Bussin' With The Boys - Spencer Rattler and Juice Wells Talk About Transfer Portal, Expectations For Next Year + NFL Possibilities

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

Recorded: March 15th 2023 | In our second episode from our South Carolina trip, Quarterback Spencer Rattler and Wide Receiver Juice Wells sit down with the boys. Both guys transferred into the Gamecock program so we talk about their experience in the transfer portal and why they decided to transfer. Also we touch on what happened in the back half of the season where they were able to beat Tennessee and Clemson. Finally Will and Taylor prepare the guys on what to expect as a rookie in the NFL. Enjoy everyone. 2:04 - Spencer started at Oklahoma and what happened there 3:32 - Juice started JMU and why he transferred 7:03 - Why Spencer came back for his 5th year 9:45 - Spencer's video from high school 11:33 - what sparked that change midseason 13:04 - biggest differences between Oklahoma and South Carolina 14:07 - Juice's experience in the transfer portal 14:47 - what effect does NIL have in the locker room 17:00 - expectation for next season 18:46 - does Spencer have and bad blood towards Oklahoma 19:45 - would you rather 21:03 - what DB Juice respects the most in the SEC 22:01 - strength and weaknesses for both guys 24:26 - Rookie dinners and rookies paying their dues 29:19 - what teams they'd like to got drafted by ---- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ---- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS ChevyFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I don't read good. I had a 1.7 GPA in my junior of high school. Shout out the ACTs for getting me that 29. We made it through. We made it through the whole thing. Welcome to Bustin with the boys, fellas. Or should we start, Taylor? We should start in high school because Spencer is from Arizona.

Went to Pinnacle High School? Did you ever play Cacta Shadows High School or Chapparel High School? I played Chapparel High School. I was actually supposed to go to Chapparel. Really? I grew up in the Firebirds organization. Yeah? And I played Cact to Shattos in basketball.

Didn't grow up with enough money to go to Chapparel? No, I mean, they wanted me to come, but I live like 20 seconds a little. Played from Pinnacle. Yeah. So when I was a sophomore in high school, we, I went to Catch a Shadows, and we played Pinnacle. Cox 7. The cable. Went to Catch the Shadows?

I went to Catch Shadows my first three years. And then I went to Shaperow my senior year. He left them because they suck. Yeah. We actually won a state championship the year we played Pinnacle. We beat them 31 to zero. Okay. You talking about your senior year?

My senior year? My junior year, we were awful. Oh, were you playing your sophomore year? Of course. I was starting nose tackle. And did I ball? Yeah, I think so. Did you?

Sure. Not really. No. actually it was a terrible nose tackle. Well, why did you end up, you were at Oklahoma. You ended up going to Oklahoma out of high school. What made you want to go there and not Michigan? My mom's from Michigan.

So funny you say that. I went to a Michigan camp, my freshman year, met Jim Harbaug and everything. And it clicked, but I just feel like it was too cold up there. I wasn't used to it. Oklahoma at the time, they were pumping out Heisman quarterback. So I was like, hey, let's give this a shot and see how it goes. So that was my decision.

Do you have any unique experiences with Jim Harbaugh? Because I heard his tactics can be a little unique. No, he definitely, you know, he's an interesting guy from what I remember. He always has those khakis on, you know, always had the khakis on. I think he had intense look, yeah, intense look, very serious. Sat down with him probably for five, ten minutes and just talked. And he was just very interesting, very interesting cat, for sure. And talk about Oklahoma.

You set a record, you tied San Bradford's record, eight touchdowns, you led the boys to a Big 12 championship. You were a Heisman candidate going into that final year when you ultimately, you ultimately transferred after getting benched in, I think somewhere early in C, I think against Texas. Yep. And from your perspective, what happened at Oklahoma? You know, it was a bunch of different things. I kind of control what I could control, you know, as a player, as a quarterback,

you're going to get a lot of blame for everything. You know, but we were winning games at the time. I think we were on a 15-game win streak going into 2021 and then everything kind of spiraled out from there on after. And, you know, it just played out how it played out. out, but, you know, I had a good time at Oklahoma. I had a lot of success, had some adversity, but learned a lot for sure. Juice, what about you?

