Bussin' With The Boys - Sam Darnold's Journey From Backup QB To Super Bowl Champion & Signing A $100M Contract | Bussin'
Episode Date: June 23, 2026Super Bowl champion Sam Darnold joins the boys in Nashville to talk about his Seattle Seahawks ring ceremony, going from potential NFL bust to backup with the San Francisco 49ers, getting his PhD in f...ootball from Brock Purdy, why he chose Seattle over Minnesota, and signing his $100M contract. Plus World Cup 2026 recap and Lionel Messi's hat trick, Taylor's +2000 Wyndham Clark US Open bet, Nebraska Adidas uniforms, EA Sports toughest stadiums, Rippin' With The Boys new show, and Jeff Simmons' Titans deal. Timestamp Chapters: 0:00 Open 2:27 Shoutout Bryce Harper 3:58 JP Goes to the World Cup w/ NUTRL 5:27 Messi Scores a Hat Trick 12:16 USA World Cup Chances 16:05 Taylor's +2000 Wyndham Clark Bet 21:24 Nebraska Unveils New Uniforms 29:09 College Football Season Preview 34:30 Toughest College Stadiums Rage Bait 44:33 Rippin' With The Boys Announcement 48:01 Nashville National Card Show Recap 50:46 The $12,000 Cam Ward Card 56:43 Tier Talks 1:01:48 Father's Day Recap 1:09:35 Jeff Simmons Signs New Deal 1:12:45 Sam Darnold Enters 1:15:21 Sam's Journey to Champion 1:17:55 Taking a Backup Job 1:27:33 Seattle's Loose and Focused Culture 1:29:09 Mike MacDonald's Leadership Style 1:33:00 Why Sam Chose Seattle 1:36:56 Signing $100 Million Contract 1:40:37 Winning the Super Bowl Never Really Hits You 1:41:05 His Worst Super Bowl Throws 1:45:02 Wanting to Stay With One Franchise Forever 1:49:04 Did Sam Want to Stay in Minnesota 1:58:10 The Josh Norman Fight Origin Story 2:09:01 Sam's Top 3 Receivers He's Played With 2:12:07 Handling Doubt 2:17:23 What to Expect in 2026 2:19:11 Rams Acquire Myles Garrett 2:27:01 Breaking Down Super Bowl Trick Play TD 2:30:51 Sam Darnold Is Secretly a Bird Watcher 2:33:03 Sam Loves Entourage 2:33:53 Game of Thrones Season 8 Debate 2:42:42 Sam's Favorite Shows 2:50:52 Only USC QB to Win a Super BowlSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Bryce Harper yeah in the cycle cycle first career cycle that is incredible
first career cycle in the first five innings right yeah oh shit oh yeah they were bro he was
They ran rule those boys, huh?
It was nothing.
Imagine having a bet on the cycle.
Yeah.
That old school little league, dude.
Come on.
Mercy.
Run, run.
The mercy.
You get him by 10 early.
It's like after the fourth.
We'll see you later.
Dude, interesting thing.
Clump and I are always talking about Dinger Tuesdays.
Every Tuesday, I sit down and put my Dinger Tuesday bed in.
A couple Tuesdays ago, Clump was riding hard, Bryce Harper a few weeks in a row where that
Tuesday, he would not hit one.
And so the next week, I'm like, look in.
I got in the Red Sox.
And I'm like, this guy.
Can't even pronounce his name?
This is the guy I'm picking, Dinger Tuesday.
Clump goes, I'm going Bryce Harper.
I make fun of Clump for that.
Three hours later, I get a text from Clump.
It's a video of Bryce Harper going yard on Dinger Tuesday.
So just keep, moral of that story, boys, just keep swinging.
Just keep swinging, man.
Just keep swinging.
So shout out friend of the show, Bryce Harper,
hitting the cycle.
Absolutely incredible.
Been an action-packed week since we last saw you guys on a Bustin with the Boys episode.
There was a card show that took place.
Father's Day happened.
Mitch's birthday, along with my beautiful wife's birthday, took place.
But I would love to personally start if it's okay with you.
Kansas City and the boys going to the World Cup.
It's what everybody's talking about.
Talks about America.
Hey, we don't know what we're going to do.
They'll probably be in the group series.
And then once they can get bounce, they're probably going to get bounce.
Seems like they're setting the world on fire.
You go to two different teams.
And I just want to know about the entire experience.
Can I get a neutral?
Yeah, let's crack a neutral.
Shout out to neutral.
for making it happen.
Sending the boy JP to KC.
Here we go.
I think the coolest part about it all is like a lot of Americans don't fully understand the weight of the World Cup,
the weight that it carries across the globe.
The smallest country that's in the World Cup, Cape Verdei, their goalkeeper,
who nobody has ever heard of, now has the same amount of followers as Tom Brady on Instagram.
The greatest NFL player of all time.
No shit.
Has the same amount of followers.
as Cape Verde's goalie, a 37-year-old goalkeeper.
That is nuts.
What's his name?
That is crazy.
His nickname is like Vizino, which means little granny,
because he's the oldest guy on the team.
Little Gras.
Is he a short boy?
No, no, he's not a short boy.
Okay, so it's like a big guy called Tiny type of situation.
He has something with their culture.
Nice.
But yeah, man, the World Cup, growing up a soccer fan,
you love playing World Cup.
There's a game in the summer.
You partner of, say it'd be me and Jack.
We want to choose Argentina.
they would choose Brazil.
They're choosing France.
Somebody always chooses Djibouti, one of the fun countries.
You grow up playing it.
You want to be Argentina because they have Messi.
You want to be Brazil because they had Ronald Dino.
So World Cup is all over my childhood.
So then to go to the game where Messi, the greatest goat of all goats,
is playing in what it will be his last World Cup.
Even though based off his performance,
I'm not sure if I could be convinced that he's not going to show up for another one
because I think he could probably still give him 30 or 40 minutes.
But to see this atmosphere and probably the stadium holds 70, 75K,
probably 55 to 60K of them are Argentinian fans.
And Messi puts that first goal in.
And to see 65,000 people hands up, all start bowing,
Messi, Messi, never seen it for any athlete.
And with Messi's back,
story too like the guy comes from rosario like middle of nowhere argentina found on accident a scout
is coming to see somebody else they see this undersized kid and now he has changed an entire country
like that's you can't understate it like he has changed an entire country and he's just a little
boy from rosario coming from the dirt and the way the the amount of like humbleness that he has
and gratitude towards his fans and everything he gets subbed off after scoring his
hat trick and he's uh he's like you know hugging everybody he's going to sit down all the seats are
full one of the young guy stands up messy like hey have my seat obviously messy's like no you're all
good sits down by the cooler on the grass and this is the greatest soccer player of all time
greatest player of the most popular sport in the world ever and so to be in the stadium on behalf of
neutral was truly like a it unlocked so many fun childhood memories of
me and my love for soccer, my love for Messi,
because I was always a messy defender when it comes to Messi versus Ronaldo.
So to watch him get his first ever hat trick in the World Cup,
become the oldest player to score a hat trick in the World Cup,
oldest player to score in the World Cup was just like,
that's something that I tweeted out,
I don't have kids.
And in the stadium, like, I can't wait to tell my kids about this.
And I don't even have kids yet.
That's so awesome.
So it was, and neutral made it happen.
Shout on neutral for that, dude.
That's incredible.
And then Ryan got first trip.
Yeah, it was sick.
I mean, to see, like, also even just the soccer fans, like the way they are compared to even NFL fans, like the chance the whole time.
Because soccer's not a sport.
There's always something going on.
But they all, the fans are constantly going with their chance.
And just, like, the energy there was, it was unbelievable.
It really was.
Hour after the game, stadium still, like, you know, the spirally things that are on each, like corner of the stadium where you walk up to the second level?
Yeah, yeah, like the ramps.
The ramps after the game for an hour, they're all just still in there chanting,
whatever they're saying.
Yeah.
And just flags, wave in.
And I'm like, man, it really is.
It's unbelievable.
I need to know how they learn.
Is it you learn these chances as a young lad and you grew up and you just know them?
Because you were saying also that they were changing the chance to include messy into it.
It's just, it's amazing for 90 minutes, everybody's standing up and being loud the entire time.
is just a foreign thought process to me
being in the football world
where it's like you either crush it
and you get a loud pop
or it's kind of like died down
for a minute you're waiting
for the next piece of action to take place.
It's just nuts, man.
How was the stadium volume
compared to maybe the Nebraska game
that we went to?
What was it? Week zero, week one?
JP told me it was comparable to Nebraska fans.
I FaceTime Will there.
I'm not sure if you can hear me.
But I mean, I don't know.
I think when the hat trick happened,
when the third goal hit, it was like a deafening type of cheer.
And again, that's probably only 60,000 people screaming.
And it was like, it gave you that ringing in your ears similar to like a kneeling stadium
when they're just going berserk.
It does feel different.
I was watching the clip, but when they were doing the national anthem in L.A.
And you just hear the crowd roaring after that gets done.
And that holds, what, about the same 70,000?
Yeah, well, and they sing out the whole fans, all the fans were singing the national anthem like
at the top of their lungs,
which I'm like,
you know, in the U.S.,
you just sit and you have the person performing it.
Yeah.
But there it's just both countries,
just extremely proud, patriotic.
Yeah, I do feel like those World Cup soccer games
are like different to where you want to go
and witness the fans versus like,
you know how the saying is like,
just go to experience like,
experience a game at kneeling,
experience a game in Nebraska,
experience the game of Michigan.
It's like you almost want to go
at the World Cup just to witness what the fans do.
at those games.
It's been fun to follow along with on social
because I'm not a big soccer guy.
But seeing all the international people come over
and experience buckies
and just the little things in America
and they're just like,
you know,
this is the greatest thing of all time.
Dude,
people being like we were lied to about America
this place absolutely rips.
You did a bunch of man on the street stuff.
Was that the same feeling
that these people were having about America?
Oh, yeah.
The guy from Algeria,
he was like, man, this is like,
what's your favorite thing about the U.S.?
He said everything.
The people are incredible.
The food is awesome.
Like I could not believe how nice everybody was when I got here.
And like this has been the greatest thing.
Like no bad things to say.
All great.
Like have to come back.
God,
that juices me up,
man.
It's so funny.
I do love the,
Terry Blacks.
They made this extremely hard at it with a Japanese person.
They were like,
what are you most excited for about Texas?
She said,
Big beef.
And they just like beat drop,
big X to plug.
So it goes on.
All of me.
Let's fucking go
The Argentinians actually
Like I know we're doing a thing for neutral
But they were smacking neutrals behind us
Those three guys
They were like all about it
They got shirtless after the first messy goal
They all just took their shirtless
The rest of the game guys were just shirtless behind those
Would they are they the most rowdy fan base
You've ever seen?
No I mean
Yeah they weren't too rowdy
I would love to see them maybe like
If it was Argentina versus Brazil
England is probably like
The rowdiest
Really
They'll be saying some offside stuff
stuff. So it's so funny when Wyndham Clark wins the U.S. Open, there's like a guy last year from
Britain, some reporter that's just like dunking on them for like for Wyndham Clark cussing
and all these things. You see the England soccer fans? They're like the most, like abrasive
type of fans that you can ask. It shows you how important sunlight is, man. Those guys don't see
any vitamin D their own entire life. They just out there angry all the time. They don't know why.
It's called seasonal depression 24-7, man. You got to get some. Got to get some. We
got to play England in the World Cup.
The USA versus England game would be.
What kind of shot does America have?
Because they're two and O.
It seems, well, do you mind?
Yeah, you've kind of broken down a little bit from me,
and you can step in any point and start fumbling over myself.
But it seems like we have a young, extremely talented team.
And America put in a bunch of money to go get this elite coach to come over.
Argentinian coach who is like big on, obviously game playing strategy,
but he's a huge like locker room culture guy.
dudes with a lot of talent to come together and emphasize the best best version of themselves
and going into the world cup it was kind of like a little messy the way the way i kind of view it is
when you watch like the dream team documentaries and basketball how you've always like superstars
come in and they don't know how to like share the ball or share anything like that's kind of where
my brain's going in the movie of america is going to win it all now and it seems like the last two
games or three games we've played two yeah okay the last two games they've been just like these
boys are in flow state like they're looking like they're the team that are maximizing their full
potential did i miss anything there miss nothing it's cool to see the coach to really embrace like the
american spirit he's like sending a message to the team of like you guys have got to remember like
you are american and americans don't take shit from anybody and that's how you guys need to step
out onto the field where that message probably was not being delivered from our previous coaches
and it's cool and he's like i'm argentinian at heart of course he's like but i will
I bleed and I will die for America now that I'm coaching this team.
Oh my God, that juices me the fuck.
What's this coach's name?
Pochette, like, I always botched the pronunciation of it, but like Pochitino.
Pochitino.
Yeah.
He's awesome.
And he's like a hard-nosed coach.
Like, he'll call you out on your BS.
It could be, it's not fun to play with him, but he's going to bring the best out of you
and it's fun to win.
I love that.
Do you need an Argentine coach?
We currently have the 10th best odds at plus 33-300.
Newell plus 3,300 for USA to win.
It might be worth just pop in a future on that one, boys.
Plus 3300.
Nice little snipe.
See what happens.
In your mind, you're a soccer guy.
Is it out of the realm of possibility?
It's not out of the realm of possibility.
There's still like four teams that have way more talent than us and experience.
Gotcha.
But it's soccer.
Like Cape Verde, the smallest country in the World Cup has now tied two teams.
And one of them was Spain.
Spain is one of the top
Spain was I believe the number one odds
to win it
How much longer do we go in group play
Before the tournament happens
We have one more game left in group play
Then we'll go to knockout stage
And now as group play is this is like a seating process
That's taking place
Yeah it's like the top two from each group
Make it out
And so
You know it just depends like where you are in the in the bracket
And we're like kind of locked in
Yeah we've made it
We've clinched
So we're solid
So right now are possible teams
that we could play is whoever finishes
in third between Group B,
E, F, I, or J.
So right now in group B, it's Bosnia
or Erzavna.
Yep, yep, sound that out.
Ecuador, Netherlands, Senegal, or Jordan.
Those are the five teams we could possibly play.
Great matchups.
We like that.
I just been seeing people,
I feel like Netherlands is the most scary.
Insanely pessimistic in the comments.
Like, everybody sell it like is all excited
because America's winning.
Everybody's, oh, they're going to get, you know,
they're going to get, we're going to get,
we're going to get dummied when we get,
to the, what is it, 32.
Yeah, the knockout of 32.
And is it a single elimination?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Might be worse sprinkling.
Just get super patriotic and just be like, hey,
crazier things have happened.
Why not just jump in there?
Jump in there a little bit.
Speaking of bets.
Speaking of bets.
Come on now.
Wyndham Clark.
U.S. Open?
I mean, I feel like I don't want to start a round of plus myself, but that was,
I mean, plus two thousand.
My God.
That was a big hit.
Big hit.
I take zero credit for it.
That is 100% Tanner Technini.
Thursday, I'm leaving the shop, driving home.
I get a call.
Answer, Chief.
He goes, hey, whatever money he got on Fandle, put it on Wyndham Clark.
And I'm like, oh, what's going on?
Is he winning right now?
He's, like, haven't even played yet.
But you need to know, like, he's been playing really well.
And that's how, like, Wyndham Clark goes.
Because Tanner Technini, Rob Moogie and I all went to Chaparral High School.
The three of us were really good friends in high school, but Rob and Tanner especially.
So Rob and Tanner talk all the time.
So Tanner's been super invested.
it into Wyndham Clark, his ascension
since Rob is now representing him
from the Asian standpoint. And he's like, I've
been on this guy, his last two or three wins,
and I've like timed it up. And I just, I'm telling you, this is the time.
This is the time right now. So while, like, I'm at a red light
responsibly, I have about $1,700 in my
Fandual account. I just put a thousand on it thinking like,
I'll be a part of the vibes.
I'm a trust my boy. I'll be a part of the vibes. Like,
we're going to, we're doing this responsibly. It's all good.
And then I think it was after Friday when they play
Friday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
correct? Thursday.
Thursday. Okay, so they do play Thursday.
Yeah, yeah. Okay. After
Thursday or Friday, it's like at like
4,000 or 5,000.
The next day it gets up to like $9,000
because he's leading by
six strokes. And
that's what I put, that's when I go to Twitter and I'm like,
should I be cashing out here, golf fans, let me know.
Yeah. Wildly, it's like 80, 20
people are like, you need to cash out. Guys are mental
midget. He can't handle it. Like, it'll get
too much pressure and he'll fold. I
personally just didn't like that. Because Wyndham Clark
a friend of the locker room.
You took that personally.
I took that personally for him.
Because one of the worst things you could be called as an athlete is someone who doesn't
handle adversity or mental adversity well.
You do never want to be that guy.
So up by six, people are reaching out to me being like chat, GBT has told, has looked
at all the stats.
Anybody who's leading by five or more, five strokes has an 80% chance of winning.
Obviously, it only goes up from there.
He's at the third largest lead in this specific courses history.
It was Roy McElroy and Tiger Woods.
Roy was minus six going in the final day and Tiger was like minus eight going in the final day.
Both guys ended up winning.
So you're at this point.
You got the odds.
Yeah.
And we're in the group chat.
And I feel like our group chat, the bust with the boys group chat was very split back and
forth too.
Like you were you were like, hey, you should probably take it.
Yeah.
I'm thinking if you're not thinking about golf, like the way, the fact that you turned a thousand into
12,000.
Yeah.
It's like if you're not even invested in it, you just make $12,000.
Just $12,000.
Just $12 extra money and move on.
Then you won't even, you won't live.
lose any sleep you just back fuck I just got a huge hit and the the reason why I stayed in it was
like I didn't want the feeling of going into yesterday afternoon I didn't watch any piece of golf
other than his last two putts on the 18th hole 52 it was 52 feet he needed a two putt to get in
and he gets it within like less than a foot from the other from the hole on his first pot
it's like oh this is over yeah and then who was the second was it scotty sheffler and sam burns
because sam burns kind of came out of nowhere it seemed like sheffler was going to be the guy
that was going to come and kind of take over.
They were paired up together during the day.
And Clark started going downhill a little bit.
He was like plus three on the day.
Bernsey went up two or three.
So they're neck and neck for a little bit where I'm like,
I'm not watching golf,
but I'm watching my Fandual Cash Out app quite a bit.
And that little boy was fluctuating.
It was going, I think he got as high as $15,000 and is low, like back down to six.
Where I'm like, I see it at six and I'm like,
what the hell is going on?
he just responds to me, not good.
And there was a specific hole where he's like on the 11th, that's a par three.
And it's like you have to essentially make it on the green.
And if you miss the green left or right, like you're like you're done.
You're essentially in a drop situation because it rolls off the green.
One side's like water and the other side is like really high bushes.
You're not getting the ball out of there.
You'd rather take a drop than just hacking at it a few times.
And apparently he just put that boy up there and landed like five feet.
from the pen and it was like we're in a good spot now so overall fun day fun day great
father's day for me great fathers day that took place it was awesome so I might just take a couple
shekels and put it on USA huh might as well there also I saw a video uh say if we did if we were
to win the world cup or maybe if we get to play England and beat them somebody was saying
why is it that we speak English we need to say that we speak American I'm clean
That's another clean take.
That is a clean take right there.
That is a clean thing.
Makes more sense.
And they do use different words than us.
Yeah, they spell words different too.
Like center.
C-E-N-T-R-E.
What are we doing out here, dude?
Canada's the same thing.
Canada doesn't say Z, they say Z.
It's like, that's a word.
That's possibly a name.
Z.
So for a letter they say Z.
Yes.
The name of a DJ.
Yeah.
X-Y-Z.
Really?
Yeah.
Fascinating.
I know.
Fascinating.
But I like that take, clean take.
That is a clean take.
I have a question for you, William.
I know I saw on the bird that Nebraska like changed their uniforms up.
Yes.
A big change is taking place in the uniform category.
And I watched like the video of them doing the hype.
They're walking through.
They're hitting the horseshoe and all that.
And they're like kind of showing off the Adidas and the stripes on the shoulders.
And maybe like the textures taking place on the number.
Yeah.
But then I look at it, I'm like, I don't think anything changed.
I don't think.
Mitch had a photo up.
Keep it on that photo, Mitch.
Where was the quadrant?
The little quad.
He had a quadrant.
There it is.
Yeah.
Pull that up from me.
Let me see that thing.
So that's what's changed.
The stripes went from the side of the shoulder pads.
They put stripes on top of the shoulder pads.
And then on the pants, it's not a double stripe all the way up the pants.
They just got a little thinner double stripe going halfway up.
That's the big change.
And they remove the patch.
The number font, I guess, is different as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
The number font has a texture to it, like a leather texture, right?
