Bussin' With The Boys - Spring Tour: Tez Johnson Opens Up About His Relationship W/ Bo Nix + Dillon Gabriel Talks How He Landed At Oregon

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

In this episode from our 2024 Bussin' Spring Tour Will sits down with Oregon standouts, Tez Johnson and quarterback Dillon Gabriel. Tez talks about what drew him to the Nix family and how impactful of a role they played in his life. We also learn that Tez didn't even need to take visit to Oregon to commit to Dan Lanning and his staff. Lastly, Tez gets into the benefits of NIL and how he is the DRIPPIEST player in all of college football. Next, Dillon Gabriel joins the pod and dives into everything from asking Marcus Mariota to wear #8 to decommitting from Army, ending up at UCF, almost going to UCLA, transferring to Oklahoma, and then settling in at Oregon. Towards the end of the pod, Dillon becomes the interviewer and picks Will's brain about how to take care of your body, prioritize your time between relationships and football, and what it is like transitioning out of the NFL. These two are absolute studs who will tear it up in the 2024 college football season. 0:00 Intro 2:12 TEZ JOHNSON INTERVIEW STARTS 2:52 How the Nix family changed his life 7:18 Friendship with Bo Nix 11:15 How he ended up at Troy 15:00 Entering the transfer portal 19:00 Committing to Oregon w/o visiting 23:00 Tez has the MOST swag in college football 27:00 Comparing Dillon Gabriel to Bo Nix 31:00 Favorite NIL purchase 32:15 Favorite part about playing for Dan Lanning 35:32 DILLON GABRIEL INTERVIEW STARTS 36:09 Asking Marcus Mariota for permission to wear number 8 37:18 Dillon's INSANE recruiting journey 41:08 Dealing w/ injury AND going to the transfer portal 44:30 How Dillon ended up at Oregon 49:20 Lessons learned from the Transfer Portal 53:40 Favorite part about playing for Dan Lanning 55:00 Tez Johnson doesn't understand DRIP 57:00 Dillon's favorite NIL purchase 1:02:32 Dillon asks Will for life advice 1:11:30 Handling the pressures of money and friends 1:23:00 Dillon's idea to reshape college footballFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Enjoy these episodes. Tess Johnson, welcome to Bustin with the Boys. We are stoked to have you on. I feel like you have had such a unique journey getting to this point. Like I read and saw that you were adopted by the Nick's family. You were, what, 15 years old? Yeah, I was 15 going on.

16, it was, what, April 23rd? Don't be scared to put that thing close to the lives now. April 23rd. Oh, damn, you got to... So that's when the day I got adopted. Talk about getting to that point at 15 and being taken in by Coach Nix and their family. Because I was reading some things

Like I saw your mother have quotes in there And everything else But I would love to learn more about You know, how you got there It was a complete change for me It was a different journey As we all know Because being a black kid

Just moving into a white house And it was like You had to learn different ways Of how to live life I was more Like I was more like I won't say on my own

But I was more doing whatever I wanted like defiant as a kid. And they taught me rules that you, like, you got to obey some rules to get what you need to be. And you have to do the right things to be well in order to get what you need to get to. And my biological mom loved them to death. Like, she knows that they helped me a lot. And she's, she's always been supportive of what they have done and how they've changed and impacted my life. It was kind of the Knicks family taking some.

stressed off my mom's shoulders and every day she, she prays and every day that, like, they continue to do that and make me a better man like I am today. Was it something that you were resistive to at first? I wasn't, like, resistant because I remember walking into the house and it was eating at the dinner table. And, like, me, my brother's, like, we always take the plate and go to the room. And literally, you know, like, I always should have, like, dreams, like, of eating at the dinner table.

And we did some nights, but it wasn't, like, everybody else was just take their plate to the room and play the game or whatnot. But they was eating at the dental table. I was like, okay, I don't want to leave. Like, they eat at the dinner table. Okay, I want to stay. So that was, I never told them that. I never, like, showed it.

Because I was still, I was scared to death. As soon as I walked in the house, I was scared of death. It was me and everybody's eyes on me. Now, I'm like, all right, okay. Like, what I'm going to do? And I was just spooked the whole time I was spooked. Were you, like, before that, were you around, like, wrong groups of people?

Are you, like, getting into trouble? Yeah, I was getting into trouble around the room. people. I was always getting suspended from school. I used to never, like, come home. I used to just end up showing back to school the next day just because, like, football. I was always good at football. I was actually just getting, becoming better at football. And I knew that was just a way I can cope with all the problems at home or, like, just to get my mind off everything. Football was my passion and the way I can just cope with a lot of stuff. So I used to never go home. And I just just be out with their own people and just I knew the next day how to get to school,

whether I walked or whether I rode with somebody. But I was always at school the next day and just, like, there for football. Like, I couldn't miss football. It was like a – like, my dad, he made it so strict of, like, you can't miss football, like, you have to do this. Like, footballers that had, like, a kind of a structure over my life to where, like, I know, like, I can't miss this or I can't play. Like, so that's pretty much what it was.

And you think, too, like, if you're in, like, the wrong crowds or you're getting into trouble or anything like that, you would, I would almost assume that you almost wouldn't have had the mentality of, okay, there's a dinner table, I want to stay here, I want to be here, like, knowing that this is the right thing for you. Do you feel like you, even, even though you're hanging around wrong, like, wrong groups and in the wrong situations, do you feel like you were always somebody that kind of was, like, sitting back and seeing, like, you know, whether it's showing up to school the next day or being like, I don't necessarily want to be a part of this. I'm just kind of like, this is just my association. That's what I was always thinking. Like, they'll go do some bad stuff, and I knew it was bad, but sometimes I can just get, like, pulled into it just because I'm around the wrong people. And I knew it was the wrong thing to do, but I just did it just because of, like, that's all I knew at the time. Yeah.

I always used to be like, oh, no, like, this can give me a trouble for football. I can't play. But I still used to do it, and I used to get away with it. And until that last time, I didn't get away with anything. So I just dealt with that for like a year. Are you able to talk about the last time? I prefer not to talk about it. Yeah, that's fine.

But it was just like I can tell you like the situation, definitely I'm happy I made it when I was young and now that I'm older. It makes me more careful about every decision I make, whether that's buying food at the store, whether that's going someplace. Like just to get food, like it makes me think three times before I do anything. Yeah.

So. You're in Bo's relationship. Talk about that. When you move into the house, you guys obviously went a state title together. So standing, all right, stand with Bo was, Bo was always serious. Still is serious to this day. Like, he was the kid in high school like nobody wanted to talk to.

Like, he was scary. He was like my dad. Oh, for real? Like, seriously. Like, he was always, like, in school. He's doing his homework. He's at baseball or he's at football. Like, he was already a college student in high school.

Like he was... Just a pro at a young age. Like, pro at a young age. And you could just tell, like, kudos to my dad and my parents. Like, my parents, like, they raised him to be this, this well kid. And everybody knows. Like, he was a baby. He was bad.

Like, that's how he grew up. Like, he was a hard-headed kid. But as he got older, you can just tell, like, he was raised to be, all right, you got to be a pro at everything you do. You have to do this. And me, I'm looking at that at a young age. Now, when I moved in with him, I'm like, okay, if he can do it, I can do it. Like, you know?

Like, I was trying to follow on his footsteps, but it was at a different position. But before he got there, I was at quarterback. So I moved to DB. And you look at them highlights. I was a little, I could tackle a little bit. He was nice. But, no, seriousness, I was the receiver scared to death. And, like, the stuff he used to do and used to just tell me, I just always believed.

And I knew I couldn't drop a pass from him. Like, if I dropped a pass from him, I feel like I let everybody down. especially him because he was just so, like I said, he was just so top tier in high school. Like, he was this guy, he was the number one quarterback. He was Mr. Football. Like, he had all sorts of records. But in the back of my head, I'm like, okay, I can do that too. Like, what if I get in that picture and break a record or something like that?

But my first game, I go out there against Hoover High School. We play George Pickens and everybody to know. Like, George. The two-day school. Oh, my goodness. At Hoover, like, he was a man amongst boys. I didn't watch George Pickens do some. stuff in high school. And like it was, it was crazy. So we go out there and play them on ESPN for the,

this is my very first game. I'm starting. I'm 130. It's your first game. First game of high school, like actually planning on TV. Like ESPN, we planned at the Hoover Matt where they played a college world series. Like, like, I'm in the game and I'm 1 30 soaking wet and I'm, I'm bawling. Like, I'm out there bawling. I was the first touchdown for like the whole four, the whole game with the first touchdown until like the end they took out of their good players out. We got beat 55-14. But we got to beat back. Especially dog the mother, you know.

I'm bawling. I had like 12 catches. I had like 112 yards in a touchdown for like the whole game. And right then there, I knew, okay, I can play. Like, I can play a little bit. I had a little confidence. But I was still timid and scared. I didn't know the game.

I was just running out there, running routes, playing and catching. They used to tell me, like in high school, my dad used to call plays like menu 9 T-whip or T-D because I didn't understand the concepts at the time. But Bo and my dad took the pun himself. Like, when Bo left, my dad and my little brother, Caleb, worked with me more in learning plays

and just being able to understand, like, where you need to be. And it was no more. And why you need to be there. Yeah, why I need to be there. And, like, it was no more a T-whip or T-Dig or T-corner. It was like, man, you're not in H-Post. All right, no, I know. Like, I'm the age now.

