Bussin' With The Boys - Ryan Whitney

Episode Date: March 2, 2022

Recorded February 25, 2022 | One day before the NHL Stadium Series, Spittin' Chiclets host Ryan Whitney jumps on the bus and gives up arguable one of our best episodes ever. We will let you be the judge of that. Start pod (0:00) Ryan Whitney interview starts (4:30) Why Ryan only drinks vodka and also why he is bad at fighting (5:45 - 17:00) Hockey is soft now (17:10 - 27:00) Balancing professional sports and podcasting, explaining NFL salary caps (29:45 - 45:15) Twitter ruining hockey (45:35 - 52:28) Insane Russian hockey league stories (54:00 - 1:04:20) Getting kicked out of his host family house at 16 years old & Biz fighting in hockey (1:06:20 - 1:21:26) Spittin Chicklet's and Bussin With The Boys origin story (1:25:28 - 2:03:45) Pink Whitney taste testing prank & rivalry with Dave (2:04:27 - 2:16:15) End pod (2:38:37) ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Cross Country Mortgage: Go To CCM.Com/Barstool so cross-country mortgage can take care of you through the buying process Paint Your Life: Text BOYS to 64-000 for 20% off and FREE SHIPPING. Paint Your Life Celebrate The Moments That Matter Most Roman: Go to www.roman.com/BUSSINBOYS To Get $15 Off Your First Order Of ED Treatment PiggyBack: Visit Piggybackcraftcocktail.com For More Info And Make Sure You Grab A Box In Select StoresFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I am your host, Will Compton. We have an electric factory of a podcast today. Ryan Whitney joins the bus. Obviously, me, Taylor, and Ryan, we're all on the bus. Ryan Whitney is the co-host of Spitting Chicklets. NHL legend, some say, some argue about. He was on the Olympic team, won a Stanley Cup, part of a lot of different stuff.

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I'm not going to lie. First half, they had me a little bit. But I bounced back in the second half. I kept, you know, I couldn't keep my composure. I think that's ultimately what happened. When you get to where you yell and try and, like, I went into their world. You know what I'm saying, JP?

And you were yelling. Instead of saying, staying Zay and, in. Like instead of being like, you know, letting it kind of roll off, like... But like you said, you gained your composure. Yeah. You got back on track. Yeah. And you succeeded.

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But yeah, man, so getting into the episode, Ryan Whitney... Oh, oh, I do have an announcement because I've been huge. You guys know the boy is huge on the Whistle Pig, piggyback, rice, smash cocktails, and it can. But I have a new number one, and it is now the, it's a blackberry lemon fizz.

The reason it went from number three to number one is I was tough on it in the beginning. The blackberry fizz, the blackberry lemon fizz, I was tough on it because I drank it kind of straight out of the box when they first sent it to it, so it was a little warm, a little cool, wasn't that good. I had them things iced out the other day at the baby shower, which that went tremendous, by the way.

We got showered with gifts, showered with piggyback rice mash, and it was a great time. Then we went and yugged some beers at the hockey game, me, Taylor and the boys. But, yeah, Blackberry Lemon Fizz is now my number one. Fresh ginger lime has now went to the two spots. Cintra Smith is sitting down there at the third spot. But obviously, we'll be shouting out what's to pick throughout the episode.

I just wanted to say that before we get into this. Now, Ryan Whitney, bust with the boys. Subscribe. Leave a live live live comment. Everybody in the chat right now, go leave a live live comment. Appreciate y'all boys, big hugs, tiny kisses. Hey, so go ahead. What were you just saying about Whistlepig,

right whiskey? So my brother gave me a bottle for my birthday, and I didn't, you know, I don't know a ton about whiskey, but I was like, oh, shit, and I love it. I love it. Did he get you the six-year?

He got me this exact bottle was my birthday yet. Bro, they got a 10 year as well, and this boss hog, which we haven't had yet. We got a lot of time to you guys at the boss-hog. I said, no, wait. Is that your own mixture? Just my little lickser.

Don't worry about this. It's a whistlepiggy lickser. That's an NFL drink right there. Yeah, no doubt. So I stay on my toes all day, man. This thing's kind of a hitter. So while we're going to try this, tell us what the deal is with these things. How'd that get started?

Do you want to wait for the party or you want to do it right now? We already start the pond. See those numbers running? I love that. That's how you know it's going. Pink Whitney was one in a million, but we can do a cheers right now. One and a billion, dude. Three commas.

I'll tell you what, I thought that was more of like a mixer drink. No. So a lot of people. That's true vodka to the head, bro. In my head, I was like, oh, mixer drink, gonna be delicious? A lot of people come up to me and said. Put that thing down like a fucking house, though, dude. That's what they've said.

I ended up, I ended up Boccol. I was blacked out one night. I thought it was a mixed drink. I'm like, no, dude, that's straight vodka. Now, granted, I think it's 30% as opposed to. So it's not straight. It's 30% instead of 40, right? Usually it's 40, but because of the flavor, they get the 30%.

But it's not mixed. It's not like a mixed drink. It's just straight up vodka. So it's just infused. Exactly. So how did it come alive? So it came alive because, we got sponsored by New Amsterdam

showed out New Amsterdam Valka became the presenting sponsor of our show which was a huge deal like you guys know it's like all right we're so big listen up to this yeah we're so big listen every episode every episode should be welcome to

you know busting with the boys busing with the boys present that's a crazy weird deal just now I know it what is it supposed to I know it was the boys on the boss I don't know we had a guy on here once I'm saying

busing in the boys and that's definitely like the road we're not trying to go down you know busing in the boys But it should be welcome to Bustin with the Boys presented by Whistlepig. So New Amsterdam was, they came on and they were, boom, every episode presented by New Amsterdam. And in the first episode, I've told this story a bunch, but I got new listeners here. Yeah, hell yeah, you did.

So many. They said, yeah, so many. Millions, millions. Bustin with the boys. I think we had like 42 million last podcast, last body. So they said, well, you just kind of all of you guys organically talk about your favorite vodka drinks just so that, you know, we're talking about New Amsterdam. am. And I don't remember the order, but R.A. said vodka, Red Bull or Biz said vodka soda. Grinelli said vodka on the rocks. And I just said, oh, since I've been drinking, I have been

drinking pink lemonade vodka. It's the best drink. I used to drink pink lemonade. It was 11 years old at the movies, like a little nerd. And then I just kept going and going. All of a sudden, I could start drink. I just mixed pink lemonade with the vodka. And, like, to everyone's surprise, we just started getting like tweet after tweet after tweet of I actually showed it out Newman's own pink lemonade. Paul Newman's got that. I said, that's the one I always mix it with. So people were sending me in New Amsterdam bottles with Newman's own. On and on and on and on.

We're biz, kind of like the business mind of our group. He said, we got to make a drink. We got to make a drink. We have to like, let's do this. I was like, dude, nobody's going to buy a drink, Pink Whitney. A couple people wrote, oh, it's Pink Whitney, Pink Whitney. I finally, it was Halloween. And we were driving with my.

With my wife, yeah, I was dressed up as a Starbucks barista, dude. Oh, you really? Barista, I looked unbelievable. That's a great pumpkin spice latte. Oh, buddy, I had the fro coming out. I was like, I'm a legit, I'm like a crazy, you know, those Starbucks baristas are kind of weird usually. I was one of those weirdos. Always spell the name wrong.

Yeah, and like maybe like one weird tattoo, like on the neck and the wrist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was telling my wife the whole story and the whole time I'm telling no, business, no, no, no one's going to buy a drink with my name on it. That's foolish. And then she said, well, why don't you try to make this drink? And I was like, oh, shit, if you're saying this and business saying this, I called them up. Next thing you know, he called Barstool, Erica hooked it up, and this happened. So it's like, it makes no sense.

It's crazy. It makes a lot of sense, actually. It really doesn't, though, because I'm an absolute joke, and now there's a drink with my name on. Hey, speaking of jokes, so I was typing in a, I'm typing in Ryan Whitney on YouTube. That is better hit. Bro, it was, it was. You see up a joke like. Speaking of jokes, I got a little one.

Three guys walking a car, right? The video on YouTube is just five minutes of Ryan Whitney being a clown on the ice. And it's just him getting smoked and getting in fighting. People always go at me. You said you didn't fight when we were talking outside earlier. I think I would say I had five career fights. Yeah. And I was probably one and four.

I did pound one guy. I won one fight. I won one fight. The rest of them, maybe a couple of them were ties. A couple of them were tough loss. But I won one and it was in the playoffs Easy win. There was one time clapping the sticks on the board. It's like they

He's a lefty. He's a lefty. But he hit Crosby and if anyone touched Crosby is like game on. It's not matter who it is. It's got to go. It could be you. I'd still have to go. I'd take a beat But Jesus Christ. They showed one one. Listen, I want to know what happened. Like do you tear the jersey over the guy's head or what? I ended up getting him down

Oh, this is this? Is this the five minute clip? I've seen this YouTube. It's just me. There's one. They go on a breakaway. I just, I'm in the way left of the picture right now. He's not even close to this guy. This guy's been trying to beat me up since 2000. Oh, bro. I'm not kidding. I open this video and this is the first thing I see. I'm down. He has the jersey over my head. You can't see my head. This guy had been chasing me around since we were both 18 years old. This was when we were 33. And he finally got me. Tim

Jackman. We actually got him on the pod one time. He always wanted to kill me. And in this game, he decided I'm going to kill this kid. I don't know where you weren't even in the frame there. So I passed the puck. I was backing up and I passed the puck and he's chasing me. And usually, you know, once I pass the puck, he's going to turn back up ice, this isn't good. Yeah, this isn't good. This is what it's like when you say bust with the boys wrong, right? Hey, this is what you're going to do to me when I say busting him in the boys.

Hey, whoa, totally. Another one he gets, I need to know more about this, dude, because you got that wobbly legs when you walked up. Oh, no. When you seen stars or what? I don't even remember that. All I remember is the fact that I. past the puck and most of the time the guy that's come in me, he's going to turn and head back up ice. Yeah.

No, instead, he kept coming. I'm like, oh, fucking next thing you know, I have my jersey over my head and he's punching my lights out. I'm like, what the hell just happened? And then I saw the video, I saw the picture. There's one still image that's like legendary in terms of like my life being legendary. I'm not very legendary. And it's a guy with a multi-million dollar bottle named bathroom. It's a tough pick.

It's a tough pick. What do you make tough pick? I might trade the vodka with my name on it to not have this picture on the internet. There is it. And my right hand, so I'm into golf. I love golf. I remember being like, oh, my God, he's going to step on my hand. And I lifted my hand up.

I can't put the thing up. Dude. That's a car. I got two boys. At some point I would say, boys, yeah, this is your old man right here getting his head punched in by Tim Jackman. Hey, there's a picture of me that I could probably go without too. But I don't have a bottle to give up.

Just me fucking conchied on the ground. No. Out. Body bagged, bro. Flopped out like flippers. Then he gets some cries. You crying? I started crying.

I got knocked out cold. Yeah, so you didn't. I had one concussion. Hey, that's when I told my ACL chill. That's it? No, no, not that. No, no, that's it on that one.

Oh, that's me right there. In the blue. Oh, would you get blocked or something? Yeah. I got asleep, dude, night night. So I had one concussion. I was younger. I think I was 15.

And I actually woke up crying. So I'm guessing maybe this. You didn't know, right? Did you kind of? Yeah, I came to it. I was bawling crime. It was a weird deal. I didn't know.

We threw an interception. I'm like trying to chase it down. I was back then about four years ago. I'm all about getting the tackles on an I&T. Get them stats up. Oh yeah. Yeah. Contract.

Oh, guys, a hustle guy through and through. So I'm chasing the thing and I'm looking. The ball's coming this way and I'm kind of like using the sideline to my advantage. Shut the fuck up, bro. He's already. You know. I'm using.

I'm in the meetings too with the defense in team meetings. So I'm using the fire line. He got a relax guy. I'm using the sideline. I'm like going back and this dude hits me and I like do the neck whip and then flop. I go to sleep and all of a sudden a big fight breaks out

between the dolphins and the Titans and I wake up and I'm kind of like also trying to fight but you don't know what's going on. I don't know. Yeah. Bambi. Exactly. And they're like, hey, Taylor, like it's fine. Like just sit down. I'm like, no. Like guys are fighting. I got to get in there.

And they're like, no, you got knocked out. And I was like, well, they're fighting because of you. Yeah, exactly. And I'm like, no, no, no. I didn't. And then I just start fucking bawling, crying. I go to sit on the bench and I'm crying. And our center, Ben Jones, comes up with, like, one of those

like hand towels and just, like, puts it over my head. Like, kind of leaves me alone. Like, hey, man, the camera's on you, bro. Exactly. And yeah, this is me getting up and, like, trying to, like, I'm out. Oh, that was you right there. Yeah, that was me right there. Oh, so you actually were, like, people wouldn't know if they were watching that you had no clue what's going. Oh, that's scary.

And then right up. And then what are we going? Oh. Not a big. really aware of where I was at that point. Yeah, but almost, almost in your mind you think it was, don't lay down, don't lay down, get up. Yeah, it must be. It must have been. It's like ingrained. Because I remember getting hit and I remember pot, like, then all of a sudden I was up.

How many games did you miss after that? One. I missed one. I missed one. I got put in a half a game. Yeah. Holy shit. What year was that? 2019. This is the longest game of NFL history. We played Miami. It was brutal. What, it went to live in a lot from what?

Two times. Well, wouldn't the longest game be a tie? No, because it was, there's so many, this is tough. But you're going to do the same thing to us with hockey in a second. So it's all good. I know, I don't know. So, like, wait a little bit of a tie? I mean, are you talking longest, like, on the clock in real life?

There was a storm. So it had just as long as the game can go. Oh, there was a storm. There was a storm. So, like, there kept being, like, lightning warnings or thunder lightning warnings. I guess it's just thunder is not a dangerous thing, but the lightning is the dangerous thing. So if it's within a certain mileage, of where we're playing,

we all have to go inside and they have to evacuate. I assume so. I don't really play. I don't really clap them. Really? If there's lightning in the air, you're back to the club of...

You don't see the hat? Oh shit. You like that thing? The flamingo. You're not a golfer. What do you... Put me on the course. He said the hat? Bro, people like that.

You have hands tattoos play golf. That isn't a golf thing. That's not true because you wear a glove. So it doesn't matter. You're not going to see my hand tattoos anyway. One of them. You wear a glove on one of them. No, not me.

I wear them on both of them. How long was the delay of that game? Nine hours. What? It was a noon game. I think we got home at like nine at night, right? Holy shit. Yeah, but the game wasn't nine hours, right?

Seven and a half hours. Thank you, Jack. I mean, I was there too. I was conking, dude. I was fine, man. We had another, like a... Taylor's just chilling in the locker room when he's, you know, when we had to get the storm. Are you begging to go back in that game?

Yeah, yeah, because I was like, oh, I'm good now. I'm fine. Yeah, I know. So I walk out during, like, the second or third, like, lightning warning. And some dude, I'm like, outside kind of looking around and some guys like you fucking bitch you're a fucking bitch 77 a fan a fan he's like three five rose up and i look at him and i'm like don't fucking sit i start crying again dude and delaney walker he got to him i got to that loser he comes grass and he's like what the fuck you doing i just like grabbing me like what are we doing buddy it was a tough gig tough life yeah shit man

and you're still doing it i got props to both you guys once a year holy shit i watch NFL every sunday I can't believe what you guys go through. It's insane. But it is in hockey, hockey, how many games do you play? 86 games. 82. 82 games? But it's just different.

Every single play, especially your job, it's just boom, boom, contact. It's like you can go a whole game in hockey without getting hit, especially now with how the games change. It's way less physical. I feel like football maybe is changing, maybe a little less physical now. Yeah, it's definitely changing from the 90s, 2000s. Exactly. Yeah. But hockey now, I mean, you get a penalty for hits now in hockey that.

would have been nothing, which I guess in football now you see some calls. You're like, wait a minute, that's roughing. Dude, they get ejected from the game. Yeah, that's what sucks. Some clean hits, too, you get ejected when I'm watching football. Yeah. And same with hockey, but. Do you think hockey's getting softer?

I do. I think it's gotten way softer. Now, do you think it's way softer or a little softer and you're like that generation? Well, I hate being a guy. There's that guy that says, I know. And these fucking guys don't care. They're soft now, this, that, and the other.

And the problem for me saying that is I wasn't, you know a tough player like that wasn't my game I was kind of more skilled and so for me to be like the guy yeah exactly he's a little flex I can pass the puck but I don't

I don't biz has zero skill Biz is the guy who could say it's a pussy game now because he was out there fighting he was out there going through that whereas if I were to be the guy like this game's so soft people would be like dude you weren't even hard when you played

you were one and four but in and still in the fact like that I witnessed hits that would now be like guys get suspended and then it wasn't even a penalty. I can say the game has gotten softer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And in a way, it's like, it's been good for the game because all this skill is shown now

and you see all these players that are, maybe wouldn't have been in the league before. They're so skillful, and you can see these amazing plays and highlights, but you do miss the old, like, everyone stands up in the arena for goals and fights, and there aren't that many fights anymore. Yeah, the fights are like my favorite thing as a fan watching.

If you go to a hockey game, And I've long said, I've been to three NFL games in person, two Steelers games when I was on the Penguins and a Patriots game. They lost like four home games in 20 years at the Patriots. One of them I was at. Yeah. But it's a made for TV game, I feel like football is, personally, with all the timeouts and the stoppages,

hockey's made to be seen in person. Hockey's so fucking awesome. You know, you go to a game, you're like, holy shit. And when you go to a game and see a fight, I mean, my mother-in-law goes, and she's not, she has no anything but hugs. She's like, oh, my God. She's standing up cheering for fights. So I wish there was more.

I also am happy guys aren't dealing with certain concussion issues, but fights are legit electric in hockey. Yeah, dude. We're still talking about fights. Before I forget this story, because I was wanting to say it earlier. But when you got like... You got your word count up.

Yeah, he got like his... Getting dummied right now. He got dead. Here we go. This guy's a fucking... My man gets... A fucking wagon, dude. This fucking guy.

He gets like duck-raped one play. What? Because he, like, bagtaps of Vetchkin. I got fined. I got fined. Were you trying to do that? No, I wasn't actually. I knew Russia was going to invade Ukraine 20 years later, so I speared him.

