Bussin' With The Boys - Shawn Booth

Episode Date: July 30, 2019

Thank you: www.regalrg.com On this week's episode, Season 11 winner of the Bachelorette, Shawn Booth, joins the boys on the bus to discuss some of the biggest secrets of the Bachelorette and the success of his Booth Camp gym in Nashville. We also learn that the Boys did not sign the raid Area 51 Petition, but believe that aliens do exists. Shawn Booth's Booth Camp: www.boothcampgym.com Check out our sponsor:Regal Realty Group - Hunter BrileyPersonal 615-630-9735615-483-0856www.regalrg.com  Rate us 5 stars because you're for the boys. Website: bussinwtb.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/  Merch: https://hangtn.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boysFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I would, I now have a different opinion now sitting down with Sean Booth and talking about the behind-the-scenes thing, the behind-the-scenes thing, things that go on in this house. And the way this reality TV show kind of makes some of their content, this was a very cool interview. He was the winner of Bachelorette season 11, and his fiancee was, what was her name, Caitlin? It was the season with Caitlin. They actually went through a breakup last November. We talk a little bit about that. We talk about his booth camp gym that is local here in Nashville as well.

Taylor and I, we went over and did a workout. A big mistake on our part. He buried us to the ground, thought it would be light work. It is not light work. Real cool spot, though. Go check it out. Booth Camp Gym here in Nashville. They do a lot of specific workouts.

They kind of go throughout the whole week. Hit different body parts and they grind. Oh, here we go. Caleb Bristow was the season 11 on Bachelorette. We dive in about the behind-the-scenes stuff with this. them what it's like to be in a house with a bunch of dudes and the testosterone that goes on and trying to win over a chick man i had a lot of questions about that because that's a lot of the qualms i have i'm like yeah what the fuck is it like being in there like what makes you want

to go on the show what's it like when you're on there we dive into a lot of that stuff we also talk a lot of like uh you know some nutrition um some stuff that he does because he's very into fitness a lot of cool stuff man you guys are going to want to hear it i feel you guys are going to i have a feeling you guys are going to have a lot of fun with this but no more more talking, no more ramble. We're going to go get into the episode. Follow us, Bustin WTB, subscribe, rate five stars. So what's up, dude? Do you work out this morning yet? I did. 530. Even earlier in us, man. You know a guy named Austin Rogers? Austin Rogers. He's just another guy in Nashville. He's building my house. Is he?

But he's up every day at like 4.20 every morning. Yeah, I never used to do that. But once I started doing it, it's like a game changer. He feels so good. How's your, like, at 3 o'clock? How do you feel? When you first start, it sucks. You want to take a nap. But after that, it's like, dude, you're working out. As soon as you're done, the sun's coming up. Dude, that is the best feeling, too. That is the best feeling.

When we do finally get done with the work out, you're driving home and you got the music up. You're probably still working. You're hitting there. It's like, just like, my wife's like starting her day. And I'm like, dude, I've been up for five hours, dude. I love how he said. I love how he said he worked out at 530. And you're like, dude, do you know Austin Rogers?

Like, there's two people. Yeah, well, he's the only the person I know that gets up that game early. Yeah, he's a psycho. I always do that too. Like, I'm going to say some random-ass person. Yeah. But someday it's going to hit and it'll be perfect. What's his name who comes to the gym?

Derek Morgan. Yeah. Yeah. He comes everywhere. He's retired two days ago. Yeah. Oh, he retired? Retired from the NFL.

Yeah. He's been in the gym. He's a 530 guy. Cryotherapy is cool. It's super cold, whatever. But the float tanks, that's like. Bad ass. It's such a sensory overload because you're sitting there.

It's a first time in your life since literally being like a baby inside of your mom's tummy. Like, there's no pressure on. on your spine so your body like your equilibrium's thrown off you don't really like it's hard for you to even relax it's just got a bunch of salt in there right yeah it all is just uh as salt it's crazy because like the only 500 pounds of absent salt the only other person i talked about that was gronk and it's like you two big motherfuckers you're floating in the tub you're like you both love it you tip the side you kind of like push it off with your finger and then like five minutes like tip the other side really it's and how long do you sit in there for an hour you should do an hour

some people do like 30 or 45 minutes but i think an hour like you're just in there with you and your own thoughts like you're trying to like wind down and you start to learn how to, it's a sorrowful meditation. Yeah. I was going to say because to sit there for an hour and you're saying you don't like sitting around still, right? So it's, yeah, I don't. Taylor probably just sits in there and pops jokes to himself the whole time.

I do talk to myself sometimes. I think it's, I think it's important to do things that make you uncomfortable. Yeah. I think it's like for me, the most uncomfortable thing is to be quiet sometimes. Because I love get my jaw sits in. I love talking to people.

Yeah. And so that is definitely, I get something out of this, but sometimes I do need to take like 10, 15 minutes. So, like, just sit by myself. Right. Whether it's meditation or whatever, like, you just got to, you know, be alone with yourself. That, like, causes sometimes the most discomfort.

Yeah. I try, like, every morning when I wake up, like, I'll put my phone out in the kitchen. So I'm, like, trying to stay away from that phone for, like, the first, like, 30 minutes I wake up and try, like, just meditating a little bit. I got to do that, man. Because as soon as my phone goes off, I'll, like, roll over. Yeah. I'll hit snooze and all just start scrolling through Instagram. Because you're on your phone all day long.

It's like, as soon as you get out of bed, you're like, all right, let's see here. It's like, you're expecting a text. Like, I look at 10, like, who the fuck's in a text? Yeah, exactly. Or I'm going to look up something and then you open your phone and just go down the rabbit hole. Yeah. Instagram or Twitter. Yeah.

Then you close your phone and then you're like, oh, shit, what was I even going to do? Yeah. Then you're on Pornhub and then it's like, all fucked up. Everything goes downhill, dude. Everything goes downhill when it starts a porn hub. So, Booth Camp. Boothcan. When did that start?

Are we doing the podcast right now? Yeah, we're in the podcast. Yeah, are we in the podcast right now? Yeah, okay. Oh, shit. We're going. All right. Yeah, we've been rolling.

All right. Explain Booth Camp. When did that start? Booth Camp started last year, last July, so we just came up on our first year. It's a gym downtown. I also have an app, Booth Camp app, for at-home workouts. But the gym here in Nashville is like a team group fitness style. Gym, we do all types of work in there. We've had a different workout every single day that we've been open.

We do seven classes a day. We've got a handful of coaches. But it's like, you got everything from medicine balls to punching bags to echo bikes, kettlebells, dumbbells. We got a turf in there to do agility stuff. So we're just doing all different types of workouts every day. So you kind of mix everything. Like it's not like a crossfit.

It's not. No, I mean, it's just kind of a lot of expertise that you bring in and you guys come up with a lot of different workouts. Right, exactly. I think the main difference with us in CrossFit, we don't have a lot of barbells. We're not doing a lot of overhead Olympic lifts.

Okay. But other than that, I mean, we're doing, I mean, we got pull-up bars. And we do have a barbell or two to do like some landmine moves. but we also utilize a space outside. So we got a hill right next to us, which is cool, which will make you guys run up today, probably with a med ball or a sandbag.

So we're just tossing weights around there. It's a lot of circuit training, a lot of stations. So typically there'll be five stations set up, and it'll be five or six minutes at one station with four or five moves. We're moving fast, kind of hit training. Then we're going to the next station. But like every day is different. So Mondays are leg days, Mondays and Wednesdays,

Tuesdays and Thursdays are upper body, mixing in some core. And then Friday, Saturday, Sunday. we've got full body. I got you guys do like provide nutrition and stuff like that? Preach things or stand by stuff. I mean, if we have clients that come up to us and ask us questions, we'll help them out, putting some meal plans together.

