Bussin' With The Boys - Rob Gronkowski On Mike Vrabel's Patriots, Belichick At UNC & Joining Brady On Buccaneers | Bussin'

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

Recorded: May 19th, 2025 The wait is over! Arguably the greatest tight end in NFL history, Gronk is officially on the bus. In one of the most anticipated episodes of Bussin’ With The Boys, Rob Gronkowski pulls up for a full-send, no-holds-barred sit-down interview with Will Compton and Taylor Lewan—and it’s everything you’d hope for. From his hockey roots and college football days at Arizona to wild NFL draft stories, Super Bowl memories, and of course, partying like only Gronk can—this one is absolutely electric. Things heat up as Gronk gives an unfiltered look at the Patriots dynasty—how intense it really was in New England, what it meant to be “Tom’s guy,” and why he genuinely loved blocking more than receiving. He breaks down life with Aaron Hernandez, what Bill Belichick is like off the field, and the truth about the Brady-Belichick breakup that sent Tom to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and ended with Bill taking over at UNC. But it wouldn’t be a Gronk episode without some wild moments. He nearly got traded to the Lions, has more cameos than any man alive, and somehow never touched his NFL salary after entering the league. Add in some spicy Tier Talk and closing thoughts on life after football—plus a legendary Steve Harvey LEGO head spike—and you’ve got one for the record books. A certified Tier 1 banger. Gronk, The Boys, and absolute chaos. Make sure to check BWTB.com for our new merch! Big Hugs! Tiny Kisses!   0:00 Intro1:57 NBA Postseason8:02 Hockey Is Back13:17 Gronk Was A Stud At Hockey18:55 Taylor Hates Ralphie22:27 Ending Up At University Of Arizona 27:43 Injury Issues In College 33:52 Falling Asleep In Pre-Draft Interview39:05 Draft Night42:37 Partying vs Playing57:23 How Demanding Was New England?1:03:04 Being Tom's Guy1:08:32 Gronk LOVED Blocking1:12:59 Big Shit Talker?1:14:56 Will Got Gronk1:18:28 Being Around Aaron Hernandez 1:23:21 Bill Belichick Off The Field1:29:04 Tom & Bill Breakup1:31:56 Going To Tampa Bay1:40:04 Gronk Almost Got Traded To Detroit?1:44:33 The King Of Cameos1:48:47 Not Spending NFL Money?1:51:25 Vrabel In New England1:54:22 FanDuel Win Totals2:01:24 RO Spicy Tier Talk2:10:58 Finessing The System During COVID2:12:52 Bus Light: What Would You Do Anything For?2:15:00 How Has Retirement Been?2:17:02 Dudes On Dudes2:22:18 Spiking Steve Harvey's LEGO HeadSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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are we rolling Mitchie yeah we're rolling right now let's give a round of plus Rob Gronkowski finally make it on the bus Yes Been a long time It's been trying for three years time We've been trying for three years

It's a pleasure to finally be on busing with the boys Where the first time we met was at my house You were doing about 2000 of NAD, just sat there and stared at the wall for three hours, just dying for a little bit. The next time, tied end you, we were putting the full court press on them.

And then we almost made it happen. But then I had to go to town for something. I can't remember what it was. We must have not been important. We tried several times. We've tried several times. Like Gronk said, the perfect moment's going to strike

and that perfect moment is now. Right. Do you know why? Because of fandom. Because of fandom. Fandle's brought all the boys together. The number one sports book in all of America. Yeah.

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NFL schedule dropped last week, and Fandals here for all of it. The matchups are set. The Minnesota Timberwolves and the Oklahoma City Thunder in the West, the Indiana Pacers and the New York Knicks in the East. Who are we riding with for the rest of the pro season, boys? I'm going to give me the Knicks.

Give me the Knicks. Give me the Knicks. Look, I'm just, I don't know shit about basketball, but I'm going to ride it with the Knicks because I feel like they've created the most chaos on social media. Yeah. Taking down the Celtics. I was actually just at game.

I think it was game four. It was in New York. I was there actually with Fanduil. I was up in their suite, you know, shooting some content, making some bets on the game. And that atmosphere in New York at Madison Square Garden was absolutely electric, my man. I'm talking.

I never seen a basketball game like that. The garden in Boston is always electric, but it was like another level, you know, in New York City. I feel like because they haven't been in the playoffs or that far and so long, and they're also facing the reigning champs. And they did win that game as well. So New York is popping, but I'm not a Knicks fan. I'm a Celtics fan, actually.

Not really, I don't really have a true NBA team because I grew up in Buffalo, but I'm cheering for Oklahoma Thunder right now. I just watched Game 7 versus December. Oh, I thought you're going to go. No, I'm not going Knicks. I was just giving them credit for their atmosphere in the stadium. And it does. It feels like their fan base is psychotic and incredible.

Psychotic, man. The last game they just played, they beat the shit out of the Celtics. I know. I've seen those videos, though. Like, 18 to like 84 or something like that. Yeah.

Well, I mean, the Celtics. Tatum was down. Brown has like a torn MCL. The couple other guys. They're getting football injuries. They had like an illness.

Yeah. Football injuries. Yeah. They just don't know how to work through because they're not football. Got to get that soft dish. Get that soft dish figuring out, baby. And also Timothy Shaleman. You see that guy sitting outside the SUV.

Yeah. That guy. Videos after the game, like outside Timothy Charlemagne, and then, like, there's some fan. What is that? What is that? I think he said it nice. Charlemagne? Yeah, Charlemagne.

That's a hard name to say. It's a hard name to say. You don't want me to try it. And I saw some other fans. They're throwing, like, trash bags at him. Who is that? Was that a Celtics fan? That was an Indiana Pacers fan.

And he was wearing the star player's name. What's a Halliburton? Sure. Yeah, Halliburton's jersey. And they were throwing trash cans and everything at him. And everybody just video on it. Dude, the Northeast was wild. That's too much, man.

Just because he's wearing the jersey around the city and you're attacking him. I mean, it was one verse like a thousand. The guy just had to walk away in shame. But I think that's too much to start throwing trash at like a random fan that's just wearing another jersey. Can I tell you something? In the middle of the streets. I kind of love it.

You do? I do because it's just like it adds for the entertainment. For the entertainment. I don't think we should ever hurt somebody. We should never be hateful. Checkbox, check box, check box. But I also think like, when fan bases are that nasty.

You talk about like the Philadelphia Eagles. Like that adds to the storyline of all the teams playing and the last time they played X, Y, and Z happened. Like, I think it's good for sports and the culture and everything like that. That's a good point. There's a place for it. Just as long as it doesn't lead to, you know,

aggressiveness and stabbing people. And fights and, yeah, people getting stabbed. But that's usually what it leads to eventually. Right, right. If we can just throw a nice bag of trash or somebody and they maybe just like bump chest a couple times, push each other, move on. Yeah, we'll take that every day in the week.

Maybe throw a couple fists. Yeah, if we're just a couple. Keep it classy. Since we're showing the basketball thing, Kate and Clark, Angel Reese, where do you stand on that? I'm a Kate and Clark fan. Are you really? Where do you stand on that?

Do you see this past weekend? I see how the internet's blowing up about it and making it something like way more than what it actually is. I really do think that Angel Reese does not like Kate and Clark. Well, she probably doesn't. She definitely doesn't. They have probably a competitive rivalry, but everybody tries to make it about some race thing.

Storyline. Oh, yeah, yeah. But the first time, I'm a Caitlin Clark fan because I actually just hearing a lot about her when she was at Iowa. What was it? I think her second last year when she was playing in all the games. No, I think it was her last year. And I haven't seen her play yet.

And then she was in the tournament. And I finally watched a game in the tournament. And she was just shooting threes up like she was Steph Curry. And she was just sinking them from like five feet past the three point line. That's when I became a big fan just watching her first game in the tournament. And I was just thrilled watching her. And I was in shock just how. smooth she was too with all her passes the way she dribble and the way she shot um and then ever since

then i became a big fan of her game and now i follow her through the wmba and i follow that whole beef angel reese katelyn clark and i think katelyn clark is on the pedestal of being top dog in the mb and the wmba and angel reese i feel like he's just a little bit jealous you know i think when we go we talk about the story we're in college yeah right that too it goes all the way back to them kailan clark being as good as she is is one thing so she comes in as a big jump in the in the in the viewership in WMBA, but that wouldn't be sustainable if there wasn't the Angel Reese's adding to like the hate, now we have this big rivalry going on. So next time they play, the seats were filled for that game.

And I just think it's brought a lot of attention to the league. Yeah. I don't think, yeah, I agree. You need Angel Reese to have this hatred to Caitlin Clark and all these other players to keep getting that attention that the WMBA actually deserves as well. And it's working. Right. You know, if they were all for Caitlin Clark, oh, she's such a good player.

Right. She's so sweet to play guys. I'm going to let her shoot her three-pointer. I'm not going to contest it. No, since she's getting elbows thrown at her, people are loving that. And people love physicality in sports. That's what fans love. That's why hockey's back, all the fighting with the four nations,

everyone's throwing elbows at each other, the checks. That's why NBA is kind of back in the playoffs right now because the referees are letting all that physicality, you know, just go on. They're getting physical again in the pain. They're throwing elbows. They're playing hard. And fans love to see that. And that's why football is the greatest sport.

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could we just get a quick moment of silence for my beloved Toronto Maple Leafs? Thank you very much for your time. You know, that was tough for me because I'm from Buffalo. I'm a big Buffalo Sabres fans. Toronto Maple Leafs was our rival. Really?

You know, throughout my whole childhood, especially Ty Domi versus Rob Ray, all those fights back in the day. I love both of them just getting after it. Yes, but I didn't really want to give that moments of silence. Okay. It's all about being here in the bus. I will say this.

If we can, we can be nasty about Toronto now. They're in a game seven in the biggest game in your franchise's history since 1967 when you actually won the cup. Disgusting display of effort. The boys were, did not want it yesterday. In the first period,

zero, then all of a sudden I go to start putting my kids down. I pop up the YouTube TV as I'm laying on the ground as they're falling asleep. And they're just getting throttled. Bad leadership. It was like three goals within 10. 10 minutes. Buddy.

And they just got after them over and over and over again. I mean, they killed a great penalty after the first period. And then while it was a wall, he was a goalie correct. He became a sieve in those last two periods. And it was just tough, dude. Tough.

Well, I know history repeats itself. And I think the Toronto Maple Leafs have folded and basically every game seven in the last five, six years, right? In the playoffs. So I actually did my first NHL bet on Fandul sports book last night. I bet $200 on the Florida Panthers.

is beating the Toronto Maple Leafs straight up. And I won. Let me pull it up, man. I'm not telling you. It's my first bet I've ever made. And I'll pull up my- in the NHL world. Taylor put five grand on the Maple Leafs.

Yeah. That must have not worked so well. No, it did hit. It didn't hit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So I kind of wish you won now. And then we could have like one more money. You mentioned winning your bet a lot more and got his asking. Hold on. Let me go. It was actually my first bat in the state of Tennessee too, which is really cool. All right here, Tennessee.

Settled. Look at that. Florida Panthers. Total wage, $200. $1.3.40. I love that. Yeah, look at that. You don't got to show me.

You know, I just kind of wanted to. You just wanted to show it off. Check it out. I did see that. I saw that on Twitter last night. I'm just thinking to myself. God damn it. Well, I was just watching.

I was doing the same thing. I was batting a thousand percent right now. My last four bets with the Toronto Maple Weeks have gotten murdered. And I had Toronto a futures bet on them winning the Eastern Conference finals. And obviously that's not going to come together anymore. That's now dead.

Biz has been such a like, you know, voice for the Leafs. And then you've obviously been riding with the Leafs too. So knowing that they were in a game seven when I was just watching it last night. She says like a, you know, non-hockey guy just watching as a fan of the game. For the love of the game. We got a game seven going on.

It did seem like Florida was just playing at a different speed. Just bullying, bullying the Maple Leafs. I had clump on the phone with a, bunch of people from Fan Duol setting up something when they won this game. I was going to go to a game in Toronto. Yeah. Check it out. Get the environment.

See what that's all about. Sure enough, man. Well, they shit the bed. And everyone told me, Toronto is like the Dallas Cowboys of hockey. Like they're like the biggest most well-known franchise. They sell the most jerseys.

They make the most money. And I thought that's great. I'll get behind them. It'll be a fun fan base to play with. Little did I know if they really are the Dallas Cowboys, they'll shit the bed in the playoffs. And that's what just happened. Yeah. Tough. Tough.

It was one too, like when it was zero, zero after the first period, I was like, I wonder if it were, because you could notice that Florida was just out playing them a whole time, even though it was zero zero. It was like 17 to three shots. I'm like, are they going to let them hang around and the lease might just pull something off, but then they just started to just put their face in the pillow. And Austin Matthews is the Scottsley Arizona guy, captain. I was like, man, I need an Arizona boy to run for us. But now we got Chuck, Cuch for the Panthers.

I mean, my favorite player in the NHL, though, is the Admitternoilers. I'm going blank. Yeah, McDade. I mean, I love just the way that he plays, how he skates around, just defenders. Ice to ice, you know, line to line and just goes around everyone. I'm cheering for him. I'm hoping that I'm into noilers win it all. Plus, I feel like the NHL needs a Canada team to, you know, win it.

It's been so long, and I think that will bring hockey back in a way, even though, you know. Four nations. Yeah, even though we're beefing a little bit. We're beefing hard right now. Yeah. Canada's beefing with the U.S. Real world. I think it would be, yeah, I think it would be really good if Edmonton Oils.

winners win it for the NHL. Just for the sport, the attention and everything. Exactly. And on top of it, in top of speaking about hockey, my brother texted me this morning, he goes, you have to let, because I was like, I'm going on with busing with the boys. And I didn't really know. I don't think he really knew. That's truly, you guys are like more of a football podcast.

And he goes, you have to let them know you're going to be in the hockey world soon with all your nephews. So I just want to give a shout out to all my nephews. They're up and coming in the hockey world right now. They're playing on the Buffalo Junior Sabers. They're ballers. And you'll be hearing a lot about them in the future. He's about eight years old and 10 years.

My nephews. Ralphie didn't like that. Ralphie was not a fan of that play. I told my brother I would get it in if somehow the hockey subject gets brought up. So there you go, brother. And Jace Grayson keep dominating. Boys, you guys are going to be lethal out there on the ice. You play it all?

You on the skates, be in New York. I love playing hockey, man. I grew up and played until ninth grade. And I stopped playing hockey because hockey and basketball were at the same time. And I just thought basketball was a better fit for me. and I kind of like basketball more at that time, but hockey was my favorite sport growing up. Yeah, I mean, you're massive.

So many damn stories, bro. That's probably the right call with basketball. Yeah, but think about this guy as a defenseman in hockey. I was a left wing. I was like Chara, but left wing. Do you know what Chal is? No. That's your wife, number one.

Number two is Adania Charo. He was a guy that played for the Boston Bruins. He's like 6-7. He's like 6-11 on skates. He was Russian, right? This Russian cat who just beat the fuck out of people. He was not from the U.S. I don't know exactly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was not from here. He wasn't from here. But the guy had like a hundred. I think he did like a 110 mile an hour slap shot. Because he used to do that like the All-Star games. They would do all like the little challenges. His slap shot was insane.

He played literally like 23 years in the NHL. And just with bodybag people. Probably the best defense men of all time. Yeah. And that could have been grown. It's six nine. Could have been grown. Could have been grown.

Six nine. Were you nice up until you stop playing? Yeah, I was nice. I was nice. If I get on skates now, I'm pretty sloppy because it's been so long. And you got to like be able to skate all the time in order to keep up with it. But I was, nice, man. I only played up a level. I played with all my friends that were older than me.

