Bussin' With The Boys - Ryan Blaney Talks Winning NASCAR Cup Series Championship + If Drivers Shake And Bake

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Recorded: November 29th 2023 | On this weeks episode the boys recap the wild weekend that was in the College Football and NFL landscape. Michigan jumped up to the #1 ranking and are now matched up with Alabama in the semi finals for the College Football Playoff. Will and Taylor give their honest thoughts on whether or not they agree with the committee's decision to leave out an undefeated Florida State from the playoff. Plus Taylor is still on the boat of Michigan vs. Everybody and how Michigan should embrace this underdog attitude going up against Alabama. The boys also get into the good, bad and the ugly from the NFL week. So notable things that made the list, Chargers beating the Patriots by only scoring 6 points, the ref got his leg broken by Alvin Kamara and Packers beating the Chiefs. You can take a guess as to which events fall in what category. Following the intro, the boys are joined by 2023 NASCAR Cup Series Champion, Ryan Blaney. We didn't have Ryan for very long but the boys made the most of the time that we did have. Will and Taylor aren't the biggest of NASCAR fans so some of the questions that are asked make no sense but are hilarious. Including when Will asked if the drivers "Shake and Bake" and use the "Slingshot" method from one of the best sports movies of all time, Talladega Nights. This interview allows Ryan to show his true self and he fit in perfect with the boys. Enjoy TIMESTAMPS 0:00 intro 4:10 we are a top 10 pod 9:45 the good 15:55 college football play off 35:45 the bad 42:10 barstool survivor 56:06 the ugly 1:01:50 twisted question 1:05:00 back of the bus gets some shine 1:09:36 titans recap 1:12:05 blaney interview starts 1:12:10 big golf guy 1:13:55 the boys get after it drinking 1:16:24 his biggest rival 1:18:14 his pet peeve of racing 1:21;00 did he want to be a racer growing up 1:23:22 he used to live on dales property 1:26:38 how do you make it in nascar 1:31:42 the moment when he knew he made it 1:32:28 talladega nights 1:39:27 his acting career 1:41:25 shittiest momentFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah. No, I was actually, since I was on the hunting trip in Texas over the weekend, all the boys were asked me about the ZR2. Were they really? Because they were like, hey, Will, do you still have that? Not going to say the truck that I used to have. Hey, Will, you still have that truck? I was like, no. I was like, ever since the boys got in with Chevy, I was like, I came out, I came out of pocket and got that ZR2.

They're like, they were asking about the ZR2. They're like, is it kind of like the ZC? The Z-71, I guess the Chevy trucks used to be like Z-71, that package. Kind of like that sporty off-road package. But I was giving him some game. You put them on? Yeah, I'll put him on game, yes. What's my boy Trent up to, dude?

Just being a man of the world of the country. Yeah. You ask him where he's... True patriot. Yeah, you ask him where he's from. And honestly, he could legitimately just say America because he's... He travels essentially all year round just all over the country to go hunting. With just his dog, right?

Yeah, it's two dogs. What's the one dog that we were talking about? talking about. The breed that's like the most, they listen the most. Oh, Malamore. Yeah, yeah. He has one of those. And he, I mean, it's a stud. But yeah, that thing does like everything he wants to do. Climes up houses, jumps on cars, jumps up in his arms for loving. But he's got a little like trailer bed that he'll just drive around with the boys. Trent in high school, man, I never expected. I didn't know Trent very well, but you knew of Trent obviously. And he's doing what I feel like every man growing up wants to do.

at some point in their life. No, he is. There's a point where you're like, man, what if I just get a truck and a couple of dogs and just live on the earth? Yeah. And does he own a home?

Yeah, he owns a home there. It's out in Michigan. But yeah, he's, he's all over the place. He legitimately, he was talking about this hunting trip that he did with his brothers where they're just out in Utah and they're just camping. They're making their own fires.

They're figuring out their own food, like doing all the stuff that men, you know, think about doing. But not actually hard enough to do. Right, right. It's one of those thoughts when you're watching it on a, discovery or something like that.

You're like, I'm going to do that. And then you wake up the next day, you're like, it's a little cold. I think, you're just, yeah, you think in your mind, like when it's going on, there's this part of you that's like, I kind of wish my back was up a wall like that. Like, I know I'd be able to do nobody else would. And you're kind of like, yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. Bed feels kind of nice.

No one's taking me down. We, uh, did you say before the Chevy, the Ryan Blaney? Yeah, we had a Ryan Blaney on. If you're here for Ryan Blaney, this is the best thing to do because Mitch does a great job putting together the YouTube, the chapters and everything like that. or if you're on audio, you're on video, if you're on YouTube, number one, subscribe to the boys. If you're new here and you haven't subscribed, consider subscribing to the boys helping us out. But if you're here for Ryan Blaney and NASCAR talk and all that cool stuff,

figure out in the description where the time stamp is at, and you can just fast forward there. I know everybody goes through a phase of, man, how long are the intro is going to be? This is how a bust with the boys does the intros. We talk a lot about whatever, basically. It's not really an intro. It's just a full episode and then the interviews at the back. But just search in the description, find the timestamp, click on it. That's where that interview will be.

Or if you're listening to audio, look in the description as well. It'll kind of tell you, and you can fast forward in case you don't want to. But we talk, I mean, this is. This is it. You're hearing it right now. And let me just tell you, too, you can do what Will just said, jump forward. But we have a lot of fun on this bus. Yes.

And if you are joining for the first time, there's a lot of banter, a lot of good times. If you're missing your boys from back home, maybe you're traveling. You want a little piece of that. That's what we're here for it. And I don't know if you guys heard the news. We're Top 10 podcast on Spotify, dude. That's right. Was that not surprising?

Sports podcast. Hold on. Yeah, just for clarity. Top 10 in America. Well, he's just saying if it's a football, like we're talking all sports. Yeah, we're sports, baby. We do it all. Ryan Blaney's a perfect example, dude.

NASCAR Cup Series champion had him on there. How much do you know about NASCAR will? I don't know a whole lot, but I learn a lot. And we've seen Talladega at night. multiple times. So you can tell that was a hard hitting interview. I asked the hard hitting questions. Is Shaken bake real? I'm going to give you a little

a little spoiler. Will asks if the Shaken Bake is a real thing. The handshake. If he's got handshakes with the NASCAR drivers, that's part of the big questions. Hang on, hang on. I meant when I asked the shake and bake, it was more of the slingshot. Yeah, it was more of like the operation within Shaken Bake, not just the handshake.

Yeah. We developed into that, but it started with. Yeah, once somebody said slingshot, I was oh yeah, that's what I meant by the shaking me. Somebody, the other person on the podcast, me. Yeah. Yeah. How was, but you were. Top 10 sports podcast.

Yes. And that's big. Yeah, I mean, thanks to who. Thanks to all you guys, everybody listening, especially on, you know, Spotify, everybody who's doing Spotify, rap. I wish you trying to get love. Thanks to all the boys in the back, man. You guys are the best.

Just pulling up on multiple computers, our show running through all the time. No, but you guys, listening all day, every day. It's awesome. It's crazy that people are surprised. blows me away. I guess you don't always see it, Jack. It's like an expectation you always want to have, like being a top 10, but actually seeing all year long we're a top 10 sports podcast.

Because sometimes I check, like, you know, I'll check like a couple times during the month just to see like where an episode might have landed just to see if I can get a bead on how the rankings kind of work in Spotify. I know we're always top 50 on both Apple and Spotify. Sometimes we've been fortunate enough to be like top five, top 10. But I never know how like the out. algorithm works. So when we saw the 23 Top 10 sports podcast in the U.S. on Spotify,

and we're sitting there at 10, I mean, I was fired up. It fires you up because you just know, 10's the best place for us to be. Right. Because if we're at one, it's over. The boy snuck in there. Yeah, yeah, if you're at one, they're all coming for you. New Heights, like you have the asterisk with Taylor Swift. They are, either way, they're always a top.

They're a top podcast at all times. Even pre-Taylorer Swift, they were massively up there. Murdering it. But now. Now it's like the asterx is it's not even close top number one podcast part of my take they've been number they've been top two shuffling around from one to two like for years Bill Simmons has always been up there I'm not really familiar with the fantasy footballers no disrespect to the boys Pat McAfee show JJ Redick Ryan Rusillo Paul George the ringer I mean that's that's insane company to be in yeah that's just that's just cool yeah shout out everybody for listening man all the Spotify rap by and by the way that I know we're going to get into the good, bad and ugly. The good is the way Spotify,

every year, they just seem to get better at the Spotify raps. And everyone gets excited about going through their Spotify. I know last week in the shop, we're all going around with their Spotify rap. We're getting the old man over here is getting made fun of by whatever my character was at the end of Spotify. What was your character? Cyclops or something like. Basically, I wear, whatever I'm listening to,

I wear it out music-wise. Yeah. I'm pretty much just a one-stop. Like, if I hit the like, like, when Mitch went off in Nebraska with the O-O-O-O-Code is the Cyclops O-O-K by Gunna and I was like okay this is a nice little jam right here

I probably listen to that jam for like a hundred times in the next few days so I'm like one of those guys I wear it out until I just absolutely hate it Yeah that is I feel like that's the only way to listen to music Once you find a song you like Just listen to it until you can't stand

the thought of hearing it again Yeah yeah That's the way it goes so Rue's music made it in there Odessa A higher ground we went to Bonner last year shout out the boys Jack and Garrett for putting me on Odessa.

I said that right, yeah? Yeah. Okay. Nice. Roo absolutely loves that song, but that was kind of the number one. But shout out Spotify for the whole rap thing. I feel like it gets better every year and everybody anticipates it. So maybe that's kicked off the good, bad, the ugly.

Maybe it has. Do you want to rattle off your list? Yeah, I'll do my... Do we want to say our list and then kind of like the ones that we were both on, then we talk more about those, you know what I mean? Yeah. So you can go out you want to go first? Sure.

On the good that I have, Roo watching her first Christmas movie. Huge. That was a shoutout. If we had shoutouts on here, like that's my shout out. It was Mickey saves Christmas. Nice little 20 minute piece.

So it was a show. Yeah. Well, it's, it's apparently, I think it's a movie. A short movie? Yes,

yeah, yeah. Is it having a beginning to end? Yeah. That's a show, brother. A beginning to end is a move. Beginning to end 20 minutes long. That's a show. A show is they leave you a cliffhanger on the end.

Not on kids show. is it a movie Mickey saves Christmas movie okay in your show description was yeah I got it jumped around a little bit in my head and you guys heard not be good stuff um Packers I think Packers are on a little run I got a little something later on about the Packers um the playoff committee I thought the playoff committee got it right uh contrary to everybody being very upset about Florida State I think that Florida State fans and everybody has a we can get into that because I'm sure that'll be a big topic of conversation conversation. 49ers just taking the Eagles out to the woodshed and beating their ass. Dallas Cowboys,

I thought that they had a great win against Seattle. They're always used to be in the front runners, not being used to get hit in the mouth. They got hit in the mouth of the Seahawks. They won a close game finally. Mike Evans, 10 consecutive 1,000-yard seasons. So I feel like that. That's like a knock-on-wood. That's like a knock-on-wood if you're with us type thing. But yeah, that was my good list. Yeah, I like all those. My good. The gunner, number four for I. Iowa. Yeah. Did you see that part return, him hawking him down, slides, and then runs back, pushes one of

his players out of the way that was going too slow to stop a touchdown. I thought that was, that was cool. That's textbook. Textbook. Special teams coordinators. And there's not only their clips to show all the new rookies you come in, but it is also, as I tweeted in their spank bank. Like that is football porn for a special team.

