Bussin' With The Boys - Rich Eisen FINALLY Joins The Boys On The Bus

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

Recorded: August 4th, 2024 780 Days.. more than two trips around the sun. Will and Taylor have been waiting to make this one happen for a long.. LONNNNG time. Rich Eisen is finally here folks! First things first.. was there ever really beef between The Boys and Rich? What was the final straw that made Rich crack and come to Nashville? Are the tier 1's the true reason Rich came on the pod?! We find all that out and more when Rich deep dives into his thoughts on Jack's "post a photo of Rich" tweet chain, and rather or not Jack truly deserves a brand new (and extremely dependable) Chevy Silverado. The Boys then ask Rich about his career and how he got to the NFL Network. Rich does an awesome job of describing his trajectory throughout the sports media world. How he got his start after graduating from Michigan.. his love for all sports, (especially baseball) and his time spent at ESPN. We also have a longer intro than usual for the true tier 1's. We were visited by our Black Friday Contest Winner, Taylor and Will broke down what NFL Preseason looks like as a player, and finished with some marriage advise for Bussin' Producer, JP Hovey. (Be sure to wish JP "good luck" this weekend down in the comments. He's officially tying the knot!). If you're a long time listener.. we've been waiting quite some time for this episode! First time here? Well then we hope you enjoy our 289th Episode Featuring: Rich Eisen! Big hugs, and some itty bitty kisses.. 0:00 Intro 0:49 Middle Names Are Tough 3:49 Rich Eisen Made It On The Bus 4:51 Black Friday Winners 14:44 NFL Preseason 39:42 Shoutouts OTW 52:01 JP's Wedding Week/Advice To Newlyweds 58:23 RICH EISEN INTERVIEW STARTS 58:26 Ladies And Gentleman, We Got Him 1:11:16 Is Bussin Their Own Boss? 1:14:35 The Roast Of Tom Brady 1:29:20 Rich Was Almost A Comedian 1:32:29 Watching The Media World Change 1:38:25 Going To NFL Network 1:51:50 Stuart Scott 2:04:37 NFL Combine 2:05:53 Run Rich Run 2:20:22 Michigan’s Asterisk By The National Championship 2:29:50 NFL Is Scripted For The Chiefs 2:35:52 Should A Team Be Proud Of Going 6-6 2:48:09 Rich’s Longevity In Media 2:50:29 Tier Talk - Best Kids Sports Movies 3:00:30 When Does Jack Get His Silverado? 3:15:00 Twisted Question OTW 3:16:03 Most Starstruck Guest He Has HadFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, rolling. Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to another episode of Bustin with the Boys. Boys. We are the boys, William Earl Compton III, and Taylor Curtis Luan. Do you have to say the middle name? But yep. That's your middle name. I know. I just hate it. I know. I used to hate Earl. I know. I got made fun. I know, but I got made fun of a lot as a young lad. But like what parent, especially a father, has a kid come out of the womb, a son and names him Taylor, which is like mostly a girl's name? Unisex name. Pops on Curtis on top of that. I just got a bitch-ass name. I might have to switch it up.

legally changed my name. What would you change it to? I don't know. Would you keep Taylor? I think you have to. I've gone to enjoy Taylor. I've gone to enjoy Taylor. I probably would not do this, but I think no bad it is in a brainstorm.

Yeah. What middle name would you go with? You know, I think I've always thought it'd be funny for a person to actually have the middle name danger. Because I was always like the bit when you're in middle school, like my middle name is danger. But I think being 33, it's kind of not cool. Especially with some of the stories you had growing up where you were kind of intimidated by. a lot of things. Oh yeah, I was a...

Like a fastball. Like a movie. Yeah, Lord of the Rings. Yeah. Get it tackled. At 12 years old. Yeah, that was... I mean, you saw the first Lord of the Rings, didn't you?

Yeah. And the black horses? The black guys in the black cloaks. Yeah, pretty badass. Chasing that small little man. Danger. No, that's terrifying. I got a...

Now... I got a middle name. Go ahead. You want to hear it? I do, but I don't like to make the way you're sizing it up. I do want to hear it. Go ahead. I would change your middle.

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For more details, awards based on 2022 to 2024 models. That's a longer. That was a long read. That was a long read. Yeah, long read. Long read. This is a massive episode for 770, I believe at this point we filmed this episode two days. We've been tracking down one man.

What's that? 739. And we filmed this, it was 772. And we said we had to keep it going for the sake of everything. Today would be 780. Today is 780. 780. 780.

And 80 days. We've been tracking down the beacon. the number one man for NFL network, a man that was with ESPN for a long time, ended up traveling over when there was a small nucleus of NFL network happening, who now blossom into the face of that channel. You know him as, Rich Eyes.

Let's give a round of applause. Boys, we finally got him. We finally got him. We finally got him. Not only that, in less than a week's time, when the next episode comes up, our man, J.P. Hovey is finally tying the knot, getting the ball in chain,

starting himself a family. he is going to be mayor let's give a round of applause out here an absolute time and Black Friday winners we got a whole half dozen of them in here we got the boys in the back we'll introduce yourselves a little bit with the mic let's give them a round of applause would that be saying why not add more white guys of the bus no question this is not a this is the least diverse group I've ever seen in my entire life

let's get some mics on the boys mouths and let's talk a little shop here boys introduce yourself age how old you were when you lost your virginity and why you're a fan of the browns uh Andrew AJ Betley on 23 um

age I lost my virginity 16 nice respectable age respectable age is a great age and then why I'm a fan of the Cleveland Browns

um I just love misery uh that's all they do to me is make me fucking miserable so yeah isn't that the best though I mean misery because one day

hopefully hopefully you guys will hoist that Lombardi trophy and that will make the miserably All worth it. Let's pass that mic down. Who we got next?

Will Souter. I'm 23, born into the cult of Brown's family, sadly. Eighth grade when I lost my virginity. Wow! Yeah. Strong. Nice, man.

Thank you, yeah. I didn't think my piece worked in eighth grade, man. I don't know if mine did great. Yeah, well, I promise you it didn't. It did for me. Eighth grade. Can you set the tone? where was it at?

On a pool table. On a pool table is your first time? Yeah. All right. Clay Maston, 25. I think I was 17. Good. Good boy.

It's kind of embarrassing. Lost my virginity in a car in a McDonald's parking lot. Nice. Gas station parking lot for me. Nice. You eat before or after? No, no. No, no.

It was like no eat, no eat, no eat. All business. All business straight to the business. It was like 2 a.m. Yeah. I don't even know if they were. You just pulled over to the side of the road. Yeah.

So here's Mickey D's right here. Right now. Right here right now. Yep. That's how the 17 brain works. Yeah. Got to get it with how you live. D3.

Go ahead. Yeah. No, I was just going to talk about how state, but go ahead. I was going to say where did you play D3 at? Marietta College. Shout out Marietta. All right. Shout out Marietta.

Where's that? Right on the border of Ohio and West Virginia. Okay. Yeah. It's like right there on the river. There you go, Mitch. you got another D3 boy. You guys feel good about your chances this year going to the game.

You guys spent more money on NIL than any other team in all of college football. You feel good buying your way to a championship? You feel strong about that? They haven't won a championship. Buying your way to a championship. That's what their hopes are this year. Well, I'd rather buy it than cheat to get it. I.

You guys forget about your tattoo scandal, huh? Back in 2015. The tattoos. Yeah, forget about that. Cheating getting free stuff before. They did get punished. We got punished for what? Getting you get to a bowl game for a year?

Yeah, wow, what happened to Michigan? We didn't do anything wrong, so nothing, brother. Oh, really? Nothing went wrong. Hey, debatable. Everything's debatable, dude. People are, if people out there saying the earth is flat, you want to bet that too? Hey, I love, I love it.

You guys are fired up. You guys have lost three in a row, but somehow you still have pride. It's amazing. How many do you lose their arm before that? I think we won two in 20 years. We won two in 20 years. Dog years. It was the dog years, dude.

You're forged in fire. You get your ass beat around for a little. little bit. You can only get your ass beat for so long before you stand up to a bully. So as it stands right now, Michigan is the most recent national champion of college football. And we're just built on grit, dude. We're built in the trenches. You guys paid a lot of money for your squad in Columbus, Ohio. Excited for that game. It's going to be awesome. But everyone's got a plan until they hit in the mouth. All right. That money is great, but it can't protect you on the field. How we feel? How we feel? Well, I mean, we got that new quarterback, Drew, you've heard of remember.

Yeah, I saw a couple of clips of him throwing picks in practice. Yeah. You don't know Drew, the new quarterback at Ohio State? I feel like this is a D's nuts joke. It could be. It very well could be. You see him rubbing that leg, he's about to start a fire. Say, Drew Who? No.

Okay, I will. I will. Drew Peacack. No. A droopy sack joke. I got it. I got it. You see my hat.

I try to get on my chest right now. I'm a little nervous right now. I tried to set it up, but that was. Well, the. thing you probably would have got me except for I'm still hurting from McPherson getting me back in November. Sukk on these nuts. And it was just so well done.

We do, speaking to Jack, a week of judgment. As you guys will find out on this podcast, Jack was tasked with the challenge of tweeting a photo of Rich Eisen every day until he came on the bus. This is day 780. He's still going strong. And now this next week, we start to break. down, we audit, we look at all of his tweets dating back 780 days. And if there are flaws, we built some parameters in the episode that you guys will hear, you guys will listen to.

And I encourage all listeners, if you're on the, if you're on X, you know, do the homework yourself too. Like keep us in the loop. Maybe there's something we miss. Help us, help us uncover every stone in these last 780 days because Jack is fighting for an opportunity to win a Chevy Silverado. If he did not miss a day, he will be gifted a Chevy Silverado from the boys to Jack for tweeting a photo every day of Rich Eisen. Jack, how are we feeling? Obviously, we had Rich on. How have you felt? Talk about your emotion going into it. Two and a half years in the making. It's just one of those things we've been working for for a while. I mean, I've got a niece. She's only a year and a half old and I'm like, man, you don't even know the lore that's been going on in my life. Like,

I've been working for you, you know? So this all goes out to my niece, Izzy. He's This is for you. You know, if it works out, it works out. If it doesn't, it's been a fun run. And we got to figure out a new guest, I think. I think we do because it kind of feels like we should just hang it up with Bustle with the boys now we've gotten rich on. Yeah. Yeah.

It feels that way. And maybe it's a sitting president. Maybe it's Taylor Swift. I don't know. Comment in the YouTube who we should go after next. Ryan Reynolds. Oh, Ryan. That's it.

That, yeah. Maybe Ryan and Hugh. That is a lot of words to be type. out two tags, you realize. I know it's, it doesn't seem like a lot, but after two and a half years tweeting the same thing every day, it's just like a, it weighs on you, you know. I don't know how though I move forward not having rich in my life every day. That is something I'm, I'm not prepared for. I know I'm excited for it, but it's, it's bittersweet. So I don't know. Confidence level zero to 100. 100. 1. Wow. Actually, 780, you know, so.

No, I'm excited. And, you know, Rich is just such a great interview. He's been in the media realm for 20 plus years. And it felt like he was driving this podcast where it was almost he was interviewing y'all. I know. He's very good. He's quick.

And he can get a little nasty sometimes. He can get nasty. And he's a guy you don't want on your bad side. I've realized. For sure. If you come at him, he's coming at you with three more things. So I will say to the Ohio boys,

you're lucky. Rich Eyes is not here right now. to defend Michigan. I can only do so much. My brain has to get too many shots, but Rich, he's pure blood. Yeah, he's sharp. He's with it.

He talks about how they got away with it. He lied, like a rug. I mean, ultimately you guys still won the national title. Yeah. And we beat you all 45 to 7. Yeah, but you guys are sign stealing. We didn't need to steal signs to do that, brother. Yeah, you guys did.

It wouldn't have been that bad. It would not have been, no, we would have covered. What do you think the score? We would have covered. What was it? What was the line? 20? 20.

We would have covered. Yeah, we would have covered. No. No, we got, we got. They got bumrusting. Remember, that was when we were at Michigan in the elements. The year before, though, Aiden Hutchinson's senior year,

they kind of did, took that game from us. Agent Martinez has not fumbled the ball. Remember that last drive? We were driving to win. All right. Hey. I know. It's all good, man.

You're right, you're right. It's all good. I'm out of control. Yeah, so the audience is, taking place at this moment. I will say good news for you is the record only goes back to, I think, like, day 108.

Why is that? I don't know. The record? The Rich Eisen, the Rich Eisen, the Rich Eisen tweeting at him. I could only find all the way down to, like, stop loading after like,

day 108 of tweeting at Rich Eisen until he comes on plus with the boys. I'm impressed you got past like 750. Whoa. I mean, no, that's not like a shot. I mean, I know who I am. Absolutely.

That's a heavy shot at your brain. Yeah, that's, no, that's technology. Yeah. That's technology. I think he'll be the first to tell you. Yeah. He's not the most tech savvy guy, but he's there. He's there and he's ready to learn.

Yeah. He's eager. I put some work in on this. I've gone through the audit. Yeah. I've worked. Yeah. And we will find out next week on next week's episode. I'm fired out.

Oh, so it's next week. So, but just to clarify, as of today, we're done tweeting, though, because Rich is on the bus. I think if you want to tweet at him, you can. It doesn't, but it's not going to change anything. Yeah, yeah. Today's the final day. Today's the final day. You were just saying how you're going to miss Rich.

If you want to do it for the love of the game. Well, it's tomorrow, I guess technically, he's on the bus. So we'll just make it 781. Yeah. Why not? Why not? You'll throw another one up just for the love of the game. I might just go all the way to next week.

Just keep going past it. Go to a thousand. Yeah. Why not another year? Yeah. It's for the love of the game, always. Did you catch any preseason ball? I got some clips.

Absolutely. I put on the, the Titans last drive with Will Levis. And it's preseason, so you're never looking at like score or anything like that. I was looking at operation. How guys were handling themselves, like calls and all that.

Titans got a ball club this year. Titans have a ball club. Their play calls were good. It was the first time, I think, in the last 10 years, as Titan fans, we can all sit there and say, we don't know what's coming next.

A couple of runs, a couple of passes, through a screen in there, some movement. I think that's going to be a good ball club they stay healthy they might take this out they are they stay healthy much good yes i mean d'andre hopkins already out oh aridly yeah but calvin ridley it's not looking good calvin ridley guys got he runs like they the you when you have a performance coach with you and he's like this

is the the knee action you want this is the arm action that's how he runs yeah he runs like you watch the olympians roll pollard and spears a good little devil have it back there dude i think that's that's that's the key Receiver core has obviously been the most notable thing for the Titans. We have a whole new team. It feels like on offense. But Taj and Tony, it's just a way different system with Derek not being here. And I think that is going to be two elite running backs in the NFL. Paul, you have a couple of great elite.

I'm saying right now. Maybe the best duo in the league you're saying. I mean, maybe top three for sure. Potentially number one. Potentially number one. There was a nice one. I think it was the first quarter going into the second quarter. they were kind of on the five-yardland.

They were in like an inside zone with a tight end coming back. And it was Chig, and he had a great block. And I don't know if it was Pollard or Spears, but they made a nice little jump cut, hit it on the backside for a touchdown. It was just great to see that movement. Great to see that movement behind the line of scrimmage.

Which Derek Henry, right? Like, he is, there should be a statue of Derek Henry at the Titans. That was not his forte, is making those types of cuts in the backfield. And just the boys playing with their hair on by her. Just playing hard. Dude, I know it's early.

I know it's early, but it seems like this could be one of the more fun years through the quarterback position. I feel like the young rookies look good. J.J. McCarthy looked good. Look fantastic. Caleb Williams looked incredible. I only saw one. I only saw him with that great throw on the sidelines where he moved out to the right

and he threw it. You didn't see his little Patrick Mahomes screen? No, I did not see his Patrick Mahomes screen. Fantastic? Yes. I think it's going to be an exciting year for quarterback. Did you see the clip of, of two guys at practice, at a bear's practice,

essentially dogging Caleb on his look, but he's the number one overall pin. No, they're like, look at him. Zero swag, zero anything, first overall pick. They seem like they got themselves a little squad here. That's going to be a fun week one Titans versus Bears. That'll be a fun little get-after game. Big Cat's already claiming that Caleb Williams is the chosen one.

I'm sure he is. And like Big Cat keeping clean slates for everybody, I'm not going to dog the Chicago Bears. I'm not going to dog them. Yeah, I think a lot to be excited about, though. But I know the early line is like bears are favored by four and a half in this game. I get to Titans. I think they take Titans money line all day on that one.

I mean, you just look at the north. If J.J. McCarthy and Caleb Williams with Jared Gough, Jordan Love, I mean, dude, it's going to be a fun year. The AFC South, you got Will Levis. C.J. Stroud. Lawrence. Lawrence and Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson. And if he just stays healthy.

That one, it's like, and I'm part of it too. I'm excited for Anthony Richardson, but I feel like he has so much hype. Like he's the most hyped quarterback. Who, which one? Hasn't done a whole lot yet. Five games was awesome. Yeah, five games was awesome.

His first five games were great. It was fun to watch. Exciting. One guy was falling into the radar. And our man, Hovey, the groom to be has called him out. Spencer Rattler. From the jump, man. I don't know why nobody would listen.

Back in Arizona, too, in his home state. Getting after it. And he saw it. It felt good to be back. home just it was cool to see two minute drill yeah two minute drill two minute drill was nice nor the rookie quarterback did that stetson bennett even next stetson bennett's 30 well he's playing in a growing man's game now he look comfortable yeah i mean i'm happy for him but are you we're all eyes on rattler right now all eyes on now

what do you think rattler takes over the qb spot this year probably like week 10 week 11 that seems to be the sweet spot for Derek Carr where every single year, no matter what team he's on, you get to week 10, week 11, the fans are ready. Like, get DC out. Damn, we'll see. Wouldn't mind if he sat all year and then started next year. Right, right, right, right. Take a full year to develop, not get thrown in when like pressure is weirdly high. They want the starter out. Yeah, but if you're calling for a starting quarterback's head, week 10, or week 11, it's probably the season's not looking great for you guys. But not with Derek Carr, I feel like they're always right there. Yeah, I was going to say they were

like in it all year last year because the the south wasn't that competitive wasn't that competitive yeah i know you saw i know you had to see the the clip of james winston given a pre-game speech no i didn't but it's incredible i mean he's a hall of famer he's a yeah he's a hall of fame speaker first baller just watching him in bravel sprint during every practice to go warm up i think you have to put him in the hall of fame just so he can give a speech just so he can be at the ceremony and give a speech i don't see any problem with that at all yeah it wouldn't hurt the integrity of those at all. I think everybody would be on board with it. No question. Where do you think

he goes after football? I feel like he's either got to be a pastor or a coach. I would love to see him as a pastor. That would be outstanding. Yeah. I think he might dabble in some media, but ultimately I think he'll want to be around the game. He'll want to be around influencing the

next generation. He should write speeches in football movies. He would have to act. That's the thing about James is I feel like he's so unique. Like who else could be James, you know what I mean, if he writes for somebody else. You don't know how to write for anybody else. He knows how to write for himself.

He could definitely play himself in a movie. Cub kidding Jr. Yeah, man, it's exciting having the football season just right around the corner. We were right there. Did you catch any of the reps on the new kickoff rule? Yeah, I saw the Titans had themselves a nice little 65-yard run. They did. On this little deal here.

I don't fully understand you can't. There's like a little zone between the 20 and the end zone. If it lands in there and something happens, if it doesn't. You can't move to the returner catches it. My brother-in-law explained it pretty well. So from where the kickoff is, it makes kickers not just rely on touchbacks. If you send it into the back of the end zone, I believe it goes to the 40. Right.

And if you don't hit it between the- Is it the 40? Or the 30- I was going to say, okay. There's one though, maybe if it's short of the 20 to the goal line, it goes to the 40 because there's one stipulation where you can go all the way to the 40. I know usually if you kick it out of bounds, it goes up. out to the 40.

Yeah, but maybe if it's super. Yeah, it has to land in that zone from goal line to the 20 yard line, which it feels weird right now, but I do like that kickers are now forced to be strategic about it, and they've got to place it there. And I feel like we're going to see a lot more returns. And my favorite thing about it is that kickers are going to be very involved in plays. They have to make tackles. I've already seen a few kickers, like have to get in the mix.

And I'm ready to see some guys land in the wood. So I think that'll be fun. I like it, man. I think it's like, it's close to an offensive. defensive play as you can get because you take all the running out of and sprinting out of it, which hats off to those guys who don't have to just sprint mindlessly for a touchback anymore. But I'm into it. And there's one line of defense too.

Yeah. Like you break the, that's where you get the kicker involved. Like he's essentially just deep, hoping to God, they get him down. I think as it develops too, there'll be more strategy on the receiving end, trying to like set up blocks. Some will fail massively. But I think people are going to start taking like changes, risk to, to figure out how they can best set up the play. I know.

I love seeing the development of special teams games. Just like the field goal, for instance, when you, I was the Patriots who did it, had the guy on the sideline, and he would start running, and then he'd see the hand, and then he'd get in there and make a block.

Then you'd see like four or five other teams doing it. That's like the biggest definition of copycat league is the special team's realm. You see a little bit of success and everybody starts doing it, just constantly evolving. Yeah. It's going to be a lot of fun.

Taking a trick play back from like eight years ago that happened to them. They had it like grainy film. They're showing it in the team meeting room. My boys is what we're doing this when you're thinking, there's no fucking way. This is going to work. And then it does.