I love playing hockey. It was, it was by far my favorite sport, and I was in Buffalo, too, with all the ice rinks around. It was so good. I had one time scored 10 goals in a game when it was, it was house hockey. We were down 10 to 1, and I ended up scoring 10 goals in a row and tied it up and made it 11, 11, and then we ended up losing 12 to 11. That was, I think, squirts. You scored 10 goals? It was ridiculous. It was one of the best performance. performances of all time. I know it was just house hockey. And then another time there was this there was this chick-hawakia. There was this was just chick-de-waga team I think it was. And this is a pretty good story. And she was vicious. She was strong and she always came after me to try and just

deck me. And it was always a joke all right. We're playing the chick like don't get leveled. And she came at me and I absolutely destroyed her. I'm talking like she would go flying back like three feet, but she would get up, and the next shift, she would come full speed and try to deck me one time. She hit me pretty hard. She went flying back still, though, but my helmet broke and my face mask went flying off me. So still to this day, my friends punked me about the time, the chick absolutely rocked me and my face masks weren't flying off me. But then, like, literally, like 10 years later, when I got to the NFL, whatever, eight years later, however long it was, I'm a rookie, and she DMs me on Facebook. She's like, hey, Rob, remember, I'm the girl that

always attacked you in hockey. And I, like, lost my mind. I was showing all my friends that she's, uh, she's writing me messages. It was just, it was just cool. Big respect to her too. Like even though she got deck. She's trying to slide in the DMs after. Yeah. Oh, he made it to the league. You're ours rival. She was your angel Reese and you're, and then all of a sudden you make it to the league. She's like, I just want to give her a shout out for just having the sack to just come at me. Yeah. Yeah. Every single shift. I'm sure you were an absolute unit at this time too still. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I was. No, back in the day when

I was playing hockey. Oh, fearless. Fearless. I played how we had a much different stories. I played hockey like when I was like eight or whatever like mites. And it was right before checking. And I house,

house got a hat trick. We won it. The next year, Peewees were doing like tryouts for a travel team. And I did not know checking was like starting right as the whistle's blowing some guy who I believe in my head is still to this day. He was six, seven at eight years old. It knocks me down.

I got off the ice. I was done. I wanted nothing to do with it. Really? Wanted nothing to do with it. Was that the last? That was the last time you skate? That was the last time.

You know they say get back on the horse? No. I went in that locker room. I took my pads off. I retired that day. Dude, I was such a pussy growing up. Well, then what got you in the football? If you couldn't handle hockey heads.

No idea. How the fuck did you get into football? I was the kid that was like tall. He even hated baseball. I think he got hit with the ball and he got hit by a pitch. But dude, I would step when he was done. Oh, Mom, I never played a guy. That was me.

Yes. Dude, I would step out of the batters box and they're like kind of swing like this. Oh, you were one of those kids. Oh, those were the best. Dude, that backs up when the pitch is coming. He backs up three feet in the swings. That was me. Yeah.

How is you? Because he's so scared. It's so scared. All those kids drove me crazy. Yeah, yeah. That was, you would have hated my guts. You would hate it my guts.

Like, when did that switch get? Probably Cupid. Probably like my, yeah, I got a little hair on my sack and I was like, you know what? This physicality thing is not bad. I like went from doing sports like from 5 to 11,

12, 13. I did my whole like X games, like a meta militia, Travis Pastrana, Nitrocercercercercercercercerke's life. And then I got a little bit trouble my dad's like you gotta play football and we went and played football one state my sophomore year at nose tackle and from then on i was like yo i'm obsessed with football i loved it is that the dog

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Really? Yeah. Who would that be? Sniff them out. You talk about yourself? No, I've, I've, I, I've, I have a Frenchie a little bit. Yeah, you look like a French. Yeah, you look like a French.

Yeah, you look like one of those white Frenchies. Yeah. I got an English bulldog at home. Oh, you do? All right, that's like a French bulldog. Yeah, that's the grandfather. Yeah, we're part of the bulldog world. Yeah, yeah.

Like I said, yeah, you do. You look like more of a French. But go ahead, sniff them out. I'm a English bulldog. That's tough. Is that but Taylor, you can't. I can't let you guys be talking up. I don't hate Frenchies.

Yeah, you're not opposed to him. I'm a little bit opposed to him. Really? Oh, so it's him. Yeah. I'm one of them. So this is good. You're not a French guy.

I'm not a French guy. I think he's got a good coat on him. He's got a good broad shoulders. He's got a nice coat on the boy looks good. Got a piece on him too. My God. What about these balls that are hanging back there? I haven't seen those.

I haven't turned around, Ralphie. I mean, it's nickname's Ralph Nuts. I'll take a peek later. I don't want to make him uncomfortable right now. But yeah, yeah, good looking dog I just Wow Yeah

That's a good boy right now This is a tough start to me In this podcast It's a tough start for me You know Walk off the bus Oh no Don't do that

Not yeah Bus driver Open up the door Ralph and I getting off We're going for a walk Yeah I'm gonna have to think about this We need to take a couple deep breaths

Aren't these guys like made in the lab Like aren't they like not I know that that is one thing That they say about I just kind of plug my ears When people start talking got a lot of health issues too, right? A lot of health issues, but this guy, he stays in top shape.

But he's pretty healthy. That's crazy. But a majority of them, I mean, for how healthy he is, it's still like a full-time job, just making sure that he's healthy. But, you know, you got to keep him active. If you don't keep him active, then that's when all the health problems definitely really start. You put them on the treadmill. They're so sweet.

Their personalities are through their roof. They're like human beings. They're the best to be one-on-one with them. They're just so entertaining and loving. That's awesome, man. I'm happy for you. Thank you, man. I'm happy for you.

As long as you're happy for me. I'm happy. That's it, brother. That's all I can do. I'm staying. Dude, let's talk about growing up, so you grew up in Buffalo. I don't like Taylor. He ran over to the French bulldog master.

Yeah, Boboda. So you grew in Buffalo. Ivy guy. Yeah. Shout on air take. Shout on her. Tell him I give him a shout out. You know, I'm a good guy like that.

He gave me an IV this morning. He was always a surgeon. I had some, you know, vitamins this morning, some NAD, they'll make sure I'm clear, So thank you to Aratee. Yeah. Shout out Arita. Arita.

Dot in. Dude, Buffalo. You grew up in Buffalo. How do you head to Tucson, Arizona? All right. Was it dirt bags? No, it wasn't dirt bags, but it should have been dirt bags. Actually, I never been to dirt bags before until I actually went to the NFL and then I was

old enough when I came back on a visit after my rookie year. I was 21, so I finally got to go to dirtbacks. I didn't hit any bars when I was. Great save. No, no. I really didn't. You weren't allowed to. I mean, I would admit it.

Like, no big deal. I didn't hit any bars when I was at the University of Arizona. It was literally all house parties or going to a frat party or having our own house party or just running around the streets, just trying to get into a bar but not getting into the bar because I was never of age. But so my brothers were getting recruited out of high school. And my brother, Chris, who's two years older than me. Well, first off, my dad's in the business of selling fitness equipment.

He's been in the business for 35 years now. And then he became best friends with a guy named Donnie who did the same thing as him that was an alumni at the University of Arizona but sold all his equipment in Arizona. So then, you know, they go on a work trip where life fitness brings everyone because they both sell life fitness products. And then what is it? Like a fitness convention? And then that's where they met and they became best friends. And then when we were all just kids. So like alumni, Arizona was like, bring your kids out to Arizona.

I know the coaches. I'll get them, you know, I'll try to get them a scholarship. show them the film, bring them out on a trip. Come on, we got to get it done. So I went on a trip with my brother when he was a senior when he went to the University of Arizona. My dad was like, hey, you're up next in line. Come on the trip, see what it's all about to get recruited.

And then University of Arizona was the very first school I basically ever seen it in my life. And I fell in love with the place. My sophomore year in high school, I was like, this is a college. This is ridiculous. I mean, it's 90 degrees, palm trees. We went by a pool party. And like, as a sophomore year,

you know, in high school, you're like, oh my gosh. Out in Arizona. This is ridiculous. Yeah, those Arizona schools. ASU of A's nuts. Exactly. And then that's how I got to University of Arizona. I fell in love with it when I just tagged along with my brother on his recruiting trip.

And then they started recruiting me from there after my brother chose to go to the University of Maryland. Then he actually transferred to the University of Arizona and played with me there for two years. And he was a fullback and I was a tight end. And we were on the field at the same time for a year, which was just super cool. have and just ball out with my brother. So that's how I got there. Long story, sure. You were, were you highly recruited coming out of high school? Yeah, I was a four star. I was in the rivals top. Yeah. 150. I was like the fifth tight end on the board.

Hernandez was actually number one. Really? Yeah, we were in the same class. He was number one. And then there's a couple in between. I forgot who they were, but they never made it to the NFL. I don't think. But it was, you know, it was, you know, the whole entire recruiting process I went through. It was, you know, enjoyable because my top four, you know, were Ohio State, Clemson, Syracuse, and Arizona, and everyone was just so surprised that I, you know, chose Arizona to go all the way out west. But I just fell in love with that place from the very beginning. Love Clemson, almost went there. That was definitely number two. Ohio State, you know, they were recruiting me. I kind of just took a visit there because it was the Ohio State

University. I mean, I could definitely see myself fitting in there. You know, I can see myself being a Buckeye. That's when Jim Tressel was a head coach, too. The facilities were insane as well. And then Syracuse, my dad went to, but the program was just so down low at the time. Yeah. And I just kind of wanted to get out of the state of New York. I didn't want to go back to, you know, basically home where I grew up in Buffalo. So Arizona was just a right thing. Don't you have a legendary story from your Ohio State visit? Yes, I do. To where you were, What was it? You were hungover? I was super hungover.

So I was a senior. I moved to Pittsburgh my senior year in high school. So it was an easy trip to go over, you know, to Ohio State when they were recruiting me. And then all my friends for Buffalo, they were all older than me. And some of them went to the Ohio State University. So I took my official visit there and I went out with my friends the night before the game. And they showed me around. We actually got in a fight, which wasn't surprising.

That was my last time I basically brought. I used to fight all the time. when I was a senior in high school because I was visit my brothers at the University of Maryland and they were just badass motherfuckers, him and his roommates, and they were just brawl every weekend.

And I would show up and just joined the brawls with them. Just a fight club in the University of Maryland. Just join the balls in. It was on the hall. Hey, Rob, you wanna go get this one in? Do they just taping up the hands? We would literally walk from the bar and just try to pick a fight on the way home.

I was running into people on purpose. And then next thing you know, it was a five on five brawl. I was getting thrown down a hill. My brother kicked the guy in the face. Yeah, next thing I know I look up the hill, and the guys falling down the hill that threw me down the hill. But I got in a little fight.

It wasn't that big of a fight at the Ohio State. It was just a little, you know, scuffle. But we had a good time. And the next morning went to the game. I think that was Ohio State versus. I forgot who they were playing, but I was hurting. Look at this guy in the bottom right. I was hurting.

All the waters that I had. Yeah. All the waters I had. Did Ohio State, did any of the staff know that you had gotten to fight the night before? No, no. clue. No clue. It wasn't that big of a fight. It wasn't worth, you know, being in the news either. It wasn't newsworthy. All that water I drank got me feeling like that. Like there was no like phones back then or Twitter, which was the best time. I'm so glad

none of that shit existed like when I was in college. Like it was an era of like the cell, the camera phones were just beginning when I was in college. But like that absolutely sucks to be a superstar in college right now. You can't like really live a college life because everyone as those camera phones. If you go out, you know, to a house party, you're just going to be filmed. Like, that's not cool at that age. Yeah. You really can't have that true college experience. And I feel like I was that last era to be able to do all the crazy shit without ever being on like a cell phone or being like reported to Twitter. Plus, I wasn't as good as, you know, I was in the NFL as I was in college. I was a good player. But it's not like, you know, people knew me like that.

I could run around. Yeah, but you chose to leave early, right? Yeah, I left early as well. Yeah, but you got to be pretty damn good to be able to enter your name into the drive. Yeah, which sucked because I didn't even play my junior year. Really? Yeah, which sucked. I was about the ball out, man. I was ready to go. My junior year, Nick Foles was our quarterback.

We had a solid team. We went eight and four that year. My brother was the fullback as well, so it sucked. I couldn't play with my brother and my friends with Foles. We were balling in the spring game as well. I had like eight catches for like 100 in the spring game. And that was the first time that we even played together, Foles and I.

And then I just blew out my back, bro. I had that micro-doseccccomy surgery where I think, it was just going to ham in college lifting doing all the other you know extra activities as well and then i just have major bulging disc and i just kept going harder and harder on it and like the harder i went on it the more numb it would get at that moment and i was able to go out to practice and lift and then like that night i wouldn't be able to move and the next day i would just go hard on it again and eventually i blew it out totally like i couldn't even feel my legs anymore when i was 19 years old and that it sucked because i had to get the surgery that and then finally i was

like, yo, my back's fucked up. And then I even went out to training camp and got open on the in route, ran so slow. But it opened up, the defense opened up. And I caught the pass turned around like one mile per hour. And I walked off the field. I was like, yo, I'm fucked. And then we were finally like, all right, let's get an MRI. And my back was blown out.

The disc was so hernaded on the spinal cord. And then eventually I got the surgery and missed my junior year, which, you know, if I could go back, that's one thing I would do is if I wish I could replay my junior year and play at the University of Arizona. But I still left early. Still left early. You must have had a good couple of first years then. I did.

What was crazy is my freshman year going in, I had six touchdowns, you know, like 500-something yards. I was bawling. But then going into my sophomore year, I was like, I'm ready to dominate, you know. It's kind of like the NFL, you know, you're getting your feet wet. I didn't really know the playbook that well, you know, adjusting to life, trying to, you know, do the dumb shit off the field as well that was more important to me burn the candle at both ends is telling it was it was really more important to me i'm not gonna it was probably just as important as

football was to me was going out and and acting like an idiot you know if rookie year in the NFL and freshman year at college i mean you can't blame me 18 years old 21 years old at a place like you of a too and then uh going to myself maria i'm ready to dominate i get mono i get mono somehow and i'm I can guess. He said I get money. And I had to miss the first three games because they said like, oh, your spleen's blown up, you know, you got to miss. So I missed three games my sophomore year, true sophomore year,

came back and played like, what is it? You missed three? What is it? 12 games? And the season played nine games, had like 10 touchdowns and balled out. And then we went to the Las Vegas ball, which was my last game. I played at the University of Arizona.

And that was the year my brother and I played together. And he had a great game. I only had like, you know, 20 yards that bowl game. But we won. It was the first bowl game that the University of Arizona even went to in 10 years, and we won it. And then that was my last game as a wildcat. But overall, I played 16 games in college and had 16 touchdowns as an 18-year-old and 19-year-old. That is awesome.

So I had enough film to get me, you know, drafted in the second round. When you had the bulging discs and you got the MRI and they're like, you can't even feel your legs, Did you think at any point that your career was over? Yeah, I sure did, actually. I went and actually, I was lucky enough I had an insurance policy. My dad got me an insurance policy going in my junior year because I was, you know, I was kind of highly rated, you know, that I could get drafted that year in like the top three rounds.

So I had an insurance policy. And I could have cashed out on it, actually, because they were saying I had spinal, denosis. What is it, spinal? I wouldn't know. Spinal. What's that word? Stenosis.

