Bussin' With The Boys - Ryan Preece & Chris Buescher Talk Their Ongoing Prank War + Ryan’s INSANE Daytona Crash | Racin'

Episode Date: August 13, 2026

Recorded: July 21st 2026 | Welcome back to another episode of Racin’ With The Boys. This week we have two of the three drivers from RFK Racing, Ryan Preece and Chris Buescher. Chris just recently signed a multiyear extension with the team so the boys give him his flowers for that. Then we get into the nitty gritty, Ryan and Chris have this ongoing prank war going on against each other. The guys get into how all of that started, who pulled the first prank, who maybe went too far, and what the next prank may be.  The guys then get into what each of their journey’s was like coming of through the NASCAR ranks. Chris being from Texas and Ryan being from Connecticut, both of their journeys were very different. Chris and Ryan also talk about what it’s like racing their team owner every week. The K in RFK Racing stands for Keselowski, being Brad Keselowski. They get into what it was like at first realizing that the guy who signs your checks, you’re also competing for the win. The guys finish the pod off with talking about Ryan’s absolutely insane crashes at Daytona. He says how chaotic, or maybe not, the wrecks were and how he has since been able to profit off of them. Ryan and Chris also get into what it was like racing Crown Vics and Talladega with Cleetus McFarland. The whole thing sounds crazy and one of them say it was the craziest thing he has ever done is his life. Come join the boys for another fun episode, enjoy.   0:00 Intro3:24 Chris’s New Contract4:26 Prank Wars15:56 Rules When Racing Your Teammate22:51 Keselowski Gordon Fight25:02 Who’s The Next Driver To Throw A Punch?28:02 Lesson’s Learned Coming Up The Ranks29:46 Biggest Rivals For Each Other32:23 Pit Crew Gifts33:36 What’s It Like Racing Your Owner37:45 Start Of Their Friendship 41:18 Does Being A Mechanic Help Racing?47:56 Finding The Love Of Racing56:18 Daytona crashes1:04:26 What Needs To Happen To Get Back To The 90’s & Rivalries1:16:08 Racing Crown Vic’s At Talladega1:22:04 Cleetus McFarland 1:23:42 Freeloader Farm1:36:57 Worst Financial DecisionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Make sure you're subscribed. Let's go. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Racing with the Boys. We have two good buddies now teammates. Good buddies. On the podcast, please give it up for Ryan Priest. I'm just going to say it because this is how I want to say it. Chris, Bobby Boucher.

Thanks. Tell us how you feel about being racing with the boys right now? Pretty stoked. I'm excited to get into this. Yeah. Chris too, and by the way, congratulations. Just signed with RFK last month, yeah? Yeah, yeah.

Big contract. Absolutely. Guaranteed money. Getting ready to, I mean, there's always a little bit. Yeah. Your own BJ? I can't say that one. Not quite a full PJ.

What do the contracts look like? Is there a lot of guarantee? Are we fighting for more guarantees or is it fully guaranteed? That's a little bit all over the place. Okay. Yeah, I'd say there's always mixes of guaranteed and then there's performance clauses. And I would bet on about everybody's stuff, which is just a percentage of winnings. And that probably percentage varies based on if it's.

P1 or if it's 30th on the day, whatever the race event goes, it'll lose percentage as you go down, typically. Okay. All right. All right. I like that. You guys being boys, Chris, I know when I'm going over the notes and everything else, you seem like more of the quiet assassin. Before you get on the team with your boy, Ryan, it sounds like Ryan brings out the personality in you, because you guys have this little prank war going on with each other to where fans can now see the boy Chris operate a little bit. Yeah, that's fair. Ryan's, among other things, been called an enabler. Yeah, fair enough. That's probably the best PG version of it.

But yeah, it's kind of created some eye-catching moments and some that we probably shouldn't talk about. But yeah. I'm sure Ryan will be happy to talk about. Yeah, he will. Not a whole lot, but I'm from New England, right? I'm from Connecticut. He's from Texas.

He's very laid back. And I think, as you guys know, people from New England are like high-strung. on the go. Especially when the Patriots are good. Ball busting. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

Very much ball busters. Like, unless you want to, like, unless you just say like Texas is smaller not that great, like they're going to keep to themselves a little bit more. Yeah. That's exactly how it is. So when, uh, so Chris was actually the one who started the whole thing with prank wars. I get done. That's a crazy turn of events, Chris.

Yep. Exactly. You wouldn't expect that. Well, I get done with the race at Kansas and there's a door missing off my Bronco, my rental car. And I drive to the airport without a door because he felt the needs. to take it off. And put it in the back of mine. Yeah.

But it should be noted. It's like a 35 minute drive to the airport in Kansas. So it is a little bit of a hike. I mean, in the scheme of pranks, it's like good prank. That's good fun. But the one that could just piss you right off. Right. For 35 minute drive to the airport, like, yeah, that's funny.

But what the fuck, man? See, in my brain goes the opposite. I think that's good old fashioned fun. Like the point of a prank is inconvenience to the other, not harm or destroy. But just take a car, take a car door. Broncos, they're used to just, you can pop them things off, no problem. I think that's good, clean fun. What year is this when and we're in Kansas, the race takes place and we do the first prank?

Yeah, so that was last year. This is a recent beef. Yeah. Yeah, this was last year in October or September. And I had quite the long day, too. Remember you said during the race, you saw, I was having a tough day and you were thinking, man, that's going to suck. Yeah.

Oh, so you did pre-race. I did it pre-race. Yeah, while the garage opened. and Ryan's pretty famous for going everywhere early on race day. So I found his rental. He parked it a little too close to the fence, so I couldn't get both doors off. But I did get one.

And I did think to myself during the process. It only took about 10 minutes to get the door off, right? It was pretty simple. And I thought to myself, I was like, man, if he has a bad day, this is not going to be very funny. And somewhere in that race, you had a bad day. And it did dawn on me, as I should have. been focusing on other things. I was like, uh-oh. That's no longer as comical as I thought it was.

It was pretty funny. It still gets worse. So your wife was very, very pregnant at the time. And it did also click. I was like, man, what if he needs to be on the phone on the way the airport? He's not to be able to hear a thing, right? Air just swirling in there. Good thing is it's a rental. It's a rental. Yeah, they didn't even have a clue that we took the door off. Because when we got to the airport, you did put it back on. But yeah, it's just kind of started this whole thing ever since then. I waited until the last race of the season. And what I did is at Phoenix.

Nice. We had practice that day. Well, he was in early at a meeting and all these other things he was doing. So I went, I saran wrapped his car shut. I had it towed. So we didn't have a car at the racetrack. I had a towed directly to the hotel, wrapped it in Christmas lights. and then I zip tied the drive shaft.

Have you ever had somebody put zip ties on your drive shaft? I mean, honestly, I don't even know what the drive shaft is. That's kind of where you got me out. I'm over here smiling like drive shaft. I'm thinking, ah, what's the drive shaft? So you zip tie the drive shaft. You saran wrapped it. You put Christmas lights on it, you got it towed.

So we could just go ahead and say that's a couple steps above, taking the door off. Yeah, I took it to the extreme. Good. It's a retaliation, though. Yeah. So remember when I put the whipped cream pie in Ben Jones's face on his birthday? Yeah.

Because he would go around and get everybody, but the boys got me going like, hey, you should get Ben. And then Ben goes to wild extreme during meetings and puts like a stink bomb. Well, I was telling you, we were sitting on here before the show, and I was like, we had a guy who would take pranks to a new level. He had a fart can that would like, you put a smell on something that came from like a skunk.

And he would just go and do it to random people. And the rest of the day, they stunk. And their clothes were ruined. He was like, that's good fun for Ben Jones. It's good fun for Ben Jones. Yeah, for Ben Jones. Because then there was another point. too Ben was like I was thinking about going to harm waffle yeah yeah waffle is his uh

english bulldog so he put an object well you know i won't say the whole thing because i was like bro that's fucking crazy i just put you whipped cream pie everybody in the face like i just got you yeah and did you do anything after that no so ben kind of he probably you ben probably did to you what you were hoping you were hoping just to end it and have it be done forever but chris you said oh no that's not how this game's going to go it felt elsewhere evaded. Okay. So we wait, so September happens. All right, we get a door taken off. I'm just trying to follow the bouncing ball.

We get to the end of the year at PIR. Where, what, what time is this? That's November. November. 25. November of 25. So we waited a few months. The dust is settled. People are thinking, oh, this little interaction is done. Now this happens. In your brain, what are you thinking? You're from Texas.

You don't mess with Texas, especially your car. I had a, had a suspicious feeling that it was probably coming. And so I did happen to park next to a 100% identical rental car with the hopes that he would get the wrong one. That didn't quite work. I also cranked the wheel all the way in a very narrow lot

to make it hard to be able to get it out. And they drug it out. I can see the drag marks in the gravel where they got it out of there. It should also be noted that we were on a tight time frame to meet our new team president for the first dinner. We had a car service at the hotel that I no longer could get to because I was missing a car. And I was a little late to our inaugural team meeting. Our first time meeting the president of our company.

So maybe a little anger. It felt elevated. It felt elevated. It did it to a whole new level. What are you telling the president, the new president? the new president. Are you sitting there to be like, hey, pranks am I right? Welcome to the crew.

He's getting pretty good laughs out of all of this. So I got a bunch of well done text messages from last weekend before it ever really hit the interwebs. So, yeah, I think we're in a good spot. Now, is that the last prank that's taken place since these first two pranks? Well, he was taking really long and I was like, man, I got this great idea. So when we went to Atlanta or Echo Park Speedway, I bought four billboards to put all over Atlanta, come see Chris Busher race and visit Prosper, Texas, which is where he's from. And we kind of made him look like another billboard out there that advertises for a, you know,

a gas station. So we took that as well as Minute Rice. We shot a social media video that has Chris in like this red wig. So I put his face with the red wig on it. So it was on I-75 all over Atlanta. Wasn't a wig. Georgia. Wasn't a wig.

Yeah. Wasn't a wig. It was in a rig. And what did you, Chris, what did you find out about this? As we were getting right ahead to Atlanta. Ryan's really bad about using AI for, you know, small Photoshopped moments. And I seen the billboards from that. And you could tell that they were Photoshopped in order to get the, I guess, the preliminary done, right?

And it must have just been what was used. for the actual thing. So I'm sitting here like, oh, it's fake. Like, you used AI. I know this is fake.

It's, it's all over my, my Twitter feed, I guess, or I don't know where you post stuff, but, but it's, Facebook's a world,

Mispase. So it was everywhere. Yeah, Myspace. It's right below my playlist. And it, it dawned me, I was like,

there's no way. It's fake. Like, you're not going to spend that kind of money. I was like, I didn't feel like I've done anything to deserve this yet. And,

and sure enough, we had people start, commenting like hey i just seen it i took a picture and uh and it was one of those electronic billboards so it even a picture looks kind of fake i was like oh he's he's got his friends sending tweets right now that are uh are saying they see it and um yeah it looks fake it looks fake and uh and it does kind of look fake like somebody put it out like there's no leaves on the trees right there's no leaves and this was two weeks ago yep and it didn't make sense and um well that's because It was a superimposed image for when I gave him the approval.