But it's not like an actual service that we provide. Do you do anything specific? I do meal planning. Yeah. Yeah. For yourself? For myself and a lot of my clients. I got you.

Yeah. Do you experiment with like, I don't know, all the trendy stuff that goes on fasting, intermittent, I haven't had plant base for two years now. Oh, really? So I haven't had meat. The only animal product that I eat is, eggs. Really?

Yeah. Do you eat from Derek Morgan's deal? Actually, I spoke with Charity once to do some meals. I got to get back with her about that. But no, I haven't done any of the stuff that he's on. But it's just something I started two years ago. There was a lot of buzz around it. And I like kind of challenging myself.

And as a trainer, I want to be knowledgeable in that kind of stuff. Because I was getting a ton of questions about that. So I was like, all right, let's try this out. And then when I want to do something, I'm just like, all right, I'm going to do it. And then I just stopped eating meat. And so it's been two years now. A lot of your buddies did that, right? Wasn't there like 12 Titans last year?

Derell Casey's, but wasn't it? Derek Morgan. I think Wood did it for a little bit. Like a lot of those guys. Rack did it for a little bit. But Rack was on and off, man. I catch Rack eating like a cheeseburger sometimes. You know, rack.

Yeah. Like those things, it's crazy to me. It's crazy to me like, did you do any blood tests or anything like that to see like how a receptive you would be to plant plant based stuff? So I never like everybody's like, was it a crazy difference? Did you feel all this energy? And honestly, I was like, no, because I was also,

I was very conscious of what I was eating before that. So I've always been super health conscious into working out. So it wasn't like I had this crazy boost of energy where a lot of people do that. But I think a lot of people switch to it. They're eating like junk to begin with. So even if they switch to a healthier meat-based diet, they'd feel that energy, right? Yeah, people like when they're transitioning and you're like fat, you're out of shape, you don't feel good. And then you go and do something as basic as eating more vegetables.

There's going to be more of a jump. Exactly. And a guy like yourself who's, I mean, you've been doing health and fitness for so long. Yeah. And so, I mean, I get mixed up all the time. I worry about doing plant-based stuff just from like, I got to be a certain way. I have to be above 300 pounds. I have to, you know, that's a hard, hard thing to do.

Watching Jarrell's performance, like he lost about 20, 25 pounds going to doing that plant-based stuff. But his performance went so much up. But we play, we're a little bit different as far as like he's more attacking and I'm defending. Right. It's the most basic terms of football. I just think it's so hard for me to under, like, even take the comments. concept of like not eating meat. Yeah.

It's all trial and error too because for me it was like day seven and the same thing, my buddy said the same thing. He went plant-based and he gave up meat. Like it was like going through withdrawals. Like completely sick. Like the worst headache ever fatigue. Like day seven, day eight. And once you get over that hump,

you're good. But it's all about trial and error and trying to figure out, you know, your calories, your macros. But I mean, I can't imagine playing in the NFL and trying to keep your weights. I mean, it's tough. He could. could have been eating bad too like he was saying yeah you can go from eating a non not very

structured yeah just yeah just because you're vegan doesn't mean your health right exactly you can have chips or candy bars right yeah yeah yeah he was like oh yeah I'm vegan yeah well uh this one pod um his name's dr eric serrano and he was getting interviewed and they were at kind of questioning him on dieting and what's the best diet out there because everybody's trying to figure out what the best diet is right and he his response was the best diet you can be on is the one that you're not on because you always want to change stuff up. Right. So if you're a vegan, like, you switch it up after four weeks or a month.

Or if you're all meat-based or if you're all keto or if you're all this, like, they all work. Yeah. But his thought or his response was the best one you can be on is the one that you're not on. Yeah. And then there's so many fad diets. And I think like the reason there are fad diets is because a lot of them don't work long term. Right. So there's always something new.

Everybody's trying to come up with the next big thing. You're talking about fat diets like keto? Yeah. keto or I mean all the other the South Beach diets, old 30 paleo, all that stuff. I think the one diet, quote unquote, that's worked over generations in our lifetime has just been a balanced diet of your meats, your vegetables, your fruits, portion size, right?

That's the one thing that's stayed constant, the one thing that continues to work for people. So the other stuff is like that's super trendy and, I don't. don't know. They just don't work long term. Right. I think people just want something to like get behind. Yeah. And that's cool too. Right. Yeah. Like, yeah, I just, I'll try and decide for that stuff. Yeah. I'll like, oh, is this a fat thing? I'm like, I don't care of stuff. It seems like it's fatty to you or not. Right. It's just like, just figure out what you can have in the morning, what you can have at lunch. Like if you could just go anywhere and navigate, you know, I'm going to choose this option, that option. Because he came from like a bodybuilding mentality back in his day. And he kind of goes on and off with dieting now, now that he's older. Yeah. And so I try to, I'm always on him about being healthier because, you know, he's an older, old dad drinks, beers, slaced pizza, stuff like that. Yeah. And so he's got to be so structured all the time to where, you know, he won't want to go do stuff or vacation or do things because if he's in his little diet phase. Yeah.

He'll want to be in that diet phase. It's like, you'll just learn about everything so that you can go anywhere and kind of navigate. Like we're at Fido's, look at the menu, figure out, yo, what do we want to eat? How are we going to eat? Exactly. And just live an awesome life. Yeah. And it comes down to what works for you.

you, right? Because I was trying so hard to be plant-based and then I wanted to have eggs. And I was like, well, shit, I'm plant-based. I can't have eggs. But then I added eggs and it made a huge difference for me. So I'm like, all right, that works for me. Might not work for somebody else, but it's all trial and error. Well, I mean, what do you boys eat? Like, how much do you eat every day? I try. So I have, I have three shakes a day that I do. All those have, you know, I put a lot of fats in there. I put avocados in there, cashew butter, those types of things to add those healthy fats and for the most part i do try to like do like a ketosis kind of diet when i'm not working out like so if i don't work out saturday sunday you know friday and saturday i won't eat any carbs

at all but then when i do eat carbs i try to stay in like organic like yams sweet potatoes those healthy like grown types of things i stay away from rice they're from pasta and i think we've the general thing for everybody and i do it for myself is like if you're worried about If you're body conscious or you're worried about aging too fast, the best thing you do is the less processed, the better. Like natural, just put stuff in your body that you know are good for you. Yeah. Like more vegetables.

Yeah. It's like, it's not hard to, like you said, we were at, we were at Fido's right before we got here. I looked at the menu and I was like, okay, I'll do the flank steak because that's the leanest cut of steak. They don't have chicken here. Okay, give me no cheese, give me no toast. Like, I don't need any of that stuff. Right. Like that stuff just slows you down.

And there is a process, like you said, like seven days. And you're like, fuck, man, I could really use. you know, a Snickers bar, I could do this. A little carb load. Yeah. And cheap meals are awesome. Like, cheap meals are the best.

In the season, like, people ask me like, oh, you must be so strict during the season. When I'm kind of like really strict January through July. Yeah. And then I start to waver bad, like October, November to the point. Like, I'm looking at December like, dude. Yeah. Lock it up. Yeah, got a little muffin top.

Yeah. You're going to lock it up. Well, like having quote unquote cheat meals, like that's so beneficial for the body. Yeah. You need to. Yeah. Mine will just stay away from like dairy and gluten. Yeah.

And just eat clean, organic. I get some delivery meal, service with Medbog meals, and then we cook a lot. Right. So whole food, shit like that. And then like the good fats, like you're saying, like a lot of people are like, oh my gosh, it's fat. I'm like, those are the best. It gives you energy.