He missed his fucking, fucking hits him in the nuts, bro, drops them. Everybody rushes him and just duck rapes him. No shit. But luckily, I didn't actually get beat up. I didn't, nobody... I meant to kind of get my stick between his legs to try to, like, hold him from getting to the net. By accident, got him in the nuts.

Got fine. When I got the call from the disciplinary head, he said, at least you got the right guy. which I was like, oh shit. I'm like, if that made the news now, I mean, there was no Twitter then or anything. But they were not a fan. Yeah, right there.

It was totally by accident. Look, I'm like, oh, shit, somebody's going to dummy me right now. Star rookie Alexander Oveshkin got him right in the nuts. He was screaming, too. He's like, oh! What's he screaming for? Blet, blot.

Screaming Russian swear words. But I got $1,500 for that. Oh, here it goes. Which was like the max fine. But nothing happened there. And I didn't get kicked out of the game. Oh, your boys were there. Oh, my boys came in.

That's team game. Team game. Oh, somebody's got my jersey over my head. That was my issue. Somebody always got a jersey over my bucket. There's some tape on the back, dude. You had to put some tape like a hook or something. Look at him.

Dude, the tinted visor. Here's a big opposite in hockey for instead of hockey and NFL. If you have a visor in the NFL, that's like a saucy thing. That's a really dope, like, swaggy thing. You have to be a receiver, I feel like. No. No. Taylor.

You have one? And wear a tin advisor. Oh, dude, hey. I was just going to say no offensive linemen have that. Who fucking swigoo, my guy, dude? Try and wear like a little running back shoes. Every time I put a uniform on. I had so much drip.

Did you get something in the eye or do you just do it for the looks? Looks. 100% the looks. I love it. I love it. Put it up. The darky. Where's that thing at?

Wow. So I've actually, are you the only offensive linemen in the league that? No, it doesn't. Trent Williams. What? Only the stars. Only the stars. There's a, there's a, probably a handful of guys.

But anyway, the hockey thing, there's a bunch of guys that, well, now you have to wear visors all the time. That's a good drip right there. Where's going to show me? That one, yeah, that's legit. That's not even my darkest vizier either, my guy. That's because it was a day game. No, no, I'm all dark all the time. You got to go through like a big process to even get it.

It's a really hard process to get it. Yeah. Like I would try to go with 60 percenters, but sometimes you'll get fined if they'll get you off to switch mine at halftime or something. It's too dark. Yeah. Why would that affect, why would they care if it's, if the visors... You're concussed and they've got to see your eyes. Oh, no shit.

It's like a medical thing. Really? They come up on you and they can't see your eyes or nothing like that and they're trying to get like your mouthpiece out or some shit. I want it to be... I don't wear a mouthpiece, so it's all good. I never did either. Really?

Never did either, yeah. That was you were about to say? No, I was actually going to say that I think in the NHL, I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure that you can't have... There's a darkness thing for the tint as well because Ovechkin in the Olympics one year. he had the straight up like Oakley sunglasses where you see reflection in the visor. No shit.

But then it wasn't allowed in the NHL. Well, that video you just showed, he had a, like a smoked out visor. Yeah, like I don't, but that one's, that's, see, that's international play. That's his Russia uni. That's the one that is not allowed in the NHL. And that's an international tournament. This way he's the CCM covered in red tape at the front of the helmet. So that's not allowed an NHL play, which ironically, like, I don't know why.

Yeah, that's weird. But I guess it makes sense in terms of, like, medical why they want to see their eyes for concussions so Taylor's not crying during the game. Yeah. Or after or any, yeah, any in between. Really, anytime. Or when you watch it like a sort of sad commercial, I'm the same way. So why did they change the rule in the NHL to where you have to go from Bucket? Now you have to wear a visor.

I don't know. That was just kind of like as everything gets a little softer. It was I don't necessarily like disagree with it. I love not wearing a visor. I came into the league. So when I came into the league, if you had a visor on, you were a coward. That was just, that's what it was. And so you look at like Martin St. Louis, now the coach of the Canadians, but Hall of Fame player,

unbelievably, he's like 5'7, maybe even 5'6. He came into the NHL and like Calgary Flames let him go. He had nothing on his face. And because I think he knew, like, I can't do it. And so over time, like, Brian Barard was a player first overall pick. He lost his eye. there's been some issues where it's kind of like, all right, well, if you can still play at a high level with a visor on it protects your eyes, let's maybe make it a rule. But there's a few guys left to a grandfather and Ryan Getslfts, one in Anaheim.

I can't think of the others. But now if you come into the NHL, you got to wear a visor. And when I went to the AHL on the way down, as I got, you know, my career ended, I had to put one on. I was like, holy shit, this is bizarre. Same thing I went to play in Europe and Russia had to wear one. I got used to it, but I did love the fact. that I didn't have one for a long time. Yeah.

Because you just feel like, I actually remember being younger and going to NHL games and you know, you grow up with the cage and you're like, I can't wait to have nothing on. I want to make the NHL and just throw the helmet on. There's no cage. You got a button. Put it on. You're good.

I remember going out for games just being like old school. You're like, I'm playing. You're like, I'm playing. You're like the fucking man. Exactly. So that's changed amongst many other things. But I think in the end,

it's probably for the better because guys still fight with them on. Now, though, when I came to the league, you could, you'd square off with a guy, I never squared off, that was another thing. Of my five fights, they were all out of like something that happened in the game. You know, the real tough guys, like, biz,

he would square off. That's like the panic of like, I'm in a fight. But you used to just be able to take your helmet off. Say one guy at a visor on, you didn't, all right, let's both take them off so I don't hit your visor. Right. Now you can't take your helmet off before a fight. No, they've changed it. So like, you can't square off, take the helmet off, take the helmet off, and then go.

You take the helmet off, the refs come flying in. Stupid Yeah, it's a ridiculous. like the taunting rule in the NFL we talked about before. Are we on this podcast? Oh, the rules in the NFL are a fucking nightmare. You say as much as you want, we'll get fined. But you say as much as you want. The rest just control the end of the game now is just fucking crazy.

It's crazy. It's like we're watching good games and then you see these calls by these fools and it's like, and gambling on the games, I'm like, oh my God, what the fuck is going on? These idiots. Now, let me ask you two, why can't they be full-time employees? I don't know. I think that's- That is so dumb. That's where it's headed, I think.

The refs? Yeah, they're not, they have like, they're like lawyers and school teachers and shit. Yeah. Like, just make them refs. Like, that's your job. It's not their job. And there's got to be some sort of fitness that they have to, like, meet. Some sort of fitness requirement.

They're going to be able to run a mile in seven minutes, eight minutes, whatever it is. What did you say? Tice said, tell them about your combine. You got a ref combine idea? I wanted the rest to go, like, go through like a combine. Oh, yeah. They need to go through like a whole fitness test because there was a game in the playoffs. Dallas.

It was Dallas versus San Francisco. and Dallas ran a quarterback draw. Now, the play itself, probably an iffy call to do with that, like, only the game left yet. Yeah. But they ran, they put the ball down, and then they went to go snap it, but the ref has to touch the ball after it's a first down. So he has to go touch the ball. He grabs the ball, backs it up. But all that time he spent running from behind the play to there was like an ungodly amount of time

that they might have got one more playoff or clocked it and then had another playa situation where they go verts or I don't know shit about it. So the ref being a slob basically cost them. Well, I'm not going to say it because that guy's going to ref one of my games. Hey, but also. Hey, Dallas was sloppy. My hand goes, slop, huh? He's a busting with the boys, listening? I think everybody's a bustling with the boys listening.

That's how you got to fucking live. You know what I'm saying? Wait. Yeah, I do. I know what that should have. I am. I have to believe. Oh, shit.

You said you are now? I didn't know the name going in. I'll never miss an episode now. I promised one. Yeah, I really doubt that, but I appreciate it. I appreciate it starting now. It said you got awesome U.S. development, your U. middle school stories.

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M.B. No, that was almost a JP deal. We went deer hunting. We got two more. Pass this to our boys? We're good to do this with our boys? We went deer hunting. We're going after Yeager.

Cheers, guys. What are you hunting at? We're going after Yeager, deer hunting. We're trying to take them down. First time I ever threw up in my life was Yeager. Mm-hmm. First time I ever threw up was at that National Development Program

I drank a bottle of Bacardi Senior High School. I've never had a sip since. I've never had a sip since because I could not imagine what I went through after that. It's better. But yeah, it does.

It's a nice little... People are like, oh, you bitch, you have a pink vodka on me? You think I give a fuck? The checks are clear in brown hair? What color it is? I'm like, what are you talking about? It's pink.

My face is pink. I get sun on it. But I got, I was lucky enough to get invited to that program, which was a big deal. It started in, it started in 99. I went in 2001 or 2002. And, you know, you're playing with the best players in the country. You're living in Ann Arbor, Michigan. If this guy's dog in the vodka right now and having to take a chase.

No, no, no. This guy's mixing it. Give me another one. Give me another one. Yeah. Are you babysitting the fucking little shot? All right, first off, Will, you've said six words in 25 minutes. I don't want to fucking hear you come with the trip right now,

I'm just laughing at that. I can't even. I'm a better listener. Do you think they laugh at his jokes? Oh, there's a whole shot for me to tell a story. Let me tell my story. Hey, if you want to be a listener, I got knocked down Miami, man. I was like it.

Too weird. I can't open. Listen, if you want to be a listener, go subscribe. We'll fucking finish the podcast here, dude. We're all good. You got to catch up for the half of the season you missed, dude Oh, because I was making fucking bank, bro! While I was kidding!

While I was kidding! Oh, my bad. You do make bank. Can you make 16 million this year? You should be fucking buying. I made the pink witties. I mean, I think, 16 times what Will made this year. I think it was the numbers.

Oh, shit. I would hope it's 160 times. Aren't you signs like halfway through this? Dude. Oh, my God. He's a fucking dick, Will, dude. Busting in the boys with you, bro. I'm fucking in the boys.

I love you. Well, it's over here. Loki just getting sandwich and do an insult. No, I'm just sitting here thinking like, damn, I wish you had that perspective when you're stressed throughout the entire year. Yeah, 100%. But we're not in the middle of it right now. So why do you get so stressed?

I'm curious. Like, you have like... I think we're all curious. Like, you're one of the top, all linemen in the league. You make all this money? Like, I understand that you want to be good at your job, but do you stress throughout the season? time.

Fuck yeah, I stress. Yeah, no, I remember that. I remember being like always panicked, maybe like you lose your job. Something's going to happen. What if I give up a sack? What if I let the boys down? What if I do something that costs us the game? It's like this crazy anxiety.

It's what makes you good. It makes you good, but there's levels to it. Like, if you use it as fuel, and it's like kind of, I think Mike Tyson said this is like fear is like fire. If you use it correctly. If you use it correctly, you can cook food, keep yourself warm. But if you let it get out of control, it can burn down your house. He can burn down everything in your life.

You ever talk to a sports psychologist throughout the season? Yeah, I started this year and it was fucking unbelievable. Game changer. I met a guy. He works with a bunch of the Bruins, and it's like, people kind of laugh at it. I think, like, old school people maybe laugh at that stuff, but I wish I did when I was still playing. And granted, I went through a bunch of different things. Like, I was always worried, always nervous, always panicking, and I just wish I had somebody like that.

Because it doesn't make a difference. You made fun of dudes who did it? No, no. Like, nobody really did it. Nobody really, if they did it, they didn't talk about it. It was different. I mean, you guys know, like mental health. Right now is way different.

It's way different right now in the last three years. Exactly. I feel like in the last two, three years, things have really switched. I've been retired this September will be seven years. So it's just like, it wasn't the same. Like if you came in, you're like, guys, I was talking to a doctor, sports psychologist. They'd be like, what? About what, dude?

Like, it was, there was, there's just people look at things a different way now, which can be good. I also think sometimes it can be bad. but as long as like you're talking to somebody, if you're that nervous throat the season being as good of a player you are, it shows imagine the guys who are really on the fringe what they're going through. Someone get Will a fucking towel, dude. No, I don't...

I turn into a fringe guy. By the way, biz should be here and they can cross and we can cross and then boom, there you go. Yeah, I don't take that as a shot. I mean, it's true. Hey, I mean, I've seen you sign with different teams. It's got to be hard, right? Like, you're kind of looking for a job when camp starts, right? and then just staying in shape

looking to get signed throughout the season? Yeah, I mean, it kind of just depends on how you look at it. I would say the last two years, I did my damnedest to go as long as I could by not signing in training camp so that way I could save my body. Yeah, that's just a grinder. But this past year...

She almost want to miss training camp. Correct. Like the year before, I got signed to the Titans 10 days before the first game. The year before I got signed on to the Saints, I ended up getting hurt, getting cut, and then that's when I got picked up by the Raiders that year. This past year, I got offered

at the beginning of training camp, and said no, thought there would probably be more, there wasn't. Went throughout the year, it didn't get a call. And then in November is when I got a call. And I was thinking about being done. Is it hard to keep training when you're like, I don't know what's coming? That's the hardest part. Not that it's like, I don't know what's coming,

but I have so much fun with this. And you're kind of just like, yo, I just, I feel good about the career I've had. And I feel like I've gotten to carve out my transition. So if it doesn't happen, more so it's just like, it's a bitch to go in and train for football every day. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Because it's like, if I do get signed, you don't want to go out there. Like, I'm running down those punt in special teams, feel like I'm about to tear my hammies. And that's just the training that I was doing. It's like, if you slip up at all, like, you can just be hurt fucking playing out there. So the worst part was like,

fuck, I got to go in and work out, put a couple hours in the gym before I do all the things with Bustin and all the boys. Let me ask you guys one thing. I want you to know I heard every single word. No, he was like, I listened to every fucking word just now. I went a couple times. They might have caught on the mic.

They might not have. I went, hmm. Oh, I fucking hate both of you guys right now. I fucking hate both. I can't wait. Don't hate me. I'm getting interviewed. Don't hate me.

Yeah, speaking of your interview. I have a question for both you guys, though. Oh, that's kind of a different deal. Yeah, but I'm also a podcaster so I can also ask questions. No. What'd you say? What do you say? Nothing inside joke.

Nothing again, nothing. Oh, shit. That was going to be. Ryan Clark. You were. It wasn't a big. All right, cool. Either way.

NFL guys Are you like NHL players These guys don't even have guaranteed contracts I know you get like signing bonuses and things like that But like you said You get hurt

You get cut Will the union like ever change that Or is that just kind of how football is going to be Because there's so many guys on each roster You'd like to think so That eventually it'd be like Guaranteed money Kirk Cousins your boy

He was one of the I think the only guy to get guaranteed money Every dollar he signed for where he's getting, no matter what. I think it was. He's so fond in the negotiating. So you signed a deal for 80, right? Yeah.

What's guaranteed? 50 of it was guaranteed. So as the, and that doesn't matter. Injured, not too many clicks, not too many clicks. It doesn't matter. Injured, cut. No, that's cool. And so when agents are doing the deals, it doesn't even matter the big number.

It's all about. Yeah, your first number is like, what's the guarantee? What's the first? And then, and then it's what's the first three-year money or like, if you send a four-year contract, what's the first two-year money? You want to invest that. Let's get it. No, yeah, but you want that as front-loaded as possible. I got super lucky because my agency is great.

CA is awesome. But the first three years were so front-loaded that like what I'm getting paid now after the year I had where I could be staring at like a cut or a trade, my numbers are so low that like even if they did try to replace me, they'd have to go spend four, five, six million more dollars to go get something adequate to replace me, you know? So your agent did a great job. They did an outstanding job. Nice.

I got to do a better job, stand healthy. But with the players thing, though, I mean, you wish that would happen, but our union's so big. There's so many players. But also, it's really? But, bro, they're a lot of them say that. Well, I think a lot of them say it in the locker might as have a podcast. I'll say it. Good for you.

Dumpster fire. Taylor doesn't go to any of the meetings, though, so it's kind of like, trash. Because here's what you need. I might not go to the meetings. Why don't you try to change it? Hang on the same thing. Here's what you need out of Taylor. You need Taylor to be like an $85 million man and you need these high-paying.

guys to be fully guaranteed at a lower top ceiling number. Yeah. Because you need guys to reset like Kirk, Cousins. He was like somebody who's trying to like set an example. He wasn't like out there pioneering for it. But being on Washington with him, he's like, bro, I'm trying to, he would go three-year fully guaranteed deals. Now you have to get to the market to do that, which is a gamble because of injury

and risk. But he gets to the market and then he gets to command what he wants. Because somebody offered him more like in the 90s, but it wasn't fully guaranteed. So he ended up signing with the Vikings at 89. fully guaranteed for three years. And then when they renegotiate with him, he fully guarantees every year. You would need the guys who sign like the big,

longer term deals with like a high ceiling, say $100 million and then $60 of it's guaranteed that window. You need guys to take less than that 100 ceiling and try to maximize that guarantee to kind of like reset to help like set the example. But who's going to do that? Quarterbacks have to be the ones to do it. When the top guys get paid more,

well then the guys who catch the ball from the quarterbacks need to get paid more. and the guys who protect the quarterback have to get paid more. And then the guys who are rushing the quarterback have to get paid more. And it's kind of just like this downhill effect of when quarterback set the market for everybody. And then you have your own categories of different positions. But I feel like not knowing anything, the guys who protect the quarterback may be more important than who he's throwing it to. Because like if you ain't protected him, he ain't getting it to that guy anyways.

He's being modest. Left tackles get. Yeah. They get out good. You're right. Quarterbacks do get the absolute most left tackle. Like the tackles you see how much like. there's going down here. I could be the next victim

of what's been happening to you for the last 30 minutes any second. So I wanted to, I want to say the receivers first before I said me. You know what I'm saying? You know if you feel me? I'm like in my head,

I'm over here hiding and playing at each other. You know what I'm playing chess? You said then I'm like trying to catch up my head. I'm like, what are you talking about? No, we're both just trying to impress you. That's what it is. You know what I'm saying? Um, but yeah,

I think that, I think all that shit is probably won't happen because there's so many more guys in the NFL than there are in hockey or baseball. And I think a lot of guys just care about what that big number looks like. Yep. Because they want to be the highest paid guy. That's the number of one season, sports center, or whatever.

Because you could give somebody an APY of like 16, but pay them like, you know, nine in the first year, 10 in the second year, and then 23 in the next year or whatever would even it out to 16. But that 23 is not guaranteed. So they make 9 and 10 that get cut. You know what I'm saying? And that 23 you planned on, you're not seeing it. Yeah, exactly. You're not seeing it.