Yeah. And then all the fans actually driving up and down 75 were taking pictures of it. God, that's awesome. Copied it 100%. And it actually exists. My crew chief drove down to Atlanta with his daughter. And he sent me a message as we were getting on the plane to head down. He said, hey, just want to point out it's real.

Oh, no. Got it. All right. Well, that's perfect. It's a good, clean fun one right there. That's clean fun. That could have been the retaliation one versus you get his truck towed, wrap, locked.

He's late to be the first one. He's late to meeting the first president. Exactly. The day before all of this goes down, I had already taken possession of his new Ford loaner and started. Yeah, so as drivers, depending on the OEM you're with,

you get a loaner vehicle for the year. Okay, a little perk of the train. So mine's apparently an F350 duly. Oh, very nice. Didn't see that on the selection list, did you? And then this is great, crazy, this is what you did. This happened before the billboard. I did not know about the billboard yet.

He did not know about this. And this happened Thursday before Atlanta. We did this in the shop at RFK while you were in the gym on the other side of a garage door. They closed the door that's usually open. And they had it closed. And I'm just thinking they're doing maintenance on our pit stop car. And apparently they were wrapping that truck. So all I had to do was,

walked 30 feet and I would have saw it. So this is a bang, bang, situation. And that's where we stand now. Is this where we're at? Now it's my turn again. It's your turn again. See, I just don't feel it. Any good ideas? Listen, we can have a brainstorm on this podcast if you like to. How far do we want to go?

Pretty far. You saw how far I'm willing to take it. I think. Yeah. No doubt. Like your reaction here, you're like, oh shit, we're both getting each other right now. Yeah. Like, it's in the works. That's right. So this could be one where you guys squash it, hey, but somebody, you know, somebody else to make a move. I think I'm going to wait a little while, you know, get through, get through trying to make the chase and, and maybe get into September, October. But, yeah, I'm down for some ideas.

Yeah, we'll definitely, we'll get you. If we don't come with anything on this show, we'll definitely get your number and we can help with any type of prank that you might need. Could this ever come out? Could this competitive nature ever come out on the track to where you guys may be in the lead and one bumps the other? That'd be a good prank, racing one and two. And last live, the one who just crashes the other. break each other. This is my one.

This is my one. That is, that is, uh, teammate racing 101. If, uh, if one or two of you have a shot to win, you better not let the third place car win. Like, you can push and shove all you want. But if you let somebody else win when one of you should have, that's where it becomes a problem. And, uh, and no longer a prank. So that's right. That's when the, that's the president's called in the office a little bit.

Didn't that happen with somebody we had on and where we were talking about the race? Maybe it was, was it with Denny Hamlin? Who, who am I thinking of? Who? It was Denny and Bubba, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then who messed it up?

Was it Bubba that messed it up? Or Denny? Who was going to win? Who was going to win? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys know? No. You guys don't know.

I think it was Denny. He's a owner. Is that 2311, right? Yeah. He was going, he wrecked Bubba is my assumption because I mean. Mitch, do you know? He's definitely rearing its ugly head right now. You don't remember?

I know. C. Yeah, see, D, he's coming. It's coming. I feel like they know and they don't want to tell us and now we're just sitting and you're playing the guessing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now we're kind of, we're on the island, which is good because they've been on the island the whole time. Yeah. It's good for us to fight through this right now. So whoever messed up,

the message to them, teammate one-on-one, yeah. If you're about to win, you don't mess with the other car. Is this the race right here? Who? Oh.

It was Denny and Bubba out front and then Denny kind of ran Bubba high and then Chase like this. Oh, so the owner. Denny's 11. Yes. Bubba's 23.

So right there, you got, you got his teammates. You're letting three win there. That's bullshit. Yeah, that would not go over. Yeah, that's on the microphone. I'm taking a $75,000 fine. I'm going to go rear, rear naked choke this cat. Oh, man.

Yeah. Go back, Mitch? Hmm. Okay. Ryan, say, say you're 23. Yeah. Chris, you're 11. What should be happening here?

Teammate 101. You're breaking it down. Well, you're racing, right? You're racing. Yeah, that's racing. See, what? happens right here is when when Bubba gets close to his door it just puts

a lot of air on the rear spoiler and it makes the 11 tight so I don't think Denny meant to drive up the track but it happened and it really was just racing then they allowed the three to win that's just racing you guys this is post race you guys are playing this out

conversationally this one isn't the worst offender right like it's not like you you blatantly dump somebody that was hard racing and it didn't work out and it was close, right? Can I just tell you guys how I feel about that answer? We'd love to hear it. I hated it. Here's why.

We, before this video came on and Will and I got put in a blender for a couple of moments, you guys said, if your teammates and you're racing one and two, your only objective is to make sure that three doesn't win. Now we're watching a video of this exact situation happening. You're like, well, you know, hard racing. It's hard racing. Yeah. You guys afraid of Danningham one? It's a, it's a, they might be like kind of scared.

Is he really good Is MJ in their head right now? Is Denny Ham on like Voldemort on the track? Oh my. Yeah. So basically you guys have the floor. Another Harry Potter reference. You like that.

Look at that. So we're racing one and two. Yeah. We get up close the door. You said something about a spoiler. You said wind is getting in. I'm going to leave this one to Prosper, Texas. Ross for Texas.

You have the floor. I mean, at the end of the day, yeah, that's hard. There was nothing into it. It was trying to figure out of win. and it just got in a bad situation but I promise it will be a bad Monday.

Actually, it'll be a bad... So there's actually a piece at our contracts that says, do not wreck your teammate unless it's for the win on the last lap. I'm pretty sure yours says that as well. Or maybe it's not in the contract, but it was like a little piece of things that we were given.

A fortune cookie or something like that? Yeah, kind of. You guys are like, hey, these are your obligations. These are what we expect of you. All right. This is, yeah, that's inside the team meeting room. Hey, guys, this is how we expect to win this race. If you're going to wreck your teammate, you better win.

Gotcha. There it is. If Denny's making that move, he needs to win that race. If he would have won, he would have come out of there and been like, that's just, that's, that's hard racing. That's fine. So let me ask. Since he lost it, it's like, Danny, he kind of fucked up right there. Yeah.

I'm sure he wasn't happy either. No. No. I think there's a... Since the boys will seem a little bit nervous about Danny Hammond game about all this. I think we got there. It's a little nervous right now. Danny shouldn't have made the move.

Who was in the wrong here? Who could have done better? Who could have made the situation better to where. 2311 wins this race. Sounds like 11. Well, sounds like 11. The 11 could have wet 2311 win the race if he wanted to, but he's not, he's not trying to win for 2311 in that moment.

Man, I love the discomfort in this part right now. Yeah, I got to like how we're at right now. I love where we're at. So this is this happened to you guys. This happened to you guys. You guys are all good. Hey, yeah, it's just racing all. No worries.

See, here's the thing about this. It's the final lap, final corner. The 11's trying to get under the 23, and the 23 is trying to side draft him back. And it just, that was the outcome of it. Right. Now, it's completely different if somebody goes in there and just absolutely obliterates,

like intentionally wrecks the guy, right? And says, oh, man, I'm sorry afterwards. I think that's the frustrating thing is when you know what the intentions are. and then it falls up, man, I'm sorry. That's a frustrating case. How easy is it for you to tell as a racer when things are intentional versus an accident?

It's pretty obvious. I love him. Keep going to Chris. He's a Texas guy. The Texas guy's the ones to call like this. If you're trying to go to the quiet one to get the answer, you're the outspoken one. Why are you out here?

That's it, man. We already know my problem. I'll tell you why. Steve's got the headphones on out there. That's right. You guys are a little nervous. I hear the giggles. C.

Yeah, that's it. Oh, Steve's still sitting out there? Oh, you know Steve sitting out there. He's the ride back. Yes, he is. I don't want to board that thing. It's a long drive back to show. You ain't lying.

You ain't lying. We talk really big game when there's not a microphone right from our face. But also, no one watches the show, so it's all good. We got some racing fans out there, man. A couple out there, but they're not going to say something. Everybody who's watching this, keep it to yourself. Boom, you have the floor. Perfect.

Look at that. Surprise for Texas. How do we feel about that? About that one? there was room the outside the entire time. So to me, it was a move to try and grab his quarter panel, and there's consequences to putting somebody in a really bad arrow spot the end of the day. You guys are really well media trained.

If, um, no, I think he, I think he gave my media answer. That wasn't a media trained answer. That's just inside ball that you may have not. We got there. Yeah. We got there eventually. God, what was the question I was asking before? And you brought it over to Prosper, Texas.

You just ask the same question six times. How ready are you? How ready are you guys week in and week out to have Kislauski's back? Again, like you want another big one to go down. Like who's the next Jeff Gordon out there? Are you guys always chomping at the bit? Hey, Brad, just let us know, man. The eye contact.

You're just staring at me. I'm ready. You're ready for that songway. You're passing off to Chrissy too much. Yeah, I know I have. For sure. Honestly, so ask that question again because I, It went in one ear and out the other for a second.

Weekend and weekend, like I'm sure you guys bust balls laugh about Kozlowski when him and Gordon got in the pit crews gotten a massive fight back in what was that? 2014. 2014. Now he's your teammate also. He's like the owner too. He's our boss. Yeah, he's your boss too.

But jump into the bed, hey Bradgers, let us know. If anybody looks at you a little sideways, we can get another one going. Oh, absolutely. You can relive 2014 all over again. I don't think. Actually, what was it last year? He ran after Hostvar. On pit road at Watkins Glen.

Right? He ran after him. Honestly, for us, yeah, 100%. We got Brad's back. He's got our back. But it's kind of like the team work aspect of it is we're like stepbrothers. And he's like the dad. You know what I mean?

He's the one that has to rein us in every now and again. Get the young bucks back in line a little bit. That's it. You guys are goofing around a little too much. Yeah. He'll call us out on it real. Yes, he will. I think it costs a lot of money to throw a punch nowadays.

So we have, no, we have the, we have the clear. Go ahead. There's no fines. We have to go ahead. He's like,

you know, Steve, this is Steve as he's out there listening. Steve is directly quoted on racing with the boys that if two drivers get into it, we can let that slide. The issue is when the pick crews get into it, when the big boys get into it.