Hey, Will. Can you take us kind of in the mind of a special teams guy? Because in preseason, obviously, you know, after the first half of a game as a fan perspective, you know, people start leaving the stadium. You're like, whatever. We've got a few more games.

But for special team guys in punt formation specifically, I get super fired up about him because as someone who's undrafted, it's like they're fighting for their families. on these like one or two reps they get, can you just like take us to the mindset where you're like, I need this rep, I need this tackle to make like a 53 man roster. Take us on a journey, Willie.

Take us on a journey. So you're basically saying like, it's like unpopular to watch the specialty. You're just saying like, what is the mindset of these guys or fringe guys? Yeah, I had this moment where I was like, this means so much these guys, these one reps and they kind of fired me up

where I'm looking at pump formations and I'm like, this means a lot more than a lot, lot of these other guys that got their shoulder pads off on the sideline it's like you're probably the nerves are probably going crazy and then you know half the stadium's empty but for you it's like this is the final interview or could be you know so yeah so when i was on practice squad the first year i would say my knock is i wasn't very good on special teams because i didn't really do it in college but i feel like when you're on those units and you can say you're a depth player i could play linebacker i could back up either spot i could do all those things so you'll be

be thrust it in the roles of like, hey, you know, can you feel whether it's right guard, whether we have a need at left tackle, right wing, where you can play on the punt team, the punt team is the most important unit for guys who are on the fringe because ultimately that's the biggest trust one. Kickoff, you can run down and hit where you're not running anymore. So honestly, you're going to see those guys who are gunners on punt team. Those guys can still make their money being gunners on punt team. But now that kickoff is out of it, you'll have more of those depth guys who play, you know, backup, whether it's tight in, running back, receiver, linebacker, safety. And those reps on punt team are the most important reps that you will have

because ultimately you're not being looked at as the guy who's going to be out there starting on the field. Whereas, okay, comp, he's a good depth guy, but can he play special teams? And more specifically, like, where can you play him on punt? The more you can do on punt team, guard, tackle, wing, the better your chances are. Because if you can't play on special teams, it doesn't matter how good of a backup you are. You won't be on the starting, you won't be on the game day roster until you can get up to speed on playing those.

So those truly are the most important reps. And they get graded insanely detailed with the special teams coordinator and those guys who are like trying to make that roster, it is legitimately, can you play multiple spots on the punt team? That is your best shot at making the team. If you're a fringe guy. If you're a gunner, if you can beat double teams,

you can play for a long. time. You look at, what was his name? Slater. Slater made a career out of that. Ebner, he was a big special teams guy. Who knows how competent they were as backups, but the fact that they could play special teams at a very high level allowed them to have a career at that. If you're somebody who's more of a depth guy who plays more on the field, you have to have some level of competence like playing special teams or you just won't, you won't play. It is legitimately, you go out there and all you think to yourself is, I need to have one tackle this game. If you sit there as a fan and you want to watch real football in a preseason,

you've got to wait to that second half because that's when bullets are truly flying. It is so intense. And every rep does mean everything to those guys. And it sucks when you see dudes that you can see kill it. They have like 10 tackles or whatever. And they just, for whatever reason, the numbers don't make sense. They get the call at the end of those cuts. Because it is a wild time.

Preseason is so different for so many different people just going into it. The urgency, yeah, like the, like the weird, what is it? Like, just fight or flight just that is happening in your brain chemically, like going out on the field, trying to like make the most of your, whether it's special teams reps, like if you're slow to get off a block, you're just cussing yourself out in your head like, fuck, I'm going to, coach is going to hate this. Right. This might be the end of me. This might be the end.

Right. Yeah. Because it's so small. The margin for error is so small. Right. Because preseason, like ultimately you got, you're trying to look for your start. You're trying to see your starters have some. operation out there like feel good going into the first week fans they're excited to see the guys who are

going to start who do they get to watch is the starting quarterback going to get some snaps and see who's going to round out certain death but the second half stuff nobody necessarily cares about but there's so much happening in that second half all of the articles that are coming out about the rookies and the starters and how good everybody looks it's all fluff right now everything's just fluff because it's like these guys are getting like 15 snaps it's like what your beak a little bit get out there get loose feel the fans, feel the operation, all that stuff. But the real stuff is the things people aren't writing about, which is that second half. There might be a couple of things like, hey, this guy looks good, that guy, but you really don't know. Like, that's where the stuff really matters right now in the

preseason. And the guys who are like in the 90, like probably 70 to 90 range trying to make the roster the 53, like if they have a good like second half on the field, you'll, you'll notice them more on like the first team unit reps with special teams. You'll, you'll see they like coaches are trying to give them the shot to see if they can, you know, basically play special teams because they know they got somebody, whether, again, in my situation, hey, we have somebody who can play a linebacker, but can he play special teams? All four units too. Yeah. Young guys, man, if you think you're just a defensive specialist, get in those special team reps and practice. Even offensive guys, man. Yes. If you're a backup receiver or running back, like, you got to play special

teams. You might be great out of the backfield. You might be a good third down back, but you might not be the starter. You have to play special teams. Every rock. Your spot matters. Even for the offensive line, like if you're an interior guy and you can't play center in both guards, it's like,

it's not how this league works anymore. You don't have a year to develop those types of things. It's so comfortable. Yeah, for alignment too, like if you can't be a swing guy, if you're like, if you're a true depth player.

Yeah. If you're like second team, maybe, like maybe, you got to be able to play like multiple positions. Right. It's, it is funny how different it is because you got guys that are just

chill on the sidelines. You get done with however many reps you have and then seeds in the mouth, unbuckle the shoulder pads and you're just watching a football game. You have the best seats in the house. Other guys that do or die. It's always interesting too because you've alluded to it.

Being you being at an elite level of a left tackle, the quote, the more you can do doesn't necessarily... The more you do, the less you get paid. Yeah, the more you do, the less you get paid. Whereas, like, me coming up, I'm thinking, I got to figure out how I can play every different thing on punt team because that is how ultimately I would get paid. Right.

And there was never... I could literally play. this a bunch of times in the podcast. I could play one position and that was it. I was not good at anything else. Put me at the right side, put me at guard, anything, it was terrible. My rookie year with Michael Ruse and Michael Orr, they got Michael Orr in free agency to play the right tackle.

So when I came in, it was swing and I was playing guard and my rookie camp. And it was just, the only time I even showed any glimmer of hope at all was at left tackle. It was, I was praying to the gods that nobody else went down except for Michael Roos. If somebody was to go down, please make it Michael Roos. Luckily, shout out you, Michael Ruse.

You did go down in week five. Dude, I... I hated special teams. I know ultimately that's how I got to play. Overall. Overall, you wanted to be out there and just playing linebacker. Because when you're just not the fastest guy,

you know, the boys, he's got... I got shorter arms, so it was always a little bit more difficult. I love playing, like, guard on punt because you're protected a little bit more. Yeah. But I remember when Adam Hayward came into my second year, he's like, hey, it doesn't matter how well you can play linebacker.

If you're not like the guy or the starter, I'm going to have to teach you how to play special teams. And shout out the boy Adam Hayward because he was always keeping me after practice and doing things to where ultimately I think he was trying to help show the special teams coordinator that I'm willing to do all these different things underneath him because he was the captain. But yeah, if it wasn't for like Adam and some of those guys. Because I just, you just hated going out there on fourth down. Yeah.

You want to hit your three? Like when I was getting to play, I would still have to be on like punt team or kickoff return. Yeah. They would save my legs by not putting me on kickoff. Yeah, but punting stuff because you have maximum effort and then you're starting first down. Yeah, bro. And then you hope it's like a,

you hope it's a televised game, so there's like a TV timeout. Yeah. God. Or if you know they're about to go down and get tackled, you start to slow up a little bit. That level of stress has got to be so crazy. Yeah, more, when I was playing,

it was more of like, oh, God, this kind of sucks. I have to go out of your own worth down. Because when you get into the season, part of me would be like, man, these special teams guys kind of got to because I'm playing every single snap on offense. Yeah. Like there's so many things can go wrong,

but not even really thinking about how their life is hell at any moment that he can get cut for a new guy coming in. Yeah. One team cuts this guy. I'm like, well, this guy's probably a little bit better. So they switch him out. It's just got to be so hard. Dude, I saw one cat. Man, I forget his name.

He was a linebacker. We had a Thursday night game. And so it was later in the year, too, so we didn't really practice. Like with pads on, it was walk through all week long. Yeah. And it was his first game. He got called up from practice squad.

He was a solid little linebacker, but he was the wing. He was the left wing on punt, and he got beat with an up and under against the Giants, and they cut him the next day. No shit. Yeah. And it was,

you felt for him because you felt like he didn't get like a true fair shake, because he wasn't, his position wasn't wing on the punt team. It was more of like guard or tackle. And he, again, he was a practice squad guy, but he got called up to play wing. And the only job of a wing is like, don't get beat on an up and under to get it blocked.

Right. He got it blocked and they sent him fucking pack. Got to have tempo in that pass set, brother. Gotta have tempo. Tough living. Yeah. Yeah. Tough.

A little PTSD for you there, huh? Yeah, you just hated to see it. Yeah, like, because I was in, I think I was in my third year. And I was like, I remember trying to talk to the special teams coordinator that it was just like, hey, I know we ended up winning that game. And you kind of like tried to save him, essentially. Like, hey, like, we didn't practice all week. and he never got a like a live look at the up and under and ultimately the guy who hit him on the up and under was obviously notorious for an up and unders but he was he was somebody who was very capable at all times of like blocking a punt so he's going up against somebody really good and so you just felt like he didn't get a he was done after that you know what I mean like to show back up no I don't think he made it on a on another team or another roster because once you ultimately you put that out there you can beat it up and under you get cut the next day

like nobody's jumping at. It's like, okay, he must have done more than just allow it up and under. Yeah. And those guys who like, you know, again, to Jack's point in preseason, you're going through all these mental gymnastics of trying to make the team. You're on practice squad. You're doing everything possible to try to stick around. And you get thrown out there Thursday night football, get beaten up and under,

and your career is pretty much done. That just, it sucks. It's brutal. And there's different layers too. Like there's guys, so many guys want to be in the league right now, but like even going to booths and seeing there's a couple of guys that are camp started, preseason games are going and there's a couple of guys just waiting on a call getting a workout just hoping to God something happens where you can get a call is just it's a it's a tough life

to live yeah just to keep a dream alive right because ultimately you don't know if the door's going to open back up for you nobody you're you know especially when you're young or you're not willing to fully shut the door because ultimately your identity and being is wrapped up you're like what am I going to do yeah what's next for me it's scary yeah it's scary transition for sure. Was never scary, though, it was game time. Anytime you need those tickets for the best prices, you know what to do. Did you know that you can get tickets at the ball game, at the basketball game, at the

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Oh, is your team? No, I believe it's, is it Chicago? Yeah. Which Chicago table? Like, if you're in Nashville, NATO, who do you usually pull for an MLB? Oh, yeah, yeah, Braves are the Cardinals. Yeah, I see you're saying now. Like, I grew up with this either, it's majority Braves, and then you have like, I'd say

70, 30 to Cardinals split. Yeah. And then you got your random Mitches of the world. They're like the Yankees. Because I want to say, I think, yeah, yeah. I want to say like in the farm or in the minor system there's a Memphis Cardinals team. I think the Cardinals are. They might be double a.

Yeah, yeah, they might have like a Cardinals team. Yeah. He's saying in Memphis. I'm not sure, though. You can fact check me, but I believe, I believe it was Cardinals has a minors team or in the farm system in Memphis. There's one more thing about the Titans game I want to talk about. There's been a debate about the OG pain train. And you were in yourself, you were in a little bit of a scuffle this.

weekend, Jackie. You said that no OG Pantry going into the fort. No OG Pantran. People are saying you spoke too soon. What was the situation with that? Because I know all the fans are clamoring. Yeah, I know. Me as a Dyer Titans fan, I did not leave it half because I care about these reps. I care about the special teams guys and I'm in there. I'm in there losing my voice. But no OG Pantry video, they played the normal Pantry video. But what we're looking for is the old, what's his name Terry. Terry Tate office linebacker. And we need that one back with

the Folsom Prison Blues going into fourth quarter. I think it's what we need. We have a new system, a new team. So what better thing to do than bring back in old tradition, you know? Got to have it. And let's instill those values. So I do hope, though, they're saving it for that first home opener. It's the Jets, week two.

So I think it'd be great. We'll beat the absolute dog shit out of New York. And then fourth quarter comes around. We all throw them up. And then Terry comes on the screen. And, you know, it's back to the Mike Fisher days. I love it.

Jack, it fires me up that you stay for the entirety of a preseason game. It was beast. It really was. It was just fun just being in the stadium again. And we were talking about this earlier. Nashville during this time of year in August, it usually is miserably hot during the time.

And we got a historic weather day on Saturday. It was a nice little fall. I think it maybe hit like 82, 83 tops. And there was like very little humidity. So by the time it was like six or seven when that Titans game start. There was a little breeze going. You just can't beat it.

When you're in Nashville and the weather actually is, uh, is, is there for you and not against you. you're like, yeah, I see why everybody wants to move here now. But we probably won't get another one of those days until October. So, but we're still knock on wood. We're still been a nice day today. Today is a nice day. Yeah, shout out.

We had a great spring too. It makes you think you're going to have a great fall. We had a great spring this year. I know you talked about for years. I've dogged it for years. I think all that dogging kind of set a fire under the weather. And I'm willing to be that villain if it gives me a great spring and fall. I'm willing to, yeah, thank you, for real.

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Duke Cannon, work harder, smell better. Let's have a day. I don't know mine yet. I don't know my name. I actually have one. Let's make the boys. We got the boys on Black Friday. Yeah, what's a shout on?

No free shout out. Um, shout out, no free shout out to impromptu trips. So like this, like, so I forgot my boy Clay, he lives down here. So I haven't seen him in a while. And it's just kind of nice when you're in a city or like going to like a, game or something and you're like oh yeah one of my boys lives there haven't seen them in a while and then you catch up you go to the bar and it's just like you picked up right where you left off love that it's a good shout out that is out good shout out for the show clay will uh shout out no free

um to my boys right here man coming down visiting can't ever be a shout to the boys hey we got a little rowdy can't ever be a shout to the boys uh got a little rowdy on a sunday winter broadway it was a good time just like old times you know i haven't seen him in a while so it was just good it was good to have him went golfing too it was fun played nine it's cool shout out the boys man shout out well what do you got shout out no free shout out the people who hand out the samples at the grocery store and they don't care how many you got saturday i was at the lake we went to walmart i was pretty blitzed they're handing out like these like fresh fried chicken and i probably had like a pound a chicken dude just got in them.

Didn't give a fuck. Those people are the real troopers of America. I love that. Good shout out. Jack, you had one? I do. It kind of goes along with the preseason. My shout out goes to seeing guys at the Titan Stadium in our merch.

And especially seeing them from afar because you're like, yeah, they're out there. But specifically, I was walking back into my seat and I see a guy on the phone. And then I just see him so aggressively hang up and he's just B lines for me. And I'm like, okay, I'm either in trouble or he's a busing fan. And he's like, dude, I'm here on a bachelor party. I'm from Medi Ian Columbia. He goes, I love busting with the boys. Benny Chase.

He was like, he's like, beer Olympics is awesome. He's like, fuck, Portnoy, y'all did it. And he's like, and he's literally born and raised in Medi and Columbia. So the fact that we're making waves down in South America fired me up. And he wanted me to tell you guys, hey, and I was like, you're getting the shout out this week. So shout out to Martin Gomez from Medi and Columbia. Martin Gomez. Shout out the boy Martin Gomez.

A shout out, Dayton, Ohio. Shout out, no free shout out, Dayton, Ohio. Was just up there for a wedding. Shout out, no free shout out the whole city, but specifically college bars, just so sleepy, you order a shot, you get in a plastic Dixie Cup, everything's like two bucks.

The entire wedding party shut down this bar called Flanagan's. And it hit, dude. You all live in a great spot. I'm going to shout out. San Diego. I was just out there this past weekend. Flag football tournament? No, I went out there with the girlfriend.

Oh, girlfriend. Yeah. Oh, hard launch. The girlfriend. So went to her hometown in the valley, Santa Clarita, and then drove that. So her hometown is actually called Stevenson Ranch. And being the massive mic. fan that I am I thought it was hilarious and it was sick to like this is where this is the

homeless thieves and I felt like I was home but then we went down to San Diego and that that place might be it I mean it's you got the beaches everywhere it's like a bunch of young professionals downtown sick the weather the weather is just like the perfect fall day even in the summer and like you can go down to the harbor there's a bunch of food spots down there it was it was awesome so yeah shout out the west coast shout out the west coast my shout out no free shout is going to go to tomato fest in east nashville nothing beats a good neighborhood festival that gets the entire neighborhood together you're walking around there's vendors there's food there's music and i really need to shout out this band zip zap who just melted our faces off as soon as we got

there. Jack right into the guy a couple times and we might be their biggest fans. Their reaction was kind of like. Yeah. But it was great. It was, you know, it just gets the neighborhood together. If you're in Nashville, I recommend going. And then, you know, that weather was just money.

So it just, it was a 10 out of 10 day. Love that. Zip zap. Zip. What kind of band are they? Like rock. Like they, they got long solos. and they give a shit about.

They give a shit. Hell of yeah. Yeah, six dudes in that, bam. Solos are fine. It's fully produced songs that are 12 minutes that I have a problem with. Yeah, no, I know fish. My shout-on, no free shout-out.

We were talking about it earlier. The welcome party for my wedding is going down on Friday. And I was talking with Will and we're talking about maybe we get a little biggest splash contest going, that strict contest. but the shoutout goes to the line at the diving board pre-contest. Yeah. The anticipation, the butterflies.

Yes, you have true butterflies. And then when you put your hands on the two little things, get that wine back, it's like, this is it. Either I become a legend in this neighborhood in this next moment, or I can never come to the diving board again. Then if you land it, you feel like a superhero. Right. You come out of the water, just waiting for the reaction.

The lifeguard is like, you get the approval. of the lifeguard just a small nod yeah exactly because he's in that chair because he was once on the board yeah he earned it he earned it

so that's my shout out that makes me love that me I can go if you want go ahead all right my shout or no free shout is going to go to getting horny for food with the boys yeah yeah

dude last week Willie and I were in Chicago and we land And I'm thinking, you know, hey, you want to do a little fast? You want to fast for like 24 hour fast? And I was like, yeah, fuck it. And then right around 3 o'clock, the hunger hits. And not only. Taylor asked me, Taylor asked me, too, when we were in the middle of that shoot, shout-out game time.

He's like, hey, you're trying to fuck some food up? Or he's like, what are you trying to do? You're trying to keep the fast going? I was like, hey, you're my leader, bro. I'm following you. I am not going to be a bad influence. I'm down to do it the rest of the day with you. But just know your boy is starving.

bro the whole entire ride from barstle hq to the airport and then in the airport in the airport we just talked about breakfast foods for until our flight took off then we looked we just talked about what we were going to fuck up as soon as we landed because that was when the fast was supposed to end then literally we land and will and i walked to the slim and huskies and i didn't even i had food waiting for me at home but i was just i literally sat there with will and waited for his pizza to come out just to look at it and it was i mean we were horny yeah horned up for that food pizza was gone um I didn't even wait until I got home. I know. I was at the valet. By the way, much better experience at the valet I had. Much better experience. But you were halfway through that thing

when I saw you next. I'm walking and eating, it's crazy. This was like, what was the 8 p.m. was the time? Yeah, 8 p.m.

Oh, I was so hungry. And when we were, when we were getting like lined up for our flight too, it was kind of the hangariness was starting to like creep in a little bit.

Some guy started asking us, how many beers are we going to smash in this floor? Oh my God, that guy, bro. take a fucking hike. I'm not drinking a beer with you. Yes.

And he basically called us pussies. But it was a little over the top. He's like, hey, how many we crushed on this flight? I was like, oh, no, I'm not drinking. He said, you're not drinking? I was like, no, man, it's a school night. I think it was Tuesday. Yeah.

Or Wednesday. And he just kept harassing me about drinking. I was like, bro, I'm not drinking with you. He's like, oh, don't be a pussy. And then I hear him talking to Taylor. I throw in my AirPods just to make it seem like, dog, I'm done talking to you. And he's like harassing Taylor all the way down the tongue.

Like, come on, man, just, just have one with me. I can't believe you guys aren't drinking. And I'm thinking at that point, I'm thinking, bro, shut the fuck up. Grumpy Will was out. Hungry Will. I was handling. I was like, you were handling business. But we sat down and then we put a pause on the horny food talk.

Because I thought he's going to go middle seat by us. I was going to move. I was moving. I would have moved. Would you have? Yes. You know, my bitch ass would have sat there. I'd be like, man, that's crazy.

He did that. And then I have to talk to him the entire flight. You see me just get up and kind of disappear. Like, I kind of let me get something. out of my bag and then I'm just in the back just grab your bag, go sit in the middle seat somewhere. I was tight that dude was pissing me out. Like bro, we're not having a drink.