But you get to be fucking cool and act like. you're the highest paid dude when really it's like are you going to see that though you know what it's a crazy crazy world crazy world watching NFL salaries and how it all works and you know the wild thing about it all is the salary doesn't even matter because if someone's over the cap all they have to do is go to their big name guys and say hey Aaron Rogers like what we're going to do is convert your entire your salary into a signing bonus and pay you minimum and then you just freed up and they don't care if he makes no that's huge for you because you get the money right now yeah All your money right now and they make minimum six months later,

as opposed to sitting here and then six months from now making his $40 million. He can make $39 right now. And then they save $39 or $35. I don't know what the numbers on the cap are. So the cap really is not a real thing. It just depends on much cash flow teams have and what they're willing to do. I've always kind of looked at like since the NHL got a salary cap with the NFL, it's like those guys who are hired as the capologist, like what a job they have.

Especially with the NHL now. A cappologist is a nice term. What a term. You're such a nerd with that term, but you're so valuable. Yeah. It's like a valuable nerd. I'm a capologist of the Tennessee Titans. Yeah.

And I decide what Taylor Luan's going to make next year. And I think, like, those guys, though, because there's GMs and hockey, they played hockey for 30 years. Some of them, they don't know shit. They need that guy to tell them. Right. You can't give this guy that. It is confusing for players. Why do you think the money's so low in hockey?

And I'm relatively speaking to football. Because, like, Crosby signed a hunter and puck. a plus million dollar contract, right? About six, seven years ago. Somebody signed the something in the hundred years. Ovi signed a huge deal that he did himself too. But it was like, but like they signed these big contracts,

but it's like 10 years, 11 year contracts. The biggest salary in hockey, I think, so you can only make, it's embarrassing. It's like 18% of the team's salary cap, like one guy can make. There's like a max to how much you can make. But hockey, I mean, it's growing.

It's getting better. But what's odd to me is, that in the early 2000s, there was guys making $10 million a year. And now the best players make $10 million a year. So it's like there really isn't that jump in terms of like you've seen in the other sports now. Granted, baseball's got 162 games with all these 60,000 people at games, football is the day of the week. Yeah, but hold on real quick with baseball.

Like I've never watched a baseball game that wasn't the playoffs. Fifth pitcher making $13 million a year. But I've never watched a baseball game that wasn't the playoffs where it's packed. It's like, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm a choice like an idiot.

It's beens in the club. Fenway, Wrigley. They don't got salary cap. They're like, there isn't a salary cap, but if they go, if they go over,

there's some sort of, there's a luxury tax or something like that. But, great job. Shout out Bloss, dude. That was fucking huge. So I will say this.

He's drunk already. say this. No, it's Pink Whitney. I'm actually like immune to it. It's me, dude. I'm literally, it's my blood. He's recharging. He's like a Tesla. This is the battery. You know what I'm saying? They're selling my skin tone after a week in Fort Lauderdale.

What are we talking about? Oh, baseball. No, baseball is a huge numbers. Huge numbers. And basketball, there's only what? Ten guys a team and it's so big. They got the Chinese money. But hockey it's getting better, but it is not the most popular sport in the world. I mean, it's just how it is. Yeah, but it is worldwide as opposed to NFL

who's like getting into Europe and getting into multiple countries, other countries, but it's not like, and you go anywhere in the world, you can play hockey, except for maybe like South America. Or Africa. Or Africa. So two continents, assume it. You know what I'm saying? There's a whole bunch of other shit. And I don't know what I'm saying? And Itercraft, but that's just going wild up there.

With the, with the penguins? Yeah. Whatever, dude. There is this flat anyway. You know what is this? What is this? What is this? So this is the average annual player salary and all sports. What are we at like six or seven? I mean, we're ahead of Italy's soccer league.

That's not bad. I mean, we're ahead of Germany's soccer league. Hockey, yeah, it's hard to describe. I mean, it's not the most popular sport in the world. I think part of it is hockey's very expensive game to play. Very expensive. When you're younger, you need equipment. You need ice time.

The ice time now in Boston, you know, granted, it changes across the country. you mentioned your dad's from Medina, a place like that, they have like 10 outdoor rinks. It's awesome. Boston now, it's like $400 for an hour of ice. And then you got to buy all this gear. And then you got to pay a couple grand to play on the team. Not everyone can do it, you know, and you get these amazing athletes in the NFL and the NBA,

you grab a ball, you go out and play. And so I think, like, how difficult it is to get into the sport kind of translates to later on in terms of like how big the sport is. Yeah. Now, I do think that NHL getting with ESPN, they're back with ESPN this year, good. They paid a lot more money than prior like NBC Sports had them and things like that. So that could be good

but there's a way to go. Do you think some of these rule changes that it may be a little more soft? I think it does I think it does hurt a little bit. Yeah. I think people love fights. We said it earlier and if you go to games, people love fights.

But like you guys have learned with doing this job as the podcast and being athletes, like Twitter speaks for a lot of people. even though it's not like the actual world you're living in. You know what I mean? Like Twitter's... It's a weird minority.

That seems so big. It's a vocal minority that drives me insane. And like, unfortunately for my life, I have to be on it. Like, it's part of my job. But it drives me crazy because in hockey sense, Twitter's the worst thing that ever happened to hockey. Twitter has all these reporters and all these fans who like every time there's a concussion, they're going nuts.

And every time there's a fight that's so unhealthy, the guy's going to have a concussion. And he's going to deal with CTE. And it's like, uh, all right. all right, well, everyone watching the game was on their feet going nuts for it. Everyone's talking about it. The guy who fought were willing to do it. But we got you on Twitter saying how bad this is for the game.

And in some instances, the league really responds to like different tweets and different action on Twitter where it's like it's kind of bad for the game in a sense. It seems kind of weird to me that like hockey and from the media standpoint, that like hockey players, I know a couple of players and the Predators are have great personalities, great dudes. But you watch some of their interviews and they look like fucking. can, they have a stick up their ass. That's another thing. And that's a thing that, like, they kind of tell you to do, right? You've got to be vanilla. You've got to be.

Because in a weird way, this is a gentleman sport. It's a big time, it's like not taking away from any other sport, but hockey, it's like, it's a team thing. It's all about a team. There's no I in team. All the cliches where. Yeah, but there's a me. There's a me.

And that's kind of what I've learned later on. I'm like, oh, shit, I should have been talking way more. I could have this fog going on was playing. You probably would have been traded 10 more times, though, you know what I'm saying? I got traded 17 times. It would have been 27 total. But I think that players in hockey for a long time have been just keep your most shot. Give the old cliche answers and don't ruffle any feathers.

Don't give the other team bulletin board material. And then you see these other sports and you see NFL players and NBA guys who are willing to go out on a limb and get themselves to be the center of attention. It sounds bad, but it's not. And it grows the game. It's like personalities. And hockey's doing better on that. Like guys are getting the Instagrams. Guys are wearing different outfits.

some teams have started getting rid of the dress code you need to go to the game. Stuff that like... What's the dress code usually likes? I hate cutting you off. Shoot and tie. Has to be a suit and tie. Yeah, suit and tie.

You can kind of wear J's if you want to wear Jays. Yeah, now probably, but like before. When you were playing? No, not really. I mean, in a way, it's like the more individuals that grow their brands, the better the whole sport does. And hockey's just lagging so far behind on that.

They're lagging behind because guys don't want to be the guy in the team that the guy is like, what the fuck, man. It's about the team. Why are you bringing the attention to yourself? Where I personally think other sports guys don't care. I mean, there's why receivers in the NFL they don't care. Well, yeah.

Your head, Will you take this. I was just going to say it does a little bit. Like, that is true in a sense, but also like you get, there's a lot of like team guys. And not even that, but the coaches preach it. You know what I mean? Yep. Like I know, you know, rape's kind of big on that. Yeah, Braves is being on that.

Because he came in the paths, which is kind of like nobody's saying word. Oh, no, we're the paths of the south for sure. Yeah, you guys are. Yeah, a little bit like. that for sure. Ray would always bust my balls. Like, I would do like tweets and stuff like that. Yeah.

You make it about you. And I was like, oh, all I did was say they, it was the best third string, uh, team or that you've, that Tennessee's ever signed. But my thing, you're making it about me.

You know what I mean? But he's just like, you know, don't do stuff to like hurts the team or don't make it about you. Like it's team, team, team. He's right because when I get in the season, I won't do the podcast. And I all like, I'll stay on Twitter.

Yeah, it's, it's a, it's more of an insecurity than anything else is you don't want to walk into a the locker room after a loss or you don't have a bad game and the boys are looking at you like you just fucking care with this podcast which is I know my argument would be like and it's the way you're saying it and it's way easier being retired and looking back but it's like all right braids I love how I'm calling Mike variable raves yeah everybody calls him I when I'm done I got I got to make money and this is like leading me into the end of my career and like yeah right now like if you don't believe I'm all in for this team that's one thing but if I can

do that and also set myself up for when I'm done, man. I need to find something when I'm finished. So it's like to build your own brand in hockey and probably some parts of football seems selfish, but it's in a way like everyone's career comes to an end. It's not easy for anyone. And then you need to, for most guys, make money. And even if you have enough money, you need to do something. So it's like that can kind of create stuff for you in the future where if you're just

quiet and yourself at the end, you're like, shit, why didn't I do that stuff I wanted to do? Because right now I might have something else. Right. The one thing I always lean on is like when we do this stuff is the logo we play for the logo right But when we're done playing for the logo or the logo customers or trade you You're not going to make sure you're set up for the next thing

So when you're trying to build it while you're a player Shaking the hands when you're better looking your jokes are funny or all this shit And building your platform Then you have something to transition into Because that teams are going to take care of you When it's over and they're done with you I remember So I got traded from Pittsburgh to Anaheim

We went to the cup finals in Pittsburgh we lost I got traded at the deadline the next year and then they went on to win the Cup. So that was tough. But I was with my dad. That is fucking tough. Dude, dude. Holy shit.

There was me and another guy that were on the team the year before. And then they went to Game 7. We lost to Detroit in the Cup finals and they played Detroit again. They beat Detroit in Game 7. So we're watching Game 7. I was texting this kid in Pittsburgh 1. I was actually really happy for my buddies. I really was.

But it still was crushing. And like, we got so fucked up that night. It was like, what else are you going to do? But I don't even know how I just thought of that. But I ended up getting traded. Oh, because I got trade to Edmonton. I'm sorry, Anaheim. And I was sitting with my dad one time.

Anaheim was good. Edmonton, Palf City. But I was really struggling. I had some injuries. And I was just, I wasn't the same player I was when I signed my, like, one big contract. And I remember saying to my dad. I was like, I wish I could like, I almost like want to give some of this money back. I fucking, I'm so bad.

I don't deserve this. And he was like, what? And I was like, like, one of those like fathers, what where I'm like, he's like, shut the fuck up. Like, you think these fucking people would give you more money if you were playing better? You think they give a fuck about you when you're done? And it was like, oh my God. Like, I had never thought of that. Like, it was like, I felt so bad for not doing my job and not living up to my contract and things like that.

And it's like, they don't give a fuck about you. You're overperforming that contract. And it's really hard to kind of come to terms with that when you're, playing because you're all about the team and you want to make the GM proud of that signed you and you want to make your parents proud and your agent proud. It's like in the end, man, when you're done, nobody gives a fuck about you. You're a beat-up card. Did you're a commodity.

And I hate like telling that to guys. And we interview guys and, you know, you have beers with them after. You run into them. And you don't want to be the guy that's like, hey, man, like at the end, man, it's going to be tough. But you also want to tell them, like, just get every single dollar you can right now. and don't feel bad about any part of it. So I don't really know how I got into that. Maybe it's just, you know, PTSD for me.

You need to be a spokesman for it because you can, like, we need to make hats and make hockey cool again. Like, get guys to fucking have a tilt. It's a cool sport. You got to go to a game in person. It's epic sport, dude. It's literally, I think I've said this on the podcast before. If not, I've said it in the real world.

But it's my favorite sport to watch over football. You were at the, you were one of the guys, right? Yeah. You were one of the guys drinking out of the fish and stuff. Yeah, I was the guy chugging out of the fish. I was going to say, Hey, he knows. Yeah, he knows.

You was the guy. Play that, play that all smell. You're like one of the guys are in the corner. Like, you were at the game? Bussing in the boys. You're there tomorrow? Bust it over that catfish. We're doing it tomorrow.

We got a big Pink Whitney party at Jason L. Deans and then going to the game. Were you staying at? What are you doing that? What are you, uh, Joseph? Great hotel. Yes. Solid. Solid place.

That's what we stay for our games. That's what we stay before games is the Joseph. They make you guys. That's like Russia. They call it the Baza. So you got to go to a hotel the night before your game. Yeah, it's brutal. But they make you do that in the NFL?

Make you do that in the NFL? They do like a bed check at 1030. Oh, my goodness. They know you guys are lunatics. You guys will be out and about ripping it up. No doubt. I think it's because it's like, are you getting a knock on your door no matter what?

Yeah, every night at 1030. And they barge in like assholes. Some dudes will finagle it. They'll pay the guy who checks the door and, you know, finagle the... It's a corrupt world in there. But speaking of Russia, speaking of Russia, since it's a hot topic right now. that was your time in Russia.

Interesting to say. Did you see this coming? What's going on in the world right now? I was there in 2014 when they went into Crimea. I played with a guy who played in Dunbas, Ukraine. They had a great KHL team and their rink was blown up. What does the HL stand for? Continental Hockey League, which I don't really know what that has to do with Russia.

Yeah, that's what I was just thinking. To the K. Allegedly. So they don't give up. So in Russia, when you're the captain, you don't have a C on your shirt, you have a K. that kind of goes hard to me. So it is pretty good drip. I'm not going to lie.

I fucking hate Russia, but I'm going to... You're reusing the drip word too. That's nice. Yeah, well, I don't have a tinted visor to wear it. I told you's different. It's different. So Russia was great. I was in Sochi, which they called the San Diego of Russia, which always cracked me up.

That's what they say. Because it doesn't really snow there. They had the Olympics there in 2014. I lived in the old, like, athletes village, which was a ghost town. It was so bizarre. It was like one of those. hear about like the Olympics now, they go to cities and then when they leave, there's just nothing.

It was like this Olympic village that was just done, ghost town. So they put us up there. See, it is pretty nice looking. The San Diego of Russia. And so I was, I hope that's on a billboard there. When I was there, oh yeah. Yeah, it's definitely on a billboard in backwards letter. I don't even know their alphabet's different.

But I remember we had a driver. So all the imports hang out. Every team in the KHL is allowed, five imports. So just non-Russians. There was a Canadian, a Finn, a Swede, a U.S. guy, myself. There was to say there's six. We had a Czech goalie. Sounds like the joke Will was going to tell.

It was a crazy. Yeah, that was a joke. Hey, guys, I have a joke. So we fucking Get Will. Get Will's heartbeat going, boys. So this is going right now. We have a driver because you can't drive over there. And I joined the team.

Hey, I actually did what you did. I kind of, I was like, I'm not going to the KHL until after training camp. Training camp, you leave July 1st to the KHL. So midsummer, all the guys in the NHL. Before the July. I'm not going until after camp. So I actually didn't sign until middle of October.

And I get over there and there's a driver. There's a driver for all the imports. You can't drive over there. Why can't you drive over there? Because, like, it's Russia. Like, they'll fucking take you. And it's just, you know, there's no chance an import can drive over there. Every team has a driver for the airport.

imports. And so this guy's driving. This guy's driving us. It's the second day. All of a sudden, the cops are behind us. I'm like, oh, fuck. And the cops, we get pulled over the guy that pulls over Vadim. I'll never forget. I have a picture. I'm in the hot tub with Vadim. He's my boy. Haven't spoken to him since I left. So the cop walks up to

the window, and he puts down the window like this far, and Vadim just takes a bunch of cash, bunch of roubles, and just hands it out the window. Is that like marbles? Is that like the currency? That's the cash. Got you. And hands it to the cop. And he says, by a lot.

It leaves. Get the fuck out of here, dude. And the best part about that story was, when I had been on the Penguins, fucking eight years before that, Evgeny Malkin, superstar Hall of Fame, one of the best players of all time,

he came over, it was his rookie year, he was living with Sergey Gonchar. What a guy? Sergey Gonchar was a great defenseman, unbelievable player, and he was a Russian as well. So Malcon lived with him,

his rookie year. And he didn't have a license, and he got pulled over, driving a car, a Porsche. had no business driving and he doesn't know. He's from Russia. Magnita Gorsk. And the cop pulled him over

and he should put down the window and he ain't a bunch of money. And the cops like, what the fuck? He's going to say Russia, bro. That is fucking wild. I got to call off in the Pittsburgh police and went down there. You don't know. It's just a different life.

But I'll say this. As miserable as I was, my favorite memory of that of my time in Russia too was when I'm a past fan being from Boston area. Tough. Yeah, it's been a real tough. run. I had a slingbox.

Just departed ass, you're talking in the way. We got to go somewhere. Yeah, sorry, guys. I can't tell you where we're going. We're winners. So yeah. Whose guy we taken? I'm on the Pats of the South, though. So I slingboxed. I recorded the Pats,

Seattle's Super Bowl. And I, and I, because I knew, so I didn't, I shut off the game. It would have been like three in the morning. I went to practice. I had my phone off. And I knew nobody at the game would have, like, Russians don't know football. I don't know.

So nobody said a word. I went home and I watched the game 12 hours later, had no clue and got to like see the Butler interception. Like it was live to me. But the reason I just thought of that because I hated being in Russia. It was miserable. You know, it was just tough. It was this, you can't talk to anyone.

And now I look back on it. And as miserable as I was, I'm like so happy I did it. Because it was, you know, it was an experience. And I got to go through some stuff that probably I didn't love at the time. and in the end I'm like, oh my God, I'm really happy I did it. And I went over there and I had a couple buddies who'd been there and left. And they'd be like, there's no chance you're going to last. You're so boozy, you bitch.

You're not going to fucking make it a week. And I was like, I'm not fucking leaving this place. And like, we had double session some days and I gutted it out. So that's what I'm proud about. When you go out in town there, like, do you have to have like a someone walk you or escort you around? It wasn't like going out. It was weird. What about the San Diego area?

Yeah. When they say San Diego or Russia, they might as well say like, Sacramento of Russia. It's terrible. It's trash. That's where I was born. I would move to Sacramento. You were born in Sacramento?