You are so thrown off. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like when they had global warming 20 years ago, like, okay, we'll call it climate change and make it sound better or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Just change fat, change fats to something else. Right.

Like, oh, I need to eat those. Exactly. Yeah. That's a good point. It's just, I just think, people are so like, oh, I can't do this. it's really not hard walk just walk to you're tired yeah and then get in your car and drive wherever like it's like you said you have an app on your phone that you don't have to get out of your house to go and do things just to be active now is it people like north america the way like i'll go

like i went to london to play a football game that's the first time i've been across the pond the one the major thing i noticed everyone no one's fat because everyone's got everyone's meals are portion better they're healthier they're not as much pesticides a bunch of shit in there that we don't eat. You know, you watch movies like, what's that movie? From the McDonald's movie. Oh, yeah, yeah. Have you seen that movie? No, yeah. It's incredible. Yeah, like he's, you know, just the cheat codes, the shortcuts you can take to, you know, get a meal across to your overhead's a little lower. Like, that's the kind of stuff people need to be looking into. It's crazy. And today, we should be

the fittest we've ever been ever as a human being, right? We have all the tools. You can literally sit there in your living room, download an app like the booth camp app or go. There you go. There you go. But even if you don't need to do that, you can go to YouTube and you've got millions of workouts. You can sit there on your ass. You can go to Amazon, order weights that show up to your doorstep the next day, right? Yeah, that's true. You have so much out there right now. And again, a lot of it is the food, which is probably 70, 80 percent of, you know, reaching your goals.

But the food just screws everybody up. The biggest thing I hear all the time is people talk about, like, well, you're a football player. Like, you get to go work out. That's your job. Like, you have to go work out. It's like, yeah, that's true. And I'm super lucky to be able to do that. But it's not hard.

Like we were talking, you get up at five, you get up and do a work at a 5.30 in the morning. Like, what time do you get up in the mornings then? Five. 4.30. 430. Yeah. Like, and those types of things. Like, it takes a little bit.

But there's time. You just got to make the time. You structure yourself a little bit better. Know, like, I have to do this to this. And I have to be done by this so I can go do X, Y, and Z. You know, I have, I have a two-year-old daughter. She's going to get older. And I'm going to want when I retire to take her to school to go to those things.

and I'm going to have to get on that 430 train to where I can get my things done selfishly for myself. Exactly. And then I can go be the family man, be the dad and go to the things, be a coach or whatever it is my daughter wants to do that I can, you know, jump in on. Those are the important things. But people are so focused on, you know, staring at social media, that blue light. That's going to, that literally stimulates your brain to the point where people are, there's so much insomnia now, so much anxiety now that people have. It's like, yo, an hour before you go to bed, just turn your phone off. And I bet you fall asleep so much faster.

Exactly. Read a book. Yeah. You know, it's so basic and the answers are so right in front of you that you don't, like, it's wild how people just, if they just open their eyes and looked up from their phone, they could, it's so much it could be figured out. It's insane. Yeah. And back to your daughter, congrats on that, by the way. I appreciate that.

I have a feeling that our little hunch that her first boyfriend is going to be a little bit nervous coming to your house. Yeah. We've talked about we were talking about the other day. What are you doing? You're talking about blue light. Buy some blue light blockers on Amazon next. They don't sponsor us. They do not sponsor us.

We're going to bleep all that out. Believe everyone to it out. God. Blue light blockers. How are you disrespectful to your own, to your own podcast? I'm not. What do you mean? You're disrespecting us with the blue light blockers.

I'm just letting the people know, like, you get blue light blockers too, the stuff you were hating on the last. Yeah, I did hate on those, but they are, they are beneficial. Are those actually beneficial right there? They're just style. There are blue light blockers. There's no way those are. No, I really got. I just really went on Amazon, typed in blue light blockers and then ordered the bestseller.

Nice. So that's what I did. It looks like Bob. Zar. Have you seen that UFO Netflix show that every He was at your house and it was up on Netflix and Taylor's like, you have to watch this. I listen to a little bit of that Joe Rogan pod

where everybody's about to Storm Area 51. Oh, yeah, that's crazy. Have you signed that petition? I did not sign it. Yeah. No. Has it been presented to you? It hasn't. Why? Are you trying to present it to me right now? No, because I'm a big, like,

I'm a big Joe Rogan guy. Yeah, I like Joe Rogan guy. And he said, don't do it. So I'm saying don't do it. There you go. Whatever he says. He's like, uh, do you don't. last guy I tried to storm area 51 got shot and killed. Yeah, they were saying like you guys can try and storm on this place, but you're going to get

fucked up. But if there's a half of a million people, they're going to bring in a million. You think they're just going to, no, I know. No, they'll bring in 300 guys, dude. And it'll be like the movie 300 and it'll just be trained people versus guys with rakes running out there. Yeah. Like, you think they'll mow down half a million people?

But anyways, with the glasses, you should be right next to Bob Azar in front of those millions of people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That stuff's wild. Do you think there's aliens out there? Oh, man.

I don't know. I think, like, the most interesting thing, I always ask this. Would you want to know everything about the ocean and what's in the ocean or everything about the universe? That's a good question. That's a really good question. I think it's easy, like the universe, because there's no end to it. Like, there's billions of universes, right? And we're just one of them.

Like, there's got to be shit out there that we don't know about. That's true. We've only discovered what? Like 90. We've only discovered 3% of the ocean, though? Really? I think so, yeah. It's above 90 that we haven't discovered.

We know more about the solar system right now than we do about our own oceans. Really? Yeah. That's like a proven thing, I think. Zach, you look that up, dude, just to make sure. He said, that's a proven thing. So what would you pick? I don't know.

Honestly, I'd probably pick... Universe. I love being in the ocean. I try to surf all the time. I'm not a surfer because I'm not good. I'm a kook. But I do my best. But like, being in the ocean, there's those nerves anyway because you know there's great white sharks.

You know, there's all kinds of stuff. And if I were to know there was like still megalodons. or some other crazy shit that you see in those like... Wow. Jurassic Park movies. Like, I might be not as excited about getting in the water. Yeah. As far as space goes, if there's aliens, like, damned if you do, damned if you don't,

I saw something on Instagram, like a while back. It's like, we're either, there's either people in space or we're completely alone. And both of them are, like, equally terrifying. Yeah. But there's no way we are the only... There's no way. Like, it's so selfish of us to actually think. That we are the only living.

And like, this is it? Yeah. We've done it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? There's something so much bigger than us that is out there watching us. Only 5% of the oceans. Only 5% of the ocean is going to export.

That's what dude. That's our own earth. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you. I think universe because we live on, we live with the ocean. Yeah, we have figured out that plastic thing too. That's way too much plastic going on, dude. You see those things on Instagram all the time?

Which is. I saw one over here. Leo is big on that plastic in the ocean. Oh, Leo is a big like, Animal rights, everything. The turtle had a strong in snows. Really? Yeah, dude, it's like, it's crazy the amount of plastic that's going in.

But, like, we don't even, like, hemp products, you know, you know what hemp is. Oh, yeah. So hemp, if you were just to produce hemp and you can make over 100,000 products that would be biodegradable, that would literally get you get rid of the use of plastic. And you wouldn't have to do, like, no more plastic cups, no more plastic straws. Like, I just had one of those. I'm not calling you out well. And, like, you wouldn't.