Because I remember when I watched a video, it was like showing it.
It was like, oh, it seems like.
Yeah, they have some detail of the cornfields going into where it's kind of like striped down,
like in the detail of the number, but the font of the number change as well.
And they removed the winning tradition patch, which has been a big,
that's been a big topic of Nebraska fans as they saw the release of this jersey.
the release of the jersey.
I do agree with that.
I kind of hate how they remove the patch
and it's like a patch
where it says like winning tradition.
They now have winning tradition
stitched in the back of the collar.
That's always fun.
I like when people do that.
Overall, look, it doesn't matter.
You got to win football games
if it's going to be cool.
Like everyone, you know,
clean take people love hating
on Nebraska football
because we haven't won shit
over the last decade.
And we win off seasons.
Our production team is awesome.
Another move that I was talking
with the club about
I was, that I agree with too.
It's like we have this incredible production team.
Like Nebraska does a really good job highlighting their sports, making content for their
sports, especially the football team.
They had this badass video.
They waited until Friday night to do this release.
You do the top of the week.
You're going to get hate.
You're going to get people talking about it no matter what.
It does seem like the consensus.
People are on board with it.
Some people hate it.
Like to me, it doesn't matter.
If the kids, if the players like it, then it's going to be sick to me.
Like I because me you look at those jerseys where you see on the left side
I like those jerseys I like the more the blocky letters I love the detail of the cornfields
inside of the letters yeah that's fun but I like the stripes on the side I like the stripes
going down the pants but I could just be being like a boomer I could be just being more of an old
generation guy who wants to say the same I want to embrace this change I'm going to the only thing
that I wish that they did is they kept the patch on the jersey and what did the patch say
winning tradition you got it at the bottom got you yeah to me it's like there's not enough changes here
for me to have an opinion it's like you guys have the same uniform with a couple of minor details
this is a guy in the NFL like you know the NFL kind of re-released all their jerseys but there's
really not a whole lot of difference with any of the jerse yeah they just did a big production content
thing of switching certain aspects of the jersey as a casual fan of nebraska where I watch it and
I root for my boy and his team there's no I'm not watching a game this fall being like oh something
different here. It's like, no, no, these are, these are the uniforms that I'm used to.
Yeah. It just feels the exact same. The one percentage that you guys are true Husker fans. Those are the
guys, you guys are getting mad about patches, which I get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some people wanted to
keep that because the patch has been on for a long time. I do like a winning tradition stitched
in the back. Like, I don't care a whole lot. Like, I'm just going to embrace the, I'm just going to
embrace the squad. Yeah. I'll tell you what hurts the most is that Adidas symbol. And I don't
want to be a nasty boy about Adidas, but just something about... Your fans aren't very big.
fans of the New Jersey
there is a petition on change
dot org to go back
to the old. The negative ones are usually the loudest
right what I've seen I've seen
a mix back I'm in a couple Nebraska
group chats they thought it was fire
so it's like you know
I don't know where you want to get your
where you want to get your info from but it's just
going to be it's going to be loud in the Nebraska orbit
that's the internet man you can find
any narrative you want yeah to fulfill what you feel
yeah and that's okay
at the other day it comes
down to let's just win games yeah the play yeah the players put them on and they're hyped up
about it feeling swag about it yeah we just need that we need to we need to squad to win games
and then these jerse are gonna be sick only 16 people have signed it so i don't think it's
that big of a deal yeah okay so we got the petition we only got 16 signatures and actually it's got
probably 20 more just now because it's on the show like they it's it's nothing burger i like to spin it in a
way of this is now rules new year this is rule year this is rule year one this is rules new year i like
that we switch up the jerseys because people are you know he didn't live up to rule year three
expectations. Now we just reset the clock. We're now in a rule year one. That's good. That's a good
Wilcompton spin. I like that. I like that a lot. One thing I saw on the internet this weekend,
and it was a bust with the boys post about the logo on the front jerseys was it was
Wisconsin, Nebraska, Michigan, I think it was one other. Yeah, they talked about an all-time era.
Yeah, I got to be honest. I hated those uniforms. I thought they all looked horrendous.
I was disgusted that I had to put that jersey on.
At the time, I was excited to wear that jersey
because Michigan was always just maize in blue.
Like that, they had the same uniform, same helmet,
nothing ever changed.
So to switch something up,
like felt cool like you're a part of history.
But looking back on it,
that jersey is sitting in my recovery room right now.
And I look at every day and be like,
I can't believe I wore that shit.
I know.
I was pumped to wear the all black helmet.
Like when we realized,
when they were kind of tipping us off
that we're going to have an alternate jersey
because we don't,
Nebraska doesn't do that.
And we were going to wear different jerseys
or an alternate.
The whole locker was fired up.
But then when you see the jersey,
we're fired up about the all-black helmets,
but the jersey itself,
my grandpa was rolling over in his grave
that I had to put that shit on.
And that's what I felt too.
Like my,
it's like my bod's not flattering
and I got to go into this all-red bullshit.
Now, we did it,
and we won and I had double-digit tackles.
Drop pick, drop pick.
But you're going to ball no matter what.
Yeah, like I'm going to, yeah.
I was going to go off,
but I hated that I was wearing those jerseys.
And you guys were Adidas back then, too, correct?
Yeah, yeah.
So were we, and the jerseys were this big.
They were like for a onesie for a toddler,
like how's it going to fit over shoulder pads?
And that thing form fit to your body.
God forbid you had a little extra hanging off the side like we all did.
Now those are sick.
Those go hard.
The boys got to wear those last year.
Yeah, the all blacks looked nice.
It was USC right, the blackout.
Yeah.
Those were badass.
And on the side or is it the skull and crossbones on the side?
And.
Small miss.
I know.
Because the school and crossbones with that uniform is fire.
That skull and crossbones.
helmet out there so bad.
Yeah, the one that's in the locker room set.
Yeah.
It's a nice.
But yeah, it's kind of my opinion, my take, I guess, on the Nebraska jersey.
He's like, I don't have much of one.
I know we had it.
Was it a tear talk or a callback of a fan who brought up the uniforms?
Survey says.
Yeah, here we go.
SW underscore NE 87.
I think because of the frustration of the Nebraska football fan base, it wouldn't have mattered
what the new uniforms look like.
They were still going to get a lot of hate.
what does the bus think hashtag hashtag to your talk i agree with that yeah i agree with that like we're
trying to do something cool like nothing's going to matter nothing's going to matter until we have like a
just a great year in the fan base's eyes oh no we had double-digit wins and it's just so it really
is just hard because the the schedule y'all have is just michigan included too like this could be
a brutal year for both of us but we got to wave the flag i'll know week two i'll know week two where
Michigan is. You're going to have to wait till what week six?
We're just going to have to let the season unfold. Right. There's no way. We're going to
we're going to find out right here. You're going to find out how competitive a team you are.
Yeah. I think week six you guys have Indiana. Yeah. But even then you can't sleep on Michigan
State. You can't sleep on Maryland. True. True. Just for the bit, you can't sleep on Ohio,
Bowling Green and North Dakota. But like even even the bit is, Will's fully off the rails, man.
Before he had been like, I'm not sleeping on Ohio. He's like for the bit. If we beat Indiana,
Like, of course, you're going to know what type of fans going to come out of all of us Husker fans.
But you just, it doesn't mean we're a team to be wrecking with you.
You got Oregon the next week.
Then Washington, then Illinois.
If you guys are like a 10 and 2 ball club with this schedule.
Oh, buddy.
The worst might be the worst fan base, JP, at the end of it.
Because they're just so starving that.
We're starving.
They go two ways.
They could be like Michigan and 23 or Indiana in 25.
Right.
There's going to be no gray
I'll say this you're
You don't know what you're going to I don't know what you're going to get
Because we just been beating on it
It used to be internal
Just a rage internally
But now that we're on the more
National scale of losing you're in and you're out
Other fan bases are just fucking pouring it on us
Towards bringing out a bad
It could bring out the bad side
It can bring out a side I don't know
I don't know
Right but whatever you give us
We're going to receive
We're going to take it
And we'll talk to you about it later
It's going to feel so new that I can't tell you
what you're going to get. I don't know.
Right.
Why not us, Will.
Why not us? Amen.
This is the most pivotal season.
I don't say this lightly.
This is the most pivotal season
in college football history for a lot of programs.
A lot of programs.
Overall, man.
Because we're about to go into the 24 team playoff.
Right.
Yeah.
And none more than Nebraska.
Ooh, I think it's more pivotal for it.
See, if we're talking teams on the bus,
I think it's the most pivotal year for South Carolina.
Yes. I can put you guys in that group for sure.
I just think,
Seth Killanis had more success than Nebraska in totality over the years of a bus with boys.
Oh,
a bus with the boys.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Hey.
I think so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe they're being there.
They've been clumson.
They've done the things like,
well,
we've done busing.
This is our seventh year doing busing.
Yeah.
And it's what you're six year here here.
Since I've been here,
South Carolina has had more success.
Right.
Since y'all started busing,
it could be split down the middle because you guys started 2019.
we had some rough
we had some rough times guys
yeah we've been kind of
game until two years
that's facts that's fact
the last two years
yeah yeah
the last two years has been
Nebraska's better years
since we've started
bustling with the boys
right yeah
but JP has things like
beating their rival
I guess we'd be I'm in 2022
yeah
upsetting Tennessee
we also just have guys too
like I mean dude
we were at the game
South Carolina has a
gauntlet of his schedule too
dude yeah but it's like
that's just logos
we know what the
SEC's got to pick it up.
If we're going to talk about Washington as a hard game,
I think our schedule would be considered hard as well.
I guess, yeah.
Are you trying to...
No, I'm not doing...
I'm just saying like...
You're trying to rage bait the boys?
No, no, no.
Maybe.
I don't know.
We'll find out what I figure out my full entire thought process here.
Because he's...
I think that's fair.
I do think Washington's a tough ball club too.
The stinky ball club.
Yeah.
But I just think like in the NIL era,
things have truly.
leveled out over SEC dominance in Big Ten.
We can agree on that, right?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Okay, we can agree on that.
And then we look at Indiana, Oregon, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan.
Like, that's a, that's a massive Big Ten.
Like, the Big Ten has a strong, a high-end.
Penn State might be dead.
I, dude, I would think about Penn State a lot.
And I think they might have a brutal year this year.
And I'm also hoping that because we play them.
But I think, like, Penn State's going to have a down year.
Because they're essentially Iowa State of the East now.
This conversation is just...
It's brewing.
Clean take.
We are getting excited for college football season.
Clean take.
You can start to feel it.
We're a couple months out.
juices are starting to get there.
Right.
We're about that.
We're like where we can see July on the horizon.
Yeah.
It's just so close, man.
Edub.
Read that one from EW99.
EW 99.
EW 99 says,
Need a Pod with a Lockroom with a Lockroom Talk Squad before the season.
I agree 100.
100% yeah a hundred percent we're getting some ducks in motion we it's a big this a big year this
a big year for bustle with the boys this is a massive year for bustle with the boys especially in
the football world now that like the NBA is over NHL is over and like all we have is like
baseball thankfully we have the World Cup kind of holding us over a little bit but it's officially
like itching for football but the dry spell dude is July like that's what it truly is
yeah we got a we got tread through the mud a little bit tread through the mud get through it you
listen we got my oldest daughter's birthday my birthday I had a kid
come in. We got a lot, but
it might not
overshadow. Right, that has to hedge against your excitement
because there are, there's steps.
I have steps, I have fun things to look forward to.
However, it's like
within reaching distance. We're getting there.
11 more Saturdays I saw on Josh
Pates, Twitter. 11 more.
That's just wild.
Speaking of some fun
college football, EA sports just dropped
the top 10 toughest places to
play in the video game. If you want to go over that.
Of course they did. Live reaction.
Let's hear this.
This is bullshit.
Number one, Tiger Stadium, LSU is number one hardest place to play.
It's great place.
Number two, Ohio.
I sent it to you, I think.
You're in Sherms thing.
Number two, Ohio Stadium, Ohio State.
Number three, Beaver Stadium.
You call it Ohio Stadium?
That's what they call Ohio Stadium.
It's called the horseshoe, but okay.
That's okay.
Number four, Sanford Stadium.
Shout out to Jared, Georgia in at number four.
Couldn't disagree more on my one experience there.
Beaver State.
was number three.
That's a good one.
I think that's a good one.
Yeah.
Number five, Brian Denny.
I wanted to get to number nine.
Memorial Stadium, but Clemson's Memorial Stadium is in at number nine.
Oh, Jack.
That's a rage bait post of all time.
I don't even know why we're wasting time with this.
There's other things to talk about.
Sanford Stadium may like that.
No way.
Well, let's talk about the ones we've been to.
Okay, we've been to LSU.
Very loud.
Yeah.
Very loud.
Ohio State.
Very loud.
Penn State.
Very loud.
You'll lose me big time on Georgia.
Big time.
Because we saw the Georgia, South Carolina game,
and it seemed like a lot of people there are expecting to win.
That feels like an NFL stadium.
It's really not that loud.
It feels like NFL stadium, but like I know dog fans are passionate fans,
but I didn't feel it on that specific Saturday.
Yes, I'm with you there because dog fans are very passionate.
But just the stadium, the build, it's kind of got the bowl,
and it feels like more of a professional stadium.
Right.
It's just not that like Neeland being seven is.
It's catastrophic.
Eight.
Hold on.
Go back.
Go back.
Alabama haven't been.
Oregon.
Loud.
Loud.
On the Ohio State when we saw an incredible game.
Yeah.
But weekend, week out.
That stadium's small too.
No, it's 55,000.
55,000, that's half of me.
No, that's what I'm saying.
It's like it's a time with you.
Okay, gotcha.
Yeah.
But like per capita,
per capita, hey, per capita,
Oregon might be one.
Oh, sure, per capita.
You're talking pound for pound,
but like, week in, week out.
Even when we were there on game day with Ohio State,
like we got around freely.
Like it's not the chaos that you,
that you feel going to any of these other colleges
that are on this list.
Like Tennessee, dude, I remember,
because I had to fly,
I don't even know why I was in Arizona.
I had like three flights to meet you guys for that game.
I remember just walking through trying to find y'all.
And it's a,
it's a zoo.
I literally was shoulder to shoulder
of people in the middle of the road.
Well, cars and people on bikes,
it's just the most insane shit ever.
Georgia didn't feel that way.
Ohio State didn't feel that way.
even Kyle
Kyle Field
A&M like
A&M is very loud
Very very loud place to play
They're like respectfully loud
I feel like yeah
I can see him
I like their slot at 10
Yeah but you gotta
Tennessee's gotta be two
Tennessee one
They're range bait the Tennessee fans
Tennessee's got to be at least top five
Because you're talking about
Tennessee Twitter is gonna get all over that
And they're winning
They're winning this post
Right they're winning the post
You're right yeah
Hey JP
What is South Carolina's
capacity 80,000.
Okay, so it's a loud place from the one game I've been to there.
JP, do you have an unbiased observation of Clemson?
Yeah, like the big thing is week in, week out.
Like that's how I would rate loudest stadiums.
Sure, like pretty much any stadium that fits 80,000 people at night in a big matchup
is going to be loud.
Yeah, which Clemson has.
Like if it's Clemson Notre Dame and it's at night, it's going to be loud.
but week in and week out
music is making most of that noise
in that stadium
it ain't the fans
I'll take a look at 11 through 22
don't even look at the second one
I'll listen
this is crazy
I can't see you this blind reaction
so the next one 11 is Oklahoma
we're not even top 20
11 is Oklahoma
and honestly I would disagree with that
we were at that playoff game
that doesn't seem like a like a stadium
it's not like absurdly loud at all
It's windy.
It's windy.
It is louder than Michigan, which is number 12.
And yeah, like even as a Michigan homer, like, we're not 12 loudest.
Is pound for pound Michigan like at the bottom of the list?
Would you like?
I don't know.
Did I have been to every stadium?
I would say no.
I would say no at this point.
You're missing my question.
No, no.
You're saying because it's the largest stadium and it's not very loud.
Is it pound for pound?
The quite a same answer.
Same answer there.
Texas haven't been to Texas.
What was this one?
Texas is a good spot.
Auburn haven't been there.
Washington haven't been there.
South Carolina, there you go.
South Carolina could be a little higher.
This one's crazy.
Indiana?
I mean, I have no clue.
I'll be honest with you.
I'll be honest with you.
I'll see what's up.
I played Indiana.
It was my first Big Ten start ever.
It was in Indiana.
And I remember being so overwhelmed.
It was also my first Big Ten start ever.
So my vision of Indiana is it's,
I'd love to get to Indiana now that they're.
I feel like it's got to be recency bias.
Signetti's Indiana.
They keep a tight ship there.
They're like the Patriots of college football.
The way they're the way they kind of operate.
This one too, I don't really agree with.
No, Notre Dame.
But even Kenick State, like Iowa's not very loud.
It's loud at night.
I was cool because the fan bases just feels like it's right on top of you.
Yeah.
Because they're right behind you.
Yeah, yeah.
But Utah, I've never been.
Utah would be a cool game to be at.
Yeah, Utah's got a, I heard as you got an awesome environment.
You got Lucy's on you, bro.
I got this.
What's up?
No, I just need something to take the edge off.
You need something to take the edge off.
Yeah, that is Nebraska.
Nebraska and Tennessee rage bait.
I mean, just Huskers not even being in the top 20.
Like, at least put us to 20 if you want to rage bait us.
So, Lucy's.
There's already.
Well, you're not even in the top 25.
You got BYU and Mississippi State over here.
I heard of BYU.
Mississippi State, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
Mississippi State now.
Matter of fact, now I'm looking at the top 50.
Yeah.
They got NC State.
over y'all oh no
nancy stay bad crazy
what uh Nebraska is loud
like they did they they is I mean
Nebraska's louder than Michigan
so they should be I mean
Michigan's what 12
were they 12 in it?
Yeah yeah I don't know man I have no comment
Michigan does get loud
It's just not it's just not as loud as you think it should be
I agree I think it has moments of being loud
but when you when I was at South Carolina
consistently loud when I was at Nebraska
consistently loud.
When I was at Tennessee
overwhelmingly consistently loud
LSU overwhelmingly consistently loud
like Michigan will have its pops
big plays take place,
sacks, touchdowns,
those things where
everybody and their mother
should have a big pop.
Like yeah, it gets objectively
hey this is loud in this moment
but for the capacity
it's just not there.
I don't blame the fans.
I blame the structure of the stadium.
Yeah, well and too
it's like with as much excess
of you guys have had
in recent years.
You just feel like
Like, you know, like even with Indiana having recency bias and stuff like that,
like fans, if you're winning football games, that fan base should be rabid.
I feel like when we were at the game two years ago, granted, it is the game.
It is the biggest robbery.
Like, it was consistently loud the entire game.
I agree with that.
Yes, absolutely.
I appreciate you reminded me of that because my most recent memory of that, us being in a game,
was the Texas game.
When we got throttled and people were leaving in the third quarter and it was like,
I'm getting in the car with you guys thinking like this is just a bad representation.
and I don't want you boys to see my school.
Yeah, like, we had to leave.
We had to leave to make it to another game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We had to go.
When you saw the fans swarming out,
it's kind of like, guys, guys, get back in there.
Please, for the love of God, support your team.
Like, they need you now more than ever.
Yeah, but that's a, that is rage bait.
That's a big time.
Dude, I'm so stoked for some college football, man.
Big.
Dude, it's 11.
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the big thing we have in the work? Not the fall thing. The ripping thing. Oh, let's see.
Yeah, let's for sure. Oh, that's, I feel like that's just up to you. No, it's up to us. It's a
bustling with the boys thing. But it's just a show that I'm doing. Yeah. Yeah. I can say it.
Yeah. Boys, uh, obviously you guys have seen on, uh, every Sunday at 7 p.m. Central
Time, obviously a couple of bounced back and forth because of UFC fights, NASCAR and such.
I am starting
along with Bus with the Boys
everybody on here.
We are starting
Ripping with the Boys
a show
that'll be every single
week rain or shine
it'll take place
we will be doing a hiring process
we're looking for absolute killers
club I'll let you jump in then a second
but this will be a live stream show
it'll be a live stream show
content vlogs ripping packs
we're going to do everything from Pokemon
football we'll jump into some baseball stuff
when we first started doing so with the courtyard,
this is a fun hobby that like,
oh,
I can't believe that this company's going to allow us
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It's been very cool for me to not only fall in love with it
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Like Jackie texted me,
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yo,
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I'll be in the stream tonight.
Jared Beeman's out there.
He's ripping courtyard packs.
The guy knows nothing about sports.
He loves the NBA.
But he loves NBA cards.
I got to,
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We're going to buy cards.