I'm saying denosis. Spinal stenosis. And like my spinoesis. binds curved and there's a lot of question marks on my back and they were like oh like the insurance company was like hey you can never play football again if you get that policy and I was like I was like fuck that I'm playing football that was my ultimate dream I always wanted to be in the NFL I'll just work through this um but at some points trying to come back because that was my first surgery like I couldn't really get that pop back because you lose that pop because the spinal core is completely shut down and like

to get that pop to get that explosiveness back I was training I left early I was training for the combine and right before the combine, I didn't participate in the combine because at that time, I didn't even have that pop still. Like, I couldn't even broad jump like 17. This dude just played high school football basically. And then what's the NFL? And then finally, boom, I got it back. And then, you know, I kind of understood the recovery process and all that. And then I was finally like, all right, I can play again. I got this. But there was a little point like, man, I might not ever be able to play again because like, you know, that, you know, you never been through that experience, you know. So I'm glad I got over that fear and over that stage because everything

worked out. You didn't even play your junior year? No, not one, not one snap. You know the last game of him officially like as a as a wildcat Nebraska. Las Vegas Bowl? No, that was the year I didn't play, brother. Was that for you? Were you on that team? I was a freshman. You were a freshman. So that was the year I didn't play. That was a holiday bowl, right? The holiday bowl. We got smacked by you guys. You had no got in the Darmacan Sioux. At the time he went what, number two overall. That that year but that was a year I got hurt and if I didn't get hurt we would have waxed your ass brother but I think we actually we would have been in the rose bowl yeah yeah dude oh that's that was in San Diego yeah you were 33 to nothing I was yeah you guys were chilling when you're really

I mean I was young yeah you're red shirt bumped us do what you're a redshirt this was my freshman redshirt year got you not my redshirt not my redshirt not my retro year but my second year yeah your registered freshman year yeah yeah yeah that was bad we got wapped i was there though i was there i didn't play that whole year man it sucked it sucks not playing dude yeah you just standing in the sideline it's fast it was i was standing on the side line it's fascinating to me that he got draft in the second round and he only played 16 games in college and he had back surgery and how had all these question marks about it didn't participate going up to the combine yeah like in the pre-draft process didn't it didn't even participate

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Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Did you fall asleep in a draft interview? Yes, with the Patriots. With Bill? With Bill? Yeah, Bill told this story plenty of times. This story's been talking about plenty.

But I was so tired, man, because you know that draft process. I think it's the stupidest process as well. Like you go from team to team. It's like you're on 15 flights in like 15 days getting interviewed by all these teams. And the Patriots were my last one. And I was exhausted. I fell asleep like the first 10 minutes I got there in the room that they put me in. Like, hey, we'll be right back.

And I fell asleep on the spot when they came back. in the check on me. And then I also bombed the interview process, but like, bombed it in the best way possible. Like, how's that? How do you bomb something in the best way possible? All right. Like, for example, they drew a play on the board, Billy O. And he's, and then he erased it. He's like, draw the play. What you got? What does everyone have? And it was one of the hardest place. It's still a route that I still don't even understand. OPEC. It's like the receiver goes up and down back, like a comeback. And then he goes, takes off again. And he makes another comeback. Something, you know, way above. It sounds like the long. It's like the long.

longest progressing play at all time. Yeah, exactly. Way above my, you know, my skill set. I don't run routes like that. I don't stop, go, stop. Yeah. It's too big to stop and go. And I was like, whatever.

So he's like, redraw the whole play. And I was like, brother, like I'm stuck. Like I like ground zero I'm at like and I was like you know something though? Just throwing me to fucking ball still. And like I was like that, like that type of interview. Like you would just say this above my head right now. I was so bound that I would just come up with an insane answer like that. Yeah.

Just throw me the ball. still. Just taps him on the shoe. That's all I know. Were you ever, like, nervous in front of these coaches? Because to have that kind of, hey, just throw me the ball anyway. It just screams confidence. I was never really nervous.

Because, like, are you standing up at the whiteboard with the marker in hand, trying to think like, shit, what was the play drew? And then they're just like, hey. You get a double comeback. He's just talking about. Yeah. I'm going to be honest. I don't remember.

But just throw me the ball. It was tough, man. I was cashed out, though. It was like my 15 visit in, like, the last 15 days. I was cashed out. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And you, you said you had 15 visits of all the visits.

Like, which one did go the best? It was probably about like eight visits or so. 15 was a little exaggerated. That's okay. But 15, including the combine. Yeah. Met with 15 teams there. But, you know, I felt like they all went really smooth.

You know, I was on point with them all. You know, the Cincinnati Bengals one, I really wanted to be on point because we all knew that they were going to draft a tight end first round. And then they took Jermaine Gresham. But they were interviewing me. crazy now they had the 21st pick i felt like i i i smacked everything right on the money with all the questions my interviews at the combine i felt like i did a great job and everything uh but just overall just bombed uh new one the new london patriots one like bombed it like

in the worst way possible like i said like i like when bill y oh and bill describe how the how the official visit yeah or it's not the official visit that's in high school how the interview visit went. But, you know, and also at the time, like, there was so many players getting in trouble in the NFL. And I remember I called my brother. I was like, fuck this. I'm going to act like a complete idiot.

I feel like it gets you, like, more chances, you know, because there was like five guys that were just arrested and they were signing big deals in the NFL. Yeah. They're like, oh, that's a good way to think about it and look at it. Yeah, use that theory, Rob, go. Would you? And I did, and it worked. It worked.

It worked. I think that was what passed. Man Jones was getting arrested all the time. Yeah, I mean, it was a crazy time. Yeah. And then he signed a big deal. And I was like, yeah, I was like, if you freaking act like a fucking insane motherfucker, you're going to get picked up.

So it's crazy. I went into the interview process like that. And it worked. That is, wow. Because you got to be, you got to be nuts. You got to be tapped in order to play in the NFL as well. To some extent. I think it depends on the position.

Depends in the position. Yes. Like if you're a D-end, a tight end, like a wide receivers and corners, they have the own like cocky personalities or stereotypical cocky personalities. Quarterbacks, I feel like to be composed, calm, confident individuals. But yeah. A little weird too. The psychotic tight end. Yeah. The psychotic tight end is you made a name for the, for the brand. You, you walked so the George Kittles could run. Because you got a whole bunch of different guys now out there. He's still running, bro. Crushing. He's got paid big time again. Yeah. What is he? 31, 32? He's got paid as the highest

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we knew this was a possibility? No, I was upset. It's, uh, my mom says that there's two times in my life that she's ever seen me upset. I forgot the second time. We got to give her a call. Yeah.

If she told me, I would remember, like it would be like that. Yeah. But she's in that other time was not getting drafted in the first round while I was at the draft in New York City. Did you have all the cameras around you and everything? Not really, you know, it wasn't really expected for me to go in the first round. It was the first time. I like to say this.

I was infamously, you know, drafted as the first player going to New York as the first player getting drafted at the draft in the second round. So that's how I look at it as I started that trend. If you go to the draft, it's fine that you get drafted in the second round still. So I was the first player to ever have that happen to. But there was also other ones after me as well that year that got drafted in the second and third round. But I was ticked off. I felt like I deserved to go in the first. I was always a goal of mine.

But after I got picked by the New England Patriots in the second round and they traded up for me, I thought that was really cool getting traded up for. Like, you know, it's unique and like you feel special about that situation. But once I got drafted, man, I didn't care one single bit anymore that, you know, I wasn't a first rounder. It was a blessing. It was one of the best feelings of all time that, you know, could ever happen to you. Knowing that the expectation wasn't necessarily for you to go in the first round, what made you decide to still go to, like, New York and be potentially around the cameras and everything

when it's a possibility that you might not go in the first round. Well, I didn't really look at it as like, oh, I got to be a first rounder because they draft, they actually brought in a lot of other players as well that were expected to go in the second round. So it wasn't like I was going to, you know, feel uncomfortable there. Gotcha. So there was like five other players. players that didn't get draft again. It was its first year like, hey, we want first rounders and second rounders at the draft. We want to expand it. We want to show the inside, you know, for both

rounds, not just the top 10 picks. So they expanded how many players they invited to the draft. And it was about like 25 guys there. So like 25 guys aren't going in the first round. That's too hard to be able to balance that to know who's going where. So I didn't care. I thought it was cool. And being, you know, 20 years old, you know, you look for the spotlight then, you know. And whenever you get an invite, you take it, you know, at that age. Now these days you pick and choose, like, oh, I got to go do that in front of the camera. You're like, ah, whatever, you know. But when you're 20 years old, you love all those moments. You're never saying no at 20 years old. So I was definitely not going to say no to that situation. And, you know, being at the draft,

you know, as a kid, that's all you look forward to, you know, watching all the players get drafted. Like, that could be me. I just got the invite. You know, I wasn't not going to do that down. Guys standing up there holding the jersey, shaking Goodell's hand. Exactly. That's badass. Yeah. It is. It's awesome.

Really is. Did you plan the celebration that you do with your family? Because it is, it's got to be number one. It is epic. You know, it's still talked about to this day, definitely. But that's just how we were, you know. You know, that's how we party. That's the University of Arizona.

We got around. Hoorah, jump up and down. Get rowdy. All that good stuff. And whenever we get together as a family, it was just bringing all the energy and juice to the table. So we knew we were going to be celebrating. but not to the extent of like putting the helmets on, putting my hand down versus my brother, you know, getting in a circle and hoeing all over the place. So that was just on the spot right there.

God, that's so awesome, dude. That was cool. It was good, man. You talked about comparing, like, saying that your off-the-field life was just as important to you as on the field. Was that, how long did that carry into your NFL career? I would say just a couple years. I mean, I started realizing that football, you know, is definitely number one in my life and that football, you know, needs to be number one.

Like, I can't be putting football aside. I can't be putting the training aside just because I want to go out, hang out with the friends, be busing with the boys at, you know, at whatever college I'm visiting my buddies at because I left college early. So after my rookie year, all my friends were still in college, you know. So I'm visiting Miami, Ohio, which, oh, my gosh. Gosh, going out there. Right.

That place is crazy. Oh, rocking, bro. I got my jersey up at Brick Street still. I mean, I'm a legend there. I'm visiting pool parties. Look at those pictures. So I'm going ham. At least I'm going so ham.

I was getting exercise while I was going ham. I was staying in shape. I was burning at least 1,000 to 2,000 calories. Just dancing. The three, four hour period of going out. But I realize that football has to be number one, though. And football is going to sustain that. you know, the extra activities as well.

And so if I keep the football, you know, activities and football, you know, skills at the highest level, everything else is always going to be there. I learned that about two, three years into the league. What made you come to this realization? Was it a conversation with the teammate, family member? Through experience of showing up to football and being deteriorated and sucking. Yeah. And being out of shape and lying to puke and feeling like every single one of your muscles are going to

spasm out there on the field or pull and like yeah it's like miserable and you're like yeah I shouldn't be out here right now and you got to work your way through it because you got to show that you know you're doing the proper things you know yeah but uh when when you hit you know real life when you hit that realization on the field of of it's not going well you know that's when you know you got to tune things up and you got to change whatever whatever you're doing I mean I'm sure you experienced that before at least once or twice the realization that football has to be the main. thing yeah oh absolutely yeah everyone has pretty young for me because i you know the hearing about the stories that you have i just i think in my head like i don't know how i would function as an athlete in college if i like my night life was just right there i put as much into my night life as i did football so i feel like it just wouldn't i don't know i feel like genetically it wasn't it wouldn't have worked for me yeah like hearing the way you talk about it sounds like you were like practicing and then after practice you're like okay what are we going to do tonight and for me, like I have partied a lot in college in my first couple years in the NFL, but it was always

to me like, in my brain, I'd be like, I'm not going to go out this weekend. Then accidentally, all of a sudden, it'd be 2 a.m. on a Saturday. And I'd be up at losers or Rick's American Cafe in Ann Arbor. It seemed like you were like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to work really hard at football so I can go party and get the most out of that. There we go. That's exactly how it went. No doubt about it. And also, going out in the party, it wasn't, you know, throughout the week. It was only one night a week or maybe possibly two nights a week during the off season. It wasn't an everyday thing. If it was an every night thing, then I would definitely never be where I am right now.

So I always put that work in too. And then sometimes we're in the weight room and we would work harder. We would be pushing each other harder because we'd be like, hey, you got to look jack tonight. You know, you got that six minutes. Extra, you know, 20 crunches, extra minute on the plank, you know, extra set of the bench press. So that motivated you. That got you to where you needed to get to because then you felt like you deserved to go. out that night too. So, you know, it was always in back of the mind. But it wasn't like, you know,

a daily thing. If it was a daily thing, I've seen players go through the daily thing where they're going out, you know, throughout the week too. And I always knew, too, as a kid, even in college, I'm like, no, I ain't touching that during the week. I ain't going out during the week. I need my sleep. You know, I need to go to classes, obviously. I need to be ready for practice. And then I always actually did it when I always knew I had basically had off next day as well. Yeah, sometimes in the younger generation era, you know, you would do it with practice till the next day at like 10 a.m. or 11 and you would just fight your, you know, fight your life through it. But majority of the time, I would know I would have off next day as well to recover,

rehydrate and all the good stuff. So I was, I did all the, all the stupid shit, the smartest way possible. I feel that. Yeah. You grinded through it even in workout. It's like if I would be hungover, like I remember a couple times where I'd be hung over, you try to have a late night and you work out the next day. And when I felt like I was on the verge of throwing up or my body feeling the way it did,

it'd be like when you're on a knee, listening to your coach talking. I'm just thinking to my head, I got it. I can't do this. Yeah. I can't like continue. Yeah, that's always the second guess.

Because when you go out, you're like, this is going to be awesome. And then when you're peak drunk, you're like, I'm going to power through tomorrow. I'm going to absolutely crush it. And the minute you wake up the next day, you're like, I can never do that again. Yeah.

But then it goes like, it's Monday. You're like, I'm not drinking. I'm living my life like a saint now. Tuesday comes by, you're like just a good old boy. Wednesday, it's like, you know, Friday is right around the corner. And it is a lot of fun. Thursday's like, all right, one more weekend and then we're solid. And then all of a sudden it's Friday, Saturday.

And then Sunday you're like, all right? You just hit that timeline perfectly. Because that's what it is. You always have like the Sunday scariest. You're like, you've rethought your entire life. And you're like, this is it. This is the day I change who I really am. And then by Friday, you're back to being the same fucking person over and over again.

I can't imagine that first offseason you had after your first year in the NFL. Because in college, it's like back when you played it was you have like a week off at most, right? Two weeks if you don't make a bowl game. Well, the best thing about it too was it was the lockout. So we weren't even allowed to have an off season that year. So I had a true six months of just doing whatever I wanted to do. So I was going absolutely bonkers. He really was.

And that's when like kind of like videos were starting to surface on the internet of me. I was back at the University of Arizona with the basketball players at a pool party, just going to ape shit. I was visiting my friends, like you said, in college, Miami, Ohio. I got to bring that place up again. I'm telling you, a spectacular place if you're a young buck. Just the atmosphere that's presented there is just phenomenal. And just everything else, I learned what Vegas was that year as well after my rookie year. But this is like, I never had the-

I never had the responsibility of going back in training, you know, up in New England because we were locked out. We weren't allowed back there for the whole six months. And then I ended up, though, showing up and absolutely ball. in training camp and having my breakout season where I scored like 21 touchdowns, including the playoffs and like broke every record as a tight end. So I guess I can contribute it to all my dancing and all my party because I was moving. Staying.

I'm talking. My stamina was up there. I was staying loose, you know, just jiggling everything on my body. Every type of motion you could possibly think of twerking to the extreme powers. Like, I swear that's what got me through was just nonstop movement. You know, you do the lifting. You know, they say you got to have that base, like, you know, the foundation of, like, your core of being loose, flexibility and stamina of the little muscles firing. And that's what got me the, you know, keep everything firing at a proper rate was all the dancing and all the movements, throwing your friends up in the air on top of lifting as well.

Yeah, when did you? Right. I swear, though. I swear. I mean, I don't really do that, really. I like try to go out and like I dance for like five minutes. And I'm like, how fuck was I dancing for three hours straight? I can dance for five minutes now.