Yeah. Are you shit? Sorry to hear that, bro. No, tough areas. Were you scared to go out all the time in Russia? We didn't really go out, honest to God. We did not go out. But when you found yourself out, were you kind of like,

yo, fuck out. I didn't. I never, we would, the imports would have drinks in our, like, dorm and just hang out. And one guy had his wife there. And we were kind of like our own family within the team.

We wouldn't. All of your guys' his wife? Or what was it? I wasn't like that. What's up, Susie? I'd just scratch that in.

I face-time my girl and got it going on that one. I sure got to act. I mean, they might have blocked it in Russia at that point, but I didn't go out. I didn't do anything.

And they had curfews too. It was like the Baza. That's what I'm saying. There wasn't a chance to go out before games. On the road, you couldn't do anything. I had a buddy who played in Moscow who loved it.

I just didn't have the same experience. Yeah. Biz came on. I was talking about AK-47s, bags of money being left at the locker. Like, did you have any experiences with the... I had a guy... We had this kid... What was his name?

McKell Anison. And we played in a game one time, and all of a sudden, like, after the game, I look over and he had, like, a buddy come in the room. All of a sudden, he's got a handgun. He's waving it around. His buddy bought him. My handgun.

I'm like, what the fuck? He's like, brand new, brand new. I was like, holy shit. But in terms of the cash, they would get direct deposit. I had like an Italian bank within Russia. It was kind of weird. I remember actually I told my wife now,

she wasn't at the time. I got home and had all this money in this Russian Italian bank account. And I had no clue how to get it home? I'm like, how the fuck am I going to get this money home? Like there's Italian, there's Russia. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm so bad on the computer anyways.

I said, if you can get this money back to me, I'll get you any bag you want. Like that night, it was in my Bank of America account. I'm like, okay, we're going, off it tomorrow. No shit. I had no clue how to get home. I actually heard a great story. Before the KHL was formed, it was called the Russian Super League when it was really

no rules, like completely off the wall. There was a goalie who had like 400 grand. They paid American cash over there too back then. He had $400,000 American cash, and he had no clue how to get it home without dealing with the taxes. He's looking to just get this money home.

What do I do? So he cut his pads. He cut into the pads and he put all the cash into each pad, $200 grand in each pad, and he sewed it back up, and then he checked his equipment going. And so on the flight home, he has no idea. Like he's like, when I get back there,

like if this equipment's there, like the money that I'd be it, and he got home, he got back, the equipment came, you know, across the whatever it called. And he looked and he's like, oh, my God, it's back. And he got all the money home that way. No shit. Yeah, it's a panic. Savage, man.

That was back when it was like old school illegal stuff. Dude, that's fucking hardcore. Russia's crazy. What can you tell us about the Russian gas and the vitamins? The Russian gas is nuts. I played a game. Well, what's rushing gas? So Russian gas is...

I remember here in business. Before the game. We just regurgating shit. I love that. He said, he said, my man was on some vitamins one time. I was like, do we know what kind of vitamins they wore? He's like, oh, you'll have to ask wit. No, so here we are.

So I was playing and seen. Let's do this. And now I have the joke. So listen to my joke. So the guy... So that one just keeps living and I love it, dude. So I don't forget stuff. So the guys that I was playing with the Russian guys before the game, like after warmups,

I'm talking like 10 minutes for a puck job, they'd go in and all of them would be on an IV. And I'm like, what is going on? What is that? And the guys are, you try, you try, you try, you feel strong, you feel strong. I was like, well, I don't know. I don't know. And finally we played a game, Dynamo Moscow. There's like CSK-A Moscow.

There's Dynamo Moscow. There are two big teams there. And the team was good. I was like, all right, fuck this. Like, this is probably my last year playing hockey. And I went in, and after warmth, I got this IV, and I got on the ice, I was like, oh, my God, I am flying. I'm talking.

I'm talking. I'm like, I'm going to play in the NHL again. No, it's like, this isn't over. This isn't over. I'm calling my agent. I'm like, call all these teams. I'm back. Our season ends in March.

Bring me in for the playoffs. I feel him is. I'm high stepping out there, a couple assists. and then the game ended the next day we had practice and I was like, wait a minute, I suck again. What the hell was that?

And it was, I don't know, what was in it. And some teams actually had like, you put the gas mask on and you're like, I don't know what you were inhaling and some teams had the IVs, but it was 100% something because I was buzzing out there. Do you inhale?

I did the IV. I never did the gas. I never did the Russian gas, but my gas was an IV. I considered all the same thing. basically performance enhancing something from Russia. Right. Time to take a quick break from the episode and shout out, Paint Your Life.

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So, yeah, it was great, though. Performance advancing something from Russia. So let's quit in Tarantino this, dude. Let's fucking jump all the way back to you getting kicked out of your bill at family's house. Yeah, stupid story. It doesn't even... Don't do it. Hey, if it's stupid.

Make it a little more theatrical for me. Actually, dress that thing up. A friend of mine, Brian Foley, his older brother, Pat, was a really, really good player. He's now a Boston cop. So he went out to this national program

a couple years for me. Cricket cop. Got this great, great, no, no, he's legit. He's actually like listening to the fucking microphone when he's not working, looking to hop into scenes that they might need his help.

He's an animal. Super cop. Yeah, super cop. His whole family, they're all super cop. He's far from Super Troopers. Yeah, exactly. One of them's Secret Service. they're animals.

So I went to this billet family who was great. Like this kid's like great. My parents didn't want me to go. How old are you during the bill at this? 16. And when do you guys usually go into billet families? 15, 16, 17. Yeah.

I think I was turning 17 that season. My parents didn't want me to go. They wanted me to stay at the high school I was at, graduate. And I was like, no, it's whatever. I had to do it. Now, and I hate fucking doing this again. But like when you play hockey, unless you're like in Minnesota, you kind of have to play like travel hockey, right?

you can't just play high school hockey. Massachusetts used to be like Minnesota. They were the only two that you could play high school hockey. And get a scholarship or get in the NHL. And it's changed where Massachusetts now, if you're that good, you kind of have to go. And even Minnesota like you kind of, it's high school hockey's great, but it's also, it's so watered down,

like the whole country in terms of hockey. But to get the chance to go to play for USA national development program was huge. So I go out and it's all about like my parents, like, we got to get good billets. we got to get good billets. And all right, well, we met this great people that Pat Foley had been with, the Shays. I go out there and, like, they're really nice, beautiful house in Ann Arbor. And, like, I got in trouble.

That's what the U.S.HL team is. Is that the junior U.S.A team? Now they're in Plymouth, Michigan. They were in Ann Arbor. Yeah. And I went to a game. I went to a game. Yeah.

It gets bowling green. Actually, no, they're in Plymouth. Yeah, exactly. In Plymouth, Michigan, you dummy. Figure it out. Basically, though, my parents sent me out there. They got me this old Ford Explorer, like for a car out there. We drove it out there.

I got the car. And I crashed it into my buddy's basketball hoop at his billet family's house. So I was like, all right, well, I'm just going to say that this car got hit at the movie theater because I'm not going to admit that I did anything, you know, when you're young. And sure is shit, I got caught in the lie because my dad's like, all right, well, let's call the movie theater. I'm sure they have cameras outside because he knew I was lying. I'm like, oh, fuck. So I admitted to him that I crashed it into a, you know, a basketball hoop.

He's like, go tell your billet family. I'm like, it's not even their car. Why do I have to tell them? He's like, go tell them. So I went and told them they acted all disappointed, like, so upset. It's like, it's not even your fucking car. My dad made me tell you. Why do you even care?

Whatever. So they were kind of on edge of. So fucking 16, 17 of you? Yeah, it's like, what do you care? So whatever, they're on edge. And then we had a book report. We had a book report to do Fahrenheit. 4-51. If any of you guys have read that book, I was supposed to read it, and I didn't.

And so I called my billet mom, just right before Thanksgiving. I said, hey, Mrs. Shea, I just talked to my teacher, and I read the book, Farronite 451. I don't really get it. And she told me if I rent the movie, it'll really help me understand it for this book report I have to do. She's like, oh, okay, can you go rent me? I said, can you go rent me in the movie? Because I could go to go to practice. She's like, yeah, sure. Well, meanwhile, this lunatic, she called. called the teacher. She's like, did you ask Ryan? My balloon. Not even my son. My billet son. Did you tell Ryan to

watch the movie because he didn't get the book? And she's like, no. What are you talking about? So, we go on the road. We go to Green Bay. We're playing in Green Bay right across from Lambeau Stadium. On Thanksgiving morning, I wake up. I get a call from the coach, Mike Eves. And he said, come down to my room. And I was like, what? And he's like, all your stuff's packed up at the

office. You're kicked out of your Billet's family house. apparently me lying about not reading this book and needing to see the movie was like their final straw to like get me kicked out of the house. They booted me out. They packed all my shit up. They had my toothpaste with my sweatshirts.

They had like my shoes with like different old hockey gear. And I was done. I had to sleep one night. I was in my car at Pioneer High School in Ann Arbor. And then like the assistant coach took me in. But in the end it ended up working out great. I met these amazing people, Dave and Dottie Lineball. They were about 70 years.

nicest people in the world. They took me in. They used to make me like sandwiches and shit at night. They were great. So it was great I ended up leaving the Shays. They basically let him do it. Yeah, yeah. 70 years old, oh, didn't give a shit what I did.

The Shays son, I used to send them like emails and stuff. Like your parents sock. I was like all over them. But it was funny because my good friend had had a great experience with them, but they did not like me. They didn't like you. A pioneer high school. Does that where you went to high school?

That's my brother went too. No shit. Yeah, it's right across the street from... His brother was a good hockey player. He's a really good hockey player. And my dad... A kid that played at Corpus Christi? Yeah.

Oh, so he was living in Ann Arbor? He was living in Ann Arbor. When I went up to Michigan, he was like 16. And so my dad and him went up to Ann Arbor to be around better hockey. And they could see you. And they could see me. It wasn't by my choice, but that's what they wanted to do. And they lived, like, in the houses, like, right across the street from Pioneer.

Yeah. So I would cruise over there, catch a free meal. And my brother was a solid hockey player. He was more of a grinder than he was, like, skilled. Yeah. But I remember going to pie high and, like, you know, So I came from a private school in Massachusetts area, Thayer Academy, shout out to Tigers. And there was like 95 kids in my grade.

And I went to Pioneer High and there was like 900. Yeah, it's a massive school. I think it was 3,600 kids, like, you know, 3,800 kids in the schools. It was eye-opening for me. But I remember, like, naturally, you got kids from all over the country coming. They're the best 17, 18-year-old hockey players in the country. And the girls in the high school are kind of like, all right, we're into these guys. So these dudes who grew up with these girls their whole life

They're like, fuck you. Now granted, none of the girls like me. I was a complete nerd with big ears. But all these other kids were like trying to fight guys on my team because all of a sudden the girls, they knew their whole life were going to them. It was a great show. I get to witness. But Pioneer High was like, you had to go.

And then Huron High School was also in Ann Arbor. Guys had to go through like metal detectors to get into that school. I'm like, what am I? Exactly. Now they're done. Now since they're, they ended up leaving Huron, guys could only go to Pioneer before they went to Plymouth. But that's my NDDP story.

So did you get drafted right out of high school? No, I played one year. It changed. It used to be if you went to college, the draft would get the late a year. Yeah. So I got drafted after my freshman year. Now it's the same for everyone, so you do get drafted after she did. Would you go to college?

B.U. Boston University. Okay. Yeah. It's kind of where I dreamed of going when I was growing up. Why did you get offered from Michigan? I could have gone anywhere. I could go.

I wanted to go back home. Okay, guy. I know. All right. I know. The boy got a half to fifth overall. Yeah. No, it was stunned.

I could have gone anywhere. Five stars. But I actually, looking back, I would have liked to go. I love BU. I had great experiences, but I would have liked to go to a school that B.U's campus is just downtown Boston. There's no football team. Like, I would have probably, if I could do it again, maybe experience, you know, the entire college experience. I didn't really get that.

It's a little different. Yeah, Michigan was awesome. The hockey boys there. That's one thing. I don't know what your experience was like, but whenever I've been around hockey people, especially in college, it just seems like the closest knit group of dudes. Yeah. Like everyone fucks around with each other.

Yeah. Hangs out. There was a, I don't even know if this is like even appropriate for this podcast, but there was a spring semester. The hockey boys decided that they're not sleeping with a girl by themselves. Like they have one of their boys with them. Yeah, I try to stay. I'm going to start like twitching.

I know. The times have changed. But yeah, there was a lot of good times with hockey teams. You guys did that too? In college? No, I never did that. I never did that.

I never did that. Singular sex. There was no group sex. Zero group sex in the experience I had at college. Hey, we saw that we looked up the Russian gas. Now, did they not have, do they not have tort all in the NHL? Oh, they have tort all in the NHL. What's funny enough is we were just in Vegas for the Chickles Cup.

We started a street hockey tournament that we're doing. Next one's in Buffalo, July 22nd weekend. If you're into street hockey, check it out of their birthday. And I'll show to Taylor. And I actually in Vegas, because we were going to, going at it every day, right? So every morning I would have this IV doctor come to my room, and I would get Torado all every single day.

It's the greatest drug in the world. Do you feel like that's what that was over Russia? No, because Torado... No, Toradoll gives... All pain is gone. What I had was making me fast and strong and, like, with it. Tortoll just shuts down pain. I was buzzing.

That was not Torval I was on. I've taken Torval. Every guy in the Stanley Cup playoffs from the third game of the first round on is taking Torval. Oh, bro, I take Tortoll literally for practice. No shit, really? Only on Wednesday sometimes. Really?

Really, I promise. I take it for practice only on Wednesday sometimes. So you have doctors that'll give it to you for practice? Because it shows change it where it's like, it's not easy to... It just depends, like, you know, you rub elbows. Are you on it for every game? I am, but towards the end of the season, I got off of it a little bit because it makes me like too relaxed. Really?

What? You can play without Torto? Yeah, I started taking Declophanac instead. Diaclos is doing one? Oh, you took something else. Yeah. But that cofenacs, like, not like a tort all. It's a narcotic.

You're too much. Toral, your organs are going to shut down, like that of shit. That's what I said rarely. Like, it wasn't something I did. Like, if I'm, like, actually going through, like, some kind of injury. There was a couple times during camp, like, just for regular practice. Because, like, my knee was hurting or something? Right.

I would go and take Toradole. So, who was that? What is that? That's in Jersey we were selling, I think. Oh, I'm going to need that. I'm going to need that to you. I feel you're going to be wrong in that right now. Oh, dude.

I would wear the fuck out of that. Yeah, that's one of our... Probably wait till this whole WW3 things over. I'm probably not going to rep that. They make our jerseys. Men's league hockey. They make great... Men's league sweaters.

They make great jersey. We have a bunch of different styles. Different jokes we've had on the pod. We have all these different jerseys. Yeah, that's a good one. I've actually, like, haven't seen that in a while. I might start rocking that. Although actually not right now.

They're in Ukraine. Have you seen the movie Goon? Yes. Doug the Thugg the Thug Glat, dude. That's a jersey I would wear all day every day. That's a good one. There's Goon, too, I think. It's the one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Goon, the original, is the most inspirational sports movie movie I've ever seen in my life. You think? Oh, dude, better than remember the Titans or Friday Night Lights, all that bullshit. No, bro. You're a guy. Dick, dude.

I think you're just dying on this hill. No, I love it. I know you love that movie. The best inspirational sports movie all time. When Doug just fell Glat and Ross the boss Ray are sitting in the box, and he goes, he fucking takes his stick and he goes, you're ready kid? And Doug goes, Doug goes,

Yes, thanks for asking. And then they square up in center ice. That fight scene, it's nothing you would ever be a part of. No, never. I played with George LaRocque, who is one of the toughest guys. Yeah, black dude, right? Lefty killer. He was in Goon.

Yeah. The opening scene of him. Yeah, he, there's a clip of him, like, before he squares off with somebody, you know, at the face off, they're like, you want to go? Yeah, let's go. And then George just says, good luck, man. Like, it's like, that's different now. Like, that doesn't really happen, whereas it used to just be.

Yeah, right after the fight, we're good buddies, but I'm going to try to kill you. So why does that happen? Like, who decides when you're going to fight, why you're going to fight? So there used to be, so that was part of it. Like, when I was coming up, like, the goons, they would just, they knew they were fighting each other than we're going to fight. Like, it did nothing. And so I kind of agree with, like, getting rid of these stage fights.

Now fights pretty much happen if you hit somebody from behind, if you get your buddy, you know, you hit a guy on your team dirty, if you run the goalie. Like something else. What's when the goal I mean? You can't really hit the goal. Like if somebody hits the goal like game on. If he touched the goal it's over. Pretty much.

Yeah. Especially if he's out of his creche and you hit him. Like that's usually enough to start a fight now. Pretty much. Yeah. Like the quarterback. But even though. I'll go after dudes who hit the quarterback.

Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, it used to be before. First shift of the game, two guys who have no problem with each other. And the game hasn't even started. They're squaring off. They've got, that's really what the game's gotten rid of. That's one thing that's not that bad they get away from because like those guys,

they didn't even want to be fighting each other half the time. So there's no situation where it's like, hey, it's 3-1, we need a spark. No, that's so-and-so. That happens way less, but that still would be a reason if you're down. But they are done with like the one minute into the game, score zero-zero, the two toughest guys are going to fight. And both of the guys, for the most part, haven't slept pre-game meal because they're so nervous. The night before they know who they got to fight. It's like, talk to these guys.

these dudes battled such anxiety to know, like, even though I know I'm tough, I know it can fight. Like, I don't know what's going to happen in this fight. There's a documentary about that, right? Like Ice Guardians. Yeah, it's great. I think Biz is in that, actually. Is he? Yeah.

I watched it like four or five years ago. I don't remember a whole lot of it, but them talking about that. Was Biz was like one of those guys, right? That's how Biz made a living. Biz, I'm, my first memory. Like, in my mind, I'm like, I'm beating this guy's ass. I'm better than you, bro. He's my height and, like, Jack.

He's pretty big compared to most human beings. You're nine feet tall. Could you teach me to... Nice tall joke. Can you teach me to skate and fight? How long would that take? I couldn't teach you to do either. I couldn't teach you to do either.

So my first memory of biz is I went to Pittsburgh training camp. And... Dude, this is not a big dude. 8 a.m. 8 a.m. So the first... There was four groups. And the first group was on at 8 a.m.

