Bussin' With The Boys - Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Explains Why Democrats & Republicans Do NOT Want Him On The Ballot
Episode Date: July 30, 2024Recorded: July 24th, 2024 | On this week's episode of Bussin' with the Boys, we have a very special guest, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. As a prominent environmental attorney and advocate, RFK Jr. has now set... his sights on becoming President of the United States. He joins the boys to share why he’s following in his Father and Uncle’s footsteps. First we kick off the episode by diving into RFK Jr.’s experiences during this presidential race. Mr. Kennedy discusses the importance of gaining signatures in each state, the Democratic party attacking his campaign, and his platforms of building up the middle class and reforming the housing market. Mr. Kennedy then opens up about his Uncle and Father’s assassinations. What it was like for him to grow up as a Kennedy, and lasting memories with his Father in Poland. Bobby also parallels his current views on politics with that of his Uncle and Father’s. His most important being the corruption of both major political parties in the U.S. by large corporations. To finish off the episode The Boys have some fun, jumping from topic to topic, including RFK Jr.'s fondest childhood memories, his hobbies, and his admiration for the Washington Commanders. In this week's intro, Taylor recaps going full Karen on some Nashville Airport employees, while Will discusses the controversy surrounding the opening ceremonies in Paris. Tier Talk is Best Olympic Events, and no surprise swimming events were not mentioned by either Will or Taylor. Is Will starting a war on Paul Finebaum and the SEC as a whole.. time will only tell! Thanks for listening, boys! TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 3:15 Taylor Went Full Karen 10:03 Recapping The Week 12:11 Olympics Opening Ceremony Controversy 15:08 Paul Finnybaum Came After Nebraska 17:13 Tier Talk - Best Olympic Events 23:56 Interview Preview 27:41 RFK INTERVIEW STARTS 28:51 How We Got Him On The Bus 29:35 Choosing Who To Run His Campaign 33:15 Needing Signatures To Be On Ballot In Every State 37:14 Why Do The Dems + GOP Make It So Difficult For Him? 39:22 How To Protect Democracy 51:06 Practical Way TO Restore The Middle Class? 58:34 How To Fix The USA's Debts 1:02:54 Story About Going To Poland 1:11:09 JFK's Plans If He Wasn't Killed 1:17:58 Big Football Guy 1:25:53 Why Is Running For President So Important To Him? 1:28:53 His Thoughts On Joe Biden Dropping Out 1:31:13 What Biden Was Like 20-30 Years Ago 1:34:13 Twisted QOTW - Aaron Rodger’s Being His VP? 1:44:58 For People Listening To Him For The First Time, What Does He Have To Say To Them? 1:46:57 RFK Knows Year 10For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Speaking of forgetting to do stuff
or forgetting things in general, I forgot
my valet ticket at BNA.
Ah. And you
would have thought it was Fortnite.
And a lot of people are here for RFK, obviously,
but you're going to hear this is a bit of a therapy session as well for me
because last couple of days, dude, we flew to Detroit from Detroit,
flew to Houston, from Houston, flew back to Nashville.
It was up late, up early type of things,
burning the candle up both ends in the sense of not getting a whole lot of sleep.
So we are sitting in Houston, so ready to be home.
So excited.
So excited.
Like you said, we're landing every night at probably midnight.
Yeah.
In an hotel, waking up early.
Yeah, let's just say six, even though it was probably like five.
Yeah, probably five.
We got 4.30 before right around the times.
And you know, I always wake up before just to compete with Jocko Willie.
Yeah, I have to.
Yeah, I have to.
Someone's got to take that man down.
You're the man to do it.
So you can imagine I'm a little bit tired at this point.
I get to the BNA, which is the Nashville Airport Valet.
And this guy sitting in front of me, I said, hey, listen, I lost my ticket.
But in my head, I've lost my ticket a dozen times.
It's not a big deal ever.
Oh, really?
No.
I've done it before and I will never do it again.
Okay, because that must have been what happened to me.
Yeah.
Because I'm talking to a lady, she's like,
hey, unless like your registration matches your address or the name on it,
or we're not going to be able to give you the vehicle.
And I'm like, oh, good, bring it up.
I have the registration.
It's under one of my LLCs, but I have the same address on it.
It should be no problem.
She was fine.
The guy behind her who thought he was literally the king of all valets,
whoever rule valets, goes, we're not giving you the vehicle.
He allows me to go in the vehicle.
I pull out a sign that you go get my cars, my kids for pickup,
says Luwan on it.
My card says Luan, my license says Laan.
I pull out the registration.
Same address as my driver's license.
And he's just not having it.
And I, to the pool, what do you mean?
He's not having it.
He will not let me take the vehicle.
Why would he not be like, okay, this all makes sense?
You get him on the bus and ask him.
Okay.
Because I go, I go, bro.
I literally, I have the app on my phone.
It's a test.
It's my wife's car.
I can just watch.
I turn the horn on.
The horn honked.
And what is his response?
He's like, sorry, unless you have, unless your name on the registration is the same.
I was like, my name is no bad days.
What do you mean?
It's no one's name is no bad days.
And he's like, he's giving me a hard time, blah, blah, blah.
And I go, bro, are you fucking serious that loud?
Bro, are you fucking serious?
And you know it's getting real.
Yes.
Because it's not like a Taylor move.
Like you can tell when he's mad, but it's never direct.
Are you fucking serious?
And especially in public.
And the thing too, and I, dude, there is.
two or three people back there being like tapping him and being like,
hey, that's Taylor.
Like he played for the Titans and he's got a podcast best with the boys.
Like there's a couple guys in the back that were for him that are kind of like being for the boy.
But I'm not.
The only thing I think of my head is like police videos when they're like,
I play for the so-and-so.
And I'm like, I'm not doing that.
I'm not.
Buddy ends up calling the police.
Did you show him the Wikipedia?
What?
Did you show him your Wikipedia?
No, I just shown the Wikipedia.
I learned my lesson with that.
But got to set up a ticket.
Yeah.
That he calls the police.
and I'm here for 30 minutes
I'm on face some of my wife
I'm like dude
he won't just let me go
and I told him I was like
what if I just get in my car
and leave?
He goes,
we'll impound the car
I'll just get in the car
and leave then.
Like I have the app
he's like we won't give you the key
I have the app
he looks at his boy
and does it
Tesla bro
I don't need the key
he looks at his boy
and goes
park it
his boy scurries out the door
and goes in parks
the car
pulls it and you see him like
you know how it's like
there's lanes
he goes the far this lane
away
and I see the car's like
a damn near half a mile at this point.
It is so far away.
Oh my goodness.
Bro, I am fuming.
His manager comes down.
His manager and him were aligned on hating me.
It was some small little girl.
And she was,
I was like,
hey, how you doing?
And she just gave me like that,
the nod, no smile,
no facial expression.
We're taking your big ass down.
Yeah,
I'm thinking,
what are we doing?
And then the cop pulls up,
cop pulls up,
opens the door,
looks at me and just smiles
and shrugs his shoulders.
He's like,
hey,
for the boys.
And I was like,
yeah,
can you,
let's go,
let's go.
And I'm like telling him like, bro, I am pretty upset right now.
But like I just want to say, we'll get you out of here.
Don't worry.
They take 15 more minutes just to get the vehicle.
Sickening.
Oh, that is so tough.
And I'm my head.
I'm like, I'm not tipping.
Nothing.
But this little dude went back and forth like four times.
So I threw him a little cash.
I hand him a little cash.
But I didn't want to make sure it wasn't on the car because I don't know if they're
dipping those tips up.
I want him specifically to have that money.
That's what I was going to ask you about.
Like the lady, they had two, they had two of them going.
So if you're walking this way, not the lady here, but going around the corner and getting that window.
Yeah, I was first window.
Gotcha.
I didn't take the extra three steps.
I went extra three steps because somebody was in line, but she went to, they went to get the truck.
And I don't think I said anything.
That's why I feel like I was, that's why I feel like I got hustled.
And I was curious what, what happened with you?
But she goes, you said you wanted tip 10?
And so I just said, yes.
And then I was like, I think she just fucking got me.
I wouldn't care.
I really well
And I legit
I didn't hit the classic phrase
If I want to talk to your management
I think but here's what buddy did
He started talking to me like
He had
He had an accent on him
But he was like pronounciating
It was words well
Very easy and clear
As soon as there was a confrontation
All of a sudden he had a way stronger accent
And he would just repeat things
He was trying to play me
Like I already heard you talking
Good English brother
I was so mad
literally was at the BNA Valley area for 45 minutes, maybe an hour.
That's tough, man.
I'm sorry you went through that.
And then what happened?
I got the car and drove off.
Your phone.
Oh, yeah.
So when I hit him with the, are you fucking serious?
I like kind of put my hand out.
I don't like that.
And the phone was on that little counter.
And it hit and fell.
And that's where, dude, I got this phone a week ago.
No.
A week ago.
Oh, my goodness.
I know.
Oh, that's brutal.
And that sent me over the edge too, because I went to go pick it up,
and I thought it was going to be fine.
I turned it over and I saw it.
And that sent me into a new atmosphere of mad.
But that's where I just ended up getting quiet.
Because I was mad, dude.
I made a couple of slide comments.
It's a great mix of that's everybody else's fault that just happened,
but also that's my fault.
In your mind, at the moment, it's everyone's fault.
As soon as you get in the car and drive off,
you're like, you're an idiot.
You're like, you had to be that aggressive with your arm movement.
I bet the cop was a homie, dude.
Shout out the cops, dude.
Shout out the cops, if you're listening.
You gotta believe that O's the mentalist
would get out of that situation.
You'd be like, check your pocket.
No, no, doubt.
The registration's there.
Oh, no question.
No question.