That'll be shown by not only the Iowa Hawkeyes for generations, but it'll be shown in a special team's meeting, probably with every Power 5 team. from here on now. Yeah, and their wives. Like, they're going to go home. Hey, check this out. Yeah, you want to come play at this school? You won't play at South Carolina?

This is what we need to see out of you. Yeah. What were you to say? Will it also be shown on what not to do? Oh. I see it overran the guy was kind of his fault from the beginning. Hey, Mitch, can you bring it? Can you bring it up, Jack?

Yeah, you're right. You have a point there. But if you mess up and to finish a play. Let me finish my good and then we'll get into it. Yeah, you keep around off. Michigan being three-time Big Ten champs. That's just the standard now. Titans losing in overtime.

That's a win-win for the Titans. You show that you can put points on the board and you lose helping your draft stock. That's a win-win. 49ers are the king of the NFL. Dolphins, I think they're legit. I know they haven't really played. They don't play anybody until Christmas,

but I think they're legit. I like dolphins. Yeah, I like the dolphins. And then it was just cool to see Joe Flacco in a Brown's jersey. Yeah, shut out Joe Flacco. That was just cool to me. I love that.

Let's see this thing. What is this? It wouldn't be a, a highlight, Iowa game without a... Okay, now go back? Yeah. How are you coaching that up? So it seems like the way that their gunners operate, yeah, that's tough.

Returned did a great job kind of setting up that outside and getting vertical. But it's like that drill you work on where you're, you know, you're using your, you're using your mate. If you want to miss a tackle in number four situation, you want to miss it on your left shoulder. There are special teams, coordinators, the way they game. plan is shoot across the bow. So four would be going across the bow. And if you missed, you're making him hesitate and step back. Because, I mean, going full board down on a returner and you feel like your one-on-one is that is like, that's just the hardest tackle. The expectation is obviously make the tackle and get them on the ground, but you try to equip and give the tools

that, hey, if you don't, like, don't think your job's gone if you miss the tackle. So it seems like they're trying to keep the cup. So keep your leverage. If you miss, you want to miss on the left shoulder. That returner did an incredible job of fucking putting both those guys in the doing just getting vertical. Kind of slipping number four and then jump cutting out of the way and getting loose. Kids are freshmen. Kids are freshmen. A lot of opportunity there in the future for him. That young stallion. So yeah, that was my good man. I felt a, uh, what a, a slow way of winning the Big Ten championship. I know. And that's kind of weird. You're right. That is that is the good. I kind of just lost sight that you guys did go through back to back to back to back.

like that is, that's a, that's a big, that's a big feat. Yeah. But as far as the Big Ten championship. First head coach to ever do that since the Big Ten championship. So John Harbaugh, throw them in the good. Jim, but yeah. Jim, Jim. Jim. Yeah.

I think John's a great coach too, though. Yeah, John, they're doing some really good things out there in Baltimore. No one's got it better than both of them. Yeah. I'll say that. No, yeah, I think that was cool. I was sick. Dude, I got to stop betting on teams that I like.

I really got to stop doing it. And I's like a conclusion. I'm going to bet on Michigan again when they play Alabama. But like at this moment, literally we're winning 10-0 and I'm thinking all I can think about is my bet and how I have Michigan minus 21 and a half and the over which is 35 and I thought

you know you look at the records the way they lost they beat Penn State or Iowa lost to Penn State and the way Iowa lost to Minnesota and the way Michigan played Penn State and Minnesota it's like oh this is an easy dub and it was technically an easy dub but it didn't cover the total points which I expected Michigan to do I was I was sick I was really you guys saw how much

much I bet on that game. Just so emotional. So emotional. And I'm, I'm not going to do it again, but I'm definitely going to do it again. Like, I know I'm, as soon as we get to the college football playoff, I'm going to tell myself all the things I need to tell myself to make sure that, and I'm going to put in a crazy parlay. That's only pro-Michigan like I did when we were going to Louisiana. Yeah. And it's not going to hit. It's not going to hit. But three-time Big Ten champs, man. That's awesome. Yeah. Are you confident? Now, here's a question. to set all this up because it could be a conversation with everybody. I know this conversation is coming.

Do we want to finish bad and ugly? Because this is going to be a long-winded conversation. Hang on. What I was going to ask is, so I have the good playoff committee. Did you have them in there bad or ugly? No, no, no, no. I didn't put them in there.

I thought they did a really good job, though. I think they, the four best teams, besides Georgia not being in it, I think Georgia should have probably been in it, but where do you put them in? Because Michigan obviously needs to be in Washington. So who do you think Georgia should have been in? What was your four?

I think if you're going to keep a team out, you keep Alabama out going from 8 to 4. Really? Jumping four spots and then moving the number one seed back four spots. But how are you not going to put, if Bama just beats the number one team in the country? That's why we need the 12 team. On a neutral site. Yeah, 12 team one would have been a lot of finish. It would have been perfect.

But how, like, to you, how are you going to, are you just saying based on where they're ranked? You don't put them in there because it's like, Bama is literally showing that they're better and beat the number one team in the country. So why would you have Georgia and one that can go get it all and not Alabama? I don't disagree that Alabama should be in this playoff. I just, it's hard for me to not have Georgia in it because if, let's say this game, let's say it was September, just like Alabama losing to Texas. Yeah.

If Alabama beat Georgia in September and Georgia goes and wins the SEC, Georgia's in it. Right, because they avenge their loss. Right. They avenge their loss. But I'm saying to me it's like, you can't put Alabama. Alabama in without putting Texas in. And Washington has to be in and Michigan has to be in.

So I agree with the four spots. But from a Georgia's perspective, you win two national championships in a row and you lose one game, one at a, you're 29 and one in the last three years. So what would your four would have been? Georgia and Alabama? I think the committee

got it right. I have, it's hard. If I was going to like argue something, it's going to be Georgia. Because I think they're one of the four best teams. anybody else feel like the committee didn't get it right I care we like you're you're in so yeah I know you're excited Jack Mitch JP I just kind of have to feel bad for Florida State

I agree with them not being in it like if Jordan Travis was playing obviously they would they would be in there JP brought up a good point this morning like you almost wish Jordan got hurt in the championship game and they still won because then it would have like a a better reasoning for them to get in but you just kind of Yeah, like, yeah.

Herd Street had a good comment about it. Like if J.J. McCarthy gets hurt in the way that Florida State got hurt, they wouldn't be in it. If Alabama's quarterback got hurt, if any of these teams' quarterbacks got hurt, if Pennix got hurt from Washington, the same situation would probably happen to that team. But I think late in the year, say if it has, say if Pennix gets hurt in the conference championship, then it kind of hurts college football because you could miss out on an opportunity. like when Tua comes in for Jalen Hertz and it's like this magical, oh my gosh,

who's this backup? He's elite. I'm glad it didn't play out that way. That's a great point. But what I was, after the Michigan game and I was trying to figure out my head who's going to go where, like trying to play that game in my head,

I looked up third string quarterbacks that won the national championship and was it Cardell Jones from Ohio State. Third string played three games and won the national championship. And Ohio State, obviously it was loud at it and all that. So I really thought Florida State was going to be in it.

I really did. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough, too. Like, you go undefeated 13 and 0, and you have a team that is embracing the next man-up mentality, like the Cordell Jones of the world, too, too, is, yeah. Again, frustration is definitely, like, justified. Yeah.

I love the head coach's statement he put out. Disgusted was in the first three words. Because, I mean, if you're Florida State, if you're Tallahassee, you've got to be sick right now. Yeah, they are. Because you had a good ball club. You got a good team. You guys played good teams and you beat good teams.

The good thing is they're getting to play in the Orange Bowl against Georgia, which I think that's a great, that's a fucking... Georgia's going to mop the floor with them, though. Because if they were to let Florida state in... If they do it was the right decision to keep them out of the playoffs. I think that they have a more, like, you know, they're going to do the thing to where say they beat Georgia, we're national champions.

They make the rings, we're national champions. Like UCF? Like UCF did. You know that'd be. They should do that. They should absolutely do that. What are going to say, gee? Georgia is, oh.

opened against Florida State is a 14-point favorite. Yeah. That's tough. Yeah. Yeah. And it might go up. But we've seen teams

as high as nine and a half-point favorites lose. Oregon, Washington. Washington showed up big. Washington showed up big. I thought they're going to run away with it in the second half. I thought they were.

Because they were, they were what, over 10 points up, right? Right. I know. It was a good weekend of college football for sure, aside from Michigan, Iowa.

So how do you feel about Michigan getting pulling Alabama as their first game? Because obviously you see the, you see, so starting off my bad is Michigan's reaction to Alabama getting pulled. Yeah, I didn't like that reaction either. But, you know, people want to just like say like, oh, it was because they felt bad for Florida State. They just, I thought they were going to play Florida State. I did too. So my first reaction was like, that's what you wanted, right? Yeah, because here's your team.

This is the most logical thought process. is if you want to have success, you've got to go through hard times, but you want the path of least resistance. Everybody does. Everything we want to accomplish, we all want to do it, but we want the path of least resistance.

That path is obviously Florida State. And they're undefeated. And so you're like, yo, come on, Florida State. Get in this thing. And then when they see it, they're like, fuck. And for me,

the last time Michigan played Alabama was 2012 in the Cowboy Classic. I think they played him again in 2019. Did they play him again? Something like that. They got beat. They got to be pretty good. too.

I didn't know that. So the last time, so my taste of my mouth is like, God damn. The SEC, the Alabama, I'm thinking we'll get them, we'll get them at the end,

a national championship. And we, I've said this to you guys this morning. Like, we knew, we all knew here that Michigan was going to win the Bakedan championship, whether we liked it or not.

We all had, we were like, Michigan's probably, Iowa had a shot. We all knew that Michigan was going to win the Bakedon championship. This is the next step we got to take. This is the best team Michigan's had in forever.

And so, yeah, SEC, Big Bad Wolf, Alabama, the Big Bad Wolf for the longest time, the last 20 years. This is the underdogs. We're the underdogs, dude. We are the underdogs of college football. No, go ahead. What is it? No, no, no. It doesn't pertain to this.

It does not pertain to this. Well, it's the quote for them that I always say, one often meets his destiny on the path he takes to avoid it. They wanted Florida State. They got Alabama. And then we just drop the gym out here. Yeah, that's a fourth time I've heard it this morning. That's all right. Now everybody gets to hear it.

Everybody gets to hear you. Hey, we're trying to get, we're trying to get on the track of, hey, you got to be the big. To me, it's like you're the team that wants to be the bad boy of college football, right? Like, the whole NCAA has been against them. So it's like embracing that, hey, we're the bad boys. We're number one. Like, whoever fucking wants it. It's you against that.

It's Michigan versus everybody. Then when they pull and it's like, oh, shit. Damn. Yeah, I did not like that. It's just a tough start. I texted some boys. I was like, I'm going to need an explanation on that reaction. And then you're trying to, you're navigating it, as you should.

You're trying to take a moment, hey, you know, fear can be an option, I guess, because now you want him to be an underdog story. What is my time to say about fear? Dallas. Fear's like fire. All right? If you use it properly, it can feed you, it can keep you warm in the winter. It can support your lifestyle.

But if you let it get out of hand, it can cause fires. You can cause damage. You can ruin your entire. life. Fear is a healthy thing to have. And if Michigan is having that conversation right now, that is a, we got to have this hot conversation because here's the energy in the room. Yeah.