I'm like, all right. Like I can't dance any longer anymore. When did you realize that your party and your antics could become like a massive brand? Because now you have like Grong Beach, your brother, you and your brothers, you did the cruise. So you have so many things that are evolved around a lot of things that used to get you in trouble. When did that transition happen where you're like, oh, I can actually make money doing this? You know, it kind of just happened naturally as well. It wasn't like I was doing it as like a scheme or a play or, you know, to get like...

Not a notoriety from it. Not at all, man. I was just being myself, what I've been doing since, you know, my college days and going into the NFL. It wasn't like, you know, anything was planned ever. I was just doing me. And then it just kept blowing up sometimes. And that's why I just kept doing me because I'm like, I'm just doing me. Like, I'm not doing anything wrong.

I'm just having fun, you know. And then I really noticed a couple years into it, like, all right, like, this is starting to become something because wherever I went, people expected it, you know, and it was cool. It was cool as shit. It was like, all right, I'm going out. It's going to be so turned up. But you have the energy when you're in the 20s as well to turn up the whole entire place, get on the bar, give everyone shots, all that good stuff.

And I noticed that, you know, it could possibly be a brand. Like, it's working, even though I'm just being myself. It's working. It's blowing up, you know. At the same time, though, I always knew. that balling on the field was what the real accelerator was, was what the engine was, was balling on the field because, like, this guy's absolutely fucking balling on the field, but he's going out with all the fans as well and just having a good time and going ham.

And then, you know, eventually, though, I kind of got over that kind of stigma, you know, because it was hard, you know, in your mid-20s, easily with the energy to keep up with it. But when I was starting to fade on the football field, that was becoming hard off the field too because I was starting to back away from it big time because football was, you know, starting to get away from me and I didn't want football to get away from me. So I knew I had to start changing my lifestyle big time. So I would start picking and choosing when I'm going out, how much I'm going out then and all that good stuff because I wanted, you know, to be on top of my game for football. And now to this day, you know, it is a brand, you know, like a party brand.

It really is. But I'm not even close to parting how I was partying back in the day. that 20 year old me, you know, got that brand to sustain all the way to this day. That's how ham I was going, though, back then. Yeah, and that's how much I was bawling in the field. So, you know, it's cool. Like throwing Grank Beach, I just pick and choose now. Like, Grank Beach, I'll go ham, but not like how I used to, you know. I don't want to drink as much as I used to either.

It's not good for you. It is poison, you know? I can't work out the next day. It takes three days to recover. I'm really into health, you know. now and fitness, obviously I've been my whole life, but I'm always in for a good time, but I'm more of the guy now, you know, that likes to lay back and watch what's going on and join a little bit of the action, but, you know, not go too crazy.

Not like you young self. Yeah, exactly. What were the, what were like the coaching moments like with somebody like Bill Belichick? You talk about how, like, the Patriot Way, how strict he was, how meetings could run. Like in the early days, before it becomes a brand, are there any moments you're having in facility with coach belichick before like becomes a distraction or hey your brand or being more than the team um was there like a transition there because obviously when you become gronk and you're the man you guys are winning super bowls it's a lot more accepted because you know you're the man the

patriots are you guys are winning football games but in the early years when you're coming back and these videos are surfacing is there anything happening in team meetings with coach bill uh here's the thing i always knew if i showed up in ball i would be in good hands still i'd be in good faith with the coaching staffing. Coach Belichick let a lot of things go if you were bawling on the field. He didn't care if you were out all night and showing up. As long as you produce on that football field, he let everything go. It was fine. But the second you started dropping off, oh shit, you don't want to be there. You didn't want to be in that meeting. You're getting called out. You're going to have a one-on-one meeting like, hey, what the fuck are you doing? I see you out. You can't even, you know, come out to practice and

get open versus our undrafted free agent. So he would let you know and he would eventually let you know in front of the team too. He would call you out. So that's why like you always had to be on point when you enter that facility. And that's why I believe that going to that destination, you know, kept me on the grind too. Like, yeah, that nightlife and whatever you were doing outside of football. But the second you stepped in that building, like you had that motivation and that grind like, oh, fuck.

Like I got to absolutely dominate because I was out. Everyone saw it. And if I don't produce on this field, oh, fuck, it's going to be a bad day for me. So that kind of got you to that level mindset, like, that you got a ball. Did you ever have a moment with Bill where he had to check you in a 101 or a team meeting? Not really. So Julian and I, we went out Memorial Day weekend to Narragansett. No, not Narragansett.

Nantucket's in Rhode Island. We went out to Nantucket for Fugawi weekend. We got absolutely, you know, hammered. We were on a golf cart. We were in the back. Julian and I doing our thing and the golf cart lifted up in the air, the front tires, and we landed on the ground. And it was a video that surfaced the internet.

And it was classic. And I remember the next day or three days later, we go to whatever, OTAs running routes. And Bill came up to us. And we were sweating all over. Get all that fucking shit out of your system. I saw you two idiots this weekend. You guys are fucking fools. Keep running.

Get it all out of you. So we were balling though. We were out there. But coach always got you to that mindset. Hung over and not feeling so good. When you hit that field, just the aura in New England, that got you to that mindset of whatever fuck is in your system, however you feel, yeah, you better not feel that way.

It's going to get you over it when you hit that field. You talk about the aura of New England. Right there. Is that it? Is that the golf cart? Yeah, right there. there we are too oh the back of the golf cart broke that's not good this is like two months before this season is it really yeah but justin timber lake loved it because that was the same night

we were uh yeah right there we were dancing to a song this is the same night we were dancing to his song uh got to feel it what is it got a feeling yeah got a feeling that said uh we were rocking out and then he tweeted that the same night that is ladies de grot get a playboy so shout out to and Timber. That's when I knew, all right, I got to keep going. Yeah. You see those dance moves. Now you see why I was getting over. You're staying loose out there. Yeah, you're staying loose. Look at. Shimmining all over the place.

Look at that. What is it, the shuffle? You got something going there for sure. Shimming. You talk about the aura of New England. Those first couple of years, like, what was it like for you picking up the playbook, understanding everything and knowing like what Tom wanted? Like, how demanding was Tom on you when it came to the playbook and stuff like that? bro, that's why I didn't play like my first eight games because I didn't really know the playbook like that. I had the skills. I had the talent, you know, but they didn't trust me. I even had some great, you know, highlights in the preseason that year. I had like three touchdowns, dragged Lauren Nitis into the end zone.

You're like, I showed some talent. Like I showed some bursts. I showed like what the type of player I could be. But then like practice would come still and I would be fucking up tremendously. Like I would have five great plays and I would have five terrible plays. I'd be blocking the wrong guy. I'd be running the wrong route. And when you're at that level, no matter how good you are, if they can't trust in you doing the right thing, well, you're not going to play in New England. They don't give a fuck how good you are.

They're not going to play you. And they let me know that. And the first eight games, I only had about 15 to 20 snaps per game I was playing. And it would only be the true plays that they would trust in me. They'd say, hey, here's the 20 plays that you know. We trust in you with these 20 plays. we'll call you in personnel when we're going to call these plays.

I do like 20 plays a game. And then all of a sudden, I'm bawling, though. I'm still showing that potential, you know, and they're like, we're not putting you out on that fucking field until, like, we can truly trust in you. Same with Tom, you know, coaching staff, Billy O, Bill. And then finally, like, I was struggling because the playbook was totally different from college.

Like college, I lined up on the right every single play. I had like five routes. You know, we had like five blocking plays, run place, and boom. Like, I learned the playbook in one day. I mean, you get to New England, you got a playbook like that. You got 55 different formations. I got to line up in the left. I got a line up in slot.

There's 50 different calls in the run game. I'm like, 50 different calls in the run game. Arizona, we had five different run calls, you know? Yeah. So I couldn't get up the pace. And then finally, like week eight, week nine, all of a sudden, just everything clicked. You know that feeling when you're like, okay, I got this. I know everything in the playbook.

Not everything, but like I know enough now. And then I was showing them on the. practice field like, hey, I'm consistent now. I'm bawling. Like, I'm doing the right things. And then a play, you know, I talked about plenty of times. There's, there's a play versus Chicago Bears versus Erlacker that I had to body him up. And I did it in practice on Friday. And they're like, we're going to call this play. And you got, you better be ready for it. And then it was versus Erlack. I had to, you know, get big on him in the end zone, one yard into the into the end zone, turn on him, use my body. And then boom, there's a ball.

did it in practice, replicate it in the game versus Erlacker, box them out. Tom put the ball right there and I caught it. And ever since then, the trust just went through the roof and I played every single play after that. So the playbook, you know, to you rookies out there, get in the playbook. That's the first thing. It doesn't matter how good you are if you don't know the plays. If you're thinking on the field, you're not going to play. You're not going to be the best player that you can possibly be.

So get in the playbook. and know those plays right from the beginning. What was Tom Brady like through these growing pains your rookie year? He was an asshole in my rookie year. He really was. He was like Mr. Bill Belichick's son at that time. I swear. He was Mr. Patriot at that time.

And he was on my ass so. But, you know, I see why, though. You know, I really see why. He saw the potential in me, too. I remember one time I ran a flag route, and he always wanted me to go outside of the defender. and like I didn't have the fluidity to get outside of him when he was like two yards outside of me

and try to get open. So I always try to go right inside of him, make a little move and try to get open on the flag route even though he's playing outside. And he's like, I'm never going to throw you the fucking ball. Actually, I'm never throwing you the ball ever again. He said that in the meeting room after I went,

I went inside on the flaggown. But he told me five times already to get outside. At least show that I'm trying to get outside. But I'm like, it was too hard for me at that time. Like I couldn't comprehend it. you know the way that my body was moving i just couldn't do it and then after he said that then that kind of clicked in me too like oh fuck i got to really try to show him that i'm getting outside uh and just just to have a quarterback to be that hard on you at the beginning though as a young

buck you know it can definitely deteriorate you a little bit but he saw all that potential because then right after he would say something like that he'd go stay after me with practice let's fucking let's let's run this route 20 times let's get you on the same page you have to finally click I'm going to keep going until you click. So he was really, really hard on me, but I see why and I respect it to the highest T. And I'm so glad that he was that hard on me as well, because we would have never got into the page and the chemistry that we were at if he wasn't that hard on me. And that's what makes him probably, you know, well, the greatest player of all time because it wasn't his skill set, you know, it wasn't his ability to do, you know, what he does on the football field. It was it was also the ability to bring the best out of his teammates around.

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Neutral. Keep it tasty. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Let's get back to this episode. With Tom, it seems like his two main guys throughout his career where like you and Edelman. Or just like kind of like his core guys all the time. At what point did you feel like, all right, I'm really in Tom's pack? Because a guy like that of that superstardom, Dayton models, marrying the models.

Like he seems like he's like one of the first guys in the NFL. It'll be like above the NFL. And for you to be like in that group with him. Was there like a moment where you're like, okay, I'm. I know I'm Tom's guy now. Kind of that moment, you know, my rookie year, you know, I felt like I got in the pack, like after that play versus Erlacker. But I wasn't truly in it yet.

You know, we had Wes Welker as well. I mean, Randy Moss, you know, just got traded in my rookie year. So he was in that pack as well. DM Branch got traded back. Like he was in that pack, even though he left for a little bit with the Seahawks. We had a couple other players as well that I could see that he truly trust. and that he truly looked to. And I would say I truly entered that was my second year when I blossom.

And that was my absolute goal as well. We talked about, yeah, having that lockout, but in me going ham for six months straight. But also in back of my mind, football was always there. And I always wanted to be the greatest. And I remember calling my agent Drew Rosenhouse. I said, I'm going to be the greatest fucking tight end this season. Watch. And he's like, oh, okay.

I mean, he's like, you got Antonio Gage. You got Jason Wayne. I'm like, no, I'm telling you, I'm going to be the greatest. tight end this year. Like I had that as a mindset and I'm going to be on the same page as Brady. I get what he wants now. And then going into that training camp, everything was just clicking and I entered that pack of that trust because I get that

trust from Brady and the coaching staff. You have to be a consistent fucking player. I don't care. You can show a burst of going deep and making an amazing play. But if you can do that one out of every 10, I mean, you're not in that pack. You're not going to have that trust. So I show that trust going into my seven. second year and then that's when it just all truly started clicking and it lasted for 10 more years straight

how did that uh was it always respect from tom when he's hard on you in those moments like your rookie year or you think of like yo this dude's a fucking asshole i thought he was where you're kind of resistant to like hey let's stay after practice and do 20 reps and you're just like fuck man all right no i thought he was an asshole for sure at first you know he i'm telling you he was mr patriot my rookie year like like he was he was bill 2.0 I swear. Like, I'm like, man,

this guy's zero fun. Zero fun. Like, zero. Like, but, but I kind of understood it at the same time. Not to the full extent, you know.

But once you're in the circle, like once you're growing, you're progressing, you're getting better. You're thinking, all right, this is the, this is where I need to kind of buy in.

Yes. And then once I bought in, too, he loosened up as well. Like, he just wanted me to buy in and get rid of all that bullshit that was going on.

on the outside or me not paying attention in the meetings or me not doing what I need to do out in the football field because he saw it in me. Like he sees he sees potential in players. He knows players inside and out. Like he can watch film, Tom. He can break down a player's strain. He can break down their weakness. He can break down how to get open versus what you got to do.

He can even break down a defense alignment like and know their strengths and how to block a defense alignment. He knows the game of football like that. And that's what made him so great, obviously. So he knew what I needed to do. on the football field. And when I started finally doing it, when it started clicking to me and I was starting to truly understand, that's when that relationship really blossomed. And he, you know, he was less hard on me. I mean, still, to this day, he's hard on his players. I mean, even once you

get that relationship going, because he wants that relationship to keep building, you know. But it wasn't like my rookie year, you know, a rookie year was tough at some points. But I saw why and I'm, I'm so blessed and I'm so thankful that he was like that. I needed it. Put it that way. needed it how hard was were they on uh julian edelman i just listened to bill bell check on the pivot and it seems like they were extremely harder coach belichick was extremely hard on julian when he got to new england uh well he was a year before me so i didn't really see his rookie year like that that dog is not sleep apnea he's a good boy though he knows we're working he knows we're working he feels safe yeah he feels safe he's just relaxing that's a good boy right there

so but later on if we keep going he'll eventually let us know like Hey, hey, motherfucker, humans. Hey, motherfucking humans. It's my turn. Throw me the ball. But he's a good boy. But Julian was absolute dog. And they loved getting under his skin.

If you got under Julian's skin, it brought the best out of them. And I would say same with myself, you know. And that's why they were hired on players there. Coach Balochick knew how to get into players' minds, even if it was in the most asshole way. You know, that's why we respect it so much. And we appreciate it, you know, to this day. because he was really trying to make you the best fucking player that you could possibly be.

And he was trying to bring the best out of you. And he sure did it. Even though whatever way he was doing it, you know, it could have been vicious, you know. It could have been like, you know, I'm about to trade you. Like he could have just been making it up. And then you would go absolutely balls, you know, out on the practice field and in the game. So he knew how to bring the best out of players, especially the ones that he knew wanted it. And Julian was a guy that wanted it.

And he brought the best out of Julian and whatever techniques he was doing to get under Julian skin. Dude, I mean, obviously, receiving wise, that's where you get paid. It's probably the most fun for you, but from a blocking standpoint, you see so many clips of you,

like throwing a chip buck on a trail sucks and extending them into the bleachers, the safety from the Colts on the goal line, sending him all the way to the sidelines. So if I tell him, no white t-shirts in the club, where did the mindset come with the blocking? Was it always really important to you?

Or did you learn early, like this is how you become, like a complete tight end. It was always important to me. Ever since my high school days playing football, I always just took pride in the blocking game. I really did. I remember in high school,

it was before like all the blindside blocks, you know, got banned, which was a good thing, you know, what I'm talking to those crack black blocks. You took more pride in high school when you absolutely leveled someone

than, say, scoring a touchdown. I'm talking the touchdown was cool. You celebrated, but the whole sideline would go. absolutely bonkers. If you took someone up and just planted them on the ground or you blindsided someone and just flat blacked them and basically put them in the hospital.

