would be so fun.

Even the little league, the way you was just explaining the little league kind of juice me up. It's not even though getting better. Like, yeah, if the kid's way better in March, as opposed to September 6th. But if he in March is like, I love hockey. Right. That's where you're like, dude, this is awesome. Yeah, when you said that too.

It's like they love the game more, like they want to watch it and consume it more. Because we love the game. It's like that would fire you up. Yeah. No, no, I like that. I don't know if I went in college or any of it. I've talked with Taylor about it. Yeah, we talk a lot about it.

Because, oh, go ahead, Will. I was just going to say, I'll ask the question. I would love to because it's at the highest level. And I do love, like, the strategy. I love, like, formulating, like, learning defense, hearing from the coaches kind of teach it. See, understanding what the weaknesses are. What do you want to show an offense? Like, I love that stuff.

I just don't know time commitment wise if I necessarily you know, should and need to do it. That's the thing. Because those guys, you gotta be all in, dude. You gotta be all in. And not that, like,

a lot of them have great families, but the family life to me just doesn't see. Yeah, buddy. Family life is crazy. NFL, NFL is not to hear about head coaches and you hear about, like, they don't see their family. Never all.

And even as players, like, you have hardly any time during the season. And their hours are way worse. I was just saying that, yeah, they're out. are way crazy than ours. Like for me, there is zero, like I have zero aspiration to be,

yeah, and part of that is probably, like, I have a lot of money and it's like, I'm sure, I don't know what I don't know. You know what? I don't know what I don't know.

I just have too many fucking O's in my bank account and I'm filthy rich. There's not a chicken dick's chance I'm coaching. I just can't, I just can't see it, man. To me, it's like, if you're able, yeah, there's probably a piece of that. I get infatuated with the idea

of so many other, other avenues of life to live to where like okay i've done football i wonder what else i could be really good at yeah that's what i'm like that's why that's why like you asked about coaching it would be it would be another challenge and it i would like but there's also a lot of other things in this world that i think i'm going to want to try to go do when i'm like when i'm 45 to 50 and then retire i might but then you might get bored of that too and then come back to what you know but like what are some other things that you would like to explore like i would like to get one of one of those earth romers and like go drive through south america and like go hiking and

go like a year trip where you just kind of dial out and get the fuck away once we would retire from being on like this every day on fucking twitter and all the fucking bullshit and all the business and then like when you want to eventually you just kind of like check out for like a year's time where you're like fuck off phone yeah and just necessarily be like that no no desire i have I have desired to be checked out of the phone and stuff, but I would never want to just, like, travel for a year. Yeah, for a year. I like being home.

I love going on a couple trips. Well, you would be. You'd just be living out of an RV. So basically, I don't want to live in your earth roam. Yeah. Would you ever do something like that? I probably would. It's weird.

You seem like more of a wild man. It's weird because we were in Montana this year. We were doing, um, me eater. It's like a hunting podcast. Yeah. Yeah. And me, Will and JP sat and had a conversation about like, we're in this, we're in Bozeman, but like this kind of local spot in

Bozeman and everything's slower, everything's moving us, and way slower pace. It's unbelievable. And we're having this conversation like, hey, wouldn't it be sick to essentially tell yourself it's okay to slow down. Yeah. And Will was having like aspirations that JP was and I was like, no. Like I want to keep fucking going.

Like I couldn't see myself doing it. And then this summer, I went to Canada with my wife. And it was the first time in my adult life that I sat back and I was like, this is fucking nice. This is nice. Like this is actually, I don't got, I don't have to do anything. I'm hanging out. I'm taking my kids to do X, Y, and Z.

I talked about my seven-year-old how I walked in her room. Yeah. When she's like getting seven, you just kind of realize, like, they're just getting older. It's not slowing down at all. It's not slowing down at all. It's happening so quick. Because I do have, I, there's a piece of me that would love to go into the entertainment aspect to see if I could act. Oh, yeah.

Oh, I love doing it. I love doing silly skills. I always tell Fizz, I think he could act. Oh, yeah. If R.A can do it. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Are he's a great, a testian. Yeah, he's a Tespin. I want to hit Shorzie because it's like one of my favorite shows. You want to get a cameo on there? I would love it. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. But all that to be said, like, after that trip in Canada, I was like, you know what I want to do is I want to be able to like, when we hang it up, like, just be like the ultimate dad.