But yeah, that's, I really wanted to tell that story
because it was, it was heavy on my heart.
But hey, a great week overall.
Great week overall.
Great week.
We had R.K on.
Yeah, O's came out.
We had the beer games.
All three episodes of the beer games are out.
And if you're a person that is watching RFK for the politics, politics, beer games, we do it all here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you are unaware of what we are talking about, we name change was the beer Olympics.
We had to change the beer games, obviously copyright and everything else going on.
But we have three episodes of the beer games championships of the world that took place in Taylor-Lewan, our boys' backyard.
Yes, we are the champions.
Yes, we won the whole thing.
There were 16 teams.
We took home the trophy.
But those are out on our YouTube channel as well.
RFK we had a massive opportunity to come up to interview RFK
He came on the bus
Secret Service was coming in days in advance
Dogs coming in and snipers on the roof
Snipers on the roof
Way better set up than what Trump had at his rally
And dude yeah if you're if you're coming on this show
To listen to like politics and us go back and forth
You came to the right place
You came to the wrong place
We asked a lot of political questions
We start off we start off talking about that stuff
But really we even joked on it so I know you guys
don't like to talk politics
and going off of our political questions.
Yeah,
we said that.
But yes,
then he goes,
we won't talk about politics then.
But it was truly like a story time.
It was learning about the Kennedy family.
Him talking about his uncle being on an island
and then writing on a coconut coordinates
and that's how he got saved.
And then once he was,
his inauguration was taking place,
he invited those guys,
but they didn't represent that country well enough.
So they sent two other guys.
Yeah.
It was,
it was a cool,
it was just a really an amazing podcast,
One that I really, really enjoyed.
He's an incredible storyteller.
He really is.
He's very good at starting on one topic,
then you completely end up somewhere else.
I did ask him what he thought about the Washington commander's name change.
So we will dive into that.
I thought he handled that really well, too.
Yeah.
Like a true politician.
Yeah.
Because you know what he really wants.
I think you can figure out that, you know,
he talked about empathizing with that community and everything else,
but he was said that.
You know.
Yeah, yeah.
Vague.
Got to be vague.
Save it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
People don't want to hear us say it.
Yeah.
him say it.
Yeah.
But yeah,
that's what we got today.
Did you see the opening ceremony
with the Olympics?
I saw a couple clips
and people were pretty upset on,
I saw that there was a smurf and a dish.
But we were at the airport,
so I really didn't hear any of the volume
and I didn't decide to go look.
A lot of satanic rituals,
some would say.
Really?
There's this lady on fire.
She's like holding her head.
She's headless.
There's this pale horse
trotting, running across
with death on its back.
the word death?
Well, it's like a call to,
there's like a,
there's a spot in the Bible
in revelations, right?
A pale horse with death
riding on its back
or from behind or whatever it is.
And they're kind of doing that.
They also mimic the last,
they also mess with the last supper.
Really?
Yeah.
And it's like drag queens.
I mean, somebody,
the first person they showed
doesn't necessarily represent the Olympics.
So this,
we're talking about peak athleticism.
and you know and the guy that you guys we'll show the we'll show the visuals so I'll have to verbally
get aggressive the guy that put it on is in charge of organizing the whole opening ceremony he's
Jewish which adds a whole other layer to the yeah underlying there's some
conspiracies going on love a tinfoil hat day this is a prime tinfoil hat ceremony like this is
where something like that starts gets the crowd going
I don't want to talk about my ass
but when the Romans
they started the Olympics correct
Greeks excuse me
thank you Sherman wow that's a tough L
but they had like very crazy
opening ceremonies even then right
so maybe maybe
this is them just kind of going back
to their roots in a lot of ways even though this is in France
you'll be on that side we'll be on this side
I'm just playing devil's advocate
keep your eye on Taylor over the next few years
so this
voluptuous lady in the middle here is supposed to be Jesus
I don't know
I mean she's in the spot
Yeah I guess so
She's in the spot
Just a very interesting ceremony
Okay
I probably won't watch
One event now
Except swimming
Yeah except swimming
And the 100 meter dash
And Dominican versus Brazil
Beet volleyball
Yeah
Yeah
Just the things
Team USA basketball
I will watch swimming
I watch swimming for the people out there
To hate and I just think
I just think swimming's...
Greeks used to do it naked.
Ooh, a little now fat.
Every event.
Bring it back.
Tradition.
Bring it back, dude.
Let's get tradition.
The French would be the ones to bring that back.
A horrible...
A horrible running form in that photo you just showed, too.
Futs on Dorseyflex, bad angles.
Yeah.
No power angles.
You see that?
I hope so badly that South Park...
Oh, they're gonna...
South Park does an amazing job.
Prime time spot.
current events.
Primetime spot.
They do a great job.
Fine bomb, dude.
Yeah, Finney bomb.
What's the deal?
He was coming at Michigan last year and I set his sights on Nebraska.
Did he come at Michigan last year?
Yeah, he called them like a second tier team and the SEC.
He's essentially, he's essentially like he seems like he was wrong about that too.
Yeah.
And what was the situation with you?
He was talking about, don't worry about the big boys at the top.
You act like you, you're speaking like you said at the table with Ohio State and Georgia.
You do not.
Then he took a personal shot at Matt Rules NFL coaching, uh, coaching years.
with the Panthers, a personal shot.
Personal?
In my opinion.
What was the quote?
It was unnecessary to go after the boy coach rule and bring that up.
Yeah.
I get the fun trips.
Listen, Finney Baum, he's playing a he's playing a heady play right there
because you know that that kind of take galvanizes the Nebraska fan base.
Yeah.
Like you talk about Nebraska, you're going to, hey, that's like talking about the Cowboys in the NFL.
Yeah.
I mean, regardless of the state of the Nebraska football program and what they're in right now,
the fan base does go extremely hard.
Right.
We win every poll out there, every social media poll out there.
We're the national champions of social media polls.
They have everywhere we go, bones are being thrown, black shirts, all that talk, go big red.
Yeah.
They really roll deep.
And you just, you witnessed somebody like Finneybaum doing that.
And he's just, like this is a dying gazelle in the safari talking like he's some lion.
You know what I mean?
No, but go ahead and elaborate a little more.
You say in the Nebraska Cornos who's going to eat him alive?
No, I'm saying Paul Finnebaum himself in this game.
He's a gazelle.
Yeah, he's a dying gazelle in the safari.
Oh.
Pretending to speak for the lions.
You know what I mean?
You're not hanging out with the big boys.
Right, right.
You're not even close to the people.
He runs back and forth and he just pretends like he's a part of the crew
and really that just make him do little tricks for him.
He's the younger brother of the older brother.
Exactly.
That's tough on him.
Smeagle looking at his dude.
I'll get his ass will.
Man.
He looks like a javelin.
I could throw 20 yards at least.
Man.
Before we get off the Olympics, hey, that could be a tear talk.
Do we want a tier talk Olympic events?
Favorite Olympic events?
Field events, whether it's swimming, whether it's...
And it can be both winter and summer?
Oh, you want to throw winter.
Maybe we just do summer because it's the Summer Olympics.
Okay.
Let's do Summer Olympics.
Give me two minutes.
What's your favorite winter Olympic event?
Probably hockey.
Hockey, okay, okay.
Okay.
Okay, okay.
That makes sense.
That makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, I just saw Miracle, dude.
Miracle?
You see that movie?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
If you have not, you should get,
should get checked on your citizenship.
Yeah, again, what a, what a scene.
Would be tough to be one of the boys.
I watched the state championship with Friday night lights.
I'm a plane right home.
I have, like, 20 minutes left.
Let me just give you yourself.
Yes.
I'll rip it first.
Go ahead.
I'm going to go tier three.
Hurdles.
Hurdles.
Your boy took on the golden districts in eighth grade.
I was a decent little sports minute hurdles.
I enjoy watching it.
What distance?
100 meter hurdles.
Our 110.
Okay.
Yeah, it's 110, yeah.
But the hurdles, the 100 meter.
110 meter dash.
Not the long one.
I think they do like a long one,
or it's like 300 meter hurdles possibly.
Is that sound right?
That is right.
Okay.
At high school level, 300,
at professional level 400.
Okay.
Thank you for that.
Fun fact.
Fun fact.
My tier two is going to go to the high jump.
Enjoy a good high jump.
Yes, I will bring this back to me.
Your boy holds the middle school record for high jump at five feet,
11 inches?
5 feet 11 inches in 8th grade yes your boy has the record we have bunnies and bunnies well what's up
Mitch did you do the high jump no but I in eighth grade you're jumping six feet I said 511
which is close I didn't get six I think 511 I saw somebody do at Michigan and he won yeah
that baked 10 match boys I I promise I think it's 4 11 no no I'm scissure
Kicking 4-11.
Scissor kicking.
That's where you don't even have to bend backwards.
You just jump up and clear it.
I know what scissors-kicking is.
Okay.
I just wanted to...
The people might not know.
The people might not know.
I don't think...
I'm 95% sure I was at a Michigan
track and field event.
And it was a Big Ten event
and somebody jumped 5-11 and won.
A Michigan person?
Whoever, number one, this must be like...
There are no athletes.
If somebody jumping 5-11 wins a Big Ten.
it up it's not bro
the world record
like 8 4 yeah the
the record the high school record
at my high school was 6 7
the high school record at my high school is like 6 7
so 511 is like
obviously for an 8th grader
bunnies
okay 7
7 feet 5 inches won the big 10
this year this year
but you know
different athletes yeah
okay so maybe
he's right maybe he's right right now
bro.
Maybe he's right.
Did you run track and field in middle school?
Yeah, Mitch is bad.
I too couldn't handle that, dude.
My tier one, though, you know, it could be
and it could be unanimous across the board.
My tier one is that 100 meter dash.