That's like biodegradable in like 10,000. years. Like you put that in the ground and that's going to be there for a long, it's well past you're gone. So it just kind of kills everything. It's like, you know, can we fix the world? Probably not. No, but we can help it. But you can help it a little bit. It's not the end of the world. I mean, it is actually, but, you know, we'll be dead. It's our kids, kids, kids, homes, you know, which is kind of a shitty deal. So, like, are you nervous about your girl growing up, like in the cell phone age, social media age? Like, those have to be thoughts going three had, right? Like, when did she get a phone? Like, what's going to be like? Yeah, that's a tough

question. Like, I think there'll be a point when, like, she's got a phone because she's got a phone already. Yeah, she's got like this little phone and she hands it to me all the time and I have to answer it. But I think there'll be a point like since there's so much technology and no one has, like when we grew up, everyone had house phones. So your parents would pick up and call the other house phone, hey, you know, we're Sean at. What's he doing? And so I think if you, you can do phones where I pick my phone up and he can only call two numbers and it can't do anything else. She'll probably have something like

that at a younger age where she's allowed to go to friends' houses and stuff like that. But having an actual cell phone that I'm using, it's tough to say I don't have a cell phone until I was 15 years old. Yeah. I know. And that's a little bit late. But, dude, I don't know. That's hard. Like the next generation of technology. By that time, you don't know what's going to be out there. Yeah, and everyone's

trying to be, we were talking about this a couple podcasts ago. Like, everyone's trying to be like like social media is such a great thing because it allows kids to not think themselves well I'll probably do this and then I'll be you know do insurance and then that'll be it gives you an opportunity to kind of like find out what your passion is going to be because you're open to so many different avenues but a lot of times you got these 12 year old white kids hitting the fucking dab you know 47 times ruining every dance move that's ever been made and you have these other kids like you know we used to watch jackass and cK why and i always bring that up because it's like

we used to do dumb shit like that. Right. That was the only, like, that's the only tapes we got those. But not films. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. There's films. Now, like, you got like the short, five foot guy yelling at somebody at a donut shop, getting tackled and he's famous. You got a long,

yeah. Like, people are being praised for being lazy and being, you know, just like ridiculous. Yeah. Well, these guys,

well, the video game, too. Video game guys now. Yeah. They're not, they're not lazy. I'm saying they're not lazy.

Like, they're not lazy. What they, what they did is a, perfect example of what social media can do. Like what, you know, having a product, like you have people here taking pictures, like you're doing a great job of networking and making your brand a bigger thing. That's huge.

And so those guys, like, I'm really good at video games. If I just film myself playing video games and talking shit to other people, Millionaire. And they're making, yeah, they're making a shit. Or you put on your story, hey, is there anybody out there that wants to do some media work for me? And you got some young student that's like, yo, I love this stuff. I'll help you out.

And they just come and you guys collaborate and they just work together and you build something up. Like people couldn't do that back in the day. Oh, it's crazy. Back when we were younger. Here's where I think social media is going in, and I think this is going to be the next big thing, and I just don't have time to make it.

So whoever does this, just give me a little shout out. But I feel like there's going to be a little camera that you're going to have somewhere, like on your head or whatever. That's going to be a live view at all times. Right. So if you're like, you're in a game, it's like Instagram, be like, all right, I'm going to follow Taylor and watch his live view. Because everybody wants to live through these people.

Everybody wants to see whatever he's doing. That's not idea at all. And then people will charge, like, in the Super Bowl, you're charging like $15,000 to be live with Taylor throughout the game, right? And they're sitting there, and they just have your view. Some little camera on it's kind of cool as fuck. Like, you know what I'm saying? Well, it's like, it's like GoPro's. Because how much more can we get now?

Yeah. Like, you got Sean White doing backflips on a half pipe at the X games, and he's got a GoPro on top of his head. They're showing you everything. Yeah. And it would be so easy. Like, they have spy glasses now and they have little cameras that are literally this big. Yeah, it's like the Snapchat glasses. The Snapchat glasses.

It's crazy. It'd be something to just turn on and then... You got the time to make that. You better... You better make that fast. Exactly. You got to know the right people for stuff like that. Shit, that'd be tough.

Let's get into the... Let's get into the Niti Gritty. To the whiskey? Is that what we're getting into? Made episode live... You want to take a shot? On what? Let's do it.

Let's have a little glass. That's that Netflix show, right? What was that? You got to go ahead. Yeah, so they basically made a show in an episode all about if your life was just constantly live streamed. Do you have followers and stuff like that? Yeah, anybody in the world can tune in.

Really? Yeah, so I'm late to this idea. Yeah, it's already out there. But Black Mirror is. I was going to say Black Mirror. Is it Black Mirror? It's the best show. Yeah.

And so it's all kind of very dark futuristic. Are you talking about nosedive that episode? I can't remember what it's called, but... Where you had the rating above your head? That was a different one, but... Oh, I think I've seen that one. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, you're talking about the one where you could rewind it, so then the guy ended up seeing like his girl. That was another one as well. Yeah, they're all like really dark futuristic. Yeah. But they did make an episode about that being live stream constantly. And it was pretty scary. Thank you.

Did you see the new one? The new episode? I did. Striking vipers? Let me know when you want to play sometime. Striking vipers? Yeah, striking vipers. I'll play.

All right. Let me know. We'll play. I saw a Black Mirror episode and it was like this guy, this guy's wife died and they had the capacity to use her consciousness and put it in his brain. And then he got sick of it because he could feel like her, his like blood pressure. He'd like start looking at other women and she'd get jealous. But then he got the ability to like turn her off and on. And then he transferred her to a bear.

It was a lot. It's crazy, dude. But I, for some reason, always think about that episode. That fucked me up for some reason. Like if I was like caught in like Will's brain and I had to live and he could just turn me off and on, turn me off. And then 10 years later like, you know, people are older. I have no idea what the hell happened. That would be, that's some wild shit.

But like, where do these people get these ideas? like this stuff's out there. It's insane. It's got it. I don't want to start to a conspiracy theory podcast, but like there's some shit going down. We don't know about it.

Dude, I love conspiracy theories. Are you? Yeah. Like what about JFK? He's for sure. It was for sure. It was for sure inside deal.

We played the Cowboys Monday night. You went to it. And like during the day like of before the game, like you can go do whatever you want. Yeah. And I went to where JFK got shot and they have exes. They still have conspiracy theorists out there. Yeah.

And like you're looking and they're telling you, they're showing you the video while telling you're like, there's no. No way. Like John, whatever this guy's name, I was about to say, John Wolkspooth.

That's not him. No. But you know what I'm saying? He had a bolt action rifle. You can't make those shots that fast or however. Like, even if you're this type of a marksman, then he got the guys on the grassy and all.

The one that was like the craziest theory for that one, uh, was his own secret service guys riding in the car behind him. And there's a documentary on it. There's a book about it. And it was pretty damn legit when I watched it. But they thought this guy like, they all went out the night.

four two partying and it's almost like the secret service guy behind them stood up or whatever the gun fired and they had all the angles where it hit him i forget what it's called but that was like one of the biggest theories is that their own guy like accidentally did it accidentally did it he's like accidentally like i mean i'll let you know the name of it but it's pretty i'm gullible though dude like i'll sit there and just listen and take in whatever you're saying and if it resonates with me i'm like yeah i can see i'll take that yeah i'll take that yeah i don't that's my issue i don't look into shit. Like, if you tell me something, you're like, okay, cool. I'm going to tell somebody that thing as if it was my own idea. Like in an hour and a half. I'm going to go home. I'm like,

yeah, you get the JFK thing. So like his guy, I'll be like, like, it was my own idea. And if you butcher it, you're like, I was talking to this expert. I don't know. He can explain it better than that. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Dude, oh my God. So, Bachelorette. How sick of you or are to, are you of talking about that kind of stuff? No, I get it because, you know, that's where I'm known from. And it's such a wild crazy phenomenon that it's very intriguing to people like i get it i get it uh people want to know the ends and out of it and behind the scenes and and what we go through on there is so different than what everybody actually sees on the TVs and um but yeah i realize i'm gonna have to talk about

that probably for the next 50 years but yeah no no you're definitely well the thing is like every sense of a word of a sense of the word is like you won you know what i and i know it's always a weird thing always yeah that's like a reality tv show like they're winning and losing involved in those sense of things and you technically won the show. And, like, he's never seen the show. You can explain it a little bit. No, I've seen the show.