And get my, I want to get my pilot's license, get a small little plane, rip the family. Yeah, I'd be able to rip around. Just go rip around and kind of do whatever. Like, if I can mentally get to that state, I think that's the best. a way of growth. That is awesome. You want to, we can all go, we've all put ourselves in a position to go achieve any goal we want because we've, you know, we have the financial freedom and now we get to do this and this

opens more and more doors. But the ability to say no and being like, oh yeah, that's what I'm trying to learn. Yeah. That's kind of where I'm at. That's something that's kind of messed with me mentally is like, I really enjoyed that time. I really had a great time with my family. I thought that was so awesome. I was like, how do I expand on that more and kind of like just fully immerse myself in

that. Yeah, no. You feel yourself always chasing something. Yeah, always on your shoulder about whatever, whatever thing. I don't have that feeling. You do or don't? No, you're good. Yeah, what's really good about balance you eat. Yeah, that's... I don't have that feeling at all, and I think sometimes it'd be helpful to have it more.

Oh, we lost the camera, so we'll... Oh, that's okay. I'll just want to check it. I'm sorry. No, no, no, not at all. We should hang it up soon. Yeah, we're got to get the twisted question. Yeah, we'll do twist the question, but I want to talk Shores you for a second. Okay. I've never watched it

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're still good Sorry about that guys So yeah, Shorzy RA obviously wasn't the last two seasons Have you guys been reached out to it all About being on that show? No, I actually got asked to do Letterkenny early days God, that had been sick

Yeah, and I got the role of like Basically I was just like ripping lines And I was a maniac And so basically myself, method actor At least at that time And then the coyotes, it was my first year and I hadn't even been on the podcast yet. And I put it across my boss's desk and he said, no, you can't.

Like the team would basically fire me and then I'd be out of a job. So that was a missed opportunity. And then it kind of just never really came back up because they had the spinoff show. But fortunately for a guy, Terry Ryan, who we have on the podcast all the time, he's 10 Hitchcock. Oh, for real? Yeah. I think that Jared Kiso kind of learned the legend of Terry Ryan through our podcast. I may be mistaken.

That's at least what Terry Ryan says. So there have been people from our podcast, including R.A., who have touched the show. I would be honored to be asked. I don't know what my character or what I would do on it. But yeah, I would love to do that. And Witt's good, too. We did that McDavid commercial for Body Armor, and you were fucking 10 to 10. And you're really good at ad lipping.

Thanks, bro. We did a Pink Whitney commercial that played like during the NHL playoffs. I'm talking. Time for harder shot. Three times a game for four months, and people were like, yeah, it's like, get these guys off my fucking television. Enough of these, too. No shit.

Is it Paul Bissonette or Paul missed in that? Dude, I remember it was, it was probably. Buddy. That was the line. That was the line. That was the line? That was the line? Buddy, three or four times every single game, all playoffs long, people wanted me dead.

People wanted me dead. There's a huge, there's a huge miss for you. you not, well, them not reaching out to you about Shores, like, being a legitimate part of that cast? No, I, but I, but I, the whole thing was washed up, like, washed up hockey players. Yeah. Just let's bring a bunch of vets, savvy vets in and have them play. Yeah, no, I just, it just didn't work out for timing.

I don't think it was. I think I said football players. Yeah. Hockey players. Yeah, oh, no worries. No worries. Yeah, it just didn't work out. But they've done such a good job.

Like, Jericho's a legend. And, like, he lives up, I think, north of Montreal with his, with his wife. I think he's got a kid or two. and he just writes these scripts and he has his own team and he executes it. Like there's so much time and energy that goes into that shit. And I think that they just signed a deal

where they're going to be doing at least two or three more seasons after this one they're currently filming. So he's a, he's a G. His, uh, his talent, his creativity is, oh, yeah. It's so impressive. It all spun off of letter. To write, produce, act, star.

Oh, yes. I think the world of Jericho is. Oh, have you met him? No, but I, I just had from him and his craft. Oh, he would love it. He would love you. I bet you he would give you a part in the show. Well, I want to earn it.

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They respect us now. Now? Oh, yeah. It was starting, but in like the 70s, I bet there was not much. And then all of a sudden this generation of players in the NFL came in. Yeah, not even then, though. Like that in 1980, that... It's because the NHL was mostly Canadian stars, you know.

And USA hockey is just built and built and built. And the growth of it in the United States where all of a sudden, like Dallas, when did Dallas get there around like 97, 98? Probably 95, 95, 96. Maybe 95. So all of a sudden now that they have a youth program, they have former players that love Dallas, no state tax, made all this money down there and they get to live in a nice place in the states,

well, they're helping coach now. it's just like there's just so many more American kids playing and who have access to the game and access to even unreal Canadians who ended up settling down in the state. So I would say that going into the next Olympics, it's a coin toss. Like it could be U.S. or Canada who wins. We have McDavid. We have McKinnon. We have Kail McCar.