I agree. And I, like I said earlier, I didn't like Dave's approach to it. Like, Dave was the big bad wolf. Like, hey, whoever wants it. I get it. I get it. And it is, it is inevitably going to be whoever wants it. But when you're behind closed doors, as they should have been in that moment,

and you go, oh, yeah, we got Alabama. We got, we got what we want. it essentially is like we want the SEC we're going to get them you got to take that moment and be like no I mean you got what you want eventually you're going to have to play the SEC anyway if you won the national championship if you want to win the next championship yeah but that was the game like this could have been the first time or SEC's left out left out of the college football yeah yeah I don't think yeah I guess if you know there was a reason not put georgia in it but who do you put in Alabama in it but who do you put in Alabama in it would have been uh Florida state it would

have been Florida state it would have been Michigan Washington Texas and Florida state out of the easiest way to go boys Being the easiest way to go. I'm, listen, there are nerves to this game. To me, it's like, I've been confident in every single game Michigan's played, but what have we seen in the college playout? This is where I sit with you guys and you guys have said to me all year. Yeah, but they get done me.

Now we're here, and this is our opportunity to take the next step. We beat Alabama. We're winning the national championship. Plain and simple, that is going to happen. We are going to beat Alabama. We are. You guys, you don't even believe that. What do you mean?

You don't believe that right now? that's the issue with y'all. I can't talk. I can't talk my way through these emotions. You. You were five and seven. You were five and seven. Hey, have you heard what you all don't even know? Have you heard what Muhammad Salam says? Those who live in illusions die in reality. You hear that Will? You hear that Will? What? What illusion am I living in right now?

Nebraska every year. Every year. This, dude, you are. What happened? I die in reality. So what? 10 toes down. I'm confident in whatever game we would play in. Monday after they lost to Iowa, he goes, you can't tell me they're not going to go 6 and O.

Based on the trajectory of the year and what we have in-house, they were a person that we can bring in. Hey, we just landed a four-star offensive lineman. We're landing cats. Would you say a week ago? It doesn't matter until he signs. Yeah, that's committed. That's true.

That's true. But Nebraska is not even a part of this conference. We're out of it. It's over. It's over. It's right. He's just saying you're talking through a lot of illusions right here, and you're about to die in your alley. I understand, listen, I understand the war I deal with when it comes to college football on this bus. I get it. And I, would I be saying I wasn't nervous about Alabama? Would I be lying?

Yes, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous about Alabama. However, in a month, less than a month's time, Michigan is going to defeat Alabama and shock the entire world. Because everybody who, people put bets in for Alabama when the next one, National Championship this past weekend. Can you put up a direct? Can you put up the overly direct take? Can you put up the overly direct take? He did it in August?

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stop compromising, start watching football, call 1-800 DirecTV for more information. My overly direct take is Alabama wins the national title. And it sucked that I couldn't put $1,000 on them when they were plus $4.80 when the college ball play, I wasn't determined, but I still got them locked in at plus $200. Great. That's my overly direct take.

My overly direct-take, Michigan was the national championship. I'll be betting that today. Bet it right now. I'll bet it right now. Do the same amount you did for- I don't have that much of my account. what do we think about the Texas Washington matchup? I love it.

JP brought up a good stat earlier that they played last year in the in the bowl game. Which bowl game was it? Alamo Bowl. And there was only a one score game. Alamo Bowl. But it was only a one score game. Like I think Washington was one of those teams too that was kind of getting left out of the conversation for Kalata of the college football playoff because they were nine and a half point underdogs against Oregon, which was wild.

but Oregon was on a tear going into that game. So everyone figured and assumed that Oregon would win that game. But Washington, man, like, they showed up in taking care of business. Pennix is awesome, but I do think a lot of people doubt Washington and are not even talking about them to win the national title, even though they have went undefeated 13-0 in arguably the third, second, third best conference in the country. So I do think Washington has a great shot.

I'm fired up for Texas because they, won a statement game against, not like a statement game, but a statement win as far as how badly they beat Oklahoma State. Because I do feel like if it would have been close based on their close games with Iowa State with TCU, then it was kind of like, I mean, yeah, Texas beat Alabama, but also the resume on the back half, they're not like this. Again, this big bad wolf that's going to go into the college football playoff. Their last two games, they score, I guess they scored 49 this past weekend, but their last

two games, they score 50 points. So they've made statements. Right. Because Quinn was heard. as well. Everybody's like, Quinn Ewers is hurt. He's going to come back. And he did bounce back in a big way. And I do think Texas has an unbelievable opportunity to beat Washington, who's undefeated, which is, you know, we're in the college ball playoff now. Like, this is the best four teams. But also, they go in, you know, if it's Michigan, whether it's a revenge game, which I like to see against

Alabama, I think the stakes would be so high. The hype train, the content, the trailers would be so high. Oh, yeah. For Texas, Alabama rematch. The amount of times you'll see that game played over and over over again for that week. And what's awesome, too, is there's representation in four out of the five power five conferences. Right. Again, it sucks if Florida State's not in it, but you get the best from every conference that's in it. And Alabama's on a nice heater right now. A lot of excitement in Tuscaloosa. I'm just glad the committee did the right thing. Yeah, I just, it was so hard. I feel like this is the first time they've actually said, okay, this is the four best, not the four deserving. Right. Which a lot of people are excited about and happy about.

about, but then there's a lot of people who's really pissed off that, hey, does the regular season not matter, which is justified. It just, it sucks. At the end of day, it's like, who would win? If it goes back to Sabin last year, like, if you put them in, who would be favored? Who would Vegas favor? If you have Alabama and Florida State favored right now in a game, who's going to be favored, and it's going to be Alabama by probably double digits.

So if Georgia's got him by 14. Yeah, if Georgia's got him by 14, Alabama, it's going to, it would be by double digits. So for that, it's like, those reasons is why Alabama is in, and it's the best 14 teams versus, you know, the most deserving teams. I'm fired up. Bet's been placed. You got it? What you put in?

1,500. What are the odds? 180. 180. Payout's like 4,200. 4230. Glad you're in it, yeah. Let's go.

Are you all right? No, I'm good. What was that look? Just you in general, bro. I know. Usually you get a little laugh at the end. Like, we went to where we understand it's a joke. but it doesn't feel like there's a joke.

No, no, no, trust me. Everything's fair. Everything's good right now. Yeah. Listen, I've been public about it. I do want you guys to go down. I know you've been public about it. Like when Alabama got drawn, I was like, oh, yeah, nowhere to go now.

Now where to go. Because I was like, man, I can't fucking wait, dude. When we win, oh my God. Because from Florida State, when Florida State was like, when they're up for it, I was like, man, we can't have them. Like, guys, this is all hands on deck. Like, you need Michigan to go through a, you need them to fully earn this national title.

Alabama, you beat Alabama, and then you play Texas. to beat Texas. Then there's no argument. There's no sleep against. If Michigan wins this, there's nothing else for you guys to say. There's no asterisk on anything. The asterisk will be there, but very much will be a handshake. I also have an overly direct take.

And it's that Garrett is a worse winning fan than I am. How so? So to go along with Taylor's direct take, the ugly that I had in my ugly list was Garrett thinking he knew what losing really was. Can I explain a little bit? Yeah, you can explain. You can explain.

Like I told JP this morning, because he said he was going to bring it up. After reading it in your response, I was like seeing it how it came off. But I think I left the most important word out as the kid was like, mom, I'm not used to losing. And so in my head, I'm like,

this kid's going to have a tough life. But I can see how it was taken from you. But then you know how to stand on business regardless. Yeah, but your business is like, you know, that was, you know, that was a ratio that you can't come back from. You see my other tweet? You see my other tweet? Oh, which one?

Probably. Probably. What a racially? Bullie. Bullie. That's a ratio you can't come back from. Will's like approaching 400,000 followers. Will has so many people that ride for him to.

So, so what you're saying. So what you're saying. So what you're saying is when you're like, so here's what the tweet was for Garrett and go follow the boy Garrett. underscore Garrett Hargis. Appreciate that. Yeah, appreciate that. So his tweet just overhearded Georgia students say,

I'm not used to losing. Kid has no idea what real life is like. To which all the boys pretty much responded. JP's like, hey, well, come to South Carolina, Tennessee being down. I thought the biggest story of all time from JP saying you have no idea. Yeah, so. And so.

And then, and so I responded, this tweet is like a rich kid not getting the new iPhone. And you're saying from your stance, you're just saying it as the dialogue between him and his mom. You weren't saying it as an Alabama fan hearing a Georgia fan thinking this guy has no idea or reality. No. But afterwards, I'm like, oh, my God, that sounds so terrible. Let's go back to this ratio real quick. Because you did get 58 likes. And you only got 104, Will.

That's a ratio. But you have literally. a hundred, two hundred times more followers than him. And then you screenshot it and then put it out for the world to see to get it to a bigger audience and then that's where the damage was. He didn't even tag me. We're throwing flowers on the grade. Didn't even tag me.

Will, well screenshot it cropped. Will's the king of that, dude. Before we get on, before we became with the show, I went on my, I went on Twitter and I saw Will screenshoting Dave and I's

conversation and doesn't tag me or Dave. I'm just like this dude. Dave doesn't allow tags. So I didn't want to tag one, not the other type thing. Yeah. Just sub-tweeting. And then when I said random fan,

I didn't want to tip off that I know who the fan was. They had to figure it out themselves. Man, dude, if only your school was as good at football as you were at Twitter. Yeah, we'd be undefeated. You guys would be at least making a bowl game. Man, fun times. Do you want to talk about sport clips? Yeah, let's talk about sport clips.

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It is a game changer. Nice. Do you want to do our bad now since we've got... The only other bad that I have outside of, what I say, Michigan's reaction. Yeah. Was YouTube versus surviving barstool. Yeah. I thought that was...

That should be in the ugly. It is in the ugly and shit to get you beat. Right. But... I'll just go through my bad real quick. Yeah, go ahead. All right. Chargers win versus the Patriots.

The Patriots are so dead. the charges win by six points. That's crazy. Michigan's offense versus Iowa. Chiefs losing the Packers. People saying mom in a conversation as opposed to my mom. I don't like that. So that's a pet peeve. Yeah. It would be considered a pet peeve of mine.

But I'll give you an example. I was in the shop today and somebody didn't drive their new car in. And that person said, mom had to go to the airport. And I was thinking, that's not our mom. it's your mom so say my mom you know what I'm saying I understand if you were saying if Bill's in the town like oh my dad's

coming in town you wouldn't say to me dad's coming in town it's all hard dad you were breastfeeding so you're like 11 type vibes all right well I was gonna ask yeah listen that's a fucking wild what is that movie when they fucking curve the bullets that's one of those shots right there I mean this is not seen a shot at anyone in the shop

This is just people who say mom or they'll be like, yeah, mom's out getting dinner for me. And it's weird to me. I'm with you. It sounds British to me. Sounds like it's- Mom's out getting dinner. I guess the only way that places is if you're like you're at their house and you're wondering where dinner is or something.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean the- You're hanging out with Gary. And Gary's like, that one's a tough example. But I see where you're going. I see where you're going. I see where you're going. I was going to ask if it was a southerner, but we know that it's not.

No, no, no. Because I hear that's done a lot. Like they'll be like, yeah, daddy or mom. Daddy's tough. Like country-ass people say it. Like, did it bother you when Ryan was doing it during the interview? No. No, the reason why I did it is because when he said it,

I literally thought to myself, Dale Earnhardt said the same thing. That must be a NASCAR thing. Like when dad's out there racing, I'm like, yeah, fuck yeah. To me, that sounded cool. And it might be a difference between dad and mom, too. Or just how much you like the other? No, because I like the other person more.

The person that says mom more than Ryan, I don't even know Ryan. These guys are like a professional status. So maybe you're just like accepting it. You're like, oh, that's pretty bad. Yeah, I'm just sucking them off. Yeah. No, I just think the, when you put like a southern, like southern accent, blue collar type shit

when you have that vibe about you, this shit just sounds cooler. Yeah, you can say things that I couldn't say with this voice. It wouldn't sound near as cool as them saying it. And then my last one was Iowa being in a field goal territory twice and getting zero points. Turnovers, fourth down. That type of thing. But that's the bad, but... I had an ugly in there that lined up with yours.