Okay. So maybe I would take that clip. I would run with it. Next time we get an interaction. swing and when you go to appeal it in front of the board it's like just play the racing with the boys clip and you guys are real roll that's it am i wrong there at all good call someone's gonna step up and do it right someone's got to step up and be the guy to be like he said it's okay to do that yeah yeah we get a little bit of leeway i'm not gonna find out i don't want to be

not the guy in naskar to be like see that clip and be like all right bet uh who's ficy minus your head i've already paid my fine um who's a feisty one man i don't know there's quite a few quiet ones that you can just tell her scrappy. Yeah. I'm trying to think. I thought to... Name a few you. I thought Noah was going to throw a punch in San Diego.

Who's this? I thought Noah. Noah was going to. And... Throw a punch and hit the gritty? And it just... Hit the gritty. I don't know what that means.

He doesn't know what that does. You got to know the... heard that twice today. Yeah. But yeah, I really thought that was going to go down. And he made the same comment that I just made, that it would be expensive and detrimental in that moment to throw a haymaker. So it's got to be a right situation, I guess. You got to feel like you were wrong for the right thing.

I'd say something happens for 15th. You're probably not going to take the risk of finding out, but something goes down for the win and you feel like you were wronged. Yeah. So I think the biggest frustration as a race car driver is when somebody repeatedly makes mistakes and all you hear is I'm sorry constantly. You're not sorry. There is no, there's no sorry. Sorry means he's not going to do it again. You're just saying it because you're a media trained to say it.

Right. So I think that's where a lot of frustration comes as a race car driver. When you get out, you know, and as Chris was talking about, race car drivers, the better we finish, the better we race. So it's almost like running up to somebody grabbing their wallet and, you know, taking, taking food off their table. Yeah. And so that can get really frustrating. Yeah.

Who comes to mind when you're speaking passionately about this frustration? We were locked eyeed right there. And I just knew. You keep locking eyes with me. You're like, I'm hosting a show. I want to look at you guys when I'm talking to you, you know? But you're looking at me being like, it really pisses you off when a guy runs you up a bunch of times to keep saying, I'm sorry.

Yeah. He's got a lot of emotion behind the opinion. Yeah, a lot of emotion. And someone's got to say the quiet thing. loud. You have the floor. I have the floor. Yeah. Okay. Well, what I'll say is I'm a race you like you race me type of person. Yeah, all right. And I've proved that. Okay. Okay. Listen, I don't have the full context of what you just were talking about, but it sounded fucking cool. Yeah. When you said it out loud. That's going to be a great clip and we just make a

highlight. Yeah. We're just going to put a random driver in it. I'm going to race you like you race me and then just the beat drops. Yeah. Shows and winning. Yeah. There you go. I'm sure the NASCAR sickos probably know who he's talking about. You know exactly. They'll let us know in the comments. No, but the racing that I come from and how I came up the ranks is I race against a lot of,

you know, 40, 50 year old veterans and you had to give respect to get respect, right? So if you're not willing to give respect, you're not going to get it in return. Right. When you were coming up and what was a lesson you had to learn to be able to be like, okay, that's how you should race. That's how racing should be done. So there was a, in the Northeast, there was a guy by the name of Ted Christopher, and he was known for what's called the three-tap rule.

And that three-tap rule was like, hey, you know, I hit you the first time. I'm letting you know him there. The second time, get out of my way, or I'm going to move you the third time, you were gone. And there was a race where when I got to him, we had, instead of doors, because these were open-wheel cars, they were called Nerf bars, okay? and I did what a dirt racer would do, except I'm on asphalt, and it was like a slide job, except you would use your Nerf bar to move them out of the way. Well, I did that to him.

Well, the next corner, he shipped me to the moon. No shit. Yeah. And that was kind of, that was a, that was a lesson for me, like, hey, if I want to, you know, not get shipped, I'm not going to do the shipping. And then you just, you race with respect. So I've had my rivalries. I've gone through, you know, I've gone, I've gone through that.

And I think the biggest lesson is, is when you race people with respect, you're going to get it back. So that's kind of, that's my code, right? And you don't, you don't lay a bumper to me. I'm not going to lay a bumper to you. But if you start it, I'll, you know, yeah. You're going to finish it. Not really, but you find a way. We're not going to intentionally finish it.

No, but that's racing. You know, much like Steve reference to is, is we're going to race. And that's what racers. there's kind of a there's a code yeah yeah there's a code that takes place are there any drivers in the NASCAR cup series now that doesn't don't follow that code that you're referring to i don't know yeah i got i got a fun question for them both and it's you answer for the other ryan in your mind i'll start with you who is chris's biggest rival in NASCAR great question you're you're you're gonna spin it out eventually this is this fun yeah but see see that's tough because

Chris is so quiet. Prosper Texas. Like he, honestly, but you know Texas keeps getting brought up. Prosper Texas. Can we pull up Prosper Texas on a map place?

I can see exactly where it is. But I'm telling you right now, Chris is not the guy. Like he races with a bunch of respect. And I don't, I don't really know who you're having your boy, knowing your Prosper Texas boy. Who would you think in his mind like,

oh, that's his, he's happy to get this wing because that's like a, that's low key arrival of his. I don't think that I've got, rivals at this point. Like we haven't had a consistent running, I guess,

back and forth with anybody for quite a while. And maybe that's not a good thing. Maybe it is. But bringing up Prosper, Texas, fix it out here, huh? Chris, for you, who would be Ryan's biggest rival?

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I'll give you approval. It's, well, you and Gibbs had a little bit of a go. earlier in the year, but I think that's been okay since. Well, it's over. I paid a fine. Right. So it's done. It's done.

So the rivalry kind of moves on. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like if you have those moments on track and you're going to feel like you're wrong at times. But it's going to come back around at some point. They always do. So the rival's tight gifts. I don't know if it's a real rivalry.

I don't think it's a rivalry anymore. You feel it. You feel it. It's like, I cut. This is just like being in our gym where there's a bunch of athletes, like our Jackman, our pick crew guys. They're all, they're the same. It is the exact same. Just trying to put press and put on the bottom a little bit.

100%. Are they just massive instigators? 100%. Which one's your favorite? All of them. Oh, that's a good answer. I know Jaquins never bothered you one bit right there on step mill. Because you can always have a favorite.

Yeah. Can I? Yeah, no. There is one. Actually, it's his tire carrier. we like to go back and forth quite a bit that's your guy that's how that's your love that's the one we like to you know

take little jabs at yeah yeah yeah all bust with that's it man what um as the would you would you consider your picker guys like family yeah you love them oh yeah like a father figure to them in a lot of ways not a father figure but maybe like you're the leader you're the quarterback well my jack man literally he like after

after pit practice he'll pick me up like I'm his kids so I don't know if I could be the father but you're like the quarterback to say yeah so when Christmas rolls around What are we getting the boys for Christmas? I took care of my guys pretty well. I feel like I did. Yeah,

no, I had like these custom, actually, I got it. This is what I want to see. This is what you want to say. I want to get that dollar bill out. Hey, okay. Yeah, right. Yeah, no. So I had these money clips made with their names on them and the number 60 and put some cash in there for them.

No shit. Can I see that? It's pretty sick. We got it. There's no money in it now. That's cool, man. There's a little button you press. It's a good gift, too, because it's one you don't think.

about you just don't think about getting as a gift and they use all the time yeah they love them that's pretty slick yeah i like that yeah chris about you what are you getting your boys uh christmas rolls around cash is king and uh mine just didn't come wrapped as cool i guess yeah yeah it didn't look as cool in texas he just gets the the rubber band out of the pocket it is never what's it like for you guys uh racing with brad and also him being the owner how's that dynamic it's it's good but it is certainly tricky at times. I'd say because Brad's a hard racer. He's a, you know, a champion of our sport.

He knows how to win races. And he's, uh, he's had his fair share of run-ins through the years as well, right? So you know it's, um, it's one of those when need be. He's, he's going to get after it. It's a little easier in some ways where he has invested ownership in all three of our race cars. And so you know you're not going to get, uh, wronged in any kind of intentional way, because he wants all of us to succeed, but we are competitors at the end of the day.

I'd say it's a little bit harder from our, well, I'll speak for myself from my point to race Brad at times because his name is on my shirt and my fire suit and my car and my paycheck and not the other way around. So you have to have like that fire and that drive to trying to figure how to race everybody, but there's a little added level of respect once it comes to, uh, Generally, teammates, but also knowing that Brad is also our boss man at the end of the day.

You're like, man, do I pass him here? Do I not pass? Oh, No, you always pass. Yeah.

It's early enough in the race I can pass him here. We're late in the race. Well, it's like, you know, there's situations where you aren't going to hurt each other on the track. When I mean, hurt each other,

I mean, like, hurt how the race is going. So like if, if, let's say, Brad is side by side with somebody and we have a run coming

where you can take them three wide and kind of clear them both, there's definitely times where you'll get behind the guy, you know, your teammate or Brad, and push them by. Yeah. Right? So instead of putting each other in a bad spot. A little shaken bag. A little shaking bag. You know what I mean? A toe takes place.

That's a, I feel like we do that at Super Speedway is quite. We do that. So shaking big is real. Oh yeah. There's been a lot of back and forth on that on every show. Because every show I bring up television. We don't get to just grab a gear and turn around people and drive on. But the principle, I guess, is

rooted in reality. The execution in the movie is wildly exaggerated amongst, well, the entire movie was why. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When you're as are with Fred, he's clearly a team, he's invested, shirts, his names all over the shirt, the fire suit, everything. How much is he willing to give you guys game on how to, hey, this is how you have longevity in this league, this is how you should race this individual?

And how much do you think he's kind of like, hey, this is kind of for me, though. If you want to, you want this information, you got to learn it yourself. So I'll speak on this. Coming to RFK, last year was my first. year and what I've learned is Brad as a raceguard driver is Brad as part of the ownership group he'll sacrifice his team or or things for them to to be able to you know put our group together when when they were doing that so um you know in in 2025 didn't he yeah he broke up his pit crew which his pick crew at the time was one of the best on pit road to make sure that I had

you know a really strong pick crew at the start last year so um yeah so So my opinion of it is Brad is not selfish at all. And he's going to do what's best for the organization. What's something that would surprise people about Brad? Big stock guy. Big stock. And that probably plays into it. He is extremely methodical.

And I don't know if that surprises a lot of people that are big fans. But from a casual fan standpoint, Brad's extremely thoughtful in how he goes about everything, I feel like. And I think that's why he's been such a good race car driver. I think that's why he's been such a good owner at the same time. I think it's why there's just a lot of successes in so many different areas because he is very methodical in everything he does. And there's a lot more than a knee-jerk reaction at any given time. And I just seen it through the years, the last several years, being at RFK

and had a pretty good idea of it before just with some small interaction. actions, but it's, it's in depth. Yeah. That's awesome. Let's get to, uh, let's get to you guys. Let me, let me hear about this love story. We're an individual from the Northeast, another man from, from Tejas. Like, how did you guys become such close friends? Well, it was a 2019 when we first became teammates at JTG, right? And I don't think he knew anything about me and I knew nothing about him. We were just, uh, we were doing these Kroger skits, which is our sponsor, uh, there and still to this day, right? So, um, that was kind of how we, um, that was kind of how. we got to know each other and, you know, I'm really talkative and northeast and very blunt and

like kind of a ballbuster. Yeah. And then he was really quiet. So it just kind of worked really well. So interesting to me was the first Kroger skit that we did, I was the, the ballbuster, the outgoing one, and he was the quiet one, complete roll reversal. I remember thinking, I was like, I don't know if he's going to enjoy this. Like, this might not go over well.