I'm the post guy. I'm going to take the top off the defense now. Like, I knew that. And, like, and that helped me so. so much, like, in the long run, and now that I can see everything, everything moves slow for me now. And, like, high school was, I feel like high school, we was the 6A, but the coaches we had was college coaches. Like, my dad was, like, strict, hard nose still is, like, hard nose, like, you can have to do it

this way or you cannot play. Like, and you have to buy in, and I bought in and has been doing me just this whole time. Yeah, man. Talk about, uh, because you're a recruits. journey is obviously different to Bose. Bowes goes Auburn for four years. You start off and go to Troy. Talk about your recruiting journey and getting to Troy.

Were you tight that you weren't more recruited coming out of high school? No, I was actually, I kind of like knew, like towards the end of my senior year, like, all right, I'm a small guy, but like I can play. Like I knew colleges was not going to take chances on me. And Tennessee almost took a chance on me. Kentucky almost took a chance on me. Damn, Jack. He's a Tennessee guy.

He's a Tennessee guy. I can't remember the coach. Was it Stoops or something? Or that's Kentucky. That's Kentucky. That's Kentucky. What year was this? 2020.

Who's that coach 2020? Pruitt. Pruitt. It was Pruitt. It was Jeremy Pruitt. And we was on the phone and we was at Lee Levin in Tennessee. And we got on the phone with him. He was just asking, can I do punt returns or whatnot?

He didn't take me. So I went to a camp in Kentucky with my coach, coach hat. and they offered me at Kentucky and they pulled it at the last second. Is it because somebody else committed there? Somebody else committed there before me and I wanted to commit. And I remember in the car, I was like,

Dad, I just want to wait. My dad was like, you have to pick somewhere to go. It's up to you. Like, you can make your own choice, but you had to pick somewhere to go. And I knew Coach Lindsay very well. Like, Coach Lindsay, he was at Auburn for the first time. Like, when I knew him, he was at Arbor.

And he was on the Gus Mileson. And he went to Troy. And I was like, okay, he called me one day. He was like, what are you doing? I was like, Coach, I'm eating dinner. Like, I'm just eating dinner with my family. He was like, go ahead and commit and come here and just ball out. I hung up the phone and I committed.

Like, that's how well I knew Coach Lindsay. And he was an empty set and I got there in my freshman year. And he had a guy by the name of Rusty Whit in the weight room. And he literally, Rusty Whit put the foundation of me like for a strength. Like, people look at me now and like I'm little, but you go into the weight room and I'm squatting 500 or I'm dead lifting You put 500

I can put 4 or 5 on the bar I over exaggerate I can put 4 or 5 For a rep so And I can clean 295 Okay I'm dead serious you guys I believe you I believe you I would think you're just going to lie Like I'm like I'm like

He put the foundation for his strength on me He's letting motherfuckers know Like I say hey anybody listen I just swap 500 I'm clean the 295 Like hey don't get it twisted I can do it I can do something in the wayroom. It's just like, and when I entered college and Boe went to Arbor.

I wouldn't necessarily like thinking like, okay, I'm going to meet back up with him again. My always thought process was, I'm going to Troy and I'm going to show everybody, like, I was supposed to be at a big college. And my dad supported me, like, close to my dad. He kept me in a state mentally to where, like, I've never went to like a shell and like realize do I belong. Like, I went in there confident as a freshman thinking, like, I'm a senior. Like, this is my spot. This is where I put it on.

This is where I stay. And he, like, gosh, he just made me so much better. Like, he didn't know. He don't know how. Never let you feed into your doubts. Like, you know, like, because not saying it wasn't doubts there, but he took my mind completely away from it. Like, I went there and I was behind Kalen Geiger and a guy named Trey.

I forgot his last name. but they was really good Kalinga Gaggy transferred to Texas Tech and I got the opportunity to play and ever since then the ball started coming to me and like the quarterback knew like I'm the type of guy like I'm going to know my quarterback

before they learned out who I am like if he if his arm is like not big as what they're supposed to be I'm not going to run my fat is on the deep ball because it's going to be on the throne so I'm going to make it look like it's on the money and catch it over my shoulder and literally they know like those little things I took pride in like I don't care who the

quarterback is and like who you was like that's that's just me I'm gonna know you before you know me you're gonna know I can run a route you're gonna know that I can catch a football because that's my job that's what I'm supposed to do but like it's the little things for me for a quarterback did you did you always think about using Troy to get to the next thing uh kind of it's probably it's probably yes and no and maybe even the coaches that Troy would think the same thing. Like, I feel like when I talk to coaches that I know now that I might have, you know, had it in Nebraska that are out of smaller school and the way that they recruit, they'll be like, hey, come here for a couple years. You can now hit the portal. Like,

just use us to get to the next thing. Like, it wasn't necessarily that. I didn't know about PFF throughout my whole college career until that, like that last two years of Troy. Like, I didn't know about any of that stuff. Like, they used to be like, PFF, hey, Lou, you rank number one or you, you number two behind Marvin Harrison? I'm like, bro, what is that? Like, what is PFF? They were like, that's player football focus. Like, like, you don't know. know what that is. I'm like, no. I never really, like, I'm not into the, like, media and, like, just, excuse me, like, going out there and just, like, looking to me, like, what I'm at, where am I ranked? Like, on a five, hold, let's try to get them more. No, I wasn't, I was just

out there playing. And literally, no, like, I was at Troy with Oregon gloves on. Like, like, I got a picture with me with Oregon gloves on in a Troy uniform. Like, that's how bad I loved Oregon. Like, I wanted to go to Oregon this whole time, like, throughout my whole life. know I'm an Oregon fan. Like my family, my oldest brother, like my biologic oldest brother's the brother's the Oregon fan. I don't know if he comes to the game. I'm sorry.

But, like, and I'm an Oregon fan. Me and my stepdad is an Oregon fan. What got you on Oregon? What did your stepdad showed you a game or something like that? Like my stepdad used to come in like at the work. Because, you know, Oregon down south, they'd come on later. Right. So I used to sneak up late and watch the games.

As my mom told us to go to band for school and watch Oregon. and Deathan Thomas, oh man, like Keyes, he was a little guy, and I was a little guy too, but I didn't know about waiting and stuff like that, but he was doing stuff out there. I used to go try out against, like, my homeboys outside. And I knew you just never get tackled, never get tackle. Until, like, I'm so tired, I'm going to just get a ball up. Like, okay, you can have a ball. But I used to mimic who, Farrell Brown, Deenton Thomas, like all those guys.

Like, I used to just go out there and try to mimic. And then my stepdad was like, hey, look at this jersey they got on this week. Or they come out here with this jersey. I'm like, oh, my goodness. Like, now, like, when I was a young age, it was like the end of the time it's end of the jerseys. Like, okay, I want to go there. Like, every day I used to beg for, like, an Oregon hoodie. Like, an Oregon hoodie I used to just beg for, just beg for.

And I finally got one when I was, like, going through, like, I was leaving middle school. I got an Oregon hood. I never took it off. Like, I never took it off. I don't even think I watched that thing, which is disgusting now. I don't think I used to watch that thing. Like, I used to, like, just wear it. Like, they know, like, everybody who knows me from knee high

on to now they know I'm an Oregon fan. I'm a die-hard Oregon fan. Like, and... They probably watch you, like, this man is legitimately living in his dream. Living it. And then it's so real to me, because when I entered the portal, I'm like, okay, like, you can see my comments. It got duck emojis.

And I'm like, okay, maybe it can happen. not even seeing signs. I'm thinking of, like, I text Bo, and I'm like, hey, Bo, you think Oregon to take me? This is him joking. I tell the story every time because it's so funny to me. This is around Christmas time. Like, I text, I'm like, hey, Bo, you think Oregon to take me?

He texts me. No, probably not. Like, he crushed my dreams. I'm like, okay, crush it. Now I'm thinking, low. You can't put in a good word. Okay, okay, you're supposed to be brothers. But now I'm thinking, low, like Memphis,

Like just lower schools, I can just stay down south. And I kid you not, like, the next day when my name officially entered the portal, I get a miss call from my mom, like, two of them. And I got 13 or 12 miscarls. And it's all from, like, Big Ten schools. Big Ten and Pack 12. But it's not one of them from Oregon. I think the first one called me was...

Nebraska? No, not Nebraska. I'm going to say Wisconsin. Wisconsin called me. that's the first call I really answered. Then they offered me. Then Penn State. Then Oklahoma State.

Then it started rolling UCLA. I'm like, all right, now it's starting to roll. My mom's like, hey, you need to pick up the phone. Did you put my number on the transfer? I'm like, yes, ma'am. I didn't really know. I just signed the paper. Like, at this point, like, I fulfilled.

Like, I'm into it. Like, I was so scared entering. I text my dad. I'm like, dad. I'm really scared. He was like, just pray on it. And I prayed. What made you scared to enter the portal?

The fact that you're leaving Troy and letting people down or like damn is anybody going to want me? That both of them. Like so when I leave in Troy, like Troy fan-based night, I love Troy. Troy supported me in so many ways. It was unreal. Every time I go back down south, I go to Troy just because the people, they supported me so much throughout thick and thin

because the first half of the season that last year I was there, I was hurt, separated my clavicle, and it was just all bad. And then I came back upstate. We lost on college game day. I don't want to talk about it. But I came back in it. But we won the championship there, and the support from the Troy fans was unreal.