So that mindset was always there to just be the biggest dog, to be the strongest dog out in the field and to be tossing people around. Tossing people around felt like the manly thing to be in the game of football. Yeah, catching touchdowns was cool. That came with it,

but that wasn't what you wanted to showcase. It was how far can you take someone? and just embarrass them and just show them who the fuck is boss. So that started, you know, in high school. Maybe I would say as a kid, though, that toughness because I was getting beat the shit out of from my three older brothers and their friends at all times. And they would pick on me and I would just come right back at them.

So that mindset started then. And then in high school, my senior year, I only had eight catches my senior year in high school as a tight end. And we ran the ball 52 out of 52 plays one time. And it didn't matter because we were dominating. And we won the game like 30 nothing. I would just take guys, drive them back, five yards, plan them.

I one time in high school, picked up a guy, brought him off the sidelines, 10 yards, and threw him over the fence. It was kind of like the play, the Sergio Brown play, but instead I took the guy up in the air of 10 yards and threw him over the fence.

This one right? Yeah, just like that one. But then I took the guy and threw him over the fence in high school. And we just took so much pride in that. Like, it wasn't about catches. It wasn't about touchdown. So that translated into college.

And everyone respected it. Everyone respected me a lot more because I wasn't the guy just looking for touchdowns. I was the guy when it came to whatever, seven on seven. What's it called? Nine on seven. Nine on seven run period that I'd be showing up. And it was all about how bad ass can you be in the run game and how, you know, how hard can you block the D.N and make a hole for your running back.

Dude, there is something about having a tied end that knows how to do like a tray block or a triple block. And knows where the right fit is, where to put his hands. It makes your life so much easier. It's the best feeling, dude. And to this day, you know, when people show my highlights, I don't give a fuck. Like the catching highlights and touchdowns. I'm like, cool, whatever. I won't even look.

I'll be like, that's cool. But when I see a blocking play of mine, I fucking rewind that thing every time. Yeah. Every single time. You get rock hard on just watching that. I remember Stephen Ridley. He was running back. My good friend, he beat Kevin Hart in a race like two years ago.

And Kevin Hart blew out his hamstring. So the NFL, do you guys remember that a little bit? No, he blew out his abdominal. And then the NFL was, you know, showed, oh, ex-player Stephen Ridley, you know, blows away Kevin Hart in a race. Kevin Hart blows abdominal. So then what did they do? The NFL took all of Stephen Ridley's highlights and they put them up on NFL.com or whatever, their Instagram page. And guess what?

Their eye was blocking. And I sent it to Ridley, I said, look at that motherfucker block for you. I'm like, I love the blocking. highlights and I'm I'm like surprised with myself because I don't really remember like it was just a natural thing I would do you know and I didn't really notice how important it really was it was just part of my personality like that's what I did I blocked but when I go back and I watch me block like when I was in my heyday like the first four years man I was fucking tossing motherfuckers dude and I didn't really realize it that I was really doing it like that like I was doing it like that so I'll always

rewind a block and I'll always make sure that people see all the blacks when they're up on the TV screen. Catch us whatever. With the game, were you a guy that like talk shit during game or you kind of just keep to yourself and if somebody talks shit to you, you'd turn it up on them a little bit. There we go. I love when people talk shit to me like brought me to a whole other level and that's what happened with the Sergio. That's what I was going to ask next. The whole entire game just yapping at me. We're friends. Like we were friends like in New England. I'm like bro like I'm getting open on you guys too. And we're dominating you put just kept going and going and going. And finally he just triggered me. And I just was like, I'm going, the next block and play I get, I'm going to just fucking keep going and going and going.

How long was that? I'm going to, I'm going to get him when I get the chance. He was just chirping. He was chirping. He was chirping the whole time. Yeah. And there was Dable. You saw Dable there.

Yeah, he loved it too. There he is. Right there. Dave. Oh, he was. He's tripping out. Oh, yeah. Good shit.

Gunk. How many plays? So this guy's chirping at you, getting after you, saying whatever. How many, how long after was that block for you? Where you're like, okay, I'm going to take this kid today. absolute silent oh i was going i didn't care if i i knew the play was over too like i saw um the running back scored a touchdown oh shit what's the name again he had three touchdowns that came in like 250 yards you said like 50 running backs yeah no yeah and then we cut him like two weeks

later because uh jonas yeah jonas love him though jonas gray i love like so many running backs i just couldn't think of who it was you guys had a shot of the running backs i saw him score right behind me too and i was like fuck this i'm still going i was just over him he was just talking the whole time and I just like I'm gonna I'm just gonna go until he collapses and then boom finally got that juice is right that right there is why I never wanted to talk shit yeah just to like if you're going against a good player you're just I'm always like complimenting I'm complimenting the great hey great dude yeah I hated that I'm like this guy's too nice like I don't want to it's not it's not all it's not all it's when you have a lax just like hey you're playing a hell

of a game out here just to like you never want that trigger to go all right you're on somebody because you just never fucking know you ain't trying to be on a highlight no i feel you i mean you're wrong how do you feel about this oh man look at that that's a that's a that's a that's you 51 correct yeah yeah you got me solo tackle but that's a nice uh flat route though look at the speed i had back that side i wish i had that speed still though man look at me come out of the back was that coming out of the back field or was that just a flat route that's at the tight eye position or that yeah i'm flying right there. See, I out angled you. That's how fast I was back then. That should have been.

If you were playing true technique football as a lineback, that should have been a two-yard cat. You're 100% right. I just, I just beat the zone. Beat the zone. I think we were a man there. Yeah. So it makes it even worse. It's a worse. But you made up for it. You made up, oh, right there. Look at

it should have only been four yards, but Will couldn't close the gap fast. Holy shit. I'm on the same page still. And that That was June 23rd, 2003. All right. So that wasn't that long ago. But still. That was a nice tackle.

He got me one on one. There's a photo. A lot of other men have failed trying to do this. Oh, 100%. There's a photo where it's captured from Rob's angle to where it looks like he just, I mean, he does stiff arm me. But it looks like they have a great angle

to where that should, you get like posterized for getting stiff on. Now, I know, I know Gronk's a guest on our show, but if you're in man coverage, are you fearful of this man? because he's not like he wasn't the shiftyest guy in the world and you had some speed back then

this is a young Wisconsin day he's massive big as long you know he's yeah you know he uses the stiff arm well so yeah absolutely oh yeah there it is look at that pick

oh man you still got me though I see that picking I'm still got me you gotta break that down you gotta break that down and I got to chop and I got a chop

I was on the sideline so I knew that you had sileline help so I didn't really try my heart I mean you I mean you had silent I wanted you I wanted you to catch the ball because I wanted to pad my stats.

Yeah. Was there a... It worked for both of us. First down, but you got to tackle. Solo tackle too. Right. Pull on the film. But we got to fix the angle here a little bit. But hey, way to get him down when he got them. A lot of guys fail on that step on.

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What was it like around Aaron Hernandez? I was just going to get into that. Oh, really? Like in your mind, are you like, all the stuff that comes out about them now, like going back to those moments around them, are you kind of thinking your head? like I'm not in his world too much, but there's like some,

there's like some shit that this guy's into off the field that I don't necessarily even want to know. Because there was, we heard stories about like him being in the team meeting room like beating off and like doing crazy shit. I mean. And honestly,

if you don't want to talk about, we don't have to. Possibly. That's a possibility of that one. Yeah. I may or may have not seen it live. No shit. Yeah.

I'm not going to comply. Yeah. At the time you're just thinking yourself, man, Or deny. But, uh, I mean, I love crazy shit, though. So like, I, I, I didn't mind things like that. I was like, wow.

Like, that was pretty epic. Like, I was a wild man myself. So like, I was like, nothing fazed me. I was like, I encouraged it. But like, never, I mean, I mean, first off, unbelievable football player, man. You're talking about the playbook, me struggling with the playbook? That guy knew the plays inside and out. run game and pass game and like the first two weeks being in New England while I struggled with

it all the way until like week eight you know and he was bawling right from the beginning he was a basketball player out on the football field that's what he was with his size he could run he was he was at one point he was lining up at running back and having 30 plus yards runs while I was black I mean you guys could be a 12 personnel and be in any type of formation yes you're the best combination at the tight end position of all time and that second year proves it I mean we had like what 2300 yards combined in like 28 touchdowns between just him and I, including playoffs and regular season. That's unheard of. Like they ain't no other tight end combo ever going to have 1,500 yards combined like ever again possibly or maybe like 1,600 yards. So we went like 2,800 and like

28 touchdowns, which is just absurd. But there's a lot of craziness definitely. But I didn't mind it. Like I said, I loved it. And then I didn't see. you know, it going to the level that it went to. I didn't see that happening. Like, that was a surprise. It was a surprise to everyone because you would never expect anyone, you know, especially being in that position to have it go to the level that it went to. And you're learning about this stuff with when all the, whether it's documentary shows coming out about it,

you're learning that then and you're like, fuck, I didn't really know it was that bad. I didn't know it was that bad. I mean, I knew that, you know, there was definitely some wild-sized. to him. But with everything coming out, there's some that I would say is true in the documentaries that come out. There's some that's probably exaggerated a little bit, but there's some that's not exaggerated at all either. I'm not going to talk about what topics it was and everything, but I mean, it was wild, man. I was the guy that was truly there throughout his whole career, like in the same room, the whole entire time is him. But it's unfortunate, though, what happened, because

the talent was just just through the roof man through the roof and if we could have kept our tandem going yeah we would have been just truly unstoppable but uh yeah that's really all i got on that yeah yeah saw saw some of it but you didn't know it was like to that extreme and not surprise either now either like it's like okay that makes sense now yeah yeah when you guys were at practice he got charged when you guys were at practice or like the like you guys practiced that day correct No, it was an off season. It was actually, it was, yeah, it was during the summer when no one was actually at the facility. And what, like, when you...

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You found out, were you like, at first like, there's no way this is possible? Or were you like, that's a tough question to ask? What was your thought process when you heard he was charged? Well, he didn't get charged until like after the fact that it all came out, correct? Yeah. So like when I first, kind of like, what was the thought process when I first heard about? You know, the situation, the real situation where it was like, all right, this is trouble. You know, surprised, shot, big time, sad a little bit.

Like, no way. Like, also disappointed, you know, like, why would you do that? Like, like, what's going on? We got the whole world in front of us. We got the world by the balls, especially, you know, you and I as a tandem. I'm like, we got the best team out there, everything. So it was shocking, you know. Yeah.

It was sad as well, you know, once you really realize what truly happened. Yeah. Yeah, man. How was Bill Belichick, aside from what you get to see, whether he's in press conferences, the coaching side, the art of winning book, like, what's he like kind of off the field or away? Because I think there's a story where he showed up hammered to Randy Moss's one of his costume parties or like a Halloween party.

A Halloween party. Yeah, like, what's a, what's a, what's a nice? What's a fun side of Bill Belichick? All right. Here's something that a lot of people really don't know is that he never really cracks jokes, you know, and he's always got that serious face in team meetings. But every once in a while,

like once every two weeks, he would just come in with an absolute fucking banger, bro. I'm talking banger. And he would actually have a smile on his face right after. He would just drop some knowledge or some, you know, over-the-top joke that just landed every time with the team. And everyone would just be on the ground. this fucking dying laughing.

It was so, it was always vicious too. The Joker or whatever, the knowledge was always vicious. But when he came in with that, it always lightened the mood. It was every, it was once in the blue moon. But when he did do that, man, it was good shit. We all appreciated it. You ever get to, you ever party with Bill? He ever partaking the Grancowski dances?

Actually, he showed up to the first Grunk Beach ever when I first retired. It was in Miami. It was at that Super Bowl, like five, six years ago. And he showed up to that Grunk Beach, which was really cool. than that he was there for like five minutes he's like yeah this is it really for me yeah just him showing face i've meant a lot show and face really did mean a lot you'll get the shirt off let's go yeah he's great but he i think he loves he loves the party scene more than ever right now actually yeah yeah he's got to him at parties i mean he's not like he's rocking out i mean but he's there

you know he's doing his thing and you know he's loosened up big time ever since he he left being a head coach in the NFL, which is cool to see. Were you surprised about that, him loosening up after he became a head coach, after he left the NFL? Definitely, definitely surprised. I thought he would keep that mantra even, like, going on to whatever, you know, he was going to do next after the NFL. I'm sure he probably has that mantra while coaching, you know, the tar heels.

But like on the outside of everything else, I was definitely surprised when he started joining, you know, social media, you know, he joined the media game and he was more loose, you know, cracking more jokes, smiling more. when he was making all his appearances on all the shows that he was on. But it was really good to see. Like, I was happy for him. And, you know, it was a different side that everyone got to see, too. But the knowledge he drops as well is always accurate, too.

Knows the game of football inside and out better than anyone else out there. What's it like seeing all the headlines with the Jordan stuff with knowing coach Belichick as this no-nonsense coach and seeing all the, like, the theatrics that have kind of came with on the outside looking in, like with him at North Carolina. A guy that's all about eliminating distractions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. So that's a little surprising to me because he was all about eliminating distractions.

And like it's kind of, I mean, we can't really say if it's a distraction yet or not because, well, no, in the win-loss column this year. Yeah. If he wins every game or puts up eight wins this year at UNC, well, then there was no distractions at all. The distractions sometimes. He might actually, yeah, he's a true goat. Sometimes it fuels him. I mean, how much, you know, crazy shit did he deal with in New England from, you know, you know, Tom's things, to Hernandez, to me, you know, in some situations to just a lot of

other things that was going on. And we would just go out there and win constantly at a, you know, at a rate that's never been seen before and win Super Bowls, even though there was things going on the outside, you know, that didn't, you know, that we're trying to distract us, but wouldn't get to us because we would block it all out. But still, if there was something going on and it was just like just bickering you know at at the team and like everyone had to deal with it he would kind of say something you know like hey kind of like amp it down a little bit you know like you have the one-on-one media yeah like this is going on like can you just kind of diffuse the situation so i kind of feel like he's not diffusing the situation at all when it could be

diffused a little bit more and it's becoming a distraction to the whole entire program at the University of North Carolina a little bit. So it kind of goes against that. But like we said, he's also loosened up tremendously. And he's kind of a, you know, change, you know, personality since being a coach in the NFL. But just overall, I think like football needs to come. Once football comes, you know, I'm excited to see how all that goes, you know. I'm kind of getting annoyed about all these other things that talked about with Bill right now. It's like, let's see this guy coach, you know. If this guy dominates, well, then let it be.

Yeah. And if he loses out right from the beginning and he's one and three, that could be a serious problem. Yeah, if he starts out one and three, you need to fly up to North Carolina and have a one-on-one meeting with him. Yeah, we've got to eliminate these distractions. I'll have a university North Carolina hire me as like the fucking president of all sports. Yeah.

Just so I could be his boss. Don't tell Bill. like, hey, the president wants to meet you, you're in there and be like, best it out. I'm your boss. I'm sorry, brother. Him, Gronk, Tom, and Edelman all fly in. All above them here.

They all have to be above them. Bringing into a meeting room. Eliminate the distractions. Yeah. Come on now. What are we doing out here? Yeah. Yeah.

You want to win or not? Yeah. We'll see. We'll see what happens, you know? Yeah. We'll see what happens. One and three will be taking that job. I'm pulling from the win.

I did. I hope North Carolina plays well too. It'll be great for football. Yeah. It'll be like the Dion effect, you know? Yeah. Like how much better? Like no one watched Colorado.