Turns out he's fine. I don't worry. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, but we just, I don't know. I mean, it's easy to get along with him because he's pretty, I don't know, what's the word I'm looking for? I don't know what this is. There's not much like our, we have common interests and there's really no ego, right?

So you can just ban her back and forth and it's a good time. But the toughest thing to me with Chris is that he likes all his trucks lifted. You have a hard time with that Yeah man It's got to be to the ground On the ground Are you a bad guy Absolutely

See I I'm what you call a cake eater I like them both Because I have like this old 77 F100 That I've lowered quite a bit It's more of like a street truck I think that's pretty badass

But now I'm kind of getting into the The 4x4 crew cab We've got a two Like my truck out there right now It has a two inch lift on it So I like them both I like them both

That kind of goes naturally though with the Raptor yeah Yeah, but that's this custom. See, I'm of the stance that, like, I think you can go way too far on a truck, but every truck needs to have a little something personalized to you. You can't just get it off the lot. I get off a lot. Stock's not fun.

Yeah, put something on it, whether it's a little system, exhaust, whatever, something that's near and dear to you. Butterflies. That's what, yeah, exactly. Butterflies, like, I thought, by the way, I think so far from me knowing you matches your personality perfectly. For sure, 100%. Right? Yeah. We kind of feel that way.

I'm a softie. Yeah, but you, you are we on the same page that, like, customizing it. truck a little bit. Absolutely. We've got to have a done. Maybe more than a little bit. I, um, I, I can go both ways. Two wheel drives fine to lower down a little bit, but, um, I like to jump stuff and I

don't like slowing down for speed bumps. And, uh, and I found out there's, uh, there's, there's ways to do that and have a little funnel on the way. And my stuff's not, uh, it's not as quick as Ryan and stuff. It's a little heavier, a little more rotating mass. Yeah. But, um, it's still a, a good time. It's where taking the doors off the Bronco originated.

I wanted him to experience that four by four lifestyle. Keep that custom. Yeah, it's good. You're just trying to culture your friend a little bit. Exactly. When it comes to the lift on your truck, are we going the higher the truck, the closer to God type of mentality?

I'm a little older nowadays. So, yeah, we started there. And we're back to like about four, four and a half inch lifts. That's about where I max out at nowadays. It's matured a little bit. I've matured, right? want to climb up to get into the thing?

I can just barely fit in car washes. Gotcha. Yeah. And I don't like climbing. And yeah. You guys both grew up working on race cars while also driving them. Who would be the most trusting one to work on a race car? Your stuff's broke a lot.

I'm hard on stuff, though. In my defense, it does break a lot. But it's, I do put it together correctly most of the time. I'm just hard on it. See, I have a saying. it nice because I do it twice. Nice. Yeah.

Nice. So there's a car in the garage and one of you are going in to fix the vehicle and they're like, hey, whichever one of you guys want to come in and work on this thing, who would be the man with the keys? To be clear, we have real professionals that work on our race cars now. So they do not allow us in the shop nowadays. Yeah. But we have lots of personal projects and personal race cars.

So I'd say we're fairly good with wrenches. you're a body man I need a body man I need a painter no I mean that's where we've we've definitely grown out we've gotten older we have kids just like you know

you all do and it's it's turned into where now we don't have enough time to work on these projects so life has definitely changed quite a bit but as far as turbo super chargers all that good stuff

yeah I'd trust him putting one on my truck yeah that's nice that's a really nice thing to say do you think like being able to work on vehicles and understanding the insides of downs has helped you guys in your NASCAR career. Oh, yeah. Racing. Yeah.

Yep. I mean, I enjoy it. That's part of racing, though. Like, as far as what the sport was built on, the moonshiner's, like, they all built their cars and wanted to race them. And that's, that's, you know, as far as where I come from, racing modifies up in the northeast, you go up there now. There's a lot of, you know, 20, 25-year-old, 30-year-old kids that work on their own race cars and build race cars. and so yeah, I think it's really important

because it gives you a level of understanding about, you know, you need a fast car in order to go fast and to help the whole process to, you know, I feel like you're like really good about helping your team get from where if you're like, you're all right to getting really fast at mile and a halfs

and some of those other places. It's, you know, And it comes from working on, right? Having an understanding of what it is that you want the race car to do because you've worked on it yourself, right? And that's, oh, there's so many, so many roads to go down on this topic in general. But, but yeah, my dad's a hot rodder, so I grew up working in the garage, holding the flashlight wrong, right? Getting yelled up for that. And then eventually learning the rest of it.

But we were race fans, and it carried over when we started racing. You worked on your own stuff. And it was for several reasons. One was to have an understanding and to say, hey, it's in the right rear is where I need better feel or more platform control or something's wrong and left front, you know, something along those lines. And it's also an appreciation for equipment, right? When you work on your own stuff, you don't go out there and crash everything every week. Yeah. And if you do that, if you go out and crash every week, you don't spend any time refining and making your stuff better.

You just spend time fixing it back to where it maybe was in the get-go. So it's helped us have an appreciation for your race cars, for the work that goes into our race cars to bring into the racetrack every week and know that there's a lot of things that you need to take care of. And then this car has changed a lot, right? This car is a way more robust and it doesn't require the level of respect given to it without a metal body. It's really the main thing.

And with brakes on them that are so good now. whether it's, you know, transmissions. I don't think of transmissions breaking at this point. It's just they're more robust to the point where you don't have to have respect for the race car as much as it used to. But it was certainly extremely helpful getting going through the years. With all the drivers on the field, how many of them know what's going on mechanically? You flag to a level that you guys seem to be at. You hear the way Chris was just talking.

He went to a little daze for a minute there. And he was like, this guy's an encyclopedia. He loves the craft of what happened inside of it. Yeah, he was. other transmissions, I'll tell you. It was just, it was beautiful. I think as the newer drivers come in, the younger drivers, there's not as much knowledge there, for sure,

from what I see. But there's quite a few drivers that have a strong understanding of what makes car fast. I think there's drivers in the field. I bet there's drivers that don't know how to charge a battery. I wouldn't. Well, yeah, maybe for sure. William?

William's been racing. He's more of just. just the driver. Nothing. I don't. Yeah. You don't fault that, but you don't like that.

He doesn't respect. No, I don't think it's a respect. No, actually, I think he's a really good race car driver. He's got a way of doing things. You can tell he's got a way of doing it. Not the way he would do it,

but hey, you know, more than one way to skin a cat, I guess. There is. Yeah, that's right. And so you're like,

William Byron, I love your craft. I love the way you can out. What a cool story. I wouldn't do it that way. First thing comes out of his mouth and William Byron comes up. He's just a driver.

Yeah. But the to tell me, you said it. That was the New England in me right there. He's just, you have to be now, but. Well, it's just, it's totally different, right? And, you know,

every driver is completely different. So William, his story, and I don't, I don't entirely know the whole thing, but I want to say it started with iraising, right? Yeah.

And that was, and then went to eye racing. And that's it, man. It was pretty wild. And, so he can build stuff. Yeah. So it's different.

Yeah. For sure. Yeah, I love it. We're creating beef something right. We are. We're becoming heel of NASCAR. Don't go on that show. They're going to fuck around the whole time.

I'm telling you, I feel like going to the RFK gym has prepared me for this podcast. Boys are going to be loving in the picture. The only difference is nobody's recording me at the RFK gym. Yeah. What is your stance on iraising on the similar? Not for you.

Huh? You love it? I think irasings are huge, like a great platform. It's awesome. I did it when it first came out in, I think 2000. or right around there.

It's been out for a long time. But I did before I racing. It was called NASCAR race in 2003, where you would like download the different cars that you could import into like files on the back end. But yeah, I mean, as I got older and time became, you know, it was a lot,

a lot harder to get free time. Now I don't do it nearly as much. What, uh, what, what started your love for racing like as a young lad? What got that? What got that bug going for you? My father, so my grandfather on my mother's side, he owned a modified that raced in at Riverside Park.

And then my father always wanted to race. So he started racing in street stocks at Thompson, Connecticut. And then he ended up going to late models in Connecticut. And then when I was six years old, he took myself and my two older brothers to go check out what they call quarter midgets, which is like a different version of a go cart for kids. And we went there and that was it. It was like you went from playing baseball and all your kids' sports to going to the racetrack every Saturday.

Yeah. How about for you, Chris? Like I said, my dad was a hot rotter. So, I mean, I was around cars a lot. We were at car shows in the racetrack and in Texas. So we spent, had season tickets to go to the races. So we were around it. I started off on motorcycles when I was five or six, six, I think.

and yeah I mean we started racing those I flipped over the handa bars and got run over and I think my mom kind of pulled the plug on my motocross career right then but my dad had a co-worker that was racing legends cars out at Texmer's Speedway and which are you know 5-8 scale race cars meant to look like the the mid-30s for Chevy Dodges that that were the moonshine running cars right yeah And fired off into that and kind of just caught a bug really quickly. I was like, yeah, this is way better than anything else I could have come up with and made it all the way to, I think, 13 years old. I remember having a sit down in the living room in Texas.

And it was like, hey, if this is a hobby, that's great. We'll keep going to the racetrack on Saturday nights and we'll have fun as long as it done interfere with schooling or whatever career. path you want or if you want this to be your career, it's time to commit. And I was like, well, I don't want to sit at a desk. And this is awesome. So we took off to Charlotte, North Carolina at 13 years old as soon as school let out. And we started traveling up and down the East Coast, racing legends cars, just trying to get in front of the right people and win the right races. And kind of took off from there. So, guys, listen up. We need to talk about something very serious. Oh, no. Breakfast.