The student section is unreal. Like, but I just felt like I fulfilled my destiny. And I was kind of scared of leaving them. And then I thought, then when I was like, okay, now who's going to take me? Now I'm going through this process. I think I'm going through this process again of, like, who's going to take me? I'm still a little guy.

But because at Troy, I'm going to put it out there. At Troy, I was 145 playing soaking wet. Like, I got there at 1.30. playing as a true freshman. Like, I'm just out there running, scared and, like, ugh. Trying not to get hit. Yeah, just trying not to get hit. Still trying to not to get hit.

Don't give your own. Still trying out to get hit. But I'm still a little guy out there running around. But I was just scared of just leaving and nobody to take me and going through the process again. Now I'm just back to square one. Right. But then again, now we're at the dinner table. Bo comes in the house with a bag, but he won't let me see it.

And I get a call from Coach, Junior Adams, and I think it's a Cali Area Code. I want to say it was a Cali Area Code, and I'm answering the phone. I'm like, hello. Like, Norman, hello. I'm like, I'm thinking it's like, who I'm thinking is. I'm thinking it's like, I'm thinking it's Texas NM because they just follow me on Twitter. So I'm like, I'm like, I text in the offer of me, so he called me.

But it's a Cali Area Code. I should have known like that's not a Texas Nandum. I should have known that. So I answered, he was like, hey, this Junior Add is from Oregon. And I was like, what? I paused. He's talking about it. I'm looking at my mom, like, there's Oregon.

Like, it's Oregon. Like, it's so real. They're on the phone. And he was like, if you want to offer your scholarship, but this is something you want to do, I said, Coach, I'm committed. Like, that's the next word in my mouth. Like, I don't care who else offered me after this. I'm committed. I'm going to Oregon. Like, it's, I don't care how far away it is.

It could have been somewhere else down farther than where it is now. But I'm going to Oregon. I'm going up there. And by this time, I didn't know what was staying. I'm thinking he'd leave him to the NFL. Yeah. I'm still not in my head. I'm still thinking like, okay, I'm going over there by myself all alone. And then the video comes out, he's back. I'm like, oh, I'm not a world for to know. Like, this is going to be crazy.

Yeah. Because us together is a, oh, my goodness, that's like putting jumper cables on the wrong way. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, me and both together is some serious. And just being able to get the organ with them again and was like, in breaking records, again, not knowing I was on the road to breaking the record anyway because he always kept my mind away from everything. And he still do, he'll text me every other day and be like, hey, you suck.

Just let you know you mean him. Yeah, you're not him. Like you just, and that's his way of saying, stay humble, don't feed into the media. And I still think of that. But as soon as I committed, he come out with an organ shirt, two gloves and some shorts. I'm like, you knew the whole time.

Like, you knew the whole time. could have told me so my hoax wouldn't get up or something. Like, you could have told me. I was just waiting on it. Like, I'm sitting there like, my dreams are crushed. I'm never going to Oregon. And then I get the phone call. He got the gloves for me.

It was the little pink breast cancer gloves they wore from UCLA. Yeah. Now it's time to, now I'm going to put some drip on. And I'm the best dripper in college. I can tell you that right now. You're number one? Number one. I don't care.

No one says. Is there a close second? Who's out there that's, whose game you respect? Whose game? I respect. Yeah. Just hands down, like, if I turn on the film who the guy I want to watch, hands down. Drip.

Drip-wise? Yes. Oh, Tinkdell. Tank-Dell? Tank-Dell got some drip on them. Stefan Diggs, dude. But you're number one in college? Oh, yeah.

There's nobody you see in college that kind of competes. Nobody else in college. You can go to my profile. You can see, like, I got that drip on. Everything is color coordinated, but I'm going to offset it with the mouthpiece. I'm going to mess them up with the mouthpiece. I'm going to tell them. Every time I'm going to do something totally different.

Some you think you saw, but it's different. Okay. You're like, oh, no, wait. Now he got the spat on the one thing. I may need to do that. No, you can't do that. You can't, you just got to put a little splat on it. You can't do too much.

Can't do too much, but you can do it, though. Oh, he's electric, bro. Oh, yeah, he's electric. Dude, could it outside of obviously you guys, you want to win the Pac-12 title and outside of your two losses, could it have went any better for you? this year person. I mean, record in what, receptions, third most yards in a single season?

And you're growing up loving DeAnthony Thomas. Like, you're mimicking these guys. And now you hold a record. Like, could it have worked out any better for you? Right. It was, it's so real. Me actually going out here and racing the Athens-Thompson Bean and was so real for me. Like, he got out here in the lineup and we, huh, off the line I got him.

I'm like, yeah, he probably just, oh, right now. His knees ain't worked. Yeah, he lost a little step in him. I'm still a little young guy But now it's so real Like it can't go any better Way than what it is God write his story in so many ways

And every day I remind myself To live in his presence And give thanks to him Because it's only possible Because of him So Me setting the record was Because

I feel like that's A quarterback Your brother You got your brother You got your brother back in the pocket Hey hey Beau You know I'm close to this For sent your record

Now It was No it was just one of the things Like one of my teammate, my rooms, my receiver room is so supportive of me. Troy Franklin, Coach Adams, they taught me so much as far as coverages. And knowing who's in, knowing who can guard you, who can't guard you, which nobody can guard me. Not on me, not on the big-ass stuff, but like, that's how I carry myself every day. But just knowing, like, who's going to be out there guarding you on this play?

Who's going to be Seahawks, double team of you on this play, knowing how to beat it? Like, Troy Franklin taught me so much in his years here. It's so real. But we're going to get Washington back. Don't worry about it. It's okay. Last game of season, see you and I. We got something coming for y'all.

Yeah, what can we expect this upcoming season? Generation of old. I'm telling you right now, nobody in the country got the stuff like Oregon. Nobody. We touch it first and y'all get it right after us. That's right. Y'all going to get it right out to us. Every time we touch it first, every time you see something new,

we touched it first way before I even hit the net. Yo, he's a juicy. How about, so you got, you had Bow last year, you have Dylan Gabriel this year. What have you seen so far out of him? You take a lot of pride in on the quarterback before they know you. Like, what have you seen?

He's electric. He's more, he's more of a receiver type of mindset guy. Like, I say that because he talks trash. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Oh, okay. He threw a whole shot completed. You like that, huh?

Okay, like, let's do it. Like, he's a good quarterback. He's smart. He loves to compete. That's one thing I see from, like, Bow's a silent assassin. Yeah. Like, you know, he's going to pick you apart and, like, you're going to have to respect him at the end of the game. Like, you're going to walk up to him, shake his hand and be like, oh, you good.

Dylan going to let you know he's good while he's throwing that ball. Like, all right, he'll go a ball lefty. That's a dot. Yeah, here you go. Like, let's keep it rolling. Like, Dylan's a guy. He's really good. he's goofy, bro.

Like, he's in the locker room. The difference between them, like, Bo is a, like I say, he's a pro. Like, you'll see him one or two times. Like, in the locker room and he'll crack jokes and then get out and then get to his means. Doing his thing. Dylan, he's one of the bros.

Like, he's going to be in there. He's going to get everything done early, then chill with us in the locker room. You know what I'm saying? He wants to be a part of the team, which is not saying that Bo don't want to be a part of the team. Like, he was way a part of the team. He always said something to us.

Different personalities. Yeah, he's just, it's just different. Like, we see Dylan in the locker room every day. He comes in there and he'll yell just for no reason. He's like, oh, here he go. Oh, here he go. And he carries that to the field. Yeah.

He swayed the drippyest quarterback in college, but I don't think so right now. He got to put something on. Like, he got some tattoos. Yeah, the tattoos make up for it. You know what I'm saying? But he got to put something on, no. You got to get him right? Now, I don't think I can get them right, though.

I don't think it's the helmet, bro. His device is fat, and his head already, like, wide. So you got to, like, it's compact. Do you try to put him on game? Like, do you try and help him out? Yeah. Because sometimes that's all you need. You need your teammate to come up to and kind of instill that confidence.

Like, hey, you know it's okay if you do this. See, he do the opposite. See, I'm going to cover my whole left side. He's going to cover this leg and this arm. Like, he's going to do an opposite alternate. I'm going to keep it the same side. keep it simple. Don't touch this side. Like, I don't...

He's dripped, though. He's... He got little drip. Any white boys with some swag on the team? T. Ferg. Terrence Ferguson. He got some drip. Is that natural? You all have to help him out? Like myself, in BIA, Kyle, we can't let you walk out there like that. No, you got the newbies on. I'm messing with the newbies.

You got the newbies on. The 5-50s. He got the newbies. He got the newbies on. I got them at the crib right now. He got the newbies on. I like them right there. I got a lot of newbies. I got a newbie collection. Just start fucking showing it all. J.P. he was hating on him yesterday in the airport.

Oh, for real? Hainting on him, bro. Come on, you can't hate on the newbies, bro. The newbies is good. But no, Kyle of Casper got some drip too. What did you think of his shoes? Show him, J.P. The Meditas?

No, we can't mess with them. We had Nike headquarters almost, basically, with those. So, I mean, yeah, T. Furr got some drip on them. Who else? You got Kylea Casper. Kyle Casper got some drip. But he's just tall. He got tattoos, so it just looked good.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He looked like, oh gosh, what's his name from Ricky Pearsall from Florida. That's what he looked like. Yeah. I mean, Taylor, who's not here, I mean, he's tatted everywhere. He's got it. White boy, yes, everywhere.