What about your high school career? What led you to South Carolina? He was JMU. Yeah. That boy's, yeah, I feel like the transfer portal played in your favor, right? Like, that's when it was coming out. You're somebody who was absolutely killing it. You were like an All-American.

I was seeing some of the statue at a JMU. Shout out in Virginia, by the way. But, yeah, like, getting to use a transfer portal to your advantage. I feel like the most of the time guys go in the portal. It probably doesn't work out the way, but it seemed like you just needed like an opportunity to go play against like big competition forward to set you up or probably in a post-a-line. I see a lot of-poly close to your mother.

They say, um, uh, but I see like, they'd be like, you know, the transfer portal, bogus, all this other stuff, but I definitely use it to my advantage, you know, I always was like an underdog coming out of high school. Like you said, I had a low GPA coming out of high school, so I was having a hard time. And coming out of high school, I went to Fort Union Military Academy. He was like a, it's a famous one. Everybody heard of it or something like that. But I went there for three months, six months or whatever, no phone, no nothing.

Got me right, though, you know what I'm saying? So I went there, then I went to JMU, and I just went there with a chip on my shoulder. And I knew I didn't belong there, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm like? Then hit the portal. And I told the seniors that when I first got there, I'm like, look, I'm only here for about two years.

I'm gone, you know what I'm saying? So I went there, yeah, what I had to do, and now I'm here. You went to an academy first before GMU? Yeah, because my grades was bad. I was, I didn't. Yes, you weren't eligible to go into college. I had like a one-nine. So the academy was essentially a community college?

No, it was like a prep school. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so we played like Palmetto prep, you know, all these copa state. It was crazy teams we were playing. It was like put together teams who was playing. But I went there for my grades. I went there. I still had a good season there, but I broke my ankle like the second game.

So I didn't really play. You had a good season, but you played one game. I had like four touchdown. Did that what he needed to do. I had like four touchdown. 400 yards. Like, I was going crazy. God, they must have been so happy

when you broke your ankle. Would you make your ankle that second game? You said what? When you broke your ankle that second game? Yeah, yeah. Like, it was like, it wasn't even in the game. It was like practice. Like, we had ECU come to practice.

I'm trying to get an offer. I'll go up for a fade ball. I heard like a crack. I'm like, oh, snap. Like, what's going on? Like, I'm good. It's my first time ever being injured. So I get back in.

I'm like, I'm good. Let's go. I run a drag rock. It crack again. I'm like, yeah, I'm done. I'm crying. but I focused on school, got my grades right, and I was good. You look back or you're like, damn, I wish I took school a little bit more serious?

Definitely, for sure. Like, I was, I never knew what football could take me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I always was just, you know, running around, being bad, you know what I'm saying? Just hanging out, like, you know what I'm saying? But my part's got me right, you know what I'm happy. Just that's not when you go back home, you probably stress to the young ins like, hey. Yeah, I got like eight nephews.

I got eight nephews, so I got to make sure I call them ready day, you know what I'm make sure they, you know, on the right track. I still don't have any of fun and all. That still don't be kids, you know, but when they get a little older age, I'm going to make sure I'll be on the tail. When you say you were running around being bad when you're a kid, now you go back home, like, is there something back of your head like, man, I can't be caught up with maybe some of the same people or something like,

make sure to keep an arm's length? Yeah, for sure. Like, I've rarely gone home. You know, I'm either down here or I'm either, you know, whenever we get a break, I'll go train, go somewhere else like Miami, go train, or broader. It's its own bag of issues. But, you know, they got gold feet down there.

go down there with Goldfeet or Texas or something like that. I even go to Arizona with him sometimes. Just kick it with him. I can't go back home. Spence, why come back for your fifth year? I know you were looking at maybe going to the NFL, like, why come back? Just a lot of stuff left on the table, not just for me, but, you know, juice came back. A lot of guys came back.

So I feel like we didn't start the year how we wanted. If we started the year, great, you know, we might have had a different decision. But the first half of the year was kind of up and down, really from November on, we turned it and we just want to keep that going into this next year. You guys at that we were here for that Tennessee game. And bro, that was unbelievable. You were legit throwing whatever route you wanted, however you wanted to throw it. You were lighten dudes up.