Clump has pulled more better.
He's pulled better cards than me in football since we've started this whole thing.
He's pulled multiple downtowns, big heads.
Like it has been so much fun for the culture of Bustin with the boys, for the culture of the audience,
2026 being the year of the audience, being able to give away hundreds of dollars to fans,
over $10,000 and cards we've given away.
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Right.
The streams are electric.
Last night you almost split up a family with two boys.
I know, dude.
It was brutal for them because one got pulled and it was like a $300 value card and then Taylor
being a generous man was like, we're going to do one additional pull just as you got two boys
here and then the other son pulled like a $700 value card.
And they immediately start fighting on camera.
That's my, no, I'm taking it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And Taylor's like, I'm so sorry to this father.
He was going to have to deal with this.
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we got a cool like out of 15 max crosbie patch auto yeah sick one of 15 one of 15 yeah we got
a tiler shook yesterday too like it was banger bro it was it was a fun time still chasing the chew
i don't think i'll ever not be chasing the chew that has been my hell it's okay you need an enemy
i need a final stone i have that enemy but do we uh even this past weekend like on friday nashville
had its national card show
and there was like 1,400 tables
me and a bunch of the boys went out there
we bought a bunch of cards that are going to be
on the courtyard app at Bustin with the boys app
that we're going to do your own little
area where you can go and pull some of the cards
that we bought. We got a bunch of cards
my kids were there, wife was there,
their friends were there like we just had a great time.
How was old Chris?
I already had to flip. He had to flip his way up to
dude. He did it.
$1,200. Go from $100 or $1,200 or $1,200.
Yeah, so I gave Chris and a couple of the interns $100.
And I was like, your goal today, you have one goal.
And that is to turn this into a $1,000 card, turn into a thousand dollar card.
So they went, sorry, Hickley.
They just kept coming back to me with a bunch of Taylor-Lawand cards.
And I'm like, guys, these are like $15 cards.
Like, you're actually losing money by acquiring my cards.
And then they got a hold of some Camo Pants guy who was like a fan.
He's been on the show.
I've met him a couple times.
He was giving them game on how to elevate their trading, like how they go about the
training process with some of these people, ends up going.
going down to a coin flip with a C&J's cards and collectibles, a friend of our show, when we
picked the cards.
They ended up winning that coin flip.
And after the boys were so stoked, I gave the, I gave C&J their card back.
I was like, hey, I appreciate you guys.
My goal for them was just to be able to elevate enough.
They did what they were supposed to do.
But we don't want to take $500 away from you guys.
Because it ended up being a $500 flip, which was awesome.
Good to win a coin flip too.
Yeah, because we got fucking rolled this review.
I probably lost $4,000 in coin flips.
I was just getting murdered.
And just flipping the coin heads or tails?
Yeah, like Tailing found this card that was like,
I think he did was selling it for like 4,500 or something like that or 4,000.
It was a sick card.
And there was like the pop on it.
Like the population of that card in a 10 was only like, it was less than 100.
So the card has a high chance of being much more valuable as it goes on the road because
there's so few of them.
And I try to get it to like a, I think it was like $5,000 or $3,000 coin flip, loose.
So that's a thousand bucks right there.
went to do packs lost those two one dude had a heavy pack where you could pull a
Lugia first edition in it and he's like yeah this is a this is a guaranteed heavy blah blah
it was like 750 I go would you do 1500 or zero and he's like yeah I'll do that right now
$1,500 lost they were going nuts when the coin flip lost too and then that pack was an absolute
dud there was not even a hollow in the pack and the guy the guy goes to give me my money back
and he's like dude I feel so bad I go that's exactly what I want I want you to be sad
I want you to feel really bad about what just happened
because I feel like to you
and then we laughed and walked away.
He came back with a stack of packs for us.
A couple that you could get some banged or hits in it.
Got banked,
but still an awesome time, dude.
That's awesome.
The coolest card we got was that Kaiju
Cam Ward, bro.
That card, if the Titans ever win the Super Bowl,
which obviously, you know, we think they will.
That card could be,
is going to be worth $100,000 to $300,000.
Bro, this, so, yeah, pull this card up right here.
Is this it?
Yeah, that's the card.
This card.
This is a Kaiju.
So you get these in tops, correct?
Topps chrome.
There's only one recorded sale of this card,
and it's for $14,246.
That's how much this card is sold one time.
So the card's extremely valuable.
It's really cool.
The art's awesome, too.
It's a bunch of Nashville,
staples put in there as well.
Some guy was walking around.
We have a bunch of cameras with us,
so we're attracting a lot of attention.
And said, dude's like, what are you looking for?
I was like, oh, we're looking for like football cards.
He goes, maybe you're interested in this and pulls that out.
And I'm like, oh, shit.
He's like, last sale, 14,000, whatever he goes, but I'll give it to you for 12.
I was like, done.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So we bought that.
We also bought like, you made, or Cade McConnell's little brother's life.
Oh, yeah.
That was awesome.
He's the coolest kid in his middle school now.
Bro, he, and the kid in general is just awesome.
He's got a little attitude about it.
He doesn't like any confidence, bro.
At the wedding, he was an absolute all-star.
Was he really?
Every room he'd walk into just full.
applause. I'll tell you what too. How old is he 11? No, I think he was in eighth grade. I think
he's 14. Okay, he's 14. Maybe just turned 14. Kid knows he's handsome. Oh yeah. Kid knows he's a
handsome little boy because he's got the way he walks around my man I wish I had that kind
of a world when I was 14. He's got the juice like that I was like yeah. Yeah.
Yeah like he's like he's like you just know yeah you just know the girls at his school are
like oh but they love him. Now he's rich. That's why he's why he wanted Jackson Dard
he said some people say I look like Jackson Dardt.
He's got that box.
Oh, he's got the juice, man.
But he wanted the Kajou, Jackson Dart, correct?
That's his or was it or was it downtown?
He wanted the, how do you say, Kaiju?
Kaiju, Kaju, yeah.
He wanted that.
Yeah, Kaiju, Jackson Dart.
And in my brain, I'm like, if we find this, I'm going to get this card for the kid.
I thought this car was going to be like maybe a couple grand.
Luckily, we didn't find it because I guarantee that card's like $15,000.
And I would have looked at him in like, no shot.
I'm sorry.
I like your brother, but not like that.
So we, uh, so.
We start moving around and he like comes up to me as I found a Jackson Dart.
So we go over there.
The guy wanted like two grand for it.
Last sold was like 1600 or 16 or 1800.
There's a few of them.
I was like, oh, it's coin flip.
Like 1600 or 2000, which is crazy because I already talked them down.
And then I was going to, if I lost it, it'd be at the price he was selling anyway.
Lost that one too.
So there's 2000.
I had to give the kid it too.
So it was awesome.
No, that's a downtown.
That's a sick card.
So that's Don Russ.
Don Ross is so much fun to rip
because those boxes are like 60 bucks
Like they're not like super sought after boxes
So they're very cheap
And it's like one in a ridiculous number
To pull it downtown
So anytime I go to Nash cards
All like buy four or five boxes of that
And just rip
What did a rookette?
He got
I think it was just a sign
It was an auto Jackson dart
It was like a red sparkle thing
Yeah it was sick
It wasn't like one of those
Fancy downtowns
Or Khadjus or Uptowns
But dude
It was so much fun.
And it's just awesome to get in the hobby.
Like, I don't want to learn.
I don't want to be like an expert in this game.
I want to like just have a lot of fun and like learn as I go type of thing.
There's a lot of guys that are like, you know, slide the cards over.
Like, got a one of one.
And they'll just know everything.
Like it's just, it's awesome to be live streaming and having these people in being like, bro, you're an idiot.
Like that's a hit.
I'm like, oh shit, it's a hit.
And we look it up, have a lot of fun with it.
So I've gotten way more into the football card game.
That is awesome.
We got some dope cards that are going to be on courtyard pretty soon.
will show off
relatively soon boys
but yes
ripping with the boys
looking for two murderers
and you're not going to be
to be doing ripping
that's not how bustling
what the boys were
you'll be all over the place
you'll be on the dads
you'll be on busing
you'll be on locker room
you'll be on all of it
not looking for actual murderers
yes no
no murder
figurative killers
in the game
yeah yeah yeah
someone just sends me
their like prison thing
yeah yeah yeah I'm actually
a murder
so okay good
well there's a reason
when you're in prison
we'll be done
but yeah I'm fired up
um
speaking of prison
I will
find you is a good show on that.
Hey, yes it is.
I just finished it last night. Unreal.
Both these two have not watched
it. It's crazy. Like the conversation that just happened pissed me off so much.
The thing is like I'm like not jokingly.
Good show on that. I'm not joke.
I'm just talking to you at this point. I'm not jokingly.
Ha ha ha like kind of piss. I'm like legitimately getting mad about it.
Dude, I even tweeted a few. I was like bro,
we just watch. He's had multiple
like you should watch the show. First off, I have no
idea how you have the time to watch all these shows.
It's actually incredible.
He's got, you have the ability to, uh,
manipulate time.
And it's like,
it's like, bro,
just fucking,
just fucking watch Entourage.
And I see it on Twitter and I literally get so,
I put my phone down.
I'm like,
I almost texted you like three times this weekend.
Like bro,
for the love of fucking God, dude.
I'm gonna get to Antirosh.
Yes, I am.
I feel like,
because it's turning to a bit.
It's turning to the thing where you get on your boy so much that
they're just not going to watch it.
That's what,
that's what Will,
that like it's we're on his ass about it so much.
He's like, I'm just not, I'm getting annoyed that I just don't even want to watch.
Right. He doesn't even want to. And when he, if he ever does watch it, it'll be through
the lens of like, dude, fuck these guys. Like this show's not that great. It was kind of Jack,
it was kind of like Shorzy. I wouldn't do that. Like I got a little too heavy on Shores with you.
But then what happened? Backed off. And then I fell in love. Fell in love. It's a great show.
Maybe we got to back off a little bit on. Just let him do. I'm just going to keep the foot on the
gas, dude. Just like, just continue. I'm gonna, I kind of want to be mad about this now. Like,
I want to be pissed off. So I'm just gonna keep going. Hey, it shows gas stuff. Again,
speaking of prison, show is gas. All right. Show his gas. We got a great show for you guys
today, man. If you're looking at my tank top right now, I'm being like, wow, you look incredibly.
You can go to BWTB.com. We got four, uh, Fourth of July merch out now. You guys can go
check all this. You have tied in you a massive week taking place. We got a couple of
tear talks and then we're going to bug you out of here. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.
We got a little response.
We got a little tier talk here from No 3 Sports.
Is parody sports news good for college football?
Good for the college football landscape.
Hashtag tier talk.
I think so.
I think college football especially has become such a crazy and wilder environment.
It's like things you see that are being posted on ESPN, you would think this is clearly parody.
And it's not anymore.
Texas Tech being a perfect example of that.
Did you see there were a couple that I was engaging with over the weekend?
I did.
Yeah.
Where it was a what was it with Nebraska?
Every player they're scrapping kind of the NIL capitalistic side going into the
That's communism right where everybody gets paid the same splitting it evenly
Yeah splitting it evenly.
Yeah splitting it evenly no players gonna get paid more than the other
I'm like I'll tell you this I this is I know this for sure this is exactly what the players wanted
Great day to be a Husker in an American and everybody's like oh will it's a parody account
Then you had a go up to the crystal ball one
He gives away his entire salary to put it toward NIH
because he wants to win a national title.
Oh wow.
He was like, oh, Will, you got God again.
Suckers.
Suckers.
I wonder how long you do this until like people just realize
they stop responding to it.
Some do, but again, then it's like the,
it's like a what, like a double troll?
Yeah.
It's like a double troll.
Then you just gotta sit in the pocket
and not restrained from telling people,
hey man, I know it's a joke.
continue to run the bet over and over again.
What other tear talks we got going on?
This is from Connor Gilpatrick says,
other than Texas Tech and BYU,
who do you guys think have a shot
of the Big 12 championship opportunity
and potential playoff run?
I've got Houston and K-State as my two options,
and I think Houston will go in to love it this year
and beat Texas Tech this year.
K-State doesn't have a shot.
No.
I hate to take it out of Conner's wings right there.
They're not bought into the NIL landscape
like these other schools.
Yeah, pull up up.
It's going to be hard.
You never want to count out Arizona State.
Like we're never going to count out Dilly.
Never going to count of Dilly.
He is creatively, he'll find,
he'll fix any problem on the offensive side of the ball.
You just have to worry about defense
and them constantly running zero
when the game is on the line.
I know, man.
Oklahoma State is a sleeper.
You know, Oklahoma State is a sleeper.
I actually really like Oklahoma State.
Who is the quarterback they got?
Basically, they're.
Messmaker.
Messmaker.
They're North Texas.
Yeah.
They got a good little squad there.
Cincinnati, no.
Baylor no.
Baylor's in an interesting spot
like a Ronda or Randa?
Like he's fully on the hot seat.
He has to win.
And they got DJ Lagway.
So it'll be fun to follow.
West Virginia, no.
Utah, new coach.
UCF, no.
Texas Tech, we can't talk about them.
Tisi, you know.
I think it's going to be,
we have my two would be Oklahoma State and Arizona State.
Does the Big 12 kind of suck?
I'll throw my hat in there.
Well, we said that last year,
but being Baylor.
Lokey, like Texas,
Big 12 might not be like the best conference.
They're definitely not the best conference,
but the games are fun to watch.
Yeah.
They are fun to watch.
No defense.
Yeah.
I think this is, I mean,
given all the stuff that happened with Texas Tech,
I think this is BYU's conference right now.
There's still so much talent on Texas Tech.
They could, they can learn into it,
but those are you can be straight, man.
I think they're still going to be.
They just need Will Hammond to get healthy.
Yeah.
Will Hammond.
He was their backup last year.
Came in for like two to four games.
He tore us.
A.C.L. Right. Yeah, it was lighting it up and then Tories ACL.
He came in during the Utah game, right? Yeah. Yeah. Because that was kind of like, he was kind of nice. Yeah. Had some good back shoulder throws.
They just needs to get out. They got the cats. They got the coaching. They got the money. Yeah. I kind of want Texas Tech to win now. Everyone's so mad at them. Well, it all worked out. It all worked out. And it's such an interesting thing that people are like teams are going. Everyone should just say we're not going to play Texas Tech at anything. When Texas Tech had nothing to do.
with Soresby and Cincinnati
or anything like that.
Like none of that stuff happened
at Texas Tech.
And you're Cincinnati got through there,
clean, man.
Clean.
And you sit there and you're like,
if you're Texas Tech
and you have a guy on your team,
you got to go to bat for your guy.
Yeah.
So it's like you,
you full,
I fully understand Texas Tech's thought process.
The rest of the schools
are trying to stand on business
and trying to set a principal.
Yeah,
on a team that was literally
zero percent apart of any of the things
that reason why Sorbsby had put into it.
Sourceby was on that squad.
True.
Trying to take down the bad guy.
True and fair.
Cody Campbell.
I know.
I do love how to take it out.
Michigan,
I want to say,
got in the mix.
Did they?
Yeah,
did not play.
I saw that the two big was like
Nebraska and,
was it Texas?
Georgia.
I think Georgia.
Georgia, Nebraska.
I saw Michigan.
I don't know who else.
Yeah.
Just like,
hey,
put the ball down and play,
man.
Yeah,
let's put the ball down.
We need something a bitch about
in the off season.
No doubt.
Especially in July.
Like,
we need a couple more flare-ups
in July. Yeah. So we had Sammy D on. Got to have Sammy D. You want to get into it? Let's get
into Sam Donald. Do we have anything else? You had a great Father's Day? Fantastic. How was your Father's Day?
Loved it. I have an individual Clean take. Based on Father's Day yesterday, I enjoy Father's Day more than my birthday.
Oh, wow. I enjoy Father's Day more than my birthday. Clean take. Clean take. I feel like
birthday, it's all about you. But on Father's Day, it's about
all the dads. And it's kind of just a universally known thing that you're like, you're catering
just like on Mother's Day. You're catering toward the dad on Father's Day. Like I slept in,
woke up, Charles had an iced Americano sitting next on my nightstand. She snuck out, got the kids out
of the house, worked out on my own. We went and got breakfast burritos, took Rue to see Toy Story 5,
just me and her. How good? It was awesome. We loved it. We got to work on Rue whispering still
in the theater. She's back. Dad, why is he, why is she sad? Everybody's in here. Everybody's in
watch it and got back swam in the pool while I was gone while Rue and I were at the movie
theater charl cleaned my entire closet it looks fucking spectacular so that was like my my under the
radar favorite gift of the day swam in the pool got answer shout to answer no free shoutouts for
dinner had some prime rib and it was just it was perfect man nice didn't have to do bedtime
beautiful but I did knock it out of the park
outside like putting the covers on all the chairs getting everything cleaned up because it rained
over the night yeah over the middle of night but had a fan I had an a plus father's day god that sounds
awesome sounds like a phenomenal father's day congrats on that man thank you man yeah how was oh my father's day
my father's day was good it was an interesting pocket to be in because father's day was the same day
as tailon's birthday tough yeah so like for me it's how often does that happen I guess once every
seven years every seven years so I would know sorry second second
first first one i don't know we've been married for 10 years so yeah like for me it was like it kind of
like they almost canceled each other a little bit in the way like i'm not a great gift giver in the sense
like i don't i don't prepare well for things so today i'm like i'm like just looking at tailing throughout
the weeks like hey your birthday's coming up like what do you want for your birthday she's like i don't
know i'm i seriously just need to know man we've been married for 10 years i just want to i don't
do this and she's like i'm really not doing anything i just like i just don't know if i really
want anything she's so pregnant like she's literally three weeks away
from like her due date.
So she's like,
I love for this baby to be out of me.
That'd be awesome.
I can't make that happen.
So like we got our card.
We announced we're going to do like a family trip
that's actually going to happen,
JP.
It's actually going to happen.
Where are you going?
As of right now,
it seems like Italy.
As of right now.
It does not make me feel hopeful.
But because it's not Taylorin's fault.
It's so me.
Where I just don't prepare.
I'm still at the end.
I remember last year.
You ain't going to Italy, man.
When you're supposed to go?
When the Super Bowl?
July, I don't know.
When the Super Bowl ended,
when the Super Bowl ended,
we had like, whatever, a week off,
two weeks off, whatever it was,
I'm sitting there and I'm like,
hey, we should go do something.
It's like, yeah, we should,
what do you want to go?
And I was looking up flights
like the next day for Italy.
Or just to go.
It was like $25,000.
I was like, oh, we're not doing that.
Probably should plan for that, dude.
We probably should plan for these things.
So I need to do a better job.
That's definitely where I can be a better husband
is those types of things.
But I'll tell you what.
Dude, you should even just like,
to get the,
ball rolling literally for like a Thursday to Sunday go to Costa Rica.
I'm like that'll get you that'll get it the the wheels like I'm not against move I like I like
traveling I don't know I like going to place because you're getting mixed up you're getting
my want to of traveling and my want to to to prepare for traveling like and poor tailon she's like
on her own she's like we're going to go do this I'm like great I can't wait I'm not a preparer
tail's like not the most prepared person in the world like we're both kind of flying by the seat of her
pants living life man it's kind of sick but i need to do a better job of that so it seems like
italy iceland i think norway was thrown in there as well so now the idea is we have to break
this down we have to get it done but also thing that was tough was like my youngest she's been sick
and got talin and like yesterday was like taylin's worst day of being sick i was like felt like
really bad oh on father's day yeah on father's day on her birthday yeah on her birthday so it's like
to me, I put her birthday over Father's Day for sure,
or just birthdays in general.
The Father's Day is great and it's nice to be loved on and stuff like that,
but like, I don't know, it's like, I'm still do, I still want to do,
I want to like kind of chill for a little bit.
That's like, to me a Father's Day, it's like, I want to just like have no one
asked me to do something for a couple hours.
They don't ask a whole lot, but that's kind of all I'm ever looking for.
Let me help you out.
Go ahead.
Nashville to Iceland direct.
It starts in April 20th.
It's already here.
that was last year
no no no
that's it'll go
it'll go
it's giving birth soon
yeah
got you got you got you
yeah
um
Nashville to Iceland
direct
leave on Friday
you probably get it all done
by Wednesday
probably even maybe on Tuesday
but
then you fly from Iceland
to Norway
two hour flight
then you go from
Norway to Ireland
for maybe three days
and then direct
Ireland back to Nashville
wow
Ireland. We didn't know how to Ireland getting this.
Just if you're going to get a like
another stop on your way back home to your direct
flight back to Nashville.
Of those days, of those days, how many
how many days am I gone? That could be
like a 12.
12th of 14? Yeah. It depends
what kind of trip you want to do. Three countries.