And I walk in the rink. And he's squaring off. with his buddy. Like at the time, they were real good friends. This kid, Dan Carcillo, 8 a.m., they're squaring off center ice, good friends, and going toe to toe. I'm like, Jesus Christ.

But Biz almost made the penguins when he was 19 years old as a defenseman. And then he had some real off-ice issues. He was a complete lunatic when he was younger. He was getting in trouble all the time. He'll tell you himself. And they sent him to the H.L. To the coast.

And finally, they were like, all right, you're going to be a forward. You're going to be on the fourth line. You're going to fight. And what he did that's pretty impressive, It's like a lot of guys would just be like, no, I'm not, I'm not a fourth line. I was defensive. I'm not fighting.

And Bizz was like, whatever it takes to get the NHL, I don't care. And so he started fighting. And he learned to fight, and he did it. And he kept doing it. And he ended up being the guy who would, like, every game going into fight guys. Yeah, he's, compared to NHL fighters, he's a little small, little undersized. So he'd be fighting guys huge, bigger than him. And he'd be like not wanting to fight him, but he'd just do it.

So that's why he's an animal. What was he doing off the ice? What is he doing off the ice? Yeah, what was he doing off the ice? I mean, like, old school chicklets, biz, you hear about his, like, sex capades. You hear about his drinking, his drugging. He was a lunatic. He was definitely a pig roast kind of guy.

Lunatic. But he's, uh, he's, he's cleaned up. Now he's a businessman. He's got a girl. He's a smart guy. Dude, he is. He is a smart fucking dude. Oh, he's the dumbest smart person in the world.

Oh, you like text or something like, I'll call you in a certain time. What? It reminds me of Will. Is he like that? Will's, no, Will's smart smart, but like. He seems very business-driven. motivated, knows what he's doing, strategy, handles all

stuff, I feel like all the shots you've taken, we got to lift you up a little bit. I thought that's why you said that. Yeah, man, let me, let me pump you up after this. You can pump his tire first. When he walks away from and goes, oh, fuck, yeah. But he, no, Will, I mean, without Will, this podcast is going nowhere.

So that's Biz with our podcast. Hey, what the fuck is, are you, he's jewelry? I don't know, I just, my brother gave me this. I'm like, fuck it, I'll bring it out. Any nicotine's good. Hey, so Biz came on our podcast. He joined Chicklet to his,

Myself and R.A. and Grinnelli, and Biz came, and if it was still just us three without Biz, we'd have, I don't know, 20,000 people listening, which was cool, I thought. I don't have the work ethic that biz has. I was like, oh, I'm in for it. I made good money playing. But Biz has made us what we are. And I feel like he's kind of like, you're out there, like, panicking about the game the next day and trying to stop Aaron Donald.

And he's, like, making business calls. Never get up a sec to him. But yeah, 100%. 100%. Hope he retires. He's going to hear this. Who's the toughest guy you face? Fucking Chandler Jones ate my lunch this year.

Really? Yeah, he ate my shit up for sure. If you give up one sack, is that like a bad game? It's a bad game. No way. I gave up two sacks in that game. And a lot of hits and a lot of pressures. So it was the first game with the dude.

It was the first game coming off like my knee and stuff like that. I think if we went... First game. First game coming off. Probably wasn't ready to do it. So when you're going through a game, which I'm guessing you haven't had many like that, like third quarter of that game are you like fuck I can't really stop them right now

that game like halfway through after the first quarter I was like get me the fuck out of here oh what a panic I can't wait for this shit to end because I know Will's watching with my wife and these boys like a couple of these dudes back here are Bay Titans fans and in my head you're just thinking about all these guys and you're like you're thinking about your family like yo I'm just letting everybody in my life down right now

isn't that nuts I remember having that and I wasn't nearly the level player you were in the NHL but I remember thinking like making a mistake like oh my God my parents, my friends. Like, it's, do you have a time in your life where you're kind of like, I almost look forward to retirement? I'm not trying to say that that's anytime new. Do you know what I mean?

I remember thinking that. Probably that whole entire game. Yeah, no shit. I'm fucking done with this, dude. It's tough. Yeah, it's tough. You know what I've realized? Especially talking with somebody, the less I care, the better I play.

Yeah. If I started caring too much, then it's fucking, so I started getting real, like, I still would watch all my film and take my notes before game. because we have a whole week. Not like you guys who were playing every three days or something like that. So we would go,

I would still focus on all that, but like I would purposely try to be more lax. The way I talked, the way I handle myself in the building and like towards the end of season. Even walking in. Yeah,

I played a whole lot better. Like the last back half of season, like the first eight games, shaky, injury, like it was kind of like this weird like kind of growing a little bit. But you were going through different injuries too.

Like he had like hurt, you like hurt your back. When you get a knee or anything, everything. the hip, then it's the toe, then it's all this crazy shit. My ankle ended in my career and now it's like it's going from there to there to there

you know it, it's awful. It's awful. It's awful. Shoulder for some reason. Honey, I need another massage. She's like, get a Thera gun. Get a Therrigan. Hey, Therogun's fucking awesome though. Yeah, until you have to do it to yourself like backwards like this, trying to get my lower back. Hey, that shit works

though, bro. I'll go outside in on the QL and then I'll lean over the bed and like pop my lower. I'll, like, pop my lower back. back? Oh, great feeling when that crack happens. Yeah. God. Like an orgasm. It's like rushing gas. I didn't know what this rushing gas shit is. Oh, we get some rushing gas in the

NFL. We'll be a Derek Henry I'll run for 4,000 yards. That's what we need. How did you and biz become boys the way you are like now? Is it just you two doing the pod now? No, so R.A. Rear Admiral is him and I started together. His name is Rear Admiral.

His name is Brian McGonigle. Oh, no. Her fucking name. He's Brian McGonagall. He's from... Rear Admiral. He's... Born and raised

from Boston, Massachusetts. He named himself Rear Admiral when he started writing for Barstool, something to do with, like... Anal? Yeah, like, I try to get it... When he tells sex stories,

I want to throw up, so I don't really listen, but he's Rear Admiral. Can you, like, Spark notes me in one of his stories? No. Biz asked him the other day if he had a squirter,

I was like, bleh. I just threw up. But it's Us 3, Grinelli's the producer. And Biz and I, so we met, we were on the Wilkes Bear Scranton Penguins, the Pittsburgh Penguins, A-H-L team. And then Biz got put on waivers. He got claimed by Phoenix. One of my best buddies played on, at the time, Phoenix Coyotes, now it's Arizona. He stayed in touch a little bit, but then, like, what was it? Eight years later, we both were

kind of at the end of the career, we both got trial offers with the St. Louis Blues. and, you know, kind of like, I think it probably happens in the NFL where you get an invite to camp maybe. You get like workouts and they'll fly you in and there'll be a few of you in a position group doing the same workout. So hockey, you get a PTO, they call it. So you basically go to camp on a tryout. You get the per diem every day. And then at the end of the camp, hopefully you get a contract, maybe an HL deal. So Biz and I, we were the two PTO guys.

We knew each other before. We're kind of loud guys. So in the room, we were like, Biz calls us we were the jesters. Like the blues loved us. All the guys loved us. The, you know, the GM, he was like a big fan, but they didn't have room for us. Neither one was for very good. But in that time, Biz and I spent a lot.

We'd just hang out all day. We'd just after practice, we'd go back. We'd go to dinner together. We'd hang out. And we were talking. We were like, we should do something. Like, when we're done, we should just like, our other buddy, Keith Yandel, he said, like, we should just go to the rink in the mornings we retire and just sit in the locker room,

get dressed, but then not go on the ice and just, tell stories and talk to each other. Like some sort of like... That's what funny as hell. Yeah, just like still be in the game but without having a play. And so, um, sure is shit. I retired before him.

I put on Twitter, I want to start a podcast. What do you think? Tagged him. He was still playing. He said, dude, I can't do it yet. You can't do it right till you're done. That's probably why you don't do it during the season. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, and, uh... And hockey's his own bird like we've already talked about. Yeah. Like, it's different. And he was in the AHL. So he's like, dude, and he had just gotten signed by this HAL team. He had nothing going.

And so he's like, I can't right now. I was like, all right, well, whenever you want, you're in. And then this rear admiral who I had met like one time. He reached out. And I was like, all right, I'll do it with you. And I didn't even like meet him for a beer first. Like, looking back, we probably wouldn't have started the pod had I met him for a beer first.

I'm glad I didn't. But we, uh, we hit it off. We did like 10 to 15 episodes. Barstool picked us up. And then... Is he with Barstool while you guys were doing this spot? Yeah, but he was never paid. He was always just writing Bruins blogs.

And then he did a barred. podcast users. And then he did the podcast and so he could put it on the blog, but it wasn't like under the bar still umbrella. And then Dave was like, all right, we want to bring you guys in. And I want to say we did, I'd actually love to know these other than I'm going to say

50 more episodes and then Biz retired, came in and then it was, we took off. So we had gotten to kind of where I think the max of me, R.A. and Granali would have gotten. I think, I don't, I don't know. I had no interest in doing any more, any more work. I was like, this is cool. One day a week, we meet up.

and then Biz came and just it exploded. Put it to them, man. Yeah, so it was cool. It was great. But Biz is like, he's one and a million that guy. He's a funny,

funny human being who's way smarter than people think. Oh, yeah, he's like a hustler. You even hear it when you're on the phone with them. You know what I mean? I'll call you in five or you'll try to call him. He'll ignore right away and be I call you in five. Yeah, he's got this ability where when the call ends,

he hangs up like before. It's like he's always the first to hang up. So now I'm like, as our call is kind of coming around, And I try to beat him and I still can't. Like all of a sudden he's hung up first. I'm like, you motherfucker, I want to hang up on you before you hang up on me. It's a weird thing he's got control of me over.

Do you think that's a smarter thing? Yeah, probably. It seems like you. I'm not exactly a genius. Can you guys tell? No one's going to fight you on that. No one of us is going to fight. I've been wanting to ask.

Like you get drafted as fifth overall. You sign like, I want to say you made like $24 million in the NHL. You get traded a couple times. You end up in the minors. What made you want to continue to play? like after your peak. Like you played on the Olympic team. Yeah.

And then you play in the minors. And then you even travel overseas and playing Russia. Like, what, why did you continue to play when you had already kind of like made your bag and made your living? Especially when you had that talk with your dad too now. At the time,

I went to Russia when I was, I went to Russia when I was 31. I just wasn't done. I was, I didn't, I didn't want to go to Russia. I wanted to be in the NHL, but I also wasn't ready to be like done.

playing. And it was... Because you were scared of the transition? Yeah. I actually was never that scared. I actually was never that scared of the transition because I had money and I knew I was set. But having known now, if I knew now what I knew, like, you know what I'm trying to say,

I would have been scared. But I really wasn't. But I, I, I, now if I'm like, holy shit, like, I actually, I would have kind of been panicked because I know so many guys now that don't, they don't know what to do. And so I just more than anything, I still, like, really loved the game. And I, I didn't love playing it as much because my ankle is so fucked up. And I couldn't, my brain was telling me to do things. And the body just, it couldn't do it. It was so it was hard. But I wasn't ready to just give it up. It's the worst feeling in the world.

I'll never forget. I'll never forget talking to a coach in Edmonton. He's like, you got to be here on this play. We're going over video. I was like, Smitty. This guy, Steve Smith hit a long career. I was like, I was telling myself, like, I was there in my mind. And then you just can't do it. It's just like every athlete realizes it. But it was an awful feeling and it was tough. But when I kept playing and I went to Russia, actually after Russia, I went to Sweden too. I still wasn't done. I was like one more year and it was pretty good money.

I feel like Sweden's a much nicer deal with Russia. That's the other thing. And I was like, Sweden, everyone speaks English. It's nice. And I played two games. And that's when it was real bad. And I retired after the first period of the second game in Sweden. You quit?

You quit mid-game? Yeah, it was mine. So the first game Vante Dave The first team Was on the road And I was like minus two I was horrible

I'm like holy shit What's that mean You're on the goal You're on the ice for two teams The goals The two goals for the team You're playing against scores Yeah

You're on the ice for none Your team scores You know what I mean So if I'm on the ice For three my team score Two day score I'm plus one Yeah So I was minus two

Kind of a liability And then I go out In the first period Of our first What does it make you a liability When there's four of guys Because you can kind of like if you were to watch the game and know the game You kind of know who's main fault it is

It was kind of like my guy You know if Chandler Jones sacks to QB Like there's a bunch of guys in the field but he beat you Yeah Sorry I know what happens I thought I kind of got past that in this conversation you know I didn't forget man I'm gonna look at the video tonight

I keep bringing this up to save my own ass He had five sacks in that game And people think I gave up all five He had five he said a franchise fucking record dude one or two. No, I gave up two. He got five of those fuckers. We got to get on the pod, dude.

I think it would be so funny to have him on. And also, have him, terrified. He smoked that shit he smoked in New England before you have him on. What he's fucking smoked there? Isn't that the guy in New England who got booted from the team

because he was like on, like, smoking that synthetic weed? Was that him? That was Chandler Jones. You would know since you're a pet's fan. I know. He went into a police station with no shirt on.

The brother's a big coat guy. I mean, the family, you know. They had, they have their history. His brother is John Jones in the U. UFC. Yeah, and he got busted with the drugs, right? Yeah. And brother Arthur Jones, who also play in the NFL.

Have you done that synthetic week before? No, I actually have no idea what it is. Fucking terrifying stuff, dude. And people say you can buy it in a gas station. How can you buy that? He used to be able to. I think it was like a big thing in like 2008-19. It's spice.

K-2 spice. But like K-2-Sovia. Smoke it. It's a one-hitter. It's like a one-hitter. So you've done it, Jack. When I was 16, I did it too. Some people were dying.

And they had like, they have like levels like 5x, 10x, 20x, 40x, 80x. That's what Salvia was. And me and a bunch of friends did like a one hitter of like the 5X. And dude, 20 minutes of us just laugh and have it a fucking blast. So like a good thing. Yeah, I was peeing my pants three times. I was laughing so hard. Like you know, you can't breathe.

You got to stop laughing somehow. Like that's how good of a laugh it was. So the next day were like. like let's go to the smoke shop and get some more. And we're like 16. We don't know what the fuck's going on. We're just kind of figuring life out. And we go to this place and we're like 20x,

four times the last. We're for sure going to do it. And so, and the way this shit. I'm doing the math, dude. Yeah. And the way this shit works is like it's like a one hit thing. Look like me. It burns, it burns super fast.

And so what it would be is like, I pass you the pipe, you would smoke it. And then whenever you're done or whatever. So my buddy takes it. We're in this hotel room. like him, me, and the girl I was dating at the time. And he takes it 20x. And he takes it, inhales and, oh, no.

And he lays down. It's like instantly lays down. He's, like, not responsive for, like, 15 minutes. He's like, not, shit. Like, he'll, like, he's, like, not dying, but, like, he's just, like, staring up. I'm doing this, like, mumbling. And, like, won't say a word to us. We're like, hey, Ethan, what the, or brownberry, I called him brownberry.

What's the deal? And then gets up, like, 20 minutes later is like, don't do that. Whatever you do, don't do that. No way. And I'm a loyal cat, so I'm like, well, if you're going to do, I have to do it. I got to fucking do it. You told me not to. I'm loyal.

So you take that. I'm still doing it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like I had something to prove. I fucking take this thing and I hit it and I put it down like that. I put like on the counter. And as I'm turning back to my friends, it's like frame, frame, frame, frame. Done.

And I'm looking around. I can see the whole room around me while looking forward. Like, it's like pictures. You know when you see like a. a collage of pictures. That's what the whole room looked like to me. And then Brown Bear and the girl, Jackie, who I was dating, are, like, kind of staring at me.

So I believe in my head that antlers are coming out of my head now. Oh, you're, this is Chandler's own. I'm freaking the fuck out. So, like, and there's nerve kind of looking at me, like, what's he going to do? Because we just dealt with Brown Bear having a fucking shit show for 15 minutes. But you had to do it because you're loyal. I get up, yeah, what a fucking idiot.

I get up, I run out of the hotel room, and I, like, take off all my clothes. completely naked. That's what he did. Dude, oh, no shit. That's what he did. He went to the police station naked or with no shirt on. Dude, that's why.

So I did that. It was over. I woke up in a bathtub pretty much. You woke up in a bath? Yeah. They brought me in the back in the room after I took all my clothes out. How long? 15 minutes. Oh, wow.

So it's like quick almost. Fast to the point. Yeah, what the fuck are they sell? How are they selling this stuff? I don't think it's like legal anymore. Like they don't let that shit go down anymore. Jesus Christ. What all the kids would do?

because smoking weed was so bad, but like, oh, this stuff's not illegal. You can do this. And I think that was like our thought process. Yeah. Okay, Jack. Yeah, you think? Oh, people would have like seizures.

I think one dude on a football field had a seizure one time. It was a fucking big deal, like our first two years of college. Oh, yeah. I remember bone. Are you guys the same age? He's a year older than me. Yeah, I'm a year old.

You guys met when you were on the Titans? 31. 32. Oh, he's a year. two years old. How did you guys have the idea of this? It's kind of a fun story. Go ahead, Will. So. He needs his body armor.

So when I was playing for the Titans, like, I was kind of like, I would kind of like bring up, like, doing a podcast. Like, Taylor and I actually met over podcasts. Yeah, we loved the Joe Rogan podcast. And I was, like, I was like, me and Mike Campanaro. And Taylor, we, like, have a little. No. Oh, okay.

We had, like, a little breakfast club. And I think I was talking about, like, Ben Greenfield, maybe. Taylor and I were talking about performance or recovery. We had like a breakfast club where we would always sit down and talk and hang out. And we good? No, that's just fucked up. No one would ever have to tell biz to do that. I'm the new biz.

And so I would, Taylor and I would talk about recovering stuff because we do the song and cold tubs and shit after I was like, bro, you got to listen to Ben Greenfield on podcast. It's like a biohacker. He's like a biohacker for like performance or recovery. And then we're talking about like a Joe Rogan pod. So we kind of got to know each other over podcast. But you want to say something? Well, I want to say that the Titans were doing this podcast. They had the TOP. OTP.

The official Titans podcast. And they wanted me to go do it. And I was like, Will, you should come with me. I just joined the team. We just met like two days ago. And people are tweeting when Will got signed like, yo, Will Compton and Taylor want to be best friends. No way.