We let me get a conversation with a guy on the way to Chicago and we almost missed our flight. Almost missed our flight Chicago. The whole plane boarded. Yeah, we were the last ones on. We were A1 and two and then we got on last and I'm sitting in a middle seat just. And I did walk on the plane before Will

and there was a one window seat left and I sniped it. I look back, I was like, hey, I should have been in front of you. He's like, you want it? I was like, no. sitting down comfortable bags on back I'm like looking for another I'm looking for another aisle or window seat and you see people like oh the boy

you got on here late I was like I'm fucking Will walks down Will walks down the point and it comes back Had to come back to go sit in the middle seat Yeah Brutal But yeah shut up Shout up being horny for food

Yeah shout up we were horny too bro Insane My shout out no free shout out is going to go to my wife She has she is now the owner of the bar three studios in Nashville And that has been a goal of hers since I've known her. She was like, is it PWC? Does that sound familiar?

One of the big tax accounting firms, there's like a big three or big five or something. And she was kind of climbing that corporate ladder, left some good money to basically manage a bar three studio in Washington, D.C., where she didn't really get paid a lot of money at all. Talked to her into moving to Nashville where she ultimately took over and managed the two studios here in Nashville. there's an opportunity for us to buy it in like the COVID year, but it was a little high price-wise. So she ended up not, we ended up not jumping on it then.

She took a franchise ops manager job for HQ out of Portland, which is where the Bar 3 HQ is, to where ultimately she like helps people open up their studios. Mentors is basically a resource for anybody, any owner who opens up a new studio. And the opportunity came up recently for her to acquire the Bar 3 studios here in the greater Nashville area. So she is now the owner of the Bar 3.

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Premeditated line. That's one of my old man jokes. Is it? Yeah. My dad, he loves that. After a heavy squat day, yeah. My old man's all about that. Look, the shirt just pulls up peach seeds.

But, but yeah, that's my shout. on no free shoutout of the week. One more for Charles. Let's get one more for Charles. Outstanding. I think it's time to give the people what they want. We did kind of brush over the fact that it is J.P. Hovey's wedding week. That is true.

We should go back to it. That's good. That's a good bookmark. But we can very much, I know everybody's dying to listen to this Rich Eisen episode. However, we do have to celebrate the boy J.P. It's his wedding week. There's been a lot of stress, I assume, leading up to this moment as married men who went through it. I feel your pain.

Y'all, y'all can each give one piece of advice for me. and anybody else that might be about to get married. My advice for the week of leading up is ultimately just put yourself in a mindset of the haze in the barn. Whatever goes wrong, whatever needs to be fixed is somebody else's job outside of you. Your job is to minimize whatever stress that your partner's feeling because they want everything to be perfect. It's the biggest day that they've been dreaming about since a little girl. And ultimately they want everything to go perfectly, even though they might allude at it, that they might not want it to.

They want everything to go perfectly. So your job, I felt like my job was ultimately like, hey, sweetheart, it's going to be all good. Like this, we're going to get married. We're going to say some awesome vows. And we're going to have a dope party afterwards. And I did that as much as possible because it was ultimately relieved yourself of feeling as stressed out as everybody else is surrounding the wedding. That would be my advice.

Like you get on the plane or are you driving or flying there? I'm flying there. Flying there. And it's like, once you get on that flight, bro, just be like, hey, everything else is out of my hands. We're either going to perform. The operation is going to perform. But once everybody shows up for the welcome party,

it's just going to be fun from there on out. It's over. Yeah, once the first person gets in the pool. That's all you need. If nobody's in there, trust me, we will be diving in that pool. We'll be getting in that pool. We'll be setting it off.

But it should be all fun from here or not, even though I know it's like, it gets a little tight, gets a little dicey. You got the parents, you got everybody kind of weighing in on what should happen here, what should happen there.

It's like, hey, focus on the vows. Yeah, I just say expect, expecting this go wrong, like things that you don't want to happen. Things are going to go wrong, but the other day it doesn't matter. You're putting rings on the finger.

You're saying your vow and you're getting it done. Check all the boxes that you think you need to check. If you're like saying hello to people, do that as fast as early as possible. And then after that, be truly intentional about enjoying the wedding. That's because I feel like everybody, you talk to anybody that's been married,

it's like, oh, yeah, our wedding was fun, but we really don't remember it because it was like so much high stress. went through all of it. It's like once you've shook in people's hands, be like, hey, I appreciate you coming. Then it's like, how can we now go away for a second? Look at this grand scheme of these 500 people, however many people are at this wedding and be like, yo, this is sick. This is our wedding. Take a moment, just the two of you and then dive into fun. Love it. It's the best, too. Y'all is so much fun, especially if you black out. I can't do that. We've gotten on the flight the next day.

You can black out, dude. You can black out. It's the same, bro. And I was blacked out. I was blacked out. The tunes were awesome. The music was awesome. Dude, it was so much fun because everybody's pocket of friends from early days, later days in between, your side, her side, family, everybody coming together and like having a good time and celebrating. Like, it is so much fun.

And it's crazy. Obviously, y'all know Sittin's awesome. All time. And she seriously does not have like a single friend that I don't. like and like everyone she's grown up with that she became friends with in college is like the best i love going to visit her friends she feels the same way about my friends and now that they all get to meet it's going to be so fun bro it's going to be so fun it's going to be awesome and get all your uh thank yous out to the family the immediates that taylor is talking about you get them first

so that way because when you get around your friends you're going to want to be a little longer a little longer winded right to where you know your wife are by hey we got to you know we got to move on to the next table yeah get the big ones out early My wife, that sounds crazy. Yeah, your wife, bro. Hey, congratulations on the upcoming sex. Thanks, bro. Yeah, that's going to be awesome.

It's going to be good. When there is rumors, me and Sherman are a little worried about you. That I'm going to switch up on us. Yeah, you're going to change. Come back into the office, leather jacket on smoking cigarettes. They're a totally different cat. Oh, yeah, we were talking about I might take Taylor's seat when I come back. There's all of a sudden this crazy amount of confidence.

Hey, Taylor, why don't you go sit back there? I'll say, yes. My bad. My bad, new J. open seat back there. No, that's going to be awesome, man. It'll be a fun time. Your wedding was a blast.

Dude, it was, I had so much fun. Rocky, turbulent in the beginning for me. Horrible. Horrible. Yeah. But we got through it. Everything was all good until that roll he came out. No doubt.

No doubt. Taylor might be driving the getaway car, so. Oh, yeah. I'm in, dude. No hiccups. You found him a roll? Yeah. You got him a roll?

I know it's never gonna I'm gonna do the old eye drops and whoever's doing the wedding I'm gonna do that to him Saturday afternoon hit him with oh it's unfortunate he couldn't make it and I'll save the day sabotage yeah wasn't even prepared but I do have this written up no yeah pull it all out you said you said something earlier there what I say you shook in everybody's hands huh shucking shaking shaking shaking shaking you know you know want to help you? Grammarly. Grammarly. You write across multiple platforms and places during your workday, so delivering consistent high-quality communication everywhere is key. Grammarly is an AI writing partner that helps you get work done faster with high-quality writing for better projects, proposals, presentations, and more. Better writing means a stronger impact. Ninety-six percent of Gramerly users report that Grammarly helps them craft more impactful writing. Get personalized writing suggestions

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this is happening. We got him. It is going down. This is happening. 772 days. Kicking and screaming. Finally did it. Look at this place.

Is everything you thought it would be? Everything. It's everything I thought it would be. More comfortable chairs than I thought it would be. You know, there's an old school vibe to it. There's a new school vibe to it. I still don't understand. why there's no motor on this thing.

I think you'd kill it if you could take this thing around the country. It was my initial reaction when you first told me. I think was that five years ago now? Over 700 days ago? 772 days was the time we started to try to get you on bus. But this goes back to when you came on my show at the draft in Nashville when I was doing my show at the draft. And you're like, hey, I'm going to do this pod. I'm starting to pod.

And I'm like, what's it called? Bussing with the boys. really great that's cool like why is it called busing with the boys there's a bus no kidding great well when the bus comes through l.a i'd love to go on it you're like there's no motor on it and i'm like oh what do you mean like what are you talking about there's no motor on the bus and you said there's no motor on the bus and on that spot i'll never forget it right there on the show i decided okay i'm going to commit to never appearing on this show until there's a motor on the bus right which was a strong stance to take immediately and i and i think i kind of threw you a little bit

You know, like you didn't expect such a strident opinion coming out of me so quickly. I went from supportive to the alpha male. Yeah, like obviously. Yeah, he really put me in my place. Weirdly angry, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Weirdly angry. Like you don't have a motor.

Offended. Like, no, I was offended just on behalf of all broadcasting, you know, like there would be a show based on a bus, but the bus doesn't move. It made no sense. Yeah. Let me tell you how that made me feel because I like to think, you know, you are, you're the God of the NFL. When people think of NFL voices, they think of Rich Eisen. Do they know? Yeah. Well, I mean, at some point, they'll get around. Yeah. At some point. Process of elimination.

No question. Eventually, you just been around a long, a long time. And when I'm talking to you, a businessman, who has his voice on a microphone for so long, and then I say, hey, I'm going to do X, Y, and Z, and you're all about it. And then I say one small thing. Yeah. And you shut it down. My heart hurt. I thought, man, there's no way this bustling with the voice thing is going to work out of Rich Eisen. No, I mean, that's not the way I meant it to be. I just kind of meant it to be like a little bit of a bit than a commitment to the bit, which is, you know, the only way a bit works. Only way.

And then I would not knowing me. Exactly. That's why I would understand the animosity that I feel more from my left, like the heat I'm currently feeling from my left more than I guess my 10 o'clock position right over here, is that the next part of the bit was to not know who Wilcompton was. Like I'm like, who are you doing it with? And then that was another part of the bit. And then I just hammered that part of the bit down on the ground until, you know, I started

watching you take people for a walk on your Twitter account. And you kind of won me over at that point in time. I kind of loved the walk. I think that's a funny thing. And then the way you commit to that bit too. So I'm like, okay. Then I started taking you for a walk. And then I don't know when day one started to, who came up with the idea of posting a photograph

of me every single day until I came up on? I just kind of organic. Is that a little way to start? It was kind of a good. It was conversation. Matter of fact, let's ask Jack. Jack, the one who is responsible for posting every day. I'm sure some of the boys in the back might have happened a couple times.

This was a little over two years ago. And it was a slow summer day. So I was just trying to find anything we can repurpose for content. Right. And there was the whole resurfacing. I think of maybe a clip that you would never come on. Right. So I was like day one, tweeting a photo of Rich Eyes until he comes on the podcast.

In the first few days, everyone loves it. And then by about day 12, people were like, all right, this is a, already. And now we hear our 700 days later and people still think it's old. But we never gave up. No, I appreciate that you never gave up, certainly since, you know, there was a Chevy Silverado on the line for you about doing it every single day. I was going to say that whole idea was coming up during a podcast. It was about 30 days in. And you guys were like, how committed are you to this? And then we kind of established terms. And then it became and just took life. And it found legs. And then we're in L.A. and we're in L.A. and we're on the show talking about it. And I think that was like day 450. It was last summer. Right.

And then, and then, you know, the, the aggressiveness from your passionate fan base and the passionate bus and fan base. You don't want to cross them. No, but, but the fact, and I would reach out to you saying, you know, can you, you, you know, jump in here at some point? No. And you didn't. Not to imagine you do have a fan base, too.

Like when I would, when it seems like you come through national and then I'm like, oh, it's great to see you go. But I never. you go to other cities and go on the shows i never came through the this is the first time i've been back in nashville edelman's podcast i think you did you do the pivot you did uh karen no no no i did i did i did 30 yeah get 30 can i never do this is my hold rich rich we got to respect the time okay you got to respect the time out okay you got to respect the time out so how many of these do you get it's really at our discretion it's our show it's our show yeah i got it's start with three sorry i'm usually

in control when i'm over yeah no so when appreciating the different bits. One that I always enjoy is when you do go on somebody else's show. Like crafting some tweet that makes me think that you travel to everybody else except the boys. And when I do do that, there's some Rich Eisen's fans out there that come across. He's got better things to do than go on your guys a shitty bus. You guys are on a real podcast. Your fans are nasty. Listen, I'm going to say that that's your fans, just clapping back at you, just trying to keep you in line as opposed to my people. Then that could be true. So you think you're just wandering through life for the last 30 years doing sports and you have no fans. I am I am as 100% honest as I possibly

can be when I say this I never crafted a tweet to try and make you jealous about me appearing on other podcasts. I never thought in a million years when I appeared on Julian Edelman's podcast shot out of his home just off the 405 freeway about 20 minutes from where I live and about 25 minutes from where I work that you would consider that an affront that I would travel that short amount of a distance as opposed to flying to frigging nat. Keyword travel. You know what I mean? You traveled traveled. Of course I traveled. L.A. L.A. Traffic? You did you know 20 minutes? Is it a block away? McAfee? It is. Oh, that's a good poll. I, but I did McAfee show when you were in Indianapolis. Yeah, when I was in Indianapolis for the combine. And then I did, I did pardon my take when I was in

New York for the sports. You did do pardon my take as well. Now I know that that was, that was now that you guys considered in a front. I understand it's the same. it's the same family it's the same they copy everything that we do but if you but if the sport I don't want to get involved okay it sounds like I don't want to get involved in this family of all the issues of the boys you're smack dab in the middle

so maybe so but you know all I'm saying is that if the sports Emmys were in Nashville I'd have I'd have been on the bus sooner you know what I mean and if they were in Nashville I wouldn't have done part in my take because I was in town for the sports Emmys you know like honestly this is the first time I have been in Nashville since

I the draft yes It was the draft? Yeah. Was it 2019 or 18? 2019, I think. Yeah, it was. It was definitely 2019. Yeah, so that's the origin and that's, you know, but it's now officially in the past.

We've turned it. We have officially turned the page. And to give you some grace. Yes. I didn't know I needed any. Well, you know, you're defending all your points. So I want to give you some grace too. You did try coming on when we would go to the Super Bowl.

I did. And we would be like, no, it has to be on the bus because the entire. And I respected it. We publicly said that. We publicly put that out there that Rich has tried to come on the bus. but sometimes didn't hear that. They didn't hear that. Yeah.

It's more and more aggressive with each, with each, like every single time there'd be a, a photograph. And some of them, you know, Jack, I mean, you would just take a screen grab of the interview that I did that day. It was pretty lazy. But I understand, I understand, like, I understand like day 7, 10, you're like, okay, I just need to check this box and get out of the way. I totally get that. To my defense, there, after a certain amount of time, even for someone who's been on the internet and in the public eye for a long time, there is only a finite amount of photos of you. So really, okay.

Getting... I find that offensive. Unfortunately. No, but you would find some deep cuts. Like I would have to like really begin to think like where was that? You know, and I was impressed by that. But each and every time I would look at the first couple of comments and it would be buss and fans who are just like you're, you're disrespecting.

You know, you're never going to go on. You know, yeah, like this photograph that's up there right now. That's my photograph from college, from Pai Kappa Phi, my fraternity. That's what's up on the house wall right now, wherever the house is in Michigan. Where was that house when you were? It was a temporary quarters. We didn't have an official house. Oh, really?

You're still working through it. Still working through it. True an animal house story. I'm a ground breaker, man. Yes. There's no question about that. NFL network, you know, is another example. You know, ground floor, build it up.

Right. No one can ever take it away from you. There's no doubt about that. Right. But that, but that, they would get aggressive. You could see how my name is Richard Eisen on that. Because, again, that's what I was known as in college. At any rate, I'm here.

Do you have a favorite photo that Jack posted? Or that jogged your memory in such way, like, oh, man. I don't know, every now and then you'd rope my wife into it, you know, which... It was her birthday yesterday, correct? It was her birthday yesterday. Happy birthday of your wife. It's very kind of you, Jack. Yes.

Thank you. It's very touching. I feel like we're a member of a family now, man. I love that. I really do feel that way. That is special. And the first time you guys met was last summer. Correct.

On the show, they were very nice enough to have us all in the studio. Beautiful studio. Thank you. Really great staff. You guys have a great operation there. Thanks, brother. What was the feeling when you saw Rich for the first time knowing he was the only man sitting in the way between you and a Chevy Silverado?

It was like seeing a father I've never seen before in life. Went out from milk and a pack of cigarettes. Yeah. And I remember, and Garrett was there watching. There was a bunch of us walking in. And I go up, he goes, we're going to get you that truck. And I go in for a hug. And he's already talking other people.

and I'm like, oh no. My God. Another time, Dad. Yeah, yeah. No doubt. I love you, Dad. Listen, I'm sorry I left and never came back. But we're now reunited and hopefully, you know, we can look past everything.

I'm ready to move forward. Great. Hey, I will say it was really cool to be out at your studio with the team last year because of like, you know, Jack tweeting every day. Like, I feel like we all had fun being out there and fan boy on you for a second. And like when you covered baseball growing up and playing baseball, watching you break down VMLB every day for my fantasy league, whatever fantasy league I was on. But being able to watch you for like these last two decades

and you're running a couple bits on me has been really cool. No, I appreciate you saying that, Will. I know it feels a little weird. No, it's all good, man. Just a bunch of dudes sitting on the bus, compliment each other. You've aged so gracefully, we're in the car as well as you were born in 69. It's crazy. And all I'm saying is, that's crazy.

By the way, on the drive over here, on the drive over here, we were talking about how my first Michigan game, and I kind of forgot the circumstances about it, and it was against Nebraska, and it was the Fiesta Bowl. I looked it up, and I remember sitting there thinking, you know, after it jogged my memory, now I'm remembered that we beat Nebraska in the Fiesta Bowl, and I thought, oh, Michigan wins bowl games, and then, of course, we all found out, you know, at least I did,

that that's not always the case, clearly. But any rate, the reason I brought that up is I'm like, do you remember that? And then I realized I was talking to you. And I'm like, were you born yet? And you said, no. And then you said, when were you born? When were you born is what you said?

Like how's how you said, when were you born? Yeah, holy shit. How do you still do it? You know, listen. How are you still so sharp at this? I got to tell you, man. How do I do it? You know, it's just a, no question.

Peptides, yeah. And it's just a lot of crossword puzzles, you know? I do hear that. Can I keep aging myself up? What else? What more can I say ginko, Ginko Bilobo, whatever they say that that shit is. What is that?

Do you carry an iPhone? Are you still a flip phone? Fuck you. Dude, you just got a gentle fuck you from which eyes. I didn't know. He asked for coffee in a newspaper this morning. Yes, for a newspaper. I'm nothing without coffee in my paper.

No question. Yeah, every single day. Yeah, so I was born. I'm 55. It's all right. Listen, you should be so lucky at age 55 if you can sit on this bus and keep doing this show. Dude. For as long as you know.

for as long as I've done shit in my career. You know what I mean? Like, I hope that for you. You want to get that tap on the shoulder from somebody saying, you're done. The good news is we're our own bosses. So the only people that'll be tapping ourselves be like, hey, we're 55.

Should we still be sitting? Would Portnoy consider that? We would just. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You would consider you, your own bosses? I would think so. If asked that question directly. I think Portnaud would say those are my guys.

Like, they're partnered with Barstool. Technically, he would be our boss. Technically. But ultimately, if everything broke up. was asked a direct question. Okay. Are the boys from busing with the boys their own bosses? He would answer it how.

Those are my guys. He would say those are my guys. Will he sharp? It's a yes or no. He may only answer it yes or no. Right. And Dave has been in the business, I mean, how only half as long as you, 25 years.

But he knows how to maneuver those waters. And I guarantee he would say those are my guys. He would say yes. He would say yes. Okay, now he can only say yes or no. Those are his only choices, A or B. A is yes, B is no. How would he answer that question?

I think he'd say yes. He wouldn't just say yes. He'd go, yes. So he would indicate in his answer some form of hesitation to let the person who's asking the question no, they're absolutely not there. Yeah, we call that gray area. Yeah. And that's where we live in the gray area with Barstall.

Okay. Because bus in, there's a whole different variables. Will's got an independent contract. So technically more. Oh, really? You're not an official Barstall employee? No, I'm not. Will is an official barstool employee.

Okay. But then the bus itself, it's like we work alongside. side barstool, but also push come to shove. If someone had to be an answer, I don't know, let's just say like having a production team in Las Vegas for a beer game championship at the world and they wanted to pull that, they could do that and we could do nothing about it. But your partners, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, partners.

Yeah, it's a strong partnership. You know, who has a boss. Right, along with your McAvaney, SPN. Sure, yeah, right. But that's a good poll. That's a great poll because at the end of the day, you know, Pat is his own boss. Yeah. Even though he technically has one.

Okay. So you're saying you're the McAfee of Barstool. Will said that. Yes. We'll say that out loud. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm going to back off. I'm bad at being the A of Q&A. I didn't mean to take over the other. I don't think you're at all. I think you've taken us on a couple of nice journeys with a little memory lane with Jack. Okay. Good. This has been great. Okay. We interrupt this episode to bring you body armor. Real hydration, real ingredients, packed with electrolytes, vitamins, and nothing artificial. Body armor sports drink,

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Why are they potential? Or they mean they have potential to be asked of me right now? Yeah, because Boston with the Boys is more founded on organic conversation. And here we are right now, now making it no longer organic conversation because I'm talking about being organic. So they're there can't be so organic. Correct. But if we run into a little brick wall, if we might be right now, I could look over in the corner and say. You want to ask me one of the potential questions?

How was the NFL Hall of Fame ceremony? Oh, it's great, Taylor. Thanks for asking. And then you would elaborate more because you know you're on a show. Right. Were you nervous during it? No. Were you more nervous during that or doing the roast of Tom Brady?