I just, when we were talking about it, I'm just asking questions because I don't know, whatever event or part was talked about when it's the final three, what's it called? Oh, yeah. That's just what I ask about. And then I like, what I'm curious about is how much different was being on the show

than before you even signed up for the show, thinking of what probably it is and how different is it when you're actually there. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great question. And how set up shit is. Yeah, it's, uh, you kind of like, you can't prepare for it in any way. And I went into it being like, all right, I'll be there for a few weeks.

I'll meet some cool guys. No way in hell I'm going to get engaged. And I told my family that. I'm like, I'm just going to go. It'll be a good experience. Like, hopefully I have a connection with her. And if it does, we'll see what happens. Um, but then it was just like, night one was just like game on.

Like it was, it just happened so fast for me. because they give out the first impression rose, which is like the first rose of the whole season. She gave that to me. So like right out of the gates, it was like, all right, we're doing this thing. So it was different from that aspect. What makes you like, what makes you, obviously you want to go and meet the gal, but what also makes you want to go on it?

Just the experience of because the show is known to travel all over the world. And it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. Were you in fitness at this? I was. Yeah, I was doing personal training on the side. So it's another huge opportunity. Yeah. Personality. Be a personality. Yeah. And that's honestly, I think our season was probably one of the last seasons where we went into it. The guys like went into it with a genuine mindset of like going to actually like have fun, meet the girl. Now it's just like a business. It's completely changed with social media. Right. Because people are like, oh, I want to go build the brand. I'm going to go on that show and start selling tea when I get off that show. For us, it wasn't like that. fucking thing. It wasn't like that for us. And we were like, holy shit, getting a lot of followers. Like, we didn't expect that. So I didn't go on there, like, thinking I was going to build a brand at all.

That kind of just came as a bonus. Did you, the far that you got into it, though, were you starting to think like, yeah, this is going to be. That's just been around for 25 years, man. You're like, in my going down this wormhole that I didn't think I'd go down? Yeah, it just happened so fast. And it was the producers kept on telling me, I think they were probably, this guy's a fucking, he's clueless because he'll understand how crazy it's going to be. They kept being like, do you realize, like, how crazy your life's going to be after this? and like how much everything's going to change.

And I'm like, no, not really. It's just like a show. They're like, no, but like, you know, 10 million people watch it every Monday. Once it gets down to the last several guys. One of those 10 million people, dude, I get into that shit. Yeah. I wasn't like, I think, I told you this. Like your, your season was the first season or like, Bachelor at whatever that I watched.

I was dating a girl and she's like, you had to watch something like stupid. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. We talked about your demographic was like 96, like four. Yeah. It's all girls. Like I'm part of that 4% now.

Yeah. I'm like, it was so dumb. And I'm watching it. At the end, I'm like, you know, this guy makes a fuck boy, dude. Like, he's got to get his ass out of here. He's got to get his out of here. I got to make sure he wins this thing. I always joke.

Like, you started rooting for dudes and stuff like that. Last night, I record it. So I just watch a Tuesday because I don't like watching commercials. Yeah. So I'm watching last night. Do you follow all this stuff after? No, I honestly, I haven't been able to, since I got off the show, I can't watch it. It's like PTSD.

It's like now that I've been through it and now that I know what happens versus what's shown. Like, it's tough to watch. That's tough to watch. I bet that's why. Wasn't the girlfriend at that time? Didn't she go on it? No, she's on a different TV show now.

Oh. It's not important. We're not pop off and that off either. Yeah, but the guys, like I always laugh because there's so many dudes that watch it, but they just don't admit it, right?

Because they sit there on their couch with their girls. That's how it is for me sometimes because my girl Charo, she's like, she's like, oh, it's my guilty pleasure and I'm like, you know, being a dude, like, I don't want to watch this.

Yes. And I remember watching before. I went on, like my sisters were obsessed with it and I'd sit down there and watch. Yeah. Yeah. You start rooting for people. Yeah. I'm sitting there and I'm like all in. I'm hey, let's fast forward this part. Yeah. And then like as a guy watching The Bachelor is pretty awesome because it's a bunch

of good looking girls and you're like, all right. She's pretty hot. She's pretty hot. Yeah. Good for that guy, dude. Yeah. Dude, what's it like being around all the all the dudes though? You know what I mean? Everybody's always like, I don't know if I could be in a room. Everybody's like, oh, no, I'm not, I wouldn't want to be around all these dudes fighting over one chick. Yeah. The thing is is that you be. become like a support system from one another, as stupid as that sounds, but you are literally

the only thing you guys have. You don't have your phone. You don't have the TV. You don't have the internet. You can't listen to music. You're stuck in a house. They want to make you as uncomfortable as possible. So it would just be like this.

It'd be like this for 20 hours a day. Literally, I would say that if I got five hours of sleep, four or five hours of sleep in one night, that'd be a lot of sleep. The rest of time, you're just sitting around, just hanging out. with cameras on your face and then you'd go into an ITM room which is in the moment to go do your interviews

and then other than that you can't do anything besides sit there and it's just like it's like a concentration camp yeah and then the girl's not even there for like 90% of the time you're literally just with the guys and then the girl will come in for like five minutes

and everybody's all excited and she'll be like all right um here's the date card or no she won't even come in it'd be hair person that would come in. He'd be like, here's a date card. And then somebody would read it and be like, all right, Caitlin wants to take out Taylor today. And everybody's like, all right, yeah, go Taylor. And then you leave. Because you finally get to leave the house. You get to leave the house. You're so excited. Yeah. Go smell that air. That's what I think like, and it's so funny. And it's so funny, you see all the reactions on TV.

Everybody's so pumped up. And I think like half of it is that they get to leave the damn house and get away from all the guys. That's wild. Yeah, I can't imagine being there with like, like, 25 dudes and be like, all right, cool. So we're all going to date the same girl. That's right. Yeah. But like, I feel like all those guys would go into it. Like, you're like, hey, this is an experience. It is what it is.

And I'd be more drawn to like hang out with the dudes. Like, all right. What's up? Hey, what's up? I'm Taylor. Again, we didn't hang out. And then, like, at what point in the show were you like, I'm actually starting to catch some feelings?

When you got that first rose, your part, I know. It was a good question. Yeah. It was pretty early for me. I caught the feelings pretty damn early. The puppy love, dude. Yeah, that puppy love. And again, though, it's also a situation where it's, uh, you have to really check in with

yourself to figure out what it is that you're feeling because like I was saying, that's the only thing you have are the guys and the girl. So when you do finally get to see the girl, it's kind of like another support system and you're in it together, right? And you're falling in love. But you got to try and figure out if it's manufactured feelings or legit feelings because you got producers down your throat. Like you love her, you love her, you love her. Or like, you know, they want the ratings. They need to love. And then you look back at it. And it's like, well damn every single guy that I was with said that they were in love with her and but then months after the show you're like you talk to these guys it's like no they weren't you know yeah but when you're in that situation it's it's easy to fall in love yeah and you got those training camp eyes if we yeah oh you're kind of blocked off everything you see one chick dude yeah you go like in college you're like you know there's like trainers and stuff like that and the girls are like freshman or sophomores and you're like fours or five in it yeah you're like a week in it yeah you're like you're like fours or five in it Two weeks in, you're like, yo, this kid, I think I love her, dude.