We need to get you just hooked up with a travel agent, bro.
Then you, it's like when we look
at pockets of time that we're going to go on vacation,
it's like you give the travel agent
the information. They book up
the trip for you. And they
kind of tell you what you're going to do or they ask you questions on what you'd like to do
you guys just give answers that's kind of nice then they have it kind of buttoned up for you then
you just go yeah travel agents existed no i know i know i just never i just don't do things
i'm way i'm the same way i know but i yeah yeah i need to be more intentional about that for
sure overall great father's day and and okay i think it was an okay at best birthday for taylor
clump you had a good father's day had a great father's day had a great father's day
Father's Day. Yeah, it was awesome. Same thing. We kind of just relaxed, chilled Toy Story 5, which was a lot of fun. Made some Costco tomahawks on the smoker and some great stakes. Yeah, just chilled. It was awesome. Kids ran around outside. JJ got his flags out, play a little flag football in the front yard. Just chill. Just a nice little relaxing day. Rip some packs. And yesterday was it was the longest day for daylight? Summer solstice.
So now we are in the decline.
Ah, fuck.
Oh, it's bad?
Well, we're good for now,
but we are now trending back towards losing less daylight.
I'll tell you this, dude.
This might be Kevin's such a food clean take.
This has been the best summer, spring we've ever had.
It's been great.
In Nashville history.
It's bad, though.
Yeah.
Now that you said that, I'm kind of with him.
I live right now.
Because I, there's a piece of me that sort of enjoys September.
it's 95, it's fucking brutal.
And you just know, man, falls right there.
It makes you appreciate fall that much more.
Because as I've gotten older, I've been like, oh, I enjoy the four seasons a little bit more
because it gives you something to look forward to.
Still winter, I just can't get on board with that.
But the spring and the fall in the summer, boys, it's awesome.
Yeah, and pool will be open.
You guys, I'll have this baby in a couple weeks.
You guys want to come to dip your toes in the pool.
You're more than welcome.
It's open for you, boys.
It's open.
We feel good.
Shout out big Jeff Simmons.
Oh, shout Jeff Simmons.
Jeff Simmons.
A three-year deal.
Personal friend of mine.
100 plus million?
Huge.
Three year.
Nice.
Shout out him.
Shout out making a shitload of money
before the age of 30.
Now one of the top 10 highest paid
non-quarterbacks in the NFL
and for all those who were very angry
by our graphic this weekend.
We'll get it right.
I don't know if you guys saw that.
No.
We made a graphic for the top 10 highest paid
Oh, and Jeremiah Love was in there?
It had the signing bonus added in for this year.
I didn't even know if we were rage baiting people at that point.
It was actually ahead of the curve.
It was kind of nice, dude.
It was not a rage bait, but turned into it very much so of a rage bait.
And it was really funny to see people's reactions.
Charles Cross is not the number one paid player.
Make us a lot of money, but not the number one paid player.
We'll get it right.
We'll get it right.
We'll get it right.
We'll get it right.
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Our guest today is second time on the show.
Friend of the show, this man grew up on the West Coast,
goes to USC is the third overall pick in his draft class.
Bounces from place to place.
Is he done?
Is he not?
The ring of bust is taking place in his career.
Goes to the school of Kevin O'Connell
and then finds himself in the Northwest Territory
and gets himself a Super Bowl couple of Pro Bowls.
Ladies and gentlemen, please give it up for Sam Darnold.
I mean, buddy.
Wow.
Good intro.
What an intro.
Thank you.
We have grown since 2022.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what's up?
He's afraid to be a backup.
He's left for dead.
Yeah.
Guy, everyone says this guy sucks.
And now he's in.
Dude, how's it feel?
How's it feel to be a Super Bowl champion?
Feels pretty good, man.
Yeah.
Just got the ring.
Got a little,
got a little turf burn on the ring side.
Wow.
Yeah.
Dancing, hanging out.
Yeah, how's the Super Bowl party?
It was awesome, man.
We got Metro boom in there.
So, that's a...
What's a Metro boom?
Are you serious right now?
I'm being...
I know what Metro Station is.
Do you know what Metro Station is?
You say what's a metro boom?
Yeah.
What's a metro boom?
What's a metro boom?
I thought you were kind of messing around.
Oh, no, no, no.
No, no.
This is real.
That's a metro boom right there?
That's a metro booming.
Yep.
Incredible.
He was, yeah, he was with us for the Super Bowl, the ring ceremony.
And just played all of his hits, man.
It was awesome.
So it's good to just hang out with the boys and kind of, to be honest,
it was really nice to just close the chapter, right?
Because it's like you're kind of after the Super Bowl.
You're doing all the things.
going to Disneyland, you know, hanging out with your family and going back home.
Everyone's telling you how great you are.
It's like you kind of want to just like move on a little bit.
You kind of started to with the draft class and OTAs and everything else.
Yeah.
So you start to move on and then it's like we got to revisit the Super Bowl again and get the rings,
which is awesome.
But it's like I just feel like that was kind of the last hurrah where it was like,
all right, now we're good.
We're going to start training for training camp and getting ready for that.
See if you can go back to back.
Yeah.
We're saying run it forward because like run it back.
You know, you don't want to like look back in the past.
You want to run it forward.
So that's kind of what we're saying around our facility and everything.
So but yeah, there it is.
The ring you got the 12 diamonds in the middle of the 12s.
Yeah.
Did it have like a switchblade engagement?
Like there's a button that shoots something out.
Yeah, there was a button on the bottom.
It shoots out like the arches at Lumenfield.
That's insane.
It's insane, dude.
It's getting out of hand.
The rings are getting out of hand for sure.
How has it been for you?
Because again, with the intro, everything else,
like looking at your career and seeing you reignite in Minnesota,
like you were on bus with the boys back in 2022
and having the quote of being like,
you know who you are, you're confident in your ability,
you know you're a good quarterback in this league.
And that was when you were going into your final year with Carolina.
Then after Carolina, you go and take a backup job with the 49ers.
So again, you even had a couple more years of kind of living in that I still know who I am.
I know if I just get with the right team, it's going to be all good.
What does it feel like for you now looking back, knowing you kind of went through all that adversity?
That's right.
Yeah, I think like my dad used to tell me all the time and it's kind of a cliche, but like everything happens for a reason.
And I always believe that.
I always believe like at some point my hard work would pay off.
Didn't know how it was going to pay off.
I didn't know if, you know, if, you know, I wouldn't have the career that I thought I would have in the
NFL and then you know somehow that would pay off being a dad being a husband you know it's it's
it's just when you have that mindset and really from from my point of view it's like being raised the
right way like having great parents having a great older sister to be able to lead the way for me like
that's really that that was the reason why I had that mindset it wasn't because like oh I I know this
is going to help me get to where I want to get to on the field it was just like that's just all I
knew. That's all I know. So I think that's a huge reason why I've kind of had that mindset.
But yeah, I was just going to continue to take every opportunity as it came and understanding that like not with the mindset of like, oh, I got to take advantage of this opportunity.
You know what I mean? Because everyone says that. But it's like understanding, okay, the opportunity's here.
I just got to do my job and do everything I can to just be great and be.
be the person that I know I can be,
be the player I know I can be.
And that was really it.
It wasn't like, you know,
overthinking it or being like,
oh, this is my opportunity.
I got to take advantage of it, you know.
Yeah.
When you're sitting there and you're in Carolina
and then you're going through the free agency process
and you figure out,
okay, I'm going to go to San Francisco
and I'm going to be a backup in the lead for the first time.
And I'm assuming since before even high school
that you're going to be a backup.
Right.
What is that conversation like with your agent?
What's it like with your family,
with your wife?
And then with yourself in the mirror,
as well because we all have like we always play the game at our head when we're going to sleep at night and we're dreaming about how it ends or how our careers go and we feel like we're writing our own story yeah and clearly none of us have written our story like be a backup for a few years and figure it out right so like you're essentially having to have an ego death going back to the state you grew up in a lot more people have access to you again and you went from this guy being the third overall pick to well now he's a backup so how how was that for you in that that off season yeah I think
I think for me it was like just like you mentioned, it was kind of like looking myself in the mirror and just being like, all right, this is what I need to do this year.
You know, I'm not going to get an opportunity to be a starter.
And I think going to San Francisco, I mean, shoot, you guys saw what Mack Jones did this year.
Like I just, I understood that like quarterbacks in that system, quarterbacks with Kyle.
You look at Brock, all the success that he's had there.
Like quarterbacks just thrive in that system.
And it's also because they have really good players, but just getting to know that system and getting to know those coaches.
Like that's really why I decided to be a backup in San Francisco.
I thought that would be the best place to just go.
And people say it all the time and I've heard it.
But like I feel like I got my Ph.D. in football when I went to San Francisco.
And that was such a blessing for me to just be able to learn from Kyle, Brian Greasy, the Kubiaks, Clay and Clint.
Just such a great coaching staff.
and then to be able to not only learn from Brock.
I've talked about learning from Brock quite a bit,
but like all the great players that are over there
in front of the program, George Kittal, Fred Warner, Chris McCaffery.
Like you got all those Trent Williams, of course.
Yeah, you just have all these studs that are over there
and to like learn some of their habits
and like stuff that they do in the offseason,
how they get better.
Like it was just such a great opportunity for me
to just go there and be a sponge
and just learn.
so much football, learn about how to take care of my body off the field. And again, can't mention
Brock enough, but just the way that he prepared really showed me, like, how to really prepare
because, you know, you don't know what you don't know. And I think for me, like, being able to go there
and see, like, how efficient he was. Because, like, you can put a ton of time in, but you could
be doing it the wrong way. And he was so efficient with his time. And he would cut out three or four
hours of like studying throughout the night because that our game plans were were crazy our game plans
are crazy with all the run cans run to pass pass to run run to run like all these different cans
and uh the system is is so intricate and but that was so fun it was so fun to let go learn football there
and i'm so thankful uh for that opportunity that i got in san francisco from from a leadership standpoint
are you sitting there and having to consciously take a step back knowing that are this is brock's team
right now. I am the backup in this situation.
Is there a, I guess, a learning curve for you to get to figure out you're sitting in a
different seat essentially of this team? Yeah, for sure. I think, I think for me, like going
into it, right? Like, that was right after the NFC championship, Brock heard his elbow
against the Eagles. And so I was kind of going in like, okay, maybe Brock might miss the
first two or three weeks of the season. I might have a chance to go in and play, potentially
play good football and continue to build that resume for the next chapter in my football career.
And so that was kind of the mindset going in.
And then Brock obviously has a really good rehab process and he's ready for the season.
I end up not playing meaningful downs, which was great.
I ended up learning a ton.
But the mindset going in was like, oh, I could potentially play.
That was another reason why I went there.
You're kind of hoping he's lazy with his rehab.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
I told him all right.
Lazy to miss like the first couple of weeks.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I would like, you know, kind of put in his ear a little bit like, dude, I don't
think you need to do this today.
Yeah, he don't rush it.
Just take a day off, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
No, but Brock's the man.
I learned a ton from him and Brandon Allen as well.
Brandon Allen helped me a ton throughout that season, so.
Dude, I'm fired up to ask this question right here because we had Coach McVeyon.
Like, I was around Shanahan when he was young.
But having Coach McVeyon, he speaks so highly of Coach Shanahan.
And since you've been from the Jets, an organization like Carolina, you got to taste it with the 49ers, even as a backup role too.
Like as a vet in a backup, you almost have a different observation of seeing how a franchise runs and operates compared to where you've been in the past, where you were the man.
Then you also, you've been with the Vikings and now Seattle.
But what about San Francisco do you feel like you learn so much to where you're sitting back in the backup role, like in the rooms and be like, this organization, this staff, like, has it figured out?
That's right. Yeah, I think to your point, yeah, I didn't even think about that, but you do have a little bit of a wider lens when you're backup because you're not necessarily as stressed, right?
You're going through every week.
You're like, I got to know what I got to do.
You know, got into the playbook.
Got to know, you know, if I go in there, what plays they're going to call and all those things.
But you do kind of get to, you know, see things and notice things throughout the season.
And just that staff, man, I think I think the main thing that I learned was just there was an answer for everything.
Like if one play didn't have an answer for a certain scheme that the defense ran, it was.
like that play can't be in or if that play is in we got to have a can for it if they do bring
this pressure or they have this coverage so i think that was one thing that i learned was like it was
it was going through every single play um with a fine tooth comb and it was so so great to see that for
me because i was like oh man they're they're literally looking at everything that this defense does if
they ran one pressure and it could have been a bus by the defense like if they ran one pressure on
week one and they haven't shown it all year and it's week 10 but we don't have an answer for it
like we're probably not going to run that play and so just the level of detail that they had every
single week was absolutely incredible jesus me out it's crazy because that whole tree of all those
guys it just seems like they just operated like a much higher frequency than the rest of the
NFL from an office standpoint yeah it's that it's that it's that I feel like it's that system too
like that West Coast like there's just with the protections like the the play action protections
the run game like there's rules for everything and the players know it too like if if something
is going to break a rule or you say something in a meeting that isn't quite aligned with how we
installed it in training camp then the players are going to be like whoa whoa we can't do that because
it's breaking one of the rules whether it's in the run game or protection now you know routes you can
get crazy with the routes and they do from from week to week but yeah i think like starting with
the run game and the protection you know we could spend this whole podcast talking about football by the way
um this is great and i know you're just talking about it but it's it's so fun man to talk about this
especially like learning from a guy like kyle um and like i mentioned greasy and the kubiaks
um and then being able to learn from kio as well in minnesota like i've i feel like i've learned a ton of
good football and i'm so grateful for that yeah because i know with my experience whenever i came
to Tennessee and I had like my practice squad year Mike Shanahan was the head coach so I didn't really
have much experience with him but having Jay Gruden as the head coach and then going to Tennessee
when I was sitting back and seeing the way Vrable would run team meetings every morning and talk
about here's how we're going to win the game and the why of how we're going to win the game
and then you're kind of like you know you're not resistant to it at first but you're kind of
questioning like oh is this you know how is this going to play out and then when you see it
play out the whys and here's how we're going to adapt and the
the detail behind everything.
And then when you lose, he's showing you,
we talked all last week about these three keys.
And then he's showing you plays of the keys
that we did not execute.
And you end up losing.
And then when you win, he's showing you,
here's how we won this game
and here's how we're gonna win this next week.
And how it all comes together, you're like,
oh damn, like this dude from a head coaching perspective
from running team meetings has this element
kind of figured out different than other head coaches
that I've played for.
That's right.
And I feel like, yeah, head coaches that are
really good at that. I feel like just, you know, locker rooms gravitate towards them.
Because as athletes, you know, we like to think that we're pretty smart. And there's some smart
athletes out there. But like, we're groomed a young age to like, you know, figure out the why.
Like, why am I doing this? Okay, coach said we're doing it because of this. Okay, I'm good. I can go.
But if as a coach, you can't explain like why we're doing something, then that's, I feel like that's
where you kind of start to lose the locker room a little bit or you lose the offense or the defense.
It's like I think a coach that is really good at explaining like why we're doing things
and like why we're doing a game plan a certain way.
Like that's, I think that's a secret sauce for a coach that can really figure that out.
And the good ones kind of always do week to week.
You know.
Or here why in this situation, why we're going to bend our rule a little bit.
And then they show you what the team's doing to where everybody's like, okay, I get,
I get exactly why we're going to be doing this versus being like, oh, we don't, I don't
drop in this hook area on this coverage.
Why, why am I doing that?
Exactly.
But when they break down the tendencies and everything else,
here's how this rule is going to look a little bit different this week.
Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
Let's just talk ball.
Do a little bit of ball.
Yeah, we can talk defense too.
Like hook,
hook coverage,
you know,
get dropping in the hook,
hook to flat.
Yeah.
Like what keeps you going to the flat or keeps you in the hook?
You got to see one of the best doing it with Fred Warner.
No doubt.
You guys in Seattle have a hell of a linebacker room.
Yeah.
Yeah,
we do.
It's every single week watching those guys work.
And I will say too, like we always say it in our building, but like loose and focused, like our group is just, they are so like during practice, like you see them laughing joking around when they're not in.
And then once they get in, it's like a switch is flipped.
And they're just like, we're rolling.
And I think that's so powerful to have a group that's, you know, because sometimes you get guys that like mess around during the breaks of practice.
And then you get one guy that can lock in.
And then the other guy who's like still kind of in that mode.
So kind of in the jokey mode.
And he's like in there practicing and like kind of, you know,
fucking up a little bit.
But like for everybody on our defense and our offense to like be able to joke around
during practice or not joke around.
I think that's like kind of a bad way to say it.
But like to be messing around during practice like and then all of a sudden everybody's
locked in to doing their job.
And if they don't do their job,
they're pissed about it.
Like to have a group that is all on the same page doing that.
man it's a special group it's fun to be a part of yeah it's it's a it's a cliche of like inside
the lines like you when you're sitting on the sideline you're out for a little bit guys be able
to like kind of switch off for a moment and have a little bit of fun but then getting right
back into it like that's like that's like a learned trait that a lot of guys have how is how is
a McDonald how does he handle the culture of that like does he get on guys when they're like
hey they're not locking in younger guy comes in he sees the vets they're joking around the
sideline so they think it's okay to joke all the time he's getting nip nipped in the bud
Yeah, he's, he is like, I would say he like wants us to be that way.
He wants us to be joking around and laughing.
But like he knows once we're in football.
And I think this is another thing to like having, we call it like our leadership committee.
But it's everyone, you know, whether it's quarterback, tight end, running back, like every position room has a guy that is in our leadership committee.
And we meet almost every week.
and those meetings are so fun, like to be a part of with Mike and just like what he expects us to be like.
And he loves when we're like messing around, joking around, but he expects us like once we're locked into football or once we're talking about football, installing, you know, when we're on the practice field, like he expects us to be locked in.
And if we're not, then he might, he might reel us in a little bit, but he expects us the players to be able to reel guys in.
and that's when like if we don't do that as leaders
then he'll come to us and be like hey guys like we're a little too loose at practice
like we got to lock into these situations and I don't know I think he just does
such a great job he's got such a great feel for the locker room and for the guys and I
think that's that's his biggest trait one of his one of his biggest traits you know
obviously he's a really really good defensive coordinator but you know his ability to just
kind of feel out the locker room and feel
kind of the vibe, you know, because I'm sure you guys have been around coaches that aren't necessarily great at, you know, feeling the vibe.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It's, again, a team meeting and they're all happy, jovial.
And, you know, it's like, coach, we just lost by like 20 point.
Like, what are you?
What are you laughing at joking?
I had the opposite.
We win by 21 points.
And the guy being there, but you guys fucking sucked this weekend.
And it's like, oh, Jesus.
Well, that's a typical.
That's a college approach, though.
I hate that.
There's so much.
Say, hey, let the boys, it's a long season.
Let's have a little bit of fun.
Yeah, but that's what Mike would do, right?
It's like we get up there.
We do this like shadow box thing.
We like hang out with the guys.
We have, you know, he gets there, you know,
one of the other assistant coaches,
Nico Thorpe gets up there and like run some of the team meeting
and run some like competition stuff that we do at the beginning of the meeting.
And then everyone's hooting and holler in.
And then once we're done, we're done.
And it's like football.
We got to lock in.
And that's like Mondays and Wednesdays for us.
What's a trait, behavior or mannerism that you,
that people busts
Coach McDonald's balls for?
Oh man,
I would just say his awkwardness.
Okay.
It's like sometimes.
And he would be the first one to admit it.
Just, you know,
just the,
sometimes like in a team meeting,
like you can see that he's like
thinking about something.
And as players,
like we love it when he does it
because we're like,
oh, like he's thinking,
he's about to like give us something
that we really need.
But like it's taking him a little bit
to kind of,
Because he knows exactly what it is.
He just is trying to figure out like how to verbalize it in front of the group.
And man, he is, he's just the best because he's like, he is so authentic to who he is.
And he's never going to like try to change for anybody.
And I think, you know, as players, like as adults too in the NFL, like you appreciate a coach like that.
Like you appreciate a guy that's just like real.
And he's just going to keep it real in front of everybody and truly be himself.
And he expects us to like if he's not being him like.
He expects us to calm out on it, you know.
So he's a great guy.
But yeah, I think his best trait is, or his funniest trait, I should say,
is just kind of how he is in front of the group.
I think it's amazing.
He's trying to figure it out.
Like, oh, sure, here he goes.
He does, yeah.
He's thinking something here.
He's going to drop a bomb on us in a several.
Yeah.
And then when he thinks, and then it's like not as good as you would hope,
it's like, oh, come on, coach.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You have that one in the bag.
Exactly.
You had us right here.
You just said, you had to bring it home a little bit.
Yeah.