What do you think changed from the beginning of the season? You say in the way I went in the beginning to like those last two games of the year, those last few games of the year where you just really turned it on. I mean, good question. Our mentality really just turned up. We were like, you know what, screw it. Let's go out here and rip it. all over the field, do it we do best, getting, you know, juice his hands, getting our playmaker's

hands. And, you know, that's literally what we did. We went out there with a good game playing through the ball, I think 37 times, which I don't mind. I like throwing the ball a lot. These guys like catching the ball a lot. And yeah, it was just super fun. And it turned out how it turned out. Yeah. Your guys' chemistry definitely got a lot better. Tell us, I would love to hear a time in the season last year where you're pissed, he's not throwing you the ball. I would assume in the first half of the year, it's like, hey, Spence, like, what are we fucking doing here, man? It was like the Georgia game. Georgia game.

Probably the Charlotte game. Like those Charlotte in South Carolina State games, I'm thinking like when we're playing it, I see on the schedule with Charlotte, South Carolina, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm easy 200. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is easy, you know what I'm saying? But I'm going to game.

I'm like, what's going on, bro? Like, why ain't getting the ball? Throw the fade. Throw the fade to me. I'm open. I'm going on. Throw the fade, bro. Just forget it.

But I mean, everything worked out for us, fift. You know what I'm happy we back. You know what I'm saying? We got. whole lot to prove. You know what I can't wait. When he's getting mad at you saying, hey, throw the fade on the sidelines, at one point

in you're like, hey, shut the fuck up. I'm going to throw you the ball. Just relax. There's definitely times where, you know, you want to pop off, but I got respect for him. He got respect for me. I wouldn't say he was going off on me, but, you know, hey, look my way, look my way. But, you know, as a QB, he realizes now we got to go through progressions. We got to do this, that.

You know, our coach is expecting us to do this. And, you know, sometimes he didn't touch the ball. We had a lot of playmakers. But, you know, he's definitely always been, you know, our top. Target and definitely want to give them the Rock more this year. It'll be like, it'll be like, after a touchdown, I'd be like, come on, man, throw me the ball. Like, we just scored, bro. That's your y'all's core touchdown?

Yeah. That's hilarious. You always want them to be selfish. After the Clemson game, I scored, I'm like, throw me the ball. Come on. Stop playing. Like, he's like, bro, just threw you in time. Like, what you're talking about?

That's hilarious. Going back and forth, you always have a video that resurfaces of you in high school. Do you still talk to your, do you talk to any of your, do you talk to any of your, receivers that way. And when you look back at that video, what do you think about what goes through your mind? Because that's a tough video. Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, I was young at the time, 16 years old with all my boys. Like, that's just how we, we were super competitive. I've always been competitive as a kid. And, like, those are still some of my best friends to this day that we would talk smack to. Same receiver? Same. Receivers, quarterback. I mean, all them guys I still stay in

contact with. And, you know, at the time, you're a little confident, little cocky. And you might be different. When I look back at it, I'm like, man, I just want to, what I'm saying? I'm just, what was I doing? But hey, I was young. I learned. And yeah, like I said, I'm still best friends with some of those guys, but yeah, I'm not popping off on him like that because he might punch me in the mouth.

Yeah, I've seen it. They made a huge thing with you first side. I'm not going to lie. I really didn't, like, if you were a competitor, you understand. You're a football player. You're just talking, you know what I'm saying? Like, as long as people ain't in their feelings and everybody crying and all, like, you're good. You know what I'm saying?

I don't know. I don't know, man. Hey, you drop a couple of balls and then he starts yelling. You like that. Bro, you drop four or five passes in a row. He tells you that. I feel like he's going to get it. Dude, I've had situations for like,

that's not going to happen. We ain't, we need you. I'm like, bro, shut the fuck up. I need you to leave me alone. Because you're in your head. Like, damn, I'm fucked up. And then they want to come and talk to you about. Like, if I miss a block,

Derek Henry would be like, hey, what happened there? Wait, bro, you know what the fuck happened there. Yeah. Obviously, I missed the block. Relax. That's not the energy. That's not the energy. Yeah, I need from you right now, bro.

Yes. It, dude, it's a fucking part of the game. It's definitely part of the game, dude. When you say something changed, like, you guys got loose towards the back half of the season, like, what sparked that change for you guys? Because it is very easy playing football to think, like, you're at a SEC school. You're supposed to win. You're extremely highly rated.