I remember looking up being like, I'm excited to see what this dude's about. Because Will had like the, who's the WWE guy that does the beer, more beer, tequila. Steve Austin. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry, dude. Oh, Cole, baby.

And they had like clips of ham and I would always do stupid shit also. So they're like, these two are like a match made in heaven. And I had to go do that and we did that. It was a fucking blast. No way. Like I had always like... What year is this? This is 2018.

Okay, so podcasts relatively still new. I mean, like... We started April 19. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And so that year I wasn't getting a lot of burn. I wasn't playing a lot. I was on special teams.

I was a backup. And the guy ahead of me, like, you know how it is. You need it. As a death player, you need a guy ahead of you to. get injured to kind of get in there and play. And that didn't happen for me. So low-key, I was thinking about real estate. I was thinking about, you know, what might I do because I was 29 years old.

I was going to be 30 next year, an undrafted guy, white, like, you know, I'm going to be a minimum contract guy from here all now. That white thing is a deal, too. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Being a white grinder. Yeah. Racist.

In the NHL, it would be great. I was kind of thinking about podcasts. I was kind of thinking about podcasts a lot more. And I remember being like Taylor's basement. We were just hanging out one night. And him and his wife were like, you know, my wife are like, you know, my wife. wife would tell me to do it, but you know, like your wife tells you. He's kind of like, bitch telling you.

But when somebody else tells you, you're like, okay. And Taylor and Taylor were like, yeah, I mean, you should look at doing it. Like, you know, start writing it up and stuff like that. And so I remember the thing about doing I was kind of off and on it. I went to a radio show one night and I was on the phone with Taylor. I remember I was driving. It was night. It was raining.

And I was about to pull up to go do the radio show with Amy or whatever. Yeah. And I was telling Taylor, I was like, hey, I think I'm going to do it. And he's like, man, I'll do it with you if you want me to. and I was like, bro, that would make me feel so much better. Is that when I thought you asked me to be on it? I think I was just talking about it. I might.

No, no, I'm actually, I'm not even trying to. I think I was thinking or trying to talk myself. You might have been like, come on, Taylor. Because when you told the story in the past, you're like, I really want to do it, but you'd feel more comfortable if you had somebody to do it with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is true. Doing it alone would be impossible tough. In a couple of my peers.

Now I love doing, like, solo pods, like, doing every once in a while. I think it's a blast. You can just say dumb jokes and fuck around. Yeah, I think it's fun. Wow. But if I had to do one every week like this, it'd be a fucking hard deal. Yeah. And so you kind of know how you need your peers that kind of influence you too.

Like a couple guys in the locker room was like, hey, comp, you should have your own podcast. I'm thinking, oh, shit, I've been talking about it. Like, man, maybe I should do it. And then when Taylor's like, I'll do it with you, I was like, all right, I'm fucking in, bro. So I'm, like, getting stuff up. And then in January comes the season over, we lose on a winning in game. Oh, you guys are Colts. I'm like lining up to meet with people.

I'm looking all the pods I want it to look like and what I want it to look like on social media and all the influences I've had with podcasts. Which is like the opposite of what it looks like now. But this is great. The podcast you want to start? Yeah, the din and stuff like that. But as far as two shares, like this is a fighter and the kid set up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know what you mean. And so January comes and tells us like, hey, I'm going to go to California for a few weeks or for a couple months maybe. No, I said a couple weeks at first. End up being until April. Yeah, it ended up being until April. And I was like, bro, if you start this thing.

I was like, I was the real San Diego, not the Russian one. You know what I was feeling myself out there. I got to get out. I'm going to train. I'm going to do this. And, you know, Taylor and I just known each other for like half a year at that point. Yeah. And so I kind of don't know what our offices are like.

We had just trained in the summer. But I'm like, all right, bro, you are you sure you want to do this podcast? Like, you promise you want to do this podcast. I'll wait on you that, you know, I'll wait for you forever. But I was like, I'll wait on you. But if not, I want to get going because I don't know if I'm going to be playing next year, based on the year I just had. And I got a strike while the iron's hot.

And so he's like, I'll do it. I was like, all right, I waited. he came back. I was dabbling with the idea of calling it the Den podcast. I was in the like, you know, I still, I still like having the one-on-one conversations, but wolves and shit. But anyway. Not actually like, no, like.

Who thought of the bus? This, this, this broad out of Chicago. Were you going to say you? Crazy because I thought of the bus. But go ahead. Oh, Taylor, you thought of the bus idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my fault. The bus idea.

I thought you're, I thought you were talking about the name. I thought you were talking about the name. I got on. Yeah. Bust him with the boys. I thought there was a, uh, yeah, I thought there was a, uh, our thing. No, because remember at first,

we didn't want to do anything for the boys related because... Hey, I'm glad you're here to find this out of this. Remember, we didn't want the boys on the team thinking we were kind of running with something that we were all doing like together type of thing. Yeah, because we had this whole thing going during the season was like, we're for the boys.

We're all for the boys. Yeah, but not the way we were. Okay. You know what I'm saying? We're different. We're the same but different, dude. We're like mean girls, dude. Every day we were.

Every day we were pink. I was mean with the producers at the time that they were going to help us. and he's like hey what do you think about this bus like it's out back in the show to me i was like i don't fucking want to do it i was like taylor's gonna fucking love this when he sees it though so let's just wait till he gets there taylor comes he's like oh that's fucking rad dude let's this is awesome yeah it goes it wasn't like this at all like it wasn't like this is at all this stuff like it wasn't like this is a bused yeah but you guys got now you got the Chevy you got whistlepay you guys are killing it Yeah, most durable, reliable vehicle out there. There goes, bro, like, I'll throw 10 grand into it. And he goes, if it works, then that's fucking awesome. They think they can try and make it work, then that's good.

And if not, I'll just keep in my backyard. Like, it's fucking cool. And, you know, I'm sitting there overthinking, kind of stress. Like, all right, let's just fucking do it because I'm ready to get going. And so we do it, man, and we start ripping a couple episodes. Like, I mean, it looked way different. We were in the heat back then in, like, the 98-degree weather. Some gal was like, when we were thinking of names,

we were talking about, like, two boys, one bus for two peas in a pot. We were trying to come up a different shit Fees and a Fawn you both would be fucking bankrupt right now But somebody was like Bustle with the Boys And we were kind of like We were getting to where we were ready to shoot our episodes And we were kind of like, we also thought

Bustle with the boys was kind of like stupid We thought it at first And remember Tailing goes Yeah I thought of stuff cooler And we were both like Yeah Taylor does have that influence on us too Yeah yeah yeah Yeah, yeah

And she'll she can shit on people With the best of them Yeah But in this situation Like all this stuff She's like yeah you know could be better. It gets in your head fast.

It's in your head quick. It's your fucking melon. I remember the episodes when this is fucking we just took off from there. Whatever you're about to say. Okay, never mind,

go ahead. Any name you hear at the beginning, it's never going to be like, yes, that's it. Yeah. I feel like, because I remember like, already thought of spit and chicklets.

I was like, I don't know. What does spit and chicklets mean? Like, because... Spit and teeth? You're shooting this shit, but you're losing teeth playing hockey. Spitting, that's kind of what I said. I was like,

I don't know, man. But I don't know. I feel like what I'm more meant. There's never going to be a name. You're like, yes, we're in. Right. I feel like it's like going to be like, okay, yeah, we can work with that. Right, right, right.

People got to make the name. Yeah, yeah. For real. No, I mean. It's a cool-ass-ass-name, though. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

So is bus with the boys. I love it busting in the boys. I mean, I think that I think that it's cool you want to be. Have you guys, have you guys gotten into the interview and retired NFL? Like, how do you have an interview every episode or is it? We, sometimes we have an interview. interviews sometimes we do just ourselves like i think in midseason are you just talking on your own since he's kind of no there's usually somebody on kind of we've gotten lucky the last couple years because last

year we had covid when i was on the titans sale and i were both on the tithes fortunately we were winning so you know winning you feel better doing the podcast oh if you're losing if we're losing we probably wouldn't i mean who knows yeah but taylor unfortunately had torn his acl but covid-wise players couldn't be around each other so taylor would run them solo and we would look at zooming guys in but we kind of hate the Zoom thing. It sucks. But it's also like you can get whoever you want, right? That's how we do it. And I actually, that million, million dollars worth of game, another boss, they're crushing you, bro.

They don't do one interview, not in person. They travel to people. Yeah. And it's like, I wish, but like, we'll probably have to start dealing if we want to. Works and like, you know, I, I don't know. It's hard to do. But ideally, like, an interview on Zoom compared to in person is a different planet. It sucks in Zoom.

And when you do the, like, you want to say something, he's trying to say something. You interrupt each other on the. assuming. And God forbid there's a lag in the internet. Exactly. And then you all talk and then everyone stops talking. And then someone goes. It's like, what are we playing?

Red, like green light? What the fuck is this? Moment where everyone's looking at each other like. Yeah. Online. And in your head you're like, we're going to cut the shit out of this part. Like make sure it's no fucking dead areas. Say something. Say something.

Yeah. And then you go to say something. Will says the same thing. Yeah. But this makes it sound like you're tough to reel in. Yeah, I am. Hey, you really are me. I am.

He really is me at the pod. Me and you were like the same. and I said it to Biz and Biz and I will will lifelong be like really good friends because I've told, we're always really honest with each other and I told Biz, I said, Biz,

like I've made money. I love golf. I have two young kids. I love this podcast and I've actually gotten more into it the past like couple years. But I'm not going to be like changing everything to like make this work. Like you let's plan stuff out and I'll be there. But in terms of like,

the way you are and how you're willing to go anywhere and do anything at a moment's notice, I'm not like that. But I think because we're honest with each other, it works. So there's times he's frustrated with me, no doubt, but that's just kind of how it is. Because in the end, like, I'm not going to sacrifice kind of my happiness for work because of the money I made before. Even though I love my job, it's just like, I think that makes me better at my job, too. What do you do besides this? Play golf.

Oh, that's it. Yeah. I hear you go on an annual bad edge. trip with the boys. I'm talking PJs, helicopters picking you up. Yeah, it's kind of gotten hurt since COVID, but we have a bunch of European, Swedish guys, we go over to Europe, get helicopters to the course, it's sick.

Then, like, at the end of Scotland one year, Henrik Zetterberg, Nicholas Baxter and Eric Carlson got us, like, a big jet, like a big jet to go to Spain. We finished the trip off there. From where? From Scotland. Oh, fuck. We went to Majorca. It was great.

Yeah, that's fucking hard. Yeah, it's legit. It was awesome. So I will say, though, like, I've gotten more into, like, every year that goes on, I'm more into the pod. I think because, like, you can only play so much golf, I love it. But I also am like, all right, let's kind of try to make a legacy here with the pod and try to do what we can. But it's so cool. You guys know, it's a lot of people think it's very easy.

And I don't really blame them. Like, dude, you show up to work one day a week. I'm like, well, we have one show a week, but it's not really one day a week because you're preparing for the show throughout the week. You're doing interviews that we banked

throughout the week. Then when you do the show, you know, we record two, three hours. Our shows are long now. They're like three to four hours. They're long as fun. Yeah, they're long, which is... You guys were doing two a week.

Why wouldn't you split the three hour? Like, why wouldn't you do two a week? Why'd you go back to one? Because two week and... Because every time we get on, no matter what, it's two and a half hours. Three hours. So if it's three hours,

why don't you do like an hour or half and then do an hour and a half on Wednesday. That would be a good argument, but hockey, it's tough because hockey, like, you, we go into the main stories we have and we end up going off onto tangents, but if you were to do two times a week in hockey, which we did, there's not that much going on. It's kind of hard. There's a lot of times on the second episode during the week,

you're like, oh, we don't have much here. And so I guess we could kind of go a little shorter each time, but it's worked out better, I think. Our listeners have gone up since we went to once a week, and there's, you know, you get complaints, some matter what online, but it is what it is. We don't get any complaints.

No shit. People love our shit. They know you'll dummy them. They know that I'm got my head taken off by a Calgary player. Those keyboard warriors. When it's football season? Keyboard warriors are crazy. No one fucking gets after me.

No one gets after me more than keyboard warriors. On this pod? Isn't it nuts? People fucking love it. It's fucking wild. So I used to, so Twitter, I got on Twitter in 2011. And, um, hilarious by the way.

I love you, you're a big love and fucking calling people clowns. I think you're hilarious. I appreciate that. But I got on it. And then I really started struggling in Edmonton, kind of the lowest part of my career. As my career ended, and people in Canada, like, it's fucking crazy. And so they would torture me. And I would get so mad.

I would get so fucking mad. And now when people chirp me and, like, say they hate me on the pod, I don't care. It's so weird. Like you said, like, I used to get so mad about the haters in hockey, but on the pod, I'm like, I don't give a fuck what you say. I don't block anyone anymore. But people I get now, they're like, hey, I love the Paul. Will you unblock me? I'm like, no, dude, you're the only fucking person that's staying blocked, you prick.

Because you told me I sucked at hockey. It's the only thing I cared about. It's weird to play in a professional sport and being on Twitter, because if someone tweets at me and says, oh, you're a dog shit person. It's like, well, this person doesn't know me. Who fucking knows? But like, if it's Sunday and I play a game,

people get to see how good I really am at football. So that's something they can really say that at one point, and I've gotten away from a little bit, like, can fucking hurt. Oh, dude, really hard on yourself. Really, really. I had a trash game and then you fucking refresh your thing. And it's like, you fucking suck. Just something that simple.

From a dude with 12 followers. I know. It didn't matter. With the fucking egg, the little egg. A damn fucking egg, dude. You just want to cry. I remember, I remember dreading. I remember I was minus three in a game in Edmonton.

It was a Saturday night hockey night in Canada games. Minutes three, dude. It was fucking liability. I know it too, yeah. I remember dreading. Click it on Twitter. That probably means mentally I should maybe delete the thing if I'm like

going like this to like slide down I'm like piece of shit scumbag pussy ankles suck on this you blah I was like oh my God I wanted to cry I just go home and get ice cream and drink It was tough I'd have a buddy we get on the plane after the game And you know we just lost or something

Be like hey his name was Spencer Long I'd be like hey Spencer what are you doing he's like I'm just going to go fucking punish myself on Twitter real quick Type in his name and just fucking feed How bad he played And I'll say that Like maybe it, well, not maybe. It's definitely because I was on the other side of getting the hate.

But I would never, ever write to somebody. Like, you, like, you suck. You sucked at this game. I think it's so odd that people, like, feel the need. I have good, good buddies who go at, like, Patriots players. Like, you fucking suck on Twitter. I'm like, dude, why? What are you doing?

Like, how weird is that to write that to someone, I think? Yeah. Like, it's, like, almost something about them in a way. Like, you want to, like. You have a weird sense of entitlement. They have a weird sense of entitlement. Like, I've been a fan since this, for this long league, I deserve this. Like, yeah, listen.

Sorry, bro. Teams are going to thrive or not without you, Bub. Yeah. I hate to tell you. I used to tell my guys in the bar. I remember I was eating a steak in Edmonton. And I was struggling, like I said, and I was eating a steak. I'm at the fuck.

And I'm like, this guy comes up. He's like, on the shoulder. And he goes, like, you're fucking horrible. I'm like, dude. In person? You got to respect that, though. I'm like. Someone told me that it was horrible in person?

Hey, you know, I'm like, bro. I'm trying to eat this filet mignon. Can you leave me alone right now? And then I told him, I go, you should have shot more fucking pucks, dude. I'm sorry you didn't make it. I know you played junior B. But don't be mad at me because I made it and you didn't. You think I stink.

I started doing this thing on Instagram and Twitter. When I get a DM from somebody and they're like, you fucking suck. Like you're this or that. I'll DM them back and be like, hey, I'm sorry you feel that way. Like I'm just, I'm coming back from a knee. And every single one, I probably done this 75 to 100 times. You love you. Everyone's like, hey, man, I'm just trying to motivate you.

I fucking love you. I can show you countless fucking DMs. You should be like, you pussy. Yeah, fucking dead. You're a little bitch. Just keep saying it. Fucking sheep, dude. Yeah, it's crazy.

It's a, it's a brutal thing. The whole social media is, it's just hard for athletes. And I know people have no sympathy whatsoever for people who make all this money. But it's like, when you hear constantly how bad you are, and the problem is, people also really take. into the effect when you see how good you are because you light it up, you're so good, you're lighting up, it's like, well, if you're reading that, like, you're going to read the same stuff when you're

doing bad. And it's wild because you can see 10 things that say you're a stud. And the one. And you see one that's like, you fucking suck and you're like, damn. I know. And this dude's fucking butt fuck norah Kentucky probably. Living in his parents' basement, I care about this dude's opinion. I know. Girl, whatever. I know. It's crazy.

It's crazy. It's like the same too. Live for the Cheers, Die by the Booze. Kind of like what you were saying. Like, you're kind of like wanting to feed your ego. people saying you're awesome. Yeah, you're good. You're good enough. You're good enough. It just tanks you because you're like,

you're like living the high life too when everybody's celebrating you. The thing that it's, you can tell like it's so kind of fake because I'll have, all of a good game and all people are shitting on me and it won't hurt near as much.

Because you know. I know, I'm like, oh. But if I had a couple fuck-ups and someone says something, I'm like, damn, that I play that bad. Well, how about when you play bad in your mind? But people are like, good game.

You're like, no, dude, yes. What are you talking about? Yeah, these guys are no fucking shit. Pitch me off even more, you love. Well, you probably don't even, you probably don't say none because you're like, well, at least it's the kind of thing I play. First off, I'm like that one guy. Yeah, hey, retweet that motherfucker.

Hey, coach, Jerry, Jerry the kid from Twitter said I was good, so sorry. The prayer emojis, like, quote tweeting it. I'll tell you what's tough, too, like, when you're, like, trying to continue to be on Twitter and then you don't play a lot. And people just fucking ream you for being a benchwoman. Yeah. I'll, like, drop a photo of me just standing on the sideline. You came photos from this last week. Shout out Roman.

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Good. It's straight, yeah. It's actually really good. Based on games played. Oh, you're getting a nice pension? Yeah, you get it for credit. If you max it out, they spend $2 every one you spend. Oh, no, you guys are talking about different things.

Pension, you're talking about 401K. Okay, what's a pension? Pension is like what you get for credited years. So since I've played nine seasons, that equates to like $60 something hundred dollars a month once you turn 55. What? Yeah, bro. Oh, you're going to get a boatload. You're like, you're like 5,000 something, but you'll bump up to like 60.