I think that you just watching the race for the fastest human being in the world.
200's cool, 400's cool, cool, distance, not cool at all.
But claiming that you are the one, the one, bro.
Like, imagine being Usain Bolt.
Yeah.
Fastest man in the world.
In the world.
And everybody, like, and that's the one, it's the one event that everybody, I feel like
asked about, like, hey, what day's the 100 meter dash happening?
Because I feel like you have the most viewership there.
So my tier one is the 100 meter dash.
And that concludes my tier talk.
Yeah, four by one's fun.
The 100 meter dash is just built into us since we're little kids.
Yeah, yeah.
The minute you realize that competition exists, the first competition, I think we ever participate in
is a race against our friend.
Yeah, yeah.
And when you're fast as,
as it is.
Yeah, when you're fast in the elementary school,
it's a rap.
You are the king, bro.
You're the coolest kid in school.
And it's funny too because it never even goes to a thought of let's run a longer distance.
You're just thinking let's race.
To that pole.
Yeah, let's race to that pole.
It's just an all-out sprint.
I loved yours because they were, oh, one word.
Excellent.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That fires me up.
Let's go, Hater, Mitch.
Bones
Locked in
Speed
Yeah I really liked yours
Because they were like
Speed
They were all like the classics
Yeah
You hit all the classics
I was looking at the list
As you were
Doing your tier talk
My tier three
Is gonna go to
I'm gonna give a tip of the cap
To the old line man
Man man
It's gonna go to shop put
Sorry
No
No no no
Just boys in a small circle launching a ball as far as they can't grunting at the end throwing it out.
That's real power right there.
My tier two is going to go to, which I just found out on this little list, skateboarding.
I don't know skateboarding was an Olympic event.
And every time skateboarding is on TV, whether it's X games or some other little thing, I always watch it.
I don't know anything about skateboarding now other than Niger Houston.
That's it.
And then my tier one is going to go to the 100 meter dash.
That's where boys become men right there.
Yeah.
That's where you separate the lines from the sheep, the fine bombs from the Comptons.
You guys start with the one word.
I don't think I have mine.
Mine was going to be misfits.
Shotput skateboarding.
But then you go to the 100 meters.
So now I've got to think about my word.
Creative.
Different.
On brand.
Range.
Thank you.
I'll take all that, boys.
I'll take all that
Do we
Do we want to
Let this people get to
Get to this episode?
I think so
No we don't we don't need twisted
We told them our twisted question
Was the microphone 60 seconds
You got that one in there too
Hell yeah
Hey you did a great job
Of what
Of kind of starting the conversation with RFK
How nervous were you?
I sat here
I was so nervous
And before
When the when the Secret Service
was starting to pile in
And all that
I wasn't nervous
but when the door opened and he was on the phone
and we kind of did the walk up and he gave us the finger real quick
nerves out the ass dude
bro yeah I mean I was nervous as that was starting to like happen
I was excited to get it I'm more so thinking like I wonder
what angle or where we're going to kind of start the conversation
because we were going small talk I think we put it in a coffee order
and then it kind of naturally started flowing but I was more coming down from
I was more I was most nervous standing out there when the secret service is entering
and it felt like oh shit this is a this is real
Like this is a massive deal.
And like the secret service,
there was one guy in the back of the bus
who was watching that back door.
And I went up and introduced myself to him
and he was like, nice to meet you.
And then stood.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They don't break character.
They don't.
Except for a...
Doug?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, the 21-year-old kid.
But Doug, we got to know Doug a little bit.
Doug I was fired up because at the end,
the first day he was here,
he was more like that guy you were talking about.
Doug was.
But then at the end, Doug was more,
he was more relaxed,
more laid back, felt comfortable around us.
I love that.
But man, I hate that.
we're forgetting old buddy's name the 21 year old
Jackson good pull Mitch
Good pool shout out the boy Jackson
And then there was a Husker fan in there too
He said you mind if I get a photo
That's awesome
Yeah they had a good crew with them
A good crew and it was a great conversation
I hope everybody I'm interested to see
How this whole thing's received
It'll be mixed you know how it is
It's always a mixed bag
You can't make it's always a mixed bag
A couple people in those comments
Yeah but what do you do man
We're having a conversation
We're hanging out.
Can't have conversation of people?
Trying to silence us?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's crazy.
We asked about the middle class.
Yeah, we did.
Yeah.
We talked about the majority of the people.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah.
We also tried talking sports.
Tried to.
Tried.
Oh, what was, what the big part that sucked about this?
Just calling a little timeout.
Time out.
Time out.
I was when we were like, we didn't know it was going to be a capped interview.
And then it was like, hey, you guys only have 15 minutes left.
I know.
Because there were so many things we wanted to dive into.
A lot more like fun questions on the back end and kind of more person.
and kind of more personal questions, stuff like that,
I think that that would have been.
The interview was awesome,
but it sucked that we couldn't,
because again, he's a very good storyteller.
Yeah.
He tells a lot of stories.
We don't really get a lot of questions in there.
It remind me a little bit of stew.
Yeah.
You kind of sat back and you listened.
You're just mesmerized by the amount of stories he's telling.
Could easily went three hours.
Easily went three hours.
And he had juiced the whole entire time.
It was awesome to see.
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Without further ado, this is the RFK Jr. episode.
That's the Kennedy compound.
I grew up there.
There's 105 Kennedys who live in that town.
And, you know, we were, we do sports all day.
Yeah.
And I have seven kids.
And they have, you know, 100 cousins in that town.
Oh, it's all like on the water.
That's a massive family.
Yeah.
I have a brother.
That is it.
That is all.
That's wild.
Are we rolling?
No, we don't get to until we have a notary music.
Or can you roll in that we can pause?
Yeah, we can roll and pause.
Let's do that.
Because you know how the small talk goes.
Small talk is the best part of the podcast.
We'll sit there.
We'll become great friends and all of us own.
So let's start.
And then everybody freezes up.
Yeah.
And then it's not organic.
I'm going to be honest to you.
So we want to call Robert
Mr.
Kennedy Jr.
Yeah, you don't drink this at all, did you?
No, no, no, no.
That's body wash.
That's some body wash.
No, I'm Bobby.
Bobby?
Yeah.
And your son is also Bobby.
I have a son, Bobby.
Yeah.
And he's B3.
B3.
That's how we all back connected.
How do you know that all through him?
Yeah, I was actually that was put in contact with Bobby,
and we got in the phone and started talking.
And he's like,
I was putting the situation where it's like you kind of just take phone calls and you're trying to figure out what you can do for each other to have a networking situation.
And we started talking.
I have this podcast called Bustin with the Boys.
We'd love to have your father on.
And he's calm, cool, collected.
Like, yeah, we can answer that question for you.
No problem.
The answer is yes.
And so I took his contact, gave it to our EP, who's Stephen.
And he's Steven's out here is actually in Italy right now and got this whole thing done.
So we really appreciate you coming on.
This is awesome.
I'm really excited to be here.
Yeah.
My son Bobby is married to a woman whose maiden name was Amarillo's Fox.
She is now my campaign manager.
And she went to Oxford and then she had a theology degree from Georgetown.
And she, after 9-11, she went to the CIA.
She was in the Klendon Science Services in the Weapons of Mass Destruction Program.
and she was serving in China and Pakistan all over the Mideast.
And, you know, got disill, she actually was married,
she had what they call a commercial cover,
which is you're pretending to operate a business.
And she, her business was originally their first business was an art dealer.
The CIA investment fund in QTEL gives you seed money to start the business,
but then you actually have to run.
it and she had a fake husband who was also a spy with whom she had a child who is now 16 years old
so I hate to cut you off but she had a fake husband yeah I heard fake husband and
unless he was a fake well they were living together they were living in the same bed yeah sleeping in
the same bed yeah things happened yeah and then they had a fake child or real child a real
child they have an extraordinary child
her husband was involved with some really some challenging situations and has severe, severe PTSD.
And so she has been dealing with that for a lot of her life.
But she spent the rest.
And then she became her second commercial cover was she started a tech company that became very successful.
And Twitter purchased it from her.
And then she left the agency.
She wanted to work for Twitter.
at a high level.
And, but she, somebody said to me the other day, they said, Amaril is the smartest woman I've
ever met.
I said to them, oh, she's the smartest person you've ever met.
And she has just a capacity that, a mental capacity that I've never encountered in anybody.
She's an extraordinary reason our campaign is doing so well as is because of her.
Now, when you're deciding to run for president, obviously there's a lot of controversy between some of your family not supporting what you're doing because it hurts the Democratic Party.
But when you're choosing who's going to run your campaign, was she the easy choice where a lot of people kind of come out of the work?
It was an impossible choice because there's, you know, there was no Democratic and no Republican consulting firm.
Usually you go out and hire one of these consultants who's run, you know, campaigns like David Axelrod has a firm.
and that's all it does.
So you go and contract with one of these firms,
and there's firms that are Democratic,
and there's firms that are Republican,
and they usually don't,
they don't cross the line.
So we looked at all the Democratic firms,
and none of them would work for us,
because if they did, they'd get blackballed by the party,
and they also have union contracts,
and they'd lose all their contracts.
So anybody with experience was not going to work for us.
I got Dennis Kucinich, who had run for president twice, to run my campaign initially.
But then Amarillas, who had really, really encouraged me to run from the outset,
started taking larger and larger responsibilities,
and it became clear how talented she was in every way.
And, you know, running a campaign like this is what we have to do
where we have to get a million signatures,
two million signatures get on the ballot in every state.
And the system was created to be insurmountable
so that nobody could ever do it.
The rules were written by the Republican and Democratic Party
to make sure they didn't have any competition.
So for example, in the state of Maine,
we have to go and get signatures in every town.
There's 400 towns.