I think it was the, yeah, Patriots. Six to nothing. What a wild score against the Chargers, too. And that's three consecutive games of the Patriots have held teams under 10 points and lost. I think that staff is done. I think the staff goes. Yeah.

You see PFT, his take, doing a trade of Rabel for Belichick? I don't, I think that would be good. I think that would be good for the Patriots. I don't think that would be good for the Patriots. I don't think there's upside, for the Titans. Yeah, I also throw a little wee in there, though, that fired me up.

We, the Patriots, the Titans. You saw that video, Belichick, he gets down. Coming out of that, yeah. I'm just saying based on the resume of, so the gossip out there is that he would be lined up and set to go, like, it's going to be a breakup in the offseason, and him and the staff or him would go out to L.A., the Chargers. Because there's an established quarterback, and that's where Belichick, you know, obviously flourishes more with not developing a quarterback.

but having somebody that's already ready to roll and then fixing culture, fixing defense. And it's a great spot to go to retire. Like you're out in California. Yeah. Or money's not an issue for Billy B. So that's the gossip. I think it goes to adapt or die.

That phrase. And I just feel like Bill, I don't think he's going to be in a place that's going to have the type of patience that the Patriots where he's won six Super Bowls is going to be able to have to allow him to implement his type of philosophies and all this stuff. It's too fast.

I think the games changed too much. I think the players are different. In the 90s, early 2000s, I feel like it was like there was an obvious coach and then player. And if you can see the level of, I don't know if it's respect, but I'll use respect for lack of a better word, of players kind of being more equal to the coach now

to where I don't think it would be received as well from these younger guys coming in. So I think I think when Bill leaves Like that's the end of Bill So you think he'll retire I think he's out to get the winning record Who has it?

Yeah, Don Shula I think he's trying to get that How many games is he out? Yeah, so he'd need to put in a few more seasons And like he'd need to put in a few seasons With a good team I don't think you get that with the Patriots Yeah

Yeah, I don't think you get that with the Patriots I love how the first two are gentlemen and suits and hats. And then the third photo is in sweat. And a hoodie with a towel wrapped around him, like a sauna hoodie or a sauna towel. Yeah, I mean, I could see that for sure. I just, it's not going to be with the Patriots.

And if he goes to the Chargers, like, they'll win more games. Yeah. He'll use a better coach than Staley. Yeah, and then, again, defense culture. I think those are the things that the Chargers are missing. Yeah. The game is interesting you just said. Because I do feel like everybody's vibes were up

and we're there in training camp and everything else. But again, like, when you're losing the way the Chargers lose and you're the most, you've spent the most on defense and the pieces there, and you just can't put it together, you know, people start to figure out when you're losing, it's coaches are trying to blame players, players trying to blame coaches, everybody's basically trying to cover their own ass. CYA. CYA.

28. 28. So, yeah, he would need to put in a few more seasons. Yeah. I think he'll, I mean, I just think it's in his blood to coach football. Yeah. But the other bad I had was, yeah, going back to Barstil versus, YouTube. If people out there right now who are who are into the surviving Barstool, Barstool Survivor,

they dropped last week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, phenomenal episodes, seven figures worth of production put into this thing. And YouTube came up later in the week with like a warning or like an age restriction thing on the first episode, which was very suspect in Barstool's eyes because there really wasn't a whole lot in the first one outside of Rico yelling. And then the second one, they did it again, but that's where it was like, I want to say it was the Kirk Minnehan blow up your house, Jeff D. Lowe, and they, like, really warned about that. And then they'd be on the verge of getting, is it the third strike? A third strike on YouTube, which the way YouTube structure and the way that they are set up

is no one really knows how you gain strikes. Like if it's, there's no like cut black and white way of gaining a strike. They almost subjectively just say, hey, you got a strike. There's no way to fight back against it or throw a challenge flag or like kind of like wait till everything gets reviewed. It's you get a strike. And if there's three strikes on YouTube, your channel is gone and permanently in the gulog forever.

You can't get it back. So clearly as big as Barstool is on YouTube, they had to make a decision. Either edit and censor it the way YouTube wants to censor or put it behind barstle.com. Dave chose to go behind a paywall with barstle.com. Charging people, $999. There's a lot of arguments about that.

Should he be charging? to me, the example and analogy that I would use is it's like, to me, it's like when Andrew Schultz, or Andrew Scholes went out on Netflix, or he was going to go to Netflix with a special. Netflix, the way that they're now adapting with comedians, but at one point in time, they were wanting to censor jokes, which comedians absolutely hate. So comedians would come out of pocket, put a lot of money into their production to produce their own special and sell it on their website. A lot of people get behind that and help out and promote. and, you know, buy into that with the comedian because it's like the small guy versus mainstream

media. To me, it's the same situation. YouTube is wanting to censor this product that Barstool has with surviving Barstall, which honestly, if you watch it, you understand all the context with absolutely everything. It's a great Survivor reality TV show. And so YouTube wants to censor it. Dave's not bending the knee. Hey, we're going to put it behind a paywall to help to help pay for, recoup whatever, the seven

figures that went into all this production behind the scenes and everything. else so you can pay for it 999 barstool.tv and the episodes are four, five, and six come out, you know, they came out yesterday as you're listening now. They came out yesterday, tonight, and tomorrow. And then 7-8-9 will be coming out next Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. You'll see them all come out in succession. And then after that, the week's following, you will get it for free on barstool.com. If you're like me, I'm paying because I hate the FOMO aspect and I hate knowing what happens and people talking about it online. Because it will be, clips will be coming out, it will be talked about. So that's kind of the entire

conversation about it. It's like Dave went hardcore, hey, we're not doing this. We're going this way. But if you're looking at it, it's legit. YouTube wanted to censor. Barstle doesn't want to. They're now going behind their own website to stream it. You have to pay for it. I know that pisses people off. This wasn't a bait and switch by Dave or Barstool. Those were all the facts of it. And so, yeah, if you're a supporter, I think what sucks is there were a lot of people texting me that weren't like in the Barstool fandom or anything else that just loved the reality show and like, hey, I don't know what's going on

with these other characters, but I'm so bought in because of how valuable all the production was. Right. Has there ever been a situation that you guys know of where Dave Baiton switched fans? No.

And so like, yeah, that argument to me seems so wildly out of left field. It's, and you know how the mind's... For the boy's brand, right? Like Barstool has always been for the people. It's like we're the community and we're helping. For the common man by the common man.

Yeah. And so, but the thing that obviously can be a disconnect is the different tax brackets, obviously, and people being upset about $10. Like, I went to Starbucks today and I spent $10 before a tip on two cups of coffee. Literally, and I know that was like the analogy people using that, that literally happened to me today. And so that could be a place where I'm a little disconnected, but, like, is $10 a big deal to be paid? What was your guys just thought on the whole thing with the bars on you?

because I had a couple different thoughts. It's like, I see that if that's how Dave would have started bringing it because the backlash from it is like, okay, then he did it, am I being the scumbag? Because I do think the framework was essentially to get to, hey, big guys wanting to censor us. We're not censoring. We think the war cry is going to come behind us. Right. There's a lot of all pissed off people like you show us three free episodes.

We're bought in. It's bullshit that you're now putting it behind a paywall. So I see like pros and cons of both me. I wanted like I tweeted, I wanted a Kitsbop version. To me, it's like, do the edits, play by YouTube's rules, and make it extremely known that it is a edited down version. And then you got Dave's version, which is like Taylor Swift, Taylor's version. You put Dave's version behind somewhere else if people want to go do that.

And to me, because what you lose out on with YouTube is the massive audience. Like, you get to go home, put on the YouTube app, and it's right there in front of you. And you're like watching it like TV. And the people who were texting me are the kinds where, you know, every time you have to click. do something more, like law of numbers, you lose like 10% of people. Right. The more steps, the worse it gets. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, to me, that's what sucks because I know how much time and effort by everybody got put into this. You want the exposure

to be there for those people from the product that was created because in perpetuity, like the views are just going up because of how good of a show it actually is. So I think it's just harder. If people are looking for it, it's barstool.tv. Support the boys. I truly think it's worth it. But again, I know everybody kind of sees it differently. JP. Yeah, I'll let you go in a second. But the shitty thing for you is you were having such a good showing.

So far, yeah. You were having such a good showing. And you just want as many eyes on that as possible. Yeah. Selfishly, for you and for us. Yeah.

Selfishly, even all the talent and all the contestants, like the things that are going to be coming storyline-wise, I think are all time. And it does. It sucks personally. It sucks team-wise with the surviving cast. It sucks for the production crew behind it.

And put it all together that you kind of just have to, you know, let Dave kind of lead this thing where he wants to lead it. Yeah. But yeah. I like the way you said, though, like, having like the kids' bot version on YouTube, that way more eyes get on it and you're able to monetize that way. And then... It's like, dumb it down towards the door type of vibe.

Yeah. Like, you make fun of the, yeah, the production. It's an unfortunate editing. I'm sure the editing for that would be just absolutely shitty to do that in three days. Yeah, that's the problem is that could you really edit all of those things and put it out on YouTube while it's still relevant. Which is a fair point. There's many employees as they have, he'd give...

If you're not going to get all the way... schedule with wanting to get it out the next Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Because what sucks is you've got to take it down. Like, from my understanding, YouTube said you have two or three hours to take this down or something was going to happen. And your concern is the strike because you don't know how it comes to you. They don't actually say you're going to get a strike. You're not talking with anybody to where YouTube kind of tells you.

It just happens. It's gone. There's no reversing it. So it's a tough spot to be in. I just don't know why, like YouTube would go about it that way. If they don't just want, do they have like, they just heard something and they're like, okay, we're going to censor this now. It's like, there's videos of the war on YouTube.

Right. There's crazy shit on YouTube. And that's like, was on YouTube. Right. And they didn't take them down. Right. But like, Barstow, they're like literally telling Dave like, hey, if you don't do this, we're going to do X, Y, and Z.

It's like, the last thing you want to do to Dave is give an ultimatum, like, just work with them. Because I'm sure if they came in a more gentle way, things would have been worked out so much easier where he probably would have came to this conclusion. A rational conversation. As opposed to having two hours to be like, no, fuck you. we're not doing that. And then this whole thing has to happen.

So, but, uh, $10. How do we feel about that? Your perspective when it was all going down because we weren't in the office. Yeah, I mean, I would pay that. It's amazing content. Even if I wasn't, like, friendly with you guys and I didn't know you guys, I would still buy it because of how, like, I guess I have, like, a stoolie kind of just brought into it that way.

But I also think on YouTube's end, it's just, it's so soft for them to just be like, now you can't, can't put this out there because, That first episode had, what, 800,000 views and... Yeah, I mean, it was gonna grow. Yeah, I was gonna be nuts, man. So the amount of, like, Dave's got to look at it in a business sense. Like, he's got to make the money back from the revenue that he's missing out on YouTube. And, like, $10 for six more episodes is like, what?

Like, $2 an episode. It's not even that, it's not that expensive, in my opinion. Like, you can... And then also, like, when that gets removed from YouTube, there's also kind of like a make-right or a renegotiation with Factor who spends all the money because you're paying for, seven-figure views per episode. You know it's going to be there.

This one, it's more of like a wait and see how many people show up because, again, I hate it for the people who were coming in that weren't familiar because they might not even be listening to this and fully understand that it's not, why it's not there anymore. But you make people, the more hoops you make them jump through, the more of the audience you lose.