Ah, okay. The roast of Tom Brady was wild. So I wasn't asked to do that until the day before by Jeff Ross. Really? Yes. Jeff Ross. Jeffrey Ross. I've known since September of 2001 when I was at a party in New York City just after 9-11.

It was like the first time everyone was out and about. Yeah. And I saw him at a party. and I fanboyed him because he had just done the roast of Jerry Stiller where Sandra Bernhardt had done some musical act with Jerry Stiller and he stepped up and he told the famous line

Sandra Bernhardt, she's so ugly I wouldn't fuck her with Be Arthur's dick and Be Arthur, somebody who probably don't know before your time. She was on Golden Girls and she was getting up in years and she was on the dais and he roped in a 70-year-old woman accused her of having a male part. And that was the way to your heart. And it was the funniest, it still is the funniest roast joke ever said anywhere by anybody. And so I, we hit it off and we've

known each other ever since then. So he called me the day before and he goes, how would you like to kick off the roast of Tom Brady tomorrow night? I was going anyway. I was going to be there with my, with my wife, Susie and I were going anyway. And he goes, how'd you like to start it? And I'm like, You had me at hello, of course, like 100%. I'll do that. And he had told me, because he's always up front with me, that he was trying to get Mike Tyson to do that first. Imagine how that would go.

I know if Tyson was going to start it off, right? Like, let's get ready to rumble or whatever the hell. And so for whatever reason, it didn't happen. I'm like, I'm happy to be your plan B after Mike Tyson. By the way, the only time of my life I've ever been a plan B after Mike Tyson for anything. So I was going to start it off. So I rehearsed. They had me go down to the to the forum earlier on that Sunday and rehearse it.

So I did it. It's on the prompter. I can read a prompter, you know, for 30 years, not a problem. And so as we're getting ready to walk in, and it's time to walk into the arena, my wife, Suz, who's been in the business for as long as I've been, turns to me and she asked me, and she never really asked me. She goes, are you nervous to do this? And I'm like, no, you know, like I just rehearsed it. It's on the prompter and whatever. So we walk in the arena and, you know, the idea that there's a roast in an arena is pretty big room for a roast. And I was a little concerned that the roast wouldn't go over well in a room full of 10,000 people. But the place was already half hour or four packed.

And there must have been a million open bars or whatever because everybody was ready to roll. You could feel the energy in that arena a half hour before. All the Sully's and Fitses and their Edelman jerseys and their Gront jerseys and their Brady jerseys, they were lit. Literally, figuratively. It was, you could feel the energy. And so now it's time to actually do it. And they put me right there out in front, hand the microphone, and the camera goes in my face. And I thought to myself, oh, shit.

Like, this is actually happening. It's live. And I'm, you know, introducing Kevin Hart. And everybody's there. And I'd seen everybody. and I'm like, okay, now I'm starting this thing off. And then as soon as they started the roast, you know that Netflix do-doom?

Yeah. They played that in the arena. And it echoed off of everything. And the place went crazy. And that's when a, you know, like a hint of a butterfly hit. And I thought to myself, this is pretty cool. Because I just remember the first time I started Sports Center, my first sports center ever was in the spring of 19.

I was 26 years old. My only experience was local sportscaster in Redding, California, small, beautiful town up in Northern California. And now here I am on the Sports Center set. And I'm going down and it was a sweet six, no, round of 32 Saturday of the March Madness. And it was a half hour show with Larry Beale. And I had 12 highlights and I'd only seen one of them. So 11 of my highlights that I was going to be doing live on ESPN for the first time. We're going to be handed. to me during the show. And I remember thinking of myself walking downstairs, I have two choices. I can shit in my pants, or I can just go and tee it up and let it fly. And I probably did both. But that's the feeling I had for the Brady Roast,

where I'm like, this is the coolest thing ever. Like, why am I nervous? It's on the prompter. I've done this a million times. And that was the greatest night, man. I love roasts. They're awesome. I love them.

Because, you know, it's a, for the lack of, better phrase. I don't think Brady would call it this, but it's a safe space where you know what I mean? Absolutely. You see what I'm saying? It's a safe space. And to that point, I thought the Brady roast

was like a Patriots therapy session, a long time coming, where Bledso got shit off his chest that he never would have been able to tell Brady to his face or Belichick to his face and Edelman did the same thing and Gronk did the same thing to each

other and to everybody else there and craft being there and belichick being there it got everything out in the safe space of you could say what you can say in the roast sure there's a germ of truth and pretty much everything that you're saying but it's all in the spirit of having a good time and being fun and saying the wrong thing and it's tough to say the jokes now because when you're out of the context of the roast. It sounds awful. But I love it. It was great. And I think it, not to get too deep here, but it made Brady's actual Hall of Fame night in New England a month later that much more joyous. There was none of the undercurrent of, well, they don't like him. He doesn't like them. They're still pissed about that time. It got everything off their

chest. And it was just about Brady's night of being honored and going into the Patriots Hall of fame and that's all it was about. That's what that roast was. It was amazing. That is, it was spectacular. One of the best roasts I've ever seen. It was so long, too.

It was three hours. Right. Because they added, because they added something like a lot of people, they were put in a lot of. Tony Hinchcliff wasn't supposed to be up there that long. Tony Hinchcliff was brilliant. He was unbelievable.

Brilliant. That was one thing that I was going to ask you is who was your favorite. Well, Nikki Glazer and him were just dominated. They stole the show. They did. Nikki Glazer's joke about Gronk with, the with the crypto. Like, we know that not real money.

Like, how did you lose all that money? Right, right. You know, and her telling that joke, even Granc knows me know that not real money. And that was the first joke of the night where the upper bowl of the arena laughed longer and louder than the lower bowl. So it was kind of like, you know,

for lack of a better analogy, like a starburst in the galaxy that took a few more light years to hit earth. Yeah. And so everybody's laughing in the lower bowl, loud laugh. And then the upper bowl came on top of it and made it even louder and longer. And that's when it was really cooking with gas. I mean, that was after Bledsoe went and Jeff Ross went. And he says that he's going to gift me for my studio, his roast J. Simpson jersey framed.

So I'm going to get that from him for sure and place that in my, in my studio. Bledso went, he went, Kevin Hart was outstanding, and then she went. And amazing. And Hinchcliff was brilliant. Brilliant. He just tore that place a new one. So he was great. I thought Bledsoe was hilarious.

And I heard that when Belichick, when Kraft came out of the audience to do a shot with Belichick and it looked like Bill wanted to do anything on planet Earth except take a shot with Kraft. I was told it had nothing to do personally with craft. It's just that Bill doesn't like drinking tequila very much. And he had just done a shot five minutes earlier with Gronk and Edelman. And he's just like, I mean, another shot of tequila. Like he's more of a wine drinker. I'm kind of the same way. So that way, he was actually reacting to having to do another shot of tequila. And then Granc spiked the shot glass, which he wasn't supposed to do. And I think it did catch somebody in the front row. Really? Yeah. Hospital bills. Because, I, I, I, I,

Like, that's, that's a rumor. I've not confirmed that. Yeah. But it was wild. Was the exchange with Tom and who? And Jeff Ross. Jeff swears, yeah, where he went to, and that moment. Yeah, he said, like,

watching buddy or something like that. Yeah, because he made fun of Kraft's, you know, um, Florida incidents, right? Yeah. Yeah. And so, um, and he went up to him and he, like, said, cut the shit or something like that. Yeah.

Yeah. And, um, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff and him are cool. Like, you know, it really wasn't anything that was agreed to beforehand or whatever. And so. So it wasn't as big as people made it out to be, as Jeff told me. But the crazy thing is, is that moment is the most viral moment, you know, from the roast in terms of awkwardness instead of the other stuff being just like laugh out loud, funny

jokes. And so the cutaway in the middle of that is to me and my wife, Susie. And so we were everywhere because the cutaway, they kept cutting away to Susie and I, just like laughing. Yeah. You know, and I don't know why. I mean, it's great because she looked out. Yeah, there it is right there.

I mean, that's her reaction right there. Because Robert Kraft wrote her letter of recommendation for college. She's known him forever. Really? Yeah. So, and obviously he's one of my 32, 33 bosses because, you know, I'll admit I'll have a boss. A few. You know.

And so they cut away to us. But it's a funny joke, man. I mean, again, it's a roast. It's a roast. It's a roast. Of that awkward. moment. Yes.

Did you like feel the awkwardness in it or was it kind of like a fleeting passing by it happened to just catch traction? No, I was just laughing. It was funny. I thought honestly. I didn't see Tom go up to him because I just like, nor did Susie because you know her faces in her hand. I just figured Tom was like being funny himself like to where you're whispering something

but you know it's going to be heard. Yeah. Like there's a microphone right here and you're just like essentially talking to him. I think that everybody's going to be able to hear it. In all honesty, I think the first hour of the roast like if you asked Brady, he probably wouldn't remember it. Like he was black like just it it's I can't imagine being the roasty you know like that. Yeah.

And honestly going through the divorce all that like it's funny too. Right. It was all out there. He goes at Kraft and he that's when he gets mad. But all the things about his wife also deflating balls and all that stuff. Was that the joke where Kevin Hart said something long long? Was it Kevin Hart? Talk about the black like she she's taken 15 lessons of Jiu-Jitsu and still has like a white belt.

Oh, how'd you don't see that coming that was Kevin? Yeah. Oh my. God, I mean, it was often, he was great too, Brady, when it was his turn to roll. Yeah, he was. It was all really good. There's, of the guys that aren't comedians,

who did you think did the best? Wow. Bledso was great. Gronk did in fact write most of his stuff, like at one point he goes, I wrote that, huh? Like, he, that wasn't his, that wasn't his, him being,

you know, just trading in on his persona just for a joke. He legitimately, wrote that and was proud of how he wrote that. Yeah. Nice. And it's great. So I, you know, so from my vantage point where Susie and I were sitting, so I'm sitting here, the stage was to my left, sort of like in the position where you are and where Jack is over there, you could see the prompter that they were reading off. So it's kind of like, you know, when you go to a football game, like in

Dallas or if you've been in one in L.A., sometimes you'll be watching the game on the big screen and you have to remind yourself there's a live football version of it. Like you're here at the game, you should watch it down on the field instead of on the huge big screen. Sometimes, though, I would be looking over at the prompter

and seeing what they were saying on the stage was that readlibbing or not and how they were following it. Gronk was way off of his prompter. Yeah. Like it way off. Like I felt bad for the prompter operator trying to keep up and find out

where he was going to try to pick back up again. Like that person had a, like, had a, had a rough 10 minutes. Yeah, a hell of a day. Like needed a nap after the, after the roast. Well, even Tony. Tony was supposed to say at his seat, right?

And then he had to, he went up and said a whole bit. No, I think he was supposed to start at his seat and then get up on stage. That's what I heard. Again, I haven't spoken. He was telling me that it was like he had like a minute or two at the table, but was not supposed to go up on the stage. Oh, is that right? Yeah.

It might have changed. It might have changed right before because he was a very, he was a late addition to the entire thing. Well, and so were a lot of people. That's my point. The reason why it was three hours long is they put a lot of, you know, hooks in the water to get people. And a lot of people committed really late. And so they're like, all right, we'll just make it longer.

Like, what are you going to tell Will Ferrell? No, you can't play, you know, Ron Burney. It was great to see you get out of here, you know what I mean? Belichick and Kraft, you know, I heard Kraft was a late ed and they just like Goodfellas. They flew a table in and put it right in the front, you know? That's awesome. And so I didn't care. It was great.

For a three-hour roast, it felt like half that time. It was great. Was there anything in there that the room kind of deflated a little bit? Were there any jokes that people were like, maybe too much? Ben Affleck. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah.

Ben kind of, it was a weird showing, right? Well, it was also late too. And, you know, and I know a lot of the comics up there, you know, if they're not, like, I bet you if you ask Tony next time you saw him, like, you know, hey, where, were you, when you're sitting. there with you know in the in the crowd where you like looking at your watch like when am when am i going to get up there because comics don't want to go up late two hours in people might be laughed out you know it might not be the best time to get up there so but it that's what was fascinating to me listen to him because he's big into like he was kind of speaking about it from the game and

the science of it all he's like i had to switch up a lot of my jokes because when nicky kills it up at the top and then he goes on like an hour or two later you can just feel the room shift to where he had to like maneuver different jokes from because he's like this isn't going to hit at this point no doubt i by the way i geek out on stuff like that for the lack of better phrase i did stand up in college at michigan at the u club yeah which is now a panera bread i think um so um and and um that toughest thing i've ever had to do my entire life is to do stand-up comedy it did it once every six weeks from sophomore year all the way to the end and um but it was also a little easier for me because all my friends were there packed the house.

house so I kind of knew what the audience would be doing. My big, my big finale was to read the penthouse forums in Howard CoSell's voice, you know, and again, I'm dating myself for a lot of your audience. People are Googling Howard CoSell right now, which frees now. And possibly Pennhouse. Yeah, perhaps too. And the forum letters and whatever. And so, like, that was my, my act for like three years. Tried it in Livonia for like on a laugh shack in a small town there and outside of Ann Arbor. And there were like five people in the audience. audience and I'm like I am not cut out for this so yeah was it was it like a thing you might have wanted to pursue or was that million percent absolutely into the point where you know where I'm

I'm I'm on a show any show that I've done from Sports Center NFL network my my current show like if I say something that I think is funny and I don't hear an immediate feedback of laugh I think it's fallen flat so I basically have told anybody that I've any show that I do any show that I do I go to everybody on the floor after you know and tell them if you think something's funny you know like laugh out loud like i don't i don't think people at home would think like a studio show is worse because you're hearing a reaction of somebody on the floor like that's what nflop game day morning like if you hear when we're having fun some for the first few years you know the the crew because it's not their job to laugh at my shit right it's their job is to you know make sure the

show looks great and sounds great and all that business, I would go up to them. I'm like, just go ahead, laugh. You know, like the energy is, that's the way I kind of work. A couple of shows I've done at Super Bowls for my show or in front of live audiences. I love it. Can't get enough of it. Just the energy of a crowd. I love it. And that's why I love roast. I love roasts. You just love comedy. I do. You know what? I do. That's beautiful. I'm so glad I came on this bus to confirm that. It's a therapy session. But that's what we do. Like even watching like, on TV, if you hear people in the background, like I catch myself to where if you say something funny,

I might be like, oh, that was funny. But if people are laughing with you, you're almost like subconsciously grinning and smiling and feeling having more fun with it too. And you have a- Distant laughter is always a great feeling. Right. When you hear it.

Correct. That's what it is too. You know, and I think maybe I get that also from growing up in New York listening to Howard Stern, you know, where you would hear the rest of his, you know, gang laughing. Right. out loud, you know, Jackie the joke man, Martling, you know what I mean?

Like his old school shows and now obviously current shows, for sure. Like 100%, you know, your guys react to what you're doing. People listening wherever they are or watching wherever they are, they'll react to it better. I always think that way. With the media now, and you kind of see this big transition, Mac if you're getting to ESPN, it seems more loose.

It's like the suit and tie is kind of going away. What have you seen since the beginning of being on ESPN to now, how much it's integrated, of like a casual. It seems much more casual now than it didn't even 10 years ago. We're on a bus, right? Well, yeah, but we're not a major network.

No, but you're main, yeah, you are, Barstall's a major network. Yeah, but I'm talking about like the, you know, Fox, Fox Sports, NFL network, ESPN. Traditional media you're talking about? Table, right? Because you see, it seems like it's changing quite a bit. That kind of TV.

That kind of TV right there. That suit that you picked out and said, this is the one. Men's warehouse, buddy. This is the one. Men's warehouse from East and Texas. I remember where I bought that. Not a bad mop on top of the head there. That's good.

at that. You miss it? You shouldn't. Hey, you shouldn't. You ever, you're a good looking bald guy. Yeah, yeah. Let me tell you. Do I, by the way, thank you. That's a win. Uh, it's a win. Now I'm glad I flew to Nashville. There it is. I feel better about myself and the shape of my head. Words of affirmation, brother. That's what we're here for. Thank you guys. But do you miss. Uh, yeah, of course I do. Uh, yeah, of course I do. But I'm also more aware of people's hair now. Are you? Yeah, of course. Yeah. I'm all more aware of it. But I, yeah, I look at stuff like that. it's so weird you know like certainly when I'm watching with my kids and you're watching a 30 for 30 or or something and my face will pop up like the uh the Jordan documentary the last dance you know

they pop me up showing a rodman um you know doing a rodman lead in from when he you know bolted the team or whatever and my kids are just like that's you like yeah that's me and great picture right there that's i remember we did that once upon a time that was Nate burleson's haircut back in the day on NFL networks they put that on my hair um but yeah so yeah i miss my hair thanks for asking no worse i hear but what the difference is the difference is is again like but you know um content can come from anywhere you know players now um instead of speaking after games will go and do their own podcast you know their own material isn't just what they put on a stat sheet it's what happens on the floor or a field or a court and then they take it to their own microphone.

So post-game press conferences aren't as crucial for them to do. Obviously, from my perspective, it's crucial for them to do because there's still a viability in having a professional question or ask questions of an athlete after a contest. But so there's that streaming. My show is streaming every single day. And that's not so-called traditional. But I think at some point, people will view that as traditional media. Right.

And then you guys. I mean, you're perfect examples. We are, aren't we? You are. Yeah. I mean, you, honestly, you are. Is that what you do and how you do it and you've got an audience, a significant audience, and an audience that is very, you know, die hard.

And so you may not be traditional because you're sitting on a bus and people will, you know, consume you in a way that's not just taking a remote and popping a television. on doesn't mean that it's a different it just means it's a different world there's obviously so many more ways like consume entertainment now for you is it was it more difficult because you have to follow so many more outlets well used to be pop on ESPN

NFL network no I mean I guess you know I hate the words social media it just sounds so stupid but um you know but I also can't say X either so I'm I'll I'll say Twitter till I die but um that you know I'll I'll look at that or other you know, news outlets or whatever.

I'll see it that way. But, you know, it changed SportsCenter. I mean, that happened. You know, when I started SportsCenter in 96, or when I started with SportsCenter in 96, you know, sports center already been, you know, like 15 years old at that point in time, or 17, actually.

But when I first went on the air with that flock of Siegel's haircut, you know, I, people were tuning in. to Sports Center because they hadn't seen it the game or that he'd seen it once. We assumed you hadn't seen a highlight of it yet. So you're tuning into a highlight show to see what happened or see it again for the first time. Especially with baseball too. Like you get the top 10 baseball at nighttime. You're like caught up on all the games that kind of happened that day. Sure. So that's the way it started. And then towards the end of it, you know, again, I know I keep aging

myself on this show, but with the advent of phones and the popularity of the internet, I kid you not, man, it's the truth. Yeah. That SportsCenter went from the show I just described to assuming anybody was watching it, had already not only seen the game, knowing the result, but had already seen highlights of it multiple times in the palm of your hand or on your home computer. And so the show then changed for an anchor from being, you know, somebody who's turning a phrase, dropping a line here and there, having fun and giving out the information, to being a host of

two analysts arguing why something happened. And I freaking hated that. Hated it. I didn't like it at all. So it less highlights. Instead of doing a highlight that was two minutes long, it's now 40 seconds long. Let's bring an analyst on. Like when Sean Salisbury and John Clayton, like,

like had like a school yard fights and I was the anchor sitting in the middle of it saying okay guys let's move on you know and I hated that hated it I was I complained about it and I don't know if that's the reason why I was handed a cardboard box but I was and and so yeah the show changed I didn't want to do it as much anymore as they wanted me to do it so there was a parting of the ways about nine days before my wedding And so my head was completely spinning. And NFL network, you know, was the obvious choice for me to. How soon after the ESPN?

Right away. So even right before the wedding, you're going to talk with the NFL network. No doubt. So your head was spinning for like 12 hours. Well, no, because I had another option too. Like, nice. Hey, heard you got fired. You know what this job?

He's like, oh, my God, my life is horrible. All right, I'll take it. No, no. In all honesty, I thought I'd be at ESPN forever. It was my, you know, it was my identity, 26-year-old kid. Sports Center ESPN. It was like a big program too. A hundred million households, you know.

And, you know, and then I, the other option I had at the time was Turner Sports was remaking their Braves broadcast. They wanted me to be the play-by-play guy for the Braves broadcast. And I just got married, didn't want to start my marriage off by saying, I'm going on the road for 70 games.

Just probably wouldn't have been a really productive job for me. Made a hard, honeymoon hard. And so, And then the other option was move out to Los Angeles and plan a flag for NFL network for an executive name, Steve Bordenstein was the president of ESPN when I first started there. And he handpicked me to start NFL network. And I'm like, that's it.

So I went and I did that. So, but it was an identity crisis where I'm like, what the hell am I going to do? Was it was the firing sudden? Hell yeah. Like we had like, we had like 72 hours left. in a negotiating window. And then I got a fax.

My agent got a fax saying we were done. And then 10 minutes later, a phone call from USA Today asking for comment on why I wasn't renewed. And I'm like, well, who the hell said that to them? Because only my future wife and my agent at the time knew that this had happened. I'm like, holy shit. So it was, but listen, I honestly, I have nothing but the fondest of memories from them and friends galore.