Yeah, yeah. You've only seen dudes for the last, like, two weeks, and you're like, I got to, I got to figure something out here. There's, like, if we, if we spent the next eight weeks in this bus, yeah, it would be, it would take us probably three days to lose, probably. I would. You look at me. He's like, hey, man, you, you want to?

I got to scratch his edge. Do you want to do something? I want to do something? If we sat in this bus for eight weeks after three days, it would be really easy to lose the perspective of what the outside world is all doing. Yeah. It becomes your reality. It's insane.

And then you're, like from a show standpoint, they're geniuses because your lack of sleep, you're going to five hours a day, which you're not going to function at your highest. They're probably shoving alcohol. Every time I see you damn guys on the show, it's like you're having a drink. Okay, let's have a toast. Those do this. Anywhere you sit. There's alcohol everywhere. Wherever you go, yeah.

It's a depressant. It's going to make you moody with not enough sleep. You're going to get, you're hurting there. The food sucks. Testosterone's high. You can't really work out. Yeah. From a primitive instinct, all these dudes are legit just trying to have sex with this girl.

like from a completely like caveman. Survive and reproduce. Yeah, survive and reproduce. That's what we're literally evolution. That's what we're here to do. And so even though it's not as barbaric as that, you got all these dudes in here kind of like, you got testosterone, testosterone, testosterone,

leak one out. How does the testosterone feel about the one getting leaked out? Yeah. You know, it's just like. And then people sit in on the other side of the TV screen watching it and everybody's like, why are these dudes so dramatic and emotional? It's like, well, shit, I probably saw the last 10 guys on that show who were there. I saw every single one of them cry at some point, just broken down for like, you literally get broken down, broken down.

And it's so uncomfortable. And you're just going through all these emotions. Like even like the first week, the first night you're in that house. When after the rose ceremony, well, ours was a little different. That was a two-night thing. But when you move into the mansion, they have three bedrooms. And the bedroom that I was in is probably no bigger than this bus. No bigger.

And there was three bunk beds. the twin-sized beds and they put assigned names on the bed so they had to choose where you slept so it was like all the biggest dudes were on the top bunk and jammed in this little room and there was three of those rooms like that so they just try to make you

I think as uncomfortable as possible to get those emotions out of you get those feelings out of you get you little cranky because the first night you're all boys and you're all like drinking like oh yeah this is going to be the most boring season ever like we know nobody's going to get in fights or any of that bullshit

and then time goes on and you're just like so beaten down. How much did you end up like, do guys kind of get into it and scrap a little bit verbally and shit like this? You guys are a fight fight. Or you're laying in their bunk beds and they say something? And you don't say that. Yeah. Yeah.

I got long. Shons a dick. Fuck you, dude. And like you said kind of a fight with no cameras there. Somebody gets beat with a pillowcase full of soap. What the fuck do you say, dude? Yeah. I got along great with everybody.

So from one guy on the show and that was pretty like well. That was like one of the main storylines. Who was it cool now? Nick. Okay. Do you guys talk now? I mean, if we see each other, whatever, we're cool. Like, we did an event, a charity event together afterwards.

Like, now it's all, like, in the past. Right, right. But I understand what they were both, like, they were setting it up. I mean, that was the main storyline. And they wanted that drama. It was like, the guy, the frontrunner who got the first impression rose and they're madly in love. And then this guy comes onto the show halfway through,

like he's already been in the season. Like, I mean, they put this. Like, she was already texting the dude or something like that? Yeah, she was already talking to the guy. So they made this big storyline about it. And they had, you know, they kept on like, they would say stuff to me, say stuff to him, whatever, to get this drama. And it worked.

But as far as like fighting, I think like the one time where I was like probably the most like upset or pissed was after the fantasy sweet night. And so I finally like was with Caitlin all night long. The fantasy sweet night is that when you're one of the final guys? Yeah. The overnight deal? Yeah. And so like at that point, it's always a roller coaster emotion. You're feeling good.

You're up. you're feeling good, they try and bring you back down. So it's like, all right, we just had a good night together. I just had to leave her. And then I walk back to my little castle because I was in Ireland. And anytime you see like a big crew of cameras come around you, you know something's about to happen. Yeah.

So I walk outside and this whole camera crew is following me. And I see people like running around like 100 yards in the front of me. I'm like, oh, fuck. Like what's going on? And then like I go to my little castle and then Nick's just standing at my door. He's like, hey man, can we talk? And I'm like. No, why do you want to talk?

Like, I was just with Caitlin all night. We got like 20 minutes of sleep. Like the last thing I want to do is talk to you. I'm out of boy, 20 minutes of sleep. There we go. We got like 20 minutes. So what do you want to talk about? He wanted, I think, just trying to hash it out.

Like that late? It was in the morning. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like 8 a. Can we talk? No, I'm going to say that late in the game. Oh, way in the game.

Yeah. No, we're not hashed things out. Yeah. We got three more weeks in this thing. Like, get the fuck way. Yeah. Like, we're done here. Let's just.

Yeah. What's it like at that point when you're clearly like into the chick and love with the chick and then there's three of you and you're all getting kind of the same thing. Like if you got 20 minutes of sleep, you're probably in your mind thinking like, oh, yeah. Yeah, of course. But the other guy, the other Ben, he was my best friend on the show and we're still good buddies. And so we ruined with each other since the first night until about eight or nine weeks left. We were roommates the entire time. And we got real close.

And they split us up when it got to the final. three, they split us up. So we were all by ourselves. We each had our own producer. But, I mean, you're fine with it all the way up until, like, the very end. When it's, like, almost done, then you got, you caught some really serious feelings at that point. And I remember, like, the turning point from me, we were in Ireland and me and Ben room together. And he was coming home from his date.

It was like, three in the morning. And I'm like, all right. Yeah, he was just with Caitlin all night. I'm like, how was it? He's like, it's awesome. I'm like, all right. Do you guys, geez. Later.

Like, good night. I don't want to talk. But how awesome? But don't fucking say it off. You guys, you weren't like, hey, we got after it. Yeah, it's kind of just like, you know that everybody's making out with her. You know, like that. You see it.

Well, the overnights, too, everything's implied, right? Yeah, everything's implied. You don't know what actually happens. But yeah, yeah. And so I like, you did it and we did it. And that's it. Did you watch your season after? Did you watch a show?

Like, every week would you watch or did you see it before? It was tough for me because I'm like, shit, I want to watch this, but also it's my fiance now. Yeah. And so. Yeah, no doubt, dude. Did you ask her, would you ask her a lot of shit too? No, it's like almost I don't want to know.

Yeah. And when you go into it, you have that mentality. It was always, I always say it was always a battle of your brain versus your heart. Like your heart's like, shit. That really hurts. Like, she's hooking up another guy, but your brain's like, you're on the bachelorette. It's part. It's how it works.

Logical. But you can't, like, you can't tell your heart to. be like just shut the fuck up like it's the bachelette so that was tough but she would get the episodes a week in advance uh before it aired and so she would watch the episode and then she would face time me and watch our parts together but that even sucked because she'd be watching it and she like all right yep don't watch this part and i'm like okay what's going like you know so she would like screen it for me yeah um so yeah i didn't see much of it but then the parts i did see this it was very,

as heavily edited like any reality shows. No doubt you're probably watching. Man, I wish it's fucking show this stuff. Like, they're, they're kind of painting this picture of me. Oh, man.