Whole body. Whole body? Leg. Yeah. My boy, Bucky was a, okay, Bucky was a dripper too, though. Bucky, Bucky Irvin? Okay. Bucky, Bucky, you put some drip on.

Bucky and put everything on, but his Klee game is going to be crazy. And then outside of that, he's going to be so simple, wear a sweatsuit, but his shoe game, you're going to have to look and be like, Oh, them Deors. Oh, them Blinsey's, like, like, you're going to be like, oh, okay, now he's going to upset you with something. It's going to be crazy. That's all you need, a little simple, but something crazy at the end.

Some subtle. Yeah. Your favorite purchase, we're now in the NIL generation. What's been your favorite purchase so far? My favorite purchase. You know, you get to the NFL. They talk about your first paycheck. What's the first thing you ball?

What's the favorite thing you've done? My favorite purchase. I got two. I got two. I got a Rolex bus down. and a Cartier Cartier watch, bro. I got that and I got my chain

the Tasmania chain with my area code hooked up to it so like I mean I got... You come correct Yeah, I got to come correct I step simple though

I'm gonna wear the chain I'm not willing to watch If I were to watch I might bust the chain just because I got the suit on like you know what I'm saying It depends on the night Yeah, depends on the night

It shakes somebody hand It pops out in the light hit it You might see some VVS and y'i My bad I'm sorry But other than that I mean, I'm pretty, them three right there. I got three, my bad, not just one. Okay.

But I'm chilling right now. I'm cool until the season come and then when the season come. Jump off. I jump off. Well, I might cool during the season and get the drive day and then set it off. Like, I don't know. No what I'm saying? I don't know.

I don't know. I just got something. What's been your favorite part about playing for Coach Laining? The consistent challenge she gives us. Like, it's every day we. got a new challenge. Okay, he challenged us, um, he challenged us every single day. Like, all right, he'll challenge you one day and say, hey man, we got to finish strong. Or, and then the next day, everything, we got to be fast. Like, all right, we go, like, some days

he'll switch up practice on, like, completely different. Like, we'll see the schedule, but we'll go out there and have, like, say, for this is my bracket on here, but no, unless you know, we'll go out there and go straight to mama drill like we did today. Like, everybody knows, like, my bracket, that's hitting. Like, we got to go out there and hit like you got to block something and yeah that's dns linebackers you like you getting the whole the whole nine but you blocking linebackers it depends on what play better it depends it depends on what play it is like it depends on yeah i got a little better this year though last year i was kind of hesitant i wasn't but now i could stick my nose and now i catch them off guard like i got to go in there

quick and just let them know i'm there and then like try to hold them up but once they know it's me on then they'll just take me and be like, oh, I move. I'm like, okay. Like, you know, I mean, I'm honest. Just getting their way long enough. Yeah, getting that way long enough, he hit the perimeter. You can't get there now, but, I mean, I did my job. So, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's, yeah.

He just challenged us, like, just being the best version of ourselves every day. Like, he's tough. You're going to see it, like, you, like us as an offense. If we're killing this defense, he's a defensive coach. I'm going to say, if we're killing this defense, you can look back at him. He'd get mad. Like, okay. to do this again.

Like, the next day, that same play we try to run is boxed up. She was like, all right, he's a scripted. We look back to that. He's scripted that. He's back there. He's back there. Like, yeah, nah, nah, now we're going to go over there to tell Coach Stein. Hey, no, let's call this.

Because we know he's going to play Seahawk here. Okay, we're going to run past him. And he's going to get, oh, he going to get livid. But it's, it feel like the players are, like, on offense play against Coach Lennon. Because, like, you know, like, he can call it. Coach Todd's over there calling, like, we plan against them. Also, we plan against the player, but, like, his, like, his creativeness on defense is so real. Like, he'll show you one coverage, then it's a whole different coverage.

Every time we check, they check. If we don't check, they're still checking. Like, they're going to key, like, safe as I'm in motion. They're going to key me the whole time. Either they're going to bump it or push it, like, they're going to show something. They're going to show like they're going to drop eight, but bring three people that we can't even block. Yeah. And now, now we're going to look back and be like,

Like, what do you get that from, bro? Like, is that even real? Like, it's stuff like that. But he's a consistent, like, challenger. Like, he's going to challenge you with everything. And he don't care how big the challenge is. Let's see if you can do it. You want to say you want to get here?

All right, let's see what you got, what it takes to be there. Like, so that's what we like about him. Taz, bro. Thank you for this conversation. This is a lot of fun. You brought a lot of good energy, a lot of good use to the conversation. But I appreciate it, bro.

I appreciate you sharing the stuff in the beginning. and it's really cool to see where you're at now and all the luck to you this year, bro. Thank you, man. Hope you guys do well, unless you play Nebraska. I hope we play Nebraska just for him. Dylan Gabriel, bro. First question.

Getting permission to wear number eight. Yep. Was that a conversation with Marcus? I played with Marcus for a year in Tennessee and then a year in Vegas. DeMarco Murray as well? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no.

I was after DeMarcus. Mark. Oh, after, okay. He put us on sushi pure last night for a spot to eat. As he said, that was his favorite. I've got put it on there too. But what was it like? Purple rice. Yeah. Purple rice. It's a real deal. Getting permission from him to wear number eight, was that, was that an ordeal? Or was that just a simple conversation? It was an ordeal. I think it was just more under respect. Coming from the islands, like, he's the guy we, you know, kind of looked up to and he kind of set the stage for all the quarterbacks. coming up, not only quarterbacks, players in general.

And, you know, I wore eight at Oklahoma. But once I came here, you know, I kind of told the coach, I was like, hey, you know, out of respect, you know, I'll probably wear, you know, a new number or something like that. And then, I don't know, just kind of rethought it because Landon said something cool about how, like, how special that would be. And then end up texting them. And then next thing, you know, I just said, hey, can I wear it? you know, just want to get his okay.

And then once I did, it's special. He was like, Marcus was the guy, I bet, when you're coming up watching and played Oregon, yeah? Huge. You had him, you had Teo. Yep, we had Mantae, him, DeForest Buckner, who played here. Kind of a lot. Even, you know, Hawaii guys as well, kind of who we, you know, looked up at U.H. But all in all, Marcus was definitely the, you know, head hunch.

So take us through your recruiting journey. You've obviously had a fascinating one. You've bounced around. I want to say I was reading when you were, did you, were you committed to Army? I was. Committed to Army, go visit somewhere else, decommit. You visit a couple schools, I think bigger schools and then end up at UCF. Talk about your recruiting journey coming out of high school.

Yeah, so coming out, I didn't have anything really. I had the three academies and University of Hawaii. just wanted to try something new and go off the island. So funny enough, Jeff Monkin, who's the head coach at Army and who still is, was my dad's GA at the University of Hawaii when he was playing quarterback. Coach Kenny knew Matalolo was my dad's backup, and Paul Johnson was my dad's OC. So the triple option, you know, my dad was all around it.

But that connection kind of happened. I visited Army, ended up committing in the summer. prior to my senior year. Then kind of season went on. I love this story, but, you know, I love this story, but, you know, I remember watching a game in Army only three times. And I just, you know, looked at my dad and I was like, man, I think I really want to throw the ball and, you know, play ball a different way.

So ended up, you know, decommitting kind of like, you know, towards the back end of my high school or my senior year of high school. And then, you know, oddly enough. things just started firing off. And everyone jokes around, they think it's because there's a passing record in Hawaii, and I end up beating Tua. And Georgia obviously was playing Bama. And another full circle moment.

Coach Lending was at Georgia. But Georgia offered me UCF and USC. And kind of went on those three visits right before that December signing day. And all three of them said, hey, you got to be here in January. And I really wasn't prepared for that. So I ended up taking, you know, four online classes within a two-week period, signed with UCF. And then I was there on January 3rd. So it just, it all happened really fast.

I'm blessed and very happy it did. But definitely a funny time of life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was there friction when you were decommitting from Army with your old man? There wasn't, you know, their family and they always will be, you know, just with that connection with my dad. And then coached Sean Saternio, he's another guy that, you know, you know, I still keep in contact with who's just been, you know, really that guy who's also come from Hawaii and tries to look out for Hawaii players. So when I had that, I was, you know,

not not bugged at all. They're very kind and obviously knew that, you know, I was going to go play at a different school. Why UCF over Georgia and USC? At the time, I just wanted to play. You know, I've always kind of put that at the forefront of what I want to do. I want to go play the game. That's what I love to do. And, you know, not saying I couldn't have played at Georgia or USC. It's just at the time UCF was having an open competition. And I was like, hey, as long as I got a shot or a chance, like an opportunity, then I'm going to go make it happen.