Obviously, the grades, we had a hard time there. But now you're, like, you had more receiving yards than the other two receivers combined. All-American candidate. All-American candidate. like what how do you compartmentalize the stress factor and trying to be perfect and then letting it loose? It was really, Zeb Nolan,

he played quarterback here. He was like, he was like a GA. And last year, or two years ago he had come in and had to play. It was like a six or seventh year. And he was like our, you know,

QB analyst last year helped out a little bit. He just told me, go out there and have conviction with every single throw. You know, my dad's calling me every five times a day. Hey, do this, do that, do that.

Always backing me up. But really, I just cut it loose and played like it was high school again. Just have fun with it. Get it to the guys like this and he'll make plays. And that shit was fun, man. Going on from November on, that was a great feeling. And we're trying to emulate that every single game this upcoming year.

You probably had to feel good too. Like, you know, a lot of people, when you were playing really well late in the year, people like, okay, this is Spencer Radler of old. Like the one that Oklahoma recruited in was doing well before everything had went down at Oklahoma. So I'm sure that was, I'm sure it was good being able to do that. And then start having fun with some of the. boys and just cutting it loose. Definitely. Definitely. Just, I don't like when people say, oh, that's the old

Spence. Right. Because, you know, that part of my game never left. Just had to get used to a different league, new team, new system, new coaches, and it just clicked at the right time, I guess. What were the biggest differences for you, like being in the play at Oklahoma than coming here to the SEC? Just the different type of offense is like we went, it wasn't pro-style at all at Oklahoma. It was more like spread. You know, you got a two-word play call. Yeah. And you're going one, two, three, four. all peer progression reads. You come here and it's like,

why skip, the gun bunch left, past 17, Buster Nudge, Z. Spear, X-Pylon alert. You know, NFL type plays. It's where you got to tag everything. And, you know,

it took me a minute just to get that stuff down with the progression stuff. But once we got it down and kind of, not simplified, but did what we did best, that's when we cut it loose towards the end.

Was there a mental battle in all of that, like when you did transfer over and leave Oklahoma and everything else? For me, it was refreshing. I had a fresh feeling. I was ready to start somewhere knew with like coach beamer you know he was with me at oh you so i already knew him um so it was a it was a

you know fresh feeling coming in you know and i just wanted to come and try to help south carolina get back on the map and uh you know guys like this came in and you know i think we think we back on the map a little bit we still got some ways to go but we we want to come up just from when you were at jm u and you enter the transfer portal like what like what in your head made you say okay i need to utilize this new resource that the college football has is like go to go to the portal and figure out where you want to go and like how to you want to go and like How many offers did you have? I had about, I think, 12, you know what I'm saying, somewhere right now.

But what really stood up to me, I was like, you know, I got something to prove, you know, I want to see what God got in store for me, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, why not take it to the furthest extent? You know, why not go to the SEC and, you know, show scouts and, you know, other people that I can do it, you know what I'm saying? So I did that. And, yeah, I don't know what else was going to do. You know, I feel. No, I feel you.

Hey, the NIL money. Does that have any effect on the locker room? Do guys compare stuff? I'm curious because, you know, back when we play, like we just had a- As you guys know, you just get your scholarship check. Now guys can make money, especially yourself. You're coming back.

You're a quarterback. Like, is there a vibe at all in the locker? And I'm not saying, like, in a negative way, but has the NIL world kind of changed the way guys can, I guess, operate? I don't know what the question is, but. I mean, I feel like within a team. That's solid.

Within the team, I feel like we're all super close. Nobody talks about dollar amounts, nothing like that. I mean, our locker room's tight. You know, we talk about being the closest team in the country. You know, we kind of focus on that every day. We don't talk about that stuff. But, you know, obviously, people know, and we obviously, if we get an NIO deal, we'll try to help others as well on a squad because, you know.

Yeah. You guys get, you guys trip each other? Come on now. Like, if Spence comes in, like, oh, Spence, I saw the. Oh, no. Me and him might be like, what you got coming in? He got some stuff coming in. that's, he might want to talk about, but

he got the track coming in. I got a new track hawk coming in. You got a new what? Track Hawk. Track Hawk. Yeah, like a crazy Jeep. Oh, no shit? Yeah, my dog.