No, he's great, though.
Was it, uh, did you go to your thought process at all when you're going from
Minnesota and you've been to two offensive minded head coaches?
And then you're looking at Seattle.
I'm sure there's a lot of other options as well, but this is a head coach with a defensive
background.
Did that like make you a little nervous at any point in the free agency?
Um, not really, to be honest.
Um, I was really just looking at, you know, the best.
How you get paid.
Yeah, the most bad.
Yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.
Not really, man.
To be honest, it was like whoever signed the biggest checks.
It was, in my eyes, it was, okay, like, obviously you want short-term success.
You want to be able to go there and win.
But also kind of looking at long-term, you know, which was kind of the secondary thought, but,
you know, obviously short-term and then long-term.
It was like, dude, we got a great defense.
Like I played against them when I was in Minnesota.
And I was like, dang, dude, this defense is so good, like, like, so much.
raw talent and just the scheme that we were going against. I felt like the scheme was really tough.
And then, you know, to be able to have Clint Kubiak knowing that he was going to be the
offensive coordinator, knowing that we were together in San Francisco, knowing it was going to be
that West Coast system, man, that was really the draw too. And then a lot of the skill players
that we had, right? I mean, like Kenneth Walker, you know, Jackson, Smith and Jigba. You know,
this was actually before we signed Coop, but Adam Cooper Cup was huge too.
But then even the tight end room, like, you know, AJ Barner, like, that dude is, he's one of my favorite, favorite people on the planet.
And he's a, he's an incredible person.
I'm sure he would love, he would love to have a chat with the boys.
But he is, uh, got to get him on.
He's incredible.
We've been around the boy a few times.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's, he's the best, man.
But anyways, yeah, just, I think AJ's, AJ's actually a great example of, like, what we are as a team.
Like, he is, he is, like, just a football guy, man.
He really like doesn't care about anything else.
He just wants to like continue to get better at football.
Like it is almost to a fault.
It's,
it's pretty awesome to be around.
But man,
it's a fun team to be around.
And,
you know,
I think I kind of had that feeling too.
You know,
when I decided to sign with Seattle,
I was like,
right when I got in the building,
I was like,
oh, dude,
like this place is great.
Like,
you know,
everyone is,
no one's like really tight.
I know that,
you know,
that,
that was kind of,
the thing, I feel like, right?
Like 10, 15 years ago maybe, you know, before I got
in the NFL, it was like,
you know, not necessarily tight, but, you know,
you talk about like the Belichick way.
I know you're with Vrabel early on in Tennessee.
He was a monster.
You know, Flores in Miami.
You'd be tight walking in that.
But you walked, 2018, when Rable walked in the bill,
like, when he was took over, it was like,
assholes were puckered.
Yeah, I kind of hate it playing.
Yeah.
We kind of hate it playing at that point anyway,
but Rable made it that much worse, man.
Which, like,
there's there's an aspect of that that can be good you know there there's an aspect of it like where
you know you you're a little tight and you know it's like oh shoot like I need to be on my game
every single day I walk into this building but we know that and it doesn't necessarily need to be
tight all the time like when you're walking around the building you shouldn't be like
nervous that you're going to see a coach you know what I mean so just to be able to have that
combination of you know that what we say like loose and focus but like just to be able to be loose
around, you know, a guy like John Schneider.
You know, you see the GM in the hallway.
A lot of guys would get tight.
It's like, no, that's a great dude
that you just want to hang out with.
You know what I mean?
And so I think just having that vibe,
like right when I got there,
when I decided to sign there,
it was a great feeling.
So just to be clear,
that image that Mitch just had up a second ago,
that one, that had nothing to do with it.
You're looking for the best opportunity.
I mean, dude, like, it had something to do.
That's kind of nuts.
Yeah, it's got something to do with it.
What was the, bro, is what was the,
What was the feeling and the juice like coming into your body?
Like the years of adversity, the years of like learns being labeled as a bust, like all these things.
Even with Minnesota, JJ got hurt and you got to play that year.
And then you got to win 14 games.
And then you hit the lick of you signed a $300 million deal.
Like at what moment did you ever take a moment to where you're like, fuck?
Yeah, there was a moment.
There was a moment.
You know, right when I, to be honest, like right when my agent called me and he told me that was the offer.
And then there was, you know, a couple, couple others where I was kind of thinking about, okay, do I want to go there or or Seattle?
It was, it was surreal, man, to be able to, you know, have those champagne problems of like, oh, you know, I got some multi-year deals to be able to go where I want.
Like, it's incredible.
But again, there is that.
Thanks, man.
Yeah.
It is sick.
And you're doing, you're doing a great job.
There is that thing though.
I also don't feel bad because you were a first round pick, but then, but thinking of the whole picture.
That's old CBA, that's new CBA.
No doubt.
No doubt.
Speaking to that, it's only like 20 mil.
We had our like first little rookie show, you know, right before we ended mini camp.
We all went to dinner and had like a rookie show.
And, you know, you get guys saying there's obviously like name school signing bonus.
We got guys saying name school signing bonus and what they made in NIL.
Did the NIL stuff.
What have you heard?
What have you heard?
We got to know that.
One of the kids will be like...
Because these kids won't tell us.
One of the kids will be like, oh, my name's da-da-da.
Went here and they're like, oh, I've, you know, got a $20,000 signing bonus.
And we're like, NIL, NIL.
And he's like, 800,000 NIL.
And you're like...
And that fucking nuts.
Dude, what?
They're taking a bank cut to play in the league.
That is insane.
That's what I said.
You want to chase your dream is going to cost you.
Literally cost you money.
I was like, dude, I would do the same thing.
Some of these kids are, I would try to play seven or eight years in college.
Go find the local judge.
Don't give me another one.
Exactly.
Hey.
Will and I have to looking for our COVID year.
Yeah, we're trying to come back.
Yeah.
Go back to college for a minute.
It is fucking wild.
Yeah.
Brennan Whedon.
Yeah, he's a 26 year old rookie.
Yeah, that's right.
Just nuts.
But hey, when you're getting that calling,
your agent's like, hey, Seattle, we got them.
Oh, when you hang on the phone.
A hundred million dollar contract three years.
And you're like, yeah, okay, all right.
All right.
And you're trying to play it cool.
Who's the first person you're talking to?
Who you call him being like, guess what?
Nine figures?
In the bag, dude.
You have a phone number?
My bank account is a phone number.
Not to be corny, but probably my parents, man.
Yeah.
To be able to tell my parents that, like, it was a pretty special moment.
You know, and again, like, there is a point where it's like, yeah, I signed this great contract and it's awesome.
But then it's like, now you got this next chapter of like, oh, now you signed a deal.
Like, you got to go perform now.
And it's like, so like now that's the next step.
And then, you know, after this year, you win a Super Bowl.
and it's like, okay, well, you know, you got to defend it.
You know, how are you going to match that year that you just had?
And it's like, God, can we not just like, yeah.
Can we have to the Super Bowl party?
Should we just stop doing football and we just have to.
But it's great.
We'll be the last ones to win.
It's great, dude.
Like, that's what keeps you going.
I feel like that's what, you know, a guy like Tom Brady, right?
You think about like, dude, like you've won all these Super Bowl.
Like, why not just call it quits?
Like, why do you go to Tampa Bay?
And it's like, shoot, you look at him winning a Super Bowl in Tampa Bay.
but it's like that there's that chase of like that never ends you know what I mean
you're never satisfied of like oh like we won the Super Bowl now like I don't need to really
train that hard like you know what I mean it's like no like I you know took a two week two week
break after I was done with the Super Bowl and then I got back on the bike and started some cardio
stuff like weight training but it was like dude it was great to like get back into training
you know what I mean because like everyone talks about like oh what was the best part about
winning the Super Bowl. Like, when did it like really sink in?
It's like, it never really like hits you.
Like there's never like this moment where you're like, oh, that was awesome.
Not even when the clock strikes zero and the confetti's coming down.
Dude, like, you're hugging, you're hugging Barner and be like, we fucking get it.
You guys are crying.
That was great.
It probably did, but it probably didn't hit you the way that you might have assumed.
No, you're just like, dude.
Too many good movies out.
That's the fucking problem.
The other thing, too, man.
That's right.
You're like, oh, I guess we fucking won.
Yeah.
But dude, the other thing.
That's it.
That's why I ever chasing my.
entire life is this moment. Dude, not to be a freaking douche, but like... Be a douche, dude.
I know, but like, I didn't play great in the Super Bowl. Like, I missed, like, way too many
throws and we still won, like our defense balled out and I didn't turn the ball over, which help,
but like, dude, to like win the Super Bowl that way, I was like, kind of bummed. You know what
I mean? I want to freaking score like, true competitors mentality. I want to score like 40 points,
you know what I mean? Like, I want to go out there and ball out and it's just like, dang,
Like, I didn't play my best football in the Super Bowl.
Like, that sucks.
And you kind of still want to punish yourself by just going through meetings next week.
But nobody cares anyone because you're all right, yeah, I guess.
Have you watched the film back?
Have you watched Super Bowl film?
Yeah.
And what, what throw in that game are you like?
Everybody's out getting, getting blacked out.
And he's just back in his room, just watching the day.
The parade's going on.
He's got the iPad.
How'd I fucking missed that throw?
Like, I just recently, like, it was, it was probably like, you know, right before OTAs, I watched it.
But, but it was really like knowing that.
the coaches are probably going to bring up the tape.
So I was like, I should probably watch this.
Yeah, be prepared.
Be prepared.
Be prepared.
But, dude, yeah, it was, there were a couple throws.
There were a few, actually.
But just there was one early to Jacks when I, it was a third down.
We were beaten protection.
So I had to kind of scramble, make a play.
And Jacks was wide open.
It was a tough little throw.
I had to put some touch on it.
But just overthrew him a little bit.
It would have been a touchdown.
There was, they played zero in the fourth quarter.
I had Sheed.
We actually had it blocked up.
It was like blockable zero and had a big post to Sheed and I just overthrew them to
to juiced up, you know?
And then there was an out route on the right side to Coupe.
I think it was in the third quarter maybe.
But again, it was against zero coverage and it was an easy out route and just missed it.
And it was like, dude, like, how am I going to miss these throws right now?
Yeah.
Are you kidding me?
In the moment are you thinking, what a fucking.
how do I miss that?
Are you like, hey, we'll get,
you're in the next play mentality kind of mode?
No, right away, it's like, how the fuck did I miss that?
Yeah.
Is this?
Are we reliving this?
No, no.
Dude, she's massive move midseason to get, uh, she,
oh my gosh.
And well, you know,
it was a bummer of what happened to Tori Horton, right?
Because Tori was bawling out.
He had a great game against the commanders.
And then literally that next week, he's,
you know,
um, he's got some like shin stuff he's dealing with and he's out for the season.
So we were like, dang.
And Tori's are kind of our speed guy.
and he was taking back some punts early on in the season.
And so we didn't really, you're like, dang, like, you know,
we still got guys that can kind of take the top off,
but, like, we need a real speed guy.
And so John, sure enough, goes and gets sheed,
which was just like, dude, honestly, like,
one of the biggest difference makers for a team last year.
Like, to be able to see, like, the returns that he had,
punt, kick returns, the big plays that he made on offense.
Like, there were a couple plays against the Colts
that he made in a two-minute drive,
that won us that game.
Like he was,
and then just like him as a person,
like coming into our culture.
Like,
he was the perfect guy to come in
because he was just like,
I'm just going to work
and do my thing
and do whatever the team needs me to do
to win ball games, man.
And those are the kind of guys
that you want to,
that you want to go play with.
What a win for him too?
Going from New Orleans,
like they were obviously not that good last year.
But going to Seattle
and winning a championship.
I mean,
I'm not a shot,
and that's just a reality club.
They're just bad.
You know,
he was pumped.
They were trying to have a,
They're popping on bus with the boys.
That's a crazy stray.
I'm like, change the channel now.
But whether you're, I mean, you guys know this, but maybe not, actually.
I mean, you were with a couple teams for a long time.
You were the same team.
But, like, as a guy that's kind of been around for a little bit, like, you want to stay in the same place.
You want, like, stability, you know.
And obviously for Sheed, looking back, he's probably like, dang, I'm so happy.
I went to Seattle.
But, like, I think the dream as a player is, like, you want to stay with the same franchise for your whole career.
maybe maybe not but at least that's what I was kind of thinking no I can like even if we were
trash in New York like I wanted to go and make it right like I wanted to go you know win Super
Super Bowls in New York with the Jets and like obviously that that didn't happen it wasn't in the
stars for me but like that's what I wanted you know that was the dream and so I think there's a
little bit of that maybe that's just me though I don't know I think everybody wants to like I mean
it's just like high school you pretty much play for the same team yeah unless you transfer like I
and then you go to before NIL.
I would actually could call it.
I would have guessed that.
Did I transfer?
Yeah, I would have guessed that.
I'm a loyal cat, man.
I'm a loyal dog.
My dad made me move.
Best move I ever made my entire life.
But NIL, before that, it's like you pick a school.
You're sticking it through no matter what.
So when you get to the league, it's like, we have wherever I'm getting chosen or if I became
an undrafted for free agent, whatever it is.
Like, this is home for the next 20 years, hopefully.
I want to raise a family here.
that whole entire game.
Yeah.
But yeah, I mean, Seattle rips too, dude.
Yeah.
Was there ever a point in your career where like you could have gone somewhere else?
Probably like yes and no.
So in 22 when I signed an extension like, you never got to a free agency.
I never went through the free agency route.
I knew when I would have never said this in negotiations because I wanted to like get the highest contract possible.
But I would have probably taken less money to stay with the Titans because I am so loyal, Sam.
Right.
I'm a very loyal guy.
Right.
Did I not just say that?
You want to stay in the same place.
I want to stay in the same place.
Come on,
dude.
So when I remember sitting with my wife and I'm like, we're doing negotiations and it's like,
they're kind of low balling offers.
And I'm like, hey, I hope I stay here.
But if they don't, I still think this is an awesome place.
Hope we come back here, whatever it is.
But in 22, when I had my second ACL reconstruction and I knew it was kind of over,
like, L.
Like, L. Josh was like, hey, buddy, it's this song and dance for you.
You're done.
And you're like, no, Neil.
I'm good.
I'm good to go.
I'm like, you sure?
And at that point.
I was like I was kind of falling out of love in a lot of ways because I've never really was injured I had like I dislocated an elbow got my tonsils out like those are the only two injuries I ever really had in football so when like I there it is that's my last that's the last time I stepped on the gridiron right that's when you're not
no that's a that's a monster dude getting your tonsils out as a monster when you're older but uh I got a couple calls from like Kansas City Pittsburgh what you got one of the top top right oh that's what I did tear my
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
No, I mean, it's okay.
That's way past me now.
AJ Brown.
That's a tough look though, man.
Yeah, it was a screen past AJ Brown and he didn't get the guy to turn his shoulders, so he
was so pressed on him.
I went to cut and that's, that was the end result.
Everybody's like, oh, it was Taylor OK, like, oh, that's non-contact.
So wait.
Oh, that's not good.
So you're blaming AJ for that one.
Yeah, I think I've, I'll blame me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Blame AJ for tearing my ice.
Clip it.
Clip it.
This is the tonsils right here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What are we doing, Mitch?
Why are we all?
Why is this on?
I'm just showing with the internet show.
Nothing worse than a face mess on the back.
He's like, yeah, they're definitely inflated.
We got to get them out of here.
That second row left one.
That's the worst injury of all.
Doubt, dude.
Oh, dude.
My buddy had that.
Okay, so you're aware.
Dude, in Bali.
He said it was like the,
worst thing he's ever felt in his life.
That's all I need to hear. And that's how you get it back on your side.
People want to know pain, dude. Get you some gout.
Have a little too much wine and a little too much red meat, Sammy.
I'm surprised you can get gout after the Super Bowl, dude.
That's right.
There's that one right there.
Anyway, what the fuck were we talking about, boys, huh?
Want to stay with the same team.
You want to stay with the same team, dude. And that's sick.
I got to say, I got a same team question.
Yeah.
Were you really hoping that it would work out with Minnesota after your 14-win season?
And also, did you feel vulnerable going in the free agency,
knowing how the year ended?
And everybody's putting the boogeyman question mark,
came Sammy D, win the big one.
Yeah, I think for me, like Minnesota was amazing.
That's a great question, by the way.
Hard-hitting question.
But for me, like, I think, you know,
having success in a place and, like, getting to know the guys in the locker room,
right?
Like, of course, of course, like, you want to make that work.
But like shortly into negotiations, it was like, all right, this isn't going to be the spot.
You know what I mean?
How did you know that?
Because it was like they might have offered a low like one year or something?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And for me, too, like, I'm not one of those guys where I'm like spiteful.
Like I get where the GM was coming from.
Like I totally do.
Like you see it with a lot of teams.
Like you saw it with San Francisco.
You saw it with Houston for a little bit like with CJ.
um like these rookie quarterbacks and their rookie deals like trying to strike hot while you have a
rookie quarterback so that you can pay other guys around him to get the team really good um like i i get
that part of it and i get also drafting a guy in the first round and and you know understanding and
having a belief um that he's the guy and so for me it was like i kind of had to put that hat on
where it's like i understand like i totally get where they're coming from and again like
going back to the beginning, like everything happens for a reason.
Like there is a part of that too where it's like, okay, I'm just not, I'm not supposed to be in Minnesota this next year.
And like that's okay with me.
And so to be able to be able to find that next spot and like getting my mindset to be like, okay, where am I going next?
Like into to have an open mind with that conversation for myself, right?
Like having those conversations with myself, like to be able to have that open mind of like, I'm going to go somewhere else and I'm going to go have success.
there. I think that that took a lot of, you know, really a few days of conversations with
myself to be able to get myself to be like, okay, like this is the next step and it's going to be
great. So, yeah. Are you able to share what the one year offer was? No. Why not? What do you
mean? Why not? What do you mean? What do you mean? What do I mean? I'm saying you already
signed with Seattle. You've won a super? He's in the barn, buddy. They got nine now and Kyler
Murray. Over under. Oh, it was a fun game. You should play this game. It's fun. Over
under 27 and a half.
Dang,
27 and a half.
It's a good number.
How'd you,
how'd you land on that?
I don't know.
I'm kind of,
I was looking at the,
I was looking at three or a hundred million.
Yeah,
no,
that's a good number.
So that's like in the 30s.
And then if they're coming in
at a low ball,
I think you nailed it.
I think you nailed it.
Stay with me.
Okay.
I'm not gonna answer.
Why not?
Say it's not.
No,
so over under 27.
And half,
that's a good number.
That's a good number.
I love the show.
and I'm not, you know, I would love to, you know, have a clip here of me saying the number.
I think we got the clip.
Did you?
I think we got it.
I think we got them.
I mean, we've always been a gotcha type of media company.
So this is exactly right.
We're trying to get them right now.
What other teams that were in free agency coming at you?
That's also a great question.
You can't even say what the other teams were that?
No, I mean, I don't, you know.
Can we guess colors and you just tell me yes or no?
Yeah.
Yellow and black.
Oh, potentially.
Oh, I'm going to get the potentially.
Boys being nasty.
Let me ask you this question.
No.
Got you.
Oh, got you.
I think.
He goes, no.
But I know if it was a full.
Anyway, let me ask you this question.
Why do you think it's a big deal to answer those questions?
I just don't think it's fair to other people that are.
offering me something or in the position to be signing other players and you know I just don't think
it's fair for other people was there ever a chance you could have been in Nashville um
that would have been a good spot I love it here it's really hot right now but it is hot yeah I would
you know yeah Nashville's a great spot Thursday will
Thursday will and I were in the truck we got in a truck it was 111 degrees
according to his truck.
And we're driving and we're like,
imagine if we were playing football right now,
how awful this would be.
And then we looked at the time and date,
it was like, oh shit,
like the tides are literally on the field.
Right now.
Were you the guy that had like water seeping out of your sweat,
like seeping out of your cleats?
I was a sweaty boy,
but there was like guys that were way sweatier than me
that I never took that title.
Okay.
You know?
I was just say you were a pretty sweaty guy.
I was a sweaty boy.
I would lose weight like a motherfucker.
Yeah.
It's also tough being over 300 pounds and, you know.
Thank you for understanding my truth.
You kind of have to be a sweaty guy, right?
Yeah, you gotta be a sweaty guy.
But like Corey Levin, a friend of the show, The Muffin,
he was a guy that would have to change his pants.
Nasty sweaty boy.
Nasty sweet.
I was a classy boy.
Yeah.
Still a difference.
Yeah, it's still a difference.
Well, the worst was like having a center that sweated a lot.
Yeah.
That would be the worst.
That's his boy right here.
Is that Levin?
He's a center.
Yeah.
Levin, he's a center.