And at the time, Justin Fields and Jake Frowell are still at Georgia. J.T. Daniels was still a freshman at USC. Don't say, I'm not saying I'm old. I'm just saying that was at the time. And, you know, I looked at UCF. my buddy McKenzie Milton was injured that year and they said there's open competition so I was like let's go do it

yeah you had a couple good years at UCF were you injured I did my third year your third year before you hit the portal right I got injured that third game against Louisville talk about that was there a lot of doubt creeping in on coming back from the injury being able to move on

put another season together yeah I think it was my first injury in college real injury like I had fractured my collarbone, which I'd done in high school, you know, kind of one of those lizard deals where you just kind of let it heal back up and then, you know, get the strength back. But I think at the time I was so, you know, fixated and set on, you know, maybe this could be the year to, you know, go and do it, right? And I think God has a great way of kind of keeping you present and humbling you, but also just kind of the storm I needed right in that time period

of my life. And I think it changed the trajectory of my life as well. You know, just seeing life in a different perspective, you know, being sidelined for the first time and in my career, you know, playing as a freshman in high school on varsity, playing all four years, and then end up starting again at UCF as a freshman. So that third year, I feel like just gave me a different perspective and really changed my outlook on just being a good teammate in a different way. And I think that's helped me. you know all up until this point when did you know you're going to hit the portal i had a clue kind of like that last two weeks of um the season you know when i got injured i was just focused on getting healthy um trying to get strength back and then i remember talking about my family like hey

what are we going to do you know like what's kind of the next step and i i hadn't really thought about it and um just as that season went on i just felt like you know i was wanted to be challenged. I wanted to try something new and be in an offense that could potentially push me to continue to get better. How did Oklahoma grab you? Another crazy story. So, yeah, definitely recruiting stories.

I've got a bunch of them. But coming out of UCF, when I was transferring, I visited Ole Miss where my OC, prior OC at UCF, Coach Levy, was at he went to Ole Miss my first year, after my first year at UCF. Then after that visit, I felt like I was going to go to Ole Miss, but Coach Levy ended up going to Oklahoma. When that happened, took a visit to UCLA, and at the time really loved it, you know, and wanted to make it happen. So I ended up pulling the trigger and committing to UCLA.

As that time went on... Get some stuff in the situations. As that time went on, though, we just had conversations, and I just really wanted to know what I was walking into. not knowing if DTR was coming back or not. You know, the quarterback room kind of had like a kind of unknown. And, you know, I was telling coach, hey, I just want to know what's kind of going on,

what I'm walking into. They couldn't clarify that and, you know, kind of keep it up front and honest, which is totally fine. I just, you know, kind of... You want some more clarity. More clarity and kind of just know what you're walking into. I think that is not much to ask,

but kind of up until that last date, January 3rd is when school started And I was supposed to be on a flight Coach Leby ended up calling me January 2nd and just said, boomer And I'm like, what do you mean, coach? You know, and I don't know, after that I ended up not taking the flight, not jumping into class

And then I was a sooner. He was a sooner. Is that coach still there? He is not. Now he's at the head coach at Mississippi State. Okay, okay. Is that the reason you jumped in the portal again? you end up here?

It is. Talk about that recruiting story. So another time I think, you know, just God has been able to keep me present is I was, again, fixated on the NFL. And like this is my last year, I had a very, I guess, clear vision of what I was going to do. But you're saying going, play at Oklahoma for a year and then go to the next level. Yes. And when that happened, I think everyone was under the same impression, right?

you know the school players coaches all that so the preparation prior to that i think was the same for everyone um so you know going into that season i felt like you know we were doing damn good we had two bumps in the road that definitely you know affected us you know for the college football playoffs um but up into that last two games again where kind of conversation started to happen um i got my draft grade back which was seven round undrafted And I was like, dang, you know, I felt like in all, you know, categories of whatever quarterback play it could be, you know, I felt like I was top five. And I guess that's what I was presented.

And when I got that, you know, seven-round undrafted, I was like, you know, I couldn't sleep at night knowing I had extra year that I could maximize and get better and have a guaranteed year of football, right? And I don't want to say guaranteed, but at least another year to play. and I just wanted to maximize that. And like I said, with everyone having that preparation of me not being back there for another year, I just felt like it was right. And something that, you know, I was excited about.

Transferring is not easy, but it's just kind of how my journey went. And with coach going to Mississippi State was that if he had stayed, would you say that you'd still be at Oklahoma? Or everything was just kind of like you were saying, you were kind of the preparation was around you leaving so it almost just felt like the end of the chapter anyway I think it was a mixture okay I think it was a mixture I guess we'll never know right if he did stay but um yeah I think it was the perfect storm of where I needed to be and you know the path that God has set out for me I just trusted it and you know I'm here now and shoot it's a big blessing how was the psyche when you get the draft grade of

seventh undrafted because I'm assuming like you know you're excited about something you're preparing for something and then to see something that's kind of like below what you thought it might be like take us through those moments i mean i understand it you know it's the facts so i'm not gonna you know when i'm presented that i feel like you know that's just what it is right right and whether i like it or not that's the facts and you know i had to live with it and make a decision based off of of that and um shoot it's not the best feeling. You know, I think you, when, as a player, you produce and, you know, put your play on the field, I feel like your, you know, your confidence and what you put out there is something that you are proud of, you know, and want to, or not proud of, right? Yeah. But I think that, you know,

when I got that back, it's just, it was disappointing, but also I went straight to making a decision and live on it. How did you identify Oregon as being the right place for you? Three things. You know, offensive fit, you know, guys around me, and then just being able to win. You know, I want to be in the big games, big time moments. And, you know, at this point in my career,

I just feel like winning's everything. You know, that's all I want. How can I serve my teammates in the best way and lead and bring, you know, that positive energy every day? You know, I feel like everything we have here is, is top-notch. Right. You know, living off the land. You guys got some nice facilities.

Yeah, living off the land is real, you know. And then talent isn't, you know, our issue. You know, it's going to be putting it all together and seeing, you know, how well we can connect and execute at a high level. I think every team that's done it and won has done those two things. How do you feel coming in after Bo Nix? I feel good. Successing him. Yeah, I've watched, you know, him play a bunch.

And I think, you know, as seasons go on, you definitely are able to see, you know, quarterbacks playing at a high level. And, you know, New Bo was doing that. And I think that's what made Oregon such an attractive place is just how they let the quarterback go play. The types of throws you're able to make. And then also, you know, seeing, you know, obviously when there's success at a program, you know that it takes a bunch of people. You know, as a quarterback, you understand that.

And what he's been able to do is super impressive. Talking about the portal, the portal gets such like a different mix of reviews, right? Good, bad, whatever opinions are out there. You seem to use the portal well to your advantage. What do you feel like you've learned or what experience you've acquired, just being able to go to different spots?

You grow up in Hawaii. You go to UCF. Then you go to the middle of America. in Oklahoma. Now you're all the way up in the top corner to Oregon. What do you feel like you've learned with the portal and what it's taught you? I've learned change is hard, but it can be really good for you. Being uncomfortable is the only way to create growth. And I've also learned that, you know, doing it for the right reason. You know, I feel like I've seen it go both ways. I'm very blessed. Like I said, I trusted my heart, trusted people.

that kind of has led me to be around programs that have been successful but also can reproduce that consistently and um i i just trusted it you know i trusted my decision and kind of just was where my feet you know were and you know that's why i'm so you know focus on right now and and where i'm at and um yeah it's it's interesting though you know as a guy who's seen you're kind of part of the first wave too of it all I am. I joke around. I was a COVID baby. I was a NIL baby, a transfer portal baby. So I've seen it all. But I think I've just adapted and accepted the fact of this, what it is. But also there's beauty in both sides of everything, you know, of any, you know, good and bad. I think just because it's new, that's why it's hard to accept, right? Like free agency in the NFL. I think NFL fans are a lot more used to change. new quarterbacks, new players, new coaches. You know, new coaches.

You know, new coaches. Not to return. It's business, yeah. And that's what's hard, too, is college football is so... The school spirit, man, yeah. School spirit, authentic. And I still believe it still is. I just think it's so new.

I think 10 to 15 years from now will be a lot more used to it. And just how coaches leave, you know, there's happy fans, there's mad fans. but at the end of the day, someone new will be in there and they'll end up liking it out, you know? Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. With all the experience you feel like you've acquired and, like, wisdom you've gained from it, is there anything you look back on

that you would have done differently? That's a great question. And maybe, like, obviously you're here, so the answer would be no, right? But is there stuff you look back? You're like, oh, that was a learning lesson there. I do. I think a lot is in football

and trying to get better. I think situational football is something that I wish as a young quarterback I really focused on and understood. I sometimes wish that my approach at a younger age was to listen to the words rather than the tone, right? And passion is huge in football, but how do you listen to the message and be coachable and understand that while, like I said, emotions are flying, right? I think as I've gotten older, I've, you know, been able to just cut that out.

Compartmentalize a little bit better. Exactly. And just, you know, stay even kill. Not be pissed when a coach is getting in your ass. That's for sure. And play each play individually. You know, I think that's something that a lot of people struggle to do is do the easy things really at an elite level.

And that's what I strive to do, you know, execute at a high level, play each play individually, and then just try. to win every rep because, you know, if you look at it like that, it'll hopefully be a good part at the end, you know, hopefully ending in a touchdown. But I just try to do that. It's easy to say, hard to do. Right. Always a work in progress. What have you enjoyed most about Coach Lending in this coaching staff since coming here? It's been refreshing. I think a young coach who gets it and is challenging us, but also not demeaning, not saying I've had that experience in my time. I feel like any player, like I've had coaches, hey, you kind of fucked me up a little bit mentally

with some of these comments. For sure. I think it's just been refreshing. You know, I think he's very innovative in the way he thinks, whether it's scheme or even just how we practice, what we do, how we do what we do. I think that's very important because a lot of people are doing the same thing. but trying to find your edge. And I think that he's done a really good job of that

just within my four months of being here. He seems fiery, bro. He's just got that passion that he just... I don't want to swear, but he's got some shit to him. Yeah, he's got some shit to him. You got to enjoy that. And, you know, having a coach that's willing to get in there with you, whether it's running, lifting, like, he's sweating at practice.