Right. So it's kind of like a renegotiation. Yeah, it's kind of like a renegotiation and everything that probably conversations that have to take place with factor to either make right or figure out what the numbers say after. I'm not, I'm not sure. Yeah. Like Jack came in after the first one was like, dude, it was 90 minutes long. I didn't even know it was that long. Like it just kind of flew by because of how, you know, how much they pulled you into the story. Yeah. They did such a great job with that, dude. And obviously we talked about the $10. I don't think no one is going to struggle purchasing something for $10. It's a principal by those. So for the people who are upset about it, I think that at the end, they don't want to spend $10 because at some point it was free. And some people just have.

impossible time getting over that fact. And it sucks because even like our roommate or my roommate, Kyle, he's not like a huge bar stool guy, but he knows some of the stuff, the ins and outs. And he watched that first episode and he was fired up about it. And then the next day, all this comes out.

And so he makes plenty of money and he can afford $10, but he's not going to buy it out of principle because he's like, right? Because the downside's like, I mean, that was a sweet episode, but I'm not going to, Like, yeah, if it's not available to me right now, right away to where I can easily find it, it's just not... I think it's literally, it's not even the $10, it's having to go in and, like, put a card in. Like, even though that sounds so foolish and childish, but it is just a principal buy.

So hopefully they get a bunch of people that are going to purchase that. And they said two weeks after the initial finale, they're going to release all the episodes for free. Yeah, so you're going to get, like, factor the people that are in the most risk right now. They're going to get their views. or another. Well, it's fine in Barstool TV, it's people got to go to barstool. Dot TV to do it. Which to me, that's the exposure part of YouTube you miss out on.

Maybe in two weeks, too, like, this is a time where you think about having some edit that out there that can go on YouTube. Because, again, like, those, that's for like an audience that is not nearly as, you know, bought into all of the, all the things that happened in the Barstall universe with every personality that's there. That's to me, that's where the stoolies kind of eat that stuff up because you see a lot of, like, rivalries collide throughout the entire show. And you got, I mean, Dave has the reach.

They have so many people. It's like on Barstool, not only Dave, but also the employees of Dave to do the work. To like, all right, you guys got to go watch a show. Like put it on Twitter, put it on Instagram so that people are driven to Barstow. com. It's on all of us, team. Because it's like, do you think about the rumble conversation? Do you think about the X conversation?

If it say it was like a thing with Twitter and Elon, then the experience of watching it's not the same because you're just going to be consuming it on. your phone or an iPad or something like that. What's the deal with Rumble? Are they the same thing as YouTube? Yeah, basically that would have been the, yeah, Rumble's tried being a competitor of YouTube essentially. I mean. But you'd almost assume Rumble would want Barsel

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The battle for the Houston Oilers, the jersey, the helmet will be coming. soon again, buy tickets there. Game time. Game time. That would be awesome. If the Texans and the Titans played every year for, like the first game was to decide who who gets to wear them the next game. Yeah. I think that would be so fun. That would be sick. In a couple of years. In a couple of years. We got to get back on track. Yeah. We got a GPOT with the guys do. That is a tough loss. Tough overtime loss. Yeah. Did you have any ugly? Because we're still on it. 50 minutes in this episode, we're almost doing good, bad ugly. No, so my ugly was, uh, was I said it in line with, uh, the, you're bad, which is the Patriots losing,

six to nothing, three straight under 10 points. And then Garrett thinking he knows what losing feels like. And we got to cover, we got to cover that. So I'm, I'm solid by Garrett. I'm solid. What's your ugly? Uh, my ugly is the chains guy getting his leg broken in that Saints game. Oh.

That was insane. Easy, man. Ugly. Um, pull it up. Yeah, pull it up. Uh, ugly. This is more just as I feel bad. Georgia being out of the playoffs in Florida State.

13 and O and they're out. Here's one for the world. NATO says prepare for bad news when it comes to war. That's not good. That's probably in the ugly category. Oh, what's the deal? Yeah, I looked at it a little bit. They were referring to the war in Ukraine

and how that needs to get figured out before because if Ukraine starts to fall, then we're looking at WW3. Really? Yeah. I saw a warship was a U.S. warship. Not even a worship, it was like commercial, but um

look at that dude look at this guy's leg oh my god and you can kind of hear it there's a couple of different clips where you can hear the guy screaming in agony but that's as ugly as it gets

that sucks man the thing's just bented to the side dude oh you paid enough for that no and he was just going like he's hype probably telling us family

like do we know if they get covered huh as Dean Blandino if what do we know if that gets covered for him like you'd almost want the NFL to come out and say,

we're going to take care of this. I mean, I haven't come harsh before, right? But yeah, what were you going to say with the? It was like, we had a ship that, I forget which country, but a country fired some missiles at it. Obviously, we intercepted the missiles. But that happened, like,

I want to say it was maybe, like, I don't want to actually say what country it was because I might just butcher it altogether. Yeah. But that happened either this morning or yesterday. And that was apparently a big deal. Have you seen all these

conspiracy theories? Like my algorithm on Instagram is like asking Alexa when World War III is going to start. The last one was November 25th. And legit November 25th, I was like,

opposite to the day to day. And it did start. But the next one is March 14th when China invades the United States. Probably invading Taiwan. What's that? They'll probably invade Taiwan, which would make us have to

get in war with China. Are we apart of NATO? Because I know 45 was trying to dip. Did he ever dip? No, I don't think. think I ever dipped. Let's get political, boys. Let's get in the war room.

Yeah. I'll put my wrist background and throw it in there. And this is my last ugly. This is a personal one is my kids turning my new cold tub into a potion. I was watching the games yesterday, sitting on my couch. And my kid's like, Daddy, come look what we made. And I was like, all right. So I walked outside.

And I see my cold tub, my outdoor cold tub lid was open. And I see dirt everywhere. And I'm like, oh, would y'all make like we made a potion and I look in it dude I have a picture of it I'll send it for people who watch you on YouTube but I was tight leaves the raw how'd you handle how'd you handle it I just took a deep breath when you saw you reach over you look at it I looked at it I looked at it I looked in the thing I go guys this stuff is important daddy we can't do this because you could break it and I had

to explain why it would break it and I was like and I literally walked around the corner and put my hands on my knees. Yesterday it was low-key, a defeating day for me, dude. It was a tough one for me, and I was just, like, looking at the ground, like, God damn it, dude. And I walked back, I was like, all right, guys, let's start cleaning it up.

And then they started complaining about how cold the water was. And I was like the grandpa from holes, it's too damn bad, like just letting them do their thing. You should have made them drink the potion. No, my daughter's been making it. You know that, like, a soda brand called Ollie Pop, have you heard of them? My kids are obsessed with that.

My daughter makes olive pop soup, which she basically just puts a can into a bowl and then adds different ingredients, whether it be fruit or different things. And she just like eats it like soup. So they're all in the potions and all that right now. And, uh, yeah. You know, it's on me. It's on me as a father. It got fixed. Everything is clean.

Nothing got in the filter. The thing was off. Actually, it was like the best case in a worst case scenario. So we got it taken care of. But that is the shit that gets you beat. Yeah. Yeah. It's shit to get in line with the definition.

The rest of the day. I had a hard time putting them in the best. bed last night. I had a hard time with them. My daughter, my oldest, is having a hard time going to sleep. I did five things. Like, let's read a story and you just make it up about how these girls, they want to make a potion, but it's in the wrong. Wain one of daddy's things. And they had to leave forever. And that was unfortunate. This daddy hurt them. Those kids later fell down the stairs. Yeah. It's just a bit of a deal, man. You see how good of a dad I am. I don't do those things to you, but just keep in mind how it could be. It's like those videos where you see like the dogs

like one, like they think like a toy dog in front of a dog and they go eat the food and they beat the shit out of the dog and I was like, you know what? All right, I'm not going to do that. That is fucking hilarious. Because the dogs are legit like, oh my God. Yeah. All right. We kick it off, Ryan Blaney. No, we got to do a twisted question.

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This is, this twisted question comes from JP. If the aliens were to invade Earth, which U.S. or which person in the world would you want to send to greet the rock? Yeah, why the rock? Just a good representation of man. Like, hopefully the aliens are a little scrawny or hopefully they just have their gadgets and they see the rock. They're like, yo, God damn. Who you sent in, JP?

Elon Musk. Yeah, Elon's definitely on the list. Yeah, you got to throw Elon in there. I feel like if anybody's close to speaking the language, he probably knows something. He's got some of that tizum. I would put Chris Hemsworth up there over the rock. Really? Why?

Everybody's cooler with accent. True. Dude, let Donald Trump go, dude. Let 45 go. give a firm handshy. Bring them in. You guys are doing a lot of great things up there. Bring them into your world and just let Trump negotiate.

Yeah, yeah. Hope we live to fight another day. Who'd you say, Garrett? Dennis Rodman. That'd be a great one. That's kind of like an alien. Yeah. Just be like, hey, we're not so different, you and I.

Yeah, everything. Okay. I like that. Jack, who do you got? It seems like a wild card. Not someone that we can. risk losing, but also it shows what not only American

culture is like, but the U.S., so I'm sitting Joey Chestnut. But you can lose Joey? I don't want to, but I feel like he's had such a good run for the last decade that like he might be in the back half of his career. We're getting him a statue if he, you know. Here's a wild card.

Dylan Mulvaney. Right? Just confuse him a little bit. And then then like half of the red states in America are canceling aliens. So I don't know if we can do that. Aliens are like, oh, we gotta get the fuck out of here.

Let's go to some other country. This is crazy. We can't get canceled. Then they go to China and then March 14th comes way sooner than we thought. Yeah, then they start helping them. You're right. We can't send Dylan.

That's a fun, that's a fun question. Who would you send? Drop in the comments who you'd send to meet the alien president. Do you have your? I'm saying 45. Yeah. Not that I, not that I, we can.

Not that I. Not that I want him to die at all, but also it's like, you know, you lose a soldier, you're throwing somebody out there that can... That's war. Yeah, that's war. So you're going to send 45? I think so. With the option of losing him?

You don't want to lose your best soldier. It's a statute too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What cost, Will? They take Trump? Content. Listen, if we're going down, they're deciding then and there if we're going down.

Imagine Donald Trump is abducted by aliens And then he's you know he would find a way To get a message back to America Yeah Look what I've done here Yeah That's a good one It just sends back a message

Law and order He's trying to like write it in the stars Yeah Trump would Your days are numbered earth Yeah Before we get into the Ryan Blaney episode Mitch You were on a

Two Dimes in a token shout out the boys. I feel like they're like a brand of Bust with the Boys. Modern League system. It's like our AAA. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're in the farm system. They're in our farm system.

Yes, I was. How was it? Did you enjoy it? For everybody wanting to know what the episode's like, it was a lot like that exchange. I listened to the whole thing. I thought you did a good job. You got to see behind the curtain of Mitch Carson

in his process of coming to Bustin with the boys. Got to take a peek behind the curtain. I had no idea you were a fan of the boys like that. Yeah, I was, I mean, I was miserable in NASCAR. Or NASCAR just catches strays. Yeah, I fan. Yeah. But NASCAR people are cool.

My job was not cool. I'll preface it that way. But, yeah, it was, I was a fan of you guys, like, just watching pods and stuff. And then Will's tweet ended up sparking this. And then that text I got from Will was. one of the most wild text I've ever received. Well, he was explaining his interview process. And he said he was on Zoom and JP was like,

your camera was off, but it said JP Hovey and it was you. And he's like, yo, it's so crazy. I'm talking to Will Compton right now. Will, when we,

we send him your LinkedIn profile photo. Yeah, that, and when I received that text, I'm like, this is fake. No way, yeah.

The next one might have to be in the corner of the room. And, uh, but yeah, and then it was, It was cool to be in front of the camera rather than behind. But, I mean, he's super cool. Jack's been on before.