Wolfwell. My dog, Herrm going to give me right. Shout out to her. You know, he's going to give me right. I'm saying. I saw y'all whenever I get it, he might take a picture. Yeah, send a picture, dude. And I heard you got some nice wheels, too.

Some wheels that dudes in the league have. Pretty good, you know? I mean, I don't want to say it a loud G-wagon, but yeah, he's got something. I got the G wagon. I heard G wagon. Maybe down the road, but I got the little coop right now, B450. Shout out to Dyer dealership.

Yeah, in college I had a 50-cc-moped. We only do Chevy. We only do Chevy. I had a 50-ccec-moped and a 1984 Cadillac DeVille. It had no power to point B though. Yeah, we did all right. Yeah, we did all right in the process. Yeah, we got motivated for sure.

Man. How long we went with them? I know my man, juice is hungry. We have 15 minutes right now. We have five more than we're going to know he's hangary. He's hangary right now? You want us to get you something? I'm good.

I'm sorry. I'm good. You're an all-American. It was great. What do you? Oh, good. So you guys say like you want to keep building off last year and keep the same momentum

you did. Like, what is the expectation for the Cox this year? I don't really put no expectation on it. You know what I'm saying? We're just going to bar. You know, it ain't really too much to it. You know,

we're going to go out there with the momentum we got, you know, and just, who feel like, yeah, I feel like if we put expectations on it, They can't get a target on your back. Yeah, you know, what you want to do in this league, you know, have teams circling, you know, your name every week.

It can happen. Hey, we're ready for whatever. Whatever. How about this one, though? Is South Carolina the team to beat in South Carolina? So, definitely. So. That was a good question.

Now, you got the last, what was it when we were down there counting on the trophy? Last eight games, the boy, Clemson's seven and nine. Climson's seven and one, but you all of all. But South Carolina is the last game. Yeah. You only as good is your last. Basketball, too, they just knocked them. just knocked them out too.

So, they can't... South Carolina just knocked off Clemson? I think so. Yeah. Love that. Baseball. Women's basketball. Definitely respect both ways, but this year we did our thing.

Not in a rivalry, dude. That's not how it is. Yeah, you can talk a little track. You could be like, yes. At Michigan, we play Michigan State. We call them our little brother. I went one in three against Michigan State. I still called them my little brother.

Got to, huh? Keep that confidence. I disrespect them as much as possible. Ohio State. What was your record versus them? One and three? One and three? Yep.

Basically, any big 10 team, it was probably one and three. beat Ohio State? Yeah. 2012. They stormed the field. 2012. Who was the quarterback

for Ohio State that year? Braxton Miller probably. Braxton Miller. He was dirty. Ohio State is the kings of having good quarterbacks in college that don't pan out in the NFL.

Yeah. Well, they can claim that some claim Joe Burrow. No, you can't do. Joe Burrow. You know how that is. They do. They do.

When you're a first round pick, are they going to claim you at Oklahoma? I hope not. They will. You know they will. Do you have any bad blood towards Oklahoma? Do you feel a certain way? Man.

It's okay to feel that way. You know, the situation happened, how it happened. You know, obviously, I was salty about it. You know, I'm a competitor. I want to be out there playing. And we were winning games, like I said. So, like, we were undefeated at the time where I got bench. So I'm like, damn.

But, hey, man, you live and you learn. God send me here for a reason. That's how I look at it. All these questions are like, you know, when people are telling you about the NFL and everything, like that all the coaches everywhere, like, that's going to be such a focus. Definitely.

when you're going to that draft process. Yeah, the whole why did you transfer thing? Why did this happen? Yeah, a lot of that stuff. Buddy, I had so many interviews at the combine. It was ridiculous. I mean, I asked you a hypothetical. It was a degenerate in college.

I was. Absolutely. I did a lot of cocaine. I mean, I went fucking hard, dude. My nose was a vacuum. It's behind me. It's behind me. It was super late.

Yeah, I'm a two-time All-American. On that. Would you rather both be first round picks or one of you be a second round pick and both play in the same team when you're in the NFL? Good question. They came out of nowhere. I didn't even know that one.

Bro, that was just, I just had that at the bag. I'm going to hit him with this cocaine comment and then come out with some heat, dude. I might have to see you on a different team, just. I had goals before I gave it. First round is it? First round is the goal for sure.