It's like no one watched UNC. Like everyone tuned in. Everyone will be tuned into UNC for sure. When Tom and Bill end up breaking up, Tom, you go with Tom to Tampa Bay. From your vantage point, what did you see happening there on the inside between their relationship? Because you were saying in the beginning of your career, Tom's sitting there as baby Bill Belichick. He's Bill Belichick's son essentially. And then they get to the end.

You hear about how they're not really getting along, cultural. they think that they're going different directions. Tom inevitably, you guys lose to the Titans in 2019, ending your dynasty. And then we- I was retired. You're right. That's why ended the dynasty. Do you think so?

You think you would have won that way. What do you see happening between them and that breakup? Well, yeah, like I said, I mean, I was surprised. I mean, if you go all the way back to my rookie year, it was definitely like a different mindset or positioning that Tom was. in like he like i said he was like bill bellichick son my rookie year but i would say i mean i really can't talk for tom or bill like on how the relationship but i would just say what kind of really happened was that tom was probably growing older you know and was like you know wanted to freelance

more i would say doesn't have to be treated like a rookie and it was still going on uh and i would say he was getting over that situation even though it was kind of like that you know my rookie year yeah and he he was you know guys 35 years old now 36 and doesn't need to be treated like arguably the goal yeah probably already the greatest of all time it doesn't need to be treated like a rookie you know and I would say the tension started feuding over things like in that situation between them two that's kind of like how I how I saw in a way and then eventually neither of them we're gonna you know you know twitch or yeah like been the need

or bend the knee, yeah, bend the knee. So the tension just started heating up, I would say, and eventually, you know, the divorce happened. But for details or what they were truly thinking, you would have to ask one of them. But from an outside perspective, like player, I would say that's kind of how the case, you know, kind of started and ended.

When those topics are getting talked about in the media, is it when we're like, oh, yeah, this was going to come to the surface sooner or later? Yeah. And then it's also like, wow, it took that long for it to come to the surface as well. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes the media is right.

It's like, wow, it took them that long. But then sometimes it's like, wait, they're already way ahead of the game. How do they already know that? It was that that was already coming to the service or they would come up with something that wasn't even up to the surface and it was never going to come up to the surface. But there's some things where it's like, whoa, it took them that long and you're surprised. You know, now with media these days when media doesn't catch on to something and it takes a while to get out. You're surprised with that. Yeah.

What were the conversations that took place to get you out of retirement and into Tampa? Well, everything had to, you know, check out for me. It wasn't just one situation that was going to, you know, get me out of retirement. First off, I had to be feeling good again. I was really beat up, you know, those last two years in New England. And it was getting tough on me, you know, playing on a weekly basis. Like the Sunday game, I couldn't recover until like Saturday, the following Saturday. And then to practice and all that, it was just becoming miserable.

I mean, everyone experiences that. And that's why everyone retires eventually. Because if you weren't experiencing that and you were experiencing the joy of playing like when you were in 23, why don't what would you retire? You know what I mean? So when it starts getting miserable and hard, you know, that's when you want to walk away from the game. And that's what I did. But I was really beat up too.

But I was like, you know, you're kind of evolving, you know, throughout your whole career. I involved, found different situations, you know, to recover. Also different workouts, you know, that can keep me on top of my game. I also kind of needed a different scenario, you know, different program. You know, so when Tom went to Tampa, we just talked about it a little bit. My mom lived down there. I love Florida. Totally different organization.

Felt more laid back. Definitely put the work in, but still more laid back like a country club. They wanted me as well, Tampa. It wasn't just Tom wanted me. The organization called me up too. And they're like, yeah, we definitely want you. They'll be a part, you know, of the Buccaneers family. I was feeling good as well and felt like I was.

I had more left in the tank. So every box checked off. And then obviously with Tom going down there to have that chemistry and just keep it going in the new program. So everything just, you know, pled my way. And I pulled the trigger to do it. And it seems it sounds like they're willing to like cater around your expectation what you wanted physically to like what your body needed,

what you needed as how old are you at this time? I was 30 years old. Yeah, it's like a 30 year old tight end. was back in New England when you decided to retire, you talk about the joy and it just, you hated showing up to work, was a lot of it to the expectation and the stress that would come with the organization of the Patriots, like the standard that had lived and they expected you to live by, when you're like, hey, I feel like my body would respond better doing this, or I feel like I should be doing this workouts because a lot of times you butt heads with those third party sources

that we all use outside of the facility and then you try to implement them inside and the whole eagle battle kind of like butts heads yeah you hit it right on the money bro you uh i mean like you said you played for a while so you understand that and every player kind of goes through that experience too uh but uh in a way like i like in new england like coaches never gave off anyone from practice but like at end of my career i was like i can't be playing in a game on sunday and practice full speed wednesday thursday friday like i'm blocking guys think about what i'm doing i'm running 35 routes a game as well like a wide receiver and I'm trying to block three you know 300 pounders sometimes dns that are 260 pounds linebackers that are running all over the place on a continuous basis every single

place so my energy and effort and output is higher than anyone else out there on the football field if you really think about it because of the routes I got to run and also the being shaped blocking and I just couldn't recover anymore like Wednesday would come and I wouldn't even want to hit anyone in the nine on seven I'd be like yo like I'm just going to put my hand in front of you you know you know know like I didn't even want to hit like that's that's a bad feeling you don't want to get hit and you're playing the game of football but like if I took off like by like Thursday or Friday like I was able to do it again like have that mindset like oh I'm ready to hit but like no no one would get off in practice or anything so it was getting tough like that mentality that aura in New England like I wanted a day off of practice and all that but it was just tough and it was tough to ask for it too because of the expectations right so when I got the tampa like you're letting the team down you're feeling him Exactly. But when I got the Tampa, they were kind of known like, hey, we're going to, we give vets a day off.

Like, you got to be truly proven though. Like, and I was proven at that time. And I was like, can I at least get one day off a week? And every, in training camp, every three days, I get off too. And they were down for it. They were down for it. I bet you could have probably negotiated more coming out of retirement. Yeah.

You'd have been like, yeah. I didn't need more, though. But also with the mindset of coming from New England, you kind of feel like you're letting the team down as well if you're taking off too much, you know, especially if you're not. injured or, you know, rehabbing an injury. But I was cool with it with my mindset, because I truly knew that I couldn't practice every single day and then be fully ready for a game on Sunday. And they gave me off every Friday, my two years in Tampa, which I'm thankful for, which, you know, I put the work in, you know, Wednesday, Thursday. But I truly believe that's what got me to play and got me, you know, to be able to play at the level I play. It wasn't the highest level of football

that I could possibly play out like I was. But like to play at the highest level at that age and where I was, taking off that Friday to at least make an impact on the field. Right. Well, it got you that incentive too. Yeah. Because there was that clip that came out of you going up to Tom being like, hey, I need one more. Yes.

And so you were pulled out of that game, correct? And you're like, I need to go back in. Yeah, well, we were, we were wamping them. It was like the third quarter. We were up like 35 nothing or 357. So they pulled out of starters. But Tampa's cool, you know. They're cool like that.

They want you to make all the possible money that you can make. our offensive corner of Byron left, which always said in the meeting, there's two things that you take away from football on the end. He goes, it's your relationships and it's the money that you make. That's the two things that stick with you forever. And he says, so going in, he goes, if we're up, obviously the most important thing is to win the game. But if we're up and you need an extra catch, we're going to get you that extra catch. We're going to get you that money. That's awesome.

So we were winning. They pulled all the starters, but Tom was like, hey, we got to get one more catch. We drew a play right on the sideline. Hey, Rob, motion across. you're just going to run a diagonal. I'm going to hit you and boom. Motion across. I actually fall started,

but they didn't get called where you lean forward a little bit. Yeah. What's that called again? What's the penalty? Illegal motion? Yeah, but you where you accidentally move forward a little bit on the motion. That's a penalty.

You're not allowed to move forward. Is that just a false start then? It is a false start, but there's a name for it. I can't think about it right now. But I did that actually, but they didn't call it because it was the game was just way out of reach. Ran that. diagonal boom time hit me was that 700 it was uh it was uh my i needed i think like 55 catches or something that was my 55 catch to hit my last incentive in my contract yeah so tampo's cool cool like

that yeah did you ever have incentive based stuff in your contracts in new england yes never did you ever miss one uh my last year in new england i basically missed them all but my second last year new England, I hit them all. Did you really? So I bet on myself again going into that last year, but halfway through, halfway through, I didn't even care about him anymore. I was just like, I got to survive, dude. I'm just trying to survive here.

Yeah. What was it the most on you towards the end? Like, from your body standpoint, I had to survive this. It was a shoulder, was your back active again? It was inflammation in my body, bro. Insert Adam Bobo. Yeah, inflammation, dude. Like, it wasn't anything nag, well, my back was

nagging a lot, but I was in flame. But like, like, I still have it to this day a little bit. Like, if I go ham one day, two days later, like, I can't move. Like, I'm inflamed. Like, I'm slow. I kind of actually have it a little bit today. I haven't worked down like two weeks. I did a hardcore yoga like 48 hours ago exactly. And like I didn't go too hard in it because I knew I was coming on. But when I get inflamed, like I'm slower. Like, I can't run as fast. And I was like, I couldn't recover fast enough and get rid of that inflammation. Even though I started finding ways do it. It's just at that rapid rate and I was so far behind that just that slowness just that not that burst anymore. You don't have that quickness either anymore and it just doesn't want to make you

get hit either. Everything hurts then too. So inflammation was, you know, my biggest killer I would say. Is there a story outside of what you've already talked about in past conversations where you were going to get traded to Detroit? You threatened to retire. They don't trade you. But was there a story behind the scenes about how the organization was kind of handling your situation that isn't known or that you haven't kind of talked about because everybody's aware that you did the whole threaten to retire they don't trade you're back in new england well that was a tough year we lost to the philadelphia eagles that year actually in the super bowl after we after the comeback uh versus falcons so we went back to back super bowls we're actually almost three peter we went to three

super bowls in a row but we just lost the middle one versus the eagles but that year was tough man i'm talking just the aura of the organization. I don't think anyone really enjoyed that season. I'm talking like any player. Like it was just weird, but we were dominating. We were still winning. And we went to the Super Bowl. But just overall, it was, it was tough. And what was the question again? About when they were going to, they were going to trade you to Detroit. And then you threatened to retire. Now I say that that's why I was bringing that up. So that whole year, so then I was being an asshole after that year, you know, like they were trying to get a hold of me. I wasn't answering anything. I was saying shit in the media. I was just being a

complete asshole. And then I'm with Monster Energy and Monster Energy has Monster Jam and uh, at the, at New England at Gillette Stadium. And I still haven't talked to anyone in the organization. I was kind of vocal in the media like this year sucked like kind of shit like that like miserable here. Like I was one of those guys like like. And that was like the aura of any where everyone was saying it sucks to play in New England. Like there was those at one or two years. That was. That was when the Eagles players were going to the parade and like ripping on the organization. Like, yeah. I was one of the guys like saying it sucks to play there like that year.

Like it was just a tough year just overall. So then I was being an asshole. I go to Monster Jam and I have to have a press conference there. And it's all the full, like for my monsters like, hey, like you got to do the appearance at Monster Jam. And I was like, oh, shit. I was like, this ain't going to go over so well. So I show up to the press conference and the whole uniform.

Like I'm a freaking dirt bike rider with the helmet on. I go up to the press conference and they just start asking me football questions right away. And I'm just giving fucking blatant, like asshole answers back. And then a week later is when I get the phone call and finally I answer, hey, we're going to trade you. And I never wanted to get traded. Actually, I knew it was going to come down to this though because of what I was doing. It was the counter reaction, you know, the organization was doing back to me like,

oh, he wants to be an asshole. Well, we're going to get rid of them. And that's when Patricia was the head coach at the Lions too. And he's like, all right. Well, I'm going to grab Gronk then. I'm going to trade for him. And I got the call. I got traded.

But I was prepared. I was fucking prepared. I knew the phone call was going to come. I knew I was going to get traded. I was prepared. Hey, Rob, we're going to trade you to the Lions. I said, you can't trade a retired player. Yeah, right on this spot.

I was like, can't trade me. I'm retired. Like, I just retired. Like, you can't trade my agents. Like, you're a genius, Drew. He's like, I never been in this situation before. And then finally, Bill was like, well, then what the fuck's the problem? I went in, we hashed everything out.

I was like, the train never went through then. It got axed. It would have been through if I said, no problem. But I ended up playing one more year knowing. I was like, I was like business isn't done. Like I'm just being an asshole a little bit. Business not done. Let's do one more year.

I'm so glad I went back. I was actually about to retire though, too. I was really thinking about it. But I didn't feel right going to another. team. Not at all. I was like, I'm not going to end it with another team. I'll do another year in New England. And we ended up winning the Super Bowl. And that was my last game in New England, winning that Super Bowl, I think 53 in Atlanta versus Los Angeles Rams. And it ended with that catch up the middle, the 28-yard bomb up the seam to the two-yard line.

And then Sony Michelle ran the ball right behind me in for the only touchdown of the game. So it all worked out in the end. Yeah, man. What made that year with Philadelphia so hard? Was the expectation coming off the prior Super Bowl? But no, I was beat up a little bit still. My body wasn't responding how I wanted it to. But just aura. Yeah. Yeah.

It was that, no, the last year going in was a lot better than that Philadelphia season. I remember everyone just was pissed. Yeah. I remember. I mean, it's just hard to explain. Like, what, like, what, like, why? Like, you just had to be a part of it. Yeah.

Yeah. Dude, off the field. Let's go. I like off the field shit. You've done a lot of cameos. Yes, I have. Entrash family guy, the clapper. It sounds like a venereal disease.

The clapper. That's what Well had when he was in a comedy. That's why they beat us so bad in the holiday bowl. We were staying away from them. These guys have to clap. But dude, you've done all of these different SpongeBob Squarepants. You got to stay. Spongobbub Squarepants still gives me residual checks for like two grand.

No shit. Every like four months. I mean, the show is unbelievable. I love it. And I'm like, when did I do SpongeBob Squarepants? I remember I sang the birthday song in one of the episodes. I still get residual checks from it. That is fucking awesome.

Of all these cameos that you've done, what was like the thing you were most excited for? Now, do people call you and be like, hey, we want Gronk to do this cameo? Or were you ever like calling your age of me and like, I heard this movie's coming out. I heard the show. I love the show.

How I met your mother. I want to be a part of this. Kind of both. You know, especially at first. I wanted to be a part of cameos. Like I wanted to live that lifestyle. Like I said, I wasn't saying no going to the draft.

any uh that movie with jamy fox was at any given sunday or right i love that movie like i'm like i want to live like that they were part in the locker room after doing all that good shit you know i wanted to live like a movie so i was just telling my people like oh i'll do any appearance and whatever movie and then my very first one actually basically was the entourage movie loved entourage growing up as a kid wanted to live my life like that when i was in uh high school and i told my friends in high school too i'm gonna be on that show one fucking day watch and that And I ended up getting in the movie, which was really, really cool. And definitely, I would say that was one of my favorite appearances.

Because what's funny is I was right in my prime of party. And so I actually got to this set and I started taking shots with everyone because it was like 1130 p.m. at night. And I was going out that night. So I started getting hammered on the spot. And in the scene, I'm partying in the scene. So it worked out perfect. Yeah. I was actually hammered for that scene right there.