Like, you know, still, I'm, I'm, tight with a lot of people from back then, Dan Patrick, Keith Olber and K.O. and I will text frequently, you know, Chris Fowler was at my wedding. You know, I just, you know, just saw him the other, you know, a couple months ago. I love the guys. And Linda Cohn, a bunch of people I'm still friendly with. Long story short, though, that's the difference, you know what I mean, like how the business has changed. That was from 96 to 03. Now this is 21 years later. And, and that's the thing I love about the show that I do is that every day if you want to watch it live you can you know on the roku channel um and then you want to listen to it live you can on terrestrial radio with westwood one or

you want to serious xm or tune in if you want to stream it audacy if you want to stream it live you can if you want to watch it on demand there's you know the roku channel has that it also repeats on the the channel 210 that i'm on and there's also youtube clips and And then there's also the podcast version of it, all three hours. So you can listen to it on demand. You can also, we chop it up, Twitter and Instagram and TikTok and all that. So there's different ways to distributing stuff now, even better. Quite honestly, it used to be just one one viewing somewhere.

Now it's, you can put it everywhere. Right, because people don't have either the time or inclination to take in something live. They have a right to listen to it or why. it whenever they want. So if you can cover all those bases, like that's the win. And how much better is that than the past? So that's how it's changed. I know it's been 21 years since you were at ESPN, but what did you miss the most from

ESPN? Because going from doing all sports to just NFL. You're talking about how much you love baseball. You knew every single team, every single player. Do you miss that stuff or is that just unnecessary hard work? I get to still do it on a daily basis on my daily show. But, you know, if I missed anything about it, it was just the platform. I mean, those four letters are pretty popular.

Yeah, you feel like that's the pros. I'll not forget. So I started with NFL Network. We went on the year week 11, or week 10 of the 2003 season. I don't know why we decided to start in the middle of the season. I just, we weren't ready. Stux didn't get in a row, whatever. At any rate.

So we were 11 weeks old during our first Super Bowl. And so my wife, like I told you, she's in the business as well. So she was working with NBA TV and Turner. She did some sideline for TNT, NBA on TNT. And so the NBA All-Star game was in LA of February of 2004. Again, NFL Network launched in November of 2003 and about, shit, about 15 million homes in NFL, and ESPN was in like 110 million homes at the time.

And so I basically willingly, or not willingly, but again, I got handed a cardboard box, but 100 million, almost 100 million eyeballs locked off of what I was doing, just like that. And so I went as Susie's plus one to a couple of these NBA parties for the All-Star game. guy comes up to me, goes, Rich eyes, and I watch you every day. And I'm like, oh, wow, this is cool so I can crowdsource how he's watching NFL network, because I didn't know who

was watching it at the day. Okay. So I said, oh, wow, you get NFL network? He goes, what's that? And I'm like, that's what I'm on. He goes, you're not on ESPN anymore? I'm like, I haven't been on since last May. That was my last sports center, May of 03. I mean, I haven't been on ESPN in like eight months, nine months. And he goes, really? And I'm like, yeah. And he paused and he goes, are you all right. That's what he said to me. And I'm like, were you? I'm like, well, I said to him, well, at that point in time, I was now offended. I'm like, you know, like, I'm standing in front of you, like talking. You have a mirror? I'll fog it up for you. Yeah. You know, like, I mean, and he got aggressive on the guy. He gave up to me. He said he was a fan, you know, but I'm like,

you know, I've kind of, you know, got my hackles up. Yeah. So I'm like, but that was the general sense of why would you, I even get those questions today. Why did you leave ESPN? Why would you do that? 20 something years later. Yeah. But I'll still walking through an airport have people hum the Sports Center theme as I'm going through security, you know? That's pretty cool.

Leaving a mark. Which is great. That honestly makes sense because with social media not as big as it is now, you're able to know any move that happens. Like when Skip leaves FS1 or Fox, you know about it, you know why, you know the rumors.

Everybody's tweeting and posting. But when NFL network was coming on, what years was that again? 0-3. Right. So like we're right, we're in high school going into college. You almost just see you are now on NFL network and you're almost thinking like it's hard to disassociate the two.

Like, okay, NFL network might just be ESPN. It's like maybe they just have them on this show. To where you really didn't know that there's like, oh, there's NFL live going on. And then there's like, what was it on? What are the two different shows? It was NFL Live and the other comparable one on. NFL Total Access.

NFL Total Access. Yeah. To where then you started to realize like, okay, there's two different networks. Let me tell you something. But when you're in high school too, you're not realizing these other businesses are doing X-1s.

You're thinking, oh, man, they all work together. Right, exactly. There was no NFL live when NFL network started. And I, you know,

again, I will... Trailblazer. It's not just me. It's literally everybody that started NFL network and has worked on it to be very honest with you. Like we,

when we first started, you know, I remember they, you know, I went on Kimmel's show to help promote it. And he even said to me, he goes,

what are you going to talk about? He said to me that you'll be back on ESS. SPN by the spring. And it was a big laugh line in the, in the, in the room. It's funny. It was funny, but it did kind of like, you know, hit me in the gut a little bit here.

Take a lot of gutchuster in this time. But that's what a lot of people were saying, what are you going to talk about when there's no games on? I remember, again, one of the final sports centers I did in, in April of 2003. We were in an ideas meeting before. Like, what are we going to do? We have some time to fill. And somebody brought up, let's do a breakdown of, you know, some of the top,

team you know secondaries in the NFL like let's break it down what the best second is in they were laughed out of the room they're like what are you talking about it's opening day it's it's masters it's march madness I got to talk football literally that was set in the room now there's 15 other shows like that on ESPN and everywhere else and I think that is large part to NFL network showing you can talk about it every day you not only can talk about every day there's a market for it there's an insatiable appetite for it. You know, we mercilessly made fun of to have a show based on the schedule being released. Because, again, you know, you know when a season's over the next season, who plays who

and who plays who where. You know it. It's all handled based on what year it is for your team to play another division. And then where your team finished in your division order, then you certainly play other teams and other divisions finished in the same place. You know exactly. Just the only thing you don't know. was the order of where you play them and on what channel and at what time it's the only difference

and so basically we made a show is celebrating the the you know announcement of paperwork you know what I mean like here's here's your schedule and we made a big deal out of it and we had merciless fun made of us now everybody's fascinated about it yeah my god now you're playing three out of four on the road in December like that's NFL network the combine perfect example you know now some coaches don't even go to the combine because they watch it on NFL network, they get a better view of shit than they do up in the stands through their little binoculars.

You know, so I will absolutely on behalf of everybody take credit for the NFL being everywhere right now. The NFL has done a great job of making it a year-round event. Everything that you hit the schedule, the draft, the combine. Right. Like in July, you guys are still

talking about things as well. Exactly. Now people can't wait for training camps to open. Right. There's always rumors of putting around. Whoever, you know, the first day of training camp, I bet in 03, when we first launched, there might have been like five reporters in these places. You know what I mean? Like, now it's who's not signed, who's going to get signed? Like, what's going to happen?

And fans are just like, who am I going to draft in my fantasy teams? It's unbelievable, you know? So absolutely, it's totally changed. You know, and in terms of just one last thing on the ESPN thing, like the biggest exposure, distribution I've ever had in my career, were those 2 a.m. sports centers and then 1 a.m. Eastern sports centers that I did with Stewart, mostly, where we would do it live, and then we would wait till whatever games on the West Coast were done if they were still going on, close the show up, edit it together, like folks would

edit it together, but it would be edited together after we were done with it. And if there was any mistakes live, we'd have to stay afterwards and fix them. That's a lonely moment. at like 3.20 in the morning when you have fucked up and everybody's got to stay late because of your screw up. You know what I mean? That's not fun. But we would do it. And then I would go home, 4 a.m. 4.30, try and just calm down because you're hyped up from doing it. Go to sleep. And then at 5 a.m., that show would re-air all the way through to one in the afternoon. And I would be dead asleep for seven of those hours. While I'm asleep, everybody's watching it. Biggest exposure of my career television-wise was when I was sleeping for those.

And to this day, I will still get people come up to me and it freaks me out, you know, because they're there with their children to say I watched you before going on in the school bus, you know, before I went off to fifth grade, you know, I would watch you and Stewart do this thing.

Nowadays, there would never be a show that's seven hours old that's shown on TV. You know what I mean? Like news is breaking. Now there's get up and first takes and all of this shit. You know, I shouldn't say shit, but all of this stuff that's on the air. All this shit.

You know, by the way, I don't want it to sound like I'm disrespectful. All this stuff that's on the, my show is part of the shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're talking about stuff that's on the air happening right now. You know, and TV shows that are radio shows that are simulcast in the TV.

I mean, Dan Patrick is the pioneer of that. My show was put on after his on direct TV. That's the way my show exists. Is that, you know, is that Dan showed it can be done. And so they hired me to go after. after Dan. And so at any rate, long story short, is that's the difference as well as I still get people. It blows me away. They're like grown ass men who are like 40, 38, 37 women who are at that age as well, 35, who are 20 years younger than me? I'll be 35 in September.

Oh, September. Okay. Great. So, yeah, I will get that. And I love it. You know, it's obviously a blessing to be, you know, here in 2024 and have literal generations who are older saying that they remember, you know, when I did stuff. So I'll, I take. Stuart. Yeah. And this might sound anger, but I'm really trying to make sure I know that he had the glass eye, right? He passed away recently. He didn't have a fake eye. No, you didn't have a fake eye. He had an eye that was, you know, like a lazy eye. He had a bad eye. Oh, I thought that boy was just missing one. No, no. He just, he, he, he, and then his good eye, um, got injured, I believe even worse because he, he tried out for the jets one, um, spring as sort of a, a, uh, a piece to go, um,

they would following cameras and just try and see how difficult it is to make a team and whatever, but Stewart literally thought he was going to make the jets. What could he run? I don't, he, he's an excellent athlete. I mean, an excellent athlete. But I mean, but to catch passes in the NFL. Yeah, across the middle. Come on.

But he, like, and he would say to me, you know, you ever ask Alan Iverson, he's spoken into existence and like, and he meant it. You, I meant it. Like a stack of bibles. He swore he was going to make it. But I was genuinely concerned because, you know, with his, his eye and his eyesight, whenever we got highlights, you know, and the paperwork handed, to us during a commercial break of these shows.

We had to turn the lights up. They would turn the lights down because they're hot and they would during a commercial break give us a break of the light sitting us. But he didn't want that because he needed the light to see better. So that guy trying out and having football stoned at him,

I told him, I'm like, really? And he would just, he didn't want to hear any nonsense about, yes, that's the way, right. So you were hated. And his eyes, he's like, oh, Rich's... No, of course. He might have even used that word at me. He might have even use that word.

You know, like... And then one time a ball came out of the jugs machine and hit him in his good eye. So you were right? No, no, but it hurt him. It really hurt him. And so his... So he had the lazy eye and his other eye was more injured than his lazy eye.

That was... I don't know the science behind a lazy eye. But long story short, though, is, you know, and... I mean, that guy was the greatest. I mean, and it was... It was awesome doing shows with him. I can't imagine having a guy like 2 a.m. 3 a.m. doing a show with him for that long.

And he's got to be one of the guys who love the most. In the energy that he had too. Yeah. I mean, it's not just that too. I mean, he was true to himself, man, which is the greatest you could be in this world. It's just like anybody that's telling you you can't or you shouldn't or he was just absolutely pure. the guy that you saw on TV was the guy that you saw off the air. And he was, he was just, he was awesome.

There was just being around him and his personality and his essence. And again, at the time, I met my wife in the newsroom of ESPN. And, you know, it took a while till she understood what my depth of feeling for her was. And it was matched, to put it that way. Yeah. You know, I was a little bit older. And so she was trying to figure out life, or at least that's the way I'm going to say it,

even all these years later. But she just wanted to be just friends to use the phrase for a while. And Stuart, you're a friend zoned. Dude, I got friend zoned. And so Stewart though, would play both of us towards the middle. Like whenever I got discouraged, hang in there. Whenever she was just like, you know, just friends,

he's just, come on, what do you, like, what's the big deal? She's that guy, he's doing too much. Exactly, I was definitely, there's no doubt I was that guy. I think I probably told her I loved her within a month. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So, but, but Stewart would always play us towards the middle. And so on, on our wedding day, there's a photograph of Stewart, you know, with looking at the wedding ring, holding my hand and with a big smile on his face.

And part of the look on his face wasn't just like, you know, hey, man, you know, you finally got what you wanted. But it was a look of, we did it. Yeah. You know, like, we did. The ultimate wingman. Yeah, we, we did this, you know. And so, yeah, man, like, that's Stewart. Like, that's real deal where he's, and I'm sure you could talk to a bunch of people.

He would always tell you about, you know, and it kind of would get some awkward with some people, like, where he would say, when are you going to have kids? You got to have kids. You know, like, well, wait a minute, you know. He would talk about that all the time, you know. So when his two daughters speak about him, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, truth man that's awesome he's a good in working in that industry with him what are a couple things you feel like you learn like working beside him especially being young well i mean it it was it was interesting you know like um he he he didn't like it when uh so when keith olberman left there was a seat

next to dan on what was called the big show at the time and um i wanted it you know i wanted it the 11 o'clock eastern so you do it once and you do it once and you go home at midnight, not stay up till four in the morning, whatever. And he knew it and I, I, I, I, I wanted it. And he was like, um, like, why? Like, we're the big show. What we're doing. You know, we're more current. Where the, where the people? Like, it's, it had nothing against Dan. Just like, why are you going to try and fill someone else's seat when we're creating our own greatness. And I kind of sat there and I thought to myself, okay, I understand and and maybe, just maybe that had, you know, again, circumstances were, were forced upon me, but to start off something

with NFL network and start something that's my own, you know, hearing that in the back of my head, Stewart's saying, you know, we're doing something of our own, like that has value too. Yeah. But it was also difficult to do a show with him from time to time because I had a line like, man, I was going to nail this line. I had a great line. I was prepped for the highlights, you know, and prepped to do it. And he would jump in.

He would start talking over my highlight. You would steal your line. No, I wouldn't steal my line. He would just burst in because that was his personality. It's not like, it's not like, you know, it was about him. But that was his, you know, his style as to jump into my stuff. and it took a while for me to, you know, have to not get pissed off about it.

Did he ever know that? I would say to him from time to time, like, you know, like, what's up with that, you know? And he would just smile. What's up with that? What do you mean? You know, because again, like, you don't want to, you don't want to stunt any chemistry. You know what I mean? And also, how do you say that without basically saying,

hey, man, that's my highlight. It's my time. Yeah. You know. Not sounding. When his response would probably be, you know, like, you can do that with me too. You know? So, yeah.

But just one last story about Stewart, just to show you about some of the stuff that he was, you know, dealing with at the time and negotiating so expertly is his pop culture phrases would be for a lot of the African American viewing public. And that would make a lot of people who were watching the show were, you know, whites say. he's not doing the show for me. Yeah. He's doing it for someone else. And that's suddenly now the show that I thought was for me is not for me anymore. And he would be the avatar for that sort of thing. And eating, I mean, of course he cared, but he didn't change a thing for him.

And a perfect example of how he would, you would make him bristle a little bit. Because it was unfair, to be honest, straight up honest. because, you know, he was doing it in the manner, not just he's doing it for himself. You know, like, that's him. That's his fingerprint. That's his essence. That's his DNA on the screen.

Okay. And so the fact that it would be a criticism for him was, was difficult for him to swallow, but it never made him waiver. So I remember, again, this is the, you know, late 90s. So I would do a Seinfeld line, you know, a line from, Seinfeld, which is a show Jerry Seinfeld hosted.

Show about nothing. So, hosted. He starred and he wrote. Yeah. Kevin Hart? Similar, white. Yeah, different jokes. Holy shit. Different jokes.

At any way, what's the deal with Airplane? Seinfeld was a very popular show, number one on TV. Yeah. So I would use a line from Seinfeld. It was after, it was before. Before friends? Before friends. And must see TV Thursday night on NBC.

Anyway, so don't pop. The B movie. B movie is not the Seinfeld. That actually did really well. That did really well. What's the matter with you? That movie did well.

That's the matter with that's Seinfeld? Oh, okay. What the hell? Mouth open all the time. Honestly, that's almost as bad. Like I'm talking about De Niro movie

and you're going to put up like war with grandpa or something. Come on, man. There you go. There's Seinfeld right there. He's a bald one in the middle. Oh my God. No, he's the one on the right.

No, this one right here. That's Jerry. No, it's not. That's George. No, George is on the right. No, that's Jerry. That's Costanza on the left right there. No, no, no, no.

I just, I want a cultural Will up. I want him to know. I appreciate that. Yeah, big show. And De Niro, are we talking to meet the parents? Holy shit. Yes, yes. We're talking to meet the parents.

And meet the fuckers. Hold on a second. We're going to put a pin in this conversation. I think those were his breakthrough roles. He went on the screen, did those two, and then he came off the screen. I hung him up after that. Okay. Yeah.

Man, I love. that we're teaching wooled or something here. At any rate, you're actually rich too. At any rate, Stuart, I made a line from Seinfeld. We rolled a break, commercial break, mics are off,

and he turns to me, goes, what was that? And I'm like, that was a line from Seinfeld from a couple weeks ago. And he looks at me, goes, Seinfeld, huh? And I'm like, yeah, and goes, brothers don't watch Seinfeld.

That's what he said. And it kind of like hit me. I'm like, okay, so I'm giving a pop culture line that I feel is, you know, relatable from the audience, that they'll get it. And he's basically saying, there's a lot of people out there

and I'm going to get it. And so when I say something, a lot of people don't get, I'm the asshole. Like, essentially was the subtext of what he said in just that little moment. Did you start watching Martin after that? Good one.

Thank you. Good one, man. That's a good one. And by the way, subscribe. No, no, no. You pulled something from that era of pop culture as well. That was impressive, Will.

You pulled that out of your ass. You're sure. I had some roommates that were athletes about. So let's go here. Let's go here. Let's go here. Did you know movies? Have you seen Goodfellas?

No. Oh, oh, hang on. Bring that up. I think I have. What do you mean bring that up? I think I have. You would know when you've seen Goodfellis. Yes.

Yes. I've watched it. I've watched that. The sun that grows up, right? He beats him out, beats him up outside of the grocery store. What the hell is happening here? What the hell is happening here? Is it a 22nd time on how long of these timeouts last, Jack?

20 to 22. Oh, me. You still play that. Okay. What's happening? What's happening? Time in, time in. So I have seen that.

That was on me. That was on me. The one on the right is Robert De Niro. Oh my God. Oh. I thought that was Al Pacino. Is it worth? Do you want me to keep going or, or have you seen Raging Bull?

Bring that up. I've seen good fellas. I've seen it multiple times. All right. Raging Bull, everybody. Have you seen this? He plays Jake LaMotta. It's a classic.

Have not. All right. That's Jake Lamata or Rocky Marciano? You definitely haven't seen taxi driver or anything. Like Deer Hunter, you've not seen anything. Are we still talking about Jerry Seinfeld? No, we're done. Is that what we're...

Taxi driver. That's with the... Queen Latif. The autistic driver, right? Oh my God. Yeah, taxi drivers... Taxi drivers from over there. The dude from the Nuitifa.

said. Gosling. Ryan Gosling. He wasn't even born when this movie came out. You sure? I'm very sure. All right.

What other potential questions? No, what other potentials? I want to know about the combine because we've done the combine the last two years ago. You're great at it, dude. Thank you.

You're welcome. It's really fun with you. Oh, there he is. Yeah. Yeah. How boring does it get towards the end, though? No, not boring at all. It's got to get tough.

No, no, no, no. because, because listen, no, no, no, no. My first question is your job. That part's pretty boring, no, no, no. Because you turn it into sports talk radio. You know what I mean? It's so quiet. It's like golf to me a little bit where it's like,

it's a little more, how are we doing? Although, although they're now letting fans in. Like when Xavier Worthy broke the record this year, it was electric. And you look at it. It was amazing. Just going back being like, man, I wish I did that in 14. And because in 14, you would run your 40 and then you go over to the boys with their phones, you're like, hey, you ran X, Y, and Z.

Hell yeah, but now they're showing what you got. Right away. The fans are cheering. And I think it's awesome. I don't think Worthy would have ran at a second time if he'd already known what his first time was on the spot. You don't think so? I don't know.

Somebody might have told him. I shouldn't say that. You know. But I don't know if he'd have run it a second time. I don't know. I just think the way that is that now that the guys see the time and there are fans reacting to it. Oh, you keep showing me, huh?

Anthony Richardson running straight. Yeah, 40-yard dash. I'm not fast. I don't think you're running. That's good form. No. But I don't think that's a maximum effort. When do you think it really starts to go downhill?

When I run my 40? Yeah. As soon as it starts. But I'm saying when do you think like something? No, no, no. It goes downhill as soon as it starts. But I know I've got a bat. Like as soon as I pop up, I know I'm, I've started poorly.

I know that you save time. You get high. You get too high. You save time at the start. And you save time, you know, midway through. That's where you've. But I'm. saying at what point does a tire blow out and you're on

immediately. Dude, come on, man. In real life, like, you're probably going to hurt yourself. I have hurt myself.

One year I blew out a hamstring doing it and I'm like, I can't show that. And Mayak goes, you have to show it because it shows you that more than ever that you're relatable. You're human. It's literally what he said. And I'm like, oh, wow,

that's pretty cool. All right. So let's do it. And as soon as we showed it, Mayok made merciless fun of me and called it a sniper in the dome. It must be a sniper in the dome. And I turn it, I'm like, you're the one who said to show it because it makes it relatable.

And you've been lying in the weeds to make fun of me. Like, what the hell is that? But the sniper thing, that's... It's a funny, it's a funny line. It's more new generation. Listen, man, if I can't take a joke, this never would have happened. So, because this is not good for me. How did this come about, the Run, Rich Run?