He's in it, you know? Like, I feel like that is, you know, empowering feeling, knowing that your coach is, you know, being a part of what you're doing. Yeah. Not having levels. Right. A hierarchy, I guess. Right, like talking down to players, whatever it is, or in it with you.

For sure. We had Tess on. Tess was saying he's the drippiest athlete in the game. And he also alluded to our quarterback thinks he's drippy, but he's not. Oh, gosh. Do you have any, you care to comment on his comments? I would beg to disagree with him. he's he's a one sleeve what he does is I think very basic he execute nobody executes it

at a high level that's what I'll give him right so yeah he's got the one leg sleeve you know he'll go white black green yellow so he mixes it up he does the arm sleeve as well on the same side I'd love to see some altered you know alternatives of you know one each side maybe a sleeve on the left sleeve on the right that's what he said too he said I like to go all one side yes and then He says he'll be the tattoos. Did he say it's because of the tattoos? He showed us his Instagram after talking about, I went it this way so you can see my tattoos on the right leg.

He'll change the visors. He does gloves. He does different cleats. But to me, I feel like swag is more of an energy. It's more of a vibe, right? Like there's something to, you know, a guy that doesn't really wear much and can, you know, rock out. But there's also something to being able to swag out at a high level.

but I would just say his competition is really not that much on our team in the receiver. I say that because it's either, I mean, what can you really do? Leggings, maybe some arm sleeves. Right. You can mix match, some gloves, but I think it's execution. He's talking mouthpiece. He's like, hey, this is Viger pregame. This is, I take the Vicer all for the games.

Does he do that? He's like, so you can see the color of my mouth piece? Yeah, he seems very calculated with his style. I feel like that's too much. And he pours a lot into it I respect it though I respect it I think what he executes at a high level

the like sleeve he doesn't mess it up you know I give him that yeah good colors he cuts the you know the left leg yeah the tattoo's showing cleats are always at a high level but up top I feel like he's

he could do better yeah all right another question we asked him you know one of the first questions that you get asked when you get in the NFL is like what did you do with your first paycheck what was your first favorite purchase being in the nil world what's been uh you know one he gave us three of his favorite purchases with the with the with the with the with the with the nil era was his

chain his watch and his car yeah yeah chain watch another watch what kind of car is he driving around uh i think it's a BMW okay yeah or no i don't even want to say an amg i don't know but i've seen him in one so it might be a white m g But, oh, gosh. I don't know. He's been in three different cars since I've been here. Here's my thing, though.

In the NFL, do they judge, do they judge for you leasing a car? Do they judge, you know, like, how does that work in the NFL? Like, if he's leasing it? What if he's, what if he's renting the car for like a month? Yeah, if you're in with a dealership, like, you're, you know, you're in a different ball game. For sure. You're in a, you're in a great spot. Do what?

Do you know what I drive? No. Nobody's told you? What do you drive? Chrysler white minivan. Nice. Automatic doors. Two touch screens.

Got some Kirk cousins to him. Kirk drove this abysmal van around. He might still. But for the five years I was in much. Good insurance. Super efficient. It's hybrid. So just in case I do miss out on gas, I got electricity.

It's hybrid. And then it can fit seven people. Eight if you want to use that middle side. Like, I mean, that's illegal, but. But if you get in a pinch. You need eight. You got to make it happen. Yeah, you can make it happen.

You can make it around the street. Would you say your minivans, your favorite purchase? Uh, I would say so. You got some nice looking earrings in right now. Oh, dude. You guys are going to beat me up about the earrings. No, no, I'm just saying I do it. Amazon, $15.99.

I got a 20 pack. Yeah, you got the chad. Chains real, though. Chains real, though. But, yeah, the earrings are Amazon. Yeah. Sorry. Don't judge.

Budget shopping on a budget. So favorite purchase? Favorite purchase? Um, King bed. Nice. I try to purchase things that you'll use every day. So like,

yeah, yeah, yeah, very heady purchase. Huge. So, you know, me and my girlfriend used to have a full bed.

It was tough, you know, but once we got the king bed, it's like, she's on a whole other island. Yeah. You know, and you get your space.

Um, so that was huge. Helps me with sleeping. And there's something to just being able to. What brand? Gosh, I don't even know. It's not,

A sleep number, but I don't know. It's a little fancy. It's a little fancy. Hey, you sleep every night. Temporepetic neck pillow. Have you guys ever seen those? Man, I don't, I don't mesh well with them. Just because I don't really stay in one spot, I start on my back, I go to my side.

You can turn on them, and it's still. Maybe there's a new, there's, maybe there's. I'll send you it on Amazon. I'm on my Amazon. Yeah, okay. I find everything. And then a couch. Comfort.

It's like, it is. You're going to use every day. You seem to be a little. Yes. And then let me. give you a fun one. I didn't really buy anything crazy. A dog?

Can I say a dog? Yeah, what kind of dog? Winston, he's a miniature schnauzer. He's golden. I can, you know, I'll pull a tess. How much was the dog? Oh, I don't want to say. Four?

I'm not even going to, because people are going to, that's a judgment. I mean, yeah, you get a pure breed, man. You get him from a breeder, too. Here's Winston. Oh, it's a cute little boy. He's. Is he Winston? That's a cute little boy.

he's able to travel. Yeah. We're teaching him how to stay so that when I throw he can just be in the throwing sessions and... Was he more than three-year-old? Yeah, he was.

He was. Gosh. I know. That's all right. People love their animals, man. I know. I mean, I spent, we spent a few thousand

on my English mold. They'll change your life, though. But he's changed my life for the word, or she's changed my life for the worst. I'm just kidding. What happened is we had a kid. We had a kid, and she went down in the pecking order.

That's fair. And they're just stubborn animals, bro. Like, you can't get a bulldog to do nothing. Sleep? Yeah, sleep, and their but their butthole's exposed, so they'll just fucking... Fart. They'll fart, but they got, what's that? The little, you know...

No, no, not that. What about cherry eye? Does that happen? Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where they get a little fucking... She'll be like gnawn on something, her eye will be like popping out a bit. Hey, hey, cut that shit out, dude.

That's real. But it's like their anal glands. Oh, like, they got some seepage. comes out of their anal. All dogs have it, but most have a tail. But since hers is exposed, sometimes it'll get on the furniture and you'll smell it. You'll just be in the worst mood, bro.

Dude. That's tough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Humbling moment, though, wiping your dog's butt? Yeah. Oh, God. I would have to wipe her at, I mean, every time she's shit, but once we got on Farmer's Dog,

and this is no, no free shout-outs to Farmer's Dog, but once we got her on Farmers Dog, it's good. Health, I'm talking, she lost weight. She's a little athlete now. I mean, Gary, you guys saw her back when she, was at her fatest. Hoping up on the couch.

Getting patchy, like on the back. She was like lose her hair and stuff, dander and shit. Just from like eating the kibble. We get them on farmer's dog, which is like real food. Dude, that's what you talk about feeling your body with the right stuff. Yeah. Got to feel that Ferrari, man. English bulldog.

It's real. Boys, we got anything else for Dylan? Speaking about bodies, I got a question. How's your body after years in the NFL? Oh, dude. This is what a pro. It's what a post NFL body looks like. I'm saying, is it like, do you wake up and you're like, do you feel better?

I'll say this. I've had a lot of problems with my low back. Okay. And this is nothing new to the audience watching right now. I've been vocal about it. You think it's the squatting? What do you think? The heavy squats?

I don't squat anymore. I don't load my spine anymore. But I don't think it's that. I don't think it was like all the years of wear and tear doing that. I think at times, like you will sacrifice some form to be heavier on the weight. Like I look back on that and you want solid form because I do think back. squatting is good for you. But where my back is at currently, it's not. It's not. I honestly, I don't think I can do that much just because it hurts. It bothers me. Like, I'll, I'll go out

on the golf course and I'll be on the couch for a week just from torquing. Like, I've been working on it. I'm seeing a dock right now. What about knees? Knees? Knees? Shoulders? Nees are okay. Nees, I'll get some inflammation every now. I tore my PCL, but I'll get some inflammation every now and then, but my knees are all right. I would say overall, I'm decent. I'm on the, I'm on the come up right now. Legit, I'm on the come up. I'm working with this doc right now. He's out of Brentwood.

I like that. And he's got me going. He's got me doing some really good stuff from my little back back. Is that the same for some of your peers that have played in the NFL? There are some guys that are really healthy. There are some guys. But it's more like the bigger guys are kind of beat down a little bit more. I mean, you're a quarterback.

I feel like you're going to be, you get to wear the jersey at practice. Like you don't get touched. That's what I was saying, like in the spring. Gosh, we like actually are able to like get healthy if you did have something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And your body can get strong and I guess not beat it up. Yeah. There are some things, but I don't know how familiar you are with Barstool.

We had a combine recently. And if you watch the tape, I mean, it was a 35-yard dash. I ran a 3-6. What was it, 3-6? So I'm still- Was it the fastest? Yeah. You know.

Okay, how much did you weigh in the NFL? And then how much do you do you? Low 2-30s. Right now I'm 2-17. That's not bad. Yeah. Yeah, so. Does it feel better?