Absolutely. Always got to be. You know, we can probably trade or something like that. Yeah. That'd be cool. like that. Like they're the GMs. We'll probably trade or something.

Probably trade for somebody. So you would not be a second round pick for your boy to throw to him? You got to get, bro, we put in some way. That's my goal. If it can turn out like Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase,

but I think Jamar came out the year after Joe left. Yeah. Had to play them dudes. So this is Mar Chase. This is my Jamar Chase. Kind of looks like him too. Kind of does. Kind of does.

Kind of does it. Kind of does it kind of do. Kind of plays the same. Yeah. I definitely look up to him, though, for sure. Yeah. I try to, you know,

you just look gaming all that so yeah is that the number one guy you're trying to emulate so rookie to year you know 1800 yards at ls you don't babysit that thing now get it up close oh my bad you know 1800 yards you got that low volume voice 18 hundred yards you know I'm trying to me and he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's got kind of got the same game so who's the uh who do you respect the most as a corner in in the cc none of him mentality right here, man. Respect nobody.

I go out there to kill, you know what I'm saying? If I feel like I got, like, respect for anybody or something like that, then I feel like it's going to, like, you know, throw me off my game, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm here to get money just like here. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, respect. When we in them lines, I can be playing my blood, brother, whoever it is, you're going to get this work.

Yeah. Hey, that fired me to fuck up. That fired me the fuck up. I'm telling you, like, when I first came here, like, I was, I was talking shit. Like, I'm here, like, I'm here, like, I'm here to play, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I think that just come from, you know, just, you know, coming up, I'm my my only son, you know what I'm saying?

I got seven sisters. Like, it's just like I always felt like I had something to prove, you know what I'm saying? And then, like, I was always like an underdog too, you know what I'm saying? Like, not being recruited, all this stuff. So it didn't really know respect between them, between them lines, you know what I'm here to feed my family and get paid, you know, so get all that. If you were sitting in a room at the combine with coaches, what would you tell them is your best quality as a receiver?

A solid brother. I am in the slow state. You know, is, I think just my physicality. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're not really going to get your hands on me. You know, if you is, I'm going to be physical back. You know, I can block. You know, I can catch the ball. I got good hands, you know, and I can win that 50-50 ball.

For each of you. Yeah, go ahead. Same question. As a quarterback. Best quality. I would say, I feel like I make guys around me better. I can extend the play. And I feel like,

like I'm very accurate. You know, I definitely want to improve on everything, but I feel like I'm very accurate and could definitely extend plays and do things like that. Strong arm, too. Strong arm, too. If you were to flip. The boys hyping boys, you got to. That's what we're all about. I'm going to bring the vibes down. If you had to tell them your biggest weakness, what would it be? I would say trusting my arm too much at sometimes, you know, I had more interceptions than I wanted last year. And that's just simply based off trying to do too much, trying to trust my arm too much. I'll try to throw off balance, you know, where usually I could make that throw, you know,

but these dudes are good in this league. You got good defenses every week, so those guys are going to make plays, but yeah, I'd say trust in my arm too much at times. Juice. I think. I don't know. It's going to be a question for sure. Yeah, I know. I don't really too much focus on my weakness, you know what I don't know. If a coach is being critical to you, when you sit in this in a wide receiver room, the coach is like, these are the things you need to work on, whether you see it as a weakness or not. What are those things? Oh, see, now, like, if he said I need to work on those, I'll definitely, you know, go work on it.

You know what I'm saying? But I think the way I see, like, defense is and stuff like that. You know, I can see cover two, cover three, all that type stuff. But, like, if the DB give me different leverages, I try to, like, stem at them a different way when I can just be vertical off the ball, stuff like that, you know, but I don't know. Probably, you know, getting the playbook a little fast. I don't know. I don't focus on the week

too much You know what I'm saying Yeah When you are a textbook Wide receiver Textbook wide receiver And that's a compliment By the way

Appreciate that Like you want dudes like that We didn't have guys like that And we got AJ Brown Yeah And A J. Brown Legit was disrespecting guys As a rookie

Yeah To the point where you're like Who the fuck is this guy And he got a thousand yards I don't know I'll be seeing stuff By like You know