Was that, that was that line ad-lib when you stood up and screamed? No, no, they gave it. to me. But I took it to another level. Yeah. Yeah. With his shoulder too and a sling is just crazy. I was super handicapped. I was actually coming off the knee injury, so I was actually had an, you know, ACL surgery three months

prior to that, but then we also put the arm brace on like my arm was still freaking broken. Yeah. I was had a cane as well. It just just went along well. What was it like seeing Vinnie Chase and Johnny drama and all those boys after watching that show for so long and being able to see them it was the best dude i love them to this day i see him at charity events and everything and seeing drama i love drama uh his character and just drama as well as a person dude great dude it was the best uh to be us be a part of it you know the dream come true yeah dream come true dude all this stuff there we are all this stuff we are wow what pictures right there's the set

the fit door on that's so fucking young rob mhm a hontrose really was that show that if you watched it you wanted to be veneer. Chase. You'd be like, how do I have the ability to live this life? Well, Vinny Chase was like too pretty and like I knew I couldn't be Vinny Chase. I was kind of like, I just wanted, I just want to have a group like that, you know? A group of boys that grew up boys like that. Because I was kind of like Vinny Chase, but I was more of like Johnny Drama in a way. I was like them combined, you know, like. Yeah, I got you. Mm-hmm. Dude, that show, you got to watch that show. I know. I've seen You never seen the show. I've seen the show. You're never seen the show? No, bro.

Oh, man. You see the movie, too. There's so many calls about it. And the show blows away the movie, though. Like, absolutely blows away. I know. Is he maybe the best character of all time, written character? Best character, dude.

God. By far. Drama, you know, competes with it. But Ari is just phenomenal. Dude, I don't think anybody touches Ari in this show. He is so outstanding. My drama, Taylor? He's all right.

I knew, I saw you looking at me, too. I got the French. He's pissed off because I step out of the batters box in baseball. we can't yeah wasn't a huge fan of drum you're not wasn't a huge fan no no no this is well that's why I like you a lot more man that's why I'm on the show for you will fuck yeah dude uh all the stuff that you've done off the field it's it's rumored that you never spent a dollar of your NFL earnings is that true uh technically it's not true uh well it actually started working because uh Drew gave me a $50,000 technically it's not true technically it is

Technically, it is true. Okay. Yes. Did I say it's not true? Yeah, you said technically. Oh, well, technically I was wrong there. But technically it's true. I meant it's true. Drew Rosenhaus actually gave me a $50,000 up front like marketing budget at the beginning. And you got to pay them back over the time the first 50 grand you made. So I actually took that 50 grand. I bought me a car. You know, I paid for my spot up in New England actually with it. And then as I was getting a couple deals, I paid them off. But just overall, you know, I actually, I'm very frugal, you know, and live, you know, with a roommate my first couple of years. I didn't know how long the NFL was going to last. I was a second round pick. So it was like a four year, four million dollar deal. And I was like, if I played this contract out, I'll be set for life.

I got $2 million in my bank. I can make $100,000, $200,000 of interest. I was like, if I only play three, four years, I'm good. And I wanted that situation for me, too, that I could be good as well. Like, hey, if I don't ball, if I'm not the player, you know, that I think I could be. whatever, I'm still set for life because $2 million in the bank is set for life to me, you know, at that time. So I just always wanted to save it and I just used my money that I was getting off the field

to just spend it on whatever I needed to spend it on. And then therefore, it just kept continuing. And to this day, technically I have not spent any of my NFL money. In the crazy how when you're young, you have the mindset, like if I'll have $2 million, I'll be set for life. And I know obviously $2 million is a lot of money, but as time goes and you get older, and your lifestyle that you do have,

you're like, oh, fuck, $2 million. Two million wouldn't get me very far if I continue to, like, live the way you think you can live when you first sign a deal for like four years, $4 million. Yeah, it's scary how there's always a new level to it. Like you think if I can get to this point, that's all I need, blah, blah, but then you get to that point and you're like, what is this? What's going on here?

There's a private aviation you can get on a plane and just kind of go where you want. That's pretty crazy. And always just it's always changing It's always yeah I told you he's gonna be quiet The whole entire time He's gonna let us know when it's his turn

And now he's letting us know it's his turn All right But buddy buddy we still got a little bit longer Just a little bit longer We'll give us 10 buddy Give us a little bit longer buddy I told you though I call him I know this guy way too well

Yeah See come up here What you think about all of raves in New England I think that's I mean I was waiting for this subject to come up actually because you guys know raves you guys both played for him but i think that's the perfect fit you know for new england overall just for the organization for the fan base for the craft family uh you know i just love his mantra i love what he stands for i never really met brable before just for a quick second i've heard plenty of stories of him because he was that first era

of being a you know a patriot and winning all the super bowls but uh just to see the way he progressed as a coach too that's why he's such a good fit too for new england because he's that's he's established. He put his time in as a player, put his time in as a coach going to Ohio State, working his way up, going to Houston as like what, D.C. or whatever. Is it D.C.? Then getting the head. So he took a step every single way to get to where he is. And I think he just has the personality just from just seeing it and just hearing from other players that I think he's the truest, perfect fit possible for the second era, you know, after Bill Belichick. And what they're doing so far,

in New England, I mean, you can't really argue with any of the moves that they have made so far. I think they have made every move, you know, correctly with the draft, with who they took all the way from free agency. They had all that money. They went and got the guys they needed to get for the positions they needed to get. You never know, though, like when you make a team out of free agency, you never know how it's going to be. Yeah, it's got to gel. But with a guy like Vrabel, I feel like he can gel him because he's a guy that can gel people from, I mean, he played offense before special teams defense like those guys know how to gel he'll tell you he'll tell you he'll tell he'll tell you he'll tell you he'll tell you he'll tell you he'll tell you i mean 14 years in the NFL and he's

been a guy on every part of the entire roster i mean if you look at like the titans in 2021 i think they set a record for the most players play because of all the injuries and we were the number one seed going into playoffs obviously we lost the first round we played but that that shows a guy that can gel his team and really i think it just depends on drake may if drake may can show up in a big way a step from year one to your two like the Patriots could be good actually good with all the with all the free agency acquisitions i'm going on record to say that they're making the playoffs this year as well i i don't think you know that they may they have a chance at the division but the bill is sure and pull the afc but it's it's a fc dolphins are going to dolphin you know they're going to

look beautiful real quick out of the water and they're going to sink back down you know the jets yeah i mean we know they're just too far away still i mean uh And then bills are good. They're established. They're going to obviously be the dominant. But I think Patriots, they can sneak into the playoffs this year. I can see that. I don't think they're going to, you know, compete for a Super Bowl.

But I think in the two, three years, possibly, yes. But this year, they're going to be making a big impact. I mean, Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.

And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. If you go from what the fourth overall pick this year to the playoffs the next year, that's a huge jump.

We should get a, speaking of since we're all team fan do it, we should get a little futures parlay going. I want to say the commanders over under is nine and a half. Titans are five and a half. And Patriots are seven and a half wins. Get a little combine them all, futures bet. I'll hit the overs on them all.

Well, what is the commanders? Why are we hitting the overs with the Titans? Why can't we each do the over and then the Titans we do the under? You think the Titans will struggle and not win over five? You're not going to get six games? I don't think so. No, how many did they get last year?

Three. I think they got four or five in them this year. No, it wasn't five. I know, oh, this year. What's the improvement? Yeah. they got the quarterback number one overall pick,

but I'm just saying overall, where, what else did they get? This is a good piece. They paid a left tackle, 80 million dollars and they're going to move their left tackle from last year, put all 17 games. He was the top 10 pick over to the right side.

They got Zitler at right guard now. They got Cushenberry at center. And then you have a guy going to his third year that was a 11th overall pick. It's Peter Skronski at left guard. So we have a good offensive line. All right. All right. You got Calvin Ridley and you got two great backs and Spears and Pollard.

And you got, it really depends on like Cam Ward. If Cam Ward can be who we've kind of seen him be, then they are going to easily win over five and a half games. So it's all on Cam Ward as a rookie quarterback. Just like, just like the Patriots, it's all on Drake May. Mm-hmm. Because you got seven and a half. We got five and a half.

With that breakdown, you know, I feel more comfortable taking the over. I will say, well, let me play. I was just a good team meeting. Good family team meeting. Maybe we go both options. What's over one and an under one? Well, what's the Patriots over under? Seven and a half.

Oh, yeah, we got to go over. If I say they're making the playoffs, then that's going to be over. And that's a weak division as well, you know. Yeah, you have one monster. You have a monster. Yeah, with the bills. But I'm going over.

I'm going over big time. I'm going over big time. We're all just going to be so biased. And then what's the commander is nine and a half? Which is a big one. That is big. Jane Daniels in a second year. I mean, and they only upgraded their team as well.

They went out and got some more talent, you know. You got Cliff Kingsbury. is off to the corner. He's established. He knows how to handle players and he knows how to break down players' talent as well and use it. So I like the over.

We got to do a parlay where it's just all over there. Let's go big too. Go up to September 14th. That's the first game or September 7th? September 7th, the Raiders, dub. But Pete Carroll, you have the new running back in there. Geno Smith is there. They're going to run the ball.

They're going to play good football. Toss up. You said the dolphins come out of the water early in the season and look really pretty. That one's in Miami. And that one's in Miami. And it's in Miami. But did you see how pornoi break down the Patriot schedule?

Yeah, I thought he did a great job. I mean, they're going 17 and 0. So he did do a great job. He did a good job. He did a good job. He did a good job. I looked, I was like five and a half minutes, like the first 30 seconds, the first breakdown of the first game.

I was like, all right. I was like, maybe I can watch five and a half minutes. But he was so good in entertaining the first, you know, breakdown of the Las Vegas game. I was like, all right, I got to watch every single one. I watched the whole entire video and I literally walked away like that was good. You walked away. You went to go.

They might be 17. Yeah. There's a reason why Dave is where Dave's at. He can talk. Steelers. We're not breaking down the whole schedule now. I was looking at seven games. They're going above seven.

I mean, we got the Steelers number. The Patriots always take down the Steelers no matter what. You guys have a favorable schedule. You got the Panthers, the Titans, Saints, Browns, Falcons. Yeah, we feel good about seven and a half there. Jets. We feel good about science. Yeah, we're going over seven and a half.

Yeah. Yeah. The Titans, I know I talked to big about their offense, but they are going to have holes on defense. Like, they're going to have their cornerback, their secondary is going to be in a tough position. And that's going to be tough on a rookie quarterback then, too, because if rookie quarterback needs help from the defense in order to get truly established and understand everything going on and you're not playing from behind all the time. Exactly. And when you're playing from behind as a rookie, it's tough to get over that hump then. Yeah.

It's tough to win games. I mean, you've got to be truly established as a quarterback. back in order to understand like, all right, this is what we got to do from behind. This is what we got to do with a shitty defense. That's hard to understand your rookie year, you know, in the NFL at that position. But I'm down. I'm down to do it. I'm down to parlay.

Actually, I got my phone right here. I'm going to put the parlay in right now. At least build it so we know what the odds are. I won that bet. I won that bet last night, Florida Panthers taking down, you know, the Toronto Maple Leafs in game seven. Do you need another moment of silence for that? No, no. I appreciate you.

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they give plenty of odds. You can do over three and a half wins or over five and a half wins or over seven and a half wins. So you're saying the standard odds, though, are over five and a half wins. What does it say straight up? I don't know. It's minus 130 for five and a half wins. Yeah, then that's the one that they'll be running. All right. So that's, So that's the one we want right there. So how do I parlay that? Do I... Just go to another bet.

All right. I'll go to the New England Patriots. All right there, Washington commanders, click that. So what we want? Over nine and a half wins. That's minus one 10. That's the one we want then. All right.

All right. There we go. That parlayed. Same game parlay. And now we're going with the New England Patriots. Where are you guys? Right there. Over under seven and a half.

minus 150. That's it. Just clicked it. All right. Oh, we get, now it's a plus 473 overall. Plus 473 for that. So how much should I put in?

So this is a future bet. I'm going to do. Time about, don't do it yet. We might get it. We could get a little juice from Fanduel. Yeah. Like we tell them,

we get, we get done with the bus. We hit a Fandle. Hey, we want to put this. Gronk and the boys parlay. Rock and the boys parlay. Yeah,

but I'm going to put a little something on it now. And then I'm going to go big when they give a, that little juice. Yeah. So I'm going to do, I'm going to do 300. There we go. 300 right there.

300, I'm going to win 1,400. Okay. That's a bat right there. I'm feeling good. We're all feeling good about our teams. I'm worried about that. I'm thinking about this tier talk right now. Our tier talk today is going to be best movie couples.

That's what I'm hearing. Yeah, best movie couples, which is tough. I've thought about it. It's very hard. I love like the outside football talk. I thrive.

Football's great to talk about, but I can't talk too much football. Right. You want to have a little football. I really. I really can't. If the people are hanging out, you're going to talk about more than just football. I love talking more than football.

I love off the field type of freaking conversations. So what's this one? I'll kick it off with tier talk. All right. You'll start. Your talk is what I live for. Tier three, tier two, tier one. You're ranking them three all the way.

Do we got honorable mention as well? You can throw in an honorable mention. All right. All right. And for an honorable mention, my first honorable mention is going to be Noah and Allie from the notebook. It's a movie that will stay in the test of time. Great love story. I do enjoy love.

And sticking on the theme of love. I do enjoy love. I love a good tear joke. Love is the greatest drug out there. Amen. Amen. My tier three is going to be Jerry and Holly from P.S. I love you.

Great tear jerker movie right there. Great tear jerker movie where Jerry knows he's going to die and he writes these little P.S. I love you notes all throughout her life. She finds them. It is a very great love story. My tier two is going to be Rocky and Adrian. One of the best.

proposals of all time where he says, hey, what are you doing for the next 40 or 50 years? And she's like, I don't know why. And he's like, you, you wouldn't mind to marry me too much or anything. Right? And she's like, huh? He's like, you wouldn't mind marry me too much. She says, yes, Rocky Adrian, great love story. That is my tier two. My tier one is none other than Shrek and Fiona. Oh, that's a good one. Great one. Yes. Oh, man. That's a good one. I finally watch the ogre. They right, you know, it gets into the end. She loves Shrek. She doesn't want to be with the prince. She doesn't care to be the queen.

And that is all-time love story. That is my tier one. I watched that with Camille last year for the first time. And I'm in love. I'm in love with Shrek. Yeah, Shrek is a great series. Great, great movie.

Have you watched all of them since you want to last year? I'm kind of like Shrek like in some comparisons. Yeah. I can't believe you didn't say that. Big? Well, I mean, no homo. I think you're no pause really too. I think you're a good looking cat.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, Shrek is too. Yeah, yeah. I'm an older in a way. You got some. ogre tenets. Yeah, there we go. Yeah.

Shrunk. Shrunk. Kind of looks like me a little bit. So now we give one word to describe how we feel about Will's tear talk. I'll go first. Hyphenated, saved it. What was your one word?

Saved it. That's two. Hyphenated. Oh, that's one. Spectacular. Oh. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Thank you.

Boys. Yeah. Shrunk. Lovely. Buzzer-beater. Emotional. Money. Strong.

Touching. Wow. Thank you, boys. Thank you. Wow. I was getting turned on from all those descriptions. It's because you got that, uh, you got that, uh, you got that rose spark in your system.

I really did feel it back there. The emotions. The boys, emotions. Taylor, would you like to go second or should we go? Do we want to throw it to Grunt? Go to throw the Gras. All right. So just best movie couples.

Yeah. All right. My honorable mention, I'm going to go with my girlfriend and Channing Tatum in the movie. Oh, shit. What was that movie that she was in? Free Guy. And Free Guy, it was the opening scene. Okay.

Yeah, it was really touching. So it's honorable mention because they weren't really dating. but like they kind of way it was like going on a date like the opening scene like it kind of tough senior girl with yeah it was it was but I got to give it honorable mention like he's a rocket yeah I know he is and he's got moves bro you talk about dancing I I know I wonder what happened behind the scenes yeah so uh that's honorable mention you got to see it free guy it's a great movie she's not she's a hot chick in the beginning in the car with channing yeah yeah there they are right there and that's a good he's badass yeah that's a good one it was a badass

scene so I got to give her some credit there she did very well throughout that whole movie and then uh I'll go with number three I'll go with uh Justin baldini and Blake lively and it ends with us yeah I still haven't seen the movie but it's talked about so much that I got to you know put them in in in that ballgame yeah of being top three I mean when you're talked about that much it's got to be a power couple you know throughout the movie it ends with us so That's number three, number two, tier two. I'll go with Shia LeBuff. Is that how you say his first name?