And then you have to get those certified by the town clerk.
So you need just an office.
army of people and you have a short period of time span to do that every state is different in new
york you have 45 days to get i think 113 000 signatures and in texas we had to get 130,000 40 days
we ended up getting a quarter million so we're you know we we have a volunteer army we have 50 000
people who we've deployed now and and but i am really really
controlling all that.
And it's just a monumental, logistical accomplishment.
Forgive me for, I just kind of followed the X timeline.
But obviously you've gotten a lot of these signatures,
but then you'll see things where people like,
oh, they're not verified signatures or they're not counting.
Like, what is, what is the DNC?
What we did because they're going to challenge every signature.
So we got doubled to.
triple the number of signatures we need. And, you know, some of them are volunteer gathered,
but some of them are, we pay people to do for us, and they are responsible for validating them,
and we have contractual, they have contractual obligations to make sure they're validated.
The DNC is going to challenge us in every state, so they're going to sue us, and they're going to
say that, you know, they're going to find some problem. But so far, we've won every law,
and I'm very confident that we will win every lawsuit.
You know, we were very, very careful.
And so I'm, you know, I am dead sure that we will be on the ballot in every state by end of August.
Was there ever a point for you gathering these signatures where you thought, man, I don't know if we're going to get this state, this state of that?
Or were you pretty confident the entire time?
You sound confident now, but was there ever a point?
I'm confident now.
I there were there were people who were telling us the you know the concern there was a couple of
consultants and it's a it's a crazy industry and that you know there's that is kind of there's
a whole cottage industry for ballot harvesting and a lot of it is predatory and unscrupulous
and there's all kinds of dirty tricks that they do they you know for example they
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Why do they make it so difficult? You think like it wouldn't be difficult for yourself like being
a Kennedy? Like why does the DNC challenge everything? Why has it been such a difficult
I mean, the DNC didn't want me.
I originally ran as a Democrat.
Right.
You know, I was born in the Democratic Party.
My family has been Democratic office holders since the 19th, since the 1890s.
My great-grandfather, Honey Fitz, was the first Irish Catholic mayor of Boston.
and, you know, my other great-grandfather, Patrick Kennedy, was a political boss and a state senator in Massachusetts.
And so my family was raised in the Democratic Party, and I could never imagine that I would ever leave the Democratic Party.
But I felt like the Democratic Party left me.
and when I tried to run, they passed all of these rules to make sure that I could not win.
So, for example, I was campaigning very, very heavily in New Hampshire,
and I was doing well, and the Democratic Party passed a rule that anybody, any candidate
that steps foot into the state of New Hampshire, which I had already done,
that all of their votes would count for President Biden.
So that's one of the 60 things that they did to make sure that I could not, no matter what
happened, I could not win the nomination.
And it was not, you know, it wasn't democratic.
Democrats are so terrified of Donald Trump that they kind of have tunnel vision and they ignore
a lot of the kind of anything that is done to make sure that Donald Trump is not president is
okay.
And I think that they've departed from a lot of the valuations.
values that made that party so attractive to me growing up.
If you're to put yourself in this now Democratic Party shoes where they're so tunnel vision
in on Donald Trump, why do they fear Trump so much?
What is because everyone's saying that each side is going to ruin democracy.
But it seems like they're so focused on beating each other as opposed to what you've said
in one of your things after Kamala Harris was announced as the next running president for
the Democratic Party.
You said that, you know, everyone's so focused on fighting each other and not focused on the American people.
But where did this massive separation take place?
Was it 2016 or was it happening much before then?
You know, I, it's all kind of driven by a tribalistic impulse.
And I think that it really, that the year, it's been happening since the 1980s.
But the big change here, I think, was 2010.
And that was the year that the Supreme Court issued a decision called Citizens United.
And the Citizens United in, we almost lost democracy in the 1880s and 1890s.
There was, you know, the country was really taken over after the Civil War by these giant robber barons.
There had never been concentrations of wealth like that in America.
And you had these big, these very, very powerful families, like,
John D. Rockefeller, who is as rich now as Elon Musk, I mean, as rich then as Elon Musk is now,
he controlled, I think, about 70 or 80 percent of the oil production in the world, one man.
You had the Morgans, the Carnegie's, Andrew Carnegie, you had the Fricks and the Whitney's,
these very, very powerful robber barons, who sat on interlocking boards of the Sugar Trust,
the oil trust, the rail trust, and they were really running our country.
And at that time, there was no direct election of senators.
So the public did not vote for the senators.
The Senate was chosen by the legislatures.
Legislatures were easy to buy.
For a couple hundred dollars, you could buy a state legislature.
And it was said of the Pennsylvania state legislature at that time that they were the only
legislature that was not for sale because John D. Rockefeller owned everyone.
of them and he wasn't selling any of them. So that is, and then because they controlled the Senate,
they controlled the political parties and they controlled who was going to become president. And
there were no labor laws at that time. There were no labor unions. There was no, there was child
labor. There were no, you know, women couldn't vote. Of course, blacks couldn't vote. And it really
was not, it was no longer a democracy. And then you had a confluence of events occur where you had
an agrarian movement called populism that was democratic where farmers were rising up. And you
had in the cities a group called the progressive movement, which was sort of liberal Republicans
who were good government types. And they joined with the farmers. And they,
they ended up electing Teddy Roosevelt, who was part of the oligarchy.
But he was also idealistic and was willing to stand up.
And he had the confidence to stand up to wealth.
He wasn't scared or intimidated by it.
And he became president.
They passed the Sherman Antitrust Act, and they broke up the standard oil company.
They broke up all of these trusts.
They passed child labor laws.
They passed a 40-hour work week.
They gave women the vote.
they passed an income tax for the first time.
At that time, if you know, John D. Rockefeller paid the same tax as the poorest street sweeper.
So they made wealthy people for the first time pay their share.
They passed a corporate income tax.
And the most important thing they did to restore democracy was in 2008.
they passed a law making it illegal for corporations to donate to federal political candidates.
That law helped restore American democracy. And, you know, we became the exemplary democracy in the
world and everybody began imitating us. When we had the American Revolution, in, you know, 1784,
we were the only democracy in the world. By 1860, the beginning of the Civil War, there were five,
all of them modeled on us. By the time my uncle was president in 1960, there were 150 democracies,
and pretty soon there would be 190, all modeled on the U.S. experiments. So we lived up to our
promise to being the exemplary nation, and it was because we passed all these laws that righted democracy.
The most important was that law that said corporations can't donate to a federal political candidate
in 2010, the Supreme Court issued a decision saying that any restrictions on companies giving to
political candidates is a violation of free speech, that that donation is actually speech
and that it's protected by the First Amendment and any restrictions are illegal.
That released a tsunami of corporate money into the political process.
And so this election is going to cause
prior to 2010, a presidential collection would cause maybe a billion dollars all in.
This one's going to cause 15 billion.
And that money is all coming from billionaires and from, you know, if you want to run for
Senator New York, you've got to get $300 million.
That means you're on the phone all day with millionaires and billionaires.
And you do not have time to talk to ordinary people.
So both political parties became possessed by very wealth, you know, a great wealth, and by corporate control.
And the only way they distinguish themselves is by pointing to the other one saying, you're evil, you're going to be the end of the republic.
And so I think that that's when the stakes really heated up and people just became very, very tribalistic.
I'm in this party.
I'm not going to listen to anybody else.
Anything that's critical of my party,
I'm going to ignore it.
Anything that's, you know,
critical about the other guy,
I'm going to believe it.
And we're all in a position now
where we're being told that if you vote for that guy,
it's the end of the world.
And it's not healthy for our country.
And it's not true either.
Yeah.
You know, we have some institutions
in this country that are strong in prison.
even if, you know, like on January 6th, you know, there were a bunch of people who went into the capital.
But the U.S. military was not supporting them.
This was not a coup d'etat against our country.
It was not, you know, in a sense that it really was a threat to an existential threat to American democracy.
There were a lot of people with bad intention.
There are a lot of people who committed crimes.
They deserved to be in jail.
But in terms of threatening the United States system of government, you know, it's just, it's not true.
It just that's not what it was.
It was not good.
It was bad.
But it, you know, it's been inflated to make it seem like it was that America, the American experience with experiment with self-governance was hanging by thread.
And that just wasn't, you know.
Yeah, right.
We didn't put in this insurance policy before you still.
in the bus because I know we're kind of we're going to have this little time and then somebody's
coming for you to sign a document but this podcast is not built for politics will and I we don't
know anything about something other than politics no no yeah I I'm questions for you everything you
it's the tallest it's the dollar subject it's it's it's no it's it's one of those things though
where it's this is it's so interesting but because of the things you just mentioned like you're
talking about January 6th like it was a bad thing people should be in jail but it wasn't as bad
everybody made it. And now we're looking at everything as this like life or death situation
when really it's taking a, you know, a level-headed individual who knows the system very well
to just say, hey, there are good things and bad things. But to say it's the worst thing or the best
thing, that's where we're getting kind of losing ourselves in this. And we're losing, you know,
we're losing the fact that we're all American and that the values that we share in common are
much larger than these little sort of culture war issues and identity politics issues that are
being used to keep us all apart. And in truth, the people are benefiting from that are these big,
you know, financial interests like BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, these big companies.
Those three companies own 88% of the S&P 500. They're now buying all the, you know, residential housing
and is driving up housing costs in this country.
They're buying all the farmland in our country
and corporatizing agriculture,
and they really are a genuine,
existential threat to democracy.
But you look at what they control both political parties.
They're giving money to both.
They control all the military companies.
They control.
Black Rock is the biggest owner of General Dynamics
of Northwick Grumman, of Boeing, of Lockheed.
So they have the contract to destroy Ukraine, and they also have the contract to rebuild it.