Rookies and all I'm taking them out of dinner I've seen one thing Jaylon Ramsey said Like he had like a He had like a Like a

I guess like a little Men you already made like guys like I'm not going there and spending 60K on the dinner you know what I'm saying you're gonna spend that money I'm gonna do it but I'm definitely gonna have a menu though you know what I'm saying like posture like that already yeah yeah yeah yeah the vet the vet the vet the vet I was undrafted so all my signing bonus was like $2,500 after taxes and so they were talking about they hey comp you you know you got to pay for dinner and I'm literally like sweating like Fletch London Fletcher was my vet I was like hey Fletch man like do I really have to pay for dinner like legit, man. He's like, come, man. We're not fucking making you pay for dinner, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we would do that. Like, we would take the rookies out,

and then we would, like, pretend to get, like, Louis shots for everybody. We would just get them a Louis shot, and then we'd have them bring out, like, a fake bill for, like, $50,000, $60,000. What'd you have to spend? $20,000. Oh, your rookie dinner?

Yeah, but it's really not, if you guys are first round picks, you're going to be all right. Yeah, you were first round. Yeah, I'm saying, like, the thing that's really frustrating is, especially for, like, for you, because you're going to be in a really small room.

But you're going to sit there and you be like, hey, we want X, Y, and Z on Saturdays. We want you to go get us Krispy Kreme donuts and make sure it's in the meeting room on Saturday morning. And Saturday's low-key, the only day you really get to sleep in. What if you don't do it? That's a fine. A fine? A fine. You have levels of fines.

Just the vets in the room, like, you know, say you're late. There's a sexy fine. There's an ugly fine. Your name gets said in a meeting. Yeah. If you get highlighted, if you're on their Instagram, it's a fine. Like $25, $50. It all depends.

It varies from team to team. Yeah. Wow. Like the Titans. Like, if he goes high, though, it won't just be the quarterback room. They're going to make him take the offense. Right. O-line.

Yeah. All right. Take the boys out for sure. Or buy the O-Line Christmas presents. Yeah. Make sure they're good presents because I've had good ones and I've had shitty ones. What's the best present you got from a QB? Marcus got us suits one year.

Like, we were at dinner at Kane Prime in Nashville. And some suit guy came in measured us at dinner and got us all suits. Hey, iPhones. Remember that? Yeah, he got us. Marcus took him out to dinner one time. I heard Rolex. I think Lamar Jackson got his O-line all Rolexes.

Oh, damn. That's crazy. That's crazy. Russell Wilson got his boys Amazon stock. Wow. Like $50,000 in Amazon stock or something crazy like that. That's probably the best thing right there. Get them boys.

You know you for 20 minutes. That's going to be something you're going to struggle with. It's like you're going to have to carry pads off the field. You're going to have to. There's some. So I'm telling you, though, like what if you bawling, though? Like, if you're balling, listen, if you ball. This is before. This is pre.

This is OTAs. This is the first couple weeks of the year. If you walk in and your wide receiver won and you're balling everybody, like, you can put your shit out there and be like, hey, I'm not doing this shit no more. But there are some things like, it's just like just the right of passage that you have to do certain things. Some rooms are worse than others. Wide receivers are very inconsistent. Well, don't, you know, there are stories where guys don't do stuff.

Yeah. You know what I mean? They posture up and they don't do stuff. I guess we're trying to like say, like, don't be that fucking. It's not that big of it. No, it's not that big of a deal. The thing is, like... I just be trying to, like, you know, be extra.

You know what I'm saying? Like, why are you trying to be extra for? Just chill. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying? Yeah. They're not trying you, bro. So he had to go through that, too.

Yeah, but AJ was one of those things that didn't do shit. He was like, I'm not doing this. And AJ was also our best receiver by far. He's the only guy we threw the ball to. He's built like a transformer. He is really built like that. Like anybody. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. It was awesome his first couple of years, man. It's like when dudes are just ready to fight off the jump It's like, okay, it's not that serious, but fuck, man. Like, Ole Miss receivers was huge, him and Dika. Yeah, yeah. But the thing that bugged me the most?

The thing that bugged me the most was like that's Saturday. Because, like, that's really the only day you get to sleep. And that and Friday, you get to be in there by like 8 o'clock. But Saturday, you don't be in there to like 9, 10 o'clock sometimes. You're like, oh, I'm going to get the sleep. That you run in errands and all the time. And then before the flight, like... It'll be multiple receivers, so...