So it started like many things in our business of being totally bored waiting for something to happen. So we were doing total acts. in 2005 in the old RCA dome. Terrell Davis was thinking about doing television at the time, so he was with us. Sort of the same way, you know, towards the end of your career, you started, you know, popping on NFL network

and cutting your teeth doing broadcasting. 2014, I did it with you as well. You don't remember. Before the end of your career. Looky year. Listen, man, bottom line is... In the prime of your career. In the prime, in the prime.

So TD came on and I remember sitting there, and we were barely trying to stay awake because we were two hours until total axes were going live. And I'm suited and booted, and I just, I don't know why. I just out of a sheer boredom, I don't know why the thought popped in my head. I looked down at the field. I'm like, maybe I should run the 40-yard dash just to stay awake or whatever. And I'm like, how fast you think I can run the 40?

And he said, you? Like that? I'm like, yeah. He goes, when? I'm like, now? He goes, like that because I'm dressed in a suit and tie and in dress shoes. I'm like, yeah. And he goes, you can't.

And I said, fuck you. Sort of the same way that I said that to you earlier I literally cursed at him Did you? This is good, I'm on a show like this one Normally I'll just say I cursed at him and moved on it You say whatever you want on the show I'm actually able to say exactly what I said to One of the sweetest men and greatest men of all time

And greatest players of all time So he laughed and I went down and I had no idea There's the first 40 I had no idea You could see there's no one on the field I had no idea they were recording this in the truck And I had no idea someone was shooting it None You had no clue

No clue. You didn't peek over. Like this camera was right, you know, and that's kind of right there. I see it with that. A little suit movement there. You saw that right? Maybe I did just go away. And so later on that night, they showed it on total access surprised me at the end and timed

it out at 6.77 seconds. And what you're showing now on the screen was Matt Millen showing up the next day and asking to see it. He showed up the next day and Holmgren showed up the next day. There's Terrell Davis. and they're like, did I see you run a 40 last night? And I'm like, yeah. So then they would show it and they were laughing.

I thought nothing of it. Show up the next year of the RCA dome and the first guy I see on the field is Holmgren, fresh off of the NFC championship season, the Seahawks. And he says, you're going to run it again. And I'm like, no. And he goes, you've got to beat your time. And I'm like sitting here thinking to myself,

huh, you know, he's not wrong. And so here it is, I guess, the next year of me running it. And I broke it better and it's not great. Let off the gas a little bit those last couple of yards. I know. And so I kept doing it again and again and again. And it started to get tired. You know, the bit was tired.

And then they created the simul cam technology on NFL network where you can overlay one 40-yard dash on another. And it came up with the idea of overlaying my 40-yard dash over real 40-yard dashes. And it was slapstick funny, man, where you would watch me get headstarts and the fastest people run through me or, you know, we're off at the same time.

And RG3 would be off the screen by the time I'm at the five-yard line. If you could call up Mount Cody, Terence Cody, that one. That's the one or BJ Raji. That's the one that kind of made it go viral because you would watch me run a 40-yard dash and you'd watch, you know,

um, uh, me get a head start and then watch like Terrence Cody run through me, like the biggest guy. Like he would catch up to me and he'd run through me. And it, so that added like new life onto everything. Um, and so when that happened, it would become like people YouTube famous you know and so 10 years ago

some folks in the NFL network offices said you want to add a charitable component to it I mean like look at that like running through me it's just loud and I couldn't catch up to him and then Dion would make fun of me one time Dion ran as Leon Sandcastle and backwards backwards

he ran backwards and the first 20 yards he was stride for stride with me running backwards with an afro on his head you know so Dion greatest athlete of all time oh I don't know how him and Bo Jackson are like stride for stride but it's the real thing man

anyway so 10 years ago they asked to add a charitable component to it and they said I said of course and they gave me a list of NFL related charities to be a good idea to you know

coordinate with the NFL in any way we could. And so my three kids, five, three, and one at the time, two boys and a little girl. And so St. Jude Children's Research Hospital jumped off the page at me. And I'm like, that's the one. Like, let's do that.

Because there, but for the grace of God, go, Susie and I go anywhere else, anybody else to get that awful phone call. Like, I don't even want to imagine it. And how everybody who goes to St. Jude, never sees a bill for anything. And so St. Jude was all on board. And so some kids from St. Jude would show up at the combine and, you know, root me on a run.

And then in 2020, in 2020 when the pandemic, well, 2021 when the pandemic canceled the combine, because in 2020 we had it just before the world shut down. We did it in SoFi. and got some NFL legends to run with us as well and some very generous folks, philanthropists to run with them as well. Mark Lorry, who's one of the co-owners of the Timberwolves or involved with the Timberwolves ownership right now,

he got a bunch of people together. We raised a ton of money, and that kind of gave me an idea to just not do it at the Combine anymore, do it in Los Angeles, where you can have a stadium at your own disposal, You don't have to wait for everyone to run. Plus, run in the 40-yard dash when I would run it. I'd be sitting on my ass in the booth for eight hours, eating like sandwiches and whatever.

Not the best way. Not the best way. And then I'd warm up for five minutes and run it. Not smart. So we've done it at the Rose Bowl last three years. And I've done that for 10 years. We did our 20th, I did my 20th run this year. And it's getting bigger every year.

Annual event. It's pretty cool. At the Rose Bowl, too. It's the highlight of the combine. You know what? fast guys run. And now we run it. And Harbaugh showed up this year. You could see him there with Witt, Big Witt and Todd Gurley. Big Witt is maybe the best human being to ever play football. He's the, he's the best dude ever. He's showing, I mean, him and Todd Gurley on their own spare

time. The thing with Harbaugh, this is a good story. So, yeah, get into it, man. So this being the 20th year of it and the 10th year for the charity raise, Susie, again, my wife, got in touch with the free world to ask them to do videos and support of the run. People from our world and our Rolodex and our friends and whatever. And she would say, you know, how about this person? How about that person? She said, how about Belichick? And I'm like, I don't know if you'll do it.

She's like, give me his number. And then like an hour later, she's just like, guess who I had the most lovely conversation with? I'm like, get out of here. you know like that sort of shit would happen over and over and over again so one day i get a call from susie she's like guess who i just had the most like it started the same way every time you know with a little bit of an inflection of like you wouldn't you couldn't do this so i can do this you know yeah it's okay it's all good she's that's why they call them the better half so um so she uh she's like guess who i had the most incredible conversation with him like who she goes

jim harball and i'm like really and she goes and guess who might actually show up to the run I'm like, really? And Jim heard about it. And he goes, I think we're going to be in town. So Susie and his wife got together and we're talking about like getting them there. And so the day of the event, I'm like, is Jim going to show up? She goes, I don't know. Like, I think he might.

But he's like TBD. So sure enough, like 20 minutes before we're about to go out on the field to do the run, I get a call from Susie saying, because she's bringing our kids. She's almost there. She goes, Jim's there. Send someone upstairs to go get him. And I'm like, really? And she goes, yeah.

I'm like, so Jim shows up with his wife, his kids, brother-in-law, like coming in hot. With the cleats. He came in and he had on, you could see his charger hat and his Michigan Rose Bowl shirt, his gear. Because, you know, as we all know, a few months before, he retired Nick Saban on that field, you know. So to make the national championship, which Michigan eventually won. All facts.

In case we need to run down. information for those who may have missed it. Right. So he, so he, so I go up to him and I'm like, hey man, hey man, you know, thanks for coming, but we've got a whole camera crew here. Do you mind if we incorporate you into the run? You know, where I'd like before I run, you come up and you give me the same treatment you give to JJ McCarthy like slap me on my shoulders and, you know, give me some punches.

And he goes, absolutely, totally. So sure enough, we go out for the run. and before I do my run all of the kids because again we brought my kids their friends we had play 60 kids St. Jude kids we told anybody who's on the crew

bring your kids Rose Bowl's so cool they're like just go and run so my guy from my show Chris Brockman brought his little three year old son and we're just like run just as many kids that's that's him right there Cage Brockman and Stone Street would do doing videos and that's some of the people

that Susie got all everyone on the screen there. Anyway, long story short is the kids are about to run and the camera crew's ready and all of a sudden I hear from the 40-yard dash start line, all the kids are lined up, Jim Harbaugh on the bullhorn, he took the bullhorn from the director and started announcing every kid by name. Ladies and gentlemen, nine-year-old Kathy, you know, and she would run. Ladies, you know, 11-year-old George, right? My buddy, Chris Brockman's son,

kept running it again and again. He's three years old. His name's Cage Brockman. So, like, the fourth time you heard Jim go, he needs no introduction. It's Cage, you know, like that. And for half an hour. For half an hour.

And his brother-in-law said to me, this is Jim. That's him. Like, this is him all the time. And so I didn't know where he was coming. And then he did everything. He gave me the J.J. McCarthy treatment. By the way, that hurt.

Like, I didn't. It should. You know, like, he was really, he really, like, hit me in the chops a couple times. And, um, awesome. Just great. Showed up, showed out. Witt was amazing.

They were all great. And we, we raised about three-quarters of a million bucks this year. That's awesome. Yeah, that's amazing. But Jim is the best, man. But you already knew that. I know that, personally.

Did you know that? That Jim is the best? Yeah. I like Jim R. bowl a lot. You do? Yeah. Okay. Of course. All right. You didn't mention while Rich was telling a fantastic story about helping children at hospitals that Michigan has an asterisk on their national championship though. They do, but I'm still a massive fan of coach. How do they, how do they have it? How do they have it? Are we diving into this? Do we want to dive into this? Nebraska has an

asterisk of 97. Because Michigan also won it 97. Did Nebraska cheat in 97? Back then, probably. Who wasn't? I'm just kidding. Boom. Got them. No, that was that was the let's give Tom Osborne a gold watch present from, uh, from the coaches. Because I think, one the coaches pulled the trophy. The coaches were like, let's give Tom a gold watch on the way out the door.

You guys got the writers one. Yeah, we did. We did because the riders know best. No, the coaches do. Is that right? I didn't know that. Or they're biased. They're biased.

They're biased. Let's give it to, Tom Osborne. Yeah, Tom Osborne. Hall of Fame, whatever. Lloyd Carle got more. They probably thought, Lord Carl, Lord Carre would got more.

They're like, look at all the future Hall of Famers that were out there on the field wearing Maze and Blue. Nobody's touching the 97 House. Charles Woodson, Steve Hutchinson. 24, Michigan Wolverines would. dominate the 97-housers. Get out of here. The pipeline,

the O line that year, zero holding penalty. See that hat right there? The hat? Is that Tom? That's nice. That's Tom Osborne. That hat goes hard.

They need to bring back those 90s. By the way, by the way, yeah, he's got his name, you know, on the side. On the side.

Yeah, yeah, that's Tom Osper. Yeah, I didn't know if that was him or jazz. That was his headset. Yeah. But do we want to get into this? I mean, we can jump in. I think.

So where's the asterisk? What is it? You guys cheated. How so? Sign stealing. How so? How so? Tell me how the signs.

All the computers and technology. You guys were able to watch every team. Advances in the game, just like the simulcast cam. Just like what? So you're saying to me, so you're saying to me, okay. You're saying to me that because Conner Stallions got people he's never met tickets to shoot video of the other team's sideline that every single piece of video that they got was not only pristinely shot, but usable and completely translatable in the moment of games

to actually affect whether there's a tackle on the play or blow anything up. I think there's enough footage out there that shows counterstallions getting in the coaches year to tell everybody what's happening and nobody falls for anything that's going on except for the play. And the one, the one, the one. Several times. So the one that was most famous, the one that was most famous of everybody, they were all pointing up, right?

They're pointing up. Yeah. Right. And there's C.J. Stroud, future, rookie of the year, quarterback. That's one clip for sure. That's one of the clip for sure. Did you know that Ohio State scored on that drive? Yeah, you didn't know that, huh?

They scored on that drive. Let me tell you something. Tell it. The number of times that Michigan supposedly cheated to beat Ohio State worked so well that Ohio State had a lead in two of the three games. Really? Because I'll tell you what. If they were cheating, I would have loved to have been sitting.

I would have loved to have been sitting in a rocking chair a lot sooner than I did in either of those games. In either of those games, I would have loved to have just blown them out. I would have loved to have done that. How many times, probably you don't do this on vacation, but do you ever hand your phone to somebody else on vacation and say, would you mind taking a picture? Yeah. Okay. How many times when they take a picture is it really what you're looking for? Or you're seeing too much a mountain.

You don't see your other kid. You don't see this. You got to coach you up. Okay. You say, hey, you're going to do this. Is that right? Yeah. So everybody, everybody he gave tickets to didn't have like shaky video

and he had it and didn't give you like 90 minutes a video that maybe just maybe five minutes was usable. Five minutes. If I'm not going to say, I believe that that part is even illegal. So then what happened? What happened after Connor Stallions got blown out and the entire operation was found, busted and ripped out?

What happened after that? You guys went on the wind of the daddy. Oh. The linebacker coach. The linebacker coach, I think, resigned. and then went to Bama and you guys still beat Alabama even when they had one of their coaches.

Who probably gave them some insight into the playbook. Got ripped out. Yeah, for sure. Maybe. Root and Branch. There's no question that that linebacker coach it got 100%.

It's like when somebody plays on a team and they get cut and another team they bring their playbook right away. The Connor Stallion's system got ripped out root and branch. And Jim Harbaugh was informed that he wasn't coaching the team and Sharon Moore was coaching the team

at Penn State until they got off the plane. at Penn State and even then they were trying to get Jim on the field all the way up to about an hour and a half before kickoff and Michigan went out and beat Penn State in that game by jamming it down their throat 30 straight times because they realized that the guy Chop Robinson, who is now, I believe, a dolphin right now. They've realized that he was treating our right tackle like a turnstile, so let's figure out something mid-game. Let's figure out something mid-game. And the coach who did that and

the coaching staff who did that didn't know Jim wasn't going to be there until just before game time. So let's not give credit to that. Let's not give credit to beating Ohio State. Pardon me, the Ohio State. It's great win. Ripped out root and branch. And it's on them, too. If you thought we were cheating, then switch up your signal like everybody else does.

Yeah. It's not honestly. I don't want to hear this asterisk. I mean, there is an asterisk. No, and I know. And the NCAA. And how is it in an asterisk? How is it?

When they didn't have a coach. Let's say, let's say Michigan was cheating. When they got caught. They still had to play Penn State, Ohio State, Alabama and Washington, not in Maryland also, by the way, which I said was going to be the biggest trap game. By the way, no doubt. Biggest trap game in all the time. No doubt.

Top 10 team. Not a top 10 team. That's the hardest game in the middle. He's got a documentary coming out. He's got a documentary coming out. He's got a documentary coming out. I'm sure it won't look good. There will be times where it doesn't look good.

No question. I totally understand. Also. The manifesto was already in place. The manifesto was built for success with no coach there, bro. You could sit down Jim Harbaugh. The manifesto was still happening. Right.

And so if that, if. What you're saying is completely true. Shame on Penn State, Ohio State, Maryland, Alabama, and Washington for not changing a couple of signals. Because this week, instead of this being a pass, it's not going to be a run. And then they would all point up and they'd all back up and then it'd be a gash. Nick Saban had a month to prep. A month. And Nick Saban with a month?

How do you beat Saban with a better football team? Yeah. That's what you did. You guys, Conner Stallions was there since, what, 2019 or something like that? No. No. Wrong. Incorrect.

When was he? Search it up. 2021. The program is when he started sniffing around in 2022. Give me a break, man. This guy was selling vacuum cleaners and shit. How about that LLC? Who was it? Blake Warren had that LSC where he's just getting paid on the side.

21. Look at that right there. There was no Nile at that point. Let me just say this. Let me just say this. Okay. Now, now that the asterisk, if you will, is placed and whatever. You guys had the team.

When you guys got caught this past year, you guys had, the team established. The manifesto had taken its course. What does that mean? You guys didn't need, you guys didn't need the rest of the- What do you have about? Imagine believing that a bunch of pieces of paper make a football team great lines on paper. That's your guys' most important book. Will,

you understand what happens in a snap. It's like shit flies everywhere. You have no idea. You may think, oh, it's going to be a run, and all of a sudden they switch it up on you and it's not. You look to the coach on the sideline and they, you know, they do whatever hand signal going on, a little fairy dust, and you guys know exactly all 11 guys. Then why was Ohio State up before J.J. McCarthy beat them.

It ain't about Ohio State. I knew something was up when y'all beat us 40-something to seven this past year. 45 to 7. You keep talking about Ohio State. Like there were a bunch of other games played. Let me ask you a question. Go ahead. In all seriousness, you were there, right? You were there. Unfortunately, no, no, I remember how sad you looked. So walking out on that field before the game. You were on the field, right? Yeah. You're a man who's been around football, how long? 20-something years at least? Yeah, long time. Okay.

You can tell on the hoof who's better and who's not, right? Just looking at. Sometimes. All the time. You can go out there and look who's bigger, who's stronger, who's faster, and go, we're going to have a long day today, right? Yeah. You can do that.

You probably did that that day. Deep down, you're like, oh, shit. Okay. They're bigger, they're stronger than faster than us. I knew this is a beat tough game. Our quarterback isn't as good as that guy. Exactly. First drive, you kind of know.

Sure enough. third and short against playing. So if it wasn't, if you guys have a powerful football team. Got it. If you say we couldn't shock the world that day. Okay. Got it. We'll have to agree to disagree on that front, sir.

And we'll see what happens this year. But at least you got a guy who looks like Mahomes. You got that guy. He's going to be a hell of a ball player. Don't you think he shouldn't look like Mahomes? Well, I love that he looks like Mahomes. You do like that? Oh, yeah, bro.

You've been praying on Mahomes downfall for the last three years. And all of a sudden guy looks like Mahomes like all my favorite home's friend. I mean, come on. Why are you? hair like that when you and why wear your glasses and why in this part too the the the the chin the chin beard why like he's legitimately going for it the dad bond all of it he's got all of it he's got all of it he's got all of the mohom stuff going on yeah i i love it i love that a young kid it's the same person i love that a young kid coming out of high school number one recruit overall has somebody that he looks up to and would

love to emulate his game after i think we all had people we looked up how about this one The fact that he's getting that attention, too, I love it for him. How about this one? Mahomes' fourth on the top 100 list as voted by the players on NFL network. Shouldn't he have been like eight? What? Don't fall for that. Probably.

Come on. Seriously? Are you joking with me right now? Seriously. How is Mahomes not number one? I mean, Tyree, you know, what? What? I know.

And the Chiefs had a down year offensively than they did in recent years. Come on. I'm just saying. But when it comes to it, if you looked at it. When it comes down to it, get out of here. Between Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes, they had similar stats. I think actually Russell out had him a little bit too in the stats. You don't think.

I'm just saying, I'm arguing the point. Let me ask you this question. You're starting a team in the national football league. You take Tyree Kill over Mahomes? No. No. Okay. I don't agree with number one either. What are you talking about?

Who's number one to you? Trent Williams. McCaffrey was there. I think you got to go Lamar Jackson. Over Mahomes. He did win the MVP. I understand. This was based on the year.

Based on the year. The year includes the playoffs. When you're voting on something like this? The vote happens before the Super Bowl. Is that right? Yes. It happens. No,

it makes sense. Is that when it happens? They start to bring out the sheets. Why would they do that? Because that's when everybody's gathered together? I don't know. It's usually towards the end of the regular season. They start to write down, hey, right, here's a list.

All right. Now that makes sense. I guess I should know how my own network conduct its own poll. We're going to be, we're going to pretend that, it's not scripted for the chiefs. Taylor Swift comes on board.

Holy shit. You got Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes. Let me hold on a second. Is there a tinfoil hat somewhere in the bus? We got them. All I'm saying is it makes you take. Come on. Chief should not have won that Super Bowl last year.

And they did it for Taylor Swift? I think. Like seriously, how does that work? Tell me the mechanism by which this works. Who's the one who comes up with it? How do they communicate it to the important people enough that can actually handle all of it? Who's them? Like how does it work?

The people who run the media. Walk me through how it works. Please, please tell me how it works. Taylor Swift came in to the game. This whole thing with conspiracy theories that go on, including the person, I don't know if there's a brainworm around here from your previous guest. Whoa. Oh, Rich.

No, no, no, no. No, that's how it works these days is the conspiracy theorists, they don't tell you how it works. They just tell you it's just working. You know, they don't tell you, they don't give you the actual mechanism by which it works. So Taylor Swift shows up to all of Kelsey's games. And the NFL's like, we've got to make the Chiefs from the Super. And so Roger Godell, is it Roger? Is it Roger?

We don't talk about how much. I don't even think they think that short term. Now they want them to win the dynasty. So it'll be very fascinating to see how this year owns. They want them. Who's they? Like, who's the day? Exactly.

That's what we're trying to all. That's what everybody's trying to figure out. They want the NFL deep state. The NFL deep state. The NFL deep state. Yes. Goodell makes $44 million a year. Why?

How? Because of Taylor Swift? because he does some things behind. Dude, you guys don't really believe that. Do you really believe that? That Taylor Swift. What if Travis Kelsey made? What if the two of them break up?

How about this? Here's what I'll give you. I'm never so committed to an idea that I won't select something better. And I think that that one makes you think. Makes you think what? What does it make you think? And Rich,

you can be so close-minded, Rich, you think that this. Oh my God. Rich, I want to bring this up. For somebody who played the game in the league. And who got blood ball. very defensive. Well, that's...