And they're making money both ways.
And all of the policies they're designed are designed to strip mine wealth from the American middle class and shifted upward to this new oligarchy billioners during the COVID lockdowns with 500 days of lockdowns under President Trump and President Biden.
So they're both at fault.
we created a billionaire a day in 500 days, and we shifted $4.3 trillion from the American
middle class to this new, this new aristocracy. And they closed down every business in this
country, 3.3 million businesses, right? That met 41% of the black-owned businesses will never
reopen. And the companies that they kept open were the companies that were contributing to their
parties, you know, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, all of these, you know, these big tech companies
and Verizon and the big communications concerns, the, you know, the oil companies, the big ag
companies, none of them shut down. They were all just raking in the money and now, you know,
and now they're, they don't have any competitive business from little people. And that was the
backbone of the American experience.
small business and it's being just
eviscerated and
we're all pointing
each other and saying you're not really American
and it's
terrible. It's not a good outcome
and it allows these very
very
sort of dark
and powerful people
to, I think, tear the heart out of our
country.
What would be like a practical strategy
to start restoring the middle class?
I feel like a lot of candidates
It's always talk about restoring the middle class.
But for people out there listening that struggle to buy a home, it's like if you're in Nashville and you're trying to buy a single family home, you're looking at several hundred thousand dollars.
And it's almost impossible.
It's almost impossible to buy a home these days.
So what is like a what is like a ducks in the bus right now?
German, is that you back there?
That was me.
That was you?
Ducks are gone now.
Good.
All right.
No longer in season.
That's all right.
That's good.
What would be like a practical strategy that's understood by people listening to this?
I mean, we should pass a lot.
that makes it illegal for these big investment firms to buy thousands of houses.
That's what's happening.
I mean, we all know people who have gone into escrow on a house or they put down money.
And, you know, and the housing prices are climbing.
So two years ago, the average home in this country cost $215,000.
Now it's over $400,000.
And you're paying seven or eight percent interest up from three percent.
And nobody, you know, I have seven.
kids, they're all went to the best schools.
You know, my son, Bobby is 40.
He had a dozen houses.
He and Amarales.
My six younger kids went to the best schools in our country.
They have great jobs and none of them can afford a home.
So if they can't afford a home, there is nobody who can afford a home.
And that generation is going to be the first generation in American history.
That is far worse off than their parent generation.
And they're not going to home.
Home ownership is the core of the American experience.
You know, we, when I was a kid, we had, and my uncle's president, we had, we were the wealthiest
country.
We owned half the wealth on the face of the earth in America.
The American middle class was the greatest economic engine in the history of mankind.
One of the reasons for that was because the industrial base of Europe got obliterated during
World War II, but our factories were still covered.
and we were cranking out cars and television sets and all the things nobody else could build yet.
We had no competition, but also, more importantly, we passed these extraordinary wars.
What laws that said, if you serve in the military, you got to own a home, you got the, you know, the GI Bill,
and you're going to get into a home. And the home at that point costs about seven grand,
and the average income was about almost six grand. So you could, homes were very, very affordable.
And once you own a home, everything changes because now you care about your community.
You care about your schools.
You care about your police.
You care about your transportation.
You care about the health care, what the hospital looks like.
You become part of an investment in your community.
And you care about the appearance of your home and your neighbor's home.
And you, you know, you're invested in it.
But more importantly,
you now have equity, which means you can borrow money.
And if you can borrow money, then you can pursue your entrepreneurial impulses.
And this is something nobody else in the world could do, have that widespread home ownership
that allowed this ferment of entrepreneurial activity in our country where, you know,
if you can borrow money, I get a second mortgage on your home, you can build a yoga studio
or a saloon or a bowling alley or a sporting goods store.
and we started building communities based on that, on the capacity to borrow money.
Well, now we've got a generation that cannot borrow money because they have no equity.
And they are going to be on the sidelines of American capitalism.
And we're going from an ownership society to a renter society.
And when you do that, you go from being citizens to being subjects.
That is the, you know, that's the colonial system.
is the European aristocratic system that we fought a revolution again.
We're the rich people owned all the land, and they loaned all the productivity,
and your only choice was to work for them in one way or another.
You ran to your house from them, and we're going back to that now.
And we've got to reverse that.
And one of the ways to do it is to end the tax breaks that make it profitable for Black Rock State Street,
Vanguard, Fidelity, Blackstone.
to buy all of our land.
You know, everybody, every one of us knows somebody
who put, you know, went into Texas growing home,
was about to sign a contract
and somebody comes in at the last minute
with a cash offer 20% higher than the asking price
and sweet takes it off the table and you're saying,
who just stole my home?
Yeah.
And you go and it's an LLC with an ambiguous name.
In Tennessee, we call it that California.
We say everyone in California's coming in here,
taking our house.
Yeah, that's happening.
Yeah, they're all moving it from out west to here.
Well, that is true in Nashville, too.
Sometimes it's human beings that are taking.
But a lot of times it's all over the country.
It's an LLC with this ambiguous name.
And you follow the lines.
You pull the strings, and it leads you back to BlackRock
and Stade Street and Vanguard and these giant financial houses.
And so our kids are now competing for the price of money
against these Biamuth corporation that even if you had the greatest credit rating in the world,
BlackRock is paying 30% less than you for money.
Of course they can afford that home when you can't, and then they'll rent it back to you,
but they own it.
And that is, you know, what's happening, and we have to make it so they can't do that anymore.
That's number one.
I mean, number two, we have to stop renting money because that is what's driving inflation,
and that is a tax on the point.
It's attacks on middle class, attacks on working people, and it is, it's theft.
And, you know, the reason we have it is to fund the wars, so we're addicted to wars.
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And that, you know, we're spending, you know, we're spending, we're spent $200 billion on that war.
We're going to spend another half trillion dollars to rebuild Ukraine afterward.
And we don't have the money to rebuild Lahaina and Maui.
I was out there where they burned this incredible jewel of a city, you know,
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And, you know, President Biden never visited there.
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renaming Lehina to Kiev.
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With all, you have something?
I was going to say simple brain, simple brain.
Go ahead.
Say we stop printing money.
Say you pass this law to where the corporation stopped buying the housing.
Like, what is the domino?
What does that domino effect look like?
Well, I mean, my simple brain thinks to that question,
things get worse before they get better.
Right?
Like it's darkest before the dawn.
You stop printing money.
You're going to have hit a recession pretty quick because now there's no more money
and we're solely rebuilding.
But don't bring a guy.
Well, here's what you do.
You cannot just, you can't cut your way out of this debt.
We have a $34 trillion debt now.
The cost of servicing that debt, so the money we're paying on the interest is now
larger than our defense budget.
Within five years, 50 cents out of every dollar that is collected in taxes is going to go
it servicing the debt. Within 10 years, 100%. It's not sustainable. When you have a debt that size,
you can't cut your way out of it. What you need to do is cut the things that are not adding to GDP.
So the military, if you build a plane or bomb, then you're sending it somewhere and blowing it up.
And it's like digging a hole and then paying somebody to dig the hole and then to fill it up.
It adds nothing to the economy.
Yeah. There's no goods or services that are accruing to benefit quality of life in our country from building bombs and sending them abroad.
Every million dollars we spend on the military creates two jobs in America.
If you spent that same million dollars on child care, it creates 18 jobs.
So that's what you have to do. And that allows the mother to go if she chooses.
and, you know, I think we should honor motherhood, but the mother, if she chooses, should be
able to leave the home and get a job and pay taxes and create wealth.
And you grow the economy out of the deficit.
You've got to cut spending, you know, some.
You also have to reinvest the money that is misdirected on into, you know, and by the way,
we're spending twice now what we were at the height of the Cold War in real dollars.
And that money is not about national defense.
It's about global domination.
What I would do is what my grandfather won when my uncle Jack Kennedy did,
which is to create fortress America,
make ourselves arm ourselves to the teeth in home,
make ourselves too expensive to conquer,
have enough military power to protect the sea lanes,
protect neutral areas like the Arctic,
Antarctic and to protect and then to fight two small confrontations in different theaters
of the world to punish bad behavior if we need to.
And then take that other money and spend it making a lot of people's lives better at
rebuilding our industrial base at home, which we don't have anymore.
We can't fight a war anymore because we don't, we were able to fight World War II
because we had these vast factories better than anybody else in the world.
that were creating automobiles, and we were able to make tanks and airplanes.
And today, now, in the last 20 years, we've exported all our industrial base to China.
Oh, China can fight a war right now.
And China can beat us in a war because it has an industrial base and we no longer have.
And we can't build tanks and ships and, you know, a ship a day like we were doing during World War II.
people aren't even realizing this how weak our country is because we've allowed our industrial
base to be exported and we need to bring it back here and start rebuilding the American middle class.
I don't think it gets worse.
I think we start realigning that money very quickly to things that actually improve people's lives.
Like childcare is one of those things.
That is one of the quickest ways to start rebuilding the economy and then changing the rules
to make it much easier for kids to get into houses, you know, and buy their own house.
I'll tell you something when I was a kid, when I was in 1964, my uncle was killed in 63.
And my father was shattered by that and really began constantly.
coming out of it took him like nine months to even, you know, to begin to kind of function again.
And we were invited by a anti-communist group to come to Poland, which was then a communist country.
And we went to Poland, my brothers, two of the older siblings, I had 11 siblings.
And I was on the third.
So me and my, and the top four siblings went to Poland.
The Polish government didn't want us there, and they made that clear.
And they didn't want the Polish people to know we were in.
And all of the people, all of news of our presence in the country was blacked out on the official news, which was, you know, which all stayed on media.
So, in fact, two days before, we went, we went to Sears and Robock and we went to Woolworths in Washington, D.C., and we bought presents with my mom for kids that we were going to go to an orphanage and distribute these gifts.