That's why he's changed his pants.
It's not his decision.
It's a quarter.
Who's the worst center when it comes to sweat in your career?
Oh, man.
He's going to appreciate this show.
shout out, but Jonathan Harrison, when I was with the Jets, he was a sweaty, sweaty boy.
And then Spencer Long as well.
Spencer Long, Nebraska guy.
Those guys with the Jets because New Jersey got pretty, New Jersey got pretty damp, pretty
humid during training camp.
So those guys would both.
I remember also I think it was a little bit of me being young of like, dang, like, I don't
if I can throw this football, like the NFL ball's a little bit bigger and it was like wet
after getting it from Spence.
You know what I mean?
So I was like,
spous was funny to be around too.
Am I going to have to like wear gloves like Teddy?
Like what is,
you know what I mean?
But no,
they were great,
man.
They were great like honestly changing pants was a game changer.
You know,
when they started doing that for me.
That's love.
That's real love when you got a center that can change pants for you.
That's love.
Because it's a majorly inconvenient,
especially during camp.
Yeah.
When you have to go in there,
change the pants.
It actually might be a nice little.
Well,
no,
they brought pants.
pants out there. He's not like going back into the locker.
Yeah, but you still got to do it. There's the braces. Did you as you do braces everywhere
you've been? Um, I don't think so. That's kind of nice. That's not yeah, I didn't really
pay attention to that. They would make us wear knee braces after like my third year. Yeah. It was
horrendous. Yeah. So the thought of a guy switching pants would be a horrible. Did you have to
wear knee braces in college too? Yeah. Yeah. I don't wear knee braces in college.
We need to wear it college and practice. So I got so used to I was like, oh, this is
just being an office of lineman. And then I remember going out to my first camp practice at the Titans.
and I put my knee braces on that I had from college.
And Michael Ruse, who was a 10-year vet,
he was playing the position that I was essentially there to take over.
He laughed at me and he was like, hey, it's so fast here.
If it's going to go, it's just going to go.
Like, you might as well be fast enough to get through it.
And I'm like, yes, sir, Mr. Roos.
And I just took those braces off.
And never looked back.
There he is.
There's nothing like it in college walking up around the old line group
and just hearing him bitch about the knee braces.
Oh, bitch about everything.
Everything, dude.
Which like, I'd probably do that too if I was terrible.
It's awful.
I didn't say it in a way to where you feel bad for him,
but it's just a, it's such a funny environment to be around
when the old linemen just get going about something.
Yeah.
Oh, of course.
Well, that's their outlet, right?
It's like they don't, you know,
you guys don't get a ton of credit.
No, we don't get to score touchdowns.
They're like, cattle out there moving around the field.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they always, like, I don't know why they always bury the office alignment the most.
Like, at the time, you saw Keith Carter,
the way he treated us.
Yeah.
We were whipped dogs out there.
Yeah, we're going through a couple bags.
And you look over at the old line and they're just,
we're just drenched and sweat.
And he's like, our best period has to be team.
And I'm thinking then why, why are we going this hard
in an individual if you want to be the best period?
Taylor, you got to get better.
I'm trying to get better, dude.
Don't even put him up on the screen, dude.
Can't stand that guy.
See, I'm not a fan at all.
I've been actually very verbal about not liking Keith.
Wait, but you look great now, by the way.
Thank you.
Thank you, Sam.
I appreciate that.
How much weight have you lost since playing?
60 pounds.
I was like 308, 312.
And I'm in that two mid-250s category.
So you had to work hard at like keeping weight on, or not
Oh, I'll keep you weight on?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like, I was 24 my first time I waited at Michigan.
And then when they told me I was done, like, in three weeks, I was 285.
It got to the point where Will and my wife sat me down is like,
you actually need to gain weight.
You're starting to look like someone could take you.
And I was like, oh, when you got down like in the 40s?
Yeah, I got in the 40s.
And I honestly just felt good.
Yeah.
I was like, I enjoyed it.
I could like see it for the first time.
I'm like, oh, my God.
And so, like, I was kind of living.
You weren't, you weren't doing the, you know, the,
see it for the first times.
Were you never you were never a bad body alive.
No no no I was ever bad at that that's a great angle for the board right there that's a good angle
Is that just you the red sleeve is just hiding the tribal or what's going on no dude? I just
I just started yeah I started to get a little more all right about me dude that's that
Is that post uh jano josh Norman oh yeah I think that's you level up dude every every cornerback
I took in my day was like a little all out of spat now out of visor now it was like scalps
dude.
Yeah, exactly.
That's great.
Dude, that is so funny.
The amount I get commented about this.
Have you,
have you seen him since?
I haven't.
I haven't.
Dude,
so I've told the story multiple times.
This situation happens, right?
Sorry.
Sorry for asking.
No, no, no.
This is your show.
This happens.
And there was a guy named Ryan
who owns a hang Tennessee,
which is a merch company.
Okay.
They sent him a t-shirt that says,
Taylor Luan is my dad.
Somebody found his address and sent that.
The next year,
I fail for a P.
So Josh Norman takes a piss cup and sends it back to Ryan.
That's good.
And I think he got the last laugh and the whole thing.
Yeah.
Which is nuts too because I wasn't a huge fan of him because of the way he like, the reason
why we got into it was because he like tried that Gator Roll Derek Henry and like a four
minute.
And I saw it and I was like, we're not doing that here.
But Will played with him, knew him well.
And I knew a bunch of other guys like, hey, Josh is actually a great guy.
Yeah.
He's actually an awesome dude in Carolina.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He came back to Carolina.
How was that?
He was great about.
Did you bring me up?
No, no.
I don't even, does he even know, I don't even know if he knows your name.
That's, that's tough.
No, he definitely knows you.
Josh is the man, dude.
We got to get him on the bus eventually.
You got to, dude.
It would be great.
Especially now, you could be a good, like, mediator for us.
Yeah, yeah.
Sit there.
You both, you guys host and we'll be your guests.
Yeah, no, that'll be good.
So I remember back in the day, like shooting him a text and I think asking him.
I can't remember what he said, but it was kind of like a no.
Yeah.
I'm thinking, bro, I'll be the guy in the middle.
Yeah.
It was like me talking about the contract situation.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if I do come back on and, you know, host with Will and, you know, you and Josh are sitting here, then I might have to get some coin.
You know what I mean?
Oh, you need.
Might have to pay me.
I'm just saying.
You try to get paid.
I'm just negotiating.
We'll talk about it later.
How much do you need?
Well, that's a different story.
We don't have to get into that.
What is your number?
What is my number?
What's my contract right now?
A hundred point five.
You know what it is.
You know what it is to the team.
Yeah.
So like somewhere.
If a brand's making you fly somewhere to do to do something for a day, what is your?
And this is actually a good question to answer.
Probably like 2.2.
To fly and do something?
No, no, it's not that much.
Hey, yeah, I gotta like that.
I kind of like that.
You know, you don't want to start too low
and then you negotiate down.
Right, right, right, right.
I want to say like two and then you guys say.
Yeah, you want to anchor the same way.
And then you guys say like, all right, like 5K maybe.
Free flight.
Yeah, yeah.
Free flight.
Free flight.
Bagels.
No.
When I was hit Sammy up, when I was trying to get this podcast done, I texted you or DMD you and I was like, hey, we'll pay for your flight.
We'll buy your flight.
I don't know.
It's okay.
I already be out there.
So I was negotiating against myself.
Yeah, you were.
The whole entire time.
Well, I got to pay for something.
And then you're like, I got here.
You're like bagels and OJ.
Yeah, I didn't even plan that.
Actually, I was just playing the raw dog yet.
Just bring you in here, no food, nothing.
You're planning to what?
Yeah.
You heard me.
Samud D smooth.
Tonsils is tonsils, man.
He had me believe.
You saw it happened last time I had bad tossles that photo.
It's good stuff.
See me,
he had me believing that he just came out here for us.
He's smooth.
What,
yeah.
What else?
He said he was already going to be out here when you talked about
negotiating against yourself.
Yeah.
Like, hey,
we'll fly you out here.
He's like,
oh, I'm already going to be out there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What are you doing out here?
What do you mean?
What are you doing here, boy?
Visiting the boys.
Just hanging out.
Actually,
just wanted to come and get a little.
You know what happened?
So this is actually great.
I,
So obviously during the playoff run, you guys hit me up.
Okay, I'd love to let me get you on at least like a Zoom or something.
And I said no, right?
I was like, I was like, I'm going to, everything that I do, I'm doing with the team.
Whatever the team wants me to do, I'm doing.
But other than that, like I just want to lay low.
And so when you hit me up this off, because I remember saying, oh, yeah, we'll do something in the off season.
And you hit me up, what was it, like two months ago?
Yeah.
Three months ago.
And I was like, oh, fuck, I got to do that.
I felt so bad about not doing it during the playoff run.
We got it. We understood.
It was honorable.
For sure.
It's honor of you to feel bad.
But even if you were like, hey, it's not going to work this off season.
The next time you wanted to come on bust some of the boys, I would be like, no.
Yeah.
I would be like, no fucking shot to say this.
But I said, oh, I'm going to do it this off season.
And then when you, when you had a DM me, I can't believe you don't have my number, by the way.
Yeah, well, that's on both of us.
It is.
Two NFL guys just trying to communicate with each other.
But it was, it was just crazy.
Like, I was like,
had pretty much my whole off-season schedule planned.
And then you shoot me that text or DM.
And I was like, oh, man, like my whole calendar is basically, like, filled.
I got to figure out a weekend to be able to come on the bus because I don't, I already said I would be here in the off season.
So I, uh, I did.
I owed it to you guys to be able to make it here.
And I did.
And I'm making it a great weekend, though.
Like, we went out to dinner last night, had a good time playing golf this afternoon.
So it's good.
What dinner spot you hit?
I went to Abba.
ABA?
I know the name.
Is that the...
Oh, I think, yeah, Bryce Harper is the one that said that place for us.
It's elite.
Some would say it's elite.
It's very good.
Okay.
I think it's like Mediterranean.
Oh shit, I've been there twice.
It is there.
Yeah.
Hey.
How they get the Christmas trees up in the ceiling?
Dude, how did they do that?
How do they do that?
Is this it right here?
Yeah, dude, it's awesome.
Look at that.
Look at that.
It's like, you know what that is?
You know what?
That's Harry Potter.
for people with money dude that's what that is it's good man it looks unreal you guys did you guys did
switch the AC off didn't you yeah yeah he's got was hot in here first nice I like it get a little
sweat yeah what kind of sponsorships come your way after you win a Super Bowl you said 2.2 I know some
Bud Light was a good one shout out Bud Light dude shout out Bud Light clean crisp and delicious
yeah so I did a little thing with them after the after the Super Bowl for the parade I had the goggles and the
that working so that was a good one uh you got them all up right there that's perfect
bows uh pinini okay not not with nike k jeweler um k yeah i did something with kjulers before my
rookie year with my mom really yeah that was like a mother's day thing that was fun um
but yeah i'm i'm very uh yeah very i'm very picky nowadays with my uh with my marketing stuff
I like being a free agent.
You know what I mean?
I like kind of being able to do whatever I want.
If you could have one company sponsor you, what would that company be?
Oh, man.
Because I got a list for me if you want to hear some brainstorm ideas.
I should have, dude, you guys got to send me the questions next.
We don't even know the questions.
We don't know.
We don't do a whole lot of preparing.
I told you how much I looked into.
I know.
Taylor came up to me for everyone listening.
You know, he was like, he came up to me this morning.
Yeah, I read a lot about your grandpa.
this morning.
Dick Hammer.
I like went in and I was like,
let me go back and listen to a little bit of the podcast.
And then something Dick Hammer came up and I'm like,
this can't be real.
This name can't be real.
And then learning all about it,
that's what I spent my study time on the Sam Donald podcast,
learning about Dick Hammer.
Your grandfather.
Well, this is the time now.
If you have any questions about Dick Hammer,
like with all that studying that you did, you know,
the research.
Maybe your greatest sponsor is right there.
Marlboro.
That would be sick.
be that would be bold bring back
you can't even do commercials anymore but like do
like a I don't know I think YouTube you can do
commercials for that can't you?
Something we can make one
Yeah we'll make a marble we had a green screen right back here
Put a cowboy hat on you God you guys got it all here man
Yeah thanks dude we got it all we got a good set of boys around here man
Yeah that's good so Marblos
No probably not
Probably not yeah I don't even think are they even doing commercials anymore
They can't I think there was a legislation was passed and like
the 80s or 90s or 2000s.
They can't do that anymore.
This dude's a badass.
He's a badass, right?
I don't know.
I don't have any like any brands that are really speaking to me, you know,
nothing that really comes in mind.
I want to just keep an open mind.
Do you guys feel like there's any brands that would be good for me?
For our company?
For me.
No, not for you.
Oh, for you?
For me.
What do you love to do?
I'm a guest.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
Sam, I love how you're now owning the position you sit in.
What do you like to do?
You like to golf?
Like to golf.
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Okay, so probably golf stuff.
Golf stuff.
Call me a crazy person.
I like to drink beer.
Okay.
Bud lights are not during the season.
Of course.
Only on the weekends.
Responsibly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, I like to.
What's the best golf brand?
Calloway.
I mean, title is pretty good.
Titleist.
Yeah.
Are they a sponsor?
I've worked with them before.
Okay.
I got my Scotty Cameron.
shirt on. All right. Yeah, I see you bringing up free shadows on the bus. That's crazy.
No, no, no. It's kind of, no. It's got a wild. You asked. Yeah. Yeah. But if you would have
won the Super Bowl before it, the production took place, you could have probably been on Happy Gilmore, too.
Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Happy Gilmore too. Do you guys like that? It was, you know, it was good.
It was fun to have some. A lot of cameos. Yeah. A lot of cameos. Yeah. I'm a big Adam Sandler guy, though.
So I think, yeah. He's incredible. He's amazing. Oh, my God. He's amazing.
If you could be in somebody's movie, what actor or actress?
That's great.
I got to meet Chris Pratt, big fan of the Seahawks.
I think he's great.
If he asked me to be in a movie or a show, I would no doubt.
I would no doubt take that opportunity.
Will Ferrell is another one for me.
Hard to beat Will Ferrell.
Yeah.
Like I grew up just loving all this movies.
You got to sit with them, right?
Like on a pod?
I had a podcast in college.
Yeah.
It was not great.
I was not a great interviewer, believe it or not.
Really?
Yeah.
And Will Ferrell was what?
He was like your first guest, wouldn't he?
Will Ferrell was one of them.
Yeah, one of the first guests.
That's insane.
He was great, awesome.
You probably had to be nervous of shit, dude.
Well, I was just like, dude, when people come up to you, do they expect you to be, like, hilarious?
And he's like, dude, that's one of my pet peeves.
It's like people laugh, make me laugh clown kind of thing.
You know what I mean?
Like, they all expect him to be funny.
And which he is.
Like, he's a naturally funny dude.
But he's also like, I'm a normal person.
Like, I don't have.
to be funny all the time yeah you know yeah but yeah he was he was a great guy or is a great guy so
yeah man you play with a lot of great wide receivers back to football who's your top three
top three receivers you've ever played with in no particular in the order in the order
in a particular order in a particular order um no particular order i'm gonna go no no no no i'm gonna go
Here's your one.
This is your three right here.
J.S.N.
J.S.N.
J.S.N.
Three.
Jason's three.
Jason's three.
J.S.N.
Justin.
And then DJ more.
Okay.
Jordan Addison is close to.
He's in the mix.
Jordan Addison.
Help me out my fan.
You can throw the deep ball
to one of those guys
who you throwing it to.
Got to go JSN.
The way that he can track a football
and make you look good as a quarterback.
You're on the 15-yard line,
Red Zone.
Who you throwing it to in the end zone?
J-Sone.
I mean, dude, you know the drill.
Yeah, I feel you.
I'm just, I'm gonna make sure we have all the fodder that you go against Justin.
Who would be number two after JSN?
Uh, Justin.
Okay.
Justin, you and J.S.N are hanging out of the bar.
Things start going south between J.S.N. and Justin.
Who are you backing up?
They're about to swing on each other.
My teammate.
All right.
What do you mean?
You're fighting Justin Jefferson.
Yeah. I don't know if, you know.
Does it, does that?
I don't know.
I don't know who would, I don't know who would win that fight.
I think Justin's got me in reach.
Yeah, Justin's got reach, but Jason, he's got a stronger, a stronger build to him.
Yeah, Jason's, he's stockier than people think.
He's sturdy.
Sturdy, I think, yeah.
It's kind of like he will.
Yeah.
Stocky.
Stocky.
Yeah, got some shit to him.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
He does have some shit to him.
It's awesome.
He does.
He does.
What else we got?
Who's the highest IQ receiver you've ever played with?
Dude, that's good.
J.S.N. is up there for sure.
Really?
But, I mean, highest IQ by far, I think, is Cooper Cup.
The way, I mean, he's in the quarterback room 24-7, thinks like a quarterback.
He's telling me, hey, if the nickel's doing this pre-snap, like, this is the coverage that they're running.
So, yeah, it's awesome to have him on our team.
Are you bummed that Kenneth Walker's not back on the squad?
I love Ken.
Ken's a great dude.
Incredible teammate.
funny.
You guys got to talk to him at some point, but he's hilarious.
But, yeah, I mean, John's got to, John's got to do whatever he's got to do.
Free agency is going to free agency.
And then also Ken's got to go make his money.
You know what I mean?
So, all right?
Yeah.
Just sit in it for a little bit, dude.
I love it.
No, we can cut it up.
cut up the awkward silence.
No, I love the awkward silences.
In that small phase when you're in Minnesota,
and you're playing the last two games of the year,
and that last game, you're playing for the one seed,
and it does not go your way.
And then you get bounced by the Rams.
Is there ever any doubt that creeps in your mind
when there's a lot of criticism taking place on you?
Like after losing the one seed?
Yeah, after losing the one seed,
then you go in the playoffs as a wild card.
You lose to the Rams.
Now you're in.
after losing the wildcard game.
Yeah, I think
like those last couple games, I played horribly.
The last game against Detroit
and then the last game, obviously,
against the Rams and play great.
So yeah, yeah, that's a good one.
That's not a fun photo.
That's a man.
I'm sorry about that.
That's good.
No, no.
Don't apologize.
He was about to defend it.
No, that's good.
But, no, there's,
There's, I think like with anything, right, like you're going to have doubts about something,
whether, you know, it's a podcast, whether it's going out there and playing good football.
Like, you know, there's a little bit of doubt, but it's about like how to quiet that or like how to be able to,
I think the belief and the trust that I have in myself outweighs any doubts that I ever have.
I think that's the better better way to say it.
Because like to sit here and say that I never had a doubt, you know, I'd just be lying to
you guys which I would never do that never do that never do that we're too close yeah
too much character yeah if there's a how do you how do you how do you when those
doubts creeping because you have to believe have belief in yourself but at all at some
point there's always like discover like am I who I really think I am how do you
process that and get over those emotions because there's probably some younger athletes
listening to this right now watching your journey watching your story being like hell
hey that's amazing what he's been able to do that probably have those doubts
creeping just like every athlete does yeah and don't know the right path for
them to get through it. Yeah, I think first of all, like, knowing that you're having those thoughts
and I think something too to be able to say out loud is like everybody has those thoughts, right?
Like, you're not the only one that's doubted yourself. And I think to be able to have that doubt,
but also like let that kind of fuel your like work and your process. That's what's, that's kind of
what happened with me. Like it's, I don't necessarily need more fuel to work harder, but like to
have, you know, people doubt you, or for even yourself, like for a little bit of doubt to creep in
to just allow that to kind of fuel you to be like, all right, like, I'm doubting myself a little bit
probably because like I'm not prepared enough. Like I should have worked a little harder and prepared
a little bit more for that Lions game or that Rams game to, to put myself in a better position to
to go out there and play well. And so I think understanding like why, like understanding why the
doubts creeping into your brain is like the number one thing you got to figure out, which I think
is really tough to your point. Like it's tough to figure out like why I'm having these thoughts about it.
So I think sitting down like having those like I mentioned earlier like having those tough conversations
with yourself to be like, all right, like, why am I thinking this way? And to like better understand that,
I think you kind of get to the root of it
and you can figure it out pretty quick from there.
Start one, bench one, cut one.
Kubiak, O'Connell,
Shanahan.
The gotcha.
You guys are the gotcha podcast.
We're trying to change this year.
We're trying to become that.
It's good.
Well, they're all great in their own right, right?
You guys can kind of feel where I'm going with this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How's Kubiak going to do in Vegas, you think?
I think he's going to be great.
I think I just saw him actually at the ring ceremony.
How's he feel about Mendoza?
He feels great about Mendoza.