You're getting very defensive for a company that you've worked for for 21 years. Who is to say you're not... I'm part of it. I'm in it. You can absolutely be part of it. Now you're on to something.

You're sniffing it out. You're sniffing it out. And now I see what you're doing. I'm so crucially important that you just like, it's like a jenga. Like you pull me out, you pull me out, the whole damn thing falls apart. That's why.

Billions of dollars. You're correct. They'll never let you go. I have leverage in a way that I never thought I did. See that? I'm so glad it can. came on the bus. Is that the biggest villain

of our generation right there? Is that the biggest villain? Is it you? It is me. You found me out, guys. Holy shit, I wish I never got on the bus. It breaks my heart to find this out too. I looked up to you so much.

Come on. Michigan, man. Honestly, how does it work? You're not telling me how it works. You're just saying that it's just working. All I'm saying is follow the money. Follow the money and rest. I follow my homes.

I follow Kelsey. I follow Chris Jones. I follow Andy Reid. I follow Isaiah Pacheco. Great players. I can keep going on and on and on. Yeah, great players. They are great players.

Cadarius Tony. Yeah. Well, did you notice he disappeared in January? Yeah. Yeah, you went to the bench. What did you do? Went to the bench. What did I do?

I told him to do it. You called. Yeah. He said, hey, we got to get these boys the dub. Yeah. My kids want to see Taylor Swift. I mean, there's tickets. Let's go.

There it is. Get out of here. It's so insane. That's crazy. So the Chiefs aren't, you know, the Chiefs won the Super Bowl this year? I think they, if they do, it's because Mahomes is pissed.

the Raiders are using like Kermit, you know, dolls to piss him off or whatever. Or if I shouldn't say the Raiders did it, a fan brought it and wound up in the hand of a rookie, which is unfortunate for the Raiders. He got destroyed in their team. So I'm sure it did. But, you know, yeah, if they do it,

you could make a case they're faster. They're a faster team this year. You know, John Ross, who's record, Xavier worthy broke. Xavier's their teammates now. You know, Hollywood Brown that, you know, they lost Legerius Sneed,

but we'll see how they can make up for that. Yeah, they're an outstanding team with the best player in the NFL right now. Do you think Mahomes surpasses Tom Brady as the go eventually? That's a great question. He's on, he is, he's on a path. He's 100% on a path. He's ahead of Brady at this age

in terms of what he's done. Correct. Correct. So he's on, like, And good thing for Brady that he beat Mahomes in that one point. He got plus one. Mahomes got minus one. If that reversed, he'd be even closer right now. But if it wasn't for D4 jumping off sides, maybe Brady doesn't beat him.

Look at that. Look at you going deep. But that's information that can actually lead to somebody losing, not who's dating who. I mean, that's insane. They make a holding call in the Philadelphia. There are a Chiefs game in the Super Bowl two years ago. So let me ask you a question. Don't go too deep.

Let me ask you listen. The offensive offside call against the chiefs that wiped out the go-ahead touchdown against the bills. Did they not get the Taylor Swift memo? Because she was there. What happened after that? Did they not get the memo on Christmas Day? On Christmas Day when the Raiders went into Arrowhead and beat him? Didn't get the memo?

Because you knew, no, I'm sorry. You knew that it was just a setup to make it look like it's not a T-Swift conspiracy that the NFL's put together. So you know the answers. So then you knew that they would just rip off. They would rip off consecutive wins six in a row and win it all. And you knew, and you knew, you knew that Kyle Shanahan would take the ball to start the Super Bowl as well over time. You knew that. Or is that part of the conspiracy?

I think she hands in on it. Let's hear you explain the 2009 Big 12 championship. So which one? 2009 Big 12 championship, Texas, Nebraska, the one second being put back on the clock. Dude, I don't even know what you're talking about. Where are we going? How did that come about? It's will integrating Nebraska.

You're asking about you. I need ice because I need ice for the whiplash. We can talk about Nebraska. I have a question for you. Sure. You have a ball club that a couple years ago went three and nine. Last year they went five and seven. They have not made a bowl game since 2015.

As a fan base of that school. Do you believe that if they go six and six and make a bowl game since the first time in almost a decade? Yes. They should be proud of that because they're getting a monkey off their back? Well, I mean, it would be great for them. to make a bowl game. You're talking about just any school. Let's just say,

no, no, no, no, we're just saying they go six and six this year. You were just saying, speak for you. They go six and six this year.

Yeah. And they make a bowl game for the first time at nine years. That's great for them. That's great. Sure. And the fan base should be happy about that. I don't know,

because they're now in a very deeper end of the pool. I think I heard Matt Rule talk about how it's the best conference, right? Well, it is the best conference. Right. Close to the NFL. Yeah. And by the way,

has the best competition. Isn't it great to what, now that Paul Feinbaum doesn't have Harbaugh to kick around anymore, he's spreading it out on Ryan Day, his coach. He's just kicking everybody in the balls. But Paul Feinbaum didn't mention Michigan when he was saying you're not with the Penn States, the Ohio states, and the Georgia's.

Listen, I totally understand why everybody would think that we're beatable right now because Jim's gone and so are a whole bunch of NFL players. Yeah, but Sharma is the man. As we did. You would assume that a national championship team holds the line and holds a standard the same way a team like Alabama does year in and year out. Well, we'll see how Alabama does now without Nick, right?

Right. But I'm saying the expectations should still be a national championship. Bottom line is this, bottom line is this college football has changed forever. And we don't know how it's changed yet because we haven't seen it yet. But perfect example is Michigan, Ohio State plays this year, right? We've got all the house money, we being us, Michigan, right? All the house money. Three wins in a row against Ohio State and a national championship, all of that business, right?

It's all great. We're the best. Of course. And we're going into the horseshoe. They spent 20 million to keep players. We'll just say the most in IL money of any other team in college football. Correct. And, you know, and Ryan Day can go on, you know,

wherever he wants to go on and talk about how the players are coming back for the scarlet and the gray and not the green, right? And they're coming back for the maze and blue to try and beat them, not the green. Fine. Let's just give him that. Mark Harris Jr., let's give him that. Right. All the house money, all the pressure.

It doesn't matter if he's undefeated right up until that game. It's all the pressure on them to beat a Michigan team that's supposedly less than coming into their building. But even with all of that, even with all of that, even if Michigan shocks Ohio State, Ohio State will make the college football playoffs, right? Because there's now 12 of them.

And as a matter of fact, the way it's now done in the Big Ten, we're racing all of the conferences, it's now the top two teams in the conference play each other, period, one big huge mosh pit, that Oregon is now going to be throwing their hat in the ring and they're very, very stout,

if not the best team potentially, in the Big Ten. You can say that. Long story short, though, Michigan could potentially play Ohio State the next week in the Big Ten championship game for the first time, because now it's one huge mosh bit. And we might even see them play a third time if they match up in a 12-team national championship bracket. It's totally changed. So we don't know how things are going to work out in college football anymore, which means six and six doesn't cut it because great, you're making a bowl game, but bowl games are now even less important than they've ever been before. And it's tough to say that because everyone loves the most wonderful time of the year and all that business.

But six and six ain't cutting it. You need to get to at least the top 12. But at least for you, there's 12 now. You got a shot. Absolutely. Like maybe a dumb and dumber chance, but you got a shot, you know? You're saying there's a chance. I'm saying there's a chance is what I'm saying.

The line is seven and a half for Nebraska's win total. When you say line, what are you talking about? The line. Gambling. Gambling. Okay. Sports betty. Yeah.

seven and a half. You're taking the over or the under with Nebraska this year? Pull up a Nebraska schedule this year because Richard's an NFL guy. Yeah, that's right. They need to see the schedule. You need to see a schedule. Do you have as tough as schedule as Michigan where you've got to play Texas at home and USC? No.

You got to play those guys. What are the chances you go to that game? You got to go to that game. I can't. You got to, man. Which one? Texas? Yeah.

September 7th. What are you doing? Getting ready for week one game day morning, sir? You don't go do that. Oh, you got to do that. Oh, you got prime, huh? Yeah. Okay.

Six and a half point favorites. Northern Iowa or as Kurt Warner refers to his alma mater the northern Iowa Illinois at Purdue that'll be a tough one for you home for rock

good Lord over under 7 and a better be over 7 I agree you better be oh you're at USC you're going to come out for that game LA

probably not our second child is the due days November 14th got it so that's a no hard no at Iowa that'll be a tough one. Yeah, you should, you should, I'll give you eight.

You should. You should with Mahomes at quarterback and Matt Rule talking a big game, brother. A lot of the defense returning. My other point. I'm a big fan. I like Matt Rule a lot. I thought it was a little wild. He starts talking about this is the NFL type stuff, but.

My other point, one last thing about college football in the Michigan, Ohio State rivalry, is that the loser of that game most likely won't be eliminated anymore because there's 12 teams that make the playoffs, which means the last time that that was essentially an elimination game ever. Michigan not only won that, but won the two such games before that as well. The last three of those is my point. Just one last opportunity to come on this bus and shit on Ohio State. It's really my pleasure to fly all the way out here just to do that. A lot of insurance policies, too, for us, given the uncertainty. speakable happens with them spending $21 million in N IL money.

Oh, that's why it's all on them. They just bought, they bought it. That's why it's all on them. Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth. I'm so happy when I just, again,

I just did the jacket dinner in Canton and, and they, they, they, um, the fans there, many of them, Buckeye fans,

they heckle me when I step up to the microphone and for years. It was difficult to retort. I was retortless. I would even go on the air. I would go up to that podium and say, I have no answer. You're right. I can't say anything back to you. The last three years, it's been awesome.

It's been poor. Oh, God. This past year, it was great. By the way, I go to that jacket dinner in peace. You know, I come in peace. But, you know, I step up and I hear O-Hs and I'm like, okay, now we've got to have something. So I always have something in my back pocket to say. So this one this year is like, I'm glad at least for you, Dwight Frini is here. So at least someone associated with a horseshoe can tell you what it's.

like to win a big game. That went over like the proverbial wet fart in church. It was great, you know, and it just gets everything going. And so I could sense that maybe I should pull back a little bit that that was really aggressive. So I stopped and I started on again. So my favorite ones are just to pop them out when they don't expect it. Like a half an hour later, an award was given to a gentleman from Mexico for his lifelong

accomplishments as a broadcaster in Spanish speech. speaking television for the NFL. And he finished his speech in Spanish. And so I turn a Hall of Fame official to my right. I'm like, do you mind if I do one more Ohio State dig? And he just looks and he goes, go ahead. Like, it's okay. So I got the green light.

So the guy finishes in Spanish and I step up there and I'm like, round of applause. You know, congratulations to him. And I'm like, listen, you know, my Spanish is a little rusty, but for everybody here in the audience, I'll translate to you what he said. And I've written it down here and I'm like, Michigan is beaten Ohio State the last three November's. I'm so proud of myself for that one, man. Like, they didn't see that one coming.

Like, that one was just like... How was the room? Yeah, it's like a left-hander who hides the ball as it takes it out of his mitt. Like, you don't see it coming. Like, you can't see the entire wind up. Yeah. That's my favorite ones. Oh, God, it's the greatest.

It's beautiful to see your passion. Right now, I am writing so many checks with my mouth, and it doesn't matter anymore. It doesn't. Like I said, those winner, like winter-go, home Ohio State games, the only ones that we'll ever see again are in the college football playoffs. Now that game will be intense if that day comes and I think it will. We'll see that. You think so? Why wouldn't we? There's, yeah. Tough schedule this year. I'm excited. I think we're

going to pull it off. But September 7th is really what we find out. No, Texas will be a tough one. Obviously, USC will be a tough one. Oregon. Michigan plays Oregon too. I believe they do. I don't think so. No, you guys do. I don't, I don't take a look. Let's take a peeksy. I don't, I didn't, Yeah, do we play Oregon as well this year? Probably do, because they always give Michigan the toughest schedule possible. Yeah, so. Can we do this?

Do this favor? I know we're pushing two hours or whatever. Are we really? Yeah. It's been a pleasure. Have you been having fun? Do me this favor one last time. Michigan schedule versus Ohio State schedule.

It's just not, you can't even compare them. Yeah. Pull them. And, you know, and I say this all the time because Michigan always has to play the toughest schedule, is where the biggest draw. I appreciate how much you hate Ohio State. Oh, my goodness gracious.

You have no earthly idea. And it was the urban years were tough. They were really tough for us to get through. And now it's been great the last three years. So this is Michigan's schedule, right? We have that. There it is. Fresno State and then home for Texas,

home for Arkansas State, home for USC. So we do start the first five at home. That's a nice benefit. But two of them are against Texas and USC. Then they're at Washington. Come on, man. And then they're home for Oregon. And, of course, we always play Michigan State.

That's the way it's always going to go. And then we always play Ohio State. Come on. All right. Illinois is not a walk in the park either. At Illinois, too. Right. Champagne.

All right. So now, let's look at the Ohio State schedule. When you tell me if this is comparable in any way, shape, or form. Okay. Here's the Ohio State schedule. Home for Akron, home for Western Michigan, home for Marshall. All right. Okay, that's the gauntlet right there to start.

You see where the gaunt. They go at Michigan State too. Home for Iowa, they have to go to Oregon. Now, that's their first huge test, unless you want to include a home date with Nebraska as a test. They've got to go to Penn State. We'll be six and O at that point, so they can be a test. Good enough. Good enough.

They have to go to Penn State, which ain't easy, we know. And then. Nothing to tell the boys. And then they finish three out of their last four at home. Purdue. Hey, Purdue sneaks Ohio State every now. The game against Northwestern. by the way, is in Wrigley Field.

Okay, that'll be cool. The Ivy, right? But at any rate, and then there's that game against Michigan. Which is the tougher schedule, please? You guys have the tougher schedule, but it's not like that's a walk in the park. Nope. No, it's a walk in a pretty small park.

Come on. It's a pretty average schedule. Thank you for at least admitting that. That's big. That's big. At any rate. At any rate. There you have it.

It's nice. to see your pride in Michigan. And I feel like a lot of people in my generation of going to Michigan, people lost that because we were not very good. But when you're growing up going to Michigan in the 60s and 70s, and be able to have a success you did and to carry that for as long as you had, it was beautiful. You know, those were rough years, too, to be on campus.

Yeah. Were they, no, they weren't. What, in 60s and 70s? Well, whenever you were actually there. Yeah. I was there in the late 80s. You know what I mean. Which is for you, like practically the 60s and 70s.

It would be the same thing. You can bundle up 60-70s days all in a ball. That's all the same to me. My staying power is just incomparable, though. You can't, I'm good. Don't worry about it. I might be even old to you, but I'm good. Should we talk about?

What are a few keys to your longevity? Oh, my gosh. Well, you know what keeps me alive? Yeah. Taylor Swift controversies. Oh, God, they're just great. I can't get enough of those. They're beautiful.

Mm-hmm. No, but there are like your, I won't say one of the few, but also like you've been somebody who's adapted as the world of TV and social media and everything else too. Like when you look back at some of the things that have kept you in the game at this high of a level, I mean, is impressive because we can joke about all the older generations, the old head you talk to in your fan base, yada, yada, yada, but I feel like there are certain things you've got to have to kind of keep your stay in this food chain the way you have for the last two decades. I don't know. That's a good question. I just go to work and be myself. you know, every day, every day with a great group of folks who was stuck with me on my show through, you know, different corporations, birthing it, picking it up, being partners, COVID, my God. And the last five years, I've owned the show.

And so, you know, not only are we colleagues and friends, but, you know, I'm eventually somebody where the buck stops. And every day we, we. just figure out what are we going to talk about and thankfully people dig it you know and i honestly i don't think about how i'm going to be young today or let's talk to the right to the to the kids i'm just myself and i'm just thankful that it that i still have um people are interested in what i have to say be honest with has ESPN ever approached you to acquire your show um we have had conversations about it in the past but it just never happened for various reasons

I like I said I have no quarrel with them That had to feel pretty good though Well I mean it part of me feels like you know That's my DNA is it started with the ESPN And um And they're they're They're part of my career And obviously they're as big as ever

You know and I I love so many people who are there From Stephen A and Pat You know I saw Pat at the Combine and I have nothing but love for everyone there. So they're always going to be in my thoughts all the time. But it's never happened. It just hasn't happened yet.

Not yet. If not yet, I did say yet. But I don't know. I don't know. Who knows what the life. Do we want to do Tier Talk? Absolutely. I love the Tier Talk that Shrem had set up for us.

Kids, Team Sport Movies. Okay. We'll be our topic. Are you familiar with Tier Talk? Go for it. What is it? Your top three, tier one, tier two, tier three. Got it, okay. You can throw an honorable mention if you'd like.

Okay, so it's sort of like a start bench cut type of situation here? You're not like cutting a tier three. Okay, so one, two, three. It doesn't have to be those. It can be any kids team sports movies that you had kind of growing up. Did you guys have sports movies going? Oh, my God. Let me see.

You consider, remember the Titans as a kids team sports movie? I was going to ask that question, too, sure. And karate kid. They are in high school. It is a sport. It isn't a sport. We haven't had a conversation with Ralph Machio on my show. Is the karate kid a sports movie?

We kind of, he kind of said it's kind of like a coming of age type thing, you know, more than a sports movie. So I would go. It doesn't happen down the list of. I know. I mean. well I'm gonna go tier one is like Mike because I was in it um how's that for a flex that's a nice one like Mike is one because I'm I still receive like five cent

residual checks for being in like Mike um so there's that like Mike actually I'm in it with Kenny Maine um and I think that pissed off Stewart that no was that or was that the kid was that Disney's the kid yeah that's the one I was with Stuart Scott and like Mike, I'm credited as Stuart Scott and Stuart it's credited as me. Like we purposely did that.

Love that. So, yeah, so I'll go, I'll go that. Space Jam 1 is a tier 2. That's great. And, um, hardball, really? This is some really, oh, bad news bears is a pretty great one.

Yeah, I'll go from my era when they're, where there were sports movies. I'll go bad news bears is three for right there, tier three. You know, I showed it to my kids the other day, and they were like, totally, they're looking at me like, dad, like, you know, you're showing it like the manager is drinking and driving, you know, like, what's up with that?

Like, they were totally blown away. And then when Tanner dropped the N-word, they're like, really, you're showing us this movie? Like, what the hell is the matter with you? And I'm like, well, I'm like, listen, the 70s were a different time. So yeah, those are my three. You miss the 70s?

Yeah, because I was a kid in him. Yeah. Taylor, what's your one word? Who are you texting? I'm making my lesson. Okay. Oh, so you prepped for this? I'm prepping.

Actually, during the show. Great. My one word is going to be seasoned. Authentic. Gentlemen? Reverse Flex

Calvin Cambridge Veteran Big dog Dog He did Finally If If

If we're closing Can I ask a question To close After we do our tear talk Okay go for you Yeah Do you want to go first I'm going to go

I don't know He really just Kind of ruin the vibe With that What? How do I ruin the vibe I thought we were closing Closing

I'm sorry Your flight's out for another three hours Buckle up Okay I'll go ahead and go Okay I'm gonna go Honorable Mention

Cool Runnings My Tier 3 John Candy was in that Is going to be Airbud Okay I followed that dog Pretty close

Your dog guy Okay Yeah throughout that dynasty Why not Of a film Dynasty Dynasty I forgot one.

I can't do it. Taylor, you're up. Okay. Okay. This is actually a very difficult one, but I'm going to have to go off just my childhood on this because I think there's a lot of movies up here that I didn't appreciate until I was older.

Cool running as being one of them. But for my childhood, I'm going to give an honorable mention to the Mighty Ducks. Gordon Bombay, the boys, just sacrificing so much, bringing a group of misfits together to take on championship after championship. Growing old together is truly beautiful. Another one that we can all get behind is my tier three, which is San Lot.

Yeah, that's a good one. San Lot. Just all the characters, incredible. The young lad, I can't believe I'm forgetting his name right now. Fakes drowning. Gets the girl to give him a squint. Squintz. You ever seen the movie?

A phenomenal movie. Phenomenal. My tier two and my next two are going to be Disney Channel original movies. Brink. Pupp and Suds is a role. roller skating movie. There's a part where guy falls into a hay bell.

He looks for help up and then pulls the guy down and keeps going. It ends up still taking the trophy. It's a beautiful movie. My number one, my tier one is going to go to, my first passion is a

motocross. And it's going to go to the Disney Channel original movie of motocrossed. About two kids. Deep cut. Brothers, sister, the brother and the dad are big time.

They have a track in their backyard. Brother ends up getting hurt. Yeah. Sister cuts her hair. and pretends to be him and gets into this little league and ends up taking over and beautiful movie. Never heard of it, never seen it. Beautiful film.

And nobody was able to catch on to who that was either during the movie. There you go. Yeah. This movie was before it's time. Great tear talk. Disney. That's my one word.

Oh, okay. To describe the tier talk. Is that what? Yeah, you use one word to describe his tear talk. To describe your tear talk? Yeah. weird it's the way you said it to with your face

I didn't like it sure yeah when you said like that I didn't like that yeah yeah unique extreme sports icebox radical

Hoosiers okay that's not a bad one Hoosiers that should have been number one on my list I don't know that was included I've never seen it Are you shitting me? No, they're older.

You've never seen Hoosiers? You've never seen Hoosiers? Pull it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've never seen Hoosiers. No. Dude. Was Jay Seinfeld in it?