You know, everybody wanted American stuff at that point.
Everybody wanted to.
We're the only ones making transistor radios, making, like, automobiles, making blue jeans.
Everybody wanted American stuff.
we went bought toys and apparel, you know, clothing for these kids.
And we get to Warsaw.
We go to the orphanage and the Polish government had removed all the children
because they didn't want us to have any contact with the Polish people.
Two days later, we went to Krak out to visit his cardinal.
And the cardinal was a living saint.
I grew up a Catholic.
We were at the Rosary twice at age.
we went to church twice a day.
We prayed before and after every meal.
We read the Bible.
I have a very Catholic family.
We read the lives of the saints.
And the cardinal who was presided over the cathedral of the Black Montana, which is in Krakow, Square, had stood up to the communists.
He had been jailed.
He had been tortured.
He had endured those challenges with such piety and, and, and, and, and, and, you had, and, and,
bravery that he inspired a religious resurgence in the Catholic Church in Poland. And everybody
knew the minute he died, the Catholic Church was going to beatify him as a saint. So we knew as
kids that we were going to meet somebody who was a living saint, which to us, that was the biggest
deal in our lives. And we went into Grecois, when we went through Grecois Square, we were the only
car in the square. And there weren't too many cars in Poland at that time. And there was a,
You actually, I think that's a picture of what happened then.
We went into Krakow Square and there was nobody in it.
We were the only car there.
We met for a couple of hours with the Cardinal.
And in fact, a young priest made us chicken sandwiches in the kitchen
when we were waiting for the Cardinal.
And that priest later became Pope John Paul the second.
But we met with the Cardinal.
Then we come out in Krakow Square and that crowd, a million people are waiting for us.
And the word had spread through word of mouth and they had shut down all of the shops in Krakow.
And all the entire population that the city had come out to see our family, to see an American because they loved our country.
And we were stuck in the sea of people.
The embassy limo couldn't move.
my father pulled us all out of the back window
with the car under the roof
and we stood there and watched this huge crowd
and you know you could see me there with my little shorty shorts
yeah
young Robert man that's awesome
and they were they started singing to us
a stow lot
which means may you live forever
and then they started singing this anthem does
which the ambassador said that song is illegal
for them to sing.
You go to jail if you sing that song.
And the whole crowd was singing it.
And there was just tears
flowing down their faces
and they were reaching up.
You can see them to touch.
You know, I was signing autographs
as a little 10-year-old kid.
And, you know, my father,
they were reaching up to touch.
Yeah, just learn cursive.
Exactly.
So, and you know, on that trip,
because these people loved America.
And on that trip, we went to England, we went to France, we went to Germany,
went to Italy, Greece.
Everywhere we went, the same thing happened.
These spontaneous crowds coming out of nowhere just because they were so proud of America.
And, you know, my uncle had made a commitment.
He said when he told his best friend, he said,
his best friend Ben Bradley had said to him,
what do you want in your gravestone?
And he said, my uncle said immediately he kept the peace.
He said the primary job of a president of the United States
to keep the country out of war.
My uncle had been in the war.
He had two of my uncles died in the war,
including his brother 20 years later, you know, 30 years later,
if I mentioned Uncle Joe's name to my grandfather,
he'd burst into tears because he was the golden child.
He was the oldest brother.
And, you know, he was the guy that they had invested all this promise in.
There's pictures of him just before he died.
He volunteered for a suicide mission.
And his, you know, his plane was blown up.
It was the first remote control flying bomb.
And he was, and he flew it.
He was killed.
My other uncle, who was, you know, married to my aunt, to Kit Kennedy, also died.
in the first days of the war
my uncle Jack had been lost at sea
his
his
his tea boat was cut in two by
in a fog in the blackestrates off the
Solomon Islands by a Japanese destroyer
and he had been on the Harvard swim team
he had swum six miles
one of his crew had been badly burned
two were killed he swam six miles
with a lanyard in his teeth dragging
this guy who had been badly burned and then they hid out on an island for 10 days and then
two Solomon Islanders came to that island and he and they were collecting coconuts and they hated
the Japanese because they were the colonizers. My uncle wrote his coordinates onto a coconut
and they buried it under a pile of coconuts and those Solomon Islanders went 30 miles across
the blackets across the ocean and gave the coconut
to the British headquarters.
My uncle was rescued,
but he was the only president
who's ever won the Purple Heart.
So he was a warrior, you know,
and he wanted to keep the country out of war.
Incidentally, I'll tell you a funny story.
During his inauguration,
I was seven years old,
and he invited the captain of the Japanese destroyer
that it sunk him to his inauguration as an honored guest.
And I got to meet him that, you know, that he was the guy who sank Uncle Jack and almost killed him.
And he was an admiral in the Navy.
But my uncle also invited the two Solomon Islanders who had rescued him.
And the British governor of the Solomon Island was embarrassed by their appearance because they had never worn shoes and they were wearing loin claws.
You know, they, and they didn't speak any English.
so he chose two kind of presentable Solomon Islanders and sent them instead.
You know, some of the civilized one.
And my uncle Jack was so pissed off at him.
And, you know, he never got to see him again.
But about 10 years ago, my little brother, Max, went to the Solomon Islanders with Robert Ballard,
who was the undersea explorer who found that he discovered the Titanic, right?
And they were looking for PT 109.
and they found it, they found like an engine,
a little small part of an engine block.
Those B-T boats were made a plywood,
so they, you know, nothing's left of the original hull.
But they found a little piece of it.
But while they were in the Solomon Islanders,
my brother met those two guys.
They're still alive.
And they were both wearing t-shirts
that said, I rescued John F. Kennedy.
So awesome.
And my brother said,
when they were introduced to him, they both burst into tears.
They knelt on the ground and were kissing his feet, which was a cultural thing.
And that, you know, he was crying and they were crying.
He just said it was incredible.
But anyway, my uncle knew, you know, he resisted all.
They tried to get him to go into Laos.
In 61, he refused.
They tried to get him there.
There's the guys.
That's a great picture.
They tried to get him to go into Vietnam, and he refused.
They tried to get him to go into Berlin.
They twice tried to get him to go into Cuba.
And he wouldn't do it.
He never sent a combat troop abroad to die.
And a month before he died, in October 22nd, 1963, he, you know, he ended up sending 16,000 advisors to Vietnam to teach them how to, you know,
to teach them how to their helicopter pilots
and they were green berets.
Under the rules of engagement,
they weren't supposed to fight,
but they did anyway.
And for reasons you can imagine.
And he heard that one of them got killed.
And he asked Walt Rostow,
who was one of his,
his aids, to give him a casualty list
of all of the American casualties.
And Walt Rostel came back in there,
75 Americans that died.
And he said, that's too many.
I'm bringing them all home.
And that afternoon, he signed an order called National Security Order 263,
ordering all U.S. military personnel home from Vietnam by 65, by 1965,
with the first thousand coming home in December of 1963.
Oh, that would have been six weeks later.
30 days of the day after he signed that order, he was murdered.
And then a week after that, President Johnson remanded the order,
ended the order. Johnson sent 250,000 troops, which they'd been trying to get my uncle Jack
to do. And then, you know, my father ran against the war in 68, and he, you know, he was killed
running against the war. Martin Luther King, two months before my dad died, Martin Luther
became, King had become a peace activist. He was killed. And then Nixon became president and, you know,
sent over 560,000 Americans, 56,000 of them never came home.
We killed a million Vietnamese.
My cousin, George Skakel, died over there during the 10th offensive.
And, you know, again, it was a war that should have never happened.
My uncle knew that.
And but because of that, because of his commitment, he said, I don't want a,
I don't want African kids and Asian kids and Latin American kids when they,
hear about the United States of America to think of a guy in a uniform with a gun. I want him to think
of a Peace Corps volunteer. I want him to think of the USAID program and the Alliance for Progress,
which was supposed to put America, you know, on the side of the poor and help grow middle class
in this country and not, you know, be giving weapons to everybody. And he succeeded in doing that.
And because of that, there's now more statues to my uncle, more universities named after more parks, more roads, avenues, boulevards, and Africa, Asian, and Latin America than any other U.S. president in history, and probably more than all of them combined.
And that's a good foreign policy because, you know, he wanted to project economic power abroad, but not military power.
And the strategy of projecting military power has made us now, you know, enormously unpopular.
And it's pushed Russia and China and Iran together and a terrible, terrible alliance for the United States.
It's created the BRICS organization, which is now about to destroy the U.S. dollar is the global reserve currency.
And, you know, none of that is good for our country.
It's all bad.
It's all because we lead with the military
other than leading with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We've got to do the notary thing.
But by the way, your your storytelling ability is incredible.
Like I know that all of our mouths are wide open.
Listening to you tell these incredible.
So it's the first person I've ever heard it.
It is an honor.
It really is awesome.
It is awesome.
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I think you were after, was it still called RFK when you were there?
Yes.
When did it stop?
I don't know.
I forgot when they closed.
But we had a
My mom was, I mean, you know, these are.
And we're back on.
We're starting to cover that he is a football guy.
Yeah.
I mean, I grew up with Redskins,
particularly because they played it.
You know, they renamed the stadium after my dad.
When my dad was killed in 68.
And my mother,
Edward Bennett, Williams, here I am catching a football throne.
And I did catch that bad house, by the way.
By my uncle, who had a beautiful arm.
And my dad was the smallest guy on the most successful Harvard football to him in history.
They loved football.
And so they named the RFK Stadium after my dad.
And we had, we always had reskins in our house.
And we had the green berets.
I grew up also with a lot of green berets in our house.
My uncle started the Navy Seals.
And he allowed the, the Pentagon wanted to take the beret away from the green berets.