That was the one thing that made me so upset was there was so many good moments and they had so much footage, but they just had to, you know, they film 20 hours a day, seven days a week, and you're putting together an hour

or two hour episode each week. Yeah. So there's so much stuff that's left out. And I'm like, damn, why don't they put that? And then like you're saying,

they have their storyline that they're going with. So they have their characters, the roles that you're playing. So they're airing the stuff that works with those roles. It's so easy to manipulate, too. Like, if you said, yeah, we had a good time and they just put like cricket noises in the back. Like, maybe they didn't have a good time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

That is so easy. It's so easy. To manipulate it. Yeah, I think we had a great time. And she's like walking by herself and cricket. They want to send up. Like, we actually did have a good time. Yeah.

Like the third weekend, there was like. the third rose ceremony and it like it pans to me and I'm standing there and it has me talking and you have hours of yourself talking on camera and it was like yeah I really hope I get a rose because I and it's like love her and I'm like whoa whoa whoa I didn't say love three weeks into the season yeah yeah yeah let's settle down that is brutal do you like like you got to sign your rights away a little bit when you go on that show sign your rights yeah it's like a 30 page contract no way it's like and you have you have no right to say like the depiction of how you were represented in the show, right?

No, it's like you will, you can be embarrassed. It can cause depression, like all this stuff. Are you taking Zoloft? Are you starting a contract, dude? Yeah, and you're just like, all right, yeah. You don't really think about it. This TV show may cause you to, oh, kill yourself. Okay, well, let me sign right here.

Suicidal. But you don't think about that in advance, right? You're just like, oh, yeah, cool, whatever, it's going to be fun. I'll sign this. Texting your boys, y'all, I'm going. going, boys rolling. Yeah. And then you look back at it and you're like, shit, what did that contract say?

So like you guys were engaged, what, three years? Yeah, three years. Why does that have, why does that last so long? Because how long does a show last? I'm sorry, I apologize for asking these kinds of questions. No, fine. The show, it's about 12 weeks of filming. And then you, so you get engaged. Why does an engagement last?

So are you guys? Because you don't really know the person. Correct. Yeah. But before even that, like take us, like, so you get, engaged, right? Emotions are through the roof. You're feeling. Oh, my God. We're going to New York, LA. We've been to

Ireland. We've been to L.A. We've done it all. We flew in a helicopter together. It was amazing. And then you go back to Nashville, Tennessee. Well, the thing with ours, which was different, and I think that helped us out. We had all the normal dates. I didn't get any helicopter rides. I didn't get, like, I had stuff that you would actually do

with somebody in real life, which we both really loved. Like, I had a kayaking date, which was cool. we had what else did we do shit besides a rap battle I wouldn't really do that

in the weekends but I had a rap battle in New York City he said yeah the normal shit with what was his name shit this is a little boothie yeah a little boothie

there you go man I need to think of that rapper's name but oh Dougie Dougie Fresh Dougie Fresh yeah so we had a rap battle with him generic rap name of all time.

Yeah. So, but we had like a picnic, like none of the fancy, fancy shit. Do you get to set that? We went golfing together, which was cool. Yeah, that's rad. But then coming back to Nashville, it was tough because this is the other weird thing. We were engaged, but we couldn't tell anybody about it. Really?

So, and it took about. Oh, because the show. Yeah, it took like three or four weeks before it started airing. So we're engaged. We have three or four weeks together. And then it airs for 12 weeks. And so you still can't tell anybody that you're engaged. So I just told my immediate family, my dad and my two sisters were the only people that knew I was engaged.

And then they would fly us out every week, every other weekend to Los Angeles under aliases. Like I had like, they picked me up at my place and my name was Eric. Like you're Eric? I'm like, yep, all right. And they would bring to the airport, fly me. And then pick me up with a car. They'd pick her up in a separate car at a different. time. They'd drive us into the hills out in Hollywood, LA, and it would be a different mansion or

house every time we met. It'd be secluded, fences, trees, so nobody could see you. And then they'd bring you in there. And then they'd put you in the house. And it would be like all of your favorite alcohol, all of your favorite food. And you'd be like, all right, have fun for the next three days. Oh my God. That sounds amazing. Yeah. It was cool. Yeah. But it's still such a fantasy life. Yeah. And they'd have like a producer that would sit in the house. too who probably hated us but yeah it would uh so they'd want you to kind of get to

know one another because you don't like I always say if I add up all the time that I spent with Caitlin on that show like every minute out of those 12 weeks that I was there I probably spent like eight 10 hours with her that's cool that is wild

if you're in Nashville like can you even go without with permission would you have to ask permission to like go like hey can I go out to dinner with the boys No, we went to have to ask. No, nope. We went out that one night, so the one night that I think I ended up, no, that wasn't that night. There was a night. Yeah, we can talk about that night. That night was funny.

That was a fun night. Caitlin, by accident, put on Snapchat a picture of me and her bed like five weeks into the season. And that's my accident. Yeah, so we were laying in bed and she was Snapchat and one of the producers, like just all excited. Like, hey, we're together. And she was snapping this out. And then I got off the bed and I went to my phone and my phone was just blowing up. And I was like, what the fuck?

And I go on Twitter and my face is all over Twitter from like three minutes ago. And I'm like, holy shit, like, freaking out. I'm like, I did something bad. I thought it was me. I did something bad. And I was like hunched over the bed. Like I couldn't breathe because I was so damn nervous. And she's like, I can't believe you did that.

And I'm like, it's not on my phone. I'm like, check your phone. And she was, this one's Snapchat was kind of new. she was sending it, but she was also putting it to her story, which she didn't know. She had hundreds of thousands of followers on her Snapchat. Oh, my God. Within three minutes, dude. Oh, it was all over the place.

It was all over the news. That shows no joke. Yeah. That shows no joke at all. So they ended up, they called us, obviously pissed off. They're like, we're sending a car to pick up Sean. They picked me up in L.A. They drove me five hours overnight to Las Vegas because they didn't want me to be seen at L.A.X.

they drove her to LAX. They flew me back to Nashville. They said, once you get back to Nashville, shave your beard, and then go meet so-and-so at the Nissan Stadium. It was during CMA Fest. And then they told her to go to Chicago to meet up with her friends. And so then they brought me to the Nissan Stadium and basically parading me around

and just having me seen Thurne C-M-A-Fest. So people were getting photos. And so, and then Caitlin's doing social media stuff to try and be like, oh, yeah. No, she's in Nashville. Caitlin's in Chicago. They weren't together in bed last night. Dude, that is crazy.

Because, like, she... What a wild gig. Yeah, because she almost got sued, like, $5 million for that for breaching contract. She got you? She almost did. Holy shit. Yeah, that's part of her contract. If you spoil...

$5 million. Yeah, if you spoil the ending of the show. Yeah, I mean, that show... I mean, you said 10 million people every Monday watch it. I mean, yeah, like the bigger episodes. You get up to 10 million. Fuck, man. That's fucking crazy, dude.

That's like only... a few less than us. How many views we got on this podcast? Yeah. It's pretty crazy. It's a pretty big deal, dude. Yeah. Stuff's different.

I was nervous this morning. Stuff's just different now, dude. It's just a while. That's crazy. So you guys broke it off. It's really none of our business. Yeah. But yeah, dude, you guys, how long after the show were we hanging out?

That was like a little bit. That was right in the thick of it. That was like during it airing. Was it really? Yeah. Because I remember Jared came out to me and he was like, hey, man, like, big fans of the show I'm watching you. I'm with Kings of Leon.