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I know, I know it'd be weird for you because it's in standard definition. Dude, it's Gene Hackman. It's a story of, of, of David Beaton Goliath. My God. It's about Miracle and nice. It's, it is just like it.

It is a great movie. You have to see it. Yeah. It's my number one sports movie. I feel a little back into a corner right now. It's my number one sports movie. Wow. You didn't say that.

Yeah, and it's done by the same people who did Rudy, if that means anything to you. I hate Rudy because I hate Notre Dame. Like I watch Rudy hoping he like pops a quad. You know what I mean? I've also never seen Rudy. I've never seen Rudy. That's all right.

That one's okay. It is a great sport. But you enjoy seeing Rudy fail in that way. Oh my God, it would be great. And I was told by David Ansbaugh, the director of Rudy that Rudy has heard me say this before and wants to fight me over it. Really? Yeah.

Nice. Would you? Yes. Huh? Would you fight him? Absolutely. And I'm a lover. Not a fighter.

Absolutely. All right. So I've got a question for you guys. Will, are you going to finish your talk? I'll go quickly so you can get this question. I'm sorry. So since I did, I forget and I am so disappointed that I forgot the sand lot, but the sandlot is in there as my, as my tier three.

My tier two is going to be space jam. I think space jam, when little MJ's there at the free throw line at nighttime to start the movie, it's like you start to dream as a kid. Space Jam is my tier two and my tier one is the little giants. I fact that is the movie I watched the most in that one time coming into fruition against the Dallas Cowboys. I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan growing up, so parts of it kind of sucks seeing them lose, but I loved watching the little giants pull out the win at the end. but Little Giants is my tier one. All right. Do you have to go a word for that?

Tinfoil. Are you just projecting? Yeah. Yeah, I am just projecting. I think it's a conspiracy that you chose Little Giants. All the money. No, it's a conspiracy

against actual giants that you would choose Little Giants. So on behalf of all giants, you know, that you don't like them. So I think that's why I went tin for it. Okay. Yeah. Don't ask me to explain how it works.

I just know it's working. You don't have real information. I know that's more than one word. hyphenated. Hyphenated. Oh, is that right? Okay, cool. Rushed.

Bubble wrap. Classics. Annexation of Puerto Rico. Nice. Yes, sir. That's right. Hopeful. Inspiring.

Becky. Solid. Wow. Did you have any questions for us? Yes. Okay. This is my final question for you guys. Because we have one more for you.

Well, okay. When does Jack get his Silverado? That's a great question. Honestly, the one situation, the one of the many angry responses I've gotten from your fan base with each photograph that Jack posted, the most common response, was that I'm disrespecting Jack

by not coming on the bus. That on behalf of Jack, guys helping guys or guy who works hard, not getting rewarded because I'm too elitist or highfalutin to actually be on this program. That is the number one most common angry response to my last,

of appearing on this program is that I'm I'm denying jack his Chevy Silverado for posting every day and so now I'm asking how do how do we how do we make this happen can we hold for just one second oh look something up sure please I like what the title of his car like is that what you're looking up I think the stipulations where he can't miss a day oh no Chevy Silverado what are you saying are you saying he missed a day There are rumors swirling that there are multiple days that are at question. Are you saying that I've finally here, I made it to the bus. We have put together two hours of high quality video and audio entertainment, I believe.

Yeah. And you know that butterfly you're talking about? I have it right now. We have reached the end of the line. Yeah. And you're saying he doesn't get the Chevy Silver Roll. It's not what we're saying right now. What are you saying?

I don't think I said that at all. Okay. So what are you saying? I think that there are days in question. Jack? That we have to verify. Don't listen to the hearsay. This is just a witch hunt right now.

It's a witch hunt. Conspiracy. Here's what I'll say. Yeah, yeah. As of right now, Jack McPherson, Chevy Soverado is in review. In review. In review. Now, I will say this.

Like we're under the hood here? We're under the hood. Jack, do you have the microphone in your hand? I do. Did you ever miss one day? 772 today. I want you to really? 772.

Don't do this brain work. No, no, no, I'm truly trying to cover every basis. Because I'm not just thinking about this conversation right here. I know the internet wants you to have

your Chevy Cervado and I know the deal. The world wants it. The world. Hold on you don't. No, no, I do.

Because the internet will hear this. I do. But just listen to what I'm saying. All right. We know that you want the Chevity. Rividing. Rich wants you to have it. Will and I want you to have it.

Do you? The rules of engagement were. It has to be every single day until Rich Eisen comes on the bus. Day 772. Now, we will go into, we will now go into review to check every 772 days.

If you've missed one, it's an audit. Then you are willing to say, y'all really went full corporate here. If you're willing to miss one, if you missed one, are you willing to say you do not deserve it? We drew up a contract.

If you missed one, are you saying you don't deserve a Chevy Severado? If you missed one. I don't. I asked you a question. I asked you a question. I'm saying if the rules, if the rules were every single day for 770 days.

I just want you to tell you that. You said no immediately. You said no. Did you want to ask you if you missed a day? I'm asking you if you missed one day. Do you deserve the Chevy Silverado? Yeah. What if you missed two?

I mean, there's 772 days. Jack, how many days did you miss? Did you miss it? Zero. Okay. He said to miss zero day.

brainworm, by the way, if I've left any lasting impact here, the fact that that brain worm is now officially part of the Busson lexicon as a shorthand for conspiracy theory, I'd be very happy. Number one. Number two, I'm here for you, Jack. Literally, not just here for me and for the Busson franchise. I'm here for you. Thank you. Okay, so. Listen, I've appreciated the deep cuts and I appreciated the easy cuts. I've appreciated your hard. work and dedication. You know, the rule was for you to not miss a day. I think there should be a grace period. Personally, I think there should be a little wiggle room. Okay, how many days? Rich would like to tell you he's going to buy you the Chevy. Hell no.

Yeah, Ray. Oh, boy, Rich. That is incredible. That was a great, that's a great speech to Jeff. That was amazing. You're the man. You're the man. You're the man.

I'm showing up. You are the man. You're here for him. My contributions to this cause have been two things. One, having such a vast array of photos from which to choose to allow you to do what you've done. Two, and then showing up. That's it. After that, you're on your own. But I'm here for you. And I think you should get a little bit of wiggle room, but you're saying that there's no wiggle room. You've done it for 772 straight days. 771. Today's 777. Okay. And that's the whole thing is when this gets posted later on, right?

Yeah, yeah. We haven't figured it out. Does he now post every single day? Because I I'm assuming, you know. I think he continues a post until we decide we're going to release this. Correct. Yes. That's what you got to do. But obviously, if he misses a day in this period, it's like, it's. That would be.

Now, now, now, to use the phrase from the good fellows, I got to turn my back on you at that point in time. If you miss anything between now and then, seriously. So we will continue. Yes, we come. Until we reveal. But I really want to iron this out because I want to do, I want to do what's right. And I want to do what the people deserve. if you were to miss a couple days

and how many day grace period would you say Jack should have? Let's just say it's got to be single digits. No, no, no, no, very low single digits. Okay, yeah, yeah. Very low single digits. I thought you were going to say like 20.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. So 771 days is what, we're up, you know, more than two years. Do we give them two days a year? So four total? Four total? I mean, people get five days of days. working days of vacation a year or or two or 10 days of vacation a year.

So I'm cutting that. I'm cutting that by four fifths. I'm giving him one fifth of vacation days that people are. He's a good vacation. He's a good man too. He deserves a Chevy. So I'm saying I'm any more than four than then then you got a case. But, but the rules were he doesn't miss a day.

That's where the rules. So the question is really how, you know, magnificent or magnanimous of bosses are you guys? Really. It really comes down to your... What kind of culture... Magnanimous. What kind of culture would we be in stealing

if we let the small things go? Because Michigan didn't win a national change. That's true. I know. You got to button up the little things. The little things. The details. The little things are big things.

The championship teams are all about details. Didn't Connor Stallions get a ring? Magnanimous. Oh, stop it. Now, Jack, that's not... I'm digger. Now you're sucking up and you're pissing me off. Generous or forgiving is magnanimous.

That's what it means. Generous or forgiving, especially towards a rival or less powerful person. I think that's a perfect use. Jack, whether social media, I think he has just as much power. Okay. All right. Listen.

So we'll agree on four days. Sure. You feel good about four days? I would like three. You'd like three? Simple strike system. Three strikes and you're out. Interesting.

Interesting. Oh, Jack. The internet will have things. I think Jack's beginning to go through his head and thinking, might have missed more than three right now. Then it's not even. Yeah, it's not a big deal. If you've not missed one day, then there should be no.

That's fine. The thing of the end of the day, I know that you're, yeah, there should be a time limit on said audit. But what I mean a time limit on, like there's a time limit on how long they can actually review your work? That's what my boys in that is. I think that's fair. That's fair. Oh, yeah, you can't give them the truck and then take it back because after further review, you know what I mean? Like, we do the truck.

Okay. We have, right. And to be in to let you know, we do have our eyes on a truck. Yeah, we do. Yeah. Okay. It's nice. You're going to look it.

And that means it. We found it on cars.com. It's used, but it works. This is amazing. This is a story that just keeps giving. Can we just real quick iron this out? Three days. Yes.

You've said zero. I thought it wasn't the initial thing two per year and it's been over two and a half. I mean, I'm fine with three. I think we'll ask for three. Will asked for three. I said four. Yeah. And the way it works,

Will has a final say. Three strikes and you're out. It is more. It is right. Okay. And you give us, give us, we'll go from you can have zero to we'll allow three.

And that's a big jump. Yeah. All right. And you're saying you did not miss one day. And how long, how long do you guys have to review the way? How long does the audit take? Are you allowed for the audit?

Well, I think five to ten business days. Oh, I think. Five to ten business. What I was going to say is, by the time this episode comes out, I think during that intro,

we will understand what the answer is. Okay. Okay. We are. We're cut out for us. I like it. You do. You do.

Digital footprints and fingerprints are a bitch, man. You better, you better hope you better. You better be buttoned up, Jack. Yeah. Because I'll tell you, like, I know I keep making pop culture references that are too old for you, but I'll do it anyway. It's anywhere. Have you seen the shining?

Anybody seen the shiny? Yeah. You've seen the shining. Okay. So Scatman Cruthers, he plays the, you know, the guy who runs the Overlook hotel, you know, except during. the season, right? And he's shining with the boy from Florida. And he realizes the boy's in trouble, okay, because his dad's going insane, the caretaker, right? So he goes from Florida, on a plane

all the way to Colorado, gets in a snow cat to go all the way up the mountain, gets in the hotel, finally there to save the boy. And as soon as he gets, there, spoiler alert, gets an axe in the chest. That would be you in this equation. If we get all the way to this point, you go all the way to this point just to get an axe in the chest would be a horror show of the first variety and I hope and pray

that the audit turns up what if it's three what if it's three three is like Tygo's the runner so he's the runner he's the runner okay so three is the max

yeah so it's not three in your out it's really four in you're out right let's make sure yeah I guess we can have a push here a push Push is good for him. The lines at three and a half. Okay. I root for the under, man.

I don't want you to be Scatman Brothers in the Shining, dude. And some would see it as an axe to the chess moment. I see it as more for the love of the game, you know. The end of the day, we, this. Got to respect that about you. He's about, there, technically there is no eye in bussin, man. You're a team player, Jack. That's impressive.

I'm impressed because I would want that Silverado. If I don't get it, I would be pissed. I got a forerunner out there. as if 300,000 miles on it. As if 767 of the 771 days is not good enough. I know. I understand what the rules are. It's hard too because he's been doing this for a lot longer

than we expected because somebody's schedule. And it's been hard. I thought this was going to be like a 100 day deal. I really did. Because Will and I sat here on the bus when we whispered back and forth when Jack was saying we're Sherman. I was like, buy my shabby so rod. Yeah, he did say no.

And I pushed for that. Okay. And now to get to this point. And if we, what do we stand on if it's for? And it's like, damn, Jack, we can't. I sat here and gave him a chance to say if he's missed one. Because I know if he missed one, he knows not head of his right now. He's aware.

I got to be honest with you. I smell panic, Jack. Because it's right. Because he says, no, so strongly. And then it's like, okay, well, if you missed any, then you don't get it. He was so resolute. He was resolute. And then I see a little moonwalking and I'm beginning to get a little nervous.

I mean, there's a day. I'm nervous. I live with you every day, rich. Every day. I know that. So this is a, this is a conversation. I've been preparing for for 7771 days. So if I am, you know, definitive, definitive about my answer,

it's because I've played this conversation out for 700. You know more about me than most people. 100%. I know. Jack, if you missed a day, I'll give you some grace, but you got to say something right now. I just want this for you so bad. No, we've decided three strikes.

Three strikes. I think you're trying to play into the internet so that you don't catch eat. And it's sad thing. You're trying to play the nice guy. I don't want this to happen. If the internet, no, the realities I do want this to happen. It was me who pushed Will into saying we should make this deal. If the internet gets mad at me,

if the internet gets mad at me for not giving you a Chevy Sobrado because you miss a certain amount of days, the internet needs to be mad at themselves. There's the point of the wrong direction. Oh, and I agree. Yeah. I won't be on the side of that fight. I will take that heat because it's, I'll feel really bad.

I'm like, man, 771 days and he missed, let's say five. This is it. It's like, yeah. We've reached the end of the road, sir. It's almost sad because. I know. Are you going to miss posting? Are you going to do my day to day?

You can still do it if you want to. Yeah, just continue it. You should post pictures of him. The Rich Eisen Show should post one of Jack until he comes on. Y'all might run out pretty quickly. One day. You post a lot. Yeah, just send me selfies.

No question. As long as they're appropriate, I'll post him. Man. Yeah, I guess. I will go through the audit process. I'm glad we have established the guard rails here. And we're ready to roll. Oh, my word.

Okay, brother. I could see it. He's shown me what you would get. And I just saw your face. Yeah. Yeah. Don't show. Don't know. Yeah. I won't. I'm just hoping for your sake that it comes up at three in three and out. And I hope that you have enough money for your own paint job. Rich. Maybe give up too much. Not really. You don't need money for a new page. I think is beautiful. Okay. Okay. Sounds good. Yeah.

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You pick one Mitch is Who would you tweet a picture of 770 two straight days if it guaranteed they'd be a guest on your show. Okay, Taylor Swift, because I'm part of the conspiracy and the fact that I would

keep, I would keep tweeting out photographs of her would cover the tracks that I could get her on the show anytime because I have created a controversy that has not only, not only if found, called into question her popularity, but even more so the Chief's ability

to actually win football games. How does that sound? I love that. It's a great answer. You know what I mean? I would do Taylor Swift, you know. It's a great answer. Who's been the most starstruck that you've had on your show?

For me? Yeah. Starstruck. Huh. You've had a lot of awesome. I literally saw like Matt Damon on the other. Man. No, the one for real for me most recently is Seinfeld.

And again, I know that where I know you're like, who's that? But for real guy. The movie guy. Not him. Yeah, people, but he came on. He came on. and it was, you know, I'd been wanting to have him for for some time and he was in person in studio and we recorded it after a show.

So we had a bunch of time with him, had no idea that he was going to start by being somewhat critical of the set that I have there and how low he is to the ground and how high I'm sitting in a chair and how weird it is. and how spatially it's something that I should rectify and he got up out of the chair and stood over me just to say, how does this make you feel? Oh. And I just remember sitting in my chair and looking up

and just seeing Jerry Seinfeld looking down at me and it was just like, wow, what am I going to do with this moment? You know what I mean? Like it's kind of out of body that A, he was there and B, he's staring down at me. then we just had a great conversation that was awesome from there on out for sure so beautiful that's my answer to that question

but Taylor Swift for sure okay who's your how popular I'd be man I don't know Rich Eisen I mean it's his I mean that's yeah who would I Adam Sandler

that's a good one you can get him no I've never like there's some people you feel like you're one connect away he hasn't been somebody yet okay Sam Rill we had him on his episode is either already out or coming out. He was talking about him hanging out of Adam Sandler

and it feels like he's everything I've thought he is. He's the best. I met him at the World Series in the late 90s when I was covering the Yankees and Braves, I think it was, or Yankees and Padres for ESPN Radio and had walked around with him. The stadium, stopped for everybody who stopped. Everybody stopped them.

And this was a time before there were cameras on cell phones. So people were like popping out like real cameras and shit. And he stopped for every single one of them, even got on the phone to leave a message for somebody and recorded an outgoing message for somebody. Said yes to everybody. That's awesome. Couldn't have been nicer.

That's awesome. When they were asking like, I think middle school or high school, like who would somebody dead or alive you'd like to have lunch with? A lot of the times my answer would be Adam Sandler. I just think he's a good dude. Like he's also a great twist of question. Yes. Yeah, he seems like the man.

Mine would be Vince Vaughn. We got a chance to meet him at Notre Dame versus Ohio State last year. Yeah, yeah. Everything is advertised. Yeah, yeah. He's great. Talked about doing a flea flicker on the 10-yard line. And we were just thought, well, thank God you're not the O.C.

Yeah. But he was awesome. We were in agreement that they should have took the three. Yeah. First or second drive. And he has this way of making you feel like, just like you're a part of his little crew because we ended up meeting him.

And then we're on the sideline. We're like three rows back. He's like towards the front. And during the first quarter, he looked back at both of us. Well, hey, come up here. And we just started talking ball sitting there. He's probably taller than you think too, right? Yeah.

You're probably eye to eye with him. Because wedding crashes is like, I feel so small in your arms. I'll tall you. Six, five, but I feel like I'm five feet. And that's like, oh, I guess he is a tall boy, huh? His character in Swingers is one of the best ever. I've only seen the movie once. Are you shit?

It's a little too. It's a little too old for me. Come on. I've only seen it once. I know. And I want to have that with you so bad. You got to see it. You've never seen it.

I haven't either. I've heard him talk about it. You got to see it. But the baby, your money baby, the whole thing, it's just great. It's just like the best. Pure, like raw. Yeah. Vince Vaughn.

And then, you know, John Favro in the scene where he's not talked about enough. Well, well, you know, he's now as huge director as there is anywhere. Right. And so, but Vince Vaughn and John Favro's character in that movie where he leaves a message for a girl he had just met in the bar is like, you watch it like a horror movie where your hands you watch it through your fingers it is truly, we've all been there

as guys and it's more I'm assuming. But yeah, that's a, it's a you guys have a lot of holes in your film. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, but also you got some time on us. I do have some time on it. Yeah, and you've seen this is like... That scene right there, holy shit.

You have to watch swingers. Dude, you got to see it. It is good. Yeah, wedding crashes is more, you know, contemporary. I just then. Yeah. Will Ferrell would be cool. He's in Rudy as well. Vince Strong's in Rudy as well.

He was like a bully, right? Was he like a bully in that movie? I don't think so. Like I said, I haven't seen it. Will Ferrell would be cool too. Will Ferrell would be outstanding. Yeah. Just all those guys.

Yeah, he came on my show once. And our crew came back. You know, I like going into the back, into the green room whenever a guest comes by to say hello. Always like doing that. Because, you know, my show is live. so it keeps going and going and going. So I always like going back there to say hello. A couple times when I've been on talk shows,

I've always appreciated when the host comes back and says hello. Just always makes me feel at home and so I like doing that whenever I can. So, you know, my team knows that. Will Farrell came by and they stopped me from going back. See, Will doesn't want you to go back there. I'm like, why? Like, he showed up in costume. And he showed up.

in costume, because it was the day before Halloween, he dressed as his Halloween costume for that year, which was Jesus Christ. He dressed his full costume with a beard and a Dodger hat on and sandals with his initials on a W and F. Because his kids chose the costume. And this right here, he shows out that the costume

says one side, size fits most on it. And that was one of the funniest moments because he couldn't breathe at one point through the, through the, the beard. He sort of, he sort of got, there it is, one size fits most. So, but I remember all this stuff and the fact that he shows up in costume is just like, I mean, that's awesome. It's an honor. Yeah, it's an honor. I'm honored by that. Yeah. And like, so it's one of those things where you prepare, like, I'm going to ask him this, I'm going to ask him that. And he comes out dressed like that and you just take it. Yeah. Throw it out the window.

Kind of like our potential questions for today's part. There was only one that we kind of just went to as a joke. Right. There you go. Great episode. You did not disappoint. Thanks, brother. 772 days.

You feel like there'd be a lot of pressure coming on this bus. You handle it so gracefully. You're amazing. I'm built for the bus. You really are. Whether it runs or it doesn't. Dude, get a motor and this thing goes around the country. Do you know how many fans would think?

You pull this and you pull this bus into college campuses? Holy shit. You'd be beaten. Like, you'd have like college games at Todd Cros. We towed to you. We towed it to. some college campuses. Okay.

It's not what you thinking? You never told it to, are you serious? Yeah, we did. You do it in advance. Let's let him know. Yeah, we do a bad job. Come on, Portnoy's got it. Portnoy's got it.

He made his, he probably made as much money at the Rose Bowl than it would cost to tug this. Yeah, $100. Yeah, yeah. We would not even attempt that.

I just told them. Let's go. Yeah, but if you're to buy Jack and a silverado and then put an engine and there's a lot of overhead now. Jack, let's go. Let's go. I hope your audit turns out well.

Thank you. Last person I said that too, got arrested by the IRS. Can you say names? No, I'm just kidding. That was a joke. It was a good joke. I appreciate you. It's a joke. Thank you so much. I'm always looking out for you too because I don't want one of your boys behind bars. You don't want that.

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