I think y'all two were going on soon. So, uh... Ooh. Shout out, Brooke. Yeah, shut out, Brooke. Nasty. Brooke's the main guy. Is there anything you wanted to address with the bringing it up? No, I thought you, uh, you did your top three most athletic and I, I thought you had

the right three people in there. Who was it? Us three. No, you have to go and watch it. You have to go and watch it. Oh, yeah. Damn, I bet. He put you at two, though.

He put me at three. I mean, if you want me to say it was me, Will and then Taylor, and then Jack was honorable mention. Pussy ass. I think right now as we stand today, that's probably, I think that's probably a correct order. Five years ago, no. I mean, yeah, it's different.

I mean, your knees are a bit banged up. I got shaky knees now, dude. There's nothing wrong with that. I got shaky knee syndrome. Will's got the back. Things hurt, yeah. The youngest one here, so I mean. Yeah.

We've seen you kick a soccer ball. This came to our gym too this fast. ain't the most athletic, Mitch? Booth Camp. Yeah, Mitch came to Booth Camp. Didn't run as much as I thought he would, but he was there. I ran just as much as you did.

I know, you didn't, Mitch. It's hilarious. That laugh. I know, the crippling. That laugh is so disrespectful. No, but you know what? After booth camp, you know, it was a little stinky, a little hot, sweaty.

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No. According to Jim Wyatt. That's, I mean, that's... Was it? I didn't get to catch it. That's when I was flying back. We lost Stonehouse completely. Hannah Hill had...

laces out on a kick that we would have won the game essentially because we went to OT and so Stonehouse is the normal older, yeah, the holder for the kicks and so he took a really like he might be done for the season. Yeah, that was a bad hit. Did you see it? His knee looked like the guy from the Saints. Yeah. It wasn't good. But it like kind of went out and came back in. Yeah, they went to block a punt and his plant foot was on the ground and like you could see the hyper extension and then come back. It was tough. Jeffrey Simmons got hurt. Derek Henry got knocked out. Concussion protocol.

It was a scary day. One of those days. Oh, man, that sucks. That's Auk, yeah? Yeah, it's Ack, though. Ock's such a good dude, too. I know. Damn.

His son was just in the state championship last weekend. He wanted me to send a little video. Yeah? Yeah. Did you? Yeah, I sent a little video. I said something like, what did I say? I said I had, you know, my three keys or my three things.

It was like, get the fight started, talk shit and not too much, don't get in trouble. And when you beat their ass, I forget what the team's name was. but you walk over, you take your letterments, and you put it on their women. Nice. I kind of preface, I was like, hopefully I'm just talking to the locker room, no parents involved. Yeah, get out. Yeah, get out. Wait five, six seconds.

Yeah. Just us? Yeah. Ockerman, man. That's tough, dude. Great dude. Yeah, that sucks, man. You know, you are getting to the point.

It was like we were talking about like, Vrab is the guy for the job, but you keep losing and you end this way. Like, it's like all the assistants, all the coordinators head on a swivel because you got to change something up. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, man, what a way to go out. What a way to introduce this podcast, Ryan Blaney.

He was awesome. My favorite moment was when he was talking about getting drunk at Dale Jr.'s talent. So that's a great. That's a great story. He was a great story. He was a good dude. I had a lot of fun with him. He was a voice on Cars 2.

Cars 3. Cars 3. There's three of them? Yeah, he's in Cars 3. I got to get caught up. Magnum PI. He's done a lot of cameos. Same Magnum PI as Eddie George was in also.

Wild. I watched a couple clips. Fun fact. He's got some ability. Yeah. And he knew how to chop it up with the boys. Yeah. And that's always a weird thing for us is when we're meeting somebody we don't know a whole lot about.

How are they going to act? Is it more going to be me and Will having fun than trying to figure out questions? It was a great conversation the whole way through, man. It was a really good time. We got to have them on again. Subscribe, drop comments, do all the things. Big hugs. Tiny kisses.

Big golf guy? Yeah, I love. I got a play out there earlier this year, actually. Really? I hear it's awesome. Yeah. It's nuts. I heard that Trubedore is like a place that's like country clubs

for people that don't like country clubs. Yeah, it's like all those discovery properties are that way. Right. Like there's one here and Vegas. I mean, they're all over the world. But yeah, like you said, country club for people who hate country clubs.

The whole new way to do it. Is it like you get to not like dress down, but you don't have to be. You can dress however you want. Just how you want. Like Ernest goes out there and he'll be flip-bob. Is that where Vrabble goes? No, he's at Richland.

That's a country club. Yeah. That's a colored shirt tucked in. Yeah. You know, Braves is a big, he's a big boss, though. Yeah, he's a big swinging date type of guy. Yeah. Like, I got to make sure people know that I have money.

Look at my $25,000 entry feet at this place. Are you part of a country club? I am. There you go. What a great way to start your show. I know. I know. Just an asshole.

You're being a part of a country club. Yeah. Yeah. What got you in the country club life? I know we're here for NASCAR. And also, by the way, I saw your clips on Magnum PI. Congratulations. That's badass.

I appreciate that. That was fun. What got me into country clubs? Well, I really am not into the country club scene. I'm more into just, I like golfing. Yeah. So, like, you just need it to be, like, I just can't play public courses anymore. I mean, everyone golf's now. It's just not for you.

It's like, you're going to take five hours to play golf. I just can't do that. How often you golf throughout the year? I don't know. Race season gets tricky. I try to go at least once a week, maybe. If I usually, I usually get, like, one day to myself during the week, and I'll try to get around in. Yeah.

But I don't like the country. I don't like ever go. in. I just go, yeah. Yeah, you go up, yeah. Get the cart, rip around a little bit. What is, like, golf has a lot of drinking. Do you get some drinking in while you're in race season? While I'm racing while you're not in race season. In the one day you have off. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You get some drinking in the game day. All right. Oh, like, if I had to go eight months during the season without drinking, I don't know what I do. Boys get after. Does your team get after? Like, are you guys, is the camaraderie high. My boys are, my 12 guys are absolutely just to burn it down.

They just got out here today And I think they're still out on this They're on Broadway right now Just we're letting it rip Getting after it. They're gonna be on the parade float And they're gonna, I don't even know what state they're gonna be in

Yeah, the pit crew guys are like the offensive line Yeah They just kind of seem like they get after it Yeah They're just rowdy cats My gas man He played for the Panthers for a little bit He was a tight end

Really? Chris Conklin, yeah So we have a few X NFL guys We have some baseball guys All the pit crew over the wall guys They're all ex-athletes pretty much Yeah

Yeah. I wonder if Paul's here. Do you know Paul Swan? Swan? Yeah. I don't know if he's here or not. Yeah, I wonder if he's here. He's somebody with this, like the first kind of person we've kind of met in the NASCAR community that it's really embraces nothing but big dick energy. Like just he's got his vibes. He wants to hit pushups. Incredibly beautiful green eyes. Yeah. I mean, it's just like got to get a lot. I know. Oh, God. Yeah. Yeah. He's always got a little bit of grease on them. But it's kind of like, I can get place for you a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah. He's just a wild man.

When we met him, it was like, okay, this is the guy. He went to NASCAR two years ago, right? Are you talking about we did? No, this is just to you because one year I didn't make him. So two years ago, he goes, he's like, Paul Swanson, Paul Swanson, you got to know this guy, Paul Swanson, big dick energy. Just keeps talking them up. And usually when you talk to your buddies and you're like, hey, this is, you put it up here, when he really experienced it's not as high as you think. I met him and it almost exceeded the expectation.

Does he have like a legacy in the NASCAR world of being the guy, the big dick energy guy? You know him that way? Do you know him? I don't know. I know Paul fairly decent. But yeah, he's like that label guy, BDE guy. Yeah, we have BDE. There we go.

You'll walk down pit road before the race and like they're setting up pistols and he'll have his fire suit unzip. Oh, the way down, bro. That's awesome. I'm like, I love it. We were curious. We're like, man, we wonder if Paul Swan if his legacy goes outside of just, we'll see if his brand, if he's known around the NASCAR community.

Yeah, literally. thought to ourselves, maybe we can get to that part of the conversation, but why not start in the first 60 seconds with on the podcast? Say, what about, tell us about Paul. Yeah. Immediately. Hey,

this is, this is a shout out for him. This is building his. He's going to love it. He's going to be all about it. He's going to be blessing guy too. Yeah, he's about,

he's about busting. With, when you're in the situation you were going into the cup and like the four-way tie type thing, all that. Like, how do a rivalry is playing into that? Like, who is your big rival while you're like throughout your career? Or through my career?

Your career. We'll start there and we'll, will incrementally go down. I don't really know. I feel like, like I don't, I've been lucky. I haven't had anyone like I really despise.

Like you'll have kind of run-ins with some guys every now and then. Some guys kind of, they will hate each other for years and years. I haven't really been that way. I'd say more my rivalry is like my buddies who I grew up racing with. Like we're all good friends. You know, Chase Elliott and I, Bubba,

Wallace and I, we grew up together, you know, we started racing together when we were like nine, 10 years old. So I feel like they're kind of like your rival. Is the family situation the same? You obviously come from a pedigree of racers.

is it. You know, Bill Elliott drove, Chase's dad. Bubba doesn't come from a racing family. Like, his parents never raced. He just started when he was young. And he and I actually first started, yeah, when we were like 10 years old together. I remember us growing up together. But I feel like, like, that's my rivalry as my buddies. You're just trying to like, yeah, you're just trying to like beat them, maybe not be too loud about it. But until you win and you're like, yeah, yeah, a little bit. But it's not too bad. We all support each other. But you want to beat those guys more than anyone else, I think. Your buddies. Yeah. Do you have, are there guys that are. just knowing like all this dude's an asshole.

I think we're all, we can all be that way. Yeah. And someone's mine. What's been your asshole moment? You have an asshole moment. You see the clips of dudes swinging with helmets on, which they need to have a talk. If you see, it's a little off. Like, as a fan, you know, listen, I'm a dumb NASCAR fan.

But when you see a couple bumps in the road, you're like, oh, yeah, you kind of want some demolition derby type of thing. You want the Missouri. Yeah, yeah, the Missouri. Yeah. And you guys, obviously, like, there's like some lines that get crossed. There are, there are some lines that get crossed. but it just kind of depends of how, like, far you cross that line.

What's, hey, here we go. We do, uh, pet peeves. We do like shout out, no free shout out pet peeve of the week. Yeah. What's a pet peeve in the NASCAR realm to where you're just like, it's just, it's kind of an unspoken law that goes down when crossed. You know it's kind of legal, but also it's like, we all know that that's bullshit. Oh, man.

That's a good question. That is a good question. Like unwritten rule kind of stuff? Yeah. Like in hockey, there's like things you should and shouldn't do, but it's not in the rule book. Not in the rule book. You might go up and say something to somebody or get in their face knowing like he's going to, you know, it's not going to make any sense to everybody else. But he knows what I'm speaking to.

I think the more of it, it's like the athletes that are involved, right? Like in the NFL, you guys had stuff, right? Like, all right, you don't do this. You can do this. This is not cool. And on the track, I feel like between drivers, yeah, it's like cheap shots, right? Like running into somebody, thorn them on purpose, like for no reason. I'm sure it's the same way as like getting a, you know, a leg block or something from the behind.

Tripping like, yeah, tripping, like, you know. Going low. Going low, right? And hurting somebody, taking a chance to hurt somebody. I think it's kind of the same way in our world. Like, athletes, the drivers, you know what's fucked up and what's not, right? And I think it's the same with every sport. But yeah, I think on the track, like if someone runs anything to you for no reason, you're like, well, what the fuck?