They thought because they, it was, you know, it wasn't, they, they viewed it as a kind of defiance or something.
My uncle allowed them to keep it, and they were always very grateful to him, and he's kind of their patron president to this day.
And we had Major Ruddy, who was the head of the Green Berets, was at our house all the time.
They were firing grappling out.
We had a four-story house in Virginia, and they would come to our house and do these demonstrations.
They would fire grappling hooks up onto the roof, and they would come, you know, climb up there,
and then rappel down.
I went to Fort Bragg,
and I also went to their training camp,
and El Junque, which is down in Puerto Rico,
when I was a kid.
But they also built, like, a full-scale obstacle course at our house,
like a military obstacle course in one of the pastures, you know, at our house.
And my mom every year would have a pet show.
It was, like, a benefit for an orphanage in Washington, D.C.,
and people would come through.
Thousands of people come and you had to bring a pet to get into the pet show.
There was a lot of funny stories that happened there, but the Redskins would come and run the obstacle course.
And they had, you know, competitions on their obstacle course every year.
And Joe Thaisman, he came very, very close to my mom.
And he was, I grew up with Sonny Jurgensen.
And, you know, all these old guys.
were they your team
was that your team growing up?
What do you think about them
changing the name to commanders?
What do you think?
I think it needs to be HTTR.
Hail to the Redskins.
Yeah, HCTR is the acronym that
Washington fans would you call them.
Redskins.
Oh, the Redskins.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like they would say that, yeah, HCTR would be like,
their hashtag.
Yeah, HCTR is like the fan base.
Hail to the Redskins.
Hail to the Redskins.
their fight song and everything.
They obviously change the name to the commanders.
And that's always like a topic of discussion in the football world.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is, you can understand why the name, a little iffy, but it's.
I have problems with, I don't know, I have problems with a lot of, a lot of that stuff.
And I, you know, I've worked on indigenous issues on my whole life.
20% of my career has been working for Indians and, you know, negotiating treaties.
in Latin America, in the United States, and in Canada, and in litigating on behalf of,
and I can't speak polluters and stuff.
So I'm very sensitive to those issues, but I was sad to see the change.
That was well done.
That was a great, great answer.
Navigating those waters.
I don't know if I navigated that.
Are you, are you, uh, it's a tough deal.
Are you hard sometimes?
Are you a college football guy?
Are you more pro?
More NFL.
More NFL.
Yeah.
I, my wife is a rabid, um, fan.
And she was asked by, um, she went to the University of Central Florida.
And yeah, my dad, you know, you know what's interesting.
My dad, because I'm watching this picture of my dad.
And I think that's a, I think that's a hopey in that he's,
he's with. And we went to all the reservations when I was growing up to the Comanchees,
to the Cherokee, to Mohawk, to Hopi to Navajo. Everywhere we went, he would take us to a reservation.
They were always Indians in our house. He had a bunch of Ascomos. We had a freak snowstorm in
Washington one time. And there were a bunch of Ascomos visiting my father at the Justice Department.
and he brought them all home for lunch,
and they built this huge igloo in our backyard.
It was very, very cool.
That's awesome.
But my father, in 1968,
he went out to the Pine Ridge Reservation
where I've spent a lot of time in South Dakota.
And he spent a whole day there.
There were 20,000 white people waiting for him
in Rapid City.
and his aides were saying, you've got to go because Indians don't vote anyway.
And he said, I don't care.
And he spent the whole day out there.
He saw a group of zoo living in an automobile, a family living in a burned out, a hulk of an automobile.
And it made him cry.
It's the only time other than when his brother died that anybody had ever seen him cry.
And that word spread on the reservation.
And a few weeks later, when he, on the last day,
of his life, he won the state of South Dakota because he got virtually 100% of the vote on the
Pine Ridge and also all the other Sioux Reservations, Rosebud, Standing Rock, and North Dakota.
But he won all of the Sioux vote, and it put him over the edge.
So the last day of his life, he won the most rural state in our country, which was South Dakota,
and most urban, and it was because of the Indian boat.
But when he was at Pine Ridge that time, this is 1968.
He met a woman who had been at Custer's Last Stand.
That always impressed me a lot, because Custer's Last Stand sounds like it was, you know,
a long time ago, but it was only, it was 90 years before, you know, it was in 1876.
Oh, and the whole Sioux Nation was at the little big Horn River on having a powwow.
There were men, women, and children.
And this little girl was a little girl living in a teepee when they went out and killed Custer.
And she then met my father when he was running for president 90 years later.
That's unbelievable.
You just talked about your uncle and your father and both of them passing, being assassinated.
And the common denominers that you said and with the stories you were telling us everything is like they were standing up for something that they wanted them to do.
And now you sit here trying to be the next president of the United States.
And there's so many things that you're standing up for against these big companies who if you are elected, you're going to hurt their pockets a lot.
Like where all the stuff going on like Trump, there's an assassination attempt on him.
You just now get secret service.
Like where is the, why is this?
so big to you why why is this so important that you're willing to put your life at risk
i mean my whole um life has been kind of uh you know committed to our country and you know i just
i felt like you know the country was going off the rails and and and um that the people who
should know what america is supposed to look like like they would they they had forgotten
or something. And I felt like somehow all the people that I trusted to take care of business
were not taking care of it. And that I kind of had a unique ability to remind people what
our country is supposed to look like, that we're supposed to be an exemplary nation,
that we're supposed to protect our Constitution, that there's not supposed to be censorship
of free speech, even during pandemics. You're not supposed to close down all the churches
you're not supposed to close down the businesses.
You're not supposed to suspend jury trials,
all the things that the Constitution guarantees us.
And then we're turning into a warfare state
and it's destroying the American middle class.
And I just see everything.
I don't want my kids,
I want my kids to have the same love for our country
and hope for their futures that I grew up with.
It was a poll taken in 2013
where they polled American young people between 18 and 35,
and they asked them, are you proud of the United States?
And the 85% said yes.
And the same poll taken five months ago,
only 17% said yes.
Oh, shit.
Somehow in the last, you know, in the administration,
the last two administrations,
you have an entire generation of kids
who have,
has lost their pride in America, who are not proud to be Americans.
Right.
You know, and you guys grew up proud to be Americans, right?
Proud of everything.
So that to me is heartbreaking.
You know, that my kids are part of that generation.
My kids are proud, but they're part of a generation that's not only lost their pride
in our country, but they've lost their hope for their own futures.
And I just feel like I got to do something.
Right.
In the last two weeks, obviously it's been a crazy last couple weeks.
But in your opinion, like what's happening with the Biden administration, he seemed excited to run?
Then all of a sudden, they report that he is falling out.
Kamala Harris is now going to take over.
What is kind of unfolding on that side?
I mean, let me ask you guys something because you're not focused on politics.
But didn't you?
I'm scared with this question.
You're making me draw a line
and my whole thing is playing with both sides of the fence.
This isn't like Democrat or Republican,
but I was not surprised
by the bad performance in the debate
because I was watching just YouTube videos
of all of these
all of these revealing videos
that indicated that
President Biden was
having cognitive impairments, that he was, you know, that he was having some kind of cognitive
degeneration. And so I always thought that, you know, he's going to get, the debate's going to be
a bad night for him because he's okay when he was talking with a teleprompter, but he never did
unscripted encounters with voters. And he didn't do debates. He didn't do debates. He didn't do
down halls, all the things that politicians normally do, they kept them from doing that. He had fewer
press conferences than any president in history during this term. I was not surprised. And it was
kind of weird to me that people acted surprise. And then the whole country pivoted against all,
the whole media empire pivoted against them and said, oh, wow, this is a huge shock. And I'm like,
I was shot. The thing that shocked me is that people were acting shocked. So I don't, there's no point to
this.
It's not a good story.
I feel like people weren't necessarily shocked.
You're kind of tuning in for the entertainment factor what's about to go down.
Yeah.
Because you expected something.
Like it was like, you know, I said this the other day.
It was every time I saw him on TV, it was like watching your five-year-old play on a jungle gym for the first time.
You're like, oh, God.
Something bad could happen.
What are your emotions when you see Biden in his comments?
cognitive functioning because you've, I've saw, I listened to your Rogan podcast,
I listen to you on Dr. Phil and you've had a longstanding relationship with him.
What kind of person was Joe Biden 20, 30 years ago compared to now?
He was, well, I look at him now and I feel like he's, you know,
just that he's very, he's old and people age differently.
I know people who have dementia, and I have relatives who have dementia, and he acts like somebody who has, you know, dementia.
You know, Joe Biden I knew was a very, very sweet man, you know, after my cousin Kara died.
and you know my my uncle had passed my uncle teddy had already passed and then his daughter
passed and by and without saying anything to anybody showed up at her funeral and her memorial and
stay through the whole thing and you know spent the night with the family and all that and he didn't
do it he did it just because you know he had compassion oh i felt like he was that guy it felt like
He was from Scrant in Pennsylvania, that he was on the side of working people.
And, you know, I mean, he always had problems with words.
And he had some challenges during his lifetime with saying things that weren't true.
But I thought, generally speaking, that he was, you know, committed to high ideals.
and he's a guy who spent 50 years in service of the country.
And, of course, there's benefits to being in political power.
There's also tremendous sacrifices.
And I think both Republicans and Democrats who make that choice,
that it's not an easy way to live.
It's a really difficult way to live.
And most people, I think, could do other stuff.
And so I respect anybody who makes that choice,
even if I don't agree with them.
I think that's my best.
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There were rumors of Aaron Rogers being your VP at one point in time.
Was there ever a formal invites in?
I talked to him about it.
Yeah, I talked to him about it.
I, you know, I asked him, I asked him, I asked him,
I ask him, would he do it?
And I really love Aaron Rogers.