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Like, I'll let you talk about yours and then I'll tell mine. I'd say it would shock you when you're 13, 15 years old anywhere in there, right? And you're having conversation with people, friends you've made along the way. way, you would never think that that was a friendship that was going to lead to something bigger at the time, right? I've got friends, good friends that are all the way in Las Vegas that had a huge impact in getting me in front of the right people in North Carolina through, you know, different connections they had to, through car dealerships. I've got, you know, family that, so David Reagan is a retired cup.

race car driver that when he moved out of his family's home in North Carolina, I basically moved in shortly after. And that's how I was able to come to North Carolina and live and be around them. So I worked in David's shop in the evenings. I volunteered for pit practice at Rauch, you know, just a homeschooled through high school. And like I've heard others talk about, I had to go get my GED just because it didn't have time to actually do real schooling. worked out okay at the end of the day right i can spell gED so that's all right i'll say what your your high school story was a little different than mine by high school was pissed we started missing all those those Friday races

that did not go over with like yeah this is this is not acceptable and i was like well everyone's leaving for football games and yeah i think i was in band and um the mariachi band was a nice touch this morning yeah that was awesome and i did play trumpet in school and um I attempted to. I attempted to, I failed band. Dave, you should have said someone with the Ariachia Band was here. I told me, give me that thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You ever reach the first chair? No, I never reached the first chair. That was six or seven, but there was five of us. It did one time in my life, sixth grade. Well done. I celebrated everybody's face in the row. Then I immediately lost it the next week. Man, you got a good memory.

Man, that's wow. Yeah, because I remember that moment when I finally reached the first chair, but I was usually average fourth fifth chair jealous of the others sat back you carry your you carry your yeah you know the little case you take home yeah oh I didn't take it home that's why I failed I never played an instrument in oh for was the recorder is that what they're called the little flute yeah you had all of them the percussion flutes you had trombones tubas saxophone I was rocking the trumpet I thought was what the cool kids did yeah yeah yeah so I did trump because you had to choose between choir and band so in fifth and sixth grade I would choose

band. So I was I was I was I was I was ripping the band I had band class and everything else. He had your location you brought home. Man it'd be awesome to see you in a ska band. Man that's wild. See I was just best friends with my guidance counselor when I would say you got that's it that's it man. That's the connect you had to get the generation. Yeah just simple. I didn't do this assignment. I need to do this yeah miss this class trying to get it done but I graduated did graduate. Dude my I with football for me my guidance counselor was the golden key to get to get to Michigan. My guidance counselor,

I had a 35% in my Spanish class going into the final. And if I did not get a C in that class, I wouldn't have been eligible to go to Michigan. So I go into his room

and I'm like, hey, I'm not going to, I'm going to do construction. It seems like that's where I'm heading. He's like, go take the test. And I'm like, no, dude.

Why would I do that? I'm going to hang out with the boys. He's like, just go take the test. Get that little scantron, put C for every single answer. Leave for, like last one in, first one out.

That scantron. came back, I got a 75% in that class and I was graduating going to Michigan. That guidance counselor ended up becoming the GM for the Raiders, Dave Ziegler. Yeah. He was a gangster, dude. Without him, I'd be working construction.

We would not be hanging out right now. Be on the roads, you know. Yeah, it didn't crazy. How much people just help? What's this a little note here says Daytona crash? Ryan's little crash? What happened here?

You want to show you a picture? Remember he was showing us the photos when we was at, naturally. He had that massive wrecked where we're like, yo, it's crazy trying to show you my truck and I couldn't figure it out until Wilson. Yeah, you got in a blender, remember?

I did, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, most people are just, you know, rent planes. You're floating in the air. Like right there. That's right. And that wild?

That is crazy. Yeah. Like a villain in Potter. It is. Love the astronaut tees you made after that too. Yeah, to the moon. That was a, yeah, it was a wild one. honestly, there you go.

Ryan Priest Racing. Make sure you go get some merch. There's fine. But it's, yeah, I mean, that was a wild one because I just remember getting hit from behind and heading towards the grass

and then everything getting completely silent and that was it. And then I was out long for the ride. So it's, yeah, just I guess every NASCAR enthusiast that loves Daytona Motor Speedway is pissed at me. because the entire backstretches are just paved now.

There's no grass. Really? Yeah. Yeah. And the reason is because when the car caught air going over. That is so crazy. Yeah, it's not over yet. Don't worry.

We still got another few seconds. And right here, you're just, this is not good. You ever see? So Taldingy and Heights, remember Ricky Bucky? He's just like, all right, I'm flying through the air. This is not good. This is not good. That's exactly what was happening in my head.

Are things, when you're in a crash like this, is it like happening in slow motion for you? Or is it just chaos and all of a sudden it's over? So I close my eyes and I hope for the best. Yeah. So it happens pretty quick. It's going to grab onto the harness and just. I feel like if you keep your eyes open, it's probably going to go a lot slower. But they also say there's a good chance that your eyes could like fly out here.

What? Yeah. Like dirt. That sounds like one of those like if you sneeze with your eyes open, your eyes are going to pop out. Hey man. Have you heard that as a kid? Yep. Or they're trying to like just trying to get us.

and believe in that? Right. They say spring car drivers, like World of Outlaw drivers, they say if you don't, like, there's been some that. Drag racing too. Yeah, if you keep your eyes open. Yeah, you can close your eyes. Jack, pull it up.

Has anybody ever had their eyes pop out of their head? Look at NHRA. When they pull the shoe, they got to close their eyes at the end. It's 300 mile an hour, too. So that was you too? Yeah. He made a pretty bad habit out of it. Daytona hates me.

But I love it. that one right here did this come after? Yeah, that one was after. That was the one that I ended up doing the whole spaceship thing. That one actually hurt worse. My shoulder didn't feel great for a solid two months after that. In the moment when it's happening, are you thinking, oh my God, not again? Yeah.

I thought I was going to fly out of the track. Because when it shows it, if you go back, if you actually go back to when the car took off, all I can see is just the sky. And I know I'm going 200 miles an hour, right? so I'm thinking I'm going out of the racetrack. So you could have just as easily been 30 feet off the ground as four feet off the ground right there in your mind. Yeah.

Yeah. That's tough. Who's the driver that bumped you there? Well, actually, I didn't. Was it Chris? In the first one, it was actually. Wasn't it. No. So the 20 racks and he comes back across and gets my right front.

But I happen to be around the 43 again. That's never happened like that before and hasn't since. The way that the car took off and just caught. air with the nose. Yeah. It'll probably never happen again. It's good job. But,

Daytona's tough. What is your wife's reaction after this? It's kind of normal. Well, what is? Okay, let's just pretend like we don't know what normal is when you see a crash. Especially if the second one, your wife's going to be like, oh my God. Is he all right? Well, see, that's the crazy thing.

I'm saying like when he comes home, especially of the second one, it's kind of like, hey, what are we fucking? What are we doing? She's not ready to just. So to most people, if they have an accident in their life, it's a big deal, right? Like for us, every weekend, there's a chance that we could end up wrecking, especially, I guess, like that. My wife, I actually used to race against her. So she's a racer.

So she understands, like, when you get in Iraq, it's just part of the game when you strap in. So she's saying walk it off. Yeah. You have some bars on the black size next day. All right. All right. All right. Let's not, let's not doing a pity party here.

Yeah. That's it. Make a t-shirt. My wife. Make a t-shirt. My wife makes me, she says you have to key up the button once it's over. Just let me know you're okay. She says, I'm on the radio, I'm listening if I'm at home, wherever it is.

And so I know that. And while my last flip was not as spectacular, my last one landed upside down and the radio antenna broke off. So I'm in there keying up saying, hey, I'm fine, mainly for team, spotter, wife, everybody. And it was like seven minutes. It was only the second car to flip with the next-gen car, and they couldn't figure out how to flip it back over. So I'm like seven minutes suspended upside down. I'm starting to cut jokes in the car on the radio.

Like, I think I'm the funniest guy in the room. Right. And the radio was broke out of the thing, so no one heard a thing. So people were probably thinking, who knows what happened? He could be dead. Yeah, so everybody. Like, if I'm on the team, I'm already in tears, thinking we haven't got them on the radio. Oh, so my wife was in the grandstands at the top, right below the condos here.

Garwit and ran down through the tunnel to the infield care center. And I came out there. I was like, are you okay? She's all winded, sweat. Oh, my God. And I was like, yeah, I'm good. Are you? Yeah.

And nothing came out of this one. No, that was just, that's just sitting in the museum now at our shop for some reason. I thought there was cooler stuff to put in there. Yeah, just wouldn't have to do on a race day. Yeah. Bro, that first one, you had, at a day. Jonah. That is crazy. Insane.

And it looked like someone just kind of bumped you there? Yeah. No, I mean, you get hit the wrong way at a super speedway. Your car could just go flying. You might be a good person to answer this question for me. When you, that first one where it seems like it's an innocent bump. Yeah. How does NASCAR figure out what's intentional and not intentional when it comes to bump in somebody?

I mean, that was 100% just trying to actually push me forward. that he had no intentions to turn me sideways it was just, you know, with depending on if you're in a Toyota, a Chevrolet or a Ford, how you hit somebody. So at that time, I don't know if Toyota had different bumpers or if it was a Chevrolet that he was driving at the time. Like Chevy specifically, they have a point

on the front of the center of their nose. And if they would hit you offset to the right a little bit, it's just going to shoot you into the infield. So it was actually really difficult for some of the other OEMs to push at a super speedway and when you're getting down to the final five, seven laps of a super speedway race, patience goes down to where you're just like trying to figure out a way to get forward. And that's ultimately what happened.

Does it still like that to where cars have like a different bumper on the front? It seems like the point with kind of a competitive advantage, yeah? They got a dynamics. You're just talking about science. Yeah. Just science again. Just science. The Chevy's got a change this year to where they have a flatter bumper to where they

they definitely line up and it's more comfortable being in front of them taking pushes now than it was at that point for sure yeah was it was there like a big thing that took place for them to change that bumper where forward everybody's like you guys got to do something different here well it seemed like at certain racetracks they'd be good and then when you'd go to super speedway racing their their downfall was they couldn't push like all of us forwards like the fords like the fords we could lock bumpers down the straightaway and just haul the mail and um i don't know if they changed some of that because of that but uh but yeah ford's just the best though that's a people just trying to keep up a ford just trying to keep up a ford in your guys's opinion being a

couple racers now like looking back at the era of the 90s and early 2000s what do you think needs to take place in this generation or era to get you know like the when people say get back to stuff like that what do you really want to get back to is is the question at times right there was some epic battles at that time and there are some races that you go back and watch and you're like man i wish it was like that every week and then there's other races that that are not talked about anymore and for good reason because there was nothing exciting about it right it got strung out uh it was hard to pass at time so we have a way of remembering the the highlights i would say in a lot of those scenarios and it's not always the case now that the next problem is we have

have very smart people in our sport, extremely smart people. I don't claim to be one of them, but we have others that work on a race cars that have figured out how to, I got a guy. But they figured out that the race cars back then, you know, they were eight inches off the ground in the nose, right? And, you know, they didn't look as sporty, but it put on some great race. And we've learned since then you seal the cars off to the racetrack. It makes insane amount of downforce, makes more speed. And ultimately, sometimes it doesn't make the race. better, but it's faster.