Shia. Shia LaBuff and Megan Fox in the Transformers One. Transformers One. Great one. Yeah, that was excellent, dude. Who doesn't love, you know, Transformers One? And they were like an ultra power couple in that movie. And number one, you know, it was a real life.

relationship at the time too and also they made one of the best movies all the time i'm a big action guy mr and mrs smith but angela jolie and brad pitt yes it hit all aspects of that category because i they're a real life relationship it was a relationship in the movie and it's also an action movie and i love action movies so that's number one by five for me my word fireworks is that two words is that fireworks combined or or with a little dash like fire dash works fireworks is one word it is one word you're right yeah yeah you're right yeah you're trying that's how you're using it way to test the way you're using yeah just testing them making sure uh my one word amazing boys shrunk shrunk perfect incredible uh strong hyphenated gronk spike okay that's one word solid

Elite. Buddy, that was a good word. That was really talking. And Mr. Mrs. Smith is one that's not on my list. If I could redo it,

I probably would because it's so great, but I'm not going to take it. My tier three is going to go to Tess and Finn from Fools Gold. That's played by Kate Hudson and Matthew McConaughey.

Now in the beginning of the movie, they're getting divorced. The whole movie they're getting divorced towards then you'll have to watch it. Spoiler alert, they get back together. It's a beautiful one in Matthew McConae.

Looks phenomenal movie. I have to mention I actually just read his book, Greenlight. I just finished it. Was it a solid? Oh, very solid. Any chance, if you like to read books, read Matthew McConaughey's book. Shout out Matthew McConaughey.

My tier two is going to go to Vanessa and Deadpool in the first movie. The passion that those two have with each other, trying to outdo each other and how bad their childhoods are. They get engaged with a, what is it, a ring pop? And then all of a sudden the big C word comes. And obviously we know how the whole entire movie goes. My tier one is going to go to Jeremy Gray and John Beckwith from Wedding Crashers. You probably say Taylor, that's two guys. They weren't married.

Life and business is like a marriage with your best friends. Those two working together tirelessly during wedding season to grab and stab all these other beautiful women is something that takes a lifelong friendship to achieve, which is a marriage. And that is why they are my tier one. Mm-hmm. All right, I'll go first. I'll say creative because of the of your tier one. Thank you. Mm-hmm. Wham. Greatest hits. Mazel top. Ring pop.

Silver metal. Those are those are both two words. Unique. High-fied. Got to say hyphenated. Yeah, you got to. Hyphenated third place. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. How many?

Three booms. Okay. Boom, boom, boom. Great tier talk. And you understood it. You understood the assignment of tier talk. Like I said, man, outside of football, I love conversation. Like football can, you know, go for so long.

Right. Yeah. We have this episode to bring you True Classic. Now, listen, you're going to find True Classic at Costco, Nashville, June 13. That's what you're going to find out. Also, Sam's Club Target or online at TrueClassic.com forward slash Bustin. They've done so well. They're doing a kids and women's line launch later this year.

Now, you might see me wearing the all black, my usual cartoon uniform right now, grabs the shoulders, holds the chest in real nice. Can we get a wide Mitch? I want to show them a little how flexible this is. So I got the left leg up here. I'm going to bring that down. I'm just going to bring that all the way there. Right there?

The only thing hold me back is my own flexibility. That's the only thing holding me back. You see that cheek back there, Will? That's very good mobility, very good range. by True Classic. Great job. True classic. They look good so you can play good.

Let's get back to this episode. Here's a football. Here's a question in the football world. However, I think it involves you being a student of the game and giving game to the fellow young ones out there during the COVID year when a lot of things were virtual. There's a story about you potentially wearing different t-shirts while you're doing a sprint workout to send it in.

Give some game to the young counts out there and how you gain the system. Yeah, you got to work smarter and not harder, boys. You know, that's what it's all about. And that's what, you know, keeps you around a lot longer, too, is you can work as higher as you want. But if you're doing something that's making you insane and you just keep working harder, you're going to get more insane, you know?

But you got to work smarter. So you're supposed to, you know, during COVID, you were doing all the workouts at home and you had to send it into an app that you were to prove that you were doing the workouts. So you actually had to film yourself like benching and film yourself, you know, running the routes or running the sprints. But you didn't have to do the whole entire bench. Like it was like your last set.

or you would have to, you know, show like two of the runs that you were doing. So instead of filming myself running every time, I just film my, so that day you have 12 runs. So you got to show two of them. So instead of filling myself every single time to submit the runs, I brought out six different t-shirts. And every two runs, I would switch my t-shirt up and then film the whole entire run that day. And then I would submit those two runs with a different t-shirt on every single time that those moments came up that I had to submit it.

And so I tricked them. So I tricked them. So technically, maybe I didn't run that day then because I was like, oh, I'll just use the video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I hit the band shows. So I tricked them.

I tricked them. When did you, did you tell on yourself or did somebody ever find out? I told on myself. Fair. Yeah. Told the story to the reporters actually that year. That is so funny. Like once the hay was in the barn.

Like, oh, Rob, what the fuck? I got everyone hitting me up. You're an asshole. He loved it though. He thought it was great. That is a funny, funny piece of game. Last question. The Bud Light question.

Everybody knows anybody, they would do anything for a Bud Light. What is one thing that Rob Gronkowski would do anything for, Can't Say Family? Oh. Well, my dog's technically family, right? Yeah. Yeah. Girlfriend's technically family. Yeah.

Yeah. So what would I do anything for? Dang. You know, that's a really good question. I would do anything to be happy at all times 24-7. That would be something special. You can't go against that, right? Oh, no, I don't think so.

Yeah, to be happy at all times. What about playing your junior of college? Okay. All right. Physically, that's mentally. So now physically, I would go back. I would love to play my junior year in college. and also

I transferred my senior year in high school if I could somehow play that year that I played in Pittsburgh but also play the year at my old high school as well yeah so if I could like do double senior seasons in high school

and play the year my junior year in college at Arizona because you do you like when you leave like you miss your boy like I left my boys like in high school you know I went to a different school I was getting in trouble and stuff

There's a lot more to it, but then I went to Pittsburgh my senior year. But like, you know, I'm still friends with all those guys, like to this day. And like, you're leaving them, you know. I mean, it's for the better in the end. Like, it worked out for sure. But like still, like you wish you could, you know, you watch all the high school movies and everything, like Friday night lights. And like, you wish you could finish strong with the people you started with. Right.

But it just didn't work that way. And same with, you know, my third year, you know, at the University of Arizona. So I would do anything. You're right. mentally to be happy at all the times. Being happy is great and energized and energized and then physically go back and play those years. I love it. What's something you weren't necessarily prepared for kind of came as a surprise like during

retirement. Like you're a guy at Hall of Fame career, one of the best to ever do it. And you obviously tasted retirement that one year and then you came back to Tampa Bay. But now you're like officially retired. What's something you feel like you didn't necessarily see coming with retirement? You know, being on a routine, you know, when you're, playing ball and you're an athlete your whole life, you always have a routine. You got to be at practice. You got to be in the film room. Like it's there. Like you, it's handed to you like a, you know,

a schedule every single day. That routine, you know what to do and get prepared for. And then once you retire, that routine is totally thrown out the window. It's kind of up to you now to schedule, you know, when you're going to work out, when you're going to do this, when you're going to study, all that good stuff. So just getting on a routine and when you totally get off of it as well, it fucks with you, you know, like you're kind of like mentally weak. Sometimes you're flying all over to place. You're not doing the right things. You're not getting your workouts in and all that good stuff.

And you're just so used to doing all that, you know, on a continuous basis. Even if you don't feel like it, you have to do it when you're an athlete because everyone else is doing it. You don't have that push around you. So that's the tough spot is getting that push, you know, to get to the next level and also that routine of always, you know, being on the grind. and getting things done. Yeah, because when it's snowballs, you're just laying there and you just get so mad at yourself from falling out of a routine. Then you start talking to yourself in ways like you said,

like, oh, mentally weak, like I'm fucking falling off. Look what's happened to you. Look at an old photo of yourself, like that guy worked hard. But you guys got it down though. Like, look at you guys keep each other accountable, I bet, you know, doing the show. You got to get a routine and, you know, get prepared for it, you know, study up. Same thing with myself and Julian. We got our podcast, dudes on dudes.

So you got to prepare for that, get mentally readily. kind of physically ready too because you want to be physically feeling good at all times. It keeps your mental game sharp. So you just got to find, you know, the guys out there that want to get on the same page with you and want to do that as well. What is it like diving into the podcast world with Jules? Yeah, it's great. And what's great about it, Julian already had his podcast games with names.

So Julian was experienced. The podcast, I never thought it was like really for me. I always like going on people's podcasts. But I was like, I said no for like ever. I was like, I don't want to start my own podcast. but then once I went on Julian's, we had the chemistry, and then I saw that Julian can carry the load of the podcast, too. The load, we were just talking about that on Sunday conversation.

He's like, oh, Julian takes the whole load of the podcast. I was like, yeah. So that just brought, you kind of triggered in my mind. But I was like, all right, so he's going to be there to help me along and everything. And it's just great to have a teammate. So I was like, this is perfect. And his team around them was already experienced. Everything's set up, ready to go right when you walk in.

So I was like, I can do it. now and it was just a right fit it's kind of like going to Tampa had to be the right fit yeah do you travel out there to do it each time you guys do the pod well i'm in l.a all the time for the pregame for the fox show uh so we usually just knock out an episode or two on like that monday or friday or something um and now that it's off season we get together like we were just in boston last week we knocked out two episodes but uh if we're not we just do it over zoom got you yeah so half of them right now in the off season are over zoom the other half are when we can get in person whenever we can That's awesome.

We got to get all the boys together. Yeah. We can get the four of us in one room. That'd be awesome. The boys, the dudes. It would be good stuff. Gosh. You guys basically, you guys are like football with a little, all football with a little

everything else as well. Yeah. I say it like worst. Like 70% football. 70% in the off season two like, I mean, we have like comedians, musicians, like all coaches, players, all these different things. Yeah, that's what we were. We were basically off football on the first couple though.

And I was like, bro, I'm not all full. like I can't so now we're switching up with like fan questions that are like or that like tear talk that we just did with the movie couples like we come up with segments like that now too and I'm like this is way better like football is great for half of it but the other half I want to this freelance was going on what you're doing at the moment like what you learn like new technique new trick in life or whatever new hack just whatever just go off so not just all about football now we're kind of blaspheming more like because of it hot topics whatever he's talking about right there so football is great I mean

but like to do it 24-7. I like abroad of, you know, of everything. I'm with you on that. Absolutely with you. Before we let Mr. Grancowski go, does anybody have a question back there? They'd like to ask. Anybody feel free.

I thought that guy in the middle would ask me where I get my IVs from, even though we already brought it up where you guys get your IVs from too. You talk about Ayrtee Nashville? Yeah, he does do a good job. I mean, I don't want to give him the credit, but he's good at sticking you. You know, because you know he's seeking the credit in L.A. Yeah. Seeking it.

And he does rehydrate you well. So these unbelievable nurses there that work really hard. Yes. And they actually deserve all the credit, all the women nurses that he has hired. Absolutely. Eritay in Nashville, they do get you hydrated and filled you up with the best vitamins in the game. It is. Those nurses are on point.

Yeah, the nurses, you run that company. Run it. They really do. Without the nurses. Bobbo, they didn't see all the work in the beginning. Yeah. I didn't see where it started. I didn't see where it started.

Yeah. And Bob, we do appreciate it for the show you were talking about giving us all free IVs for like next two months so I appreciate you saying that I agree that's your right possible Bobo that is awesome thank you sir and if you're listening and and uh you hear this just walk in and say hey I heard you're giving out free IVs yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah just code bussing yes on the grunk episode yeah also with gron is free i v so that is big time bobo you have to give you have to give it got to we're not saying any deal a vitamin bag the athlete bag you have to give out if someone comes in but grunk

You remember he was saying, you were saying that he was giving all of us NAD for free. Yeah, we're getting NAD for free. Yeah, yeah. But they can get a, if you hear this, you can get a vitamin bag for free. We don't want them to go bankrupt now. No, no, no, just a Vib bag, get in there. Small bag, small bag, too. Yeah.

It's all robs again. Small bag, no small bag, big bag. That is no really price difference. It's just fluid. Fluid. It's five cents. Yeah, yeah. Even though you get charged $100.

Yeah. Gotta make a profit. Got to make a profit. Our margins are healthier. Yeah. Yeah. It's like ice cream. Ice cream margins.

Ice cream margins. Jack, did you have a question? Hey, I got to, yeah. When do, when do ice cream companies make their most amount of money? When did it? Yeah, like what month? July. No.

June? See, that's what you think. It's actually May. It's like right when the weather blossoms because everyone wants to hurry up and get there. I heard they make all their money for the whole year. Yes, June, July, and August are great. But when it's truly packed, it's the first month that it just does. the sun comes out.

I learned that. That's what I've been told. No shit. That's crazy. Because everyone goes crazy. It's like when the weather is nice outside, how, how bazaunkers is it outside? It's wild. People walking around.

Yeah. Later in the summertime, you go out on Saturday, it's like, oh, people are like, oh, we've seen the sun every single day now. Yeah. Right. Everyone goes apes shit when it's the first, you know, week of nice weather. Same with the ice cream world. When it comes to, I don't discriminate on weather.

I'll take down an ice cream in the middle of January. I love that stuff. Love it. Go ahead, Jackie. Was the Steve Harvey Lego head spike scripted? Damn, damn, that's a good question. And everyone wants to know that, actually. It's still talked about to this day, that was a legendary moment by far. We were hosting New Year's Eve on Fox.

And I spiked the Steve Harvey Lego set of his head, of his face. But what was scripted was that I was going to spike it. Like, I knew I was spiking it. They had me in the script, hey, Gretke, you're going to spike to Steve Leavich. Steve Harvey Legos, not Steve Harvey, Steve, my names are all over to play, Steve. No, you're right. Steve Harvey, I'm getting them confused with another Steve, I know.

But the Steve Harvey Lego said, hey, you're going to spike it. So when I spiked it, that was kind of, you know, understood. That was kind of scripted. Did he know it? Did he know it? But his reaction was not scripted at all. And I'm not sure either if he knew I was going to spike it or not. I knew I was going to from the beginning.

I'm not sure if he knew. But his reaction was priceless, man. Like, it felt like he was truly pissed if he truly was. But how was the dynamic after? It was fine. Were you around him? And he was kind of like, he didn't bring it up after. Like, he was like, he was like, nice spike.

But like he wasn't like out the screen. Like, why the fuck did you do that? Yeah. No, no. Like he acted like that. Like when it happened. I mean, he kind of got me scared. I was like, oh shit.

Like, was I really supposed to do that or not? Like, he's pissed. But it was good. It was TV. It was one of my best moments, one of my best moments on TV of all time. I love it. Boys, we feel good? Any other questions back there?

I know, but I don't like telling anyone that scripted. Because everyone truly believes it was like right on the spot. Like I decided to do that. Steve sells it. Yeah. He sells it big time. Yeah. He sold it that good.

So yeah, it was scripted. But it was kind of, it was unscripted scripted. There we go. Unskippeded scripted. Let's give Rob a round of applause, boys. Thank you for coming on the bus. Thank you guys for having us, man. Bussing with the boys.

That's what's up, man. Thank you. We'll be doing more with Fanduil. Yes. Oh, yeah. Fan Duel's the best, man. This fall is going to be awesome. I can't wait for it.

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