I think he's got tremendous courage and he does, he's committed to, you know, he's a guy
who does critical thinking.
And he's somebody who, you guys don't think a lot about politics.
He's thinking about it all the time.
He's, you know, skeptical of authority.
And he has a very, very interesting mind.
He's fascinating to talk to.
And so, and I think he would, you know, and he's curious about everything.
my uncle when he first met Jackie, who, you know, he ended up marrying, she was a reporter,
I think it was for the Harold, and she was doing an interview with him, and she asked him
what he thought his best quality was, and she assumed that he was going to say courage
because his own history of, you know, demonstrating physical bravery.
and then he had written a book called Profiles and Courage that was about moral courage among, you know,
of political leaders in our country, of political leaders who had made choices that benefited our country and ruined their careers.
And knowingly did that.
And he wrote a whole, you know, he wrote, it's a series of stories about these people who torched their own careers.
And he had won a Pulitzer Prize for that book.
So Jackie assumed that he was going to probably say that courage was the strongest, his best,
but he said curiosity.
He said that was his greatest attribute, the virtue that was most important to him politically.
And I understand why he said that because it's one of the ways that he was able to keep peace
because he was
curious about how Khrushchev saw the world.
He was curious about how Kastro saw the world.
He, you know, he ended up with Khrushchev having this extraordinary.
We had, you know, during that time when my uncle came into office,
the CIA didn't know anything about what was happening in the Kremlin
because there was a mole in Langley.
and as soon as they got a spy, a high-level person, the Kremlin would know within days, and they'd kill the guy.
And so it was just a dark space for them.
And the way that they explained what was happening to the Kremlin to my uncle, and it was kind of monolithic, and they all were bent on world domination, and that they had a plan, and they were all working together.
My uncle was like, I don't think that that's possible.
He said it's got to be like Boston, where they all, you know, are trying to stab each other and they're fighting with each other and they have different worldviews.
And there's some good ones and some bad ones.
And he was really curious about it.
And he went to meet.
There's a picture here of him in his first meeting with Khrushchev in Vienna.
And that was at the beginning of his presidency.
And he was very, very hopeful of finding a path to peace with Khrushchev.
the Khrushchev rebuffed him.
And Khrushchev was very bombastic, and he gave him a lecture on U.S. imperialism and said that
he wasn't scared of the United States.
And that, you know, the Russians had won the war, not the United States against the Nazis,
which, you know, was pretty true.
And that they could take any punishment.
They weren't scared of anything.
and sent my uncle away, really discouraged.
But Khrushchev was an interesting guy
because he had been in the war.
He'd been a general, and he was at the worst battle in the war,
which was Stalingrad, where they were eating each other,
literally.
They were, there was widespread cannibalism.
They ate the dogs, they ate the horses,
and then they started eating each other.
And he saw things that, you know, nobody, you know,
just terrible, terrible.
terrible things. He did not want another war. And Russia had lost one out of every seven of its citizens
during that war. The Russians just, you know, took the full brunt of Hitler. And then after the
Cuban Miss, the confrontation at Checkpoint Charlie, which is there were two tank battalions
that were facing each other off on the one when they were building, when the Russians were building
the Berlin Wall.
Because all of the Germans from the part of Russia that was occupied, East Germany, which
was occupied by the Soviets, they all wanted to get out to the U.S. side.
And so they were coming over.
And so the Russians solved that problem by building a wall, this terrible wall at last
until 1993.
And during that period, a U.S. general named Lucius Clay, Hutt Bull,
bulldozer plows on the front of tanks and went to plow down the wall.
And Russian tank division met him on the other side at a crossing called Checkpoint Charlie.
And we were moments away from nuclear confrontation.
And my uncle sent a message to Khrushchev.
And Khrushchev said, my back is to the wall.
He said, we got to, my uncle said, we got to solve this.
we cannot start bombing each other.
And Khrushchev said, my back is to a wall.
I cannot go farther back.
And what he was saying to my uncle is,
I'm surrounded by people here who want this.
And I'm limited in what I agree with you.
I don't want this for, but you got to help me somehow.
And they ended up helping each other to solve that crisis.
And after that, they developed this relationship.
this relationship of trust.
And we had, when I was growing up,
my parents had a,
there was a Soviet spy
who was, he worked for the GRU,
which is the military
spy agency.
And for the KGB.
And this was the time the first James Bond film
started coming out. So, you know,
we knew all about Russian spies
because they were in the James Bond films.
And so we were very,
very excited when my parents began bringing this guy to our house.
His name is Georgie Paul Skoyce.
And they had met him at the Soviet embassy at a party.
And he was very charming.
He was kind of a squat.
He was a real athlete.
He could climb a rope with his legs stuck out like that.
He would do push-up contest with my father.
He could do the Cossack dancing where, you know, he'd stay at the table.
Yeah.
Which is very hard to do.
It looks very difficult.
My knees, there'd be no shot.
Yeah, exactly.
Were you at an ACL?
Yeah, an ACL and then another one two years later.
Yeah, so you can't do it.
I can't do it.
But I can watch and appreciate other people doing it.
I know we've got to get you out of here in just a few minutes.
Anyway, I just finished telling this real quick.
Yeah, yeah, sorry.
Which is that Georgie Balshkoi, my parent, the State Department hated the fact that my parents were seeing a, we're having a Soviet spy at their home.
We all loved him and they loved him because he was really joyful and he was buoyant.
But Khrushchev trusted him and my uncle trusted him.
And Khrushchev began smuggling letters to my uncle.
And the first letter he sent him and he sent him in New York Times,
George Balshkoi folded the letter into New York Times and smuggled it to my father.
And the first letter apologized for what he had done in Vienna and said we got off to it.
bad start and he said, I'm sitting in my dacha in the Black Sea and I'm watching children play
and I'm thinking we don't have a right to kill these children. And my uncle then sent him back a letter
saying I'm sitting in. Ina's sport watching my nieces nephews play with my children and, you know,
they have a right to grow up to write poetry and to play baseball and to, you know, be political
leaders in this and if we blow it for them it's our crime and they started writing each other and they
hit it from their own intelligence apparatus their own note they were both realized they were surrounded
by warhawks and the intelligence apparatus in the military and that they were isolated in their own
governments and that they found each other and that they had to keep the countries out of the war and
And they wrote 26 letters to each other.
The last one was sent the day by Crucef the way, the day that my uncle died.
And they were making plans to end the arms race earlier, get rid of all the nuclear weapons,
and to join each other in making the world better for humanity.
And, you know, Crucief was deposed right after my uncle was murdered.
But it was because of my...
Uncle's capacity for curiosity that he just could not believe that Crucef was the sinister evil
character that had been made it, that he had to be more multidimensional than that.
Yeah.
Been portrayed as.
Honestly, I know we've got to get you out of here.
But I wish we could, is that how we want to spend our last five minutes?
Well, I don't know if we have five.
Do we have five?
Two minutes.
So we have two minutes.
We'd love to have literally two more hours.
Like just listening and sitting and kind of learning about what it's like growing up as Kennedy, your uncle, your dad, the things they've gone through.
The things you've gone through has been amazing.
And I know that with these long form podcasts, you really believe it's a new form of media where people get to learn different views instead of just the mainstream media.
So people that are listening to you right now for the first time, what would be the message that you would want to send to them?
I mean, I would ask them go look at our website at Kennedy 24.com.
And don't vote out of fear.
Don't vote because you think that guy is going to end the republic, so you have to vote for
your guy or this guy.
If Americans vote for hope, I have the highest favorability rating of any candidate
is running higher than President Trump, higher than Kammel much higher than either of them.
People voted for the person they want to vote for a win.
Most Americans now are being taught to vote out of fear.
If you vote for Bobby, it's a wasted vote, so you've got to vote for Trump or Biden, and 85% of Americans don't want to vote for either.
And my job is, you know, over the next four months, is to convince people to vote out of hope and out of inspiration and out of, you know, belief in our country rather than out of fear.
I would ask people to go to Kennedy24.com
look at our positions on the issues.
We've tried to, what I've tried to, I don't feed into the vitriol to the marginalization.
I don't, the polarization.
I don't attack President Trump or President Biden.
I talk about their issues where they're wrong, but personally I don't attack them.
And I, you know, I've tried to find the issues that,
the values that unite us all as Americans rather than focusing on the culture war issues that are
used to keep us at each other's throats. And, you know, those landscapes of things that we share
in common America are so much broader and the little stuff that, you know, is orchestrated
to keep us apart. Man, thank you for coming on. This has been an honor. This is obviously a big
year for our country for Nebraska going after the Big Ten title. And we really appreciate you coming on.
We do appreciate you coming on
This has been a very cool experience
I'm just waiting for year 10
I'm just waiting for here, Chadne.
You already know that's all we need it
Robert, you just lost a vote for me
man, that's Tom.
Yes, sir, you know we needed that, boys.
Man, who plugged that in your ear
before you walked in?
He's a fan.
Washington.
He's a Washington.
Come on, man.
He's got a good team.
He's got a good group of boys behind them, huh?
He watched, he watched the boy.
He watched the boy back when I played for Washington.
Yeah.
Captain.
Yeah, Captain.
Captain. Captain the team.
We do appreciate it.
This is awesome.
I mean, this bus started in a gravel parking lot on a hot spot and stealing power from an RV company.
And to be sitting here with you is pretty cool.
So we really appreciate it.
Thanks for having me.
It's really fun talking to you guys.
Yeah.
Thanks for the stories.
It was unbelievable.
We need to get out on that obstacle course.
It sounds like.
Yeah.
Kennedy Compound, next podcast.
Yeah.
We'll be there.
Appreciate you guys.
Subscribe, rate five stars.
We'll talk to you soon.
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Yeah.
One team photo, one squad photo.
Can we do it in here?
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