He loves his quarterback situation there with Kirk as well.
Like just being able to have like Kirk help the rookie is going to be such a blessing for that kid, man.
Like kind of the same way my rookie year I had Josh McCown.
Just to be able to have like that, I don't know, just like that like constant like those,
that guy to just be able to bounce things off of like again like we just talked about like when you
start having those doubts like to be able to voice that to a guy like Kirk and a guy who has lived it
and has had people doubt him in the past he's probably doubted himself at some point like to be able to
have that as a young player is you know so valuable so valuable but yeah I think Clint's
going to be great he's got such a I think the biggest thing is like as a head coach you got to have a
level head on your shoulders. You got to, you got to be able to like, okay, something goes wrong.
Like he's never going to like overreact to anything, you know, he's going to keep it steady.
And I think for for the players, like that's such, that's such a blessing to be able to have a guy
who's leading you, be able to have that mindset and be able to have like that level head is
incredible, man. I think he's going to do a really good job. And his system's incredible,
his offensive system.
And I think they're continuing to find the right players to be out there.
So it's been a hell of a duo in the QB room.
Yeah.
Though Kirkland's and Mendoza.
Yeah.
That stepbrother thing they did was pretty incredible.
What could we expect from Sam Donald in 2026?
Yeah, Brian Fleury.
Running forward?
Flurry's been great.
Yeah, I think the biggest thing is just like continuing to build off of my weaknesses,
understanding like what I wasn't great at this past year, which I think for me is just like,
you know, continuing to hone in on the deep ball, like understand like how I can get better
that way, quieting my feet in the pocket. I feel like, you know, I'm a little twitchier.
And so sometimes that kind of wants to creep in a little bit when I'm in the pocket. So like
being able to calm those feet down, just go through my progressions. But I think another area to grow is
just like the turnovers. I thought I had too many turnovers last year. So just can,
continuing to like, kind of like I did in the playoffs, but just like continuing to have the right mindset on like first and second down.
Keep the big boys happy and get the ball to my hands.
Like that's a huge, huge part of being a quarterback is like understanding what issues you have up front.
You know, like understanding like the past rush and are they rushing five or like got to get the ball out of my hands.
Being able to get to the checkdowns earlier, like just little things like that, I think are key to be able to focus on as a quarterback.
back and but again like I'm still growing continuing to learn like how to great OTAs had a great
mini camp so just got to keep stacking man keep stacking good days and and you know I think that
one of the bigger things too that I've learned like just not getting too ahead of yourself you know
because you can think about the season and what's ahead and what you need to do to get to that next
step but it's like just take it one day at a time you know one thing that you can kind of look a little
bit forward to. A lot of news took place last week about the LA Rams and the new acquisition of
Miles Garrett. Kind of fucking terrifying, right? He's a really good player. He's a really good ball player.
He's a D. Yeah. Good ball player. Yeah. I mean, if there was ever a human being.
That's the owner of a manican. And Donald might be coming back. And Donald might be coming back.
Yeah. Yeah. You talk about keeping those big boys happy. We need some, we need not only Christmas gifts.
We need training camps. Yes. Well, you want to talk about getting the ball out. Yeah. Yeah. Got to get the
ball out. I mean, it was that when you saw that news, you're on the goal. You're on the goal.
of course.
You look at it.
I was.
I was actually.
Yeah.
I mean, dude, he's a, he's a really good player.
I'll tell you what, though.
Like Jared Verse is a really good player too.
It's a good poll.
You know, so yeah, I think you're going to go up against great players in the NFL.
And again, I don't think we play them until week 16.
So like, we play them week 16 and week 18.
So like, we'll see them later in the season.
But yeah, I mean, they got a great squad.
They've had a great squad, you know, for a few years now.
So we'll be looking forward to that challenge.
But yeah, he's a, he's a beast.
Yeah, he is a beast.
That was a beast media answer.
Dude, that was fucking, that was a beast.
I know, you guys are, you guys are like trying to get me to crack or something.
I don't know.
No, no, I like it.
We got some fan questions here.
This was from Tyler Liddy.
What is the craziest thing Sam has had to autograph?
His second year, he signed my friend's speeding ticket.
He got driving to Jets practice that has been framed since and hangs up in his apartment.
Does Sam remember this?
and has he signed crazier things since?
Yeah, I've signed.
I remember that.
I remember signing.
I like signed a bunch of Zen cans.
And then I actually respect this a lot when I was in New York.
I signed a Copenhagen, like old school, like long cut.
Yeah.
And I was like, that's what I'm talking about.
Ignore, where you sign this for me?
Yeah, dude.
I got you.
That juiced you up a little bit?
It did.
Yeah, I was like, I'm ready for another practice.
No, but I think the weirdest thing by far at USC, someone asked me to sign their forehead, which I declined.
No.
Yeah.
Why?
Because, dude, I don't know.
You know for the people, dude?
Do you regret that decision?
I do.
I do.
That's exactly right.
Should we have you sign somebody on the bus's forehead today to make up for it?
Mitch gets a big one.
You can sign my forehead for sure.
Would you sign Mitch Crossies' forehead when the day's over?
Yeah, we'd love to.
Wow.
Dude, the growth of you is incredible to see.
It's absolutely interesting.
It was like 11 o'clock in the morning
and this guy wanted me to sign his forehead with a Sharpie.
I was like, I don't want my signature on this guy's forehead
the rest of the day.
He was back with a tattoo.
Yeah, that's this great question for Blitz to Seahawk.
Are you sure about that?
It's a little too hard hitting.
I think it's a good one.
All right.
So this is Blitz to Seahawk.
Who is your favorite mascot?
Tough one.
Come on, Blitz.
Blitz is really going to do me like that?
Definitely Blitz.
Definitely Blitz.
Definitely Blitz.
is.
Let's see here.
I'm trying to look,
because I feel like he's answered a couple of these.
What,
I swear I said,
any change your play to?
Sorry.
Yeah,
that one's too serious.
The top one?
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
I agree.
Two part three.
I like the preface.
Two-part for you, champ.
Yeah, here we go.
Joshua Barron.
Two-parter here for you, champ.
How does it feel to be the man
that calls Levi Stadium
to change its name to Lumen Field
South. Second one, will he be at the Celebrity Golf Tournament this year in Tahoe?
Well, so Josh, sorry, but they're not changing the name. It's still Levi Stadium.
I don't know where you got that fake news. And then Celebrity Golf Tournament, not going to be
there this year. Whoa. Yeah, well, I'm going to Italy for 14 days. So we're looking
forward to that. But when I get back, I don't want to go to Tahoe. I need to probably start locking
it in because I don't want to go to Italy and then all of a sudden go to Tahoe. That's a four or five
day thing. So yeah, got to train for the next couple weeks and get ready. We report on July 19th,
which is a pretty early one. Yeah, what's going on with that? We have the Wednesday game to start
the season. So we report a little earlier, but quarterbacks report earlier with Mike. So
quarterbacks report with rookies. We report, I think, two or three days after the rookies.
Got you. Yeah. Got you. So the rooks are back.
Early, dude.
Yeah, it's pretty brutal.
Mid-July's tough.
Yeah.
So.
Tough.
It's good.
Hey, pull up that one with a, Mitch with the Flurry.
Haydenberger?
Yeah.
All right.
Haydenberger is asking, what is the transition from Kubiak to Flurry like?
How is he staying hungry after winning a championship?
What does the full embrace by the 12th man, 12s mean to him?
Yeah.
No, Fleury's been great.
Obviously, it's a very similar system.
coming from Shanahan.
So it's a lot of the same stuff.
He's got a couple wrinkles, too, that they added since Clint left San Francisco,
since I left San Francisco.
So it's cool to kind of see those wrinkles in the run game,
in the past game as well.
But, yeah, Flurry's great, man.
He's like, he's very stoic, kind of like how Clint was.
You can tell, I mean, he's a tight ends coach.
So he sees the game in a great way.
Like, he sees the run game.
He sees the past game.
Like, you can kind of see it all come together that way.
So it's just really cool to be able to like work with him and and also for me to be able to like collaborate with him on some things that we did really well last year that we added to the system.
Even some stuff that Clint added when he was in New Orleans with Derek Carr and those guys.
So I think being able to just like continuously like communicate with each other on on how we can get, you know, the offense to where we want it to to be.
You know, that's a is this your sixth coordinator?
seven years?
Something like that.
Or seven and six?
Or seven coordinators in six years?
It's been a lot.
What is that light going
from coordinator to coordinator?
Like is it,
you know,
it's kind of a talking point
if somebody's had a lot of coordinators
throughout the years to where it's like,
oh, some stability and consistency
would be a lot better.
That's the obvious answer.
But is it as much as,
you know,
what people assume it to be?
Yeah,
well,
this is easier because it's the same system.
Right.
So like,
it's easier to kind of transition
from,
Clint to Flurry because it's the same like San Francisco tree, West Coast tree.
But yeah, even going like you would think it's very similar from K.O. to Clint.
But there was a little bit more learning to do.
Like I kind of had to relearn that San Francisco terminology because at the end of the day, right,
it's like just learning a different language.
Like every language has, you know, the same, you know, not the same words, but, you know,
they mean the same thing.
And you're saying the same things, but just in a different way.
Yeah, concepts are the same.
Yeah.
So it's a it's fun to be honest like I love that part of football like being able to learn a system and learn the ins and outs of different concepts and why coaches like certain concepts.
But again, going back to what we said earlier about learning the why.
Like if you're going to throw a new concept at me, like I got to understand like why you like it and you got to show me clips of like why it works and then I can get on board.
You know what I mean?
But I'm not, you know, I don't I'm not going to be like, oh, you know, I'm good running this play.
if I haven't seen it work on film or seen another quarterback consistently,
you know, have success with it.
So it's been great, though.
It's been a great learning experience with Flurry.
Like he's taught me so much about just his system and what they did, like I said,
like the last couple years in San Francisco.
Yeah.
You love nerd not over some ball.
I do.
Yeah.
Can you tell?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You love nerd now to some ball.
Was there any special like trick plays or anything in the Super Bowl that you guys didn't run
that you wish you did um they're probably they're probably a couple um but we didn't have we
didn't have too many trick plays the one that we scored on to a j barner that was like a new
wrinkle that we hadn't that we hadn't shown all year um that was kind of i don't know if y'all
have record called it zoro but like a full flow kind of outside zone yeah we ran that play a ton
uh with that same motion where it was just handing the ball off but like to really have like a hard
run so like a link set well you have two tons y and f and that yeah yeah but like it was
off of what we would call blast motion from AJ.
So, like, he was motioning fast.
And then we kind of fake that outside zone
and caught him in the perfect coverage too,
like one high match coverage.
And so the linebacker who's like,
you know how it is,
like playing those wide zone.
You know, you get caught up in the run,
the run fit.
And then all of a sudden you're like, oh shit,
AJ's gone.
Like, I better have some help over the top,
which you didn't.
That's a nice play.
It was a crazy play.
That's a nice.
It was a good one.
But, again, like, that's not.
That's not like a trick play, but
No, it's not a trick play. That's a good.
We've watched a lot of film. They know
we run Zorro. Exactly.
On Gibby too. Some white on white crime.
That's right.
I mean, he bit hard too.
It's tough not to, right?
Because we've ran that play all year and we never
ran that past concept.
So with that action.
Have you seen Drake Mason's the Super Bowl ended?
I haven't.
Have you talked to him? I haven't.
I haven't.
I haven't. I texted him.
actually um did you actually yeah i text him for something show up show him the ring i think i think
he yeah just a photo of the ring no i said i wanted just fac-time but how sick is this dude
he had reached out i think after the wedding um Drake's a great guy but yeah he had reached out after
the wedding just congratulating me and katie how weird is it during this during media days when they
they bring you up like a hey come look at these two huh these two are about to go right a couple of days
How do you guys feel about each other?
I don't know.
He's great, I guess.
I hope he sucks in a couple of days.
I'm not playing against him.
You know, he's on offense.
I'm on offense.
We don't go against each other.
But he's a great guy.
I don't know.
What was the hardest thing about Super Bowl week for you?
The media.
The media is always.
I mean, no, no offense.
No disrespect.
You guys are part of the media now.
We also did.
We asked him when we were out there.
You want to do it?
And he said no, right away.
The Monday.
What is that? Monday or Tuesday?
The big interview, Monday.
You have media days when you guys all have the little booths and you sit there?
Yeah.
That was, those are interesting, man.
I did that in San Francisco when we went to Vegas.
I didn't have like the booth like I had.
I kind of leveled up that way, right?
I had the booth.
The wild thing is just being like a guy just walking around.
And you feel like, you're in the group.
You guys are in your little sweatsuits?
Yeah, you're just like, hey, how do you feel about it?
You're like, I don't fucking know, dude.
Like what?
Why am I just with you guys out here?
Dude, the weirdest thing.
So crazy.
I got people asking me to wear that hat.
Which is at this one right here?
Guillermo from Jimmy Fallon.
Is it not Jimmy Fallon?
Jimmy Kimmel.
Thank you.
Giermo asked me to wear a hat.
He was like ham for Sam.
Big old ham, right?
Like a big old ham.
Did you wear it?
I got it on right there.
Oh, there you go.
Look at you buying in, dude.
Yeah.
I had a good mindset about it.
I had like, you know, I was ready for anything.
because I knew nothing was, you know, everything was on the table.
So I was prepared.
I was about as prepared as I could be for that.
But I just had fun with it.
Yeah, we're running around.
That's all you can do, right?
If you go in, if you're going with like a bad mindset and you're like, I hate this,
then it's just, it's never going to work out for it.
You're not going to have fun.
You're not going to be no fun in them.
Unless you know, unless you're beast mode, you can kind of do whatever the fuck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Were you the one with the birds at the Super Bowl talking about watching birds?
Was that you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I have a, I have an app, and this is even going to go more viral,
but I have an app to where, like, if a bird's chirping, it's like Shazan, but for birds.
Nice.
So, like, it'll tell you what birds chirping.
I have that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you got the app?
I have that app.
I have that, I have a bird feeder at my house that sends me notifications when they stop by.
Yeah.
That's like a screenshot of that.
Throw it in the app because you can, like, hear their turp and stuff.
Tells me what I got.
That's next level, dude.
What a freaking nerd.
What a freaking nerd.
Jared's been at my house on like a Sunday morning and just sits out in my lawn.
We have this like a little setup for birds and squirrels and he just sits there.
We did it together.
We did it together.
We did it together.
My wife's big into him.
I kind of messed with it too.
I'm honest with you.
You loved it.
I did.
Nature kind of box.
It does.
It's awesome.
But yeah, got questions about that.
Got questions about dang near everything.
Yeah.
There was this one guy that came up to me.
He was interviewing.
Drew Locke right before. And he asked Drew a question about, like, are you hoping to, he's trying
to get him, right? He's like, are you hoping to get in for the Super Bowl? And Drew's like, I think
if I were to get in, like, I would love to just hand the ball off a couple times up by 30, 40 points,
whatever. That's what he said. And the guy comes up to me and he's like, hey, just interviewed
Drew Locke, which by the way, his mustache kind of sucks. He should probably shave that. And then
he also said that he also said that he would want to get in in the game and hope that you wouldn't
play. Oh, he told you that? He's like, yeah, he wants to go into the game. What do you think about
that? And I was like, all right, man, I think Drew's mustache looks great. Drew's a great teammate. I love
that guy. And I told Drew the story because obviously I hadn't known about that. And Drew was like,
yeah, I told him I'd want to get in and hand the ball off a couple times.
Bro, that is fucking wild. And this guy just tried to get me. And I was like, dude, what is your motive?
Like, what's your motive? Yeah. Yeah. They actually have some individuals, man. Yeah.
Heartbreak Hotel.
Are you a, uh, you love golf?
Yeah.
What else you like?
You a TV show guy?
I like TV show.
I like love movies.
What's your opinion of entourage?
The show?
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
Okay.
Yeah.
Boys, round plus for that.
Who's, uh, what?
Who's your, who's your favorite character?
Are you gold?
It's not close.
Not close.
I do have a kind of,
drama?
I have a hot take and I'm not a massive fan of drama.
I'm not, I never like,
Fell massive.
It's a club.
I never had a massive,
was never like a massive fan of him.
What is this custom?
Mine's off the rack.
Dude, this show,
this has been,
this has been,
my entire offseason of football
has been just trying to get him
to watch Entourage.
You've never seen it.
I'm going to watch it
for the love of God.
I asked him about TV shows.
He could have just said Entourage.
I'm just trying to get to know my guy's,
Sammy D.
Okay, what's your favorite TV show?
Don't.
Probably Thrones.
Game of Thrones.
Game of Thrones.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just finished that show a couple weeks ago.
You just finished Game Thrones.
Just finished it first time.
How great.
It's phenomenal.
It's as advertised.
Yeah.
It takes a little bit to get through the first couple episodes, first season as well.
Yeah, that's how it was for me.
I tried to watch it two or three times.
And then finally, right after the Super Bowl, you had your big day.
I had my big day.
I started Game of Thrones.
My wife, my wife, like, spotted me through the first three.
And she's like, okay, so what's happening here?
My dumb brains is barely computing all these storylines.
Yeah.
Which is usually why I back away.
But once I bought in, dude,
It's an all time show.
It is.
I'm one of the few people that sit on season eight and go.
That's a good season.
Yeah.
Also, this is your first time kind of saying season eight's a good season.
I thought we've broken it down a few times.
I know we broke down like certain episodes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They definitely, you can tell they rushed.
Yeah, things are rushed.
Yeah, things are, things are an abomination of a season.
There are things that could have been done better.
Compared to the others for sure.
Yeah.
Well, are you, are you a House of Dragon guy?
I like House of Dragon.
Are you Knights of Seven Kingdoms guy?
No.
I haven't gotten it, bro.
That's better than House of Dragon, would you say?
They're different.
They're different.
But you'll, once you watch it, you'll get why.
It's got some, it's got some, uh, some humor in it.
Like it's, it's just a different, it's a different world.
But it's awesome.
You'll love it.
Yeah.
You like House of Dragon?
I do.
I do.
House of Dragon's good.
I think, I think people are kind of over react later.
They're like, oh, the first couple seasons don't live up to the hype that Game
of Thrones has.
Like people forget that Game of Thrones like first couple seasons was
It's because of the taste in people's mouths was season eight.
Correct.
They put so much expectation.
They put so much expectation.
Hold on.
What's your take on season eight?
I thought it was rushed.
I'm not going to sit here and say that it was bad.
You know, because I love the show so much.
Like I just can't.
I can't get myself to say it was bad.
Yeah.
But yeah, I thought it was rushed.
I just thought that the ending, you know, Aria and all that.
It was so sick, though.
I still think that was epic.
You liked that Aria killed the night kick.
I didn't
All right
I did too
I thought that was perfect
I thought that was perfect
he was so mad at it
because he
I wasn't mad
We had a long conversation
after saying
I wasn't mad at the
the moment that Ari
Yes and no
You told me you weren't mad about
ARIA multiple times
I'm like I think he might be actually
mad about the ARIA thing
Who did you want
To
I was telling Taylor
That when you had that
that war going on,
that all of this stuff's going on.
It's dark.
You can't see shit.
And you have,
for seven seasons,
it's been this world
of the main characters.
I mean,
obviously,
main characters have shifted.
But you've just learned about
the white walkers
and the night king.
And John Snow and the white,
like all of it coming to a head,
right?
Yes.
And those moments of Aria
making the kill the way that
she comes out of nowhere
and staves.
and when John Snow's on the ground with a dragon,
it just didn't feel right.
And the fact that the Night King and John Snow
never had like a true moment.
Yeah.
And they kind of just skim through it.
It was just a bummer to me.
Do you know, so you sound like,
you know what you're talking about.
Have you, like, read the books or do you know how the book?
I have not read the books.
Do you know, like, the books ending?
Because I don't.
I do not.
Okay.
They didn't finish the books.
Yeah, they didn't finish them.
And like that's why it was Hollywood.
So it's kind of up to interpretation.
Yeah, season five is when the books end or season six.
Did you watch?
Thrones kind of in succession?
Yeah, I did.
Like you did,
did you have the two and a half year wait
between season seven and season eight?
I was, I binged it.
See, that's what I think it's where
I was the same way.
So it feels like because the people
had to wait two and a half years,
I can understand why they got to
the massive letdown disappointment
because you get to play the game
at the lunch table for years
of being like, this could happen.
What about this?
This storyline.
Oh, we forgot about this person.
What if they come in?
For us, we just sit there
and we're like,
Season 8 start, man.
Let's see how it goes.
Exactly.
Yeah.
He was going to get after it.
Yeah.
And the way Jamie Lanister went out with Searcy and Tyrion's a little punk-ass.
I'd be like, brand the broken out of all stories.