You can't tell our people now that, hey, we want it to look more like this. So why don't you just raise the car up and make it look like it did back in the night? We can't unlearn what we've gotten to. Yeah. As modern racers, does it ever get frustrating hearing about like the prime of NASCAR in that late 90s or the early 2000s? Like you're racing here in 2026 and you guys are putting a great product out there.

When you go to the races, you're like, this is amazing to watch. But then there's still these, like back in my day type people that are kind of pressing on like well back then it was more like it was better because of X, Y and Z. Yeah. So it, you know, as time goes on, everybody else is going to be talking about their good times, right? And I think for for me is I want natural rivalries to come back and something to where it's not, I don't know, just a little pure.

And I feel like much like Steve has said, we're heading back in that direction more raw. And I think that's what sells, to be honest with you. I think seeing the things that as a race fan with Shane and Austin Hill and Zane and Carson Host of R and the list goes on, letting it naturally play out is what's exciting. And then we have the race. Trying to manufacture it. Correct. Yeah.

People are sniff out. What is interesting, though, so sitting with Jeff Gordon yesterday, and I know there's like documentaries and stuff on some of these old rivalries as well. But it did feel like when Jeff's in here recounting a lot of stuff, he wish he had been in on Earnhardt's brain because Earnhardt is manufacturing some of it and fans are manufacturing some of it toward it is a little bit more theatrical.

Whereas the rivalry is true, the competitive nature, as far as disliking each other, it didn't seem like that was necessarily there. And Jeff being young and knowing that Dale might be on the mic before he gets on and be like, oh, what are we going to celebrate? We're going to celebrate with milk with this guy instead of beer, the American Way,

all that kind of stuff, to where some of it did seem a little manufactured. and playing into it. Does that even make sense? Am I making any sense? No, yeah, you're making sense. It felt like it was organic, but a lot of it was fan-based-centric.

And Dale's like, Dale had a brain of thinking more business savvy to her. Jeff wasn't necessarily in on it. And he's like, I wish I kind of would have known because it would boil his blood. And he just knew that Dale's just like getting under his skin a little bit. Yeah, but that's the authenticity. You can't have everybody in on what you're trying to do.

Yeah. People are going to try to manufacture a little bit more. Yeah. You always have one guy kind of pushing the cart forward. of the chaos and the rivalries and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. So it's interesting. Like the natural robbery is like,

it is like fascinating. And it's something that we talk about so much on this show is we need to get to that, like the WWE style UFC where guys are a little more open about saying something, a little more pushing and shoving in like a, I don't want to say like tasteful way because it's very difficult to be tasteful in a fight. But just like adding that kind of like, oh shit, I wonder what's going to happen next week or this next episode that's going to take place in the reality TV.

of NASCAR also. What do you guys have in football? Do you have anything like that? There's rivalries in the sense that like I play for the Titans my whole career. So like AFC South is your rivals. Like you have the Colts, the Texans and the Jaguars as well. And then you internally will have battles with people and sometimes they'll be public. Sometimes it won't be public.

Yeah. But there's so many games taking place every single week that there's always going to be something to grab and pull in these. Oh, Jalen Ramsey and O'Dell got into it and look at how viral this situation is. That's happening on the West Coast. And on the East Coast, there's like five more things happening. For you guys, it's all one isolated event taking place on Sunday. Individuals.

Individuals. And it's like, I'm not going to like turn off this NASCAR event to go turn on that NASCAR event. It's like, we can watch these three, four hours of you guys racing right now. And that's it. So it's much easier for the NFL to go pluck with 16 games going on on a Sunday afternoon. Yeah, you kind of get drafted or recruited or whatever into the robbery that's already existing. Right. When it comes to team dynamic to where it might.

be take Titans and Jaguars to where you you get drafted there and you kind of know this is the team you got to take this the team that fans love to hate again so you might just play up your own little theater in your head about making it that much more of our Michigan Ohio State when a kid comes there from California they might know about the rivalry but you don't really understand until you're in those buildings it's like this is the fucking game we got to win this is the order just elevates whether it's your personality or your style of play or the team style of play feeding off of your fan basis. So was your matchups, though, did you ever end up building a rivalry, somebody who you were

going to be matched up with for a game? Yeah. I mean, especially for my position, he was different because he's like in the center of the defense. He's kind of controlling where everybody's going. And then he's reacting and playing off that. I was left tackle. So I was stationed.

I'm going to be the same place every single time. And a lot of teams would just have one D.N that would go against me. So it's like there's multiple games happening in one game. So yeah, for me, it was very easy to have isolated, go back and forth. we have a rivalry taking place. This is a corner that he and I got into it. But every time is where you play the same team twice in three weeks. And so this,

it would be like it would become bigger in your head. And based on the media market what happened the week prior, that would be a bigger deal. But going back to Will, like when you get to college, I grew up in Arizona. And Arizona is one of the most fair weather fans, sports dates you'll ever be in your life.

Like they, unless their teams are good, they're kind of like, yeah, sports are going on, but they're kind of all outside. So when I go to Michigan, I am learning firsthand. I'm drinking the Kool-Aid of Michigan and Ohio State. This is the game, the biggest rivalry in sports.

But it's fed to you from the minute you walk in the building until you essentially graduate. When you get drafted in the NFL, it's like we have jobs to do. Like the guys have families. I'm getting in there. I'm 21 years old when I get drafted. And I got the guy in front of me is 35 years old. And he's got two kids. And they kind of do their thing and they go home.

So it's much harder to like talk. things like this to take place. You have to take it upon yourself. And that's that's kind of what I decided to do in the situation. Yeah. So how personal does it get for you guys in this, in this situation? Like does it get left on the field or does it go beyond that? I mean, do you want to speak to that or do you want to? Me personally, I never had any that were like beyond the field. Like if you're, you're getting in any situations, you just, you're almost feeding off of the team and the people around you. So when the game ends, it's over. Yeah. Okay.

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Listen to Podlandia. Ayo rewatch on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Definitely irritate, guys. So I could see there was multiple accounts Even my teammates were like no fuck this guy Like this guy sucks And but for me it was like I enjoyed like getting under people's skin

Having them kind of hate me a little bit And then after the game they did a good job There was a I mean there's probably a dozen football players out there That think I'm gay because I would say crazy shit to him And it's just yeah and after the game they'd be like Are you? I'm not but I was in your head for four quarters one night Yeah, kind of get him going So yeah and I feel like in an

in the individualized the Jeffrey star in an individualized sport it's almost like trying to take pages from UFC fighters or the WWE where you're having to sell the fight

you're having to sell yourself so you're having to do things where you're engaging with the fan base getting the fan base going then almost speaking to the fan base or acting on behalf of the fan base more than I actually do hate this guy because you're just trying to forward think

on how where some of the manufacturing would play a little bit of a factor in the individual sports, right? Unless you're just so dominant, it's like, again, you think of like Earnhard or Jeff Gordon, I'm kind of talking out of my ass because it's not like I was a NASCAR sicko. But guys who were so dominant

to our fan base kind of just gets created. Yeah. When you were younger trying to come up and trying to break through it, there is a part of you that's got to, it's got to do something that would cut through to build your own little, to build your astronaut,

like capitalizing on moments. Yeah. That kind of builds your personality because you don't have some. that you're getting drafted into per se. Yeah. Unless you're part of you get signed with RFK or Hendrik, Hendricks the big name that kind of comes across.

When you're for them, they kind of have a baked in, they kind of have the baked in fan base, so where then you, you know how to leverage yourself with your fan base to go after another team. Yeah. There's a whole different game to be played.

Yeah. So ours is totally different. Yeah. I feel like a lot of ours, we don't talk a lot of shit to each other. Yeah. Because talking a lot of shit can end up having you get wrecked. Right.

And you don't get to banter during, right it becomes physical with race cars which doesn't just affect you versus another driver it's your entire team yeah right if you cut a tire down just because you're bantering back and forth you're you're going to ruin your day essentially there's definitely got to be a fine line to be played there because just having steve on him talking about how you guys as individuals like your brands are what also keeps the ship of NASCAR especially the day in age we live in now you said like i don't even know what you tweet at or do whatever twitter it's like that is a huge machine now that you guys can use

to your advantage to get paid more money to have people more interested, all those things. So it's like an untapped world kind of taking place. In a world that's more like, hey, we're not about the bullshit. We're about racing. We're about all this. So it's like an interesting world. You guys kind of have to...

Yeah. It is colliding whether you like it or not. And there's just so much more parody in your guys's sport. Like if you, you know, again, if you're speaking toward like a fighter, UFC fighter, and you know you're dominant as fuck. Like everything in between the match, the pre, the build up, the post. You kind of talk your shit however you believe it's your confidence level.

There's almost an element in racing to where the times to do it would be in between races or you're on the podcast or you're doing the things to where you can build it up any way you want. But there's also such a risk factor because there is so much parody to where if you don't show up, it's a full bet on yourself. And there's so much more parody in your guys's field to where I kind of seem obnoxious if I would talk a little shit right here. Whereas if you're the champion of the world and you know it's just one-on-one. one and like yeah this dude isn't gonna he's not gonna mess with my stuff you're gonna be able to build

it up and promote it the way you want to it's fair yeah for sure we kind of just cooked right there in our little brainstorm i feel like we did possible i feel like we're out there it's really just for the audience the palace man do you guys ever get nervous um racing like i i feel like every race i talk to is like no when i get to race day it's just like yeah we'll go race i'll find out how competitive i am in the first lap you know the only time i've ever been nervous was actually because you're going to talk about this in a second is the Crown Vicks when Chris, Brad, myself, Cletus, and we're out at Talladega. And this is all during Brad's recovery.

And we're going 160 miles an hour in a Crown Vic at Talladega. And I remember we were hitting the nitrous buttons down the straightaway to go as fast as we can. And I'm sitting here thinking like, because Brad's leading the pack. I'm like, we're going to kill our team owner here. Like this is the wildest thing I've ever done in my life. Have you ever been in a Crown Vic? I've been in a Crown Vick

Not going to 160 a night No No Hold on hold on Hold on Front seat or back seat It's very important Once in a back seat

I'll be honest about that But you know Mostly passenger princess With a cream vicks Which is nice Yeah that's gotta be terrifying because there's got to be A level of safety

You've like all right I got the nets I got the fire suit on I feel good I'm not just regular seatbelt I'm clicked in here These crown vicks Are just raw dogging correct

Like my man No I mean They're safe-ish There's a kid I don't feel like you're safe at all. But my man, like, you're going 140, 150 miles an hour at Talladega in a, quote, pretty much a stock Crown Vic that just has a cage in it and a bottle of nitrous. And this is, this is Cletus is set up, correct?

Yes. So Cletus does this every single year. Travis Pistrona was telling, is this what he was telling us about? Yep. You say we need to come out and do it and I think in my head like, yeah. Y'all need to do it. Yeah, it sounds terrifying. Like if you're talking about it as a racer, Crown Vic Nitrous.