I want to say mine's like $6,500 right now when you turn 55. When you're 55, you're going hard. I'll probably be in 501K. I've been asleep like four times. He got gone, so you better get that pension. I was telling J.P. the other day we're driving and I'm like, I'm like, yo, dude. Like, sometimes, like, the first three weeks after the season, I'm fucked. like talking is more difficult for me.

I stutter a lot more. And I'm telling J.P., this is we're coming from something. Emma, does that ever happen to you? He just kind of looks up the window and goes, nah, man, that's sad. That's that fucking crazy? And like, literally, I was like right at the end of the three weeks with like when I was talking about it.

And it's been like, what's been a week since, right? It feels so much better now. It's those three weeks. I'm like, okay, I'm cool now. But when I first end the season and my body's like, okay, we're done. And it kind of just like lowers it. Your luggage.

Yeah. You fucking no doubt. Okay, we gotta talk about hockey jerps. This dude's fucking putting out gold right now. Hey, he's in a vaughan right now. Oh, he's fucking a hockey dude. When you said that to him, you were hoping to agree. It's like when you're playing, are you ever?

100% percent. Man, I'm so tired today. Like, just hoping the guy. I'd be like, I feel great. It's like, no, don't say that to me. Really, dude? I got great sleep less than I was like, fuck you, bud. I was hoping you tell me the same.

How did you guys meet your goon squad over here? Dude, the squad is kind of like just a bunch of shit had to happen. It's a hog posh? We had two guys with us in the beginning that were good dudes. They were sorry. They didn't get it though. They had a different idea of a different path.

They had a different idea of what we wanted. Yeah. And then we had a, uh, we started finding a new production guys and we found one guy to come in and had all the promises in the world, right? All the way. He had me and Taylor in a coffee shop.

And Taylor and I'm like, oh, fuck him. I'm sitting there walking like on billions, bro. Fucking billions are coming out of world. Taylor had to like post a story or something. We're like, let's fucking go. Yeah, he's like, everything you didn't know. It's like, he was showing me some basic shit. He comes and the guy in the back,

left over there, Blas, was with him. Photographer. And this dude, I think we did like three or four episodes with them and they were like, all right, we want like, $8,500 bucks. And we're like, we can't fucking do that, dude. They wanted you to pay them that much. Yeah. It was a shitload of money. And so... What?

I don't fucking know. He copy and paste the dudes' bios from Wikipedia as like the... Oh, it's like for an interview kind of? No, like, but even when we post the YouTube, like in the description, he put like the dude's Wikipedia as like the description. like he just cut corners.

He's one of those dudes that would fly to L.A. laying the plane rent out of Ferrari just so he can fucking take pictures and post. That's a pretty specific version, right? Yeah. So Bloss hit us up. I don't know how exactly Bloss and Will we're talking and he goes like, hey, I love what you guys are doing.

I love to help out however I can. Nice. And Bloss is also a cop too. So he like does this kind of just to be up with the boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We hand him the cash when he pulls us over. Right. We hold him the cash and we fucking hand him this.

Yeah. And you're good. Fucking doubt. We had this one, there's a piece of paper up there. Like, if you look in the back, there's a piece of paper and it says, I woke up today feeling it was time to tighten the fuck up. That guy named was named Matt Neely. And he was like, dude, the position we're in right now, Neely would have fucking loved.

We've said it all the time. He'd thrive at a bar stool personality. He was thrive, dude. He loved Barstool, too. And he was huge Titans fan, like over the top, big meme guy. And he was with us. And so it was kind of. Have to go love him.

Yeah, I thought. I thought, rightfully so, though. I couldn't trust him because he was like such a huge Titans fan. I was like, I don't want, I don't want this guy to be around my shit. He was on the internet 24-7. I would understand that. You're just like, dude, I don't know, I'm on the Titans. There's something to get you here.

Well, and like, I don't want to like say something. You know when you're frustrated when you're playing hockey. And then you're just like, man, fuck this guy or this coach. And it's like, you're kind of just saying it to get it out and then you move on. Like, I don't want that to stick with him. So I kept my distance. And right around like junior's, July of the year, what year was that?

19? It was 19. Yeah, it was 19. Right around junior July 19, like, I really started like, okay, this dude's like, I trust him. He's a boy, I trust him, I liked him, so we really started getting close. They were really close. And so I was suspended in 19, and he would come over during the games, and he would just

be so hilariously, um, self-deprecating and talk about how, like, if the Titans don't score here, he's going to kill himself and all this, like crazy shit. He's so hilarious, dude. Barstool meme type guy. He would have murdered. He'd probably be at HQ right now, killing it. Yeah. And then in October, or was it, yeah, it was October.

Like, right when I got back to start playing, Will Com and he, like, passed away in the shower. No way. Yeah. Fucking passed away, bro. It was tough, man. Holy shit. How old was he? 20?

Like our age, right? He would have been 20. Oh. He was like a Titan fan legend. Like, every Titan fan kind of knew who Matt Neely was. Yeah. Oh, that sucks. He had this fucking profile picture of him as a frock.

Oh, bro. He was so funny. You were always close that goddamn frog. Especially because he kind of like built your trust. Like at the beginning, maybe you're like, I don't know. It really hurt when he went because like. Sorry to hear that. It makes me, I wish I trusted him earlier because we only got like three good months together.

Where I like trusted him, we like really grew a relationship. Well, what you guys have now is awesome. It's really cool to see this. It's a good experience. I'm glad I could be a part of this. Oh, you think it's over? Yeah. I don't know.

I got nowhere to go. I got the game at 3. tomorrow night. Oh, you said you're done, bro? And then that's when we. stuff that's out here. I thought there may be some tough here for us. Let's take a sip of the rye.

Let's take a sip of the whistle pig. We can't just fucking have it sit in there and not have a little sip. I will say whistlepink. I don't even a sponsor, but holy shit, whistle pig. This is great. We all just get super quiet as we pass around. No, I knew telling me that pussy-ass sip, bitch.

I was thinking it. I was thinking it. I don't drink a whole lot. I do love whistle pig, though. I'm going to drink some of this still because I've had. Dude, it's smooth, too. It's good. It's really good.

It's not a big deal. So the only time I really drink whiskey is when I go play golf in Europe. We all put it in flask. It makes us feel so like we're playing golf in Europe. This wind, there's rain. You're drinking whiskey. Stop shutting them out, dude. I'm not shutting them out.

You're not good. You're holding the bottle. I've had two shots of it. So I'm going to keep drinking it. Pink Whitney is like, so we found out that two of the biggest markets. Two of the biggest markets was, you can set up that Uber. Was Memphis, Tennessee and Jackson, Mississippi? Wait, what are you talking about?

There was a month or like a couple months span where two of the biggest markets selling Pinkwood, it was Memphis, Tennessee, and Jackson, Mississippi. Like, people have no clue what chicklets is, who I am. Like, it's just, it's a pink vodka. It's like... You guys have been murdering it, too, right? Like, I want to say business tell me,

and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but... I won't even know. The Rock came out with his Taramana, first. Oh, yeah, we've done to talk about, talking about we did all this stuff and business like, yo, we fucking tripled the rock stuff. The Rock says he's the biggest selling. The Spirit launched from, like, some kind of time.

Yeah, we've changed the game. We've changed the game. Whitney still over time on us? Has so much success with it. You want to know a funny story? Big. I do love The Rock, though, and I love for him this on this bus. Want to something funny?

I don't know if that. Want to know something funny? So we went, we did the taste test in Boston. And they bring us in. So we did the taste test. And we go in and Biz and I and my wife was there. And they have like eight different options for us to taste. So the first one, I'm like, that's pretty good.

Fuck, I like that one. Second one, I'm like, no, boom, that's done. Not the second one. Third one. Okay, boss. So let's put it near the first one. And as we get to the eighth one, it's like, Like, all right, we got, we got four that are options, four that are brutal.

Let's go to the four that are options. We go through one, I still like. Two, actually, I don't think so. Three, let's get that with one. Four, we're done. So we got one and three. We got two options. And we get to one and three, boom, boom.

We're getting pretty fucked up testing this thing. And so we finish. We're like, that's it. Number three, boom. That's what we're going with. They're like, well, they were all the same. I'm like, what the fuck? You're fucking lying.

I'm like, what do you mean that all the same? And they're like, those are all the same drink. We already picked. I'm like, ah, it's my fucking name. I didn't get to pick. Yo, that's so funny. I remember saying NB. I'm like, that's not going to be a fucking video.

That will not be a video. No, no. I think I said it on the pod. No, first thing we've said it on the pod. I said on check. The video is like, edited. Can we get the actual video to put with this clip? Oh, yeah, for sure.

It's fucking hilarious. We're like, no, no, no. The first one was way better. The dude backs like same vodka, dickhead. Yeah, that's true. They did say that, that the ice that they were in there was melting it and watering it down. But either way. So when you guys got these bottles, how did you sell them so fast?

How did you like market that so well? We talked about it on the pod. And then what happened was we got lucky in a way that you want to get it out to everyone as quick as possible. But the fact that we couldn't get into Canada, Canada has these crazy, especially Ontario. They have like, it's the LCBO where they regulate all the liquor that comes into the province. What is LCBO can come for? Thank you very much. So they like, it's really controlled board of Ontario.

It's really controlled. So, but all of a sudden because it was in Pennsylvania or it was in Massachusetts and the few states it was in and we're talking about it and people putting it on social that like the fact that they couldn't get it like helped us. Yeah. You know, where it was like it was really building up like, we want that. We want that. Yeah. So I think that that really kind of helped. and then, you know, Canadians are drunks.

So you guys are monsters in Canada with like probably listenership. I think our listeners are 50-50. I think we've, yeah, it is a good thing. It is a good thing. You guys are like the best. Although I've been ripping on Canada for their COVID shit. It's a pathetic country right now. But it's still 50-50, I think, for listenership, I would say.

That is tough. My wife's from BC. Is she? Yeah. Does she live? No. No, I wouldn't say so. Oh, fuck.

Bro, that's so fucking funny. Who's you guys dream in? you. You. It's done. We fucking did it, dude. We're done after this. I appreciate that. I'll come on anytime. Anytime he's playing, he doesn't want to come on. You call me. I'll hop on for a week. I'd love to. Just know in the fall during football.

Dude, you basically told you that he's so hard to get a hold of. No, but no. I do this. People who I'll be like, hey, anything you need for me, just let me know, just call me. And I call them and they call me and I don't, I'm like, I'm busy. Yeah. Taylor was like in Europe and drinking whiskey. Let's see how similar we are. Are you bad at drinking? I mean, I'm drinking.

Jesus, are you bad at texting people back? I get texts. I don't return text. But do you do it? I read the text and then I'm like, oh, I'll respond later. Yeah, and you put the phone down. Or I'll be in the responding. I don't mean to.

I'll be responding and I'll put it down. And then I'll go back to their text four days later. And I have the text written out. It just hasn't sent. I went to text the guy the other day and I saw it at a text from August 12th. I was like, sorry, I missed this.

this, which I think I did, but I'm like, this guy's gonna be like, how the fuck do you miss it? Well, I know, but like, do I have a couple friends that are worse than me and it pisses me off. I don't take it personal because I know how I am. It is, it is a scumbag move, but I don't, I don't mean it. It's just, it's just like the kids sometimes,

the kids get in the way. I'm living on my children. I'll do your kids. Four and one. Taylor does too. Hey, I'm four and one. Let's fucking go. Hey, we are a lot of light.

two girls two boys they can get after it oh don't find me okay let's not you don't want me as like a uh what is that imagine if we were in-laws what do we would be yeah i don't know father fathers yeah let's go no i would i'd be i had to watch your sons i had to sit in this couch with them fucking sleeping middle I never put I wasn't we had our kids when I was retired it's got to be hard playing

with kids oh no uh it depends when you have kids if you have kids if you have kids right before season. Or they born in the season? They were born, my kids were born in July. So, like, the first six months is their life. I'm like, Loki, not around. And the tough, the first six months is like,

Hi, I'm dad. Such a shitty move. I'm kind of my least favorite part of having kids. Like that first six months, like, the sleeping. My wife's a fucking all time. She's going to see this. So I've, like, gas up.

You guys get a night nurse? All time. We have a night nurse every once in a while. But she gets up with those fucking kids, dude, and crushes it. They're legends. They're legends. They're a thing during the season.

Legends. Absolutely. It's amazing because I get it. I get two hours with those kids and I'm like, oh my God. You do eight hours a day with them? Yeah. The hardest thing about having kids, the hardest thing about having kids while you're playing is when you spend six months you don't really see them because you're so focused on football or hockey,

when the season ends, you're in. You're like integrating back into their life. Yep. Yeah. And it's like you kind of don't know where you fit. Yeah. And there's like a couple week. period where like I had this anxiety because I think I have to be doing something.

Like, why am I at the house all day? I have to go work out. I have to go do this. And it's like, you got nowhere to be. You have nowhere to be right now. You're going to be right. And then it's like, you know, I tell my daughter or something. She's like, Mommy says, okay.

I'm like, fuck. Really? All right. Well, go ahead then. Then she's played me and she actually wasn't allowed to do that. Like I got played by my oldest all the time. Win Rebel. That's her, my oldest name.

Man, dude. Oh, what a name. Oh, yeah, all time. Wyn N. E. Oh, I like. that. Yeah, her grandfather.

She's named after her, uh, Tayloran's grandfather. I, I love the, well, I shouldn't say I love. Like, I get home from these work trips to go on.

We probably do, um, like a four or five night trip. I don't know, six times a year. We got our Shudaki tournaments. We go do interviews. And so I miss the kids so much.

But when I get home after the four or five nights where you got your own bed, you're sleeping in, I get home. I'm like, game on. It's like, it's hard, right?

Like, it's kind of the end of, of the season for you where you, you know, works like difficult, but then you get home, you're like, full-time dad mode. This is fucking impossible. Yeah. But it's the best. You start playing like the victim mode in your head where it's like, why don't I get a break?

Oh, yeah. Everybody else used to do this. Everybody else gets to do that. Like my shoulders sick. You don't even play hockey anymore, you pussy. Yeah. Does that to your face? Oh, yeah.

My wife calls me a pussy every day of my life. You bring everyone down with your mood about your aches and pains. Nobody gives a fuck. I'm like, you think you hit him with you like this house? You like this house? Your ex and page paper for this house? I'm like my past is paid for this vacation, honey. Dude, that's so fucking true.

Before we get off, talk about your relationship with Dave Portnoy. Hey, him. Oh, he's a peasant. Dave's, uh... You're always getting on a show and you guys just go toes, all the fucking... Yeah, I think we're kind of similar in terms of, like, really loving the, like, going at one each other, or not even going at one another, going at anyone.

I kind of enjoy, like, the... I'd rather have a podcast where we're going at each other than we're like, oh, lovey-dovey. And so he's kind of like that. But I remember I first got to know him through, like, Twitter. Like, I was a big fan of Barstool, like, thought he was hilarious. And then started somehow, like, you know, maybe a couple tweets back and forth to each other. And then I remember being like, all right, well, he wrote me one time.

He's like, when are you going to come work for me? I'm like, I'm not going to fucking work for you. Like, I took it, like, personally. Yeah. And I think that he probably. saw like, all right, well, I'm going to give it to this guy. He's going to give it back. And it's a pretty good thing.

But then as Barstle grew and grew and, like, everyone just sucks his dick and kisses his ass. It's like, fuck you, dude. You're 5'7. You couldn't. You were good in high school baseball, but you talk about how athletic you were. But I'm 6'4. I'll dumb you in any sport. And you're trying to big time everyone.

So I love the guy. But I know in every aspect besides, like, maybe comedy and, like, growing a business, I'm better than him. Seriously, I'm better than him in everything, except for, like, growing a business or, like, he's pretty funny. But there's times I can even go tow to toe with him in funniness. But I love him. In funniness. In funniness.

Like, you want to be funny to do you go so weird? We were talking about, like, humor and, like, if you're good at it or not. I also remember, like, so I was a, like, like I said, I was, I love bar still. So I was driving the old Milton office. I actually live, like, probably a mile or two from there now. But at the time, like, all my buddies were in, grew up. in Milton and I ended up living there so I was driving through there and I saw him walking

across the street there's like a hardware store across from their old office and I was like Portland oh you fucking pigeon and he's like carrying like what he used to eat all the time Panera and he's carrying and he's like looking around he's like who's that uh this fucking guy

but I've always thought I've always thought he's one of the funniest people bro he's one of the funniest people in the world and so I've actually you know been really thankful for him I've told him that too like because without bar stools, it's what everyone says. Like, oh, Chickles is a monster.

I'm like, Chickles is nothing without Barstool. I can openly admit it. Because we had these, their, their fan base as listeners. You know, it's like, if we're... Stoley's your fucking hard. Yes, stooleys are unbelievable. The most loyal fan base in the world. And I think that with Dave, like, he wants guys to give it back to him.

Like, he doesn't want people to kiss his ass. But naturally with how big he's become, that's just how it is. But fuck him. Ode his will kind of kiss his ass. I mean, it's tough to be. watch. Oh, shit. Well, you just nudged over at me, dude? No, I didn't. We don't want that. It's a hard deal to watch them. He was on this podcast.

No, I think it's... It did all right. You know? He was on the bus? I think I'm just cool with everybody. You're just a nice guy. Yeah. No, actually, as far as... God damn, I keep going back and forth on you. I'm flip-lopping hard. Go ahead. You can go on the other life. As far as, like, a camaraderie guy, like a locker room guy, there's no one better. I've ever met in my life.

Who gets along with everybody. Even if he doesn't know somebody or he knows he's met them before, he's like, what's up dude good to see you and like dab him up and like you can just tell that person's like yeah will loves me that's like will doesn't even know will doesn't even know you at all oh what are you talking about you i'm complimenting you yeah but you're like i don't give a fuck about the person no you care about people but it's like you when you come in with that energy it's not like you're giving that energy because there's that special to you he's lying to you right now he's out side i went to shake his hand he goes no get in here buddy yeah it was awesome you fucking warm right

i was like fuck i love wilcompton it all changed it all changed when his teeth changed Before When he hugged me I go look at this fucking guy's White jibs Are one of those numbers right now Yeah I did

Christ Yeah those things are standing $30K They look great though 15 Jesus Get the half off The NFLPA

I wish NFLPA was that fucking useful Fucking trash Doug see with the old teeth You had the buddy out The people So they wouldn't just fucking roast you

But the old teeth You were winning people Over nearest fast You were kind of like They're going to put me in a van somewhere, you know what I'm saying? Where's this kid live? He's like, hey, that guy's really nice. Yeah, but don't take his candy.