But the state still has guys like Matthews and Jack Hughes. Yeah, they probably have like highest end talent. They got the guys, three or four of them. then we have maybe one person right there, two people, but then when you go after that, the depth, we're right there. It's right there. But they have McDavid and they have McKinnon and they have Crosby. You know, Crosby's older, but McDavid and McKinnon.

We have Matthews, but they got two of them. Yeah. So it's amazing, though, and now it's going to be, 2026 in Italy, we're going to try to go and cover it. First best-on-best tournament in the Olympics since 2014. team. So all of these stars for the past 10 years have never played best on best on best in the Olympics.

Yeah, Crosby and McDavid have never played together on team Canada, best on best. And they'll have the opportunity at the four nations, which is this year. It's almost like a precursor to reintroduce best on best. There's only four teams which sucks. But the Olympics, especially if they get Russia back in the mix. They need Russia.

They need Russia. I don't give a thought of the best on best. I don't care if they're cheating. I don't care if they're shoving needles. up their arse to put them in the Olympics. You just need them there. If you win a best on best Olympic gold medal and like Russia's best team isn't in there, it's a little bit of an aster.

Where's Russia rank? They're always a top four? Top four. Yeah. So just give me the top five real quick. So it's Canada, America, Russia. Sweden, Finland, Russia. Canada, Sweden, Finland, Russia.

And then U.S. That's the top five. Fuck off, Fiz. What do you mean? Oh, I thought you were saying the U.S. was fifth. No, no, not in that order. Those are the five. No, absolutely not.

But Czech Republic's very good. Slovakia is getting better. Austria has some players. Germany's getting better players. Norway has a couple players. Denmark has a couple players. So it's growing. Now, it's never going to be in South America.

It's never going to be in Africa. Yeah. It's never going to be like soccer. I mean, football's kind of similar. You're actually mostly North America, right? We're pretty much. We're pretty much on America. game, but there are some areas that'll just never have it.

Yeah, I wonder why the money's not bigger in hockey, because it is more global. Because TV, it's not transferable exactly like the NFL. But it's going up. It's going. But you have more people all over the world watching, putting a game on as opposed to. Amazon's going to end up picking it up full time, I'd imagine. We have sports, also sports net in Canada. We have TSN in Canada, TNT, ESPN, and who knows, maybe there's,

there's eventually another American network that does. It's Gary Bettman and the NHL is doing it a better job of it, giving it exposure. So I think revenues are going to continue to soar. And I think the league is in the best place it's ever been. And you're going to see growth everywhere, I think exponentially in the United States in the next 10, 15 years. And I think that there's a strong chance that they end up taking over as the top hockey nation, although it might not be the most popular sport in the country. Canadians might scald me for saying that,

but it comes down to population resources. The university programs are getting better. They're, I think, opening up, anyway, I'm getting long-winded with it. U.S. is in good shape. I think that's a good pod. That was a great Paul, boys. Good, great pod.

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And me stereotypically having the bad questions, I got to deliver. So first question. What sport is more physical? Hockey or football? We got spit and chick with guys. We got you guys. Kind of pick which one's more physical? The second one.

Who would you rather? fight on ice. Mike Tyson, who can skate or a mountain lion that has never been on ice before, but you know they're scrappy. Final question, and I think this might be the best one, are there more eyes

or are there more legs in the world? And this includes animals. Which one do you think there are more of? Those are your twisted questions for this week? First question is, what do you think is more physical? Football is way more physical. Hockey or football? Football is more physical. All right, settled.

82 games more. of a grind in a sense but yes football I think we're all on consensus there next one Mike Tyson or Mike Tyson that can skate or fight a cougar that has never been a nice I would like to I choose the cougar sounds crazy but I

hopefully he keeps slipping on ice like if you tight turn maybe at some point he wears you down but if Tyson can fly and catch you he's going to kill you well I guess you you could just kind of keep skating away from the it's a mountain lion yeah I guess so just keep fucking jukeing it like it'll tire out and eventually kind of

quit on you. And you can start using them skates as weapons, too, eventually. That's true. That's true. That's true. I take the mountain line as well. Yeah. And then what was the third question?

Third one. Eyes? Yeah, man. Are there more eyes or legs? Who's animals? I know, I was thinking eyes too. Because they have legs and eyes. Yeah, but I think.

Yeah, because flies got shit loads of eyes, huh? There's a lot of, I think. It seems to be, yeah. Insects. A lot of eyes. What's the answer? What's the answer? It's eyes.

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