Does what, losing the weight? Yeah. I mean, it didn't really, I didn't feel like I had to fluctuate that much. Like, I would have to, like, keep weight on, but it didn't fluctuate for me that much. Gotcha. But this is kind of like, it feels a little more natural. I'm not working out as hard. That's the beautiful thing.

Whenever you get done playing, you're kind of like, you wake up one morning, you're like, why am I doing all this hard-ass shit? And then you just get to kind of take care of yourself a little bit more. Yeah, go meet the right people. Maybe you put a couple things in your body. Do you have any secret sauce? Like, okay, on Monday, is this what I used to do? Or on, you know, throughout your week?

Like, is there any secret sauce to, like, in the NFL, you're like, this is my go-to. Like, I had, like, for me, massages and ice tubs are, like, I need it, you know. But if you had any secret sauces, it could even be in the film room. It could be what were you like? I got, Matt, can really put you on some game in the film room, but, um, secret sauce, bro. I feel like I was one of those guys. I always did so much to where I didn't actually know what was helping me or not. Whether it be supplements, like food, massages, saunas, cryo, colds, like, you're like with

a group of guys, right? Like, I'm sure there's a couple guys, like you rock with that are kind of more on your routine with things. Or there's a level you're like, oh, I kind of want to go hang with them because they're doing some things that I necessarily haven't done. And you kind of like have this little posse that rolls around. But we do so much stuff to where I don't necessarily know exactly what would help me out all the time. It's like, I'm sure you do. You're like living on the normatex after practice.

You're doing all these different things. For me, I always felt like if I could win my morning, I would be set up better for practice than the rest of the day. Like try and get ahead, right, on your checklist. Right. Like if you're hitting the cold water, if you're doing things that has you juiced up for the day, because you know if you're kind of in a mood or you're kind of like a little sluggish and you know it's either from the day before or you didn't do the right thing in the morning, you snooze a little too much. That's usually where I get behind the eight ball, because then I get in my own head about it because I just, you know,

you're like verbally beat yourself up. Like, you, I know if I do X, Y, and Z in the morning, I'm going to be set up better for the rest of the day. So you'd be like set the tone. Set the tone. Set the tone. That would be the juice. Just set the tone when the morning.

I like that's the key. And in the film room, like, you know, if we get some time, we can get in there and dabble. But I'm sure you see it way differently than I do. Same, I'd say the quarterback of the defense, right? Yeah. Well, yeah, but you got, you know, quarterback brains. You guys got a lot of different animals going on.

I got one more. Go ahead. Family, balance, life, work balance, right? Or work-life balance. Yeah. I guess in the NFL and then, like, being able to come home, let's say you had a bad day or a good day. And, like, you got the kids at home.

I know your wife's probably holding it down, right? Right. But even the dog, like, how did you... Even the dog. You're right? Like, how did you balance that even on good or bad days after a game? Or, like, let's say you're tired. Like, how did that?

word. Well, fortunately, we have a two-year-old. She just turned two last week. We didn't have her. Like, I, fortunately, I wasn't playing when we had her. So honestly, I think knowing that, knowing what fatherhood and parenting entails now, I have no clue, like, how the boys did it. Or just being away and stuff. And then coming back and your wife's, your wife's holding the fort down and just the parenting, the partnering that we kind of do with each other with, with Rue, you're thinking, man, if she had to do all of this solo, that would be tough. So, Honestly, like... Shout out significant others.

Yeah, shout at significant others. But my advice would be, honestly, now that I'm on the other side, because it's hard for us because we're... Everybody's selfish. But I feel like our ambitions really take over on like, hey, I'm trying to get here. I'm trying to be the best in the game. None of...

That doesn't mean that the person at home or who you go home to isn't trying to be the best of what they do. So when you come home, it's not bringing your work home and everything else with it. Like, hey, I had a bad day. Can I just get a minute? And I would personally, I would say like you're sitting down with your wife, significant other, whatever it is, and you kind of plan out what your priorities are. Like if you're somebody who needs an hour, have that expectation set before it happens.

That way you're not in a reactive state coming home, right? So that would kind of be my advice because there really is no, like Coach Laining was talking about when he was sitting down. But there really isn't no such thing as like work-life balance. It's like prioritized. Especially in football, right? Right, especially in football. But it's prioritized. And then when that priority comes, you got to pour into it.

So if it's being a husband when you come home, if it's being a dad when you come home, and you know that's the expectation, then it's like you've got to figure out a way to compartmentalize and learn that you're leaving everything else outside the door whenever you get home. That'd be my game for you, bro. And then, sorry, I got another one. We're just firing off. This is great. So let's say for young high school guys coming up, right?

Because I always get this question, but I'm like, I feel like NFL guys could answer this even better because you had it, let's say, at the highest pressure as well as probably the biggest marketing deals, I guess you could say. But high school guys coming into college, right? How do they manage like that side of things, right? The marketing agents while playing and be able to have a clear mind of like not mixing the two together, right? Because I feel like probably in your career you probably wore a bunch of hats, right? Like setting up yourself.

up for success post football? Absolutely. While playing the game, while having family, and trying to enjoy it all while staying level-headed, right? Yeah, man. So how did you, I guess, manage that as well, like the work side of it, you know, with all those relationships? Well, now it's like high school going into college. Like, that's a different animal. I was pre-N-I-L era. So fortunately, it was all ball and everything. Not that it's not all ball, but you guys are obviously, you guys are in a world now. that you're fast-tracking to be an adult. You're bringing in money that you would have never seen, nor maybe your family have never seen, right?

But what I'd say is even back when I was giving you the advice about, like, coming home and the work-life balance, and it all comes down to prioritizing. It's like you want to build the right team around you. You want to know who's in charge of what. That way you can free your mind of, okay, I want to focus on this. If this is stressing me out over here,

how can I have the right person in place to help me manage that stress? It's legitimately, it's all about prioritizing, pouring into those priorities, and learning to say no if things aren't within those priorities. It's like the power of saying no means you're saying yes to what you have prioritized to help, you know, because what I've learned about myself, like, you know, you don't want to let, I don't like letting people down. So you might say yes, or you might overcommit to things. Or it's like, hey, I am juggling this out here, but I don't necessarily have the help to help me out. it's like learning again man prioritizing and having the right team around you

so that way you can be optimal as a football player have you seen it like affect players like rookies coming in or like I know you say pre-annial because like I'm let's say a vet in college football yeah right I've seen it affect younger guys you know wherever I've been I feel like on the same level in the NFL like does has that been a

absolutely I guess a changing yeah you know like whether it's young guys, even guys who have had experience in the league, like you guys that'll stress about something. And in my mind or somebody else's mind, it might be like, man, if he would just do X, Y, and Z. But at that time when they're stressing and vent into, you're kind of just like trying to listen versus like, hey, you should do this. But legitimately, man, and yeah, for any high schoolers coming into college,

I know it's a different ball game, but I was talking to, I got to talk to Nebraska last week, and I was kind of telling them, like we've all seen the show 30 for 30 broke where 70 to 80% of NFL guys can be bankrupt within like three to five years we're talking about grown mature men with families that should have their head on straight right and you know you guys think you guys are just going to be an exception because of NIL like money and the same things can happen it's like if you don't take advantage of the opportunity you have sitting here to amass that like it's a privilege getting to have these deals and everything else but you know whether you're in a

quarterback or whether you get to be in a spot to have certain people around you, it's like letting those resources work for you and not against you. And feeling like, I feel like a lot of times guys might feel like they have their own answers or whoever at home might be telling him you should do X, Y, Z. I'm not saying those people at home are wrong. But maybe there are times where you can doubt the advice you're hearing and pour into maybe the advice you're getting from your school because ultimately the school has to adapt the same way that players are having to adapt. They need to pour into resources that help you get, that help set you guys up for life after football because there is an NIL world.

And you want to be, if you're at Oregon, you want to be a spot to where families come in and you have every resource set up to be like, hey, your kid's coming here. He's going to make probably a lot of money that the kid's seen, that the family's seen, and we have things in place that makes it more attractive to come. So they've got to be correct as well. So there's always another level to it rather than just money, right? Right. And like even like what you're saying about other people,

other voices. Like, that's real, too, like having good family members in your corner. Yeah. And I guess feeding you the right stuff because what you hear ends up becoming what you think and what you end up doing down the road. Like, I feel like that's real too of having good people in your life. 1,000%. Because in the NFL, right, like a lot of people are probably telling you how to do what

you should be doing, right? Everyone's got an idea for you. Or they got an investment. They got something. And I'm telling you, if you don't have the right group. around you or the right team or the right people in place. It's like, hey, I really appreciate this. This seems awesome. If you don't mind sharing this information, here's my guy's email. And if they follow up and do all the right due diligence, then it's handled through the business

advisor, right? And it's like, hey, I think this could be a good gig for you. This could be an opportunity for you. Hey, maybe it's not. But if you love it, then maybe we put a little bit here and there. But you have people giving you advice. And then ultimately it comes down to those people who are trying to pitch you stuff. If they respect you, then they're going to respect your process about it all. So again, it's like... Or if they really want to work with you, right? Exactly. They'll go through the... They'll go through the right protocol to do that,

especially if you're giving them the time of day. I appreciate those questions, man. That was... Well, I feel like, you know, you asked me a bunch of questions to know me, right? But I feel like there's so much to learn from you. And, you know, I don't get this opportunity a bunch. And I know we're doing it, you know, here.