Yeah. Have you done it before? Oh, yeah. I mean, you'll do it. I mean, that's everyone, everyone does it. I mean, yeah. But it's just the matter of how many times. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, everyone does it. Everyone has those things. They're like, yeah, it's kind of messed up. I do it, but I do it anyway. Is there a specific situation in your career? Like, I'm intentionally going to do something here because it's been pissing me off. And afterwards, you're like, I shouldn't die, but emotions were high. And I would say, I've said things.

I wish I didn't say. I don't think I've, not that I can think of right now, like done an action that I'm like, I shouldn't have done that. I feel like it's more things you say. Like, maybe you shouldn't have said that. What's something you said? Oh, just like, fuck that guy. like that guy's a dick or something, you know, like, but as far as, like, actions, like, I don't

think I've ever done anything. I regret that. Yeah. But words, I feel like you can regret pretty easy. Because when in NASCAR, you can go, I went to the PIR as a kid with my grandparents. They were big into NASCAR and they, you get like the walkie-talkies or like the little monitors with the headphones. Yeah.

Where you can listen to the pit crews. Are there like two different, like, wavelengths or whatever they are of different channels? No, you would have been. If you've been able to listen to you as a girl, could go fuck that guy? Drivers, yeah. Yeah, you've been here. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah.

So if you've ran a radio as a fan, yeah, you'll be able to hear anyone you want to hear and hear all the good stuff. The unfiltered. That's what you want. That's what you want. It's like hot mics, right? Like when NBA and NFL do the hot mic stuff,

like I listen to that and I feel like it's the same way with radios with us. When you were, you said like you started racing at 9, 10 years old, obviously you can't get a driver's license to you're 16, but you come from a pedigree. Like when you were born growing up, where you're just like,

I'm going to be a racer? That's what I'm going to do? Was that like the number one goal your whole life? I mean, I grew up around it, you know, dad racing before I was born. So I just grew up around that stuff. And I wanted to do it. But like my dad never pushed me to do anything. Dad was always, do you want to do it.

And I remember like every step we took like in a different cars or series. Like, you sure you want to do this. Like, because it's a big commitment, right? If you're going to half ass do something while you're doing it. So dad was always good at that. So yeah, I was lucky. This is always what I wanted to do because I just wanted to do what my dad did. And I was really lucky to be able to do it.

but I never really, I played other sports, but I was, I faced facts like, hey, I was like five, six till I got to high school or until I graduated high school. I'm like, and I play basketball in that time, baseball was like, all right, I have to list my career opportunities. I'm going to be like five, nine. I can't jump very high. You know, racing's probably going to be my career. You're not the right skin color for other sports. Right. You know, hockey, football, basketball, I'm not physically adequate enough to do that.

So I'm like, I'm going to go do the racing side. And I'm pretty good at the racing stuff. And I wasn't very good at the other stuff either. So, yeah. How sick is it that you did want to do this your whole life? And now you're, you were the 2023 NASCAR Cup Series champion. Well, it's, you know, it's neat.

I growing up around it. And I admired those guys who, you know, were champions because I was at the track with my dad. And I got to be around those guys. You know, the Jimmy Johnson's and Jeff Gordon's and all those guys. And just wanted to be that, that person. So it's, yeah, it's kind of hard to believe, you know, if you have a job.

dream as a kid and you finally accomplish it. You're like, damn, it's kind of all come full circle. And then you think back on all the people that helped you out along the way. And it's, yeah, it's definitely a neat feeling. Yeah, that's, yeah, I love that stuff. When you're a kid, obviously, you look up to your dad, but was there a driver that you're like, almost would make your dad feel like, man, he thinks that guy's cool with me. Yeah, I mean, I loved, you know, Jimmy Johnson, Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Matt Kenseth.

You know, those guys were kind of like the guys I loved besides my dad. You know, I loved watching those guys race. You realize what kind of bus you're sitting on, right? It's the, what bus is it? Number eight, Dale Earnhardt. Is it? Yeah. It's the junior bus.

Yeah. I see your, you got a Gordon sticker. You got Kansas sticker. This bus actually used to go to tailgates. Really? We found it in the back of a Wedgwood Houston parking lot. I didn't know that. Broken down and everything, but he used to travel to all the NASCAR events.

That's badass. A lot of history in here. Yeah. So not a Dale and hard junior fan. No, I love Dale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was with Dale. Say something nice about Dale.

I lived on, I lived on Dale's property for like three years. Is it the farm? Is it the old? the old, like western town? Yeah, yeah. We hear stories. I live right across the woods from there. He said he was going to invite us to that, like what, last year?

The town. Every year he invites us, but, you know. Yeah, the town. The Whiskey River town. Yeah, yeah. You live there for three years? I lived there, yeah. So, funnest times in my life.

I was like a rookie in the Cup series. I'm 21 years old. Living by myself in my house, I'm renting for the first time. And like, Dale's a thousand yards through the woods. And Dale was still racing at the time. So we would get done with these. races on Sunday night, get home at 10, 10.30, and I would go drive a four-wheeler through the woods to Dale's house and get absolutely wrecked for like six hours and then one-eye, a four-wheeler

through the woods back to my place. That was like the funest years of my life. So Dale is, yeah, Dale's so much fun. And yeah, yeah, it's cool. This is that eight bus. It's big. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were rattling off names. I was like, oh, he had said Dale yet. I wonder if it's no, I, sorry, Dale. I was a big fan of you. You're awesome to me. That is awesome. Taking a four-wheeler. Just whipping through. Yeah, like, I'm going to go over to Dale. You know, I'm going to get out of here. I'm going through the woods. No worries.

I mean, I'm just in the woods. I'm driving through the trails. It's all good. Did you ever get lost? I think the first time I did it, I got lost. No way. Everything looks the same. It's the woods and it's dark and I'm seeing eight of everything.

So it was, pulling the number too. It was rough. He's in the whiskey town. It seems like it exceeds the hype it already gets. Yeah, it's, it's slowed down a little bit. You know, they also got a couple kids now. So it's, it's slowing down.

But there was some wild stuff that happened in the, in the town that was that I can't say. You know, you're fine. I can't say. Oh, that is awesome. You brought up a guy's name,

and I'm not super well versus NASCAR, but Tony Stewart. Yeah. He was considered a shit-stir kind of guy, right? Was that who Dale would get after it with? Were he almost swung on somebody? I just remember going to the, literally going to the PR with my grandparents and being like,

Tony Stewart, that guy's a piece of shit. And I'd be like, yeah, grandpa. Yeah, absolutely. And I just, that always stuck with me. Yeah.

He brought that up NASCAR. Yeah. Tony was. I mean, he had, he was a fiery personality. He was always great to me and my family. Like, I was a little tiny kid. I remember him being great to me. And he was awesome to race with.

But yeah, he had that fire in him. And I think, like, in the early 2000s, it was like the height of, like, him getting into a bunch of disagreements. But Tony's a good guy. He's a hell of a person. When you were growing up, did you always want to drive for Ford? I didn't really care who I drove for. Honestly, growing up, like, you know, you're just trying to make it.

You're just trying to have a job. And, you know, we got, I've been with Ford for the last 10 years now, 2013, we started working with them and they've been fantastic. So I really haven't worked with anybody at the professional level, like a Toyota or Chevy. You know, I know, unfortunately, I see the sign back here. But no, Ford's been, you know, they've been great family to me. But yeah, as a kid, I didn't really care. But now, obviously, you do.

But I just wanted to have a job as a kid. I didn't care who I drove for. How do you, how do you make it? I apologize for being an idiot on all the racing NASCAR. But I also enjoy it because I feel like a newborn learning a lot of new stuff. How do you make it professionally in NASCAR? Like what's the, obviously with football, you get drafted. You go play high school and you go to college and hopefully get drafted.

Yeah. Pretty linear. Yeah, I feel like the steps are a little bit different. There's a lot of similarities was like we have Little League, right? Like there's local tiny, like I started when I was nine. So like Go carts, all those stuff. You know, that's just like a little league kid getting going, right, in T-ball or something. And so there's different steps you take as you get older.

I'd say like our, you know, AAA, double A is like trucks for Xfinity series. And then you hope you get noticed and you make it up to the big leagues, you know, of the Cup series. And so I think it's some of it's similar. You're not going to school for this stuff. Like there's no scholarships for it. But yeah, it's just having good people around you. Good sponsors, obviously are huge on it. But yeah, there's feeder series that you have to do well in to get noticed by

an owner and give you a job. And I wonder what it's like, too, like if somebody's got like an instinct or an eye for driving, but they're just not in a faster vehicle. Like in the Xfinity of like you're trying to get noticed, but you're not winning even those events, but how somebody that has it might not get identified just because they might not have the right. The right environment or people. That happens all the time.

Yeah, I mean, there's people that I think are great race car drivers, but they haven't gotten the shot that they, I think they deserve. And that's at any level, whether it's the NASCAR level, you're in a lower tier car or the local short track level. I know guys, I grew up racing with that are twice my age that were unbelievable race car drivers, but they just never got a shot. Yeah, that stuff happens all the time. Obviously, you're very proven at this point. But when you were coming up, did you feel like you got maybe like a little more of a help at hand from your dad? Yeah, you know, when I was, when I started, you know, dad was still racing when I started racing and really, really through my

mid late teenage years that was still racing so he wasn't at every track with me every weekend he had his own job so um but i did feel like you know growing up it's like oh that's blaney's kid you know that's dave's son see how he is right is he worth the shit or something like that and um so yeah i think there was a little bit of that pressure it's like all right i got to live up to what my dad can do and you know try to make it like he did uh so there was a little bit that as a kid but i think you grow out of it like as you get older you realize you're your own person and and you kind of do things your own way and start living by your life instead of your like your parents right or someone who came before you was that a difficult process to get to that point though fighting them pressure and then

being like okay i got to be my own self here in the same avenue that my father made a little bit i feel like there was always you felt like there was always so many eyes on you like i got to do good i got to prove myself i don't want to look like a clown so i feel like yeah that was a big thing growing up trying to overcome that as a kid that's hard to overcome you know you're already kind of shy and nervous as a kid and then you have all these eyes on you and you're having to prove yourself and live up to expectations that that can be a lot on a kid and luckily it all worked out was it one of those things too like when you would win and if your if your dad your old man wasn't there like you're you're calling to be like hey I won dad's the first guy I call after every race even nowadays like it's

just how that's how it's been for 20 years and that's just how it is you know so he's just and it's the role has changed over the years like I used to call my dad for advice and now it's just calling him just to call him you know and and talk to him just uh so almost routine. So yeah, he's still the first one in my phone. That is cool. Your dad was in his prime right now. Who would win in the race? I've always thought my dad was the best race car driver I've ever seen. I think whether that's just a son and me, um, you know, admiring your parents, I think dad's the best one that's ever lived, you know, and that's just how it's always been. So I feel like if dad was in his prime, if we were both 30 years old going at it, I feel like he would, he would, he would beat me. He would tell you

opposite. He would tell you that I would beat him. But, um, yeah, dad to me is will always, And always has been, always will be the best one out there. Who would? Who would, would, want? Does anybody back there have an idea? That's good. Put him on the spot. Yeah, yeah.

Like, you just wonder if somebody sit back there like, oh, you know, actually, Ryan would dust. Ryan would have, you might edge your mouth. A man wouldn't stay in a chance. Dave's got that. My dad's still races. My dad's 61 and he still races dirt sprint cars. That is badass.

Yeah, he gets after it. Yeah. Because there is that, I feel like with father son, I have two girls, but father's son, like dynamics, there's always like a point in life where it's like, kid beats you in shooting hoops. Kid beats you on air hockey or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you guys ever have one of those moments?

Yeah. We were a big ping pong family in my household. And I remember I got to the age, I started beating my dad in ping pong and like, horse, you know, basketball and it just, yeah, just grinded his gears.