Yeah. Before the flight, it'll be like noon. And the flight takes off at 2.45. And they're like, all right, you have to take everybody's like what they want from Wing Stop or like Sub Boy or something like that. And you have to go and get it. Look at us old heads just talking. For no reason. Like, before you are forcing it on them?

Right. Like legit though. I think if you do the one big thing and then you'll all the like small Saturday petty stuff like that'll be for the other guys. If you went in there and got all the wide receivers gifts right away like nice ones, don't get them Rolex's. But I get them all iPads. Yeah, that's smooth. That's smooth. Get them like that and be like, boys, I must let you know it's not going to go the way you think it is during the season.

but this is for y'all. Just know that I love you. That's a nice little. I'm giving myself for it. I was like, that's a good-ass idea. I'm going to use that for you. That's for you, dude. You should take that.

If you guys could go to, we'll wrap it up in a second because I know we're at 28 minutes right now. But regardless, because I didn't want to go to the Titans. I did not care to go to the Titans. Growing up, where did you guys want to play in the NFL?

Well, growing up, I wanted to play for Green Bay, but now I want to go play like in Miami or like Texas or something like that. Somewhere warm. Yeah, somewhere warm. Texas. Houston or Dallas.

Yeah, I feel you. Houston or Dallas. I see you. I'll go Dallas because I... You do not want to go to Houston, my friend. You do not want to go there. Yeah, maybe, you know. When you grow up and you literally, like,

even if you're not a Cowboys fan, what if you were a Redskins fan growing up? Like, you would still look at the star on the helmet and be like, fuck. Oh, yeah. I've heard... Cowboys were that team going up. I've heard guys go to the Cowboys

and like, this is really what I thought the NFL was growing up. Like, all... Like, anytime a new iPhone comes out, it's on your locker. PS5 comes out, it's on your locker. The deals are crazy. Yeah. Because you go to some places and you don't get paid nothing besides what your salary is.

That's like the highest earning team, right? Cowboys, America's team. Yeah. Yeah. How about you? For me, my dad was a Cowboys fan coming up. So I said, hey, if you can go to America's team, might as well. But kind of like him, like anywhere in Florida would be great.

Maybe the Cardinals, but Kyler's kind of locked in there. Somewhere warm. Chill. Chill. Yeah. If you went back to Arizona. would be lit. Especially the way people are viewing

Collar Murray right now. Yeah. Like, there's nothing against them. I'll speak for you. No, no. I'll love for Kyler for sure. The season doesn't go the way they want it to again.

They try to figure out a way to get out of it. They pull a Russell Wilson type thing. They get the bag. They send him somewhere else. And everyone's saying bring the prodigal son home. That'd be ideal. That'd be ideal. Bring the prodigal son home.

Dude, if I... You're going to Buffalo. Can't do it, bro. Ain't no question about that. You're going to Buffalo or Cleveland. He'll be in Detroit. Bill's will make it all the way again and come up short. Stefan Diggs will be pissed. He'll get out. They're going to fucking get juice.

Yeah, they're going to get fucking juice. You're going to be in Buffalo cold as fuck. They're just keeping contact with your boys in high school? What's up? You still keeping contact with your boys in high school? Yeah, don't go to Arizona. That should get you in trouble. With all your homies and all that money in Old Town Scottsdale? Man. Yeah. It's a dangerous Where did y'all? Where did you go in Old Town? Everywhere. Where did you guys go? Oh, we didn't really, you went out more than I did. What are you talking about Super Bowl week? Where did we go? It was like that Irish, that Irish, that Irish bar. Paddies? Oh, patties. Yeah. That's like in Tempe. No, that's an old town, right?

Yeah, I think that's an old town. Yeah, obviously the bar still bar. But it wasn't, we didn't, it wasn't like that. Yeah, we didn't get it. No, I'm not crazy like that. Yeah. Do you ever go up to Cape Creek? Yeah, I used to play basketball up there a lot. Really? Yeah, a lot back in. You go up to Buffalo chip. That's a spot. Yeah, where they got the Western. What was that? Right of the bull. That's not really my... JP, when he scores a touchdown next year,

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