But, no, I just appreciate that. You know, I think there's always something you can learn and that's what my whole two things are. It's like you're never too old or too young to lead, and you're never too young or too old to learn. So whatever it is. Absolutely. And it's one of those things, too.

It's like I hate seeing young athletes, like, not take advantage of the resources that are all around them. I mean, we have such a head start just being at a university. Like, I got to go to Nebraska. You're in Oregon right now, but be at the universities we've been at that have the resources to be successful because one day it all ends.

I know it. No matter what. I hope you could play 10, 15 years, but one day we... How was that day for you? It wasn't that difficult. I feel like I had about as smooth of a transition as I could have envisioned in my head. Like, did I want it to end? Did I want to continue to be able to play at high level or be seen?

It's like, okay, we'll give them an opportunity to be a starter. Like, I was at that point in my career, I was more of a backup special teams guy. And we started, fortunately started busting with the boys. So that ended up beginning to take off to where it made, it made like, hey, whenever the day the moment does come, like, it's all good because this is doing well. Thank God. Because the, in light, it was like year seven were, uh, I was like a backup. I didn't get to play a whole lot on the Titans. And I was like, fuck, I'm going to have to be on a 90-man roster again and make a 53 versus being a guy known, hey, this will be a steady piece on a roster.

I'm going to have to reinvent myself and make the team again. And I didn't necessarily, I was like overdoing that. And so fortunately, building Bussin has helped, you know, build it into a good outlet and it's helped me allow me to transition away from the game because a lot of guys they don't they just don't get a call again and they're training for it and then it doesn't happen and then if they if those guys i feel like we all know that one guy who's still training and we we know like there's no eligibility or you know what i mean not that's real i'm not being but i feel like everyone knows that guy that you're like gosh like you know what i mean like yeah absolutely or they're still taking opportunities to go play and and look i know there there's stories that

motivate everybody to allow them to make those choices. Like, hey, I'm going to go down to this league. Because you never know. You want tape. You want to get an opportunity. But when they do have to come to that harsh reality, a lot of guys didn't, you know, didn't fortunately, like, take advantage of the time that they had while they're in the league. It's like when you're in the NFL, like while you're an Oregon duck, I say it constantly.

Your jokes are funnier, you're better looking and you can shake more hands. And if you don't do those things. They're more interested, right? Yeah, yeah. And you're way more interesting. And if you don't take advantage of those things now to set yourself up for the curiosities you have outside of the game, the moment the game ends, it looks a little different. You look a little bit more desperate. And then you beat yourself up.

And then as men or athletes, like a lot of people do, you stay quiet about it. You don't talk about it. You're not vulnerable enough to share that, hey, you might be struggling. So it's like always one of those things like why I've appreciated these questions. You sit there and you hate to see athletes, like, you know, piss it away because they were so. obsessed with playing A or not be present in the moment and create relationships that are real. You know, like if you're going to be in the building with this coach, you know, like, enjoy that time together and get to know them because that relationship might go even further

to you having a job down the road or, you know, like nobody, I feel like in the moment thinks about that, right? We're thinking right now and I think that's what's hard for players too, right? Like, as players, everyone's telling us, focus on ball. You know, that's it. Like, that's all you should be worried about, right? But then when you're done with ball, they're like, what were you doing while you were playing ball? Yeah.

Yeah. So to me, it's like such a contradicting, like, thought. Like, how do we, you know, help one another out and, like, talk through it of, like, being able to have conversation and figure out, like, how do you focus on ball and still keep level headed while being able to plan and set yourself up, you know, for what it's done. But I think it's... Yeah, because, like you're saying, it's not like this poor me victimized mentality. like hey you feel sorry for athletes for doing this it's just like no it's just if you the individual had any idea the opportunity you had to know that we have this head start and you're not taking advantage of it like it's it ultimately becomes on you but it's like bro you have to pour into whether

it's relationships you brought that up and i was thinking we have a common connection james dobson was my strength and conditioning coach at Nebraska dover he's got the yeah he got the neck man that comes They tell you that I'm sure he preached to you guys the coffee bean story. Oh, dude. Be the coffee bean, not the hard-boiled egg or the carrot that gets soft in the boiling water. He said that. That's weird. Do you bring that out?

Be the coffee bean that sets the tone and makes the environment its own. He's the best, though. Bro. I mean, I was texting with him yesterday. I'm like, hey, Dylan Gabriel, like, you mind telling me some stuff about him? We hop on the phone. He had great things to say about you. But he's a relationship that I've kept since at Nebraska.

He was at Vanderbilt, and I was at Tennessee. and I was at Tennessee. I'm training there. I hated when he went to Oklahoma just because that was my guy to train me in the offseason. Is that the rivalry, too? Would you say back in Oklahoma, Nebraska? I mean, you weren't that far back. Yeah, I wasn't.

I wasn't back in like the 90s when it was like the Oklahoma Nebraska game and everyone salivated over it. It kind of switched around because I played both the Big 12 and the Big Ten. So it kind of maneuvered right now. Nebraska is special, by the way. I played there. That place is crazy. Thank you, man.

Did Nebraska try getting you out of the portal? When Coach Frost was there, yes. Really? Yes. Because when we were talking with Coach Rule, he had brought your name up. So I'm thinking of my head, like, oh, I wonder if they were in the running at all for you. Gosh, no. I should, I didn't hear from him.

Fuck, Coach. No, it's crazy, though. But, like, I remember the first third down there. Dude, loudest. I mean, and I've played in some environments, which it's probably, probably up there with the OU Texas game, but like that first they're down, like, I remember seeing, like, looking at my receiver in the eyes and he's like this, like, you know, like, oh my gosh.

It's all that's saying is like, you're yelling and you can't even hear yourself yelling. Dude, and like, it's just, I think the craziest stadiums are when you can't see out of it. That to me is like, you're in it, you know? Like, I don't know, I don't want to say like the old Coliseum days or like, you know, battle or whatever. But, like, when you can't see out, it's like, bro, you're in this. this bitch. You know, like, you better come ready to play. Yeah, man. So I remember that that first drive, they ended up seven, like going up seven zero. And we had the first drive. We ended up

three now, but, uh, dude, it was unreal. Did you beat us? You ended up beating us? You ended up beating us? Yeah, we did. I know. I just didn't know. I had no clue. Which, which, when you were with UCF? Uh, Oklahoma. Oklahoma last year? The year before. Oh, shit. It's a killer atmosphere. The best three-win team of all time. Say that one more time? Right?

That was two years ago. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we were the, it's on. Yes. Oh, no, that was the year before. That was at OU? That was at OU the year before. Okay, okay.

It was what? It was like, it got out of hand. I was going to say in the first quarter, it was like maybe 14 all? And then you guys just went out 30 unanswered? They were upset. 7-0. That's right.

We had you guys in the sites. It, like, oh, that's good. But. Yeah, I, that's right. Okay, so I want to bring this up. Okay. Because I hope somebody adopts this idea. I think, you know, we're talking about college football, right?

Yeah. I think you get 40 of the biggest logos. They don't have to be good right now, but the biggest logos, the most donors, and the biggest. atmospheres. So you can put that all together. Whatever, I don't want to say any names because, you know, but you can imagine that, right? The bottom five every year goes down to play with the, let's say the second division. The top five of that goes back up. So it's ever changing, right? Like, you got to, you want to be up there. You got to stay up there, right? You play, let's say,

with the 40 teams, you get 10 games. It all alternates. That goes to a seating, like, a March Madness. I don't want to do the math. I don't want to butcher it, but that's probably five games, 15 games to get to the national championship. Yeah, you'd have to go to like break it down 32 teams in a bracket. Yeah, let's say, okay, because the bottom five and three or whatever. Yeah, the bottom eight could potentially go down. So you could do a March Madness and have the biggest atmosphere as you're playing coast to coast. And it doesn't affect other sports. So you can still have your, you know, but that football league is like the big, like the big 40, let's say. And now you can play.

I mean, wouldn't that be cool? Wouldn't that be cool? Bottom eight, kind of like an NIT tournament. And you can still win, right? Because there's some merit to like, what if, you know, a lower level school gets in that top five and they killed it that year, then they can come up for the year. You know, they earned it, right? And I don't know. I thought it would be dope.

You know, I thought, like, imagine if you could play coast to coast and play all the great atmospheres. Like, big noon kickoffs every week, dude. You know, like, what if we could have five big noon kickoffs? You're thinking big. I'm just saying, like, everyone, players want it, coaches want it, fans want it. Everyone wants the big atmosphere, so why not recreate it? Whatever the NCAA kind of folds at some point to create some of these super conferences, I'm sure the TV money and everything else, they'll try to come up with something as entertaining for that dollar amount.

For sure. It'll have to be a, you think it'll go under rev sharing and all that kind of thing? think so I think so I don't see why not right now you guys are in such a situation where it could be free agency every day I know so you guys are in an advantage which is which is great but it is great as far as like you know how it's going to continue to evolve like yeah they're going to want to come for something yeah be a union there'll be something you guys have a union yet we don't not yet we don't I bet that's that'll be maybe coach saving can bring it together you know yeah Maybe he's got it.

Yeah. Bro, I appreciate this conversation. Of course. Thank you. You came with questions, too. I did. Gosh, I had to. What's your Instagram?

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