You know what I'm saying? Like, if he gives you a drink, don't drink it. People are Lena Taylor, hey, how do he get in here with you? Fucking hey, dude. I remember when he first got those teeth. I never even noticed how bad will see the world. He was like the guy in something about Mary. He's like, hey.

Yeah, exactly. He's the, well. He would act like nothing even happen. Were they real bad? I didn't even notice, bro. You were fucking bad. They do not, especially now. When you're around me all the time, people Friday didn't think it,

but I'm taking selfies. Look at that. I think this comes up on every pod now. Let me tell you something. Put the top row and middle out. You look like you went from meth head to like successful podcaster. It's so funny you said that because back in Nebraska,

my boy. Where are you from? Missouri. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I got a Missouri-looking mouth. But back when I played in Nebraska, somebody had tweeted Wilcompton looked like he's a meth addict.

And my boy, Nick, had saved that tweet forever. Is the left one get chipped? Tell me it got chipped. Are you born like that with the angle? No. No, you got chipped. I was chasing my little brother around the house. I tripped and fell into a door and went face first

and a door chipped it, stared at myself in the mirror as I held it and just looked at myself and started crying, bro. Bro, those teeth are like a baby teeth. You know what I'm saying? How that all kind of face out? Yeah. All gum, no teeth?

Hey, look at this motherfucker. Dude, the nice ones. Hey, but here's the thing. That was the post. People will be like, oh, your teeth, like, Dude, why wouldn't you do this if you didn't like your jibs? They look amazing now. The best investment I've ever fucking had.

Oh, bro, without a doubt. And when he got him done, he tells me we're working out. It's the summertime. And he's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to get my teeth done. I take it's up with you. You're like, bro, why? Like, who cares? Oh, I got my new teeth done.

I'm like, dude, other teeth weren't that bad because you don't even, you don't realize. Like, I don't look at you and be like, yeah, you know, all right. Personality. Small hands, big ears. I don't look at that. You know what I'm saying? It's just life now.

And he fucking goes and shows me a picture of his teeth Like this picture? I'm like that's what they looked like That was what you yesterday That was down there The third row is what I posted Like I said like cable television direct TV Those two around more in the white teeth

Third row Oh that They look great though Honestly They really look good Poor and I just got a guy From Rough and Rotary new teeth And you could tell

Oh I saw that It like changes life Yeah like you could Yeah it changes fucking everything It's real God you would Look at that, bro. Dude, you were like a four, now you're like a seven and a half.

No, you got to give me more straight than now. I'm like, seven and a half solid. It is, but, you know. I'll tell you, though, like, my ears are huge. I got one huge ear. They're really not the fucking, but I would never fix the ears. You can fix teeth, but, like, you can't touch ears. Like, if I got my ear pin back, I'm not the same person.

If you can turn it. Believe me, I love getting my ear pin back. You're just saying they stick out. Wait. We got a spit and chickled's memes guy. He's so funny. So funny. He just started doing stuff online

and we found him like the hilarious memes And I told the story recently I lost my iPods and air pods And he put like the funniest picture of Like basically a It was an air pod Somebody was holding that was like the size of your leg He's like Witt's AirPod he lost

I was like this motherfucker We found the guy and now he tortures me Bro why don't you can pin your ears if you wanted If you can turn a penis into a vagina I'm not doing it You can do whatever you want You can pin your ears Oh bro

You can pin their ears Hey, Will, you can take a penis and turn into a vagina and vice versa. You can do whatever the fuck you want. That's a good point. You know what I'm saying? You want a dolphin arm. You go ahead and fucking get you a dolphin arm. You can do whatever the fuck you want now.

Yeah, he had the fucking dolphin team. Whatever the fuck you want, dude. That's crazy. Shout out LGBTQ. Don't fucking come at me, dude. I'm chill, I'm chill. Easy guys. Yeah, I'm not Dave from hell.

You give me admirals in the army. You just don't come at the bus on the boys. Yeah. Hey, I had a buddy I played with Jordan Eberley. he was in Edmonton, now he's in Seattle, and he's got a wicked gap in his teeth. And we were like, oh, you got to get a fix. And he kind of says, like, no, but this is who I am. And I kind of understood that, like, everyone knows him as like,

eh, he's got the gap in his teeth. But at the same time, you have, like, cut off fucking meth teeth, so you had to do it. And everyone was telling me, bro, don't do it. Like, this is you. This is who you are, your personality, blah, blah, blah. I swear every fucking body, bro. Like, don't do it. You just do it not even say anything to do it.

Someone looks at you with those teeth and goes, no, this is you. This is your personality. You need to fucking hit them and break up with them as a friend. Just kick him right in the fucking stomach. You think I'm a loser? This is me? I'm not Missouri Will. Oh my God.

He fixed his teeth. No, he went back. No, he fixed him when he first retired. He fixed him. This dude makes $20 million a year right now. Isn't that crazy? You know who else? I bet it's way more than that.

You know who else is probably making close to $15, $10 million is he was on the Lions. Now he's on the morning. show for like CBS. Oh, Nick Burleson. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, dude. He's been killing it. He was going to give him good morning football forever. He was interviewing someone about the Russian invasion. I'm like, what the fuck?

Yeah. Good for him. Dude, he was unbelievable. He was on NFL Network's good morning football. Yeah. Like him, K. Adams, who the fucking Pete?

Pete Schrager and then Kyle Brandt, right? I get all those right. Oh, good shit, bro. Shut out of all the boys with that squad. Wow. Kyle, dude, is awesome.

All of them are awesome. But they, he was a part of that before he was a part of that before he went to do that. And he was a pro. I went on the show a couple times. Killers. Yeah, you could tell right away.

He's talented. For him, it doesn't matter what you did prior. If Strayhan and Burleson are on like ABC in the morning now, like that's just talent. Yeah. But the only reason I thought of him is because they're probably making, yeah, 15, 20.

Oh, for sure. Romo's making 17 a year. Dude, Eggman just re-upped a 17 and a half. He probably shouldn't because he's NFL player's not making that. you think I mean the guy calling the game making more money than yeah but everybody in the team

TV deals bro for real McAfee right well it's like I don't I don't necessarily disagree with it or agree with it it's kind of like wilder thing about like I don't have an opinion

and I'm happy for them because I never really like that's the thing I never like guys make more money now I like love when players get money and even after they play I like when they get money but it is like crazy when you first got in the NHL where you like kind of selfish like

didn't want want people to make money? Because that's how I kind of was. No. No, I really wasn't. I didn't. No, that's all right. You, hey, living, living in the fucking life.

This is me. Yeah. I was a selfish fucking pricks. The lamb in a lot of ways. No, so am I. This is your truth, man. So my. And let me live in.

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Draft. He was 13, right? I was 11. 11, my bad. What is your signing bonus to that? He got so mad. Yo, that's fucking crazy. Bro, I had a shitty draft experience.

Shitty draft experience. Were you the top O. Lyman? No, it was a third. Wow. Yeah, they took this dude, Greg Robinson, number two. Oh, the kid in Guy in Cleveland, and he's a bust. He's a bus. He just went, he got bus.

for drugs again like two weeks ago. Yeah, and he had a shi-lons and pounds on him. Yeah. Huge bust. And then at six, Atlanta was picking, uh, they, they told me like on Monday, like, hey, if you're there at six, we're going to take you. In my head, I'm like, I'm for sure going to be six. Like,

I'm for sure we'll be there. I'm going to Atlanta. I'm going to Atlanta. I'm going to be a dirty bird. You're in the green room? I was in the green room. Dude, they fucking, they go to pick. I'm so stoked. I'm waiting for my phone to ring. And the two tables over, Jake Matthews, who's another offensive tackle. gets the phone call.

He fucking takes the call. And in the green room, you're not supposed to stand up. I get up and I fucking walk out. Did you really that mad? Hot, dude. And so, hold on,

let me get this water. So I get up and I go down this hallway. Like, you gotta sit down. Like, no, I'm not going to sit down. And like, in the green room was like,

Rihanna, the dad from modern family. And I might have been Drake. Like, you know how you kind of place it up in your head. What's going on right now? Yeah. It was like a little squad

in the middle of the hallway. and I met Rihanna like two nights before and you know how like you meet some people sometimes and you're like, yo, I kind of left an impression. In my head, I left that fucking impression at the 4040 club. Rihanna's going to DM me. I was like, well, I was hoping to God,

but that wasn't really it. Maybe she'd be like, maybe we can be friends. She can friends own me. And then I'll be there when they get through a breakup and then I'll be the guy she can console. And then we'll be cuddling one night and she'll feel oppressed against her hip and then maybe something will happen.

That type of friendship. So I see her and she looks at me and I swear to God she recognized me. It came me playing the Big Fish story. and she kind of looks at me and like turns and I give her the and I keep walking to the bathroom I fucking bedtime around it because my feelings were hurt

I go in the bathroom and I'm looking in the mirror I'm like you're fucking bitch you're probably not even get drafted like you've been punked where the fuck is Ashton Kuchra at yeah you're not going to be nothing and then no 7, 8, 9, 10 weren't going to be taking O Lyman like is it different with that right? No no no no no like the next one was like

I think Tampa Bay and they needed an office alignment like I was just hot because I felt lied to And you know, you take everything personal when you're little. You're fine, no, why would they say that? Yeah, dude, it's so funny you asked that. One of the guys who was like an upstairs dude came and spoke to me during camp. He was like no longer in the league as like an upper guy.

And he's like, hey, I was from the Falcons. Like, we loved you. I was like, why the fuck didn't you guys take me? Like, what's the deal? And he goes, I think at the end of the day, like you were like from a talent level, like athleticism better than Jake, but they're like you had too many off the field issues. You were an off the field issue? Oh, yeah.

I had assault cases. I had a bunch of stuff. Yeah. Fights in college. Yeah, dude, I fucking put some guy down. Something like that. We beat Ohio State, which is like the big Michigan-Oh-Sah State rivalry. You know all about that.

And we're sorry, we lost Ohio State. Oh, sorry. We beat Ohio State. I'm sorry. I beat one of the three times. I'm sorry. That Pink Whitney. And we're going to like this place called the Brown Jug, and I'm walking out of the Brown Jug.

Yeah, it's fucking killer. Do you know Perry, the guy who owns it? No. His son played. He was lived with a pioneer and also play and stuff like that. Anyway, I'm going to the Brown Jugg. I'm like my girlfriend at the time. My best friend from high school and my brother are like getting out of the cab and walking in.

And some dudes on a megaphone talking shit. Talk about fuck, uh, fuck Michigan. A house A Rips, all this stuff. Will's heard this story so many times. He doesn't give a fuck. He just wants to be on the phone. He's texting like, I'm in the best episode ever. I got a, uh, I got a dinner thing at eight.

So I'm just going to say that's fucking wild Holy shit I got a dinner thing So this dude I don't care I'm like I'm like 12 deep I just had like I'm like 12 deep I just had a bunch of hams

Ham's beer so I'm like whatever I'm going in there I'm going to get fucked up And this dude hip checks a pole And fucking eats it And my brother starts like laughing at him pointing in his face And he's 29 years old And him and his four buddies are around

pushing my brother And my girlfriend at the time was like Hey your brother's he was about to get in a fight so I walk out there and fucking hit this dude. Hit him so hard, he hits the ground and spins in a circle. And I'm like, I fucking killed him. He's dead. And so I went and going back in the brown jug.

I'm sitting there like super panicked. I'm like, I got to go back out there. He just killed the guy. I walk back out. Guy who I hits, awake. There's a burrito place right next to it. He's eating a burrito. It's totally fine.

Oh, I'm good. Cops out there. I had a muffin of a punch. Yeah. Turns out. My girlfriend snitched on me after I broke up with her like three weeks later to a detective. Shut the fuck off. Sorry to God, dude.

What? She was mad you gassed her? Yeah. Holy shit. She was a sweet girl, but just wasn't it. I didn't respect her enough. I didn't respect. Wow.

So then that case, that case, all costs you. So if you got trapped at six as opposed to 11th, how much money did you lose? By four or five million dollars? No. Yeah. I mean, I guess you made 80. Who cares? Holy shit.

Yeah, so I fucking signed 11 with the Titans. I was fucking hot. They had two tackles. So I was like, what the fuck is they going to do with me? Do they trade one or did you just beat him out in camp? No. Michael Orr, you ever seen the movie The Blind Sign? Yeah.

So him, he was playing right tackle, funny enough. And then Michael Ruse was like the left tackle. And I didn't beat either of him out. I was fucking chilling the sidelines. And my head, I'm like, I'm a bust. Like, that's over for me. And then Michael Ruse gets a... he got like a micro fracture in his knee done for the season week five week six your boys in there

wow it was awesome never left since no all rookie team crushed it it was awesome wow just with 10 games too yeah well actually i played five because i got hurt in like the 11th game so i missed the last five games the years i've played five games all rookie team wow that's crazy before we let you go because i know will's got to go talk to us about like the stages of hockey like because with football it's like a, it's super easy to figure it out. You go high school, you go college, you get drafted. If you don't get drafted, you go play, like, the Arena League or CFL, and he's hopefully figured it out.

Not how you guys make it to the show from that, though, right? You can, um, Cameron Wake, who's a defensive end and play for the Dolphins. He didn't have it. He didn't do anything. Goes to the CFL, it becomes, like, all CFL, like, Canadian football player of the year. Goes out to Miami. I think he said, like, you would argue it a Hall of Famer.

You got to be, like, an anomaly to. You got to be, you have. to be a dude that just didn't get it, like has all the tools, but just didn't get it and then goes and gets it. We don't have like a send down league. What is it? A.H. Yeah, there's, we don't have any of that. Hockey's different because you get drafted at 18. So I kind of wish they did up the draft age a little bit because so college football, you got to go three years postgraduate from high school, right? So if you P.C., you can leave after, I'm sorry, if you register, you can leave after your sophomore year. Yeah. So hockey's different. So there's a lot more guys in hockey that our first round. round pick busts because they're 18 and who knows in four years what they're going to be.

Right. And there's a lot more third and fourth rounders who end up really good because like they were 18 and they really grew in the next few years. Not grew physically, but as a player. So I would say like you get drafted and even if you don't in hockey, it's not over. Football if you're not drafted, it's going to be hard. I sense. Willie.

But, right? I mean, it's not that common. I feel like if you don't get drafted in football to end up making it in the NFL for 10 years. It is hard. Right? So hockey, hockey, it's definitely, I'm a beast. It's not as easy, but, you know, you get drafted or you don't, and then you go and you're going to play junior college.

After that, most everyone plays in the H.L for a little bit. A lot of guys even start in the coast. More and more, you're seeing guys start in the East Coast Hockey League, making it to the NHL because the league's getting better and better. And then you work your way up, you get your shot in the NHL, and that's it. But the problem with NHL now is, or not now, but, I mean, you're a young kid, and, you know, you're 15, 16 years old. If you're not a high pick in the OHL, which is junior hockey,

there's OHL, Quebec League, and the WHL for Canada, then there's NCAA for America. And kids from Canada can play NCAA and vice versa. But all of those kids, like, you know, they get down. It's like, oh, I wasn't a first round pick in the OHL. It's like, dude, you're 15 years old. Like, it doesn't really matter. So I think in the NHL, though, you get to the first round.

It means a lot. You can end up making more with your signing bonus. Not that much. They really change the signing bonus. and the money you can make. But you get more chances being a high pick. It's like the NFL, right? Like you're a high pick, you're going to get more lives

like a cat. And then if you're a low pick, it's like if you fuck up, you're kind of screwed. So the levels of hockey, though, it's just changing with how watered down like different leagues are in the U.S. harder now. It's more confusing on where to play if you're a young kid. When I was young, it was like, all right,

go to one of these high schools, then go to college. Now it's like junior league here, junior league in Midwest. There's a Canadian in league. It's just harder to choose, but it's still like, if you're good enough, so I tell every kid, if you're good enough, dude, you're going to make it. What's the best route?

They'll find you. I personally think college is the best route. And Mark Recky, he's an NHL Hall of Famer. You can leave after one year in college? You can, yep. You can leave after, you can leave for one year. And you've already been drafted before you go to college. Some kids, because of their birth year, will be, like,

drafted after their freshman year. But for the most part, I talk to guys who play junior. It's great, but you're living with Billet families, and you're busing long-ass bus rides, especially in the western part of Canada. Like, you know, you've got 18-hour bus rides. College, like, you're living in a dorm with girls.

You're playing unreal hockey. You're playing against older guys, too. You know, college has 20-22-year-old players. So if my kids like hockey and they're any good and they have a chance to play college hockey or play junior, I'm going to say, go play college. And I left school early. I actually promised my parents I'd graduate and I haven't.

I gotta go do that. I fucking have to do that. I promised that. High school or? College. I left there for my junior year. And I'm like, well, now I have all this money. Why am I going to go back to school?

Unfortunately, I do, yeah. Dude, you went back? Fortunately, I do. No, dude. You were able to. I stayed for my fifth year. Yeah, Michigan's a legit school. Yeah.

Top 15 public school in the world. It's crazy. Billet, family, what is it? It's like a, like, foster care type thing? Yeah, so wherever you go play. I mean, it's a little different. But I'm saying, you go to like a family who's stays with you. Yeah, host family.

So there's families in the city you play in that will take in kids. And it's funny. One guy, one guy, I won't say his name. He ended up marrying his billet mom. She left. Whoa, whoa, say that again. I'm not saying the guy's name. He billed it with a family.

She had her husband. And in the end, she left him and him and her got married. What's his name? I'm not saying. And then there's another guy. Another guy I played with, another guy I played with who married his Billet's sister, which I always say is like, if I'm a dad, like, dude, in 14 years, no, no, no, no, no, 12 years when your daughter's 16,

are you going to take in a 60 year old hockey player? People are nuts. You got a 16 year old daughter, you're going to bring a 6 year old hockey player into your house? No thanks. Is it kind of like not that uncommon that Billet's sons bang the moms or sisters? I think a normal thing. I think it is not that common. Oh, really? I don't know. I've heard a few stories. I think there's a bunch of stories, but in terms of like being common.

Oh, okay. it's not that common put it this way my billum kicked me out she obviously didn't want to bang me I'm right I'm pin back my ear boys thank you so much

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