And then you guys were there. Yeah. Dude, that's how we met too. Yeah. Because I came out my draft song. We had like walkout songs like baseball. And so when I got drafted,

I came out to a Rock City by Kings of Leon. Nice. And he came out to me a losers one night and I said, hey, I'm Jared. I'm in Kings of Leon. Yeah. I'm like, I literally, like he'll tell the story the same way.

Like I was like, sure, dude, whatever. And I kind of. And he like came back and he was like on the basis. And I was like, oh shit. No, really? Really? Yeah. And like we like that, we became boys after that.

But he did do that because I remember. Yeah. I text them Sunday night. I was like, you guys watching tonight? And they're like watching what? I was like, dude, the bachelor, the bachelor's on. The bachelor's, it's Monday, dude.

I was like, oh shit. My days mixed up. Yeah. But we were talking about like two days ago. They said I was having you on. That was a funny night where it act me. Yeah, we started acting. You were like the number one celebrity in that spot.

You were killing it out there. That's why that's when I like started realizing how crazy it was because people were coming up to me asking for my. photo and like basically handing Jared the phone like yeah I'm like this dude isn't kings of Leon like he's a rock star right you sure you don't want a picture with him he's a fucking rock star it was that was very weird moment but yeah you and all your boys were out and we went to I think we went to hockey Tom yeah we got to act yeah never saw you again yeah yeah here we are here we are now now you got a kid you got a kid the life's just different

yeah life's just different dude yeah just living that dream it's crazy We're at 50 minutes. We got to lock this up a little bit. All right. Talk to me about, you were in a car accident. Yeah, I was in a really bad car accident. My senior year of college, like right after I graduated. No shit.

Yeah. Got hit almost like going down the road where you have the head-on type of deal. No divider in the middle in the middle. Got hit on my driver's side at like 70 miles an hour. You said straight on? So it was like I was coming this way. He was coming this way. And then he came across my.

lane and I saw him coming and I hit the gas a little bit so instead of hit me right on he hit me right in the driver's side and then it hit my Jeep off of the street it went into like a snowbank in New Hampshire and it flipped like six times like just kept on rolling and then yeah it's in hospital for a few months and ICU all that good stuff but it was wild crawled out that damn car though like like a savage so much adrenaline though yeah I mean like a die hard would you end up hurting if you're in ICU all internal stuff I I rupture my spleen, broke my ribs, my face, my nose. Yeah, it was just all like mostly internal stuff.

So I ended up losing like 30 or 40 pounds in the hospital. But yeah, that was surreal. I mean, I remember every single second of it. Like I was just holding on as tight as I could. And it was just flipping. Which is the never one thing they say not to do it. Yeah, I was like 10. I did too.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why like all the drunk people, right? Yeah. They didn't have surviving. Yeah. Yeah.

I was just holding on for dear life. And then, like, I stopped. And then I thought I was dreaming. I just started, like, tapping myself. Like, oh, shit. I'm alive. A gentleman rush you? You're just like, holy shit.

Yeah. You think you're cool and then. No, yeah. Crawled out of the window. And then, like, probably two minutes later, just, like, collapse in the middle of the road because all that adrenaline just probably came out. Left away.

Yeah. So did you wake up in the hospital or what? Um, I remember, like, pits and pieces of the ambulance ride, like freaking out and then being in the hospital yeah dude my my brother-in-law's a first responder and those guys those guys are the stuff he says dude they're they're unbelievable yeah he's told me some crazy yeah the couple it's wild man well so so so wild yeah that's crazy social media where can we where can we find you um Sean shan underscore booth 18 at instagram and i think Sean underscore booth on

Twitter is your Twitter game good no actually I've been off it for like Like months. Like ever since I went through that breakup, people are just ruthless. I'm like, I feel like Twitter's, uh, it's hit or miss. Like I like it. But, uh, some people are just ruthless on there. Dude, it's weird. It's terrible, dude.

It's definitely trouble. It's trouble. I'll probably get back on there soon. I do like business stuff on there. I like repost stuff with brands, but I haven't spent too much time, which is also good. I like being off social media a little bit. Yeah. Instagram's fun.

I enjoy that. Do you get a lot of shit talking during the season? Right now. Right now people love me. Well, we talked about having Clay Travis on. Oh, you're so great. You're so this. And then.

Except for when we talked about having Clay Travis on, like I'm seeing all this hate that I didn't even know the background of Clay and Taylor. And then I'm seeing like, dude, who gives a shit? Taylor is such a douchebag. Like, what losers? And I'm just thinking like, I'm just here, man. But that never like, so when people call me like, you're a doucheback, Taylor, it's like, well, like, kind of. You're not wrong. Sometimes it absolutely be a douchebag.

There's no question about it. But, like, the only time it sucks is when, like, you actually play like shit. Because like every weekend If I mess up, I'm exposed, dude. You know? Because Marcus gets hurt. Marcus gets attacked. It's an obvious thing when the left actor messes up or any office a lemon.

And so that's when the people are like, you're so fucking bad. That's what I'm like, damn, that kind of sucks. Yeah. But you just learn to kind of roll with it. But it's also like Gary who's like a 43-year-old man sitting behind his phone who's never played football in his life probably telling you. But he gives you the impression like he sucks. But he gives you the impression like he sucks.

somebody and everyone sees what he said. Like, if your plays out there, like missing a tackle or some shit like that, everybody's like, like, you, what the fuck is Compton doing here? Like, looking like he, yada, yada. And I'm just like, God, man. I hope people are like, looking to see this guy. The things that are the most important is who you are as a person and your character can only be judged by yourself and the people that actually know you.

Yes. So I can't imagine going on something like The Bachelorette where literally your character, your integrity is being, can be manipulated in so many different ways. That one must be. To me, that'd be a harder thing to do. deal with than a weekend playing football. And people are obsessed with your love life. Like obsessed with like, why did this happen?

Why did that happen? Like when we dropped this, why didn't you ask why they broke up? Like it's just like, people are obsessed with that side that it's like, yo, it's none of your business. Yeah, because they think, well, I mean, because they kind of go through the experience with you from like the moment you walk out of that limo and then they have like this crazy connection with you for 12 weeks and they're rooting for you and they feel like they know everything about you because it's a reality TV show and they fall in love with you they fall in love with you

and was it Caitlin yeah he fall in love with you too and then you guys break up in November it's like they're they're now going through yeah yeah exactly that's what it was like yeah that was tougher it was it was uh it was strange not strange but i get it i understand it's also like the most supportive community like bachelor nation is fucking awesome and they support us all like crazy so it's uh anytime uh relationship doesn't work it's like a big shock to the world yeah uh But it's like this was supposed to be the one. Yeah. These were the guys that were going to go with the distance.

Yeah. I think season 11, this was it. Yeah. And people had a tough time with me and Caitlin because we had a ton of fun. Like, I mean, we just had a blast. And so we were able to kind of put all that on social media, which people had fun with. And they kind of connected to that. But, hey, that's life.

That's how it works. Relationships. Are you guys still cool now? Not really cool. I mean, we don't talk at all. Yeah, it's a broken out. It's a breakup. That's like the weirdest thing about a break.

up right is that you're living with somebody you're with somebody for so long and then all of a sudden it feels like you don't even know them anymore it's like a complete like past life where you know because we haven't talked since probably November and it's just wild how life works like that yeah we appreciate you coming on man yeah i appreciate you guys that's that work out later yeah booth camp babies hey guys it's us the jonas brothers i'm joe i'm kevin and i'm nick and guess what we created our own podcast called hey jonas we invented a podcast well we didn't invent it we We just contributed to it out. We're the first people to do podcasts.

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