Well, it's a lot of fun. It's like the adult version of a go-kart, right? So when you go to a go-car track and it's got a six and a half horsepower engine on it and you're driving around, yeah, it's fun. But driving around a 4,000-pound missile, as Cletus calls it, around a race track is the most fun you'll ever have as a race car driver. How about it? How about it?

Trying not to have that happen. Yeah, we avoided that in this particular instance. Like, would you do that? Would you tandem? What does tandem mean? Are we on a bicycle? Pushing like this. Okay, got you.

Yeah, I mean, I guess. I don't know what I don't know. I guess is the answer. Like, I feel I would feel most comfortable being the pusher. Because as a raw driver. Tandum is when you lock. If I'm out there, someone's just on my back in, like, hey, buddy, come on.

Shake and back. I'll just let you pass. There was shaking back in that moment. There was definitely shaking. It was, uh, that was just the wildest thing you could ever do as a race car driver. If someone gave me like three or four days with a, professional and was like this is how you should do X, Y, and Z. This is how you, you know, push somebody, draft, all the of that. And I got just a quick general studies degree on it. I think I'd have a lot

more fun doing it. But if you're like, hey, just show up here. I think it's November 13th this year and go race Talladega and Crown Vix. You know, I don't know if that foot is hitting the ground, if you know what I mean, when it comes to the gas at first. Oh, yeah. Unless you're just by yourself and you just hit the straight away. The boys are either up front or you happen to be leading. It's like, all right, let's just open her up a little bit. And that's kind of how it was when we showed up to Taldaiga and they were like, oh yeah, you're going to go out on the racetrack and Crown Vicks with Cletus and all this. When we pulled off pit road, I'm like, I don't drive these things all the time. I don't know how they're going to feel. So we pull off pit road. We're

getting up the speed and all of a sudden I see Chris's head fly back because Cleetus just came and absolutely bumped-drapped the hell out of them. And I'm talking like, probably would have set airbags off if they'd have been hooked up. No way. Yeah. It was a gnaw inside of it. So it's a cage, NOS and then the rest of it's stock. That's it. How many laps are you all hitting? It was really, probably did what, 20 or 25? We overheated a car every

four or five laps. Oh, no shit. Yeah. From pushing a little too tight, not getting any air to it. And how long is this? So you guys are all just looks like we were trying to, like the Blue Angels right there. And there's a speed effort right here. That's a team effort.

Yeah. It looks like the one in the backs kind of lacking it up a little bit. Well, come on. I was working on it. That's you. You're just kind of behind I mean I'm trying to push I'm trying not to push on corner entry

For one which is about where this is filmed See you just saying you're going to corner entry I'm thinking okay Well that I wouldn't even know that So we want to connect on corner on exit And everyone be as straight as possible Hit bumpers and hold on right Hit the nitrous and

Tandum I guess it's I don't know what's called for Quantum Yeah quantum that's a real word I didn't graduate Don't look into it And you just, you try and get that straightaway speed, right. You get to the corner, you cannot, you cannot go as fast in point because you are scrubbing speed out.

And it is a little sketchier at that point. It's a lot sketchy. But it's a blast. It's a great time. Oh my God. You want to know what? So I just did, uh, I did a race in, in New England on this past Friday. And it was a Crown Vic race with, with all those guys like Cleas McFarland.

He's got all his buddies and, uh, Vaughn getton, who's a professional drifter. and the list goes on and we were doing this race and you're just out there you're hitting your nitrous button you're sliding into each other you're hitting each other for normal people that's not exciting

for a race car driver where we aren't supposed to like absolutely harpoon and when I say harpoon I mean like punt people bump them where you can just go out and have free rain and do that

and not get in trouble it's great a lot of fun that's a little kidding you when you're hitting the go cards and you want to kind of wreck each other. Yeah. It's like our version of a Sunday cruise, right?

Like, it's not as competitive. Like, you're still going to compete, but it's almost easy. You're going so slow. I haven't actually done the race yet, but. Yeah. It's what it seems like. It's just fun, right? You get to play around and get to move around.

And it almost, you almost feel like you're cheating because you're a little bit more qualified than others around you there. Yeah. Give me a little breakdown on this Cletus McFarlane fellow because when we started this, I had like 10 friends reach out to me, like, you got to get Cletus McFarland on, this guy who, His YouTube channel is incredible. I wasn't savvy to his game,

but what was this guy's come up? How close are we with this cleatist guy? So I've just gotten to do some of these events with him, but I can appreciate his story of how he started to where his channel has grown. And I was a big fan of 1320 video, which is a car street racing YouTube channel. And so he was a videographer on there.

And he, on one episode, there was a there was a there was a he ended up doing his own little joking skit and that's how Cletus McFarland was born and and that's how his channel ended up happening. So he could obviously go way more into detail on his own story but I can appreciate it and it's just it's absolutely wild to see

what it was to what it is now. And so yeah. Seems like a fun dude to be around too. It's wild. They're all a bunch of great people. Sounds like he's kind of like the modern day Nitro circus Travastrona crew. They're always like kind of doing unique and fun things.

And don't they have like insane gifts or like whoever wins? Like somebody got a jet or something like that in these races? Yeah, actually. So when I won one of them and I got this like this massive boxo tools like if you're a car guy and you want

you know, wrenches, everything you need from a tools, all the tools and then a box like I want all this great stuff. Yeah. Would you consider yourself more of like a tool guy or more of an animal guy? I'm a tool guy. My wife's an animal,

animal, animal gal. Yeah. You got a zoo, yeah. I have a freeloader farm. Free loader farm is an elite name. It is an elite name.

So congrats on that. Thanks. How many animals do we have now? A lot. I don't know how many. My favorite's a donkey. His name's lucky, but he's not lucky.

All right. Yeah, so there's lucky. Yeah, we got, we have four horses, a pony. a mini horse, a few ducks, had a turkey, had to put it down.

Damn. I have a pit bull. He's the best dog in the world. Actually, Emma, his wife, is the reason that we found my dog. Really? Yeah, when we were first teammates. Yeah, she's,

she has a habit. If anybody mentions they even think they want a dog, she will make it happen almost instantly. It's kind of how my wife is too. So, be warned there. And, yeah, so. So you got to. What happened with the turkey?

Was it just, was it November? Old. Thanksgiving. Yeah. Yeah. It was a boy. Damn. Yeah.

Yeah. But it was just, it couldn't stand up anymore and, you know, trying to talk in North Carolina. And it wasn't doing well. So, yeah, that was, that was it. Did you cry? No. Okay. Well, yes, I did.

You just put the shot. I'm sensitive. Yeah, good. Just usually put the shotgun up. I was like, it's time. What was his name, govler? No, lurky. Lurkey.

Lurkey to Turkey. Lurkey, Turkey. Lurkey, Turkey. I like that. Which one's your. your least favorite? Choose your words carefully. Yep.

So I have like 10 animals at my house too. We have a little farm kind of like this. Not really like. Do you have horses? Dude, I have horses in Arizona. And every single day I'm like, when are we going to sell these horses? Yeah.

I grew up on a ranch. And so I just, I watch too many people just think they're going to make a bunch of money on horses and then lose their ass on it. And so my wife, yeah, exactly. So my wife's like, she wanted to get horses. And I'm like, hey, listen.

I'm telling you she's like, no, you get this one, and then you breed it, and it wins a raining thing, and then did that. I promise, we're going to make our money back. They do. They do. They do. And hey, I don't know if you had this experience, but, dude, horse people. Just growing up, like, horse people are some of the slightest of hand people you'll meet. They're a little skeevy, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. So it's just a snake oil. Yeah, there's snake oil. Everything's this. It's always something. And then all of, then you had a horse who's, you know, cow licking and has a bunch of issues. Oh, what the fuck is going on here? But anyway, your least-fired animal.

Summer? The ones, yeah, summer, because that's the one that breaks all the fence posts. That's summer right there. All the boards. Yeah. I hate... You got that crazy look, too. Yeah, he's checking out of that camera.

It's crazy. Oh, yeah, she's crazy. Do you ride it all or you just got it? Not really. I probably rode like three or four times. Yeah. Not, not for me. Yeah.

You know, I enjoy it. I love that it makes my wife happy, but... Yeah. Great for family photos. Because they have a mind of their own. right? As a race car driver, I'm in control of that race car. As much as you think you're in control of that animal, you're not. It's 1,200 pounds. Like, it's going to do what it wants with you. Yeah, it's just going to decide when you're done riding it. Yeah. Oh, there's lurky. Don't look,

don't look. RIP. If you could have one animal to add to your farm, what animal would it be? Oh, probably cow. Mini cow. I like me cows. Yeah. Island cows kind of rip, huh? Uh-huh. God. What's the deal with the mini cow? This is just a mini cat, but pull up Highland Cow. Yeah. They got that. They got that, they got that, where are you?

Look, to them. Uh-huh. They're awesome. They just look so cool. Yeah, they got to get a little fur to them. If Chris Boucher was an animal, I would expect him to be a Highland cow. You know what I mean? Just that orange one in the middle.

He's going to chill. Yeah. Because, you know, yeah. Yeah, you can get you short. The Highland Cow is ripped, dude. I just, for me, it's the responsibility of animals. I'm like, I like, I like, I like, I like animals, but I'm kind of getting over having animals.

Really? Yeah, dude, it's just too much. Yeah. Chickens, goats, bunnies, dogs. Bodies. Yeah, we got bunnies. How many? Just two.

Just two. Did it start off that way? Yeah, no, it was like, I think it was my daughter's, like, fifth birthday or something like that, my oldest daughter. And we did like a little, this, I think it was called Ginger Farms, Chris. And they came in and they brought a bunch of like petting, like a bunch of animals. And a couple of them, they're like, yeah, we're kind of actually looking for them to find homes. You can have two for free. And I'm like, no.

Yeah. My wife's like, yes. So then we had two. Yep. Try to get a couple more. They didn't make it. RIP, but these two do, they just keep living. Yeah.

Just keep doing their thing. I have a every winter I'm thinking maybe, every summer I'm thinking maybe they just are resilient creatures, dude. So there's a similar story actually. So my wife at Christmas goes, like we're standing there. We're talking. All of a sudden, she's looking at her phone. She goes, uh-oh, looks at her mother. And I'm like, what do you mean?

Uh-oh. She's like, well, I put in this application for this guinea pig that needed to be adopt. and our application got accepted. And I said, huh, okay. So we're just going to do these things without asking each other now. Next thing I knew, I had a race car. She wasn't impressed. What a crazy.

Yeah, this goes back to the prank. You just took it five times too far. She gets a guinea pig. She gets a $2.60 an animal from PetSmart. And you're like, I'm going to buy a race car. That's it. That's exactly. And now we're even.

She wasn't impressed. You know what happens to that race car if you don't feed it or go out and look at it for three weeks at a time. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Little dust. Little dust. We can handle that.