Yeah, I feel like ping pong. I've seen father's sons go at it and like, when the son's taken over, like, he is painful for the old man. Yeah, yeah. I feel like that's anything. Your girls might do it to you.

When they start beating you and anything, you're like, I'll make sure. Make sure of it. What do you guys want to go on the field and block? You guys need to beat me? Let's go. Get the pads on.

Yeah, get the pads out. We're going to get the one-on-ones. Yeah, yeah. Do one-on-ones outside. What's been the biggest win, outside of being the NASCAR Cup Series champion, the biggest win of your career where you feel like, yo, I'm on my way. Biggest moment where you've had the biggest high of winning. Yeah, you know, I feel like it's either your first one.

I won my first cup race in 2017. So I feel like, you know, then it's like, all right, I feel like I'm kind of here, right? It was my second year in the NASCAR deal. And I'm like, all right, I feel like I'm kind of established. Like I finally won a race, all that. Either that one or we won at Martinsville to get us to Phoenix this year. I grew up just south of Martinsville, Virginia.

That was like a home track for me. So I think winning at my home track, went in there to get to Phoenix. That's won us a championship. I was pretty fired up on that one. So I think either one of those two is, It's the top one. Yeah.

How high up is Talladega Nights on your list of movies? It's up there. I like Talladega Nights. I usually tell people it's 95% true. Oh, really? I love that. Good whole. Good.

Is Talladega Nights accurate? I'm like 95% of it. Yeah, it's based on my life. Based on my life. Yeah. What's the 5%? When he's in the wheelchair, particularly he doesn't have let his legs don't work.

All the shifting. All the shifting. Yeah. Or John Gerard drinking a fucking macchiato or something. Well, he's out there. You know, do that? No. You never do a shake and bake out there?

Shake and bake. You guys have cool handshakes. Sometimes. Yeah, we have cool. A few of us have cool handshakes. If you want to be the racer, you claim to be, you need to have a secret handshake with every one of the guys in your picture. It's like, like LeBron has it with every guy on his team. Yeah.

It's like, I don't know. Most quarterbacks, you see Josh Allen with the bills. He's dapping everybody up doing all these cool things. I don't know how they learn that. It's like they're throwing gang signs out there. There's so many people on the roster. How do you remember all the handshakes? Did you guys have handshakes with everyone on your roster?

We got one. You want to see you a quick? It's just a little. That's a little something. It's a small one. It's a bigger ones are a little bit more. There's a more elaborate one we haven't seen for a long time. There's a big hug involved.

Yeah, yeah. It's very special. You choreograph it though. Like you practiced it and everything. Yeah, my daughters and I, we have secret handshakes. Nice. Yeah, yeah. I think maybe with my kids, when I do have them, I'll make a handshake.

You were talking earlier. You said sometimes on the shake and bake. That stuff happens. We don't like say shaking baking in the car. I'm saying if team members are out there and it's like, you know, right, right, right. Yeah, Ryan's got the faster car. Yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, you see your boys set each other up.

Hey, man, you know what? You got the gas. I got to, I got to hit the pit soon. But I'll ride you out so that way you can climb up. No, I mean, we're like, we don't talk to each other during the race. Like if us three were drivers, like, I can't talk to you. Why? Like, we'll just different teams, different radio frequencies.

I can't just chime in, but hey, Ryan, you're doing a hell of a job, man. I'm going to try to hold these boys off back here. No, you can't do that. God. That's the guy you want racing for you. That's the guy we need. That's the guy we need. No, well, we can't talk to each other on the radios, different drivers.

But the, what did you say, the slingshot shot? Yeah. There's a variation of it. Like, if we go to, like, Taladega or something like drafting tracks, like, you'll see people do that. But you're not like, it's not choreographed. It's like. When you say drafting tracks. Yeah.

Is that like longer straightaways? Yeah, yeah. Then you get the speeds up higher. Talladega, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the big race tracks. Are those the kind of tracks you like to race? What's the perfect race for you? You're like, yes, I'm going to my spot here.

The short tracks are great. Like, Martinsville, like a tiny half mile. Like, that's a tiny race track. The bigger one, I mean, our tracks range from half mile to two and a half miles. So massive differences. Which one did you go to? I went to PIR and the one in Nashville. Oh, okay, okay.

Yeah, so they're PIR and Nashville. They're like just over a mile. So you imagine these places are over twice the size of like Nashville. Yeah. These big, big places. Yeah, that's where you see that a little bit more. And you like the short tracks, like from a technical standpoint, is it more difficult? Just technical.

Yeah. The better driver shows out in the shorter tracks. Yeah, yeah, I think so. And all of us grew up racing those. I see you. I'm out of here kind of cooking right now. You're sitting out of working. I might get behind the wheel.

You might. You might be? You might be? No. You are taller than I thought you'd be, though. 6-7, brother. Yeah. It's a lot of length.

I thought you were like 6-3. I was hoping. That's actually, like, 6-7 to me is like kind of like zoo animal-worthy. It's too tall to me. Right. I think that 6-2, 6-3 ranges is perfect. right like that now I'm just kind of like this Neanderthal walking around the earth well and then everyone sees you out at a bar you're like everyone comes probably comes out to you like what do you do something

yeah how do you play for yeah the good news is I was able to play for a team definitely I think about those guys that are my height that didn't make it it's like you just got to go your whole life telling people no I never played sports yeah yeah and that's kind of a nice little dub for me to walk around it and I've also lost 60 pounds people are like you look you look familiar yeah yeah I got baseball in Vegas a couple weeks ago really play baseball I go I got to gain some weight That's what I knew. Hey, listen, we got to put some LPs on. Yeah, baseball.

I noticed your left-handed. Are you a pitcher? Yeah. From organized sports, did you ever play them? Did you ever want to do them? Yeah, I played baseball. I played basketball. I loved it.

I love playing basketball the most probably. My uncle is my dad's brother. He's 6'4. He's in the West Virginia Hall of Fame for basketball. Got drafted by the Lakers in the 80s. Oh, shit. I did summer ball with, like, magic and shit. And heard him.

That's what? Yeah. The knees were destroyed. and ended up going racing. But yeah, I love basketball just because I grew up around it. My family, I love baseball. I got hit in the face with the pitch one time. And I was like, yeah, I'm done playing baseball.

I'm not doing this anymore. 10, 11. We had a conversation yesterday. And I literally like 8, 9, 10 years old. I quit hockey once the checking started. Baseball, I'd always step away when I swung. Brown balls came. I was like, get me the fuck out of here.

I was like the biggest pussy growing up of all time. So I share that with you. We have something in common. We're just both with you. I share that with you, brother. Here we are. What's your favorite sport to watch? Obviously, you're NASCAR guy.

Yeah, I love, I love, I love watching football, probably college and professional kind of equally. Like, I'm from Ohio, so I watch Ohio State. That was a rough one the other day. I would disagree. I would say it's the opposite. I know. I know. I saw your sweatshirt on it.

I went to Michigan. Yeah. Just, we won't get into it. I know. Yeah, we won't get into it. And then I'll watch. I'm a Bengals fan, Browns, and now I watch Panthers. You are picking.

Just because I live there. Well, I live in Charlotte and then I'm from Ohio, but Bengals I felt good about this year, but it's been a... I know until Joey B went down, man. Cleveland's actually not that bad this year. They're not bad, but it again... They're actually decent. Defense, run the ball well?

Yeah, yeah. You never know. It's a real fan. What do you guys watch mostly now? Like, what's your go-to? Football. Is it more college or professional? Man, I don't know.

I like watching college better. Yeah. It's more, I feel like because I'm more, way more removed from college. It's kind of like fun to watch like just the different talent levels and guys. It's like more pure. And the league, it's like every, the world is built to be a 500 league. Like every team has built a certain way. And there's obviously your outliers.

And it's for me, it's like on college Saturdays, you're able to like more mistakes happen. More things can swing one way or another. And I think that's awesome. Yeah, yeah. No, that's why I like watching. We have a like a, like a, what are the, what are the cannonballers? Like a triple A, single A? we have a single-A team by the house baseball

and I love watching those games because you see mistakes there's a lot of people screwing up and that part to me is kind of fun to watch it's the bloopers of the game that are kind of like you guys would get there well it's like you're human you know like you make mistakes too like the pros are so good like they rarely see mistakes right

right it's fun to see that like NFL I like watching like the individuals more than yeah you know everything I was like college team team spirit yeah team spirit live and die with the squad yeah yeah which at this one we're dead Yeah. Nebraska kid.

Oh, you're a brassia? It's been a rough go. Yeah. We are about to be done? He did, I mean, he did say he has a parade where he's going to be drinking and driving in the parade. For anybody who's down there listening to this. Real quick before you go. What opportunities to do acting to be in cars?

Like, how did that all happen? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was in Cars 3. I did the Magnum PI episode. How sick is that? Magnum PI. Eddie George was in that episode. Yeah.

Yeah. Who was that one guy that was in it? The guy from the Hanian guy. Yeah. Yeah. That guy. I forget his name. Bobby Lee's older brother.

Yeah. Everyone knows who we're talking about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The hangover guy. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. I mean, I love doing that stuff. The Magnum P.I thing was sick because they film in Honolulu. And I was actually in Maui on vacation. And they called me and they were like, hey, you want to come film? And I was like, fuck yeah. I'll just get on a plane and island jump here. And we filmed that and I went back on my vacation.

But hopefully I'll do more of that stuff. I enjoy doing it. I enjoy seeing the behind the scenes that go into that stuff. It's always super cool to me, all the people that are involved in it. So, yeah, we'll never, never know. I've been trying really hard to, I was trying to get one of the Star Wars sequel movies. I saw that that was one of your, I never got in there. One of your interests of Star Wars.

We could talk about Star Wars all day long. Yeah, the good news by Star Wars, they're going to make a billion more of those things. They're going to have time. Hey, he's not a Star Wars guy. No? It's not that I'm not a Star Wars guy. I just haven't taken the time to go watch Star Wars. So technically I'm not a lot of time.

It's a lot of time. you got to dedicate to it. It's like the Marvel universe. There's so many at this point. I can't get into it. Yeah. I've given up on Marvel a little bit. I've got a wife.

Yeah. I got this job. I got shit going on. Yeah. I got shit going on. Yeah. It gets it down and watch 36 movies. Right.

You got blipping. Hang on. You got blipping. You got blipping. You got bliping. Yeah. Exactly. Dude wipe shittiest moment segment.

What's the, what's been the shittiest moment of your career? Do you use dude wipes? The shittiest. Oh. You should. Go and grab that bag right there. I think I should.

I have been regular T.P. That thing, that's, that's caveman stuff right. None of the little, uh... No, T.P. anymore. No, the dude wipes is where it's at. Those little dangleberries you get out in the shower, no more with dude wipes. None.

They would be good after a race. There you go. The shittiest moment of my career. I love how he went over that. We were right over that comment. What's the worst moment of my career? I don't know. I hit really hard in Nashville this year at this track.

Earlier this year. Like, really, really hard. That was probably the shittiest moment. Hard hits are always usually. pretty bad. Takes you a little bit to get over them and recover,

but yeah, I'd say that was probably the shuddy. From a physical standpoint or you're just like both mentally, mentally, mentally?

Like, is it like an embarrassing thing or you're just like kind of like a little gun shy when you get back out there? I wouldn't say I'd say more like yeah, like are you on fire? Like you're like thinking straight.

Yeah, like that stuff. Is that one of the most common injuries with NASCAR? For us, yeah, I would say we've done a really good job at it. We've gotten way better over the years and we're working at it.

but that's like the biggest thing in our world right now, safety-wise, that we're trying to get sorted out. And that's with everything. I mean, it's hard to fix that. But that's the biggest thing that we work on, trying to fix concussions. Yeah. Yeah.

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