And it's like, we're just going to send John Snow off.
Like there's just no, I had the last couple of episodes were terrible.
Yeah.
I didn't understand the John Snow hype until John Snow was killed and came back.
That John Snow, post-death John Snow.
That's my guy.
What do you think about him in DeNiris?
Like killing, killing her off.
What did you think about that?
Oh.
No, no, no.
They were pointing out a question that's on the thing.
But I want to hear the answer.
Did you think that was like a cool part of it?
Or did you think someone else could have killed her?
I wouldn't have cared if they didn't do away with John Snow,
the way that they did away with them,
how they kind of exiled them from everything.
Can't have, do all this, can't do, can't have kids.
everybody that is in that fucking circle,
it was because of John Snow.
Tyrion, he goes down when Tyrion's in prison.
And John Snow gets him out of fucking prison.
Then for Tyrion to go up there and talk about Brandon Broken,
and they all kind of agree that John Snow's got to go away,
that's what pissed me off.
Isn't that kind of like the arc of a lot of great superheroes though, right?
Like they kind of get forgotten about a little bit
or they get written off as like a bad guy.
You know what I mean?
They can, but they did it terribly.
Yeah.
I'm not going to argue with you on that one.
He's a very passionate man about his Game of Thrones.
Yeah.
He is.
Here's what I'll argue is the unsolidist is basically saying we're going to kill John Snow.
There's no way he's going to be the king.
No one we will not support.
We'll fight for that.
We'll fight against that.
The brand of the broken thing, it's like where else is brand's storyline going to go?
He is the best possible leader for how much of a tyrant the last few kings were.
He's a good calm demeanored, keep the peace, has a relationship with the North.
while also being able to see and do whatever he liked.
So I don't mind that.
I didn't love that.
Brand ended up being the king just because I didn't care for brand.
But I understand from a,
if we truly want peace,
this is the guy we should go with.
Yeah, sure.
If I dive down to just trying to find understanding, yeah.
Like, I can understand it.
I just think it was poorly done.
It was poorly written.
Okay.
All right.
Two and a half fucking year.
Why not finish the books too?
You know what I mean?
Why are we just going to like?
that's a great story, but like, I'm not going to finish that.
I think he is finishing the books.
He's working on it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, he better get, you better get on it.
Yeah, he better get going.
And hey, the long night with that big fight between the zombies, I thought it was incredible.
Everyone was like, it's too dark, but I know they were recolored it.
Someone said that when we were breaking down last time.
But I thought it was awesome.
It was dark.
It was dark.
I remember that.
But it also, to me, was like, a great depiction of like, you have zombies.
It's, there's true chaos.
taking it took time to show like john snow who's like protected his boy his boy sam and all these
other people he's looking left and right and seeing all these people essentially being finished and
there's no hope for them his only hope is to go and find this knight king to go and try to take it out
and end everything i would have like to the white walkers to have one to where they're in uh like a next
episode or two because again they were just done it was over all that fucking you were like in north
to fall not like the characters that like stayed alive it's
almost like they had to like retreat or get back to Kingsland or whatever it is obviously I
retreating against that I know but again the way that the white walkers were just done it's just how
I felt about it I don't know if I don't know if I stand with the majority your truth is good enough for me
I watched it a long time ago so I don't even know if I can it's so fresh in my mind really it was
it was one of those things so I started watching probably in season four so then I was in I was in
order with it I was watching like everybody else was yeah so then when season send it season seven ended
it was two and a half years of nothing
but the greatest life of theories
and wondering what's going to happen
of all time.
I'm talking like the world bought in.
And so when it was finally there,
how many episodes, six?
Six episodes.
Six episodes.
It's all like an hour and a half.
Yeah, then you learn that it's an hour and a half.
Oh, it's going to be awesome.
Then when some of these moments are happening
and it's a little slow,
you're just like, when are all these things
that we've talked about for years?
Do you think it could have lived up to the hype
or do you think it was inevitable?
Probably not and I hated admitting that
because James Dobson and a strength coach of ours
when we were at Bandy, he would just,
he would like laugh at us and be like,
it's not going to end the way you wanted to
and you back, shut the fuck up Dobson.
Like yes, this is the greatest show of all time.
And so then the, yeah, he was right.
The way it was rushed, like all of it, man, all of it.
It's, it was hard.
Yeah, it bothers you.
Yeah, yeah.
Scars.
Yeah.
Deep scars.
What's your favorite show of all time?
I would say, I would say, so favorite show ever is Game of Thrones and then despite the ending.
And then favorite season of all time is season one of two detective.
Good season.
Okay.
Favorite season.
I don't think I've seen it all.
Of any TV show.
Yeah.
All right.
You got it.
That's your next one.
It's a quick one too.
You'll get through that in a week.
Because they kind of switch the characters.
He's on, I swear to God, he's got like time control because he has, he knows every show.
He watches every single show.
Yeah.
It's so impressive to me.
like some TV shows.
He's bringing down one to me yesterday
and he's like, I think you love this.
And he's like,
I'm like, how is this man?
Kate Feier?
Because I just watched him
have two other show conversations
earlier in the day.
Kate Fears good.
I saw a commercial and I think I would love that show.
Are you an Apple Plus TV guy?
Apple TV?
Sam's got it all.
Sam's got all of the.
Yeah, I got all the subscriptions.
He doesn't give a shit about it.
Apple T's money with the contract.
Yeah.
Apple TV.
He's not,
Paramount's a little lunches there.
No,
Dung the Ranch on Paramount Plus.
No, that never changed.
You know that too.
That never changes.
Listen.
You're always looking at the subscriptions like, do I really use that that much?
I hate, dude.
I hate when I get an update and it's like we're changing our subscription.
It's like Apple's going from like $12.99 a month to $14.
And I have a moment of like $2, $3.
I'm like, what the fuck is this?
Like why?
When is enough enough?
Because it adds up.
Yeah, because streaming services really, they've won the game.
Stack that up over here.
They took out, they took out cable.
They made us all fall in love with it.
And now they're using us.
Yeah, but you're, I mean, you can afford that.
Yeah, but Sam's saying it doesn't change, bro.
Like, you see someone take three more dollars and you're like, why the fuck are you doing this to me?
Like, he's, we're going to afford it, but you're still going to have a moment of, you're still going to vision, correct?
Of frustration.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can afford that?
That's really balling different lately, dude.
He's moving a little different.
Wait, so what's your?
We'll be vacationing in Italy.
Oh, good.
Did I say that on here?
Yeah, you're going to Italy.
I shouldn't said that.
If you could go vacation anywhere, dream vacation, what do you want to do?
I mean, right now it's Italy.
I mean, I've always dreamed about going to Italy or Greece.
I feel like Greece would be fun.
I like Greece folks.
I feel like this hits.
So we're doing, I'm not going to tell everyone where we're going, but we're not going to the Amalfi Coast.
And like that's somewhere where I've always wanted to go.
But I heard you got to spend like a week there.
And so I want to hit like all, you know, some different cities.
So we'll go back to Italy and hit Amalfi and do that because that's I think that's kind of as a kid I would see that picture and be like I want to go there when I'm growing up.
So that would be sick.
But not yet.
That's badass.
Not yet.
That's where Dana goes every year for like two weeks on his yacht and just like cruises around that area.
You've been with him?
No, but he sent me photos and that was good enough for me.
That's cool.
Well, maybe a face time.
This is pretty sick on.
I'm like, yeah, it's fucking dope.
That's sick.
It's always the Amalfi Coast.
Are you watching that show with John Ham?
What's that show?
Yeah, your friends and neighbors?
Yes.
Good show.
Good show.
Okay.
We're on fucking everything, dude.
You know what the problem is called?
What?
Widows Bay.
Oh, I've heard of this.
We've told him too much about an entourage where he's like now fighting it a little bit.
The only reason I fight it now is because it's almost like that you guys are having anger towards me.
Well, no, your next show, just watch Entourage.
Nope.
That doesn't work like that.
Jeremy Pivot was supposed to come on the show.
He canceled.
He canceled.
He canceled.
He canceled.
He canceled on us.
Day before.
Day before.
Oh, it's not why, but it helps fuels me.
No, the actual problem is TV's good right now, man.
Like a new show comes out, and if it catches my interest, like I just.
Entourage is like one of the best shows of all time.
Right, but you're going to, I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to be in it for not a, not a, like a long time, but there's several seasons.
Like, I like how TV is now coming out with limited series.
Yeah.
So I just.
It's just bang, bang.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And bro, when you watch entourage when you're younger and you're not in the NFL yet,
you just think this is what the NFL is going to be like, dude.
I'm going to be anything like that.
And it's not.
It's not at all.
But you think for a moment, how sick would it be?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's another good question.
Like, has Will kind of grown out of really enjoying entourage the way that we did?
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I've actually brought that up because, yeah, there's a way different watching entourage
married with kids as opposed to watching entourage single.
In college.
in college because when you're single in college like that's peak when you should watch entourage or maybe not peak when you should watch entourage nonetheless you get the most emotions that will would love to entourage that will be sitting here right now man like yeah he'd be killing me about johnny drama right now you didn't really you weren't a huge fan that's fucking crazy oh dude yeah that's that is correct it's a bad take wait why so why don't you i don't know i just never i don't know i just wasn't a huge fan of him i like i like him dude
You get him, as you know.
They're killing them.
Look at his eyes.
What did you do?
What did you do to Mitch over there?
He just having some fun, man.
He's just looking for some camarader.
Mitch is, well, Mitch did have a bad episode a couple days ago.
Did he?
Something that happened.
Oh.
We were shooting something.
Will kind of.
No, it wasn't Will.
It was actually me, but Will does, or Mitch is like the whole grudgyz.
And we had a grudgy goober.
He's a grudgy goober.
And we were shooting this thing.
I don't know if we can even say what it was yet.
But we're towards the end of the day.
And they're like, hey, we're going to pass
the football so everybody who's here can sign the football and Mitch signed his football number
and I kind of razzed him about it and he's like you sign your number I was like I played in the
NFL for a very long time it and yeah eventually I'll walk away from it and there was it got it got
tight for a moment kind of like how it feels right now telling the end of the story you're the only one
tight right oh yeah you're right my fault you so you didn't like that he put his number no I was just
giving him I was giving Mitch a hard time he busting his balls I was busting his balls what is your
number 14 that's right hey type shit you could write his number is quarterback no I was a
wide receiver he's a quarterback now gotcha what a stud I know so squawk no swag no swag I'll take that
dude have you have swag either I was I didn't say I had swag yeah yeah thanks man you look good
Okay, a little bit of swag.
A little bit of swag.
Do you ever think to yourself about maybe put a little extra juice in your uniform get up in Sundays?
No.
I did in high school.
Now they're going to look up a picture.
I have no swag in high school.
I did, I did like a, I had, I did an arm sleeve one time in high school.
So you were back or setting the edge back then, yeah?
Dude, that's a horrible picture.
That's fire.
You look good.
What do you mean?
Yeah, we know.
We put up Will's college picture, so I'm good.
Yeah.
That's solid.
I did play backer, played a little bit of backer.
And you were good at basketball as well?
I played basketball.
I wouldn't say I was like great, but I was good.
One of your coaches said that you could have been like D1.
That seems like you're pretty good at basketball.
Yeah, D1's put, yeah, maybe like ride the bench D1, but I could have been a practice squad.
And I don't know.
What kind of stat line we're talking about in high school?
High school?
I don't know.
I think it was like 15 a game.
No.
Average in 15 points a game?
That's not.
That's okay, right?
Eight.
You're scoring like 60 points a game roughly.
Yeah, eight minute quarters.
Dude, give me some.
I was in a basketball player.
This is also, you know, I had a down year one year.
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Yeah, senior year, average 15, eight and a half. Yeah. A lot of shots though, too. Those shots were
going up. Yeah. Do you ever think about that you're the only USC quarter of?
to ever win a Super Bowl?
I thought that was pretty crazy.
Yeah, you saw that and you're like,
that's fucking dope.
Yeah, you guys know me so well.
And not only that, Taylor,
but being in a draft class too with Baker Mayfield,
Josh out on Lamar Jackson.
Yeah.
Those are all great guys.
Who's got the last laugh now, right?
Those are all great guys.
I mean, I was the third pick.
You're great guys, but you got one.
How about Rosen?
When's the last time you've seen him?
I haven't seen Josh.
In a long time.
Was he he was talking a lot of trash in the beginning would you say anything to him now?
Would you would you would you high road with him?
Yeah Josh is great.
Out of this list right here who would you want to fight?
Who would I want to fight?
Who would you win against in a fight?
I would want to fight Baker.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Well only I won't say the other teams I want to talk to a free agency but that he'll
answer that.
I would say I would say Josh but I know I would.
I know I would lose probably.
So you're beating Baker's ass.
No, I'm not saying I would beat him.
I think it'd be a good fight.
Okay.
Because Baker's definitely got a little bit of a, you know,
you see him get riled up.
He's got some shit to him.
He's got some shit to him.
But I think it'd be a better fight than me and Josh.
Josh has got it.
Josh has got some strength that, you know.
He's a big boy.
Yeah, it's a big boy.
That's a big boy.
A little extra.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Balls.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And he's a dad now.
too so you got that's true
that's true
bake
fuck I didn't think about that
I might be just
you know
I might just pass on all that
on all that sauce
not don't need to do that no no no
we don't need to do that
did you watch his game
against the Broncos
um I didn't
it was like right before our game
dude
half time he's scooting out there
this he's holding the ball
like this fumbles
then they kick three points
to get it in
I'm thinking of myself Josh
what are we doing here
friend of the show come on
friend of the show
no I love Josh
yeah but you can also give a hard time
Groomsman too, I think, right, Sam?
Is he one of your groomsman?
Oh.
Oh, Josh was one of your groomsmen?
We didn't do, me and him both didn't do groomsmen, but we would have been in each other's.
And when did you, when did you get married?
I got married April 3rd.
This year?
This year.
Hey.
Two rings.
Two rings, one year.
Two rings.
Not only that, he said April 3rd, anniversary of Buston with the boys and also when Rue was born.
Let's go.
Yeah.
Because when you came on, that was the day Rue was born.
All the way around.
Shout out Will's kid.
Shout out Will's kid.
April 3rd is just a bit you coming on bussing with the boys.
That was all that day.
That's right.
Did you have a big wedding?
27.
So a lot of people.
A lot of people.
Did you ever have a difficult, like, filling the list?
If I would have gone another step and tried to, like, invite a couple more people,
then it would have been tough because it would have been like,
oh, now I got to invite this whole group.
Right.
You know what I mean?
What groups would you think you had a hard time with?
Dude.
You're going to make me talk about my friends?
Just get two names.
Maybe friends that are right in front of you.
It was really tough.
I was thinking about not inviting Josh, actually.
But just because, you know, no, I'm just kidding.
Didn't even think about that.
Did it, did in the list?
No, it was a great list.
I want you to answer this freely.
Like, feel free.
Don't think you're going to hurt anybody's feelings.
I'm not on a podcast or anything.
No one listens to this show.
No one listens.
When you and your wife are going over the list,
Did Willer Eye's name ever come up?
Yeah.
Actually did.
No.
You're lying.
Don't bullshit me.
Don't bullshit.
Yeah, yeah.
We don't even have each other's numbers, but I'll give a round of applause to that.
I'll give a round of applause to that.
No, don't say that.
Don't say that.
Maybe as they do, like, a 10-year anniversary, like, renew your vows.
Wait, are you guys still doing the beer Olympics, or is that?
We're looking into it.
We do have to do one more, but you're on the list.
I was going to say, like, we're throwing a,
on invite. Let me talk about that for a second.
Do you want to, do you know, no, I don't want an invite. You do though. You do.
We talked about that. You see that and you're like, it's like how you guys didn't want a
wedding invite. I don't want an invite. Well, I would love to, I would have sent a nice gift.
Who would your partner be? Maybe like a, maybe like a six pack of beer. Send a six pack of beer
my way. Like so I would say, hey, you were thought about, but we didn't invite you. Here you
go. Some bust some beer. Some free beer. Yeah. Little Josh Allen, Sam Darnold
team and beer. Who would your partner be? Yeah, Josh would be a good one.
How do you think you would fare in this?
Have you seen the whole?
I have, to be honest, I'm not in the shape I was in when I was in college.
So I think it'd be tough.
You don't have to be just watch me in the vlog.
Like you don't have to be in the new.
No, I know.
You're nice of this.
I'm going against you.
I'm going against the field, you know?
I'm not like, I'm not one of those guys that's like I just don't want to get last, you know?
You want to win?
I feel like Josh would be solid.
And I, and I've seen George too like George's, George is solid, right?
George is good.
George is really good at the games.
I think me and Josh should be pretty good
but I also don't think
I would want to do that right before training camp
you know
it's almost like
it's just one day
yeah yeah
it's just one day but you feel it
you do
for weeks
the residuals
seriously but I mean you're still
you're 29
correct yeah
how's how's Bert by the way
as like a he's more of like
I can keep going
yeah
he's not a gamer
he can't do the games
yeah
this boy
I'm fine
I'm fine
Dude you should have seen
The last one we did bro
It was so funny
He was out of his fucking mind
Just like choking people out in the pool
And stuff like that
Gilles was getting choked out in the pool
That was that was me
Yeah that's right
That was me
But Gillis deserved it dude
There just for a brief second
You saw Will's mortal enemy
Go back a little bit
Oh Uncle Ezzar
Neil
Neil
That one right there
So that's Uncle
I hope we can show it.
Guy in the black jersey right there.
James Neal. James is my neighbor.
So like across like you see in the background.
Yep.
He was right there.
He would just show up to my house randomly.
He's moved since then.
But that guy was public enemy number one to Wilcompton.
Why is that?
He cheated?
Well, no, he deserved a lot.
James deserved a lot.
That happened to him.
We were playing, what's that game called?
Beer ball.
Beer ball.
Which one is that?
It's when you, there's cans on all four corners
and you throw a ball and hits the
can and then you have to go retrieve it and put it back and the other team drinks first people to drink
their beer wins oh and you got to like do this at the end right yeah yeah yeah yeah do you do like
that so this part right here will is tight so will goes put his hands on james he goes and blocks taylor
in the corner so taylor can't get the ball back to the table look at that boom yeah that's that's
crazy and that's bushelie and that's george and defores won this year i know i saw that that's i keep up i
keep up. Yeah. I don't watch the whole YouTube stuff, but you don't have to. Sorry, sorry.
You're subscribed though, just like everybody else watching right now. You guys all the matters.
Yeah. It helps the numbers. Yeah. That means a lot. Yeah. I mean, I don't know about you guys.
I feel like this has been a phenomenal podcast. Oh, it's been incredible. We got the,
we got it asking the Bud Lake question. We iron some stuff out for sure. We iron some stuff out.
Bud light question. Got some stuff done. Sam, you know anybody would do anything for an ice
cold Bud Light. That's correct. What's something that Sam Donald would do anything for and he can't
say family. I mean, Bud lights,
Bud lights a damn good one. I would truly,
I would truly do anything for my friends that I went to high school with.
I'm still like boys with all my high school buddies and I would do anything in the world for
those guys. Really? Yeah. That's a good one. That's a good, that's a good answer.
That's a strong answer. Not to get emotional. I could feel. Yeah. I could feel the passion
and authenticity behind that.
Would you, I mean, how do you treat the boys?
Do you treat them every year like JJ Watt does with his boys from high school?
What does JJ do?
They could take a private jet, they go play some golf.
We may have, we may have taken a jet.
I think 16, 17 years in a row now.
Yeah, we did a golf trip out in Georgia.
And you did Florida as well.
You take them on the PJ?
Yeah.
Nice.
That is sick, dude.
That's awesome.
It's big boys.
I'm not going to lie, it might have been a one-year thing because, you know,
bachelor trip.
You got to go all that.
out but oh so so it's not like a it's not an annual thing no we might have to make it that but
well now they'll get to hear this clip and be like hey yes yeah well yeah we cut it before I said that
yeah yeah well boys listen it's been it's been fun I've had a great time on this episode
thank you for coming on some give a round of applause
super bowl champion um so if I can make a request and you shoot me down right now as we
tail off this podcast is ending you guys go to the Super Bowl again this year shoot them down
shooting down already.
Can we get on,
can you come on the bob
before the,
before the game?
Sometime that week.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's get them on.
Uh,
LA this year.
We'll come to you.
We'll come to you.
We'll come to you.
That's just this year, right?
Not another year.
That's like a one year deal.
That's a forever contract.
No, that's a one year deal.
It's a one year deal.
One year deal,
but we'll have them on again next year.
We'll have to do,
we'll have to do annual trips to your boys.
You do annual podcasts with us.
It's great time.
All right.
I appreciate you guys.
Thanks for having me on.
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