A little charger on that thing, call it a day. No problem. Fire right up. Guinea pig, dude, you look at it the wrong way that things have a little seizure. Yeah. Falling apart. Yeah. I have a pig out in Nebraska.

Yeah, Earl. Earl. Earl. He does. He does. He does. He does. Some heartbreaking stuff happened this weekend.

I'll let you have the floor on that. Oh, it doesn't necessarily. And so this family reached out. They're Husker fans. And they were asking if I could donate so their kid could get. a pig out of Nebraska. He just wanted to raise it, like, take it to some fairs and stuff like that.

And, you know, me and Jared were just kind of chuckling and I'm like, dude, let's give him some money to go get his pig. And they've just, I'm just thinking I'm giving him money to go get a pig. And they've updated us without us, as in she's updated us the whole time. And apparently Earl, I was like,

I'll get the pig if you name him Earl. I want to see I gave a few different options for naming the pig and they're like, we'll name him Earl. So they buy this pig, Earl, who doesn't come from apparently, what do they call it, generational, generational show pigs? He does or does not? Earl doesn't come from generational show pig, a generational show pig family. He comes from the mud.

So they get Earl, we beef him up a little bit, get him on the PEDs, now I'm making that up. But he goes and does a fair out in Nebraska this weekend. He got fourth in his weight class. They beef him up to like 250 plus pounds. And so I got a pig somewhere out in Nebraska, an investment pig. I'm like an angel investor for these kids. but he's out there having fun raising his pig and showing it in Fares. And I've grown to kind of,

they update us with photos and I've kind of just grown to kind of love the pig. He's not mine. I don't got to take care of him. I hope he does well. And people are like, oh, no, they're probably going to. So,

yeah, what happens at the end? I don't know. I'm hoping that he doesn't become bacon. If they do send us some. I think he can be your pet when they're done showing. When he gets too big, I think you can just keep a 400 pound pig.

I think the kids bought in. Like, that's his boy. Like Earl's his boy. And so I hope Earl lives a long. life. You know what we should do. We should double down and go get the best pig.

So this boy can win his thing. He can go get first place. I don't even know what they do in these fairs. I don't know if they do like pig drills or something to show them off. You never seen. Oh, yeah. Was it Charlotte's Webb? I mean, a long time ago several times.

They kind of get him. They get them all. They do, you know, they think I'm not to fairs and stuff like that. And you got to grease them up, make them look nice. The Towed Egg of Nights of the Pig Show world. There's an untapped potential here. Dude, I had a pig in college. His name was Dr. Hamleth the third.

And he did, he was, I didn't do good with the hooves. He was confined to this little carpet space. He got very aggressive and territorial. And he would burrow into this blanket. It's just pigs are kind of high maintenance. Yeah, I have, again, you know, your boy, I'm hands off. But I get these updates. I mean, look at this update.

Results from the show, fourth in his weight class for market, borrowers. Is it borrows, barrows? Barrows. Barrow. Barrow and came out with the blue ribbon. In showmanship, they only ranked the top person. Unfortunately, he didn't get that rank.

he fought to the very end. And that's all I needed to know that, y'all, I'm glad this pig. This pig seems like he's in good hands with a good team. He went up against lifetime generational show pick families. We are so proud of Earl and Skyler. It was a battle and they fought for it.

Now to look forward to next year. See, all I'm here and there is we got to take down those generational families. Yeah, like bustling with the boys, he needs to get in the pig. Yeah, Earl's not, he's not a privileged pig. Maybe you guys want to jump in as well.

Do you think Chatsy PT wrote that press release That was a pretty good one. It was a good one. Fought to the very end, man. I don't even know how they fight to the very end. Probably that kind of makes it sound like Earl's no longer with us. It was a good season. Look at this.

That is a bastard right there. That looks like the shoulders of Kirk Herb Street's golden retriever. Look at the handlers too, how focused they are and dialed in. Oh, my. Look at that thing. Would you guys be interested in investing in a pig with us? Somebody was walking out driver intros like that. I'd just feel like you win.

Game over. Yeah. So I get a pig named an astronaut. I know too much about this world. That's right. Oh, you know a lot about this world. Yes.

What happened? So tell us the end story for Earl. I have a very good friend whose kids showed pigs and did extremely well. And I just want to point out that if you want to invest and you want to take home top prize,

you're going to invest. Oh shit, for real? Uh-huh. I thought it would be like maybe a 5K each kind of thing. No, no, no, no. This is a six-figure pig? There's a good chance, yes. Really? So we're talking generational showbook. So if y'all want to invest, don't, don't throw my name into the hat on it. You're out on that. Yeah. So the fourth place seems like a good, the blue rim is like a good deal. If that was a $5,000, right. No, no, it was like,

I don't even know what I want to say like in the hundreds. Oh my God. It was like, it was like, five hundred dollars. Yeah, he's, but Earl's clearly like doing way better than anybody expected him to. When he came out of the pig loom, he's undrafted, man. Yeah, he's undrauded. He's a neck up type of pig.

Yeah. A neck up type of pig, man. They have six figures sunk into these pigs. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What do they win, though? Like, what do you win? I win some trailers, some, uh,

you get some money out of it, get a couple grand here or there. And then you like, what breed the pig or sell the sperm and stuff? It sounds like, it's a similar horse community. I was going to say, you're not going to be a,

there's probably some tie in there. And then for, for the kids, it's, a lot of career opportunities or schooling opportunities come out of it. I mean, the size of these pigs, the Earl's way behind.

Those are monsters. Yeah, that's the cream of the crop right there. Those are six-figure picks. That's big money walking around there. A lot. If you guys could invest in one unique thing, what would it be? Like, what's something that you're like,

it would be fun to, like, we're talking about a pig right now. Do you want to invest in maybe a buddy restaurant or maybe your own racing team someday? NASA? NASA. We'd change it to Ryan, just like my hats. Yeah, there you go. You know what I mean? I don't know. What do you think? You go first. Let me think.

Yeah, I don't have a good answer. So you said there's no bad ideas, but I've been warned about the restaurant business. And I will say, I've watched Brad run around and try to stay afloat, trying to own a race team. And I have zero desired to own a race team. You just want to be town, baby. I just want to show up and put my helmet on and go race and not worry about the day-to-day stuff because that looks stressful amongst other things. So, yeah, on the investment side of things, we got to – it would not be in racing, I guess, yeah. I'd go build hot rods. I think that would be kind of back to roots and something that Dad would be in on as well. I was expecting you to say like construction company because you're always in your skid steer

riding around your property digging something out or clearing brush and all I was digging rocks up and mowing all day yesterday. That's what I mean like just stuff like that. I already have so like racing wise I have my own little short track team with my father and so we have all the equipment for that. But you know I've I've joked about maybe having like like those 25 yard container where you could, you know, pick them up, drop them off to people's houses.

They could dump all their junk in there and then, and then, you know, be the guy that has like 10 or 15 of those. So that would be kind of cool. Dude. What do we call it?

Kind of cool is different. Sounds very lucrative. Yeah, that too. I've got a design. Like things that make money. Yeah. You already have a pink dully.

You do. I mean, you just, just roll it right into the dumpsters. Butterfly dumpsters. Yeah. I don't know. Butterfly collections.

Butterfly title. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's not on that. What's been the worst purchase you guys have made? The worst purchase? The worst purchase.

The worst purchase you guys have made. Worst purchase or the worst financial decision? Go ahead. Yeah, let's do both. Well, my first vehicle, after my first, my first, I guess, real contract racing, I went and bought a, went and bought an 08 F250. And I have blown that thing up four times. I continue to throw money at it, rebuild it.

and blow it up again. I have not done the engine work myself, so I know that sounds like I'm not mechanically inclined. I am just really hard on stuff as well, but I am six figures into a vehicle that's worth maybe $18,000 a day. Yeah. I feel like that's a normal story for a racer, man.

Every bad decision for us is cars. So mine was I had a 2013 Mustang that had first contracting cup. I said, oh man, I have 120,000 miles on this thing because I would drive it up and down East Coast. I'm going to pull it out and put a motor in it. Well, that motor turned into, all right, I'm going to put turbos on it. And then it turned into a wide body. And I probably, same thing as you,

I was north of like 120,000 into this Mustang. That wasn't worth anything. And I didn't even sell it. I ended up just parting out parts and then, you know, scrapping the chassis. No shit. Yeah. I parked mine in the field for three years when it blew up the last time.

Yeah. I was so sick of it, but I couldn't come to part with it. So it just, it was housing for the local rodents. Yeah, local rodents. Did you get any questions, buddy? I'm good. Nothing for you. Jackie boy?

No. Other Jackie boy? Yeah, I was going to say, you got to ask, you got to ask Jack over here. Yeah, our producer. He's usually got one that comes in. From the stumped them. Oh, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. What's one thing that Steve?

O'Donnell could be better at his job at. There you go, Jack, the hard-hitting one. It's a great question. Ryan? I honestly think Steve O'Donnell does a great job. I'm a huge fan of everything that we've been doing, and I appreciate the flight out here today. There you go.

Great answer. Chris, Cumb and Haymaker. Good cut back up. I think he should change his name to Steve O. Yeah. And just come on a little nickname, so if we can just put that on all the name tags and just commit to that. That'd be fun.

Steveo's a good name. So, Steveo, the CEO. Steveo, the CEO. Steveo, the CEO. That should be his Twitter handle. That should be his Twitter handle. Steve, do you hear that?

Good. He's not listening. Steve? Yeah. Oh, he left? He's on the plane already. Yeah. Oh, is he?

Oh, there you go. You can say. You give you real answer now. Real answer. No, honestly, I've liked the whole brand that we went into this year with the whole, you know, hell yeah thing. So I don't I'm just a fan of racing. Like I love everything about what it is,

rivalries, the pureness of it. And I feel like we we as a group, much like Steve was talking about communication with the drivers, feel like that's better than it's ever been. So or at least where I'm standing. Because years and years ago, you know, I didn't live the Dale Earnhardt, Jeff Gordon era. But do you know who Mike Helton is?

No. You ever heard of him? Yeah. Mitch has. Yeah, so Mike Helton was like the guy, right? And he was the guy that if you did something wrong, you'd go in the trailer and he'd cussed, you know, he'd let you know it. Yeah.

And, but there was a mutual respect of understanding, hey, we're here to race, but we're here to put on a show. And I feel like we're closer than ever to being at that. That's awesome. Yeah. This is right here. What a mustache on the guy. That guy.

Oh, you'd hate to go in his trailer after the race. Yeah. There's a Reddit page Mike Helton without his mustache. That's how few people have seen him without that. Well, fellas, dude, we appreciate you coming on the show. Loved it, enjoyed it. Let's give a round of applause for the boys one more time, please. Thank you for being a part of Erasing with the Boys.

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